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Team Athenia

2012-09-25T08:40:02Z

75.84.122.182: /* The Cool comic */ typo

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:''Team Athenia is an [[Autobot]] subgroup from the [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:TheCoolExtraTeamAthenia.jpg|thumb|350px|Brawn always carries a stepstool in the event of spontaneous group photos.]]

'''Team Athenia''' is a squad of Autobots stationed on the galactic rim.
Its members are:

*[[Rodimus Prime (Animated)|Rodimus Prime]], the leader
*[[Brawn (Animated)|Brawn]]
*[[Hot Shot (Animated)|Hot Shot]]
*[[Red Alert (Animated)|Red Alert]]
*[[Ironhide (Animated)|Ironhide]]

==Fiction==
===''Animated'' cartoon===
Team Athenia battled [[Team Chaar]], composed of [[Strika (Animated)|Strika]], [[Spittor (Animated)|Spittor]], [[Cyclonus (Animated)|Cyclonus]], [[Blackout (Animated)| Blackout]], and [[Oil Slick (Animated)|Oil Slick]] for control of [[space bridge 687-030]], but was defeated. {{storylink|TransWarped}}

===''The Cool'' comic===

While guarding a [[space bridge]], Team Athenia found itself menaced by a [[Rock Lord]]. Attempting to fight it individually, their powers proved useless against its impenetrable shell. Rodimus then whipped his team into shape, combining their strengths to take down the monster. Victory won, Rodimus told his crew that with teamwork they'd be unstoppable.

Unbenownst to them, the Rock Lord had been unleashed by [[Team Chaar]] in order to test their strengths and weaknesses. {{storylink|The Cool Extra issue 2}}

==Note==
*Team Athenia is named after the planet [[Athenia]] from [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]].

[[Category:Animated subgroups]]
[[Category:Autobot subgroups]]

Rust Sea

2012-09-01T06:46:59Z

75.84.122.182: /* Transformers Prime */

:''The Rust Sea is a body of liquid from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] and an unknown [[continuity family]].''
[[Image:Homecoming RustSea.jpg|right|500px|thumb|]]
The '''Rust Sea''' is an area of unstable planetary matter and molecular flux located along [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]'s equator, stretching from [[Tyrest (polity)|Tyrest]] to [[Polyhex]]<ref>[[Letters page (Marvel UK)|Grim Grams #162]]</ref> to the [[Tagan Heights]] and [[Altihex]]. It constantly emits a collection of corrosive, yet relatively harmless gasses. It too is home to various forms of plantlife by the time of the [[Beast Era]]. It is Cybertron's most prominent sea, the only other one known being the [[Mithril Sea]].

The [[Hydrax Plateau]] rises out of the center of it. Cybertron's primary spaceport is located here, where planetary visitors must check in first.<ref>''[[Transformers: The Ultimate Guide]]''</ref>

==Fiction==
===3H ''Universe'' comics===
In some [[continuity|dimension]] at some point in time, [[Megazarak (Universe)|Megazarak]] killed [[Optimus Prime (Balancing Act)|Optimus Prime]] and left his remains to the corroding care of the Rust Sea. {{storylink|Nemesis Prime (Universe)|Nemesis Prime's ''Universe'' profile}}

In the Generation 1 continuity, at least since the beginning of Beast Era, the Rust Sea borders the [[Undercity]]. [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] and a horde of [[Piranacon (Universe)|Piranacons ]] were sent to the Rust Sea as best strategy to reach the [[Vector Sigma]] chamber. One of its old utility tunnels that had been closed before the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] was located deep under the Rust Sea's shore and due to long exposure to the sea's gasses been made easy to breach. Information on this made the Piranacons momentarily afraid of their own safety while working in the area, but Blackarachnia aggravatingly revealed that it'd take six million years of exposure to the gasses before anyone'd have to worry about its effects.

