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Transformers: Wings Universe

2010-09-21T18:35:36Z

72.79.209.160:

The '''Wings of Honor continuity''' is a ''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'' [[Continuity|universe]] based loosely on [[The Transformers (cartoon)|the original cartoon]].<ref>[http://www.transformersclub.com/members/transforum/msgs.cfm?msg=125826&forum=22 Collectors' Club forum thread] in which Pete Sinclair says the Wings of Honor continuity "is VERY similar to the original G1 toon, though it is different enough to allow us some leeway in the overall story telling. [...] Scourge will have always been in his BotCon 2009 body, Hot Rod in his Universe Legends body and so on. As time goes on there will be more subtle, and not so subtle, differences."</ref> It has been depicted in [[Fun Publications]] comics and prose stories, the first of which was titled "[[Wings of Honor]]".

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!align=center bgcolor=#6699CC|'''<font color="white">Wings of Honor continuity</font>'''
|- align="center"
|| [[Wings of Honor|''Timelines'' #4]] | [[The Coming Storm: Part 1]] | [[The Coming Storm: Part 2]] | [[Flames of Yesterday]] | [[The Coming Storm: Part 3]] | [[The Coming Storm: Part 4]] | [[A Team Effort]] | [[The Coming Storm: Part 5]] | [[The Coming Storm: Part 6]] | [[Generation 2: Redux]]
|}

==Overview==
Most of the Wings of Honor stories are set in [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]'s distant past, at the outbreak of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]]. They establish that there was an [[Autobot]] [[Cybertron Elite Guard|Elite Guard]] at that time, from whose winged insignia the title is derived. Some action also occurs in a nebulously modern setting, but so far only as a framing device. In one of those instances, [[Nexus Prime]] declares that this universe has some sort of importance to him and his quest, though he doesn't know exactly what.

In broad strokes this continuity hews to the universe of the original cartoon, but the series creators have declared that it will diverge in some details. For example, the fact that the young Elite Guardsman [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] is surrounded mostly by characters who never appeared in the cartoon helps avoid problems of relative age... but there are still a few [[Combaticon (G1)|questionable]] [[Female Autobots|cases]].

==Timeline==
Writer and editor [[Pete Sinclair]] has given the following timeline for events in the Wings of Honor continuity:<ref>[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?s=6bc9835fefee676c843f5d49aa34a646&showtopic=67730&st=80&p=1489241&#entry1489241 Allspark.com post by Pete Sinclair]</ref>

* 9 million years ago
:*"[[Wings of Honor]]" (flashback)
:*"[[War Dawn]]" (flashback)
* 8,999,990 years ago
:*"[[The Coming Storm: Part 2]]"
:*"[[Flames of Yesterday]]"
:*"The Coming Storm" parts 3 & 4
:*"[[A Team Effort]]"
:*"The Coming Storm" parts 5 & 6
* 8,999,990 years ago through 2007 AD
:*Seasons 1, 2, 3, and "[[The Rebirth]]"
* 2010 AD
:*"Wings of Honor" (present)
:*"[[The Coming Storm: Part 1]]"
:*"[[Generation 2: Redux]]"

==Creative team==
Writing duties on the "Wings of Honor" portion have shuffled between [[Rik Alvarez]], [[Forest Lee]], [[Pete Sinclair]], and [[Jesse Wittenrich]] (or combinations thereof), while art has been drawn by [[Guido Guidi]], [[Dan Khanna]], and [[Andrew Griffith]]. "Generation 2: Redux" was written by [[Greg Sepelak]] and [[Trent Troop]], with [[Robby Musso]], [[Frank Milkovich]], [[Evan Gauntt]], Trent Troop, and Jesse Wittenrich on various art duties.

==References==
<references />

[[Category:Continuities]]
[[Category:Generation 1]]

Aequitas

2010-09-20T19:36:39Z

72.79.209.160: /* Notes */ References only work if you also add the tag.

{{factions|autobot}}
:''Aequitas is an [[Autobot]] supercomputer from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]]''.
[[Image:Aequitas.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Don't tell Perceptor, but the password is "password."]]
'''Aequitas''' is a giant non-sentient computer that serves as the judge and jury for the [[Autobot]] prison [[Garrus-9]], its culpability drive devoted entirely to calculating... guilt. In the courtroom of its chamber, it is given the evidence and testimony surrounding a case, then judges the suspect's very [[spark]] to see if it's found wanting, and whether or not the prisoner deserves rehabilitation or the mercy of spark extraction.

It also has one serious hell of a password-bypass security system that makes one hope the bosses are really good at not forgetting their passwords.

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
The many trials of ''Autobot'' war criminals using Aequitas sickened everyone who heard them, to the extent that [[Tyrest (Autobot)|Chief Justice Tyrest]] ruled that the records would be kept secret until after the war. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 5|Last Stand of the Wreckers #5}}

After discovering that Garrus-9 had fallen to the Decepticons, [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] had [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] relay a new objective to [[Springer (G1)|Springer]]: Aequitas, a name both 'bots recognized. Prowl didn't want the Decepticons getting access to a potential propaganda goldmine like the records of countless Autobot-committed atrocities. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 5|Last Stand of the Wreckers #5}} {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 2|Last Stand of the Wreckers #2}}

Springer then brought it up again while debriefing the [[Wrecker]]s on their mission objectives. After the first objective of rescuing the trapped Autobots from the now [[Decepticon]]-occupied prison, the second objective was not to kill the ringleader [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]], but to find Aequitas, as it also being trapped among the Decepticons was a Very Bad Thing. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 2|Last Stand of the Wreckers #2}}

[[Image:LastStandoftheWreckers5-atrocityafteratrocity.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Guilty on 300 counts of [[zombie]] making.]]

After the Wreckers infiltrated the prison, [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]]'s team made their way down to Aequitas's chamber, where it was protected by walls rendered impenetrable by vibrating at a special frequency. [[Topspin (G1)|Topspin]] and [[Pyro]] were curious as to what Aequitas was—since only Perceptor seemed to know—wondering if it was "a [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]-killer [or] a spark eater".

Perceptor, meanwhile, wondered why the Decepticons hadn't been trying to break in, only to discover they ''had'' been, by using a dismembered and comatose [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] as a "living lock pick". After detaching Maximus from the door and inputting the appropriate access codes, the chamber door opened to reveal Aequitas to the curious Wreckers. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 3|Last Stand of the Wreckers #3}}

When Perceptor revealed that Aequitas was a supercomputer, and that their mission was to download its contents, the other Wreckers were all less-than-impressed and advocated simply leaving before the Decepticons broke in. Still, Perceptor moved to initiate the download in spite of the protests, explaining to a questioning Pyro the computer's purpose.

Unfortunately, he soon hit a snag—the computer was password-protected, and everyone who knew the password was out of commission. Instead the computer would have to be rebooted via its alternate method—that of lethal spark donation from a completely willing and non-coerced subject.

Since Perceptor was needed to operate the computer, and Topspin and [[Twin Twist]]'s branched spark meant that a sacrifice from Topspin would kill them both, that left Pyro and [[Ironfist]]. Pyro was decidedly unhappy about this, pointing out that he had better and more glorious plans for his eventual death than being a redshirt sacrifice to a computer, and that Ironfist should do it, as he had, as a laboratory-bound inventor, led less of a "worthy" life.

[[Image:LastStandoftheWreckers4- IronfistAequitasupload.jpg|right|thumb|200px| Warning: downloading Aequitas may turn you into a handsome prince.]]

After a moment of personal reflection, Ironfist was willing to agree to be the sacrifice. Until Topspin spoke up, revealing that he knew through his link that Twin Twist was about to be tortured to death elsewhere anyway, so he would rather have them go out with a measure of dignity.

The computer accepted Topspin's spark and rebooted itself. Perceptor then downloaded the contents of the computer into Ironfist's brain and wiped the computer's hard drive, and the knowledge of the truth in Aequitas's banks shook Ironfist's psyche.

