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Talk:Predacon (Prime)

2012-10-11T23:53:29Z

76.28.76.206: New page: == Kreon Predacons? == We count Kreons as their own continuity. But I really feel like the Kreon Predacons are meant to flesh out the Pred numbers. I suppose they don't go here unless t...

== Kreon Predacons? ==

We count Kreons as their own continuity. But I really feel like the Kreon Predacons are meant to flesh out the Pred numbers. I suppose they don't go here unless they're in aligned? Or can we put all Preds with this faction symbol on the same page, like the Wreckers are. Thoughts?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 19:53, 11 October 2012 (EDT)

Predacon (Prime)

2012-10-11T23:25:02Z

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{{disambig3|Predacon}}
:''The Predacons are an ancient Cybertronian race from the [[Aligned continuity family]].

The '''Predacons''' are a faction of ancient Cybertronians led by [[Predaking (Prime)|Predaking]].

==Toys==
===Beast Hunters===
*'''Predaking''' (Cyberverse Commander, 2013)

*'''Predaking''' (Voyager Class, 2013)

*'''Predaking''' (unknown larger size, 2013)

*'''Twinstrike''' (Cyberverse Legion, 2013)

*'''Laserback''' (Deluxe, 2013)
{{comingsoontoy}}

{{stub}}

[[Category:Prime]]
[[Category:Factions]]

Talk:Decepticon Miner

2012-10-09T02:27:26Z

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I'm fairly certain miners had shown up in previous episodes during mining scenes. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:18, 14 August 2011 (EDT)

== Size? ==

Are all miners half-size like the ones in the recent episode? Those tiny ones were miners right? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 22:27, 8 October 2012 (EDT)

Scrash (G1)

2012-10-04T15:41:30Z

76.28.76.206:

{{Factions|decepticon}}
{{disambig2|the Führer from ''Operation Combination''|the Air General from ''Animated''|Scrash (Animated)}}
:''Scrash is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Operation Combination (franchise)|Operation Combination]] portion of the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
[[Image:UnitedEX scrash.jpg|right|thumb|250px]]
The mysterious Decepticon Führer<ref>"Sōtō", Scrash's title, can variously be translated as "supreme ruler", "president", "führer" or "generalissimo".</ref> '''Scrash''' (総統スクラッシュ ''Sōtō Sukurasshu'') commands the Decepticon forces from afar as they try to plunder the [[Earth]] of its energy. His troops consist of the mighty [[Battle Gaia]], the [[Jet Corps]] and [[Master Chaos]]. He apparently turns into a large jet.<ref>Takara's TF Telephone audio adventures</ref>

==Fiction==
===Japanese cartoon continuity===
====''Operation Combination'' story pages====
Commanding the Decepticons from a distance, Scrash ordered [[Battle Gaia]] and the [[Jet Corps]] to attack the [[Earth]] and plunder it of energy. The Decepticons only made it as far as Earth's orbit, where they were defeated by the [[Autobot Scrum Combination]]. Scrash did not actually participate in the battle at all, which in hindsight, might have helped its outcome a little. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Operation Combination (story page)|Conclusion}}

Later, alongside [[Flashwing]], [[Deathplay]], [[Darkfly]] and [[Sharpedge]], Scrash made another bid to conquer Earth, this time joining in on the battle in his massive jet mode. Unfortunately for him and his minions, he was defeated by the new Autobots defending Earth, but primarily [[Sixbuilder]], and never heard from again. {{storylink|Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)/src#After 2025|Kiss Players timeline}}

====''United EX''====

At the same time as he was directing Battle Gaia and the Jet Corps, Scrash was also overseeing the Decepticons' new "[[Master Chaos]]" sub-group in attempts to steal the new [[Power Core Combination]] technology that the Autobots had developed alongside [[human]]kind. When [[Onslaught (G1)|Combatmaster]] succeeded in purloining a set of drones intended for [[Blaze Master|Choppermaster]], he reported his success to Scrash, who then instructed him to release Battle Gaia in order to create a distraction that would allow them to continue their thefts. {{storylink|Prelude to the Siege}}

==Toys==
No toy of Scrash was ever released, and he did not actually ''appear'' in any ''Operation Combination'' fiction, being mentioned only in its background material. Use of the [[Turbomaster]]s and [[Predator (subgroup)|Predators]] in the ''Operation Combination'' toyline, coupled with the fact that he turns into a large jet, led fans to conjecture that Scrash would have been the Japanese version of the toy known in Hasrbo markets as [[Skyquake (G1)|Skyquake]]; the fact that in some European markets Skyquake was sold under the name '''Crash''' seems to support this. Skyquake was also released in Japan in the European packaging, with only some legal information on the back changed to Japanese, which seems to bear the idea out further. ''[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II]]'' went along with this theory by showing an ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' character called "Air General Scrash" who looks very much like Skyquake. Then, finally, the fiction produced for the ''[[Transformers United EX]]'' toyline at long last showed Scrash, and did indeed base him on Skyquake.

==References==
<references />

[[Category:Decepticon leaders]]
[[Category:Operation Combination Decepticons]]

Talk:Bumblebee (G2)

2012-10-03T21:45:25Z

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I'm not objecting to giving the clones their own pages, but I'm not in love with removing the toys from the original characters' pages. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:31, 3 October 2012 (EDT)
:Ditto. Last I checked GoBots Bumblebee's bio made no mention of him being a clone, or a villain. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:33, 3 October 2012 (EDT)
::The clones aren't villains. They're pretty nice guys. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:37, 3 October 2012 (EDT)
:::I feel like the toys should be considered repurposings, because there's no way that they were intended to be anything but the characters they were named. SG Camshaft is considered a repurposing, for example, and his toy remains on his G1 page. [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] 15:16, 3 October 2012 (EDT)
::::Some of the Go-Bots may be ambiguous enough to retcon that they were clones, but Bumblebee became easier for the Decepticons to track because of his Go-Bot form's increased size and altered design structure. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:55, 3 October 2012 (EDT)
:Yeah, no. I object to removing the G2 Go-Bots toys from the original characters' pages. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:29, 3 October 2012 (EDT)

Yeah. These are DEFINATELY repurposings. So they should remain on the original pages and here.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 17:45, 3 October 2012 (EDT)

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2012-10-02T20:03:16Z

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==Adding to the Armada cartoon article==

Hello! New guy around here! I would like to add information about Home Video releases of Transformers Armada to its article. As I have no authorization to add to it, here is the information I can provide:

- Home Video Release in Bulgaria:
In Bulgaria "IP Video" released the complete series, spread across 15 volumes, as well as a "Best of" DVD. The DVDs were also distributed with a weekly newspaper upon their intial release. Volumes 1-8 contain 3 episodes each, with volumes 9-15 and the "Best of" DVD containing 4 episodes each.

Transformers: Armada vol.1 - First Encounter
Transformers: Armada vol.2 - Soldier
Transformers: Armada vol.3 - Palace
Transformers: Armada vol.4 - Ruins
Transformers: Armada vol.5 - Swoop
Transformers: Armada vol.6 - Conspiracy
Transformers: Armada vol.7 - Decisive Battle
Transformers: Armada vol.8 - Chase
Transformers: Armada vol.9 - Detection
Transformers: Armada vol.10 - Runaway
Transformers: Armada vol.11 - Rescue
Transformers: Armada vol.12 - Crisis
Transformers: Armada vol.13 - Uprising (The Unicron Battles - part 1)
Transformers: Armada vol.14 - Dash (The Unicron Battles - part 2)
Transformers: Armada vol.15 - Union (The Unicron Battles - part 3)

== TF:Prime jump-fight factoid ==

I've just started to watch Prime, and so far every episode I've seen has had someone do a dramatic jump slowed down jump before landing on someone they are fighting, (and sometimes the camera). It's quirky enough that it's stood out, and I was wondering if it's worth adding to the episode guides? I just wanted to know now because I'm going to be watching the whole of season one over the next few days, and it's easier if I know now than if it's added later. Failing that, is there anything else that people desperatly want added to the Prime episode guides that I should be looking out for? [[User:LiamK|LiamK]] 17:31, 23 January 2012 (EST)
:There is a certain level of ridiculous info you can get away with adding if you're a regular contributor doing serious and consistent work on the pages, and you handle it with sufficient comedic value. Ref: [[Enter the Nightbird|Brawn vs. Soundwave]], [[Countdown to Extinction (episode)|What Makes Starscream the Leader?]], etc. This could conceivably qualify as well, but approach with caution. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 21:22, 23 January 2012 (EST)
::Fair enough. It wasn't just going to be an adding silly jokes because oh ha ha I think I'm hilarious. I was going to add anything missing to the relevent pages as well. It's just that 5 episodes in, we've had at least 4 dramatic jumps into the camera, one dramatic jump away from the camera, and several semi-dramatic jumps off to the side. It's hilarious when characters like Bulkhead are apparently able to jump 500 feet into the air. If Springer ever shows up in this continuity family, he's gonna reach orbit.[[User:LiamK|LiamK]] 19:59, 25 January 2012 (EST)

== Expandible voice actor lists ==

There's been some noise about some of the voice actor lists getting too long and the need for a way to have them hidden unless the user expands them. I've done some test code which is [http://www.aldenbates.com/vatest.html currently hosted externally] but is easily converted into something that will work on the wiki. Currently tested on Firefox 9 and 10, Internet Explorer 6 and 8, Chrome 16, and Opera 11. Feedback, anyone? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:41, 31 January 2012 (EST)
:Although I was expecting a show/hide like how Wikipedia does its navigation templates, I don't mind this. Still needs a "hide" option, if that's possible. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:46, 31 January 2012 (EST)
::I've added in a hide option. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:21, 1 February 2012 (EST)
:::If you set up a <nowiki>{{voiceactors}}</nowiki> template it'd be easy to hide the 'extended' cast names and have them show up automatically if you mouse over. '''<tt><nowiki>{{voiceactors|DEFAULT-TO-VISIBLE|DEFAULT-TO-INVISIBLE}}</nowiki></tt>'''
:::It wouldn't even require Javascript, it could be pure CSS. Simpler is better, IMO. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:26, 1 February 2012 (EST)
::::I kinda dislike the idea of it opening on mouse-over, because it can have unexpected effects on the layout of the rest of the page if you're not paying attention to where you're moving your mouse pointer. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:32, 7 February 2012 (EST)
:::::I dislike mouse-over anything. Hide/show is a better interface. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:48, 7 February 2012 (EST)
::::::Add a third dislike vote for mouse-over. If we do this which (if any) voice actors should be visible without clicking? Only the primary English performer? All English performers? All English and Japanese? None? I vote for none. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 19:40, 7 February 2012 (EST)
:::::::I vote for whatever hides the German voice actors. I'd put the English and Japanese actors on a higher tier of importance, but I'm not opposed to hiding them. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 19:48, 7 February 2012 (EST)
:::::::I think English and Japanese should always be shown, as they are the two biggest uh... markets? Whatever. Hide everything else, and DEFINITELY make the reveal a deliberate CLICK, not a mouseover. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:56, 7 February 2012 (EST)
Can we have this template now? I think everybody agrees that the extraneous VAs should be hidden. If people want to hide English and Japanese VAs, then that can be further discussed. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 10:48, 14 February 2012 (EST)

:[[Template:va]] (Should it be vas?)
:CSS entties which need to be added to the master file are as follows:
.tt1-voiceactorlist .tt1-extraneousFuckers{
display:none;
}
.tt1-voiceactorlist:hover .tt1-extraneousFuckers{
display:inline;
font-size:smaller;
}
.tt1-voiceactorlist.tt1-more:after{
content: "more";
padding-left:.5em;
font-size:smaller;
color:#999999;
}
.tt1-voiceactorlist:hover.tt1-more:after{
content: none;
}

:Styles are visible now if you've got [[User:Derik/kired tools|Kired Tools]] installed. Alternately you can paste the above into [[Special:Mypage/monacobook.css|your css file]] to get a look at it in action.

:If you want to make it Javascript that's beyond my remit, talk to one of the tech-guys. (Also I think it's a bad idea, but I'm against modifying the DOP for presentational purposes when there's already a markup language intended to control presentation: CSS. The wiki is currently Javascript 'light', I prefer to keep it that way.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:21, 14 February 2012 (EST)
::Why does it say "hiding the non English/Japanese voiceactors unless the user chooses to mouse over the list", I thought we had decided to make it use a click? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:19, 14 February 2012 (EST)
::# I don't have the authority or access to implement that.
::# I think it's a terrible idea.
:::By all means, feel free to install the CSS styles (some CSS styles will be required regardless) and see what you think of this implementation.
:::The underlying HTML will be the same for a Javascript implementation anyway. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:13, 14 February 2012 (EST)
So, er, did we come to a decision on either of these methods? I have to admit I kinda forgot about it until now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:13, 5 March 2012 (EST)
:I think consensus is to use clicks, not mouse-over, despite Derik's protests. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 04:13, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

== Facebook chat ==

Did the wiki have anyone at the TF Prime Facebook chat? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:38, 6 February 2012 (EST)

==Moving (Prime)/(WFC)/(RB)/(FOC) to (Aligned)==
Considering that characters are part of the Aligned continuity family, like how [[Megatron (Animated)]] belong to the Animated continuity family and [[Megatron (G1)]] belongs to the Generation 1 continuity family.
:No, that's not how we do things. Disambiguations are made by franchise of origin, hence why it's [[Megatron (G1)]], but [[Terrorsaur (BW)]] rather than Terrorsaur (G1), or why it's [[Ironhide (Energon)]] rather than Ironhide (UT). This has been discussed ad infinitum but the consensus remains the same. The only exception has been that characters who debuted in WFC but also appear in Prime get (Prime) because of the slight iffyness of the Aligned family. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 10:26, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
::(Edit conflict'd by Detour) I don't think we have an especially good, logical reason for why we do that with Aligned characters, other than that it simply feels very "wrong" to label a character with a prominent, regular fictional appearance in the ''Prime'' cartoon with a disambig based on their cameo appearance in a video game tie-in novel. Honestly, given that odd nature of the whole "Aligned" idea and the fact we're already breaking our standard with this continuity family's characters ''anyway'', I'm not entirely opposed to just using (Aligned) as a much handier, self-explanatory disambig, but I don't know if anyone would agree. It ''would'' feel odd, for instance, to label the Rescue Bots with that tag. And Bot Shots are a tremendous pain in the arse - it's so annoying when we have to create articles for Aligned Roadbuster and Topspin and whoever when the Bot Shots are just clearly the movieverse characters. The whole Aligned thing can sometimes be a real wiki-headache. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:32, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
:::Why DON'T they just get inserted into the Movie characters sections, then? [This thing applies to a lot of Hasbro's "fuzzier" lines of late, really - stuff's matched up with what other characters in the line are part of rather than just including them in an existing article for the version they're designed after]. - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 10:41, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
::::I think treating Bot Shots as part of Aligned is somewhat dubious. Is there a reason it can't be viewed as using characters from multiple continuity families? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 11:00, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
:::::We already discussed this [[Talk:Bot Shots|here]]. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:59, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
::::::We do that so we don't have to pick nits over where the characters belong. Bot Shots Optimus Prime could fit many of his various incarnations. I disagree with renaming them to (Aligned), somewhat because all of the (WFC) guys will eventually be moved to (Prime), anyway. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 05:48, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
But should (Prime)/(WFC)/(RB)/(FOC) be renamed (Aligned) or not?--[[User:Finister2|Finister2]] 05:43, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
:No. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 11:29, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
::Why?--[[User:Finister2|Finister2]] 13:55, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
:::It's already been explained why. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:40, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

== Universal, properly-translated names of the Japanese Beast Wars/Beast Machines episodes ==

Okay, this has been bothering me for a while. On each page of the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)#Episodes|Beast Wars]] and [[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)#Episodes|Beast Machines]] episode, the Japanese title of each episode is given an English translation in each page's Foreign Localization section. And on the [[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Geneon]] page, under the sections of its Beast Wars, Beast Wars Metals, and Beast wars Returns releases, the Japanese episode titles are also translated into English. What's bothering me is that certain episodes are given slightly differently-translated English names when comparing those given on the actual episode pages to those given on the Geneon page. Here's a list of each differing episode title. The episode page names are on the left, and the Geneon page names are on the right:
:"The Solitary Warrior Tigatron" vs. "Lonely Warrior Tigatron"
:"Goodbye, Rattle!?" vs. "Goodbye Rattle!?"
:"The Falcon Warrior Airrazor" vs. "Falcon Warrior Airazor"
:"Floating Island Death Match Part 1" vs. "Floating Island Deathmatch Part 1"
:"Floating Island Death Match Part 2" vs. "Floating Island Deathmatch Part 2"
:"The Destrons' Dramatic Finish" vs. "The Destrons Make Drama"
:"Two Dinobots?" vs. "There are 2 Dinobots?"
:"The Ant Warrior from Hell, Inferno" vs. "Inferno, the Ant Warrior from Hell"
:"Revive, Beast Power!" vs. "Resurrected Beast Power"
:"The Immortal Starscream" vs. "Starscream's Invulnerability"
:"Fare Thee Well, Tigatron" vs. "Farewell Tigatron"
:"The Great King of Terror Arrives!" vs. "The King of Terror Arrives!"
:"You're Under Arrest, Meow" vs. "Meyow're Under Arrest"
:"Gro~w Bigger" vs. "Groooww Bigger"
:"I Am Resurrected, Dā" vs. "I am Resurrected!"
:"Blaze, Dragon" vs. "Blazing Dragon"
:"I Hath Returned" vs. "We Have Returned"
:"Resurrection of the Legend" vs. "Rebirth of the Legend"
:"The Dearly Wished Transformation" vs. "The Transformation of a Dear Wish"
:"The Memory of a Friend" vs. "Memory of a Friend"
:"Mission of the Stars" vs. "Message of the Stars"
:"The Moment of Truth" vs. "The End"
:"Captured Souls" vs. "Capture of the Spirits"
:"The Hellish All-out Attack" vs. "The General Offensive of Hell"
:"The Course of the Future" vs. "The Fate of the Future"
Could someone who's more adept at Japanese please clarify which titles should be universally used on this Wiki, and help in an attempt to create a greater sense of unity between the individual episode pages and the Geneon page (and with any other such pages on this Wiki as well)? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 01:29, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
:The titles on the episode pages are more refined. Not to mention it would be easier to change the titles on a single page. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 05:58, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
::"I Hath Returned"? That's incorrect English. "Hath" was third person singular, not first person ("he hath" not "I hath"). --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:10, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
:::[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] translated that. I recall the intention was to capture the old-timey connotation of the original Japanese. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 08:21, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
:Something else that has me pondering are the specific choices made in spelling and grammar of a few of these titles. Like, the inclusion of a "The" where it may not need be (like in "The Solitary Warrior Tigatron" instead of just "Solitary Warrior Tigatron", or "The Falcon Warrior Airrazor" vs. "Falcon Warrior Airazor") or the use a comma (like in "Goodbye, Rattle!?" as opposed to "Goodbye Rattle!?") or a space between two words instead of making them a compound word ("Death Match" vs. "Deathmatch"), and the synonymous use of "Resurrect(ion)", "Rebirth", and "Revive". In these cases, are the titles on the episode pages truly the more precise titles, or could they also use some amending? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 11:20, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
::Most of those details are up to the translator's discretion. But, like I said, it's easier to just edit the Genon page rather than across multiple articles. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 11:33, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

== Category:Deceased ==
Sub-categories
*Category:Deceased (Generation 1 cartoon)
**Category:Deceased (Marvel comics)
**Category:Deceased (BW)
*Category:Deceased (Armada)
*Category:Deceased (Energon)
*Category:Deceased (Movie)
**Category:Deceased (ROTF)
**Category:Deceased (DOTM)
*Category:Deceased (SG)
*Category:Deceased (Animated)
*Category:Deceased (Aligned)

Why not?--[[User:Finister2|Finister2]] 05:52, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

:"Deceased" is a stupid idea on a wiki that focuses on fiction with multiple continuities, time periods, vague "deaths", and resurrections. All characters will inevitably die at one point. This is not a warranted category. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 05:55, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

::Vote for "No".
::A character may get killed in a sub-continuity but alive in another. Not to mention if the character will be resurrected or not. (So, we don't need Category:Resurrected characters, either.) --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 10:11, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
:::It is an appealing idea, to have categories for characters that are deceased "now." If they are patched up, they get removed from the category. I would have changed the categories to "Deceased (Movieverse)" and "Deceased (UT cartoon)" since they are supposed to be all one continuity. The only problem I see is vague deaths and continuity inconsistencies. People would probably disagree with me that [[Brawn (G1)]] obviously survived that shot to the shoulder. So, unfortunately, I can't fully endorse the idea. - [[User:Starfield|Starﬁeld]] 11:08, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
::::If we go by continuity, we are going to have a ''lot'' of "Deceased" categories. And you could only do it by continuity, which goes against our current methods to have categories by franchise. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:46, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
::I agree with you guys in regards to characters. but, what about a category for ''real'' people who have been involved with the Transformers franchise (like voice actors, designers, writers, etc.) who are deceased? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 11:11, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

== Scheduled downtime. ==

Our hoster is moving servers around tomorrow. One of ours is gonna be moved starting between "Thu Apr 12 23:00:00 UTC 2012 and Fri Apr 13 05:00:00 UTC 2012." So that'll happen. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:52, 11 April 2012 (EDT)
:I presume all the necessary backups have been made? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 22:37, 11 April 2012 (EDT)
::Regularly, like clockwork. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:51, 12 April 2012 (EDT)

==Category: Cats==
Presumably we have some kind of unwritten "We don't categorise by altmode" rule in play here, so I apologise if my adding a bunch of characters to this category seemed heavy-handed but in my defence the distinction between ''Shattered Glass'' Steeljaw and G1 Ravage is, eh, pretty much non-existent, Cheetor himself says "I'm a cat", it's a subset of Characters by species and we have K-9 under Dogs, so it's hardly black and white. But my main reason for doing it was that in SEO terms, having the word "Cats" repeatedly linked a bunch of times throughout the wiki is really quite useful, as in the wider internet cats are kind of a big deal. Real effing kitten calendars and all that. Isn't that something to consider? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 03:47, 26 April 2012 (EDT)
:Categorizing by alternate mode has been brought up several times, but nobody has bothered to hammer out the details and do it. I don't particularly care for it one way or another, but putting Transformers in plain categories like "Cats" and "Watercraft" based on alternate mode makes them useless to those who only want to know about actual cats or watercraft in ''Transformers''. That said, I completely fail to see the relevance of Internet memes to our categorization system. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 03:59, 26 April 2012 (EDT)
::Well, just that keywords are good for search engines, keywords that link to relevant pages even better and lots of people search for cats on the internet. I know that my girlfriend does and at a time like this (when my birthday is coming up) it's not impossible that she might search for "Transformers cats". If that led her to, say, SG Ravage's page (which is quite accessible to an internet-savvy non-fan with its twitter references and Walky's cartoons) then she may well stick around to find out more, and maybe look for more Transformers cats through the category links at the bottom of the page. At the moment our first link in a Google search is Snow Cat, who's kinda cool but you'd probably have to be a GI Joe fan to really get it. I dunno, I'm just spitballing here, but part of my job is SEO so I hope I at least know something like what I'm talking about. Anyway, that was my line of thinking. If it's problematic then that's fine, but I'm not really convinced by the "people looking for actual cats or watercraft in ''Transformers''" argument either - on a TF wiki I think they'd assume Transformers that turn into either of those things would be included by default. They are robots in disguise, after all. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 14:36, 26 April 2012 (EDT)

== Google + ==
I've made a Google + for the wiki. I just need someone to link it to the main page because I don't know how. This is the link: https://plus.google.com/106006102124340784739 -- [[User:Spydersix|Spydersix]] 19:00, 30 April 2012 (EDT)

== Alt-mode listings ==

I've seen several things here discussing listing alt-modes by ''category'', but I'm looking for something a bit less complicated. I would really appreciate having each character's page at least openly list their alt-mode in the beginning; as it stands, some pages do not make it clear what that character turns into, generally only mentioning it in passing or in screenshots. I think some kind of fill-in-the-blanks template would work well, the kind they use on Wikipedia for comic book superheroes that have sections for code names, secret identities, a brief list of abilities, etc. It doesn't even have to be that thorough, just a small piece under the page's main picture that has "name, alt-mode, faction" would be a nice change of pace. [[User:Deusoma|Deusoma]] 15:15, 2 May 2012 (EDT)
:Your idea is impractical because many characters have had numerous altmodes. Listing all of them would be ridiculously long while trying to generalize them down to a single listing would be useless. For example, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. The casual fan might assume that you could just list his altmode as "semi truck" and be done with it. But he has also been a bat, a Lambourghini Diablo and a shoe. And that doesn't even get into what kind of "semi truck" he is: cab over engine like the original or long nose like the Generation 2 version. And does it have a sleeper. With or without trailer. And you still haven't covered his non-Earth modes. None of the Cybertronian forms we have seen looks anything like any of the others. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:29, 2 May 2012 (EDT)
::I don't care one way or the other, but we could hide the minor alternate modes, the same as we do with voice actors. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:40, 2 May 2012 (EDT)
:While I agree that we should do our best to list alt-modes, at the beginning of the article doesn't seem like the most efficient place to do it. Rather, we should continue listing the alt-mode in the description of the various toys and work on filling in those that are lacking. - [[User:Shellspark|Shellspark]] 16:26, 2 May 2012 (EDT)
: Well, there are a lot of fiction-only altmodes going on. I could see this working as a Notes subsection, possibly as a gallery. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 17:27, 2 May 2012 (EDT)
:: Yeah, that's why I always attempt to get an image of each altmode in the fiction section as they appear. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:56, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

==Redundant foreign names==
According to Interrobang:
:"''So? It's been the standard for a long time and exactly how do you expect readers to know that Japan uses the same name without noting it?''"
1) No, it has NOT been "the standard for a long time". In fact, we didn't do this for YEARS. You're the one who seems to have decided, fairly recently, to pull this crap. Like with "mammoth". 
2) Well. Why don't we just list every country in the world that also uses that name? After all, how exactly are we to know if the Canadians don't not call her Airachnid, or the Germans, or the Zimbabweans (holy shit "Zimbabweans" is ''correct''?), or the other 190-odd nations across the globe? Oh wait, because we can use some incredibly base deductive reasoning and assume that unless a ''different'' name is listed for a country, ''it's the same name and we don't need to fucking list it there just so you can get a katakana-boner''. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 06:45, 3 May 2012 (EDT)
:There is the argument to be made that not including a foreign name leaves the reader unable to know if the character either has the same name in that country, or if that information is just ''missing'' from the article. Not that I disagree that it ''really'' seems to have got out of control, to the point that the Japanese words for "doctor" or "scientist" or "coach" or "mammoth" are being added to nameless characters' articles. I enjoyed our older attitude that basically amounted to "fuck katanana unless necessary to explain something". - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 07:05, 3 May 2012 (EDT)
::The counter-argument was already made above. ''Transformers'' is a global brand now, and it's basically a waste of space to list every country where Optimus Prime is called "Optimus Prime" (or as close as they can get phonetically), and better to assume that it is "Optimus Prime" unless otherwise noted. The ''probability'' that the name is the same is pretty damn good nowadays, especially in Japan. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 07:34, 3 May 2012 (EDT)
:::I'm sympathetic. If somebody actually does go through the trouble to track down what Airachnid is called in Zimbabwean and it ends up being "Airachnid" then if they put the information down, then nobody else will have to go through the trouble of looking it up. What if redundant foreign names are left <nowiki></nowiki> - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:04, 3 May 2012 (EDT)
::::I hate seeing redundant names, but I agree that a certain degree of "is this already known?" may exist in a vacuum. I'm not opposed to leaving them in the code but commented out to keep them out of the page itself. -[[User:LV|LV]] 00:00, 4 May 2012 (EDT)
:::::Would it be acceptable to have a template that displays the foreign names, but hides or combines entries if the names are not unique? The template might also be able to auto-categorize by "characters missing ''language'' names", too.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 18:49, 29 May 2012 (EDT)

==Toy Fair/Pre-Toy Fair Catalogues==
Collectively we went all out on getting hold of the 86 PTF catalogue when it popped up on eBay and have a nice page with full scans of it (I say "we" I completely missed that fund-raising drive). Going forward, is it a feasible aim for other Toy Fair and Pre-Toy Fair cats to be collected for the Wiki or is 86 known to be the only one of significant interest? I ask because I just stumbled upon an eBay seller with the 88 TF cat (which I'd hoped to procure for use on my Visionaries wiki) and some early 90s ones, all of which are beyond my means, but at relatively reasonable prices. Can't link to them on my phone, but I thought I'd mention it in case they are of significant interest like the 86 one was. [[User:Danja|Danja]] 03:45, 6 May 2012 (EDT)

== Google Chrome ==
Does anybody else experience a ''really'' slow connection to only this site while using Google Chrome? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 21:42, 17 May 2012 (EDT)

FYI: <nowiki>{{bigquote}}</nowiki> overlaps images in Google Chrome, like on [[Morocco]]. I don't know when that started. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:03, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

Now, the <nowiki>{{picsneeded}}</nowiki> tag overlaps the top of the episode template. It might just be my computer, but I don't know. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 18:28, 29 May 2012 (EDT)

:These layout problems are apparently an issue with the latest version of Chrome. I guess they'll get fixed in the next release or something. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:10, 31 May 2012 (EDT)
::There's been two new versions of Chrome since you said that, [[User:Abates|abates]], and it hasn't been fixed, so I'm reporting it to Google. Like that's gonna work. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 10:09, 19 June 2012 (EDT)

== Transformers 4 ==
Does anyone mind if I take a stab at creating a page for it? I'm not some idiot who's gonna create a crappy page with no effort. Or is it ''way'' to early to do that? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 19:03, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
:I'd say wait until at least the first poster appears on the Internet, then you'll have some sort of image to put in. Really though it is a bit too early, if everything goes to plan TF4 won't be out for another two years, so the TF4 article would be sitting around with nothing on it for at least a year before we start getting concrete information. [[User:TurboFox|TurboFox]] 17:06, 24 August 2012 (EDT)

== Prime game ==
What do people think about putting [[Transformers Prime: The Game]] in the nav bar? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 09:47, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
:Or we can replace the link to the Prime cartoon page with a link to the Prime franchise page, that way it avoids overcluttering the navbar. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:15, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
::Yeah, that also might work. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 09:23, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
:::At least 95% of the people who click on that are likely to be looking for info on the cartoon, and I feel like if we have Rescue Bots and Dark of the Moon pointing to the cartoon/film rather than the franchises, we should aim to be consistent with our navigation. We'll presumably have to add [[Transformers Universe]] there eventually anyway. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:46, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
::::Yeah, I forgot about that. We probably can take Dark of the Moon to declutter it. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 16:50, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
:::::We could divide things up with subheaders or just by putting darker lines in to split up the links. Man, I wish there was a way to easily add in more links without cluttering up the menu too much. It feels like we should have links to current toylines as well, and maybe the current IDW comics. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:21, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
::::::Yeah probably, but what can you do, right? And I like that subheader idea. And on a different note, "Transformers Prime: The Game" is a mouthful. How can we abbreviate that? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 17:36, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
::::::: TF Prime: The Game??? [[User:Bumblebee2000|Bumblebee2000]] 08:19, 12 June 2012 (EDT)
::::::::Probably the best we can do. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 13:37, 12 June 2012 (EDT)
:::::::::On abbreviating the name, as everything on the wiki is Transformers, you can say "Prime: The Game" instead of "TF Prime: The Game". The "TF" is assumed. [[User:JohnnyMrNinja|JohnnyMrNinja]] 15:30, 13 June 2012 (EDT)
::::::::::So what are we going to do about this nav bar? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 18:17, 12 June 2012 (EDT)
:::::::::::Are we using the <nowiki>{{Primecap}}</nowiki> template for images from it? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 10:07, 13 June 2012 (EDT)

:::::::::::Be patient. This stuff never happens overnight. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:50, 12 June 2012 (EDT)
::::::::::::Not exactly overnight anymore, two months later. As you might be able to tell, patience is not my strong suit. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 12:10, 30 August 2012 (EDT)
:::::::::::::Sorry, I meant to have a go at fiddling with the lines to break the menu up a bit but I forgot. I'll have a go at it this weekend. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:16, 30 August 2012 (EDT)
::::::::::::::Sweet! -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 17:33, 30 August 2012 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::''Niiiiccceeee.'' -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 22:10, 1 September 2012 (EDT)
I have added this and taken out Dark of the Moon, since that's been out for over a year. I was going to add [[Transformers Universe]], but I realised we still don't have a release date for that. I've also added darker lines under the "Main Page" and under the navigation links which are actual articles rather than Wiki things, which will hopefully make those links more grouped in function. You might have to force a refresh to see those. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:12, 1 September 2012 (EDT)
:I see them. Nice looking. And I'll let you know when we have a release date. I check every day. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 22:16, 1 September 2012 (EDT)

== Rare/Unkown vintage G1 Walkie Talkie toys? ==

Hi guys. I was just browsing ebay and came across 3 old G1 Walkie Talkies that don't appear to be mentioned on the wiki anywhere.
#1- [http://www.ebay.com/itm/Transformers-Walkie-Talkie-ROBOT-1987-Hasbro-Inc/270982316728/ This] one appears to be an Argentinian Transformer with the mold licensed from Commando Toys.
#2 [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Transformers-G1-Walkie-Talkies-Boxed-/300654034838?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item4600607f96/ These] guys appear to be unnamed generics.
#3 [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/REAL-VTG-80s-TRANSFORMERS-INTERCOM-TELEPHONE-SYSTEM-WIRED-WALKIE-TALKIE-NIB-MIB-/360458042129?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item53ecf93b11 This] one features two Optimus Primes as an "Electronic Intercom Telephone System" (which seems to basically be two walkie talkies connected via a wire). Box says made by Nasta in lager photos and check out that goofy looking transformation sequence.

I'm not entirely sure if any of these are legit as I've never seen them mentioned anywhere else before. Anyone else know more info about these? Should they be added to wiki? [[User:RavenG|RavenG]] 02:27, 16 June 2012 (EDT)
:I used to have a set of #2, but I've no idea where they are now. They were pretty common in the UK I think. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 03:17, 19 July 2012 (EDT)

== Technical Contact (and passwords) ==

Hi, guys. It's Botch the Crab... though I can't sign in as my account. I lost my password. I don't know what email address is associated with the account, but whichever one it is, when I did the "forgot password" thing and was told a new password was emailed to me, I never received any emails.

So my first question is: who can help me re-claim my account?

My second question is: who are the technical administrators of the wiki, and is that information posted somewhere that I couldn't find? I tried contacting Chris McFeely and David Willis, but neither of them were able to help, nor did they know who
would. So! Suggestions?

:I tried emailing your username, but it didn't work... It said that I need to be logged in with a valid email set, but I had done both of those things. Can any other user successfully send an email to [[User:Botch the Crab]]? Because it might be the email module that isn't working and that's why you can't reset your password. I don't think the MediaWiki framework has been updated since 2008 (we're running [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Release_notes/1.12#MediaWiki_1.12.0 MediWiki 1.12.0]), and if David Willis doesn't know who's running the tech (seeing as how [http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/tfwiki.net he registered this site), it makes me think that there are not any people doing that. I could be mistaken, but I think there are only admins that are affecting change within the MW software.
:As far as I know, once a password to a MW site is lost there is no recovery outside of email, at least that is the case for WP. [[User:JohnnyMrNinja|JohnnyMrNinja]] 17:49, 16 June 2012 (EDT)

::I just tried sending an email to Botch and it worked, though the copy I sent myself ended up in my gmail spam folder. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:48, 16 June 2012 (EDT)

:::You're right, I had to confirm my email address and now I can email, although emails from this site were marked as spam for me as well. Botch, I can only hope that you haven't checked your spam folder. [[User:JohnnyMrNinja|JohnnyMrNinja]] 00:54, 17 June 2012 (EDT)

:Thanks for all the help, guys. Unfortunately, I haven't received any of the "new password" emails. (Yes, I keep checking the spam folder.) The frustrating part is that without being able to sign in, I cannot confirm ''which'' email address these are being sent to. All my emails are forwarded to my gmail account, so I have no idea why I wouldn't receive them. It's a mystery. It's weird to think it's possible that none of the administrators have the access or ability to solve this.--[[User:Botch|Botch]] 23:18, 18 June 2012 (EDT)
::I thought Scout and/or McFly were doing our technical stuff. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:27, 18 June 2012 (EDT)
:::I'm pretty sure that Scout and I have been over this fairly often: We're pretty damned busy, so we're not monitoring the Community Portal pages. If someone's forgotten their password AND the associated email address, there's no real secure way to get them back in. Email addresses aren't exposed to us until we get down to the to SQL DB layer, barring some additional extensions that would expose everyone's information to a trusted few. I strongly suggest making a new account in the interim, while we discuss the repercussions of adding some more User Management extensions, and figuring out who we can trust. I'll tell you this much, though: If your password isn't basically a random scramble of characters and symbols, I wouldn't trust you with maintenance access. It's like giving a handgun to a chimp. (Not picking on anyone in particular, but let's keep this in mind as we start adding cooks to the kitchen.) --[[User:McFly|McFly]] 11:54, 1 August 2012 (EDT)

:Sad update: I managed to scrounge up the database password from some old notes, and I've got your email address: Same one listed on your website. If you can disable whatever's filtering out your spam, that might help, since your site mentions some sort of sender-response mechanism. Poor old Mediawiki is too stupid/honest to pretend that she's a human.--[[User:McFly|McFly]] 12:11, 1 August 2012 (EDT)

== Captions need to go ==

It seems I am not the only one who finds the caption "humor" annoying and irrelevant to the photo it is placed with. I see in huge bold letters 'THE FUNNY STAYS. -The Management' So it seems this is not the first time someone has brought this up.

It seems " The Management " are the few people who get their kicks from such while the rest of the users are stuck just rolling their eyes. I for one will no longer be visiting this wiki because of such.

The nail in the coffin for me was a caption that I looked up as I wondered why I didn't get the "joke" as I seen tons of Xformer related shows. Heaven forbid the joke had nothing to do with transformers, only the person who wrote the joke and a small selection of people probably will understand it.

Just a little FYI 90% of the captions are unfunny, I would dare say 30% or more have nothing to do with xformers.

(sorry if this is in the wrong place, sort of new to wiki's and I wish the first thing I could have posted here would have been positive. I believe this is really positive and will help the wiki more than any article I could have wrote.)
: Thank you for leaving. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:11, 21 June 2012 (EDT)

:Eh, the majority of the time when I stumble on a discussion on wikis on other sites, people will cite TFWiki and Wookiepedia as the best, and are generally complimentary about the humour, so while we occasionally get complaints about it, it seems like the majority of people like it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 03:29, 21 June 2012 (EDT)

: I also believe that anything else you would have contributed to the wiki would have been less useful than this. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 06:58, 21 June 2012 (EDT)

:....xformers? Is spelling out Transformers properly now "2 kool for skool"? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:32, 21 June 2012 (EDT)

:The Funny '''STAYS'''. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 09:26, 22 June 2012 (EDT)

:I'd note that if you want a serious TF wiki, there's an abandoned Wikia wiki that nobody seems to have gotten the bright idea of turning into one yet instead of always trying to convert this one. --[[Special:Contributions/108.176.195.222|108.176.195.222]] 01:43, 22 June 2012 (EDT)

::Some people here have actually mentioned this idea to the wikia "community", but they seem hellbent on remaining a poor copy of this site. The fact that they have barely added any pages since this site began while we have doubled in size doesn't seem to register to some of the people over there. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 02:37, 22 June 2012 (EDT)

: If you feel that bad about it then write some of your own on the Pics with out Captions. (hell knows that ultra magnus "I can deal with that" has been done to death)[[User:Phantom|Phantom]] 09:38, 22 June 2012 (EDT)
::To be fair, serious captions, unless vital to the understanding of the picture, tend to get rewritten here. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:42, 22 June 2012 (EDT)

== Spoiler titles ==

Something which came up last month, but I didn't want to bring it up at the time because it would only have compounded the problem.

The title for [[How Ratchet Got His Hands Back|IDW MtMtE #5]] was placed at the '''end''' of the issue, [http://www.comics.org/issue/26304/cover/4/ "The Night Gwen Stacy Died"]-style (rather than the typical beginning/first splash page), because it was ''itself'' a spoiler.

So, of course, every page which had a {{tl|spoiler}}-tag for the issue plastered it in the spoiler tag itself.

There's got to be a better way of doing this if a comic gets a spoiler-title again. -- [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 20:19, 7 July 2012 (EDT)
:The spoiler tags could have linked to the "More than Meets the Eye issue 5" redirect instead (the issue was originally created there to avoid just that problem, but then it got moved to the actual title anyway) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:30, 7 July 2012 (EDT)

Speaking of SPOILERS, is there any way people could ''stop'' putting them up for comics before the issues actually come out? By sheer happenstance, I just came across some significant details on the Wiki about the DJD, their leader, and their membership that I honestly would have preferred to read for myself when it's published. It was posted by long time members, so I'm assuming it's legit and came from SDCC or somewhere, but there are no sources so I can't be sure. If an anon posted that stuff, I probably would have removed it as typical Wikipedia fanfic trying to creep in.

Regardless, it's getting tough to come onto the TFwiki because of this stuff. Whenever a new 5-page preview for RID or MTMTE comes out, people are immediately updating the crew on the ''Lost Light'' page, adding place-holder storylinks to pages for new characters showing up, and just generally revealing every detail they can extract from the previews ahead of time. I get that avoiding spoilers on the internet is a luxury nowadays, but these previews come out nearly a week in advance for each of IDW's two series. Its one thing to avoid SPOILERS-labeled topics in a message board...its another to avoid the entire TFwiki for a third of every month to dodge preview materials. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 21:52, 20 July 2012 (EDT)
:This one I'll have to own, as 'twas me that did the deed. It was, as you speculated, another five page preview from IDW. I'd ''hoped'' the details I put in weren't too spoilery, as in the leader's case it was mostly putting a name to details we'd found out issues before. I can only apologize and try to be a bit more careful.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:11, 20 July 2012 (EDT)
::I'll also say that I was going to stick the group shot of them up on the wiki, but I can hold off if you think that would be best.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:40, 20 July 2012 (EDT)

== Autobot Communications officer in Headmasters ==

<nowiki>[[Image:Hm - autobot communications officer.jpg|thumb]]</nowiki>
Hey, this guy appeared in a single episode of Heamasters where he was the communications officer on-duty at Autobot City. ...does anyone know which episode? -[[User:Derik|Derik]]
:[[The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 1)]]. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 01:27, 18 July 2012 (EDT)
::Sir, you are a gentleman and a [[Transformerology|Transformerologist]]. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:47, 18 July 2012 (EDT)

== Connection issues ==

Is it just me or are there problems with the wiki's server or in how many connections it can manage at a time? I've not been around for awhile and have noticed that if I spend a few hours reading or editing the wiki, it randomly stops working for periods between 5 minutes to half an hour, which is a problem if I've just made a large edit to something. In fact, in the few minutes that it took for me to write this, it twice stopped working (so I couldn't preview the edit), and that was after sitting around for perhaps 10 minutes waiting for the wiki to allow me to open the community portal page. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:00, 2 August 2012 (EDT)
:I get this a lot, usually only for short periods but quite regularly. Either it just hangs or I get the "unable to serve page" error. Usually halfway through a big edit too, which is why I keep a text editor open to cut and paste stuff into. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 04:41, 30 August 2012 (EDT)

== I ♥ you guys ==

Am I the only one who sees ♥'s everywhere in the RecentChanges page?

Did we screw up the CSS while adding an admin? -[[Special:Contributions/67.6.127.163|67.6.127.163]] 23:03, 29 August 2012 (EDT)
:You don't see them if you're logged in.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:10, 30 August 2012 (EDT)
::I think if you're logged in, you still see them if you have the enhanced Recent Changes turned off, because Derik only coded them for the simple version of RC. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:39, 1 September 2012 (EDT)

== G.I. Joe wiki - a little help? ==

Hello, all. I just wanted to add a request for some help for what should really by this wiki's sister site, Joepedia, the G.I. Joe Wiki. Now, I posted a similar request on some other sci-fi themed wiki, but the only answer I got was being told that the rules forbid a request from another wiki to be made. Well, I think that was kind of stupid, considering the communal attitude the whole wiki concept represents. BUT, ANYWAY, the Joepedia has been growing over the years, but it's mostly frequented by a small dedicated group of contributors. Since Transformers and G.I. Joe are so closely linked, I hoped some folks on here would like to help.

I will add that I have no authority over on that site, and I don't really contribute much, mostly because of the time spent my own website. I'm just a concerned geeky citizen drumming up some support. --[[User:JMM|JMM]] 10:26, 7 September 2012 (EDT)
:Well, I would, but I really don't know jack shit about G.I. Joe. And when I think about it, I'm not sure this post belongs here. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 17:36, 7 September 2012 (EDT)
::Just looking around for a little help. This seemed like the closest thing to a G.I. Joe wiki out there, and I figured it was worth a try. --[[User:JMM|JMM]] 13:23, 13 September 2012 (EDT)
::I don't see a problem with a polite request for assistance or notification that a Joe wiki exists, since there IS some crossover interest. I just don't know how much ''useful'' crossover interest for the Joe wiki there is from this end outside of what we've already done. I mean, we've got extensive coverage of the parts of Joe directly involving TFs... I'd say that's probably going to be the most useful thing we have for you. But, if others wanna try it out... 
::...unless you're on Wikia.... --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 13:27, 13 September 2012 (EDT)
:::Yeah, it was just a quick heads up so people who may be interested are aware. I know a number of people who are equally obsessed with TF and Joe. :) Oh, and yes, it is on Wikia! --[[User:JMM|JMM]] 14:22, 13 September 2012 (EDT)
::::We did at one point approach a partnership with Joepedia, and even had a template that cross-linked articles we shared. It was just a little premature at the time (which was years ago) as Joepedia was just starting out and often our articles were more complete than theirs, or theirs were just stubs. It looks like they've gotten off the ground a bit more now.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:30, 13 September 2012 (EDT)
:::::Yes, their wiki got started later than this one. They have a small group of dedicated contributers, but the site's yet to attract the kind of interest this one does. --[[User:JMM|JMM]] 16:34, 13 September 2012 (EDT)

== New stub template ==
Does anybody have any objections to a video game stub template? It would look something like this:
 {{messagebox
|header=This article is still in beta stage.
|message_text=''This video game article is a [[:Category:Video game stubs|stub]] and is missing information. You can help '''{{SITENAME}}''' by [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:{{NAMESPACE}}:{{PAGENAME}}|action=edit}} expanding it].''
|image_name=ProwlTFU.JPG
|image_width=40px
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If anybody knows of a better picture that would go well with this, please upload it so it can be put in. Thanks! -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 15:52, 2 October 2012 (EDT)

:How about a pic from the story where Prime dies in a video game? Heh if only Beta had ever been in a game, that'd be perfect. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 16:03, 2 October 2012 (EDT)

Movor

2012-10-02T17:47:29Z

76.28.76.206:

{{factions|decepticon}}
{{picsneeded|Toys}}
:''Movor is a [[Decepticon]] [[Commando]] from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (franchise)|Robots in Disguise]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:MovorRID01.jpg|right|242px|thumb|"Curse those pesky power-brats!"]]

'''Movor's''' aim leaves something to be desired, especially from orbit. He's rather more likely to hit friend than foe. While he might be quiet on the ground, letting [[Scourge (RID)|Scourge]] and Mega-Octane do the talking, up in space this somewhat sarcastic, complaining whiner runs an endless commentary to himself, criticizing both his enemies and allies tactics and making pop culture references while observing things from high. He prefers baths in lukewarm water and likes Heavy Metal music.

Movor combines with his fellow Commandos to form [[Ruination (RID)|Ruination]].

==Fiction==
===''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Robert Axelrod]] (English), [[Hidenori Konda]] (Japanese)
[[Image:Commandos Movor RoTor firing.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Get them! Uh, I mean, seize them!]]
Movor was originally one of a group of [[Autobot]]s led by [[Scourge (RID)|Scourge]], who travelled to [[Earth]] in a [[protoform]] state. Their ship crashed, and years later was dug up by a group of [[Predacon (RID)|Predacon]]s under [[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]]'s leadership. Taken to [[McKinley Army Base]], the Predacons scanned army vehicles as Megatron infused them with his spark energy. While attempting to choose a vehicle mode for the protoform to scan, Sky-Byte tripped and set off the scanner. The beam nearly hit an eagle (which would have made him a Predacon), but instead, it hit a low flying space shuttle. Though the newly born-Decepticons were ready to fight, Megatron ordered them to retreat so they could re-power. {{storylink|The Decepticons}} The new troops' first mission was to disrupt the [[human]]s by attacking [[Sherman Dam]]. They planted [[pulsar bomb]]s on the dam, however when [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]] took control of the bombs, preventing them from firing, the ground-based Commandos blasted a hole in the dam and ended up grappling with the freed [[Autobot Brothers]]. Ro-Tor and Movor attempted to provide air support, but were attacked by the newly-arrived [[Team Bullet Train]]. When the trains formed [[Rail Racer (RID)|Rail Racer]], the Commandos responded by forming Ruination, however the combined power of the Autobots was too much for them and they were forced to retreat. {{storylink|Commandos}}

[[Image:AttackFromSpace Movor attackmode.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Hey, I think my tailfin perspective is screwed.]]
The Commandos unsuccessfully fought against the [[Spy Changer]]s on [[Montrose Island]] {{storylink|Volcano}} after which the Decepticons came up with a new plan—take a space shuttle hostage and replace it with Movor. Once in orbit, Movor attempted to track numerous Autobots (including [[Tow-Line (RID)|Tow-Line]], [[Prowl (RID)|Prowl]], and [[X-Brawn]]) with the intention of finding the Autobots' hidden base, but ultimately, he found himself wasting time watching them go about their everyday activities. Once he set his sights on [[Side Burn (RID)|Side Burn]], who was in the process of chasing [[Kelly (RID)|Kelly]]'s red convertible (yet again), Movor began leading the other Decepticons to numerous erroneous locations, which were all destroyed.

The Autobots caught wise to the scheme, and lured Side Burn—and by extension, the Decepticons—to [[Pier 7B]]. The other Decepticons were led into an ambush while Movor remained high in orbit. When the shuttle attempted to help his comrades, he inadvertently shot Scourge (twice!) while trying to take out [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]], making the whole plan a bust. Once it was over, Movor was knocked out of orbit by a satellite. {{storylink|Attack from Outer Space}}

[[Image:TheTest Rollbar Movor seated.jpg|thumb|left|200px|...It was a BIG rock!]]
The next cunning plan was to try to make the Autobots think that the Decepticons were defecting. The Autobot Brothers tested them by forcing them to do various menial tasks, which they threw themselves into in an attempt to lull the Autobots into a false sense of security. Movor had misgivings, expecting Scourge's temper to be their undoing. Sure enough, Scourge ended up giving the plan away at the last minute, and Optimus Prime fought them to a retreat. {{storylink|The Test (episode)|The Test}} The Decepticons later interrupted one of Sky-Byte's plans, and obtained a disk which appeared to be a map to the [[Global Space Bridge]] system. Unfortunately when they used it, it turned out to be a map of the local ''sewer'' system, and the Decepticons found themselves on the business end of Optimus's blizzard storm. {{storylink|Wedge's Short Fuse}}

When the Decepticons located the control center to the Global Space Bridge and sabotaged it so that the Autobots would be sent to random locations, Movor joined in causing havoc in [[Metro City]]. The [[Build Team]] soon realised what had happened, defeated the Commandos and repaired the space bridge. {{storylink|Landfill (episode)|Landfill}} Later the Decepticons attempted to intercept Optimus Prime, who they believed was taking the [[O-Part]]s to Sky-Byte, however even combining into Ruination didn't help them and the Autobot leader soon defeated them. {{storylink|Sky-Byte Saves the Day}}

[[Image:TestOfMetal Movor landing.jpg|thumb|right|200px|]]
After their raid on the [[East Power Station]] was foiled by the Build Team, the Commandos resolved to get their revenge on the Autobots. To this end, they started attacking construction sites in an attempt to goad the Build Team into fighting them. Eventually they succeeded in drawing the Build Team out and were able to dominate them in combat, at least until [[Landfill (RID)|Landfill]] led Ruination into an oil-filled cavern and ignited it, blasting the Commandos into the ocean. {{storylink|A Test of Metal}}

[[Image:MagnusForcedFusion Rotor and Movor.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Why are our heads so small?]]
A later raid on an oil refinery went better—while the Autobot Brothers did turn up, they were prevented from stopping the Decepticons by the arrival of [[Ultra Magnus (RID)|Ultra Magnus]]. Still, the Decepticons only got a portion of the fuel and, at Megatron's orders, set up a trap for the Autobot Brothers. Instead they got Ultra Magnus, whose fighting skills outclassed theirs. Even forming Ruination didn't help, and the Decepticons were forced into a retreat with the arrival of Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Ultra Magnus (episode)|Ultra Magnus}} Movor quickly went back into orbit in order to do some more spying. He was able to observe Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus fighting and, when Optimus subsequently lost, Movor was able to track Sky-Byte, who had found the hiding place Optimus had chosen to recuperate in. He returned from orbit to join the other Decepticons, as they launched an attack on the Autobot leader in order to finish the job. Despite the Commandos forming Ruination, they were no match for [[Omega Prime]], the combined form of Optimus and Ultra Magnus, and retreated hastily. {{storylink|Ultra Magnus: Forced Fusion!}}

[[Image:PowerToBurn Movor RoTor airattack.jpg|thumb|right|200px|]]
Some time later, the Decepticons were able to take the Autobot Brothers captive, allowing the Decepticons and Megatron to inflict some punishment on Optimus and Rail Racer, who were unable to fight back. Unfortunately Ultra Magnus rescued the three brothers, and Megatron's forces were soon in retreat once again. {{storylink|The Two Faces of Ultra Magnus}} Scourge attempted to get Ultra Magnus to join him in destroying Optimus, but Magnus turned him down, resulting in the Decepticons springing a trap on the Autobot. Though Side Burn and Prowl attempted to help Magnus, the renegade Autobot promptly left them to it, and they were little match for Ruination. Of course, the arrival of Optimus and return of Magnus turned things pretty firmly back in the Autobots' favour, and the Decepticons retreated once again. {{Storylink|Power to Burn!}}

More information was gleaned from the captured [[Kenneth Onishi|Doctor Onishi]]'s mind—there were strange ruins beneath Metro City which emanated powerful energy. The Decepticons set out to find the ruins and promptly ran into the Spy Changers. While [[Armorhide (RID)|Armorhide]] and [[Rollbar (RID)|Rollbar]] were left to take care of them, the rest of the Decepticons went on and ran into [[Railspike (RID)|Railspike]] and [[Rapid Run (RID)|Rapid Run]] in a subway tunnel. Movor and Ro-Tor stayed to keep them pinned down while Scourge and [[Mega-Octane]] continued on, however Ultra Magnus turned up and accidentally flooded the tunnel. Movor and Ro-Tor found themselves being washed away along with Team Bullet Train, eventually being flushed into the cavern containing the ruins where they were reunited with the other Decepticons. They combined into Ruination to fight the Autobots while Scourge headed for the ruins, unleashing [[Fortress Maximus (RID)|Fortress Maximus]]. {{storylink|Fortress Maximus (episode)|Fortress Maximus}} Chased off by Maximus's defense systems, the Commandos formed Ruination to keep Rail Racer busy while Scourge attempted to access Maximus again. {{storylink|Koji Gets His Wish}}

[[Image:FriendlyContest Movor stockattack.jpg|thumb|left|200px|]]
With the hunt for the O-Parts on, the Decepticons confronted the Autobot Brothers and Build Team, who had found an O-Part, and demanded they hand it over. The Autobots promptly disappeared through the Global Space Bridge, starting a game of cat and mouse. The Decepticons eventually cornered them in [[Egypt]], however Sky-Byte's bungling made recovering the O-Parts impossible. {{storylink|A Friendly Contest}} Spying from space, Movor spotted the Autobots in the [[Sahara|Sahara Desert]], and Megatron and the Decepticons arrived in time to attack Side Burn. Venturing into the subterranean ruins, they found the Autobots had located the [[Orb of Sigma]], and the Decepticons fought them while Megatron went for the Orb. Ultimately they were unsuccessful and, with the loss of Megatron, the Decepticons retreated back to the ''[[Megastar]]''. {{Storylink|Peril from the Past}}

Without Megatron's leadership, the Decepticons had a lot more freedom to do what they wanted. They tracked the Autobots to an old temple, where they were able to snatch [[Cerebros (RID)|Cerebros]], the key to controlling Fortress Maximus, away with the help of the Predacons. Maximus himself was soon located and, despite the Autobots attempting to defend the giant, Scourge was able to use Cerebros to activate him. The Commandos combined into Ruination during the following battle, however Scourge's lack of ability to control Maximus and the return of Megatron as Galvatron resulted in the Decepticons retreating. {{storylink|Maximus Emerges}}

[[Image:SurpriseAttack Movor firing.jpg|thumb|right|200px|So how many pictures of me shooting at things off-screen can we fit on this page?]]
A second attempt in the desert to control Maximus, with Ruination providing backup, didn't go any better {{storylink|The Human Element}} and during a third attempt, Scourge's treachery was revealed to Galvatron. {{storylink|Mistaken Identity}} This resulted in Galvatron forcibly reprogramming all of the Decepticons to obey his will, and putting them under the command of Sky-Byte for an assault on Autobot headquarters. Pursuing the fleeing Optimus Prime, the Decepticons and Predacons were led into a trap, though the arrival of the ''Megastar'' and Fortress Maximus rendered them superfluous anyway. They watched as Maximus defeated the ''Megastar'', and Galvatron fell to the ground. {{storylink|Surprise Attack!}} Galvatron was not out, however, and the Decepticons defended him while he drained energy from Fortress Maximus. He sent Ruination and Scourge into the Global Space Bridge after the retreating Autobots, before himself flooding the tunnel with lava by rupturing the tunnel wall. {{storylink|Galvatron's Revenge}} They survived the lava, only to be swiftly defeated by the Autobot forces. After Galvatron's defeat, they were shipped off to the [[asteroid prison colony]] with Galvatron and the Predacons. {{Storylink|The Final Battle (RID)|The Final Battle}}
{{--}}

===Universe===
As part of Ruination, Movor and the Decepticons were sent by [[Unicron]] along with [[Reptilion]], [[Sunstorm (Universe)|Sunstorm]] and [[Perceptor (Universe)|Perceptor]] to intercept some extra-dimensionals Unicron wanted for the [[Cauldron]]. Ruination's group was successfully fought off by the [[Child of Primus|Children of Primus]]. {{storylink|Voice Actor Drama|OTFCC 2004 Live-Action Script Reading}}

==Toys==
===Robots in Disguise===
*'''Movor''' (Basic, 2000, 2001)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''D-008'''

: A [[redeco]] of the [[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]] [[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]] toy, Movor transforms into a Space Shuttle. He has a pair of large non-firing cannons that clip onto the back of his shuttle mode or on the pegs under his wings. As the toy uses the [[Scramble City (toyline)|Scramble City]]-style of connection, he can form any limb to any combination of similar robots, though naturally he normally forms a limb to the combined robot [[Ruination (RID)|Ruination]].

