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		<title>Shockwave (Movie)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;70.53.249.191: /* Fiction */ That&amp;#039;s how it is in the Autobots version, dunno if the Decepticons one is the same.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{disambig3|Shockwave}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Shockwave is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers (2007)|live-action movie]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Shockwave movie.jpg|thumb|250px|Oooh, right in the robo-junk!]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Shockwave&#039;&#039;&#039; is a massive [[Triple Changer|triple-changing]] Decepticon, capable of converting from his robot mode to either an artillery cannon or an assault helicopter. Apparently, he&#039;s been working to oust [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] since before [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] got the idea. Starscream decided Shockwave will be lucky to be kept as a pet if he takes over.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If he doesn&#039;t get a toy, the fandom shall be pissed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers The Game (console)===&lt;br /&gt;
Shockwave appears as a boss character in the [[Autobot]] campaign.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers Decepticons (DS)===&lt;br /&gt;
Shockwave is playable, after a fashion, via scanning a Stealth Copter or an Attack Copter.  Scanning the Stealth Copter gives you the conventional Shockwave color scheme, while scanning the Attack Copter gives you a color scheme more closely resembling [[Six Shot|this guy]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers Autobots (DS)===&lt;br /&gt;
Shockwave&#039;s body type appears as three helicopters: the Attack Copter, the Recon Chopper and the Stealth Chopper. However, the only one of the three able to become purple like Shockwave is the Attack Copter.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers The Game (PSP)===&lt;br /&gt;
Shockwave is a playable character in the PSP version of the game.  However he only has one alternate mode.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.gamespot.com/video/932116/6172356/transformers-the-game-interview-1 Video interview with Daniel Suarez, featuring Shockwave footage]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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{{stub}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Decepticons]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Movie characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Video game-only characters]]&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Megatron (Movie)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;70.53.249.191: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{disambig3|Megatron}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Megatron is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Movie (franchise)|Movie]] [[continuity family]]. He is often refered to as Lord Megatron. Known to humans as both &amp;quot;The Ice Man&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;The Mega-Man&amp;quot; and more formally as [[N.B.E.]] - 1&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Megatronmovie.jpg |thumb|right|300px|Super Fighting Robot...MEGA-MAN!]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The brother of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] as well as former Lord High Protector and co-ruler of [[Cybertron]], &#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; is vicious and extremely powerful, single-minded in his goals, straight forward and brutally direct in his attempts to seize those goals. He is all &amp;quot;blunt force&amp;quot; in contrast to [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream&#039;s]] penchant for deceit and trickery. On the down side, Megatron tends to become so obsessed with the object of his desires that he can ignore &amp;quot;secondary&amp;quot; matters and glaring flaws in his plans (otherwise, he likely wouldn&#039;t have melted into ice-cold arctic water after being white hot from re-entry and spent millions of years as a popsicle).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Official Movie Prequel&#039;&#039; comic===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MovieMegatron_Bumblebee_torture_comic.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Better get some ice on that.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Megatron once ruled Cybertron side-by-side with [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]. For generations, the two ruled in peace. Megatron was firm, but Prime was fair, creating a nice, even balance. Sadly, he got a jonesing for the [[Allspark|All Spark]] and the war started. When [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] stalled him long enough for it to be launched into space, he tore off Bumblebee&#039;s arm and crushed his voice box (but in the friendliest way). He then took off into space after the All Spark, eventually pulling a [[Jetfire (G1)|Skyfire]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== [[Transformers: Ghosts of Yesterday]] novel ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;The Ice Man&amp;quot; may defrost if some dedicated humans can&#039;t prevent it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; (2007 movie)===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Hugo Weaving]] (English)&lt;br /&gt;
{{spoiler}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Megstheiceman.JPG‎|thumb|right|250px|Ice, Ice Baby!]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Megatron followed the All Spark to [[Earth]], where he successfully crash-landed in the Arctic Circle and was frozen solid for thousands of years. In 1897, some 100 Earth-years before the arrival of the other Transformers, he was discovered by an explorer named [[Archibald Amundsen Witwicky]]. Captain Witwicky accidentally activated Megatron&#039;s navigation system and caused the coordinates of the All Spark to be etched onto the explorer&#039;s glasses. Megatron remained imprisoned in the Arctic, until the 1930s, when he was dug out by the United States government moved to a secret [[Sector Seven]] stronghold inside [[Hoover Dam]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the present day, having searched the galaxy for the All Spark and being drawn to Earth, the remaining Decepticons learn of Witwicky&#039;s glasses. Through the internet, they determine the location of both Megatron and the All Spark inside Hoover Dam. [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]] infiltrated the dam and shut down the power systems, resulting in Megatron&#039;s thawing out. Megatron declared his name before jetting off after the All Spark again. He chases a particular [[Samuel James Witwicky|human]] who removed the All Spark from the dam. Unfortunately, this human is protected by Optimus Prime.  The brothers are evenly-matched, but Megatron is eventually killed when the human rams the All Spark into the Decepticon&#039;s chest. This will not give him anymore [[Galvatron (G1)|power]].  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Megatroncannontr4.gif|right|thumb|200px|Bringing out the big guns]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Megatron&#039;s body, in addition to the bodies of the other defeated Decepticons, are dumped into the ocean at its deepest point.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; The Game===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Frank Welker]]&lt;br /&gt;
He&#039;d like to see the entire planet burn beneath his feet. Unfortunately, this means toasty tootsies but he&#039;s willing to make the sacrifice.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers (2007)===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Leader, 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;MD-07&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Movie_Leader_Megatron_toy.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Just what the hell do I turn into?]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Leader class &#039;&#039;Movie&#039;&#039; Megatron transforms into a silver Cybertronic assault jet. He is quite accurate to the CGI design... except for the giant mass of legs attempting (but failing) to hide under the wings.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: In robot mode, Megatron&#039;s sculpt is quite accurate, or as accurate as a toy based on his CG design can be. However, his paint decoration is quite inaccurate, with blue highlights on various parts of his body, possibly to allude to his pre-frozen state and to give a relatively monochromatic figure more colour. More confusing is his jet black face, which obscures the sculpt&#039;s details and is inaccurate to the movie appearance&#039; gunmetal.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Megatron&#039;s right fist disconnects at the wrist to become the spiked end of the extendable &amp;quot;chain whip&amp;quot; weapon concealed within his forearm (perhaps in homage to [[Megatron (G1)|G1 Megatron]]&#039;s own flail weapon); pressing the black switch on the arm pulls the chain taut for a whipping attack. His arms also link together at the wrists to form a &amp;quot;fusion cannon,&amp;quot; with the pod on his left forearm concealing the weapon&#039;s [[Automorph]]ing twin barrels, exposed by pulling a switch. His other automorph features include his wings folding up as his vehicle nosecone is moved into place, and his feet unfolding as his knees are straightened. Finally, pressing the button on his waist activates a small friction motor, which moves various torso plates and blades on his back into place, accompanied by a metallic shrieking sound and flashing yellow lights.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Megatron&#039;s instructions summarily fail to actually tell the reader about how his gimmicks work. The whipping-action black switch for his flail is not mentioned; they do not detail how to connect the arms for fusion cannon mode; and the fact that the cannon is on a slider, allowing it to be centre-aligned, rather than sitting off to one side, is also omitted.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: There is a significant assembly error in Megatron&#039;s arms: The right fist is &#039;&#039;supposed&#039;&#039; to launch out of the right arm, while the left arm fusion cannon is supposed to slide into position normally without requiring the user to hold it in position. However, the spring for the launching mechanism was placed in his left arm instead of his right arm, which essentially neuters the gimmicks of both arms. By switching the spring from the left arm to his right arm, the right fist should now launch properly and the left arm cannon should now Automorph correctly.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: There is also an error in Megatron&#039;s legs, in that his left and right hip joints have been swapped for reasons unknown.  Switching them allows for a slightly smoother transformation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Damn it&#039;&#039;, Hasbro.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Legends, 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Movie_Legends_Megatron_toy.jpg|thumb|right|Again, what the hell do I turn into?]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Legends class Megatron is the smallest mainline &#039;&#039;Movie&#039;&#039; Megatron toy, and boy does it show. Even with Megatron&#039;s relatively simple transformation sequence, the sheer simplicity of the Legends class toy means that in vehicle mode he is basically his robot mode splayed out, and again, boy is it obvious. His robot mode is passably accurate, if by accurate one means he is now a hunchback with wings for legs and Dustbusters for hands.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Voyager, 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;MD-14&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A lot like the larger figure, but with a slightly different Transformation sequence.  This one also has lots of clear blue plastic &amp;quot;ice&amp;quot; for parts of its body, including integral pieces of its wings. His chest frost lowers and his shoulders raise to robot mode position when you bring his lower body forward thanks to [[Automorph]] technology. He also has his fusion cannon in its entirety on his left arm. His wings feature flip-out &amp;quot;ice blade&amp;quot;, and pulling on a piece in the back of his jet mode brings them forward like pincer claws. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Something interesting to note is that his feet are entirely spring-loaded, which means his foot and the two &amp;quot;rear toes&amp;quot; on each feet automatically close up when he&#039;s not standing up. Surprisingly, this helps a lot with the posing as the feet&#039;s parts automatically position themselves for the perfect balance.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Fast Action Battlers====&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Robot Replicas====&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Attacktix===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Attacktix-MovMegsScorp.jpg|right|thumb|150px|HADOUKEN!]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Battle Masters Megatron and Scorponok&#039;&#039;&#039; (Battle Master set, 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* The card back of both Leader and Voyager classes Megatrons&#039; packagings show him with a completely different head based on an earlier render.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{stub}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Attacktix]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Decepticon leaders]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Decepticons]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Movie characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Robot Heroes]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Titanium Series]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Siblings]]&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Megatron (Movie)</title>
