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&lt;div&gt;Dude, stop. English names are not transferred across different characters. Big Convoy is not Big Prime. [[Gren]] is not Hook. Gaia Guardian is not Gaia Defensor, etc. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 21:50, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Big Convoy has never been named in English, Gren&#039;s never been named as that, and Gaia Guardian doesn&#039;t have an English name. Those examples don&#039;t work at all. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 21:55, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You are severely missing the point. The Kre-O character has no name, English or otherwise. All we have is the assumed intent of the writer (so, &amp;quot;Alexa&amp;quot;). What applies to the original character does not automatically apply to homages, as I&#039;ve shown with my examples.&lt;br /&gt;
::And, frankly, if you had an issue, a better method of action would have been discussing rather than automatically reverting the preference of the person taking the time to make those pages! [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 22:03, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Mimi has a point. using the Alexis/Alexa Kre-o as an  example; this wiki typically uses the Japanese name unless/until and  English name is made. So, while the Kre-O character  might be based  off Alexis from Armada, we must call her what the comic calls her. And since the comic calls her nothing, author intent is all we have to go on. I say stick with Alexa but keep the reference to  Alexis in the notes/[[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 22:27, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Eh. Whatever, I don&#039;t even know all that much about the Japanese names, so I&#039;m not the best one to ask about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 16:59, 15 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Give me a mistake in the paragraph please.[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Please don&#039;t say that being a woman is an insult.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:32, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For clarification, I think [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Waspinator_(BW)&amp;amp;curid=335&amp;amp;diff=828439&amp;amp;oldid=827733&amp;amp;rcid=666524 Supernova222] was the one who said it first. Just letting that out there. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 22:48, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I wasn&#039;t trying to sir. Inkblot is correct. I just undid my revision cause I wasn&#039;t sure if it was correct or not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:37, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:(sometimes I should just sit down and shut up.) [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:40, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You need to settle down just a little bit. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:34, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sorry, sir. I just got a bit too angry.[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 19:38, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please explain why you revert everything I contribute on this wiki?! - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 15:53, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The Ravage note was unessasary. The Team Prime image was fine, though you might want to move it to the episode section. Also, good job on editing the Soundwave ROTF page, the rape thing is one of the few PG-13 level things that is not accepted here. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 15:56, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Thanks. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 16:01, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Could you give me an example of a mistake in the paragraph in the AOE page? I checked it on EVERY grammar,punctuation and spell checker page to fix it. No problems... I even contacted my language arts teacher. No problem in the paragraph. It&#039;s getting a little bit fishy....[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Why did you remove my talk on the Knock Out page? I thought the talk pages were for disscussing changes? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:13, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re saying that being gay is a bad thing, and that is not acceptable. Quit it right now. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:15, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sorry, but being gay really is a bad thing, the Bible says so. But if the wiki community doesn&#039;t want it on there I won&#039;t add it again, okay? :) - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:19, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, it&#039;s not a bad thing. If you ever add that again, you will get into some major trouble. Now don&#039;t add it again. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:21, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Sorry, I won&#039;t add it again. But plz don&#039;t be so cross, I didn&#039;t know it was against the rules I&#039;m new here. what exactly do not mean &amp;quot;major trouble? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:24, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Being banned. Saying stuff like that is absolutely against the rules. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:29, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Okay, it&#039;s completely understood. :) But if I say &amp;quot;Bank robbers stink&amp;quot; is that okay? (Just thought I&#039;d better ask so I don&#039;t violate any more rules, LOL, not off to a very good start, am I? :))BTW, you got a YouTube channel friend? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:33, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::That is acceptable. And no, I don&#039;t. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:36, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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For the second time, chill. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:51, 5 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Zobovor]]&#039;s fake BW names on BW DVD ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for reverting my edit.  i really thought those were preliminary names for the BW characters!  --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:32, 25 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moving pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You realise that when you move pages, as you&#039;ve been doing when Kre-O cameos show up without even making a &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[x (Kre-O)]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; page, you&#039;re meant to fix the links to point to the new page, yes? [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Rattrap]] alone shows 333 &#039;&#039;mainspace&#039;&#039; links! (There&#039;s a reason for the bolded &amp;quot;Warning! This can be a drastic and unexpected change for a popular page; please be sure you understand the consequences of this before proceeding.&amp;quot; text!). - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 22:49, 24 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why did you revert my optimus prime edit and the edit someone else did? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:08, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For main images we use the first body or the body the characters had the most. Optimus Prime&#039;s appeared more in his body from the first three movies than the one from AOE, so we&#039;re sticking with the image we already had. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:11, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Would it not make sense to have a up to date image? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:16, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s not how it works. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:17, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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But shouldn&#039;t it be? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It would inform those not aware of the change, make the wiki seem up to date and would be a accurate representation of the character as he is now. --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:24, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Look, I didn&#039;t make the rules. You&#039;re going to have to ask someone like Itswalky, abates, or M Sipher about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:27, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Even then that image he uploaded is no good. Prime is smooshed in the center with all that wasted space on the big OPTIMUS PRIME in the background. We need a good clear shot of the character. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 19:14, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Vigilant Town ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Youtube version is actually edited in the last scene, explaining the Decepticon insignia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtEwQrlEAI4&lt;br /&gt;
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But the Hub network released this episode on their website, and most likely that&#039;s the original non-edited episode. http://www.hubnetwork.com/shows/transformers-rescue-bots/videos/full-episode-the-island-of-misfit-tech-episode-13-season-2&lt;br /&gt;
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Please check the differences before reverting. [[User:Klink|Klink]] ([[User talk:Klink|talk]]) 23:46, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wow, that Decepticon sigil was so blatantly edited in by someone else. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 23:57, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Eh. I hadn&#039;t seen the episode, and I&#039;d trusted abates judgement more than the newbie. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:59, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tenses==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, just a quick reminder that fiction sections need to be in the past tense. Thanks! [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 14:50, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, sorry about that. I&#039;ll remember next time! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:04, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Helloooo==&lt;br /&gt;
Hihi, I didn&#039;t realize there were any other translady editors of the TFWiki. Hello! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 19:06, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hello there! One of our admins is too, [[User:FortMax]]. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:39, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Embarrassing fact- she follows me on twitter, but I forgot she was an admin here, haha. Anyway, nice talkin to you, see you round the wiki! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 00:06, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Nice talking to you, too! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 11:59, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Response==&lt;br /&gt;
What are you specifically talking about.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The removal of the Scorn caption and comments you left on abates and Jalaguy&#039;s pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 17:35, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Scorn&#039;s caption does not come off as a joke, but at any rate, The Picture of Scorn is a concept art, and should be noted as such, given that concept art often does not share the same appearance of the final product. I&#039;m not necessarily opposed to humor by nature, but it shouldn&#039;t get in the way of information, on and information based site.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:56, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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EDIT:For future reference, when responding to a message, please leave it on the talk page of the person you are speaking to so they get a notification message.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, it really shouldn&#039;t. And no, that&#039;s not how it works either. You have to refresh talk pages and check recent changes to see if someone&#039;s updated a talk page. Don&#039;t put responses to things on your talk page to other people&#039;s talk pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:00, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why shouldn&#039;t it? It&#039;s the exact type of picture that needs context to explain it, official imaging that is altered or not representative of the final product.&lt;br /&gt;
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And, for the most part in my experience, wiki&#039;s use the method of response I use, as it guarantee&#039;s the user get&#039;s the message. Doing it the other way can lead to a number of complication, like the user not getting the message, or information being lost in communication.&lt;br /&gt;
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Final quick question, Are you an Admin or Mod?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:10, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, if they want to know what it is, they can just look at the description on the image itself. Stop trying to make the wiki work the wayt you want it to.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And I&#039;m not sure where you get that idea from. You&#039;re going to get the message, no matter what, Maybe it works that way at Wikia, but not here.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And no, I&#039;m not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:15, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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As you are not an Admin, I would like to ask you not to discuss this with me, as it&#039;s not really your place to. While I do appreciate the desire to look after a wiki that you contribute to, unless you are of a position of authority, trying to enforce any rule or policy will not result in desirable results, especially as the Admin&#039;s are the one who are really the one&#039;s to determine if a policy is being broken or not, and a standard user does not necessarily have the same ability to truly recognize this, and even if they do, they don&#039;t have the authority to do anything about it. For future references, if you think someone is breaking a policy or vandalizing pages, contact an Admin or site Mod, rather than taking matter&#039;s into your own hands, as this often does little to help the situation or can even make it worse.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:30, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:......It&#039;s a public forum. Just because I&#039;m not a moderator doesn&#039;t mean I shouldn&#039;t tell you that you&#039;re not doing what&#039;s right and ask you to stop. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:And even then, why wouldn&#039;t I know how to interpret the rules? The rules are stated outright among various pages. This isn&#039;t some message board. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:51, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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In theory, you are right, but in practice that rarely works. If the user is a true vandal, just messing up the page for kicks, it won&#039;t have achieved anything, and may in fact motivate said vandal to keep it up. If it&#039;s just another user, then you run into a several other problems. You may not truly understand the full meaning of policy&#039;s, or if they are truly being violated, especially if it&#039;s a gray type of situation. In those situation, you may just achieve amnesty with a new user who was trying to help. Many people do not appreciate being told what to do by a person in a non-authoritative position, as you are essentially the same &amp;quot;rank&amp;quot; as them, you don&#039;t truly have the authority to make any real demands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most Admins are Admins for a reason, normally they are excellent editors but also, more importantly, they have excellent crisis situation skills and know how to handle problems users, or users who may simply of made a mistake. At most, a person in a non-authoritative position should ever directly do in a situation where they think someone is breaking policies, is politely inform them of the site policies, and if the situation continues, notify an Admin and let them handle it, as there is little else of use you can actually do.&lt;br /&gt;
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As to misinterpreting the rule, it&#039;s easy to do, as not every situation fit&#039;s into the set rules perfectly, many situation have grey aspects to them and are not always easily resolved by a set forth rule, and need some one in a position of authority to properly resolve the situation. --[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:TFWiki doesn&#039;t have a massive problem with non-admin users giving advice to new users if it&#039;s basic stuff like &#039;please don&#039;t remove captions/add scores of new captions&#039;. Admins aren&#039;t always around, and sometimes new users just need pointing to our policy pages. That being said, Escargon, you can sometimes be a bit quick to jump down people&#039;s throats over stuff like this. Please try and remain calm and courteous when engaging with other users. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 19:01, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Alright. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:04, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well how many Transformers Wiki&#039;s are their?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:29, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:A couple. But we&#039;re the original one. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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That sort of takes the wind out of that arguments sails.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:43, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, it doesn&#039;t. We&#039;ve been around since 2006. We&#039;re far more succesful than any other attempt at making a wiki for TF. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:47, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Do you understand why I said it takes the wind out of the argument?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:49, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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While those are notable achivements, I&#039;ve been part of much smaller wiki&#039;s and wed communitys who can make similar claims, being invited to events and having content copied for outside use. Any communit of of fair size can recize and invint to big events and copying of content, if that is the case, unfortuently happens alot, many people take the easiest way out and instead of using their own  ideas, take them from other sources.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for your estimated user count, as it stands now from 2008 to now, about 13000 users have registered, so a little over 10000, rather than tens of thousands. Now grand majority of those who have registered have not bothered to make a user page, indicating a &amp;quot;fly by night&amp;quot; user who only made a hand full of edits before dropping off, and didn&#039;t stick around. I don&#039;t know the amount of users who activly take part on the site, but it wouldn&#039;t be anywhere near tens of thousands.&lt;br /&gt;
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But I&#039;d still like a response to my early question, do you know why I said it takes the winds out of that particular arguments sails? I&#039;d like to know if you know what I meant, and if so why you think I was wrong.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 23:07, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Would you knock it off? You&#039;ve already been told by the owner to stop it. Nobody here is going to agree with you and these other wiki&#039;s. Just stop. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:29, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve moved past that and will not pursue the humor issue at this time, but I do want to know what you though my earlier point was invalid. I feel that if you counter one of my point, that you should explain why. If you want to debet me, fine, but I want to be countered with facts and hard evidence, not &amp;quot;No it doesn&#039;t&amp;quot; and hyperbole--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 23:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Oh my god knock it off. I was guessing the numbers, not hyperboling, and you&#039;re still persuing it. You think that just because there&#039;s only a few TFWiki&#039;s it doesn&#039;t matter we&#039;re the best. Look at all those other wiki&#039;s. They&#039;re shit, like almost every wiki.&lt;br /&gt;
:Stop persueing this. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:37, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, no I&#039;m not. I&#039;ve left that issue alone. Now I&#039;m asking why you didn&#039;t considered my earlier point valid at the time. Now I simply wish to know if you actully had a point to counter my earlier comment or not. Now it has become a curiosity, not somthing I want to use to achive an end. And I will point out that wasn&#039;t my point when I made the comment.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 23:44, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:EDIT: And techcially, you were using hyperbole, given that your stated numbers were vastily larger than the real number......and I&#039;m pretty sure hyperboling isn&#039;t a proper word.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 00:03, 19 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Dude, stop. English names are not transferred across different characters. Big Convoy is not Big Prime. [[Gren]] is not Hook. Gaia Guardian is not Gaia Defensor, etc. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 21:50, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Big Convoy has never been named in English, Gren&#039;s never been named as that, and Gaia Guardian doesn&#039;t have an English name. Those examples don&#039;t work at all. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 21:55, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You are severely missing the point. The Kre-O character has no name, English or otherwise. All we have is the assumed intent of the writer (so, &amp;quot;Alexa&amp;quot;). What applies to the original character does not automatically apply to homages, as I&#039;ve shown with my examples.&lt;br /&gt;
::And, frankly, if you had an issue, a better method of action would have been discussing rather than automatically reverting the preference of the person taking the time to make those pages! [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 22:03, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Mimi has a point. using the Alexis/Alexa Kre-o as an  example; this wiki typically uses the Japanese name unless/until and  English name is made. So, while the Kre-O character  might be based  off Alexis from Armada, we must call her what the comic calls her. And since the comic calls her nothing, author intent is all we have to go on. I say stick with Alexa but keep the reference to  Alexis in the notes/[[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 22:27, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Eh. Whatever, I don&#039;t even know all that much about the Japanese names, so I&#039;m not the best one to ask about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 16:59, 15 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Give me a mistake in the paragraph please.[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Please don&#039;t say that being a woman is an insult.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:32, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For clarification, I think [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Waspinator_(BW)&amp;amp;curid=335&amp;amp;diff=828439&amp;amp;oldid=827733&amp;amp;rcid=666524 Supernova222] was the one who said it first. Just letting that out there. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 22:48, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I wasn&#039;t trying to sir. Inkblot is correct. I just undid my revision cause I wasn&#039;t sure if it was correct or not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:37, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:(sometimes I should just sit down and shut up.) [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:40, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You need to settle down just a little bit. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:34, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sorry, sir. I just got a bit too angry.[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 19:38, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please explain why you revert everything I contribute on this wiki?! - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 15:53, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The Ravage note was unessasary. The Team Prime image was fine, though you might want to move it to the episode section. Also, good job on editing the Soundwave ROTF page, the rape thing is one of the few PG-13 level things that is not accepted here. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 15:56, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Thanks. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 16:01, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Could you give me an example of a mistake in the paragraph in the AOE page? I checked it on EVERY grammar,punctuation and spell checker page to fix it. No problems... I even contacted my language arts teacher. No problem in the paragraph. It&#039;s getting a little bit fishy....[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Why did you remove my talk on the Knock Out page? I thought the talk pages were for disscussing changes? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:13, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re saying that being gay is a bad thing, and that is not acceptable. Quit it right now. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:15, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sorry, but being gay really is a bad thing, the Bible says so. But if the wiki community doesn&#039;t want it on there I won&#039;t add it again, okay? :) - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:19, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, it&#039;s not a bad thing. If you ever add that again, you will get into some major trouble. Now don&#039;t add it again. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:21, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Sorry, I won&#039;t add it again. But plz don&#039;t be so cross, I didn&#039;t know it was against the rules I&#039;m new here. what exactly do not mean &amp;quot;major trouble? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:24, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Being banned. Saying stuff like that is absolutely against the rules. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:29, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Okay, it&#039;s completely understood. :) But if I say &amp;quot;Bank robbers stink&amp;quot; is that okay? (Just thought I&#039;d better ask so I don&#039;t violate any more rules, LOL, not off to a very good start, am I? :))BTW, you got a YouTube channel friend? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:33, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::That is acceptable. And no, I don&#039;t. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:36, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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For the second time, chill. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:51, 5 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Zobovor]]&#039;s fake BW names on BW DVD ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for reverting my edit.  i really thought those were preliminary names for the BW characters!  --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:32, 25 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moving pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You realise that when you move pages, as you&#039;ve been doing when Kre-O cameos show up without even making a &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[x (Kre-O)]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; page, you&#039;re meant to fix the links to point to the new page, yes? [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Rattrap]] alone shows 333 &#039;&#039;mainspace&#039;&#039; links! (There&#039;s a reason for the bolded &amp;quot;Warning! This can be a drastic and unexpected change for a popular page; please be sure you understand the consequences of this before proceeding.&amp;quot; text!). - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 22:49, 24 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why did you revert my optimus prime edit and the edit someone else did? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:08, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For main images we use the first body or the body the characters had the most. Optimus Prime&#039;s appeared more in his body from the first three movies than the one from AOE, so we&#039;re sticking with the image we already had. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:11, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Would it not make sense to have a up to date image? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:16, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s not how it works. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:17, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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But shouldn&#039;t it be? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It would inform those not aware of the change, make the wiki seem up to date and would be a accurate representation of the character as he is now. --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:24, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Look, I didn&#039;t make the rules. You&#039;re going to have to ask someone like Itswalky, abates, or M Sipher about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:27, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Even then that image he uploaded is no good. Prime is smooshed in the center with all that wasted space on the big OPTIMUS PRIME in the background. We need a good clear shot of the character. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 19:14, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Vigilant Town ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Youtube version is actually edited in the last scene, explaining the Decepticon insignia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtEwQrlEAI4&lt;br /&gt;
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But the Hub network released this episode on their website, and most likely that&#039;s the original non-edited episode. http://www.hubnetwork.com/shows/transformers-rescue-bots/videos/full-episode-the-island-of-misfit-tech-episode-13-season-2&lt;br /&gt;
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Please check the differences before reverting. [[User:Klink|Klink]] ([[User talk:Klink|talk]]) 23:46, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wow, that Decepticon sigil was so blatantly edited in by someone else. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 23:57, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Eh. I hadn&#039;t seen the episode, and I&#039;d trusted abates judgement more than the newbie. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:59, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tenses==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, just a quick reminder that fiction sections need to be in the past tense. Thanks! [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 14:50, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, sorry about that. I&#039;ll remember next time! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:04, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Helloooo==&lt;br /&gt;
Hihi, I didn&#039;t realize there were any other translady editors of the TFWiki. Hello! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 19:06, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hello there! One of our admins is too, [[User:FortMax]]. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:39, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Embarrassing fact- she follows me on twitter, but I forgot she was an admin here, haha. Anyway, nice talkin to you, see you round the wiki! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 00:06, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Nice talking to you, too! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 11:59, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Response==&lt;br /&gt;
What are you specifically talking about.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The removal of the Scorn caption and comments you left on abates and Jalaguy&#039;s pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 17:35, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Scorn&#039;s caption does not come off as a joke, but at any rate, The Picture of Scorn is a concept art, and should be noted as such, given that concept art often does not share the same appearance of the final product. I&#039;m not necessarily opposed to humor by nature, but it shouldn&#039;t get in the way of information, on and information based site.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:56, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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EDIT:For future reference, when responding to a message, please leave it on the talk page of the person you are speaking to so they get a notification message.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, it really shouldn&#039;t. And no, that&#039;s not how it works either. You have to refresh talk pages and check recent changes to see if someone&#039;s updated a talk page. Don&#039;t put responses to things on your talk page to other people&#039;s talk pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:00, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why shouldn&#039;t it? It&#039;s the exact type of picture that needs context to explain it, official imaging that is altered or not representative of the final product.&lt;br /&gt;
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And, for the most part in my experience, wiki&#039;s use the method of response I use, as it guarantee&#039;s the user get&#039;s the message. Doing it the other way can lead to a number of complication, like the user not getting the message, or information being lost in communication.&lt;br /&gt;
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Final quick question, Are you an Admin or Mod?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:10, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, if they want to know what it is, they can just look at the description on the image itself. Stop trying to make the wiki work the wayt you want it to.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And I&#039;m not sure where you get that idea from. You&#039;re going to get the message, no matter what, Maybe it works that way at Wikia, but not here.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And no, I&#039;m not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:15, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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As you are not an Admin, I would like to ask you not to discuss this with me, as it&#039;s not really your place to. While I do appreciate the desire to look after a wiki that you contribute to, unless you are of a position of authority, trying to enforce any rule or policy will not result in desirable results, especially as the Admin&#039;s are the one who are really the one&#039;s to determine if a policy is being broken or not, and a standard user does not necessarily have the same ability to truly recognize this, and even if they do, they don&#039;t have the authority to do anything about it. For future references, if you think someone is breaking a policy or vandalizing pages, contact an Admin or site Mod, rather than taking matter&#039;s into your own hands, as this often does little to help the situation or can even make it worse.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:30, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:......It&#039;s a public forum. Just because I&#039;m not a moderator doesn&#039;t mean I shouldn&#039;t tell you that you&#039;re not doing what&#039;s right and ask you to stop. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:And even then, why wouldn&#039;t I know how to interpret the rules? The rules are stated outright among various pages. This isn&#039;t some message board. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:51, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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In theory, you are right, but in practice that rarely works. If the user is a true vandal, just messing up the page for kicks, it won&#039;t have achieved anything, and may in fact motivate said vandal to keep it up. If it&#039;s just another user, then you run into a several other problems. You may not truly understand the full meaning of policy&#039;s, or if they are truly being violated, especially if it&#039;s a gray type of situation. In those situation, you may just achieve amnesty with a new user who was trying to help. Many people do not appreciate being told what to do by a person in a non-authoritative position, as you are essentially the same &amp;quot;rank&amp;quot; as them, you don&#039;t truly have the authority to make any real demands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most Admins are Admins for a reason, normally they are excellent editors but also, more importantly, they have excellent crisis situation skills and know how to handle problems users, or users who may simply of made a mistake. At most, a person in a non-authoritative position should ever directly do in a situation where they think someone is breaking policies, is politely inform them of the site policies, and if the situation continues, notify an Admin and let them handle it, as there is little else of use you can actually do.&lt;br /&gt;
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As to misinterpreting the rule, it&#039;s easy to do, as not every situation fit&#039;s into the set rules perfectly, many situation have grey aspects to them and are not always easily resolved by a set forth rule, and need some one in a position of authority to properly resolve the situation. --[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:TFWiki doesn&#039;t have a massive problem with non-admin users giving advice to new users if it&#039;s basic stuff like &#039;please don&#039;t remove captions/add scores of new captions&#039;. Admins aren&#039;t always around, and sometimes new users just need pointing to our policy pages. That being said, Escargon, you can sometimes be a bit quick to jump down people&#039;s throats over stuff like this. Please try and remain calm and courteous when engaging with other users. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 19:01, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Alright. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:04, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well how many Transformers Wiki&#039;s are their?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:29, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:A couple. But we&#039;re the original one. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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That sort of takes the wind out of that arguments sails.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:43, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, it doesn&#039;t. We&#039;ve been around since 2006. We&#039;re far more succesful than any other attempt at making a wiki for TF. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:47, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Do you understand why I said it takes the wind out of the argument?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:49, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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While those are notable achivements, I&#039;ve been part of much smaller wiki&#039;s and wed communitys who can make similar claims, being invited to events and having content copied for outside use. Any communit of of fair size can recize and invint to big events and copying of content, if that is the case, unfortuently happens alot, many people take the easiest way out and instead of using their own  ideas, take them from other sources.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for your estimated user count, as it stands now from 2008 to now, about 13000 users have registered, so a little over 10000, rather than tens of thousands. Now grand majority of those who have registered have not bothered to make a user page, indicating a &amp;quot;fly by night&amp;quot; user who only made a hand full of edits before dropping off, and didn&#039;t stick around. I don&#039;t know the amount of users who activly take part on the site, but it wouldn&#039;t be anywhere near tens of thousands.&lt;br /&gt;
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But I&#039;d still like a response to my early question, do you know why I said it takes the winds out of that particular arguments sails? I&#039;d like to know if you know what I meant, and if so why you think I was wrong.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 23:07, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Would you knock it off? You&#039;ve already been told by the owner to stop it. Nobody here is going to agree with you and these other wiki&#039;s. Just stop. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:29, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve moved past that and will not pursue the humor issue at this time, but I do want to know what you though my earlier point was invalid. I feel that if you counter one of my point, that you should explain why. If you want to debet me, fine, but I want to be countered with facts and hard evidence, not &amp;quot;No it doesn&#039;t&amp;quot; and hyperbole--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 23:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Oh my god knock it off. I was guessing the numbers, not hyperboling, and you&#039;re still persuing it. You think that just because there&#039;s only a few TFWiki&#039;s it doesn&#039;t matter we&#039;re the best. Look at all those other wiki&#039;s. They&#039;re shit, like almost every wiki.&lt;br /&gt;
:Stop persueing this. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:37, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, no I&#039;m not. I&#039;ve left that issue alone. Now I&#039;m asking why you didn&#039;t considered my earlier point valid at the time. Now I simply wish to know if you actully had a point to counter my earlier comment or not. Now it has become a curiosity, not somthing I want to use to achive an end. And I will point out that wasn&#039;t my point when I made the comment.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 23:44, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:EDIT: And techcially, you were using hyperbole, given that your stated numbers were vastily larger than the real number.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Dude, stop. English names are not transferred across different characters. Big Convoy is not Big Prime. [[Gren]] is not Hook. Gaia Guardian is not Gaia Defensor, etc. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 21:50, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Big Convoy has never been named in English, Gren&#039;s never been named as that, and Gaia Guardian doesn&#039;t have an English name. Those examples don&#039;t work at all. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 21:55, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You are severely missing the point. The Kre-O character has no name, English or otherwise. All we have is the assumed intent of the writer (so, &amp;quot;Alexa&amp;quot;). What applies to the original character does not automatically apply to homages, as I&#039;ve shown with my examples.&lt;br /&gt;
::And, frankly, if you had an issue, a better method of action would have been discussing rather than automatically reverting the preference of the person taking the time to make those pages! [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 22:03, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Mimi has a point. using the Alexis/Alexa Kre-o as an  example; this wiki typically uses the Japanese name unless/until and  English name is made. So, while the Kre-O character  might be based  off Alexis from Armada, we must call her what the comic calls her. And since the comic calls her nothing, author intent is all we have to go on. I say stick with Alexa but keep the reference to  Alexis in the notes/[[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 22:27, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Eh. Whatever, I don&#039;t even know all that much about the Japanese names, so I&#039;m not the best one to ask about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 16:59, 15 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Give me a mistake in the paragraph please.[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Please don&#039;t say that being a woman is an insult.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:32, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For clarification, I think [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Waspinator_(BW)&amp;amp;curid=335&amp;amp;diff=828439&amp;amp;oldid=827733&amp;amp;rcid=666524 Supernova222] was the one who said it first. Just letting that out there. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 22:48, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I wasn&#039;t trying to sir. Inkblot is correct. I just undid my revision cause I wasn&#039;t sure if it was correct or not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:37, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:(sometimes I should just sit down and shut up.) [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:40, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You need to settle down just a little bit. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:34, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sorry, sir. I just got a bit too angry.[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 19:38, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please explain why you revert everything I contribute on this wiki?! - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 15:53, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The Ravage note was unessasary. The Team Prime image was fine, though you might want to move it to the episode section. Also, good job on editing the Soundwave ROTF page, the rape thing is one of the few PG-13 level things that is not accepted here. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 15:56, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Thanks. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 16:01, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Could you give me an example of a mistake in the paragraph in the AOE page? I checked it on EVERY grammar,punctuation and spell checker page to fix it. No problems... I even contacted my language arts teacher. No problem in the paragraph. It&#039;s getting a little bit fishy....[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Why did you remove my talk on the Knock Out page? I thought the talk pages were for disscussing changes? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:13, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re saying that being gay is a bad thing, and that is not acceptable. Quit it right now. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:15, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sorry, but being gay really is a bad thing, the Bible says so. But if the wiki community doesn&#039;t want it on there I won&#039;t add it again, okay? :) - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:19, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, it&#039;s not a bad thing. If you ever add that again, you will get into some major trouble. Now don&#039;t add it again. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:21, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Sorry, I won&#039;t add it again. But plz don&#039;t be so cross, I didn&#039;t know it was against the rules I&#039;m new here. what exactly do not mean &amp;quot;major trouble? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:24, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Being banned. Saying stuff like that is absolutely against the rules. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:29, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Okay, it&#039;s completely understood. :) But if I say &amp;quot;Bank robbers stink&amp;quot; is that okay? (Just thought I&#039;d better ask so I don&#039;t violate any more rules, LOL, not off to a very good start, am I? :))BTW, you got a YouTube channel friend? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:33, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::That is acceptable. And no, I don&#039;t. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:36, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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For the second time, chill. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:51, 5 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Zobovor]]&#039;s fake BW names on BW DVD ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for reverting my edit.  i really thought those were preliminary names for the BW characters!  --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:32, 25 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moving pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You realise that when you move pages, as you&#039;ve been doing when Kre-O cameos show up without even making a &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[x (Kre-O)]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; page, you&#039;re meant to fix the links to point to the new page, yes? [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Rattrap]] alone shows 333 &#039;&#039;mainspace&#039;&#039; links! (There&#039;s a reason for the bolded &amp;quot;Warning! This can be a drastic and unexpected change for a popular page; please be sure you understand the consequences of this before proceeding.&amp;quot; text!). - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 22:49, 24 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why did you revert my optimus prime edit and the edit someone else did? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:08, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For main images we use the first body or the body the characters had the most. Optimus Prime&#039;s appeared more in his body from the first three movies than the one from AOE, so we&#039;re sticking with the image we already had. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:11, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Would it not make sense to have a up to date image? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:16, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s not how it works. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:17, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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But shouldn&#039;t it be? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It would inform those not aware of the change, make the wiki seem up to date and would be a accurate representation of the character as he is now. --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:24, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Look, I didn&#039;t make the rules. You&#039;re going to have to ask someone like Itswalky, abates, or M Sipher about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:27, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Even then that image he uploaded is no good. Prime is smooshed in the center with all that wasted space on the big OPTIMUS PRIME in the background. We need a good clear shot of the character. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 19:14, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Vigilant Town ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Youtube version is actually edited in the last scene, explaining the Decepticon insignia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtEwQrlEAI4&lt;br /&gt;
