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Bumblebee (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity

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The [[Bumblebee (G1)|little yellow midget]] was very busy in the [[Marvel Comics]] continuity. He made so many appearances that he gets a page for them.

==Generation 1==
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[[Image:Bumblebeemarvel1.jpg|left|100px|thumb|Bumblebee's first appearance... anywhere.]]
Four million years ago, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] led a crew of [[Autobot]]s including Bumblebee aboard the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] to clear a path through an asteroid belt for [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to pass through. Once their objective was completed, they were attacked by [[Decepticon]]s and both their ships crashed in a volcanic mountain on a primitive planet known as [[Earth]]. In 1984, [[Mount St. Hilary|the volcano]] erupted, awakening their ship, which rebuilt them. Bumblebee was reconfigured to transform into a yellow Volkswagen Beetle. {{storylink|The Transformers (issue)|The Transformers}}

[[Image:Bumblebeeg1earlymodels.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Early on, Bumblebee suffered a few wardrobe malfunctions.]]
[[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] led a mission into a human city to investigate their new world. Bumblebee, anxious to be the first to meet the planet's inhabitants, rear-ended a car full of teenagers watching ''[[A Kiss for Us]]'' at the [[Community Drive-In]]. Before he could introduce himself, he was under attack by Decepticons and damaged badly. One of the teenagers, [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]], brought the car back to his father's auto repair shop. Bumblebee weakly pleaded to them to fix him, for he was dying. Buster's father, [[Sparkplug Witwicky]], fixed Bumblebee and offered to help the Autobots convert their native fuel resources into a form that Transformers could use. Bumblebee took Buster with him back towards the Ark to relay this message. {{storylink|Power Play!}}

After a seemingly final battle with the Decepticons, the long-lost Decepticon [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] arrived and reversed the Autobots' victory with a single blast. {{storylink|The Last Stand}} Bumblebee and the rest of the Autobots were kept captive aboard the Ark until [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] managed to free the Ark from Decepticon control and repair them. {{storylink|DIS-Integrated Circuits!}} However, Buster had been entrusted with safeguarding the [[Matrix of Leadership|Creation Matrix]], which the Decepticons discovered, so Bumblebee and [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] were sent to protect him. Buster was attacked by the Decepticons' newly-built but lifeless [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]. Bumblebee and Bluestreak did their best to defend Buster, but it was Buster's use of the powers of the Creation Matrix which saved them all, disassembling Jetfire in mid-air. Bumblebee removed Jetfire's brain so Buster could reassemble and remote-control the body with his mind. {{storylink|Brainstorm!}}

[[Image:Bumblebeebluestreakbrainstorm.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Kid-appeal guys may seem annoying at first, but wait until we put them next to Bluestreak!]]
''After the Creation Matrix was returned to a restored Optimus Prime, he was still somewhat disconcerted by his ordeal. When the Decepticon spy [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] was briefly captured, only to escape again, Bumblebee saw how much this troubled his already upset leader and took it upon himself to chase down and capture the fleeing spy. Unfortunately, he got in over his head and was captured by [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]'s Decepticons after being led into a box canyon. In order to show the Autobots they meant business, Soundwave had [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] deliver Bumblebee's severed arm to the Ark as a message. Soundwave had learned from Ravage how low Prime's self-confidence was at that juncture, and planned to lure the despondent Autobot leader to his death. Instead, kidnapping Bumblebee just pissed Prime off, and he single-handedly bashed and battered his way through the entire Decepticon front, rescuing Bumblebee and restoring his confidence in the process. {{storylink|Crisis of Command!}}''

''During the Dinobot Hunt, Bumblebee went to Alaska with Optimus and Ratchet to reinforce the unit trying to overcome the rampaging [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] and [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]]. While scouting the perimeter, Bumblebee was shocked to discover a cloaked Autobot shuttlecraft and three of his comrades who had gone missing earlier in the Hunt. He also discovered a Decepticon-issue sonic lance (that was being used to drive Sludge "berserker mad") installed in the ship. Rightly suspecting a booby trap, instead of just turning the device off, Bumblebee instead evacuated his comrades and got a good distance away from the ship before using his gun to blow up the sonic lance. Good call — the shuttlecraft exploded violently the moment he did so. {{storylink|Dinobot Hunt!}}''

[[Image:Bumblebeeplight.jpg|right|100px|thumb|RARR BUMBLEBEE SMASH]]
When the Autobots took steps to fill out their ranks, Bumblebee was charged with giving four new recruits ([[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]], [[Skids (G1)|Skids]], [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]], and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]]) a tour of the planet. Bumblebee decided a [[Brick Springhorn]] concert would be a good destination, but the Decepticons had sabotaged the event to harvest [[Energon (fuel)|energon]]. Bumblebee disobeyed orders and led the four into battle, saving the concert. {{storylink|Rock and Roll-Out!}} When [[Donny Finkleberg|Robot-Master]] appeared on television and claimed to control the Transformers, it was Bumblebee's job to ask their human business partner, [[G.B. Blackrock]] what the deal was. Robot-Master broadcast next in a coal mine next to a de-energized [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]], but before Bumblebee and several other Autobots could investigate, they were pushed away by overwhelming Earth military forces. {{storylink|I, Robot-Master!}}

This event caused Bumblebee to question his usefulness to the Autobots, and he abandoned them without a word. The Decepticons, however, saw much use for him and attempted to apprehend him. Hiding in a used car lot, he was stolen by [[Ernest|two]] [[Waldo Dobbs|humans]], whom he adopted for a while. The Decepticons did not relent, and Bumblebee was ultimately rescued by the rest of the Autobots, an act which reminded him how valuable he was to them. {{storylink|Plight of the Bumblebee!}}

Later, the Autobots decided to create combiner robots of their own, to match the power of the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] and their united form, [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. To accomplish this goal, Optimus Prime staged a frontal assault on the [[Wyoming base|Decepticon quarry base]] as a cover for Bumblebee to infiltrate the area unnoticed. When the Decepticons inevitably unleashed Devastator to counter the Autobot offensive, Bumblebee was on hand to take a sensor recording of Devastator's transformation sequence, giving [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] a blueprint to start from and improve upon. The [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] were soon created as a result of Bumblebee's heroic efforts. {{storylink|Command Performances!}}

On [[Christmas]] Eve, Bumblebee and the Autobots investigated the loss of electricity in [[Midville]]. Discovering the source of the problem was [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]], [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], and their [[power siphon|energy siphon]], Bumblebee helped confront the Decepticons and shoo them away. The human child [[Megan Perry]] asked if he'd help them get to town so they could deliver presents to the needy, and Bumblebee did them one better: he wired the town's Christmas tree to his car's engine to power its lights. {{storylink|The Night the Transformers Saved Christmas}}

[[Image:Goldbugmechanicaldifficulties.jpg|left|200px|thumb|In his earlier appearances, Goldbug kept Bumblebee's body and color scheme.]]
Due to [[#Conflicting Goldbug origins|conflicting circumstances]], Bumblebee was damaged and rebuilt into a stronger but similar form—Goldbug. Goldbug and [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] were ordered by the new Autobot leader, Grimlock, to track down the [[Mechanic (G1)|Mechanic]], who had stolen Autobot technology from the Ark. Grimlock was a terrible leader and had no regard for human life, so both Goldbug and Blaster exiled themselves from his command. {{storylink|Mechanical Difficulties!}} Goldbug and Blaster found themselves in the desert of the American Southwest and, thanks to a run-in with the Decepticon [[Triple Changer]]s, were infested with the disease known as [[Scraplet]]s. Goldbug and his human friend [[Charlie Fong]] left to get help and possibly a cure, but Blaster believed Goldbug had abandoned him to die. {{storylink|Crater Critters}} Near death himself, Goldbug arrived with Charlie at a gas station, where they met up with the [[Throttlebot]]s, sent from Cybertron by [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] and armed with acid to contain the disease. Goldbug narrowly escaped extermination when it was discovered that the cure for Scraplets was none other than ordinary [[water]]. Goldbug called industrialist G.B. Blackrock (on a pay phone), and Blackrock trucked in tanks of water himself. Blaster was cured and his trust in Goldbug was restored. {{storylink|The Cure!}}

[[Image:Goldbugthecure.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Goldbug finished his evolution into his own character model by the time the Throttlebots showed up. He kept Bumblebee's colors, though.]]
''With the Throttlebots joining Goldbug and Blaster on their travels, the group discovered that the bodies of [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] had been found. While they initially intended to let the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]] destroy Galvatron, they were forced to intervene to save human lives. {{storylink|Ladies' Night}} This unfortunately attracted the wrath of the Combaticons.'' The group found refuge in a used car lot owned by [[Big Steve Ludwig (G1)|Big Steve]]. However, they were all badly in need of fuel. They attempted a deal with Big Steve, but he double-crossed them, filling them up with soda pop instead of gasoline. It was then that the [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]] caught up with them, followed by the Combaticons. During the ensuing battle, the immobilized Throttlebots (including Goldbug) were carted away by the humans' anti-robot organization, [[Rapid Anti-robot Assault Team|RAAT]]. {{storylink|Used Autobots}}

Goldbug and the captured Throttlebots were interrogated by [[Intelligence and Information Institute|Triple-I]], who eventually had their bodies crushed in a pointless threat to stop Decepticon raids. However, their brain modules were transplanted by [[Walter Barnett (G1)|Walter Barnett]] into remote-control cars owned by his son, who sought out Goldbug's old friend Buster at Goldbug's suggestion. After being attacked by the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]] and separated from the others, Goldbug and Buster traveled to Mount St. Hilary and found the Ark gone. Using equipment left behind, Goldbug and Buster sent a distress call, just before Ratbat revealed he'd tagged along and crushed the Autobot's toy car body. {{storylink|Toy Soldiers!}}

Arriving in response to his distress call, the Autobot [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] rescued Goldbug's shattered form, [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] patching into his circuits to ease the pain of retelling the attack and capture of Buster. {{storylink|Trial by Fire!}} Taken back to their ship, [[Brainstorm]] built him a new body identical to his Throttlebot form. Goldbug used it on a mission that led to the discovery that Optimus Prime's mind was recorded on [[floppy disk]] and served as his leader's eyes in commanding the Autobot [[Pretender]]s. {{storylink|Pretender to the Throne!}}

Goldbug championed the reconstruction of his former leader's body, until his present allies suggested contacting the Ark to seek the resources to do it. Goldbug was quickly imprisoned by Grimlock, but this allowed him to convince Blaster to fight the Dinobot. After the Decepticons attacked during the pair's duel, Fortress Maximus ordered Goldbug to take the ''[[Steelhaven]]'' and its skeleton crew back to [[Nebulos]] to rebuild Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Totaled!}}

Arriving on Nebulos, Goldbug and the others were successful in rebuilding Optimus Prime despite the planet's now-toxic fuel. Goldbug avoided having to undergo the [[Powermaster]] process to survive like the other Autobots due to his high fuel efficiency. {{storylink|People Power!}} On the journey back, Optimus and Goldbug investigated word of [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] starring in the [[Cosmic Carnival]], eventually rescuing the Autobot and his [[Spacehikers|young human companions]]. {{storylink|The Cosmic Carnival}}

[[Image:Bumblebeeskindeep.jpg|left|175px|thumb|Ratchet cares not for your maturation and wishes you were more like 1984...]]
Goldbug was later destroyed by the [[Underbase]]-powered [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] in [[New York City|New York]]. {{storylink|Dark Star (issue)|Dark Star}} Goldbug was repaired by Ratchet using Pretender technology... sort of. Instead of simply restoring Goldbug, Ratchet rebuilt him as a much larger Bumblebee, {{storylink|All the Familiar Faces!}} explaining that he'd always preferred Bumblebee's original form. Before they could discuss it further, Bumblebee had to help [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] and Grimlock against Megatron and his minions. While the new Pretenders defeated the other Decepticons, Ratchet seemingly sacrificed himself to destroy Megatron and [[Megatron's base|his base]]. {{storylink|Skin Deep}}

Afterward, the three Pretenders briefly joined the Autobot resistance movement on Cybertron. Thanks to his increased stature, Bumblebee experienced a big boost of confidence as he and the others rejuvenated the resistance. In response, [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]] ordered the [[Mayhem Attack Squad]] to assassinate them. As Bumblebee, Jazz, Grimlock and the [[Rescue Patrol (G1)|Rescue Patrol]] prepared to teleport to Earth, the three Decepticons attacked [[Autobase]], sabotaging the [[Trans-Time Dimensional Portal]]. All nine Transformers found themselves teleported into the heart of Cybertron, where the Autobots discovered the resting place of [[Primus]]. {{storylink|Yesterday's Heroes!}}

There, they encountered the [[Keeper (Transformer)|Keeper]] and learned the secret origin of the Transformers, as well as of Primus's never-ending battle with [[Unicron]]. As the Keeper's tale ended, the Mayhem Attack Squad found the Autobots. Their initial attack destroyed the Keeper, but Bumblebee and the others handily defeated them. However, a stray blast woke Primus seconds before the repaired portal sent the Transformers back to Earth. {{storylink|Primal Scream (issue)|Primal Scream}}

[[Image:Bumblebeedarkcreation.jpg|right|200px|thumb|...just like Thunderwing, who killed your gimmick.]]
With Unicron undoubtedly on his way to devour Cybertron, Bumblebee and his fellow Pretenders embarked on a quest to find the lost [[Matrix of Leadership|Creation Matrix]]. The three traveled to [[VsQs]], the last known location of Optimus Prime's funeral barge, to search for clues. Finding an abandoned science station, Bumblebee searched through its computer records. He confirmed that the scientists had found Prime's body and the Matrix, but also a [[Matrixspawn|strange creature]] that promptly attacked one of the scientists. Before they could investigate further, Thunderwing attacked, also seeking the Matrix. Bumblebee used his Pretender shell to combat the Decepticon, only for Thunderwing to destroy it. The feedback temporarily knocked Bumblebee unconscious, and it seemed Thunderwing would destroy all three Autobots, until the Matrixspawn attacked. While Thunderwing pursued the creature, Bumblebee and the other Autobots searched the science station for the Matrix. They recovered it, but were so low on Energon that they were becoming unable to compensate for the moon's heavy gravity. While they were attempting to reach their shuttle, Thunderwing overtook them, seizing the Matrix and leaving them for dead. {{storylink|Dark Creation}} Fortunately for Bumblebee, the Autobots sent a shuttle to rescue him and the others before they entered final shutdown. {{storylink|Eye of the Storm}}

{{note|Although it was not expressly stated on panel, the Classic Pretenders apparently lost their shells on VsQs.}}
Bumblebee survived the war with Unicron, and was one of many Autobots left on Cybertron afterwards. {{storylink|Exodus!}}

=====Marvel UK future timelines=====
''In 2007, Bumblebee was stationed on Cybertron after [[Unicron]] destroyed [[Moonbase Two]]. Under the command of [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]] and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], he helped ambush a [[Airborne hunter squad|group of Decepticon attackers]], catching them in a pre-planned crossfire. ''{{storylink|Wanted: Galvatron — Dead or Alive!}}

=====Earthforce=====
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[[Image:Earthforce.jpg|left|thumb|150px|]]
''When Optimus Prime left Grimlock in charge of protecting Earth, Bumblebee signed up for the new "Earthforce" along with many of his long-time comrades. {{storylink|Break-Away!}} After Prowl disappeared while riding an atmosphere-destroying missile through the stratosphere (long story), Bumblebee and [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] went looking for him. They picked up a set of Transformer lifesigns on a small island in the Bahamas, and took some speeder bikes to investigate. Instead of Prowl, what they found was a massive reconstructed version of [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], half-finished as the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] attempted to recreate their combined form as an independent super-warrior. Luckily, Bumblebee had Ironhide along to disable the automated defense ring protecting the Devastator project, and they were able to destroy "him" before the Constructicons could activate their creation. {{storylink|Desert Island Risks!}}''

''Later, Bumblebee joined Jazz, Ironhide and [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] in infiltrating the Decepticon [[Enclave]]. Fearing an alliance between the two Decepticon factions would be bad news for the Autobots, Ironhide conceived a plan to throw a spanner into the proceedings. Using an unconscious [[Headstrong]] as a patsy, the Autobots staged a sniper shot at Megatron. When Megatron and his Decepticons unleashed their firepower at the rocks where the shot supposedly came from, Jazz and Bumblebee tossed down Headstrong's body, leading Megatron to conclude Shockwave had tried to have him killed. The peace talks quickly went downhill from there. {{storylink|The Bad Guy's Ball!}}''

''Bumblebee was present when Wheeljack showcased his brand-new defense grid to successfully protect Autobot Earthbase. Unfortunately, Wheels forgot that, once activated, the defense system could only be deactivated from inside the base... behind the various laser cannons and heat-seekers and Acidbats he had turned on. While Prowl ran the gauntlet to reach the control center, Bumblebee and Jazz watched his back, drawing fire and disabling what defenses they could. {{storylink|The House that Wheeljack Built!}} Later, Bumblebee and several other Autobots went in pursuit of [[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]] of the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]], who had kidnapped their human ally, [[Irwin Spoon (G1)|Irwin Spoon]]. Weaving their way through the various Stunticons who got in the way, Bumblebee and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] finally managed to trick two of Motormaster's own thugs into running him off the road themselves, giving Bumblebee a chance to rip off his cab door and retrieve Spoon. {{storylink|End of the Road! (UK)|End of the Road!}}''
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====''Transformers Comic-Magazin''====
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Bumblebee was present when Powermaster Optimus Prime led the Autobots against the joint Decepticon leaders Shockwave and Megatron, who had tried to hijack the oil reserves of [[Alaska]]. The Autobots drove off the Decepticons, but not before [[Quickmix (G1)|Quickmix]] accidentally shot a Minibot because he turned off his targetting computer. Bumblebee argued that the Autobots should turn their targetting computers off because while they would be less accurate, they would be faster and more agile. Optimus then sat his troops down and explained to them the differences between Autobots and Decepticons. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 2|Transformers in Action: Attack at Dawn}}

He attended a meeting in which Optimus Prime lectured the Autobots on the basics of their mission and existence, and applauded Slapdash's call for a one-world Autobot government. He notes that if the Autobots were like the Decepticons, they wouldn't have had to drift through space for an eternity and be entombed on Earth for four million years. Later, the Decepticons attack an oil tanker, and he helps the rescue effort as a Classic Pretender. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 6|Transformers in the Battle for Peace: A Big Day for Powermaster Optimus Prime}} He was present when the Decepticons unleashed a robotic hell-beast known as 'King Con' on New York; however Optimus Prime rented a helicopter to fly a banner announcing huge raw oil deposit finds in the Rocky Mountains. After a short hesitation, the Decepticons retreated to pursue these findings. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 7|Transformers — Transforming Robots in Action: New York — A City Sinking in Terror}}

When the Decepticons stole three nuclear missiles from the United State Federation to hold the world to ransom, Optimus Prime ordered that Bumblebee, [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] and [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] be given the power and abilities of Pretenders and sent to defeat the Decepticons. They arrived outside the Decepticon base, but were attacked by Pretender Starscream! Beating Starscream, they then chased off the Firecons in their Pretender shells, leaving Bumblebee to defeat Megatron one-on-one and stop the missile countdown. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 8|Transformers in Action: Megatron's Ultimatum}}

Following a vicious battle he was rebuilt into Goldbug by a cosmic Transformer, but the process had scrambled his mind as he forgot that he had ''been'' Bumblebee. While dozing on security duty, Goldbug accidentally caused the Ark's computers to create a training simulation out of mashed-up footage of previous battles. He was left distraught and confused, trying to send real communications, before realising both the truth and that the constant presence of this "Bumblebee" meant something weird was going on. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 15|The Cosmic Adventure: Memories of Bumblebee}}

====Conflicting Goldbug origins====
[[Image:Goldbugorigins.jpg|left|200px|thumb|One of these things never happened. You choose which! (left: US; right: UK)]]
In ''[[G.I. Joe and the Transformers]]'', Bumblebee was destroyed by [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] due to a misunderstanding. They later rebuilt him as Goldbug with help from Ratchet. However, Marvel UK did not initially print the crossover, so an alternate origin for Goldbug was conceived. In the pages of the UK comic, Bumblebee was destroyed by a time-traveling [[Death's Head (G1)|Death's Head]], yes? Then he was repaired by a time-traveling [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]]. (The Marvel Joe/TF crossover was published in the UK towards the end of the series.) The conflicting origins for Goldbug is the single largest difference between the American and British Marvel Transformers comics; ''most'' everything else kinda sorta meshes together, if you squint.
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==Generation 2==
[[Image:Fangrybumblebeeghosts.jpg|left|150px|thumb|A friendly game of Bumblebowling, honest]]
Years after the battle on [[Klo]], and the Autobots had returned to a renewed Cybertron, Bumblebee received a distress signal from G.I. Joe on Earth, notifying them of Megatron's return. He passed this information on to Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Goin' South}} He also accompanied Prime and a team of Autobots to an unnamed planet home to an ancient civilization which reportedly stored a cache of superweapons, and battled the Decepticons there until a monstrous native scared them away. {{storylink|Ghosts}}

Bumblebee was among the Autobot/Decepticon forces battling the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian Empire]] on [[Ethos]]. {{storylink|Escalation!}}

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===''Generation 2'' (UK)===
[[Image:G2BumblebeeFleetwayWarWithoutEnd.jpg|thumb|Hey, look, it's G2 Elite Guard Bumblebee.]]
Millions of years ago, before the Transformers' war left Cybertron, Bumblebee and Optimus Prime participated in a furious battle against the forces of the Decepticons. {{storylink|War Without End (issue)|War Without End}}
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==''Classics''==
Bumblebee was among the Autobots who returned to Earth with Optimus Prime once word of Megatron's re-emergence reached them on Cybertron. They established a headquarters at [[Autobase Prima]] in the Pacific Northwest. Bumblebee remained behind at headquarters when Optimus and the Autobots helped [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]] on his quest. {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 3}} He was present when they returned from the battlefield with injured soldiers. {{storylink|Games of Deception}}

Bumblebee (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity

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The [[Bumblebee (G1)|little yellow midget]] would make several appearances in the [[Marvel Comics]] continuity, so many, he gets a page for them.

