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		<title>FIRRIB</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;76.20.50.115: If we&amp;#039;re removing crappy punchlines.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{quote|Yes, in AHM Rumble is RED.|[[Joana Lafuente]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://khaamar.deviantart.com/art/All-Hail-Megatron-9-cover-112520321 Joana LaFuente&#039;s response.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;|center=true}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|Okay guys, let&#039;s get this right this time. Rumble is BLUE, Frenzy is RED!|[[Derrick J. Wyatt]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://derrickjwyatt.blogspot.com/2008/12/first-we-crack-shell.html Derrick Wyatt&#039;s opinion]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;|center=true}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|[Frenzy]&#039;s blue because Hasbro said so.|[[Shane McCarthy]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffvrLk_6Seo#t=28s Shane McCarthy&#039;s response during IDW&#039;s panel at San Diego Comic-Con 2008.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;|center=true}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rumble and frenzy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Rumble and Frenzy. Or Frenzy and Rumble. Whatever.]]&lt;br /&gt;
An acronym sometimes bandied about by fans, &#039;&#039;&#039;FIRRIB&#039;&#039;&#039; means &amp;quot;[[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] is red, [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] is blue&amp;quot;. The phrase originated on [[alt.toys.transformers]] circa 1994, essentially as a (largely joking) rallying cry for those who favored [[The Transformers (cartoon)|the original cartoon]] over various other media portrayals of the Transformers. In time, the counterpoint &#039;&#039;&#039;FIBRIR&#039;&#039;&#039; emerged, standing for &amp;quot;Frenzy is blue, Rumble is red&amp;quot;.  The forms RIBFIR and RIRFIB are also known.&lt;br /&gt;
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The debate revolves around the colors of the [[Decepticon]] [[Mini-Cassette]]s, Rumble and Frenzy. It was [[Hasbro]]&#039;s intent that Rumble be black and red, and Frenzy be two shades of blue. These color schemes are used in the toyline, [[Marvel Comics]] and many storybooks and ancillary media from the early years of [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]], and naturally, it was intended for the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|cartoon series]] to render the characters in this manner as well (as proven by the show&#039;s [[production bible]], which identifies Rumble as the &amp;quot;red robot&amp;quot;). However, as a result of some unspecified error somewhere in production, the two robots had their color schemes swapped, leaving the animated incarnation of Rumble blue, and Frenzy red. &lt;br /&gt;
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Due to the widespread recognition the cartoon received, the concept of Rumble as the blue robot was ingrained into the minds of many viewers. As such, years later, [[Fandom|fans]] would argue vehemently (though often tongue-in-cheek) over which coloration was &amp;quot;correct&amp;quot;, based mainly on their personal preference for the cartoon or comic.&lt;br /&gt;
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The FIRRIB movement was codified by a [[MUSH]] user and cartoon fan named Scott Wells in 1994&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_frm/thread/7f7aa2ec041325c4/d066fdb5fb0bdaf9?lnk=gst&amp;amp;amp;q=FIRRIB#d066fdb5fb0bdaf9 ATT FAQ file, 1994]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, who coined the acronym FIRRIB. The FIRRIB idea quickly caught on with other cartoon fans on alt.toys.transformers, frequently appearing in signature files; its counterpoint, the comic- and toy-based FIBRIR, soon appeared as well. After endless discussion threads fueled by little more than personal preference, the subject eventually landed in the group&#039;s FAQ file as a do-not-ask question.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/75181b5ca5175ca3?&amp;amp;amp;q=FIRRIB+FAQ ATT FAQ file, 1998]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Japanese dub of the Generation 1 cartoon rectified the error, making the animation match the toys by simply switching the characters&#039; names around.&lt;br /&gt;
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As later incarnations of the characters draw on both the cartoon and toys as influences, the waters have become muddier still:&lt;br /&gt;
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Items in the following table are listed in release order.  E.g., the original toys came first.&lt;br /&gt;
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{|border=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; cellspacing=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; cellpadding=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;text-align:left&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
!&lt;br /&gt;
!Frenzy&lt;br /&gt;
!Rumble&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
![[The Transformers (toyline)|Original toys]]&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#fff;background:#00f;&amp;quot;| Blue&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#000;background:#f00;&amp;quot;| Red&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
![[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel comics]]&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#fff;background:#00f;&amp;quot;| Blue&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#000;background:#f00;&amp;quot;| Red&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
![[Ladybird Books]]&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#000;background:#fff;&amp;quot;|none&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#000;background:#f00;&amp;quot;|Red&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
![[Kid Stuff]]&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#000;background:#fff;&amp;quot;|none&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#000;background:#f00;&amp;quot;|Red&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
