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Optimus Primal (BW)

2006-11-21T07:43:32Z

71.162.41.120:

{{Template:Disambig3|Optimus}}

:''Optimus Primal is a [[Maximal]] and an [[Autobot]] in the [[Beast Era]] portion of the [[Generation 1]] continuity family.''

[[Image:Optimusprimalbw.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Next one of you says "[[trukk not munky]]" gets it in the FACE.]]

Young and untested, '''Optimus Primal''' was a mere captain of an exploration ship when he and his crew were diverted off-course to pursue a stolen Predacon ship. The rest, they say, is (literally) history.

Though he does have a penchant for stuffy speeches, Optimus Primal is much more down-to-earth than his legendary [[Optimus Prime (G1)|namesake]]. He is committed to the Maximal codes of honor and moral judgment, but he does view them with some irreverence, and is not above finding loopholes or administering unorthodox solutions if necessary. ("Sometimes, crazy works," he says.) He is eternally loyal to his friends and respectful to his enemies. He is brave and selfless in battle. However, he is so committed to helping others that he can withdraw into a deep depression when he feels he has let them down. This is the only time he is self-absorbed.

Optimus Primal is extraordinary for not only being able to distinguish himself despite living in the shadow of Optimus Prime, but for perhaps even surpassing him. It is possible Optimus Primal is the greatest Cybertronian hero who has ever lived.

''European-market name:'' '''Blackjack''' <br>
''Japanese name:'' '''(Beast) Convoy'''

==Fiction==

===Optimus Primal VS Megatron pack-in comic===

Under the eerie shadows of a full moon Optimus Primal, a gigantic bat, [[Cheetor]], a swift-stalking cheetah, and [[Razorbeast]], a fearsome wild boar, hunt purposely through the depths of a jungle. Soon Optimus detects the thermal emissions and fusion activity from a building, which mean they've found their target. His motion sensors register what appears to be a harmless [[Earth]] creature below.

Before Optimus realizes his mistake the alligator lashes out with as smashing swipe of its tail, knocking Optimus into the swampy waters. The beast transformers and [[Megatron]] towers above him. The building ahead is the Predacon's genetics lab and he'll never let Optimus reach the secrets inside. He orders his troops to attack and everyone transforms to robot mode. The gigantic insects Tarrantulas and Waspinator engage Razorbeast and Cheetor respectively while Optimus and Megatron face off.

Optimus brags that the Maximal ''"[[bio-genetic morphing process]] has allowed us to create the perfect fusion of organic musculature and Transformers technology!"'' Megatron responds that his side did all that too, so nan-neh, but used the DNA of Earth's most vicious predators. When Optimus notes that the Maximals seem to be getting the upper hand, Megatron immediately detonates the lab and escapes, vowing to return with new forms and new plans when the Maximals least expect it. The Beast Wars have just begun!

''('''Note:''' This comic, along with the techspec bios of the first wave of Beast Wars toys, predate the development of the Beast Wars cartoon and its backstory. Instead they seem to present the characters as a direct continuation of the previous Autobot/Decepticon conflict, with Optimus Primal actually being a new form of Optimus Prime and Megatron being his Generation 1 counterpart, and their battles taking place on present day, [[human]]-inhabited Earth, rather than in the distant past. Once the cartoon launched, the toyline adjusted itself to match that continuity instead.) ''

===American animated continuity===
====''Timelines: Dawn of Future's Past''====
[[Image:Optimusprimalbwtimelines.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Pre-fur Optimus Primal, Maximal nobody.]]

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====''Beast Wars''====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Gary Chalk]] (US), [[Takehito Koyasu]] (Japan)

[[Image:Optimusprimalbws1robot.jpg|left|thumb|Don't need no stinkin' shadows.]]

Optimus Primal was the captain of the exploration ship [[Axalon (BW)|''Axalon'']] when his crew got word that the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] criminal [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] had stolen the [[Golden Disk]] and a [[Darkside|ship]] with [[transwarp]] capabilities. Primal's was the closest vessel that also possessed a transwarp drive, so the ''Axalon'' was sent to engage them. Primal followed the Predacons through a transwarp portal and appeared above a mysterious planet, but both ships were damaged in the ensuing space battle, and before both ships crashed into the planet's surface below, Primal ordered that the [[stasis pod]]s carrying the rest of his crew to be ejected into orbit.

[[Image:Optimusprimalbws1ape.jpg|100px|right|thumb|This ape's for you. He's comin' atcha.]]

The planet was rich with [[energon]] -- so much so that prolonged exposure would short out their bodies, so the Maximals and Predacons were forced to take organic forms from the local creatures. Primal took the form of a silverback gorilla. Estranged from his comrades, the Predacon [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] challenged Primal to a duel soon after their arrival, seeking command of the Maximals so he could, in turn, defeat Megatron. Primal won both the duel and Dinobot's respect, and Dinobot joined their ranks.

Both sides entrenched themselves on their new world and the "Beast Wars" began. Strange unnatural sites and artifacts were discovered, leading Primal and the others to believe that aliens had seeded the primitive planet with experiments and traps. One such trap, the [[Standing Stones]], ensnared Primal's body for a short time, during which the Maximals scrambled to ascertain their chain of command. In his absence, the Maximals squabbled and fought over leadership, until finally his core consciousness was able to speak to them and name [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] as his replacement. Primal's body was subsequently retrieved from the Standing Stones, and he resumed command.

When [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]] discovered evidence of the [[Vok]]'s imminent arrival, Megatron called a truce, which Primal reluctantly agreed to. While investigating a newly-created Vok installation, Primal was tortured and captured by the aliens, who spoke to him (in the form of [[Unicron]]) and told him of their plans to 'sterilize' the planet. Barely escaping the Vok base, Primal returned to the Axalon to find it overrun by [[Tarantulas]] and [[Blackarachnia]], who had turned a space stasis pod into an escape ship, in order to flee the doomed planet. As the planet's second moon was converted into a [[Planet Buster]], Primal took the ship to do battle with the superweapon, against the objections of his crew. Primal planned to detonate the ship's [[transwarp cell]] when in range of the weapon, after ejecting to safety. The plan worked - with the exception of the 'ejecting' part. Megatron remotely seized control of the vessel, overriding Primal's ejection commands. The Predacon commander taunted Primal as he futilely beat his fists against the pod, until the detonation obliterated the pod, the Planet Buster, and Primal, reducing them all to so much space junk.

