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Talk:One Shall Rise, Part 1

2011-10-05T01:58:37Z

74.212.29.189: /* Unicron */

No such luck, boyos. Teletoon's airing a rerun of Predatory. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:02, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
:Huh, weird, I wonder if the Hub got on their backs. Well, I guess we can leave the episode page up so at least people know what's happening. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 15:46, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
::The TVGuide and sattelite listings all listed a new episode, so it seems like a last minute change imposed by the Hub, yes. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:54, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
:::Well, is there any information that may indicate the real airdate? [[Special:Contributions/68.147.45.66|68.147.45.66]] 19:54, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
::::Extrapolating from One Shall Fall's Hub airdate, October 1. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:09, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
:::::...and you were right! [[Special:Contributions/68.147.45.66|68.147.45.66]] 23:36, 4 September 2011 (EDT)
Why you don't make page for part 2, if there is part 1, there should be part 2.--Unregistred Contributor 15:35, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
:This page is pretty bare bones itself, a page for part 2 would be useless as it would have nothing on it. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:51, 3 September 2011 (EDT)

==Title==
Shouldn't it be "One Shall Rise, Part 1", in the same style as "[[Darkness Rising, Part 1]]", etc.? Since they don't show titles in the episodes, we might as well go for consistency. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 10:46, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
:It consistently has it with a dash on MSN and TVGuide.ca, but then it has a colon on the Darkness Rising episodes and we seem to be ignoring those too, so... --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:51, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
::I suppose we'll have to wait for the DVDs or an official listing from Hasbro (or scripts, if we're remarkably lucky) for final confirmation on what punctuation mark to use. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:17, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
:::Yeah, I was using the dash in my storylinks because that's what the info on my DVR used. Hrm. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:00, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

==Airing==
Did it air? --[[Special:Contributions/82.39.157.220|82.39.157.220]] 14:11, 4 September 2011 (EDT)
:As the article says, it did not air and is now scheduled to air on the first of October. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:37, 4 September 2011 (EDT)

==Singapore==
Can we note that it aired in Singapore today? --[[Special:Contributions/82.39.157.220|82.39.157.220]] 12:32, 29 September 2011 (EDT)

== I don't believe we see all thirteen of the Thirteen. ==

In the first picture we're shown, we only see 12 designs, then the in the other two images, there's eleven in each.

[[Media:OneShallRise1-TheThirteen.jpg]] - In this picture, we see eleven clearly, with the twelfth (likely Solus) cut off at the far right. I don't think there was any other character to the far left.

I believe Megatronus hasn't been shown to us. The reason I bring this up is because of the last note on the page "This is the first time in any Transformers franchise where we catch a glimpse of all thirteen of the Original Transformers. Finally."

I don't believe we have. [[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 15:41, 2 October 2011 (EDT)
:Yup, the most we see (at once) is eleven and a half. Unless we see different ones in different shots. Though I actually took the last shot showing a distinct eleven surrounding the Core of Cybertron to signify that Megatronus and the Liege Maximo had both sided with Unicron and had been cast out with him. - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] [[User talk:Queso|Complain here]] 16:38, 2 October 2011 (EDT)
::I dunno. To be honest, the one with the glowing fiery eyes and sparkly by may be Megatronus. He's big and hulking like his BotCon design, and has a rather Decepticon insignia-looking face in the second image. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 16:02, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
:::Or it could be Nexus, who could possess such traits as the guardian of rarified energon. And if Hasbro is sticking with the movie combiner aesthetic that could explain the hulking frame. Megatronus could be the guy with the...Megatron-shaped head. It's all too unclear.{{unsigned|209.51.184.13}}
::::Megatronus was shown at BotCon to be a big hulking guy with a Con logo-styled head, not a Megatron-styled head. And [[Nexus Prime|Nexus' page]] already labels him as the visor dude on the far left of the first image. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 16:35, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
:::::I don't remember him being described as looking like a beast though, while I do remember some reports saying Nexus looked rather beastly. Someone on TFW even said he almost looked like he had fur IIRC. And it wouldn't surprise me if the concept art got changed, or if the art used in the show was actually the concept art and what was shown at Botcon was finalized, and they don't match up. Isn't Vector Prime supposed to look pretty much like his Cybertron design but with a starry cape? And yet here we've got one guy who looks clearly like VP with no cape and a guy with a starry cape who looks nothing like VP.{{unsigned|209.51.184.13}}
::::::The concept art at BotCon isn't going to be 100% helpful, because what's in the Aligned Story Bible isn't going to always (or ever?) match up completely with what gets designed and rendered for the television show. Compare their Optimus Primes and compare their Primas. So we can probably look to the BotCon-revealed designs for clues, but I wouldn't stick to them as Gospel for deciphering who these guys are, no. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:09, 3 October 2011 (EDT)