By then, the Decepticons were about to break into the chamber. Perceptor noted that Aequitas could be used to activate the deterrence chips and kill all of the ex-prisoners, which would include their pursuers... and [[Impactor]]. It was a put to a vote: Perceptor voted yea, Pyro voted nay, and Ironfist used Aequitas's data to pass judgment by proxy that yes, Impactor deserved to die. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 4|Last Stand of the Wreckers #4}}

Although Verity convinced the Autobots not to use the deterrence chips, Ironfist used Aequitas' information to figure out the remote detonation code. Loading a gun with thousands of the chips which Springer used to shoot Overlord, Ironfist used the code to detonate the chips. The backlash from this rendered Ironfist unconscious. When he came to, Overlord was defeated. On the trip back to meet up with Ultra Magnus, Ironfist created a single copy of all of Aequitas' information. Sadly, Ironfist died from a terminal injury incurred in a lab accident, and the copy was handed over to Prowl. After a discussion with Ultra Magnus on the possible damage that could be caused if the Autobot rank-and-file knew what sort of monsters lived in their ranks, Prowl was left alone; Magnus said he thought it would be a disservice to both of them if he considered Prowl likely to destroy the copy and looked at it himself first.

Then Prowl contemplated ''exactly'' what to do with the Aequitas dataslug, and started to apply some...pressure {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 5|Last Stand of the Wreckers #5}}

==Notes==
*Did Prowl ''really'' destroy the data chip or did he preserve it after all? Even Roche and Roberts don't know! <ref>[http://tfarchive.com/community/showpost.php?p=690984&postcount=228 Fan account of the Auto Assembly 2010 Q&A]</ref>
*[[wikipedia:Aequitas|Aequitas]] is a Latin word referring to the concept of fairness between individuals, as well as the name of the Roman goddess of fair trade and honest merchants.
*This wouldn't be the first time in Transformers fiction a [[The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 2|computer required someone's life force be sacrificed to it in order to activate it after the primary method was lost]].

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Computers]]
[[Category:Generation 1]]
[[Category:MacGuffins]]
[[Category:Transformer culture]]

Talk:Bullets

2010-09-20T12:59:07Z

72.79.209.160: /* Rung's patients */

==Roulette==
I seem to remember First Aid pegging Roulette as a male in this story, which might mean it's a different Roulette than the female one, obviously.{{unsigned|Nu-Priest|18:25, September 15, 2010 (EDT)}}
:Might be presumptuous, but Roulette is a repaint of a male character, and all that's changed to make her a her is her head, which was missing from this Roulette. It's possible First Aid just didn't know/couldn't tell.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 18:33, 15 September 2010 (EDT)
::Well, I sincerely doubt the presence of the head would deter a doctor from being able to tell the robot's "gender". --[[User:Nu-Priest|Nu-Priest]] 20:59, 15 September 2010 (EDT)
:::Considering you had to put it in quotations...--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 21:11, 15 September 2010 (EDT)
::::I also think a doctor would know. Besides, she is from the Beast Era. The [[IDW Generation 1 continuity]] doesn't have a Beast Era, as far as we know. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 01:04, 16 September 2010 (EDT)
:::::Her character is retroactively from the Great War/G1. *rethinks-previous-statement* You know, this version of Roulette could easily be a dude, if Jhiaxus or whoever hadn't made him into a her. I forgot about that little detail about IDW continuity's females. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:11, 16 September 2010 (EDT)
::::::Heh heh, yeah. It depends on how the "female genome" is spread, I guess. Maybe later Roulette realizes he was meant to be a she all along. (There's probably a weird but interesting story in there somewhere.) [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 06:35, 16 September 2010 (EDT)
:::::::If we're going to acknowledge Roulette exists in IDW continuity, I think the femmebot with the blatently copied color scheme from AHM #14 should get recognized. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 18:41, 17 September 2010 (EDT)
::::::::...yeah, um, I don't think you've seen the two characters side-by-side. It's not the same color scheme. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:22, 17 September 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::I accept your challenge! I am now holding Universe #1 and AHM #14 side-by-side. Gold helmet, gray face, blue eyes, gold and gray chestplate, purple and gold on the legs, vehicle kibble on the thighs...uh, yeah. It's not an absolutely slavish recreation, but for comparing a Cybertronian mode to an Earth mode, I'd say it's a damn near perfect match. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 20:39, 17 September 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::We've seen Roulette's Cybertronian mode! And the colors are all totally jumbled and in the wrong proportions. I would say the generic's color scheme is reminiscent of Roulette, but is absolutely not in any way Roulette-enough to be considered her. Much in the same way that the dude she's with is so totally not Side Burn, despite folks' claims. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:47, 17 September 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::::We saw two modes for Roulette, before and after the Cauldron. Both had your standard Earth-like tires, and none of the Cybertronian sleekness or hover-stylings we've seen on other characters. Even if we had previously seen A Cybertronian mode for her, though, IDW has created numerous NEW Cybertronians designs for characters (Megatron, Ratbat, Blaster, Arcee, etc.). It's a female Cybertronian, in Roulette's ''basic'' color scheme, in a role close to Sunstreaker, whom she was connected with at her introduction. We've made positive IDs on far less than that before. Not acknowledging that femmebot as Roulette is one thing, but ignoring her AND saying this unseen, undescribed male Transformer IS her IDW counterpart just seems bizarre. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 22:41, 17 September 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::::Maybe if the AHM female had Roulette's head... I mean, if we color a random guy <strike>like Wheeljack</strike> approximately sort of in Wheeljack's colors, does it make him Wheeljack? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:44, 17 September 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::::::Wheeljack has possibly the most distinctive head in the history of Transformers, so that comparison doesn't really work -- Roulette is just another face-in-helmet variation. And again, the femmebot's helmet is ''approximately'' the same as Roulette's: length-wise cheek panels, "chin-strap", sloped ridge on the forehead, two points on top. Is every detail an artistically perfect recreation? No. But neither were IDW's Cybertronian mode Skram, or Road Rocket, or Primus-knows how many other redesigns. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 10:49, 18 September 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::::Maybe someone should just flat-out ask James on the IDW board, he frequents it enough. I just think it's a case similar to "Wing" in Drift # 1. Cool name, randomly chosen. --[[User:Nu-Priest|Nu-Priest]] 22:33, 17 September 2010 (EDT)

Guys... are you seriously having an argument about bending over backwards to explain why a one-note male character should be the same character as a female from another universe? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:10, 18 September 2010 (EDT)
: I think we stopped talking about the Dude Roulette ages ago. Now we're talking about the girl-who-sorta-looks-like-Roulette-because-she-has-similarish-colors-but-a-different-head-which-we-will-ignore. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:25, 18 September 2010 (EDT)
::Basically, I'm arguing that if a femmebot clearly based on Roulette colors/appearance ISN'T her IDW counterpart, then a description-less text-only male TF who happens to share the same name shouldn't be Roulette's counterpart either. Ignoring the AHM femmebot is one thing; recognizing a character even LESS like Roulette in lieu of her is another. There should be a separate page for the dude-bot under Roulette (IDW) or Roulette (male) or something. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 12:03, 18 September 2010 (EDT)
:::Yeah, that's basically what I was getting at from the get-go.--[[User:Nu-Priest|Nu-Priest]] 13:15, 18 September 2010 (EDT)
:I'm confused-- is this the female from Sunstreaker's story? Because I assumed that was Airrazor. She's standing in front of Sideburn, we see someone I assume is Bulkhead in the same panel, and I assume the orange fellow behind her shoulder on the next page is Survive. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:13, 19 September 2010 (EDT)
==Related pages==

Bunch of new pages need to be made for this story. The list on ''[[Talk:Withered Hope|Withered Hope]]'' helped me out, so...

