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3D Battle-Card Game

2009-05-01T16:28:04Z

75.70.220.16:

[[Image:3dcard.gif|right|180px|thumb|Any chance you can fold the cardboard packaging into an Action Master vehicle?]]

'''The Transformers: 3D Battle-Card Game''' is a "constructible card game" from [[Wizards of the Coast]] (who are, of course, owned by [[Hasbro]]). The game involves punching out pieces from little plastic trading cards and assembling them as either a Transformer or its vehicle mode, then battling another player with a similar punch-out figure. '''Release Date: [[June 2]], 2007'''

The game was officially and very quietly placed 'on hiatus' by Wizards of the Coast in October 2008. While the flash interactive site remains on the Wizards official web site (see the direct link below), the forums and all links within the company's site itself have been removed. Plans for the Target-exclusive second expansion were also likewise canceled.

In April of 2009, 'gift packs' of these cards were made available through the Target chain of stores. ''Energon Wars'' boosters were available for $1.99, while a larger $6.99 gift pack included random assortments of ''Energon Wars'', ''Battle-Cards'', and trading cards for the first live action movie. Both were made available through the reseller "The Fairfield Company".

==Game play==
Game play is largely based on Rock Paper Scissors. Players choose one of 3 colored attacks secretly, then both players reveal their choices at the same time. If the opposing player's color matches the target color of the attack, damage is recorded and any special effects occur. Special effects include extra damage, transformation, and changing distance from an opponent. If both players pull the same colors twice, the player with a lower health scores a "critical" attack, which does extra damage and sometimes includes a powerful special effect.

==Cards==
WotC included 26 Characters in the premier set featuring characters from the live-action film, with additional characters being drawn from other Transformers series past, somewhat redesigned to match the 2007 movie's aesthetic.

Each pack retails for $3.99 and includes everything needed to play: two punch-out Transformers figures (each made up of two "trading cards" worth of pieces), a character stat card for each of those figures, a token card (for determining attacks and keeping track of hit points), and a rules pamphlet. Packaging for each 'player's pack' is modeled after the 2007 movie's aesthetic, and includes a cover picture of either Bumblebee, Barricade, Optimus Prime, or Megatron.

As usual with WotC's card games, individual cards are marked with a 'rarity', which determines how likely a card can appear in any particular two pack. Cards can be 'common' (marked by a circle on the card), 'uncommon' (marked by a diamond), or 'rare' (marked by a star).

===Autobots===
* #1 - [[Bumblebee (Movie) toys|Bumblebee]] - yellow 'muscle car' model - 20 points - Rare
* #2 - [[Cliffjumper (Movie)|Cliffjumper]] - red 'muscle car' model - 31 points - Common
* #3 - [[Evac (Movie)|Evac]] - yellow 'helicopter' - 29 points - Uncommon
* #4 - [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] - black 'pickup' model - 41 points - Rare
* #5 - [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] - gray 'sports car' model - 37 points - Rare
* #6 - [[Jetfire (Movie)|Jetfire]] - white and red 'jet' model - 38 points - Uncommon
* #7 - [[Longarm (Movie)|Longarm]] - blue 'construction truck' model - 35 points - Common
* #8 - [[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]] - blue and white 'muscle car' model - 26 points - Common
* #9 - [[Optimus Prime (Movie) toys|Optimus Prime]] - blue and red 'semi' model - 54 points - Rare
* #10 - Protoform Bumblebee - yellow 'fireball' model - 27 points - Uncommon
* #11 - [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] - yellow 'truck' model - 28 points - Rare
* #12 - [[Smokescreen (Movie)|Smokescreen]] - blue 'sports car' model - 29 points - Uncommon
* #13 - [[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]] - rusty 'muscle car' model - 23 points - Common

===Decepticons===
* #14 - [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] - black and white police 'muscle car' model - 33 points - Rare
* #15 - [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] - steel blue 'helicopter' model - 37 points - Uncommon
* #16 - [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]] - tan 'construction truck' model - 34 points - Uncommon
* #17 - [[Brawl (Movie)|Brawl]] - green 'tank' model - 41 points - Rare
* #18 - [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]] - steel gray 'jet' model - 24 points - Common
* #19 - [[Dropkick]] - light green 'pickup' model - 30 points - Common
* #20 - [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] - gray 'cybertron jet' model - 53 points - Rare
* #21 - [[Payload (Movie)|Payload]] - steel blue 'truck' model - 25 points - Common
* #22 - Protoform [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] - yellow 'fireball' model - 24 points - Uncommon
* #23 - [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] - rusty 'scorpion' model - 29 points - Rare
* #24 - Starscream - steel green 'jet' model - 43 points - Rare
* #25 - [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]] - blue 'jet' model - 24 points - Common
* #26 - [[Wreckage (Movie)|Wreckage]]- light green 'tank' model - 35 points - Uncommon

==Energon Wars expansion==
The first expansion to this game arrived in October 2007, exclusive to Target stores and hobby specialty shops. The set brings in characters based on [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]], [[Beast Wars (franchise)|Beast Wars]] and [[Unicron Trilogy]] figures. According to the game's official site, Optimus Primal and Megatron are the faction leaders for the set. The set also relies heavily on [[redeco]]s of the designs used in the original set, with the new set adding the 'Sports Coupe', 'T-Rex', and 'Beast' designs to the mix. The 'Beast' model can be constructed to resemble a cat or an ape, but uses the same parts regardless.

Other than by just checking over the card list, "Energon Wars" cards can be determined by the use of a more 'G1 styled' faction symbol on the cards. The original set uses faction symbols based on the 2007 movie's promotional art. Unlike other WotC card games, "Energon Wars" does not otherwise have a unique symbol which designates its cards as part of an expansion.

