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Talk:Transformers Animated (toyline)

2008-04-29T22:32:18Z

70.190.251.10: /* eBay Animated Madness */

I've just gotta say, I love that caption on the voyager prime pic.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 13:41, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
==Price Points and Sub-lines?==
So, I see Deluxe, Voyager, and Leader price points. I see an "[[Activators]]" sub-line. What's their schtick? Is "Roll-Out Command" a sub-line, or just a unique Optimus toy filling his Leder-class gap? I assume "Legends" and "Scout" will still exist? [[User:JW|JW]] 14:34, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:"Activators" are the renamed "Fast Action Battlers" if I recall. Toyline for younger kids.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 14:55, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::Not quite that, though they sort of fill the same niche. FABs are chunkier versions with simpler transformations and spring-loaded missile gimmicks. Activators are chunkier, simpler versions with one-touch, spring-loaded transformations and no other gimmicks (as far as I can tell). So far, the "Roll-Out Command" OP does appear to be unique in having that title.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 15:30, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::I think the Activators are also Basic-sized, unless the guy in the video Thy took has HUGE hands. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:55, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Hasbro's site calls the activators "scout-scaled" toys. They will also release a handheld video game type thing ''and'' the OP battle-rig gun as Animated prime. Also, the new movie legends figures, combined with the universe's announced legends-class figures, make it seem inevitable it will include legends, and quite possibily robot heroes (even though the other '08 property ''[[Crossovers (toyline)|Transformers: Crossovers]]'' has no evidence of either of the last to sublines).--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 21:13, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

== Release Date: March 25? ==

So, there's [http://www.seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=12606 a news report] over on Seibertron.com saying that the first wave of Transformer Animated toys will be out next week. Anyone know if this is true? [[User:JW|JW]] 19:03, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Maybe someone should correct the "To be released in June" bit, since some of the toys are officially out in the US now by the sounds of it?
Anyone know what the UK release date is? [[User:Shadow Mask Prime|Shadow Mask Prime]] 17:26, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

==SkyWarp Voyager?==
Just noticed that SkyWarp seems to have been added to the Voyager list. Is that Official, or someone doing some eduacated guesses?
I'm guessing that this is something that could quite easily have just been revealled at BotCon, but I just wanted to be sure.[[User:Shadow Mask Prime|Shadow Mask Prime]] 17:26, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
:As of BotCon, it is now confirmed.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 18:17, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

==eBay Animated Madness==
Just wondering. Should we include a small paragraph about the way the Animated Line toys have been appearing on eBay for several Months before their official release, en mass; and how Hasbro is now taking legal action against these sellers? I don't have a source for the latter, other than a friend buying them on eBay, and after the last couple he brought and paid for, he got an email form the seller saying he had had to cancel the remaining auctions, and he didn't have to pay if he didn't want to; due to some warning he had received (though he had already paid, and they arrived, and Grimlock is awesome.... Gaaahhh! I want a UK release date!).[[User:Shadow Mask Prime|Shadow Mask Prime]] 17:40, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
:If we can get some more info (like a copy of the C&D letters Hasbro is sending out), this would be worth mentioning, sure, either here or in the [[eBay]] article. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:43, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
::The only toys sellers recieved warnings for were the Botcon ones. It's likely that your seller assumed the warning counted for Animated as well. [[User:Rhinox555|Decepticon Rhinox]] 21:37, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm not aware of Hasbro itself sending out warnings to sellers (or atleast no one's stepped forward), looks like it's just Brian Savage. Ryan from Seibertron.com had an auction for a prototype Bulkhead removed from eBay at Hasbro's request, but they didn't contact him personally. eBay just sent him a form letter saying the auction violated someone's intellectual property, and told him he couldn't sell that there. --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 22:32, 29 April 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Beast Wars II (toyline)

2008-04-28T16:13:09Z

70.190.251.10:

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The Japan-exclusive '''''Beast Wars II''''' toy-line took and mostly redecoed already-existing molds from previous toy lines, such as ''[[Beast Wars (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'', ''[[Generation 2]]'', and even Generation 1. Only three characters received new toy molds: [[Moon (BWII)|Moon]], [[Lio Convoy]] and [[Galvatron (BWII)|Galvatron]].

==Cybertrons==
:For the most part, the regular Cybertrons for the ''Beast Wars II'' line were repaints of ''Beast Wars'' figures which did not have characterizations in the show. In this category, only the Cybertron leader, [[Lio Convoy]], received a newly designed figure.

*'''[[Apache]]''' (Mega, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-12''', '''VS-12'''
: This toy is identical to [[B'Boom]], transforming into a mandrill. His beast mode face has spring-activated features, with a spring-loaded missile launcher in his mouth. This launcher becomes a hand-held weapon in robot mode. He has a third "artillery station" mode that a Basic-sized toy can pilot. He was available both as an individual and in a two-pack with [[Megastorm]].

: A special contest-prize version of Apache in a kind of camo-green was given away as a prize from ''[[Comic Bom Bom |Comic Bom Bom magazine]]'', as part of a "design a Cybertron" contest, along with new-color versions of all five main Maximals from the series. How many of these Apaches were awarded is unknown.

*'''[[Bighorn]]''' (Deluxe, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-13''', '''VS-13'''
: This toy is a black and red redeco of [[Bonecrusher (BW)|Bonecrusher]], transforming into a bison. The robot mode face has spring-activated features, with a spring-loaded missile launcher in his mouth. This launcher becomes a hand-held weapon in robot mode. He has a third "artillery station" mode that a Basic-sized toy can pilot. He was available both as an individual and in a three-pack with [[Starscream (BWII)|Starscream]] and [[BB]].

: A special contest-prize version of Bighorn in a gray-blue and yellow was given away as a prize from ''Comic Bom Bom magazine'', as part of a "design a Cybertron" contest.

*'''[[Tasmania Kid]]''' (Basic, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-14''', '''VS-14'''
: This toy is near identical to the ''Beast Wars'' [[Snarl (BW)|Snarl]] figure and transforms into a Tasmanian devil. The toy has a 'lock and launch' gimmick which works by setting and then pulling on the figure's tail. The figure was also available in a two-pack with the Destron [[Dirge (BWII)|Dirge]].

: A special contest-prize version of Tasmania Kid in a blue and yellow color scheme was given away as a prize from ''Comic Bom Bom'' magazine, as part of a "design a Cybertron" contest.

*'''[[Scuba]]''' (Basic, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-15''', '''VS-15'''
:This toy is identical to the ''Beast Wars'' [[Claw Jaw]] toy, and sports a 'claw grabber' gimmick. The figure was also available in a two-pack with the Destron [[Thrust (BWII)|Thrust]].

: A special contest-prize version of Scuba in an orange and soft pink color scheme was given away as a prize from ''Comic Bom Bom'' magazine, as part of a "design a Cybertron" contest.

*'''[[Lio Convoy]]''' (Ultra, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-16''', '''VS-16'''
:Lio Convoy transforms into an organic white lion articulated at the legs and head. In this mode, he possesses flip-out blades and missile launchers in his mane and forelegs. The mane can also spin around as 'spinning blade' attack. The robot mode of the figure strongly resembles the original Optimus Prime, including an 'Energon Matrix' sculpted beneath his left chest panel. The figure was also available in a two-pack with Galvatron.

: A special contest-prize version of Lio Convoy in a red and black color scheme was given away as a prize from ''Comic Bom Bom'' magazine, as part of a "design a Cybertron" contest.

:Black Lio Convoy was released as a Japanese Toys 'R' Us exclusive. And, yes, it was an 'evil clone' of the Cybertron Leader.

:Flash Lio Convoy was released later as a 'powered-up' repaint, replacing the usual white plastic with a pearl version and using yellow and gold in place of the regular figure's blue and red colors.

:Galvatron Lio Convoy was a special 'Lucky Draw' prize exclusive which saw the figure repainted into Galvatron's lavender and purple color scheme.

:A gold-chromed version of the figure was also made available as a 'Lucky Draw' extremely rare exclusive.

*'''[[Diver (BWII)|Diver]]''' (Special, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''X-2'''
:Diver is a green and white redeco of ''Beast Wars'' [[Spittor]] figure. The toy has a 'spitting tongue' gimmick (which has his robot mode head unfortunately placed at the tip of it). Diver was included with a 'Niagara Falls Base' playset.

: A special contest-prize version of Diver in a pink and teal color scheme was given away as a prize from ''Comic Bom-Bom'' magazine, as part of a "design a Cybertron" contest.

*'''[[Ikard]]''' (Special, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''X-5'''
:The toy is a blue and cream redeco of [[Claw Jaw]] and transforms into a squid. Both robot and beast modes make use of a 'claw grabber' gimmick, housed in the robot mode's chest. The toy was available with the [[Tako Tank]], a larger vehicle-squid toy that could convert into a base mode.

*'''[[Moon (BWII)|Moon]]''' (Special, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''S-2'''
:Moon's original release was of a 'kawaii' robotic rabbit, based on the character from the anime, but colored in yellow.

:''Comic Bom-Bom'' released its own exclusive recolor of Moon, with white as the dominant toy color, to more closely match his appearance in the anime series.

==Insectrons==
:The seven Insectrons are each redecorated figures from the Beast Wars toy line, using toys that did not get characterizations in the ''Beast Wars'' television series.

*'''[[Bigmos]]''' (Mega, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-17''', '''X-17'''
: This toy is a brown, red, and teal redeco of ''Beast Wars'' [[Transquito]]. The figure retains the 'missile-mouth/stinger' gimmick. It was available both individually and in a two-pack with his arch-rival, [[Autostinger]].

*'''[[Powerhug]]''' (Deluxe, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-18''', '''X-18'''
: This toy is a blue, white, and red redeco of ''Beast Wars'' [[Retrax]]. The figure retains the 'deadly hug/pill-bug roll' gimmick. It was available both individually and in a two-pack with his arch-rival, [[Autocrusher]].

*'''[[Tonbot]]''' (Deluxe, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-19''', '''X-19'''
: This toy is a red and green redeco of ''Beast Wars'' [[Jetstorm]]. The figure retains the 'missile launcher' gimmick. It was available both individually and in a two-pack with his arch-rival, [[Autojetter]].

*'''[[Mantis]]''' (Deluxe, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-20''', '''X-20'''
: This toy is a green and blue minor redeco of ''Beast Wars'' [[Manterror]]. The figure retains the 'disc launcher' gimmick. It was available both individually and in a two-pack with his arch-rival, [[Autolauncher]].

*'''[[Drill Nuts]]''' (Basic, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-21'''
: This toy is a bronze redeco of ''Beast Wars'' [[Drill Bit (BW)|Drill Bit]]. The figure retains the 'drill arm' gimmick, as well as Drill Bit's defective leg-peg placement.

*'''[[Scissorboy]]''' (Basic, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-22'''
:Scissorboy is virtually identical to the [[Powerpinch]] figure. The figure has a 'claw' gimmick for its weapon.

==Jointrons==
:The Jointrons are redecos of the three members of the [[Tripredacus]] team from Beast Wars. Unlike their American counterparts, the Jointrons were sold individually as well as in a gift set.

*'''[[DJ]]''' (Basic, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-23'''
:DJ is a redeco of [[Cicadacon]], and turns into a cicada. Its notable redeco is the addition of blue-violet stripes on the top side of the insect mode. The figure forms the chest and head of Tripledacus.

*'''[[Motor_Arm|Motorarm]]''' (Basic, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-24'''
:Motorarm is a black and red redeco of ''Beast Wars'' [[Ram Horn (BW)|Ram Horn]], and turns into a dung beetle. It also forms the arms of Tripledacus.

*'''[[Gimlet]]''' (Deluxe, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-25'''
:Motorarm is a predominantly red redeco of [[Sea Clamp]], and turns into a crawfish. It also forms the waist and legs of Tripledacus.

*'''[[Tripledacus]]''' (Ultra, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''X-3'''
:Tripledacus is a redeco of [[Tripredacus]], sold in a gift set containing the Jointron team members Gimlet, Motorarm, and DJ.

==Magnaboss==
:The Magnaboss team are redecos of the three members of the [[Magnaboss]] team from ''Beast Wars''. Unlike their American counterparts, members of this Magnaboss team were sold individually as well as a gift set.

*'''[[Lio Junior]]''' (Basic, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-26'''
: This toy is redeco of ''Beast Wars'' [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], with a notable change being the blue-painted head, making him more reminiscent of Optimus Prime. The beast form is a Lion, and the figure also forms the main body and head of Magnaboss.

:Lio Junior also enjoyed an exclusive Red and Black redeco as well as a white redeco included in Takara puzzle-kits. Both could still be used to form the main body of Magnaboss.

*'''[[Skywarp_(BWII)|Skywarp]]''' (Basic, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-27'''
:Skywarp is a slight repaint of ''Beast Wars'' [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]], with the most notable change being the silver-paint on the otherwise brown helmet. The toy has launchable missiles stowed in the wings, transforms into a bald eagle, and forms the chest and torso of Magnaboss.

*'''[[Santon]]''' (Deluxe, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-28'''
:Santon is a darker redeco of ''Beast Wars'' [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]], with a few more painted-on trim decorations on the main body. The figure transforms into an elephant and also the arms and legs of Magnaboss.

*'''[[Magnaboss II|Magnaboss]]''' (Ultra, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''X-4'''
:This is a gift-set of the three Magnaboss team members. It is largely identical to the American release, with the exception of the slightly darker shades from Ironhide and the additional painted details on the chest.

==Destrons==
The Destrons of the ''Beast Wars II'' line primarily relied on releases dating from the ''[[Generation 2]]'' toy line. Megastorm, Starscream, and BB are all redecos of toys first seen in ''Generation 2''. Thrust and Dirge were made from the ''[[Machine Wars]]'' [[Flipchanger]] Jets, which were toys originally meant for ''Generation 2''. Only Galvatron would get an original toy made for him.

*'''[[Megastorm]]''' (Ultra, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-12''', '''VS-12'''
:Megastorm is slight redeco of the large [[Megatron]] tank from the ''Generation 2'' toy line. He has darkened eyes and a slightly different sticker assortment. The toy retains the launching missile gimmick, but loses the electronics found in the earlier toy. The toy was released individually or as a two-pack with the Cybertron [[Apache]].

:In Korea and Indonesia, Megastorm was also released as a [[Decepticon]] in the [[Car_Robots|Car Robots]] line as a Decepticon-styled Destron.

*'''[[Starscream (BWII)|Starscream]] and [[BB]]''' (Ultra, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-13''', '''VS-13'''
:Starscream and BB are black and purple redecos of the ''Generation 2'' figures [[Dreadwing_(G2)|Dreadwing]] and [[Smokescreen_(G2)|Smokescreen]], respectively. The smaller jet, Starscream, has two missile launcher guns and can link up with the larger stealth bomber 'BB' to form a more 'complete' jet mode. 'BB' has a Gatling missile cannon which can fire six missiles in quick seccesion as well as a number of 'bomb ports' which can drop missiles straight down from jet mode. Lastly, BB is also capable of assuming a 'Cybertronic Tank' mode, which uses the Gatling launcher as its turret.

:The two figures were sold together or also in a three-pack which also included the Cybertron [[Bighorn]].

:The colors used for this version of the mold are similar to the ones planned for Generation 2 [[Megatron_(G1)|Megatron]]'s ATB release. The stickers, of course, are wildly different.

:The smaller jet toy is intended to be 'Starscream', but the stickers placed on the toy have him misspelled as 'Starcream'. The correct spelling is used on the package and instructions, however.

*'''[[Dirge (BWII)|Dirge]] (Basic, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-14''', '''VS-14'''
:Dirge is a redeco of the ''Machine Wars'' Thundercracker/Skywarp mold, transforming from a Dassault Rafale fighter jet to robot mode with a spring-loaded one-step transformation. The two halves of his "Dirge Gun" rifle store in the back of his robot-mode legs. The figure was sold individually or as a two-pack with his supposed rival, [[Tasmania Kid]].

*'''[[Thrust (BWII)|Thrust]] (Basic, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-15''', '''VS-15'''
:Thrust is a redeco of the ''Machine Wars'' Megatron mold, transforming from a Lockheed-Martin F-22 Raptor fighter jet to robot mode with a spring-loaded one-step transformation. The two halves of his "Thrust Gun" rifle store in the back of his robot-mode legs. The figure was sold individually or as a two-pack with his supposed rival, [[Scuba]].

*'''[[Galvatron (BWII)|Galvatron]]''' (Ultra, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-16''', '''VS-16'''
:Galvatron transforms into a technological lavender dragon or into a heavily armed mining drill tank. The toy has firing missile weapons and a large 'grabber claw' gimmick made of the dragon's leg. The robot mode, particularly the head, has a passing resemblance to [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] of Beast Wars. the toy was sold individually and as part of a gift set which included [[Lio Convoy]].

: A special contest-prize version of Galvatron in Lio Convoy's white and red color scheme was given away as a contest prize from ''Comic Bom-Bom'' magazine.

:Both a gold-chromed version and silver-chromed version of the figure was also made available as a 'Lucky Draw' extremely rare exclusive.

:An orange and gray redeco of the figure was planed as Galvatron's final upgrade with [[Unicron]]'s essence for ''[[Beast Wars Neo]]'', but was never released. (The character, in this form, did appear in the show, however.)

==Autorollers==
:The Autorollers figures are redecos of the [[Autoroller]]s from the ''[[Generation 2]]'' line, including two figures that were not previously released. All four Autorollers were released as Destrons.

:In Korea and Indonesia, the Autorollers also released as [[Decepticons]] in the ''[[Car Robots]]'' line.

*'''[[Autostinger]]''' (Deluxe, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-17''', '''VS-17'''
:Autostinger is a yellow and orange green redeco of the ''Generation 2'' [[Dirtbag (G2)|Dirtbag]] figure and transforms into a heavy loader dump trickshovel. The figure both automatically transforms and has a 'missile-firing' gimmick. The toy was also sold in a two-pack with the Insectron Bigmos.

*'''[[Autocrusher]]''' (Deluxe, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-18''', '''VS-18'''
:Autocrusher is a green and dark green redeco of the ''Generation 2'' [[Roadblock (G2)|Roadblock]] figure and transforms into a heavy construction shovel. The figure both automatically transforms and has a 'disc-shooting' gimmick. The toy was also sold in a two-pack with the Insectron Powerhug.

*'''[[Autojetter]]''' (Deluxe, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-19''', '''VS-19'''
:Autojetter is a gray and blue F-18 variant in vehicle mode. The figure both automatically transforms and has a 'missile-firing' gimmick. The toy was also sold in a two-pack with the Insectron Tonbot.

*'''[[Autolauncher]]''' (Deluxe, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-20''', '''VS-20'''
:Autolauncher is a red and white APC variant in vehicle mode. The figure both automatically transforms and has a 'disc-launcher' gimmick. The toy was also sold in a two-pack with the Insectron Mantis.

==Space Pirate Seacons==
The Seacons are a combining group of five 'aquatic' beats that can merge into the giant warrior 'God Neptune'. The figures are redecos of the [[Seacon (G1)|Seacon]]s from Generation 1, though without the pieces for the 'small targetmaster' gimmicks or without [[Nautilator (G1)|Nautilator]], who never gets any love anyway.

*'''[[God Neptune]]''' (Ultra, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-21'''
:The Seacons were only sold as a gift set of the five members that comprise him. Instead of [[Piranacon]]'s pastel blues and pinks, God Neptune is primarily colored in pearl, with gold, silver, and teal highlights.

*'''[[Halfshell]]'''
:Halfshell is a white, teal, and gold recolor of the Seacon [[Snaptrap (G1)|Snaptrap]]. The toy can transform into a robotic snapping turtle with 'pom-pom' guns on its back, or form the main body of God Neptune. Despite rumors to the contrary, Halfshell is not related to the Pokemon, Blastoise.

*'''[[Sea Phantom]]'''
:Sea Phantom is a white and gray recolor of the Seacon [[Overbite (G1)|Overbite]]. The figure can transform into a robotic shark creature or limb of God Neptune. The toy lacks the 'Targetmaster' accessories to allow him to convert to gun mode, however.

*'''[[Terrormander]]'''
:Sometimes also called 'Terrormanta', this figure is a gray, white, and gold redeco of the Seacon [[Seawing (G1)|Seawing]]. The figure can transform into a robotic manta creature or limb of God Neptune. The toy lacks the 'Targetmaster' accessories to allow him to convert to gun mode, however.

*'''[[Coelagon]]'''
:This figure is a gray, white, and gold redeco of the Seacon [[Skalor]]. The figure can transform into a robotic coelecanth creature or limb of God Neptune. The toy lacks the 'Targetmaster' accessories to allow him to convert to gun mode, however.

*'''[[Scylla]]'''
:Sea Phantom is a white, gray and red recolor of the Seacon [[Tentakil (G1)|Tentakil]]. The figure can transform into a robotic squid creature or limb of God Neptune. The toy lacks the 'Targetmaster' accessories to allow her to convert to gun mode, however.

:Scylla is the only ''Beast Wars II'' character to get a toy to be presented as a female consistently through all its promotional material.

==Cyborg Beasts==
:The Cyborg Beasts were the final toys released for the ''Beast Wars II'' line. The toys were each heavily retooled versions of older toys (mostly from ''Beast Wars''), designed to make them look like monstrous fusions of standard ''Beast Wars'' designs and technological robots. Each toy was presented as an 'upgrade' to one of the original ''Beast Wars II'' Destrons.

*'''[[Megastorm|Gigastorm]]''' (Ultra, 1998)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-22'''

:Gigastorm is a partial [[retool]] and redeco of Generation 1's [[Trypticon]]. The 'new' toy adds a dino-mode nose-horn and removes the metal ball-bearings from the outsides of the legs. The toy also gains a number of 'detailing' paint-applications, but losses nearly all of Trypticon's weapons and accessories, as well as his electronics.

:Fortunately, Gigastorm does come with [[Gigascouter]], a purple redeco of [[Full-Tilt]], to keep him from getting lonely.

*'''[[Starscream_(BWII)|Hellscream]]''' (Deluxe, 1998)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-23'''
:Hellscream is Starscream's 'powered-up' form, a cyborg-shark. The toy is a dramatic retooling of [[Cybershark]], now in a green and dark teal color scheme. Despite the retooling, Hellscream retains Cybershark's weapon gimmick.

*'''[[BB|Max-B]]''' (Deluxe, 1998)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-24'''
:Max-B is BB's 'powered-up' form, a cyborg-hound. The toy is a dramatic retooling of [[Wolfang (Maximal)|Wolfang]], now in a gray, purple, and lavender scheme. Despite the retooling, Max-B retains Wolfang's weapon gimmick.

*'''[[Dirge (BWII)|Dirgegun]]''' (Deluxe, 1998)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-25'''
:Dirgegun is Dirge's 'powered-up' form, a cyborg-wasp. The toy is a dramatic retooling of [[Waspinator]], now in a blue and gray scheme. Despite the retooling, Dirgegun retains Waspinator's weapon gimmick.

*'''[[Thrust (BWII)|Thrustor]]''' (Deluxe, 1998)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-26'''
:Also called 'Thrustol', Thrustor is Thrust's 'powered-up' form, a cyborg-raptor. The toy is a dramatic retooling of ''Beast Wars'' [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]], now in an orange and black scheme. Despite the retooling, Thrustor retains Dinobot's weapon gimmick.

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User talk:AutobotFreak643

2008-04-27T03:25:58Z

70.190.251.10: New page: ==Sixshot Caption== The quote is from Monty Python. Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition. --~~~~

==Sixshot Caption==
The quote is from Monty Python. Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition. --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 03:25, 27 April 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

User talk:Rosicrucian

2008-04-25T03:37:10Z

70.190.251.10: /* Bumper Battler Jazz */ There we go. Me am smart.

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== The Sumdac Systems logo ==

Thanks for modding my file - it looks better with the white background

== Premium OP pic ==
Ok, I replaced it and re-uploaded it. It is now Image:Premium_movie_OP.jpg.

Thanks for pointing me to that page!--[[User:Skyglide|Skyglide]] 20:49, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

== Bumper Battler Jazz ==
It exists. Hasbro updated their website. [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/default.cfm?page=News/Item&newsid=809F172F-D56F-E112-4586B28291BB15B5 Here's a link] --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 03:27, 25 April 2008 (UTC) ... Which doesn't work. Damn. --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 03:28, 25 April 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Transformers Animated (toyline)

2008-04-25T03:33:03Z

70.190.251.10: /* Bumper Battlers */ Hasbro news update from Botcon

{{Nav-Animated}}

[[Image:TFAnimated_Voyager_EarthOptimusPrime_toy.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Putting the "cool" in "[[Playskool]]".]]
The '''Transformers Animated''' toy line merges the more expressive design style of the [[Transformers Animated|cartoon]] with extremely poseable robot forms (to a degree which seemed pleasantly surprising even to [[Hasbro]]). Unlike the [[franchise]]s immediately before it, there is no overarching, line-wide [[gimmick]] (such as [[Mini-Con]]s or [[Cyber Planet Key]]s). Rather, transforming ''is'' the gimmick, and the toys have other special features unique and appropriate to the character (such as [[Blitzwing (Animated)|triple-changing]] or [[Ratchet (Animated)|interchangeable tools]]). While the designs originated with Hasbro and the [[Cartoon Network]] team, [[TakaraTomy]] stepped up to the plate to engineer the toys. The line debuted on July 1, 2007, at Hasbro's Future Products panel at [[BotCon 2007|BotCon]].

Hasbro has, citing the strength of the [[Transformers (2007)|movie]] toyline, [[Ruined FOREVER|postponed]] the release of the Animated toyline to June 2008 in the US.

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==Size classes==
The core toys of this franchise will be available at most of the traditional [[size class]]es. They are listed here with examples from each.

===Deluxe===

* [[Blackarachnia (Animated)#Toys|Blackarachnia]]
* [[Bumblebee (Animated)#Toys|Bumblebee]]
* [[Jazz (Animated)#Toys|Jazz]]
* [[Lockdown #Toys|Lockdown]]
* [[Oil Slick (Animated)#Toys|Oil Slick]]
* [[Optimus Prime (Animated)#Toys|Cybertron Mode Optimus Prime]]
* [[Optimus Prime (Animated)#Toys|Optimus Prime vs. Megatron: The Battle Begins]]
* [[Prowl (Animated)#Toys|Prowl]]
* [[Ratchet (Animated)#Toys|Ratchet]]
* [[Snarl (Animated)#Toys|Snarl]]
* [[Soundwave (Animated)#Toys|Soundwave]]
* [[Swoop (Animated)#Toys|Swoop]]

===Voyager===

* [[Blitzwing (Animated)#Toys|Blitzwing]]
* [[Bulkhead (Animated)#Toys|Bulkhead]]
* [[Grimlock (Animated)#Toys|Grimlock]]
* [[Lugnut#Toys|Lugnut]]
* [[Megatron (Animated)#Toys|Cybertron Mode Megatron]]
* Earth Mode Optimus Prime
* [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]]
* [[Starscream (Animated)#Toys|Starscream]]

===Leader===

* Bulkhead
* Earth Mode Megatron
* [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)#Toys|Ultra Magnus]]

===Supreme===

* Roll-Out Command Optimus Prime
* Omega Supreme

Toys in the low-end Legends and Scout classes will presumably also be available, but details are not available as yet.

==Activators==

The [[Activator]]s subcategory consists of chunkier, simpler, Scout-class-sized toys with one-touch, spring-loaded transformations.
* Bulkhead
* Bumblebee
* Lockdown
* Optimus Prime
* Ratchet
* Starscream

==Bumper Battlers==

An expansion on the [[Cyber Slammers]] subline from the 2007 live-action movie toys, Bumper Battlers feature "bump-and-transform" action. Hitting the front bumper causes the toy to change into robot mode, and pressing the toy's sigil activates sound effects and speech gimmicks.
* Bumblebee
* Optimus Prime
* Ratchet
* Jazz

==Others==

[[Bumblebee (Animated)#Toys|Bumblebee]] will be available in a non-transforming "Animated Power Bots" version, in the style of the [[Movie (toyline) #Cyber Stompin' Robots|Cyber Stompin']] Bumblebee and Optimus from the 2007 live-action movie.

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== The Sumdac Systems logo ==

Thanks for modding my file - it looks better with the white background

== Premium OP pic ==
Ok, I replaced it and re-uploaded it. It is now Image:Premium_movie_OP.jpg.

Thanks for pointing me to that page!--[[User:Skyglide|Skyglide]] 20:49, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

== Bumper Battler Jazz ==
It exists. Hasbro updated their website. [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/default.cfm?page=News/Item&newsid=809F172F-D56F-E112-4586B28291BB15B5| Here's a link] --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 03:27, 25 April 2008 (UTC) ... Which doesn't work. Damn. --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 03:28, 25 April 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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Thanks for modding my file - it looks better with the white background

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Ok, I replaced it and re-uploaded it. It is now Image:Premium_movie_OP.jpg.

Thanks for pointing me to that page!--[[User:Skyglide|Skyglide]] 20:49, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

== Bumper Battler Jazz ==
It exists. Hasbro updated their website. [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/default.cfm?page=News/Item&newsid=809F172F-D56F-E112-4586B28291BB15B5| Here's a link] --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 03:27, 25 April 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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<span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:100px;line-height:100px;font-weight:900;">THE FUNNY STAYS.</span>
-The Management

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<span style="font-size:2em"><b>Please use this talk page for discussion about the [[Main Page]].

To discuss site-wide policies, please visit [[Transformers Wiki Talk:Community Portal|the Community Portal talk page]].</b></span>

==Archives==
*[[Talk:Main_Page/Archive1|Archive1]]
*[[Talk:Main_Page/Archive2|Archive2]]

== The Funny ==

Maybe if the stuff you said was funny, no one would have a problem with it, but most of the jokes on here are pretty lame, it's not about transformers fans being serious, it's about your jokes being bad. When other people try to put there humor in it, you erase it. Sooooo make the jokes funny and you wont have to worry about it. Besides the Real Wikipedia has more information on transformers than the one dedicated to transformers have, what gives. Maybe before you work on your lame jokes you can fill out the information on the article. Sorry just what I think about it, don't take to much offence. {{unsigned|67.140.110.210}}

:Humor is subjective. Pesonally, I consider most of the jokes on this site to be neutral. They are clearly trying to be silly, but neither funny nor painful. They merely lighten the tone. Users who show up here and do nothing but change jokes into different jokes are clearly not accomplishing anything. The new jokes are never any better -- they are merely different, and often worse. That is a waste of everybody's time. I haven't spent a lot of time browsing Transformers material on Wikipedia, but I highly doubt that their information is ''better'', even if there might be a larger quantity of it. What little I've seen there has been disorganized, mixes fan assertions with canon, and is at times not even reliable. ''If'' they have more information than we do, it is only because people have been adding TF info there for at least twice as long as this specialized wiki has existed. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:57, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

::Yep, this wiki is a far more reliable source of information for Transformers than the Wikipedia shall ever be. I've corrected some of their base assumptions and half-truths upon occassion. If we lack information for something, '''then feel free to contribute''' to our wiki or wait for one of us to get around to it. Really, what the Wikipedia offers is rather generalised information and (as steve-o points out) fan-assumed fanon and downright false information. Besides, we provide the Transformers info that the users on the wikipedia either don't know or won't bother with, such as info on the toys, their designers, toy construction materials, obscure series and/or characters and so on.
:: And yes, we think captioning a picture of say, Megatron with 'Art of Megatron' or some such is really patronising. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:00, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I, as a fellow Transformer fan, agree that "the funny" is lame.

One time I tried to change [[Nautilator]]'s bio; stating that he carries a powerful weapon, transforms INTO a powerful weapon, and is an undersea version of [[Constructicon]] [[Scavager]]. But none of that went through.

I'm sensing "the bias" here.

[http://www.geocities.com/tenou_clock/ Tyrenol]

:''I, as a fellow Transformer fan, agree that "the funny" is lame.''<br>
: Some of it is certainly very very lame. If you would like to raise the level of humor here, then A) become a regular and respected contributor of useful non-funny stuff, ''then'' B) improve the funny. What we most strongly object to is newcomers who contribute ''nothing'' except changes to the humor. Changing the funny is an earned privilege. [[User:JW|JW]] 19:44, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::'''Tyrenol:''' Your [[Nautilator (G1)|Nautilator]] bio was, as far as I can tell, at best [[fanon]] or at worst fan fiction. Steve-o (an admin) points out that your edit had nothing to do with the established Hasbro toy bio. Despite our humour and over-the-top references to a character's foibles, we base what we write on official material approved by Hasbro/Takara.

::That's not 'bias', that's the rules.

:::Okay, then. Here's another idea: How about you guys use the exact wording from the bios as oppose to just sticking stuff in and thinking that everyone else will agree with its hilariousness.

:::Besides; I have two problems with anything Wiki. 1) Things don't stay <b>changed</b> when they get changed. Annoyances like <b>needed citations</b> and <b>reliable sources</b> that have a problem staying reliable. 2) I have a life to live, a job to pay for where I live, and I really don't have the time to watch everything on the web like a cold-stare hawk.

:::My apologies for being new. My apologies for calling your jokes lame. But what is everybody doing on the web when they can't take the sharp, cold knife in the back that's called "criticism?" The same rules apply for me. [http://www.geocities.com/tenou_clock/ Tyrenol]

::::We have a specific policy AGAINST cut-and-pasting from bios, one of many reasons being that those are a) copyrighted and b) not always applicable. After all, Shockwave sure wasn't anything like his toy bio in the cartoon. Character overviews on this resource are "all-encompassing", in order to reflect changes and evolutions in the character. And what do you do when a character -like, say, Optimus Prime- has several dozen bios over the course of 20 years?
::::Maybe you should apologize for playing the "I have a life" card that screams "I have no actual argument so I'll imply you all are losers". And don't confuse "whinging" with "criticism", or "disagreeing with" as "can't take it". This argument has come up with many an anon IP who is more interested in fighting a long-established precedent for this wiki which has garnered far more positive attention than negative than they are in contributing, and if they didn't change thing one about it, neither will you. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]]

::As for humour being lame, let me ask you a question: Do you wander onto privately-run Tranformers fan sites and message boards, see something you don't like (that isn't necessarily offensive) and proceed to tell off the admins for how they run their website? Much of the reason the wiki is the way it is is because the people who run this wiki and the majority of regular contributors have a sense of humour. I find it odd that newcomers will question our policies as if they claim some sort of ownership over the wiki, yet have contributed little to it. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:24, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

:I'm a newcomer, but I have to admit that the policies regarding jokes ''prevent'' unfair bias, if anything. Additionally, it helps newcomers achieve a sense of ownership. Maybe we don't all get the lame obscure reference on [[Special:Random|whatever]] page, but whoever put it there probably thinks it's hilarious! Thanks to the established policies he/she doesn't need to worry about someone replacing it with another, equally-lame obscure reference. --[[User:Starcrunch|Starcrunch]] 19:05, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

::Make jokes and be merry. My message to any readers is if you get offended by jokes, then you take Transformers way too seriously :-D --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:01, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

:::haha... Transformers too seriously?! ''Only'' five of my nine open browser tabs are occupied with something Transformers related right now. If that's not moderation, then I don't know what is! ...but yes, if your reason for being put-off is a bent sense of humor, then you're probably in in the wrong place! --[[User:Starcrunch|Starcrunch]] 18:16, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I thought the Ladiesman217 article was funny. Needed some fixing for the caption with the police car. It's not funny.

When I read these articles for information, and some stupid joke gets thrown in, it really throws my thought process off. I'm sure it's that way for a lot of people too. Don't forget you're writing this for other people and it's not a good idea to screw with them, or whatever [[User:FartboyExtreme|FartboyExtreme]] 03:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:For every person that hates the joking and non-serious nature of the wiki, there's somebody else that loves it. If people can't hack the humour, well I'm sorry, but that's your problem. As for writing this for other people, I contribute to this wiki for the sheer pleasure of having fun with my stupid toy & cartoon hobby, not out of some obligation or duty to provide an encyclopedia for the fandom. As far as I am concerned, so long as we are accurate and detailed, we can also make light of our hobby. -[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:31, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
::I think there needs to be some rules on where the jokes can be. I personally don't mind them when they're in image captions and such, but I think in the middle of a paragraph isn't very appropriate. Know what I mean? [[User:FartboyExtreme|FartboyExtreme]] 21:01, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Could you provide an example of "middle of the paragraph" humor where you find it inappropriate?
:::Also, just a note: It's hard to take you seriously with that username. [[User:JW|JW]] 21:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
::::I think he's talking about things like my edits to [[Sparkplug Witwicky]]'s cartoon section where I said the Autobots saved the oil rig workers "from a death exactly the same as death", or references to characters freaking out.
::::As for establishing rules to prevent people from placing jokes within paragraphs, I highly doubt that will come to pass as most of the regular contributors and the administration staff write in this manner. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:28, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Seriously, people saying BAWWW WIKI NOT SERIOUS ENOUGH irritates the fuck out of me. I'm sorry our little collection of information about giant toy space robots isn't serious enough for you. Maybe you should go read a Serious Encyclopedia, like the one dedicated to Everything The Goddamn Ewoks Ever Did. That's a serious topic worthy of intense consideration, and it should be treated with the respect it deserves. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 13:49, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::People with names like ''FartboyExtreme'' complaining that the wiki isn't serious enough set off my bullshit meter something fierce.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 14:13, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::: That comment about writing this for other people really shit me up the wall. I was not aware I was doing this wiki as my job. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:07, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

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==Featured Article for October==

So...are we ever going to change the featured article? It's been Megatron for, like, two months now. [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] 03:58, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
:It depends on what the management thinks is complete enough in terms of length and content. I think Movie Prime's article should be given a go since October will be the month of the DVD release in the US and the article is more or less complete. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:14, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
:How about something other than a character page?--[[User:Zodberg|Zodberg]] 12:16, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
::I nominate Sector Seven, because the article is fairly thorough, references a lot of material, and will be useful to the fans directed here who liked the movie but haven't read all the minor, wacky background material. That article is still listed as a "Stub," though as with a great many "stubs" on this wiki I kind of don't see why. It could be made ''longer'', like all of them, but it's not like it's missing anything critical or is just a halfassed paragraph. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 14:33, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I think we should make articles for Rebecca Howard and Alexander Powers before we feature it, since they're pretty important to the ARG storyline, which, as you said, is the wacky background material 99% of people would never seen or heard of. Plus they're linked right at the start of the article. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:41, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

By the way when it comes doing the most wanted page list means I will do it but someone must back me up when I go do yardwork.(Spearhead 08:03, 7 October 2007 (UTC))

Sweet zombie Jesus, the Featured Article changed!!! I think I may faint! ...But one request: Please don't change it back to [[Megatron_%28G1%29|Megatron]] in November! --[[User:Starcrunch|Starcrunch]] 15:45, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Nice going guys. You finally got rid of Megatron... and then replaced him with Primal Prime, who's been on for three months. Either someone tell me how to change that article, or ''please'' replace it with something new--how about Optimus Prime's G1 toys? [[User:Crosshairs-1|"MovieMan"]] 11:17, 24 February 2008 (UTC)Crosshairs-1

== "By series" column is missing... ==

"Comics" for Beast Wars.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 13:51, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

== Just a little question... ==

Is there anywhere I can find a NON parody wiki? - Anonymous

: Right here? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:31, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:wikipedia--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 19:33, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
::But their TF pages suck. So dry and boring and light on content and all Mignashy. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:35, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Mostly the Mignashy part. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:48, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Wikipedia Transformers stuff is full on content! It's just all made up. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't think you understand the meaning of "parody", Mister Anonymous. "It has humor in it" is not what parody entails. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:48, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, plus beneath our bad captions and jokes there's a wealth of information you will not likely find anywhere else, at least not all in one place. I think people are too used to the "[insert franchise] is ''Serious Business''" natures of the large, dry wikis like Memory Alpha and the Star Wars Wiki. That or they are unable to laugh at Transformers because they take it too seriously. Or they think this entire wiki is written solely by Walky, and since they hate Walky, they hate the wiki. Those last people suck. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:58, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

== Logo--Good Wiki!==
Hi guys!!! This is a very creative wiki! But I am not keen on the logo. Right now is: [[Image:wiki.png]]<br>
{{unsigned|Thatkidjasper}}

:Please sign your posts to talk pages by typing four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) at the end.
:Also, you'll have more luck getting us to change our logo if you spend a few months as a regular contributor, first. [[User:JW|JW]] 19:22, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

How do u put your logo on the upper left?--[[User:Farragut79|Farragut79]] 14:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

== Caps? ==

Do we want to implement sabrblade's suggestion of replacing

(toyline/cartoon/comic)

with

(Toyline/Cartoon/Comic)

. . . ? Personally, I think it makes the page look more cluttered. [[User:JW|JW]] 22:07, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
:Well, I just thought it would make it look a little neater. I didn't mean anything by it. I also thought it would make more sense to change "comic" to "comics" under Generation 1 and Beast Wars since they both had more than one comic series. I also put a "comic" link under Beast Machines that goes to the Wreckers comic since that ''is'' a Beast Machines comic series. And I thought "comics" should be "comic" under Animated since so far it only had one comic series that we know of. And "Sequel" was already put under Transformers (2007), since I saw that it was capitalized, that's what gave me the idea to capitalize the rest. But I see that someone erased "Sequel" from the main page. [[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 23:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

== Putting Headmasters/Masterforce/Victory links in the "by series" column ==

Would anyone object if I put bulleted links for Headmaster/Masterforce/Victory in the "by series" column? I acknowledge that the series are linked under G1 articles, but it's arguable that they are not "true G1", but rather a non-canonical branch of that continuity.

For example:
* ''[[Generation 1]]'' <span style="font-size:90%">([[Generation 1 (toyline)|toyline]]/[[Generation 1 (cartoon)|cartoon]]/[[Generation 1 (comic)|comic]])</span>
** ''[[Headmasters]]''
** ''[[Masterforce]]''
** ''[[Victory]]''
* ''[[Generation 2]]'' <span style="font-size:90%">([[Generation 2 (toyline)|toyline]]/[[Generation 2 (cartoon)|cartoon]]/[[Generation 2 (Marvel comic)|comic]])</span>

And yes, I am a newb and I know that that impacts the consideration of my suggestion.

[[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 00:34, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:Headmasters/Masterforce/Victory ARE true, canonical G1, but I think the main page list is long enough already without us lengthening it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:37, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::I don't really have a problem with it, but yeah it would make the list longer too much. Besides, you forgot Zone, Battlestars, and Operation: Combination. [[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 00:50, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::1) I don't want to be combative, but can ItsWalky support the G1-canon assertion? Only the hardcore fanbase is familiar with the Japanese series. If these shows are G1, then why don't the G1 cartoon/comic/toy pages consistently contain info about those toys? For instance, the G1 toy page doesn't list the Japan-series-exclusive toys.
:::2) Each Japanese series has its own toyline/comic/cartoon links in this wiki. It only seems proper to list them here.
:::3) I disagree that this would make the list too long.
:::4) I'm afraid I don't know enough about Zone/Battlestars/Op:Com. Time to surf some more...
:::[[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 00:57, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::::In Transformers, and by the standards of this wiki, everything that is approved by Hasbro or Takara is canon. Without exception. It does not matter whether you have seen it or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:02, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::ItsWalky, do you have any non-length-related objection? [[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 01:29, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::Well, ItsWalky, since you're not buyin' his idea, how about this then. Make a drop-down list for all the JG1 series drop under the Generation 1 text by pressing a [+] button, ya know like the ones seen in Category pages and such. Does that sound okay? And maybe one to drop under Beast Wars for Beast Wars II and Neo? [[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 01:34, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

I am really not sure how we would jigger a collapsible continuity tree list. I would assume though if anyone knew how to accomplish this it would involve some sort of sinister faustian bargain with the fount of Dark Science that is [[User:Derik|Derik]].--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 01:42, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:Or we could just implement my suggestion. Problem solved! [[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 01:49, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::Not quite. You say, "put them on the list," he says, "no, it'll be too long," I say "compromise, a drop-down list '''if it's possible'''" [[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 02:17, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::If we include the various Japanese G1 franchises we would also need to include Battle For the Spark, Unicron Battles, Powerlinx Battles, Primus Unleashed and Allspark Battles. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:53, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::::None of those are quite the seperate, distinct entity that the Japanese lines mentioned are. BftS, etc. are sublines of their respective ongoing lines. Masterforce, Victory, etc. are mainlines themselves, with the only higher hierarchy level being "Transformers", or arguably "Transformers Japan".
::::I think the list is long enough. The Japanese series are all linked too off of the summary [[Generation 1]] page. A collapsible list would probably uglify the aesthetic table we have in place, to say nothing of the technical difficulties to make it work. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 05:15, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::'''Then it follows that some work should be done to include the japanese-exclusive toys from these series in the G1 toys pages, and include the japan-manga for these series in the G1 comics pages. Do you all think that is appropriate? The way I see it, these series are either within G1 (for the wiki), or they aren't. Right now it seems like they halfway are.'''[[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 16:40, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:Yay, I'm faustian! You have no idea how happy that makes me.
:Unfortunately, a quick investigation tells me that Wikia does not come equipped with any of the table-collapse scripts found on Wikipedia (they have custom ones for the table of contents and category trees, but they aren't cross-adaptable.) It ''might'' be possible to install one of them purely in the Monobook.js file we can edit (I feel like there might be PHP integration, which we can't) but even then the scripts are very limited, and don't do quite what we want.
:Wikipedia has generally be very, very distrustful of implementing those kind of drop-downs because of compatibility issues. Making Javascript a fundamental part of your site's navigation is bad because if someone turns it off or cripples its functions to suppress annoying ads... thennt his site ceases to function.
:So, while a drop-down may be ''possible'' with considerable effort, it brings entailed problems that would seem to outweigh any benefits it delivers. Without a more compelling application for a drop-down, I wouldn't be interested in even ''trying'' to get it working. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:18, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::Uh, I'm sorry, I don't know how I totally missed this conversation. The javascript that Derik describes here is not only not hard to do, but it's actually phenomenally easy. The only question is would it LOOK good on the page; I assure you, the technical end is not an issue.

::If anyone still cares. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 05:21, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

:Let me draw your attention to my bolded post above... Any comments? [[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 00:41, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
::I don't think we care enough about those series to list them. We prefer to mock them. List is too long, anyway. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

==Weird Wikia Spotlight image==
Is it just me or is that Autobot symbol Wikia is using to Spotlight our site an unofficial fan-made version? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:55, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, that's... pretty lame. You'd think they could have grabbed one of the ones here in the wiki. [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 09:00, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::God fucking dammit. That's Neale's erroneous font, with the three hash-marks per forehead instead of two. I will not allow this. Who do I yell at? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:45, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:I never thought an Autobrand could look so angry...-- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 02:05, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

:How to fix the image:
:1. make new image using official Autobot sigil from... anywhere
:2. go [[w:Image:Transformers-monaco.gif|here]].
:3. upload new image
:4. ???
:5. PROFIT!!! --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:41, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
::Man that is pretty dang shitty. Why does Wikia keep trying to make logos '''for''' us?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 03:00, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I have done my level best to try to turn our masthead into a little spotlight image there.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 03:15, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:::[[w:Image:Transformers120.png|Here]], actually. And done. Thank God. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:58, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Wow, much better! :D --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 09:14, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Walky, I [[W:Image:Transformers125.png|found another one]], I assume you have a larger original file that you can replace it with?. Hopefully they didn't make anymore, because that fake Autobot symbol is fucking awful. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:45, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

:Hi, guys -- I'm sorry that you didn't like the spotlight image, and I'm glad that you made your own. [[w:Image:Transformers-monaco.gif|This one]] is terrific; much better than the other one.

:If you guys ever have any concerns (or complaints) about the spotlights or any kind of promotional stuff, please let me know... We're trying to support you and your wiki, and obviously we don't want to do anything that you don't like. Teletraan I is an awesome wiki, and I want to make sure that lots of people know about it.

:So... I'm the person you yell at. And also, hopefully, I'm the person that you can come to with ideas about how to make your site better. Let me know what you think. -- [[User:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue">Danny</font>]]<staff /> ([[User talk:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 06:10, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

::Hi, at least speaking for myself, we're not actually that angry... I think :) Just that the fake Autobot symbol has some minor controversy surrounding it ever since it was accidently used by [[IDW Publishing]] for one of their [[Stormbringer issue 1|early Transformers comics]]. Plus, we try to keep on the good side of Hasbro by using their approved logos and such. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:10, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

:::Thank you for the response - and the desire to promote our wiki. I'd agree with FFN that there's not much actual anger here, and any dissatisfaction is easily remedied. Just let us know whenever you want to run any promos, and we'll cook up whatever imagery and so forth you need. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 21:28, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

::::Okay, cool. We're going to be building up an Entertainment-hub wiki pretty soon, and I may take you up on that offer. :) It's going to take us a little bit to figure out how to do it, but the idea is to have a place where people can promote their wiki, show off a bit, and make connections with other wiki people. It should be fun. I'll let you guys know when it goes up... -- [[User:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue">Danny</font>]]<staff /> ([[User talk:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 23:35, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

==Death becomes you==

Why not add a section relating to death in Transformers (character deaths, permanence etc) with a special section for the way Optimus' pop their clogs...a lot[[User:GWolfv2]]
:We have [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime]]. An article on [[Death]] in general might not be amiss. [[User:JW|JW]] 13:26, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::Well, I started it. It's very slim, cause I'm sure there's people out there more informed then me. I'll try and add what I can once a style is put in place [[User:GWolfv2]]

== april fools day plans ==

i recomend that for april fools day we lock the main page and save a copy of some of the longest/most important pages[[User:81.108.233.59|81.108.233.59]] 16:10, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:No real need to save a copy. Wiki software archives older versions automatically.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 16:23, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:And, the main page is already semiprotected. [[User:JW|JW]] 16:26, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

==Shift from movie to Animated?==
I'm just thinking that maybe the frontpage's "highlight" should change from the TF movie, which is well wound-down, to Animated, which is new and big and running full-steam. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:04, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
: Sure. That seems like an easy change... --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:19, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

== Featured article ==

We have had the same thing there for like 50 years{{unsigned|Human in Disguise|02:22, 7 April 2008}}
:Not really. Jhiaxus was only made a Featured Article on March 2, 2008.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 06:05, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
::With 6k articles, maybe we could switch the featured article every month?[[User:Spriteless|Spriteless]] 05:45, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
:::We try to when we can, but usually that involves a big push to improve the given article to featured article standards.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 06:30, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

== front tf page ==

i hate april fool pranks on my fave tf front page -dr
:What? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:11, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

== Funny ==
I think we should remove the funny nes on the page, If it stays, It will sound like a child has being messing up this place and Other people will think it doesn't make sense. [[User:Black rhino ranger|Black rhino ranger]] 09:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
:You're going to find yourself in the minority regarding this opinion.--[[User:Suzyprime|Suzyprime]] 13:02, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

:Actually, Ranger, people are more likely to think this wiki "doesn't make sense" if it's edited by people who can't spell, conjugate, or use capital letters correctly. [[User:JW|JW]] 18:37, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Who made this again. [[User:Black rhino ranger|Black rhino ranger]] 19:55, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
:If that's a question, I don't understand it. [[User:JW|JW]] 20:33, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

==Search==
So, uh, what happened to the ability to type something into the text box, click "search," and not have it take me directly to a page, but give me a list of pages the term appears in instead? There is no search button on the front page! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:37, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
:For as long as I've used the wiki, the Search function has only done that for me if what I've typed didn't match the title of any article exactly. As for the front page, I still see the Search box. I don't know if it makes a difference, but I'm using the Monaco skin.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 14:12, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
::That doesn't match my experiences. I could type in "Megatron," click Search, and then it'd give me a list of pages that mention "Megatron" in the body of the text. It was very useful. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:54, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
::On the topic of the Monaco skin, can we get some admin feedback on the Monaco skin discussion, please? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:32, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
::To be sure, yes, that would be useful. As it is, now you'd have to type something like "Megatron's" or "Megatron" and another word to get similar results. And yeah, I've seen notices for the admins from [[User:Toughpigs|Toughpigs]] asking for feedback and wondered when that was going to be resolved.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 15:13, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
:Regarding the search box - typing something into the box and hitting "enter," or clicking "go," is the option that takes you directly to the page with the title you've typed. Typing something into the box and actually clicking the button marked "search" is the option that brings up a list of stuff containing the term, and that's the button we appear to have lost here (although on my screen at least, it's coming and going intermittently, but that's probably a browser cache thing). I've not got the Monaco skin on, but regarding that, I rather like it, and I'd like to see it implimented. There's something very "bare bones" about our set up here, and of course, I know that we kinda have that as a show of "not taking everything too seriously," but I'd personally like to see the Monaco skin in use. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:30, 15 April 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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<span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:100px;line-height:100px;font-weight:900;">THE FUNNY STAYS.</span>
-The Management

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<span style="font-size:2em"><b>Please use this talk page for discussion about the [[Main Page]].

