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		<title>GEEWUN</title>
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;GEEWUN&#039;&#039;&#039; is a term used by some guy to poke fun at the building blocks of the Transformers brand (Generation 1). It all started when a little kid who liked the live action movies had his butt hurt by some one who preferred robots over the new insectiod Transsformers. He cried, broke all of his new toys and said some dumb stuff on the internet about how he now hates Transformers so bad that he was going to buy so many Transformers Animated DVDs that they would make a fourth season (and thus dooming the world to subpar art and storyline). Unfortunately his Mom had noticed him smashing the toys she just bought him and shut off his internet...he has not been heard from since. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
on forums he had no name....but his name was Robert....I mean Mark Bristow (Aka Body Pillow)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>GEEWUN</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;71.60.35.24: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;GEEWUN&#039;&#039;&#039; is a term used by some guy to poke fun at the building blocks of the Transformers brand (Generation 1). It all started when a little kid who liked the live action movies had his butt hurt by some one who preferred robots over the new insectiod Transsformers. He cried, broke all of his new toys and said some dumb stuff on the internet about how he now hates Transformers so bad that he was going to buy so many Transformers Animated DVDs that they would make a fourth season (and thus dooming the world to subpar art ans storyline). Unfortunately his Mom had noticed him smashing the toys she just bought him and shut off his internet...he has not been heard from since. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
on forums he had no name....but his name was Robert....I mean Mark Bristow (Aka Body Pillow)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>GEEWUN</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;71.60.35.24: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;GEEWUN&#039;&#039;&#039; is a snarky [[fandom|fan]] term for people who seem to have knee-jerk negative reactions to, and continuing difficulty in tolerating any of the post-[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] (aka &amp;quot;G1&amp;quot;) incarnations of the [[Transformers brand|Transformers property]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The earliest recorded use of the term &amp;quot;Geewun&amp;quot; (spelled as a normal word, not in all caps) originated with a [http://www.tfarchive.com TFArchive.com] user named Cliffjumper, who first used it in January of 2003.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tfarchive.com/community/showthread.php?t=13192 First known usage of the term on the TFArchive boards on January 2003]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Since he has a tendency of coming up with mocking puns based on existing names and fandom terms, it&#039;s possible that he did indeed coin the term. The term didn&#039;t see widespread use until 2004, when it was apparently spread to other parts of the fandom (including [[alt.toys.transformers]]) by [[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]], himself a regular member of TF Archive. [[Mark Bristow]] (aka &amp;quot;Bodycount&amp;quot;) presumably also helped popularize the term.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While the phenomenon of placing Generation 1 above everything else is [[Trukk not munky|nothing new]], when the [[Transformers (2007)|2007 live-action movie]] was in production, the [[fandom]] experienced an ongoing influx of sexy pissed off genius maniacs who seemed to regard &#039;&#039;[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]&#039;&#039; not as a still-evolving cultural institution and [[To sell toys|business property]], but as a sacred relic of their halcyon, Reagan-era childhoods. These bitter young people made their voices heard by preemptively denouncing the movie... not because it would [[Ruined FOREVER|ruin Transformers forever]], but because it would [[Kiss Players (franchise)|&amp;quot;rape their childhoods&amp;quot;]] by deviating from their rose-colored—and often incorrect—memories of the first two seasons of the original cartoon. The singularly unfortunate phrase &amp;quot;[so-and-so] RAPED MY CHILDHOOD!!!!!&amp;quot; quickly became one of the more memorable used by this group, and used in criticism by this group&#039;s detractors, in which it seems to have taken on a life of its own and overtaken the original usage... so it goes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For some reason, many GEEWUNNERS were particularly incensed by the fact that [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] (the truck guy, not the tape guy) had flames painted on him, a detail that [[Michael Bay]] claims to have received death threats over.  It probably would have been okay if the flames were [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Generation 2|burning down some forests]], though.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The term is &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; intended as a catch-all nickname for &#039;&#039;anybody&#039;&#039; who likes Generation 1, only those who refuse to accept anything other than it (or at least how &#039;&#039;they&#039;&#039; remember it, correctly or not). It is, alas, often used in this way by those who do &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; like Generation 1 and are seeking to insult those who do. Additionally, &amp;quot;Geewunners&amp;quot; themselves sometimes trot the term around as evidence of &amp;quot;persecution&amp;quot;, in the process misconstruing the term to make it appear worse (i.e., claiming that people that use the term hate Generation 1 and everyone who likes it).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[True fan]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Trukk not munky]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Footnotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://boards.transformersmovie.com/forumdisplay.php?f=14 Example of a breeding ground for GEEWUNNERS]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.i-mockery.com/weeklies/weekly.php?type=movies&amp;amp;amp;id=14 Allegedly humorous review of the movie, written by a GEEWUNNER]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Fan terminology]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Fandom]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>GEEWUN</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;71.60.35.24: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;GEEWUN&#039;&#039;&#039; is a snarky [[fandom|fan]] term for people who seem to have knee-jerk negative reactions to, and continuing difficulty in tolerating any of the post-[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] (aka &amp;quot;G1&amp;quot;) incarnations of the [[Transformers brand|Transformers property]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The earliest recorded use of the term &amp;quot;Geewun&amp;quot; (spelled as a normal word, not in all caps) originated with a [http://www.tfarchive.com TFArchive.com] user named Cliffjumper, who first used it in January of 2003.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tfarchive.com/community/showthread.php?t=13192 First known usage of the term on the TFArchive boards on January 2003]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Since he has a tendency of coming up with mocking puns based on existing names and fandom terms, it&#039;s possible that he did indeed coin the term. The term didn&#039;t see widespread use until 2004, when it was apparently spread to other parts of the fandom (including [[alt.toys.transformers]]) by [[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]], himself a regular member of TF Archive. [[Mark Bristow]] (aka &amp;quot;Bodycount&amp;quot;) presumably also helped popularize the term.