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Talk:Leonard Nimoy

2007-02-04T20:11:21Z

69.59.112.150:

Vote to move this page to [[Spock]]! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:09, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
:Well, that ''is'' probably the name of his first toy, and he ''has'' retconned himself and Spock into being the same character (despite having explicitly said otherwise in the past)... --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 19:53, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
::I say thee nay.--[[User:69.59.112.150|69.59.112.150]] 20:11, 4 February 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Ginrai (human)

2007-02-01T04:41:14Z

69.59.112.150: /* Toys */

Should the human Ginrai,a nd the Autobot Ginrai (Who becoems Victory Leo and LioConvoy) have seperate entries? What about Shuta Goh and Goshooter?

I mean- they becoems seperate characters at one point. (It's a footnote thign for the others, but kidna big deal for Ginrai.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:51, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

==Dreamwave==
Man, I totally forgot that in Dreamwave continuity, Optimus Prime's Powermaster is named Ginrai. And he's a scientist dude, like Hi-Q. This will be messy. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:15, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
:Haaactually... IIRC... wasn't his named spelled "Jinrai"? That's enough of an excuse for a separate article to avoid the mess in my book! :) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 16:29, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
::If you're talking about the Dreamwave dude, it was Ginrai, just like the American reissue's name. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:17, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Aw, phooey. Wonder why I thought it was spelled with the J...? (EDIT: Tsk, not signed in.) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 16:29, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

::::Ehh, throw in a note int he Dreamwave section noting he's signifigantly different in DW continuity.
::::Hey McFeely, I've been meaning to ask, does Digimon Savers get any less... shite after the first episode? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:57, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::Well the thing is, Dreamwave/reissue Ginrai is just Hi-Q with a different name. The MTMTE profile has Hot Rod describe him as "a brilliant scientist and programmer... he can be a little stuffy sometimes, but he's a pretty stand-up being." Furthermore, he's a Nebulan. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

==Victory Leo==

Maybe Leo should have his own seperate article. For example, he's the same character as Ginrai in the cartoon, but completely seperate in the manga. Plus, there's enough content in regards to Leo to fill an entire article of his own. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 22:34, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
: I'll trust your judgment on this. Go ahead! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:11, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
:: I vote separate on the grounds of manga-dom. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:35, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
::: Mmn, I figured that'd be how we'd roll, but at the time I had a good flow going and just really couldn't be bothered to stop and make two articles. :) Well, it's basically all written now, anyway, and just needs moved over. When anyone is bothered. With some pictures. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 23:47, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

==Toys==
Why is Ginrai's toy called a "remold of Powermaster Optimus Prime" when all the evidence seems to point to the contrary? I would go in and change that right off, but I want to make sure no one's going to object and switch it back before I do.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 07:04, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
: We know for a fact that Powermaster Prime was the first version and Ginrai was the modified come-after. There have been interviews and concept art to this effect. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 07:41, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
:: The concept art contradicts that, judging largely on arm design (even the PM Prime mock-up in the '87-'88 catalogs for PM Prime use the Ginrai arms, for instance). I don't know of any interviews; I'd very much like to be redirected to them. Granted, this is a somewhat convoluted situation given that the toy was designed purely as Prime, but to say it's a remold of the actual final release of the PM Prime toy seems to be incorrect.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 08:25, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
::: As far as I remember, Prime was originally supposed to have a bunch of stuff Ginrai ended up with, but it was too cost prohibitive, so Hasbro simpled it down. Takara later re-added that stuff. This was corroborated in... something. Maybe Monzo will remember. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:55, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
:::: I would love to see pics of the various prototype PM Primes, especially the ultra gimmick-laden multiple-master version, if only to have some pics to space out the ultra-long trivia section in the Optimus Prime (G1) toy section. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:34, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
::::: I think the wording that might more appropriate here is "a different mold" rather than "remold", but I desperately want to get ahold of whatever interviews possessed by Monzo (or whoever).

::::: I actually cut the PM Prime toy trivia short since there's LOADS of it (three pages devoted entirely to just him in Generations Dlx), sticking only to what actually pertains to the released toy. There's a page full of sketches for a design begun in 1988 that was going to bring Prime in line with the futuristic '86+ aesthetic that I didn't even touch. It's barely recognizable as Prime, and I wouldn't have known it was him if I didn't have some of the captions translated and did some character comparisons. I'll throw a scan or two up eventually and a patent screenshot for the old stuff.--[[User:69.59.112.150|69.59.112.150]] 04:41, 1 February 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Skram (G2)

2006-12-02T08:19:03Z

69.59.112.150:

So- what? It's not Skram? Are we distrusting the evidence of our eyes? Do we not think someone in War Within was Windcharger unless he's explicitly named? I seem to be missing what's going on here- because it looks to '''me''' like Skram's a member of maximal security in the BM era, several centuries after G2-- yet his wiki entry seems to be saying that another, completely unrelated character was inspired by his deco. I call shenanigans on that, and I say the trivia entry is pulling this 'not the same characterness' out of it's ass.

If I'm missing something then by all means ''explain'' it. But if you have a picture of Skram in the 23rd (or whatever) century, why isn't it part of his history here? I think Skram being active in Beast Era is a pretty interesting thing for a character who never really did anything else. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:12, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
: I shouldn't have to explain. This bit of trivia is ''already in the Trivia section''. Put in there by ''guy who helped decide his deco.'' How is that out of his ass? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:20, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

::But it's not trivia. If it was in both places, it belongs in the Timelines section of his Fiction area.