To discuss site-wide policies, please visit [[Transformers Wiki Talk:Community Portal|the Community Portal talk page]].</b></span>

==Archives==
*[[Talk:Main_Page/Archive1|Archive1]]
*[[Talk:Main_Page/Archive2|Archive2]]

== The Funny ==

Maybe if the stuff you said was funny, no one would have a problem with it, but most of the jokes on here are pretty lame, it's not about transformers fans being serious, it's about your jokes being bad. When other people try to put there humor in it, you erase it. Sooooo make the jokes funny and you wont have to worry about it. Besides the Real Wikipedia has more information on transformers than the one dedicated to transformers have, what gives. Maybe before you work on your lame jokes you can fill out the information on the article. Sorry just what I think about it, don't take to much offence. {{unsigned|67.140.110.210}}

:Humor is subjective. Pesonally, I consider most of the jokes on this site to be neutral. They are clearly trying to be silly, but neither funny nor painful. They merely lighten the tone. Users who show up here and do nothing but change jokes into different jokes are clearly not accomplishing anything. The new jokes are never any better -- they are merely different, and often worse. That is a waste of everybody's time. I haven't spent a lot of time browsing Transformers material on Wikipedia, but I highly doubt that their information is ''better'', even if there might be a larger quantity of it. What little I've seen there has been disorganized, mixes fan assertions with canon, and is at times not even reliable. ''If'' they have more information than we do, it is only because people have been adding TF info there for at least twice as long as this specialized wiki has existed. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:57, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

::Yep, this wiki is a far more reliable source of information for Transformers than the Wikipedia shall ever be. I've corrected some of their base assumptions and half-truths upon occassion. If we lack information for something, '''then feel free to contribute''' to our wiki or wait for one of us to get around to it. Really, what the Wikipedia offers is rather generalised information and (as steve-o points out) fan-assumed fanon and downright false information. Besides, we provide the Transformers info that the users on the wikipedia either don't know or won't bother with, such as info on the toys, their designers, toy construction materials, obscure series and/or characters and so on.
:: And yes, we think captioning a picture of say, Megatron with 'Art of Megatron' or some such is really patronising. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:00, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I, as a fellow Transformer fan, agree that "the funny" is lame.

One time I tried to change [[Nautilator]]'s bio; stating that he carries a powerful weapon, transforms INTO a powerful weapon, and is an undersea version of [[Constructicon]] [[Scavager]]. But none of that went through.

I'm sensing "the bias" here.

[http://www.geocities.com/tenou_clock/ Tyrenol]

:''I, as a fellow Transformer fan, agree that "the funny" is lame.''<br>
: Some of it is certainly very very lame. If you would like to raise the level of humor here, then A) become a regular and respected contributor of useful non-funny stuff, ''then'' B) improve the funny. What we most strongly object to is newcomers who contribute ''nothing'' except changes to the humor. Changing the funny is an earned privilege. [[User:JW|JW]] 19:44, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::'''Tyrenol:''' Your [[Nautilator (G1)|Nautilator]] bio was, as far as I can tell, at best [[fanon]] or at worst fan fiction. Steve-o (an admin) points out that your edit had nothing to do with the established Hasbro toy bio. Despite our humour and over-the-top references to a character's foibles, we base what we write on official material approved by Hasbro/Takara.

::That's not 'bias', that's the rules.

:::Okay, then. Here's another idea: How about you guys use the exact wording from the bios as oppose to just sticking stuff in and thinking that everyone else will agree with its hilariousness.

:::Besides; I have two problems with anything Wiki. 1) Things don't stay <b>changed</b> when they get changed. Annoyances like <b>needed citations</b> and <b>reliable sources</b> that have a problem staying reliable. 2) I have a life to live, a job to pay for where I live, and I really don't have the time to watch everything on the web like a cold-stare hawk.

:::My apologies for being new. My apologies for calling your jokes lame. But what is everybody doing on the web when they can't take the sharp, cold knife in the back that's called "criticism?" The same rules apply for me. [http://www.geocities.com/tenou_clock/ Tyrenol]

::::We have a specific policy AGAINST cut-and-pasting from bios, one of many reasons being that those are a) copyrighted and b) not always applicable. After all, Shockwave sure wasn't anything like his toy bio in the cartoon. Character overviews on this resource are "all-encompassing", in order to reflect changes and evolutions in the character. And what do you do when a character -like, say, Optimus Prime- has several dozen bios over the course of 20 years?
::::Maybe you should apologize for playing the "I have a life" card that screams "I have no actual argument so I'll imply you all are losers". And don't confuse "whinging" with "criticism", or "disagreeing with" as "can't take it". This argument has come up with many an anon IP who is more interested in fighting a long-established precedent for this wiki which has garnered far more positive attention than negative than they are in contributing, and if they didn't change thing one about it, neither will you. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]]

::As for humour being lame, let me ask you a question: Do you wander onto privately-run Tranformers fan sites and message boards, see something you don't like (that isn't necessarily offensive) and proceed to tell off the admins for how they run their website? Much of the reason the wiki is the way it is is because the people who run this wiki and the majority of regular contributors have a sense of humour. I find it odd that newcomers will question our policies as if they claim some sort of ownership over the wiki, yet have contributed little to it. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:24, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

:I'm a newcomer, but I have to admit that the policies regarding jokes ''prevent'' unfair bias, if anything. Additionally, it helps newcomers achieve a sense of ownership. Maybe we don't all get the lame obscure reference on [[Special:Random|whatever]] page, but whoever put it there probably thinks it's hilarious! Thanks to the established policies he/she doesn't need to worry about someone replacing it with another, equally-lame obscure reference. --[[User:Starcrunch|Starcrunch]] 19:05, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

::Make jokes and be merry. My message to any readers is if you get offended by jokes, then you take Transformers way too seriously :-D --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:01, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

:::haha... Transformers too seriously?! ''Only'' five of my nine open browser tabs are occupied with something Transformers related right now. If that's not moderation, then I don't know what is! ...but yes, if your reason for being put-off is a bent sense of humor, then you're probably in in the wrong place! --[[User:Starcrunch|Starcrunch]] 18:16, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I thought the Ladiesman217 article was funny. Needed some fixing for the caption with the police car. It's not funny.

When I read these articles for information, and some stupid joke gets thrown in, it really throws my thought process off. I'm sure it's that way for a lot of people too. Don't forget you're writing this for other people and it's not a good idea to screw with them, or whatever [[User:FartboyExtreme|FartboyExtreme]] 03:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:For every person that hates the joking and non-serious nature of the wiki, there's somebody else that loves it. If people can't hack the humour, well I'm sorry, but that's your problem. As for writing this for other people, I contribute to this wiki for the sheer pleasure of having fun with my stupid toy & cartoon hobby, not out of some obligation or duty to provide an encyclopedia for the fandom. As far as I am concerned, so long as we are accurate and detailed, we can also make light of our hobby. -[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:31, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
::I think there needs to be some rules on where the jokes can be. I personally don't mind them when they're in image captions and such, but I think in the middle of a paragraph isn't very appropriate. Know what I mean? [[User:FartboyExtreme|FartboyExtreme]] 21:01, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Could you provide an example of "middle of the paragraph" humor where you find it inappropriate?
:::Also, just a note: It's hard to take you seriously with that username. [[User:JW|JW]] 21:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
::::I think he's talking about things like my edits to [[Sparkplug Witwicky]]'s cartoon section where I said the Autobots saved the oil rig workers "from a death exactly the same as death", or references to characters freaking out.
::::As for establishing rules to prevent people from placing jokes within paragraphs, I highly doubt that will come to pass as most of the regular contributors and the administration staff write in this manner. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:28, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Seriously, people saying BAWWW WIKI NOT SERIOUS ENOUGH irritates the fuck out of me. I'm sorry our little collection of information about giant toy space robots isn't serious enough for you. Maybe you should go read a Serious Encyclopedia, like the one dedicated to Everything The Goddamn Ewoks Ever Did. That's a serious topic worthy of intense consideration, and it should be treated with the respect it deserves. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 13:49, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::People with names like ''FartboyExtreme'' complaining that the wiki isn't serious enough set off my bullshit meter something fierce.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 14:13, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::: That comment about writing this for other people really shit me up the wall. I was not aware I was doing this wiki as my job. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:07, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

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==Featured Article for October==

So...are we ever going to change the featured article? It's been Megatron for, like, two months now. [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] 03:58, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
:It depends on what the management thinks is complete enough in terms of length and content. I think Movie Prime's article should be given a go since October will be the month of the DVD release in the US and the article is more or less complete. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:14, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
:How about something other than a character page?--[[User:Zodberg|Zodberg]] 12:16, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
::I nominate Sector Seven, because the article is fairly thorough, references a lot of material, and will be useful to the fans directed here who liked the movie but haven't read all the minor, wacky background material. That article is still listed as a "Stub," though as with a great many "stubs" on this wiki I kind of don't see why. It could be made ''longer'', like all of them, but it's not like it's missing anything critical or is just a halfassed paragraph. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 14:33, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I think we should make articles for Rebecca Howard and Alexander Powers before we feature it, since they're pretty important to the ARG storyline, which, as you said, is the wacky background material 99% of people would never seen or heard of. Plus they're linked right at the start of the article. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:41, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

By the way when it comes doing the most wanted page list means I will do it but someone must back me up when I go do yardwork.(Spearhead 08:03, 7 October 2007 (UTC))

Sweet zombie Jesus, the Featured Article changed!!! I think I may faint! ...But one request: Please don't change it back to [[Megatron_%28G1%29|Megatron]] in November! --[[User:Starcrunch|Starcrunch]] 15:45, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Nice going guys. You finally got rid of Megatron... and then replaced him with Primal Prime, who's been on for three months. Either someone tell me how to change that article, or ''please'' replace it with something new--how about Optimus Prime's G1 toys? [[User:Crosshairs-1|"MovieMan"]] 11:17, 24 February 2008 (UTC)Crosshairs-1

== "By series" column is missing... ==

"Comics" for Beast Wars.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 13:51, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

== Just a little question... ==

Is there anywhere I can find a NON parody wiki? - Anonymous

: Right here? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:31, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:wikipedia--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 19:33, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
::But their TF pages suck. So dry and boring and light on content and all Mignashy. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:35, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Mostly the Mignashy part. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:48, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Wikipedia Transformers stuff is full on content! It's just all made up. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't think you understand the meaning of "parody", Mister Anonymous. "It has humor in it" is not what parody entails. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:48, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, plus beneath our bad captions and jokes there's a wealth of information you will not likely find anywhere else, at least not all in one place. I think people are too used to the "[insert franchise] is ''Serious Business''" natures of the large, dry wikis like Memory Alpha and the Star Wars Wiki. That or they are unable to laugh at Transformers because they take it too seriously. Or they think this entire wiki is written solely by Walky, and since they hate Walky, they hate the wiki. Those last people suck. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:58, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

== Logo--Good Wiki!==
Hi guys!!! This is a very creative wiki! But I am not keen on the logo. Right now is: [[Image:wiki.png]]<br>
{{unsigned|Thatkidjasper}}

:Please sign your posts to talk pages by typing four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) at the end.
:Also, you'll have more luck getting us to change our logo if you spend a few months as a regular contributor, first. [[User:JW|JW]] 19:22, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

How do u put your logo on the upper left?--[[User:Farragut79|Farragut79]] 14:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

== Caps? ==

Do we want to implement sabrblade's suggestion of replacing

(toyline/cartoon/comic)

with

(Toyline/Cartoon/Comic)

. . . ? Personally, I think it makes the page look more cluttered. [[User:JW|JW]] 22:07, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
:Well, I just thought it would make it look a little neater. I didn't mean anything by it. I also thought it would make more sense to change "comic" to "comics" under Generation 1 and Beast Wars since they both had more than one comic series. I also put a "comic" link under Beast Machines that goes to the Wreckers comic since that ''is'' a Beast Machines comic series. And I thought "comics" should be "comic" under Animated since so far it only had one comic series that we know of. And "Sequel" was already put under Transformers (2007), since I saw that it was capitalized, that's what gave me the idea to capitalize the rest. But I see that someone erased "Sequel" from the main page. [[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 23:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

== Putting Headmasters/Masterforce/Victory links in the "by series" column ==

Would anyone object if I put bulleted links for Headmaster/Masterforce/Victory in the "by series" column? I acknowledge that the series are linked under G1 articles, but it's arguable that they are not "true G1", but rather a non-canonical branch of that continuity.

For example:
* ''[[Generation 1]]'' <span style="font-size:90%">([[Generation 1 (toyline)|toyline]]/[[Generation 1 (cartoon)|cartoon]]/[[Generation 1 (comic)|comic]])</span>
** ''[[Headmasters]]''
** ''[[Masterforce]]''
** ''[[Victory]]''
* ''[[Generation 2]]'' <span style="font-size:90%">([[Generation 2 (toyline)|toyline]]/[[Generation 2 (cartoon)|cartoon]]/[[Generation 2 (Marvel comic)|comic]])</span>

And yes, I am a newb and I know that that impacts the consideration of my suggestion.

[[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 00:34, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:Headmasters/Masterforce/Victory ARE true, canonical G1, but I think the main page list is long enough already without us lengthening it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:37, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::I don't really have a problem with it, but yeah it would make the list longer too much. Besides, you forgot Zone, Battlestars, and Operation: Combination. [[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 00:50, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::1) I don't want to be combative, but can ItsWalky support the G1-canon assertion? Only the hardcore fanbase is familiar with the Japanese series. If these shows are G1, then why don't the G1 cartoon/comic/toy pages consistently contain info about those toys? For instance, the G1 toy page doesn't list the Japan-series-exclusive toys.
:::2) Each Japanese series has its own toyline/comic/cartoon links in this wiki. It only seems proper to list them here.
:::3) I disagree that this would make the list too long.
:::4) I'm afraid I don't know enough about Zone/Battlestars/Op:Com. Time to surf some more...
:::[[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 00:57, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::::In Transformers, and by the standards of this wiki, everything that is approved by Hasbro or Takara is canon. Without exception. It does not matter whether you have seen it or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:02, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::ItsWalky, do you have any non-length-related objection? [[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 01:29, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::Well, ItsWalky, since you're not buyin' his idea, how about this then. Make a drop-down list for all the JG1 series drop under the Generation 1 text by pressing a [+] button, ya know like the ones seen in Category pages and such. Does that sound okay? And maybe one to drop under Beast Wars for Beast Wars II and Neo? [[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 01:34, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

I am really not sure how we would jigger a collapsible continuity tree list. I would assume though if anyone knew how to accomplish this it would involve some sort of sinister faustian bargain with the fount of Dark Science that is [[User:Derik|Derik]].--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 01:42, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:Or we could just implement my suggestion. Problem solved! [[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 01:49, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::Not quite. You say, "put them on the list," he says, "no, it'll be too long," I say "compromise, a drop-down list '''if it's possible'''" [[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 02:17, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::If we include the various Japanese G1 franchises we would also need to include Battle For the Spark, Unicron Battles, Powerlinx Battles, Primus Unleashed and Allspark Battles. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:53, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::::None of those are quite the seperate, distinct entity that the Japanese lines mentioned are. BftS, etc. are sublines of their respective ongoing lines. Masterforce, Victory, etc. are mainlines themselves, with the only higher hierarchy level being "Transformers", or arguably "Transformers Japan".
::::I think the list is long enough. The Japanese series are all linked too off of the summary [[Generation 1]] page. A collapsible list would probably uglify the aesthetic table we have in place, to say nothing of the technical difficulties to make it work. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 05:15, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::'''Then it follows that some work should be done to include the japanese-exclusive toys from these series in the G1 toys pages, and include the japan-manga for these series in the G1 comics pages. Do you all think that is appropriate? The way I see it, these series are either within G1 (for the wiki), or they aren't. Right now it seems like they halfway are.'''[[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 16:40, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:Yay, I'm faustian! You have no idea how happy that makes me.
:Unfortunately, a quick investigation tells me that Wikia does not come equipped with any of the table-collapse scripts found on Wikipedia (they have custom ones for the table of contents and category trees, but they aren't cross-adaptable.) It ''might'' be possible to install one of them purely in the Monobook.js file we can edit (I feel like there might be PHP integration, which we can't) but even then the scripts are very limited, and don't do quite what we want.
:Wikipedia has generally be very, very distrustful of implementing those kind of drop-downs because of compatibility issues. Making Javascript a fundamental part of your site's navigation is bad because if someone turns it off or cripples its functions to suppress annoying ads... thennt his site ceases to function.
:So, while a drop-down may be ''possible'' with considerable effort, it brings entailed problems that would seem to outweigh any benefits it delivers. Without a more compelling application for a drop-down, I wouldn't be interested in even ''trying'' to get it working. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:18, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::Uh, I'm sorry, I don't know how I totally missed this conversation. The javascript that Derik describes here is not only not hard to do, but it's actually phenomenally easy. The only question is would it LOOK good on the page; I assure you, the technical end is not an issue.

::If anyone still cares. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 05:21, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

:Let me draw your attention to my bolded post above... Any comments? [[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 00:41, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
::I don't think we care enough about those series to list them. We prefer to mock them. List is too long, anyway. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

==Weird Wikia Spotlight image==
Is it just me or is that Autobot symbol Wikia is using to Spotlight our site an unofficial fan-made version? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:55, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, that's... pretty lame. You'd think they could have grabbed one of the ones here in the wiki. [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 09:00, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::God fucking dammit. That's Neale's erroneous font, with the three hash-marks per forehead instead of two. I will not allow this. Who do I yell at? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:45, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:I never thought an Autobrand could look so angry...-- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 02:05, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

:How to fix the image:
:1. make new image using official Autobot sigil from... anywhere
:2. go [[w:Image:Transformers-monaco.gif|here]].
:3. upload new image
:4. ???
:5. PROFIT!!! --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:41, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
::Man that is pretty dang shitty. Why does Wikia keep trying to make logos '''for''' us?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 03:00, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I have done my level best to try to turn our masthead into a little spotlight image there.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 03:15, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:::[[w:Image:Transformers120.png|Here]], actually. And done. Thank God. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:58, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Wow, much better! :D --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 09:14, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Walky, I [[W:Image:Transformers125.png|found another one]], I assume you have a larger original file that you can replace it with?. Hopefully they didn't make anymore, because that fake Autobot symbol is fucking awful. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:45, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

:Hi, guys -- I'm sorry that you didn't like the spotlight image, and I'm glad that you made your own. [[w:Image:Transformers-monaco.gif|This one]] is terrific; much better than the other one.

:If you guys ever have any concerns (or complaints) about the spotlights or any kind of promotional stuff, please let me know... We're trying to support you and your wiki, and obviously we don't want to do anything that you don't like. Teletraan I is an awesome wiki, and I want to make sure that lots of people know about it.

:So... I'm the person you yell at. And also, hopefully, I'm the person that you can come to with ideas about how to make your site better. Let me know what you think. -- [[User:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue">Danny</font>]]<staff /> ([[User talk:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 06:10, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

::Hi, at least speaking for myself, we're not actually that angry... I think :) Just that the fake Autobot symbol has some minor controversy surrounding it ever since it was accidently used by [[IDW Publishing]] for one of their [[Stormbringer issue 1|early Transformers comics]]. Plus, we try to keep on the good side of Hasbro by using their approved logos and such. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:10, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

:::Thank you for the response - and the desire to promote our wiki. I'd agree with FFN that there's not much actual anger here, and any dissatisfaction is easily remedied. Just let us know whenever you want to run any promos, and we'll cook up whatever imagery and so forth you need. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 21:28, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

::::Okay, cool. We're going to be building up an Entertainment-hub wiki pretty soon, and I may take you up on that offer. :) It's going to take us a little bit to figure out how to do it, but the idea is to have a place where people can promote their wiki, show off a bit, and make connections with other wiki people. It should be fun. I'll let you guys know when it goes up... -- [[User:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue">Danny</font>]]<staff /> ([[User talk:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 23:35, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

==Death becomes you==

Why not add a section relating to death in Transformers (character deaths, permanence etc) with a special section for the way Optimus' pop their clogs...a lot[[User:GWolfv2]]
:We have [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime]]. An article on [[Death]] in general might not be amiss. [[User:JW|JW]] 13:26, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::Well, I started it. It's very slim, cause I'm sure there's people out there more informed then me. I'll try and add what I can once a style is put in place [[User:GWolfv2]]

== april fools day plans ==

i recomend that for april fools day we lock the main page and save a copy of some of the longest/most important pages[[User:81.108.233.59|81.108.233.59]] 16:10, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:No real need to save a copy. Wiki software archives older versions automatically.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 16:23, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:And, the main page is already semiprotected. [[User:JW|JW]] 16:26, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

==Shift from movie to Animated?==
I'm just thinking that maybe the frontpage's "highlight" should change from the TF movie, which is well wound-down, to Animated, which is new and big and running full-steam. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:04, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
: Sure. That seems like an easy change... --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:19, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

== Featured article ==

We have had the same thing there for like 50 years{{unsigned|Human in Disguise|02:22, 7 April 2008}}
:Not really. Jhiaxus was only made a Featured Article on March 2, 2008.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 06:05, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
::With 6k articles, maybe we could switch the featured article every month?[[User:Spriteless|Spriteless]] 05:45, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
:::We try to when we can, but usually that involves a big push to improve the given article to featured article standards.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 06:30, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

== front tf page ==

i hate april fool pranks on my fave tf front page -dr
:What? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:11, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

== Funny ==
I think we should remove the funny nes on the page, If it stays, It will sound like a child has being messing up this place and Other people will think it doesn't make sense. [[User:Black rhino ranger|Black rhino ranger]] 09:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
:You're going to find yourself in the minority regarding this opinion.--[[User:Suzyprime|Suzyprime]] 13:02, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

:Actually, Ranger, people are more likely to think this wiki "doesn't make sense" if it's edited by people who can't spell, conjugate, or use capital letters correctly. [[User:JW|JW]] 18:37, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Who made this again. [[User:Black rhino ranger|Black rhino ranger]] 19:55, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
:If that's a question, I don't understand it. [[User:JW|JW]] 20:33, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

==Search==
So, uh, what happened to the ability to type something into the text box, click "search," and not have it take me directly to a page, but give me a list of pages the term appears in instead? There is no search button on the front page! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:37, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
:For as long as I've used the wiki, the Search function has only done that for me if what I've typed didn't match the title of any article exactly. As for the front page, I still see the Search box. I don't know if it makes a difference, but I'm using the Monaco skin.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 14:12, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
::That doesn't match my experiences. I could type in "Megatron," click Search, and then it'd give me a list of pages that mention "Megatron" in the body of the text. It was very useful. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:54, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
::On the topic of the Monaco skin, can we get some admin feedback on the Monaco skin discussion, please? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:32, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
::To be sure, yes, that would be useful. As it is, now you'd have to type something like "Megatron's" or "Megatron" and another word to get similar results. And yeah, I've seen notices for the admins from [[User:Toughpigs|Toughpigs]] asking for feedback and wondered when that was going to be resolved.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 15:13, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
:Regarding the search box - typing something into the box and hitting "enter," or clicking "go," is the option that takes you directly to the page with the title you've typed. Typing something into the box and actually clicking the button marked "search" is the option that brings up a list of stuff containing the term, and that's the button we appear to have lost here (although on my screen at least, it's coming and going intermittently, but that's probably a browser cache thing). I've not got the Monaco skin on, but regarding that, I rather like it, and I'd like to see it implimented. There's something very "bare bones" about our set up here, and of course, I know that we kinda have that as a show of "not taking everything too seriously," but I'd personally like to see the Monaco skin in use. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:30, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
::It's the difference between GO and SEARCH. Go takes you to the exact page, Search looks for pages with those words. The cute little rotating graphic thing changes the search box and just leaves the GO option. --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 17:45, 15 April 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Optimus Prime (Movie)

2008-04-04T04:01:58Z

70.190.251.10: /* Red is Hard To Film? */

Prime's offical bio was released a few days ago. Shouldn't it go in here?

Read your talk page more often. Explanation was there. Suffice to say, posting the bio, word for word, is a no-no.--[[User:UndeadScottsman|UndeadScottsman]] 11:55, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I never read my talk page. Who in their right mind would want to talk to me

==Top image==
Derik, on-screen Movie characters need to have Dreamworks images at the top of their pages. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 21:18, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
:...why? If a character appears in multiple media we seem to pick whatever shows the character off best. This book (being a retelling of the movie) probably isn't the best example, but if we got a great image of Prime by Geoff Senior in the UK Mag, can we never use that?
:(I'm not disagreeing that there ''is'' a good argument for reverting to the original picture,but I'm not sure I agree with your statement that Dreamworks renders are ''automatically'' the only acceptable main image. Frankly, I think a ''lot'' of Dreamworks images look bad when not in motion.)

-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:47, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

:Because we need the top-quality Dreamworks renders on every on-screen character's page in any case, and putting them on top creates consistency like a legitimate encyclopedia. You added a ''great'' image, but it belongs down further. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 21:50, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

::I still prefer that render of the actual CG model used in the movie than the low-res, low-detail promotional CG model render we're using now. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 21:59, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

:::Yes, let us use that one. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 22:03, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

::::Apparently we can't. They decided that the movie design looked ugly and that was the end of discussion, evidently. I, on the other hand, think the lower-detail design from late 2005/2006 that the toys are based upon looks... incomplete (I mean the front of the hood just becomes these little nubs under his windows!) and not as visually impressive as the final version. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 22:10, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

{| width="100%"
|+ Profile images of Movie Prime
|-
| [[Image:MovieOptimusPrime promorender.jpg|800x200px]]
| [[Image:MovieOptimusPrime promorender3.jpg|800x200px]]
| [[Image:MovieOptimusPrime promorender2.jpg|800x200px]]
| [[Image:Movieprime meettheautobots.jpg|800x200px]]
|}

I'm looking at these 4 images- and I'm really not seeing the huge differences between the designs of 2 and 3 that you're describing. Where does his hood go on #2 version that it doesn't in #3? #3 looks liek a rougher, simpler (better proportioned) model, but of the final design to me. And ''any'' way you cut it, i think #1 and #2 are the ''ugliest'' pictures in this lineup.

<nowiki>#</nowiki>1's shoulder is coming out of his crotch, for instance. If the final image misleads the eye about spatial relationships then it's ''badly composed''. The abstract knowledge that it is a 3d model and thus spatially perfect does not change the fact it it a terrible 2D image. #3 has displeasing proportions- and frankly is boring and inspiring, capturing none of Prime's character. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:38, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't know if it matters to anyone. But I prefer images 3 and 4. #1 is AWEFUL. #2 is boring. #3 is decent. #4 Is the best image, objectively, but of course isn't CGI.--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 22:57, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
::It' not like we're locked into the CGI- we don't use it for [[Cheetor]]'s main image. If anything we seem to like having [[Terrorsaur (BW)|some variety]] to the sources we use. That said- this ''is'' Prime, and I'd like to have a Dreamworks image if we could find one that doesn't suck. It's not like we're locked into 'Okay it MUST be one of the Dreamworks promo images,' or that any image we choose is permanent. Once the Blue-ray of the movie comes out we'll have lots of images to choose from (Not the mention the promised intermezzo story.)
::I happen to think [http://www.emopanda.com/tmp/we_are_waiting.jpg this] is a gorgeous image, and even though it's of Prime's back, it captures something central to his character, and unique to the Movie version, the decision to make Earth not just a second home like in every other continuity ever- but an ''only'' home. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:39, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

:What does the first picture have to do with anything? That's the old design anyway, and it seems most people hate that pose. The hood on the final model is more obviously hood-shaped and sits there on his torso. On the earlier design, they become red, for a lack of a better word, ''shapes''. It is, by comparison, a poor CG model to the actual movie one, and the only thing going for it is its HEROIC POSE. But I can already see that maintaining such a differing opinion will be to no avail. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:08, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
::You're all disdainful of the heoric pose. Why? Do you think that the main image should be lifeless and dead as long as it's correct? It's not like these are the only two renders of Prime out there. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:39, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

:::I'm not a fan of the model, not the pose. Those stupidly long blue things on his forearms appear to have been shorted or folded on the movie model. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:06, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

==Fiction==

Someone else had already added in some information from the prequel comics in the top paragraph, so I just rearranged it to the bottom with a spoiler tag. If we're not supposed to put fiction in yet, I'm sorry. -[[User:EricMarrs|EricMarrs]] 14:36, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

== EW Interview canonical? ==

How do we want to treat the new Entertainment Weekly intereview with movie Prime? It was apparently written by the screenplay writers and was (likely?) approved by Hasbro to see print, does that make it official canon? We HAVE set a president of a sort by counting things like [[Toaster (G1)|Toaster]] and the "ask vector prime" info, though those were from first party sources and this is in a second party source but was likely approved by first party? So, um yeah, is that official enough? I ask because though tounge-in-cheek it mentions things like movie Ratchet's wedding that might deserve a passing light-hearted mention on his page. If we are taking Toaster and Blaster's sister as cannon then is this any different? Thoughts? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 01:35, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
:I don't know how likely or not it was to have been Hasbro approved. Given how meta-jokingly it's written -- with Optimus and Megatron being actors who play Optimus and Megatron in the movie, Megatron being such a method actor it's best to avoid him when he's in-character because he might vaporize you -- I'm not really sure how to treat it as "canon."

:Also, I feel I must nitpickingly point out that, technically, the reference isn't to ''movie'' Ratchet's wedding, as that answer comes in response to a question about whether Optimus kept up with "his old Autobot buddies from the show," and we of course are treating the movie and G1 characters as separate entities. ;) --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:56, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

::I agree it's a tricky call, which is why I bring it up. I'd guess anything written by the screenwriters as promo for the movie in a major publication like EW would have had to have some kind of official OK/oversite. The "meta" side of it, being tounge in cheek and breaking the third wall and all that is an issue too, but at the same time we include things like the tounge-in-cheek, third-wall-breaking Botcon scripts, UK letters page, and ask Vector Prime which all proceed from similar footing. It's worth debate at least. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 03:08, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

In a similar vein, what about Sarah Silverman being a Transformer? All that MTV awards show shpiel had to have been approved at least by Dreamworks. It's no more ridiculous than any of the other examples listed above. Less funny, but that's Sarah Silverman for you. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 15:39, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

== OP's face ==

Should it be added in that Optimus will still have his retractable face plate as seen in earlier concept work (now confirmed by official screenshots) and that he looks a lot like a robotic Peter Cullin? [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 02:45, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

== What went wrong? ==

What the fuck just happened? I edited the "Fast Action Battlers" section, and now it's fucked up! What did I do wrong? Does this Wiki have a mind of it's own, and it craves incorrect information, thus if I try to correct it it screws me over?

I honestly dont know either bud. I wish they would say SOMTHING more then what their saying about all of the Fast Action battlers. A wiki should be unbais. Btw: Since this is the talk page, I just thot I'd throw in an OPINION, but my OPINION is that I think Fast action Starscream, Ratchet, and Brawl are pretty close to the "real" versions of them, and a nice alternative when u wanna save a few bucks. (with the latter...the former..not so much, but its a nice alternative to him, and the cannon is more accurate)--[[User:Chipmonk3288|Chipmonk3288]]

== FAB and G1 prime two-pack ==
"For some reason the Classics Prime toy is designated "1984 Optimus Prime", even though he was released in 2006." I'd love to edit out this stupidity, but last time I tried it screwed up the format of the text. Can somebody tell me what I did wrong, or just fix the mistake themselves? --[[User:MrMania|Sav]] 10:57, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

:What's wrong with it? --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 14:37, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

::And don't call my work stupid. I'm responsible for most of the toy sections on this wiki these days,and most are uncompromisingly 'straight' in comparison to the rest of this place. That was a moment of left-of-field levity - I was pointing out the fact a crappy G1 Prime toy from 2006 that sort of looks like G1 Prime is flogged as '1984 Prime' even though he ''technically'' isn't. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:49, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

:::It's meant to represent G1 Prime, and it does a fairly good job, because I think "g1" when I look at the toy. No matter, though, it seems to have been corrected.--[[User:MrMania|Sav]] 08:11, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

== Leader class figure factory irregular ==

I recently picked up a leader class prime and when I tried to transform it, one of its elbows wouldn't bend. at first I thought it was the screws, but upon closer inspection, the two arm parts had fused solid! is it my figure or a larger oversight on hasbros part?

== Peter cullen figure? ==

I want pics. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 09:10, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
: [http://tfkenkon.com/g/?mode=view&album=Collection%2Fact442&pic=movie_robot_vision_optimus_prime08.jpg&dispsize=1000&start=0 Bam.] [[User:70.55.207.104|70.55.207.104]] 09:38, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

==spare pic==
[[:Image:MovieOptimusPrime_promorender2.jpg|Old low-detail promo render pic]] --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:19, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

==Main pic==
[[Image:Movieprime meettheautobots.jpg|right|thumb|"Freedom is the right of all-- ooh, pretty!"]]
How about we discuss it before changing the picture? Especially (as I pointed out in the image talk of render3), this old render picture is based on the outdated design. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:50, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
:There's been more discussion on this ''somewhere'' where we went full-circle around ''this is not the final design / the final design has less pleasing proportions / there are no CGI images of the final design that doesn't look goofy''.
:Does anyone have the DK I-0can-read book 'Meet the Autobots'? The hand-illustrated image of Optimus Prime standing on Earth on the final page is (I think) the final design, and I think it'd make a ''fantastic'' main pic for the article. (Unfortunately I bought the guidebook instead, so... anyone want to scan?) -04:32, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
::Oh man, we totally ''need'' to have that picture on the article somewhere. It's fantastic. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 21:27, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
:::In the book this images occurs (I think) ''after'' the closing monologue of the movie, with Optimus thinking that 'life is good' on his new home. Could it go at the end of the movie section? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:37, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

== Siblings? ==

I know that OP calls Megatron "Brother" in the movie, but are they actually siblings, or was Optimus speaking metaphorically (as Optimi tend to do)? If it's stated in the prequel comics, that's fine, but if it's only from one line in the movie I have to contend it. -[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 16:37, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, they are siblings. Its in the comics, kids books, novelisation ect, as I understand it. They toned down the reference to that one line in the movie for some reason, as the references were apparently more prevalent in the older draft. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:57, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

:I thought he was just having a Hulk Hogan momemt. -- [[User:69.182.245.28|69.182.245.28]] 06:31, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== His father ==
So one of the video games has a cutscene where Optimus says to Jazz that Megatron "took my father's spark". Did Activision bother to give the brothers' father a NAME in any of the games? -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 00:59, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
:Not the console version.--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 01:59, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

== Another fun addition ==

I added basic information about the new "First Strike" Prime. Should be enough to suffice.

== Videos mentioned in the trivia section... ==

I've only found poor quality videos from YouTube of that Burger King and the MTV thing - do higher res/quality ones exist? (And should we put links in so people can see them? I honestly didn't know about them until I read the page).

== Giftcard and DVD Case Primes ==

Okay, I've hot a question... The Target giftcard and DVD cases that unfold into flat versions of Optimus Prime... Do they belong in the Merchandise section, and if so, does anyone have decent pictures of them? --[[User:Nemesis Primal|Nemesis Primal]] 18:35, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

== Rearranging the toy list? ==

Should we rearrange the toy list sorted by molds? Currently it's a mess, it doesn't even exactly follow the release order; and even though Robo-Vision Prime ''was'' released ''after'' regular Voyager Prime, having them listed in this order and then calling Robo-Vision Prime a "redeco" of Voyager Prime is kinda iffy.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 21:29, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
: So. Any objections to this?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 11:11, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

==Voyager Class shoulder cannons?==

Ok, I bought First Strike Optimus and I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get his shoulder cannons to lower. I thought they would work like Classics Optimus but they don't. Whats the trick to getting this to work?{{unsigned|68.45.124.176}}

==Mouthplate==

Is it worth to note that he's only shown(as far as i know) without his mouthplate ONLY in the movie?--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 21:39, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
: There's a Robot Heroes figure without the mouthplate. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:24, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
::And he's in a Burger King commercial without the mouthplate, too.[[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 13:15, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

==dashes==

For eff's sake, I'm not TRYING to change the dashes - I don't care what they look like, I don't care which kind you use, I don't care if every page on the wiki uses tildes and umlauts instead of real punctuation. it '''happens automatically on these "this page may be too big" pages,''' which seems to be the point Interrobang missed. Once again: It's not intentional; it just happens. I don't know why, so I can't fix it. But by that same token, would you quit just plain old reverting the edit? The other stuff is minor, but it's not irrelevant - at least, not as irrelevant as it could be. It's on-topic with the subjects it's in. So by all means, please, fix th dashes that I've screwed up - but stop reverting the other bits. Please? Yeesh![[User:71.207.12.70|71.207.12.70]] 07:11, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
:You seem to be ignoring the fact that I consider your actual additions minor and unnecessary. Regardless, "it happens automatically on these "this page may be too big" pages" makes very little sense, considering that it isn't consistent on whether it replaces the em dashes with "hyphen-hyphen-space" or "space-hyphen-space". [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 09:13, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
::Hey, beats me—I'm no Firefox programmer. But just because you consider my additions unnecessary, it doesn't mean they actually are. Yeah, they're minor—I said as much. But unnecessary? Your opinion. Which you're only acting upon, I'd wager, because you're in a snit about the dashes. Am I wrong?[[User:71.207.12.70|71.207.12.70]] 05:25, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

== Premium Prime Eyes ==

Will they glow blue instead of yellow like the original Leader toy? If they do, it needs to be mentioned. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 13:24, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

== Red is Hard To Film? ==
In the 1970's TV show "Emergency!" featured many red fire trucks and the crew did not special measures to film them. Therefore, red is not a hard color to film.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency! [[User:Liberal Noob|Liberal Noob]] 01:33, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
:I'm sure this isn't the only example of red vehicles ever being filmed. But Emergency!, being a TV show, was probably filmed on video, and not on... you know, film. I don't know whether red vehicles being hard to film is some weird general thing I'd never heard of before this movie, or whether it has something to do with the special effects, but I'll take the professionals' word for it.
::When I heard that in the commentary, I asked somebody who films stuff, and they said it's hard to get it to look consistantly the same color. He also said lighting can make it look very orange at times. --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 04:01, 4 April 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Scorponok (Movie)

2008-03-31T02:19:56Z

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{{disambig3|Scorponok}}

:''Scorponok is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Movie (franchise)|Movie]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Movie_Scorponok_Procterrender1.jpg|thumb|right|350px|This is his first major role since ''Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers: The Movie'' as Scorpitron. This role he likes better because he doesn't get blown up.]]

'''Scorponok''' is a small [[Transformer]] with a symbiotic connection to [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]]. His main drives are to hunt, destroy, and hunt some more, and nobody knows if he's truly barely sentient or is actually a cunning opponent getting friend & foe alike to underestimate him.. Just as Blackout would often be found looming powerful and silent by [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], Scorponok is always near Blackout, except in those times he has been sent to kill.

Since he can tunnel underground with frightening speed, he's incredibly good at ambushing. His favorite past time is playing Hide and Seek with unsuspecting players, be they robotic or organic. He prefers to be hider ''and'' seeker. On Cybertron, he was deliberately left behind on battlefields - so he could use his chameleon mesh armour plating to blend in perfectly with the background to ambush any Autobot patrols that would arrive. Megatron gave him more autonomy due to this than other Decepticons would get, as he admired Scorponok's genocidal zeal.

He may retreat but he'll come back. He kills Autobots. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fury_(Marvel_Comics) He never gives up]. <ref>Character Profile: Scorponok in Transformers #9 (Titan)</ref>

== Fiction ==
===Ghosts of Yesterday===
He helped Blackout fight [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], and later sabotaged the ''[[Ark (Movie)|Ark]]''. [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] makes Scorponok his bitch for this. He is saved by Blackout, who was still recovering from a massive beating by Starscream. What a pal.

===''Transformers'' Movie Prequel (Target)===

[[Image:HoorayScorponok.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Adorably bloodthirsty]]

Scorponok and Blackout, who ordinarily never leave [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]'s side, were dispatched to join [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]'s forces elsewhere on Cybertron while Megatron closed in on the [[All Spark]]. After the group realized that both the All Spark and Megatron have left Cybertron, Blackout ended an argument with Starscream over what to do next by deploying the fearsome Scorponok. The entire group headed to Earth, where Scorponok adorably helped out in the massacre of a United States military installation in Afghanistan. {{Storylink|Transformers Movie Prequel (Target) Volume 2}}

{{note|This comic has the only fictional depiction of Scorponok's robot mode (which was designed for the toy), and shows that he has always had a scorpion beast mode, and as such it was not a form he assumed once on Earth. However, given the numerous and often contradictory continuity errors in this comic, this depiction of Scorponok should be taken with a grain of salt. Although, his beast mode is just alien enough to work. Explain his name yourself.}}

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===Transformers: The Game===
[[Image:Scorponok 2007game babygotback.jpg|thumb|120px|Coolest. Backpack. Ever.]]
After Blackout scrapped the military base in Qatar, Scroponok was sent to destroy four mobile communications vehicles, succeeding in his task. Scorponok went and did his own thing while Blackout searched the databanks for information on Megatron and the AllSpark, but reunited with Blackout in time for their escape.

After arriving in [[Mission City]], Scorponok fought through a horde of [[Energon drone]]s to secure the AllSpark. Sam Witwicky nearly handed Scorponok the AllSpark, but [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] punted Scorponok. That made Blackout very mad...
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===''Transformers'' (2007) movie===

[[Image:Movie_Blackout_Scorponok_eject1.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Oh, [[slag (slang)|slag]], I forgot the Bungee cord!]]

During Blackout's attack on [[United States Military|US]] [[SOCCENT Forward Operations Base]] in [[Qatar]], the Decepticon helicopter dispatched Scorponok to seek out and destroy the escaped unit under the command of [[William Lennox|Captain Lennox]].

[[Image:Movie_Scorponok_attack.jpg|thumb|right|200px|No one buries Scorponok in the sand and leaves him to the tide!]]

The next morning, as the surviving soldiers discussed the attack, Scorponok observed their conversation from a distance while hidden in the sand. Targeting Lennox for elimination, Scorponok followed the unit as they made their way to [[Mahfouz|the human boy's]] village. Choosing his moment to strike just as the men stopped on the outskirts of the settlement, his attack was foiled when [[Robert Epps|Sergeant Epps]] saw the metal scorpion tail pointed at Lennox's back and shouted a warning. (Well, it wasn't so much a warning as it was a very, very panicked "''WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!''" followed by gunfire, but hey, it counts.) The other soldiers joined in the firefight as Scorponok dove under the sand to confuse them before impaling [[Sergeant Donnelly|Sgt. Donnelly]] and dragging him below.

[[Image:Movie_Scorponok_leapsout.jpg|left|thumb|150px|HUUUGZ!!!]]

Driving the soldiers into the village, Scorponok fired a barrage of missiles which destroyed the ruins that the village had grown around and critically injured [[Jorge Figueroa|Figueroa]]. Unfortunately for Scorponok, Lennox's distress call to the [[Pentagon]] had gotten through, and an MQ-1 Predator drone relayed images of the Decepticon to astonished US military commanders. They immediately sent two [[Popular alternate modes (vehicles)#A-10 Thunderbolt II|A-10 Thunderbolt II]]s to attack Scorponok to little effect, then followed up with an AC-130 Spectre gunship, which damaged Scorponok enough for him to dive back into the sand and escape, leaving his broken tail behind.

[[Image:Scorponok hurt.JPG|right|thumb|150px|I'm not having fun any more.]]
Scorponok's tail was transported back to the States. Lennox, Epps, and several other soldiers examined it en route, which lead to the discovery that the only damage the armor didn't either shrug off or quickly heal was the "6000-degree magnesium burn" of a sabot round. Armed with this knowledge, the humans knew they now had a weapon that could hurt the invaders. {{Storylink|Transformers (2007)}}

Scorponok's current whereabouts, and what effect the death of his symbiotic partner Blackout will have, are unknown...

===Titan Magazines===

...at least until [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] and a team of US Special Forces went looking for him. (Captain Lennox was originally meant to oversee this mission but was reassigned) Hunting his hunters, Scorponok attacked Ironhide and took control of motor functions, having him rampage through the humans. Luckily one of them was able to sever the connection with a shot, and Ironhide smashed the Decepticon to pieces. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 8}}
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==Toys==
===Transformers (2007)===
====Voyager Class Blackout companions====

*'''Blackout''' (Voyager Class, 2007)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''MD-01'''

[[Image:MiniScorponok.jpg|thumb|left|150px|I'm just an accessory.]]

: Blackout comes packed with a small silver figurine of Scorponok, who himself features a spring-loaded tail. He is usually stored in a cage on the rear of Blackout's helicopter mode. (Note: The spring in the figurine's tail is oriented not to spring the tail forward, but to help propel the figure out of the cage so that it lands right side up.)

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* '''Blackout Ver. 4500X''' (Lawson exclusive Voyager Class, Japan 2007)

:This Voyager Class Blackout repaint, exclusive to the Japanese convenience store chain Lawson with the purchase of the movie DVD, came with a redeco of the small Scorponok figurine that came with the regular Voyager Class Blakcout, in metallic colors that better match the Deluxe Class Scorponok toy (and the movie CG design, of course).

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* '''Blackout''' ("Premium Series" Voyager Class, USA 2008)

:This redeco of the Voyager Class Blackout toy appears to be based on the same plastic color layout and paint mask as the Japanese Lawson exclusive "Version 4500X" redeco of Voyager Blackout, down to the improved paint on the Scorponok mini-figure. As a matter of fact, both toys might turn out to be outright ''identical'', packging aside.

:Unlike some of the early "Premium Series" toys, Blackout is slated for a mass release.

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====Legends Class toys====

*'''Bumblebee vs. Scorponok''' (Legends Allspark Battles two-pack, 2008)

[[Image:Movie_Legends_Bumblebee_Scorponok_toys.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Ironically, more robot-like than the deluxe-sized one.]]

: Legends class Scorponok is the smallest transforming figure of ''Movie'' Scorponok yet. He comes packed with a slightly redecoed Legends Class [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]].

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====Deluxe Class toys====
*'''Scorponok''' (Deluxe Class, 2007)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''MD-04'''

[[Image:Move_DeluxeScorponok_toy.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Ever notice every [[Scorponok]] has the same transformation? Claws into claws, legs from the main body, tail sits behind, hoping to be ignored...]]

: Scorponok is a robotic scorpion superficially resembling a ''Zoids'' Death Stinger. His body is covered in military warning and command designation markings, suggesting he forms part of a larger military vehicle ([[Blackout (Movie)|hint, hint]]). Two wheels on the bottom of his beast mode, when pushed on a flat, smooth surface, rotate gears that cause the turbines in his body and the pincers on his arms to spin. His tail features a spring-loaded, yet non-launching stinger that extends when a latch is released.

: In beast mode, Scorponok can combine with the underside of [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout's]] helicopter mode to exploit the larger Decepticon's own gear gimmick system. A geared shaft linked to Blackout's rotor mechanism connects to a geared peg on Scorponok's back. Thus, pressing the button on Blackout's tail not only rotates his blades, but also rotates Scorponok's pincers and the turbines in his body. (This can also be done with [[Evac (Movie)|Evac]] due to him being a retool of Blackout.) This gimmick can also be activated (more easily) by rotating the geared wheels on Scorponok's undercarriage instead.

: Scorponok can transform into what might be ''charitably'' called a robot mode, but was most likely added as an afterthought to the design for added play value (and, possibly, so Hasbro could actually justify selling the toy as a "Transformer" by itself). In any case, this robot mode never appears in the movie, but does appear briefly in the Target-exclusive movie Prequel comic.

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*'''Decepticon Desert Attack''' (Toys'R'Us exclusive two-pack, 2007)

[[Image:Movie_DecepticonDesertAttack_2pack.jpg|thumb|right|150px|Ignoring the vast difference in scale between Scorponok's two figures while linked to Blackout takes some imagination.]]

: This package, based on their first appearance in the film, features an unchanged Voyager Blackout packaged with an unchanged Deluxe Scorponok, which was exclusively available at Toys "R" Us stores. Since Voyager Blackout was gang-molded with the miniature Scorponok figure the single release came with, this means that the set contains ''two'' Scorponok toys in different sizes.

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*'''Ultimate Bumblebee Bonus Value pack''' (Wal*Mart exclusive multi-pack, 2007)

:A Wal*Mart exclusive special pack of [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Ultimate Bumblebee]] with Deluxe Class [[Brawl (Movie)|Decepticon Brawl]] and Scorponok as bonus figures. None of the three toys is changed from their respective original releases.

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*'''Desert Attack''' (Screen Battles, 2007)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''SB-03'''

[[Image:Movie_ScreenBattles_DesertAttack.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Scorponok now comes with little people to kill.]]

:This pack features a minor [[redeco]] of Deluxe Class Scorponok sporting 'sand' paint applications on his body. The pack also comes with non-posable figurines of [[Epps|Sergeant Epps]], [[Jorge Figueroa]] and [[Donnelly|Sergeant Donnelly]]. They are packaged in a special window box featuring a diorama depicting the battle at [[Mahfouz]]'s village.

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===Attacktix===
*'''Battle Masters Megatron and Scorponok''' (Battle Master set, 200?)

[[Image:Attacktix-MovMegsScorp.jpg|right|thumb|150px|I am going to KILL Yukon Cornelius.]]
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==Merchandise==
===Robot Heroes===
*'''Optimus Prime vs Scorponok''' (2007)
[[Image:Rhscorpprime.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Ripped straight from that scene they didn't appear together in.]]