As the Piranacons went to work, Blackarachnia searched the area to ensure their mission's secrecy. She found [[Rattrap]] nearby in the Undercity and chose to kill him just to be on the safe side. She was stopped by [[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]], who was on his way to the Rust Sea and ignored Rattrap's subsequent warning about the location. Taking a solitary swim to ponder on his recent resurrection, Depth Charge soon found himself surrounded by the Piranacons. {{storylink|Homecoming (issue)|Homecoming}}

===''Shattered Glass''===
[[Image:Cliffjumper&SGGoryu Dungeons&Dinobots.jpg|200px|right|thumb|]]
On the hunt for the escaped [[Dinobot (SG)|Dinobots]], [[Sideswipe (SG)|Sideswipe]] and [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] made their way to one of the toxic bayous adjoining the Rust Sea. Among the crystalline growths along the bayou's edge that resulted from the Rust Sea's [[energon]] particles solidifying due to evaporation, they found [[Slugfest (SG)|Slugfest]]. Cliffjumper ran up to the little guy and wrestled him down, ignoring his claims that he had big friends. That is, until such a [[Goryu (SG)|big friend]] burst through the tree-like crystalline growth, looking decidedly displeased. Cliffjumper's and Sideswipe's initial attacks had no effect on the creature and the situation evolved such that Sideswipe became the involuntary distraction, racing through the bayou with the behemoth right behind him, while Cliffjumper tried his best to subdue the creature. Sideswipe eventually got himself stuck in some of the crystalline growth, at which point Cliffjumper finally found an opportunity to trick the Dinobot into unconsciousness.

After getting [[Astrotrain (SG)|Astrotrain]] to come pick up the two Dinobots, the duo noticed [[Huffer (SG)|Huffer]] rushing a little further down the bayou. They cornered him and interrogated him on why he was in such a hurry. In return for an [[energon rod]] and believing the information was not going to earn the two anything, Huffer revealed that he had spotted [[Grimlock (SG)|Grimlock]] in the [[Badlands (Cybertron)|Badlands]]. Cliffjumper and Sideswipe immediately went after the Dinobot. {{storylink|Dungeons & Dinobots}}

===''Hunt for the Decepticons''===
The Rust Sea is home to the poisonous [[oxide shark]]s, whom [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] based his [[Devastator (ROTF)#Transformers (2010)|color scheme]] on. {{storylink|Hunt for the Decepticons|Most Wanted website}}

===''Exodus''===
The Rust Sea's enclosure of the Hydrax Plateau made it difficult for the [[Autobot]]s to get extra troops to the area when the [[Decepticon]]s attacked it. Ultimately, the Decepticons won the battle and gained control of the plateau. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus}}

===''Transformers Prime''===
[[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]] mentions getting lost in "the Sea of Rust" alone. He compared it to the desert where he and [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] arrived on earth {{storylink|Out of the Past}}

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
* [http://transfans.co.uk/comics_guide_detail.php?id=190&page=9 Transformers #162 Letters Page on Transfans.co.uk]

[[Category:Cybertron]]
[[Category:Generation 1 locations]]
[[Category:Universe 2003 locations]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron locations]]

Rust Sea

2012-09-01T06:45:20Z

75.84.122.182: /* Fiction */

:''The Rust Sea is a body of liquid from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] and an unknown [[continuity family]].''
[[Image:Homecoming RustSea.jpg|right|500px|thumb|]]
The '''Rust Sea''' is an area of unstable planetary matter and molecular flux located along [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]'s equator, stretching from [[Tyrest (polity)|Tyrest]] to [[Polyhex]]<ref>[[Letters page (Marvel UK)|Grim Grams #162]]</ref> to the [[Tagan Heights]] and [[Altihex]]. It constantly emits a collection of corrosive, yet relatively harmless gasses. It too is home to various forms of plantlife by the time of the [[Beast Era]]. It is Cybertron's most prominent sea, the only other one known being the [[Mithril Sea]].