===Autobots===
* #1 - [[Blurr (Armada)|Blurr]] - Armada - light blue 'sports car' model - 28 points - Uncommon
* #2 - [[Cheetor (BW) toys|Cheetor]] (Transmetal 2) - Beast Wars - yellow 'cat' model - 31 points - Common
* #3 - [[Bumblebee (G1) toys|Classic Bumblebee]] - G1 - yellow 'sports coupe' model - 22 points - Rare
* #4 - [[Grimlock (G1) toys|Grimlock]] - G1 - gray 'T-Rex' model - 48 points - Rare
* #5 - [[Hot Rod (G1) toys|Hot Rod]] - red and flame-trimmed 'sports car' model - 28 points - Uncommon
* #6 - [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] - G1 - fire engine red 'construction truck' model - 36 points - Rare
* #7 - [[Optimus Primal toys|Optimus Primal]] - Beast Wars - black 'ape' model - 52 points - Rare
* #8 - [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] - G1 - White police 'muscle car' model - 25 points - Uncommon
* #9 - [[Side Swipe (Armada)|Side Swipe]] - Armada - Blue 'sports coupe' model - 24 points - Uncommon
* #10 - [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] - G1 - teal 'pickup' model - 26 points - Common
* #11 - [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] - G1 - rusty 'truck' model - 26 points - Common
* #12 - [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] - G1 - red 'tank' model - 35 points - Common
* #13 - [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] - G1 - sky blue 'helicopter' model - 30 points - Rare

===Decepticons===
* #14 - [[Blackjack]] - G1 - black and purple 'sports coupe' model - 24 points - Common
* #15 - [[Blitzwing (Energon Wars)|Blitzwing]] (who strongly resembles [[Quake (G1)|Quake]]) - G1 - red and blue 'tank' model - 30 points - Uncommon
* #16 - [[Bonecrusher (G1)|Classic Bonecrusher]] - G1 - green 'construction truck' model - 38 points - Rare
* #17 - [[Cruellock]] (in [[Doom-Lock]]'s colors) - Energon - red 'T-Rex' model - 32 points - Common
* #18 - [[Starscream (G1) toys|Classic Starscream]] - G1 - white 'jet' model - 42 points - Rare
* #19 - [[Megatron (BW) toys|Predacon Megatron]] - Beast Wars - purple 'T-Rex' model - 52 points - Rare
* #20 - [[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]] - Beast Wars - yellow 'scorpion' model - 33 points - Rare
* #21 - [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] - G1 - red and white 'jet' model - 24 points - Common
* #22 - [[Rampage (G1)|Rampage]] - G1 - red 'cat' model - 32 points - Common
* #23 - [[Ravage (G1) toys|Ravage]] - G1 - black 'cat' model - 23 points - Uncommon
* #24 - [[Sky Lynx (Energon Wars)|Sky Lynx]] - unknown continuity - red 'cybertron jet' model - 30 points - Rare
* #25 - [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] - G1 - black 'jet' model - 25 points - Uncommon
* #26 - [[Vortex (Energon Wars)|Vortex]] - unknown continuity - orange 'helicopter' model - 27 points - Uncommon

The artwork for Energon Wars has three notably different styles within it. One continues the trend found in the first series, largely using the 2007 movie aesthetic cues, such as Trailbreaker, who resembles a recolored [[Dropkick]] from the first set. This art is largely done by [[Gonzalo Flores]].

The second style largely copies the artwork from their toy likenesses. Ramjet, for instance, is clearly based on his '[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]' figure. This art is generally credited to [[Lucio Parillo]].

The final style is a very loose and simplistic 'cartoon' view, which seems to be an attempt to somewhat resemble the [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]]. Inferno and Grimlock are the best examples of this. [[Francis Tsai]] is responsible for these pieces.

===Rules Updates===
Two new battle mechanics, "Stun" and "Grapple", were also introduced. Both of these rules make a character more vulnerable to damage until he either transforms (for stun) or changes range (for grapple).

==Continuity(?)==
The first series clearly takes place in some version of the [[live-action film series]] continuity. The primary cast of the film are represented, as are various "offscreen" characters like [[Evac (Movie)|Evac]] and [[Wreckage (Movie)|Wreckage]], other characters seem to only exist in this particular [[micro-continuity]] such as "Movie" versions of [[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]] and [[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]].

The ''Energon Wars'' expansion seems to be a somewhat stickier case; versions of [[Optimus Primal]] and [[Megatron (BW)|"Predacon Megatron"]] serve as faction leaders, versions of [[Unicron Trilogy]] characters show up ([[Side Swipe (Armada)|''Armada'' Side Swipe]] and [[Cruellock]]), a few non-Movie characters illustrated in the film's aesthetic, and a couple of totally bizarre cases - a bright pink Decepticon Sky Lynx, a version of Blitzwing that looks exactly like [[Quake (G1)|Quake]], and [[Vortex (Energon Wars)|someone]] who may in fact be the ''[[Energon (cartoon)|Super Link]]'' version of [[Stormcloud (Energon)|''Energon'' Stormcloud]]. Overall, it almost appears to be a variant of the ''Universe'' concept - disparate groups of Transformers from across time, space, and continuity do battle (complete with Optimus Primal being in charge!).