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While the phenomenon of placing Generation 1 above everything else is [[Trukk not munky|nothing new]], when the [[Transformers (2007)|2007 live-action movie]] was in production, the [[fandom]] experienced an ongoing influx of mindlessly angry &amp;quot;Generation Y&amp;quot; members who seemed to regard &#039;&#039;[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]&#039;&#039; not as a still-evolving cultural institution and [[To sell toys|business property]], but as a sacred relic of their halcyon, Reagan-era childhoods. These bitter young people made their voices heard by preemptively denouncing the movie... not because it would [[Ruined FOREVER|ruin Transformers forever]], but because it would [[Kiss Players (franchise)|&amp;quot;rape their childhoods&amp;quot;]] by deviating from their rose-colored—and often incorrect—memories of the first two seasons of the original cartoon. The singularly unfortunate phrase &amp;quot;[so-and-so] RAPED MY CHILDHOOD!!!!!&amp;quot; quickly became one of the more memorable used by this group, and used in criticism by this group&#039;s detractors, in which it seems to have taken on a life of its own and overtaken the original usage... so it goes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For some reason, many GEEWUNNERS were particularly incensed by the fact that [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] (the truck guy, not the tape guy) had flames painted on him, a detail that [[Michael Bay]] claims to have received death threats over.  It probably would have been okay if the flames were [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Generation 2|burning down some forests]], though.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The term is &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; intended as a catch-all nickname for &#039;&#039;anybody&#039;&#039; who likes Generation 1, only those who refuse to accept anything other than it (or at least how &#039;&#039;they&#039;&#039; remember it, correctly or not). It is, alas, often used in this way by those who do &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; like Generation 1 and are seeking to insult those who do. Additionally, &amp;quot;Geewunners&amp;quot; themselves sometimes trot the term around as evidence of &amp;quot;persecution&amp;quot;, in the process misconstruing the term to make it appear worse (i.e., claiming that people that use the term hate Generation 1 and everyone who likes it).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[True fan]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Trukk not munky]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Footnotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://boards.transformersmovie.com/forumdisplay.php?f=14 Example of a breeding ground for GEEWUNNERS]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.i-mockery.com/weeklies/weekly.php?type=movies&amp;amp;amp;id=14 Allegedly humorous review of the movie, written by a GEEWUNNER]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Fan terminology]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Fandom]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Decepticon Mini-Cassette</title>
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&lt;div&gt;{{disambig2|the subgroup sometimes referred to as Recordicons|the comic strip about them|Recordicons}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{stub|rest of the fiction, up-top links and maybe short descriptions, toy section needs fleshing out}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{factions|decepticon|sgDecepticon|minicon}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;The Decepticon Mini-Cassettes are a [[subgroup]] of [[Decepticon]]s (and in [[Ravage (G1)|a single case]], a [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]]) from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Madman comic Soundwave ejects tapes.jpg|right|400px|thumb|Eject! Operation: Illustration.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The &#039;&#039;&#039;Decepticon Mini-Cassettes&#039;&#039;&#039; (also known as &#039;&#039;&#039;Spy Cassettes&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Recordicons&#039;&#039;&#039;) are [[Decepticon]]s (and in one case, a [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]]) who, on [[Earth]], transform into analog [[Mini-Cassette|audio cassettes]]. They can fit into [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]&#039;s chest compartment, though their apparent relationship to Soundwave varies depending on continuity.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many of these troops have communication or espionage roles. Recycling of body designs is common among them as well.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|In the days of Megatron, Decepticons developed the art of espionage using cassette technology.|[[Teletraan II]]|[[Secret Files of Teletraan II]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Japanese name:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Cassettron&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===Marvel comics===&lt;br /&gt;
For the most part, the Decepticon Mini-Cassettes did not appear to have a particularly special or unique relationship with Soundwave. Soundwave occasionally carried Laserbeak within his chest compartment, releasing him for surprise attacks.  {{storylink|Warrior School!}}.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
More often, the Mini-Cassette troops used their small alternate modes for stealth, disguise and transportation by other characters. Rumble and Frenzy frequently hitched rides in the cockpit of the Decepticon jets, for example.  {{storylink|DIS-Integrated Circuits!}} Ravage used his cassette form on several occasions to spy on humans.  {{storylink|Power Play!}} Three of the cassette troops were taken out of play by Omega Supreme  {{storylink|Command Performances!}} and remained inoperative for quite some time, while Ravage was dropped into a mine shaft by the Autobot [[Skids (G1)|Skids]],  {{storylink|Showdown!}} taking him out of play for even longer. Only Laserbeak remained operative, acting as a sort of totem of Decepticon leadership.  {{storylink|Command Performances!}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Ratbat assumed a cassette form upon traveling to Earth, and used this disguise to monitor his human accomplices.  {{storylink|Buster Witwicky and the Car Wash of Doom}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Generation 1 cartoon====&lt;br /&gt;
The Mini-Cassettes acted as a sort of special-missions force, under the command of their host Soundwave. Soundwave could store numerous cassettes within his chest, at times ejecting as many as four at once.  {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}} {{storylink|Call of the Primitives}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Laserbeak was frequently sent to spy on the [[Autobot]]s at [[Ark (G1)|Autobot Headquarters]], once using his cassette form to sneak in. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer}} Ravage likewise used his cassette mode to infiltrate [[Teletraan I (G1)|Teletraan I]] and steal information about Earth&#039;s resources.  {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 2}} Rumble was used more often to destroy stuff, though all three frequently engaged in battle.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The less-seen Buzzsaw and Frenzy also appeared on occasion, usually acting in conjunction with Laserbeak and Rumble, respectively.  {{storylink|Countdown to Extinction (episode)|Countdown to Extinction}}  {{storylink|Atlantis, Arise!}}  {{storylink|The Immobilizer}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Years later, Ratbat joined the cassette forces; like Laserbeak, he specialized in spy work and reconnaissance, particularly in tight quarters inaccessible to Laserbeak.  {{storylink|Secret Files of Teletraan II}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some time after that, Overkill and Slugfest also joined Soundwave&#039;s troops.  {{storylink|Call of the Primitives}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Madman &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; comic====&lt;br /&gt;
{{charstubfiction}}&lt;br /&gt;
In the year 2001, Soundwave unleashed his army of new Mini-Cassettes to steal the Autobot [[Matrix of Leadership]] from a secure bunker at the construction site of [[Autobot City]] on Earth.  {{storylink|The Transformers (Madman)|The Transformers}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Japanese cartoon continuity====&lt;br /&gt;
=====&#039;&#039;Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers&#039;&#039; comic=====&lt;br /&gt;
{{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 2|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #2}} {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 7|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #7}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{charstubfiction}}&lt;br /&gt;
