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Shockwave (WFC)

2012-08-15T18:47:38Z

72.215.154.250: /* Generations */ Minor observation, recommending care to be taken.

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:''Shockwave is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

[[Image:War for Cybertron Shockwave.jpg|300px|thumb|right|"When your hit percentage exceeds mine, YOU may choose the soundtrack!"]]
'''Shockwave''' was a member of the scientist caste in the industrial city of [[Kaon]]. In a reversal of the usual order, he was swayed by the ambitions of the former mining caste member turned gladiator [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]]. Serving as Megatron's "pet mad scientist" and [[second-in-command|second-in-command]], he saw to the fighter's armament during his rise to prominence, all the while fantasizing on the prospect of ''mass producing'' such warriors. Thankfully, Megatron's more practical nature reined in Shockwave as the movement which became the Decepticons finally moved out of the shadows.

==Fiction==
===Aligned novels===
Shockwave was a scientist who lived on the fringes of Cybertronian society, admitting to [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Orion Pax]] he knew little of [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]]. He was one of the scientists whose innovations allowed the mass production of stressed-crystal material used to build [[Crystal City]]. There he began his [[combiner]] experiments, creating [[Bruticus (Prime)|Bruticus Maximus]], whose lack of intelligence in combined form made him a danger to friend and foe, and he was put in [[stasis lock]]. Shockwave moved to [[Kaon]], becoming a surgeon for the gladiators, where he met [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]]us. He continued his combination experiments with the three [[Insecticon (Prime)|Insecticon]]s, whom Megatronus bested in combat: it was in this match that the crowd chanted a shorter name for the gladiator, Megatron. Megatron recognized two things about Shockwave: that he was bereft of any morality or ethics, and that while he was his most loyal ally, he would turn on him one day.

[[Image:WFCcomicDecepticons.jpg|thumb|300px|''We three 'Cons of Kaon are...'']]

During the [[Autobot]]-[[Decepticon]] war, Shockwave perfected his experiments with the [[Constructicon (WFC)|Constructicon]]s, creating a [[Devastator (WFC)|Devastator]] which was unleashed on Crystal City. Shockwave set up a laboratory in the ruins but was ordered to take command of the newly conquered city state [[Tarn]]. Autobot sympathizers became fodder for experiments, while Shockwave's forces conquered [[Vos]]. He quelled dissent in both cities by requesting Vos' Air Commanders [[photon missile]] strike Tarn, for which he claimed the Autobots were responsible, and then had a photon missile strike (of supposedly unknown origin) ordered on Vos, killing the Air Commanders whose true loyalty lay with [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]].

When the Decepticons captured [[Trypticon (Prime)|Trypticon]] Station, Shockwave oversaw two of Starscream's scientists ingest [[Dark Energon]]: the powerful result activated a security [[gyro-inhibitor charge]] which rendered Shockwave unconscious. Shockwave later subjected the two subjects to a deprivation study, and found it necessary to muzzle them as the duo agonized as a result of Dark Energon's absence in their bodies. Shockwave also used the [[Spark]]s of those killed in the capture to turn Trypticon into a Decepticon, able to spawn drones and [[Mini-Con|Minicons]] in its corridors.

Shockwave remained on Cybertron in command of the Decepticons, while Megatron left with his elite soldiers on the ''Nemesis'' to pursue the Autobot ''[[Ark (WFC)|Ark]]''. Shockwave promised Megatron that [[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1|Cybertron would remain as he left it]], the notion of which Megatron chastised. He ordered Shockwave to rebuild Cybertron and enslave the remaining Autobots. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}

{{storylink|Transformers: Exiles|Exiles}}
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==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Steve Blum]]''

[[Image:WFC Shockwave game.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Well done. Here come the test results: "You are a horrible person." That's what it says: a horrible person. We weren't even testing for that.]]

{{Note|Shockwave is an pre-order [[exclusive]] downloadable content character for use in multiplayer modes, and is not playable in the ''War for Cybertron'' storyline campaign. Using a preorder code to unlock him will allow the player to use Shockwave in Escalation mode, and makes his chassis available for customizing an online multiplayer character for Decepticon scientists. His chassis is labelled as "Retaliator". Shockwave was later made available alongside the other preorder-exclusive characters in the ''Transformers: War for Cybertron Map and Character Pack''. He was available for the XBox 360 and PS3 versions of the game, but not for the PC version.}}
{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' - Decepticons (DS)===
:''Voice actor:'' Steve Blum

{{Note|Shockwave is an unlockable character for the Nintendo DS version of ''War for Cybertron''. On the Decepticon version he can replace any of the other Decepticons in the campaign mode. He can be unlocked by beating Purification 6 in Arena Mode.}}

Shockwave was at the Energon Purification zone when the Decepticons had used it for their stores of Energon. Shockwave challenged Megatron and his troops to a fight, saying if they beat him, he'd join their ranks. Shockwave was indeed defeated, and somewhat reluctantly joined the Decepticon ranks.
{{Storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron''===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Steve Blum]]''
{{spoiler|Fall of Cybertron|August 21, 2012}}
When Cybertron was beginning to shut down, Shockwave wanted to reboot it, but to do this, he needed an energon supply. A big one. As he searched for one, he discovered an ancient technology called Space Bridges. Using them, Shockwave began searching for new planets that he could suck the life out of, one of which happens to be [[Earth|Prehistoric Earth]]. Seeing potential in the large reptilian creatures and insects that inhabit the planet, he returned to Cybertron and experimented on [[Dinobot (FOC)|five captured autobots]], giving them new forms based on the reptiles and lowered intelligence to be controlled more easily. With this success, Shockwave also upgraded several [[Insecticon (Prime)|Decepticons]] based on the insects he saw. Naturally, the so-called Dinobots broke free and trashed Shockwave's lab.

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{{storylink|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron}}

==Commercial appearances==
:''Voice actor:'' [[Corey Burton]]''
Megatron left Shockwave to handle an unknown battle when he arrived. Shockwave instructed Soundwave to transform into boombox mode and play [[The Touch]]! After a while, Starscream asked about Shockwave's choice of songs and was told once he got a higher hit percentage than Shockwave then he could choose a soundtrack. {{storylink|Commercial#War for Cybertron|GameStop's commercial for their Shockwave multiplayer exclusive}}
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==Toys==
===Generations===
[[Image:Generationstoy-Shockwave.jpg|right|thumb|300px|"I want him in the games until he dies playing. Acknowledge." <br/> "Acknowledged, Master Control." <br/> "End of line."]]
*'''Shockwave''' (Deluxe, 2012)
**''Series/number'': '''01/#003'''
**''Accessories:'' Two-piece laser cannon

: Part of the first wave of [[2012]] ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' Deluxe Class toys, Shockwave is based on his ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (franchise)| War for Cybertron]]'' design, and transforms into a "Cybertronian mobile artillery" mode. The front center fuselage of the vehicle becomes a [[5mm post|hand-held]] laser cannon which can be stored on his back, and undocumented in his [[instructions]], can replace his hands by folding either one of them in, revealing a socket on his wrist that a tab underneath his cannon can mount to. As another undocumented feature, the cannon actually consists of two pieces, with a large y-shaped barrel that can be removed, revealing the sculpted ends of a triple-barreled gun. The y-shaped barrel part can also be stored on Shockwave's back, forming some sort of jet-pack exhaust.

:Shockwave features two examples of [[Kibble#faux-parts|faux-parts]]: The undersides of his heels resemble the front end of the y-shaped barrel part, effectively serving as an extension of the barrel in vehicle mode, whereas a fake replica of the top end of his head (including his signature "ear" panels) is sculpted on the top side of his vehicle mode (which ends up on the underside of his backpack in robot mode).

:The figure has a "dramatic reveal" feature, where pressing the chest into place causes the head to pop up. The clasp used to hold the spring-loaded piece in place is fairly strong, and requires a small amount of force to latch if the head isn't pressed down before moving the chest assembly. Depending on the individual quality of the figure, this can cause the latch to wear out, and the spring is strong enough that the head will push the whole assembly out of place in vehicle mode if not properly retracted. As such, care should be taken on this step of conversion.

: This toy was [[repurposing|repurposed]] as ''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'' [[Shockwave (G1)/toys#Generations|Shockwave]] in [[IDW Publishing]]'s ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|Robots in Disguise]]'' comics.

: This mold was [[retool]]ed into ''Generations'' [[Air Raid (WFC)#Generations|Air Raid]].

===Prime===
*'''Shockwave''' (Deluxe, 2012)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''AM-29'''
**''Accessories:'' Gun, Arms Micron

: In Japan, ''Generations'' Shockwave is sold as part of the ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|Prime]]'' toyline. He comes with a new accessory in the form of an as-of-yet unnamed [[Arms Micron]] partner.

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==Notes==
* In the map of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] from the "[[Binder of Revelation]]" included in ''[[Transformers Vault]]'', Shockwave came from [[Tarn]], which explains why he took control of it during the war.
* Shockwave is usable in both the Autobot and Decepticon versions of the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|''War for Cybertron'' games for the DS]]. He is used only for multiplayer, bonus missions and Arena mode in the Autobot version and used in Multiplayer, Arena mode, and campaign in the Decepticon version.
* In the XBOX 360/PS3 versions of War for Cybertron, Shockwave's left arm is his Plasma Cannon, but in the DS version, it's his ''right'' arm.
* The GameStop ''War for Cybertron'' commercial describes Shockwave as second-in-command of the Decepticons, and [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] is never officially referred to as such.
* For said commercial, Shockwave was voiced by [[Corey Burton]], voice actor of [[Shockwave (G1)|Generation 1]] and [[Shockwave (Animated)|Animated]] Shockwaves. He later lamented over [http://www.coreyburton.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=853&sid=3992b18086e21d8f6face60940505757 a forum post] that the performance was so rushed and the "gag" nature so out of character, that it hardly even sounded like him:
** "Two different sessions; and while they were awfully nice to work with, I have to say that the gag line was written and directed completely off-character. Since it was all supposed to be pretty "camp" anyway, and it had to be wedged-into a space that wasn't even there in the initial cut, I just went along with it. Figured it's just a silly bit of hype, that wasn't worth taking seriously enough to fuss over."
* The aforementioned commercial also indicates that Shockwave is evidently a fan of [[Stan Bush]].
* According to his [[Transformers Hall of Fame]] bio, Shockwave's emotions sometimes get the better of him, leading to irrational behavior. He also hopes that one day his work will let him reformat all Cybertronians to a new form of existence- and ideally become ruler of Cybertron in the process. Looks like Megatron's hunch wasn't far off...
* Although Shockwave is a Jet in the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of the game, he's a ground vehicle in the DS Version. This is most probably because the mission he is unlocked in features his Autobot counterpart, [[Grimlock (WFC)|Grimlock]], a Heavy Ground vehicle. Shockwave's increasable stats are, however, those of a Flying Vehicle.
* His ship mode has more than a passing resemblance to ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' [[Lockdown (Animated)|Lockdown]]'s ship, ''[[Death's Head (Animated)|Death's Head]]''.

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Talk:Unicron

2012-04-05T15:27:42Z

72.215.154.250: /* TF Prime Unicron */

==Greenycron==
In case people are wondering, that toy should really be under the "Mini-Con" entry, since the toy represents a Unicron doppelganger made up of countless Minis, not Unicron himself. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:59, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

== Rule Breaking Chaos Bringer?==

Looking at the entry it's kinda breaking the rule that the "Character Profile" section should not be continuity specific and should only contain continuity-neutral character/personality info. Unicron's here is most definately skeewed towards latter Armada era continuity and doesn't apply at all to his Movie/Cartoon self and story. Are we breaking the rule on him intentionally, or does it need fixing? [[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 02:08, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
:The currently operative retconned storyline is that there is only one Unicron, who travels the dimensions of the multiverse. Armada Unicron = G1 Movie/Cartoon Unicron = Marvel Unicron = Dreamwave Unicron. They're all the same guy, regardless of continuity. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:19, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

:: I know that but I don't think it *CAN* work with G1 cartoon. Like it or not there is no Primus in that Continuity and Unicron is NOT a god, just a big machine built by Primacron. The retcon hits a brick wall and cannot function in the G1 toon without a lot of fanfic-ing. You can't apply the retcon to the Cartoon here without ignoring the *ACTUAL* continuity and stories of the Cartoon in favor of some extremely different, never told, complicated immaginary story. Since the purpose of the Wiki is to inform factually about characters and their history then, I think factually, we have to say the way things actually were. Now granted the retcon can work most everywhere else (though it's a huge obvious retcon many places) so maybe it should get priority, but I'm just saying the main character profile does not work for the Cartoon version unless you want to start making a whole lot of stuff up. [[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 10:08, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

:::Hrm... I astuually kidna agree with Zac. Unicron got a new, huge backstory that was goignt o tie him into everything. "Dont' worry, we'll go back and explain hwo it all works." And then- they enver did. In fact, was the Unicron/Primus conenction witht he One ever actually used, anywhere OTHER than in a guidebook?
:::This entry needs to recognizse that... lapse. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:07, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

::::I'm not in the fan club, so I'm not up on how Unicron's backstory was dealt with in the Club Comic, but if it's been used anywhere that'd be the place I suspect. Something perhaps not directly related to this but interesting to note: Although it didn't mention The One or the multiverse, the Cybertron episode in which Primus woke up and transformed had Vector Prime descibe Primus thusly: "He who charted the universe when it was young. He who battled Unicron at the beginning of time." The charted the universe bit comes from the story with The One, right? But as I said, that's not directly related to that matter at hand.

::::At any rate, futher discussion on how this article should deal with Unicron's retconny-multiverality might best be put on hold a few days until folks currently at BotCon return to contribute to it. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:21, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

:::I don't see a problem with applying the retcon to the G1 cartoon. Unicron, probably disembodied from his previous rampage in some other dimension, found his way into that universe and simply influenced Primacron in some way (how is unimportant) into building a body that he then inhabited. There is no *mention* of Primus anywhere, but that doesn't mean he doesn't exist. Probably the TFs didn't know he was there, or had long ago stopped believing he was real, and he was still asleep, so he never did anything himself. That's an explanation that requires very little gap-filling and allows the retcon to mesh perfectly with the cartoon.