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But the Hub network released this episode on their website, and most likely that&#039;s the original non-edited episode. http://www.hubnetwork.com/shows/transformers-rescue-bots/videos/full-episode-the-island-of-misfit-tech-episode-13-season-2&lt;br /&gt;
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Please check the differences before reverting. [[User:Klink|Klink]] ([[User talk:Klink|talk]]) 23:46, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wow, that Decepticon sigil was so blatantly edited in by someone else. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 23:57, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Eh. I hadn&#039;t seen the episode, and I&#039;d trusted abates judgement more than the newbie. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:59, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tenses==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, just a quick reminder that fiction sections need to be in the past tense. Thanks! [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 14:50, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, sorry about that. I&#039;ll remember next time! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:04, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Helloooo==&lt;br /&gt;
Hihi, I didn&#039;t realize there were any other translady editors of the TFWiki. Hello! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 19:06, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hello there! One of our admins is too, [[User:FortMax]]. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:39, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Embarrassing fact- she follows me on twitter, but I forgot she was an admin here, haha. Anyway, nice talkin to you, see you round the wiki! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 00:06, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Nice talking to you, too! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 11:59, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Response==&lt;br /&gt;
What are you specifically talking about.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The removal of the Scorn caption and comments you left on abates and Jalaguy&#039;s pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 17:35, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Scorn&#039;s caption does not come off as a joke, but at any rate, The Picture of Scorn is a concept art, and should be noted as such, given that concept art often does not share the same appearance of the final product. I&#039;m not necessarily opposed to humor by nature, but it shouldn&#039;t get in the way of information, on and information based site.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:56, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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EDIT:For future reference, when responding to a message, please leave it on the talk page of the person you are speaking to so they get a notification message.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, it really shouldn&#039;t. And no, that&#039;s not how it works either. You have to refresh talk pages and check recent changes to see if someone&#039;s updated a talk page. Don&#039;t put responses to things on your talk page to other people&#039;s talk pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:00, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why shouldn&#039;t it? It&#039;s the exact type of picture that needs context to explain it, official imaging that is altered or not representative of the final product.&lt;br /&gt;
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And, for the most part in my experience, wiki&#039;s use the method of response I use, as it guarantee&#039;s the user get&#039;s the message. Doing it the other way can lead to a number of complication, like the user not getting the message, or information being lost in communication.&lt;br /&gt;
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Final quick question, Are you an Admin or Mod?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:10, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, if they want to know what it is, they can just look at the description on the image itself. Stop trying to make the wiki work the wayt you want it to.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And I&#039;m not sure where you get that idea from. You&#039;re going to get the message, no matter what, Maybe it works that way at Wikia, but not here.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And no, I&#039;m not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:15, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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As you are not an Admin, I would like to ask you not to discuss this with me, as it&#039;s not really your place to. While I do appreciate the desire to look after a wiki that you contribute to, unless you are of a position of authority, trying to enforce any rule or policy will not result in desirable results, especially as the Admin&#039;s are the one who are really the one&#039;s to determine if a policy is being broken or not, and a standard user does not necessarily have the same ability to truly recognize this, and even if they do, they don&#039;t have the authority to do anything about it. For future references, if you think someone is breaking a policy or vandalizing pages, contact an Admin or site Mod, rather than taking matter&#039;s into your own hands, as this often does little to help the situation or can even make it worse.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:30, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:......It&#039;s a public forum. Just because I&#039;m not a moderator doesn&#039;t mean I shouldn&#039;t tell you that you&#039;re not doing what&#039;s right and ask you to stop. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:And even then, why wouldn&#039;t I know how to interpret the rules? The rules are stated outright among various pages. This isn&#039;t some message board. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:51, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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In theory, you are right, but in practice that rarely works. If the user is a true vandal, just messing up the page for kicks, it won&#039;t have achieved anything, and may in fact motivate said vandal to keep it up. If it&#039;s just another user, then you run into a several other problems. You may not truly understand the full meaning of policy&#039;s, or if they are truly being violated, especially if it&#039;s a gray type of situation. In those situation, you may just achieve amnesty with a new user who was trying to help. Many people do not appreciate being told what to do by a person in a non-authoritative position, as you are essentially the same &amp;quot;rank&amp;quot; as them, you don&#039;t truly have the authority to make any real demands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most Admins are Admins for a reason, normally they are excellent editors but also, more importantly, they have excellent crisis situation skills and know how to handle problems users, or users who may simply of made a mistake. At most, a person in a non-authoritative position should ever directly do in a situation where they think someone is breaking policies, is politely inform them of the site policies, and if the situation continues, notify an Admin and let them handle it, as there is little else of use you can actually do.&lt;br /&gt;
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As to misinterpreting the rule, it&#039;s easy to do, as not every situation fit&#039;s into the set rules perfectly, many situation have grey aspects to them and are not always easily resolved by a set forth rule, and need some one in a position of authority to properly resolve the situation. --[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:TFWiki doesn&#039;t have a massive problem with non-admin users giving advice to new users if it&#039;s basic stuff like &#039;please don&#039;t remove captions/add scores of new captions&#039;. Admins aren&#039;t always around, and sometimes new users just need pointing to our policy pages. That being said, Escargon, you can sometimes be a bit quick to jump down people&#039;s throats over stuff like this. Please try and remain calm and courteous when engaging with other users. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 19:01, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Alright. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:04, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well how many Transformers Wiki&#039;s are their?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:29, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:A couple. But we&#039;re the original one. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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That sort of takes the wind out of that arguments sails.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:43, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, it doesn&#039;t. We&#039;ve been around since 2006. We&#039;re far more succesful than any other attempt at making a wiki for TF. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:47, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Do you understand why I said it takes the wind out of the argument?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:49, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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While those are notable achivements, I&#039;ve been part of much smaller wiki&#039;s and wed communitys who can make similar claims, being invited to events and having content copied for outside use. Any communit of of fair size can recize and invint to big events and copying of content, if that is the case, unfortuently happens alot, many people take the easiest way out and instead of using their own  ideas, take them from other sources.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for your estimated user count, as it stands now from 2008 to now, about 13000 users have registered, so a little over 10000, rather than tens of thousands. Now grand majority of those who have registered have not bothered to make a user page, indicating a &amp;quot;fly by night&amp;quot; user who only made a hand full of edits before dropping off, and didn&#039;t stick around. I don&#039;t know the amount of users who activly take part on the site, but it wouldn&#039;t be anywhere near tens of thousands.&lt;br /&gt;
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But I&#039;d still like a response to my early question, do you know why I said it takes the winds out of that particular arguments sails? I&#039;d like to know if you know what I meant, and if so why you think I was wrong.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 23:07, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Would you knock it off? You&#039;ve already been told by the owner to stop it. Nobody here is going to agree with you and these other wiki&#039;s. Just stop. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:29, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve moved past that and will not pursue the humor issue at this time, but I do want to know what you though my earlier point was invalid. I feel that if you counter one of my point, that you should explain why. If you want to debet me, fine, but I want to be countered with facts and hard evidence, not &amp;quot;No it doesn&#039;t&amp;quot; and hyperbole--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 23:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Oh my god knock it off. I was guessing the numbers, not hyperboling, and you&#039;re still persuing it. You think that just because there&#039;s only a few TFWiki&#039;s it doesn&#039;t matter we&#039;re the best. Look at all those other wiki&#039;s. They&#039;re shit, like almost every wiki.&lt;br /&gt;
:Stop persueing this. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:37, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, no I&#039;m not. I&#039;ve left that issue alone. Now I&#039;m asking why you didn&#039;t considered my earlier point valid at the time. Now I simply wish to know if you actully had a point to counter my earlier comment or not. Now it has become a curiosity, not somthing I want to use to achive an end. And I will point out that wasn&#039;t my point when I made the comment.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 23:44, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Dude, stop. English names are not transferred across different characters. Big Convoy is not Big Prime. [[Gren]] is not Hook. Gaia Guardian is not Gaia Defensor, etc. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 21:50, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Big Convoy has never been named in English, Gren&#039;s never been named as that, and Gaia Guardian doesn&#039;t have an English name. Those examples don&#039;t work at all. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 21:55, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You are severely missing the point. The Kre-O character has no name, English or otherwise. All we have is the assumed intent of the writer (so, &amp;quot;Alexa&amp;quot;). What applies to the original character does not automatically apply to homages, as I&#039;ve shown with my examples.&lt;br /&gt;
::And, frankly, if you had an issue, a better method of action would have been discussing rather than automatically reverting the preference of the person taking the time to make those pages! [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 22:03, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Mimi has a point. using the Alexis/Alexa Kre-o as an  example; this wiki typically uses the Japanese name unless/until and  English name is made. So, while the Kre-O character  might be based  off Alexis from Armada, we must call her what the comic calls her. And since the comic calls her nothing, author intent is all we have to go on. I say stick with Alexa but keep the reference to  Alexis in the notes/[[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 22:27, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Eh. Whatever, I don&#039;t even know all that much about the Japanese names, so I&#039;m not the best one to ask about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 16:59, 15 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Give me a mistake in the paragraph please.[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Please don&#039;t say that being a woman is an insult.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:32, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For clarification, I think [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Waspinator_(BW)&amp;amp;curid=335&amp;amp;diff=828439&amp;amp;oldid=827733&amp;amp;rcid=666524 Supernova222] was the one who said it first. Just letting that out there. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 22:48, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I wasn&#039;t trying to sir. Inkblot is correct. I just undid my revision cause I wasn&#039;t sure if it was correct or not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:37, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:(sometimes I should just sit down and shut up.) [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:40, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You need to settle down just a little bit. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:34, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sorry, sir. I just got a bit too angry.[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 19:38, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please explain why you revert everything I contribute on this wiki?! - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 15:53, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The Ravage note was unessasary. The Team Prime image was fine, though you might want to move it to the episode section. Also, good job on editing the Soundwave ROTF page, the rape thing is one of the few PG-13 level things that is not accepted here. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 15:56, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Thanks. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 16:01, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Could you give me an example of a mistake in the paragraph in the AOE page? I checked it on EVERY grammar,punctuation and spell checker page to fix it. No problems... I even contacted my language arts teacher. No problem in the paragraph. It&#039;s getting a little bit fishy....[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Why did you remove my talk on the Knock Out page? I thought the talk pages were for disscussing changes? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:13, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re saying that being gay is a bad thing, and that is not acceptable. Quit it right now. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:15, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sorry, but being gay really is a bad thing, the Bible says so. But if the wiki community doesn&#039;t want it on there I won&#039;t add it again, okay? :) - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:19, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, it&#039;s not a bad thing. If you ever add that again, you will get into some major trouble. Now don&#039;t add it again. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:21, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Sorry, I won&#039;t add it again. But plz don&#039;t be so cross, I didn&#039;t know it was against the rules I&#039;m new here. what exactly do not mean &amp;quot;major trouble? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:24, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Being banned. Saying stuff like that is absolutely against the rules. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:29, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Okay, it&#039;s completely understood. :) But if I say &amp;quot;Bank robbers stink&amp;quot; is that okay? (Just thought I&#039;d better ask so I don&#039;t violate any more rules, LOL, not off to a very good start, am I? :))BTW, you got a YouTube channel friend? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:33, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::That is acceptable. And no, I don&#039;t. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:36, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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For the second time, chill. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:51, 5 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Zobovor]]&#039;s fake BW names on BW DVD ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for reverting my edit.  i really thought those were preliminary names for the BW characters!  --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:32, 25 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moving pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You realise that when you move pages, as you&#039;ve been doing when Kre-O cameos show up without even making a &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[x (Kre-O)]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; page, you&#039;re meant to fix the links to point to the new page, yes? [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Rattrap]] alone shows 333 &#039;&#039;mainspace&#039;&#039; links! (There&#039;s a reason for the bolded &amp;quot;Warning! This can be a drastic and unexpected change for a popular page; please be sure you understand the consequences of this before proceeding.&amp;quot; text!). - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 22:49, 24 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why did you revert my optimus prime edit and the edit someone else did? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:08, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For main images we use the first body or the body the characters had the most. Optimus Prime&#039;s appeared more in his body from the first three movies than the one from AOE, so we&#039;re sticking with the image we already had. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:11, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Would it not make sense to have a up to date image? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:16, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s not how it works. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:17, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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But shouldn&#039;t it be? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It would inform those not aware of the change, make the wiki seem up to date and would be a accurate representation of the character as he is now. --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:24, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Look, I didn&#039;t make the rules. You&#039;re going to have to ask someone like Itswalky, abates, or M Sipher about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:27, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Even then that image he uploaded is no good. Prime is smooshed in the center with all that wasted space on the big OPTIMUS PRIME in the background. We need a good clear shot of the character. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 19:14, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Vigilant Town ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Youtube version is actually edited in the last scene, explaining the Decepticon insignia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtEwQrlEAI4&lt;br /&gt;
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But the Hub network released this episode on their website, and most likely that&#039;s the original non-edited episode. http://www.hubnetwork.com/shows/transformers-rescue-bots/videos/full-episode-the-island-of-misfit-tech-episode-13-season-2&lt;br /&gt;
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Please check the differences before reverting. [[User:Klink|Klink]] ([[User talk:Klink|talk]]) 23:46, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wow, that Decepticon sigil was so blatantly edited in by someone else. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 23:57, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Eh. I hadn&#039;t seen the episode, and I&#039;d trusted abates judgement more than the newbie. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:59, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tenses==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, just a quick reminder that fiction sections need to be in the past tense. Thanks! [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 14:50, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, sorry about that. I&#039;ll remember next time! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:04, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Helloooo==&lt;br /&gt;
Hihi, I didn&#039;t realize there were any other translady editors of the TFWiki. Hello! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 19:06, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hello there! One of our admins is too, [[User:FortMax]]. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:39, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Embarrassing fact- she follows me on twitter, but I forgot she was an admin here, haha. Anyway, nice talkin to you, see you round the wiki! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 00:06, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Nice talking to you, too! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 11:59, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Response==&lt;br /&gt;
What are you specifically talking about.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The removal of the Scorn caption and comments you left on abates and Jalaguy&#039;s pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 17:35, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Scorn&#039;s caption does not come off as a joke, but at any rate, The Picture of Scorn is a concept art, and should be noted as such, given that concept art often does not share the same appearance of the final product. I&#039;m not necessarily opposed to humor by nature, but it shouldn&#039;t get in the way of information, on and information based site.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:56, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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EDIT:For future reference, when responding to a message, please leave it on the talk page of the person you are speaking to so they get a notification message.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, it really shouldn&#039;t. And no, that&#039;s not how it works either. You have to refresh talk pages and check recent changes to see if someone&#039;s updated a talk page. Don&#039;t put responses to things on your talk page to other people&#039;s talk pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:00, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why shouldn&#039;t it? It&#039;s the exact type of picture that needs context to explain it, official imaging that is altered or not representative of the final product.&lt;br /&gt;
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And, for the most part in my experience, wiki&#039;s use the method of response I use, as it guarantee&#039;s the user get&#039;s the message. Doing it the other way can lead to a number of complication, like the user not getting the message, or information being lost in communication.&lt;br /&gt;
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Final quick question, Are you an Admin or Mod?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:10, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, if they want to know what it is, they can just look at the description on the image itself. Stop trying to make the wiki work the wayt you want it to.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And I&#039;m not sure where you get that idea from. You&#039;re going to get the message, no matter what, Maybe it works that way at Wikia, but not here.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And no, I&#039;m not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:15, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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As you are not an Admin, I would like to ask you not to discuss this with me, as it&#039;s not really your place to. While I do appreciate the desire to look after a wiki that you contribute to, unless you are of a position of authority, trying to enforce any rule or policy will not result in desirable results, especially as the Admin&#039;s are the one who are really the one&#039;s to determine if a policy is being broken or not, and a standard user does not necessarily have the same ability to truly recognize this, and even if they do, they don&#039;t have the authority to do anything about it. For future references, if you think someone is breaking a policy or vandalizing pages, contact an Admin or site Mod, rather than taking matter&#039;s into your own hands, as this often does little to help the situation or can even make it worse.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:30, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:......It&#039;s a public forum. Just because I&#039;m not a moderator doesn&#039;t mean I shouldn&#039;t tell you that you&#039;re not doing what&#039;s right and ask you to stop. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:And even then, why wouldn&#039;t I know how to interpret the rules? The rules are stated outright among various pages. This isn&#039;t some message board. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:51, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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In theory, you are right, but in practice that rarely works. If the user is a true vandal, just messing up the page for kicks, it won&#039;t have achieved anything, and may in fact motivate said vandal to keep it up. If it&#039;s just another user, then you run into a several other problems. You may not truly understand the full meaning of policy&#039;s, or if they are truly being violated, especially if it&#039;s a gray type of situation. In those situation, you may just achieve amnesty with a new user who was trying to help. Many people do not appreciate being told what to do by a person in a non-authoritative position, as you are essentially the same &amp;quot;rank&amp;quot; as them, you don&#039;t truly have the authority to make any real demands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most Admins are Admins for a reason, normally they are excellent editors but also, more importantly, they have excellent crisis situation skills and know how to handle problems users, or users who may simply of made a mistake. At most, a person in a non-authoritative position should ever directly do in a situation where they think someone is breaking policies, is politely inform them of the site policies, and if the situation continues, notify an Admin and let them handle it, as there is little else of use you can actually do.&lt;br /&gt;
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As to misinterpreting the rule, it&#039;s easy to do, as not every situation fit&#039;s into the set rules perfectly, many situation have grey aspects to them and are not always easily resolved by a set forth rule, and need some one in a position of authority to properly resolve the situation. --[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:TFWiki doesn&#039;t have a massive problem with non-admin users giving advice to new users if it&#039;s basic stuff like &#039;please don&#039;t remove captions/add scores of new captions&#039;. Admins aren&#039;t always around, and sometimes new users just need pointing to our policy pages. That being said, Escargon, you can sometimes be a bit quick to jump down people&#039;s throats over stuff like this. Please try and remain calm and courteous when engaging with other users. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 19:01, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Alright. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:04, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well how many Transformers Wiki&#039;s are their?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:29, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:A couple. But we&#039;re the original one. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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That sort of takes the wind out of that arguments sails.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:43, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, it doesn&#039;t. We&#039;ve been around since 2006. We&#039;re far more succesful than any other attempt at making a wiki for TF. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:47, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Do you understand why I said it takes the wind out of the argument?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:49, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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In response to comment on abates page&lt;br /&gt;
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While those are notable achivements, I&#039;ve been part of much smaller wiki&#039;s and wed communitys who can make similar claims, being invited to events and having content copied for outside use. Any communit of of fair size can recize and invint to big events and copying of content, if that is the case, unfortuently happens alot, many people take the easiest way out and instead of using their own  ideas, take them from other sources.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for your estimated user count, as it stands now from 2008 to now, about 13000 users have registered, so a little over 10000, rather than tens of thousands. Now grand majority of those who have registered have not bothered to make a user page, indicating a &amp;quot;fly by night&amp;quot; user who only made a hand full of edits before dropping off, and didn&#039;t stick around. I don&#039;t know the amount of users who activly take part on the site, but it wouldn&#039;t be anywhere near tens of thousands.&lt;br /&gt;
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But I&#039;d still like a response to my early question, do you know why I said it takes the winds out of that particular arguments sails? I&#039;d like to know if you know what I meant, and if so why you think I was wrong.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 23:07, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Would you knock it off? You&#039;ve already been told by the owner to stop it. Nobody here is going to agree with you and these other wiki&#039;s. Just stop. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:29, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve moved past that and will not pursue the humor issue at this time, but I do want to know what you though my earlier point was invalid. I feel that if you counter one of my point, that you should explain why. If you want to debet me, fine, but I want to be countered with facts and hard evidence, not &amp;quot;No it doesn&#039;t&amp;quot; and hyperbole--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 23:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;8492nd: /* Response */ Adding information I typed by accidently removed while typing in outside wiki word document&lt;/p&gt;
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==To-Do List==&lt;br /&gt;
===Operation: Screen Captures===&lt;br /&gt;
Screen cap (re)tagging:&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Generation 1 screen captures|G1]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:The Headmasters screen captures|Headmasters]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;/[[:Category:Super-God Masterforce screen captures|Masterforce]]/&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Victory screen captures|Victory]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;/&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Zone screen captures|Zone]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Beast Wars screen captures|Beast Wars]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;/&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Beast Machines screen captures|Beast Machines]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Robots in Disguise screen captures|Robots in Disguise]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Armada screen captures|Armada]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;/[[:Category:Energon screen captures|Energon]]/&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Cybertron screen captures|Cybertron]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Animated screen captures|Animated]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
====Pictures of unidentified origin====&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t know which episodes these are from - feel free to tag them with {{tl|MFcap}} or {{tl|Energoncap}} if you know!&lt;br /&gt;
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Image:Diver suiton.jpg|Diver from Masterforce&lt;br /&gt;
Image:EnergonGeneric.jpg|Some dude from Energon&lt;br /&gt;
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===Useful URLs===&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.bot-shots.com/check_list.php Bot Shots bios]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heatwave GB==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, abates. I was going to change Heatwave&#039;s GoBox to something I made from the Rescue Bots &#039;&#039;Memory&#039;&#039; game cards...&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://obscuretf.com/GB-RBHeatwave2.jpg]&lt;br /&gt;
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... but I saw that you made the original GoBox, so I thought I&#039;d get your opinion on it first. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] ([[User talk:Monzo|talk]]) 11:39, 17 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sure, go for it! I&#039;ll make sure the version that appears on other sites updates. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:57, 17 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Could you fix this? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m regularising the Marvel UK cover filenames, but I accidentally just moved the #101 cover to [[:File:MarvelUK-102.jpg]]. Could you move it to [[:File:MarvelUK-101.jpg]] and delete the redirect so I can move the actual #102 cover there, please? Ta. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 19:17, 27 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:All done! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:24, 27 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hi ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello, thanks for the notice. I just fixed that up. ;-D --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 05:05, 4 February 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Awesome, thanks! :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 05:42, 4 February 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== About three users... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t want to sound overly cautious and paranoid, but it&#039;s bothered me for a while: Is it possible that [[Special:Contributions/Emperor_of_Terror_Scorponok|these]] [[Special:Contributions/Unicron_The_Chaos_Bringer|three]] [[Special:Contributions/Optimus_Prime_The_Savoir|users]] are one and the same? I mean, they feature similar styles of contributions, not to mention the names. Just putting this out there... --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 03:51, 29 March 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I did a checkuser and... yep, they&#039;re one and the same, as far as I can tell. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 04:01, 29 March 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s another one: Are these [[User:Noerk|two]] [[User:KirbyForce1|guys]] the same? I hope not... --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 18:02, 7 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I was wondering this myself a while ago. That the exact fan-art on Noerk&#039;s userpage can be found on KirbyForce1&#039;s deviantART page is kind of damning, unless Noerk was lying about the art being his. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 18:07, 7 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Naw, pretty sure they&#039;re different people. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:22, 7 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::PHEW! Thank goodness! --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 18:24, 7 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Could [[User:Ratchet0202]] be perma-banned [[User:Ironhide0202]]? Very similar names, very similar editing patterns. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 09:15, 11 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yep, it looks like! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 17:07, 11 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, abates, could you do another one? [[User:Energizer]] and [[User:SirSpoonwave]] have very similar posting habits, and it&#039;s making me suspicious.[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 22:53, 21 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:SirSpoonwave has not edited in a year and a half so any checkuser data is expired. In any case, it&#039;s not like either of them is a problem user. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 23:26, 21 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, could you run checkusers on [[User:Bruticus-Maxwell]] and [[User:JaAm-On-Toast]]? They seem likely candidates for KirbyForce sockpuppets... Cheers. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 17:26, 22 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Okay, yeah, they were KirbyForce. Just noticed [[User:SlimerJoel]] from a few days ago, though... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 17:54, 22 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Checkuser on SlimerJoel was inconclusive, unfortunately! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:46, 22 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Can you check [[User:Thunderstrike57]]? His/her edit to [[Drift (ROTF)]] makes me suspect KirbyForce again. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 07:11, 23 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Nope, doesn&#039;t look like that&#039;s him. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:37, 23 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Could you check this new Septesson guy? I think he&#039;s Norek. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 16:24, 28 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, I admit that perhaps I went a little overboard with the Interstellar Challenge course (as I admit of being afraid of too-small articles), thanks for refining it a bit.&lt;br /&gt;
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Double thanks for helping refine my articles and images :-) {{unsigned|Go(toby070)Bots}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:No problem! BTW, you should sign talk page comments by using &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; (or by using the squiggly signature button in the toolbar over the edit window. It&#039;s the one second from the right). --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 21:58, 4 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Add the Dinobots ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since you&#039;re in charge of the [[Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|Age of Extinction]] page, why aren&#039;t the other Dinobots Slug, Slash, and Scorn aren&#039;t in the chart full of characters? I made their pages if you haven&#039;t noticed. Can you please add the Dinobots? [[User:Movie09|Movie09]] ([[User talk:Movie09|talk]]) 09:05, 11 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:They&#039;re not on there because as far as I know, we haven&#039;t seen official confirmation they&#039;re in the movie. We&#039;ve only seen Grimlock and Strafe in trailers so far, and none of the Dinobots were in the list of voice actors revealed the other day. I&#039;m not in charge of the AOE page, but as it was locked down so only admins could edit it, I was trying to keep it as up to date as I could. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 17:03, 11 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Really sorry to use you as &#039;the checkuser guy&#039; again, but I rather suspect that [[User:AdrenntheMan]] might be [[User:OptimusPrime12]]/[[User:MetroPlex71]], not least because OptimusPrime12&#039;s email address began with &#039;Adrenn&#039;. Cheers. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 14:57, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yup! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:03, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Okay, this might just me being paranoid, but could you check [[User:JangoPrime365]] too? He registered an hour after Adrenntheman was blocked, his MO is similar, and he uploaded [[:File:Prime gets shotAOE.jpg]], which is identical in dimensions, size and metadata to [[:File:Optimus gets shot AOE.jpg]], uploaded by MetroPlex71... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 18:52, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Same useragent string plus the timing makes me think you&#039;re right. Something else that doesn&#039;t add up is that he claims on his talk page to be in Australia, but his IP address indicates he&#039;s editing from Austria. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:24, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::[http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/archive/2/2a/20140713004842%21Dreadwing_Rising_Storm_adaption.jpg *cough*] [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 20:58, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why are you guys so suspicious about me? Am I a wanted hacker or something. I was searching for administrators so I can know more about them, abates/you came first. I decided to read your page and I found this. I thought to myself, &amp;quot; Am I being accused that I&#039;m someone else?&amp;quot;. I didn&#039;t know what mo was so I looked it up. Now I know. I decided to mind my own business and upload a file of dreadwing. I didn&#039;t crop it right so it showed a couple of pages. So what? . I know how you guys are feeling. You guys don&#039;t trust because I&#039;m  the &amp;quot;New Guy&amp;quot;. Same thing happened on wookiepedia. Everyone was suspicious at me because they think I&#039;m dangerous or something, Get this, I&#039;m not. I&#039;m just new and I&#039;m trying to enjoy myself in here. So can you guys stop being paranoid and give me a boost up on this wiki? &lt;br /&gt;
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If you guys still don&#039;t trust me, feel free to kick me or remove out of this website, I&#039;ll understand.&lt;br /&gt;
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:You are not being suspected because you&#039;re a &amp;quot;new guy&amp;quot;, you are being suspected because your behavior is somewhat similar to a user who&#039;s been banned. In many wikis, it&#039;s not uncommon for a banned user to create a new account to try and bypass a ban, and our policy for ban evasion is &#039;&#039;always&#039;&#039; a permanent ban for every account the user has and will make. The sad part is that there are many instances when the ban is temporary, and the user could have simply waited for it to pass, rather than take the chance and be permanently banned. Just giving out the facts. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 02:26, 13 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I understand but  guys, don&#039;t accuse me of being someone else. I know the rules about the &amp;quot;only one account per person&amp;quot;. I don&#039;t create multiple accounts because I know it results into a ban. Being honest, I&#039;m one of the shy types. I don&#039;t want to get that much of attention from a group of people. It starts to make me uncomfortable and paranoid. So why accuse a new-timer rather than giving me tips and a head start on this wiki? .&lt;br /&gt;
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The captions were not informative as to what the content of the picture was. Image captions are meant to put an image into context of the page. The caption on the images I edited did not serve this purpose. I&#039;ve been here in the past and it is incredibly off putting to see image captions with jokes rather than information. It does not inspire confidence even if the content of the page is good. It makes it hard to take the site seriously as a information source, which is what all wiki based site really are.&lt;br /&gt;
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While I can understand the idea of trying to be light and a little humorous, I know that at least more than a few people find this incredibly off putting and unprofessional, which hurt&#039;s a site&#039;s like this ability to attract people to it. While the user&#039;s here may think it&#039;s funny, the average person who comes here will not appreciate it the same way, or may not understand the context of the joke, it can ruin the first impression make it so people may not come back. A large portion of people who come to wiki based sites are not hard core fans, but the casual viewer or someone who has a passing interest in the franchise, or is trying to get more information on something they may be missing context on. They aren&#039;t looking for jokes, they just want information. Another thing Humor is HIGHLY subjective to the individual, putting a joke on the main page of an article meant to be view by the general population in general is not a good idea, given that a lot of people won&#039;t even think it&#039;s funny, and if they they don&#039;t think it&#039;s funny, then they are probably just gonna think it&#039;s stupid, and that gives a bad impression of the site.&lt;br /&gt;
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But the biggest reason I&#039;m doing it is that the tone of image captions seems to be spilling over into actual article content. Image captioning is one thing, but the content of the article proper should only be factual information.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;d also like to note that at the time I edited the captions, I didn&#039;t not actually know the site made it a policy to have humorous captions, just so you know that I wasn&#039;t trying to make a point and be a menace or anything, everything I do is in an attempt to improve the quality of the site. --[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 16:21, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can I ask who are the Admin&#039;s here, for future reference?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:45, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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First, I would like to thank you for the list of Admins, it&#039;s always helpful to know who is in charge.&lt;br /&gt;
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Second, I don&#039;t want to be trouble maker, but I do feel the need to express my point of view on the subject in it&#039;s entirety. I just ask you let me say my piece, and If I if you don&#039;t agree with my views, that is fine, I won&#039;t push the issue after I&#039;ve made all my feeling known, but I do as that you listen and consider what I say. I have been a regular editor of a number of wiki based sites for years and have a good deal of experience on what works with a these sites and what doesn&#039;t, in general at least.&lt;br /&gt;
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First thing is that while the current community may like how it is, this in general makes it harder for a wiki to grow as a community, as you have become specialized to appeal larger base. While you may of noticed other wiki&#039;s using a similar type of system, that does not, by it&#039;s nature mean it&#039;s a good thing. Some wiki&#039;s are new and may only be copying the format of a larger more established site, like this one, but many more follow the more standard format. The site you should really be taking notes from are the largest and most successful one, as they are the ones that have manged to attract the most users to edit them and work on them, and almost all of the one&#039;s I&#039;ve seen that get that large follow a similar format to Wikipedia. While a more humor based system will appeal to some people, history shows that the more traditional format seems to attract more people.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, while I don&#039;t doubt that you have seen people in favor of this format, I feel like if you spread the question beyond the confines of this sites community, I do feel that the the number of people in favor of this would drop, as it is not the preferred format on most wiki based sites. This fact would indicate that it&#039;s not really popular in the larger online community.&lt;br /&gt;
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The other things, which I have mentioned before, if humor is highly subjective. I can personally say I do not find any of the captions I&#039;ve read funny, but I know I can&#039;t use that as a base for everyone else, but it shows an example of the intended idea of having something &amp;quot;funny&amp;quot;, can actually hurt the site. In real life, if you tell a joke, and it bombs, you normally end up embarrassing yourself, and I know that in my case it usually makes for a fairly awkward situation. Apply this to a wiki page, while you don&#039;t have the same embarrassed situation, it looks bad for the site as a whole. The more casual fan who just stop by maybe to look up an episodes list, or maybe needs a reference picture for something, reads one of these captions. Maybe they think it&#039;s funny, but the more likely response is confusion and not understanding why it&#039;s the way it is. If they don&#039;t know that the intention is a joke, it can result in confusion, or result in turning someone off to possibly joining the community.&lt;br /&gt;