[[Image:Optimusprimalbws2robot.jpg|left|thumb|Transmetal Rippedimus Primal]]

Primal's [[Spark]] journeyed to the [[Allspark (dimension)|Matrix]], where it was soon recovered by [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] and placed in a [[blank]] [[protoform]], which became his new [[Transmetal]] body. Primal now transformed into a mechanical gorilla with a gorilla-on-a-hoverboard third mode.

[[Image:Optimusprimalbws2ape.jpg|100px|right|thumb|This ape's for you. He wants to love you.]]
Later on, Primal was captured and imprisoned in [[Metal Hunter|yet another Vok base]], this one controlled by his archnemesis Megatron. During a daring rescue attempt by the Maximals and Tarantulas, Optimus engaged in a furious battle with Megatron, destroying both the Metal Hunter and the alien disc. The Maximals then suffered a number of setbacks, including the death of [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]], the destruction of [[Transmutate]], and Megatron's acquisition of the deadly [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]]. However, the Maximals were soon greeted with good news; the realization that the [[transwarp wavefront]] created by the destruction of the Planet Buster would lead Cybertron to them, in order to mount a rescue operation. Help arrived soon enough, but in the unexpected form of the rebuilt [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], who had come to arrest Megatron for his crimes against the [[Pax Cybertronia]]. In the midst of this, Primal was forced to chastize new recruit [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)|Silverbolt]] for his dangerous relationship with Blackarachnia. Primal assisted Ravage in arresting Megatron, but was soon betrayed by the ex-[[Decepticon]], allowing Megatron to escape and reach the [[Ark]], in an attempt to assassinate [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]].

Primal was forced to take the great Autobot's Spark inside himself to keep it protected. This caused his body to grow larger and stronger, gaining ground and air vehicle modes along with his previous gorilla form. This new "Optimal Optimus" successfully protected Prime's spark until it could be returned to his repaired body, saving history and the future from destruction.

With the location of the Ark revealed, and Megatron now desperate to end the war at any cost, Primal was forced to move his Maximals into the volcano where the Ark's hull lay. This new, defensive war was much more difficult to fight, and disadvantaged the Maximals severely. With the loss of their defense system, [[Sentinel]], the awkward and violent maturation of Cheetor, proto-humans to guard, and the introduction of the previously treacherous and morally ambiguous Blackarachnia into their ranks, Optimus Primal had more than his share of problems to deal with.

The tide was finally turned when the Vok resurrected and combined [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]] and [[Tigatron]] into the mighty [[Tigerhawk]], who obliterated the Predacon base. In the end, Primal's forces defeated Megatron's, and with the captured Predacon leader strapped to the roof of a borrowed Autobot shuttle, the Beast Warriors at last headed home.

====Beast Machines====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Gary Chalk]] (US), [[Takehito Koyasu]] (Japan)

Optimus Primal suddenly finds himself alone on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], back in his original organic gorilla body, unfamiliar with how he arrived there, and pursued by an army of tank drones. A supernatural force lead him to [[Rattrap]], [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]], and [[Blackarachnia]], and though all four appeared to be succumbing to the effects of a deadly virus that keept them from transforming into their robot modes, he was able to lead them to the legendary [[Vector Sigma|Oracle]]. The Oracle reformated them into new [[technorganic]] forms that were immune to the virus.

Eventually, Primal and his allies learned that Megatron broke free durring their Transwarp flight home and so arrived on Cybertron before them. Megatron conquered the planet and laid a trap for Primal's crew and any other Transformers returning to Cybertron.

During the events that followed, Optimus Primal came to be much more in touch with his spiritual side than he ever was before, due to an almost mystical connection to the Oracle. This granted him visions and intuitions, guiding him to complete its designs. Though he had some trouble at first comprehending just what the Oracle wanted and how to go about it, he was, in the end, successful. Optimus Primal sacrificeed his life, plunging with Megatron into the heart of Cybertron and innitiating the reformating that returned the deactivated population to life and gave birth to the new technorganic Cybertron.

====''Robots in Disguise''====
When a spirit guide was needed to counsel the [[Optimus Prime (RiD)|Optimus Prime]] of a past, alternate reality, Optimus Primal rose to the task.

====''Universe''====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Garry Chalk]] (US, script reading)
His sacrifice to end Megatron's evil and restore Cybertron was not the final battle for Optimus Primal. When the machinations of [[Unicron]] led to a new conflict, with Transformers abducted from across the multiverse forced to fight for Unicron's benefit, [[Vector Sigma]] and [[Alpha Trion]] chose Optimus Primal to lead the [[Children of Primus]] against this threat. Primal was returned to life, and chose his old comrades [[Depth Charge]] and [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] to return as well and aid him. (Returning Primal to life, however, also resulted in the resurrection of his old foe Megatron.)

====''Cybertron'' comic====
[[Image:Optimusprimaluniverseend.jpg|right|thumb|It's 11pm -- do you know where your Beast Wars cast is?]]

[[Optimus Prime (RiD)|Optimus Prime]] recalled the end of the ''[[Universe]]'' conflict, where Optimus Primal led an assault on the [[Minions of Unicron]]. But due to [[Unicron]]'s sudden instability, Primal was victorious, and was able to escape back to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] with his troops and rescue a number of Unicron-corrupted innocents.

''('''Note''': Unknown to Primal, Unicron's dispersion was caused by the [[Unicron Singularity|Grand Black Hole]] in an alternate timeline.)''

===Japanese animated continuity===

====''Beast Wars II''====
[[Image:Burningconvoy.jpg|thumb|left|All these compliments are making me blush.]]
=====Movie=====
Optimus Primal was summoned across time by [[Lio Junior]] to help [[Leo Prime]] destroy [[Majin Zarak]]. Optimus Primal became '''Burning Convoy''' by joining the power of his matrix with Leo Prime's.

