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Talk:Shell program

2007-09-20T04:14:19Z

75.72.21.221: New page: So it's really a program, right? Not a physical thing actually sitting inside her like the diagnostics show?

So it's really a program, right? Not a physical thing actually sitting inside her like the diagnostics show?<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Dinobot (BW)

2007-09-18T00:18:51Z

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So, do we call the clone a seperate character? But for Rampage's death, he would have... remaiend so, but it becoems complicated with DB posessing his own clone, and the two never really... existed side-by-side enough to require seperate pages... And yet- by Wiki standards we seem to consider clones seperate dudes. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

TM2 Dinobot ''is'' a separate character. I don't think it's complicated at all, regardless of his totally unexplained personality change in the finale. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 08:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

<nowiki>*lick*</nowiki> -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 09:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

For Dinobot's TM2 entry, notarize that it's a Predacon clone created by Megatron, and decidedly not the original. In it's story background, simply say that 'Originally, an episode was planned which showed Rattrap uploading the original Dinobot's memories into the clone. This episode was not made, however, leaving a serious plot hole for the final season of Beast Wars, and the handling of the Dinobot TM2 character.' --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]

:<nowiki>*scratches head*</nowiki> Soo... if you make a new body for Dinobot and load his memories into it off a data backup, it's a new character. But if you make a new body for '''Optimus Prime'''... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

:: Point being is that we never actually SEE Dinobot II's memory implant (aside from a very well done fan-comic), so he's still a completely seperate being (a literal twin brother), as far as the cartoon's involved. --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]

:: No one ever "made a new body ''for'' Dinobot," Megatron created a clone of the original that would be loyal to him, and gave it life with half of someone else's spark. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
::: What he said. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:12, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

::::Oh! Liek prowl and Chip! Why didn't you jsut say so? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

How would the *other* Dinobot clone fit in? You know, the one that he ate?

I would give "Double Dinobot" a new page.
P.S. What about a line or two about the Cyber-Raptors?[[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 00:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

IIRC, Dinobot's nontransforming clone was officially named 'Clone One.' -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
===Character entries===
They should be written "in universe," without breaking the fourth wall. Meaning no "But Jhiaxus how do you live, I thought you died in G2 #11." Never reference the name of an episode out-right. However, you can put the little footnote links to episode pages instead, as I have demonstrated. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

::Ah. I see, I'll make sure to do that in the future. [[User:Tantrum|Tantrum]] 17:27, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but am I the only one who thinkks ldans died to an hero sounds awful

No. That's the ''joke''. --[[User: EricMarrs|EricMarrs]] 13:29, 24 January 2007

Yes, but it doesn't suit the feel of the article

== Attention, Kitbashers! ==

I've noticed through several kitbash websites that A lot of people like to kitbash Dinobot's head, making it much more show accurate. Is there anyone who is willing to do this for a commission? If so, contact me via my discussion page. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 04:01, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

== Protection ==

We should probably get this article protected so people will stop changing the main caption. -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 12:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
:Needs moar Worf captions. Dinobot is Worf.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)

2007-09-06T03:39:18Z

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{{episodenav |BW |season=2 |3 |prev=Coming of the Fuzors, Part 1 |next=Tangled Web}}
'''Writers:''' [[Bob Forward]]

Vastly outnumbered, the remaining [[Maximal|Maximals]] must defend their base from a [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] assault while [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] takes a dangerous journey.

'''Major characters (in order of appearance):''' Characters

'''Minor characters (in order of appearance):''' Characters

'''Original air date:''' November 9, 1997

==Summary==
Vastly outnumbered, [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]], [[Rattrap]], and [[Cheetor]] attempt to hold off the Predacons some distance form their base, to allow Rhinox to complete his mission to travel through the [[Allspark]]. When [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] orders them to take no survivors, [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)|Silverbolt]] protests, saying they should let the Maximals surrender, only to be struck by the irate Predacon commander. When Silverbolt is preplexed by their resistance, Megatron realizes that they are keeping them from their base. He orders [[Waspinator]] and Silverbolt to head to the ''[[Axalon]]''. Cheetor takes to the air, and Rattrap converts to vehicle mode, ordering Dinobot to hop on and provide cover fire (disgusting the former Predacon).

[[Tarantulas]], however, is using the psychic link to force [[Blackarachnia]] to search for information on the [[Golden Disk]]s. While she searches through the files, she discovers something of importance, but refuses to show Tarantulas. When Tarantulas is rendered unconciouss by a boulder, Blackarachnia downloads the information, then destroys the computer, claiming that it was bobytrapped.

Reaching the ''Axalon'', Silverbolt is shot down by the autoguns, and captured by the Maximals. Dinobot prepares to destroy him, but Rattrap and Cheetor prevent him, instead taking him in to repair him. Rhinox, who has finished, tells the Maximals to they must hold the Predacons off for a little while longer. Inside the Axalon, a charge hits the device Rhinox was connected to, travelling to a [[stasis pod]] with a blank [[protoform]]. Outside, the shields fail under the fire, and the Maximals engage—to discover that they are out of ammo. The Predacons seriously injure the Maximals.

Having waited a long time for their victory, the Predacons approach, prepared to dilver the killing blow. Before they can finish the Maximals off, there is an exlposion in the hull of the ''Axalon''. When the smoke clears, the Maximals and Predacons alike are shocked to see a new participant—[[Optimus Primal]]. The Predacons attempt to destroy him, but Primal, now with his own [[Transmetal]] body, causes the Predacons to scatter. Primal takes to the air, dispatching the rest of the Predacons. Megatron attempts to kill Primal, but Silverbolt knocks Megatron off a cliff, defecting to the Maximals.

At the ''[[Darksyde]]'', Blackarachnia tells Megatron that Dinobot stole the Disks and destroyed the computers. Megatron then declares that the Beast Wars has entered a new phase, while, unseen, binary code flashes across Blackarachnia's eyes.