==Generation 1==
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[[Image:Bumblebeemarvel1.jpg|left|100px|thumb|Bumblebee's first appearance... anywhere.]]
Four million years ago, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] led a crew of [[Autobot]]s including Bumblebee aboard the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] to clear a path through an asteroid belt for [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to pass through. Once their objective was completed, they were attacked by [[Decepticon]]s and both their ships crashed in a volcanic mountain on a primitive planet known as [[Earth]]. In 1984, [[Mount St. Hilary|the volcano]] erupted, awakening their ship, which rebuilt them. Bumblebee was reconfigured to transform into a yellow Volkswagen Beetle. {{storylink|The Transformers (issue)|The Transformers}}

[[Image:Bumblebeeg1earlymodels.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Early on, Bumblebee suffered a few wardrobe malfunctions.]]
[[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] led a mission into a human city to investigate their new world. Bumblebee, anxious to be the first to meet the planet's inhabitants, rear-ended a car full of teenagers watching ''[[A Kiss for Us]]'' at the [[Community Drive-In]]. Before he could introduce himself, he was under attack by Decepticons and damaged badly. One of the teenagers, [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]], brought the car back to his father's auto repair shop. Bumblebee weakly pleaded to them to fix him, for he was dying. Buster's father, [[Sparkplug Witwicky]], fixed Bumblebee and offered to help the Autobots convert their native fuel resources into a form that Transformers could use. Bumblebee took Buster with him back towards the Ark to relay this message. {{storylink|Power Play!}}

After a seemingly final battle with the Decepticons, the long-lost Decepticon [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] arrived and reversed the Autobots' victory with a single blast. {{storylink|The Last Stand}} Bumblebee and the rest of the Autobots were kept captive aboard the Ark until [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] managed to free the Ark from Decepticon control and repair them. {{storylink|DIS-Integrated Circuits!}} However, Buster had been entrusted with safeguarding the [[Matrix of Leadership|Creation Matrix]], which the Decepticons discovered, so Bumblebee and [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] were sent to protect him. Buster was attacked by the Decepticons' newly-built but lifeless [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]. Bumblebee and Bluestreak did their best to defend Buster, but it was Buster's use of the powers of the Creation Matrix which saved them all, disassembling Jetfire in mid-air. Bumblebee removed Jetfire's brain so Buster could reassemble and remote-control the body with his mind. {{storylink|Brainstorm!}}

[[Image:Bumblebeebluestreakbrainstorm.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Kid-appeal guys may seem annoying at first, but wait until we put them next to Bluestreak!]]
''After the Creation Matrix was returned to a restored Optimus Prime, he was still somewhat disconcerted by his ordeal. When the Decepticon spy [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] was briefly captured, only to escape again, Bumblebee saw how much this troubled his already upset leader and took it upon himself to chase down and capture the fleeing spy. Unfortunately, he got in over his head and was captured by [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]'s Decepticons after being led into a box canyon. In order to show the Autobots they meant business, Soundwave had [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] deliver Bumblebee's severed arm to the Ark as a message. Soundwave had learned from Ravage how low Prime's self-confidence was at that juncture, and planned to lure the despondent Autobot leader to his death. Instead, kidnapping Bumblebee just pissed Prime off, and he single-handedly bashed and battered his way through the entire Decepticon front, rescuing Bumblebee and restoring his confidence in the process. {{storylink|Crisis of Command!}}''

''During the Dinobot Hunt, Bumblebee went to Alaska with Optimus and Ratchet to reinforce the unit trying to overcome the rampaging [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] and [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]]. While scouting the perimeter, Bumblebee was shocked to discover a cloaked Autobot shuttlecraft and three of his comrades who had gone missing earlier in the Hunt. He also discovered a Decepticon-issue sonic lance (that was being used to drive Sludge "berserker mad") installed in the ship. Rightly suspecting a booby trap, instead of just turning the device off, Bumblebee instead evacuated his comrades and got a good distance away from the ship before using his gun to blow up the sonic lance. Good call — the shuttlecraft exploded violently the moment he did so. {{storylink|Dinobot Hunt!}}''

[[Image:Bumblebeeplight.jpg|right|100px|thumb|RARR BUMBLEBEE SMASH]]
When the Autobots took steps to fill out their ranks, Bumblebee was charged with giving four new recruits ([[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]], [[Skids (G1)|Skids]], [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]], and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]]) a tour of the planet. Bumblebee decided a [[Brick Springhorn]] concert would be a good destination, but the Decepticons had sabotaged the event to harvest [[Energon (fuel)|energon]]. Bumblebee disobeyed orders and led the four into battle, saving the concert. {{storylink|Rock and Roll-Out!}} When [[Donny Finkleberg|Robot-Master]] appeared on television and claimed to control the Transformers, it was Bumblebee's job to ask their human business partner, [[G.B. Blackrock]] what the deal was. Robot-Master broadcast next in a coal mine next to a de-energized [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]], but before Bumblebee and several other Autobots could investigate, they were pushed away by overwhelming Earth military forces. {{storylink|I, Robot-Master!}}

This event caused Bumblebee to question his usefulness to the Autobots, and he abandoned them without a word. The Decepticons, however, saw much use for him and attempted to apprehend him. Hiding in a used car lot, he was stolen by [[Ernest|two]] [[Waldo Dobbs|humans]], whom he adopted for a while. The Decepticons did not relent, and Bumblebee was ultimately rescued by the rest of the Autobots, an act which reminded him how valuable he was to them. {{storylink|Plight of the Bumblebee!}}

Later, the Autobots decided to create combiner robots of their own, to match the power of the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] and their united form, [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. To accomplish this goal, Optimus Prime staged a frontal assault on the [[Wyoming base|Decepticon quarry base]] as a cover for Bumblebee to infiltrate the area unnoticed. When the Decepticons inevitably unleashed Devastator to counter the Autobot offensive, Bumblebee was on hand to take a sensor recording of Devastator's transformation sequence, giving [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] a blueprint to start from and improve upon. The [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] were soon created as a result of Bumblebee's heroic efforts. {{storylink|Command Performances!}}

On [[Christmas]] Eve, Bumblebee and the Autobots investigated the loss of electricity in [[Midville]]. Discovering the source of the problem was [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]], [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], and their [[power siphon|energy siphon]], Bumblebee helped confront the Decepticons and shoo them away. The human child [[Megan Perry]] asked if he'd help them get to town so they could deliver presents to the needy, and Bumblebee did them one better: he wired the town's Christmas tree to his car's engine to power its lights. {{storylink|The Night the Transformers Saved Christmas}}

[[Image:Goldbugmechanicaldifficulties.jpg|left|200px|thumb|In his earlier appearances, Goldbug kept Bumblebee's body and color scheme.]]
Due to [[#Conflicting Goldbug origins|conflicting circumstances]], Bumblebee was damaged and rebuilt into a stronger but similar form—Goldbug. Goldbug and [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] were ordered by the new Autobot leader, Grimlock, to track down the [[Mechanic (G1)|Mechanic]], who had stolen Autobot technology from the Ark. Grimlock was a terrible leader and had no regard for human life, so both Goldbug and Blaster exiled themselves from his command. {{storylink|Mechanical Difficulties!}} Goldbug and Blaster found themselves in the desert of the American Southwest and, thanks to a run-in with the Decepticon [[Triple Changer]]s, were infested with the disease known as [[Scraplet]]s. Goldbug and his human friend [[Charlie Fong]] left to get help and possibly a cure, but Blaster believed Goldbug had abandoned him to die. {{storylink|Crater Critters}} Near death himself, Goldbug arrived with Charlie at a gas station, where they met up with the [[Throttlebot]]s, sent from Cybertron by [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] and armed with acid to contain the disease. Goldbug narrowly escaped extermination when it was discovered that the cure for Scraplets was none other than ordinary [[water]]. Goldbug called industrialist G.B. Blackrock (on a pay phone), and Blackrock trucked in tanks of water himself. Blaster was cured and his trust in Goldbug was restored. {{storylink|The Cure!}}

[[Image:Goldbugthecure.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Goldbug finished his evolution into his own character model by the time the Throttlebots showed up. He kept Bumblebee's colors, though.]]
''With the Throttlebots joining Goldbug and Blaster on their travels, the group discovered that the bodies of [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] had been found. While they initially intended to let the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]] destroy Galvatron, they were forced to intervene to save human lives. {{storylink|Ladies' Night}} This unfortunately attracted the wrath of the Combaticons.'' The group found refuge in a used car lot owned by [[Big Steve Ludwig (G1)|Big Steve]]. However, they were all badly in need of fuel. They attempted a deal with Big Steve, but he double-crossed them, filling them up with soda pop instead of gasoline. It was then that the [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]] caught up with them, followed by the Combaticons. During the ensuing battle, the immobilized Throttlebots (including Goldbug) were carted away by the humans' anti-robot organization, [[Rapid Anti-robot Assault Team|RAAT]]. {{storylink|Used Autobots}}

Goldbug and the captured Throttlebots were interrogated by [[Intelligence and Information Institute|Triple-I]], who eventually had their bodies crushed in a pointless threat to stop Decepticon raids. However, their brain modules were transplanted by [[Walter Barnett (G1)|Walter Barnett]] into remote-control cars owned by his son, who sought out Goldbug's old friend Buster at Goldbug's suggestion. After being attacked by the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]] and separated from the others, Goldbug and Buster traveled to Mount St. Hilary and found the Ark gone. Using equipment left behind, Goldbug and Buster sent a distress call, just before Ratbat revealed he'd tagged along and crushed the Autobot's toy car body. {{storylink|Toy Soldiers!}}

Arriving in response to his distress call, the Autobot [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] rescued Goldbug's shattered form, [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] patching into his circuits to ease the pain of retelling the attack and capture of Buster. {{storylink|Trial by Fire!}} Taken back to their ship, [[Brainstorm]] built him a new body identical to his Throttlebot form. Goldbug used it on a mission that led to the discovery that Optimus Prime's mind was recorded on [[floppy disk]] and served as his leader's eyes in commanding the Autobot [[Pretender]]s. {{storylink|Pretender to the Throne!}}

Goldbug championed the reconstruction of his former leader's body, until his present allies suggested contacting the Ark to seek the resources to do it. Goldbug was quickly imprisoned by Grimlock, but this allowed him to convince Blaster to fight the Dinobot. After the Decepticons attacked during the pair's duel, Fortress Maximus ordered Goldbug to take the ''[[Steelhaven]]'' and its skeleton crew back to [[Nebulos]] to rebuild Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Totaled!}}

Arriving on Nebulos, Goldbug and the others were successful in rebuilding Optimus Prime despite the planet's now-toxic fuel. Goldbug avoided having to undergo the [[Powermaster]] process to survive like the other Autobots due to his high fuel efficiency. {{storylink|People Power!}} On the journey back, Optimus and Goldbug investigated word of [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] starring in the [[Cosmic Carnival]], eventually rescuing the Autobot and his [[Spacehikers|young human companions]]. {{storylink|The Cosmic Carnival}}

[[Image:Bumblebeeskindeep.jpg|left|175px|thumb|Ratchet cares not for your maturation and wishes you were more like 1984...]]
Goldbug was later destroyed by the [[Underbase]]-powered [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] in [[New York City|New York]]. {{storylink|Dark Star (issue)|Dark Star}} Goldbug was repaired by Ratchet using Pretender technology... sort of. Instead of simply restoring Goldbug, Ratchet rebuilt him as a much larger Bumblebee, {{storylink|All the Familiar Faces!}} explaining that he'd always preferred Bumblebee's original form. Before they could discuss it further, Bumblebee had to help [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] and Grimlock against Megatron and his minions. While the new Pretenders defeated the other Decepticons, Ratchet seemingly sacrificed himself to destroy Megatron and [[Megatron's base|his base]]. {{storylink|Skin Deep}}

Afterward, the three Pretenders briefly joined the Autobot resistance movement on Cybertron. Thanks to his increased stature, Bumblebee experienced a big boost of confidence as he and the others rejuvenated the resistance. In response, [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]] ordered the [[Mayhem Attack Squad]] to assassinate them. As Bumblebee, Jazz, Grimlock and the [[Rescue Patrol (G1)|Rescue Patrol]] prepared to teleport to Earth, the three Decepticons attacked [[Autobase]], sabotaging the [[Trans-Time Dimensional Portal]]. All nine Transformers found themselves teleported into the heart of Cybertron, where the Autobots discovered the resting place of [[Primus]]. {{storylink|Yesterday's Heroes!}}

There, they encountered the [[Keeper (Transformer)|Keeper]] and learned the secret origin of the Transformers, as well as of Primus's never-ending battle with [[Unicron]]. As the Keeper's tale ended, the Mayhem Attack Squad found the Autobots. Their initial attack destroyed the Keeper, but Bumblebee and the others handily defeated them. However, a stray blast woke Primus seconds before the repaired portal sent the Transformers back to Earth. {{storylink|Primal Scream (issue)|Primal Scream}}

[[Image:Bumblebeedarkcreation.jpg|right|200px|thumb|...just like Thunderwing, who killed your gimmick.]]
With Unicron undoubtedly on his way to devour Cybertron, Bumblebee and his fellow Pretenders embarked on a quest to find the lost [[Matrix of Leadership|Creation Matrix]]. The three traveled to [[VsQs]], the last known location of Optimus Prime's funeral barge, to search for clues. Finding an abandoned science station, Bumblebee searched through its computer records. He confirmed that the scientists had found Prime's body and the Matrix, but also a [[Matrixspawn|strange creature]] that promptly attacked one of the scientists. Before they could investigate further, Thunderwing attacked, also seeking the Matrix. Bumblebee used his Pretender shell to combat the Decepticon, only for Thunderwing to destroy it. The feedback temporarily knocked Bumblebee unconscious, and it seemed Thunderwing would destroy all three Autobots, until the Matrixspawn attacked. While Thunderwing pursued the creature, Bumblebee and the other Autobots searched the science station for the Matrix. They recovered it, but were so low on Energon that they were becoming unable to compensate for the moon's heavy gravity. While they were attempting to reach their shuttle, Thunderwing overtook them, seizing the Matrix and leaving them for dead. {{storylink|Dark Creation}} Fortunately for Bumblebee, the Autobots sent a shuttle to rescue him and the others before they entered final shutdown. {{storylink|Eye of the Storm}}

{{note|Although it was not expressly stated on panel, the Classic Pretenders apparently lost their shells on VsQs.}}
Bumblebee survived the war with Unicron, and was one of many Autobots left on Cybertron afterwards. {{storylink|Exodus!}}

=====Marvel UK future timelines=====
''In 2007, Bumblebee was stationed on Cybertron after [[Unicron]] destroyed [[Moonbase Two]]. Under the command of [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]] and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], he helped ambush a [[Airborne hunter squad|group of Decepticon attackers]], catching them in a pre-planned crossfire. ''{{storylink|Wanted: Galvatron — Dead or Alive!}}

=====Earthforce=====
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[[Image:Earthforce.jpg|left|thumb|150px|]]
''When Optimus Prime left Grimlock in charge of protecting Earth, Bumblebee signed up for the new "Earthforce" along with many of his long-time comrades. {{storylink|Break-Away!}} After Prowl disappeared while riding an atmosphere-destroying missile through the stratosphere (long story), Bumblebee and [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] went looking for him. They picked up a set of Transformer lifesigns on a small island in the Bahamas, and took some speeder bikes to investigate. Instead of Prowl, what they found was a massive reconstructed version of [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], half-finished as the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] attempted to recreate their combined form as an independent super-warrior. Luckily, Bumblebee had Ironhide along to disable the automated defense ring protecting the Devastator project, and they were able to destroy "him" before the Constructicons could activate their creation. {{storylink|Desert Island Risks!}}''

''Later, Bumblebee joined Jazz, Ironhide and [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] in infiltrating the Decepticon [[Enclave]]. Fearing an alliance between the two Decepticon factions would be bad news for the Autobots, Ironhide conceived a plan to throw a spanner into the proceedings. Using an unconscious [[Headstrong]] as a patsy, the Autobots staged a sniper shot at Megatron. When Megatron and his Decepticons unleashed their firepower at the rocks where the shot supposedly came from, Jazz and Bumblebee tossed down Headstrong's body, leading Megatron to conclude Shockwave had tried to have him killed. The peace talks quickly went downhill from there. {{storylink|The Bad Guy's Ball!}}''

''Bumblebee was present when Wheeljack showcased his brand-new defense grid to successfully protect Autobot Earthbase. Unfortunately, Wheels forgot that, once activated, the defense system could only be deactivated from inside the base... behind the various laser cannons and heat-seekers and Acidbats he had turned on. While Prowl ran the gauntlet to reach the control center, Bumblebee and Jazz watched his back, drawing fire and disabling what defenses they could. {{storylink|The House that Wheeljack Built!}} Later, Bumblebee and several other Autobots went in pursuit of [[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]] of the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]], who had kidnapped their human ally, [[Irwin Spoon (G1)|Irwin Spoon]]. Weaving their way through the various Stunticons who got in the way, Bumblebee and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] finally managed to trick two of Motormaster's own thugs into running him off the road themselves, giving Bumblebee a chance to rip off his cab door and retrieve Spoon. {{storylink|End of the Road! (UK)|End of the Road!}}''
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====''Transformers Comic-Magazin''====
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Bumblebee was present when Powermaster Optimus Prime led the Autobots against the joint Decepticon leaders Shockwave and Megatron, who had tried to hijack the oil reserves of [[Alaska]]. The Autobots drove off the Decepticons, but not before [[Quickmix (G1)|Quickmix]] accidentally shot a Minibot because he turned off his targetting computer. Bumblebee argued that the Autobots should turn their targetting computers off because while they would be less accurate, they would be faster and more agile. Optimus then sat his troops down and explained to them the differences between Autobots and Decepticons. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 2|Transformers in Action: Attack at Dawn}}

He attended a meeting in which Optimus Prime lectured the Autobots on the basics of their mission and existence, and applauded Slapdash's call for a one-world Autobot government. He notes that if the Autobots were like the Decepticons, they wouldn't have had to drift through space for an eternity and be entombed on Earth for four million years. Later, the Decepticons attack an oil tanker, and he helps the rescue effort as a Classic Pretender. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 6|Transformers in the Battle for Peace: A Big Day for Powermaster Optimus Prime}} He was present when the Decepticons unleashed a robotic hell-beast known as 'King Con' on New York; however Optimus Prime rented a helicopter to fly a banner announcing huge raw oil deposit finds in the Rocky Mountains. After a short hesitation, the Decepticons retreated to pursue these findings. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 7|Transformers — Transforming Robots in Action: New York — A City Sinking in Terror}}

When the Decepticons stole three nuclear missiles from the United State Federation to hold the world to ransom, Optimus Prime ordered that Bumblebee, [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] and [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] be given the power and abilities of Pretenders and sent to defeat the Decepticons. They arrived outside the Decepticon base, but were attacked by Pretender Starscream! Beating Starscream, they then chased off the Firecons in their Pretender shells, leaving Bumblebee to defeat Megatron one-on-one and stop the missile countdown. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 8|Transformers in Action: Megatron's Ultimatum}}

Following a vicious battle he was rebuilt into Goldbug by a cosmic Transformer, but the process had scrambled his mind as he forgot that he had ''been'' Bumblebee. While dozing on security duty, Goldbug accidentally caused the Ark's computers to create a training simulation out of mashed-up footage of previous battles. He was left distraught and confused, trying to send real communications, before realising both the truth and that the constant presence of this "Bumblebee" meant something weird was going on. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 15|The Cosmic Adventure: Memories of Bumblebee}}

====Conflicting Goldbug origins====
[[Image:Goldbugorigins.jpg|left|200px|thumb|One of these things never happened. You choose which! (left: US; right: UK)]]
In ''[[G.I. Joe and the Transformers]]'', Bumblebee was destroyed by [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] due to a misunderstanding. They later rebuilt him as Goldbug with help from Ratchet. However, Marvel UK did not initially print the crossover, so an alternate origin for Goldbug was conceived. In the pages of the UK comic, Bumblebee was destroyed by a time-traveling [[Death's Head (G1)|Death's Head]], yes? Then he was repaired by a time-traveling [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]]. (The Marvel Joe/TF crossover was published in the UK towards the end of the series.) The conflicting origins for Goldbug is the single largest difference between the American and British Marvel Transformers comics; ''most'' everything else kinda sorta meshes together, if you squint.
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==Generation 2==
[[Image:Fangrybumblebeeghosts.jpg|left|150px|thumb|A friendly game of Bumblebowling, honest]]
Years after the battle on [[Klo]], and the Autobots had returned to a renewed Cybertron, Bumblebee received a distress signal from G.I. Joe on Earth, notifying them of Megatron's return. He passed this information on to Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Goin' South}} He also accompanied Prime and a team of Autobots to an unnamed planet home to an ancient civilization which reportedly stored a cache of superweapons, and battled the Decepticons there until a monstrous native scared them away. {{storylink|Ghosts}}

Bumblebee was among the Autobot/Decepticon forces battling the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian Empire]] on [[Ethos]]. {{storylink|Escalation!}}

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===''Generation 2'' (UK)===
[[Image:G2BumblebeeFleetwayWarWithoutEnd.jpg|thumb|Hey, look, it's G2 Elite Guard Bumblebee.]]
Millions of years ago, before the Transformers' war left Cybertron, Bumblebee and Optimus Prime participated in a furious battle against the forces of the Decepticons. {{storylink|War Without End (issue)|War Without End}}
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==''Classics''==
Bumblebee was among the Autobots who returned to Earth with Optimus Prime once word of Megatron's re-emergence reached them on Cybertron. They established a headquarters at [[Autobase Prima]] in the Pacific Northwest. Bumblebee remained behind at headquarters when Optimus and the Autobots helped [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]] on his quest. {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 3}} He was present when they returned from the battlefield with injured soldiers. {{storylink|Games of Deception}}

Bumblebee (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity

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==Generation 1==
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[[Image:Bumblebeemarvel1.jpg|left|100px|thumb|Bumblebee's first appearance... anywhere.]]
Four million years ago, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] led a crew of [[Autobot]]s including Bumblebee aboard the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] to clear a path through an asteroid belt for [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to pass through. Once their objective was completed, they were attacked by [[Decepticon]]s and both their ships crashed in a volcanic mountain on a primitive planet known as [[Earth]]. In 1984, [[Mount St. Hilary|the volcano]] erupted, awakening their ship, which rebuilt them. Bumblebee was reconfigured to transform into a yellow Volkswagen Beetle. {{storylink|The Transformers (issue)|The Transformers}}

[[Image:Bumblebeeg1earlymodels.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Early on, Bumblebee suffered a few wardrobe malfunctions.]]
[[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] led a mission into a human city to investigate their new world. Bumblebee, anxious to be the first to meet the planet's inhabitants, rear-ended a car full of teenagers watching ''[[A Kiss for Us]]'' at the [[Community Drive-In]]. Before he could introduce himself, he was under attack by Decepticons and damaged badly. One of the teenagers, [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]], brought the car back to his father's auto repair shop. Bumblebee weakly pleaded to them to fix him, for he was dying. Buster's father, [[Sparkplug Witwicky]], fixed Bumblebee and offered to help the Autobots convert their native fuel resources into a form that Transformers could use. Bumblebee took Buster with him back towards the Ark to relay this message. {{storylink|Power Play!}}

After a seemingly final battle with the Decepticons, the long-lost Decepticon [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] arrived and reversed the Autobots' victory with a single blast. {{storylink|The Last Stand}} Bumblebee and the rest of the Autobots were kept captive aboard the Ark until [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] managed to free the Ark from Decepticon control and repair them. {{storylink|DIS-Integrated Circuits!}} However, Buster had been entrusted with safeguarding the [[Matrix of Leadership|Creation Matrix]], which the Decepticons discovered, so Bumblebee and [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] were sent to protect him. Buster was attacked by the Decepticons' newly-built but lifeless [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]. Bumblebee and Bluestreak did their best to defend Buster, but it was Buster's use of the powers of the Creation Matrix which saved them all, disassembling Jetfire in mid-air. Bumblebee removed Jetfire's brain so Buster could reassemble and remote-control the body with his mind. {{storylink|Brainstorm!}}

[[Image:Bumblebeebluestreakbrainstorm.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Kid-appeal guys may seem annoying at first, but wait until we put them next to Bluestreak!]]
''After the Creation Matrix was returned to a restored Optimus Prime, he was still somewhat disconcerted by his ordeal. When the Decepticon spy [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] was briefly captured, only to escape again, Bumblebee saw how much this troubled his already upset leader and took it upon himself to chase down and capture the fleeing spy. Unfortunately, he got in over his head and was captured by [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]'s Decepticons after being led into a box canyon. In order to show the Autobots they meant business, Soundwave had [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] deliver Bumblebee's severed arm to the Ark as a message. Soundwave had learned from Ravage how low Prime's self-confidence was at that juncture, and planned to lure the despondent Autobot leader to his death. Instead, kidnapping Bumblebee just pissed Prime off, and he single-handedly bashed and battered his way through the entire Decepticon front, rescuing Bumblebee and restoring his confidence in the process. {{storylink|Crisis of Command!}}''

''During the Dinobot Hunt, Bumblebee went to Alaska with Optimus and Ratchet to reinforce the unit trying to overcome the rampaging [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] and [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]]. While scouting the perimeter, Bumblebee was shocked to discover a cloaked Autobot shuttlecraft and three of his comrades who had gone missing earlier in the Hunt. He also discovered a Decepticon-issue sonic lance (that was being used to drive Sludge "berserker mad") installed in the ship. Rightly suspecting a booby trap, instead of just turning the device off, Bumblebee instead evacuated his comrades and got a good distance away from the ship before using his gun to blow up the sonic lance. Good call — the shuttlecraft exploded violently the moment he did so. {{storylink|Dinobot Hunt!}}''

[[Image:Bumblebeeplight.jpg|right|100px|thumb|RARR BUMBLEBEE SMASH]]
When the Autobots took steps to fill out their ranks, Bumblebee was charged with giving four new recruits ([[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]], [[Skids (G1)|Skids]], [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]], and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]]) a tour of the planet. Bumblebee decided a [[Brick Springhorn]] concert would be a good destination, but the Decepticons had sabotaged the event to harvest [[Energon (fuel)|energon]]. Bumblebee disobeyed orders and led the four into battle, saving the concert. {{storylink|Rock and Roll-Out!}} When [[Donny Finkleberg|Robot-Master]] appeared on television and claimed to control the Transformers, it was Bumblebee's job to ask their human business partner, [[G.B. Blackrock]] what the deal was. Robot-Master broadcast next in a coal mine next to a de-energized [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]], but before Bumblebee and several other Autobots could investigate, they were pushed away by overwhelming Earth military forces. {{storylink|I, Robot-Master!}}

This event caused Bumblebee to question his usefulness to the Autobots, and he abandoned them without a word. The Decepticons, however, saw much use for him and attempted to apprehend him. Hiding in a used car lot, he was stolen by [[Ernest|two]] [[Waldo Dobbs|humans]], whom he adopted for a while. The Decepticons did not relent, and Bumblebee was ultimately rescued by the rest of the Autobots, an act which reminded him how valuable he was to them. {{storylink|Plight of the Bumblebee!}}

Later, the Autobots decided to create combiner robots of their own, to match the power of the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] and their united form, [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. To accomplish this goal, Optimus Prime staged a frontal assault on the [[Wyoming base|Decepticon quarry base]] as a cover for Bumblebee to infiltrate the area unnoticed. When the Decepticons inevitably unleashed Devastator to counter the Autobot offensive, Bumblebee was on hand to take a sensor recording of Devastator's transformation sequence, giving [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] a blueprint to start from and improve upon. The [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] were soon created as a result of Bumblebee's heroic efforts. {{storylink|Command Performances!}}