After Majin Zarak's destruction, Optimus Primal returned to ancient [[Earth]].

''('''Note''': The events of the ''Beast Wars II'' movie, especially Optimus Primal having an [[Energon Matrix]], did not occur in American continuity. It's not clear when during the Beast Wars Optimus Primal was taken.)''

=====Manga=====

When Leo Prime goes nuts and grows to giant proportions, wreaking havok across the landscape, Optimus Primal is summoned across time by the power of the Matrix to heal him.

====''Robot Masters''====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Yuto Kazama]] (Japan)

Optimus Primal chased Megatron in yet another time warp into the Generation 1 era. There, he met and joined forces with the [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. Together, their special attack was a massive energon tornado called Double Convoy Tornado. The Double Convoy Tornado would come to be countered by [[Megatron (BW)|Beast Megatron]]'s and [[Megatron (G1)|Rebirth Megatron]]'s Double Megatron Tornado, but emerge victorious with the addition of Leo Prime's Lio Typhoon Arrow, creating Triple Convoy Tornado Link attack.

He also had a temporary virus-induced Black Body form.

''('''Note''': Since both were known as simply "Convoy" in their respective Japanese series, Optimus Prime was designated "G1 Convoy" while Optimus Primal was designated "Beast Convoy".)''

===''Beast Wars Metals'' manga continuity===

Optimus Primal, who was killed while destroying the Vok Planet Buster, is resurrected as a sparkless monster using a voodoo ceremony. Rhinox rescues Primal's spark from Transwarp Space and restores him to his body.

Later, he eats Optimus Prime's spark.

''The Metals Manga takes Primal's manic action hero side to the next level. He once put a bomb in his mouth and tricked the cannibalistic [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]] into eating his head. "I have a spare," he says casually, transforming to beast mode.''

==Toys==
===Beast Wars===
* '''Optimus Primal vs Megatron''' (Basic versus two-pack, 1996)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-6'''

:The first Optimus Primal was a Basic size class blue bat which could autotransform into a robot by pulling the tail. Two swords were removeable from under its wings for use as weaponry in robot mode. It was packaged along with an alligator version of Megatron and a ''Beast Wars'' mini-comic.

:Whether this toy can be considered the Optimus Primal character is a matter of debate. Released before the animated series began, which established Optimus Primal as a separate entity from Optimus Prime, the accompanying profiles and mini-comic seem to assume that the Beast Wars are a progression of the same characters from the Autobot/Decepticon war. Whether the animated series' [[retcon]] affected this set of toys is probably a matter of personal preference.

:This mold was also used to make [[Onyx Primal]].

* '''Optimus Primal''' (Ultra, 1996/1997/1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-1'''

[[Image:Optimusprimaltoyultraape.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Yes, missiles come out of his butt.]]

: The second Optimus Primal toy was an ape in the Ultra size class. Though the transformation from primate to humanoid was a relatively simplistic transformation, the toy compensated with more than a fair share of weaponry and action features. A compartment on his right forearm opened to reveal a skull-shaped mace he could hold in its fist. His left forearm could open into a double-barrelled missile launcher. On his back were two spring-loaded missile launchers which auto-flipped over each shoulder. By pulling a lever in the center of its back, both arms would either spin at the bicep or swing, depending on the placement of notch-buttons located on either bicep. And finally, like many first-year ''Beast Wars'' toys, a battle mask/"mutant head" could be deployed over its robot head.

[[Image:prizeprimals.jpg|100px|thumb|right|Brass monkeys.]]

: Takara released the toy as part of their ''Beast Wars'' line in July of 1997, nearly identical to the Hasbro version. In January of 1998, the re-did many of the toys with a few alterations; for Optimus, they changed the black to dark gray and the blue to metallic blue. The missiles for the Takara version are also thinner and simpler than the original Hasbro version, and would be used in all subsequent releases of the mold.

:This mold was [[redeco]]ed into ''[[Universe]]'' Optimus Primal, and [[retool]]ed into ''Beast Wars Reborn''/''Beast Wars Tenth Anniversary'' versus pack Optimus Primal. Takara also created multiple special variants, including all-gold (from ''Tele-V Magazine'', only ten awarded), red and gray (''Tele-V'' again, but only ''one'' awarded), blue-fur (a ''Comics Bom Bom'' design-contest prize, only five awarded), and colorless-clear with silver paint details (Toys 'R' Us retail [[exclusive]]).

*'''Convobat vs Megaligator'''
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''S-1'''
:This figure is a red [[redeco]] of Primal's first bat form, and was sold with a purple redeco of Gator Megatron.

*'''Orcanoch''' ([[Microverse]], 1997)
: Part of the Microverse toyline, this orca transforms into a Maximal base. It came with tiny, non-transforming versions of Optimus Primal and Tarantulas.

* '''Optimus Primal''' (Mega Transmetal, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-40'''

: [[Transmetal]] Optimus Primal is a mechanical gorilla that transforms into a partially organic robot. Like all Transmetals, it featured chromed plastic and a third vehicle-inspired mode -- in Primal's case, its gorilla mode could transform into a gorilla on a hoverboard. Two maces stored on his back, which could double as missiles for its hip-holstered blaster.

: [[Takara]]'s version of the toy exchanged the brown plastic for translucent maroon, and was also available in a set with Transmetal Megatron.

: This mold was used to make [[Apelinq]].

* '''Optimal Optimus''' (Super Transmetal, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-47'''

: Transmetal Optimal Optimus was the first toy in the Super size class, featuring electronics and four transformations -- robot, ape, jet, and armored transport. When a back section of the cannon module was pulled, its eyes and shoulder-mounted missile launchers lit up and fired. It came with four missiles, two of which stored on its legs. Its forearms featured blast-away armor plates that could also be pegged to its upper arms.