:::On the other hand, Simon said at BotCon 06 that the IDW universe is probably not going to have Primus and Unicron in it, like, at all, which in my opinion *does* break the retcon. Or, retcons the retcon, if you prefer, such that those gods do not exist in every conceivable universe (or even every conceivable Transformers universe), but only in a bunch of them. He is intentionally writing a universe of which they are not a part, rather than simply writing a universe and not mentioning them. That, I think, will need to be dealt with. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 23:00, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

It should be mentioned that Primus WAS in fact retconned into G1 by the time the Beast Era came about, which was meant to be a continuation of the G1 story set in the distant future (until they hit that wormhole. damn space time anomolies). As far as Unicron's origin, it is true that Primus and Unicron were still not considered gods per se, but powerful ancient beings with energies beyond all comprehension. A LOT of retcon was incorperated in this era, and that includes Primus becoming a key figure in the creation of their kind. As early as Beast Wars, Unicron's backstory was heavily altered, following closer to the Marvel continuity, and essentially tying him into the one Unicron theory. While he can only exist in one universe at a time, he can move between space-times as easily as we move through air. His body may change, but his motives are always the same, and in some cases, he has brought information across from one continuity to another.
It is mentioned (albiet briefly) that Jetfire took the name Sky Shadow as an alias while disguised as a Decepticon. The only Sky Shadow (Decepticon) was from Beast Wars, another continuity all together. But what many do not realize is that during Energon, most of the cast came into contact with Unicron's dismembered body. Merely a theory, but he may have gotten the information from Unicron's data banks, which is a better explaination that blaming it on the wormhole ripping causality a new one. It should also be noted it's easier to link his many incarnations throughout the various comic book continuities than it is the cartoons, mainly because the comic writers do research the cartoonists don't. [[User:Dracokanji|Dracokanji]] 04:56, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

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nice article [[User:24.3.227.249|24.3.227.249]] 04:58, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

==Additional Pic==

[[Image:Unicron_tfu_cdrom.jpg|thumb]]

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== Planet Q ==
Planet Q was not consumed between Energon and Armada. Unicron was also put into stasis after Armada and remained that way. Alpha-Q's demise happened eons ago, right after Rodimus left Cybertron. It's confusing in the dub because it contradicts itself, but Super-Link has it spelled out correctly. Alpha-Q actually states he was lost in Unicron for "ages and ages, alone." which is what drove him to madness. The Energon dub never really explains what timeline all of this occurred and it seems the writers never really knew themselves. Another dub error is that Rodimus states Planet-Q put Unicron into stasis. This is not true, the story is exactly the opposite. Unicron survived just fine, hence why all the sparks from the planet were absorbed into his body as he carried on his world-ravaging. -Bodycount
:I figured it was like that...Unicron had layed 'dead' for the ten years between the two shows, and his attack on Planet Q had happened eons ago, before the events of Armada. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] 00:45, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Unicron's a toughie. He has 30 zillion different conflicting stories and origins, but he's canonically all the same guy, and all of his appearances across the different continuities apparently happen in a sequential order. Which is a concept I love, but it's not so easy to reconcile detail-for-detail. [[User:ItsWalky]]

I have some nice pics of Unicron(inculding the battle dameged planet mode ala the Deathstar II, how do I upload them?[[User:X-BoB58]]

In the "toolbox" among the links on the left of your window is a link that says "upload file". Follow the instructions there. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 21:28, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Er Thanks, but I think I made the image a wee too big, is there anyway to make it a thumbnail?

We can get a better picture of Energon Unicron than that

I don't think we need so many similar pictures of Unicron in planet mode. I think the screenshot from the movie is enough, and the OTFCC Universe art is kinda pushing it. --ItsWalky

Unicron looks the exact same in the Armada comics and cartoon. One picture will do for both. X-Bob, stop pushing the image down into where there's no article yet. I put it where it is for a reason. --ItsWalky

Steve- feel free to muck with the Omega Point entry. I'm kinda considering going back and wiking the whole storyline-- it really needs some annotations. Maybe we can argue about the timeloops some more![[User:Derik]]

I feel that the Unicron trilogy (Micron trilogy in Japan) Generation section should be broken up between Dreamwave Continuity (the comics) and Animated Continuity (the TV shows.) I feel this way because a) The use of the phrase 'comics continuity' is too confusing when you have some comics liek Linkage and the Colelctor Club stuff in 'toon continuity. b) They should be by continuity, not by series because otherwise it just becoems too disjointed, and the contnections between the series are weak enough as it is. [[user:Derik]]

I agrea with Derik on this issiue [[user:X-BoB58]]

Why, int he TFU section, does it say Unicron was defeated by the Wreckers? I don't believe dhtere'd been any indications at all that Unicron had been connected to the Wreckers. (It's possible I suppose that this was an issue #4 revelation, but it was my impression that his appearances in TFU proceded from Tarantulus's machinations in Primaeval Dawn, not Wreckers.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:02, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Wreckers #4 would have told us that Cryotek's big plan was resurrecting Unicron. The Wreckers stop him before Unicron is fully restored, or blow him up and leave him half-there. That's where Universe picks up. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:32, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

: Since ''Wreckers'' #4 was never published, should that info even be in the article? Or shouldn't it at least be called out as apocryphal? Also, out of curiosity... how do you KNOW that's what would have happened? Did Glen say so at some point, or was there a script or artwork or something released online, or what...? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 21:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Were the Hasbro and Takara G1 Unicron protos different toys? I was under the impression they were two test-shots of the same mold.

:They're different moulds, I think, but based off the same basic proto, maybe. Takara's is noticably fatter, and has the cord coming from it. It also appears to have an open robot mode mouth, and the "moon" accessory (or perhaps this was a planet Unicron would electronically "eat," but IIRC early Unicronian concept art shows the moon, and all the Movie toys were based off earlier concept art, thusly...) What I'm getting at is that Takara's appears to be modified for electronics while the Hasbro proto has none. [[User:Onslaught Six|Onslaught Six]] 07:50, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

:: The Hasbro version had electronice in the chest below the head, as shown in the toy's patent. I'd give a link, but I can't get to it with the Allspark boards down. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 21:15, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

:::For the record, the Takara mold's torso at least is entirely different from the Hasbro one. It's even got an extra step in the transformation wherein the torso either opens out or extends (hard to tell from available shots) to copy movie Unicron's thinner midsection.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 22:45, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

<nowiki>*spots Willis's notes about Universe #4*</nowiki> That's stupid. I mean, Primal Prime hints darkly of a great failure he had before emerging onto modern Cybertron in Qpelinq's journals. And Primaeval dawn has his fighting Tarantulas, a spawn of Unicron, who turns up in Uncron in TFU. I assuemd he failed to stop Tarry in PD and failed, thus TFU. Why is Unicron coming out of effectively nowhere in Wreckers to ruin our interesting Quint plot? And how does Tarantulas arrive? Laaame. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 06:36, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

== sweet ==

right on, glad my Unicron History page made this section, I've worked my hide off trying to get it together and am glad that it can help!
ErikB
www.transformersontheshelf.com

=="Respawning"?==

What's the background on the statements, "His power is limited to one reality at a time, though he can move between them at will," and, "When Unicron is destroyed in one reality, he will respawn in another, ready to eat again"? [[Primus]] is described in his own article like so: "His body is the planet Cybertron. Primus' lifeforce (aka the Allspark) is a multiversal singularity; it exists across all Transformers realities." This duality - a single mind/metaspark/godhead that's spread across multiple physical bodies - is how I've intuited the "one-Primus/one-Unicron" retcon. Since each universe has its own Cybertron, so likewise it seems each universe should have its own Unicron-body. Why would there be any difference? In fact, some evidence in favor of the multiple-Unibodies model is in the ''Cybertron'' section of this article: "During the final battle, Unicron disappeared from their reality underneath them, sucked away into the Unicron Singularity in another timestream." If Uni only exists in one reality at a time, then how could his destruction in one universe happen while he was existent in another? The only evidence I can think of otherwise is that Uni entered the Armada-comic universe from elsewhere. But to me, that just means that either his original body in the Armada-comic universe had been destroyed, or that the Armada-comic universe was an oddball one that never HAD a Primus or a Unicron (like the IDW-verse is apparently going to be). - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 21:11, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:Unicron's consciousness wasn't present in Universe, just his body. He wasn't in two places, and his Minions were merely trying to resurrect him with eaten spark energy. (That story bit is also from the same story we got the "Only one Unicron who travels across the multiverse" information, so it's not like it's two conflicting stories.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::What story is that from? I just re-read the ''Universe'' comics, and I don't remember any of that being stated. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 22:45, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Fun Publications' Cybertron comics from the fan club magazine. First arc. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

::::The Autobots should camp on Unicron's respawn point and frag his ass. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:21, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Okay, I've re-read those comics now, and I think I can see where you're getting that notion from. But it seems exceedingly vague to me, and I couldn't find anything about "respawning." Basically it comes down to Ramjet's ravings in issue #3: "Bound always by his imprisonment in a physical body, he's been incapable of destroying more than one reality at a time. But Cybertron! Stable axis of the multiverse! One Cybertron, a multiplicity existing concurrently across the infinite realities! Destroy one aspect, and that reality soon crumbles. Cybertron persists, protected by the ordered mathematics of its own existence. A single, infinite curve across all realities; the only truly unique thing in all of creation. Unicron cannot destroy something that is everywhere without himself being everywhere, Prime. And at last, thanks to his new prison and its proximity to Cybertron, he has that chance!" [note: this is accompanied by visuals of a line of Cybertrons, all different, extending indefinitely]
::::That leaves me... unconvinced in the troublesomely literal retcon that this article conveys as truth. Consider that in the first issue, Vector Prime describes the multiverse: "Every movement sends out ripples, which spread out in concentric rings, interacting with ripples created by others, creating new patterns, new realities, branching possiblilities. Every moment is creation and destruction. Every action is a thrown stone, shattering the surface of time." This seems in keeping with the "branching realities" model that most TF multiversal fiction follows (such as the Marvel-comic Uni searching "possible futures" for a herald). But if Uni is literally confined to one reality at any given time, then he must be vanishing from timelines left and right. At every moment, tons of possibilities branch off from one another, and therefore Uni must spontaneously disappear from all but one of the various universes. That's just... stupid. It doesn't even make SENSE based on him being "imprisoned in a physical body." That body should keep existing in all the alternate universes, just like Earth and Cybertron and every OTHER physical body keep existing across the multiverse. Plus Ramjet's use of the term "infinite realities" would make Unicrons' job ultimately impossible. If he truly has to keep hopping from one universe to the next in a linear fashion, he'll never succeed. And yet he DID, once.
::::What makes more sense is that Ramjet's "one reality at a time" statement refers to how Uni has to attack each universe separately. Uni could conceivably assault two or more Cybertrons simultaneously, but that wouldn't result in the infinite-birds-with-one-stone chain reaction that feeding Cybertron to the black hole supposedly would.
::::Or, of course, Ramjet is just insane and doesn't know what he's talking about. Certainly he and Vector Prime have some metaphysical disagreements that they chat about while trying to kill each other.
::::The upshot here is that I think the "one reality at a time" idea should be presented either with more qualifiers or just in the "So-and-So's Story" section. Based on past experience, my analysis would probably be smacked down as "speculation." So, in order to keep the editors happy, I suggest putting Ramjet's notions - and possibly more - under attribution...ary headings. Strictly speaking, the only things that should go in the first few paragraphs are observed events and statements of omniscient narration. Ramjet is not an omniscient narrator. Does all this sound right? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 21:06, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::If Ramjet didn't know what he was talking about, then the entire fundamental conflict upon which that story was based was just a lie, and it was wasting our time, an idea I find appalling. Casting out a pretty deliberately stated backstory because it can be perceived as realistically improbable would start a dangerous precedent for the wiki, I think. Forest Lee created this story because he wanted to hash out the way the Unicron/Primus dynamic works and to forge the multiverse into a cohesive whole. I don't think it's the wiki's place to determine for Hasbro's fiction guy what he can and can't do. (Would it make you feel any better or worse that I confirmed my interpretation of the backstory with Dan Khanna, the co-plotter? This write-up wasn't just a shot in the dark.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:55, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Likewise, the Keeper's story was Furman's "truth" when he wrote it, and when he later revised it through the mouth of Primus himself, etc., etc. And I think the article handles those various "truths" perfectly by presenting them as "here's what so-and-so said." The more I think of it, the more it seems the ONLY appropriate thing is to add "Ramjet's Story" to the list. And, as for Khanna confirming the "respawning" thing (which I assume you're referring to), I think treating author intent as canon is ALSO a bad precedent. Author intent should be NOTED, but not presented as story-fact. Especially since the Unicron/Primus story will quite likely see MORE changes as time goes on. (Hell, the most recent ad for the DD Joe/TF crossover promises "the secret origin of Unicron" or some such.) - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 22:14, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::The Keeper's story was canon until something else retconned it. The same is true here. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:19, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Granted I am not paying all that much attention, but, I think the current form of the article is okay. Jack's main concern, aside from disliking the current canonical explanation, seems to be that it's being presented more forcefully than the retconned explanations. But... I think that is valid, more or less for the reason Walky states here. The article is quite clear at the beginning of the "evolution" section that this is merely the most recent of many versions of the story. If/when it is invalidated, it can be moved. Under normal circumstances I would agree that different versions of a particular guy/story should be given equal footing, but since this "nature of Unicron" thing explicitly makes itself multiverse-spanning and overrides previous explanations, I think it should be given priority. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 05:06, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::My original concern was that I had no idea where the idea CAME from, and now that I've carefully re-read the story in question, I'm still iffy. After a straight reading, I came to a different conclusion than the author apparently intended (hence my long "this don't make no sense" rant up there). Walky claims to have inside knowledge of the author's intent, and I question how much weight that should be given. To put it another way, were the Vok canonically the Swarm before it was actually put into writing in ''Wreckers''? And, to broaden the question further, are the Vok canonically the Swarm when we're just talking about the BW 'toon? The idea of one series having "retcon power" over everything that came before it is a new one in how the fandom has always looked at TF canon. Since we've never had a George Lucas to dictate what is and isn't mainstream "truth," everything got to live in its own separate "parallel universe," and that was that. The advent of multiversal storylines in TF fiction does complicate things, and this issue is a good one for testing how exactly we deal with canon now. My take is still that the story is the only "truth," author intent is noteworthy but not "canon," and ultimately every series exists unto itself by its own rules. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 23:59, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Parts of this (the Geen 1 anime section) dont' seem very in-universe. -Derik18:34, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

