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		<title>Scavenger (G1)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;{{Disambig3|Scavenger}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Scavenger is a [[Decepticon]] [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicon]] in the [[Generation 1]] continuity family.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ScavengerG1.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Pooper-scooper butt action!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;C&#039;mon guys, wait up...&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; You can&#039;t help but feel sorry for &#039;&#039;&#039;Scavenger&#039;&#039;&#039;. He wants so badly to be liked and needed, to feel like a useful and valuable member of his team. His self esteem is so low he&#039;d do just about anything to get the approval of the others, but his simpering, doting eagerness to please just reinforces the other Decepticons&#039; opinion of him as a worthless loser. He&#039;s constantly excavating everywhere he goes in the attempt to find something of worth to please everyone and prove his value, but it&#039;s invariably just some piece of garbage or scrap he excitedly finds, and that just reinforces their opinion of his worthlessness once again. If it wasn&#039;t for his shovel&#039;s unique ability to detect needed materials, [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] and the others would likely have dumped the poor scrub long ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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Scavenger combines with his fellow Constructicons to form [[Devastator]], where he serves the useful function of right arm.&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Italian name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Braccio&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;French-Canadian name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Excavo&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Hungarian name:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Dögevő&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Marvel Comics continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
====Generation 1====&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Note: Events in italics are from UK-exclusive stories.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;(Additional note: In the Constructicons&#039; origin story, Scavenger seems to be in charge, even though [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]] is technically Constructicon Leader.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Constructiconsbornmarvel.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Scavenger is the green and purple one.]]Early in the Transformers&#039; war on [[Earth]], [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] used the stolen power of the [[Creation Matrix]] to give life to the first of a new generation of Decepticon warriors, the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicon]]s.  Scavenger and his Constructicons were immediately given a mission upon their coming online: Construct a communications tower to transmit a message to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].  A truck stop was raided for raw materials, which attracted the ire of trucker [[Bomber Bill]], who, with the aid of the [[Autobot]]s, managed to destroy the tower Scavenger and the other Constructicons had built.  {{storylink|The Next Best Thing to Being There!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Scavenger and the Constructicons, after troubleshooting their union as [[Devastator]], were sent by Shockwave to abduct [[Buster Witwicky]].  Their attack was called off to regroup when [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] discovered Buster held the rest of the Creation Matrix in his head.  {{storylink|Devastation Derby!}}&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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After [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron&#039;s]] retaking of Decepticon command, Scavenger and the other Constructicons were charged with building perimeter defenses around their headquarters located at the base of a coal strip mine in eastern [[Wyoming]].  Devastator&#039;s services were again required when the Autobots staged a surprise attack, but they retreated once they had what they needed. {{storylink|Command Performances!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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During [[Ratbat]]&#039;s command, an attack was ordered on the combined Autobot forces on Earth&#039;s [[moon (moon)|moon]] while [[Blaster]] and [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] dueled for leadership.  Under cover of battle, Scavenger and the other Constructicons retrieved the remains of several fallen and captured Decepticons. {{storylink|Totaled!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;(Note: The following two sections both split off from the end of the Generation 1 comic, but in different, irreconcilable directions.)&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Generation 2====&lt;br /&gt;
Scavenger was seen on board the [[Warworld]] among the Decepticons rallied by [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] against [[Jhiaxus]]&#039;s [[Cybertronian Empire]].  {{storylink|New Dawn}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====Classics====&lt;br /&gt;
{{coming soon|fanclub}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Animated continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Don Messick]] (US), [[Takurō Kitagawa]] (Japan)&lt;br /&gt;
Scavenger is the only person to kill another Cybertronian—[[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]—with a single shot. And he &#039;&#039;still&#039;&#039; gets no respect.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Dreamwave comics continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Generation 1===&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Scavenger&#039;&#039;&#039; (1985)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Team ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;2&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;35&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Constructicon&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
: This European-exclusive version of Scavenger was yellow, but with the darker purple from the original toy instead of the lighter Generation 2 shade, came with no Devastator parts, and also lacked the tab on his chest. This toy was also not officially named, as he came on a card shared by the other Constructicons.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Generation 2===&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Scavenger&#039;&#039;&#039; (Yellow, 1993)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Scavenger&#039;&#039;&#039; (Orange, 1993)&lt;br /&gt;
: This release was a KB-Toys [[exclusive]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Classics===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Constructicon Devastator&#039;&#039;&#039; (Multi-pack, 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Scavenger is one of the toys included in this gift pack, a [[redeco]] of &#039;&#039;[[Energon (franchise)|Energon]]&#039;&#039; [[Steamhammer (Energon)|Steamhammer]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