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But here&#039;s one of the two my biggest issue in this situation. I&#039;d be able to take some humor based captions, but the humor based captions seem to be the rule rather than exception. Now I like to laugh as much as the next guy, but I do think that if you really want to keep some humor in the articles, it would work better in smaller portions. I think of it like hanging out with a guy who just doesn&#039;t know when to stop making jokes, yeah he&#039;s funny once in a while, but if everything out of his mouth is some kind of joke, it get&#039;s annoying. That&#039;s how it feels when I read pages, almost every image I see has some kind of joke on it, if it&#039;s got anything at all. I feel that if this how it&#039;s going to be, and I know think that it will be for a long time, that it should be done in moderation. As it stands right now, it kinda feels like that it keeps coming at you, while not fully providing context of the picture, which is my other biggest point.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some picture need to put in context. Take the page of [[Alexis Thi Dang]], near the end of the Armada section, their is a picture of her crying after Starscream died. Now, the caption reads &amp;quot;They told me mullets were making a comeback. They lied!&amp;quot;, not only does it sorta take the intended emotional impact of the scene out, but the image doesn&#039;t make sense to someone who hasn&#039;t seen the episode, or hasn&#039;t seen it in a long time. In general, this is something that needs to be addressed, some picture need to have context to make sense in the page. The Images real purpose to to give the reader a better insight into the articles content, they should compliment each other to give a better view what is being described in the article, and putting a joke caption in hurts or even robs it of the ability to do so, especially if the the person has not actually seen/read the materiel in question, it could be a picture of anything and any caption and ultimately have the same affect.&lt;br /&gt;
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So in conclusion, I don&#039;t think that the &amp;quot;humor&amp;quot; aspect will change in the near future. But I really do think it needs to be toned down at least and let being and informative site be at the for front of what the site is about. Let images have informative caption when necessary, and if people want to have their little jokes, fine, but I think the idea of having fun may of gone to far with the image captions and content and context is starting to suffer.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;d appreciate it if my opinion was genuinely considered, but even if it&#039;s not, I still felt the need to voice my opinion on the matter, and I hope you don&#039;t take any of this as a personal insult or attack, it&#039;s not intended to be.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 20:48, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes they could, this is true, but it&#039;s not truly efficient. If I&#039;m reading one of my text a books for example and their is a diagram or image of an individual, I want the caption to be put in the context and explain what it&#039;s purpose is for being on the page so I can look at it on the same page I&#039;m reading the relevant information on it. I don&#039;t want to have to look it up some where else to find out it&#039;s context.&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t know how big the community on here is, but the Transformer fan base is much larger than what is represented here. I feel like you (by you, I mean the community in general) have unintentionally made the site less appealing to other fans of the series. I know myself and more than a few of my friends have been put off by the captioning here. The most common thing I&#039;ve heard is it does not make them confident they can trust in the information given when the pages are presented in such a manor.That is one of the worst thing for a wiki based site, as the intention is present information, if people get a bad first impression, then they probably aren&#039;t going to come back.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:48, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:We have tens of thousands of people who edit on here. Almost every fan site out there relies on us as a source. The Legends cards copy our articles bios for their cards. Freaking Hasbro invites us every year to Toy Fair. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 22:04, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: First do real work on this website.  Real work.  Add real content.  For, like, months.  Maybe years.  THEN maybe tell us how to totally change our whole wiki forever because of what you and your friends have decided amongst yourselves and runs contrary to our entire mission statement.  Do not bring up this subject again until then.  End of discussion.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 22:07, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This message is addresed to It&#039;sWalky&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll will note that It&#039;sWalky, my comment after yours was already being typed and was done before your placed your comment, so it was not my intention to disregard your comment. I got the edit conflict not, but by nature I type longer comments into a word doucounet and copy in paste it in to make sure if somthing like that happens I still have most if not all the meterial I typed.&lt;br /&gt;
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I may be new here, but I&#039;ve edited wiki and wiki based sites for years, as well as being a life long fan of franchise. Just because I&#039;m new here doesn&#039;t mean that my views should be dismissed right off the back. I&#039;d also point out that it wasn&#039;t &amp;quot;me and my friends deciding among ourselves&amp;quot; I was solely referring to, while I have discussed this with my friends, I&#039;ve also discussed it with other&#039;s on other wikis, even a couple of people I out right do not get along with, but agreed on this topic.&lt;br /&gt;
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I will say this, you do not have to get cross with me. I voiced my opinion, which I believe is allowed. You shouldn&#039;t be threatened by my opinions, maybe take what I have to say, considered some of my points, and If you don&#039;t agree with me, you can present the response in a formal, less aggressive way. I only wish to help improve the quality of the site, and help it expanded into a larger community, I&#039;m sorry if you took this the wrong way, I just tend to not give short responses in general, I give short essays responses. I&#039;ve been told in the past this can come off as pushy or aggressive, but it&#039;s not my intent, it&#039;s just how I&#039;m wired to be meticulous in responses and point of view. &lt;br /&gt;
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When I joined I got the standard welcome message and it said &amp;quot;Captions - The funny stays/the funny is not the main goal here.&amp;quot;, I took this to mean that while he have some humor, it wasn&#039;t the main idea, which I feel it has become.&lt;br /&gt;
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I am truly sorry if I&#039;ve offended anyone, I&#039;m here for the same reason as everyone else, because I love this franchise, and I do think for the most part your content is excellent, it&#039;s just this one thing I wanted to help improve. The community has done a lot, and does have an impressive user count (13850 users have registered sense June 2008, yes I counted, that&#039;s another one of those personality quirks I have).&lt;br /&gt;
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My suggestions were not an insult or meant as such, only suggestions to help improve artical content and maybe help the wiki appeal to a broader demographic.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll end on the apology for how this was taken, but not apologize my views, they are mine and I&#039;m entitled to them, but so is everyone here, and if this is how they want it, then I&#039;ll leave it alone for now.&lt;br /&gt;
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I hope we can be mature about this, leave any hard feeling behind and move on.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Dude, stop. English names are not transferred across different characters. Big Convoy is not Big Prime. [[Gren]] is not Hook. Gaia Guardian is not Gaia Defensor, etc. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 21:50, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Big Convoy has never been named in English, Gren&#039;s never been named as that, and Gaia Guardian doesn&#039;t have an English name. Those examples don&#039;t work at all. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 21:55, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You are severely missing the point. The Kre-O character has no name, English or otherwise. All we have is the assumed intent of the writer (so, &amp;quot;Alexa&amp;quot;). What applies to the original character does not automatically apply to homages, as I&#039;ve shown with my examples.&lt;br /&gt;
::And, frankly, if you had an issue, a better method of action would have been discussing rather than automatically reverting the preference of the person taking the time to make those pages! [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 22:03, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Mimi has a point. using the Alexis/Alexa Kre-o as an  example; this wiki typically uses the Japanese name unless/until and  English name is made. So, while the Kre-O character  might be based  off Alexis from Armada, we must call her what the comic calls her. And since the comic calls her nothing, author intent is all we have to go on. I say stick with Alexa but keep the reference to  Alexis in the notes/[[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 22:27, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Eh. Whatever, I don&#039;t even know all that much about the Japanese names, so I&#039;m not the best one to ask about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 16:59, 15 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Give me a mistake in the paragraph please.[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Please don&#039;t say that being a woman is an insult.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:32, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For clarification, I think [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Waspinator_(BW)&amp;amp;curid=335&amp;amp;diff=828439&amp;amp;oldid=827733&amp;amp;rcid=666524 Supernova222] was the one who said it first. Just letting that out there. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 22:48, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I wasn&#039;t trying to sir. Inkblot is correct. I just undid my revision cause I wasn&#039;t sure if it was correct or not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:37, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:(sometimes I should just sit down and shut up.) [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:40, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You need to settle down just a little bit. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:34, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sorry, sir. I just got a bit too angry.[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 19:38, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please explain why you revert everything I contribute on this wiki?! - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 15:53, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The Ravage note was unessasary. The Team Prime image was fine, though you might want to move it to the episode section. Also, good job on editing the Soundwave ROTF page, the rape thing is one of the few PG-13 level things that is not accepted here. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 15:56, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Thanks. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 16:01, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Could you give me an example of a mistake in the paragraph in the AOE page? I checked it on EVERY grammar,punctuation and spell checker page to fix it. No problems... I even contacted my language arts teacher. No problem in the paragraph. It&#039;s getting a little bit fishy....[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Why did you remove my talk on the Knock Out page? I thought the talk pages were for disscussing changes? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:13, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re saying that being gay is a bad thing, and that is not acceptable. Quit it right now. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:15, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sorry, but being gay really is a bad thing, the Bible says so. But if the wiki community doesn&#039;t want it on there I won&#039;t add it again, okay? :) - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:19, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, it&#039;s not a bad thing. If you ever add that again, you will get into some major trouble. Now don&#039;t add it again. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:21, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Sorry, I won&#039;t add it again. But plz don&#039;t be so cross, I didn&#039;t know it was against the rules I&#039;m new here. what exactly do not mean &amp;quot;major trouble? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:24, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Being banned. Saying stuff like that is absolutely against the rules. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:29, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Okay, it&#039;s completely understood. :) But if I say &amp;quot;Bank robbers stink&amp;quot; is that okay? (Just thought I&#039;d better ask so I don&#039;t violate any more rules, LOL, not off to a very good start, am I? :))BTW, you got a YouTube channel friend? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:33, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::That is acceptable. And no, I don&#039;t. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:36, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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For the second time, chill. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:51, 5 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for reverting my edit.  i really thought those were preliminary names for the BW characters!  --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:32, 25 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moving pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You realise that when you move pages, as you&#039;ve been doing when Kre-O cameos show up without even making a &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[x (Kre-O)]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; page, you&#039;re meant to fix the links to point to the new page, yes? [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Rattrap]] alone shows 333 &#039;&#039;mainspace&#039;&#039; links! (There&#039;s a reason for the bolded &amp;quot;Warning! This can be a drastic and unexpected change for a popular page; please be sure you understand the consequences of this before proceeding.&amp;quot; text!). - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 22:49, 24 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why did you revert my optimus prime edit and the edit someone else did? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:08, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For main images we use the first body or the body the characters had the most. Optimus Prime&#039;s appeared more in his body from the first three movies than the one from AOE, so we&#039;re sticking with the image we already had. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:11, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Would it not make sense to have a up to date image? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:16, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s not how it works. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:17, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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But shouldn&#039;t it be? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It would inform those not aware of the change, make the wiki seem up to date and would be a accurate representation of the character as he is now. --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:24, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Look, I didn&#039;t make the rules. You&#039;re going to have to ask someone like Itswalky, abates, or M Sipher about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:27, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Even then that image he uploaded is no good. Prime is smooshed in the center with all that wasted space on the big OPTIMUS PRIME in the background. We need a good clear shot of the character. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 19:14, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Vigilant Town ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Youtube version is actually edited in the last scene, explaining the Decepticon insignia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtEwQrlEAI4&lt;br /&gt;
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But the Hub network released this episode on their website, and most likely that&#039;s the original non-edited episode. http://www.hubnetwork.com/shows/transformers-rescue-bots/videos/full-episode-the-island-of-misfit-tech-episode-13-season-2&lt;br /&gt;
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Please check the differences before reverting. [[User:Klink|Klink]] ([[User talk:Klink|talk]]) 23:46, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wow, that Decepticon sigil was so blatantly edited in by someone else. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 23:57, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Eh. I hadn&#039;t seen the episode, and I&#039;d trusted abates judgement more than the newbie. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:59, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tenses==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, just a quick reminder that fiction sections need to be in the past tense. Thanks! [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 14:50, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, sorry about that. I&#039;ll remember next time! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:04, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Helloooo==&lt;br /&gt;
Hihi, I didn&#039;t realize there were any other translady editors of the TFWiki. Hello! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 19:06, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hello there! One of our admins is too, [[User:FortMax]]. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:39, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Embarrassing fact- she follows me on twitter, but I forgot she was an admin here, haha. Anyway, nice talkin to you, see you round the wiki! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 00:06, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Nice talking to you, too! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 11:59, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Response==&lt;br /&gt;
What are you specifically talking about.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The removal of the Scorn caption and comments you left on abates and Jalaguy&#039;s pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 17:35, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Scorn&#039;s caption does not come off as a joke, but at any rate, The Picture of Scorn is a concept art, and should be noted as such, given that concept art often does not share the same appearance of the final product. I&#039;m not necessarily opposed to humor by nature, but it shouldn&#039;t get in the way of information, on and information based site.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:56, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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EDIT:For future reference, when responding to a message, please leave it on the talk page of the person you are speaking to so they get a notification message.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, it really shouldn&#039;t. And no, that&#039;s not how it works either. You have to refresh talk pages and check recent changes to see if someone&#039;s updated a talk page. Don&#039;t put responses to things on your talk page to other people&#039;s talk pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:00, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why shouldn&#039;t it? It&#039;s the exact type of picture that needs context to explain it, official imaging that is altered or not representative of the final product.&lt;br /&gt;
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And, for the most part in my experience, wiki&#039;s use the method of response I use, as it guarantee&#039;s the user get&#039;s the message. Doing it the other way can lead to a number of complication, like the user not getting the message, or information being lost in communication.&lt;br /&gt;
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Final quick question, Are you an Admin or Mod?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:10, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, if they want to know what it is, they can just look at the description on the image itself. Stop trying to make the wiki work the wayt you want it to.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And I&#039;m not sure where you get that idea from. You&#039;re going to get the message, no matter what, Maybe it works that way at Wikia, but not here.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And no, I&#039;m not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:15, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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As you are not an Admin, I would like to ask you not to discuss this with me, as it&#039;s not really your place to. While I do appreciate the desire to look after a wiki that you contribute to, unless you are of a position of authority, trying to enforce any rule or policy will not result in desirable results, especially as the Admin&#039;s are the one who are really the one&#039;s to determine if a policy is being broken or not, and a standard user does not necessarily have the same ability to truly recognize this, and even if they do, they don&#039;t have the authority to do anything about it. For future references, if you think someone is breaking a policy or vandalizing pages, contact an Admin or site Mod, rather than taking matter&#039;s into your own hands, as this often does little to help the situation or can even make it worse.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:30, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:......It&#039;s a public forum. Just because I&#039;m not a moderator doesn&#039;t mean I shouldn&#039;t tell you that you&#039;re not doing what&#039;s right and ask you to stop. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:And even then, why wouldn&#039;t I know how to interpret the rules? The rules are stated outright among various pages. This isn&#039;t some message board. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:51, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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In theory, you are right, but in practice that rarely works. If the user is a true vandal, just messing up the page for kicks, it won&#039;t have achieved anything, and may in fact motivate said vandal to keep it up. If it&#039;s just another user, then you run into a several other problems. You may not truly understand the full meaning of policy&#039;s, or if they are truly being violated, especially if it&#039;s a gray type of situation. In those situation, you may just achieve amnesty with a new user who was trying to help. Many people do not appreciate being told what to do by a person in a non-authoritative position, as you are essentially the same &amp;quot;rank&amp;quot; as them, you don&#039;t truly have the authority to make any real demands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most Admins are Admins for a reason, normally they are excellent editors but also, more importantly, they have excellent crisis situation skills and know how to handle problems users, or users who may simply of made a mistake. At most, a person in a non-authoritative position should ever directly do in a situation where they think someone is breaking policies, is politely inform them of the site policies, and if the situation continues, notify an Admin and let them handle it, as there is little else of use you can actually do.&lt;br /&gt;
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As to misinterpreting the rule, it&#039;s easy to do, as not every situation fit&#039;s into the set rules perfectly, many situation have grey aspects to them and are not always easily resolved by a set forth rule, and need some one in a position of authority to properly resolve the situation. --[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:TFWiki doesn&#039;t have a massive problem with non-admin users giving advice to new users if it&#039;s basic stuff like &#039;please don&#039;t remove captions/add scores of new captions&#039;. Admins aren&#039;t always around, and sometimes new users just need pointing to our policy pages. That being said, Escargon, you can sometimes be a bit quick to jump down people&#039;s throats over stuff like this. Please try and remain calm and courteous when engaging with other users. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 19:01, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Alright. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:04, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well how many Transformers Wiki&#039;s are their?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:29, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:A couple. But we&#039;re the original one. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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That sort of takes the wind out of that arguments sails.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:43, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, it doesn&#039;t. We&#039;ve been around since 2006. We&#039;re far more succesful than any other attempt at making a wiki for TF. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:47, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Do you understand why I said it takes the wind out of the argument?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:49, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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In response to comment on abates page&lt;br /&gt;
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While those are notable achivements, I&#039;ve been part of much smaller wiki&#039;s and wed communitys who can make similar claims, being invited to events and having content copied for outside use. Any communit of of fair size can recize and invint to big events and copying of content, if that is the case, unfortuently happens alot, many people take the easiest way out and instead of using their own  ideas, take them from other sources.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for your estimated user count, as it stands now from 2008 to now, about 13000 users have registered, so a little over 10000, rather than tens of thousands. Now grand majority of those who have registered have not bothered to make a user page, indicating a &amp;quot;fly by night&amp;quot; user who only made a hand full of edits before dropping off, and didn&#039;t stick around. I don&#039;t know the amount of users who activly take part on the site, but it wouldn&#039;t be anywhere near tens of thousands.&lt;br /&gt;
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But I&#039;d still like a response to my early question, do you know why I said it takes the winds out of that particular arguments sails? I&#039;d like to know if you know what I meant, and if so why you think I was wrong.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 23:07, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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==To-Do List==&lt;br /&gt;
===Operation: Screen Captures===&lt;br /&gt;
Screen cap (re)tagging:&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Generation 1 screen captures|G1]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:The Headmasters screen captures|Headmasters]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;/[[:Category:Super-God Masterforce screen captures|Masterforce]]/&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Victory screen captures|Victory]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;/&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Zone screen captures|Zone]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Beast Wars screen captures|Beast Wars]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;/&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Beast Machines screen captures|Beast Machines]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Robots in Disguise screen captures|Robots in Disguise]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Armada screen captures|Armada]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;/[[:Category:Energon screen captures|Energon]]/&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Cybertron screen captures|Cybertron]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Animated screen captures|Animated]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
====Pictures of unidentified origin====&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t know which episodes these are from - feel free to tag them with {{tl|MFcap}} or {{tl|Energoncap}} if you know!&lt;br /&gt;
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Image:Diver suiton.jpg|Diver from Masterforce&lt;br /&gt;
Image:EnergonGeneric.jpg|Some dude from Energon&lt;br /&gt;
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===Useful URLs===&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.bot-shots.com/check_list.php Bot Shots bios]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heatwave GB==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, abates. I was going to change Heatwave&#039;s GoBox to something I made from the Rescue Bots &#039;&#039;Memory&#039;&#039; game cards...&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://obscuretf.com/GB-RBHeatwave2.jpg]&lt;br /&gt;
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... but I saw that you made the original GoBox, so I thought I&#039;d get your opinion on it first. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] ([[User talk:Monzo|talk]]) 11:39, 17 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sure, go for it! I&#039;ll make sure the version that appears on other sites updates. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:57, 17 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Could you fix this? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m regularising the Marvel UK cover filenames, but I accidentally just moved the #101 cover to [[:File:MarvelUK-102.jpg]]. Could you move it to [[:File:MarvelUK-101.jpg]] and delete the redirect so I can move the actual #102 cover there, please? Ta. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 19:17, 27 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:All done! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:24, 27 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hi ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello, thanks for the notice. I just fixed that up. ;-D --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 05:05, 4 February 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Awesome, thanks! :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 05:42, 4 February 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== About three users... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t want to sound overly cautious and paranoid, but it&#039;s bothered me for a while: Is it possible that [[Special:Contributions/Emperor_of_Terror_Scorponok|these]] [[Special:Contributions/Unicron_The_Chaos_Bringer|three]] [[Special:Contributions/Optimus_Prime_The_Savoir|users]] are one and the same? I mean, they feature similar styles of contributions, not to mention the names. Just putting this out there... --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 03:51, 29 March 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I did a checkuser and... yep, they&#039;re one and the same, as far as I can tell. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 04:01, 29 March 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s another one: Are these [[User:Noerk|two]] [[User:KirbyForce1|guys]] the same? I hope not... --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 18:02, 7 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I was wondering this myself a while ago. That the exact fan-art on Noerk&#039;s userpage can be found on KirbyForce1&#039;s deviantART page is kind of damning, unless Noerk was lying about the art being his. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 18:07, 7 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Naw, pretty sure they&#039;re different people. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:22, 7 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::PHEW! Thank goodness! --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 18:24, 7 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Could [[User:Ratchet0202]] be perma-banned [[User:Ironhide0202]]? Very similar names, very similar editing patterns. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 09:15, 11 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yep, it looks like! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 17:07, 11 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, abates, could you do another one? [[User:Energizer]] and [[User:SirSpoonwave]] have very similar posting habits, and it&#039;s making me suspicious.[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 22:53, 21 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:SirSpoonwave has not edited in a year and a half so any checkuser data is expired. In any case, it&#039;s not like either of them is a problem user. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 23:26, 21 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, could you run checkusers on [[User:Bruticus-Maxwell]] and [[User:JaAm-On-Toast]]? They seem likely candidates for KirbyForce sockpuppets... Cheers. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 17:26, 22 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Okay, yeah, they were KirbyForce. Just noticed [[User:SlimerJoel]] from a few days ago, though... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 17:54, 22 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Checkuser on SlimerJoel was inconclusive, unfortunately! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:46, 22 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Can you check [[User:Thunderstrike57]]? His/her edit to [[Drift (ROTF)]] makes me suspect KirbyForce again. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 07:11, 23 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Nope, doesn&#039;t look like that&#039;s him. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:37, 23 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Could you check this new Septesson guy? I think he&#039;s Norek. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 16:24, 28 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, I admit that perhaps I went a little overboard with the Interstellar Challenge course (as I admit of being afraid of too-small articles), thanks for refining it a bit.&lt;br /&gt;
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Double thanks for helping refine my articles and images :-) {{unsigned|Go(toby070)Bots}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:No problem! BTW, you should sign talk page comments by using &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; (or by using the squiggly signature button in the toolbar over the edit window. It&#039;s the one second from the right). --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 21:58, 4 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Add the Dinobots ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since you&#039;re in charge of the [[Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|Age of Extinction]] page, why aren&#039;t the other Dinobots Slug, Slash, and Scorn aren&#039;t in the chart full of characters? I made their pages if you haven&#039;t noticed. Can you please add the Dinobots? [[User:Movie09|Movie09]] ([[User talk:Movie09|talk]]) 09:05, 11 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:They&#039;re not on there because as far as I know, we haven&#039;t seen official confirmation they&#039;re in the movie. We&#039;ve only seen Grimlock and Strafe in trailers so far, and none of the Dinobots were in the list of voice actors revealed the other day. I&#039;m not in charge of the AOE page, but as it was locked down so only admins could edit it, I was trying to keep it as up to date as I could. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 17:03, 11 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Checkuser==&lt;br /&gt;
Really sorry to use you as &#039;the checkuser guy&#039; again, but I rather suspect that [[User:AdrenntheMan]] might be [[User:OptimusPrime12]]/[[User:MetroPlex71]], not least because OptimusPrime12&#039;s email address began with &#039;Adrenn&#039;. Cheers. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 14:57, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yup! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:03, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Okay, this might just me being paranoid, but could you check [[User:JangoPrime365]] too? He registered an hour after Adrenntheman was blocked, his MO is similar, and he uploaded [[:File:Prime gets shotAOE.jpg]], which is identical in dimensions, size and metadata to [[:File:Optimus gets shot AOE.jpg]], uploaded by MetroPlex71... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 18:52, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Same useragent string plus the timing makes me think you&#039;re right. Something else that doesn&#039;t add up is that he claims on his talk page to be in Australia, but his IP address indicates he&#039;s editing from Austria. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:24, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::[http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/archive/2/2a/20140713004842%21Dreadwing_Rising_Storm_adaption.jpg *cough*] [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 20:58, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why are you guys so suspicious about me? Am I a wanted hacker or something. I was searching for administrators so I can know more about them, abates/you came first. I decided to read your page and I found this. I thought to myself, &amp;quot; Am I being accused that I&#039;m someone else?&amp;quot;. I didn&#039;t know what mo was so I looked it up. Now I know. I decided to mind my own business and upload a file of dreadwing. I didn&#039;t crop it right so it showed a couple of pages. So what? . I know how you guys are feeling. You guys don&#039;t trust because I&#039;m  the &amp;quot;New Guy&amp;quot;. Same thing happened on wookiepedia. Everyone was suspicious at me because they think I&#039;m dangerous or something, Get this, I&#039;m not. I&#039;m just new and I&#039;m trying to enjoy myself in here. So can you guys stop being paranoid and give me a boost up on this wiki? &lt;br /&gt;
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If you guys still don&#039;t trust me, feel free to kick me or remove out of this website, I&#039;ll understand.&lt;br /&gt;
:JangoPrime365&lt;br /&gt;
:You are not being suspected because you&#039;re a &amp;quot;new guy&amp;quot;, you are being suspected because your behavior is somewhat similar to a user who&#039;s been banned. In many wikis, it&#039;s not uncommon for a banned user to create a new account to try and bypass a ban, and our policy for ban evasion is &#039;&#039;always&#039;&#039; a permanent ban for every account the user has and will make. The sad part is that there are many instances when the ban is temporary, and the user could have simply waited for it to pass, rather than take the chance and be permanently banned. Just giving out the facts. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 02:26, 13 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I understand but  guys, don&#039;t accuse me of being someone else. I know the rules about the &amp;quot;only one account per person&amp;quot;. I don&#039;t create multiple accounts because I know it results into a ban. Being honest, I&#039;m one of the shy types. I don&#039;t want to get that much of attention from a group of people. It starts to make me uncomfortable and paranoid. So why accuse a new-timer rather than giving me tips and a head start on this wiki? .&lt;br /&gt;
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The captions were not informative as to what the content of the picture was. Image captions are meant to put an image into context of the page. The caption on the images I edited did not serve this purpose. I&#039;ve been here in the past and it is incredibly off putting to see image captions with jokes rather than information. It does not inspire confidence even if the content of the page is good. It makes it hard to take the site seriously as a information source, which is what all wiki based site really are.&lt;br /&gt;
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While I can understand the idea of trying to be light and a little humorous, I know that at least more than a few people find this incredibly off putting and unprofessional, which hurt&#039;s a site&#039;s like this ability to attract people to it. While the user&#039;s here may think it&#039;s funny, the average person who comes here will not appreciate it the same way, or may not understand the context of the joke, it can ruin the first impression make it so people may not come back. A large portion of people who come to wiki based sites are not hard core fans, but the casual viewer or someone who has a passing interest in the franchise, or is trying to get more information on something they may be missing context on. They aren&#039;t looking for jokes, they just want information. Another thing Humor is HIGHLY subjective to the individual, putting a joke on the main page of an article meant to be view by the general population in general is not a good idea, given that a lot of people won&#039;t even think it&#039;s funny, and if they they don&#039;t think it&#039;s funny, then they are probably just gonna think it&#039;s stupid, and that gives a bad impression of the site.&lt;br /&gt;
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But the biggest reason I&#039;m doing it is that the tone of image captions seems to be spilling over into actual article content. Image captioning is one thing, but the content of the article proper should only be factual information.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;d also like to note that at the time I edited the captions, I didn&#039;t not actually know the site made it a policy to have humorous captions, just so you know that I wasn&#039;t trying to make a point and be a menace or anything, everything I do is in an attempt to improve the quality of the site. --[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 16:21, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can I ask who are the Admin&#039;s here, for future reference?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:45, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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First, I would like to thank you for the list of Admins, it&#039;s always helpful to know who is in charge.&lt;br /&gt;
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Second, I don&#039;t want to be trouble maker, but I do feel the need to express my point of view on the subject in it&#039;s entirety. I just ask you let me say my piece, and If I if you don&#039;t agree with my views, that is fine, I won&#039;t push the issue after I&#039;ve made all my feeling known, but I do as that you listen and consider what I say. I have been a regular editor of a number of wiki based sites for years and have a good deal of experience on what works with a these sites and what doesn&#039;t, in general at least.&lt;br /&gt;
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First thing is that while the current community may like how it is, this in general makes it harder for a wiki to grow as a community, as you have become specialized to appeal larger base. While you may of noticed other wiki&#039;s using a similar type of system, that does not, by it&#039;s nature mean it&#039;s a good thing. Some wiki&#039;s are new and may only be copying the format of a larger more established site, like this one, but many more follow the more standard format. The site you should really be taking notes from are the largest and most successful one, as they are the ones that have manged to attract the most users to edit them and work on them, and almost all of the one&#039;s I&#039;ve seen that get that large follow a similar format to Wikipedia. While a more humor based system will appeal to some people, history shows that the more traditional format seems to attract more people.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, while I don&#039;t doubt that you have seen people in favor of this format, I feel like if you spread the question beyond the confines of this sites community, I do feel that the the number of people in favor of this would drop, as it is not the preferred format on most wiki based sites. This fact would indicate that it&#039;s not really popular in the larger online community.&lt;br /&gt;
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The other things, which I have mentioned before, if humor is highly subjective. I can personally say I do not find any of the captions I&#039;ve read funny, but I know I can&#039;t use that as a base for everyone else, but it shows an example of the intended idea of having something &amp;quot;funny&amp;quot;, can actually hurt the site. In real life, if you tell a joke, and it bombs, you normally end up embarrassing yourself, and I know that in my case it usually makes for a fairly awkward situation. Apply this to a wiki page, while you don&#039;t have the same embarrassed situation, it looks bad for the site as a whole. The more casual fan who just stop by maybe to look up an episodes list, or maybe needs a reference picture for something, reads one of these captions. Maybe they think it&#039;s funny, but the more likely response is confusion and not understanding why it&#039;s the way it is. If they don&#039;t know that the intention is a joke, it can result in confusion, or result in turning someone off to possibly joining the community.&lt;br /&gt;
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But here&#039;s one of the two my biggest issue in this situation. I&#039;d be able to take some humor based captions, but the humor based captions seem to be the rule rather than exception. Now I like to laugh as much as the next guy, but I do think that if you really want to keep some humor in the articles, it would work better in smaller portions. I think of it like hanging out with a guy who just doesn&#039;t know when to stop making jokes, yeah he&#039;s funny once in a while, but if everything out of his mouth is some kind of joke, it get&#039;s annoying. That&#039;s how it feels when I read pages, almost every image I see has some kind of joke on it, if it&#039;s got anything at all. I feel that if this how it&#039;s going to be, and I know think that it will be for a long time, that it should be done in moderation. As it stands right now, it kinda feels like that it keeps coming at you, while not fully providing context of the picture, which is my other biggest point.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some picture need to put in context. Take the page of [[Alexis Thi Dang]], near the end of the Armada section, their is a picture of her crying after Starscream died. Now, the caption reads &amp;quot;They told me mullets were making a comeback. They lied!&amp;quot;, not only does it sorta take the intended emotional impact of the scene out, but the image doesn&#039;t make sense to someone who hasn&#039;t seen the episode, or hasn&#039;t seen it in a long time. In general, this is something that needs to be addressed, some picture need to have context to make sense in the page. The Images real purpose to to give the reader a better insight into the articles content, they should compliment each other to give a better view what is being described in the article, and putting a joke caption in hurts or even robs it of the ability to do so, especially if the the person has not actually seen/read the materiel in question, it could be a picture of anything and any caption and ultimately have the same affect.&lt;br /&gt;
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So in conclusion, I don&#039;t think that the &amp;quot;humor&amp;quot; aspect will change in the near future. But I really do think it needs to be toned down at least and let being and informative site be at the for front of what the site is about. Let images have informative caption when necessary, and if people want to have their little jokes, fine, but I think the idea of having fun may of gone to far with the image captions and content and context is starting to suffer.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;d appreciate it if my opinion was genuinely considered, but even if it&#039;s not, I still felt the need to voice my opinion on the matter, and I hope you don&#039;t take any of this as a personal insult or attack, it&#039;s not intended to be.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 20:48, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: [[Talk:Main_Page]] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 21:32, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes they could, this is true, but it&#039;s not truly efficient. If I&#039;m reading one of my text a books for example and their is a diagram or image of an individual, I want the caption to be put in the context and explain what it&#039;s purpose is for being on the page so I can look at it on the same page I&#039;m reading the relevant information on it. I don&#039;t want to have to look it up some where else to find out it&#039;s context.&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t know how big the community on here is, but the Transformer fan base is much larger than what is represented here. I feel like you (by you, I mean the community in general) have unintentionally made the site less appealing to other fans of the series. I know myself and more than a few of my friends have been put off by the captioning here. The most common thing I&#039;ve heard is it does not make them confident they can trust in the information given when the pages are presented in such a manor.That is one of the worst thing for a wiki based site, as the intention is present information, if people get a bad first impression, then they probably aren&#039;t going to come back.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:48, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:We have tens of thousands of people who edit on here. Almost every fan site out there relies on us as a source. The Legends cards copy our articles bios for their cards. Freaking Hasbro invites us every year to Toy Fair. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 22:04, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: First do real work on this website.  Real work.  Add real content.  For, like, months.  Maybe years.  THEN maybe tell us how to totally change our whole wiki forever because of what you and your friends have decided amongst yourselves and runs contrary to our entire mission statement.  Do not bring up this subject again until then.  End of discussion.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 22:07, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This message is addresed to It&#039;sWalky&lt;br /&gt;
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I may be new here, but I&#039;ve edited wiki and wiki based sites for years, as well as being a life long fan of franchise. Just because I&#039;m new here doesn&#039;t mean that my views should be dismissed right off the back. I&#039;d also point out that it wasn&#039;t &amp;quot;me and my friends deciding among ourselves&amp;quot; I was solely referring to, while I have discussed this with my friends, I&#039;ve also discussed it with other&#039;s on other wikis, even a couple of people I out right do not get along with, but agreed on this topic.&lt;br /&gt;