== Unicron ==

At the end, many stone figures of Unicron come out of the stone around Optimus. This is the only TF series I`ve seen, so can anybody help me out? How can he do that? {{unsigned|74.212.29.189}}
:Because in this series, he Unicron ''is'' the Earth, and has control over it, so he shapes these figures out of his substance. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 13:06, 4 October 2011 (EDT)
::Thanks. Like I said, this is the only TF series I`ve seen. How can Unicron control all of his.... clones at once? {{unsigned|74.212.29.189}}
:::The same way you can control all of your fingers at once. Please take further questions to a forum. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:07, 4 October 2011 (EDT)

Great. You gave me another question, but this time it`s a stupid one. It`s completly unrelated to Unicron. {{unsigned|74.212.29.189}}
:What Interrobang means is that this page is for discussing the article for One Shall Rise, not for general discussion of the episode itself. Wikis aren't really well suited to holding discussions of that type, and you're better off asking on a proper Transformers forum. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:51, 4 October 2011 (EDT)
Sorry....*sheesh I`m only 13! Noone can expect me to know this stuff! Don`t get mad at me.*..... I wanted to know what a forum was. {{unsigned|74.212.29.189}}
:No one's mad! I didn't know that's what your question was. A forum is just another name for a message board. There are quite a few Transformers sites with forums, such as the AllSpark, TFW2005, Seibertron, and TFormers.com. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:39, 4 October 2011 (EDT)
All right. Thanks..... and sorry.

Talk:One Shall Rise, Part 1

2011-10-05T00:27:06Z

74.212.29.189: /* Unicron */

No such luck, boyos. Teletoon's airing a rerun of Predatory. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:02, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
:Huh, weird, I wonder if the Hub got on their backs. Well, I guess we can leave the episode page up so at least people know what's happening. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 15:46, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
::The TVGuide and sattelite listings all listed a new episode, so it seems like a last minute change imposed by the Hub, yes. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:54, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
:::Well, is there any information that may indicate the real airdate? [[Special:Contributions/68.147.45.66|68.147.45.66]] 19:54, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
::::Extrapolating from One Shall Fall's Hub airdate, October 1. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:09, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
:::::...and you were right! [[Special:Contributions/68.147.45.66|68.147.45.66]] 23:36, 4 September 2011 (EDT)
Why you don't make page for part 2, if there is part 1, there should be part 2.--Unregistred Contributor 15:35, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
:This page is pretty bare bones itself, a page for part 2 would be useless as it would have nothing on it. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:51, 3 September 2011 (EDT)

==Title==
Shouldn't it be "One Shall Rise, Part 1", in the same style as "[[Darkness Rising, Part 1]]", etc.? Since they don't show titles in the episodes, we might as well go for consistency. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 10:46, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
:It consistently has it with a dash on MSN and TVGuide.ca, but then it has a colon on the Darkness Rising episodes and we seem to be ignoring those too, so... --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:51, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
::I suppose we'll have to wait for the DVDs or an official listing from Hasbro (or scripts, if we're remarkably lucky) for final confirmation on what punctuation mark to use. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:17, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
:::Yeah, I was using the dash in my storylinks because that's what the info on my DVR used. Hrm. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:00, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

==Airing==
Did it air? --[[Special:Contributions/82.39.157.220|82.39.157.220]] 14:11, 4 September 2011 (EDT)
:As the article says, it did not air and is now scheduled to air on the first of October. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:37, 4 September 2011 (EDT)

==Singapore==
Can we note that it aired in Singapore today? --[[Special:Contributions/82.39.157.220|82.39.157.220]] 12:32, 29 September 2011 (EDT)

== I don't believe we see all thirteen of the Thirteen. ==

In the first picture we're shown, we only see 12 designs, then the in the other two images, there's eleven in each.