== Trivia ==
[[Image:3Djet.gif|left|200px|thumb|I REALLY want to see them pull off Scrounge in this format.]]
* In some cases, even allowing for punch-card construction, the robot and vehicle designs differ significantly from all past versions of the characters. For example, Cliffjumper bears the head of ''[[Alternators]]'' [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]]. In others, however, there is an almost slavish attempt to recreate a character's trademark look, as is the case with Thundercracker or Ramjet.
* The card writers for the ''Energon Wars'' expansion did their homework, as many characters' special attacks are taken directly from their [[bio]]s: Whirl has his "Paralyzo Box," Skywarp has a "teleport" ability, and so forth.
{{-}}

== External links ==
* [http://www.wizards.com/transformers Official Game Site]
* [http://www.pelzigplatz.com/game/transformersCCG.htm Alternate Rules of Play, based on WizKids' Pirates of the Spanish Main CCG]

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[[Category:3D Battle-Cards]]
[[Category:Armada]]
[[Category:Beast Wars]]
[[Category:Energon]]
[[Category:Generation 1]]
[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Target exclusives]]

3D Battle-Card Game

2009-04-30T15:18:15Z

75.70.220.16: /* Autobots */

[[Image:3dcard.gif|right|180px|thumb|Any chance you can fold the cardboard packaging into an Action Master vehicle?]]

'''The Transformers: 3D Battle-Card Game''' is a "constructible card game" from [[Wizards of the Coast]] (who are, of course, owned by [[Hasbro]]). The game involves punching out pieces from little plastic trading cards and assembling them as either a Transformer or its vehicle mode, then battling another player with a similar punch-out figure. '''Release Date: [[June 2]], 2007'''

The game was officially and very quietly placed 'on hiatus' by Wizards of the Coast in October 2008. While the flash interactive site remains on the Wizards official web site (see the direct link below), the forums and all links within the company's site itself have been removed. Plans for the Target-exclusive second expansion were also likewise canceled.

In April of 2009, 'gift packs' of these cards were made available through the Target chain of stores. ''Energon Wars'' boosters were available for $1.99, while a larger $6.99 gift pack included random assortments of ''Energon Wars'', ''Battle-Cards'', and trading cards for the first live action movie.

==Game play==
Game play is largely based on Rock Paper Scissors. Players choose one of 3 colored attacks secretly, then both players reveal their choices at the same time. If the opposing player's color matches the target color of the attack, damage is recorded and any special effects occur. Special effects include extra damage, transformation, and changing distance from an opponent. If both players pull the same colors twice, the player with a lower health scores a "critical" attack, which does extra damage and sometimes includes a powerful special effect.

==Cards==
WotC included 26 Characters in the premier set featuring characters from the live-action film, with additional characters being drawn from other Transformers series past, somewhat redesigned to match the 2007 movie's aesthetic.

Each pack retails for $3.99 and includes everything needed to play: two punch-out Transformers figures (each made up of two "trading cards" worth of pieces), a character stat card for each of those figures, a token card (for determining attacks and keeping track of hit points), and a rules pamphlet. Packaging for each 'player's pack' is modeled after the 2007 movie's aesthetic, and includes a cover picture of either Bumblebee, Barricade, Optimus Prime, or Megatron.

As usual with WotC's card games, individual cards are marked with a 'rarity', which determines how likely a card can appear in any particular two pack. Cards can be 'common' (marked by a circle on the card), 'uncommon' (marked by a diamond), or 'rare' (marked by a star).

===Autobots===
* #1 - [[Bumblebee (Movie) toys|Bumblebee]] - yellow 'muscle car' model - 20 points - Rare
* #2 - [[Cliffjumper (Movie)|Cliffjumper]] - red 'muscle car' model - 31 points - Common
* #3 - [[Evac (Movie)|Evac]] - yellow 'helicopter' - 29 points - Uncommon
* #4 - [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] - black 'pickup' model - 41 points - Rare
* #5 - [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] - gray 'sports car' model - 37 points - Rare
* #6 - [[Jetfire (Movie)|Jetfire]] - white and red 'jet' model - 38 points - Uncommon
* #7 - [[Longarm (Movie)|Longarm]] - blue 'construction truck' model - 35 points - Common
* #8 - [[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]] - blue and white 'muscle car' model - 26 points - Common
* #9 - [[Optimus Prime (Movie) toys|Optimus Prime]] - blue and red 'semi' model - 54 points - Rare
* #10 - Protoform Bumblebee - yellow 'fireball' model - 27 points - Uncommon
* #11 - [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] - yellow 'truck' model - 28 points - Rare
* #12 - [[Smokescreen (Movie)|Smokescreen]] - blue 'sports car' model - 29 points - Uncommon
* #13 - [[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]] - rusty 'muscle car' model - 23 points - Common

===Decepticons===
* #14 - [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] - black and white police 'muscle car' model - 33 points - Rare
* #15 - [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] - steel blue 'helicopter' model - 37 points - Uncommon
* #16 - [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]] - tan 'construction truck' model - 34 points - Uncommon
* #17 - [[Brawl (Movie)|Brawl]] - green 'tank' model - 41 points - Rare
* #18 - [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]] - steel gray 'jet' model - 24 points - Common
* #19 - [[Dropkick]] - light green 'pickup' model - 30 points - Common
* #20 - [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] - gray 'cybertron jet' model - 53 points - Rare
* #21 - [[Payload (Movie)|Payload]] - steel blue 'truck' model - 25 points - Common
* #22 - Protoform [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] - yellow 'fireball' model - 24 points - Uncommon
* #23 - [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] - rusty 'scorpion' model - 29 points - Rare
* #24 - Starscream - steel green 'jet' model - 43 points - Rare
* #25 - [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]] - blue 'jet' model - 24 points - Common
* #26 - [[Wreckage (Movie)|Wreckage]]- light green 'tank' model - 35 points - Uncommon

==Energon Wars expansion==
The first expansion to this game arrived in October 2007, exclusive to Target stores and hobby specialty shops. The set brings in characters based on [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]], [[Beast Wars (franchise)|Beast Wars]] and [[Unicron Trilogy]] figures. According to the game's official site, Optimus Primal and Megatron are the faction leaders for the set. The set also relies heavily on [[redeco]]s of the designs used in the original set, with the new set adding the 'Sports Coupe', 'T-Rex', and 'Beast' designs to the mix. The 'Beast' model can be constructed to resemble a cat or an ape, but uses the same parts regardless.

