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Talk:Transformers Legends (book)

2009-06-05T02:04:40Z

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Transformers Legends also refers to the K*Mart exclusives of Jazz, Grimlock, Bumblebee, and Starscream - effectively their Pretender versions without their shells. - [[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]

So, I just re-read Fires in the Dark, the infamous 'Beast Wars in Amara's past' story.

...and I realised it's explicitly stated that the Natiltec tribe whose site they find somehow
journeyed from one world to another, apparently literally crossing from one continuity to another.

That's cool.-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 06:16, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

:Hmmm. I had taken that as meaning they journeyed from one location on Earth to another, which to them would seem like going to a new world. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 15:37, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Is it worth pointing out that the book is stupidly hard to come by? Only a few places sell it online, and for at least $30. [[Special:Contributions/76.252.7.19|76.252.7.19]] 22:02, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

==Paddles and Geosensus==
I replaced the "Paddles (Story)" link with one going straight to the character page. No need for redundancy. But could someone a little better at this than I am please make a redirect from "Parts" to "Geosensus"? Thanks.--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 19:25, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Transformers Legends (book)

2009-06-05T02:02:48Z

76.252.7.19:

Transformers Legends also refers to the K*Mart exclusives of Jazz, Grimlock, Bumblebee, and Starscream - effectively their Pretender versions without their shells. - [[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]

So, I just re-read Fires in the Dark, the infamous 'Beast Wars in Amara's past' story.

...and I realised it's explicitly stated that the Natiltec tribe whose site they find somehow
journeyed from one world to another, apparently literally crossing from one continuity to another.

That's cool.-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 06:16, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

:Hmmm. I had taken that as meaning they journeyed from one location on Earth to another, which to them would seem like going to a new world. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 15:37, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

==Paddles and Geosensus==
I replaced the "Paddles (Story)" link with one going straight to the character page. No need for redundancy. But could someone a little better at this than I am please make a redirect from "Parts" to "Geosensus"? Thanks.--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 19:25, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Is it worth pointing out that the book is stupidly hard to come by? Only a few places sell it online, and for at least $30. [[Special:Contributions/76.252.7.19|76.252.7.19]] 22:02, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

Talk:For safety reasons

2009-06-05T01:06:04Z

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I think this does indeed have way too much snark. In fact, I would say that it shouldn't have ''any'' snark. Articles like this one could be valuable to have to point people to when the subject comes up, and, in my opinion, would therefore be far better off if made completely straight forward and joke-free. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 00:02, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

:Hrm, i enjoy a '''little''' snark. Maybe jsut in the intro, and gets serious in the sub-sections? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:13, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm not going to say that snark is bad, but yes, this is definitely over the top. A bit of editing all around is in order. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 01:45, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

The people at TFW2005 seem to loathe this wiki, particularly this article:

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=117643

Maybe it should get a snark-reduction to apease the masses? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 01:14, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

If someone wants to edit it down to be less snarky, be my fucking guest, but seriously, if you don;t like it, fucking cowboy up and do the damn thing, instead of just bitching like a goddamn crybaby. (Also, I hate it when people claim it's Walky's wiki or that he runs it or owns it or whatever. I WANT CREDIT FOR MY UNFUNNY CAPTIONS, GODDAMNIT.) [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 03:29, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Can I get rid of that image? I mean, seriously... what the hell? Is ''anyone'' going to miss it? --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 05:18, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

:Go for it. I'm sure a little effort can be made to find something better. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 05:22, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

::I'd just replace it with a pic of G1 Megatron's gun mode, with the caption "No, you CAN'T have one anymore." THat's pretty much what I was gonna do, but couldn't be assed to last night.

Also, HOLY SHIT that page about the choking missile death! Did you read the excerpt from the lawsuit? Part of the case was that the toy was SHAPED LIKE A PENIS, SO CHILDREN WANTED TO PUT IT IN THEIR MOUTHS. Apparently Mattel was trying to eliminate gay children before they were old enough to (not) breed. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 15:43, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

You know, I think this page could probably use some more bullet-pointed paragraphs on individual tests/standards... but I'm too tired to go about majorly reorganizing a page right now. It just strikes me (ha!) that bullet-pointing specific big recurring tests/examples would make things a little... easier on the reading? I dunno. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 06:12, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

==Drop test==
A different explanation for the drop test was given by Hasbro at BotCon 200...whatever. It involves dropping it *in complete packaging*, and seeing how damaged the result is. It's not really a safety thing, I don't think. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:43, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