On [[Christmas]] Eve, Bumblebee and the Autobots investigated the loss of electricity in [[Midville]]. Discovering the source of the problem was [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]], [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], and their [[power siphon|energy siphon]], Bumblebee helped confront the Decepticons and shoo them away. The human child [[Megan Perry]] asked if he'd help them get to town so they could deliver presents to the needy, and Bumblebee did them one better: he wired the town's Christmas tree to his car's engine to power its lights. {{storylink|The Night the Transformers Saved Christmas}}

[[Image:Goldbugmechanicaldifficulties.jpg|left|200px|thumb|In his earlier appearances, Goldbug kept Bumblebee's body and color scheme.]]
Due to [[#Conflicting Goldbug origins|conflicting circumstances]], Bumblebee was damaged and rebuilt into a stronger but similar form—Goldbug. Goldbug and [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] were ordered by the new Autobot leader, Grimlock, to track down the [[Mechanic (G1)|Mechanic]], who had stolen Autobot technology from the Ark. Grimlock was a terrible leader and had no regard for human life, so both Goldbug and Blaster exiled themselves from his command. {{storylink|Mechanical Difficulties!}} Goldbug and Blaster found themselves in the desert of the American Southwest and, thanks to a run-in with the Decepticon [[Triple Changer]]s, were infested with the disease known as [[Scraplet]]s. Goldbug and his human friend [[Charlie Fong]] left to get help and possibly a cure, but Blaster believed Goldbug had abandoned him to die. {{storylink|Crater Critters}} Near death himself, Goldbug arrived with Charlie at a gas station, where they met up with the [[Throttlebot]]s, sent from Cybertron by [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] and armed with acid to contain the disease. Goldbug narrowly escaped extermination when it was discovered that the cure for Scraplets was none other than ordinary [[water]]. Goldbug called industrialist G.B. Blackrock (on a pay phone), and Blackrock trucked in tanks of water himself. Blaster was cured and his trust in Goldbug was restored. {{storylink|The Cure!}}

[[Image:Goldbugthecure.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Goldbug finished his evolution into his own character model by the time the Throttlebots showed up. He kept Bumblebee's colors, though.]]
''With the Throttlebots joining Goldbug and Blaster on their travels, the group discovered that the bodies of [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] had been found. While they initially intended to let the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]] destroy Galvatron, they were forced to intervene to save human lives. {{storylink|Ladies' Night}} This unfortunately attracted the wrath of the Combaticons.'' The group found refuge in a used car lot owned by [[Big Steve Ludwig (G1)|Big Steve]]. However, they were all badly in need of fuel. They attempted a deal with Big Steve, but he double-crossed them, filling them up with soda pop instead of gasoline. It was then that the [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]] caught up with them, followed by the Combaticons. During the ensuing battle, the immobilized Throttlebots (including Goldbug) were carted away by the humans' anti-robot organization, [[Rapid Anti-robot Assault Team|RAAT]]. {{storylink|Used Autobots}}

Goldbug and the captured Throttlebots were interrogated by [[Intelligence and Information Institute|Triple-I]], who eventually had their bodies crushed in a pointless threat to stop Decepticon raids. However, their brain modules were transplanted by [[Walter Barnett (G1)|Walter Barnett]] into remote-control cars owned by his son, who sought out Goldbug's old friend Buster at Goldbug's suggestion. After being attacked by the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]] and separated from the others, Goldbug and Buster traveled to Mount St. Hilary and found the Ark gone. Using equipment left behind, Goldbug and Buster sent a distress call, just before Ratbat revealed he'd tagged along and crushed the Autobot's toy car body. {{storylink|Toy Soldiers!}}

Arriving in response to his distress call, the Autobot [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] rescued Goldbug's shattered form, [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] patching into his circuits to ease the pain of retelling the attack and capture of Buster. {{storylink|Trial by Fire!}} Taken back to their ship, [[Brainstorm]] built him a new body identical to his Throttlebot form. Goldbug used it on a mission that led to the discovery that Optimus Prime's mind was recorded on [[floppy disk]] and served as his leader's eyes in commanding the Autobot [[Pretender]]s. {{storylink|Pretender to the Throne!}}

Goldbug championed the reconstruction of his former leader's body, until his present allies suggested contacting the Ark to seek the resources to do it. Goldbug was quickly imprisoned by Grimlock, but this allowed him to convince Blaster to fight the Dinobot. After the Decepticons attacked during the pair's duel, Fortress Maximus ordered Goldbug to take the ''[[Steelhaven]]'' and its skeleton crew back to [[Nebulos]] to rebuild Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Totaled!}}

Arriving on Nebulos, Goldbug and the others were successful in rebuilding Optimus Prime despite the planet's now-toxic fuel. Goldbug avoided having to undergo the [[Powermaster]] process to survive like the other Autobots due to his high fuel efficiency. {{storylink|People Power!}} On the journey back, Optimus and Goldbug investigated word of [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] starring in the [[Cosmic Carnival]], eventually rescuing the Autobot and his [[Spacehikers|young human companions]]. {{storylink|The Cosmic Carnival}}

[[Image:Bumblebeeskindeep.jpg|left|175px|thumb|Ratchet cares not for your maturation and wishes you were more like 1984...]]
Goldbug was later destroyed by the [[Underbase]]-powered [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] in [[New York City|New York]]. {{storylink|Dark Star (issue)|Dark Star}} Goldbug was repaired by Ratchet using Pretender technology... sort of. Instead of simply restoring Goldbug, Ratchet rebuilt him as a much larger Bumblebee, {{storylink|All the Familiar Faces!}} explaining that he'd always preferred Bumblebee's original form. Before they could discuss it further, Bumblebee had to help [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] and Grimlock against Megatron and his minions. While the new Pretenders defeated the other Decepticons, Ratchet seemingly sacrificed himself to destroy Megatron and [[Megatron's base|his base]]. {{storylink|Skin Deep}}

Afterward, the three Pretenders briefly joined the Autobot resistance movement on Cybertron. Thanks to his increased stature, Bumblebee experienced a big boost of confidence as he and the others rejuvenated the resistance. In response, [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]] ordered the [[Mayhem Attack Squad]] to assassinate them. As Bumblebee, Jazz, Grimlock and the [[Rescue Patrol (G1)|Rescue Patrol]] prepared to teleport to Earth, the three Decepticons attacked [[Autobase]], sabotaging the [[Trans-Time Dimensional Portal]]. All nine Transformers found themselves teleported into the heart of Cybertron, where the Autobots discovered the resting place of [[Primus]]. {{storylink|Yesterday's Heroes!}}

There, they encountered the [[Keeper (Transformer)|Keeper]] and learned the secret origin of the Transformers, as well as of Primus's never-ending battle with [[Unicron]]. As the Keeper's tale ended, the Mayhem Attack Squad found the Autobots. Their initial attack destroyed the Keeper, but Bumblebee and the others handily defeated them. However, a stray blast woke Primus seconds before the repaired portal sent the Transformers back to Earth. {{storylink|Primal Scream (issue)|Primal Scream}}

[[Image:Bumblebeedarkcreation.jpg|right|200px|thumb|...just like Thunderwing, who killed your gimmick.]]
With Unicron undoubtedly on his way to devour Cybertron, Bumblebee and his fellow Pretenders embarked on a quest to find the lost [[Matrix of Leadership|Creation Matrix]]. The three traveled to [[VsQs]], the last known location of Optimus Prime's funeral barge, to search for clues. Finding an abandoned science station, Bumblebee searched through its computer records. He confirmed that the scientists had found Prime's body and the Matrix, but also a [[Matrixspawn|strange creature]] that promptly attacked one of the scientists. Before they could investigate further, Thunderwing attacked, also seeking the Matrix. Bumblebee used his Pretender shell to combat the Decepticon, only for Thunderwing to destroy it. The feedback temporarily knocked Bumblebee unconscious, and it seemed Thunderwing would destroy all three Autobots, until the Matrixspawn attacked. While Thunderwing pursued the creature, Bumblebee and the other Autobots searched the science station for the Matrix. They recovered it, but were so low on Energon that they were becoming unable to compensate for the moon's heavy gravity. While they were attempting to reach their shuttle, Thunderwing overtook them, seizing the Matrix and leaving them for dead. {{storylink|Dark Creation}} Fortunately for Bumblebee, the Autobots sent a shuttle to rescue him and the others before they entered final shutdown. {{storylink|Eye of the Storm}}

{{note|Although it was not expressly stated on panel, the Classic Pretenders apparently lost their shells on VsQs.}}
Bumblebee survived the war with Unicron, and was one of many Autobots left on Cybertron afterwards. {{storylink|Exodus!}}

=====Marvel UK future timelines=====
''In 2007, Bumblebee was stationed on Cybertron after [[Unicron]] destroyed [[Moonbase Two]]. Under the command of [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]] and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], he helped ambush a [[Airborne hunter squad|group of Decepticon attackers]], catching them in a pre-planned crossfire. ''{{storylink|Wanted: Galvatron — Dead or Alive!}}

=====Earthforce=====
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''When Optimus Prime left Grimlock in charge of protecting Earth, Bumblebee signed up for the new "Earthforce" along with many of his long-time comrades. {{storylink|Break-Away!}} After Prowl disappeared while riding an atmosphere-destroying missile through the stratosphere (long story), Bumblebee and [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] went looking for him. They picked up a set of Transformer lifesigns on a small island in the Bahamas, and took some speeder bikes to investigate. Instead of Prowl, what they found was a massive reconstructed version of [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], half-finished as the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] attempted to recreate their combined form as an independent super-warrior. Luckily, Bumblebee had Ironhide along to disable the automated defense ring protecting the Devastator project, and they were able to destroy "him" before the Constructicons could activate their creation. {{storylink|Desert Island Risks!}}''

''Later, Bumblebee joined Jazz, Ironhide and [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] in infiltrating the Decepticon [[Enclave]]. Fearing an alliance between the two Decepticon factions would be bad news for the Autobots, Ironhide conceived a plan to throw a spanner into the proceedings. Using an unconscious [[Headstrong]] as a patsy, the Autobots staged a sniper shot at Megatron. When Megatron and his Decepticons unleashed their firepower at the rocks where the shot supposedly came from, Jazz and Bumblebee tossed down Headstrong's body, leading Megatron to conclude Shockwave had tried to have him killed. The peace talks quickly went downhill from there. {{storylink|The Bad Guy's Ball!}}''

''Bumblebee was present when Wheeljack showcased his brand-new defense grid to successfully protect Autobot Earthbase. Unfortunately, Wheels forgot that, once activated, the defense system could only be deactivated from inside the base... behind the various laser cannons and heat-seekers and Acidbats he had turned on. While Prowl ran the gauntlet to reach the control center, Bumblebee and Jazz watched his back, drawing fire and disabling what defenses they could. {{storylink|The House that Wheeljack Built!}} Later, Bumblebee and several other Autobots went in pursuit of [[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]] of the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]], who had kidnapped their human ally, [[Irwin Spoon (G1)|Irwin Spoon]]. Weaving their way through the various Stunticons who got in the way, Bumblebee and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] finally managed to trick two of Motormaster's own thugs into running him off the road themselves, giving Bumblebee a chance to rip off his cab door and retrieve Spoon. {{storylink|End of the Road! (UK)|End of the Road!}}''
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====''Transformers Comic-Magazin''====
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Bumblebee was present when Powermaster Optimus Prime led the Autobots against the joint Decepticon leaders Shockwave and Megatron, who had tried to hijack the oil reserves of [[Alaska]]. The Autobots drove off the Decepticons, but not before [[Quickmix (G1)|Quickmix]] accidentally shot a Minibot because he turned off his targetting computer. Bumblebee argued that the Autobots should turn their targetting computers off because while they would be less accurate, they would be faster and more agile. Optimus then sat his troops down and explained to them the differences between Autobots and Decepticons. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 2|Transformers in Action: Attack at Dawn}}

He attended a meeting in which Optimus Prime lectured the Autobots on the basics of their mission and existence, and applauded Slapdash's call for a one-world Autobot government. He notes that if the Autobots were like the Decepticons, they wouldn't have had to drift through space for an eternity and be entombed on Earth for four million years. Later, the Decepticons attack an oil tanker, and he helps the rescue effort as a Classic Pretender. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 6|Transformers in the Battle for Peace: A Big Day for Powermaster Optimus Prime}} He was present when the Decepticons unleashed a robotic hell-beast known as 'King Con' on New York; however Optimus Prime rented a helicopter to fly a banner announcing huge raw oil deposit finds in the Rocky Mountains. After a short hesitation, the Decepticons retreated to pursue these findings. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 7|Transformers — Transforming Robots in Action: New York — A City Sinking in Terror}}

When the Decepticons stole three nuclear missiles from the United State Federation to hold the world to ransom, Optimus Prime ordered that Bumblebee, [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] and [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] be given the power and abilities of Pretenders and sent to defeat the Decepticons. They arrived outside the Decepticon base, but were attacked by Pretender Starscream! Beating Starscream, they then chased off the Firecons in their Pretender shells, leaving Bumblebee to defeat Megatron one-on-one and stop the missile countdown. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 8|Transformers in Action: Megatron's Ultimatum}}

Following a vicious battle he was rebuilt into Goldbug by a cosmic Transformer, but the process had scrambled his mind as he forgot that he had ''been'' Bumblebee. While dozing on security duty, Goldbug accidentally caused the Ark's computers to create a training simulation out of mashed-up footage of previous battles. He was left distraught and confused, trying to send real communications, before realising both the truth and that the constant presence of this "Bumblebee" meant something weird was going on. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 15|The Cosmic Adventure: Memories of Bumblebee}}

====Conflicting Goldbug origins====
[[Image:Goldbugorigins.jpg|left|200px|thumb|One of these things never happened. You choose which! (left: US; right: UK)]]
In ''[[G.I. Joe and the Transformers]]'', Bumblebee was destroyed by [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] due to a misunderstanding. They later rebuilt him as Goldbug with help from Ratchet. However, Marvel UK did not initially print the crossover, so an alternate origin for Goldbug was conceived. In the pages of the UK comic, Bumblebee was destroyed by a time-traveling [[Death's Head (G1)|Death's Head]], yes? Then he was repaired by a time-traveling [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]]. (The Marvel Joe/TF crossover was published in the UK towards the end of the series.) The conflicting origins for Goldbug is the single largest difference between the American and British Marvel Transformers comics; ''most'' everything else kinda sorta meshes together, if you squint.
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==Generation 2==
[[Image:Fangrybumblebeeghosts.jpg|left|150px|thumb|A friendly game of Bumblebowling, honest]]
Years after the battle on [[Klo]], and the Autobots had returned to a renewed Cybertron, Bumblebee received a distress signal from G.I. Joe on Earth, notifying them of Megatron's return. He passed this information on to Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Goin' South}} He also accompanied Prime and a team of Autobots to an unnamed planet home to an ancient civilization which reportedly stored a cache of superweapons, and battled the Decepticons there until a monstrous native scared them away. {{storylink|Ghosts}}

Bumblebee was among the Autobot/Decepticon forces battling the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian Empire]] on [[Ethos]]. {{storylink|Escalation!}}

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===''Generation 2'' (UK)===
[[Image:G2BumblebeeFleetwayWarWithoutEnd.jpg|thumb|Hey, look, it's G2 Elite Guard Bumblebee.]]
Millions of years ago, before the Transformers' war left Cybertron, Bumblebee and Optimus Prime participated in a furious battle against the forces of the Decepticons. {{storylink|War Without End (issue)|War Without End}}
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==''Classics''==
Bumblebee was among the Autobots who returned to Earth with Optimus Prime once word of Megatron's re-emergence reached them on Cybertron. They established a headquarters at [[Autobase Prima]] in the Pacific Northwest. Bumblebee remained behind at headquarters when Optimus and the Autobots helped [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]] on his quest. {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 3}} He was present when they returned from the battlefield with injured soldiers. {{storylink|Games of Deception}}

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[[Image:Bumblebeemarvel1.jpg|left|100px|thumb|Bumblebee's first appearance... anywhere.]]
Four million years ago, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] led a crew of [[Autobot]]s including Bumblebee aboard the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] to clear a path through an asteroid belt for [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to pass through. Once their objective was completed, they were attacked by [[Decepticon]]s and both their ships crashed in a volcanic mountain on a primitive planet known as [[Earth]]. In 1984, [[Mount St. Hilary|the volcano]] erupted, awakening their ship, which rebuilt them. Bumblebee was reconfigured to transform into a yellow Volkswagen Beetle. {{storylink|The Transformers (issue)|The Transformers}}

[[Image:Bumblebeeg1earlymodels.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Early on, Bumblebee suffered a few wardrobe malfunctions.]]
[[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] led a mission into a human city to investigate their new world. Bumblebee, anxious to be the first to meet the planet's inhabitants, rear-ended a car full of teenagers watching ''[[A Kiss for Us]]'' at the [[Community Drive-In]]. Before he could introduce himself, he was under attack by Decepticons and damaged badly. One of the teenagers, [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]], brought the car back to his father's auto repair shop. Bumblebee weakly pleaded to them to fix him, for he was dying. Buster's father, [[Sparkplug Witwicky]], fixed Bumblebee and offered to help the Autobots convert their native fuel resources into a form that Transformers could use. Bumblebee took Buster with him back towards the Ark to relay this message. {{storylink|Power Play!}}

After a seemingly final battle with the Decepticons, the long-lost Decepticon [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] arrived and reversed the Autobots' victory with a single blast. {{storylink|The Last Stand}} Bumblebee and the rest of the Autobots were kept captive aboard the Ark until [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] managed to free the Ark from Decepticon control and repair them. {{storylink|DIS-Integrated Circuits!}} However, Buster had been entrusted with safeguarding the [[Matrix of Leadership|Creation Matrix]], which the Decepticons discovered, so Bumblebee and [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] were sent to protect him. Buster was attacked by the Decepticons' newly-built but lifeless [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]. Bumblebee and Bluestreak did their best to defend Buster, but it was Buster's use of the powers of the Creation Matrix which saved them all, disassembling Jetfire in mid-air. Bumblebee removed Jetfire's brain so Buster could reassemble and remote-control the body with his mind. {{storylink|Brainstorm!}}

[[Image:Bumblebeebluestreakbrainstorm.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Kid-appeal guys may seem annoying at first, but wait until we put them next to Bluestreak!]]
''After the Creation Matrix was returned to a restored Optimus Prime, he was still somewhat disconcerted by his ordeal. When the Decepticon spy [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] was briefly captured, only to escape again, Bumblebee saw how much this troubled his already upset leader and took it upon himself to chase down and capture the fleeing spy. Unfortunately, he got in over his head and was captured by [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]'s Decepticons after being led into a box canyon. In order to show the Autobots they meant business, Soundwave had [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] deliver Bumblebee's severed arm to the Ark as a message. Soundwave had learned from Ravage how low Prime's self-confidence was at that juncture, and planned to lure the despondent Autobot leader to his death. Instead, kidnapping Bumblebee just pissed Prime off, and he single-handedly bashed and battered his way through the entire Decepticon front, rescuing Bumblebee and restoring his confidence in the process. {{storylink|Crisis of Command!}}''

''During the Dinobot Hunt, Bumblebee went to Alaska with Optimus and Ratchet to reinforce the unit trying to overcome the rampaging [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] and [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]]. While scouting the perimeter, Bumblebee was shocked to discover a cloaked Autobot shuttlecraft and three of his comrades who had gone missing earlier in the Hunt. He also discovered a Decepticon-issue sonic lance (that was being used to drive Sludge "berserker mad") installed in the ship. Rightly suspecting a booby trap, instead of just turning the device off, Bumblebee instead evacuated his comrades and got a good distance away from the ship before using his gun to blow up the sonic lance. Good call — the shuttlecraft exploded violently the moment he did so. {{storylink|Dinobot Hunt!}}''

[[Image:Bumblebeeplight.jpg|right|100px|thumb|RARR BUMBLEBEE SMASH]]
When the Autobots took steps to fill out their ranks, Bumblebee was charged with giving four new recruits ([[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]], [[Skids (G1)|Skids]], [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]], and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]]) a tour of the planet. Bumblebee decided a [[Brick Springhorn]] concert would be a good destination, but the Decepticons had sabotaged the event to harvest [[Energon (fuel)|energon]]. Bumblebee disobeyed orders and led the four into battle, saving the concert. {{storylink|Rock and Roll-Out!}} When [[Donny Finkleberg|Robot-Master]] appeared on television and claimed to control the Transformers, it was Bumblebee's job to ask their human business partner, [[G.B. Blackrock]] what the deal was. Robot-Master broadcast next in a coal mine next to a de-energized [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]], but before Bumblebee and several other Autobots could investigate, they were pushed away by overwhelming Earth military forces. {{storylink|I, Robot-Master!}}

This event caused Bumblebee to question his usefulness to the Autobots, and he abandoned them without a word. The Decepticons, however, saw much use for him and attempted to apprehend him. Hiding in a used car lot, he was stolen by [[Ernest|two]] [[Waldo Dobbs|humans]], whom he adopted for a while. The Decepticons did not relent, and Bumblebee was ultimately rescued by the rest of the Autobots, an act which reminded him how valuable he was to them. {{storylink|Plight of the Bumblebee!}}

Later, the Autobots decided to create combiner robots of their own, to match the power of the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] and their united form, [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. To accomplish this goal, Optimus Prime staged a frontal assault on the [[Wyoming base|Decepticon quarry base]] as a cover for Bumblebee to infiltrate the area unnoticed. When the Decepticons inevitably unleashed Devastator to counter the Autobot offensive, Bumblebee was on hand to take a sensor recording of Devastator's transformation sequence, giving [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] a blueprint to start from and improve upon. The [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] were soon created as a result of Bumblebee's heroic efforts. {{storylink|Command Performances!}}

On [[Christmas]] Eve, Bumblebee and the Autobots investigated the loss of electricity in [[Midville]]. Discovering the source of the problem was [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]], [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], and their [[power siphon|energy siphon]], Bumblebee helped confront the Decepticons and shoo them away. The human child [[Megan Perry]] asked if he'd help them get to town so they could deliver presents to the needy, and Bumblebee did them one better: he wired the town's Christmas tree to his car's engine to power its lights. {{storylink|The Night the Transformers Saved Christmas}}

[[Image:Goldbugmechanicaldifficulties.jpg|left|200px|thumb|In his earlier appearances, Goldbug kept Bumblebee's body and color scheme.]]
Due to [[#Conflicting Goldbug origins|conflicting circumstances]], Bumblebee was damaged and rebuilt into a stronger but similar form—Goldbug. Goldbug and [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] were ordered by the new Autobot leader, Grimlock, to track down the [[Mechanic (G1)|Mechanic]], who had stolen Autobot technology from the Ark. Grimlock was a terrible leader and had no regard for human life, so both Goldbug and Blaster exiled themselves from his command. {{storylink|Mechanical Difficulties!}} Goldbug and Blaster found themselves in the desert of the American Southwest and, thanks to a run-in with the Decepticon [[Triple Changer]]s, were infested with the disease known as [[Scraplet]]s. Goldbug and his human friend [[Charlie Fong]] left to get help and possibly a cure, but Blaster believed Goldbug had abandoned him to die. {{storylink|Crater Critters}} Near death himself, Goldbug arrived with Charlie at a gas station, where they met up with the [[Throttlebot]]s, sent from Cybertron by [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] and armed with acid to contain the disease. Goldbug narrowly escaped extermination when it was discovered that the cure for Scraplets was none other than ordinary [[water]]. Goldbug called industrialist G.B. Blackrock (on a pay phone), and Blackrock trucked in tanks of water himself. Blaster was cured and his trust in Goldbug was restored. {{storylink|The Cure!}}

[[Image:Goldbugthecure.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Goldbug finished his evolution into his own character model by the time the Throttlebots showed up. He kept Bumblebee's colors, though.]]
''With the Throttlebots joining Goldbug and Blaster on their travels, the group discovered that the bodies of [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] had been found. While they initially intended to let the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]] destroy Galvatron, they were forced to intervene to save human lives. {{storylink|Ladies' Night}} This unfortunately attracted the wrath of the Combaticons.'' The group found refuge in a used car lot owned by [[Big Steve Ludwig (G1)|Big Steve]]. However, they were all badly in need of fuel. They attempted a deal with Big Steve, but he double-crossed them, filling them up with soda pop instead of gasoline. It was then that the [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]] caught up with them, followed by the Combaticons. During the ensuing battle, the immobilized Throttlebots (including Goldbug) were carted away by the humans' anti-robot organization, [[Rapid Anti-robot Assault Team|RAAT]]. {{storylink|Used Autobots}}

Goldbug and the captured Throttlebots were interrogated by [[Intelligence and Information Institute|Triple-I]], who eventually had their bodies crushed in a pointless threat to stop Decepticon raids. However, their brain modules were transplanted by [[Walter Barnett (G1)|Walter Barnett]] into remote-control cars owned by his son, who sought out Goldbug's old friend Buster at Goldbug's suggestion. After being attacked by the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]] and separated from the others, Goldbug and Buster traveled to Mount St. Hilary and found the Ark gone. Using equipment left behind, Goldbug and Buster sent a distress call, just before Ratbat revealed he'd tagged along and crushed the Autobot's toy car body. {{storylink|Toy Soldiers!}}