The [[Hydrax Plateau]] rises out of the center of it. Cybertron's primary spaceport is located here, where planetary visitors must check in first.<ref>''[[Transformers: The Ultimate Guide]]''</ref>

==Fiction==
===3H ''Universe'' comics===
In some [[continuity|dimension]] at some point in time, [[Megazarak (Universe)|Megazarak]] killed [[Optimus Prime (Balancing Act)|Optimus Prime]] and left his remains to the corroding care of the Rust Sea. {{storylink|Nemesis Prime (Universe)|Nemesis Prime's ''Universe'' profile}}

In the Generation 1 continuity, at least since the beginning of Beast Era, the Rust Sea borders the [[Undercity]]. [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] and a horde of [[Piranacon (Universe)|Piranacons ]] were sent to the Rust Sea as best strategy to reach the [[Vector Sigma]] chamber. One of its old utility tunnels that had been closed before the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] was located deep under the Rust Sea's shore and due to long exposure to the sea's gasses been made easy to breach. Information on this made the Piranacons momentarily afraid of their own safety while working in the area, but Blackarachnia aggravatingly revealed that it'd take six million years of exposure to the gasses before anyone'd have to worry about its effects.

As the Piranacons went to work, Blackarachnia searched the area to ensure their mission's secrecy. She found [[Rattrap]] nearby in the Undercity and chose to kill him just to be on the safe side. She was stopped by [[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]], who was on his way to the Rust Sea and ignored Rattrap's subsequent warning about the location. Taking a solitary swim to ponder on his recent resurrection, Depth Charge soon found himself surrounded by the Piranacons. {{storylink|Homecoming (issue)|Homecoming}}

===''Shattered Glass''===
[[Image:Cliffjumper&SGGoryu Dungeons&Dinobots.jpg|200px|right|thumb|]]
On the hunt for the escaped [[Dinobot (SG)|Dinobots]], [[Sideswipe (SG)|Sideswipe]] and [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] made their way to one of the toxic bayous adjoining the Rust Sea. Among the crystalline growths along the bayou's edge that resulted from the Rust Sea's [[energon]] particles solidifying due to evaporation, they found [[Slugfest (SG)|Slugfest]]. Cliffjumper ran up to the little guy and wrestled him down, ignoring his claims that he had big friends. That is, until such a [[Goryu (SG)|big friend]] burst through the tree-like crystalline growth, looking decidedly displeased. Cliffjumper's and Sideswipe's initial attacks had no effect on the creature and the situation evolved such that Sideswipe became the involuntary distraction, racing through the bayou with the behemoth right behind him, while Cliffjumper tried his best to subdue the creature. Sideswipe eventually got himself stuck in some of the crystalline growth, at which point Cliffjumper finally found an opportunity to trick the Dinobot into unconsciousness.

After getting [[Astrotrain (SG)|Astrotrain]] to come pick up the two Dinobots, the duo noticed [[Huffer (SG)|Huffer]] rushing a little further down the bayou. They cornered him and interrogated him on why he was in such a hurry. In return for an [[energon rod]] and believing the information was not going to earn the two anything, Huffer revealed that he had spotted [[Grimlock (SG)|Grimlock]] in the [[Badlands (Cybertron)|Badlands]]. Cliffjumper and Sideswipe immediately went after the Dinobot. {{storylink|Dungeons & Dinobots}}

===''Hunt for the Decepticons''===
The Rust Sea is home to the poisonous [[oxide shark]]s, whom [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] based his [[Devastator (ROTF)#Transformers (2010)|color scheme]] on. {{storylink|Hunt for the Decepticons|Most Wanted website}}

===''Exodus''===
The Rust Sea's enclosure of the Hydrax Plateau made it difficult for the [[Autobot]]s to get extra troops to the area when the [[Decepticon]]s attacked it. Ultimately, the Decepticons won the battle and gained control of the plateau. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus}}

===''Transformers Prime''===
[[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]] Mentioned he had traversed the rust sea alone. He compared it to the desert where he and [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] arrived on earth {{storylink|Out of the Past}}

