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Talk:Earth

2006-04-27T23:40:48Z

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I'm uneasy about the way the latest revision [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Earth&oldid=10131] constructs its timeline, seemingly declaring that Beast Wars definitely happened in the G1 cartoon universe and that the G1 cartoon universe is definitely the same as the GI Joe cartoon universe. (Or, at least, is similar enough that it includes Cobra-La for example.) Multi-continuity synthesis is sometimes appropriate, but should always be explained, and here I don't think it is appropriate in the first place. The entry would be much better off split up into sections for different TF series, like many of our other articles. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 23:05, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

The Ice age happened after beast Wars. [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 23:18, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

:X-bob- which ice age?
:Ar we sure we want to remove Cobra-La? Didn't Old Snake exhibit evidenc eof the changes from gi Joe:TM? -[[User:Derik|derik]]

:: He did, ya know. Scaley fingers comin' outta the gloves. Anyway, fair point on the G1/BW bit, I was jest a-portin' it over from Wikipedia without thinking enough about it. I do feel that the other Sunbow shows deserve ''some'' kinda reference here, though, even as a footnote or something, as they are nominally the same Earth. There's a bit of a list of [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5117&hl=hector+ramirez numerous connections] that may sway ye. - Chris McFeely
:::Haven't we already had the discussion re: Sunbow shows? I'm still against their inclusion on this Wiki.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 23:13, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
::: Yes, we've already had this discussion. Connections or not, Cobra-La never happened in Transformers fiction, and adding it in means we have to have a complete G.I. Joe, Dr. Who, and Fantastic Four wikipedia in this wiki as well. Hey, Death's Head met all these guys, you know? And they met all these guys, and ... I mean, dude, do we really want to have to make full entries on Presidents Reagan and Bush Sr? No. We stick to strictly what's been seen in Transformers material. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:16, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Was unaware that the discussion had been had already, so, fair enough. Can't say as how I particularly agree with it, though, and I don't see why one casual mention, or at least a single page detailing the concept of the shared "Sunbow Universe" automatically means a "complete wikipedia" is needed. I mean, does that mean that for a Death's Head entry, one cannot mention the fact that he met the FF, or the Doctor, or Dragon's Claws, or whatever - because that somehow means they need an entry? Ach, I have not the strength in me to argue. :) - Chris McFeely<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Earth

2006-04-27T23:25:26Z

81.156.242.1:

I'm uneasy about the way the latest revision [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Earth&oldid=10131] constructs its timeline, seemingly declaring that Beast Wars definitely happened in the G1 cartoon universe and that the G1 cartoon universe is definitely the same as the GI Joe cartoon universe. (Or, at least, is similar enough that it includes Cobra-La for example.) Multi-continuity synthesis is sometimes appropriate, but should always be explained, and here I don't think it is appropriate in the first place. The entry would be much better off split up into sections for different TF series, like many of our other articles. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 23:05, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

The Ice age happened after beast Wars. [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 23:18, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

:X-bob- which ice age?
:Ar we sure we want to remove Cobra-La? Didn't Old Snake exhibit evidenc eof the changes from gi Joe:TM? -[[User:Derik|derik]]

:: He did, ya know. Scaley fingers comin' outta the gloves. Anyway, fair point on the G1/BW bit, I was jest a-portin' it over from Wikipedia without thinking enough about it. I do feel that the other Sunbow shows deserve ''some'' kinda reference here, though, even as a footnote or something, as they are nominally the same Earth. There's a bit of a list of [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5117&hl=hector+ramirez numerous connections] that may sway ye. - Chris McFeely
:::Haven't we already had the discussion re: Sunbow shows? I'm still against their inclusion on this Wiki.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 23:13, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
::: Yes, we've already had this discussion. Connections or not, Cobra-La never happened in Transformers fiction, and adding it in means we have to have a complete G.I. Joe, Dr. Who, and Fantastic Four wikipedia in this wiki as well. Hey, Death's Head met all these guys, you know? And they met all these guys, and ... I mean, dude, do we really want to have to make full entries on Presidents Reagan and Bush Sr? No. We stick to strictly what's been seen in Transformers material. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:16, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Was unaware that the discussion had been had already, so, fair enough. Don't particularly agree with it, though, and I don't see why one casual mention, or at least one page at least detailing the concept of the shared "Sunbow Universe" automatically means a "complete wikipedia" is needed. I mean, does that mean that for a Death's Head entry, one cannot mention the fact that he met the FF, or the Doctor, or Dragon's Claws, or whatever - because that somehow means they need an entry? Ach, I have not the strength in me to argue. :) - Chris McFeely<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Earth