==Notes==
===Trivia===
*After Rattrap throws a rock in the air as an example of what would happen if they moved away from the cover of the boulder, it's blasted into a tiny pebble and hits the ground. All 3 Maximals "eyes" then pop out of their heads towards the rock in the fashion of the eyeball gag in classic Tex Avery cartoons.

===Technical/Animation glitches===
*Glitch

===Continuity errors===
* Tarantulas and Waspinator arrive again mid-battle, despite having already arrived at the end of the previous episode.
* Waspinator and Silverbolt take off for the Maximal base twice, clearly going over the Maximals' heads a second time as they reassert the danger of the situation in different phrasing than before.
* Dinobot says his weapon is depleted, despite clearly having ammunition bandoliers criscrossed over his torso. The weapon gets fired more times before the episode ends, anyway.

===Transformers references===
*While Blackarachnia is searching through Megatron's stuff, [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]'s head is in the pile. Wonder how he got that...
*During one of Rhinox's trips through the [[Allspark|Matrix]], near the end of the episode, the [[Autobot]] [[Matrix of Leadership]] is seen floating.
*When Rattrap askes where Rhinox whent, he described the Matrix as "[['Til all are one|where all are one]]".

===Real-world references===
*Reference

==External links==
*Link
[[Category:Beast Wars episodes]]<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)

2007-09-06T03:35:48Z

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{{episodenav |BW |season=2 |3 |prev=Coming of the Fuzors, Part 1 |next=Tangled Web}}
'''Writers:''' [[Bob Forward]]

Vastly outnumbered, the remaining [[Maximal|Maximals]] must defend their base from a [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] assault while [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] takes a dangerous journey.

'''Major characters (in order of appearance):''' Characters

'''Minor characters (in order of appearance):''' Characters

'''Original air date:''' November 9, 1997

==Summary==
Vastly outnumbered, [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]], [[Rattrap]], and [[Cheetor]] attempt to hold off the Predacons some distance form their base, to allow Rhinox to complete his mission to travel through the [[Allspark]]. When [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] orders them to take no survivors, [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)|Silverbolt]] protests, saying they should let the Maximals surrender, only to be struck by the irate Predacon commander. When Silverbolt is preplexed by their resistance, Megatron realizes that they are keeping them from their base. He orders [[Waspinator]] and Silverbolt to head to the ''[[Axalon]]''. Cheetor takes to the air, and Rattrap converts to vehicle mode, ordering Dinobot to hop on and provide cover fire (disgusting the former Predacon).

[[Tarantulas]], however, is using the psychic link to force [[Blackarachnia]] to search for information on the [[Golden Disk]]s. While she searches through the files, she discovers something of importance, but refuses to show Tarantulas. When Tarantulas is rendered unconciouss by a boulder, Blackarachnia downloads the information, then destroys the computer, claiming that it was bobytrapped.

Reaching the ''Axalon'', Silverbolt is shot down by the autoguns, and captured by the Maximals. Dinobot prepares to destroy him, but Rattrap and Cheetor prevent him, instead taking him in to repair him. Rhinox, who has finished, tells the Maximals to they must hold the Predacons off for a little while longer. Inside the Axalon, a charge hits the device Rhinox was connected to, travelling to a [[stasis pod]] with a blank [[protoform]]. Outside, the shields fail under the fire, and the Maximals engage—to discover that they are out of ammo. The Predacons seriously injure the Maximals.

Having waited a long time for their victory, the Predacons approach, prepared to dilver the killing blow. Before they can finish the Maximals off, there is an exlposion in the hull of the ''Axalon''. When the smoke clears, the Maximals and Predacons alike are shocked to see a new participant—[[Optimus Primal]]. The Predacons attempt to destroy him, but Primal, now with his own [[Transmetal]] body, causes the Predacons to scatter. Primal takes to the air, dispatching the rest of the Predacons. Megatron attempts to kill Primal, but Silverbolt knocks Megatron off a cliff, defecting to the Maximals.

At the ''[[Darksyde]]'', Blackarachnia tells Megatron that Dinobot stole the Disks and destroyed the computers. Megatron then declares that the Beast Wars has entered a new phase, while, unseen, binary code flashes across Blackarachnia's eyes.

==Notes==
===Trivia===
*After Rattrap throws a rock in the air as an example of what would happen if they moved away from the cover of the boulder, it's blasted into a tiny pebble and hits the ground. All 3 Maximals "eyes" then pop out of their heads towards the rock in the fashion of the eyeball gag in classic Tex Avery cartoons.

===Technical/Animation glitches===
*Glitch

===Continuity errors===
* Tarantulas and Waspinator arrive again mid-battle, despite having already arrived at the end of the previous episode.
* Waspinator and Silverbolt take off for the Maximal base twice, clearly going over the Maximals' heads a second time as they reassert the danger of the situation in different phrasing than before.
* Dinobot says his weapon is depleted, so what are those ammunition bandoliers he's got criscrossed over his chassis?

===Transformers references===
*While Blackarachnia is searching through Megatron's stuff, [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]'s head is in the pile. Wonder how he got that...
*During one of Rhinox's trips through the [[Allspark|Matrix]], near the end of the episode, the [[Autobot]] [[Matrix of Leadership]] is seen floating.
*When Rattrap askes where Rhinox whent, he described the Matrix as "[['Til all are one|where all are one]]".

===Real-world references===
*Reference

==External links==
*Link
[[Category:Beast Wars episodes]]<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Mach Kick

2007-09-03T05:20:29Z

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:''Mach Kick is a [[Maximal]] from the [[Beast Wars Neo]] portion of the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

'''Mach Kick''' is the former sub-commander of the [[Thoroughbred Corps]]. After their destruction at the hands of the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]], he was left the only survivor. Once he recovered, he was sent to aid [[Big Convoy]] in his quest to obtain the [[Angolmois]] capsules.

