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Steeljaw (DOTM)

2011-12-23T18:52:52Z

71.220.31.140: Adding Fiction section. I KNEW he'd appeared somewhere!

{{faction|autobot|wreckers}}
{{disambig3|Steeljaw}}
:''Steeljaw is an Autobot pet from the ''[[Dark of the Moon]]'' portion of the [[live-action film series]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Steeljaw.JPG|right|thumb|300px|Cute smile.]]

Few are more loyal and brave than the [[Wreckers]]' fearsome pet, '''Steeljaw'''! When they need his expert tracking skills, this [[cyber dog]] puts both his advanced senses and his hydraulic jaws to work. Although bad-tempered and prone to emitting noxious fumes and sparks that can set nearby fields on fire, he's still a valuable addition to the elite engineering crew. Despite being regarded the Wreckers' little schnookums, he's said to be nearly as smart as they are. Hopefully that's not a backhanded indictment of his owners' intelligence.

{{bigquote|Grrrrrr!}}

==Fiction==
While the sinister Soundwave demolishes buildings in downtown Chicago with low-frequency vibrations, the Wreckers face off against him and Laserbeak, with Steeljaw standing steadfast at [[Leadfoot (DOTM)|Leadfoot]]'s side.
{{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon: Mix & Match}}
==Toys==
===Dark of the Moon===
====Human Alliance====
[[Image:SteeljawDOTM.jpg|right|thumb|150px|Woof!]]
*'''[[Leadfoot (DOTM)|Leadfoot]] / [[Sergeant Detour]] & Steeljaw''' (Human Alliance, 2011)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''DA30'''
**''Accessories:'' Missile, leash
:Coming with Leadfoot and Sergeant Detour, Steeljaw is a surprisingly [[Articulation|articulated]] robotic dog that can convert into what might charitably be called a "weapon", which is basically his head flipped up and the limbs arranged into a crossbow-shaped missile launcher. The weapon itself can be pegged onto either Leadfoot's forearm or back via [[MechTech]] ports. Steeljaw also includes a detachable chain 'leash' which can peg to Steeljaw and be pegged into Leadfoot's hand. The leash itself stores in Leadfoot's right arm. Sergeant Detour can also ride him in robot mode.

:Some fansites have also shown Steeljaw in two [[fan mode|unofficial]] [[mace]] and flail modes. After balling his entire body up, the flail mode can be achieved by using the attached leash as the handle, being pegged into Leadfoot's hand, while the mace mode can be alternatively achieved by inserting the missile and using that as the handle instead.
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==Notes==
*Steeljaw appears to be based on a [[wikipedia:Pit_bull|pit bull]], given the cropped ears, squared snout, and stout build.
*He was intended to appear in ''[[Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]'', with [[Josh Nizzi]] having done design work. An early working name for him was "Warpath", which was ''also'' a working name for Wreckers [[Roadbuster (DOTM)|Roadbuster]] and [[Topspin (DOTM)|Topspin]].<ref name="nizzi">[http://www.joshnizzi.com/TF3.htm Josh Nizzi DOTM concepts.]</ref>
*Steeljaw was apparently going to be Leadfoot's car mode engine, backed by the fact that he has engine parts covering his body, however there's no configuration in that Steeljaw can fit inside Leadfoot in car mode.

==Footnotes==
<references />

==External links==
* [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/cybertronian-database.cfm#/characters/steeljaw Steeljaw's entry at Transformers.Com's Cybertronian Database]

[[Category: Dark of the Moon Autobots]]
[[Category: Trackers]]
[[Category: Wreckers]]

Talk:Grimlock (Animated)

2011-12-16T17:53:24Z

71.220.31.140: /* Ancient */

==Spoiler?==
Quoting the article:

"Grimlock took his name by forming a portmanteau out of a sentence spoken by Megatron: "My prospects are grim, locked in this prison of a lab." Who knew he had it in him? In fact, he's the only Dinobot shown to have a name in the cartoon at all."