::Also, the trivia entry is making an unsubstantiated claim that the Maximal-guy isn't Skram. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:00, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Are you purposefully ignoring what I'm saying? ACCORDING TO THE ARTISTS/FANS WHO COMPOSED THE IMAGE, IT IS MERELY AN HOMAGE TO SKRAM'S COLOR SCHEME. Are you only here, parrotting the same exact damn fucking argument over and over despite what I say, just to raise my blood pressure? Do our words mean nothing to you? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:05, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

::::Really? The trivia bit just says he's an homage, and earlier everyone was asking. The linked thread on Allspark doesn't mention Skram either.
::::So, Trenttroop did, in fact, '''intend this not to be Skram'''... but still used Skram's color scheme?  I'm still a little confused, clear that up for me. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:26, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::<strike>My bedlinens are in Joyce's color scheme, but I'm fairly certain my bed is not Joyce.</strike> Okay, I realize that I'm going to have to spell this out for you in a less artful way. You see, it is possible to homage something without it actually being that something. For example, I may like Spider-Man's colors. I could put Spider-Man's colors on some guy. That doesn't mean I intend for that guy to be Spider-Man! It is merely a color homage! This is very simple, and either you are lacking some part of your brain or you are being difficult on purpose.

:::::Do you want other examples? [[K-9]]'s page treats this subject similarly. And, sure, you'd think that the Predacons behind Razorclaw on the final page are themselves, but they're actually descendents/homages/not-the-original characters. An homage does not always sctrictly mean they're the original guy. In fact, being an homage pretty much precludes them being the original guy, or it would be called an update instead.

:::::And as I've said repeatedly, you do not have to ask Trent. M Sipher had input into the color schemes of these guys. And he was the guy who put the trivia note in. Therefore I WOULD TAKE HIS WORD ON THIS. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:02, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

::::::I see. Sipher thought it would be cute to stick the colors of a patrol specialist onto another patrol specialist- but for him to be a '''new character'''. Of course- there's nothing here to actually indicate he '''is''' a new character.
::::::To clarify my poistion, since I was apparently insufficiently blunt;
:::::: 1) That is idiotic
:::::: 2) That is an unnatural reading of the cannon from the outside. The natural reading is- two patrol specialists in the same highly distinctive color scheme? Same guy!
:::::: 3) You're elevatign [[Author intent]] above the actual cannon in a situation where Author intent is as it's '''weakest.'
:::::: My eyes, and the circumstance he appears in, tell me that is Skram. There is nothing in the cannon to indicate imply, or even really give a circumstantial reason he would not be Skram. Against it being Skram is 'Oh, I was throwing around color schemes.' -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:20, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
::::::: I don't really want to have a Fiction section that says "This is definitely Skram," and then note in the Trivia section "Actually, no he's not, according to the creators." How backwards is that? The idea of a color homage may seem odd to you, but I'm pretty sure it's fairly obvious to the rest of us. I don't understand your inability to cope with the concept of a homage or why one would do such a thing. Again, that's what an homage IS. If people didn't do it, we wouldn't have a word for it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:30, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::::: I think you're falling prey to a fan-creator mindset, and aren't able to step back from this and see it for what it is; an actual, published piece of fiction, which is supposed to be read and enjoyed by people who don't know Trent and Sipher- but might be familiar with Transformers, and would, logically, conclude this is Skram.
:::::::: I'm saying [[Author intent]] here is trumped by what we see, and unless some subsequent publication goes out of its way to establish this is not Skram-- hs'e Skram.
:::::::: Peripherally, I'm also saying (as rudely as possible) "If Sipher, Trent, et-al didn't want peopel to conclude he's skram, they shouldn't have given him Skrams' fucking color schem. This entire debate is a result of a conscious choice on their parts- apparentlty designed to decieve and confuse the reader- and generally make it impossible to draw logical conclusions about the universe from the published material."
:::::::: Homage-colors '''suck''' on toys- but at least on toys we have a way of sorting out when someone isn't supposed to be who they look like. Doign that in a comic? Somebody had a major attack of the stupids. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:46, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
::::::::: I would say the identity of the character cannot be stated assuredly until we have official confirmation one way or the other. The author intent is merely evidence in favor of this caution, to be discarded if real fiction says one way or the other. To absolutely declare him to be Skram is misleading, especially so prominently on Skram's page, and especially especially if we have any evidence to the contrary, which we do. A note in trivia handles the matter better. Your feelings on what is and is not a good homage is not the arbitrar. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:12, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
You ramble on and on this, yet you fail to realize that there's nothing that states that they're the same character in the first place? The guy only fucking shows up in one piece of art as a extra to a comic with no text whatsoever for him, thus we default to author intent until canon comes around for him. Frankly, "author intent" is on a higher tier than your retarded "SAME COLORS=SAME CHARACTER" assumption. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 19:33, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

:That's a bit like arguing that 2/3 of the cast of The War Within are unknowns because they never got a dialog box identifying them.
:So appearance counts for NOTHING?
:Look, if you want to argue 'Hey, we might be getting something with these guys, this might all be settled in an official capacity, so don't start examining it too closely yet- there's more coming' I'm fine with that. But the argument I see is "Dont' trust the evidence of your eyes, trust what the guy who designed the art (but isnt' the writer of this possibly firthcoming material) was thinking. And that's a bullshit argument. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:41, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
::This is a false choice. Appearance doesn't count for nothing. It also does not count for EVERYTHING. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:42, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Neither does Author intent. Appearance does count for everything (or at least a lot) in Transformers in most cases (such a white-tiger-deco'd patrol cars) yet apparently in '''this''' case- it counts for nothing, and Author intent counts for all? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:00, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
::::I'd say the results are inconclusive. Which is why the appearance of the Skram-esque guy goes into trivia, not the fiction section. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:38, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::''War Within'' was clearly stated to represent old characters in prehistory. A one-off group shot of unnamed characters, that aren't likely to get any fiction, wasn't. Beyond Tigatron, which was indicated by many cues other than color scheme, including "author intent". [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 20:40, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
For the record, I think there are far more people who have no idea who Skram is in the first place so there is not a one for one based on colors of someone you don't know, and have never heard about. If I understand this correctly, this is based on a group shot of lots a similar designed patrol guys in different colors. I imagine there are other panels in transformers that have background charaters without names. Fans can place names on them if they want, and while author intent might be a good gauge as to who is who, it doesn't always workout that way in the end. It might be easy to pick out a relatively known robot out of a group in War Within because of an enlarged group knowledge of the subject, but a G2 comic character is not going to have as large of a group base for such knowledge. Until this debate happened, I've never even heard of, much less seen Skram. So the likely conclusion is that a trivial note would be fitting for a trivial one shot deal. Now if someone decides to do an Adventures of the Maximal Security Patrol, or some such thing, then you might get more useful information. ~Ithekro