Mach Kick has a very free spirit and a rowdy attitude. He enjoys cavorting about and partying like he was in a college fraternity. [[Longrack (BWN)|Longrack]] can’t stand him one bit and the two of them get into arguments on a near daily basis. While a party animal on the outside, he has great wisdom and courage within that shines through in the most unlikely situations.

==Fiction==
===Beast Wars Neo animation===
:''Voice actor: [[Teruaki Ogawa]] (Japan)''

===Beast Wars Neo manga===

==Toys==
===Beast Wars Neo===
*'''Mach Kick''' (Deluxe, 1999)
:''Japanese ID number'': '''C-36''', '''VS-36'''
Quite likely the only transformer in history with a brushable tail.

==Trivia==
*Mach Kick is one of three [[Beast Wars Neo]] toys whose designs were determined via a contest held by the Japanese Television (also called TV, Telebi, or Terebi) Magazine. The winning designs were revealed in the April 1999 issue. The others winning designs becames [[Archadis]] and [[Bazooka]].

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1999/Cybertron/MachKick/machkick.htm Mach Kick at TFU.info]

{{stub}}
[[category: Beast Wars Neo characters]]
[[Category: Japan-only characters]]
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Talk:Waspinator (BW)

2007-08-27T03:50:53Z

75.72.21.221:

2/21/07: Ok, let's discuss this instead of getting into an endless reversion war. Why can't the silly all s's to z's change be allowed? How is it any worse than say the constant rhyming on Wheelie's page?
:: Because it makes the article a pain in the ass to read? At least that seems to be the reason it got edited last time--[[User:UndeadScottsman|UndeadScottsman]] 03:55, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Is this a little more acceptable?

Why is Waspy in the "Toys 'R' Us Exclusives" category? As far as I know, unless you count the TRU-Japan-Exclusive version of Thrust, all of Waspinator's toys thus far have been general releases, save for the upcoming Botcon version.

You know, I missed the typo in the Botcon comic "Excecute jump now" panel there. Thanks alot. Now I'll be saying 'excecute' all day. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:29, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

The very first round of Fox Kids BW toys were TRU-only, which included Waspinator. -- M Sipher

:I can't prove that you're wrong but I'm sure you are. -[[User:LV|LV]] 01:11, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

::I also greatly question this assertion as I can find nothing to corroborate it. --[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 06:50, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

::: If memory serves I got my Fox Kid's Rhinox at Target. Even if memory ''doesn't'' serve, Waspy probably should be taken out of this category until some proof is dug up. I won't take him out myself, but I think someone should consider it. --[[User:Nemesis Primal|Nemesis Primal]] 00:38, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

== Stinger ==

If I'm not mistaken, stinger = sharpened ovipositor.. and ovipositor = egg-laying tube.. and therefore ovipositor = vagina.. which means Wazzpinator is a girl-altmoder like Tigatron!<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Tigatron (BW)

2007-08-18T04:46:01Z

75.72.21.221: /* ''Beast Wars'' */ Optimus hadn't arrived yet.

{{disambig2|the prominent Beast Wars character|the Playskool Go-Bot|Tigertron}}

:''Tigatron is a [[Maximal]] from the [[Beast Wars]] portion of the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]]. He was previously designated '''Unit 2'''.''

[[Image:Tigatron1.jpg|right|250px|thumb|I must kill you... because [[Primus|God]] told me to!]]

Damage to his stasis pod upon crashing to [[Earth]] caused [[Tigatron]] to emerge far more tiger than robot. A loner who is more connected to the Earth than any other [[Beast Wars|Beast Warrior]], he enjoys the planet's natural beauty and is often concerned about the damage that the Transformers' battle is doing to it. Scout, infiltrator, and sometimes programming guru, Tigatron has filled a variety of roles for the Maximals.

:''European-market name'': '''Tigretron'''

==Fiction==
===Animated continuity===
====''Timelines: Dawn of Future's Past''====
[[Image:Tigatrondawn.jpg|left|thumb|250px|He wasn't even supposed to be here today!]]

Tigatron was once known as Unit 2, part of the [[Maximal Command Security Force]] which protected the fragile peace that existed on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] in the centuries following the [[Pax Cybertronia]]. One of the Security Force's elite troops, Unit 2 was often put in charge of guarding important Maximal artifacts, a job that often required his amazing prowess at tracking. Despite his strong command of this environment, Unit 2 wondered if his destiny and place was elsewhere.

When the [[Golden Disk]] was stolen by a band of rogue [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]], Unit 2 responded along with Unit 1, [[Nitrostreak]]. After Nitrostreak was incapacitated, Unit 2 attempted to follow the [[Darksyde]] by commandeering the ''[[Chromia 10]]'', pursuing, along with [[Airazor (BW)|its pilot]]. During the ensuing firefight, their ship was badly damaged. [[Optimus Primal]] had their [[Spark]]s remotely uploaded to blank protoforms in the [[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]'s cargohold, which saved their lives, but severely damaged their core mainframes. {{storylink|Dawn of Future's Past}}

''(This story is a [[retcon]], as Tigatron was originally treated as a newborn protoform in the ''Beast Wars'' animated series. Instead, here he is revealed to have been a Maximal who existed previously on Cybertron but ended up on the ''Axalon'' in a stasis pod, damaged to the point of not remembering any of his past.)''
{{-}}

====''Beast Wars''====
:''Voice Actor:'' [[Blu Mankuma]] (US), [[Kōichi Tōchika]] (Japan)

Tigatron was born in the far frozen north, at first heavily damaged in his memory circuts and unable to remember friend from foe. In his beast mode, he patiently watched the Predacon and Maximal forces duke it out. When Megatron threatened the white tigers, and the Maximals conceded the fight, Tigatron knew his alliance.