=====&#039;&#039;Scramble City&#039;&#039; cartoon=====&lt;br /&gt;
{{storylink|Scramble City (episode)|Scramble City}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{charstubfiction}}&lt;br /&gt;
=====&#039;&#039;The Headmasters&#039;&#039; cartoon=====&lt;br /&gt;
{{storylink|The Mystery of Planet Master}} {{storylink|Birth of the Fantastic Double Prime}}{{storylink|The Great Cassette Operation}} {{storylink|Terror! The Six Shadows}}{{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 1}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{storylink|The Dormant Volcano Mysteriously Erupts}} {{storylink|Explosion on Mars!! MegaZarak Appears}} {{storylink|Return of the Immortal Emperor}}{{storylink|SOS from Planet Sandra}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{storylink|Battle for Defense of the False Planet}}{{storylink|Head Formation of Friendship}}{{storylink|The Zarak Shield Turns the Tide}}{{storylink|Operation: Destroy the Decepticons}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{charstubfiction}}&lt;br /&gt;
=====&#039;&#039;The Headmasters&#039;&#039; comic=====&lt;br /&gt;
{{storylink|The Headmasters issue 8|The Headmasters #8}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{charstubfiction}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Dreamwave comics continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
The origin of the Mini-Cassettes as a whole is unknown. Warriors like Laserbeak and Ravage were seen working with Soundwave in their standard capacity since the beginning of the war.  {{storylink|The War Within}} The sole exception is Ratbat, who was once a high-ranking Decepticon, and the leader of his own independent faction during the Dark Ages.  {{storylink|War Within: The Dark Ages}} At an unknown point in history, Ratbat was apparently converted into a Mini-Cassette as punishment for some unknown offense.  {{storylink|Countdown to Extinction (issue)|Countdown to Extinction}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Besides Ratbat, the Mini-Cassettes were sent into stasis lock with Soundwave and the rest of the &#039;&#039;[[Nemesis (G1)|Nemesis]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; crew for four million years on the planet Earth. They reawakened in 1984 to battle [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and the crew of the &#039;&#039;[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]&#039;&#039;.  {{storylink|Prime Directive}} When the Transformers eventually returned to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], the Mini-Cassettes went with Soundwave under the new command of [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. After [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] made a proposal to strike out on their own, however, they turned against Shockwave. Part of the deal was Starscream reuniting Soundwave with Ratbat, whom he had apparently already used as a Mini-Cassette in the past. The Mini-Cassettes returned to Earth with Soundwave and the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]]s.  {{storylink|War and Peace}} Megatron eventually returned, reclaiming leadership from Starscream, with the help of Soundwave and the Mini-Cassettes.  {{storylink|The Route of All Evil}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{note|After returning to Earth, only Rumble and Frenzy made express appearances. Ravage, Laserbeak, Buzzsaw and Ratbat were presumably present inside Soundwave.}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===IDW comics continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], and [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]] worked with [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] from the beginning as his minions.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] and [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] were originally energon miners like [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]. They were the first pre-Decepticons to hitch their wagons to the rising star of Megatron. Megatron had them reformatted into the Cybertronian equivalent of mini-cassettes in order to participate in a surprise attack on the [[Senate]]. They weren&#039;t entirely happy about it, but agreed out of fear and loyalty to Megatron. [[Squawkbox]] also participated in that operation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{note|It is unclear if Squawkbox was already a minion of Soundwave or if he was also reformatted for that purpose.}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Ratbat (G1)|Senator Ratbat]] was Soundwave&#039;s boss up until the Decepticon uprising, at which point, Soundwave slagged him but preserved his spark in a Cybertronian mini-cassette.  {{storylink|Megatron Origin}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Much later, Squawkbox served on the same space station as [[Sixshot]].  {{storylink|Spotlight: Sixshot}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Ravage and Laserbeak traveled with Soundwave to Earth while keeping an eye on [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]]. Buzzsaw, Frenzy, and Rumble were not seen during this period, but the possibility that Soundwave was keeping one or more of them in reserve cannot be ruled out. (You never &#039;&#039;really&#039;&#039; know who he has hidden in there.) It was at this time that Soundwave and at least Ravage and Laserbeak picked up [[1984]]-era Earth [[alternate mode]]s.  {{storylink|Spotlight: Soundwave}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Ratbat spent some time as a regular member of Earth&#039;s [[Infiltration protocol|infiltration unit]] doing reconnaissance work.  {{storylink|Devastation issue 1}} He had a non-mini-cassete alternate mode.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Laserbeak, Ravage, Frenzy, Rumble, and Ratbat all participated in  Megatron&#039;s full-scale invasion of Earth as Soundwave&#039;s mini-cassette minions.  {{storylink|All Hail Megatron}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Hearts of Steel&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
Soundwave, Ravage, Squawkbox, and Rumble and/or Frenzy were among the Decepticons who were awakened in eighteenth century Earth and took on alternate modes from that era.  {{storylink|Hearts of Steel}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It was not revealed what those alternate modes were, but textual notes in Squawkbox&#039;s concept art included in the trade paperback indicate that his &amp;quot;upper body transforms into a mechanical gorilla&amp;quot; and his &amp;quot;lower part transforms into mechanical eagle.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Shattered Glass===&lt;br /&gt;
{{charstubfiction}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{storylink|Shattered Glass (issue)|Shattered Glass}} {{storylink|Dungeons &amp;amp; Dinobots}} {{storylink|Do Over}} {{storylink|Eye in the Sky}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Rumble mold===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Enemy]], whose only transformable toy was permanently attached to a radio bigger than he was.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Laserbeak mold===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:LaserbeakG1toy.JPG|right|200px|thumb|1984 cassette Laserbeak]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Garboil]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sundor]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Ravage mold===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ravage (G1)/toys|Ravage]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Howlback]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Glit]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Universe Ravage mold===&lt;br /&gt;
: This is an entirely new-mold version of the character, still transforming from jaguar to a cassette compatible with G1 Soundwave / Blaster.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]&#039;&#039; [[Ravage (G1)/toys|Ravage]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Shattered Glass&amp;quot; [[Ravage (SG)|Ravage]] &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
===Other molds===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Beastbox (G1)|Beastbox]] and [[Squawktalk]], who can combine to form [[Squawkbox]].&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Flip Sides (G1)|Flip Sides]], [[Redeco|redecoed]] from the [[Rewind]] mold.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Overkill (G1)|Overkill]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Slugfest (G1)|Slugfest]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