Other than by just checking over the card list, "Energon Wars" cards can be determined by the use of a more 'G1 styled' faction symbol on the cards. The original set uses faction symbols based on the 2007 movie's promotional art. Unlike other WotC card games, "Energon Wars" does not otherwise have a unique symbol which designates its cards as part of an expansion.

===Autobots===
* #1 - [[Blurr (Armada)|Blurr]] - Armada - light blue 'sports car' model - 28 points - Uncommon
* #2 - [[Cheetor (BW) toys|Cheetor]] (Transmetal 2) - Beast Wars - yellow 'cat' model - 31 points - Common
* #3 - [[Bumblebee (G1) toys|Classic Bumblebee]] - G1 - yellow 'sports coupe' model - 22 points - Rare
* #4 - [[Grimlock (G1) toys|Grimlock]] - G1 - gray 'T-Rex' model - 48 points - Rare
* #5 - [[Hot Rod (G1) toys|Hot Rod]] - red and flame-trimmed 'sports car' model - 28 points - Uncommon
* #6 - [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] - G1 - fire engine red 'construction truck' model - 36 points - Rare
* #7 - [[Optimus Primal toys|Optimus Primal]] - Beast Wars - black 'ape' model - 52 points - Rare
* #8 - [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] - G1 - White police 'muscle car' model - 25 points - Uncommon
* #9 - [[Side Swipe (Armada)|Side Swipe]] - Armada - Blue 'sports coupe' model - 24 points - Uncommon
* #10 - [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] - G1 - teal 'pickup' model - 26 points - Common
* #11 - [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] - G1 - rusty 'truck' model - 26 points - Common
* #12 - [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] - G1 - red 'tank' model - 35 points - Common
* #13 - [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] - G1 - sky blue 'helicopter' model - 30 points - Rare

===Decepticons===
* #14 - [[Blackjack]] - G1 - black and purple 'sports coupe' model - 24 points - Common
* #15 - [[Blitzwing (Energon Wars)|Blitzwing]] (who strongly resembles [[Quake (G1)|Quake]]) - G1 - red and blue 'tank' model - 30 points - Uncommon
* #16 - [[Bonecrusher (G1)|Classic Bonecrusher]] - G1 - green 'construction truck' model - 38 points - Rare
* #17 - [[Cruellock]] (in [[Doom-Lock]]'s colors) - Energon - red 'T-Rex' model - 32 points - Common
* #18 - [[Starscream (G1) toys|Classic Starscream]] - G1 - white 'jet' model - 42 points - Rare
* #19 - [[Megatron (BW) toys|Predacon Megatron]] - Beast Wars - purple 'T-Rex' model - 52 points - Rare
* #20 - [[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]] - Beast Wars - yellow 'scorpion' model - 33 points - Rare
* #21 - [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] - G1 - red and white 'jet' model - 24 points - Common
* #22 - [[Rampage (G1)|Rampage]] - G1 - red 'cat' model - 32 points - Common
* #23 - [[Ravage (G1) toys|Ravage]] - G1 - black 'cat' model - 23 points - Uncommon
* #24 - [[Sky Lynx (Energon Wars)|Sky Lynx]] - unknown continuity - red 'cybertron jet' model - 30 points - Rare
* #25 - [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] - G1 - black 'jet' model - 25 points - Uncommon
* #26 - [[Vortex (Energon Wars)|Vortex]] - unknown continuity - orange 'helicopter' model - 27 points - Uncommon

The artwork for Energon Wars has three notably different styles within it. One continues the trend found in the first series, largely using the 2007 movie aesthetic cues, such as Trailbreaker, who resembles a recolored [[Dropkick]] from the first set. This art is largely done by [[Gonzalo Flores]].

The second style largely copies the artwork from their toy likenesses. Ramjet, for instance, is clearly based on his '[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]' figure. This art is generally credited to [[Lucio Parillo]].

The final style is a very loose and simplistic 'cartoon' view, which seems to be an attempt to somewhat resemble the [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]]. Inferno and Grimlock are the best examples of this. [[Francis Tsai]] is responsible for these pieces.

===Rules Updates===
Two new battle mechanics, "Stun" and "Grapple", were also introduced. Both of these rules make a character more vulnerable to damage until he either transforms (for stun) or changes range (for grapple).

==Continuity(?)==
The first series clearly takes place in some version of the [[live-action film series]] continuity. The primary cast of the film are represented, as are various "offscreen" characters like [[Evac (Movie)|Evac]] and [[Wreckage (Movie)|Wreckage]], other characters seem to only exist in this particular [[micro-continuity]] such as "Movie" versions of [[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]] and [[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]].

The ''Energon Wars'' expansion seems to be a somewhat stickier case; versions of [[Optimus Primal]] and [[Megatron (BW)|"Predacon Megatron"]] serve as faction leaders, versions of [[Unicron Trilogy]] characters show up ([[Side Swipe (Armada)|''Armada'' Side Swipe]] and [[Cruellock]]), a few non-Movie characters illustrated in the film's aesthetic, and a couple of totally bizarre cases - a bright pink Decepticon Sky Lynx, a version of Blitzwing that looks exactly like [[Quake (G1)|Quake]], and [[Vortex (Energon Wars)|someone]] who may in fact be the ''[[Energon (cartoon)|Super Link]]'' version of [[Stormcloud (Energon)|''Energon'' Stormcloud]]. Overall, it almost appears to be a variant of the ''Universe'' concept - disparate groups of Transformers from across time, space, and continuity do battle (complete with Optimus Primal being in charge!).