: He was first released as part of the [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] ''Car Robots'' line in 2000. In 2001, [[Hasbro]] released the toy as part of the ''Robots in Disguise'' series. There are a couple of [[Paint operation|paint application]] differences between the two releases; the most immediately noticeable being that the Hasbro version uses Decepticon sigils instead of the old [[Commando|Combatron]] ones. The Hasbro version also uses silver paint for the windshield rather than Takara's metallic purple.

: This mold was also used to make ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Operation Combination (toyline)|Operation Combination]]'' [[Shuttle Gunner]].

*'''Baldigus''' (Multi-pack, 2000)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''D-011'''

: In Japan, Movor/Shuttler was also made available as part of a complete team multi-pack with his teammates [[Armorhide (RID)|Armorhide]], [[Mega-Octane]], [[Rollbar (RID)|Rollbar]] and [[Ro-Tor (RID)|Ro-Tor]]. All toys were identical to their individual Japanese releases, but the set only came with a bio card for the combined form.

*'''Ruination''' (Ultra, 2003)

: The entire Commando team was redecoed in various shades of gray with "urban camo" patterns as part of a Wal-Mart [[exclusive]] gift set, oddly released well after the end of the ''Robots in Disguise'' line. Movor was also slightly [[Retool|retooled]], blunting his nosecone significantly.

===Universe===
*'''Ruination''' (Ultra, 2004)

: The entire Ruination team was redecoed ''again'' to make ''another'' Wal-Mart exclusive set (why?), this time with a unified "desert camo" theme under the ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' banner. It came out at the same time as five ''other'' Wal-Mart ''Transformers'' exclusives, which led to a glut. Ruination seemed a particularly slow mover in this batch.

==Notes==
* According to [[Aaron Archer]] at [[BotCon 2002]], Movor's name is simply indicative of the fact he... moves. Move-or. Yes, really. Shut up.
* The episode "[[Attack from Outer Space]]", which featured Movor's bumbled attempts at orbital bombardment, was not aired on Fox Kids, due to post-September 11 sensitivity.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Shuttler''' (シャトラー ''Shatorā'')

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/2001/Decepticon/Movor/movor.htm Movor at TFU.info]

[[Category:Combiners]]
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[[Category:Universe Decepticons]]
[[Category:Wal-Mart exclusives]]

Movor

2012-10-02T17:46:39Z

76.28.76.206: This was old and out of format. Also tweaked it to try to get across more of his character.

{{factions|decepticon}}
{{picsneeded|Toys}}
:''Movor is a [[Decepticon]] [[Commando]] from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (franchise)|Robots in Disguise]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:MovorRID01.jpg|right|242px|thumb|"Curse those pesky power-brats!"]]

'''Movor's''' aim leaves something to be desired, especially from orbit. He's rather more likely to hit friend than foe. While he might be quiet on the ground, letting [[Scourge (RiD)]] and Mega-Octane do the talking, up in space this somewhat sarcastic, complaining whiner runs an endless commentary to himself, criticizing both his enemies and allies tactics and making pop culture references while observing things from high. He prefers baths in lukewarm water and likes Heavy Metal music.

Movor combines with his fellow Commandos to form [[Ruination (RID)|Ruination]].

==Fiction==
===''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Robert Axelrod]] (English), [[Hidenori Konda]] (Japanese)
[[Image:Commandos Movor RoTor firing.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Get them! Uh, I mean, seize them!]]
Movor was originally one of a group of [[Autobot]]s led by [[Scourge (RID)|Scourge]], who travelled to [[Earth]] in a [[protoform]] state. Their ship crashed, and years later was dug up by a group of [[Predacon (RID)|Predacon]]s under [[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]]'s leadership. Taken to [[McKinley Army Base]], the Predacons scanned army vehicles as Megatron infused them with his spark energy. While attempting to choose a vehicle mode for the protoform to scan, Sky-Byte tripped and set off the scanner. The beam nearly hit an eagle (which would have made him a Predacon), but instead, it hit a low flying space shuttle. Though the newly born-Decepticons were ready to fight, Megatron ordered them to retreat so they could re-power. {{storylink|The Decepticons}} The new troops' first mission was to disrupt the [[human]]s by attacking [[Sherman Dam]]. They planted [[pulsar bomb]]s on the dam, however when [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]] took control of the bombs, preventing them from firing, the ground-based Commandos blasted a hole in the dam and ended up grappling with the freed [[Autobot Brothers]]. Ro-Tor and Movor attempted to provide air support, but were attacked by the newly-arrived [[Team Bullet Train]]. When the trains formed [[Rail Racer (RID)|Rail Racer]], the Commandos responded by forming Ruination, however the combined power of the Autobots was too much for them and they were forced to retreat. {{storylink|Commandos}}

[[Image:AttackFromSpace Movor attackmode.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Hey, I think my tailfin perspective is screwed.]]
The Commandos unsuccessfully fought against the [[Spy Changer]]s on [[Montrose Island]] {{storylink|Volcano}} after which the Decepticons came up with a new plan—take a space shuttle hostage and replace it with Movor. Once in orbit, Movor attempted to track numerous Autobots (including [[Tow-Line (RID)|Tow-Line]], [[Prowl (RID)|Prowl]], and [[X-Brawn]]) with the intention of finding the Autobots' hidden base, but ultimately, he found himself wasting time watching them go about their everyday activities. Once he set his sights on [[Side Burn (RID)|Side Burn]], who was in the process of chasing [[Kelly (RID)|Kelly]]'s red convertible (yet again), Movor began leading the other Decepticons to numerous erroneous locations, which were all destroyed.

The Autobots caught wise to the scheme, and lured Side Burn—and by extension, the Decepticons—to [[Pier 7B]]. The other Decepticons were led into an ambush while Movor remained high in orbit. When the shuttle attempted to help his comrades, he inadvertently shot Scourge (twice!) while trying to take out [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]], making the whole plan a bust. Once it was over, Movor was knocked out of orbit by a satellite. {{storylink|Attack from Outer Space}}

[[Image:TheTest Rollbar Movor seated.jpg|thumb|left|200px|...It was a BIG rock!]]
The next cunning plan was to try to make the Autobots think that the Decepticons were defecting. The Autobot Brothers tested them by forcing them to do various menial tasks, which they threw themselves into in an attempt to lull the Autobots into a false sense of security. Movor had misgivings, expecting Scourge's temper to be their undoing. Sure enough, Scourge ended up giving the plan away at the last minute, and Optimus Prime fought them to a retreat. {{storylink|The Test (episode)|The Test}} The Decepticons later interrupted one of Sky-Byte's plans, and obtained a disk which appeared to be a map to the [[Global Space Bridge]] system. Unfortunately when they used it, it turned out to be a map of the local ''sewer'' system, and the Decepticons found themselves on the business end of Optimus's blizzard storm. {{storylink|Wedge's Short Fuse}}

When the Decepticons located the control center to the Global Space Bridge and sabotaged it so that the Autobots would be sent to random locations, Movor joined in causing havoc in [[Metro City]]. The [[Build Team]] soon realised what had happened, defeated the Commandos and repaired the space bridge. {{storylink|Landfill (episode)|Landfill}} Later the Decepticons attempted to intercept Optimus Prime, who they believed was taking the [[O-Part]]s to Sky-Byte, however even combining into Ruination didn't help them and the Autobot leader soon defeated them. {{storylink|Sky-Byte Saves the Day}}

[[Image:TestOfMetal Movor landing.jpg|thumb|right|200px|]]
After their raid on the [[East Power Station]] was foiled by the Build Team, the Commandos resolved to get their revenge on the Autobots. To this end, they started attacking construction sites in an attempt to goad the Build Team into fighting them. Eventually they succeeded in drawing the Build Team out and were able to dominate them in combat, at least until [[Landfill (RID)|Landfill]] led Ruination into an oil-filled cavern and ignited it, blasting the Commandos into the ocean. {{storylink|A Test of Metal}}

[[Image:MagnusForcedFusion Rotor and Movor.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Why are our heads so small?]]
A later raid on an oil refinery went better—while the Autobot Brothers did turn up, they were prevented from stopping the Decepticons by the arrival of [[Ultra Magnus (RID)|Ultra Magnus]]. Still, the Decepticons only got a portion of the fuel and, at Megatron's orders, set up a trap for the Autobot Brothers. Instead they got Ultra Magnus, whose fighting skills outclassed theirs. Even forming Ruination didn't help, and the Decepticons were forced into a retreat with the arrival of Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Ultra Magnus (episode)|Ultra Magnus}} Movor quickly went back into orbit in order to do some more spying. He was able to observe Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus fighting and, when Optimus subsequently lost, Movor was able to track Sky-Byte, who had found the hiding place Optimus had chosen to recuperate in. He returned from orbit to join the other Decepticons, as they launched an attack on the Autobot leader in order to finish the job. Despite the Commandos forming Ruination, they were no match for [[Omega Prime]], the combined form of Optimus and Ultra Magnus, and retreated hastily. {{storylink|Ultra Magnus: Forced Fusion!}}

[[Image:PowerToBurn Movor RoTor airattack.jpg|thumb|right|200px|]]
Some time later, the Decepticons were able to take the Autobot Brothers captive, allowing the Decepticons and Megatron to inflict some punishment on Optimus and Rail Racer, who were unable to fight back. Unfortunately Ultra Magnus rescued the three brothers, and Megatron's forces were soon in retreat once again. {{storylink|The Two Faces of Ultra Magnus}} Scourge attempted to get Ultra Magnus to join him in destroying Optimus, but Magnus turned him down, resulting in the Decepticons springing a trap on the Autobot. Though Side Burn and Prowl attempted to help Magnus, the renegade Autobot promptly left them to it, and they were little match for Ruination. Of course, the arrival of Optimus and return of Magnus turned things pretty firmly back in the Autobots' favour, and the Decepticons retreated once again. {{Storylink|Power to Burn!}}

More information was gleaned from the captured [[Kenneth Onishi|Doctor Onishi]]'s mind—there were strange ruins beneath Metro City which emanated powerful energy. The Decepticons set out to find the ruins and promptly ran into the Spy Changers. While [[Armorhide (RID)|Armorhide]] and [[Rollbar (RID)|Rollbar]] were left to take care of them, the rest of the Decepticons went on and ran into [[Railspike (RID)|Railspike]] and [[Rapid Run (RID)|Rapid Run]] in a subway tunnel. Movor and Ro-Tor stayed to keep them pinned down while Scourge and [[Mega-Octane]] continued on, however Ultra Magnus turned up and accidentally flooded the tunnel. Movor and Ro-Tor found themselves being washed away along with Team Bullet Train, eventually being flushed into the cavern containing the ruins where they were reunited with the other Decepticons. They combined into Ruination to fight the Autobots while Scourge headed for the ruins, unleashing [[Fortress Maximus (RID)|Fortress Maximus]]. {{storylink|Fortress Maximus (episode)|Fortress Maximus}} Chased off by Maximus's defense systems, the Commandos formed Ruination to keep Rail Racer busy while Scourge attempted to access Maximus again. {{storylink|Koji Gets His Wish}}

[[Image:FriendlyContest Movor stockattack.jpg|thumb|left|200px|]]
With the hunt for the O-Parts on, the Decepticons confronted the Autobot Brothers and Build Team, who had found an O-Part, and demanded they hand it over. The Autobots promptly disappeared through the Global Space Bridge, starting a game of cat and mouse. The Decepticons eventually cornered them in [[Egypt]], however Sky-Byte's bungling made recovering the O-Parts impossible. {{storylink|A Friendly Contest}} Spying from space, Movor spotted the Autobots in the [[Sahara|Sahara Desert]], and Megatron and the Decepticons arrived in time to attack Side Burn. Venturing into the subterranean ruins, they found the Autobots had located the [[Orb of Sigma]], and the Decepticons fought them while Megatron went for the Orb. Ultimately they were unsuccessful and, with the loss of Megatron, the Decepticons retreated back to the ''[[Megastar]]''. {{Storylink|Peril from the Past}}

Without Megatron's leadership, the Decepticons had a lot more freedom to do what they wanted. They tracked the Autobots to an old temple, where they were able to snatch [[Cerebros (RID)|Cerebros]], the key to controlling Fortress Maximus, away with the help of the Predacons. Maximus himself was soon located and, despite the Autobots attempting to defend the giant, Scourge was able to use Cerebros to activate him. The Commandos combined into Ruination during the following battle, however Scourge's lack of ability to control Maximus and the return of Megatron as Galvatron resulted in the Decepticons retreating. {{storylink|Maximus Emerges}}

[[Image:SurpriseAttack Movor firing.jpg|thumb|right|200px|So how many pictures of me shooting at things off-screen can we fit on this page?]]
A second attempt in the desert to control Maximus, with Ruination providing backup, didn't go any better {{storylink|The Human Element}} and during a third attempt, Scourge's treachery was revealed to Galvatron. {{storylink|Mistaken Identity}} This resulted in Galvatron forcibly reprogramming all of the Decepticons to obey his will, and putting them under the command of Sky-Byte for an assault on Autobot headquarters. Pursuing the fleeing Optimus Prime, the Decepticons and Predacons were led into a trap, though the arrival of the ''Megastar'' and Fortress Maximus rendered them superfluous anyway. They watched as Maximus defeated the ''Megastar'', and Galvatron fell to the ground. {{storylink|Surprise Attack!}} Galvatron was not out, however, and the Decepticons defended him while he drained energy from Fortress Maximus. He sent Ruination and Scourge into the Global Space Bridge after the retreating Autobots, before himself flooding the tunnel with lava by rupturing the tunnel wall. {{storylink|Galvatron's Revenge}} They survived the lava, only to be swiftly defeated by the Autobot forces. After Galvatron's defeat, they were shipped off to the [[asteroid prison colony]] with Galvatron and the Predacons. {{Storylink|The Final Battle (RID)|The Final Battle}}
{{--}}

===Universe===
As part of Ruination, Movor and the Decepticons were sent by [[Unicron]] along with [[Reptilion]], [[Sunstorm (Universe)|Sunstorm]] and [[Perceptor (Universe)|Perceptor]] to intercept some extra-dimensionals Unicron wanted for the [[Cauldron]]. Ruination's group was successfully fought off by the [[Child of Primus|Children of Primus]]. {{storylink|Voice Actor Drama|OTFCC 2004 Live-Action Script Reading}}

==Toys==
===Robots in Disguise===
*'''Movor''' (Basic, 2000, 2001)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''D-008'''

: A [[redeco]] of the [[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]] [[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]] toy, Movor transforms into a Space Shuttle. He has a pair of large non-firing cannons that clip onto the back of his shuttle mode or on the pegs under his wings. As the toy uses the [[Scramble City (toyline)|Scramble City]]-style of connection, he can form any limb to any combination of similar robots, though naturally he normally forms a limb to the combined robot [[Ruination (RID)|Ruination]].

: He was first released as part of the [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] ''Car Robots'' line in 2000. In 2001, [[Hasbro]] released the toy as part of the ''Robots in Disguise'' series. There are a couple of [[Paint operation|paint application]] differences between the two releases; the most immediately noticeable being that the Hasbro version uses Decepticon sigils instead of the old [[Commando|Combatron]] ones. The Hasbro version also uses silver paint for the windshield rather than Takara's metallic purple.

: This mold was also used to make ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Operation Combination (toyline)|Operation Combination]]'' [[Shuttle Gunner]].

*'''Baldigus''' (Multi-pack, 2000)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''D-011'''

: In Japan, Movor/Shuttler was also made available as part of a complete team multi-pack with his teammates [[Armorhide (RID)|Armorhide]], [[Mega-Octane]], [[Rollbar (RID)|Rollbar]] and [[Ro-Tor (RID)|Ro-Tor]]. All toys were identical to their individual Japanese releases, but the set only came with a bio card for the combined form.

*'''Ruination''' (Ultra, 2003)

: The entire Commando team was redecoed in various shades of gray with "urban camo" patterns as part of a Wal-Mart [[exclusive]] gift set, oddly released well after the end of the ''Robots in Disguise'' line. Movor was also slightly [[Retool|retooled]], blunting his nosecone significantly.

===Universe===
*'''Ruination''' (Ultra, 2004)

: The entire Ruination team was redecoed ''again'' to make ''another'' Wal-Mart exclusive set (why?), this time with a unified "desert camo" theme under the ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' banner. It came out at the same time as five ''other'' Wal-Mart ''Transformers'' exclusives, which led to a glut. Ruination seemed a particularly slow mover in this batch.

==Notes==
* According to [[Aaron Archer]] at [[BotCon 2002]], Movor's name is simply indicative of the fact he... moves. Move-or. Yes, really. Shut up.
* The episode "[[Attack from Outer Space]]", which featured Movor's bumbled attempts at orbital bombardment, was not aired on Fox Kids, due to post-September 11 sensitivity.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Shuttler''' (シャトラー ''Shatorā'')

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/2001/Decepticon/Movor/movor.htm Movor at TFU.info]

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Relinquishment Clinic

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:''The Relinquishment Clinics are buildings from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

'''Relinquishment Clinics''' are facilities present on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] that allows customers to temporarily transfer their [[Spark]] into a new [[Body-type]]. Such a procedure only cost... 5,000 [[shanix]]?! What a rip off!

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 comics===
Prior to the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]], full scale re-engineering was a service only available to the elite [[Cybertronian]] classes. As such, the general masses were fixed in their alt-modes and unable to change them. At this time, these clinics were run by commercial enterprises and charged fees as high as 5,000 shanix to make use of a patented Sparkswap Technology to transfer a Spark into a vacant bodyshell. These bodyshells were from donors which allowed clients to experience life in a completely different alt-mode. [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] disliked the clinics as he felt that they were a nasty form of body tourism.

Four million years later, [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] related a story of his time in mechaforensics before the Great War. This led to some of the crew on the ''[[Lost Light]]'' asking about these clinics as they were no longer part of modern Cybertronian society. Ratchet hits that they led to something really nasty. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|Hangers On}}

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Talk:Stumble Bee

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I hate to nitpick a fine article like this one, but Stumble Bee is probably not an actual "Decepticon from the Aligned continuity family" or a "[[:Category:Prime Decepticons|Prime Decepticon]]". He appears to be a fictional character from ''Decepticon Storytime Theater''. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:10, 27 September 2012 (EDT)

: That calls for a supposition on your part that isn't this wiki's job to make. Maybe a note that he MIGHT be fictional would make sense, but he still deserves a page and to be treated as a real character just as gods and such that might be fictional have one. If we don't know for sure. IMO at least.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 22:13, 27 September 2012 (EDT)

Onslaught (G1)

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:''Onslaught is a [[Decepticon]] [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticon]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
{{picsneeded|Wings of Honor fiction}}
[[Image:MTMTEOnslaught.jpg|right|300px|thumb|''The Combaticons are warring! Onslaught is ROARING! He is one metamorphin' DUDICUS!'']]
'''Onslaught''' is what you'd call the "hands-off" type. He doesn't enjoy getting his mitts dirty, but instead prefers the thrill of designing battle plans, strategies, and tactics, and then watching his [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticon]] soldiers carry them out. While he typically crafts his strategies to exclude his direct involvement, Onslaught is no coward. When required, he will engage in battle with strength, cunning and earthquaking fury. This darker, more brutish side of Onslaught might lead some [[Decepticon]]s into thinking he has a secret blood-lust stashed away in his circuits. But truth be told, he's really just ticked off that his plans didn't work out the way they were supposed to.

Onslaught can combine with his fellow Combaticons to form [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]], who is considerably dumber than Onslaught.

After his conversion to [[Power Core Combiner]] technology, he took the code name '''Combatmaster'''.

{{quote|I beg your pardon?! My strategies are brilliant!|Onslaught to [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]|"[[The Revenge of Bruticus]]"}}

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
{{voiceactor|[[S. Marc Jordan]], [[Steve Bulen|Steve Bulin]] (English), [[Yū Shimaka|Yutaka Shimaka]] (Japanese)|[[Jin Horikawa]] (Japanese, ''The Rebirth'' only), [[Edgar Wald]] (Latin American), [[Hans-Rainer Müller]] (German, ''Fiva Faces of Darkness, Part 1 - 3''), [[Walter von Hauff]] (German, ''Surprise Party''), [[Thomas Rau]] (German, ''Starscreams Ghost''), [[Bernd Simon]] (German, ''The Rebirth, Part 3''), [[Gerd Rigauer]] (German, Generation 2 Dub)}}
[[Image:StarscreamsBrigade OnslaughtVortex.jpg|left|200px|thumb|"Heave! Next time, Vortex, ''chew'' your food!"]]
Onslaught was one of the five [[renegade Decepticon]]s liberated by [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] in the Air Commander's latest attempt to unseat [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]]. As an element of their imprisonment, they had been reduced to mere [[personality component]]s, so Starscream installed them into abandoned [[World War II]] military vehicles. The transplant caused the vehicles to immediately reconfigure themselves: Onslaught in particular went from being a [[wikipedia:Half-track|half-track]] troop carrier to being a flatbed missile-truck, before turning into a robot. Starscream called them "Combaticons" and announced their names as they transformed, but they didn't recognize him. Nor did they feel particularly indebted to him for their release; in the end, Starscream only guaranteed their loyalty though having given them bodies bereft of [[energy absorber]]s, so they would be dependent upon him to refuel.

Onslaught and his fellow Combaticons agreed to work with Starscream to overthrow Megatron on the promise of being given the vital components. Onslaught worked in capturing two [[Autobot]]s, though he got into an argument with [[Vortex (G1)|Vortex]] over who was responsible for the act. Later, while recharging at a power station, Starscream's brigade was confronted by the Decepticons under Megatron's command. Anticipating that [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] might come into play, Starscream ordered Onslaught and the other Combaticons to merge into the dim-witted [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]]. The Combaticon combiner managed to soundly defeat Devastator, but was in turn defeated by a surprise attack by [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]]. For their treachery, Megatron banished Onslaught, his comrades and Starscream in space on a desolate asteroid. {{storylink|Starscream's Brigade}}

[[Image:Revenge of bruticus 4 changing course.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Megatron felt quite foolish once Onslaught showed him the one loose wire preventing his [[Victory (G1)|space cruiser]] from flying again.]]

After a falling out with Starscream, Onslaught became the mastermind of [[Operation Revenge]] and helped defeat [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s forces on Cybertron. He also used his external backpack and altered the Space Bridge to send Earth into the sun. It didn't work as he was defeated by the allied Decepticons and Autobots. Then Megatron had the Combaticons, including Onslaught, reprogrammed to serve him. Poor guy, can't seem to get a break. {{storylink|The Revenge of Bruticus}}

[[Image:AerialAssault Onslaughtattacks.jpg|left|200px|thumb|In Soviet Russia, [[Aerialbot (G1)|skeet]] shoots back!]]

After that little lobotomy, the Combaticons were deployed to Earth's Middle East to assist in Megatron's scheme to steal military jets, rebuild them into cars, drive them out of the owners' nations, and then rebuild them back into drone jets in friendly territory. Yeah. Onslaught and the other Combaticons attacked the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] when they snooped around, managing to force [[Slingshot (G1)|Slingshot]] to crash into a cave (YAY!). Later, Onslaught and the ground-based Combaticons formed an anti-aircraft screen against an Aerialbot attack on [[Giant Purple Griffin|the Fortress]], then merged into Bruticus, but was rather quickly defeated by [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] before being blown away by the exploding oil wells. {{storylink|Aerial Assault}}

Back in the [[United States of America|United States]], Onslaught led the Combaticons in driving down the road of a random city for no apparent reason until they were confronted by [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]]. Though the Combaticons formed Bruticus, they were blown to pieces by a single shot from the Autobot, with [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] being the only survivor. Swindle later sold the parts of his comrades, but was forced to buy them back for Megatron's next Crazy Scheme. The Combaticons formed Bruticus to operate the orbital disruptor cannon, but was shot by the cannon itself when [[B.O.T. (robot)|B.O.T.]] tampered with it. {{storylink|B.O.T. (episode)|B.O.T.}}

[[Image:FFoD1 DamagedOnslaught.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Stoopid 'Cons never lisssen t'me. I'ma bloody genius, a strategic maschter *hic* maschtermind, but they's still following a [[Galvatron (G1)|looney wit'a big gun]]. Just—it just ain't right. *hic* Aw, I'm gonna over-energize all over my face-plate...]]

By the year 2006, the Decepticons had been forced into retreat on the ruined, burned out world of [[Chaar]]. Onslaught warned first [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] and then the [[Quintesson]]s that the Decepticons would no longer be powerful enough to attack the Autobots directly, but he joined most of the other Decepticons in their attack on the Autobots anyway. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 3}} Much later, [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] sent Onslaught, [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] and [[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]] to assassinate the Decepticon exile [[Octane]]. Onslaught attempted to hold his troops until the proper moment presented itself, but Octane was still able to seek cover before their laser fire could terminate him. The traitor's Autobot partner, [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]], then used his eponymous ability to blind and disorient the Combaticons long enough for the two [[Triple Changer]]s to escape. {{storylink|Starscream's Ghost}}

Onslaught's next mission was to lead the Combaticons in an attack on an Autobot shuttle waiting to deliver [[human]]s to a peace conference. He had a complicated and cunning strategy of misdirecting the Autobots by dressing up like Bruticus and having Swindle painted like [[Hound (G1)|Hound]], but the Autobots were unfazed by the confusion. The Combaticons succeeded in busting up the shuttle a little before being driven away by the Autobots. {{storylink|Surprise Party}} As part of Bruticus, Onslaught watched the Decepticon assault on [[Paradron]], {{storylink|Fight or Flee}} and was infected by the [[Hate Plague]], along with the rest of the galaxy. {{storylink|The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1}}

During the battle for the [[Plasma Energy Chamber]], Onslaught led his Combaticons in the crafting of a giant planetary rocket engine that would be used to propel Cybertron into orbit around Earth. This engine was fueled by the reprocessed body parts of defeated Autobots. Gross. {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 3}}
{{--}}

====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' comic====
[[Image:DecepticonTrailerBrigade1.jpg|left|140px|thumb|"Eleven foot six? Damn you!"]]
When Menasor's baseball stadium/command base was attacked by Superion and Defensor, Bruticus (so by proxy, Onslaught) came to his aid. He quickly took out Defensor, damaging [[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]] and preventing the [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]] from combining again. However, Superion blasted Brawl and Swindle away with his [[Electrostatic discharger rifle|electrostatic discharger rifle]], allowing [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] and [[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise]] to steal their places as Bruticus's legs and fly away with Onslaught and his troops. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 5|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #5}}

In order to make the Autobots look bad, Onslaught joined the Stunticons in destroying factories while wearing the Autobot [[insignia]]. When they were caught, all but him and [[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]] fled the scene, but Onslaught had an ace up his sleeve: Together, he and Motormaster made up the [[Decepticon Trailer Brigade]]! With their spinning "Decepticon Great Wheel" attack, the subgroup leaders held the Autobots at bay for a while, but were eventually defeated by [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]'s "Prime-Magnus Finish Double" kick. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 7|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #7}}

Onslaught then led his Combaticons in murdering a [[Murdered puppy|puppy]]. They succeeded, but the [[Mini Vehicle|Minibots]] got them good. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 8|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #8}}
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====Scramble City====
When the Stunticons were dispatched to hinder the Autobots from constructing [[Metroplex (G1)|Scramble City]], they were attacked by the Aerialbots and did not fare too well. Onslaught's Combaticons arrived to help, and together Bruticus and Menasor easily overpowered Superion. However, Scramble City itself soon arrived and blasted both combiners away. {{storylink|Scramble City: Mobilization}}

====''The Great Transformer War''====
[[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] and the Decepticons kidnapped the scientist Doctor [[Dalton (G1)|Dalton]] to help advance their combination technology. When the Aerialbots and Protectobots arrived to save Dalton, Onslaught and Motormaster merged with [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] in base mode, deploying their fellow Decepticons into battle. The Decepticon combiners then formed Bruticus and Menasor, but were ultimately defeated by their Autobot counterparts. {{storylink|The Great Transformer War issue 1|The Great Transformer War #1}}

====''The Headmasters'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Michitaka Kobayashi]] (Japanese)

Onslaught and the Combaticons participated in an all-out Decepticon attack on Cybertron, {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}} until [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] arrived and drove them away. {{storylink|The Mystery of Planet Master}} Shortly afterwards, [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] set out to find the [[Matrix of Leadership]] and bring it to Optimus Prime, and the Combaticons were among the troops sent out to stop him. They were ambushed by the Protectobots, and defeated when Defensor buried Bruticus in a rockfall. {{storylink|Birth of the Fantastic Double Prime}} Not long after that, the Combaticons defended [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] against [[Blaster (G1)|Twincast]]'s attempted infiltration, but failed when the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] arrived and distracted them. {{storylink|The Great Cassette Operation}}

[[Image:UltraMagnusDies Combaticons.jpg|right|200px|thumb|"Jeez, Galvatron, why put HIM with the Combaticons?"]]

The Combaticons were later part of ''another'' attack on Cybertron, during which they killed plenty of [[Generic|soldiers]] before getting into another fight with Defensor. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 1}} They lost. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 2}} When the Decepticons planted a giant carnivorous plant in [[San Francisco]], the Combaticons and Stunticons were stationed to attack any Autobots who arrived to kill it. {{storylink|Head On!! Fortress Maximus}} Sixshot later sent the Combaticons, [[Terrorcon (G1)|Terrorcons]] and [[Horrorcon]]s to attack an Autobot energy facility in [[Miami]], in order to lure Autobot troops away from [[Autobot City]]. {{storylink|Ultra Magnus Dies!!}} The Combaticons also unleashed Bruticus as Sixshot continued his reign of terror over the Autobots on Earth. {{storylink|The Emperor of Destruction Vanishes on an Iceberg}}

Onslaught was present when [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] held a speech about Galvatron's recent death and took control of the Decepticons. {{storylink|I Risk My Life for Earth}} Bruticus was later part of a small group of Decepticons who tried to lead Fortress Maximus away from the Decepticon base on [[Master (planet)|Master]]. {{storylink|The Zarak Shield Turns the Tide}} The combiner then stood by and laughed as [[Predaking]] sank the luxury liner ''[[Queen World]]'' in the Atlantic Ocean. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 1)}} As Bruticus, the Combaticons participated in the final battle with the Autobots at the North Pole, and retreated into space when Scorponok's energy-absorbing satellite started tearing the Earth apart. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 2)}}
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====''Zone'' cartoon, comic and story pages====
Seeking to create a [[Decepticon Zone]] to counter the [[Micro|Autobot Zone]], [[Emperor of Destruction|Decepticon Emperor]] [[Violen Jiger]] gathered together the [[Nine Great Demon Generals]], upgrading them with powerful new armor and weaponry, then sent them forth to conquer planets. Onslaught was one of those summoned, but only as part of Bruticus. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Zone (story page)|Zone Part 1}} {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Zone (manga)|Zone}} {{storylink|Enter the New Supreme Commander, Dai Atlas!}}

===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
{{noteukonly}}
[[Image:Onslaught Marvel41.jpg|right|200px|thumb|[[Wikipedia:Onslaught (comics)|BEHOLD MY MIGHTY HAND!]]]]
Onslaught is the leader of the Combaticons, ''one of the [[Special Teams]] foretold by the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]]. {{storylink|Second Generation!}}'' Onslaught and his team were first seen on Earth fighting the [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]] inside the Multi-World computer game. They didn't fare too well. Onslaught got "fused by a fireball" from Hotspot. {{storylink|Afterdeath!}}

''Later on, he led his team to kill [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] while he was trapped in a volcano, and Onslaught was the only Combaticon not taken down by a [[Cindy Newell|trio of]] [[Susan Hoffman|human]] [[Joy Meadows|women]]. He would've killed them if the [[Throttlebot]]s hadn't shown up as the cavalry. {{storylink|Ladies' Night (issue)|Ladies' Night}} In response to that humiliation,'' Onslaught and the Combaticons hunted the Throttlebots down. The Throttlebots were trapped in a used car lot and the Combaticons were forced to bid for them in an auction against RAAT and the Protectobots, but Onslaught cut through this by trying to have the lot's owner assassinated. RAAT would get the Throttlebots and the Combaticons were beaten by [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]]. {{storylink|Used Autobots}}

Onslaught's shining moment came when he got to lead a massed Decepticon assault on the Autobots, which came close to wiping them all out. {{storylink|Totaled!}}

=====Marvel UK future timelines=====
''In an alternate timeline after the attack of [[Unicron]] in 2006, Onslaught was still active in 2008 and was one of [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]'s lieutenants when the [[Quintesson]]s invaded. {{storylink|Space Pirates!}}''

====Generation 2====
Onslaught was one of the Decepticons operating aboard the [[Warworld]]. At the death of [[Mindset (G2)|Mindset]], a [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian]] killed light years away, Onslaught was briefly overcome by pain, hinting of a genetic connection between these two. {{storylink|Escalation!}} He was offlined along with the entire Combaticon team by [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] shortly thereafter, and this was never delved into. It is unknown if he was killed or later repaired. {{storylink|Total War!}}

{{note|The origin of the Combaticons in the Marvel Comic is somewhat unclear. The UK comic clearly indicated that the Combaticons were to be newly created on Earth by the Creation Matrix, much like the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] and [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]] were. While this could be inferred from the US comic, it was not explicitly stated. What makes things even more confusing is Onslaught's reaction to the death of Mindset in the Generation 2 comic. The clear inference there was that Mindset had cyber-genetically descended from Onslaught through the [[Reproduction|budding process]], implying then that Onslaught was around on Cybertron millions of years ago when budding was still performed.}}

===Dreamwave comics continuity===
[[Image:Onslaughtwarwithin.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Those Autobots are in for some "wheel" trouble now!]]
Onslaught unleashed his considerable firepower against the Autobots during the Decepticon assault against [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]]. {{storylink|The War Within issue 4|The War Within #4}} {{storylink|The War Within issue 4|The War Within #5}} He and his fellow Combaticons were later upgraded into Combiners. After the Crisis Intervention Accords were enacted, however, it is unknown if Onslaught joined up separately with any faction.

After the Great Shutdown and the peace that followed it, Onslaught and the Combaticons were labeled as war criminals and held in stasis in a penitentiary. That is, at least until Starscream freed them. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}}

When [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]] appeared on Earth, the battered Combaticons were ordered by Starscream to combine into Bruticus and deal with the crazed zealot. It did not end well. {{storylink|Black Sunshine}}

[[Image:Onslaught G1DW routeofallevil.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Well, isn't he a bossy one...]]
The repaired Combaticons were brought to Guadalcanal where they could hone their somewhat lackluster combat skills and listen to Starscream's long-winded aspirations of glory. Starscream ordered them to defeat the magnificent Autobot [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] as a means to train themselves for greater battles. Unfortunately, the Combaticons did not fare well when the crafty Autobot split into his two forms, with Onslaught nearly crushed by the Lynx's right paw as he was issuing orders. After Starscream deactivated Sky Lynx, Onslaught berated his team as buffoons for not paying attention to his battle plan.

This was the least of their troubles, however, as [[Predaking]] showed up as soon after Sky Lynx shut down. Onslaught ordered his men to keep moving and maintain formation so as to remain smaller, faster targets, then as they neared Predaking, formed Bruticus. This encounter did not end well either... {{storylink|The Route of All Evil}}
{{--}}

===Two for the Price of One===
The discovery that Swindle was selling Decepticon weapons on the black market lead Megatron to berate Onslaught on his inability to keep his team member under control. Onslaught asked for another chance to get Swindle under control, but Megatron denied his request, giving [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] the task of bringing Swindle in. {{storylink|Two for the Price of One}}

===''G.I. Joe vs. The Transformers''===
The Combaticons were among the Decepticon army on Cybertron when [[Serpentor|Serpent O.R.]] took control of it. As the new Decepticon leader was assaulted by Optimus Prime, he called Onslaught and several other subgroup leaders to his aid. Prime fought back, grabbing [[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]]'s sword and slashing Onslaught with it. It is unclear if this killed him or merely damaged him, but Onslaught wasn't seen for the remainder of the battle. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 5|The Art of War #5}}

===IDW comics continuity===
Early in the war, Onslaught went with Blitzwing's unit to contain the Autobot forces. He was crushed by the [[Dinobot (G1)| Dynobots]] {{storylink|Endgame}}

[[Image:SpotlightArcee Onslaught.jpg|right|200px|thumb|[[JaAm|Crumplezone! Hump that tank!]]]]
Onslaught led the Combaticon tactical unit assigned to the [[Decepticon Secret Service]] under [[Banzai-Tron (G1)|Banzaitron]]'s command. They were the storming squad which participated in the ground assault raid of the [[Garrus-9]] penal facility, successfully blasting their way through Autobot resistance and capturing [[Pretender Monster|the "gestalt" transformers]]. He was the only one not to wee himself over [[Arcee (G1)|the raging death that is Arcee]], and he berated the other Combaticons for fearing her. {{storylink|Spotlight: Arcee}}

After a deal was negotiated between Arcee and Banzai-Tron, Onslaught and the other Combaticons later helped her in an attempt to recapture [[Monstructor (G1)|Monstructor]] (who had been stolen by [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] and [[Nova Prime|Nemesis Prime]]'s forces), though the insane Autobot disappeared mid-battle. {{storylink|Spotlight: Sideswipe}}

{{note|Due to the truncated nature of the ''[[Revelation (IDW)|Revelation]]'' miniseries, the outcome of this battle is unknown, though it appears that [[Devastator (G1)|the Secret Service won]].}}

A few years later, Onslaught went to [[Earth]], where he was captured by the human organization [[Skywatch]]. He was among the deactivated captives retrieved by [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]]'s team as they searched for more allies for their quest to get off the planet. {{storylink|A Rude Awakening}} When Swindle unleashed Menasor on the Autobots and the combiner was defeated, Onslaught was one of the Decepticons who managed to slip away. {{storylink|Earthworks}}

After reuniting with Brawl and Vortex, Onslaught was hired by [[North Korea]]n leader [[Kim Jong Du]] to lead an attack on [[South Korea]], destroying a South Korean military outpost at the de-militarized zone in the process. He was surprised by a shot from a tank, but Brawl and Vortex quickly joined in and wiped out the human forces. This attack was directly responsible for the [[President of the United States]] declaring any country working with Cybertronians was considered in possession of weapons of mass destruction. {{storylink|International Incident Part 1: "The Land Ironclads"}} None of the Combaticons much enjoyed working for humans, but unfortunately these humans knew more about the production of [[energon]] than they did. Onslaught assured the others he was formulating a better plan, but it was clear that they needed Swindle for these situations. As the Combaticons argued amongst themselves, the Autobots and [[Skywatch]] performed a surprise attack on them. Onslaught and the others were overwhelmed at first, but soon turned the tide after noting that the Autobots were forced to stay in their vehicle modes and that their only air support was a [[Jetfire (G1)|scientist]]. They took out two Autobots and fled back to North Korea without suffering much damage. {{storylink|International Incident Part 2: "Ranks of Bronze"}}

As Onslaught toasted to their victory in North Korea, the Autobots returned and resumed their assault, having dealt with their transformation issue. [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] began wrestling with Onslaught while also telling him that helping the humans with their infighting would only lead to chaos. Onslaught was unimpressed by his words, since the Autobots had their own human "masters" in Skywatch, but found himself defeated when rebellious Decepticon [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] bombed him. {{storylink|International Incident Part 3: "Hawk Among the Sparrows"}} As the battle got close to the [[China|Chinese]] border, the combatants found that the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]] had allied themselves with the Chinese government just like the Combaticons had with North Korea. The Predacons were willing to let them off with a warning, but as they turned to leave, Onslaught decided to shake things up by shooting [[Rampage (G1)|Rampage]] in the back. Mistaking this for an Autobot attack, the Predacons attacked Optimus Prime and the others, while Onslaught presumably giggled to himself. The battle ended when [[Russia]] attempted to nuke everyone present: Onslaught confirmed this via radio contact with the North Koreans. In the end, the Combaticons were set free as the Autobots didn't have the resources to keep them as prisoners, but their alliance with Kim Jong Du ended with a boom as Thundercracker bombed North Korea's energon factories. {{storylink|International Incident Part 4: "All My Sins Remembered"}}

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===''Wings Universe''===
In the early days of the war, Onslaught was a top Autobot cadet at [[Omnihelix Academy]], specializing in battle strategy and tactics. His skill was impressive that he was elected a field leader for the [[Cybertron Elite Guard|Autobot Elite Guard]] straight out of the Academy, acting as head of the experimental new Special Ops Team, the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]]. {{storylink|Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 33|Onslaught's ''Wings of Honor'' profile}}

[[Image:EliteGuardCombaticons TheComingStorm2.jpg|left|thumb|300px|]]

Onslaught and the Combaticons were assembled by [[Magnum]] and [[Sentinel Major]] to take out the various [[Decepticon Warlord|leaders]] of the new Decepticon faction, in the hopes of ending the war quickly. At Elite Guard headquarters they were introduced to one of the other recently minted units, [[Metalhawk]] and his Strike Team. {{storylink|The Coming Storm: Part 2}}

After a short exchange, Onslaught and Metalhawk brought their teams before [[Big Bang]] for their first mission together. It was a rather pedestrian assignment, lending military-grade explosives and know-how to a civilian archeological dig. The mission was primarily designed to smooth some ruffled feathers in the High Council about the Elite Guard in general.

Upon arrival in [[Median]], however, events became a bit more serious. The dig had uncovered Cybertronian construction facilities that indicated an inherent dichotomy in Transformer design. Onslaught personally scoffed at the scientists' theory that this dichotomy could explain and excuse the warlike nature of the Decepticon rebels, but the more pressing find was the second part of their discovery: a spark of unprecedented power called the [[Heart of the Dragon]], allegedly housing the essence of a Transformer whose power levels went off the scale. Decepticon rogues called the [[Stormtrooper (G1)|Stormtroopers]] had learned of the Heart, and were planning a raid on Median to steal it.

As the rest of the Elite Guard did their best to fortify the dilapidated city, Onslaught and Metalhawk grilled [[Flip Sides (G1)|Flipsides]] and the other dig members about the Stormtroopers and any information they had. When the attack came, Onslaught's plan took down the Stormtroopers' advance assault, [[Roadgrabber]] and his exo-shell, by hiding a pit behind an obviously weak part in the defenses as a lure. The Decepticon leader [[Rage]] and his three lieutenants managed to sweep by Metalhawk, however, forcing Onslaught's secondary team to hunt them down. The Stormtroopers split-and-run tactics were enough to keep all the Elite Guard chasing their tails long enough for Rage to grab the Heart, however. [[Terror-Tread]] and [[Cement-Head]], two massive Decepticons held in reverse, then surprised and distracted the Elite Guard long enough for Rage and the others to escape.

The Elite Guard chased the Stormtroopers back to their mobile base, the [[Metrotitan (Zone)|Metrotitan]]. Onslaught and the others managed to make their way inside, where they were confronted by [[Brimstone (G1)|Brimstone]], the reincarnated physical form of the Heart of the Dragon. Despite his small stature, Brimstone still had the ability to decouple molecules with his plasma breath, making him a formidable foe. Onslaught led the Elite Guard in a swift but strategic advance to the rear, giving [[Ironfist (G1)|Ironfist]] time to rig all his explosives for one massive blast. Although Brimstone was still standing after the blast, his outer casing had been damaged enough to let his internal energies rage out of control, destroying the Metrotitan in one enormous blast.

Back at Elite Guard headquarters, Onslaught and Metalhawk made their field reports to Magnum. Despite the unconventional nature of the mission in some regards, Magnum congratulated his men on a job well done. They were deployed again almost immediately for a mission to [[Praxium]]. {{storylink|Flames of Yesterday}}

The Special Ops Team and Strike Team worked so well as a combined unit that Magnum kept them together for several weeks. Onslaught and Metalhawk became close comrades, as did their men, sharing stories about the different warlords they brought down, such as [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]] and [[Blue Bacchus]]. Onslaught was aware that Metalhawk could be squeamish about some of the darker parts of warfare, though, and so he made sure [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] and [[Vortex (G1)|Vortex]] had privacy during their interrogations of a Decepticon prisoner of war.

Onslaught coordinated their next strike against a Decepticon faction leader named [[Shadowcaster]]. Using explosives and fog grenades, the Elite Guard carried out Onslaught's battle plan, forcing Shadowcaster out in the open for the Combaticon leader to take out with a killshot. Despite the mission's success, Onslaught felt something was amiss. Shadowcaster hardly seemed the type to lead a parade, much less a Decepticon splinter cell. Smelling a larger party at work, Onslaught kept the Combaticons out in the field while Metalhawk and the Strike Team returned to base. Onslaught's instincts were right on target, but even they couldn't keep him and his team from being captured by Warlord [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]] and his troops. {{storylink|The Coming Storm: Part 3}}

After being held for some time in a cell behind unbreakable Oan force bars, Onslaught and the Combaticons were inexplicably released by the polite and apologetic [[Falcon (G1)|Falcon]] and [[Vanquish (G1)|Vanquish]]. Although wary of their intentions, Onslaught agreed to follow the Decepticons to Deathsaurus's throne room for a meeting. The silver-tongued Decepticon Warlord then proceeded to sway the Combaticons to his side. He appealed to Onslaught's pride and vanity, innocently mocking how easily the Combaticons were captured by his forces and intimating that all their greatest successes had been alongside the Strike Team, not on their own. After putting Onslaught on the defensive, Deathsaurus proclaimed how ''he'' truly believed in Onslaught's gift for tactics, and was willing to support the Combaticons in a bid to seize power for themselves. After all, how better to prove their superiority and ensure peace on Cybertron than to eliminate the Elite Guard and establish themselves in the Guard's place? Onslaught and his men gave in to their darker impulses and agreed to work alongside Deathsaurus, receiving the upgrades he promised them as well. {{storylink|The Coming Storm: Part 4}}

Sometime later, the Combaticons launched their attack on Elite Guard headquarters accompanied by some of Deathsaurus's [[Seeker (body-type)|Skyraider-Seeker Brigade]]. Onslaught chose not to reveal their trump card until the Combaticons appeared surrounded and defeated by the Guard. He then initiated their combination into the massive [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]], crushing their former commanding officer Sentinel Major in one mighty hand. {{storylink|The Coming Storm: Part 5}} Bruticus killed most of the assembled Guard before [[Dion]] was able to blind the giant, forcing the Combaticons to disengage. Onslaught reacted to Metalhawk standing in their way by simply blowing a hole through his old comrade, and the Combaticons headed back to Deathsaurus's base for repairs, but not before Onslaught promised they'd be back to deal with the Council. {{storylink|The Coming Storm: Part 6}}

During repairs, Onslaught was stunned to learn that Deathsaurus had had it rigged so that the combination into Bruticus could be triggered at Deathsaurus's will. Protesting that it wasn't part of the deal, Onslaught was nonetheless forced to form the torso of Bruticus, though the blinded giant proved difficult for Deathsaurus's Constructicons to control. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 2}} The Combaticons subsequently defended the base against Magnum and the remains of the Elite Guard. Onslaught confirmed to Magnum that Deathsaurus hadn't tampered with the Combaticons' brain modules at all, and they'd turned of their own free will. As they fought the Guard, Onslaught taunted [[Thunder Clash]] while he was grappling with [[Landshark]], much to the latter Autobot's annoyance. Finally he ordered the Combaticons to merge, only them to be blasted mid-combination. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 3}}

To Onslaught's dismay, the culprits were more survivors the massacre at Elite Guard HQ. He agreed with Brawl's sentiment that they should take the opportunity to end some more Autobots and started to give the command to attempt another merge, only to find that Blast Off was inconveniently missing. When Deathsaurus called a retreat, Onslaught briefly considered staying to find Blast Off, and his hesitation allowed [[Flak (G1)|Flak]] to belt him. He and his entire team were subsequently taken captive by the Autobots. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 4}}

In the hands of the compromised [[Gyronian Sentry|Gyronian Sentry Team]], the Combaticons were whisked away to Deathsaurus's fortress, now under Megatron's control. Though Megatron gave them the option, none of them cared to help Deathsaurus, and they were imprisoned and their personality components subsequently interred in the Decepticon Detention Center. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 5}}

==Games==
===''The Transformers'' (PS2)===
{{Note|Onslaught is a non-playable character. He appears among the legion of Decepticon duplicates in the Autobot campaign.}}
{{storylink|The Transformers (PS2)|The Transformers}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:G1Onslaught toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|The Real American Decepticon]]
* '''Onslaught''' (1986, 1990)
**''Team ID number:'' '''C5'''
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-64'''
**''Accessories'': "[[Sonic stun-gun]]" rifle, double-barreled turret, chest shield, ramp, Bruticus chest shield, Bruticus head, left & right Bruticus fists, left & right Bruticus foot stands

: Originally designed for the aborted ''[[Diaclone]]'' line ''Jizai Gattai'' ("Free Combination") and then brought over to the ''Transformers'' toyline, Onslaught transforms into a dark blue and green mobile anti-aircraft truck of made-up origin, armed with a large double-barreled cannon mounted on the flatbed of his vehicle mode. Like all of the original four [[Scramble City (toyline)|Scramble City]]-style combiner team leaders, he can also assume a base/gun emplacement mode with a ramp that smaller Combaticons can use, which can be connected to both the Autobot city [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] (a feature not mentioned in either toy's instructions, for obvious reasons) and to the Decepticon city [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] (a feature only documented in Trypticon's instructions). As with [[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]] and [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]], Onslaught was originally designed to feature a spring-loaded launching mechanism in base mode that would propel the smaller vehicles off him. Hasbro dropped the feature, perhaps [[for safety reasons]], but it was retained on the Japanese edition of the figure.

: In robot mode, Onslaught is armed with a long olive [[sonic stun-gun]] and is accessorized by a small chest plate. The gun can store on his backpack in either mode via two rectangular pegs which hold onto his gun sight. Holes in the side of the gun are, probably coincidentally, just the right size to peg in the smaller weapons from the other Combaticons—a feature that would be canonized only for the later Ruination version of the mold.

:Onslaught combines with the other Combaticon toys into Bruticus, forming the central body component of the super-robot with the addition of a large silver chest plate and Bruticus's head. He also comes with Bruticus's hands and feet.

: The complete set of Combaticons were re-released in the European-market "[[Classics (Europe)|Classics]]" line in 1990; these releases typically have the [[rubsign]] indent removed from the molding. However, Onslaught has his indent intact, and the indent remains even in more recent reuses of the mold.

: This mold was [[redeco]]ed as ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Operation Combination (toyline)|Operation Combination]]'' [[Great Cannon]], ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (toyline)|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Mega-Octane]], and ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' Mega-Octane.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Decepticon/Onslaught/onslaught.htm More information on Onslaught at TFU.info]''

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*'''Bruticus''' (Gift set, 1985, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''D-69'''

:Bruticus, along with the other Combaticons, were included in a [[giftset]] that was only available in [[Japan]] and [[Italy]].

:In 2009, this set was reissued under the ''[[Transformers Encore]]'' line, using the [[retool]]ed molds from the ''[[Car Robots]]'' and ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (toyline)|Robots in Disguise]]'' lines.
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====Encore====
*'''Bruticus''' (Encore Multi-Pack, Japan 2009)
**''ID number:'' '''16'''

:A reissue of the original G1 Onslaught, this is in reality a G1 Onslaught [[redeco]] of the Hasbro [[Mega-Octane]] version of the mold, complete with shortened rifle and all other subsequent mold changes and a plastic chest—however, the Japan-only base mode launcher mechanism was reinstated for this release. The mold also has quite a bit of visible mold wear-and-tear thanks to the inordinate number of times the Onslaught mold has been reused and [[retool]]ed.
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===Generation 2===
[[Image:G2Onslaught toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|[[Tom Kenny|I'm a Goofy Goober, yeah!]]]]
* '''Onslaught''' (1993)
**''Team ID number:'' '''C5'''
**''Accessories'': "Sonic stun gun" rifle, double-barreled turret, missile launcher, 2 missiles, chest shield, ramp, Bruticus chest shield, Bruticus head, left & right Bruticus fists, left & right Bruticus foot stands

: In ''Generation 2'', Onslaught was redecoed in a rather outlandish colour scheme of bright orange covered in purple camouflage, with purple replacing most of his olive and silver colours. The stickers on the back of his truck proudly state that he is indeed Onslaught. In this form he was reputedly "one metamorphin' dude-icus."

:His new spring-loaded missile launcher was taken from [http://www.yojoe.com/action/91/snowserpent2.shtml Snow Serpent] from the ''[[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]]'' toyline, and was the same one used by Gen2 [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] and [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]]. His backpack cannon was [[retool]]ed with a peg-hole to mount this new launcher. This is the only peg-hole on Onslaught to accommodate the gun's smaller peg, rather than its 5mm peg. (In theory the other smaller Combaticons can also hold the rifle, and their weapons can store on Onslaught's backpack now. Not that Onslaught's about to lend his gun to Swindle or Brawl.)

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1994/Decepticon/Onslaught/onslaught.htm More information on G2 Onslaught at TFU.info]''

[[Image:GenerationsG2Onslaught.JPG|right|thumb|300px|"It's not easy bein' cheesy."]]
*'''Bruticus''' (Box set, 2012)
: Part of a giftset [[exclusive]] to [[Amazon (website)|Amazon]] and [[BigBadToyStore]] this version of Onslaught is a redeco of ''[[Fall of Cybertron]]'' [[Onslaught (WFC)|Onslaught]] in ''Generation 2'' colors. As usual, he forms the torso of Bruticus.
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===Universe (2008)===
[[Image:Onslaughtuniverselegends.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Because ''Classics'' Legends [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] was ''super''-popular.]]
*'''Onslaught''' (Legends, 2008)
**''Series'': Classic Series

: Part of the very first wave of ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' [[Legends Class]] toys, Onslaught is a [[redeco]] of Legends Class [[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|''Cybertron'']] [[Red Alert (Armada)#LOC|Red Alert]], transforming into a SWAT-deco'd BTR-90 armored personnel carrier mounted with a top-mounted missile similar to a SCUD launcher. Because apparently SWAT teams now have missiles. Well, maybe in [[Chicago]].... Onslaught uses the Movie-style Decepticon symbol.

: This mold was also used to make [[Transformers: Classics|''Classics'']] [[Perceptor (G1)#Classics|Perceptor]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Decepticon/LegendsOnslaught/onslaught.htm More information on Universe Legends Onslaught at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:UniverseOnslaughtToys-HasbroTakara.JPG|right|400px|thumb|They found your phone number and want to ask you a few questions.]]
* '''Onslaught''' (Ultra, 2008)
**''Accessories'': Shield

:The large ''Universe'' version of Onslaught transforms into a six-wheeled SWAT assault truck with positionable mine-scoops and a rotating double-barreled turret on top. When the button on his rotating turret is pressed, electronic lights in his head and turret flash and one hears either machine gun fire or a siren sound, either of which are continuous if held down. Rolling the vehicle's middle left tire activates a third sound effect of him causing extensive property damage on something unfortunate enough to get caught under his wheels. A looped driving sound will then be continuously played until the tire stops rolling, when a final sound of the vehicle driving away/to a halt is played. He comes with a riot shield, which can either connect to a flip up tab on Onslaught's left arm in robot mode, or store on top of his turret in either mode. The small flap at the top of the shield is used to access the turret's button, either by pressing on the flap itself, or by flipping it open and pressing the button directly. A button on Onslaught's right arm spring-deploys an arm-mounted weapon.

:The robot mode [[Kibble#.22Faux-parts.22|cheats]] somewhat, having a second tow-winch on his belt-buckle immediately below his vehicle hood, while the actual vehicle mode winch splits in two to form his shoulders ([[#Notes|see below]] for more on this). The [[stock photography]] also shows him as [[:Image:Onslaughtuniversetoy.jpg|having black cannons and hands, and being slightly mis-transformed]].

:The Japanese [[TakaraTomy]] version of Onslaught was released in American ''Universe'' packaging as a USA Edition toy. He is redecoed to more closely resemble the colours of the original Onslaught toy and his appearance in the ''Generation 1'' cartoon. His sparkly metallic slate-blue is replaced with swirly metallic teal, the blue paint on his arms and crotch is replaced by a dark greenish-blue, and the silver and dark silver on the sides of his face are replaced by teal. He also has slightly more paint on his face, with his mouth-plate being painted silver.

:The first waves of Onslaughts gave only very brief clips of sound when the button gimmick was activated. (The siren ended up sounding like a set car alarm.) This was changed in the Japanese release and as a [[Variant|running change]] in the U.S. version, so that the gun and siren noises are now restored to their intended full lengths. "MONZO 12782" is [[tampograph]]ed onto the front of the vehicle mode on both versions, a reference by Hasbro to the ever-helpful [[Fandom|fan]] [[User:Monzo|Monzo]] and his birthdate, [[December 7]], [[1982]], or 12-7-82.