:Optimal Optimus's techspecs states that he has Cybertronian "air guardian" technology and twin scramjet modules. [[Jetfire|G1 Jetfire]]'s function was Air Guardian, and his techspecs said he had these same scramjet modules.

: This mold was used to make [[Primal Prime]].

===Beast Wars II===
* '''Burning Convoy'''

===Beast Machines===
* '''Optimus Primal''' (Deluxe, 2000)
: The first Beast Machines Optimus Primal was a dark bronze and translucent blue technorganic gorilla that transformed into a technorganic robot. Its arm was springloaded to throw the shuriken that stored in its shoulder. Like all ''Beast Machines'' toys, it had a hidden "spark crystal" that displayed his faction allegiance.
* '''Blast Punch Optimus Primal''' (Mega, 2001)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''BR-01'''

===Robots in Disguise===
* '''Air Attack Optimus Primal''' (Supreme, 2002)

===Universe===
*'''Optimus Primal''' (Ultra, 2003)

===Robot Masters===
*'''Beast Convoy'''
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''RM-11'''

*'''Beast Convoy Limited Black Version'''

: Available only via mail order through ''Hobby Japan'' magazine

* '''Burning Beast Convoy'''
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''RM-21'''
:This toy referrs to the ''Beast Wars II'' movie form where he partnered Leo Prime, turning them into Burning Convoy and Flash Lio Convoy respectively.

===Beast Wars 10th Anniversary===
[[Image:Optimusprimalbwx.jpg|left|thumb|125px|''Surf monkey/ that funky monkey'']]
* '''Optimus Primal''' (2006)

: Beast Wars 10th Anniversary (BWX) Optimus Primal is a new toy design based loosely on his original ultra ape action figure. It comes with a hoverboard that fires a missile when a [[Cyber Planet Key]] is inserted. The board also features a spring-loaded extending "assault blade" (or "ass lt blade" as the directions call it). Though it is not ''intended'' to be removed, the blade can be popped off and held in Primal's hand thanks to his posable thumbs.

[[Image:PrimalXsword.jpg|100px|thumb|Opposable thumbs!]]

: He is also packaged with a mini-comic-sized reprinting of [[IDW Publishing]]'s ''[[The Gathering]]'' #1, a small [[Axalon (BW)|''Axalon'']] ship figurine, and a [[Jungle Planet]] style Cyber Planet Key ''without'' a [[Cyber Key Code]] stamped on it.

:This mold was [[redeco]]ed and released as [[Cybertron (toyline)|''Cybertron'']] [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]]. It's worth noting that the scuplt for both BW10 leader toys were intentionally designed to blend in with the Jungle Planet aesthetic, "in case" they didn't get a Beast Wars Anniversary release (according to [[Aaron Archer]]'s statements at [[BotCon 2005]]).

* '''Optimus Primal vs Megatron''' (Toys "R" Us, 2006)
:Identical to the ''Beast Wars Reborn'' set as detailed below, but in new packaging with a DVD of the ''Beast Wars'' episode "[[Possession]]."

===Beast Wars Reborn===
[[Image:Optimusprimaltoybwrebornheads.jpg|right|thumb|150px|Staring contest -- go!]]
* '''Convoy vs Megatron''' (2006)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''BWR-01'''

[[Image:Optimusprimaltoybwreborn.jpg|left|thumb|100px|]]

: This release is a [[retool]] of the original 1996 Ultra toy, with new heads and robot chest sculpted to match the television series' portrayal. The color scheme was also altered to be show-accurate, changing the black to dark gray, much of the light gray to medium gray with hints of bronze, primary red to crimson, and blue to a more dull steel blue. This figure came packaged with a similarly-remolded [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] and a [[Golden Disk]] CD-ROM that contains control art for a number of ''Beast Wars'' toys.

===Titanium Series===
* '''Optimus Primal''' (3" Robot Master figurine)
Features Primal in his Beast Wars Season 1 appearance, with swords drawn in an action pose.

* '''Optimal Optimus''' (6" Transformable figure)

For undetirmined reasons, this incarnation of Optimal Optimus does not include the Beast Mode. Some fans have identified it more as a representative of [[Megatron]] from the final episodes of [[Beast Machines]] than as Optimus Primal.

===Timelines===
* '''Dawn of Future's Past''' (Boxset, BotCon 2006)

===Merchandise===

==Trivia==
* According to a guide book published in conjunction with the ''Beast Wars II'' theatrical film, Optimus Primal's original body had the following technical specifications. The veracity of these numbers in relation to anything actually featuring Primal, of course, is questionable.

:Height: 2.8m (9.19 feet).
:Weight: 2 tons.
:Running Speed: 60km (37.28 mph, beast mode), 50km (31.07 mph, robot mode).
:Airspeed: Mach 7.
:Maximum Power Output: 1,000,000 horsepower.

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1996/Maximal/OptimusPrimal/optimusprimal.htm Optimus Primal at TFU.info]

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Optimus Primal (BW)

2006-11-21T07:41:31Z

71.162.41.120: /* Beast Wars */

{{Template:Disambig3|Optimus}}

:''Optimus Primal is a [[Maximal]] and an [[Autobot]] in the [[Beast Era]] portion of the [[Generation 1]] continuity family.''

[[Image:Optimusprimalbw.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Next one of you says "[[trukk not munky]]" gets it in the FACE.]]

Young and untested, '''Optimus Primal''' was a mere captain of an exploration ship when he and his crew were diverted off-course to pursue a stolen Predacon ship. The rest, they say, is (literally) history.

Though he does have a penchant for stuffy speeches, Optimus Primal is much more down-to-earth than his legendary [[Optimus Prime (G1)|namesake]]. He is committed to the Maximal codes of honor and moral judgment, but he does view them with some irreverence, and is not above finding loopholes or administering unorthodox solutions if necessary. ("Sometimes, crazy works," he says.) He is eternally loyal to his friends and respectful to his enemies. He is brave and selfless in battle. However, he is so committed to helping others that he can withdraw into a deep depression when he feels he has let them down. This is the only time he is self-absorbed.

