Talk:Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)

2010-08-09T05:32:28Z

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== G1 Characters ==

Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)

:There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)
::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)
:::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)

== It does seem like a seperate continuity ==

I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?
:Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)
::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say "assumption" isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)
:::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)
:::The TFW2005 interview states it's "not connected to any particular generation" and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)
::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)
:::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)
::::::How about "WFC"? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]
:::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using "WFC" to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)
:::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview "Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe." The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)
::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)
:::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying "Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not," or vice-versa "anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?" A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. "Its prehistory is very slightly different" will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)
:[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)
By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than "influenced by it" I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]
EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]

To me, this seems every bit as G1 as War Within - Yeah it branches out into it's own story but it's hard to deny that this isn't just as G1 as DW or IDW comics given the use of characters and story telling style. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}} 08:55, 28 June 2010

I just played through the whole game - This game could not be any more G1 even if it tried harder. I don't see how this can be in the same continuity as TF:Prime when it's so undeniably G1. It belongs as part of the G1 continuity family not TF:Prime which appears to be it's own movie inspired continuity. The game is not like Animated in which it 'borrows and adapts' elements from G1, this game actually is G1 down to how characters are portrayed and roles they are assigned as well as the story telling structure. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27|04:40, 11 July 2010 (EDT)}}
:How do you know it's not like Prime? Character designs? Pah. I could use that strawman to declare the Don Figueroa era of the Ongoing an AU too, you know, or TF: Bumblebee being non-canon with said Ongoing. We know next to nothing about TF: Prime, you have no basis whatsoever to say it can't be just as heavily G1-inspired as WFC is. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:57, 11 July 2010 (EDT)

How can you tell that it is? We had two conflicting official sources one saying that it is and one saying that it isn't. I rather go by what the game developers say than what Hasbro marketing says thank you very much. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}}
:The game developers are saying that it's G1 so it sells better. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 06:25, 11 July 2010 (EDT)
:Well, that's your prerogative, but I'd think as Hasbro, the guys who license Transformers out to places like Atari and Activision and IDW, would know more about what fits where than Activision/High Moon Studios would. Perhaps the developpers initially wanted to go the "Generation 1" route, but then Hasbro saw the storyline and thought it fit just as well in "Prime" and decided to announce it as such to help promote the new show. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:26, 11 July 2010 (EDT)

I have a feeling that when TF:Prime finally arrives it will make absolutely no reference whatsoever to WFC and at the end of the day it was just marketing guys talking. I played the game, the game is clearly designed to be G1 despite what Hasbro may blab on about. {{unsigned|Same dude who can't sign his posts}}
:Please. At this point G1 had so many alternate interpretations it's impossible for anything to be qualified as "clearly G1". --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:46, 11 July 2010 (EDT)

But all the interpretations are regarded as G1. Animated isn't G1, Unicron Trilogy isn't G1 and so on. It is very clear what is G1 and what isn't. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}}

Sign your posts! And look, right now, Hasbro is the authority on Transformers. Right now, Hasbro declares WFC part of Prime. Right now, Prime is not G1. So right now, we have WFC separate from G1. If ever the line is blurred or those statements clearly contradicted, we'll give you a call and change it. Until then, this is the safest and easiest way for us to document the new stuff and it's not going to get changed because one anon doesn't agree. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 08:31, 11 July 2010 (EDT)

Just voicing my views not requesting change. No need to be so defensive and I am yet to see anything solid from Hasbro saying that this is part of TF: Prime and something tells me that we won't. Personally I believe that calling WFC as part of TF:Prime is premature.

== The New trailer ==

should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)
: The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)
:: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]
preety much.

== Logos ==

I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)
: No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)

== Starscream? ==

Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the "Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault" picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)
: He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)
::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010
Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)

== Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==

So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)
:We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)
:: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]
::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)

We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)
: It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)
::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::: I'd say more "Classics-ized" versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)

== Fresh trailer guys ==

http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage

Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.

ThiAthEhn
: Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)

Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...
ThiAthEhn
: Third link in "external links" at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)

==Character Sources?==
I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)
: For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)

==Release date==
Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)
sweetness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

== Motormaster ==

Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version:
http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg

Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game.
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html
: I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)

== Interview and more gameplay and footage ==

http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story

Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.

-Aaron Archer

-It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.

-Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?

-And much more...