===Fiction only===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[:Image:Generic cassettes.jpg|Many]] [[Palette swap|other]] [[generic]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Autoscout]] {{storylink|A Prime Problem}}&lt;br /&gt;
*[[:Image:Ravage clones gi joe vol 2.jpg|Ravage clones]] {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;[[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]&amp;quot; [[Laserbeak (SG)|Laserbeak]] {{storylink|Shattered Expectations}} {{storylink|Shattered Glass (issue)|Shattered Glass}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Shattered Glass&amp;quot; [[Buzzsaw (SG)|Buzzsaw]] {{storylink|Shattered Glass (issue)|Shattered Glass}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Shattered Glass&amp;quot; [[Frenzy (SG)|Frenzy]]  {{storylink|Shattered Glass (issue)|Shattered Glass}} {{storylink|Eye in the Sky}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Shattered Glass&amp;quot; [[Ratbat (SG)|Ratbat]] {{storylink|Hasbro Transformers Collectors&#039; Club issue 28}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Shattered Glass&amp;quot; [[Rumble (SG)|Rumble]] {{storylink|Shattered Glass (issue)|Shattered Glass}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Shattered Glass&amp;quot; [[Overkill (SG)|Overkill]] {{storylink|Do Over}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Shattered Glass&amp;quot; [[Slugfest (SG)|Slugfest]] {{storylink|Dungeons &amp;amp; Dinobots}}  {{storylink|Do Over}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DiamondStickerbookRecordicons.jpg|thumb|200px]]&lt;br /&gt;
*This sub-group was called &#039;&#039;&#039;Decepticon Cassettes&#039;&#039;&#039; in the 1984 toy [[catalog]], but &#039;&#039;&#039;Decepticon Mini-Cassettes&#039;&#039;&#039; in all subsequent catalogs.&lt;br /&gt;
*The term &amp;quot;Spy Cassettes&amp;quot; was used in advertisements featured in the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)#Overview 2|Marvel UK comics]] and an organizational chart in the [[Transformers Annual 1987]], while &amp;quot;Recordicon&amp;quot; was used in a 1986 [[Diamond]] &#039;&#039;Transformers: The Movie&#039;&#039; stickerbook to describe Laserbeak.  &amp;quot;Recordicon&amp;quot; has seen recent use in the &#039;&#039;Shattered Glass&#039;&#039; profiles for Ravage and Ratbat.  &lt;br /&gt;
*The term &amp;quot;Cassetticon&amp;quot; is an unofficial term that crops up amongst the fanbase.&lt;br /&gt;
*The San Diego Comic-Con 2009 reissue of Soundwave refers to the cassettes as &amp;quot;Deployer&amp;quot; figures. The term [[Deployer]] had previously been used for the small animal-to-weapon figures from the Beast Machines toy line.&lt;br /&gt;
*In &amp;quot;[[The Agenda (Part 2)|The Agenda]]&amp;quot;, Ravage still has his cassette alternate mode, despite undergoing a complete rebuilding.  He fits into a compartment on his [[Transwarp cruiser|ship]].&lt;br /&gt;
*In addition to being retconned as deployers, Soundwave&#039;s [[Transformers Hall of Fame]] bio also presented Ravage, Laserbeak and all of Soundwave&#039;s other partners as [[Mini-Cons]].  That&#039;ll rattle a few cages.  [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/movie-news/TRANSFORMERS-HALL-OF-FAME-Nominee-1.cfm]&lt;br /&gt;
*The Hall of Fame bio also revealed that Laserbeak and Ravage are Soundwave&#039;s favorite partners. (It&#039;s okay, [[Wingthing (G1)|Wingthing]], we still love you).&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Decepticon subgroups]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Mini-Cassettes| Decepticon]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Mindset_(G2)&amp;diff=513343</id>
		<title>Mindset (G2)</title>
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		<updated>2010-10-27T00:19:14Z</updated>

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:&#039;&#039;Mindset is a second generation [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian Empire]] [[Decepticon]] from the [[Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Mindsetrobot.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Shoot it, like some vast predatory bird!]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Mindset&#039;&#039;&#039; never does anything by halves. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A commander of some unspecified rank within the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian Empire]], Mindset considers organic life to be &amp;quot;puddles of organic matter&amp;quot; incapable of creative thought. He likes to &amp;quot;tricurse&amp;quot; things and may be a [[Xal]] worshipper. Oh, and he&#039;s connected to the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticon]] [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]] through [[Reproduction|budding]]. He gets eaten.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===Marvel Comics continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
====&#039;&#039;Generation 2&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mindsettransform.jpg|left|300px|thumb|Got to — SPOOM!]]&lt;br /&gt;
A commander in charge of pacifying (i.e., obliterating) the planet [[Karn]] to draw the Autobots and Decepticons out of hiding, Mindset proceeded with his mission in a businesslike fashion, though he didn&#039;t understand why the plan would work.  How could anyone attach any meaning or value to these &amp;quot;puddles of organic matter&amp;quot;?  Neither did he understand why the [[Swarm (G2)|Swarm]] failed to fall before his troops&#039; firepower.  He and his [[stormtrooper (Cybertronian)|stormtroopers]] were devoured, despite his protests, and his destruction mystically gave Onslaught, light years away, sharp pains.  {{storylink|Swarm (issue)|Swarm}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;TransTech&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
Mindset was one of the many &amp;quot;offworlder&amp;quot; beings attending [[Gutcruncher (G1)|Gutcruncher]]&#039;s meeting of the numerous gangs that made up [[Axiom Nexus]]&#039;s underworld.  {{storylink|Gone Too Far}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[== NO BODY KNOWS IF HE IS AN AUTOBOT OR DECEPTICON!!!! ==]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers (2010)===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TF2010toy-Mindset.jpg|thumb|300px|Yeah, um, Mindset was blue.  Sure!  Uhh...]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Mindset&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 2010?)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Part of the third wave of the [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|2010 &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; toyline]], Mindset is a [[retool]] of [[Hailstorm (TF 2010)|Hailstorm]], who was designed as [[homage]] to Mindset to begin with.  He has a different headsculpt from Hailstorm and transforms from a robot with massive rocket launchers on his shoulders into a light blue [[Wikipedia:Multiple rocket launcher|multiple rocket launcher]].  As part of the &amp;quot;[[Reveal the Shield]]&amp;quot; promotion, Mindset features a [[Rub Sign]].  Early reports indicate that his sticker shows the shield of the [[Autobots]].&lt;br /&gt;
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{{comingsoontoy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
* Mindset&#039;s relationship with Onslaught is curious. Onslaught is implicitly presented as Mindset&#039;s ancestor through budding, but Onslaught was likely built on Earth in 1986.  (The Combaticons appeared in the US comics without explicit explanation, but it&#039;s implied that they were produced similarly to the other combiner teams. The UK comics elaborate further, claiming the designs for all the [[Combiner|Scramble City]]-type combiners came from [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]]&#039;s mind.) Considering this, it seems impossible for Mindset to have been created from Onslaught millions of years ago.  Oops.&lt;br /&gt;