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
* [http://transfans.co.uk/comics_guide_detail.php?id=190&page=9 Transformers #162 Letters Page on Transfans.co.uk]

[[Category:Cybertron]]
[[Category:Generation 1 locations]]
[[Category:Universe 2003 locations]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron locations]]

Talk:Commercial/Generation 1

2012-05-28T20:07:43Z

75.84.122.182: /* Many problems */ new section

There are an awful lot of dead links cropping up on this page, due to the flighty nature of Youtube hosting (users removing videos or having accounts closed, voluntarily or otherwise). Is there any feasible alternative available? I don't just mean a different video hosting site, but perhaps a TFWiki Youtube account so we can host as many of the ads as possible with a greater degree of long-term certainy? I assume hosting the videos on the Wiki itself wouldn't be feasible for legal and bandwidth reasons. [[User:Danja|Danja]] 15:57, 11 March 2012 (EDT)

== Many problems ==

The videos for "Technobots/Computron and Scorponok" through "Punch/Counterpunch and Clones" as well as the first two pretender commericals, "Powermaster toys", "Powermaster Prime and Doubledealer" "Quickswitch" "Double Targetmasters" "Classic Pretenders(first link)" "Mega and Ultra Pretenders" "Mega pretenders" "ultra pretenders" "Pretender Monsters(1989)" "Action Master vehicles(short ver)" "Hot Rod Patrol and Construction Patrol" "Micromaster Combiners/Combiner Transports" are gone because the uploader(s) closed his/her/their account(s).

The orginal version of "Powermaster Optimus Prime" and "(2007)
Metrodome The Transformers: The Movie 20th Anniversary Edition DVD Preview" is copyright claimed.

"Micromaster Combiners" is private.

The 1988 seacon commercial videos are both exactly the same.

Might be more problems but I didn't see all of them... --[[Special:Contributions/75.84.122.182|75.84.122.182]] 16:07, 28 May 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Multiversal singularity

2011-10-22T13:33:55Z

75.84.122.182: /* Time travel = Trans-Dimensional Travel */ new section

== Multiversal hand-wringing. ==

Personally, I think we may be spazzing out a bit too much about supposed "inconsistencies" in the Multiversal Singularities theory. It's getting to the point where we're editorializing about it in articles, and that I think is the time where we ought to step back and take a deep breath. Being a multiversal singularity obviously doesn't mean that the same events have to occur in every universe, nor that what happens in one universe to a singularity has to affect their presence in all other universes. Certainly [[Omega Terminus]] is highly divergent from [[Vector Sigma]], even though it's a singularity. Certainly [[Primus]] has been devoured by [[Unicron]] in some universes, while he persists in others. So all the hand-wringing over whether [[The Fallen]] will wreck this seems a bit overblown to me, and certainly gets a bit too speculative to be included in the articles themselves..--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 14:03, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

===Now that [[Hasbro]]'s given an answer===

Is it okay to put up some fanwank-y analysis anywhere on this wiki (outside of articles), like on this talk page or my user page? [[User:Item42|Item42]] 12:46, 15 March 2010 (EDT)
: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:06, 15 March 2010 (EDT)
: What I mean is, if some user (like me) can put up some analysis on what this answer meant and what it (along with other related stuff) means and implies, in both real-world and in-story context. I don't think one should put something like that in an article since it is ''just'' analysis and speculation. Like a lot of the stuff on [[Talk:Sari Sumdac]]. [[User:Item42|Item42]] 04:00, 16 March 2010 (EDT)
::No. Get a blog or go to a forum. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 04:27, 16 March 2010 (EDT)

==The One et al==
The One's story makes it pretty much necessary that he's a MS. Should we include him on this page, or wait until we get official word? (Hell, Prima's never even been actually confirmed as one of the 13, and we include him without question) Also, what about the Chronarchitect, a member of Primus' pantheon? [[User:Kaje|Kaje]] 19:37, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
: Prima HAS been confirmed as one of the 13, in the Ultimate Guide. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:04, 12 May 2010 (EDT)