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		<updated>2007-07-06T01:41:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;70.53.249.191: /* Transformers (2007) */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{disambig3|Megatron}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Megatron is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Movie (franchise)|Movie]] [[continuity family]]. He is often refered to as Lord Megatron. Known to humans as both &amp;quot;The Ice Man&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;The Mega-Man&amp;quot; and more formally as [[N.B.E.]] - 1&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Megatronmovie.jpg |thumb|right|300px|Super Fighting Robot...MEGA-MAN!]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The brother of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] as well as former Lord High Protector and co-ruler of [[Cybertron]], &#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; is vicious and extremely powerful, single-minded in his goals, straight forward and brutally direct in his attempts to seize those goals. He is all &amp;quot;blunt force&amp;quot; in contrast to [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream&#039;s]] penchant for deceit and trickery. On the down side, Megatron tends to become so obsessed with the object of his desires that he can ignore &amp;quot;secondary&amp;quot; matters and glaring flaws in his plans (otherwise, he likely wouldn&#039;t have melted into ice-cold arctic water after being white hot from re-entry and spent millions of years as a popsicle).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Official Movie Prequel&#039;&#039; comic===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MovieMegatron_Bumblebee_torture_comic.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Better get some ice on that.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Megatron once ruled Cybertron side-by-side with [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]. For generations, the two ruled in peace. Megatron was firm, but Prime was fair, creating a nice, even balance. Sadly, he got a jonesing for the [[Allspark|All Spark]] and the war started. When [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] stalled him long enough for it to be launched into space, he tore off Bumblebee&#039;s arm and crushed his voice box (but in the friendliest way). He then took off into space after the All Spark, eventually pulling a [[Jetfire (G1)|Skyfire]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== [[Transformers: Ghosts of Yesterday]] novel ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;The Ice Man&amp;quot; may defrost if some dedicated humans can&#039;t prevent it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; (2007 movie)===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Hugo Weaving]] (English)&lt;br /&gt;
{{spoiler}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Megstheiceman.JPG‎|thumb|right|250px|Ice, Ice Baby!]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Megatron followed the All Spark to [[Earth]], where he successfully crash-landed in the Arctic Circle and was frozen solid for thousands of years. In 1897, some 100 Earth-years before the arrival of the other Transformers, he was discovered by an explorer named [[Archibald Amundsen Witwicky]]. Captain Witwicky accidentally activated Megatron&#039;s navigation system and caused the coordinates of the All Spark to be etched onto the explorer&#039;s glasses. Megatron remained imprisoned in the Arctic, until the 1930s, when he was dug out by the United States government moved to a secret [[Sector Seven]] stronghold inside [[Hoover Dam]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the present day, having searched the galaxy for the All Spark and being drawn to Earth, the remaining Decepticons learn of Witwicky&#039;s glasses. Through the internet, they determine the location of both Megatron and the All Spark inside Hoover Dam. [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]] infiltrated the dam and shut down the power systems, resulting in Megatron&#039;s thawing out. Megatron declared his name before jetting off after the All Spark again. He chases a particular [[Samuel James Witwicky|human]] who removed the All Spark from the dam. Unfortunately, this human is protected by Optimus Prime.  The brothers are evenly-matched, but Megatron is eventually killed when the human rams the All Spark into the Decepticon&#039;s chest. This will not give him anymore [[Galvatron (G1)|power]].  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Megatroncannontr4.gif|right|thumb|200px|Bringing out the big guns]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Megatron&#039;s body, in addition to the bodies of the other defeated Decepticons, are dumped into the ocean at its deepest point.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; The Game===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Frank Welker]]&lt;br /&gt;
He&#039;d like to see the entire planet burn beneath his feet. Unfortunately, this means toasty tootsies but he&#039;s willing to make the sacrifice.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers (2007)===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Leader, 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;MD-07&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Movie_Leader_Megatron_toy.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Just what the hell do I turn into?]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Leader class &#039;&#039;Movie&#039;&#039; Megatron transforms into a silver Cybertronic assault jet. He is quite accurate to the CGI design... except for the giant mass of legs attempting (but failing) to hide under the wings.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: In robot mode, Megatron&#039;s sculpt is quite accurate, or as accurate as a toy based on his CG design can be. However, his paint decoration is quite inaccurate, with blue highlights on various parts of his body, possibly to allude to his pre-frozen state and to give a relatively monochromatic figure more colour. More confusing is his jet black face, which obscures the sculpt&#039;s details and is inaccurate to the movie appearance&#039; gunmetal.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Megatron&#039;s right fist disconnects at the wrist to become the spiked end of the extendable &amp;quot;chain whip&amp;quot; weapon concealed within his forearm (perhaps in homage to [[Megatron (G1)|G1 Megatron]]&#039;s own flail weapon); pressing the black switch on the arm pulls the chain taut for a whipping attack. His arms also link together at the wrists to form a &amp;quot;fusion cannon,&amp;quot; with the pod on his left forearm concealing the weapon&#039;s [[Automorph]]ing twin barrels, exposed by pulling a switch. His other automorph features include his wings folding up as his vehicle nosecone is moved into place, and his feet unfolding as his knees are straightened. Finally, pressing the button on his waist activates a small friction motor, which moves various torso plates and blades on his back into place, accompanied by a metallic shrieking sound and flashing yellow lights.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Megatron&#039;s instructions summarily fail to actually tell the reader about how his gimmicks work. The whipping-action black switch for his flail is not mentioned; they do not detail how to connect the arms for fusion cannon mode; and the fact that the cannon is on a slider, allowing it to be centre-aligned, rather than sitting off to one side, is also omitted.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: There is a significant assembly error in Megatron&#039;s arms: The right fist is &#039;&#039;supposed&#039;&#039; to launch out of the right arm, while the left arm fusion cannon is supposed to slide into position normally without requiring the user to hold it in position. However, the spring for the launching mechanism was placed in his left arm instead of his right arm, which essentially neuters the gimmicks of both arms. By switching the spring from the left arm to his right arm, the right fist should now launch properly and the left arm cannon should now Automorph correctly.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: There is also an error in Megatron&#039;s legs, in that his left and right hip joints have been swapped for reasons unknown.  Switching them allows for a slightly smoother transformation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Geez&#039;&#039;, Hasbro.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Legends, 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Movie_Legends_Megatron_toy.jpg|thumb|right|Again, what the hell do I turn into?]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Legends class Megatron is the smallest mainline &#039;&#039;Movie&#039;&#039; Megatron toy, and boy does it show. Even with Megatron&#039;s relatively simple transformation sequence, the sheer simplicity of the Legends class toy means that in vehicle mode he is basically his robot mode splayed out, and again, boy is it obvious. His robot mode is passably accurate, if by accurate one means he is now a hunchback with wings for legs and Dustbusters for hands.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Voyager, 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;MD-14&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:A lot like the larger figure, but with a slightly different Transformation sequence.  This one also has lots of clear blue plastic &amp;quot;ice&amp;quot; for parts of its body, including integral pieces of its wings. His chest frost lowers and his shoulders raise to robot mode position when you bring his lower body forward thanks to [[Automorph]] technology. He also has his fusion cannon in its entirety on his left arm. His wings feature flip-out &amp;quot;ice blade&amp;quot;, and pulling on a piece in the back of his jet mode brings them forward like pincer claws. &lt;br /&gt;
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:Something interesting to note is that his feet are entirely spring-loaded, which means his foot and the two &amp;quot;rear toes&amp;quot; on each feet automatically close up when he&#039;s not standing up. Surprisingly, this helps a lot with the posing as the feet&#039;s parts automatically position themselves for the perfect balance.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Fast Action Battlers====&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (2007)&lt;br /&gt;
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====Robot Replicas====&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (2007)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Attacktix===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Attacktix-MovMegsScorp.jpg|right|thumb|150px|HADOUKEN!]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Battle Masters Megatron and Scorponok&#039;&#039;&#039; (Battle Master set, 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Megatron (Movie)</title>