Optimus Primal is extraordinary for not only being able to distinguish himself despite living in the shadow of Optimus Prime, but for perhaps even surpassing him. It is possible Optimus Primal is the greatest Cybertronian hero who has ever lived.

''European-market name:'' '''Blackjack''' <br>
''Japanese name:'' '''(Beast) Convoy'''

==Fiction==

===Optimus Primal VS Megatron pack-in comic===

Under the eerie shadows of a full moon Optimus Primal, a gigantic bat, [[Cheetor]], a swift-stalking cheetah, and [[Razorbeast]], a fearsome wild boar, hunt purposely through the depths of a jungle. Soon Optimus detects the thermal emissions and fusion activity from a building, which mean they've found their target. His motion sensors register what appears to be a harmless [[Earth]] creature below.

Before Optimus realizes his mistake the alligator lashes out with as smashing swipe of its tail, knocking Optimus into the swampy waters. The beast transformers and [[Megatron]] towers above him. The building ahead is the Predacon's genetics lab and he'll never let Optimus reach the secrets inside. He orders his troops to attack and everyone transforms to robot mode. The gigantic insects Tarrantulas and Waspinator engage Razorbeast and Cheetor respectively while Optimus and Megatron face off.

Optimus brags that the Maximal ''"[[bio-genetic morphing process]] has allowed us to create the perfect fusion of organic musculature and Transformers technology!"'' Megatron responds that his side did all that too, so nan-neh, but used the DNA of Earth's most vicious predators. When Optimus notes that the Maximals seem to be getting the upper hand, Megatron immediately detonates the lab and escapes, vowing to return with new forms and new plans when the Maximals least expect it. The Beast Wars have just begun!

''('''Note:''' This comic, along with the techspec bios of the first wave of Beast Wars toys, predate the development of the Beast Wars cartoon and its backstory. Instead they seem to present the characters as a direct continuation of the previous Autobot/Decepticon conflict, with Optimus Primal actually being a new form of Optimus Prime and Megatron being his Generation 1 counterpart, and their battles taking place on present day, [[human]]-inhabited Earth, rather than in the distant past. Once the cartoon launched, the toyline adjusted itself to match that continuity instead.) ''

===American animated continuity===
====''Timelines: Dawn of Future's Past''====
[[Image:Optimusprimalbwtimelines.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Pre-fur Optimus Primal, Maximal nobody.]]

{{-}}

====''Beast Wars''====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Gary Chalk]] (US), [[Takehito Koyasu]] (Japan)

[[Image:Optimusprimalbws1robot.jpg|left|thumb|Don't need no stinkin' shadows.]]

Optimus Primal was the captain of the exploration ship [[Axalon (BW)|''Axalon'']] when his crew got word that the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] criminal [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] had stolen the [[Golden Disk]] and a [[Darkside|ship]] with [[transwarp]] capabilities. Primal's was the closest vessel that also possessed a transwarp drive, so the ''Axalon'' was sent to engage them. Primal followed the Predacons through a transwarp portal and appeared above a mysterious planet, but both ships were damaged in the ensuing space battle, and before both ships crashed into the planet's surface below, Primal ordered that the [[stasis pod]]s carrying the rest of his crew to be ejected into orbit.

[[Image:Optimusprimalbws1ape.jpg|100px|right|thumb|This ape's for you. He's comin' atcha.]]

The planet was rich with [[energon]] -- so much so that prolonged exposure would short out their bodies, so the Maximals and Predacons were forced to take organic forms from the local creatures. Primal took the form of a silverback gorilla. Estranged from his comrades, the Predacon [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] challenged Primal to a duel soon after their arrival, seeking command of the Maximals so he could, in turn, defeat Megatron. Primal won both the duel and Dinobot's respect, and Dinobot joined their ranks.

Both sides entrenched themselves on their new world and the "Beast Wars" began. Strange unnatural sites and artifacts were discovered, leading Primal and the others to believe that aliens had seeded the primitive planet with experiments and traps. One such trap, the [[Standing Stones]], ensnared Primal's body for a short time, during which the Maximals scrambled to ascertain their chain of command. In his absence, the Maximals squabbled and fought over leadership, until finally his core consciousness was able to speak to them and name [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] as his replacement. Primal's body was subsequently retrieved from the Standing Stones, and he resumed command.

When [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]] discovered evidence of the [[Vok]]'s imminent arrival, Megatron called a truce, which Primal reluctantly agreed to. While investigating a newly-created Vok installation, Primal was tortured and captured by the aliens, who spoke to him (in the form of [[Unicron]]) and told him of their plans to 'sterilize' the planet. Barely escaping the Vok base, Primal returned to the Axalon to find it overrun by [[Tarantulas]] and [[Blackarachnia]], who had turned a space stasis pod into an escape ship, in order to flee the doomed planet. As the planet's second moon was converted into a [[Planet Buster]], Primal took the ship to do battle with the superweapon, against the objections of his crew. Primal planned to detonate the ship's [[transwarp cell]] when in range of the weapon, after ejecting to safety. The plan worked - with the exception of the 'ejecting' part. Megatron remotely seized control of the vessel, overriding Primal's ejection commands. The Predacon commander taunted Primal as he futilely beat his fists against the pod, until the detonation obliterated the pod, the Planet Buster, and Primal, reducing them all to so much space junk.

[[Image:Optimusprimalbws2robot.jpg|left|thumb|Transmetal Rippedimus Primal]]

Primal's [[Spark]] journeyed to the [[Allspark (dimension)|Matrix]], where it was soon recovered by [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] and placed in a [[blank]] [[protoform]], which became his new [[Transmetal]] body. Primal now transformed into a mechanical gorilla with a gorilla-on-a-hoverboard third mode.