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==Trivia==
[[Image:Movie_Scorponok_headprop.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Now ''I'm'' the [[Headmaster]]!]]
* Real physical props of Scorponok's head and tail were made by ILM's crew for certain scenes, most notably Lennox and Epps' examination of the tail leftovers on the plane. The head prop was used in the close-up of Scorponok stalking the SOCCENT survivors.<ref>[http://www.benprocter.com/SITEv2/HTML/PROJPAGE_Trans_08.html Ben Procter's portfolio, depicting CGI models and life-sized props for Scorponok]</ref>

* According to writer [[Roberto Orci]] on the official Transformers Movie board, [[Ravage]] was originally going to appear in the movie (back when Blackout was still supposed to be [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]])<ref>[http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showpost.php?p=234188&postcount=2008 Roberto Orci confirms that Ravage was replaced by Scorponok at the official movie boards]</ref>, but was later changed to Scorponok when the setting of the opening scene was changed from jungle to desert.<ref>[http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showpost.php?p=234188&postcount=2008 Roberto Orci confirms that Ravage would have appeared in a different terrain at the official movie boards]</ref>

[[Image:Geturboshaftengine.jpg|right|thumb|200px|The Turboshaft engine that film Scorponok transforms from. You can almost see the bits of [[Donnelly]].]]
* This also puts the lack of a "robot mode" into perspective, as it makes the scorpion mode the ''robot mode'' (in the same fashion Ravage's panther mode was the robot mode), whereas his "alternate mode" is actually a part of Blackout's engine: The center of his body appears to be made of a [[Wikipedia:General Electric T64|General Electric T64]] turboshaft engine, whereas according to his transformation/separation sequence in the movie, his forearms are made up of part of the side thrusters' exhausts, and therefore ''also'' consist of parts of T64 engines (how this is is possible, considering an MH-53 Pave Low only features ''two'' T64 engines, is up to anyone's guess). Meanwhile, the various markings found on the CGI model's design, the life-sized props and Hasbro's Deluxe toy are taken from all kinds of places of Blackout's helicopter mode, most prominently the cockpit and the tail.<ref name="pavelow">[http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/mh53jreferencefr_1.htm Detail close-up photos of a real MH-53 Pave Low]</ref> Some of those markings can also be found on props used for the scene which features the US Navy dumping the Decepticons' remains into the ocean.<ref>[http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2006/10/pics-from-uss-shoup-of-transformer.html Behind the scenes photos taken aboard the USS Shoup, depicting props from the movie used for the screne which features the US Navy dumping the Decepticons' remains into the ocean]</ref> Considering Blackout didn't appear to be missing any integral parts of his alternate mode when answering [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy's]] call or during the final battle in [[Mission City]], one would suspect that either Scorponok reattached himself to Blackout after he escaped the US Air Force's counter-attack in Qatar (and was therefore part of Blackout during the final battle), or Blackout somehow magically regrew the parts that were previously made up by Scorponok. Furthermore, this raises the question whether Scorponok is actually supposed to be a fully-fledged character, or merely a "drone". In the feature "From Script to Sand: The Skorponok Desert Attack" on the movie's bonus DVD, production designer [[Jeff Mann]] suggested that Scorponok was "birthed" from Blackout, thus suggesting that he might be more of an autonomous extension of Blackout himself, similar to [[Roller]].

* The movie novelization and the aforementioned feature on the movie's bonus DVD both spell his name "Skorponok", probably yet another late production change. Meanwhile, in interviews, Michael Bay constantly refers to him as "Scorponox", and a preorder listing for the movie score even uses the spelling "Skorpinok".<ref>[http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Steve-Jablonsky/dp/B000VFGQHK Amazon.com preorder for the movie score]</ref> Come on, people! It's not like his name's Mxyzptlk.

* Speaking of real, the famous shot of Scorponok leaping from the sand after a trio of soldiers used in a lot of the promos? Scorponok is the ''only'' element of CGI in that shot. The sand-explosion behind the soldiers is real, caused by carefully timed explosives placed under the dunes, which certainly must have encouraged the actors to run like hell--the looks of fear on their faces are 100% genuine. The overwhelming majority of explosions, flying cars, and broken buildings in the movie are similarly real effects, not CGI.

* Scorponok is the only Transformer in the movie whose name is not spoken or stated in any way.

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==Footnotes==
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Hot Shot (Armada)

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{{Template:Disambig2|the prominent UT character|the RID Spychanger|Hot Shot (RID)}}

:''Hot Shot is an [[Autobot]] character from the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Hotshotut.gif|thumb|300px|I'm Optimus Prime's choice for successor. Scary what goes through the big guy's head, huh?]]

'''Hot Shot''' is the quintessential young hero. He's been around long enough to earn a name for himself and a place in [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]]'s entourage, but he's still too young to know when he's in over his head. In other words, he's blunt, overconfident, and naïve, yet brave, honorable, loyal to his friends, and willing to risk his life to stop the [[Decepticon]]s and help the Autobots. With time and experience, Prime believes, he could make an excellent leader, and Prime has appointed him to his command structure accordingly. Hot Shot's got the goods, but he just needs to pay attention for more than five seconds. Until that day, Hot Shot's likely response to most anything is, "Yeah yeah, like, whatever."

Hot Shot's [[Mini-Con]] partner is [[Jolt (Armada)|'''Jolt''']], though he has been known to moonlight with [[Mirage (Armada)|'''Mirage''']].

:''Japanese ''Micron Legend'' name'': '''Hot Rod'''<br>
:''Japanese ''Galaxy Force'' name'': '''Exillion/Exigeyser'''
:''Hungarian'' Energon ''and'' Cybertron ''name'': '''Tűzgolyó''' ("Fireball") <ref>On the ''Ultimate Battle DVD'' special he's called '''Nagyágyú''' which ''is'' the correct translation of Hot Shot, only it was the name originally given to Hot ''Rod''.</ref>

==Fiction==
===Dreamwave comics continuity===
====''Armada''====
One million years ago, Hot Shot was a member of the Autobots, the guardians of [[Cyber City]]. Soon news of a warlike faction called [[Decepticon]]s, led by the power-hungry [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]], reached Cyber City via a dying [[Mini-Con]] Hot Shot found. The Mini-Con handed him a video disc and with his dying breath, demanded Hot Shot take it to Optimus Prime. Optimus Prime played the disc, a distress signal from [[Leader-1]], head of [[Mini-Con Sector|Mini-Con village D10]], who begged the Autobots for help.

[[Image:Hotshotraizeyes.jpg|left|thumb|Hot Shot watches in horror as [[Demolishor (Armada)|Demolishor]] buys the last can of [[jaAm]].]]

The Decepticons themselves soon arrived in Cyber City, armed with Mini-Cons they had captured and reconfigured to bestow incredible power when [[Powerlinx]]ed. Outclassed and near total defeat, Optimus Prime called his troops into retreat, and after the majority of Mini-Cons escaped [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to parts unknown, the Autobots lost much of the planet to the Mini-Con-powered Decepticons.

In the present day, both the Autobots and Decepticons received a signal of the Mini-Cons' activation on the planet [[Earth]]. Hot Shot and his colleagues [[Scavenger (Armada)|Scavenger]], [[Red Alert (Armada)|Red Alert]], and [[Smokescreen (Armada)|Smokescreen]] were led by Optimus Prime to the planet, where they met the Decepticons in battle. But this time, with the help of the estranged Mini-Cons, the Autobots regained the edge they lost against the Decepticons one million years prior. An uneasy alliance was formed, and Hot Shot was partnered with the Mini-Con [[Jolt (Armada)|Jolt]]. {{storylink|Armada_%28Dreamwave_comic%29#Volume_1:_First_Contact|First Contact}}

After this initial battle on Earth, Megatron is quick to capture the [[Air Defense Mini-Con Team]] and forge them into the [[Star Saber (Armada)|Star Saber sword]]. Optimus Prime led Hot Shot and Red Alert against the Decepticons again, despite being at a strategic disadvantage while the Mini-Cons were missing, a point Hot Shot belabored. Thankfully, the Autobot-allied Mini-Cons arrived just in time to Powerlinx with Hot Shot and the other Autobots, fend off Megatron, and rescue the Air Defense Mini-Cons from the Decepticon leader's clutches.

[[Image:Hotshotguido.jpg|thumb|200px|"Well, let's go!"]]

Soon, a Mini-Con beacon tower was erected in [[Tranquility, Kansas]], drawing all Earth-bound Mini-Cons to it. Hot Shot and the rest of the Autobots again met the Decepticons in battle at the location when the tower's effect was discovered. However, they were too busy fighting to notice the beacon tower blasting off toward the Earth's [[Moon (moon)|moon]]. Hot Shot and Red Alert secreted Optimus Prime into the Decepticon base for the use of their space bridge, so that the Autobot leader could ask for reinforcements from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{storylink|Armada_%28Dreamwave_comic%29#Volume_2:_Fortress|Fortress}}

After the Mini-Cons were evacuated from the moon, five did not return home safely and sent a distress signal from northern Alaska. When the [[Adventure Mini-Con Team]] failed to retrieve them, Hot Shot and the other Autobots arrived in full force, though they were kept in check by Cyclonus, who was suffering from a Mini-Con overdose. Though they were successful, Optimus Prime disappeared before their eyes, and when Hot Shot returned to Autobase, he found [[Optimus Prime (Worlds Collide)|an Optimus Prime]], dying, sent from another timeline to warn of [[Unicron]]'s coming. Learning of the "real" Optimus Prime's disappearance, Megatron and his Decepticons stormed Autobase, nearly killing Smokescreen and heavily injuring Hot Shot, Red Alert, and Scavenger.

Optimus Prime was returned to them and insisted on teaming up with the Decepticons to battle the arriving Unicron. Hot Shot excused himself from this alliance, as Smokescreen's critical condition due to the Decepticons' recent attack still weighed heavily in his mind. So when Megatron stole away during the battle with Unicron to strike a deal with the Dark God, Hot Shot, Scavenger, and Red Alert ambushed him, leaving him to die as Unicron was seemingly destroyed by the [[Mini-Con Matrix]]. {{storylink|Armada_%28Dreamwave_comic%29#Volume_3:_Worlds_Collide|Worlds Collide}}

====''Energon''====
[[Image:Hotshotironhidedw.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Sorry, Hot Shot, you've been replaced.]]

Ten years later, at the beginning of the Energon Era, Hot Shot accompanied Optimus Prime, who was skeptical and restless about the new peacetime, on his visit with the High Council in Cyber City. Prime's demands for vigilance were denied, so Hot Shot later followed him to a special [[uplink platform]] that [[Over-Run (Armada)|Over-Run]] had directed them to. This trip was a first outing for the rookie Autobot [[Ironhide (Energon)|Ironhide]], who fawned over Hot Shot. Hot Shot met this with difficulty. Learning of the continued existence of [[Unicron]], Prime once again returned to the High Council, again accompanied by Hot Shot. But this time, Cyber City was attacked by [[Cheetor (Armada)|Cheetor]], [[Rhinox (Armada)|Rhinox]], [[Airazor (Armada)|Airazor]], and [[Terrorsaur (Armada)|Terrorsaur]], who were presumed dead during the [[Unicron Battles]], but in fact were transformed into Unicron's [[Beasts of the Apocalypse]]. The Horsemen were deterred when Hot Shot and the other Autobots were granted the [[Spark of Combination]].

Hot Shot followed Prime to Earth after a distress signal was received. [[Scorponok (Energon)|Scorponok]] and his [[Terrorcon (Energon)|Terrorcons]] were after a young boy who could detect [[Energon]] named [[Kicker]]. The Terrorcons outclassed them, however, and left only when their Energon-mining gear was destroyed, but not without taking Kicker. After the Autobots reunited with [[Rad]] and [[Alexis]], Hot Shot and the [[Omnicon]] [[Strongarm (Energon|Strongarm]] were able to pursue the Terrorcons and deliver a special suit to Kicker that his father, [[Doctor Jones|Dr. Jones]], had made for him. With Kicker's help, the Terrorcons were defeated and returned to Unicron.
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===Animated continuity===
====''Armada''====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Brent Miller]] (US), [[Kōsuke Okano]] (Japan), [[Alexandre Moreno]] (Brazil)

[[Image:Hotshotarmada.jpg|right|200px|thumb|He grins because he's too stupid to be sad.]]

An indeterminate number of years ago on Cybertron, Hot Shot and the Autobot [[Wheeljack_(Armada)|Wheeljack]] were amidst a fiery battlefield blaze. Wheeljack was incapacitated, so Hot Shot left him, promising to get help. However, his [[Arrogant Autobot officer|commander]] would not let him return to help his friend. Instead, Wheeljack was rescued by [[Megatron_(Armada)|Megatron]] and swore vengeance against Hot Shot and the Autobots.

When [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] received the [[Mini-Con]] distress signal, Hot Shot was one of two soldiers he brought with him to Earth to investigate. He soon scanned the form of an Earth sports car and partnered with the Mini-Con [[Jolt (Armada)|Jolt]]. {{storylink|Base}}

When all three Mini-Cons that combine to form the [[Star Saber (Armada)|Star Saber]] sword were collected, Optimus assigned them to Hot Shot. The Autobot was young, inexperienced, and hotheaded, so the great advantage the Star Saber granted him went straight to his ego. With the sword, he was nearly unbeatable on the battlefield until a Decepticon named [[Scavenger (Armada)|Scavenger]] taught him the hard way that power without skill was useless against an experienced opponent. Hot Shot's naïvety was his downfall. The double-agent [[Sideways]] tricked Hot Shot out of the sword, and Hot Shot was beaten nearly to death by his frustrated opponents. {{storylink|Overmatch}}

[[Image:Hotshotstarsaber.jpg|250px|left|thumb|He loves his Star Saber sword. It's so bad.]]

Wheeljack returned to Hot Shot's life, seeking revenge. The new Autobot recruit [[Side Swipe (Armada)|Side Swipe]] was caught up in Wheeljack's vendetta, so Hot Shot protected Side Swipe as best he could, hoping not to repeat his past mistakes. Wheeljack was deterred, but promised he'd be around later to revisit his ill will. {{storylink|Past, Part 1}}
[[Image:Hotshot superboyprime.jpg|thumb|"If I can't have Optimus back, I'll ruin the end of [[Wikipedia:Batman: Hush|Batman: Hush]] for everyone!"]]
When Optimus Prime sacrificed himself to save Earth, Hot Shot was put in command. Hot Shot declined to take the Matrix of Leadership, which marked the beginning of a very unassertive and indecisive administration. It was also short, as Optimus Prime returned to life after not too long. {{storylink|Remorse}}

The Decepticons managed to take over Cybertron. [[Unicron]], the Chaos Bringer, was looming over their planet, but [[Megatron (Armada)|Galvatron]] (previously Megatron) would not listen to Optimus Prime's pleas to unite their two factions against him. Hot Shot decided to take matters into his own hands and fought his way through the Decepticon base and countless Decepticon warriors to reach Galvatron and reason with him. If it were not for Wheeljack's intervention, he might not have survived. Under the Autobot/Decepticon alliance, Wheeljack's hatred of Hot Shot seemed to soften, and the two learned to trust each other again. {{storylink|Dash (Armada episode)}}

After the destruction of Unicron and the defeat of Galvatron, Optimus Prime felt he had failed as Autobot Leader, and with the end of the conflict between the two factions, he exiled himself to parts unknown. Hot Shot and [[Jetfire_(Armada)|Jetfire]] were left in charge of the Transformers. {{storylink|Mortal Combat}}

====Energon====
:''Voice Actor(s):'' [[Brent Miller]] (US), [[Kōsuke Toriumi]] (Japan)<br>

[[Image:Hotshotenergoncartoon.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Hot Shot always forgets he's not supposed to shoot at the humans.]]

Hot Shot would find himself stationed on Earth as the commander of [[Ocean City]] while Optimus Prime was away training new soldiers on Cybertron. Though he had matured since the threat of Unicron, Hot Shot was still a young soldier with a large mass of responsibility placed on his shoulders.

Hot Shot often clashed with Kicker and Ironhide, the latter seeing Hot Shot as his idol, and was often paired with [[Inferno (Energon)|Inferno]] as his Powerlink partner. It wasn't until the arrival of Hot Shot's former commander and idol, [[Rodimus (Energon)|Rodimus]], that he would question his own allegiances. Not moved by Rodimus' plea to help him to resurrect [[Unicron]], Hot Shot threatened to open fire, only to be struck down by Rodimus. After Rodimus saved Hot Shot's life, he regretted his quick judgment. The relationship between Hot Shot and Rodimus was eventually restored and they become Powerlink partners.

Hot Shot continued to serve under Optimus Prime, surviving many battles on Cybertron and other worlds. Along with several other Autobots, Hot Shot was injured when the reborn Unicron destroyed a fledgling planet in the reformed Q-system. Hot Shot was reformatted into a slick silver body along with his Autobot comrades. He eventually merged his [[spark]] with that of [[Optimus Supreme]] and his partners in the final battle with [[Megatron (Armada)|Galvatron]].

====Cybertron====
:''Voice Actor(s):'' [[Kirby Morrow]] (US), [[Daisuke Hirakawa]] (Japan)<br>
:''Special attacks:'' Accel Wing, Double X Shot, Battle Dagger

[[Image:Hotshotcybertron.jpg|thumb|left|250px|He knows kung-fu.]]

When [[Unicron]]'s destruction resulted in a black hole that threatened the Transformers' home planet of Cybertron, Optimus Prime ordered the planet to retreat into hiding on Earth. Hot Shot took the form of a blue Earth sports car.

This form came in handy when Optimus reassigned Hot Shot and [[Red_Alert (Armada)|Red Alert]] to search for [[Velocitron]]'s [[Cyber Planet Key]]. He quickly developed a competitive bond with [[Override (Cybertron)|Override]], the leader of Velocitron. Against Red Alert's warnings, Hot Shot joined the Great Race. Hot Shot pushed himself beyond his means, almost to the point of destruction, but no matter how he tried, he could never defeat Override. The constant racing took a noticeable toll on his body. Was he really doing this to win the Key or just to prove to himself he was still the fastest in the galaxy?

Hot Shot was in big trouble when Optimus arrived on Velocitron and found out what he was up to. But Optimus Prime changed his mind when he realized that winning the race was the only way to win the Key. With the Autobots' full support and [[Coby]]'s help, Hot Shot won the Great Race and the Cyber Planet Key.

Later, Hot Shot, Red Alert and [[Scattorshot]] faced [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] alone when the Decepticon leader returned to Earth thristing for revenge against the treacherous Starscream. Humiliating the Decepticon in combat, Megatron, enraged, used his new Omega Lock-powered Death Machine Gun on the three Autobots, crippling them beyond repair. {{Storylink|Revelations}}

[[Image:CDHotShot_fists.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Now we know why his shoulders hurt]]

Fortunately, the powers of Primus acting through the [[Omega Lock]] bathed the trio in the creator's holy light, repairing and reformatting the young Autobot into '''Cybertron Defense Hot Shot.''' Along with his newly reformatted friends, the [[Cybertron Defense Team]] arrived on the battlefield and easily defeated the Decepticons Scourge and Megatron. {{Storylink|Critical}}

As Optimus Prime and the other Autobots dealt with Starscream and Megatron's forces, the Cybertron Defense Team was sent on an advance mission to Planet Cybertron. Hot Shot and his fellow team members had to blast their way through a debris field littering the Space Bridge path to Cybertron, during the course of which Hot Shot's vision was obscured by a thick oily substance excreted out of an asteroid as it exploded.

When the unit finally arrived on Cybertron, they were shocked to discover the planet overrun with the parasitic [[Scrapmetal drone]]s, and quickly had to fight their way through legions of the robotic pests. {{Storylink|United}}

Much later on [[Gigantion]] the Cybertron Defense Team was caught in [[Soundwave (Cybertron)|Soundwave]]'s smokescreen, but they managed to figure out the mysterious agent's mind games and defeat him.

After Override resigned from leadership of Velocitron in order to travel to a new world, Hot Shot won the race to determine who would be her successor, despite his bulky new body.

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==Toys==
===Armada===
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[[Image:Hotshotarmadatoy.jpg|thumb|225px|My LifE iS pAiN.]]
*'''Hot Shot''' (Super-Con, 2002/2003)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''MC-03'''
**''Accessories'': Missile, engine-block

: ''Armada'' Hot Shot transforms into a modified yellow Audi TT. He is packaged with [[Mini-Con]] [[Jolt (Armada)|Jolt]], who, when attached to the [[powerlinx]] port on Hot Shot's rear, deploys his rear axle over the back of his head and (in the same motion) fires a missile from his hubcap. Jolt's gun can either attach to Hot Shot's robot mode chest or unveil "driving claws" from Hot Shot's front bumper by attaching to Hot Shot's car mode hood as his engine. Hot Shot's visor can also flip over his face.

: "Hot Rod," [[Takara]]'s ''Micron Legend'' version of Hot Shot, was released in altered colors, with a more saturated yellow and some dark gray paint in places instead of navy blue. Additionally, more of the belt straps on his chest were painted silver, his pelvis was painted a darker red, and there was clearer paint on his Autobot symbol. A [[retool]] (or vice versa) of [[Hasbro]]'s Hot Shot, his right arm houses a light-up LED (for accommodating the translucent Star Saber sword) that glows when his side-view mirror is pressed, a feature that was dropped from the American version due to price-point concerns.

: This mold was [[redeco]]ed and [[retool]]ed for the [[#ArDxPx|"Powerlinx" Hot Shot]] version of the character. That retool was scheduled to be [[redeco]]ed for ''[[Universe (franchise)|Universe]]'' "[[Battle in a Box]]" [[Smokescreen (BIAB)|Smokescreen]], but that set was canceled.

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*'''Hot Rod w/ Jolt and Air Defense Microns''' (2002)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''MS-01'''
**''Accessories'': Missile, engine-block

: Takara's Hot Rod was also released in a box set with the [[Air Defense Mini-Con Team]]. Each item in the set is identical to their individual versions.

* '''Hot Shot''' (Happy Meal, 2002)

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*'''Powerlinx Hot Shot''' (Super-Con, 2003)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''MC-13'''
**''Accessories'': Missile, engine-block
[[Image:Hotshotpowerlinx.jpg|left|thumb|i eAt yOuR bAbIEs!!]]

: A red, yellow, and black [[redeco]] and [[retool]] of the first Hot Shot, Powerlinx Hot Shot has a new head that has a more "serious" look, though his visor, sculpted directly into the new head, is no longer articulated. Intended to be an [[homage]] to ''[[Generation 1]]'' [[Hot Rod]], he has a yellow spoiler and flames on his hood. Due to a factory error, his forehead is painted gray instead of left red. The Japanese version, "Hot Rod Super Mode," fixed this forehead mistake, painted the shoulder symbol more clearly, and retained the LED light-up arm the first Japanese version featured.

: Later in the line, a running change granted Powerlinx Hot Shot with a cleaner faction symbol. Rumors circulated that a Powerlinx Hot Shot with fixed forehead paint would surface later in the run, but this did not seem to happen, and no specimens with this fix have ever materialized.

: In November of 2003, US Toys "R" Us stores had special bonus pack Max-Con (Deluxe) toys, which came with a single bonus Mini-Con attached to the card over their sticker, for ''less'' than the price of a normal Max-Con during Toys "R" Us' post-Thanksgiving-day sale. Like Powerlinx [[Cyclonus (Armada)|Cyclonus]], Powerlinx Hot Shot could come with one of the [[Adventure Mini-Con Team]] members: [[Dune Runner]], [[Iceberg]] or [[Ransack (Armada)|Ransack]].

: This mold was scheduled to be [[redeco]]ed for ''[[Universe (franchise)|Universe]]'' "[[Battle in a Box]]" [[Smokescreen (BIAB)|Smokescreen]], but that set was canceled.

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*'''Hot Shot''' (Built to Rule, 2003)
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===Energon===
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*'''Hot Shot''' (Deluxe, 2004)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''SC-02'''
**''Accessories'': Launcher, missile, "radar" panel attachment
[[Image:Hotshotenergontoy.jpg|thumb|left|Hot Shot, part deux]]

: In ''Energon'', Hot Shot was updated as a modified yellow Aston-Martin Vanquish. He can carry a transparent red spring-loaded missile-launching weapon in either mode, and features a small Autobot [[spark crystal]] on his chest on which [[Energon chip]]s can be mounted. Like nearly all other Autobots in the ''Energon'' line, he can [[powerlinx]] with like-designed toys to form the top or bottom of a super robot.

: Takara released Hot Shot in similar colors, changing the slate blue plastic to a dark, nearly-black blue, dropping the black paint on his car roof, and adding metallic blue paint to his chest. His head is also a nearly-identical-but-different sculpt, most noticeably around the mouth, chin, and eyes. The reason for this is unknown.

: This mold was later redecoed to make the [[#EnDxEn|"Energon" powered-up version of the character]]. It was also [[retool]]ed to make the ''[[Timelines]]'' incarnation of [[Nightbeat (G1)#Timelines|Nightbeat]].

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* '''Hot Shot & Inferno''' (Multi-pack, 2003)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''SS-01'''
**''Accessories'': Launcher, missile, "radar" panel attachment

: In Japan, Takara released Hot Shot both individually and in a box set with [[Inferno (Energon)|Inferno]]. Both toys are identical to their individual releases.

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[[Image:Hotshotenergonenergontoy.jpg|thumb|He has a heart that burns for justice... and [[jaAm]].]]
*'''Energon Hot Shot''' (Deluxe, 2004)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''SC-23'''
**''Accessories'': Launcher, missile, "radar" panel attachment

: ''Energon'' Energon Hot Shot gave the car mode a silver-painted finish and the robot parts a dark blue, yellow, and red color scheme reminiscent of ''Armada'' Hot Shot's colors. Energon Hot Shot uses the Hasbro version of Hot Shot's head (see above).

: When he was released in Japan as "Hot Shot Fire," his car mode was changed to an unpainted silver, and additionally the yellow plastic was changed to a sherbet orange, the dark blue plastic to black, and the transparent orange plastic to a transparent crimson red. He also came packaged with the [[Energon_weapon#Energy_Cutter_.28Signal_Flare.29|Energy Cutter]], a transparent watermelon-red redeco of [[Signal Flare]]'s [[energon weapon]], plus a matching [[energon chip]]. Hot Shot Fire uses the Takara version of Hot Shot's head.

: This mold was [[retool]]ed to make the ''[[Timelines]]'' incarnation of [[Nightbeat (G1)#Timelines|Nightbeat]].

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===Cybertron===
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*'''Hot Shot''' (Deluxe Class, 2005)
**''Japanese ID number'': ''GC-02'''
**''Accessories'': Launcher, missile, Speed Planet Cyber Key
[[Image:Hotshotcybertrontoy.jpg|left|thumb|Hot Shot's Blue Period.]]

: An [[homage]] to [[Generation 1]] [[Hot Rod]] in design but not in color scheme, ''Cybertron'' Hot Shot transforms into a modified blue [[Wikipedia:Chrysler ME Four-Twelve|Chrysler ME Four-Twelve concept car]]. He comes with a [[Velocitron|Speed Planet]] [[Cyber Key]] that deploys transparent yellow wings from his spoiler when the key is inserted into the rear of the car. The toy also comes with a spring-loaded missile-launching gun that can be carried in robot mode or pegged into the roof of the car mode.

: The Japanese release, "Exillion," is completely identical other than a slight molding difference; two screws on either side of the spoiler are visible in the American release and all subsequent uses of the mold, but the original Japanese use of the mold had these screws buried. Though the Japanese release was treated as a separate character from Hot Shot, the toy was designed to be the character from ''Armada'' and ''Energon'', as evident by his head design and [[control art]] labeling him as such.

: This mold was used to make [[#CyDVD|Red Exillion (see below)]], [[Excellion]], and "[[Shattered Glass]]" [[Goldbug (Shattered Glass)|Goldbug]].

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*'''Hot Shot''' (Legends of Cybertron, 2005/2006)

: A smaller, simplified version of ''Cybertron'' Hot Shot was released as part of the first wave of ''[[Legends of Cybertron]]'' toys.

: This mold was used to make a [[#CyLoC2|second Legends of Cybertron Hot Shot (see below)]], ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' [[Bumblebee (G1)#ClLoC|Bumblebee]], and ''[[Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' [[Red Alert (G1)#LoC|Red Alert]].

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[[Image:Hotshotcybertrondefensetoy.jpg|right|thumb|He's full of tiny missiles. Bubbles, not so much.]]
*'''Cybertron Defense Hot Shot''' (Deluxe Class, 2005)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''GC-19'''
**''Accessories'': Sword, Cybertron Autobot Cyber Key, Scrapmetal standee (Takara release only)

: Cybertron Defense Hot Shot transforms into a modified [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1117_Armored_Security_Vehicle M1117 Guardian Armored Security Vehicle], in the same blue, navy, and red color scheme as the previous ''Cybertron'' Hot Shot. A [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] Cyber Key is included and when the key is inserted into the back of the turret, the two gun barrels open up into dual (non-firing) missile launchers. Compartments on his shoulders and his thighs can also open up to reveal additional missile launchers. Cybertron Defense Hot Shot also comes with a dagger that stows between his legs in vehicle mode, and when in robot mode, the dagger can be hand-held, peg into the front of his fist, or be put away in a sheath on his leg.

: "Exigeyser," Cybertron Defense Hot Shot's Japanese counterpart, is completely identical, but also came with a cardboard standup depicting three [[Scrapmetal drone]]s. The American version of Cybertron Defense Hot Shot was at some point intended to have a slightly altered deco, which is shown on the back of the packaging, but this altered deco for some reason never superseded the Japanese deco for American release.

: This mold was also used to make ''[[Timelines]]'' [[Springer#BC07|Springer]].

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*'''Red Exillion''' (DVD exclusive, 2005)
**''Accessories'': Launcher, missile, Speed Planet Cyber Key
[[Image:Redexillion.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Someone had to sell porn to afford this.]]

:Red Exillion is a redeco of the ''Cybertron'' Hot Shot toy in red, dark red, and orange, with transparent blue. Limited to 500, it came with the first ''Galaxy Force'' DVD and an empty box set to prepare against the next few ''Galaxy Force'' DVD releases. This redeco took advantage of the toy's homage to ''Generation 1'' Hot Rod, completing the homage with appropriate colors, though the toy is still treated as Hot Shot in Hot Rod colors and not as a Hot Rod toy.

:Before the toy saw official release, several advance test shots entered the market, though in a [http://tfkenkon.com/collection/act368/ slightly altered color treatment] than the final. Originally, the dark red was a brighter red.

:This toy was the indirect inspiration for ''Cybertron'' [[Excellion]]. (The direct inspiration, of course, being the original Hot Rod.) It was also used to make "[[Shattered Glass]]" [[Goldbug (Shattered Glass)|Goldbug]].
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*'''Hot Shot''' (Legends of Cybertron, 2006)
[[Image:LOCExcellion.jpg|right|thumb|WhErE JAam!1?/]]

: A redeco of [[Legends of Cybertron]] Hot Shot uses Excellion's approximate coloration and paint scheme; however, the toy is not actually labelled "Excellion", merely "Hot Shot". The reason for this is unclear.

: This mold was later repainted into ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]] Legends'' [[Bumblebee (G1)#ClLoC|Bumblebee]], and ''[[Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' [[Red Alert (G1)#LoC|Red Alert]].
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===Attacktix===
[[Image:Attacktix_CybHotShot.jpg|right|thumb|yAy, jaAm shOoToR!!1]]

*'''Hot Shot''' (Booster, 2006)
**''Attacktix ID number'': '''TF09'''

: Part of the first assortment of ''[[Attacktix]]'' Booster Packs, Hot Shot is a "Super Rare" 40-point Warrior-class piece with a spring-loaded "shield-missile" attack. His Special Power "Rally" allows you to return one of your previously-defeated [[Autobot]] pieces back into play. The figure commonly has a black base, but like all Boosters, a rarer chrome-silver-base version was randomly packed into boxes as well.

: This mold was also used to make ''Attacktix'' Excellion, who was also a wave-1 Booster piece.

===Merchandise===
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*'''Hot Rod''' (Super Collection Figure, 2002)
[[Image:Hotshotscf.jpg|left|thumb|[[JaAm]] in stereo.]]

: A PVC figure of Hot Shot was available in Act 9 of [[Takara]]'s [[Super Collection Figure]] series in both full color and solid-pewter finish. All SCF figures were [[blindpacked]] and came with a little stand.

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*'''Hot Rod''' (Mega Super Collection Figure, 2002)
[[Image:MegaSCFHotRod.jpg|right|thumb|wh3rE jAm cOpToR?]]

: Mega SCF Hot Rod is a larger, articulated non-transforming PVC action figure of Hot Shot, based upon his cartoon model. He came with his engine gun and a small, non-transformable PVC figurine of his [[Mini-Con]] partner, [[Jolt (Armada)|Jolt]].

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*'''Hot Shot''' (Bubble Twist, 2003)
[[Image:Hotshotbubbletwist.jpg|left|thumb|Taste the [[JaAm]] rainbow.]]

:In 2003, Toys "R" Us carried a line of candy toys called [[Bubble Twist]], which dispensed gum from its capsule-shaped container when twisted. Also contained in the capsule was an unpainted rubber figurine of a ''[[G.I. Joe]]'' or ''Transformers [[Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' character, including Hot Shot. Blindpacked, each figure came in several different possible colors.

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*'''Hot Rod''' (Big Transformers)

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*Die-cast car Hot Shot

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*Hot Shot puzzle

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*Hot Shot backpack

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==Trivia==
[[Image:Hotshotprotocolor.jpg|right|thumb|150px|WhY mY SHoUldErS HuRt?]]

*[[#ArDx1|''Armada'' Hot Shot's toy]] had to be completely re-engineered close to release. Due to a structural flaw (and gravity), Hot Shot's arms were not able to attach securely to his shoulders. Furthermore, designer [[Aaron Archer]] felt the early design's wide, football player-like physique was inappropriate to the character archetype. Changes were made last-minute to the design to rework the transformation of the arms, necessitating the dropping of some articulation and the addition of [[kibble]] elsewhere to compensate.

[[Image:ArcherSays.jpg|right|thumb|150px|Lay off the [[JaAm]], pal.]]

*''Armada'' Hot Shot's infamous "[[JaAm]]" grin was actually a misinterpretation of Aaron Archer's original concept art which depicted Hot Shot clenching his teeth together in an open-lipped, determined expression. The head of the original tooling had a maniacal, perhaps unhinged-looking smile in response to this concept art, so the grin was scaled back on the final toy. The grin was removed completely and replaced with a neutral, stern expression when the head was resculpted for [[#ArDxPx|Powerlinx Hot Shot]].

* The rear axle (the "Axelzooka") on the original Hot Shot figure has sculpted shock absorbers in an interesting display of attention to detail. However, they are sculpted 90 degrees in the wrong direction, which would make them useless in reality.

* According to the [[Transformers (Melbourne House)|''Armada'' Playstation 2 game]] instruction booklet, Hot Shot's ''Armada'' body has the following statistics:
:*Mass: 3,109 lbs
:*Robot height: 16' 5"
:*Robot top speed: 50 mph
:*Vehicle height: 5' 11"
:*Vehicle top speed: 186 mph
:*Vehicle power: 400 hp @ 8000 rpm

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==References and footnotes==
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==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/2002/Autobot/HotShot/hotshot.htm Hot Shot at TFU.info]

*[http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20050406.html Shotrpacked! - Where Optimus prime explains why he keeps Hot Shot around.]

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Spiral

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:''Spiral is a [[Mini-Con]] from the [[Armada]] portion of the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Spiral-anime.jpg|300px|right|thumb|Fat bottomed girls, you make the rockin' world go 'round.]]

'''Spiral''' leads the [[Street Speed Mini-Con Team]], which isn't an easy task considering her teammates' personalities. But she's a tough one, the fastest, smartest, and strongest of the Team, who won't hesitate to verbally --or physically-- put someone in their place. She's garnered a bit of a reputation for having a short temper, but she's got the muscle to back up her aggression.

:''Japanese ''Armada'' name'': '''Sieg'''<br>
:''Japanese ''Cybertron'' name'': '''Gagenda'''

==Fiction==
===Animated continuity===
====Armada cartoon====
[[Image:Fred Spiral01.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Fat bottomed boys, you make the cars slump to the ground.]]

Spiral's [[Mini-Con storage panel]] was detected underground, near a major highway under construction. Both [[Autobot]] and [[Decepticon]] braved battle and heavy traffic to retrieve the panel. The Decepticons, thanks to the digging strength of [[Scavenger (Armada)|Scavenger]] (who was in reality an Autobot agent undercover) came close to obtaining it, but the arrival of the mysterious [[Sideways]] tipped the battle in favor of the Autobots, and with [[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot's]] newfound skill with the [[Star Saber (Armada)|Star Saber]], the Decepticons were forced to retreat and Spiral was saved.

Back at the Autobot base, while [[Billy (Armada)|Billy]] was getting dirt-bike rides on Sideways, Spiral offered to give a ride to [[Fred (Armada)|Fred]], who was moping about missing all the fun. Fred accepted, but quickly regretted his decision and commenced with the whining. {{storylink|Gale}}

:''('''Note''': Spiral's model shows up many many times in various colors in various group shots of Mini-Cons, often several in the same shot. It's safest to assume that Spiral is the one rescued in the tunnel, and all the others are just Mini-Cons with similar bodyforms, a not uncommon occurrence at all.)''

===Dreamwave comics continuity===
====Armada====
Spiral and the rest of the Street Speed Team were among the Mini-Cons who lived on [[Earth]]'s [[Moon (planet)|Moon]], until [[Dualor]] brought the Earth-based Mini-Cons there, which also brought the [[Decepticon]]s. Spiral and the others escaped in a rocket-pod that crashed in north Alaska, leaving them deactivated. Ultimately the Autobots were successful in retrieving the pod.

Spiral returned to Cybertron and helped [[Over-Run (Armada)|Over-Run]] activate the [[Mini-Con Matrix]], which dealt a critical blow to [[Unicron]].

===Cybertron toy bios===
The Street Speed Team were sent to [[Velocitron]] as advance scouts for the Autobots. The planet's mass of winding high-speed tracks really appealed to them, to the point where they started having a hard time tearing themselves from the road to get their missions underway.

==Toys==
===Armada===
*'''Street Speed Mini-Con Team''' (Basic, 2003)
:''Japanese ID number'': '''MM-06'''

: Spiral transforms into a Mercedes C-Class luxury car, available only in a three-pack with [[Backtrack]] and [[Oval]]. Like her fellow Street Speed Mini-Con Team members, her car mode wheels are designed to allow for much faster rolling on smooth surfaces.

: This mold was also used to make [[Servo]], and ''Armada'' [[Skid-Z (Armada)|Skid-Z]]. It was planned to be used for ''[[Energon (franchise)|Energon]]'' [[Clocker (Energon)|Clocker]] and packed with [[Ultra Magnus (Energon)|Ultra Magnus]], but that release was changed late in the production run and given a different Mini-Con Team.

*'''Silverbolt and Turbo with Speed Micron'''
:''Japanese ID number'': '''MS-05'''

*'''Sieg Overdrive Edition''' (Mini-Con, 2003)

: Individual members of the "Overdrive Edition" [[redeco]] of the Team were given away at the 17-day Japanese "World Hobby Fair" in January/February. In April, they were also available as random giveaways at Ito Yokaido stores with the purchase of any ''Micron Legend'' product.

===Cybertron===
*'''Street Speed Mini-Con Team''' (Basic-class, 2005)
:''Japanese ID number'': '''GC-08'''

: A [[retool]]ing of the first Spiral mold, she now transforms into a highly-modified Mercedes. She was only available in a three-pack with her teammates.

: This version of the mold was used to make ''Cybertron'' [[Jack (Cybertron)|Jack]].

===Unreleased===
: A red-and-white redeco of Spiral was planned to be released as part of a “refresh” version of the Street Speed Team in ''Armada''. The coloration of the Team was a “one-off” of the Takara Overdrive Edition version, with each toy’s main color shifted over to another one.

==Trivia==
* For whatever reason, the Street Speed Team is the only ''Armada'' Mini-Con Team to not have an [[X-Dimension]] release.

* The Japanese ''Galaxy Force'' version of the Street Speed Team is one of the very few mass-retail "new"-mold Japanese Transformers toys to not show up in the accompanying cartoon.

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/2002/Mini-Con/Spiral/spiral.htm Spiral at TFU.info]

*[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_frm/thread/1f9c59d048679ab2/7fd6659c76215153?lnk=st&q=spiral+sieg+doug+dlin+group%3Aalt.toys.transformers&rnum=2&hl=en#7fd6659c76215153 ATT post re-evaluating some questionable Japanese TF names, including "Sieg"]

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Thundercracker (G1)

2007-10-02T18:49:20Z

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:''Thundercracker is a [[Decepticon]] character in the [[Generation 1]] continuity family.''

[[Image:Thundercrackerg1guido.jpg|300px|right|thumb|The blue one. No, the ''other'' blue one.]]

'''Thundercracker''' claims the skies as his arena. He looks down in contempt on those who cannot leave the ground -- he considers them lesser beings. He will often attack the flightless beings below him for no other reason than to satisfy his scorn.

His superiority in this realm is the only thing he is sure of. Thundercracker is not entirely committed to the Decepticon cause, and even has some seemingly contradictory sympathy for the [[human]]s they terrorize. Fear of retribution from [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] and the influence of his peers is usually enough to bury these doubts. Regardless, he needs constant reassurance that he's where he needs to be. Sometimes, his heart's just not in the job.

:''French-Canadian name'': '''Coup de Tonnerre'''<br>
:''Italian name'': '''Vampiro'''
:''Hungarian name'': '''Villámcsapás''' (meaning Lightning strike)

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
''(Note: Events from the UK comics are marked in italics.)''
[[Image:Skywarpthundercrackerintroduction.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Thundercracker is the one that is not Skywarp.]]
Thundercracker was one of [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron's]] troops who attacked the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] during its mission to clear a path for [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] through an asteroid field. He was deactivated when it crashed on [[Earth]], and he lay dormant for four million years. When he and his fellow Decepticons awoke, Thundercracker was given a new [[altmode]], that of an Earth jet. {{storylink|The Transformers (comic issue)}} He aided the Decepticons in their building of their new base constructed of parts from [[Harrison Nuclear Power Plant]] and joined in their attack on [[Sparkplug Witwicky]]'s auto repair shop. After the successful abduction of Sparkplug Witwicky, Thundercracker, [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], and [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] defended their base from [[Autobot]]s, though [[Gears]] and [[Spider-Man]] were able to sneak through and rescue Sparkplug. {{storylink|Prisoner of War!}}

Though Sparkplug Witwicky was able to devise a way for the Decepticons to convert Earth fuel into a usable substance, he also poisoned the result, so Thundercracker and his fellow Decepticons were immobilized at the climax of their would-be final battle with the Autobots. {{storylink|The Last Stand}} The Decepticon [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] took command of the Decepticons and the Ark shortly thereafter, and nursed Thundercracker and his comrades back to full health. Thundercracker may have helped Shockwave attempt to capture and brainwash [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] into a Decepticon, or it may have been Skywarp with red stripes. It's hard to tell. {{storylink|Plight of the Bumblebee!}}

He served the Decepticon cause up until he was deactivated while battling [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] and placed in prison stasis at Autobot headquarters.

''Like [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] and [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]], he revived early and soon quickly escaped from the Ark. He, Frenzy and [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] were then temporarily displaced to [[Limbo]] when [[Hot Rod]], [[Kup]] and [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] time-jumped from 2006.''

During a massive battle between the Autobots and Decepticons on Earth's moon, Skywarp and the other Decepticons held in stasis aboard the Ark were liberated by the [[Constructicon]]s and subsequently brought back on-line. {{storylink|Totalled!}} Much later, Thundercracker attacked an [[Underbase]]-powered Starscream in [[Tokyo]], but both he and Skywarp were destroyed by their former flying partner. {{storylink|Dark Star!}}

===Animated continuity===
:''Voice actor:'' [[John Stephenson]], ''[[Wally Burr]]'' (US), [[Yutaka Shimaka]] (Japan)

[[Image:Tetrajet seekers.jpg|thumb|Cybertron alt-mode (on the right). Out of all the pre-earth alt modes, these pyramid jets seem to be the only ones anyone really cares about.]]

Thundercracker was one of [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron's]] elite warriors, participating in the attack on the [[Ark]] and joining the rest of the Earth-bound Transformers in their several-million-year nap under an inactive volcano. He awoke when the rest of the Decepticons did, and took part in their attempts to gather [[energon]] and escape the planet [[Earth]], which he loathed for being too "flat". It was he and [[Reflector]] who spotted the first "potential Autobot", when in fact they had discovered the planet's native inhabitants, two [[human]]s, in an unliving vehicle.{{storylink|More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1}}

One of the few things he seemed to loathe even more than the world he was stranded on was the attitude of his commander, [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. Thundercracker often started fights with the [[Air Commander]], usually over whether or not Megatron's latest plan was a waste of time (Thundercracker took Megatron's side). At one point, Thundercracker's distaste for "that geeky Starscream" became so strong that he was willing to let [[Jetfire (G1)|Skyfire]] destroy one of the Decepticons' greatest weapons, just in the hopes that Starscream would get blamed for it!{{storylink|Fire on the Mountain}} Despite these brushes with treachery, however, Thundercracker just never had it in him to do anything more than complain about his fellow Decepticons.

[[Image:Thundercrackerg1.jpg|left|thumb|FLINTSTONE, YOU'RE FIRED!!!]]

Thundercracker was present for the Decepticon assault on [[Autobot City]] in 2005. After the battle, the injured Thundercracker was tossed out of [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] with the rest of the injured and weakened warriors, who were jettisoned for ballast in order to preserve fuel.

That was not, however, entirely the end of Thundercracker's story. [[Unicron]] was waiting in space for a chance like this, and when the newly reborn [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] needed some new troops to command, Thundercracker was among the corpses chosen to use as raw materials. His body was used to create [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]], and was thus given a new lease on life.{{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie (1986)}}

Later [[Octane]] would show concern when he ran into a [[Decepticon Crypt]] to hide from some attackers and found a statue of Thundercracker there. After paying his respects and apologizing for the intrusion, Octane decided it would be better to hide behind someone else's statue.{{storylink|Starscream's Ghost}}

====''Robot Masters'' online mini-comics====

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===''Machine Wars'' toy bio===

The mysterious [[Machine Wars]] were a tumultuous time for Thundercracker. At long last he was convinced of and committed to the truth of the Decepticon cause, but Thundercracker now ironically found himself in open rebellion against Megatron's leadership of the faction. It is unknown what events lead to his reversal of heart about the Decepticons and his being branded a "Rebel Warrior." ''(Since no fictional backstory has ever been established for the Machine Wars line it is possible that it is set in some alternate reality where this was simply Thundercracker's nature, but given that the rest of the characters are clearly their classic G1-selves unrevealed events/character development seem more likely explanations).''

===Dreamwave comics continuity===

One of the first Decepticons recruited by Megatron. Early Megatron's scheming, Thundercracker was sent to Sector Zero-Six with Skywarp and Starscream. On the way, Starscream unintelligently leaked the plan to Grimlock. {{storylink|DW Preview Special 2002}}

Thundercracker was one of several Decepticon invaders onboard the ''[[Ark]]'' when it crashed into [[Earth]] four million years ago while the Autobot ship was clearing an asteroid in the path of Cybertron.

In 2002, he was one of several Transformers who survived the disastrous launch of the sabotaged ''Ark II'', and was later captured and reprogrammed by arms dealer [[Lazarus|Adam 'Lazarus' Rook]], who intended to rent out the services of the enslaved robots to various terrorist groups. In a demonstration of their power to a group of prospective clients, Thundercracker participated in an attack on the Artic division of the Smitco Oil Refinery by blowing something up. {{Storylink|Prime Directive, Part 2}}

After Megatron reactivated himself, he freed his Decepticon subordinates in order to put forward his plans to infect Earth with a metallic virus of doom. To pass the time while this happened, Starscream, Thundercracker and Skywarp busied themselves by tearing apart the Autobot Minicar team. {{Storylink|Prime Directive, Part 3}}

Thundercracker later participated in Megatron's attack on San Francisco, where he followed Starscream's orders to maintain formation and drop cluster bombs on the Autobot giant [[Superion (G1)|Superion]], forcing the [[Aerialbot]]s to split into their separate component robots. {{Storylink|Prime Directive, Part 4}}

Thundercracker stood watch over the defeated Autobots while Megatron tried to persuade [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] to help the Decepticons conquer Earth. After some human firefighters distracted the Decepticons long enough for Optimus Prime to free the Autobots, Thundercracker was presumably beaten up and escaped when Superion sacrificed himself to stop a nuclear missile launched by rogue US General [[Robert Hallo]]. {{Storylink|Prime Directive, Part 6}}

After [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] had defeated Megatron and brought the Decepticons back to [[Cybertron]], Thundercracker and Skywarp spent their time relaxing and bathing, though Thundercracker was skeptical of Shockwave's new order, and compared its promised benefits to the benefits originally promised by Megatron.

Starscream eventually brought several Decepticons back to Earth and lead them in a battle against the Autobots who had stayed behind there. Thundercracker was among those captured by the Autobots, but was eventually freed in exchange for Starscream's assistance in fighting against [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]].

===Devil's Due G''.I. Joe vs Transformers'' continuity===

===IDW comics continuity===
Thundercracker operated as part of a Decepticon insurgent cell that had operated covertly on Earth for at least four years, working to destabilize Earth's governing organizations and create global anarchy. He, [[Runabout]] and [[Runamuck_(G1)|Runamuck]] were assigned by [[Starscream_(G1)|Starscream]] to intercept the human [[Stoker]] and retrieve his [[SM-40]] palmtop PC, containing data on their [[Nebraska]] operation. The team caught up with and killed Stoker outside Phoenix, AZ, but the SM-40 was missing. Thundercracker tracked the device to [[Hunter O'Nion]] and [[Verity Carlo]], but was driven off by [[Ratchet_(G1)|Ratchet]], who managed to temporarily lose him and the two [[Battlecharger|Battlechargers]]. After picking Ratchet up again, Thundercracker was later shot down by [[Prowl_(G1)|Prowl]], [[Sunstreaker]] and [[Ironhide_(G1)|Ironhide]].

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:Redeco.jpg|left|thumb|Thundercracker is the cheap and lazy redeco on the right.]]

* '''Thundercracker''' (Decepticon Jet, 1984/1985/1986/2001/2003)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''24'''

: Originally a ''[[Diaclone]]'' "Jet Robo Acrobat-Type", Thundercracker transforms into an F-15 Eagle fighter jet, sharing his mold with his teammates [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] and [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]. Many parts need to be removed completely from transformation from robot to jet and back, which nowadays is considered a major drawback of the toy. It is rare to find it complete, as neither mode can hold all the pieces required. There are a few minor mold variations of this toy (common for the first two years of ''Transformers'', really), the most immediately noticeable being that early versions did not have visible "clip-tabs" on the inner face of the gauntlets.

: In 1986, he was made available as a mail-away item (as he was no longer shipping to retail shelves) in the [[Digital Doom on the Highway to Destruction]] flier packed with most boxed ''Transformers'' toys. He cost $10 and two [[robot points]].

: In 2001, Thundercracker was given a short-run re-issue by [[Takara]] as a convention-[[exclusive]] item. The toy would later be more extensively released as part of the [[Hasbro]] [[Commemorative Series]] line, though due to US [[For safety reasons|toy-safety regulations]], his missiles were made extra-long.

: This mold is also used by [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]], [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]] and [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]].