== Name Origins? ==

Does anyone know from where the word Unicron came? Is it a Latin-type pun (uni = one; cron = time)? Or just an anagram of Unicorn? - [[User:NP Chilla|NP Chilla]] 22:05, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

== weirdness when printing page ==

I printed this article to read on my lunchhour, and the text blocks overlapped the pics in several areas, but it looks fine on-screen. I edited out some blank spots (thought maybe some random tabs or returns in there), and it looked better, but I saved and print previewed, and it's still showing up at 'Dark Essence' and 'Energon' sections. Anybody notice this before? Is it just my local print settings or something, or a legit problem? [[User:Evil-yuusha|Evil-yuusha]] 17:44, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

== Appearances?! ==

I would like to know the appearances of Unicron, chronilogically thoughout all mediums (shows, movies, comics, ect.)
: Take the 1986 movie and animated series appearances, put them at the front of the list, and then everything in the Fiction section files in order right after those. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:56, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

::That's pretty much the order in real world chronology yeah. If he was interested in the in-multiverse fictional chronology... well I'm not sure it's possible to chart that but it would apparently start with the Marvel comic and work out from there. Right? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 12:10, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Pretty much. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:41, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

== Cybertron Animated Continuity? ==
I understand the whole retcon'd storyline debate, but the [[Unicron#Cybertron|Cybertron]] portion of the Animated continuity section ([[Unicron#Cybertron|4.3.2.3]])seems to include zero storyline originating from the Cybertron television series. I feel there should be ''something'' from the show if we want to put this information under the heading "Animated Continuity." Maybe something like "Unicron's remains became a shiny new outfit for Megatron, allowing him to turn into some kinda nutty space-car..." etc. --[[User:Starcrunch|Starcrunch]] 18:03, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

==Minor question==
Uh, just found Unicron is in the "Category: Decepticon", is the reason that he is in the category because some of his toy labeled him as a Decepticon? Just ask for confirming. ;D --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 03:30, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
==Suicide?==
If Unicron's objective is to consume everything and rid the multiverse of it's existance, wouldn't he destroy HIMSELF after he was done?
:His objective - and this is canon - is to take care of that infernal racket so he can get some [[Void|goddamn shuteye]]. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 05:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
==Symbol==
Why are we using the silly looking symbol from Armada from this guy, when the Blendtron / Herald symbol has actually been used in the fiction and the Armada symbol has not? Not to mention, the Blendtron symbol is just much cooler. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 15:53, 9 August 2009 (EDT)

==Withered Hope/Unicron Phenomenon==
After reading [[Withered Hope]], I was curious about what caused Classics to begin overwriting the GoBots universe. This article claims it was Unicron being destroyed in the Marvel comics that caused Classics to splinter off. The footnote says the source of this info is Withered Hope, but Withered Hope does not specify beyond "Unicron Phenomenon". Does this "Marvel Comics Unicron death causes Classics" specifically come from anywhere, or is it an informed inference? Just curious! --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 22:37, 4 March 2010 (EST)

== Main image ==

So...what happened to the main image? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 10:54, 21 May 2010 (EDT)
:Oh, never mind. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 10:55, 21 May 2010 (EDT)

== Marvel TFTM adaptation ==

So where's a good spot to throw the Marvel TFTM stuff in? Unicron spews weird pink mist that sucks life dry, and this must be chronicled somewhere that accommodates imagery. I don't think we have a real, consistent framework in place on other pages for information the Marvel adaptation of TFTM... --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:33, 24 May 2010 (EDT)
:I'd go for making it part of the Marvel UK future stuff. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:38, 24 May 2010 (EDT)
::It doesn't go there, though. The Marvel UK future stuff and the adaptation take place in entirely different years... and it's not Marvel UK stuff. I'm leaning towards adding it into the paragraph about Big Broadcast. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:50, 25 May 2010 (EDT)
:::Well, when the adaptation was released in the UK, I believe they ''did'' change the year to 06. :) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 16:46, 26 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Sounds like we need another note. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:56, 26 May 2010 (EDT)

I Like The Wiki in all but on the description under pic's i would like them to stop joking around.

== Risk ==

On my Transformers [[Risk]] board game, there is a location on Cybertron named "Unicron..." Does... does this mean we should move this to Unicron (character) and create a new page for Unicron (city)? D: --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 16:10, 14 January 2011 (EST)

== Trollin' ==

Are we going to mention that, according to his Amazon Edition bio, Unicron literally "trolls the universe"? If so, what joke shall we make?

== TF Prime Unicron ==
So are we still sticking with multiversal singularity, or does the Transformers Prime version get a separate page? Is Hasbro acknowledging the multiversal singularity stuff at all anymore?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 22:25, 27 September 2011 (EDT)
: Based on [[Multiversal singularity#Creator commentary|that page]], Hasbro has said that as of the advent of the Aligned continuity, anything goes. They might retcon the retcon so that the continuities where he IS a multiversal singularity are part of a larger meta-continuity, meaning anything contradictory is just its own story. My brain hurts. --[[Special:Contributions/72.215.154.250|72.215.154.250]] 11:27, 5 April 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Unicron/toys

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72.215.154.250:

Was [[Dead End (Armada)]] included in the Universe 2008 release? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 01:11, 4 May 2010 (EDT)
:Yep. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 07:19, 4 May 2010 (EDT)

== Japanese franchise ==

My thinking is that Japan never really had anything called "Generation 1" (even retroactively) as far as I know. So Japanese exclusive toys shouldn't go under a "Generation 1" heading. It should go with what the Japanese called it. In the case of the new exclusive and the canceled Japanese toy that would be "Transformers 2010". [[Primus]]'s toy was put under [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]] for that reason. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 17:24, 24 May 2010 (EDT)
: Prime's toy was put under Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers because he has no American toy under "Transformers" or "Generation 1" or however you call it. For comparison, both Micron Legend and Armada Hot Shot toys are grouped under "Armada." When there is no American toy equivalent, that is when we use the Japanese franchise name. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:04, 24 May 2010 (EDT)

== Welcome to Transformers 2010 ==

TakaraTomy seem to pretty consistently call this thing "Welcome to Transformers 2010", including packaging. Should we put Unicron, Convoy Sleep Mode and the Sons of Cybertron set under this banner instead of the Japanese Generation 1 TF 2010 line? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:42, 18 June 2010 (EDT)

== Ark Unicron ==

Does the new deco of this mold mention the "armor" pieces on his legs at all in the instructions? And if so, what precisely are they for? It's something that's been bugging me since the figure originally came out for Cybertron, and I think if there's some sort of concept/reason/whatever behind it it's worth mentioning at least as trivia. --[[Special:Contributions/72.215.154.250|72.215.154.250]] 11:04, 5 April 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Laserbeak (WFC)

2012-04-04T18:52:22Z

72.215.154.250: /* Ratbat */

==Ratbat==
Should it be noted that in [[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)]], Laserbeak bears a striking resemblance to [[Ratbat (G1)]]?[[User:XxxOUTBURSTxxx|XxxOUTBURSTxxx]] 00:18, 20 March 2012 (EDT)
: No, because that's not true. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:24, 20 March 2012 (EDT)
::Sorry, I misstated what I wanted to say. I tried to say that he looks like a bat, not that he specifically lookds lika Ratbat.[[User:XxxOUTBURSTxxx|XxxOUTBURSTxxx]] 22:45, 20 March 2012 (EDT)
::: He doesn't really look like a bat, either. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:01, 20 March 2012 (EDT)
:::: Frankly the first time I saw him on the show I thought "Ratbat" myself, but then again Walky's right - sorta batlike in a vague sort of way (mostly the middle, larger wings), though there aren't a lot of headless, 6 winged bats either I don't think. --[[Special:Contributions/72.215.154.250|72.215.154.250]] 14:52, 4 April 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Transformer romance

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72.215.154.250: /* Suggestion for addition to the romances list */

==Romances==
Should the romance section possibly be moved from [[Female Transformer|here]] to its own article? It seems to be quite a bit large for a subsection of this one, and could reasonably be expanded upon. Some material from [[Reproduction]] might be relevant to such a new article as well. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:03, 26 December 2009 (EST)
:That might not be a bad idea... considering we have articles for stuff like relatives, reproduction, "sexuality" in the Humanization article, and robot/squishie romances, it seems like an odd omission to not really have a dedicated robot/robot romance article. Or rather, currently all of our robot/robot romance stuff is kind of scattered around in various places of said other articles. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 14:47, 26 December 2009 (EST)

:Actually, I have been wanting to write a "Romance" (because "Sexuality" is only a bit less correct term) article for quite some time, merging this article's Romance section, Robot-Fleshling romance and a bit from the Humanization article's Sexuality section into one (and adding a much-needed list of those cases in which a Transformer's interest didn't go to something alive). However, thus far I have not found the time to get to it. Would greatly appreciate to see someone else make a start. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 14:48, 26 December 2009 (EST)
:P.S., you know, if no one else does it within twelve hours, I will kick myself to finally do it. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 15:04, 26 December 2009 (EST)
::[[User:Ninjabot33/Romance|Done]]. Feel free to give advice in it's talk page 'cos it's not that great. --[[User:Ninjabot33|Ninjabot33]] 17:55, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:::You may want to join forces with Geewunling: "User:Geewunling/Romance-Sandbox" --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 18:03, 13 January 2010 (EST)

==Organization==
I've always thought that the Examples lists need some serious sorting; probably by Continuity, then alphabetically. The usage of storylinks seems kind of random too, in terms of whether they're used or not. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 17:35, 27 December 2009 (EST)

:I agree the lists ain't pretty looking as is. Sorting them by continuity is a good idea, as is alphabetically. However, the Transformer/Transformer list can't be done alphabetically because of the involvement of two Transformers who both can influence the placement. I could arrange it real-life chronically, but that puts forth the question if for consistency I shouldn't all arrange them like that.

:The storylinks had me in doubt too. On one hand, they might be redundant because the information should be on the character pages linked to anyway. On the other, they are useful in that they help anyone searching for the source finding it. My policy to adding storylinks was if there were one or more continuitioes/continuity parts in which a specific relation happened, and if (arguably) more than one, not to add a storylink. I.E., Arcee's been involved with Hot Rod in about three continuities - no need to source that. On the other hand, Clipper was with Holi only in the Victory cartoon, so she gets a link (even despite her page showing she, in fact, only appeared in the Victory cartoon continuity). However, I am no expert on all parts of Transformers, and some therefore miss a link simply because I don't know what to source it with.

:Which also brings me to the point I wish to take a few relations off the list. I remember TFA OP/Ba was at first not on the list because their relation was not necessarily of romantic nature. I am not familiar with the Animated universe enough to judge, so I'd appreciate someone who is giving their opinion. Two other uncertain cases are Armada Starscream/Alexis and BW Tigatron/Snowstalker. Plus, I already removed First One/Cloudburst because the Transformer in there never felt anything for the organic, and I think the perspective of this article should be Transformer attitude towards relations. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 02:46, 28 December 2009 (EST)
::I'd say just pick the TF in each pairing whose name comes first alphabetically and go by that, except in cases like Arcee where the character has more than one significant other. I agree that continuity is likely the main useful sorting criterion, though.
::I'd agree on removing TFA OP/BA... they never seemed to have much of a relationship outside of BA kind of flirting with ''every'' mech who seemed the least bit interested. Or it could go under a heading of "One-sided attractions", which is where things like Cloudburst and the First One could go. (I'm not sure discounting the squishies entirely makes sense... the one-sided infatuations like Alexis and the First One ''are'' sometimes plot points, after all...) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 03:03, 28 December 2009 (EST)

:::Not only cases like Arcee, but also one-sided cases can't always be done to alphabetical standards. Jackpot is the only counting component in his attempts to relations, so Airazor can't logically be made the first name.
:::Heh, I'm not overly sure about adding that kind of heading as well. Things are already looking pretty busy from my current (not yet saved) continutiy header additions. I'm not sure if it will be for the better to give specific attention to one-sided interest. But upon reevaluation, I think Cloudburst/First One should and can be mentioned in the yet-to-be-written Transformer/organic text.
:::So to be certain this is correct: There is no romantical note between TFA OP and Ba and Alexis had clear romantic feelings for Starscream rather than friendship?
:::And then I have two questions I need help/advice on. Firstly, from what I understand from SG Elita-One's page, she snuggles up to anyone with power. While I assume she and Rodimus go specific in Blitzwing Bop, c/should there be added a Thunderblast-ish note about power (perhaps linking to Optimus)? And secondly, I do feel there ought to be some mention about the straight-gay balance in TF, but I don't want it as aggressive as the Robot-Fleshling romance page currently has, yet more explained/prominent than the current Female Transformer page has. I don't know how to incorporate it. Thoughts? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 03:42, 28 December 2009 (EST)
::::You know, I honestly have no clue on Elita. On the one hand, her being a Thunderblast type certainly is a valid interpretation that would fit in with her personality and the Autobot culture.
::::On the other hand, there's really nothing to indicate that she ever liked Optimus, and if she's infatuated with Rodimus then of course she'd fawn over his leadership abilities. (Plus there's something appropriately lateral about Elita having been Roddy's girl instead of Optimus's.)
::::So... yeah. Dunno on that one. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 16:27, 31 January 2010 (EST)

==Getting near==
And that's about most I can come up with for this article. Aside from the three missing pieces of citation, I'd appreciate some second opinions on what I've been trying to accomplish. Anything I've missed, anything to be better organized or anything that could be removed - whatever before it can properly replace the loose covering the tfwiki currently features. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:11, 31 January 2010 (EST)

==Robot-fleshling talk==
What about Tigatron and Snowstalker? Snowstalker is a "fleshling," I would say, but the text of the article explicitly targets humans. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:31, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
:Hrmm...well, the article actually only refers to 'sapient' creatures, which was done on purpose to include sapient non-human aliens like the First One of Femax and Alana, but Snowstalker isn't sapient...I could see her being, um, 'interested' in his tiger mode...but romance requires equal parts from both parties. Anything between Tiggy and Snowy would be a masquerade on his part and confusion on her part. Leave it to you to bring mecha-alien-bestiality into the discussion. *shudder* I should have left the Pandora's box closed... --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 19:55, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
:: It's more like homosexual-mecha-alien-bestiality-clonecest ;) as Snowstalker was most likely Tigertron's genetic templete, white Tigers are quite rare in captivity, let alone the wild [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 21:46, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
:::First One is human. Cloudburst calls her one in that very issue. Yes, I know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:05, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Or maybe it's Landmine who does. But anyway. Humans are apparently anybody who looks human, of any size, regardless of whether they're from Earth or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:08, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