Wow... that's uh.. a pretty heated discussion about whether some guy is Skram or not. I agree with parts of what both sides are saying. I agree with Derik that sometimes the only thing we have to go on is a character's appearance -- even when that appearance may have been modified in some way -- to tell who is who. I also agree with him that declaring the character to be surely not-Skram would elevate author intent to canonical status, which is not acceptable. However, as Interrobang says, most of the cases where we decide somebody *is* somebody based only on appearance are in a story context where we are *expecting*, and even told to expect new-body versions of previously established characters. The Maximal Command Security Force doesn't really fit that bill to the extent of ''War Within''. As such, there is no real reason to think that it is Skram, nor is there any reason to declare him unSkram. Neither side really bears the burden of proof on this issue... it's simply insoluble. As such, I definitely think it should be mentioned in the trivia rather than the fiction section. However, I think adding a sentence to the trivia that acknowledges the *possibility* that Skram is in the MCSF is appropriate, as long as it's emphasized that there is no canonical evidence either way. Absent the author intent information, it's a curious coincidence which will probably never be resolved, but should be mentioned. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 05:49, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Am I alone in thinking he looks like Depth Charge? With, uh, orange pants? [[User:Chip|Chip]] 06:09, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I'd say the current form is sufficiently ambiguous that it can go either way, so nothing more probably needs to be said in the trivia blurb.--[[User:69.59.112.150|69.59.112.150]] 08:19, 2 December 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Megatron (G1)

2006-10-20T06:55:04Z

69.59.112.150: /* Classics */ Note on Classics Megatron's unibrow vs. early shots.

{{Template:Disambig3|Megatron}}

:''Megatron is a [[Decepticon]] character in the [[Generation 1]] continuity.''

[[Image:Megatrong1.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Baby, you know I don't mean to hurt you.]]

'''Megatron''' is (sometimes) the founder of the Decepticon uprising, and their most well-known and feared leader. As a young, charismatic combatant in the gladatorial pits, he began to believe in a grand purpose for his race -- it is the Transformers' glorious destiny to rule. He feels great contempt for other Transformers who, he feels, betray their proud heritage by demanding peace and cooperation with weaker life forms.

Megatron will attempt almost anything to achieve his goals, but his schemes are never in any way subtle. This is perhaps due to his arrogance, but his pride is not so strong as to dissuade him from abandoning a battle he is losing. Some would question his sanity, though these few are mostly now dead by his hands.

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
''(Note: Events from the UK-only comic stories are in italics.)''

''Rising from his beginnings as a gladiator for the city-state of [[Tarn]],'' Megatron and the Decepticons were the ones who developed transformation first, using it to begin the war against the Autobots, who fought back by mimicking the technology. In time, the war grew so fierce that Cybertron itself was shaken from its orbit, and set adrift in the cosmos. Eventually, four million years ago, the planet fell into the path of an asteroid cluster in the Sol system that threatened to destroy it, and so Optimus Prime led a contingent of his troops in the Ark to reduce the asteroids to rubble, saving Cybertron. The plan was a success, but immediately afterwards, Megatron and his troops attacked, forcing Optimus Prime to crash the Ark into prehistoric Earth.

Four million years later, in 1984, the Transformers were reawakened, and Megatron immediately set about trying to locate a source of fuel for the Decepticons. Unable to ingest common Earth gasoline, the Decepticons kidnapped [[Sparkplug Witwicky]] and forced him to develop a conversion process, but this only afforded him the chance to poison their fuel, deactivating them all. The Autobots were not saved, however, as [[Shockwave_(G1)|Shockwave]] then defeated them all and brought the Decepticons back online to serve him - including Megatron. Chafing under his command, Megatron battled Shockwave, but was soundly defeated, forcing him into an alliance with [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]], who located and reactivated the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], who had defeated Shockwave in the past. However, Ratchet loosed them on Megatron, and was willing to sacrifice himself to knock Megatron off a cliff. While Ratchet survived, Megatron disappeared for some time.

Soon, however, Megatron re-emerged, trapped in pistol mode, his higher brain functions disconnected. Used as a weapon by wannabe gangster, [[Joey Slick]], Megatron eventually restored himself, and was impressed enough with Slick for standing up to him that he allowed him to live. But at this point, Megatron was desperately low on fuel, and attacked a coal mine, attempting to locate some, when he eventually completely ran out, and froze in place. He was soon located by [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]], who brought him back online, and they subsequently entered into an alliance with the human [[Donny Finkleberg]], who used the alias of "Robot Master" to con humankind into thinking the Transformers worked for him. Shockwave and Megatron entered into a period of shared leadership, but when a two-pronged attack by the Autobots saw Megatron defeated by [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], and Shockwave allowing the Autobots to capture the secrets of [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], Megatron was able to spin the situation and reclaim his leadership.

In order to attain possession of a new energy-generating device, the hydrothermacline, Megatron battled Optimus Prime in a video game duel, using a cheat code to continue the fight after he had lost. Prime defeated him again, but at the expense of some of the game's characters, and ruled himself the loser because he would not have committed such an act in real life. Prime was destroyed, and Megatron's elation soon turned into paranoia, as he had not killed Prime with his own hands, and believed he could still be alive. Eventually descending into insanity, Megatron boarded the spacebridge to Cybertron and detonated it with his fusion cannon, apparently killing himself.