[[Image:Optimusprimalbws2ape.jpg|100px|right|thumb|This ape's for you. He wants to love you.]]
Later on, Primal was captured and imprisoned in [[Metal Hunter|yet another Vok base]], this one controlled by his archnemesis Megatron. During a daring rescue attempt by the Maximals and Tarantulas, Optimus engaged in a furious battle with Megatron, destroying both the Metal Hunter and the alien disc. The Maximals then suffered a number of setbacks, including the death of [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]], the destruction of [[Transmutate]], and Megatron's acquisition of the deadly [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]]. However, the Maximals were soon greeted with good news; the realization that the [[transwarp wavefront]] created by the destruction of the Planet Buster would lead Cybertron to them, in order to mount a rescue operation. Help arrived soon enough, but in the unexpected form of the rebuilt [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], who had come to arrest Megatron for his crimes against the [[Pax Cybertronia]]. In the midst of this, Primal was forced to chastize new recruit [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)|Silverbolt]] for his dangerous relationship with Blackarachnia. Primal assisted Ravage in arresting Megatron, but was soon betrayed by the ex-[[Decepticon]], allowing Megatron to escape and reach the [[Ark]], in an attempt to assassinate [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]].

Primal was forced to take the great Autobot's Spark inside himself to keep it protected. This caused his body to grow larger and stronger, gaining ground and air vehicle modes along with his previous gorilla form. This new "Optimal Optimus" successfully protected Prime's spark until it could be returned to his repaired body, saving history and the future from destruction.

With the location of the Ark revealed, and Megatron now desperate to end the war at any cost, Primal was forced to move his Maximals into the volcano where the Ark's hull lay. This new, defensive war was much more difficult to fight, and disadvantaged the Maximals severely. With the loss of their defense system, [[Sentinel]], the awkward and violent maturation of Cheetor, proto-humans to guard, and the introduction of the previously treacherous and morally ambiguous Blackarachnia into their ranks, Optimus Primal had more than his share of problems to deal with.

The tide was finally turned when the Vok resurrected and combined [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]] and [[Tigatron]] into the mighty [[Tigerhawk]], who obliterated the Predacon base. In the end, Primal's forces defeated Megatron's, and with the captured Predacon leader strapped to the roof of a borrowed Autobot shuttle, the Beast Warriors at last headed home.

====Beast Machines====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Gary Chalk]] (US), [[Takehito Koyasu]] (Japan)

Optimus Primal suddenly finds himself alone on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], back in his original organic gorilla body, unfamiliar with how he arrived there, and pursued by an army of tank drones. A supernatural force lead him to [[Rattrap]], [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]], and [[Blackarachnia]], and though all four appeared to be succumbing to the effects of a deadly virus that keept them from transforming into their robot modes, he was able to lead them to the legendary [[Vector Sigma|Oracle]]. The Oracle reformated them into new [[technorganic]] forms that were immune to the virus.

Eventually, Primal and his allies learned that Megatron broke free durring their Transwarp flight home and so arrived on Cybertron before them. Megatron conquered the planet and laid a trap for Primal's crew and any other Transformers returning to Cybertron.

During the events that followed, Optimus Primal came to be much more in touch with his spiritual side than he ever was before, due to an almost mystical connection to the Oracle. This granted him visions and intuitions, guiding him to complete its designs. Though he had some trouble at first comprehending just what the Oracle wanted and how to go about it, he was, in the end, successful. Optimus Primal sacrificeed his life, plunging with Megatron into the heart of Cybertron and innitiating the reformating that returned the deactivated population to life and gave birth to the new technorganic Cybertron.

====''Robots in Disguise''====
When a spirit guide was needed to counsel the [[Optimus Prime (RiD)|Optimus Prime]] of a past, alternate reality, Optimus Primal rose to the task.

====''Universe''====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Garry Chalk]] (US, script reading)
His sacrifice to end Megatron's evil and restore Cybertron was not the final battle for Optimus Primal. When the machinations of [[Unicron]] led to a new conflict, with Transformers abducted from across the multiverse forced to fight for Unicron's benefit, [[Vector Sigma]] and [[Alpha Trion]] chose Optimus Primal to lead the [[Children of Primus]] against this threat. Primal was returned to life, and chose his old comrades [[Depth Charge]] and [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] to return as well and aid him. (Returning Primal to life, however, also resulted in the resurrection of his old foe Megatron.)

====''Cybertron'' comic====
[[Image:Optimusprimaluniverseend.jpg|right|thumb|It's 11pm -- do you know where your Beast Wars cast is?]]

[[Optimus Prime (RiD)|Optimus Prime]] recalled the end of the ''[[Universe]]'' conflict, where Optimus Primal led an assault on the [[Minions of Unicron]]. But due to [[Unicron]]'s sudden instability, Primal was victorious, and was able to escape back to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] with his troops and rescue a number of Unicron-corrupted innocents.

''('''Note''': Unknown to Primal, Unicron's dispersion was caused by the [[Unicron Singularity|Grand Black Hole]] in an alternate timeline.)''

===Japanese animated continuity===

====''Beast Wars II''====
[[Image:Burningconvoy.jpg|thumb|left|All these compliments are making me blush.]]
=====Movie=====
Optimus Primal was summoned across time by [[Lio Junior]] to help [[Leo Prime]] destroy [[Majin Zarak]]. Optimus Primal became '''Burning Convoy''' by joining the power of his matrix with Leo Prime's.

After Majin Zarak's destruction, Optimus Primal returned to ancient [[Earth]].

''('''Note''': The events of the ''Beast Wars II'' movie, especially Optimus Primal having an [[Energon Matrix]], did not occur in American continuity. It's not clear when during the Beast Wars Optimus Primal was taken.)''

=====Manga=====

When Leo Prime goes nuts and grows to giant proportions, wreaking havok across the landscape, Optimus Primal is summoned across time by the power of the Matrix to heal him.

====''Robot Masters''====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Yuto Kazama]] (Japan)

Optimus Primal chased Megatron in yet another time warp into the Generation 1 era. There, he met and joined forces with the [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. Together, their special attack was a massive energon tornado called Double Convoy Tornado. The Double Convoy Tornado would come to be countered by [[Megatron (BW)|Beast Megatron]]'s and [[Megatron (G1)|Rebirth Megatron]]'s Double Megatron Tornado, but emerge victorious with the addition of Leo Prime's Lio Typhoon Arrow, creating Triple Convoy Tornado Link attack.