ThiAthEhn

== No PSP option... ==

Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

== [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==

I think its a "revised"
backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

== Voice actor thing ==

I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending "false" information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
:The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.
:So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)
:::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)
::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with "AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego" and "Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]". Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not "We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia." --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
:::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with "idiots" over "cover-up". --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
According to IMDB, Soundwave is played by [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0071818/ Jeff Bennet]. Is this legit enough for this wiki? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:22, 3 June 2010 (EDT)
:Nuh-uh. IMDB is like Wiki where any user can edit the content, be it actual or junk. I rather wait till an official announcement from either Activision or High Moon themselves. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:54, 3 June 2010 (EDT)

== New Characters' pages? ==
VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?
: We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)
::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)

VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}

:The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out "Oops, they're part of G1" and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)

VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}
:I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
:I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
:::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)

== Jazz? ==

The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave

== Image Captions/Quotes ==

So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?

And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.

''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''

Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved

[[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)
:By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)
::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same "gritty dark" feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)
::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: "Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little." Omega Supreme's picture: "Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off." Megatron: "I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered." Bumblebee: "Little people first!"
::For Starscream joining the Decepticons, "What would you have your Arbiter do?" [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 00:36, 06 June 2010 (EST)

== New characters ==

Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
:Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
:: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the "embargo" pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)

::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream (Prime)|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[Special:Contributions/98.204.17.1|98.204.17.1]] 17:45, 26 May 2010 (EDT)
:Short Answer: No. Long Answer: Well, probably not, they're almost crtainly actual characters in the story version of the game from what we've seen, but no one will know 100% for sure until the game is out and we play through and see. But still, likely, no. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:00, 26 May 2010 (EDT)
Actual answer: they are multiplayer chassis / escelation mode characters. However jazz and arcee do make an appearance in a level in the autobot campaign. They're well hidden so I encourage you to find them for yourself.

== So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==

[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
:I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)
:::"Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS..." So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Picked my copy up and it is rather a bit more close to Exodus from the reviews elsewhere. While I don't have a copy of Exodus on hand yet, the charges against Megatron that includes bombing Six Lasers Over Cybertron and kidnapping Sentinel Prime is mentioned. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:20, 24 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Feel free to edit the article I set up at my [[User:Lonegamer78/Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|sandbox]] until we can figure out where to place the comic's article. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)

== For now... ==

...I'm deciding WfC is classified as a Primax-cluster universe. Now that the toys are sort of out, we really need to stick them ''somewhere''. And there's been nothing indicated that its universe isn't terribly G1y. This could change in the future as we come to understand its universe better, but we can move it then. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 2 June 2010 (EDT)
:I'm beginning to wonder if the "G1 continuity family" is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't "terribly G1y" in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

== Division by Game? ==

At some point soon are we going to need to give this page a major overhaul? From the sounds of it the Wii and DS versions are going to have signifigant enough character and play differnces that talking about it all as "one single game" would likely become counterproductive. Don't have the time right now to check but isn't that how we've handled multiplatform games in the past? A 360/PS3 section, a Wii section and a DS section? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:15, 4 June 2010 (EDT)
:I know there are two seperate articles for the PS1 and N64 versions of the Beast Wars Transmetal fighting games. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:54, 4 June 2010 (EDT)
::The games actually have different names, as well. The Wii version is called Transformers: Cybertron Adventures. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 23:55, 4 June 2010 (EDT)
:Usually there's seperate pages for different versions of the games, there'll probably be one for this game too. Might be better to wait until they're out though. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:25, 11 June 2010 (GMT)

== Matt Tieger Says... ==
I am, right now, listening to a Kotaku podcast where they are interviewing Matt Tieger, and he says War for Cybertron is "like a prequel to G1." http://ca.kotaku.com/5559654/its-a-prime-time-to-talk-transformers
So, is this confirmation of being G1, or do we still wait until the game or official fiction is released? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:01, 9 June 2010 (EDT)
:I think the keywords is that he used "like a" on describing WfC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:07, 9 June 2010 (EDT)
Another note from the podcast: Matt Tieger says that Corey Burton is NOT the voice of Shockwave, but rather they got a sound-alike. Should this be worth mentioning? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
:: Matt Tieger has also said that WFC is a direct prequel to the G1 cartoon, which is impossible on several levels given what we know. I think a lot of what he says is to get people to buy the game (SHOCK SHOCK I KNOW) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