[[Media:OneShallRise1-TheThirteen.jpg]] - In this picture, we see eleven clearly, with the twelfth (likely Solus) cut off at the far right. I don't think there was any other character to the far left.

I believe Megatronus hasn't been shown to us. The reason I bring this up is because of the last note on the page "This is the first time in any Transformers franchise where we catch a glimpse of all thirteen of the Original Transformers. Finally."

I don't believe we have. [[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 15:41, 2 October 2011 (EDT)
:Yup, the most we see (at once) is eleven and a half. Unless we see different ones in different shots. Though I actually took the last shot showing a distinct eleven surrounding the Core of Cybertron to signify that Megatronus and the Liege Maximo had both sided with Unicron and had been cast out with him. - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] [[User talk:Queso|Complain here]] 16:38, 2 October 2011 (EDT)
::I dunno. To be honest, the one with the glowing fiery eyes and sparkly by may be Megatronus. He's big and hulking like his BotCon design, and has a rather Decepticon insignia-looking face in the second image. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 16:02, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
:::Or it could be Nexus, who could possess such traits as the guardian of rarified energon. And if Hasbro is sticking with the movie combiner aesthetic that could explain the hulking frame. Megatronus could be the guy with the...Megatron-shaped head. It's all too unclear.{{unsigned|209.51.184.13}}
::::Megatronus was shown at BotCon to be a big hulking guy with a Con logo-styled head, not a Megatron-styled head. And [[Nexus Prime|Nexus' page]] already labels him as the visor dude on the far left of the first image. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 16:35, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
:::::I don't remember him being described as looking like a beast though, while I do remember some reports saying Nexus looked rather beastly. Someone on TFW even said he almost looked like he had fur IIRC. And it wouldn't surprise me if the concept art got changed, or if the art used in the show was actually the concept art and what was shown at Botcon was finalized, and they don't match up. Isn't Vector Prime supposed to look pretty much like his Cybertron design but with a starry cape? And yet here we've got one guy who looks clearly like VP with no cape and a guy with a starry cape who looks nothing like VP.{{unsigned|209.51.184.13}}
::::::The concept art at BotCon isn't going to be 100% helpful, because what's in the Aligned Story Bible isn't going to always (or ever?) match up completely with what gets designed and rendered for the television show. Compare their Optimus Primes and compare their Primas. So we can probably look to the BotCon-revealed designs for clues, but I wouldn't stick to them as Gospel for deciphering who these guys are, no. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:09, 3 October 2011 (EDT)

== Unicron ==

At the end, many stone figures of Unicron come out of the stone around Optimus. This is the only TF series I`ve seen, so can anybody help me out? How can he do that?
:Because in this series, he Unicron ''is'' the Earth, and has control over it, so he shapes these figures out of his substance. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 13:06, 4 October 2011 (EDT)
::Thanks. Like I said, this is the only TF series I`ve seen. How can Unicron control all of his.... clones at once?
:::The same way you can control all of your fingers at once. Please take further questions to a forum. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:07, 4 October 2011 (EDT)

Great. You gave me another question, but this time it`s a stupid one. It`s completly unrelated to Unicron.

Talk:One Shall Rise, Part 1

2011-10-05T00:23:14Z

74.212.29.189: /* Unicron */

No such luck, boyos. Teletoon's airing a rerun of Predatory. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:02, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
:Huh, weird, I wonder if the Hub got on their backs. Well, I guess we can leave the episode page up so at least people know what's happening. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 15:46, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
::The TVGuide and sattelite listings all listed a new episode, so it seems like a last minute change imposed by the Hub, yes. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:54, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
:::Well, is there any information that may indicate the real airdate? [[Special:Contributions/68.147.45.66|68.147.45.66]] 19:54, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
::::Extrapolating from One Shall Fall's Hub airdate, October 1. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:09, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
:::::...and you were right! [[Special:Contributions/68.147.45.66|68.147.45.66]] 23:36, 4 September 2011 (EDT)
Why you don't make page for part 2, if there is part 1, there should be part 2.--Unregistred Contributor 15:35, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
:This page is pretty bare bones itself, a page for part 2 would be useless as it would have nothing on it. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:51, 3 September 2011 (EDT)