![[The Transformers (cartoon)|US cartoon]]&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#000;background:#f00;&amp;quot;|Red&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#fff;background:#00f;&amp;quot;|Blue&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
![[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (franchise)|Japanese cartoon]]&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#fff;background:#00f;&amp;quot;|Blue&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#000;background:#f00;&amp;quot;|Red&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
![[Dreamwave Generation One continuity|Dreamwave comics]]&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#fff;background:#00f;&amp;quot;|Blue&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#000;background:#f00;&amp;quot;|Red&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
![[G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers continuity|Devil&#039;s Due comics]]&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#000;background:#f00;&amp;quot;|Red&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#fff;background:#00f;&amp;quot;|Blue&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
![[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW comics]]&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#fff;background:#00f;&amp;quot;|Blue&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#000;background:#f00;&amp;quot;|Red&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
![[Alternators]] toys&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#000;background:#fff;&amp;quot;|None&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#000;background:#f00;&amp;quot;|Red&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
![[Diamond Select Toys|Diamond Select]]&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#000;background:#f00;&amp;quot;|Red&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#fff;background:#00f;&amp;quot;|Blue&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
![[Music Label]] earphones&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#fff;background:#00f;&amp;quot;|Blue&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#000;background:#f00;&amp;quot;|Red&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
![[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#000;background:#fff;&amp;quot;|None&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#000;background:#f00;&amp;quot;|Red&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
![[Transformers G1: Awakening|G1: The Awakening]]&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#fff;background:#00f;&amp;quot;|Blue&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:#000;background:#f00;&amp;quot;|Red&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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It is generally agreed that pointing out Rumble was actually kinda purple in the original cartoon is not helpful (particularly since he still has blue in the places where Frenzy has red). Nor is pointing out the fact that for a brief moment in the movie (when Rumble, Frenzy, [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]], and [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] jam [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]]&#039;s transmission) &#039;&#039;both&#039;&#039; of them were red. Or that the Marvel US coloring had Rumble as red &#039;&#039;and blue&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Fandom]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Exhaust weaponry</title>
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&lt;div&gt;Exhaust piping is a means of venting waste heat and gasses from a vehicle. Some Transformers have exhaust piping that doubles as weaponry.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Generation One==&lt;br /&gt;
* The sections of exhaust tubing on [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]]&#039;s forearms act as triple blasters, which he seems to prefer over his photon pistols. As they are powerful enough to take down a shuttle, this is understandable.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Pipes]]&#039;s trademark weapons are his smokestacks.  They&#039;re capable of not just venting normal exhaust, but can also emit corrosive gasses so strong they can completely destroy a two inch thick slab of steel in under ten minutes.  However, even the slightest scratch in his own [[Vacuum_metallizing|corrosion resistant armor]] means his own weapons can just as effectively eat through his own steel skin.&lt;br /&gt;
==Unicron Trilogy==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cybertron===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ransack (Cybertron)|Ransack]]&#039;s engine block can become a dual blaster when powered up with his [[Cyber Key]]. The exhaust pipes flip forward to become the barrels. His callout for this in the Japanese version is, in fact, &amp;quot;Exhaust Shot&amp;quot;. [[Clocker (Cybertron)|Clocker]] has a similar weapon.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Override (Cybertron)|Override]]&#039;s engine block does the same thing. While the Cyber Key is necessary to activate the weaponry on her toy, the cartoon is unclear as to whether the key activates the gun, or just boosts the damage it does.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Crumplezone (Cybertron)|Crumplezone]]&#039;s turbine exhausts flip forward to become his &amp;quot;Barium Bazookas&amp;quot; when he uses his Cyber Key.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Scalpel (ROTF)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;{{faction|decepticonfilm}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Scalpel is the cutest widdle Decepticon from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]] portion of the [[live-action film series]] continuity.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ScalpelCA.jpg|thumb|300px|&#039;&#039;[[&amp;quot;Weird Al&amp;quot; Yankovic|Like a surgeon - HEY! Cuttin&#039; for the very first time...]]