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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; is the first of two planned sequels to &#039;&#039;[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]&#039;&#039;. It was released in North America on [[June 24]], 2009.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Revenge is mine!|The Fallen, &#039;&#039;[[Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Japanese title:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers Revenge&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;French title:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers 2: La Revanche&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (&#039;&#039;Transformers 2: The Revenge&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;German title:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers: Die Rache&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (&#039;&#039;Transformers: The Revenge&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Polish title:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers: Zemsta Upadłych&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Italian title:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers 2: La Vendetta Del Caduto&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (&#039;&#039;Transformers 2: The Revenge Of The Fallen&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Main cast==&lt;br /&gt;
{{spoiler|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|July 24, 2009}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{featuredcharacters&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] ([[Tom Kenny]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]]  ([[Reno Wilson]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] ([[Mark Ryan]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]   ([[Jess Harnell]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]]  ([[André Sogliuzzo]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]]  ([[Grey DeLisle]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] ([[Robert Foxworth]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jolt (ROTF)|Jolt]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]  ([[Hugo Weaving]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]  ([[Charlie Adler]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Fallen]] ([[Tony Todd]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Alice]] ([[Isabel Lucas]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]] &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]]  ([[Tom Kenny]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Scalpel]]  ([[John Di Crosta]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]]  ([[Frank Welker]]) &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicon]]s&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] ([[Frank Welker]])&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]] ([[Calvin Wimmer]]) &lt;br /&gt;
**[[Rampage (ROTF)|Rampage]] &lt;br /&gt;
**[[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]]&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Long Haul (ROTF)|Long Haul]] &lt;br /&gt;
**[[Scrapper (ROTF)|Scrapper]] &lt;br /&gt;
**[[Hightower (ROTF)|Hightower]] &lt;br /&gt;
**[[Overload (ROTF)|Overload]] &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Sam Witwicky]] ([[Shia LaBeouf]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mikaela Banes]] ([[Megan Fox]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[William Lennox]] ([[Josh Duhamel]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robert Epps]] ([[Tyrese Gibson]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Leo Spitz]]  ([[Ramon Rodriguez]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Seymour Simmons]] ([[John Turturro]]) &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Theodore Galloway]] ([[John Benjamin Hickey]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Judy Witwicky]] ([[Julie White]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ron Witwicky]] ([[Kevin Dunn]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[General Morshower]] ([[Glenn Morshower]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Professor Colan]] ([[Rainn Wilson]])&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Technical details==&lt;br /&gt;
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==Short synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTFteaserposter.jpg|right|250px|thumb|For dry, red eyes, the difference is clear: Clear Eyes.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The Autobots have found a home in &amp;quot;NEST&amp;quot;, a secret military unit created to seek out and eliminate the remaining Decepticons. All is not well, however. Unbeknownst to them, Soundwave is in orbit, coordinating the Decepticon counterstrike. After Ravage steals the Allspark shard from NEST, a team of Constructicons and The Doctor journey to the bottom of the ocean and use it revive Megatron. The Decepticon leader journeys to the crashed Nemesis, rebukes Starscream, and meets with his master, The Fallen.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Fallen explains that he had constructed a Solar Harvester on Earth, in violation of the Primes&#039; code to never harm an inhabited planet. The Primes turned on him, banished and imprisoned him. However the Harvester still stands, and only one Prime remains. If Megatron destroys Optimus Prime, The Fallen will be freed to activate the Harvester, which will kill off the humans and provide the Decepticons with enough energon to raise an army. Megatron eagerly agrees, and returns to Earth with a vengeance.&lt;br /&gt;
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It transpires that the location of the Harvester is hidden within Sam Witwicky, who absorbed the knowledge from another Allspark fragment. The Decepticons begin an all-out war across the Earth as they hunt down the human, and the Autobots and NEST are blamed for the ensuing carnage. Witwicky goes to ground, and must turn to unlikely allies in the race to find a solution. Ultimately, the last of the Primes defeats The Fallen, destroys the Harvester, and proves the Transformers&#039; greatest power is found in their unexpectedly-ancient alliance with the humans.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Full synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
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==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Beginning.  Middle.  End.  Facts.  Details.  Condense.  Plot.  Tell it.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:— &#039;&#039;&#039;Simmons&#039;&#039;&#039; demands more coherent exposition from Jetfire.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;GIVE ME YOUR FACE.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039; warns The Fallen of his violent fetish.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Not to call you a coward, master, but, sometimes, cowards do survive.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:— &#039;&#039;&#039;Starscream&#039;&#039;&#039; pitches his usual battle plan to an unusually receptive Megatron.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;I need spare parts.  Kill the small one!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:— &#039;&#039;&#039;Scalpel&#039;&#039;&#039; instructs the Constructicons to kill one of their own, which they so happily oblige.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Production staff==&lt;br /&gt;
* Writers [[Roberto Orci]] and [[Alex Kurtzman]] recruited [[Ehren Kruger]] to help them write the screenplay. [[Michael Bay]] and producers [[Don Murphy]], [[Tom DeSanto]], and [[Lorenzo di Bonaventura]] are also returning.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=6372 Transformers 2 Writers Confirmed]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Other editions==&lt;br /&gt;
* According to the 2008 ShoWest edition of Dolby News, the film will be in 3-D.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.comics2film.com/index.php?a=story&amp;amp;b=33214 &#039;Tintin&#039;, &#039;Transformers 2&#039; getting 3D release]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
==Prequel material==&lt;br /&gt;
===Titan Magazines &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; movie comics===&lt;br /&gt;
While the Decepticons were disgusted with the pro-Autobot propaganda of Bay&#039;s first documentary  {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 13|#13&#039;s Star Screams}}, they&#039;re quite optimistic about the second film. [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] has taken a strong interest in it, going to the trouble of personally convincing [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] to be in the film  {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 15|15&#039;s Star Screams}}.  &lt;br /&gt;