2006-04-27T23:22:14Z

81.156.242.1:

I'm uneasy about the way the latest revision [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Earth&oldid=10131] constructs its timeline, seemingly declaring that Beast Wars definitely happened in the G1 cartoon universe and that the G1 cartoon universe is definitely the same as the GI Joe cartoon universe. (Or, at least, is similar enough that it includes Cobra-La for example.) Multi-continuity synthesis is sometimes appropriate, but should always be explained, and here I don't think it is appropriate in the first place. The entry would be much better off split up into sections for different TF series, like many of our other articles. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 23:05, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

The Ice age happened after beast Wars. [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 23:18, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

:X-bob- which ice age?
:Ar we sure we want to remove Cobra-La? Didn't Old Snake exhibit evidenc eof the changes from gi Joe:TM? -[[User:Derik|derik]]

:: He did, ya know. Scaley fingers comin' outta the gloves. Anyway, fair point on the G1/BW bit, I was jest a-portin' it over from Wikipedia without thinking enough about it. I do feel that the other Sunbow shows deserve ''some'' kinda reference here, though, even as a footnote or something, as they are nominally the same Earth. There's a bit of a list of [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5117&hl=hector+ramirez numerous connections] that may sway ye. - Chris McFeely
:::Haven't we already had the discussion re: Sunbow shows? I'm still against their inclusion on this Wiki.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 23:13, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
::: Yes, we've already had this discussion. Connections or not, Cobra-La never happened in Transformers fiction, and adding it in means we have to have a complete G.I. Joe, Dr. Who, and Fantastic Four wikipedia in this wiki as well. Hey, Death's Head met all these guys, you know? And they met all these guys, and ... I mean, dude, do we really want to have to make full entries on Presidents Reagan and Bush Sr? No. We stick to strictly what's been seen in Transformers material. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:16, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Was unaware that the discussion had been had already, so, fair enough. Don't particularly agree with it, though, and I don't see why one casual mention automatically means a "complete wikipedia" is needed, but I have not the strength in me to argue. :) - Chris McFeely<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Earth

2006-04-27T23:06:49Z

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Talk:Earth

2006-04-27T23:04:32Z

81.156.242.1:

Earth

2006-04-26T11:09:08Z

81.156.242.1:

The planet '''Earth''', third from its sun in the Sol System in the Milky Way galaxy, as featured in the various ''Transformers'' series, is similar yet notably different from it's real life counterpart. This Earth is the shared setting for many other [[Sunbow Productions]] series.

Prior to the Ice Age, the majority of Earth was dominated by the kingdom of Cobra-La, ruled by the serpentine [[Golobulous]]. However, since Cobra-La's technology was based around living, organic matter, it could not survive the Ice Age, which destroyed the empire, forcing the Cobra-Lavians to retreat into caverns within the [[Himalayas]].