As of Human Error Part Two, this is no longer the case, but is something as minor as this considered a spoiler?
I'd rather leave the decision to someone more experienced than me.[[User:Thelastallosaur|Thelastallosaur]] 11:55, 26 April 2009 (EDT)

Perhaps we could modify that last line into "In fact, he's the only Dinobot shown to have named himself in the cartoon at all" or something similar. --[[User:Professor Icepick|Professor Icepick]] 12:14, 26 April 2009 (EDT)

== Prototype crotch ==

Seriously, is there ''any'' reason this wiki should discuss minute changes from prototype to production mold such as this? It's not even an officially released toy yet. We've discussed more significant mold changes, but this one just seems pointless.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:03, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

== Survival of the Fittest ==

Shouldn't we add something about him in the episode "Survival of the Fittest"? I would do it myself, but I'm new to this stuff.--[[User:BioTransformer|BioTransformer]] 17:55, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

== Just as strong as MEGATRON ==

http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/animated/default.cfm?page=Bio&character=grimlock{{unsigned|79.166.255.52}}
:Er, yes, and...?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 21:05, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
::I guess that means that there are some Autobots that aren't pansies [[User:Blue.rellik|Blue.rellik]] 06:12, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

==Jovian/thor-like==

So, roman gods not my strong point so I'll leave the jupiter no lightning hammer thing, but we need something better then Thor-like. Sounds so blocky. what about Thunderous fury of Magnus' hammer or something. {{unsigned|GWolfv2|22:20, 6 May 2008}}
:To be honest, I liked the use of "Jovian" in the first place. I thought it was more of a reference to the fact that the hammer shot lightning at the Dinobots. --[[User:Professor Icepick|Professor Icepick]] 22:38, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
::I originally phrased it that way because it is, as Icepick says, a high-faluting way of saying "dude be tossing hella lightning."--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 01:56, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

==An Autobot from the animated continuity family==

Should we chang that? I mean, technically, the dinobots are more along the lines of Wreck -Gar or the Constructicons. Not really aligned, as such [[User:GWolfv2]] 20.28 May 25th

No, because they ARE autobots. Even if they don't say it, the toy states that he is one, and he is leaning more to the Autobot's side(well, prowl and Bulkhead anyway).--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 19:34, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah but the exact same applies to Wreck-Gar. Just thinking out loud, so to speak [[User:GWolfv2]] 20.42 May 25th
:Wreck-Gar also made up his mind at the end if i'm not mistaken, he DID say he wants to be a hero, and was last seen with an autobot emblem.(unlike the constructicons, who pick sides with the ones with the best oil)--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 19:45, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

== Me Grimlock ==

Okay, so I didn't know how else to title it. Anyway...
The line "Me Grimlock will love you and hug you and feed you and pet you and hug you and love you and call you George" seem to be influenced by the character Delete from Cyberchase. I was wondering if it was. {{unsigned|50.42.130.230}}
: It's actually taken from the Abominable Snowman from the old ''Looney Toons'' show. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 14:06, 4 December 2011 (EST)
Thnak you, Mr. Servo The Great. :)
Slag! I meant ''Thank.'' {{unsigned|50.42.130.230}}
:: No problem! :) Just remember to sign your posts with the tilde sign, like so. <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 14:15, 4 December 2011 (EST)
:::Aren't they all based on Lenny from "Of Mice And Men"? --Thy2k, not logged in
::::Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyes. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:09, 4 December 2011 (EST)

==Ancient==

I got the activator toy & im thinking that we should note that it says hes an ancient autobot. If u r wondering if i have any proof to this, I dont, I wripped the box & my mom threw it in the trash. No, i didnt want to preserve it in the box, (im 11 years old, i wanted to play with it)--[[User:Jazzerprime]]
:I checked the bios for the Activators toys on tfu.info, and neither of them suggest he's an ancient Autobot. Is there other text on the packaging which does? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 06:07, 16 December 2011 (EST)
::[http://www.seibertron.com/toys/gallery.php?id=1650&size=0&start=0 I don't see anything.] -Derik 12:53, 16 December 2011 (EST)

User talk:Interrobang

2011-12-16T08:37:49Z

71.220.31.140: /* All Roads Lead to Skynet */ new section

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==Things to get a bot to do==
*Replace all instances of <nowiki>{{m-}}</nowiki> with —.

===Remove redirects===
*[[Generation 1 (cartoon)]] → [[The Transformers (cartoon)]]
*[[Countdown to Extinction]] → [[Countdown to Extinction (episode)]]
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*[[Creation Matrix]] →‎ [[Matrix of Leadership]]
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==Things to do by hand==
===Fix links===
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== Dross ==

''"The extent of what I can gather from Google translate."'' 
Google-translating what, exactly? I see brief mentions of it in the J-Wiki article for ''BWII'' (specifically, in the paragraphs on BigMos and Autostinger), but if you found some other source, I can take a look at it and see if there's anything else to be gleaned.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:47, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
:[http://xeel.aikotoba.jp/storage/bw2/bw2n01.html#インセクトロン]. Many thanks! Can you also glean anything about Planet [[Trius]] (トリアス) from that same site? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 17:07, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
::Okay, that took less time than I thought once I looked at the page.

