Talk:Airachnid (Prime)

2012-05-24T22:49:04Z

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It is written that "Unlike real spiders, Airachnid has compound eyes."<br>
Perhaps another feature that may distinguish her from spiders is that she walks on ''six'' legs, instead of eight (unless one counted her robotic legs as her 7th and 8th). [[User:Sharky857|Sharky857]] 12:15, 17 April 2011 (EDT)
:I figured that since she keeps her arms in...alternate mode (can't really call it a beast mode) she has the necessary eight limbs. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 12:24, 17 April 2011 (EDT)
:Great minds think alike SFH, I was also about to post that Airachnid's arms are the last set in her eight limbs. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 12:27, 17 April 2011 (EDT)
::Hmm, you're right. I never counted her arms as 7th and 8th leg, because... Well, they are arms and not legs. Anyway, I see your point. [[User:Sharky857|Sharky857]] 14:50, 17 April 2011 (EDT)

She turned into a drill at the end.--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 15:57, 17 April 2011 (EDT)
:She used her legs to drill, she didn't transform into one. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 16:10, 17 April 2011 (EDT)
::Correct, she was still in her robot mode when she drilled. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:14, 17 April 2011 (EDT)

Can we put this somewhere in the article?: ''"Airachnid transforms from a spider-like robot to a robot-like spider."''
<br>- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 6:25 PM, 17 April 2011 A.D.

== Possible jet mode? ==

I saw what looked like two halves of a jet's cockpit on the backs of Airachnid's shoulders. Is that worth noting, or should it wait until we see that she actually has some sort of jet mode?
<br>- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 10:40 PM, 18 April 2011 A.D.
: Everyone seems to be pretty sure she's a helicopter. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:51, 18 April 2011 (EDT)
::That makes ''more'' sense!

::- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 10:58 PM, 18 April 2011 A.D.

==G1 Insecticon colors?==

Can someone explain to me why this info should be on this page when it can't be proven this was an intentional homage?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 23:56, 18 April 2011 (EDT)
: I kind of think the burden of proof is on you to prove that a Bug Decepticon in predominantly black with gold and purple is entirely by accident. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:03, 19 April 2011 (EDT)
:: A spider-like female decepticon with a color scheme which is '''specifically''' attempting to homage the 3 original male Decepticon insects? If she shared any design or character attributes with the Insecticons I'd find it more likely, but as is... I note it as a possibility. But I suppose mabye I'm just getting a little too concerned about getting an official source for the info. Actually, I'm surprised no one is arguing that they are Blackarachnia's colors.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:53, 19 April 2011 (EDT)
:::Blackarachnia is more purple and less black. I'd sooner believe Arachnid's colours to be a homage to the Insecticons... Even if I feel like raging that spiders aren't insects. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 01:48, 19 April 2011 (EDT)
::::Airachnid has compound eyes like an insect's, though. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:36, 19 April 2011 (EDT)
:::::Also there's the episode's pun about Jack and the "large insects" he has to swat at the beginning and end. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:48, 19 April 2011 (EDT)
::::Actually, purple was only introduced on Blackarachnia (character model-wise) with her Transmetal 2 form, and even then wasn't really a staple 'color' for her character until Animated. (Her Beast Machines form was magenta. Yeah, I said it.) [[User:Boy Blunderous|Boy Blunderous]] 23:28, 14 May 2011

:Wouldn't Animated Blackarachnia be a much closer homage?[[Special:Contributions/24.13.125.86|24.13.125.86]] 01:33, 12 May 2011 (EDT)

==Three Modes==

Now that Airachnid's officially confirmed to have a helicopter mode, I believe it is ok to label her a 'Transformer with three modes'. Unless Hasbro officially labels her a Triple Changer.--[[User:Cydra|Cydra]] 02:47, 26 June 2011 (EDT)
: We still don't know if she abandoned the...spider alternate mode (can't really call it a beast mode) so I'd say we wait until we know for sure. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 12:17, 26 June 2011 (EDT)

==Image==
Instead of concrete Airachnid, shouldn't it be an image of her helicopter mode? [[User:Eire]] Jun 26 2011 14:40
: Yes, it definitely should. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:34, 26 June 2011 (EDT)
::Is there a reason we couldn't have both? This image is kinda funny, and I figure there will be many (better) opportunities to get a good shot of her altmode. Concrete-covered Airachnid, not so much. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 12:59, 26 June 2011 (EDT)
:::As a guy who's been trying to get altmode pics of people from Prime, I can tell you that no, altmode images are not really all that easy to get. Especially airborne ones. And, frankly, her acquiring her altmode is way more important to her appearance in this episode than a sight gag. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:16, 26 June 2011 (EDT)