*Scavenger&#039;s animation model gives him Hook&#039;s pistol.  Hook&#039;s animation model uses a different take on Hook&#039;s pistol, so Scavenger&#039;s gun design seems to go unused.&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.tfu.info/1985/Decepticon/Scavenger/scavenger.htm Scavenger at TFU.info]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&amp;amp;char=Scavenger Scavenger&#039;s Universe profile at NTFA.net]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Barrage</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;69.255.229.3: Redirecting to Barrage (Insecticon)&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;#REDIRECT [[Barrage (Insecticon)]]&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Swoop (G1)</title>
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		<updated>2007-12-12T03:27:57Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;69.255.229.3: /* Trivia */ Added Sludge.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{disambig3|Swoop}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Swoop is a [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]] and [[Autobot]] in the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]]. He used to go by the name &#039;&#039;&#039;Divebomb&#039;&#039;&#039; and might someday call himself&#039;&#039;&#039;The Veteran&#039;&#039;&#039;.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:SwoopUniverse1.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Ugly, yes, but he has a &#039;&#039;great&#039;&#039; personality.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Swoop&#039;&#039;&#039; is the friendliest and most outgoing of the Dinobots. He&#039;s surprisingly good natured, kind, and upbeat. Few of his comrades realize this however, as his team&#039;s reputation and his alt-form, considered (for some reason) particularly &amp;quot;horrifying&amp;quot; to Transformer aesthetics, makes others wary of getting close enought to learn about the bot himself. Swoop is an excellent aerial combatant and bombardier, and has become skilled at using the fear his alt-mode creates in battle. He considers it his greatest weapon. Like all the Dinobots, Swoop tends to be arrogant, disobedient, and generally disagree with [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]&#039;s leadership style. He&#039;s also a bit of a show-off. &lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;French-Canadian name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Assailo&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Italian name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Reptilo&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Preliminary name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Wing&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fiction ==&lt;br /&gt;
===Marvel Comics continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
====Generation 1====&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;(Note: Events from UK-only stories are in italics.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;On Cybertron, Swoop was once a member of the Autobots&#039; [[Elite Flying Corps]] and named Divebomb. After disobeying orders from [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] he came into battle with the Predacon now called [[Divebomb (G1)|Divebomb]], who defeated him and stole his name. {{storylink|What&#039;s in a Name?}} This began a continuing rivalry between the two. Millions of years later on Earth they clashed again intending to finish things between them once and for all, but their respective team mates interfered and the battle went unresolved. {{storylink|Grudge Match!}}&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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Swoop was one of the original crew of the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]]. After it crashed, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] came to Earth in pursuit and landed in the [[Savage Land]]. The Ark rebuilt Swoop along with Grimlock, Slag, Sludge and Snarl into the Dinobots and sent them to the Savage Land to defeat Shockwave. {{storylink|The Last Stand}} The battle ended with the Dinobots submerged in a tar pit where they remained until they were dug out by Ratchet millions of years later. Swoop along with the other Dinobots then helped [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] defeat [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] and reclaim the Ark and free the deactivated Autobots within. {{storylink|Repeat Performance!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Swoopg1marvelukfirst.jpg|thumb|left|250px| Swoop intends to be the first to get his hands on a Playstation 3! ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Upon their return to the Ark however Swoop was badly damaged and thought destroyed when he attempted to fly the booby trapped battle droid [[Guardian]] away from the Ark to prevent the explosion from destroying [[Mount St. Hilary]]. {{storylink|The Wrath of Grimlock!}}&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;In reality he was blown clear and crashed into a nearby lake where he was later found by [[Professor Morris]]. The professor had developed a machine capable of transferring his consciousness to a robot allowing him to take control of it. He recovered Swoop’s body and used the machine to take control of him. He used Swoop to attack the Autobots who he had mistakenly assumed were under the control of his company’s competitor [[G.B. Blackrock]]. Swoop’s personality eventually broke free of the professor’s control however. {{storylink|The Icarus Theory}}&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Not long after this he went mad due to the burning out of his cybodendrons after being submerged in the tar pit for millions of years. He was subdued and went into a coma like state. This alerted the Autobots the danger that the other Dinobots were in and they set out to find them. {{storylink|Dinobot Hunt!}}&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Swoop later recovered from his coma along with the other Dinobots. {{storylink|Second Generation!}} He and the other Dinobots left the Ark shortly afterwards to help Sludge save his friend Joy Meadows from both the Decepticons and Swoop’s former tormentor Professor Morris and his new robot [[Centurion (Marvel)|Centurion]], funded by [[Intelligence and Information Institute|Triple-I]]. {{storylink|In the National Interest}}&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Swoop would later battle the future Decepticon Galvatron, being severely beaten in the process. {{storylink|Fallen Angel}}&#039;&#039; After the death of Optimus Prime, Swoop helped to battle [[Trypticon]] who had been sent from Cybertron by [[Ratbat]] to attack the Ark. Having driven Trypticon away Swoop and the Dinobots returned to the Ark where Grimlock was declared Autobot leader. {{storylink|King of the Hill!}} &lt;br /&gt;
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Following the return of Optimus Prime as Autobot leader, Swoop and the other Dinobots were critically damaged by the [[Underbase]]-powered [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. After being repaired by Ratchet using [[Pretender]] technology, Grimlock took Swoop and the Dinobots to [[Hydrus 4]] and restored them using [[Nucleon]]. This ultimately caused Grimlock to lose the ability to transform but it is not know if Swoop suffered any similar side effects. {{storylink|The Price of Life!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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At some point Swoop was sent to Earth to become part of the [[Earthforce]] team under the command of Grimlock. He later returned to Cybertron and took part in the battle against [[Unicron]] which he survived. {{storylink|On the Edge of Extinction!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====Generation 2====&lt;br /&gt;