== Trivia ==
[[Image:3Djet.gif|left|200px|thumb|I REALLY want to see them pull off Scrounge in this format.]]
* In many cases, even allowing for punch-card construction, the robot and vehicle designs differ significantly from all past versions of the characters. For example, Cliffjumper bears the head of ''[[Alternators]]'' [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]].
* The card writers for the ''Energon Wars'' expansion did their homework, as many characters' special attacks are taken directly from their [[bio]]s: Whirl has his "Paralyzo Box," Skywarp has a "teleport" ability, and so forth.
{{-}}

== External links ==
* [http://www.wizards.com/transformers Official Game Site]
* [http://www.pelzigplatz.com/game/transformersCCG.htm Alternate Rules of Play, based on WizKids' Pirates of the Spanish Main CCG]

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[[Category:3D Battle-Cards]]
[[Category:Armada]]
[[Category:Beast Wars]]
[[Category:Energon]]
[[Category:Generation 1]]
[[Category:Movie]]

3D Battle-Card Game

2009-04-30T14:56:14Z

75.70.220.16:

[[Image:3dcard.gif|right|180px|thumb|Any chance you can fold the cardboard packaging into an Action Master vehicle?]]

'''The Transformers: 3D Battle-Card Game''' is a "constructible card game" from [[Wizards of the Coast]] (who are, of course, owned by [[Hasbro]]). The game involves punching out pieces from little plastic trading cards and assembling them as either a Transformer or its vehicle mode, then battling another player with a similar punch-out figure. '''Release Date: [[June 2]], 2007'''

The game was officially and very quietly placed 'on hiatus' by Wizards of the Coast in October 2008. While the flash interactive site remains on the Wizards official web site (see the direct link below), the forums and all links within the company's site itself have been removed. Plans for the Target-exclusive second expansion were also likewise canceled.

In April of 2009, 'gift packs' of these cards were made available through the Target chain of stores. ''Energon Wars'' boosters were available for $1.99, while a larger $6.99 gift pack included random assortments of ''Energon Wars'', ''Battle-Cards'', and trading cards for the first live action movie.

==Game play==
Game play is largely based on Rock Paper Scissors. Players choose one of 3 colored attacks secretly, then both players reveal their choices at the same time. If the opposing player's color matches the target color of the attack, damage is recorded and any special effects occur. Special effects include extra damage, transformation, and changing distance from an opponent. If both players pull the same colors twice, the player with a lower health scores a "critical" attack, which does extra damage and sometimes includes a powerful special effect.

==Cards==
WotC included 26 Characters in the premier set featuring characters from the live-action film, with additional characters being drawn from other Transformers series past, somewhat redesigned to match the 2007 movie's aesthetic.

Each pack retails for $3.99 and includes everything needed to play: two punch-out Transformers figures (each made up of two "trading cards" worth of pieces), a character stat card for each of those figures, a token card (for determining attacks and keeping track of hit points), and a rules pamphlet. Packaging for each 'player's pack' is modeled after the 2007 movie's aesthetic, and includes a cover picture of either Bumblebee, Barricade, Optimus Prime, or Megatron.

As usual with WotC's card games, individual cards are marked with a 'rarity', which determines how likely a card can appear in any particular two pack. Cards can be 'common' (marked by a circle on the card), 'uncommon' (marked by a diamond), or 'rare' (marked by a star).

===Autobots===
* #1 - [[Bumblebee (Movie) toys|Bumblebee]] - yellow 'muscle car' model - 20 points - Rare
* #2 - [[Cliffjumper (Movie)|Cliffjumper]] - red 'muscle car' model - 31 points - Common
* #3 - [[Evac (Movie)|Evac]] - yellow 'helicopter' - 29 points - Uncommon
* #4 - [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] - black 'pickup' model - 41 points - Rare
* #5 - [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] - gray 'sports car' model - 37 points - Rare
* #6 - [[Jetfire (Movie)|Jetfire]] - white and red 'jet' model - 38 points - Uncommon
* #7 - [[Longarm (Movie)|Longarm]] - blue 'construction truck' model - 35 points - Common
* #8 - [[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]] - blue and white 'muscle car' model - 26 points - Common
* #9 - [[Optimus Prime (Movie) toys|Optimus Prime]] - blue and red 'semi' model - 54 points - Rare
* #10 - Protoform Bumblebee - yellow 'fireball' model - 27 points - Uncommon
* #11 - [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] - yellow 'truck' model - 28 points - Rare
* #12 - [[Smokescreen (Movie)|Smokescreen]] - blue 'sports card' model - 29 points - Uncommon
* #13 - [[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]] - rusty 'muscle car' model - 23 points - Common

===Decepticons===
* #14 - [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] - black and white police 'muscle car' model - 33 points - Rare
* #15 - [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] - steel blue 'helicopter' model - 37 points - Uncommon
* #16 - [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]] - tan 'construction truck' model - 34 points - Uncommon
* #17 - [[Brawl (Movie)|Brawl]] - green 'tank' model - 41 points - Rare
* #18 - [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]] - steel gray 'jet' model - 24 points - Common
* #19 - [[Dropkick]] - light green 'pickup' model - 30 points - Common
* #20 - [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] - gray 'cybertron jet' model - 53 points - Rare
* #21 - [[Payload (Movie)|Payload]] - steel blue 'truck' model - 25 points - Common
* #22 - Protoform [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] - yellow 'fireball' model - 24 points - Uncommon
* #23 - [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] - rusty 'scorpion' model - 29 points - Rare
* #24 - Starscream - steel green 'jet' model - 43 points - Rare
* #25 - [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]] - blue 'jet' model - 24 points - Common
* #26 - [[Wreckage (Movie)|Wreckage]]- light green 'tank' model - 35 points - Uncommon

==Energon Wars expansion==
The first expansion to this game arrived in October 2007, exclusive to Target stores and hobby specialty shops. The set brings in characters based on [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]], [[Beast Wars (franchise)|Beast Wars]] and [[Unicron Trilogy]] figures. According to the game's official site, Optimus Primal and Megatron are the faction leaders for the set. The set also relies heavily on [[redeco]]s of the designs used in the original set, with the new set adding the 'Sports Coupe', 'T-Rex', and 'Beast' designs to the mix. The 'Beast' model can be constructed to resemble a cat or an ape, but uses the same parts regardless.