==Alt Mode==

Anyone get what kind of attack heilo her alt mode is based on? Kinda reminded me of the cancelled RAH-66 Comanche http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAH-66_Comanche but it could be an attack helicopter currently in service. Possibly a European design as it certainly doesn't resemble the Apache or any of the Cobra variants. -annonimous 6/27/11 12:38 AM EST
: I'm guessing entirely made up, considering it has spider-web-shaped cockpit lines. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:52, 27 June 2011 (EDT)
:: I don't know. Immediately after I posted I went to the Crisscross page and it already said the same thing, that her alt mode appears to be based on a Comanche. The spiderweb pattern could be more of a decroative element to point to Airachnid's nature, which you clearly don't see when she's in her alt mode. My orignal thought when I first saw the episode was to try and find if there was a heilo named black widow, but I don't think there are any named after insects or arachnids. But the lines on the Comanche give it a deadly look, which would suit the character. - annonymous 6/27/11 2:35 AM EST
::: I agree that the resemblance is strong enough that it should be mentioned on her page; at the very least it will give interested persons a place to start when looking for reference

== Maleficent ==

I've removed the anon's claims that the ressemblance was fully intentional, but should that note be kept nonetheless? Seems like a bit of a stretch and it's normally more the rule to keep these kinds of notes to only what's intentional. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 11:38, 27 June 2011 (EDT)
:I think it should be removed. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 12:41, 27 June 2011 (EDT)

== Thumbnail of Airachnid's Vehicle Mode ==

You know, I've just recently saw Airachnid's Stealth Helicopter Mode on this site and it looked awesome. However, should anyone of you wish to make this image a thumbnail on the Airachnid's bio section of this site, could you possibly make one, so that we Transformers fan will get a chance to enlarge it in full resolution in order for us to give a very clear glimpse of what Airachnid's True Altmode will be like?

== The toy that the anons claime she'll have ==

Why do they think she'll have one? Was it rumoured somewhere I don't frequent? Is it out-of-context bollocks? Should this article be semi-protected (assuming that's the one that means "anon no-touchy")? Am I abusing the questions here? [[User:Bobpiecheese|Bobpiecheese]] 07:28, 10 July 2011 (EDT)?
:Seeing as Hasbro applied for an Airachnid trademark.... [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] 09:43, 10 July 2011 (EDT)
:I don't think it's been rumoured anywhere beyond Hasbro's trademark app (which ISTR was a while ago now?) but even if it has, obviously a rumour isn't good enough for a toy to be listed here. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:38, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

== Removal of Note section comment. "Compound Eyes" ==

Can I ask for the removal of the particular note on the section that says she has compound eyes? I removed it but someone placed it back

It is not accurate and I think it should be removed. Of course you can decide to leave it but it really is inaccurate.

1) Just because she has webbing in the eyes to show that effect does not mean they are true compound eyes.

2) To call them that.. well implies compound eyes. If you look up what compound eyes are you would understand this is indeed incorrect. Compound eyes implies just that. Her eyes are not segmented they are not on the sides of her head or extended outward. It is just an assumption and a poor one at that to include such a statement just because of a webbing design.

3) We have seen from her viewpoint and again this supports the facts they are not compound.

At the very least could it be changed up to say it resembles compound eyes?

I doubt anyone will change this up but thanks for at least reading this anyways.

(Sorry if I'm messing things up posting here. I am new and still learning the ways to post. {{unsigned|174.92.174.209}}
:Yeah, I don't think she has compound eyes at all. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:49, 21 October 2011 (EDT)

(Hey thanks a lot for the agreement and consideration for removal. =) )

== Insecticon? ==
okay so with the last episode and her control of the insecticon what kind of con is she decept or insect? [[Special:Contributions/108.38.164.252|108.38.164.252]] 23:46, 31 March 2012 (EDT)
:She's both. The original insecticons were a sub group of decepticons {{unsigned|69.43.213.155}}
::I don't think we can say she's an Insecticon unless she's named as such onscreen or on packaging or somewhere. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:58, 3 May 2012 (EDT)

== Toy release ==

Does anyone know when exactly this year the Airachnid toy is going to be in stores?

