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I will leave you with one question and you must think ''really'' hard about it... What is a '''normal''' Transfomer fan?

if you receve this message you rock AWT88 and you should have a chatt room haa haa you rock

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{{notachatroom}}
Better places to do this, y'know?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:26, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:may be i'll take the info i put on the tfa toyline page and give it to a nother websight {{unsigned|75.17.127.110|19:41, 4 June 2009}}
::You go ahead and do that. Learn a little bit of grammar too.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 19:44, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:::i know i am bad at grammer but do tou want the info i put or not{{unsigned|75.17.127.110|19:47, 4 June 2009}}

not trying to be mean but your not being verry nice are you and you need a chatt room that would get you more views{{unsigned|75.17.127.110|19:48, 4 June 2009 }}
:Oh, suddenly this makes a lot of sense. Not your idea, but more the revelation of who you are.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:51, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
::The same anon from yesterday, no?--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 19:53, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:::Yeah, and he admitted as much. I was replying to that, but there was an edit conflict as he revised his statement. I'm not going to ban him, as he's already IP hopped once and he's not a ''vandal'' per se, just someone who should straighten their behavior up a bit more.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:57, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

ok the last statement made no sence explain please

wate what are you talking about{{unsigned|75.17.127.110|19:55, 4 June 2009}}
:I am talking about the fact that you are [[User talk:99.182.80.235|this guy]].--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:57, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

wooow i realy did not think you would realise it was me
:Same spelling and grammar skills, and bitching about a chat room. A little more than coincidental.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 20:01, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:Yeah, that disguise was about as effective as Sky-Byte's red sportscar disguise. Which is to say, not at all. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:08, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

here is just one comment that you can anwser, you don't have to if you don't want to but how old are you
:Do you believe it is of precedence to this?--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 20:05, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

explain what the 3rd to the last word ment
:Look it up. It's what dictionaries are for. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:08, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

i have people for that and now that i know what it means...of course it does not have anything to do with the last staements but it can explain a lot of things for me
:Such as what? My attitude, my rugged, boyish good looks, sense of humor. I'd really like to know what it would explain to you.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 20:13, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

wait how can you have boyish good looks if you are a girl

and it would explain to me your attitude
:Now you questioning my gender, very grownup of you. If you want to insult another user, try to think of something a little more harsh. It fucks with their head more. And no, it probably won't explain my attitude.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 20:19, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
wait how old do you think i am
:Thirteen, fourteen, somewhere around that number. You should really work on your grammar and vocabulary homework a lot more. English is my second language and even when I was that age myself, I still managed to use it better than you, from Dallas, Texas, USA. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:22, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
::At least you're guessing Detour, 'cause I don't give damn about how old anyone here is. He can be 7 or an octogenarian, I just don't care.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 20:26, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:::True enough. I just figured he wouldn't drop the subject until ''someone'' guessed, so I figured I'd get that out of the way. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:27, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
forget the fucking english i know i suck at it.... you are a great gueser i just turned 13 on monday

so who is the new dude i mean the detour guy
:Detour, take over if you want. I'm done with this stuff, I got some more stuff to do before the sun goes down. Have fun.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 20:32, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

i got to go to see you later bitches

wait i gots verry bored ok what other stuff did the awt88 have to do

ok not respondinjg to me is just mean i was starting to think that you guys were cool but never mind on that statement

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Hey, all that stuff about "Samurai Prowl" is more or less already at [[Prowl (Animated)]]. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:50, 2 June 2009 (EDT)
:id like to see you do beter on making a page on samurai prowl because i know for a fact people want a page on him so if you can do better you can have the plessure of making the page your self
::He's the EXACT same character wearing armour. The exact same. Might as well give Alternators Grimlock or Beast Wars Grimlock their own page. New toy, not a new character. Samurai Prowl=Prowl in samurai armour, not a wholly new Prowl who wears armour [[User:Eire]] 00.06 June 4 09 (UTC)

{{notachatroom}}
Knock it off over on Wreck-Gar's talkpage.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:16, 3 June 2009 (EDT)
:Do you think we should do this with him and Harley over on [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl's]] talk page, and then nuke that entire section?--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 19:19, 3 June 2009 (EDT)

first of all i know that samurai prowl and prowl are the same person then aatleast well just never mined but on wreck-gar's page it is true i can not lie he is really stupid.