* Then again, in the US comics it was never stated openly or alluded to that the Combaticons were created the same way (&#039;stealing&#039; the Matrix&#039;s power through the cerebro-shell implanted in Optimus Prime) as the Stunticons. It is entirely possible that they came through the Space Bridge as reinforcements. Further confirming this is that Onslaught is a tactical genius with a lot of battlefield experience, something that he couldn&#039;t have gained magically in a matter of days after his creation on Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/jhiaxus/uscomics/mindset.htm Mindset on the Obscure Transformers Website]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Decepticons]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Generation 2 characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Transformers 2010 toyline characters]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Bombshock_(PCC)&amp;diff=501418</id>
		<title>Bombshock (PCC)</title>
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		<updated>2010-09-23T01:18:26Z</updated>

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{{faction|decepticon}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{disambig3|Bombshock}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Bombshock is a [[Decepticon]] [[Commander (PCC)|Commander]] from &#039;&#039;[[Power Core Combiners]]&#039;&#039;.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Once a member of an elite Cybertronian military unit, &#039;&#039;&#039;Bombshock&#039;&#039;&#039; committed an act of betrayal that attracted the attention of the Decepticons.  He&#039;s since been rewarded with the rank of Power Core Commander, and now a team of unstoppable [[Combaticon (PCC)|Combaticon]] drones is at his fingertips.  &lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PCCtoy-BombshockCombaticons.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Thought I was gonna be [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]], dincha?]]&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Power Core Combiners&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Commander Bombshock with Combaticons&#039;&#039;&#039; (Power Core Combiners 5-pack, 2010)&lt;br /&gt;
: Part of the first wave of &#039;&#039;Power Core Combiners&#039;&#039; 5-pack figures, Bombshock is a Scout-sized military truck who transforms into a robot.  He can also swap heads and transform into a torso for his four Combaticon drones, or serve as a torso for any other Commander figure&#039;s Power Core drones.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Unfortunately, Bombshock and his drones have several design flaws and [[quality control]] issues. Bombshock suffers from the problem of the spring-loaded, automorphing drones being unable to provide solid, stable feet to balance the combined mode. Meanwhile, the folded-out hands on the arm drones do not lock into place, and thus &amp;quot;flop around&amp;quot; during play. In general the drones have a tendency to detach from Bombshock when they are moved.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: This mold was used to make [[Steelshot]].&lt;br /&gt;
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::*&#039;&#039;[http://tfu.info/2010/Decepticon/Bombshock/bombshock.htm More information on Bombshock at TFU.info]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
* Bombshock&#039;s bio states that he was once a &amp;quot;member of an elite unit in the Cybertronian military.&amp;quot;  Whether this was the [[Elite Guard]] or the [[Wreckers]] or some other elite military group is unknown. It might even be a reference to the [[Micromaster]] [[Military Patrol]], led by [[Bombshock (G1)|Generation 1 Bombshock]]!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Combaticons]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Multi-component Transformers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Power Core Combiners characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Toy-only characters]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Prime_(rank)&amp;diff=497939</id>
		<title>Prime (rank)</title>
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		<updated>2010-09-09T06:14:06Z</updated>

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{{quote|We are Primus. We are Prima. We are Prime Nova. We are Sentinel Prime. We are Optimus Prime.}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Prime&#039;&#039;&#039; is a rank of highest distinction in many [[Transformers]] continuities. Typically, it is used as the identification for the leader of the [[Autobot]]s, something that is bestowed only on those that carry the [[Matrix of Leadership]] within them. It is [[Retcon|retroactively]] derived from [[Primus]], the creator of the Transformers (in all unimportant continuities). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Japanese equivalent:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Convoy]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===Marvel Comic continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
The idea of Prime being a title/rank has its first, fullest expression here. A direct lineage of Creation Matrix bearers is established, each taking on a derivation of the name of their god Primus. They are [[Prima]], [[Prime Nova]], [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]], [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], and [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{note|A later [[Simon Furman]] story drawing on this lineage he himself created added [[Primon]] to the beginning of this list. Of note is that the name Prime has no real necessary relation to Autobot leadership here. Optimus Prime becomes a Prime long before he becomes the overall Autobot Commander. Rather, Prime is a religious title (as the Creation Matrix is a religious artifact: a relic of their god). The closest human analogue to a Prime might be the Pope. }}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cartoon continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Idw-tfa}}&lt;br /&gt;
The evidence for &amp;quot;Prime&amp;quot; being a rank here is weaker than elsewhere, but the case can still be made. Though many Matrix-Bearers are seen, and all are by definition Autobot Leaders, only four are ever named; 2 Primes, 2 not: [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]], Optimus Prime, [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], and Rodimus Prime. Without knowing any other names it is hard to make a concrete case here for &amp;quot;Prime&amp;quot; being a title given only to Matrix-Bearers. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is of note though that if it were, then &amp;quot;Prime&amp;quot; in this continuity would be a military/political title (since it is the &amp;quot;Matrix of Leadership&amp;quot;), rather than the religious title of the Marvel Comics.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Prime&amp;quot; is a title/rank similar in use to Marvel Comics. There is a nearly complete linage of Matrix of Leadership bearers taking the rank. They are: [[Primon]], [[Prima]], [[Prime Nova]], [[Guardian Prime]], [[Zeta Prime]], [[Sentinel Prime (G1)#Generation 1 cartoon|Sentinel Prime]], [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]], [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], and [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]]. {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac Volume 2}}&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|Not all Convoys are Primes (and vice-versa). If you can lead [[Ant-droid]]s to a picnic, you&#039;re a Convoy in Japan.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Beast Wars continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s only passingly touched on, but may be noteworthy that the phrase, &amp;quot;Who died and made you Prime?&amp;quot; was used by [[Maximal]] characters in &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars (franchise)|Beast Wars]],&#039;&#039; implying that, to them, &amp;quot;prime&amp;quot; was roughly equivalent to &amp;quot;leader&amp;quot;. They also used the word to mean &amp;quot;great&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;good&amp;quot; in the phrases &amp;quot;That&#039;s just prime,&amp;quot; (said sarcastically), and &amp;quot;Feeling prime.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Dreamwave continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