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:&#039;&#039;Megatron is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Movie (franchise)|Movie]] [[continuity family]]. He is often refered to as Lord Megatron. Known to humans as both &amp;quot;The Ice Man&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;The Mega-Man&amp;quot; and more formally as [[N.B.E.]] - 1&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Megatronmovie.jpg |thumb|right|300px|Super Fighting Robot...MEGA-MAN!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The brother of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] as well as former Lord High Protector and co-ruler of [[Cybertron]], &#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; is vicious and extremely powerful, single-minded in his goals, straight forward and brutally direct in his attempts to seize those goals. He is all &amp;quot;blunt force&amp;quot; in contrast to [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream&#039;s]] penchant for deceit and trickery. On the down side, Megatron tends to become so obsessed with the object of his desires that he can ignore &amp;quot;secondary&amp;quot; matters and glaring flaws in his plans (otherwise, he likely wouldn&#039;t have melted into ice-cold arctic water after being white hot from re-entry and spent millions of years as a popsicle).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Official Movie Prequel&#039;&#039; comic===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MovieMegatron_Bumblebee_torture_comic.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Better get some ice on that.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron once ruled Cybertron side-by-side with [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]. For generations, the two ruled in peace. Megatron was firm, but Prime was fair, creating a nice, even balance. Sadly, he got a jonesing for the [[Allspark|All Spark]] and the war started. When [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] stalled him long enough for it to be launched into space, he tore off Bumblebee&#039;s arm and crushed his voice box (but in the friendliest way). He then took off into space after the All Spark, eventually pulling a [[Jetfire (G1)|Skyfire]].&lt;br /&gt;
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=== [[Transformers: Ghosts of Yesterday]] novel ===&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;The Ice Man&amp;quot; may defrost if some dedicated humans can&#039;t prevent it.&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; (2007 movie)===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Hugo Weaving]] (English)&lt;br /&gt;
{{spoiler}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Megstheiceman.JPG‎|thumb|right|250px|Ice, Ice Baby!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron followed the All Spark to [[Earth]], where he successfully crash-landed in the Arctic Circle and was frozen solid for thousands of years. In 1897, some 100 Earth-years before the arrival of the other Transformers, he was discovered by an explorer named [[Archibald Amundsen Witwicky]]. Captain Witwicky accidentally activated Megatron&#039;s navigation system and caused the coordinates of the All Spark to be etched onto the explorer&#039;s glasses. Megatron remained imprisoned in the Arctic, until the 1930s, when he was dug out by the United States government moved to a secret [[Sector Seven]] stronghold inside [[Hoover Dam]].&lt;br /&gt;
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In the present day, having searched the galaxy for the All Spark and being drawn to Earth, the remaining Decepticons learn of Witwicky&#039;s glasses. Through the internet, they determine the location of both Megatron and the All Spark inside Hoover Dam. [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]] infiltrated the dam and shut down the power systems, resulting in Megatron&#039;s thawing out. Megatron declared his name before jetting off after the All Spark again. He chases a particular [[Samuel James Witwicky|human]] who removed the All Spark from the dam. Unfortunately, this human is protected by Optimus Prime.  The brothers are evenly-matched, but Megatron is eventually killed when the human rams the All Spark into the Decepticon&#039;s chest. This will not give him anymore [[Galvatron (G1)|power]].  &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Megatroncannontr4.gif|right|thumb|200px|Bringing out the big guns]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron&#039;s body, in addition to the bodies of the other defeated Decepticons, are dumped into the ocean at its deepest point.&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; The Game===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Frank Welker]]&lt;br /&gt;
He&#039;d like to see the entire planet burn beneath his feet. Unfortunately, this means toasty tootsies but he&#039;s willing to make the sacrifice.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers (2007)===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Leader, 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;MD-07&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Movie_Leader_Megatron_toy.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Just what the hell do I turn into?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: Leader class &#039;&#039;Movie&#039;&#039; Megatron transforms into a silver Cybertronic assault jet. He is quite accurate to the CGI design... except for the giant mass of legs attempting (but failing) to hide under the wings.&lt;br /&gt;
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: In robot mode, Megatron&#039;s sculpt is quite accurate, or as accurate as a toy based on his CG design can be. However, his paint decoration is quite inaccurate, with blue highlights on various parts of his body, possibly to allude to his pre-frozen state and to give a relatively monochromatic figure more colour. More confusing is his jet black face, which obscures the sculpt&#039;s details and is inaccurate to the movie appearance&#039; gunmetal.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Megatron&#039;s right fist disconnects at the wrist to become the spiked end of the extendable &amp;quot;chain whip&amp;quot; weapon concealed within his forearm (perhaps in homage to [[Megatron (G1)|G1 Megatron]]&#039;s own flail weapon); pressing the black switch on the arm pulls the chain taut for a whipping attack. His arms also link together at the wrists to form a &amp;quot;fusion cannon,&amp;quot; with the pod on his left forearm concealing the weapon&#039;s [[Automorph]]ing twin barrels, exposed by pulling a switch. His other automorph features include his wings folding up as his vehicle nosecone is moved into place, and his feet unfolding as his knees are straightened. Finally, pressing the button on his waist activates a small friction motor, which moves various torso plates and blades on his back into place, accompanied by a metallic shrieking sound and flashing yellow lights.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Megatron&#039;s instructions summarily fail to actually tell the reader about how his gimmicks work. The whipping-action black switch for his flail is not mentioned; they do not detail how to connect the arms for fusion cannon mode; and the fact that the cannon is on a slider, allowing it to be centre-aligned, rather than sitting off to one side, is also omitted.&lt;br /&gt;
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: There is a significant assembly error in Megatron&#039;s arms: The right fist is &#039;&#039;supposed&#039;&#039; to launch out of the right arm, while the left arm fusion cannon is supposed to slide into position normally without requiring the user to hold it in position. However, the spring for the launching mechanism was placed in his left arm instead of his right arm, which essentially neuters the gimmicks of both arms. By switching the spring from the left arm to his right arm, the right fist should now launch properly and the left arm cannon should now Automorph correctly.&lt;br /&gt;
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: There is also an error in Megatron&#039;s legs, in that his left and right hip joints have been swapped for reasons unknown.  Switching them allows for a slightly smoother transformation.&lt;br /&gt;
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: &#039;&#039;Geez&#039;&#039;, Hasbro.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Legends, 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Movie_Legends_Megatron_toy.jpg|thumb|right|Again, what the hell do I turn into?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Legends class Megatron is the smallest mainline &#039;&#039;Movie&#039;&#039; Megatron toy, and boy does it show. Even with Megatron&#039;s relatively simple transformation sequence, the sheer simplicity of the Legends class toy means that in vehicle mode he is basically his robot mode splayed out, and again, boy is it obvious. His robot mode is passably accurate, if by accurate one means he is now a hunchback with wings for legs and Dustbusters for hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Voyager, 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;MD-14&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:A lot like the larger figure, but with a slightly different Transformation sequence.  This one also has lots of clear blue plastic &amp;quot;ice&amp;quot; for parts of its body, including integral pieces of its wings. His chest frost lowers and his shoulders raise to robot mode position when you bring his lower body forward thanks to [[Automorph]] technology. He also has his fusion cannon in its entirety on his left arm. His wings feature flip-out &amp;quot;ice blade&amp;quot;, and pulling on a piece in the back of his jet mode brings them forward like pincer claws. &lt;br /&gt;
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Something interesting to note is that his feet are entirely spring-loaded, which means his foot and the two &amp;quot;rear toes&amp;quot; on each feet automatically close up when he&#039;s not standing up. Surprisingly, this helps a lot with the posing as the feet&#039;s parts automatically position themselves for the perfect balance.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Fast Action Battlers====&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (2007)&lt;br /&gt;
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====Robot Replicas====&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (2007)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Attacktix===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Attacktix-MovMegsScorp.jpg|right|thumb|150px|HADOUKEN!]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Battle Masters Megatron and Scorponok&#039;&#039;&#039; (Battle Master set, 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category: Decepticons]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category: Robot Heroes]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Scale</title>
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		<updated>2007-07-05T23:03:16Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:OptimusSnakeEyes.jpg|right|thumb|300px|And the truck&#039;s &#039;&#039;how&#039;&#039; big...?]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Scale&#039;&#039;&#039; in the &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; multiverse is, to put not too fine a point on it, screwed.&lt;br /&gt;
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Virtually no generation, era, franchise, fiction, toyline or other incarnation of &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; has presented scale in a consistent, logical or easily-believable fashion. Most fans would agree that one needs to either ignore it or accept it, lest they be tempted to actually explain away these problems and in the process undoubtedly [[Wikipedia:fanwank|fanwank]] themselves into oblivion.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, this does not mean that the chronic scale problems of &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; do not merit description.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Scale within toylines ==&lt;br /&gt;