:This mold was redecoed as ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Hardhead (G1)#Universe (2008)|Hardhead]] and retooled as ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' [[Clench (G1)#Timelines|Clench]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Decepticon/TFUOnslaught/onslaught.htm More information on Universe Ultra-Class Onslaught at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:Universe-ROTF-toy_Onslaught.jpg|thumb|right|300px|[[Grindcore (G1)|Grindcore]] stole his design, so he stole Grindcore's colors.]]
*'''Bruticus Maximus''' (Box set, 2008)
**''Series'': G1 Series

:The third ''Universe'' Onslaught toy is a [[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' [[Barricade (Energon)|Barricade]], transforming into an eight-wheeled armored personnel carrier with a rear-mounted (non-firing) missile rack that turns and elevates. Amusingly, Barricade has a more Onslaught-accurate colour scheme than ''Universe'' Onslaught. He was only available with ''Universe'' Bruticus Maximus giftset, and when combined with the other Combaticons, Onslaught forms the torso. Almost every Onslaught also has a paint error on the right robot knee, in that there is no paint around the hole immediately below the knee, where there ''is'' paint on the left one. This error is also evident in the box photos for the individual robot mode, but not the combined mode, curiously.

:As the Bruticus Maximus multi-pack was also released under the ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' banner, this toy is identical to ''Revenge of the Fallen'' [[Onslaught (ROTF)|Onslaught]], including the paint error. The mold was [[retool]]ed to make [[Heatwave (Timelines)|Heatwave]].

:The alphanumeric code "C5" tampographed on the front of his vehicle mode is a reference to the original Onslaught toy's American release's team ID number. For a little extra G1 flair, Onslaught's (as well as any other variations of the mold) missile rack in vehicle-mode can be clicked back to be dragged behind, elongating the entire vehicle, similar to the original toy.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/TargetOnslaught/onslaught.htm More information on Universe multipack Onslaught at TFU.info]''

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===Transformers===
*'''Bruticus''' (2012)

:Released exclusively in Hasbro's Asian markets, this redeco of the ''Energon'' Bruticus Maximus set has colours similar to the previous ''Universe'' (2008)/''Revenge of the Fallen'' release, but with a much greater emphasis on G1-accuracy. Onslaught's colour scheme is perhaps the most different to the previous release, being very similar to his Generation 1 toy in robot mode, but is almost completely grey when transformed into Bruticus' torso, to reflect the large grey chest plate on the original Bruticus toy. Additionally, Bruticus' hand/feet/weapons, which were previously cast in translucent coloured plastic are now opaque grey.

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==Notes==
[[Image:Onslaughtmodelsheetshood.jpg|right|160px|thumb|Onslaught's early, unused character model (left) is more toy-accurate, if you ignore a heck of a lot.]]
* Onslaught's ability to combine with Metroplex is due to the fact that both were originally designed as part of the [[Diaclone]] line, where both were presumably part of the same faction. Neither were ever released under the Diaclone brand, as it had long since been overtaken by the Transformers.
* Like the rest of the Combaticons, Onslaught had an earlier, unused [[character model]] which superficially resembles the toy, other than the head design. There are other problems, such as wheel placement, but it's possible the artist of the unused character model was working off crappy source material.
[[Image:EuroClassicOnslaughtPurple.jpg|thumb|160px|]]
* When the unused character model was redrawn into the final character model, it kept the odd wheel placement and gave Onslaught his toy's head, but did some bizarre things with his transformation. Like with many of the other Combaticons' final character models, such as Swindle's, his torso is the bumper, hood, and roof of the vehicle mode flattened out. Years later, Onslaught's Ultra class ''Universe'' toy attempted to replicate this transformation scheme.
* The packaging of the 1990 European [[Classics (Europe)|Classics]] release of the original Onslaught toy depicted Onslaught and the Combaticons in new color schemes—Onslaught himself was mainly purple—despite the fact that the actual toys looked identical to their original releases. While it may never be known for certain, it has been theorized that these colors originated from a packaging printing error rather than a legitimate attempt to [[redeco]] the Combaticons.
[[Image:Universe Onslaught originalsculpt.jpg|right|160px|thumb|The dream is dead.]]
* In the [[commercial]] advertising the Generation 2 Aerialbots and Combaticons, Onslaught is referred to as "one metamorphin' dudicus". It is presently unknown what a dudicus ''is'', or what qualifications Onslaught has met to be the only known one.
* As revealed on Hasbro's ''Transformers'' website,<ref>[http://replay.web.archive.org/20090121131445/http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/universe/default.cfm?page=News/Item&newsid=A795A47F-D56F-E112-48649ACADFB6ADDC Hasbro's preview of ''Universe'' Wave 1's toys]</ref> ''Universe'' Ultra class Onslaught's original prototype featured a larger head that lacked a neck section, and the front section of his vehicle with a (non-functional) winch folded down to become his stomach and waist, as well as more cartoon-accurate sculpted detailing on his waist. However, on the final version of this mold, the winch remains on his shoulders while another winch is molded onto the battery cover as part of his waist.
* In the Wings of Honor continuity the Combaticons are swayed to the Decepticon side by Deathsaurus appealing to their darker natures, represented by one of the Seven Deadly Sins. Fittingly enough, as the leader of the team Onslaught falls to the most dangerous of the Sins: Pride.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Onslaught''' (オンスロート ''Onsurōto'')
*''French:'' '''Abordage''' (Canada, "Boarding")
*''Hungarian:'' '''Cudar''' ("Rascally")
*''Italian:'' '''Destroyer'''
*''Mandarin:'' '''Tú-jí''' (Taiwan, 突擊, "Onslaught"), '''Anslo''' (Taiwan ''Universe'', 安史羅 ''Ān Shr Lúo''), '''Xiji''' (China, 袭击, "Raid")
*''Spanish:'' '''Oslat''' (Spain, [[Classics (Europe)|Classics]] only)
*''Russian:'' '''Osilok''' (Осилок)
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==References==
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==External links==
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Onslaught Onslaught's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

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Relinquishment Clinic

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:''The Relinquishment Clinics are buildings from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

'''Relinquishment Clinics''' are facilities present on [[Cybertron]] that allows customers to temporarily transfer their [[Spark]] into a new [[Body-type]]. Such a procedure only cost... 5,000 [[shanix]]?! What a rip off!

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 comics===
Prior to the [[Great War]], full scale re-engineering was a service only available to the elite [[Cybertronian]] classes. As such, the general masses were fixed in their alt-modes and unable to change them. At this time, these clinics were run by commercial enterprises and charged fees as high as 5,000 shanix to make use of a patented Sparkswap Technology to transfer a Spark into a vacant bodyshell. These bodyshells were from donors which allowed clients to experience life in a completely different alt-mode. At the clinic in [[Apophenia]], [[Senator]] [[Sherma]] was found killed with the [[Decepticon]] symbol marked on his back. [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] disliked the clinics as he felt that they were a nasty form of body tourism.

Four million years later, [[Chromedome]] related a story of his time in mechaforensics before the Great War. This led to some of the crew on the ''[[Lost Light]]'' asking about these clinics as they were no longer part of modern Cybertronian society.
{{Storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|Hangers On}}

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User talk:Detour

2012-09-24T17:19:32Z

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Will you please stop? You've been going in the same fucking circle for what, hours? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:43, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

==Daniel Ross at Botcon 2007==
I'll see your "Attendee", and raise you "Special Guest" with evidence straight from the official Botcon Archives themselves, lol. I confirmed this within the past hour with Mr. Ross via Facebook. Here's the Link to the archived "Special Guest" listing for Botcon 2007. [http://www.botcon.com/botcon07/guest07.cfm]

==Movie Jolt vs Movie Jolt==
Sorry if the post about Jolt not being confused with the previously released Jolt wasn't a good one... Just thought it was sort of a unique case that should be addressed, what with there being two movie Jolts, and unlike the 2007 one which didn't appear in any movies and has since been changed to a different character, also not appearing in the movies, the new Jolt is in the movie. I know that's what disambiguation is for, but I just thought it was an interesting bit of trivia that a movie character's name was already used in the movieverse, though for a different character. (not including the whole movie Arcee thing) -Cliffjumper Prime

==Megatron joke==
The monsters in MMPR always started out human-sized. Then, at some point, Rita throws her staff down from the Moon shouting "Make my monster grow!". The staff lands in the ground and energy shoots out of it, making the monster enormous. The laser effects around Megatron's cannon in that picture look a lot like the staff. Here is a YouTube clip of it: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUelB-OSneY]. Honestly, it's not a big deal to me, but the old joke doesn't really make any sense in the first place. It seems to be a premature ejaculation joke to go along with his cannon firing, but it's not like there's anybody else in the picture for the innuendo to be complete. I think the observation our anonymous editor made about the resemblance to the staff is actually pretty clever. A rare instance of somebody changing a joke for the better, IMO. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 16:20, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
:Huzzah! I have a talk page now! Anyway, thanks for clearing it up... I didn't get the ressemblance of Bandora's staff to the laser blast effects of Megatron's cannons... At least I understood the previous joke, wasn't all that funny but it made sense without the explanation. -[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:54, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

== Revert Revert ==

Slaggit! This is like, the fourth time this has happened to me. I SPECIFICALLY checked with a preview when I was about to make the reversion, and it did NOT tell me any edits had been made since I'd started mine. Apologies for the confusion and annoyance, but I am definitely not doing this on purpose...--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 23:39, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:No worries. I know it wasn't your fault. I'm pretty sure this happened to me at least once as well. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:11, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks. That actually makes me feel a lot better about it.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:23, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

==Treatment==
Hey, it's not uploaded anywhere anymore (but Don Murphy has no issues with us handing it around). I can send you the PDF, but I need your email. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 22:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

==Nunchakus==
His name is "Michelangelo". :) --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 14:38, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
:My bad. Haven't watched TMNT since the original toon. And I was never into Renaissance art or whatever era the artist namesake was from. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:28, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Airazor caption ==

Hi. I was wondering what was wrong with the old caption for the Airazor photo.
:Essentially, there's nothing wrong with the toy so criticizing it like that is pointless. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 08:29, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
::Okay. I didn't think the caption was meant as a criticism of the toy. I thought it was meant to point out that though she was designed as a female figure, she didn't really turn out looking any more female than any other Transformer (excluding Arcee and Thunderblast). But humor is subjective, and what I find somewhat funny might not seem funny at all to someone else.
:::Airazor was designed as a male figure. The toy/character only became female on the insistence of the show writers. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 09:15, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
::::We're talking about the caption for the Transmetal figure. I thought that one was designed from the start to be female.
:::::... oh! Did not realize. Sorry. Ignore me. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 09:51, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

== Blurr ==

He is known to be a member, which should be enough, but he is also known to appear again later in the season, both through the footage from Dubai and the teasers released on the blog. That's why I said that I believed that it ws exception enough if he wasn't a member, it wouldn't need to be moved, but both together seem to be compelling enough.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 16:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:Look at your talk page, anything Dubai-related ''should not'' be discussed here in any capacity. We are not gloryhounds like Seibertron trying to be the first ones to announce every single giant spoiler of every single piece of media. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:49, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
::That's great, but that's not what I am trying to say. He was announced as a character a while ago, before Dubai, and on one of the creator blogs. He's known to be in the Elite Guard, and we even know who his American voice actor is. We've even had him make his first appearance. Dubai just confirmed an episode he reappears in. That's all I'm trying to say - that we know he's in the guard, and we have confirmation from various sources of a future appearance. Hell, that we've listed his voice actor should be confirmation enough.
::And I didn't make the edit to spread spoilers - I did it to add info to a wiki, when the info is confirmed. Yes, we should not be obsessed with news, but neither should we put blinders on and wait until info is months or years old. (Hyperbole, but you get my point)[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 22:05, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

== Rabbicrater Edits ==

Just FYI, the edits HooperX made were capitalizing on the fact that Rabbicrater looks like his name contains the word "rabbi", when in fact it's meant to be most of the word "rabbit". The caption gag of "L'chaim" thus becomes more obvious, though I like the current one better. As for the miscellaneous trivia, I think it's an attempt at a callback to one of the final scenes from the Mel Brooks film ''History of the World, Part 1''. So not TOTAL nonsense.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 14:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:Oh, well I don't know much about Judaism so "L'chaim" is kind of flying over my head right now (and I believe even if explained, the Yaoi Kiss Players joke will still be funnier)... And the misc trivia, well History Of The World Part 1 is one of the Mel Brooks films I have not yet had the pleasure of watching... Even then, it's kind of out of place in the same paragraph as the info about the rabbit on the moon... if Hooper wants to bring it back I would suggest he add another asterisk paragraph to point it out... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:11, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
::Long story short, a robot with the word "Rabbi" in his name, even if it actually has to do with "rabbit" is ripe for Judaism gags. "L'Chaim!" is a traditional exclamation of celebration. Originally, I was just gonna put the lyrics to Hava Nagila up there, but hey. The Kiss Players thing I had to stop and stare at - the two dudes humping are kind of cut out of the frame. But hey, whatever. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 15:15, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:::FWIW, "L'chaim" is a traditional Hebrew version of "Cheers!" and literally means "To life!" I'm up for ethnic humor as much as the <s>next</s> previous guy, but I still find the KP gag funnier in this case. The thought of "Hava Negila" lyrics as a caption does make me grin, though...--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== Real Gear hairdryer ==

Good you took that out for now, I was just too exited to post a unreleased toy for the Movie line, so I did not stop to check if it was real or not. I'm currently looking for more info on it and will put that back up once I found proof.
By the way, what do the read minus numbers next to your edit mean?[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 12:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
-Edit, I fell for a joke! it was just a joke to take the piss of the US toy gun law.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 19:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
:Number of characters (letters and spaces) added or removed from the total article length by this edit. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:45, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
::....what? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:24, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

== Hi ==

I'm listening and I'm sorry [[User:Gyro-Robo|Gyro-Robo]] 22:43, 8 June 2008

== Mayhem Suppression Squad‎ ==

Hello ^^ I removed the [[:Category: Shattered Glass characters]] from the [[Mayhem Suppression Squad‎]] members because [[:Category:Mayhem Suppression Squad‎]] is already under [[:Category: Shattered Glass characters]]. Just like [[Killbison]] only under [[:Category:Breastforce]] which is contained by Combiners, Decepticons, and Victory characters. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 00:49, 22 April 2009 (EDT)

== 1989 Character Models ==
Howdy! I saw the Bumblebee & Jazz pretender models. Do you happen to have higher resolution versions of these images that you'd be willing to share with me? Do you have any more images from this era? (The Ark III needs your help!) --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 21:04, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

== Drift ==

Fine, have it your way! This site could be something awesome for everybody, yet guys like you persist in making it a refuge for your snide insults and negativity. --[[User:Hutch|Hutch]] 03:47, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:If it helps... even some of us here think Detour takes the AHM-bashing to ridiculous extremes. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 04:23, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
::Except a lot of what he yanked out was stuff not even written by me. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:25, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Some of us are OK with desnarking the overly-snarked articles. Thankfully Rosicrucian just redid the removal. :P --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 04:29, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
::::No, he yanked different parts, and rewrote another. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:33, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
Man, just let it go. We're trying to make the trivia sections ''smaller'', y'know.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:00, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

No! Much, much bigger! I'm good with keeping the Poochie theme for SL: Drift's page, but we really, really gotta get a reference to Rurouni Kenshin on a Drift image somewhere down the line! I can't imagine McCarthy not having Kenshin in some corner of his mind when he was creating Drift. "Oh man, he'll be an ex-assassin, with a dark past he regrets, and he carries a special sword! AWESOME!" --[[User:Nu-Priest|Nu-Priest]] 16:20, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

==Vandalism?==
Thanks for fixing my page, I appreciate it. Apparently Mr. Anon didn't take too kindly from me having to up and leave his little "discussion". People gotta go do other things besides argue with somebody on the other side of the computer all day. So do you know how severe punishment is for vandalizing someone's User Page?---[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 22:15, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:In this case, I'm inclined to believe it was a simple accident. The guy isn't really all that wiki savvy, and may have just clicked on your sig and thought it was your talkpage. He's... well, I don't hold any illusions he's going to be a productive user here, but he's on a dynamic IP and isn't outright harmful so I'm not sure what a block would accomplish.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:17, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
::True, I didn't take that into account. I tend to jump to the vandalism claim (or any claim honestly) a little too gung-ho sometimes, and this is one of those times.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 22:27, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:::S'okay. I mean, I'd be lying if I said my cursor didn't hover over the block button on him while I thought about it. Trouble is his two IPs so far don't even seem to share a common subnet, so even an IP range ban wouldn't be viable. If he becomes genuinely abusive lemme know and I'd be happy to play whack-a-mole with his IPs.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:31, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

Sorry, I'm new here. Won't happen again, trust me.--[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 20:59, 12 June 2009 (EDT)

*Z-z-zay, is it no vandalism to undo the another's additionz-z-z-z without any explanation? What's wrong with z-z-z-z-them?--[[User:He-l-en1959|Waz-z-z-zpinator59]] 01:11, 1 December 2009 (EST)
:They didn't make any sense. You should stick to adding to the synopsis/etc. because your English seems to slip right down to nonsensical when you do captions. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 01:47, 1 December 2009 (EST)

==Barricade ROTF DS game==
Why instand of deleting it why dont you fix all my misspelling i have the game and all barricade parts are true.--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
:So... the burden is on ''us'' to fix what you write?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:07, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
:Because neither I nor anyone else on the wiki is your personal spellchecker. If you want your edits to stick, put some effort into it and that includes using proper English. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:07, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

== Ze little one ==

"The identity of ze little one is a bit on the fraught side. In the flyover shot of the barge on which the four Constructicons sit, a red bulldozer (Rampage), a concrete mixer (Mixmaster), a dump truck (Long Haul) and a yellow front-end loader are visible. The yellow front-end loader is the alternate mode of the Constructicon Scrapper, and ze little one's robot mode appears to be the same as Scrapper's. As such, the temptation to just consider this a Scrapper unit is great... except that, after the flyover shot, the yellow loader disappears, and is replaced with a yellow Volvo excavator, clearly marked with a large Decepticon insignia. For the purposes of reducing headaches, we're assuming that the excavator is the "correct" vehicle mode, and that it just happens to transform into a robot mode that resembles Scrapper...even though it's not him. "

I wasn't aware of the decision that had reached on the "Ze little one" page, so I didn't realize that this was the reasoning being used. I can agree with this, and I'm sorry the discussion got so hostile. Have a great week.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 00:30, 16 July 2009 (EDT)

== SG Ark & SG Nemesis ==

I'd just have Derik's bot fix those links along with the rest. I only fixed the others because there was about 2-3 links each instead of the 60+ for those two pages. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 16:32, 6 August 2009 (EDT)

==Thanks for giving me my username==

Seriously best alias ever [[User:Potty Mouth Anon|Potty Mouth Anon]] 01:55, 21 August 2009 (EDT)

== TFA: S.P.'s amnesia ==

You completely sure about that? Seemed like a kind of joke to me - Wasp going through this whole list of humiliation and Sentinel denying it while keeping a straight face.
EDIT: sorry for double posting, my browser's acting a little strange [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 13:26, 25 August 2009 (EDT)
:Except Sentinel finishes the scene by saying "Wait a minute, that was you?" He genuinely doesn't remember, only recalling it then and there. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 13:27, 25 August 2009 (EDT)
::Oookay, my bad. Seems like his ego is powerful enough to erase memories of minor, non-significant beings like Wasp, Bee or Bulky... [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 13:45, 25 August 2009 (EDT)

==Deaths of Optimus Prime "fanon"==
That... wasn't fanon. It was more awkwardly phrased, but consistent with how it was portrayed in the episode. Aerialbots even say, to my recollection, that there are "others at the hanger." Elita-1 was rebuilt. Dion wasn't mentioned. What part of that is fanon, and why did that give you the right to allcaps that dude into submission for it? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:17, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
:Well it explicitly said in the anon guy's contribution way back there that "Ariel and Dion were also rebuilt" (followed by an awkward parenthesis saying Ariel at least). Plus, the episode itself is awkwardly phrased... Slingshot says "There are others back at the hangar, his girlfriend Ariel" as though he actually meant to say "there's another one back at the hangar, his girlfriend Ariel". After Orion is rebuilt as Prime, there's no concern for any "others" and they only speak of Ariel, whom Alpha Trion says he'll "send droids out for". No mention at all that he'd rebuild other casualties of the hangar massacre. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:32, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
::Another interpretation: Slingshot says "There are others back at the hangar, [for example] his girlfriend Ariel." Otherwise, he's not being correct when he says there are "otherS" there. Plural. I'm not saying that Alpha Trion rebuilt anybody other than Prime and Elita, or that we have any evidence thereof. I'm saying what the guy wrote, in that particular revision, was technically correct. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:50, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
:::The ''best'' kind of correct. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:06, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

== the Peter Cullen photo. ==

I know the person who is in that picture. I thought it would be fun depicting him being the nice guy that he is. If you want me to identify where I got the image from, I can link you right to the source. [[User:Unicron|Unicron]] 02:59, 12 October 2009 (EDT)

== editing ==

sorry about the starscream page, but did you really have to edit out '''''everything''''' I did? [[User:Masterman555|Masterman555]] 22:54, 21 October 2009 (EDT)
:Well, yeah. You screwed up the formatting and the order of figures in the toy section, messed with captions and changed all the thumbnails to ungodly huge sizes. It's pretty standard procedure to undo that. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:14, 21 October 2009 (EDT)

== Robot Heroes Thrust eyes==
Thank you for correcting that, I just took an even closer look to the toy and realized I had made a mistake.[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 22:39, 12 November 2009 (EST)

== IDW ==

Oh come on, dude. We can take the piss out of IDW sometimes, but that last edit was a bit much.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:43, 12 November 2009 (EST)
:Not even my words there. But like a lot have said... Continuum is pretty much the straw that broke the camel's back. And really, their own page needs a dose of piss-taking-out too, no matter how slight. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:46, 12 November 2009 (EST)
What Rosi said. No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:52, 12 November 2009 (EST)

==British English spellings==
Please read [[Help:Style_guide#National_varieties_of_English]], it mentions guidelines to spelling that may help you. As Club material is published by a company based in Texas, I went with the American English. Keep British English spelling in the UK articles. [[Special:Contributions/68.61.240.172|68.61.240.172]] 10:06, 21 November 2009 (EST)

==Captions==
Detour, He-l-en has been contributing to the Armada episode articles in a generally positive manner. Please stop reverting her caption changes. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 05:27, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:Positive, yes, but thus far little more than minor summary changes in Armada... followed by large doses of captioning. I'll lay off since you asked me. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:01, 29 November 2009 (EST) (I can still change his captions to different ones if I come up with better ones, though, right?)
::I am trying to handle the situation in a delicate manner; He-l-en is both a new user and someone whose first language is not English, so we cannot immediately expect her to know every facet of our policy right away. Reverting a person's edits without telling them why is not a good way to grow new users. I'm just trying to be courteous. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 06:15, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:::Well, it's not like we don't always revert people who aren't doing anything but changing captions. He-l-en is at least also contributing a little bit of info, but we still generally tell people to leave the captions alone when they're new and just worry about adding actual info to the articles. (And it's not like we don't have plenty of Help guides available to read, either...) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 06:20, 29 November 2009 (EST)
::::''We'' know we change people's captions back, yes, but I am inclined to be more lenient to someone who has only been around for two days... hrm. Actually, I am inspired. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 06:57, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:::::His English seems to have landslided down to "nonsensical" once he started editing captions... Can I revert those, at least? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:59, 29 November 2009 (EST)

== Sideways Part-swapping pics ==

Detour-
I do have pics of the part-swapped Sideways, however I am not sure how to upload them to the Wiki and add them to the page. If you'd like, I can e-mail them to you if you PM Ultrawave over at TFW2005 (that is my account). Unless there is another way to upload them that I am not aware of? [[Special:Contributions/131.191.68.29|131.191.68.29]] 04:20, 7 December 2009 (EST)

Made a Photobucket and uploaded my pic to satisfy your curiousity-- [http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af279/Blitzgear/DSCN0897.jpg] =)[[Special:Contributions/131.191.68.29|131.191.68.29]] 18:44, 7 December 2009 (EST)

== Sari Edit ==
why did you edit my addition to the page? what i typed was factual. --[[User:0utrun|0utrun]] 23:16, 30 December 2009 (EST)

== Blackarachnia "hit it with a shovel" joke ==

Why do you deem it so important to take the joke out? It works, it fills an empty caption space, so why? Seriously, Why? --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 02:09, 6 January 2010 (EST)

== Lockdown's position as a bounty hunter. ==

This isn't something like revealing the gimmicks to a toy or an electronic voice, or even a street date. It's no secret that the ROTF figure is based off a "bounty hunter", you've seen the card say he's a "bounty hunter" regardless if it isn't officially released, is the addition of a category "Bounty Hunter" seriously enough to get you this unnecessarily riled up? It's not like I'm saying something like he's an Autobot sympathizer or something. --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 02:20, 6 January 2010 (EST)

==Captions==
No one appointed '''you''' the master of captioning. You're acting like a goddamn jackboot, so take a time-out. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 02:59, 6 January 2010 (EST)

==My Grammar==
Well i going to tell you why i have bad grammar, i have good grammar BUT i type so freaking Fast in result i make typos, Aslo there some words that i cant spell, aslo i try to slow down but then i start to write fast again -Eagc7
: Then either slow down enough so you can write competently, or don't write at all so we don't spend so much time cleaning up your amazingly-sized mess. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:38, 29 January 2010 (EST)

== Why did you remove my edit? ==

The article discusses fanfiction, so I named two common pairings as an example. It seemed relevant. [[User:CH|CH]] 16:25, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:Because the fandom is so large, fragmented and clique-esque that there's really no way to measure what's relevant/common unless it's completely widespread, as in to the point that even average fans that don't read fanfic are familiar with the concepts used. Megatron/Starscream pairings probably predate Beast Wars itself, Starscream/Alexis was a freakin' epidemic for a time. Those are somewhat "worthy" of mention (in a squicky infamous way). Prime/Mikaela and Bumblebee/Sam, however? Although I'm not shocked they exist, I don't believe the average fans would know for certain that they do. And it isn't really quite as notable (again, Starscream/Alexis being an epidemic), no more than hypothetical pairings like Cheetor/Una or Sky-Byte/Koji.. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:37, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::''Friend of Autobots''
::''Sometimes he talks to me too''
::''My spark fills with joy'' --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:18, 8 February 2010 (EST)

== Right..... ==

[http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Beast_Machines_(cartoon)&curid=15&diff=430695&oldid=430694 What was that weird edit summary all about?] --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:56, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:Look at your keyboard, and look at each letter to the left of the letter I typed. :p --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 08:12, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::It seems we use very different keyboards. All I'm getting is gibberish. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 09:32, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:::It says "something's wrong with my eyes," okay? Big hairy deal. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:38, 27 February 2010 (EST)

== Double dash template ==
Works just 100% fine on Opera and in Firefox and in IE7, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about. The whole purpose it was created was to clear things without creating gaps above the headers. So stop changing it every time I fix the formatting, as you're driving me insane and I'm going to start reverting you every time you do it. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 20:48, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:Well it doesn't work on me in neither IE nor Firefox. So clearly the coding for it must be flawed somehow. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:22, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::IIRC, you're one of the folks using IE6, aren't you? That would explain that part, if so. As for Firefox, it works fine on Firefox for me, so I just don't know what you're talking about there. (I also checked IE7 and it works fine there as well...)
::But in any case, bring it up with Derik to fix any problems rather than constantly removing it, considering the whole reason the template exists to begin with is to solve an issue folks used to be griping about. About the only issue I've ever had is that there has to be no line return space between the dash template and the following header, but that's easily tweaked while editing. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:38, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:::Yeah, I'm one of the five people on Earth still using IE6. I like the button layout better, sue me. But I do have Firefox 3.5.6 and <nowiki>{{--}}</nowiki> does the same amount of jack squattage. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:04, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::::You do realize button layouts are easily changed in most browsers, yes? (And I'd think lots of broken sites with missing features would be a bigger annoyance... having to surf using IE6 at one of my jobs last year was downright painful, it's missing so many useful standards.)
::::But, like I said, never had issues with FF at all. And even if there are, again, have Derik tweak the CSS, rather than unfixing the formatting fixes. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:13, 27 February 2010 (EST)

== *sigh* "first edit ever" ==

fact is I've been editing over the years and adding useful tid bits here and there, but the wiki just can't seem to hold a proper account. so I start a new and get treated like a punk. gratitude for ya.

And yeah, the tone really isn't to my liking. Derek J Wyatt puts down Beachcomber and everyone treats it as canon that the character is not well liked. well I like him! And think the article should be more even handed.

So tell me, how am I supposed to get started here? I can't edit "the funny" as I've been told the last time I tried a permanent account, I can't help to rewrite an article, what do you want from me? When to I earn the right to call out the Beach Comber page for being offensive? --[[User:Stly92|Stly92]] 01:15, March 18, 2010 (EST)

== Jim-Bob's Diner is indeed a reference to James Roberts ==

[[Maximum Dinobots issue 2|Jim-Bob's Diner]] is, in fact, a reference to ''Last Stand of the Wreckers'' co-writer [[James Roberts]]. Nick Roche said it himself [http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=161572#161572]. (At first, '''I''' thought--and was '''very sure'''--it was a reference to '''Jim''' Salicrup and '''Bob''' Budiansky.) --[[User:Jeff39042|Jeff39042]] 19:40, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
:Well then that belongs in the Notes... not a confusing random link in the middle of the synopsis. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:06, 11 April 2010 (EDT)

== Last Dutch Issue ==

The IP Anon [[Special:Contributions/195.240.16.74|195.240.16.74]] removed the "last Dutch issue" sentence from "[[The Void! (US)|The Void!]]" because he was shifting it to "[[On the Edge of Extinction!]]" Now, this may require verification (which is why I'm not undoing your reversal yet), but at least it's not a random act of Anon vandalism.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 11:24, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
:Yeah, I reverted it before he did the rest. I don't know who to ask for verification, though. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 11:50, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
::Looks like the anon was actually [[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] not logged in. Good enough to allow now, or do we still need a citation? Sunjumper mentions on his anon-IP talk page (linked in just above, there) where he saw mention of the last-issue status.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 13:13, 10 May 2010 (EDT)
:::If he's Dutch, sure. You're in the better position to make that call anyway. :p --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:41, 10 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Based on his recent contribution to the BW article, I'd say he his. Well and good, then.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 17:18, 10 May 2010 (EDT)

== Anon-made G1 Cast List ==

I'll grant I didn't do more than a rough glance over it, so I can't vouch for its accuracy, but it WAS in keeping with our formatting for other TV series' front pages. Granted, the cast's much larger and so may be too overwhelming a list for the page, but in principle, it wasn't a ''wrong'' idea. Might be worth adding a notice as to why the G1 TV series page would differ in that respect from other series'.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 15:29, 13 May 2010 (EDT)

== Toy Swapping ==

Look, I am sorry to keep adding tat. I just thought it was important to have in the article, because it was under the same idea. And just so you know, this whole website is full of crappy, big, poorly written sections and just want to help improve some facts not added. So you can take that comment and stick it were it belongs. I just tried to add something.

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== Toy Swapping 2 ==

I am sorry for the previous comment made by myself about the edit. I was in a really bad mood and would not tolerate anything. I will stop trying to edit or fix any articles to fix things that people deleted that I made. I do sincerly apologize. People have been quite rude to me on this website and I was starting to get stressed. Not to mention I have major anger manigment issues. I am quite sorry for my comments.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 12:37, 4 June 2010 (EDT)

== Hey. ==

Yo, be quiet bitch. {{unsigned|TheRex4441}}
:Keep it polite, please. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:39, 24 June 2010 (EDT)

== Prime VAs ==

The editor was right about Optimus & Megatron's VAs, he just didn't have the right source. (It was revealed in a recent BotCon panel.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 14:12, 26 June 2010 (EDT)

==edit war==
If this edit war does not stop in five minutes and people don't stop getting aggressive at each other, all three of you are getting a time-out. The note is pretty pointless, at best it would be only on Prime Soundwave's page. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:28, 4 July 2010 (EDT)

==Translation help==
Hey, Detour. Since you speak French, could you help me by correcting any bad translations I have for the French ''Animated'' episode titles [[User:Interrobang/Crap|here]]? Thanks! [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:24, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
:Done. Egads, epic fail on the dub team on translating Five Servos Of Doom. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:06, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
::Thanks! That was one of the titles that threw me off. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:21, 5 July 2010 (EDT)

== Cloaca joke? ==

Was there something wrong with [[Airazor (BW)|it]]? [[Special:Contributions/72.229.51.77|72.229.51.77]] 15:22, 6 July 2010 (EDT)

== Anon reverts==
When a dude changes something, and you change it back, and he changes it back with comment asking why it's changed... it might be better, if you're going to simply revert it again, to at least leave a comment of your own, explaining why? If he's explaining his actions, you owe that same courtesy back, even if he's in the wrong. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:25, 28 July 2010 (EDT)
:You're absolutely right, and I can't for the life of me remember WHY I didn't do just that. It's been hectic in my neck of the woods these past few days, I apologize. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:02, 28 July 2010 (EDT)
::Come to think of it, I think the reason might've been that I meant to leave the explanation on his talk page, but ended up being sidetracked by other things. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:03, 28 July 2010 (EDT)

== Nice caption ==

<nowiki>:</nowiki>D --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:40, 15 August 2010 (EDT)
:Hah, I was just waiting for someone to add a pic of him so I could throw add that caption. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 03:41, 15 August 2010 (EDT)

== Decepticon Drone ==

I am sorry. I thought it looked simmilar, due to the Red T visor, silver and black head, but not the body.

== [[Katsuyuki Konishi]] and [[Frank Miller]] ==

My joke(s) may be weak, but
#I wasn't violating any [[Transformers Wiki:Caption|caption policies]].
#I uploaded the [[Frank Miller]] image. I deserve a caption or something.
#[[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal#Links that overexplain jokes|Explaining the joke is not funny]].
#(Regarding the link I put at the Konishi caption):
:* A straight quote from Gurren Lagann isn't really very funny by itself.
:* Frank Miller isn't someone you'd think to find on TFWiki. I'd like to show people that he does belong here and how nteresting a coincidence it is, that ''both'' sources of the line contributed to TF. I imagine people reading the link would be like: "Oh yeah, there's also that. Wait, this wiki has an article on F. Miller? What has he got to do with TF? Gonna check that."
But really, I'm more upset about your changing of the caption at Frank Miller for reason number 2. [[User:Item42|Item42]] 10:38, 29 September 2010 (EDT)

== Why are you reverting everything? ==

Why the fuck are you reverting every single edit you see? Is that the only thing you can do? Is is your sole mission to not contribute, but revert everyone else who tries to? Sure, you could just change the singe byte of offending material, BUT NO, YOU HAVE TO REVERT THE WHOLE GODDAMN EDIT. You've been doing this for as long as I've been observing. Also, you've been up my ass about everything the whole time I've been here. Haven't you been blocked before for this kind of thing? --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 10:01, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
:Detour spends a lot of time on the wiki so he often sees poor/vandalistic edits before other editor do. Usually his reversions have been supported by the majority of editors, when he goes over the line Walky puts him in his place. My question is, why are you so sensitive? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:37, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
::If you've been up my ass too, you would see that this is the first time I've exploded over seomthing like this. I have been putting up with shit like this since I started editing here. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 10:47, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
:::I don't know, just looking over your previous edits you seemed rather upset about things on the [[Twitcher F451]], [[Derrick J. Wyatt]], [[Starscream (BWII)]] and [[Shelfwarmer]] pages. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:52, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
* WHY ARE YOU REVERTING EVERUTHING???????????????--[[User:He-l-en1959|Waz-z-z-zpinator59]] 10:15, 7 November 2010 (EST)

If you don´t want people to write in the wiki, please let us know. You reverted some adds I made just because, like the vehicle model of some g1 mini-vehicles, the things on skids robot replica, saying its not the place for a small kinda review (just 3 or 4 lines) If you don't like people doing contributions, purchase this domain and make it yours!!! This is a wiki, based on everyone contributions --[[User:Galvatron77|Galvatron77]]
:"Based on everyone's contributions" doesn't mean "everyone's contributions should stick". Your addition are reviews, these should be objective overviews of the toy. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:58, 4 September 2012 (EDT)

== Dalek ==

For your information, there is incorrect information on that page, that must be changed. The Daleks were never first called "Mark 3 travel machines" that is wrong. The were first called Daleks. The machine the ride in was first a Mark 1 Travel Machines, then a Mark 2 Travel Machine, and finally a Mark 3 Travel Machine. It was Davros who called the machine they ride in Mark 3 Travel Machine, but the creatures are called Daleks, and they were first called Kaleds before being mutated into Daleks. I don't know were the hell you got that from but they are also not cyborgs. They are creatures inside tanks basically. I was correcting that. Get your facts right before delete something I did. Trust me, I know more about the Daleks then you. Thus, my user name is LORD DALEK. That is why I am constantly changing that page. [[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 15:40, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
:Except all that is irrelevant to what was said about Daleks within ''Transformers fiction'', which is what this Wiki is about. And I know plenty about Daleks. Don't assume you're some sort of lone Doctor Who fan on this wiki.--[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:42, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

Fine, I will stop editing the part that is in the comic, BUT THE INFORMATION IN THE NOTES IS WRONG!!! And I also did not say anything about being "a lone Doctor Who fan" I just was saying you undid my edit that was correcting incorrect statements. [[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 15:52, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
: That thing Detour linked to when he reverted you sure seems to think you're wrong. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::I found two sources that go against what LordDalek is claiming. One is a general science fiction Wiki and the other is the TARDIS Index File, the Doctor Who Wiki (which we link Doctor Who-related articles to). --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:58, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::ARGG! I have proof that what you said was wrong. Look, you right, they weren't called Daleks, nor they were Mark 3 Travel Machines. They were called merely mutants. Read this:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davros|His solution is to remove all emotions pertaining to weakness, a category in which he groups such emotions as compassion, mercy and kindness, and place the mutants in tank-like "Mark III travel machines" partly based on the design of his wheelchair. He later names these creatures Daleks, an anagram of Kaleds.][[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:07, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::: Yyyyeah. You seem to be quoting the fictional history at us, while we're talking about the actual behind-the-scenes history of the characters. The comment you removed will stay. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:11, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::::Actually, from a behind-the-scenes standpoint the name Dalek came first. But Who fiction-wise, it was established in a later serial (Genesis of the Daleks, the Daleks's origin story) that the original name of a Dalek was a Mark III Travel Machine. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_of_the_Daleks "At that moment, Davros enters the laboratory, and demonstrates his new "Mark III travel machine", which he later dubs as a "Dalek"."]. If you want the note to focus less on fiction and more on production, I can always tweak it. But it's still a factual note one way or another. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:25, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
Better yet, read this: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalek_variants|For the most part a Dalek is simply a Dalek.Notable exceptions usually refer to rank, such as "Emperor" and "Supreme Dalek", although in Genesis of the Daleks Davros refers to the newly created Dalek casing as a "Mark 3 Travel Machine".] For the last bloody time, Mark 3 Travel Machines refers to the CASING not the actual creature.
[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:14, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::::Listen ItsWalky, when the Daleks first appeared in 1963 THEY WERE CALLED DALEKS. Davros is part of the fictional history, and the real creator of the Daleks was Terry Nation, and he called them Daleks. There. I now have fictional and behind the scenes evidence. The comment must be removed.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:29, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::Why would you ''ever'' want to err on the side of ''removing'' information rather than clarifying it? When is less information better?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 18:15, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

== This place is worse than Nazi Germany ==

SIEG HEIL, DON'T FUCK WITH THE LITTLE TRANSFORMER WIKIPEDIA. WE ONLY LIKE SOME POINTLESS ADDITIONS, NOT A LOT.

Fucking hypocrites. You included, Spanish twit.--[[User:Tommy-Vercetti|Tommy-Vercetti]] 18:13, 8 November 2010 (EST)
:Please mind your language. And this kind of tantrum-throwing won't exactly have people joining your side in the argument. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:18, 8 November 2010 (EST)

== Fanmodes ==

I got the impression, per the "Fan-configurations of toys" discussion in the community portal, that we ''don't'' avoid fan modes, that brief mention of such is okay. [[User:JW|JW]] 11:58, 19 November 2010 (EST)

== Koiter brothers ==

Thanks for catching that spelling error I missed on their names! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:36, 21 November 2010 (EST)

== Grimstone ==

Grimstone's drones' Mini-Con compatibilities are '''not''' mentionned on their own page.

== Ahem ==

Why did you revert my talk page edit regarding the doctor who connection on Talk:Death's Head?
NVM I see, I screwed it up.

== Emperor of Terror Scorponok ==

What's wrong with his edits? He seems to be adding several paragraphs of information, which you delete entirely. I see one or two typos here or there, but wouldn't it be easier to fix those than just remove his large amounts of work whole-hog? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:03, 16 December 2010 (EST)
:Believe me, I've been mulling over that myself, but ultimately, it's more than just typos. A lot of his sentences just don't read right and would ultimately require full rewrites. Figured someone else starting again from scratch would be better than a Cleanup tag... But if I'm wrong in this, sorry. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:23, 16 December 2010 (EST)
:: The English doesn't really read that badly. It's simple, but better than the nothing we have now. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:29, 16 December 2010 (EST)

==New mexico vs. New Mexico==
Thanks, I totally realised the mistake soon after I made the page.
[[User:MadmanFoidart|MadmanFoidart]] 14:46, 10 January 2011 (EST)

== Reverting edits ==

May I ask why you insist on reverting my edits? Especially the one just now about TransTech Megatron's concept design matching almost-perfectly to ROTF Megatron's design, which I see far more-notable than the "Oh look, it's an H-Tank, it atuomatically links to Armada Megatron" trivia listed before it, which you have left alone.

For this particular case, it is not merely my opinion that the two resemble each other more, as a quick glance at the image displayed in the trivia section, let alone what that trivia links to off-wiki, shows a closer resemblance to ROTF than Armada, by far.
[[Special:Contributions/24.143.42.51|24.143.42.51]] 02:41, 27 January 2011 (EST)
:You're right, looks like I jumped the gun at that one. My apologies. Still, it could stand a rewriting to be a little less... dogpiley. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 03:35, 27 January 2011 (EST)

== Mindset ==

You said: ''It says the toy is a retool of Hailstorm, and Hailstorm was designed as the homage.''
If the Hailstorm/Mindset mold was designed as an homage to the original Mindset, then I don't see how the new Mindset could ''not'' be an homage to the original. Particularly since, given the way Hasbro is planning retools these days, the Hailstorm mold was ''always'' intended to be retooled into a Mindset. What is the distinction you're making? [[User:JW|JW]] 20:13, 7 February 2011 (EST)
:No ressemblance to the original character, for starters. If he was "clearly" intended as an homage, the head would surely have carried over the original character's visor at the very least, yes? And the colors, too. G2 Mindset was white, green and grey, this Autobot Mindset is blue and black. And lastly, the faction allegiance. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:22, 7 February 2011 (EST)
This is how I suspect it went down:
#Hailstorm toy was designed.
#[[Kyde]] was all, hey, dudes, that's totally Mindset.
#Hasbro decided to name its redeco "Mindset."
Somewhere in between 2 and 3, Toy Fair probably happened, when Aaron was all about how this toy was totally Mindset.
--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:20, 7 February 2011 (EST)
:Hmm, okay. Point granted. [[User:JW|JW]] 07:22, 8 February 2011 (EST)

== Motormaster ==

I think the one that said Motormaster's size change is right, because Motormaster is the same size as Optimus, while Optimus has the same size as Motormaster in car mode, both of them with their trailers, i think there's size change in there.

--[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 19:24, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
:Yeah, and there's a [[Powertrain|freighter truck]] that transforms into a robot that goes up to Prime's shin. Scale doesn't mean much in Transformers, you have Porsche Jazz towering over Porsche Cliffjumper and Jeep Hound towering over Jeep Brawn and F-15s turning into robots the same size as Lamborghinis. It's a dumb thing to note. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:39, 14 March 2011 (EDT)

== Windcharger ==

"This was removed before because it's false. Don't add it back" How is it false?--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 23:09, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

==Bumblebee==
BOTH of you knock it the fuck off or you're both getting put in a corner for a while. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:45, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

== DOTM Bumblebee ==

Just to clear things up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpqamRtmGRE&feature=feedu the maker of the video says:
because this figure is smaller than any other version of bumblebee, they technically are all brand new parts. They couldn't reuse any other Bumblebee parts cause they no longer would fit.--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 15:33, 25 March 2011 (EDT)

==If you don't like Robert Stack==

You should say so when you're taking funny things he said from the Ultra Magnus page. It's not as if the image even had a caption before, could you not have left it? I ask because since you didn't give a reason, it ''looks'' like you revert all IP edits you see on principle, without checking what was actually changed. Busy schedule? [[Special:Contributions/92.13.226.232|92.13.226.232]] 19:48, 5 April 2011 (EDT)
:Detour doesn't always check properly what an anon added, but he does check. On captions, the rules are very clear though: If you have not contributed to the wiki in a meaningful way, you are NOT allowed to add or change captions UNLESS you have asked permission first on the article's talk page. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 02:00, 6 April 2011 (EDT)

== Inferno (BW) ==

May I just ask why did you undo the caption edit?
: Because you replaced an existing caption with a YouTube link. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:09, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
:: Are YouTubes links forbidden? I do believe I saw them in captions on this Wiki before. --[[User:SymbolsWriter|SymbolsWriter]]
::: Well, first there's the problem of ''replacing an existing caption.'' It's frowned upon. Second, a little '''[1]''' under an image isn't a caption. It's just a link. It's not pretty or witty, it's just an unmarked link. Captions should be captions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
:::: Well, yes, I suspected (now I know for sure) that much (the "frown upon" part), and that's (partially, anyway) the reason I've never edited a caption before. But no, wait, I was pretty sure that when I checked the article after the edit there was blue text "nope.avi" in the caption that was a link to a video, not just "[1]". Or am I missing something? --[[User:SymbolsWriter|SymbolsWriter]] 14:59, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
::::Also, to further clarify things, I'll give this link: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/nopeavi You can even find the screenshot the caption of which I changed in the related pictures there. I hope that article will be clear enough explanation of my motive to change the aforementioned caption. --[[User:SymbolsWriter|SymbolsWriter]] 02:29, 13 April 2011 (EDT)

== Regarding the edits Eagc7 made ==

Apparently you haven't read the [[Megatron (Movie)]] article in awhile, because Eagc7 was just trying to help out. [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Megatron_%28Movie%29&diff=484337&oldid=481886 Xaaron made this edit] almost a year ago, most likely because nobody bothered to fill out that section since 2007. Nobody objected. Eagc7 evidently noticed this and was trying to make the other articles consistent. I think you should have questioned his motives before insta-reverting them. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:37, 12 April 2011 (EDT)

== Mech-Tech page ==

The only reason it was "Just a list copied from the DOTM page" is because he HADN'T FINISHED THE PAGE YET --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 16:08, 12 April 2011 (EDT)
:It shouldn't be a list, it should be a description of the gimmick, like our [[Automorph Technology]] and [[Mech Alive]] pages, that's why it's tagged, it's even explained in the tag. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:14, 12 April 2011 (EDT)

== Fusion Cannon ==

You have undone my edit of Movie Megatron's fusion cannon twice now and I am wondering why? In the 2007 movie at 1:57:13 you can clearly see Megatron shoot Jazz with his fusion cannon from his RIGHT arm. I just watched it, so I know I am correct. If you have a good reason for undoing my edits, let me know, but until then I am just going to keep changing it back. --[[User:BATTOUSAI XD|BATTOUSAI XD]] 02:43, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
:You didn't watch well enough. That's '''Jazz''' shooting Megatron, not the other way around. By contrast, Megatron's fusion cannon is clearly in his left arm, as you see Prime shoot him off balance before he fires, but he turns around, cannon clearly on his left arm, re-aims and shoots. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:05, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
Sorry but you didn't watch well enough. '''Jazz''' does fire first, then '''Megatron''' fires and Jazz goes flying. I haven't watched the battle with Optimus recently, so it may be that Megatron also has a fusion cannon in his left arm as well and can combine both to make them more powerful. --[[User:BATTOUSAI XD|BATTOUSAI XD]] 10:00, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
Maybe it's a different weapons system, but do you have any evidence to back that up? I'm assuming you have finally accepted that Megatron does shoot Jazz with his right arm and you watched the entire scene. The blast was blue like the blast from the combined fusion cannon and his fusion cannon from ROTF ,and it was very powerful, as it sent Jazz flying much in the same way as it did to Optimus in ROTF. Also, he lost his left arm at the end of the first movie, and if it were solely stored in his left arm, it would not have been present in ROTF. It's probably pretty safe to assume that "the Little One," who provided Megatron with parts did not possess a fusion cannon and the "Doctor" did not build a completely new one. IF you can come up with a better arguement than that or provide some official source material, I'll leave it alone, but if you keep using an ambiguous arguement I'll just keep editing the article.
:Do you have any evidence that it '''is''' his fusion cannon? A single blast from said cannon sent Optimus Prime, OPTIMUS PRIME, flying over a full city block into a building, while Jazz barely flew a few feet. But hey, for added evidence, [http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t285/Detour84/TF/vlcsnap-2011-04-26-01h56m39s185.png this] does not look like either [http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t285/Detour84/TF/vlcsnap-2011-04-26-01h57m49s50.png this] or [http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t285/Detour84/TF/vlcsnap-2011-04-26-01h58m11s5.png this]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:01, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
No I don't have any evidence that it is a fusion cannon, but I think there is a better argument for it being a fusion cannon than not, as I stated above. And yes Jazz did only fly a few feet, but maybe that's because the fusion cannon was not at full power because it was not combined with Megatron's left arm. As for the pictures, they don't look anything like the crab claw fusion cannon, yet that is still a fusion cannon. I'm not trying to jerk you around; this is just how I see it and a lot of this is just opinion because Hasbro or whoever hasn't officially detailed anything. Maybe we could ask someone else who edits this Wiki for their opinion on it and just go with that?
:That doesn't work, because as my screenshots show, the fusion cannon is ''entirely part of Megatron's left arm''. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:23, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
How does that explain how his fusion cannon moved from his left arm to his right arm? I don't see the problem with what I wrote, because it leaves the statement you wrote about the fusion cannon being stored in the left arm and it touches on the blast that was fired at Jazz with his right arm. It says nowhere that it '''is''' definitely a fusion cannon. All I wanted to write was that there is a possiblility that his right arm is a fusion cannon, or at least part of a whole. The scene with Jazz is up for interpretation, but I think it should be added so others who read this article can decide for themselves. As far as getting someone else's opinion, you will have to get someone to help with that. I don't know how to ask any of the main editors and I assume you probably do. Just have them comment in this section with an opinion on it.--[[User:BATTOUSAI XD|BATTOUSAI XD]] 1:39, 26 April 2011 (EDT)

==why didnt you jsut fixed it?==
instead of removing all i wrote on the movie Starscream page, why didnt you just Fixed my typos and mistakes? {{unsigned|Eagc7}}
:Because I couldn't even understand what it was you were trying to say. Your poor English goes far beyond simple spelling errors. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:46, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
::Okay, in that case, lets keep a Character Stub template (which i already did) {{unsigned|Eagc7}}

== Dude, STOP. NOW. ==

Abra cannot learn Hypnosis. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 23:19, 28 April 2011 (EDT)
: Seriously, you are now the wiki's worst vandal. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:31, 28 April 2011 (EDT)

== The Autobot Hero ==

I had thought of reverting his edit to Fire on the Mountain the same as you did, but decided against it as the internal link was a redlink. Are we planning on having an [[Andes Mountains]] page? If not, he actually did the right thing. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:13, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
:Well, [[Peru]] wasn't a redlink. Standard seems to be that locations where stuff happens in fiction deserve wiki articles. The Andes mountains do come up in both Fire in the Mountain and the Japanese PS2 Transformers game, so the location deserves a proper TFWiki article, IMO. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:17, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
::And the Kid Stuff audiobooks have the Andes partially destroyed in "Storms of Destruction". [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:48, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
:::Thanks for that! Added the link to it too. I'd love to make a page for it (being the huge Mysterious Cities of Gold nerd that I am) but since I don't have access to any of the material they show up in, there isn't much I can do. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:56, 6 May 2011 (EDT)

==Editing==
I read the "Help:Editing" page.-[[User:Dirgeor|Dirgeor]] 20:02, 19 June 2011 (EDT)

== Crowbar ==
I'm quite not sure why you removed my photo of Crowbar. Can you please tell me?
:Because it's a horrible shot that barely shows Crowbar at all, if that's even him. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:05, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
It is him, you can clearly see Crankcase in another shot. I can understand that the shot wasn't great, but it's better than an inaccurate representation of him in Cyberverse form.

== Crisscross "Error" ==

Rather than risk a revert war, I'll simply discuss the matter here first.

If the package was delivered to the garage while Arcee was away for some unknown length of time, why should she question its origin? I still say someone from MECH could have broken into the garage, delivered the package, and locked up on their way out, thus accounting for the package's presence. (Yes, it's something of an error not to explain it in-story, but I think that's at least a feasible explanation.)--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 02:05, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
: That's how I read the sequence of events. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 04:01, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
: You make some good points. But after even two watchings the whole thing still felt weird. When you stop and think about it, only Jack or June could've taken care of the package... If Arcee assumes June has... she'd know Arcee wasn't in the garage. So... why's she so casual about the package? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:06, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
:: My postman leaves packages in my garage all the time if I'm not there to take delivery, honestly. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 05:01, 29 June 2011 (EDT)

== Editing ==
Can we please discuss our debates before filing pages for deletion? I have a strong argument. Please just listen to me.
-[[User:PurpleCyclops|Caleb]]
:No. You don't. Preliminary names are just that, '''preliminary'''. We're not calling Mirage "Rush", and the same applies to Crowbar and Hatchet. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:18, 3 July 2011 (EDT)
Rush isn't the final name for Mirage. Hatchet is a typhoon fighter jet. Crowbar is a Carbon Motors E7 Police car. The trio in the film are suburbans. This is not the case of renaming them. This is the case of '''different character'''.
:No, this is the case of '''different altmodes'''. Do we consider Sideways anyone but Sideways? Because his toy sure as hell wasn't a screen-accurate Audi, and didn't even use the proper color scheme. You're being utterly ridiculous. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:38, 3 July 2011 (EDT)

I was saying that the characters were most likely different since they hadn't the right altmode or altmode size, since Hatchet would be much too big to be a suburban, if he was a jet, and Crowbar would be too small if he was a police car. Sorry bout everything though, I agree, my argument '''is''' ridiculous.

== Joke ==
By reference, I meant a reference to something. A joke. Jokes aren't meant to be useful. And this wiki is full of them. One on almost every image. Which isn't very useful, when they could have a informative caption. But that's one of my favorite things about this wiki. It's humor. Once again, I find you reverting anything I post. Can't I just add a simple joke that can appeal to some people, without attracting the attention of you?
:It's humor, yes, but it's still a wiki. Signal to noise ratio is the key here, and smashing a bad joke about train delays in the first sentence of Astrotrain's bio isn't the way to go about it. Signal to noise, the wiki must be funny but also informative. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 05:21, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

You do have a point. I agree it is still a wiki, and it's not that informative. However you kind of missed the joke. A popular quote in a T.V. show about trains from my childhood was when the person would scold the train, he would say "you've caused confusion and delay". Nothing to do with train delays.

== Spam ==

Does [[User talk:Dynamic|THIS]] count as Spam?--[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 15:39, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
:Not really. Spam is more people and/or bots trying to scam people with advertisements. Dynamic's talk page doesn't fall into that. I'm not sure what he's trying to do, either he's trying to share an easter egg with the wiki or he's trying to spark a discussion, either way it's not really spam. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:16, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
== Volume Number ==
Woops, sorry about that. After that anon troll was just going around changing tiny things on the year pages, I ended up with a bit of an itchy trigger finger. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:13, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

== Dave Fennoy Picture ==

Hi There. Could you find a picture of [[Dave Fennoy]] for his page?

== Doctor Arkeville in sound and furry ==

When the Hot Dog Bot rebels the man he is serving has the distinct rounded triangle jaw and mad scientist like hair style of G1 villain Doctor Arkeville. can you tell me anouther human character in either show has one of these characteristics yet he has both of them, it is pretty clear he is a homage to the classic decepticon allied human please stop reverting this
:Yeah, and I suppose Doc Brown is a Doctor Arkeville homage too? It's very common for old men to their hair up top, have their hair lose color and get a longer jaw. Just because one incidental character sported those features doesn't automatically mean HOMAGE. Please stop grasping at straws. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:37, 10 October 2011 (EDT)

:Doc Brown did not have a triangular rounded jaw and as for the hair several scientist in fiction have it as homage to Albert Einstein. However I am not aware of any other transformers characters that this hair style. Plus I have never seen or heard of anyone getting a longer jaw when they got older. It is not grasping at straws as much as seeing a comparison somebody made between the two and adding it here.
::No metal hat & hand = No Arkeville. --Thy2k, not logged in

== Found cosmos art from official artist! ==

I found some art of cosmy! should we replace the main page now? its from the official artist's deviantart page, sides we got most of the moving violations character photos from devianart too. for cosmos art see link http://tehkoreandude.deviantart.com/gallery/24312266#/d3lnp2f --User:Jazzerprime
:That's not official Transformers art. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 05:31, 11 October 2011 (EDT)

== Tell me ==

Do you actually look at people's edits before you revert them? --[[User:TheOnlyChoice|TheOnlyChoice]] 04:13, 16 October 2011 (EDT)
:Yes. And you only had two edits the last one a month ago, before suddenly declaring yourself the lord of what's sucky or not. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:22, 16 October 2011 (EDT)

== It's true. ==

If they hadn't fallen in because of the surge, five seconds later, it would have turned them into transmetals and the lava wouldn't have had any more effect than a hot bath. If that doesn't describe irony, nothing does. [[Special:Contributions/70.77.36.81|70.77.36.81]] 20:40, 30 October 2011 (EDT)
:I don't recall lava immunity being a Transmetal power. Just because Tarantulas survived it doesn't mean everyone else can, nor do it indicate that survival was directly due to Transmetalness. Also, noting it purely out of "irony" is like saying it's ironic Ironhide's shuttle was on an Energon run because if they weren't low on Energon they would've survived the Decepticon attack. It's silly and pointless. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:44, 30 October 2011 (EDT)

== Can you Remove ==
Can you remove "Luis Daniel Ramírez" page, since it seems this guy Arturo Castañeda is going to be Jack Darby voice in the spanish dub of Prime {{unsigned|Eagc7}}
:Sorry, I'm not a mod or an admin here so I don't have the power to do this. I'll tag it for deletion, though, if that help. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:28, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

== image tags ==

There are always stupid tags to images on a number of pages could you please stop putting these corny and rediculous tags. {{unsigned|108.66.204.65}}
:If by "tags" you mean the captions, then I recommend you familiarize yourself with [[Transformers Wiki:Caption|the wiki's policies regarding captions]]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:56, 10 November 2011 (EST)

== Arcee ==
Thank you very much for restoring that caption. Much appreciated. [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] 03:34, 26 November 2011 (EST)

== "Double Bruticus" ==

And the reason to remove the comment was...?
: The wiki in general does not cover unofficial fancreations. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:58, 8 February 2012 (EST)

I guessing you think you have everything in Transformers prime, right?