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The Decepticons promise this new documentary will show a glorious Decepticon victory  {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 10|#10&#039;s Star Screams}} - whether it&#039;s in the script or not.  {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 18|#18&#039;s Star Screams}} &lt;br /&gt;
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Shockingly, even &#039;&#039;they&#039;&#039; are under a non-disclosure agreement regarding the script; Starscream fearfully refers to a greater power keeping him quiet.  {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 22|#22&#039;s Star Screams}} Talking about it could even undermine the Decepticon war effort! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 23|#23&#039;s Star Screams}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In the same week the film came out, the Decepticons suddenly became unhappy with it and the detente period ended. Bay, Kurtzman, and Orci are once again marked for extermination for their propaganda films. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.1|#1&#039;s Law and Disorder}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Adaptations==&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Main article:&#039;&#039; [[Revenge of the Fallen Movie Adaptation]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Revenge of the Fallen (novel)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sequels==&lt;br /&gt;
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==Soundtrack==&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Main article:&#039;&#039; [[Revenge of the Fallen: The Soundtrack]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Score==&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Linkin Park]] and Hans Zimmer will be working with Steve Jablonsky on the score of the movie. Linkin Park also announced they were writing a song, called &amp;quot;New Divide&amp;quot;. It will be one of the theme songs for the movie, and will be doing several interpretations on that theme. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mikeshinoba.com/blog/special_events-recommended_music-in_the_studio-featured-linkin_park_/transformers_2_new_linkin_park_song_and_score]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Main article:&#039;&#039; [[Revenge of the Fallen: The Score]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==DVD release==&lt;br /&gt;
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==Reception==&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|Transformers: ROTF has mostly gotten pretty hideous reviews, but that&#039;s because people don&#039;t understand that this isn&#039;t a movie, in the conventional sense.|[http://io9.com/5301898/michael-bay-finally-made-an-art-movie Michael Bay Finally Made An Art Movie], Charlie Jane Anders|i09.com [[June 24]] [[2009]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|I bet you&#039;d &#039;&#039;&#039;love&#039;&#039;&#039; to criticize that, critics, but you can&#039;t!  It&#039;s not &#039;&#039;&#039;for&#039;&#039;&#039; you!|&#039;&#039;Penny Arcade&#039;&#039;, March 24, 2004 [http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/24/]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In the week leading up to the United States release, while the film had been released in Japan and the United Kingdom, &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; was ranking 38% fresh on [http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_revenge_of_the_fallen/ Rotten Tomatoes.com].  As American reviews were added into the ranking on June 24, the movie&#039;s freshness slipped slowly to 22%.  RottenTomatoes.com&#039;s consensus was that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; is a noisy, underplotted, and overlong special effects extravaganza that lacks a human touch.&amp;quot;  Roger Ebert, who gave the movie one star, remarked that &amp;quot;if you want to save yourself the ticket price, go into the kitchen, cue up a male choir singing the music of hell, and get a kid to start banging pots and pans together.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090623/REVIEWS/906239997 Roger Ebert&#039;s &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; review] on RogerEbert.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Todd Gilchrist of Cinematical.com said Michael Bay &amp;quot;has exceeded even the possibilities of sequel-driven &#039;moreness,&#039; combining his own muscular, high-gloss sensibility with the conventions of blockbusters past, present, and probably future to create a monolithic action masterpiece that feels destined to be the biggest movie of all time.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cinematical.com/2009/06/22/review-transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen/ Review: Transformers Revenge of the Fallen] on Cinematical.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Michael Phillips from the Chicago Tribune said &amp;quot;the first, comparatively lucid &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; was a headache, but I sort of enjoyed it....&#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; is more like listening to rocks in a clothes dryer for 2½ hours.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/movies/chi-tc-mov-transformers-0623-0624jun23,0,7350387.story &#039;Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen&#039; stars Shia LaBeouf, Megan Fox, Josh Duhamel] on chicagotribune.com &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Roger Ebert went back for more in a second article, declaring not only that &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; was awful, but that it&#039;d [[Ruined FOREVER|ruined action films FOREVER]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009/06/the_fall_of_the_revengers.html &amp;quot;The Fall of the Revengers&amp;quot;] on suntimes.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite the overwhelmingly negative reviews, &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; poised itself quickly as a blockbuster maelstrom.  It grossed $16 million in its opening midnight showings alone, an all-time record for Wednesday openings and a second-best for openings on any day of the week behind &#039;&#039;The Dark Knight&#039;&#039;.  After the full Wednesday was over, &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; had grossed $55 million in domestic ticket sales, surpassing the previous Wednesday release record, held by &#039;&#039;Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix&#039;&#039;, by over $10 million.  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1614673/story.jhtml &#039;Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen&#039; Breaks Wednesday Box-Office Record] on MTV.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
*The official title of the film is &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; (with a lower-case &amp;quot;t&amp;quot; in &amp;quot;the&amp;quot;) even though it is apparently referring to [[The Fallen]] (with a capital &amp;quot;T&amp;quot; in &amp;quot;The&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Transformers references==&lt;br /&gt;
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==Development details==&lt;br /&gt;
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* In an interview with BANG! Showbiz, Shia LeBouf stated that the injuries he suffered in his recent vehicular collision were written into the script and did not adversely affect the filming schedule.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;TheList2008&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.list.co.uk/article/10788-shia-labeoufs-transformers-hand/ The List 1 August 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Also on January 29, 2009, Simon Furman commented on MTV Movie Blog about how the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] wouldn&#039;t fit very well into the movie&#039;s universe, and that he is glad they were dropped from the cast very early in development.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2009/01/29/no-dinobots-in-transformers-2-revenge-of-the-fallen-original-film-consultant-explains-why/ MTV Movie Blog interview with Simon Furman, January 29, 2009.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Michael Bay stated in interview with &#039;&#039;The Collider&#039;&#039; the he obtained permission to film in Egypt by contacting [[Zahi Hawass]], secretary general of Egypt&#039;s council of antiquities, who turned out to be a fan of the 2007 &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; movie.