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&lt;div&gt;What, if anything, does Classic Rod take from Energon Rod? Maybe it&#039;s just because I&#039;m not that familiar with the original, but I&#039;ve got them both here on my desk, and I just don&#039;t see it. Little help? --yo&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s the yellow things on his forehead. Energon Rodimus was the first one to get it, so the Classics and Titaniums figure take that visual element from the Energon character. -[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:23, 19 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Also, the flames being straight on a red chest, as opposed to being on top of an orange background on a red chest.--[[User:75.176.150.50|75.176.150.50]] 21:52, 19 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::ah-HA! Thank you both. Now I feel smarter! --yo&lt;br /&gt;
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I am going to try to fill this place up as much as possible, I have sooooo much odds and ends of Hot Rod/Rodimus merch........ -[[User:ProtomanXRED|ProtomanXRED]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I just realized this page is missing the World&#039;s Smallest TF version of Hot Rod, but I have no pictures or the figure itself to write anything for it.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 17:02, 5 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Revoltech Development ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Accidentally put this on the Hot Rod character page before discovering the toy page had been separated...&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m not sure how best to insert this info into the Toy/Merchandise section, so I&#039;m putting it here for now, both in Hot Rod and Starscream&#039;s discussion pages.&lt;br /&gt;
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Revoltech Yamaguchi versions of Hot Rod and Starscream are being developed for release on March 15.  Since they&#039;re still in the production process, the final figures may differ from the photos shown [http://ga.sbcr.jp/mreport/008583/ here]. No other details are currently available.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 08:25, 1 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: What a revoltech development... --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:53, 1 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m not sure whether to give you a point for getting the joke or deduct one for just repeating it.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:10, 1 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hot Rod Go-Kart ==&lt;br /&gt;
Why isn&#039;t this here, under merch?  [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 15:02, 24 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== G1 Hot Rod&#039;s Mystery Knees ==&lt;br /&gt;
This bit is totally new to me - &amp;quot;Before final production, the Hot Rod toy&#039;s legs extended to reveal exposed knees. This was changed between the first shot and final production stage. The knees are still present, just blocked by an additional plastic tab that keeps the legs from fully extending.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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So my question is, anyone got a good picture of the mystery knees?  Are they spherical like the animation model&#039;s or what?  I&#039;m really curious, but I don&#039;t care to shred my Hot Rod&#039;s stickers to find out, but especially since someone apparently did already.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 16:49, 5 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Henkei==&lt;br /&gt;
Why, again, is Henkei Hot Rod &amp;quot;not the same toy&amp;quot; as Classics?  We don&#039;t have separate entries for Armada Hot Shot/Micron Legend Hot Rod, and this is no different. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:30, 7 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I tend to agree, but then I think about the upcoming Henkei Sunstreaker and Prowl. Henkei is Japanese Classics, but Universe isn&#039;t strictly Classics, just some of the toys in them are made thematically in the style of Classics. I need sleep. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:11, 7 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Personally, I had not thought of Classics/Henkei as being precisely Hasbro/Takara versions of the same thing analogous to Armada/Micron Legend. To my mind, there is a bit more separation there. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 04:39, 7 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::They&#039;re the same toys representing the same characters, with deco changes.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:46, 7 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::See, I&#039;m of the opinion that all toys that are different should be in separate entries, regardless of if they&#039;re across-sea counterparts of each other. So, yes, I would say that &#039;&#039;Micron Legend&#039;&#039; Hot Rod should be separate from &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; Hot Shot. It seems silly to do otherwise while creating separate entires for multipacks with the exact same toy or &#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039; repackages. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 04:48, 7 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Well Walky, Kiss Players Hot Rodimus and Alternators Rodimus are the same toys representing the same characters but they still have different entries because the lines themselves aren&#039;t treated the same. I think the same applies with Classics and Henkei. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:54, 7 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