== Steeljaw/Red Alert link ==

Huh. Didn't even see that link between the two. Thanks. Should the minor edit to [[Final Transformations]] be reverted to the Red Alert article as a whole, or keep the link to Red Alert's G2 (and only Marvel) appearance?
[[User:Pakopako|Pakopako]] 22:57, 29 February 2012 (EST)
:No, linking it to the G2 section was a good idea, since it refers to that specific event. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:09, 29 February 2012 (EST)
::Heh. Apologies about that. My connection is stuttering at the moment. [[User:Pakopako|Pakopako]] 00:36, 1 March 2012 (EST)

==Why do you delete my...?==
excuse me why do you delete my dreadwing image?
:Because it already existed on the wiki in its proper place. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:39, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

why have you deleted my leadfoot foto?[[user:Shockwave1704]]
:Because it has no reason to be in the Notes section. The Notes section is not a place to arbitrarily put whatever image tickles your fancy. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:39, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

the other user has told me to put the image there [[user:Shockwave1704]]
:Andrusi said '''maybe''' if you followed proper [[Transformers Wiki:Images|image guidelines]] that it ''might'' be able to go in the Notes section, not that you could just put it in the Notes section. And even then, as he himself admits on the Leadfoot page, he was wrong on that count. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:51, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

so i can't add this image nowhere[[user:Shockwave1704]]

are you french? --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 12:18, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
: No, he's Canadian.....--[[Special:Contributions/81.164.215.61|81.164.215.61]] 12:19, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

ah ok, because there are some sentences in the france article that could be offensive --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 12:31, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

In World War II, France surrendered in the face of foreign invasion, leaving the population to suffer under a genocidal dictatorship for four years. This is seen as a source of hilarious jokes by some other nations.
[[User:Shockwave1704]]
:I don't really see how that's offensive. If anything, it reflects poorly on the aforementionned "other nations". =p --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:50, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
::yes, but in this article French army = cowards--[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 15:01, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
:::No, the article says that people from other nations like to make jokes about the French being cowards. That is not the same thing as saying that the French are cowards. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:06, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
::::i disagree with you, but if you think so...--[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 15:26, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
:::::I really think this is a symptom of your level of English comprehension. To a native English speaker, the paragraph you quoted says exactly what I said it does. It is hard enough working in a language that you do not speak fluently, dealing with all of the humor on this site will make it even harder on you as many of the jokes simply won't translate. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:21, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

in my opinion humor is a symbol for every country. Italian people have got their humor, French people have got their humor, English people have got their humor. So it's possible that Italian people think your humorism is a little offensive. --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 08:57, 15 March 2012 (EDT)
:No, it's your tenuous grasp on English that's making you miss the joke. Now drop it. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 10:12, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

what? no, in my opinion you don't appreciate our humor because we are very different. I don't want to criticize you, but everyone can think how he wants --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 10:25, 15 March 2012 (EDT)
:I haven't seen any instances of your humor anywhere. It's just clear you don't even ''get'' the damn joke. So drop the subject. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 10:33, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

Bah --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 10:37, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

== Jokerberg ==

I love your Jokerberg statement when you edited [[Daran Norris]].--[[User:Ultra-Humanite|Humanite]] 22:18, 20 March 2012 (EDT)
:Thank you! --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:15, 20 March 2012 (EDT)

Thanks for fixing the help page. XD [[User:Jacktransformerdude|Jacktransformerdude]] 00:47, 21 March 2012 (EDT)

== "Useless padding" ==

I sort of chuckled when I saw this line from you, good on you for having a sense of humour about it. :)
I couldn't help but notice, friend, that about a third of the information on this entire Wiki is "useless padding", meaningless trivia put there for no reason other than to impart interesting information to the reader. And of the remaining information, about a third of ''that'' is flat-out jokes inserted simply to make people laugh. Looking over the rest of that one page, off the top of my head, Toronto being the biggest city in Canada has absolutely nothing to do with Transformers, and the relationship between 'there are no Target stores in Canada' and Transformers is so tangential that it's just about on the same level. So I ask you, why did you ''really'' remove that information from the page? Really, if I don't know, I won't be able to avoid the mistake in the future. [[User:Deusoma|Deusoma]] 22:19, 7 May 2012 (EDT)

== Periods and Spaces ==

Oh, it's no trouble, friend. I just copy the text of the page from the edit window into notepad and then find-and-replace ". " with ". " to fix it up. Then I just copy it back over and go on with my regular correction of spelling errors and grammar checking. It's easy, and it's my pleasure to improve the quality of the Wiki. :-)
Also, some interesting reading for you to back up my position: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2011/01/space_invaders.html [[User:Deusoma|Deusoma]] 23:43, 9 May 2012 (EDT)
:You're missing the point. It DOESN'T improve the quality of the wiki because it ISN'T WRONG. The link you provided is to an OPINION PIECE. It is the policy of this wiki that we don't care whether you use one space or two after a period and that there is no need to change one for the other. It's kind of like how we do not have a preference between US and UK spellings. Also, "friend", you are coming off rather smarmy and condescending here. That is not likely to get many people to back your position.--

== Subscription service figures ==

I had put those on the 2012 listing because that is what the [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] page said. Should we change that page? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:02, 10 May 2012 (EDT)

== Faceless tags ==
I'm not the one removing them. [[Special:Contributions/TFMAN|TFMAN]] is. I just remove what he puts there in place of them. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 22:40, 18 May 2012 (EDT)
:Use the Undo button, that way you undo all the things he's changed, rather than just removing what he's added without putting back what he's removed. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:41, 18 May 2012 (EDT)
::Alright, will do. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 22:43, 18 May 2012 (EDT)

== Vocab ==

I have a pretty good vocabulary. Plus the captions were for a lot stuff I remember growing up as a kid. Good Times Huh? The Picture for [[Tim Curry]]'s page was just Wow. I have never seen that movie before.[[User:SirSpoonwave|SirSpoonwave]] 02:16, 24 May 2012 (EDT)

== Allspark Addendum ==

Thanks for help on the SG Animated pages. I'm used to making minor edits, and I don't have much experience on templates besides the bunny rabbit page. ([[Special:Contributions/184.56.31.203|184.56.31.203]] 19:01, 31 May 2012 (EDT))

==IDW==
If i'm doing such a bad job, why don't you do those articles then? I've been at it forever, trying to edit that thing. Ed
: It would help if your additions were about the characters the article is about. Most of your "How Ratchet Got His Hands Back" additions to First Aid's page were about Ratchet! And it didn't mention at all that First Aid was promoted to Chief Medical Officer, which is the most important thing that happened to First Aid in that issue. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:06, 4 June 2012 (EDT)

== Animated toy/merchandise section ==

I added "Fast food kids meal toys" subsections to [[Megatron (Animated)]] and [[Starscream (Animated)]] pages. With that, the pages got the same "Toys" layout of [[Optimus Prime (Animated)/toys|Optimus Prime (Animated)]] and [[Bumblebee (Animated)]], with an Subsection for each "toyline". If the subsection is wrong, it need to be removed from OP and BB pages. If the subsection is OK, why you removed they from Megatron and Starscream page?

And why you put the toys as available "only in Mexico and Venezuela"? I am in Brazil and have to eat some McDonalds Happy Meal to have my toys. Probably the toy was available in all Latin America (but this is a guess, for sure it was available in Brazil).
:The subsections are present on Bumblebee and Prime's pages because they have a '''huge''' amount of toys and merchandise to their name, which requires extra subsections. By contrast, Megatron and Starscream's numbers are more manageable, hence why the fast food premiums aren't categorized the same way. You'll notice Megs and Screams don't have subsections for Activators, Deluxe, Voyager, etc. either.
:As for why I only said Mexico and Venezuela, that's because that's all that's listed on the [[List of Transformers restaurant promotions]]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:39, 9 June 2012 (EDT)
::Makes sense, but Starscream have the "Universe (2008)" subsection. Don't know why the "Fast food" subsection hurts, but will not re-add it, I was only trying to make the toy sections of each character more or less with the same layout/design. Before I waste my time, I have a lot of Merchandise itens to add for Megatron and Starscream (more for Megatron than for Starscream), it's OK to create an Merchandise section? I'll edit the [[List of Transformers restaurant promotions]] to be more accurate and include Brazil there. --[[User:Sharpfinger|Sharpfinger]] 20:48, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

==Shattered Expectations reference in Triage==
It's a rather obvious nod to it. If that's not considered a reference than you might as well not consider the "Beast Machines" line in TMI as a reference. {{unsigned|108.11.36.231}}
:Shattering expectations is a commonly used term, hence why it was fan-applied to Shattered Expectations proper. It's not a reference. Stop saying it is. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:34, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
::If by "fan-applied" you man "the writers of the comic actually named it that", sure. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:49, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
::But it's almost completely out of place. That's like removing the thing about Hardshell saying "yes" in Toxicity by that logic.
:::It's not out of place, he just shattered Soundwave's visor, and that's the joke. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:09, 10 June 2012 (EDT)

== how to act towards others ==

I think for someone who acts like they own the wiki you should think about how you talk to poeple. As a member of the wiki you should show a little respect towards your fellow members start deleing peoples posts with out saying why and then starting personal attacks is a big no you make yourself look bad and the wiki.[[User:Phantom|Phantom]] 13:45, 22 June 2012 (EDT)
:I started no personal attacks. You, on the other hand, called me an a-hole. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:55, 22 June 2012 (EDT)
I think he's just suggesting stuff, right? (lobythelegend 13:49, 22 June 2012 (EDT))

:I know you're angry, but why is that it seems that you're always in a bad mood to everyone who messes up in the Wiki? lobythelegend 13:46, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

== Accents ==

Ah, I had forgotten that. May I suggest this, then:
:The ''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]'' film in 2007 takes the alternate tac that Optimus Prime and his troops learned Earth languages — including English ''and'' Mandarin Chinese, according to the novelization — by studying the [[Internet]]; presumably, each Autobot chose the accent that best fit their natural voice. In contrast, the Decepticons generally use the Cybertronian language. This distinction is lost in the sequels, in which all Autobots and Decepticons speak English even when, canonically, they have had no prior contact with the language.
'cause we really need to get rid of the paragraph that is there now.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 15:01, 29 August 2012 (EDT)

What do you have against what I posted about Octane's cameo in 'The Ultimate Weapon'?

== PCCs ==

According to Hydra Choppmaster and Rollermaster ARE Blazemaster and Straxus. Only the minions/Targetmaster little guys are new characters. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 13:19, 24 September 2012 (EDT)

Straxus (G1)

2012-09-24T13:50:00Z

76.28.76.206: Wording tweak. Just sounds more "him"

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{{disambig3|Straxus}}

:''Straxus is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[Image:Straxus.jpg|right|350px|thumb|Mercy is not dispensed here, fools, only Pez.]]
A ruthless, fearmongering dictator, Lord High Governor '''Straxus''' is a threat to all under his rule—including his own inner circle. From his throne in [[Darkmount]], there are none in [[Polyhex]] who do not feel his crushing influence. Straxus's word is law, unbound by reason or facts, and can and will change from thought to thought. Do not try to appeal to his sense of pity; he has none.

A brutal powerhouse, he is more than able to enforce his policies, usually with a deadly blow from his battle axe. So terrible is Straxus that even [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] gives the dictator his space, allowing the small-minded tyrant to terrorize his corner of the globe. Megatron may have designs on the galaxy, but in Polyhex, Straxus rules.

He is sometimes known as '''Darkmount'''. After his conversion to [[Power Core Combiner]] technology, he took the code name '''Rollermaster'''. As a PCC he commands a [[Targetmaster]] partner with the [[Spanner (G1)|familiar]] name of [[Spanner (United)|Spanner]]

{{quote|'''Mercy''' is not dispensed here, fools... only '''death!'''|Straxus|"[[The Smelting Pool!]]"}}

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Marvel Generation 1 comics====
{{noteukonly}}
[[Image:Straxusholdscourt.jpg|left|300px|thumb|He's got a metal palm tree and he's not afraid to use it!]]
''Following the assassination of the Decepticon warlord [[Trannis]] by the [[Autobot]] commando unit, the [[Wrecker]]s, Straxus assumed his position as [[Decepticon leader]] on Cybertron.'' {{storylink|Cybertron: The Middle Years!}}

Straxus would oversee a horrifically brutal reign, having his men hunt down neutrals, Autobots, and [[empty|the destitute]] so they could be melted down in [[smelting pool]]s and their metal reused by the Decepticons. Even other Decepticons weren't safe from his brutality, with him battering his own Executive Officer [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] when he was in a mood.

When a Decepticon transmission beamed from the planet [[Earth]] circa the Earth year 1985 reached Cybertron, Straxus immediately arranged for the capture of the scientist [[Spanner (G1)|Spanner]] so that a [[space bridge]] between the worlds could be constructed. Attempting to locate Spanner, the Autobot spy [[Scrounge (G1)|Scrounge]] learned of this plot, but was captured by [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] and brought before Straxus, who maliciously destroyed his unique recording-device arm before consigning him to death in the [[Smelting pool|smelting pools]]. In turn, [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] came searching for Scrounge (against orders), was captured and brought before Straxus, and sentenced to the pools. There he discovered the dying Scrounge, was given the information he had acquired, and escaped with the aid of his Autobot friends who had come looking for him (against orders). {{storylink|The Smelting Pool!}}

[[Image:Straxusaltmode.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Yeah, but where does the axe go?]]The space bridge was subsequently completed, but its earliest tests reduced Straxus to rage when a malfunction caused the death of [[Crosscut (Decepticon)|Crosscut]], and he sent [[Crosscut's successor|another unfortunate]] to instant death in an attempt to figure out what had gone wrong. In an act of petty brutality, he threatened Shrapnel that he better sort the problem out soon because ''he'' was going to be sent to clear the rubbish off the Bridge! As the tests went on, an Autobot raiding party planted explosives within Darkmount, destroying it, and sending an enraged Straxus after their heads. With the bridge unattended, Blaster intended to destroy it, but was confronted by Straxus in a one-on-one duel. Crippling Blaster with his axe, Straxus was duped into accidentally severing the bridge's fuel line, destabilizing its teleporting arch, through which Blaster then kicked Straxus, destroying him. {{storylink|The Bridge to Nowhere!}}

[[Image:Straxushead.jpg|left|180px|thumb|Teletraan I, Rita's escaped, recruit a team of teenagers with attitude...no, er wait...]]
''However, while Straxus's body was reduced to ash, his head was salvaged and placed in a life-support pod that allowed him to continue on in his position as leader.'' {{storylink|...The Harder They Die!}} ''Soon after, when [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] arrived on Cybertron, Straxus immediately set in motion a scheme to restore himself to life, calmly following Megatron's directions to hunt down [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]], who had arrived on the planet with him. ''{{storylink|Under Fire!}}'' After Prime carried out [[Decepticon fuel store|several successful raids]] alongside the Wreckers, Megatron began to grow more and more unstable, and Straxus more and more impatient with his deranged houseguest. Despite the warnings of his technicians as to the "unpredictability" of the machinery involved, Straxus made the final step, activating a device that would exchange his and Megatron's minds, giving him a body once more. Megatron resisted the transfer, however, leaving the two minds within Megatron's body, fighting for dominance, each one in control at a different moment. The other Decepticons, in particular [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]], soon noticed their leader's problems and began to scheme about how to handle it. When in battle with Prime and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], Megatron prepared to unleash his destructive [[antimatter]] powers; in order to save the [[Polyhex Decepticon stronghold]], Ratbat activated the space bridge, teleporting the three Transformers back to [[Earth]].'' {{storylink|Resurrection!}}

[[Image:Maulers_mauled.jpg|right|thumb|250px|This story is full of awesome Megatron moments and Straxus retroactively stole them all. He ''is'' evil!]]
''Before this could occur, having failed to oust Megatron's mind, Straxus activated his contingency plan, "[[Project Re-Birth]]," and his consciousness fled into a body he had specially prepared—a duplicate of Megatron created from a "[[hapless trooper]]", complete with a copy of his brain patterns, beneath which Straxus's personality lay dormant. '' {{storylink|Two Megatrons!}}'' Upon hearing of the true Megatron's seeming death aboard the space bridge a short time later, the project technicians activated the clone, sending it to the sewers beneath [[London]] where it came into conflict with a small group of Autobots, [[Action Force (team)|Action Force]] and [[Centurion (Marvel)|Centurion]]. Straxus's mind had yet to take over the clone at this point, and it genuinely believed itself to be the true Megatron, but it was soon dealt with when an oil tank explosion sent it and Centurion tumbling into the Thames river.'' {{storylink|Ancient Relics!}}

''Some time later, seeking a weapon to use against the deranged future Decepticon [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] recovered the Megatron clone, also believing it to be the genuine article, only to find that "Megatron"'s mind had retreated into itself. Shockwave subjected the clone to the [[psycho-probe]], intending to force "Megatron" to face his fears—but instead, Straxus emerged, intending to fight Megatron's fears for him and finally take control of the body. Megatron fought back, however, ripping the mental image of Straxus to pieces and finally taking over their shared mind.'' {{storylink|Salvage!}}

''This Megatron killed [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] in a test run'' {{storylink|Dry Run!}} ''and then proceeded to battle Galvatron, but ceased his attack after hearing from the future Decepticon that: a) Stasrcream would throw him out a ship in 2006, and b) Galvatron would kill him. Amused and seeing the two had a lot in common, Megatron agreed to join him.'' {{storylink|Altered Image!}} ''He helped Galvatron battle Autobots of the present and future in the "[[Time Wars]]", massacring [[Wrecker]]s and the [[Mayhem Attack Squad]], but was soon put off by the growing madness and pointless destruction that his ally was causing. The Megatron clone opted instead to [[Decepticon heavy transport|return]] to Cybertron.'' {{storylink|Time Wars}}

''On Cybertron, he effortlessly dethroned the decadent ruling [[Triumverate]] and took control of the Decepticons on the planet once more... ruling confident in the knowledge he'd become Galvatron, and ''this'' time he'd do things ''right''!'' {{storylink|The Fall and Rise of the Decepticon Empire.}}

[[Image:TFUK TwoMegatrons Suicide.JPG|left|150px|thumb|No, no! Aim away from the face!]]
''Soon, however, he began to suffer from nightmarish visions of the lives lived by both the trooper whose body became his, and of Straxus, just as the true Megatron—having recovered his memories after a period of wandering amensia in the [[Dead End (place)|Dead End]]—attacked his base.'' {{storylink|Mind Games}}'' The two Megatrons battled, with the true one revealed the clone's nature to him, and all at once, everything made sense to the clone. Along with this revelation, another immediately arose—Straxus's mental defeat was a sham, and he had been dwelling within the clone's mind all along, steadily growing in power as the clone weakened. Straxus made one final attempt to seize control of their mind, and the clone committed suicide, blowing his own head off with his [[fusion cannon]], rather than allow Straxus to win.'' {{storylink|Two Megatrons!}}

''It is possible that in the original un-altered pre-Time Wars timeline, the Straxus-Megatron clone may have been the Megatron transformed into Galvatron, but the shifting nature of the timelines makes this open to debate at best.''

''All very simple, isn't it?''

{{note|The true nature of the Megatron clone was not revealed until the story which depicted his death. This was because, for all of the clone's other stories, he was regarded by characters, readers and writer [[Simon Furman]] as actually being the ''real'' Megatron, having survived his supposed death in the US comics. The US comics, however, continued to treat Megatron as pushing up daisies, so when Simon Furman took over writing that title and penned Megatron's return, he needed an explanation that would reconcile Megatron's continual appearances in the UK title with his lack of activity in the US. Relegating the Megatron of the UK comics to a clone was that explanation, revealed in UK-exclusive strips which ran concurrently with the reprints of Megatron's US return.}}

=====Marvel UK future timelines=====
The Megatron clone would terrify a young Hot Rod in [[1990]] by willingly risking the lives of loyal Decepticons to flush out a [[Warmonger|double-agent]], and then muse it would've been easier to just murder everyone. Later, he would wage a [[Decepticon Civil War]] against [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] and [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] {{storylink|Aspects of Evil!}} , where he no longer threw fits at his troops because he knew he could look forward to a future as the unbeatable Galvatron. {{storylink|Trigger-Happy!}}

He then become Galvatron by [[2006]] and, by not fleeing to Earth's past, conquered Cybertron! Well, it seems to be him, it's very confusing. If it was him, he then got stepped on by [[Unicron]] in [[2010]]. {{storylink|Aspects of Evil!}}

====Marvel ''Generation 2'' comic====
[[Image:WarWithoutEnd-Straxus.jpg|right|thumb|150px|His weapon gets less threatening with each appearance.]]
[[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] referred to Straxus as one of the petty, small-minded dictators he left in charge of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] when he left to start the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian Empire]]. {{storylink|War Without End!}}

====''Universe Classic Series'' toy bios====
During Straxus's rule over Polyhex, he put a lowly, unknown warrior through an excruciating rebuilding process, tortuously reforging him into the very image of Optimus Prime. Through forcible data uploads and brainwashing, the Decepticon was imbued with memories and skills culled from many sources, giving him much of Optimus Prime's knowledge and combat algorithms. However, Straxus perished before he could complete this "[[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Nemesis Prime]]", and his creation was left without a framework with which to process the mental injections. Straxus's legacy was this mad wraith haunting the back alleys of Cybertron, hunting down Autobots and Decepticons alike.<ref>[http://tformers.net/g/albums/9893/DSCF2738.JPG Nemesis Prime's ''Universe Classic Series'' on-package bio]</ref>
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===IDW Generation 1 comics===
Straxus (not a "Lord")<ref>[http://simonfurman.wordpress.com/2008/06/17/wheels-on-fire/#comment-3627 "WHEELS ON FIRE"—simon furman: the blog]</ref> was part of the crew of the first ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'', which left Cybertron long before [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s uprising. {{storylink|Spotlight: Cyclonus}}

[[Image:Straxusidw.jpg|right|250px|thumb|I may or may not be here in subsequent panels, depending on how the artist feels today.]]
Later, at the beginning of the war, as the Decepticon movement was just beginning to reveal its true menace, Straxus returned to Cybertron for some reason to work security at the [[Kaon Security Headquarters]]. When the Decepticon [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] was brought to trial before an emergency session of the [[Kaon Council]], the accused started a prisoner revolt. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 4|Megatron Origin #4}}

Millions of years later, Straxus had apparently returned to the [[Dead Universe]]. When [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] was abducted on [[Gorlam Prime]], Straxus implanted a device in his brain that would make him a sleeper agent for the Dead Universe crew.<ref>According to the [http://idwpublishing.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=82441#82441 script] for "[[Spotlight: Hardhead]]".</ref> {{storylink|Spotlight: Nightbeat}}

[[Image:SpotlightDoubledealer Straxus Transforms.jpg|left|thumb|250px|And yet, surprisingly few kitbashes from Cybertron [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]]...]]
After [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] secured the [[Nega-Core]] and activated its guardian, Straxus initiated the [[Expansion]] with [[Nova Prime|Nemesis Prime]] and the rest of the Dead Universe crew. {{storylink|Spotlight: Cyclonus}}

Later, Straxus attacked Earth with [[Grindcore (G1)|Grindcore]]. His job was to bombard the surface in his jet mode and then operate an [[energon]] drill while Grindcore set up a [[space bridge]]. {{storylink|Spotlight: Doubledealer}}

Straxus and Grindcore soon had to defend this site when an Autobot team led by [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] stormed it, trying to prevent the Expansion. [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] ended up holding off both of them at the same time while the other Autobots slipped by. The [[Benzuli Expanse]] anomaly was soon sealed off, and unable to survive without their connection to the Dead Universe, both Straxus and Grindcore simply... ceased functioning. {{storylink|Spotlight: Sideswipe}}

===''Wings Universe''===
Straxus was one of a number of [[Decepticon Warlord]]s who fought for territory in the early days of the Great War. With the threat of the [[Cybertron Elite Guard]], the Warlords formed a war council. During one meeting, they reviewed footage of the Elite Guard wiping out some of [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s men, and discussed ways of ridding themselves of the Elite Guard. At the next meeting of the council, [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]] sent along his lieutenant, [[Falcon (G1)|Falcon]], with a box containing an important message. The message turned out to be a bomb, which killed the council members present. {{storylink|A Team Effort}}

===''United''===
[[Image:FierceFightingOnPlanetNebulos-StraxusDecepticons.jpg|left|thumb|200px|...I was an unstoppable tyrannical warlord who answered to no one, once...]]
A [[nano-virus]] that afflicted most Autobots save the [[Targetmaster]]s and the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] required [[Ricochet (Headmasters)|Ricochet]] to lead a team to [[Nebulos]] for an anti-virus. However, the nano-virus was merely a ploy by the Decepticons to draw out the Targetmasters and Headmasters to abduct their [[Nebulan]] partners, so when the Autobots arrived on Nebulos, Straxus was waiting for them with a considerable army! His army quickly fell into disarray, unfortunately, when Straxus was singled out and defeated. He returned to his [[Thunderwing (G1)|master]] to beg forgiveness. {{storylink|The Fierce Fighting on Planet Nebulos}}
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==Toys==
===Generations===
[[Image:Generationstoy-Darkmount.jpg|right|thumb|300px|You're welcome.]]
*'''Darkmount''' (Deluxe, 2010)
**''Accessories'': Pick-axe/cannon, missile launcher, machine gun, smoke grenade launchers

:Part of wave 2 of ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'', Darkmount ("Straxus" was [[trademark|unavailable]]) transforms into a half-tracked [[Wikipedia:Self-propelled artillery|self-propelled artillery]] inspired by the [[Wikipedia:G6 howitzer|South African G6 Rhino]], as well as a tripod-mounted [[Wikipedia:Howitzer|howitzer]] platform called a "battle station".

:In vehicle mode, the turret can rotate and the barrel can raise. Initially it was planned to have him interact with Scout Class figures who could man his "fortress mode". The remainders of that idea are the otherwise pointless handlebars that end up on his knees in robot mode.<ref name="generations11">TakaraTomy staff interview in ''[[Transformers Generations 2011]]'' vol. 1, [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/428825-takaratomy-staff-interview-generations-united.html translation at TFW2005].</ref> In robot mode, the cannon barrel becomes his trademark pick-axe weapon, while his smaller weapons (featuring [[C joint]]s) can clip onto various compatible rungs, bars and tubes sculpted onto the vehicle or robot. Despite his portly robot form, and his alternate half-track mode, his tech specs list his speed rank as 10.

:"M17" is written on his vehicle mode, referencing "[[The Smelting Pool!|Marvel #17]]", the comic issue in which Straxus first appeared. His head is designed with a light-piping feature but it is not utilized.

:The mold was [[redeco]]ed into ''Shattered Glass'' [[Straxus (SG)|Straxus]] and [[retool]]ed into ''Generations'' [[Skullgrin]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Decepticon/Darkmount/darkmount.htm More information on Darkmount at TFU.info]''
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===United===
[[Image:United_Straxus_Toy.jpg|right|thumb|300px|TakaraTomy will collect the fee...''personally!'']]
*'''Straxus''' (Deluxe, [[December 25|12-25]]-2010)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''UN-10'''
**''Accessories'': "Battle axe"/cannon, missile launcher, machine gun, smoke grenade launchers

:Darkmount was redecoed for inclusion in the first wave of [[TakaraTomy]]'s ''[[Transformers United|United]]'' toyline, and even released under his original name. He now sports a new color scheme that replaces much of his grey plastic and ''all'' of his red plastic with more dark blue and new light-blue pieces, apparently shooting to emulate Straxus as he was colored in his [[The Bridge to Nowhere!|second Marvel appearance]], drawing particular inspiration from the [[:Image:MarvelUS-18.jpg|cover]] of the issue. And he's got his dead, black eyes!

:Besides the black eyes, Straxus features additional paint on his face as well as his crotch plate and knee flaps.
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==Notes==
[[Image:StraxusChangesColors.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Consistency is not dispensed here, fools, only GAFFES!]]
*For some reason, Straxus's colors changed drastically between the two issues he was in for the US comic. Also, sometimes between panels.
*With that in mind, Darkmount's color scheme (with its red biceps and gold chest) is based on an amalgam of his appearances. Specifically, a unique color arrangement that appeared on the cover of the fan-publication "The Obscure Omnibus" that super-fan [[User:Monzo|Monzo]] gave the Transformers team for reference.
*Not only was Straxus's color scheme unstable, but so was his weapon design. In his first issue, it looked like a pick-axe, but when Straxus battled Blaster in his second issue, it had evolved into a scythe.
*According to Hasbro copy writer [[Forest Lee]], Straxus was mentioned in Comic-Con 2008 [[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Nemesis Prime]]'s bio entirely to make [[David Willis]] happy. Incidentally, Willis colored the cover to the fan publication mentioned in the second note, so he's probably on Cloud Nine right now.
*Darkmount's instructions show [[Skullgrin]]'s robot head. It's [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|becoming]] [[Black Shadow (Victory)|a]] [[Axor|trend]].
*''Universe'' Nemesis Prime's backstory was certainly inspired by the Megatron-clone plot, but their relation to each other in-fiction is unclear. A straight reading would suggest that Straxus merely had more than one clone project in the works. However, if one assumes that the ''Classic Series'' bios are meant to follow the ''[[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club (magazine)|Classics'' comic]], then Nemesis Prime would be Straxus's ONLY known clone project in his universe, since the UK comics are not part of that continuity. However, it wouldn't be the [[Mutant (G1)|first time]] a [[The 4,000,000 Year Itch!|UK-only plot thread]] managed to make it into a ''Classics''-related product...
*It's likely that [[Eric Holmes]] didn't consult with [[Simon Furman]] when he had Straxus as a cameo in ''[[The Transformers: Megatron Origin|Megatron Origin]]''. (Straxus must have been mentioned in the script, since he shows up in [http://mmatere.deviantart.com/art/Megatron-Origins-4-pag-02-80058403 Marcelo Matere's version of the page.]) Since he was never mentioned by name in ''Origin'', and he has a different design in the later Spotlights, it can be easily retconned that the character in ''Megatron Origin'' was [[Bluster|"Straxus's brother"]], since Straxus was supposedly in the Dead Universe at this time.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Straxus''' (ストラクサス ''Sutorakusasu'')

==References==
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==External links==
*[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/jhiaxus/uscomics/straxus.htm Straxus at the Obscure Transformers Website.]

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Blaze Master (G1)

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{{disambig2|the Micromaster helicopter from Generation 1|the helicopter from ''Revenge of the Fallen''|Blazemaster}}
:''Blaze Master is an [[Autobot]] [[Micromaster]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:BlazeMasterBoxart.jpg|right|300px|thumb|He loves the smell of napalm in the morning. And afternoon. Evening... late night...]]

The [[Air Patrol]] has never really gelled as a team, and a good chunk of that is because of '''Blaze Master'''. It's not just because his cynical nature clashes with the ever-optimistic [[Sky High (Micromaster)|Sky High]]. Frankly, he scares them, and a lot of other Autobots as well. His favorite battle tactic is to fly slow and low over [[Decepticon]] positions, presenting himself as an easy target. Once he's sure they can see him, he releases his signature weapon, a napalm-like corrosive spray that incinerates anything it doesn't melt first. Then he just hovers there, watching his enemies die slowly and painfully... chuckling all the while. He can use the spray in robot mode too, but the "death from above" method is by far his favorite.<ref>''[[Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' #1</ref>

After his conversion to a larger form using [[Power Core Combiner]] technology, he took the code name '''Choppermaster'''. As a PCC he is teamed with a [[Targetmaster]] partner named [[Firebug (United)|Firebug]].

==Fiction==
===Dreamwave comics continuity===
When the newly created Micromasters first took up sides in the Cybertronian Wars, Blaze Master chose to join the Decepticons. Working alongside [[Barricade (G1)|Barricade]] and his [[Race Track Patrol]], he attacked the Autobot Micromasters when they attempted to rescue the damaged [[guzzler]] named [[Roadbuster (G1)|Roadbuster]]. {{storylink|Destined for Nothing}} Rumor had it, though, that he was discontent with the Decepticon way of doing things. [[Powertrain]] and [[Highjump (G1)|Highjump]] were discussing how to bring Blaze Master over to the Autobot side later that night in [[Little Iacon]]. {{storylink|The Gray Race}} When [[Venom (G1)|Venom]] and his Decepticons took over and occupied the area, they demanded the Micros turn against each other on that formerly neutral turf. At that point, Blaze Master had definitely had enough: he tossed aside his allegiance and told the Decepticon guzzlers to slag off. Venom then had [[Barrage (Insecticon)|Barrage]] shoot down the Micromaster. The Autobot [[Fixit (G1)|Fixit]] was seen caring for the fallen Blaze Master after that. {{storylink|Recipe for Hate|Recipe for Hate}} Venom and his men took the Autobot Micromasters into custody back at Decepticon headquarters, but [[Big Daddy (G1)|Big Daddy]] and the [[Hot Rod Patrol]] broke them out soon after. Blaze Master got his revenge on Venom shortly afterwards, stabbing the larger robot through the torso with his energo-rotors. {{storylink|Victims of the Revolution}}

===IDW comics continuity===
Blaze Master was one of the legions of [[Dead Universe]] Micromasters who pursued [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]] and [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] on [[Gorlam Prime]]. {{storylink|Spotlight: Hardhead}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:G1-toy BlazeMaster.jpg|right|300px|thumb|]]
*'''Air Patrol''' (Micromaster Patrol, 1990)
**''Accessories'': Rotor blade

: Blaze Master transforms into a Sikorsky MH-53 Pave Low helicopter. His rotor blades can detach and be mounted as a melee weapon on his robot-mode arm. He was only available as part of the [[Air Patrol]] set with his teammates [[Eagle Eye (G1)|Eagle Eye]], [[Sky High (Micromaster)|Sky High]] and [[Tread Bolt]]. The rotor blade is the same mold as the one used by [[Tracer (G1 Decepticon)|Tracer]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1990/Autobot/BlazeMaster/blazemaster.htm More information on Blaze Master at TFU.info]''

===Zone===
*'''Sky Patrol Team''' (Micro Transformer team, 1990)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''C-352'''
**''Accessories'': Rotor blade

: The Air Patrol was released as part of [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s ''[[Transformers: Zone (toyline)|Zone]]'' series with no notable changes from the [[Hasbro]] release.

==Notes==
* Most—if not all—of the toys pictured in the 1990 Hasbro ''Transformers'' catalog are unfinished prototypes or mock-ups, and a variety of differences from the final product are apparent. In Blaze Master's case, there are some minuscule sculpting differences...and the complete lack of robot-mode [[Paint operation|paint application]]s.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Blaze Master''' (ブリーズマスター ''Burīzu Masutā'')
*''French:'' '''Brasero''' (Canada)
*''Italian:'' '''Elicos'''

==References==
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Straxus (G1)

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{{disambig3|Straxus}}

:''Straxus is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[Image:Straxus.jpg|right|350px|thumb|Mercy is not dispensed here, fools, only Pez.]]
A ruthless, fearmongering dictator, Lord High Governor '''Straxus''' is a threat to all under his rule—including his own inner circle. From his throne in [[Darkmount]], there are none in [[Polyhex]] who do not feel his crushing influence. Straxus's word is law, unbound by reason or facts, and can and will change from thought to thought. Do not try to appeal to his sense of pity; he has none.

A brutal powerhouse, he is more than able to enforce his policies, usually with a deadly blow from his battle axe. So terrible is Straxus that even [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] gives the dictator his space, allowing the small-minded tyrant to terrorize his corner of the globe. Megatron may have designs on the galaxy, but in Polyhex, Straxus rules.

He is sometimes known as '''Darkmount'''. After his conversion to [[Power Core Combiner]] technology, he took the code name '''Rollermaster'''. As a PCC he is teamed with a [[Targetmaster]] partner with the [[Spanner (G1)|familiar]] name of [[Spanner (United)|Spanner]]

{{quote|'''Mercy''' is not dispensed here, fools... only '''death!'''|Straxus|"[[The Smelting Pool!]]"}}

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Marvel Generation 1 comics====
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[[Image:Straxusholdscourt.jpg|left|300px|thumb|He's got a metal palm tree and he's not afraid to use it!]]
''Following the assassination of the Decepticon warlord [[Trannis]] by the [[Autobot]] commando unit, the [[Wrecker]]s, Straxus assumed his position as [[Decepticon leader]] on Cybertron.'' {{storylink|Cybertron: The Middle Years!}}

Straxus would oversee a horrifically brutal reign, having his men hunt down neutrals, Autobots, and [[empty|the destitute]] so they could be melted down in [[smelting pool]]s and their metal reused by the Decepticons. Even other Decepticons weren't safe from his brutality, with him battering his own Executive Officer [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] when he was in a mood.

When a Decepticon transmission beamed from the planet [[Earth]] circa the Earth year 1985 reached Cybertron, Straxus immediately arranged for the capture of the scientist [[Spanner (G1)|Spanner]] so that a [[space bridge]] between the worlds could be constructed. Attempting to locate Spanner, the Autobot spy [[Scrounge (G1)|Scrounge]] learned of this plot, but was captured by [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] and brought before Straxus, who maliciously destroyed his unique recording-device arm before consigning him to death in the [[Smelting pool|smelting pools]]. In turn, [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] came searching for Scrounge (against orders), was captured and brought before Straxus, and sentenced to the pools. There he discovered the dying Scrounge, was given the information he had acquired, and escaped with the aid of his Autobot friends who had come looking for him (against orders). {{storylink|The Smelting Pool!}}

[[Image:Straxusaltmode.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Yeah, but where does the axe go?]]The space bridge was subsequently completed, but its earliest tests reduced Straxus to rage when a malfunction caused the death of [[Crosscut (Decepticon)|Crosscut]], and he sent [[Crosscut's successor|another unfortunate]] to instant death in an attempt to figure out what had gone wrong. In an act of petty brutality, he threatened Shrapnel that he better sort the problem out soon because ''he'' was going to be sent to clear the rubbish off the Bridge! As the tests went on, an Autobot raiding party planted explosives within Darkmount, destroying it, and sending an enraged Straxus after their heads. With the bridge unattended, Blaster intended to destroy it, but was confronted by Straxus in a one-on-one duel. Crippling Blaster with his axe, Straxus was duped into accidentally severing the bridge's fuel line, destabilizing its teleporting arch, through which Blaster then kicked Straxus, destroying him. {{storylink|The Bridge to Nowhere!}}

[[Image:Straxushead.jpg|left|180px|thumb|Teletraan I, Rita's escaped, recruit a team of teenagers with attitude...no, er wait...]]
''However, while Straxus's body was reduced to ash, his head was salvaged and placed in a life-support pod that allowed him to continue on in his position as leader.'' {{storylink|...The Harder They Die!}} ''Soon after, when [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] arrived on Cybertron, Straxus immediately set in motion a scheme to restore himself to life, calmly following Megatron's directions to hunt down [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]], who had arrived on the planet with him. ''{{storylink|Under Fire!}}'' After Prime carried out [[Decepticon fuel store|several successful raids]] alongside the Wreckers, Megatron began to grow more and more unstable, and Straxus more and more impatient with his deranged houseguest. Despite the warnings of his technicians as to the "unpredictability" of the machinery involved, Straxus made the final step, activating a device that would exchange his and Megatron's minds, giving him a body once more. Megatron resisted the transfer, however, leaving the two minds within Megatron's body, fighting for dominance, each one in control at a different moment. The other Decepticons, in particular [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]], soon noticed their leader's problems and began to scheme about how to handle it. When in battle with Prime and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], Megatron prepared to unleash his destructive [[antimatter]] powers; in order to save the [[Polyhex Decepticon stronghold]], Ratbat activated the space bridge, teleporting the three Transformers back to [[Earth]].'' {{storylink|Resurrection!}}

[[Image:Maulers_mauled.jpg|right|thumb|250px|This story is full of awesome Megatron moments and Straxus retroactively stole them all. He ''is'' evil!]]
''Before this could occur, having failed to oust Megatron's mind, Straxus activated his contingency plan, "[[Project Re-Birth]]," and his consciousness fled into a body he had specially prepared—a duplicate of Megatron created from a "[[hapless trooper]]", complete with a copy of his brain patterns, beneath which Straxus's personality lay dormant. '' {{storylink|Two Megatrons!}}'' Upon hearing of the true Megatron's seeming death aboard the space bridge a short time later, the project technicians activated the clone, sending it to the sewers beneath [[London]] where it came into conflict with a small group of Autobots, [[Action Force (team)|Action Force]] and [[Centurion (Marvel)|Centurion]]. Straxus's mind had yet to take over the clone at this point, and it genuinely believed itself to be the true Megatron, but it was soon dealt with when an oil tank explosion sent it and Centurion tumbling into the Thames river.'' {{storylink|Ancient Relics!}}

''Some time later, seeking a weapon to use against the deranged future Decepticon [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] recovered the Megatron clone, also believing it to be the genuine article, only to find that "Megatron"'s mind had retreated into itself. Shockwave subjected the clone to the [[psycho-probe]], intending to force "Megatron" to face his fears—but instead, Straxus emerged, intending to fight Megatron's fears for him and finally take control of the body. Megatron fought back, however, ripping the mental image of Straxus to pieces and finally taking over their shared mind.'' {{storylink|Salvage!}}

''This Megatron killed [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] in a test run'' {{storylink|Dry Run!}} ''and then proceeded to battle Galvatron, but ceased his attack after hearing from the future Decepticon that: a) Stasrcream would throw him out a ship in 2006, and b) Galvatron would kill him. Amused and seeing the two had a lot in common, Megatron agreed to join him.'' {{storylink|Altered Image!}} ''He helped Galvatron battle Autobots of the present and future in the "[[Time Wars]]", massacring [[Wrecker]]s and the [[Mayhem Attack Squad]], but was soon put off by the growing madness and pointless destruction that his ally was causing. The Megatron clone opted instead to [[Decepticon heavy transport|return]] to Cybertron.'' {{storylink|Time Wars}}

''On Cybertron, he effortlessly dethroned the decadent ruling [[Triumverate]] and took control of the Decepticons on the planet once more... ruling confident in the knowledge he'd become Galvatron, and ''this'' time he'd do things ''right''!'' {{storylink|The Fall and Rise of the Decepticon Empire.}}

[[Image:TFUK TwoMegatrons Suicide.JPG|left|150px|thumb|No, no! Aim away from the face!]]
''Soon, however, he began to suffer from nightmarish visions of the lives lived by both the trooper whose body became his, and of Straxus, just as the true Megatron—having recovered his memories after a period of wandering amensia in the [[Dead End (place)|Dead End]]—attacked his base.'' {{storylink|Mind Games}}'' The two Megatrons battled, with the true one revealed the clone's nature to him, and all at once, everything made sense to the clone. Along with this revelation, another immediately arose—Straxus's mental defeat was a sham, and he had been dwelling within the clone's mind all along, steadily growing in power as the clone weakened. Straxus made one final attempt to seize control of their mind, and the clone committed suicide, blowing his own head off with his [[fusion cannon]], rather than allow Straxus to win.'' {{storylink|Two Megatrons!}}

''It is possible that in the original un-altered pre-Time Wars timeline, the Straxus-Megatron clone may have been the Megatron transformed into Galvatron, but the shifting nature of the timelines makes this open to debate at best.''

''All very simple, isn't it?''

{{note|The true nature of the Megatron clone was not revealed until the story which depicted his death. This was because, for all of the clone's other stories, he was regarded by characters, readers and writer [[Simon Furman]] as actually being the ''real'' Megatron, having survived his supposed death in the US comics. The US comics, however, continued to treat Megatron as pushing up daisies, so when Simon Furman took over writing that title and penned Megatron's return, he needed an explanation that would reconcile Megatron's continual appearances in the UK title with his lack of activity in the US. Relegating the Megatron of the UK comics to a clone was that explanation, revealed in UK-exclusive strips which ran concurrently with the reprints of Megatron's US return.}}

=====Marvel UK future timelines=====
The Megatron clone would terrify a young Hot Rod in [[1990]] by willingly risking the lives of loyal Decepticons to flush out a [[Warmonger|double-agent]], and then muse it would've been easier to just murder everyone. Later, he would wage a [[Decepticon Civil War]] against [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] and [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] {{storylink|Aspects of Evil!}} , where he no longer threw fits at his troops because he knew he could look forward to a future as the unbeatable Galvatron. {{storylink|Trigger-Happy!}}

He then become Galvatron by [[2006]] and, by not fleeing to Earth's past, conquered Cybertron! Well, it seems to be him, it's very confusing. If it was him, he then got stepped on by [[Unicron]] in [[2010]]. {{storylink|Aspects of Evil!}}

====Marvel ''Generation 2'' comic====
[[Image:WarWithoutEnd-Straxus.jpg|right|thumb|150px|His weapon gets less threatening with each appearance.]]
[[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] referred to Straxus as one of the petty, small-minded dictators he left in charge of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] when he left to start the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian Empire]]. {{storylink|War Without End!}}

====''Universe Classic Series'' toy bios====
During Straxus's rule over Polyhex, he put a lowly, unknown warrior through an excruciating rebuilding process, tortuously reforging him into the very image of Optimus Prime. Through forcible data uploads and brainwashing, the Decepticon was imbued with memories and skills culled from many sources, giving him much of Optimus Prime's knowledge and combat algorithms. However, Straxus perished before he could complete this "[[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Nemesis Prime]]", and his creation was left without a framework with which to process the mental injections. Straxus's legacy was this mad wraith haunting the back alleys of Cybertron, hunting down Autobots and Decepticons alike.<ref>[http://tformers.net/g/albums/9893/DSCF2738.JPG Nemesis Prime's ''Universe Classic Series'' on-package bio]</ref>
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===IDW Generation 1 comics===
Straxus (not a "Lord")<ref>[http://simonfurman.wordpress.com/2008/06/17/wheels-on-fire/#comment-3627 "WHEELS ON FIRE"—simon furman: the blog]</ref> was part of the crew of the first ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'', which left Cybertron long before [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s uprising. {{storylink|Spotlight: Cyclonus}}

[[Image:Straxusidw.jpg|right|250px|thumb|I may or may not be here in subsequent panels, depending on how the artist feels today.]]
Later, at the beginning of the war, as the Decepticon movement was just beginning to reveal its true menace, Straxus returned to Cybertron for some reason to work security at the [[Kaon Security Headquarters]]. When the Decepticon [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] was brought to trial before an emergency session of the [[Kaon Council]], the accused started a prisoner revolt. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 4|Megatron Origin #4}}

Millions of years later, Straxus had apparently returned to the [[Dead Universe]]. When [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] was abducted on [[Gorlam Prime]], Straxus implanted a device in his brain that would make him a sleeper agent for the Dead Universe crew.<ref>According to the [http://idwpublishing.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=82441#82441 script] for "[[Spotlight: Hardhead]]".</ref> {{storylink|Spotlight: Nightbeat}}

[[Image:SpotlightDoubledealer Straxus Transforms.jpg|left|thumb|250px|And yet, surprisingly few kitbashes from Cybertron [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]]...]]
After [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] secured the [[Nega-Core]] and activated its guardian, Straxus initiated the [[Expansion]] with [[Nova Prime|Nemesis Prime]] and the rest of the Dead Universe crew. {{storylink|Spotlight: Cyclonus}}

Later, Straxus attacked Earth with [[Grindcore (G1)|Grindcore]]. His job was to bombard the surface in his jet mode and then operate an [[energon]] drill while Grindcore set up a [[space bridge]]. {{storylink|Spotlight: Doubledealer}}

Straxus and Grindcore soon had to defend this site when an Autobot team led by [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] stormed it, trying to prevent the Expansion. [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] ended up holding off both of them at the same time while the other Autobots slipped by. The [[Benzuli Expanse]] anomaly was soon sealed off, and unable to survive without their connection to the Dead Universe, both Straxus and Grindcore simply... ceased functioning. {{storylink|Spotlight: Sideswipe}}

===''Wings Universe''===
Straxus was one of a number of [[Decepticon Warlord]]s who fought for territory in the early days of the Great War. With the threat of the [[Cybertron Elite Guard]], the Warlords formed a war council. During one meeting, they reviewed footage of the Elite Guard wiping out some of [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s men, and discussed ways of ridding themselves of the Elite Guard. At the next meeting of the council, [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]] sent along his lieutenant, [[Falcon (G1)|Falcon]], with a box containing an important message. The message turned out to be a bomb, which killed the council members present. {{storylink|A Team Effort}}

===''United''===
[[Image:FierceFightingOnPlanetNebulos-StraxusDecepticons.jpg|left|thumb|200px|...I was an unstoppable tyrannical warlord who answered to no one, once...]]
A [[nano-virus]] that afflicted most Autobots save the [[Targetmaster]]s and the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] required [[Ricochet (Headmasters)|Ricochet]] to lead a team to [[Nebulos]] for an anti-virus. However, the nano-virus was merely a ploy by the Decepticons to draw out the Targetmasters and Headmasters to abduct their [[Nebulan]] partners, so when the Autobots arrived on Nebulos, Straxus was waiting for them with a considerable army! His army quickly fell into disarray, unfortunately, when Straxus was singled out and defeated. He returned to his [[Thunderwing (G1)|master]] to beg forgiveness. {{storylink|The Fierce Fighting on Planet Nebulos}}
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==Toys==
===Generations===
[[Image:Generationstoy-Darkmount.jpg|right|thumb|300px|You're welcome.]]
*'''Darkmount''' (Deluxe, 2010)
**''Accessories'': Pick-axe/cannon, missile launcher, machine gun, smoke grenade launchers

:Part of wave 2 of ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'', Darkmount ("Straxus" was [[trademark|unavailable]]) transforms into a half-tracked [[Wikipedia:Self-propelled artillery|self-propelled artillery]] inspired by the [[Wikipedia:G6 howitzer|South African G6 Rhino]], as well as a tripod-mounted [[Wikipedia:Howitzer|howitzer]] platform called a "battle station".

:In vehicle mode, the turret can rotate and the barrel can raise. Initially it was planned to have him interact with Scout Class figures who could man his "fortress mode". The remainders of that idea are the otherwise pointless handlebars that end up on his knees in robot mode.<ref name="generations11">TakaraTomy staff interview in ''[[Transformers Generations 2011]]'' vol. 1, [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/428825-takaratomy-staff-interview-generations-united.html translation at TFW2005].</ref> In robot mode, the cannon barrel becomes his trademark pick-axe weapon, while his smaller weapons (featuring [[C joint]]s) can clip onto various compatible rungs, bars and tubes sculpted onto the vehicle or robot. Despite his portly robot form, and his alternate half-track mode, his tech specs list his speed rank as 10.

:"M17" is written on his vehicle mode, referencing "[[The Smelting Pool!|Marvel #17]]", the comic issue in which Straxus first appeared. His head is designed with a light-piping feature but it is not utilized.

:The mold was [[redeco]]ed into ''Shattered Glass'' [[Straxus (SG)|Straxus]] and [[retool]]ed into ''Generations'' [[Skullgrin]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Decepticon/Darkmount/darkmount.htm More information on Darkmount at TFU.info]''
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===United===
[[Image:United_Straxus_Toy.jpg|right|thumb|300px|TakaraTomy will collect the fee...''personally!'']]
*'''Straxus''' (Deluxe, [[December 25|12-25]]-2010)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''UN-10'''
**''Accessories'': "Battle axe"/cannon, missile launcher, machine gun, smoke grenade launchers

:Darkmount was redecoed for inclusion in the first wave of [[TakaraTomy]]'s ''[[Transformers United|United]]'' toyline, and even released under his original name. He now sports a new color scheme that replaces much of his grey plastic and ''all'' of his red plastic with more dark blue and new light-blue pieces, apparently shooting to emulate Straxus as he was colored in his [[The Bridge to Nowhere!|second Marvel appearance]], drawing particular inspiration from the [[:Image:MarvelUS-18.jpg|cover]] of the issue. And he's got his dead, black eyes!

:Besides the black eyes, Straxus features additional paint on his face as well as his crotch plate and knee flaps.
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==Notes==
[[Image:StraxusChangesColors.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Consistency is not dispensed here, fools, only GAFFES!]]
*For some reason, Straxus's colors changed drastically between the two issues he was in for the US comic. Also, sometimes between panels.
*With that in mind, Darkmount's color scheme (with its red biceps and gold chest) is based on an amalgam of his appearances. Specifically, a unique color arrangement that appeared on the cover of the fan-publication "The Obscure Omnibus" that super-fan [[User:Monzo|Monzo]] gave the Transformers team for reference.
*Not only was Straxus's color scheme unstable, but so was his weapon design. In his first issue, it looked like a pick-axe, but when Straxus battled Blaster in his second issue, it had evolved into a scythe.
*According to Hasbro copy writer [[Forest Lee]], Straxus was mentioned in Comic-Con 2008 [[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Nemesis Prime]]'s bio entirely to make [[David Willis]] happy. Incidentally, Willis colored the cover to the fan publication mentioned in the second note, so he's probably on Cloud Nine right now.
*Darkmount's instructions show [[Skullgrin]]'s robot head. It's [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|becoming]] [[Black Shadow (Victory)|a]] [[Axor|trend]].
*''Universe'' Nemesis Prime's backstory was certainly inspired by the Megatron-clone plot, but their relation to each other in-fiction is unclear. A straight reading would suggest that Straxus merely had more than one clone project in the works. However, if one assumes that the ''Classic Series'' bios are meant to follow the ''[[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club (magazine)|Classics'' comic]], then Nemesis Prime would be Straxus's ONLY known clone project in his universe, since the UK comics are not part of that continuity. However, it wouldn't be the [[Mutant (G1)|first time]] a [[The 4,000,000 Year Itch!|UK-only plot thread]] managed to make it into a ''Classics''-related product...
*It's likely that [[Eric Holmes]] didn't consult with [[Simon Furman]] when he had Straxus as a cameo in ''[[The Transformers: Megatron Origin|Megatron Origin]]''. (Straxus must have been mentioned in the script, since he shows up in [http://mmatere.deviantart.com/art/Megatron-Origins-4-pag-02-80058403 Marcelo Matere's version of the page.]) Since he was never mentioned by name in ''Origin'', and he has a different design in the later Spotlights, it can be easily retconned that the character in ''Megatron Origin'' was [[Bluster|"Straxus's brother"]], since Straxus was supposedly in the Dead Universe at this time.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Straxus''' (ストラクサス ''Sutorakusasu'')

==References==
<references />

==External links==
*[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/jhiaxus/uscomics/straxus.htm Straxus at the Obscure Transformers Website.]

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Blaze Master (G1)

2012-09-24T12:35:54Z

76.28.76.206: PCC

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{{disambig2|the Micromaster helicopter from Generation 1|the helicopter from ''Revenge of the Fallen''|Blazemaster}}
:''Blaze Master is an [[Autobot]] [[Micromaster]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:BlazeMasterBoxart.jpg|right|300px|thumb|He loves the smell of napalm in the morning. And afternoon. Evening... late night...]]

The [[Air Patrol]] has never really gelled as a team, and a good chunk of that is because of '''Blaze Master'''. It's not just because his cynical nature clashes with the ever-optimistic [[Sky High (Micromaster)|Sky High]]. Frankly, he scares them, and a lot of other Autobots as well. His favorite battle tactic is to fly slow and low over [[Decepticon]] positions, presenting himself as an easy target. Once he's sure they can see him, he releases his signature weapon, a napalm-like corrosive spray that incinerates anything it doesn't melt first. Then he just hovers there, watching his enemies die slowly and painfully... chuckling all the while. He can use the spray in robot mode too, but the "death from above" method is by far his favorite.<ref>''[[Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' #1</ref>

After his conversion to a larger form using [[Power Core Combiner]] technology, he took the code name '''Choppermaster'''.

==Fiction==
===Dreamwave comics continuity===
When the newly created Micromasters first took up sides in the Cybertronian Wars, Blaze Master chose to join the Decepticons. Working alongside [[Barricade (G1)|Barricade]] and his [[Race Track Patrol]], he attacked the Autobot Micromasters when they attempted to rescue the damaged [[guzzler]] named [[Roadbuster (G1)|Roadbuster]]. {{storylink|Destined for Nothing}} Rumor had it, though, that he was discontent with the Decepticon way of doing things. [[Powertrain]] and [[Highjump (G1)|Highjump]] were discussing how to bring Blaze Master over to the Autobot side later that night in [[Little Iacon]]. {{storylink|The Gray Race}} When [[Venom (G1)|Venom]] and his Decepticons took over and occupied the area, they demanded the Micros turn against each other on that formerly neutral turf. At that point, Blaze Master had definitely had enough: he tossed aside his allegiance and told the Decepticon guzzlers to slag off. Venom then had [[Barrage (Insecticon)|Barrage]] shoot down the Micromaster. The Autobot [[Fixit (G1)|Fixit]] was seen caring for the fallen Blaze Master after that. {{storylink|Recipe for Hate|Recipe for Hate}} Venom and his men took the Autobot Micromasters into custody back at Decepticon headquarters, but [[Big Daddy (G1)|Big Daddy]] and the [[Hot Rod Patrol]] broke them out soon after. Blaze Master got his revenge on Venom shortly afterwards, stabbing the larger robot through the torso with his energo-rotors. {{storylink|Victims of the Revolution}}

===IDW comics continuity===
Blaze Master was one of the legions of [[Dead Universe]] Micromasters who pursued [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]] and [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] on [[Gorlam Prime]]. {{storylink|Spotlight: Hardhead}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:G1-toy BlazeMaster.jpg|right|300px|thumb|]]
*'''Air Patrol''' (Micromaster Patrol, 1990)
**''Accessories'': Rotor blade

: Blaze Master transforms into a Sikorsky MH-53 Pave Low helicopter. His rotor blades can detach and be mounted as a melee weapon on his robot-mode arm. He was only available as part of the [[Air Patrol]] set with his teammates [[Eagle Eye (G1)|Eagle Eye]], [[Sky High (Micromaster)|Sky High]] and [[Tread Bolt]]. The rotor blade is the same mold as the one used by [[Tracer (G1 Decepticon)|Tracer]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1990/Autobot/BlazeMaster/blazemaster.htm More information on Blaze Master at TFU.info]''

===Zone===
*'''Sky Patrol Team''' (Micro Transformer team, 1990)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''C-352'''
**''Accessories'': Rotor blade

: The Air Patrol was released as part of [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s ''[[Transformers: Zone (toyline)|Zone]]'' series with no notable changes from the [[Hasbro]] release.