* '''Thundercracker (Action Master)''' (Action Master Exo-Suit, 1991)

[[Image:Thundercrackeram.jpg|right|thumb|100px|Taste the rainbow.]]

: Released only in European markets, once again Thundercracker was a [[redeco]] of Starscream, a non-transforming action figure that combined elements of both the character's cartoon model and toy-form. Like all [[Action Master]]s, Thundercracker was a nontransformable action figure with a transformable accessory -- in his case, a [[Solo Mission Jet Plane]] vehicle that converted into exo-suit battle armor. However, unlike most of Thundercracker's appearances, Action Master Thundercracker is not in his traditional blue and silver colors, but rather in magenta, purple, blue, gold, and two shades of green. ''(Oy.)''

===Machine Wars===
* '''Thundercracker''' (Basic, 1996)
[[Image:MWThundercracker_toy.jpg|left|thumb|150px|No, seriously, this guy is Thundercracker.]]

: Sharing a mold once again with [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], Thundercracker transforms into a green Dassault Rafale fighter jet with spring-loaded one-step transformation from jet to robot. The two halves of his rifle store in his lower legs. Like all ''Machine Wars'' toys, Thundercracker was an [[exclusive]] to Kay-Bee stores and related stores like Toy Liquidators.

: This mold is also used by ''[[Beast Wars II]]'' [[Dirge (BWII)|Dirge]] and ''[[Robot Masters]]'' [[Wing Stun]]''.

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===Smallest Transformers===
* '''Thundercracker''' (Smallest Transformers, 2004)

: Part of the third wave of ''[[Smallest Transforming Transformers|Smallest Transformer]]'' product (dubbed wave "2.5" and available only at CVS stores in Japan), Thundercracker is ''again'' a redeco of Starscream. Like all toys in the line, Thundercracker is a tiny, even more simplified version of the original toy, transforming into an F-15 fighter jet. These toys were sold in "blind-packed" boxes, so you could not know which one you had until you actually opened the box. To complicate matters further, Thundercracker was a [[chase figure]], one of two in his wave (the other was a cartoon-colored version of Optimus Prime's trailer).

: The same mold is used by ''Smallest Transformer'' Skywarp and Thrust.

===Robot Masters===
* '''Skywarp & Thundercracker''' (Multi-pack, 2005)
[[Image:RobotMastersThundercracker.jpg|left|thumb|180px|''Light'' blue? Totally [[neon]].]]

: ''[[Robot Masters]]'' Thundercracker is a redeco of [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] from the same series, a smaller yet more advanced version of the original toy, adding more articulation and reducing the amount of [[part-forming]] required. He was available only in a two-pack with [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], which also came with a Decepticon sigil pin and chromed missile pods. This set was the very last product released in the Robot Masters line, and wasn't even strictly sold in a box from that series; instead, it used an e-Hobby Generation 1 reissue box, with a small Robot Masters sticker in the corner tab noting its origin from the front.

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===Titanium Series===
* '''Thundercracker''' (6" Cybertron Heroes, 2006)
[[Image:TitaniumHeroesWWThundercracker.jpg|right|thumb|150px|I don't think I have enough little wings on my shoulders.]]

: ''Titanium'' Thundercracker is based upon his appearance in [[The War Within]]. He transforms into a cybertronic 'tetrajet', as reimagined by [[Don Figueroa]]. As with all 6-inch Titanium Cybetron Heroes, he is constructed mostly of fully painted die-cast metal.

: This mold was redecoed into ''Titanium'' [[War Within]] Starscream and Sunstorm.

: Yes. Thundercracker was here first.

===Timelines===
*'''Games of Deception!''' (Multi-pack, 2007)
[[Image:Classics_Thundercracker_Toy.jpg|left|thumb|200px|You want me, but you can't have me!]]

: Thundercracker is part of the ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]''-themed [[BotCon 2007]] box set, along with [[Bugbite]], [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], [[Dreadwind (G1)|Dreadwind]], and [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]]. Thundercracker is a [[redeco]] of the ''Classics'' Starscream toy using the modified version first seen with Skywarp.

: Classics Thundercracker is a faithful reproduction of his original toy, but with modern standards of toy engineering, transformation, sculpting detail and articulation. He transforms into an F-15 Eagle, but has the nose of an F-14 Tomcat fighter jet. His colour scheme is inspired by the original figure released in 1984, but with a shade of blue closer to that of the original [[Diaclone]] version.

: In robot mode, Thundercracker is essentially a very detailed version of his cartoon robot mode. He is armed with two (overly large) null-ray missile launchers, which are so large that they restrict his arm movement due to them bumping into his wings.

: There were only 1500 Classics Thundercracker figures produced.

==Merchandise==
===Robot Heroes===
* '''Thundercracker''' (2007)
[[Image:Robot_Hero_Thundercracker.jpg|right|thumb|125px|When you look this cute you can't be evil]]

Thundercracker is a redeco of the mold used for Starscream and Skywarp. He was available in a two-pack with [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]].

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==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1984/Decepticon/Thundercracker/thundercracker.htm Thundercracker at TFU.info]

*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Thundercracker Thundercracker's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

*[http://www.toybin.org/search.php?q=1984+Decepticon+Thundercracker ToyBin Thundercracker Toy Gallery]

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Arcee (Movie)

2007-09-24T23:37:04Z

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{{disambig3|Arcee}}

:''Arcee is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Movie (franchise)|Movie]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Arceemovie.jpg|right|thumb|250px|No girls allowed.]]

Though small compared to many of her peers and adversaries, '''Arcee''' compensates with speed and aggressive maneuvers, making her one of the most dangerous Autobots around. Moreover, Arcee is a born hunter. She honed her speed hunting [[turbofox|turbofoxes]] with other speedsters, challenging herself to get as close as possible before tagging them with her bow. She's a crack shot with said crossbow weapon, and [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] has trained her to use her speed to her advantage in battle, striking suddenly and swiftly and then vanishing away again as fast as she appeared.

Arcee believes without question that the Decepticons must be stopped at any cost.

==Fiction==
===IDW ''The Official Movie Prequel'' comics===
[[Image:IDWPrequel_movieArcee_cvr.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Ever feel like you were the only ''[[Energon (franchise)|Energon]]'' homage in a universe full of [[Generation 1|G1]] homages?]]

Arcee was one of a handful of Autobots under the command of [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] who desperately fought against [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]'s vast army at [[Tyger Pax]]. She was captured and interrogated by the Decepticons but survived the ordeal. She recounted to their Autobot rescuers Bumblebee's heroics in delaying Megatron, preventing Megatron from intercepting the wormhole-bound [[All Spark]].

===Target [[Robovision]] Bio===

Arcee was on [[Earth]] for a short time at the beginning of the conflict there, presumably arriving shortly after Bumblebee. When the situation on Earth began to ramp up into out-and-out combat, she was reassigned elsewhere, where her stealth skills would be of more use.

Now she fights in the [[Charii system]] against a Decepticon splinter cell working on a star-breaking weapon. If she has her way, the only things breaking will be their heads.

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==Toys==
===Transformers (2007)===
*'''Arcee''' (Scout, 2007)
[[Image:Arceemoviescout.jpg|right|thumb|Not [[Chromia]].]]

: Arcee is a [[redeco]] of ''[[Energon (franchise)|Energon]]'' [[Arcee (Energon)|Arcee]], replacing her pinks, most of her whites and blacks with blue, and her translucent red with smoky brown plastic. She transforms into a 'superbike'-type racing motorcycle. Unusually for a Transformer, she does not hold her weapon in her hands as most figures do. Instead, her Energon Bow mounts on a peg in her arms, with her hands being positioned to give the appearance of her using the bow. The bow itself is spring-loaded, firing a grey missile 'arrow'.

:Arcee (and the rest of the Scout wave) are [[exclusive]] to Target stores, where they are all part of a [[Robo-Vision]] promotion. Arcee comes with a [[Robo-Vision Decoder]] which allows you to see the Robo-Vision Code printed on her cardback. Starting June 2, 2007, Target's website allowed users to input those codes to access exclusive content.  Similar to the [[Cyber Planet Key]] from the Transformers:Cybertron toyline.

: This mold also was used to make ''Superlink'' Ariel Paradron Type, as well as [[BotCon 2005]] ''[[Descent into Evil]]'' set's [[Chromia]], [[Flamewar]], [[Flareup]], and the fellow Target-exclusive movieverse [[Elita-One (Movie)|Elita-One]].

*'''Arcee''' (Deluxe, 2007)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''MA-11'''

[[Image:Movie_Deluxe_Arcee_toy.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Pretty in...''purple''?]]

: Deluxe Arcee transforms into a purple 2006 Buell Firebolt XB12R motorcycle, genericised to get around licensing issues. Maintaining the high standard of vehicle mode realism of the movie line, Arcee is perhaps the most realistic motorcycle Transformer released yet. As an off-screen design (though she originally was going to be an on-screen character), Arcee has references tampographed on her vehiclemode, such as her motorcycle's model name "RC 1100", and her number plate (from the state of Massachusetts) marked TF7407, the original release date of the movie.

: In robot mode, Arcee is quite accurate to the final CG concept design, though with more solid limbs and and a more recognisably feminine appearance influenced by ''Energon'' Arcee's sculpt and general arrangement of parts. Reasonably articulated, Arcee features ball joints in her arms, hips and neck with swivels rounding out her ankles, knees and wrists. Arcee's [[Automorph]]ing feature is located in her crossbow weapon (formed out of the seat/storage area of the bike), activated when the projectile (the bike's tailpipe) is inserted which pushes out the recurved lath parts on the sides of the weapon. Amusingly, in robot mode Arcee is one of the tallest of the Deluxe class figures released in the movie line thus far, which no doubt makes [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] feel even worse.

: The rectangular peg which is supposed to be used to attach her weapon to her forearm, in robot mode, is sometimes a poor fit, and the weapon may pop off. As an alternative, the round peg by which the weapon is attached in ''vehicle'' mode can also be used in robot mode, with a little rearranging of parts.

: As with most larger Transformers toys that become motorcycles, Arcee has a kickstand on the left side of the bike, and can accomodate 3'3/4-inch [[G.I. Joe]] figures with varying degrees of sucess.

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==Trivia==
* Arcee was originally going to be a member of the live-action movie's Autobot cast, but was later replaced by [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]. According to screenwriter Roberto Orci, they would have needed to explain the point behind female robots, which there wasn't any time for in the movie.<ref>[http://movies.ign.com/articles/801/801098p3.html Roberto Orci explaining the reasons for Arcee's removal from the script in an interview with IGN.]</ref> It's commonly assumed that Arcee's big part in the movie would have been the scene in which [[William Lennox]] starts his solo assault on [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] using an abandoned motorcycle ( however, observant viwers would've noticed that the motocycle used by Lennox was mostly colored white with some additional red/pink paint, which more closely resembles the later {Elita-One (Movie)| Elita-One]] Target exclusive figure).
* [[Image:Movie scale chart.jpg|thumb|right]] As part of [[BotCon 2007]]'s Hasbro tour, fans viewed "Robot Scale Chart v03", dated 11.22.05, which showed Arcee's height as 9 feet. However, all of the designs on this chart were very early and later revised.
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==Footnotes==
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Starscream (Armada)

2007-09-19T01:54:40Z

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{{Template:Disambig3|Starscream}}

:''Starscream is a [[Decepticon]] in the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Starscreamut.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Starscream's back, and he's a [[Linkin Park]] song.]]

'''Starscream''' is disillusioned by his leader [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]]. It took a while for Starscream to come to grips with Megatron's faults, but there's no turning back. Megatron doesn't respect him, doesn't appreciate him, and would casually toss Starscream's life away if it got him something he wanted. If following Megatron is the school of hard knocks, then Starscream is the valedictorian -- but not without a few scars. Starscream may have once been compassionate, he may once have known what true friendship is, but all that has been replaced, scab for scab, with the lessons of Megatron's abuse.

Unwittingly, Megatron may have created a monster even he cannot ultimately control.

Starscream's nominal [[Mini-Con]] partner is [[Swindle (Armada)|Swindle]], thought he has been seen to work with [[Zapmaster]].

:''Japanese name:'' '''Nightscream''' (''Energon'')

==Fiction==
===Animated continuity===
====''Armada''====
:''Voice Actor:'' [[Michael Dobson]] (English), [[Jin Yamanoi]] (Japan)

[[Image:AStarscream_cartoon.jpg|right|thumb|He's grouchy because he's fangirl bait.]]

Accompanying Megatron's forces to [[Earth]], Starscream was deliberately made to be the last of the Decepticons to acquire a personal partner Mini-Con. Infuriated by this mistreatment, Starscream's resent for and hatred of Megatron made him a chink in the armor of the Decepticons that could be easily exploited by the manipulative [[Sideways]]. {{Storylink|Rebellion}}

Initially, Sideways coerced Starscream into a duel with Megatron, which he promptly lost. A short time later, [[Thrust (Armada)|Thrust]], acting under the instructions Sideways, further exploited Starscream by making him the patsy in his latest plan. Starscream was given the [[Star Saber (Armada)|Star Saber]] and allowed to run riot to draw the [[Autobot]]s out of their base, but was then abandoned on the battlefield so that the other Decepticons could invade the base and steal the [[Requiem Blaster]]. {{Storylink|Sacrifice}}

Surviving to return to the Decepticon base, Starscream went on a rampage with the sword and disowned the Decepticons, siding up with the wary Autobots, not out of any desire to do good, but simply out of sheer hatred for Megatron. After a clash with [[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]] and a trip to [[Mars]] with [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]], Starscream befriended the Autobots' [[human]] allies, particularly [[Alexis]], and then gave the Autobots access to the Decepticon base, resulting in a raid that freed all the captive Mini-Cons. Starscream's defection was not a smooth process, however; he constantly clashed with his new teammates over morals and battle strategies, but nonetheless proved a capable, and on at least some level, willing Autobot. {{Storylink|Regeneration}} {{Storylink|Rescue}} {{Storylink|Mars}}

Soon thereafter, Sideways and Thrust approached Starscream, planting seeds of doubt in his mind. This eventually caused him to steal the [[Skyboom (Armada)|Skyboom shield]] from the Autobots and return to the Decepticon fold, giving the Decepticons possession of all three Mini-Con weapons. {{Storylink|Crack}}

As Megatron readied his new super weapon to attack Earth, Starscream began to suffer a serious moral crisis. He had returned to the decepticons but he still viewed those he'd left behind on Earth as his friends, and was torn between following orders, and a desire not to harm them. At times he found compromises, for instance, as Optimus led an attack to stop Megatron using the three minicon weapons, Starscream, currently battling Jetfire, spotted one of the decepticons sneaking up on Prime. Starscream then atacked Jetfire, allowing himself to be thrown away, and collided with the decepticon who would have attacked Prime.

[[Image:ArmStarscream-Dies01.jpg|left|thumb|The rest is... silence. Until he was brought back as a lobotomized, characterless zombie.]]

Subsequently, Starscream was among the Transformers injured battling [[Nemesis Prime (Armada)|Nemesis Prime]], and who then received "[[Powerlinx]]" power boosts from their Mini-Cons. Starscream gained a new, blue coloration that he commented made him look like his contemporary, [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]], with disgust just ''dripping'' from his tone. Returning to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Starscream pursued Thrust into the depths of the planet when the turncoat tactician revealed his treachery by stealing the Requiem Blaster and Skyboom shield. Starscream took a fatal shot from the Requiem Blaster as he battled Thrust in the subterranean tunnels, but the Mini-Con [[High Wire]] used his powers to restructure the timeline, saving Starscream (and throwing the human kids back in time, and.. well it's confusing).

Thrust escaped and delivered the weapons to Sideways and his master, [[Unicron]], presently disguised as Cybertron's moon. Following Thrust through a warp gate and briefly reuniting with Alexis, Starscream entered the belly of the beast along with Hot Shot and [[Wheeljack (Armada)|Wheeljack]], but the unlikely trio were stymied by Unicron's [[Bug Drone|internal defenses]] and failed to stop Sideways from using the weapons to begin Unicron's reactivation.

Megatron - now Galvatron - was unwilling to acknowledge Unicron's threat, dismissing it as an Autobot trick, but Starscream knew the threat was real, and that only united under a true leader like [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] - whose strength of character and nobility had touched Starscream during his time with the Autobots - could the Transformers hope to stop him. To show Galvatron the error of his ways, he challenged him to a duel in which he allowed Galvatron to run him through with the Star Saber. Galavatron realized what happened and demanded to know what possessed Starscream to do such a thing.

Starscream told him that he tried to gain Galvatron's respect, but nothing was ever good enough, no matter how many battles he fought, his leader always found fault. Optimus Prime treated his men with respect, and was thus a leader of integrity, unlike Galvatron. But that didn't matter anymore, and after tearing the Star Saber out with his bare hands, Starscream turned his full firepower onto Unicron. The Chaos Bringer promptly obliterated him, to the shock of both Galvatron and Optimus Prime. When the dust settled, Galvatron stood reflecting upon Starscream's last words, and as a gesture, handed his enemy the Star Saber.

Unfortunately, Sideways ran off with it two seconds later. But it's the thought that counts. {{Storylink|Cramp}}

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====''Energon''====
:''Voice Actor:'' [[Michael Dobson]] (English), [[Nobuo Tobita]] (Japanese)

Ten years after Starscream's death, when Megatron seized control of Unicron's body by ousting its former occupant, the alien being [[Alpha Quintesson]], the evicted extra-terrestrial needed an assassin to eliminate Megatron so that he could return to his original task of recreating the worlds destroyed by Unicron. Using what little [[energon]] he had left, Alpha Q recreated another victim of Unicron - Starscream. However, Alpha Q ran out of energon before the process could be completed, leaving Starscream incomplete - his memory blank, and his body unstable, constantly shifting from a physical to an ethereal form, able to teleport by "ghosting" from location to location. {{Storylink|Megatron Raid}}

Alpha Q unleashed Starscream upon [[Ocean City]], where he battled Optimus Prime and then tracked Megatron back to Unicron's body. Even his awesome new abilities proved no match for the Decepticon leader, who used Unicron's power to brainwash Starscream, turning him into his right-hand man and most loyal subordinate. Rather ironically, Megatron now treated Starscream with far more respect than previously, even entrusting him with some of the most difficult missions.

Later, when Megatron became Galvatron again through immersion in a subterranean reservoir of [[super energon]] on Cybertron, Starscream was allowed to do the same as a reward for his loyalty; the influx of power stabilized his physical form, while allowing him to retain his teleporting powers. When Galvatron was subsequently possessed by Unicron, [[Primus]] used the super energon to create a sun, and Galvatron plunged himself into it in order to contain Unicron's spark within it. Starscream seemingly sacrificed himself as well, diving into the sun alongside his leader. {{Storylink|The Sun (Energon episode)|The Sun}}

====''Cybertron''====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Michael Dobson]] (English) [[Takaya Kuroda]] (Japanese)

[[Image:Thunder-OhHi.jpg|right|thumb|Betta have my money.]]

A decade after the [[Powerlinx Battles]] (as they were called), when [[Primus]]'s plan to contain Unicron's spark at the core of the energon sun failed, the sun collapsed, becoming a deadly [[Unicron Singularity|black hole]] that threatened Cybertron. Freed from his imprisonment in the sun by Megatron, Starscream's mind was his own again, and his body was refurbished into yet another new form.

Megatron began his campaign to acquire the legendary [[Cyber Planet Key]]s by stealing the map that showed their locations from the ancient Transformer, [[Vector Prime]] while Starscream created a diversion that kept the other Autobots busy. During the fight, Starscream sent [[Landmine (Energon)|Landmine]] tumbling into the black hole, but Vector Prime saved him at the last moment, opening a dimensional gate that teleported him to Earth. {{Storylink|Fallen (Cybertron episode)|Fallen}}

The Autobots and Decepticons followed, and when it was deduced that the Cyber Planet Keys' focusing device, the [[Omega Lock]], was hidden somewhere on the planet, Megatron charged Starscream with locating it while he focused on acquiring the Cyber Planet Key of [[Velocitron]], the Speed Planet.

Little did Megatron suspect, however, that Starscream had evolved a new ambition - now, he sought to oust Megatron and become the leader of the Decepticons, then the universe. Unlike [[Starscream (G1)|those with similar goals]], however, Starscream was smart enough to keep his intentions to himself, quietly working to achieve his goals through subtle means. While on a brief mission to attack [[Red Alert (Armada)|Red Alert]] on Velocitron, Starscream was able to secretly switch Megatron's map with a copy that would play an important role later, and in an attempt to acquire more troops loyal to him, recruited the disillusioned Autobot [[Mudflap]] into his service on Earth. He later crossed paths once again with the mysterious [[Sideways]], who saw in him the best chance to achieve his own goals.

With the Autobots having successfully acquired the Omega Lock and the Cyber Planet Keys from Velocitron and the [[Jungle Planet]], Starscream realized it was time to step up his agenda. His duplicate planet map led Megatron and the other Decepticons to a dead sector of space and sealed them within a metal sphere, freeing Starscream to search for the third Cyber Planet Key, from Earth itself. Encountering the Autobot monster-hunter, [[Crosswise (Cybertron)|Crosswise]] - one of the ancient Transformers whose ancestors had come to Earth with the Cyber Planet Key eons ago, who had recently been reactivated - Starscream discovered a vast underground holding cell in which Crosswise had imprisoned the ancient Decepticons of his time. {{Storylink|Trap}} {{Storylink|Invasion}}

Liberating them, Starscream took command of their forces and began a planet-wide search for the Cyber Planet Key, fighting back the Autobot and human military resistance. The Autobots had Crosswise's ally [[Evac (Cybertron)|Evac]] recover the key from its hiding place in preparation for a retreat to Velocitron, but Starscream fought his way through the entire Autobot army and confronted Optimus Prime himself, successfully purloining the lock and all three keys by endangering the Autobots' human allies and drawing Prime out of the fight. {{Storylink|Retreat}}

Retreating to a small volcanic island in the South Pacific, Starscream attempted to harness the power of the Cyber Planet Keys. Megatron, meanwhile, had been freed by [[Scourge (Cybertron)|Scourge]], and immediately sought retribution, only to wind up clashing with the Autobots first. The extra time this afforded, along with the distraction of having Starscream's new troops (including [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)|Thunderblast]] and [[Lugnutz]]) defending him from both sides, allowed Starscream to tap the power of the keys and harness a fragment of the spark of Primus, growing to a gigantic height and besting Megatron in combat. With an extra power boost courtesy of his combination with [[Wing Saber]], Optimus Prime was able to defeat Starscream, but Sideways teleported his body away to the ancient starship [[Atlantis]] to recuperate. {{Storylink|Starscream (Cybertron episode)|Starscream}}

When the Cyber Planet Keys were used by the Autobots to awaken Primus and transform Cybertron into his body, Starscream successfully attempted to drain more of his power and grew to planetary size. He was defeated in one-on-one combat with Primus himself, battered into submission by Cybertron's moons, and drained of his excess power. The discovery of the fourth Cyber Planet Key on [[Gigantion]], the Giant Planet, set Starscream racing to acquire the key first, but Landmine reached it ahead of him and was able to use its power to pay him back for past indignities by growing to his size and pummeling him.

With all four Cyber Planet Keys finally acquired, Starscream challenged Megatron - now Galvatron once more - to a final battle for possession of them. So incredible were the energies released during the clash that space and time itself was rended by the final explosion, and Starscream was hurtled into another dimension along with the interfering Sideways and [[Soundwave (Cybertron)|Soundwave]]. He would appear for one final time before a defeated Galvatron, his spirit reaching out across the dimensions to encourage him to fight on - leading Galvatron to his final demise at the hands of Optimus Prime on Cybertron's [[Moon (moon)|Moon]]. {{Storylink|Unfinished}}

As the Autobots made preparations to begin their new galaxy-spanning [[space bridge]] initiative, [[Wing Saber]] - having departed from the rest of the Autobots to continue with his "loner" lifestyle - radioed Optimus to report that he had found a lead on Starscream's trail and was pursuing it. Landmine and a reformed Mudflap departed to aid him, and would eventually encounter Starscream within the walls of firespace, where Galvatron last saw him. {{Storylink|Beginning}}

===Dreamwave comics continuity===
====''Armada''====
Starscream lacked the more complex nature of his animated counterpart, filling the position of "snarky second-in-command" as Starscreams tend to do. He also gave Megatron the finger. (Behind his back, of course. He's not THAT stupid!)

====''Energon''====
In the wake of the unification of Autobots and Decepticons following Unicron's defeat, Starscream tried to ingratiate himself with [[Tidal Wave]] and the rest of the remaining Decepticons. His wheedling didn't last long, though, as [[Scorponok (Energon)|Scorponok]] showed up and promptly blasted him into a trash compactor. Later, during the [[Terrorcon (Energon)|Terrorcon]] attack on Earth, Starscream reappeared in his new form as an energon ghost and incapacitated [[Demolishor]].

''('''Note''': Due to Dreamwave's subsequent bankruptcy, this ended up being his only appearance in his Energon form.)''

====Fun Publications ''Cybertron'' comic====
Starscream killed Mini-Con [[Over-Run (Armada)|Over-Run]] as the little guy was uploading himself into Cybertron's planetary mainframe.

''('''Note''': This is an allusion to a Dreamwave Comics continuity event, but apparently it also took place in the animated continuity, too? Well, okay. Don't think too hard on this one.)''

===Panini comics continuity===
Starscream answered letters!

===''Transformers'' Playstation 2 game===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Matt Hetherington]]

[[Image:Starscream-GameBurn.jpg|left|thumb|Sephiroth! Sephiroth! 'Cause all bad guys walk in flames and not get burned to hell]]

Starscream was stationed in Antarctica, overseeing [[Decepticlone]] operations in recovering the [[Mini-Con storage panel]]s found in the area, using a human research center they overran as his base of operations. When the Autobots ventured too close, Starscream attacked (blowing up the hangar he was holed up in first), but was shot out of the sky and left for dead.

Having survived his initial defeat, Starscream followed the Autobots to Alaska. There he collided his starship into a mountain in an attempt to crush them, but the Autobots escaped unscathed. This also gave them the chance to infiltrate the downed ship and free the captive Mini-Con [[Aftershock]] from the control room. Starscream used his null laser cannons at full power in an attempt to finish off his foes, but only succeeded in cutting the rock face below the ship, which collapsed and sent the precariously-blanaced ship plunging into the valley below. The impact of the crash buried the bow deep into the earth, forcing the Autobots to climb their way up and out to the surface.

[[Image:Starscream-Cmere.jpg|right|thumb|Does Wayne Brady have to choke a bitch?]]

When the Autobots pulled free from the buried ship and got back to ground-level, Starscream attacked again. But this battle too ultimately ended in defeat, leading Optimus Prime to interrogate him as to the whereabouts of Megatron. When Starscream refused and attempted to fire his functional null ray at point-blank range, Optimus knocked him unconscious with a well-aimed punch. He then ordered Red Alert to hack the treacherous Decepticon's warp transponder, which led them to Megatron's [[Pacific Island]] base.

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==Toys==
===Armada===
*'''Starscream with Swindle''' (Mega-Con, 2002/2003)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''MD-02'''
[[Image:Armada_SS_toy.jpg|right|thumb|Buy Emo Starscream today, kids!]]

: Starscream transforms into a Cybertronic jet fighter. In both modes, pressing down on his cockpit canopy activates electronic sound effects; in jet mode, it also deploys his [[Mini-Con]] partner [[Swindle (Armada)|Swindle]] if he is stored under the cockpit. Plugging a Mini-Con onto his rearmost [[Powerlinx]] plug releases two spring-activated over-shoulder spring-loaded missile launchers, as well as more electronic sound effects. His left wing detaches and unfolds to form a large sword for use in robot mode.

: The [[Takara]] verion of this toy is largely identical to the [[Hasbro]] version, but uses a brighter light gray plastic, gold paint instead of yellow, more detailed paint applications on the wings, and has a "separated" Decepticon sigil deco. The canopy section on the Japanese version is parallel to the rest of the jet mode, while the American points more downward. This is due to a retooling of the area that meets his chest, and was done [[for safety reasons]], making the nosecone "collapse" easier if pressed point-first into, say, your little brother.

: This mold was also used to make ''[[Universe]]'' [[Ramjet (Universe)|Ramjet]], ''Armada'' [[Skywarp (Armada)|Skywarp]] and ''[[Armada]]'' [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]].

*'''Starscream''' (Happy Meal premium, 2003)

: Part of the McDonald's ''Armada'' promotion, this version of Starscream transforms into a Cybertronic jet the somewhat resembles his larger toy. It features a pull-back motor gimmick that propels his jet-mode forward, then leaps up to instantly convert to robot mode, like the [[Generation 1]] [[Jumpstarter]]s. In jet mode, he can combine with the other three Happy Meal Decepticons to form a goofy-looking super vehicle.

*'''Starscream Supermode with Spark Grid''' (Mega-Con, 2003)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''MD-09'''

[[Image:Armada_Thundercracker_toy.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Boy, is his face red!]]

: The Takara version of the ''Armada'' Thundercracker toy represents a powered-up version of Starscream instead of a new character. This toy is almost identical to the Hasbro Thundercracker, but uses a darker more vivid blue plastic and a darker more vivid red. Also the canopy section on the Japanese version is parallel to the rest of jet mode, while the American points more downward. This is due to a retooling of the area that meets his chest and was done for safety reasons.

: He comes with a powered-up version of his Mini-Con, Grid.

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*'''Starscream with Swindle''' (Built to Rule, 2003)
[[Image:BTR_Armada_Starscream.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Starscream's attempts to take over [[Block Town|Blockotown]] were less than successful.]]

: ''[[Built to Rule]]'' Starscream is a building-brick set that can be assembled into a Cybertronic fighter jet or a robot, or to whatever else you feel like. He came with a building-brick version of Swindle. The set features two missile launchers that use a unique "twist-block" pressure-launch mechanism.

: This set was later released in different colors as Thundercracker and [[Zapmaster]].

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===Energon===
*'''Starscream''' (Deluxe, 2004)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''SD-01'''
[[Image:Energon_Starscream_toy.jpg|left|thumb|130px|Spooky.]]
[[Image:Superlink_Nightscream_Toy.jpg|right|thumb|130px|Now with G1 sweetening.]]

: ''Energon'' Starscream transforms into a jet fighter loosely based upon the F/A-22 Raptor, cast mostly in dark clear-green plastics to emphasize his "energon ghost" status. The toy also features numerous spots of sculpted battle damage and asymmetrical plastic-color layouts to further enhance the effect. He comes with two very large accessories, a sword and a non-firing blaster, which can combine to form a ''really'' larger sword and/or non-firing blaster. In jet mode he has two wing-mounted spring-loaded missile launchers, which can flip up over his robot-mode shoulders for "Hyper Mode".

: The Japanese version of this mold, called "Nightscream", uses gray instead of blue, a lighter shade of red paint, darker blue plastic and paint.

: He is '''not''' a [[retool]] of ''[[Generation 2]]'' [[Smokescreen (G2)|Smokescreen]], dammit.

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*'''Prowl with Longarm & Starscream with Zapmaster''' (Multi-pack, 2004)

: Part of a Sam's Club [[exclusive]] set, the original Starscream toy was [[redeco]]ed in primarily dark gray with burgundy and black accents. His Mini-Con partner was [[Zapmaster]] this time around rather than Swindle. The set also included ''Energon'' [[Prowl (Energon)|Prowl]] as an ''Armada'' [[Red Alert (Armada)|Red Alert]] redeco with [[Longarm (Armada)|Longarm]].

*'''Energon Starscream''' (Deluxe, 2004)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''SD-19'''

[[Image:Energon_Energon_Starscream_Toy.jpg|left|thumb|130px|Twice the G1 for half the price.]]
[[Image:Superlink_Nightscream_Reverse_Toy.jpg|right|thumb|130px|With two scoops of G1 in every toy.]]

: ''Energon'' Starscream was redecoed into a more [[Generation 1]]-inspired color scheme, primarily light gray with blue and red accents. The Takara "Nightscream Rebirth" release of the toy has some significant differences, the most notable being the use of clear-blue plastics in the place of some of the solid-gray in the Hasbro version. Gray plastic was used in place of black, and many paint details were different. It also came with a yellow version of ''Energon'' [[Insecticon (Energon)|Insecticon's]] [[Energon weapon #Energy Drill (Insecticon)|energon drill weapon]].

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*'''Starscream''' (Built to Rule, 2004)
[[Image:BTR_EnergonStarscream.jpg|right|thumb|Starscream's attempt to infiltrate the [[wikipedia:Lego Space|Space Police]] was only marginally more successful.]]

: The ''Energon'' version of ''Built To Rule'' Starscream was designed with a much more solid skeleton with larger, blockier limbs. He can be rebuilt from a Cybertronic jet fighter with pressure-launch missiles, to a robot, to basically whatever you feel like doing with the parts.

: Unfortunately, due to the slow performance of the ''Built to Rule'' line overall, the ''Energon'' versions only had a limited, test market release initially in and around Cincinnati, Ohio. The sets later filtered out into many "Tuesday Morning" chain stores at drastically dropped prices.

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===Cybertron===
*'''Starscream''' (Voyager, 2005)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''GD-03'''

: ''Galaxy Force'' Starscream transforms into a Cybertronic starfighter. In both modes, plugging a [[Cyber Planet Key]] into his back end flips out a spring-loaded blade from each arm. His spring-loaded missile launcher can be used as either a hand-held weapon, or mounted under his jet-mode nosecone. He comes with a Cybertron-Decepticon-style Cyber Planet Key.

: This mold in these colors was never released in the Habsbro ''[[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]'' line, most likely to not interfere with sales of the much larger Supreme Starscream toy (see below).

*'''Starscream''' (Supreme, 2005)
[[Image:CybScreamSupreme.jpg|left|thumb|Honeycomb big? Yeah Yeah Yeah! It's not small? No No No!]]

: Supreme Starscream is a colossally-upscaled version of the Voyager-class Starscream toy, with quite a few changes. The most notable is the change in his Cyber Planet Key gimmick: each arm has a separate Key jack in it rather than the Voyager's single joint-jack. While the right arm still deploys a blade, the left arm now reveals a "null laser cannon" spring-loaded missile launcher. The original back-mounted Key jack still exists in a fashion, though it does not activate any gimmicks and merely serves as a Key storage space (a rarity among ''Cybertron'' toys). A second storage-only jack is found on the underside of the same assembly. The two small guns on the sides of his cockpit can swivel up to firing position in robot mode, and he also has several electronic light and sound gimmicks, including one activated by moving his sword-arm.

: He comes with a Decepticon "Crown of Leadership" that fits over his noggin, and also is the only ''Cybertron'' toy to come with ''two'' Cyber Planet Keys, a Cybertron-Decepticon Key, and a gold-bordered Earth-style Key. Both Keys have the [[Cyber Key Codes|Key Code]] "'''s5a3'''" [[tampograph]]ed on their backs. (The placement of these accessories in the box varies in later releases.)

: In Japan, this toy was released as a Toys "R" Us exclusive, basically in US packaging.

*'''Starscream vs. Vector Prime''' (Multi-pack, 2005)

: The only Hasbro release of the Voyager Starscream mold, this primarily-burgundy redeco came in a two-pack with an unaltered [[Vector Prime]], and was exclusive to Toys "R" Us stores. It was also sold for slightly less than the cost of two Voyagers.

*'''Starscream''' (Legends of Cybertron, 2005)

[[Image:CybScream-LOC.jpg|thumb|Starsqueak.]]

: A colossally ''downscaled'' and simplified version of the ''Cybertron'' Starscream figure was released as part fo the first wave of the ''[[Legends of Cybertron]]'' series. He transforms into the same Cybertronic starfighter altmode, and has flip-out weapons (one sword, one non-firing blaster).

: In Japan, the toy was sold as part of the ''very'' short-lived "EZ Collection". It was given more extensive [[paint application]]s than the Hasbro version.

: This mold was used to make ''Legends of Cybertron'' [[Ramjet (LOC)|Ramjet]], [[Skywarp (Armada)|Skywarp]] and [[Sunstorm (LOC)|Sunstorm]].

*'''EZ Collection Clear Set''' (Multi-pack, 2005)

: A three-pack of ''Legends of Cybertron'' [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]], [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] and Starscream using clear plastics in some parts was released in Japan. It was a mail-away exclusive to ''TV Magazine''.

===Attacktix===
[[Image:AttacktixScream.jpg|left|thumb|100px|He keeps flying in circles for some reason.]]
*'''Starscream''' (Booster, 2006)
:''Attacktix ID number:'' '''TF08'''

:''Faction'': Decepticon
:''Class'': Captain
:''Special'': Rally - 14/26 (54%) success ratio
:''Point Cost'': 10
:''Base Speed'': 6
:''Attack Type'': Shooter (Large Missile)

: ''[[Attacktix]]'' Starscream is based on the Cybertron incarnation of this figure. His Special Power, ''Rally'', enables a player to return any one of their already-defeated [[Decepticon]] pieces to play. If Starscream's speed wheel reads 8 stop moving him there - you'll be able to move him 2 extra tix next turn and even if he gets shot down his special power is always white when he's on 8 speed.

:A Captain figure Starscream works very well with his own redeco, [[Skywarp (Armada)|Skywarp]], supporting his ''Infiltration'' power.

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*'''Starscream''' (Booster, 2007)
:''Attacktix ID number:''

:''Faction: Decepticon
:''Class'': Captain
:''Special'': Transform
:''Point Cost'': 30
:''Base Speed'': 4
:''Attack Type'': Shoot (Small Missile)/Flight

: This as yet unreleased Starscream is a missile launching piece based on his ''Energon'' Energon form's vehicle mode. His Transform power will probably allow you to bring any Starscream figure into play from your back-ups -- making Starscream an even more effective figure when working with Skywarp.
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===Merchandise===
* A soft-plastic PVC figurine of Starscream's animation model was released in "Act-9" of Takara's [[Super Collection Figure]] series. It came in both full-color and pewter-finish version, one each per case of twelve.

* A larger non-transforming PVC figure of Starscream was released in the Mega Super Colleciton figure series. Like other toys in the line, he came with a few extra pieces, like a separate wing-sword, and a mini-PVC of his [[Mini-Con]] partner [[Swindle (Armada)|Swindle]].

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==Trivia==
* According the the [[Transformers (Melbourne House)|''Armada'' video game's]] instruction booklet, Starscream (in his ''Armada''-era body) has the following statistics:
::Height: 19' 7" (15' 1" vehicle mode length)
::Weight: 22,050 lbs
::Thrust: 28,000 lbs
::Vehicle Top Speed: Mach 2.7

* ''Armada'' Starscream's body parts made frequent cameos in the CGI models of the generic Decepticon and Autobot soldiers during the ''Energon'' cartoon series, despite Starscream not actually ever appearing in his ''Armada'' body during the series.

* [[Aaron Archer]] has expressed disappointment in how the ''Energon'' Starscream toy turned out, largely its design cues not quite coming across as intended.

[[Image:Speaker.jpg|right|thumb|150px|Starscream's emptiness can only be filled by love or electronics.]]

* The ''Cybertron'' Starscream design is based on the [[Generation 1]] [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] body from the [[Dreamwave]] comic series "[[The War Within]]", designed by [[Don Figueroa]]. Possibly as a "second try" at the design cues intended for the ''Energon'' toy that, as noted above, didn't come out as the designers had hoped.

* Cybertron Voyager Starscream was designed with a [[soundbox]] in mind (even including the requisite speaker and battery brackets when you crack one open), but the final Hasbro and Takara versions have no electronics.

* The Supreme Starscream's crown is modeled directly after the crown Generation 1 Starscream wore in [[The Transformers: The Movie (1986)|the 1986 Movie]], though this Starscream actually wore it for more than thirty seconds before dying.

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==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/2002/Decepticon/Starscream/starscream.htm Starscream at TFU.info]

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User talk:Bold Clone

2007-09-16T03:34:32Z

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Please do not remove the image captions. Those are intentional. Please check our help pages and such for our standards. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 03:00, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Very well, I won't. However, there should be better captions. [[User:Bold Clone|BC]] 03:03, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

[[Transformers_Wiki:Policies]] --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 03:11, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

:Even [[Transformers Wiki:Policies]] aside... how does your statement "they need better captions" justify ''blanking'' all existing captions? These newly-blank captions are no ''more-informative'' than the old ones. They're just ''absent''.
:Understand- we would have reverted the article even if you ''had'' spent 10 minutes writing dryly-worded descriptive image captions... but you didn't. It's like you're saying to ''us'' "No! Bad! Cut cut cut! Now ''someone else'' fill in the holes I just created" and then saying to ''yourself'' "Yay, good for me! Look at how much I've just ''contributed''!" -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:01, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't. I wanted to get your attention so we could talk about this. I don't have the time to come to this site very often, so ''someone else should'' replace the the captions with less stupid but still funny ones. I could also care less about how much I contribute. [[User:Bold Clone|BC]] 15:36, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
:If in the future you intend to "get our attention" by ''removing content'', then it's a good thing that you don't care how much you contribute -- because it won't be much. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:44, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
:So we've been working on this wiki for a while now, we're happy with it; but wait, Bold Clone doesn't like how it's done! And he's not actually going to do anything useful to contribute, he's just going to illustrate how wrong-headed we are by randomly deleting content! Yeah, we'll get right on those changes, kid. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 15:46, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

:Really, and I mean this in the most friendly way I can, perhaps you are not a good fit for this community and your interests would be better served elsewhere. Less stress for both yourself and us. However I will state that "I don't like this so I'm removing it but it's someone else's job to replace it" is frowned upon in ''nearly all'' wikis. The whole point of a wiki is that since you can edit it yourself you might as well finish the job. If you continue in this fashion I can't really think of too many Wikis that will condone your novel approach, and it just means more work for everyone reverting you.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 15:48, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

:Let me see if I've got this: You don't have the time to come very often, yet you insist on making a mess of things as a way of getting attention so we can talk about something that we've already discussed to death even though you won't be here to discuss it and aren't planning on actually doing anything? Thank you for dropping by. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 22:13, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

:I SAY THEE BAN!--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 22:53, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

So...you want to ban me because of a quarrel about stupid and unneeded captions? BTW, this wiki is the only one I've been to with captions like these. [[User:Bold Clone|BC]] 01:14, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

:Nobody's banned you. However, many many people have said that you're just wasting your time and ours. Someone probably will ban you if you keep telling the admins how to run their site though.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 01:24, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

:I imagine it's also the only wiki you've been to with an article for [[Blackball]]s, too. Could it be that we... do things that other wikis don't? See, we're actually able to realise how perposterously anal we're being about a line of toy robots, and make the whole experience of entering dry facts and figures a little FUN. That aside - the caption arguemnt is an old one, it's '''part of the style guide''', so don't come storming in and get all uppity, and decide that you're going to change the popular way of thinking about here by willfully ignoring the rules without even trying to offer a substitute for what you're trying to change. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 01:31, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

My ''substitution'' for the dumb captions is funny but less dumb captions. [[User:Bold Clone|BC]] 01:39, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:No, so far your substitution has been blanking them. Don't misrepresent yourself. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:41, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Oops...sorry...I meant my ''proposed'' subtitution for the dumb captions is funny but less dumb captions. [[User:Bold Clone|BC]] 01:47, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:I propose you somehow contribute in a real way before earning the right to futz with our funny captions. Please read [[Transformers_Wiki:Caption]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:54, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

== Emirate Xaaron‎ Picture ==

Hi there, deleteing a picture in an article without explaination is kinda frowned upon here. Also, it wouldn't be considered a minor edit. Also again, this might not be the greatest idea ever, what with your track record in the last twenty-four hours. --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 03:34, 16 September 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Xaaron (G1)

2007-09-16T03:22:22Z

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{{disambig2|Emirate Xaaron|another holder of the title|Emirate Xeon}}
:''Emirate Xaaron is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation One]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Emiratexaaron.jpg|thumb|175px|You wily old buzzard!]]

'''Emirate Xaaron''' is the leader of the Autobot underground resistance movement and was the chairman of the [[Council of Autobot Elders]]. He is not a fighter, but his strength is found in his convictions. Xaaron, though physically unimposing, speaks and acts with incredible confidence that grows from his irreverent brand of wisdom. Due to this, he is extremely valuable to the Autobots as a source of inspiration.

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
[[Image:Xaaroncomealeader.jpg|left|150px|thumb|Tell me, Mr. Anderson... What good is a phone call if you're unable to speak?]]
:''(Note: Events from the UK-only comic stories are in italics.)''

''Millions of years ago, when the [[Autobot]]/[[Decepticon]] war was new, Xaaron belonged to Iacon's [[Acadamy of Science and Technology]], where he dismissed a proposal from his colleague [[Flame (UK comic)|Flame]] to reattempt [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s scheme to rebuild [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] into a mobile battlestation. Flame, who was increasingly mad, was then seemingly destroyed in an explosion near [[Kalis]].'' <ref>It is not entirely clear when, relative to other events, Flame disappeared. He must have been dispelled from the Iacon academy before Iacon was destroyed, but it also seems unlikely he worked at his plan for four million years.</ref>

''The war continued, and long after, the capital city of [[Iacon]] was under heavy assault, prompting the Council of Autobot Elders to contemplate surrender. Emirate Xaaron refused, suggesting to High Counsillor [[Traachon]] that bureaucratic mismanagement of the Autobot army was the real culprit. He nominated a single warrior to take direct control of the Autobot forces -- [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]!''

''After Optimus Prime, [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], and countless other combatants were lost to [[Earth]], the Decepticon warlord [[Trannis]] rose into power. Xaaron created an assault team, the [[Wreckers]], to assassinate Trannis, but when they succeeded, one warlord was merely replaced by [[Straxus|another]].''

[[Image:Xaaronimpactor.jpg|right|thumb|125px|[[Impactor]] and Xaaron versus unfortunate illustration composition.]]
''In 1986, Xaaron hatched a new plan for the Wreckers: [[Operation Volcano]]. Using himself as bait, he would lure the several of the best Decepticon warriors into a trap. The Wreckers, under the leadership of [[Impactor]] momentarily reconsidered when [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], who was built to aide them in this particular mission, left for Earth to investigate the disappearance of Optimus Prime. Xaaron quickly replaced them with the Autobot [[Triple Changer]]s, at first sending them to attack Impactor while pretending to be Decepticons. Though this trick aggravated Impactor, the Wreckers commander grudgingly admitted it proved the three were up to the job. The bait was set, but a turn of events forced the Decepticons to abandon it. However, one disobedient Decepticon fired on Xaaron anyway, and when Impactor jumped in front of the blast, the Wreckers commander was destroyed, dying in Xaaron's arms. [[Springer]] was chosen to replace him.''

''A short time later, Springer captured an alleged imposter posing as Optimus Prime. The imposter escaped, and Springer alerted Xaaron. Upon finding the imposter cradling a dying [[Outback]], Xaaron heard enough of his passionate words to realize that this was, indeed, the real Optimus Prime. After four million years, Xaaron welcomed his old friend home. Xaaron pleaded for him to stay, but Optimus insisted he was needed more back on [[Earth]].''

[[Image:Xaarondelbo.jpg|left|150px|thumb|Xaaron's first Marvel US appearance. Sadly, only the yellow passed through customs.]]
After [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]], [[Jazz]], and [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] were restored as [[Pretender]]s, their new might helped turn the tide of Xaaron's underground resistance. ''During their tour of duty, [[Seawatch]] was returned to Autobase, catatonic. Xaaron sent the Classic Pretenders to investigate, and they found the [[Demon]]s, relics of Cybertron's past. From Seawatch's manic ramblings, Xaaron was clued in to the lore of the Demons and their weakness. Arriving on the battlescene with a weapon, Xaaron overloaded them with pure [[Energon]], destroying the creatures.'' The Classic Pretenders needed to return to [[Earth]], but while Xaaron had opened a transdimensional portal to send them home, the Autobots were suddenly under attack by [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon's]] [[Mayhem Attack Squad]]. As a result, the Mayhem Attack Squad, the Classic Pretenders, and some Autobot [[Micromaster]]s were thrown into the center of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Xaaron was able to locate them and send them to their intended destination, but not before the combatants had awoken [[Primus]].

With [[Unicron]] now nearing Cybertron, Xaaron aided Optimus Prime in their search for the Autobot [[Creation Matrix]] by sending out teams into a sector of the galaxy where the Matrix (in Optimus Prime's old body) had likely been jettisoned. But Unicron had his own plans in mind, sending a [[Galvatron II|Galvatron from a possible future]] to Cybertron to prepare for his arrival. The timelost herald pursued Xaaron specifically, finally cornering him deep below the surface of the planet. Galvatron revealed that he felt betrayed by Unicron and wished to ask Xaaron how to defeat him. Xaaron gasped, recalling an old legend which stated that if the Transformers united as one, Unicron could be defeated. Galvatron brought Xaaron down into the center of Cybertron, where Primus' chamber lay, had the resistance leader attempt to pray Primus out of his renewed slumber. Xaaron succeeded, Primus awoke, and all of the Transformers on [[Earth]] were instantaneously transported to Cybertron.

[[Image:Xaaronpossessed.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Xaaron is full of the Holy Spirit.]]
Primus spoke through Xaaron's body, causing it to glow and float above the startled Transformers, and he told them the history of their race. After the Autobots and Decepticons joined forces long enough to ward off brainwashed [[Unicron cultist]]s, Primus' avatar nominated Optimus Prime to be their united leader. This union dissipated quickly into chaos and terror once the impossibly huge Unicron arrived.

Unicron's assault on the planet was halted momentarily when the possessed Xaaron confronted him, but both Xaaron's body and Primus' essence were seemingly destroyed once Unicron realized that this avatar could do him no harm and blasted Xaaron's form to tiny pieces.

==Trivia==
*If the 'Emirate' from Xaaron's name is the Anglicised version of a Cybertronian title, then it is a misnomer. ''[[wikipedia:Emirate|Emirate]]'' is not a title, but a word that describes a place. An [[wikipedia:Emir|Emir]] is the leader of an Emirate. At least, that's how it goes on [[Earth]].
*In Xaaron's first appearance, he addresses [[Traachon]] as "High Councillor" of the [[Council of Autobot Elders]]. Later, [[Flame (UK comic)|Flame]] claims Xaaron was the chairman of the "ludicrously pompous" Council of Autobot Elders. Either Xaaron was later promoted and he changed his job description, or everyone on the council has different, important-sounding titles. Or, uh, Flame is just crazy and confused. Because he is, you know. Very crazy, that is.
*Emirate Xaaron was one Marvel UK conceit that writer [[Simon Furman]] quickly brought over when he began writing for Marvel US. In the translation, however, Xaaron lost all his colors except for the yellow.
*Emirate Xaaron is one of two Transformers who have served as a yellow-glowing avatar for [[Primus]]. The other is [[Mini-Con]] [[Jolt (Cybertron)|Jolt]] from [[Cybertron (cartoon)|''Cybertron'']].
*In Emirate Xaaron's very first fictional appearance, his head design was clearly based on the G1 Megatron toy, minus the larger grey helmet.

==Footnotes==
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Optimus Prime (disambiguation)

2007-09-14T03:00:48Z

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The name '''Optimus Prime''' has been assigned to several different characters:

*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], the original version of the Autobot Commander from [[Generation 1]]. For toys of this character, see [[Optimus Prime (G1) toys]].