Characters: [[Pharma]], [[Roulette (IDW)]], [[Ambulon]], [[Schema]], [[Dodger]], [[Animus]], [[Gideon]], [[Tripwire]], [[Tremorcon]]s ([[Seizor]], [[Aftershock (G1)]], [[Fracture (G1)]], [[Tectonix]]), [[Agent 113]], [[Crest]], [[Hyperion]], [[Kaput]], [[Jetstream]], [[Atomizer]], [[Calculus]], [[Violator]], [[Heliobot]]s

Locations: [[Delphi]] on [[Messatine]], [[Babu Yar]], [[Hydrus 5]], [[Debris]] in orbit of Klo, [[Igue Moor]], The [[Exit Rooms]], [[Grindcore prison camp]], [[Karashi Delta]], [[Morobishi Canyons]]

Other: ''[[Pale Fire]]'', [[Decepticon Justice Division]], [[Survivor (Babu Yar)]], [[Room 113]], [[Ethics Committee]], [[Surge (event)]], [[Gideon's Glue]], [[Magnus Inquiry]], [[Non-Conventional Weapons Act]], [[Unmentionable]], [[Malevolent Counterintuitive Pathogen]], [[Operation: Retrieval]], [[Black phosphex]], [[Novic Metal for Outstanding Valor]], ''[[Fatal Consequence]]''

Whew. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 12:39, 19 September 2010 (EDT)

==Rung's patients==

The medic who checks badges is obviously [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]], the data processor who believes he's a right leg is [[Lightspeed (G1 Technobot)|Lightspeed]]...any idea who the paranoid cadet is? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 15:38, 19 September 2010 (EDT)
:Red Alert? Seems like the obvious guess. --[[Special:Contributions/72.79.209.160|72.79.209.160]] 08:59, 20 September 2010 (EDT)

Bullets

2010-09-20T12:41:13Z

72.79.209.160: This is a text story, not a comic issue...

{{Comicstory|
|seriesissue=''[[Last Stand of the Wreckers]]''
|next=Dead Men's Boots
|title="Bullets"
|publisher=[[IDW Publishing]]
|date=[[September 1]], [[2010]]
|story=[[James Roberts]]
|editor=[[Shaun Knowler]]
|continuity=[[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW continuity]]
|chronology=[[IDW timeline|Current era (2010)]]
}}
'''Seeds for the new Wreckers take root.'''

==Synopsis==
{{issuestub}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
* [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] (1)
* [[Pharma]] (2)
* [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] (3)
* [[Roulette (G1)|Roulette]] (4)
* [[Ambulon]] (5)
* [[Schema]] (6)
* [[Dogfight]] (7)
* [[Dodger]] (8)
* [[Backstreet]] (9)
* [[Rung]] (10)
* [[Flattop (Autobot)|Flattop]] (11)
* [[Ironfist]] (12)
* [[Emirate Xaaron|Xaaron]] (13)
* [[Animus]] (14)
* [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] (15)
* [[Skyfall (G1)|Skyfall]] (16)
* [[Brainstorm]] (17)
* [[Pyro]] (18)
* [[Afterburner (G1)|Afterburner]] (19)
* [[Guzzle (G1)|Guzzle]] (20)
* [[Rotorstorm]] (21)
* [[Landfill (G1)|Landfill]] (23)
* [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] (24)
* [[Twin Twist]] (25)
* [[Topspin (G1)|Topspin]] (26)
* [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] (27)
}}

==Mentioned characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
* [[Impactor]] (1)
* [[Rack'n'Ruin|Rack n' Ruin]] (2)
* [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]] (3)
* [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] (4)
* [[Roadbuster]] (5)
* [[Bluestreak|Silverstreak]] (6)
* [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] (8)
* [[Flame (Marvel)|Flame]] (10)
* [[Tyrest (Autobot)|Tyrest]] (11)
* [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] (12)
* [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] (13)
* [[Crosshairs (G1)|Crosshairs]] (16)
* [[Tripwire]] (17)
* "[[Agent 113]]" (22)
* [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] (24)
* [[Crest]] (25)
* [[Hyperion (G1)|Hyperion]] (26)
* [[Dipstick]] (27)
* [[Fixit (G1)|Fixit]] (28)
* [[Kaput]] (30)
* [[Jetstream]] (31)
* [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] (32)
* [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]] (33)
* [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]] (34)
* [[Atomizer]] (35)
* [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]] (36)
* [[Calculus]] (37)
* [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] (39)

|c2=
* [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] (7)
* [[Gideon]] (9)
* [[Seizor]] (18)
* [[Aftershock (G1)|Aftershock]] (19)
* [[Fracture (G1)|Fracture]] (20)
* [[Tectonix]] (21)
* [[Skyquake (G1)|Sky Quake]] (23)
* [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] (29)
* [[Violator]] (38)
}}

==Quotes==
* TBD

==Errors==
* TBD

==Items of note==
* This text-only story was released as a bonus feature in ''[[Last Stand of the Wreckers]]'' trade paperback, and is a prequel to the material in the trade.

[[Category:Text stories]]

Nick Roche

2010-09-16T13:38:37Z

72.79.209.160: Oops.

[[Image:derpnick.jpg|right|244px|thumb|What can brown do for you?]]
'''Nick Roche''' (born [[September 5]], 1979 <ref>[http://nickroche.blogspot.com/2008/09/twenty-nine-club.html "The Twenty-Nine Club"]</ref>) is an Irish comic book artist and writer for [[IDW Publishing]]. He is '''awesome'''.

Nick Roche is a native of County Wexford, but currently resides in Dublin, Ireland. Having always been a massive Transformers fan, Roche's produced artwork for fan fiction and UK convention publications, gaining a healthy fanbase within the UK, but remaining almost entirely unknown outside of the tight-knit UK fandom.

He pitched his work to [[Dreamwave Productions]] but had no response, something he's glad about in hindsight; he notes "at the time, I'd have worked for free but it turns out everyone else at Dreamwave was doing that anyway".<ref name="Moonbase Two">[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIkqheta3GE Nick Roche interview with Moonbase Two]</ref> Nick finally got his break into Transformers when IDW Publishing acquired the Transformers license. A friend of Nick's by the name of Dave Hendrick sent IDW supremo [[Chris Ryall]] Nick's samples.

Twenty minutes later there was an email back from Chris.

Nick started on the "Chrischarger" art before being given ''Spotlight''s, then ''more'' ''Spotlight''s (and a ''[[Devastation (IDW)|Devastation]]'' fill-in) before being given the ''[[Maximum Dinobots]]'' mini-series. He's also penciled numerous covers for the different Transformers series, including a piece for the ''[[Target 2006 (IDW)|Target 2006]]'' reprints featuring the original team of [[Wrecker]]s, the covers for the [[Metrodome]] DVD sets of ''[[Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|Super-God Masterforce]]'' and ''[[Victory (cartoon)|Victory]]'', and a special comic and a piece of artwork packed with [[Madman Entertainment]]'s ''Generation 1'' DVD set. Nick has also worked on the new Transformers UK comic book ([[Transformers Comic issue 2|issue 2]]) and the ''Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles'' comic for [[Titan Books|Titan]].

If that wasn't enough, Nick drew ''and'' wrote ''[[Spotlight: Kup]]'', which also has the distinction of being the first issue in the IDW G1 continuity written by someone other than [[Simon Furman]]. He co-wrote and drew the incredibly well-received ''[[Last Stand of the Wreckers|Last Stand of the Wreckers]]'' with [[James Roberts]]. And he also writes panto!<ref name="Moonbase Two" />

Shattered trousers are usually left in his wake.