==Notes==
* Most—if not all—of the toys pictured in the 1990 Hasbro ''Transformers'' catalog are unfinished prototypes or mock-ups, and a variety of differences from the final product are apparent. In Blaze Master's case, there are some minuscule sculpting differences...and the complete lack of robot-mode [[Paint operation|paint application]]s.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Blaze Master''' (ブリーズマスター ''Burīzu Masutā'')
*''French:'' '''Brasero''' (Canada)
*''Italian:'' '''Elicos'''

==References==
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Straxus (G1)

2012-09-24T12:34:36Z

76.28.76.206: Power Core Combiner

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{{disambig3|Straxus}}

:''Straxus is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[Image:Straxus.jpg|right|350px|thumb|Mercy is not dispensed here, fools, only Pez.]]
A ruthless, fearmongering dictator, Lord High Governor '''Straxus''' is a threat to all under his rule—including his own inner circle. From his throne in [[Darkmount]], there are none in [[Polyhex]] who do not feel his crushing influence. Straxus's word is law, unbound by reason or facts, and can and will change from thought to thought. Do not try to appeal to his sense of pity; he has none.

A brutal powerhouse, he is more than able to enforce his policies, usually with a deadly blow from his battle axe. So terrible is Straxus that even [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] gives the dictator his space, allowing the small-minded tyrant to terrorize his corner of the globe. Megatron may have designs on the galaxy, but in Polyhex, Straxus rules.

He is sometimes known as '''Darkmount'''. After his conversion to [[Power Core Combiner]] technology, he took the code name '''Rollermaster'''.

{{quote|'''Mercy''' is not dispensed here, fools... only '''death!'''|Straxus|"[[The Smelting Pool!]]"}}

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Marvel Generation 1 comics====
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[[Image:Straxusholdscourt.jpg|left|300px|thumb|He's got a metal palm tree and he's not afraid to use it!]]
''Following the assassination of the Decepticon warlord [[Trannis]] by the [[Autobot]] commando unit, the [[Wrecker]]s, Straxus assumed his position as [[Decepticon leader]] on Cybertron.'' {{storylink|Cybertron: The Middle Years!}}

Straxus would oversee a horrifically brutal reign, having his men hunt down neutrals, Autobots, and [[empty|the destitute]] so they could be melted down in [[smelting pool]]s and their metal reused by the Decepticons. Even other Decepticons weren't safe from his brutality, with him battering his own Executive Officer [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] when he was in a mood.

When a Decepticon transmission beamed from the planet [[Earth]] circa the Earth year 1985 reached Cybertron, Straxus immediately arranged for the capture of the scientist [[Spanner (G1)|Spanner]] so that a [[space bridge]] between the worlds could be constructed. Attempting to locate Spanner, the Autobot spy [[Scrounge (G1)|Scrounge]] learned of this plot, but was captured by [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] and brought before Straxus, who maliciously destroyed his unique recording-device arm before consigning him to death in the [[Smelting pool|smelting pools]]. In turn, [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] came searching for Scrounge (against orders), was captured and brought before Straxus, and sentenced to the pools. There he discovered the dying Scrounge, was given the information he had acquired, and escaped with the aid of his Autobot friends who had come looking for him (against orders). {{storylink|The Smelting Pool!}}

[[Image:Straxusaltmode.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Yeah, but where does the axe go?]]The space bridge was subsequently completed, but its earliest tests reduced Straxus to rage when a malfunction caused the death of [[Crosscut (Decepticon)|Crosscut]], and he sent [[Crosscut's successor|another unfortunate]] to instant death in an attempt to figure out what had gone wrong. In an act of petty brutality, he threatened Shrapnel that he better sort the problem out soon because ''he'' was going to be sent to clear the rubbish off the Bridge! As the tests went on, an Autobot raiding party planted explosives within Darkmount, destroying it, and sending an enraged Straxus after their heads. With the bridge unattended, Blaster intended to destroy it, but was confronted by Straxus in a one-on-one duel. Crippling Blaster with his axe, Straxus was duped into accidentally severing the bridge's fuel line, destabilizing its teleporting arch, through which Blaster then kicked Straxus, destroying him. {{storylink|The Bridge to Nowhere!}}

[[Image:Straxushead.jpg|left|180px|thumb|Teletraan I, Rita's escaped, recruit a team of teenagers with attitude...no, er wait...]]
''However, while Straxus's body was reduced to ash, his head was salvaged and placed in a life-support pod that allowed him to continue on in his position as leader.'' {{storylink|...The Harder They Die!}} ''Soon after, when [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] arrived on Cybertron, Straxus immediately set in motion a scheme to restore himself to life, calmly following Megatron's directions to hunt down [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]], who had arrived on the planet with him. ''{{storylink|Under Fire!}}'' After Prime carried out [[Decepticon fuel store|several successful raids]] alongside the Wreckers, Megatron began to grow more and more unstable, and Straxus more and more impatient with his deranged houseguest. Despite the warnings of his technicians as to the "unpredictability" of the machinery involved, Straxus made the final step, activating a device that would exchange his and Megatron's minds, giving him a body once more. Megatron resisted the transfer, however, leaving the two minds within Megatron's body, fighting for dominance, each one in control at a different moment. The other Decepticons, in particular [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]], soon noticed their leader's problems and began to scheme about how to handle it. When in battle with Prime and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], Megatron prepared to unleash his destructive [[antimatter]] powers; in order to save the [[Polyhex Decepticon stronghold]], Ratbat activated the space bridge, teleporting the three Transformers back to [[Earth]].'' {{storylink|Resurrection!}}

[[Image:Maulers_mauled.jpg|right|thumb|250px|This story is full of awesome Megatron moments and Straxus retroactively stole them all. He ''is'' evil!]]
''Before this could occur, having failed to oust Megatron's mind, Straxus activated his contingency plan, "[[Project Re-Birth]]," and his consciousness fled into a body he had specially prepared—a duplicate of Megatron created from a "[[hapless trooper]]", complete with a copy of his brain patterns, beneath which Straxus's personality lay dormant. '' {{storylink|Two Megatrons!}}'' Upon hearing of the true Megatron's seeming death aboard the space bridge a short time later, the project technicians activated the clone, sending it to the sewers beneath [[London]] where it came into conflict with a small group of Autobots, [[Action Force (team)|Action Force]] and [[Centurion (Marvel)|Centurion]]. Straxus's mind had yet to take over the clone at this point, and it genuinely believed itself to be the true Megatron, but it was soon dealt with when an oil tank explosion sent it and Centurion tumbling into the Thames river.'' {{storylink|Ancient Relics!}}

''Some time later, seeking a weapon to use against the deranged future Decepticon [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] recovered the Megatron clone, also believing it to be the genuine article, only to find that "Megatron"'s mind had retreated into itself. Shockwave subjected the clone to the [[psycho-probe]], intending to force "Megatron" to face his fears—but instead, Straxus emerged, intending to fight Megatron's fears for him and finally take control of the body. Megatron fought back, however, ripping the mental image of Straxus to pieces and finally taking over their shared mind.'' {{storylink|Salvage!}}

''This Megatron killed [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] in a test run'' {{storylink|Dry Run!}} ''and then proceeded to battle Galvatron, but ceased his attack after hearing from the future Decepticon that: a) Stasrcream would throw him out a ship in 2006, and b) Galvatron would kill him. Amused and seeing the two had a lot in common, Megatron agreed to join him.'' {{storylink|Altered Image!}} ''He helped Galvatron battle Autobots of the present and future in the "[[Time Wars]]", massacring [[Wrecker]]s and the [[Mayhem Attack Squad]], but was soon put off by the growing madness and pointless destruction that his ally was causing. The Megatron clone opted instead to [[Decepticon heavy transport|return]] to Cybertron.'' {{storylink|Time Wars}}

''On Cybertron, he effortlessly dethroned the decadent ruling [[Triumverate]] and took control of the Decepticons on the planet once more... ruling confident in the knowledge he'd become Galvatron, and ''this'' time he'd do things ''right''!'' {{storylink|The Fall and Rise of the Decepticon Empire.}}

[[Image:TFUK TwoMegatrons Suicide.JPG|left|150px|thumb|No, no! Aim away from the face!]]
''Soon, however, he began to suffer from nightmarish visions of the lives lived by both the trooper whose body became his, and of Straxus, just as the true Megatron—having recovered his memories after a period of wandering amensia in the [[Dead End (place)|Dead End]]—attacked his base.'' {{storylink|Mind Games}}'' The two Megatrons battled, with the true one revealed the clone's nature to him, and all at once, everything made sense to the clone. Along with this revelation, another immediately arose—Straxus's mental defeat was a sham, and he had been dwelling within the clone's mind all along, steadily growing in power as the clone weakened. Straxus made one final attempt to seize control of their mind, and the clone committed suicide, blowing his own head off with his [[fusion cannon]], rather than allow Straxus to win.'' {{storylink|Two Megatrons!}}

''It is possible that in the original un-altered pre-Time Wars timeline, the Straxus-Megatron clone may have been the Megatron transformed into Galvatron, but the shifting nature of the timelines makes this open to debate at best.''

''All very simple, isn't it?''

{{note|The true nature of the Megatron clone was not revealed until the story which depicted his death. This was because, for all of the clone's other stories, he was regarded by characters, readers and writer [[Simon Furman]] as actually being the ''real'' Megatron, having survived his supposed death in the US comics. The US comics, however, continued to treat Megatron as pushing up daisies, so when Simon Furman took over writing that title and penned Megatron's return, he needed an explanation that would reconcile Megatron's continual appearances in the UK title with his lack of activity in the US. Relegating the Megatron of the UK comics to a clone was that explanation, revealed in UK-exclusive strips which ran concurrently with the reprints of Megatron's US return.}}

=====Marvel UK future timelines=====
The Megatron clone would terrify a young Hot Rod in [[1990]] by willingly risking the lives of loyal Decepticons to flush out a [[Warmonger|double-agent]], and then muse it would've been easier to just murder everyone. Later, he would wage a [[Decepticon Civil War]] against [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] and [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] {{storylink|Aspects of Evil!}} , where he no longer threw fits at his troops because he knew he could look forward to a future as the unbeatable Galvatron. {{storylink|Trigger-Happy!}}

He then become Galvatron by [[2006]] and, by not fleeing to Earth's past, conquered Cybertron! Well, it seems to be him, it's very confusing. If it was him, he then got stepped on by [[Unicron]] in [[2010]]. {{storylink|Aspects of Evil!}}

====Marvel ''Generation 2'' comic====
[[Image:WarWithoutEnd-Straxus.jpg|right|thumb|150px|His weapon gets less threatening with each appearance.]]
[[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] referred to Straxus as one of the petty, small-minded dictators he left in charge of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] when he left to start the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian Empire]]. {{storylink|War Without End!}}

====''Universe Classic Series'' toy bios====
During Straxus's rule over Polyhex, he put a lowly, unknown warrior through an excruciating rebuilding process, tortuously reforging him into the very image of Optimus Prime. Through forcible data uploads and brainwashing, the Decepticon was imbued with memories and skills culled from many sources, giving him much of Optimus Prime's knowledge and combat algorithms. However, Straxus perished before he could complete this "[[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Nemesis Prime]]", and his creation was left without a framework with which to process the mental injections. Straxus's legacy was this mad wraith haunting the back alleys of Cybertron, hunting down Autobots and Decepticons alike.<ref>[http://tformers.net/g/albums/9893/DSCF2738.JPG Nemesis Prime's ''Universe Classic Series'' on-package bio]</ref>
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===IDW Generation 1 comics===
Straxus (not a "Lord")<ref>[http://simonfurman.wordpress.com/2008/06/17/wheels-on-fire/#comment-3627 "WHEELS ON FIRE"—simon furman: the blog]</ref> was part of the crew of the first ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'', which left Cybertron long before [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s uprising. {{storylink|Spotlight: Cyclonus}}

[[Image:Straxusidw.jpg|right|250px|thumb|I may or may not be here in subsequent panels, depending on how the artist feels today.]]
Later, at the beginning of the war, as the Decepticon movement was just beginning to reveal its true menace, Straxus returned to Cybertron for some reason to work security at the [[Kaon Security Headquarters]]. When the Decepticon [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] was brought to trial before an emergency session of the [[Kaon Council]], the accused started a prisoner revolt. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 4|Megatron Origin #4}}

Millions of years later, Straxus had apparently returned to the [[Dead Universe]]. When [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] was abducted on [[Gorlam Prime]], Straxus implanted a device in his brain that would make him a sleeper agent for the Dead Universe crew.<ref>According to the [http://idwpublishing.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=82441#82441 script] for "[[Spotlight: Hardhead]]".</ref> {{storylink|Spotlight: Nightbeat}}

[[Image:SpotlightDoubledealer Straxus Transforms.jpg|left|thumb|250px|And yet, surprisingly few kitbashes from Cybertron [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]]...]]
After [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] secured the [[Nega-Core]] and activated its guardian, Straxus initiated the [[Expansion]] with [[Nova Prime|Nemesis Prime]] and the rest of the Dead Universe crew. {{storylink|Spotlight: Cyclonus}}

Later, Straxus attacked Earth with [[Grindcore (G1)|Grindcore]]. His job was to bombard the surface in his jet mode and then operate an [[energon]] drill while Grindcore set up a [[space bridge]]. {{storylink|Spotlight: Doubledealer}}

Straxus and Grindcore soon had to defend this site when an Autobot team led by [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] stormed it, trying to prevent the Expansion. [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] ended up holding off both of them at the same time while the other Autobots slipped by. The [[Benzuli Expanse]] anomaly was soon sealed off, and unable to survive without their connection to the Dead Universe, both Straxus and Grindcore simply... ceased functioning. {{storylink|Spotlight: Sideswipe}}

===''Wings Universe''===
Straxus was one of a number of [[Decepticon Warlord]]s who fought for territory in the early days of the Great War. With the threat of the [[Cybertron Elite Guard]], the Warlords formed a war council. During one meeting, they reviewed footage of the Elite Guard wiping out some of [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s men, and discussed ways of ridding themselves of the Elite Guard. At the next meeting of the council, [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]] sent along his lieutenant, [[Falcon (G1)|Falcon]], with a box containing an important message. The message turned out to be a bomb, which killed the council members present. {{storylink|A Team Effort}}

===''United''===
[[Image:FierceFightingOnPlanetNebulos-StraxusDecepticons.jpg|left|thumb|200px|...I was an unstoppable tyrannical warlord who answered to no one, once...]]
A [[nano-virus]] that afflicted most Autobots save the [[Targetmaster]]s and the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] required [[Ricochet (Headmasters)|Ricochet]] to lead a team to [[Nebulos]] for an anti-virus. However, the nano-virus was merely a ploy by the Decepticons to draw out the Targetmasters and Headmasters to abduct their [[Nebulan]] partners, so when the Autobots arrived on Nebulos, Straxus was waiting for them with a considerable army! His army quickly fell into disarray, unfortunately, when Straxus was singled out and defeated. He returned to his [[Thunderwing (G1)|master]] to beg forgiveness. {{storylink|The Fierce Fighting on Planet Nebulos}}
{{--}}

==Toys==
===Generations===
[[Image:Generationstoy-Darkmount.jpg|right|thumb|300px|You're welcome.]]
*'''Darkmount''' (Deluxe, 2010)
**''Accessories'': Pick-axe/cannon, missile launcher, machine gun, smoke grenade launchers

:Part of wave 2 of ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'', Darkmount ("Straxus" was [[trademark|unavailable]]) transforms into a half-tracked [[Wikipedia:Self-propelled artillery|self-propelled artillery]] inspired by the [[Wikipedia:G6 howitzer|South African G6 Rhino]], as well as a tripod-mounted [[Wikipedia:Howitzer|howitzer]] platform called a "battle station".

:In vehicle mode, the turret can rotate and the barrel can raise. Initially it was planned to have him interact with Scout Class figures who could man his "fortress mode". The remainders of that idea are the otherwise pointless handlebars that end up on his knees in robot mode.<ref name="generations11">TakaraTomy staff interview in ''[[Transformers Generations 2011]]'' vol. 1, [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/428825-takaratomy-staff-interview-generations-united.html translation at TFW2005].</ref> In robot mode, the cannon barrel becomes his trademark pick-axe weapon, while his smaller weapons (featuring [[C joint]]s) can clip onto various compatible rungs, bars and tubes sculpted onto the vehicle or robot. Despite his portly robot form, and his alternate half-track mode, his tech specs list his speed rank as 10.

:"M17" is written on his vehicle mode, referencing "[[The Smelting Pool!|Marvel #17]]", the comic issue in which Straxus first appeared. His head is designed with a light-piping feature but it is not utilized.

:The mold was [[redeco]]ed into ''Shattered Glass'' [[Straxus (SG)|Straxus]] and [[retool]]ed into ''Generations'' [[Skullgrin]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Decepticon/Darkmount/darkmount.htm More information on Darkmount at TFU.info]''
{{-}}

===United===
[[Image:United_Straxus_Toy.jpg|right|thumb|300px|TakaraTomy will collect the fee...''personally!'']]
*'''Straxus''' (Deluxe, [[December 25|12-25]]-2010)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''UN-10'''
**''Accessories'': "Battle axe"/cannon, missile launcher, machine gun, smoke grenade launchers

:Darkmount was redecoed for inclusion in the first wave of [[TakaraTomy]]'s ''[[Transformers United|United]]'' toyline, and even released under his original name. He now sports a new color scheme that replaces much of his grey plastic and ''all'' of his red plastic with more dark blue and new light-blue pieces, apparently shooting to emulate Straxus as he was colored in his [[The Bridge to Nowhere!|second Marvel appearance]], drawing particular inspiration from the [[:Image:MarvelUS-18.jpg|cover]] of the issue. And he's got his dead, black eyes!

:Besides the black eyes, Straxus features additional paint on his face as well as his crotch plate and knee flaps.
{{--}}

==Notes==
[[Image:StraxusChangesColors.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Consistency is not dispensed here, fools, only GAFFES!]]
*For some reason, Straxus's colors changed drastically between the two issues he was in for the US comic. Also, sometimes between panels.
*With that in mind, Darkmount's color scheme (with its red biceps and gold chest) is based on an amalgam of his appearances. Specifically, a unique color arrangement that appeared on the cover of the fan-publication "The Obscure Omnibus" that super-fan [[User:Monzo|Monzo]] gave the Transformers team for reference.
*Not only was Straxus's color scheme unstable, but so was his weapon design. In his first issue, it looked like a pick-axe, but when Straxus battled Blaster in his second issue, it had evolved into a scythe.
*According to Hasbro copy writer [[Forest Lee]], Straxus was mentioned in Comic-Con 2008 [[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Nemesis Prime]]'s bio entirely to make [[David Willis]] happy. Incidentally, Willis colored the cover to the fan publication mentioned in the second note, so he's probably on Cloud Nine right now.
*Darkmount's instructions show [[Skullgrin]]'s robot head. It's [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|becoming]] [[Black Shadow (Victory)|a]] [[Axor|trend]].
*''Universe'' Nemesis Prime's backstory was certainly inspired by the Megatron-clone plot, but their relation to each other in-fiction is unclear. A straight reading would suggest that Straxus merely had more than one clone project in the works. However, if one assumes that the ''Classic Series'' bios are meant to follow the ''[[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club (magazine)|Classics'' comic]], then Nemesis Prime would be Straxus's ONLY known clone project in his universe, since the UK comics are not part of that continuity. However, it wouldn't be the [[Mutant (G1)|first time]] a [[The 4,000,000 Year Itch!|UK-only plot thread]] managed to make it into a ''Classics''-related product...
*It's likely that [[Eric Holmes]] didn't consult with [[Simon Furman]] when he had Straxus as a cameo in ''[[The Transformers: Megatron Origin|Megatron Origin]]''. (Straxus must have been mentioned in the script, since he shows up in [http://mmatere.deviantart.com/art/Megatron-Origins-4-pag-02-80058403 Marcelo Matere's version of the page.]) Since he was never mentioned by name in ''Origin'', and he has a different design in the later Spotlights, it can be easily retconned that the character in ''Megatron Origin'' was [[Bluster|"Straxus's brother"]], since Straxus was supposedly in the Dead Universe at this time.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Straxus''' (ストラクサス ''Sutorakusasu'')

==References==
<references />

==External links==
*[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/jhiaxus/uscomics/straxus.htm Straxus at the Obscure Transformers Website.]

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[[Category:Clones]]
[[Category:Decepticon leaders]]
[[Category:Generation 1 Decepticons]]
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[[Category:Wings Universe Decepticons]]

Talk:Tailgate (G1)

2012-09-22T19:28:02Z

76.28.76.206: /* Main image and opening paragraph */

== Mexican Tailgate ==

[http://www.tf-1.com/articles/eurous/yellowtail_template.html]--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 19:24, 17 October 2011 (EDT)

==Main image and opening paragraph==
His main image should be his first body, of which that art is definitely not. And there's not really an excuse for not mentioning his only character trait for 25 years. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:34, 21 September 2012 (EDT)
:Firstly, it wasn't his sole character trait - neither his Marvel UK nor Japanese comic appearances (the latter of which is set on Earth) show ANY sign of him obsessing over inanimate objects. Indeed, his Marvel UK appearance shows him as concerned about being thought a coward, and level-headed under pressure, which are character traits which DON'T fit with his TFU bio (I worked that in to the top section - it isn't pure IDW MtMtE).
:And, yes, it is ''mentioned'' ("...sensitive to the point of irrationality" is basically how the DW bio puts it), but it shouldn't be given such prominence ōwhen it '''doesn't fit with *ANY* of his fictional appearances, and contradicts most of them'''. If there was a "Transformers Universe bio continuity" section (lots of them, not just Tailgate, are either ignored or outright contradicted by even their Marvel in-comic appearances), or you want to work it into the Dreamwave section, that would make sense rather than forcing it in when it doesn't apply to any of the sections it leads into.
:As for the image... that doesn't seem to be a hard rule - the most obvious expression being the pages of those who appear in both the Prime cartoon and War for Cybertron, who should have WfC pictures for the mainpic by that rule - it both came out months before Prime episode 1 aired *and* is set before it fictionally (Starscream & Soundwave being the most blatant examples, since their bodies in the game and cartoon bear virtually no resemblance to one another). And there are others - shouldn't Movie Prime & Starscream have their Protoform bodies for mainpics, Optimus Primal should be his bat body, BW Megatron his alligator body, BW Dinobot have colouring to match the cartoon/original release rather than the BWX redeco with the bright blue highlights, and so forth. On that basis, since this is the first body in which Tailgate has ''regularly done stuff'' and shows character, this fits fine with my reading. - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 06:34, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
::I disagree with your wall of text. Tailgate's intro paragraph has no excuse to completely ignore the only personality we know he has in any continuity but IDW, and whatever you think you wrote that included it, nobody but you sees it. -[[User:LV|LV]] 10:00, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
:::Okay, in short words - show me where in [[Underworld!|UK #245]] or the [[Fight!_Super_Robot_Lifeform_Transform:::;ers_issue_7|JG1 #7]]-[[Fight!_Super_Robot_Lifeform_Transformers_issue_8|#8]], ''neither of which he is a background character in'', he shows ANY trace of the personality the TFU bio gives for him. - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 10:54, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
::::You act as if Furman or the Japanese mangas ignoring the bio character traits and making them generic guys acting generically is somehow uncommon. Never mind that in "Underworld", ''Tailgate is not on Earth''. Kind of a vital component to trigger his crazy missing there. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:06, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
::::::I really dislike giving his IDW personality complete prominence over the TFU/toy bio that has been his only character personality for decades.i thought our policy was the opening paragraph should be Continuity Neutral and if there were different portrayals they went in the fiction section? At the very least the TFU bio NEEDS to be here somewhere. It was Who he is FAR longer than his new IDW stuff well written or not.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 15:28, 22 September 2012 (EDT)

Tread Bolt

2012-09-21T13:52:21Z

76.28.76.206:

{{faction|autobot}}
{{disambig2|the Generation 1 Micromaster|the Energon Autobot|Treadbolt}}
:''Tread Bolt is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]]. He is sometimes a [[Micromaster]] and sometimes a [[Power Core Combiner]] under the codename '''Jetmaster'''.

[[Image:TreadBoltBoxart.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Clearly, he's watched the informative educational film ''How Not To Be Seen''.]]

No-one denies that '''Tread Bolt''' is an amazing stealth operative. He's an expert at blending into the background, moving silently, and evading detection equipment. But most Autobots wish he'd just stick to using those skills to sneak into [[Decepticon]] installations and stop "practicing" on his teammates by sneaking into their quarters during off hours and scaring the oil out of them. Whatever good graces he's earning by being good at his job are quickly countered by his being a creepy dick.<ref>''[[Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More Than Meets The Eye]]'' #7</ref>

==Fiction==
===IDW comics continuity===
Tread Bolt was one of the legions of [[Dead Universe]] Micromasters who pursued [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]] and [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] on [[Gorlam Prime]]. He survived to confront Hardhead with the [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]]-controlled Nightbeat in the planet's subterranean tunnels, but failed to prevent the Autobot from escaping into the Dead Universe. {{storylink|Spotlight: Hardhead}}
{{--}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:G1-toy TreadBolt.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Sky High. Sky High. SKY HIGH. I'm Batman.]]
*'''Air Patrol''' (Micromaster Patrol, 1990)

: Tread Bolt transforms into a concept Stealth Bomber jet. He was only available as part of the [[Air Patrol]] set with his teammates [[Blaze Master]], [[Eagle Eye (G1)|Eagle Eye]], and [[Sky High (Micromaster)|Sky High]].

===Zone===
*'''Sky Patrol Team''' (Micro Transformer team, 1990)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''C-352'''

: The Air Patrol was released a year later in Japan as part of [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s ''[[Transformers: Zone (toyline)|Zone]]'' series, with no notable changes from the [[Hasbro]] release.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1990/Autobot/TreadBolt/treadbolt.htm More information on Tread Bolt at TFU.info]''
{{--}}

===Universe (2008)===
[[Image:TFU08-toy TreadBolt.jpg|right|300px|thumb|First sneak, then DEATH FROM ABOVE!]]
*'''Tread Bolt''' (Voyager, 2008)
**''Accessories:'' Rocket Booster pack, 2-part rifle, 2 missile launchers, 2 missiles, helmet

: "Classics Series" Tread Bolt is a redeco of ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' [[Jetfire (G1)#Classics|Jetfire]], transforming into a Cybertronic swing-winged fighter jet. He features a removable robot-mode helmet (the side guns becoming blasters mounted on the sides of the nosecone in vehicle mode), the toy's add-on booster packs have flip-out reveal cannons accessible in both modes, and it also features forearm-mounted spring-loaded missile launchers. An unexpected level of detail can be found on the grey non-firing rifle; when it is assembled, the gun's "sight" comes together in a way that would be functional on a full-size weapon.

: The paint deco for his alt mode seems to be based almost entirely on that of the U.S Navy [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_angels Blue Angel] Planes.

: This mold was used to make the [[BotCon 2007]] version of [[Dreadwind (G1)#Timelines|Dreadwind]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/TFUTreadBolt/treadbolt.htm More information on Universe Tread Bolt at TFU.info]''
{{--}}

==Notes==
* Most—if not all—of the toys pictured in the 1990 [[Hasbro]] ''Transformers'' catalog are unfinished prototypes or mock-ups, and a variety of differences from final product pop up. In Tread Bolt's case, the catalog version lacks the final's "Air Force" [[tampograph]]s.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Tread Bolt''' (トレードボルト ''Torēdo Boruto'')
*''French:'' '''Boulon''' (Canada)
*''Italian:'' '''Mistery'''

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Classics Autobots]]
[[Category:Defense specialists]]
[[Category:Generation 1 Autobots]]
[[Category:Micromasters]]
[[Category:Universe (2008)]]
[[Category:Zone Autobots]]

Guiding Hand

2012-09-12T20:47:32Z

76.28.76.206:

:''The Guiding Hand is a mysterious "them" from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

Who exactly the '''Guiding Hand''' are is a mystery. They are related to some set of alternative truths about [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]'s history.

==Members==
*[[Primus]]
*[[Mortilus]]
*[[Solomus]]
*[[Epistemus]]
*[[Adaptus]]

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 comics===
The Guiding Hand were mentioned in an ancient inscription within the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. Through the Matrix, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] once knew of them, but the knowledge faded from his memory upon the splitting of the Matrix. {{Storylink|The Transformers: The Death of Optimus Prime|The Death of Optimus Prime}}

[[Category: Generation 1 factions]]
[[Category: Gods]]

Dark Matter Calibur

2012-09-09T11:55:31Z

76.28.76.206: /* Notes */

{{faction|decepticon|minicon}}
:''The Dark Matter Calibur is a [[Decepticon]] [[Mini-Con]]-formed weapon from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

[[Image:MetalAttraction AMT-DarkMatterCalibur.jpg|right|thumb|400px|Each pound weighs over ten thousand pounds.]]

A ''massive'' broadsword formed from the [[Arms Micron]]s [[Gabu]], [[Baru]] and [[Dai]], the '''Dark Matter Calibur''' is just one of the many [[Arms Micron#Arms Up Mission game|Super Combo Weapons]] the Arms Microns can form when they work together.

==Fiction==
===Prime===
{{note|The Dark Matter Calibur appears only in the [[Arms Micron Theater]] segment of the Japanese broadcasts.}}
Gabu, Baru and Dai arrived in the studio to show off their [[Arms Micron#"Arms Up"|Super Combo Weapon mode]], the Dark Matter Calibur. They then promptly cut large gashes in the set (scaring [[Gul]] and [[Zori]] who had been hiding behind the door). [[O.P.]], [[B.2]] and [[R.A.]] arrived in their [[Star Saber (Arms Micron)|Star Saber]] mode to try and stop the carnage, but one swipe of the Calibur forced them to separate. {{storylink|Metal Attraction|Adhesive Transformation!? Magnetic Tag Match}} Still combined, Gabu, Baru and Dai then fell asleep, giving O.P., B.2 and R.A. a chance to plan a different strategy. {{storylink|Rock Bottom|Exploration Transformation! Escape from the Underground}} Once they woke up, they began demanding an apology from the three Autobot Microns, who refused and called in reinforcements in the form of [[Pral]], [[Jayz]] and [[Sais]]. These new arrivals combined into the [[Cosmotector]] Super Combo Weapon, which then powered up into a golden form and defeated the Dark Matter Calibur, causing Gabu, Baru and Dai to separate. {{storylink|T.M.I.|Friendship Transformation! My Bulkhead}}

==Toys==
===Prime===
*'''Gabu''' (AMW Micron, [[July 28|7-28]]-2012)
**''ID number:'' '''AMW-01'''
*'''Baru''' (AMW Micron, 7-28-2012)
**''ID number:'' '''AMW-02'''
*'''Dai''' (AMW Micron, 7-28-2012)
**''ID number:'' '''AMW-03'''

: The Dark Matter Calibur is a massive sword formed by combining the Arms Microns Gabu, Baru and Dai, each available as unassembled, unplainted individual "kits" as part of the AMW assortment. As each Micron still has several unused [[5mm post]]s and holes, even more Arms Microns (and other compatible accessories) can be added on to make even bigger and more ridiculous weapons.

: While the trio were released at normal retail in late July of 2012, they were made available for sale early at TakaraTomy's booth at the Next Generation World Hobby Fair Summer '12 in Fukuoka, Japan, on [[June 30]] and [[July 1]]. People who bought all three got a free [[Firebolt (Prime)|Autobot Firebolt Clear Yellow Version]] as a bonus.

::*''[http://higekumatoytoy.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-1611.html The Dark Matter Calibur trio at Alfes's Toy Blog]''

{{-}}
==Notes==
* "Calibur" is derived from "Excalibur", and seems to be a popular name for bigass swords in Japan (''SoulCalibur'' anyone?) and [[Cyber Caliber|on Cybertron]].

[[Category:Mini-Con weapons]]
[[Category:Prime weapons]]

Dinobot (FOC)

2012-09-03T02:18:19Z

76.28.76.206: To be precise /* Transformers: Fall of Cybertron */

{{disambig3|Dinobot}}
:''Dinobots are an Autobot subgroup from the [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].
[[Image:Transformers Prime Rage of the Dinobots.jpg|300px|thumb|Sludge got better, maybe?]]
The '''Dinobots''' (formerly the '''[[Lightning Strike Coalition|Lightning Strike Coalition Force]]''') are a team of four [[Autobot]]s that transform into dinosaurs and other prehistoric creatures.

The Dinobots include:
* [[Grimlock (WFC)|Grimlock]] (leader)
* [[Swoop (WFC)|Swoop]]
* [[Slug]]
* [[Snarl (FOC)|Snarl]]

==Fiction==
=== ''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron'' ===
{{comingsoon}}
{{storylink|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron (comic)|Fall of Cybertron comic}}

=== ''Transformers Prime: Rage of the Dinobots'' ===
{{comingsoon}}
{{storylink|Transformers Prime: Rage of the Dinobots|Rage of the Dinobots}}

== Games ==
=== ''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron'' ===
Five members of the Lightning Strike Coalition were captured by [[Shockwave (Prime)|Shockwave]] after repelling his Insecticon hordes and re-engineered to become much more powerful and transform into alternate forms that resembled creatures he discovered on [[Earth|a distant planet]]. Though four of the team escaped captivity, renaming themselves the "Dinobots", Sludge was badly damaged and left behind in stasis following the initial Insecticon attack. {{storylink|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron}}

==Notes==
===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Dinobot''' (ダイノボット ''Dainobotto'')

[[Category:Autobot subgroups]]
[[Category:Dinobots]]
[[Category:Fall of Cybertron Autobots]]

Sludge (FOC)

2012-09-02T12:20:37Z

76.28.76.206: I'm pretty sure Jazz says he's in stasis /* Transformers: Fall of Cybertron */

{{disambig3|Sludge}}
{{faction|autobot|lightningstrike}}

:''Sludge is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''
[[Image:FallOfCybertron Sludge robot mode.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]

The hapless '''Sludge''' is a member of the [[Lightning Strike Coalition]], serving under the command of [[Grimlock (WFC)|Grimlock]].

==Games==
===''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron''===
[[Image:FallOfCybertron Sludge dinomode.jpg|left|thumb|300px|]]

Sludge and the rest of the Lightning Strike Coalition deserted their posts defending the Ark to look into some mysterious energy readings. He helped steal an Autobot drop ship and together the team traveled to the [[Sea of Rust]]. Unfortunately the energy readings related to [[Shockwave (Prime)|Shockwave's]] recent activities near the [[Energon Lake|energon lake]], particularly his efforts on the space bridge and the creation of the [[Insecticon (Prime)|Insecticons]]. The Lightning Strike Coalition battled the Insecticons, but while the others were captured for Shockwave's continued experiments, Sludge was seemingly killed. His body was found by [[Jazz (WFC)|Jazz]], partially dismembered and grafted to the wall of an Insecticon hive. Jazz stated that he was in deep stasis. Jazz removed Sludge's [[memory core]] while attempting to find out what had happened in the tunnels. Jazz later flooded the tunnels with a highly toxic fluid, quite possibly destroying Sludge's body in the process.

After escaping from captivity, the newly christened [[Dinobot (FOC)|Dinobots]] found a hologramatic datacore which projected the body Shockwave had originally planed to give Sludge.{{storylink|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron}}
{{-}}

==Notes==
* Sludge is the only member of the Lightning Strike Coalition to appear in ''Fall of Cybertron'' in his original, pre-Dinobot body.
* It is currently unknown if Sludge is alive or not.

[[Category:War for Cybertron Autobots]]
[[Category:Fall of Cybertron Autobots]]

Talk:Clutch (G1)

2012-09-01T13:30:43Z

76.28.76.206: New page: Do we have an article on the CLUTCH drones from the FoC/WfC games? I'm guessing no since this is all I pull up. Should we make one? --~~~~

Do we have an article on the CLUTCH drones from the FoC/WfC games? I'm guessing no since this is all I pull up. Should we make one? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 09:30, 1 September 2012 (EDT)

Lensflare

2012-08-30T16:32:52Z

76.28.76.206: New page: {{factions|decepticon}} :''Jí Guāng Xīng Rèn is an Decepticon from the Aligned continuity family.'' A true fanatic for the Decepticon cause '''Jí Guāng Xīng Rèn''' ("Ligh...

{{factions|decepticon}}
:''Jí Guāng Xīng Rèn is an [[Decepticon]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

A true fanatic for the Decepticon cause '''Jí Guāng Xīng Rèn''' ("Light-Converging Star Edge") has an apetite for destruction almost on par with [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]]'s own and if that wasn't enough to make her an unpleaseant customer, she's also an extreme paranoid. Still, that doesn't stop her from from being a determined warrior. Once she's set on a target she simply will not give ground until it has been completely destroyed.

==Games==
===''Transformers Online''===
{{storylink|Transformers Online}}
{{comingsoon}}

{{DEFAULTSORT:Jí Guāng Xīng Rèn}}
[[Category: Female Transformers]]
[[Category:Chinese-original characters]]
[[Category:Transformers Online Decepticons]]
[[Category:Video game-only characters]]

Helter-Skelter

2012-08-30T11:55:31Z

76.28.76.206: sorry

{{factions|decepticon}}
''Hùndùn Shāxīng is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

It's rare you find a Decepticon whose lust for power exceeds that of of [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream )Prime)]] but '''Hùndùn Shāxīng''' ("Chaotic Fiend") is a robot who yearns to the core of her being to one day become supreme leader of the Decepticons. She longs with all her spark to become the absolute ruler of Cybertron. Working patiently and methodically towards that ultimate goal, she has been slowly, deliberately, cementing her reputation in the Autobot-Decepticon war.

==Games==
===''Transformers Online''===
{{storylink|Transformers Online}}
{{comingsoon}}

{{DEFAULTSORT:Hùndùn Shāxīng}}
[[Category: Female Transformers]]
[[Category:Chinese-original characters]]
[[Category:Transformers Online Decepticons]]
[[Category:Video game-only characters]]

Helter-Skelter

2012-08-30T11:55:04Z

76.28.76.206:

{{factions|decepticon}}
''Hùndùn Shāxīng is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

It's rare you find a Decepticon whose lust for power exceeds that of of [[Starscream )Prime)|Starscream )Prime)]] but '''Hùndùn Shāxīng''' ("Chaotic Fiend") is a robot who yearns to the core of her being to one day become supreme leader of the Decepticons. She longs with all her spark to become the absolute ruler of Cybertron. Working patiently and methodically towards that ultimate goal, she has been slowly, deliberately, cementing her reputation in the Autobot-Decepticon war.

==Games==
===''Transformers Online''===
{{storylink|Transformers Online}}
{{comingsoon}}

{{DEFAULTSORT:Hùndùn Shāxīng}}
[[Category: Female Transformers]]
[[Category:Chinese-original characters]]
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Helter-Skelter

2012-08-30T11:54:42Z

76.28.76.206: rephrased as requested

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'':Hùndùn Shāxīng is an [[Decepticon]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

It's rare you find a Decepticon whose lust for power exceeds that of of [[Starscream )Prime)|Starscream )Prime)]] but '''Hùndùn Shāxīng''' ("Chaotic Fiend") is a robot who yearns to the core of her being to one day become supreme leader of the Decepticons. She longs with all her spark to become the absolute ruler of Cybertron. Working patiently and methodically towards that ultimate goal, she has been slowly, deliberately, cementing her reputation in the Autobot-Decepticon war.

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Void Pulse

2012-08-29T14:05:24Z

76.28.76.206: New page: {{factions|decepticon}} :''Hēidòng Màichōng is an Decepticon from the Aligned continuity family.'' '''Hēidòng Màichōng''' ("Black Hole Pulse") is an accomplished tracker ...

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:''Hēidòng Màichōng is an [[Decepticon]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

'''Hēidòng Màichōng''' ("Black Hole Pulse") is an accomplished tracker and killer, cold and cunning. She has earned the trust of [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]]. However, there are indications that this dangerous assassin has a close relationship with [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]]. If she were to join Starscream in his subversive schemes, the almighty Emperor of Destruction will be in deep trouble.

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Crimson Phantom

2012-08-29T13:57:23Z

76.28.76.206: Another one up. Don't remember what site had the pictures. Anyone?

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:''Chì Yàn Mèiyǐng is an [[Decepticon]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

'''Chì Yàn Mèiyǐng''' ("Red Flame Phantom") has a perplexing outward appearance. Before joining the Decepticons, she was a dangerous criminal, even the bravest law enforcement officer would exercise extreme caution when dealing with her. In the battlefield, she is an all-rounder, equipped with powerful attacks and great maneuverability, she has won Megatron's appreciation. She arrived on Earth together with the main Decepticon army, and is allowing her desire for destruction run wild on this blue planet.

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Variable Star

2012-08-29T13:44:26Z

76.28.76.206: I don't have their pics, but I thought I'd start stubbing these Girls in

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:''Àn Néng Biànxīng is an [[Decepticon]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

'''Àn Néng Biànxīng''' ("Dark Energy Variable Star") possesses incredible speed, and she is very proud of this. Undoubtedly, her talent is highly useful in battle, discombobulating many enemies. If she were not so enraptured by her own speed, she may actually prove to be a serious threat to Optimus Prime.

==Games==
===''Transformers Online''===
{{storylink|Transformers Online}}
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Psychic Pointman

2012-08-29T12:28:02Z

76.28.76.206: No. Grammar was right the first time. Undo revision 747096 by 112.198.64.57 (Talk)

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:''Chāonéng Jīanbīng is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

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The excitable '''Chāonéng Jīanbīng''' (超能尖兵, "Psychic Pointman") is always up for a fight, only ever feeling fulfilled on the battlefield. He is a very reliable and loyal member of the [[Autobot]]s, while the [[Decepticon]]s either disregard or are overwhelmed by his exploits. What Chāonéng Jīanbīng lacks in speed, he makes up for in his indestructible armor and strong firepower.

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Talk:Shelfwarmer

2012-08-07T19:30:14Z

76.28.76.206: /* Prime Bumblebee */

Real Gears move O.K. in my neck of the woods.

Signal flare and Offshoot however, despite their awesomeness, lasted for years.[[User:Chiasaur11|Chiasaur11]] 03:30, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

:Yeah, I'm not sure the entire Real Gear line could be lumped in as "pegwarmers". I know there's some give and take depending on where you're located, but it's not like there's pegs and pegs of these things just sittin' around for months on end... -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 03:59, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
::...well, there are everyplace I've looked since July. I guess it is a regional difference, but if so it's a very stark and extreme one.--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 13:18, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
::I'd say Signal Flare and Offshoot should replace the Real Gears. The Real Gears are moving well, I haven't seen Meantime and the gorilla game controller since I picked up my own. Signal Flare and Offshoot were hanging around well into 2006. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:11, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah the way things went over the summer, I don't think one can objectively call ''any'' of the movie toyline "shelfwarmers" in the truest sense. At least in the case of the actual transforming toys rather than all the tie-in merchandise, nearly every store has had trouble keeping them on the shelves.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 04:31, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Power-Up is the only RGR who I'd say would qualify as a shelfwarmer. Everyone eles moved and moved well... and I've hit a LOT of stores in a fair few states since the movei-line launch. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 13:26, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Swindle and Bonecrusher in Germany. Seriously. I know I might sound like a broken record, but these fuckers are STILL warming the pegs in half a dozen stores I visited over the past few weeks, and that's more than three months after the two of them first came out. One TRU store even still has TWO ENTIRE SHELVES full of them.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 19:57, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Supreme Cheetor and Alternators Swindle should be added to this page, I think. Also, I don't know if it was only my area that was like this, but the stores in my area were LOADED with Drill Bit and Manterror for years, even after Beast Machines was on the shelves and even after Transquito and BW Scavenger finally vanished. Wal-Mart, Target, K-Mart (ESPECIALLY K-Mart), even the GROCERY STORES had these guys flooding the shelves for years. They made it hard to get early Beast Machines toys until the stores finally decided to take them off the shelves. [[User:Fiction Alchemist|C.V. Reynolds]] 11:15, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

:Oh, excuse me. I should tried to make my comment actually make some... sense. Yes, Drill Bit and Manterror were on the shelves all through the remainder of Beast Wars, but they didn't cause as much trouble as I made out. Some of the stores were giving more space to Transformers at the time, after all. It did briefly seem like Drill Bit and Manterror were disappearing at one point, but they returned in full before Beast Machines. I believe that the stores may have wanted to take one more try to clear their inventory of an ending line, and put out their remaining shelfwarmers in hopes they might actually sell. Much like in the case of the Fuzors, clearance failed to work for these guys as well. Still don't know if any other places were flooded with Drill Bit or Manterror, though. [[User:71.243.235.10|71.243.235.10]] 11:32, 26 December 2007 (UTC) It logged me out while I was typing my message for some reason, so I'm re-signing. Sorry about that. [[User:Fiction Alchemist|C.V. Reynolds]] 11:33, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

As a random aside, and possibly an isolated case, but I remember as late as... I dunno, but the first waves of Toy Biz Marvel Heroes were out, there were still reasonable piles of Insecticons at some toy stores in the Atlanta area. (Specifically, at a Lionel Toy World near my childhood home - I found them while looking for the first Toy-Biz Daredevil, shoulda bought 'em). [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 02:45, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

This might be pointless to ask, but can we get some verification on the shelfwarmer/pegwarmer status of some of these toys, especially Transformers Movie Stockade? I can verify as a personal eyewitness that Movie version Payload is a pegwarmer (my local Wal-Mart store has about two or three pegs filled with nothing but Payload). However, I've only seen Stockade from time to time, so he seems to be quite popular in my area. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 02:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

== Current (April 2009) shelfwarmers... ==

The TRU exclusive Mudflap should probably be mentioned, a shelfwarming redeco of a shelfwarmer. Whose bright idea was this?
Also, is it just my area that seems to have unlimited numbers of original deco Animated Lugnuts? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 21:35, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

It's July and ROTF is out (obviously). Try buying a Voyager Movie 2 anything that isn't fucking Demolishor. I checked pretty much every toyshop worth looking at in London, and only once managed to find Starscream (or indeed anything that wasn't Demolishor).

That's London as in the largest city in the UK. Yeah. {{unsigned|81.154.60.137|16:24, 15 July 2009}}
:Demolishor certainly seems to be around in greater numbers than most other Voyagers here in San Antonio, but I still see a fair number of Starscreams and Stratospheres, a few Megatrons, and sometimes some Optimus Primes. The Fallen and Mixmaster have also shown up, but haven't been refreshed on the shelves as often, at least at the Wal-Marts and Targets to which I've had time to go.
:The point is, while Demolishor may indeed turn out to be shelfwarmer, your local Voyager availability status alone isn't enough to judge. Your situation is regrettable, but not necessarily representative of the situation anywhere beyond London, or at least whatever falls within your definition of "toyshop[s] worth looking at in London".
:Oh—and please don't forget to sign your talk page posts. Click the signature button (second from the right) above the edit window, or type four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 18:19, 15 July 2009 (EDT)

=== as for August 2009... ===

While the fifth wave of Animated STILL haven't reached Poland, there's LOTS AND PLENTY of Jazzes, Oil-Slicks (seriously, who would want this guy...?), Snarls (same here - but Swoops have vanished!) and Soundwaves lying around. Damn, they even started to cut these Deluxes' prices by half in some markets. ...but try buying first wave's Prowl for example. I went on a ''damn shopping crusade'' and in the end I settled for an online shop. And international shopping's is ''really'' expensive. At last I found my Prowl in an obscure toy shop, totally by chance, by the way. I bet it was the last copy around. ''And we're talking 'bout the capital here.'' Ah, the bitter joy of being TF fan while living on the Outer Rim of the galaxy.
-- [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 06:28, 29 August 2009 (EDT)

=== As of March 2010 ===
Big Bad Toy Store claims to be sold out of Battle Unicorns. I just looked. (Darn darn darn darn darn. I want that toy. I smell [[Scalping|scalpers]]). [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 23:09, 15 March 2010 (EDT)

== Japanese movie toys ==

Am i the only one who noticed that they are publishing Japanese movie toys in retail now? I noticed it in Belgium, but i have no idea if the rest of Europe/America has the same trend. If so, could this be considered to be such shelfwarmers that they try to get rid of the Japanese toys in time for the ROTF toy line?(not that i'm complaining...clear windows '76 Bumblebee? battle damage Arcee? count me in!)--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 15:23, 25 April 2009 (EDT)

==Titanium Galvatron==
The major shelfwarmer ever? Titanium Galvatron, he has been lying around in my city for years, and only one store got rid of him, by selling himm at $2. In other stores (just one because the other having him closed and they had like 10 of him) there are about 6 or 7 and there's so little chance of him selling out (has been there for 3 years), that I call the place "Galvatron's lair", and to make matters worse, they STILL have the T.E.C.H. line.[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 20:16, 30 December 2009 (EST)
:Both Titanium Galvatron and the T.E.C.H line are still there, I guess that sets a new record.-[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 03:38, 6 July 2010 (EDT)
::Might come as a shocker for most of you, but Galvatron is STILL there, he appeared to be gone, but it seems he never left. Might have to buy the little guy afterall and erect an altar in his honor.-[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 04:40, 22 April 2011 (EDT)
:::Wow! Just wow. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:13, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

== Mudflap ==

In Northern VA, Mudflap, along with the "Tuner" variant are major shelfwarmers. Is this true in any other places?--[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 15:49, 27 May 2010 (EDT)

He does shelfwarm quite well in France - in my sector, anyway (along with Chromia, Skids and Wheelie...) --[[User:HunterCham|HunterCham]] 16:04, 27 May 2010 (EDT)
: All over the place here. Some stores, he's at least 90% of the peg contents. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:14, 27 May 2010 (EDT)
::Around here (NC foothills) both twins, in all size classes, are major shelfwarmers. When will movie makers learn that trying to force a "kid appeal" character never works? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:45, 6 July 2010 (EDT)
:::He's all over the place here, too. TRU is sold out of all their new stock except for a few HFTD Legends and one PCC, but Tuner Mudflap still dominates. Here's a thread on seibertron.com about it: http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/tuner-mudflap-killed-wal-mart-s-transformer-section-p1101154.php--[[User:Kookaburra|Kookaburra]] 16:04, 21 July 2010 (EDT)
::::I haven't seen him. But then again, I live in Belgium and the local store is full of ROTF Demolishors anyway. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 16:18, 21 July 2010 (EDT)
:::::You know what, Hasbro should never use the name Mudflap again, is cursed. I went to many stores in Texas, Alabama and Florida and every store had Mudflaps and Tuner Mudflaps, in some cases it was the entire Deluxe pricepoint.[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 02:00, 29 July 2010 (EDT)
::::::It's not so much the name that's cursed, as much as it's Hasbro releasing what amounts to practically the same toy twice, within a very short timespan. I know they're going for "recognizability" here but ''GEEZ''. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:05, 29 July 2010 (EDT)
:::::::Plus, it's a crappy toy. It makes the previous [[Mudflap (Cybertron)|Mudflap]] toy look great by comparison. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:16, 29 July 2010 (EDT)
:I wouldn't say "crappy", but Hasbro could of done better. Btw, one of my local Walmart stores in the northern part of South Carolina had plenty of Tuner Mudflaps. Meanwhile, the one closest to me has Sideways and Dead End clogging up the pegs (maybe they should trade some?). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 09:29, 29 July 2010 (EDT)

== Verbosing/De-verbosing ==

Hey, Loki? My cleanup actually made the page shorter (''not'' more verbose), and cut out a lot of redundant adjectives. I also shortened or split a bunch of run-on sentences. And, some of the original text simply makes no sense, like "As the fandom became more aware of the concept of shelfwarmers and as Hasbro changed its strategies in selling toys to retailers, documenting what is and isn't a shelfwarmer became more and more acute." How can ''documenting'' be made more "acute"? So, instead of a wholesale revert, could you tell me which specific bits of my edit you had problems with? 'Cause I still think the last part of this page needs serious cleanup. Thanks! [[User:JW|JW]] 15:10, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
:Looking at a lot of overuse of contractions, quotation marks, and useless parentheses makes it look much less formal like a 14-year-old wrote it. Besides, filesize is not inversely proportionate to the amount of useful information contained within the article; sure you could make it shorter ''and'' cut out verboseness, but it is possible to have more uneeded words with a shorter page by cutting out useful information in favor of the text in question. Special symbols like quotation marks and parentheses should be used sparingly, opt to learn how to use semicolons effectively and how to word sentences to stress certain words or phrases without quotation marks. As for "How can documenting be made more "acute"?", acute means sharp and so can mean clear like a clear command or sentence, resulting in the sentence meaning "Documenting can be made clearer by presenting more accurate information" without so many words by using the word "acute". Also, don't fuss about your edit being reverted. In this case, I reverted it so while you are making a better cleanup the rest of us don't have to read your not up to par changes in the meantime. Although there are [[User:Detour|some]] [[User:Eire|people]] who are very fussy about ''their pages'' being edited in a way they don't necessarily like, I don't revert edits for reasons like that. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 15:29, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::Loki, I'm the author or co-author of a dozen or so books (available through Amazon; tell your friends!), so I do know my way around grammar. And I'm not making a fuss, I'm beginning a discussion. Third, while "acute" does indeed mean "sharp", "severe", "penetrating", "brief", or "sensitive", it does not mean "clear" or "easy" in normal usage. If you can point to an example elsewhere where it's used that way, I'd be enlightened.
::Regardless, thank you for your reply. If I feel a need to edit this page again, I'll start with a strict trim for length, so we can take things one step at a time. [[User:JW|JW]] 15:44, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
:::If I should cite where acute can mean clear, then you should cite what books you authored because all I have to go on about your knowledge of grammar is that you play with legos, not that making lego creations at your high caliber is a bad thing but it does make me think that grammar is the least of your worries. At least you can spell the word "grammar" as I see not a whole lot of people can around here. Immediately demanding as to why I edited your edits a minute after I made them does seem like you were making a fuss over it, but at least I am not the type to start a mediocre playground argument. Hell, writing an argument that is boiled down to "I did this wonderful thing that automatically makes me smart" sounds like you made it up just to try to impress me, however shamelessly and soullessly advertizing it in the same sentence also makes me give you the benefit of the doubt. But do not worry, another user has already put your edit back on top, not that I agree with his edits either. I am not re-reverting that edit because I do not want to look like those who just revert every single revertation without a written reason like [[User:Khajidha|that person]] to any of the moderators. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 16:00, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::::I reverted it because JW had clarified several sentences and reduced the verbosity of the paragraph. Also, I question the validity of the grammatical opinions of a person who uses verbose as a verb (I'm giving JW the benefit of the doubt that his section header is simply playing off of your usage). Not to mention that there is no such word as "revertation", it's reversion. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:08, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
:::::Playing? Moi? Thanks for the positive vote, Khajidha. I was worried I'd lost my touch. [[User:JW|JW]] 16:27, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::::::[[Furmanism|Just what are you playing at]], JW? Sorry, had to do it :) --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 16:43, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
:::::::Hey, my Furmanism days are ''over, '''fin-''''' uh, completed. Um. [[User:JW|JW]] 16:46, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::::::I did change a few things that I felt were still unclear or clunky. I also removed pipes from links that didn't need them ([[retool]]s instead of [[Retool|retools]]).--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:45, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::::''then you should cite what books you authored''
::::The first link on my user page is to a bibliography. My real name is also there, and can be used to search on Amazon. Loki, may I ask a personal question? Your writing is very precise and usually correct, but kinda stilted. Is English not your first langauge? For example, "Hell, writing an argument that is boiled down to..." is arguably okay, but would much more often be written as, "Hell, writing an argument that boils down to..." or even, "Hell, you wrote an argument that boils down to..." Further, you used "advertizing", which is a very rare spelling of the word, and you didn't capitalize "Lego". So, I ask, because you intend to be this Wiki's "Grammar Nazi", and I'm curious about your bona fides. Please let me know if I offend.
::::(Also, dude, this is a website about robot toys. Getting condescending because I also "play with legos" {sic} is ''inane.'') [[User:JW|JW]] 16:23, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
:::::It's best not to take someone's user name too seriously. I personally couldn't think of anything better as my real name isn't too good and flashy of a screen name. Sure, I may have made a few mistakes here and there but everyone does. English most definitely is my first language, but I have read many a book by some authors who don't have a very good grasp on it plus a few southern local trends do play a subtle part in my method of speech. Usually I do not police my writing on the internet with as much scrutiny as demonstrated in places like in my personal writing or even writing for an academic assignment where editing myself up to par with my own standards requires contant editing in bursts, as you can probably see in my user contributions. Sometimes my train of thought exceeds the speed that I can type at and some words get lost in the [[void]] and don't get typed down and so look horrible. Besides, most of the edits that live up to my screen name are for punctuation like too many commas or misuse of colons and semicolons, though I do rarely alter the structure of a sentence so it sounds ''right'', whatever that may mean to any one person. Overall, you seem more like the kind of person I could get along with... grammatically, of course. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 17:15, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::::::Lord knows I can be obsessive about commas, too. [[User:JW|JW]] 18:52, 27 September 2010 (EDT)

== Animated shelfwarmers ==

[[Snarl (Animated)|Snarl]] and [[Oil Slick (Animated)|Oil Slick]], anyone? All of the Toys R Us locations I've been to recently (in Canada and the USA) are packed with these guys. While Walmart and Target have gotten rid of Animated products to make room for 2010 and Generations, Toys R Us has the new lines while leaving Snarl and Oil Slick to lie around. Plus, someone above me mentioned them. There were also 11 (I counted) Atomic Lugnuts, but I don't think he's shelfwarming nearly as bad as the other two. Do they deserve a mention in the article? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:36, 13 October 2010 (EDT)
:Around here Snarl is clogging shelves but Oil Slick sells about as well as any other animated figure. The squadrons of Lugnuts (both decos) eventually disappeared after several months. Animated Ratchet is possibly the biggest shelfwarmer at my local TRU. Arcee, Rodimus, even Ironhide disappear instantly, this guy stays and stays. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:04, 13 October 2010 (EDT)
::At my TRU it's the same, with a lone Electrostatic Soundwave as the only non-Cybertronian Ratchet hold out.--[[User:Kookaburra|Kookaburra]] 21:16, 14 October 2010 (EDT)
:::Animated is pretty much all sold out where I am. Even the single, solitary Lugnut that had been hanging around for months is gone. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 02:12, 15 October 2010 (EDT)

== The Retail Cross Reference Conundrum ==

Something I'm not immediately seeing described in brief Google searches or here in this wiki is what I've taken to calling the "Cross Reference Conundrum" and that's when retail cross references (the store's computer system treating different toys of the same class and price as if they were the same item for stocking purposes) forces the unpopular toys to stick around taking up space and filling the store's count and end up blocking the popular ones from either shipping or, in the case of less-than-mindful employees, being stocked despite boxes sitting in the backroom. I work at a retail store that sells Transformers and since a single space can be dedicated to a great many toys from the same size class/price point, the store's quota is filled because it has all it "needs", even if the majority (or heck, even every last one) is some lousy repaint nobody wants to buy. Sure enough, when the space finally does sell down at whatever pathetic pace and the popular ones are restocked, they sell out in no time. I've seen some popular Voyager Class toys sell in mere hours after they were stocked into space previously occupied by other Voyagers that took a few weeks to sell. I swear, the existence of cross references and its unintended survival-of-the-least-popular side effect likely reduces some sales to a fraction of what they would be, and I'm amazed retailers and toy manufacturers like Hasbro tolerate this. (Or am I mistaken and do sales, whether fast or slow always somehow equalize in the end?)