His alliance established ,Tigatron became a background player, sending updates to the [[Axalon]] through communication towers and lending assistance to the Maximals when called upon. He was rarely seen inside the Maximal base, regarding artificial environments as "strange".

He and [[Cheetor]] held a strong sibling friendship. While Cheetor was youthful and eager, Tigatron was confident and wise. Cheetor called him "Big Cat" frequently.

[[Image:Airazortigatrontrigger.jpg|right|thumb|A cat and bird fall for each other. Love is truly blind.]]
Tigatron had an organic tiger friend named [[Snowstalker]], who may or may not have been the basis for his altmode. Some fans have speculated that the pair were [[Robot-fleshling romance|more than friends]], as the [[human|dumb stubbies]] say. Sadly, Snowstalker became one of the war's casualties, putting Tigatron in a funk for a short while, until he realized that doing nothing only meant more innocents would die.

Not much later, Tigatron was the first to detect a pulsing alien energy source. When [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] initiated a somewhat suspicious truce shortly afterwards, [[Optimus Primal]] ordered a covert infiltration of the Predacon base. [[Rattrap]] and [[Airazor]] made enough of a distraction to allow Tigatron inside the [[Darksyde]].

Inside, he hacked his way into the ship's computer systems and found out what got Megatron so worried - The [[Vok]] were coming back, and they weren't happy. Tigatron and the rest of the Maximals barely survived the subsequent attack of the alien [[Planet Buster]].

Tigatron and Airazor formed a very powerful relationship during this time. They both felt a strong connection to the prehistoric [[Earth]], and they frequently spent their time outside of the Maximal base in their beast forms instead. After the destruction of the Planet Buster sent dozens of stasis pods crashing to Earth, the pair set off on a voyage to find what had become of their Maximal comrades within the pods. Unfortunately, before they could discover any still-functional pods, they were abducted by a [[Metal Hunter|bizarre alien plant]].

The two were not seen again until much later, when their inert bodies were revealed to be the captives of the Vok, floating somewhere in a deep space nebula. The Vok removed their Sparks from their bodies, which were then fused into the awesomely powerful [[Vok]] emissary [[Tigerhawk]]. When the Vok influence was removed from Tigerhawk, the Sparks of Tigatron and Airazor likewise fused and entered the empty shell.

====''Universe: The Wreckers''====
=====''Primeval Dawn=====
[[Image:Primeval Tigatron.jpg|thumb|left|Hello, kitty!]]

Tigatron and Airazor's sparks were sent back to Earth by the [[Vok]] sometime after [[Tigerhawk]]'s destruction. Tigatron's spark took possesion of [[Ravage]]'s former body at the bottom of a lake. Joining Transmetal Airazor and a newly-created [[Primal Prime]], Tigatron battled [[Tarantulas]] and Ravage, who had also managed to escape death.

''('''Note''': The ''Primeval Dawn'' story was never finished, so how Tigatron came to join the [[Wreckers]] (see below) is unknown.)''

=====''The Wreckers''=====
Tigatron, Primal Prime, and others arrived on Cybertron during Megatron's anti-biological reign. Various teams met with the [[Oracle]], which assigned them various tasks. When Optimus Primal objected, saying that with all these soldiers, Megatron could be defeated easily, the Oracle swept him away and cleansed his memory of the recent events. Tigatron vehemently objected to this treatment of his former commander. A set of coordinates was infused into Primal Prime's head by the Oracle. When arriving at an Autobot shuttle, which was to ferry the Wreckers to those coordinates, Tigatron felt that something was amiss. It was then that the Vehicon generals [[Spy Streak]], [[Scavenger_(BM)|Scavenger]], [[Quake]] and [[Blastcharge (BM)|Blastcharge]] attacked. Tigatron used his Nature's Fury attack, utterly destroying Quake. During the ride in the Autobot shuttle, Tigatron meditated, recovering from the battle. Upon arrived at their destination, he once again sensed that danger awaited the Wreckers...

===''Beast Wars Metals'' manga===

[[Image:Blackarach24.jpg|right|thumb|Let's hope Airazor doesn't find out about this.]]

''(Note: although it picks up after the first season, the Beast Wars Metals manga is not in-continuity with the television series.)''
Tigatron acted as a samurai warrior and his body reflected that. At one point, he is forced to do battle with the [[spark|spark]]-less body of his beloved [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]]. Not wishing to harm her, he willingly let the evil Airazor take the opportunity to decapitate him.

Just as evil Airazor began to strike, the spark of the real Airazor entered his body. In cyberspace, the two embrace each other and vow never to be apart again. Their sparks then merge, resulting in the all-powerful [[Tigerhawk]].

{{-}}
==Toys==
===Beast Wars===
[[Image:BWRConcept07.jpg|right|thumb|Tigatron's control art. Note the extensive remolding from Cheetor that never happened.]]
*'''Tigatron''' (Deluxe, 1996/1997)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-8''', '''VS-8'''

: This mold is a [[redeco]] of the original [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] in cream, silver, and green, transforming into a fairly generic big cat in shape. His robot-mode parts color layout is notably different from Cheetor's.

: Later, [[Takara]] released him in a more [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] bright white fur with the copied-from-Cheetor color layouts. This version also has slight mold tweak to keep the beast head pointed forward. He was available both individually and in a two-pack with the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] [[Blackarachnia]].

*'''Tigatron''' (Transmetal Botcon 2001 exclusive)
:This mold is a redeco of ''[[Beast Wars Metals]]'' [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], which is a [[retool]] of transmetal [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]]. He transforms into a mechanical cat with flip-out thruster-wings. His robot-mode arms have spring-loaded flip-out blaster grips, which also have barrel extensions that can be clipped to his legs in beast mode.