==Title==
Shouldn't it be "One Shall Rise, Part 1", in the same style as "[[Darkness Rising, Part 1]]", etc.? Since they don't show titles in the episodes, we might as well go for consistency. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 10:46, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
:It consistently has it with a dash on MSN and TVGuide.ca, but then it has a colon on the Darkness Rising episodes and we seem to be ignoring those too, so... --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:51, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
::I suppose we'll have to wait for the DVDs or an official listing from Hasbro (or scripts, if we're remarkably lucky) for final confirmation on what punctuation mark to use. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:17, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
:::Yeah, I was using the dash in my storylinks because that's what the info on my DVR used. Hrm. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:00, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

==Airing==
Did it air? --[[Special:Contributions/82.39.157.220|82.39.157.220]] 14:11, 4 September 2011 (EDT)
:As the article says, it did not air and is now scheduled to air on the first of October. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:37, 4 September 2011 (EDT)

==Singapore==
Can we note that it aired in Singapore today? --[[Special:Contributions/82.39.157.220|82.39.157.220]] 12:32, 29 September 2011 (EDT)

== I don't believe we see all thirteen of the Thirteen. ==

In the first picture we're shown, we only see 12 designs, then the in the other two images, there's eleven in each.

[[Media:OneShallRise1-TheThirteen.jpg]] - In this picture, we see eleven clearly, with the twelfth (likely Solus) cut off at the far right. I don't think there was any other character to the far left.

I believe Megatronus hasn't been shown to us. The reason I bring this up is because of the last note on the page "This is the first time in any Transformers franchise where we catch a glimpse of all thirteen of the Original Transformers. Finally."

I don't believe we have. [[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 15:41, 2 October 2011 (EDT)
:Yup, the most we see (at once) is eleven and a half. Unless we see different ones in different shots. Though I actually took the last shot showing a distinct eleven surrounding the Core of Cybertron to signify that Megatronus and the Liege Maximo had both sided with Unicron and had been cast out with him. - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] [[User talk:Queso|Complain here]] 16:38, 2 October 2011 (EDT)
::I dunno. To be honest, the one with the glowing fiery eyes and sparkly by may be Megatronus. He's big and hulking like his BotCon design, and has a rather Decepticon insignia-looking face in the second image. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 16:02, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
:::Or it could be Nexus, who could possess such traits as the guardian of rarified energon. And if Hasbro is sticking with the movie combiner aesthetic that could explain the hulking frame. Megatronus could be the guy with the...Megatron-shaped head. It's all too unclear.{{unsigned|209.51.184.13}}
::::Megatronus was shown at BotCon to be a big hulking guy with a Con logo-styled head, not a Megatron-styled head. And [[Nexus Prime|Nexus' page]] already labels him as the visor dude on the far left of the first image. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 16:35, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
:::::I don't remember him being described as looking like a beast though, while I do remember some reports saying Nexus looked rather beastly. Someone on TFW even said he almost looked like he had fur IIRC. And it wouldn't surprise me if the concept art got changed, or if the art used in the show was actually the concept art and what was shown at Botcon was finalized, and they don't match up. Isn't Vector Prime supposed to look pretty much like his Cybertron design but with a starry cape? And yet here we've got one guy who looks clearly like VP with no cape and a guy with a starry cape who looks nothing like VP.{{unsigned|209.51.184.13}}
::::::The concept art at BotCon isn't going to be 100% helpful, because what's in the Aligned Story Bible isn't going to always (or ever?) match up completely with what gets designed and rendered for the television show. Compare their Optimus Primes and compare their Primas. So we can probably look to the BotCon-revealed designs for clues, but I wouldn't stick to them as Gospel for deciphering who these guys are, no. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:09, 3 October 2011 (EDT)

== Unicron ==

At the end, many stone figures of Unicron come out of the stone around Optimus. This is the only TF series I`ve seen, so can anybody help me out? How can he do that?
:Because in this series, he Unicron ''is'' the Earth, and has control over it, so he shapes these figures out of his substance. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 13:06, 4 October 2011 (EDT)
::Thanks. Like I said, this is the only TF series I`ve seen. How can Unicron control all of his.... clones at once?
:::The same way you can control all of your fingers at once. Please take further questions to a forum. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:07, 4 October 2011 (EDT)

Great. You gave me another question, but this time it`s a stupid one.