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I will say this, you do not have to get cross with me. I voiced my opinion, which I believe is allowed. You shouldn&#039;t be threatened by my opinions, maybe take what I have to say, considered some of my points, and If you don&#039;t agree with me, you can present the response in a formal, less aggressive way. I only wish to help improve the quality of the site, and help it expanded into a larger community, I&#039;m sorry if you took this the wrong way, I just tend to not give short responses in general, I give short essays responses. I&#039;ve been told in the past this can come off as pushy or aggressive, but it&#039;s not my intent, it&#039;s just how I&#039;m wired to be meticulous in responses and point of view.&lt;br /&gt;
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I am truly sorry if I&#039;ve offended anyone, I&#039;m here for the same reason as everyone else, because I love this franchise, and I do think for the most part your content is excellent, it&#039;s just this one thing I wanted to help improve. The community has done a lot, and does have an impressive user count (13850 users have registered sense June 2008, yes I counted, that&#039;s another one of those personality quirks I have).&lt;br /&gt;
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My suggestions were not an insult or meant as such, only suggestions to help improve artical content and maybe help the wiki appeal to a broader demographic.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll end on the apology for how this was taken, but not apologize my views, they are mine and I&#039;m entitled to them, but so is everyone here, and if this is how they want it, then I&#039;ll leave it alone for now.&lt;br /&gt;
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I hope we can be mature about this, leave any hard feeling behind and move on.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Dude, stop. English names are not transferred across different characters. Big Convoy is not Big Prime. [[Gren]] is not Hook. Gaia Guardian is not Gaia Defensor, etc. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 21:50, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Big Convoy has never been named in English, Gren&#039;s never been named as that, and Gaia Guardian doesn&#039;t have an English name. Those examples don&#039;t work at all. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 21:55, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You are severely missing the point. The Kre-O character has no name, English or otherwise. All we have is the assumed intent of the writer (so, &amp;quot;Alexa&amp;quot;). What applies to the original character does not automatically apply to homages, as I&#039;ve shown with my examples.&lt;br /&gt;
::And, frankly, if you had an issue, a better method of action would have been discussing rather than automatically reverting the preference of the person taking the time to make those pages! [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 22:03, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Mimi has a point. using the Alexis/Alexa Kre-o as an  example; this wiki typically uses the Japanese name unless/until and  English name is made. So, while the Kre-O character  might be based  off Alexis from Armada, we must call her what the comic calls her. And since the comic calls her nothing, author intent is all we have to go on. I say stick with Alexa but keep the reference to  Alexis in the notes/[[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 22:27, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Eh. Whatever, I don&#039;t even know all that much about the Japanese names, so I&#039;m not the best one to ask about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 16:59, 15 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Give me a mistake in the paragraph please.[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Please don&#039;t say that being a woman is an insult.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:32, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For clarification, I think [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Waspinator_(BW)&amp;amp;curid=335&amp;amp;diff=828439&amp;amp;oldid=827733&amp;amp;rcid=666524 Supernova222] was the one who said it first. Just letting that out there. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 22:48, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I wasn&#039;t trying to sir. Inkblot is correct. I just undid my revision cause I wasn&#039;t sure if it was correct or not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:37, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:(sometimes I should just sit down and shut up.) [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:40, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You need to settle down just a little bit. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:34, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sorry, sir. I just got a bit too angry.[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 19:38, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please explain why you revert everything I contribute on this wiki?! - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 15:53, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The Ravage note was unessasary. The Team Prime image was fine, though you might want to move it to the episode section. Also, good job on editing the Soundwave ROTF page, the rape thing is one of the few PG-13 level things that is not accepted here. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 15:56, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Thanks. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 16:01, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Could you give me an example of a mistake in the paragraph in the AOE page? I checked it on EVERY grammar,punctuation and spell checker page to fix it. No problems... I even contacted my language arts teacher. No problem in the paragraph. It&#039;s getting a little bit fishy....[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Why did you remove my talk on the Knock Out page? I thought the talk pages were for disscussing changes? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:13, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re saying that being gay is a bad thing, and that is not acceptable. Quit it right now. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:15, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sorry, but being gay really is a bad thing, the Bible says so. But if the wiki community doesn&#039;t want it on there I won&#039;t add it again, okay? :) - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:19, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, it&#039;s not a bad thing. If you ever add that again, you will get into some major trouble. Now don&#039;t add it again. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:21, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Sorry, I won&#039;t add it again. But plz don&#039;t be so cross, I didn&#039;t know it was against the rules I&#039;m new here. what exactly do not mean &amp;quot;major trouble? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:24, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Being banned. Saying stuff like that is absolutely against the rules. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:29, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Okay, it&#039;s completely understood. :) But if I say &amp;quot;Bank robbers stink&amp;quot; is that okay? (Just thought I&#039;d better ask so I don&#039;t violate any more rules, LOL, not off to a very good start, am I? :))BTW, you got a YouTube channel friend? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:33, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::That is acceptable. And no, I don&#039;t. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:36, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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For the second time, chill. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:51, 5 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Zobovor]]&#039;s fake BW names on BW DVD ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for reverting my edit.  i really thought those were preliminary names for the BW characters!  --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:32, 25 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moving pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You realise that when you move pages, as you&#039;ve been doing when Kre-O cameos show up without even making a &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[x (Kre-O)]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; page, you&#039;re meant to fix the links to point to the new page, yes? [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Rattrap]] alone shows 333 &#039;&#039;mainspace&#039;&#039; links! (There&#039;s a reason for the bolded &amp;quot;Warning! This can be a drastic and unexpected change for a popular page; please be sure you understand the consequences of this before proceeding.&amp;quot; text!). - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 22:49, 24 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why did you revert my optimus prime edit and the edit someone else did? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:08, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For main images we use the first body or the body the characters had the most. Optimus Prime&#039;s appeared more in his body from the first three movies than the one from AOE, so we&#039;re sticking with the image we already had. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:11, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Would it not make sense to have a up to date image? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:16, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s not how it works. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:17, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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But shouldn&#039;t it be? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It would inform those not aware of the change, make the wiki seem up to date and would be a accurate representation of the character as he is now. --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:24, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Look, I didn&#039;t make the rules. You&#039;re going to have to ask someone like Itswalky, abates, or M Sipher about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:27, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Even then that image he uploaded is no good. Prime is smooshed in the center with all that wasted space on the big OPTIMUS PRIME in the background. We need a good clear shot of the character. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 19:14, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Vigilant Town ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Youtube version is actually edited in the last scene, explaining the Decepticon insignia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtEwQrlEAI4&lt;br /&gt;
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But the Hub network released this episode on their website, and most likely that&#039;s the original non-edited episode. http://www.hubnetwork.com/shows/transformers-rescue-bots/videos/full-episode-the-island-of-misfit-tech-episode-13-season-2&lt;br /&gt;
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Please check the differences before reverting. [[User:Klink|Klink]] ([[User talk:Klink|talk]]) 23:46, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wow, that Decepticon sigil was so blatantly edited in by someone else. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 23:57, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Eh. I hadn&#039;t seen the episode, and I&#039;d trusted abates judgement more than the newbie. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:59, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tenses==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, just a quick reminder that fiction sections need to be in the past tense. Thanks! [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 14:50, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, sorry about that. I&#039;ll remember next time! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:04, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Helloooo==&lt;br /&gt;
Hihi, I didn&#039;t realize there were any other translady editors of the TFWiki. Hello! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 19:06, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hello there! One of our admins is too, [[User:FortMax]]. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:39, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Embarrassing fact- she follows me on twitter, but I forgot she was an admin here, haha. Anyway, nice talkin to you, see you round the wiki! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 00:06, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Nice talking to you, too! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 11:59, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Response==&lt;br /&gt;
What are you specifically talking about.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The removal of the Scorn caption and comments you left on abates and Jalaguy&#039;s pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 17:35, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Scorn&#039;s caption does not come off as a joke, but at any rate, The Picture of Scorn is a concept art, and should be noted as such, given that concept art often does not share the same appearance of the final product. I&#039;m not necessarily opposed to humor by nature, but it shouldn&#039;t get in the way of information, on and information based site.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:56, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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EDIT:For future reference, when responding to a message, please leave it on the talk page of the person you are speaking to so they get a notification message.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, it really shouldn&#039;t. And no, that&#039;s not how it works either. You have to refresh talk pages and check recent changes to see if someone&#039;s updated a talk page. Don&#039;t put responses to things on your talk page to other people&#039;s talk pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:00, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why shouldn&#039;t it? It&#039;s the exact type of picture that needs context to explain it, official imaging that is altered or not representative of the final product.&lt;br /&gt;
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And, for the most part in my experience, wiki&#039;s use the method of response I use, as it guarantee&#039;s the user get&#039;s the message. Doing it the other way can lead to a number of complication, like the user not getting the message, or information being lost in communication.&lt;br /&gt;
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Final quick question, Are you an Admin or Mod?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:10, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, if they want to know what it is, they can just look at the description on the image itself. Stop trying to make the wiki work the wayt you want it to.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And I&#039;m not sure where you get that idea from. You&#039;re going to get the message, no matter what, Maybe it works that way at Wikia, but not here.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And no, I&#039;m not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:15, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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As you are not an Admin, I would like to ask you not to discuss this with me, as it&#039;s not really your place to. While I do appreciate the desire to look after a wiki that you contribute to, unless you are of a position of authority, trying to enforce any rule or policy will not result in desirable results, especially as the Admin&#039;s are the one who are really the one&#039;s to determine if a policy is being broken or not, and a standard user does not necessarily have the same ability to truly recognize this, and even if they do, they don&#039;t have the authority to do anything about it. For future references, if you think someone is breaking a policy or vandalizing pages, contact an Admin or site Mod, rather than taking matter&#039;s into your own hands, as this often does little to help the situation or can even make it worse.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:30, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:......It&#039;s a public forum. Just because I&#039;m not a moderator doesn&#039;t mean I shouldn&#039;t tell you that you&#039;re not doing what&#039;s right and ask you to stop. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:And even then, why wouldn&#039;t I know how to interpret the rules? The rules are stated outright among various pages. This isn&#039;t some message board. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:51, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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In theory, you are right, but in practice that rarely works. If the user is a true vandal, just messing up the page for kicks, it won&#039;t have achieved anything, and may in fact motivate said vandal to keep it up. If it&#039;s just another user, then you run into a several other problems. You may not truly understand the full meaning of policy&#039;s, or if they are truly being violated, especially if it&#039;s a gray type of situation. In those situation, you may just achieve amnesty with a new user who was trying to help. Many people do not appreciate being told what to do by a person in a non-authoritative position, as you are essentially the same &amp;quot;rank&amp;quot; as them, you don&#039;t truly have the authority to make any real demands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most Admins are Admins for a reason, normally they are excellent editors but also, more importantly, they have excellent crisis situation skills and know how to handle problems users, or users who may simply of made a mistake. At most, a person in a non-authoritative position should ever directly do in a situation where they think someone is breaking policies, is politely inform them of the site policies, and if the situation continues, notify an Admin and let them handle it, as there is little else of use you can actually do.&lt;br /&gt;
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As to misinterpreting the rule, it&#039;s easy to do, as not every situation fit&#039;s into the set rules perfectly, many situation have grey aspects to them and are not always easily resolved by a set forth rule, and need some one in a position of authority to properly resolve the situation. --[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:TFWiki doesn&#039;t have a massive problem with non-admin users giving advice to new users if it&#039;s basic stuff like &#039;please don&#039;t remove captions/add scores of new captions&#039;. Admins aren&#039;t always around, and sometimes new users just need pointing to our policy pages. That being said, Escargon, you can sometimes be a bit quick to jump down people&#039;s throats over stuff like this. Please try and remain calm and courteous when engaging with other users. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 19:01, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Alright. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:04, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well how many Transformers Wiki&#039;s are their?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:29, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:A couple. But we&#039;re the original one. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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That sort of takes the wind out of that arguments sails.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:43, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, it doesn&#039;t. We&#039;ve been around since 2006. We&#039;re far more succesful than any other attempt at making a wiki for TF. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:47, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Do you understand why I said it takes the wind out of the argument?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:49, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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==To-Do List==&lt;br /&gt;
===Operation: Screen Captures===&lt;br /&gt;
Screen cap (re)tagging:&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Generation 1 screen captures|G1]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:The Headmasters screen captures|Headmasters]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;/[[:Category:Super-God Masterforce screen captures|Masterforce]]/&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Victory screen captures|Victory]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;/&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Zone screen captures|Zone]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Beast Wars screen captures|Beast Wars]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;/&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Beast Machines screen captures|Beast Machines]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Robots in Disguise screen captures|Robots in Disguise]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Armada screen captures|Armada]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;/[[:Category:Energon screen captures|Energon]]/&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Cybertron screen captures|Cybertron]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Animated screen captures|Animated]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
====Pictures of unidentified origin====&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t know which episodes these are from - feel free to tag them with {{tl|MFcap}} or {{tl|Energoncap}} if you know!&lt;br /&gt;
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Image:Diver suiton.jpg|Diver from Masterforce&lt;br /&gt;
Image:EnergonGeneric.jpg|Some dude from Energon&lt;br /&gt;
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===Useful URLs===&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.bot-shots.com/check_list.php Bot Shots bios]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heatwave GB==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, abates. I was going to change Heatwave&#039;s GoBox to something I made from the Rescue Bots &#039;&#039;Memory&#039;&#039; game cards...&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://obscuretf.com/GB-RBHeatwave2.jpg]&lt;br /&gt;
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... but I saw that you made the original GoBox, so I thought I&#039;d get your opinion on it first. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] ([[User talk:Monzo|talk]]) 11:39, 17 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sure, go for it! I&#039;ll make sure the version that appears on other sites updates. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:57, 17 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Could you fix this? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m regularising the Marvel UK cover filenames, but I accidentally just moved the #101 cover to [[:File:MarvelUK-102.jpg]]. Could you move it to [[:File:MarvelUK-101.jpg]] and delete the redirect so I can move the actual #102 cover there, please? Ta. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 19:17, 27 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:All done! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:24, 27 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hi ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello, thanks for the notice. I just fixed that up. ;-D --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 05:05, 4 February 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Awesome, thanks! :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 05:42, 4 February 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== About three users... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t want to sound overly cautious and paranoid, but it&#039;s bothered me for a while: Is it possible that [[Special:Contributions/Emperor_of_Terror_Scorponok|these]] [[Special:Contributions/Unicron_The_Chaos_Bringer|three]] [[Special:Contributions/Optimus_Prime_The_Savoir|users]] are one and the same? I mean, they feature similar styles of contributions, not to mention the names. Just putting this out there... --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 03:51, 29 March 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I did a checkuser and... yep, they&#039;re one and the same, as far as I can tell. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 04:01, 29 March 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s another one: Are these [[User:Noerk|two]] [[User:KirbyForce1|guys]] the same? I hope not... --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 18:02, 7 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I was wondering this myself a while ago. That the exact fan-art on Noerk&#039;s userpage can be found on KirbyForce1&#039;s deviantART page is kind of damning, unless Noerk was lying about the art being his. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 18:07, 7 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Naw, pretty sure they&#039;re different people. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:22, 7 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::PHEW! Thank goodness! --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 18:24, 7 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Could [[User:Ratchet0202]] be perma-banned [[User:Ironhide0202]]? Very similar names, very similar editing patterns. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 09:15, 11 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yep, it looks like! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 17:07, 11 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, abates, could you do another one? [[User:Energizer]] and [[User:SirSpoonwave]] have very similar posting habits, and it&#039;s making me suspicious.[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 22:53, 21 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:SirSpoonwave has not edited in a year and a half so any checkuser data is expired. In any case, it&#039;s not like either of them is a problem user. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 23:26, 21 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, could you run checkusers on [[User:Bruticus-Maxwell]] and [[User:JaAm-On-Toast]]? They seem likely candidates for KirbyForce sockpuppets... Cheers. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 17:26, 22 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Okay, yeah, they were KirbyForce. Just noticed [[User:SlimerJoel]] from a few days ago, though... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 17:54, 22 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Checkuser on SlimerJoel was inconclusive, unfortunately! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:46, 22 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Can you check [[User:Thunderstrike57]]? His/her edit to [[Drift (ROTF)]] makes me suspect KirbyForce again. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 07:11, 23 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Nope, doesn&#039;t look like that&#039;s him. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:37, 23 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Could you check this new Septesson guy? I think he&#039;s Norek. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 16:24, 28 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, I admit that perhaps I went a little overboard with the Interstellar Challenge course (as I admit of being afraid of too-small articles), thanks for refining it a bit.&lt;br /&gt;
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Double thanks for helping refine my articles and images :-) {{unsigned|Go(toby070)Bots}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:No problem! BTW, you should sign talk page comments by using &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; (or by using the squiggly signature button in the toolbar over the edit window. It&#039;s the one second from the right). --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 21:58, 4 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Add the Dinobots ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since you&#039;re in charge of the [[Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|Age of Extinction]] page, why aren&#039;t the other Dinobots Slug, Slash, and Scorn aren&#039;t in the chart full of characters? I made their pages if you haven&#039;t noticed. Can you please add the Dinobots? [[User:Movie09|Movie09]] ([[User talk:Movie09|talk]]) 09:05, 11 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:They&#039;re not on there because as far as I know, we haven&#039;t seen official confirmation they&#039;re in the movie. We&#039;ve only seen Grimlock and Strafe in trailers so far, and none of the Dinobots were in the list of voice actors revealed the other day. I&#039;m not in charge of the AOE page, but as it was locked down so only admins could edit it, I was trying to keep it as up to date as I could. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 17:03, 11 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Checkuser==&lt;br /&gt;
Really sorry to use you as &#039;the checkuser guy&#039; again, but I rather suspect that [[User:AdrenntheMan]] might be [[User:OptimusPrime12]]/[[User:MetroPlex71]], not least because OptimusPrime12&#039;s email address began with &#039;Adrenn&#039;. Cheers. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 14:57, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yup! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:03, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Okay, this might just me being paranoid, but could you check [[User:JangoPrime365]] too? He registered an hour after Adrenntheman was blocked, his MO is similar, and he uploaded [[:File:Prime gets shotAOE.jpg]], which is identical in dimensions, size and metadata to [[:File:Optimus gets shot AOE.jpg]], uploaded by MetroPlex71... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 18:52, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Same useragent string plus the timing makes me think you&#039;re right. Something else that doesn&#039;t add up is that he claims on his talk page to be in Australia, but his IP address indicates he&#039;s editing from Austria. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:24, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::[http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/archive/2/2a/20140713004842%21Dreadwing_Rising_Storm_adaption.jpg *cough*] [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 20:58, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why are you guys so suspicious about me? Am I a wanted hacker or something. I was searching for administrators so I can know more about them, abates/you came first. I decided to read your page and I found this. I thought to myself, &amp;quot; Am I being accused that I&#039;m someone else?&amp;quot;. I didn&#039;t know what mo was so I looked it up. Now I know. I decided to mind my own business and upload a file of dreadwing. I didn&#039;t crop it right so it showed a couple of pages. So what? . I know how you guys are feeling. You guys don&#039;t trust because I&#039;m  the &amp;quot;New Guy&amp;quot;. Same thing happened on wookiepedia. Everyone was suspicious at me because they think I&#039;m dangerous or something, Get this, I&#039;m not. I&#039;m just new and I&#039;m trying to enjoy myself in here. So can you guys stop being paranoid and give me a boost up on this wiki? &lt;br /&gt;
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If you guys still don&#039;t trust me, feel free to kick me or remove out of this website, I&#039;ll understand.&lt;br /&gt;
:JangoPrime365&lt;br /&gt;
:You are not being suspected because you&#039;re a &amp;quot;new guy&amp;quot;, you are being suspected because your behavior is somewhat similar to a user who&#039;s been banned. In many wikis, it&#039;s not uncommon for a banned user to create a new account to try and bypass a ban, and our policy for ban evasion is &#039;&#039;always&#039;&#039; a permanent ban for every account the user has and will make. The sad part is that there are many instances when the ban is temporary, and the user could have simply waited for it to pass, rather than take the chance and be permanently banned. Just giving out the facts. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 02:26, 13 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I understand but  guys, don&#039;t accuse me of being someone else. I know the rules about the &amp;quot;only one account per person&amp;quot;. I don&#039;t create multiple accounts because I know it results into a ban. Being honest, I&#039;m one of the shy types. I don&#039;t want to get that much of attention from a group of people. It starts to make me uncomfortable and paranoid. So why accuse a new-timer rather than giving me tips and a head start on this wiki? .&lt;br /&gt;
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The captions were not informative as to what the content of the picture was. Image captions are meant to put an image into context of the page. The caption on the images I edited did not serve this purpose. I&#039;ve been here in the past and it is incredibly off putting to see image captions with jokes rather than information. It does not inspire confidence even if the content of the page is good. It makes it hard to take the site seriously as a information source, which is what all wiki based site really are.&lt;br /&gt;
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While I can understand the idea of trying to be light and a little humorous, I know that at least more than a few people find this incredibly off putting and unprofessional, which hurt&#039;s a site&#039;s like this ability to attract people to it. While the user&#039;s here may think it&#039;s funny, the average person who comes here will not appreciate it the same way, or may not understand the context of the joke, it can ruin the first impression make it so people may not come back. A large portion of people who come to wiki based sites are not hard core fans, but the casual viewer or someone who has a passing interest in the franchise, or is trying to get more information on something they may be missing context on. They aren&#039;t looking for jokes, they just want information. Another thing Humor is HIGHLY subjective to the individual, putting a joke on the main page of an article meant to be view by the general population in general is not a good idea, given that a lot of people won&#039;t even think it&#039;s funny, and if they they don&#039;t think it&#039;s funny, then they are probably just gonna think it&#039;s stupid, and that gives a bad impression of the site.&lt;br /&gt;
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But the biggest reason I&#039;m doing it is that the tone of image captions seems to be spilling over into actual article content. Image captioning is one thing, but the content of the article proper should only be factual information.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;d also like to note that at the time I edited the captions, I didn&#039;t not actually know the site made it a policy to have humorous captions, just so you know that I wasn&#039;t trying to make a point and be a menace or anything, everything I do is in an attempt to improve the quality of the site. --[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 16:21, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can I ask who are the Admin&#039;s here, for future reference?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:45, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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First, I would like to thank you for the list of Admins, it&#039;s always helpful to know who is in charge.&lt;br /&gt;
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Second, I don&#039;t want to be trouble maker, but I do feel the need to express my point of view on the subject in it&#039;s entirety. I just ask you let me say my piece, and If I if you don&#039;t agree with my views, that is fine, I won&#039;t push the issue after I&#039;ve made all my feeling known, but I do as that you listen and consider what I say. I have been a regular editor of a number of wiki based sites for years and have a good deal of experience on what works with a these sites and what doesn&#039;t, in general at least.&lt;br /&gt;
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First thing is that while the current community may like how it is, this in general makes it harder for a wiki to grow as a community, as you have become specialized to appeal larger base. While you may of noticed other wiki&#039;s using a similar type of system, that does not, by it&#039;s nature mean it&#039;s a good thing. Some wiki&#039;s are new and may only be copying the format of a larger more established site, like this one, but many more follow the more standard format. The site you should really be taking notes from are the largest and most successful one, as they are the ones that have manged to attract the most users to edit them and work on them, and almost all of the one&#039;s I&#039;ve seen that get that large follow a similar format to Wikipedia. While a more humor based system will appeal to some people, history shows that the more traditional format seems to attract more people.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, while I don&#039;t doubt that you have seen people in favor of this format, I feel like if you spread the question beyond the confines of this sites community, I do feel that the the number of people in favor of this would drop, as it is not the preferred format on most wiki based sites. This fact would indicate that it&#039;s not really popular in the larger online community.&lt;br /&gt;
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The other things, which I have mentioned before, if humor is highly subjective. I can personally say I do not find any of the captions I&#039;ve read funny, but I know I can&#039;t use that as a base for everyone else, but it shows an example of the intended idea of having something &amp;quot;funny&amp;quot;, can actually hurt the site. In real life, if you tell a joke, and it bombs, you normally end up embarrassing yourself, and I know that in my case it usually makes for a fairly awkward situation. Apply this to a wiki page, while you don&#039;t have the same embarrassed situation, it looks bad for the site as a whole. The more casual fan who just stop by maybe to look up an episodes list, or maybe needs a reference picture for something, reads one of these captions. Maybe they think it&#039;s funny, but the more likely response is confusion and not understanding why it&#039;s the way it is. If they don&#039;t know that the intention is a joke, it can result in confusion, or result in turning someone off to possibly joining the community.&lt;br /&gt;
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But here&#039;s one of the two my biggest issue in this situation. I&#039;d be able to take some humor based captions, but the humor based captions seem to be the rule rather than exception. Now I like to laugh as much as the next guy, but I do think that if you really want to keep some humor in the articles, it would work better in smaller portions. I think of it like hanging out with a guy who just doesn&#039;t know when to stop making jokes, yeah he&#039;s funny once in a while, but if everything out of his mouth is some kind of joke, it get&#039;s annoying. That&#039;s how it feels when I read pages, almost every image I see has some kind of joke on it, if it&#039;s got anything at all. I feel that if this how it&#039;s going to be, and I know think that it will be for a long time, that it should be done in moderation. As it stands right now, it kinda feels like that it keeps coming at you, while not fully providing context of the picture, which is my other biggest point.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some picture need to put in context. Take the page of [[Alexis Thi Dang]], near the end of the Armada section, their is a picture of her crying after Starscream died. Now, the caption reads &amp;quot;They told me mullets were making a comeback. They lied!&amp;quot;, not only does it sorta take the intended emotional impact of the scene out, but the image doesn&#039;t make sense to someone who hasn&#039;t seen the episode, or hasn&#039;t seen it in a long time. In general, this is something that needs to be addressed, some picture need to have context to make sense in the page. The Images real purpose to to give the reader a better insight into the articles content, they should compliment each other to give a better view what is being described in the article, and putting a joke caption in hurts or even robs it of the ability to do so, especially if the the person has not actually seen/read the materiel in question, it could be a picture of anything and any caption and ultimately have the same affect.&lt;br /&gt;
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So in conclusion, I don&#039;t think that the &amp;quot;humor&amp;quot; aspect will change in the near future. But I really do think it needs to be toned down at least and let being and informative site be at the for front of what the site is about. Let images have informative caption when necessary, and if people want to have their little jokes, fine, but I think the idea of having fun may of gone to far with the image captions and content and context is starting to suffer.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;d appreciate it if my opinion was genuinely considered, but even if it&#039;s not, I still felt the need to voice my opinion on the matter, and I hope you don&#039;t take any of this as a personal insult or attack, it&#039;s not intended to be.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 20:48, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes they could, this is true, but it&#039;s not truly efficient. If I&#039;m reading one of my text a books for example and their is a diagram or image of an individual, I want the caption to be put in the context and explain what it&#039;s purpose is for being on the page so I can look at it on the same page I&#039;m reading the relevant information on it. I don&#039;t want to have to look it up some where else to find out it&#039;s context.&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t know how big the community on here is, but the Transformer fan base is much larger than what is represented here. I feel like you (by you, I mean the community in general) have unintentionally made the site less appealing to other fans of the series. I know myself and more than a few of my friends have been put off by the captioning here. The most common thing I&#039;ve heard is it does not make them confident they can trust in the information given when the pages are presented in such a manor.That is one of the worst thing for a wiki based site, as the intention is present information, if people get a bad first impression, then they probably aren&#039;t going to come back.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:48, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;8492nd: /* Response */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Dude, stop. English names are not transferred across different characters. Big Convoy is not Big Prime. [[Gren]] is not Hook. Gaia Guardian is not Gaia Defensor, etc. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 21:50, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Big Convoy has never been named in English, Gren&#039;s never been named as that, and Gaia Guardian doesn&#039;t have an English name. Those examples don&#039;t work at all. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 21:55, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You are severely missing the point. The Kre-O character has no name, English or otherwise. All we have is the assumed intent of the writer (so, &amp;quot;Alexa&amp;quot;). What applies to the original character does not automatically apply to homages, as I&#039;ve shown with my examples.&lt;br /&gt;
::And, frankly, if you had an issue, a better method of action would have been discussing rather than automatically reverting the preference of the person taking the time to make those pages! [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 22:03, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Mimi has a point. using the Alexis/Alexa Kre-o as an  example; this wiki typically uses the Japanese name unless/until and  English name is made. So, while the Kre-O character  might be based  off Alexis from Armada, we must call her what the comic calls her. And since the comic calls her nothing, author intent is all we have to go on. I say stick with Alexa but keep the reference to  Alexis in the notes/[[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 22:27, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Eh. Whatever, I don&#039;t even know all that much about the Japanese names, so I&#039;m not the best one to ask about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 16:59, 15 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Give me a mistake in the paragraph please.[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Please don&#039;t say that being a woman is an insult.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:32, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For clarification, I think [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Waspinator_(BW)&amp;amp;curid=335&amp;amp;diff=828439&amp;amp;oldid=827733&amp;amp;rcid=666524 Supernova222] was the one who said it first. Just letting that out there. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 22:48, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I wasn&#039;t trying to sir. Inkblot is correct. I just undid my revision cause I wasn&#039;t sure if it was correct or not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:37, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:(sometimes I should just sit down and shut up.) [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:40, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You need to settle down just a little bit. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:34, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sorry, sir. I just got a bit too angry.[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 19:38, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please explain why you revert everything I contribute on this wiki?! - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 15:53, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The Ravage note was unessasary. The Team Prime image was fine, though you might want to move it to the episode section. Also, good job on editing the Soundwave ROTF page, the rape thing is one of the few PG-13 level things that is not accepted here. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 15:56, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Thanks. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 16:01, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Could you give me an example of a mistake in the paragraph in the AOE page? I checked it on EVERY grammar,punctuation and spell checker page to fix it. No problems... I even contacted my language arts teacher. No problem in the paragraph. It&#039;s getting a little bit fishy....[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Why did you remove my talk on the Knock Out page? I thought the talk pages were for disscussing changes? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:13, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re saying that being gay is a bad thing, and that is not acceptable. Quit it right now. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:15, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sorry, but being gay really is a bad thing, the Bible says so. But if the wiki community doesn&#039;t want it on there I won&#039;t add it again, okay? :) - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:19, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, it&#039;s not a bad thing. If you ever add that again, you will get into some major trouble. Now don&#039;t add it again. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:21, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Sorry, I won&#039;t add it again. But plz don&#039;t be so cross, I didn&#039;t know it was against the rules I&#039;m new here. what exactly do not mean &amp;quot;major trouble? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:24, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Being banned. Saying stuff like that is absolutely against the rules. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:29, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Okay, it&#039;s completely understood. :) But if I say &amp;quot;Bank robbers stink&amp;quot; is that okay? (Just thought I&#039;d better ask so I don&#039;t violate any more rules, LOL, not off to a very good start, am I? :))BTW, you got a YouTube channel friend? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:33, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::That is acceptable. And no, I don&#039;t. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:36, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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For the second time, chill. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:51, 5 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Zobovor]]&#039;s fake BW names on BW DVD ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for reverting my edit.  i really thought those were preliminary names for the BW characters!  --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:32, 25 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moving pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You realise that when you move pages, as you&#039;ve been doing when Kre-O cameos show up without even making a &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[x (Kre-O)]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; page, you&#039;re meant to fix the links to point to the new page, yes? [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Rattrap]] alone shows 333 &#039;&#039;mainspace&#039;&#039; links! (There&#039;s a reason for the bolded &amp;quot;Warning! This can be a drastic and unexpected change for a popular page; please be sure you understand the consequences of this before proceeding.&amp;quot; text!). - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 22:49, 24 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why did you revert my optimus prime edit and the edit someone else did? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:08, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For main images we use the first body or the body the characters had the most. Optimus Prime&#039;s appeared more in his body from the first three movies than the one from AOE, so we&#039;re sticking with the image we already had. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:11, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Would it not make sense to have a up to date image? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:16, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s not how it works. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:17, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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But shouldn&#039;t it be? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It would inform those not aware of the change, make the wiki seem up to date and would be a accurate representation of the character as he is now. --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:24, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Look, I didn&#039;t make the rules. You&#039;re going to have to ask someone like Itswalky, abates, or M Sipher about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:27, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Even then that image he uploaded is no good. Prime is smooshed in the center with all that wasted space on the big OPTIMUS PRIME in the background. We need a good clear shot of the character. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 19:14, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Vigilant Town ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Youtube version is actually edited in the last scene, explaining the Decepticon insignia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtEwQrlEAI4&lt;br /&gt;
