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Talk:Beast Wars timeline

2009-12-23T06:02:17Z

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==Depth Charge==
If we're specifically mentioning Ravage's journey from the future to the past, we should include Depth Charge's similar trip as well. [[User:JW|JW]] 16:26, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:That's just because it still waits to be added. Ha ha ;D --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 16:33, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
==Fun Publications and 3H Comics==
What make them any more canon than the IDW comics? I understand that they tie into Beast Wars, but so does the IDW Comics. I also understand that IDW doesn't connect to the Fun and 3H comics..but I don't see them as any more canon than the IDW Comics. Thus, I propose a split. (Its difficult to tell which is Beast Wars the Cartoon and which parts are Comic only stuff anyways, so it'd also help to show others which is from which canon.) I'm surprised it took until now for someone to suggest it really.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]
:The comic stuff should be put in ''italics'' like the [[Transformers Animated timeline]]. Other than that, I don't think a split is necessary. The IDW comics are canon, but brings elements from Japanese fiction into English continuity, so the backstory is a little different than the English Beast Era continuity that is recorded here. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 17:27, 22 December 2009 (EST)
::This page is a "Beast Era timeline." The 3H/FP material covers Beast Machines and Universe, which are so far ignored by IDW's material. IDW's stuff would be a "Beast Wars timeline" only. EDIT: Yeah, that's exactly what we do. Note that the IDW stuff is at [[Beast Wars timeline (IDW)]], not "Beast Era." --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:42, 22 December 2009 (EST)
Alright, well, then is anyone going it italicize the comic parts or something? As it stands, its hard to tell which is from Comics and which is from the Beast Wars (and Beast Machines) show.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]

Thanks for the changes..but I feel my terminology, while corrected..I have to ask again because, I still don't understand how IDW is any less canon to the Beast Era than Fun or 3H. Sure they don't work with each other, but to me, putting those comics with the Cartoon over IDW seems like someones idea of [[Personal_canon]], which doesn't constitute being included in my opinion.EDIT: Forgive the edit, just felt I should space apart from my other post better, as I didn't notice it when I first hit preview.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]

==Waspinator==
Since when did Waspinator fly back to Cybertron from past-Earth with the Wreckers? I thought that entire episode was never explained more than "took forever!". --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 17:09, 22 December 2009 (EST)
: That entry is properly storylinked, so I'm not sure what your question is about. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:39, 22 December 2009 (EST)
:: I'm confused too - the entry, describing Apelinq and company's return to Cybertron, is storylinked to Apelinq's War Journals, but the journals end with Omega Point, with no coverage of said return. [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:11, 22 December 2009 (EST)
::: Ah, there's another one? I read the one that was linked to Primeval Dawn. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:33, 22 December 2009 (EST)
:::: Oh, yeah, I see it now, further up the timeline... so I take it that was one of those things that ''would'' have happened if the comic was finished, but wasn't in any of the actual published stuff? Not read the BotCon stuff... - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:50, 22 December 2009 (EST)
::::: Yeah, we should add a note that it was planned and not published. (I believe the only place on the wiki where this is documented completely is on [[Primal Prime]]'s page. I never got around to copypasting that information to other pages. Definitely something to put on my TO DO list as I've been filling in this Universe stuff lately.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:52, 22 December 2009 (EST)
::Yeah, none of the Primeval Dawn pages mention Waspinator at all. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 21:21, 22 December 2009 (EST)

Talk:Beast Wars timeline

2009-12-23T06:01:09Z

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==Depth Charge==
If we're specifically mentioning Ravage's journey from the future to the past, we should include Depth Charge's similar trip as well. [[User:JW|JW]] 16:26, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:That's just because it still waits to be added. Ha ha ;D --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 16:33, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
==Fun Publications and 3H Comics==
What make them any more canon than the IDW comics? I understand that they tie into Beast Wars, but so does the IDW Comics. I also understand that IDW doesn't connect to the Fun and 3H comics..but I don't see them as any more canon than the IDW Comics. Thus, I propose a split. (Its difficult to tell which is Beast Wars the Cartoon and which parts are Comic only stuff anyways, so it'd also help to show others which is from which canon.) I'm surprised it took until now for someone to suggest it really.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]
:The comic stuff should be put in ''italics'' like the [[Transformers Animated timeline]]. Other than that, I don't think a split is necessary. The IDW comics are canon, but brings elements from Japanese fiction into English continuity, so the backstory is a little different than the English Beast Era continuity that is recorded here. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 17:27, 22 December 2009 (EST)
::This page is a "Beast Era timeline." The 3H/FP material covers Beast Machines and Universe, which are so far ignored by IDW's material. IDW's stuff would be a "Beast Wars timeline" only. EDIT: Yeah, that's exactly what we do. Note that the IDW stuff is at [[Beast Wars timeline (IDW)]], not "Beast Era." --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:42, 22 December 2009 (EST)
Alright, well, then is anyone going it italicize the comic parts or something? As it stands, its hard to tell which is from Comics and which is from the Beast Wars (and Beast Machines) show.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]
Thanks for the changes..but I feel my terminology, while corrected..I have to ask again because, I still don't understand how IDW is any less canon to the Beast Era than Fun or 3H. Sure they don't work with each other, but to me, putting those comics with the Cartoon over IDW seems like someones idea of [[Personal_canon]], which doesn't constitute being included in my opinion.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]

==Waspinator==
Since when did Waspinator fly back to Cybertron from past-Earth with the Wreckers? I thought that entire episode was never explained more than "took forever!". --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 17:09, 22 December 2009 (EST)
: That entry is properly storylinked, so I'm not sure what your question is about. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:39, 22 December 2009 (EST)
:: I'm confused too - the entry, describing Apelinq and company's return to Cybertron, is storylinked to Apelinq's War Journals, but the journals end with Omega Point, with no coverage of said return. [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:11, 22 December 2009 (EST)
::: Ah, there's another one? I read the one that was linked to Primeval Dawn. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:33, 22 December 2009 (EST)
:::: Oh, yeah, I see it now, further up the timeline... so I take it that was one of those things that ''would'' have happened if the comic was finished, but wasn't in any of the actual published stuff? Not read the BotCon stuff... - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:50, 22 December 2009 (EST)
::::: Yeah, we should add a note that it was planned and not published. (I believe the only place on the wiki where this is documented completely is on [[Primal Prime]]'s page. I never got around to copypasting that information to other pages. Definitely something to put on my TO DO list as I've been filling in this Universe stuff lately.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:52, 22 December 2009 (EST)
::Yeah, none of the Primeval Dawn pages mention Waspinator at all. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 21:21, 22 December 2009 (EST)

Talk:Beast Wars timeline

2009-12-22T19:31:10Z

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