Swoop took part in the war against [[Jhiaxus]] and his [[Cybertronian Empire]].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Classics====&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Spoiler}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After the defeat of Bludgeon&#039;s forces, the already nucleon infused Swoop was caught in a titanic explosion at a nucleon-processing plant and was drastically mutated. The quick reaction of the Autobot minicons saved him and boom Minicon Swoop was born. You would think a Dinobot would dislike being given such a small form, but Swoop is just as powerful as he ever was (if not more) and is now MUCH FASTER and more precise. These augmented abilities are enough to make him quite satisfied with this state of affairs. &lt;br /&gt;
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Swoop is part of Grimlock&#039;s crew on the &#039;&#039;[[Graviton (Classics)|Graviton]]&#039;&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;(&#039;&#039;&#039;Note&#039;&#039;&#039;: The &#039;&#039;[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]&#039;&#039; story takes place in a post-Marvel Generation 1 comics universe where neither [[Generation 2]] nor the Marvel UK material happened.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Animated continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039;&#039; [[Michael Bell]] (US), [[Yoku Shioya]] (Japan)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Swoop.gif|thumb|250px|&amp;quot;Me, Swoop, glad me not have stomach to leave.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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While guarding a mysterious meteorite, the original Dinobots, Grimlock, Slag and Sludge, were fooled by Megatron into joining the side of the Decepticons. To counter the threat of their former comrades, the Autobots constructed two new Dinobots; Snarl and Swoop. Snarl and Swoop did battle with the original Dinobots but were only strong enough to force them into a stalemate.  The original Dinobots chose to return to the Autobots after their leader, Grimlock, was saved from the exploding meteorite through a selfless act of heroism from Optimus Prime. {{storylink|War of the Dinobots}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Swoop was rarely seen apart from the other Dinobots. Together, they fought the likes of [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] {{storylink|Heavy Metal War}} and moved to a bizarre island (later dubbed [[Dinobot Island]]) to hone their skills. {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 1}} {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Some time after that, the Dinobots chose to desert the Autobots during their time of need (the Autobots were dying from lack of [[Cybertonium]]) and go to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparkplug]], [[Spike Witwicky|Spike]], and [[Carly]] sought out the Dinobots to convince them to help, but Grimlock, angered that they had been followed, decided to crush them. Swoop, however, saved them, wanting to hear the &amp;quot;brilliant part&amp;quot; from the humans. Grimlock was convinced to go, but instead led the Dinobots to Cybertron itself {{storylink|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 1}}.  All the Dinobots were captured by [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]], reprogrammed and forced to work in the cybertonium mines at the planet&#039;s organic core.  All, that is, except for Swoop. Swoop soon encountered Spike and Carly, the Autobots&#039; human allies, deep within the bowels of the planet. The three teamed up and, after learning a brief history of the Transformer race, freed the Dinobots and returned to [[Earth]] with a shipment of Cybertonium. {{storylink|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2005, Swoop and the other Dinobots fought Devastator during the battle of [[Autobot City]].  They didn&#039;t fair too well.  They later evacuated the city (reluctantly) when [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] attacked.  Swoop and the Dinobots became briefly stranded on [[Quintessa]] along with [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] and [[Kup]] when their ship was shot down.  With help from [[Wheelie]], the Dinobots found their friends, with Swoop using [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticon]]s as bombs. The Autobots escaped Quintessa and rescued the remaining Autobots on the [[Junkion (planet)|Planet of Junk]] from a horde of confused [[Junkion]]s.  Later, Swoop did one of his greatest life accomplishments when he bombed the butt of [[Unicron|a god]]. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie|TFTM}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In the year 2006, Swoop and the other Dinobots spent much of their time on Cybertron fishing for robot fish (or organic fish, depending on which shot you&#039;re looking at). Swoop and the others briefly ostracized Grimlock when he attained super intelligence.  Grimlock eventually returned to normal and was welcomed back among their ranks.  Swoop and the Dinobots were also summoned by [[Oracle (G1)|Primacron&#039;s Assistant]] to do battle with [[Tornadron]], a creation of the villainous [[Primacron]].  Swoop failed to defeat the enrgy monster, but Grimlock managed to save the day just in the nick of time. {{storylink|Call of the Primitives}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Big Looker storybooks===&lt;br /&gt;
During an incomprehensibly heavy-handed Decepticon plot to steal a single fuel tanker, the Autobots - also oddly determined to protect this single tanker - found themselves outnumbered and outgunned.  Swoop, still recovering from a previous battle, arrived to assist, and was fired on by Megatron.  This so enraged the mild-mannered Autobot that he dropped an air-to-air missile launcher with the power of 5000 pounds of TNT.  Swoop comes across as uncharistically modest, and grateful just to be able to help Prime and pals.  Also, Swoop has hair. {{storylink|Decepticon Hijack}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Dreamwave continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
Swoop was an Autobot once named Divebomb, though the circumstances sorrounding his name change are unspecified. When Optimus Prime and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] disappeared, Swoop joined Grimlock&#039;s [[Lightning Strike Coalition]]. When Grimlock took the future Dinobots to execute [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] and Shockwave, Swoop argued that they should instead focus on [[Trypticon|the new battle base]] the Decepticons had built. Once the base was called away to rescue Shockwave, Swoop told him to come back and fight, then called him a coward (once the base was already leaving). Heading to the [[Neutral Territories]], they found no sign of Grimlock or Jetfire. Tracking Shockwave down, the LSC worked with the Decepticons to locate their missing members. {{storylink|The War Within: The Dark Ages}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===3H comic continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