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But the Hub network released this episode on their website, and most likely that&#039;s the original non-edited episode. http://www.hubnetwork.com/shows/transformers-rescue-bots/videos/full-episode-the-island-of-misfit-tech-episode-13-season-2&lt;br /&gt;
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Please check the differences before reverting. [[User:Klink|Klink]] ([[User talk:Klink|talk]]) 23:46, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wow, that Decepticon sigil was so blatantly edited in by someone else. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 23:57, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Eh. I hadn&#039;t seen the episode, and I&#039;d trusted abates judgement more than the newbie. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:59, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tenses==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, just a quick reminder that fiction sections need to be in the past tense. Thanks! [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 14:50, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, sorry about that. I&#039;ll remember next time! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:04, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Helloooo==&lt;br /&gt;
Hihi, I didn&#039;t realize there were any other translady editors of the TFWiki. Hello! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 19:06, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hello there! One of our admins is too, [[User:FortMax]]. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:39, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Embarrassing fact- she follows me on twitter, but I forgot she was an admin here, haha. Anyway, nice talkin to you, see you round the wiki! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 00:06, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Nice talking to you, too! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 11:59, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Response==&lt;br /&gt;
What are you specifically talking about.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The removal of the Scorn caption and comments you left on abates and Jalaguy&#039;s pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 17:35, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Scorn&#039;s caption does not come off as a joke, but at any rate, The Picture of Scorn is a concept art, and should be noted as such, given that concept art often does not share the same appearance of the final product. I&#039;m not necessarily opposed to humor by nature, but it shouldn&#039;t get in the way of information, on and information based site.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:56, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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EDIT:For future reference, when responding to a message, please leave it on the talk page of the person you are speaking to so they get a notification message.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, it really shouldn&#039;t. And no, that&#039;s not how it works either. You have to refresh talk pages and check recent changes to see if someone&#039;s updated a talk page. Don&#039;t put responses to things on your talk page to other people&#039;s talk pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:00, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why shouldn&#039;t it? It&#039;s the exact type of picture that needs context to explain it, official imaging that is altered or not representative of the final product.&lt;br /&gt;
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And, for the most part in my experience, wiki&#039;s use the method of response I use, as it guarantee&#039;s the user get&#039;s the message. Doing it the other way can lead to a number of complication, like the user not getting the message, or information being lost in communication.&lt;br /&gt;
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Final quick question, Are you an Admin or Mod?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:10, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, if they want to know what it is, they can just look at the description on the image itself. Stop trying to make the wiki work the wayt you want it to.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And I&#039;m not sure where you get that idea from. You&#039;re going to get the message, no matter what, Maybe it works that way at Wikia, but not here.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And no, I&#039;m not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:15, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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As you are not an Admin, I would like to ask you not to discuss this with me, as it&#039;s not really your place to. While I do appreciate the desire to look after a wiki that you contribute to, unless you are of a position of authority, trying to enforce any rule or policy will not result in desirable results, especially as the Admin&#039;s are the one who are really the one&#039;s to determine if a policy is being broken or not, and a standard user does not necessarily have the same ability to truly recognize this, and even if they do, they don&#039;t have the authority to do anything about it. For future references, if you think someone is breaking a policy or vandalizing pages, contact an Admin or site Mod, rather than taking matter&#039;s into your own hands, as this often does little to help the situation or can even make it worse.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:30, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:......It&#039;s a public forum. Just because I&#039;m not a moderator doesn&#039;t mean I shouldn&#039;t tell you that you&#039;re not doing what&#039;s right and ask you to stop. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:And even then, why wouldn&#039;t I know how to interpret the rules? The rules are stated outright among various pages. This isn&#039;t some message board. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:51, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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In theory, you are right, but in practice that rarely works. If the user is a true vandal, just messing up the page for kicks, it won&#039;t have achieved anything, and may in fact motivate said vandal to keep it up. If it&#039;s just another user, then you run into a several other problems. You may not truly understand the full meaning of policy&#039;s, or if they are truly being violated, especially if it&#039;s a gray type of situation. In those situation, you may just achieve amnesty with a new user who was trying to help. Many people do not appreciate being told what to do by a person in a non-authoritative position, as you are essentially the same &amp;quot;rank&amp;quot; as them, you don&#039;t truly have the authority to make any real demands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most Admins are Admins for a reason, normally they are excellent editors but also, more importantly, they have excellent crisis situation skills and know how to handle problems users, or users who may simply of made a mistake. At most, a person in a non-authoritative position should ever directly do in a situation where they think someone is breaking policies, is politely inform them of the site policies, and if the situation continues, notify an Admin and let them handle it, as there is little else of use you can actually do.&lt;br /&gt;
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As to misinterpreting the rule, it&#039;s easy to do, as not every situation fit&#039;s into the set rules perfectly, many situation have grey aspects to them and are not always easily resolved by a set forth rule, and need some one in a position of authority to properly resolve the situation. --[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:TFWiki doesn&#039;t have a massive problem with non-admin users giving advice to new users if it&#039;s basic stuff like &#039;please don&#039;t remove captions/add scores of new captions&#039;. Admins aren&#039;t always around, and sometimes new users just need pointing to our policy pages. That being said, Escargon, you can sometimes be a bit quick to jump down people&#039;s throats over stuff like this. Please try and remain calm and courteous when engaging with other users. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 19:01, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Alright. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:04, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well how many Transformers Wiki&#039;s are their?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:29, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:A couple. But we&#039;re the original one. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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That sort of takes the wind out of that arguments sails.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:43, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Dude, stop. English names are not transferred across different characters. Big Convoy is not Big Prime. [[Gren]] is not Hook. Gaia Guardian is not Gaia Defensor, etc. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 21:50, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Big Convoy has never been named in English, Gren&#039;s never been named as that, and Gaia Guardian doesn&#039;t have an English name. Those examples don&#039;t work at all. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 21:55, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You are severely missing the point. The Kre-O character has no name, English or otherwise. All we have is the assumed intent of the writer (so, &amp;quot;Alexa&amp;quot;). What applies to the original character does not automatically apply to homages, as I&#039;ve shown with my examples.&lt;br /&gt;
::And, frankly, if you had an issue, a better method of action would have been discussing rather than automatically reverting the preference of the person taking the time to make those pages! [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 22:03, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Mimi has a point. using the Alexis/Alexa Kre-o as an  example; this wiki typically uses the Japanese name unless/until and  English name is made. So, while the Kre-O character  might be based  off Alexis from Armada, we must call her what the comic calls her. And since the comic calls her nothing, author intent is all we have to go on. I say stick with Alexa but keep the reference to  Alexis in the notes/[[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 22:27, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Eh. Whatever, I don&#039;t even know all that much about the Japanese names, so I&#039;m not the best one to ask about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 16:59, 15 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Give me a mistake in the paragraph please.[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Please don&#039;t say that being a woman is an insult.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:32, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For clarification, I think [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Waspinator_(BW)&amp;amp;curid=335&amp;amp;diff=828439&amp;amp;oldid=827733&amp;amp;rcid=666524 Supernova222] was the one who said it first. Just letting that out there. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 22:48, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I wasn&#039;t trying to sir. Inkblot is correct. I just undid my revision cause I wasn&#039;t sure if it was correct or not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:37, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:(sometimes I should just sit down and shut up.) [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:40, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You need to settle down just a little bit. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:34, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sorry, sir. I just got a bit too angry.[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 19:38, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please explain why you revert everything I contribute on this wiki?! - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 15:53, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The Ravage note was unessasary. The Team Prime image was fine, though you might want to move it to the episode section. Also, good job on editing the Soundwave ROTF page, the rape thing is one of the few PG-13 level things that is not accepted here. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 15:56, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Thanks. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 16:01, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Could you give me an example of a mistake in the paragraph in the AOE page? I checked it on EVERY grammar,punctuation and spell checker page to fix it. No problems... I even contacted my language arts teacher. No problem in the paragraph. It&#039;s getting a little bit fishy....[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Why did you remove my talk on the Knock Out page? I thought the talk pages were for disscussing changes? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:13, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re saying that being gay is a bad thing, and that is not acceptable. Quit it right now. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:15, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sorry, but being gay really is a bad thing, the Bible says so. But if the wiki community doesn&#039;t want it on there I won&#039;t add it again, okay? :) - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:19, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, it&#039;s not a bad thing. If you ever add that again, you will get into some major trouble. Now don&#039;t add it again. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:21, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Sorry, I won&#039;t add it again. But plz don&#039;t be so cross, I didn&#039;t know it was against the rules I&#039;m new here. what exactly do not mean &amp;quot;major trouble? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:24, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Being banned. Saying stuff like that is absolutely against the rules. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:29, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Okay, it&#039;s completely understood. :) But if I say &amp;quot;Bank robbers stink&amp;quot; is that okay? (Just thought I&#039;d better ask so I don&#039;t violate any more rules, LOL, not off to a very good start, am I? :))BTW, you got a YouTube channel friend? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:33, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::That is acceptable. And no, I don&#039;t. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:36, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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For the second time, chill. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:51, 5 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Zobovor]]&#039;s fake BW names on BW DVD ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for reverting my edit.  i really thought those were preliminary names for the BW characters!  --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:32, 25 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moving pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You realise that when you move pages, as you&#039;ve been doing when Kre-O cameos show up without even making a &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[x (Kre-O)]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; page, you&#039;re meant to fix the links to point to the new page, yes? [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Rattrap]] alone shows 333 &#039;&#039;mainspace&#039;&#039; links! (There&#039;s a reason for the bolded &amp;quot;Warning! This can be a drastic and unexpected change for a popular page; please be sure you understand the consequences of this before proceeding.&amp;quot; text!). - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 22:49, 24 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why did you revert my optimus prime edit and the edit someone else did? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:08, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For main images we use the first body or the body the characters had the most. Optimus Prime&#039;s appeared more in his body from the first three movies than the one from AOE, so we&#039;re sticking with the image we already had. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:11, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Would it not make sense to have a up to date image? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:16, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s not how it works. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:17, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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But shouldn&#039;t it be? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It would inform those not aware of the change, make the wiki seem up to date and would be a accurate representation of the character as he is now. --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:24, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Look, I didn&#039;t make the rules. You&#039;re going to have to ask someone like Itswalky, abates, or M Sipher about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:27, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Even then that image he uploaded is no good. Prime is smooshed in the center with all that wasted space on the big OPTIMUS PRIME in the background. We need a good clear shot of the character. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 19:14, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Vigilant Town ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Youtube version is actually edited in the last scene, explaining the Decepticon insignia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtEwQrlEAI4&lt;br /&gt;
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But the Hub network released this episode on their website, and most likely that&#039;s the original non-edited episode. http://www.hubnetwork.com/shows/transformers-rescue-bots/videos/full-episode-the-island-of-misfit-tech-episode-13-season-2&lt;br /&gt;
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Please check the differences before reverting. [[User:Klink|Klink]] ([[User talk:Klink|talk]]) 23:46, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wow, that Decepticon sigil was so blatantly edited in by someone else. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 23:57, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Eh. I hadn&#039;t seen the episode, and I&#039;d trusted abates judgement more than the newbie. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:59, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tenses==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, just a quick reminder that fiction sections need to be in the past tense. Thanks! [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 14:50, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, sorry about that. I&#039;ll remember next time! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:04, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Helloooo==&lt;br /&gt;
Hihi, I didn&#039;t realize there were any other translady editors of the TFWiki. Hello! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 19:06, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hello there! One of our admins is too, [[User:FortMax]]. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:39, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Embarrassing fact- she follows me on twitter, but I forgot she was an admin here, haha. Anyway, nice talkin to you, see you round the wiki! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 00:06, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Nice talking to you, too! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 11:59, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Response==&lt;br /&gt;
What are you specifically talking about.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The removal of the Scorn caption and comments you left on abates and Jalaguy&#039;s pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 17:35, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Scorn&#039;s caption does not come off as a joke, but at any rate, The Picture of Scorn is a concept art, and should be noted as such, given that concept art often does not share the same appearance of the final product. I&#039;m not necessarily opposed to humor by nature, but it shouldn&#039;t get in the way of information, on and information based site.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:56, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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EDIT:For future reference, when responding to a message, please leave it on the talk page of the person you are speaking to so they get a notification message.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, it really shouldn&#039;t. And no, that&#039;s not how it works either. You have to refresh talk pages and check recent changes to see if someone&#039;s updated a talk page. Don&#039;t put responses to things on your talk page to other people&#039;s talk pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:00, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why shouldn&#039;t it? It&#039;s the exact type of picture that needs context to explain it, official imaging that is altered or not representative of the final product.&lt;br /&gt;
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And, for the most part in my experience, wiki&#039;s use the method of response I use, as it guarantee&#039;s the user get&#039;s the message. Doing it the other way can lead to a number of complication, like the user not getting the message, or information being lost in communication.&lt;br /&gt;
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Final quick question, Are you an Admin or Mod?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:10, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, if they want to know what it is, they can just look at the description on the image itself. Stop trying to make the wiki work the wayt you want it to.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And I&#039;m not sure where you get that idea from. You&#039;re going to get the message, no matter what, Maybe it works that way at Wikia, but not here.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And no, I&#039;m not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:15, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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As you are not an Admin, I would like to ask you not to discuss this with me, as it&#039;s not really your place to. While I do appreciate the desire to look after a wiki that you contribute to, unless you are of a position of authority, trying to enforce any rule or policy will not result in desirable results, especially as the Admin&#039;s are the one who are really the one&#039;s to determine if a policy is being broken or not, and a standard user does not necessarily have the same ability to truly recognize this, and even if they do, they don&#039;t have the authority to do anything about it. For future references, if you think someone is breaking a policy or vandalizing pages, contact an Admin or site Mod, rather than taking matter&#039;s into your own hands, as this often does little to help the situation or can even make it worse.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:30, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:......It&#039;s a public forum. Just because I&#039;m not a moderator doesn&#039;t mean I shouldn&#039;t tell you that you&#039;re not doing what&#039;s right and ask you to stop. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:And even then, why wouldn&#039;t I know how to interpret the rules? The rules are stated outright among various pages. This isn&#039;t some message board. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:51, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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In theory, you are right, but in practice that rarely works. If the user is a true vandal, just messing up the page for kicks, it won&#039;t have achieved anything, and may in fact motivate said vandal to keep it up. If it&#039;s just another user, then you run into a several other problems. You may not truly understand the full meaning of policy&#039;s, or if they are truly being violated, especially if it&#039;s a gray type of situation. In those situation, you may just achieve amnesty with a new user who was trying to help. Many people do not appreciate being told what to do by a person in a non-authoritative position, as you are essentially the same &amp;quot;rank&amp;quot; as them, you don&#039;t truly have the authority to make any real demands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most Admins are Admins for a reason, normally they are excellent editors but also, more importantly, they have excellent crisis situation skills and know how to handle problems users, or users who may simply of made a mistake. At most, a person in a non-authoritative position should ever directly do in a situation where they think someone is breaking policies, is politely inform them of the site policies, and if the situation continues, notify an Admin and let them handle it, as there is little else of use you can actually do.&lt;br /&gt;
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As to misinterpreting the rule, it&#039;s easy to do, as not every situation fit&#039;s into the set rules perfectly, many situation have grey aspects to them and are not always easily resolved by a set forth rule, and need some one in a position of authority to properly resolve the situation. --[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:TFWiki doesn&#039;t have a massive problem with non-admin users giving advice to new users if it&#039;s basic stuff like &#039;please don&#039;t remove captions/add scores of new captions&#039;. Admins aren&#039;t always around, and sometimes new users just need pointing to our policy pages. That being said, Escargon, you can sometimes be a bit quick to jump down people&#039;s throats over stuff like this. Please try and remain calm and courteous when engaging with other users. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 19:01, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Alright. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:04, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well how many Transformers Wiki&#039;s are their?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:29, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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==To-Do List==&lt;br /&gt;
===Operation: Screen Captures===&lt;br /&gt;
Screen cap (re)tagging:&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Generation 1 screen captures|G1]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:The Headmasters screen captures|Headmasters]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;/[[:Category:Super-God Masterforce screen captures|Masterforce]]/&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Victory screen captures|Victory]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;/&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Zone screen captures|Zone]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Beast Wars screen captures|Beast Wars]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;/&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Beast Machines screen captures|Beast Machines]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Robots in Disguise screen captures|Robots in Disguise]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Armada screen captures|Armada]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;/[[:Category:Energon screen captures|Energon]]/&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Cybertron screen captures|Cybertron]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Animated screen captures|Animated]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
====Pictures of unidentified origin====&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t know which episodes these are from - feel free to tag them with {{tl|MFcap}} or {{tl|Energoncap}} if you know!&lt;br /&gt;
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Image:Diver suiton.jpg|Diver from Masterforce&lt;br /&gt;
Image:EnergonGeneric.jpg|Some dude from Energon&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.bot-shots.com/check_list.php Bot Shots bios]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heatwave GB==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, abates. I was going to change Heatwave&#039;s GoBox to something I made from the Rescue Bots &#039;&#039;Memory&#039;&#039; game cards...&lt;br /&gt;
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... but I saw that you made the original GoBox, so I thought I&#039;d get your opinion on it first. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] ([[User talk:Monzo|talk]]) 11:39, 17 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sure, go for it! I&#039;ll make sure the version that appears on other sites updates. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:57, 17 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Could you fix this? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m regularising the Marvel UK cover filenames, but I accidentally just moved the #101 cover to [[:File:MarvelUK-102.jpg]]. Could you move it to [[:File:MarvelUK-101.jpg]] and delete the redirect so I can move the actual #102 cover there, please? Ta. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 19:17, 27 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:All done! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:24, 27 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hi ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello, thanks for the notice. I just fixed that up. ;-D --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 05:05, 4 February 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Awesome, thanks! :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 05:42, 4 February 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== About three users... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t want to sound overly cautious and paranoid, but it&#039;s bothered me for a while: Is it possible that [[Special:Contributions/Emperor_of_Terror_Scorponok|these]] [[Special:Contributions/Unicron_The_Chaos_Bringer|three]] [[Special:Contributions/Optimus_Prime_The_Savoir|users]] are one and the same? I mean, they feature similar styles of contributions, not to mention the names. Just putting this out there... --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 03:51, 29 March 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I did a checkuser and... yep, they&#039;re one and the same, as far as I can tell. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 04:01, 29 March 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s another one: Are these [[User:Noerk|two]] [[User:KirbyForce1|guys]] the same? I hope not... --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 18:02, 7 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I was wondering this myself a while ago. That the exact fan-art on Noerk&#039;s userpage can be found on KirbyForce1&#039;s deviantART page is kind of damning, unless Noerk was lying about the art being his. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 18:07, 7 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Naw, pretty sure they&#039;re different people. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:22, 7 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::PHEW! Thank goodness! --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 18:24, 7 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Could [[User:Ratchet0202]] be perma-banned [[User:Ironhide0202]]? Very similar names, very similar editing patterns. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 09:15, 11 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yep, it looks like! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 17:07, 11 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, abates, could you do another one? [[User:Energizer]] and [[User:SirSpoonwave]] have very similar posting habits, and it&#039;s making me suspicious.[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 22:53, 21 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:SirSpoonwave has not edited in a year and a half so any checkuser data is expired. In any case, it&#039;s not like either of them is a problem user. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 23:26, 21 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, could you run checkusers on [[User:Bruticus-Maxwell]] and [[User:JaAm-On-Toast]]? They seem likely candidates for KirbyForce sockpuppets... Cheers. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 17:26, 22 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Okay, yeah, they were KirbyForce. Just noticed [[User:SlimerJoel]] from a few days ago, though... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 17:54, 22 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Checkuser on SlimerJoel was inconclusive, unfortunately! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:46, 22 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Can you check [[User:Thunderstrike57]]? His/her edit to [[Drift (ROTF)]] makes me suspect KirbyForce again. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 07:11, 23 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Nope, doesn&#039;t look like that&#039;s him. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:37, 23 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Could you check this new Septesson guy? I think he&#039;s Norek. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 16:24, 28 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, I admit that perhaps I went a little overboard with the Interstellar Challenge course (as I admit of being afraid of too-small articles), thanks for refining it a bit.&lt;br /&gt;
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Double thanks for helping refine my articles and images :-) {{unsigned|Go(toby070)Bots}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:No problem! BTW, you should sign talk page comments by using &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; (or by using the squiggly signature button in the toolbar over the edit window. It&#039;s the one second from the right). --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 21:58, 4 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Add the Dinobots ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since you&#039;re in charge of the [[Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|Age of Extinction]] page, why aren&#039;t the other Dinobots Slug, Slash, and Scorn aren&#039;t in the chart full of characters? I made their pages if you haven&#039;t noticed. Can you please add the Dinobots? [[User:Movie09|Movie09]] ([[User talk:Movie09|talk]]) 09:05, 11 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:They&#039;re not on there because as far as I know, we haven&#039;t seen official confirmation they&#039;re in the movie. We&#039;ve only seen Grimlock and Strafe in trailers so far, and none of the Dinobots were in the list of voice actors revealed the other day. I&#039;m not in charge of the AOE page, but as it was locked down so only admins could edit it, I was trying to keep it as up to date as I could. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 17:03, 11 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Really sorry to use you as &#039;the checkuser guy&#039; again, but I rather suspect that [[User:AdrenntheMan]] might be [[User:OptimusPrime12]]/[[User:MetroPlex71]], not least because OptimusPrime12&#039;s email address began with &#039;Adrenn&#039;. Cheers. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 14:57, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yup! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:03, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Okay, this might just me being paranoid, but could you check [[User:JangoPrime365]] too? He registered an hour after Adrenntheman was blocked, his MO is similar, and he uploaded [[:File:Prime gets shotAOE.jpg]], which is identical in dimensions, size and metadata to [[:File:Optimus gets shot AOE.jpg]], uploaded by MetroPlex71... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 18:52, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Same useragent string plus the timing makes me think you&#039;re right. Something else that doesn&#039;t add up is that he claims on his talk page to be in Australia, but his IP address indicates he&#039;s editing from Austria. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:24, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::[http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/archive/2/2a/20140713004842%21Dreadwing_Rising_Storm_adaption.jpg *cough*] [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 20:58, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why are you guys so suspicious about me? Am I a wanted hacker or something. I was searching for administrators so I can know more about them, abates/you came first. I decided to read your page and I found this. I thought to myself, &amp;quot; Am I being accused that I&#039;m someone else?&amp;quot;. I didn&#039;t know what mo was so I looked it up. Now I know. I decided to mind my own business and upload a file of dreadwing. I didn&#039;t crop it right so it showed a couple of pages. So what? . I know how you guys are feeling. You guys don&#039;t trust because I&#039;m  the &amp;quot;New Guy&amp;quot;. Same thing happened on wookiepedia. Everyone was suspicious at me because they think I&#039;m dangerous or something, Get this, I&#039;m not. I&#039;m just new and I&#039;m trying to enjoy myself in here. So can you guys stop being paranoid and give me a boost up on this wiki? &lt;br /&gt;
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If you guys still don&#039;t trust me, feel free to kick me or remove out of this website, I&#039;ll understand.&lt;br /&gt;
:JangoPrime365&lt;br /&gt;
:You are not being suspected because you&#039;re a &amp;quot;new guy&amp;quot;, you are being suspected because your behavior is somewhat similar to a user who&#039;s been banned. In many wikis, it&#039;s not uncommon for a banned user to create a new account to try and bypass a ban, and our policy for ban evasion is &#039;&#039;always&#039;&#039; a permanent ban for every account the user has and will make. The sad part is that there are many instances when the ban is temporary, and the user could have simply waited for it to pass, rather than take the chance and be permanently banned. Just giving out the facts. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 02:26, 13 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I understand but  guys, don&#039;t accuse me of being someone else. I know the rules about the &amp;quot;only one account per person&amp;quot;. I don&#039;t create multiple accounts because I know it results into a ban. Being honest, I&#039;m one of the shy types. I don&#039;t want to get that much of attention from a group of people. It starts to make me uncomfortable and paranoid. So why accuse a new-timer rather than giving me tips and a head start on this wiki? .&lt;br /&gt;
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The captions were not informative as to what the content of the picture was. Image captions are meant to put an image into context of the page. The caption on the images I edited did not serve this purpose. I&#039;ve been here in the past and it is incredibly off putting to see image captions with jokes rather than information. It does not inspire confidence even if the content of the page is good. It makes it hard to take the site seriously as a information source, which is what all wiki based site really are.&lt;br /&gt;
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While I can understand the idea of trying to be light and a little humorous, I know that at least more than a few people find this incredibly off putting and unprofessional, which hurt&#039;s a site&#039;s like this ability to attract people to it. While the user&#039;s here may think it&#039;s funny, the average person who comes here will not appreciate it the same way, or may not understand the context of the joke, it can ruin the first impression make it so people may not come back. A large portion of people who come to wiki based sites are not hard core fans, but the casual viewer or someone who has a passing interest in the franchise, or is trying to get more information on something they may be missing context on. They aren&#039;t looking for jokes, they just want information. Another thing Humor is HIGHLY subjective to the individual, putting a joke on the main page of an article meant to be view by the general population in general is not a good idea, given that a lot of people won&#039;t even think it&#039;s funny, and if they they don&#039;t think it&#039;s funny, then they are probably just gonna think it&#039;s stupid, and that gives a bad impression of the site.&lt;br /&gt;
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But the biggest reason I&#039;m doing it is that the tone of image captions seems to be spilling over into actual article content. Image captioning is one thing, but the content of the article proper should only be factual information.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;d also like to note that at the time I edited the captions, I didn&#039;t not actually know the site made it a policy to have humorous captions, just so you know that I wasn&#039;t trying to make a point and be a menace or anything, everything I do is in an attempt to improve the quality of the site. --[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 16:21, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can I ask who are the Admin&#039;s here, for future reference?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:45, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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First, I would like to thank you for the list of Admins, it&#039;s always helpful to know who is in charge.&lt;br /&gt;
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Second, I don&#039;t want to be trouble maker, but I do feel the need to express my point of view on the subject in it&#039;s entirety. I just ask you let me say my piece, and If I if you don&#039;t agree with my views, that is fine, I won&#039;t push the issue after I&#039;ve made all my feeling known, but I do as that you listen and consider what I say. I have been a regular editor of a number of wiki based sites for years and have a good deal of experience on what works with a these sites and what doesn&#039;t, in general at least.&lt;br /&gt;
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First thing is that while the current community may like how it is, this in general makes it harder for a wiki to grow as a community, as you have become specialized to appeal larger base. While you may of noticed other wiki&#039;s using a similar type of system, that does not, by it&#039;s nature mean it&#039;s a good thing. Some wiki&#039;s are new and may only be copying the format of a larger more established site, like this one, but many more follow the more standard format. The site you should really be taking notes from are the largest and most successful one, as they are the ones that have manged to attract the most users to edit them and work on them, and almost all of the one&#039;s I&#039;ve seen that get that large follow a similar format to Wikipedia. While a more humor based system will appeal to some people, history shows that the more traditional format seems to attract more people.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, while I don&#039;t doubt that you have seen people in favor of this format, I feel like if you spread the question beyond the confines of this sites community, I do feel that the the number of people in favor of this would drop, as it is not the preferred format on most wiki based sites. This fact would indicate that it&#039;s not really popular in the larger online community.&lt;br /&gt;
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The other things, which I have mentioned before, if humor is highly subjective. I can personally say I do not find any of the captions I&#039;ve read funny, but I know I can&#039;t use that as a base for everyone else, but it shows an example of the intended idea of having something &amp;quot;funny&amp;quot;, can actually hurt the site. In real life, if you tell a joke, and it bombs, you normally end up embarrassing yourself, and I know that in my case it usually makes for a fairly awkward situation. Apply this to a wiki page, while you don&#039;t have the same embarrassed situation, it looks bad for the site as a whole. The more casual fan who just stop by maybe to look up an episodes list, or maybe needs a reference picture for something, reads one of these captions. Maybe they think it&#039;s funny, but the more likely response is confusion and not understanding why it&#039;s the way it is. If they don&#039;t know that the intention is a joke, it can result in confusion, or result in turning someone off to possibly joining the community.&lt;br /&gt;
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But here&#039;s one of the two my biggest issue in this situation. I&#039;d be able to take some humor based captions, but the humor based captions seem to be the rule rather than exception. Now I like to laugh as much as the next guy, but I do think that if you really want to keep some humor in the articles, it would work better in smaller portions. I think of it like hanging out with a guy who just doesn&#039;t know when to stop making jokes, yeah he&#039;s funny once in a while, but if everything out of his mouth is some kind of joke, it get&#039;s annoying. That&#039;s how it feels when I read pages, almost every image I see has some kind of joke on it, if it&#039;s got anything at all. I feel that if this how it&#039;s going to be, and I know think that it will be for a long time, that it should be done in moderation. As it stands right now, it kinda feels like that it keeps coming at you, while not fully providing context of the picture, which is my other biggest point.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some picture need to put in context. Take the page of [[Alexis Thi Dang]], near the end of the Armada section, their is a picture of her crying after Starscream died. Now, the caption reads &amp;quot;They told me mullets were making a comeback. They lied!&amp;quot;, not only does it sorta take the intended emotional impact of the scene out, but the image doesn&#039;t make sense to someone who hasn&#039;t seen the episode, or hasn&#039;t seen it in a long time. In general, this is something that needs to be addressed, some picture need to have context to make sense in the page. The Images real purpose to to give the reader a better insight into the articles content, they should compliment each other to give a better view what is being described in the article, and putting a joke caption in hurts or even robs it of the ability to do so, especially if the the person has not actually seen/read the materiel in question, it could be a picture of anything and any caption and ultimately have the same affect.&lt;br /&gt;
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So in conclusion, I don&#039;t think that the &amp;quot;humor&amp;quot; aspect will change in the near future. But I really do think it needs to be toned down at least and let being and informative site be at the for front of what the site is about. Let images have informative caption when necessary, and if people want to have their little jokes, fine, but I think the idea of having fun may of gone to far with the image captions and content and context is starting to suffer.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;d appreciate it if my opinion was genuinely considered, but even if it&#039;s not, I still felt the need to voice my opinion on the matter, and I hope you don&#039;t take any of this as a personal insult or attack, it&#039;s not intended to be.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 20:48, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Dude, stop. English names are not transferred across different characters. Big Convoy is not Big Prime. [[Gren]] is not Hook. Gaia Guardian is not Gaia Defensor, etc. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 21:50, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Big Convoy has never been named in English, Gren&#039;s never been named as that, and Gaia Guardian doesn&#039;t have an English name. Those examples don&#039;t work at all. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 21:55, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You are severely missing the point. The Kre-O character has no name, English or otherwise. All we have is the assumed intent of the writer (so, &amp;quot;Alexa&amp;quot;). What applies to the original character does not automatically apply to homages, as I&#039;ve shown with my examples.&lt;br /&gt;