just a nother quick thing are you getting on to every one else that is saying bad stuff about transformers. i mean i love all transformers but some are just lacking intelagence
:That's *beautiful*. I should make that last line a sig somewhere. Look, if you're serious about contributing here, I'd highly recommend getting a spell checker and studying basic grammar, you're not going to cut it here. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 19:42, 3 June 2009 (EDT)
::Some basic tact, like not getting in revert wars and throwing around 'gay' as an insult would help too. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 19:44, 3 June 2009 (EDT)
:::We have nothing against you, we just point out the people who create useless pages, useless edits, etc. Also, we get on people who just can't seem to get a full grasp of the English language or grammar for that matter. You are aware that most browsers have a spell check feature when it comes to any kind of written text, right? There's certain transformers that I don't like (and I'm sure everyone has at least one character in that category), but we don't turn talk pages into chat rooms, or vandalize pages. Hope that helps.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 19:49, 3 June 2009 (EDT)

cool but what i am saying is that there are others to i personaly don't know them but i am not the only one.

if you like ideas i have one.

if you would like to know the idea just tell me.
:I just pointed that out. If you wanna complain about characters that you don't like or the ones you do, make a user page and put it there. If you continue to keep messing with Wreck-Gar's talk page--or any other page for that matter without adding helpful information--the admins probably won't think twice about punishment.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 20:01, 3 June 2009 (EDT)

there is just one proble i did not write anything else on wreck-gar page i promise

and my idea was to open a chat site im not saying for insultes in saying for just talking about your favorite transformers topics.

hey dude i am sorry for all the trouble that i caused today i just think that you should open a chat sight about transformers i think it it would be in every ones best interest that there be a chat sight on this websight and if you don't belive me just take a pole. and i'm sorry if it seems like im telling you how to do your job, im really telling you how to improve your website.

hey dude

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Better places to do this, y'know?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:26, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:may be i'll take the info i put on the tfa toyline page and give it to a nother websight {{unsigned|75.17.127.110|19:41, 4 June 2009}}
::You go ahead and do that. Learn a little bit of grammar too.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 19:44, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:::i know i am bad at grammer but do tou want the info i put or not{{unsigned|75.17.127.110|19:47, 4 June 2009}}

not trying to be mean but your not being verry nice are you and you need a chatt room that would get you more views{{unsigned|75.17.127.110|19:48, 4 June 2009 }}
:Oh, suddenly this makes a lot of sense. Not your idea, but more the revelation of who you are.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:51, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
::The same anon from yesterday, no?--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 19:53, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:::Yeah, and he admitted as much. I was replying to that, but there was an edit conflict as he revised his statement. I'm not going to ban him, as he's already IP hopped once and he's not a ''vandal'' per se, just someone who should straighten their behavior up a bit more.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:57, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

ok the last statement made no sence explain please

wate what are you talking about{{unsigned|75.17.127.110|19:55, 4 June 2009}}
:I am talking about the fact that you are [[User talk:99.182.80.235|this guy]].--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:57, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

wooow i realy did not think you would realise it was me
:Same spelling and grammar skills, and bitching about a chat room. A little more than coincidental.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 20:01, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:Yeah, that disguise was about as effective as Sky-Byte's red sportscar disguise. Which is to say, not at all. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:08, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

here is just one comment that you can anwser, you don't have to if you don't want to but how old are you
:Do you believe it is of precedence to this?--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 20:05, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

explain what the 3rd to the last word ment
:Look it up. It's what dictionaries are for. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:08, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

i have people for that and now that i know what it means...of course it does not have anything to do with the last staements but it can explain a lot of things for me
:Such as what? My attitude, my rugged, boyish good looks, sense of humor. I'd really like to know what it would explain to you.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 20:13, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

wait how can you have boyish good looks if you are a girl

and it would explain to me your attitude
:Now you questioning my gender, very grownup of you. If you want to insult another user, try to think of something a little more harsh. It fucks with their head more. And no, it probably won't explain my attitude.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 20:19, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
wait how old do you think i am
:Thirteen, fourteen, somewhere around that number. You should really work on your grammar and vocabulary homework a lot more. English is my second language and even when I was that age myself, I still managed to use it better than you, from Dallas, Texas, USA. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:22, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
forget the fucking english i know i suck at it.... you are a great gueser i just turned 13 on monday