Talk:One Shall Rise, Part 1

2011-10-04T23:57:24Z

74.212.29.189: /* Unicron */

No such luck, boyos. Teletoon's airing a rerun of Predatory. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:02, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
:Huh, weird, I wonder if the Hub got on their backs. Well, I guess we can leave the episode page up so at least people know what's happening. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 15:46, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
::The TVGuide and sattelite listings all listed a new episode, so it seems like a last minute change imposed by the Hub, yes. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:54, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
:::Well, is there any information that may indicate the real airdate? [[Special:Contributions/68.147.45.66|68.147.45.66]] 19:54, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
::::Extrapolating from One Shall Fall's Hub airdate, October 1. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:09, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
:::::...and you were right! [[Special:Contributions/68.147.45.66|68.147.45.66]] 23:36, 4 September 2011 (EDT)
Why you don't make page for part 2, if there is part 1, there should be part 2.--Unregistred Contributor 15:35, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
:This page is pretty bare bones itself, a page for part 2 would be useless as it would have nothing on it. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:51, 3 September 2011 (EDT)

==Title==
Shouldn't it be "One Shall Rise, Part 1", in the same style as "[[Darkness Rising, Part 1]]", etc.? Since they don't show titles in the episodes, we might as well go for consistency. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 10:46, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
:It consistently has it with a dash on MSN and TVGuide.ca, but then it has a colon on the Darkness Rising episodes and we seem to be ignoring those too, so... --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:51, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
::I suppose we'll have to wait for the DVDs or an official listing from Hasbro (or scripts, if we're remarkably lucky) for final confirmation on what punctuation mark to use. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:17, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
:::Yeah, I was using the dash in my storylinks because that's what the info on my DVR used. Hrm. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:00, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

==Airing==
Did it air? --[[Special:Contributions/82.39.157.220|82.39.157.220]] 14:11, 4 September 2011 (EDT)
:As the article says, it did not air and is now scheduled to air on the first of October. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:37, 4 September 2011 (EDT)

==Singapore==
Can we note that it aired in Singapore today? --[[Special:Contributions/82.39.157.220|82.39.157.220]] 12:32, 29 September 2011 (EDT)

== I don't believe we see all thirteen of the Thirteen. ==

In the first picture we're shown, we only see 12 designs, then the in the other two images, there's eleven in each.

[[Media:OneShallRise1-TheThirteen.jpg]] - In this picture, we see eleven clearly, with the twelfth (likely Solus) cut off at the far right. I don't think there was any other character to the far left.

I believe Megatronus hasn't been shown to us. The reason I bring this up is because of the last note on the page "This is the first time in any Transformers franchise where we catch a glimpse of all thirteen of the Original Transformers. Finally."