Other than by just checking over the card list, "Energon Wars" cards can be determined by the use of a more 'G1 styled' faction symbol on the cards. The original set uses faction symbols based on the 2007 movie's promotional art. Unlike other WotC card games, "Energon Wars" does not otherwise have a unique symbol which designates its cards as part of an expansion.

===Autobots===
* #1 - [[Blurr (Armada)|Blurr]] - Armada - light blue 'sports car' model - 28 points - Uncommon
* #2 - [[Cheetor (BW) toys|Cheetor]] (Transmetal 2) - Beast Wars - yellow 'cat' model - 31 points - Common
* #3 - [[Bumblebee (G1) toys|Classic Bumblebee]] - G1 - yellow 'sports coupe' model - 22 points - Rare
* #4 - [[Grimlock (G1) toys|Grimlock]] - G1 - gray 'T-Rex' model - 48 points - Rare
* #5 - [[Hot Rod (G1) toys|Hot Rod]] - red and flame-trimmed 'sports car' model - 28 points - Uncommon
* #6 - [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] - G1 - fire engine red 'construction truck' model - 36 points - Rare
* #7 - [[Optimus Primal toys|Optimus Primal]] - Beast Wars - black 'ape' model - 52 points - Rare
* #8 - [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] - G1 - White police 'muscle car' model - 25 points - Uncommon
* #9 - [[Side Swipe (Armada)|Side Swipe]] - Armada - Blue 'sports coupe' model - 24 points - Uncommon
* #10 - [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] - G1 - teal 'pickup' model - 26 points - Common
* #11 - [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] - G1 - rusty 'truck' model - 26 points - Common
* #12 - [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] - G1 - red 'tank' model - 35 points - Common
* #13 - [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] - G1 - sky blue 'helicopter' model - 30 points - Rare

===Decepticons===
* #14 - [[Blackjack]] - G1 - black and purple 'sports coupe' model - 24 points - Common
* #15 - [[Blitzwing (Energon Wars)|Blitzwing]] (who strongly resembles [[Quake (G1)|Quake]]) - G1 - red and blue 'tank' model - 30 points - Uncommon
* #16 - [[Bonecrusher (G1)|Classic Bonecrusher]] - G1 - green 'construction truck' model - 38 points - Rare
* #17 - [[Cruellock]] (in [[Doom-Lock]]'s colors) - Energon - red 'T-Rex' model - 32 points - Common
* #18 - [[Starscream (G1) toys|Classic Starscream]] - G1 - white 'jet' model - 42 points - Rare
* #19 - [[Megatron (BW) toys|Predacon Megatron]] - Beast Wars - purple 'T-Rex' model - 52 points - Rare
* #20 - [[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]] - Beast Wars - yellow 'scorpion' model - 33 points - Rare
* #21 - [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] - G1 - red and white 'jet' model - 24 points - Common
* #22 - [[Rampage (G1)|Rampage]] - G1 - red 'cat' model - 32 points - Common
* #23 - [[Ravage (G1) toys|Ravage]] - G1 - black 'cat' model - 23 points - Uncommon
* #24 - [[Sky Lynx (Energon Wars)|Sky Lynx]] - unknown continuity - red 'cybertron jet' model - 30 points - Rare
* #25 - [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] - G1 - black 'jet' model - 25 points - Uncommon
* #26 - [[Vortex (Energon Wars)|Vortex]] - unknown continuity - orange 'helicopter' model - 27 points - Uncommon

The artwork for Energon Wars has three notably different styles within it. One continues the trend found in the first series, largely using the 2007 movie aesthetic cues, such as Trailbreaker, who resembles a recolored [[Dropkick]] from the first set. This art is largely done by [[Gonzalo Flores]].

The second style largely copies the artwork from their toy likenesses. Ramjet, for instance, is clearly based on his '[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]' figure. This art is generally credited to [[Lucio Parillo]].

The final style is a very loose and simplistic 'cartoon' view, which seems to be an attempt to somewhat resemble the [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]]. Inferno and Grimlock are the best examples of this. [[Francis Tsai]] is responsible for these pieces.

===Rules Updates===
Two new battle mechanics, "Stun" and "Grapple", were also introduced. Both of these rules make a character more vulnerable to damage until he either transforms (for stun) or changes range (for grapple).

==Continuity(?)==
The first series clearly takes place in some version of the [[live-action film series]] continuity. The primary cast of the film are represented, as are various "offscreen" characters like [[Evac (Movie)|Evac]] and [[Wreckage (Movie)|Wreckage]], other characters seem to only exist in this particular [[micro-continuity]] such as "Movie" versions of [[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]] and [[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]].