===Timelines===
*'''Unit 2 (Tigatron)''' (2006)

: A retooling of the ''[[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]'' [[Clocker (Cybertron)|Clocker]] toy using Cheetor's new headsculpt, "Unit 2" transforms into an open-topped Cybertronic sports car. his rear engine assembly reveals a pair of spring-loaded flip-out guns when a [[Cyber Planet Key]]/[[Golden Disc Key]] is placed in it. This assembly becomes a hand-held blaster in robot mode., His side-pipes can also be removed and used as hand-weapons. He came with a bio card and a pale-gray Golden Disc Key with a Maximal sigil on it.

: This mold was also used to make [[Swerve (Cybertron)|Swerve]].

===Beast Wars 10th Anniversary===
*'''Tigatron'''
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''TM-11'''

==Trivia==
[[Image:Tigertron.gif|right|thumb|125px|C-L-E-M-S-OH CRAP!]]
* An unproduced version of Tigatron shown at Toy Fair in 1996 was cast in orange plastic instead of cream-colored.

*Tigatron's beast mode may well have been female. His template animal was female, and while wild felines have size differences between males and females Tigatron and Snowstalker were shown as being the same size; indeed, they were for all intents and purposes identical, such that [[Waspinator]] thought Snowstalker ''was'' Tigatron.
*In the Japanese dub of Beast Wars, for the sake of humor, Tigatron was played as a "samurai" ronin. Additionally, since Airazor was made male in the Japanese dub, instead of their relationship being romantic, Airazor was presented as Tigatron's ward whom he looked to as a "brother" (hence the close bond).

*His role in the Beast Wars cartoon was originally intended for [[Wolfang]].<ref>[[Ben Yee]], from a discussion with [[Bob Forward]], at [http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_frm/thread/9c79c4226fc6dd28/30c3cdf158ea6e52?lnk=st&q=bob+forward+beast+wars+tigatron+wolfang&rnum=1#30c3cdf158ea6e52 alt.toys.transformers]. The change was also discussed in the commentary track on one of the Beast Wars DVD releases.</ref>

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1996/Maximal/Tigatron/tigatron.htm Tigatron at TFU.info]
*[http://www.botcon.com/archive/story/characters/tigatron.html Tigatron's profile at BotCon.com]

== Footnotes ==
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[[Category: Beast Wars characters]]
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Talk:Airazor (BW)

2007-08-15T00:59:27Z

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dood is sleaping with airazor lyke sleaping with a byrd if you know

:Tigatron slept with Airazor in a Vok spaceship. They gave birth to a rapidly-maturing freak show named Tigarhawk ;) - [[User:Doogles|Doogles]] 22:12, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

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[http://www.dvandom.com/bb99/11convoy.GIF]
Here's a good picture of Metals manga Airazor, but I feel bad just stealing it from DVD's site. Also, I've been told that there are some better pictures, though this one seems fine (with cropping). Anybody else have scans they can contribute? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:56, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Added one of my own, though that one might be better. I just didn't feel like photoshopping. Made a brief manga summary with a footnote about proper continuity. I really don't think the Metals manga is in-continuity with the TV series, juding by character redesigns, alternate tellings of storylines and overall wackyness.--[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 07:08, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

:Speng? You have the Metals Mangas? I've been lookign for scans for years. ^_^; -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:49, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

:No, I'm afraid not. :( I've only *seen* random scans. I know mostly that the manga was a comedy-relief effort much like BWII (why the Japanese insisted on interjecting comedy into Beast Wars I haven't a fucking clue), filled with lots of bad and goofy character redesigns. Tigartron wore samurai garb, Rattrap was turned into Pikachu, Cheetor was...totally fucking wierd-looking, etc. This site is the best I can do for scans at the moment: http://www.dvandom.com/bb99.html I am forever monitoring eBay, waiting to pounce on the first Beast Wars manga that shows up (so far all I've ever seen are guide books). --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 18:44, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
::I totally have to upload one of those Pikatrap images. Absolutely ''hilarious''. And not in a good way. [[User:Singularity|Singularity]] 20:52, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

== Transphobia ==

Can you remove the caption that reads "Tranny"? I thoroughly dislike transphobia as much as I dislike racism or homphobia. You wouldn't caption a picture of Tracks with the word "Queer", so no double standards.
: I don't think the "Tranny" is a problem. Most of the captions on the site are smart-aliky (sp?) or sarcastic. The "Tranny" mearly pokes fun at the fact that Airazor was Female in all of Hasbro's BW material, but was male in the Japanese dub or BW, and female in Japan's ''Beast Wars Metals'' manga. That's one character being either male or female in Japan depending which of the offical media you looked at. Even when Hasbro changed the gender of a TF (C Override), the change was kept constant (no Hasbro material with Override as a male). --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 19:17, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
::Haha. When I was reading the summary in recent changes, I thought it was referring to Transformers. Interesting to see that you proclaim "Double standards!" when you're obviously new here. You're also taking this too seriously. [[User:Singularity|Singularity]] 21:21, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
: However, feel free to change the caption on the basis that it's not at all funny, like most of the captions try to be. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 22:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

: <nowiki>*blinks*</nowiki> I wrote the caption in question. It's not transphopic, it's merely based ont he fact that Airrazor is a gender-bender, as well as the fact the annual TF fan-awards are caleld the Trannies. If you want to change it, go ahwad-- but you have to find
somethign funnier to put in its place. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 12:14, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

== Toy Name ==

Since the comic advertizing the Timelines toy says "Airazor", I'm going to get rid of the "Name may change" comment, if that's okay. --[[User:Pakiro|Pakiro]] 10:52, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
* To be fair, the BotCon 06 toys were advertised both as just their names and as their names with the Axalon or Darksyde prefix. Until we get a word on what she'll be called for sure, though, I think the entry can call her just plain Airazor. If we have to add a prefix later, t'ain't the end of the world. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:09, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

== Conflict in story? ==
BW never says the protoforms are -infant- transformers, they're the -crew- in protoform form. If they're the crew they can't be newborns.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Scorponok (BW)