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Better places to do this, y'know?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:26, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
may be i'll take the info i put on the tfa toyline page and give it to a nother websight
:You go ahead and do that. Learn a little bit of grammar too.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 19:44, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
i know i am bad at grammer but do tou want the info i put or not

not trying to be mean but your not being verry nice are you and you need a chatt room that would get you more views

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==Early Stuff==
You know, I wasn't going to say anything, but you're getting a little too kneejerk about other people's kneejerk reactions. The list of previous series is fine and adaquately snarky, but is the "OMFG NAFF PASS END OF FRANCHISE SUX GONNA KILL TFS BARF CRAP" really needed? Just seems a bit more negatively charged than the wiki really needs.--[[User:UndeadScottsman|UndeadScottsman]] 05:39, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
:And I would have just edited it out, but I figured it would be more productive to discuss it first. 'Course, it seems Rotty took care of it anyway. :D--[[User:UndeadScottsman|UndeadScottsman]] 06:14, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

This article should really be at [[Animated]], shouldn't it? We don't have anything at [[Cybertron (franchise)|Transformers Cybertron]], [[Armada (franchise)|Transformers Armada]], etc. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:24, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
: I dunno. Considering the size of "Animated" compared to the REST of the logo... --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 06:29, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

:I think it should remain [[Transformers Animated]]. Just [[Animated]] is too confusing, and we can justifiably called it Transformers Animated by the logo. Go with the less confusing one. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 06:55, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

::It's confusing ANYWAY, since we now have the term "Transformers Animated continuity" to refer to Transformers Animated and "Animated continuity" to refer to the G1 cartoons. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 06:58, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

:::Well if we just went with [[Animated]] we'd have an article named [[Animated (cartoon)]]. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:19, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
::::And if this franchise gets a comic, we'll have the "Animated animated continuity" and the "Animated comics continuity." Heh. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 09:00, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

::::And then if there's an official Flash animated comic strip, we'd have "animated continuity", "Animated animated continuity", "Animated comic continuity", and "animated comic continuity". -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 09:34, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

==TFA abbreviation?==

I think, because of how common a word "animated" is and how many things on this Wiki it could refer to we should stick to the full "Transformers: Animated" to avoid confusion or weirdness. I'd also suggest the abreviation "TFA" to be its descriptor, thusly [[Optimus Prime (TFA)]].--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 11:01, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

:I don't know. I'd prefer to stick with Animated. We could always change other uses of the phrase "animated continuity" to "cartoon continuity" if it became too confusing. Which might be a good idea anyway, given the use of (cartoon) for article titles. At any rate, we've got quite a a bit of time before we'll actually need to start making articles about this franchise. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 12:59, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