::And, frankly, if you had an issue, a better method of action would have been discussing rather than automatically reverting the preference of the person taking the time to make those pages! [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 22:03, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Mimi has a point. using the Alexis/Alexa Kre-o as an  example; this wiki typically uses the Japanese name unless/until and  English name is made. So, while the Kre-O character  might be based  off Alexis from Armada, we must call her what the comic calls her. And since the comic calls her nothing, author intent is all we have to go on. I say stick with Alexa but keep the reference to  Alexis in the notes/[[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 22:27, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Eh. Whatever, I don&#039;t even know all that much about the Japanese names, so I&#039;m not the best one to ask about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 16:59, 15 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Give me a mistake in the paragraph please.[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Please don&#039;t say that being a woman is an insult.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:32, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For clarification, I think [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Waspinator_(BW)&amp;amp;curid=335&amp;amp;diff=828439&amp;amp;oldid=827733&amp;amp;rcid=666524 Supernova222] was the one who said it first. Just letting that out there. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 22:48, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I wasn&#039;t trying to sir. Inkblot is correct. I just undid my revision cause I wasn&#039;t sure if it was correct or not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:37, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:(sometimes I should just sit down and shut up.) [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:40, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You need to settle down just a little bit. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:34, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sorry, sir. I just got a bit too angry.[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 19:38, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please explain why you revert everything I contribute on this wiki?! - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 15:53, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The Ravage note was unessasary. The Team Prime image was fine, though you might want to move it to the episode section. Also, good job on editing the Soundwave ROTF page, the rape thing is one of the few PG-13 level things that is not accepted here. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 15:56, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Thanks. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 16:01, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Could you give me an example of a mistake in the paragraph in the AOE page? I checked it on EVERY grammar,punctuation and spell checker page to fix it. No problems... I even contacted my language arts teacher. No problem in the paragraph. It&#039;s getting a little bit fishy....[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Why did you remove my talk on the Knock Out page? I thought the talk pages were for disscussing changes? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:13, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re saying that being gay is a bad thing, and that is not acceptable. Quit it right now. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:15, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sorry, but being gay really is a bad thing, the Bible says so. But if the wiki community doesn&#039;t want it on there I won&#039;t add it again, okay? :) - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:19, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, it&#039;s not a bad thing. If you ever add that again, you will get into some major trouble. Now don&#039;t add it again. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:21, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Sorry, I won&#039;t add it again. But plz don&#039;t be so cross, I didn&#039;t know it was against the rules I&#039;m new here. what exactly do not mean &amp;quot;major trouble? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:24, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Being banned. Saying stuff like that is absolutely against the rules. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:29, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Okay, it&#039;s completely understood. :) But if I say &amp;quot;Bank robbers stink&amp;quot; is that okay? (Just thought I&#039;d better ask so I don&#039;t violate any more rules, LOL, not off to a very good start, am I? :))BTW, you got a YouTube channel friend? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:33, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::That is acceptable. And no, I don&#039;t. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:36, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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For the second time, chill. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:51, 5 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Zobovor]]&#039;s fake BW names on BW DVD ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for reverting my edit.  i really thought those were preliminary names for the BW characters!  --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:32, 25 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moving pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You realise that when you move pages, as you&#039;ve been doing when Kre-O cameos show up without even making a &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[x (Kre-O)]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; page, you&#039;re meant to fix the links to point to the new page, yes? [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Rattrap]] alone shows 333 &#039;&#039;mainspace&#039;&#039; links! (There&#039;s a reason for the bolded &amp;quot;Warning! This can be a drastic and unexpected change for a popular page; please be sure you understand the consequences of this before proceeding.&amp;quot; text!). - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 22:49, 24 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why did you revert my optimus prime edit and the edit someone else did? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:08, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For main images we use the first body or the body the characters had the most. Optimus Prime&#039;s appeared more in his body from the first three movies than the one from AOE, so we&#039;re sticking with the image we already had. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:11, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Would it not make sense to have a up to date image? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:16, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s not how it works. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:17, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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But shouldn&#039;t it be? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It would inform those not aware of the change, make the wiki seem up to date and would be a accurate representation of the character as he is now. --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:24, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Look, I didn&#039;t make the rules. You&#039;re going to have to ask someone like Itswalky, abates, or M Sipher about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:27, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Even then that image he uploaded is no good. Prime is smooshed in the center with all that wasted space on the big OPTIMUS PRIME in the background. We need a good clear shot of the character. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 19:14, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Vigilant Town ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Youtube version is actually edited in the last scene, explaining the Decepticon insignia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtEwQrlEAI4&lt;br /&gt;
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But the Hub network released this episode on their website, and most likely that&#039;s the original non-edited episode. http://www.hubnetwork.com/shows/transformers-rescue-bots/videos/full-episode-the-island-of-misfit-tech-episode-13-season-2&lt;br /&gt;
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Please check the differences before reverting. [[User:Klink|Klink]] ([[User talk:Klink|talk]]) 23:46, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wow, that Decepticon sigil was so blatantly edited in by someone else. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 23:57, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Eh. I hadn&#039;t seen the episode, and I&#039;d trusted abates judgement more than the newbie. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:59, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tenses==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, just a quick reminder that fiction sections need to be in the past tense. Thanks! [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 14:50, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, sorry about that. I&#039;ll remember next time! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:04, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Helloooo==&lt;br /&gt;
Hihi, I didn&#039;t realize there were any other translady editors of the TFWiki. Hello! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 19:06, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hello there! One of our admins is too, [[User:FortMax]]. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:39, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Embarrassing fact- she follows me on twitter, but I forgot she was an admin here, haha. Anyway, nice talkin to you, see you round the wiki! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 00:06, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Nice talking to you, too! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 11:59, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Response==&lt;br /&gt;
What are you specifically talking about.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The removal of the Scorn caption and comments you left on abates and Jalaguy&#039;s pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 17:35, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Scorn&#039;s caption does not come off as a joke, but at any rate, The Picture of Scorn is a concept art, and should be noted as such, given that concept art often does not share the same appearance of the final product. I&#039;m not necessarily opposed to humor by nature, but it shouldn&#039;t get in the way of information, on and information based site.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:56, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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EDIT:For future reference, when responding to a message, please leave it on the talk page of the person you are speaking to so they get a notification message.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, it really shouldn&#039;t. And no, that&#039;s not how it works either. You have to refresh talk pages and check recent changes to see if someone&#039;s updated a talk page. Don&#039;t put responses to things on your talk page to other people&#039;s talk pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:00, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why shouldn&#039;t it? It&#039;s the exact type of picture that needs context to explain it, official imaging that is altered or not representative of the final product.&lt;br /&gt;
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And, for the most part in my experience, wiki&#039;s use the method of response I use, as it guarantee&#039;s the user get&#039;s the message. Doing it the other way can lead to a number of complication, like the user not getting the message, or information being lost in communication.&lt;br /&gt;
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Final quick question, Are you an Admin or Mod?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:10, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, if they want to know what it is, they can just look at the description on the image itself. Stop trying to make the wiki work the wayt you want it to.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And I&#039;m not sure where you get that idea from. You&#039;re going to get the message, no matter what, Maybe it works that way at Wikia, but not here.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And no, I&#039;m not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:15, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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As you are not an Admin, I would like to ask you not to discuss this with me, as it&#039;s not really your place to. While I do appreciate the desire to look after a wiki that you contribute to, unless you are of a position of authority, trying to enforce any rule or policy will not result in desirable results, especially as the Admin&#039;s are the one who are really the one&#039;s to determine if a policy is being broken or not, and a standard user does not necessarily have the same ability to truly recognize this, and even if they do, they don&#039;t have the authority to do anything about it. For future references, if you think someone is breaking a policy or vandalizing pages, contact an Admin or site Mod, rather than taking matter&#039;s into your own hands, as this often does little to help the situation or can even make it worse.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:30, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:......It&#039;s a public forum. Just because I&#039;m not a moderator doesn&#039;t mean I shouldn&#039;t tell you that you&#039;re not doing what&#039;s right and ask you to stop. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:And even then, why wouldn&#039;t I know how to interpret the rules? The rules are stated outright among various pages. This isn&#039;t some message board. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:51, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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In theory, you are right, but in practice that rarely works. If the user is a true vandal, just messing up the page for kicks, it won&#039;t have achieved anything, and may in fact motivate said vandal to keep it up. If it&#039;s just another user, then you run into a several other problems. You may not truly understand the full meaning of policy&#039;s, or if they are truly being violated, especially if it&#039;s a gray type of situation. In those situation, you may just achieve amnesty with a new user who was trying to help. Many people do not appreciate being told what to do by a person in a non-authoritative position, as you are essentially the same &amp;quot;rank&amp;quot; as them, you don&#039;t truly have the authority to make any real demands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most Admins are Admins for a reason, normally they are excellent editors but also, more importantly, they have excellent crisis situation skills and know how to handle problems users, or users who may simply of made a mistake. At most, a person in a non-authoritative position should ever directly do in a situation where they think someone is breaking policies, is politely inform them of the site policies, and if the situation continues, notify an Admin and let them handle it, as there is little else of use you can actually do.&lt;br /&gt;
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As to misinterpreting the rule, it&#039;s easy to do, as not every situation fit&#039;s into the set rules perfectly, many situation have grey aspects to them and are not always easily resolved by a set forth rule, and need some one in a position of authority to properly resolve the situation. --[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;8492nd: /* Response */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Dude, stop. English names are not transferred across different characters. Big Convoy is not Big Prime. [[Gren]] is not Hook. Gaia Guardian is not Gaia Defensor, etc. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 21:50, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Big Convoy has never been named in English, Gren&#039;s never been named as that, and Gaia Guardian doesn&#039;t have an English name. Those examples don&#039;t work at all. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 21:55, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You are severely missing the point. The Kre-O character has no name, English or otherwise. All we have is the assumed intent of the writer (so, &amp;quot;Alexa&amp;quot;). What applies to the original character does not automatically apply to homages, as I&#039;ve shown with my examples.&lt;br /&gt;
::And, frankly, if you had an issue, a better method of action would have been discussing rather than automatically reverting the preference of the person taking the time to make those pages! [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 22:03, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Mimi has a point. using the Alexis/Alexa Kre-o as an  example; this wiki typically uses the Japanese name unless/until and  English name is made. So, while the Kre-O character  might be based  off Alexis from Armada, we must call her what the comic calls her. And since the comic calls her nothing, author intent is all we have to go on. I say stick with Alexa but keep the reference to  Alexis in the notes/[[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 22:27, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Eh. Whatever, I don&#039;t even know all that much about the Japanese names, so I&#039;m not the best one to ask about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 16:59, 15 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Give me a mistake in the paragraph please.[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Please don&#039;t say that being a woman is an insult.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:32, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For clarification, I think [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Waspinator_(BW)&amp;amp;curid=335&amp;amp;diff=828439&amp;amp;oldid=827733&amp;amp;rcid=666524 Supernova222] was the one who said it first. Just letting that out there. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 22:48, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I wasn&#039;t trying to sir. Inkblot is correct. I just undid my revision cause I wasn&#039;t sure if it was correct or not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:37, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:(sometimes I should just sit down and shut up.) [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:40, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You need to settle down just a little bit. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:34, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sorry, sir. I just got a bit too angry.[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 19:38, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please explain why you revert everything I contribute on this wiki?! - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 15:53, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The Ravage note was unessasary. The Team Prime image was fine, though you might want to move it to the episode section. Also, good job on editing the Soundwave ROTF page, the rape thing is one of the few PG-13 level things that is not accepted here. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 15:56, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Thanks. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 16:01, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Could you give me an example of a mistake in the paragraph in the AOE page? I checked it on EVERY grammar,punctuation and spell checker page to fix it. No problems... I even contacted my language arts teacher. No problem in the paragraph. It&#039;s getting a little bit fishy....[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Why did you remove my talk on the Knock Out page? I thought the talk pages were for disscussing changes? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:13, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re saying that being gay is a bad thing, and that is not acceptable. Quit it right now. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:15, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sorry, but being gay really is a bad thing, the Bible says so. But if the wiki community doesn&#039;t want it on there I won&#039;t add it again, okay? :) - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:19, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, it&#039;s not a bad thing. If you ever add that again, you will get into some major trouble. Now don&#039;t add it again. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:21, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Sorry, I won&#039;t add it again. But plz don&#039;t be so cross, I didn&#039;t know it was against the rules I&#039;m new here. what exactly do not mean &amp;quot;major trouble? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:24, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Being banned. Saying stuff like that is absolutely against the rules. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:29, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Okay, it&#039;s completely understood. :) But if I say &amp;quot;Bank robbers stink&amp;quot; is that okay? (Just thought I&#039;d better ask so I don&#039;t violate any more rules, LOL, not off to a very good start, am I? :))BTW, you got a YouTube channel friend? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:33, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::That is acceptable. And no, I don&#039;t. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:36, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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For the second time, chill. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:51, 5 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Zobovor]]&#039;s fake BW names on BW DVD ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for reverting my edit.  i really thought those were preliminary names for the BW characters!  --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:32, 25 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moving pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You realise that when you move pages, as you&#039;ve been doing when Kre-O cameos show up without even making a &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[x (Kre-O)]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; page, you&#039;re meant to fix the links to point to the new page, yes? [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Rattrap]] alone shows 333 &#039;&#039;mainspace&#039;&#039; links! (There&#039;s a reason for the bolded &amp;quot;Warning! This can be a drastic and unexpected change for a popular page; please be sure you understand the consequences of this before proceeding.&amp;quot; text!). - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 22:49, 24 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=Prime image=&lt;br /&gt;
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Why did you revert my optimus prime edit and the edit someone else did? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:08, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For main images we use the first body or the body the characters had the most. Optimus Prime&#039;s appeared more in his body from the first three movies than the one from AOE, so we&#039;re sticking with the image we already had. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:11, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Would it not make sense to have a up to date image? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:16, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s not how it works. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:17, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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But shouldn&#039;t it be? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It would inform those not aware of the change, make the wiki seem up to date and would be a accurate representation of the character as he is now. --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:24, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Look, I didn&#039;t make the rules. You&#039;re going to have to ask someone like Itswalky, abates, or M Sipher about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:27, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Even then that image he uploaded is no good. Prime is smooshed in the center with all that wasted space on the big OPTIMUS PRIME in the background. We need a good clear shot of the character. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 19:14, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Vigilant Town ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Youtube version is actually edited in the last scene, explaining the Decepticon insignia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtEwQrlEAI4&lt;br /&gt;
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But the Hub network released this episode on their website, and most likely that&#039;s the original non-edited episode. http://www.hubnetwork.com/shows/transformers-rescue-bots/videos/full-episode-the-island-of-misfit-tech-episode-13-season-2&lt;br /&gt;
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Please check the differences before reverting. [[User:Klink|Klink]] ([[User talk:Klink|talk]]) 23:46, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wow, that Decepticon sigil was so blatantly edited in by someone else. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 23:57, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Eh. I hadn&#039;t seen the episode, and I&#039;d trusted abates judgement more than the newbie. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:59, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tenses==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, just a quick reminder that fiction sections need to be in the past tense. Thanks! [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 14:50, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, sorry about that. I&#039;ll remember next time! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:04, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Helloooo==&lt;br /&gt;
Hihi, I didn&#039;t realize there were any other translady editors of the TFWiki. Hello! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 19:06, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hello there! One of our admins is too, [[User:FortMax]]. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:39, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Embarrassing fact- she follows me on twitter, but I forgot she was an admin here, haha. Anyway, nice talkin to you, see you round the wiki! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 00:06, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Nice talking to you, too! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 11:59, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Response==&lt;br /&gt;
What are you specifically talking about.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The removal of the Scorn caption and comments you left on abates and Jalaguy&#039;s pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 17:35, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Scorn&#039;s caption does not come off as a joke, but at any rate, The Picture of Scorn is a concept art, and should be noted as such, given that concept art often does not share the same appearance of the final product. I&#039;m not necessarily opposed to humor by nature, but it shouldn&#039;t get in the way of information, on and information based site.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:56, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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EDIT:For future reference, when responding to a message, please leave it on the talk page of the person you are speaking to so they get a notification message.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, it really shouldn&#039;t. And no, that&#039;s not how it works either. You have to refresh talk pages and check recent changes to see if someone&#039;s updated a talk page. Don&#039;t put responses to things on your talk page to other people&#039;s talk pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:00, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why shouldn&#039;t it? It&#039;s the exact type of picture that needs context to explain it, official imaging that is altered or not representative of the final product.&lt;br /&gt;
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And, for the most part in my experience, wiki&#039;s use the method of response I use, as it guarantee&#039;s the user get&#039;s the message. Doing it the other way can lead to a number of complication, like the user not getting the message, or information being lost in communication.&lt;br /&gt;
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Final quick question, Are you an Admin or Mod?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:10, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, if they want to know what it is, they can just look at the description on the image itself. Stop trying to make the wiki work the wayt you want it to.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And I&#039;m not sure where you get that idea from. You&#039;re going to get the message, no matter what, Maybe it works that way at Wikia, but not here.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And no, I&#039;m not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:15, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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As you are not an Admin, I would like to ask you not to discuss this with me, as it&#039;s not really your place to. While I do appreciate the desire to look after a wiki that you contribute to, unless you are of a position of authority, trying to enforce any rule or policy will not result in desirable results, especially as the Admin&#039;s are the one who are really the one&#039;s to determine if a policy is being broken or not, and a standard user does not necessarily have the same ability to truly recognize this, and even if they do, they don&#039;t have the authority to do anything about it. For future references, if you think someone is breaking a policy or vandalizing pages, contact an Admin or site Mod, rather than taking matter&#039;s into your own hands, as this often does little to help the situation or can even make it worse.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:30, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Dude, stop. English names are not transferred across different characters. Big Convoy is not Big Prime. [[Gren]] is not Hook. Gaia Guardian is not Gaia Defensor, etc. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 21:50, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Big Convoy has never been named in English, Gren&#039;s never been named as that, and Gaia Guardian doesn&#039;t have an English name. Those examples don&#039;t work at all. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 21:55, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You are severely missing the point. The Kre-O character has no name, English or otherwise. All we have is the assumed intent of the writer (so, &amp;quot;Alexa&amp;quot;). What applies to the original character does not automatically apply to homages, as I&#039;ve shown with my examples.&lt;br /&gt;
::And, frankly, if you had an issue, a better method of action would have been discussing rather than automatically reverting the preference of the person taking the time to make those pages! [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 22:03, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Mimi has a point. using the Alexis/Alexa Kre-o as an  example; this wiki typically uses the Japanese name unless/until and  English name is made. So, while the Kre-O character  might be based  off Alexis from Armada, we must call her what the comic calls her. And since the comic calls her nothing, author intent is all we have to go on. I say stick with Alexa but keep the reference to  Alexis in the notes/[[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 22:27, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Eh. Whatever, I don&#039;t even know all that much about the Japanese names, so I&#039;m not the best one to ask about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 16:59, 15 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Give me a mistake in the paragraph please.[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Please don&#039;t say that being a woman is an insult.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:32, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For clarification, I think [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Waspinator_(BW)&amp;amp;curid=335&amp;amp;diff=828439&amp;amp;oldid=827733&amp;amp;rcid=666524 Supernova222] was the one who said it first. Just letting that out there. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 22:48, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I wasn&#039;t trying to sir. Inkblot is correct. I just undid my revision cause I wasn&#039;t sure if it was correct or not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:37, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:(sometimes I should just sit down and shut up.) [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:40, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You need to settle down just a little bit. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:34, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sorry, sir. I just got a bit too angry.[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 19:38, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please explain why you revert everything I contribute on this wiki?! - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 15:53, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The Ravage note was unessasary. The Team Prime image was fine, though you might want to move it to the episode section. Also, good job on editing the Soundwave ROTF page, the rape thing is one of the few PG-13 level things that is not accepted here. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 15:56, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Thanks. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 16:01, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Could you give me an example of a mistake in the paragraph in the AOE page? I checked it on EVERY grammar,punctuation and spell checker page to fix it. No problems... I even contacted my language arts teacher. No problem in the paragraph. It&#039;s getting a little bit fishy....[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Why did you remove my talk on the Knock Out page? I thought the talk pages were for disscussing changes? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:13, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re saying that being gay is a bad thing, and that is not acceptable. Quit it right now. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:15, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sorry, but being gay really is a bad thing, the Bible says so. But if the wiki community doesn&#039;t want it on there I won&#039;t add it again, okay? :) - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:19, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, it&#039;s not a bad thing. If you ever add that again, you will get into some major trouble. Now don&#039;t add it again. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:21, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Sorry, I won&#039;t add it again. But plz don&#039;t be so cross, I didn&#039;t know it was against the rules I&#039;m new here. what exactly do not mean &amp;quot;major trouble? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:24, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Being banned. Saying stuff like that is absolutely against the rules. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:29, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Okay, it&#039;s completely understood. :) But if I say &amp;quot;Bank robbers stink&amp;quot; is that okay? (Just thought I&#039;d better ask so I don&#039;t violate any more rules, LOL, not off to a very good start, am I? :))BTW, you got a YouTube channel friend? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:33, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::That is acceptable. And no, I don&#039;t. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:36, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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For the second time, chill. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:51, 5 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Zobovor]]&#039;s fake BW names on BW DVD ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for reverting my edit.  i really thought those were preliminary names for the BW characters!  --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:32, 25 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moving pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You realise that when you move pages, as you&#039;ve been doing when Kre-O cameos show up without even making a &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[x (Kre-O)]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; page, you&#039;re meant to fix the links to point to the new page, yes? [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Rattrap]] alone shows 333 &#039;&#039;mainspace&#039;&#039; links! (There&#039;s a reason for the bolded &amp;quot;Warning! This can be a drastic and unexpected change for a popular page; please be sure you understand the consequences of this before proceeding.&amp;quot; text!). - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 22:49, 24 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=Prime image=&lt;br /&gt;
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Why did you revert my optimus prime edit and the edit someone else did? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:08, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For main images we use the first body or the body the characters had the most. Optimus Prime&#039;s appeared more in his body from the first three movies than the one from AOE, so we&#039;re sticking with the image we already had. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:11, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Would it not make sense to have a up to date image? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:16, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s not how it works. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:17, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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But shouldn&#039;t it be? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It would inform those not aware of the change, make the wiki seem up to date and would be a accurate representation of the character as he is now. --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:24, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Look, I didn&#039;t make the rules. You&#039;re going to have to ask someone like Itswalky, abates, or M Sipher about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:27, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Even then that image he uploaded is no good. Prime is smooshed in the center with all that wasted space on the big OPTIMUS PRIME in the background. We need a good clear shot of the character. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 19:14, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Vigilant Town ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Youtube version is actually edited in the last scene, explaining the Decepticon insignia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtEwQrlEAI4&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But the Hub network released this episode on their website, and most likely that&#039;s the original non-edited episode. http://www.hubnetwork.com/shows/transformers-rescue-bots/videos/full-episode-the-island-of-misfit-tech-episode-13-season-2&lt;br /&gt;
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Please check the differences before reverting. [[User:Klink|Klink]] ([[User talk:Klink|talk]]) 23:46, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wow, that Decepticon sigil was so blatantly edited in by someone else. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 23:57, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Eh. I hadn&#039;t seen the episode, and I&#039;d trusted abates judgement more than the newbie. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:59, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tenses==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, just a quick reminder that fiction sections need to be in the past tense. Thanks! [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 14:50, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, sorry about that. I&#039;ll remember next time! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:04, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Helloooo==&lt;br /&gt;
Hihi, I didn&#039;t realize there were any other translady editors of the TFWiki. Hello! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 19:06, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hello there! One of our admins is too, [[User:FortMax]]. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:39, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Embarrassing fact- she follows me on twitter, but I forgot she was an admin here, haha. Anyway, nice talkin to you, see you round the wiki! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 00:06, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Nice talking to you, too! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 11:59, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Response==&lt;br /&gt;
What are you specifically talking about.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The removal of the Scorn caption and comments you left on abates and Jalaguy&#039;s pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 17:35, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Scorn&#039;s caption does not come off as a joke, but at any rate, The Picture of Scorn is a concept art, and should be noted as such, given that concept art often does not share the same appearance of the final product. I&#039;m not necessarily opposed to humor by nature, but it shouldn&#039;t get in the way of information, on and information based site.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:56, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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EDIT:For future reference, when responding to a message, please leave it on the talk page of the person you are speaking to so they get a notification message.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, it really shouldn&#039;t. And no, that&#039;s not how it works either. You have to refresh talk pages and check recent changes to see if someone&#039;s updated a talk page. Don&#039;t put responses to things on your talk page to other people&#039;s talk pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:00, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why shouldn&#039;t it? It&#039;s the exact type of picture that needs context to explain it, official imaging that is altered or not representative of the final product.&lt;br /&gt;
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And, for the most part in my experience, wiki&#039;s use the method of response I use, as it guarantee&#039;s the user get&#039;s the message. Doing it the other way can lead to a number of complication, like the user not getting the message, or information being lost in communication.&lt;br /&gt;
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Final quick question, Are you an Admin or Mod?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:10, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Dude, stop. English names are not transferred across different characters. Big Convoy is not Big Prime. [[Gren]] is not Hook. Gaia Guardian is not Gaia Defensor, etc. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 21:50, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Big Convoy has never been named in English, Gren&#039;s never been named as that, and Gaia Guardian doesn&#039;t have an English name. Those examples don&#039;t work at all. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 21:55, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You are severely missing the point. The Kre-O character has no name, English or otherwise. All we have is the assumed intent of the writer (so, &amp;quot;Alexa&amp;quot;). What applies to the original character does not automatically apply to homages, as I&#039;ve shown with my examples.&lt;br /&gt;
::And, frankly, if you had an issue, a better method of action would have been discussing rather than automatically reverting the preference of the person taking the time to make those pages! [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 22:03, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Mimi has a point. using the Alexis/Alexa Kre-o as an  example; this wiki typically uses the Japanese name unless/until and  English name is made. So, while the Kre-O character  might be based  off Alexis from Armada, we must call her what the comic calls her. And since the comic calls her nothing, author intent is all we have to go on. I say stick with Alexa but keep the reference to  Alexis in the notes/[[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 22:27, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Eh. Whatever, I don&#039;t even know all that much about the Japanese names, so I&#039;m not the best one to ask about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 16:59, 15 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Give me a mistake in the paragraph please.[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Please don&#039;t say that being a woman is an insult.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:32, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For clarification, I think [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Waspinator_(BW)&amp;amp;curid=335&amp;amp;diff=828439&amp;amp;oldid=827733&amp;amp;rcid=666524 Supernova222] was the one who said it first. Just letting that out there. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 22:48, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I wasn&#039;t trying to sir. Inkblot is correct. I just undid my revision cause I wasn&#039;t sure if it was correct or not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:37, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:(sometimes I should just sit down and shut up.) [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:40, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You need to settle down just a little bit. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:34, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sorry, sir. I just got a bit too angry.[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 19:38, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please explain why you revert everything I contribute on this wiki?! - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 15:53, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The Ravage note was unessasary. The Team Prime image was fine, though you might want to move it to the episode section. Also, good job on editing the Soundwave ROTF page, the rape thing is one of the few PG-13 level things that is not accepted here. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 15:56, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Thanks. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 16:01, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Could you give me an example of a mistake in the paragraph in the AOE page? I checked it on EVERY grammar,punctuation and spell checker page to fix it. No problems... I even contacted my language arts teacher. No problem in the paragraph. It&#039;s getting a little bit fishy....[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Why did you remove my talk on the Knock Out page? I thought the talk pages were for disscussing changes? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:13, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re saying that being gay is a bad thing, and that is not acceptable. Quit it right now. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:15, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sorry, but being gay really is a bad thing, the Bible says so. But if the wiki community doesn&#039;t want it on there I won&#039;t add it again, okay? :) - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:19, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, it&#039;s not a bad thing. If you ever add that again, you will get into some major trouble. Now don&#039;t add it again. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:21, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Sorry, I won&#039;t add it again. But plz don&#039;t be so cross, I didn&#039;t know it was against the rules I&#039;m new here. what exactly do not mean &amp;quot;major trouble? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:24, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Being banned. Saying stuff like that is absolutely against the rules. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:29, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Okay, it&#039;s completely understood. :) But if I say &amp;quot;Bank robbers stink&amp;quot; is that okay? (Just thought I&#039;d better ask so I don&#039;t violate any more rules, LOL, not off to a very good start, am I? :))BTW, you got a YouTube channel friend? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:33, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::That is acceptable. And no, I don&#039;t. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:36, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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For the second time, chill. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:51, 5 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Zobovor]]&#039;s fake BW names on BW DVD ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for reverting my edit.  i really thought those were preliminary names for the BW characters!  --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:32, 25 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moving pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You realise that when you move pages, as you&#039;ve been doing when Kre-O cameos show up without even making a &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[x (Kre-O)]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; page, you&#039;re meant to fix the links to point to the new page, yes? [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Rattrap]] alone shows 333 &#039;&#039;mainspace&#039;&#039; links! (There&#039;s a reason for the bolded &amp;quot;Warning! This can be a drastic and unexpected change for a popular page; please be sure you understand the consequences of this before proceeding.&amp;quot; text!). - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 22:49, 24 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=Prime image=&lt;br /&gt;
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Why did you revert my optimus prime edit and the edit someone else did? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:08, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For main images we use the first body or the body the characters had the most. Optimus Prime&#039;s appeared more in his body from the first three movies than the one from AOE, so we&#039;re sticking with the image we already had. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:11, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Would it not make sense to have a up to date image? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:16, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s not how it works. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:17, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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But shouldn&#039;t it be? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It would inform those not aware of the change, make the wiki seem up to date and would be a accurate representation of the character as he is now. --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:24, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Look, I didn&#039;t make the rules. You&#039;re going to have to ask someone like Itswalky, abates, or M Sipher about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:27, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Even then that image he uploaded is no good. Prime is smooshed in the center with all that wasted space on the big OPTIMUS PRIME in the background. We need a good clear shot of the character. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 19:14, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Vigilant Town ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Youtube version is actually edited in the last scene, explaining the Decepticon insignia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtEwQrlEAI4&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But the Hub network released this episode on their website, and most likely that&#039;s the original non-edited episode. http://www.hubnetwork.com/shows/transformers-rescue-bots/videos/full-episode-the-island-of-misfit-tech-episode-13-season-2&lt;br /&gt;
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Please check the differences before reverting. [[User:Klink|Klink]] ([[User talk:Klink|talk]]) 23:46, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wow, that Decepticon sigil was so blatantly edited in by someone else. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 23:57, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Eh. I hadn&#039;t seen the episode, and I&#039;d trusted abates judgement more than the newbie. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:59, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tenses==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, just a quick reminder that fiction sections need to be in the past tense. Thanks! [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 14:50, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, sorry about that. I&#039;ll remember next time! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:04, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Helloooo==&lt;br /&gt;
Hihi, I didn&#039;t realize there were any other translady editors of the TFWiki. Hello! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 19:06, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hello there! One of our admins is too, [[User:FortMax]]. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:39, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Embarrassing fact- she follows me on twitter, but I forgot she was an admin here, haha. Anyway, nice talkin to you, see you round the wiki! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 00:06, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Nice talking to you, too! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 11:59, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Response==&lt;br /&gt;