I don't believe we have. [[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 15:41, 2 October 2011 (EDT)
:Yup, the most we see (at once) is eleven and a half. Unless we see different ones in different shots. Though I actually took the last shot showing a distinct eleven surrounding the Core of Cybertron to signify that Megatronus and the Liege Maximo had both sided with Unicron and had been cast out with him. - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] [[User talk:Queso|Complain here]] 16:38, 2 October 2011 (EDT)
::I dunno. To be honest, the one with the glowing fiery eyes and sparkly by may be Megatronus. He's big and hulking like his BotCon design, and has a rather Decepticon insignia-looking face in the second image. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 16:02, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
:::Or it could be Nexus, who could possess such traits as the guardian of rarified energon. And if Hasbro is sticking with the movie combiner aesthetic that could explain the hulking frame. Megatronus could be the guy with the...Megatron-shaped head. It's all too unclear.{{unsigned|209.51.184.13}}
::::Megatronus was shown at BotCon to be a big hulking guy with a Con logo-styled head, not a Megatron-styled head. And [[Nexus Prime|Nexus' page]] already labels him as the visor dude on the far left of the first image. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 16:35, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
:::::I don't remember him being described as looking like a beast though, while I do remember some reports saying Nexus looked rather beastly. Someone on TFW even said he almost looked like he had fur IIRC. And it wouldn't surprise me if the concept art got changed, or if the art used in the show was actually the concept art and what was shown at Botcon was finalized, and they don't match up. Isn't Vector Prime supposed to look pretty much like his Cybertron design but with a starry cape? And yet here we've got one guy who looks clearly like VP with no cape and a guy with a starry cape who looks nothing like VP.{{unsigned|209.51.184.13}}
::::::The concept art at BotCon isn't going to be 100% helpful, because what's in the Aligned Story Bible isn't going to always (or ever?) match up completely with what gets designed and rendered for the television show. Compare their Optimus Primes and compare their Primas. So we can probably look to the BotCon-revealed designs for clues, but I wouldn't stick to them as Gospel for deciphering who these guys are, no. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:09, 3 October 2011 (EDT)

== Unicron ==

At the end, many stone figures of Unicron come out of the stone around Optimus. This is the only TF series I`ve seen, so can anybody help me out? How can he do that?
:Because in this series, he Unicron ''is'' the Earth, and has control over it, so he shapes these figures out of his substance. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 13:06, 4 October 2011 (EDT)
Thanks. Like I said, this is the only TF series I`ve seen.
How can Unicron control all of his.... clones at once?

Talk:Partners (Prime)

2011-10-04T19:21:20Z

74.212.29.189: /* Starscream */

Are Bumblebee's optics really an error? I can't help but think it must be intentional, or someone on the production team would surely have noticed by now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:16, 24 July 2011 (EDT)

==Trivia==
"This is the second episode in a row involving a plot point emphasising that Autobots don't murder Decepticons if they can avoid it, less than a month after some high profile evidence to the contrary. " - What does Bayformers Autobots killing spree have to do with Prime Autobots rules? Was it ever said it's a multiversal policy? I don't get why this should be pointed out.
:That bit was added by an anon and the kind of nonsense that has no place on the tfwiki. However, apparently the regular editors hadn't noticed it yet(it was followed up by another nonsense edit, which likely obscured it), so it hadn't been removed. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 06:49, 28 July 2011 (EDT)

== Larry ==

It said he died at age 70 in march this year, but Peter just turned seventy a few days ago, so either Larry was older, Or Peter was'nt born in 1941.--[[Special:Contributions/142.68.40.134|142.68.40.134]] 20:25, 1 August 2011 (EDT)
:If Larry had been born on 26 March 1940 he would still have been 70 years old when he died on 25 March 2011 and he would have been 16 months older than Peter, so it is still possible. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:33, 1 August 2011 (EDT)

== Starscream ==

So far, this is the last episode between T.M.I. and One Shall Rise part 1 we see Starscream. Why is that? Wouldn`t Megatron be wondering where his second-in-command is or does he not care anymore? He`s had several chances to ask if the autobots had him and he never asked. We have to wonder where he dussapear to since leaving the `cons.

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Talk:One Shall Rise, Part 1

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No such luck, boyos. Teletoon's airing a rerun of Predatory. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:02, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
:Huh, weird, I wonder if the Hub got on their backs. Well, I guess we can leave the episode page up so at least people know what's happening. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 15:46, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
::The TVGuide and sattelite listings all listed a new episode, so it seems like a last minute change imposed by the Hub, yes. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:54, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
:::Well, is there any information that may indicate the real airdate? [[Special:Contributions/68.147.45.66|68.147.45.66]] 19:54, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
::::Extrapolating from One Shall Fall's Hub airdate, October 1. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:09, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
:::::...and you were right! [[Special:Contributions/68.147.45.66|68.147.45.66]] 23:36, 4 September 2011 (EDT)
Why you don't make page for part 2, if there is part 1, there should be part 2.--Unregistred Contributor 15:35, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
:This page is pretty bare bones itself, a page for part 2 would be useless as it would have nothing on it. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:51, 3 September 2011 (EDT)