One can argue that due to Henkei having fiction much like Binaltech/Kissplay.  Also the line no doubt is going to contain figures that Classics/Universe won&#039;t have and vice versa.  It&#039;s a really grey area this issue.  Using Alternators as an example does not help cause a lot of wikia entrys act as the Alternator and Binaltech toy as one entry (Examples like Skids) The Rodimus case for Kissplay is unique due to his extras included (PVC figure, weapons, CD, ect).  Personally, I think any variation that is not within the line itself within it&#039;s own national release should be a seperate entry.  Like Hot Shot mentioned before, his &amp;quot;Hot Rod&amp;quot; Micron toy with light up feature should be listed seperate. Use this to come to a conclusion.  --[[User:ProtomanXRED|ProtomanXRED]] 04:57, 7 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Odd bits on G1 Hot Rod entry==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Hot Rod transforms from a robot into a &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot; hot rod sportscar based on the Nissan Dome Zero racecar designed in 1978. His robot mode bears some resemblance to Bandai&#039;s Super Robot Zanbo Ace and may have been partially inspired by it.&amp;quot;  Um...  The first line is only representative of Classics Hot Rod, and I&#039;m seeing only coincidental resemblances between Zanbo Ace and Hot Rod, especially considering I got shut down pointing out a &#039;much&#039; stronger connection on the [[Scrapmetal]] discussion page a long while back.  I&#039;m taking this stuff out until someone presents something concrete.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 05:11, 10 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:....yeah, I have no idea when that last bit got sneaked in there.  My gut says to yank it.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:37, 10 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Could be right on the car mode, but the robot mode is distinctively ressemblant to Zanbo Ace (the smaller robot on the page), from the head design, to the large V-shaped item on his back, to the V on his chest much like Hot Rod has a V-shaped flame pattern on his chest, and even the legs bear some slight ressemblance. This isn&#039;t quite the same as &amp;quot;they&#039;re both spidertanks!!&amp;quot;. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 05:41, 10 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::That Scrapmetal bit should be added, since &#039;&#039;Hasbro pointed it out&#039;&#039;. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 09:57, 10 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think the only tiny resemblance between Hot Rod and Zambo Ace is the V-shape (well, sort of) things on their backs. And this should belong to the trivia, not main article. --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:13, 10 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rodimus shampoo bottle ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Apparently, such a thing existed. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3MjYDodoJA&amp;amp;feature=player_detailpage#t=565s] --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 01:22, 6 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Masterpeice North American release ==&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generation-1-1/us-edition-masterpiece-rodimus-prime-revealed-172326/ --[[User:Primo|Primo]] 15:12, 31 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s awesome, but we can&#039;t mention it on the wiki unless information on it has been officially released. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 17:41, 31 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rodimus Prime&#039;s vehicle mode ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There is nowhere in the official fiction, production materials, catalogs, and source books that has address Rodimus Prime&#039;s vehicle mode as a Winnebago, or any recreation vehicle and or accessory for that matter. They have simply referred it as a futuristic truck or vehicle. The original instructions, seen [http://www.cobraislandtoys.com/tf/1986/rodimusprimeinstructions.jpg here], addresses the alt mode as a futuristic vehicle. The Winnebago or &amp;quot;Space Winnebago&amp;quot; claim, is nothing more than just a fandom joke. Possibly invented and perpetuated by Rodimus haters, who thought the best retaliation against the character was to label his vehicle mode as something that could be perceived as demeaning. Like what [[Pokeformers]] is to Armada. However, it&#039;s one thing to make jokes about something regardless of whether or not they&#039;re funny, but it&#039;s another to try and pass it off as fact. &lt;br /&gt;
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This site, along with the corresponding wikia, is supposed to be an encyclopedia of all things related to the Transformers franchise that based on proven facts and figures. Now I know it also prides itself satirical in its information, primarily in each article&#039;s image captions. Which seems to be a growing trend in Wikimedia. However, anytime a joke is taken as the gospel by the people who hear about it, it ceases to be a joke and becomes a rumor or and urban legend. I was playing along with the joke, until I had the multiple run-ins with people who believed the joke to be fact. So there needs to be clarified that it not fact, but rather a fan manifestation like [[JaAm]] and [[Trukk not munky]]. [[Special:Contributions/184.2.68.144|184.2.68.144]] 03:51, 5 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== ...and now you&#039;ll pay $200 to own him. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Not sure if that&#039;s a joke or not.  Speaking even as someone who liked the character as a kid I can&#039;t imagine myself spending that much money on faulty junk.  I&#039;ve been stung enough times with the obscenely overpriced so-called Masterpiece line.  It doesn&#039;t even look that good.  Stick with Classics Rodimus for a decent Hot Rod toy though I do find it strange that his toy never seems to be painted in his cartoon colors despite the now numerous redecos even when they seemingly try.[[Special:Contributions/82.26.185.202|82.26.185.202]] 06:49, 22 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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