::I know it seems to be the way we're going, and so be it if so, but I want to state that, convention be damned, I really think refering to this continuity as JUST "Animated" is both counterintuitive and uneedingly confusing. There are times when breaking convention serves everyone better. The chategory "Animated characters" for instance is just screaming to be missunderstood. I just think the full Transformers: Animated, TF: Animated, or abreviating TFA would all be better choices. Just wanted to say it, however we finally choose to go.--ZacWilliam 03:24, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't see how "Transformers Animated characters" is any less confusing than "Animated characters" to a casual browser. It's not like that adjective narrows anything down on this wiki. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:03, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
::::Perhaps not, but [[Transformers: Animated]] is considerably less confusing than either. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:10, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::Except the series isn't "Transformers: Animated". The press materials call it --and even THEY put it in quotes-- "Transformers Animated". --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 04:34, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::That's their problem. Why does that necessarily dictate our category names?
::::::We use <nowiki>[[Category: Beast Wars]] and not [[Category: Beast Wars Transformers]]</nowiki> even though the latter is the name of the franchise. We adjusted it to fit our needs. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:43, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I was going to abbreviate this series "AN," until I realized that talking about "AN episode" or "AN Optimus Prime" just makes you look like you're trying to be a hairsplitter. Transformers has been ruined, or at least my system of talking about it. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 15:17, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::::: Worse what hapens when there are multiple and you have to talk about "an AN episode" or "An An Optimus" that's just plain aweful. That's why I'm saying "TFA" I mean "TFA Megatron" or a "TFA episode" works fine.--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 15:44, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::::: You mean Transformers Armada Megatron or a Transformers Armada episode? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:24, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::Well, if "Arm" and "UT" weren't pretty well established maybe, even so I'd call it the less confusing of the options other than just using the whole word as Derik says below, wich is slightly long to type, but IS plenty clear for a character tag I guess. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:22, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::::"Arm" is well-established? I've never SEEN it before! But I've seen TFA used for it plenty of times. But as Derik says, it's an irrelevant topic for the wiki, as nothing will have to abbreviate it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:04, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::: ...how did this subject move to the disambig suffixes? Those will be (Animated). They're less prone to confusion than the categories and article titles. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:41, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
I move this discussion be '''shelved for a few months''' in the hopes that an appropriate nomenclature will arise in the fandom we can use. The series is slated for 2008, the scale of the changes we'll need to make this fall (if we choose to make changes) will still be manageable. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:50, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

==Scale==
Am I the only one who thinks there are going to be scale issues coming? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 22:02, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:How would you even define "scale issues" in relation to TFs. Nothing Transformers has EVER been in scale with anything else.--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 22:27, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
::I believe he's referrign to he fact that Ratchet seems to be ''exactly'' the same size in vehicle mode (which we will be able to see at some point) but it the size of Bulkhead's forearm in robot mode. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:30, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:::It's interesting, but given all the size changing in G1 between modes (and not even the really obvious stuff) it's never going to be enough to put even a dent in the vast and eldritch disregard the Transformers franchise has always held for scale.--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 22:33, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

===Sarcasm===

Am I the only one who thinks the level of sarcasm on this page is a bit much. We get the point.
:I kind of agree. The series isn't even out yet but already this page seems dated--it's like a time capsule to June. Lemme work on it. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 18:11, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
::I think it would be a disservice to not note the FACT that vast swaths of fandom treated this series as Worse Than Hitler at first glance. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:26, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
:::It is noted, in the second paragraph commenting on the inital over reaction. But the rest is just...well, mean really. I din't like the designs when the image was released either, but I'm looking forward to the series now. It just seems to be kinda nasty at the basic heart of it all.

:::Anyone think we need a <nowiki>{{toosnarky}}</nowiki> template? There's a lot of snark sneaking into articles that ought not be as snarky lately. We're weed-whacking it back into place with relative ease at the moment- but I think that for a lot of new users, the discussions about ''de-snarking'' are relatively invisible, while the snark in articles is easy to see. This creates a positive feedback scenario, where they perceive forces only encouraging the addition of snark, and do not notice the need for its moderation.
:::I believe a de-snarking "It's been suggested this page has too much funny and it's interfering with the delivery of information" template would make the need for it not to ''get in the way'' of articles more visible to users, who otherwise only see the jokes. (While also articulating to the anti-humor assholes that we're okay with humor as long as it ''doesn't'' interfere with the delivery of information.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:01, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

:but that doesn't point out something like "excessive sarcasm that just seems to be in for the wrong reasons". Which I think is the main problem. Funny good, gittery, bad. {{unsigned|84.18.160.11}}

::::I'd proposed an "excessive sarcasm" template or somesuch before. I even have the image to use and quote...
::::[[Image:Rattrap-smirk.gif]] "No, I mean take a ''submarine''!"
::::(Yeah, the image is from a different episode and quote, but I don't care.) --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:10, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
::::[[Image:Toosnarky1.jpg]]
::::Man, it's hard to find a good Nightbeat icon for that which doesn't need dialogue. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:16, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Heh. Well, I want to have a BW-based template in there SOMEWHERE... and Rattrap and sarcasm just GO together. Wanna make sure our templates have franchise variety. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:23, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

== Is the Autobots always going to be the Civilian ground vehicle? ==

Is the Autobots(Automobile bots) going to be civilian ground vehicles like cars again, not anything flying nor military vehicles like C-17 Globemaster IIIs? Is the Decepticons going to be the military vehicles and flying vehicles like always? The Decepticons are known for their air power due to the Seekers. I hope you know it.