== Bopper Missiles ==

Drat. I can find a number of decentish photos of these, but the ones that are the clearest are watermarked to hell and back. I did find [http://www.tf-1.com/articles/pretf/joustralig/jdiagiginsert.jpg this] which shows how ridiculous looking they are, but it's a packaging shot so I'm not sure.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 22:48, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

==Stubbimus Prime?==
Oh, I so badly want to see this caption changed to, "Circumcised for your own safety" or something. But I just got back from being ragged at today. Oh, PLEASE. It's SO much better. [[User:Harley Quinn hyenaholic|Harley Quinn hyenaholic]] 11:51, 21 March 2009 (EDT)

=="MEGATRON HOLDS NEIGHBORHOOD IN GRIP OF TERROR"==
http://www.windsorstar.com/hour+standoff+ends+peacefully/1660116/story.html
I suck at doing material work, so I'm just going to direct this to your attention. [[Special:Contributions/76.252.7.19|76.252.7.19]] 21:06, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

Talk:Megatron (G1)

2009-06-05T01:05:22Z

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==Split page?==
So... time to split off Meggy's toy section as we did Optimus? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 09:05, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

:Absolutely. I'd already twice considered bringing the issue up. --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 09:31, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

==Wikipedia Argh==
So, uh, how much of this article is copied from Wikipedia? I am going to cry. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:45, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

:A general rule I use for detecting wikipedia-copied info is when the information is ''deadly serious'' or rather blandly generic, or merely not nerdly enough :D . --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:48, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
::Oh, and when there are little to no links to existing pages on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:49, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

:::So do we carve out the wikipedianess and start over on those parts, or what? I can only imagine G1 Prime is in the same shape... though I haven't looked. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 12:26, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

::::It will be alot of work to write up new parts for those pilfiered articles, but does our wiki intend to be the most informative, or the most fun? Also, long article sections (like stuff stolen from wikipedias) tend to be very boring to read. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:03, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

::I shall leap in here and point out that the guts of the Wikipedia article (and Prime's, too) was written by me. It's evolved somewhat since then, and I don't remember EXACTLY how much of what was mine is here. I didn't copy it over, but I'm just sayin'. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:53, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

:::Uh, actually, looking back over this, only the Marvel Comics and animated series bits were really me... - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:55, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

On the changes - Iacon wasn't levelled in There Shall Come A Leader. It was destroyed by Trannis in ''The Middle Years''. Megatron's intent to turn Cybertron into a warworld is referenced on page three of the first issue. And... where do we get that the war only lasted a hundred years before the Ark launch? [http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/Annual86_Megatron.jpg This profile] from the '86 annual says a thousand. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 04:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
:"As you know, Megatron disappeared after a hundred or so years of war, and was presumed dead." --Xaaron, {{storylink|Legion of the Lost!, Part 1}} I'll fix the Iacon thing, if it isn't already. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:36, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

===Masterpiece Megatron===
The toy sections shouldn't read like reviews, man. Put that sort of thing on your blog, not on the wiki. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:54, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

===Alignment===
Is alignment in-continuity ENOUGH to merit mention? (The e-hobby Magnus stuff seems to tell 'some version' of alignment's events, I'd consider it AS in-continuity as the Last Days of Optimus Prime, whichw as later mentioned.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 05:05, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

I would say neither should be in there. Not endorsed by Hasbro and/or Takara? Not canon. - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]]

I think they can be mentioned as long as they are stated as being pseudo-canonical. I certainly think that both of those stories deserve their own articles, for example. "Fanfic" written by Simon Furman is a little different than regular run of the mill fanfic. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 20:38, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Alignment was mentioned in detail in the Ultimate Guide, so one could say it's retroactively canon. Not that I welcome it all that warmly, but... --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:51, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

===Galvatron===
In answer to Sipher's question he posed as a comment to his edit, no, I don't think Galvatron should be here. Whether they're the same character or not, Galvatron shows up plenty enough as his own character from the future (and tends to fight/team up/interact with Megatron) to warrant his own entry. Otherwise, a combined Megatron/Galvatron entry is just going to be way too long and confusing as hell. (And, yeah, I am factoring in that Galvatron II will prolly already get his own entry.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:47, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

:Probably a good idea. While some characters (Smokescreen/Hoise, Bumblebee/Goldbug) get upgraded/renamed and basicalyl continue in a straight line, Galvatron time-jumps and even fights himself. In MANY continuities, Megatron doesnt' even BECOME Galvatron. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:26, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