This continuity also establishes Prime as designating the leader of the Autobots, but there is some muddled information. The Prime carried within him the Matrix of Leadership, but it appears that the Matrix doesn&#039;t contain the wisdom of past leaders, as that was held on a [[Golden Disk (council)|separate datatrak]]. Also, the Prime did not appoint his successor. A new Prime was chosen by the [[Council of Ancients]], supposedly through divine authority. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s unknown what powers the Prime shared with the [[High Council]] and the Council of Ancients, but the Prime had several powers. In addition to being commander-in-chief of the Autobot Army, the Prime also had the authority to order a planet wide evacuation. Autobots gave oaths of loyalty to the Prime, and were expected to risk their lives for the Prime&#039;s safety (whether the Prime wanted them to or not). {{storylink|The War Within}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are five known Primes in Dreamwave continuity, listed in MTMTE #8. These are Alpha Prime, Guardian Prime, Sentinel Prime, Optimus Prime and Rodimus Prime. The list does not specify chronology, and Rodimus Prime never appeared in any actual Dreamwave comics. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Armada/Energon/Cybertron continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
Prime is indeed a title given to leaders and matrix bearers here, as evidenced by both Vector Prime and Optimus Prime, but no other Primes are ever named.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===IDW Comics continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Primes IDW.JPG|right|150px|thumb|[[To sell toys|Get on it, Hasbro!]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
Optimus Prime describes Primes as beings that define the eras they ruled. Thus, Nova Prime presided over an era in which the populace believed the Cybertronian race&#039;s destiny was in the stars, and commissioned the first [[Ark (G1)|&#039;&#039;Ark&#039;&#039; spacecraft]].  {{storylink|Spotlight: Optimus Prime}} Although certainly a matrix-bearer, as confirmed by Optimus and Galvatron, Nova Prime disappeared into the [[Benzuli Expanse]] while aboard the &#039;&#039;Ark&#039;&#039;, with the Matrix guiding him into the [[Dead Universe]]. {{storylink|Spotlight: Galvatron}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Before the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]], Sentinel Prime served as the head of the Autobot Security Services, the chief law enforcement and military body on Cybertron. However, he stresses that he is ultimately subservient to the will of the [[Senate]] who enact the laws he enforces. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 3|Megatron Origin #3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After Cybertron is rendered uninhabitable, Optimus Prime is the apparent highest ranking Autobot, directing the galaxy-spanning conflict to deny the Decepticons conquest of additional planets. In this task, he occasionally seeks the guidance of the ancient Autobot and weapon of last resort [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There appear to be at least four Primes predating Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Spotlight: Optimus Prime}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There seems to be an Autobot who held the rank of &amp;quot;Prime&amp;quot; between Sentinel and Optimus in the IDW continuity. During an early skirmish during the opening days of the Great War, a pre-Prime Optimus and Blurr discuss a plan to rescue the Autobot commander [[Zeta Prime]]. It can be assumed that this &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; Prime was &amp;quot;sworn in&amp;quot; following Sentinel Prime&#039;s death in &#039;&#039;Megatron Origin&#039;&#039; (LBJ style), before ultimately dying himself, passing the &amp;quot;Prime&amp;quot; mantle onto Optimus. {{storylink|Spotlight: Blurr}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Movie continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Dynasty of Primes}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{note|The following has been [[retcon]]ned during the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]] phase of the film series.}}&lt;br /&gt;
The title of Prime was bestowed upon the civilian and spiritual leader of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] but at the same time, aided the [[Lord High Protector]] in stewarding the [[AllSpark (Movie)|All Spark]] just as the Lord High Protector was co-ruler. Optimus Prime held this title before, during and after the war for the All Spark as leader of the [[Autobot]]s. {{storylink|Ghosts of Yesterday}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
According to The Quest For the ALLSPARK paperback&#039;s opening paragraph, &amp;quot;...Most revered were Optimus and Megatron. They were twin brothers of the Prime dynasty.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
This, along with the note from the Autobots version of the same DS game that Megatron &amp;quot;took the spark&amp;quot; of his and Optimus&#039; father, implies that “Prime” may have been their father’s name and that Megatron may have also had the surname &amp;quot;Prime&amp;quot; as well.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers Animated===&lt;br /&gt;
Prime is still a rank in this continuity, but (uniquely) it is distinctly lower than commander of all Autobots (that would be [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]] &amp;amp;mdash; the &amp;quot;[[Magnus]]&amp;quot; refers to his rank). This is revealed when [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]] attempts to give an order to [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]]. Optimus is able to disregard this order because regardless of Sentinel&#039;s standing on the [[Cybertron Elite Guard]], they are both still Primes of equal rank. {{storylink|The Elite Guard}} Both Ultra Magnus and Sentinel Prime have bars on their forearms, with more bars present for the superior officer. Optimus Prime lacks these, and as such it is unknown if they are only present on the Elite Guard. The rank of Prime seems to be roughly equivalent to the human naval rank of captain.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In addition to Optimus and Sentinel, there is also [[Rodimus Prime (Animated)|Rodimus Prime]] and [[Shockwave (Animated)|Longarm Prime]]. Longarm was presumably given the rank as head of [[Cybertron Intelligence]], although his predecessor [[Highbrow (Animated)|Highbrow]] was never referred to as a Prime.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the Animated universe, there is also the rank of &amp;quot;[[Minor (rank)|Minor]]&amp;quot;, which lies below Prime.  [[The AllSpark Almanac 2|Some sources]] [[Omega Sentinel (Animated)|hint at]] a &amp;quot;Major&amp;quot; rank lying above Minor, but below Prime.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Fun Publications fan club comics===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Clubcombinercarving.jpg|right|150px|thumb|A component of the Prime of Rarified Energon looks at a portrait of his complete self...]]&lt;br /&gt;
It is revealed that the first [[Thirteen original Transformers]] created by Primus to crew his planetary form were all designated Primes. In addition to this designation, each was given a specific task or role in sustaining the multiverse.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Vector Prime]] was granted guardianship of space-time. The Prime who would become [[The Fallen]] was charged to oversee the force of entropy. [[Nexus Maximus|Another of these Primes]] was made the guardian of [[Rarified Energon]].  Logos Prime and Prima&#039;s function are still unknown.&lt;br /&gt;
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These Primes are [[Multiversal singularity|multiversal singularities]] (like their creator, only one version of each existing across all realities).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Shattered Glass===&lt;br /&gt;
The title of Prime is not an honorary rank but the title of the diabolical leader of the Autobots. [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]] stands as the current Prime. For now. [[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]], [[Ultra Magnus (SG)|Ultra Magnus]] or [[Thunderclash (SG)|Thunderclash]] may very well usurp the title and position in the future.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Prime===&lt;br /&gt;