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.collider.com/entertainment/interviews/article.asp/aid/10866/tcid/1 The Collider article and video interview with Michael Bay, February 9, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* In an interview with Sci Fi Wire on March 31st, Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman said they had looked through the comics and cartoons for the &amp;quot;most elemental bad guy&amp;quot; that &amp;quot;jumped off the material&amp;quot; and found that in the Fallen. They also stated that due to production necessities (Hasbro and Bay needing characters for scenes and design to begin as soon as possible) and the 2008-2009 Writers Strike, some characters were in their initial treatment while others were designed specifically for the movie production, and that due to the overall numbers of robots, the audience would not get to know all of the Transformers closely. Indeed, Orci and Kurtzman referred to some characters via descriptors such &amp;quot;Volt&amp;quot; (Jolt) and &amp;quot;Wheelbot&amp;quot; (Demolishor). They also confirmed that Nimoy was open to playing the Fallen if the role was offered, and that they were in the middle of hashing it out with Frank Welker over a role in the movie, but the final decision was down to Bay.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;scifiwireMarch2009&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://scifiwire.com/2009/03/orci-kurtzman-reveal-tran.php SciFi Wire March 2009 interview with Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* On the MTV Movies blog, Michael Bay reported that they were still doing for the voices for the film, and that he was (jokingly) nervous of asking his relative Leonard Nimoy if he wanted to voice The Fallen in the movie for fear of offending him with the relatively low pay allotted to voice actors.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2009/04/21/michael-bay-afraid-to-offend-leonard-nimoy-with-transformers-family-reunion-offer/ &#039;&#039;Michael Bay Afraid To Offend Leonard Nimoy With ‘Transformers’ Family Reunion Offer&#039;&#039;, MTV.com Movies blog, April 21, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* In a June 22nd article in Forbes (released online on June 4th), Michael Bay talked about his philosphy in movie-making, his demand of part-ownership of movies he makes, and the revelation that he receives an 8% cut of all toy sales from the &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; movies.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2009/0622/celebrity-09-transformers-michael-bay-making-movies-enemies-money.html Michael Bay article on Forbes.com June 4, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* On June 8th, 2009, the movie had its world premiere in Japan. Michael Bay, Shia LaBeouf, Megan Fox, Josh Duhamel, Tyrese Gibson, Isabel Lucas and Ramon Rodriguez attended.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/47a23fdbb6ddc8ece6a0a6c87ccc2bbe-499.html Japanese Premiere photos at Michael Bay.com, June 8, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Other countries such as South Korea&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/f7a7af7e754cfa877a635b95d8908eea-506.html Korean Premiere photos at Michael Bay.com, June 9, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, the United Kingdom and Germany followed over the course of the next few days.&lt;br /&gt;
===Disinformation===&lt;br /&gt;
{{cleanup|June 25, 2009}}&lt;br /&gt;
* Michael Bay has claimed that the studio is putting out deliberate misinformation, to obscure real leaks.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://io9.com/382919/michael-bay-plays-internet-punkd Michael Bay Plays Internet Punk&#039;d]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (Like our jobs weren&#039;t hard enough.)&lt;br /&gt;
* During San Diego Comic-Con 2008, in an interview on July 25th, [[Simon Furman]] claimed that the film would feature a character called [[The Fallen]], which was a character they created for [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]]&#039;s &#039;&#039;[[The War Within: The Dark Ages]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&amp;amp;id=17412 Simon Furman confirms The Fallen is a character in an interview with Comic Book Resources]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Three days later, [[IDW Publishing]] writer [[Chris Mowry]] corroborated the claim in an interview with MTV Splash Page, calling &amp;quot;The Fallen&amp;quot; the main villain of &#039;&#039;Revenge&#039;&#039; ([[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] was also confirmed in the same interview, but the reference to her was mysteriously removed shortly after publication). &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/07/28/exclusive-transformers-2-prequel-comic-gives-inside-scoop-on-2009-movie/ MTV Splash Page interviews Chris Mowry]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Less than a week after this, however, Michael Bay reiterated that everything leaked thus far is part of their misinformation campaign and that only a handful of people involved with the production of &#039;&#039;Revenge&#039;&#039; have seen the script, contradicting IDW&#039;s interviews where their representatives confirm that they have the script. Additionally, Bay claimed the only truth about the film was Sam going to college.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44729&amp;amp;postcount=2 A post made by Michael Bay on his forum]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Curiously, on August 5th 2008, after a fan posted on Michael Bay&#039;s forum pointing out the contradiction, all references to the Fallen were removed from the aforementioned interviews, as well as any references to IDW Publishing having the script.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Empire&#039;&#039; magazine&#039;s February 2009 issue features information on the role of the Egyptian Pyramids in the Movieverse&#039;s backstory. Michael Bay also confirmed The Fallen and denied Megatron would be resurrected (this later turned out to be untrue). Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics resembling helicopters will be revealed to be depictions of Transformers who visited Earth before the pyramids were built.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;EmpireFeb2009&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Empire&#039;&#039; article entitled &amp;quot;20 to watch in 2009&amp;quot;, written by Nick de Semelyn, dated February 2009, pages 68 and 69, issue 236&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* After a short and poorly excuted &amp;quot;misinformation campaign&amp;quot; on the part of Michael Bay, Paramount and their licensees where they claimed that Megatron was not in the movie despite all &#039;&#039;officially released&#039;&#039; evidence to the contrary (including Megatron&#039;s brief appearance in the February 1 Superbowl tv spot and the February teaser trailer), Roberto Orci confirmed that Megatron does indeed return.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Megatron returns&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/180451-welcome-mr-roberto-orci-you-may-ask-him-questions-211.html#post3333713 Roberto Orci confirms Megatron&#039;s return on TFW2005.com - February 22, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* On March 6, due to the reports of Weaving&#039;s return, Michael Bay finally admitted Megatron was back, but claimed that Megatron would only appear briefly in a flashback to the past, despite the fact Megatron can be seen pinning Sam Witwicky to the ground in &#039;&#039;Revenge&#039;s&#039;&#039; tv spot and teaser trailer. One can assume that the director was trying to salvage some form of audience surprise in seeing Megatron return in the movie. In other news of a presumably legitimate kind, Bay said that the movie would go into the distant past and explain the history of the [[Prime]]s.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=66825&amp;amp;postcount=4 Michael Bay on his forum - March 6, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; sequel and the 2007-2008 Writers Strike===&lt;br /&gt;
In late 2007, during preproduction for then-untitled &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; sequel, the [[wikipedia:2007–2008 Writers Guild of America strike|Writers Guild of America went on strike]]. At the time, Roberto Orci stated that the strike could likely delay &#039;&#039;Transformers 2&#039;s&#039;&#039; release. However, Michael Bay refuted this, claiming the movie was still on schedule.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6200#post6200 Robert Orci discusses the strike &amp;amp; TF2]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The reason behind Bay&#039;s confidence was discovered by Orci shortly after the strike ended. The director had apparently taken the outline the writers had handed in the night before the strike, and begun movie prep based on it.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.donmurphy.net/board/showthread.php?t=24357&amp;amp;page=4 Don Murphy message board - Orci on the aftermath of the strike]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Errors==&lt;br /&gt;
