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		<title>Talk:Cliffjumper (WFC)</title>
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		<updated>2012-02-19T20:35:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;71.255.161.217: /* Hi-then-die */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:TfprimeCliffjumperCar.jpg|thumb|No, seriously, he&#039;s going to take you down to Jabroni Drive. Hop in already, he wants to beat the rush hour traffic.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== I&#039;m not supposed to die! ==&lt;br /&gt;
We need to work in a reference to this line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419706/quotes Doom] somewhere. Tongue in cheek trivia note maybe? --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 01:40, 5 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== United Cliffjumper ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s a dead deep link from Generations Cliffjumper to G1 Cliffjumper&#039;s page implying that Takara&#039;s version of WFC Cliffjumper is characterized as an incarnation of G1 Cliffjumper. Since there&#039;s no toy listing on G1 Cliffjumper&#039;s page, I&#039;m really confused now. Is there evidence that Takara considers WFC as part of the G1 continuity? Or is this just completely &amp;quot;Takara makes everything part of G1&amp;quot; conjecture?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 08:22, 8 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== WFC Alt mode ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have checked both Cliffjumpers&#039;s and Bumblebee altmodes in the game (DS version) and I have noticed that their altmodes are slightly different. Clifjumper&#039;s is more square and angular resembling Animated Bumblebee, while Bumblebee&#039;s is rounder, lacking the extra angular details Cliffjumper has. Is it worth noting?-[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 02:02, 7 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:That could probably be slipped into the toy description, like pointing out that his toy&#039;s not accurate to his appearance in the game. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:40, 7 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Can I slip it in the &amp;quot;notes&amp;quot; section?-[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 19:09, 11 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Main page is locked so I&#039;ll bring this up here ==&lt;br /&gt;
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(an announcement that was actually very low-key,[1] but you know, fandoms)&lt;br /&gt;
I find the above line to be excessive, does every new page have to be full of obvious snark against fans? It used to be a little more subtle, but now the word &amp;quot;fandom&amp;quot; pops as much as &amp;quot;this troper&amp;quot; does on tvtropes and I hate to see any site become more like that place ugh. My gripe also goes with how some random dude posting something on some board=the entire opinion of the base.&lt;br /&gt;
:No, it&#039;s definitely true, and hardly &amp;quot;snarky&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;against fans&amp;quot;. As one of those guys &#039;&#039;Totally Psyched&#039;&#039; at the idea of seeing The Rock voice Cliffjumper, I have to say it was indeed the fandom blowing it out of proportion because we&#039;re a fandom and we pay closer attention and spread out small announcements like that. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:14, 28 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Indeed. I saw a LOT of boards go totally apeshit over Johnson&#039;s casting. And I can&#039;t say I blame them, I was stoked all to hell too. But, well, we, and I mean &amp;quot;we as a fandom&amp;quot;, blew it out of proportion. We took that tiny tidbit and assumed more than the news snippets ever implied, built it up to an amazing degree. It&#039;s what fandoms do. In this case, it&#039;s a pretty harmless result, but still. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:55, 1 March 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== pic ==&lt;br /&gt;
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does anybody have a clearer pic of cliffjumper [[User:Rxlthunder|Rxlthunder]] 20:46, 5 March 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Not a Redeco? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Think we should mention somewhere that his Prime rendition isn&#039;t a redeco/edit of a Bumblebee? I was thinking something along the lines of: &amp;quot;A Cliffjumper that isn&#039;t a redeco of a Bumblebee? Blasphemy!&amp;quot; Anybody else thought of something similar? --[[User:Shade743|Shade743]] 13:51, 12 March 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: The first Cliffjumper wasn&#039;t an anything of Bumblebee, either.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:18, 12 March 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==toy picture==&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s here http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/transformers-prime-soundwave-wheeljack-and-cliffjumper-at-nycc-173564/&lt;br /&gt;
: We don&#039;t typically use in-person pics like that; wait for the clear stock photos.  Although, on the subject of Cliff&#039;s toys, I&#039;m wondering if we should list that apparently new mould one that we saw for the first time at NYCC, with the hammer-gun thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;RID&amp;quot; Mold ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Is it just me, or does his &amp;quot;hammer&amp;quot; accessory look like the [[Polarity gauntlet]]?--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 23:20, 20 December 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hi-then-die ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is Cliffjumper a hi-then-die character since he died in the first few minutes of the first episode?[[Special:Contributions/71.255.161.217|71.255.161.217]] 15:31, 19 February 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:How is this relevant to anything? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:32, 19 February 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::It what type of character he is.[[Special:Contributions/71.255.161.217|71.255.161.217]] 15:35, 19 February 2012 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Cliffjumper_(WFC)&amp;diff=688504</id>