::Dross is mentioned all of once. During the Dross Crusades, Autostinger saved Bigmos's life.

::Trius comes up twice in the Jointron entry. The Jointrons went out into space to protect Trius on orders from Autobot HQ, but en route, their ship broke down (possibly owing to a problem with their helmsmanship), and they reluctantly crash-landed on Gaia. The summary also notes this may have left Trius more peaceful than if they'd gone there, but doesn't mention it otherwise.
:::Whoo, thanks. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:31, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

== Blind as a bat in battle ==

I can't check the episodes to figure out which right now, but I ''know'' that the Metrodome subs also used this translation in, like, ''one'' instance, late in the series, which would suggest to me that for that one time at least, that's actually what he was saying. I wonder if Shout have extrapolated backwards and used it for all the instances of nonsense-speak in the name of consistency. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:14, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
:Interesting. I'll see if I can get the Metrodome version to check, or see if the TV-Nihon translation has that. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:18, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
::Doing a quick YouTube check (just before bed!), I can say that he actually ''does'' say "Komori" as part of his chant, and that's a word that I ''do'' know the meaning of. So... maybe that IS what he's always saying. (The two TV Nihon episodes I've just sampled don't translate it.) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:20, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
:::Hrm, then I guess I'll comment out those points for the time being, at least till we get a Japanese speaker to confirm. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:25, 4 August 2011 (EDT)

== Almanac stuff ==
Dude, you are a tireless workhorse and I salute your efforts. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 23:50, 9 August 2011 (EDT)
:Thanks! All of those blank sections and red links were annoying me so much that I finally just brought the thing after putting it off for so long. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:54, 9 August 2011 (EDT)
::Any idea which of those planet pages is article 14.000? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 05:43, 10 August 2011 (EDT)
:::[[Giedi Prime]], I think. I aimed for that because it was Sorenson's screen name. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 05:45, 10 August 2011 (EDT)
::::Works for me! And thanks for dealing with all these TAAII planets. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 05:48, 10 August 2011 (EDT)
:::::I must also give you praise for all your work, since you saved ''me'' from having to do it. Also, I think the "dim. research" note on [[Skriixos V]] doesn't actually mean dim but is short for "dimensional research", referencing the Skriix and their being from another dimension. --[[User:Apoc|Apoc]] 06:58, 10 August 2011 (EDT)
::::::Should all those planets from external properties (Gor, etc) be in the External Properties category? --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 07:30, 10 August 2011 (EDT)
:::::::Now that I think about it, yeah. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 07:32, 10 August 2011 (EDT)

That said, are you SURE that all the throw-away companies that are just a name and a number need pages? They were just thrown in there as a joke and to make people in-the-know smile.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 13:57, 11 August 2011 (EDT)
:Uh, yeah. Really, I think that's all best folded into the ASAII reference pages. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 14:08, 11 August 2011 (EDT)
::This is the chaos you have wrought, Jim! (Really, though, I don't see how it's that different from the 100+ "throw-away" planets and it's not like having those articles impede anything. I also think it's neat to learn that those companies exist in Transformers fiction somewhere.) [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 14:10, 11 August 2011 (EDT)
:::Ah, well, a planet that ONLY showed up on that map, and nowhere else in fiction, might not deserve its own page either, now that you mention it. Maybe with an exception for planets that have some other connection to the fiction, like [[Yautja]] since we already have a page for the [[Predator (alien)|Predator]].--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 14:16, 11 August 2011 (EDT)
:::At most I think they'd deserve a redirect page with a "Companies" and "Planets" Categories so they show UP in said Categories, but they should redirect to the ASAII reference section. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 14:17, 11 August 2011 (EDT)

Hehehehe... I just did something nice for you that you won't find out about for a few months... hehehe... --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 23:21, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
:Aw, you made my day. Looking forward to whatever you have planning. :D [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:11, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
::Did you spot it?--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 10:16, 19 November 2011 (EST)
:::Heh, under Cheetor's vehicle mode, right? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 10:24, 19 November 2011 (EST)
::::Bingo. Thanks for all your hard work.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 10:26, 19 November 2011 (EST)
:::::Aw, it isn't anything, but you're welcome. Thanks for the shout out! [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 10:29, 19 November 2011 (EST)

==Great Dome==
Does the Shout! Factory edition of "Four Warriors Come out of the Sky" name the Autobot base on Cybertron "Autobot Base" or "Iacon"? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 01:59, 22 August 2011 (EDT)
:The subtitle for the place name? "Autobot Headquarters". [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 02:10, 22 August 2011 (EDT)
::Yep, that one. Thanks! [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 02:14, 22 August 2011 (EDT)

==AAII==
Are you sure you have not misspelled "Emirate 'Xarron' Spacebridge Nexus" and "Zetca-" (the latter over at "Serpentor") and could you improve "Quartex (region)"? It's an ugly and confusing page right now. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 03:28, 23 August 2011 (EDT)
:Those are spelled as such in the AAII. I'll go off and fix Quartex. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 03:33, 23 August 2011 (EDT)

== My apology. ==

I apologize for attempting to be a part of this wiki community and attempting to add my meager contribution.