::::The female from Pzaz is also human. Or as Dreadwing put it- "Big fir a human." I think the term is beign thrown around like it's root- humanoid. So if it looks Human-y, call it a human. -[[User:Derik|derik]]

:::::Well, shit. They're all "robots" to '''us''', far be it from them to distinguish all bilaterally symmetrical, upright walking, speaking-by-means-of-meat-flaps-in-the-neck organic life forms from each other. If a pile of cardboard boxes covered in tin foil and duck-tape, an arm that welds cars together, K-9, and Optimus Prime are all "robots", then I'm pretty sure that anything that remotely resembles us is gonna be "humans" to a robot. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 04:09, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

:::There's also "The Greater Ape", that unproduced Beast Wars s1 story about Primal losing his memory and falling in love (or whatever) with a female gorilla. But I don't know if that'd go anywhere here. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 16:22, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Arcee and Daniel is a ''romance''? Bwuh?? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:14, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
:DANIEL WITWICKY
:Huhh... it's good to be together again. Arcee, I just wanna say... Arcee, I... I...
:ARCEE
:You don't have to, Daniel. I feel the same way, too.
::Gross. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:21, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
:::I don't buy the idea that their relationship is romantic in nature at all. It's more of mother/son thing, it's about Arcee being stereotypically characterized as having "maternal instincts." They are not a couple. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:25, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
::::I thought so too, until that scene. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:27, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

:::::I always figured people were making a joke when they pointed to that scene as being icky. Like Kil, I think it's just awkwardly written, and to me, has no romantic subtext at all. Daniel's too young to be interested in "romance" anyway. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 04:44, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

::::::TFTM takes place in 2005, Danial is about 10 years old, 2010 takes place in 2010, there for Danial is 15, so in at least one continuity he is old enough.
:::::::I thought you were leaving, X-Bob. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:10, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I was and mabie still am...
:::::::::I can help enforce it, if you want. It'd be pretty easy. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:32, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Daniel is clearly much younger than 15 during the course of ''Headmasters''. The years the shows are set it may say otherwise, but he is not portrayed in a way consistant with those years. He seems in that series to have not aged at all, or at most a year or two, since the events of the movie. He can't possibly be old enough. Further, the events of the Japanese series are irrelevant ANYWAY because the supposed romance occurs in The Rebirth. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 22:34, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

:::::::: Daniel seems to REGRESS about five years for Headmasters anyway. Good lord. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:38, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

We should probably put the source of the pairings in there, maybe in parentheses or something. e.g. Jazz and Marissa Faireborn (Dreamwave G1) - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 23:04, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

So what about [[Kelly (RID)|Kelly]] and [[Side Burn (RID)|Side Burn]]? I know Side Burn was hitting on Kelly's red sports cars, but she always seemed to ''think'' he was stalking her. In the last episode they show a little heart around the two of them before the credits and all. That qualify as some kind of human-fleshling romance, even if it's a misunderstanding on part of one of the characters? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 20:49, 26 February 2007 (UTC)\\

:Dunno. I suppose that stalking is considered romantic in Romantic Comedy Land. (DULL AMUSEMENT) Was there any indication earlier that he was, um, interested in her? If not, I'd say the 'equal interest from both parties' bit mentioned waaaay up there would cut 'em out, waaay out.--[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 20:59, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

*Yeah, they made it clear in one of the first episodes that Side Burn had no interest in Kelly whatsoever, just her cars. I think the scene went that her car was falling apart, Side Burn was all "NOOOO!" and tried to catch the car, leaving Kelly to fall to her death (she was saved at the last second by Prowl, though).--[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 21:25, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
:In one episode, Sideburn actually says "Hey lady, it's not you I want--it's your car!" --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 17:57, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
::Okay, so what about the time Side Burn was all hot for Disguised Red Megatron? -[[User:LV|LV]] 20:04, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

===Ariel?===

Wasn't Ariel a robot, just like Orion Pax?
[[User:JW|JW]] 18:20, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
:Yup.--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 17:47, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

===Masterforce-esque Pretenders===
Hi.

One thing which seems to be missing from the article shown is the issue of what kind of changes the [[Pretender]] process as featured in ''[[Super-God Masterforce (franchise)|Super-God Masterforce]]'' might have on the biomechs who undergo it - not least, when it comes to forming bonds with humans or other sentient organics.

If a biomech is reconstituted into an organic body - such as a human, in the case of [[Metalhawk]] and his Pretender team - would the issue not be somewhat different than if they solely remained as biomechs?

Indeed, in the first ep of Masterfore, one of the team ([[Lander]]) is in the middle of a date, when he gets a call from Metalhawk, then unceremoniously ditches his partner and rushes off to save the day.

Which would have been better had he not left her in a flash like an idiot, nor rushed into activating his Pretender armour while she could still see him!

Sigh.

But if the Pretender 'shell' in ''Super-God Masterforce'' is essentially a cybertronic life form disguised at a sub-atomic level within an organic human body, all of a sudden said life form would have to deal with all sorts of weird and unusual sensations, like having to eat, use a razor, brush one's teeth - or wonder why he suddenly finds one or more of the female (or male?) humans nearby somewhat more interesting than would have been the case prior to becoming a Pretender... --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:23, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

==Alice==
Would Alice and Sam in ROTF qualify? He didn't know she was a robot or that she was just trying to get his brain, but she did have her tongue down his throat (almost literally). [[User:Riddlerj|Riddlerj]] 12:18, 8 July 2009 (EDT)
:He thought she was human and she only seduced him to get something from him, not because she liked him. So, no. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 02:08, 1 February 2010 (EST)

==Strika & Obsidian==
There seems to be some vehemence about Strika's status (or not) as a female.

While I agree that there is no 'definitive' evidence that Strika is female, neither is there 'definitive' evidence that most TFs are male, yet we have no difficulty accepting that fact. To dismiss the (in my view) quite reasonable assumption that Strika is female as 'fan-conjecture' ignores a number of common-sense factors:

* The fact that in the cartoon she was voiced by female voice actor - there is no instance I can recall of a female TF character being voiced by a male actor or vice versa.

* That she is referred to as Obsidian's consort (rather than associate) is not insignificant. There is a nuance of meaning in the term that implies that they are not merely associates, but their relationship would be more similar to that of husband and wife, or domestic companions. The primary meaning of consort is the spouse of a monarch, which would sit well with Obsidian's perceived status.

On this basis, I think that it is reasonable to assert that Strika is intended to be a female character until there is conclusive evidence to the contrary. Perhaps she should be included in this listing, with a disclaimer about lack of formal evidence. To do otherwise would smack of legalistic hair-splitting.

:...I wasn't aware this was even in doubt. It'd require a fairly baroque misreading of Beast Machines to make Strika a dude. (BWR might change that.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
: I was also unaware. How can she not be a girl? ''Her tech spec calls her a girl.'' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:35, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
: I'd like to third this "what the hell?". --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 04:42, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

::...what do you mean fan-conjecture? He identifies her as his consort. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 06:06, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
:::http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/consort<br>
:::Of the SIX DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS, several of which are military in nature, only ONE is romantic. And again, there is absolutely fuck-all outside of one word with multiple accurate non-romatic applications to suggest any form of romance between the two. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 06:21, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

::::Really? Huh, I didn't think any of the other definitions actually fit...
::::''1. a husband or wife; spouse, esp. of a reigning monarch. Compare PRINCE CONSORT , QUEEN CONSORT.
::::''2. one ship accompanying another.
::::''3. a. a group of instrumentalists and singers who perform music, esp. old music. b. a group of instruments of the same family, as viols, played in concert.
::::''4. a companion, associate, or partner.
::::''5. accord or agreement.
::::That leaves us #1 or #4... on reflection, the way Obsidian says it really '''does''' fit #4 better. *checks TF ultimate guide* Huh, there it calls her his cohort, which again seems to support Obsidian meant she was his partner, not sexytime toy.
::::Perhaps there should be a note on the Strika page? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:10, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Er... perhaps there should be a Strika page? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:10, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

::::::Ah, I think I follow something of the "WTF?" I have created - the conjecture is not about Strika's status as a female, but about the nature of the relationship with Obsidian implied from this. Apologies for this misreading.

::::::Having said this, some fundamental points remain - yes, there are 6 definitions of consort, but these are not equal or interchangeable - the most common or accepted usage of the term is almost always the one defined first.

::::::If the creators of Beast Machines had intended a more neutral relationship like associate, partner or companion, they could easily have used those words, and thus have prevented this current debate. However, the fact that they chose to use the word consort does make certain implications far more reasonable. There have been few (if any) female TFs introduced who did not have some manner of romantic or intimate entanglement. Since there is little doubt of Strika's gender, it is reasonable on this basis to assert that Obsidian and Strika were in an interdependent relationship similar to a marriage. Whether this included physical intimacy is neither here nor there, since many marriages can be founded on mutual attachment without intimacy. We can debate the nature of romance until the cows come home, though this wiki is probably not the best forum for this.

::::::So, relationship or not? --[[User:Sofaman|Sofaman]] 12:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

::::::::It's been awhile since I watched BM... (I hope to get the DVD set for Christmas) but did Obsidian ever show any affection for Strika? Any sign or romantic involvement aside from calling her his consort? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:10, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::: Not really. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:11, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

==Edit revoke==
Why? [[User:Keeyong|CKY]] 06:37, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

Can't answer that question quite as I don't watch TFA, but I've removed that pairing from the list some time ago when behind it came "but it's unclear if their relation is of a romantic level", or something like that. I would guess by that and the reversion that it's currently unclear if they are ''romantically'' involved or just friends. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 07:27, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

==Suggestion for addition to the romances list==
I propose [[Override (Cybertron)|Override]] - [[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]]. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 12:47, 31 August 2009 (EDT)
: Despite my jokes to the contrary, I really don't think so. There wasn't any romance between them at all, just notions of competition. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:53, 31 August 2009 (EDT)
:: There's a lot of fan art out there that would show this but since Override was originally male I don't think there would be an intentional relationship between the two. Still I do like this idea.--[[User:Ninjabot33|Ninjabot33]] 16:58, 25 November 2009 (EST)
Key word. Fan [[User:Eire]] 22.15 Nov 25 09 (UTC)
:That was my point. My ideas ar often influenced by watching too many tribute or couples videos on youtube. My one suggestion is [[Arcee (Animated)|Arcee]] - [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] but I'm not sure that really had enough in the fiction other than him worrying about her safety. Also if [[Mega]] counts as a female transformer then her and [[Giga]]. --[[User:Ninjabot33|Ninjabot33]] 17:18, 25 November 2009 (EST)
::We're kind of going for romances that have actually been stated as such or at least strongly hinted at in the fiction. Because trust me, many of the popular "fan ships" have pretty much zero fictional support. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 17:26, 25 November 2009 (EST)
:::Go read the [[Transformer romance#Transformer - organic|Transformer - organic romance section]] not too many aren't just slightly hinted at or are just fan ships. --[[User:Ninjabot33|Ninjabot33]] 17:43, 25 November 2009 (EST)
::::Er... those are all pretty obvious and/or the subject of in-fiction innuendo, actually. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 17:57, 25 November 2009 (EST)
:::::Sorry to say this but I don't understand what you just said. I'm not sure anything was really hinted at between [[Snowstalker]] and [[Tigatron]] at least and still not all of them could be considered as official ones. But lets get back on the matter at hand now OK? I don't feel like arguing too much about what relationships are really hinted at or not. --[[User:Ninjabot33|Ninjabot33]] 18:07, 25 November 2009 (EST)
::::::Um. That ''is'' the matter at hand. We only include romances with strong in-fiction support/hints on both lists. Ratchet, for instance, doesn't show any potentially romantic feelings towards Arcee other than caring about and being protective of her, and by that criterion you have even more evidence for him and Omega Supreme than you do he and her. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 18:19, 25 November 2009 (EST)
:::::::Didn't I just say I didn't want to argue about it anymore? Just leave it! When I said about Ratchet and Arcee I just thought they seemed a lot like a likely pair but if you don't want that on the list fine. Can we just stop this now? I'm getting tired. --[[User:Ninjabot33|Ninjabot33]] 18:28, 25 November 2009 (EST)
::::::::I was discussing the matter at hand that you brought up. If you didn't want to discuss that, then you shouldn't have brought it up. Just sayin'. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 18:57, 25 November 2009 (EST)
:::::::::When I said "matter at hand" I was reffering to Fembots instead of Robot-fleshling romance. OK? Also you were bugging me about how it didn't have actual evidence in the fiction which is what I already said. --[[User:Ninjabot33|Ninjabot33]] 10:21, 26 November 2009 (EST)
::::::::::Like I said, the same criteria applies to both lists, fembot-mech romances as well as human-TF ones. You made some suggestions, I pointed out why they didn't quite fit. That's the point of Talk pages (one of them anyway): you make a suggestion for the article and see if other folks agree. Don't get so upset if people don't. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 10:35, 26 November 2009 (EST)
:::::::::::Fine but you could have just said there isn't enough fictional evidence and had it over with but instead you made it sound kind of insulting. Can we talk about something else now? I don't think there's enough room left to discuss this any further.--[[User:Ninjabot33|Ninjabot33]] 10:41, 26 November 2009 (EST)

I have a suggestion: Ransack and the cute scooter he dumped. {{storylink|Landmine (episode)}} I don't know where to put that since they didn't say if she was a transformer or not. --[[User:Ninjabot33|Ninjabot33]] 12:27, 2 February 2010 (EST)
:I think the best guess from the context is "Transformer", so I'll put it there. Oh, and while I finished up this article alone, I took several items you added to your sandbox-list, so credit where credit's due. But... you may want to have your sandbox outright deleted now that you don't need it anymore. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 12:58, 2 February 2010 (EST)

