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Talk:Darksyde (BW)

2006-07-11T03:57:50Z

71.109.91.2:

I've decided on the fan-theory that Terrorsaur named the Predacon ship "The Darkside" himself. Nobody else uses this name, or likes it. When he constantly calls it "The Darkside" all dramatic-like, Megatron rolls his eyes. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:57, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
: Btw, that was just me thinking out loud. I'm not, uh, proposing that be added or anything. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

It is called the Darkside in the episode blurbs for Equal Measures and Spider's Game in the episode guide for the season 1 Box set. I don't know how much weight that carries, but it is there.[[User:Tantrum|Tantrum]]
: Why... so it does. Huzzah! Man. Why wasn't the toy called that? Lame Hasbro! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:56, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

==Darkside/Darksyde==

It's the Darksyde now, according to BotCon, the article needs changing.
: Only the BotCon set calls it "Darksyde", where as the game and DVDs call it "Darkside", so I think it would be cast to handle it like "Tarantulas" vs "Tarantulus", with the original spelling having the article, and the new spelling being a redirect. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 15:06, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
::Still, one could argue that the Botcon set are actually toys while the game and DVDs are "secondary sources" (albeit official ones). That would give "Darksyde" primacy despite being a later version of the name.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 16:58, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

I, personally, think that Darksyde with a y should be used, but I think that using "Darkside" and having "Darksyde" redirect would be acceptable otherwise. I've added a note about the different spelling towards the bottom of the page. [[User:Amadeus|Amadeus]] 19:00, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

I think the article should be moved to "Darksyde," as much I dislike that spelling. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 20:10, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

:I'm with Kil.

*This is not a new, changed name, we are to understand that this had always been the name, it's just having its official spelling declaeed now, much as was the case witht he Elita 1 model kit years after the fact, or Paradron.

*Other sources are 'we sounded out the spelling from the TV show,a nd this is hwo we think it's spelled.' Legitimacy for their spelling comes from the show, not the author of the DVD summaries. This spelling does not come from the show- the spelling comes from viewers of the show.

*This toy packaging is the first source to declare a spelling on the basis of its own authority to do so.

*Fundamentally, the LACK of a name on the Predacon Ship with BW10 Megatron, followed months later by the first OFFICIAL name boosts Darksyde's legitimacy considerably. Darkside, despite having been in rottion sicne 1999 in Game booklets and such was not, in Hasbro's opinion, official enough to make it onto the toy. (or at least nto Copywritten renough, whatever.)

Finally-

* We've never gotten ANYTHING from Hasbro with 'Darkside' as a spelling.

It's nto elevatign a new spelling over the old so much as- I dont' think it ever HAD an old official spelling. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:08, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

:Well, we've got the "Equal Measures" script itself on Ben Yee's website.

::''31. angle on console''

::''as the smoke clears, revealing Cheetor (robot mode) standing there on the console, looking bewildered.''

::''cheetor(r)''
::''Whoa, what's new, pussycat? Did I get fried? Is this...?''

::''Terrorsaur rises menacingly into FG. terrorsaur(b) (low, evil chuckle)''
::''Welcome to the dark side! (yells) Terrorsaur - TERRORIZE! (SCREECH!)''

:According to Pete Sinclair, he submitted the name as "Darksyde" to avoid possible trademark infringement with George Lucas, without even trying for "Darkside"; granted, so far as I know trademarks, if they couldn't get "Darkside", there's no way they could have gotten "Darksyde" either - for the same reason we don't have knockoff "Spyder-Man" toys floating around. Still, this is a digression on my part.

:I would call this situation fundamentally different from the Elita-1/Paradron situation because people made up spellings for those two without having access to the scripts. We HAVE access to the Equal Measures script - it's just that "Darkside" was never supposed to be the ship's name in the FIRST PLACE. But it is ''now'', so I can only complain so much.