He also had a temporary virus-induced Black Body form.

''('''Note''': Since both were known as simply "Convoy" in their respective Japanese series, Optimus Prime was designated "G1 Convoy" while Optimus Primal was designated "Beast Convoy".)''

===''Beast Wars Metals'' manga continuity===

Optimus Primal, who was killed while destroying the Vok Planet Buster, is resurrected as a sparkless monster using a voodoo ceremony. Rhinox rescues Primal's spark from Transwarp Space and restores him to his body.

Later, he eats Optimus Prime's spark.

''The Metals Manga takes Primal's manic action hero side to the next level. He once put a bomb in his mouth and tricked the cannibalistic [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]] into eating his head. "I have a spare," he says casually, transforming to beast mode.''

==Toys==
===Beast Wars===
* '''Optimus Primal vs Megatron''' (Basic versus two-pack, 1996)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-6'''

:The first Optimus Primal was a Basic size class blue bat which could autotransform into a robot by pulling the tail. Two swords were removeable from under its wings for use as weaponry in robot mode. It was packaged along with an alligator version of Megatron and a ''Beast Wars'' mini-comic.

:Whether this toy can be considered the Optimus Primal character is a matter of debate. Released before the animated series began, which established Optimus Primal as a separate entity from Optimus Prime, the accompanying profiles and mini-comic seem to assume that the Beast Wars are a progression of the same characters from the Autobot/Decepticon war. Whether the animated series' [[retcon]] affected this set of toys is probably a matter of personal preference.

:This mold was also used to make [[Onyx Primal]].

* '''Optimus Primal''' (Ultra, 1996/1997/1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-1'''

[[Image:Optimusprimaltoyultraape.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Yes, missiles come out of his butt.]]

: The second Optimus Primal toy was an ape in the Ultra size class. Though the transformation from primate to humanoid was a relatively simplistic transformation, the toy compensated with more than a fair share of weaponry and action features. A compartment on his right forearm opened to reveal a skull-shaped mace he could hold in its fist. His left forearm could open into a double-barrelled missile launcher. On his back were two spring-loaded missile launchers which auto-flipped over each shoulder. By pulling a lever in the center of its back, both arms would either spin at the bicep or swing, depending on the placement of notch-buttons located on either bicep. And finally, like many first-year ''Beast Wars'' toys, a battle mask/"mutant head" could be deployed over its robot head.

[[Image:prizeprimals.jpg|100px|thumb|right|Brass monkeys.]]

: Takara released the toy as part of their ''Beast Wars'' line in July of 1997, nearly identical to the Hasbro version. In January of 1998, the re-did many of the toys with a few alterations; for Optimus, they changed the black to dark gray and the blue to metallic blue. The missiles for the Takara version are also thinner and simpler than the original Hasbro version, and would be used in all subsequent releases of the mold.

:This mold was [[redeco]]ed into ''[[Universe]]'' Optimus Primal, and [[retool]]ed into ''Beast Wars Reborn''/''Beast Wars Tenth Anniversary'' versus pack Optimus Primal. Takara also created multiple special variants, including all-gold (from ''Tele-V Magazine'', only ten awarded), red and gray (''Tele-V'' again, but only ''one'' awarded), blue-fur (a ''Comics Bom Bom'' design-contest prize, only five awarded), and colorless-clear with silver paint details (Toys 'R' Us retail [[exclusive]]).

*'''Convobat vs Megaligator'''
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''S-1'''
:This figure is a red [[redeco]] of Primal's first bat form, and was sold with a purple redeco of Gator Megatron.

*'''Orcanoch''' ([[Microverse]], 1997)
: Part of the Microverse toyline, this orca transforms into a Maximal base. It came with tiny, non-transforming versions of Optimus Primal and Tarantulas.

* '''Optimus Primal''' (Mega Transmetal, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-40'''

: [[Transmetal]] Optimus Primal is a mechanical gorilla that transforms into a partially organic robot. Like all Transmetals, it featured chromed plastic and a third vehicle-inspired mode -- in Primal's case, its gorilla mode could transform into a gorilla on a hoverboard. Two maces stored on his back, which could double as missiles for its hip-holstered blaster.

: [[Takara]]'s version of the toy exchanged the brown plastic for translucent maroon, and was also available in a set with Transmetal Megatron.

: This mold was used to make [[Apelinq]].

* '''Optimal Optimus''' (Super Transmetal, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-47'''

: Transmetal Optimal Optimus was the first toy in the Super size class, featuring electronics and four transformations -- robot, ape, jet, and armored transport. When a back section of the cannon module was pulled, its eyes and shoulder-mounted missile launchers lit up and fired. It came with four missiles, two of which stored on its legs. Its forearms featured blast-away armor plates that could also be pegged to its upper arms.

:Optimal Optimus's techspecs states that he has Cybertronian "air guardian" technology and twin scramjet modules. [[G1 Jetfire|Jetfire (G1)]]'s function was Air Guardian, and his techspecs said he had these same scramjet modules.

: This mold was used to make [[Primal Prime]].

===Beast Wars II===
* '''Burning Convoy'''

===Beast Machines===
* '''Optimus Primal''' (Deluxe, 2000)
: The first Beast Machines Optimus Primal was a dark bronze and translucent blue technorganic gorilla that transformed into a technorganic robot. Its arm was springloaded to throw the shuriken that stored in its shoulder. Like all ''Beast Machines'' toys, it had a hidden "spark crystal" that displayed his faction allegiance.
* '''Blast Punch Optimus Primal''' (Mega, 2001)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''BR-01'''

===Robots in Disguise===
* '''Air Attack Optimus Primal''' (Supreme, 2002)

===Universe===
*'''Optimus Primal''' (Ultra, 2003)

===Robot Masters===
*'''Beast Convoy'''
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''RM-11'''

*'''Beast Convoy Limited Black Version'''

: Available only via mail order through ''Hobby Japan'' magazine

* '''Burning Beast Convoy'''
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''RM-21'''
:This toy referrs to the ''Beast Wars II'' movie form where he partnered Leo Prime, turning them into Burning Convoy and Flash Lio Convoy respectively.