Heh, the note about Saber and Clipper made me wonder... while not strictly romantic, is it worth noting that Cliffjumper seemed rather flustered talking about fembot curviness in "Eye in the Sky"? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:52, 2 February 2010 (EST)
:I am not sure on that one. I wish to do an update on the Female Transformer page soon now that this is out of the way, and I'd guess that sort of information is slightly more suited for an appearance/definition/intro section of that article. Not that this information can't be on both, but I wouldn't know where to place it in this article. Or do you have a suggestion? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 12:58, 2 February 2010 (EST)
::Actually, now that you make me think of it, perhaps Female Transformer would be a better spot (as CJ perhaps seems more flustered by Crasher's shape than by Crasher herself). --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:42, 2 February 2010 (EST)
:::Yeah, in that case, making a connection to get it suitable for inclusion here is going to be tough. I definitely see value for it in the aforementioned article (section). I kinda like the idea of morphing the "Appearance" section into a "Definition" section to include male vs. female attitude. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 13:58, 2 February 2010 (EST)

May I ask where a [[Sari Sumdac]] - [[Afterburn]] would go (specified of course) since Sari is part robot and part human but also because Afterburn wasn't really y'know alive. --[[User:Ninjabot33|Ninjabot33]] 13:48, 28 February 2010 (EST)

:My suggestion is TF - TF with a footnote we don't know whether her crush comes from her Cybertronian half or is unrelated to it. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 17:00, 28 February 2010 (EST)

Is the lack of a [[Ratchet (Animated)]] - [[Arcee (Animated)]] an oversight or am I the only one who sees a relationship here? [[User:Gearbox|Gearbox]]
:I think the problem is that they only knew each other for a little while before she went into a coma for a few million years. They didn't really know each other long enough to have a romance, per se. Mutual attraction, certainly, but not romance. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:37, 6 June 2010 (EDT)

Should someone mention [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]]'s creepy obsession with [[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]] being "pleased" with him? Like in [[:Image:Forced Fusion Skybytedelusion.jpg|this image]]. Or isn't that romantic looking enough? --[[User:Ninjabot33|Ninjabot33]] 13:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)

[[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] - [[Kita (G1)|Kita]] {{storylink|Spotlight: Cliffjumper}}? --[[User:Ninjabot33|Ninjabot33]] 16:41, 20 October 2010 (EDT)

...Mrs. Darby seems to have a thing for Optimus, if [[Metal Attraction]] is any indication. That title takes on a whole new meaning if she wasn't kidding. --[[Special:Contributions/72.215.154.250|72.215.154.250]] 10:27, 12 March 2012 (EDT)

==The Twins==

Are you sure that their dialogue reflects some kind of sexual attraction towards their respective vehicle modes? [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 10:22, 28 September 2011 (EDT)

:Frankly, I don't believe so. I hear gear heads talk about their rides like that sometimes. Besides, the Twins are jackasses. --[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 16:53, 16 December 2011 (EST)
:: Rewatching the scene; to me, it sounds like they're going to use their vehicle modes to ''pick up'' members of the opposite sex (or whatever their equivalent.) [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 17:28, 16 December 2011 (EST)

==Cliff/Arcee?==

Is the potential relationship hinted at between Cliffjumper and Arcee in ''Prime'' worth noting, or too conjectural at this point? It seemed like a pretty heavy hint to me, but at the same time since there's no proof... --[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 16:55, 16 December 2011 (EST)

Talk:Soundwave (WFC)

2012-03-11T20:38:03Z

72.215.154.250: /* Noticed on the deluxe toy */ new section

== Triple Changer? ==

Ok, we all know that Soundwave can transform into a Spy Rig-class Cybertronian truck, right? Well, right before his boss fight against Optimus and his team, he is briefly seen in the form of a Cybertronian device similar to a tapedeck, much like his original G1 counterpart's Earth mode. Does this mean he's a Triple Changer or is that just an interface mode like when you use the mounted turrets? --[[User:Cydra|Cydra]] 21:19, 4 July 2010 (EDT)
:As per our standards, we do not classify anyone as a "Triple Changer" (proper noun) unless they are specifically labeled as such. Lots of TFs have third modes who are not Triple Changers. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:31, 4 July 2010 (EDT)

== Toy Image ==

I'm not going to switch out the caption just 'cause I feel like it, but every time I look at the image, all I can think of is, "BECAUSE YOU ARE HEADCRAB SOUNDWAVE!"--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 19:09, 15 July 2010 (EDT)

==Cybertron Adventures==

Soundwave discovers that the Autobots have infiltrated the Datacore. Megatron sends him and Barricade to take care of the intrusion. The two speed out, and Soundwave must navigate a highway overgrown with Dark Energon crystals while dealing with swarms of Aerialbots before they can shut off access to the Datacore. An Autobot Destroyer blocks Soundwave's path and brings the roof down, forcing him to take an alternate route. he makes his way to a security station and downloads the information on the Autobots' advance, radioing Barricade to meet him at the assigned coordinates. When Soundwave arrives, though, he finds Barricade in the middle of a shooting gallery. The Autobots are soon joined by an aerial Destroyer, but the pair make short work of it. Soundwave intercepts a data download but cuts it off quickly, and races to intercept the escaping Autobots. Weaving his way through Dark Energon crystals and moving walls (huh?), he reaches the intercept point in time, causing Ironhide and Bumblebee to skid out of control... and right into a fusion blast from Megatron.
This is here because I cant figure out how to put this on the page-- [[<noinclude>User:</noinclude>Kuptrion]]

== Other Figures ==

Doesn't WFC Soundwave have an RPM figure and a Stealth Force figure? --[[User:Spongezilla|Spongezilla]] 4 August 2010 (EDT)
:I'm pretty sure that RPMs and Stealth Force are exclusive to the movie universe. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:14, 4 August 2010 (EDT)
::Hm, they used his Video game robot mode, and Inferno appears to be from the Classics Universe. Gah, the 2010 line is all screwed up. -- [[User:Spongezilla|Spongezilla]] 00:07, 5 August 2010 (EDT)
:::I'd say the Stealth Force figure is the movie guy, even though he has the WFC robot mode and the Animated vehicle mode. His bio talks about how he used to be a satellite and how he's just come down to Earth for the first time. That points to movie continuity to me. (Meanwhile, Stealth Force Silverstreak and Hound are clearly the G1 guys.) ((This should probably go on the Stealth Force page.)) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:48, 5 August 2010 (EDT)
::::Well, given how the RPM/Speed Stars image at the bottom, and the package photography on the Stealth Force toy all represent WFC Soundwave... I'd say they're toys of this Soundwave and not ROTF Soundwave. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:23, 9 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::You're well late, it's discussed on [[Soundwave (ROTF)]]. Still, what with [[repurposing]], we can discuss it here too. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 13:37, 9 October 2010 (EDT)

== Voice Actor ==

If he doesn't have one then there's no point having it there. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 11:29, 29 November 2010 (EST)

== Quote ==

Could we not consider Starscream and Knock Out's exchane in Sick Mind for Soundwave's main quote? It fits with Soundwave's role as... well, the eyes and ears of the Decepticons, as the spy.

"That blasted Soundwave sees and hears everything."
"The eyes and ears of the Decepticons." {{unsigned|72.190.7.46}}

==toy picture==

It's here http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/transformers-prime-soundwave-wheeljack-and-cliffjumper-at-nycc-173564/

It's "reining in", you guys. You ''rein in'' a horse. Reigning is something a monarch does.

==Shockwave (DOTM)==

Soundwave (Prime) is silent, he doesn't show any signs of sentience when someones talks to him, except moving his head to say no or yes, he just stands and watches.
He's apparently dangerous : Airachnid seems to have given the autobots the hell of a run in previous episodes, and he owned her.
Shockwave in the movie : the same. ( well apparently in prequel comics he kills and kills and kills. )
Should we point the similarity in the Notes ? Is it on purpose that two of the most popular characters EVER bear similarities or is it a coincidence ? [[User:SnipinScientist|SnipinScientist]]
:Well... no. "Soundwave doesn't speak, just like Shockwave in the Dark Of The Moon movie" is really not a noteworthy thing. There's lots of Transformers who don't speak. That doesn't make them identical/homages/noteworthingly similar. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:32, 18 February 2012 (EST)
: Decepticons who don't speak in the live-action movies are a dime a dozen. I suppose we could also note that Soundwave (Prime) is just like Movie Blackout, Bonecrusher, Ravage, Scorponok, all seven/eight/nine Constructicons, Sideways, all the protoform warriors, Crowbar, Crankcase, Hatchet... but at that point we're just being friggin' ridiculous, wouldn't you say? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:13, 18 February 2012 (EST)
::Bonecrusher, Demolishor, Mixmaster and Rampage did speak.--[[Special:Contributions/199.60.104.18|199.60.104.18]] 23:04, 22 February 2012 (EST)
:::That is not the point. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:55, 22 February 2012 (EST)

== Season 2 ==
Is it true that Soundwave is going to start talking in season 2 of ''Prime''?[[Special:Contributions/71.162.102.155|71.162.102.155]] 23:11, 23 February 2012 (EST)
:Well is he?[[Special:Contributions/71.255.172.244|71.255.172.244]] 16:33, 1 March 2012 (EST)
::You know as much about it as we do. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:59, 1 March 2012 (EST)

== Go-Box ==

His Go-Box as it appears on message boards etc [http://tfwiki.net/goboxes/SoundwavePrime.png is blank]. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:50, 8 March 2012 (EST)

== Noticed on the deluxe toy ==

The paint apps on the nose of the vehicle mode look an awful lot like eyes, and the heels of the robot mode feet hinge just under it like a beak. In a sense, his vehicle mode seems to be at least a visual homage to Laserbeak, since Prime Laserbeak looks more like a bat than anything. Worth noting in trivia? --[[Special:Contributions/72.215.154.250|72.215.154.250]] 16:38, 11 March 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Blast Off (FOC)

2012-02-21T19:45:02Z

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== Design homage? ==
Is his design supposed to be a reference to something specific? For some reason I think I've seen a very similar vehicle mode on another character before, particularly the larger, round engine with multiple fins turning into the shoulders. --[[Special:Contributions/72.215.154.250|72.215.154.250]] 14:45, 21 February 2012 (EST)

Talk:Metroplex (Cybertron)

2012-02-21T18:27:26Z

72.215.154.250:

How about we continue the theme of using the Planet Map art for the Cybertron Planet leaders? Does anybody have a good scanner to scan in Metroplex's bio pic (drawn by [[Don_Figueroa|Don]] IIRC)? My scanner is busted :( --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:00, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
:Monz sent me his scan of it, I just haven't gotten around to clipping the main art from the backdrop. I find incomplete text boxes behind art to be highly distracting. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 06:24, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
::Cool, I tried searching for a scan last night, managed to find one (and its more of a photo of the map). But the close up of Metro had a watermark over the top of Metro, so didn't feel right using it (plus it would look dumb). Oh, on a side note, I think we should replace some of the images seen here and there on this wiki that have the originating site URLs on them. The fact the pics are on here might annoy their owners. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:58, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

== Work mode ==

Anyone got a better pic of Metroplex's Work Mode? This one's mistransformed. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:52, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:Is it? The torso's shortened, the shoulders are slid forward, the legs are shortened, and the lower body's spun around 180 degrees. Everything seems to be in place. What do you see that's wrong?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 15:27, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::The lower body isn't spun 180 degrees. Only the lower legs are. That's the part that's wrong. Note the minicon ports are now on the inner part of his legs. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:53, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

== "Vehicle" Mode ==

Is it essentially just him bending over, in a, erm..."doggy position"? Or am I just seeing things?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 07:59, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
:It's an easy mistake to make, but no, he's sitting down with his legs tucked up against his chest, not on all fours. His elbows reverse so his arms can support him.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:43, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

== Repurposing ==
Since this guy's alt-mode isn't anything like a building, base, city, or anything of the like, is there another character he more closely resembles? If it weren't for the head, I'd probably paint mine up like Omega Supreme. Still might if I can ever figure out a good way to scratch build one. --[[Special:Contributions/72.215.154.250|72.215.154.250]] 13:27, 21 February 2012 (EST)

Starscream (Movie)/toys

2011-12-19T20:18:34Z

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Hoo hey, [[Starscream (Movie)|'''Starscream''']] has a buttload of toys!

{{charstubtoys|Pics, details, etc.}}

==Toys==
===Transformers (2007)===
====Legends Class toys====
[[Image:Movie Legends Starscream.jpg|right|250px|thumb|A gold paint job can't hide the lameness.]]
*'''Starscream''' (Legends Class, 2007)

: Legends-class Starscream is a highly simplified, low-cost version of Starscream in his F-22 Raptor body. As such, he has a greatly compromised transformation sequence due to the smaller parts count, with limited articulation and detailing. He's also the bronzest F-22 Raptor Starscream toy there is.

: This mold was also used to make ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]].

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[[Image:Movie Allspark Legends pack.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Tiny toys are tiny. And they don't do Starscream justice.]]
*'''Battle for the Allspark''' (Toys'R'Us exclusive multi-pack, 2007)

: A Toys R Us exclusive, this six-pack of Legends class figures contains unmodified toys of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]], [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]], [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], Starscream and [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]].

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[[Image:Movie-toy_Legends_StealthStarscream.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Back in black!]]
*'''Nightwatch Optimus Prime vs. Stealth Starscream''' (Legends Allspark Battles two-pack, 2008)

: The previously released Legends-class Starscream toy is redecoed predominantly black and silver, somewhat resembling ''Generation 1'' [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]. Oddly enough, the paint applications are identical to the regular toy. He comes with a redeco Legends-class [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] in his Nightwatch color scheme.

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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:MovieProtoform Starscream toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Gold Plastic Syndrome just waiting to happen.]]
*'''Protoform Starscream''' (Deluxe, 2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''MD-05'''
**''Accessories:'' Gun with missile and flame attachment

:Based upon the "Protoform" (Cybertronian) appearances of the Transformers in the movie, Protoform Starscream transforms into his "entry" mode Cybertronic rocket thing. This mode somewhat resembles a Cybertronic spaceship, with a visible bridge between the two dorsal fins. A flame decoration piece fits onto the back of the "vehicle" over the missile projectile, creating the illusion of a flaming comet's tail . The bottom of the vehicle has small wheels to roll the toy across smooth surfaces. In robot mode, Starscream marginally resembles previous Starscreams, mostly G1 Starscream, with the large turbines on his chest, wings and vents on his legs. Due to his extensive use of ball joints, he has excellent articulation.

:Starscream is armed with a spring-loaded missile launcher that fires the previously mentioned projectile cast in the same bronze color as his body. Alternatively, the flame decoration can be fitted onto the end of the barrel. The flame can also be placed onto the missile, using both at once. However, in some cases, the flame does not have a snug fit on the missile and falls off easily. This makes firing the missile rather awkward and makes the gun look extremely goofy.