*When Jetfire is activated at the [[Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum]] in Washington, he leaves the exhibition center and exits into the [[Wikipedia:309th Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group|309th Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group (aka The Boneyard)]], in Tuscon, Arizona. Jetfire is so old he teleports himself and everyone around him without them noticing.&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.transformersmovie.com Dreamworks/Paramount&#039;s &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; Movie website]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/ Hasbro&#039;s &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; homepage]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.collider.com/entertainment/interviews/article.asp/aid/10866/tcid/1 Interview with Michael Bay 02/09/2009] — Collider.com&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; is the first of two planned sequels to &#039;&#039;[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]&#039;&#039;. It was released in North America on [[June 24]], 2009.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Revenge is mine!|The Fallen, &#039;&#039;[[Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Japanese title:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers Revenge&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;French title:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers 2: La Revanche&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (&#039;&#039;Transformers 2: The Revenge&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;German title:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers: Die Rache&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (&#039;&#039;Transformers: The Revenge&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Polish title:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers: Zemsta Upadłych&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Italian title:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers 2: La Vendetta Del Caduto&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (&#039;&#039;Transformers 2: The Revenge Of The Fallen&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Main cast==&lt;br /&gt;
{{spoiler|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|July 24, 2009}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] ([[Tom Kenny]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]]  ([[Reno Wilson]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] ([[Mark Ryan]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]   ([[Jess Harnell]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]]  ([[André Sogliuzzo]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]]  ([[Grey DeLisle]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] ([[Robert Foxworth]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jolt (ROTF)|Jolt]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]  ([[Hugo Weaving]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]  ([[Charlie Adler]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Fallen]] ([[Tony Todd]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Alice]] ([[Isabel Lucas]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]] &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]]  ([[Tom Kenny]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Scalpel]]  ([[John Di Crosta]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]]  ([[Frank Welker]]) &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicon]]s&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] ([[Frank Welker]])&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]] ([[Calvin Wimmer]]) &lt;br /&gt;
**[[Rampage (ROTF)|Rampage]] &lt;br /&gt;
**[[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]]&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Long Haul (ROTF)|Long Haul]] &lt;br /&gt;
**[[Scrapper (ROTF)|Scrapper]] &lt;br /&gt;
**[[Hightower (ROTF)|Hightower]] &lt;br /&gt;
**[[Overload (ROTF)|Overload]] &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Sam Witwicky]] ([[Shia LaBeouf]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mikaela Banes]] ([[Megan Fox]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[William Lennox]] ([[Josh Duhamel]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robert Epps]] ([[Tyrese Gibson]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Leo Spitz]]  ([[Ramon Rodriguez]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Seymour Simmons]] ([[John Turturro]]) &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Theodore Galloway]] ([[John Benjamin Hickey]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Judy Witwicky]] ([[Julie White]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ron Witwicky]] ([[Kevin Dunn]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[General Morshower]] ([[Glenn Morshower]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Professor Colan]] ([[Rainn Wilson]])&lt;br /&gt;
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==Technical details==&lt;br /&gt;
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==Short synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTFteaserposter.jpg|right|250px|thumb|For dry, red eyes, the difference is clear: Clear Eyes.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The Autobots have found a home in &amp;quot;NEST&amp;quot;, a secret military unit created to seek out and eliminate the remaining Decepticons. All is not well, however. Unbeknownst to them, Soundwave is in orbit, coordinating the Decepticon counterstrike. After Ravage steals the Allspark shard from NEST, a team of Constructicons and The Doctor journey to the bottom of the ocean and use it revive Megatron. The Decepticon leader journeys to the crashed Nemesis, rebukes Starscream, and meets with his master, The Fallen.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Fallen explains that he had constructed a Solar Harvester on Earth, in violation of the Primes&#039; code to never harm an inhabited planet. The Primes turned on him, banished and imprisoned him. However the Harvester still stands, and only one Prime remains. If Megatron destroys Optimus Prime, The Fallen will be freed to activate the Harvester, which will kill off the humans and provide the Decepticons with enough energon to raise an army. Megatron eagerly agrees, and returns to Earth with a vengeance.&lt;br /&gt;
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It transpires that the location of the Harvester is hidden within Sam Witwicky, who absorbed the knowledge from another Allspark fragment. The Decepticons begin an all-out war across the Earth as they hunt down the human, and the Autobots and NEST are blamed for the ensuing carnage. Witwicky goes to ground, and must turn to unlikely allies in the race to find a solution. Ultimately, the last of the Primes defeats The Fallen, destroys the Harvester, and proves the Transformers&#039; greatest power is found in their unexpectedly-ancient alliance with the humans.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Full synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
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==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Beginning.  Middle.  End.  Facts.  Details.  Condense.  Plot.  Tell it.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:— &#039;&#039;&#039;Simmons&#039;&#039;&#039; demands more coherent exposition from Jetfire.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;GIVE ME YOUR FACE.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039; warns The Fallen of his violent fetish.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Not to call you a coward, master, but, sometimes, cowards do survive.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:— &#039;&#039;&#039;Starscream&#039;&#039;&#039; pitches his usual battle plan to an unusually receptive Megatron.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;I need spare parts.  Kill the small one!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:— &#039;&#039;&#039;Scalpel&#039;&#039;&#039; instructs the Constructicons to kill one of their own, which they so happily oblige.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Production staff==&lt;br /&gt;
* Writers [[Roberto Orci]] and [[Alex Kurtzman]] recruited [[Ehren Kruger]] to help them write the screenplay. [[Michael Bay]] and producers [[Don Murphy]], [[Tom DeSanto]], and [[Lorenzo di Bonaventura]] are also returning.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=6372 Transformers 2 Writers Confirmed]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* According to the 2008 ShoWest edition of Dolby News, the film will be in 3-D.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.comics2film.com/index.php?a=story&amp;amp;b=33214 &#039;Tintin&#039;, &#039;Transformers 2&#039; getting 3D release]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