===Beast Wars 10th Anniversary===
[[Image:Optimusprimalbwx.jpg|left|thumb|125px|''Surf monkey/ that funky monkey'']]
* '''Optimus Primal''' (2006)

: Beast Wars 10th Anniversary (BWX) Optimus Primal is a new toy design based loosely on his original ultra ape action figure. It comes with a hoverboard that fires a missile when a [[Cyber Planet Key]] is inserted. The board also features a spring-loaded extending "assault blade" (or "ass lt blade" as the directions call it). Though it is not ''intended'' to be removed, the blade can be popped off and held in Primal's hand thanks to his posable thumbs.

[[Image:PrimalXsword.jpg|100px|thumb|Opposable thumbs!]]

: He is also packaged with a mini-comic-sized reprinting of [[IDW Publishing]]'s ''[[The Gathering]]'' #1, a small [[Axalon (BW)|''Axalon'']] ship figurine, and a [[Jungle Planet]] style Cyber Planet Key ''without'' a [[Cyber Key Code]] stamped on it.

:This mold was [[redeco]]ed and released as [[Cybertron (toyline)|''Cybertron'']] [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]]. It's worth noting that the scuplt for both BW10 leader toys were intentionally designed to blend in with the Jungle Planet aesthetic, "in case" they didn't get a Beast Wars Anniversary release (according to [[Aaron Archer]]'s statements at [[BotCon 2005]]).

* '''Optimus Primal vs Megatron''' (Toys "R" Us, 2006)
:Identical to the ''Beast Wars Reborn'' set as detailed below, but in new packaging with a DVD of the ''Beast Wars'' episode "[[Possession]]."

===Beast Wars Reborn===
[[Image:Optimusprimaltoybwrebornheads.jpg|right|thumb|150px|Staring contest -- go!]]
* '''Convoy vs Megatron''' (2006)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''BWR-01'''

[[Image:Optimusprimaltoybwreborn.jpg|left|thumb|100px|]]

: This release is a [[retool]] of the original 1996 Ultra toy, with new heads and robot chest sculpted to match the television series' portrayal. The color scheme was also altered to be show-accurate, changing the black to dark gray, much of the light gray to medium gray with hints of bronze, primary red to crimson, and blue to a more dull steel blue. This figure came packaged with a similarly-remolded [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] and a [[Golden Disk]] CD-ROM that contains control art for a number of ''Beast Wars'' toys.

===Titanium Series===
* '''Optimus Primal''' (3" Robot Master figurine)
Features Primal in his Beast Wars Season 1 appearance, with swords drawn in an action pose.

* '''Optimal Optimus''' (6" Transformable figure)

For undetirmined reasons, this incarnation of Optimal Optimus does not include the Beast Mode. Some fans have identified it more as a representative of [[Megatron]] from the final episodes of [[Beast Machines]] than as Optimus Primal.

===Timelines===
* '''Dawn of Future's Past''' (Boxset, BotCon 2006)

===Merchandise===

==Trivia==
* According to a guide book published in conjunction with the ''Beast Wars II'' theatrical film, Optimus Primal's original body had the following technical specifications. The veracity of these numbers in relation to anything actually featuring Primal, of course, is questionable.

:Height: 2.8m (9.19 feet).
:Weight: 2 tons.
:Running Speed: 60km (37.28 mph, beast mode), 50km (31.07 mph, robot mode).
:Airspeed: Mach 7.
:Maximum Power Output: 1,000,000 horsepower.

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1996/Maximal/OptimusPrimal/optimusprimal.htm Optimus Primal at TFU.info]

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Talk:Optimus Primal (BW)

2006-11-21T07:33:23Z

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Robot Masters would be a better title for the article, when it's made. After all, we have articles at [[Robots in Disguise]] and [[Generation 2]], rather than either prefixed with "Transformers:". --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 06:28, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Is there a reason why this isn't in chronological order anymore? [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 02:08, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
: Robot Masters does not occur in American continuity. (Nor does BWII. Our Primal does not possess the Matrix.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:13, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't realy agrea with that but I guess your the admin... [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 02:28, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Says BWX Primal was designed for Cybertron and "slapped into the ann line at the last minute." Do we know that? I would imagine it was always intended to be used in both to help ammeliate the cost.

Why aren't there any images of Optimal Optimus in this article?
~Ithekro

== Bat-Primal ==

I've hear a lot of so-and-so about the Japanese view on bat-primal as G1 convoy.

So, for someone who reads nipponese... does [http://members.aol.com/regenesis0/batprimal.jpg this] say anything at all helpful/interesting? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 10:33, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Nothing that I can make out. --[[User:Ratbat|Ratbat]] 11:06, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
:The first sentence under the name says ''Konboi ga Amason de Megatoron to ta ta ka tsu ta to ki no sugata.'' As I have no idea what words are being referred by the Hiragana, I've put the symbol transliteration separate except the obvious one. It seems to say something about Convoy fighting Megatron in the Amazon and changing shape. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 18:02, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

*“When Convoy battled Megatron in the Amazon, this was his appearance. In order to protect the homes and peace of all living creatures, he changed.”
It would appear he took on this appearance in order to more appropriately battle Megatron in the Amazon jungles. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 18:17, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
: Ah, I didn't think of that angle. I just assumed they were referring to the Convoy that we call Optimus Primal. --[[User:Ratbat|Ratbat]] 23:55, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

:''Ga'' was really confusing me, as my dictionary said it meant "moth". [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 18:41, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

*Ah, "ga" is actually a particle, though there ''is'' a noun "ga" as well. You just kinda have to look at the context. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 18:59, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

==man, whatever steve-o==

BURNING HEART-O PROTECT MY BALLS!!! [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 13:54, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

==Blurgh.==

How come nobody mentions how OpOp's techspecs reference Jetfire? They have the same kind of jet engine, or something like that. Little nifty tidbits like that, 'that's' the kinda stuff we should have here. Honestly.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>