That would be all the US comics saw of Megatron for quite some time, ''but their sister title in the UK, which produced its own material, interspliced with the US stories, soon brought back the great slag-maker for more adventures. Prior to Megatron's seeming death, there had been a story which had seen both him and Prime transported to Cybertron, where the disembodied local Decepticon leader, [[Lord Straxus]], attempted to possess his body. The attempt failed, but Straxus made another attempt with a specially-crafted clone of Megatron, which was transported to Earth soon after the real Megatron vanished. The clone believed itself to be the real thing - as did the comics' readers, thinking that the spacebridge explosion had transported Megatron elsewhere on Earth - and after a battle with the mechanoid, Centurion, it was salvaged by Shockwave, who brainwashed it and unleashed it on [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], a recreated future version of Megatron who had travelled back in time from the year 2006 and posed a threat to Shockwave's leadership. The clone Megatron, however, saw a possible partner in Galvatron, and the two teamed up to battle Autobots and Decepticons from both present and future in the apocalyptic "Time Wars". Subsequently, the clone returned to Cybertron, where it defeated the ruling Decepticon Triumvirate, but was then confronted with the ''real'' Megatron - the Spacebridge explosion had deposited him in the Dead End region of Cybertron, where he had wandered, with no recollection of who he was, until he had saved a Decepticon from Autobots and regained his memories. The clone Megatron susbequently destroyed itself to prevent Straxus, buried inside its mind, from taking over.''

The stage was now set for Megatron's return in the US comics, as he had his [[Micromaster]] Sports Car patrol capture the Autobot medic, Ratchet, and forced him to recreate Starscream as a [[Pretender|Pretenders]]). Ratchet did so, but also restored [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]], [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] and [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] in the same manner, thwarting his scheme. When Megatron then attempted to flee through a trans-time dimensional portal, Ratchet tackled him as his base then exploded around them, apparently killing them both.

Soon after, however, Autobot detective [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] discovered that the explosion had actually blown them through the portal, and he dispatched a probe to pull them back from the gaps between reality. However, when they rematerialised, it was revealed that the explosion had fused the two enemies together, into a hideous, twisted mockery of a being, which ran rampant through the Ark. The half that was Ratchet begged Optimus Prime to kill them, but Prime could not, and had the Micromaster, Fixit, separate their bodies. Unfortunately, Fixit could not separate their minds, as the two discovered when they were reactivated with [[Nucleon]] - sharing each other's thoughts, feeling, sensations and sights, Ratchet attempted to break the cycle by crashing the Ark on Earth.

===="Another Time And Place" text story====
[[Image:Megatronam.jpg|thumb|right|Aww, that's almost adorable]]
After the end of the G1 comics, the final UK annual printed a text story entitled "Another Time And Place", which followed up on the events of the Ark crash, and saw Bludgeon and his followers locate Megatron's body and revive it with Nucleon, only for him to be defeated by Optimus Prime and Grimlock. This, of course, clashes with the US G2 comic - but it does ''not'' clash in with the alternate first issue of the UK G2 comic (other UK G2 issues were simply reprints of US material), in which Megatron simply attributes his new body to human scientists, with no further explanation to contradict the events of "Another Time and Place".

====Generation 2====
Although thought dead for a year or two, Megatron had actually survived the Ark crash, and had quietly worked to repair it, concealing it beneath the ground (apparently, Ratchet died in the crash, as their shared mind does not come up in the story). Tracking a transforming signal mistakenly believing it was another Transformer, Megatron came across the shape-shifting castle of the terrorist organisation, [[Cobra]], and entered into a bargain with its leader, [[Cobra Commander]], offering him the technology of the Ark in exchange for the new weapons his organisation was developing. Reconstructed into a new tank body, with a powerful rail gun, Megatron defeated a sqaud of Autobots sent to stop him, and then turned on Cobra, capturing the scientist who had developed his gun, [[Dr. Biggles-Jones|Doctor Biggles-Jones]], and escaping in the airborne Ark. Following a climactic battle with [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]], Megatron then battled and soundly defeated Bludgeon, reclaiming leadership of the Decepticons and stealing the Matrix from Optimus Prime, using it to bring his newest warriors online - only to have his faction bested by the forces of [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] and his second-generation Cybertronians. Megatron then entered into an alliance with the Autobots to both defeat Starscream, who had seized control of the Decepticon ship, the Warworld, through the power of the Matrix, and stop Jhiaxus. The tale ended with the Autobots and Decepticons uniting.

===Animated continuity===
'''Voice Actor:''' [[Frank Welker]] (US), [[Seizō Katō]] (Japan)<br>

[[Image:G1Megatron-LD.jpg|left|thumb|Megatron has no nostrils.]]
Megatron is a Decepticon, one of the lineal descendants of the military hardware robots created by the [[Quintessons]] on their factory world of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Following a war between the Decepticons and the other robot race, the [[Autobot|Autobots]], the Decepticons were defeated by the Autobots' invention of transformation, which allowed them the advantange of stealth. The Autobot victory in the war began the [[Golden Age of Cybertron]], but a viper lurked within this paradise, as the Decepticons too eventually developed transformation, eventually leading to the creation of Megatron.

Gathering a small number of troops together, Megatron made a small strike on an outer city, killing the current Autobot leader. However, this event was not made public knowledge, and young robots like the naive [[Orion Pax (G1)|Orion Pax]] still looked up to Megatron and his followers because of their new robot-mode flight powers. However, Pax soon learned the error of his ways when Megatron duped him into allowing him access to [[Energon]] warehouses, and Megatron fatally injured him in a scuffle. However, the ancient Autobot, [[Alpha Trion]], reconstructed Pax into a battle hardy configuration - now, he was [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], leader of the Autobots and Megatron's sworn opponent as the civil war erupted again.

[[Image:G1Megatron-Flail.jpg|right|thumb|Megatron and his energy flail/mace/morning star/thingamajig.]]
Eventually, the war drained Cybertron of most of its energy, necessitating that both factions seek out new worlds and new sources of power. Megatron and his elite forces pursued the Autobots' craft, (referred to as the [[Ark|The Ark]] in Beast Wars, following the ship's name from the G1 Marvel Comics) in their star cruiser (referred to as the [[Nemesis]] in Beast Wars) and attacked and boarded the craft, causing it to crash on a prehistoric planet, entombing all on the ship in emergency stasis as it crashed into a dormant volcano.