As is generally well known, the early [[Generation 1 (toyline)|Generation 1 toyline]], especially the entire pre-[[Transformers: The Movie|Movie]] lines, were created from repackaged and [[redeco]]ed toys from several different Japanese transforming toylines. The crucial point being that they came from &#039;&#039;different&#039;&#039; toylines. All characters (well, virtually all; see below) &#039;&#039;should&#039;&#039; be in correct scale to each other as they all are supposed to represent real-world altmodes that can pass for correctly-scaled vehicles etc. However, since the &#039;&#039;[[Diaclone]]&#039;&#039; toys were not designed to be part of the same line as &#039;&#039;[[Microman]]&#039;&#039; toys, scale issue arise. While &#039;&#039;Diaclone&#039;&#039; figures such as [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] are more-or-less in correct scale to each other, many of the [[Mini Vehicle]]s from the &#039;&#039;New Microman&#039;&#039; line are clearly far too small by comparison. Even aside from the deformed [[penny-racer]] style proportions, even a comparatively small car such as a [[Bumblebee (G1)|Volkswagen]] is disproportionately tiny when compared to a [[Jazz (G1)|Porsche]] that should be in the same scale. The disparity becomes all the more obvious with other [[minibot]]s such as [[Warpath]] and [[Seaspray]] whose [[altmode]]s would suggest that they should be many times their actual size.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:DiacloneScale.jpg|left|thumb|400px|That little guy --who comes from the same toyline as all those vehicles-- is supposed to be a normal-sized human. Yyyeah.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Another glaring scale problem comes in the form of the [[Seeker]]s, who turn into F-15 Eagles which, in real life, are 63.8 ft (19.44 m) long. Clearly not in scale with the Autobot cars then... &lt;br /&gt;
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Neither, for that matter, are the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]], despite also coming from the &#039;&#039;[[Diaclone]]&#039;&#039; line.  Even &#039;&#039;more&#039;&#039; out-of-scale are the other &#039;&#039;Diaclone&#039;&#039;-born combiner team the [[Trainbot]]s who, as the name implies, have train engine altmodes, considerably larger than cars and most construction equipment, yet their toys are among the smallest of the original &#039;&#039;Diaclone&#039;&#039; releases.&lt;br /&gt;
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Even toys specifically designed to interact with each other often suffer from this problem.  The [[Combaticon]]s, for instance, are wildly out of scale to each other--[[Blast Off]]&#039;s space shuttle mode should be the largest by far, and [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] should be significantly smaller than the others.  Among the aforementioned Constructicons, [[Long Haul (G1)|Long Haul]], like most dumptrucks in &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039;, is actually one of those gigantic [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Liebherr_t282_1.jpg &amp;quot;earth-mover&amp;quot; mining trucks],  which would make him significantly bigger than his teammates.&lt;br /&gt;
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Other scale problems come from characters who transform into the same (or very similar) altforms but whose toys are very different sizes. For example [[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] transforms into and F-15 Eagle, but his toy is half the size of [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]&#039;s. In reality they should be an identical size (in fact, [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]], transforming into a Concorde passenger jet should in fact be one of the largest G1 Transformers with an Earth altmode). The same can be said for [[Breakdown]], who, having a Lamborghini Countach altmode, should be in scale with [[Sunstreaker]]. This also goes for the other [[Stunticon]]s and all the Special Teams/[[Scramble City]]-type combiners with Earth-based altmodes, whose toys are all out of scale to earlier waves. By the same token, Warpath should be roughly the same size as [[Blitzwing]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Speaking of Blitzwing, [[Triple Changer|Triple-Changers]] create a whole new set of problems.  [[Octane]] transforms from a roughly 60-foot tanker truck into a 200-foot plus jumbo jet.  [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]] transforms from an Earth jet into an entire &#039;&#039;aircraft carrier&#039;&#039;, presumably sized to carry quite a few Earth jets.  More recent series, such as [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave&#039;s]] &#039;&#039;[[More Than Meets The Eye]]&#039;&#039;, suggest that this is possible due to a variety of sliding panels, essentially making the transformations akin to incredibly elaborate origami. You heard right; origami Transformers. Yup.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, from an in-universe logic perspective, the characters with role-play altmodes such as [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]], [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] or [[Laserbeak (Armada)|Armada Laserbeak]] are scaled to be human(well, kid)-scale. Although [[size changing]] is obviously not possible for real toys (or at least, that&#039;s what [[Takara]] &#039;&#039;wants&#039;&#039; us to think...), this human-scaling makes in some cases for inordinately large robot modes, e.g. [[Blaster]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Most post-[[The Transformers: The Movie (1986)|Movie]] G1 characters (and, for that mater, most post-G1 &#039;&#039;lines&#039;&#039;) are difficult to accurately scale, as they generally transform into &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Cybertonian&amp;quot; vehicles for which there are no real-world specifications, or indeed don&#039;t transform into vehicles at all. Therefore the scale of characters such as [[Hot Rod]] or [[Leobreaker]] are fairly arbitrary and can at best be estimated by their relative size to more scale-friendly characters within the same fictions, although most animation is highly inconsistent in this regard (see below). Nevertheless, if one presumes that most vehicle altmodes are intended to house human passengers, comparisons of toys such as [[Chromedome]] and [[Lightspeed (Technobot)|Lightspeed]] suggest a scale disparity similar to other combiners.&lt;br /&gt;
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There has only been one notable exception to all of this scale wierdness; the &#039;&#039;[[Alternators]]&#039;&#039; toyline, where every item is a 1:24-scale representation of a real car model, and thus remain in near-perfect scale with each other.&lt;br /&gt;
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One last interesting case, related to the aforementioned Triple Changer difficulty, is when the toy is not in scale &#039;&#039;with itself&#039;&#039;. For example, 20th Anniversary Optimus Prime has wheels which are proportionally too small for a Freightliner truck, while similarly his rear section onto which a trailer would be hitched is much too thick.  These out-of-proportion vehicle parts were necessary to give to his robot mode better robot proportions.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Scale within fictions ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TeenyCliff.jpg|left|thumb|Cliffjumper is one ****ing tiny car. Or Hound is a ****ing huge Jeep.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Scale issues abound within fictions, especially the [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|G1 cartoon]]. A lot can be attributed to animation errors, or even &amp;quot;lazy animation&amp;quot;. [[Size changing]] is rarely depicted on screen outside of characters such as [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] and [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]], but is rather implied (or, one could argue in many cases, inferred) in the following method: a character such as [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] transforms in-frame from robot to shuttle with no visible expansion of size relative to his surroundings. Cut. In the following shot his fellow Decepticons are shown running into frame, suddenly tiny in stature so that they can board the shuttle. Although Astrotrain has not been shown to actually grow (in the way Megatron is usually seen to perceptibly shrink in-shot), one infers that it is more likely that Astrotrain has expanded rather than all his confederates have individually shrunk. The same goes for [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] and other &amp;quot;transport&amp;quot; characters.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some scale problems appear to be arbitrary, for example Optimus Prime (and, indeed, most Transformers in general) is routinely shown as being throughly gargantuan, equal to several stories in hight and capable of cradling humans in the palm of one hand. In reality, Prime would probably be about 25-30 feet tall, at best. Conversely, [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] is sometimes shown as being only a few feet taller than an average human, where in reality he would be around 10-15 feet tall. And those pesky [[Seeker]]s remain a walking scale problem; in reality they would be amongst the largest Transformers of all and would &#039;&#039;tower&#039;&#039; over their Autobot adversaries, whereas the animation generally depicts character such as [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] and [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] as being approximately the same height.&lt;br /&gt;
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In most cases, the [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|G1 cartoon]] adopts approximations of the toy scale (with all its inherent problems) when depicting the characters in robot modes; Prime, Megatron and Soundwave are generally animated at the same height, Seekers and Autobot cars slightly shorter (although not &#039;&#039;as&#039;&#039; much shorter and unevenly so as the actual toys are), and [[Minibot]]s are given a smaller stature again. However, these depictions were &#039;&#039;far&#039;&#039; from consistent.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some fans interpret these discrepancies to also be the result of [[size changing]], but this is debatable. If virtually all characters used mass-shifting  (or whatever) to gain or drop just a few feet for no apparent reason (other than to make the animation more plausible), the technology would seem pointlessly mundane. Furthermore there is no strong evidence in the series to indicate that size changing truly is so widespread as opposed to the animation having a particular style to it that favors emphasizing the hugeness of the Cybertronians.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is worth noting that the [[Transformers (2007)|live-action movie]] has taken great pains to avoid size-changing and out-of-scale issues among characters with Earth-based alternate modes. This is sometimes reflected in the choice of vehicle ([[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] is a long-nosed truck cab in order to offer more mass to make a taller robot mode out of) or the design of their robot modes &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DreamwaveCover6.jpg|right|thumb|200px|...since when is a sedan 9 stories tall?]]([[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]&#039;s robot mode is nearly as wide as it is tall, with shorter, digitigrade-style legs so the massive jet-former won&#039;t end up twice as tall as Optimus). Though in the case of [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]], his huge alternate mode simply results in a huge, hulking, towering robot mode.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Combiner scale ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Combiner]] characters are often depicted as far larger than the sum of their parts. Characters such as [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] and [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] are frequently shown being as tall as large buildings, sometimes even the size of small skyscrapers. When one thinks that their individual limbs are comprised of mere cars and construction vehicles, this becomes patently absurd. Logically, this can only be accounted for by serious [[size changing|size-change-o-rama]] and yet, again, no clear depiction of this process actually taking place is ever shown in the case of combiners.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Superion (G1)|Superion]], however, actually &#039;&#039;would&#039;&#039; be fairly massive, if one considers the much larger real-world size of his component parts.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Show scale vs. toy scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Some characters have great discrepancies between their cartoon scale and their toy scale. &amp;quot;Giant&amp;quot; characters such as [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] are, even aside from any [[size changing]] for transport purposes, clearly not in the same scale in toy form as they are depicted on screen. [[Mini-Cassettes|Cassette characters]] such as [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]]&#039;s toys are roughly the same height as most [[Minibot]]s, while in the show they are usually portrayed as human-sized (which is odd, considering that Soundwave is capable of expanding to massive size).