The ''Energon Wars'' expansion seems to be a somewhat stickier case; versions of [[Optimus Primal]] and [[Megatron (BW)|"Predacon Megatron"]] serve as faction leaders, versions of [[Unicron Trilogy]] characters show up ([[Side Swipe (Armada)|''Armada'' Side Swipe]] and [[Cruellock]]), a few non-Movie characters illustrated in the film's aesthetic, and a couple of totally bizarre cases - a bright pink Decepticon Sky Lynx, a version of Blitzwing that looks exactly like [[Quake (G1)|Quake]], and [[Vortex (Energon Wars)|someone]] who may in fact be the ''[[Energon (cartoon)|Super Link]]'' version of [[Stormcloud (Energon)|''Energon'' Stormcloud]]. Overall, it almost appears to be a variant of the ''Universe'' concept - disparate groups of Transformers from across time, space, and continuity do battle (complete with Optimus Primal being in charge!).

== Trivia ==
[[Image:3Djet.gif|left|200px|thumb|I REALLY want to see them pull off Scrounge in this format.]]
* In many cases, even allowing for punch-card construction, the robot and vehicle designs differ significantly from all past versions of the characters. For example, Cliffjumper bears the head of ''[[Alternators]]'' [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]].
* The card writers for the ''Energon Wars'' expansion did their homework, as many characters' special attacks are taken directly from their [[bio]]s: Whirl has his "Paralyzo Box," Skywarp has a "teleport" ability, and so forth.
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== External links ==
* [http://www.wizards.com/transformers Official Game Site]
* [http://www.pelzigplatz.com/game/transformersCCG.htm Alternate Rules of Play, based on WizKids' Pirates of the Spanish Main CCG]

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Transformers: Universe (2008 franchise)

2008-06-10T22:26:52Z

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{{disambig3|Universe}}

[[Image:Universe2008Logo.jpg|center|300px]]

The 2008 '''''Universe''''' is the second ''Transformers'' [[franchise]] to use the name. Like [[Universe (franchise)|the previous franchise]], this line is intended to be something of a catch-all for toys that don't fit in the ''[[Transformers Animated]]'' line, currently the brand's flagship franchise.

Hasbro first announced the line at [[BotCon 2007]], stating that it would not have an overall story arc. The line's primary (but not ''only'') focus will be on "realistic" vehicles, filling a gap left by the ending of the [[Movie (franchise)|live-action movie]] line. The line's first offerings in 2008 will be a set of [[Generation 1]]- and ''[[Beast Wars]]''-inspired [[Robot Heroes]], and a continuation of the [[Classics]] toyline, now dubbed the Classic Series, in Deluxe and Ultra price points, with [[Legends of Cybertron|Legends]] and Voyager classes to follow. In 2009, the packaging will gain a "25 Years" corner logo to commemorate ''Transformers''<nowiki>'</nowiki> 25th anniversary, as the toyline's offerings expand to include updates of key characters from every franchise.

In January 2008, Hasbro launched a web page for the new ''Universe'' line, featuring a preview of the first wave of new Classics and a CGI reimagining of the battle between [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] from the [[The Transformers: The Movie|original animated Transformers movie]]. The tagline for the video, in keeping with the toyline's theme, was "They were always real to me."

Many of the figures in the Ultra price point will feature electronic light and sound. Each figure will come with the required batteries.
==Toys==
===Classic Series===
====Legends class====
*[[Brawn (G1)|Autobot Brawn]]
*[[Hound|Autobot Hound]]
*[[Jazz (G1)|Autobot Jazz]]
*[[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]]
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]
*[[Onslaught]]
*[[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]]
*[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]

====Deluxe class====
*[[Acid Storm]]
*[[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]
*[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]
*[[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]
*[[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]]
*[[Silverstreak]]
*[[Sunstreaker]]
*[[Octane|Tankor]] (an update of Octane, not named so due to [[Trademark|trademark issues]])

====Voyager class====
*[[Blades|Autobot Blades]]
*[[Blaster|Autobot Blaster]] with [[Blockrock|Blockrock Mini-Con]]!
*[[Dropshot (Universe)|Decepticon Dropshot]]
*[[Heavy Load (Universe)|Decepticon Heavy Load]] with [[Drillbit|Drillbit Mini-Con]]!
*Nemesis Prime (San Diego Comic Convention Exclusive)

====Ultra class====
*[[Onslaught]]
*[[Powerglide]]
*[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]
*[[Storm Cloud (G1)|Storm Cloud]]

====Multipacks====
*Target exclusive Legends 5-packs
**Aerial Rivals
***[[Air Raid]]
***[[Blades|Autobot Blades]]
***[[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]
***[[Skydive (G1)|Skydive]]
***[[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]]
**Leadership Team
***[[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Zone]]
***[[Hun-Gurrr]]
***[[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]]
***[[Scattershot]]
***[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]

*Target exclusive Voyager Deluxe Comic 2-Packs
**[[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] vs. [[Roadbuster|Autobot Roadbuster]]
**[[Springer]] vs. [[Ratbat]]

===Armada Series===
*Mini-Con 12-Pack (K-Mart Exclusive)
**[[Backstop (Universe)|Backstop]]
**[[Blight (Universe)|Blight]]
**[[Brimstone (Universe)|Brimstone]]
**[[Bodyblock]]
**[[Boltflash]]
**[[Cloudraker (Universe)|Cloudraker]]
**[[Flatfoot]]
**[[Heavytread]]
**[[Knockdown (Universe)|Knockdown]]
**[[Makeshift (Universe)|Makeshift]]
**[[Skyhammer (Universe)|Skyhammer]]
**[[Suppressor]]

===25th Anniversary===
====Deluxe class====
* [[Hound|Autobot Hound]] with [[Ravage]]
* [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]]
* [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] with [[Nightstick (Decepticon)|Nightstick]]
* [[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]] with [[Jolt (Armada)|Jolt]]

====Other====
* [[Optimus Prime (G1)|25th Anniversary Optimus Prime Pack]]