*[[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]], the Autobot commander fire truck from ''[[Robots in Disguise]]''.

*[[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]], Autobot Commander truck from the [[Unicron Trilogy]] series.

*[[Optimus Prime (Worlds Collide)|Optimus Prime]], an Autobot commander killed by Unicron and sent into another dimension during the [[Armada (Dreamwave comic)|Dreamwave ''Armada'' comic]]'s [[Worlds Collide, Part 1|Worlds Collide storyline]].

*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], commander of the Autobots from the [[Transformers (2007)|''Transformers'' live-action movie]] continuity.

*[[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]], a younger and less experienced leader of the Autobots from the [[Transformers Animated]] continuity.

Optimus Prime is not to be confused with:

*[[Optimus (disambiguation)|Other uses of the name "Optimus"]]

*[[Prime (disambiguation)|Other uses of the name "Prime"]]

Additionally, Optimus Prime is not to be confused with the real-life persons:
* [http://teletraan-1.com/myspacePage.php Mr. Optimus Prime ], a well-known Transfan and National Guardsman who legally changed his name to Optimus Prime. Hey, did you hear he went to Iraq? Pretty cool huh!

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Optimus Prime (G1)

2007-09-14T03:00:18Z

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{{Template:Disambig3|Optimus Prime}}

:''Optimus Prime is the leader of the [[Autobots]] in the [[Generation 1]] continuity family. Before he became Optimus Prime, he was named alternatively '''Orion Pax''' or '''Optronix''' in certain continuities.''

[[Image:Optimusg1.jpg|right|thumb|300px|I'm that guy everyone remembers. No, not the [[Soundwave (G1)|tape guy]], the ''other'' guy.]]

'''Optimus Prime''' is the awe-inspiring [[Supreme Commander|commander]] of the Autobot forces. Originally a mere civilian, he was chosen by the Matrix to [[Prime (rank)|lead]], the first in a number of heavy burdens he has been forced to bear. Another is his bringing of the Transformers' conflict to Earth. The complete opposite of his mortal enemy [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], every casualty, human or Cybertronian, weighs heavily on his [[spark]]. He does not show this side to his soldiers, and he never succumbs to despair. The Autobots need a decisive, charismatic leader, and that is what he gives them. It was that leadership which turned the tide of the [[Great War]].

On the battlefield, there are few who rival Optimus Prime's prowess. He is easily the strongest of any Autobot his [[Scale|size]], and what he lacks in raw firepower he easily compensates with guts. He would sacrifice his life to protect his fellow Autobots or those under their care, and has on a few occasions. His compassion for other sentient beings is his only real weakness, and one the Decepticons have taken advantage of time and again... though it's also the source of his strength!

Prime (usually) carries within him the [[Matrix of Leadership]].

{{quote|Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.|Optimus Prime's most common bio quote|[[Tech spec]]s}}

:''Japanese name:'' '''Convoy'''<br>
:''French-Canadian Name:'' '''Optimus Primus'''
:''Italian name:'' '''Commander'''
:''Hungarian name:'' '''Optimusz Fővezér
:''Czech Name:'' '''Optimus Primus'''
:''Brazilian Name - cartoon:'' '''Líder Optimus'''
:''Brazilian Name - comics:'' '''Supremus Absolutus'''

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
:''(Note: Events from the UK-only comic stories are in italics.)''
[[Image:Optimusprimeg1preearthmarvel2.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Optimus Prime's Cybertronic truck mode, along with a Cybertronic Grumman X-29 , a Cybertronic Earth motorcycle, and a Cybertronic Porsche 962.]]

''Before the [[Great War]] broke out on Cybertron, the robot who would be Optimus Prime (his name before becoming the Prime Autobot remains unknown) was a Transformer of note, displaying his skills in the Infraformers Sharp-shooting Competition.'' Subsequently, when the war began, Prime quickly made a name for himself as a combat leader. On a mission with the [[Triggerbot (G1)|Triggerbots]] to stop [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] from claiming the [[Underbase]], Prime was forced to jettison the massive databank into space to prevent anyone acquiring its power, but with this action, proved his wisdom and skill to the [[Autobot Council of Elders]]. ''The outbreak of the Great War saw Autobot territories falling under Decepticon dominion, one City-State at a time. The last City-State to be taken was the Autobot capital of [[Iacon]]. As Decepticons besieged Iacon, the Council of Elders prepared to surrender. Councillor [[Xaaron]] suggested that High Councillor [[Traachon]] step down and allow a military officer to assume Autobot leadership. Traachon then used his powers of veto and effectively elected himself out of office, allowing Optimus Prime to assume supreme command of the Autobots, becoming the first soldier to ever hold the mantle of Autobot leadership.''
[[Image:Optimusprimeg1marvelfirst.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Optimus Prime's first fictional appearance.]]

Four million years ago, Cybertron - shaken from its orbit and drifting through space - came under threat when it floated into the path of a massive asteroid swarm that could potentially devastate the planet. Prime led a group of his most powerful Autobot warriors on the Autobot starship, the Ark, on a mission to destroy the asteroids, and although successful, in the aftermath of this mission the Ark was attacked by Decepticons, hoping to overcome their weakened foes. Intent on keeping the secrets of the Ark's computer, [[Auntie]], from the Decepticons, Prime set the craft on a suicide course, crashing it into the prehistoric planet Earth.

In 1984 C.E., a volcanic eruption reactivated Auntie, which in turn brought the Transformers back on-line. Prime led the Autobots in their opening battles to prevent the Decepticons from plundering Earth's resources, but following their initial victory, the Autobots were all deactivated by [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. Prime was decapitated by Shockwave, and had the energy of the Creation Matrix leeched from his mind to give life to Shockwave's creations, the [[Constructicon]]s (although Shockwave was unaware that the Matrix was not merely a program in Prime's mind, but a physical object in his chest). Before Shockwave could give life to his next Decepticon, [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]], Prime transferred the Matrix energy into the mind of [[Buster Witwicky]], who used the energy to turn Jetfire on Shockwave, allowing Prime to reclaim his body and retake leadership of the Autobots, giving Jetfire true life as a reward.

[[Image:NOOOOO.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Real dignified, Prime.]]
''Optimus Prime began to consider whether he was too important to the Autobots, and if they could carry on should he fall. To alleve his doubts, he and a reluctant [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] plotted to fake Prime's death to teach the Autobots how to fend for themselves. While Prime was setting up an imposter version of himself to leave behind destroyed for the Autobots to find, Megatron sent the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]] to attack Prime. In an ironic twist, would the Autobots stumble across a genuine dead Prime?''

After a period of effective leadership, Prime engaged Megatron in a [[video game]] duel for possession of a super fuel. Prime was victorious, but Megatron implemented a cheat code, allowing him to re-enter the game. Prime was able to defeat him yet again, but in doing so, he also destroyed several of the game sprites, and refused to accept his victory, as he had performed an action that compromised his beliefs about the preservation of life, which he would never have done, had the duel been real. In accordance with the rules of the game, Prime's body exploded and he died. Autobot surgeon [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]'s subsequent efforts to restore him were unsuccessful, and his body was launched into space. The funeral barge eventually crashed on giant moon where it lay for untold time. At one stage, an alien ship crashed near the barge. The dying alien reached out toward the Matrix, with the Matrix choosing to revive the being as Death Bringer. Much later, the Matrix would revive a small predatory animal which would prove instrumental to the conclusion of the Matrix Quest.

Prime's personality had been copied onto a [[floppy disk]] by the technician running the game, [[Ethan Zachary]], who employed him in various video game scenarios he developed. Prime's damaged mind led him to belive that he himself was a video game character, and in an attempt to bring him back to life, [[Bumblebee (G1)|Goldbug]], [[Joyride]], [[Slapdash]], and [[Getaway]] took the disk to the planet [[Nebulos]], where a new body was constructed for Prime. They built a new body for Optimus Prime, and even upgraded it with the ability to combine with the trailer to form a larger robot. In an effort to keep Transformers off their planet, however, the Nebulans had poisoned their fuel, and the sensation of dying convinced Prime that he was truly alive, and not a game character. To save his life, the Nebulan scientist [[Hi-Q]] [[binary-bonding|bonded]] with him, creating '''[[Powermaster]] Optimus Prime'''.

Powermaster Prime and his Autobots later battled [[Deathbringer]]. ''Optimus Prime immediately sensed Matrix energies emanating from Death Bringer, and realised that the undead reaper was a creation of the Matrix. Although Death Bringer proved to be invulnerable, Optimus Prime was finally able to defeat it by convincing it to self-destruct in concordance with its primary function. The battle with Death Bringer alerted Optimus Prime to the fact that his old body was still out there somewhere in space, and more importantly, that the Matrix that it carried was also with it. With a war to win, the location of the Matrix was not a high priority.''

[[Image:Pmoptimusprimedeath.jpg|right|thumb|150px|"I'll have a Number 5, medium, no cheese." "''Rarf ur rarff rarf.''" "...What?"]]

With the subsequent threat of [[Unicron]] looming, priorites quickly changed and Prime began a quest to locate his old body and the physical Matrix object within it. When the Matrix was successfully reacquired, Prime sacrificed his life one more time to destroy Unicron by plunging the Matrix into his maw. However, the Powermaster process had been working to fully bond Prime and Hi-Q, and with Prime now destroyed, the process completed itself in Hi-Q's body, and the two minds and souls became one. Hi-Q's biomechanical body was stripped down and reconstructed by the [[Last Autobot]], creating a brand new Optimus Prime.

===="Another Time and Place" text story ([[retcon]]ned)====

====Generation 2====
[[image:Optimusprime-g2.jpg|right|thumb|150px|Apparently going G2 makes you blockier.]]

Prime was plagued by visions of the [[Swarm]] - a destructive by-product of Transformer reproduction - entering into an alliance with Megatron against it and the forces of the second-generation [[Cybertronian]]s led by [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]]. Prime's body was destroyed yet again when he confronted the Swarm, but upon releasing the energy of the Matrix into it, purifying it, Prime was reborn by the repentant creature. At the end of the battle, Prime’s dream of reuniting the two races of Transformers into a single force for good seemed to be a possibility when the [[Autobot]]s and [[Decepticon]]s fought side by side against a common foe.

===Animated continuity===

====Generation 1 cartoon====

:''Voice actors:'' [[Peter Cullen]] (US), [[Tesshō Genda]] (Japan), [[Francis Lax]] (France)<br>

[[Image:Orionpax.jpg|left|thumb| Dock worker Orion Pax and his girlfriend Ariel. What she does at the docks? Well......]]

Optimus Prime began his life as a robot named '''Orion Pax''', a simple dock worker during the Golden Age of Cybertron nine million years ago, with a girlfriend named [[Ariel]], and a best friend named [[Dion]]. At the time, a new breed of robot had recently appeared on the planet - ones with new robot-mode flight powers that made Orion idolize them. Unfortunately for Orion, when [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], the leader of these robots, approached him with inquiries about using one of the dock warehouses, Orion fell for the deception and he and Ariel were fatally wounded when Megatron and his forces then attacked in order to claim the energy stored there. Searching for someone to help them, the time-displaced [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] took Orion and Ariel to the ancient Autobot [[Alpha Trion]], who used them as the first subjects for the new reconstruction process he had developed - rebuilding the frail Autobot frames into battle-hardy configurations. With this reconstruction, Orion Pax became Optimus Prime, the first of the Autobot warriors, who took the mantle of leadership as the civil war against Megatron and Decepticons erupted, while Ariel was rebuilt into [[Elita One (G1)|Elita One]], the commander of the Autobot resistance on Cybertron. {{storylink|War Dawn}}

[[Image:Optimusmtmtep1.jpg|thumb|right|Turn INTO the skid.]]

As leader of the Autobots, Prime headed up the Autobots' mission to search out new worlds with new sources of energy to revitalise the depleted Cybertron. However, shortly after its launch, the [[Ark (G1)|Autobots' craft]] was attacked by the [[Nemesis|Decepticon space cruiser]] and boarded by Megatron and the Decepticons. In the ensuing struggle, the g-forces of a nearby planet pulled both crafts down, and the Autobots' ship crashed into a volcano, thrusting all the occupants of the ship into emergency stasis. Four million years later, in the Earth year 1984 C.E., a volcanic eruption jarred the ship's computer, [[Teletraan I]] back to life, and it reactivated the Decepticons, programming them with new Earth-based disguise modes. As a petty parting gesture, [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] fired upon the Autobot ship, creating a landslide that knocked Prime into the path of the computer's restoration beam, restoring him to life, and beginning the war anew on Earth. {{Storylink|More Than Meets The Eye, Part 1}}

[[Image:Optimal_dunk.JPG|left|thumb|151px|Prime proving Red Bots Can Jump.]]

Prime was perpetually at the forefront of the action throughout the early years of the war on Earth, usually confronting Megatron, and, in some rare instances, being forced to team up with him for the greater good (or the lesser evil). He has suffered his fair share of battlefield scrapes, almost meeting his end when his vital [[cosmotron]] component was critically damaged by the Decepticon jets and [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], and suffering a severe - though unfair - defeat when Megatron challenged him to one-on-one combat while imbued with the different powers of all the Decepticons.

Generally, Prime acting in a commanding role as part of larger battles and event, but played prominent and solo roles in a few, also. In 1985, Megatron created a perfect duplicate of him, leaving the Autobots unable to differentiate between the two until the clone disregarded the safety of their human companion, [[Spike Witwicky]], exposing the deception. {{storylink|A Prime Problem}} Later in the same year, Prime's fame and prowess led him to become the target of the demented big-game hunter, [[Lord Chumley]], who sought his head to go along with his other rare trophies. Entering the hunter's estate alone, Prime defeated all the traps and beasts lying in wait and brought Chumley to justice. {{storylink|Prime Target}} The same year also saw Elita One captured by the Decepticons on Cybertron and used to lure Prime there alone; although knowing it was a trap, he ventured in solo and was defeated by the Decepticons and nearly destroyed, until Elita's stasis-field powers froze time long enough for them to escape. Prime was forced to seek out Alpha Trion to save the wounded Elita's life, and in the process, rediscovered his forgotten connection to his creator. {{storylink|The Search for Alpha Trion}} His memorial was also built 20 years before his death.

====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformer'' manga (Japan-only)====

During an energy raid on [[Tokyo]], Optimus Prime and the Autobots met up with a young Japanese boy named [[Kenji]], whose inventive mind helped them to defeat [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]]. As a token of thanks, Optimus Prime granted Kenji a special communications helmet and made him an official Autobot ally.

While showing Kenji around the Autobots' new Tokyo base, Optimus Prime lamented that he wished his "kid brother" [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] would hurry up and arrive with his trailer upgrade. As he pondered the where-abouts of his sibling, the Decepticons attacked Yokohama. The Autobots hurried to the scene only to encounter an over-powered Megatron in his newest form: the [[Super Megatron Gun]]. The Autobots' defeat seemed assured until Magnus arrived with Prime's trailer upgrade, the [[Scramble Power Buster]]. The Scramble Power Buster trumped the might of the Super Megatron Gun, leaving Prime and Magnus to vanquish the Decepticon forces with their combined attack: the Double Cross Kick (basically, them jump-kicking the Decepticons in the spine at the same time).

====''Scramble City'' (Japan-only)====

After the location of the top-secret [[Autobot City]] [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] was discovered by [[Ratbat]], Megatron unleashed a horde of Decepticon [[combiner]]s to attack the mammoth Autobot before it could be activated. Optimus Prime lead a counter-offensive of Autobot combiners to the front lines. Things looked grim, as the Decepticon combiners thrashed the Autobots. As a last resort, [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] activated Metroplex, who arrived in time to fight off the Decepticons. However, Megatron unleashed his trump card, the Decepticon City: [[Trypticon]].

====''Robot Masters'' (Japan-only)====
:''Voice actor: ? (Japan)''

Selecting a time when the original Megatron was known to have gone missing, [[Megatron (BW)|Beast Megatron]] traveled back in time via the [[Blasty Zone]] to sieze Decepticon leadership and gather precious [[solitarium]]. Beast Megatron's forces were strong, though Optimus Prime managed to fend off the villains when several time-displaced Autobots and Maximals ([[Star Saber (G1)|Star Saber]], [[Victory Leo]], [[Lio Convoy]] and [[Optimus Primal]]) came to his aid.

Beast Megatron would not relent, and eventually discovered a massive deposit of solitarium beneath [[New York City]]. The Decepticons razed the city in search of the element until Prime and his forces arrived to save the day, this time aided by the enigmatic Autobot [[Reverse Convoy]]. Things were going smoothly until Reverse Convoy revealed himself to actually be the ''real'' Megatron in disguise. Now going by the name Rebirth Megatron, Prime's nemesis teamed with Beast Megatron to conquer their mutual foes. Prime managed to defeat the duo by combining his power with Lio Convoy's and Optimus Primal's.

====''Binaltech'' (Japan-only)====
While Optimus Prime was fighting the Decepticon on Cybertron, he charged [[Ultra Magnus]] to protect the earth and to lead the construction of the new Autobot city. When the crisis annouced by Ravage arrived, he went with Ultra Magnus on a last chance mission to stop Unicron, while sending [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] into the past to restore the timeline so that recent events instigated by Ravage would not happen.

====''Transformers The Movie''====

[[Image:Optimusg1passingthematrix.jpg|thumb|left|Oh, hey, I have this in me now, by the way.]]

Over the course of the next twenty years, the [[Decepticon]]s succeeded in seizing control of all of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], forcing the Autobots to operate from their new city on Earth, and from two bases on Cybertron's moons. In the Earth year 2005 C.E., Prime was stationed on [[Moonbase One]], and dispatched troops to Earth to acquire energy for an upcoming strike on Cybertron. The Decepticons, however, got wind of the plan and attacked the shuttle, killing its occupants. Their scheme was to use the shuttle to stage a surprise attack on Autobot City; an attack which almost suceeded if not for a distress call which summoned Prime and support troops to Earth.

Optimus Prime foresaw that his final battle with his arch-nemesis was looming, deciding that the Decepticons must be stopped, no matter the cost. Bravely, he plowed through the remaining Decepticon ranks, punishing them for every Autobot they felled overnight, before confronting Megatron. In the ensuing battle with Megatron, Optimus Prime sustained fatal injuries, but not before turning the tide of battle and forcing the Decepticon to flee. Despite the efforts of [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], Optimus Prime died. The [[Matrix of Leadership]], and with it leadership of the Autobots, fell into the hands of [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], and subsequently to [[Hot Rod|Rodimus Prime]]. {{Storylink|Transformers: The Movie}}

====''Kiss Players'' (Japan-only)====
''Note: [[Kiss Players]] is set in 2006 and 2007, in the first part of the 4-year gap between Transformers the Movie and Season 3 created by the latter being entitled ''Transformers 2010'' in Japan.
=====Radio play=====
[[Image:Illust.jpg|left|thumb|150px|See? Melissa's just bein' nice.]]

In the year 1985, as Optimus Prime prepared to face his enemy [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] atop the [[Sherman Dam]], [[Fortress Maximus|Brave Maximus]] Fortress materialized nearby with an unusual crew on board. Undetected by the Autobot leader, a pop singer sextet of humans and Transformers had arrived from more than 20 years in the future, brought there by the mysterious [[Sparkbot]]s. When the [[Kiss Player]] [[Marissa Faireborn]] kissed the unsuspecting Prime, a fragment of the [[Allspark]] emerged from his chest. With their prize secured, the time travelers returned to the far future of 2007.

Years later, Prime would save the life of a young Marissa, leading to the human girl's lifelong [[wikipedia:Elektra_complex|crush]] on the mechanoid. After the Autobot leader was killed in the battle of Autobot City, Marissa rescued Optimus Prime's carcass from the clutches of the [[Earth Defense Command]] and he was resurrected in Japan in the form of a Dodge Ram SR-10. In addition to his ion blaster, he carries a weapon that he originally named the High Frequency Blade: a sword that Prime created from Marissa's beloved surfboard. Marissa hated the name, however, and renamed it the "Surf Blade". Naturally, Prime agreed to this, because really, what're you gonna do? Women, am I right, fellas?

[[Image:Marissa_convoy_stack.jpg|right|thumb|150px|She prefers the Japanese version's [[For safety reasons|''longer stacks''.]]]] Now Prime and Marissa spend their days hiding from the E.D.C. and their nights hanging out at the beach. He longs for the day when he can see her bathing in the sun, rather than the moonlight, although he thinks all that ice cream she's eating is making her a little fat.

One night while Marissa was surfing, she had a squid latch onto her. Then a [[Legion]] that had infused itself with both an octopus and shipwreck attacked her. With tentacles. Prime fought it off and saved Marissa, but the E.D.C. [[Autrooper]]s were soon dispatched to the scene, and the two had to beat a hasty retreat.

Marissa enjoys washing Prime, especially his... um... stick shift and the rim of his gas tank. Which makes Prime shudder and moan.

Eww.

''('''Note''': This is all actually part of the official fiction. Really.)''
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=====Manga=====

Following his death in America, Optimus Prime's body was covertly flown to Japan by the E.D.C. Soon thereafter, as the organization transported the robotic corpse by truck, the convoy was ambushed by a group of young female resistance commandos. Believing that they had secured Prime's body, the commandos were taken by surprise and slaughtered by the [[Ne squad]] [[Kiss Player]] [[Ringo]] and her [[Autrooper]] partner, who burst out of the torso of the false Prime.

Marissa Faireborn, the remaining member of the squad, discovered that the true body was being transported within Prime's nearby cargo trailer. Slicing the trailer open, she was too late to prevent an E.D.C. Autrooper from partially fusing with Prime. Reflecting on her childhood memories of playing with the kindly Autobot leader, Marissa lovingly kissed his faceplate. In an explosion of energy that destroyed the trailer, the two fused and Prime was converted into his new, living body.

''('''Note''': The fake Prime corpse was represented in art by the Masterpiece Convoy toy with an E.D.C. logo attached over its Autobot symbol. The real Optimus Prime was illustrated as the original toy.)''

====''Season 3/2010''====

[[Image:Optimusg1zombie.jpg|right|thumb|WHERE IS SARAH CONNOR.]]
Prime's body was entombed in a massive deep-space mausoleum with the many other fallen Autobots, but his corpse was desecrated by the [[Quintessons]] in 2006(2010 if you go by Japan's fiction), when they reanimated it as part of an attempt to destroy the Autobots by using Prime to lure their space fleet into a trap. However, the Matrix was able to purify Prime of the Quintesson influence, and he got the other Autobots clear while he piloted his flagship into the Quintessons' detonator, triggering the explosion of a nearby sun.

Prime was believed to have been destroyed in the explosion, but in reality, before the flagship impacted with the detonator, his body was recovered from the craft by two human scientists, [[Jessica Morgan]] and [[Dr. Gregory Swafford]]. However, as their ship departed, it was coated in solar spores released by the explosion of the sun. Jessica's father, [[Dr. Mark Morgan]], loathed the Autobots, and his hatred only grew when an attempt by the Decepticons to steal a heat-resistant alloy he had developed resulted in Jessica being paralyzed. Swafford and Morgan reconstructed Optimus Prime's body in an attempt to use it as a delivery system for the spores, which induced hatred and madness, in order to destroy the Transformers.

However, when they could not reanimate him, they used his body as a lure instead, bringing the Autobots to their lab, where they were infected. As this "[[Hate Plague]]" proceeded to spread across the galaxy, [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] retrieved a Quintesson, who fully restored Optimus Prime to life. Coating himself in Morgan's heat-resistant alloy, Prime reclaimed the Matrix from Rodimus and unleashed its concentrated wisdom to destroy the Hate Plague.

''('''Note''': There is a considerable continuity error concerning zombie Optimus. At the end of "[[Dark Awakening]]", Optimus is in pretty rough shape (as the screen shot shows), missing an arm, part of his face, a sizable portion of his shoulder, covered with cosmetic damage, etc. He is also apparently fully conscious as he flies the ship into the Quintesson trap as it is being ripped apart by laser fire. However, when he is discovered in "[[The Return of Optimus Prime Part 1]]", he's both whole and shining new, and apparently comatose. There is no hint whatsoever of the battle that took place only minutes previous, no Quintesson laser-fire piercing Prime's pristine ship. Plus, the sun in question is about to go nova naturally rather than by Quintesson design, which is why Morgan and Swafford were there in the first place.)''

====''Rebirth'' (America-only)====

In 2007, Prime began to suffer visions following the release of the Matrix's energy, which foretold a great transformation for Cybertron. Events began with the Decepticons' theft of the key to the [[Plasma Energy Chamber]], which forced Prime to consult Alpha Trion within [[Vector Sigma]], learning that the mega-computer had orchestrated events in order to restore Cybertron's Golden Age. When the Plasma Energy Chamber was opened and threatened to drive Earth's Sun supernova, [[Spike Witwicky]] and the other organic [[Nebulan]]s who had become involved in the conflict as a result of these events were able to drain off the excess solar energy and revitalize Cybertron.

====''Headmasters'' (Japan-only)====

''(The Headmasters anime ignores the events of the 3-part "The Rebirth" story arc and picks up a year after "The Return of Optimus Prime", in 2011.)''

One year after Prime's resurrection, the Autobots had entered into an even closer relationship with Earth and began the colonization of other worlds, the first of which was the planet Athenia, where Optimus Prime was stationed. It soon became apparent, however, that when Prime had released the energy of the Matrix to cure the Hate Plague, the consequences were more far-reaching than he had anticipated - without the energy of the Matrix to act as a balancing factor, [[Vector Sigma]] had become destabilized, and the Decepticons suddenly returned to exploit this, assaulting Cybertron in order to seize control of the mega-computer. Prime took a squad of troops to aid in the battle on the planet, and when the arrival of the Autobot [[Headmaster]]s tipped the battle in their favor, Prime broke off from the main attack and headed down into the depths of the planet, planning on stabilizing Vector Sigma at any cost.

Guided through the dangers of the planet's catacombs by the spirit of Alpha Trion while the other Autobots searched for the Matrix on Earth, Prime eventually arrived at the computer, only to find his way barred by [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] and [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]]. Hot Rod then arrived with the Matrix, with which Alpha Trion merged, re-energizing it and transforming Hot Rod back into Rodimus Prime; for the first time, the two Primes fought side-by-side and defeated Galvatron.

Before Rodimus could implement the Matrix to stabilize Vector Sigma, however, Optimus Prime sacrificed himself to perform the task, merging with the computer and restoring its balance to save the planet.

====''Battlestars: Return of Convoy'' (Japan-only)====
[[Image:StarConvoyBoxArt1.jpg|right|thumb|"Some aliens are alright; Star Convoy, E.T. ...but usually they just turn out to be some kind of big lizard!"]]

In a sinister plot to destroy the Autobots, [[Dark Nova]] had Optimus Prime's [[spark|sparkless]] body revived as the evil [[False Convoy]]. False Convoy battled the Autobots but was defeated. Using the power of the [[Zodiac|the Zodiac]], Optimus Prime was brought back online and upgraded into '''Star Convoy'''. He was then reunited with [[Hot Rod (G1)#Battlestars: Return of Convoy (Japan-only)|Hot Rod]], who became his [[Micromaster]] partner.

With the likes of [[Sky Garry]], [[Grandus]] and [[Sixliner]], Star Convoy did battle with the Decepticons and Dark Nova's hoard of [[Great Galaman]] drone warriors. Getting nowhere fast, Dark Nova then resurrected [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] (last seen buried in ice) as [[Megatron (G1)#Battlestars: Return of Convoy (Japan-only)|Super Megatron]] to counter Star Convoy. This didn't work all that well, and after defeating Super Megatron, his foe was resurrected again by Dark Nova as [[Megatron (G1)#Battlestars: Return of Convoy (Japan-only)|Ultra Megatron]]. After disposing of him yet again, Dark Nova merged with Ultra Megatron into [[Dark Nova|Star Giant]].

Star Giant proved to be virtually indestructible from the outside until Star Convoy got the bright idea of giving the villain [[Furmanism|the worst case of indigestion he's ever had]]. Holding Star Giant's massive mouth open, he ordered Sky Garry and [[Grandus]] to move in. After all 3 were swallowed, they began taking Star Giant down from the inside while simultaneously fighting off his various defensive systems. As soon as the trio escaped from Star Giant's interior, the monster exploded, leaving only his head slightly intact. As it happens, Megatron was housed inside Star Giant's noggin and survived the attack.
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====Generation 2 manga (Japan-only)====
[[Image:BattleConvoy.jpg|thumb|left|125px|I hope the bastards fixed my weak stomach problem.]]

After the end of [[Battlestars]], Optimus Prime down-graded back to his original body. Megatron eventually recovered from the Star Giant incident and supposedly turned over a new leaf. Megatron joined with Prime to form the [[Cybertron Alliance]], and things were good for a little while, as Megatron's attempts at peace were genuinely sincere. The alliance ushered in what would be called the Second Generation of the Transformers. However, after human soldiers killed one of his dearest comrades, Megatron adopted a new body and started the war anew.

[[Image:G2PrimeJustice.jpg|thumb|right|SHALOM!]]
To counter Megatron, Optimus Prime upgraded his body into a new Missle Trailer mode. Rallying a new wave of Autobot warriors, Optimus dilligently repelled Megatron and the Decepticons. Megatron eventually wore Optimus down in battle, though, blowing him away with a barrage of devastating attacks. Megatron finally succeeded in delivering a fatal blow to Optimus, shooting him at point blank with his cannon. Prime would have been done for, except that the [[spark|sparks]] of the previous Autobot Supreme Commanders within the [[Matrix of Leadership]] activated the [[Reconfiguration Matrix]] to forge him a new body. Optimus Prime became '''Battle Convoy''' and easily trumped Megatron's power. After a lengthy and costly war, Battle Convoy managed to drive the Decepticon forces to retreat into deep space. Prime was last seen wounded, being aided off the battlefield by his fellow Autobots.
=====E-Hobby=====
Presumingly using his [[Reconfiguration Matrix]] to revert to his original body, Optimus Prime came into possession of two powerful Solar-powered missile launchers created by the Decepticons. The energy consumption of these missiles is so large that it was necessary for Prime to be given a Sunlight-absorbing [[Wikipedia:Black body|Black body]] coating in order for them to operate at full power. It was in this form that Prime rescued Laser Rod Ultra Magnus from [[Galvatron II]].

=====Generation 2: "The Earth is in Danger!"=====

''(Note: this manga special is '''not''' in continuity with the Japanese G2 story pages and minicomics.)''
[[Image: G2Hero.jpg|left|thumb|100px|Good. Good. Just keep looking that way. Yeah.]]
In the year 199X, the Decepticons had learned of a powerful new energy source known as [[forestonite]] which just happened to be located (surprise surprise) on [[Earth]]. Megatron sent his trio of [[Cyberjet]]s to Earth first to draw out the enemy Autobots. The Cyberjets made quick work of [[Electro]] but were soon halted by the appearance of Optimus Prime.

Megatron then entered the fray and fired his Black Hole Burn attack from his fusion cannon, narrowly missing Optimus Prime but vaporizing [[Hooligan]] in the process. Prime fought fiercely but Megatron began to take the upper-hand in battle.

However, Prime was encouraged to keep fighting by the cheers of a human boy named [[Junpei]]. Megatron, surprised at Prime's resiliance, attempted to finish his foe off with his Tornado Axe attack. Prime countered with his Double Wheel-Torque Mega-Ton, which trumped Megatron's attack and injured the Decepticon badly. Megatron teleported back to his ship and left Earth's atmosphere, vowing to return.

Optimus Prime adressed Junpei, asking if the boy was injured. Junpei revealed he was alright but presented concern about the Decepticons returning to Earth. Optimus Prime swore that the Autobots would remain on Earth until the threat of the Decepticons was finished and asked for Junpei's help in making that future a reality.

===Beast Era===

====''Beast Wars''====
[[Image:G1Prime_BWMegs.jpg|right|thumb|You have to get up preeeeetty early in the timestream to beat Optimus Prime!]]
The Beast Wars raged on prehistoric Earth, eventually leading to the discovery of the buried Ark. [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]], following his namesakes instructions in a desperate gambit, decided to attempt to change history by killing Prime, who was still lying in the Ark in [[stasis lock]]. Megatron hoped that this would result in the Decepticons winning the Great War and eventually [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] control of Cybertron. Megatron unleashed a full-power weapon blast at Optimus Prime's face, near-fatally injuring him. {{storylink|The Agenda, Part 3}} However, [[Optimus Primal (BW)|Optimus Primal]] proceeded to take Prime's spark into his body to protect it from surgical trauma while his injuries were repaired. The subsequent power increase caused by Prime's spark's connection to the Matrix mutated Primal into a large, [[Transmetal]] "Optimal Optimus" form. Then, with the repairs complete, Prime's spark was restored, and he briefly activated before sinking back into normal stasis. {{storylink|Optimal Situation}}

Sometime after the Autobots and Decepticons awoke in the 1980s, the original Megatron gained access to one of Earth's ''Voyager'' spacecraft and inscribed a message on the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|disk]] on board. In the event that he lost the War, Megatron left instructions for the descendants of the Decepticons to use [[transwarp]] technology to travel to Prehistoric Earth, locate the ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'', and change history by killing Optimus Prime. {{storylink|The Agenda, Part 2}}

====''Beast Machines''====

An enormous statue of Optimus Prime, bearing two [[Golden Disk]]s, could be seen on Cybertron in front of the Hall of Archives. The statue was subsequently blown to pieces by the [[Vehicon]] forces. {{storylink|Fires of the Past}} Later, Megatron beamed a hologram of Optimus Prime down to the ruins of [[Iacon]] to confront [[Optimus Primal]]. Primal mistook the hologram for the real thing and shared with it the code for the [[Oracle]]. Megatron quickly revealed his ruse. Primal explained to his Maximals that he knew the image was fake, but he needed the location of the missing [[spark]]s from Megatron's mind.{{storylink|Sparkwar Part 2: The Search}}

:''Writer [[Bob Skir]] claims that neither the statue nor the golden disks in its hands were mentioned the script. However, he suggested that they were either the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|disks]] from the Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 probes, or that Optimus won them in the 2,395,989th Annual Cybertronian spelling bee.<ref>[http://bigbot.com/beast-machines-transformers-bob-skir/Beast-Machines-FAQ/Tue_12_Oct_1999.html Q&A from Bigbot's "bobskir.com"]</ref> We're betting on the latter.''

====''Universe: Primeval Dawn''====
[[Image:Sparkholderprimevaldawn.jpg|right|190px|thumb|Oh, I also have ''this'' in me now, too.]]
The Vok took the Matrix of Leadership from an unconscious Optimus Prime, used it to create [[Primal Prime]], then gave the Matrix to their new creation.

''('''Note''': In the Beast Wars cartoon, Prime's spark was shown to be contained in a Matrix-like vessel. In [[Universe (comic)|Primeval Dawn]], that vessel was shown to be merely a container for his spark, and the actual Matrix was hidden underneath.)''

===Kid Stuff Talking Story Books===
'''Voice actor: Unknown'''

[[Image:KidsPrime1.jpg|left|150px|thumb|And the fluffy kitten played with that yarn, all gosh darn night.]]

Optimus Prime is a "metallic nemesis." Megatron said so.

===Big Looker Story Books===

In "[[The Great Car Rally]]", a 2-part race was being held with a massive supply of oil and gasoline as the prize. The Decepticons wanted it badly, but so did the Autobots. Megatron entered the race by hiding himself inside a hollowed-out car, but ended up losing to [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]]. Optimus Prime celebrated the Minibot's victory with a gargantuan smile as all the Decepticons starved to death.

===Dreamwave comics continuity===

Optimus Prime started life as '''Optronix''' (Orion to his friends<ref>The [[Keepers Trilogy]] novels set in Dreamwave continuity</ref>), a data archivist. After taking note of a battle in which the Autobot leader [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]] had been defeated by Megatron, he was summoned to the council of elders and informed that the Matrix had chosen him to be the next leader of the Autobots. He received the Matrix of Leadership shortly thereafter, gaining a powerful new body in the process, and almost arranged for the Autobot evacuation of Cybertron, intending to leave the Decepticons to their own devices, until a battle with Megatron beneath the planet's surface, accompanied by visions from the Matrix, stirred him on to fight for the safety of his homeworld. Some time into his role as leader, Prime disappeared in a [[space bridge]] explosion along with Megatron, but returned some time later, having spent a period of time on [[Quintessa]].

[[Image:Optronix_optimus.jpg|thumb|right|What? OPTRONIX is evolving!]]

Following the awakening of the Transformers on Earth, the Autobots allied with humankind and eventually defeated the Decepticons at the turn of the century. They planned to return to Cybertron aboard the newly constructed "[[Ark_II|Ark II]]," but the ship was destroyed as part of a military conspiracy to take control of the Transformers. However, a terrorist organization run by the enigmatic [[Lazarus]] was able to seize control of several of the Transformers that fell back to Earth, while the U.S. military located Prime's body. Before his departure, Prime had entrusted a small portion of the Matrix to [[Spike Witwicky]], who was forced by the product chief, General [[Robert Hallo]], to use it to reactivate Prime. Functional again, Prime used the Matrix to reactivate more of his fallen comrades, and then faced off against Megatron in [[San Francisco]].

Following this, Prime began to experience subconscious urgings, leading both the Autobots and the Decepticons to the Arctic Circle, where Shockwave arrived to greet them - and arrest them as war criminals. Shockwave had succeeded in ending the war on Cybertron, but Prime soon fell in with a rebel Autobot group that had discovered Shockwave had a greater agenda. Rallying Autobots across Cybertron to the cause, Prime faced Shockwave in battle but was defeated and had the Matrix ripped from him and used to activate Vector Sigma. Before Shockwave could make full use of the mega-computer's data, however, [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] arrived and bested him. The injuries Prime took in this conflicted necessitated a prolonged restoration period in stasis.

=== IDW comics continuity ===
[[Image:IDWBeforeEarth_Prime.jpg|left|thumb|150px|I'll... ''I'll what, I'll what?!'']]

''(Before the war, a robot that's a hybrid of the "Orion Pax" and "Optronix" designs appears listening to [[Sentinel Prime]]'s speach at the funeral of [[Bumper]] and [[Fastback]]. He is standing with [[Elita One]], [[Alpha Trion]], and a white version of himself (presumably [[Ultra Magnus]], possibly even [[Dion]]). Whether this is truely the IDW-verse's version of pre-Prime Optimus remains unrevealed.)''

In Optimus Prime commands the Autobot armed forces spread across the galaxy from the [[Autobot Orbital Command Hub]]. He was directly involved in the cataclysm ([[IDW timeline|just under 450 years ago]]) that reduced Cybertron to a dead husk, fighting alongside Megatron in a futile attempt to stop [[Thunderwing_(G1)|Thunderwing]]'s rampage. Their efforts were futile, and they only survived due to Cybertron swallowing Thunderwing at [[Thunderhead Pass]]. Megatron, unconvinced that Thunderwing was dead, advocated that Cybertron be destroyed. Prime refused, and threatened to stop any effort that Megatron attempted. Megatron agreed to spare the planet, but warned Prime that anything which happened afterwards was on his head.

[[Image:IDWOptimus.jpg|right|thumb|150px|Freedom is the right of all sentient and heavily armed beings.]]

In the present, after the Autobot science vessel ''[[Calabi-Yau]]'' sends a distress signal from above [[Thunderhead Pass]], he ordered the [[Wreckers]] to withdraw from [[Varas_Centralus|Varas Centralus]] and meet him on Cybertron. {{Storylink|Stormbringer, Part 2}} Thunderwing had been restored by [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] and his followers, and though the Wreckers made short work of them, the real fight would be met with Thunderwing. After the Wreckers, Predacons and Centurion drones were unable to destroy the monster, Prime took to the field, firing massive amounts of energy at Thunderwing, forcing it to exhaust its last reserves of [[Ultra Energon]] and, ultimately, its life. {{storylink|Stormbringer, Part 4}}

Information uncovered in Bludgeon's files about the mysterious new form of Energon prompted Prime to divert his spacecraft to Earth and call [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] in to assist him.{{storylink|Spotlight Nightbeat}}. Shortly after arrival - having undergone alteration so that he can disguise himself as an Earth truck {{Storylink|Infiltration, Part 6}} - he slowly began to realize how unusual the situation Prowl's unit had found itself in was. Not only had the Decepticons broken their own infiltration protocols over what Starscream had dubbed Ore-13, but after attempting to recover what appeared to be Sunstreaker's remains{{Storylink|Escalation, Issue 2}}, it was also evident that some of the planet's native sentients - humans - posed a threat possibly equal to that of their old enemies.

[[Image:IDWPrime_Earth.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Don't crush the cameraman!]]
Optimus Prime, now fully filled in on Earth's happenings, decided that they needed reinforcements. He called [[Nightbeat]], [[Hot Rod]], and [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]] to come when they could. When Prowl pointed out that Megatron, in his new gun-based Earth mode, was in the breakaway Soviet state of Brasnya stirring up trouble, Prime ordered them into action.

[[Blitzwing]] almost got the drop on Prime, but Roller was right behind him, and executed him with one single shot. Megatron returned to his full-size robot mode and disagreed with the quality of Prime's tea and crumpets. At last, the two rivals were going to go at it.

The fight, at first, went well, with Prime blowing Megatron's fusion blaster clean off. Megatron, however, tireless thanks to Ore-13, prevailed, almost beating Prime into stasis lock.{{storylink|Escalation, Issue 5}}

However Prime transfered his consciousness into his trailer, leading Megatron to believe him dead. Realising that "Ore-13" was the same as Ultra Energon, Prime returned to his body in time to save his forces from the relentless Megatron, dealing enough damage to the Decepticon leader to drain his power reserves, just as he did against Thunderwing. The victory was narrow however, leaving Optimus with the daunting task of fending off an increasing enemy force without his last ace in the hole. {{storylink|Escalation, Issue 6}}

This near-death experience had left Prime somewhat unsettled. While his conciousness was in infraspace downloading to his trailer, he sensed a presence of dread - the visage of his long-missing predecessor [[Nova Prime]]. Looking for answers, Optimus Prime left Earth temporarily to seek an audience with [[Omega Supreme]] for answers. Once there, he found out about Nova's beliefs of how Transformers were better than everyone else and should show it, and faced down the rampaging Monstructor, a legacy of Nova's tenure locked away by Omega Supreme. Then he went on to give his "you shouldn't have done that" speech to Omega, hand Monstructor's limbs over to Jetfire's team, and went on to do what comic G1 Primes do best and have angst-ridden introspection about himself and the tarnished legacy of the Prime lineage. {{storylink|Spotlight Optimus Prime}}

===IDW ''[[Hearts of Steel]]'' continuity===
He appears very briefly in the first few pages, in his "Ice Age Wars" body (we only see him in robot mode, but his altmode is a brachiosaurus<ref>[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?s=d5d311674e796c81d010d26ac751389b&showtopic=10074&st=20&p=266183&#entry266183 Allspark forums post] by [[Guido Guidi]], August 15th, 2006</ref>). He spends most of the story in [[stasis lock]].
====IDW ''Hearts of Steel'' Concept Art micro-continuity====
Optimus is depicted as turning into the front half of a fanciful red-and-blue locomotive. The rear half of the locomotive turns into a battle station. Since this altmode has no place in the story, these sketches constitute a [[micro-continuity]] in which Optimus Prime and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] are active in the late 19th century.

==Toys==
See [[Optimus Prime (G1) toys]].

==Trivia==
*According to [[Bob Budiansky]], longtime comics writer [[Denny O'Neil]] named Optimus Prime prior to Budiansky being brought on to the ''Transformers'' project.

[[image:Optimusprime-mom.jpg|125px|right|thumb|Prime's mom knows how to write in cursive.]]

*Aside from occasionally having Alpha Trion as a father figure, Optimus Prime may have a mother! In an advertisement for [[Pepsi Convoy]] that shows him in a refrigerator (along with [[Destron Pizza]]), a note attached to a nearby piece of tupperware reads:

:''Dear Convoy''
:''Warm it before you eat''
:''Mom''

:Although the ad itself is for Pepsi Convoy, he is a separate character, and it can be assumed that the note was left for Convoy/Optimus Prime himself.

* The first wave of Dreamwave posters in 2001 identified Optimus Prime as [http://www.comicden.com/merch/posters.htm Captimus Primus], which is tantalizingly close to making some sort of sense.

==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/OptimusPrime/optimusprime.htm Optimus Prime on TFU.info]
* [http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Optimus_Prime Optimus Prime's Universe profile at NTFA.net]
* [http://www.toybin.org/search.php?q=1984+Autobot+Optimus+Prime ToyBin Optimus Prime Toy gallery]

== Footnotes ==
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Talk:The Transformers: The Movie

2007-09-10T03:49:00Z

70.190.251.10: Widescreen

Hmm, that's odd. The version of the DVD I have has the scrolling text, the "Optimus Prime will return" voiceover, AND the part where Spike lets an "oh shit" slip.

==Shockwave==
Did he die or what? I remember hearing that the original script EXPLICITLY says that he died when Unicron crushed the building he was in, but the actual finished movie is considerably more vague about this... [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 13:53, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
:According to the TFTM script:

ANGLE ON CYBERTRON

Unicron enters shot and grasps at Cybertron with a hideous claw...

ANGLE ON A TOWER ON CYBERTRON

Shockwave talks into a communications device, as alarms sound and troopers run everywhere.

SHOCKWAVE:
Decepticons...we're under attack...Scramble -

Then his voice is cut off as...

SHOCKWAVE'S POV - OUT HIS WINDOW

Unicron's hand reaches towards the window, squeezes, and the walls crash in.

SPACE - UNICRON AND CYBERTRON

Unicron tears off the tower and crushes it as...

A FLEET OF DECEPTICON SHIPS

streak out of Cybertron and begin firing on the enormous planet.

Here, we see the true scale of Unicron. The fighters are the size of bees as they attack.

-- While Shockwave's character model sometimes appeared in the third season (once in grey, once in Constructicon Green), I'm not sure that a properly-colored Shockwave ever showed up post-movie - not that that would necessarily mean anything in light of Evil Zombie Brawn And Huffer from Carnage In C Minor. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 18:47, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

*That's pretty much what I figured. Shockwave kindasorta dies, and doesn't show up properly ever again, so you could argue that he's dead. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:43, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

He doesn't even kindasorta die in the final cut of the movie. He just has that one shot then we never see him again. No tower-crushy, no nothing. So it can really be argued either way. [[User:M Sipher|M "I'd Hesitate To Make A Call Either WAy" Sipher]]

Could those season 3 episodes Five Faces of Darkness, Part 3 and Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4 animation errors be his clones?.

==German Dub==

Does anyone know who spoke all the roles in the german dubbing? i can't find that info anywhere on the net, and neither on the german dvd :(

==The?==
Shouldn't this article be called "The Transformers: The Movie"? That is the film's full title, isn't it? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 06:39, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

==Here's a question.==

Do we really need the (1986) at the end of this? It's not like "Transformers: The Movie" redirects to a disambiguation page with this and the '07 movie, or that the '07 movie is titled something different. It just seems...redundant, don't you think? There's only 'one' TFTM, and this is it. That, and I highly doubt there's gonna be another "Transformers: The Movie" within the next five or even ten years--when this Wiki would, realistically, still be operating. So yeah. Shouldn't we can that?
:[[Transformers: The Movie (comic)]] exists. As will [[The Transformers: The Animated Movie (comic)]] for the current adaptation when someone gets around to it. We do need to have a disambiguation system for them though. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:37, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
::I agree with the above, but am inclined to say this article still doesn't need a paranthetical in its title, it being far more prominant than the other Transformers: The Movies. Of course, the last time I moved an article that has disambiguation to the non-parenthetical location I got a bunch of people saying "WTF?" even though that's what [[Help:Disambiguation]] has said to do since I wrote it back at the dawn of time. (See [[Talk:Constructicon]].) --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 06:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
::Walky's point: Then I don't really see the relevance of the year. On top of that, all of those have different titles; there's no real conflict. It's kinda the same principle as [[Kremzeek]] and [[Kremzeek!]]. Just note that the reader may be looking for [[whatever]] at the top. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 09:46, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

== Worth Noting...somewhere ==

I found my old VHS version of the movie, and it refers to the Decepticons reformatted by Unicron as the "Unicrons." Just wanted to point that out. -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 18:00, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
:Though officially publishedd, the Aaustralian character bios are generally ignored because-- Bwuh?
:Hasbro/Dreamworks recently put out some bios of the movie characters-- describing half the cast in terms of their cartoon versions, including events that did not occur in the movie. At some point you have to say "no, there's no point in trying to integrate that."
:I think poorly-conceived DVD extras (or VHS extras as the case may be) since they really don't stand on their own but only reflect the producer's (often limited) understanding of the source material are one of those ignored-unless-useful things. (It's also why we don't cover the Dinobots seldom-seen combiner mode. *shudder*) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:24, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

::The Dinobots'... what? -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 20:07, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

:::I've heard of that combiner, my friend said it had no head. Anyways, I got that info off the synopsis from the back of the VHS Case. -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 20:52, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

::::Yeah, this has nothing to do with "Australian character bios" Deirk. The "Unicrons" thing comes from the back of the Rhino VHS case. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 21:59, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::I believe it was an Australian video release which tried to use its weight to assert that yes, Skywarp is definitely Cyclonus. Or maybe Bombshell. I don't remember which. But whichever way, it was totally inappropriate. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 02:50, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

::::::No, seriously... Dinobots'... what?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 03:11, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I don't recall which country, or whether it was TF:TM or the cartoon, but some non-US DVD release included a comic book in which the Dinobots combined. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 03:35, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Metrodome's Season 3 DVD's, wasn't it? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 05:02, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::::You got to be kidding. That's certainly worth a mention, er, somewhere. On the Dinobots page. Trivia tab. With a scan.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 06:32, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::But ti was the most vapid, stupidest, mis-concieved-idea-of-cool addition to the canon ever! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 10:03, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::Ugh, seriously. Kindly note that for all I did with Metrodome, I had ''nothing'' to do with that!! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:06, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::::Did the story ever end? I thought it was a deliberate cliffhanger- which really reinforces how the entire concept was "wouldn't it be cool if?" and there was no story to tell. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 10:15, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::::Yeah, it was a two-parter. Part 1 was in Season 2, Part 2, then part 2 was in Season 3/4. Basically, everyone runs like crap from "The Beast," and then Prime tricks it into falling off a cliff. Sigh. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:19, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

== Japanese name ==

What is it exactly? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 18:47, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
:Not "Matrix Forever". --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 19:04, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
::I am guessing some translation of "The Transformers: The Movie." --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:29, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Transliteration, actually. トランスフォーマーザ・ムービー, which comes out to "Toransufōmā za Mūbī". [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 19:36, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

== Widescreen ==

Derik: No, the screen is definitely cut off the top for the "widescreen." Look at the scene where you see through Perceptor's ''micro''-scope at the approaching Decepticons. The bars at the top of his vision display the difference perfectly. You can count the bars to see the difference between them. Oddly enough, your picture certainly looks stretched... --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 03:49, 10 September 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Autobot Spike

2007-09-08T04:21:52Z

70.190.251.10: /* Detailed synopsis */

{{episodenav|g1|17|prev=Heavy Metal War|next=Changing Gears}}
[[Image:BotX.JPG|thumb|right|250px|"AUTOBOT X, SMASH!"]]
A wounded Spike is turned into an Autobot Frankenstein's monster to save his life.