:This toy also has an [[Automorph Technology|Automorphing]] feature, as most of the figures in the main line do. Pushing his head back during transformation will move his shoulder pieces back into place, while moving the shoulders forward will make the head pop back up.

: It's also entirely possible that this figure will eventually suffer from [[Gold Plastic Syndrome|GPS]], as the bronze plastic it is cast in has the same characteristic swirling exhibited by older figures that rapidly deteriorated. However, newer materials and processes may prevent the toy from ever seeing a single crack form. It is highly suggested that this toy not be painted or altered in any way to maximize its lifespan.

[[Image:ProtoformStarscreamProto.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Brought down from second place.]]
: The card back [[stock photo]] of Protoform Starscream features a completely different deco, with silver replacing all the bronze. It also has a different, earlier head sculpt. (See [[Starscream (Movie)/toys#Notes|Notes]] below)

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[[Image:FusionClusterOptimusStarscream.jpg|thumb|300px|Great Cybertron! I look '''delicious!''']]
*'''Protoform Starscream Fusion Cluster Edition''' (C3xHobby Convention exclusive Deluxe, Japan 2007)
**''Accessories:'' Gun with missile and flame attachment

:An extensive redeco of the Protoform Starscream mold that was exclusively available at the Japanese C3xHobby Convention in August of 2007, and later offered by [[e-Hobby]] in limited quantities. Most of the body is made out of transparent orange plastic, while orange and yellow paint are used on the front end of the "entry" mode, mimicking the heat effects of sudden atmospheric entry. The flame attachment is made out of clear ''blue'' plastic, with the tail end being covered in ''gold'' paint.

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*'''Gold Protoform Starscream''' (Deluxe, 2008)
**''Accessories:'' Gun with missile and flame attachment

:This gold [[Vacuum metallizing|vacuum metallized]] Protoform Starscream figure was featured as a [[Lucky Draw figure|Lucky Draw]] giveaway (along side similarly gold vac-metal versions of Voyager class Optimus Prime and [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#LuckyDrawProtoform|Protoform Optimus Prime]]) in the December 2007 issue of ''TV Magazine''. Released in 2008, only 5 pieces were made.

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====Voyager Class toys====
[[Image:Movie Voyager Starscream toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Shake hands with danger.]]
*'''Starscream''' (Voyager, 2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''MD-08'''
**''Accessories:'' Six missiles

: The Voyager-class version of Movie Starscream transforms into an officially-licensed [[wikipedia:F-22|Lockheed-Martin F-22 Raptor fighter jet]], albeit in beige.

:Pushing the fighter along a smooth surface causes the missile-launching barrels to rotate and fire their projectiles, which can also be stored in the black flip-up braces on the launchers. During transformation, pushing up upon the canopy fuselage piece activates Starscream's [[Automorph Technology|Automorphing]] gimmick, which pushes panels out of the torso, wings and stabilizers. In robot mode, Starscream is mostly faithful to his movie CGI model, except for being bulkier around his chest, lacking engines on his back and having the very large Gatling cannons serve as his arms (a facsimile of his much slenderer weapons from the movie). Interestingly, his projectile missiles are sculpted to resemble fingers, should users choose to keep them loaded while Starscream is in robot mode. An interesting note is that [[Swindle (Movie)|Swindle's]] (or Camshaft's) hands, when detached, make a snug fit in between the three main cannons; if you're feeling sillier, ''Legends'' [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron's]] shoulder does, too. Go on, try it yourself, yes, we'll wait...

:This toy was later retooled and [[Redeco|redecoed]] into Movie [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]], ROTF [[Ramjet (Movie)|Ramjet]] and, ROTF [[Skywarp (ROTF)|Skywarp]].

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*'''Battle damage three-pack''' (Sam's Club exclusive three-pack, 2007)

:A three-pack, exclusive to Sam's Club stores, consisting of redecos of Voyager Class [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and Deluxe Class [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]], both with a battle damage deco, and an unchanged Voyager Class Starscream.

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[[Image:Starscream target.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"The first G1 fan who complains gets a minigun... to the face."]]
*'''Starscream''' (Target exclusive Voyager-sized toy, 2007)
**''Accessories:'' Six missiles

: An extensive redeco of Voyager class Starscream available only as a Target [[exclusive]], this version is [[Redeco|redecoed]] in a color scheme based upon ''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'' [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. This version of Starscream shares the retooled version of this mold with Movie Thundercracker, giving Starscream a new, vaguely G1-ish head sculpt. The packaging for this toy explains that Starscream altered his appearance following his escape at the end of the film in order to avoid detection.

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[[Image:Starscream Vardia red.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Pinkscream]]
*'''Starscream Vardia Red Model''' (Toshiba exclusive Voyager-sized toy, 2007)
**''Accessories:'' Six missiles

: In a joint venture by Paramount Home Entertainment Japan and electronics giant [[wikipedia:Toshiba|Toshiba]], Starscream Vardia Red Model is an exclusive redeco of Voyager Starscream only available with Toshiba's new ''Vardia'' RD-A301 HD DVD recorder. The package also comes with an HD-DVD copy of ''Transformers'', five HD DVD-R and five DVD-R discs.

:Starscream Vardia Red Model is '''extremely''' red, with some gold, a little black and Toshiba ''Vardia'' markings on his hull. With the player costing 100,000 yen at the time, this may be the most expensive ''Transformers'' exclusive to be released in relatively large quantities.

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[[Image:Movie DeepSpaceStarscream toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I'm Starscream, and I can breathe in space. ]]
*'''Deep Space Starscream''' (Target exclusive "Premium Series" Voyager, 2008)
**''Accessories:'' Six missiles

:A Target exclusive (But appeared in European retail in 2009), Deep Space Starscream is a redeco of the first version of Voyager class Starscream, based upon the colours used by [[Industrial Light & Magic]] on Starscream's CGI model (instead of the totally made up and inaccurate tan colouring on the previous release). As such he is metallic silver with complementary greys in fighter mode, including the 'First Fighter' (FF) squadron markings indicating he is an F-22 Raptor from [[wikipedia:Langley_Air_Force_Base|Langley Air Force Base]]. In robot mode reveals gold paint inside his chest detailing and red for circuitry detailing. His eyes are painted film-accurate red, but the rest of the [[Light-piping]] that makes up the back of his head is left uncolored, making the glowing eye effect no longer work while STILL retaining the miscolored bronzed glass color that the clear plastic was molded in. If one wanted to restore the light piping, though, the paint is fairly easy to remove.

: Deep Space Starscream is presented in 'Premium Octagonal' packaging very similar to Robo-Vision Optimus Prime. Even though Hasbro officially considers him as part of the Premium Series, this is not indicated anywhere on the packaging.

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[[Image:Movie FAB Starscream.jpg|right|300px|thumb|You are the Dragon Booster Artha!]]
*'''Battle Blade Starscream''' (Fast Action Battler, 2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''QC-02'''

: [[Fast Action Battler|Fast Action Battlers]] "Battle Blade" Starscream transforms into a somewhat superdeformed F-22 Raptor, simplifying the overall design to the point of his feet noticeably sticking out the aft of the fighter, and has a truncated transformation sequence reminiscent of past Transformers such as ''Generation 1'' [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] and ''Cybertron'' [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]]. Rather than having a separate weapon, he only has a claw-like blade that flips over the right hand (hence "Battle Blade") and non-removable missiles in the palms of his hands.

: This toy was later redecoed as [[Ramjet (Movie)|Claw Slash Ramjet]].

: There is a Korean [[Knockoff|fake]] of this model going around, under the name of "Latent Spider". Fortunately no real spiders have been found latent inside the toy.

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====Other toys====
*'''Starscream''' (Little Red Rooster Meal, 2007)

:One of five toys that was available at Red Rooster, an Australian based fast food chain. This kids meal toy is a black F-22 Raptor with a silver canopy that transforms by simply flipping the jet around to reveal the gray robot mode underneath, pulling down the landing gear and legs, and standing him upright.

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===Revenge of the Fallen===
====Legends Class toys====
[[Image:Starscream ROTF Legends toy.jpg|right|thumb|300px|So I wake up with a hangover and find all these tattoos all over me. Damn parties.]]
*'''Starscream''' (Legends, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''EZ-04'''

:Legends class Starscream is a redeco of [[#Legends Class toys|2007's Legends class Starscream]], the main difference being a mostly single main colour scheme (compared to 2007's rather random colour choices) and the ''Revenge of the Fallen''-specific Cyberglyph tattoos.

:For some odd reason, his card back depicts how to transform him from his alt-mode to his robot mode; as all Legends are packaged in robot mode, wouldn't robot-to-vehicle work better?

::*''[http://tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/LegStarscream/starscream.htm More information on Revenge of the Fallen Legends Starscream at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:TargetLegendsROTFStarscream.jpg|thumb|300px|Bumblebee, Optimus Prime and Megatron all got new Legends molds for the sequel, but me? No, not STARSCREAM. *sob*]]
*'''Smokescreen''' vs. '''Starscream''' (Legends 2-pack, 2010)

:Starscream is a redeco of 2007's Legends class Starscream. He came packaged with [[Smokescreen (Movie)#Legend|Smokescreen]] as a [[Target]] [[exclusive]] as part of the [[NEST Global Alliance]] [[subline imprint]]. His paint scheme appears to be inspired by the [[Kmart]] exclusive Voyager class [[#Nebular|"Nebular Starscream" redeco]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/2010/Decepticon/LegStarscream/starscream.htm More information on Target Legends Starscream at TFU.info]''

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====Voyager Class toys====
[[Image:ROTF Voyager Starscream.jpg|right|300px|thumb|At long last, I have fingers! And tattoos! Odd.]]
*'''Starscream''' (Voyager, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RD-02'''
**''Accessories:'' 2 projectiles

:''[[Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' Voyager class Starscream is far more accurate to the movie model in both modes than the previous movie's Voyager mold, with a more dramatic transformation scheme to boot.

:In robot mode, Starscream has two arm-mounted, spring loaded missile launchers sculpted to resemble his [[wikipedia:M61_Vulcan|M61A2 Vulcan 20 mm rotary cannons]]. These weapons end up underneath and facing backwards in vehicle mode. He also has a [[Mech Alive]] gimmick, which is linked between his head and chest; when you turn his head, the gears in his chest spin.

:He has amber light piping for his eyes, but they've been painted over in red.

[[Image:ROTFtoy-StarscreamVoyager-popoutlaunchers.jpg|left|thumb|150px|I had more joints!]]

:According to the [[stock photography|stock photos]] of the hand-painted [[prototype]] (seen at left), Starscream's hands originally had a joint down the middle of his palms, possibly to facilitate in hiding them in fighter mode. His arm-mounted cannons were also originally separate parts from his forearms, jointed to move back and forth, again possibly to hide them in fighter mode. However this was [[design change|changed]] for the final toy, with the hands now molded as one piece and unable to be hidden in vehicle mode, and his cannons' details (including the joints) simply molded directly onto his arms. His knee caps were also originally a separate movable piece and not joined to his upper leg. It is assumed that all this was done for cost cutting. His packaging call-outs (excepting Europe) still claim that he has "pop out missile launchers," despite this gimmick's removal. The toy's [[instructions]] include a superfluous "flip down hands" step, and depict the missile launchers extended with partially-folded hands when describing the missile-launch action.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/Starscream/starscream.htm More information on Revenge of the Fallen Voyaget Starscream at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:KMartROTFNebularStarscream.jpg|thumb|300px|A redeco of Starscream as Starscream? Well, that's novel.]]
*'''Nebular Starscream''' (Voyager, 2010)
**''Accessories:'' 2 projectiles

:A [[redeco]] of the new-mold ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Voyager class Starscream, Nebular Starscream is a "powered up" version of Starscream (with his packaging going so far as to promote his "exclusive powered-up paint job"). He was [[exclusive]] to [[Kmart]] stores in North America.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2010/Decepticon/NebularStarscream/starscream.htm More information on Nebular Starscream at TFU.info]''

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====Fast Action Battlers====
[[Image:Starscream ROTF FAB toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Kids, tattoos are awesome, get some NOW!]]
*'''Sword Slash Starscream''' (Fast Action Battler, 2009)

: Sword Slash Starscream is a redeco of the 2007 Battle Blade Starscream, with the plane parts colored gray and covered in cyberglyphics and the robot parts colored bronze. His flip-out blade is now purple.

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====Gravity Bots====
[[Image:ROTF GravityBots Starscream.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Some toys have hands or maybe a head sticking out of their alternate modes, but Starscream has WHOLE LEGS.]]
*'''Starscream''' (Gravity Bot, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''GB-03'''

: As a [[Gravity Bot]], this Starscream features no articulation at all, but relies wholly on a gravity-based [[autotransformation]] gimmick. When laid down on a flat surface, Starscream will transform into a [[super deformed]] F-22, while standing him on his feet again will switch him to robot mode. His cockpit is now a metallic blue instead of the amber/orange.