&#039;&#039;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The tiny &#039;&#039;&#039;Scalpel&#039;&#039;&#039;, also known as &amp;quot;the &#039;&#039;&#039;Doctor&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;, looks harmless enough with his big, inquisitive eyes. But beware—in the world of the Transformers, things are not what they seem! Scalpel has vast databases of anatomical and mechanical knowledge, being familiar with most species in the galaxy. He&#039;s extremely adept at getting to the root of a problem and can handily disassemble most technological devices... or life-forms. Unfortunately, when he goes to put them back together, he always has a few parts left over. This has left most of the Decepticons reluctant to come to him for care, in spite of his duties as their field medic.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{bigquote|Ve must haff ze brain on ze table! Chop-chop!|Scalpel mutilates for science!|[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor&#039;&#039;: [[John Di Crosta]] (English), [[Naoki Tatsuta]] (Japanese), [[Santiago Ziesmer]] (German),  [[Fabrizio Mazzotta]] (Italian)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ROTFfilm-Scalpelmicroscope.jpg|left|thumb|250px|That&#039;s me, a very expensive microscope just hangin&#039; out in an old warehouse.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Scalpel was transported to the [[Laurentian Abyss]] by [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] and [[Long Haul (ROTF)|four]] [[Mixmaster (ROTF)|of]] [[Rampage (ROTF)|the]] [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicons]]. Once the Decepticons reached the sea floor, Scalpel was released to assess the extent of the damage done to [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]. After a cursory examination, Scalpel concluded that they would need spare parts, and ordered the death of the [[Ze little one|smallest]] Constructicon. Once he had the &amp;quot;donated&amp;quot; parts and the [[AllSpark (Movie)|All Spark]] shard stolen by Ravage, he rebuilt Megatron into a more powerful—and very much alive—form. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ROTF must have brain.jpg|thumb|right|200px|It&#039;s only fair to warn you; I have no idea what I&#039;m doing.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Later, at a factory in the same city as [[Sam Witwicky]]&#039;s university, Megatron ordered Scalpel to examine Sam, in hopes of finding out what he had learned from the All Spark information downloaded into his brain. Using several &#039;&#039;extremely&#039;&#039; invasive techniques, Scalpel deduced that Sam&#039;s mind was definitely full of handy-dandy information. And the best way to get said information was to examine Sam&#039;s brain...while it was laid out on the table. Scalpel&#039;s attempt was interrupted by the timely arrival of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]. &lt;br /&gt;
{{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|Though the movie itself does not show Scalpel&#039;s fate, [[Revenge of the Fallen (novel)|the novel]] and [[Revenge of the Fallen Movie Adaptation issue 2|comic adaptations]] show him being blasted to scrap by Optimus Prime.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Revenge of the Fallen===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RotF Scalpel Scout Toy.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Percep-who? Nah, he got a gig on CSI.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Scalpel&#039;&#039;&#039; (Scout, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Scalpel transforms from a dissecting microscope to a creepy, almost cute insectoid robot with detachable &amp;quot;glasses&amp;quot;. He has six insectoid legs that will pop off if you look at them funny, and two adorable transcluscent &#039;arms&#039;. His microscope mode is slightly different from the one featured in the movie. He is &#039;&#039;seriously&#039;&#039; mis-transformed in-package, presumably because there was no other way he was going to fit on the card otherwise.&lt;br /&gt;
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:A running change has given later versions shorter antennae which fold away better during transformation. It&#039;s not clear which version is more common or whether the running change has spread to markets outside the US.&lt;br /&gt;
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::*&#039;&#039;[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/Scalpel/scalpel.htm More information on Scalpel at TFU.info]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
*The combination of Germanic accent, monocle-like eyes and murderous personality all give Scalpel the air of a Nazi-scientist stereotype, not unlike a [http://reboot.wikia.com/wiki/Herr_Doktor certain other doctor] before him.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the Movie itself and the novelization he is simply called &amp;quot;the Doctor&amp;quot;. He goes unnamed in the comic adaptation.&lt;br /&gt;
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*While his toy is grossly out of scale as a microscope usable by a &#039;&#039;human&#039;&#039; character, it&#039;s perfectly sized for Voyager and Leader class figures to use.&lt;br /&gt;
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*The only reason his toy has pop-off glasses is because [[Hisashi Yuki]] thinks it&#039;s funny.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the [[Revenge of the Fallen issue 2|second issue of the movie adaptation]], Scalpel suddenly has a mouth, complete with teeth. And he looks really weird because of it.&lt;br /&gt;
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*His alternate mode in the movie is &#039;&#039;totally&#039;&#039; different from his toy&#039;s.  While the toy turns into a dissecting microscope, the alternate mode in the film is actually a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lensmeter Lensmeter], a device used by optometrists to check the various aspects of a prescription lens for eyeglasses.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category: Decepticons]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Medics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Revenge of the Fallen characters]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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