Return to Cybertron (sticker book)

2012-05-24T14:06:16Z

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{{disambig2|the sticker book|the Kid Rhino VHS tape|The Original Transformers}}
{{comicstory|
|prev=Revenge of the Decepticons
|seriesissue=[[Sticker Adventures|''The Transformers Sticker Adventures'']]
|next=Battle on the Junk Planet
|image=Returncybertroncover.jpg
|caption=[[wikipedia:Spaceballs|Spaceballs]] The Coloring Book!
|title="Return to Cybertron"
|publisher=[[Marvel Books]]
|date=1984
|pagecount=16 story pages, 4 pages of stickers
|ISBN=ISBN 9780871350251<br>ISBN 0-87135-025-4
|written by=[[Suzanne Weyn]]
|art by=[[Charles Nicholas Wojtkoski|Charles Nicholas]]}}

'''Optimus Prime returns to find Cybertron under Decepticon control.'''

==Synopsis==
[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] are working on a "mysterious spaceship". Despite their advanced astroengineering know-how, they still need assistance from [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparkplug]], who is building a device to track the spaceship's journey. The ship is a single-seater, preprogrammed to take its passenger directly back to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Sparkplug gripes that [[Earth]] is a perfectly fine planet and he doesn't see any reason to leave, which leads Prime to regale him with yet another retelling of how the [[Autobot]]s came to Earth in the first place.

[[Image:Returntocybertron-ohsnap.jpg|left|150px|thumb|Then it hit me that Sunstreaker was really just a leg, with the round part just the way you would expect.]]
Since the Autobots have been gone so long, it is imperative that they re-establish contact, even if it's just to ensure that Cybertron still exists. The discussion is disrupted by a [[Decepticon]] assault. [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] and the [[Seeker (body-type)|Decepticon jets]] blast through the Autobots' encampment, and a direct shot takes Optimus Prime out of commission.

Prime awakens to find his comrades slaughtered. Knowing there is nothing he can do alone, he takes the one-man ship back to Cybertron in hopes of finding reinforcements. Unfortunately, the planet is fully under Decepticon control! Prime meets an [[Ancient Autobot survivor]] who tells Prime of the Decepticons' conquest of their homeworld. Prime relates that the Autobots of Earth have fallen as well, just as the pair are ambushed by Decepticon police! The Decepticons blast Prime...who awakens in the Autobot repair bay, surrounded by his teammates. Prowl and [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] tell him that IT WAS ALL A DREAM. This only steels Optimus Prime's resolve to defeat the Decepticons once and for all.
{{--}}

==Quotes==
==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
* [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] (1)
* [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] (2)
* Unidentified Autobots in flashback (5-10)
* [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] (12)
* [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] (16)
* [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] (17)
* [[Ancient Autobot survivor]] (18)
* [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] (20)
* [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] (21)

|c2=
* [[Seeker (body-type)|Decepticon jet]] (4)
* [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] (11)
* [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] (13)
* [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] (14)
* [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] (15)
* [[Decepticon Police officer]] (19)
|c3=
* [[Sparkplug Witwicky]] (3)
}}

==Notes==
[[Image:Returntocybertron-soundwave.jpg|right|100px|thumb|Sadly, not the first time this has happened. [[Image:Autobot_Soundwave.jpg|Though, last time it happen, Soundwave was a ''Shattered Glass'' "Autobot"]].]]
* Prowl is described as Optimus Prime's "helper".
* [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] and [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] have non-speaking roles. Sunstreaker's appearance consists of "being a corpse".
* [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] refers to himself (and his fellow jets) as "beautiful mechanical birds of the sky". Ohhhh-kaaay...
* In the flashback to ancient Cybertron, we see a guy who looks like [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] with a red helmet and a [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]] colorscheme that is entirely original—blue with purple tailfins and trim.
* Megatron is conspicuously absent.
* On the last page, Optimus Prime is shown with his arms around his fellow Autobots, Bumblebee and... Soundwave?
* Autobot Soundwave has googly eyes.
* This book was used in the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Spaceballs|Spaceballs]]'' with a large Spaceballs sticker [[:Image:Spaceballs.jpg|over the cover]].

==External links==
*[http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~sstoneb/tf/books/sticker/return/return.html Return to Cybertron at Steve-o Stonebraker's site.]

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