{{quote|Look: you can't comprehend the scale of trouser destruction that will occur. The current financial crisis? Pffah! There will be people wandering around this Christmas with next to no trouser coverage. And as for the potentially countless children who will lose their sight and sense of decency from flying pant-shards...well, it doesn't bear thinking about. No gusset is safe this Christmas.|Nick on the imminent release of ''Maximum Dinobots'' #1<ref>http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=106763#106763</ref>}}

==Writing==
* "[[Spotlight: Kup]]"
* [[All Hail Megatron issue 15|''All Hail Megatron'' #15]] story 1: "Everything in Its Right Place"
* ''[[Last Stand of the Wreckers]]''

==Comic book art==
[[Image:FerreroRocher.jpg|right|158px|thumb|A lesser-known variation on the spelling of Nick's name.]]
===IDW Publishing===

* "[[Spotlight: Shockwave]]"
* "[[Spotlight: Hot Rod]]"
* "[[Spotlight: Kup]]"
* [[Beast Wars Sourcebook|''Beast Wars'' Sourcebook]] #1, #2 (select pages)
* ''[[Devastation (IDW)|Devastation]]'' [[Devastation issue 3|#3]]
* "[[Spotlight: Hardhead]]"
* ''[[Maximum Dinobots]]''
* [[All Hail Megatron issue 15|''All Hail Megatron'' #15]] story 1: "Everything in Its Right Place"
* ''[[Last Stand of the Wreckers]]''

===Madman Entertainment===
* ''Transformers Generation 1'' Complete Collection DVD set ([[The Transformers (Madman)|pack-in comic book]] and [[Matrix of Leadership]] chamber artwork with [[Don Figueroa]] and [[Josh Burcham]])

===Titan Books===
*[[Transformers Comic issue 2|Titan ''Transformers'' comic #2]]

{{-}}

==DVD cover art==
===[[Metrodome]]===
* ''[[Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|Transformers Takara Collection Super-God Masterforce]]''
* ''[[Victory (cartoon)|Transformers Takara Collection Victory]]''

==Convention appearances==
* [[BotCon]] ([[BotCon 2007|2007]])
* [[BotCon]] ([[BotCon 2009|2009]])
* [[Unofficial conventions|Auto Assembly]] (2009)
* [[Unofficial conventions|Auto Assembly]] (2010)

==Notes==
* Nick Roche's art style is instantly recognizable in a comic due to his semi-stylized lines. According to him, he just "makes the hands bigger and the pointy bits pointier", and he would like to draw with "[[Geoff Senior|Senior's]] energy, [[Andrew Wildman|Wildman's]] expressiveness and [[Derek Yaniger|Yaniger's]] chins!". He is also noted for being able to change his drawing style. He says he finds he does change it automatically depending on the story, such as upping the cartooniness for "Spotlight Hot Rod" and toning it down for a story from [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl's]] point of view.<ref name="Moonbase Two" />
* He has admitted to being "gay for Hot Rod".
* He is also the first Transformers celebrity to have interviewed another Transformers [[Stan Bush|celebrity]].<ref>http://c3.libsyn.com/media/20749/EP_26_-_OLDMOON_OILBASE_INTERVIEWS_STAN_BUSH.mp3?nvb=20100909170039&nva=20100910171039&sid=fd4711763d08f49953c5982d42719c75&l_sid=20749&l_eid=&l_mid=2021798&t=0155622406f16c055d36b</ref>
* At Auto Assembly 2010 it was discovered that Nick can do an uncanny David Kaye impression. Yesssssss.

==Gallery==
<center><gallery>
Image:SpotlightHotRod rush.jpg|[[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] enjoys freefalling to a planet in "[[Spotlight: Hot Rod]]".
Image:TFGenerations12.jpg|[[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]]'s never looked this cool before or since. Cover art for ''[[Generations (comic reprints)|Transformers: Generations]]'' issue #12.
Image:SpotlightHardhead HardheadsHeadshot.jpg|[[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]]'s got a hard head in "[[Spotlight: Hardhead]]".
Image:AHM15 SpringerpunchesProwl.jpg|[[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] is [[Springer (G1)|Springer]]'s personal punching bag in [[All Hail Megatron issue 15|''All Hail Megatron'' #15]]
</gallery>

* ''[[:Category:Images by Nick Roche|Extended Nick Roche gallery]]''</center>

==References==
<references />

==External links==
* [http://nickroche.blogspot.com/ Nick Roche's blog]

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Nick Roche

2010-09-16T13:37:36Z

72.79.209.160: Adding the guy's birth date.

[[Image:derpnick.jpg|right|244px|thumb|What can brown do for you?]]
'''Nick Roche''' (born [[September 5]], 1979 <ref>[http://nickroche.blogspot.com/2008/09/twenty-nine-club.html "The Twenty-Nine Club"</ref>) is an Irish comic book artist and writer for [[IDW Publishing]]. He is '''awesome'''.

Nick Roche is a native of County Wexford, but currently resides in Dublin, Ireland. Having always been a massive Transformers fan, Roche's produced artwork for fan fiction and UK convention publications, gaining a healthy fanbase within the UK, but remaining almost entirely unknown outside of the tight-knit UK fandom.

He pitched his work to [[Dreamwave Productions]] but had no response, something he's glad about in hindsight; he notes "at the time, I'd have worked for free but it turns out everyone else at Dreamwave was doing that anyway".<ref name="Moonbase Two">[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIkqheta3GE Nick Roche interview with Moonbase Two]</ref> Nick finally got his break into Transformers when IDW Publishing acquired the Transformers license. A friend of Nick's by the name of Dave Hendrick sent IDW supremo [[Chris Ryall]] Nick's samples.

Twenty minutes later there was an email back from Chris.

Nick started on the "Chrischarger" art before being given ''Spotlight''s, then ''more'' ''Spotlight''s (and a ''[[Devastation (IDW)|Devastation]]'' fill-in) before being given the ''[[Maximum Dinobots]]'' mini-series. He's also penciled numerous covers for the different Transformers series, including a piece for the ''[[Target 2006 (IDW)|Target 2006]]'' reprints featuring the original team of [[Wrecker]]s, the covers for the [[Metrodome]] DVD sets of ''[[Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|Super-God Masterforce]]'' and ''[[Victory (cartoon)|Victory]]'', and a special comic and a piece of artwork packed with [[Madman Entertainment]]'s ''Generation 1'' DVD set. Nick has also worked on the new Transformers UK comic book ([[Transformers Comic issue 2|issue 2]]) and the ''Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles'' comic for [[Titan Books|Titan]].

If that wasn't enough, Nick drew ''and'' wrote ''[[Spotlight: Kup]]'', which also has the distinction of being the first issue in the IDW G1 continuity written by someone other than [[Simon Furman]]. He co-wrote and drew the incredibly well-received ''[[Last Stand of the Wreckers|Last Stand of the Wreckers]]'' with [[James Roberts]]. And he also writes panto!<ref name="Moonbase Two" />

Shattered trousers are usually left in his wake.

{{quote|Look: you can't comprehend the scale of trouser destruction that will occur. The current financial crisis? Pffah! There will be people wandering around this Christmas with next to no trouser coverage. And as for the potentially countless children who will lose their sight and sense of decency from flying pant-shards...well, it doesn't bear thinking about. No gusset is safe this Christmas.|Nick on the imminent release of ''Maximum Dinobots'' #1<ref>http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=106763#106763</ref>}}

==Writing==
* "[[Spotlight: Kup]]"
* [[All Hail Megatron issue 15|''All Hail Megatron'' #15]] story 1: "Everything in Its Right Place"
* ''[[Last Stand of the Wreckers]]''

==Comic book art==
[[Image:FerreroRocher.jpg|right|158px|thumb|A lesser-known variation on the spelling of Nick's name.]]
===IDW Publishing===

* "[[Spotlight: Shockwave]]"
* "[[Spotlight: Hot Rod]]"
* "[[Spotlight: Kup]]"
* [[Beast Wars Sourcebook|''Beast Wars'' Sourcebook]] #1, #2 (select pages)
* ''[[Devastation (IDW)|Devastation]]'' [[Devastation issue 3|#3]]
* "[[Spotlight: Hardhead]]"
* ''[[Maximum Dinobots]]''
* [[All Hail Megatron issue 15|''All Hail Megatron'' #15]] story 1: "Everything in Its Right Place"
* ''[[Last Stand of the Wreckers]]''

===Madman Entertainment===
* ''Transformers Generation 1'' Complete Collection DVD set ([[The Transformers (Madman)|pack-in comic book]] and [[Matrix of Leadership]] chamber artwork with [[Don Figueroa]] and [[Josh Burcham]])

===Titan Books===
*[[Transformers Comic issue 2|Titan ''Transformers'' comic #2]]

{{-}}

==DVD cover art==
===[[Metrodome]]===
* ''[[Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|Transformers Takara Collection Super-God Masterforce]]''
* ''[[Victory (cartoon)|Transformers Takara Collection Victory]]''