Following the War of the [[Thirteen original Transformers|Original Thirteen Primes]], the [[Covenant of Primus]] decreed there would only be one Prime ruling Cybertron at a time. It was technically [[Primus]]&#039;s right to appoint the Prime and bestow them the Matrix, but gradually his children became ignorant of his presence. It almost seems [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Sentinel Prime]] was the only Prime between the Age of the Primes and [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus]], as he fought off the [[Quintesson]]s, established the [[Golden Age]] and tried to combat its decline by establishing the [[caste system]], to [[Alpha Trion (Prime)|Alpha Trion]]&#039;s displeasure. Sentinel was unworthy of the Matrix, and the [[Core]] said it was only after his death that Optimus could receive it for being a Prime was not a status Trion or the High Council could grant. The civil war began and continues as [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] and [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] both want to be Prime and bear the Matrix. {{storylink|Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In Xbox 360/PS3/PC version of &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: War for Cybertron| War for Cybertron]]&#039;&#039;, the [[Autobot High Council]] declare they exist to choose the Primes, and seemingly referencing the Thirteen, note they have watched as many Primes fell to their greed and pride.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Autobot commander (disambiguation)|Autobot Commander]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Supreme Commander]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Convoy]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Magnus]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Generation 1]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Movie]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Ranks]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Religion]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Transformer culture]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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{{quote|We are Primus. We are Prima. We are Prime Nova. We are Sentinel Prime. We are Optimus Prime.}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Prime&#039;&#039;&#039; is a rank of highest distinction in many [[Transformers]] continuities. Typically, it is used as the identification for the leader of the [[Autobot]]s, something that is bestowed only on those that carry the [[Matrix of Leadership]] within them. It is [[Retcon|retroactively]] derived from [[Primus]], the creator of the Transformers. &lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Japanese equivalent:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Convoy]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===Marvel Comic continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
The idea of Prime being a title/rank has its first, fullest expression here. A direct lineage of Creation Matrix bearers is established, each taking on a derivation of the name of their god Primus. They are [[Prima]], [[Prime Nova]], [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]], [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], and [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]].&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|A later [[Simon Furman]] story drawing on this lineage he himself created added [[Primon]] to the beginning of this list. Of note is that the name Prime has no real necessary relation to Autobot leadership here. Optimus Prime becomes a Prime long before he becomes the overall Autobot Commander. Rather, Prime is a religious title (as the Creation Matrix is a religious artifact: a relic of their god). The closest human analogue to a Prime might be the Pope. }}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cartoon continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
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The evidence for &amp;quot;Prime&amp;quot; being a rank here is weaker than elsewhere, but the case can still be made. Though many Matrix-Bearers are seen, and all are by definition Autobot Leaders, only four are ever named; 2 Primes, 2 not: [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]], Optimus Prime, [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], and Rodimus Prime. Without knowing any other names it is hard to make a concrete case here for &amp;quot;Prime&amp;quot; being a title given only to Matrix-Bearers. &lt;br /&gt;
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It is of note though that if it were, then &amp;quot;Prime&amp;quot; in this continuity would be a military/political title (since it is the &amp;quot;Matrix of Leadership&amp;quot;), rather than the religious title of the Marvel Comics.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Prime&amp;quot; is a title/rank similar in use to Marvel Comics. There is a nearly complete linage of Matrix of Leadership bearers taking the rank. They are: [[Primon]], [[Prima]], [[Prime Nova]], [[Guardian Prime]], [[Zeta Prime]], [[Sentinel Prime (G1)#Generation 1 cartoon|Sentinel Prime]], [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]], [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], and [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]]. {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac Volume 2}}&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|Not all Convoys are Primes (and vice-versa). If you can lead [[Ant-droid]]s to a picnic, you&#039;re a Convoy in Japan.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Beast Wars continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s only passingly touched on, but may be noteworthy that the phrase, &amp;quot;Who died and made you Prime?&amp;quot; was used by [[Maximal]] characters in &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars (franchise)|Beast Wars]],&#039;&#039; implying that, to them, &amp;quot;prime&amp;quot; was roughly equivalent to &amp;quot;leader&amp;quot;. They also used the word to mean &amp;quot;great&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;good&amp;quot; in the phrases &amp;quot;That&#039;s just prime,&amp;quot; (said sarcastically), and &amp;quot;Feeling prime.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Dreamwave continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
This continuity also establishes Prime as designating the leader of the Autobots, but there is some muddled information. The Prime carried within him the Matrix of Leadership, but it appears that the Matrix doesn&#039;t contain the wisdom of past leaders, as that was held on a [[Golden Disk (council)|separate datatrak]]. Also, the Prime did not appoint his successor. A new Prime was chosen by the [[Council of Ancients]], supposedly through divine authority. &lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s unknown what powers the Prime shared with the [[High Council]] and the Council of Ancients, but the Prime had several powers. In addition to being commander-in-chief of the Autobot Army, the Prime also had the authority to order a planet wide evacuation. Autobots gave oaths of loyalty to the Prime, and were expected to risk their lives for the Prime&#039;s safety (whether the Prime wanted them to or not). {{storylink|The War Within}}&lt;br /&gt;
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There are five known Primes in Dreamwave continuity, listed in MTMTE #8. These are Alpha Prime, Guardian Prime, Sentinel Prime, Optimus Prime and Rodimus Prime. The list does not specify chronology, and Rodimus Prime never appeared in any actual Dreamwave comics. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Armada/Energon/Cybertron continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
Prime is indeed a title given to leaders and matrix bearers here, as evidenced by both Vector Prime and Optimus Prime, but no other Primes are ever named.&lt;br /&gt;
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===IDW Comics continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Primes IDW.JPG|right|150px|thumb|[[To sell toys|Get on it, Hasbro!]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