Arriving in response to his distress call, the Autobot [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] rescued Goldbug's shattered form, [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] patching into his circuits to ease the pain of retelling the attack and capture of Buster. {{storylink|Trial by Fire!}} Taken back to their ship, [[Brainstorm]] built him a new body identical to his Throttlebot form. Goldbug used it on a mission that led to the discovery that Optimus Prime's mind was recorded on [[floppy disk]] and served as his leader's eyes in commanding the Autobot [[Pretender]]s. {{storylink|Pretender to the Throne!}}

Goldbug championed the reconstruction of his former leader's body, until his present allies suggested contacting the Ark to seek the resources to do it. Goldbug was quickly imprisoned by Grimlock, but this allowed him to convince Blaster to fight the Dinobot. After the Decepticons attacked during the pair's duel, Fortress Maximus ordered Goldbug to take the ''[[Steelhaven]]'' and its skeleton crew back to [[Nebulos]] to rebuild Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Totaled!}}

Arriving on Nebulos, Goldbug and the others were successful in rebuilding Optimus Prime despite the planet's now-toxic fuel. Goldbug avoided having to undergo the [[Powermaster]] process to survive like the other Autobots due to his high fuel efficiency. {{storylink|People Power!}} On the journey back, Optimus and Goldbug investigated word of [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] starring in the [[Cosmic Carnival]], eventually rescuing the Autobot and his [[Spacehikers|young human companions]]. {{storylink|The Cosmic Carnival}}

[[Image:Bumblebeeskindeep.jpg|left|175px|thumb|Ratchet cares not for your maturation and wishes you were more like 1984...]]
Goldbug was later destroyed by the [[Underbase]]-powered [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] in [[New York City|New York]]. {{storylink|Dark Star (issue)|Dark Star}} Goldbug was repaired by Ratchet using Pretender technology... sort of. Instead of simply restoring Goldbug, Ratchet rebuilt him as a much larger Bumblebee, {{storylink|All the Familiar Faces!}} explaining that he'd always preferred Bumblebee's original form. Before they could discuss it further, Bumblebee had to help [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] and Grimlock against Megatron and his minions. While the new Pretenders defeated the other Decepticons, Ratchet seemingly sacrificed himself to destroy Megatron and [[Megatron's base|his base]]. {{storylink|Skin Deep}}

Afterward, the three Pretenders briefly joined the Autobot resistance movement on Cybertron. Thanks to his increased stature, Bumblebee experienced a big boost of confidence as he and the others rejuvenated the resistance. In response, [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]] ordered the [[Mayhem Attack Squad]] to assassinate them. As Bumblebee, Jazz, Grimlock and the [[Rescue Patrol (G1)|Rescue Patrol]] prepared to teleport to Earth, the three Decepticons attacked [[Autobase]], sabotaging the [[Trans-Time Dimensional Portal]]. All nine Transformers found themselves teleported into the heart of Cybertron, where the Autobots discovered the resting place of [[Primus]]. {{storylink|Yesterday's Heroes!}}

There, they encountered the [[Keeper (Transformer)|Keeper]] and learned the secret origin of the Transformers, as well as of Primus's never-ending battle with [[Unicron]]. As the Keeper's tale ended, the Mayhem Attack Squad found the Autobots. Their initial attack destroyed the Keeper, but Bumblebee and the others handily defeated them. However, a stray blast woke Primus seconds before the repaired portal sent the Transformers back to Earth. {{storylink|Primal Scream (issue)|Primal Scream}}

[[Image:Bumblebeedarkcreation.jpg|right|200px|thumb|...just like Thunderwing, who killed your gimmick.]]
With Unicron undoubtedly on his way to devour Cybertron, Bumblebee and his fellow Pretenders embarked on a quest to find the lost [[Matrix of Leadership|Creation Matrix]]. The three traveled to [[VsQs]], the last known location of Optimus Prime's funeral barge, to search for clues. Finding an abandoned science station, Bumblebee searched through its computer records. He confirmed that the scientists had found Prime's body and the Matrix, but also a [[Matrixspawn|strange creature]] that promptly attacked one of the scientists. Before they could investigate further, Thunderwing attacked, also seeking the Matrix. Bumblebee used his Pretender shell to combat the Decepticon, only for Thunderwing to destroy it. The feedback temporarily knocked Bumblebee unconscious, and it seemed Thunderwing would destroy all three Autobots, until the Matrixspawn attacked. While Thunderwing pursued the creature, Bumblebee and the other Autobots searched the science station for the Matrix. They recovered it, but were so low on Energon that they were becoming unable to compensate for the moon's heavy gravity. While they were attempting to reach their shuttle, Thunderwing overtook them, seizing the Matrix and leaving them for dead. {{storylink|Dark Creation}} Fortunately for Bumblebee, the Autobots sent a shuttle to rescue him and the others before they entered final shutdown. {{storylink|Eye of the Storm}}

{{note|Although it was not expressly stated on panel, the Classic Pretenders apparently lost their shells on VsQs.}}
Bumblebee survived the war with Unicron, and was one of many Autobots left on Cybertron afterwards. {{storylink|Exodus!}}

=====Marvel UK future timelines=====
''In 2007, Bumblebee was stationed on Cybertron after [[Unicron]] destroyed [[Moonbase Two]]. Under the command of [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]] and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], he helped ambush a [[Airborne hunter squad|group of Decepticon attackers]], catching them in a pre-planned crossfire. ''{{storylink|Wanted: Galvatron — Dead or Alive!}}

=====Earthforce=====
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''When Optimus Prime left Grimlock in charge of protecting Earth, Bumblebee signed up for the new "Earthforce" along with many of his long-time comrades. {{storylink|Break-Away!}} After Prowl disappeared while riding an atmosphere-destroying missile through the stratosphere (long story), Bumblebee and [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] went looking for him. They picked up a set of Transformer lifesigns on a small island in the Bahamas, and took some speeder bikes to investigate. Instead of Prowl, what they found was a massive reconstructed version of [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], half-finished as the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] attempted to recreate their combined form as an independent super-warrior. Luckily, Bumblebee had Ironhide along to disable the automated defense ring protecting the Devastator project, and they were able to destroy "him" before the Constructicons could activate their creation. {{storylink|Desert Island Risks!}}''

''Later, Bumblebee joined Jazz, Ironhide and [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] in infiltrating the Decepticon [[Enclave]]. Fearing an alliance between the two Decepticon factions would be bad news for the Autobots, Ironhide conceived a plan to throw a spanner into the proceedings. Using an unconscious [[Headstrong]] as a patsy, the Autobots staged a sniper shot at Megatron. When Megatron and his Decepticons unleashed their firepower at the rocks where the shot supposedly came from, Jazz and Bumblebee tossed down Headstrong's body, leading Megatron to conclude Shockwave had tried to have him killed. The peace talks quickly went downhill from there. {{storylink|The Bad Guy's Ball!}}''

''Bumblebee was present when Wheeljack showcased his brand-new defense grid to successfully protect Autobot Earthbase. Unfortunately, Wheels forgot that, once activated, the defense system could only be deactivated from inside the base... behind the various laser cannons and heat-seekers and Acidbats he had turned on. While Prowl ran the gauntlet to reach the control center, Bumblebee and Jazz watched his back, drawing fire and disabling what defenses they could. {{storylink|The House that Wheeljack Built!}} Later, Bumblebee and several other Autobots went in pursuit of [[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]] of the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]], who had kidnapped their human ally, [[Irwin Spoon (G1)|Irwin Spoon]]. Weaving their way through the various Stunticons who got in the way, Bumblebee and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] finally managed to trick two of Motormaster's own thugs into running him off the road themselves, giving Bumblebee a chance to rip off his cab door and retrieve Spoon. {{storylink|End of the Road! (UK)|End of the Road!}}''
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====''Transformers Comic-Magazin''====
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Bumblebee was present when Powermaster Optimus Prime led the Autobots against the joint Decepticon leaders Shockwave and Megatron, who had tried to hijack the oil reserves of [[Alaska]]. The Autobots drove off the Decepticons, but not before [[Quickmix (G1)|Quickmix]] accidentally shot a Minibot because he turned off his targetting computer. Bumblebee argued that the Autobots should turn their targetting computers off because while they would be less accurate, they would be faster and more agile. Optimus then sat his troops down and explained to them the differences between Autobots and Decepticons. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 2|Transformers in Action: Attack at Dawn}}

He attended a meeting in which Optimus Prime lectured the Autobots on the basics of their mission and existence, and applauded Slapdash's call for a one-world Autobot government. He notes that if the Autobots were like the Decepticons, they wouldn't have had to drift through space for an eternity and be entombed on Earth for four million years. Later, the Decepticons attack an oil tanker, and he helps the rescue effort as a Classic Pretender. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 6|Transformers in the Battle for Peace: A Big Day for Powermaster Optimus Prime}} He was present when the Decepticons unleashed a robotic hell-beast known as 'King Con' on New York; however Optimus Prime rented a helicopter to fly a banner announcing huge raw oil deposit finds in the Rocky Mountains. After a short hesitation, the Decepticons retreated to pursue these findings. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 7|Transformers — Transforming Robots in Action: New York — A City Sinking in Terror}}

When the Decepticons stole three nuclear missiles from the United State Federation to hold the world to ransom, Optimus Prime ordered that Bumblebee, [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] and [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] be given the power and abilities of Pretenders and sent to defeat the Decepticons. They arrived outside the Decepticon base, but were attacked by Pretender Starscream! Beating Starscream, they then chased off the Firecons in their Pretender shells, leaving Bumblebee to defeat Megatron one-on-one and stop the missile countdown. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 8|Transformers in Action: Megatron's Ultimatum}}

Following a vicious battle he was rebuilt into Goldbug by a cosmic Transformer, but the process had scrambled his mind as he forgot that he had ''been'' Bumblebee. While dozing on security duty, Goldbug accidentally caused the Ark's computers to create a training simulation out of mashed-up footage of previous battles. He was left distraught and confused, trying to send real communications, before realising both the truth and that the constant presence of this "Bumblebee" meant something weird was going on. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 15|The Cosmic Adventure: Memories of Bumblebee}}

====Conflicting Goldbug origins====
[[Image:Goldbugorigins.jpg|left|200px|thumb|One of these things never happened. You choose which! (left: US; right: UK)]]
In ''[[G.I. Joe and the Transformers]]'', Bumblebee was destroyed by [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] due to a misunderstanding. They later rebuilt him as Goldbug with help from Ratchet. However, Marvel UK did not initially print the crossover, so an alternate origin for Goldbug was conceived. In the pages of the UK comic, Bumblebee was destroyed by a time-traveling [[Death's Head (G1)|Death's Head]], yes? Then he was repaired by a time-traveling [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]]. (The Marvel Joe/TF crossover was published in the UK towards the end of the series.) The conflicting origins for Goldbug is the single largest difference between the American and British Marvel Transformers comics; ''most'' everything else kinda sorta meshes together, if you squint.
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==Generation 2==
[[Image:Fangrybumblebeeghosts.jpg|left|150px|thumb|A friendly game of Bumblebowling, honest]]
Years after the battle on [[Klo]], and the Autobots had returned to a renewed Cybertron, Bumblebee received a distress signal from G.I. Joe on Earth, notifying them of Megatron's return. He passed this information on to Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Goin' South}} He also accompanied Prime and a team of Autobots to an unnamed planet home to an ancient civilization which reportedly stored a cache of superweapons, and battled the Decepticons there until a monstrous native scared them away. {{storylink|Ghosts}}

Bumblebee was among the Autobot/Decepticon forces battling the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian Empire]] on [[Ethos]]. {{storylink|Escalation!}}

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===''Generation 2'' (UK)===
[[Image:G2BumblebeeFleetwayWarWithoutEnd.jpg|thumb|Hey, look, it's G2 Elite Guard Bumblebee.]]
Millions of years ago, before the Transformers' war left Cybertron, Bumblebee and Optimus Prime participated in a furious battle against the forces of the Decepticons. {{storylink|War Without End (issue)|War Without End}}
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==''Classics''==
Bumblebee was among the Autobots who returned to Earth with Optimus Prime once word of Megatron's re-emergence reached them on Cybertron. They established a headquarters at [[Autobase Prima]] in the Pacific Northwest. Bumblebee remained behind at headquarters when Optimus and the Autobots helped [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]] on his quest. {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 3}} He was present when they returned from the battlefield with injured soldiers. {{storylink|Games of Deception}}

Bumblebee (G1)

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:''Bumblebee is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]]. He was known as '''Goldbug''' for a time in some continuities.''
[[Image:BumblebeeRIC.jpg|right|275px|thumb|Ahoy oy!]]
'''Bumblebee''' is one of the smallest and physically weakest Autobots. While his stature allows him to do his job better than most Autobots could manage, he is self-conscious about his size. Maybe this is why he makes fast friends among the humans. He looks up (so to speak) to the other Autobots, especially [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], but what he doesn't realize is that ''they'' look up to ''him''. He may be small, but he's brave, and he's one of the most well-liked Autobots around. Bumblebee already has the respect he craves.

As '''Goldbug'''—his [[Renaming|rebuilt]] and "matured" form—Bumblebee retains most of his earlier strengths and weaknesses, but without his crippling need for approval. (This is true of some "matured" versions of Bumblebee without new names or bodies, as well, but is quite markedly associated with the change to Goldbug).

His nicknames are '''Bee''' and '''Beeper'''.<ref>According to [[Jim Sorenson]], Bumblebee had Bee and Beeper listed as his nicknames in [[Bob Budiansky]]'s personal Transformers comic bible. Nicknames for other characters could be found in early ''[[Transformers Universe (Marvel comic)|Universe]]''-style profiles published in [[The Transformers Comic Magazine]]. In the Marvel Comics, Blackrock referred to him as Bum.</ref>

{{quote|Some of my best friends are humans.|Bumblebee, on his kid-friendly nature|"[[Megatron's Master Plan, Part 1]]"}}

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
{{Main|Bumblebee (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity}}

===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
[[Image:PlagueOfInsecticons Bumblebee and Spike hide.jpg|right|thumb|250px|I wonder if he wanted a job as a mechanic?]]
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Bumblebee was one of the several [[Autobot]]s who were searching for energy when the [[Decepticon]]s attacked their [[Ark (G1)|spacecraft]], forcing them to crash-land on [[Earth]] 4 million years ago. When Bumblebee and the others were awoken in 1984, Bumblebee quickly befriended the [[human]] teenager [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]].

Bumblebee and Spike would remain friends up through Spike's adulthood, and were stationed on one of Cybertron's moons in 2005 after the Decepticons conquered Cybertron. Bumblebee survived [[Unicron]]'s attack on Cybertron, and remained in action during the leadership of [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]].

When Bumblebee was damaged badly during the [[Hate Plague]] outbreak in 2006, he had to be rebuilt into a new form, Goldbug. Goldbug would live to see the next Cybertronian Golden Age.
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===''Legends'' anthology===
Bumblebee, Spike, and [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] happened upon a badly damaged [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] while out racing. Bumblebee convinced the others to bring Starscream back to the Ark for repairs, under the rationale that while Starscream wouldn't have done the same for them, they weren't Decepticons. {{storylink|Redemption Center}}

Hey, remember that time in the comics when a couple of guys stole Bumblebee? What if they were kind of jerks? What if Bumblebee decided to make them pee themselves? {{storylink|Joyride (story)|Joyride}}
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===Dreamwave comics continuity===
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At the death of [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]], Bumblebee was part of an Autobot unit defending [[Altihex]] from the Decepticons, but it was ultimately declared a lost cause. [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] had to pull him aboard the shuttle once they realized there was nothing left to do. [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] ordered him, [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]], [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], and others to the ruins of [[Praxus]], where Grimlock declared that if the new [[Prime (rank)|Prime]] was unable to lead successfully, they would take control of the war's leadership... and take out the Prime. Bumblebee was among the group that was present for the Matrix transfer ceremony, where Optronix became [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. When a Decepticon assassination squad arrived and Optimus kicked some exhaust port, Bumblebee declared that he was "awesome". However, Prime then ordered the Autobots to prepare an evacuation of Cybertron. {{storylink|The War Within issue 1|The War Within #1}} When Prime went underground looking for Megatron, Bumblebee was surprised he'd gone alone, but the Autobots suddenly had bigger problems, as [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] attacked [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] with a host of Decepticons. {{storylink|The War Within issue 2|The War Within #2}} During the attack, Bumblebee manned a turret in the [[Decagon]]. {{storylink|The War Within issue 3|The War Within #3}} Eventually, Prowl ordered the Autobots to take them on individually, and Bumblebee went out carrying a cannon that was as [[Scale|big]] as him. {{storylink|The War Within issue 5|The War Within #5}} Bumblebee survived the destruction of Iacon, and Prime reversed his order of evacuation. {{storylink|The War Within issue 6|The War Within #6}} During the Dark Ages and the disappearance of Optimus Prime, Bumblebee remained with Prowl's faction of Autobots, huddled in the ruins of Iacon. {{storylink|War Within: The Dark Ages}}

[[Image:DWPrimeDirective2 Bumblebee destruction.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Someone has to pay for the little things.]]
Bumblebee was one of the Ark crew that crashed on Earth and awoke in 1984. During that time, he met Spike Witwicky, becoming close friends with the human. In 1999, the Autobots and humans allied and managed to capture the Decepticons, taking them in the ''[[Ark II]]'' back to Cybertron, along with [[Magnificent Seven|seven humans]], including [[Sparkplug Witwicky]], Spike's father. However, the ''Ark II'' was sabotaged by rogue elements of the United States military (apparently as part of a plan by Shockwave). {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 1|Prime Directive #1}} The humans were all killed, but a number of Transformers, including Bumblebee, survived, but in [[stasis lock]]. Bumblebee's body was recovered by [[Robert Hallo|General Hallo]] and [[Lazarus|Adam Rook]], but Rook stole Bumblebee and a number of other Transformers, selling them to various terrorists. Megatron broke free, and the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]], being dicks, disassembled and played with Bumblebee's various components. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 3|Prime Directive #3}}

Optimus Prime's team later rescued him and the remaining Autobots, and they were all put to work in combating Megatron's techno-virus. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 5|Prime Directive #5}} Unfortunately, the [[Canada|Canadian]] military, skittish over the recent Transformer violence, attacked the Autobots. Despite this, Bumblebee tried to save as many of the soldiers as he could before the virus could kill them. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 6|Prime Directive #6}}

''In the following weeks, the Autobots tried their best to re-establish good relations with the people of Earth, but had little luck. After Optimus Prime, Megatron, [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] and [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] vanished from the streets of Tokyo with roughly 200 human civilians, the public was understandably critical of the Transformers and their war. Bumblebee didn't help any when [[Chris Killah]], a reporter for MNT, interviewed him on the scene while he and Prowl were looking for clues to the disappearance. Bumblebee's knowledge of Earth idioms and slang normally worked to the Autobots' benefit, but he got "stage fright" in front of the TV cameras and referred to the massive property damage and loss of human life as a "bummer". Duuuuude...no. ''

''With both sides effectively leaderless at first, Bumblebee and Prowl did their best to contain the fallout of Megatron and Prime's disappearance. Acting on a tip, they tracked [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] to an airport in [[Mesa Verde]], [[Mexico]], where he was running guns with some human terrorists. The battle was memorable, but brief, thanks largely to the arrival of the renegade Autobot known as Grimlock. Having heard the Starscream had taken over the human city of [[Las Vegas]], Grimlock had commissioned a human black ops army and invited Bumblebee and Prowl to join him in assaulting the Decepticon position. Already frustrated at the [[United Nations]]' orders to stay out of Vegas, for fear of civilian casualties, Bumblebee and Prowl accepted the offer. After fighting their way through [[Bonecrusher (G1)|Bonecrusher]] and the other [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] on the outskirts of town, the Autobots managed to make it to the center of the Strip to confront Soundwave. Fortunately, the Autobots had long since developed internal jammers to prevent Soundwave from reading their thoughts during a battle, but that didn't make things easy. Fighting their way around the casinos, Bumblebee finally collapsed a massive neon sign on top of Soundwave, temporarily ending the fight. Bumblebee and Prowl's luck turned sour, though, with the arrival of Starscream and the mighty Devastator. The sudden appearance of a spatial gateway depositing Optimus and the other lost Transformers, along with their captors the [[Keeper (species)|Keepers]], was just one set of complications on top of another. {{storylink|Hardwired}}''

Sometime later, the Autobots received visitors from Cybertron. Representing a united Cybertronian government of both Autobots and Decepticons, they claimed the Transformers on Earth were a throwback to darker days, and wanted to take them into custody to prevent their "anachronistic" feud from upsetting Cybertron's populace. The Autobots under Optimus Prime split into two groups, with Bumblebee and several others joining their leader in surrendering to [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]'s forces, while Jazz led a small group away from the Ark to continue monitoring activities on Earth. Once they arrived on Cybertron, it became clear that there was a rotten core to the new government, namely [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. Bumblebee and the other Autobots from Earth joined up with a resistance movement and helped overthrow Shockwave's reign, reinstating Autobot rule over Cybertron. {{storylink|War and Peace}}

[[Image:Bumblebeebattlemask.jpg|right|200px|thumb|25 years before someone realized his toy has no face.]]
After Cybertron settled down, Bumblebee commanded the Autobot Shuttle ''[[Orion]]'' and a small crew, travelling back to Earth with supplies for Jazz's team at the Ark. Starscream and the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]] were in the midst of an attack on the Ark when the ''Orion'' arrived. {{storylink|Night of the Combaticons}} The little ship managed to damage [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] significantly before the super-powerful zealot [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]] shorted out its engines and it crashed. {{storylink|Black Sunshine}} After [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] sacrificed himself to stop Sunstorm, Bumblebee deserted the Autobot army (for no stated reason). {{storylink|Atonement}} He headed to Spike's house, but Spike, resentful of the death of Sparkplug, lashed out at him. Afterward, Spike finally realized he was being harsh on his old friend, and the two went for a night on the town, where they stopped a mugging. {{storylink|Lost and Found (issue)|Lost and Found}}
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{{note|The closure of [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] means we will never know if Bumblebee returned to the Autobots or if he and Spike formed a crime-fighting duo.}}

===''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers''===
Bumblebee was aboard the ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'' when it crashed on Earth millions of years in the past, leaving its passengers deactivated. Along with [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]], he was sealed off from the rest of the crew in the crash, and therefore avoided capture when [[Cobra]] broke into the ship and stole the dormant Transformers therein. Bumblebee and Wheeljack were eventually revived by [[Teletraan I (G1)|Teletran-One]], only to find their friends missing. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 4|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #4}}

Attempting to find the missing Transformers, Bumblebee disguised himself as a Volkswagen Beetle, an altmode that really got on his nerves after months of fruitless searching. Eventually, Wheeljack came up with some leads on Cobra's next target, while Bumblebee just grumbled that Wheeljack got all the good [[Hologram|holographic]] drivers. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 2|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #2}} When Cobra attacked the [[SPS Research Facility]], the Autobots were waiting for them, and Bumblebee punched out a brainwashed [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] before helping [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]]'s [[Laser Squad]] get out of some rubble. Unfortunately, the humans didn't quite trust the giant robots, and [[Cover Girl]] fired a missile at 'Bee, who ''grabbed the projectile in mid-air'' and threw it at Rumble instead. He and Wheeljack eventually convinced G.I. Joe they were good guys, and the humans provided them with the information needed to undo Cobra's reprogramming of the other Transformers. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 3|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #3}}

As G.I. Joe prepared to attack [[Cobra Island]], Bumblebee and Wheeljack came with them. However, the United States government preferred nuke the island and dissect the two aliens at [[Area 51]], and Bumblebee was struck with a magnetic pulse and incapacitated. Luckily, Wheeljack convinced [[Duke (G.I. Joe)|Duke]] that a nuclear strike on Cobra's [[Energon (fuel)|energon]] stockpile would lead to worldwide devastation, so G.I. Joe broke orders and took the Autobots with them to attack Cobra Island anyway. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 4|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #4}} Upon arrival, Bumblebee watched as the [[SPS Satellite]]'s energy beam struck an energy-gathering dish on the island, then helped G.I. Joe take down [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] after the giant Decepticon killed [[Hound (G1)|Hound]]. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 5|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #5}}

It soon transpired that the United States government were sending the nukes regardless of G.I. Joe's presence on the island, so the Autobots and humans made their way to the SPS Satellite's controls, where Bumblebee found a cowering [[Doctor Mindbender]]. While Mindbender was forced to calibrate the satellite's beams to shoot down the approaching nuclear warheads, the facility came under attack by [[Storm Shadow]], [[Firefly]] and various Cobra troopers. During the battle, Bumblebee defeated Storm Shadow and his heavily damaged [[S.N.A.K.E.]] suit. He then cheered as [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] defeated Megatron and shot down the SPS Satellite, and he later returned to Cybertron aboard a new ''Ark''. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 5|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #6}}

Two years later, Bumblebee was sent back through time to [[1970]]'s [[San Francisco]] by a malfunctioning [[Teletran 3]], and was left dormant in the form of a Ford Pinto. He was found and reactivated by several G.I. Joes and Cobra members sent to get him back to the future, but both Bumblebee and [[Zartan]] were disappointed with his altmode compared to the much fancier car his fellow time-lost Autobot [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] turned into. After hunting down [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] and [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] in the same era, the team returned to their own time. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 1|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II #1}} Back on present-day Cybertron, Bumblebee and the others had no choice but to wait inside [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]'s force field until the three other teams returned with more lost Transformers. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 2|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II #2}} When the whole affair was over, Bumblebee curiously inspected Teletran 3. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 4|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II #4}}

An agreement was made between the Autobots and G.I. Joe to decommission any Cybertronian technology left on Earth, and Bumblebee was sent back to Earth along with [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]], [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] and [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]], the last of whom he was very flirty with. When [[Area 52 (G1)|Area 52]] came under attack from Cobra, Bumblebee noticed that [[Cobra Commander]] was using the attack as a diversion to infiltrate the facility's lower levels. He pursued the Commander, but was rendered unconscious when Zartan planted an electromagnetic scrambler on him. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 1|The Art of War #1}} Just when Cobra Commander was about to smash the robot's face in with a lead pipe, the other Autobots and G.I. Joes arrived and saved him. While Arcee was worried about his low energy levels, Bumblebee assured her that seeing her was all the recharge he needed. However, it was soon revealed what Cobra Commander had come for: [[Serpentor|Serpent O.R.]], a biotechnological weapon created from Megatron's remains. He was also just as power-hungry as Megatron, and took control of [[G.I. Joe battle mech|G.I. Joe's battle suits]] and pitted them against the four Autobots to distract them while he warped to Cybertron. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 2|The Art of War #2}}

[[Image:GIJoevsTFArtofwar3_BumblebeeDeath.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Crossovers are not kind to Bumblebee.]]