==Convention appearances==
* [[BotCon]] ([[BotCon 2007|2007]])
* [[BotCon]] ([[BotCon 2009|2009]])
* [[Unofficial conventions|Auto Assembly]] (2009)
* [[Unofficial conventions|Auto Assembly]] (2010)

==Notes==
* Nick Roche's art style is instantly recognizable in a comic due to his semi-stylized lines. According to him, he just "makes the hands bigger and the pointy bits pointier", and he would like to draw with "[[Geoff Senior|Senior's]] energy, [[Andrew Wildman|Wildman's]] expressiveness and [[Derek Yaniger|Yaniger's]] chins!". He is also noted for being able to change his drawing style. He says he finds he does change it automatically depending on the story, such as upping the cartooniness for "Spotlight Hot Rod" and toning it down for a story from [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl's]] point of view.<ref name="Moonbase Two" />
* He has admitted to being "gay for Hot Rod".
* He is also the first Transformers celebrity to have interviewed another Transformers [[Stan Bush|celebrity]].<ref>http://c3.libsyn.com/media/20749/EP_26_-_OLDMOON_OILBASE_INTERVIEWS_STAN_BUSH.mp3?nvb=20100909170039&nva=20100910171039&sid=fd4711763d08f49953c5982d42719c75&l_sid=20749&l_eid=&l_mid=2021798&t=0155622406f16c055d36b</ref>
* At Auto Assembly 2010 it was discovered that Nick can do an uncanny David Kaye impression. Yesssssss.

==Gallery==
<center><gallery>
Image:SpotlightHotRod rush.jpg|[[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] enjoys freefalling to a planet in "[[Spotlight: Hot Rod]]".
Image:TFGenerations12.jpg|[[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]]'s never looked this cool before or since. Cover art for ''[[Generations (comic reprints)|Transformers: Generations]]'' issue #12.
Image:SpotlightHardhead HardheadsHeadshot.jpg|[[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]]'s got a hard head in "[[Spotlight: Hardhead]]".
Image:AHM15 SpringerpunchesProwl.jpg|[[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] is [[Springer (G1)|Springer]]'s personal punching bag in [[All Hail Megatron issue 15|''All Hail Megatron'' #15]]
</gallery>

* ''[[:Category:Images by Nick Roche|Extended Nick Roche gallery]]''</center>

==References==
<references />

==External links==
* [http://nickroche.blogspot.com/ Nick Roche's blog]

{{DEFAULTSORT:Roche, Nick}}
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[[Category:Writers]]

Talk:Hasbro Q&A

2010-09-08T16:50:52Z

72.79.209.160: /* Archiving */

== Archiving ==

Is there a reason the actual answers from other sites can't be archived here ("think of the children", if anything happens to another site)? I realize that as each round comes in those answers act as a "draw" for each site, but surely older rounds could be written up here. Perhaps a round of answers could be added after two rounds of subsequent questions. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:49, 23 December 2009 (EST)
:Alternatively, rather than a verbatim cut-and-paste of the answers, which other sites could (rightly) argue belongs to them, we could summarize the answers. Especially for a previous round, I don't see this as impacting their site. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:51, 23 December 2009 (EST)
::Yeah, I probably should have stated more clearly that it could be summarized. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:53, 23 December 2009 (EST)
:::I'd rather not summarize the answers either. Let the sites have their content. We link them for all the answers, and if the answers are useful, they're integrated into the site where they're applicable. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:58, 23 December 2009 (EST)
:Previous discussion on the matter, FWIW: [[Talk:Hasbro Q&A/October-November 2008]] --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:00, 23 December 2009 (EST)
:I thought I might bring this up again in that all the ActionFigs.com Q&As have either gone offline or have been moved somewhere that I haven't been able to find. Is anyone actively keeping an archive of these answers just in case?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 12:38, 8 September 2010 (EDT)
::They're here: http://www.actionfigs.com/index.php?categoryid=61&p2_articleid=2471 all on one page. --[[Special:Contributions/72.79.209.160|72.79.209.160]] 12:50, 8 September 2010 (EDT)

== Should we discuss the overall quality of the Q&A here? ==

I'm referring to stuff like "depending on who is assigned to answer a site's questions, the site may get useless PR-washed non-answers that often miss the actual point entirely, instead reacting to certain keywords in the question and giving out what seems like pre-written stock answers that vaguely match those keywords, or slightly more useful answers written by an actual human being who shows an ounce of humor and personality and likes to insert specifically highlighted hints even where more concrete answers aren't possible"?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 07:45, 25 December 2009 (EST)
:The Wiigiis don't like it when we make fun of Hasbro's Q&A. Hooper told me off for even suggesting making mild light of the answers on the front page, a few months back when we got bad PR company answers. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:54, 25 December 2009 (EST)
::It might be worth analyzing to see if there's any effect wording/type of question has on the quality of the answers. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 08:20, 25 December 2009 (EST)
:::That analysis strikes me as an activity best done off-line (or at least elsewhere.) I think the "Wiigiis" have a very reasonable concern about not biting the hand that feeds them. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 09:29, 25 December 2009 (EST)
::::Well, let me know what you folks come up with, then, I guess, as the wiki and the message boards are my only avenue for talking about wiki stuff. (Not that I can get how simply noting that certain types of questions are more what Hasbro wants to answer than others qualifies as "biting the hand that feeds you". Seems more like doing Hasbro a favor by not wasting their time with questions they can't/won't answer.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 09:35, 25 December 2009 (EST)
::::(Or to put it another way, that's nice, but private chit-chats between a circle of friends don't really do anything to inform everyone else involved who wants to be able to constructively contribute. (Which goes for a lot more than just the Q&As, really.)) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 09:47, 25 December 2009 (EST)
:::::OH NOOO THE WIIGIIIIIIIS! THEY DID IT THEY ARE MEAN!!! Seriously, dude, the reason I jumped on someone's shit is 'cause Hasbro doesn't even have to do this thing. Sitting here right next to where the answers are posted and talking about how shitty the answers are seems to be inviting them to, uh, uninvite us. Do it on your talk page or something. Then we can just say we don't actually know you. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 11:51, 25 December 2009 (EST)
::::::While talking bad about Hasbro's answers might be a bad idea, I like Jeysie's first point that maybe we should try harder to ask questions that they can answer and not those that would be unlikely to be answered due to messing with Hasbro's future plans. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 18:12, 25 December 2009 (EST)
:::::::We do try very very hard when we pick these things. It's hard to guess just what will get a response from them and what they just won't know, or which they'll ignore the greater question and phone in some nonsense marketing speak. And sometimes 90% of the questions we have to pull from kind of aren't answerable, leaving us with maybe two or three questions that are kinda meh, but have a bigger chance of success. It would take a much much greater sample of questions to kind of learn exactly what makes this whole thing tick, rather than learning from 3 questions every 2 and a half months. Especially when sometimes it's just luck... --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:41, 25 December 2009 (EST)
::::::::There's a difference between "pointing out that official interaction with Hasbro has flaws" and "being unfairly mean towards Hasbro". Pointing out that something Hasbro does isn't automatically "biting the hand that feeds us", and we've criticized Hasbro in many places on the Wiki (particularly in the [[Hasbro]] article). What I'm saying is that the Q&A article should include a quick write-up of the overall proceedings so far, with a fair and balanced description of the results as observed up to this point. And with "fair and balanced", I mean neither "negatively biased" nor "leaving out all the negative". As it stands, the Q&A article is just a portal. It's not descriptive enough.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 10:34, 26 December 2009 (EST)
:::::::::Why is being a mere portal wrong? Why does it have to be descriptive? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:36, 26 December 2009 (EST)
:::::::::I think it is the answers themselves that are important and interesting. Meta-analysis of the responses themselves seems strange. Not so much biting the hand that feeds us but more like looking a gift horse in the mouth. Kind of rude. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:43, 26 December 2009 (EST)
::::::::::I have to admit there is a certain wiki sense of logic about creating an article about the Q&A, much like we create articles about other Hasbro things. It might be useful as a sort of summary of what information we have and haven't learned from it, without being judgmental against Hasbro.
::::::::::But mostly I'd just like to try and work towards solving the "90% of the questions we get aren't useful" issue by coming up with some sort of guidelines of what types of questions we want to encourage people to ask, in the sense of being both likely to be answered and useful to the wiki specifically. (Kind of like how the Allspark has a "don't ask questions about when we'll get Toy X" guideline.) Trying to generate more productive questions benefits both us and Hasbro. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 11:01, 26 December 2009 (EST)
:::::::::::It's kinda difficult when "luck" is a major factor, though. See the Wiki's Constructicon answer vs. TFviews' one. If you're lucky, your question gets assigned to someone who is actually capable of coming up with human responses. If you're less lucky, you get the marketing bot that spits out stock answers based on keywords in the question.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 11:15, 26 December 2009 (EST)
:::::::::::::It generally seems like if you put something nitpicky in there (talking explicitly about "hey who was that one dude who was in the back in that one shot" versus "we don't have names for all the constructicons") it gets sent to whoever deals with picked nits. That seem like a reasonable statement? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 11:21, 26 December 2009 (EST)
::::::::::::::So in other words, if we want actual answers rather than PR-washed stock information, we should make our questions seem nitpicky?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 08:00, 27 December 2009 (EST)
:::::::::::::::If we're asking about things like the Constructicons, yes. Going broad gets you the WELL DUH answer. And then sometimes, the only reason you're getting an answer is if they feel like they're ready to talk about it (the question this go-round about instruction sheets. That seems like something they were willing to announce anyway.) [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 08:51, 27 December 2009 (EST)