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In a distant future of the [[Beast Wars]] timeline, the dark warlord known as [[Shokaract]] had conquered Cybertron and much of the galaxy.  Only a handful of Maximals and Predacons survived to oppose him, under the command of the Predacon [[Sandstorm (BW)|Sandstorm]].  Among them was an ancient warrior known simply as The Veteran.   Reflecting on his long history and all his many departed comrades, the Veteran began to wonder if he had survived so long as to become a &#039;&#039;figurative&#039;&#039; dinosaur.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Veteran&#039;s finely honed skills and instincts allowed him to survive an assassination attempt by The Cub, one of Shokaract&#039;s servants.  Returning in defeat, The Cub was severely wounded as punishment for his failure and left to die in the wilds of Cybertron.  Before he could perish, however, Sandstorm&#039;s band of rebels recovered him.  In an attempt to learn more about Shokaract&#039;s plans, The Veteran merged his Spark with that of The Cub, and thus was born  the dual-Sparked [[Windrazor (BW)|Windrazor]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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Though Windrazor was essentially a new being, within him the Sparks of The Veteran and The Cub continued to grapple for control and dominance of their joined form.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Veteran also appears in Simon Furman&#039;s psudo-cannonical story &#039;The Last Days Of Optimus Prime&#039; and is depicted, in shadowy form, as having a pterosaur-like silhouette .&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039; Though never named specifically, it is strongly implied that the Veteran is Swoop.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Generation 1===&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Swoop&#039;&#039;&#039; (Dinobot, 1985/1986/1991/1992)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;30&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Swoop&#039;s transforms into a robotic pteranodon. Along with his sword, he also comes with two spring-loaded missile launchers, the only Dinobot to have two projectile-launchers (and no non-firing gun to boot.) His beak and tail were rounded [[for safety reasons]]. However, the remolding of the tail kept the tail sticker from fitting correctly.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: In Japan, Swoop and the other Dinobots were offered as mail-away items during &#039;&#039;[[Operation Combination]]&#039;&#039;. Swoop cost 1800 yen (his original retail price, less than the other four) and two [[robot points]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Classics===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Dinobots&#039;&#039;&#039; (Mini-Con Team, 2006)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Swoop transforms into a robotic pteranodon.  His jointing allows him to stand on his hind-feet as well as assume a normal &amp;quot;flying&amp;quot; position.  He was only available in a Mini-Con Team set with [[Knockdown (Classics)|Knockdown]] and [[Terrorsaur (Classics)|Terrorsaur]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: This mold was also used to make [[Reptix]].&lt;br /&gt;
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{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* Swoop was originally a &#039;&#039;[[Diaclone]]&#039;&#039; Dinosaur Robo Pteranodon type piloted mech.  Whoever made Swoop&#039;s animation model used this &#039;&#039;Diaclone&#039;&#039; toy as a reference, as the Dinobot sports the pre-Transformer&#039;s blue chest, and gold lower beak, missiles, and dino feet. Swoop&#039;s box art has the Transformer toy&#039;s red chest, but keeps the gold parts from the Diaclone toy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* This &#039;&#039;Diaclone&#039;&#039; incarnation of Swoop was also used as the model for the &amp;quot;restored&amp;quot; version of the Autobot [[Ravenus]] in the &#039;&#039;[[Armada|Micron Legend]]&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;[[Linkage (comic)|Linkage]]&amp;quot; mini-comics.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Thanks to the &#039;&#039;[[Robo-Capers]]&#039;&#039; strip in the UK Comic, Swoop became the first and possibly only Transformer to defecate in a licensed and approved presentation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Swoop iconic.jpg|thumb|100px|right|New &amp;quot;Wildberry&amp;quot; Swoop is two, two, two flavors in one! ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Swoop and Sludge&#039;s absence from &#039;&#039;Generation 2&#039;&#039; has never been fully explained, though rumors of what might have been persist. Recently, packaging art of both in new colors was unearthed, indicating what he &#039;&#039;might&#039;&#039; have looked like in the line.  This art surfaced alongside a screaming yellow and turquoise Grimlock, so it is possible that the three were at one time planned for a second wave of Dinobots.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* The &#039;&#039;[[Energon (franchise)|Energon]]&#039;&#039; [[Swoop (Energon)|Swoop]] toy was originally intended to be the original Generation 1 character, and was to be released in &#039;&#039;[[Universe]]&#039;&#039;.  However, it was ultimately shunted into &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039;, reportedly for a combination of budgetary concerns and keeping the combination gimmick (since he combines with the packed-in [[Grimlock (Energon)|Grimlock]] to form a [[Mega-Dinobot|super robot]]) only in the main-line, which had combination as a central theme.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Swoop is the only original Dinobot who is not technically a dinosaur.  Following in his foot-steps are [[Terranotron (BM)|Terranotron]], [[Sludge (Dinobots)|Wal*Mart Sludge]], [[Paddles]], and two-thirds of [[Magmatron]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* There are numerous [[paint application]] differences between the Classics Swoop pictured on the cardback and the final product.  One possibility is that since the molds were originally intended to be in two-packs rather than three-packs, the number of available paint applications (which are carefully monitored) per piece was larger in the two-pack arrangement, necessitating some omissions for the three-pack release.&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://tfu.info/1985/Autobot/Swoop/swoop.htm Swoop at TFU.info]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.diaclone.net/orid/diadino/d090.html &#039;&#039;Diaclone&#039;&#039; Swoop at DIACLONE.net (Japanese-language site)]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category: Autobots]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Classics characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Combiners]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Dinobots]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Generation 1 characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Headmasters characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Mini-Cons]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Primitives]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Timelines characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Unreleased toys]]&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Sixbuilder&amp;diff=77658</id>
		<title>Sixbuilder</title>