[[Image:JoeTF_ArtofWar5_BumblebeeMemorial.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Here Lies 'Bee / Only Time He Had A Girl In Any Continui-ty]]

Along with a group of Joes, the Autobots followed Serpent O.R. to their home planet, and ended up getting attacked by [[cannibalizer]]s in a junkyard. As they retreated to avoid human casualties, Bumblebee tried to extort a kiss from Arcee if he could outrace her, but she upped the bet by offering to rotate his tires if he could pull it off. Bumblebee accelerated in anticipation... and drove straight into [[Predaking]], who stomped him unconscious. Serpent O.R., who had recruited Predaking alongside various other Decepticons, complimented the little Autobot's courage and resilience, noting that he could probably survive with the proper medical attention. Then he crushed Bumblebee to death with his tentacles. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 3|The Art of War #3}} Following the defeat of Serpent O.R., a funeral was held for Bumblebee and a statue was built in his honor. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 5|The Art of War #5}}

Bumblebee's death had a large impact on Optimus Prime, who blamed himself for his friend's death. Unwilling to send anyone else to their death, he went on a dangerous mission on Earth all by himself. {{storylink|Black Horizon, Part 1 of 2|Black Horizon, Part 1}}
HE LIVESSSSS!!

===''Transformers/G.I. Joe''===
After laying dormant among the [[Fera Islands]] for three million years, Bumblebee and his friends were reactivated in [[1939]] when [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] attacked [[Cobra]]'s headquarters in the archipelago. He was reformatted into a [[World War II]]-era motorcycle, complete with sidecar, and thought Optimus Prime was a bit pessimistic when he worried that [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] might no longer exist. {{storylink|Transformed}} The Autobots subsequently joined G.I. Joe on their mission to eliminate Cobra and their Decepticon allies. Bumblebee overheard [[Duke (G.I. Joe)|Duke]] and [[Stalker (G.I. Joe)|Stalker]] discussing that [[Snake-Eyes]] had vanished, and tried to reassure [[Scarlett]] that the missing Joe would show up eventually. Before long, the group came under attack from Cobra paratroopers, but the bullets merely bounced off Bumblebee, who happily suggested that the Autobots should try out their new bodies in action. {{storylink|Trial by Fire (issue)|Trial by Fire}}

Upon entering combat, the Autobots were faced with [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]], who was easily taking out the larger tank Autobots with his earthquakes. While Bumblebee was busy explaining who Rumble was, Scarlett commandeered him (noting how "sweet" it was that he had never been driven before) and drove into action, jumping above the Decepticon and destroying him with a grenade. Bumblebee felt that he and Scarlett made a nice team, and sheepishly told her that she could drive him anytime. How cheeky! {{storylink|Wolves}} When they reached Cobra's fortress, the [[Terrordrome]], the Autobots were attacked by a raging [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]], whom Bumblebee noted that he had never seen before. In the end, the [[Matrix of Leadership]] had to be destroyed in order to stop Bruticus, which killed Bumblebee and all the other Transformers in the process. {{storylink|The Iron Fist}}

===IDW comics continuity===
{{note|For information pertaining to Goldbug, a separate individual in the IDW continuity, see [[Goldbug (IDW)]].}}
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[[Image:Bumblebeeidw.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Bumblebee finally passed the gun exam.]]

Bumblebee was part of [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl's]] secret counter-infiltration unit on [[Earth]]. When [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] broke cover by rescuing a [[Hunter O'Nion|trio]] [[Verity Carlo|of]] [[Jimmy Pink|humans]], {{storylink|Infiltration issue 0}} Bumblebee was the one Autobot who supported his efforts. He was true to his role as an espionage agent and ferreted out their plans to continue joint operations against orders and joined in. Verity thought his alternate form and his [[holomatter]] avatar was "coool!" {{storylink|Infiltration issue 3|Infiltration #3}} He accompanied Ratchet and the humans to investigate an abandoned [[Decepticon]] bunker in [[Nebraska]]. When Ratchet mentioned how he hated putting their humans at risk, Bumblebee pragmatically commented that, given the need for evidence of unusual Decepticon activity and the consequences of Decepticon Siege Mode, the humans would be "acceptable losses". While the humans were exploring the bunker, two Decepticons attacked, and Bumblebee managed to take down [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], but not before Ratchet was shot and run over by [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]. {{storylink|Infiltration issue 4|Infiltration #4}}

As the bombardment by the Decepticons caused the bunker to collapse, Verity had trouble climbing out of the shaft through which they entered. Bumblebee leapt into action when the tree the rope was attached to buckled under the crumbling terrain. {{storylink|Infiltration issue 5|Infiltration #5}} He left the humans with Ratchet and traveled to [[Oregon]], the location of the second Decepticon command bunker, observing the situation until the rest of the Autobot unit could arrive. After witnessing Megatron "disciplining" Starscream and subsequently downgrading the infiltration unit's status to [[Infiltration protocol|Phase Two]], Bumblebee departed Oregon with the rest of the unit. {{storylink|Infiltration issue 6|Infiltration #6}}

[[Image:Bumblebee blasts LukeCage.jpg|left|thumb|180px|Oldest trick in the book.]]

Bumblebee went with the Autobots to investigate Decepticon activity in the country of [[Latveria]]. There they discovered a heavily shielded "array" that the Decepticons were using as a base. {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part One|Man and Machine #1}} There they skirmished with the humans that were assembled outside who were under the influence of the Decepticons' mind-altering [[Psycho-Prism]]. Bumblebee used his holomatter avatar in a "damsel in distress" ruse that distracted [[Luke Cage]] long enough for Bumblebee to get a clear shot. Ratchet was able to attach an inhibitor device to [[Captain America]] which nullified the effects of the Psycho-Prism. He gave Captain America enough devices for everyone on his team. Now calmed down, the two groups teamed up to destroy the Psycho-Prism. They began attacking the array's defenses which caused the Decepticons to attack. {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part Two|Man and Machine #2}}

As they fought, Ratchet, Prowl, and Luke Cage were able to slip into the array. Outside, Bumblebee, Jazz, and Prime gave a power-boost to [[Iron Man]] in his Transformer-sized armor. After the battle quieted down, Megatron communicated via hologram from inside the array with his new ally [[Doctor Doom]]. They showed their captives, Ratchet, Prowl, Luke Cage, and [[Spider-Man]]. Megatron ordered their surrender or the captives would die. Optimus Prime ordered the quick destruction of the array. [[Falcon (superhero)|The Falcon]] objected because their teammates were still inside. Bumblebee argued that those few humans were expendable. There was a brief discussion, but Optimus Prime's orders won out and they all attacked the array. Megatron turned on Doctor Doom for being incorrect about them surrendering. Megatron didn't go through with his threat to kill his captives, instead he went outside to face his opponents and carrying Luke Cage. {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part Three|Man and Machine #3}}

While Megatron was attacking, Bumblebee, Jazz, and [[Wolverine (superhero)|Wolverine]] [[orbital jump|orbital bounced]] into the array. They found that Doctor Doom switched sides and freed Spider-Man, so they went to find the Psycho-Prism. They found it guarded by [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]], who wasn't in the mood to fight for Megatron's cause and left. Wolverine destroyed the Prism. {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part Four|Man and Machine #4}}

Bumblebee was tasked by [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] to check the area surrounding their base for surveillance. He found a great deal of it, prompting the decision to relocate the ''[[Ark-19]]''. He was aboard when the ship was shot down by [[Sixshot]]. {{storylink|Devastation issue 1|Devastation #1}} He survived but was injured in the subsequent battle with the living Decepticon weapon of mass destruction. {{storylink|Devastation issue 4|Devastation #4}} He was presumably on the ''[[Ark-32]]'' when it left Earth. {{storylink|Devastation issue 6|Devastation #6}}

A year later, Bumblebee was hiding out with other Autobots on Cybertron. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 1|All Hail Megatron #1}}

[[Image:AHM4BumblebeeWheeljack.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Slag it, Bumblebee, stop making our jokes for us!]]
Bumblebee and Wheeljack were sent to search for energon by Jazz, but found the going rough in their Earth modes. Wheeljack suggested he whip up a polymer, but 'Bee very quickly pointed out the fact they hadn't the equipment. To make matters worse, the pair were being followed and their only hope of signaling for help was a million to one shot! Not willing to wait for back-up that wasn't coming, Bumblebee dragged Wheeljack along in an attempt to track the stranger down... when Hot Rod was knocked through a wall by Ironhide. Bumblebee was surprised to see Hot Rod, but more surprised to hear the other bot thought they were a rescue party! {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 4|All Hail Megatron #4}}

Later, while being chased by the [[Insecticon swarm]], Bumblebee made a disparaging comment about [[Drift (G1)|Drift]], but [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] quickly put him in his place. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 8|All Hail Megatron #8}} As tensions rose, he almost had a throw-down with [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]]. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 9|All Hail Megatron #9}} Along with the other Autobots, Bumblebee was rescued and transported back to Earth by [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]]. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 11|All Hail Megatron #11}} Together with the rest of the Autobots, he fought the Decepticons and drove them off the planet. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 12|All Hail Megatron #12}}

After the departure of the Decepticons, the human military hunted down any remaining Transformer. Somehow Bumblebee got separated from his team in the ruins of New York. He managed to avoid detection until he was forced to reveal his location when a toppling building threatened the families inside. Bumblebee used his body to support the building, even as the nearby military fired into his body. Thankfully, Bumblebee was able to hold out until the humans inside had evacuated, and the timely arrival of Optimus Prime and the others kept the military from finishing him off. Once Bumblebee had been restored to working order, he asked Ratchet if they had heard his radio distress calls. No, Ratchet responded, Bumblebee's radio had been busted, but they heard about his plight on the humans' frequencies. Ratchet laughed, noting that was Optimus Prime's idea, who felt that it was only a matter of time before Bumblebee would have to save somebody and out himself. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 16|Hidden}}

Following the resignation of Optimus Prime and his surrender to the human organization [[Skywatch]], Bumblebee was elected to the position of Autobot commander despite not putting himself forward for the role. Ratchet posited his trustworthiness and dependability as factors in his being chosen. {{storylink|New Arrivals, Old Encounters}}

[[Image:Bumblebee 1 Leader.jpg|thumb|200px|left|And there was much rejoicing.]]
Though at first there was jubilation at Bumblebee's rise to leadership, his diplomatic nature and desire to be nice to everybody eventually led to problems. {{storylink|The Hanging Sword}} The first of many challenges in Bumblebee's new command was [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], who had arrived to investigate the death of [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]. Magnus questioned Bumblebee's suitability for command in light of [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] leading his own group of Autobots away, and was not interested in helping Bumblebee with their current woes. Unfortunately, it was then that [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] decided to lead yet another exodus of Autobots (consisting of [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]], [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] and [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]]) away from the main group. {{Storylink|A Rude Awakening}}

Wheeljack had little time or respect for Bumblebee's moping or his perceived lack of leadership ability, leading to several cutting remarks, much to the annoyance of Ratchet. Through some interference from Wheeljack, Bumblebee met with Skywatch rogue Colonel [[Gordon Horiuchi]] who gave them protection from Skywatch if the Autobots helped capture Decepticons. Unfortunately this "protection" could also lock them into vehicle mode if they misbehaved, which Horiuchi did when Cliffjumper refused to capture Blurr. {{storylink|The Hanging Sword}}

Tracking down Blurr, Bumblebee attempted to talk the fugitive Autobot over, to convince him to come quietly. Blurr was shocked that Bumblebee would agree to work with the humans, the people who had imprisoned others of their kind. When Bumblebee revealed that Blurr didn't have much of a choice, the latter decided to take his chances and shot Bumblebee at point blank range, which shorted out his kill-switch badge. Back at base, when Bumblebee refused to turn over Blurr, Horiuchi decided the Autobot needed a reminder of who was holding the leash and attempted to activate his kill-switch. Naturally, it didn't work, but Ratchet convinced Bumblebee to play along and pretend he was locked into vehicle mode. Seeing an opportunity, the Bumblebee concocted a plan where the reluctant Blurr would find a Volkswagen to take his place, allowing him to find a way to free the rest of the Autobots. Before leaving, Bumblebee gave the Autobots an inspiring speech that actually caused [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] to break character, surprising the Skywatch operatives who were listening in on those Autobots with functional kill-switch badges. Later, communicating with Ratchet via a text-only comm channel, Bumblebee located a large shipment of darmstadtium, the rare metal used in the kill-switches at a shipping port. As he was skulking around, he discovered the Constructicon [[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]], who had repainted himself to disguise his identity from the humans, as well as the hope that he sneak onto one of the container ships. Bumblebee tried to convince him that they had to earn the respect of the humans, but Scavenger angrily scoffed at this, stating he would rather hide than work with them. Bumblebee left him in peace. {{storylink|The Impossible Knot}}

[[Image:TheGiftHorse_Bumblebee_Serena.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]

When Skywatch arrived to repair "Bumblebee's" kill-switch badge, they inadvertently revealed the identity of [[Sanjay Bharwaney]], a Skywatch researcher who was responsible for the secondary master control board for all of the badges. Bumblebee followed Bharwaney home, following Wheeljack's advice that altering the control board would short out the badges. Obviously unable to retrieve the control board directly, Bumblebee befriended Bharwaney's daughter, [[Serena Bharwaney|Serena]], in the hopes she could help him. Much to his distaste, Bumblebee had to lie to Serena, claiming that the control board would harm her father if he didn't "fix" it. He felt so bad about the whole thing that he believed doing this all but confirmed Humanity's opinion of the Transformers, a position that [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] did not tolerate. Unfortunately, it was discovered the control board contained tracking devices, meaning Bumblebee would be unable to get it back to their hideout before Colonel Horiuchi would notice and disable all the Autobots. This forced Bumblebee to make the modifications himself, a task he scarcely completed before Bharwaney returned home. As his friend Serena took the item back into her house, Bumblebee hoped that one day, he could repay her for his betrayal of her trust. {{Storylink|The Gift Horse}}

However, as he was making his way back to the Autobot hideout, Bumblebee detected [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] heading towards the Bharwaney house. Arriving just in time to save Bharwaney and his daughter, Bumblebee discovered the scientist to be an embittered man whose wife had died during the Decepticon invasion, and who now saw all Transformers, Autobot and Decepticon alike, as the same destructive aliens. During their flight, Bharwaney decided to use the control board to destroy both Bumblebee and Skywarp, seeing Bumblebee as a traitor to Horiuchi. When Serena appealed to her father, Bharwaney forced Bumblebee to admit that he did use Serena to get to the control board, and 'Bee apologised to the young girl. Letting them both out, Bumblebee asked Bharwaney for the control board so he could free his fellow Autobots. As they argued, Skywatch lieutenant [[Daniel Klonowski]] appeared and saved the trio from Skywarp, but despite his interference, Skywarp cut off Bumblebee's escape. Declaring that, unlike Skywarp, he had friends who would fix him, Bumblebee activated the control board, which simultaneously destroyed the kill-switch badges on the Autobots and seriously damaged himself and Skywarp. Sometime later, after Klonowski paid a visit to the Autobot hideout, Bumblebee emerged with a brand new, more powerful body and a new confidence befitting his command of the Autobots. {{storylink|Wings of Wax}}

Bumblebee's new confidence was tested when Ultra Magnus barged back into the Autobot caves, requisitioning a strike force to arrest Hot Rod for colluding with the enemy. Magnus forced Bumblebee and the others to go along with him almost by sheer force of personality, and they soon arrived at the launch site where Hot Rod and his Autobot & Decepticon allies were planning to leave the planet. Bumblebee and Hot Rod tried to debate the situation, but Ultra Magnus soon grew tired of listening to their concerns and laid down the line: "Right, wrong, I'm the guy with the badge." Any dissention in the Autobots ranks came to a sudden stop when [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] turned on his "friend" Hot Rod, unleashing the new Stunticon combiner named [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]]. {{storylink|Enemies of the System}}

Most of the Decepticons joined Swindle and the Stunticons in turning against their Autobot comrades. [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]] in particular took great joy in showing the Constructicons could still hack it in light of the new combiner robot, and tried to strangle Bumblebee one-handed. Bumblebee was saved by the timely but unexpected intervention of [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], who had grown just as tired of the war as many Autobots.

Watching the Stunticons at work as Menasor, Bumblebee noticed how poorly integrated their consciousnesses were, and devised a plan to break them apart. By directing the Autobots to focus their firepower first on [[Dead End (G1)|Dead End]], then [[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]], he successfully led the group in dismantling Menasor. Even Optimus Prime and the latecomers from Skywatch looked to him for direction. Afterwards, Prime blessed Bumblebee's leadership, and 'Bee decreed it was time for the Autobots to stop running. He faced [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] head on and made arrangements for a true peace with Skywatch. Bumblebee still had to deal with Ultra Magnus, however, who was insisting on arresting Rodimus for treason. Bumblebee finally told Magnus where he could stuff his statutes. {{storylink|Earthworks}}

Bumblebee and the Autobots then entered into a formal arrangement with Skywatch, and took up residence inside the organization's bunkers. {{storylink|All His Engines}} Despite his decision, some like [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] continued to question the idea of living among those who had hunted them for the last three years. Bumblebee earnestly defended his choice, however, stating essentially that trust had to begin somewhere or else they'd never survive on Earth. Spike soon alerted Bumblebee that [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]] and the Combaticons had made their presence known in North Korea along the demilitarized zone. Bumblebee quickly determined that, despite appearances, the Combaticons were not loyal mercenaries to the North Koreans, but were playing a larger game. With the President of the United States declaring all Transformers "illegal weapons of mass destruction", though, Spike and Bumblebee decided they would have to intervene...in disguise. {{storylink|International Incident Part 1: "The Land Ironclads"}}

{{note|The events of "Spotlight: Mirage" possibly take place in an alternate/unknown continuity.}}
Bumblebee was part of a unit heading towards the Pegasus Star Cluster to link up with the last remnants of the Autobots under Optimus Prime's command. He never made it, as the unit was ambushed as soon as it entered the cluster. The self-serving mercenary [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] took his form to fool the remaining Autobots to allow him to enter their base. {{storylink|Spotlight: Mirage}}

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===''Hearts of Steel''===
In an alternate universe, the Transformers landed on Earth before the Ice Age, taking on the forms of dinosaurs and giant insects. When the climate became too cold for the war to continue, Bumblebee and the other Autobots entered into [[stasis lock]] to prevent further damage. Thousands of years later, Bumblebee awoke to the age of humans from the noise of John Henry's hammering. Bumblebee was impressed by the humans' industriousness, and disguised himself as a small steam locomotive with no control cab, and a built in steam-hammer for driving spikes. {{storylink|Hearts of Steel issue 1|Hearts of Steel #1}} Initially, 'Bee directly competed with steel-driving legend [[John Henry]]. After Bumblebee revealed himself in robot form to Henry, Henry set aside his mistrust of automation after realizing that Bumblebee was a living being (not just a machine) who wanted to put in a fair day's work. {{storylink|Hearts of Steel issue 2|Hearts of Steel #2}}

Bumblebee woke several of his fellow Autobots, who soon discovered that the Decepticons were also active in this era. After taking on locomotive alt modes themselves, {{storylink|Hearts of Steel issue 3|Hearts of Steel #3}} Bumblebee, the Autobots, and their new human friends worked together to prevent the Decepticons' mighty [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] from reaching [[New York City]]. With the Decepticons defeated, Bumblebee and the Autobots returned to their slumber. {{storylink|Hearts of Steel issue 4|Hearts of Steel #4}}

{{note|Bumblebee's pre-locomotive "Ice Age Wars" [[Alternate mode|altmode]] appears to be a spiky dinosaur, possibly a [[Wikipedia:Gastonia (dinosaur)|Gastonia]]. He also has a transitional body, while he is preparing to take on his locomotive form, which is similar to his dinosaur body, but with no spikes.}}

===Descent into Evil===
[[Image:Timelines-Bumblebee.jpg|right|180px|thumb|You know you want me, baby.]]
Having been on the trail of the Decepticon agent [[Flamewar]] for a long, long time, now-[[espionage director]] Bumblebee made his move, interrupting a supposedly-secure secret communication between Flamewar and the [[Tripredacus Council]]. He revealed that his agent, [[Ricochet (Timelines)|Ricochet]] had installed a degenerating virus into [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]]'s [[Virulent Clone|clone army]]. Oh, and that since the Autobots now ''knew'' Flamewar's whereabouts and who she was working for, the Tripredacus Council would certainly consider her a liability. Which they did. So they blew [[Flamewar's ship|her ship]] up. {{storylink|Descent into Evil}}

That's cold, Bee. Real cold.

{{note|Bumblebee appears in his unreleased [[Alternators]] body.}}
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===''Henkei! Henkei!'' pack-in comics===

[[Image:Henkei bumblebee pack in.jpg|left|thumb]]

When [[Megatron (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! pack-in comics|Megatron]] and the Decepticons attacked Earth in the 21st century, Bumblebee and the Autobots were there to stop them. During a battle in Tokyo, Bumblebee got the drop on [[Starscream (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! pack-in comics|Starscream]], dousing him with a fire engine's hose and leaving him open for a thrashing from [[Grimlock (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! pack-in comics|Grimlock]]. {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 1}}

Later, Bumblebee helped shield human bystanders from injury when [[Astrotrain (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! pack-in comics|Astrotrain]] went on a rampage, {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 2}} and cheered when they were joined in their fight by [[Hot Rod (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! pack-in comics|Rodimus]]. {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 3}}

Bumblebee was last seen helping to once more project humans when the Decepticons attacked a power plant with their newest member, the reluctant [[Jetfire (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! pack-in comics|Skyfire]]. {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 4}}
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===''Henkei! Henkei!'' Bun Bun manga===

[[Image:Henkei chpt 01 first meeting.jpg|right|thumb|During Autobot gymnastics tryouts for the 2012 Olympics: DISQUALIFIED.]]

Bumblebee was part of a small Autobot team led by Optimus Prime who left Cybertron to pursue the [[Energon Cube]] through space. When the giant energy source crashed on Earth, in the Japanese town of [[Hoshinochō]], it shattered into fragments that were scattered far and wide. Bumblebee and the other Autobots set up a subterranean base below the Cube's impact crater, and began their search for the shards, taking the forms of local vehicles to hide their activities. Despite their attempts at remaining unseen, glimpses of the Autobots only magnified the reputation the crash of the Cube (believed by humans to be a meteor) had given Hoshinochō: that of a hotbed of rumored alien and UFO activity, Japan's answer to [[United States of America|America]]'s Roswell.

[[Image:Henkei bumblebee and wataru.jpg|left|thumb|20 years later, Wataru still has this hanging on his wall.]]