==Detailed synopsis==
Sparkplug constructs a new robot entirely out of spare parts, which is given the moniker [[Autobot X]]. However, during testing the robot is proven to be unstable, and Sparkplug cannot control it. Autobot X is shutdown and put into storage. Soon after, Spike is injured in a conflict with the Decepticons, and in order to save him his mind must be transferred to Autobot X, so that doctors may operate on his fragile body. Autobot X's unstable mind fuses with Spike's, who is in turn influenced by Megatron to betray the Autobots. Only the near death of Sparkplug prevents Spike from continuing his rampage, shaking him from his madness. Finally, following his surgical procedure, Spike's mind is returned to his own body.

==Stats==
'''Original airdate:''' ???

'''Written by:''' [[Donald F. Glut]]

===Featured Characters===
(''Numbers indicate order of appearance.)
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! style="background:#FFEEEE" | [[Autobots]]
! style="background:#EEEEFE" | [[Decepticons]]
! style="background:antiquewhite" | [[Human|Humans]]
! style="background:#FFEEB8" | Others
|-
| style="background:#FFEEEE" valign="top" |
*

| style="background:#EEEEFE" valign="top" |
*

| style="background:antiquewhite" valign="top" | '''Regulars'''
*

'''Guests'''
*

| style="background:#FFEEB8" valign="top" |

|}

==Notable quotes==

"He's not supposed to do that!" <br>
-- '''Wheeljack''' referring to Autobot X destroying Autobot Headquarters.

"So you Decepticreeps like to fly eh? Well, take off!" <br>
-- '''Brawn''' after kicking Soundwave.

"Since last we met, you've certainly improved your appearance!" <br>
-- '''Megatron''', upon meeting Spike in Autobot form.

"He wants a battle--let's give him one!" <br>
-- '''Starscream''', referring to the now-mechanized Spike.

==Other notes==

===Animation and/or technical glitches===
*

===Continuity errors===
*

===Transformers references===
* References

===Real-world references===
* References

===Miscellaneous trivia===
*

==External links==
* [http://cybertronchronicle.freewebspace.com/cartoon-dossier/synopses/autobot_spike.html Dossier at the Cybertron Chronicle]

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User talk:Rosicrucian

2007-09-08T02:04:00Z

70.190.251.10: /* Furman */

==Re: [[Galvatron (G1)]], [[Transformers (2007)]]==
LISTEN UP FOOL, we are having a little bit of conflict at the moment i dont want that, but my idea's are funny and brawl is devastator, but pleese lets not fight any futher {{unsigned|58.165.241.232|07:02, 5 August 2007}}
:Your the fool, i agree with you, the eye joke is funny, and i like to call brawl Devastator, but ahhhhh that dosent give you the right to create talk pages calling people "lunch box" and "snack pack" now pleese excuse me while i ask for you to be blocked for a year, that should tech you, "lunch box" --[[User:Galvason|Galvason]] 08:21, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, good luck with that. I doubt anyone is going to ban Rosicrucian at all, much less for a year, for reverting a blatantly racist joke that you repeatedly put into the article. - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 09:14, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Some confusion here. Galvason was talking to the anonymous editor who put in said racist joke, and was calling for the banning of that very anonymous editor. He was not calling for Rosicrucian to be banned.
:::People, please sign your talk page entries, and please keep discussion on pages where it is relevant. This particular conversation is veering off track from having anything to do with Rosicrucian at all. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 09:26, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

==Tigatron / Polar Claw==
An anonymous editor recently changed one of your additions to the Tigatron article: [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Tigatron&diff=next&oldid=84302]. I don't really remember the story anymore; your version sounds right to me, but I'm not sure enough of it to make the revert myself. Take a look? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 04:27, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:Easily done. I've elaborated on the production choices that led to this decision, and the lingering link back to the original character reflected in where Tigatron awakened.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 05:20, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

== Furman ==

Really? I didn't think it was that mean, and the guy does write freaking '''EVERYTHING''' what do you think I should do to change it? Like, what was too snarky about it? --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 00:58, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
:I would've said that it's a bit exaggerated, but considering the man wrote a freakin' "How to draw Transformers" book when he's not an artist, I'd say 70.190's edit were pretty much on the money. Maybe de-snarkicize them a little but not outright remove them. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 01:33, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
::Awesome, thank you. Though I really wish that bubble bath joke could have stayed. You're probably right though... (sigh) --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 01:59, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't know, I think I knee-jerked a bit. Feel free to add it back in, I won't touch it. See what others think.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 02:00, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
::::Nah, it's totally cool. It was kinda snarky, and I am an IP after all. Your version reads a lot more professional, and I think the world will survive without my "Simon Furman wrote the instructions on the back of the TF bubble bath" joke. Thanks again. --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 02:04, 8 September 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

User talk:Rosicrucian

2007-09-08T01:59:00Z

70.190.251.10: /* Furman */

==Re: [[Galvatron (G1)]], [[Transformers (2007)]]==
LISTEN UP FOOL, we are having a little bit of conflict at the moment i dont want that, but my idea's are funny and brawl is devastator, but pleese lets not fight any futher {{unsigned|58.165.241.232|07:02, 5 August 2007}}
:Your the fool, i agree with you, the eye joke is funny, and i like to call brawl Devastator, but ahhhhh that dosent give you the right to create talk pages calling people "lunch box" and "snack pack" now pleese excuse me while i ask for you to be blocked for a year, that should tech you, "lunch box" --[[User:Galvason|Galvason]] 08:21, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, good luck with that. I doubt anyone is going to ban Rosicrucian at all, much less for a year, for reverting a blatantly racist joke that you repeatedly put into the article. - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 09:14, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Some confusion here. Galvason was talking to the anonymous editor who put in said racist joke, and was calling for the banning of that very anonymous editor. He was not calling for Rosicrucian to be banned.
:::People, please sign your talk page entries, and please keep discussion on pages where it is relevant. This particular conversation is veering off track from having anything to do with Rosicrucian at all. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 09:26, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

==Tigatron / Polar Claw==
An anonymous editor recently changed one of your additions to the Tigatron article: [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Tigatron&diff=next&oldid=84302]. I don't really remember the story anymore; your version sounds right to me, but I'm not sure enough of it to make the revert myself. Take a look? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 04:27, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:Easily done. I've elaborated on the production choices that led to this decision, and the lingering link back to the original character reflected in where Tigatron awakened.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 05:20, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

== Furman ==

Really? I didn't think it was that mean, and the guy does write freaking '''EVERYTHING''' what do you think I should do to change it? Like, what was too snarky about it? --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 00:58, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
:I would've said that it's a bit exaggerated, but considering the man wrote a freakin' "How to draw Transformers" book when he's not an artist, I'd say 70.190's edit were pretty much on the money. Maybe de-snarkicize them a little but not outright remove them. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 01:33, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
::Awesome, thank you. Though I really wish that bubble bath joke could have stayed. You're probably right though... (sigh) --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 01:59, 8 September 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

User talk:Rosicrucian

2007-09-08T00:58:02Z

70.190.251.10: Furman

==Re: [[Galvatron (G1)]], [[Transformers (2007)]]==
LISTEN UP FOOL, we are having a little bit of conflict at the moment i dont want that, but my idea's are funny and brawl is devastator, but pleese lets not fight any futher {{unsigned|58.165.241.232|07:02, 5 August 2007}}
:Your the fool, i agree with you, the eye joke is funny, and i like to call brawl Devastator, but ahhhhh that dosent give you the right to create talk pages calling people "lunch box" and "snack pack" now pleese excuse me while i ask for you to be blocked for a year, that should tech you, "lunch box" --[[User:Galvason|Galvason]] 08:21, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, good luck with that. I doubt anyone is going to ban Rosicrucian at all, much less for a year, for reverting a blatantly racist joke that you repeatedly put into the article. - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 09:14, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Some confusion here. Galvason was talking to the anonymous editor who put in said racist joke, and was calling for the banning of that very anonymous editor. He was not calling for Rosicrucian to be banned.
:::People, please sign your talk page entries, and please keep discussion on pages where it is relevant. This particular conversation is veering off track from having anything to do with Rosicrucian at all. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 09:26, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

==Tigatron / Polar Claw==
An anonymous editor recently changed one of your additions to the Tigatron article: [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Tigatron&diff=next&oldid=84302]. I don't really remember the story anymore; your version sounds right to me, but I'm not sure enough of it to make the revert myself. Take a look? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 04:27, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:Easily done. I've elaborated on the production choices that led to this decision, and the lingering link back to the original character reflected in where Tigatron awakened.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 05:20, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

== Furman ==

Really? I didn't think it was that mean, and the guy does write freaking '''EVERYTHING''' what do you think I should do to change it? Like, what was too snarky about it? --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 00:58, 8 September 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Simon Furman

2007-09-08T00:50:00Z

70.190.251.10:

[[Image:Simon-Furman.jpg|thumb|right|If even [[Swoop (G1)|'''Swoop''']]'s toy is tiny next to Simon Furman, [[Furmanism|what chance, then, do '''we''' have?]]]]Probably the most well-known of all Transformers comics writers, '''Simon Furman''' was editor and author for much of the Marvel UK run, and began writing for the Marvel US comic after writer [[Bob Budiansky]] left.

Since then, Furman has also written Transformers comics for [[Dreamwave]], [[IDW]], and [[3H]], and scripted the final episode of the [[Beast Wars (cartoon)|''Beast Wars'' cartoon]], "[[Nemesis, Part 2]]".

He has also written and created many non-Transformers characters, including [[Death's Head]] with [[Geoff Senior]] and "Brute Force" with [[Jose Delbo]]. He is an editor at Titan Books, which publishes collections of Transformers comics, among other material.

Due to his popularity with [[fans]] and his prolific nature, when at all possible Simon Furman will write '''absolutely everything''' connected to Transformers. From coloring books, to definitive guides on aspects of the canon he had little or no involvement with, if it has "Transformers" on the cover, Furman is all over it. He probably wrote the instructions on the bottle of Transformers bubble bath.

Furman enjoys drinking [[Corona]] and killing off hordes of background characters.

==Fiction==
===Unicron Trilogy continuity===
The flesh creature known as Simon Furman pleases Unicron with his accurate depiction of his omnipotent magnificence.

''(In the final issue of Dreamwave's Transformers Armada, [[Unicron]] used his ability to gaze across parallel dimensions into a world where he was only a comic-book character, and answer letters from readers. He was unaware this issue ended with his defeat.)''

==Trivia==
* Simon recorded a DVD commentary track for "Nemesis, Part 2" as part of [[Madman Entertainment]]'s ''Beast Wars'' Season 3 DVD set.

[[Category:Writers|Furman, Simon]]
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Talk:Don Murphy

2007-09-07T09:00:55Z

70.190.251.10: /* Picture */

I corrected the bit about Moore; adaptations still happen, and he won't prevent them because comics are a collaborative medium and it's not his say, but he refuses to accept any money for them. I recommend that the last, made-up bit should be removed, both for the inaccuracy and because I think it belabors the joke; we'd have a better, funnier article without it. The disambig makes me smile. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 04:01, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

:He actually ''is'' disallowing adaptions of all the work he has full copyright control over. Much of his work is co-owned with Marvel or DC, or just the artist he was collaborating with under terms such that he can't block the sale of rights from being sold. So he's blocking what he can, and refusing to take money for (and disavowing) the rest.
:The article originally had a note to that effect, but I worried that the level of detail into Alan Moore's business dealings was excessive for an article on Don Murphy. (Really, I can only justify the long lawsuit footnote because the entirely COINCIDENTAL fact that it was ''Don'' on the DVD commentary cheerily affirming the damningly circumstantial production timeline.) I will try to either add it in, or if that doesn't work render the Moore statement into a more general 'left hollywood' that encompasses both states of affairs.
:The Majin Zarak disambig makes me smile too, but I wish I hadn't forgotten the word 'the.' You're probably right about the Ewok joke- it's a holdover from the first draft of the article when I though it was just going to be a 'what a jerk!' joke- before I started reading and realized that the man actually ''has'' left a trail of destruction, chaos and lawsuits in his wake on virtually ever project he's ever been attached to. (Sadly that that poitn it meant I had to be ''accurate'' and fact-checking and researching takes much longer.)
:I'm gonna run an errand- so I'll take a look at article revisions in about 40 minutes. If you want to get in any edits without stepping on my toes before then, now's the chance. ;) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:17, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

::Ah, good to know. I figure what I changed the Moore line to is as succinct and accurate as we can get (I mostly just want to fend off any questions about V For Vendetta and the like), but I'm not particularly attached to it.[[User:Chip|Chip]] 04:32, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Elaborately cited ''factual'' articles? Going back to templates used on the page and making style tweaks- then stopping to write documentation on them complete with citations, proper interwiki linking and notes on forward-computability and helpful hidden comments for future editors?

This is the ''last time'' I'm taking Adderall before starting an article. From now on I'm only editing the wiki while I'm off my meds! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:23, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

== Picture ==

So... is there a ''replacement'' image Don Murphy to go along with the removal of the article's main picture?

I realize this is part of a "TF in pop culture" purge, but that wasn't the main image for pop value-- it was the main image because there ''literally'' isn't any other picture of Don Murphy online, so a reasonably representative caricature was substituted, as is in line with Wikipedia's general source-value cascade for biographical pictures.

I object to its removal as a pop-culture purge, because it's not here as pop culture. If you wish to remove it- scrounds another picture. I'm sure Murphy's reared his ugly head at a 'con somewhere. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:38, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

:Just because we don't a legal or appropriate picture on hand means we should just use any picture, and you would do well to remember that in light of your uploads of bootleg DVD and youtube screencaps of the movie. If there's not appropriate or legal pic around, then we just leave the article image-less.

:Thank you for the link mysterious stanger! --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 08:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

:(Giggle) http://www.latinoreview.com/news.php?id=1502

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Talk:Don Murphy

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I corrected the bit about Moore; adaptations still happen, and he won't prevent them because comics are a collaborative medium and it's not his say, but he refuses to accept any money for them. I recommend that the last, made-up bit should be removed, both for the inaccuracy and because I think it belabors the joke; we'd have a better, funnier article without it. The disambig makes me smile. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 04:01, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

:He actually ''is'' disallowing adaptions of all the work he has full copyright control over. Much of his work is co-owned with Marvel or DC, or just the artist he was collaborating with under terms such that he can't block the sale of rights from being sold. So he's blocking what he can, and refusing to take money for (and disavowing) the rest.
:The article originally had a note to that effect, but I worried that the level of detail into Alan Moore's business dealings was excessive for an article on Don Murphy. (Really, I can only justify the long lawsuit footnote because the entirely COINCIDENTAL fact that it was ''Don'' on the DVD commentary cheerily affirming the damningly circumstantial production timeline.) I will try to either add it in, or if that doesn't work render the Moore statement into a more general 'left hollywood' that encompasses both states of affairs.
:The Majin Zarak disambig makes me smile too, but I wish I hadn't forgotten the word 'the.' You're probably right about the Ewok joke- it's a holdover from the first draft of the article when I though it was just going to be a 'what a jerk!' joke- before I started reading and realized that the man actually ''has'' left a trail of destruction, chaos and lawsuits in his wake on virtually ever project he's ever been attached to. (Sadly that that poitn it meant I had to be ''accurate'' and fact-checking and researching takes much longer.)
:I'm gonna run an errand- so I'll take a look at article revisions in about 40 minutes. If you want to get in any edits without stepping on my toes before then, now's the chance. ;) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:17, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

::Ah, good to know. I figure what I changed the Moore line to is as succinct and accurate as we can get (I mostly just want to fend off any questions about V For Vendetta and the like), but I'm not particularly attached to it.[[User:Chip|Chip]] 04:32, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Elaborately cited ''factual'' articles? Going back to templates used on the page and making style tweaks- then stopping to write documentation on them complete with citations, proper interwiki linking and notes on forward-computability and helpful hidden comments for future editors?

This is the ''last time'' I'm taking Adderall before starting an article. From now on I'm only editing the wiki while I'm off my meds! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:23, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

== Picture ==

So... is there a ''replacement'' image Don Murphy to go along with the removal of the article's main picture?

I realize this is part of a "TF in pop culture" purge, but that wasn't the main image for pop value-- it was the main image because there ''literally'' isn't any other picture of Don Murphy online, so a reasonably representative caricature was substituted, as is in line with Wikipedia's general source-value cascade for biographical pictures.

I object to its removal as a pop-culture purge, because it's not here as pop culture. If you wish to remove it- scrounds another picture. I'm sure Murphy's reared his ugly head at a 'con somewhere. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:38, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:Main Page

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==Archives==
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==Movie Nav Box==

The navigation box we have for Movie pages really needs an overhaul. Especially now that we have four [[Online games]] (not counting the Sector 7 Hungry Dragon thing) and the nav box points to [[Battle for the Allspark]] as THE online game. What should we do with it? --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 00:59, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

==Featured Article for July==

What should we start polishing up to be next month's Featured Article? It needs to be something relevant for people finding this site after seeing the movie? How about [[Bumblebee (G1)]], as it covers the history behind the film's most prominent robot? --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 21:53, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
: Sure, works for me. We've got our work cut out for us, though! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:56, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Is no one up to filling out Bumblebee's Dreamwave, Legends anthology, Dreamwave Transformers/GI Joe, Devil's Due, or Hearts of Steel sections? I'm poking around to see who would be relevant as a featured article for while the movie's out if we're not up to completing Bumblebee... -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 05:55, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
::We could always just go with G1 Prime or Megatron. Both of those more than qualify, I think. - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 07:28, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
::: Megatron's pretty close. I think we just need some filling out of his cartoon exploits. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:36, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

:::: He needs TF/G.I. Joe, G.I. Joe vs. TF, and Hearts of Steel filled out too. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 02:52, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
::::: Hearts of Steel writeup: "There was art of him in the supplemental materials!" --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:04, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::: ...Two designs for a guy who didn't even show... Dang it.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 08:05, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

== Movie Launch==

Hey Guys, Was wondering if you were going to put anything on the home page about the movie launching tonight? I was going to put this wiki in the spotlight starting Friday to promote it, but I think its needs a more recognizable logo so people will click on it. [[User:Angies|angies]]<staff /> ([[User talk:Angies|talk]]) 19:25, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

:I've put something on the front page now. I had wanted to get this done last week, but I never had the time, and then most of the staff were at the [[BotCon 2007|Transformers convention]] for four or five days. It needs work, but it's there, at least. It would be great if we could have a spotlight! --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 16:52, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

== The Funny ==

Maybe if the stuff you said was funny, no one would have a problem with it, but most of the jokes on here are pretty lame, it's not about transformers fans being serious, it's about your jokes being bad. When other people try to put there humor in it, you erase it. Sooooo make the jokes funny and you wont have to worry about it. Besides the Real Wikipedia has more information on transformers than the one dedicated to transformers have, what gives. Maybe before you work on your lame jokes you can fill out the information on the article. Sorry just what I think about it, don't take to much offence. {{unsigned|67.140.110.210}}

:Humor is subjective. Pesonally, I consider most of the jokes on this site to be neutral. They are clearly trying to be silly, but neither funny nor painful. They merely lighten the tone. Users who show up here and do nothing but change jokes into different jokes are clearly not accomplishing anything. The new jokes are never any better -- they are merely different, and often worse. That is a waste of everybody's time. I haven't spent a lot of time browsing Transformers material on Wikipedia, but I highly doubt that their information is ''better'', even if there might be a larger quantity of it. What little I've seen there has been disorganized, mixes fan assertions with canon, and is at times not even reliable. ''If'' they have more information than we do, it is only because people have been adding TF info there for at least twice as long as this specialized wiki has existed. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:57, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

::Yep, this wiki is a far more reliable source of information for Transformers than the Wikipedia shall ever be. I've corrected some of their base assumptions and half-truths upon occassion. If we lack information for something, '''then feel free to contribute''' to our wiki or wait for one of us to get around to it. Really, what the Wikipedia offers is rather generalised information and (as steve-o points out) fan-assumed fanon and downright false information. Besides, we provide the Transformers info that the users on the wikipedia either don't know or won't bother with, such as info on the toys, their designers, toy construction materials, obscure series and/or characters and so on.
:: And yes, we think captioning a picture of say, Megatron with 'Art of Megatron' or some such is really patronising. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:00, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

==Logos for 'By series' column==
I was uploading some logos for the franchise pages, and it got me thinking - the By series column on the main page is basically a bunch of text, and for either visual-minded people or those who aren't as familiar with TF, it can be confusing. How about we get brand/franchise logos for all the series so far and put them into the column? The logos would be easier to see and recognisable.

I made [http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/166/logosbyseriesec4.jpg this] - the logos there are at 250px, but I later reduced that to 150px and they still seem fine (unless you've a super-high resolution on a less than super-large monitor). Its quite rough there, series logos are missing (and I've not actually changed the page itself), but what do you guys think? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:01, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

:I like the idea. I think the execution needs xome more work of course but having the logos there definately makes the page nicer looking.--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 19:21, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
::The logos need to be much, much smaller. That looks not so visually appealing. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

::If the logos were reduced a little more, I think it would be alright to remove the text and go with just logos. (And giving them TITLE/ALT attributes, of course.) --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:26, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::
::They need to not have backgrounds, and it's going to be a real hassle to get rid of the Classics one. I think the idea could be doable, although the mockup does not look good at all. It could potentially be very ugly and I think we need to be careful. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 03:30, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:::So we're doing this for every series title? ''Awesome''! And it's gonna have no text? ''Awesome''! And what are we doing for Japanese series?
:::(I saw this done with all the Japanese titles on Cyberbon a few years back. Turns out that bereft of some visual cue to tell you what series you're talking about- every TF logo after Masterforce looks the same.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:46, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
::::I suspect that may not be a problem, given that we do not actually have any Japanese titles on the main page. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 03:54, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::Yeah I'll need your help, anyway since I am shithouse at photoshop now and I can't get rid of the backgrounds myself. Also we're still missing logos for Beast Machines, RID and king of hard to track down, G2. We have so few images on the first page that I think, if done right, this could look very nice. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 08:30, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

:::::Logos so far, and I guess they'll all need to be converted, except for the movie logo:

:::::[[Image:G1logo.jpg|left|100px]]
:::::[[Image:G2Logo.jpg|left|100px]]
:::::[[Image:BWlogo.jpg|left|90px]]
:::::[[Image:RIDlogo.png|left|100px]]
:::::[[Image:Armadalogo.jpg|left|100px]]
:::::[[Image:Energonlogo.jpg|left|100px]]
:::::[[Image:Universelogo.jpg|left|100px]]
:::::[[Image:Cybertron-Logo.jpg|left|100px]]
:::::[[Image:Classicslogo.jpg|left|100px]]
:::::[[Image:Transformers2007logomodified.png|left|150px]]
:::::[[Image:Transformersanimated franchise logo.png|left|100px]]
{{-}}
::::::You might have my help... if I thought it was a good idea. Remember you need to do Headmasters, Masterforce, Victory, Zone, Battlestars, Return of Convoy, JG2, BW2, BWN, Robotmasters, Binaltech, Kiss-Player, etc. And they somehow have to communicate what series they refer to despite lacking any English text.
::::::Also-also, I assuem that clicking on these logos is supposed to take you to their respective franchise pages? Clicking on an image takes you to the info page for that image. It's a wikipedia fundamental. You need to find a way around that. Have fun!-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:37, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::: Don't all those Japanese series fall under the umbrella of G1 or BW anyway? And, as it has been so repeatedly stated, this predominantly an American TF wiki, so I don't think we need to list EVERY TF cartoon ever made, for even with just text links it would be very, very long. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 08:56, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::::: If you're just linking to the continuity-families, you shouldn't have 3 images for the UT then. Clearly that threw me off. Of course, if this is by Continuity family, we don't need Classics either- it's part of G1.
:::::::: Franchise or continuity family, pick a standard. (and if i'm coming off as Difficult, it's because I think this is a bad idea- but like a lot of bad ideas I'm over-ruled on, if it's goign to be done I'd like to see it done '''well''', or at least consistently.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 09:01, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::There's no logo for UT, unless we make one up, which would be fanart. And those three series are far more well known and arguably more important to American Transformers than the entire Japanese TF continuity. But, if you can come up with the brand/franchise logos for Headmasters, Masterforce, Victory, Zone, Battlestars, BW The Second, BW Neo and on, then we'll do it your way. Not sure how big the 'By series' list will end up being, however. We may have to end up redesigning the main page. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:59, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::No love for the BM "clawed-winged gear" logo? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 14:07, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::::I couldn't find an appropriate image to use, and I didn't have time to edit one out of something. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:39, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::: Looking at that tall list of images leaves me highly skeptical. This list is going to be ''huge.'' It's going to completely dominate the main page and throw everything off entirely. Don't get me wrong, I'm not particularly fond of the way the main page is laid out right now, it was very much something thrown together in twenty minutes; but without an actual redesign (or even with one, it takes up a whole screen on my computer), I don't see that huge-ass list working out. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 14:23, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::::Yes, now that I see the images on top of each other, I also think this isn't a great idea anymore. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:01, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::::And that's ''without'' Machine Wars, Beast Machines, Dinobots and Timelines. And then throw in Animorphs, SWTF and Titanium (not to mention the new Universe and other future lines). That column would be taller than almost all monitors can display. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 16:25, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::::::''I get it.'' Which is why I only wanted to do it for the series we have at the moment. I wonder, why are you guys suggesting, all of a sudden, series that weren't even there before? If they weren't important enough for inclusion in the column in the first place, why bother to list every TF series ever made now, if only to use them as a means to derail my (evidently) poorly thought out idea? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:55, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, less appealing than I thought it might be. I DO definately believe the Main page could use some redesign and more pictures/visual interest. This just may not be the best way to add that.--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 15:22, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

:I made them smaller, but I see FFN has ''failed''! :O Is there any way to allow the images to link to the articles in question? It would free up clutter if we had the American logos and do away with the text saying what it is. As for placement, I think IF the By series column were to have logos, it would work better if we swapped its location with the 'Top level categories' column. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:39, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
::It could work... if we reformatted the main page so instead of the vertical list there was a box, with the logos filling up rows and columns. G1 at the top-left and then so on. Just a thought. If it eats up the whole screen, nevermind. --[[User:209.101.152.114|209.101.152.114]] 17:25, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I'll take a look at the image placement markup later. I don't THINK you can make clicking on them take you someplace else... but maybe it'll surprise me. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:37, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:I checked, it can't be done. Sorry. I think you can make the pic info page re-direct you... but there are several well-founded reasons why you wouldn't want to do that. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:01, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

The funny is awesome.Learn to laugh.

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== New Prime Image ==

I have replaced the crappy and blurred Prime image on the main page with a much better version. Hope there are no objections. [[User:OptimusPrime|OptimusPrime]] 18:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
:I strongly object. That image is huge and it completely breaks the layout of the front page. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 18:02, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps you are right. But I still suggest that the image be replaced or removed entirely. Many images exist on the site that are far better, and could be put to use in its place. Also, the presence of the image on the page causes the Welcome sign to be askew, and makes it look like a bit of a botch job. [[User:OptimusPrime|OptimusPrime]] 18:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
:What do you mean, askew? It's not *supposed* to be in the center of the page... is that all you mean? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 18:18, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
::How about a size-reduced pic of that close up of Prime's head from the international posters? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:21, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
I dislike the current main image, a blurry (imo) close-up of Movie Prime's face. I suggest [[:Image:Wotf g1 movie primal.jpg|this image]] from Takara's Tf site instead. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:07, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
:That's gonna look pretty awful when small, since that image is gonna go in that little feature-box on the right-hand side of the screen. Any way to get a pic from the bit just before that with those three in close-up without the "WORLD OF TRANSFORMERS" on it? That should shrink down way better while still being legible. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 01:16, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
:That's actually 3 seperate pieces of close-up art. I can scrape those and re-create it though. Do you want the starfield behind it, or a transparent background? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:25, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
::Hm. Yyyyyeah, starfield, I think. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 01:29, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Okie, Starfield is up at the previously-linked location. Transparent is [[:Image:G1 movie primal.png|here]], and I think it looks better. (Thought his gamma might be too agressive.) If we made it the main image it'd probably be nice to round and fade the edges a bit. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:53, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
It's seriously ''not'' a good picture. (The only reason I objected to the first guy's replacement was because it was like a whole screen tall.) I was really wondering when someone was going to replace it with something better. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 01:35, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
:How about that close up of Prime's movie CG head from the international movie posters? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:39, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

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== Popular Culture? ==

Maybe it's just me, but I think it might be a good idea to include a page that features the various references made to the Transformers franchise in different forms of media and popular culture, i.e. Optimus Prime's cameo in ''The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy''; Prime and Soundwave on ''Family Guy''; the "Rad Rad Robotank" that's appeared every once in a while in ''Homestar Runner'', etc. Anyone else think so?

:Hell yeah, seconded! One of my favorite bits of Wookieepedia is checking out all the different star wars references they catch and list. Seeing a list of real-world transformer references, cameos and sightings would be sweet. Hell, I think it would be fascinating just to see TF sightings. "Oh, so the toy that kid was playing with in this obscure movie was just a <insert TF here> that the prop department repainted. Neat."

:I am... a bit wary of such a thing. A centralized list of pop culture refs would be enormous and very hard to manage, and probably boring. I could see maybe having shorter lists in relevant individual articles -- like, on G1 Soundwave's page, a list of refs to him in particular -- but that would remove some of the usefulness of listing them in the first place, because there wouldn't be an easy way to find them all. How does Wookiepedia do it? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 19:06, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

:: I'm also wary for the same reasons I don't want us to handle unofficial stuff like fan-conventions and books... at what point does something become not noteworthy enough to mention? Are we going to list every last damn insignificant webcomic or unfunny comedian who says HEY REMEMBER TRANSFORMERS?! --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:21, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

:::We see this sort of thing pop up often enough in forums. And frankly, the Wookieepedia's listing of SW references in pop culture is (and I apologise to the people who compiled them) rather boring. And personally, I never want to see Family Guy referenced on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:59, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

::::I'm torn. I agree in principle with everything the naysayers have naysaid. And yet, I want somewhere I can document that <i>Spaceballs: The Lunchbox</i> was a TF lunchbox with the Spaceballs logo slapped on it, and there was an Insecticon among the pile of toys the kid in <i>Flight of the Navigator</i> gets. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 05:27, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

::::''I never want to see Family Guy referenced on this wiki''<br>
::::I just feel this bears repeating. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 08:49, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::Looks like you have some caption-editing to do then. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:47, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

::::::COULD IT BE? Somebody on the internet who '''doesn't''' like Family Guy? *shocked* I could swear I was the only one! --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:08, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

I told you guys, '''I NEVER WANT TO SEE FAMILY GUY REFERENCED ON THIS WIKI'''. I hate that show and the fact that if you're our age you 'have' to be a fan of it and its limited sense of humour. I think we should discourage people from adding more references beyond the ones we have right now, and just delete ones made by random, unregistered users. We don't reference every time Transformers have appeared on television that isn't a Transformers show so we don't have to reference every instance time they appear on Family Guy. *SHAKES FIST* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:59, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
:Okaaaaay...-- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 06:01, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
::Don't force me to resort to fisticuffs! --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:05, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I think, in the interest of fairness and with awareness of the "slippery-slope", that pop-culture references should generally be stricken outside of certain special circumstances where there's some kind of "official" link... like, say, the Megatron/Jetfire cameo in the old Marvel G.I. Joe comic. Thanks to the web and eighty billion cable channels, allowing any "unofficial" pop-culture would mean we'd be looking at a very Wikipedia-esque "notability" (read: "well, '''I'VE''' never heard of it!") kind of judgment call being taken every time someone puts up a vanity link because they made a Transformers joke in their little flash animation on Newgrounds.<br>
I'm not adverse to having an article ON the fact that TFs is now a popular callback for the nostalgia remoras out there, noting the timing of the "surges" of things transforming into robots as a reference/parody/imitation... but not some list of 'em all. It's the same stance we ''should'' have on any other unofficial work, yes? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 06:59, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
:Some of our articles reference or link Walky's Shortpacked and Don Murphy's article uses a panel from the old 'Don Murphy knees Ethan in the chest' comic as its main pic. Should those be edited in line with this policy? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:12, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
::I'd say yes. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 07:49, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Some anonymous, nameless editor at the top raises a good question; how ''does'' Wookieepedia deal with this? I mean, I'm guessing that they have to deal with a whole friggin' lot more than we do, so if they handle it well, they might have an already established set of standards we can modify.

I don't like the idea of having a giant, unmaintainable mess of pointless cruft and I don't think ''I'' would ever be interested in any modern pop culture appearances of Transformers; but that doesn't mean that there aren't ''other'' people who would be interested in a list like that.

(There was also someone else, elsewhere, who raised a good point: what about references to Transformers that ''aren't'' from the last few years? I mean, I don't give a damn about Soundwave on Family Guy and I don't think anyone else here does, either, but what about the more obscure references from Beast Wars and earlier? Those are interesting just because they can potentially illustrate Transformers in pop culture in earlier periods of time, to contrast with now; which certainly seems to ME like it has value.) --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 07:31, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

:I'd mentioned stuff along that line in #wiigii!... I do think, say, that Razorbeast was on ''Fresh Prince of Bel Aire'' (which I never cared for in all honesty, and I had Fresh Prince albums on steady play growing up) or that ''The Powerpuff Girls'' had an extended CGI tribute/parody of ''Beast Machines'' are WAYYYYY more significant than any TF reference made in the past five years because the HEY LOOK THING YOU REMEMBER wasn't a popular comedy substitute then. At that point, who gave a fuck about Transformers... or about the Eighties, for that matter? Aside from VH1? But it's the ol' slippery-slope again if it goes outside of a "centralized" article that mentions such occurrences within the context of time and doens't try to be a comprehensive list of references. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 07:49, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

::Wookipedia lists EVERYTHING oh my GOD the pages are huge. They divide it by medium. Every single refence, from American Dad to Webcomics. It's... it's a giant monument to how you don't want to spend your time.

==Image upload==
I assume this is a wiki software thing, but does anybody know why the upload button you can use when you edit something no longer allows you to fill out details on the file being uploaded? I've trained myself to keep an open 'Upload File' page, but its abit annoying. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:56, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
: I'm not sure what you mean. I still see the same ol' page! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:27, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
::When I click the upload popup button (not the Upload file link on the side of the page), in the popup the appears, there's only File: (Browse button) and the "All images uploaded are subject to Wikia's GNU Free Documentation License. Do not upload copyrighted images." warning among some minor things. No space for one to type out file details.
::It has been this way since Wikia updated its software a few weeks back, so to fill out details by editing the image's page afterwards. Before the software upgrade, the upload popup also allowed you to fill out file details, just like the Upload file page. This is part of the reason why lately there have been quite a number of images uploaded with no information whatsoever - most non-registered users or newcomers use the upload button instead of the Upload file link on the side of the page. I believe Zodberg has mentioned this when somebody here asked him to fill out image details. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:43, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

== Animated GIFs ==

If there isn't already, can we put a ban on these things? -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 00:42, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

:There are a couple that I sort of like, as on [[Spark]] and [[Oracle (G1)]]. Those ones are, IMO, considerably less obnoxious than the movie GIFs that people keep uploading. They are smaller in terms of pixels, and file size, and are far less flashy. So... I wouldn't go for a straight ban, but, certainly we could discourage them unless they are tasteful. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 01:47, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
::I'd be sad if we deleted the [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] one. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 02:58, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, those three should stay. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 03:00, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

:The one on [[Ginrai]] would be a damned shame to lose.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 03:24, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

::Generally speaking, I never think outright bans are the correct response when what you ''really'' want is for people to exercise restraint.
::(Of course, I made 3 of the 4 examples people cited of animated gifs that don't suck, so I'm biased.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:14, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
::::You know what we should do? Make an animated gif warning people against using them!
::::Seriously, what confuses is that Chosen40k uploading not only an animated gif, but a *redundant* animated gif. I mean, my collage of screencaps for that very scene is right there... I blame the Wikipedia. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:03, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

== Red Links on Main Page ==

So, we have two red links on the main page, "TV and movies" and "Toys". Were those links always red, or did something get moved? [[User:JW|JW]] 20:32, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

:The pages were deleted for being lists. I've added redirects to prevent these broken links. You can view the old content in the [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=TV_and_movies&oldid=85218 page] [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Toys&oldid=33798 history]. [[User:Angela|Angela]]<staff /> ([[User talk:Angela|talk]]) 23:57, 21 August 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Ruined FOREVER

2007-09-06T05:07:24Z

70.190.251.10: /* Where do we draw the line? */

I see no point to having this article. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 07:11, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:There are 4 instances of Ruined Forever on [[Transformers timeline|this page]] alone. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:16, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

::I see no point to having those, either. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 07:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:::JaAm has a page. 'Ruined Forever' is used ironically within the fandom- and this is clearly marked as a fandom article just like [[True fan]] is. Ruined Forever is clearly more prominent than [[Dull surprise]], though possibly not as widely as [[Neon]]. (Which now that I look at it need its opening quote reformatted...) My entire impetus for creating it was that Sntint made an ironic Ruined Forever joke on a talk page and I was like- "huh, why dont' we have a page for that?" (Well, also I wanted to wash the bad tast of [[Don Murray]] out of my brain.)
:::Ruined Forever appears to rest comfortably within the range of existing articles on the Wiki, but I am content to allow others to decide. If a majority think it's not relevant to Transformers the article can be deleted, as always. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:37, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
::::I say it's as relevant as Playskool, neon, and FIRRIB. {{unsigned|Terrocon Blot}}
:::::And Derik on the rebound to make me feel dumber. It's not enough that I misspelled my own screenname, he's also got to sign my posts for me. Damn that Derik. YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWN. --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 07:49, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I vote for keeping the page. As already stated, a number of other pages already exist to explain similar fandom colloquialisms. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 13:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:I don't see this article as explaining anything. It seems to exist purely to ridicule fandom behavior that we don't like, and thus I see no point to keeping it. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:35, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I think it needs to stay too. Where else would terms like ''Ruined FOREVER'', [[Furmanism]], and [[Chewed caramels]] be documented for all time, if not here?--[[User:Evil-yuusha|Evil-yuusha]] 14:59, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:Do these fandom terms need to be ones that are famous/infamous, known or used widely? Then how about TFW2005's 'HE TELL ME' (in reference to that guy who claimed Peter Cullen was cast as RID Prime)? TFW2005 is probably the most prominent of the Transformers fan sites, as well as the one that Hasbro seems to unofficially prefer. I personally never even heard of 'dull surprise' until I read it on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:49, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
::Nor I. But I don't think we're just documenting memes-- each of these articles, Truk !Munky, Chewed caramels even JaAm are 'about' a belief/response/tendency in fandom- not just the phrase used to illustrate it. Dull Surprise is a belief the masturbatory praise heaped on Superstar Funana was undeserved, JaAm is about the backlash against Dreamwave's style-over-sanity lack of visual storytelling, Truk not Monkey encompasses both knee-jerk hatred of BW and frustration about knee-jerks, and Chewed caramels ''seems'' to be about a desire that all TF toylines subscribe to some broad interpretation of G1's design aesthetic. I doubt anyone put ''conscious thought'' into this, but the fandom-meme articles people found worthy of creating aren't ''just'' about the phrase- they're about phrases that expresses something larger about how fans relate to Transformers.
::(I'm not familiar with 'HE TELL ME' and where it may fall with this.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:21, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:::Personally, I think dull surprise is way too limited in use (basically just #wiigii! as far as I know) to really belong here, but Derik does sort of have a point about the article being about a little more than that. I also don't know "HE TELL ME" but it sounds like something worth considering -- claims of unnamed inside sources and all that. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 01:27, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

::::Oops, it was actually Peter Cullen as Armada Prime. The posts (being from 2002), no longer exists, but fortunately blitz_64 managed to save the posts for posterity [http://www.geocities.com/blitz_64/HETELLME.html The Saga of HE TELL ME and GoOP].

::::Actually, Steve-o, I'd say "Secret Inside Sources" would be a more appropriate meme/article to describe that last one. Having never heard of "HE TELL ME", and seeing that few others apparently have either, I'm not sure it's as much a meme as "Secret Inside Sources" is.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 13:45, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

::::Around the same period, I recall some other idiot who claimed to be a Hasbro photographer and described crazy things like the Mini-Cons becoming body armour and Prime's minicon transforming into his Matrix. These claims, while totally false, were important because they apparently spurred Aaron to emerge as ORSON and totally destroy that other dude, IIRC. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:28, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::I remember that quite vividly indeed. The guy who claimed to be the photographer actually revealed himself over [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26415&st=20&p=551756&#entry551756 at the Allspark this year], actually. Oh yeah, and I think the animu thing was 4Chan leakage [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=animu].--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 05:46, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

==Usage==
Has "ruined forever" ever been used seriously by fans? While it describes a real and annoying sentiment, I'm not sure I like basing an article on a phrase that was sarcastic in the first place. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 18:26, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:Seconded. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 18:32, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:I'm sure something very similar, at least, has been used. But regardless, you say that it describes a real sentiment, so, what's the problem? Can you recommend a better title for the article? Or are you saying the article shouldn't exist at all? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 19:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
::Well, my vote is for not existing at all. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:22, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
::: I (and a number of others) used to think "Rapeing my childood" was only used for sarcastic reasons. Then I read the thread on the promo poster for Transformers Animated, which had a number or people using the seriously. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 20:30, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:Has Trukk not Munky ever been used in a non Ironic/Sarcastic way? It's still a catchphrase used by the fandom, as is this. Both rate articles under the fandom category, IMo.--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:24, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:The '''scream your head off in outraged panic''' / '''call for mass-firings or send death threats over something that has/will ruin/ed TF''' ''behavior'' of this article certainly was in evidence during Beast Machines- and I think the "sky is falling" aspect is amply evidenced by the sheer ''number'' of times fans have declared TF ruined forever. (And, clearly, been wrong every time, or every time but 1 depending on your belief system.)
:If you have some other title you'd prefer for this article like 'Clicken-Little Syndrome' by all means propose it and see what people think, but the article speaks to a genuine (and highly mockable) aspect of fandom psychology.
:And frankly, while the ''behavior'' itself is worthy of ridicule, the ''reason'' for it- an exaggerated concern for the health and future of the brand- is actually kinda ''endearing'' and speaks well of fans. At least their ''hearts'' are in the right place. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:32, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

==Paul Dini==

I think accusing the fandom of saying the art style of Paul Dini ''the writer'' being used for Animated will "RUIN TRANSFORMERS FOREVER" is making the article simply too mean-spirited. I've never seen any individual display the idiocy we're accusing the fandom of with that line. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 05:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I have.
Scary, scary stuff.

Also, the last line of the entry seems to cut a little into the humor by overexplaining. Replace it with a "general hasbro idiocy" linking to "transformers" or somesuch?

==Marked for deletion.==

This is getting out of hand.

This page has become the epicenter of an edit war that has gone on for nearly a week now. As of the time of this writing, only six other pages link to this article. While I fully support the light tone of Teletraan I, and I understand that some explanation of aspects of the fandom complete the Wiki, I believe this particular article and debate at this point only detracts from the issue.

I DO agree that it was biased in the form in which it existed before our anonymous editor "friend" decided to change it, but I do not think that matters any longer. This article does not add anything inherently positive to the wiki, indeed, it does not chronicle anything positive ''or'' negative about Transformers itself at all. Its relation to Transformers is tangential at best.

By deleting this, we would not lose anything except the beginnings of what appear to be the modern equivalent of a Usenet flamewar. Deleting it, I believe, can only benefit Teletraan I. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 12:16, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

:I whole-heartedly agree. [[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:23, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
::I agree. I didn't feel this article was necessary, and I still don't. I agree that the fandom is full of idiots who never bothered to grow up after 1986, but our mockery of them doesn't belong in the wiki. Not to say that Mister "integrity of the characters" is right, though. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 12:30, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
:::I'm putting in a vote for keeping it. It's a fun article to read, and it speaks a lot of truth in it's wonderfully snarky way.--[[User:Gouki|Gouki]] 12:32, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Snarkyness can be fun but this article is just pushing it, IMO. [[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:38, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::I think it should stay, it's funny. Also, if you delete it then the terrorists win.
::::::I would keep it. I think it describes a real sentiment, that needs to be pointed out as overblown. [[User:JW|JW]] 13:55, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
The edit war was only between registered users and a single unregistered dude. I've fixed things, at least for the moment, by protecting the page from unregistered editors. If you're gonna get in a pissy editing war, we'd damn well better know who you are. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:26, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
:Our anonymous friend is from the Netherlands, if anybody cares. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 14:33, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

This "Ruined FOREVER" article is stupid and don't make any sense. Its just shit

: [[Seafood Louis]]. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:00, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't know if the opinion of an anon means anything, but I think this article is freaking hilarious. I was talking with a friend about TF:Animated and he said that the girl with the transforming bike 'ruined it permanently' so I linked him this article. He laughed and said, 'ok, well maybe I'm over-reacting.'

I think the article is funny and provides valuable perspective. {{unsigned|66.167.253.76}}
: Well said, citizen. [[User:JW|JW]] 16:23, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
:Well, you've cancelled out the other anon from earlier, at any rate. And yeah, I agree with your assessment of it.--[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 22:43, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
:Same --[[User:Chiasaur11|Chiasaur11]]

I happen to think this article is incredibly useful in charting the tendency for all fans everywhere (but especially TF fans) to react in comical and hyperbolic ways. I think the breadth of what people determine can/has ruined TF forever automatically makes the article an amusing and insightful look for the novice fan into the fandom's reactionary past.

Indeed, I actually have shown this article to people just coming back (or getting into) TF. It's inspired about as many laughs as it has genuine curiosity as to what the fandom and franchise are like as entities. Isn't that the idea of this wiki? I would think reference materials as to the history of the fandom, good and bad, are always a boon.

(and that aside, I just think it's really, really funny)

.... Aaaaaaand I had to go and screw up. Bah. That's me above. --[[User:Cmdr Crayfish|Cmdr Crayfish]] 10:24, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

==Where do we draw the line?==
How do we stop this from becoming just a giant list of everything that anyone has ever expressed any dislike for ever? Why, for instance, is ''The Beast Within'' in there? Or Gonzo (which I thought was generally accepted as at least ''better'' than We've, even if not as good at Mainframe)? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 18:34, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:I've kinda been watching this list grow with some mild irritation- it went from about 1 item for every 2 years to ''twice'' that in fairly short order, and that bothers me.
:I've sorta resolved to edit the list down this October, pruning it (so to speak) with some opportunity for people to say what should stay and what should go.
:The Beast Within has to stay though- at the ''very'' least it ruined the Dinobots forever- now whenever George Rodd brings up combiner Dinobots we have to grudgingly admit they're canon. Also, it was the reason for the article's creation in the first place. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:58, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
::Why wait? If we want this to be a list of developments that prompted widespread fury that lingered for years, we can shorten it to "Actionmasters, BW, BM, Armada, Hallit, and Bay," and perhaps a few others, right now. Then a "Trivia" note saying that The Beast Within really DID ruin Transformers, or at least Dinobots, forever. Just a thought... but yeah, having every single series in there dilutes the point. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 19:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Problem is, how do you decide what deserves to be listed as ruining TF forever, if none of it really did in the first place. I've seen just about everything listed there used as an example of why ____ TF series/movie/toyline will fail--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 20:15, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Also, Thy, I'd append your list with a general "*-masters" thing, as a lot of armchair CEOs claim that the entire -master trend killed the line, not the fact that it had, you know, run its course. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 14:03, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
:::I'll just basically agree with Thy and Hoop that whatever's listed here should have a certain "endurance" as a scapegoat. The turnaround of opinion on Animated was what, two weeks? "* Masters" certainly counts, as should Pretenders. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 14:35, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
:I doubt I'd get objections if I added it, but I'd like to throw it by the community: Should we readd [[Kiss Players]]? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 04:53, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

::I really think Animated should stay in there, if only because it's '''such a dramatic departure.''' Turn around was fast, but the initial reaction was strong. I mean, for the first time in fifteen years of being a fan, I actually found myself muttering "My god... they've finally done it. It's ruined..." --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 05:07, 6 September 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Optimus Prime (G1)

2007-09-01T15:05:02Z

70.190.251.10: /* Generation 1 cartoon */ Restoring captions

{{Template:Disambig3|Optimus Prime}}

:''Optimus Prime is the leader of the [[Autobots]] in the [[Generation 1]] continuity family. Before he became Optimus Prime, he was named alternatively '''Orion Pax''' or '''Optronix''' in certain continuities.''

[[Image:Optimusg1.jpg|right|thumb|300px|I'm that guy everyone remembers. No, not the [[Soundwave (G1)|tape guy]], the ''other'' guy.]]
{{quote|Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.|Optimus Prime}}

'''Optimus Prime''' is the awe-inspiring [[Supreme Commander|commander]] of the Autobot forces. Originally a mere civilian, he was chosen by the Matrix to [[Prime (rank)|lead]], the first in a number of heavy burdens he has been forced to bear. Another is his bringing of the Transformers' conflict to Earth. The complete opposite of his mortal enemy [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], every casualty, human or Cybertronian, weighs heavily on his [[spark]]. He does not show this side to his soldiers, and he never succumbs to despair. The Autobots need a decisive, charismatic leader, and that is what he gives them. It was that leadership which turned the tide of the [[Great War]].

On the battlefield, there are few who rival Optimus Prime's prowess. He is easily the strongest of any Autobot his [[Scale|size]], and what he lacks in raw firepower he easily compensates with guts. He would sacrifice his life to protect his fellow Autobots or those under their care, and has on a few occasions. His compassion for other sentient beings is his only real weakness... though it's also the source of his strength!

Prime (usually) carries within him the [[Matrix of Leadership]].

:''Japanese name:'' '''Convoy'''<br>
:''French-Canadian Name:'' '''Optimus Primus'''
:''Italian name:'' '''Commander'''
:''Hungarian name:'' '''Optimusz Fővezér
:''Czech Name:'' '''Optimus Primus'''
:''Brazilian Name - cartoon:'' '''Líder Optimus'''
:''Brazilian Name - comics:'' '''Supremus Absolutus'''

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
:''(Note: Events from the UK-only comic stories are in italics.)''
[[Image:Optimusprimeg1preearthmarvel2.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Optimus Prime's Cybertronic truck mode, along with a Cybertronic Grumman X-29 , a Cybertronic Earth motorcycle, and a Cybertronic Porsche 962.]]

''Before the [[Great War]] broke out on Cybertron, the robot who would be Optimus Prime (his name before becoming the Prime Autobot remains unknown) was a Transformer of note, displaying his skills in the Infraformers Sharp-shooting Competition.'' Subsequently, when the war began, Prime quickly made a name for himself as a combat leader. On a mission with the [[Triggerbot (G1)|Triggerbots]] to stop [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] from claiming the [[Underbase]], Prime was forced to jettison the massive databank into space to prevent anyone acquiring its power, but with this action, proved his wisdom and skill to the [[Autobot Council of Elders]]. ''The outbreak of the Great War saw Autobot territories falling under Decepticon dominion, one City-State at a time. The last City-State to be taken was the Autobot capital of [[Iacon]]. As Decepticons besieged Iacon, the Council of Elders prepared to surrender. Councillor [[Xaaron]] suggested that High Councillor [[Traachon]] step down and allow a military officer to assume Autobot leadership. Traachon then used his powers of veto and effectively elected himself out of office, allowing Optimus Prime to assume supreme command of the Autobots, becoming the first soldier to ever hold the mantle of Autobot leadership.''
[[Image:Optimusprimeg1marvelfirst.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Optimus Prime's first fictional appearance.]]