Four million years later, a volcanic eruption reactivated the Transformers and the war began again on the energy-rich world they found themselves on; Earth. After their first series of battles, the Autobots believed Megatron and the Decepticons destroyed when their new space cruiser crashed into the [[Pacific Ocean]], but in reality they survived and reconstructed the cruiser to serve as a sub-oceanic staging base and bunker. Megatron re-established contact with Cybertron, and began construction of an intergalactic transport system called a "space bridge," although the early tests nearly resulted in his destruction when he was sucked into the portal and teleported to Cybertron. The technology was eventually stabilised, however, and used in a grand scheme to transport Cybertron through space into Earth's orbit, where the natural disasters its gravity wreaked created tremendous energy that Megatron and the Decepticons gathered. The Earth was saved, however, when Megatron's stockpiles of energy were detonated by the Autobots, the explosion forcing Cybertron out of orbit. Again, however, Megatron was able to cheat death, and was forced to team up with Optimus Prime in order to stop the machinations of his treacherous lieutenant, [[Starscream_(G1)|Starscream]].

In his next scheme, Megatron absorbed all the separate powers of the other Decepticons into himself, and challenged Optimus Prime to one-on-one combat. With the added abilities of all his minions, Megatron easily defeated Prime in the battle, but when his deception was revealed, he and his followers were defeated in a group attack.

Over the following years, Megatron's schemes to obtain Earth's energies continued. His assorted plans included various attempts to harness the power of Earth's core, thefts of several unstable energy devices from human scientists, the draining of energy from a time-lost prehistoric island, and partnership with a human politician that allowed him to force the Autobots off of Earth, and actually allowed him to conquer Central City among [[Giant Purple Griffin|many]], many others.

Eventually, however, Megatron turned his attention away from Earth, and succeeded in completely conquering Cybertron by the Earth year 2005. Learning the Autobots were preparing a strike against the planet, Megatron and the Decepticons intercepted the shuttle sent to Earth to acquire energy to power the raid, and unleashed a mighty assault on [[Autobot City]]. In the course of the conflict, word was sent to Optimus Prime, who arrived the following morning after the slaughter and confronted Megatron in another one-on-one struggle. Megatron appeared beaten, but spying a discarded pistol, stalled for time by pleading for mercy as he attempted to reach it. The young Autobot Hot Rod then intervened, tackling Megatron, but the Decepticon was too powerful for him, seizing him and using him as shield as he grabbed the pistol and opened fire on Prime. The wounds were fatal and sent Prime to the grave - but not before he delivered his own final blow to Megatron, seriously damaging him and forcing the Decepticons to flee.

On the return trip to Cybertron, it became necessary to jettison excess mass, or the Decepticons would be unable to reach the planet. The wounded Decepticons were voted out, and set adrift in space, including Megatron. But this was not to be the end for the great slag-maker, as the world-devourer, [[Unicron]], found him and recreated him into [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]].

====Generation 1 manga (Japan-only)====

After the events of ''[[The Transformers: The Movie (1986)|The Transformers: The Movie]]'' and ''[[Five Faces of Darkness]]'', Galvatron attempted to destroy the Autobots with a legion of Megatron clones dubbed [[Megatron Military|"The Megatron Military"]]. Each clone was equipped with its own unique fusion cannon and were capable of combining the blasts into an intense attack. As a unified force, the Megatron Military crushed [[Rodimus Prime (G1)|Rodimus Prime]], [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]], [[Springer (G1)|Springer]], [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] and [[Kup (G1)|Kup]]. Their victory was assured until Rodimus managed to deduce that the Megatron Military was being controlled by Galvatron. As it turned out, Galvatron was actually disguised as one of the Megatron clones. Once Rodimus defeated Galvatron, all the Megatron clones lost power and were easily vanquished.

====''Robot Masters'' (Japan-only)====
'''Voice Actor:''' [[Jirō Saitō]] (Japan)
[[Image:Rmrebirthmegatron.JPG|thumb|HAH! I fooled you for all of five seconds!]]
In the exclusive Japanese toyline, ''[[Transformers: Robot Masters]],'' whose story began in the timeline of the G1 animated series, but branched off at some point in the twenty-year interim between seasons 2 and 3, Megatron was lost in an undisclosed accident, leaving his time-displaced ''Beast Wars'' descendant to take his place as Decepticon leader (the toyline applied the qualifying titles of "G1 Megatron" and "Beast Megatron" to the characters to distinguish them). As events progressed, it was revealed that G1 Megatron's consciousness took possession of the body of a "Convoy" (an Autobot leader) known as [[Reverse Convoy]], leader of the planet [[Vehicon_(planet)|Vehicon]], via an inter-dimensional uplink to a black hole, and then used it to pose as an ally to the Autobots, only to betray them by revealing himself as the aptly-named "Rebirth Megatron."

====Battlestars: Return of Convoy'' (Japan-only)====
[[Image:Supermeg.jpg|left|thumb|Super Megatron transforms into a "spaceship"]]
''(Note: With his transformation into Galvatron, Megatron departed from the animated continuity, until five years later, in the Japanese-exclusive storyline, ''Battlestars: The Return of Convoy'', which, although not animated itself (told instead through one chapter of [[manga]] and several [[story page]]s), continues the tale of the cartoon universe.)''

In the previous Japanese-exclusive animated series, ''[[Headmasters (television series)|Headmasters]]'', Galvatron had been apparently destroyed when he was buried on an iceberg. In the ''Return of Convoy'' storyline, a new evil force named [[Dark Nova]] recovered Galvatron's body, and restored him to life as '''Super Megatron''', pitting him against [[Optimus Prime (G1)#Battlestars: Return of Convoy (Japan-only)|Star Convoy]] (the reborn Optimus Prime) and his Autobots. Super Megatron didn't fare too well against his old adversary and was swiftly defeated. Dark Nova then upgraded him into '''Ultra Megatron''' who had a similar success rate.