Eleven years later, the driverless vehicle-mode Bumblebee was spotted by a schoolchild in the vicinity of the [[Star Dome]], a building since constructed over the Cube crater. Hearing the story from this witness, fame-seeking schoolboy [[Wataru Hoshinoumi]] ditched school to investigate the Star Dome, only for coincidence to lead him to step right in front of the speeding Bumblebee! Bumblebee was forced to transform and vault over the boy to prevent injuring him, but was able to make his escape before Wataru got a good look at him. Bumblebee hastily continued on his way to the Star Dome, and arrived to find it under attack by [[Starscream (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! Bun Bun manga|Starscream]] and [[Ramjet (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! Bun Bun manga|Ramjet]]. Wataru, too, had made it to the Dome, and Bumblebee saved him from Starscream before realizing with surprise that he was the same boy from earlier. {{storylink|Enter! The Transformers}} The other Autobots soon arrived to join the fight, and Bumblebee tried to protect Wataru from injury by scooping him up and tossing him to the relative safety of the stands. For his trouble, the small Autobot was pinned by Starscream, but Wataru returned the favor by blinding the Decepticon with a fire extinguisher. The battle was then joined by the Decepticon leader [[Megatron (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! Bun Bun manga|Megatron]], who attempted to make an example of Bumblebee and Wataru by blasting them with his fusion cannon, but at the last second, Optimus Prime was apparently able to deflect Megatron's shot with one of his own. Megatron covered the Decepticons' subsequent retreat by collapsing a part of the Star Dome, but Bumblebee protected Wataru from the rubble by shielding him with his own body. The pair then properly introduced themselves to one another, and Wataru was invited into the Autobots' base for an explanation. {{storylink|The Emperor of Destruction Appears!}}

[[Image:Henkei_bumblebee_medical_treatment.jpg|right|thumb|Who knew alien-robots can be [[Wikipedia:Trypanophobia|trypanophobic]].]]

Bumblebee and Prime showed Wataru through their base on their way to the medical bay, where Bumblebee was to be treated for repairs. Bumblebee did not relish Optimus's medical ministrations, and the two Autobots were so busy trying to get through the process that they did not notice Wataru touching the large shard of the Energon Cube that they had recovered in their time on Earth. A bizarre energy discharge resulted that not only showed the Autobots images of [[Generation 1 (franchise)|another time and place]], but also healed all of Bumblebee's wounds. Prime pulled Wataru away from the shard and things returned to normal, leaving Bumblebee and the boy to marvel over what had occurred, and Prime to ponder what it might mean. Bumblebee then took Wataru back to school, but when he nearly blabbed everything that had happened to him to the assembled teachers, students and police, Bumblebee was forced to bump into him from behind shut him up. Unfortunately for 'Bee, he then had to beat a hast retreat as the police came chasing after him for his "hit and run" offense! {{storylink|Kingdom of Giants}}

Bumblebee was next called into action when Starscream attacked a hydro-electric power plant with the help of his brainwashed comrade, [[Jetfire (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! Bun Bun manga|Skyfire]]. {{storylink|The Enemy from the Arctic}} Once again, Bumblebee tried to save Wataru from the Decepticons and was blasted as a result. This time, however, the pair were both saved by Skyfire, who was struggling against the mind-controlling influence of the helmet Starscream had placed on his head. All the combatants were shocked when a surge of familiar surge of energy erupted from Wataru's body; again, Bumblebee's wounds were healed, and Skyfire was empowered to overcome the helmet. Skyfire helped fend the Decepticons off and joined the Autobots, returning with them to their base where Prime explained to Bumblebee what he had come to understand about Wataru: he was a being known as a "[[Booster]]", born with the ability to control the energies of the Energon Cube. Both Bumblebee and Wataru were very excited at the idea that Wataru would now be able to help the Autobots in their fight. {{storylink|Wataru's Power}}

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{{storylink|Optimus Prime's Secret}} {{storylink|Time of Resurrection}} {{storylink|Creation! The New Emperor of Destruction!!}} {{storylink|The Threat of Galvatron}} {{storylink|Revenge (issue)|Revenge}} {{storylink|A Nightmare, Once Again}} {{storylink|To the Sea of Stars}}
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==="Universe" cartoon===
[[Image:FfE Bumblebee.JPG|left|thumb|250px|Is he Schwarzebee… or Bumblenegger?]]
Bumblebee and [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] were out for a drive when they discovered [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] and [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] mining fuel near an abandoned [[Rock-It Fuel|gas station]]. Bumblebee wanted to rush in but Optimus Prime suggested they create a diversion. They caused an explosion which distracted Cyclonus. Bumblebee attacked and kept him busy while Optimus Prime snuck up and hit him over the head with his [[energon-axe]]. Megatron chose to blow up the mining operation and retreat with Cyclonus. Optimus Prime and Bumblebee drove off leaving the flaming wreckage of the mining operation behind. {{storylink|Fight for Energon}}
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===''Wings of Honor'' continuity===
{{note|''Wings of Honor'' continuity takes place in a variant [[Generation 1 cartoon continuity]] timestream.}}

Goldbug arrived with reinforcements from Autobot City to help [[Pyro|Spark]]’s team fight [[Clench (G1)|Clench]]'s [[Decepticon Syndicate]] which had taken over the [[Large Hadron Collider]] in [[Switzerland]]. After being exposed to the [[forestonite]] gas, he became a gold version of his original Bumblebee body, though now with the added ability to float and generate electrical stings from his fists. {{storylink|Generation 2: Redux}}
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==Games==
===Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons===
Bumblebee was amongst the Autobots abducted and held captive by the Decepticons, prompting Optimus Prime to enter the Decepticons' maze-like base in a rescue operation. {{storylink|Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons|Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons packaging blurb and game}}
===The Transformers (1985)===
Bumblebee was among the few remaining Autobots in the wake of the Decepticon creation of ROBO-CLONING technology. With his energy-starved comrades, he desperately sought pieces of the Autobot Energon Cube before the Decepticons could get their hands on them. {{storylink|The Transformers (Commodore 64)|The Transformers}}

===The Transformers: Battle to Save the Earth===
[[Image:C64Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|250px|]]

Along with his fellow Autobots, Bumblebee protected Earth from the menace of the Decepticons. He was ostensibly under the command of [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]]. {{storylink|The Transformers: Battle to Save the Earth}}
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===3D Battle-Card Game===
Bumblebee was one of [[Optimus Primal]]'s many Autobot allies in a fight against [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s Decepticon army. {{storylink|3D Battle-Card Game#Energon Wars expansion|Energon Wars Expansion Set}}

===''The Transformers'' (PS2)===
:''Voice actor'': [[Jack Merluzzi]]
{{storylink|The Transformers (PS2)|The Transformers}}
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===''Sector Seven'' game===
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{{storylink|Sector Seven (game)}}

===Transformers G1: Awakening===
{{storylink|Transformers G1: Awakening}}
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==Toys==
{{main|Bumblebee (G1)/toys}}

==Merchandise==
{{main|Bumblebee (G1)/toys#Merchandise}}

==Notes==
* The original Bumblebee toy was taken from the Japanese ''[[Micro Change|Microchange]]'' line, where it was available in yellow, red, and blue versions.

* Bumblebee appeared in one of five [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[public service announcement]]s, informing children that they shouldn't run away from home because it's "mean". This from the guy who ditched the Autobots for no real reason.

[[Image:PretenderBumblebeeModel.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Bumblebee's rarely-seen Classic Pretenders character model. (Optimus Prime wants Goldbug back.)]]
* When Bumblebee reappeared in the Marvel Comics as a [[Classic Pretender]], he returned to his original toy's [[character model]], rather than one based on his new form. A new character model did appear in various toy commercials, however. These included one which introduced him and the other Classic Pretenders, and one where he and Jazz stupidly drag [[Micromaster]] bases into Autobot headquarters, causing everyone to flee when they transform and attack.

* According to [[Battle for Cybertron]], Bumblebee is a code-name.

* Bumblebee/Goldbug was clearly a "top-tier" character in the first decade of ''Transformers'': he was the only 1984 Autobot still shipping in 1986; he received more toys during Generation 1 than any other character; he had a toy shipping during seven of Generation 1's eight-year run. However, [[Hasbro]] lost the right to use "Bumblebee" as a toy [[trademark]] during the ''[[Beast Wars (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'' and ''[[Beast Machines (franchise)|Beast Machines]]'' years, when Generation 1 names were in disuse. That's right, the name "Bumblebee" was lost during the years everyone turned into animals.

* The ''[[Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' [[Mini-Con]], [[Sparkplug (Armada)|Sparkplug]] is pretty clearly an [[homage]] to Bumblebee, from the coloration, placement of car-parts in robot mode, segmented-pipe biceps and even the head design.

[[Image:Hotbumblebee.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Hey! Look at that hot brunette! No... not [[Mikaela Banes|that one]]!]]

* A robot using Bumblebee's character model is shown in a still-shot flashback as a member of the Autobot group led by [[Rodimus (Energon)|Rodimus]]. Whether this robot is an alternate-universe incarnation of Bumblebee or simply a similar-looking robot is—like all [[Unicron Trilogy]] character-model cameos—left to conjecture.

* According to EJ Su, Bumblebee's [[Holomatter|Holomatter avatar]] is modeled after [[wikipedia:Lindsay_Lohan|Lindsay Lohan]], an actress who plays a girl that drives [[wikipedia:Herbie|Herbie]], a sentient Beetle. ''Um, well''.<ref>[http://www.protodepot.com/archive/2007_11_01_archive.html Idea: Holomatter Projection]</ref>

*Goldbug was actually a preliminary name for Bumblebee during early treatments for the Marvel Comics!<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/conventions-15/botcon-2010-bob-budiansky-panel-coverage-170041/ Bob Budiansky BotCon Panel Coverage]</ref>

* In the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity]], [[Goldbug (IDW)|Goldbug]] is a separate character who co-exists with Bumblebee. Yeah, it's slightly crazy.

*Bumblebee is the only member of the Transformers Hall of Fame who has not been killed in any of the Transformers cartoons.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Bumble''' (バンブル ''Banburu''), '''Goldback''' (Goldbug, ゴールドバック ''Gōrudobakku'')
*''Cantonese:'' '''Daai Wong Fung''' (大黃蜂, "Bumblebee")
*''Czech:'' '''Čmelák''' ("Bumblebee")
*''French:'' '''Bourdon''' (Canada, "Bumblebee"), '''Coccinelle''' (Canada, "Ladybug" or "Beetle")<ref>The Volkswagen Beetle was called "Coccinelle" in French areas, which is the French word for ladybug.</ref>
*''Hungarian:'' '''Űrdongó''' ("Space-bumblebee"), '''Dongó''' (''The Movie'', "Bumblebee"), '''Aranybogár''' ("Goldbug")
*''Italian:'' '''Maggiolino''' ("Beetle"), '''Wagenbot''' (Goldbug)
*''Mandarin:'' '''Dà Huáng-fēng''' (大黃蜂, "Bumblebee")
*''Polish:'' '''Trzmiel''' ("Bumblebee")
*''Portuguese:'' '''Moscardo''' (Portugal comics, "Hornet"), '''Furão''' (Brazil comics, "Ferret")
*''Russian:'' '''Shershen'''' (dub, Шершень, "Hornet")
*''South American:'' '''Volks'''
*''Ukrainian:'' '''Dzhmil"''' (ICTV, Джміль, "Bumblebee")

==References==
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==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/Bumblebee/bumblebee.htm Bumblebee at TFU.info]
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Bumblebee Bumblebee's Universe profile at NTFA.net]
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Goldbug Goldbug's Universe profile at NTFA.net]
*[http://www.tf-1.com/articles/mini_frame.php?art=whitemexbee White Mexican Bumblebee gallery at TF-1.com]

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The name '''Bumblebee''' can refer to several different characters:

{{disamb|y=1984|[[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]], the yellow [[kid-appeal character]] from [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]. For a while he was known as '''Goldbug''' before going back to Bumblebee. For toys of this character, see [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys]]. For a summarization of his cartoon continuity activities, see [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]}}

{{disamb|y=2007|[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]], the silent yellow <strike>one-man franchise</strike> kid-appeal character from the [[Transformers (2007)|2007 film]]. For toys of this character, see [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys]]. For merchandise, see [[Bumblebee (Movie)/merchandise]].}}

{{disamb|y=2007|[[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]], the yellow kid-appeal character from ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]]''.}}

{{disamb|y=2008|[[Goldbug (SG)|Bumblebee]], later known as '''Goldbug''', the evil Autobot spy/[[Seeker (SG)|Seeker]] commander from ''[[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]''. Partially yellow, definitely ''not'' kid-appeal.}}

{{disamb|y=2010|''[[The Transformers: Bumblebee]]'', an [[IDW Publishing|IDW]] comic mini-series set in the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity]].}}

{{disamb|y=2010|[[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]], the yellow kid-appeal character from ''[[Transformers: Prime (franchise)|Prime]]''.}}

{{disamb|y=2011|[[Bumblebee (SG Animated)|Bumblebee]], the white backstabber from the ''Animated'' BotCon 2011 Attendee Lithographs.}}

{{disamb|y=2011|[[Bumblebee (Kre-O)|Bumblebee]], the Autobot brick-based kid-appeal being from [[Kre-O]].}}

"Bumblebee" (French: Bourdon) is also the Quebecois French name for [[Waspinator]]'s original toy.

Bumblebee should not be confused with:

* [[Goldbug (IDW)|Goldbug]], the one [[Goldbug (disambiguation)|Goldbug]] who was never Bumblebee.

*[[Bumper (G1)|Bumper]], [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] and [[Hubcap (G1)|Hubcap]], who all had very similar molds and colors to the original ''Generation 1'' Bumblebee, leading to confusions.

* The [[Wireless Automated Sales Person]] (or WASP for short), the ''[[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]'' Autobot whose appearance is based on the ''Transformers Animated'' [[Bumblebee (Animated)#EliteGuard|Elite Guard Bumblebee toy]].

* Any other [[Kid-appeal character]], especially the [[Cheetor (BW)|yellow]] [[Hot Shot (Armada)|ones]].

* [[Hot Shot (Armada)]], who was originally intened to be named Bumblebee.
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Goldbug (SG)

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{{disambig3.5|the evil Autobot Seeker|his heroic Throttlebot counterpart|Bumblebee (G1)|Goldbug}}
:''Goldbug is an evil [[Autobot]] [[Seeker (SG)|Seeker]] from the "[[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]" [[continuity family]].''
[[Image:Shattered Goldbug.jpg|right|294px|thumb|Grrrr. Arg.]]
'''Goldbug''', the evil [[Seeker (SG)|Seeker]] commander, was once a shiftless drifter named Bumblebee. Survival on the streets of [[Polyhex]] meant learning to become a sneak, a pickpocket, and blackmailer, and at these things Bumblebee excelled. When he joined [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]]'s brutal [[Autobot]] forces, his bravery put him on the fast track to power, and when [[Drench (SG)|Drench]] was "removed" by Prime, Bumblebee was rebuilt as Goldbug and took his place. Though he holds a high position in the Autobot hierarchy, he is extremely paranoid that he is not appreciated by his peers and will be summarily replaced.
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==Fiction==
===Shattered Expectations===
Goldbug led [[Jazz (SG)|Jazz]] and [[Grimlock (SG)|Grimlock]] in a search for the ancient [[Pretender]] technology, intending to use it to give them the edge against the [[Decepticon]] insurgency. He appeared to be the leader of the trio (barely). However, their plan was foiled by the arrival of [[Starscream (SG)|Starscream]] and the [[Mayhem Suppression Squad]]. {{storylink|Shattered Expectations}}

===Shattered Glass===
[[Image:Shatteredglasstheoldone.jpg|thumb|left|200px|"Sorry sir, I spaced out after 'along with'. What do I need to understand?"]]
Goldbug was present at the execution of [[Rumble (SG)|Rumble]] when Optimus Prime brought their "old friend" [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] in to view the festivities. Later on, he was discussing the launch of the ''[[Ark (SG)|Ark]]'' with Prime and [[Blurr (SG)|Blurr]] in the combat training room. Goldbug mentioned that the "[[Alpha Trion (SG)|Old One]]" wouldn't have approved of the current plan, but Optimus quickly shot down his objections. Goldbug and the other [[Seeker (SG)|Seeker]]s defended the ''Ark'''s launch platform from Decepticon attack, but failed to stop Cliffjumper from scuttling the liftoff. {{storylink|Shattered Glass (issue)|Shattered Glass}}

When [[Wheeljack (SG)|Wheeljack]]'s new creations, the [[Dinobot (SG)|Dinobot]]s, ran amok, both Autobot and Decepticon alike were forced to chase them down before the other side could modify their A.I.s. Gotta catch 'em all. Goldbug and [[Jazz (SG)|Jazz]] located [[Swoop (SG)|Swoop]] atop an observation tower. Unfortunately, he could fly and neither of them could. Goldbug volunteered Jazz to climb up and fetch the Dinobot, but J wasn't having none of that. [[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]] and Blurr arrived and made a consensus (with laser rifles) that Jazz would be climbing. In a move that surprised no one except Jazz, Swoop took off flying the moment Prime's bodyguard laid a hand on him. Goldbug got the creature in his sights and shot it down, bringing Swoop and Jazz crashing to Earth. When Blurr inquired why Goldbug didn't just shoot the Dinobot in the first place, Goldbug shrugged and said that now they didn't have to climb up and fetch it. {{storylink|Dungeons & Dinobots}}

The ''Ark'' was finally repaired and ready for launch when Optimus Prime ran off to deal with [[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]]. Goldbug and Blurr caught Rodimus fiddling with a communications console, preventing Prime from calling in. Blurr started to bluster at the insubordination, but Goldbug was willing to hear Rodimus' explanation. Rodimus argued that Optimus' obsession with Megatron was holding them all back. Cybertron was a dead world now, and with Prime out of the picture, Earth would be ripe for their taking. Goldbug agreed, and Blurr was thrown off the ship for remaining loyal to Prime.

Later, when the ''Ark'' and the ''[[Nemesis (SG)|Nemesis]]'' were locked in battle above [[Earth]], Goldbug manned the ''Ark''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s sensor station. [[Astrotrain (SG)|Astrotrain]] succeeded in severely damaging the ''Ark''. Goldbug had time to curse the coward Rodimus, who fled in an escape pod, before calling for all hands to brace for impact. {{storylink|Do Over}}

After the crash, Goldbug initially hooked up with [[Big Daddy (SG)|Big Daddy]], [[Brawn (SG)|Brawn]] and [[Beachcomber (SG)|Beachcomber]] as they went searching for their "valiant leader". It was fortuitous, wonderful, outstanding when they finally crossed paths with the opportunist, and had the opportunity for revenge. Rodimus did some fast talking, though, and his stories of human allies and the Decepticons getting vaped led Goldbug to hold his fire long enough to hear the Seeker leader out. They returned to the ''Ark'' in order to make a proper assessment of the state of the planet. Goldbug and the Autobots had quite a bit of difficulty understanding the concept of "renewable resources" their human allies the Witwickys tried to explain.

Strategy wasn't the only thing on Goldbug's mind, however — using Rodimus's bail-out during the crash as an excuse, he challenged Rodimus for leadership of the Autobots. The two Seekers battled on the bridge of the ''Ark'', with the fully-reenergized Goldbug soon gaining the upperhand. Rodimus was far more craft, though — he voice-activated [[Teletraan-X]] and deleted the ID-recognition file for Goldbug, causing the ship to identify him as an enemy combatant. Goldbug was quickly retrained by the internal security systems, and held helpless before Rodimus ''Prime''. Despite his precarious position, Goldbug agreed to yield only if Rodimus left him as second-in-command. Showing the sort of logic and reasoning positive-matter Decepticon leaders have displayed for eons, Rodimus laughingly agreed to keep the ambitious Goldbug as his right-hand bot. After all, no way Goldbug would let anyone ''else'' in the Autobots kill Rodimus before him.

As the Autobots prepared for their strike on the control base for America's [[Global Orbiting Defense Satellite|GODS]] space weapon, Goldbug and [[Wheeljack (SG)|Wheeljack]] joined Rodimus for the infiltration mission. Like the Trojan horse, they got captured and taken inside the base along with their "drivers", the Witwickys, just before the rest of the Autobots launched an assault from outside. Striking from both in and outside the base, the Autobots soon controlled the satellite station and its deadly particle beam weapon. Their assault soon drew the attention of the surviving Decepticons, however, and the Cybertronian Civil War officially took up residence on Earth. Goldbug was attacked by the diminutive [[Frenzy (SG)|Frenzy]] and his two human friends, who used a fire extinguisher to temporarily blind the Seeker and steal his weapon. To add injury to insult, the weaponless Goldbug was then forced to deal with the Incredible fury of Frenzy unleashed. The Decepticons were able to reclaim the military base, and the Autobots were driven off. {{storylink|Eye in the Sky}}

Still working for his own advancement, Goldbug commissioned [[Side Burn (SG)|Side Burn]] and Wheeljack to create a [[Stellar Spanner]] out in the desert without Rodimus Prime's knowledge. They were nearly finished when the Decepticons [[Blitzwing (SG)|Blitzwing]] and [[Heatwave (Timelines)|Heatwave]] stumbled upon their location. Seizing the opportunity, Goldbug planned to launch Heatwave through the untested machine to make sure it worked. Blitzwing attempted to stop them by hooking directly into the Spanner's digital landscape, but failed due to Wheeljack's electro-shells. The feedback had a side-effect, however, of sending out a cacophony of fleshling music on the Autobots' communications frequency. Unable to even think straight, Goldbug blasted the Spanner to keep the Decepticons from using it and ordered a retreat.

Back at the ''Ark'', Goldbug was forced to answer to Rodimus Prime for his antics. Fearing another clash with Teletraan-X's servo, Goldbug babbled off whatever he could think of to stay Rodimus's fury. Luckily, his only punishment ended up being salvage duty with [[Seaspray (SG)|Seaspray]], as the Agonizing Rehabilitation Chambers were conveniently broken. {{storylink|Blitzwing Bop}}

Goldbug took part in the raid on [[R.J. Blackrock|Blackrock]]'s [[Mega-Rig]], warning everyone to stick to hand-to-hand combat to avoid damaging their prize. He, Side Burn and Beachcomber later joined Rodimus when their leader met with Blackrock to listen to an offer he had for them. Despite Goldbug's strenuous objections, Rodimus accepted the offer. Soon after, the Autobots captured two of the Decepticons' human friends, [[Sephie Beller]] and [[Rick Ottman]]. Goldbug held Rick at gunpoint when the Decepticons turned up, and the Decepticons were soon bound prisoners. When [[Sir Soundwave|Soundwave]] revealed that he wasn't the one who'd put up the jamming field, Goldbug wondered aloud who was doing the jamming. His answer came moments later when the Autobots were attacked by Blackrock in his [[Centurion (SG)|Centurion]] mech. Goldbug and Swoop initially managed to restrain the robot, but the Centurion's defenses were too formidable, and the Autobots were eventually forced to retreat. {{storylink|Transhuman}}

At some unspecified point in time, Goldbug and a team of Autobots somehow under the command of both [[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus Prime]] and [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]] fought [[Thundercracker (SG)|Thundercracker]] and [[Ravage (SG)|Ravage]] in the Transformers' greatest battle on Earth, "[[Digital Doom on the Highway to Destruction (SG)|Digital Doom on the Highway to Destruction]]." According to Ravage, anyway. {{storylink|Recordicons#Recordicons #3|Recordicons #3}}
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==Toys==
===Timelines===
[[Image:ShatteredGlasstoy-Goldbug.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Started a "Bad Bugs" club with [[Bug Bite (G1)|Bug Bite]].]]
*'''Shattered Glass''' (BotCon box set, 2008)
**''Accessories'': Launcher, missile, key

: Part of [[BotCon 2008]]'s [[exclusive]] box set of five figures, Goldbug is a [[retool]] of [[Hot Shot (Armada)/toys#Cybertron 2|''Cybertron'' Hot Shot]] with a new head sculpt based on [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[Bumblebee (G1)|Goldbug]] and a new black, yellow, and blue color scheme, bearing a little resemblance to [[:Image:Movie Deluxe StealthBumblebee toy.jpg|Stealth Bumblebee]]. He transforms into a modified [[wikipedia:Chrysler ME Four-Twelve|Chrysler ME Four-Twelve concept car]]. Plugging a [[Cyber Key]] into his trunk (his is a clear-orange [[Velocitron]]-style key with a black border) deploys transparent blue wings from his spoiler. The toy also comes with a spring-loaded missile-launching gun that can be carried in robot mode or pegged into the roof of the car mode.

: His mold was also used to make ''[[Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' [[Excellion (Cybertron)|Excellion]] and [[Movie (toyline)|live-action movie-verse]] [[Breakaway (Movie)|Breakaway]].

: Goldbug is only available as part of a set of six toys, along with [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]], [[Jazz (SG)|Autobot Jazz]], [[Grimlock (SG)|Grimlock]], [[Razorclaw (SG)|Razorclaw]] and [[Starscream (SG)|Starscream]].
:*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/BCGoldbug/goldbug.htm More information on Goldbug at TFU.info]''

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Bumblebee (SG)

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Talk:The Transformers (Marvel comic)

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==Organization==

It's good to see some summaries showing up, but I think we need to think about how to organize things. IMO, there should be a "main" article for every comic book series which includes an overview and a list of issues. Each issue of the comic will then have its own article.

That does, however, raise the question of how to name the pages for comic issues, especially the original comic where even using issue names may cause conflict between the US and UK editions. I think that issue names are a better way to go than issue numbers, at least.