== Reference Request ==

I know it was established somewhere (FP? or toy bio?) that Unicron and Primus function differently as MSings: Primus existing in all realities at once while Unicron only exists in one at a time and jumps between realities. That should be added here but I can't remember where its from and don't see it refrenced on Unicron's page (which I think it should be) any help on the ref? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 09:58, 6 July 2010 (EDT)
:[[Transformers: Cybertron: Balancing Act|Balancing Act]] certainly seems to establish this pretty firmly.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 11:32, 6 July 2010 (EDT)

==Proof, pudding, etc.==
So my rewrite was based on all the evidence I could scrape together by re-reading the source material and Googling for creator commentary. As far as I know I got everything, but it bugs me that nowhere did I find a real starting point for the "multiversal singularity" phrase or its philosophical foundation.

It's like.... the fiction started saying that Unicron was all about dimension-hopping and destroying universes in sequence, but it ignored the inevitable consequence of parallel Unicrons crossing paths. Then Ramjet dropped the "one universe at a time" bomb, which suggested that there weren't ANY Unicrons except the one in the then-current ''Cybertron'' universe, which in turn implied that all of them might be somehow the same dude. But the same storyline claimed that Primus ''does'' have multiple incarnations, and there are these other dimension-hoppers who may or may not have a similar nature, but none of the dots are connected for the reader, and then there are two Unicrons simultaneously anyway because of the hastily-established end to ''Universe''...

And then suddenly the fans are talking directly to Lee/Hasbro about "multiversal singularities" as though that's an established idea that applies to several characters in a coherent way. Where did that come from? Was the answer to the BC '09 "SG Fallen" question the first time the phrase "multiversal singularity" appeared? All of the Lee/Hasbro stuff is actually limited to The Fallen, so why do we assume anyone but him is an MS?

Basically what I'm getting at here is that I can't find any evidence that MS-hood isn't mostly a giant load of fanwankery. We know from Lee/Hasbro's comments that it applies to The Fallen, but ''that's it.'' The rest of what we have is just Primus and Unicron being all ineffable and "beyond," plus a storyline with a handful of ancient dimension-hoppers and some runaway implications. Like I said in the Notes section, we've already got pan-dimensional beings who have somehow stayed immune from the MS business (and I didn't even bring up The One or the Chronarchitect). What makes this certain group of characters so special, and why do we think MS-hood applies to them at all?

- [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 02:42, 11 February 2011 (EST)
:No argument here. I would also question how canonical those kind of behind-the-scenes answers to fan questions are if they are never backed up by fiction. Especially now since the behind-the-scenes word is that the new modern continuity, which is supposed to be ''the'' continuity going forward, isn't tied to the multiverse at all. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 13:56, 11 February 2011 (EST)

== Solus Prime ==

Solus Prime's addition confuses me. Doesn't she only exist in a continuity that doesn't have a multiverse? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:49, 12 June 2011 (EDT)
:You ought to discuss it [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal#The multiverse|here]], but largely it seems no one cares. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 15:56, 12 June 2011 (EDT)
::Sorry. I categorically have no comment on the topic of splitting character pages of those characters who appear to have a version of himself that does not relate to the multiverse. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:10, 12 June 2011 (EDT)
:::I think it's Hasbro's intent that all the members of the Thirteen are the same across each version of Transformers though, just as Optimus and Megatron lead the Autobots and Decepticons. I myself took the lack of replies indicated an unwillingness to split articles and treat them like the ones that cover a concept across the entire franchise. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 16:15, 12 June 2011 (EDT)

== Time travel = Trans-Dimensional Travel ==

The easiest way I can even hope to begin explaining the inconsistencies that are confounding me is that not only can characters like unicron time travel, but there's alternate time lines.

Thus they are using the "time stream" theory. This theory is pretty much synonymous with multiverse theory... [[Special:Contributions/75.84.122.182|75.84.122.182]] 09:33, 22 October 2011 (EDT)