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		<updated>2007-11-19T05:25:22Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;69.255.229.3: /* External links */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;Sixbuilder is a [[Micromaster]]-composed super robot from the [[Operation Combination]] and [[Micromaster Collection]] portions of the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The combined form of the Build Team, &#039;&#039;&#039;Sixbuilder&#039;&#039;&#039; fights alongside the [[Guard City]] team and other Micromasters to protect the [[Earth]] from the forces of the mighty [[Decepticon]] führer [[Scrash]].&lt;br /&gt;
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In an alternate timeline/universe, Sixbuilder has blended into [[human]] society along with the other Micromasters, and fights against the evil Decepticon Micromasters when they threaten cities.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sixbuilder&#039;s component robots are...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Crush-Bull]] the bulldozer and team leader.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Digger]] the excavator.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Gran Arm]] the front-end loader.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Iron Lift]] the crane.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Mixing]] the cement mixer.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Treader]] the dump truck.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===Operation Combination story pages===&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Micromaster Collection&#039;&#039; story===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:sixbuilders.jpg|thumb|right|Mirror, mirror, on the wall...]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In the Micromaster Collection timeline, Sixbuilder has an evil Decepticon counterpart.  Upon meeting Sixbuilder, [[Destron Sixbuilder]] claimed to be the result of the original Sixbuilder Team being somehow split apart into two complete sets; one developed as a team of Autobots, the other as six Decepticons.  He intends to recombine with the Autobot Sixbuilder someday, after all other Autobots have been destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Operation Combination===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Sixbuilder&#039;&#039;&#039; (Micromaster Sixteam, 1992)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;TF-01&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: The original version Sixbuilder was available only as a complete gift set in Japan. His component robots can be swapped around with the other similarly-built Six-Teams [[Sixturbo]] or [[Sixwing]], and to some degree with [[Sixliner]] and [[Sixtrain]]. His combiner [[kibble]] can be assembled to make a jet that can be piloted by a single Micromaster. The original Six-Teams are considered among the more difficult Japanese Generation 1 pieces to find.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Micromaster Collection===&lt;br /&gt;
: In 2002, the entire Sixbuilder team was re-released as part of the &#039;&#039;Micromaster Collection&#039;&#039;, in individual boxes with a number visible to show which mold was inside each box.  For this release, all of the decals from the original version were replaced with [[paint application]]s.  In addition, the plastic colors of all six components were changed, although the combiner kibble was left in its original colors.  Sixbuilder could only be assembled by buying all six components individually; he was never offered as a complete set. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: This version of the team was used to make &#039;&#039;[[Universe]]&#039;&#039; [[Micromaster]] [[Constructicon Devastator (Micromaster)|Constructicon Devastator]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: In every case of twelve Build Team Micromasters, two of them were solid-green-plastic Decepticon-allied variations. All six Micromasters were available in this manner, and could be combined into [[Destron Sixbuilder]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.tfu.info/1992/Cybertron/Sixbuilder/sixbuilder.htm Sixbuilder at TFU.info]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category: Autobots]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Combined forms]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Micromaster Collection]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Roadblock&amp;diff=161611</id>
		<title>Roadblock</title>
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		<updated>2007-11-18T16:46:18Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;69.255.229.3: Redirecting to Roadblock (disambiguation)&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;#REDIRECT [[Roadblock (disambiguation)]]&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Female_Autobots&amp;diff=53944</id>
		<title>Female Autobots</title>
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		<updated>2007-09-15T14:45:46Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;69.255.229.3: Arcee was never part of this team, right?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;The Female Autobots are a group of [[Female Transformers |female Transformers]] led by [[Elita One (G1)|Elita One]] in the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Femaleautobots.jpg|thumb|250px|Amazon Autobots on Beta Moon?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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They stole [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave&#039;s]] cookies for four million years and he never noticed. He&#039;ll be lucky if all [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] does is rip him a new one.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Female Autobots? I thought they were extinct.|[[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]|[[The Search for Alpha Trion]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;(&#039;&#039;&#039;Note&#039;&#039;&#039;: The name &#039;Female Autobots&#039; does not refer to this group in all continuities.  For instance: in [[Dreamwave]] continuity Elita One&#039;s group are warriors for the [[Quintesson]]s, not Autobots.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
==Members==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elita One (G1)|Elita One]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chromia (G1)|Chromia]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Firestar (G1)|Firestar]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Moonracer (G1)|Moonracer]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Female_Autobots#Green Female|Unnamed Green Female Autobot]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Female_Autobots#Orange Female|Unnamed Orange Female Autobot]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===American Animated Continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Female Autobots were believed destroyed by a missile strike during the [[Ark (G1)|Ark&#039;s]] launch 4 million years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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By 1985, they were the last active resistance on Cybertron, operating in secret.  [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] discovered their continued existance and tracked them back to their underground headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A subsequent attempt to capture Elita One resulted in a reunion with the Autobots of Earth, who believed the Female Autobots had perished long ago.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Female Autobots relocated to a new secret headquarters provided by [[Alpha Trion]].&lt;br /&gt;