== DS Version ==

Source for all of these "DS-only" guys? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:34, 11 June 2010 (EDT)
: People who've played the game. I myself have seen Kup and Dirge fairly early on in the Toys R Us demo version. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:38, 11 June 2010 (EDT)
:: After going through the game, Kup's actually not playable, never featured beyond his portrait appearing in the tutorial. Hot Rod, on the other hand, is in, though he's named Hot Shot. On the decepticon side, there's also Ramjet, Motormaster and Dragstrip--[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 05:46, 23 June 2010 (EDT)

==Box Art==

I have a picture of the Box Art, should I upload it, and if there's a version already here, shouldn't we use it as the Main Picture? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 13:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

==

== I know some missons! ==

I resantly looked at campaign and misson desighn and it showed the names of some missons lets add that.
:Where did you look at them? Were they officially released by Hasbro/the programming company? If not, then they are not eligible for inclusion on this wiki. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:54, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
yes,
confirmed misson names are
defend iacon,
death of hope,
the final guardian,
fuel of war,
iacon destroyed,
false propaganda,
decagon plaza
these are a few confirmed missons
:Where were they released? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:57, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
Confirmed by high moon.
:Where? When? Source, please? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
www.transformersgame.com go to media videos then behind the sceans campagn and misson desighn then when hes choosing a level he scrolls throgh these levels.

== Profiles? ==

Should we bother linking to all of the available official website character profiles, or are we just going to remove the existing links once the game comes out? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:07, 18 June 2010 (EDT)
: They count as G1 canon so we should keep them linked to their G1 counterparts.--[[User:Primetime]] 12:06, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
:: That's not what Jeysie is talking about. She's talking about the links to the official WFC website. "official website character profiles." Me, uh, I don't really have an opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
::: Yeah, Walky got it in one.
::: I guess my confusion was... I wasn't sure if the links were intended as information (in which case, might as well keep 'em), or just as sources for the character being in the game (in which case, once we get an official credits list from the game itself, said sources aren't really needed).
::: Not that I'm fussed either way... I just was itching to be consistent, and wasn't sure if that involved linking or deleting. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:14, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
:::: For me, more info is almost always better. Link!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 00:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

==Name?==

Is there a name for the guy I'm referring to as "Giant Autobot tank thing that you fight before Zeta Prime"? He has lines and stuff, but he didn't really look like anybody I recognized. (I refuse to call him by the name "that guy who kicked my ass about a dozen times until I got lucky.") {{unsigned|Skyshock Thunderblast}} 09:22, 25 June 2010
:I'm pretty sure he's just a generic. You fight a few more during the Decepticon campaign, and some more during the Autobot campaign. I know they call the Decepticon ones "Destroyers," but I'm not sure what the Autobot ones are called. The loading-screen hints refer to them as, simply, Tanks. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
::I had assumed "Destroyer" was for both Autobots and Decepticons with that body-type. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:06, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
:::I assumed that as well, but I was just going with what I knew for certain. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:27, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
:::: I would SWEAR I heard one of the other Autobots refer to him by name. Well, Matt Tieger from Full Moon is at BC this year. Ask him? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:56, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
::::: Tanks for Autobots, Destroyers for Decepticons, according to the subtitles.
== DS Profile Pictures ==

Any use in screenshots for the characters as they appear in the DS Game? Will also be able to get console versions soon too.
--[[User:Scatterlung|Scatterlung]] 14:22, 26 June 2010 (EDT)

== Who's the blue Autobot Tank? ==
In the concept art (autobot recruits section, i believe) and the credits, there is a blue Autobot tank that clearly is not a blue version of Warpath, and looks like a completely different design. Is this a reference to a real Transformers character? ''(i don't know everything there is to know about transformers, so to those who do, please have mercy...)'' [[Special:Contributions/24.145.176.54|24.145.176.54]] 14:08, 26 June 2010 (EDT)unregistered contributor (has accounts on other wikis, but doesn't work on this one)
:I'd say Twin Twist; while it's obviously not a jumpstarter, he's the closest thing to a blue and white Autobot tank I could find. The real mystery is why the Constructicon truck and this guy aren't in the game, since those faction/classes only have one mesh right now.
::I strongly doubt it's Twin Twist. Can you give us any more details about the character? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:59, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
:::I think it's just the model for the generic Autobot tank soldiers you fight in the game. It may not actually be that color of blue (some of the character models aren't the final colors). --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
::::It certainly isn't, because there aren't any. Is there any real reason it can't be Twin Twist? I can post a pic, but he doesn't look much like anyone in particular (much as the purple/green constructicon doesn't either). Tanks (or heavy enough to be tanks) are rare enough on the Autobot side to narrow it down pretty quickly: the only guys that jump out at me are Twin Twist or animated Sentinel Prime. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pnakotus/tf/IMG_0550.jpg. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.127.90|118.208.127.90]]
:I have the 360 game the guy is in the credits sinama. I think he may be a sneek peak at ultar magnus for this game but thats just my gess. {{unsigned|74.103.61.137}} 06:12, 28 June 2010
:The PC version, having all the bot names apparent on characters' model files, names him as Scattershot.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:50, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
::Aha, so I was right. Because his head, colors, and altmode are 100% Cybertron Defense [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:54, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

