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Talk:Victory (G1)

2009-07-09T01:59:48Z

69.250.42.72: /* Name of the Decepticon space cruiser */

The nature of this article kinda bugs me. Is there a reason we're putting information about the Decepticon base under a "name" (more a description, really) that was used in only 3 episodes, rather than under the proper title (Decepticon Headquarters) that was used throughout the rest of the series? Seems to me this article ought to cover what happened to the space ship up until its crash; after that, it became part of Decepticon HQ. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 21:44, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
*We did have a separate articles for the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] and [[Autobot Headquarters]], which was merged into Ark. I have a feeling that is also what would happen if we split these articles. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 21:58, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
::I was involved in that, heh. The difference is that the Ark appears in numerous continuities, with the cartoon version obviously being one of several iterations of it; by contrast the "Decepticon space cruiser" only exists in the cartoon. Also the cartoon shows clearly that the cruiser is only a small part of Decep HQ, which IIRC is a whole complex of buildings; that base/ship distinction is a lot less clear with Autobot HQ. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 22:10, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

:IIRC, we're using the appellation 'Decepticon Space Cruiser' to distinguish ''this'' cruiser from the Nemesis. However-- in ''multiple'' continuities, the Undersea Decepticon Headquarters ''is'' the Nemesis, not this unrelated 2nd spacecruiser.
:I'd like to see this article split between [[Decepticon space cruiser]] and [[Undersea Decepticon Headquarters]]. Both the DSC and nemesis article can point 'into' the Undersea HQ article, as relevant. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:52, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

::When did they use ''Nemesis'' as an undersea base? I don't recall this but I could easily be forgetting something from Dreamwave or whoever.
::If we make UDH, it begs the question of what to do with the [[Decepticon headquarters]] page, which is already a bit scattered and maybe in need of splitting up. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 23:19, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Beast Wars had the Nemesis underwater. Dreamwave saw this, and failed to notice that Beast Wars ''also'' had the Nemesis crashing at its final resting place where it would be pillaged for technology by Megatron as shown in the g1 cartoon. Dreamwave then decided to have the Nemesis still underwater. Yay Pat Lee.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 23:30, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

== Name of the Decepticon space cruiser ==

According to Disciples of Boltax, on his June 30th entry this ship/underwater base has a name. [http://boltax.blogspot.com/2009/06/complete-ark-and-allspark-almanac-thats.html] The Complete Ark has an entry on it, where it is called ironically the Victory. Even a pic with caption telling you. [http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_iKLevhkVaMo/SkpJVTLfYzI/AAAAAAAAAfs/l58yDLwKObY/s1600-h/Decepticon+Headquarters.jpg] [[Special:Contributions/69.250.42.72|69.250.42.72]] 14:57, 8 July 2009 (EDT)
:Good find. I guess it has a name. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:22, 8 July 2009 (EDT)
::Yup, let us hope that the powers that be edit the profile with its proper name, like they did with TFA's Slipstream. [[Special:Contributions/69.250.42.72|69.250.42.72]] 21:59, 8 July 2009 (EDT)

Talk:Victory (G1)

2009-07-08T18:57:43Z

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Talk:Victory (G1)

2009-07-08T18:56:31Z

69.250.42.72: /* Name of the Decepticon space cruiser */ new section

Grand Plan

2009-07-05T15:39:09Z

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[[Primus]]' '''Grand Plan''' is a broad roadmap to [[Multiverse|all creation that]], if successful, will ensure him victory over [[Unicron]].

The Plan was formed in the earliest days of his conflict with Unicron, before Cybertron existed, and extends into the future of the [[Beast Era]] and beyond.

{{bigquote|The framework of Primus' Grand Plan was an intricate and complex blueprint of possibilities and outcome, an evolving structure that needed the occasional delicate tweak to keep it viable.|[[Herald, Covenant, Schism, Paradox|Reaching the Omega Point: Covenant]], 1999}}

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[[Category:Primus]]