Shall log off for the last time shortly.

[[User:Prime Dood477|Prime Dood477]] 07:28, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

==Micron Densetsu titles==
You realize there are English parts of the Japanese episode titles for the series, right? All of which are lower case, and not all of which line up with the actual dub titles?

[http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/MicronDensetsuTitle.jpg Example]

--[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 11:08, 31 August 2011 (EDT)
:The only one that doesn't match (aside from parsing variations) is "First Encounter". That aside, they're only providing the English titles to a Japanese audience; I don't consider them part of the actual Japanese title and the Japanese sources I've seen don't. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 11:32, 31 August 2011 (EDT)

==Japanese Beast Era screencaps==
We have a lot of BWII and BWN screencaps of which the episode is unknown. Since you are sorting out the Japanese BE stuff, do you think you could get them properly sourced? Most are currently in the "Hastak images" category, but I could get them to the "images from unknown sources" category to save you the time finding them in the other category. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 02:43, 9 September 2011 (EDT)
:Sure, I'll see what I can identify. Toss them into unknown sources or list them here. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 02:51, 9 September 2011 (EDT)

==Manga question==
I want to write an article for the ''Go-Bots'' manga later today and I have two questions. The stories are all very simple and can often be described in one or two sentences. Yet, there's a lot of stories. Should I put up a a page for each one or put them all in one article? Also, the manga issues aren't numbered and some appear to have been released at the same time. Should I order them alphabetically or would there be a better option? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 02:56, 22 September 2011 (EDT)
:My gut instinct would be to give an article to every installment; it's easier to give space for featured characters and the infobox that way, instead of clumping them all into one page. Also easier to storylink. In regards to order, I think release date and then alphabetical is fine, if they have no other identifying marks. Were the toys numbered? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 03:03, 22 September 2011 (EDT)
::Seems they were according to the Go-Bots fansite. Ordering by those numbers seems a much better idea, so I'll go with that. Thanks. Oh, and perhaps to prevent pages being put up on the wrong "title", what do you think of translating "かつやく" as "service"? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 03:13, 22 September 2011 (EDT)
:::I need to know the context of the word before I can give any suggestions. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 03:21, 22 September 2011 (EDT)
:::Oh, they're on the fansite. Yeah, "service" seems the most appropriate. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 03:27, 22 September 2011 (EDT)

== Beast manga ==

So do you have access to the Beast Wars II and Neo manga? Because that's the sort of thing I'd be interested in! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:07, 22 September 2011 (EDT)

:Yes. I'm planning to scan it. It will probably come out bad, but we'll see. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 12:28, 22 September 2011 (EDT)

::<nowiki>*</nowiki>flails arms* Whence did you acquire such a thing? What of Beast Wars Metals? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:38, 22 September 2011 (EDT)

:::I bought the collected volumes from some guy in Japan on eBay. They were pretty expensive, but eh. Unfortunately, BWM wasn't collected, so if I want it, I have to hunt down the individual Comic Bom Bom issues, which won't be easy. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 12:40, 22 September 2011 (EDT)

::::Oh, I think I saw them on eBay at one point and thought about them myself! Good on yer! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:43, 22 September 2011 (EDT)

:Hello, I'd like to thanks for those ''Beast Wars'' manga as they are much more useful than my memory! ;-D --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 15:07, 25 September 2011 (EDT)
::You're welcome! [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:08, 25 September 2011 (EDT)

==Double the pages==
[[Deep space receiving tower|Mine from March.]] Choose which one to keep you may. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 01:10, 4 October 2011 (EDT)

== Dubbing vs localization ==

All the recent episodes have that because they were all added by the same newbie anon. It's a foreign dub, I checked it. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:52, 11 October 2011 (EDT)
:Yes, but he was following precedent set elsewhere. "Localization" is used because not all foreign versions are dubs, like the sub-only English releases of Japanese series. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:49, 11 October 2011 (EDT)
::So do we use "localization" as the new standard now? Or is this a case by case basis? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:25, 11 October 2011 (EDT)
:::It's certainly easier having a consistent "Foreign localization" section. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:44, 11 October 2011 (EDT)
::::I'll keep that in mind next time I tackle one of those, thanks! --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:46, 11 October 2011 (EDT)