The blue tank (my opinion) must be Scattorshot because Scattorshot doesn't look like a blue Warpath, he's a dlc character, and he is a soldier (like a Warpath)

== Maybe its time for a cleanup ==

The game is out, the preview stuff is now irrelevant, and solid information regarding plot, characters, continuity etc is available. Devoting 33% of the article to a promotional webgame that hasn't told us anything for six months is ... strange.
:I've worked a bit on the article today. Did a synopsis for the 360 version, but I don't own the Wii or DS ones. Someone else will have to help with those. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:27, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
::I'd suggest moving the Gallery to the end, using a more TFwiki standard arrangement of images/references/voice actors/etc, removing the useless 'Transmission Recovery' section, and expanding the references section (Primus, conversion cog, etc). [[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]
:::Perhaps the 'Transmission Recovery' section could be split into a new article? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:24, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Sure, but the game isn't playable anymore and the video you 'recover' is just one of the trailers that are freely available.[[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]
:::::Okay, the sections are shuffled to be more logical and in line with other articles. What happened to the plot synopsis? [[User:Pnakotus|Pnakotus]] 00:54, 28 June 2010 (EDT)

== Advice on writing up the weapons.==
I think the game's variety of weapons deserves a write-up, but I'm not sure if I should make individual pages for them or just put them all on one page. Information for the Null Ray, for example, was already sort-of mentioned on the page for the G1 [[Null ray]]. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
:I went ahead and made a page for all of the weapons. Definitely needs pics, though... --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 17:01, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
::I think they really need to have individual pages - the list page doesn't really fit in with how we do things. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (EDT)

== Can we lock these WFC articles down? ==

Or else I'm going to be spending the rest of my time on the wiki attempting to write WFC articles only to have to clean up after anon users (and relatively new members who don't know how to write in our style). Then I will give up because the articles are now too much work to get up to standards, video gamers who edited these articles have amazingly short attention spans and have left, and I'm the only one left who edits these things, as seen here last year: [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)]] *cries* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:29, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:Which ones? just the main game articles? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:19, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
::Probably for the best. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:01, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
Hey, I can still edit these things too! I need to...uh...actually finish the game first, though. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:38, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

