Talk:Lugnut (TF 2010)

2011-04-08T02:36:54Z

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Anyone notice that the purple part of his chest has a face in it?

==Movieverse?==
Is this figure part of the movieverse of the 2010 toyline? The article says nothing about it being a representation of an older character, but sites like Seibertron and YouTuber Peaugh both referred to it as a Generations figure. [[User:Bioniclepluslotr|Bioniclepluslotr]] 18:22, 2 November 2010 (EDT)
:This figure is being released in the 2010 toyline. Many people call any homage figure a "Generations figure", doesn't make it true. Look at the Special Ops Jazz and Turbo Tracks figures. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 18:35, 2 November 2010 (EDT)
::This might be determined if "United" has comics included like Henkei! did. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:38, 2 November 2010 (EDT)
:::Wait, so are the Jazz and Turbo Tracks figures Generations or not? They're part of the 2010 line, but look just like the old characters, and the toy is listed on the old characters' articles. [[User:Bioniclepluslotr|Bioniclepluslotr]] 17:14, 3 November 2010 (EDT)
::::They are not part of Generations, they are part of the 2010 line. They represent the original characters, so they are on those pages. Many people thought they were Generations figures and you still run into that misunderstanding, thus my mentioning them. The 2010 line is very fluid in what characters it represents. And, to go back to your original post, the similarity of this figure to Animated Lugnut is mentioned in the notes section. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 18:37, 3 November 2010 (EDT)
:::::He's featured in the United comic within [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|Generations 2010]] book alongside [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] and [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]]. So I'd say G1. [[User:Poweredconvoy|Poweredconvoy]] 12:10, 11 December 2010 (EST)
::::::Yep, G1. --[[User:Terrortron|Terrortron]] 11:27, 15 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::So he's also in the Battle In Space comic as well, so in both Hasbro and Takara's fiction he's G1. [[User:Poweredconvoy|Poweredconvoy]] 12:22, 15 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::Wait, seriously? Crap, now I have to hunt down that set. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:27, 15 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::::If the United comic is considered G1, would that make the War for Cybertron figures G1 too, since they are featured in it?[[User:Riddlerj|Riddlerj]] 01:22, 22 January 2011 (EST)
::::::::::It would make their toys G1, but not ours. It's [[Robots in Disguise (franchise)|happened before]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:26, 22 January 2011 (EST)
:::::::::::Yeah, sorta like Hasbro's "Universe" Hot Shot is Armada Hot Shot, but Takara's "Henkei" Hot Rod is a new G1 character named Hot Rod. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 01:40, 22 January 2011 (EST)

== Move? ==

Should we move this page to "Lugnut (G1)"? For example, Drift's page isn't "Drift (AHM)". --[[User:Kaymac192|Kaymac192]] 21:18, 10 February 2011 (EST)
:No, we shouldn't. Disambiguation goes by franchise, not continuity family. Lugnut first appeared in the 2010 line, not the Generation 1 franchise. "All Hail Megatron" is a story, not a franchise. Drift debuted in the G1 franchise. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 21:30, 10 February 2011 (EST)

:I'd say yes based on Poweredconvoy's last post. He's in the [[Rodimus vs. Cyclonus]] comic which is a "behind the scenes" of the 86 movie. The 2010 toyline itself has no real fictional precedent --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 21:33, 10 February 2011 (EST)
:: No. [[Cryotek (RID)|Cryotek]] is only in the Wreckers comic book, but his toy is Robots in Disguise. He's at RID because, as NCZ pointed out, we disambiguate by franchise, not fictional appearance. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:36, 10 February 2011 (EST)
:::I agree that this article should stay "(TF 2010)", and I'd like to add that all TF fiction is published under the franchises too. The "Rodimus vs. Cyclonus" comic is just as TF-2010-branded as the Lugnut toy, so either way you go, that's the proper parenthetical.
:::The only way I could see justifying "Lugnut (G1)" would be if he had appeared in actual G1-branded fiction that preceded the toy. For example, if IDW had put Lugnut in [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|their G1 comic]], then later the TF 2010 toy came out, and the toy was clearly meant to represent IDW-Lugnut... THEN I think the parenthetical would need to be "(G1)". But the real situation is very far from that, so the page is solid where it is.
:::'''Edit''': Just found an example: [[Drift (G1)]]. He appeared in IDW's G1-branded comic long before the toy was on the shelves, so G1 is his franchise of origin. If he hadn't existed in the IDW comics, or the toy had come first, he would've been "Drift (Generations)" for the same reason that this page is "Lugnut (TF 2010)".
:::- [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 04:43, 11 February 2011 (EST)