Leozack

2010-08-22T02:35:38Z

72.79.209.160: Undo revision 492307 by 184.77.129.160 (Talk) That's because it's Lyzack, IIRC.

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:''Leozack is a [[Decepticon]] [[Breastforce]] Warrior from the [[Victory (franchise)|Victory]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
[[Image:Leozack boxart.jpg|right|275px|thumb|I hope Mr. Belding doesn't find out about our rascally scheme, [[Screech (Action Master)|Screech]].]]
'''Leozack''' (レオザック ''Reozakku'') is the commander of the elite Decepticon [[Breastforce]] and notionally [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]]'s most trusted warrior...except he really can't be trusted at all. Leozack despises being anything less than the top 'bot and is constantly struggling to have it all—including leadership of the Decepticons. Unlike [[Starscream (G1)|those that have come before]], however, Leozack is smart enough to keep his ambitions hidden from his emperor, preferring to gather the resources and power necessary to fuel his dreams of conquest in secret. The thing is, Deathsaurus is fully aware of Leozack's dreams and schemes, and to say that he doesn't rate Leozack as a threat would be putting it mildly. In Deathsaurus's eyes, Leozack is an overzealous youth with ideas above his station, and while he conceals his awareness of Leozack's treachery from him, he never misses a chance to make his contempt for Leozack well-known. This drives Leozack absolutely crazy, and he often takes irrational risks trying to prove to Deathsaurus that he is a capable warrior.

As a member of the Breastforce, Leozack is partnered with a transforming breastplate which can detach and transform into his [[Breast Animal]] partner, the [[Lionbreast]], or the handheld "Leo Cannon". Like his fellow Breastforcers, Leozack also wields an [[Electromagnetic Nunchaku]]. Leozack can combine with his fellow Breastforce warriors into [[Liokaiser]], forming the upper torso of the super robot.

==Fiction==
===Cartoon continuity===
====''Victory'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Keiichi Nanba]] (Japanese)

[[Image:Leozack dynamicentry.jpg|left|180px|thumb|The power of JAZZ HANDS!]]
Leozack was summoned by Deathsaurus to bolster his forces in preparation for their campaign against the [[Earth]]. Leozack was put in charge of the first plan, which involved the [[Dinoforce]] attacking the [[Autobot]]s' base while Leozack himself intended to confront [[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]]. The Dinoforce went about their task and drew Star Saber out, and both Leozack and Deathsaurus, watching the conflict from afar on the ''[[Thunder Arrow]]'', were taken aback to see the Autobot leader piloting the [[V-Star]] battlecraft, which they had never seen before. Leozack was about to head out to battle Star Saber, but Deathsaurus suggested he hold back and observe this new turn of events instead. Leozack did so, and rather predictably, the Dinoforce were defeated. {{storylink|Sneak Attack! Dinoking}}

[[Image:Victory ep4 sandhide.jpg|right|190px|thumb|Seriously, how does he DO that?]]
The ''Thunder Arrow'' subsequently set down on Earth, and Leozack vowed to end Star Saber's life as a gift to Deathsaurus. He attacked Star Saber when the Autobot leader was bringing his human son [[Jean Minakaze|Jean]] to school, putting the whole campus in danger. Leozack grappled with Star Saber, but with his Lionbreast busy fighting [[Holi]], his torso was left unprotected, leaving him open to a damaging slash from Star Saber's Saber Blade, which forced him to retreat. {{storylink|Attack! Leozack}}

Leozack was soon joined by his Breastforce teammates [[Drillhorn]], [[Jarugar]] and [[Killbison]], and together, they arranged an attack on an energy plant in the desert. The Breastforce hid themselves in the sand and watched as the Dinoforce carried out the attack, but when the Autobot [[Landcross (Victory)|Landcross]] arrived, they emerged to join the battle. Said battle didn't last long, as Star Saber soon arrived as well, and Leozack fled when confronted by the two giants. {{storylink|Unite!! Multiforce}}
[[Image:Leozack vs starsaber.jpg|left|200px|thumb|This is what happens when you don't use fabric softener.]]
With his next plan, Leozack began showing his true colors. Recruiting the Dinoforce to help him, Leozack had them attack the [[Ocean Exhibition]] amusement park, with the intention of turning it into a personal base for himself. He even revealed his ambition to overthrow Deathsaurus to [[Gōryū]], and while the Dinoforce leader was not particularly impressed, he decided to go along with the stunt anyway. Unsurprisingly, the Autobots soon arrived, and Leozack was defeated by Star Saber, after which he attempted to bluff his way out of trouble by telling Deathsaurus that he had intended to turn the park into a seawater energy conversion plant. {{storylink|Move Out! Rescue Team}}

[[Image:Leozack and lionbreast.jpg|right|210px|thumb|His cat is his brother. Hmmm...]]
After leading an infiltration of the Neo Uranium Mines {{storylink|Infiltration... The Uranium Mine}} and helping to gather energy in the Amazon, {{storylink|Explosion!! The Energy Base}} Leozack joined the other Decepticons in stealing energy from an American subway system. The plan was Deathsaurus's own, and Leozack advocated caution, but when Deathsaurus embarrassed him into silence in front of the other Decepticons, he was left in a bad mood for the whole mission. Consequently, Leozack decided to disobey orders and blast the subway tunnels open so they could access the electrical systems more easily. This, of course, attracted the attention of the Autobots, and Leozack wound up battling [[Blacker]] in the cramped underground quarters. When Deathsaurus called retreat, Leozack was unwilling to break off the fight, but when all the other Decepticons abandoned him, he had little choice. {{storylink|Big City - Underground Terror}}
[[Image:Leozack and hellbat.jpg|left|225px|thumb|"You know what? I can't talk to you when you're like this."]]
Hoping to redeem himself for past failures, Leozack summoned another of his Breastforce teammates, [[Hellbat]], to Earth to steal information from the [[New Energy Resource Research and Development Laboratory]] in Japan. Unfortunately, Hellbat botched the job, leading to another battle with the Autobots. The Decepticons were defeated by a brainwave scrambler invented by [[Braver]], which Leozack was able to steal as he retreated. Alas, the scrambler only worked on Decepticons, and the dressing-down that Leozack received from Deathsaurus only convinced Hellbat that he could do a better job of leading the Breastforce himself. {{storylink|The New Warrior - Hellbat}} Hellbat proceeded to go over Leozack's head with information he had about an energy shipment being transported in Nevada. Leozack was naturally furious, but Hellbat’s honeyed words convinced Leozack to carry out the attack with him so they could steal the energy for their own personal supply. Of course, the two hapless schemers wound up being once again defeated by Star Saber. {{storylink|Attack the Shuttle Base!!}} Two subsequent missions led by Leozack to steal oil from tankers likewise met with failure, {{storylink|Tanker Hijack Operation}} {{storylink|Rescue Jean!!}} as did the Breastforce's attempt to tap hydroelectric power in [[Canada]]. {{storylink|Mach and Tackle}}