Around nine million years BC, the Earth was visited by the Transformers [[Starscream]] and [[Skyfire]], but Skyfire was caught in a polar wind storm and separated from Starscream, buried in ice. Then, four million years BC, the Transformers' spacecraft, the Ark, crash-landed in what would become the north-western United States, entombing the robots within in stasis. Apparently following this, the mysterious alies known as the [[Vok]] chose prehistoric Earth as the site of an experiment, and seeded the planet with vast amounts of raw [[Energon (Power Source)|Energon]], installing a second, artificial moon into the planet's orbit and placing several devices at strategic points on the planet. Around the time of the emergence of proto-hominids, a group of [[Maximals]] and [[Predacons]] from Cybertron's future travelled back in time to prehistoric Earth, where they waged a war they dubbed the "Beast Wars," and encountered the Vok, interfering in their plans. Deciding that the Beast Warriors had contaminated their experiment, the Vok activated the second moon, transforming it into a giant laser weapon with which they planned to detonate the Energon seeded throughout the planet, wiping it clean of life. This plan was foiled by the Maximal leader, [[Optimus Primal]], but the vast majority of the raw Energon on the planet was transformed into stable, cube form. Eventually, the Maximals returned to Cybertron with the Predacon leader, [[Megatron]] their prisoner. The only surviving Preadacon, [[Waspinator]], was left on the planet as the leader of a tribe of protohumans. Although they eventually rejected him and he too returned to Cybertron, it is unclear precisely how much influence Waspinator may have had on the evolution of humanity and their culture.

Earth is home to many unusual creatures and "hidden civilisations." Records of the existence of the subterranean monsters known as the Inhumanoids and their opponents, the elemental Mutores, go back to the [[Roman Empire]], and the temple of Angkor Wat was built as a prison for one of their number. With the successful imprisonment of the Inhumanoids, the Mutores turned to hiding themselves, and went unnoticed by humanity until the late 20th century. The underwater city of [[Sub-Atlantica]], populated by water-breathing fish-like humanoids, gave rise to the legends of Atlantis and other sunken cities. Also, fire-breathing [[dragons]] exist naturally as late as the medieval era, though by the 20th century, they appeared to have died out. A possible descendant was the unique, reptillian creatre known as the "beast of Borneo" captured by big game hunter [[Lord Chumley]].

The magma energy of the Earth's core is channeled by a series of green crystalline structures, which the Decepticons attempted to exploit in 1984, exposing a crystal shaft in the North Pole and tapping the core's energy (while, at the same time, happening upon and reactivating the body of Skyfire). Another unusual aspect of the planet is the natural existence of [[electrum]], a metallic alloy that renders Transformers invulnerable when coated in it.

By the year 2005, human interaction with the Transformers had resulted in an advanced level of technology worldwide, and the foundation of the Earth Defense Command, which operates a series of space stations. Saturn's moon, [[Titan]], was colonised, and an EDC base was established on [[Mars]], while travel between star systems was hugely enhanced by the creation of warp-gates. Earthling [[Spike Witwicky]] became Earth's ambassador, first to Cybertron, and then to other alien worlds as, through the Transformers, humanity came into contact with other races.

===Japanese series===

In the expanded fiction of the additional Japanese-exclusive animated series, the existence of the sunken continents Atlantis and Lemuria was confirmed. Later, it was revealed that a small group of Autobot and Decepticon Pretenders crash-landed on the planet in the Stone Age. While the Autobots used their Pretender abilities to adopt the form of humans, the Decepticons assumed monstrous forms and were mistaken by early man as "demons." Finally defeating the Decepticons and sealing them away - within the pyramids of Giza, the ruins of Atlantis and beneath the [[Nazca Lines]] of Peru - the Autobots then integrated themselves into human society, serving as secret protectors who quietly and subtly guided the evolution of human society.

A future version of Earth was later visited by Maximals and Predacons under the command of [[Lio Convoy]] and [[Galvatron]], respectively. At first known only as "Gaia," the world was known to have two sentient inhabitants, a girl named Artemis and her companion Moon. Although the prescene of what seemed to be a decimated Tokyo Tower suggested that Gaia was Earth, it was not fully confirmed until release of the ''[[Robot Masters]]'' toyline's version of Lio Convoy, the bio to which reavealed that Earth had been devastated by mankind's tampering with the power source known as [[Angolmois energy]].

[[Category:Planets]]<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>