I'm inclined to say that the UK comic should be treated as the "real" comic series because of its additional material. The US comic is a subset of it.

A page for a UK comic issue then, in my ideal world, would be named after the issue. Among other information near the top of the article, it would state whether that UK story appeared in a US issue or not, and if so, what issue (number and name).

A page for a US comic issue has two possibilities: If the issue name was also an issue name for the UK version, there simply is no separate page for the US issue. If the US issue name was not duplicated in the UK (and I don't even know if that ever happened) then the US issue article should just redirect to the appropriate UK issue which reprints the first part of that US issue.

This all just off the top of my head, and shouldn't be taken as authoritative or anything. Still, I am really big on the idea of organizing things in a systematic way, and I think that this would make things a lot easier. I would welcome comments from others.

--[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 06:47, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

(G.B. Blackrock: 2006/03/07 - 7:24 pm PST) While I can see the reason for wanting to make the UK comic primary, and the US comic a subset, that would pretty much make it impossible for me to complete any more entries, as I have no idea where the breaks would come in the middle of the US stories, even assuming I consulted a chart telling me which UK issue lined up with which US story....

If someone would set up a template, I'm happy to make my existing entries match the template. As it is, I'm creating stuff from scratch. Seemed necessary with so little existing on the board already.... [[User:G.B. Blackrock]]

(G.B. Blackrock: 2006/03/09 - 10:14 am PST) I've held off on making any further additions for the moment in hopes that someone else might come on with input. I certainly agree that a standardized organizational scheme would be helpful. I'm inclined at the moment to go ahead with my US entries, and let anyone who has the UK comics make their entries in the still-separate UK comics page. It would be a reasonably simple matter to link the appropriate UK issues to their US counterparts, but then I don't have to worry about incorporating UK continuity into the US line, since I don't have these issues.

Furthermore, while the UK continuity does ''mostly'' contain all of the US continuity, there are a few rather significant differences, such as the reason why Bumblebee was rebuilt into Goldbug.

For these reasons, I'm inclined to continue treating US continuity as separate from the UK continuity, and not as a subset. I am still open to other opinions, especially in regard to standardization.[[User:G.B. Blackrock]]

As I understand it, about 90% of the comic is identical between the versions (excluding the additional content for the UK comics). So it would be far simpler to just use the UK comics, and just mention any differences as they appear, when appropriate, within the article itself.

This is, of course, assuming I'm not mistaken, which I am quite often.--[[User:OctopusPrime|Octopus Prime- King of the Road!]] 19:49, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

(G.B. Blackrock: 2006/03/09 - 4:56 pm PST) At the risk of sounding US-centric, I still think making the US entries a "sub-set" of the UK ones would cause more confusion than help. If someone can actually ''demonstrate'' how this would play out be actualy creating some entries that I could follow the pattern of, I'd be happy to be proven wrong, though.[[User:G.B. Blackrock]]

I don't think necessarily either need to be considered a sub-set; but over IRC, Jhi raised a few valid points. The headers for comic issue pages should give the US and UK issue numbers equal billing, especially if we're just going to have the UK issue list link to them. Individual articles should be about the story as it appears in ''both'' countries' issues. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 00:02, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

My thought was to give the original publisher primacy, and list other versions of the same story below. So "Man of Iron" would list the UK printing up top, but the US reissues below, for example.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 00:13, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

==Main G1 comics==
It occurs to me that our current listing has one link for the G1 Marvel comics, but that the three separate DW comics (none of which have pages, it would seem) are given separate links. Either we should add the Marvel Headmasters, TFU, and the GI/Joe crossover (which was in the same continuity, even if it WAS later ignored) here, or we should consolidate the DW entries. The latter is my preference, but I'm wondering if that would create unforeseen problems elsewhere. Thoughts?--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 18:55, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

==UK "issue" pages==

(snipping a lot of stuff that's probably not of any further interest. People can get them back out with "history" if they disagree....)

I wonder if, especially for UK comics, we should change the links so that each UK issue links to a separate "issue" page, with the separate stories being linked as they currently are (all current comic pages are organized by story title). Besides the "back-up" features you mention, later UK TF comics often have TWO TF stories running concurrently, and the current system does not account for this well. But I'm not the best person to suggest an alternative. My expertise is in the US comic, which tended to have just one story per issue, and little else. The US comic even tended to break up story arcs into individual titles for each issue more often than not....

Shouldn't we have talked about merging the UK and US comics into one entry before actually doing it?....--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 23:35, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

:Should we have? It's easily fixed if that's deemed not acceptable. The real big change here was making [[List of Generation 1 comics|Generation 1 (comic)]] be a disambiguation rather than blurb on the Marvel US comic, because that is most certainly ''not'' the only Generation 1 comic, and it's probably not even the one that most people would be interested in.
:I decided to just fold the content in that article into Marvel UK, because do we ''really'' need two seperate pages on the two Marvel comics? If we actually do get enough content to warrant two articles, it's easy enough to split the two. But like I said, the major change her isn't the merge, it's putting a proper disambiguation page at the G1 comic link.
:Apologies for the alleged "UK bias" in the little blurb. I've never actually read any significant part of either Marvel comic, and know next to nothing about either, so I can say that definitely was not intended. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 00:24, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

It's not a big deal to have them merged, and the way it was done (leaving the US and UK sections separate within the same page) I can live with. I'm absolutely opposed to folding all the US stuff into the UK page, though, as I've said elsewhere. I do ''not'' see these two as the same entity, but rather as two distinct, yet often similar and occasionally overlapping, entities. I just would have liked to be aware of the change beforehand, is all.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 00:46, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

I've written a bit more on the UK comic, trying to explain its format and its relationship with the US comic. I think I'm right in identifying the 'Perchance to Dream' storyline as the point where US and UK separate, but I can't remember when the original UK material dried up. Was it around #290? --[[User:Tribimat|Tribimat]] 02:08, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

:Actually, I see it differently. I don't see the US and the UK as "separating," because I see them as ''already separate.'' They may look the same in many cases, but they're separate. This is borne out by the few, but significant, differences between them, such as how Bumblebee is turned into Goldbug. Clearly, there is room for differences of opinion on how individuals look at the canon, but the fact that there ARE these distinctions are part of why I oppose any attempt to force US stories ''into'' the UK continuity on this Wiki, which should essentially present the facts as they appear. (Incidentally, the way you describe the UK version in the actual article is fine with me)--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 03:34, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Seperating the UK and US comics would give legitimate space to discuss the various special features the UK comic had which had no counterpart in the US comic. Things like the letters pages answered by Transformer characters, fact files (which, in the early days weren't straight reprints of Transformers: The Universe), back up strips, competitions, humourous strips (Robo Capers, Matt and the Cat, Combat Colin - some of which had directly Transformer-related content). Sorry, can't sign this comment as I'm just a visitor.

==How to deal with UK issues with multiple stories==
I'm still trying to figure out how to deal with the issues in the UK (especially around the late-200s) that have more than one story contained therein. The current set-up probably won't continue to work for these issues. How's this for an option?

{|style="margin:0 auto;padding:0 auto" align=center id=toc
!align=center bgcolor=#6699CC|'''Marvel UK issues (lead stories):'''
|-
|| [[Kings of the Wild Frontier.|#284]] | [[Kings of the Wild Frontier.|#285]] | [[Deadly Obsession|#286]] | [[Deadly Obsession|#287]] | [[Deadly Obsession|#288]] | [[Deadly Obsession|#289]]
|}

{|style="margin:0 auto;padding:0 auto" align=center id=toc
!align=center bgcolor=#6699CC|'''Marvel UK issues (back-up stories):'''
|-
|| [[Assassins|#284]] | [[External Forces!|#285]] | [[The Lesser Evil!|#286]] | [[Inside Story!|#287]] | [[Front Line!|#288]] | [[End of the Road! (UK)|#289]]
|}
Note that the back-up to UK #289 is a different "End of the Road" than US #80 (Which is actually entitled "The End of the Road," which may or may not seem significant.)--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 18:48, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
: Looks good to me. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 22:18, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

: Is there a way to get all information on a particular issue onto an entry for that issue? For instance, issue 213 will have a "US Story" link that refers to the relevant US strip (which will be identical for 214-216), a "UK Story" section that gives a full account of the UK strip (in this instance, I think it's Megatron's return to Cybertron with Ravage), and a "Back-up Story" section that gives a brief account of the back-up strip. I realise that the back-up stories in most cases aren't TF-related, but they were an integral part of the UK comic experience. I'll try to put an example entry together this week and you can see what you think.

: Incidentally, I take the point about the UK and US continuities not being the same. I'm not at all hung up on "canon" and am much more interested in detailing the things as stories. I just wanted to say that #255-60 is where the two parallel continuities go in completely and irreconcilably different directions. At some point I'd also like to write something about how Furman used his knowledge of what was happening in the US stories to foreshadow later events - the story 'Prey' and the return to Cybertron (UK #97-104) is a classic example, featuring both Optimus Prime's "death" and Megatron's madness.

: Now that I think about it, the letters page was often used as a vehicle for explaining how the US and UK stories fitted together. They should be an excellent resource for this sort of thing. When I've got access to the original issues again, I'll see what comes up.--[[User:Tribimat|Tribimat]] 00:22, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

::Actually, my preference (other things being equal) would be to have the comics entries organized by issue number, but it was decided early on that it would be redundant to have separate pages for issues of the UK comic that were largely already duplicated on the US page for the similar story. (US stories tend to be 1-per-issue. This not often the case in the UK comic.) A compromise position was to make the pages story-specific, rather than issue-specific. This is working for now, but as I've already noted, appears as though it may be unwieldy as we look at UK issues in the future. I could do this issue-by-issue for the entire US series with no trouble at all, but I'm not arrogant enough to think that the US is the only, or even the "most correct," way of looking at it. I've argued fairly strongly for US comic integrity, but have tried to stop short of giving it "supremacy." It's just that the US comic is what I know. I know it fairly well. But I don't have the background to say much about the UK comic beyond what I know from the Internet.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 02:51, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

I've come across some issues of the UK comic that have two TF-related stories, but the "lead" story is just a reprint, while the "back-up" black-and-white story is new. (So far, I've only put links for #221-228 that fit this description) Under the rubric I proposed above, I've felt compelled to make the link in the main (i.e. "lead story") UK chart go to the reprinted story, while the new story is relegated to the "back-up" chart. This technically seems to work, but seems rather unsatisfying. Thoughts?--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 20:41, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

:I've decided that it would be simpler to only put 2nd stories in the bottom grid in the cases where one of the two TF stories contained has not already been printed in the UK previously. This means that some "back up" black and whites are actually in the top grid, but since these tend to be the stories featured on the front cover (since the "main" color story is a reprint), that makes more sense, I think.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 02:49, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

==The UK Annuals==
Hi. I was just wondering if there should be a space on this page for the UK Annuals and if so what format it should take? There were a couple of annual stories that linked heavily into the main UK strip so it seems like something that is needed for the sake of completion.

As each annual contains several stories and there are only a few of them I was going to suggest a seperate table for each annual with links to individual stories. Does anyone have any opinions/guidance on this?--[[User:Omnisvalidus|Omnisvalidus]] 18:46, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

:As nobody has comented on this I have added the annuals in. [[User:Omnisvalidus|Omnisvalidus]] 18:33, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

==Issue Numbers, Issue Titles==
This is a very useful page, what with having all the issues linked by number. Unfortunately, it's also a somewhat difficult page to find. Few if any of the individual issues link back to it. Instead, they link back to [[:Category:Marvel_US_issues]], which lo and behold doesn't list the issue numbers.

So if you're browsing along, and suddenly find yourself on, say, [[Trial by Fire!]], good luck finding the page about the next issue. Shouldn't the issue titles in the category also mention a number, and shouldn't there be a sequential listing that all the issues link back to?

OR OR OR, as Sipher just mentioned, there's a "Next issue/Previous issue" box floating around on a few issues' pages. That'd at least provide continuity if it got worked onto all the pages. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 07:14, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

=="Comic" or "Comics"? (also, upper or lower-case?)==
A recent revision was made to the Marvel G1 link so that it wouldn't have to "redirect" to the actual site. I agree with this, in principle. However, it highlights an inconsistency, as we now have links for [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Generation 1 (Marvel Comics)]] and [[Generation One (Dreamwave comic)|Generation 1 (Dreamwave comic)]]. One or both of these should be changed to resemble the other. Do we go with the singular "comic" or the plural "comics"? (Also, capitalization should be consistent. I'm assuming that lower-case is preferred. Indeed, I'd suggest "comic" as the preferable form, since the title of this very page uses the lower-case singular form.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 00:00, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
: "Marvel Comics" is the name of the company, so that is why it is capitalized. Dreamwave's company title does not have "Comics" in it, so "comics" is added so we know what kind medium the fiction is. The difference in capitalization between the two is INTENTIONAL. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:03, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
::I don't know if I buy that explanation... Or, rather, even if you are literally sure it's intentional and aren't rationalizing a mistake, I don't think that explanation suffices. There is no need to specify the media type in the parenthetical. The two should match in structure, being either "Dreamwave" and "Marvel Comics" or "Dreamwave comic" and "Marvel Comics comic" (which sounds stupid). I'd also accept dropping the "Comics" part of Marvel's name since it's not really needed, and also that's not their name anymore anyway. That would give us "Dreamwave"/"Marvel" or "Dreamwave comic"/"Marvel comic". --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 01:01, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
::::"rationalizing a mistake"? Dude, I go through pages and FIX the capitalization it so it's that way, for that reason. This is almost entirely in the fiction sections of all the articles, but specifying "comics" in some fashion after "Marvel" after "Generation 1" is crucial, as, well, you know, the cartoon was co-produced by Marvel. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:07, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::So, obviously its intentional. Still, I'd rather see something more consistent. It looks more and more like this particular convention exists only because it's never been noticed as being inconsistent before. By all means, point out "comic" in some fashion after "Marvel." But I still think that "comic" is more appropriate than "Comics", the fact (is it still a fact? Steve-o suggests it isn't anymore.) of Marvel's name being "Marvel Comics" notwithstanding.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 05:29, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Having [[Generation 1 (cartoon)]] and "Generation 1 (Marvel)" co-exists bothers me.
:::I vote for "Generation 1 (Marvel comic)" and "Generation 1 (Dreamwave comic)".
:::There's probably 20 different articles that can be called "Generation 1 (somedisambig)". Just for comics we've had Marvel, Blackthorne, Benchpress (well, not really) 2 different manga publishers, Dreamwave, and IDW. And that's not even all G1 TF comics (Devil's Due's version of the TFU has a non-generic name that avoids it being chronicled under the generic 'Generation 1' label.)
:::Are there ''any'' other articles of this sort where we ''don't'' put the media type in the disambig? I think... in any franchise with more than 1 type of media, the media-type should be ''standard'' as part of the disambig.
:::Disambigs don't ''have'' to provide contextual information, but I think in G1's case, with ''so many'' articles, it's a good idea. Additionally, it would make the G1 articles better fit with the disambiging format used by other franchises. (For the most part other franchises don't have to deal with multiple publishers of a single kind of media, so their sub-pages are ''always'' disambig'd by type of media.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:40, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
It really shouldn't matter that it's just "Marvel" now; we should only be concerned about the name in effect when the comics were actually being published. Unless we're retconning all instances of "Takara" into "TakaraTomy". [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 01:11, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
:Perhaps not, but I still prefer "Marvel comic" for the sake of consistency to "Dreamwave comic". "Marvel" is descriptive enough that everyone knows what's being talked about. It need not be precisely the name of the company.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 02:40, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

==Annual years and releases==

(I'm raising this here as there isn't a generic article for the annuals and it could affect all of them.)

It's my recollection that the annuals released 1985-1987 were always referenced as being the annual for the year of publication (e.g. issue #65, printed in 1986, has a caption referring to "this year's annual"), but from 1988 onwards the annuals are referred to as the next's years, even though the books themselves don't give specific dates (whereas other Marvel UK annuals for Action Force, Thundercats and Visionaries released in 1988 all explicitly say they're the 1989 annual). This has led to quite a bit of confusion over the years as to which annual is which. [[Transformers Annual 1986#Items of Note]] currently states:

''This was the first annual, published for Christmas 1985. Due to the 1985 print date in the cover it is frequently mistakenly referred to as the 1985 annual, however annuals are always printed at the end of the year before.''

Whilst this is the main practice, is there any evidence it specifically applied to Marvel UK in 1985-1987?

Also most of the annuals state they were released in December, but I recall the announcements and adverts for them tended to be in the summer. Further to this the annual released in 1987 is explicitly followed up in stories printed that autumn (issues 135-138) which would have been awkward if the annual wasn't yet on sale. [[User:Timrollpickering|Timrollpickering]] 21:48, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

:The annuals usually appeared in the shops in August or September, believe it or not, so the 1987 annual appeared before ''Grudge Match'' did, and only a few weeks after ''Fire on High'' (the story to which it concluded). What confuses the issue for a lot of people who were kids at the time is that traditionally they didn't get the annuals until Christmas, whilst the comics seemed to often assume that kids would rush out and get them the second they came out. As for which album came out in which year, going by the copyright date seems to be a fairly accurate way of doing it, as that refers to the year in which it was physically published.--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 23:07, 26 April 2009 (EDT)

::I did post something on this somewhere but it's gone astray. Looking through the comics from the time, the annuals (including other Marvel UK output) released in 1986 and 1987 are usually explicitly named as that year's annual. The 1988 release, however, is ambiguous with either "this year's" or "the [Transformers] annual". The 1989-1991 annuals were described with the following year's date.
::Within the annuals themselves only the 1991 release identifies itself in the copyright info as being the "1992" annual. It's notable that the 1988 release doesn't give a year when the contemporary Action Force, Thundercats and Visionaries annuals all identify themselves as the 1989 annual.
::The early Marvel UK practice appears to be in contrast to the general UK trend in children's annuals which is to use the following year, since they are targetted at the Christmand market (and it also gives leftover stock a longer shelf-life). [[User:Timrollpickering|Timrollpickering]] 11:20, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

==Somes changes to the UK section==

I adjusted the UK section with more accurate information on the comic's format changes, which were more complex than originally stated. Most notably, the comic returned to a fortnightly schedule from issue 309 onwards, which is also when they ditched the three-strip structure and returned to the 'classic' format of one Transformers story and one back-up strip. Since I still have almost the whole run of Transformers UK comics in fairly good condition (issues #24-#332), I might take a look at going through the UK comics and adding in any missing information. On the issue of how 'canon' the UK/USA intermingling of stories are, my assessment is that the combined UK/US run is the 'correct' one, given that the later Furman comics refer to events in the UK continuity (Deathbringer, Xaaron, the UK 'creation myth' which appeared many years before in the US etc), with a nod at the headache-inducing Goldbug-creation issue.--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 21:58, 26 April 2009 (EDT)

==(Marvel Comics) vs. (Marvel comic)==
I think this parenthetical should change to "(Marvel comic)". It's always confusing to me when I'm linking here, since we don't say "[[Armada (Dreamwave comic)|(DW Productions)]]" or "[[Armada (Panini comic)|(Panini Comics)]]". - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 23:32, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
:Why not just (Marvel)? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 23:52, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
::Unless you're suggesting a sitewide change, that would still have the inconsistency problem. '''Edit:''' And now that I've actually ''read'' all that discussion I just moved from [[Talk:List of Generation 1 comics|Talk:Generation 1 (comic)]]... it looks like everybody but Walky who put in a vote was agreeing on "(Marvel comic)", with some pretty firm reasoning. So based on that, I'm going to go ahead and move the article. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 00:13, 29 June 2009 (EDT)
:::Again, why two words when one will do? What other "The Transformers" by Marvel are we distinguishing it from? The same goes for Dreamwave and anyone else. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 01:48, 29 June 2009 (EDT)
:::To clarify... "Dreamwave comic" is meant to distinguish it from "Panini comic" or whatever other ''Armada'' comics exist. But in that context, the "comic" becomes unnecessary and should be dropped completely. The ONLY viable argument for keeping it is that Dreamwave also did the mini-comics that came with the toys, but a (mini-comic) disambig should be enough to distinguish between the two.
:::The purposes of a diambig is to allow the co-existence of similarly-named pages, and to allow the reader to figure out which one they're looking for -- not to serve as a descriptor of the page's contents. I say we kill the "comic", across the board. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 01:56, 29 June 2009 (EDT)
::::I see your logic, and the only counterpoint I can think of is that we ''have'' made concessions in our parentheticals for the sake of consistency within a small group. For instance, "Nightstick (Cyclonus)" used to be "Nightstick (Decepticon)", but part of [[Talk:Nightstick_(Cyclonus)#Move|the argument for moving it]] was that it didn't "fit" with [[Nightstick (Artfire)]] and [[Nightstick (Ricochet)]]. Likewise, the ''Shattered Glass'' pages used to be a hodgepodge of "(Shattered Glass)" and "(Timelines)" parentheticals, but they've since all been moved to the former for group-consistency, despite the valid logic that had made them different as individuals. And in this case, as Derik pointed out above, the disparity between [[The Transformers (cartoon)]] and "The Transformers (Marvel)" is kind of jarring. If we use the media in one, it seems fitting to use it in all. I admit that this is a judgement-call area, and I'm by no means steadfastly defending it. But if forced to choose between one or the other, I prefer keeping the media in. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 02:10, 29 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::You know, we actually could move it to The Transformers (comic), since there's only one comic by that name.
:::::But regardless, it should be either The Transformers (Marvel) or The Transformers (comic). It makes sense just fine to me to first disambiguate by medium, then switch to by company only if a medium has more than one same-named series by more than one company. But using both medium ''and'' company in cases where either by itself would be sufficient is redundant and makes more work for editors.
:::::Alternatively we could think about switching to differentiating always by company if we really want to keep things consistent, since that seems like it would also produce only one word parentheticals most of the time, but I just don't see having both "cartoon" and "Marvel" as a problem really. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 07:23, 29 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::''You know, we actually could move it to The Transformers (comic), since there's only one comic by that name.''
::::::That's so obvious, it never even occurred to me. It should absolutely be "The Transformers (comic)". Anyone disagree?
::::::- [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 12:57, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::::[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:G1_Vol.3_Issue0_1.jpg] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:11, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::::The "Generation One" subtitle pretty handily wipes away that problem! -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 13:29, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::[[The Transformers (Madman)]]. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 01:17, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::::::Ah, thank you. That actually brings up a good point: Nowhere in that article does it actually SAY it's a comic book. It even says "Cartoon continuity" (which is of course correct, but it still obscures the fact). It's not hard to intuit that it's printed material, but we should really be clearer than that. If we kept up the trend of including media-type in the parenthetical, then it wouldn't be a problem. But really, that isn't the parenthetical's job. What we need is maybe a standard addition to the infobox. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 01:31, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
:As I'm going through *all* the Marvel comics, trying to clean them up, I'd appreciate it if the Jackass who moved the article could spend a bit of time fixing the millions of links too? Or should we hold off until there's another completely pointless page move? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 08:47, 11 July 2009 (EDT)
::You DO realize we have a bot that's made just for fixing exactly this sort of thing, right? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 09:11, 11 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Requests for moves can be put up at [[User:Deceptitran/Requests]]. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 09:18, 11 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Well if I was the one moving pages for no apparent reason, the first thing I'd do is set the bot to fix the links. I can only assume that happened here...
:::...except it seems to have changed only the links to ''The Transformers'' (US) on each page. Most ''The Transformers'' (UK) links still point to "Generation 1 (Marvel Comics)" or "The Transformers (Marvel Comics)", either with or without the #Marvel UK rider. The whole thing's a clusterfuck right now and I was looking forward to basking in the gentle glow of victory, having uploaded the last of the Marvel UK covers last night. I just don't see the point of creating all the extra work for ourselves because someone is "confused" by the difference between (Marvel Comics) and (Marvel comic). --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 09:28, 11 July 2009 (EDT)

==Ultimate Transformers==
Since Transformers exist within the Mainstream Marvel continuity, doesn't that mean that Transformers should exist within the Ultimate Marvel continuity as well?[[Special:Contributions/71.255.173.5|71.255.173.5]] 22:59, 25 September 2011 (EDT)

::Ultimate continuity was created after the ''Trasformers'' right was passed to other publishers by Marvel. Also, IIRC, ''Transformers'' was originally in Earth-616 but it last extremely short before getting retconned into Earth-Transformers. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 23:17, 25 September 2011 (EDT)

:Officially(?) the Transformers comic takes place on [[Earth-91274]] rather than Earth-616, so it's not a part of the mainstream Marvel continuity. Assuming that doesn't rule out Transformers in the Ultimate continuity, IDW having the license probably does! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:14, 25 September 2011 (EDT)

:Well, the [[New Avengers/Transformers]] cross-over takes place within Earth-616.[[Special:Contributions/71.255.165.156|71.255.165.156]] 17:57, 29 September 2011 (EDT)

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==Organization==

It's good to see some summaries showing up, but I think we need to think about how to organize things. IMO, there should be a "main" article for every comic book series which includes an overview and a list of issues. Each issue of the comic will then have its own article.