For the final battle, Dark Nova merged with the remains of Ultra Megatron and formed the massive [[Dark Nova|Star Giant]]. Star Giant was virtually invincible from the outside, so Star Convoy, [[Grandus]] and [[Sky Garry]] traveled inside his body and began tearing up the joint. As soon as they'd inflicted enough damage, the trio escaped just as Star Giant detonated, leaving only his head some-what intact. Fortunately for Megatron, his body was stored within the head, allowing him to survive the explosion.

====Generation 2 manga (Japan-only)====

[[Image:JapG2Meg.jpg|right|250px|thumb|He hasn't lost his nack for monologuing in his old age]]

After [[Battlestars]], Megatron recovered from the Star Giant incident and returned to his original body. Appearing to have discarded his evil ways, he joined with Optimus Prime to form the [[Cybertron Alliance]] and ushered in the Second Generation of Transformers. However, after human soldiers killed one of his dearest comrades, he adopted a new body and began the war anew.

Megatron coordinated an onslaught of attacks which mortally wounded Optimus Prime (who had adopted a new missile trailer mode to counter Megatron). Megatron then delivered the fatal blow, personally, and believed his enemy dead. Killing Optimus Prime wasn't so easy, as the [[spark|sparks]] of the previous Autobot Supreme Commanders within the [[Matrix of Leadership]] used the [[Reconfiguration Matrix]] to transform Optimus into Battle Convoy. The fight raged on for a while until Prime managed to drive the Decepticon forces to retreat into outerspace.

===Kid Stuff Talking Story Books continuity===
'''Voice actor: Earl Hammond(?)'''

In ''[[When Continents Collide]]'', Megatron calls Soundwave a "blundering tape-filled idiot." This is notable because it is hilarious. Also, Megatron totally sounds like "Mumm-Ra" from ''Thundercats''. This version of Megatron also has an odd obsession with drills, mole machines, and other burrowing devices, as he uses them frequently in his plans for energy gathering and conquest.

===Marvel Books Big Looker Storybook continuity===

[[Image:KidsCliff1.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Megatron rides in style.]]

In ''[[The Great Car Rally]]'', a bunch of humans set up a race for charity. The victor would received a year's supply of oil and gasoline. Well, the Decepticons desperately wanted that bounty, so rather than just steal it, they decided to sneak into the race. [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] was one of the Autobots driving in the rally and was unaware that the scary black cadillac was actually being driven by Megatron! Megatron dogged Cliffjumper for quite a while but ended up losing to the Minibot. Cliffjumper won the race and everybody smiled, even Optimus Prime.

===Dreamwave comics continuity===
Young Megatron was a gladiatorial combatant in the depths of [[Cybertron_(planet)|Cybertron]]’s underworld. As victory upon victory mounted, he began to realize that the games were nothing more than an elaborate attempt by the Cybertronian elders to hide the truth of Cybertron’s history from the masses. When Megatron attempted to gain access to that knowledge through exploration and research, the Cybertronian elders attempted to have him assassinated - a plan that only resulted in stirring up even more discontent among Cybertronians, allowing Megatron to begin recruiting for the Decepticon movement.

Megatron's forces began a civil war of Autobot against Decepticon in order to mask his reactivation of the ancient planetary engines buried beneath Cybertron’s surface. As a result, Cybertron would be transformed into a massive warworld that would cut a swathe of destruction through the galaxy. This plan failed. During a conflict with [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], Megatron's lieutenant [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] activated the planet mechaforming process too soon, resulting in the destruction of the machinery.

Roughly 7.4 million years BCE, Megatron and Optimus Prime disappeared in an early test of the then-unstable [[Space Bridge]] matter-transport system. Spending an undisclosed time on the planet [[Quintessa]], Megatron returned with an overwhelming army of lifeless [[Air Warrior|seeker clones]], quickly subjugating Cybertron. ''(This story was never finished due to the closure of Dreamwave.)''

Four million years BCE, Cybertron was threatened by a massive approaching asteroid, so Optimus Prime led a contingent of Autobots aboard the [[Ark]] to blow the rock to fragments, which were transported away by an orbital Space Bridge network. When this task was completed, Megatron chose this moment to strike, attacking the Ark with his troops. Crippled, the craft flew through one of the Space Bridge portals, and was transported to prehistoric Earth, where it crashed, entombing the occupants in stasis for four million years.

The Autobots and Decepticons were reactivated in 1984, but specific details of the battles were unrecorded until 1999, when a Autobot/Human military alliance succeeded in capturing and deactivating the Decepticons. However, the [[Ark II]] spaceship carrying them back to Cybertron exploded shortly after liftoff, and the Transformers were believed destroyed. In actuality, they had been scattered back to Earth, where they lay in [[stasis lock]] across the globe for three years. This slumber was brought to an end when [[Lazarus|Adam Rook]] (aka Lazarus), a rogue military scientist who had devised a method of controlling Transformers, salvaged many of the fallen Cybertronians and reprogrammed them as mass killing machines, which he then attempted to sell on the black market. Megatron was first to break free of the human's control, overriding the new programming and capturing Lazarus during an auction. Megatron forced Lazarus to watch as he unleashed a technorganic virus designed to transform all of Earth into a new Cybertron. It also served to lure Optimus Prime and the Autobots, also now reactivated, to his location. Megatron, tired of the war, continuously asked Prime to join him. After his first failed attempt, Megatron unleashed [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] on [[San Francisco]], ensuing in mass slaughter, in an attempt to show Prime the humans were not worth fighting for. However, the selfless sacrifice of several firemen restored Prime's faith in humanity and allowed him and the Autobots to beat back Megatron.