Four million years ago, Cybertron - shaken from its orbit and drifting through space - came under threat when it floated into the path of a massive asteroid swarm that could potentially devastate the planet. Prime led a group of his most powerful Autobot warriors on the Autobot starship, the Ark, on a mission to destroy the asteroids, and although successful, in the aftermath of this mission the Ark was attacked by Decepticons, hoping to overcome their weakened foes. Intent on keeping the secrets of the Ark's computer, [[Auntie]], from the Decepticons, Prime set the craft on a suicide course, crashing it into the prehistoric planet Earth.

In 1984 C.E., a volcanic eruption reactivated Auntie, which in turn brought the Transformers back on-line. Prime led the Autobots in their opening battles to prevent the Decepticons from plundering Earth's resources, but following their initial victory, the Autobots were all deactivated by [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. Prime was decapitated by Shockwave, and had the energy of the Creation Matrix leeched from his mind to give life to Shockwave's creations, the [[Constructicon]]s (although Shockwave was unaware that the Matrix was not merely a program in Prime's mind, but a physical object in his chest). Before Shockwave could give life to his next Decepticon, [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]], Prime transferred the Matrix energy into the mind of [[Buster Witwicky]], who used the energy to turn Jetfire on Shockwave, allowing Prime to reclaim his body and retake leadership of the Autobots, giving Jetfire true life as a reward.

[[Image:NOOOOO.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Real dignified, Prime.]]
''Optimus Prime began to consider whether he was too important to the Autobots, and if they could carry on should he fall. To alleve his doubts, he and a reluctant [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] plotted to fake Prime's death to teach the Autobots how to fend for themselves. While Prime was setting up an imposter version of himself to leave behind destroyed for the Autobots to find, Megatron sent the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]] to attack Prime. In an ironic twist, would the Autobots stumble across a genuine dead Prime?''

After a period of effective leadership, Prime engaged Megatron in a [[video game]] duel for possession of a super fuel. Prime was victorious, but Megatron implemented a cheat code, allowing him to re-enter the game. Prime was able to defeat him yet again, but in doing so, he also destroyed several of the game sprites, and refused to accept his victory, as he had performed an action that compromised his beliefs about the preservation of life, which he would never have done, had the duel been real. In accordance with the rules of the game, Prime's body exploded and he died. Autobot surgeon [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]'s subsequent efforts to restore him were unsuccessful, and his body was launched into space. The funeral barge eventually crashed on giant moon where it lay for untold time. At one stage, an alien ship crashed near the barge. The dying alien reached out toward the Matrix, with the Matrix choosing to revive the being as Death Bringer. Much later, the Matrix would revive a small predatory animal which would prove instrumental to the conclusion of the Matrix Quest.

Prime's personality had been copied onto a [[floppy disk]] by the technician running the game, [[Ethan Zachary]], who employed him in various video game scenarios he developed. Prime's damaged mind led him to belive that he himself was a video game character, and in an attempt to bring him back to life, [[Bumblebee (G1)|Goldbug]], [[Joyride]], [[Slapdash]], and [[Getaway]] took the disk to the planet [[Nebulos]], where a new body was constructed for Prime. They built a new body for Optimus Prime, and even upgraded it with the ability to combine with the trailer to form a larger robot. In an effort to keep Transformers off their planet, however, the Nebulans had poisoned their fuel, and the sensation of dying convinced Prime that he was truly alive, and not a game character. To save his life, the Nebulan scientist [[Hi-Q]] [[binary-bonding|bonded]] with him, creating '''[[Powermaster]] Optimus Prime'''.

Powermaster Prime and his Autobots later battled [[Deathbringer]]. ''Optimus Prime immediately sensed Matrix energies emanating from Death Bringer, and realised that the undead reaper was a creation of the Matrix. Although Death Bringer proved to be invulnerable, Optimus Prime was finally able to defeat it by convincing it to self-destruct in concordance with its primary function. The battle with Death Bringer alerted Optimus Prime to the fact that his old body was still out there somewhere in space, and more importantly, that the Matrix that it carried was also with it. With a war to win, the location of the Matrix was not a high priority.''

With the subsequent threat of [[Unicron]] looming, priorites quickly changed and Prime began a quest to locate his old body and the physical Matrix object within it. When the Matrix was successfully reacquired, Prime sacrificed his life one more time to destroy Unicron by plunging the Matrix into his maw. However, the Powermaster process had been working to fully bond Prime and Hi-Q, and with Prime now destroyed, the process completed itself in Hi-Q's body, and the two minds and souls became one. Hi-Q's biomechanical body was stripped down and reconstructed by the [[Last Autobot]], creating a brand new Optimus Prime.

===="Another Time and Place" text story ([[retcon]]ned)====

====Generation 2====
[[image:Optimusprime-g2.jpg|right|thumb|150px|Apparently going G2 makes you blockier.]]

Prime was plagued by visions of the [[Swarm]] - a destructive by-product of Transformer reproduction - entering into an alliance with Megatron against it and the forces of the second-generation [[Cybertronian]]s led by [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]]. Prime's body was destroyed yet again when he confronted the Swarm, but upon releasing the energy of the Matrix into it, purifying it, Prime was reborn by the repentant creature. At the end of the battle, Prime’s dream of reuniting the two races of Transformers into a single force for good seemed to be a possibility when the [[Autobot]]s and [[Decepticon]]s fought side by side against a common foe.

===Animated continuity===

====Generation 1 cartoon====

:''Voice actors:'' [[Peter Cullen]] (US), [[Tesshō Genda]] (Japan), [[Francis Lax]] (France)<br>

[[Image:Orionpax.jpg|left|thumb| Dock worker Orion Pax and his girlfriend Ariel. What she does at the docks? Well......]]

Optimus Prime began his life as a robot named '''Orion Pax''', a simple dock worker during the Golden Age of Cybertron nine million years ago, with a girlfriend named [[Ariel]], and a best friend named [[Dion]]. At the time, a new breed of robot had recently appeared on the planet - ones with new robot-mode flight powers that made Orion idolize them. Unfortunately for Orion, when [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], the leader of these robots, approached him with inquiries about using one of the dock warehouses, Orion fell for the deception and he and Ariel were fatally wounded when Megatron and his forces then attacked in order to claim the energy stored there. Searching for someone to help them, the time-displaced [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] took Orion and Ariel to the ancient Autobot [[Alpha Trion]], who used them as the first subjects for the new reconstruction process he had developed - rebuilding the frail Autobot frames into battle-hardy configurations. With this reconstruction, Orion Pax became Optimus Prime, the first of the Autobot warriors, who took the mantle of leadership as the civil war against Megatron and Decepticons erupted, while Ariel was rebuilt into [[Elita One (G1)|Elita One]], the commander of the Autobot resistance on Cybertron.

[[Image:Optimusmtmtep1.jpg|thumb|right|Turn INTO the skid.]]

As leader of the Autobots, Prime headed up the Autobots' mission to search out new worlds with new sources of energy to revitalise the depleted Cybertron. However, shortly after its launch, the [[Ark (G1)|Autobots' craft]] was attacked by the [[Nemesis|Decepticon space cruiser]] and boarded by Megatron and the Decepticons. In the ensuing struggle, the g-forces of a nearby planet pulled both crafts down, and the Autobots' ship crashed into a volcano, thrusting all the occupants of the ship into emergency stasis. Four million years later, in the Earth year 1984 C.E., a volcanic eruption jarred the ship's computer, [[Teletraan I]] back to life, and it reactivated the Decepticons, programming them with new Earth-based disguise modes. As a petty parting gesture, [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] fired upon the Autobot ship, creating a landslide that knocked Prime into the path of the computer's restoration beam, restoring him to life, and beginning the war anew on Earth.

[[Image:Optimal_dunk.JPG|left|thumb|151px|Prime proving Red Bots Can Jump.]]Prime was perpetually at the forefront of the action throughout the early years of the war on Earth, usually confronting Megatron, and, in some rare instances, being forced to team up with him for the greater good (or the lesser evil). He has suffered his fair share of battlefield scrapes, almost meeting his end when his vital [[cosmotron]] component was critically damaged by the Decepticon jets and [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], and suffering a severe - though unfair - defeat when Megatron challenged him to one-on-one comabt while imbued with the different powers of all the Decepticons.

Generally, Prime acting in a commanding role as part of larger battles and event, but played prominent and solo roles in a few, also. In 1985, Megatron created a perfect duplicate of him, leaving the Autobots unable to differentiate between the two until the clone disregarded the safety of their human companion, [[Spike Witwicky]], exposing the deception. {{storylink|Prime Problem}} Later in the same year, Prime's fame and prowess led him to become the target of the demented big-game hunter, [[Lord Chumley]], who sought his head to go along with his other rare trophies. Entering the hunter's estate alone, Prime defeated all the traps and beasts lying in wait and brought Chumley to justice. {{storylink|Prime Target}} The same year also saw Elita One captured by the Decepticons on Cybertron and used to lure Prime there alone; although knowing it was a trap, he ventured in solo and was defeated by the Decepticons and nearly destroyed, until Elita's stasis-field powers froze time long enough for them to escape. Prime was forced to seek out Alpha Trion to save the wounded Elita's life, and in the process, rediscovered his forgotten connection to his creator. {{storylink|The Search for Alpha Trion}} His memorial was also built 20 years before his death. Prime was often depicted in the animation as being [[Scale|much larger than he would be in reality]] when in robot mode.

====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformer'' manga (Japan-only)====

During an energy raid on [[Tokyo]], Optimus Prime and the Autobots met up with a young Japanese boy named [[Kenji]], whose inventive mind helped them to defeat [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]]. As a token of thanks, Optimus Prime granted Kenji a special communications helmet and made him an official Autobot ally.

While showing Kenji around the Autobots' new Tokyo base, Optimus Prime lamented that he wished his "kid brother" [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] would hurry up and arrive with his trailer upgrade. As he pondered the where-abouts of his sibling, the Decepticons attacked Yokohama. The Autobots hurried to the scene only to encounter an over-powered Megatron in his newest form: the [[Super Megatron Gun]]. The Autobots' defeat seemed assured until Magnus arrived with Prime's trailer upgrade, the [[Scramble Power Buster]]. The Scramble Power Buster trumped the might of the Super Megatron Gun, leaving Prime and Magnus to vanquish the Decepticon forces with their combined attack: the Double Cross Kick (basically, them jump-kicking the Decepticons in the spine at the same time).

====''Scramble City'' (Japan-only)====

After the location of the top-secret [[Autobot City]] [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] was discovered by [[Ratbat]], Megatron unleashed a horde of Decepticon [[combiner]]s to attack the mammoth Autobot before it could be activated. Optimus Prime lead a counter-offensive of Autobot combiners to the front lines. Things looked grim, as the Decepticon combiners thrashed the Autobots. As a last resort, [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] activated Metroplex, who arrived in time to fight off the Decepticons. However, Megatron unleashed his trump card, the Decepticon City: [[Trypticon]].

====''Robot Masters'' (Japan-only)====
:''Voice actor: ? (Japan)''

Selecting a time when the original Megatron was known to have gone missing, [[Megatron (BW)|Beast Megatron]] traveled back in time via the [[Blasty Zone]] to sieze Decepticon leadership and gather precious [[solitarium]]. Beast Megatron's forces were strong, though Optimus Prime managed to fend off the villains when several time-displaced Autobots and Maximals ([[Star Saber (G1)|Star Saber]], [[Victory Leo]], [[Lio Convoy]] and [[Optimus Primal]]) came to his aid.

Beast Megatron would not relent, and eventually discovered a massive deposit of solitarium beneath [[New York City]]. The Decepticons razed the city in search of the element until Prime and his forces arrived to save the day, this time aided by the enigmatic Autobot [[Reverse Convoy]]. Things were going smoothly until Reverse Convoy revealed himself to actually be the ''real'' Megatron in disguise. Now going by the name Rebirth Megatron, Prime's nemesis teamed with Beast Megatron to conquer their mutual foes. Prime managed to defeat the duo by combining his power with Lio Convoy's and Optimus Primal's.

====''Binaltech'' (Japan-only)====
While Optimus Prime was fighting the Decepticon on Cybertron, he charged [[Ultra Magnus]] to protect the earth and to lead the construction of the new Autobot city. When the crisis annouced by Ravage arrived, he went with Ultra Magnus on a last chance mission to stop Unicron, while sending [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] into the past to restore the timeline so that recent events instigated by Ravage would not happen.

====''Transformers The Movie''====

[[Image:Optimusg1passingthematrix.jpg|thumb|left|Oh, hey, I have this in me now, by the way.]]

Over the course of the next twenty years, the [[Decepticon]]s succeeded in seizing control of all of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], forcing the Autobots to operate from their new city on Earth, and from two bases on Cybertron's moons. In the Earth year 2005 C.E., Prime was stationed on [[Moonbase One]], and dispatched troops to Earth to acquire energy for an upcoming strike on Cybertron. The Decepticons, however, got wind of the plan and attacked the shuttle, killing its occupants. Their scheme was to use the shuttle to stage a surprise attack on Autobot City; an attack which almost suceeded if not for a distress call which summoned Prime and support troops to Earth.

Optimus Prime foresaw that his final battle with his arch-nemesis was looming, deciding that the Decepticons must be stopped, no matter the cost. Bravely, he plowed through the remaining Decepticon ranks, punishing them for every Autobot they felled overnight, before confronting Megatron. In the ensuing battle with Megatron, Optimus Prime sustained fatal injuries, but not before turning the tide of battle and forcing the Decepticon to flee. Despite the efforts of [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], Optimus Prime died. The [[Matrix of Leadership]], and with it leadership of the Autobots, fell into the hands of [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], and subsequently to [[Hot Rod|Rodimus Prime]]. {{Storylink|Transformers: The Movie}}

====''Kiss Players'' (Japan-only)====
''Note: [[Kiss Players]] is set in 2006 and 2007, in the first part of the 4-year gap between Transformers the Movie and Season 3 created by the latter being entitled ''Transformers 2010'' in Japan.
=====Radio play=====
[[Image:Illust.jpg|left|thumb|150px|See? Melissa's just bein' nice.]]

In the year 1985, as Optimus Prime prepared to face his enemy [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] atop the [[Sherman Dam]], [[Fortress Maximus|Brave Maximus]] Fortress materialized nearby with an unusual crew on board. Undetected by the Autobot leader, a pop singer sextet of humans and Transformers had arrived from more than 20 years in the future, brought there by the mysterious [[Sparkbot]]s. When the [[Kiss Player]] [[Marissa Faireborn]] kissed the unsuspecting Prime, a fragment of the [[Allspark]] emerged from his chest. With their prize secured, the time travelers returned to the far future of 2007.

Years later, Prime would save the life of a young Marissa, leading to the human girl's lifelong [[wikipedia:Elektra_complex|crush]] on the mechanoid. After the Autobot leader was killed in the battle of Autobot City, Marissa rescued Optimus Prime's carcass from the clutches of the [[Earth Defense Command]] and he was resurrected in Japan in the form of a Dodge Ram SR-10. In addition to his ion blaster, he carries a weapon that he originally named the High Frequency Blade: a sword that Prime created from Marissa's beloved surfboard. Marissa hated the name, however, and renamed it the "Surf Blade". Naturally, Prime agreed to this, because really, what're you gonna do? Women, am I right, fellas?

[[Image:Marissa_convoy_stack.jpg|right|thumb|150px|She prefers the Japanese version's [[For safety reasons|''longer stacks''.]]]] Now Prime and Marissa spend their days hiding from the E.D.C. and their nights hanging out at the beach. He longs for the day when he can see her bathing in the sun, rather than the moonlight, although he thinks all that ice cream she's eating is making her a little fat.

One night while Marissa was surfing, she had a squid latch onto her. Then a [[Legion]] that had infused itself with both an octopus and shipwreck attacked her. With tentacles. Prime fought it off and saved Marissa, but the E.D.C. [[Autrooper]]s were soon dispatched to the scene, and the two had to beat a hasty retreat.

Marissa enjoys washing Prime, especially his... um... stick shift and the rim of his gas tank. Which makes Prime shudder and moan.

Eww.

''('''Note''': This is all actually part of the official fiction. Really.)''
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=====Manga=====

Following his death in America, Optimus Prime's body was covertly flown to Japan by the E.D.C. Soon thereafter, as the organization transported the robotic corpse by truck, the convoy was ambushed by a group of young female resistance commandos. Believing that they had secured Prime's body, the commandos were taken by surprise and slaughtered by the [[Ne squad]] [[Kiss Player]] [[Ringo]] and her [[Autrooper]] partner, who burst out of the torso of the false Prime.

Marissa Faireborn, the remaining member of the squad, discovered that the true body was being transported within Prime's nearby cargo trailer. Slicing the trailer open, she was too late to prevent an E.D.C. Autrooper from partially fusing with Prime. Reflecting on her childhood memories of playing with the kindly Autobot leader, Marissa lovingly kissed his faceplate. In an explosion of energy that destroyed the trailer, the two fused and Prime was converted into his new, living body.

''('''Note''': The fake Prime corpse was represented in art by the Masterpiece Convoy toy with an E.D.C. logo attached over its Autobot symbol. The real Optimus Prime was illustrated as the original toy.)''

====''Season 3/2010''====

[[Image:Optimusg1zombie.jpg|right|thumb|WHERE IS SARAH CONNOR.]]
Prime's body was entombed in a massive deep-space mausoleum with the many other fallen Autobots, but his corpse was desecrated by the [[Quintessons]] in 2006(2010 if you go by Japan's fiction), when they reanimated it as part of an attempt to destroy the Autobots by using Prime to lure their space fleet into a trap. However, the Matrix was able to purify Prime of the Quintesson influence, and he got the other Autobots clear while he piloted his flagship into the Quintessons' detonator, triggering the explosion of a nearby sun.

Prime was believed to have been destroyed in the explosion, but in reality, before the flagship impacted with the detonator, his body was recovered from the craft by two human scientists, [[Jessica Morgan]] and [[Dr. Gregory Swafford]]. However, as their ship departed, it was coated in solar spores released by the explosion of the sun. Jessica's father, [[Dr. Mark Morgan]], loathed the Autobots, and his hatred only grew when an attempt by the Decepticons to steal a heat-resistant alloy he had developed resulted in Jessica being paralyzed. Swafford and Morgan reconstructed Optimus Prime's body in an attempt to use it as a delivery system for the spores, which induced hatred and madness, in order to destroy the Transformers.

However, when they could not reanimate him, they used his body as a lure instead, bringing the Autobots to their lab, where they were infected. As this "[[Hate Plague]]" proceeded to spread across the galaxy, [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] retrieved a Quintesson, who fully restored Optimus Prime to life. Coating himself in Morgan's heat-resistant alloy, Prime reclaimed the Matrix from Rodimus and unleashed its concentrated wisdom to destroy the Hate Plague.

''('''Note''': There is a considerable continuity error concerning zombie Optimus. At the end of "[[Dark Awakening]]", Optimus is in pretty rough shape (as the screen shot shows), missing an arm, part of his face, a sizable portion of his shoulder, covered with cosmetic damage, etc. He is also apparently fully conscious as he flies the ship into the Quintesson trap as it is being ripped apart by laser fire. However, when he is discovered in "[[The Return of Optimus Prime Part 1]]", he's both whole and shining new, and apparently comatose. There is no hint whatsoever of the battle that took place only minutes previous, no Quintesson laser-fire piercing Prime's pristine ship. Plus, the sun in question is about to go nova naturally rather than by Quintesson design, which is why Morgan and Swafford were there in the first place.)''

====''Rebirth'' (America-only)====

In 2007, Prime began to suffer visions following the release of the Matrix's energy, which foretold a great transformation for Cybertron. Events began with the Decepticons' theft of the key to the [[Plasma Energy Chamber]], which forced Prime to consult Alpha Trion within [[Vector Sigma]], learning that the mega-computer had orchestrated events in order to restore Cybertron's Golden Age. When the Plasma Energy Chamber was opened and threatened to drive Earth's Sun supernova, [[Spike Witwicky]] and the other organic [[Nebulan]]s who had become involved in the conflict as a result of these events were able to drain off the excess solar energy and revitalize Cybertron.

====''Headmasters'' (Japan-only)====

''(The Headmasters anime ignores the events of the 3-part "The Rebirth" story arc and picks up a year after "The Return of Optimus Prime", in 2011.)''

One year after Prime's resurrection, the Autobots had entered into an even closer relationship with Earth and began the colonization of other worlds, the first of which was the planet Athenia, where Optimus Prime was stationed. It soon became apparent, however, that when Prime had released the energy of the Matrix to cure the Hate Plague, the consequences were more far-reaching than he had anticipated - without the energy of the Matrix to act as a balancing factor, [[Vector Sigma]] had become destabilized, and the Decepticons suddenly returned to exploit this, assaulting Cybertron in order to seize control of the mega-computer. Prime took a squad of troops to aid in the battle on the planet, and when the arrival of the Autobot [[Headmaster]]s tipped the battle in their favor, Prime broke off from the main attack and headed down into the depths of the planet, planning on stabilizing Vector Sigma at any cost.

Guided through the dangers of the planet's catacombs by the spirit of Alpha Trion while the other Autobots searched for the Matrix on Earth, Prime eventually arrived at the computer, only to find his way barred by [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] and [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]]. Hot Rod then arrived with the Matrix, with which Alpha Trion merged, re-energizing it and transforming Hot Rod back into Rodimus Prime; for the first time, the two Primes fought side-by-side and defeated Galvatron.

Before Rodimus could implement the Matrix to stabilize Vector Sigma, however, Optimus Prime sacrificed himself to perform the task, merging with the computer and restoring its balance to save the planet.

====''Battlestars: Return of Convoy'' (Japan-only)====
[[Image:StarConvoyBoxArt1.jpg|right|100px|thumb|"Some aliens are alright; Star Convoy, E.T. ...but usually they just turn out to be some kind of big lizard!"]]

In a sinister plot to destroy the Autobots, [[Dark Nova]] had Optimus Prime's [[spark|sparkless]] body revived as the evil [[False Convoy]]. False Convoy battled the Autobots but was defeated. Using the power of the [[Zodiac|the Zodiac]], Optimus Prime was brought back online and upgraded into '''Star Convoy'''. He was then reunited with [[Hot Rod (G1)#Battlestars: Return of Convoy (Japan-only)|Hot Rod]], who became his [[Micromaster]] partner.

With the likes of [[Sky Garry]], [[Grandus]] and [[Sixliner]], Star Convoy did battle with the Decepticons and Dark Nova's hoard of [[Great Galaman]] drone warriors. Getting nowhere fast, Dark Nova then resurrected [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] (last seen buried in ice) as [[Megatron (G1)#Battlestars: Return of Convoy (Japan-only)|Super Megatron]] to counter Star Convoy. This didn't work all that well, and after defeating Super Megatron, his foe was resurrected again by Dark Nova as [[Megatron (G1)#Battlestars: Return of Convoy (Japan-only)|Ultra Megatron]]. After disposing of him yet again, Dark Nova merged with Ultra Megatron into [[Dark Nova|Star Giant]].

Star Giant proved to be virtually indestructible from the outside until Star Convoy got the bright idea of giving the villain indigestion. Holding Star Giant's massive mouth open, he ordered Sky Garry and [[Grandus]] to move in. After all 3 were swallowed, they began taking Star Giant down from the inside while simulataneously fighting off his various defensive systems. As soon as the trio escaped from Star Giant's interior, the monster exploded, leaving only his head slightly intact. As it happens, Megatron was housed inside Star Giant's noggin and survived the attack.

====Generation 2 manga (Japan-only)====
[[Image:BattleConvoy.jpg|thumb|left|125px|I hope the bastards fixed my weak stomach problem.]]

After the end of [[Battlestars]], Optimus Prime down-graded back to his original body. Megatron eventually recovered from the Star Giant incident and supposedly turned over a new leaf. Megatron joined with Prime to form the [[Cybertron Alliance]], and things were good for a little while, as Megatron's attempts at peace were genuinely sincere. The alliance ushered in what would be called the Second Generation of the Transformers. However, after human soldiers killed one of his dearest comrades, Megatron adopted a new body and started the war anew.

[[Image:G2PrimeJustice.jpg|thumb|right|SHALOM!]]
To counter Megatron, Optimus Prime upgraded his body into a new Missle Trailer mode. Rallying a new wave of Autobot warriors, Optimus dilligently repelled Megatron and the Decepticons. Megatron eventually wore Optimus down in battle, though, blowing him away with a barrage of devastating attacks. Megatron finally succeeded in delivering a fatal blow to Optimus, shooting him at point blank with his cannon. Prime would have been done for, except that the [[spark|sparks]] of the previous Autobot Supreme Commanders within the [[Matrix of Leadership]] activated the [[Reconfiguration Matrix]] to forge him a new body. Optimus Prime became '''Battle Convoy''' and easily trumped Megatron's power. After a lengthy and costly war, Battle Convoy managed to drive the Decepticon forces to retreat into deep space. Prime was last seen wounded, being aided off the battlefield by his fellow Autobots.
=====E-Hobby=====
Presumingly using his [[Reconfiguration Matrix]] to revert to his original body, Optimus Prime came into possession of two powerful Solar-powered missile launchers created by the Decepticons. The energy consumption of these missiles is so large that it was necessary for Prime to be given a Sunlight-absorbing [[Wikipedia:Black body|Black body]] coating in order for them to operate at full power. It was in this form that Prime rescued Laser Rod Ultra Magnus from [[Galvatron II]].

=====Generation 2: "The Earth is in Danger!"=====

''(Note: this manga special is '''not''' in continuity with the Japanese G2 story pages and minicomics.)''
[[Image: G2Hero.jpg|left|thumb|100px|Good. Good. Just keep looking that way. Yeah.]]
In the year 199X, the Decepticons had learned of a powerful new energy source known as [[forestonite]] which just happened to be located (surprise surprise) on [[Earth]]. Megatron sent his trio of [[Cyberjet]]s to Earth first to draw out the enemy Autobots. The Cyberjets made quick work of [[Electro]] but were soon halted by the appearance of Optimus Prime.

Megatron then entered the fray and fired his Black Hole Burn attack from his fusion cannon, narrowly missing Optimus Prime but vaporizing [[Hooligan]] in the process. Prime fought fiercely but Megatron began to take the upper-hand in battle.

However, Prime was encouraged to keep fighting by the cheers of a human boy named [[Junpei]]. Megatron, surprised at Prime's resiliance, attempted to finish his foe off with his Tornado Axe attack. Prime countered with his Double Wheel-Torque Mega-Ton, which trumped Megatron's attack and injured the Decepticon badly. Megatron teleported back to his ship and left Earth's atmosphere, vowing to return.

Optimus Prime adressed Junpei, asking if the boy was injured. Junpei revealed he was alright but presented concern about the Decepticons returning to Earth. Optimus Prime swore that the Autobots would remain on Earth until the threat of the Decepticons was finished and asked for Junpei's help in making that future a reality.

===Beast Era===

====''Beast Wars''====
[[Image:G1Prime_BWMegs.jpg|right|thumb|You have to get up preeeeetty early in the timestream to beat Optimus Prime!]]
The Beast Wars raged on prehistoric Earth, eventually leading to the discovery of the buried Ark. [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]], following his namesakes instructions in a desperate gambit, decided to attempt to change history by killing Prime, who was still lying in the Ark in [[stasis lock]]. Megatron hoped that this would result in the Decepticons winning the Great War and eventually [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] control of Cybertron. Megatron unleashed a full-power weapon blast at Optimus Prime's face, near-fatally injuring him. {{storylink|The Agenda, Part 3}} However, [[Optimus Primal (BW)|Optimus Primal]] proceeded to take Prime's spark into his body to protect it from surgical trauma while his injuries were repaired. The subsequent power increase caused by Prime's spark's connection to the Matrix mutated Primal into a large, [[Transmetal]] "Optimal Optimus" form. Then, with the repairs complete, Prime's spark was restored, and he briefly activated before sinking back into normal stasis. {{storylink|Optimal Situation}}

Sometime after the Autobots and Decepticons awoke in the 1980s, the original Megatron gained access to one of Earth's ''Voyager'' spacecraft and inscribed a message on the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|disk]] on board. In the event that he lost the War, Megatron left instructions for the descendants of the Decepticons to use [[transwarp]] technology to travel to Prehistoric Earth, locate the ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'', and change history by killing Optimus Prime. {{storylink|The Agenda, Part 2}}

====''Beast Machines''====

An enormous statue of Optimus Prime, bearing two [[Golden Disk]]s, could be seen on Cybertron in front of the Hall of Archives. The statue was subsequently blown to pieces by the [[Vehicon]] forces. Later, Megatron beamed a hologram of Optimus Prime down to the ruins of [[Iacon]] to confront [[Optimus Primal]]. Primal mistook the hologram for the real thing and shared with it the code for the [[Oracle]]. Megatron quickly revealed his ruse. Primal explained to his Maximals that he knew the image was fake, but he needed the location of the missing [[spark]]s from Megatron's mind.

====''Universe: Primeval Dawn''====
[[Image:Sparkholderprimevaldawn.jpg|right|190px|thumb|Oh, I also have ''this'' in me now, too.]]
The Vok took the Matrix of Leadership from an unconscious Optimus Prime, used it to create [[Primal Prime]], then gave the Matrix to their new creation.

''('''Note''': In the Beast Wars cartoon, Prime's spark was shown to be contained in a Matrix-like vessel. In [[Universe (comic)|Primeval Dawn]], that vessel was shown to be merely a container for his spark, and the actual Matrix was hidden underneath.)''

===Kid Stuff Talking Story Books===
'''Voice actor: Unknown'''

[[Image:KidsPrime1.jpg|left|150px|thumb|And the fluffy kitten played with that yarn, all gosh darn night.]]

Optimus Prime is a "metallic nemesis." Megatron said so.

In "[[The Great Car Rally]]", a 2-part race was being held with a massive supply of oil and gasoline as the prize. The Decepticons wanted it badly, but so did the Autobots. Megatron entered the race by hiding himself inside a hollowed-out car, but ended up losing to [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]]. Optimus Prime celebrated the Minibot's victory with a gargantuan smile as all the Decepticons starved to death.

===Dreamwave comics continuity===

Optimus Prime started life as '''Optronix''' (Orion to his friends<ref>The [[Keepers Trilogy]] novels set in Dreamwave continuity</ref>), a data archivist. After taking note of a battle in which the Autobot leader [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]] had been defeated by Megatron, he was summoned to the council of elders and informed that the Matrix had chosen him to be the next leader of the Autobots. He received the Matrix of Leadership shortly thereafter, gaining a powerful new body in the process, and almost arranged for the Autobot evacuation of Cybertron, intending to leave the Decepticons to their own devices, until a battle with Megatron beneath the planet's surface, accompanied by visions from the Matrix, stirred him on to fight for the safety of his homeworld. Some time into his role as leader, Prime disappeared in a [[space bridge]] explosion along with Megatron, but returned some time later, having spent a period of time on [[Quintessa]].

[[Image:Optronix_optimus.jpg|thumb|right|What? OPTRONIX is evolving!]]

Following the awakening of the Transformers on Earth, the Autobots allied with humankind and eventually defeated the Decepticons at the turn of the century. They planned to return to Cybertron aboard the newly constructed "[[Ark_II|Ark II]]," but the ship was destroyed as part of a military conspiracy to take control of the Transformers. However, a terrorist organization run by the enigmatic [[Lazarus]] was able to seize control of several of the Transformers that fell back to Earth, while the U.S. military located Prime's body. Before his departure, Prime had entrusted a small portion of the Matrix to [[Spike Witwicky]], who was forced by the product chief, General [[Robert Hallo]], to use it to reactivate Prime. Functional again, Prime used the Matrix to reactivate more of his fallen comrades, and then faced off against Megatron in [[San Francisco]].

Following this, Prime began to experience subconscious urgings, leading both the Autobots and the Decepticons to the Arctic Circle, where Shockwave arrived to greet them - and arrest them as war criminals. Shockwave had succeeded in ending the war on Cybertron, but Prime soon fell in with a rebel Autobot group that had discovered Shockwave had a greater agenda. Rallying Autobots across Cybertron to the cause, Prime faced Shockwave in battle but was defeated and had the Matrix ripped from him and used to activate Vector Sigma. Before Shockwave could make full use of the mega-computer's data, however, [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] arrived and bested him. The injuries Prime took in this conflicted necessitated a prolonged restoration period in stasis.

=== IDW comics continuity ===
[[Image:IDWBeforeEarth_Prime.jpg|left|thumb|150px|I'll... ''I'll what, I'll what?!'']]

Optimus Prime commands the Autobot armed forces spread across the galaxy from the [[Autobot Orbital Command Hub]]. He was directly involved in the cataclysm ([[IDW timeline|just under 450 years ago]]) that reduced Cybertron to a dead husk, fighting alongside Megatron in a futile attempt to stop [[Thunderwing_(G1)|Thunderwing]]'s rampage.

[[Image:IDWOptimus.jpg|right|thumb|150px|Freedom is the right of all sentient and heavily armed beings.]]

In the present, after the Autobot science vessel ''[[Calabi-Yau]]'' sends a distress signal from above [[Thunderhead Pass]], he ordered the [[Wreckers]] to withdraw from [[Varas_Centralus|Varas Centralus]] and meet him on Cybertron. {{Storylink|Stormbringer, Part 2}} Thunderwing had been restored by [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] and his followers, and though the Wreckers made short work of them, the real fight would be met with Thunderwing. After the Wreckers, Predacons and Centurion drones were unable to destroy the monster, Prime took to the field, firing massive amounts of energy at Thunderwing, forcing it to exhaust its last reserves of [[Ultra Energon]] and, ultimately, its life. {{storylink|Stormbringer, Part 4}}
[[Image:IDWPrime_Earth.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Don't crush the cameraman!]]
Information uncovered in Bludgeon's files about the mysterious new form of Energon prompted Prime to divert his spacecraft to Earth and call [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] in to assist him.{{storylink|Spotlight Nightbeat}}. Shortly after arrival - having undergone alteration so that he can disguise himself as an Earth truck {{Storylink|Infiltration, Part 6}} - he slowly began to realize how unusual the situation Prowl's unit had found itself in was. Not only had the Decepticons broken their own infiltration protocols over what Starscream had dubbed Ore-13, but after attempting to recover what appeared to be Sunstreaker's remains{{Storylink|Escalation, Issue 2}}, it was also evident that some of the planet's native sentients - humans - posed a threat possibly equal to that of their old enemies.

Optimus Prime, now fully filled in on Earth's happenings, decided that they needed reinforcements. He called [[Nightbeat]], [[Hot Rod]], and [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]] to come when they could. When Prowl pointed out that Megatron, in his new gun-based Earth mode, was in the breakaway Soviet state of Brasnya stirring up trouble, Prime ordered them into action.

[[Blitzwing]] almost got the drop on Prime, but Roller was right behind him, and executed him with one single shot. Megatron returned to his full-size robot mode and disagreed with the quality of Prime's tea and crumpets. At last, the two rivals were going to go at it.

The fight, at first, went well, with Prime blowing Megatron's fusion blaster clean off. Megatron, however, tireless thanks to Ore-13, prevailed, almost beating Prime into stasis lock.{{storylink|Escalation, Issue 5}}

However Prime transfered his consciousness into his trailer, leading Megatron to believe him dead. Realising that "Ore-13" was the same as Ultra Energon, Prime returned to his body in time to save his forces from the relentless Megatron, dealing enough damage to the Decepticon leader to drain his power reserves, just as he did against Thunderwing. The victory was narrow however, leaving Optimus with the daunting task of fending off an increasing enemy force without his last ace in the hole. {{storylink|Escalation, Issue 6}}

This near-death experience had left Prime somewhat unsettled. While his conciousness was in infraspace downloading to his trailer, he sensed a presence of dread - the visage of his long-missing predecessor [[Nova Prime]]. Looking for answers, Optimus Prime left Earth temporarily to seek an audience with [[Omega Supreme]] for answers. Once there, he found out about Nova's beliefs of how Transformers were better than everyone else and should show it, and faced down the rampaging Monstructor, a legacy of Nova's tenure locked away by Omega Supreme. Then he went on to give his "you shouldn't have done that" speech to Omega, hand Monstructor's limbs over to Jetfire's team, and went on to do what comic G1 Primes do best and have angst-ridden introspection about himself and the tarnished legacy of the Prime lineage. {{storylink|Spotlight Optimus Prime}}

===IDW ''[[Hearts of Steel]]'' continuity===
He appears very briefly in the first few pages, in his "Ice Age Wars" body (we only see him in robot mode, but his altmode is a brachiosaurus<ref>[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?s=d5d311674e796c81d010d26ac751389b&showtopic=10074&st=20&p=266183&#entry266183 Allspark forums post] by [[Guido Guidi]], August 15th, 2006</ref>). He spends most of the story in [[stasis lock]].
====IDW ''Hearts of Steel'' Concept Art micro-continuity====
Optimus is depicted as turning into the front half of a fanciful red-and-blue locomotive. The rear half of the locomotive turns into a battle station. Since this altmode has no place in the story, these sketches constitute a [[micro-continuity]] in which Optimus Prime and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] are active in the late 19th century.

==Toys==
See [[Optimus Prime (G1) toys]].

==Trivia==
*According to [[Bob Budiansky]], longtime comics writer [[Denny O'Neil]] named Optimus Prime prior to Budiansky being brought on to the ''Transformers'' project.

[[image:Optimusprime-mom.jpg|125px|right|thumb|Prime's mom knows how to write in cursive.]]

*Aside from occasionally having Alpha Trion as a father figure, Optimus Prime may have a mother! In an advertisement for [[Pepsi Convoy]] that shows him in a refrigerator (along with [[Destron Pizza]]), a note attached to a nearby piece of tupperware reads:

:''Dear Convoy''
:''Warm it before you eat''
:''Mom''

:Although the ad itself is for Pepsi Convoy, he is a separate character, and it can be assumed that the note was left for Convoy/Optimus Prime himself.

* The first wave of Dreamwave posters in 2001 identified Optimus Prime as [http://www.comicden.com/merch/posters.htm Captimus Primus], which is tantalizingly close to making some sort of sense.

* [[Powermaster]] Optimus Prime makes a cameo appearance in the ''Scrubs'' episode "His Story III". During the episode, J.D. and Turk paint a mural of Optimus and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] battling in the baby's nursery. Carla objects, and asks if Optimus is intentionally firing his blast into the crib, referring to him as "the big ugly one." Big mistake.

==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/OptimusPrime/optimusprime.htm Optimus Prime on TFU.info]
* [http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Optimus_Prime Optimus Prime's Universe profile at NTFA.net]
* [http://www.toybin.org/search.php?q=1984+Autobot+Optimus+Prime ToyBin Optimus Prime Toy gallery]

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Optimus Prime (G1)

2007-09-01T15:04:28Z

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{{Template:Disambig3|Optimus Prime}}

:''Optimus Prime is the leader of the [[Autobots]] in the [[Generation 1]] continuity family. Before he became Optimus Prime, he was named alternatively '''Orion Pax''' or '''Optronix''' in certain continuities.''

[[Image:Optimusg1.jpg|right|thumb|300px|I'm that guy everyone remembers. No, not the [[Soundwave (G1)|tape guy]], the ''other'' guy.]]
{{quote|Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.|Optimus Prime}}

'''Optimus Prime''' is the awe-inspiring [[Supreme Commander|commander]] of the Autobot forces. Originally a mere civilian, he was chosen by the Matrix to [[Prime (rank)|lead]], the first in a number of heavy burdens he has been forced to bear. Another is his bringing of the Transformers' conflict to Earth. The complete opposite of his mortal enemy [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], every casualty, human or Cybertronian, weighs heavily on his [[spark]]. He does not show this side to his soldiers, and he never succumbs to despair. The Autobots need a decisive, charismatic leader, and that is what he gives them. It was that leadership which turned the tide of the [[Great War]].

On the battlefield, there are few who rival Optimus Prime's prowess. He is easily the strongest of any Autobot his [[Scale|size]], and what he lacks in raw firepower he easily compensates with guts. He would sacrifice his life to protect his fellow Autobots or those under their care, and has on a few occasions. His compassion for other sentient beings is his only real weakness... though it's also the source of his strength!

Prime (usually) carries within him the [[Matrix of Leadership]].

:''Japanese name:'' '''Convoy'''<br>
:''French-Canadian Name:'' '''Optimus Primus'''
:''Italian name:'' '''Commander'''
:''Hungarian name:'' '''Optimusz Fővezér
:''Czech Name:'' '''Optimus Primus'''
:''Brazilian Name - cartoon:'' '''Líder Optimus'''
:''Brazilian Name - comics:'' '''Supremus Absolutus'''

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
:''(Note: Events from the UK-only comic stories are in italics.)''
[[Image:Optimusprimeg1preearthmarvel2.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Optimus Prime's Cybertronic truck mode, along with a Cybertronic Grumman X-29 , a Cybertronic Earth motorcycle, and a Cybertronic Porsche 962.]]

''Before the [[Great War]] broke out on Cybertron, the robot who would be Optimus Prime (his name before becoming the Prime Autobot remains unknown) was a Transformer of note, displaying his skills in the Infraformers Sharp-shooting Competition.'' Subsequently, when the war began, Prime quickly made a name for himself as a combat leader. On a mission with the [[Triggerbot (G1)|Triggerbots]] to stop [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] from claiming the [[Underbase]], Prime was forced to jettison the massive databank into space to prevent anyone acquiring its power, but with this action, proved his wisdom and skill to the [[Autobot Council of Elders]]. ''The outbreak of the Great War saw Autobot territories falling under Decepticon dominion, one City-State at a time. The last City-State to be taken was the Autobot capital of [[Iacon]]. As Decepticons besieged Iacon, the Council of Elders prepared to surrender. Councillor [[Xaaron]] suggested that High Councillor [[Traachon]] step down and allow a military officer to assume Autobot leadership. Traachon then used his powers of veto and effectively elected himself out of office, allowing Optimus Prime to assume supreme command of the Autobots, becoming the first soldier to ever hold the mantle of Autobot leadership.''
[[Image:Optimusprimeg1marvelfirst.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Optimus Prime's first fictional appearance.]]

Four million years ago, Cybertron - shaken from its orbit and drifting through space - came under threat when it floated into the path of a massive asteroid swarm that could potentially devastate the planet. Prime led a group of his most powerful Autobot warriors on the Autobot starship, the Ark, on a mission to destroy the asteroids, and although successful, in the aftermath of this mission the Ark was attacked by Decepticons, hoping to overcome their weakened foes. Intent on keeping the secrets of the Ark's computer, [[Auntie]], from the Decepticons, Prime set the craft on a suicide course, crashing it into the prehistoric planet Earth.

In 1984 C.E., a volcanic eruption reactivated Auntie, which in turn brought the Transformers back on-line. Prime led the Autobots in their opening battles to prevent the Decepticons from plundering Earth's resources, but following their initial victory, the Autobots were all deactivated by [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. Prime was decapitated by Shockwave, and had the energy of the Creation Matrix leeched from his mind to give life to Shockwave's creations, the [[Constructicon]]s (although Shockwave was unaware that the Matrix was not merely a program in Prime's mind, but a physical object in his chest). Before Shockwave could give life to his next Decepticon, [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]], Prime transferred the Matrix energy into the mind of [[Buster Witwicky]], who used the energy to turn Jetfire on Shockwave, allowing Prime to reclaim his body and retake leadership of the Autobots, giving Jetfire true life as a reward.

[[Image:NOOOOO.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Real dignified, Prime.]]
''Optimus Prime began to consider whether he was too important to the Autobots, and if they could carry on should he fall. To alleve his doubts, he and a reluctant [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] plotted to fake Prime's death to teach the Autobots how to fend for themselves. While Prime was setting up an imposter version of himself to leave behind destroyed for the Autobots to find, Megatron sent the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]] to attack Prime. In an ironic twist, would the Autobots stumble across a genuine dead Prime?''

After a period of effective leadership, Prime engaged Megatron in a [[video game]] duel for possession of a super fuel. Prime was victorious, but Megatron implemented a cheat code, allowing him to re-enter the game. Prime was able to defeat him yet again, but in doing so, he also destroyed several of the game sprites, and refused to accept his victory, as he had performed an action that compromised his beliefs about the preservation of life, which he would never have done, had the duel been real. In accordance with the rules of the game, Prime's body exploded and he died. Autobot surgeon [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]'s subsequent efforts to restore him were unsuccessful, and his body was launched into space. The funeral barge eventually crashed on giant moon where it lay for untold time. At one stage, an alien ship crashed near the barge. The dying alien reached out toward the Matrix, with the Matrix choosing to revive the being as Death Bringer. Much later, the Matrix would revive a small predatory animal which would prove instrumental to the conclusion of the Matrix Quest.

Prime's personality had been copied onto a [[floppy disk]] by the technician running the game, [[Ethan Zachary]], who employed him in various video game scenarios he developed. Prime's damaged mind led him to belive that he himself was a video game character, and in an attempt to bring him back to life, [[Bumblebee (G1)|Goldbug]], [[Joyride]], [[Slapdash]], and [[Getaway]] took the disk to the planet [[Nebulos]], where a new body was constructed for Prime. They built a new body for Optimus Prime, and even upgraded it with the ability to combine with the trailer to form a larger robot. In an effort to keep Transformers off their planet, however, the Nebulans had poisoned their fuel, and the sensation of dying convinced Prime that he was truly alive, and not a game character. To save his life, the Nebulan scientist [[Hi-Q]] [[binary-bonding|bonded]] with him, creating '''[[Powermaster]] Optimus Prime'''.

Powermaster Prime and his Autobots later battled [[Deathbringer]]. ''Optimus Prime immediately sensed Matrix energies emanating from Death Bringer, and realised that the undead reaper was a creation of the Matrix. Although Death Bringer proved to be invulnerable, Optimus Prime was finally able to defeat it by convincing it to self-destruct in concordance with its primary function. The battle with Death Bringer alerted Optimus Prime to the fact that his old body was still out there somewhere in space, and more importantly, that the Matrix that it carried was also with it. With a war to win, the location of the Matrix was not a high priority.''

With the subsequent threat of [[Unicron]] looming, priorites quickly changed and Prime began a quest to locate his old body and the physical Matrix object within it. When the Matrix was successfully reacquired, Prime sacrificed his life one more time to destroy Unicron by plunging the Matrix into his maw. However, the Powermaster process had been working to fully bond Prime and Hi-Q, and with Prime now destroyed, the process completed itself in Hi-Q's body, and the two minds and souls became one. Hi-Q's biomechanical body was stripped down and reconstructed by the [[Last Autobot]], creating a brand new Optimus Prime.

===="Another Time and Place" text story ([[retcon]]ned)====

====Generation 2====
[[image:Optimusprime-g2.jpg|right|thumb|150px|Apparently going G2 makes you blockier.]]

Prime was plagued by visions of the [[Swarm]] - a destructive by-product of Transformer reproduction - entering into an alliance with Megatron against it and the forces of the second-generation [[Cybertronian]]s led by [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]]. Prime's body was destroyed yet again when he confronted the Swarm, but upon releasing the energy of the Matrix into it, purifying it, Prime was reborn by the repentant creature. At the end of the battle, Prime’s dream of reuniting the two races of Transformers into a single force for good seemed to be a possibility when the [[Autobot]]s and [[Decepticon]]s fought side by side against a common foe.

===Animated continuity===

====Generation 1 cartoon====

:''Voice actors:'' [[Peter Cullen]] (US), [[Tesshō Genda]] (Japan), [[Francis Lax]] (France)<br>

[[Image:Orionpax.jpg|left|thumb| Pre-Prime Orion Pax and his girlfriend Pre-Elita Ariel without a Pre-Magnus Dion.]]

Optimus Prime began his life as a robot named '''Orion Pax''', a simple dock worker during the Golden Age of Cybertron nine million years ago, with a girlfriend named [[Ariel]], and a best friend named [[Dion]]. At the time, a new breed of robot had recently appeared on the planet - ones with new robot-mode flight powers that made Orion idolize them. Unfortunately for Orion, when [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], the leader of these robots, approached him with inquiries about using one of the dock warehouses, Orion fell for the deception and he and Ariel were fatally wounded when Megatron and his forces then attacked in order to claim the energy stored there. Searching for someone to help them, the time-displaced [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] took Orion and Ariel to the ancient Autobot [[Alpha Trion]], who used them as the first subjects for the new reconstruction process he had developed - rebuilding the frail Autobot frames into battle-hardy configurations. With this reconstruction, Orion Pax became Optimus Prime, the first of the Autobot warriors, who took the mantle of leadership as the civil war against Megatron and Decepticons erupted, while Ariel was rebuilt into [[Elita One (G1)|Elita One]], the commander of the Autobot resistance on Cybertron.

[[Image:Optimusmtmtep1.jpg|thumb|right|Turn INTO the skid.]]

As leader of the Autobots, Prime headed up the Autobots' mission to search out new worlds with new sources of energy to revitalise the depleted Cybertron. However, shortly after its launch, the [[Ark (G1)|Autobots' craft]] was attacked by the [[Nemesis|Decepticon space cruiser]] and boarded by Megatron and the Decepticons. In the ensuing struggle, the g-forces of a nearby planet pulled both crafts down, and the Autobots' ship crashed into a volcano, thrusting all the occupants of the ship into emergency stasis. Four million years later, in the Earth year 1984 C.E., a volcanic eruption jarred the ship's computer, [[Teletraan I]] back to life, and it reactivated the Decepticons, programming them with new Earth-based disguise modes. As a petty parting gesture, [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] fired upon the Autobot ship, creating a landslide that knocked Prime into the path of the computer's restoration beam, restoring him to life, and beginning the war anew on Earth.

[[Image:Optimal_dunk.JPG|left|thumb|151px|Prime proving Red Bots Can Jump.]]Prime was perpetually at the forefront of the action throughout the early years of the war on Earth, usually confronting Megatron, and, in some rare instances, being forced to team up with him for the greater good (or the lesser evil). He has suffered his fair share of battlefield scrapes, almost meeting his end when his vital [[cosmotron]] component was critically damaged by the Decepticon jets and [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], and suffering a severe - though unfair - defeat when Megatron challenged him to one-on-one comabt while imbued with the different powers of all the Decepticons.

Generally, Prime acting in a commanding role as part of larger battles and event, but played prominent and solo roles in a few, also. In 1985, Megatron created a perfect duplicate of him, leaving the Autobots unable to differentiate between the two until the clone disregarded the safety of their human companion, [[Spike Witwicky]], exposing the deception. {{storylink|Prime Problem}} Later in the same year, Prime's fame and prowess led him to become the target of the demented big-game hunter, [[Lord Chumley]], who sought his head to go along with his other rare trophies. Entering the hunter's estate alone, Prime defeated all the traps and beasts lying in wait and brought Chumley to justice. {{storylink|Prime Target}} The same year also saw Elita One captured by the Decepticons on Cybertron and used to lure Prime there alone; although knowing it was a trap, he ventured in solo and was defeated by the Decepticons and nearly destroyed, until Elita's stasis-field powers froze time long enough for them to escape. Prime was forced to seek out Alpha Trion to save the wounded Elita's life, and in the process, rediscovered his forgotten connection to his creator. {{storylink|The Search for Alpha Trion}} His memorial was also built 20 years before his death. Prime was often depicted in the animation as being [[Scale|much larger than he would be in reality]] when in robot mode.