2007-08-05T01:09:05Z

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Okay, I know I'm hardly an expert, but come on... is it so hard to believe that BW Scorponok can be named Scorponok and have a scorpion alt-mode before the Beast Wars? Maybe he named himself after the ol' Headmaster, or based his alt-mode on that ferocious form. I mean, Megatron called himself Megatron, didn't he? Same idea.
: I'm not sure there's anything in the article that suggests his name being Scorponok pre-BW IS so hard to believe. So colored me confused. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:16, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, there's the picture caption of his exclusive comic iteration. It says 'Look at him... he was probably called Scorponok before the Beast Wars' or something, which to the casual reader (and I know there are only a few of those) would appear to be serious criticism. Plus I know you yourself had a separate figure painted up to look more like a pre-BW Scorpy (awesome, by the by), and I just figured there was some kind of perceived problem with it. Um, by the way, Walkyguy, since I'm new and useless... how do I identify myself on talk pages?
:type four ~s. It'll put in the proper signature for you [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 07:23, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
::I think it's a reference to the fact that in that particular comic, most of the BW cast seems to take their BW names only after getting their beastly alt modes. - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 07:50, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

== Transformation ==
I think it's unfair to say this Scorponok has the same transformation as all the others. There's a significant difference here.. the legs fold out from the body, and are nice and long and slender and jointed.. the scorpion body then folds in half, with the legs being attached as 'ribs' instead of on the legs boringly. The only similar part is how the tail and claws don't go anywhere...<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)

2007-07-30T03:02:21Z

75.72.21.221: New page: I think it's worthwhile to mention how show-accuracy was almost impossible given the 'magical' transformations on the show, which as far as I know are unique among transformers as not even...

I think it's worthwhile to mention how show-accuracy was almost impossible given the 'magical' transformations on the show, which as far as I know are unique among transformers as not even paying attention to 'possibility.'<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Transtector

2007-07-30T00:39:30Z

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I see Chris moved this article to the spelling I am more accostomed to. However, I would really like to see somebody produce evidence that one spelling or the other is actually correct. I've asked about this two previous times on random talk pages and nobody has answered me. How the hell is the word supposed to be spelled, and how do we know? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 21:16, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

: The kana is "to-ra-n-su te-ku-ta-(extdend last vowel sound)". The only ambiguity is if it would be "Transtector" or "Transtecter" simply going by phoenetics. But "Transector" is right out. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:20, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I assume once more information is avalible via the Victory series, the Brainmasters will be added to this section. - Ithekro
:It crossed my mind when I was adding to the article earlier, but the Brainmaster are never referred to as having Transtectors in Victory, so it'd be a cursory "it is unclear" mention. I'll add that now, actually. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 01:51, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
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Talk:Rubsign

2007-07-28T22:00:49Z

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Are the rubsigns "holographic" like it says here? Heat-sensitive, yes, but I wouldn't call them holographic (though it'd be kinda neat). Also, anyone with a good chemistry-major sorta idea of how exactly they work to fill that in? [[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:08, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Not a chemist, but I did dig up a rough outline. -[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 19:39, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

:Am I the only person for whom these NEVER worked?<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Huffer (G1)

2007-07-26T03:02:41Z

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:''Huffer is an [[Autobot]] character in the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Hufferg1.jpg|right|250px|thumb|"Here I am, brain the size of a planet, and they want me fight a war on [[Earth|some backwater redneck dirt planet]]. You call that job satisfaction? 'Cause I don't."]]

To say that '''Huffer''' is cranky is an understatement. Huffer's the poster boy for whiney pessimism. He complains and grumbles his way through every day, especially since he's been shipwrecked on Earth. If he thought his existence was unbearable before, it's intolerable now, and he'll certainly let you know.

Despite what a joy he is to be around, he's very effective at his job. A construction engineer, he can whip up anything of any complexity. Unfortunately, he'll be kicking and screaming the whole way.

:''Japanese name:'' '''Drag''' (do-ra-ggu, ドラッグ)<br>
:''Greek name:'' '''Gigantas''' (Γίγαντας)<br>
:''French-Canadian name:'' '''Grognon'''

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===

[[Image:Huffermarvel1.jpg|100px|left|thumb|AAAH! MONSTER!]]

Huffer complains of being homesick for his homeworld of Cybertron. Yet he still fights to destroy the Decepticons' transdimensional radiowave scrambler, which would have allowed him to contact home, knowing that if he allowed the Decepticons to use the scrambler, it could mean disaster for the Earth-bound Autobots.

Once he teamed up with [[Bomber Bill]].

====Classics====
Huffer is part of Grimlock's crew on the ''[[Graviton (Classics)|Graviton]]''. His attitude towards Earth has not improved with age.{{storylink|Games of Deception!}}

:''('''Note''': The ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' story takes place in a post-Marvel Generation 1 comics universe where [[Generation 2]] did not happen.)''

{{-}}

===Animated continuity===
:''Voice actor:'' [[John Stephenson]] (English), [[Yutaka Shimaka]] (Japan)

Huffer was part of the original crew of ''[[Ark]]''-based Autobots who crashed on Earth four million years ago. In 1984, he awoke and was reformatted into a mini semi truck cab. An engineer and not a warrior, Huffer loathed combat and hated being stationed on Earth as he longed to return to Cybertron. [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] would often have to motivate Huffer, reminding him to remain courageous in the long fight. During one of the first engagements on Earth, where the Autobots attempted to stop the Decepticons from attacking an off-shore oil rig, Huffer was trapped in the debris. [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] came to his rescue, cutting Huffer loose from the wreckage.

[[Image:Hufferg1animated.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Great choice in cheerleaders, Prime.]]

Damaged in a fall from the top of the [[Ruby Crystal Mines of Burma]], Optimus Prime was encouraged by Huffer, [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]], and [[Gears]] as he painfully tried to transform back into robot mode. {{Storylink|More Than Meets the Eye, Part 2}}

Prime was ever accident-prone, though, and after being [[Heavy_Metal_War|beaten down by Megatron]] and again struggling to transform, Huffer was helpful enough to tow Prime's trailer back to the ''Ark''.