===Robot Heroes===

====G1====
*''G1'' [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] & [[Rumble (G1)| Rumble]]
*''G1'' [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] & [[Blitzwing (G1)| Blitzwing]]
*''G1'' [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] & [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]
*''G1'' [[Blaster]] & [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]]
*''G1'' [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] & [[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]]

====Beast Wars/Machines====
*''Beast Wars'' [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] & [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]]
*''Beast Wars'' [[Optimus Primal|Optimus Primal]] & [[Tarantulas|Tarantulas]]
*''Beast Wars'' [[Rattrap|Rattrap]] & [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]
*''Beast Wars'' [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] & [[Waspinator|Waspinator]]
*''Beast Wars'' [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)|Silverbolt]] & [[Megatron (BW)|Transmetal Megatron]]
*''Beast Machines'' [[Cheetor (BM)|Cheetor]] & [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]]

==External links==

[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/universe/ Hasbro's Transformers Universe front page]

[[Category: Franchises]]
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Talk:Transformers: Universe (2008 franchise)

2008-06-10T22:26:23Z

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Is this actually a franchise? A franchise has a continuity/ies associated with it in every other use we have. This has like 4, most of which predate Universe 2008. This feels more like an umbrella title for a product 'line' containing offerings from multiple franchises than than a franchise itself. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:15, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
:Judging by the list of "franchises" on the [[Franchise]] page (Commemorative Series? Machine Wars?), yeah, this fits. Maybe we need to revise our definition. [[User:JW|JW]] 01:41, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
::As the guy who's put most of that list together, I will say that it includes ''every'' toy line, regardless of the amount of fiction associated with it or the universe that the fiction falls under. Some franchises ''are'' little more than toylines, but ''every'' toyline has some kind of fiction associated with it, even if it's just a lame quote for the character. Maybe that list is more toy lines than true franchises, but I don't know how or where you'd draw the line. But, re: Derik's concern, if "continuity" was the sole requirement for being a franchise, then BW and BM would get sucked up by G1. All the new Universe stuff is being marketed under a common packaging style and title -- that to me is the very definition of a franchise. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 02:01, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
:::So, what do we call this on the front page? Universe 2008? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:18, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

=="Armada" Section Incorrectly Titled==
That 12-pack of Mini-Cons is under the subtitle "Armada", but the Armada line has nothing to do with the set other than introduce Mini-Cons, in that all those 'cons in the set are Classics era molds. All Armada minicon team molds wore out after the Cybertron two packs, although Armada "bulk" molds still usable are gang-molded with the acompanying mini-con(s), which is why movie Inferno (Armada Red-Alert repaint) has the unamed (Longarm) mini-con. Also, isn't the 12-set a K-Mart Exclusive, and thus be written as such?

:The set is a K-Mart Exclusive, yes.. but it is also clearly identified as 'Armada Series' for Universe. [[Special:Contributions/75.70.220.16|75.70.220.16]] 22:26, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

==Video==

Sweet! (fangirl squeal!)

Think there's any chance in high heaven they *might* consider cgi-ing the rest of the '86 movie? I would sssssoooo love to see Soundwave like that!

Hey, a girl can dream, can't she?--[[User:Nightshade83|Nightshade83]] 13:36, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

== As of Botcon... ==

This is shaping up to be a helluva toyline. I thought Classics spoiled us, but I daresay this is better.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 02:46, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

== Wow... Hot Shot is getting a classics toy... ==

Please let it be a new mold... And have a reference to JaAm!11--[[User:Dynamus Prime|Dynamus Prime]] 12:46, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
:It is a new mold. They showed us an early prototype, and it comes with a new Jolt. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:50, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
::But no axelzooka gimick, even though the new Jolt can attach onto the new Hot Shot --[[User:AutobotFreak643|AutobotFreak643]] 22:31, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

== Aerial Rivals ? ==

Where'd we officially learn the identities of the Aerial Rivials (and did we learn about the K-Mart minicons?). Kyde said they'd be up of Transformers.com but they weren't yet last time I checked. --[[User:71.235.142.128|71.235.142.128]] 13:56, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

:Anyone know? I only ask because I'm a big Skydive fan and am curious to confirm we'll have him and Air Raid to go with Silverbolt and Fireflight. Does Hasbro still have "Slighshot"? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:34, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

== Robot Heroes ==
Just curious, where was the news about BM versions of Cheetor and Tankor being in Robot Heroes announced? It really seems to come out of left-field. I would think some citing or notation would be in order, at least in this dicussion page... [[User:TFVanguard|Vanguard]] 21:14, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

== I think it's time to change this just a bit ==

OK we have a bit of inaccuracy in this article, as I just noticed.
Hasbro has just published the official bios for some of the toys on the Hasbro toys shop page, and it shows us that Blaster and Heavy load are not part of the classics series!
See for youself:
[http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/ProductsByBrand.htm?BR=496&SBR=97&ST=SO&ID=21936&PG=2 Heavy load]
[http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/ProductsByBrand.htm?BR=496&SBR=97&ST=SO&ID=21937&PG=2 Blaster] and as a comparison, [http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/ProductsByBrand.htm?BR=496&SBR=97&ST=SO&ID=21959&PG=1 ONSLAUGHT].
Now we have to create a separate page for Blaster, also a separate section for the non classics Universe figures.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 17:50, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

:Um, no. They're all part of 'Universe 2.0', which is what this page is about. [[User:TFVanguard|Vanguard]] 12:56, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:::...Monzo? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:17, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:::: At the very least, we should probably wait until final packaging comes out. Relying on the 'headers' of the Hasbro shop to see what goes where seems pretty bone-headed to me, considering its history and all. [[User:TFVanguard|Vanguard]] 16:08, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::The back of the boxes plainly say "Classics Series". [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:52, 4 June 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>