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They are then never seen or spoken of again. Not even by [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Dreamwave Continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
Yadda-yadda, lesbian Quintesson love toys. The fanfiction has come to pass.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
==Unnamed Members==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Fa_scale.jpg|thumb|left|We aren&#039;t drawn very well.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The two unnamed female Autobots seem to serve a more support/defensive role, while Chromia leads a strike force out on raids.&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;(&#039;&#039;&#039;Note&#039;&#039;&#039;: While difficult to judge the relative size of these characters (since they are often foreshortened in the background,) the Green and Orange Female Autobots appear the smallest in the group. Or, the art is bad. Take your pick.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Femaleautobot green.jpg|thumb|Green Elf needs energon, badly!]]&lt;br /&gt;
===Green Female===&lt;br /&gt;
Seen manning a series of monitors in their original headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
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When trapped in their collapsed base, she appears more visibly defeated than any of her comrades. She transforms into a green Cybertronian car.&lt;br /&gt;
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She seems to mix less with the others.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Femaleautobot orange.jpg|thumb|left|Disco is dead.]]&lt;br /&gt;
===Orange Female===&lt;br /&gt;
The only member of Elita One&#039;s command &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; present in flashbacks to the Ark&#039;s Launch, she&#039;s seen performing maintenance in their original base.&lt;br /&gt;
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In contrast to her green comrade, she appears casual, even nonchalant while trapped in their ruined base.  She transforms into a orange and violet Cybertronian car.&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;(&#039;&#039;&#039;Note&#039;&#039;&#039;: The orange Female Autobot appears on the cover of the Club Udon special edition  cover to [[G.I. Joe vs. The Transformers]] volume 3 #2, but she is discolored like the green female.  Presumably one (or both) of them also exist in the Joe/TF continuity.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category: Generation 1]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Female Transformers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Nameless characters]]&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Scorponok_(G1)&amp;diff=64478</id>
		<title>Talk:Scorponok (G1)</title>
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		<updated>2007-08-15T05:07:04Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;Do you think Black Zarak should be considered a seperate character from Scorponok?  He did have a different consciousness than Scorponok (with Devil Z in his noggin and Scorponok serving as nothing more than a power battery wired into the chest).--[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 04:50, 6 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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no, because Scorponok is the little robot, and the big body is Megazarak/Black Zarak.  (Scorponok was generally known as Black Zarak in MF, because he was permenantly wired into his transector, and never emerged.)&lt;br /&gt;
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That he was posesses by Dark Nova is a null-issue.  He&#039;s not Dark NOva, he existed for 20 episodes prior as a seperate character. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 06:19, 7 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:You mean Devil Z, right? Dark Nova is from [[Battlestars]]. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] 19:54, 29 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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So, hey, what with the use of Japanese names for Headmasters? We normally refer to characters from Japanese fiction with their American names, don&#039;t we?  - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 18:46, 8 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: In this case, the Japanese character is being considered different from the English character, so we only have the Japanese names to go on.  We&#039;re not going to call Go Shuta or whoever &amp;quot;Siren.&amp;quot;  They&#039;re not the same guy, so it&#039;s a different case than, say, Stepper/Ricochet.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:51, 8 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Well, yeah. I guess what my question really was was &amp;quot;Why are we considering them different characters?&amp;quot; I&#039;ve been through this whole dealie before with the Headmasters DVD, and I can certainly see the logic in taking such an approach, but it&#039;s... are we going to create separate articles for Wipe and Skull, just because they have different names from their American counterparts? The differences that separate them from Mindwipe and Skullcruncher are no greater than those that separate Scorponok from MegaZarak. Of course, I&#039;m a giant hypocrit, since I wouldn&#039;t contest this in the case of Fortress, so... yes, I really don&#039;t know what my point is. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 19:04, 8 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think Wipe and Skull can have their own pages.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:18, 8 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I sorta see what you&#039;re getting at, Chris -- some of the Masterforce characters are really different from their different-name US couterparts, but some are pretty similar.  So... we *could* evaluate it case-by-case, but, I think that would just make things more confusing.  I&#039;m inclined to treat all the Masterforce guys as different characters than their US counterparts, even when they are actually similar, just for the sake of uniformity.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 19:25, 8 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::You mean Headmasters, right? But then, does that not technically mean we should be having articles like &amp;quot;Chromedome (US)&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Chromedome (Headmasters)&amp;quot;? Personally, I&#039;m more inclined to go the &#039;&#039;other&#039;&#039; way, and treat them as just being the same characters. If it&#039;s worth anything in the consideration, this &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; how it was done for the R2 Headmasters DVD. Um, except for Fortress. And that was mostly just based on the wordplay inherent in the name. Hence my hypocrisy. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 19:35, 8 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Personally, I think we should just keep the &amp;quot;Wipes&amp;quot; in the &amp;quot;Mindwipe&amp;quot; articles but under the Japanese fiction sections just refer to them by their Japanese names as a means to differentiate.  The US and Japanese characters are similar enough to warrant sharing space in one article and I don&#039;t think callig them by their Japanese names where appropriate would be too confusing to the readers (especially since there&#039;s a note at the beginning of each article listing the foreign names).&lt;br /&gt;