== G1? ==

This game SHOULD NOT be connected to the prime series.WHICH IS WHY HASBRO PUT THIS AS CANNON TO THE G1 series.you can not tell me that the storline for the game is the same as the exodus comic book.-- [[user:Primetime]] july 6,2010 (EDT)
:We might take you more seriously if you're not screaming at us and misspelling "canon". Just a suggestion. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:39, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
::Also, Exodus isn't a comic book, and it's marketed as a tie-in novel to the game. So for all intents and purposes it is the novelization of the game, even if it's not exactly the same.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 00:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
:They did? When? Where? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:49, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
1:I'm not yelling,I just typed it that way.2:It's a tie-in comic?3:This wiki hardly listens to other users to the point where i should be yelling.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:57,7 July 2010 (EDT)
:Exodus mentions the video game in its trade dress in several places. Also, as I said, it's not even a comic.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 01:16, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
hmmmmm, so which one is the g1 prequel because high moon sayed their storyline was a g1 prequel(read interviews).And they came out first and hasbro is just trying to jazz things up with things like Exodus and the prime cartoon(which is sayed to be a movie prequel but I don't know).--[[Primetime|Primetime]] 01:36,7 July 2010 (EDT)
:Exodus was released on the same day as War for Cybertron. Because, again, it's a marketing tie-in.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 01:40, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
Thats great! now like I sayed before is it G1 liked the interviews sayed or not like some of you keep saying(I mean the game).--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:26 7, July 2010 (EDT)
:It's the backstory for the new continuity that the Prime cartoon on the Hub will share. This was confirmed at BotCon. The new continuity borrows elements from several past ones, including a movie-style AllSpark, a series of space bridges leading to Cybertronian colonies a la Galaxy Force/Cybertron, the Elite Guard from Animated, the Wreckers, and a great many other nods to previous work. It is not exclusively G1 that is referenced.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:37, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
::NO IT IS NOT G1. STOP INTERPRETING STUFF HIGH MOON STUDIOS SAID SO THE GAME WOULD SELL BETTER AS WORD OF GOD.
::I had to get that out of my system. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 02:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
:If it's G1, why is there an AllSpark cube? Why is Bumblebee mute? And what's Gigantion doing there? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 09:46, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
::Actually, Thy, that's all stuff from the Exodus novel, not WFC proper. They're tied together, but the original poster was only speaking about the game. (Annoyingly enough, Bumblebee loses his voice in the novel before the events of the game (loosely) take place, making Bumblebee's talking kind of, you know, another fun discrepancy.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:48, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
SOOO doesn't that mean the Exodus Novel and the game are not related due to the MAJOR differences in the storyline(because honestly the game seems REALLY like its a G1 prequel).And if you disagree explain why bumblebee can suddenly talk again and he is just meeting optimus and ratchet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:00,7 July 2010 (EDT)
: If it fits with G1 how come the designs are different, Dinobots, Combaticons and Aerialbots are present, the origin of Optimus is different, the origin of the Matrix is different, the way they leave the planet is different etc. etc. etc. etc.? {{unsigned|201.88.66.127|12:16, 7 July 2010}}
::That's been done all the time. The cartoon characters had different Cybertronian forms than the Dreamwave characters, but they're both G1. Plus, the Dinobots, Stunticons et al were in the War Within. Still, this game isn't G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 12:27, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
:::Those wouldn't keep it out of G1, but DO prevent it from being the backstory to the G1 toon. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:36, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
: Inconsistencies in story do not magically make Exodus anything other than a marketing tie-in to the game. They are intended to go together. If you likewise choose to ignore the fact that Hasbro have said that this will continue on into Prime and beyond, I don't know what more we can get out of this discussion.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 12:26, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
Okay High moon is STILL saying their game is a prequel to G1 even after they released the game.We SHOULD make new WFC pages,or link them back to G1.Forget hasbro right now I'm talking about High moon and their intentions for their game.No prime or Exodus.---[[Primetime|Primetime]] 1:14, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
:WFC is part of the backstory for TF:Prime. It seems like it can apply to G1 too because TF:Prime is deliberately mirroring a lot of G1, especially in past setup. But they're not the same and we will not treat them the same. Unless High Moon is also writing the next cartoon, that's that. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 13:25, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
::"Forget Hasbro"? You do realize that Hasbro has the final say on things, not High Moon. High Moon's statements are simply marketing, not fiction. Of course, why we are bothering to try to explain this to someone whose grasp of English does not include the simple word "said" is beyond me. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:36, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
:::This is either a troll or someone who does not understand English. (Who, BTW, happens to share his username with a notorious Wikipedia troll/vandal) Either way this is getting ridiculous. High Moon DOES NOT have the final say on this stuff, their statement about WFC being G1 WAS intended to get more people to buy the game, YOU ARE AN ANNOYING LITTLE MAN, Primetime. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:54, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
(sighs)Okay look,lets drop this WHOLE topic.I might have misspelled on ACCIDENT and generally I was asking a question that you guys kept dodging.I'm not a troll(never heard of the ''notorious troll on wikia before that you're talking about'')so lets leave it alone and keep igonoring my question and go on with our lives.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:12, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
:We've answered your question. Repeatedly. This IS NOT a prequel to the G1 toon, because Hasbro says it isn't. The hyperbole and metaphor used by High Moon as marketing strategy does not enter into things. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:24, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
OOOKKKKAAAYYY I understand, now stop Talking about it.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 14:35, 7 July 2010 (EDT)

== pages ==

When are we going to create more character pages(e.g.Jetfire,Air Raid)?Just wondering because for some reason instead of a page for Ironhide we have a page for scattershot who isn't released yet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 14:48,7 July 2010 (EDT)
:We just got an avalanche of materials to work through - AllSpark Almanac 2, Exodus, BotCon coverage - so it's going to take time to create other character pages when we get to it. "Your patience will be rewarded." --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:55, 7 July 2010 (EDT)