==Prequel material==&lt;br /&gt;
===Titan Magazines &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; movie comics===&lt;br /&gt;
While the Decepticons were disgusted with the pro-Autobot propaganda of Bay&#039;s first documentary  {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 13|#13&#039;s Star Screams}}, they&#039;re quite optimistic about the second film. [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] has taken a strong interest in it, going to the trouble of personally convincing [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] to be in the film  {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 15|15&#039;s Star Screams}}.  &lt;br /&gt;
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The Decepticons promise this new documentary will show a glorious Decepticon victory  {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 10|#10&#039;s Star Screams}} - whether it&#039;s in the script or not.  {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 18|#18&#039;s Star Screams}} &lt;br /&gt;
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Shockingly, even &#039;&#039;they&#039;&#039; are under a non-disclosure agreement regarding the script; Starscream fearfully refers to a greater power keeping him quiet.  {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 22|#22&#039;s Star Screams}} Talking about it could even undermine the Decepticon war effort! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 23|#23&#039;s Star Screams}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In the same week the film came out, the Decepticons suddenly became unhappy with it and the detente period ended. Bay, Kurtzman, and Orci are once again marked for extermination for their propaganda films. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.1|#1&#039;s Law and Disorder}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Adaptations==&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Main article:&#039;&#039; [[Revenge of the Fallen Movie Adaptation]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sequels==&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article:&#039;&#039; [[Revenge of the Fallen: The Soundtrack]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Score==&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Linkin Park]] and Hans Zimmer will be working with Steve Jablonsky on the score of the movie. Linkin Park also announced they were writing a song, called &amp;quot;New Divide&amp;quot;. It will be one of the theme songs for the movie, and will be doing several interpretations on that theme. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mikeshinoba.com/blog/special_events-recommended_music-in_the_studio-featured-linkin_park_/transformers_2_new_linkin_park_song_and_score]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Main article:&#039;&#039; [[Revenge of the Fallen: The Score]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Reception==&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|Transformers: ROTF has mostly gotten pretty hideous reviews, but that&#039;s because people don&#039;t understand that this isn&#039;t a movie, in the conventional sense.|[http://io9.com/5301898/michael-bay-finally-made-an-art-movie Michael Bay Finally Made An Art Movie], Charlie Jane Anders|i09.com [[June 24]] [[2009]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|I bet you&#039;d &#039;&#039;&#039;love&#039;&#039;&#039; to criticize that, critics, but you can&#039;t!  It&#039;s not &#039;&#039;&#039;for&#039;&#039;&#039; you!|&#039;&#039;Penny Arcade&#039;&#039;, March 24, 2004 [http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/24/]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In the week leading up to the United States release, while the film had been released in Japan and the United Kingdom, &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; was ranking 38% fresh on [http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_revenge_of_the_fallen/ Rotten Tomatoes.com].  As American reviews were added into the ranking on June 24, the movie&#039;s freshness slipped slowly to 22%.  RottenTomatoes.com&#039;s consensus was that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; is a noisy, underplotted, and overlong special effects extravaganza that lacks a human touch.&amp;quot;  Roger Ebert, who gave the movie one star, remarked that &amp;quot;if you want to save yourself the ticket price, go into the kitchen, cue up a male choir singing the music of hell, and get a kid to start banging pots and pans together.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090623/REVIEWS/906239997 Roger Ebert&#039;s &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; review] on RogerEbert.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Todd Gilchrist of Cinematical.com said Michael Bay &amp;quot;has exceeded even the possibilities of sequel-driven &#039;moreness,&#039; combining his own muscular, high-gloss sensibility with the conventions of blockbusters past, present, and probably future to create a monolithic action masterpiece that feels destined to be the biggest movie of all time.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cinematical.com/2009/06/22/review-transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen/ Review: Transformers Revenge of the Fallen] on Cinematical.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Michael Phillips from the Chicago Tribune said &amp;quot;the first, comparatively lucid &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; was a headache, but I sort of enjoyed it....&#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; is more like listening to rocks in a clothes dryer for 2½ hours.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/movies/chi-tc-mov-transformers-0623-0624jun23,0,7350387.story &#039;Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen&#039; stars Shia LaBeouf, Megan Fox, Josh Duhamel] on chicagotribune.com &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Roger Ebert went back for more in a second article, declaring not only that &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; was awful, but that it&#039;d [[Ruined FOREVER|ruined action films FOREVER]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009/06/the_fall_of_the_revengers.html &amp;quot;The Fall of the Revengers&amp;quot;] on suntimes.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite the overwhelmingly negative reviews, &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; poised itself quickly as a blockbuster maelstrom.  It grossed $16 million in its opening midnight showings alone, an all-time record for Wednesday openings and a second-best for openings on any day of the week behind &#039;&#039;The Dark Knight&#039;&#039;.  After the full Wednesday was over, &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; had grossed $55 million in domestic ticket sales, surpassing the previous Wednesday release record, held by &#039;&#039;Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix&#039;&#039;, by over $10 million.  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1614673/story.jhtml &#039;Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen&#039; Breaks Wednesday Box-Office Record] on MTV.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
*The official title of the film is &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; (with a lower-case &amp;quot;t&amp;quot; in &amp;quot;the&amp;quot;) even though it is apparently referring to [[The Fallen]] (with a capital &amp;quot;T&amp;quot; in &amp;quot;The&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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* In an interview with BANG! Showbiz, Shia LeBouf stated that the injuries he suffered in his recent vehicular collision were written into the script and did not adversely affect the filming schedule.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;TheList2008&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.list.co.uk/article/10788-shia-labeoufs-transformers-hand/ The List 1 August 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Also on January 29, 2009, Simon Furman commented on MTV Movie Blog about how the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] wouldn&#039;t fit very well into the movie&#039;s universe, and that he is glad they were dropped from the cast very early in development.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2009/01/29/no-dinobots-in-transformers-2-revenge-of-the-fallen-original-film-consultant-explains-why/ MTV Movie Blog interview with Simon Furman, January 29, 2009.