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But that&#039;s just my fitty cents, dawgs. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 21:42, 8 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Headmasters = Different takes on the same characters.&lt;br /&gt;
:Junior Headmasters &amp;amp; Powermasters = Different characters. -Derik23:35, 8 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Apologies if this debate was done to death elsewhere, but I think the Japanese stuff should really get its own article.  Scorpy&#039;s completely non-informative intro is as good a piece of evidence as anything.  Really, I see no difference at all between this and [[Ginrai]].  (For consistency&#039;s sake, we should probably apply the same treatment to the other J-Headmasters, but only because the extremity of characters like Zarak and Fortress called for it first.) - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 04:45, 15 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Ehh.  He&#039;s a Decepticon leader, he&#039;s something of an offworlder, he&#039;s at odds with the other Decepticon leader(s).  I&#039;m not seeing any difference here that wouldn&#039;t apply to the various G1 Shockwaves, and I think he has more in common with comics Scorponok than cartoon Scorponok does.  The only huge difference is that in Japan, Scorponok is a gold and purple dude with a Transtector that looks like US Scorponok. [[User:69.255.229.3|69.255.229.3]] 05:07, 15 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rorichi ? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Does &amp;quot;Rorichi&amp;quot; mean anything in Japanese? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 19:07, 28 March 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Roll-1&amp;quot;, maybe?  Just guessin&#039; here.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 06:46, 10 July 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Fandom&amp;diff=139204</id>
		<title>Talk:Fandom</title>
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&lt;div&gt;That IP address was me. I figured since you have this entry just &#039;&#039;dripping&#039;&#039; with snark including &amp;quot;Bayformers&amp;quot;, it should include the inexplicable fan belief that early G1 had more realistic representations of extraterrestrial robots, even though the toy engineers made them to look like the human-built piloted mecha they were in their original toy lines. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 18:30, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Oooh.  Your edit didn&#039;t say anything about extraterrestrials, so, I totally didn&#039;t know where you were going.  I personally prefer the line more brief, without bringing that part in, but, I don&#039;t feel real strongly about it.  If you put it back in I might edit the phrasing to make it more to my liking, though.  :)  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 19:07, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I &#039;&#039;know&#039;&#039; that someone from Hasbro (Whatshername, the exec who used to work for Power Rangers?) mentioned at some point that they estimate that X% of Transformers toys are bought by adult collectors- and I &#039;&#039;think&#039;&#039; it was 20.  That should probably be in here.&lt;br /&gt;
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I admit, I find the tone of this article unnecessarily harsh.  I&#039;d like to see it either moderated, or to have [[Fans]] and [[Fandom]] made two separate articles, with most of the negative aspects assigned to fandom.  (Which I think is a fair division of blame- you still hear stories of hardcore transfans who run into the occasional hardcore solo-fan who has no clue about the &#039;net, conventions etc.  The &#039;&#039;really&#039;&#039; nasty negative aspects of fans are almost all &#039;&#039;group behaviors&#039;&#039; that feed on themselves and doesn&#039;t exist in individuals if a fan is removed from fandom.)&lt;br /&gt;
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...oh my god, I just articulated a [[Wikipedia:Romanticism|romantacist]] belief in the fundamental goodness of humanity and the corrupting influence of society on individuals.  &#039;&#039;&#039;KILL ME NOW!  DO IT BEFORE I SPREAD PEACE AND LOVE ALL OVER THE WIKI!&#039;&#039;&#039; -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:54, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Was that Michelle Fields? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:44, 14 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I also greatly dislike the tone of this article. It gives the impression that we here at this Wiki somehow stand separate and apart from the &amp;quot;fandom&amp;quot; which it sarcastically ridicules. Were it up to me, everything on this page but the short History section would be removed. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:46, 12 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I find this article totally hilarious and that it contains quite a lot of truths. {{unsigned|210.49.121.202}}&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m okay with the link.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:36, 13 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I admit to being a little surprised at the negative reactions, as this is all stuff that&#039;s already written in various places on this wiki.  Still, I recognize that if my only supporter is an anonymous string of numbers, I apparently just have a weird opinion on it.  I just talked to Walky about it and he said the sarcastic &amp;quot;accomplishments&amp;quot;list could maybe be preserved if it were just a small part of a large, otherwise focusing-on-the-positive article.  That sounds okay to me...  I&#039;d kind of like to keep at least &#039;&#039;some&#039;&#039; of the list in there, but, again, I seemingly have no perception of how vicious what I wrote is, so maybe it should be totally scrapped.  For now I&#039;ll call shenanigans on myself while we decide what to do.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:54, 13 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Keep it.  I read some seriously ridiculous crap in the past week that makes this page DESERVE existence.  Oh yeah, and it needs a mention of terrible fanfiction in there, since nothing is free from terrible fanfiction.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 05:35, 13 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: This article is just full of win. Reading it totally made my day. I say keep it. [[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:31, 13 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don&#039;t have a problem witht he negativity of the article per-se... it just seems kinda &#039;&#039;down&#039;&#039; on fans unless there&#039;s some contrasting material to balance it out. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:51, 13 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Pretty much all of the snark and negativity on display in the current version is depressingly close to the truth, but I for one would certainly like to see it balanced out with stuff about the more positive aspects of TF fandom. --[[User:TVsGrady|TVsGrady]] 00:17, 18 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It currently bears an uncanny resemblence to Encyclopedia Dramatica. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 08:02, 13 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It has been my observation that other fandoms, particularly the GI Joe fandom (probably owing to TF&#039;s close relationship with Joe), think TF fans are absolutely fucking insane. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:48, 14 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The Sonic The Hedgehog fandom makes Transformers, G. I. Joe or basically anyone else look like rank amateurs in the insanity department.  I am dead serious as hilarious as it might sound.  Death threats and talk of character rape is how you say &amp;quot;hello&amp;quot; over there.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 04:52, 19 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