Anyone else note this phenomenon in the world of transformers, or even toys in general? I'm not certain what search terms would bring up discussions about it, but I've even had employees at other, unrelated stores tell me "If we get it, it will appear here, but until these sell down we won't be receiving anymore." or words to that effect. Any on-line references could justify a mention in this article, but without such refs, I'd just be ranting with such an inclusion.

Thanks, {{unsigned|4.254.80.136}}
: That makes a lot of sense, and if we can get a little corroboration would be a valuable contribution to the article. [[User:JW|JW]] 10:14, 6 December 2010 (EST)
::I spoke to a Hasbro rep who was in my local Walmart a few months ago about this. According to her, Walmart uses the system described above where as long as there is product on the shelf new orders won't be made even if all 49 figures are Tuner Mudflaps. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:24, 7 December 2010 (EST)
:::Yeah, that sounds exactly right. Everything is done by item count, and if every Deluxe Transformer whether Generations, HFTD, ROTF, or RTS, is scanned as TRANS DLX FIG then as long as there are an adequate number of TRANS DLX FIG on the shelf, there's no need to put more out. (This also leads to cases where ostensibly JUST Hunt for the Decepticons Deluxes are on sale, but all Deluxes ring up at the sale price.) We just need this clarified and explained by a reliable and citable reference. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 10:48, 7 December 2010 (EST)
::::Yeah, I knew my conversation wouldn't be a reliable source, just confirming that the general idea is correct and should be explored. I also think that the different main lines are inventoried seperately, meaning that Generations would get reordered even if HFTD was still clogging shelves. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:56, 7 December 2010 (EST)
:::::Having worked in one of the aforementioned toy departments, I can confirm that Khajidha's information from the Hasbro rep is correct. I believe Khajidha's right about main lines being inventoried separately as well. I left toys before Universe 2003 started so I don't know for sure how concurrent lines are being handled, but I do know that RID, Armada, and Energon were not cross-referenced with each other. Have to wonder who would be a reliable and citable source that would also be willing to verify our information in a reliable and citable way? I don't see Wal-Mart wanting to verify this at such a level. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 12:10, 7 December 2010 (EST)
::::::This sucks. Those Tuner Mudflaps are gonna limit the deluxe stock of Transformers for YEARS! --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 17:36, 7 December 2010 (EST)

== UK Entertainer shelfwarmers as of June 2011 ==

Seems that ROTF Mixmaster is still at Entertainer stores across the West Midlands of the UK (possibly nationwide) in bloody fleets. There must've been a massive glut of the middle waves of ROTF because skids, mudflap and chromia did the same and it meant Generations and RTS never made it onto their shelves. HFTD never made it past wave 1. What's truly sad is a recent fleet of those first movie ''unleashed'' Megatron statues have suddenly arrived and nobody gives a toss. Animated Shockwaves and Skywarps did the same last year but those were desireable. They're still trying to clear out the Bumblebee voice changers as well. [[User:Durge|Durge]] 11:52, 19 June 2011 (EDT)

== Dark of the Moon in Australia (Or at least Brisbane, Queensland) ==

Summed up?

Everywhere. Strafe from the 2010-11 lineup is fairly unpopular too (Though, honestly, Wave 3 was skipped entirely and wave 4 only appeared in May of -2012-)

Most of it comes from stubborn refusal to mark down anything at most stores along with a HEAVY glut of wave 1 toys, Leader Bumblebee and Ironhide are still sitting at a 'normal' $70. Most deluxe toys are knocked down a few dollars ($20-30 standard, $15 on 'sale') but aren't moving at all.

I should have taken a picture when I was in the city, an eight foot span that was six foot tall FILLED with DotM toys on pegs at least six deep. I'll post a catalog page next time I get a toy one considering they're ALL filled with DotM toys in an effort to get them to go.[[Special:Contributions/114.77.169.116|114.77.169.116]] 11:54, 7 August 2012 (EDT)

==Prime Bumblebee==
Is it safe to say that Prime Bumblebee (and his remold/recolors to some degree) are pretty much Shelfwarmers? --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 12:08, 7 August 2012 (EDT)
: Not unless they're still there next year. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:17, 7 August 2012 (EDT)
::Yeah, a toy has to stay on the shelf long after it STOPPED shipping to be a shelfwarmer. BBs problem is that Hasbro has been and still is shipping him in huge numbers compaired to everyone else. He comes at the problem from an entirely different direction. An "Overshipper" rather than a "Shelfwarmer" if you will. At least so far.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 15:29, 7 August 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Shelfwarmer

2012-08-07T19:29:34Z

76.28.76.206: /* Prime Bumblebee */

Real Gears move O.K. in my neck of the woods.

Signal flare and Offshoot however, despite their awesomeness, lasted for years.[[User:Chiasaur11|Chiasaur11]] 03:30, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

:Yeah, I'm not sure the entire Real Gear line could be lumped in as "pegwarmers". I know there's some give and take depending on where you're located, but it's not like there's pegs and pegs of these things just sittin' around for months on end... -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 03:59, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
::...well, there are everyplace I've looked since July. I guess it is a regional difference, but if so it's a very stark and extreme one.--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 13:18, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
::I'd say Signal Flare and Offshoot should replace the Real Gears. The Real Gears are moving well, I haven't seen Meantime and the gorilla game controller since I picked up my own. Signal Flare and Offshoot were hanging around well into 2006. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:11, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah the way things went over the summer, I don't think one can objectively call ''any'' of the movie toyline "shelfwarmers" in the truest sense. At least in the case of the actual transforming toys rather than all the tie-in merchandise, nearly every store has had trouble keeping them on the shelves.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 04:31, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Power-Up is the only RGR who I'd say would qualify as a shelfwarmer. Everyone eles moved and moved well... and I've hit a LOT of stores in a fair few states since the movei-line launch. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 13:26, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Swindle and Bonecrusher in Germany. Seriously. I know I might sound like a broken record, but these fuckers are STILL warming the pegs in half a dozen stores I visited over the past few weeks, and that's more than three months after the two of them first came out. One TRU store even still has TWO ENTIRE SHELVES full of them.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 19:57, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Supreme Cheetor and Alternators Swindle should be added to this page, I think. Also, I don't know if it was only my area that was like this, but the stores in my area were LOADED with Drill Bit and Manterror for years, even after Beast Machines was on the shelves and even after Transquito and BW Scavenger finally vanished. Wal-Mart, Target, K-Mart (ESPECIALLY K-Mart), even the GROCERY STORES had these guys flooding the shelves for years. They made it hard to get early Beast Machines toys until the stores finally decided to take them off the shelves. [[User:Fiction Alchemist|C.V. Reynolds]] 11:15, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

:Oh, excuse me. I should tried to make my comment actually make some... sense. Yes, Drill Bit and Manterror were on the shelves all through the remainder of Beast Wars, but they didn't cause as much trouble as I made out. Some of the stores were giving more space to Transformers at the time, after all. It did briefly seem like Drill Bit and Manterror were disappearing at one point, but they returned in full before Beast Machines. I believe that the stores may have wanted to take one more try to clear their inventory of an ending line, and put out their remaining shelfwarmers in hopes they might actually sell. Much like in the case of the Fuzors, clearance failed to work for these guys as well. Still don't know if any other places were flooded with Drill Bit or Manterror, though. [[User:71.243.235.10|71.243.235.10]] 11:32, 26 December 2007 (UTC) It logged me out while I was typing my message for some reason, so I'm re-signing. Sorry about that. [[User:Fiction Alchemist|C.V. Reynolds]] 11:33, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

As a random aside, and possibly an isolated case, but I remember as late as... I dunno, but the first waves of Toy Biz Marvel Heroes were out, there were still reasonable piles of Insecticons at some toy stores in the Atlanta area. (Specifically, at a Lionel Toy World near my childhood home - I found them while looking for the first Toy-Biz Daredevil, shoulda bought 'em). [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 02:45, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

This might be pointless to ask, but can we get some verification on the shelfwarmer/pegwarmer status of some of these toys, especially Transformers Movie Stockade? I can verify as a personal eyewitness that Movie version Payload is a pegwarmer (my local Wal-Mart store has about two or three pegs filled with nothing but Payload). However, I've only seen Stockade from time to time, so he seems to be quite popular in my area. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 02:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

== Current (April 2009) shelfwarmers... ==

The TRU exclusive Mudflap should probably be mentioned, a shelfwarming redeco of a shelfwarmer. Whose bright idea was this?
Also, is it just my area that seems to have unlimited numbers of original deco Animated Lugnuts? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 21:35, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

It's July and ROTF is out (obviously). Try buying a Voyager Movie 2 anything that isn't fucking Demolishor. I checked pretty much every toyshop worth looking at in London, and only once managed to find Starscream (or indeed anything that wasn't Demolishor).

That's London as in the largest city in the UK. Yeah. {{unsigned|81.154.60.137|16:24, 15 July 2009}}
:Demolishor certainly seems to be around in greater numbers than most other Voyagers here in San Antonio, but I still see a fair number of Starscreams and Stratospheres, a few Megatrons, and sometimes some Optimus Primes. The Fallen and Mixmaster have also shown up, but haven't been refreshed on the shelves as often, at least at the Wal-Marts and Targets to which I've had time to go.
:The point is, while Demolishor may indeed turn out to be shelfwarmer, your local Voyager availability status alone isn't enough to judge. Your situation is regrettable, but not necessarily representative of the situation anywhere beyond London, or at least whatever falls within your definition of "toyshop[s] worth looking at in London".
:Oh—and please don't forget to sign your talk page posts. Click the signature button (second from the right) above the edit window, or type four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 18:19, 15 July 2009 (EDT)

=== as for August 2009... ===

While the fifth wave of Animated STILL haven't reached Poland, there's LOTS AND PLENTY of Jazzes, Oil-Slicks (seriously, who would want this guy...?), Snarls (same here - but Swoops have vanished!) and Soundwaves lying around. Damn, they even started to cut these Deluxes' prices by half in some markets. ...but try buying first wave's Prowl for example. I went on a ''damn shopping crusade'' and in the end I settled for an online shop. And international shopping's is ''really'' expensive. At last I found my Prowl in an obscure toy shop, totally by chance, by the way. I bet it was the last copy around. ''And we're talking 'bout the capital here.'' Ah, the bitter joy of being TF fan while living on the Outer Rim of the galaxy.
-- [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 06:28, 29 August 2009 (EDT)

=== As of March 2010 ===
Big Bad Toy Store claims to be sold out of Battle Unicorns. I just looked. (Darn darn darn darn darn. I want that toy. I smell [[Scalping|scalpers]]). [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 23:09, 15 March 2010 (EDT)

== Japanese movie toys ==

Am i the only one who noticed that they are publishing Japanese movie toys in retail now? I noticed it in Belgium, but i have no idea if the rest of Europe/America has the same trend. If so, could this be considered to be such shelfwarmers that they try to get rid of the Japanese toys in time for the ROTF toy line?(not that i'm complaining...clear windows '76 Bumblebee? battle damage Arcee? count me in!)--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 15:23, 25 April 2009 (EDT)

==Titanium Galvatron==
The major shelfwarmer ever? Titanium Galvatron, he has been lying around in my city for years, and only one store got rid of him, by selling himm at $2. In other stores (just one because the other having him closed and they had like 10 of him) there are about 6 or 7 and there's so little chance of him selling out (has been there for 3 years), that I call the place "Galvatron's lair", and to make matters worse, they STILL have the T.E.C.H. line.[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 20:16, 30 December 2009 (EST)
:Both Titanium Galvatron and the T.E.C.H line are still there, I guess that sets a new record.-[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 03:38, 6 July 2010 (EDT)
::Might come as a shocker for most of you, but Galvatron is STILL there, he appeared to be gone, but it seems he never left. Might have to buy the little guy afterall and erect an altar in his honor.-[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 04:40, 22 April 2011 (EDT)
:::Wow! Just wow. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:13, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

== Mudflap ==

In Northern VA, Mudflap, along with the "Tuner" variant are major shelfwarmers. Is this true in any other places?--[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 15:49, 27 May 2010 (EDT)

He does shelfwarm quite well in France - in my sector, anyway (along with Chromia, Skids and Wheelie...) --[[User:HunterCham|HunterCham]] 16:04, 27 May 2010 (EDT)
: All over the place here. Some stores, he's at least 90% of the peg contents. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:14, 27 May 2010 (EDT)
::Around here (NC foothills) both twins, in all size classes, are major shelfwarmers. When will movie makers learn that trying to force a "kid appeal" character never works? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:45, 6 July 2010 (EDT)
:::He's all over the place here, too. TRU is sold out of all their new stock except for a few HFTD Legends and one PCC, but Tuner Mudflap still dominates. Here's a thread on seibertron.com about it: http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/tuner-mudflap-killed-wal-mart-s-transformer-section-p1101154.php--[[User:Kookaburra|Kookaburra]] 16:04, 21 July 2010 (EDT)
::::I haven't seen him. But then again, I live in Belgium and the local store is full of ROTF Demolishors anyway. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 16:18, 21 July 2010 (EDT)
:::::You know what, Hasbro should never use the name Mudflap again, is cursed. I went to many stores in Texas, Alabama and Florida and every store had Mudflaps and Tuner Mudflaps, in some cases it was the entire Deluxe pricepoint.[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 02:00, 29 July 2010 (EDT)
::::::It's not so much the name that's cursed, as much as it's Hasbro releasing what amounts to practically the same toy twice, within a very short timespan. I know they're going for "recognizability" here but ''GEEZ''. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:05, 29 July 2010 (EDT)
:::::::Plus, it's a crappy toy. It makes the previous [[Mudflap (Cybertron)|Mudflap]] toy look great by comparison. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:16, 29 July 2010 (EDT)
:I wouldn't say "crappy", but Hasbro could of done better. Btw, one of my local Walmart stores in the northern part of South Carolina had plenty of Tuner Mudflaps. Meanwhile, the one closest to me has Sideways and Dead End clogging up the pegs (maybe they should trade some?). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 09:29, 29 July 2010 (EDT)

== Verbosing/De-verbosing ==

Hey, Loki? My cleanup actually made the page shorter (''not'' more verbose), and cut out a lot of redundant adjectives. I also shortened or split a bunch of run-on sentences. And, some of the original text simply makes no sense, like "As the fandom became more aware of the concept of shelfwarmers and as Hasbro changed its strategies in selling toys to retailers, documenting what is and isn't a shelfwarmer became more and more acute." How can ''documenting'' be made more "acute"? So, instead of a wholesale revert, could you tell me which specific bits of my edit you had problems with? 'Cause I still think the last part of this page needs serious cleanup. Thanks! [[User:JW|JW]] 15:10, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
:Looking at a lot of overuse of contractions, quotation marks, and useless parentheses makes it look much less formal like a 14-year-old wrote it. Besides, filesize is not inversely proportionate to the amount of useful information contained within the article; sure you could make it shorter ''and'' cut out verboseness, but it is possible to have more uneeded words with a shorter page by cutting out useful information in favor of the text in question. Special symbols like quotation marks and parentheses should be used sparingly, opt to learn how to use semicolons effectively and how to word sentences to stress certain words or phrases without quotation marks. As for "How can documenting be made more "acute"?", acute means sharp and so can mean clear like a clear command or sentence, resulting in the sentence meaning "Documenting can be made clearer by presenting more accurate information" without so many words by using the word "acute". Also, don't fuss about your edit being reverted. In this case, I reverted it so while you are making a better cleanup the rest of us don't have to read your not up to par changes in the meantime. Although there are [[User:Detour|some]] [[User:Eire|people]] who are very fussy about ''their pages'' being edited in a way they don't necessarily like, I don't revert edits for reasons like that. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 15:29, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::Loki, I'm the author or co-author of a dozen or so books (available through Amazon; tell your friends!), so I do know my way around grammar. And I'm not making a fuss, I'm beginning a discussion. Third, while "acute" does indeed mean "sharp", "severe", "penetrating", "brief", or "sensitive", it does not mean "clear" or "easy" in normal usage. If you can point to an example elsewhere where it's used that way, I'd be enlightened.
::Regardless, thank you for your reply. If I feel a need to edit this page again, I'll start with a strict trim for length, so we can take things one step at a time. [[User:JW|JW]] 15:44, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
:::If I should cite where acute can mean clear, then you should cite what books you authored because all I have to go on about your knowledge of grammar is that you play with legos, not that making lego creations at your high caliber is a bad thing but it does make me think that grammar is the least of your worries. At least you can spell the word "grammar" as I see not a whole lot of people can around here. Immediately demanding as to why I edited your edits a minute after I made them does seem like you were making a fuss over it, but at least I am not the type to start a mediocre playground argument. Hell, writing an argument that is boiled down to "I did this wonderful thing that automatically makes me smart" sounds like you made it up just to try to impress me, however shamelessly and soullessly advertizing it in the same sentence also makes me give you the benefit of the doubt. But do not worry, another user has already put your edit back on top, not that I agree with his edits either. I am not re-reverting that edit because I do not want to look like those who just revert every single revertation without a written reason like [[User:Khajidha|that person]] to any of the moderators. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 16:00, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::::I reverted it because JW had clarified several sentences and reduced the verbosity of the paragraph. Also, I question the validity of the grammatical opinions of a person who uses verbose as a verb (I'm giving JW the benefit of the doubt that his section header is simply playing off of your usage). Not to mention that there is no such word as "revertation", it's reversion. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:08, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
:::::Playing? Moi? Thanks for the positive vote, Khajidha. I was worried I'd lost my touch. [[User:JW|JW]] 16:27, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::::::[[Furmanism|Just what are you playing at]], JW? Sorry, had to do it :) --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 16:43, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
:::::::Hey, my Furmanism days are ''over, '''fin-''''' uh, completed. Um. [[User:JW|JW]] 16:46, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::::::I did change a few things that I felt were still unclear or clunky. I also removed pipes from links that didn't need them ([[retool]]s instead of [[Retool|retools]]).--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:45, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::::''then you should cite what books you authored''
::::The first link on my user page is to a bibliography. My real name is also there, and can be used to search on Amazon. Loki, may I ask a personal question? Your writing is very precise and usually correct, but kinda stilted. Is English not your first langauge? For example, "Hell, writing an argument that is boiled down to..." is arguably okay, but would much more often be written as, "Hell, writing an argument that boils down to..." or even, "Hell, you wrote an argument that boils down to..." Further, you used "advertizing", which is a very rare spelling of the word, and you didn't capitalize "Lego". So, I ask, because you intend to be this Wiki's "Grammar Nazi", and I'm curious about your bona fides. Please let me know if I offend.
::::(Also, dude, this is a website about robot toys. Getting condescending because I also "play with legos" {sic} is ''inane.'') [[User:JW|JW]] 16:23, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
:::::It's best not to take someone's user name too seriously. I personally couldn't think of anything better as my real name isn't too good and flashy of a screen name. Sure, I may have made a few mistakes here and there but everyone does. English most definitely is my first language, but I have read many a book by some authors who don't have a very good grasp on it plus a few southern local trends do play a subtle part in my method of speech. Usually I do not police my writing on the internet with as much scrutiny as demonstrated in places like in my personal writing or even writing for an academic assignment where editing myself up to par with my own standards requires contant editing in bursts, as you can probably see in my user contributions. Sometimes my train of thought exceeds the speed that I can type at and some words get lost in the [[void]] and don't get typed down and so look horrible. Besides, most of the edits that live up to my screen name are for punctuation like too many commas or misuse of colons and semicolons, though I do rarely alter the structure of a sentence so it sounds ''right'', whatever that may mean to any one person. Overall, you seem more like the kind of person I could get along with... grammatically, of course. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 17:15, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::::::Lord knows I can be obsessive about commas, too. [[User:JW|JW]] 18:52, 27 September 2010 (EDT)

== Animated shelfwarmers ==

[[Snarl (Animated)|Snarl]] and [[Oil Slick (Animated)|Oil Slick]], anyone? All of the Toys R Us locations I've been to recently (in Canada and the USA) are packed with these guys. While Walmart and Target have gotten rid of Animated products to make room for 2010 and Generations, Toys R Us has the new lines while leaving Snarl and Oil Slick to lie around. Plus, someone above me mentioned them. There were also 11 (I counted) Atomic Lugnuts, but I don't think he's shelfwarming nearly as bad as the other two. Do they deserve a mention in the article? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:36, 13 October 2010 (EDT)
:Around here Snarl is clogging shelves but Oil Slick sells about as well as any other animated figure. The squadrons of Lugnuts (both decos) eventually disappeared after several months. Animated Ratchet is possibly the biggest shelfwarmer at my local TRU. Arcee, Rodimus, even Ironhide disappear instantly, this guy stays and stays. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:04, 13 October 2010 (EDT)
::At my TRU it's the same, with a lone Electrostatic Soundwave as the only non-Cybertronian Ratchet hold out.--[[User:Kookaburra|Kookaburra]] 21:16, 14 October 2010 (EDT)
:::Animated is pretty much all sold out where I am. Even the single, solitary Lugnut that had been hanging around for months is gone. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 02:12, 15 October 2010 (EDT)

== The Retail Cross Reference Conundrum ==

Something I'm not immediately seeing described in brief Google searches or here in this wiki is what I've taken to calling the "Cross Reference Conundrum" and that's when retail cross references (the store's computer system treating different toys of the same class and price as if they were the same item for stocking purposes) forces the unpopular toys to stick around taking up space and filling the store's count and end up blocking the popular ones from either shipping or, in the case of less-than-mindful employees, being stocked despite boxes sitting in the backroom. I work at a retail store that sells Transformers and since a single space can be dedicated to a great many toys from the same size class/price point, the store's quota is filled because it has all it "needs", even if the majority (or heck, even every last one) is some lousy repaint nobody wants to buy. Sure enough, when the space finally does sell down at whatever pathetic pace and the popular ones are restocked, they sell out in no time. I've seen some popular Voyager Class toys sell in mere hours after they were stocked into space previously occupied by other Voyagers that took a few weeks to sell. I swear, the existence of cross references and its unintended survival-of-the-least-popular side effect likely reduces some sales to a fraction of what they would be, and I'm amazed retailers and toy manufacturers like Hasbro tolerate this. (Or am I mistaken and do sales, whether fast or slow always somehow equalize in the end?)

Anyone else note this phenomenon in the world of transformers, or even toys in general? I'm not certain what search terms would bring up discussions about it, but I've even had employees at other, unrelated stores tell me "If we get it, it will appear here, but until these sell down we won't be receiving anymore." or words to that effect. Any on-line references could justify a mention in this article, but without such refs, I'd just be ranting with such an inclusion.

Thanks, {{unsigned|4.254.80.136}}
: That makes a lot of sense, and if we can get a little corroboration would be a valuable contribution to the article. [[User:JW|JW]] 10:14, 6 December 2010 (EST)
::I spoke to a Hasbro rep who was in my local Walmart a few months ago about this. According to her, Walmart uses the system described above where as long as there is product on the shelf new orders won't be made even if all 49 figures are Tuner Mudflaps. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:24, 7 December 2010 (EST)
:::Yeah, that sounds exactly right. Everything is done by item count, and if every Deluxe Transformer whether Generations, HFTD, ROTF, or RTS, is scanned as TRANS DLX FIG then as long as there are an adequate number of TRANS DLX FIG on the shelf, there's no need to put more out. (This also leads to cases where ostensibly JUST Hunt for the Decepticons Deluxes are on sale, but all Deluxes ring up at the sale price.) We just need this clarified and explained by a reliable and citable reference. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 10:48, 7 December 2010 (EST)
::::Yeah, I knew my conversation wouldn't be a reliable source, just confirming that the general idea is correct and should be explored. I also think that the different main lines are inventoried seperately, meaning that Generations would get reordered even if HFTD was still clogging shelves. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:56, 7 December 2010 (EST)
:::::Having worked in one of the aforementioned toy departments, I can confirm that Khajidha's information from the Hasbro rep is correct. I believe Khajidha's right about main lines being inventoried separately as well. I left toys before Universe 2003 started so I don't know for sure how concurrent lines are being handled, but I do know that RID, Armada, and Energon were not cross-referenced with each other. Have to wonder who would be a reliable and citable source that would also be willing to verify our information in a reliable and citable way? I don't see Wal-Mart wanting to verify this at such a level. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 12:10, 7 December 2010 (EST)
::::::This sucks. Those Tuner Mudflaps are gonna limit the deluxe stock of Transformers for YEARS! --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 17:36, 7 December 2010 (EST)

== UK Entertainer shelfwarmers as of June 2011 ==

Seems that ROTF Mixmaster is still at Entertainer stores across the West Midlands of the UK (possibly nationwide) in bloody fleets. There must've been a massive glut of the middle waves of ROTF because skids, mudflap and chromia did the same and it meant Generations and RTS never made it onto their shelves. HFTD never made it past wave 1. What's truly sad is a recent fleet of those first movie ''unleashed'' Megatron statues have suddenly arrived and nobody gives a toss. Animated Shockwaves and Skywarps did the same last year but those were desireable. They're still trying to clear out the Bumblebee voice changers as well. [[User:Durge|Durge]] 11:52, 19 June 2011 (EDT)

== Dark of the Moon in Australia (Or at least Brisbane, Queensland) ==

Summed up?

Everywhere. Strafe from the 2010-11 lineup is fairly unpopular too (Though, honestly, Wave 3 was skipped entirely and wave 4 only appeared in May of -2012-)

Most of it comes from stubborn refusal to mark down anything at most stores along with a HEAVY glut of wave 1 toys, Leader Bumblebee and Ironhide are still sitting at a 'normal' $70. Most deluxe toys are knocked down a few dollars ($20-30 standard, $15 on 'sale') but aren't moving at all.

I should have taken a picture when I was in the city, an eight foot span that was six foot tall FILLED with DotM toys on pegs at least six deep. I'll post a catalog page next time I get a toy one considering they're ALL filled with DotM toys in an effort to get them to go.[[Special:Contributions/114.77.169.116|114.77.169.116]] 11:54, 7 August 2012 (EDT)

==Prime Bumblebee==
Is it safe to say that Prime Bumblebee (and his remold/recolors to some degree) are pretty much Shelfwarmers? --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 12:08, 7 August 2012 (EDT)
: Not unless they're still there next year. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:17, 7 August 2012 (EDT)
::Yeah, a toy has to stay on the shelf long after it STOPPED shipping to be a shelfwarmer. BBs problem is that Hasbro's has been and still is shipping in huge numbers compaired to everyone else. He comes at the problem from an entirely different direction. An "Overshipper" rather than a "Shelfwarmer" if you will. At least so far.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 15:29, 7 August 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Airachnid (Prime)

2012-08-05T16:42:37Z

76.28.76.206: /* Toy? */

It is written that "Unlike real spiders, Airachnid has compound eyes." 
Perhaps another feature that may distinguish her from spiders is that she walks on ''six'' legs, instead of eight (unless one counted her robotic legs as her 7th and 8th). [[User:Sharky857|Sharky857]] 12:15, 17 April 2011 (EDT)
:I figured that since she keeps her arms in...alternate mode (can't really call it a beast mode) she has the necessary eight limbs. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 12:24, 17 April 2011 (EDT)
:Great minds think alike SFH, I was also about to post that Airachnid's arms are the last set in her eight limbs. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 12:27, 17 April 2011 (EDT)
::Hmm, you're right. I never counted her arms as 7th and 8th leg, because... Well, they are arms and not legs. Anyway, I see your point. [[User:Sharky857|Sharky857]] 14:50, 17 April 2011 (EDT)

She turned into a drill at the end.--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 15:57, 17 April 2011 (EDT)
:She used her legs to drill, she didn't transform into one. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 16:10, 17 April 2011 (EDT)
::Correct, she was still in her robot mode when she drilled. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:14, 17 April 2011 (EDT)

Can we put this somewhere in the article?: ''"Airachnid transforms from a spider-like robot to a robot-like spider."''
 - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 6:25 PM, 17 April 2011 A.D.

== Possible jet mode? ==

I saw what looked like two halves of a jet's cockpit on the backs of Airachnid's shoulders. Is that worth noting, or should it wait until we see that she actually has some sort of jet mode?
 - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 10:40 PM, 18 April 2011 A.D.
: Everyone seems to be pretty sure she's a helicopter. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:51, 18 April 2011 (EDT)
::That makes ''more'' sense!

::- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 10:58 PM, 18 April 2011 A.D.

==G1 Insecticon colors?==

Can someone explain to me why this info should be on this page when it can't be proven this was an intentional homage?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 23:56, 18 April 2011 (EDT)
: I kind of think the burden of proof is on you to prove that a Bug Decepticon in predominantly black with gold and purple is entirely by accident. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:03, 19 April 2011 (EDT)
:: A spider-like female decepticon with a color scheme which is '''specifically''' attempting to homage the 3 original male Decepticon insects? If she shared any design or character attributes with the Insecticons I'd find it more likely, but as is... I note it as a possibility. But I suppose mabye I'm just getting a little too concerned about getting an official source for the info. Actually, I'm surprised no one is arguing that they are Blackarachnia's colors.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:53, 19 April 2011 (EDT)
:::Blackarachnia is more purple and less black. I'd sooner believe Arachnid's colours to be a homage to the Insecticons... Even if I feel like raging that spiders aren't insects. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 01:48, 19 April 2011 (EDT)
::::Airachnid has compound eyes like an insect's, though. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:36, 19 April 2011 (EDT)
:::::Also there's the episode's pun about Jack and the "large insects" he has to swat at the beginning and end. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:48, 19 April 2011 (EDT)
::::Actually, purple was only introduced on Blackarachnia (character model-wise) with her Transmetal 2 form, and even then wasn't really a staple 'color' for her character until Animated. (Her Beast Machines form was magenta. Yeah, I said it.) [[User:Boy Blunderous|Boy Blunderous]] 23:28, 14 May 2011

:Wouldn't Animated Blackarachnia be a much closer homage?[[Special:Contributions/24.13.125.86|24.13.125.86]] 01:33, 12 May 2011 (EDT)

==Three Modes==

Now that Airachnid's officially confirmed to have a helicopter mode, I believe it is ok to label her a 'Transformer with three modes'. Unless Hasbro officially labels her a Triple Changer.--[[User:Cydra|Cydra]] 02:47, 26 June 2011 (EDT)
: We still don't know if she abandoned the...spider alternate mode (can't really call it a beast mode) so I'd say we wait until we know for sure. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 12:17, 26 June 2011 (EDT)

==Image==
Instead of concrete Airachnid, shouldn't it be an image of her helicopter mode? [[User:Eire]] Jun 26 2011 14:40
: Yes, it definitely should. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:34, 26 June 2011 (EDT)
::Is there a reason we couldn't have both? This image is kinda funny, and I figure there will be many (better) opportunities to get a good shot of her altmode. Concrete-covered Airachnid, not so much. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 12:59, 26 June 2011 (EDT)
:::As a guy who's been trying to get altmode pics of people from Prime, I can tell you that no, altmode images are not really all that easy to get. Especially airborne ones. And, frankly, her acquiring her altmode is way more important to her appearance in this episode than a sight gag. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:16, 26 June 2011 (EDT)

==Alt Mode==

Anyone get what kind of attack heilo her alt mode is based on? Kinda reminded me of the cancelled RAH-66 Comanche http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAH-66_Comanche but it could be an attack helicopter currently in service. Possibly a European design as it certainly doesn't resemble the Apache or any of the Cobra variants. -annonimous 6/27/11 12:38 AM EST
: I'm guessing entirely made up, considering it has spider-web-shaped cockpit lines. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:52, 27 June 2011 (EDT)
:: I don't know. Immediately after I posted I went to the Crisscross page and it already said the same thing, that her alt mode appears to be based on a Comanche. The spiderweb pattern could be more of a decroative element to point to Airachnid's nature, which you clearly don't see when she's in her alt mode. My orignal thought when I first saw the episode was to try and find if there was a heilo named black widow, but I don't think there are any named after insects or arachnids. But the lines on the Comanche give it a deadly look, which would suit the character. - annonymous 6/27/11 2:35 AM EST
::: I agree that the resemblance is strong enough that it should be mentioned on her page; at the very least it will give interested persons a place to start when looking for reference

== Maleficent ==

I've removed the anon's claims that the ressemblance was fully intentional, but should that note be kept nonetheless? Seems like a bit of a stretch and it's normally more the rule to keep these kinds of notes to only what's intentional. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 11:38, 27 June 2011 (EDT)
:I think it should be removed. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 12:41, 27 June 2011 (EDT)

== Thumbnail of Airachnid's Vehicle Mode ==

You know, I've just recently saw Airachnid's Stealth Helicopter Mode on this site and it looked awesome. However, should anyone of you wish to make this image a thumbnail on the Airachnid's bio section of this site, could you possibly make one, so that we Transformers fan will get a chance to enlarge it in full resolution in order for us to give a very clear glimpse of what Airachnid's True Altmode will be like?

== The toy that the anons claime she'll have ==

Why do they think she'll have one? Was it rumoured somewhere I don't frequent? Is it out-of-context bollocks? Should this article be semi-protected (assuming that's the one that means "anon no-touchy")? Am I abusing the questions here? [[User:Bobpiecheese|Bobpiecheese]] 07:28, 10 July 2011 (EDT)?
:Seeing as Hasbro applied for an Airachnid trademark.... [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] 09:43, 10 July 2011 (EDT)
:I don't think it's been rumoured anywhere beyond Hasbro's trademark app (which ISTR was a while ago now?) but even if it has, obviously a rumour isn't good enough for a toy to be listed here. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:38, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

== Removal of Note section comment. "Compound Eyes" ==

Can I ask for the removal of the particular note on the section that says she has compound eyes? I removed it but someone placed it back

It is not accurate and I think it should be removed. Of course you can decide to leave it but it really is inaccurate.

1) Just because she has webbing in the eyes to show that effect does not mean they are true compound eyes.

2) To call them that.. well implies compound eyes. If you look up what compound eyes are you would understand this is indeed incorrect. Compound eyes implies just that. Her eyes are not segmented they are not on the sides of her head or extended outward. It is just an assumption and a poor one at that to include such a statement just because of a webbing design.

3) We have seen from her viewpoint and again this supports the facts they are not compound.

At the very least could it be changed up to say it resembles compound eyes?

I doubt anyone will change this up but thanks for at least reading this anyways.

(Sorry if I'm messing things up posting here. I am new and still learning the ways to post. {{unsigned|174.92.174.209}}
:Yeah, I don't think she has compound eyes at all. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:49, 21 October 2011 (EDT)

(Hey thanks a lot for the agreement and consideration for removal. =) )

== Insecticon? ==
okay so with the last episode and her control of the insecticon what kind of con is she decept or insect? [[Special:Contributions/108.38.164.252|108.38.164.252]] 23:46, 31 March 2012 (EDT)
:She's both. The original insecticons were a sub group of decepticons {{unsigned|69.43.213.155}}
::I don't think we can say she's an Insecticon unless she's named as such onscreen or on packaging or somewhere. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:58, 3 May 2012 (EDT)

== Toy? ==

Does Airachnid's toy have the half-spider mode like she does in the show, or she only has a helicopter mode?[[Special:Contributions/71.255.168.14|71.255.168.14]] 11:56, 5 August 2012 (EDT)
Helicopter only.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 12:42, 5 August 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Cybertron Satellite

2012-08-02T18:03:28Z

76.28.76.206: /* NEW PICS! Of all these Primes! */ new section

It's still a good joke, just wanted to point out that RiD Prime IS g1 Prime in Japan and so is covered. End nerdery...--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 07:12, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
:Fire Convoy is not G1 Convoy. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 07:14, 27 April 2012 (EDT)

::: You sure? I thought the whole point of retconning Car Robots into G1 in Japan was that everyone was their G1 selves. If he's is a different bot though, that DOES also explain why he's not on the Satallite, as folks who aren't Prime but are named Convoy are a dollar a dozen in Japan and the display seems to be just for "Optimus Prime"s. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 08:10, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
::::No, he's a different guy from the future. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 08:29, 27 April 2012 (EDT)

== How many? ==

Seriously, how many of these guys are there? Do we have all of them yet? Do we even have most of them? Is there any way of knowing, short of walking through EVERY town in Japan? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:36, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
:[http://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/toy/event/2012/cybertron_satellite/index.html 14], I guess. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 09:39, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
::So, 2 to go... --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:41, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
:Guess that's all of 'em then. Now we wait and see what becomes of this.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 17:03, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

== NEW PICS! Of all these Primes! ==

New, clearer, full-body pics of all these Primes up on Tformers:

http://tformers.com/article.php?sid=18023

Now if someone can just photoshop them apart for each page. Apparently there's some "collect stickers of them all at each location" promotion going on in Japan now. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 14:03, 2 August 2012 (EDT)

Seeker (body-type)

2012-08-01T13:32:22Z

76.28.76.206: This always seemed really out of place smack in the middle of the G1 toon material. Moved to its own section.

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[[Image:Seekers.png|right|300px|thumb|Well, they keep the toy-repainting fans off the streets, at least. (Generic Seekers from, clockwise: 1) MtMtE Part 3, 2) sticker sheet, 3-6) Five Faces of Darkness)]]

The term '''Seeker''' refers to [[Decepticon]] jet troopers who share [[Starscream (disambiguation)|Starscream]]'s [[body-type]] but with different colors or minor variations in wing and head shapes. This is most clearly and commonly known from ''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'', but any franchise with a Starscream is almost [[To sell toys|inevitably]] going to feature a similar "family" of [[redeco]]ed jet-formers.

The word "Seeker" hovered a long time in a strange gray area between official and fan-coined terms. It seems to have originated in ''extremely'' obscure official or semi-official writing, but somehow became widely used among fans. ''(See [[#Origin of the term|below]].)'' In 2002, the term appeared in dialog from the first issue of ''[[Transformers: The War Within|The War Within]]'' from [[Dreamwave Productions]], [[Canonizing|making it truly official]] after years of controversy. It has subsequently appeared in many other places such as on toy packaging, books, and in other stories.

==Generation 1 Seekers==
===Originals===
[[Image:MainSeekers.gif|300px|thumb|right|The original Seekers]]
In Generation 1, there were six Seekers originally given names and characterization: [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]], [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], and [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]. The first three, the season one Seekers, had animation designs done primarily by [[Shōhei Kohara]].
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===Coneheads===
[[Image:ConeheadsGenerations1.jpg|200px|thumb|right|The Coneheads.]]
The last three Generation 1 Seekers are usually designated as "[[Conehead]]" Seekers by fans for their distinctive transformation that leaves the jet nosecone pointing up. The animation models for the Conehead Seekers were designed by [[Floro Dery]].
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===And all the rest===
[[Image:MTMTEGenerics-OilField.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Aw, not "[[When Continents Collide]]" again...]]
In the Generation 1 cartoon there were large numbers of [[generic]], unnamed Seekers in addition to the named characters. They came in a wide variety of colors, from extra duplicates of Starscream or one of the other named guys, to original and distinct looks all their own. They seem to have formed the bulk of the Decepticon forces on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], as well as among [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s initial troops on [[Earth]]. They gradually became less common, perhaps as a result of casualties... or the cartoon's production team becoming more careful, or more-likely having more "actual" Decepticons to work with as the toy line expanded. (Extra [[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]] units and alternate color cassettes were also used along with these Seekers, early on, to fill out the comparatively thin Decepticon ranks.)

These unsung Seekers would be recognized years later in ''[[Heroes of Cybertron]]'' toy form as the [[Air Warrior]]s (all using the common lavender/white color scheme). Soon afterward, the [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] ''Generation One'' comic series introduced an army of similarly-colored Seeker drones.

[[Image:AirWarriors MTMtE.jpg|right|200px|thumb|You talking to me? Or him? Or the other one?]]

Around the same time, another background Seeker was also given a new life through toys and Dreamwave comics: [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]]. This yellow-orange Seeker was a nameless background character in the first episode of the ''Transformers'' cartoon, until [[e-HOBBY]] turned him into an [[exclusive]] toy (available with an [[Autobot]] also based on a [[Hauler|first-episode cameo]]). Now [[Hasbro]] [[Sunstorm (disambiguation)|can't get enough of him]]. Another generic Seeker was given attention: [[Acid Storm (G1)|Acid Storm]]. Like Sunstorm before him, he was based on one of the background Seekers from the original cartoon, in this case the episode "Divide and Conquer" (see below).
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Unnamed Seekers with their own distinct color schemes appear in the following episodes as noted below:

[[Image:Sunstorm Cartoon.jpg|250px|thumb|One for all, and all for one. Sunstorm and co. attack.]]
* "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]"
:In the "return to [[Great Dome|Iacon]]" scene on Cybertron, five to seven Seekers appear (wide shots depict a group of five, but the close-ups give us seven distinct color schemes.) The first three are (as far as colors are concerned) Skywarp, Starscream (with a deeper voice), and Thundercracker. In a following shot, we see a lavender Seeker with a flamethrower pack, a medium-blue Seeker with white trim, holding his arm gun like a rifle, a yellow/orange Seeker who would become Sunstorm... and lurking in the back, a very dark-blue Seeker with white trim barely visible, but there if you look.

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[[Image:MmteSeekers2.gif|250px|thumb|Lots of generic Seekers from this one.]]
* "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 2]]" and "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3|Part 3]]"
:The mother lode of unnamed Seekers. Especially if you like variations of blue and lavender. Crowds of them appear at the start of the final battle. At least six different Seekers of various shades and decos of blue and at least four of various shades and decos of lavender (two with black tail fins in jet mode, two with white). Also, a blue variant (seen in the picture above) missing his wings and shoulder vents appears in "Part 3".

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[[Image:DivideandCon.gif|300px|thumb|Divide and Conquer Seekers]]
* "[[Divide and Conquer]]"
: Avert your eyes! One deep blue, one eye-burning bright green, and one garishly bright yellow. This trio is often referred to by fans as "the [[Rainmaker]]s" because they started an [[acid rain]] shower to irritate a group of [[Autobot]]s. The green jet in this grouping was made into the ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' [[Acid Storm (G1)|Acid Storm]] character, whose name was initially supposed to be "Rainmaker", then "Acid Rain".

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[[Image:UltimateDoom.gif|300px|thumb|Ultimate Doom Seekers]]
* "[[The Ultimate Doom, Part 3]]"
: Two blue variants and one really nice looking pine-green Seeker appear as part of Shockwave's forces trying to prevent the rescue of [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparkplug]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].

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* "[[Five Faces of Darkness]]"
: One all-gray Seeker, one with [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]]'s coloration, and one with [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]'s. There's also an interesting Conehead variant. (All of which appear in the main image above.)

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[[Image:NotDirge.gif|200px|thumb|Dark Awakening Seeker]]
* "[[The Transformers: The Movie]]" & "[[Dark Awakening]]"
: One season 1-style [[:Image:DirgeseekerTFMovie.jpg|Seeker]] with Dirge's colors appears in jet mode in the attack on Autobot City in the movie, and next to the actual Dirge in the episode.

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* Puffy stickers
: A sheet of Transformer puffy stickers featured a rare generic with a Starscream-based color scheme. He is pictured above as well.

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* [[Transformers: Punch-Out Book]]
: In addition to Starscream, Skywarp and numerous identical copies of both of them, this construct-it-yourself battle scene features two distinct color schemes. Each features a solid grey body with solid color wings and tail wings: one red, one yellow.

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* [[Project Brain Drain]]
: While Ramjet, Thrust and Dirge are named and Skywarp is identifiable, there are numerous unnamed Seekers including a second individual with Thrust-style wings.

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[[Image:Returntocybertron-seeker.jpg|200px|thumb|Return to Cybertron Seeker.]]
* "[[Return to Cybertron]]"
: This relatively obscure [[Sticker Adventures]] tale gives us a brief glimpse of a Seeker with a Thundercracker/Skywarp mix; blue body, purple tailfins and wing stripes. You can't tell much more about him, given that he is A: partially obscured and B: exploding.

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[[Image:PretenderClassicsBoxArt.jpg|150px|thumb|"Classic Pretender" Seekers.]]
* [[Classic Pretender]] [[Package art|box art]]
: The box art (also used for adverts in the Marvel UK comic) for this line of toys shows Starscream attacking his Autobot counterparts alongside three others sharing his body-type. All have a silver front half in jet mode, while one has green rear fins, one has red and one is in shadow.
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[[Image:TFcommagdivebombvsjhi.jpg|right|100px|thumb|]]
* [[Transformers Comic-Magazin]] [[Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 18|Issue 18]]
: The German comic, well known for its often wacky coloring, contained a Seeker with a color scheme [[Jhiaxus (G2)|suspiciously familiar]].

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===Fun Publications comics===
[[Image:WingsofHonor-Skyraiders.jpg|right|thumb|250px|New guys, same ol' body-type.]]
The term "Skyraiders" (see [[#Alternate terms|alternate terms]]) was assigned to the prototype Starscream-like air warriors that [[Skyquake (G1)|Skyquake]] developed at the very beginning of the war. The ranks of the Skyraiders did not seem to include any of the usual Seekers, but instead comprised other flying Decepticon characters. In addition to Skyquake himself, the Skyraiders were [[Leozack]], [[Hellbat (Victory)|Hellbat]], [[Hooligan (G2)|Hooligan]], and [[Guyhawk]].
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===IDW comics continuity===

Seekers are elite officers in the Decepticon army, and are expected to fulfill a leadership role on the battlefield in commanding other Decepticon troops. Seekers are expected to show absolute loyalty to the Decepticon cause. {{storylink|Seasons in Flight}} {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 12|All Hail Megatron #12}}

The seekers all take on the same body type out of respect to their commander, Starscream, and hold a position of prestige within the Decepticon ranks {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 6|All Hail Megatron #6}}

[[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] and [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] are Seekers, although they may be using a different definition of the term. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 14|All Hail Megatron #14}}

{{note|Confusingly, the human organisation [[Skywatch]] referred to [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] and [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] as "Seekers".}}

==UK Generation 2 comic==
[[Image:G2UKWarWithoutEndJetGuy.jpg|thumb|]]
An unnamed seeker with a light blue body with white face, light red helmet and thighs, and yellow cockpit cover was hanging around when Megatron boarded the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]]. {{storylink|War Without End (issue)|War Without End}}

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==Unicron Trilogy Seekers==
According to one minor source in ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'', when any Transformer converts to a jet, he is called a "seeker"<ref>''[[Transformers Armada: The Awakening]]'' DK Readers book.</ref>. But the closest specific characters to the Generation 1 Seekers are this universe's own [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]]/[[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]]/[[Skywarp (Armada)|Skywarp]] trio. All three even used the same toy mold in their first release, although Skywarp was heavily [[Retool|retooled]] from the others (including getting an entirely new-mold [[Mini-Con]] partner). While new Decepticon-allied jet characters named [[Thrust (Armada)|Thrust]] and [[Ramjet (Armada)|Ramjet]] were released in ''Armada'', they each had their own unique molds. However, whereas Ramjet was simply the Mini-Con partner of [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]], Thrust was a [[bulk]] who even had a VTOL engine in jet mode, a conehead and vertically-oriented wings in robot mode. Although Thrust's original toy was green, redecos looked a bit more like his G1 incarnation. It was also redecoed into ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 franchise)|Universe]]'' [[Sunstorm (Universe)|Sunstorm]].

Though only Starscream appeared in the follow-up franchise, ''[[Transformers: Energon (franchise)|Energon]]'', several Seekers appeared in the final portion of the Unicron Trilogy, ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]''. Starscream was back in a form heavily inspired by ''[[Transformers: The War Within|The War Within]]'' Starscream design (itself based on the "tetrajet" (see below)), while Thundercracker received a completely different body. A Skywarp was also released as a redeco of Thundercracker.

Further, the ''[[Legends Class|Legends of Cybertron]]'' Starscream toy, a tiny, simplified version of his main toy, was redecoed three more times: [[Skywarp (Armada)|Skywarp]] as a giveaway at [[ComicCon 2005]], [[Ramjet (Universe)|Ramjet]] as a giveaway at [[BotCon 2005]], and [[Sunstorm (LOC)|Sunstorm]] as part of the last wave of the LOC line at retail.

==Live-action movie franchise Seekers==

In the letters page for [[Transformers (Titan Magazine)|Titan's tie-in comic]], the movie versions of [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]], [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]], and [[Ramjet (Movie)|Ramjet]] were first referred to as Seekers—by Starscream himself, no less. [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]] was noticeably absent from Starscream's list, despite also being a jet and Thundercracker also being the name/body for a line of drones. This left it unclear what a Seeker ''is''. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 9|#9's Star Screams}}

The term was used twice in IDW movie comics, meaning different things—[[Seeker (Movie)|Starscream's crack unit]], and [[Seeker (ROTF)|ancient spacefaring Transformers]].

In the [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|movie sequel]], Jetfire describes himself as a Seeker. One of the early categories of Transformers, they were created to seek out stars which could be harvested for energon. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

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==Shattered Glass==
The term is taken to refer to [[Seeker (SG)|a group of evil Autobots with car alternate modes who share the same color of black]].

==Animated continuity==
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==Aligned continuity==
The Seekers were a pre-existing group long before the formation of the Decepticons. There is some indication that the Seekers are an elite group of the best of the best fliers, although what (if anything) distinguishes a Seeker from any other flying Transformer is open to question. They tend to mostly, though not always, share a common design.

In an effort to placate the eternally fueding cities of [[Vos]] and [[Tarn]] each was given something of value. Vos thus became the home of the [[Air Commander|Cybertronian Air Command]] home base of the Seekers. [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] was one of their leaders before the war, and [[Autobot High Council|High Councilor]] [[Contrail]] seems to have been another. The Seekers were employed in ancient times to guard the secret of [[Dark Energon]] hidden aboard [[Trypticon (Prime)|Trypticon Station]]. They kept this charge even when Starscream allied with the Decepticons, though for the most part they remained largely independent in the civil war.

[[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]], apparently upset at being pulled away from the [[Crystal City]], manuvered Vos and Tarn into destroying each other, wiping out most of the Air Commanders that formed the basis of Starscream's power and bolstering his own position as Second-in-command.

In the aftermath of this betrayal, many of the surviving Seekers from Vos joined the Autobots, becoming the [[Aerialbot (WFC)|Aerialbot]]s. [[Jetfire (WFC)|Jetfire]] was one notable Seeker who defected from the Decepticons to the Autobots, helping them exploit their own flight skills further.

As part of his power play with Starscream, Megatron sent gladiators to kill many of the Air Command's scientists to finally take control of Trypticon away from the Seekers. ''{{storylink|Transformers: Exodus}}''

'''Known Seekers:'''
*Starscream
*[[Skywarp (Prime)|Skywarp]]
*[[Thundercracker (WFC)|Thundercracker]]
*Jetfire
*Contrail
*[[Bitstream]]
*[[Hotlink]]
*[[Nacelle]]
*[[Slipstream (Prime)|Slipstream]]
*[[Dreadwing (Prime)|Dreadwing]]

==Origin of the term==
Although "Seeker" is the most well-known name for these Decepticons, the reason for its wide use is a bit of a mystery.

[[Image:Seekers ad text.jpg|left|197px|thumb|No, you fool, we're following orders: We were told to scour the countryside, so we're scouring it.]]

There are only two known official uses of the term in 20th century, both of them in department-store advertisements from the [[1984]] holiday season. The J.C. Penney catalog (sometimes called a "wishbook") featured a page dedicated to ''[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]'' that included this statement in its description of Starscream: "Airplane with sensational F-15 styling scours the countryside searching for Autobots. When they're found, the Seekers set out to destroy them." It also said [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] "sends out messages to the Seekers and other Decepticons".<ref>J.C. Penney 1984 wishbook [[:Image:Seekers ad.jpg|(full-page scan)]]</ref> Additionally, the now-defunct discount retail chain Zayre put out an ad in November 1984 listing Starscream and either Thundercracker or Skywarp as "Decepticon Seeker".<ref name="savead">Zayre 1984 ad [http://pleasesavemerobots.com/vstp/vstptf84.html (scan at The Vintage Space Toaster Palace)]</ref>

Some fans interpret those two seemingly-unrelated instances to mean that the capitalized term "Seeker" was handed down by [[Hasbro]] in promotional materials, and those retailers happened to run with it. It's impossible to know one way or the other with any certainty, but the most curious aspect is that the online ''Transformers'' fan community was already using the word in the early '90s, when the [[fandom]] was just getting on its feet. Were those obscure toy ads strong enough in the fandom's collective memory to determine common parlance almost ten years after the fact? Or were there more official usages that have since disappeared?

Even the '90s-era fandom didn't know where the term had come from, as evidenced by confused conversations from that time on [[alt.toys.transformers]].<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_frm/thread/e885ffdf4355e933/13eeeeae7e2483b7?tvc=17 alt.toys.transformers thread from 1996 about the origin of "Seeker"]</ref> While no one cited those toy ads, there were plenty of ''wrong'' answers, which may explain the term's staying power. The strongest of those erroneous explanations was that it had come from the phrase "[[Ferak|hunter-seeker skyship]]" used in [[The Smelting Pool!|issue 17]] of the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel US comic]]. However, the Decepticons it is applied to are shown only in their flight modes, which look nothing like the jets in question. In fact, the Coneheads make their first appearance in the same issue, and their Cybertronian flight modes appear very similar to their [[Earth]] jet forms (if not completely identical), and completely ''different'' from the craft which are referred to as hunter-seekers. The only real connection between the hunter-seekers we were shown and the "Seekers" is that there's more than one of them and they fly.

During this phase of questionable canonicity, fans flirted with other terms such as "Skyraider" ''(see [[#Alternate terms|below]])'', but in 2002 [[Simon Furman]] used "Seeker" in a Dreamwave comic script, which sealed the deal of officiality and set the tone not just for the fandom, but for the ''Transformers'' fiction that came afterwards as well.

==Alternate terms==
[[Image:86Planes.jpg|thumb|left|200px|I don't know what to call you, [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]], but I know "plane" isn't it.]]

The most obvious alternate name for these Transformers—and the one generally used by toy [[Pack-in material|pack-in]] [[catalog]]s—is '''[[Decepticon Planes]]'''. While usually clear enough from context, this term has the weakness that there are many Decepticon planes who do not share this body-type. Also, the term is rarely, if ever, used outside of toy-specific contexts. The first [[United Kingdom|UK]] toy pack-in catalog referred to the group as '''strike planes'''.<ref>First UK toy catalog [http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/img/toysheets/g1/uksheet01/1.jpg (scan at Transformers @ The Moon)]</ref> In Japan, they were called '''Jetrons'''.

Within the fiction, the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|cartoon]] episode "[[Atlantis, Arise!]]" features [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] calling Thundercracker a '''Deceptijet'''. And the 1985 audio book "[[Sun Raid]]" has Megatron ordering the '''Deceptiplanes''' (Starscream, Skywarp and Thundercracker) to break off an attack. The audio book "[[Jaws of Terror]]" referred to them as "Decepticon superjets."

[[Image:Tetrajet seekers.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Did you ever wonder why we had to run for shelter...]]

For a long time, it has been common among fans to refer to the Seekers' cartoon Cybertronian forms (from the episode "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]" among others) as '''tetrajets''' because their shape resembles a [[wikipedia:tetrahedron|tetrahedron]], a pyramid with a triangular base.

If there was ever an official term that could've given "Seeker" a run for its money, it was the one used on the [[Europe]]an ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]]'' packaging of Starscream and Ramjet: '''Skyraiders'''.<ref>Starscream and Ramjet's European ''Generation 2'' packaging [http://www.cobraislandtoys.com/tf/1992/starscreamg2boxfront.jpg (photo at Cobra Island Toys)]</ref> That term also appeared in those characters' profiles in the [[Transformers: Generation 2 (Fleetway)|UK ''Generation 2'' comic]]. When the modern fandom dug this information up, "Seeker" was still considered a fan-generated term, so there was a push to supplant it with "Skyraider". But Furman's use of "Seeker" in the then-current Dreamwave comics, coupled with the rediscovery of the J.C. Penney wishbook, put a damper on that movement. Some years later, the term "Skyraider" was officially resurrected to describe the jet warriors in the [[BotCon 2009]] set "[[Wings of Honor]]" (based on the [[Starscream_(Armada)#Energon|''Energon'' Starscream mold]]). [[Skyquake (G1)|Skyquake]] was indicated as the body-type's developer.