==Title==
Shouldn't it be "One Shall Rise, Part 1", in the same style as "[[Darkness Rising, Part 1]]", etc.? Since they don't show titles in the episodes, we might as well go for consistency. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 10:46, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
:It consistently has it with a dash on MSN and TVGuide.ca, but then it has a colon on the Darkness Rising episodes and we seem to be ignoring those too, so... --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:51, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
::I suppose we'll have to wait for the DVDs or an official listing from Hasbro (or scripts, if we're remarkably lucky) for final confirmation on what punctuation mark to use. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:17, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
:::Yeah, I was using the dash in my storylinks because that's what the info on my DVR used. Hrm. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:00, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

==Airing==
Did it air? --[[Special:Contributions/82.39.157.220|82.39.157.220]] 14:11, 4 September 2011 (EDT)
:As the article says, it did not air and is now scheduled to air on the first of October. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:37, 4 September 2011 (EDT)

==Singapore==
Can we note that it aired in Singapore today? --[[Special:Contributions/82.39.157.220|82.39.157.220]] 12:32, 29 September 2011 (EDT)

== I don't believe we see all thirteen of the Thirteen. ==

In the first picture we're shown, we only see 12 designs, then the in the other two images, there's eleven in each.

[[Media:OneShallRise1-TheThirteen.jpg]] - In this picture, we see eleven clearly, with the twelfth (likely Solus) cut off at the far right. I don't think there was any other character to the far left.

I believe Megatronus hasn't been shown to us. The reason I bring this up is because of the last note on the page "This is the first time in any Transformers franchise where we catch a glimpse of all thirteen of the Original Transformers. Finally."

I don't believe we have. [[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 15:41, 2 October 2011 (EDT)
:Yup, the most we see (at once) is eleven and a half. Unless we see different ones in different shots. Though I actually took the last shot showing a distinct eleven surrounding the Core of Cybertron to signify that Megatronus and the Liege Maximo had both sided with Unicron and had been cast out with him. - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] [[User talk:Queso|Complain here]] 16:38, 2 October 2011 (EDT)
::I dunno. To be honest, the one with the glowing fiery eyes and sparkly by may be Megatronus. He's big and hulking like his BotCon design, and has a rather Decepticon insignia-looking face in the second image. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 16:02, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
:::Or it could be Nexus, who could possess such traits as the guardian of rarified energon. And if Hasbro is sticking with the movie combiner aesthetic that could explain the hulking frame. Megatronus could be the guy with the...Megatron-shaped head. It's all too unclear.{{unsigned|209.51.184.13}}
::::Megatronus was shown at BotCon to be a big hulking guy with a Con logo-styled head, not a Megatron-styled head. And [[Nexus Prime|Nexus' page]] already labels him as the visor dude on the far left of the first image. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 16:35, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
:::::I don't remember him being described as looking like a beast though, while I do remember some reports saying Nexus looked rather beastly. Someone on TFW even said he almost looked like he had fur IIRC. And it wouldn't surprise me if the concept art got changed, or if the art used in the show was actually the concept art and what was shown at Botcon was finalized, and they don't match up. Isn't Vector Prime supposed to look pretty much like his Cybertron design but with a starry cape? And yet here we've got one guy who looks clearly like VP with no cape and a guy with a starry cape who looks nothing like VP.{{unsigned|209.51.184.13}}
::::::The concept art at BotCon isn't going to be 100% helpful, because what's in the Aligned Story Bible isn't going to always (or ever?) match up completely with what gets designed and rendered for the television show. Compare their Optimus Primes and compare their Primas. So we can probably look to the BotCon-revealed designs for clues, but I wouldn't stick to them as Gospel for deciphering who these guys are, no. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:09, 3 October 2011 (EDT)

== Unicron ==

At the end, many stone figures of Unicron come out of the stone around Optimus. This is the only TF series I`ve seen, so can anybody help me out? How can he do that?
:Because in this series, he Unicron ''is'' the Earth, and has control over it, so he shapes these figures out of his substance. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 13:06, 4 October 2011 (EDT)
Thanks. Like I said, this is the only TF series I`ve seen.