Several months later. Megatron was subliminally summoned to a remote area in Alaska along with the other Earthbound Transformers. There they battled until Megatron's former second-in-command, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]], who had arrived and revealed that in their absence, the war on Cybertron had ended. He arrested Megatron, Prime, and their troops as war criminals. Megatron, weakened by battle, was quickly defeated by Shockwave and loaded aboard his shuttle for return to Cybertron, only to have Starscream seize the opportunity by jettisoning him into space on the return trip. Megatron used the time floating in space to contemplate his existence and the Decepticon goal. Realizing that he had wasted millennia in his feud with Prime, Megatron resolved to once again conquer Cybertron as a means to enhancing the Transformer race and strengthening it from outside threats. It seemed as through he would not live to accomplish this goal, however, as death closed in on him... only for him to be retrieved by the [[Junkion]] [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]], who took him to the planet [[Junkion (planet)|Junkion]] and repaired and re-armed him, only to be killed in return.

Travelling to the Planet [[Beest]], Megatron defeated the exiled Decepticon warlords, the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]], and rebuilt them into the mightiest of all combiners, [[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]], to serve as his ace in the hole in his quest to reclaim leadership of the Decepticons. Moving in stealth on Cybertron, Megatron defeated Shockwave, severing his arm and forcing him into servitude. He then returned to Earth to collect the remaining Decepticons under Starscream's command, and to teach Starscream a lesson long in coming.

While it was alluded that Megatron had a grand goal in mind that also included the subjugation of the [[Quintessons]], the remainder of the story has yet to be told due to the closure of Dreamwave. However it has been stated by representatives of IDW publishing, the current holders of the Transformer comic license, that once Dreamwave has exited bankruptcy court, they intend to finish the story.

=== IDW comics continuity ===

Megatron is established in the ''Infiltration'' arc as being extremely powerful. He emerges unscathed from the destruction by aerial bombardment of the [[Nebraska]] command bunker and takes two direct hits in the chest from Blitzwing's tank-mode cannon without breaking stride. A single shot from his arm cannon blew a massive hole clean through Skywarp, and he wrecked Blitzwing simply by grabbing his turret-cannon in one hand and swinging him into the ground. It's no great surprise that, even having sampled the power of [[Ore-13]], the remaining Decepticons under Starscream's command chose to back down rather than face Megatron in direct combat.

Their decision turned out to be a prudent one. Starscream, almost overdosed on Ore-13, launched a one-Decepticon assault on Megatron, yet even with its (supposedly) incredible power boosting his systems, Megatron was no more than scratched. The Decepticon leader then punished Starscream with a point blank shot from his fusion cannon.

This Megatron is definitely not the Maniacal Villain of original continuity. He is disciplined; the only emotion he ever expresses is anger, and he rarely lets it out of his control. He is focused, disregarding a minor distraction like [[Verity Carlo]] in favour of gathering data on Starscream's operations and and apparently ignoring the presence of [[Bumblebee_(G1)|Bumblebee]] and [[Ratchet_(G1)|Ratchet]] at the [[Nebraska]] bunker in his pursuit of his rebellious lieutenant. He's a military robot through and through, brooking no breaches of discipline or the chain of command in his subordinates. He has little time for grand speeches or rants; he simply orders his wayward subordinates to stand down and informs them that "There is no room for mercy. In the end, you are ALL expendable."

Finally, he has a keen mind for strategy and a willingness to prioritise threats. Although the location of the [[Oregon]] command bunker became known to the Autobots, he chose to downgrade the infiltration unit's status from Starscream's premature Phase Five to Phase Two, presumably while he assesses how Earth and Ore-13 fit into the overall Decepticon plan of conquest. Aiding this is a strong pragmatic streak; during the final stages of the Cybertronian cataclysm, Megatron was unwilling even to let Optimus Prime die, knowing that he would be needed to stop the threat of [[Thunderwing_(G1)|Thunderwing]] (though it is unclear if this Megatron possesses the nigh-pathological hatred of Optimus Prime that his predecessors did).

===''Beast Wars''===
'''Voice actor:''' [[Garry Chalk]] (US)

The original Megatron made three apperences (four if you count the scene removed from "Nemesis") in the Beast Wars TV series. He first appeared in a flashback in "The Agenda" inscribing a message on the [[Golden Disk]]. His second apperence, also from "Agenda", was in the message itself. The Third apperence, in "Master Blaster", Megatron was shown offline in the [[Ark]] as [[Megatron (BW)]] takes his spark. A fourth apperence, which showed [[Optimus Primal (BW)|Optimus Primal]] returning the Decepticon leader's spark to his body, was removed because of time constraints but was included as an easter egg in [[Kid Rhino|Rhino's]] Beast Wars Season 3 box set.

Also, in Hasbro/Kenner's original plans, Beast Wars Megatron (Basic and Ultra forms) was supposed to be Generation 1 Megatron in a new body, which is supported by the tech specs.

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
*'''Megatron'''
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''16'''
:Megatron was released in 1984 as part of the first year of the ''Transformers'' line in the United States. It transformed into a Walther P-38 pistol, as seen in the popular 1960s spy television series ''The Man from U.N.C.L.E.'', with attachments. It was originally released in [[Takara]]'s [[Microman]] toyline as "MC13 Gun Robo - P38 U.N.C.L.E." The Japanese release, however, didn't come with the attachments.

:Megatron was also redecoed (red became blue, and flat grey was used instead of chrome, one of the Microman decos for the standard P-38) in the Japanese VS-X giftset with Optimus Prime.

:He was again released in the VS-X deco with Starscream in the Good-Bye Megatron set. This time, he came with his fusion cannon.

*'''Galvatron'''
:''See [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]''

*'''Megatron (Action Master)'''
:Megatron returned as an [[Action Master]] in 1990. This non-transformable version of Megatron came packaged with the [[Neutro-Fusion Tank]].

*'''Reissues'''
:In 2001, Megatron was reissued in Japan, and came with all of the American and Japanese accessories. A black redeco (the other standard P-38 Microman deco) was released the same year as a BotCon Japan exclusive.

:Megatron was again reissued in 2002 in Takara's Transformer Collection series. This release was identical to the previous reissue, but came with the mace used in the episode "[[More Than Meets the Eye, Part 2]]", a sheet of Decepticon stickers, and a Decepticon mouse pad.

*'''World's Smallest'''
:World's Smallest Megatron was released in 2004, coming with only his fusion cannon. His other attachments were planed to be released, but were scraped. A VS-X homage set was also released the same year.