When [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] authorized [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] and [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] to build robot dinosaurs, Huffer insisted that this was a waste of time. After the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] were completed and unveiled, Huffer remarked, "Dino''bots''? I thought you were supposed to make Dino''saurs''!" and laughed. This was followed by an awkward silence.

Though his death was never depicted, Huffer's grave is later mentioned amongst those of the other Autobots who died during the attack on [[Autobot City]] aboard their interstellar mausoleum. Along with the mausoleum itself, Huffer's remains were later plunged into a red sun as a side-effect of a [[Quintesson]] plot. {{Storylink|Dark Awakening}}

Bummer.

There are rumors that Huffer actually [[:Image:DeceptiBrawn1.jpg|defected.]] Perhaps he finally found his happiness?

===Dreamwave comics continuity===
Huffer was a part of the crew onboard the ''[[Ark]]'' when it crashed into [[Earth]] four million years ago while clearing an asteroid in the path of Cybertron.

He was one of many Transformers captured and reprogrammed by arms dealer [[Lazarus|Adam 'Lazarus' Rook]] for lease to terrorist organisations and shady governments requiring brutal military might. Fortunately, Autobots under the command of Optimus Prime repaired and re-reprogrammed Huffer and the remaining captive Autobots. Immediately, they were put to work on fighting Megatron's metallic virus which had spread deep into Canadian territory. Huffer was seen to be very gung-ho about starting the blasting process when Wheeljack cautioned the group that the anti-virus requires converting their own interal energy, and he needed complete commitment from them if his plan was to suceed. {{Storylink|Prime Directive, Part 5}}

Soon, the Canadian military arrived. Unfortunately, due to the recent attacks by both enslaved Autobots and Decepticons under the command of Rook, the Canadians attempted to stop the Autobots doing what they percieved to be an attack on their soil. When Wheeljack tied to explain what they were doing (in a rather agressive manner), the Canadians soldiers panicked and fired upon the Autobots. Huffer was blasted by a tank shell while trying to aid the fallen Wheeljack. {{Storylink|Prime Directive, Part 6}}

==Notes==
*It has been speculated by some fans that, in animated continuity, Huffer may have been created from Orion Pax's friend [[Dion]], the same way and at the same time Prime and [[Elita One (G1)|Elita One]] were rebuilt by [[Alpha Trion]].
:''For further elaboration, see [[Dion#Who_is_Dion.3F|Who is Dion?]].''

==Toys==
==Generation 1==
* '''Huffer''' (Mini Vehicle, 1984)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''14'''

:Huffer was part of the original 1984 assortment of Autobot [[Mini Vehicle]]s. His mold was originally used for the ''[[Microchange]]'' series of toys as an "American" truck. The ''Microchange'' toyline was meant to depict robots that transformed into toy cars, which accounts for the somewhat cartoonish proportions of Huffer's vehicle modes.

: This mold was used to make [[Pipes]]: for the [[Hasbro]] line it was extensively [[retool]]ed, while in Mexico and some European markets, it was straight-[[redeco]]ed.

*'''Minibot Team''' (Multi-pack, 2004)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''TFC-12'''

: Huffer was reissued in a "[[Transformers Collection]]" six-pack with [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]], [[Cosmos]], [[Gears]], [[Powerglide]] and [[Warpath]]. There are no notable differences between the original and the reissue versions.

: This entire set was redecoed to make the [[G1 GoBots]] set: Huffer was used to make [[Road Ranger]].

==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/Huffer/huffer.htm Huffer at TFU.info]

*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Huffer Huffer's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

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Talk:Snarl (BW)

2007-07-26T02:56:29Z

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He's more like a wolverine, eh? Lots of people confuse those.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Chip Chase

2007-07-26T01:15:21Z

75.72.21.221: /* What? Chip chase in the movie? */

What was wrong with the Dr. Strangelove quote? - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 11:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
: I don't know. I say it goes back. ''Mein Furher, I can valk!!!'' --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:28, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
:: I second that motion. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] 15:06, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

== Prowl-2? ==

Was he actually called Prowl-2 in Binaltech? (I ask because that name means... something specific, given that Takara puts CR/RiD in the G1 Timeline.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:53, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
: Sort of. They put Car Robots, not RiD, in the G1 Timeline. They can't put *both* in, since they're two different things, unless one happened after the other. Also, at the end of Binaltech, everything got wiped out and rebooted, IIRC, so one Prowl-2 can't become the other regardless. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:57, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, Prowl 2 was the name for his Binaltech body when it was planned to operate simultaneously with Prowl, back before he Died. On a side note did anyone ever translate that damn thing? And to Walky, Takara considers RID and Car Robots to be the same thing, at least that's what Sideway's first appearance being in RID seems to suggest. But until we get a Translation of that page we should take the CR/Movie stuff with a grain of salt. [[User:85.195.123.29|85.195.123.29]]
:::Uh...Car Robots *is* RiD, isn't it? I mean, isn't Car Robots the original Japanese version of RiD? Wouldn't that be like saying Transformers: Super Link isn't Transformers Energon? [[User:Kendrakirai|Kendrakirai]] 16:46, 14 July 2007 (UTC) (Last try, I think I've got this now)
::::Sort of. For example, they technically happen in two different continuity families. In Japan, there was this guy named Fire Convoy who had a bunch of dudes who travelled from another dimension to fight Predacons who travelled from another dimension on Earth in 2000, while G1 was going on elsewhere. Over here, it was another universe's Optimus Prime, no time travel or dimension hopping involved. The Decepticons didn't exist until Predacon Megatron built some. It wasn't just a direct translation, like Super Link and Energon were. Americans changed a lot, and the two versions happen in distinct universes, more similar to Galaxy Force and Cybertron in the beginning. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:11, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::Aahhhh, I see. Alrighty then. Chip Chase burgers for everyone! [[User:Kendrakirai|Kendrakirai]] 20:39, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

== What? Chip chase in the movie? ==
I want proof! I demand pictures!
:it's from the game. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
::Then maybe the article should say that, and not the movie! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:51, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah but it's the moviegame. The game based on the movie based mainly on the cartoon based on the toys based on completely different and unrelated toys. :)

==Yal==
Can we get a screencap of something that reads "Yal"? Otherwise, I assume that people are going to constantly "correct" it to Yale, even if we put a "(sic)" in there. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 16:00, 16 July 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Megatron (Movie)

2007-07-25T03:30:16Z

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== Human Name jokes ==

We might as well make the article play on his human-given names.