::Right. Galvatron's riding the fence between Hot Rod/Rodimus, Bumblebee/Goldbug and Dead Guy/Cyclonus, Waspinator/Thrust. Often enough he has no real connection to Megatron at all. And he's appeared enough to fight "himself" or on his own Galvatron-specific terms that it pushes it over the edge to Needs Own Page, in my opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:30, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

===Super Megatron===
http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/images~~othergallery~~concept~~generation~~manga-supermegatron.jpg.galleryimage254ba6a.php
I wish this immage wasn't watermarked. [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 19:24, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
:Photoshop.
:Anyway, it's blurry t'wards the bottom... is this from Gneerations 2? -[[User:207.224.83.190|207.224.83.190]] 03:36, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

:::I have a perfectly good picture of Ultra Megatron. I just have nowhere to ''put'' it on his page. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 03:58, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

=== Category: Convention exclusives? ===

Was there really a Megatron toy that was a convention exclusive? This isn't mentioned in the sections for ''any'' of the toys. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 19:04, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:Yes. The original Megatron reissue was redecoed into the black Microchange colors as a BotCon Japan '01 exclusive. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 21:07, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::According to [http://mykooltoyz.tripod.com/blackmegatron.html this], Black Megatron was only available for preorder at BotCon 2000. He was released from eHobby the following year. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:45, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

::Uh... Not only was there no BotCon Japan 2001, there was no TF-released black Microchange Megatron. There WAS a "black" version gunmetal chrome and red interior bits (where the Microchange was solid black platics with blue interior bits), but it sure as hell wasn't a BCJ exclusive. Moderately sure that was e-hobby or maybe Toys Dream Project or some one-off. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:48, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Choro Q G2 Megatron? I dunno. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 00:32, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

:Hm. That's more merchandise than anything else, but it IS a convention-exclusive piece. Could go either way. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 01:36, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

== Alternators Megatron ==

Wasn't there meant to be a Cadillac Alternators Megatron in the pipeline? Well it's almost certainly been cancelled now, but it still warrants a tiny mention on this page. IMO.

==Space pic==
Couldn't fit this pic in anywhere, and I replaced it with a toy pic anyway. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:57, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
[[Image:Megatronam.jpg|thumb|right|Aww, that's almost adorable]]
[[Image:MegatronG2-1.jpg|thumb|left|100px|]]

== Titanium Megs ==

''>The Titanium Megatron toy was inspired by Dreamwave's first G.I. Joe crossover set in World War II.

When was this established? Absent evidence ot the contrary, I assumed he belonged to Divided Front continuity. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:24, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

== Megatron: Origin ==

I'm looking at the issue, and I can't see if it's been confirmed yet that Soundwave's employer is Senator Ratbat. It's ''likely'', but seemingly not confirmed in this issue.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 21:14, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

:Let's say it's ''extreamly'' likely, as it's just about as strongly implied by the narrative (and by narrative convention) as possible without someone going "Psst, hey kid..." from behind the curtain. I mean we have a clearly manipulative, selfserving Ratbat talking to his off-panel underling who speaks in Soundwave-style about technological advances and about manipulating Megatron, and then later you have Soundwave showing up and "manipulating" Megatron while talking about the offpannel Master who sent him. Pretty definative case narratively speaking. If it's somehow improbably wrong we can change it later (and I'll eat this wiki). ;) --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 07:57, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::Oh, I agree that it's probably the case, just that since we're only citing issue 2 it's not quite covered.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 14:55, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

==Lines==
Steve-o removed all the "ugly lines" that were marking off various fictional super-sections for clarity. Sipher, I know you were working on a fix for this, which involved making the differences between the header sizes more obvious. Is this finished? Can we implement it please? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:43, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

:In re-examining the previous version of the page now that I know Walky liked the lines and thought they clarified things, I still believe they were ugly and didn't really help to make the sections more distinct. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 18:47, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

== Megatron/Majin Zarak ==

Explain to me again why we need to start up a big talkpage debate to overrule the fanboy ramblings of a single user?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 03:06, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
:That depends, which fanboy user are you referring to? I count three involved at this point. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:13, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
::Ah, didn't see you'd joined in. Mostly saw PPrime going off on another of his rants.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 03:16, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

==MEGATRON HOLDS NEIGHBORHOOD IN GRIP OF TERROR==
http://www.windsorstar.com/hour+standoff+ends+peacefully/1660116/story.html
I'm terrible at crafting wiki-appropriate stuff, so I just want to bring this to your attention. [[Special:Contributions/76.252.7.19|76.252.7.19]] 21:05, 4 June 2009 (EDT)