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Michael Bay stated in interview with &#039;&#039;The Collider&#039;&#039; the he obtained permission to film in Egypt by contacting [[Zahi Hawass]], secretary general of Egypt&#039;s council of antiquities, who turned out to be a fan of the 2007 &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; movie.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.collider.com/entertainment/interviews/article.asp/aid/10866/tcid/1 The Collider article and video interview with Michael Bay, February 9, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* In an interview with Sci Fi Wire on March 31st, Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman said they had looked through the comics and cartoons for the &amp;quot;most elemental bad guy&amp;quot; that &amp;quot;jumped off the material&amp;quot; and found that in the Fallen. They also stated that due to production necessities (Hasbro and Bay needing characters for scenes and design to begin as soon as possible) and the 2008-2009 Writers Strike, some characters were in their initial treatment while others were designed specifically for the movie production, and that due to the overall numbers of robots, the audience would not get to know all of the Transformers closely. Indeed, Orci and Kurtzman referred to some characters via descriptors such &amp;quot;Volt&amp;quot; (Jolt) and &amp;quot;Wheelbot&amp;quot; (Demolishor). They also confirmed that Nimoy was open to playing the Fallen if the role was offered, and that they were in the middle of hashing it out with Frank Welker over a role in the movie, but the final decision was down to Bay.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;scifiwireMarch2009&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://scifiwire.com/2009/03/orci-kurtzman-reveal-tran.php SciFi Wire March 2009 interview with Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* On the MTV Movies blog, Michael Bay reported that they were still doing for the voices for the film, and that he was (jokingly) nervous of asking his relative Leonard Nimoy if he wanted to voice The Fallen in the movie for fear of offending him with the relatively low pay allotted to voice actors.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2009/04/21/michael-bay-afraid-to-offend-leonard-nimoy-with-transformers-family-reunion-offer/ &#039;&#039;Michael Bay Afraid To Offend Leonard Nimoy With ‘Transformers’ Family Reunion Offer&#039;&#039;, MTV.com Movies blog, April 21, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* In a June 22nd article in Forbes (released online on June 4th), Michael Bay talked about his philosphy in movie-making, his demand of part-ownership of movies he makes, and the revelation that he receives an 8% cut of all toy sales from the &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; movies.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2009/0622/celebrity-09-transformers-michael-bay-making-movies-enemies-money.html Michael Bay article on Forbes.com June 4, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* On June 8th, 2009, the movie had its world premiere in Japan. Michael Bay, Shia LaBeouf, Megan Fox, Josh Duhamel, Tyrese Gibson, Isabel Lucas and Ramon Rodriguez attended.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/47a23fdbb6ddc8ece6a0a6c87ccc2bbe-499.html Japanese Premiere photos at Michael Bay.com, June 8, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Other countries such as South Korea&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/f7a7af7e754cfa877a635b95d8908eea-506.html Korean Premiere photos at Michael Bay.com, June 9, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, the United Kingdom and Germany followed over the course of the next few days.&lt;br /&gt;
===Disinformation===&lt;br /&gt;
{{cleanup|June 25, 2009}}&lt;br /&gt;
* Michael Bay has claimed that the studio is putting out deliberate misinformation, to obscure real leaks.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://io9.com/382919/michael-bay-plays-internet-punkd Michael Bay Plays Internet Punk&#039;d]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (Like our jobs weren&#039;t hard enough.)&lt;br /&gt;
* During San Diego Comic-Con 2008, in an interview on July 25th, [[Simon Furman]] claimed that the film would feature a character called [[The Fallen]], which was a character they created for [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]]&#039;s &#039;&#039;[[The War Within: The Dark Ages]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&amp;amp;id=17412 Simon Furman confirms The Fallen is a character in an interview with Comic Book Resources]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Three days later, [[IDW Publishing]] writer [[Chris Mowry]] corroborated the claim in an interview with MTV Splash Page, calling &amp;quot;The Fallen&amp;quot; the main villain of &#039;&#039;Revenge&#039;&#039; ([[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] was also confirmed in the same interview, but the reference to her was mysteriously removed shortly after publication). &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/07/28/exclusive-transformers-2-prequel-comic-gives-inside-scoop-on-2009-movie/ MTV Splash Page interviews Chris Mowry]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Less than a week after this, however, Michael Bay reiterated that everything leaked thus far is part of their misinformation campaign and that only a handful of people involved with the production of &#039;&#039;Revenge&#039;&#039; have seen the script, contradicting IDW&#039;s interviews where their representatives confirm that they have the script. Additionally, Bay claimed the only truth about the film was Sam going to college.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44729&amp;amp;postcount=2 A post made by Michael Bay on his forum]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Curiously, on August 5th 2008, after a fan posted on Michael Bay&#039;s forum pointing out the contradiction, all references to the Fallen were removed from the aforementioned interviews, as well as any references to IDW Publishing having the script.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Empire&#039;&#039; magazine&#039;s February 2009 issue features information on the role of the Egyptian Pyramids in the Movieverse&#039;s backstory. Michael Bay also confirmed The Fallen and denied Megatron would be resurrected (this later turned out to be untrue). Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics resembling helicopters will be revealed to be depictions of Transformers who visited Earth before the pyramids were built.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;EmpireFeb2009&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Empire&#039;&#039; article entitled &amp;quot;20 to watch in 2009&amp;quot;, written by Nick de Semelyn, dated February 2009, pages 68 and 69, issue 236&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* After a short and poorly excuted &amp;quot;misinformation campaign&amp;quot; on the part of Michael Bay, Paramount and their licensees where they claimed that Megatron was not in the movie despite all &#039;&#039;officially released&#039;&#039; evidence to the contrary (including Megatron&#039;s brief appearance in the February 1 Superbowl tv spot and the February teaser trailer), Roberto Orci confirmed that Megatron does indeed return.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Megatron returns&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/180451-welcome-mr-roberto-orci-you-may-ask-him-questions-211.html#post3333713 Roberto Orci confirms Megatron&#039;s return on TFW2005.com - February 22, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* On March 6, due to the reports of Weaving&#039;s return, Michael Bay finally admitted Megatron was back, but claimed that Megatron would only appear briefly in a flashback to the past, despite the fact Megatron can be seen pinning Sam Witwicky to the ground in &#039;&#039;Revenge&#039;s&#039;&#039; tv spot and teaser trailer. One can assume that the director was trying to salvage some form of audience surprise in seeing Megatron return in the movie. In other news of a presumably legitimate kind, Bay said that the movie would go into the distant past and explain the history of the [[Prime]]s.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=66825&amp;amp;postcount=4 Michael Bay on his forum - March 6, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; sequel and the 2007-2008 Writers Strike===&lt;br /&gt;
