Talk:You

2010-11-19T21:44:30Z

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This article is very clever. Kudos, Starfield! --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 10:55, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
:How incredibly stupid not to have thought of this myself! --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:15, 18 May 2010 (EDT) (What T.H. Huxley reference?)
::Thanks! "You" was redlinked on some of the multipath adventure stories, so that's where I got the idea. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:37, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
:::Damn you Starfield, I've been planning this page (by adding the redlinks) for weeks. Now I'm drunk I don't have the wherewithal to augment it, but I will be back. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 18:58, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
I am incredibly amused that You actually have an established faction. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 15:03, 6 July 2010 (EDT)

== Noname? ==

Should this get a noname template? While you may have a name, AFAIK it's never mentioned in any of the books. Also did any of the books with illustrations show the reader character? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:23, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
:[[You]] are illustrated on the cover of [[Island of Fear]]. I can't remember offhand if you're illustrated anywhere else (I've been trying to get my scanner to co-exist with Vista unfruitfully in any case) but a crop of that image could serve as the mainpic. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 18:58, 18 May 2010 (EDT)

:Tough call. You do have a name, so you aren't nameless. The fiction just doesn't ever use your name. I don't think noname is appropriate, exactly. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:43, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
::I don't think that the noname is needed. This use is not really in the spirit of the template.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]]
:::That's logical to me. I also considered putting a "Your name is <entry box>." line on the page, but MediaWiki doesn't let you use form tags on a page. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:53, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Oh, clever. What about displaying the wiki username instead? Something like "You, sometimes known as <<wikiuserid>>, are a human from the ..."--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 21:00, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::That doesn't seem to be possible either (a privacy thing, I imagine!) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:40, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
::::::"You, ________________, are a [[human]] (presumably)..." Alternately, is there some trickery we can use to turn that first "You" into a link to each user's User page? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 12:41, 19 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::::Seems we CAN do that using the following: [[Special:MyPage|You]]. Only drawback is that when hovering over the link to look at the URL/article name, it'll only show the URL/name of the Special:MyPage redirect. Looks like there's an [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UserFunctions extension] which could be installed to add a magic word to show the current username. However, it looks like the reason this type of thing isn't included in the Wiki core is because it would [http://www.mwusers.com/forums/showthread.php?9495-Magic-word-for-username harm the caching ability of the parser] to some extent. I don't know enough about how the Wiki's parser and page caching work to know what the magnitude of the problem would be. The linked post seems to think the whole works would be mucked up.--[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 14:49, 19 May 2010 (EDT)

== Re: "You are never black." ==

You are right! I am never black. How did you know? Sure, it is funny (<small>or something</small>) but it sort of breaks the theme of the article. I'm guessing there has been a black person somewhere who has read one of the multi-path adventure books or joined S.T.A.R.S. and are now reading the wiki and therefore are "you" for the purposes of the article. Maybe that can be moved to the "Notes" section? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 17:05, 21 May 2010 (EDT)
:I would have to question the phrase, as it is only applicable if every single one of these second-person stories contains a picture and/or description of "You" that the designates the racial or ethnic background of the "character" as something other than black. Do they ''all'' have white kids on the cover? What about the S.T.A.R.S. stuff that's included here? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:33, 21 May 2010 (EDT)
::The S.T.A.R.S. stuff was generally addressed to 'you' with no "reader avatar" pictured. [[Have the Decepticons defeated us once and for all?]]/[[Can one boy, alone, hold back the evil Decepticons?]] showed pictures... but of [[Johnny]], a specific boy instead of 'you.'
::IIRC, the US multipath adventures were not told from a human POV, just the UK Young Corgi ones. Those guys, when pictured, did indeed tend to be white... but ''Britain''.
::The [[Iron-on patch]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6Lok9CBfpg commercial] featured "Spike and Friends" which included a black guy. (Notable because the animated teens were grown-up versions of the kids in the commercial-- something no other TF toy commercial ever did AFAIK.) While the Iron-on patch promotion was not '''explicitly''' part of the S.T.A.R.S. promotion, the overall setup-- 3 humans approaching a remote non-Ark Autobot outpost with badges so that the Autobots can identify their allies-- is ''very'' evocative of the S.T.A.R.S. promo stories, particularly [[Can one boy, alone, hold back the evil Decepticons?]], where Johnny, having summoned the Autobots with a report of suspicious activity, waits for an inbound strike force to act as a local guide.
::Between the kids=teens and the general S.T.A.R.S.iness of the whole patch setup, I think those kids, one of whom is black, qualify as a fantasy-roleplay 'you' for the purposes of this article.
::So while you are ''seldom'' black, ''never'' is inaccurate. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:05, 21 May 2010 (EDT)

== Simpsons ==

The Transclownomorphs segment should get a trivia entry, as they refer to you being the human friend of the transforming clowns that morph.

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