:The Animated Autobots already have a non-civilian vehicle alt-mode: Ratchet (and the Dinobots aren't even vehicles). Police and Fire& Rescue vehicles are by definition not-civilian. There's only been a few time that the vehicular Autobots were all ground vehicles: G1 in 1984, RID prior to the release of Storm Jet (and all of ''Car Robots'') ''Armada'' prior to the release of Jetfire, and Classics prior to the release of Jetfire. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 18:58, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

You didn't answer the Decepticon question! How the fuck am I going to know that the factions are going to be unbalanced. OH by the way, The funny Stays!

Why you didn't answer these questions?

Why you ignore these questions?

:Well the main character Autobots are not warriors, just "repair-bots", so they're altmodes are simple ground based service vehicles. Probably there will be more military like ones in the future, like Sentinel Prime. -[[User:Hepathos|Hepathos]] 13:27, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Hey! Autobot is actually Automobilebots due to most of them are cars. Look at a list of Generation 1 Autobots to find out. Plus I see no animated Autobot that is at least Military! The Decepticons are always jets and Military vehicles like Devastator/Brawl.
(Spearhead 03:44, 7 October 2007 (UTC))

Remember. The Autobots are usually vehicles that blend in the City like civilian cars or trucks. Optimus might not fly like Cybertron. Just hope Animated Autobots don't have any Autobot that flies like Jetfire or Skydive.([[User:Soldier 79|Soldier 79]] 03:12, 20 October 2007 (UTC))

==Production info==
Has there been any official announcement as to what companies are involved with Animated? There has not been, to my knowledge, any announcement of Studio 4C or the Answer Studio working on Animated, and may be false. Until such time it can be proven, we may wish to omit it, as it may possibly be erroneous.--[[User:Tekcorps|Tekcorps]] 011:15, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

==Bumper Robinson==
Is there any reason in particular why his name alone is linked off site to wikipedia?--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 05:14, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

==New Info==
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kITwzo7Oa38 New trailer ahoy!]

This brings up a good question, though: what should we do for the article regarding Animated All Spark? I mean, we don't know what it does this time around, nor do we know what it looks like, but it's obviously important, or else Megatron wouldn't have forced his way onto the ARK and gone Wayne Brady on Optimus's neck. Should we create the article now, or should we wait until we have some more info? - [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] 23:53, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
: Actually, we DO know how the Animated AllSpark looks. It was in one of the cam videos of the first episode. It looks just like the Matrix. -[[User:84.3.88.25|84.3.88.25]] 23:59, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
:: It looks like the movie Allspark with Matrix handles attached to it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:22, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
:Well, the [[All Spark]] was kinda like the [[Creation Matrix]], so I guess that means they're coming full circle. That, or they're running out of ideas. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 00:29, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
:Fair enough. Can someone link me to a video that features the All Spark so I can snag an image for the wiki? (I assume it's not the Comic Con trailer you're talking about...)- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] 00:43, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
::Too low resolution to bother with. I wish we had never uploaded half of the Animated screencaps currently on the board, because they look awful. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:59, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Well it's the best we've got at the moment. Once the show debuts, we can go on a mass-replacement spree, but for now, we're just going to have to make do with what's there... - [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] 04:03, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
::::A terrible image is often worse than no image. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:19, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

==New cast members==
Hey, anonymous IP guy, where'd you get the new casting info? Can it be verified? - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] 02:15, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
: Yeah, I also want to know. Also, where the clearer screenshots are from. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:40, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
::Just adding a comment to point out we still need this, after a frickin' article's been created for Stromare and everything. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:24, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

