Talk:Cliffhanger

2012-02-21T11:20:23Z

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Is this article really necessary? Seems rather TVTropes-y and not in the good way. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:14, 20 February 2012 (EST)

:I'd say it's a little too much of a dictionary entry. There's too many episodes/seasons that end this way, and there's not much to say about them that is TF centric. I vote that we delete it. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:24, 20 February 2012 (EST)

::That's why I only use "Notable examples" instead of putting all of it into the article, which is I'm against. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 20:27, 20 February 2012 (EST)

:::Yeah, but what's the point? How is this uniquely Transformersy? Transformers media also sometimes employs, I dunno, In Media Res, should we make an article for that? I vote deletion.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 20:55, 20 February 2012 (EST)

::::Just like to know (in order to avoid creating another argument next time), how do we determine whether a [[:Category:Media|Media article]] is okay to be created on TFwiki? Such as [[clip show]], [[animation error]] or [[Introdump]], which are also seen in other franchise? --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 21:24, 20 February 2012 (EST)
:::::Looking at the existing pages, it seems like the criterion is "Is it an aspect that is mentioned by the fandom or other people a lot?" The original series is notorious for errors, the clip shows get mentioned a lot, Marvel is notorious for its infodumps, etc.
:::::In contrast, I don't think TF has cliffhangers that are considered particularly notable in any way. --[[Special:Contributions/74.70.240.165|74.70.240.165]] 06:20, 21 February 2012 (EST)

Talk:Laserbeak (SG)

2012-02-13T19:17:27Z

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==Identity Crisis==
So what makes us so sure that this isn't [[Buzzsaw (SG)|Buzzsaw]]? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 11:59, 19 July 2009 (EDT)
:Good question, especially since "Shattered Expectations" Laserbeak uses a gold and blue color scheme, which matches up better with the all-gold that "Buzzsaw" has. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:22, 19 July 2009 (EDT)
::Yes but how do we know that the one we identify as Buzzsaw isn't Laserbeak? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 12:24, 19 July 2009 (EDT)
:::That was my point, actually. That I think SG "Buzzsaw"'s gold color scheme matches up better with SE Laserbeak than SG "Laserbeak"'s red and white does. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:30, 19 July 2009 (EDT)
::::Yes I understood that, but my point was what tells us that the red one is Laserbeak, while the gold one is Buzzsaw, both haven't been officially named. I think we should add that to the notes.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 15:52, 19 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::I guess what I was really trying to say is, I think we got it wrong, or at least made the poorer of two guesses, unless someone has some other info on the matter. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:55, 19 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::It is a damned question though. I say LIGBIR!:P But as you mentioned the SE Laserbeak matches the Buzzsaw a lot more than this red bird, was his name officially revealed as Laserbeak or did we just assume it's him? Cos if it's the later we could at least move that part to Buzzsaw. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:01, 19 July 2009 (EDT)

Expectations Laserbeak was yellow and blue to match Armada Laserbeak. Regular Shattered glass LB and BS seem to have been created with no connection/thought back to that at all, simply reflecting the colors of the Autobot tapes Steeljaw and Ramhorn. Since the assignment of colors to SG LB and BS seems to have disregarded Expectations I think the correct choice was made to follow Occum's razor and assume the red one is still LB and the gold one BS untill there's any reason to think otherwise --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.72.27|76.28.72.27]] 16:10, 19 July 2009 (EDT)

::As the originator of this page I just called it as I saw it at the time - Red Laserbeak and Gold Buzzsaw - but I have no real attachment to them being that way round. I always saw SE Laserbeak as a separate character, tbh, though given that they're both essentially one-panel cameos, it's hard to call either way. I'm certainly not going to cry foul if the pictures get swapped around, I'll go with consensus. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 08:50, 28 July 2009 (EDT)

==Hipster Status==
I feel like I have to ask: [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fridge/TransformersShatteredGlass Is this person correct]? --[[Special:Contributions/74.70.240.165|74.70.240.165]] 14:17, 13 February 2012 (EST)

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