I am in favor of the article staying in its present state, as a reminder against such foolish behavior.  It made my day reading the Fandom section, and under the management&#039;s rule that &amp;quot;THE FUNNY STAYS.&amp;quot;, it should be here. [[User:Ronimus Prime|Ronimus Prime]] 03:51, 18 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I say keep it. It reminds fans not to take themselves too seriously. In fact, maybe even add a note on the whole &amp;quot;Who is Cyclonus&amp;quot; thing. [[User:67.160.13.149|67.160.13.149]] 22:39, 29 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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This whole page sounds like another one of Walky&#039;s idiotic rants against the fandom. Snore. Why don&#039;t people make fun of the anti-fans like Walky more often, when the things they say and do are far more ridiculous as they can&#039;t be defended by &amp;quot;Well, he&#039;s a crazy fan&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
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==There==&lt;br /&gt;
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Now it is fair and balanced.&lt;br /&gt;
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As this page has, as was pretty much inevitable, now gotten worse and even MORE ueseless, I would like to re-iterate my previous position that everything other than the brief history section should be removed. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:32, 3 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:If we&#039;re going to keep the page at all, I think we should keep our new friend&#039;s contribution.  Don&#039;t edit it or clean it up, leave it at his reading level. [[User:69.255.229.3|69.255.229.3]] 18:35, 3 August 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Beastformer (species)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;I hadn&#039;t got Joe/TF 4 #2 yet... fucking AWESOME. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 04:24, 23 February 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Ooh..uhh...sorry about the spoiler. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 04:57, 23 February 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m not irked, but for future reference, use the &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{spoiler}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; template when updating with any just-recently-released comics/cartoons (well, save stuff where the &amp;quot;Coming soon&amp;quot; template would be more appropriate). --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 04:59, 23 February 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Cool.  Added the spoiler tag.  About how long until we take it down?  A month? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 05:07, 23 February 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Thereabouts, yeah. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 05:12, 23 February 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alternate meaning ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Some fans use &amp;quot;Beastformer&amp;quot; as a term for any TF with an animal mode, does anyone else think that this article should include some kind of acknowledgment of that? --[[User:TVsGrady|TVsGrady]] 00:24, 31 October 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t.  &amp;quot;Beastformer&amp;quot; had a specific meaning prior to being used in that way.--[[User:Chip|Chip]] 05:26, 17 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:A disambiguation sounds reasonable. &amp;quot;____Former&amp;quot; is common enough in casual transfan discourse that a fan could arrive at this page expecting to or looking for information on all Beast-Transfomers. Although since the wiki usually uses American names, I&#039;m not sure why the article isn&#039;t titled Battle Beasts.&lt;br /&gt;
::What would the disambiguation even lead to? We don&#039;t have an article on animal Transformers in general, and I don&#039;t think we need to make one. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 00:03, 15 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Well, in regards to the article being under the Japanese name, its because in none of the Battle Beasts&#039; appearances in US Transformers fiction have they ever been identified as &amp;quot;Battle Beasts&amp;quot;.  I, personally, think the article should be called &amp;quot;Battle Beasts&amp;quot; since that&#039;s the logical equivalent to the Japanese name...but I got out-voted. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 23:38, 14 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Wait, there was a vote?  I would&#039;ve been all in for Battle Beasts.  I don&#039;t get why these guys are the lone exception to the &amp;quot;Western Names&amp;quot; rule.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 00:13, 15 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Seconded. I could use it as an excuse to make Blackthorne Comics articles if we ever track down all four of those issues! :D -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 00:23, 15 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it&#039;s a little different here since there is no American name &#039;&#039;within Transformers&#039;&#039; for these guys, and we generally don&#039;t use extra-TF information.  Regardless, it&#039;s not a big deal to me either way, but I do think that difference is worth noting. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 01:59, 15 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: What Steve said. If the Battle Beasts ever get more than unnamed cameos in US TF fiction (hey, who knows), then yeah, I&#039;d say switch over to those names. But as of now, the only official, part-of-Transformers nomenclature for the little critters we have comes out of th eland of the rising sun... --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 03:17, 15 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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If they&#039;re from the planet beest, let&#039;s just call them Beesties!--[[User:Zodberg|Zodberg]] 04:06, 15 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Laser Beasts ==&lt;br /&gt;
Given that the laser beasts are explicitly from the same universe as the other Beastformers, shouldn&#039;t they be covered by the wiki?  I know we don&#039;t cover every G.I. Joe, nor should we, but I see two key differences:&lt;br /&gt;
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1) Beastformers aren&#039;t a separate property that&#039;s had crossovers with TF, but an actual offshoot of TF.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) There is no organized Beastformer fandom to take care of this stuff for us.&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it would at least be reasonable to cover the characters. [[User:69.255.229.3|69.255.229.3]] 03:26, 18 July 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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