==Games==
===''Transformers: Mystery of Convoy''===
{{storylink|Transformers: Mystery of Convoy}}
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===Transformers: Cybertron Adventures===
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{{storylink|Transformers: Cybertron Adventures}}

==Toys==
{{note|Because of the bodytype-sharing nature of the Seekers, this section includes only molds that have been decorated as two or more Seeker characters, omitting a large number of molds unique to a single character.}}
===Generation 1===
[[Image:Redeco.jpg|right|250px|thumb|The original Seekers.]]
* '''[[Decepticon Planes]]''' (1984)
{{collist|3|
:* [[Skywarp (G1)/toys|Skywarp]]
:* [[Starscream (G1)/toys|Starscream]]
:* [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys|Thundercracker]]
}}

* '''Decepticon Planes''' (1985)
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:* [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]]
:* [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]
:* [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]]
}}

:The original Seeker mold was the [[Popular Earth vehicle alternate modes#F-15 Eagle|F-15]] ''[[Diaclone]]'' design, noted for its detailed jet mode, extremely limited robot-mode articulation, and the need to remove/add many parts during transformation.

:The mold was initially decorated as Starscream, Skywarp and Thundercracker. In 1985, Ramjet, Dirge and Thrust were created out of this mold, each with unique new wing toolings and color schemes. Redecorated [[retool]]s of the mold also appeared in ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' as Starscream and Ramjet, featuring new accessory [[soundbox]]es.

:This mold subsequently has been extensively reissued and redecorated; see [[Starscream (G1)/toys|Starscream (G1) toys]] for a ridiculously long list of examples. The reissues have included the original six characters as well as the retro-Generation-1 character [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]].

* '''[[Action Master]]s''' (1990)

:This non-transforming action figure mold was sold as Starscream, and later redecorated as Thundercracker for the European market.

===''Machine Wars''===
[[Image:MWSkywarp.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Machine Wars'' Skywarp]]
* '''Basic''' (1997)

:A small [[Flipchanger|flipchanger]] mold, originally intended for ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'', was issued as Thundercracker and Skywarp.

===''Armada''===
* '''Max-Con''' (2002)

:An all-new mold sold at the $20 price point was originally issued as ''Armada'' [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]], redecorated as ''Armada'' [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]], and retooled as ''Armada'' [[Skywarp (Armada)|Skywarp]]. The retooled version was later issued as the new character [[Ramjet (Universe)|Ramjet]] in the first ''Universe'' toy line.

===''Smallest Transforming Transformers''===
[[Image:STFStarscream toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Smallest Transforming Transformers'' Starscream]]
:The ''Smallest'' line, issued in Japan in 2003, featured a reduced-scale version of the original Generation 1 Seeker mold.

:It was issued as Starscream, Skywarp and Thundercracker, and retooled as Thrust.

===''Robot Masters''===
:A new Seeker mold was created for Japan's ''[[Robot Masters (franchise)|Robot Masters]]'' subline. It is based on the original toy, but redesigned at a smaller size and with enhanced articulation.

:It was issued as Starscream, Skywarp and Thundercracker.

===''Titanium''===
[[Image:TitaniumHeroesWWThundercracker.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Titanium'' Thundercracker]]
:A new Seeker mold created for the ''[[Titanium Series]]'' subline features a Cybertronian-based alternate mode, derived from the characters' appearance in ''[[Transformers: The War Within|The War Within]]'' (itself loosely based on the original pyramid jets seen in "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]".) This mold has been issued as Thundercracker, Starscream, Skywarp (a convention exclusive), Sunstorm, and Thrust (a Target Exclusive).

===''Cybertron''===
* '''Legends of Cybertron''' (2006)

:A tiny version of the Voyager mold, issued as ''Armada'' Starscream, and redecorated as ''Universe'' [[Ramjet (Universe)|Ramjet]], ''Armada'' [[Skywarp (Armada)#LOC|Skywarp]] and [[Sunstorm (LOC)|Sunstorm]], and Generation 1 [[Ramjet (G1)#Universe_.282008.29|Ramjet]] and [[Thrust (G1)#Universe_.282008.29|Thrust]].
:A small version of the Deluxe mold was available as [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]] and was redecoed as [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Universe (2008)|Starscream]] for the ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' toyline.

* '''Deluxe''' (2006)

: Though Thundercracker wasn't the same mold as Starscream in this series, his deluxe toy was redecoed as Skywarp.

* '''Voyager''' (2006)

:This mold, based on G1 Starscream's ''[[Transformers: The War Within|The War Within]]'' appearance, was issued as ''Armada'' Starscream, and later redecorated as Generation 1 Dirge.

===''Classics''===
[[Image:Henkei Thundercracker toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Henkei! Henkei!'' Thundercracker]]
* '''Deluxe''' (2006)

:An all-new mold at the $10 price point, the ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' Seeker design retains the F-15 alternate mode, but with a new transformation scheme and modern articulation.

:Like the original, this mold has been redecorated and retooled numerous times. In addition to the original six Seekers, it has also been issued as the character [[Acid Storm (G1)|Acid Storm]]. The various uses of this mold have occurred in the ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei!]]'', ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'', ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' and ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' toylines in addition to its original release in ''Classics''. Versions of this mold have been mass retail releases, store exclusives, specialty exclusives, convention exclusives and fan club exclusives.

{{collist|3|
:* [[Ramjet (G1)#Classics|''Classics'' Ramjet]]
:* [[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Classics (2006)|''Classics'' Skywarp]]
:* [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Classics (2006)|''Classics'' Starscream]]
:* [[Dirge (G1)#Timelines|''Timelines'' Dirge]]
:* [[Thrust (G1)#Thrust|''Timelines'' Thrust]]
:* [[Ramjet (G1)#Timelines|''Timelines'' Ramjet (G2)]]
:* [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys|''Timelines'' Thundercracker]]
:* [[Thundercracker (SG)|''Timelines'' Thundercracker (SG)]]
:* [[Dirge (G1)#Gentei! Gentei!|''Gentei! Gentei!'' Dirge]]
:* [[Ramjet (G1)#Henkei! Henkei|''Henkei! Henkei!'' Ramjet]]
:* [[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Henkei! Henkei!|''Henkei! Henkei!'' Skywarp]]
:* [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Henkei! Henkei!|''Henkei! Henkei!'' Starscream]]
:* ''Henkei! Henkei!'' Ghost Starscream
:* [[Thrust (G1)#Gentei! Gentei!|''Gentei! Gentei!'' Thrust]]
:* [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Henkei! Henkei!|''Henkei! Henkei!'' Thundercracker]]
:* [[Acid Storm (G1)|''Universe'' Acid Storm]]
:* [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Universe (2008)|''Universe'' Starscream]]
:* [[Dirge (G1)#Generations|''Generations'' Dirge]]
:* [[Thrust (G1)#Generations|''Generations'' Thrust]]
:* [[Thundercracker (G1)#Generations|''Generations'' Thundercracker]]
}}

===''Masterpiece''===
:A larger-scaled, highly complex mold. Issued as Starscream in 2005, with later retools as Skywarp, Thundercracker and most recently Ghost Starscream, with transparent parts.

===Movie (2007)===
* '''Legends'''

[[Image:Movie Legends Starscream.jpg|right|250px|thumb|]]
:This Legends-class mold is a highly simplified, low-cost version of Starscream in his F-22 Raptor body. As such, he has a greatly compromised transformation sequence due to the smaller parts count, with limited articulation and detailing. In addition to numerous redecoes sold as Starscream, it was also used to make ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]].
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* '''Voyager'''

[[Image:Movie Voyager Starscream toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|''2007 Live Action Movie'' Starscream]]
:The mold used for the [[Transformers (film)|''Transformers'' live-action movie]] [[Size class|Voyager]] class [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] figure was retooled and redecoed into [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]] (as well as a G1 recolor of Starscream.) For the ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' line of toys, the original mold and the retool were recolored again as [[Ramjet (Movie)|Ramjet]] and [[Skywarp (ROTF)|Skywarp]] respectively.

* '''Fast Action Battler'''

:The [[Fast Action Battlers]] version of Starscream was recolored into Ramjet in 2007.
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===''Animated''===
* '''Legends'''

: The tiny [[Legends Class]] Starscream mold was recolored into clear versions of Thundercracker, Skywarp, Sunstorm, Ramjet and [[Starscream Clone Black Version|a black clone]].

* '''Voyager'''

[[Image:Animated Skywarp Voyager.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Animated'' Skywarp]]
:The Voyager class [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]] from [[Transformers Animated (toyline)|Animated]] was recolored into two of his [[Starscream clone (Animated)|clones]], [[Skywarp (Animated)|Skywarp]] and [[Sunstorm (Animated)|Sunstorm]], with a third one, [[Thundercracker (Animated)|Thundercracker]], going unreleased.

* '''Activators'''

: Starscream's [[Activators]] mold, a smaller, auto-transforming design based on the larger toy, was recolored into Thundercracker, [[Dirge (Animated)|Dirge]], Skywarp and [[Ramjet (Animated)|Ramjet]], also based on the clones from the cartoon.

===''Revenge of the Fallen''===
[[Image:ROTF Voyager Starscream.jpg|right|200px|thumb|]]
* '''Voyager'''

:''Revenge of the Fallen'' Voyager class Starscream is far more accurate to the movie model in both modes than the previous movie's Voyager mold, with a more dramatic transformation scheme to boot. He was only redecoed as himself.

===''Transformers (2010)''===
[[Image:Chronicletoy ez thundercracker.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]
* '''Legends'''

:[[Legends Class]] Starscream is a new sculpt based on his Generation 1 jet appearance with many fuselage details borrowed from the [[#Masterpiece|Masterpiece version]]. This sculpt was also used to make ''[[Transformers Chronicle|Chronicle]]'' [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Chronicle|Thundercracker]], Starscream, and [[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Chronicle|Skywarp]].
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[[Image:ROTF-toy leader Starscream.jpg|right|300px|thumb|''Transformers 2010'' Starscream]]
* '''Leader'''

:Like the various figures released earlier, Leader-class Starscream transforms into an officially licensed Lockheed-Martin F-22 Raptor fighter jet. He possesses electronic lights and sounds. He was later redecoed into his Movie [[The Transformers: Masterpiece| Masterpiece]] version.

===''Dark of the Moon''===
* '''Deluxe'''

:This all-new sculpt transforms into a surprisingly accurate F-22 Raptor while hiding the robot mode parts much better than previous molds. It was later redecoed into [[Thundercracker (Movie)#Dark of the Moon|Thundercracker]] and [[Skywarp (ROTF)#Dark of the Moon|Skywarp]].
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==Merchandise==
[[Image:HoC 3H Seeker Set.jpg|right|250px|thumb|[[Starscream (G1)|I]] am [[Thundercracker (G1)|he]] as [[Skywarp (G1)|you]] are he as you are me and [[Air Warrior|we]] are all together.]]
===''Super Collection Figure''===
:A small, PVC plastic figure based on the Seekers' animation model design. It was imported from Takara in the 2002 ''Heroes of Cybertron'' line.

:It was issued as Starscream, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Sunstorm, and as a six-pack of the three original seekers and three generic light purple [[Air Warrior|Air Warriors]]. It was retooled and redecorated as Ramjet, Thrust and Dirge.

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===''Titanium Series''===
[[Image:TitaniumRM Starscream.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Stop, in the name of love...]]

: A small, non-transforming die-cast metal figurine, based upon the Generation 1 cartoon appearance of the Seekers was available decoed as either Starscream or Thundercracker.
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===''MyClone''===
[[Image:MyCloneRamjet.jpg|right|100px|thumb|''Myclone'' Ramjet]]
:A super-adorable figurine mold of Starscream was issued for this line, and redecorated as the [[chase figure]] Thundercracker. A Coneheads mold was also available, issued as Ramjet and chase figure Dirge, and retooled as Thrust.
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===Palisades===
[[Image:PalisadesStarscream.jpg|thumb|]]
:Issued in 2005, this six-inch-tall polystone statue with articulated head and arms was sculpted by [[3L Creation Group]] from a design by [[George Tremarco]]. It was later redecoed as Skywarp, Sunstorm, Thundercracker, and the Ghost of Starscream.
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===''Robot Heroes''===
[[Image:Robot Hero Skywarp.jpg|right|120px|thumb|Robot Heroes Skywarp]]
:Another super-adorable figurine of Starscream, this time launching himself into the air. Redecorated as Skywarp and Thundercracker. A Thrust mold from the same line has yet to be redecorated.
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===''3D Battle-Card Game''===
[[Image:3DBattleCard_Thundercracker.jpg|thumb|right|250px|]]
:This release is a 38-point "Uncommon" piece from the [[3D Battle-Card Game]] composed of punch-out parts from two different cards that can be reconfigured to make a robot or a fighter jet. The parts layout was used to produce Movie versions of [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]] (as well as non-Seeker characters [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]] and [[Jetfire (Movie)|Jetfire]]) in the initial release and Generation 1 [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] and [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] in the "Energon Wars" expansion set.
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==Notes==
[[Image:BC05InfiltrationCoverSeekette.jpg|thumb|250px|VOGUE!]]
*''Generation 2'' concept art revealed in the ''[[Transformers Vault]]'' book shows an unreleased desert camo variant on the Ramjet toy (previously seen in toy mock-up form) that would have been named [[Sandstorm (G2)|Sandstorm]].

*A mostly black and grey mock-up of ''Generation 2'' Starscream was also seen from the same source as the Sandstorm mock-up. This toy has "[[:Image:G2BlackDeathStarscream.jpg|Black Death]]" written on the nosecone and may perhaps have also been intended as a new character of that name.

*Another mock-up deco variant of the Starscream toy in [[:Image:G2SSJungleprotojet.jpg|jungle colors]] is also known to exist. As with "Black Death" Starscream and previously mentioned desert camo Ramjet, this may have been intended to be a new character.

*Lastly, ''another'' mock-up deco variant of the Ramjet toy in [[:Image:WhizBangNavyRamjetRedeco.jpg|cloud camo]] is also known to exist. As with all the above mock-up decoes, this may have been intended to be a new character.

* The Transformers [[fandom]] has long mused upon the possibility of female Seekers (and produced countless [[Wikipedia:Mary Sue|self-insertion characters]] that are variants on the theme). A piece of [[Hasbro]] concept art of what appeared to be a female Seeker design appeared on the [[BotCon 2005]]-exclusive cover of [[Infiltration issue 0|Infiltration #0]], but the idea didn't fully see fruition until ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' [[Slipstream (Animated)|Slipstream]], the first '''[[canon]]ical''' female character to share a body template with a Starscream. This development is either great or horrible, depending on your perspective.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Jetron''' (ジェットロン ''Jettoron'')
*''Mandarin:'' '''Yóu Jī''' （China, 游击, "A Lieutenant Officer In Army"）

==References==
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[[Category:Decepticon subgroups]]
[[Category:Fandom]]
[[Category:Generation 1 subgroups]]
[[Category:Seekers| Seeker (body-type)]]
[[Category:Mass-produced Transformers]]
[[Category:Wings Universe subgroups]]

Noctorro

2012-07-31T00:44:33Z

76.28.76.206: Now an actual DC character not hosted by Wikia. ;)

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{{picsneeded|toy, fiction}}
:''Noctorro is a [[Maximal]] from the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
[[Image:Ascending2_Noctorro.jpg|right|thumb|220px|''Nana-nana-nana-nana'', [http://www.comicvine.com/bat-cow/29-71183/ Bat-Bull!]]]
One of the oldest Maximals around, '''Noctorro''' relies on his own body during combat instead of weapons. His short temper coupled with great strength make him a very dangerous opponent. He believes that swift action decides the day, and any indecisive Maximal standing around in his presence is sure to earn Noctorro's disgust. He oftentimes attempts to guide the younger Maximal [[Jawbreaker]], but his efforts in tutoring the young 'bot have yet to yield results.

==Fiction==
===IDW ''Beast Wars'' comics===
Noctorro was one of the [[protoform]]s jettisoned from the ''[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]'' on prehistoric [[Earth]]. He was activated and put in [[chronal phase]] by [[Razorbeast]] at [[Magmatron]]'s request, but was protected from Magmatron's Predacon shell-program by Razorbeast's viral code. Soon after awakening, he joined up with [[K-9]], [[Bantor (BW)|Bantor]], [[Stinkbomb]], [[Armordillo]], and [[Torca]]. During their journey to meet up with Razorbeast, Torca got stuck in some mud, and Noctorro and the others helped free him. After following Razorbeast's signal for days, and picking up more Maximals along the way, Noctorro and the rest rushed into battle against Magmatron's [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]]. The Maximals won that altercation, and awaited rescue from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{storylink|Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering|The Gathering}}

When the Predacons launched an all-out assault, Noctorro could be found in the thick of things, doing his best to push the tide in the Maximals' favor. But after [[Rartorata]] arrived and infected Razorbeast with [[Angolmois]], Noctorro put his best efforts into both containing the berserk Maximal and helping to defeat the giant [[Blendtron]]. {{storylink|The Ascending issue 1|The Ascending # 1}} {{storylink|The Ascending issue 2|The Ascending #2}} {{storylink|The Ascending issue 3|The Ascending #3}}

Noctorro returned to Cybertron on the [[Pack]]'s transwarp cruiser and led an aerial attack against [[Shokaract]], which resulted in his nearly-immediate and violent death. Bet he wished he stayed on Earth. {{storylink|The Ascending issue 4|The Ascending #4}}

==Toys==
===Beast Wars===
*'''Noctorro''' (Basic Fuzor, 1998)

:Noctorro's beast mode is a combination of bat and Brahman bull (a breed created by humans). The resulting monstrosity looks nothing short of demonic. His transformation is very basic, mainly involving standing up the Fuzor, spinning his pelvic and knee joints, disconnecting his arms from the larger segment of his bat-wings, and flipping down his beast-mode head into his chest. He features a spring-loaded gimmick: The wing segments protruding from his mid-section can be pulled back and locked into place. By pressing a button on his back, they revert to their default position, creating a flapping/swiping motion. Although still functional in robot mode, this gimmick is more effective in beast mode.

::*''[http://tfu.info/1998/Maximal/Noctorro/noctorro.htm More information on Noctorro at TFU.info]''

==Notes==
===Foreign names===
*''Italian:'' '''Toro Alato'''

[[Category:Beast Wars Maximals]]
[[Category:Elderly Transformers]]
[[Category:Fuzors]]
[[Category:Reconnaissance specialists]]

Noctorro

2012-07-28T14:33:22Z

76.28.76.206: Now an Actual DC character.:)

{{Factions|maximal}}
{{picsneeded|toy, fiction}}
:''Noctorro is a [[Maximal]] from the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
[[Image:Ascending2_Noctorro.jpg|right|thumb|220px|''Nana-nana-nana-nana'', [http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Bat-Cow_(Tiny_Titans) Bat-Bull!]]]
One of the oldest Maximals around, '''Noctorro''' relies on his own body during combat instead of weapons. His short temper coupled with great strength make him a very dangerous opponent. He believes that swift action decides the day, and any indecisive Maximal standing around in his presence is sure to earn Noctorro's disgust. He oftentimes attempts to guide the younger Maximal [[Jawbreaker]], but his efforts in tutoring the young 'bot have yet to yield results.

==Fiction==
===IDW ''Beast Wars'' comics===
Noctorro was one of the [[protoform]]s jettisoned from the ''[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]'' on prehistoric [[Earth]]. He was activated and put in [[chronal phase]] by [[Razorbeast]] at [[Magmatron]]'s request, but was protected from Magmatron's Predacon shell-program by Razorbeast's viral code. Soon after awakening, he joined up with [[K-9]], [[Bantor (BW)|Bantor]], [[Stinkbomb]], [[Armordillo]], and [[Torca]]. During their journey to meet up with Razorbeast, Torca got stuck in some mud, and Noctorro and the others helped free him. After following Razorbeast's signal for days, and picking up more Maximals along the way, Noctorro and the rest rushed into battle against Magmatron's [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]]. The Maximals won that altercation, and awaited rescue from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{storylink|Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering|The Gathering}}

When the Predacons launched an all-out assault, Noctorro could be found in the thick of things, doing his best to push the tide in the Maximals' favor. But after [[Rartorata]] arrived and infected Razorbeast with [[Angolmois]], Noctorro put his best efforts into both containing the berserk Maximal and helping to defeat the giant [[Blendtron]]. {{storylink|The Ascending issue 1|The Ascending # 1}} {{storylink|The Ascending issue 2|The Ascending #2}} {{storylink|The Ascending issue 3|The Ascending #3}}

Noctorro returned to Cybertron on the [[Pack]]'s transwarp cruiser and led an aerial attack against [[Shokaract]], which resulted in his nearly-immediate and violent death. Bet he wished he stayed on Earth. {{storylink|The Ascending issue 4|The Ascending #4}}

==Toys==
===Beast Wars===
*'''Noctorro''' (Basic Fuzor, 1998)

:Noctorro's beast mode is a combination of bat and Brahman bull (a breed created by humans). The resulting monstrosity looks nothing short of demonic. His transformation is very basic, mainly involving standing up the Fuzor, spinning his pelvic and knee joints, disconnecting his arms from the larger segment of his bat-wings, and flipping down his beast-mode head into his chest. He features a spring-loaded gimmick: The wing segments protruding from his mid-section can be pulled back and locked into place. By pressing a button on his back, they revert to their default position, creating a flapping/swiping motion. Although still functional in robot mode, this gimmick is more effective in beast mode.

::*''[http://tfu.info/1998/Maximal/Noctorro/noctorro.htm More information on Noctorro at TFU.info]''

==Notes==
===Foreign names===
*''Italian:'' '''Toro Alato'''

[[Category:Beast Wars Maximals]]
[[Category:Elderly Transformers]]
[[Category:Fuzors]]
[[Category:Reconnaissance specialists]]

Rules of Disengagement (issue)

2012-07-25T17:32:13Z

76.28.76.206: /* Notes */

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|title="Rules of Disengagement"
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|editor=[[John Barber]]
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'''A mismatched group of Decepticons find themselves in the crosshairs of the deadliest team of killers there is... the Decepticon Justice Division!'''

==Synopsis==

As a [[infiltration protocol|phase sixer]], [[Black Shadow (Victory)|Black Shadow]] is one of the most feared Decepticons, having tackled the [[Wrecker]]s single-handedly, defeated the entire [[113th Batallion]], and massacred the population of [[Rigel IV]]. But when he accepted a bribe to blow up a fleet of [[Warworld|War Worlds]], he landed himself in the sights of the [[Decepticon Justice Division]], a team of vicious killers fanatically dedicated to [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] and charged with destroying all who cross him. It's not a pretty sight when the D.J.D. catch up to Black Shadow: melted by [[Helex (DJD)|Helex]], crushed by [[Tesarus (DJD)|Tesarus]] and electrocuted by [[Kaon (DJD)|Kaon]], he is explosively finished off when D.J.D. leader [[Tarn (DJD)|Tarn]] uses his ability of "weaponized conversation" to stop the pulse of his [[spark]]. Their task done, the D.J.D. set off to find their next target on the planet of [[Clemency]]—a target guilty of simply living.

On the ''[[Lost Light]]'', [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]], [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] and [[Ambulon]] combine their medical expertise to save the life of the wounded [[Rung]], though the psychiatrist remains comatose. A few hours later, [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]] visits Rung in secrecy, believing—in his increasing paranoia—that the attempt on Rung's life was a deliberate one after Red told him about the voice he heard from beneath the ship. Certain that he is next, Red hides a data slug containing video he has taken of the voice's owner—[[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]]—on Rung's body and bids him goodbye. But a medical [[Diagnostic Drone]] has observed the entire thing, and soon, a shadowed figure arrives in the medibay and recovers the slug...

On Clemency, a band of [[Decepticon]] scavengers consisting of [[Misfire]], [[Spinister (G1)|Spinister]], [[Krok (G1)|Krok]], [[Crankcase (G1)|Crankcase]] and [[Flywheels]] are in the process of draining fuel from the vast array of Transformer corpses that litter the war-torn world when one of them, a chipper fellow named [[Fulcrum]], proves to be still alive. After a slight panic over the possibility that he might be a [[zombie]], the six 'cons settle down around a fire to talk about the great battle in Clemency's past, and the grim reality of war and how it reduces lives to statistics. Fulcrum is shocked to discover that the war is ''over'', barely able to comprehend such a thing, and the other Decepticons mumble about how meaningless it all turned out to be and how unclear their goals had been anyway. In spite of this, though, when one of the Autobot bodies stoking the Decepticons' fire proves to still be alive, Krok casually kills the poor 'bot.

Back on the ''Lost Light'', [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] visits [[Brainstorm]] in his lab to get the scientist's analysis of [[Skids (G1)|Skids]]'s mysterious gun, which Chromedome palmed from the theoretician when he was distracted. The weapon immediately blew up when Brainstorm tried to examine it, but he was able to recognise at least some of the engineering, and has concluded that as impossible as it may seem, the gun may have come from somewhere known as "The Institute"...

As dawn breaks on Clemency, the Decepticons resume their scavenging, only for Misfire to suddenly break away from the group, thinking that he has spotted the [[Necrobot]], a mythical Grim Reaper-like figure in Cybertronian culture. Instead, what he has discovered is a P-6 [[Worldsweeper]], a famous model of gigantic Decepticon spaceship cast in the image of the faction's [[insignia]]. Investigating the vessel, the Decepticons make some horrifyingly strange discoveries: a ceiling covered entirely in [[brain module]]s, tanks of warped, malformed [[protoform]]s, a non-functional robot made entirely of wood, and a corridor composed of organic flesh that proves to have been responsible for causing the ship to crash, having ''bled'' into the fuel supply and polluted it. Misfire in particular is aghast and advocates immediate departure, but Fulcrum, coming around to the idea of new horizons, is eager to investigate. All emotions on the ship quickly turn to terror, however, when Krok receives a communication from the D.J.D., announcing that one of their number is on the Division's list. Tarn signs off with the promise that if the guilty party is handed over, the other six will be allowed to watch. The numbers don't add up, and Fulcrum assumes the D.J.D. simply miscounted their life-signs... but Krok soon discovers that there is indeed a seventh party on the ship, unconscious and sealed in a stasis tube... [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]!

==Featured characters==
(Characters in ''italic text'' appear only in flashbacks.) 
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*''[[Hyperion (G1)|Hyperion]]'' (5)
*''[[Impactor (G1)|Impactor]]'' (6)
*''[[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]]'' (7)
*''[[Pyro (G1)|Pyro]]'' (8)
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*[[Tesarus (DJD)|Tesarus]] (15)
*[[Vos (DJD)|Vos]] (16)
*''[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'' (17)
*[[Crankcase (G1)|Crankcase]] (18)
*[[Spinister (G1)|Spinister]] (19)
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==Quotes==

'''Fulcrum:''' "Ah! Now! Just—just wait a second! Just— The thing about me—my big thing is this: I'm really not keen on '''dying'''. Now '''survival'''—oh wow, '''huge''' fan. Put me down for some of '''that'''. Besides, we don't even know each other! You might '''like''' me! You might find me—disarming! Yes! I'd '''disarm''' you!" 
'''Spinister:''' "You'd '''what''' me?" 
'''Flywheels:''' "Careful—he's using words to confuse and frighten us."

"'''Go away.''' I'm busier than you've ever been and I'm going more important things than you've ever done." 
"It's Chromedome." 
"So?" 
"So you have to be '''nice''' to me, I'm your only friend. Why are you—?" 
"Building weapons whilst hanging from the ceiling? Because no one else can. I was hoping '''Perceptor''' would walk in."
:—'''Brainstorm''' and '''Chromedome'''

"Chromedome, you're looking at is a bona fide '''Binary Gun.'''" 
"What's a Binary Gun?" 
"I'm not sure—I've only just made up the name. But I called it that because inside there's only room for two cartridges, '''here''' and '''here.'''" 
"So what does it '''do?''' Where'd Skids get it? Why'd he carry it around with him all the time?" 
"I don't know! I've done my bit...!" 
"You made the gun '''blow up''' and then you '''gave it a name!''' I could have done that '''and''' I'd have come up with a better name!"
:—'''Brainstorm''' and '''Chromedome''' again

"But there's '''always''' been a war! That's like saying there's no more '''blue''' or—or the '''weather's''' stopped!"
:—'''Fulcrum''' catches up on recent history

"I always dreamed of captaining my own P-6—Followin' the likes of [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] and [[Sixshot]] and the other big guns. I'd have called it something '''noble''' and '''majestic''', like '''''Mega Starpuncher''''' or '''''Mighty Spaceship'''''."
:—'''Crankcase'''

"You know, there are some Decepticons who, upon finding themselves in a skin-covered room surrounded by '''aborted protoforms''' and '''mechanoids made of bark,''' would rub their hands together, marvel at the universe's infinite capacity for surprise and '''dive right in.''' I am not one of those Decepticons. I say we run away screaming." 
"I '''am''' one of those Decepticons, Misfire, and I say we stick around—because frankly, this is amazing." 
"What's amazing?" 
"This! Us! Now! Who owns this ship? Where are they now? Where will '''we''' be an '''hour''' from now, or '''tomorrow''', or '''next month?''' The answer to '''all''' those questions is '''"Who knows?"''' And that's a '''great answer!''' That's the '''best answer ever!''' All our lives we've followed orders—all our lives someone else has always told us what to do next! Well, not anymore! For the first time in '''forever,''' we can do whatever we like! We're '''free!'''"
:—'''Misfire''' and '''Fulcrum'''

==Notes==
*Black Shadow's design is based on his ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' toy. He was established to be a phase sixer in his sole previous IDW appearance in ''[[The Transformers: Last Stand of the Wreckers|Last Stand of the Wreckers]]'' [[Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 2|#2]].
*The 113th Battalion is another use of the number 113 by James Roberts, referring to the [[Wanted: Galvatron — Dead or Alive!|issue of the UK comic]] that got him hooked on the series.
*This is the first appearance of Rigel IV in a Transformer story, but [[Rigel III|other]] [[Rigel 6|planets]] that orbit [[Rigel|the same star]] have shown up before.
*Black Shadow's bribe is in [[Shanix]], a little-referenced Cybertronian currency that first appeared in issue #113 of the Marvel UK series. It's seen some previous mentions in IDW continuity in [[Chaos Theory Part 1|"Chaos Theory", Part 1]] and "[[Stick Together]]".
*The Warworld was the Decepticon mothership in the Marvel ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (Marvel)|Generation 2]]'' comic. The idea of a fleet of multiple Warworlds originated with the non-canon ''[[Alignment]]''.
*The Decepticon Justice Division were first mentioned in one of Roberts's earliest IDW works, [[Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 1|''Last Stand of the Wreckers'' #1]], and have come up on occasion since them. They are named after cities on Cybertron; specifically, the "[[Fall of the First Five Cities|First Five Cities]]" to fall to the Decepticons in the war, which were listed in [[Life After the Big Bang|issue #4]].
*Helex has a [[Turbofox]] on a leash.
*Vos's dialogue, referred to as the "[[Primal Vernacular]]", is written using the [[Cyberglyphics]] symbol language from the [[movie continuity|live-action movie continuity]]. Employing the substitution cypher regularly used by [[Titan Books|Titan]] in their [[Transformers (Titan Magazine)|UK Transformers comic]] shows that most of his speech bubbles are nonsense, however, save for the first, which reads: "So tired me go night xth".
*This is not the first time Roberts has written a character has having been "talked to death", though this version is a lot more literal than the reference made in ''[[Bullets]]'' to [[Violator|a Decepticon]] who killed himself rather than listen to [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] drone on!
*[[Kol]] was previously seen in [[Swarm (issue)|''Generation 2'' #9]], but where there it was a planet, here it is referred to as a system. Perhaps it was named for its star?
*That Flywheels should freak out so seriously at the prospect of a [[zombie]] is fitting, given his prominent role in the greatest Transformers zombie story, Marvel UK's "[[City of Fear!]]" (indeed, his only prominent role in anything before now).
*A device or creature looking like a horseshoe crab can be seen in a cannister on Brainstorm's desk, which might be supposed to be a small version of the [[Madmachine]] from the ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)|Headmasters]]'' episode, "[[The Great Cassette Operation]]".
*[[Hydrus Four|Hydrus 4]] is the planet of origin for [[Nucleon]], seen in the original Marvel series. Its sister world [[Hydrus 5]] was created by James Roberts and first mentioned in "[[Bullets]]".
*Chromedome palmed Skids's gun between pages 4 and 5 of [[Life After the Big Bang|issue 4]].
*The planet [[Elpasos]] is mentioned in passing, a world that debut in—you guessed it, issue #113 of the Marvel UK series. It got a previous IDW mention in [[Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 5|''Last Stand of the Wreckers'' #5]].
*Reference is made to "Nova Peak", which is prrrrrobably the same thing as [[Nova Point]].
*Grimlock was last seen at the close of the ''[[The Transformers: Maximum Dinobots|Maximum Dinobots]]'' mini-series, over three years before the publication of this issue. Since then, all we've heard is that he had left [[Garrus-9]] after it was sacked by the Decepticons under unrevealed circumstances, as detailed in [[Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 4|''Last Stand of the Wreckers'' #4]].
*Roberts had previously created a Decepticon named Fulcrum in his fan-published Transformers: Eugenesis novel. Whether these are meant to be iterations of the same character (as was the case with Rung) or just a name reuse is unclear.

===Errors===
*Spinister was previously shown to be among the Decepticons who had already returned to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] in ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[The Autonomy Lesson|#1]].

===Crew Manifest===
*The "Story so far" segment on the inside front cover notes that "a number of [[Delphi]]'s patients" were brought to the ''Lost Light'', which is the first mention that anyone other than [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] came back with Ratchet and the medics.

===Covers (3)===
* '''Cover A:''' Tarn, by Alex Milne and [[Josh Perez]]
* '''Cover B:''' Misfire, Crankcase, Spinister, Flywheels and Krok, by [[Nick Roche]] and [[Joana Lafuente]]
* '''Cover RI:''' [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] and [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] by [[Marcelo Matere]] and [[Priscilla Tramontano]], the second half of a combined image formed with the RI cover to ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Interference Patterns|#7]]

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Talk:Ruination (FOC)

2012-07-15T20:15:58Z

76.28.76.206: /* Commandos */

Should it really be disambiguiated as Prime? He's from the Generations line, which is all WFC/FOC designs... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 01:50, 14 July 2012 (EDT)
:Several of his components are already disambiguated as Prime due to being mentioned by Wheeljack. I just figured I'd follow that trend.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:00, 14 July 2012 (EDT)
::And for that matter, we have no indication that he's in the game so it'd be weird to give him that parenthetical after not appearing in the game.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:04, 14 July 2012 (EDT)
:::The new Generations toys feature Fall of Cybertron markings quite clearly, though. [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-generations-fall-of-cybertron-deluxe-wave-1-available-at-tru/25335/] --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 03:15, 15 July 2012 (EDT)
::::And those specific toys are actually in the game.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 13:57, 15 July 2012 (EDT)
:::::And suppose the Ruination toys follow suit regardless? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:26, 15 July 2012 (EDT)

==Intro==
It's not explicitly spelled out, but the standard has always been to talk about characters as though they're alive in their intros. G1wise, this is because characters may be dead or not at any given time in any given version of G1 continuity, but it should be extended to others for consistency. There are a few exceptions (Sentinel Prime's intro says he "was Optimus Prime's predecessor", but a) there's nothing else to say about him cross-franchise and b) "is Prime's predecessor" is a little odd) but even guys who first appeared as corpses (Hardcase, Playback) or who died immediately in their only appearances (Padlock, Fusion) subscribe to this. (The laundry list of dead G-named Autobots from TWW seems to be a notable exception.) -[[User:LV|LV]] 16:19, 14 July 2012 (EDT)

==Commandos==

I really, ''really'' can't write off the fact that the four limbs have the same colour schemes as the four Commando limbs as some kind of coincidence, here. Xaaron's yellow, not orange - Ruination was orange. The Commandos homage is the only reason for there to be that much orange slathered across all these figures, instead of colouring them in the actual colours of the characters they're supposed to be. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:16, 14 July 2012 (EDT)
:I can see the homage on four of the five limbs. But there's little that suggests Impactor's carrying over Mega-Octane's colors. He has no green or gray, just orange and dark blue. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:47, 14 July 2012 (EDT)
: Ruination was gray. Or urine yellow. Not orange. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:57, 14 July 2012 (EDT)
::Ruination had a good amount of orange on him. Nowhere near as much as Ruination does thanks to Impactor, but each Combiner limb had its fair share of orange in its robot bits. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:16, 14 July 2012 (EDT)
:It's not as though the Wreckers aren't also in their own normal colors, plus a bunch of orange. I doubt very much that it's an intentional homage to someone the set isn't supposed to be and largely isn't decoed as, personally. I think it's orangey-gold to go with the Xaaron head. -[[User:LV|LV]] 00:49, 15 July 2012 (EDT)

Every Ruination component except for Armorhide had a good chunk of orange on them. I agree that Impactor isn't homaging Mega Octane, but if they were colouring the toys so with the intention of having the combined mode evoke Xaaron, then why not colour Impactor ''his normal yellow'' (and use yellow as the unifying colour on the other limbs) since Xaaron ''is'' yellow, not orange? You don't think it's deliberate that the four limbs of a Bruticus repaint called Ruination share a colour scheme with the OTHER Bruticus repaint called Ruination, at the expense of more accurate colour schemes for the characters they're supposed to be? Even if we're trying to say this is just a coincidence - which I don't really believe, but it could be, and if it's proven it is - if it IS, I'd argue it STILL warrants mention on the page, for how ''immense'' a coincidence it would have to be. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 06:06, 15 July 2012 (EDT)
: I agree with Chris. Impactor is an obvious exception, but the four limbs are pretty oddly RID Ruination colors for no discernible reason other than being RID Ruination colors. Whirl is a dark blue copter with orange robot parts why? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:44, 15 July 2012 (EDT)
::I think this is obviously a lost battle, but I guess all I can say is a) I never thought of Ruination as having a lot of orange, b) I never once thought of the RID guy when I saw this, and c) it strikes me as pretty weird that they'd do such a half-assed job "homaging" the RID colors by not using Mega-Octane's at all, not using any red on Whirl, not using light blue or any brown on Twin Twist, not using any black and hardly any orange on Topspin, not using any of the mustard-gold that makes up all of RID Ruination's kibble and most of his combined color, et cetera et cetera. To me, this is like the Retail Bruticus Is Energon Colors thing; because we get a ''lot'' of homages, the fandom tends to interpret ''everything'' as an homage. I guess someone should probably ask Hasbro who decoed him and, you know, find out. -[[User:LV|LV]] 11:20, 15 July 2012 (EDT)
:::I'm in complete agreement with LV here. Especially taking into account that these could conceivably be on shelves around the same time as the original Bruticus members, it's not hard to see why, for example, Roadbuster is more green than orange/tan (you know, that yellow Swindle). --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 13:26, 15 July 2012 (EDT)
::::But you have to admit that this would be a ''tremendous'' coincidence, surely? Hey, SDCC's not over yet, someone grab a Hasbro rep and ask. There's certainly room for doubt. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 14:46, 15 July 2012 (EDT)
:::::Coincidence that the G1-inspired guys are colors pretty close to their G1 colors while accounting for other uses of the mold and the overall color balance of the whole and not really looking much like the RID guy they took the name from? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 14:50, 15 July 2012 (EDT)
::::::Coincidence that the four limbs of the Bruticus repaint called Ruination are the same colours as the four limbs of the other Bruticus repaint called Ruination. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 14:59, 15 July 2012 (EDT)
:::::::Given, you know, who's a jeep-thing, who's a tank-thing, who's a jet-thing, who's a helicopter, what the original characters' base colors are and the colors of the OTHER uses of the molds which blatantly take higher priority in the "accuracy" field, and how vague-at-best the similarities are in the final product... yeah. Coincidence on Hasbro's part, and a real reach on the fandom's. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:19, 15 July 2012 (EDT)
::::::::I'm afraid I can't gloss it away as easily as you can. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:47, 15 July 2012 (EDT)
:::::::::Really? I'd say taking into consideration the numerous mitigating factors and looking at the line as a whole and the other uses of the molds, you know, like Hasbro does, to explain the final color choices would be ''less'' easy than just glomming onto a vague similarity and doggedly sticking to it while ignoring all of the above. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:58, 15 July 2012 (EDT)
:::::::::::I'm with Chris. Anyone who doesn't see the RiD homage is being rediculous. All four limbs match perfectly, on a Bruticus repaint. That ALSO uses the Ruination name. There is no sane way that is a coincidence. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 16:15, 15 July 2012 (EDT)
:: Isn't Twin Twist entirely light blue? --[[Special:Contributions/66.87.68.56|66.87.68.56]] 13:07, 15 July 2012 (EDT)
:::Er, no?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 14:02, 15 July 2012 (EDT)
:::: What color would you say he is? --[[Special:Contributions/66.87.68.56|66.87.68.56]] 14:53, 15 July 2012 (EDT)

The Cure!

2012-07-07T22:50:13Z

76.28.76.206: /* Errors */

{{picsneeded|IDW Generations covers}}
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|next=Buster Witwicky and the Car Wash of Doom
|title="The Cure!"
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|next2=Buster Witwicky and the Car Wash of Doom
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|coverdate=July 1987
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'''Ratbat sends a team of Autobot prisoners to kill all Transformers infected with the Scraplets. If they don't comply, the Earth will be destroyed.'''

==Synopsis==
[[Image:Goldbugthecure.jpg|left|200px|thumb|[[Gold Plastic Syndrome|Gold Metal Syndrome]].]]
[[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] captures the [[Throttlebot]]s during a fuel raid on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Rather than have them executed, he sends them to [[Earth]] on a mission to destroy all [[Transformer]]s infected with [[Scraplet]]s, using canisters of acid. They are given 10 hours to complete this mission, after which Ratbat threatens to destroy the Earth. Arriving at the crater, they find [[Bumblebee (G1)|Goldbug]]'s tire tracks heading off into the desert. [[Rollbar (G1)|Rollbar]] and [[Wide Load]] take an acid canister and follow them.

Meanwhile, an exhausted [[Charlie Fong]] pushes the decrepit Goldbug to a filling station, where the attendants are alarmed by his condition. They offer him some [[water]], some of which spills on Goldbug. Instantly, the Scraplets there wither and die. The legendary cure is nothing more than water! Before Charlie can "wash his car", however, Rollbar and Wideload arrive, intent on slagging Goldbug. Once Charlie demonstrates the cure on Wideload, the two Throttlebots are more than happy to back down.

Goldbug arranges for [[G.B. Blackrock]] to have water transported to the crater to cure all the infected Transformers, but when Goldbug prepares to cure [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] and the [[Triple Changer]]s, Blaster tells Goldbug to kill him rather than save the [[Decepticon]]s. During Goldbug's hesitation, the Scraplets merge into a conglomerate monster to fight back. The Scraplet monster proves more than a match for the weaponless Throttlebots, and Goldbug decides to cure Blaster and the Decepticons to provide enough firepower to fight against the monster. The gambit proves effective, and Blaster finishes the Scraplets off with the acid that Throttlebots brought with them. Goldbug uses the last of the water Blackrock brought to the crater to remove the Scraplets that had infected the Throttlebots during the fight.

[[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] learns enough about Blackrock to believe him to be of use to the Decepticons, and attaches a portable [[stroboscopic opticon]] to Blackrock's forehead. The chip flashes a light pattern in front of Blackrock's eyes, then falls away unseen by anyone else. The Decepticons then escape, carrying the cargo from the freighter which brought the Scraplets to Earth.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
* [[Chase (G1)|Chase]] (1)
* [[Searchlight (G1)|Searchlight]] (2)
* [[Wide Load]] (3)
* [[Freeway (G1)|Freeway]] (4)
* [[Rollbar (G1)|Rollbar]] (5)
* [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] (9)
* [[Bumblebee (G1)|Goldbug]] (12)

|c2=
* [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] (6)
* [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] (7)
* [[Octane]] (8)
* [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] (10)
* [[Titanium-class Destruction Drone]] (2)

|c3=
* [[Charlie Fong]] (11)
* [[Jim]] (13)
*[[Ernie]] (14)
* [[G.B. Blackrock]] (14)
}}

==Notes==
* The Transformers' discussions of the "[[water|rare chemical]]" that cures [[scraplet]]s have caused a great deal of confusion (and amusement) in the fandom over the years. Many fans interpret various lines in isolation as meaning that the Transformers consider water to be a rare chemical, have never heard of it, and/or don't believe in its existence, all of which would be patently ridiculous beliefs for a spacefaring race (and would contradict Bumblebee's statement way back in issue #1 that he is excited that Earth is covered in water because he loves a good swim.) However, much of this interpretation hinges on the idea that the Transformers know exactly what the cure's chemical formula is, and simply don't believe it exists. This notion is flatly contradicted by various statements in this issue and the previous one, which make it clear that they don't know the identity of the chemical:
** Octane: "Legend has it that, thousands of vorns ago during an outbreak on Cybertron, a rare chemical was found that killed the scraplets! But I doubt any of us will live long enough to rediscover it."
** Ratbat: "The only cure is a chemical so ''rare'' that its very existence is suspect! But whether the ancient legends about this substance are true matters not."
** Wideload: "I never ''heard'' of such a substance!" Rollbar: "Hmm... maybe it doesn't ''exist'' on our world!" The only thing the Transformers have been told about the cure is that it's rare, which fits with most of what we've seen and been told of Cybertron (Bumblebee never claims that there IS water on Cybertron.) Nobody denies the existence of water; they just don't know that it's the cure. In fact, the very next issue reveals that Ratbat's entire operation is centered around an evil, hypnotic, ''water-using'' car wash! At best, we can chastise Rollbar and Wideload for not knowing much about water, which isn't too surprising since 1) they're scouts and 2) they spend most of their time fighting for their lives on Cybertron.
* [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] occupies the Marvel corner box space for the next eight US issues, beginning with this one, reflecting his current status as leader of the Earth-bound Autobots in the series, even though he doesn't actually appear in this issue.
* On page 13, Goldbug refers to Blackrock's company as "Blackrock Enterprises".
* ''References to other Transformers continuities/issues:'' The freighter was sent by Ratbat on a secret mission in issue [[Crater Critters|#29]] before becoming infected by Scraplets. The nature of its secret cargo will be revealed in issue [[Buster Witwicky and the Car Wash of Doom|#31]].
* This issue was reprinted by [[IDW Publishing]] as ''[[The Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' #11. It featured a new cover by [[Nick Roche]].

===Errors===
* Despite Ratbat's threat to destroy the Earth, no effort is made by the Autobots to contact him after the Scraplets threat is averted. Apparently, the Earth does not get destroyed.
* The color schemes for the three sports car Throttlebots are constantly confused in this issue. Searchlight, Chase, and Freeway all switch color schemes on the opening splash page. They're drawn and colored correctly after that, but later Chase is shown with Searchlight's head and colors. Someone must have referenced this issue for the later [[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]/''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]]'' crossover, because the same error repeats there. The head switch may steam from their Transformers Universe profiles which also switch the heads.
* On page 20, a rear view of Astrotrain shows him with his wings attached to the front of his torso instead of the back, and no arms.

===Covers (3)===
<gallery>
Image:MarvelUS-30.jpg|'''US issue #30''' - Yay, Throttlebots, so... ineffective.
Image:MarvelUK-126.jpg|'''UK issue #126''' - Well, that's what they told Goldbug afterwards...
Image:MarvelUK-127.jpg|'''UK issue #127''' - Throttlebots - easy on the eye AND the stomach!
</gallery>
* '''US cover:''' Rollbar punching through the Scraplet monster, by [[Herb Trimpe]].
* '''UK issue #126 cover:''' the Throttlebots attack Goldbug, by [[Lee Sullivan]].
* '''UK issue #127 cover:''' the Scraplet monster attacks the Throttlebots, by [[Robin Smith]].

===Advertisements===
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===Reprints===
*[[2004]] — ''[[Transformers: Breakdown]]''
*[[2007]] — ''[[The Transformers: Generations]]'' #11
*2007 — ''[[The Transformers: Generations]]''
*[[2008]] — ''[[Classic Transformers Volume 2]]''
*[[2012]] — ''[[The Transformers Classics, Vol. 3]]''

{{DEFAULTSORT:Cure!}}
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Chase (G1)

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{{disambig3|Chase}}
:''Chase is an [[Autobot]] [[Throttlebot]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Chase g1 boxart.jpg|right|218px|thumb|Dreamwave would be proud.]]
As a warrior, '''Chase''''s only outstanding asset is his staunch courage, but it's his attitude that earns him his many friends in the [[Autobot]] ranks. Yes, he's a motormouthed braggart and rather full of himself, but his storytelling skills are so fantastic that few mind when he monopolizes the conversation. Combine that ability with the enthusiastic, superficial friendliness and charisma of a talented politician, and it's no wonder Chase is well liked, despite his flaws.

Many of Chase's missions are rather routine; radar is his specialty. He can detect objects as small as [[Toaster]] on the horizon, and see a tennis ball two miles away—three of them, in fact, at the same time, in three different directions. He seldom needs to engage the enemy closely, but even the least dangerous "milk run" comes alive with purpose and excitement when Chase is telling its story.

Impulsive and quick-thinking, Chase's 240 mph top speed often places him far ahead of his comrades on his scouting missions, and frequently he's the first to roar down a promising byway, heedless of possible ambush or hazards. Sometimes this leads him into trouble. Most often this trouble is mechanical; Chase's body, especially his drivetrain, just isn't engineered to keep up with his mind.

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
{{noteukonly}}
[[Image:TheCure Chaseface.JPG|left|200px|thumb|]]
Everyone thinks he's [[Searchlight (G1)|Searchlight]]. {{storylink|Final Transformations}} ''Or [[Rollbar (G1)|Rollbar]]. {{storylink|Space Pirates!}}''

Thanks to a Decepticon [[Titanium-class Destruction Drone]], Chase and his fellow Throttlebots were captured and brought to the Chief Decepticon Fuel Auditor [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]]. An outbreak of [[Scraplets]] had begun on [[Earth]], and Ratbat ordered them to travel there and destroy all of the infected—or he would destroy the planet itself to prevent spread of the deadly disease. Given new Earth-style vehicle forms and canisters of corrosive acid, Chase and the others arrived on Earth. Chase stayed at the primary site of the infection with Freeway and Searchlight, while Rollbar and Wideload went to track another Transformer who'd left the scene. Rollbar and Wideload eventually returned with [[Bumblebee (G1)|Goldbug]], his human friend [[Charley Fong]], and a cure for Scraplets, the "rare chemical" [[water]]. With this knowledge, they managed to destroy all the Scraplets with help from [[G.B. Blackrock]]. {{storylink|The Cure!}}

Chase and the Throttlebots continued to travel on Earth with Goldbug and Blaster, but that only made them targets for virtually everyone—the Decepticons, the Autobot faction Goldbug had gone AWOL from, and the humans who hated and feared all Cybertronians. After escaping one of the Combaticons, Goldbug suggested they hide in a used car lot (because that [[Plight of the Bumblebee!|worked so well for him before]]). Astonishingly the owner, [[Big Steve Ludwig (G1)|Big Steve Ludwig]], noticed a giant earthmover dump truck magically appearing on his lot, and soon put two-and-two together after receiving a notice from the local RAAT boys. After pouring sugar into the Autobots' gas tanks, he summoned the proper authorities. Chase and the other Throttlebots were carted off and taken prisoner by RAAT's parent organization, [[Intelligence and Information Institute|Triple-I]]. {{storylink|Used Autobots}}

[[Image:DarkStar Throttlebots die.JPG|right|200px|thumb|]]
Still not recognizing the difference between Autobots and Decepticons, III's bigwigs publicly threatened to execute their prisoners if any more robot attacks took place. Guess what—the Decepticons were willing to call their bluff. After the inevitable raid, [[Forrest Forsythe]] ordered the Autobots crushed into cubes. However, a sympathetic (and borderline competent) agent named [[Walter Barnett (G1)|Walter Barnett]] realized Chase and his friends were telling the truth about there being two factions of robots, and salvaged their cerebro-circuits before the execution, transferring their brain chips into electronic toy cars. {{storylink|Toy Soldiers!}} Chase and the rest of the Throttlebots remained in Barnett's possession for some time, but were apparently returned to the Autobots at some point behind the scenes. The Throttlebots were reconstructed into new bodies replicating their old ones... only to be blown to smithereens by [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. {{storylink|Dark Star}}

=====Marvel UK future timelines=====
''In 2008, Chase was active at [[Autobot City]] on Earth when the [[Quintesson|Quintessons]] raided the base. He was presumably disabled with the rest of the Autobots present. {{storylink|Space Pirates!}}''

====''Generation 2''====
Years later, Chase was part of a detachment sent to Earth to deal with the menace of a revived [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]]. The team was very surprised to find that this Megatron guy was actually pretty powerful, and soon started making mincemeat out of them. Chase got his leg blown off, and told the rest of the team not to wait for him. He kept firing as Megatron approached, only to get blown to smithereens at point blank range for his troubles.

Megatron then examined Chase's snapped-off leg, looking for a soil sample that would let him locate the Autobots' starship. {{storylink|Final Transformations}}

===Cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Danny Mann]] (English), [[Kunihiko Yasui]] (Japanese)

[[Image:ReturnOptimusPrime1 Chase infected.jpg|left|200px|thumb|[[Nel Yomtov]] introduces block coloring to the cartoon.]]
Chase was with the [[Throttlebot|Throttlebots]] when they were ordered to retrieve the body of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]], but they ended up being infected by the [[Hate Plague]], which made Chase even redder and also prone to attack his comrades. {{storylink|The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1}} Chase and the Throttlebots were later cured when Optimus unleashed the wisdom of the [[Matrix of Leadership]] {{storylink|The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2}}, and helped defend [[Autobot City]] from a Decepticon attack. {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 1}}

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====''The Headmasters'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Tomomichi Nishimura]] (Japanese)

[[Image:ApproachMeteorite Chase WideLoad twisted.JPG|right|200px|thumb|The "Throttlebot Twist" somehow never caught on as a fad.]]
Chase and his Throttlebot buddies were seen on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] during a Decepticon attack. They tried to fight back against the new Decepticon [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]], but didn't fare well against [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]]'s hypnosis. {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}} The Throttlebots were dispatched again to protect their home planet from the [[Madmachine]], but they couldn't even scratch its armor. Instead they opted for scrapping with the machine's Headmaster guards, and did remarkably better than in their first battle. {{storylink|The Great Cassette Operation}}

Later, the Throttlebots traveled to Earth to fight some Decepticons, but ended up sneaking into space to stop the Decepticon meteorite [[Metamorphose]] by themselves for the fame and glory. However, when Chase and [[Wide Load]] jumped out of their [[Autobot frigate|vessel]] to take care of the meteorite, they quickly learned about its power to twist and deform metal. {{storylink|Approach of the Demon Meteorite}} Chase and the Throttlebots were eventually twisted back into shape, as they reappeared much later on Earth. They challenged [[Predaking]], guardian of a [[Death Tower]], but were swiftly defeated. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 1)}}
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===IDW comics continuity===
Chase was assigned to a team known as the Throttlebots stationed on [[Orvus Base]], a research facility in orbit around [[Salvvatan VI]]. The research was classified several levels above top secret, and so the Throttlebots didn't even know what they were helping to safeguard. The point was apparently rendered moot when [[Sixshot]] arrived at Orvus, and slaughtered the entire research team. Chase and the Throttlebots took off in a tiny shuttle looking for a chance at survival. They found it a few planetary orbits away on [[Salvvatan VIII]]. Curiously, the nearby planet showed signs of life...Transformer life. The Throttlebots found a ghost town stocked full of energon and supplies. Fully refueled, Chase was more optimistic about their chances, but [[Searchlight (G1)|Searchlight]] spoke from experienced and told them that, with Sixshot, they were definitely still slagged. Sixshot soon arrived and proved as deadly as his reputation. Chase was the first of the Throttlebots taken down by the [[Six Changer]]'s attacks. They only survived thanks to the intervention of the mysterious and powerful [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]. {{storylink|Spotlight: Metroplex}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:G1Chase toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Sideburn would like to meet him]]
* '''Chase''' (Throttlebot, 1987/1992)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-94'''

: Chase transforms into a Ferrari Testarossa sports car. Like all [[Throttlebot|Throttlebots]], Chase's primary gimmick is a pull-back motor that sends him zipping forward in either car or robot modes.

: In 1992, Chase and the other Throttlebots were re-released in the European market as part of the "[[Classics (Europe)|Classics]]" line. For this release, all of the Throttlebots but [[Wide Load]] were [[Retool|retooled]] to have their [[rubsign]] indents removed, the decals replaced with normal factory-applied paper faction sigil decals.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1987/Autobot/Chase/chase.htm More information on Chase on TFU.info]''
{{--}}

==Notes==

*Chase's Transformers Universe profile entry, from the Marvel Comics series, uses Searchlight's head design and vice versa.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Chase''' (チェイス ''Cheisu'')
*''English:'' '''Carlo''' ([[Omni Productions]] dub)
*''French:'' '''Poursuite''' (Canada, "Pursuit")
*''Italian:'' '''Scoutbot'''

==External links==
* [http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Chase Chase's Universe profile at NTFA.net]
* [http://www.redshirt.co.uk/toys/chase-must-die/ Chase Must Die - A scholarly look at the Throttlebots.]

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Searchlight (G1)

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{{disambig3|Searchlight}}
:''Searchlight is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Searchlight g1 boxart.jpg|right|300px|thumb|The sun! It burns our eyess!]]
'''Searchlight''' is a quiet and withdrawn member of the [[Throttlebot]]s. A silent spy, he is most at home in the blackest night, not because of what the darkness covers, but for what it reveals. When he cruises through darkened cities or over deserted plains, he has no need to switch on his two 10,000 watt driving lamps: his front-mounted sensor array brings him a subtle panorama that the daylight only overwhelms in its fiery radiance. Searchlight sees all, be it in the dimmest spark of visible light, or in the infrared spectrum, or elsewhere in the realm of electromagnetic radiation. His X-ray capacity lets him look through objects, and his spectroscope allows him to analyze their composition. All of this he can record in stereoscopic, digital video. This amazing array even gives him some offensive capacity; he can blind foes with a dazzling, stroboscopic flash from his driving lamps, but this is painful and disorienting to his well-tuned optics.