&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Hot Rod|Rodimus Prime]] and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] are usually shown to be of a fairly similar height (although Magnus is much bulkier), whereas there is a considerable difference between the size of their toys. By the same token, Rodimus is always depicted as being an equal stature to his opposing leader [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], whereas the toy Galvatron is instead the same size as Magnus. Optimus Prime is also usually shown as only a head or so shorter than Magnus (if that), which gets very strange when you realise that a recolour of Prime&#039;s toy forms but a small part of Magnus&#039; robot mode.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ShrinkingHeavy.jpg|left|thumb|250px|I lost thirty tons, thanks to the Jump-Cut! Thank you, Jump-Cut!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Metroplex (Cybertron)|&#039;&#039;Cybertron&#039;&#039; Metroplex]] and the other citizens of [[Gigantion]] are depicted as gargantuan in animation, whereas the toys are merely among the normal boxed size-classes. (Although, the Japanese [[Galaxy Force]] release, dubbed &amp;quot;Megalo Convoy&amp;quot;, included an exclusive [[redeco]] of the [[Heroes of Cybertron]] [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] to indicate the &amp;quot;correct&amp;quot; scale.) Within the animation, though, this causes problems with their Mini-Con partners, who are depicted as human-sized in robot mode by themselves, but when directly interacting with their larger partners, retain their size in relation to the toy... meaning some temporarily-gigantic Mini-Cons!&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pretender scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The G1 concept of [[Pretender|Pretenders]] had some interesting scale issues. In the [[Generation 1 (Marvel Comics)|original comic]] the pretenders appeared fairly literally as their toy counterparts; normal-sized robots inside humanoid shells. The logical result of this was that the [[Autobot]] Pretenders were depicted as giant-sized humans. Which ain&#039;t much of a disguise. By comparison, the [[Decepticon]]s merely look like garden-variety giant Saban monsters. In one issue of the comic Cloudburst transformed into jet mode, and his shell, as well as Landmine, who was inside his shell, boarded him. It was difficult to tell if Cloudburst was supposed to have grown in size, or if his shell and Landmine had shrunk to fit inside.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the U.S. toy commercials Classic Pretenders Grimlock, Bumblebee and Jazz were depicted as small enough to fit in Powermaster Optimus Prime&#039;s hand, so it is assumed they were human sized. &lt;br /&gt;
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Although the [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|original American cartoon]] did not feature any [[Pretender|Pretenders]], the Japanese-only continuity did, in their series &#039;&#039;[[Masterforce (cartoon)|Super-God Masterforce]]&#039;&#039;. Here the Pretenders were not shells so much as ill-defined wholistic transformations which involved [[size changing]], allowing the large Autobots to achieve human size and convincingly pass themselves off as such. The Decepticons, by comparison chose to retain their gigantic proportions when in Pretender-mode.&lt;br /&gt;
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Although never depicted in any of their actual fiction, [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave&#039;s]] &#039;&#039;[[More Than Meets The Eye]]&#039;&#039; profile book included a description of their continuity&#039;s take on the Pretender concept. Something of a fusion of the above two, it described a physical shell that utilizes [[size changing|shrinking]] technology to achieve the &#039;&#039;[[Masterforce (cartoon)|Masterfore]]&#039;&#039;-like capacity to pass the wearer off as a real human (or other bipedal lifeform of choice). Intriguingly, the profile also obliquely implies that such Pretender technology would/could later lead to the development of the synthetic faux-organic beast-mode tech of the [[Beast Era]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mini-Con scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Mini-Con]]s of the [[Unicron Trilogy]] are small robots who stand approximately the same height as a human. However, they almost all transform into vehicles (of either Earth or Cybertronian design) which are clearly modeled to include cockpits etc. for carrying passengers, and yet they are obviously too small to accommodate humans (the only exceptions being [[Grindor (Armada)|Grindor]], [[Sureshock]] and [[High Wire]], who become small one-man vehicles... well, &#039;&#039;[[Energon (franchise)|Energon]]&#039;&#039; Grindor doesn&#039;t). Who then these smaller-than-human passengers could possibly be is something of a mystery, setting aside the posibility that the mini-cons simply scan &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; vehicle modes and resize them to fit their smaller bodies.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the [[Cybertron (cartoon)|&#039;&#039;Cybertron&#039;&#039; cartoon]], the [[Recon Mini-Con Team]] retain their slightly-larger-than-human robot modes, but their alternate modes are large enough to contain a human passenger.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Micromaster scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
By the same token as Mini-Cons, [[Micromaster]]s are depicted as being roughly human-sized, and yet virtually all turn into real (albeit generic) earth vehicles that are patently incapable of fitting human passangers inside them. The illogic of this was never really addressed in contemporaneous G1 fictions, however the [[Dreamwave]] miniseries &#039;&#039;[[Micromasters]]&#039;&#039; hinted at some kind of explanation, but it was pretty much bollocks. The Marvel comic series featured some of them size-changing to vehicles that definitely &#039;&#039;were&#039;&#039; to human scale (as humans got in them), but this wasn&#039;t applied consistently (it also brings up the question of how much energy the downsizing really saves if they have to change their mass every time they transform).&lt;br /&gt;
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Like their larger G1 brothers, the Micromaster line was plagued with scale problems even within the line itself, as all Micromasters conformed to a virutally identical robot-mode height yet transformed into all manner of vehicles which would be drastically different sizes to each other if they were supposed to be in relative scale. Furthermore, some Micromaster bases transformed into vehicle altmodes much larger than their operators, creating a further scale headache. However, there is no indication in any fiction that the Micromasters were, unlike the rest of G1, even &#039;&#039;supposed&#039;&#039; to have any accurate scale, even compared to each other. What, therefore, was the point of their &amp;quot;realistic&amp;quot; altmodes (other than to sell cute mini-toys) is anyone&#039;s guess.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Citybots ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EarlyGalvatronTVMagazine1.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Okay, if you were ever &#039;&#039;this&#039;&#039; big in the cartoon, THEN we might be able to call you a city.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The characters [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]], [[Trypticon]], [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] and [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] each have altmodes which are described as a &amp;quot;city&amp;quot;. However, the scale at which they could plausibly house enough humans, &#039;&#039;let alone&#039;&#039; Transformers to be in any way reasonably defined as a &amp;quot;city&amp;quot; would suggest a robot-mode scale that would make [[Hojoni|Godzilla]] look like a gecko. No fiction to date, not even the very large depictions in the Japanese &#039;&#039;[[Headmasters (cartoon)|Headmasters]]&#039;&#039; cartoon, even &#039;&#039;begins&#039;&#039; to approximate the size that a true &amp;quot;citybot&amp;quot; would logically become. In reality, the grossly-undersized depiction of [[Unicron]] (see below) would probably be closer to the scale of an actual transformed city. Which is ironic, as in Season 3 of the [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|G1 cartoon]] Unicron requires citybot eyes to replace his own shattered ones. That&#039;s right, citybot eyes fit a &#039;&#039;planet&#039;&#039;bot. Explain that one...&lt;br /&gt;
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Rare examples which even suggest such a realistic city scale include occasional Japanese promotional art (e.g. see left).&lt;br /&gt;
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Furthermore, there is virtually no way to reconcile the &amp;quot;city&amp;quot; altmodes of the actual toys with any believable use of the term. Using windows as even a vague scale, they would hardly qualify as a city &#039;&#039;block&#039;&#039;. The cartoon episode &#039;&#039;[[Thief in the Night]]&#039;&#039; makes some headway in explaining this via an establishing shot that shows Metroplex to be only a small smaller sub-section of the &amp;quot;actual&amp;quot; Autobot City, although this was not repeated. It seems that in Transformer terms, &amp;quot;city&amp;quot; is better read as &amp;quot;large building&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Although little fiction to date has significantly featured the Headmaster leaders fulfilling their &amp;quot;city&amp;quot; roles, they have in the Japanese-exclusive cartoons been employed in their tertiary modes as massive starships capable of transporting and housing many normal-sized transformers. Conversely, the Marvel [[Generation 1 (comic)|G1 comic]] depicted Fort Max and Scorpy as merely &amp;quot;large-standard&amp;quot; size characters, of an equal height to Powermaster Optimus Prime and, in some UK issues, even the same as Rodimus Prime (to be fair, Powermaster Prime was often drawn &amp;quot;undersized&amp;quot; in the comics). Parts of &#039;&#039;[[Time Wars]]&#039;&#039; were notable in this department for featuring characters as diverse as [[Goldbug]], Fortress Maximus and [[Blaster]] as all being the &#039;&#039;exact&#039;&#039; same height.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Planets ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Cybertronplanet.jpg|left|thumb|Those are some mondo gigantically big buildings...and a mondo gigantically big gash.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Scale when it comes to planets is almost so fraught it&#039;s actively painful. The logic problems of describing citybots as &amp;quot;cities&amp;quot; is a thousand times worse if [[Unicron]] is supposed to have a planet-sized altmode, and that Cybertron is in turn supposed to be in scale with him. Although different fictions have compared both [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]/[[Primus]] and Unicron to drastically different Sol-system planets, the fact remains that they are supposed to be &#039;&#039;planets&#039;&#039;, and yet across most fictions they are shown in such insane scale-relation to characters that it would suggest they are barely the size of a very, very small moon (or a space station).&lt;br /&gt;