====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformer'' manga (Japan-only)====

During an energy raid on [[Tokyo]], Optimus Prime and the Autobots met up with a young Japanese boy named [[Kenji]], whose inventive mind helped them to defeat [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]]. As a token of thanks, Optimus Prime granted Kenji a special communications helmet and made him an official Autobot ally.

While showing Kenji around the Autobots' new Tokyo base, Optimus Prime lamented that he wished his "kid brother" [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] would hurry up and arrive with his trailer upgrade. As he pondered the where-abouts of his sibling, the Decepticons attacked Yokohama. The Autobots hurried to the scene only to encounter an over-powered Megatron in his newest form: the [[Super Megatron Gun]]. The Autobots' defeat seemed assured until Magnus arrived with Prime's trailer upgrade, the [[Scramble Power Buster]]. The Scramble Power Buster trumped the might of the Super Megatron Gun, leaving Prime and Magnus to vanquish the Decepticon forces with their combined attack: the Double Cross Kick (basically, them jump-kicking the Decepticons in the spine at the same time).

====''Scramble City'' (Japan-only)====

After the location of the top-secret [[Autobot City]] [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] was discovered by [[Ratbat]], Megatron unleashed a horde of Decepticon [[combiner]]s to attack the mammoth Autobot before it could be activated. Optimus Prime lead a counter-offensive of Autobot combiners to the front lines. Things looked grim, as the Decepticon combiners thrashed the Autobots. As a last resort, [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] activated Metroplex, who arrived in time to fight off the Decepticons. However, Megatron unleashed his trump card, the Decepticon City: [[Trypticon]].

====''Robot Masters'' (Japan-only)====
:''Voice actor: ? (Japan)''

Selecting a time when the original Megatron was known to have gone missing, [[Megatron (BW)|Beast Megatron]] traveled back in time via the [[Blasty Zone]] to sieze Decepticon leadership and gather precious [[solitarium]]. Beast Megatron's forces were strong, though Optimus Prime managed to fend off the villains when several time-displaced Autobots and Maximals ([[Star Saber (G1)|Star Saber]], [[Victory Leo]], [[Lio Convoy]] and [[Optimus Primal]]) came to his aid.

Beast Megatron would not relent, and eventually discovered a massive deposit of solitarium beneath [[New York City]]. The Decepticons razed the city in search of the element until Prime and his forces arrived to save the day, this time aided by the enigmatic Autobot [[Reverse Convoy]]. Things were going smoothly until Reverse Convoy revealed himself to actually be the ''real'' Megatron in disguise. Now going by the name Rebirth Megatron, Prime's nemesis teamed with Beast Megatron to conquer their mutual foes. Prime managed to defeat the duo by combining his power with Lio Convoy's and Optimus Primal's.

====''Binaltech'' (Japan-only)====
While Optimus Prime was fighting the Decepticon on Cybertron, he charged [[Ultra Magnus]] to protect the earth and to lead the construction of the new Autobot city. When the crisis annouced by Ravage arrived, he went with Ultra Magnus on a last chance mission to stop Unicron, while sending [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] into the past to restore the timeline so that recent events instigated by Ravage would not happen.

====''Transformers The Movie''====

[[Image:Optimusg1passingthematrix.jpg|thumb|left|Oh, hey, I have this in me now, by the way.]]

Over the course of the next twenty years, the [[Decepticon]]s succeeded in seizing control of all of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], forcing the Autobots to operate from their new city on Earth, and from two bases on Cybertron's moons. In the Earth year 2005 C.E., Prime was stationed on [[Moonbase One]], and dispatched troops to Earth to acquire energy for an upcoming strike on Cybertron. The Decepticons, however, got wind of the plan and attacked the shuttle, killing its occupants. Their scheme was to use the shuttle to stage a surprise attack on Autobot City; an attack which almost suceeded if not for a distress call which summoned Prime and support troops to Earth.

Optimus Prime foresaw that his final battle with his arch-nemesis was looming, deciding that the Decepticons must be stopped, no matter the cost. Bravely, he plowed through the remaining Decepticon ranks, punishing them for every Autobot they felled overnight, before confronting Megatron. In the ensuing battle with Megatron, Optimus Prime sustained fatal injuries, but not before turning the tide of battle and forcing the Decepticon to flee. Despite the efforts of [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], Optimus Prime died. The [[Matrix of Leadership]], and with it leadership of the Autobots, fell into the hands of [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], and subsequently to [[Hot Rod|Rodimus Prime]]. {{Storylink|Transformers: The Movie}}

====''Kiss Players'' (Japan-only)====
''Note: [[Kiss Players]] is set in 2006 and 2007, in the first part of the 4-year gap between Transformers the Movie and Season 3 created by the latter being entitled ''Transformers 2010'' in Japan.
=====Radio play=====
[[Image:Illust.jpg|left|thumb|150px|See? Melissa's just bein' nice.]]

In the year 1985, as Optimus Prime prepared to face his enemy [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] atop the [[Sherman Dam]], [[Fortress Maximus|Brave Maximus]] Fortress materialized nearby with an unusual crew on board. Undetected by the Autobot leader, a pop singer sextet of humans and Transformers had arrived from more than 20 years in the future, brought there by the mysterious [[Sparkbot]]s. When the [[Kiss Player]] [[Marissa Faireborn]] kissed the unsuspecting Prime, a fragment of the [[Allspark]] emerged from his chest. With their prize secured, the time travelers returned to the far future of 2007.

Years later, Prime would save the life of a young Marissa, leading to the human girl's lifelong [[wikipedia:Elektra_complex|crush]] on the mechanoid. After the Autobot leader was killed in the battle of Autobot City, Marissa rescued Optimus Prime's carcass from the clutches of the [[Earth Defense Command]] and he was resurrected in Japan in the form of a Dodge Ram SR-10. In addition to his ion blaster, he carries a weapon that he originally named the High Frequency Blade: a sword that Prime created from Marissa's beloved surfboard. Marissa hated the name, however, and renamed it the "Surf Blade". Naturally, Prime agreed to this, because really, what're you gonna do? Women, am I right, fellas?

[[Image:Marissa_convoy_stack.jpg|right|thumb|150px|She prefers the Japanese version's [[For safety reasons|''longer stacks''.]]]] Now Prime and Marissa spend their days hiding from the E.D.C. and their nights hanging out at the beach. He longs for the day when he can see her bathing in the sun, rather than the moonlight, although he thinks all that ice cream she's eating is making her a little fat.

One night while Marissa was surfing, she had a squid latch onto her. Then a [[Legion]] that had infused itself with both an octopus and shipwreck attacked her. With tentacles. Prime fought it off and saved Marissa, but the E.D.C. [[Autrooper]]s were soon dispatched to the scene, and the two had to beat a hasty retreat.

Marissa enjoys washing Prime, especially his... um... stick shift and the rim of his gas tank. Which makes Prime shudder and moan.

Eww.

''('''Note''': This is all actually part of the official fiction. Really.)''
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=====Manga=====

Following his death in America, Optimus Prime's body was covertly flown to Japan by the E.D.C. Soon thereafter, as the organization transported the robotic corpse by truck, the convoy was ambushed by a group of young female resistance commandos. Believing that they had secured Prime's body, the commandos were taken by surprise and slaughtered by the [[Ne squad]] [[Kiss Player]] [[Ringo]] and her [[Autrooper]] partner, who burst out of the torso of the false Prime.

Marissa Faireborn, the remaining member of the squad, discovered that the true body was being transported within Prime's nearby cargo trailer. Slicing the trailer open, she was too late to prevent an E.D.C. Autrooper from partially fusing with Prime. Reflecting on her childhood memories of playing with the kindly Autobot leader, Marissa lovingly kissed his faceplate. In an explosion of energy that destroyed the trailer, the two fused and Prime was converted into his new, living body.

''('''Note''': The fake Prime corpse was represented in art by the Masterpiece Convoy toy with an E.D.C. logo attached over its Autobot symbol. The real Optimus Prime was illustrated as the original toy.)''

====''Season 3/2010''====

[[Image:Optimusg1zombie.jpg|right|thumb|WHERE IS SARAH CONNOR.]]
Prime's body was entombed in a massive deep-space mausoleum with the many other fallen Autobots, but his corpse was desecrated by the [[Quintessons]] in 2006(2010 if you go by Japan's fiction), when they reanimated it as part of an attempt to destroy the Autobots by using Prime to lure their space fleet into a trap. However, the Matrix was able to purify Prime of the Quintesson influence, and he got the other Autobots clear while he piloted his flagship into the Quintessons' detonator, triggering the explosion of a nearby sun.

Prime was believed to have been destroyed in the explosion, but in reality, before the flagship impacted with the detonator, his body was recovered from the craft by two human scientists, [[Jessica Morgan]] and [[Dr. Gregory Swafford]]. However, as their ship departed, it was coated in solar spores released by the explosion of the sun. Jessica's father, [[Dr. Mark Morgan]], loathed the Autobots, and his hatred only grew when an attempt by the Decepticons to steal a heat-resistant alloy he had developed resulted in Jessica being paralyzed. Swafford and Morgan reconstructed Optimus Prime's body in an attempt to use it as a delivery system for the spores, which induced hatred and madness, in order to destroy the Transformers.

However, when they could not reanimate him, they used his body as a lure instead, bringing the Autobots to their lab, where they were infected. As this "[[Hate Plague]]" proceeded to spread across the galaxy, [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] retrieved a Quintesson, who fully restored Optimus Prime to life. Coating himself in Morgan's heat-resistant alloy, Prime reclaimed the Matrix from Rodimus and unleashed its concentrated wisdom to destroy the Hate Plague.

''('''Note''': There is a considerable continuity error concerning zombie Optimus. At the end of "[[Dark Awakening]]", Optimus is in pretty rough shape (as the screen shot shows), missing an arm, part of his face, a sizable portion of his shoulder, covered with cosmetic damage, etc. He is also apparently fully conscious as he flies the ship into the Quintesson trap as it is being ripped apart by laser fire. However, when he is discovered in "[[The Return of Optimus Prime Part 1]]", he's both whole and shining new, and apparently comatose. There is no hint whatsoever of the battle that took place only minutes previous, no Quintesson laser-fire piercing Prime's pristine ship. Plus, the sun in question is about to go nova naturally rather than by Quintesson design, which is why Morgan and Swafford were there in the first place.)''

====''Rebirth'' (America-only)====

In 2007, Prime began to suffer visions following the release of the Matrix's energy, which foretold a great transformation for Cybertron. Events began with the Decepticons' theft of the key to the [[Plasma Energy Chamber]], which forced Prime to consult Alpha Trion within [[Vector Sigma]], learning that the mega-computer had orchestrated events in order to restore Cybertron's Golden Age. When the Plasma Energy Chamber was opened and threatened to drive Earth's Sun supernova, [[Spike Witwicky]] and the other organic [[Nebulan]]s who had become involved in the conflict as a result of these events were able to drain off the excess solar energy and revitalize Cybertron.

====''Headmasters'' (Japan-only)====

''(The Headmasters anime ignores the events of the 3-part "The Rebirth" story arc and picks up a year after "The Return of Optimus Prime", in 2011.)''

One year after Prime's resurrection, the Autobots had entered into an even closer relationship with Earth and began the colonization of other worlds, the first of which was the planet Athenia, where Optimus Prime was stationed. It soon became apparent, however, that when Prime had released the energy of the Matrix to cure the Hate Plague, the consequences were more far-reaching than he had anticipated - without the energy of the Matrix to act as a balancing factor, [[Vector Sigma]] had become destabilized, and the Decepticons suddenly returned to exploit this, assaulting Cybertron in order to seize control of the mega-computer. Prime took a squad of troops to aid in the battle on the planet, and when the arrival of the Autobot [[Headmaster]]s tipped the battle in their favor, Prime broke off from the main attack and headed down into the depths of the planet, planning on stabilizing Vector Sigma at any cost.

Guided through the dangers of the planet's catacombs by the spirit of Alpha Trion while the other Autobots searched for the Matrix on Earth, Prime eventually arrived at the computer, only to find his way barred by [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] and [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]]. Hot Rod then arrived with the Matrix, with which Alpha Trion merged, re-energizing it and transforming Hot Rod back into Rodimus Prime; for the first time, the two Primes fought side-by-side and defeated Galvatron.

Before Rodimus could implement the Matrix to stabilize Vector Sigma, however, Optimus Prime sacrificed himself to perform the task, merging with the computer and restoring its balance to save the planet.

====''Battlestars: Return of Convoy'' (Japan-only)====
[[Image:StarConvoyBoxArt1.jpg|right|100px|thumb|"Some aliens are alright; Star Convoy, E.T. ...but usually they just turn out to be some kind of big lizard!"]]

In a sinister plot to destroy the Autobots, [[Dark Nova]] had Optimus Prime's [[spark|sparkless]] body revived as the evil [[False Convoy]]. False Convoy battled the Autobots but was defeated. Using the power of the [[Zodiac|the Zodiac]], Optimus Prime was brought back online and upgraded into '''Star Convoy'''. He was then reunited with [[Hot Rod (G1)#Battlestars: Return of Convoy (Japan-only)|Hot Rod]], who became his [[Micromaster]] partner.

With the likes of [[Sky Garry]], [[Grandus]] and [[Sixliner]], Star Convoy did battle with the Decepticons and Dark Nova's hoard of [[Great Galaman]] drone warriors. Getting nowhere fast, Dark Nova then resurrected [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] (last seen buried in ice) as [[Megatron (G1)#Battlestars: Return of Convoy (Japan-only)|Super Megatron]] to counter Star Convoy. This didn't work all that well, and after defeating Super Megatron, his foe was resurrected again by Dark Nova as [[Megatron (G1)#Battlestars: Return of Convoy (Japan-only)|Ultra Megatron]]. After disposing of him yet again, Dark Nova merged with Ultra Megatron into [[Dark Nova|Star Giant]].

Star Giant proved to be virtually indestructible from the outside until Star Convoy got the bright idea of giving the villain indigestion. Holding Star Giant's massive mouth open, he ordered Sky Garry and [[Grandus]] to move in. After all 3 were swallowed, they began taking Star Giant down from the inside while simulataneously fighting off his various defensive systems. As soon as the trio escaped from Star Giant's interior, the monster exploded, leaving only his head slightly intact. As it happens, Megatron was housed inside Star Giant's noggin and survived the attack.

====Generation 2 manga (Japan-only)====
[[Image:BattleConvoy.jpg|thumb|left|125px|I hope the bastards fixed my weak stomach problem.]]

After the end of [[Battlestars]], Optimus Prime down-graded back to his original body. Megatron eventually recovered from the Star Giant incident and supposedly turned over a new leaf. Megatron joined with Prime to form the [[Cybertron Alliance]], and things were good for a little while, as Megatron's attempts at peace were genuinely sincere. The alliance ushered in what would be called the Second Generation of the Transformers. However, after human soldiers killed one of his dearest comrades, Megatron adopted a new body and started the war anew.

[[Image:G2PrimeJustice.jpg|thumb|right|SHALOM!]]
To counter Megatron, Optimus Prime upgraded his body into a new Missle Trailer mode. Rallying a new wave of Autobot warriors, Optimus dilligently repelled Megatron and the Decepticons. Megatron eventually wore Optimus down in battle, though, blowing him away with a barrage of devastating attacks. Megatron finally succeeded in delivering a fatal blow to Optimus, shooting him at point blank with his cannon. Prime would have been done for, except that the [[spark|sparks]] of the previous Autobot Supreme Commanders within the [[Matrix of Leadership]] activated the [[Reconfiguration Matrix]] to forge him a new body. Optimus Prime became '''Battle Convoy''' and easily trumped Megatron's power. After a lengthy and costly war, Battle Convoy managed to drive the Decepticon forces to retreat into deep space. Prime was last seen wounded, being aided off the battlefield by his fellow Autobots.
=====E-Hobby=====
Presumingly using his [[Reconfiguration Matrix]] to revert to his original body, Optimus Prime came into possession of two powerful Solar-powered missile launchers created by the Decepticons. The energy consumption of these missiles is so large that it was necessary for Prime to be given a Sunlight-absorbing [[Wikipedia:Black body|Black body]] coating in order for them to operate at full power. It was in this form that Prime rescued Laser Rod Ultra Magnus from [[Galvatron II]].

=====Generation 2: "The Earth is in Danger!"=====

''(Note: this manga special is '''not''' in continuity with the Japanese G2 story pages and minicomics.)''
[[Image: G2Hero.jpg|left|thumb|100px|Good. Good. Just keep looking that way. Yeah.]]
In the year 199X, the Decepticons had learned of a powerful new energy source known as [[forestonite]] which just happened to be located (surprise surprise) on [[Earth]]. Megatron sent his trio of [[Cyberjet]]s to Earth first to draw out the enemy Autobots. The Cyberjets made quick work of [[Electro]] but were soon halted by the appearance of Optimus Prime.

Megatron then entered the fray and fired his Black Hole Burn attack from his fusion cannon, narrowly missing Optimus Prime but vaporizing [[Hooligan]] in the process. Prime fought fiercely but Megatron began to take the upper-hand in battle.

However, Prime was encouraged to keep fighting by the cheers of a human boy named [[Junpei]]. Megatron, surprised at Prime's resiliance, attempted to finish his foe off with his Tornado Axe attack. Prime countered with his Double Wheel-Torque Mega-Ton, which trumped Megatron's attack and injured the Decepticon badly. Megatron teleported back to his ship and left Earth's atmosphere, vowing to return.

Optimus Prime adressed Junpei, asking if the boy was injured. Junpei revealed he was alright but presented concern about the Decepticons returning to Earth. Optimus Prime swore that the Autobots would remain on Earth until the threat of the Decepticons was finished and asked for Junpei's help in making that future a reality.

===Beast Era===

====''Beast Wars''====
[[Image:G1Prime_BWMegs.jpg|right|thumb|You have to get up preeeeetty early in the timestream to beat Optimus Prime!]]
The Beast Wars raged on prehistoric Earth, eventually leading to the discovery of the buried Ark. [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]], following his namesakes instructions in a desperate gambit, decided to attempt to change history by killing Prime, who was still lying in the Ark in [[stasis lock]]. Megatron hoped that this would result in the Decepticons winning the Great War and eventually [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] control of Cybertron. Megatron unleashed a full-power weapon blast at Optimus Prime's face, near-fatally injuring him. {{storylink|The Agenda, Part 3}} However, [[Optimus Primal (BW)|Optimus Primal]] proceeded to take Prime's spark into his body to protect it from surgical trauma while his injuries were repaired. The subsequent power increase caused by Prime's spark's connection to the Matrix mutated Primal into a large, [[Transmetal]] "Optimal Optimus" form. Then, with the repairs complete, Prime's spark was restored, and he briefly activated before sinking back into normal stasis. {{storylink|Optimal Situation}}

Sometime after the Autobots and Decepticons awoke in the 1980s, the original Megatron gained access to one of Earth's ''Voyager'' spacecraft and inscribed a message on the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|disk]] on board. In the event that he lost the War, Megatron left instructions for the descendants of the Decepticons to use [[transwarp]] technology to travel to Prehistoric Earth, locate the ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'', and change history by killing Optimus Prime. {{storylink|The Agenda, Part 2}}

====''Beast Machines''====

An enormous statue of Optimus Prime, bearing two [[Golden Disk]]s, could be seen on Cybertron in front of the Hall of Archives. The statue was subsequently blown to pieces by the [[Vehicon]] forces. Later, Megatron beamed a hologram of Optimus Prime down to the ruins of [[Iacon]] to confront [[Optimus Primal]]. Primal mistook the hologram for the real thing and shared with it the code for the [[Oracle]]. Megatron quickly revealed his ruse. Primal explained to his Maximals that he knew the image was fake, but he needed the location of the missing [[spark]]s from Megatron's mind.

====''Universe: Primeval Dawn''====
[[Image:Sparkholderprimevaldawn.jpg|right|190px|thumb|Oh, I also have ''this'' in me now, too.]]
The Vok took the Matrix of Leadership from an unconscious Optimus Prime, used it to create [[Primal Prime]], then gave the Matrix to their new creation.

''('''Note''': In the Beast Wars cartoon, Prime's spark was shown to be contained in a Matrix-like vessel. In [[Universe (comic)|Primeval Dawn]], that vessel was shown to be merely a container for his spark, and the actual Matrix was hidden underneath.)''

===Kid Stuff Talking Story Books===
'''Voice actor: Unknown'''

[[Image:KidsPrime1.jpg|left|150px|thumb|And the fluffy kitten played with that yarn, all gosh darn night.]]

Optimus Prime is a "metallic nemesis." Megatron said so.

In "[[The Great Car Rally]]", a 2-part race was being held with a massive supply of oil and gasoline as the prize. The Decepticons wanted it badly, but so did the Autobots. Megatron entered the race by hiding himself inside a hollowed-out car, but ended up losing to [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]]. Optimus Prime celebrated the Minibot's victory with a gargantuan smile as all the Decepticons starved to death.

===Dreamwave comics continuity===

Optimus Prime started life as '''Optronix''' (Orion to his friends<ref>The [[Keepers Trilogy]] novels set in Dreamwave continuity</ref>), a data archivist. After taking note of a battle in which the Autobot leader [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]] had been defeated by Megatron, he was summoned to the council of elders and informed that the Matrix had chosen him to be the next leader of the Autobots. He received the Matrix of Leadership shortly thereafter, gaining a powerful new body in the process, and almost arranged for the Autobot evacuation of Cybertron, intending to leave the Decepticons to their own devices, until a battle with Megatron beneath the planet's surface, accompanied by visions from the Matrix, stirred him on to fight for the safety of his homeworld. Some time into his role as leader, Prime disappeared in a [[space bridge]] explosion along with Megatron, but returned some time later, having spent a period of time on [[Quintessa]].

[[Image:Optronix_optimus.jpg|thumb|right|What? OPTRONIX is evolving!]]

Following the awakening of the Transformers on Earth, the Autobots allied with humankind and eventually defeated the Decepticons at the turn of the century. They planned to return to Cybertron aboard the newly constructed "[[Ark_II|Ark II]]," but the ship was destroyed as part of a military conspiracy to take control of the Transformers. However, a terrorist organization run by the enigmatic [[Lazarus]] was able to seize control of several of the Transformers that fell back to Earth, while the U.S. military located Prime's body. Before his departure, Prime had entrusted a small portion of the Matrix to [[Spike Witwicky]], who was forced by the product chief, General [[Robert Hallo]], to use it to reactivate Prime. Functional again, Prime used the Matrix to reactivate more of his fallen comrades, and then faced off against Megatron in [[San Francisco]].

Following this, Prime began to experience subconscious urgings, leading both the Autobots and the Decepticons to the Arctic Circle, where Shockwave arrived to greet them - and arrest them as war criminals. Shockwave had succeeded in ending the war on Cybertron, but Prime soon fell in with a rebel Autobot group that had discovered Shockwave had a greater agenda. Rallying Autobots across Cybertron to the cause, Prime faced Shockwave in battle but was defeated and had the Matrix ripped from him and used to activate Vector Sigma. Before Shockwave could make full use of the mega-computer's data, however, [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] arrived and bested him. The injuries Prime took in this conflicted necessitated a prolonged restoration period in stasis.

=== IDW comics continuity ===
[[Image:IDWBeforeEarth_Prime.jpg|left|thumb|150px|I'll... ''I'll what, I'll what?!'']]

Optimus Prime commands the Autobot armed forces spread across the galaxy from the [[Autobot Orbital Command Hub]]. He was directly involved in the cataclysm ([[IDW timeline|just under 450 years ago]]) that reduced Cybertron to a dead husk, fighting alongside Megatron in a futile attempt to stop [[Thunderwing_(G1)|Thunderwing]]'s rampage.

[[Image:IDWOptimus.jpg|right|thumb|150px|Freedom is the right of all sentient and heavily armed beings.]]

In the present, after the Autobot science vessel ''[[Calabi-Yau]]'' sends a distress signal from above [[Thunderhead Pass]], he ordered the [[Wreckers]] to withdraw from [[Varas_Centralus|Varas Centralus]] and meet him on Cybertron. {{Storylink|Stormbringer, Part 2}} Thunderwing had been restored by [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] and his followers, and though the Wreckers made short work of them, the real fight would be met with Thunderwing. After the Wreckers, Predacons and Centurion drones were unable to destroy the monster, Prime took to the field, firing massive amounts of energy at Thunderwing, forcing it to exhaust its last reserves of [[Ultra Energon]] and, ultimately, its life. {{storylink|Stormbringer, Part 4}}
[[Image:IDWPrime_Earth.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Don't crush the cameraman!]]
Information uncovered in Bludgeon's files about the mysterious new form of Energon prompted Prime to divert his spacecraft to Earth and call [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] in to assist him.{{storylink|Spotlight Nightbeat}}. Shortly after arrival - having undergone alteration so that he can disguise himself as an Earth truck {{Storylink|Infiltration, Part 6}} - he slowly began to realize how unusual the situation Prowl's unit had found itself in was. Not only had the Decepticons broken their own infiltration protocols over what Starscream had dubbed Ore-13, but after attempting to recover what appeared to be Sunstreaker's remains{{Storylink|Escalation, Issue 2}}, it was also evident that some of the planet's native sentients - humans - posed a threat possibly equal to that of their old enemies.

Optimus Prime, now fully filled in on Earth's happenings, decided that they needed reinforcements. He called [[Nightbeat]], [[Hot Rod]], and [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]] to come when they could. When Prowl pointed out that Megatron, in his new gun-based Earth mode, was in the breakaway Soviet state of Brasnya stirring up trouble, Prime ordered them into action.

[[Blitzwing]] almost got the drop on Prime, but Roller was right behind him, and executed him with one single shot. Megatron returned to his full-size robot mode and disagreed with the quality of Prime's tea and crumpets. At last, the two rivals were going to go at it.

The fight, at first, went well, with Prime blowing Megatron's fusion blaster clean off. Megatron, however, tireless thanks to Ore-13, prevailed, almost beating Prime into stasis lock.{{storylink|Escalation, Issue 5}}

However Prime transfered his consciousness into his trailer, leading Megatron to believe him dead. Realising that "Ore-13" was the same as Ultra Energon, Prime returned to his body in time to save his forces from the relentless Megatron, dealing enough damage to the Decepticon leader to drain his power reserves, just as he did against Thunderwing. The victory was narrow however, leaving Optimus with the daunting task of fending off an increasing enemy force without his last ace in the hole. {{storylink|Escalation, Issue 6}}

This near-death experience had left Prime somewhat unsettled. While his conciousness was in infraspace downloading to his trailer, he sensed a presence of dread - the visage of his long-missing predecessor [[Nova Prime]]. Looking for answers, Optimus Prime left Earth temporarily to seek an audience with [[Omega Supreme]] for answers. Once there, he found out about Nova's beliefs of how Transformers were better than everyone else and should show it, and faced down the rampaging Monstructor, a legacy of Nova's tenure locked away by Omega Supreme. Then he went on to give his "you shouldn't have done that" speech to Omega, hand Monstructor's limbs over to Jetfire's team, and went on to do what comic G1 Primes do best and have angst-ridden introspection about himself and the tarnished legacy of the Prime lineage. {{storylink|Spotlight Optimus Prime}}

===IDW ''[[Hearts of Steel]]'' continuity===
He appears very briefly in the first few pages, in his "Ice Age Wars" body (we only see him in robot mode, but his altmode is a brachiosaurus<ref>[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?s=d5d311674e796c81d010d26ac751389b&showtopic=10074&st=20&p=266183&#entry266183 Allspark forums post] by [[Guido Guidi]], August 15th, 2006</ref>). He spends most of the story in [[stasis lock]].
====IDW ''Hearts of Steel'' Concept Art micro-continuity====
Optimus is depicted as turning into the front half of a fanciful red-and-blue locomotive. The rear half of the locomotive turns into a battle station. Since this altmode has no place in the story, these sketches constitute a [[micro-continuity]] in which Optimus Prime and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] are active in the late 19th century.

==Toys==
See [[Optimus Prime (G1) toys]].

==Trivia==
*According to [[Bob Budiansky]], longtime comics writer [[Denny O'Neil]] named Optimus Prime prior to Budiansky being brought on to the ''Transformers'' project.

[[image:Optimusprime-mom.jpg|125px|right|thumb|Prime's mom knows how to write in cursive.]]

*Aside from occasionally having Alpha Trion as a father figure, Optimus Prime may have a mother! In an advertisement for [[Pepsi Convoy]] that shows him in a refrigerator (along with [[Destron Pizza]]), a note attached to a nearby piece of tupperware reads:

:''Dear Convoy''
:''Warm it before you eat''
:''Mom''

:Although the ad itself is for Pepsi Convoy, he is a separate character, and it can be assumed that the note was left for Convoy/Optimus Prime himself.

* The first wave of Dreamwave posters in 2001 identified Optimus Prime as [http://www.comicden.com/merch/posters.htm Captimus Primus], which is tantalizingly close to making some sort of sense.

* [[Powermaster]] Optimus Prime makes a cameo appearance in the ''Scrubs'' episode "His Story III". During the episode, J.D. and Turk paint a mural of Optimus and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] battling in the baby's nursery. Carla objects, and asks if Optimus is intentionally firing his blast into the crib, referring to him as "the big ugly one." Big mistake.

==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/OptimusPrime/optimusprime.htm Optimus Prime on TFU.info]
* [http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Optimus_Prime Optimus Prime's Universe profile at NTFA.net]
* [http://www.toybin.org/search.php?q=1984+Autobot+Optimus+Prime ToyBin Optimus Prime Toy gallery]

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Meantime (Movie)

2007-09-01T14:42:56Z

70.190.251.10: /* Trivia */

:''Meantime is a [[Decepticon]] [[Real Gear Robot]] from the [[Movie (franchise)|live-action movie]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Meantime_robot.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Za Wārudo! Toki yo Tomare. WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!]]

'''Meantime''' is one of many small robots who was once a normal machine brought to life by the power of the [[All Spark]]. Gifted with incredible time-based powers, and cursed with the petty humor to never use them to their fullest. Not only can he slow time around him, but also speed it up and even stop it...and selectively use this on other things too! He'd be almost invaluable to the Decepticons...if he chose to use his powers for something OTHER than making humans get into accidents, then "rewinding" time to watch them do it again.

{{quote|Time to Waste|Meantime's packaging tagline}}

: ''French name'': '''Transfo-Temps'''<br>
:''Spanish name'': '''Transfo-Tiempo'''

==Toys==
===Transformers (2007) ===
* '''Meantime''' (Real Gear Robots, 2007)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''MD-16'''

[[Image:Meantime_alt.jpg|thumb|left|150px|"Transformers into a battle station! A galactic shuttle! A cosmic tank!"]]

:Meantime transforms into a (non-functional) digital wristwatch of a made-up model. Like all [[Real_Gear_Robots|Real Gear Robots]] toys, his robot mode is apparently at 1:1 scale. Sculpted on his left wrist, is a tiny version of himself as a watch. Meantime's display reads the time of 5:17 and 40 seconds, with a date of Wednesday, January 2nd. The display face flips around to display the time properly as a watch, and then again to align for robot mode. He has an Auto-Morph feature as well: Pulling his legs down makes his head and shoulders rise as part of the transformation. You'll need the tiny wrists of a little girl to pull off wearing him in watch mode, without cutting off all the circulation to your hand.

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==Trivia ==
* The next time January 2nd falls on a Wednesday, is 2008. This means your Meantime figure will act as a functional watch, for one second, roughly every six years.

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Meantime (Movie)

2007-08-31T23:32:41Z

70.190.251.10: /* Transformers */

:''Meantime is a [[Decepticon]] [[Real Gear Robot]] from the [[Movie (franchise)|live-action movie]] [[continuity family]].''

{{quote|Time to Waste|Meantime's packaging tagline}}

'''Meantime''' is one of many small robots who was once a normal machine brought to life by the power of the [[All Spark]]. Gifted with incredible time-based powers, and cursed with the petty humor to never use them to their fullest. Not only can he slow time around him, but also speed it up and even stop it...and selectively use this on other things too! He'd be almost invaluable to the Decepticons...if he chose to use his powers for something OTHER than making humans get into accidents, then "rewinding" time to watch them do it again.

: ''French name'': '''Transfo-Temps'''<br>
:''Spanish name'': '''Transfo-Tiempo'''

==Toys==
===Transformers===
*'''Meantime''' (Real Gear Robots, 2007)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''MD-???'''

: Meantime transforms into a (non-functional) digital wristwatch of a made-up model. Like all [[Real Gear Robots]] toys, his robot mode is apparently at 1:1 scale. His left wrist has a sculpted watch. Meantime's display reads the time of 5:17. The display face flips around to display the time properly as a watch, and then again for robot mode. He has an Auto-Morph feature as well: Pulling his legs down makes his head and shoulders rise as part of the transformation. You'll need the tiny wrists of a little girl to wear him in watch mode, without cutting off all circulation to your hand.

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High Score 100

2007-08-31T22:47:50Z

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:''High Score 100 is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Movie (franchise)|live-action movie]] [[continuity family]].''

There are some who say [[Power Up VT6|video games]] are evil. But for '''High Score 100''', they're more than just supposed brain-rotting fun things. They're an untapped teacher. Learning second hand from the greatest fighters and soldiers, High Score 100 watches patiently, learning the skills his masters will teach him. Rigorous repeat quarter-circles and other motions have allowed him to use martial arts skill and combat techniques that other Transformers can only dream about, such as lightning-fast kicks, precision sniping, and mastery of countless weapons (both melee and ranged). [[Decepticons]] had better watch out, because this Autobot isn't just tough. He's down-right fierce.

''French name'': '''Marco-Points 100'''

''Spanish name'': '''Marca-Puntos 100'''

==Toys==
===Transformers===
*'''High Score 100''' (Real Gear Robots, 2007)

: High Score 100 transforms into a (non-functional) wireless video game console controller of made-up model. Like all [[Real Gear Robots]] toys, his robot mode is supposedly at 1:1 scale. Several companies have produced actual working controllers at a scale only slightly larger (though considerably thicker), but High Score 100's lack of a pair of analog triggers beneath his shoulder buttons means he is incompatible with the [[Xbox 360 robot|Xbox 360]].High Score is one of the only Real Gear Robots to contain an Automorph gimick. When you press down the switch on his back, his head raises, and shoulder pads flip into place.

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Talk:SOCCENT Forward Operations Base

2007-08-01T14:37:10Z

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Hey, for what it's worth, the film (if I remember right) mentioned survivors BEFORE Lennox and co reported in. Think it's worth mentioning thee possibility of other survivors or not?

:Never happened. All they said was something along the lines of being unsure if there were any survivors or not. Sorta like, they haven't found any or been contacted, but they're hopeful. Even excluding that it happens off screen, the fact that they're so surprised and relived to hear about Lennox and the others (Keller: "Survivors?!") shows they've had no contact with anyone else.

Huh.
Almost positive some survivors were mentioned, but, hey, I only saw it once.
(I know, I should be shot)

:Keller said that as far as they know, there are no survivors. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:32, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks.
Looks like I misremembered. Glad I asked before editing.

=="Did not suffer an attack..."==
I put that there intentionally, in the sense that the movie has been played as a cover-up plot by Sector 7. Originally many of the movie pages were written similarly, albeit more obviously. It seems they have been changed, so I concede the edit. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 12:51, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
:You know, I thought you might be going for something like that, but I wasn't sure. I only changed it because it said "did not suffered," so I figured it was a mix of different edits or something. It was just the odd grammar I was trying to edit. -annonymous user<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

SOCCENT Forward Operations Base

2007-08-01T01:42:42Z

70.190.251.10: How did that survive so many edits?

'''SOCCENT Forward Operations Base''' is a [[United States Military]] base located in [[Qatar]], under the command of [[Colonel Sharp]] and subordinate of the US Central Command (USCENTCOM). As a forward base for special operations, it is home to soldiers belonging to various spec-ops military branches, such as the US Army Rangers, Green Berets, Delta Force, Marine Corps, US Navy SEALS and pilots of the US Air Force. The base is equipped with a variety of hardware including tanks, armored vehicles, helicopters, jets, aeroplanes and inflatable toys.

The base suffered an unfortunate encounter with a [[Decepticon|hostile alien being]].

==Fiction==
===Transformers (2007)===
On the same evening that [[William Lennox|Captain William Lennox]] and his team of Rangers return from a mission behind enemy lines, a [[Blackout (Movie)|mysterious MH-53 Pave Low helicopter]] flies into the airspace of SOCCENT Qatar. Col. Sharp orders the unknown bird to Squawk Ident (identify itself) and leave his airspace. When the helicopter does not respond nor complies with the orders to turn back, Sharp dispatches two F-22 Raptors to intercept and escort the helicopter to the base ordering the helicopter to follow or deadly force would be used.

When they get within range, one of the Raptor pilot identifies the helicopter as designation 4500X on its tail, which was a confirmed casualty a few months prior. The Raptors escort the Pave Low in, allowing the bogey to land on deck at the base as soldiers immediately form a security perimeter around it. When radar crew in Operations report that the helicopter is jamming their radar, the power begins to cut out. Col. Sharp attempts radio communications again, ordering the Pave Low pilot to power down and have his crew step out or be killed.

The Pave Low... stopped its main rotor, but [[Transformation|what followed]] was not quite what Sharp had in mind.

The giant weapons platform killed soldiers attempting to flee before it before unleashing a [[Electromagnetic pulse]] that kills the rest and severely damaged the air control tower. Shrugging weapons fire directed at it, the robot tossed aside tanks and aircraft with ease while destroying whatever was in its way. Locating the main computer server in Operations, the weapon began hacking the US Military intranet, achieving record download speeds as it assimilated terabytes of classified information before Colonel Sharp physically severed the core's network hardlines with a fire axe.

With its primarily objective a failure, the giant robot proceeded to destroy what remained of the base.

The next day, in an emergency session at the [[Pentagon]] in the [[Washington, D.C.]], Secretary of Defense [[John Keller]] personally heads the investigation into the base attack. As of the opening brief to the case, there was no evidence of survivors. {{Storylink|Transformers (2007)}}

==Trivia==
* [[Wikipedia:Holloman_Air_Force_Base|Holloman Air Force Base]] in New Mexico served as the primary shooting location for the SOCCENT Qatar base.

==External links==
*[http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?storyID=123021221 Official US Air Force news article on Holloman AFB's role in the movie.]

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Transformers Animated (franchise)

2007-07-29T01:29:20Z

70.190.251.10: /* Toyline */

[[Image:Transformersanimated franchise logo.png|right|250px]]
[[Image:TransformersAnimatedPoster.jpg|right|thumb|250px|"When there's trouble you know who to call..."]]

'''Transformers Animated''' is the next television-supported Transformers franchise, due to start in the January of 2008 with a 3-episode mini-movie and continue on to a full 13 episode season.

The cartoon is produced by [[Cartoon Network]], scripted in the United States, with character and background designs by the crews behind shows like ''Teen Titans'' and ''Ben10'', while animation is being provided by Japanese studio [[Mook]].

Inital (over)reaction to a single image of the very different new art style was fairly negative. The screaming began that (like many shows before it) this had [[Ruined FOREVER|ruined Transformers forever]]. Hasbro's showcase at the 2007 [[Botcon]] caused something of a turn around, with lots more images and much new info leading to a much more positive, even enthusiastic attitude being taken by many fans.

==Series details==
The series will eschew the ever-continuing space opera storylines of the past few anime to return to the episodic approach of Beast Wars; each episode will be a stand alone story but with an overall story arc that stretches through the whole season. The focus is being put firmly on characterization, dynamic action, and humor.

The episodes will center not only on the war between the Autobots and the Decepticons, but also on the Autobots' interactions with many of Detroit's human supervillain denizens, including a [[Angry Archer|maladjusted marksman]], a guy who can spit acid, and a guy named [[Prometheus]] who looks really good in a pimp suit. The idea is to give the Autobots "everyday" threats to handle so that when the Decepticons show up it's a major deal, requiring multiple Autobots working together to handle even a ''single'' Decepticon. Decepticon manipulation however will likely motivate some of the human adversaries.

Season 2 is already in the works and seasons 3 and 4 are quite possible.

==Cast==
===Autobots===
*[[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] ([[David Kaye]])
*[[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] ([[Bumper Robinson]])
*[[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] ([[Corey Burton]])
*[[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] ([[Bill Fagerbakke]])
*[[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] ([[Jeff Bennett]])
*[[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]] ([[Jeff Bennett]])
*[[Jazz (Animated)|Jazz]] ([[Phil LaMarr]])
*[[Arcee (Animated)|Arcee]] ([[Susan Blu]])
*[[Grimlock (Animated)|Grimlock]] ([[David Kaye]])
*[[Blurr (Animated)|Blurr]] ([[John Moschitta]])
*[[Wreck-Gar (Animated)|Wreck-Gar]] ([["Weird Al" Yankovic]])
*[[Swoop (Animated)|Swoop]]
*[[Slag (Animated)|Slag]]
===Decepticons===
*[[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]] ([[Corey Burton]])
*[[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]] ([[Tom Kenny]])
*[[Shockwave (Animated)|Shockwave]] ([[Corey Burton]])
*[[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]] ([[Cree Summer]])
*[[Blitzwing (Animated)|Blitzwing]] ([[Corey Burton]])
*[[Lugnut]] ([[David Kaye]])

===Humans===
*[[Sari Sumdac]] ([[Tara Strong]])
*[[Isaac Sumdac]] ([[Tom Kenny]])
*[[Captain Fanzone|Capt. Fanzone]]
*[[Angry Archer]]
*[[Nanosec]]

==Toyline==

First previewed July 1, 2007, in Hasbro's Future Products panel at [[Botcon]].

The Transformers: Animated toy line merges the more fluid, expressive design style of the cartoon with extremely poseable robot forms (to a degree even Hasbro seemed pleasantly surprised by). Unlike the franchises immediately before it, there is no overarcing, line-wide gimmick such as [[Mini-Con|Mini-Cons]] or [[Cyber Planet Key|Cyber Planet Keys]]; rather, transforming IS the gimmick, and toys will have other special features that are unique and appropriate to the character they depict. While the designs originated with Hasbro and the Cartoon Network team, [[TakaraTomy]] is once again stepping up to the plate to engineer the toys.

The toy line is currently scheduled to debut in March 2008 with a special "battle pack" featuring multiple figures. The full line will presumably bow sometime a few months later.

==External links==
* [http://enewsi.com/news.php?catid=194&itemid=11280 Transformers animated press release]
* [http://tv.ign.com/articles/801/801348p1.html Exclusive Transformers Animated Producer Interview]

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Decoy (G1)

2007-07-28T02:28:04Z

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[[Image:ReflectorDecoy1.jpg |right|200px|thumb|The Autobots will never see this one coming!]]

'''Decoys''' are small, one-piece statuettes of Transformers made from molded rubber, good for erasing pencil marks, <strike>chewing</strike>, and fooling extremely stupid enemies.

==Fiction==
===Bonus comic===

In the comic included with each decoy, it is revealed that off screen the [[Decepticon]]s have somehow stolen the [[Creation Matrix]]. [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] (drawn as [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]) developed the decoys to keep the Decepticons occupied while the [[Autobots]] sneak into Decepticon headquarters and retrieve the Matrix.

Upon learning of the ruse, [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] angrily declares that the Decepticons would develop their own set of Decoys, presumably to try the exact same trick, later on. That'll show 'em.

==Toys==
===Takara===
: The Decoys were originally developed as game pieces for Japanese ''Transformers'' board games. They were also sold in larger box sets:

* '''Cybertron Hero Collection 22'''
: ([[Blaster]], [[Bluestreak]], [[Brawn]], [[Grapple]], [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]], [[Hound]], [[Huffer]], [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]], [[Jazz]], [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]], [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]], [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]], [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], [[Skids]], [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]], [[Sunstreaker]], [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]], [[Tracks]], [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]], [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]])

*'''Cybertron Hero Collection 9'''
: ([[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]], [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]], [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]], [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]], [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], [[Slag (G1)|Slag]], [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]], [[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]], [[Trailbreaker]])

*'''Destron Hero Collection 22'''
: ([[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], [[Blitzwing]], [[Bombshell]], [[Bonecrusher (G1)|Bonecrusher]], [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]], [[Hook]], [[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]], [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], [[Long Haul (G1)|Long Haul]], [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], [[Mixmaster]], [[Ravage]], [[Reflector]], [[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]], [[Scrapper]], [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]], [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]], [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]], [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]])

Later, characters from [[The Transformers: The Movie (1986)|the Movie]] and larger pieces representing the "[[Scramble City]]" combiner-teams' super-robot forms were made available as board-game pieces in multiple colors.

===Hasbro===
: In 1987, [[Hasbro]] brought over fifty-two of the pieces as "Decoys", and randomly packaged them with the smaller carded toys of the time: the [[Throttlebot]]s, [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], [[Stunticon]]s, [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]], [[Combaticon]]s, [[Technobot]]s and [[Terrorcon (G1)|Terrorcons]]. The Throttlebots could come with either Autobot or Decepticon pieces, while the combiners only had Decoys of the faction they belonged to.

: There is one notable change in the Hasbro version of the Decoys: the numbers on the back of the pieces are a simple "checklist" number.

: While the Autobot pieces were only available in red, the Decepticon pieces came in both red and purple. The red versions are part of an early run and are ''much'' harder to find as they were ''only'' available early on and ''only'' with the Throttlebots, and therefore are considerably more expensive on the secondary market.

: Though Laserbeak was made available in the Japanese Destron pack, he was supposedly not available as part of the Hasbro offerings, not being listed on the comic's checklist. [[Karl Hartman]] and [[Jon Hartman]] believe he was, though, and if anyone can offer photo proof of Laserbeak on a Hasbro card, contact them!

===Miscellaneous trivia===
*In the promotional comic, Decoys are shown to be accurately colored, and about half the size of the Transformer the represent. It appears they can also fly, or at least fall out of a plane with their arms stretched out, it's unclear which.

*The comic appears to have been written either before the specific events of the movie were known, or to keep from revealing some of the movie's dramatic developments, in a manner similar to the toy commercials of the time.
:Ultra Magnus appears to be the leader of the Autobots, briefing them on the situation, and then deploying them into action. Likewise, [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]] is absent, showing only Hotrod in his place.
:Ratchet is oddly present, despite having died quite horrifically in the movie. This could have been intended to ''be'' Ratchet, with his name changed to the closest medic who ''isn't'' dead at the last minute.
:It's also puzzling how the Decepticons were able to sneak into Autobot Headquarters and "steal" the Matrix (as Rodimus keeps it in his chest) and then choose to guard it with [[Sharkticon|Sharkticons]], showing an unfamiliarity with the terms and characters being used.
:However, [[Fanon|it's entirely possible]] that the matrix was stolen in a manner similar to the episode "[[The Burden Hardest to Bear]]," Rodimus then reverted to Hot Rod and lost his confidence, at which time Ultra Magnus took charge temporarily. Then later that day, Ratchet could have came back from the dead and changed his name to First Aid.

*Despite ''First Aid'''s claims, and the example presented, Hasbro did not release an Ultra Magnus decoy, nor decoys for ''any'' of the movie related characters. It's unclear why post-movie Transformers would only make decoys of pre-movie characters, and why such a ruse would work in that context, save for the sudden shock of a whole bunch of dead guys coming at you.

*Judging from the map shown at the top level strategy meeting in the promotional comic, Decepticon Headquarters is located somewhere in mainland China.

*The concept behind the creation on the Decoys is very similar to Megatron's decoy plan from [[More Than Meets the Eye, Part 3]].

==External links==
*[http://www.x-entertainment.com/articles/0866/large.gif The Decoy comic strip.]

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Hasbro

2007-07-11T17:33:52Z

70.190.251.10: Seriously?

'''Hasbro''' is the owner of the Transformers brand in most markets beyond the Japanese, where it is owned by [[TakaraTomy]].

==History==
Hasbro was originally founded in 1923 as "Hassenfeld Brothers" by brothers Henry and Helal Hassenfeld from Rhode Island. The company originally sold textile remnants, but soon moved into manufacturing pencil boxes and school supplies.

In 1952, Hasbro first rose to fame with the release of a toy named [[Optimash Prime|Mr. Potato Head]], which is still very popular today.

In 1964, Hasbro had an even greater success with the original [[G.I. Joe]] toy designed by Don Levine, which caused Hassenfeld Bros. to grow to be one of the largest toy companies in the USA. In 1968, the company would change its name to "Hasbro Industries, Inc."

Through a series of importing licenses and spin-offs, G.I. Joe would ultimately lead to the [[Microman]] and [[Diaclone]] toylines by Japanese toymaker [[Takara]], which in turn would lead to Hasbro's release of the original Transformers toyline in 1984.

In 1984, Hasbro would also buy out a competing toy company named [[Milton Bradley]] (MB), which whould result in the merged company briefly assuming the name "Hasbro Bradley, Inc." After the merger was completed, the company changed its name into simply "Hasbro, Inc." Milton Bradley's European facilities would also be used to manufacture the initial wave of Transformers toys to be released in Europe before the merger was completed. (See also: [[Generation 1 Europe (toyline)]].)

In 1995, Hasbro transferred control of the Transformers franchise to its [[Kenner]] subsidiary, then phased out the Kenner brand in 2000.

==Today==

Fandom's relationship with Hasbro is as paradoxical and confusing as our relationships with our [[Wikipedia:Alcoholism|Parents]]. They are an incredible source of joy and happiness, as well as the focal point of rage and blame for pretty much everyone in the Transformers community.

Especially YOU.

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Hasbro

2007-06-02T03:18:29Z

70.190.251.10:

'''Hasbro''' is the owner of the Transformers brand in most markets beyond the Japanese, where it is owned by [[TakaraTomy]].

==History==
Hasbro was originally founded in 1923 as "Hassenfeld Brothers" by brothers Henry and Helal Hassenfeld from Rhode Island. The company originally sold textile remnants, but soon moved into manufacturing pencil boxes and school supplies.

In 1952, Hasbro first rose to fame with the release of a toy named [[Optimash Prime|Mr. Potato Head]], which is still very popular today.

In 1964, Hasbro had an even greater success with the original [[G.I. Joe]] toy designed by Don Levine, which caused Hassenfeld Bros. to grow to be one of the largest toy companies in the USA. In 1968, the company would change its name to "Hasbro Industries, Inc."

Through a series of importing licenses and spin-offs, G.I. Joe would ultimately lead to the [[Microman]] and [[Diaclone]] toylines by Japanese toymaker [[Takara]], which in turn would lead to Hasbro's release of the original Transformers toyline in 1984.

In 1984, Hasbro would also buy out a competing toy company named [[Milton Bradley]] (MB), which whould result in the merged company briefly assuming the name "Hasbro Bradley, Inc." After the merger was completed, the company changed its name into simply "Hasbro, Inc." Milton Bradley's European facilities would also be used to manufacture the initial wave of Transformers toys to be released in Europe before the merger was completed. (See also: [[Generation 1 Europe (toyline)]].)

In 1995, Hasbro transferred control of the Transformers franchise to its [[Kenner]] subsidiary, then phased out the Kenner brand in 2000.

==Today==

Hasbro is paradoxically the singular source of joy, and focal point of rage and blame for everyone in the Transformers community.
Including YOU.

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