In late 2007, during preproduction for then-untitled &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; sequel, the [[wikipedia:2007–2008 Writers Guild of America strike|Writers Guild of America went on strike]]. At the time, Roberto Orci stated that the strike could likely delay &#039;&#039;Transformers 2&#039;s&#039;&#039; release. However, Michael Bay refuted this, claiming the movie was still on schedule.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6200#post6200 Robert Orci discusses the strike &amp;amp; TF2]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The reason behind Bay&#039;s confidence was discovered by Orci shortly after the strike ended. The director had apparently taken the outline the writers had handed in the night before the strike, and begun movie prep based on it.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.donmurphy.net/board/showthread.php?t=24357&amp;amp;page=4 Don Murphy message board - Orci on the aftermath of the strike]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Errors==&lt;br /&gt;
*When Jetfire is activated at the [[Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum]] in Washington, he leaves the exhibition center and exits into the [[Wikipedia:309th Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group|309th Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group (aka The Boneyard)]], in Tuscon, Arizona. Jetfire is so old he teleports himself and everyone around him without them noticing.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Not actually an error===&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.transformersmovie.com Dreamworks/Paramount&#039;s &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; Movie website]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/ Hasbro&#039;s &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; homepage]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.collider.com/entertainment/interviews/article.asp/aid/10866/tcid/1 Interview with Michael Bay 02/09/2009] — Collider.com&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Reflist|2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Films]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>File talk:ROTF Voyager Megatron toy.jpg</title>
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&lt;div&gt;Baja Blast Megatron?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[Special:Contributions/75.181.157.99|75.181.157.99]] 23:05, 18 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Ravage_(ROTF)&amp;diff=298052</id>
		<title>Ravage (ROTF)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;{{disambig3|Ravage}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Ravage is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ROTF_Ravage_promo.jpg|thumb|400px|What&#039;s new pussycat? Woah, Woah]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Ravage&#039;&#039;&#039; is ... a kitty?  Maybe!  Well, he seems to be okay with water.  That&#039;s not very catlike!  Well, maybe this is Seaspray.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; movie===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ravagerotfteaser.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Mew.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoon}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Revenge of the Fallen===&lt;br /&gt;
====Deluxe Class Toys====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Soundwave&#039;&#039;&#039; (2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; RD-04&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; 1 Ravage missile&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] comes with an intricately sculpted missile that appears to represent Ravage in transition form. He can&#039;t transform, though...bummer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF_Deluxe_Ravage_toy.jpg|thumb|300px|Admit it: between the spiky spine and that dead, red eye, you just want to cuddle the guy.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Ravage&#039;&#039;&#039; (2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Ravage transforms into a [[transition form|&amp;quot;reentry mode&amp;quot;]].&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoontoy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Merchandise==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Robot Heroes&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:robotheroesrotfravage.jpg|right|thumb|200px|&#039;&#039;&#039;This&#039;&#039;&#039; is why &#039;&#039;Robot Heroes&#039;&#039; exists!]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Who cares vs &#039;&#039;&#039;Ravage&#039;&#039;&#039; (2009)&lt;br /&gt;
: Dawwwwww.&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoontoy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
* Ravage and [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] were part of an early draft for [[Transformers (2007)|&#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039;]]. However, when Soundwave was changed to [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] and the initial jungle setting was replaced with a desert, Ravage was changed to [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Decepticons]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen characters]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Long Haul (ROTF)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;{{factions|decepticon}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{disambig3|Long Haul}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Long Haul is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
{{mainpic}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Long Haul&#039;&#039;&#039; is a [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicon]] who forms [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]]&#039;s right leg. He probably complains a lot.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; (movie)===&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoon}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Revenge of the Fallen===&lt;br /&gt;
====Legends Class toys====&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Constructicon Devastator&#039;&#039;&#039; (2009)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Comingsoontoy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Supreme Class toys====&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Constructicon Devastator&#039;&#039;&#039; (2009)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Comingsoontoy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
====Fast Action Battlers====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Long Haul ROTF FAB.jpg|thumb|right|350px]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Devastation Blast Long Haul&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoontoy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Merchandise==&lt;br /&gt;
===Robot Heroes===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Bumblebee and Long Haul&#039;&#039;&#039; (2009)&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
Artist Josh Nizzi, who created a fanart work of Long Haul, was hired as an artist for the movie.  His Long Haul piece was used for the film.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Constructicons]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Decepticons]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Robot Heroes]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Is the fact that Long Haul was originally fanart that became real when the artist was hired for the movie worth noting?--[[Special:Contributions/75.181.157.99|75.181.157.99]] 18:50, 19 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Jetfire (Movie)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;Comparing the comic character to the legends toy, it&#039;s clearly him so how about adding some info/scans from the comics?&lt;br /&gt;
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== Picture? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have a picture of movie Jetfire from a recent Bay-released clip.  Should I upload it or hold off on it?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[Special:Contributions/75.181.157.99|75.181.157.99]] 10:49, 18 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Blackout_(Movie)&amp;diff=274902</id>
		<title>Talk:Blackout (Movie)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;==Hard points==&lt;br /&gt;