==Since G1?==
Excuse me? Is someone ACTUALLY CLAIMING that the early G1 models aren't EVERY BIT as simple and two-dimensional as the Animated models are? the likes of goddman Ironhide are "classic mecha styling"? The hell? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:54, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:I've deleted that section. It was just one fan whining, as near as I could tell.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:56, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::I dunno, I think a "fan reaction" section's okay to have, if only because it's a chance to point out that EVERY SINGLE SERIES EVER has been initially greeted as the harbinger of doom, only to be wildly cheered when previewed at BotCon or wherever, and then THOSE reactions all get gradually replaced by actual informed and widely variable opinions once people get to actually SEE the show.
::....okay, maybe that's actually totally pointless. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 16:03, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:::We already have [[ruined forever]] as an article.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:07, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

==Time to Split?==
With episode lists showing up and the show starting to debut, IMO it's about time to split this into [[Transformers Animated (cartoon)]], [[Transformers Animated (toyline)]], and downsize this page to the main [[franchise]] article. I'd do it myself but I'm not sure what needs to be done with the articles that link here and I don't want to leave a bunch of bad links in my wake.

(The toyline ''does'' share the name of the television show, right?? Are there any comic books or other known media/merchandising in the works?) -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 19:10, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, now that we have an episode list I don't see any reason not to go full-bore on franchise-style articles with full navbars.

:And yes, all the packaging shots we've seen so far say "Transformers Animated."--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:57, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

::Yes, There is the cartoon, the toyline (Witch is called TF Animated, because it's a new trend among several toys and figures, the "Animated" figures. It means, they really cartoony looking, but in the good way), two books, and a comic made out of screencaps from the cartoon.
:::IDW's doing comics, but they're some sort of cine-manga. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:11, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

==Colon or no colon?==
There seems to be some inconsistancies about whether or not the title has a colon in it. The press releases I've seen don't, but the Cartoon Network site does have a colon on it.[[User:Thatother1dude|Thatother1dude]] 01:15, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

==Homage list==
the list of homages seems to a little bit unorganised, particularly regarding the statement at the end:

"In addition, there are characters seen in the cartoon/comic that also have strong homages (The Witwicky family, Omega Supreme, Wheeljack, Perceptor, etc). These may yet become toys. And of course there's the theme song."

This implies that every character in the actual list has a toy, which may have been true at some point, but is no longer the case.
So should this list be cut down to only toy character, in which case it would be kind of out of place on the franchise page, of extended to include every homage, in which case it would just about double in legnth. Personally, I'd vote for removing it altogether, or moving it to a separate page. thelastallosaur [[Special:Contributions/86.131.246.206|86.131.246.206]] 07:46, 27 May 2009 (EDT)

== sad way to end a series ==

i can't believe the series has such a disapointing end to it i mean they leave so many questions left that are unanswered but i love the series.

Talk:Prowl (Animated)

2009-06-04T23:19:43Z

75.17.127.110:

I don't think the promo clip showed him flying or going invisible. I'd chalk them both up to flashy anime-style ninja-jumps.
*He flies in both clips, in the promo, and the recording of the first episode. You can see the thrusters on his back. And he change visibility clearly when he jumps out between the lasers. -[[User:Hepathos|Hepathos]] 19:07, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

His avatar is also not even remotely like IDW "holomatter". It's just a hologram, not even entirely opaque, while IDW uses Star Trek nonsense. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 03:22, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Added information from this auction: [http://cgi.ebay.com/TRANSFORMERS-PROWL-PRE-PRODUCTION-SAMPLE-PROTO-AUTOBOT_W0QQitemZ230185354227QQihZ013QQcategoryZ753QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting]
I've written the following paragraph to add to the wiki: "He lives by the logical teachings of [[Circuit Su]], and believes that reason and intellect are the key to resolving any problem. Because of this he is often vexed by his fellow Autobots and [[humans]], but he is loyal to the Autobot cause and will stop at nothing to defend them." Objections? -[[User:invisiblemoose|invisiblemoose]] 10:50am, 28 October 2007 (New Zealand time)
:We try to add only officially-released information on this wiki. I think this might count as a violation of that. I'm not sure, since, you know, it's Hasbro packaging. It's just very very early. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:08, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
: Well, it IS leaked dinfo... wich I really like, but the others in this Wiki don't. Just wait for the official crap. -[[User:Hepathos|Hepathos]] 22:09, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Walky, you are far too pumped for your own good. We're getting you a different babysitter.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:47, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
:Ugh. That's just awful. Can I revert, please? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:53, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
::Aw, I thought it was hilarious. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 18:08, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