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*"Jack's first race with Vince takes place after school, and Jack and Arcee presumably go to the Autobot base afterward. Somehow, Miko and Raf, who're already at the base, have heard about Jack's victory at school. "

I have trouble with this as a continuity error. Miko says "It's all over school". In the world of texting, news of the race spreading through school doesn't mean that it HAS to spread through the physical school. Just that now everyone from school knows about it. The only assumption we really need to make is that Miko and Raph were outside the Autobot base for some time after school (since the base does not get reception). {{unsigned|173.32.150.22}}

*How could Knock Out mistake Vince for "Bumblebee's human friend" ? Didn't he see Jack in his mirror ?

No, he didn't. All Knock Out saw in his rear-view mirror was the light created by Vince's headlights under the bridge. Besides, it's doubtful Knock Out is able to figure out which human is which anyway. {{unsigned|173.32.150.22}}
:I presume that error is referring to the fact that Jack ran up from beside the bridge while Knock Out was still in the process of driving off. If he'd been aware of Jack, it should at least have caused him to doubt that the human he'd just taken prison was the right one. I suspect that KO was too busy being proud of himself to notice Jack though. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:49, 15 April 2011 (EDT)

*Has anyone else noticed that Knock Out demands that Breakdown buff the arm that /wasn't/ scratched?

I don`t think Knock Out was talking to Breakdown. I think he was talking to Starscream.

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I was watching this episode, and I noticed Ratchet uses Energon to heal Raf from Bumblebee, who possibly needs it himself considering he was shot by Megatron (and, of course, he might be infected with Dark Energon himself), instead of using some from another, healthier Autobot, such as Arcee or Bulkhead. I was wondering whether this is worth noting in the article, and if so, where it should go. [[User:GluttonyReaper|GluttonyReaper]] 19:11, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Just curious, but is it worth mentioning the similarities between the scene where Knockout's checking out his fingernails in the background, to a similar scene involving Airazor from the Beast Wars episode, ''Spider's Game'', as seen here? [http://www.insecticons.com/screencapsbw/images/S-Waspy-02.jpg] I'm not saying it's an homage (I know a lot of people abuse that phrase around here), but it is a pretty interesting coincidence given their similarities... - [[User:Boy Blunderous|Boy Blunderous]] 12:48, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

:I agree, it's probably not an intended homage, but the two scenes are quite similar... [[User:GluttonyReaper|GluttonyReaper]] 16:51, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

== Are we sure we want to assume it's Unicron? ==

I thought this wiki was against "assumptions" or "implications", and instead waited for a direct confirmation (which we don't have yet on this subject). I feel we shouldn't be directly connecting to Unicron (yet) until we've seen something truly more concrete, not everything always as it ''seems''. [[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 06:08, 31 August 2011 (EDT)

:Dark Energon is refered to as The Blood Of Unicron, so it's probably safe to make the connection there. However, there is a link in the article that points out that the face in Megatron's vision is Unicron. This is much less certain, and probably shouldn't be there. [[User:GluttonyReaper|GluttonyReaper]] 13:07, 31 August 2011 (EDT)

::We've seen what the Fallen looks like, and the face ain't his. I'm not sure whose else it could be. ...especially with it being an orange and gray guy with a beard, spikes and horns. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 31 August 2011 (EDT)
:::We've seen what concept art for the Fallen looks like in the Aligned universe, but not for what franchise. While I realize following Occam's Razor is generally safe, I thought this wiki was against that and needed something concrete instead of "probably". [[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 05:32, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
::::I think if it looks like a goose and it honks like a goose, it's fairly safe to say it's a goose pending evidence to the contrary. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:38, 3 September 2011 (EDT)

== Whaddaya think: ref or coincidence? ==

Is Megatron's partial redeco at the end of this ep at all influenced by his similarly hued new body in the IDW books? (black w/ purple glowing energon stripes) The timing makes it seem possible, though I question whether the animators are paying any attention to some comic book. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 23:27, 3 October 2011 (EDT)

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