		<title>Talk:Cliffjumper (WFC)</title>
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		<updated>2012-02-19T20:31:21Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;71.255.161.217: /* Hi-then-die */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:TfprimeCliffjumperCar.jpg|thumb|No, seriously, he&#039;s going to take you down to Jabroni Drive. Hop in already, he wants to beat the rush hour traffic.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== I&#039;m not supposed to die! ==&lt;br /&gt;
We need to work in a reference to this line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419706/quotes Doom] somewhere. Tongue in cheek trivia note maybe? --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 01:40, 5 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== United Cliffjumper ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a dead deep link from Generations Cliffjumper to G1 Cliffjumper&#039;s page implying that Takara&#039;s version of WFC Cliffjumper is characterized as an incarnation of G1 Cliffjumper. Since there&#039;s no toy listing on G1 Cliffjumper&#039;s page, I&#039;m really confused now. Is there evidence that Takara considers WFC as part of the G1 continuity? Or is this just completely &amp;quot;Takara makes everything part of G1&amp;quot; conjecture?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 08:22, 8 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== WFC Alt mode ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I have checked both Cliffjumpers&#039;s and Bumblebee altmodes in the game (DS version) and I have noticed that their altmodes are slightly different. Clifjumper&#039;s is more square and angular resembling Animated Bumblebee, while Bumblebee&#039;s is rounder, lacking the extra angular details Cliffjumper has. Is it worth noting?-[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 02:02, 7 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:That could probably be slipped into the toy description, like pointing out that his toy&#039;s not accurate to his appearance in the game. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:40, 7 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Can I slip it in the &amp;quot;notes&amp;quot; section?-[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 19:09, 11 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Main page is locked so I&#039;ll bring this up here ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(an announcement that was actually very low-key,[1] but you know, fandoms)&lt;br /&gt;
I find the above line to be excessive, does every new page have to be full of obvious snark against fans? It used to be a little more subtle, but now the word &amp;quot;fandom&amp;quot; pops as much as &amp;quot;this troper&amp;quot; does on tvtropes and I hate to see any site become more like that place ugh. My gripe also goes with how some random dude posting something on some board=the entire opinion of the base.&lt;br /&gt;
:No, it&#039;s definitely true, and hardly &amp;quot;snarky&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;against fans&amp;quot;. As one of those guys &#039;&#039;Totally Psyched&#039;&#039; at the idea of seeing The Rock voice Cliffjumper, I have to say it was indeed the fandom blowing it out of proportion because we&#039;re a fandom and we pay closer attention and spread out small announcements like that. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:14, 28 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Indeed. I saw a LOT of boards go totally apeshit over Johnson&#039;s casting. And I can&#039;t say I blame them, I was stoked all to hell too. But, well, we, and I mean &amp;quot;we as a fandom&amp;quot;, blew it out of proportion. We took that tiny tidbit and assumed more than the news snippets ever implied, built it up to an amazing degree. It&#039;s what fandoms do. In this case, it&#039;s a pretty harmless result, but still. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:55, 1 March 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== pic ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
does anybody have a clearer pic of cliffjumper [[User:Rxlthunder|Rxlthunder]] 20:46, 5 March 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Not a Redeco? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Think we should mention somewhere that his Prime rendition isn&#039;t a redeco/edit of a Bumblebee? I was thinking something along the lines of: &amp;quot;A Cliffjumper that isn&#039;t a redeco of a Bumblebee? Blasphemy!&amp;quot; Anybody else thought of something similar? --[[User:Shade743|Shade743]] 13:51, 12 March 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: The first Cliffjumper wasn&#039;t an anything of Bumblebee, either.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:18, 12 March 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==toy picture==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s here http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/transformers-prime-soundwave-wheeljack-and-cliffjumper-at-nycc-173564/&lt;br /&gt;
: We don&#039;t typically use in-person pics like that; wait for the clear stock photos.  Although, on the subject of Cliff&#039;s toys, I&#039;m wondering if we should list that apparently new mould one that we saw for the first time at NYCC, with the hammer-gun thing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== &amp;quot;RID&amp;quot; Mold ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Is it just me, or does his &amp;quot;hammer&amp;quot; accessory look like the [[Polarity gauntlet]]?--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 23:20, 20 December 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Hi-then-die ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Is Cliffjumper a hi-then-die character since he died in the first few minutes of the first episode?[[Special:Contributions/71.255.161.217|71.255.161.217]] 15:31, 19 February 2012 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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