[[Image:Leozack and deathcobra.jpg|right|220px|thumb|"Oh god, nobody panic! Okay, if anyone asks, we just found him like this."]]
Following a scheme to create an energy alloy, {{storylink|A Fierce Battle!! The Asteroid}} Leozack took the Breastforce to the planet [[Micro]], intending to free another of their comrades, [[Gaihawk]], from the Satellite Penitentiary on the planet's moon. Following the success of this mission, {{storylink|Rescue! Gaihawk}} Leozack sought to complete the team by summoning the final member, [[Deathcobra (Victory)|Deathcobra]], to join them. With Deathcobra on the team, Leozack could finally boot out the untrustworthy Hellbat, and the remaining six members could merge into their combined form of [[Liokaiser]]. Learning of this, Hellbat tried to stop Deathcobra from meeting with the others and accidentally wound up killing him in the fight that ensued. He preventing Leozack from discovered this by blaming the Autobot [[Micromaster]] Holi for the deed, and so secured his place as part of Liokaiser. After defeating Star Saber in their first combined outing, {{storylink|Unite! Liokaiser}} Leozack led the team back to Earth, but still couldn't catch a break from Deathsaurus, who opted instead to heap praise on Gaihawk for his role in the battle, then on Hellbat, who had found a new target for the Decepticons in the [[Schaeffer Energy]] plant. The Breastforce combined into Liokaiser to battle Star Saber for the Schaeffer Energy, {{storylink|Battle Up of Wrath!!}} and later merged again to battle him and Landcross at the South Pole. {{storylink|Fight to the Death!! Antarctic Battle}}
[[Image:Deathsaurus vs leozack.jpg|left|210px|thumb|"Are you ticklish... right there??"]]
Leozack and the Breastforce's next plan was one of their best, as they lured their Autobot rivals, the [[Brainmaster]]s, into an ambush in the desert. With the heavy automotive Autobots unable to manoeuvre in the shifting sands, the Breastforce were able to damage Blacker badly and deal a serious blow to the Autobots. {{storylink|Crisis! Ambush in the Desert}} With the Autobots weakened by this loss in manpower, Deathsaurus decided it was time to increase the rate of Decepticon attacks…but this was not a good thing for Leozack, since the first thing Deathsaurus did was set his Breast Animals upon the Breastforce leader, pinning him to the floor of the throne room. Placing his sword against Leozack's face, Deathsaurus informed Leozack that he had always been aware of his second-in-command's ambition to lead the Decepticons, and he offered the would-be traitor a choice: Swear absolute loyalty to him or die. Stuck between a rock and a hard place, Leozack chose the former and aided his emperor in luring Star Saber into a subterranean battle. {{storylink|A Deadly Battle}} This battle left Star Saber badly injured, and the Decepticons kept up the pressure, as Leozack and the Breastforce accompanied Deathsaurus in raiding a solar power station. {{storylink|Ginrai Dies!!}}

Leozack later led missions to steal energy from America's "[[Energy Road]]", and the Mount Asama geothermal power plant, but was stopped on both occasions by Autobot warrior [[Victory Leo]]. {{storylink|Fight!! Victory Leo}} {{storylink|Awaken! Victory Leo}} Victory Leo ''wasn't'' able to interfere with the Decepticons' next energy theft, as the threat of orbital missile bombardment held him at bay, but Leozack disliked the cowardly nature of the scheme. {{storylink|The Tide is Turned! The Ultimate Weapon, the Victory Unification}} Even though it was Deathsaurus's own miscalculations that caused the failure of the plot, he didn't hesitate to blame Leozack. {{storylink|Jean - Defend the Campus!!}}
[[Image:Victory32 starsaberhides.jpg|right|210px|thumb|]]
When Star Saber was off-planet attending a [[Galactic Peace Alliance]] conference, Leozack exploited his absence by donning a large exo-skeleton that allowed him to pose as the Autobot leader. Entering the Autobots' headquarters with the claim that he had intercepted a Decepticon message reporting that bombs had been planted in the base, he searched for the disk containing the information on Star Saber and Victory Leo's combination process while the other Autobots were hunting for the nonexistent explosives. Leozack made Victory Leo suspicious when he accidentally electrocuted himself while rummaging under a console and had to trick Holi and Jean into showing him where the disk was. Leozack nearly got away with the disk, but at the last moment, the real Star Saber returned to expose the villain's deception and send him packing. {{storylink|A Mystery?! The Deception of the Base Bombs}}
[[Image:Victory35 falconpunch.jpg|left|210px|thumb|]]
Leozack's next scheme saw him unleash the metal-eating [[Dorya]] insects upon the Autobots, but the plan went down the tubes when the heroes discovered that intense cold defeated the bugs. {{storylink|The Death-Bringing Space Insects!!}} This resulted in yet ''another'' chewing-out from Deathsaurus, who refused to hear any more of Leozack's plans and simply beat him to a pulp. Hellbat chose that moment to pop up and deliver a secret message to Deathsaurus, which pushed Leozack to the end of his patience with his sneaky subordinate and led him to deliver a beating of his own. Once again, Hellbat sweet-talked Leozack into going along with his plan: the theft of energy from the ancient continent of [[Atlantis]]. {{storylink|The Terror of the Giant Tidal Waves}} The plan succeeded, and the Breastforce and Deathsaurus headed into space aboard the ''Thunder Arrow'' in order to recharge Deathsaurus's [[Planet-Destroying Fortress]] with the stolen energy. The Autobots pursued the villains, but were unable to stop them from bringing the fortress back online. {{storylink|The Wrath of the Resurrected Giant Fortress!}} To keep the Autobots busy while the fortress's main cannon charged, Deathsaurus dispatched the Breastforce—combined as Liokaiser—to battle them. In the course of the clash, Victory Leo was able to blast Liokaiser into the fortress's cannon barrel, which drained his energy dry. With his consciousness fading and his body unable to move, Liokaiser could only utter a fading scream for help as he drifted off into the depths of space. {{storylink|Showdown! The Fortress vs the Victory Unification}}
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====''Zone'' catalog====
As part of Liokaiser, Leozack was revived from death by some means. Lead by the reborn [[Emperor of Destruction|Dark Emperor]] [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]], Liokaiser joined several other powerful Decepticons in an assault on planet [[Zone (planet)|Zone]]. Attempting to steal their [[Energon Z]], the Decepticons proved no match for the [[Micromaster]]s and were driven away. {{storylink|Zone (story page)#Catalogue story page 1|Zone Project Story}}

===''Victory'' comic===
[[Image:Leozack manga.jpg|right|200px|thumb|"No one takes my Cybertronian link sausages!"]]
Leozack introduced himself to the Autobots when he embarked on a solo mission to Earth, believing that he could conquer the planet himself. His attack on a city did not go unnoticed by the Autobots, and when Star Saber arrived to stop him, Leozack was able to knock the [[Supreme Commander]] out of the air with his nunchaku. Unfortunately for Leozack, Star Saber's son Jean happened to be watching the battle, and noticed that Leozack was missing his breastplate—the Decepticon had accidentally forgotten to bring it with him! Star Saber immediately targeted his opponent's exposed torso with his Saber Blade and sent Leozack fleeing. {{storylink|Leozack Rumbles Violently!}}