Should it be mentioned in the article that the two hard points on the Voyager-class figure&#039;s shoulders are perfectly suited to plugging a Mini-con onto?  I noticed this when I first purchased the figure, then tried it out when I got a chance; the pegs are almost identical to the ones on Armada and Energon figures.&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 06:29, 4 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Note it in the Voyager class toy&#039;s writeup.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:09, 4 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Italicized trivia at the end of the toy writeup. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 06:34, 4 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: I don&#039;t think its particularly significant, given that several non UT-era toys have that sort of 5mm peg with a hole in the middle. Even G1 Ultra Magnus has one. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:34, 5 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: I think mentioning as part of the toy&#039;s description that it has two Powerlinx pegs on its shoulders/helicopterpartthingy isn&#039;t intrusive, and is actually a good thing to know! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:36, 5 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Something that EXPANDS the toy&#039;s playability? HELL YES it should be mentioned! --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 07:25, 5 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: Well the toy IS pretty unplayable in its present form, so it needs all the help it can get. I&#039;ll have to reword the blurb, because it suggests somebody at Haskara might have intended them to be Mini-Con ports, when they are not. Merely a coincidence. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:51, 5 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::aaaaand i&#039;ll just remove what I just said - forgot about this giant weapon, there. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:06, 5 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Blackout on mars ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the movie, [[Tom Banachek]] clearly state that the robot destroying the Bealgle 2 Rover has been identified as the one that attacked the base in Irak. Shouldn&#039;t that be mentioned?--[[User:GUIGUI|GUIGUI]] 17:20, 10 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Definitely. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 17:33, 10 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I... don&#039;t think it&#039;s clearly stated.  They say they have similar exoskeletal thingermajig.  They could simply be saying he&#039;s the same species.  We should be careful.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:02, 10 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah it was not clearly stated as such. What he told Keller was that they believe it the two things in the photos (Mars McRandomdude and Blackout) have a similar exoskeletal structure, not &#039;the thing that attacked the base destroyed this probe a couple of years ago!&#039; --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:27, 10 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well seeing that the transformers can also been ditingued by they personnal exoskeleton, we could mention it with a &amp;quot;Presumed&amp;quot;, or a &amp;quot;it could be&amp;quot;, even in the trivia, no?--[[User:GUIGUI|GUIGUI]] 18:36, 10 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::There&#039;s no evidence, so we can&#039;t suggest it in trivia, in my opinion. They do that far too often on the regular Wikipedia. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:45, 10 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::It seemed pretty obvious to me that it was supposed to be the same guy. I assumed the &amp;quot;similar&amp;quot; part was just because now the guy turns into a helicopter and looks slightly different now-- not that it was a different guy. I mean, their silhouettes were basically the same. Regardless, if it&#039;s really a contended point, do we have any secondary material that addresses this at all? --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 18:50, 10 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I assumed the &#039;similar&#039; bit meant &#039;we think it&#039;s the same species.&#039; -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:18, 10 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It seemed to me that Banachek was saying it&#039;s the same robot.  However, it is at best implied, and the idea of that being Blackout contradicts, IMO, Bumblebee&#039;s designation as N.B.E.-2.  I was under the impression that Bumblebee was supposed to be the Mars robot, and thus was surprised by the (to me) implied &amp;quot;it was Blackout&amp;quot;. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 21:40, 10 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Well, no, we know the rover-smasher was definitely either Starscream, Blackout or Barricade - we see it &#039;&#039;happen&#039;&#039; on the second-to-last page of the IDW prequel. We just don&#039;t see which one of them delivers the blow. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:58, 10 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Tom clearly states that they are of “the same exoskeletal type”, so other than it being Blackout who the image is compared to, there is no implication that they are the same one what so ever. The purpose of that scene was to show they are the same species, nothing more. As far as evidence in the movie goes, the Mars Transformer is no more Blackout than it is any other character. &lt;br /&gt;
Obviously the images do look similar, but then most of the transformers are similar anyway, (just try looking at silhouettes of the Atobot protoforms for instance), realistically blackout would be too big for the event; he would overwhelm the view and would have cast the rover in a much greater shadow. If anything it looks more logical to be Barricade. -Guest 15:21, 6 March 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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==New image==&lt;br /&gt;
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Opinions on using this image as the new main pic? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:51, 31 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Personally, what I would like to see this Wiki do is put a section at the bottom of each page of the movie transformers that contains all other images of that character, including extra CGI renders. --Guest 20.55 23February 2008&lt;br /&gt;
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==Automorph==&lt;br /&gt;
I put info on how to best automorph the voyager class figure.  Hope it helps. --[[User:Paradox244|Paradox244]] 00:46, 21 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Cyber Slammer==&lt;br /&gt;
I think the Cyber Slammers blackout thing is just an error on Hasbro&#039;s website&#039;s part, the page was up for a day with no pics or text, and I don&#039;t recall the toy being announced anywhere else.   I&#039;m removing it from the page &#039;til there&#039;s prooof it&#039;s gog to be made.  --[[User:Nemesis Primal|Nemesis Primal]] 03:57, 25 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Alt-mode Origin Contradiction==&lt;br /&gt;
It just occurred to me that there may not necessarily be a contradiction between Blackout getting his alt-form 3 years before the movie in the &amp;quot;Prime Directives,&amp;quot; prequel comic, and the mention of how his serial number namesake got shot down in Afghanistan 3 months prior to the movie. He mentions in the comic that there &amp;quot;were no witnesses,&amp;quot; in contrast to Blackout and Starscream.  If this is true, then it&#039;s entirely possible that he scanned the vehicle without any humans noticing, and then both he and the helicopter he scanned went on their separate paths; Blackout doing the stuff he did in Prime Directives and the helicopter getting shot down in Afghanistan three months before the movie. --[[User:UndeadScottsman|UndeadScottsman]] 08:29, 18 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==EMP??==&lt;br /&gt;
Why is Blackout&#039;s initial attack called an EMP wave?  If it was, every electrical circuit on the base should be rendered dead.  This was clearly not the case since the computers were still on.  It looks like just some kind of plain old shockwave to me. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 06:39, 20 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sabot at the base?==&lt;br /&gt;
Can we confirm it was a sabot round?  I mean, for one, they didn&#039;t pull that trump card until later in the film.  Two, Blackout didn&#039;t &amp;quot;react&amp;quot; the way every other Transformer (including himself) did when hit with Sabot: Namely, in pain.  At the base, he merely &amp;quot;flinched&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
tl;dr I think it was a simple grenade launcher.  --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 06:28, 16 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re right, it was just a grenade round. On the DVD there appears to be, as the soldiers later relate, some kind of force field holding back the energy of the grenade. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:17, 16 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Blackout not dead? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In a recent video released by Bay himself, we see Prime clearly getting his ass kicked by Starscream, Megatron, and Blackout.  Is this currently worth noting, or is someone going to suggest Blackout has a twin?&lt;br /&gt;
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