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To start with, [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] itself was depicted throughout G1 as having buildings visible from space. Although this was clearly intended to make it immediately obvious that the planet was entirely technological in nature, it actually makes no sense whatsoever, as such structures would have to be the size of small continents to actually be visible from such a distance. If the buildings were in fact supposed to be Transformers-scale skyscrapers (or even 2000 A.D. style mega-bocks), Cybertron would therefore be barely a fraction the size of Earth&#039;s [[Moon (moon)|Moon]]. By comparison, the rather [http://www.starwars.com/databank/location/coruscant/index.html Coruscant]-like orbit-views of Cybertron in the &#039;&#039;[[Beast Machines (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]&#039;&#039; cartoon  may be less distinctive or recognizably &amp;quot;Cybertronian&amp;quot;, but are &#039;&#039;far&#039;&#039; more believable.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:UnicronEatsGalvyMmmm.jpg|right|thumb|400px|Either Galvy is humungo, or Lithone is &#039;&#039;tiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnyyyyy!!!&#039;&#039;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Unicron, however, is a much more extreme problem. If one presumes that no obvious [[size changing]] occurs during his transformation (and really, why would he want to become &#039;&#039;smaller&#039;&#039;?), he would be so massive that any shot that features even a &#039;&#039;part&#039;&#039; of his body, let alone the whole thing, would be of such a scale that no normal Transformer, however massive, would even be visible in the same frame. His depiction in the  &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers: The Movie (1986)|The Transformers: The Movie]]&#039;&#039; in which he directly interacts with normal-sized Cybertronian characters is blatantly absurd (regardless of how totally phat it looks). Shots such as the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] fleeing his grasping hand, a starship penetrating his eye or &#039;&#039;especially&#039;&#039; picking up Galvatron between his thumb and forefinger before swallowing him (or, similarly in the comic, impaling [[Brainstorm (G1)|Brainstorm]] on his fingernail before crunching him between his teeth) bend any concept of plausible scale beyond breaking point. If Unicron is the size of a planet, his hands would be the size of continents. This would make Galvatron the size of Great Britain.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no possible explanation for any of this. Just go with it.&lt;br /&gt;
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The depiction of Unicron&#039;s scale in &#039;&#039;[[Armada]]&#039;&#039; was (very debatably) a slight improvement, at least in as much as the concept of physical interaction (or much bodily movement for that matter) with such tiny beings was not even attempted, preferring instead to communicate with normal Transformers by possessing [[Sideways|another body]] in their own scale. Nevertheless, shots featuring [[Thrust (Armada)|Thrust]] and [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] standing on his neck region are still &#039;&#039;farcically&#039;&#039; out of scale.&lt;br /&gt;
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== &#039;&#039;Beast Era&#039;&#039; scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RattrapLOVEScheetor.jpg|thumb|250px|right|I&#039;m tellin&#039; ya, &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; da rats in Brooklyn are dis big!]]&lt;br /&gt;
In the &#039;&#039;[[Beast Era]]&#039;&#039; scale is not such a large issue, although it certainly does crop up in less obvious (depending on your point of view) ways. &lt;br /&gt;
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=== Real world scale ===&lt;br /&gt;
Although the Beast Warriors all seem to exist quite happily in their own relative scale, their scale in relation to the real-world animals they have adopted as [[altmode]]s is more problematic. While the &amp;quot;giant insect&amp;quot; characters such as [[Waspinator]] and [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]] are obviously not in real world scale, when considered carefully virtually none of the characters actually are. The only characters who have been clearly depicted interacting with real members of their adopted species are [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] and [[Tigatron]], who (to take the former example) is seen attempting to interact with other cheetahs in &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars, Part 1]]&#039;&#039;, who react in fright. Cheetor was shown here to be in the same scale as real cheetahs, which effectively makes him the measuring stick for all other characters. [[Rattrap]] is therefore obviously a monstrously huge rat, about the size of a large dog, [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] is a rather small rhinoceros, and [[Optimus Primal]] is probably a roughly normal-sized gorilla. However, [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] is therefore an positively dwarfish specimen of a &#039;&#039;Tyrannosaurus rex,&#039;&#039; possibly closer to a [[Wikipedia: Nanotyrannus|Nanotyrannus]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039; writers once noted that first-season Rattrap was five feet (1.5 metres) tall, and that the other characters can be scaled around that. This would make Rattrap one of the few Transformers who are &#039;&#039;shorter&#039;&#039; than the average adult human in robot mode.&lt;br /&gt;
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In their few interactions with (adult) protohumans, the Cybertronian characters seem between twice and three times the average height of protohumans.  Considering human ancestors really were smaller than modern humans, this scale issue is not as extreme as it may appear, but the point deserves addressing.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Scale relative to G1 ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Beastwarriors scale.jpg|thumb|left|Beast Megatron&#039;s size vs. Optimus Prime in America... and Japan. I guess the Blastizone adds on a few tons to [[Beast Era]] characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Size changing]] appears to be a thing of the past by the Beast Era, as the majority of the Cybertronian race seems to have considerably downgraded in size, apparently due to the [[Maximal Upgrade]] Program (although this is of course a backwards rationalization, since the show&#039;s basic premise requires the characters to transform into (vaguely) normal-sized animals, compared to the G1 characters transforming into large vehicles etc.). When entering the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], the Beast Warriors are very small compared to the dormant G1 characters, especially [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. They are roughly the size humans should be (but usually weren&#039;t) depicted in relation to these characters.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the other hand &#039;&#039;[[Robot Masters]]&#039;&#039; depicted G1 and BW characters like [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Optimus Primal]] as being exactly the same size. Yup. It&#039;s possible that passage through the [[Blasty Zone]] may somehow [[Wikipedia:Boom tube#Later Additions to the Concept|account for this discrepancy]], &lt;br /&gt;
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=== Toy scale vs. cartoon scale ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Beastwarsmaxgroup.jpg|right|thumb|350px|Pick the Ultra-class figure.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The first season&#039;s cast of &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars |Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039; characters were not designed in the same relative scale to each other as depicted in the toyline, although from Season 2 onwards the scales (and general toy-accuracy) of the cartoon became much more consistent with the toys.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, of the Season 1 Maximal crew, [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]], Cheetor, [[Tigatron (BW)|Tigatron]] and Rhinox are all from the same deluxe [[size class]], while [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]] and Rattrap are considerably smaller basics. Optimus Primal, an ultra, stands at virtually twice the size of the deluxes. In the show, Dinobot is the tallest, followed by Rhinox and a slightly shorter Optimus Primal, shorter again is Tigatron, while shorter still is Cheetor (despite being an identical mold) and Airazor, while Rattrap is marginally the shortest, but by no means to such a degree as his toy would suggest.&lt;br /&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;[[Beast Machines (toyline)|Beast Machines]]&#039;&#039;&#039; toyline was far worse in terms of scale discrepancies with its cartoon, with the tallest character [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)|Silverbolt]] becoming the shortest ([[micro-continuity|show-featured]]) Maximal toy, and similarly the massive [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]] was reduced to a tiny basic-class (well, in Japan anyway, but the Tank Drones that his BWR toy was redecoed from were supposed to be the same size anyway). And, sadly, the most show-accurate toy in the line (well, &#039;&#039;sorta&#039;&#039; in the line...) &amp;quot;Air Attack [[Optimus Primal]]&amp;quot; was rendered as an enormous supreme figure, completely incompatible with the other toys.&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/6db411e03e75a342?dmode=source Estimated &amp;quot;real-life&amp;quot; heights for several Transformers, derived from the size of their alt-modes, archived from alt.toys.transformers on groups.google.com]&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Rail Racer is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Robots in Disguise]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Rail Racer-anim.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Train, train, take me on out of this town....]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Rail Racer&#039;&#039;&#039; is the combined form of [[Team Bullet Train]].  He&#039;s basically kickass and you can&#039;t hope to beat him.&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Japanese name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;JRX&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039; cartoon===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor&#039;&#039;: [[David Lodge]] (US), ??? (Japan)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Robots in Disguise===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;JRX&#039;&#039;&#039; (Multi-pack, 2000)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;C-015&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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: Rail Racer combines [[Railspike (RID)|Railspike]], [[Midnight Express (RID)|Midnight Express]] and [[Rapid Run (RID)|Rapid Run]] into one colossal robot.    He carries Rapid Run&#039;s shield/launcher as well as a large cannon formed from both Railspike and Midnight Express&#039; weapons. Rail Racer (or rather, JRX) could be assembled by buying the three individual Bullet Trains, though all three members of Team Bullet Train were also available in a complete box set in Japan.&lt;br /&gt;
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: There are significant differences between the [[Takara]] and [[Hasbro]] versions of Rail Racer.  The Takara version has several portions cast in transparent plastic to give him clear windows, requiring extensive [[paint application]]s to blend in.  The Hasbro version released in 2001 replaced the transparent plastics with opaques to cut back on the number of needed paint applications.  There were also several smaller changes made to the individual components (detailed on their individual pages).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* The Takara versions of the Bullet Trains appear to have had a particularly bad run of quality control regarding the paint applications, with many having sloppily-applied decos.  While the individually-packaged Bullet Trains came in clear-window packages to see the toys, the box set was completely windowless, so it was kind of a crap shoot as to the quality of paint you got with the set.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Reportedly, the Bullet Trains, which were developed with Takara&#039;s very flexible pricing structure, really did not fit into Hasbro&#039;s more rigid existing price-points, budget-wise.  They cost too much to be sold as Deluxes, but weren&#039;t really up to Mega-costs.&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.tfu.info/2001/Autobot/RailRacer/railracer.htm Rail Racer at TFU.info]&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;The Dinobots are an [[Autobot]] [[subgroup]] in [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].  In some continuities, before they arrive on Earth, they are known as the &#039;&#039;&#039;Dynobots&#039;&#039;&#039;.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:DinobotDreamwave1.jpg|right|400px|thumb|Call them the  boy-band of the Autobots and prepare for a world of pain - from left to right: Sludge, Grimlock, Swoop, Slag and Snarl]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;&#039;Dinobots&#039;&#039;&#039; are a rowdy, arrogant, low-brow, disobedient band of warriors that some Autobots would rather scrap than deal with. They&#039;re also one of the most devastatingly powerful and close-knit combat units in the Autobot army.&lt;br /&gt;
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The group&#039;s members are:&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] (the leader)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Slag (G1)|Slag]] (the bad boy)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]] (the himbo)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]] (the quiet one)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]] (the sensetive one)&lt;br /&gt;