So fascinating are the secrets which the nighttime world reveals to Searchlight that he often loses track of his assigned mission. A further drawback of working alone comes from his very best quality; his keen senses. A slight sound or movement, if made by something undetectable by his trained sensors, can make him anxious, and eventually send him into a panic. Therefore, though he is serious-minded and works best alone, his superiors must sometimes check on him.

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
[[Image:TheCure Searchlight.JPG|left|200px|thumb|Lines in the dirt, he sees...]]
Everyone thinks he's [[Chase (G1)|Chase]]. {{storylink|Final Transformations}}

Thanks to a Decepticon [[Titanium-class Destruction Drone]], Searchlight and his fellow Throttlebots were captured and brought to the Chief Decepticon Fuel Auditor [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]]. An outbreak of [[Scraplet]]s had begun on [[Earth]], and Ratbat ordered them to travel there and destroy all of the infected—or he would destroy the planet itself to prevent spread of the deadly disease. Given new Earth-style vehicle forms and canisters of corrosive acid, Searchlight and the others arrived on Earth and soon found [[Goldbug (G1)|Goldbug]] in the death throes of a Scraplets infection. They attempted to destroy him, but during the skirmish, Goldbug's human friend [[Charlie Fong]] discovered a cure for Scraplets, the "rare chemical" [[water]]. With this knowledge, they managed to destroy all the Scraplets with help from [[G.B. Blackrock]]. {{storylink|The Cure!}}

Searchlight and the Throttlebots continued to travel on Earth with Goldbug and Blaster, but that only made them targets for virtually everyone—the Decepticons, the Autobot faction Goldbug had gone AWOL from, and the humans who hated and feared all Cybertronians. After escaping one of the Combaticons, Goldbug suggested they hide in a used car lot (because that [[Plight of the Bumblebee!|worked so well for him before]]). Astonishingly the owner, [[Big Steve Ludwig (G1)|Big Steve Ludwig]], noticed a giant earthmover dump truck magically appearing on his lot, and soon put two-and-two together after receiving a notice from the local RAAT boys. After pouring sugar into the Autobots' gas tanks, he summoned the proper authorities. Searchlight and the Throttlebots were carted off and taken prisoner by RAAT's parent organization, [[Intelligence and Information Institute|Triple-I]]. {{storylink|Used Autobots}}

[[Image:DarkStar Throttlebots die.JPG|right|200px|thumb|...cackling, self-illuminated giants with god-like power, not so much.]]
Still not recognizing the difference between Autobots and Decepticons, III's bigwigs publicly threatened to execute their prisoners if any more robot attacks took place. Guess what—the Decepticons were willing to call their bluff. After the inevitable raid, [[Forrest Forsythe]] ordered the Autobots crushed into cubes. However, a sympathetic (and borderline competent) agent named [[Walter Barnett (G1)|Walter Barnett]] realized Searchlight and his friends were telling the truth about there being two factions of robots, and salvaged their cerebro-circuits before the execution, transferring their brain chips into electronic toy cars. {{storylink|Toy Soldiers!}} Searchlight and the Throttlebots remained in Barnett's possession for some time, but were apparently returned to the Autobots at some point behind the scenes. The Throttlebots were reconstructed into new bodies replicating their old ones... only to be destroyed again, this time by [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. {{storylink|Dark Star}}
{{-}}

===''The Transformers'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Steve Bulen]] (English), [[Masashi Hirose]] (Japanese)

[[Image:Rebirth1 Searchlight car.jpg|left|175px|thumb|]]
Searchlight and the Throttlebots were assembled by [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime]] for the botched rescue attempt of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]]'s body from Doctor [[Mark Morgan]]. Along with [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] and the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], they were the first Transformers to be infected by the [[Hate Plague]]. {{storylink|The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1}} Searchlight was eventually cured and together with his fellow Throttlebots defended [[Autobot City]] against a Decepticon raid in the year 2007. {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 1}}

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===''The Headmasters'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Masashi Hirose]] (Japanese)

[[Image:CassetteOperation Searchlight Weirdwolf.JPG|right|200px|thumb|I said TALK to the hand! TALK to it!]]
When the Decepticons attacked [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] in 2011, Searchlight and the Throttlebots teamed up with three other Autobots to defend [[Vector Sigma]]. They crossed paths with the new Decepticon [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]], and ended up being put to sleep by [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]]. {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}} The Headmasters were later driven away, but soon returned alongside the [[Madmachine]], a new Decepticon weapon. Searchlight and Throttlebots were dispatched to fight this new threat, but were unable to pierce its armor and had to settle for scrapping with the Headmasters instead. {{storylink|The Great Cassette Operation}}

The Throttlebots' next battle was set on [[Earth]], but they broke orders and snuck away from the fight to stop the Decepticon meteorite known as [[Metamorphose]]. Searchlight and the others were extremely confident in their mission, but failed to notice the meteorite's ability to warp and bend any metal in its vicinity. The [[Autobot frigate]] Searchlight helped pilot was twisted out of shape, and the Throttlebots were out of commission for quite some time after that. {{storylink|Approach of the Demon Meteorite}} They eventually reappeared on Earth, where they were tasked with destroying one of [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]'s [[Death Tower]]s. Unfortunately, the tower was guarded by [[Predaking]], who easily knocked out Searchlight and his friends. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 2)}}
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===''The Transformers 3-D''===
[[Image:Ratbat blackthorne2.png|left|250px|thumb|Bat riders of the Styx.]]
Searchlight was enjoying a nice shadowy corner when he was called in by [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] to collect specimens of a newly discovered alien that converted whatever it ate to pure [[energon]]. Scouring the dark asteroid on which [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] had landed, Searchlight pondered his existence until he suddenly stumbled upon a [[Scorponok (G1)|Decepticon base]]. He snuck inside and spied on [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] explaining to [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] how they could take advantage of the energon-producing creatures, but was soon discovered and chased across the asteroid by Cyclonus and [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]]. While cursing all the things that could have gone so much better, Searchlight stumbled upon Ultra Magnus and his troops, who protected him from the Decepticons. Searchlight spent the ensuing battle riding [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]]. {{storylink|The Test (issue)|The Test}}
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===IDW comics continuity===
{{ongoing}}
[[Image:Stormbringer1 Searchlight OptimusPrime.jpg|right|200px|thumb|I was distracted by your badly-Photoshopped Autobot insignia]]
Searchlight served as Optimus Prime's aide aboard the main [[Autobot Orbital Command Hub]]. He reported [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]'s (unauthorized) pulsewave alerting them of how [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]'s [[Infiltration protocol|infiltration team]] had assumed Siege Mode ahead of schedule. {{storylink|Stormbringer issue 1}} Later, he notified Optimus on the distress buoy launched from the ''[[Calabi-Yau]]'' and her subsequent silence. Searchlight was shocked when Prime ordered him to contact the [[Wrecker|Wreckers]]. {{storylink|Stormbringer issue 2}}

He remained on the Hub under [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]'s command after Prime left to take an active role on Earth. {{storylink|Spotlight: Blaster}} During the fight against the [[Expansion]], he was apparently summoned to [[Garrus-9]] to help bolster the Autobots' defenses after the [[Pretender Monster|Monstructor-Six]] were kidnapped. Searchlight faced down [[Nova Prime|Nemesis Prime]] with several other Autobots, but did little to halt his progression. {{storylink|Spotlight: Doubledealer}}

Searchlight was stationed as a courier at the [[Orvus Base]] orbiting [[Salvvatan VI]]. He and the other Throttlebots barely escaped the station when [[Sixshot]] attacked, destroying it to retrieve its classified information. Crash landing on [[Salvvatan VIII]], Searchlight warned the rest of his group that he had seen Sixshot take on a whole army before and that hiding would be their best option. Sixshot found them, however, and quickly incapacitated [[Chase (G1)|Chase]], [[Freeway (G1)|Freeway]] and [[Wide Load]]. Searchlight confronted the Decepticon with [[Goldbug (IDW)|Goldbug]] and [[Rollbar (G1)|Rollbar]]. Sixshot was crashed through [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] by Rollbar and Searchlight followed with Goldbug. Goldbug was shot pointblank by Sixshot and then Searchlight was blown away from the building. Sixshot had him down holding a blaster to his head, but Searchlight refused to say he was afraid. He was saved by Metroplex, who crushed Sixshot in his massive hand and then stepped on him. Searchlight pleaded for the huge Autobot to join them in the war, but to no avail. He realized that whatever secret Metroplex was guarding had to be important, since no one would stay that alone if they don't have to. {{storylink|Spotlight: Metroplex}}
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==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:G1-toy Searchlight.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Let's just hop along, shall we? Hop. Hop. Hoppity-hop-hop.]]
*'''Searchlight''' (Throttlebot, 1987/1991)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-93'''

: Searchlight transforms into a Ford RS200 rally car with multiple molded headlamps. Like all [[Throttlebot]]s, he features a pull-back motor that zips him forward in both vehicle and robot modes.

: In 1991, the Throttlebots were re-released in European markets as part of the "[[Classics (Europe)|Classics]]" sub-line. Searchlight was [[retool]]ed to remove the [[rubsign]] indent on his back-end/backpack, and the rubsign decal itself was [[:Image:G1Searchlight toy.jpg|replaced with a glossy-paper Autobot sigil]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1987/Autobot/Searchlight/searchlight.htm More information on Searchlight at TFU.info]''
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==Notes==

*Searchlight's Transformers Universe profile entry, from the Marvel Comics series, uses Chase's head design and vice versa.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Looklight''' (ルックライト ''Rukkuraito'')
*''French:'' '''Projecteur''' (Canada)
*''Italian:'' '''Strobot'''

==External links==
* [http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Searchlight Searchlight's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

[[Category:Surveillance specialists]]
[[Category:The Headmasters Autobots]]
[[Category:Throttlebots]]

Searchlight (G1)

2012-07-07T22:46:15Z

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{{factions|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Searchlight}}
:''Searchlight is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Searchlight g1 boxart.jpg|right|300px|thumb|The sun! It burns our eyess!]]
'''Searchlight''' is a quiet and withdrawn member of the [[Throttlebot]]s. A silent spy, he is most at home in the blackest night, not because of what the darkness covers, but for what it reveals. When he cruises through darkened cities or over deserted plains, he has no need to switch on his two 10,000 watt driving lamps: his front-mounted sensor array brings him a subtle panorama that the daylight only overwhelms in its fiery radiance. Searchlight sees all, be it in the dimmest spark of visible light, or in the infrared spectrum, or elsewhere in the realm of electromagnetic radiation. His X-ray capacity lets him look through objects, and his spectroscope allows him to analyze their composition. All of this he can record in stereoscopic, digital video. This amazing array even gives him some offensive capacity; he can blind foes with a dazzling, stroboscopic flash from his driving lamps, but this is painful and disorienting to his well-tuned optics.

So fascinating are the secrets which the nighttime world reveals to Searchlight that he often loses track of his assigned mission. A further drawback of working alone comes from his very best quality; his keen senses. A slight sound or movement, if made by something undetectable by his trained sensors, can make him anxious, and eventually send him into a panic. Therefore, though he is serious-minded and works best alone, his superiors must sometimes check on him.

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
[[Image:TheCure Searchlight.JPG|left|200px|thumb|Lines in the dirt, he sees...]]
Everyone thinks he's [[Chase (G1)|Chase]]. {{storylink|Final Transformations}}

Thanks to a Decepticon [[Titanium-class Destruction Drone]], Searchlight and his fellow Throttlebots were captured and brought to the Chief Decepticon Fuel Auditor [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]]. An outbreak of [[Scraplet]]s had begun on [[Earth]], and Ratbat ordered them to travel there and destroy all of the infected—or he would destroy the planet itself to prevent spread of the deadly disease. Given new Earth-style vehicle forms and canisters of corrosive acid, Searchlight and the others arrived on Earth and soon found [[Goldbug (G1)|Goldbug]] in the death throes of a Scraplets infection. They attempted to destroy him, but during the skirmish, Goldbug's human friend [[Charlie Fong]] discovered a cure for Scraplets, the "rare chemical" [[water]]. With this knowledge, they managed to destroy all the Scraplets with help from [[G.B. Blackrock]]. {{storylink|The Cure!}}

Searchlight and the Throttlebots continued to travel on Earth with Goldbug and Blaster, but that only made them targets for virtually everyone—the Decepticons, the Autobot faction Goldbug had gone AWOL from, and the humans who hated and feared all Cybertronians. After escaping one of the Combaticons, Goldbug suggested they hide in a used car lot (because that [[Plight of the Bumblebee!|worked so well for him before]]). Astonishingly the owner, [[Big Steve Ludwig (G1)|Big Steve Ludwig]], noticed a giant earthmover dump truck magically appearing on his lot, and soon put two-and-two together after receiving a notice from the local RAAT boys. After pouring sugar into the Autobots' gas tanks, he summoned the proper authorities. Searchlight and the Throttlebots were carted off and taken prisoner by RAAT's parent organization, [[Intelligence and Information Institute|Triple-I]]. {{storylink|Used Autobots}}

[[Image:DarkStar Throttlebots die.JPG|right|200px|thumb|...cackling, self-illuminated giants with god-like power, not so much.]]
Still not recognizing the difference between Autobots and Decepticons, III's bigwigs publicly threatened to execute their prisoners if any more robot attacks took place. Guess what—the Decepticons were willing to call their bluff. After the inevitable raid, [[Forrest Forsythe]] ordered the Autobots crushed into cubes. However, a sympathetic (and borderline competent) agent named [[Walter Barnett (G1)|Walter Barnett]] realized Searchlight and his friends were telling the truth about there being two factions of robots, and salvaged their cerebro-circuits before the execution, transferring their brain chips into electronic toy cars. {{storylink|Toy Soldiers!}} Searchlight and the Throttlebots remained in Barnett's possession for some time, but were apparently returned to the Autobots at some point behind the scenes. The Throttlebots were reconstructed into new bodies replicating their old ones... only to be destroyed again, this time by [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. {{storylink|Dark Star}}
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===''The Transformers'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Steve Bulen]] (English), [[Masashi Hirose]] (Japanese)

[[Image:Rebirth1 Searchlight car.jpg|left|175px|thumb|]]
Searchlight and the Throttlebots were assembled by [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime]] for the botched rescue attempt of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]]'s body from Doctor [[Mark Morgan]]. Along with [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] and the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], they were the first Transformers to be infected by the [[Hate Plague]]. {{storylink|The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1}} Searchlight was eventually cured and together with his fellow Throttlebots defended [[Autobot City]] against a Decepticon raid in the year 2007. {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 1}}

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===''The Headmasters'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Masashi Hirose]] (Japanese)

[[Image:CassetteOperation Searchlight Weirdwolf.JPG|right|200px|thumb|I said TALK to the hand! TALK to it!]]
When the Decepticons attacked [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] in 2011, Searchlight and the Throttlebots teamed up with three other Autobots to defend [[Vector Sigma]]. They crossed paths with the new Decepticon [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]], and ended up being put to sleep by [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]]. {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}} The Headmasters were later driven away, but soon returned alongside the [[Madmachine]], a new Decepticon weapon. Searchlight and Throttlebots were dispatched to fight this new threat, but were unable to pierce its armor and had to settle for scrapping with the Headmasters instead. {{storylink|The Great Cassette Operation}}

The Throttlebots' next battle was set on [[Earth]], but they broke orders and snuck away from the fight to stop the Decepticon meteorite known as [[Metamorphose]]. Searchlight and the others were extremely confident in their mission, but failed to notice the meteorite's ability to warp and bend any metal in its vicinity. The [[Autobot frigate]] Searchlight helped pilot was twisted out of shape, and the Throttlebots were out of commission for quite some time after that. {{storylink|Approach of the Demon Meteorite}} They eventually reappeared on Earth, where they were tasked with destroying one of [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]'s [[Death Tower]]s. Unfortunately, the tower was guarded by [[Predaking]], who easily knocked out Searchlight and his friends. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 2)}}
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===''The Transformers 3-D''===
[[Image:Ratbat blackthorne2.png|left|250px|thumb|Bat riders of the Styx.]]
Searchlight was enjoying a nice shadowy corner when he was called in by [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] to collect specimens of a newly discovered alien that converted whatever it ate to pure [[energon]]. Scouring the dark asteroid on which [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] had landed, Searchlight pondered his existence until he suddenly stumbled upon a [[Scorponok (G1)|Decepticon base]]. He snuck inside and spied on [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] explaining to [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] how they could take advantage of the energon-producing creatures, but was soon discovered and chased across the asteroid by Cyclonus and [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]]. While cursing all the things that could have gone so much better, Searchlight stumbled upon Ultra Magnus and his troops, who protected him from the Decepticons. Searchlight spent the ensuing battle riding [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]]. {{storylink|The Test (issue)|The Test}}
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===IDW comics continuity===
{{ongoing}}
[[Image:Stormbringer1 Searchlight OptimusPrime.jpg|right|200px|thumb|I was distracted by your badly-Photoshopped Autobot insignia]]
Searchlight served as Optimus Prime's aide aboard the main [[Autobot Orbital Command Hub]]. He reported [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]'s (unauthorized) pulsewave alerting them of how [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]'s [[Infiltration protocol|infiltration team]] had assumed Siege Mode ahead of schedule. {{storylink|Stormbringer issue 1}} Later, he notified Optimus on the distress buoy launched from the ''[[Calabi-Yau]]'' and her subsequent silence. Searchlight was shocked when Prime ordered him to contact the [[Wrecker|Wreckers]]. {{storylink|Stormbringer issue 2}}

He remained on the Hub under [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]'s command after Prime left to take an active role on Earth. {{storylink|Spotlight: Blaster}} During the fight against the [[Expansion]], he was apparently summoned to [[Garrus-9]] to help bolster the Autobots' defenses after the [[Pretender Monster|Monstructor-Six]] were kidnapped. Searchlight faced down [[Nova Prime|Nemesis Prime]] with several other Autobots, but did little to halt his progression. {{storylink|Spotlight: Doubledealer}}

Searchlight was stationed as a courier at the [[Orvus Base]] orbiting [[Salvvatan VI]]. He and the other Throttlebots barely escaped the station when [[Sixshot]] attacked, destroying it to retrieve its classified information. Crash landing on [[Salvvatan VIII]], Searchlight warned the rest of his group that he had seen Sixshot take on a whole army before and that hiding would be their best option. Sixshot found them, however, and quickly incapacitated [[Chase (G1)|Chase]], [[Freeway (G1)|Freeway]] and [[Wide Load]]. Searchlight confronted the Decepticon with [[Goldbug (IDW)|Goldbug]] and [[Rollbar (G1)|Rollbar]]. Sixshot was crashed through [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] by Rollbar and Searchlight followed with Goldbug. Goldbug was shot pointblank by Sixshot and then Searchlight was blown away from the building. Sixshot had him down holding a blaster to his head, but Searchlight refused to say he was afraid. He was saved by Metroplex, who crushed Sixshot in his massive hand and then stepped on him. Searchlight pleaded for the huge Autobot to join them in the war, but to no avail. He realized that whatever secret Metroplex was guarding had to be important, since no one would stay that alone if they don't have to. {{storylink|Spotlight: Metroplex}}
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==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:G1-toy Searchlight.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Let's just hop along, shall we? Hop. Hop. Hoppity-hop-hop.]]
*'''Searchlight''' (Throttlebot, 1987/1991)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-93'''

: Searchlight transforms into a Ford RS200 rally car with multiple molded headlamps. Like all [[Throttlebot]]s, he features a pull-back motor that zips him forward in both vehicle and robot modes.

: In 1991, the Throttlebots were re-released in European markets as part of the "[[Classics (Europe)|Classics]]" sub-line. Searchlight was [[retool]]ed to remove the [[rubsign]] indent on his back-end/backpack, and the rubsign decal itself was [[:Image:G1Searchlight toy.jpg|replaced with a glossy-paper Autobot sigil]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1987/Autobot/Searchlight/searchlight.htm More information on Searchlight at TFU.info]''
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==Notes==

*Searchlight's TFU profile entry uses Chase's head design and vice versa.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Looklight''' (ルックライト ''Rukkuraito'')
*''French:'' '''Projecteur''' (Canada)
*''Italian:'' '''Strobot'''

==External links==
* [http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Searchlight Searchlight's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

[[Category:Surveillance specialists]]
[[Category:The Headmasters Autobots]]
[[Category:Throttlebots]]

Andy Schmidt

2012-06-15T21:12:16Z

76.28.76.206: TFs do appear in it, so...

[[Image:Andy Schmidt.jpg|right|thumb|200px|He's not smug, he just photographs that way!]]
'''Andy Schmidt''' is a comic book writer and former Senior Editor for [[IDW Publishing]].

Before working for IDW, he was an editor at [[Marvel Comics]], where he handled most titles under the "Marvel Heroes" brand as well as numerous other top titles, and oversaw the multi-title "Annihilation" crossover event.

He moved to IDW Publishing in 2008, starting out editing their ''[[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]'' and ''Star Trek'' titles before leaving Star Trek to work on the ''Transformers'' brand, first as co-editor, and then taking over as full editor when [[Denton J. Tipton]] moved on to other projects. To say that he was overwhelmed with how obsessive Transfans are with the continuity would be an understatement.

In 2011, he was hired by Hasbro directly to work in their new [[HasLab]] division, and has since been replaced as editor on IDW's Hasbro-licensed properties by [[John Barber]].

He also owns and teaches at the Comics Experience school of comics in California.

{{quote|I'm just constantly surprised at how you guys keep track of all this stuff. It's really impressive. And yes, it's a part of my job, but it's not how my brain works naturally. I have to really work at it. This is part of the job that doesn't come easily to me. ... Back at Marvel we just didn't care ;)|Andy Schmidt<ref>[http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=178902#178902 Tongue-in-cheek comment made on the IDW forums, on April 20, 2010]</ref>}}

{{quote|If I could go back to the 70s and 80s and stop Marvel and DC from ingraining in comics fans{{sic}} brains that continuity is paramount, I would.|Andy Schmidt<ref>[http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=214908&sid=5894ac2171f0fd9d0196eb1e71d4bf18#214908 December 3, 2010]</ref>}}

==Comic bibliography==
===IDW Publishing===
====Writer====
* ''[[The Transformers: All Hail Megatron]]'' [[All Hail Megatron issue 14|#14 ("Rebirth")]]
* ''[[The Transformers: Spotlight]]'' [[Spotlight: Metroplex|#24 "Metroplex"]]
* ''[[The Transformers Continuum]]''
* [[Unit:E Special Edition Comic Book]]
====Editor====
(many with [[Denton J. Tipton]])
* ''[[The Transformers: All Hail Megatron]]'' [[All Hail Megatron issue 9|#9]], [[All Hail Megatron issue 10|#10]], [[All Hail Megatron issue 11|#11]], [[All Hail Megatron issue 12|#12]], [[All Hail Megatron issue 13|#13]], [[All Hail Megatron issue 15|#15]], [[All Hail Megatron issue 16|#16]]
* ''[[The Transformers: Bumblebee]]'': all issues.
* ''[[The Transformers: Last Stand of the Wreckers]]'': all issues.
* ''[[The Transformers: Spotlight]]'' [[Spotlight: Jazz|#22 "Jazz"]], [[Spotlight: Prowl|#25 "Prowl"]].
* ''[[The Transformers (IDW)|The Transformers]]'' (ongoing): all issues thus far.
* ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|Transformers: War for Cybertron]]''
* ''[[Transformers: Prime (comic)|Transformers: Prime]]''
* ''[[Transformers: Sector 7]]''
* ''[[Transformers: Foundation]]''
* ''[[Transformers: Rising Storm]]''
* ''[[Transformers: Jazz]]''

==Reference==
<references/>

==External links==
* [http://www.comicsexperience.com Comics Experience]
* [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/interviews-27/tfw2005-interviews-idw-publishing-editor-andy-schmidt-168776/ November 16, 2009 interview with TFW2005.com]
* [http://tformers.com/article.php?sid=12679 November 23, 2009 interview with Tformers.com, where he addresses criticism about Transformers: Continuum]
* [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/seibertron-interviews-idws-transformers-lead-editor-andy-schmidt/17393/ November 24, 2009 interview with Seibertron.com]

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[[Category:Editors]]
[[Category:IDW Publishing]]
[[Category:Writers]]

Ravage (G1)/toys

2012-06-14T17:59:35Z

76.28.76.206: /* Encore */ Pictures all over TFW and Allspark

{{picsneeded|Merchandise}}
{{suite}}

You've got a lot of toys, haven't you? You cute widdle kitty!

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:G1toy ravage.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Behold... the world's skinniest jaguar.]]
* '''Ravage & Rumble''' (Cassette 2-pack, 1984/1985/1986)
**''Accessories:'' Left & right missiles

: Originally a ''[[Micro Change]]'' "Micro Cassette Robo Jaguar", Ravage transforms into a microcassette that can fit into the tape door of the [[Soundwave (G1)/toys|Soundwave]] and [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] toys. In his feline robot mode, he is armed with two "heat-seeking missiles", which plug into the cassette spool holes above his hips. He was released in a two-pack with [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] in Hasbro markets from 1984 to 1986, outliving their fellow cassette two-pack, [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] and [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]], on toy store shelves by a year. In 1985, a heat-sensitive [[rubsign]] was added to Ravage's shoulder, replacing the Decepticon insignia sticker that had been there previously.

: This mold was later used to make [[Glit]], [[Howlback (G1)|Howlback]], and [[Stripes]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1984/Decepticon/Ravage/ravage.htm More information on Ravage at TFU.info]
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[[Image:G1toy japanese ravages.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]
*'''Ravage''' (Cassette, 1985/1986/1987)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''19''' (1985), '''D-59''' (1986), '''D-104''' (1987)
**''Accessories:'' Left & right missiles, tape case (certain releases only)
:Other companies elected to release Ravage on his own in various countries, rather than with Rumble. [[Milton Bradley]], for instance, [[Generation 1 (European toyline)|released]] him in this fashion, on blister card packaging, in [[Germany]], [[France]], the [[Netherlands]], [[Belgium]] and [[Spain]].

: In Japan, [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] also released Ravage (aka "Jaguar") all on his lonesome, like all his cassette contemporaries, packaged in a small box, and with a clear tape case he could be "stored" in. He was re-released in Japan in 1986, this time on a blister card, with a new ID number and without his case, and then again in 1987, with his original packaging and case reinstated, and with yet another ID number.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1984/Decepticon/Ravage/ravage.htm More information on Ravage at TFU.info]
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===Beast Wars===
[[Image:BWtoy mcdonalds jaguar.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]
*'''Panther''' (McDonald's Happy Meal toy, 1996)

:The [[Panther]] toy was repurposed to be Ravage in the ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Metals (manga)|Beast Wars Metals]]'' comic. Part of the first [[McDonald's]] ''Beast Wars'' promotion, Panther transforms into a heavily-armed Humvee with electronic lights and sounds, plus a spring-loaded missile.

: No, just kidding, he transforms into a panther with no other gimmicks. In keeping with most Transformers fast-food premiums, he features an extremely simple transformation scheme, mostly just standing him up in beast mode, making the mechanical detail on the inside of his arms, legs and underbelly visible, and flipping back his beast mode head to reveal his robot mode head. His panther tail is a molded detailing in his back, unlike what his promotional art suggests. His head bears a resemblance to [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]]'s.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1996/Maximal/Panther/panther.htm More information on Panther at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:BW-toy ShadowPanther.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Fuzzy kitty!]]
* '''Tripredacus Agent''' (Deluxe, 1996)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-7'''
**''Accessories:'' Tail-gun, water-shooting gun

: This originally Japanese toy, named [[Shadow Panther]], is a [[redeco]] of the original [[Cheetor (BW)/toys|Cheetor]] toy in black, silver, and yellow, transforming into a generic big feline. His tail/flanks separate to form a non-firing blaster, while his underbelly forms a water-shooting "gut gun" that can be used in either mode.

: Much later, this toy was offered through Hasbro's online collector service under the name "'''Tripredacus Agent'''", with an online bio indicating he was the same character as Ravage (then called "Tripredacus Agent" due to [[trademark]] issues).

: This mold was also used to make [[Tigatron]], and was planned to be used for the canceled ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' toy [[Nightprowler]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1999/Predacon/TripredacusAgent/tripredacusagent.htm More information on "Tripredacus Agent" (aka Shadow Panther) at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:TripredacusAgent toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Mutant kitty!]]
* '''Tripredacus Agent''' (Deluxe, 2001)
**''Accessories:'' Launcher, missile, tail-flail

: This Wal-Mart [[exclusive]] is a redeco of—wait, can you guess?—[[Cheetor (BW)/toys|Transmetal 2 Cheetor]], in black, silver, and gold, transforming into a monstrous techno-organic (but not [[technorganic]]) big cat. He has a spring-loaded missile launcher on his cat-mode back that can be removed and used as a hand-held weapon, plus his tail detaches to form a hand-held flail. His left forearm has a flip-up blaster-shield (of dubious usefulness), while flipping up a panel on his right-rear leg reveals his [[spark crystal]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2001/Predacon/TripredacusAgent/tripredacusagent.htm More information on (Transmetal 2) Tripredacus Agent at TFU.info]''

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===Beast Wars Metals===
{{anchor|Metals}}
[[Image:BWtoy-JaguarTM.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Nobody actually transforms this thing. Ever.]]
* '''Jaguar''' (Beast Wars Metals Deluxe-sized toy, 1999)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''X-9'''
**''Accessories'': Tail-whip, left & right pistol barrels

: ''Beast Wars Metals'' Jaguar is a heavy [[Retool|retooling]] of [[Cheetor (BW)/toys|Transmetal Cheetor]], just as Ravage's robot mode CG model in the show is an altered [[Transmetal]] Cheetor. He transforms into a robotic big cat, with flip-out thrusters for a third "flight" mode (not, as in the episode, into a cassette tape that plays wicked 1980s style electric guitar, for obvious reasons). His forearms each have a spring-loaded flip out pistol stub, which can be extended with add-on barrels that clip to his rear legs in beast mode. His tail also can detach to form a whip-weapon, but he doesn't hold it very well.

: Jaguar's chest opens double-door-style to reveal a flat panel where one of three stickers can be placed. One, a [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] [[spark]] chamber, is factory applied. The other two, an image of the original Megatron from the Golden Disk recording or a Decepticon symbol, can be applied over the existing sticker.

: This toy was also used to represent [[Jaguar]] the Younger in the [[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Metals (manga)|''Beast Wars Metals'' manga]] and the mold was used to make [[BotCon 2001]]'s version of [[Tigatron]]. The original version was used to make ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' [[Cheetor (Armada)|Cheetor]], and as the basis for the non-toy character [[Cataclysm (BW)|Cataclysm]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1999/Destron/Ravage/ravage.htm More information on ''Beast Wars Metals'' Jaguar at TFU.info]''
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===Smallest Transforming Transformers===
[[Image:STFRavage.jpg|right|299px|thumb|So tiny... So CUTE!]]
* '''Soundwave''' (2003)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''GTF 05'''

: The ''[[Smallest Transforming Transformers]]'' version of Soundwave comes with a ''teeeeeny'' version of Ravage, which does actually transform into a microcassette that fits in the tape-case door. ''Smallest Transforming Transformers'' Ravage may very well be the actual smallest functioning ''Transformers'' toy made.

:He's about the size of your pinky fingernail.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2003/Destron/SmallestRavage/ravage.htm More information on ''Smallest Transforming Transformers'' Jaguar at TFU.info]''
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===Alternators/Binaltech===
[[Image:AlternatorsRavage%28Corvette%29.jpg|right|300px|thumb|He brakes for Meow Mix and nothing else...well, sometimes nip.]]
* '''Battle Ravage''' (2004)
** ''Japanese name:'' '''Ravage'''
**''Alternator ID number:'' '''11'''
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''BT-11'''
**''Accessories:'' Engine-blaster

: A retool of ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' [[Tracks (G1)|Autobot Tracks]], "Battle" Ravage transforms ([[trademark]] struggles) into a 1:24-scale licensed replica of the Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Convertible, with opening doors, hood, trunk, plus a "realistic" driver/passenger compartment. Each robot-mode forearm contains slide-out (non-firing) double blasters. A part of his engine forms a double-barreled hand-held blaster.

: The Tracks hardtop version of this mold was also used to make ''Alternators'' [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]], whereas the convertible version originally used for Ravage was used as the basis for the one-of-a-kind [[Michael Bay|BayBot]].

: The Japanese ''Binaltech'' version of the toy is notable for sporting the American name "Ravage" rather than the established Japanese name, "Jaguar", for [[trademark]] reasons.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Decepticon/AltBattleRavage/battleravage.htm More information on ''Alternators'' Battle Ravage at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:Alternatorsravagejaguar.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Soundwave had MTV pimp his kitty.]]
*'''Ravage''' (Alternator, 2007)
**''Alternator ID number'': '''26'''

: The second version of ''Alternators'' Ravage transforms into a 1:24-scale licensed Jaguar XK (appropriately enough), with all the normal bells and whistles inherent in the line (opening doors, seats, etc). This is a toy of many "firsts". Not only is it the first ''Alternators'' character with two distinctly different toys, it's one of the first two Decepticon Alternators with an original mold (alongside [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]]). ''And'' it's the first ''Alternators'' character to have a non-humanoid "robot" mode, as its non-car form is now a quadrupedal big cat.

: After Ravage had been released in various European markets, his and Rumble's releases in the United States were questionable for a while. Ultimately, they were shuffled to be Wal-Mart [[exclusive]]s, set in an endcap display alongside the ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' [[Devastator (G1)|Constructicon Devastator]] exclusive gift set in March/April 2007...in some stores. In others, they were crammed in the normal aisle with everything else. Assuming they even showed up at all.

: On this note, Ravage has a [[United Kingdom|Great Britain]] license plate, regardless of which country the toy was purchased in. The steering wheel, however, is on the left, as in the United States. I say, ''meow.''

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/Decepticon/AltRavage/ravage.htm More information on ''Alternators'' Ravage at TFU.info]''
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===The Transformers Collection===
[[Image:G1toy_TFC_ravage.jpg|right|300px|thumb|A light breeze is enough to defeat him.]]
*'''Soundblaster''' (Transformers Collection, 2005)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''18'''
**''Accessories:'' Left & right missiles, tape case

: The original Ravage figure was first [[Generation 1 reissues|reissued]] as part of Takara's ''[[The Transformers Collection|Transformers Collection]]'' series, packaged along with [[Soundwave (G1)/toys|Soundblaster]] (the rebuilt form of Soundwave from the Japanese [[Transformers: The Headmasters (franchise)|''Headmasters'' series]]) and [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]]. As was the case when he was originally released with Soundblaster in 1987, Buzzsaw sports a different sticker in place of his cassette spool image; this version of Ravage now features this new decal as well, an image of [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] which reveals the city-bot's weak spots when viewed through Soundblaster's clear-red chest door (in the same way [[Tech Spec]] decoders work). Ravage's sticker highlight's Maximus's right leg; Buzzsaw's pinpoints his left shoulder.
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1984/Decepticon/Ravage/ravage.htm More information on Transformers Collection Ravage at TFU.info]''
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===Classics (2006)===
[[Image:G1toy_commemorative_ravage.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]
*'''Soundwave''' (Commemorative Edition, 2007)
**''Accessories:'' Left & right missiles, tape case

: Hasbro's first reissue of the original Ravage toy (identified as "Battle Ravage" on the packaging, but by his original name in the instructions) came packaged with Soundwave and Laserbeak. The set was originally intended to be part of their [[The Transformers: Generation One Commemorative Series|Commemorative Series]] of Generation 1 reissues, but when that line was cancelled, it was instead released as part of the ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' toyline. The phrase "Commemorative Edition" is prominently displayed on the front and sides of the box, though, and it remains exclusive to [[Toys"R"Us]], as all Commemorative Edition toys were. Just as Soundwave is effectively a redeco of the ''Transformers Collection'' Soundblaster figure, featuring a double-wide chest-door that allows Ravage and Laserbeak to fit inside him at the same time for the first time on a Hasbro release, Ravage also appears as he does in the ''Transformers Collection'' line, sporting the Fortress Maximus sticker in place of his cassette spools, but now with no way for it to be "decoded", since Soundwave's door is colorless. Ravage also comes with a tape case for the first time in Hasbro markets.
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/Decepticon/ClassicsSoundwave/soundwave.htm More information on Classics Soundwave at TFU.info]''
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===Titanium Series===
[[Image:Titanium soundblaster.jpg|right|thumb|300px|He's in there somewhere.]]
*'''Soundblaster''' (6" Cybertron Heroes)
:A ''[[Titanium Series]]'' version of the Soundblaster, a redeco of the "Cybertron Heroes" [[Soundwave (G1)/toys|Soundwave]] figure, was supposed to come with a tiny version of Ravage, as opposed to the original toy's [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]]. Although displayed at [[BotCon 2007]], the set was ultimately canceled along with several other solicited 6" Cybertron Heroes, but this did not stop Soundblaster from appearing as a cross-sell on the packaging for ''Titanium'' [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] in late 2008 (which claimed he would have been "also available" as of November 2008), as Hasbro was unwilling to spend the resources on altering the packaging for these already-complete products. Notably, Ravage was never actually seen in robot mode, only in cassette mode, tucked inside Soundblaster's chest.
 
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===Universe (2008)===
[[Image:Ravageuniverse2008.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I'm finally 3D now, but in exchange for some poseability.]]
*'''Autobot Hound''' (Deluxe, 2008)

:Surprisingly enough, the new-mold toy of Deluxe Class [[Hound (G1)|Autobot Hound]] for the 25th anniversary of the Transformers brand features a similarly new-mold toy of Ravage, which can be carried in "tape mode" on pegs in the back bed of Hound's vehicle form. In this mode, Ravage is compatible with either the original Soundwave or Soundblaster, and in jaguar mode, the 5mm holes can accommodate the weapons of the original Ravage (Even though there are tiny unpainted versions of the weapons above his hips).

:At [[BotCon 2008]], Hasbro claimed that Ravage's alternate mode would be marketed as a "capture mode" so that young children, unsavvy about technology from fifteen years before they were born, wouldn't be confused. Despite the toy arguably still treating Ravage as "captured" by Hound, the packaging only refers to Ravage's alternate mode as a "tape mode."

:This mold was also used to make [[BotCon 2010]] ''[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]'' [[Ravage (SG)|Ravage]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/TFURavage/ravage.htm More information on ''Universe'' (2008) Ravage at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:Universe2008toy soundwave.jpg|right|thumb]]
*'''Soundwave''' (2009)
**''Accessories:'' Left & right missiles, tape case

: In 2009, the original Ravage toy was once again included with another reissue of Soundwave as part of the ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' line, this time as a [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] exclusive that was prominently offered at San Diego Comic-Con 2009. He comes with his weapons and his own cassette case, and continues to sport the Fortress Maximus sticker from his ''Transformers Collection'' release in place of his cassette spools, the only tape in the set to do so.
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/TFUSoundwave/soundwave.htm More information on Universe Soundwave at TFU.info]''
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===Henkei! Henkei!===
[[Image:Henkei_houndravage.jpg|right|300px|thumb|]]
*'''Hound''' (Deluxe, 2008)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-13'''

:A [[redeco]] of Universe Ravage, Jaguar features the same plastic colors as his Universe counterpart, only his legs are a significantly darker metallic gray than the Hasbro version (so much so they almost look black in certain lights).

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===Device Label===
[[Image:Device Label Ravage.jpg|thumb|right|200px|From a data storage device often used to store music, to a data storage device often used to store music. Some things never change.]]
*'''Device Jaguar''' (Device Label, 2009)

:Part of the ''[[Transformers Device Label|Device Label]]'' series of functional electronic gizmos, "Device Jaguar" transforms from a working USB 2 gigabyte thumb drive into a black mechanoid panther.

[[Image:DeviceLabeltoy-Ravagedesktop.jpg|left|thumb|300px|$50 for a 2 gig thumb drive was a lot to ask for until we learned about this.]]

:Stored on the USB drive is an installable program called "Transformers Desktop Defender." When the Ravage device is plugged in, a Ravage avatar appears on the screen, transforming from thumb drive to jaguar mode as the program is activated. The program's setup allows you to rename your jaguar to anything you desire, alter the avatar's movement speed and his personality, decide whether he eats your desktop icons, and view his function, mission, and [[Tech Spec]] numbers. Whether he appears as Ravage or Tigatron can be selected as well.

:This mold was also used to make ''Device Label'' [[Tigatron]], and he came preloaded with the same program. It was later used to make [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] as well.
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===Encore===
[[Image:G1toy encore cassettes1.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]
*'''Great Cassette Operation''' (2009)
**''ID number'': '''15'''
**''Accessories'': Left & right missiles, tape case

: The original Ravage toy was reissued once again as part of Takara's ''[[Transformers Encore]]'' line, in the first of a series of cassette multi-packs alongside [[Rewind]], [[Eject]] and [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]]. This reissue of Ravage is the first to reinstate his original tape spool sticker, doing away with the Fortress Maximus sticker that had decorated the figure since ''The Transformers Collection''. Additionally, it relocates his rubsign to his flank, restoring the Decepticon insignia sticker to his shoulder that had only previously been included on his 1984 release. Of course, the figure came with its weapons and the now-standard cassette case.
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===Masterpiece===
*Masterpiece Ravage (2013)

{{coming soon}}

==Merchandise==
===Wallet===
*'''Ravage Wallet'''

: Released in 1984 as one of the earliest Transformers merchandise items, this vinyl wallet featured a holographic image that changed from Ravage's [[package art]] to the Decepticon version of the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] Transformers [[logo]].
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===Transformers Milk Caramel===
[[Image:Caramel_ravage.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]
*'''Jaguar''' (1985)
:A soft rubber figurine—known in Japan as a ''keshigomu''— of Ravage was released as part of the first wave of [[Kabaya]]'s ''[[Transformers Milk Caramel]]'' [[candy toy]] range. He came packaged with chocolate-covered caramel candies, and was available in white, blue, sky blue, yellow, green and orange.

===Transformers Choco===
*'''Jaguar''' (1985)
:A solid-color, snap-together model kit of Ravage was released by Kabaya as part of their ''[[Transformers Choco]]'' line of candy toys. It was available in various colors, came with candy-coated chocolates, and could fit inside the chest of the larger ''[[Transformers Gum]]'' model kit of Soundwave.
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===Transformers Gum===
[[Image:TFgum_ravage.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]
*'''Frenzy and Jaguar''' (1986)
:A larger model kit of Ravage was sold by Kabaya as part of their ''Transformers Gum'' line, in a two-pack with [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]]. Sculpted from black and grey plastic and featuring stickers for detail, Ravage is basically identical to his original toy, except he's actually a little bit ''larger'' than it! He's also too large to fit in the chest of the ''Transformers Gum'' Soundwave figure, but you can console yourself with the gum he comes packaged with.
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===Decoy===
[[Image:Decoy_ravage.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]
*'''Destron Hero Collection 22''' (multi-pack, 1986)
:Ravage was among the many characters rendered by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] as part of their series of 1.5" ''keshigomu'' figurines. Like all the Decepticons in the series, Ravage was molded in soft purple rubber, and featured a number sculpted into his back that was the sum total of his [[Tech Spec]]s, for use in the various games that could be played with the figurines. Ravage was available as part of a 22-piece box set of Decepticon figures, and later, in a peach coloration randomly packed as part of various other box sets.

*'''Ravage''' (1987)
**''Decoy number:'' '''49'''
:The figurine was later brought over to [[Hasbro]] markets as part of the [[Decoy]] promotion, largely identical to the Japanese release except for the fact that the number on his back was replaced with a simple "checklist" number. Like all Decepticon Decoys, Ravage was a randomly-chosen pack-in available with the carded [[Throttlebot]]s, [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]] and [[Technobot (G1)|Technobots]] and was, very early on in the promotion, available in an alternate red coloration that was only packed in with the Throttlebots. Unsurprisingly, this red figurine is much rarer.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Decepticon/Decoys/Ravage/ravage.htm More information on (Decoy) Ravage at TFU.info]''
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===Hard Hero===
[[Image:HardHero Ravage statue.JPG|right|200px|thumb|Classy cat!]]
*'''Ravage''' (2003)

:[[Hard Hero]]'s Ravage is a 5-inch tall, 8.5-inch wide cold-cast porcelain statue. It was limited to 2000 pieces and advertised as "first in the Decepticon Cassette Series", but ultimately no other Mini-Cassette statues were ever produced.

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[[Image:HardHero_metallic_Ravage.jpg|right|200px|thumb|]]
*'''Ravage''' (2003)

:The Ravage statue was also available in a shiny "metallic" version, of which only 500 were produced.

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===First 4 Figures===
[[Image:Gijoebaronessravagestatue.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Admit it, you wish you were Ravage right now.]]
*'''Baroness & Ravage Statue''' (unreleased)

:[[First 4 Figures]] first revealed this statue of the [[Baroness]] and Ravage, based on the cover from the Convention Edition of [[G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 3]], at Toy Fair UK 2006. Alas, after a three-year period of progressive delays in release attributed to a lack of retailer support, it was officially confirmed as canceled in early 2009<ref>[http://www.theterrordrome.com/2009/03/first-4-figures-baroness-ravage-statue-canceled/ TheTerrordrome.com reports on the Baroness/Ravage statue cancelation]</ref>—which is sad, since ''it's awesome''.
 
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===Transformers - Wall Plaque===
[[Image:Soundwave plaque.jpg|right|thumb|WALLcat.]]
* '''Soundwave''' (Diamond Select, 2006)

:Released by Diamond Select Toys in 2006, Soundwave was sculpted by [[Art Asylum]] and limited to 1,000 pieces. He is seen emerging from the space bridge with Rumble, Laserbeak, and Ravage in tow. Despite the being solicited as a Wall Plaque, this piece can not be placed on a wall in any way.
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===Robot Heroes===
[[Image:Ravage robotheroes.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Wavage!]]
*'''Optimus Prime and Ravage''' (Robot Heroes 2-pack, 2007)

: Released in 2007 as a [[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]] vs. pack with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/merchandise|Optimus Prime]]. Ravage is ''adowable''!.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/Decepticon/RHRavage/ravage.htm More information on Robot Heroes'' Ravage at TFU.info]''
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===3D Battle-Card===
[[Image:Ravage Battle Card.jpg|right|80px|thumb|Flat Cat.]]
*'''Ravage''' (3D Battle-Card, 2007)
**''Card ID number'':

: A 23-point "uncommon" character in the [[3D Battle-Card Game]]'s "Energon Wars" expansion, Ravage "transforms" into a black cat. He uses the same parts layout as [[Cheetor (BW)/toys|Cheetor]], [[Rampage (G1)|Rampage]] and [[Optimus Primal/toys|Optimus Primal]].
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===Transformers - Mini Bust===
[[Image:DiamondSelect FrenzyRavage bust.JPG|right|200px|thumb|"Rumble? Is zat you?" '''"No."''']]
* '''Frenzy & Ravage''' (Diamond Select, 2009)

:Ravage is sculpted pouncing alongside a cartoon-colored [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] in this bust. Sculpted by [[Mark Wong]] of [[Art Asylum]], it was an [[exclusive]] to the online retailer BigBadToyStore and limited to 600 pieces worldwide. Frenzy's tape mode is sculpted at the front of the bust's base.

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==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:3D Battle-Cards]]
[[Category:Alternators Decepticons]]
[[Category:Beast Wars Predacons]]
[[Category:Decoys]]
[[Category:Generation 1 Decepticons]]
[[Category:Henkei! Henkei! Decepticons]]
[[Category:Mini-Cassettes]]
[[Category:Repurposed toys]]
[[Category:Robot Heroes]]
[[Category:Transformers with three modes]]
[[Category:Transmetals 2]]
[[Category:Universe (2008)]]
[[Category:Wal-Mart exclusives]]

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2012-06-13T02:45:47Z

76.28.76.206: Undo revision 723266 by GalvatronTerror (Talk)

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--You should read these. And listen to them. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]]

Don't blank talk pages.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 22:45, 12 June 2012 (EDT)

Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On

2012-06-13T02:29:28Z

76.28.76.206: They have NAMES! From the TPBs concept sketches section on Amazon.com

{{Comicstory|
|seriesissue=''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye]]'' #2
|prev=Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It
|next=Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things
|caption=
|image=MTMTE2_cvrB.jpg
|title="Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On"
|publisher=[[IDW Publishing]]
|date=[[February 15]], [[2012]]
|coverdate=February 2012
|story by=[[James Roberts]]
|art by=[[Alex Milne]]
|colors by=[[Josh Burcham]]
|letters by=[[Shawn Lee]]
|editor=[[John Barber]]
|continuity=[[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW continuity]]
|chronology=[[IDW timeline|Current era (2012)]]
}}

'''The recovering crew of the ''Lost Light'' are joined by Skids, a bot on the run... but on the run from what?'''

==Synopsis==

On the barren planet where the ''[[Lost Light]]'' has put down, [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus]], [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] and others go about gathering up the [[Autobot]]s who have been scattered across the world's surface. [[Brainstorm]] radios in that he has discovered the source of their explosive mishap: the [[Duobot]] [[Ore]] was standing too close to the [[quantum generator]] when it activated, and wound up being "totally mashed" into it. Perturbed by Brainstorm's general tone of levity, Rodimus orders him to start helping with the search, then takes a call from [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]], who is with [[Rewind]] and [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]], hauling [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] out of a lake.

Meanwhile, in the skies above the planet, a small ship materializes. Its sole occupant is [[Skids (G1)|Skids]], who awakens with an [[inhibitor claw]] on his back and the knowledge that he is running from ''something''... but cannot remember what, finding that all of his recent memories are missing. Spotting a [[mode lock]] on the shuttle's console and realizing that it is trying to transform into something, he sets the ship on collision course with the planet and bails out. He watches the ship crash, but from the flames, its remnants transform into a trio of gigantic robots; one was killed, presumably in the crash, but the others are quite alive and quite hostile, advancing on Skids while wielding giant swords and repeatedly intoning the cryptic phrase: "nineteen eighty-four". Apparently lacking in any weapons, Skids improvises with the nearby corpses of [[Polaris]] and [[Hyperion (G1)|Hyperion]]: he magnetizes the former to one of the giant robots, then uses the latter's gun to blow Polaris up, taking the monstrous mechanoid with it.

Aboard the ''Lost Light'', [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] tends to the wounds [[Rung]] received before take-off, startling the timid psychiatrist by smashing his own hand with a hammer to loosen his joints. They discusss [[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]], who is being carbon-dated by [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]], and Ratchet grumbles about [[Drift (G1)|Drift]]'s newfound sense of unbearable positivity before half-heartedly turning his attention to the unconscious [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]]. Suddenly, Whirl awakens, seizes Rung, and begins throttling him, heedless of Ratchet and Swerve's attempts to calm him. The maddened Autobot only stops when Rung chokes out the warning that if he kills him, he'll go back to prison. Whirl snaps out of it and stalks off, the ruckus having awakened Tailgate, who is relieved to find out he did not kill the unhinged Autobot. Realizing that Tailgate is a 'bot out of time, Swerve begs Ratchet to allow him to be the one to tell him, and the "gentle" manner in which Swerve relates the information elicits a horrified bellow from Tailgate that is heard outside the ''Lost Light''.

Elsewhere on the ship, Rodimus meets with Cyclonus, who explains that he attached himself to the hull of the ''Lost Light'' to join in its mission. Though unapologetic for his past actions, he pleads his case for being allowed to stay and manages to sway Rodimus to his side, though Ultra Magnus is less than convinced. Having found Whirl skulking around, Magnus brings him into the room, and orders him to settle his argument with Cyclonus. Whirl does so without admitting any guilt, and is surprised when Cyclonus hugs him... only for him to whisper during the embrace that Whirl should watch his back, because he's going to kill him.

Swerve and Tailgate go for a walk outside, with Tailgate rebuffing Swerve's request to see his [[alternate mode]] on the basis that Ratchet told him to take it easy. They meet up with Chromedome and Rewind for some proper introductions, when Skids suddenly falls out of the sky with the last of the giant 'bots on his tail. Recognizing the Autobot—and noting that he has long been thought dead—Chromedome removes Skids's inhibitor claw for him, allowing him to deploy his weapons and finish his pursuer off with impressive ease. As things calm down, though, Chromedome points out that Skids has been holding a handgun all along, which he somehow never noticed...

Skids returns to the ''Lost Light'' with the other Autobots, quickly discovering he's earned himself a fan in Swerve, who artfully balances proposing that he and Skids team up and badgering Tailgate into transforming. Rodimus addressed the assembled Autobots on recent issues, but Whirl pipes up with a "pressing issues"—unimpressed with just about everyone else on the ship, he thinks the group should at least have a cool name. Swerve proposes "The Crusadercons", but Rodimus and Skids take issue with the -con suffix. Before any further discussion can be gone into, Rodimus gets a call from [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]], who has been investigating reports of noises on the lower decks with [[Shock]]... who is now lying dead by Red's side, his [[spark]] ripped out. Panicked, Red Alert relates his fear to Rodimus... that there's a [[Sparkeater]] on board!

==Featured characters==
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*[[Brainstorm]] (1)
*[[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] (2)
*[[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus]] (3)
*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] (4)
*[[Pipes (G1)|Pipes]] (5)
*[[Rollout (G1)|Rollout]] (6)
*? (7)
*? (8)
*[[Sureshot (G1)|Sureshot]] (9)
*[[Ore]] (10)
*[[Rewind]] (11)
*[[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] (12)
*[[Hoist (G1) |Hoist]] (13)
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*[[Skids (G1)|Skids]] (15)
*[[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] (17)
*[[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] (18)
*[[Rung]] (19)
*[[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]] (20)
*[[Drift (G1)|Drift]] (22)
*[[Polaris]] (23)
*[[Hyperion (G1)|Hyperion]] (24)
*[[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] (25)
*[[Mainframe (G1)|Mainframe]] (26)
*[[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] (27)
*[[Grapple]] (28)
*[[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] (29)
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*[[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] (30)
*[[Hound (G1)|Hound]] (31)
*[[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] (32)
*[[Gears (G1)|Gears]] (33)
*[[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]] (34)
*[[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] (35)
*[[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] (36)
*[[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] (37)
*[[Pointblank]] (38)
*[[Animus]] (39)
*[[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]] (40)
*[[Shock]] (41)
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*[[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] (14)
*[[Legislator]]s (16)
*[[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]] (21)

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==Quotes==

"Why are you—''aak!''—doing this?" 
"It's your '''eyebrows'''! He's jealous of your capacity for self-expression!"
:—When '''Rung''' is throttled by Whirl, '''Swerve''' proves to be little help.

'''Rewind:''' "'''Wow.''' It's time like this I'm glad I have a camera bolted to my head..." 
'''Swerve:''' "Nice '''moves'''! Who '''are''' you? An '''ex-Wrecker'''? One of the '''Warriors Elite'''? An old '''pit fighter'''?" 
'''Skids:''' "I'm a '''theoretician.'''"
:—That last line kinda feels like it's missing a "...motherf@#!er!" at the end.

'''Rodimus:''' "'''Look''' at them all. What do I tell them?" 
'''Ultra Magnus:''' "The '''truth'''. We've lost contact with Cybertron, we can't find ourselves on the map, Ore is dead, Hyperion and Polaris are dead, but Cyclonus is happy, so that's okay". 
'''Rodimus:''' "See, this is why you're not a public speaker." 
'''Drift:''' "I think you should accentuate the positive. We've got the quantum generators working again—big tick. We're ready to resume our quest—big tick. And we've managed to save '''virtually''' all of the Autobots who got pulled outside—that's more of a '''little''' tick, '''but it's still a tick!'''" 
'''Rodimus:''' "Hmm. I think I'll go for a mixture of depressingly gloomy and offensively upbeat. Thanks, guys."

"So, you gonna show me your alt mode or what?" 
"Ooh, '''alright''' then. But I'm taking it '''slow''', okay?" 
"Tell you what: I'll speak to Skids and pop back in about '''six million years' time''', okay?"
:—'''Swerve''' only teases '''Tailgate''' because he loves him.

"'The Crusadercons.' The more you say it, the cooler it sounds." 
"Someone hears that, they're gonna think we're Decepticons." 
"What, so it has to end in 'bot'?" 
"Well... '''yeah'''. Omnibots, Monsterbots, Duobots... it's kind of an '''unwritten rule''', isn't it." 
"Forget the '''rules'''! The war's over—it's time to '''reclaim the suffix'''!"
:—'''Swerve''' is just a really quotable 'bot, okay? '''Skids''' doesn't share our enthusiasm for him.

==Notes==
* If you don't get the double-meaning that British writer James Roberts has hidden in the Duobots' names, try saying "Shock and Ore" out loud with a British accent.
* The last page includes a summary of the crew members already introduced, with short introductions beneath. These include factoids such as Swerve's weapon of choice is his mouth, Whirl was twice voted "Autobot most likely to defect", and Ultra Magnus once smiled, and has regretted it ever since.
* The big-bots-with-swords keep saying [[1984|"nineteen eighty-four"]].
* Whirl is ''loathed'' by the other Autobots, with Ratchet openly hoping that something would prevent him from repairing him.
* At one point, Skids remembers his "Batch number, [[Tech Specs|Technical Specifications]], [[Function]]" and even his motto, which he finds lame.

===Crew Manifest===
* The fifty of so crew members lost during the quantum jump are all recovered. The only deaths were Polaris and Hyperion.
* Shock and Ore are killed by the Sparkeater and quantum jump, respectively.
* Skids and Cyclonus join the crew.
* 4 deaths, 2 new arrivals since the launch.

===Errors===
* When Skids is telling Chromedome to remove the inhibitor claw from his back, his gun is missing from his right hand.
* (And on Roche's cover, the gun is in his left hand, but whatevs.)

===Covers (3)===
* '''Cover A:''' Rodimus amongst injured Autobots; art by Alex Milne, colors by [[Josh Perez]].
* '''Cover B:''' Skids gets blown out of the ship; art by [[Nick Roche]], colors by Josh Burcham.
* '''Cover RI:''' Sketch (uncolored) version of cover A by Alex Milne.

<gallery>
Image:MTMTE2_cvrA.jpg|"Quit lying down on the job, ya bums!"
Image:MTMTE2_cvrB.jpg|Skids gets a helluva intro.
Image:MTMTE2_cvrRI.jpg|Cover RI
</gallery>

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