== DLC ==
Shouldn't we put more info about the upcoming dlc somewhere on this page because the ''extra info'' I'm talking about has already been confirmed(e.g.maps,characters).Right now the only info is the characters.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 3:41,8 July 2010 (EDT)
:Dude, please. It's perfectly fine to ask for an article to be brought up to date, but it's pointless to tell anyone "shouldn't we complete this article". There's tons of articles to complete and whoever's on it is on it. If no one's on it yet, someone will be on it later. If you feel there's information missing, information you have access to, you can always try add it yourself. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:12, 8 July 2010 (EDT)

== hmmmm? ==
Question!Question!so ummmm...would WFC really go on the same page as the prime series due to the differences in storyline because it seems like it they would have different pages.Can someone please explain why because its kinda confusing.--[[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 16:04,July 8 2010 (EDT)
:No. WFC is a version of Prime, so it goes on the Prime pages under its own section. The same way the cartoon, Marvel, Dreamwave, Devil's Due, IDW are all versions of G1 and so go on the G1 pages. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:15, 8 July 2010 (EDT)
ohhhh,okay thank you.-- [[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 16:15, 8 July 2010 (EDT)

== Title ==

Given the way things are generally named on this wiki, shouldn't this article just be titled 'War for Cybertron' rather than 'Transformers: War for Cybertron'? --[[User:Fortress Minimus|Fortress Minimus]] 07:17, 13 July 2010 (EDT)

The title of the game is ''Transformers:War for Cybertron'' right?So we should go by the title of the game. [[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 12:25, 17 July 2010 (EDT)
:Did a quick check of a few things.... Franchises tend to have the "Transformers" removed from the title (except Animated, mainly because it would just look funny), as do comic books (see [[Infiltration]] etc.). Video games tend to keep the "Transformers" prefix (except for ROTF, where most of the games drop it). It seems that policy is somewhat vague. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 00:53, 18 July 2010 (EDT)

== Links in Transformers references ==

Why is it that for things like "Brute-a-kiss" and "Devastator!" we link to the original (mostly G1) versions and not the disambiguation pages? For "Motormaster!", I can understand since until the game, there was only one Motormaster, but "Blast-a-rachnia" could easily be a reference to the Animated character and not just the BW one. Would it make more sense to link to the disambiguation pages for some of them, or am I alone? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 10:05, 25 July 2010 (EDT)
:That may simply be a remnant of when we thought that this game (and the Prime franchise) were part of the G1 continuity families. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:43, 25 July 2010 (EDT)
::That's what I was thinking. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 12:18, 25 July 2010 (EDT)

== Comics ==

Well I see the point about the game not being a prequel to the G1 cartoon.So how about the dreamwave comics or something?Hasbro doesn't seem to ever care about storylines making sense; so why should we consider them tie-ins because they want to sell toys?Shouldn't we look into other universes other than the cartoon.The Marvel Comics continuity for instance. --[[User:saberblade]] 10:52, 25 July 2010 (EDT)
:Various details (particularly having to do with Jetfire, the Dinobots, and the combiner teams) prevent it from being the backstory to any major (and most minor) G1 universe. This game is part of Hasbro's new Prime franchise (which is heavily G1 influenced but with many characters and concepts from later franchises added in), no matter what the video game company says as promotion. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:47, 25 July 2010 (EDT)

== Nav Box ==

Not saying it's totally a bad idea, but I wonder if a TF: Prime continuity nav box might be more useful here than just of WFC solo box? Since WfC is just one facet of Prime? I can see arguments either way but thought I'd bring it up. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 10:58, 26 July 2010 (EDT)
:I agree. In fact I had asked a similar question at [[Template_talk:Nav-wfc-game]]. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:06, 26 July 2010 (EDT)

== In the interests of these WFC articles being accurate... ==

Do all the generic enemies you face, weapons, locations ect in the 360/PS3/PC version of the game also appear in the Wii and DS versions? Because there's minor articles being written and linking back to this general War for Cybertron article, though it's obviously written with the 360/PS3/PC version in mind. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:54, 1 August 2010 (EDT)
:I can't speak for the Wii version, but the DS version has a different set of generic enemies and there aren't any weapon pickups. Those articles should be linking to the 360/PS3/PC article. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 03:13, 1 August 2010 (EDT)

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