Optimus Prime describes Primes as beings that define the eras they ruled. Thus, Nova Prime presided over an era in which the populace believed the Cybertronian race&#039;s destiny was in the stars, and commissioned the first [[Ark (G1)|&#039;&#039;Ark&#039;&#039; spacecraft]].  {{storylink|Spotlight: Optimus Prime}} Although certainly a matrix-bearer, as confirmed by Optimus and Galvatron, Nova Prime disappeared into the [[Benzuli Expanse]] while aboard the &#039;&#039;Ark&#039;&#039;, with the Matrix guiding him into the [[Dead Universe]]. {{storylink|Spotlight: Galvatron}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Before the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]], Sentinel Prime served as the head of the Autobot Security Services, the chief law enforcement and military body on Cybertron. However, he stresses that he is ultimately subservient to the will of the [[Senate]] who enact the laws he enforces. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 3|Megatron Origin #3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After Cybertron is rendered uninhabitable, Optimus Prime is the apparent highest ranking Autobot, directing the galaxy-spanning conflict to deny the Decepticons conquest of additional planets. In this task, he occasionally seeks the guidance of the ancient Autobot and weapon of last resort [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]].&lt;br /&gt;
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There appear to be at least four Primes predating Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Spotlight: Optimus Prime}}&lt;br /&gt;
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There seems to be an Autobot who held the rank of &amp;quot;Prime&amp;quot; between Sentinel and Optimus in the IDW continuity. During an early skirmish during the opening days of the Great War, a pre-Prime Optimus and Blurr discuss a plan to rescue the Autobot commander [[Zeta Prime]]. It can be assumed that this &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; Prime was &amp;quot;sworn in&amp;quot; following Sentinel Prime&#039;s death in &#039;&#039;Megatron Origin&#039;&#039; (LBJ style), before ultimately dying himself, passing the &amp;quot;Prime&amp;quot; mantle onto Optimus. {{storylink|Spotlight: Blurr}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Movie continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Dynasty of Primes}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|The following has been [[retcon]]ned during the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]] phase of the film series.}}&lt;br /&gt;
The title of Prime was bestowed upon the civilian and spiritual leader of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] but at the same time, aided the [[Lord High Protector]] in stewarding the [[AllSpark (Movie)|All Spark]] just as the Lord High Protector was co-ruler. Optimus Prime held this title before, during and after the war for the All Spark as leader of the [[Autobot]]s. {{storylink|Ghosts of Yesterday}}&lt;br /&gt;
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According to The Quest For the ALLSPARK paperback&#039;s opening paragraph, &amp;quot;...Most revered were Optimus and Megatron. They were twin brothers of the Prime dynasty.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
This, along with the note from the Autobots version of the same DS game that Megatron &amp;quot;took the spark&amp;quot; of his and Optimus&#039; father, implies that “Prime” may have been their father’s name and that Megatron may have also had the surname &amp;quot;Prime&amp;quot; as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers Animated===&lt;br /&gt;
Prime is still a rank in this continuity, but (uniquely) it is distinctly lower than commander of all Autobots (that would be [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]] &amp;amp;mdash; the &amp;quot;[[Magnus]]&amp;quot; refers to his rank). This is revealed when [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]] attempts to give an order to [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]]. Optimus is able to disregard this order because regardless of Sentinel&#039;s standing on the [[Cybertron Elite Guard]], they are both still Primes of equal rank. {{storylink|The Elite Guard}} Both Ultra Magnus and Sentinel Prime have bars on their forearms, with more bars present for the superior officer. Optimus Prime lacks these, and as such it is unknown if they are only present on the Elite Guard. The rank of Prime seems to be roughly equivalent to the human naval rank of captain.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to Optimus and Sentinel, there is also [[Rodimus Prime (Animated)|Rodimus Prime]] and [[Shockwave (Animated)|Longarm Prime]]. Longarm was presumably given the rank as head of [[Cybertron Intelligence]], although his predecessor [[Highbrow (Animated)|Highbrow]] was never referred to as a Prime.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the Animated universe, there is also the rank of &amp;quot;[[Minor (rank)|Minor]]&amp;quot;, which lies below Prime.  [[The AllSpark Almanac 2|Some sources]] [[Omega Sentinel (Animated)|hint at]] a &amp;quot;Major&amp;quot; rank lying above Minor, but below Prime.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Fun Publications fan club comics===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Clubcombinercarving.jpg|right|150px|thumb|A component of the Prime of Rarified Energon looks at a portrait of his complete self...]]&lt;br /&gt;
It is revealed that the first [[Thirteen original Transformers]] created by Primus to crew his planetary form were all designated Primes. In addition to this designation, each was given a specific task or role in sustaining the multiverse.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Vector Prime]] was granted guardianship of space-time. The Prime who would become [[The Fallen]] was charged to oversee the force of entropy. [[Nexus Maximus|Another of these Primes]] was made the guardian of [[Rarified Energon]].  Logos Prime and Prima&#039;s function are still unknown.&lt;br /&gt;
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These Primes are [[Multiversal singularity|multiversal singularities]] (like their creator, only one version of each existing across all realities).&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Shattered Glass===&lt;br /&gt;
The title of Prime is not an honorary rank but the title of the diabolical leader of the Autobots. [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]] stands as the current Prime. For now. [[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]], [[Ultra Magnus (SG)|Ultra Magnus]] or [[Thunderclash (SG)|Thunderclash]] may very well usurp the title and position in the future.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Prime===&lt;br /&gt;
Following the War of the [[Thirteen original Transformers|Original Thirteen Primes]], the [[Covenant of Primus]] decreed there would only be one Prime ruling Cybertron at a time. It was technically [[Primus]]&#039;s right to appoint the Prime and bestow them the Matrix, but gradually his children became ignorant of his presence. It almost seems [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Sentinel Prime]] was the only Prime between the Age of the Primes and [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus]], as he fought off the [[Quintesson]]s, established the [[Golden Age]] and tried to combat its decline by establishing the [[caste system]], to [[Alpha Trion (Prime)|Alpha Trion]]&#039;s displeasure. Sentinel was unworthy of the Matrix, and the [[Core]] said it was only after his death that Optimus could receive it for being a Prime was not a status Trion or the High Council could grant. The civil war began and continues as [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] and [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] both want to be Prime and bear the Matrix. {{storylink|Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Xbox 360/PS3/PC version of &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: War for Cybertron| War for Cybertron]]&#039;&#039;, the [[Autobot High Council]] declare they exist to choose the Primes, and seemingly referencing the Thirteen, note they have watched as many Primes fell to their greed and pride.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Autobot commander (disambiguation)|Autobot Commander]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Supreme Commander]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Convoy]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Magnus]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Autobot leaders]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Generation 1]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Movie]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Ranks]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Religion]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Transformer culture]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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