Later, Leozack and the other Breastforcers combined into Liokaiser to battle Star Saber on [[Energy Planet X]]. When the combiner warrior managed to seize Star Saber, his individual components began arguing over who would get the right to destroy the Autobot leader; Leozack believed he should get to do it because he was the leader. Star Saber exploited the opening to turn the battle around, and Liokaiser was defeated and escaped. {{storylink|The Star of Friendship, Jean and Star Saber!}} In their next battle with Star Saber, the Breastforce almost had him defeated thanks to the aid of Deathsaurus and Dinoking, but the tables were turned when Star Saber merged with new arrival Victory Leo to form Victory Saber. {{storylink|The Strongest Partners, the Combination of Victory!}}
[[Image:Lyzack-manga.jpg|left|150px|thumb|A female version of me? That's unheard of!]]
In their next battle, Liokaiser and Deathsaurus were defeated by the Autobots' "Five Stars of Victory" attack technique, and Liokaiser split back into Leozack and the rest of the Breastforce to flee back to Deathsaurus's "Space Stronghold". {{storylink|Shine! The Five Stars of Victory}} From the stronghold, the Decepticons began a final attack on Earth, bombarding the planet with meteors, but Deathsaurus made the mistake of leaving Leozack in charge of the fortress while he battled Star Saber in space. Leozack turned the fortress's main cannon upon Deathsaurus ''and'' Star Saber, but before he could finish them off, Deathsaurus blasted the fortress with his [[Living-Metal-Destroying Cannon]]. Star Saber smashed his way into the fortress control room and slashed Leozack with his "Planetary Impulse Sword", but even as the treacherous Decepticon collapsed, he begged the Autobots not to destroy the fortress. Deathsaurus revealed that the fortress was home to the Decepticons' [[Relatives|families]], and as Leozack was cradled by his [[Relatives|sister]] [[Lyzack]], he explained that they had been fighting to keep them safe. Struck by this revelation, Star Saber decided that it was time for the Autobots and Decepticons to lay down their arms and live in peace—the truest victory of all! {{storylink|Heroic! The Victory War}}
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===Timelines: Wings of Honor===
[[Image:WingsofHonor-Skyraiders.jpg|right|thumb|300px|'''"ANIME ATTACK ANNOUNCEMENT ATTACK!"''']]
Leozack was one of the first to volunteer for [[Skyquake (G1)|Skyquake]]'s experimental [[Seeker (body-type)|Skyraider]] body refitting program. His new body was teeming with so many weapons, he lacked the hardware to implement them automatically; instead, he was forced to use verbal commands to use them individually.

Under [[Banzai-Tron (G1)|Banzai-Tron]]'s command, Leozack and his fellow Skyraider warriors Skyquake, [[Hooligan (G2)|Hooligan]], [[Hellbat]], and [[Gaihawk]], followed the Autobot ship ''[[Eight Track]]'' to the planet [[Beta-Nine]], where they hoped to beat them to a mysterious cargo that had crashed there aboard the ''[[Van De Graaff]].'' Leozack, Skyquake, and Hooligan attacked the Autobots, separating the crew's [[Kup (G1)|youngest member]] from them. The Autobots' commander, [[Thunder Clash|Thunderclash]], drove Leozack and the others away with a barrage of firepower, allowing his crew to escape into the trees where the Decepticons would have to fight them on the ground.

Skyquake departed after Thunder Clash and ordered Leozack and Hooligan to kill the remaining two Autobots, [[Landshark]] and [[Flak]]. Flak leapt out at them, demanding a fight, and Leozack was happy to oblige him. Unfortunately, this was a diversion, and once Flak had occupied their attention, Landshark surprised Leozack with a massive punch.

Leozack and the others were defeated and brought back to Cybertron as prisoners. The battle on Beta-Nine began the Autobot/Decepticon civil war. {{storylink|Wings of Honor}}
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==Toys==
===Victory===
[[Image:Victory-toy Leozack.jpg|right|300px|thumb|]]
*'''Leozack''' (Breastforce, 1989)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-329'''
**''Accessories:'' "Lionbreast" Breast Animal, Liokaiser's head

:Leozack transforms into a white and green [[Popular Earth vehicle alternate modes|Grumman F-14 Tomcat jet fighter]]. He came packaged with his Breast Animal partner, the [[Lionbreast]], which transforms from a lion-like robot to either chestplate armor for Leozack (and only Leozack), or the handheld "Leo Cannon" blaster. Leozack combines with his fellow Breastforce warriors (sold separately) to form Liokaiser; he forms the torso and head of the super robot.

: This mold was used to make the [[Autobot]] [[Rescue Force]] [[Rescue Force jet|jet]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1989/Destron/Leozak/leozack.htm More information on Leozack at TFU.info]''

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*'''Liokaiser''' (Gift set, 1989)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''D-335'''

: Leozack was also available in a complete six-piece box set of the entire Breastforce team. All of the toys within are identical to their individual releases. This release does not have [[bio]]/[[Tech Spec]] cards for the individuals, only the combined form.
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===Timelines===
[[Image:Timelinestoy-LeozackWoH.jpg|right|thumb|300px|He stared until he wasn't red in the face.]]
*'''Wings of Honor''' (BotCon attendee figure, 2009)
:*''Accessories:'' Energon sword, energon rifle, 2 missiles

: A [[redeco]] of [[Energon (toyline)|''Energon'']] [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]], Leozack transforms into a jet fighter loosely based upon the F/A-22 Raptor, cast mostly in bright cyan plastics, with white and blue painted on top. He comes with two very large accessories, a sword and a non-firing blaster, which can combine to form a really larger sword and/or non-firing blaster. In jet mode he has two wing-mounted spring-loaded missile launchers, which can flip up over his robot-mode shoulders for "Hyper Mode".

:He was the "attendance freebie" at [[BotCon 2009]], given away one per attending pre-registrant. Additionally, two were given away per purchase of the [[BotCon 2005]] "[[Descent into Evil]]" box set. This offer was so popular that [[Fun Publications]] sold out of all of the "Descent into Evil" sets they had on-hand.

: This mold was also used to make ''Energon'' Energon Starscream and BotCon 2009's [[Skyquake (G1)|Skyquake]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/BCLeozack/leozack.htm More information on Leozack at TFU.info]''
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==Notes==
*According to the [[BotCon 2009]] fanclub fiction panel, the gist of Leozack's characterization in ''Wings of Honor'' came from the authors' desire to portray him as a stereotypical anime character; at one point, [[Rik Alvarez]] even wanted him to speak entirely in Japanese (!). Though nixed for logistical reasons, the basic idea survived in the form of Leozack's dialogue being rendered in a stylized Asiatic typeface.

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Talk:Halonix Maximus

2010-08-11T15:42:12Z

72.79.209.160: /* Need revision work.. */

==A modest proposal==
It would appear the BotCon fiction has given this dude a name (or at least revealed he's a representation of a real dude). I sincerely insist that we avoid any and all references to a particular videogame franchise on the pages featuring said character. (I'm thinking a nice Beyonce joke or two.) [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 08:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
:You'd have to lock the page, as well. There will be people barging in with the video game joke idea. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:10, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
::How about one of those edit-only messages? Locking the page just to prevent a joke seems rather drastic. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 09:15, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
:::Locking it might be reasonable. Exactly what game franchise are we talking about? One that begins with an F comes to mind, but I'm not sure it fits exactly. But then that may be the reason we want to avoid the jokes. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 02:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Tigerpaw: [[Cybertron Elite Guard#Members 2]] --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::Uhm, is there a reason this hasn't been moved yet? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:14, 2 July 2010 (EDT)
::::::Well, yes. I'd been kind of thinking we should wait until he got some actual fiction besides a slide regards the real dude, and I wasn't sure if we should have the real dude and Hound's homage on the same page, or have them on separate pages. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 18:36, 2 July 2010 (EDT)

:::::::I avoided a joke about the video game series, but added a Beyonce joke as the caption. Is "Let me see your giant Autobot hologram" a good caption? --[[User:Kaymac192|Kaymac192]] 14:00, 9 July 2010 (EDT)

== Need revision work.. ==

This needs a major revision now that this guy DOES infact exist and is no longer just a hologram. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 09:49, 11 August 2010 (EDT)
:Well, we'd sort of need to know... ''anything'' about him before we could do that. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:58, 11 August 2010 (EDT)
::Wasn't he [http://rid-nightviper.deviantart.com/journal/33978110/ mentioned in the latest TFCC issue]? Although admittedly I dunno what that involved, as I'm sans sub for the moment. --[[Special:Contributions/72.79.209.160|72.79.209.160]] 11:42, 11 August 2010 (EDT)