What are you specifically talking about.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The removal of the Scorn caption and comments you left on abates and Jalaguy&#039;s pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 17:35, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Scorn&#039;s caption does not come off as a joke, but at any rate, The Picture of Scorn is a concept art, and should be noted as such, given that concept art often does not share the same appearance of the final product. I&#039;m not necessarily opposed to humor by nature, but it shouldn&#039;t get in the way of information, on and information based site.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:56, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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EDIT:For future reference, when responding to a message, please leave it on the talk page of the person you are speaking to so they get a notification message.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Escargon&amp;diff=885064</id>
		<title>User talk:Escargon</title>
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		<updated>2014-07-18T21:56:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;8492nd: /* Response */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Dude, stop. English names are not transferred across different characters. Big Convoy is not Big Prime. [[Gren]] is not Hook. Gaia Guardian is not Gaia Defensor, etc. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 21:50, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Big Convoy has never been named in English, Gren&#039;s never been named as that, and Gaia Guardian doesn&#039;t have an English name. Those examples don&#039;t work at all. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 21:55, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You are severely missing the point. The Kre-O character has no name, English or otherwise. All we have is the assumed intent of the writer (so, &amp;quot;Alexa&amp;quot;). What applies to the original character does not automatically apply to homages, as I&#039;ve shown with my examples.&lt;br /&gt;
::And, frankly, if you had an issue, a better method of action would have been discussing rather than automatically reverting the preference of the person taking the time to make those pages! [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 22:03, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Mimi has a point. using the Alexis/Alexa Kre-o as an  example; this wiki typically uses the Japanese name unless/until and  English name is made. So, while the Kre-O character  might be based  off Alexis from Armada, we must call her what the comic calls her. And since the comic calls her nothing, author intent is all we have to go on. I say stick with Alexa but keep the reference to  Alexis in the notes/[[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 22:27, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Eh. Whatever, I don&#039;t even know all that much about the Japanese names, so I&#039;m not the best one to ask about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 16:59, 15 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Give me a mistake in the paragraph please.[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Please don&#039;t say that being a woman is an insult.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:32, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For clarification, I think [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Waspinator_(BW)&amp;amp;curid=335&amp;amp;diff=828439&amp;amp;oldid=827733&amp;amp;rcid=666524 Supernova222] was the one who said it first. Just letting that out there. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 22:48, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I wasn&#039;t trying to sir. Inkblot is correct. I just undid my revision cause I wasn&#039;t sure if it was correct or not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:37, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:(sometimes I should just sit down and shut up.) [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:40, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You need to settle down just a little bit. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:34, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sorry, sir. I just got a bit too angry.[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 19:38, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please explain why you revert everything I contribute on this wiki?! - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 15:53, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The Ravage note was unessasary. The Team Prime image was fine, though you might want to move it to the episode section. Also, good job on editing the Soundwave ROTF page, the rape thing is one of the few PG-13 level things that is not accepted here. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 15:56, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Thanks. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 16:01, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Could you give me an example of a mistake in the paragraph in the AOE page? I checked it on EVERY grammar,punctuation and spell checker page to fix it. No problems... I even contacted my language arts teacher. No problem in the paragraph. It&#039;s getting a little bit fishy....[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Why did you remove my talk on the Knock Out page? I thought the talk pages were for disscussing changes? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:13, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re saying that being gay is a bad thing, and that is not acceptable. Quit it right now. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:15, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sorry, but being gay really is a bad thing, the Bible says so. But if the wiki community doesn&#039;t want it on there I won&#039;t add it again, okay? :) - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:19, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, it&#039;s not a bad thing. If you ever add that again, you will get into some major trouble. Now don&#039;t add it again. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:21, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Sorry, I won&#039;t add it again. But plz don&#039;t be so cross, I didn&#039;t know it was against the rules I&#039;m new here. what exactly do not mean &amp;quot;major trouble? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:24, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Being banned. Saying stuff like that is absolutely against the rules. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:29, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Okay, it&#039;s completely understood. :) But if I say &amp;quot;Bank robbers stink&amp;quot; is that okay? (Just thought I&#039;d better ask so I don&#039;t violate any more rules, LOL, not off to a very good start, am I? :))BTW, you got a YouTube channel friend? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:33, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::That is acceptable. And no, I don&#039;t. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:36, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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For the second time, chill. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:51, 5 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Zobovor]]&#039;s fake BW names on BW DVD ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for reverting my edit.  i really thought those were preliminary names for the BW characters!  --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:32, 25 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moving pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You realise that when you move pages, as you&#039;ve been doing when Kre-O cameos show up without even making a &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[x (Kre-O)]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; page, you&#039;re meant to fix the links to point to the new page, yes? [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Rattrap]] alone shows 333 &#039;&#039;mainspace&#039;&#039; links! (There&#039;s a reason for the bolded &amp;quot;Warning! This can be a drastic and unexpected change for a popular page; please be sure you understand the consequences of this before proceeding.&amp;quot; text!). - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 22:49, 24 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=Prime image=&lt;br /&gt;
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Why did you revert my optimus prime edit and the edit someone else did? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:08, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For main images we use the first body or the body the characters had the most. Optimus Prime&#039;s appeared more in his body from the first three movies than the one from AOE, so we&#039;re sticking with the image we already had. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:11, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Would it not make sense to have a up to date image? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:16, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s not how it works. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:17, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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But shouldn&#039;t it be? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It would inform those not aware of the change, make the wiki seem up to date and would be a accurate representation of the character as he is now. --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:24, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Look, I didn&#039;t make the rules. You&#039;re going to have to ask someone like Itswalky, abates, or M Sipher about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:27, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Even then that image he uploaded is no good. Prime is smooshed in the center with all that wasted space on the big OPTIMUS PRIME in the background. We need a good clear shot of the character. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 19:14, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Vigilant Town ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Youtube version is actually edited in the last scene, explaining the Decepticon insignia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtEwQrlEAI4&lt;br /&gt;
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But the Hub network released this episode on their website, and most likely that&#039;s the original non-edited episode. http://www.hubnetwork.com/shows/transformers-rescue-bots/videos/full-episode-the-island-of-misfit-tech-episode-13-season-2&lt;br /&gt;
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Please check the differences before reverting. [[User:Klink|Klink]] ([[User talk:Klink|talk]]) 23:46, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wow, that Decepticon sigil was so blatantly edited in by someone else. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 23:57, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Eh. I hadn&#039;t seen the episode, and I&#039;d trusted abates judgement more than the newbie. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:59, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tenses==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, just a quick reminder that fiction sections need to be in the past tense. Thanks! [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 14:50, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, sorry about that. I&#039;ll remember next time! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:04, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Helloooo==&lt;br /&gt;
Hihi, I didn&#039;t realize there were any other translady editors of the TFWiki. Hello! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 19:06, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hello there! One of our admins is too, [[User:FortMax]]. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:39, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Embarrassing fact- she follows me on twitter, but I forgot she was an admin here, haha. Anyway, nice talkin to you, see you round the wiki! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 00:06, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Nice talking to you, too! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 11:59, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Response==&lt;br /&gt;
What are you specifically talking about.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The removal of the Scorn caption and comments you left on abates and Jalaguy&#039;s pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 17:35, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Scorn&#039;s caption does not come off as a joke, but at any rate, The Picture of Scorn is a concept art, and should be noted as such, given that concept art often does not share the same appearance of the final product. I&#039;m not necessarily opposed to humor by nature, but it shouldn&#039;t get in the way of information, on and information based site.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:56, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Abates&amp;diff=885063</id>
		<title>User talk:Abates</title>
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		<updated>2014-07-18T21:45:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;8492nd: /* Response */&lt;/p&gt;
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[[/Archive 4|Archive 4]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==To-Do List==&lt;br /&gt;
===Operation: Screen Captures===&lt;br /&gt;
Screen cap (re)tagging:&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Generation 1 screen captures|G1]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:The Headmasters screen captures|Headmasters]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;/[[:Category:Super-God Masterforce screen captures|Masterforce]]/&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Victory screen captures|Victory]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;/&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Zone screen captures|Zone]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Beast Wars screen captures|Beast Wars]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;/&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Beast Machines screen captures|Beast Machines]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Robots in Disguise screen captures|Robots in Disguise]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Armada screen captures|Armada]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;/[[:Category:Energon screen captures|Energon]]/&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Cybertron screen captures|Cybertron]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Animated screen captures|Animated]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
====Pictures of unidentified origin====&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t know which episodes these are from - feel free to tag them with {{tl|MFcap}} or {{tl|Energoncap}} if you know!&lt;br /&gt;
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Image:Diver suiton.jpg|Diver from Masterforce&lt;br /&gt;
Image:EnergonGeneric.jpg|Some dude from Energon&lt;br /&gt;
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===Useful URLs===&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.bot-shots.com/check_list.php Bot Shots bios]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heatwave GB==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, abates. I was going to change Heatwave&#039;s GoBox to something I made from the Rescue Bots &#039;&#039;Memory&#039;&#039; game cards...&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://obscuretf.com/GB-RBHeatwave2.jpg]&lt;br /&gt;
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... but I saw that you made the original GoBox, so I thought I&#039;d get your opinion on it first. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] ([[User talk:Monzo|talk]]) 11:39, 17 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sure, go for it! I&#039;ll make sure the version that appears on other sites updates. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:57, 17 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Could you fix this? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m regularising the Marvel UK cover filenames, but I accidentally just moved the #101 cover to [[:File:MarvelUK-102.jpg]]. Could you move it to [[:File:MarvelUK-101.jpg]] and delete the redirect so I can move the actual #102 cover there, please? Ta. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 19:17, 27 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:All done! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:24, 27 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hi ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello, thanks for the notice. I just fixed that up. ;-D --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 05:05, 4 February 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Awesome, thanks! :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 05:42, 4 February 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== About three users... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t want to sound overly cautious and paranoid, but it&#039;s bothered me for a while: Is it possible that [[Special:Contributions/Emperor_of_Terror_Scorponok|these]] [[Special:Contributions/Unicron_The_Chaos_Bringer|three]] [[Special:Contributions/Optimus_Prime_The_Savoir|users]] are one and the same? I mean, they feature similar styles of contributions, not to mention the names. Just putting this out there... --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 03:51, 29 March 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I did a checkuser and... yep, they&#039;re one and the same, as far as I can tell. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 04:01, 29 March 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s another one: Are these [[User:Noerk|two]] [[User:KirbyForce1|guys]] the same? I hope not... --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 18:02, 7 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I was wondering this myself a while ago. That the exact fan-art on Noerk&#039;s userpage can be found on KirbyForce1&#039;s deviantART page is kind of damning, unless Noerk was lying about the art being his. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 18:07, 7 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Naw, pretty sure they&#039;re different people. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:22, 7 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::PHEW! Thank goodness! --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 18:24, 7 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Could [[User:Ratchet0202]] be perma-banned [[User:Ironhide0202]]? Very similar names, very similar editing patterns. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 09:15, 11 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yep, it looks like! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 17:07, 11 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, abates, could you do another one? [[User:Energizer]] and [[User:SirSpoonwave]] have very similar posting habits, and it&#039;s making me suspicious.[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 22:53, 21 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:SirSpoonwave has not edited in a year and a half so any checkuser data is expired. In any case, it&#039;s not like either of them is a problem user. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 23:26, 21 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, could you run checkusers on [[User:Bruticus-Maxwell]] and [[User:JaAm-On-Toast]]? They seem likely candidates for KirbyForce sockpuppets... Cheers. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 17:26, 22 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Okay, yeah, they were KirbyForce. Just noticed [[User:SlimerJoel]] from a few days ago, though... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 17:54, 22 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Checkuser on SlimerJoel was inconclusive, unfortunately! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:46, 22 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Can you check [[User:Thunderstrike57]]? His/her edit to [[Drift (ROTF)]] makes me suspect KirbyForce again. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 07:11, 23 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Nope, doesn&#039;t look like that&#039;s him. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:37, 23 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Could you check this new Septesson guy? I think he&#039;s Norek. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 16:24, 28 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, I admit that perhaps I went a little overboard with the Interstellar Challenge course (as I admit of being afraid of too-small articles), thanks for refining it a bit.&lt;br /&gt;
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Double thanks for helping refine my articles and images :-) {{unsigned|Go(toby070)Bots}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:No problem! BTW, you should sign talk page comments by using &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; (or by using the squiggly signature button in the toolbar over the edit window. It&#039;s the one second from the right). --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 21:58, 4 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Add the Dinobots ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since you&#039;re in charge of the [[Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|Age of Extinction]] page, why aren&#039;t the other Dinobots Slug, Slash, and Scorn aren&#039;t in the chart full of characters? I made their pages if you haven&#039;t noticed. Can you please add the Dinobots? [[User:Movie09|Movie09]] ([[User talk:Movie09|talk]]) 09:05, 11 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:They&#039;re not on there because as far as I know, we haven&#039;t seen official confirmation they&#039;re in the movie. We&#039;ve only seen Grimlock and Strafe in trailers so far, and none of the Dinobots were in the list of voice actors revealed the other day. I&#039;m not in charge of the AOE page, but as it was locked down so only admins could edit it, I was trying to keep it as up to date as I could. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 17:03, 11 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Checkuser==&lt;br /&gt;
Really sorry to use you as &#039;the checkuser guy&#039; again, but I rather suspect that [[User:AdrenntheMan]] might be [[User:OptimusPrime12]]/[[User:MetroPlex71]], not least because OptimusPrime12&#039;s email address began with &#039;Adrenn&#039;. Cheers. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 14:57, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yup! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:03, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Okay, this might just me being paranoid, but could you check [[User:JangoPrime365]] too? He registered an hour after Adrenntheman was blocked, his MO is similar, and he uploaded [[:File:Prime gets shotAOE.jpg]], which is identical in dimensions, size and metadata to [[:File:Optimus gets shot AOE.jpg]], uploaded by MetroPlex71... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 18:52, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Same useragent string plus the timing makes me think you&#039;re right. Something else that doesn&#039;t add up is that he claims on his talk page to be in Australia, but his IP address indicates he&#039;s editing from Austria. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:24, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::[http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/archive/2/2a/20140713004842%21Dreadwing_Rising_Storm_adaption.jpg *cough*] [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 20:58, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why are you guys so suspicious about me? Am I a wanted hacker or something. I was searching for administrators so I can know more about them, abates/you came first. I decided to read your page and I found this. I thought to myself, &amp;quot; Am I being accused that I&#039;m someone else?&amp;quot;. I didn&#039;t know what mo was so I looked it up. Now I know. I decided to mind my own business and upload a file of dreadwing. I didn&#039;t crop it right so it showed a couple of pages. So what? . I know how you guys are feeling. You guys don&#039;t trust because I&#039;m  the &amp;quot;New Guy&amp;quot;. Same thing happened on wookiepedia. Everyone was suspicious at me because they think I&#039;m dangerous or something, Get this, I&#039;m not. I&#039;m just new and I&#039;m trying to enjoy myself in here. So can you guys stop being paranoid and give me a boost up on this wiki? &lt;br /&gt;
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If you guys still don&#039;t trust me, feel free to kick me or remove out of this website, I&#039;ll understand.&lt;br /&gt;
:JangoPrime365&lt;br /&gt;
:You are not being suspected because you&#039;re a &amp;quot;new guy&amp;quot;, you are being suspected because your behavior is somewhat similar to a user who&#039;s been banned. In many wikis, it&#039;s not uncommon for a banned user to create a new account to try and bypass a ban, and our policy for ban evasion is &#039;&#039;always&#039;&#039; a permanent ban for every account the user has and will make. The sad part is that there are many instances when the ban is temporary, and the user could have simply waited for it to pass, rather than take the chance and be permanently banned. Just giving out the facts. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 02:26, 13 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I understand but  guys, don&#039;t accuse me of being someone else. I know the rules about the &amp;quot;only one account per person&amp;quot;. I don&#039;t create multiple accounts because I know it results into a ban. Being honest, I&#039;m one of the shy types. I don&#039;t want to get that much of attention from a group of people. It starts to make me uncomfortable and paranoid. So why accuse a new-timer rather than giving me tips and a head start on this wiki? .&lt;br /&gt;
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:JangoPrime365&lt;br /&gt;
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==Response==&lt;br /&gt;
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The captions were not informative as to what the content of the picture was. Image captions are meant to put an image into context of the page. The caption on the images I edited did not serve this purpose. I&#039;ve been here in the past and it is incredibly off putting to see image captions with jokes rather than information. It does not inspire confidence even if the content of the page is good. It makes it hard to take the site seriously as a information source, which is what all wiki based site really are.&lt;br /&gt;
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While I can understand the idea of trying to be light and a little humorous, I know that at least more than a few people find this incredibly off putting and unprofessional, which hurt&#039;s a site&#039;s like this ability to attract people to it. While the user&#039;s here may think it&#039;s funny, the average person who comes here will not appreciate it the same way, or may not understand the context of the joke, it can ruin the first impression make it so people may not come back. A large portion of people who come to wiki based sites are not hard core fans, but the casual viewer or someone who has a passing interest in the franchise, or is trying to get more information on something they may be missing context on. They aren&#039;t looking for jokes, they just want information. Another thing Humor is HIGHLY subjective to the individual, putting a joke on the main page of an article meant to be view by the general population in general is not a good idea, given that a lot of people won&#039;t even think it&#039;s funny, and if they they don&#039;t think it&#039;s funny, then they are probably just gonna think it&#039;s stupid, and that gives a bad impression of the site.&lt;br /&gt;
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But the biggest reason I&#039;m doing it is that the tone of image captions seems to be spilling over into actual article content. Image captioning is one thing, but the content of the article proper should only be factual information.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;d also like to note that at the time I edited the captions, I didn&#039;t not actually know the site made it a policy to have humorous captions, just so you know that I wasn&#039;t trying to make a point and be a menace or anything, everything I do is in an attempt to improve the quality of the site. --[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 16:21, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can I ask who are the Admin&#039;s here, for future reference?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:45, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Escargon&amp;diff=885057</id>
		<title>User talk:Escargon</title>
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&lt;div&gt;Dude, stop. English names are not transferred across different characters. Big Convoy is not Big Prime. [[Gren]] is not Hook. Gaia Guardian is not Gaia Defensor, etc. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 21:50, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Big Convoy has never been named in English, Gren&#039;s never been named as that, and Gaia Guardian doesn&#039;t have an English name. Those examples don&#039;t work at all. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 21:55, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You are severely missing the point. The Kre-O character has no name, English or otherwise. All we have is the assumed intent of the writer (so, &amp;quot;Alexa&amp;quot;). What applies to the original character does not automatically apply to homages, as I&#039;ve shown with my examples.&lt;br /&gt;
::And, frankly, if you had an issue, a better method of action would have been discussing rather than automatically reverting the preference of the person taking the time to make those pages! [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 22:03, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Mimi has a point. using the Alexis/Alexa Kre-o as an  example; this wiki typically uses the Japanese name unless/until and  English name is made. So, while the Kre-O character  might be based  off Alexis from Armada, we must call her what the comic calls her. And since the comic calls her nothing, author intent is all we have to go on. I say stick with Alexa but keep the reference to  Alexis in the notes/[[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 22:27, 14 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Eh. Whatever, I don&#039;t even know all that much about the Japanese names, so I&#039;m not the best one to ask about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 16:59, 15 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Give me a mistake in the paragraph please.[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Please don&#039;t say that being a woman is an insult.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:32, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For clarification, I think [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Waspinator_(BW)&amp;amp;curid=335&amp;amp;diff=828439&amp;amp;oldid=827733&amp;amp;rcid=666524 Supernova222] was the one who said it first. Just letting that out there. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 22:48, 22 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I wasn&#039;t trying to sir. Inkblot is correct. I just undid my revision cause I wasn&#039;t sure if it was correct or not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:37, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:(sometimes I should just sit down and shut up.) [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:40, 23 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You need to settle down just a little bit. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:34, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sorry, sir. I just got a bit too angry.[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 19:38, 12 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please explain why you revert everything I contribute on this wiki?! - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 15:53, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The Ravage note was unessasary. The Team Prime image was fine, though you might want to move it to the episode section. Also, good job on editing the Soundwave ROTF page, the rape thing is one of the few PG-13 level things that is not accepted here. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 15:56, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Thanks. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 16:01, 19 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Could you give me an example of a mistake in the paragraph in the AOE page? I checked it on EVERY grammar,punctuation and spell checker page to fix it. No problems... I even contacted my language arts teacher. No problem in the paragraph. It&#039;s getting a little bit fishy....[[User:MetroPlex71]]&lt;br /&gt;
Why did you remove my talk on the Knock Out page? I thought the talk pages were for disscussing changes? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:13, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re saying that being gay is a bad thing, and that is not acceptable. Quit it right now. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:15, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sorry, but being gay really is a bad thing, the Bible says so. But if the wiki community doesn&#039;t want it on there I won&#039;t add it again, okay? :) - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:19, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, it&#039;s not a bad thing. If you ever add that again, you will get into some major trouble. Now don&#039;t add it again. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:21, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Sorry, I won&#039;t add it again. But plz don&#039;t be so cross, I didn&#039;t know it was against the rules I&#039;m new here. what exactly do not mean &amp;quot;major trouble? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:24, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Being banned. Saying stuff like that is absolutely against the rules. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:29, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Okay, it&#039;s completely understood. :) But if I say &amp;quot;Bank robbers stink&amp;quot; is that okay? (Just thought I&#039;d better ask so I don&#039;t violate any more rules, LOL, not off to a very good start, am I? :))BTW, you got a YouTube channel friend? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:33, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::That is acceptable. And no, I don&#039;t. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:36, 4 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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For the second time, chill. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:51, 5 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Zobovor]]&#039;s fake BW names on BW DVD ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for reverting my edit.  i really thought those were preliminary names for the BW characters!  --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:32, 25 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moving pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You realise that when you move pages, as you&#039;ve been doing when Kre-O cameos show up without even making a &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[x (Kre-O)]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; page, you&#039;re meant to fix the links to point to the new page, yes? [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Rattrap]] alone shows 333 &#039;&#039;mainspace&#039;&#039; links! (There&#039;s a reason for the bolded &amp;quot;Warning! This can be a drastic and unexpected change for a popular page; please be sure you understand the consequences of this before proceeding.&amp;quot; text!). - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 22:49, 24 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=Prime image=&lt;br /&gt;
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Why did you revert my optimus prime edit and the edit someone else did? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:08, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For main images we use the first body or the body the characters had the most. Optimus Prime&#039;s appeared more in his body from the first three movies than the one from AOE, so we&#039;re sticking with the image we already had. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:11, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Would it not make sense to have a up to date image? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:16, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s not how it works. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:17, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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But shouldn&#039;t it be? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It would inform those not aware of the change, make the wiki seem up to date and would be a accurate representation of the character as he is now. --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:24, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Look, I didn&#039;t make the rules. You&#039;re going to have to ask someone like Itswalky, abates, or M Sipher about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:27, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Even then that image he uploaded is no good. Prime is smooshed in the center with all that wasted space on the big OPTIMUS PRIME in the background. We need a good clear shot of the character. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 19:14, 16 April 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Vigilant Town ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Youtube version is actually edited in the last scene, explaining the Decepticon insignia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtEwQrlEAI4&lt;br /&gt;
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But the Hub network released this episode on their website, and most likely that&#039;s the original non-edited episode. http://www.hubnetwork.com/shows/transformers-rescue-bots/videos/full-episode-the-island-of-misfit-tech-episode-13-season-2&lt;br /&gt;
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Please check the differences before reverting. [[User:Klink|Klink]] ([[User talk:Klink|talk]]) 23:46, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wow, that Decepticon sigil was so blatantly edited in by someone else. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 23:57, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Eh. I hadn&#039;t seen the episode, and I&#039;d trusted abates judgement more than the newbie. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:59, 24 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tenses==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, just a quick reminder that fiction sections need to be in the past tense. Thanks! [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 14:50, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, sorry about that. I&#039;ll remember next time! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:04, 4 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Helloooo==&lt;br /&gt;
Hihi, I didn&#039;t realize there were any other translady editors of the TFWiki. Hello! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 19:06, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hello there! One of our admins is too, [[User:FortMax]]. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:39, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Embarrassing fact- she follows me on twitter, but I forgot she was an admin here, haha. Anyway, nice talkin to you, see you round the wiki! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 00:06, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Nice talking to you, too! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 11:59, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Response==&lt;br /&gt;
What are you specifically talking about.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User:8492nd&amp;diff=885048</id>
		<title>User:8492nd</title>
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		<updated>2014-07-18T21:15:38Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;8492nd: Created page with &amp;quot;I&amp;#039;m a life long Transformer&amp;#039;s fan. I&amp;#039;ve come here before but never actually joined in, in any meaningful way. That&amp;#039;s changed now and I want to try and improve the article cont...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I&#039;m a life long Transformer&#039;s fan. I&#039;ve come here before but never actually joined in, in any meaningful way. That&#039;s changed now and I want to try and improve the article content here.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Scorn</title>
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		<updated>2014-07-18T21:10:04Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;{{factions|autobotfilm}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{disambig3|Scorn}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Scorn is a [[Dinobot (AOE)|Dinobot]] from the [[Transformers: Age of Extinction (franchise)|Age of Extinction]] portion of the [[live-action film series]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:AOE Spinosaurus concept.jpg|right|thumb|400px|Concept art for Scorn&#039;s robot mode.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Scorn&#039;&#039;&#039; is what happens when you combine a destructive war machine with a predator. Nothing else so much as a destroyer on two legs, he&#039;s strong and massive. Not only capable of using his &#039;&#039;Spinosaurus&#039;&#039; alternate mode in combat, Scorn is also a demolitions specialist and wields the Scrapmaker Sword in &#039;bot mode. His massive size makes him almost impossible to bring down. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/characters.cfm?bot=Scorn&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Age of Extinction&#039;&#039; film===&lt;br /&gt;
{{spoiler|Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|July 28}} &lt;br /&gt;
Scorn was trapped aboard [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]]&#039;s vessel until [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and the Autobots stole the section of the ship he was imprisoned on, though Optimus did not reveal the Dinobots&#039; presence to his men until the time came for reinforcements. Optimus offered an ultimatum: stand with the Autobots against their mysterious Creators and [[Galvatron (AOE)|Galvatron]]&#039;s Decepticons, or face death at his hands. [[Grimlock (AOE)|Grimlock]] submitted to his command when beaten in single combat by the Autobot leader, there by earning his respect, and Scorn and the other Dinobots followed suit. Scorn allowed [[Crosshairs (Movie)|Crosshairs]] to ride him into the Hong Kong battle, where Scorn&#039;s massive size and lethal sail-spikes proved a great asset in turning the tide. Scorn accompanied the group to try to escort the Seed to safety, but Lockdown returned and turned his tractor beam on them. Scorn would&#039;ve been recaptured by the bounty hunter had Optimus not destroyed the tractor beam. Scorn helped defend the Seed on a bridge with the other Autobots and Dinobots until Optimus was able to defeat Lockdown. The battle over, Optimus gave the Dinobots their freedom, and Scorn parted with Crosshairs on good terms, who even gave him a new nickname, &amp;quot;Spike&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
{{storylink|Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Age of Extinction===&lt;br /&gt;
====Robots in Disguise====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:TF2014toy-PowerBattlerScorn.jpg|right|thumb|300px|I&#039;m wide awake and I can see the perfect guy is Scorn.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Scorn&#039;&#039;&#039; (Power Battler, 2014)&lt;br /&gt;
:Scorn features a basic transformation from a mechanical &#039;&#039;Spinosaurus&#039;&#039; into a robot. Squeezing his legs together in robot mode rotates the center of his torso, whipping his tail forward and giving him a different headsculpt. &lt;br /&gt;
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:The Takara &#039;&#039;Lost Age&#039;&#039; version of the toy features different paint applications, making his beast mode mainly silver.&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoontoy}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====Generations====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:AOEGenerationsDeluxeScorn.jpg|right|300px|thumb|You&#039;re a little late, I&#039;m already Scorn.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Scorn&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe Class, 2014)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Series&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;M4: #004&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;AD05&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; Sword&lt;br /&gt;
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:Part of the first wave of &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Age of Extinction (franchise)| Age of Extinction]]&#039;&#039;-themed &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]&#039;&#039; Deluxe class toys, Scorn transforms from a robot into a red &#039;&#039;Spinosaurus&#039;&#039; (albeit with a single sail, seemingly indicating the triple-sailed design was a late change to the movie character).  His sword can be stored inside his tail, but he can only hold it in his right hand in robot mode, as his left arm converts from his tail into a [[lance]]. Scorn&#039;s transformation scheme is [[Megatron (BW)| extremely familiar]], yesss.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Kre-O====&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;See: &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Scorn (Kre-O)]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Age of Extinction Autobots]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Dinobots]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Knights]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Jalaguy&amp;diff=885038</id>
		<title>User talk:Jalaguy</title>
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		<updated>2014-07-18T20:56:19Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;==Prime writers==&lt;br /&gt;
I hope I&#039;m not bothering but, who is going to write the new episodes in TFP? [[User:Joybells|Joybells]] 09:57, 15 October 2012 (EDT)Joybells&lt;br /&gt;
:In response to your question, we only find out the writers for specific epiodes of Transformers Prime once the episodes air, so there&#039;s no way of predicting upcoming writers. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 12:55, 15 October 2012 (EDT) &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;Duplicated from [[User talk: Joybells]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for helping me with that question though. I&#039;ll just wait.[[User:Joybells|Joybells]] 23:27, 15 October 2012 (EDT)Joybells&lt;br /&gt;
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==Constructicon shovel==&lt;br /&gt;
Hi, welcome to TFWiki. Whilst your enthusiasm is appreciated, step by step transformation images isn&#039;t something we do, not least because it&#039;d clutter up pages. Additonally, when uploading images, please use JPEGs instead of PNGs, as they take up less space.[[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 12:44, 8 December 2012 (EST) &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;Duplicated from [[User talk: Constructifan]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:I understand, but I made more images of the Constructicon shovel from TF2 ROTF and I planned to upload them to that page.--[[User:Constructifan|Constructifan]] 12:48, 8 December 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Ok, I&#039;ll try my best. :)--[[User:Constructifan|Constructifan]] 12:49, 8 December 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Now what? I just started adding jpg images and you go ahead and take them off. (sigh) Why?--[[User:Constructifan|Constructifan]] 13:49, 8 December 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:What I said about the wiki not doing anything like step-by-step transformations still stands. With the images, I meant for future reference. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 14:14, 8 December 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Predacon bird ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Do you know anything of the &amp;quot;Predacon bird&amp;quot;? Where can I find a picture of it?[[User:Transfan 1992|Transfan 1992]] 19:10, 11 December 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Beyond advising searching the internet for the Car Robot episode in question, I&#039;m afraid I can&#039;t help. Sorry. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 19:36, 11 December 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Maintenance ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, if they&#039;re a new user who&#039;s spamming right away, feel free to block them and delete all of their content.  We can always revert if it was a mistake, and the rest of us play a zero-tolerance game with the spammers.  Thanks for your help!--[[User:McFly|McFly]] 15:48, 18 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I can blank their spam pages, sure, but I can&#039;t block them, don&#039;t have sysops... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 15:53, 18 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well then, keep it up!  Your efforts keep this wiki clean! Thank you!--[[User:McFly|McFly]] 16:43, 18 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ghosts of Yesterday ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I did, I just didn&#039;t see any indication that disagreement had formed in the meantime. What did I miss?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 16:20, 28 May 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I wasn&#039;t around back then, but it seems wiki policy on article names has changed in the meantime. I vaaaaaguely recall there being a big &#039;add Transformers back into titles&#039; initiative from a while back. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 16:25, 28 May 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks![[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 16:31, 28 May 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::[[Transformers Wiki talk:Community_Portal/Archive51#When to omit .22Transformers.22 from an article title|Here]] and [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive52#.22Transformers: .22|here]]. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:59, 28 May 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I know I uploaded an image with an unusual file name. I saw the picture and decided to save it on my computer. Then I realized that the name had numbers and I didn&#039;t change the it. My mistake. I&#039;m sorry. [[User:Movie09|Movie09]] 08:01, 29 May 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Edit summaries ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Just to point out... &amp;quot;Ditto&amp;quot; is fine if you&#039;re looking at Recentchanges on the day the edit&#039;s made (and you don&#039;t have the &amp;quot;Enhanced&amp;quot; RC turned on), but look at the history of the individual page: http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Darksteel_(Prime)&amp;amp;action=history - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 14:34, 19 July 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Good point, thanks. I&#039;ll keep it in mind in the future. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 14:36, 19 July 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Meansor in Shockpoint==&lt;br /&gt;