== Bot ==

Bot to fix redirects is working again. 
This took 5 hours. (Apparently we added more login security in response to Assaulthead.) 
...I assume you wish to queue some up. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:26, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
:Hurm. Well, there's a lot. All of the "Transformers: " moves, for instance. [http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Special:Log/move] If you want me to compile a more specific list, let me know. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 19:34, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
::It's been down for over a year. Should I just set it on whatever has the most redirects? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:24, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
:::Sure, I guess. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:25, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
::::Hrm. Apparently the redirects page doesn't list them by how many links there are to a redirect.
::::Anyway, I've got about 1,100 linkfixes queued up. (As always, it won't deign to do all of them.) This should take about 24 hours for the 'bot to chew through. I figure you can '''redirect''' me after that's done. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:48, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
:::::I've got ~3000 redirect-changes queued up RE: the list you left on my talk page.
:::::One thing the 'bot DOESN'T do is fix links passed as parameters in templates. This didn't USED to be a big deal, but TFWiki.net has seriously increased its usage of templates in the last 2 years or so. I'm going ot take a whack at it tonight and see if I can make it do this.
:::::(The concern is that if a non-link value in a complex template, e.g. 'idw' were the same as a link being fixed, it could screw things up. But we've kept such template values decapitalized and all of these links are capitalized, so I'm hopeful this can be done without mangling pages.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 12:37, 30 October 2011 (EDT)

== Wholesale removing shit again. ==

Is this actually something that was decided upon in some talk page somewhere, or are you merely being yourself again? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:25, 26 October 2011 (EDT)
:Sorry to upset you with the removal of a redundant template from ten or so lists? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:50, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
::Well, yes, those tags WERE redundant, but only after you created new sections that meant the same thing as the tags you were removing. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:13, 30 October 2011 (EDT)
:::There were plenty of "Cancelled" sections already on some pages, though. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 12:20, 30 October 2011 (EDT)

== SG Side Burn photo ==

I made you do that, didn't I? --[[Special:Contributions/218.208.97.226|218.208.97.226]] 15:42, 1 November 2011 (EDT)
:...Maybe. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:43, 1 November 2011 (EDT)

==Deathbringer==
Since you're on an IDW kick, can you separate out the IDW Deathbringer from the Marvel one? They've never struck me as having any similarities beyond sharing a name, but I don't own all of ''Devastation''. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 02:22, 13 December 2011 (EST)
:Now that you bring it up, I agree. Spotlight: Sixshot has a pretty specific description of IDW Deathbringer ("bio-mech bred for combat in the harshest of environments") that doesn't line up with Marvel Deathbringer. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 02:26, 13 December 2011 (EST)
::Hrm. Now that I think about it, does the Deathbringer of Cybertronian myth warrant its own page as well, a la [[Megatron (myth)|Megatron]]? --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 03:24, 13 December 2011 (EST)
:::I don't really agree with the existence of Megatron (myth), since it's obviously a prescient reference to BW Megatron. Ditto for myth Deathbringer. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 10:54, 13 December 2011 (EST)

== All Roads Lead to Skynet ==

I have become convinced you are not human, but instead a Sufficiently Advanced Artificial Intelligence who is now spidering Transformers lore and cross-indexing it like Google for some as-yet-unknown sinister reason.

Good work. -Derik 03:37, 16 December 2011 (EST)

Talk:Crankshot

2011-12-15T06:56:24Z

71.220.31.140:

Crankshaft has clearly had a body upgrade in Spotlight: Doubledealer. He's got an Earth-based altmode, his back is different and he's got a gun-hand.

My question is... am I the only one who sees this "Earth-based" Altmode as being a Prowl remold? It's the grille from Classics Prowl, and the torso from the original toy, complete with hip-packs and abs, and that's pretty much how his arms go... blue the shoulder rockerts, obviously. -[[Special:Contributions/71.220.31.140|71.220.31.140]] 01:48, 15 December 2011 (EST)
:I'm pretty sure you've overthinking this. Crankshot's appearances have different bodies because they weren't drawn to be the same guy. The colorist just made them so. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 01:50, 15 December 2011 (EST)
::Regardless, the generic-who-became-crankshot in Spotlight: Doublebealer looks very Silverstreaky in terms of bodyframe. -[[Special:Contributions/71.220.31.140|71.220.31.140]] 01:56, 15 December 2011 (EST)

Talk:Crankshot

2011-12-15T06:48:59Z

71.220.31.140: Prowl, Bluestreak, Smokescreen and...?