== Wait, this guy's been released? ==

This is news to me, as far as I'm aware there hasn't been a legitimate sighting in the states in a B&M store. [[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 22:54, 11 February 2011 (EST)
:Walky reviewed the one he got on his blog a couple of weeks ago, so it must be out. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:10, 11 February 2011 (EST)
::Because he couldn't have gotten it from eBay or shipped from Asia? [[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 23:18, 11 February 2011 (EST)
:::No, he [http://www.shortpacked.com/2011/blog/the-motherload/ bought it from Big Bad Toy Store]. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:48, 11 February 2011 (EST)

== Fists ==

In the United section of the article, it says that Lugs fists are prone to jamming. Is that to say that the American version suffers the same misfortune?--[[User:Megatron Prime|Megatron Prime]] 21:56, 4 March 2011 (EST)
'''Bold text'''

Lockdown (G1)

2010-11-21T22:55:56Z

76.112.205.7: /* Revenge of the Fallen */ "stongly homages" is an awkward wording

{{disambig3|Lockdown}}
{{faction|decepticon}}
:''Lockdown is a [[Decepticon]] in the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[Image:Drift2-Lockdown.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"'Scuse me, I'm looking for a medic, yea tall, kinda old an' cranky? No? Well, whatever, I'll take the dude with the swords."]]

'''Lockdown''' will pay top dollar to get what he wants... so he can earn an even topper dollar!

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
When the infamous Decepticon [[Drift (G1)|Deadlock]] deserted, [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] called on the bounty hunter Lockdown to find him and return him to the Decepticons. Lockdown, with the help of some slave traders, found Deadlock on an unassuming planet where a mysterious third, neutral faction had been in hiding for eons. {{storylink|Drift issue 2|Drift #2}}

Lockdown explained to Deadlock that even though Deadlock's former boss, [[Turmoil]], wanted Deadlock dead, Megatron felt that Deadlock was too important to his plans to have him be destroyed. The slave traders had other ideas, and noted that there were other Transformer deserters somewhere on the planet, ones who must have partially rebuilt Deadlock. In exchange for helping find Deadlock, they demanded to be led to the hidden Transformers; if not, they would take Deadlock for their own purposes. Lockdown suggested that Deadlock lead the hidden Transformers into an ambush, and that Megatron's faith in Deadlock had best not have been misplaced. However, when they met Deadlock at the arranged site, he had an army of Transformer deserters with him ready for a fight, plus he had been completely rebuilt and renamed "Drift". {{storylink|Drift issue 3|Drift #3}}

{{storylink|Drift issue 4|Drift #4}}
{{charstubfiction}}

==Toys==
===Revenge of the Fallen===
[[Image:ROTF_deluxe_Lockdown.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Oh god, I'd rather be back in those [[Cyber Missions]].]]
* '''Lockdown''' (Deluxe, 2010)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RD-26'''
**''Accessories'': Engine

{{note|This toy was [[repurposing|repurposed]] as [[Generation 1]] Lockdown.}}
:''[[Revenge of the Fallen]]'' [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]]'s design is a strong homage to his [[Lockdown (Animated)|''Transformers Animated'' counterpart]]. Lockdown transforms into an amalgam of a 1980s Corvette and a 1960s Cougar, with lots of spikes and a cow-catcher on his bumper. The toy's [[Mech Alive]] feature rotates cylinders inside his thighs as his lower legs rotate, and pneumatic cylinders extend as his [[Capture Hook]] is deployed.

:Lockdown may have the most articulated neck ever for a Transformer, having three ball joints and a swivel joint. Craziness.

:Similar to his ''Animated'' counterpart, Lockdown's arm-mounted hot rod engine weapon can be removed and can be replaced by ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Deluxe [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]]'s weapon. Likewise, Ratchet can store Lockdown's engine on his roof; it cannot, however, attach to his arm. Interestingly, the plug for Lockdown's engine is the same general shape as the plug for ''Animated'' Lockdown's EMP blaster/engine, but smaller; as such, it isn't compatible with ''Animated'' Lockdown, or with ''Animated'' [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] or [[Ironhide (Animated)|Ironhide]], for that matter.

:This mold was retooled to make [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|2010]] [[Axor]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/2010/Decepticon/Lockdown/lockdown.htm More information on Lockdown at TFU.info]''

==Notes==
* Artist [[Alex Milne]] had originally come up with an original design for Lockdown, but was asked by Hasbro to use the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Lockdown's design instead.<ref>[http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=195127&highlight=#195127 "i did come up with a new design, but was asked by hasbro to use the ROFT design. thats why i used it."]</ref> It was editor [[Denton J. Tipton]] who suggested to writer [[Shane McCarthy]] to bring Lockdown into the Generation 1 universe.<ref>[http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=195247#195247 Denton J. Tipton saying it was totally his idea for Lockdown to be in the Drift book, among other things.]</ref>

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