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=Fiction=&lt;br /&gt;
===Animated continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:DinobotsG1.jpg|center|400px|thumb|From left to right: Terrible Dactyl, Stego, Bronto Thunder, Tricero and Ghengis Rex]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Built on [[Earth]] by [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] and [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]], the Dinobots are a subgroup of Autobots with great physical power, but very limited intelligence. They were modeled after the Dinosaur fossils that [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] found in the volcanic caves near the [[Ark]]. Initially only three were built (Grimlock, Slag, and Sludge) in the episode &amp;quot;[[S.O.S. Dinobots]]&amp;quot;, but two others (Snarl and Swoop) were added in the episode &amp;quot;[[War of the Dinobots]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is unclear how to interpret this origin in concert with the idea, established later in the cartoon series, that new Transformers are granted life by the super computer [[Vector Sigma]].  Although slow-witted, the Dinobots give every indication of being fully &amp;quot;alive&amp;quot;, sapient beings. Some fans suggest that [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] used the Matrix to give them life, but this is not supported by canon, particularly since in this continuity he carries the [[Matrix of Leadership]], which was never shown to have the life-granting powers of the [[Creation Matrix]] until it was [[retcon]]ned by Beast Era fiction.  Retroactively, it can be guessed that the Matrix may have been involved, but when the G1 cartoon is viewed in isolation, there is something amiss.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Marvel Comics continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
The Dinobots in the comic were not created on Earth, but were a distinct and pre-existing unit of five Autobot soldiers that were aboard the Ark when it crashed to Earth. The comic Dinobots, while not exactly [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]]-grade, were signifigantly more intelligent than their cartoon counterparts.  (Their commander, Grimlock, served as overall Autobot Commander on more than one occasion.)However, the not as strong as their cartoon counterparts either. Shortly after the crash the Ark&#039;s computer detected [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] landing on the planet in the [[Antarctica|Antarctic]] land-out-of-time that would one day become known as the [[Savage Land]]. The Ark used the last of its capabilities to revive these five warriors and rebuild them to transform into the Savage Land&#039;s dominant lifeform: dinosaurs. They were then dispatched to deal with the Decepticon, where they sank to the bottom of a tar pit and remained dormant until [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] revived them in the 1980s.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Dreamwave Comics continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ScrollDinobots.jpg|right|200px|thumb|A Dinobot by any other name would still kick your ass ]]&lt;br /&gt;
It was established that Grimlock once commanded a splinter-faction of Autobots known as the [[Lightning Strike Coalition]], that included the pre-Dinobots. It was also established that following this, these five robots used the Cybertronic designation &amp;quot;Dynobots.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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The Dynobots travelled to earth seperate from the rest of the Autobots. Grimlock emerged on his own, and the Ark Autobots found him battling the [[Insecticons]]. The fate of the other Dinobots was unknown, but somehow Megatron had captured them and kept them in stasis in a secret base. After freeing them they travelled to Cybertron and helped liberate it from Shockwave&#039;s control.&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; anthology===&lt;br /&gt;
The story &amp;quot;Paddles&amp;quot; features a sixth Dinobot of the [[Paddles (G1)|same name]]. This is also the only appearance of the character.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== IDW Comics continuity ===&lt;br /&gt;
From the [[Spotlight: Shockwave]] story:&lt;br /&gt;
In a similar fashion to the Marvel and Dreamwave continuity, the Dynobots followed [[Shockwave]] to Earth on a revenge-fueled crusade. After engaging the Decepticon on Prehistoric Earth in their new dinosaurian beast-modes, The battle ended with the six robots buried in molten lava. They were later unearthed by a human archaelogical dig {{storylink|Spotlight: Shockwave}} which was taken over by government agents {{storylink| Escalation, Issue 5}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:382px-Dinobots-spotlight.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Dinobots. Now with skin.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category: Generation 1]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Generation 2]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Overhaul_(Cybertron)&amp;diff=41104</id>
		<title>Overhaul (Cybertron)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;{{disambig2|the Cybertron-series Autobot|the Generation 1 War Within Autobot|Overhaul (G1)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Overhaul is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]] portion of the [[Unicron Trilogy]]. Upon recieving a new body, he took the name &#039;&#039;&#039;Leobreaker&#039;&#039;&#039;.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Map-Leobreaker01.jpg|thumb|300px|right|Let&#039;s lionize, guys!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Overhaul&#039;&#039;&#039; is an elder Autobot warrior, having fought alongside [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] during the [[Unicron Battles]] and [[Powerlinx Battles]], and likely before that, as well.  He is gruff and oftentimes confrontational, but exceptionally loyal to the Autobot cause.  He says he prefers to work alone, but knows deep down the value of friendship and teamwork.&lt;br /&gt;
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As &#039;&#039;&#039;Leobreaker&#039;&#039;&#039;, his gung-ho attitude is heavily amplified, but he&#039;s no longer so independent-minded.  He&#039;s become fast friends with [[Snarl (Cybertron)|Snarl]] of the [[Jungle Planet]], and has even gained his own [[Platinum Mini-Cons|personal Mini-Con attendants]].  He&#039;s even taken a shining to [[Earth]] team sports like baseball, possibly as a replacement for war.  This new focus on teamwork does have its downside; he harbors a litlte bit of resentment that his &amp;quot;Savage Claw Mode&amp;quot; combination with Optimus might not be as strong as the &amp;quot;Sonic Wing Mode&amp;quot; the Autobot leader can form with [[Wing Saber]].&lt;br /&gt;
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He is the cousin of the [[Decepticon]] [[Brushguard]].&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Japanese name:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Jackshot / Ligerjack&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===Animated continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
====&#039;&#039;Cybertron&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Paul Dobson]] (US), ??? (Japan)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Special attacks:&#039;&#039; Anchor Shot, Platinum Claw, Ultra Liger Drop&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:CybOverhaul.jpg|200px|left|thumb|Who thought &amp;quot;Jackshot&amp;quot; was a good idea? No, seriously. Who?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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During a battle for the [[Cyber Planet Key]]s with the Decepticons, [[Optimus Prime (UT)|Optimus Prime]] intended to send Overhaul and [[Landmine (Energon)|Landmine]] to the [[Jungle Planet]].  However, an attack by the Decepticons disrupted [[Vector Prime|Vector Prime&#039;s]] gateway portal and Overhaul was left on Jungle Planet alone.  There he became embroiled in the power struggle between [[Snarl (Cybertron)|Snarl]], Snarl&#039;s mentor [[Backstop]], and the Jungle Planet&#039;s brutal tyrant [[Scourge (Cybertron)|Scourge]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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He trained hard, but could not best Scourge at single combat even after building up a tolerance to his flame breath.  He sought training from Backstop and Snarl, and eventually invoked the spirit of the world, finding himself transformed into the mega-feline Leobreaker.&lt;br /&gt;
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When Scourge challenges Optimus to a match for control of the planet, they go mano a mano, just Optimus and Scourge... and Leobreaker lending Prime the phenomenal power of Savage Claw mode as his arm. Nobody mentions whether or not this is cheating. However, due to Scourge&#039;s &amp;quot;take on all challengers&amp;quot; attitude, he probably didn&#039;t have a problem with it.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Cybertron===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Overhaul_toy.jpg|left|thumb|250px|My arms really suck.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Overhaul&#039;&#039;&#039; (Scout class, 2005)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;GC-05&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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: Overhaul transforms into an off-road vehicle similar to a Humvee.  Plugging a [[Cyber Planet Key]] into his robot mode back launches his chest-mounted missile (you can do this in car mode too, but the missile is blocked).  In Japan, he came with a silver-bordered [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] Cyber Planet Key, but for his [[Hasbro]] release he came with a silver Jungle Planet style key, with the [[Cyber Key Codes|Key Code]] &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;s9d7&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; on the back. There are rumors that a later release of the Japanese version was changed to a Jungle key, but this has not been confirmed.&lt;br /&gt;
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: This mold is also used by [[Brushguard]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Leobreaker_toy.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Another $13 and my arms still suck.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Leobreaker&#039;&#039;&#039; (Voyager-class, 2005)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;GC-16&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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: His Japanese version transforms into a liger, even though the American version is called a lion.&lt;br /&gt;
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: This mold is also used by [[Nemesis Breaker]].  It is also the visual model for the comic-only form of [[Generation 1]] [[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]] in the [[Beast Era]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Leobreaker&#039;&#039;&#039; (Legends of Cybertron, 2005)&lt;br /&gt;
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: This toy is a simplified version of the Leobreaker toy. Needless to say, it cannot combine with Optimus Prime.&lt;br /&gt;
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: This mold is also used by &#039;&#039;[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]&#039;&#039; [[Leo Prime]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Attacktix===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Overhaul&#039;&#039;&#039; (Starter Set, 2006)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Attacktix ID number&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;TF19&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Leobreakerearly.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Look, ma, a hand!]]&lt;br /&gt;
* The original plans for Leobreaker involved a more coherent Savage Claw Mode arm design, complete with fingers and thumbs.  But a variety of factors resulted in the simplified form, including rising petroleum prices.  &lt;br /&gt;