== Megatron's Cybertronian form ==

Has anyone else noticed that Megatron's vehicle form bares more than a passing resemblance to the ''Swordfish'', the personal ship flown by Spike Spiegel in ''Cowboy BeBop''? [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 02:39, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

::Not really, no. --[[User:EricMarrs|EricMarrs]] 12:07, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

:::The only difference is it's A. silver, and B. has three guns instead of one.

:I agree, it looks very similar. The wings in particular. I mean, it doesn't exactly look like THE Swordfish, but it looks like a 'mono-racer' from Bebop at least.

== Earth Mode ==

According to Wikipedia and IGN, Megatron turns into a stealth bomber. [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 22:36, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
: Until either one is verified by anything official, we're not including that "info". --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:38, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
::Reading the IGN article, they said they got this from playing an early version of the Movie's game. [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 01:52, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Still makes it somewhere between unconfirmed second-hand report and leaked info. With this sort of thing patience is best. IF it is true we'll all no for sure soon enough and it can go up then.n--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 02:51, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
::::Seibertron reported recently that some of the production staff hinted at Megatron not getting an Earth form after all, at least in this movie. I'd say wait until the movie comes out, because even if they make a toy it's still not confirmed. [[User:King Starscream]] 13:28, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::From the book media I've perused, Megatron stays silvery and alieny the entire course of it all. There's other things I saw, but I shan't go into them since all these books come out tomorrow and you can spoil yourself then. [[User:Terrocon Blot]]
::::::Which book? Sounds interesting. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 03:30, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::::All the kids books that come out tomorrow. The I can read, storybook, junior novels, etc. Heck, a few of the books have Megatron and Brawl standing side by side. He ain't Brawl. All these books come out tomorrow, and will be on display in your local book stores. (Seriously, this is screwed up. I can't seem to edit pages when I'm logged in.) [[User:Terrocon Blot]]
::::::::Looking at game footage, either the Stealth-Bomber Megs was an early idea that was discarded, or he gets an Earth mode later in the game. -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 19:57, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

==Sibling status==
I strongly question the inclusion of he and Optimus being brothers in the main bio, unless that is backed up by the movie itself, or some future toy bio, or other source stronger than books based on earlier drafts of the script. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:23, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
: If the movie does not contradict it, surely it is still true. :)
: FOr what it's worth- the prequel comics had this vibe goigng too, the ADF novelization mentions brushes by it,t he junior novelization says it explicitly... and I think there's at least 1 more source. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:30, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
: The DS game says so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:34, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
::As does the console version. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:47, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Okay, yeah. The game counts a stonger source. Although if it's not mentioned in the movie itself, I think it's going to require a footnote notation citing the places it is. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:55, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
::::The Decepticon DS version also says it flat out.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 07:45, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::What we have now is correct, and there is no need to change anything. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:48, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::For the record to future peoples, Optimus does call Megatron his bro in the movie.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 03:52, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

==*More* Misassemblies==

Yeah. I just got Super Megs and, uh, his hands are flipped. Or rather, I guess it's his thumbs and pinkies. Look at the box and compare. This should probably be noted... [[User:71.61.152.122|71.61.152.122]] 07:53, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
:Geeeeez, you're right. Is there anything assembled ''right'' on this guy?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 04:20, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
::I'm comparing photos at Seibertron.com, and um...I'm not seeing it.
:::It's most noticable in the picture of his macehand, but you can see it in the big one too. Don't look at 'pics' of the box, look at it with your own two eyes. >.> [[User:71.60.159.181|71.60.159.181]] 09:49, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

== Galvatron ==

I strongly belive that the allspark will resurect megatron in a future sequel and possibly reformat him into galvatron. It'll probebly bring him back to life at least
:I don't deny that I think the AllSpark will play a part in Megs's revival, but I highly doubt (and strongly hope) that he won't become Galvatron.

== Marinas Trench ==

I realize Keller said the Decepticons were dropped into the deepest section of ocean in the world, but he calls it specifically something other than the Marinas Trench. To that end, using "Marinas Trench" doesn't seem exactly right to me. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to quite decipher what he DID call it. Was anybody else? And what does other media say about the location? --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 15:19, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I concur that the trench name from the film should be used here instead of the Marianas. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:48, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
:Keller says "Laurentian Trench," which is a real ocean feature but by no means its deepest. He also says it's the deepest spot on the ocean at over 7 miles deep, which is correct for the Marianas. So, a fact-finding flub. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 18:23, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

::How dare the Secretary of Defense not be completely up to speed on the name of the deepest part of the ocean. (seriously, it's entirely possible that Keller had no idea what hte fuck he was talking about.) [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 18:27, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

== Megatron head article photo ==

the onepresent right now is a little blurry, wouldn'tthat one be better? [http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/tfbay5.jpg]--[[User:GUIGUI|GUIGUI]] 18:39, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
: No, because that one doesn't have the right head. We replaced the one you suggested with the current version. (Blurry? It's a sized-down version of a gigantic-ass render straight from Dreamworks.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:59, 22 July 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>