That does, however, raise the question of how to name the pages for comic issues, especially the original comic where even using issue names may cause conflict between the US and UK editions. I think that issue names are a better way to go than issue numbers, at least.

I'm inclined to say that the UK comic should be treated as the "real" comic series because of its additional material. The US comic is a subset of it.

A page for a UK comic issue then, in my ideal world, would be named after the issue. Among other information near the top of the article, it would state whether that UK story appeared in a US issue or not, and if so, what issue (number and name).

A page for a US comic issue has two possibilities: If the issue name was also an issue name for the UK version, there simply is no separate page for the US issue. If the US issue name was not duplicated in the UK (and I don't even know if that ever happened) then the US issue article should just redirect to the appropriate UK issue which reprints the first part of that US issue.

This all just off the top of my head, and shouldn't be taken as authoritative or anything. Still, I am really big on the idea of organizing things in a systematic way, and I think that this would make things a lot easier. I would welcome comments from others.

--[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 06:47, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

(G.B. Blackrock: 2006/03/07 - 7:24 pm PST) While I can see the reason for wanting to make the UK comic primary, and the US comic a subset, that would pretty much make it impossible for me to complete any more entries, as I have no idea where the breaks would come in the middle of the US stories, even assuming I consulted a chart telling me which UK issue lined up with which US story....

If someone would set up a template, I'm happy to make my existing entries match the template. As it is, I'm creating stuff from scratch. Seemed necessary with so little existing on the board already.... [[User:G.B. Blackrock]]

(G.B. Blackrock: 2006/03/09 - 10:14 am PST) I've held off on making any further additions for the moment in hopes that someone else might come on with input. I certainly agree that a standardized organizational scheme would be helpful. I'm inclined at the moment to go ahead with my US entries, and let anyone who has the UK comics make their entries in the still-separate UK comics page. It would be a reasonably simple matter to link the appropriate UK issues to their US counterparts, but then I don't have to worry about incorporating UK continuity into the US line, since I don't have these issues.

Furthermore, while the UK continuity does ''mostly'' contain all of the US continuity, there are a few rather significant differences, such as the reason why Bumblebee was rebuilt into Goldbug.

For these reasons, I'm inclined to continue treating US continuity as separate from the UK continuity, and not as a subset. I am still open to other opinions, especially in regard to standardization.[[User:G.B. Blackrock]]

As I understand it, about 90% of the comic is identical between the versions (excluding the additional content for the UK comics). So it would be far simpler to just use the UK comics, and just mention any differences as they appear, when appropriate, within the article itself.

This is, of course, assuming I'm not mistaken, which I am quite often.--[[User:OctopusPrime|Octopus Prime- King of the Road!]] 19:49, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

(G.B. Blackrock: 2006/03/09 - 4:56 pm PST) At the risk of sounding US-centric, I still think making the US entries a "sub-set" of the UK ones would cause more confusion than help. If someone can actually ''demonstrate'' how this would play out be actualy creating some entries that I could follow the pattern of, I'd be happy to be proven wrong, though.[[User:G.B. Blackrock]]

I don't think necessarily either need to be considered a sub-set; but over IRC, Jhi raised a few valid points. The headers for comic issue pages should give the US and UK issue numbers equal billing, especially if we're just going to have the UK issue list link to them. Individual articles should be about the story as it appears in ''both'' countries' issues. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 00:02, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

My thought was to give the original publisher primacy, and list other versions of the same story below. So "Man of Iron" would list the UK printing up top, but the US reissues below, for example.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 00:13, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

==Main G1 comics==
It occurs to me that our current listing has one link for the G1 Marvel comics, but that the three separate DW comics (none of which have pages, it would seem) are given separate links. Either we should add the Marvel Headmasters, TFU, and the GI/Joe crossover (which was in the same continuity, even if it WAS later ignored) here, or we should consolidate the DW entries. The latter is my preference, but I'm wondering if that would create unforeseen problems elsewhere. Thoughts?--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 18:55, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

==UK "issue" pages==

(snipping a lot of stuff that's probably not of any further interest. People can get them back out with "history" if they disagree....)

I wonder if, especially for UK comics, we should change the links so that each UK issue links to a separate "issue" page, with the separate stories being linked as they currently are (all current comic pages are organized by story title). Besides the "back-up" features you mention, later UK TF comics often have TWO TF stories running concurrently, and the current system does not account for this well. But I'm not the best person to suggest an alternative. My expertise is in the US comic, which tended to have just one story per issue, and little else. The US comic even tended to break up story arcs into individual titles for each issue more often than not....

Shouldn't we have talked about merging the UK and US comics into one entry before actually doing it?....--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 23:35, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

:Should we have? It's easily fixed if that's deemed not acceptable. The real big change here was making [[List of Generation 1 comics|Generation 1 (comic)]] be a disambiguation rather than blurb on the Marvel US comic, because that is most certainly ''not'' the only Generation 1 comic, and it's probably not even the one that most people would be interested in.
:I decided to just fold the content in that article into Marvel UK, because do we ''really'' need two seperate pages on the two Marvel comics? If we actually do get enough content to warrant two articles, it's easy enough to split the two. But like I said, the major change her isn't the merge, it's putting a proper disambiguation page at the G1 comic link.
:Apologies for the alleged "UK bias" in the little blurb. I've never actually read any significant part of either Marvel comic, and know next to nothing about either, so I can say that definitely was not intended. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 00:24, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

It's not a big deal to have them merged, and the way it was done (leaving the US and UK sections separate within the same page) I can live with. I'm absolutely opposed to folding all the US stuff into the UK page, though, as I've said elsewhere. I do ''not'' see these two as the same entity, but rather as two distinct, yet often similar and occasionally overlapping, entities. I just would have liked to be aware of the change beforehand, is all.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 00:46, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

I've written a bit more on the UK comic, trying to explain its format and its relationship with the US comic. I think I'm right in identifying the 'Perchance to Dream' storyline as the point where US and UK separate, but I can't remember when the original UK material dried up. Was it around #290? --[[User:Tribimat|Tribimat]] 02:08, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

:Actually, I see it differently. I don't see the US and the UK as "separating," because I see them as ''already separate.'' They may look the same in many cases, but they're separate. This is borne out by the few, but significant, differences between them, such as how Bumblebee is turned into Goldbug. Clearly, there is room for differences of opinion on how individuals look at the canon, but the fact that there ARE these distinctions are part of why I oppose any attempt to force US stories ''into'' the UK continuity on this Wiki, which should essentially present the facts as they appear. (Incidentally, the way you describe the UK version in the actual article is fine with me)--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 03:34, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Seperating the UK and US comics would give legitimate space to discuss the various special features the UK comic had which had no counterpart in the US comic. Things like the letters pages answered by Transformer characters, fact files (which, in the early days weren't straight reprints of Transformers: The Universe), back up strips, competitions, humourous strips (Robo Capers, Matt and the Cat, Combat Colin - some of which had directly Transformer-related content). Sorry, can't sign this comment as I'm just a visitor.

==How to deal with UK issues with multiple stories==
I'm still trying to figure out how to deal with the issues in the UK (especially around the late-200s) that have more than one story contained therein. The current set-up probably won't continue to work for these issues. How's this for an option?

{|style="margin:0 auto;padding:0 auto" align=center id=toc
!align=center bgcolor=#6699CC|'''Marvel UK issues (lead stories):'''
|-
|| [[Kings of the Wild Frontier.|#284]] | [[Kings of the Wild Frontier.|#285]] | [[Deadly Obsession|#286]] | [[Deadly Obsession|#287]] | [[Deadly Obsession|#288]] | [[Deadly Obsession|#289]]
|}

{|style="margin:0 auto;padding:0 auto" align=center id=toc
!align=center bgcolor=#6699CC|'''Marvel UK issues (back-up stories):'''
|-
|| [[Assassins|#284]] | [[External Forces!|#285]] | [[The Lesser Evil!|#286]] | [[Inside Story!|#287]] | [[Front Line!|#288]] | [[End of the Road! (UK)|#289]]
|}
Note that the back-up to UK #289 is a different "End of the Road" than US #80 (Which is actually entitled "The End of the Road," which may or may not seem significant.)--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 18:48, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
: Looks good to me. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 22:18, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

: Is there a way to get all information on a particular issue onto an entry for that issue? For instance, issue 213 will have a "US Story" link that refers to the relevant US strip (which will be identical for 214-216), a "UK Story" section that gives a full account of the UK strip (in this instance, I think it's Megatron's return to Cybertron with Ravage), and a "Back-up Story" section that gives a brief account of the back-up strip. I realise that the back-up stories in most cases aren't TF-related, but they were an integral part of the UK comic experience. I'll try to put an example entry together this week and you can see what you think.

: Incidentally, I take the point about the UK and US continuities not being the same. I'm not at all hung up on "canon" and am much more interested in detailing the things as stories. I just wanted to say that #255-60 is where the two parallel continuities go in completely and irreconcilably different directions. At some point I'd also like to write something about how Furman used his knowledge of what was happening in the US stories to foreshadow later events - the story 'Prey' and the return to Cybertron (UK #97-104) is a classic example, featuring both Optimus Prime's "death" and Megatron's madness.

: Now that I think about it, the letters page was often used as a vehicle for explaining how the US and UK stories fitted together. They should be an excellent resource for this sort of thing. When I've got access to the original issues again, I'll see what comes up.--[[User:Tribimat|Tribimat]] 00:22, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

::Actually, my preference (other things being equal) would be to have the comics entries organized by issue number, but it was decided early on that it would be redundant to have separate pages for issues of the UK comic that were largely already duplicated on the US page for the similar story. (US stories tend to be 1-per-issue. This not often the case in the UK comic.) A compromise position was to make the pages story-specific, rather than issue-specific. This is working for now, but as I've already noted, appears as though it may be unwieldy as we look at UK issues in the future. I could do this issue-by-issue for the entire US series with no trouble at all, but I'm not arrogant enough to think that the US is the only, or even the "most correct," way of looking at it. I've argued fairly strongly for US comic integrity, but have tried to stop short of giving it "supremacy." It's just that the US comic is what I know. I know it fairly well. But I don't have the background to say much about the UK comic beyond what I know from the Internet.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 02:51, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

I've come across some issues of the UK comic that have two TF-related stories, but the "lead" story is just a reprint, while the "back-up" black-and-white story is new. (So far, I've only put links for #221-228 that fit this description) Under the rubric I proposed above, I've felt compelled to make the link in the main (i.e. "lead story") UK chart go to the reprinted story, while the new story is relegated to the "back-up" chart. This technically seems to work, but seems rather unsatisfying. Thoughts?--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 20:41, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

:I've decided that it would be simpler to only put 2nd stories in the bottom grid in the cases where one of the two TF stories contained has not already been printed in the UK previously. This means that some "back up" black and whites are actually in the top grid, but since these tend to be the stories featured on the front cover (since the "main" color story is a reprint), that makes more sense, I think.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 02:49, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

==The UK Annuals==
Hi. I was just wondering if there should be a space on this page for the UK Annuals and if so what format it should take? There were a couple of annual stories that linked heavily into the main UK strip so it seems like something that is needed for the sake of completion.

As each annual contains several stories and there are only a few of them I was going to suggest a seperate table for each annual with links to individual stories. Does anyone have any opinions/guidance on this?--[[User:Omnisvalidus|Omnisvalidus]] 18:46, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

:As nobody has comented on this I have added the annuals in. [[User:Omnisvalidus|Omnisvalidus]] 18:33, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

==Issue Numbers, Issue Titles==
This is a very useful page, what with having all the issues linked by number. Unfortunately, it's also a somewhat difficult page to find. Few if any of the individual issues link back to it. Instead, they link back to [[:Category:Marvel_US_issues]], which lo and behold doesn't list the issue numbers.

So if you're browsing along, and suddenly find yourself on, say, [[Trial by Fire!]], good luck finding the page about the next issue. Shouldn't the issue titles in the category also mention a number, and shouldn't there be a sequential listing that all the issues link back to?

OR OR OR, as Sipher just mentioned, there's a "Next issue/Previous issue" box floating around on a few issues' pages. That'd at least provide continuity if it got worked onto all the pages. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 07:14, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

=="Comic" or "Comics"? (also, upper or lower-case?)==
A recent revision was made to the Marvel G1 link so that it wouldn't have to "redirect" to the actual site. I agree with this, in principle. However, it highlights an inconsistency, as we now have links for [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Generation 1 (Marvel Comics)]] and [[Generation One (Dreamwave comic)|Generation 1 (Dreamwave comic)]]. One or both of these should be changed to resemble the other. Do we go with the singular "comic" or the plural "comics"? (Also, capitalization should be consistent. I'm assuming that lower-case is preferred. Indeed, I'd suggest "comic" as the preferable form, since the title of this very page uses the lower-case singular form.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 00:00, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
: "Marvel Comics" is the name of the company, so that is why it is capitalized. Dreamwave's company title does not have "Comics" in it, so "comics" is added so we know what kind medium the fiction is. The difference in capitalization between the two is INTENTIONAL. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:03, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
::I don't know if I buy that explanation... Or, rather, even if you are literally sure it's intentional and aren't rationalizing a mistake, I don't think that explanation suffices. There is no need to specify the media type in the parenthetical. The two should match in structure, being either "Dreamwave" and "Marvel Comics" or "Dreamwave comic" and "Marvel Comics comic" (which sounds stupid). I'd also accept dropping the "Comics" part of Marvel's name since it's not really needed, and also that's not their name anymore anyway. That would give us "Dreamwave"/"Marvel" or "Dreamwave comic"/"Marvel comic". --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 01:01, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
::::"rationalizing a mistake"? Dude, I go through pages and FIX the capitalization it so it's that way, for that reason. This is almost entirely in the fiction sections of all the articles, but specifying "comics" in some fashion after "Marvel" after "Generation 1" is crucial, as, well, you know, the cartoon was co-produced by Marvel. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:07, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::So, obviously its intentional. Still, I'd rather see something more consistent. It looks more and more like this particular convention exists only because it's never been noticed as being inconsistent before. By all means, point out "comic" in some fashion after "Marvel." But I still think that "comic" is more appropriate than "Comics", the fact (is it still a fact? Steve-o suggests it isn't anymore.) of Marvel's name being "Marvel Comics" notwithstanding.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 05:29, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Having [[Generation 1 (cartoon)]] and "Generation 1 (Marvel)" co-exists bothers me.
:::I vote for "Generation 1 (Marvel comic)" and "Generation 1 (Dreamwave comic)".
:::There's probably 20 different articles that can be called "Generation 1 (somedisambig)". Just for comics we've had Marvel, Blackthorne, Benchpress (well, not really) 2 different manga publishers, Dreamwave, and IDW. And that's not even all G1 TF comics (Devil's Due's version of the TFU has a non-generic name that avoids it being chronicled under the generic 'Generation 1' label.)
:::Are there ''any'' other articles of this sort where we ''don't'' put the media type in the disambig? I think... in any franchise with more than 1 type of media, the media-type should be ''standard'' as part of the disambig.
:::Disambigs don't ''have'' to provide contextual information, but I think in G1's case, with ''so many'' articles, it's a good idea. Additionally, it would make the G1 articles better fit with the disambiging format used by other franchises. (For the most part other franchises don't have to deal with multiple publishers of a single kind of media, so their sub-pages are ''always'' disambig'd by type of media.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:40, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
It really shouldn't matter that it's just "Marvel" now; we should only be concerned about the name in effect when the comics were actually being published. Unless we're retconning all instances of "Takara" into "TakaraTomy". [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 01:11, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
:Perhaps not, but I still prefer "Marvel comic" for the sake of consistency to "Dreamwave comic". "Marvel" is descriptive enough that everyone knows what's being talked about. It need not be precisely the name of the company.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 02:40, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

==Annual years and releases==

(I'm raising this here as there isn't a generic article for the annuals and it could affect all of them.)

It's my recollection that the annuals released 1985-1987 were always referenced as being the annual for the year of publication (e.g. issue #65, printed in 1986, has a caption referring to "this year's annual"), but from 1988 onwards the annuals are referred to as the next's years, even though the books themselves don't give specific dates (whereas other Marvel UK annuals for Action Force, Thundercats and Visionaries released in 1988 all explicitly say they're the 1989 annual). This has led to quite a bit of confusion over the years as to which annual is which. [[Transformers Annual 1986#Items of Note]] currently states:

''This was the first annual, published for Christmas 1985. Due to the 1985 print date in the cover it is frequently mistakenly referred to as the 1985 annual, however annuals are always printed at the end of the year before.''

Whilst this is the main practice, is there any evidence it specifically applied to Marvel UK in 1985-1987?

Also most of the annuals state they were released in December, but I recall the announcements and adverts for them tended to be in the summer. Further to this the annual released in 1987 is explicitly followed up in stories printed that autumn (issues 135-138) which would have been awkward if the annual wasn't yet on sale. [[User:Timrollpickering|Timrollpickering]] 21:48, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

:The annuals usually appeared in the shops in August or September, believe it or not, so the 1987 annual appeared before ''Grudge Match'' did, and only a few weeks after ''Fire on High'' (the story to which it concluded). What confuses the issue for a lot of people who were kids at the time is that traditionally they didn't get the annuals until Christmas, whilst the comics seemed to often assume that kids would rush out and get them the second they came out. As for which album came out in which year, going by the copyright date seems to be a fairly accurate way of doing it, as that refers to the year in which it was physically published.--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 23:07, 26 April 2009 (EDT)

::I did post something on this somewhere but it's gone astray. Looking through the comics from the time, the annuals (including other Marvel UK output) released in 1986 and 1987 are usually explicitly named as that year's annual. The 1988 release, however, is ambiguous with either "this year's" or "the [Transformers] annual". The 1989-1991 annuals were described with the following year's date.
::Within the annuals themselves only the 1991 release identifies itself in the copyright info as being the "1992" annual. It's notable that the 1988 release doesn't give a year when the contemporary Action Force, Thundercats and Visionaries annuals all identify themselves as the 1989 annual.
::The early Marvel UK practice appears to be in contrast to the general UK trend in children's annuals which is to use the following year, since they are targetted at the Christmand market (and it also gives leftover stock a longer shelf-life). [[User:Timrollpickering|Timrollpickering]] 11:20, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

==Somes changes to the UK section==

I adjusted the UK section with more accurate information on the comic's format changes, which were more complex than originally stated. Most notably, the comic returned to a fortnightly schedule from issue 309 onwards, which is also when they ditched the three-strip structure and returned to the 'classic' format of one Transformers story and one back-up strip. Since I still have almost the whole run of Transformers UK comics in fairly good condition (issues #24-#332), I might take a look at going through the UK comics and adding in any missing information. On the issue of how 'canon' the UK/USA intermingling of stories are, my assessment is that the combined UK/US run is the 'correct' one, given that the later Furman comics refer to events in the UK continuity (Deathbringer, Xaaron, the UK 'creation myth' which appeared many years before in the US etc), with a nod at the headache-inducing Goldbug-creation issue.--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 21:58, 26 April 2009 (EDT)

==(Marvel Comics) vs. (Marvel comic)==
I think this parenthetical should change to "(Marvel comic)". It's always confusing to me when I'm linking here, since we don't say "[[Armada (Dreamwave comic)|(DW Productions)]]" or "[[Armada (Panini comic)|(Panini Comics)]]". - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 23:32, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
:Why not just (Marvel)? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 23:52, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
::Unless you're suggesting a sitewide change, that would still have the inconsistency problem. '''Edit:''' And now that I've actually ''read'' all that discussion I just moved from [[Talk:List of Generation 1 comics|Talk:Generation 1 (comic)]]... it looks like everybody but Walky who put in a vote was agreeing on "(Marvel comic)", with some pretty firm reasoning. So based on that, I'm going to go ahead and move the article. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 00:13, 29 June 2009 (EDT)
:::Again, why two words when one will do? What other "The Transformers" by Marvel are we distinguishing it from? The same goes for Dreamwave and anyone else. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 01:48, 29 June 2009 (EDT)
:::To clarify... "Dreamwave comic" is meant to distinguish it from "Panini comic" or whatever other ''Armada'' comics exist. But in that context, the "comic" becomes unnecessary and should be dropped completely. The ONLY viable argument for keeping it is that Dreamwave also did the mini-comics that came with the toys, but a (mini-comic) disambig should be enough to distinguish between the two.
:::The purposes of a diambig is to allow the co-existence of similarly-named pages, and to allow the reader to figure out which one they're looking for -- not to serve as a descriptor of the page's contents. I say we kill the "comic", across the board. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 01:56, 29 June 2009 (EDT)
::::I see your logic, and the only counterpoint I can think of is that we ''have'' made concessions in our parentheticals for the sake of consistency within a small group. For instance, "Nightstick (Cyclonus)" used to be "Nightstick (Decepticon)", but part of [[Talk:Nightstick_(Cyclonus)#Move|the argument for moving it]] was that it didn't "fit" with [[Nightstick (Artfire)]] and [[Nightstick (Ricochet)]]. Likewise, the ''Shattered Glass'' pages used to be a hodgepodge of "(Shattered Glass)" and "(Timelines)" parentheticals, but they've since all been moved to the former for group-consistency, despite the valid logic that had made them different as individuals. And in this case, as Derik pointed out above, the disparity between [[The Transformers (cartoon)]] and "The Transformers (Marvel)" is kind of jarring. If we use the media in one, it seems fitting to use it in all. I admit that this is a judgement-call area, and I'm by no means steadfastly defending it. But if forced to choose between one or the other, I prefer keeping the media in. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 02:10, 29 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::You know, we actually could move it to The Transformers (comic), since there's only one comic by that name.
:::::But regardless, it should be either The Transformers (Marvel) or The Transformers (comic). It makes sense just fine to me to first disambiguate by medium, then switch to by company only if a medium has more than one same-named series by more than one company. But using both medium ''and'' company in cases where either by itself would be sufficient is redundant and makes more work for editors.
:::::Alternatively we could think about switching to differentiating always by company if we really want to keep things consistent, since that seems like it would also produce only one word parentheticals most of the time, but I just don't see having both "cartoon" and "Marvel" as a problem really. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 07:23, 29 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::''You know, we actually could move it to The Transformers (comic), since there's only one comic by that name.''
::::::That's so obvious, it never even occurred to me. It should absolutely be "The Transformers (comic)". Anyone disagree?
::::::- [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 12:57, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::::[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:G1_Vol.3_Issue0_1.jpg] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:11, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::::The "Generation One" subtitle pretty handily wipes away that problem! -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 13:29, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::[[The Transformers (Madman)]]. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 01:17, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::::::Ah, thank you. That actually brings up a good point: Nowhere in that article does it actually SAY it's a comic book. It even says "Cartoon continuity" (which is of course correct, but it still obscures the fact). It's not hard to intuit that it's printed material, but we should really be clearer than that. If we kept up the trend of including media-type in the parenthetical, then it wouldn't be a problem. But really, that isn't the parenthetical's job. What we need is maybe a standard addition to the infobox. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 01:31, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
:As I'm going through *all* the Marvel comics, trying to clean them up, I'd appreciate it if the Jackass who moved the article could spend a bit of time fixing the millions of links too? Or should we hold off until there's another completely pointless page move? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 08:47, 11 July 2009 (EDT)
::You DO realize we have a bot that's made just for fixing exactly this sort of thing, right? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 09:11, 11 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Requests for moves can be put up at [[User:Deceptitran/Requests]]. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 09:18, 11 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Well if I was the one moving pages for no apparent reason, the first thing I'd do is set the bot to fix the links. I can only assume that happened here...
:::...except it seems to have changed only the links to ''The Transformers'' (US) on each page. Most ''The Transformers'' (UK) links still point to "Generation 1 (Marvel Comics)" or "The Transformers (Marvel Comics)", either with or without the #Marvel UK rider. The whole thing's a clusterfuck right now and I was looking forward to basking in the gentle glow of victory, having uploaded the last of the Marvel UK covers last night. I just don't see the point of creating all the extra work for ourselves because someone is "confused" by the difference between (Marvel Comics) and (Marvel comic). --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 09:28, 11 July 2009 (EDT)

==Ultimate Transformers==
Since Transformers exist within the Mainstream Marvel continuity, doesn't that mean that Transformers should exist within the Ultimate Marvel continuity as well?[[Special:Contributions/71.255.173.5|71.255.173.5]] 22:59, 25 September 2011 (EDT)

::Ultimate continuity was created after the ''Trasformers'' right was passed to other publishers by Marvel. Also, IIRC, ''Transformers'' was originally in Earth-616 but it last extremely short before getting retconned into Earth-Transformers. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 23:17, 25 September 2011 (EDT)

:Officially(?) the Transformers comic takes place on [[Earth-91274]] rather than Earth-616, so it's not a part of the mainstream Marvel continuity. Assuming that doesn't rule out Transformers in the Ultimate continuity, IDW having the license probably does! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:14, 25 September 2011 (EDT)

:Well, the [[New Avengers/The Transformers]] cross-over takes place within Earth-616.[[Special:Contributions/71.255.165.156|71.255.165.156]] 17:57, 29 September 2011 (EDT)