===Generation 2===
*'''Megatron'''
:Owing to the inability of Hasbro to re-release the original Megatron toy (in keeping with the usual pattern for early G2 figures) because that toy was a pistol, Megatron was released as a large green tank with electronic sounds and a voice chip.

*'''Hero Megatron'''
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''TRF-2'''
:Megatron was released again the following year as "Hero" Megatron: a smaller, but essentially similar tank. This Megatron was purple and came with a bellows that fired an air-propelled missile.

*'''Megatron''' (Go-Bot)
:Megatron was released in a third form, "Go-Bot" Megatron. This was a minor repaint of the previously released [[Blowout (G2)|Blowout]] mold.

*Unreleased
:In addition to these, Megatron had a few unreleased toys in the G2 line. The first was the Megatron ATB (with Starscream), a recolor of the [[Dreadwing (G2|Dreadwing]] mold. The Beast Wars II [[BB]] and [[Starscream (BWII)|Starscream]] used the same deco, but had diffrent stickers. A second toy was a recolor of the Hero mold in a grey deco with black camoflauge stripes. The third toy was the flip changer used in 1997 as [[Machine Wars]] Megatron and [[Megaplex (MW)]].

===Machine Wars===
* Megatron
: This toy was redecoed from an unreleased Generation 2 flipchanger Megatron.
: Oddly, all on-package art and pictures show Megatron as a grey jet with [[Megaplex]] as the blue jet, the opposite of the actual toys. Like most other toys in the line, the boxart was recycled from an earlier figure, in this case from the [[Predator]] [[Falcon (G1)|Falcon]].

===Robot Masters===
* Reverse Convoy
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''RM-24'''

===Titanium===
*'''Megatron'''
:The Titanium Megatron toy was inspired by Dreamwave's first ''G.I. Joe'' crossover set in World War II. Since that Megatron's gun form was nonviable as a toy, a "tweaked-out" Maus tank alternate mode was designed. The backstory of the Megatron from the crossover, including references to Cobra, was retained on the package, make it the first US figure ever produced as part of a ''G.I. Joe / TransFormers'' crossover.

*'''War Within Megatron'''
:A new Megatron titanium based on his War Within design was shown at [[Botcon 2006]]. Commensts from designers [[Don Figueroa]] suggest that this may be released in a 2-pack with a War Within Optimus whose joints have been corrected from the original release.

===Classics===
[[Image:Megatronclassicstoy.jpg|right|thumb|100px|Paint me black and give me to a kid, ASAP.]]
*'''Megatron''' (Voyager, 2006)
:This Megatron is a "fusion blaster" based loosely on the original Megatron toy and inspired by the Nerf N-Strike Maverick blaster. Its scope/arm cannon houses a working crosshairs and its trigger includes clicking action. In order to pass modern safety regulations (both the government's and Hasbro's), his blaster mode includes lots of purple and green, plus bright orange on both the tip of the "barrel" and the scope.

:Although some official Hasbro photographs, including those appearing on the toy's packaging, show the gun mode's trigger and other small parts as being orange, those parts were gray in later stock photography and the final release.

:In these above mentioned early promotional photographs, Megatron also had noticeably different "eyebrow" paint applications that matched those of the original Megatron toy. These were two small black triangles on a gray plastic forehead. The final release has the placement of the black reversed, with two small gray triangles and a black forehead, sometimes referred to as Megatron's "unibrow" by fans.

*'''Optimus Prime vs Megatron: The Ultimate Battle''' (Deluxe versus set, 2006)
: The Megatron included in this two-pack is a tank inspired by the first Megatron toy from ''Generation 2''. Instead of a right hand, his arm ends in a blade with "spinning dervish action." He comes packaged with Optimus Prime and a "[[The Ultimate Battle]]" DVD.

===Merchandise===

==External links==
* [http://www.toybin.org/search.php?q=1984+Decepticon+Megatron ToyBin Megatron Toy Gallery]
* [http://tfu.info/1984/Decepticon/Megatron/megatron.htm Megatron at TFU.info]

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Siren (G1)

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{{disambig2|Siren the [[Headmaster]]|Sireen the [[Micromaster]]|Sireen}}

:''Siren is an [[Autobot]] in the [[Generation One]] continuity family.''

'''Siren''''s voice modulator goes to eleven - and stays there. Thanks to his ear-splitting upbringing in the [[Sonic Canyons]], he operates at full volume all the time. While this may annoy his pals [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] and [[Hosehead]], it drives his partner [[Quig]] nuts. Eventually, Quig's efforts to teach Siren about the concept of an 'indoor voice' may succeed, but for now Siren doesn't really listen to him - either because he can't hear him, or because he doesn't ''want'' to.

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===

===Television commercials===

===Dreamwave comics continuity===

===IDW comics continuity===

==Toys==
===Generation 1===

==Trivia==
*Siren was originally conceived as either an upgrade or homage to [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]]. While the robot mode was largely blue unlike Red Alert, it featured a similar head to the early Autobot. The car mode featured a near carbon copy of Red Alert's paint scheme. The Red Alert references were dropped early in the design process.

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1988/Autobot/Siren/Siren.htm Nightbeat at TFU.info]

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Siren (G1)

2006-09-06T05:34:49Z

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[[Siren is this memorable.]]

:''Siren is an [[Autobot]] in the [[Generation One]] continuity family.''

'''Siren''' is a small Headmaster who hangs around with [[Nightbeat]] and [[Hosehead]] for kicks.

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===

===Television commercials===

===Dreamwave comics continuity===

===IDW comics continuity===

==Toys==
===Generation 1===

==Trivia==
*Siren was originally conceived as either an upgrade or homage to [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]]. While the robot mode was largely blue unlike Red Alert, it featured a similar head to the early Autobot. The car mode featured a near carbon copy of Red Alert's paint scheme. The Red Alert references were dropped early in the design process.

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1988/Autobot/Siren/Siren.htm Nightbeat at TFU.info]

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