:As to the actual matter of what to call the article... I'm not sure. I'll have to think about it some more. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 01:23, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm kind of confused as to why some people are considering Botcon material more weighty than an equally-officially-licensed video game. In both cases it's simply a matter of "some guy" writing the name the way he felt like writing it and then having Hasbro stamp it because they don't care. If it were a toy directly from Hasbro rather than a convention exclusive, I could see it holding more weight, but... it's not. I see no reason at all to move the article to the new spelling, although a redirect should definitely be there. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 16:53, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
:Although no one else has used ''quite'' the same reasoning as I have, I think what I alluded to earlier (i.e., the Botcon toys are ''toys'' as opposed to other kinds of merchandise. In case of conflict, toys should be given primacy, since Transformers are, after all, toys.) should carry some weight.--[[User:71.109.91.2|71.109.91.2]] 03:57, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I think it holds more weight because this is the spelling likely to dominate in any future releases/references.
I guess we can wait and see what the BW MtMtE uses.-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:06, 11 July 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:G.I. Joe (team)

2006-06-09T13:33:54Z

71.109.91.2:

We're not really going to do entries for ''all'' of these Joe characters, are we? I mean, I can see a few being justified, but this seems like an awful lot of links....--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 22:57, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

:Eventually, why not? They've appeared in Transformers comics. I mean, we have pages for Spider-Man, US1, and that big fire-snortin' lizard... - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] 23:18, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
::I'm not opposed to it, per se. If someone really wants to do all those entries, go right ahead. Just seems unnecessary.--[[User:71.109.91.2|71.109.91.2]] 13:33, 9 June 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Broken Glass!

2006-04-26T14:26:27Z

71.109.91.2: /* Errors */ Added further bit, that Galen's transformed head appears to be the animation model of Cerebros.

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'''While the Autobots seek to prove their peaceful intentions to the Nebulans, Zarak summons the Decepticons.'''

=Headmasters issue #2=
''(Story also appears in: Marvel UK issues #134-137)''

'''Script:''' [[Bob Budiansky]] <br>
'''Pencils:''' [[Frank Springer]]<br>
'''Inks:''' [[Ian Akin]] & [[Brian Garvey]]<br>
'''Lettering:''' [[Pat Brosseau]]<br>
'''Colors:''' [[Nelson Yomtov]]<br>
'''Editor:''' [[Don Daley]]<br>

*''Major characters (in order of appearance):'' [[Spasma]], [[Galen]], [[Duros]], [[Lord Zarak]], [[Krunk]], [[Grax]], [[Vorath]], [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]], [[Gort]], [[Kup (G1)|Kup]], [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]], [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], [[Slugslinger (G1)|Slugslinger]], [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]], [[Snapdragon (G1)|Snapdragon]], [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]], [[Skullcruncher (G1)|Skullcruncher]], [[Arcana]], [[Stylor]], [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]], [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]], [[Highbrow (G1)|Highbrow]], [[Brainstorm (G1)|Brainstorm]]
*''Originally published:'' September, 1987

==Synopsis==
The presence of giant robots threatens the 10,000-year peace of the planet Nebulos, as the citizens gather in protest demonstrations, and Galen, a member of the ruling "Council of Peers" on Nebulos, looks for a solution to the escalating tensions. Lord Zarak, a rival member of the council, seeks to use the situation to further his own political position, and sends a message to Cybertron to seek the help of the Decepticons in ridding Nebulos of the Autobots. The Decepticons arrive and quickly attack a major city in hopes of getting the citizens of Nebulos to surrender the Autobots to them. Realizing that they have no choice but to fight back, but unwilling to hand over control of their destinies to the Autobots, a group of Nebulans binary-bond with the Autobots who had sacrificed their heads earlier. These five Nebulans are bio-engineered to actually become the heads of the captive Autobots, creating the first Headmasters. While the Nebulans control the Autobots' bodies, the original Autobots maintain contact with the Nebulans they now carry, and the result is a group of highly effective warriors, which quickly dispatch the attacking Decepticons. Unfortunately, the Nebulans find themselves in danger of becoming the very kind of warriors they had hoped to avoid introducing to their peaceful world.

==Errors==
*Fortress Maximus' 'new' head (ie, Galen transformed) originally looks very different to his original head. It appears to be based on the animation model for Cerebros. It will switch indiscriminately between the two designs as the series goes on, though.

==Items of note==
*Advertised as part 2 in a 4-issue limited series.
*Although it is explained that the Nebulans turn into heads that only ''resemble'' the original heads of the Headmaster Autobots, and that the original heads maintain radio contact with their Nebulan partners, the original miniseries never mentions what becomes of the original heads. However, a story in the 1987 UK Annual, showed that Fortress Maximus, at least, stored his original head in a chest compartment.

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