==Um...==
As much as I appreciate the reference in the profile section, frankly I think that it results in a really ugly layout full of terrible blank space that tells us basically nothing ACCURATE about Prowl as a character, since, you know, he kind of goes in the complete opposite direction of "flip out" personality-wise. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 18:44, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

==In Unity, Strength. In Solitude, Peace.==

Prowl's role in "Blast From The Past" shows a less loner-y side to him, as well as a more spiritual aspect... He could tell that the Dinobots were alive. I'm seeing character development already, but I'm not quite sure how to phrase it in an edit. It seems like he cares about people... all people... on a pretty deep level. He just doesn't want to be around them. --[[User:Nemesis Primal|Nemesis Primal]] 03:45, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
:I agree. Outside of the pilot, Prowl hasn't been all that much of a loner at all. [[User:Excise|Excise]] 15:51, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

== ...abilities and powers? ==

Since when do we put "Abilities and Powers" sections in character articles?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 07:26, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
:Since when every single robot in the Animated univese have one. --[[User:Hepathos|Hepathos]] 18:32, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
::That's not how we write character articles here, though. Prowl doesn't have any powers that weren't exhibited by other characters in the past, so such things need to either go in his intro paragraph or his fiction section, not in their own section.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Speaking of [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]]'s abilities,i see information is added to his toy section about the supposed Samurai version. Where has this been confirmed? As far as i know it's just speculation! [[User:Rhinox555|Decepticon Rhinox]] 19:09, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
::::It was confirmed at Botcon. Getting a toy I believe. Also, it was shown in Fistful Of Energon. Whether an episode shown outside of NA counts, I don't know, but howsever. Looks pretty neat.[[User:GWolfv2]]
:::::Ok,i didn't know about the botcon confirmation since it was not mentioned on any tf news sites. A single episode cameo does not always recieve a toy so the cartoon screens are no confirmation. By the way,to sign your posts,use four times ~ in a row. [[User:Rhinox555|Decepticon Rhinox]] 20:22, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

== Samurai Suit Sidecar of the South ==
If I remember correcly, the reports from Botcon said that the sidecar addon is going to be sold separately, with a Deluxe price on it, not with another Prowl. --[[User:Hepathos|Hepathos]] 20:20, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

== WRONG!!! ==

<blockquote>Which begs the question, why is Prowl in with a repair crew?</blockquote>
"begs the question" should not be confused with "raises the question". "begs the question means something entirely damned different! [[User:Blue Spider|Blue Spider]] 03:25, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

== Ninja? ==

Why does the article keep referring to Prowl as a ninja? To quote wikipedia: "In Japanese history, a ninja (忍者 ,ninja) is a warrior specially trained in a variety of unorthodox arts of war. These include assassination, illusion, espionage, and various martial arts." Prowl is trained in two martial arts, both of which are fictional. He is not in any way, form or meaning a ninja. I realise there's some joke ninja-references in the cartoon, but jokes are not always to be taken literal as part of continuity.--[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191|86.87.28.191]] 15:57, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
:...er, he has undergone "cyber-ninja training," which has been mentioned umpteen times in the cartoon. He is a ninja, insofar as Transformers Animated defines them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:01, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
::NINJAS ARE SERIOUS BUSINESS --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:02, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
:Yeah, he's, like... ''explicitly identified as a fucking ninja by the show''. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 16:07, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
::Only thirty million times, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:22, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
:::Gee, thanks everyone for your well thought-out, sane, non-violent, civilized answers ¬_¬ . --[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191|86.87.28.191]] 14:06, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
::::Next you'll try to tell me that the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles aren't really ninjas. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 14:53, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
:::::They're not Ninjas, they're Heroes. ;) [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 14:57, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
Fictional ninjas are pretty much ''never'' what "real" ninjas were. But Prowl is a ninja according to the show's in-universe definition. And this wiki deals with the in-universe context. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:48, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

== prowl is dead?! ==

i can't believe prowl is dead it is sad to see such a great warrior die