: His unique aircraft mode (compared to the line's land-based vehicles) gives him a unique transformation, with his wings folding inward and revealing his arms, and the cockpit rotating, flipping down, and revealing his head. Quite awesomely as a result, he is the only Gravity Bot ''not'' to use [[Kibble#.22Faux-parts.22|fake kibble]] for his chest. Go Starscream!
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====Robot Replicas====
[[Image:ROTF RobotReplicas Starscream.jpg|right|150px|thumb|"Hey guys, like my tattoos?"]]
*'''Starscream''' (Robot Replica, 2009)

: Starscream sacrifices transformation for the sake of accuracy. The figure about 5 1/2" tall and features multiple joints based on the revoltech design.
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===Transformers (2010)===
====Legends Class toys====
[[Image:TF2010toy-VictoryofTheFallen.jpg|right|thumb|350px|Starscream finally gets what he always wanted- validation from Megatron.]]
*'''The Victory of The Fallen''' (Kmart Exclusive Legends 5-pack, 2010)

:Starscream is a redeco of the original 2007 mold in a gunmetal color with a yellow cockpit canopy. He comes with redecos of [[The Fallen]], [[Megatron (Movie)/toys|Megatron]], [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys|Optimus Prime]], and [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]].
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====Voyager Class toys====
[[Image:TF2010_Starscream'sAssault_toys.jpg|thumb|300px| The [[Shelfwarmer| shelves need warming]], and that's where we come in!]]
*'''Starscream's Assault''' (Figure two-pack, 2010)
**''Accessories:'' 2 projectiles

:This [[Walmart]]-[[exclusive]] two-pack is based upon the scene in ''Revenge of the Fallen'' where Starscream pursues [[Seymour Simmons]], [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] and [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] in Egypt. The Voyager class Starscream toy features a much brighter plastic colour and has "battle damage" scorch mark paint decos. Mudflap features a weathered, sandblasted deco.
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====Leader Class toys====
[[Image:ROTF-toy leader Starscream.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"NO ONE DEFEATS [[Bill Rawley|BILL RAAAWLEY"]]]]
*'''Starscream''' (Leader, 2010)
**''Accessories:'' Cannon, 2 missiles

:Like the various figures released earlier, Leader-class Starscream transforms into an officially licensed Lockheed-Martin F-22 Raptor fighter jet, decoed in a gunmetal-like gray and covered in Cybertronian tattoos to more accurately reflect his on-screen appearance in ''Revenge of the Fallen'' than his Voyager-class toys. In robot mode, either of Starscream's hands can fold down to accommodate a spring-loaded cannon that fires one of two included projectiles; both missiles and the cannon can be stored via pegs on his back. In Raptor mode, the launcher stores in a space on the underside, and can be flipped out to fire his missiles from underneath. Starscream also features two flip-out, non-firing weapons on his forearms: a cannon resembling an M61 Vulcan on the right, and two generic missiles on the left.

:Starscream's primary gimmick in this size is the addition of electronic lights and sounds. Pulling down on his canopy in robot mode opens chest panels and his mouth and produces one of two phrases: "Decepticons will crush the Autobots!" and "No one can defeat Starscream!" in the version released in the United States, and simply "Decepticons!" and "Starscream!" in the version released in rest of the world, including most of the version released in Canada, Mexico, and Latin America. Additionally, the canopy activates LEDs which light up Starscream's clear, red eyes and various other portions of clear, amber plastic in his chest. During transformation, a button is activated, causing the toy to play a four-note version of the transformation noise. In Raptor mode, Starscream's lights and sounds are activated by a Decepticon sigil-covered button on the top of the jet. In addition to lighting the canopy and turbines, this button plays two sounds: either generic jet engine noises or Starscream's voice saying either "No one can defeat Starscream!" (US) or simply "Starscream!" (International).

:An important step was left out of the instructions concerning how to transform Starscream to robot mode. A flap attaches from the fuselage to the cockpit section. To disconnect this part, the cockpit window has to be lifted using notches on the side. Otherwise, you cannot flip the front of the jet forward.
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====Activators====
[[Image:Activators_MovieStarscream.jpg|thumb|300px| Starscream, you're "kawaii" now, so I have to warn you about the [[fandom| fangirls.]]]]
*'''Starscream''' (Activator, 2010)

:[[Activators]] Starscream is a small toy with cutesified proportions in both robot and F-22 modes. His transformation is greatly simplified, with most of the jet parts just hanging off his back in robot mode. Like all Activators, Starscream features button-activated [[autotransformation]] from jet to robot. While the card's photography shows Starscream as having rolling wheels for landing gear, the final has the landing gear molded in one piece with the legs, probably due to budget cuts.

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===Masterpiece===
[[Image:Masterpiece_Movie_Starscream.jpg|thumb|300px|I took a bath!]]
*'''Starscream''' (2010)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''MPM-1'''
**''Accessories:'' Missile launcher, 2 missiles

:''[[Masterpiece]]'' Starscream is a redeco of Leader Class ''Transformers'' (2010) Starscream without the Cybertronian glyphs on his body, and instead has an extensive, detailed paint scheme that matches his appearance in the [[Transformers (2007)|first live action movie]] and the F-22 Raptors of the [[United States Air Force|USAF]] First Fighter Wing from [[wikipedia:Langley_Air_Force_Base|Langley Air Force Base]]. Starscream comes with a mini-comic by [[Simon Furman]] and [[Guido Guidi]], titled ''[[Unite for the Universe issue 1|Unite for the Universe]]''.
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===Dark of the Moon===
====Cyberverse====
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[[Image:DOTM_CyberverseActionSet_Starscream.jpg|thumb|300px|I shall call him...MINI-SCREAM!]]
*'''Starscream / Orbital Assault Carrier''' (Cyberverse Action Set, 2011)
**''Series:'' '''1'''
**''Number:'' '''002'''
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''CV03'''
**''Accessories:'' missile launcher, missile, [[Chicago]]
:A brand-new [[Cyberverse]] Legion-class mold, Starscream comes with an [[Orbital Assault Carrier|“Assault Craft”]] similar to the kind the Decepticons use in the film. Starscream himself is much more movie-accurate, better proportioned, and well articulated, capable of rotating his thighs, bending his arms, and raising his shoulders.

:Like the previous movie's Voyager figure, Starscream's hands stick out of the back of the vehicle mode. Also, while landing gear is molded on both the undercarriage and the nose of the jet, the odd layout of robot parts in vehicle mode means they can't all rest on a flat surface at once.
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[[Image:DOTMCyberverseBumblebeeStarscreamPack.jpg|thumb|300px|This only serves to painfully reinforce how much better a toy the ''Cybertron'' figure is.]]
*'''Bumblebee / Starscream''' (Cyberverse 4-pack, 2011)
**''Accessories:'' Gun

:[[Exclusive]] to [[Toys"R"Us]], this four pack contains two Bumblebee and two Starscream Cyberverse Legion toys. Cybertronian Starscream is a redeco of [[Cybertron (toyline)|''Cybertron'']] [[Legends Class]] [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]], while the other Starscream is a paint-heavy redeco and retool of the 2007 [[Movie (toyline)|''Transformers'']] Legends class toy, partially cast in translucent plastic and painted with grid lines, presumably to simulate a [[trans-scan]] effect. This Starscream also comes with a redecoed version of ''[[Robot Masters (franchise)|Robot Masters]]'' [[R-Blade]]'s [[R-Blade#Robot Masters 2|gun]], which can be held in his newly retooled left hand.

:The Starscreams come packed with a retool of [[Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|''Revenge of the Fallen'']] Legends Class [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#BeeStarscream|Bumblebee]] and a redeco of ''[[Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Legends Class]] [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#Universe (2008)|Bumblebee]].

:An early name for this set was "Cyberverse Evolution", which is still used by some websites (including the Australian and United Kingdom Toys"R"Us sites), but that name does not appear anywhere on the packaging.

:Interestingly, his airbrushed [[packaging]] [[stock photography]] depicts him as lacking the retooled hand, while the regular stock photo to the right is flipped, showing him wielding his weapon with his right hand, instead of his left. Even more interestingly, his back wings are [[Misassembly|swapped]].
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[[Image:DOTM_Cyberverse_Legion_Starscream.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Starscream''' (Cyberverse Legion, 2011)
**''Series:'' '''1'''
**''Number:'' '''013'''
**''Japanese ID number:''

:This is a redeco of the ''Dark of the Moon'' Legion class Starscream that was first available in the Orbital Assault Carrier Action Set. The deco on this release does away with the Cybertronian tattoos and replaces them with a normal F-22 Raptor colour scheme, much like Starscream's appearance in the 2007 ''Transformers'' live-action movie.
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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:DOTMtoy-StarscreamDeluxe.jpg|right|thumb|300px|I brought a knife to a shrink ray fight.]]
*'''Starscream''' (MechTech Deluxe, 2011)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''DD02'''
**''Accessories:'' 2 MechTech Null Ray Cannons/Swords

:''Dark of the Moon'' Starscream is a brand-new sculpt, transforming into a surprisingly accurate F-22 Raptor. In spite of being at a much smaller scale than previous Voyager-class Starscreams, his parts hide much better into his vehicle mode. His incredibly flexible arms have joints at the shoulder, in the middle of the upper arm, elbow, and wrist, allowing them to neatly fold up for transformation, as well as scratch his own back.

:He comes with two [[MechTech]] weapons, with one weapon being static and the other being functional. Both weapons are double-sided, featuring a "[[Null-ray]] cannon" barrel (which looks like a machine-gun barrel) on one side and a "sword" on the other. Pushing forward the scope on the functional weapon will cause the sword weapon to extend, increasing its reach. The peg and cannon barrel on the static weapon correspond to the peghole and the hole of the scope of the functional weapon, meaning his null rays can combine to form a double bladed weapon that's way taller than he is. This means that he is one of the few Deluxe figures to have a MechTech weapon that can remain locked in both modes. Awesome.

:There are a grand total of 6 MechTech holes, with two under the wings, two under the rear stabilizers, and two on Starscream's forearms. The two under the tail allow the weapons to be stored on the robot mode's back.

:This mold was later redecoed into [[Thundercracker (Movie)#Dark of the Moon|Thundercracker]] and [[Skywarp (ROTF)|Skywarp]]. His MechTech weapons were [[retool]]ed into [[Darksteel]]'s weapons.

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====Voyager Class toys====
[[Image:Starscream_DOTM_Voyager_Target.jpg|right|thumb|300px|I'm bleeding on the inside.]]
*'''Starscream''' (Voyager, 2011)
**''Accessories:'' 2 projectiles

:A [[Target]]-[[exclusive]] redeco of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Starscream, he is now grey with red detailing and more subdued, silver tatoos. Early assortments had the red parts cast in solid plastic (pictured to the right), but a [[running change]] shortly there after corrected this, and replaced all the red parts with translucent plastic.

:He comes packed with a comic book by [[IDW Publishing]], ''[[Transformers: Starscream]]''.

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====Robo Power====
=====Activators=====
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[[Image:DOTM_Activators_Starscream.jpg|thumb|300px|i wanna played leader ''i wanna play leader waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa'']]
*'''Starscream''' (2011)

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=====Bash Bots=====
[[Image:DOTM_BashBots_OptimusPrimeVsStarscream.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Optimus Prime Vs Starscream''' (2011)

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=====Robo Fighters=====
[[Image:DOTM_Robofighters_Starscream.jpg|thumb|300px|He may be small, but he knows a good [[Swindle (G1)|source.]]]]
*'''Starscream''' (2011)
:This smaller edition of Starscream doesn't transform, instead having a gimmick where if you slide down the button on his chest, it activates his "attack mode", wherein his chest opens up and his wings swing upward, revealing weapons. His only articulation consists of [[swivel joint]]s in his shoulders.

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==Merchandise==
===''Transformers'' 3D Battle-Card Game===
*'''Protoform Starscream''' (3D Battle-Card, 2007)
**''Card number'': '''22'''

: Protoform Starscream is a 24-point "Uncommon" piece in the [[3D Battle-Card Game]]. Constructed of punch-out pieces from plastic cards, he can be assembled into either a robot or a [[transition form]]. The card uses the same construction as [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Protoform Bumblebee]].

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[[Image:3DBattleCard_Starscream.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Children's Card Games On Jets, In 3D!]]
*'''Starscream''' (3D Battle-Card, 2007)
**''Card number'': '''24'''

: The second Starscream card can be converted into his jet mode, and is a 43-point "Rare" piece. This card construction was first used by live-action movie [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]], [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]] and [[Jetfire (Movie)|Jetfire]] in the original set, and later Generation 1 [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] and [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] in the "Energon Wars" expansion.

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===Transformers (2007)===
[[Image:Starscreambarrelrollblaster.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Eat your heart out, Peppy.]]
*'''Starscream Barrel Roll Blaster''' (2007)
**''Accessories:'' 4 Nerf N-Strike foam missiles

:This version of Starscream's altmode turns into not a robot, but a robot '''fist''' holding a two-barreled blaster. The guns in this form fire [[Nerf]] N-Strike-sized foam missiles.

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====Lunchables====
[[Image:Starscreamlunchables.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I come with crappy chicken.]]
* '''Starscream''' ("Pocket Transformers" toy prize, 2007)

:Free inside specially marked boxes of Oscar Meyer Lunchables dinners, Starscream is one of six "Pocket Transformers" toy prizes. Molded in green, his tablet unfolds to reveal a picture of his robot mode inside. His name is also spelled out, across his feet in this mode.

: This mold was also used to create the lunchables figure for [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] and [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]. A similar mold was used to create the Lunchables figure for [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus]], [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] and [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]], though with the Autobot symbol sculpted in instead of the Decepticon one. Each iteration of this mold was made with a different color of plastic.

:The Lunchables website code engraved on his back is "MISLEAD."

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====Radio Shack====
[[Image:Movie_StarscreamMicroFlyer.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Starscream Micro Flyer''' (2007)

:The radio controlled Starscream Micro Flyer was made by Interactive Toy Concepts for Radio Shack, and consists of a foam F-22 Raptor with two small battery-powered propeller engines which allow the little plane to soar relatively high into the air. This toy can operate on 3 channels.
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===Burger King===
*'''Starscream''' Burger King free toy (2007)

:A non-transformable version of Starscream, cast primarily in chalk-grey plastic. It can rotate its arms at the shoulder. The toy's main gimmick, though, is the wheel in his chest. Striking the wheel causes it to advance to the next slot, revealing damage to Starscream's torso. A second tap reveals even more damage. Despite being a free pack-in toy, the figure is surprisingly well molded, having well defined head parts and the twin afterburners on his back that even the Voyager version lacks. It even has six fingers (or rather, four fingers and two thumbs) on each hand!

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====Basic Fun====
*'''Articulated keychain''' (2009)

: Produced by [[Basic Fun]], this keychain is a likeness of Starscream's robot mode with articulated arms, legs, head, waist, and a keyring sticking out of his ass.

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*'''Mini Figural Clip-Ons''' (2009)

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===Robot Heroes===
[[Image:Rhstarbee.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Packaged with Bumblebee holding the Allspark. TWICE.]]
*'''Armored Bumblebee vs. Starscream''' (2007)

:Robot Heroes Starscream is sculpted in a crouching pose, possibly inspired by his landing when talking to Megatron in the film. He has the standard Robot Heroes articulation of both shoulders and his neck, however the pre-posed nature means his right arm is really more useful as a support than a usable joint.

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[[Image:RH Movie Bumblebee Starscream.jpg|right|300px|thumb|It's my turn to use the Rubik's Cube, Bumblebee!]]
*'''Bumblebee vs. Starscream''' (2008)

:This version of Starscream is almost a prelude to the previous one, as he's now sculpted in a touching down pose as opposed to a full land. Like the previous mold, it has articulation at the shoulders and neck. Unfortunately, the left arm is lifted straight out to side, allowing him to rotate the arm but not pose it.