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* Additionally, one of the early prototypes featured a faux-SUV chest for Leobreaker, probably to link him more closely to his first body.  Like the previously-listed changes, this was likely removed to lower the production cost -- or possibly it was discarded for other reasons.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The television CGI model of Leobreaker used during the combiner sequence animation, as well as the representation of the combined arm mode is based upon a modified version of one of the original prototypes of Leobreaker, who, as mentioned above, had a much more complex and believable &#039;arm-mode&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Originally, Overhaul was going to be called &#039;&#039;&#039;Trailbreaker&#039;&#039;&#039;, in reference to the Generation 1 character [[Trailbreaker|of the same name]]. However, the [[trademark]] could not be secured for this, resulting in the name-change. &lt;br /&gt;
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* In a related tidbit, the original naming idea was apparently to go from Trailbreaker to Leobreaker. When they couldn&#039;t get Trailbreaker, it seems Hasbro considered naming Overhaul&#039;s lion form &#039;&#039;Overcast&#039;&#039;, as that name is listed as Leobreaker&#039;s American name in the [[Galaxy Force Phase Ignition]] guidebook. However, they ultimately kept the name Leobreaker.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The combination sequence between Galaxy Convoy and Leo Breaker is a reference to the combination of Goldymarg and GaoGaiGar in the anime The King of Braves GaoGaiGar.&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Autobot/Overhaul/overhaul.htm Overhaul at TFU.info]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category: Attacktix]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category: Jungle Planet]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Breastforce</title>
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;The Breastforce are a [[Decepticon]] subgroup from the [[Victory (franchise)|Victory]] portion of [[Generation 1]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;&#039;Breastforce&#039;&#039;&#039; (tee hee!) are [[Deathsaurus]]&#039; elite troopers, and next to the [[Dinoforce]], his &#039;&#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039;&#039; troopers.  The Breastforce are comprised of some of the most vile Decepticons imaginable, from murderous back-stabbers to incarcerated convicts.  Each one has an animal partner formed from their breastplate  armor (hence the team name) that can act as an autonomous fighting unit or hand-held blaster. Don&#039;t let the name fool you, the Breastforce are nothing to laugh at.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Breastforce consist of:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Deathsaurus]], the [[Emperor of Destruction]] and dragon-thing.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Leozack]], Deathsaurus&#039; second-in-command and Grumman F-14D &amp;quot;Tomcat&amp;quot; fighter jet.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Drillhorn]], the tunnelling machine.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gaihawk]], the MAPO MiG-29 &amp;quot;Fulcrum&amp;quot; fighter jet.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hellbat]], the Dassault Rafale fighter jet.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jarugar]], the Baja buggy.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Killbison]], the Gepard anti-aircraft tank.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Deathcobra]], the Mi-24 Hind assault helicopter.&lt;br /&gt;
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Leozack, Drillhorn, Gaihawk, Hellbat, Jarugar and Killbison can combine to form the warrior [[Liokaiser]]. (Deathcobra had the capability, but was never able to utilize it.)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===Victory cartoon===&lt;br /&gt;
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===Victory manga===&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
*The Breastforce team name was consistently misanglicized as &amp;quot;Brestforce&amp;quot; on every English instance of the name on packaging and tech spec materials.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category: Decepticons]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Jazz (Movie)</title>
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		<updated>2007-07-05T21:45:04Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;{{disambig2|the Autobot hipster from the live action movie|the original &#039;&#039;cool cat&#039;&#039;|Jazz (G1)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Jazz is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Movie (franchise)|Movie]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:MovieJazz_promorender.jpg|right|thumb|350px|&amp;quot;Slide with me, just bounce with me, now freeze.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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First Lieutenant &#039;&#039;&#039;Jazz&#039;&#039;&#039; is one happy-go-lucky Autobot. Good-natured and always able to take things in his stride, he provides a decent contrast to the more serious demeanour of [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] or [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Prime]] himself. He&#039;s also a talker, something Ironhide and Prime like to tease him about. He might be the smallest Autobot but he&#039;s by no means a coward. His only real complaint is that he gets stuck fighting the small ones.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Ghosts Of Yesterday===&lt;br /&gt;
Onboard the Ark, Jazz was the first to detect the &#039;&#039;[[Ghost 1]]&#039;s&#039;&#039; presence, and was later badly damaged in a fight with the Decepticons. After being repaired, he and [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] fought together against [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; (2007) film===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Darius McCrary]] (English)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{spoiler}}&lt;br /&gt;
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He had to...split.  He gets trapped by Megatron (under his gigantic metallic feet) and has... words with Megatron, so Megatron sorta kinda rips him into multiple pieces.  But no worries, according to some product detail about an upcoming deluxe class repaint of Jazz, [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] rebuilds him and gives him a [[G1]] like paint job. Then he probably disappears before the next movie.&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus wasn&#039;t really shocked by the death of Jazz. He just won&#039;t party after the fight.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Don&#039;t kick the baby.JPG|left|thumb|200px|&amp;quot;Don&#039;t kick the baby!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers (2007)===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Autobot Jazz&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;MA-04&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jazzmovietoydeluxe.jpg|right|thumb|200px|&amp;quot;Just wait. They&#039;ll do me in G1 colors soon...&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Jazz transforms into a silver [[wikipedia:Pontiac_Solstice|Pontiac Solstice]] Custom Hardtop. Included is a blaster weapon that elongates into a sniper rifle, which may also be clipped directly onto his rear spoiler when in vehicle mode. In robot mode, the section featuring this same rear spoiler may be kept folded onto his back or worn on either shoulder as a shield. An interesting undocumented feature is a hinge joint located on the bottom of the rifle can attach to the &#039;&#039;shield&#039;s&#039;&#039; hinge joint, creating three choice weapon configurations: &#039;&#039;(a)&#039;&#039; a mounted long range sniper rifle, &#039;&#039;(b)&#039;&#039; an ambidextrous shoulder-mounted canon, or &#039;&#039;(c)&#039;&#039; a short range blaster with built-in shield somewhat akin to what has been seen in Jazz&#039;s concept art and in the movie itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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: As with most of the mainline toys, he features a [[Automorph]]ing gimmick that is activated by pushing the car roof down onto his back and locking it into place. This raises his head and slides his chest panels into proper position for the robot mode. This feature, like the weaponry mentioned above, is not documented at all, so one must be careful to not press the chest &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; the back at the same time.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Autobot Jazz&#039;&#039;&#039; (Legends, 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Movie_Legends_Jazz_toy.jpg|left|thumb|180px|&amp;quot;WhY my BuMPers hURt?&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: A much smaller version of the character, Legends Jazz features limited articulation and detail, along with a much simpler transformation. A rather glaring side-effect of this transformation and a desire to mimic the hood chest of the larger toy is the addition of a second front bumper on the roof of his alt-mode. If this means Jazz also includes a second engine to go with this front bumper or an attempt at compensation for a case of [[Barricade (Movie)|police bar envy]] is unknown.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Final Battle Jazz&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;MA-14&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Movie_FinalBattleJazz_toy.jpg|thumb|right|250px|&amp;quot;Owie....&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: An extensive retool of Jazz, modifying most of his legs to give them a broken, battle-scarred appearance. Amusingly, because Hasbro chose to keep his vehicle mode prestine, nearly the rest of his body is undamaged. The damaged parts and his head have a black and blue deco, representing exposed circuitry and glowing conduits.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Jazz comes with a brand new spring-loaded gattling cannon weapon (called a quagma cannon on the packaging), modeled after the actual weapon the CGI model of Jazz appears with. It can fire a transparent blue projectile and like his original weapon, can be mounted in several configurations: &#039;&#039;(a)&#039;&#039; Mounted on his right arm with the gattling cannon/launcher facing forward as he appears in most promotional material, and &#039;&#039;(b)&#039;&#039; mounted on his left arm with the flip-out long rifle barrel pointed forwards.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Usually for a regular Deluxe figure, Jazz is packed in his card in robot mode, no doubt to highlight the changes to the figure that would not be visible in vehicle mode.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Autobot Jazz (Repaint)&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Movie_G1Jazz_toy.jpg|left|thumb|220px|&amp;quot;...&#039;&#039;real&#039;&#039; soon.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: An extensive [[redeco]] of Deluxe class Jazz, this Target-[[exclusive]] has a colour and paint deco based heavily upon &#039;&#039;Generation 1&#039;&#039; [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz&#039;s]] Martini Racing scheme, though he is lacking in Martini sponsorship for obvious reasons, replacing them with his own name. Disco Jazz doesn&#039;t need to advertise really, but he does.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Fast Action Battlers====&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Ion Blast Autobot Jazz&#039;&#039;&#039; (2007)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Movie_FAB_Jazz.jpg|right|thumb|&amp;quot;What good am I again?&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Smaller than his Deluxe toy and less articulated, this one has a missile in place of one hand. Who knew Jazz was a lefty?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Robot Replicas====&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Autobot Jazz&#039;&#039;&#039; (2007)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Movie_RobotReplicas_Jazz.jpg|left|thumb|120px| &amp;quot;My hand picks up XM.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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====Titanium Series====&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Autobot Jazz&#039;&#039;&#039; (Robot Master, 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
*The packaging text for the deluxe Jazz figure refers to his weapon as a &amp;quot;telescoping sword&amp;quot;. As ridiculous as this sounds considering this weapon &#039;&#039;looks&#039;&#039; like a firearm, this very idea comes from sketches of a sword weapon featured on the same concept art that has Jazz showcasing the short range blaster/shield combination stated above. Way to compensate text-writing guy!&lt;br /&gt;
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