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[[Image:Robotheroesspringerstarscream.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Who's ''that'' dude?]]
*'''Autobot Springer and Starscream''' (2009)

: Starscream is part of the first wave of ''[[Revenge of the Fallen]]'' ''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'' figures and is packaged versus [[Springer (ROTF)|Springer]]. A [[redeco]] of the first Movie-style Starscream, he still has articulation at the shoulders and neck, and now sports [[Cyberglyphics]] tattooed on his body.
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[[Image:RobotHeroes_BattlefortheAllspark.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Bumblebee... the cube... he just can't get away!]]
*'''Battle for the Allspark''' (2009)

:Packaged in a set depicting the battle in [[Mission City]] with [[Brawl (Movie)|Decepticon Brawl]], [[Ratchet (Movie)|Autobot Ratchet]], [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], plus new figures of [[Sam Witwicky]], [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] in truck mode and Bumblebee in vehicle mode, this is the first Starscream Robot Heroes figurine in vehicle mode.

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===Revenge of the Fallen===
====Missile Mania Board Game====
*'''Starscream'''
: Starscream is one of eight characters featured in the [[Missile Mania]] board game, represented by a small standee adorned with artwork of the character.

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====RPMs - Robot Powered Machines====
[[Image:ROTF-toy_RPM_Ironhide_vs_Starscream.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Slim-hide vs. Stomach Arms]]
*'''Ironhide VS Starscream''' (2009)
**''Series:'' '''Battle Series'''
**''Number:'' '''07 of 08'''

:As a ''[[Robot Powered Machines]]'' "Mini-Vehicle", Starscream is a small, super-deformed F-22 with wheels underneath. His robot mode is also sculpted on the plane's underside, with his chest-canopy rather cleverly acting as a third wheel. Starscream was only initially available in a two-pack with [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]].

*'''Starscream''' (2009)
**''Series:'' '''Allspark Series'''
**''Number:'' '''01 of 04'''

: A new mold, "Allspark Series" Starscream is a non-transforming vehicle with the character's robot mode sculpted on the underside. It has more realistic F-22 proportions than the previous RPM Starscream, and has joints in its wings to fit into the packaging better.

: Starscream is painted in silver, with black for his cockpit, nosecone, wings, and tail-fins. He features white-bordered purple stripes containing electrical designs on his tail-fins and wings, with [[Decepticon]] [[insignia]]s on his tail-fins, as well as a large purple "shield" with electricity emanating from the Decepticon insignia in the center located on his fuselage. His robot mode is completely silver except for his red eyes. Amusingly, his vehicle uses [[Generation 1]] Decepticon insignias!

: So far, this has only been released in Asia, in countries like the Philippines.
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*'''Starscream''' (2010)
**''Series:'' '''Combat Series 2'''
**''Number:'' '''01 of 04'''

: "Mini-Vehicle" Starscream is a single-packed identical release of the version released with [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] described above.

====Figure Collection====
[[Image:ROTF-Merchandise Figure Collection Starscream.jpg|thumb|right|150px]]
*'''Starscream''' (2010)
**''Accessories:'' Stand
:The [[Figure Collection]] edition of Starscream is based on his [[#Fast_Action_Battlers|Fast Action Battlers toy]].

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====McDonald's====
*'''Starscream''' (Happy Meal, 2010)
**''Accessories:'' 3 cardboard discs

:Part of the 2010 [[McDonald's]] Revenge of the Fallen promotion, Starscream does not transform but is able to shoot three cardboard discs stored in his back instead. Starscream features red [[light-piping]], an unexpected feature for a fast food promotional toy, and can move his arms up and down. He was only available during week 4 of the promotion, and came with an instruction sheet that doubles as an ad for [[McWorld]], featuring an exclusive code for the website.

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===Christmas Ornament===
*'''Starscream''' (2010?)

:This Christmas ornament has a picture of Starscream on one side. When you split apart the onament, red Autobot and purple Deepticon symbol candies are inside.
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===Speed Stars===
[[Image:SpeedStars_RoadAssault_Starscream.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]
*'''Starscream''' (2010)
**''Series:'' '''Road Assault'''
**''Number:'' '''01 of 04'''

: ''[[Speed Stars]]'' Starscream is a redeco of Allspark Series Starscream, and is colored in tan desert camouflage with his black ''Revenge of the Fallen'' markings.

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[[Image:SpeedStars_CyberHunt_Starscream.jpg|thumb|right|300px|The ''other'' [[Starscream (SG)|bizarro]] Starscream. Or Thundercracker. Whatever.]]
*'''Starscream''' (2011?)
**''Series:'' '''Cyber Hunt'''
**''Number:'' '''0? of 04'''

: "Cyber Hunt" Starscream is a redeco of the previous Allspark Series toy in purple and black with red stripes along his wings. This toy was given away free as part of a Daily Mirror promotion in the UK.

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====Stealth Force====
=====Mini Changers=====
[[Image:SpeedStars_StealthForce_MiniChangers_OptimusPrimeVsStarscream.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Optimus Prime Vs. Starscream''' (2011)

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[[Image:SpeedStars_StealthForce_MiniChangers_SideswipeVsStarscream.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Sideswipe Vs. Starscream'''' (2011)

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=====Deluxe???=====
*'''Starscream''' (2011)

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==Notes==
* The earlier head design of his protoform toy is featured on (what else?) his protoform body in IDW's movie prequel comics. It's since become Starscream's standard "pre-Earth" face, likely out of consistency.

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Sunstorm (Animated)

2011-11-07T21:54:57Z

72.215.154.250: /* The Cool comic */

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|''The name or term Sunstorm refers to more than one character or idea, all of which are honorable and excellent. For a list of other meanings, feel free to see [[Sunstorm (disambiguation)]].''
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:''Sunstorm is honored to be a [[Decepticon]] from the mesmerizing [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]] [[continuity family]]''.

[[Image:SycophantStarscreamABTCpt1.jpg|thumb|right|250px|"You are a slimy, despicable, rat-hearted, green discharge of a 'Con, aren't you?"]]

'''Sunstorm''', the '''Sycophant Starscream''', is but a humble type of [[Starscream clone (Animated)|clone]], based on the [[Starscream (Animated)|original and most brilliant Starscream]], as well as his flattering, "suck-up" nature incarnate. He will offer his fawning platitudes to anyone within eyesight. All he asks is to offer his meager energy-absorption powers in the services of that amazing genius, Starscream, and he can also beg to please you by blinding your enemies with flashes of brilliant light. Needless to say, that amazing genius Starscream likes him a lot.

Though he would never compare his abilities to [[Skywarp (Animated)|other clones]], this overriding personality trait does not seem to affect his performance as a warrior too badly. He just heaps praise on his deserving victims for their efforts, even when he's somehow winning. He does, however, have a knack for talking when he should be shooting.
Of course, he's not nearly as awesome as [[you]], wonderful article reader. ''You're so cool!''

{{quote|Oh, great and mighty [[Autobot]]! It is an honor to merely bask in your majestic pre-''daaagh!''|—The Sycophant tries his shtick on an unimpressed [[Omega Supreme (Animated)|Omega Supreme]], "[[A Bridge Too Close, Part II]]"}}

==Fiction==
===''Animated'' cartoon===
:''Superbly talented voice actor:'' [[Tom Kenny]] (English), [[Jin Yamanoi]] (Japanese), [[Stefan Staudinger]] (German), [[Daniele Demma]] (Italian), [[Alexis Quiroz]] (Latin American Spanish)

[[Image:SycophantStarscreamCloseUp.jpg|thumb|left|200px|My own wiki article? Oh, I am so humbled.]]

Sunstorm humbly succeeded the fabulous [[Clone number 2716057|Clone #2716057]] in Starscream's clone army. His suck-up nature was even more prominent, as he basically kissed the aft of everyone he came in contact with. {{storylink|A Bridge Too Close, Part I}}

During the space bridge battle, Sunstorm freed the briefly captured but still majestic [[Ramjet (Animated)|Ramjet]] and just barely managed to get a pair of [[stasis cuffs]] on handsome [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]]. He made sure to tell the Autobot how ''impressed'' he was with Prowl's use of the cuffs, so much so that he had to try the move out himself.

[[Image:Sycophantscream-ABTF.jpg|thumb|200px|All you caption writers are so awesome.]]

He quickly capitulated to the vastly superior Megatron as soon as the tenacious Starscream was beheaded, and even sucked up to mighty [[Omega Supreme (Animated)|Omega Supreme]]... before getting smashed into the dirt and blasted for it. What an honor! {{storylink|A Bridge Too Close, Part II}}

When the [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|superbly idiotic Sentinel Prime]] made a deal with the [[Lockdown (Animated)|great Lockdown]] to capture the other Decepticons that remained on Earth in exchange for probably some fantastic upgrades, Sunstorm was one of the first three he captured, though Sentinel received the credit for it. Sunstorm was eager to tell the Autobots about how fantastic his capture was, but Sentinel Prime cut him off by clamping his mouth shut. {{storylink|Five Servos of Doom|Five Servos of Doom}}

[[Image:TFAni Decepticon Air BoxScream ConeScream.jpg|thumb|left|That Swindle certainly has excellent taste!]]Due to Sentinel's wonderful navigation skills, a jolt from a passing energy field reactivated [[Swindle (Animated)|Swindle]], who most generously proceeded to free Sunstorm and the other Decepticons. He joined in the battle against Sentinel, the newly-arrived [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]], and the ace fliers [[Jetfire (Animated)|Jetfire]] and [[Jetstorm (Animated)|Jetstorm]], before the Autobots trapped him and the remaining Decepticons in a block of ice. How clever!

During the process, Swindle gave him a [[Sunstorm (G1)|familiar-looking]] helmet to help distinguish him from the Liar. Such generosity! {{storylink|Decepticon Air}}
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===''The Cool'' comic===
[[Image:StarscreamCloneArmyAttack01.jpg|thumb|right|200px|A most appropriately named comic, if I must say so!]]

Sunstorm joined the rest of his talented cohorts in the [[Starscream clone (Animated)|Clone Army]] in battling their worthy adversaries, [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]] and [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] for the magnificent Decepticon [[Space Bridge]]. In fact, their adversaries were ''so'' worthy, the two sworn enemies had to join forces just to defend themselves from the Clone Army! {{storylink|The Cool Episode 7}}

When the better man, Megatron, handily defeated the clones, Sunstorm immediately agreed to follow his command to battle that more than worthy adversary, [[Omega Supreme (Animated)|Omega Supreme]]. Sunstorm and the clones were quickly vanquished by Omega's fabulous arm cannon. {{storylink|The Cool Episode 8}}
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===Toy bio===
Sunstorm is a raving madman bent on destruction, a living battery that can absorb any type of energy. ([[Sunstorm (G1)|Wait a minute...]]) Only honorable Autobot [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] has the knowledge to build a device that can stop him! {{storylink|#Toys|Sunstorm VS Autobot Ratchet}}
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==Toys==
===Animated===
[[Image:Sunstormratchetanimatedtoys.jpg|300px|thumb|right|What a flattering color choice was chosen for me, if I may say so.]]
*'''Sunstorm VS Autobot Ratchet''' (multipack, 2009)
**''Accessories'': 2 missiles

: A Target [[exclusive]] [[redeco]] of [[Starscream (Animated)|Voyager-class Starscream]], Sunstorm transforms into a futuristic, forward-swept wing fighter jet based upon the [http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/s37/ Su-47 (S-37) Berkut Experimental Fighter] and the [http://www.new-un-spacy.com/macrossplus/yf-19.htm YF-19 "Alpha One"] from the series ''[[Wikipedia:Macross_Plus|Macross Plus]].'' This shape allows him to have his faction symbols right-side-up on his wings in robot mode. He features a pair of spring-loaded missile launchers, available in both robot and jet modes. His gauntlets also feature pop-out non-firing "blasters".

: This mold was also used to make [[Skywarp (Animated)|Skywarp]] and [[Thundercracker (Animated)|Thundercracker]].

: Sunstorm comes with wise [[Activators]] [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]], who appears to be identical to his individual release.

::* ''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/Sunstorm/sunstorm.htm More information on Sunstorm at TFU.info]''

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*'''Decepticon Sunstorm''' (Voyager, 2010)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''TA-35'''
**''Accessories'': 2 missiles

: In Japan, Sunstorm was available on his own. Like all Japanese ''Animated'' toys, he features some metallic chrome detail and full-color Decepticon insignias. Sunstorm's chrome consists of shiny gold paint on his canopy and wings.

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[[Image:AnimatedLegendsSunstormClearOrange.jpg|thumb|300px| Ooh! Making me orange-flavored was an exquisite decision! I'm delicious!]]
*'''Sunstorm Clear Orange Version''' (EZ Collection, 2010)

: A redeco of Legends Starscream in translucent orange plastic (with some opaque orange parts). He was available from select Yamada Electronics stores in Japan, given away for free to customers who purchased ''Animated'' merchandise totaling at least 3,000 yen... '''or''' he was available from Amazon Japan with the purchase of ''Animated'' [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]]. The promotion for him began at both stores on [[July 24]].

:This mold was also used to make Starscream Clear Purple Version, [[Thundercracker (Animated)|Thundercracker]] Clear Blue Version, [[Skywarp (Animated)|Skywarp]] Clear Purple Version, [[Ramjet (Animated)|Ramjet]] Clear White Version, and [[Starscream Clone Black Version]]
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==Notes==
* Though the beautiful [[Slipstream (Animated)|Slipstream]] refers to him as "a suck-up", according to fantastic character designer [[Derrick J. Wyatt|Derrick Wyatt]], his official model-sheet name is "Sycophant Starscream".

*[[Clone number 2716057|A previous sycophantic clone]] did not last as long as the humble Sunstorm. Such a pity!

* Sunstorm's set of colors are generously provided by the devout and formidable [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] Sunstorm, from whom he also gets his name and every single aspect of his toy bio, brilliantly omitting every single sycophantic aspect of his personality.

* In "[[Decepticon Air]]", Sunstorm receives a boxy helmet reminiscent of a Generation 1 [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]], so selflessly donated by that cunning, shrewd devil of a business-bot, [[Swindle (Animated)|Swindle]].

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Sunstorm''' (サンストーム ''Sansutōmu'')

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