Right, I know the issue is set a couple AFTER Menasor&#039;s creation, however surely they still shouldn&#039;t have holograms of him because they left before he was made and so, assuming nobody contacted them, they should be oblivious to the happenings on earth. {{unsigned|Drift1998}}&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, there&#039;s no reason &#039;&#039;to&#039;&#039; assume that they weren&#039;t in contact with any of the Decepticons on Earth. And if making an assumption creates an error, then it probably isn&#039;t a correct assumption. Megatron&#039;s internal monologue in #7 even seems to indicate that he&#039;s aware of the Autobots allying themselves with humans, so there&#039;s that, too. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 04:45, 13 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::It&#039;s also a recent addition to continuity and possibly the product of an error, but things now suggest that Skywarp made it from Eath to the asteroid, so he could have brought that info with him too. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 06:25, 13 October 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Tense ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I noticed that while editing, and I did try to keep it in past tense. Apparently it wasn&#039;t quite enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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-[[User:Toa 95|Toa 95]] ([[User talk:Toa 95|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
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==Understandable==&lt;br /&gt;
After editing the entire Beast Hunters and you editing it to chop a part of (the reception section), I read the file history and understand what you are going with, so thus perhaps one day when the figures are officially released then we&#039;ll talk about the reception proper (besides, I did it after analyzing the forms and other reviewers and thus coming to conclusion that it had to be done).&lt;br /&gt;
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Go(toby070)bots.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sorry==&lt;br /&gt;
My apologies for not being a very productive member of this community lately, I guess I got a little carried away. Just wanted you to know. Thank you, though, because I, myself was beggining to consider how much I could have been contributing rather than goofing off. Also, I&#039;m kind of new to the whole chat thing, so if I&#039;m doing it wrong I apologize (again)-[[User:WaffleZ|WaffleZ]], 7:08, June 30, 2014&lt;br /&gt;
:No worries, everyone&#039;s new at some point, and it&#039;s easy to get carried away having fun with captions. Happy editing! [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 14:23, 1 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Response==&lt;br /&gt;
While I&#039;ll leave the discussion on what is proper article introduction for another day, and article should not have a &amp;quot;question and answer&amp;quot; sentence arrangement in them either.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 16:56, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>User talk:Abates</title>
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[[/Archive 2|Archive 2]]&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[/Archive 4|Archive 4]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==To-Do List==&lt;br /&gt;
===Operation: Screen Captures===&lt;br /&gt;
Screen cap (re)tagging:&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Generation 1 screen captures|G1]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:The Headmasters screen captures|Headmasters]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;/[[:Category:Super-God Masterforce screen captures|Masterforce]]/&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Victory screen captures|Victory]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;/&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Zone screen captures|Zone]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Beast Wars screen captures|Beast Wars]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;/&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Beast Machines screen captures|Beast Machines]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Robots in Disguise screen captures|Robots in Disguise]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Armada screen captures|Armada]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;/[[:Category:Energon screen captures|Energon]]/&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Cybertron screen captures|Cybertron]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[:Category:Animated screen captures|Animated]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
====Pictures of unidentified origin====&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t know which episodes these are from - feel free to tag them with {{tl|MFcap}} or {{tl|Energoncap}} if you know!&lt;br /&gt;
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Image:Diver suiton.jpg|Diver from Masterforce&lt;br /&gt;
Image:EnergonGeneric.jpg|Some dude from Energon&lt;br /&gt;
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===Useful URLs===&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.bot-shots.com/check_list.php Bot Shots bios]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heatwave GB==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, abates. I was going to change Heatwave&#039;s GoBox to something I made from the Rescue Bots &#039;&#039;Memory&#039;&#039; game cards...&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://obscuretf.com/GB-RBHeatwave2.jpg]&lt;br /&gt;
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... but I saw that you made the original GoBox, so I thought I&#039;d get your opinion on it first. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] ([[User talk:Monzo|talk]]) 11:39, 17 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sure, go for it! I&#039;ll make sure the version that appears on other sites updates. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:57, 17 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Could you fix this? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m regularising the Marvel UK cover filenames, but I accidentally just moved the #101 cover to [[:File:MarvelUK-102.jpg]]. Could you move it to [[:File:MarvelUK-101.jpg]] and delete the redirect so I can move the actual #102 cover there, please? Ta. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 19:17, 27 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:All done! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:24, 27 January 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hi ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello, thanks for the notice. I just fixed that up. ;-D --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 05:05, 4 February 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Awesome, thanks! :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 05:42, 4 February 2014 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== About three users... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t want to sound overly cautious and paranoid, but it&#039;s bothered me for a while: Is it possible that [[Special:Contributions/Emperor_of_Terror_Scorponok|these]] [[Special:Contributions/Unicron_The_Chaos_Bringer|three]] [[Special:Contributions/Optimus_Prime_The_Savoir|users]] are one and the same? I mean, they feature similar styles of contributions, not to mention the names. Just putting this out there... --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 03:51, 29 March 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I did a checkuser and... yep, they&#039;re one and the same, as far as I can tell. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 04:01, 29 March 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s another one: Are these [[User:Noerk|two]] [[User:KirbyForce1|guys]] the same? I hope not... --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 18:02, 7 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I was wondering this myself a while ago. That the exact fan-art on Noerk&#039;s userpage can be found on KirbyForce1&#039;s deviantART page is kind of damning, unless Noerk was lying about the art being his. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 18:07, 7 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Naw, pretty sure they&#039;re different people. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:22, 7 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::PHEW! Thank goodness! --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 18:24, 7 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Could [[User:Ratchet0202]] be perma-banned [[User:Ironhide0202]]? Very similar names, very similar editing patterns. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 09:15, 11 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yep, it looks like! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 17:07, 11 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, abates, could you do another one? [[User:Energizer]] and [[User:SirSpoonwave]] have very similar posting habits, and it&#039;s making me suspicious.[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 22:53, 21 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:SirSpoonwave has not edited in a year and a half so any checkuser data is expired. In any case, it&#039;s not like either of them is a problem user. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 23:26, 21 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, could you run checkusers on [[User:Bruticus-Maxwell]] and [[User:JaAm-On-Toast]]? They seem likely candidates for KirbyForce sockpuppets... Cheers. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 17:26, 22 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Okay, yeah, they were KirbyForce. Just noticed [[User:SlimerJoel]] from a few days ago, though... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 17:54, 22 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Checkuser on SlimerJoel was inconclusive, unfortunately! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:46, 22 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Can you check [[User:Thunderstrike57]]? His/her edit to [[Drift (ROTF)]] makes me suspect KirbyForce again. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 07:11, 23 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Nope, doesn&#039;t look like that&#039;s him. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:37, 23 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Could you check this new Septesson guy? I think he&#039;s Norek. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 16:24, 28 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, I admit that perhaps I went a little overboard with the Interstellar Challenge course (as I admit of being afraid of too-small articles), thanks for refining it a bit.&lt;br /&gt;
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Double thanks for helping refine my articles and images :-) {{unsigned|Go(toby070)Bots}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:No problem! BTW, you should sign talk page comments by using &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; (or by using the squiggly signature button in the toolbar over the edit window. It&#039;s the one second from the right). --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 21:58, 4 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Add the Dinobots ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since you&#039;re in charge of the [[Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|Age of Extinction]] page, why aren&#039;t the other Dinobots Slug, Slash, and Scorn aren&#039;t in the chart full of characters? I made their pages if you haven&#039;t noticed. Can you please add the Dinobots? [[User:Movie09|Movie09]] ([[User talk:Movie09|talk]]) 09:05, 11 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:They&#039;re not on there because as far as I know, we haven&#039;t seen official confirmation they&#039;re in the movie. We&#039;ve only seen Grimlock and Strafe in trailers so far, and none of the Dinobots were in the list of voice actors revealed the other day. I&#039;m not in charge of the AOE page, but as it was locked down so only admins could edit it, I was trying to keep it as up to date as I could. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 17:03, 11 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Checkuser==&lt;br /&gt;
Really sorry to use you as &#039;the checkuser guy&#039; again, but I rather suspect that [[User:AdrenntheMan]] might be [[User:OptimusPrime12]]/[[User:MetroPlex71]], not least because OptimusPrime12&#039;s email address began with &#039;Adrenn&#039;. Cheers. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 14:57, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yup! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:03, 11 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Okay, this might just me being paranoid, but could you check [[User:JangoPrime365]] too? He registered an hour after Adrenntheman was blocked, his MO is similar, and he uploaded [[:File:Prime gets shotAOE.jpg]], which is identical in dimensions, size and metadata to [[:File:Optimus gets shot AOE.jpg]], uploaded by MetroPlex71... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 18:52, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Same useragent string plus the timing makes me think you&#039;re right. Something else that doesn&#039;t add up is that he claims on his talk page to be in Australia, but his IP address indicates he&#039;s editing from Austria. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:24, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::[http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/archive/2/2a/20140713004842%21Dreadwing_Rising_Storm_adaption.jpg *cough*] [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 20:58, 12 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why are you guys so suspicious about me? Am I a wanted hacker or something. I was searching for administrators so I can know more about them, abates/you came first. I decided to read your page and I found this. I thought to myself, &amp;quot; Am I being accused that I&#039;m someone else?&amp;quot;. I didn&#039;t know what mo was so I looked it up. Now I know. I decided to mind my own business and upload a file of dreadwing. I didn&#039;t crop it right so it showed a couple of pages. So what? . I know how you guys are feeling. You guys don&#039;t trust because I&#039;m  the &amp;quot;New Guy&amp;quot;. Same thing happened on wookiepedia. Everyone was suspicious at me because they think I&#039;m dangerous or something, Get this, I&#039;m not. I&#039;m just new and I&#039;m trying to enjoy myself in here. So can you guys stop being paranoid and give me a boost up on this wiki? &lt;br /&gt;
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If you guys still don&#039;t trust me, feel free to kick me or remove out of this website, I&#039;ll understand.&lt;br /&gt;
:JangoPrime365&lt;br /&gt;
:You are not being suspected because you&#039;re a &amp;quot;new guy&amp;quot;, you are being suspected because your behavior is somewhat similar to a user who&#039;s been banned. In many wikis, it&#039;s not uncommon for a banned user to create a new account to try and bypass a ban, and our policy for ban evasion is &#039;&#039;always&#039;&#039; a permanent ban for every account the user has and will make. The sad part is that there are many instances when the ban is temporary, and the user could have simply waited for it to pass, rather than take the chance and be permanently banned. Just giving out the facts. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 02:26, 13 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I understand but  guys, don&#039;t accuse me of being someone else. I know the rules about the &amp;quot;only one account per person&amp;quot;. I don&#039;t create multiple accounts because I know it results into a ban. Being honest, I&#039;m one of the shy types. I don&#039;t want to get that much of attention from a group of people. It starts to make me uncomfortable and paranoid. So why accuse a new-timer rather than giving me tips and a head start on this wiki? .&lt;br /&gt;
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:JangoPrime365&lt;br /&gt;
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==Response==&lt;br /&gt;
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The captions were not informative as to what the content of the picture was. Image captions are meant to put an image into context of the page. The caption on the images I edited did not serve this purpose. I&#039;ve been here in the past and it is incredibly off putting to see image captions with jokes rather than information. It does not inspire confidence even if the content of the page is good. It makes it hard to take the site seriously as a information source, which is what all wiki based site really are.&lt;br /&gt;
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While I can understand the idea of trying to be light and a little humorous, I know that at least more than a few people find this incredibly off putting and unprofessional, which hurt&#039;s a site&#039;s like this ability to attract people to it. While the user&#039;s here may think it&#039;s funny, the average person who comes here will not appreciate it the same way, or may not understand the context of the joke, it can ruin the first impression make it so people may not come back. A large portion of people who come to wiki based sites are not hard core fans, but the casual viewer or someone who has a passing interest in the franchise, or is trying to get more information on something they may be missing context on. They aren&#039;t looking for jokes, they just want information. Another thing Humor is HIGHLY subjective to the individual, putting a joke on the main page of an article meant to be view by the general population in general is not a good idea, given that a lot of people won&#039;t even think it&#039;s funny, and if they they don&#039;t think it&#039;s funny, then they are probably just gonna think it&#039;s stupid, and that gives a bad impression of the site.&lt;br /&gt;
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But the biggest reason I&#039;m doing it is that the tone of image captions seems to be spilling over into actual article content. Image captioning is one thing, but the content of the article proper should only be factual information.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;d also like to note that at the time I edited the captions, I didn&#039;t not actually know the site made it a policy to have humorous captions, just so you know that I wasn&#039;t trying to make a point and be a menace or anything, everything I do is in an attempt to improve the quality of the site. --[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 16:21, 18 July 2014 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;Alexis is a [[human]] from the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Alexis.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|And once I&#039;m elected, I&#039;ll legalize everything! Bar anything that is illegal.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Alexis Thi Dang&#039;&#039;&#039; is a human who debuted in the Transformers: Armada as a main character, and who appeared throughout the Unicron Trilogy. She has noted she wants to be [[President of the United States|President]] when she grows up. &lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===Cartoon continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
{{voiceactor|[[Tabitha St. Germain]] (English), [[Akira Tomisaka]] (Japanese)|[[Anke Kortemeier]] (German), [[Mia Kihl]] (Swedish), [[Elodie Ben]] (Armada, French), [[Victoire Theissmann]] (Energon, French), [[Rebeca Aponte]] (Spanish Latin America)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:ArmadaAlexis.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Get used to this, girlfriend.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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One day, [[Rad White|Rad]] and [[Carlos Lopez (Armada)|Carlos]] went exploring into the caverns deep beneath [[Cosmoscope Research Center]]. Inside, they found the curious remains of a clearly artificial construction, seemingly far in advance of human technology. Rad discovered a [[Mini-Con storage panel]] half buried in the rubble, and against Carlos&#039; advice, his friend was drawn towards the strange object. Touching it, the entire structure began to shake, suddenly springing to life as thousands of computers lit up the walls.&lt;br /&gt;
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At home, Alexis felt the tremors and used her computer to pinpoint the epicenter of the apparent earthquake as the mountain caverns that Rad and Carlos were exploring. Similarly, the scientists and researchers at the observatory were baffled by the sudden  movement of the Earth. As Rad and Carlos made their escape with the artifact, a bright light engulfed the chamber they were in, simultaneously shutting down all electronic equipment in Lincoln, as well as emitting three distinctly coloured distress signals beams into the sky.&lt;br /&gt;
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One beam, green, reached an [[Exodus (Armada)|ancient starship wreck]] on the dark side of the moon, causing it to fire hundreds of smaller beams of green light at the [[Earth]]. The two remaining signal beams, coloured red and purple, continued deep into space until it reached [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Emerging from the cave with Rad, Carlos turned to see a huge glowing purple sphere of pulsating energy floating in mid-air, which soon solidified into a huge robot. This being was [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]], supreme leader of the evil [[Decepticon]]s. As he tried to take the object Rad had found, which had now revealed itself to be [[High Wire (Armada)|High Wire]], a sought-after [[Mini-Con]], suddenly another massive robot ordered Megatron to stand down. He was [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]], leader of the heroic [[Autobot]]s. As the pair grappled, Rad mused that somehow this was all his fault.  {{storylink|First Encounter}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The kids attempted to flee on High Wire, but were stopped by the arrival of [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]] and [[Demolishor (Armada)|Demolishor]]. Demolishor tried to grab the boys, but they were saved by the arrival of [[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]] and [[Red Alert (Armada)|Red Alert]]. Rad fled back into the cave, calling Carlos and Alexis after him. Rad was sure they&#039;d be safe there, but Alexis was concerned that the bigger robots might still follow them. High Wire led the three into a smaller room, to Alexis&#039; further distress; Rad and Carlos, however, assured her that they&#039;d be safer there. While in there, he accessed the ship&#039;s computer and the kids learned about the Transformer conflict.&lt;br /&gt;
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At this point, High Wire activated a hidden storage panel, revealing [[Grindor (Armada)|Grindor]] and [[Sureshock (Armada)|Sureshock]], who bonded to Carlos and Alexis. They took their new friends out to play in the woods, but ran into Megatron. The timely arrival of Optimus Prime initially seemed to Rad and Carlos to make things worse, but when Alexis trusted the big Autobot, the boys did as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus Prime took them into his cab and sped off to a distant location, where he set them down. Unfortunately, Megatron had followed close behind, and so Optimus had to combine with his [[trailer]] to fight him off. {{storylink|Metamorphosis}} The commanders&#039; battle caused a landslide to fall on the kids, but they were shielded by Hot Shot. They then dug up some more Mini-Cons, but two of those were stolen by Cyclonus.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Decepticons retreated, and so the kids and robots made proper introductions. Rad was particularly upset by the idea that he had started a massive war by reactivating High Wire&lt;br /&gt;
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The next day at school, [[Billy (Armada)|Billy]] grilled them over recent earthquakes; Rad and Carlos played dumb, while Alexis pointed out that if there was an earthquake, it would have been mentioned on the news. When Billy asked where Rad got his new bike, Rad claimed it was a birthday present from his grandmother. He and Carlos headed on up to the mountain; on the way, Alexis chewed them out for almost blowing their cover.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the Autobots&#039; base, Optimus Prime presented them with [[Laserbeak (Armada)|Laserbeak]] to aid them with their reconnaissance work; right then, another Mini-Con was detected {{storylink|Base}} in the [[Grand Canyon|Big Canyon]]. The kids ran out with the Autobots, Rad falling slightly behind, and got spiffy new adventure suits on the way.&lt;br /&gt;
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When they got to the canyon, Rad was initially left alone once again when Alexis and Hot Shot sped off, forgetting him. They came back, though. Hot Shot then sped off as fast as he could over the rough terrain, severely shaking up the two humans. Rad sent Laserbeak off to find the Mini-Con, and was himself chided by Alexis for being a coward.&lt;br /&gt;
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When the Mini-Con was finally found, Optimus Prime, Megatron, and Starscream simultaneously tried to claim it. Rad gave a yell of concern, which inspire High Wire, Grindor, and Sureshock to combine into [[Perceptor (Armada)|Perceptor]], who managed to hold off both Megatron and Starscream. Optimus Prime claimed the Mini-Con—who turned out to be his old partner, [[Sparkplug (Armada)|Sparkplug]]—and the kids helped dig up Hot Shot form where he&#039;d gotten himself buried. {{storylink|Comrade}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, they played tag with Hot Shot, which got him in trouble with Optimus Prime as he was supposed to be helping Red Alert install some equipment. They then went to find a new Mini-Con in [[Antarctica]], where Rad and Alexis rode in Red Alert while Carlos went with Hot Shot. Red Alert ended up having to save Carlos and Hot Shot from Starscream. {{storylink|Soldier (episode)|Soldier}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Rad later came up with the sensible notion of bringing some camping supplies to the Autobot base in case they ever had to stay the night. Soon after he got them to the base, another Mini-Con was detected, and so the good guys all warped over to a forest. Carlos found a path that had been cut down by illegal loggers, prompting Rad to make a speech about how important it is to protect the environment.&lt;br /&gt;
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During this mission, Rad used Laserbeak to find the Mini-Con, [[Swindle (Armada)|Swindle]]. However, the Decepticons also found him, and started a forest fire. At Rad&#039;s insistence, the Autobots temporarily broke off their search to protect the animals, allowing Starscream to make off with Swindle. Rad felt guilty about this, but Optimus Prime assured him that his heart was in the right place. {{storylink|Jungle}} &lt;br /&gt;
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Back at the base, the kids tried to wake up the dormant Mini-Con they&#039;d found in Antarctica, but to no avail. Rad and Carlos fell for the old &amp;quot;pass me that spanner that&#039;s clearly too big for your species to lift&amp;quot; joke and, seeing there was nothing they could do to help, decided to take High Wire and Grindor to a local carnival, followed by [[Sparkplug (Armada)|Sparkplug]], [[Longarm (Armada)|Longarm]], and [[Jolt (Armada)|Jolt]].&lt;br /&gt;
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At the carnival, the boys were initially concerned that bringing five alien robots to a crowded area might blow their cover, but quickly came up with the idea of telling everyone they were super-advanced [[human]]-developed robots that would be available for purchase in the future. After a while, the boys tried to take the robots home, but it turned out that Billy and Fred were also at the carnival, and got suspicious. They tried to capture one of the Mini-Con, causing the entire situation to descend into slapstick farce.&lt;br /&gt;
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They were saved by the timely arrival of Hot Shot, Sureshock, and Alexis, who managed to get things under control, swore Billy and Fred to secrecy, and gave the lads a good scolding. As punishment, Rad and Carlos had to clean up their quarters back at the base. {{storylink|Carnival}} The kids later accompanied the Autobots to the [[Sahara|Sahara Desert]], and fell into a sand pit after an altercation with Demolishor. They found themselves in an ancient temple, where they were attacked by ancient guardian robots, but fortunately Demolishor was there to blow them up. Further into the temple, they found a Mini-Con storage panel; Carlos accidentally activated a trap, and Rad knocked him out of the way. After that, the floor collapsed, but Perceptor was able to rescue them. Demolishor got the Mini-Con. {{storylink|Palace}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The next day, back in America, Billy and Fred pursued the three to the Autobot base. Rad, Carlos, and Alexis all tried to outrun them, but soon had to split up when Cyclonus attempted to capture them. Cyclonus chased after Rad, but was thrown off the trail by Laserbeak and so captured Billy and Fred instead, intending to hold them for ransom. They tracked Laserbeak to a ghost town, where the kids tried to rescue the bullies, but all ended up being captured by Megatron, who demanded Optimus Prime hand over all their Autobots&#039; Mini-Cons in exchange for the humans&#039; lives. Optimus Prime went through with it, but Megatron, naturally, refused to hand them over. However, Rad was able to use Laserbeak to free all the other humans, and Hot Shot was able to rescue Rad with Fred&#039;s surprising help. {{storylink|Confrontation (episode)|Confrontation}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The day after that, when Hot Shot whined about having to do work on the ship, Rad facetiously offered to take his place. Before anything could come of this, however, a new Mini-Con was detected in a disused subway system. The kids accompanied the Autobots in their search and actually managed to find the storage panel; as soon as they did, however, [[Smokescreen (Armada)|Smokescreen]], who had been discreetly following them, decided to attack. &lt;br /&gt;
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A while after that, the Autobots received a transmission from [[Atlantis]] and took the kids with them to search for yet another Mini-Con. At the ruins, while the Autobots fought the Decepticons, the kids went inside to look around. A [[Hologram|holographic]] display activated, and Carlos chased after the hologram of [[Amphitrite]]; Rad and Alexis followed. &#039;Amphitrite&#039; gave them a canned history of Atlantis, focusing on how its inhabitants used the [[Star Saber (Armada)|Star Saber]] to dominate the world, and were eventually defeated by another civilisation who wielded the [[Skyboom (Armada)|Skyboom Shield]]. Despite this warning of the danger of the Mini-Cons&#039; power, the kids decided to find the Mini-Con in Atlantis anyway, but it was claimed by [[Leader-1 (Armada)|Leader-1]] for the Decepticons. Dejected, the kids left with Optimus Prime. Rad tried to comfort Carlos, {{storylink|Ruin (episode)|Ruin}} and when they got back, mused that at last he knew what happened to Atlantis.&lt;br /&gt;
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He asked Optimus Prime if there was any way to end the war with the Decepticons, to which Optimus gave him the origin of the war and what he knew of the Mini-Cons. Rad changed his line of questioning, asking if there was a way to fight without involving the Mini-Cons; Optimus responded that the Decepticons would use Mini-Cons to fight anyway, and so the Autobots had to do the same to prevent them from capturing any more than they already had.&lt;br /&gt;
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While searching for the Mini-Con of the week, this time on a volcanic island, Rad sent Laserbeak to look for it at Alexis&#039; prompting. They found it, but it was carried off in a lava floe, and eventually claimed by Red Alert. {{storylink|Prehistory}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After that adventure, the trio decided to give Billy and Fred a tour of the Autobot base, but were separated when the Decepticons attacked. Since the bullies were in danger of the automatic defenses, said defenses were shut off, allowing the Decepticons to penetrate deeper into the base that anyone would have liked. However, after a battle, the Star Saber was reassembled and in the hands of Hot Shot, so the day ultimately turned out all right. {{storylink|Swoop (episode)|Swoop}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The next day, Rad and Carlos tried to sort out the human quarters on the base while Alexis and Sureshock were out shopping. For some reason, the fridge was full of tools. {{storylink|Overmatch}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When Alexis tracked down the next Mini-Con, the trio, plus Billy and Fred, rushed off with the Autobots to cheer them on; Rad and Carlos rode in Hot Shot.&lt;br /&gt;
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Rad and Carlos were let out by Hot Shot so the Autobot could focus on fighting Cyclonus. At that point, [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]] arrived and dropped off Billy, who hugged Rad. Alexis arrived momentarily.&lt;br /&gt;
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Back at the base, Alexis and Rad discussed Sideways. Both were deeply suspicious of him , but they decided not to raise their misgivings with Optimus Prime in case it turned out their first impressions were false. {{storylink|Gale}} &lt;br /&gt;
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With Hot Shot feeling naturally depressed about this disaster, all five kids tried to cheer him up by making silly faces. They also accompanied the Autobots on their search for the next Mini-Con, and managed to find it at the same time as [[Blackout (Armada)|Blackout]], and after a scuffle, it was taken by Scavenger for the Decepticons. Soon after, however, Scavenger came over to the Autobots, and revealed he had been a double agent all along. {{storylink|Conspiracy}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In the aftermath of Sideways&#039; betrayal, the trio weren&#039;t exactly eager to trust Scavenger. He seemed to be more interested in sleeping than mentoring Hot Shot, but when the kids tried to raise this with Optimus Prime, his explanation was cut short by the detection of still another Mini-Con. The Autobots warped off to somewhere with a lot of snow, while the kids observed from back at base. Scavenger heroically saved Optimus Prime&#039;s life, very nearly plunging to his own [[death]], and so the kids (and Smokescreen) apologised to him for their earlier suspicions when he got back, Scavenger accepted with characteristic stoicism. {{storylink|Trust (Armada)|Trust}}&lt;br /&gt;
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At some point after that incident, the boys went on a camping trip with Hot Shot and Red Alert, forgetting to tell Alexis. Carlos, Fred, and Billy played in the water and invited a little boy named Shaun to play with them, while Rad tried his hand at fishing.&lt;br /&gt;
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That evening, a storm blew in, resulting in a landslide which trapped Red Alert, Carlos, and Shaun beneath a massive pile of mud. Optimus Prime ordered Red Alert to transform in order to escape, but Rad explained that there was a human news crew present, and so Red Alert transforming would completely blow the Autobots&#039; cover. Hence, he deployed Laserbeak to distract the reporters while the rest of the Autobots rolled in and saved the day in their [[Alternate mode|altmodes]]. Everybody returned to base post haste, where they found Alexis waiting with baited breath. Fond reunions were had be all. {{storylink|Vacation}}&lt;br /&gt;
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All five kids were present at the battle in which [[Blurr (Armada)|Blurr]] made his first appearance. They tried to make friends with the new arrival, but he turned out to belong to the monosyllabic loner school of heroism.However, Blurr did mellow out a little when his refusal to work as a team led to the Decepticons getting their servos on [[Downshift (Armada)|Downshift]], so it mostly turned out all right. {{storylink|Reinforcement}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The next day, Blurr and Hot Shot trained together while the kids watched. They also congratulated Smokescreen for succeeding in a test where Hot Shot failed, even though Hot Shot only failed because he was competing with Blurr in addition to trying to dodge the obstacles.&lt;br /&gt;
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This session was interrupted when Megatron challenged all the Autobots to a final, decisive battle. Due to the danger, the kids were left at the base to watch the proceedings from afar. Megatron would have won if Optimus Prime hadn&#039;t managed to get his hands on the Skyboom shield, and when the Star Saber was used against the shield, a mighty light was released which Rad and Alexis recognised as the same one that they had seen whe High Wire was awoken. This light streaked off into space, to awaken [[Unicron]]. {{storylink|Decisive Battle}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite this victory, the Optimus Prime decided the situation was too dangerous for the kids and barred them from the base. Frustrated, they wandered off, but were soon joined by the [[Street Action Mini-Con Team (Armada)|Street Action Mini-Con Team]], who had received a transmission from the Decepticon-allied Mini-Cons on the Moon. While Rad and Fred went to tell Optimus Prime, the rest of the kids and the Mini-Cons headed to the warp gate. However, the transmission turned out to be a trap orchestrated by Megatron, who was seeking to divide and conquer. Rad, Fred, and four of the Autobots were teleported to various locations all over the world, leaving Alexis, Carlos, and Billy behind. Finding herself unable to contact Laserbeak, Alexis hurried back to the base to tell Red Alert and Scavenger about the situation. She then tried to re-establish contact with Laserbeak, which she did, just as Optimus Prime was persuading Megatron&#039;s Mini-Cons to convert to the Autobots&#039; side. She was able to get all the rest of the Autobots to Prime&#039;s location, where they successfully drove off Megatron. {{storylink|Vow}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After that adventure, the kids were allowed back into the base, though no longer went on missions. Alexis got stroppy when Carlos complained about boredom, while Rad tried to keep the two from murdering each other.Despite not being at the front of the action, the war would still impinge on their lives when Sideways hacked the Autobots&#039; computer system. Despite Rad and Alexis&#039; best efforts, Sideways&#039; virus quickly took control of the base and projected himself into it. Faced with no other options, the trio resorted to physically smashing the terminals, which granted them a brief reprieve.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, this relief proved to be short-lived when Sideways sucked the minds of the kids as well as their partner Mini-Cons into a cyberspace landscape of his own devising. Rad and Carlos actually enjoyed the lack of gravity in this new realm for a while before Sideways&#039; digital avatar appeared to them and tried to claim their Mini-Cons.&lt;br /&gt;
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Back at the base, Billy and Fred tried to wake the trio up. Meanwhile, in cyberspace, the kids and Mini-Cons fled Sideways, and discovered that all they saw was just an elaborate illusion. Sideways managed to capture Sureshock, but then Alexis realized that since he had gone to so much effort, he clearly wasn&#039;t in control of this illusion - and also that he couldn&#039;t really harm them.&lt;br /&gt;
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At this, Sideways panicked and made a desperate bid to take the Mini-Cons, but the kids&#039; lack of belief in the world they saw put paid to that plan. At that point, a massive force of evil manifested in cyberspace - Unicron, the one entity Sideways feared! The kids fled back to the meatspace through a portal opened by Red Alert, leaving Sideways to his master&#039;s mercies. {{storylink|Chase (episode)|Chase}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When Fred tried to tell the others about strange lights seen recently in space, Alexis was the only one who seemed concerned. All the kids expressed relief when Sideways appeared on the battlefield during the next Mini-Con related skirmish, as this meant he couldn&#039;t hack their system again. The Autobots won this battle, bringing [[Prowl (Armada)|Prowl]] into the fold, and the kids were all there to welcome him when they took him back to base. {{storylink|Tactician}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In a subsequent battle, Optimus Prime was seriously injured, forcing Jetfire to take command. None of the kids were impressed by the new guy&#039;s constant boasting. They also got a brief history lesson on battles the Autobots had lost due to Thrust&#039;s tactical genius; while Carlos was confident that Jetfire could easily counter Thrust, the others weren&#039;t so sure.&lt;br /&gt;
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As it turned out, the kids were right about Jetfire, as his overconfidence nearly led to the Autobots losing the next Mini-Con to surface. To his credit, Jetfire was contrite, saying he had learned his lesson and would be more cautious in future. {{storylink|Linkup}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The next day, the kids watched Jetfire and Smokescreen arm-wrestling, and Alexis confused Carlos by cheering for both. They also filled in Jetfire on what Sideways had gotten up to. Jetfire then displayed his cunning side by showing the kids a photo of Sideways shooting down Cyclonus, which cast doubt on the turncoat&#039;s allegiance to the Decepticons. The kids tried to figure out what Sideways&#039; deal was, Alexis reasoning that he had a goal other than the Mini-Cons {{storylink|Detection}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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While the Autobots were dealing with [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]], two Mini-Cons were detected in addition to the one the Transformers were at the time specifically fighting over. Alexis was confused by the location data, but after some analysis she discovered that it was pointing at the Moon. At that point, Sideways mockingly congratulated her on her ingenuity and explained that these three Mini-Cons would unite to form the [[Requiem Blaster (Armada)|Requiem Blaster]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Meanwhile, the boys found the other Mini-Con, [[Sky Blast]], in the caves around the base. {{storylink|Awakening}} &lt;br /&gt;
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After some fighting, Sky Blast walked off and played a melody which awoke both Payload on the beach and [[Astroscope]] on the moon; the three Mini-Cons came together and did indeed form the Requiem Blaster, which Optimus Prime obtained and used to obliterate the Decepticons. {{storylink|Desperate}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In the light of this, the kids became concerned about the rights of the Mini-Cons, and so took the [[Space Mini-Con Team]] out to a remote farmhouse where they could be safe. They were followed by Thrust, but he got caught in a set of traps the kids had rigged up which allowed Optimus Prime to come by and save the day. After an impassioned discussion as to why the Mini-Cons should not be viewed as mere weapons, the kids and Mini-Cons both returned to base. {{storylink|Runaway}}&lt;br /&gt;
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All the kids were present when [[Side Swipe (Armada)|Side Swipe]] came to Earth and rather enthusiastically begged to fight alongside Blurr. The kids weren&#039;t terribly impressed, so Billy and Fred went off to play a video game. Alexis chided them for wasting time and resources, and, &#039;&#039;purely&#039;&#039; in the interest of demonstrating how silly their game was, decided to play against them. {{storylink|Past}} Naturally enough, she turned out to be the best of the lot. {{storylink|Past II}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, the kids stayed at the base with Red Alert when the Autobots went out to counter a Decepticon attack. However, this attack proved to be nothing more than a distraction posed by Starscream, while the rest of the &#039;Cons attacked the Autobot base in search of the Requiem Blaster. The kids ran for hiding before the Autobots warped back, and bore witness to Megatron obtaining the Blaster and using it on Smokescreen, apparently killing him. {{storylink|Sacrifice}} However, things would soon improve somewhat when the Starscream joined the ranks of the Autobots. {{storylink|Regeneration (Armada)|Regeneration}} Alexis took a particular shine to him, but Starscream dismissed her and the other human children, as he was only concerned with defeating [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]]. {{storylink|Rescue}} Despite this, the kids asked Starscream to bring them back a souvenir when he and Jetfire travelled to [[Mars (planet)|Mars]] in search of a Mini-Con panel. In spite of his rude, lone-wolf demeanor, Starscream brought back a mysterious green rock for the kids, thus earning him a place in their hearts, in particular Alexis. {{storylink|Mars (episode)|Mars}} Alexis fashioned a pendant from this, which had a mysterious connection to Starscream&#039;s [[spark]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Chamois WHY.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|How dare you? Do you have any idea how much of my sweat and blood went into that thing?]] In return for his kindness, the kids threw Starscream a surprise party, sewing a large [[Chamois of Friendship]] out of several smaller rags. Starscream was touched by this, but unfortunately abandoned the gift ten minutes later when he was duped into returning to the Decepticons by [[Thrust (Armada)|Thrust]], ostensibly so as to destroy Megatron. {{storylink|Crack (episode)|Crack}} In the aftermath, Alexis and Rad tried to calm the more visibly enraged Billy and Carlos, and then they all went to their respective homes, where Alexis clutched her pendant and thought about Starscream.&lt;br /&gt;
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The next day, all the kids returned to the base to discover the Autobots and their allied Mini-Cons working quickly to complete the &#039;&#039;[[Axalon (Armada)|Axalon]]&#039;&#039; in order to retrieve the Decepticons&#039; Mini-cons. The kids discussed Starscream a bit and decided never to speak of him again; Alexis was visibly upset but tried to hide it. At Fred&#039;s suggestion, they all went to see a comet. Afterwards, Alexis, still upset over Starscream, went home, and Rad left with her. Not long after that, the Decepticons launched their assault on Earth using the [[Hydra Cannon]]. {{storylink|Threaten}} Rad and Alexis raced back to their friends, and all the kids just kind of stood around wondering what to do. {{storylink|Crisis}}&lt;br /&gt;
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As it turned out, the Decepticons were thwarted through the [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|noble sacrifice of Optimus Prime]]. The kids all suffered a heartfelt grief.&lt;br /&gt;
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Over the next week, the Autobots busied themselves with completing the &#039;&#039;Axalon&#039;&#039;, but Hot Shot and Scavenger soon came to blows. The kids were confused when the two warped out, but Alexis tracked them to an abandoned highway. Here, it turned out Scavenger was trying to snap Hot Shot out of his own depression, and Alexis realized Hot Shot blamed himself for Prime&#039;s death. When the rest of the Autobots joined in abusing Hot Shot, the kids tried to persuade them that bullying their youngest member wouldn&#039;t help anything, but were overruled by Red Alert, who insisted that they had to get this out of their system.&lt;br /&gt;
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After a while of this, Hot Shot did come to terms with Optimus Prime&#039;s death, and everybody&#039;s morale was raised; it was raised so much so, in fact, that Hot Shot was chosen as the Autobots&#039; new commander. {{storylink|Remorse}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Under Hot Shot&#039;s understandably unsteady command, the &#039;&#039;Axalon&#039;&#039; was soon completed and preparations made to depart for Cybertron. The kids were looking forward to seeing another planet, and so were naturally miffed when Hot Shot told them that he was leaving them on Earth where it was safe. All the kids glumly returned home, but ever hopeful, Alexis packed her bags anyway and, along with Rad and Carlos, headed for the Autobot base the next morning.&lt;br /&gt;
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When they arrived, Hot Shot once again insisted that it was too dangerous for them to come along. Upon hearing this, the Mini-Cons collectively rebelled and blocked all the ship&#039;s systems, refusing to budge until the kids were allowed on. Hot Shot relented, and the kids and Autobots blasted off into space. {{storylink|Depart}}&lt;br /&gt;
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During the journey, the kids bore witness to the arrival of thousands of new Mini-Cons and the rebirth of Optimus Prime, {{storylink|Miracle}} the conflict with [[Nemesis Prime (Armada)|Nemesis Prime]], and the Mini-Con powered [[spontaneous recoloration|recoloration]] of several Autobots and Decepticons. {{storylink|Puppet}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Following a confrontation with the Decepticons, the Autobots arrived on Cybertron, only to find it had already been conquered by Galvatron. The Street Action Mini-Cons jumped out of their airlock to form a glowing green shield, which Alexis realized was to protect against Unicron. The Mini-Cons did return, but soon tried to sneak down to Cybertron&#039;s surface. Though Carlos feared for their safety, Alexis and Rad favored letting them go down to the surface, as the little ones had a right to walk around on their home planet. {{storylink|Uprising (Armada)|Uprising}} With the Mini-Cons gone, the kids were left with nothing much to do but watch the lights of battle on the surface. They did try to stop Hot Shot making a one-robot mission to the heart of the Decepticon stronghold to warn Galvatron about the impending threat of Unicron, but then Rad persuaded everyone to let him go ahead with it. {{storylink|Dash (episode)|Dash}}&lt;br /&gt;
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They later received a message from High Wire that Thrust had stolen the Star Saber, Skyboom Shield, and Requiem Blaster, and was at that moment speeding towards the center of Cybertron, being pursued by Starscream, Hot Shot, and [[Wheeljack (Armada)|Wheeljack]]. The trio teamed up with their partner Mini-Cons and joined in the chase, catching up to Starscream just as he confronted Thrust. Alexis called out Starscream&#039;s name, and so Thrust decided to distract Starscream by shooting the humans with the Blaster. Starscream, remembering the kindness they had shown him when he defected, bravely leaped into the path of the Blaster, dying to save the humans. &lt;br /&gt;
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At that point, time warped and the kids found themselves millions of years in the past, in an [[Splinter timeline|alternate timeline]]. They encountered Hot Shot, apparently being molested by creepy tentacles; Hot Shot revealed that the Mini-Cons had been created by Unicron, and the Transformers&#039; use of them had led to the downfall of the entire race.&lt;br /&gt;
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With that happy thought, the kids were sent back even further in time, where they witnessed the first Mini-Cons being spawned. Among these were High Wire, Sureshock, and Grindor, but they didn&#039;t recognise the kids. Rad grabbed High Wire, and the little robot imprinted in some way on the little human. High Wire gained both free will and a somewhat childish disposition, which then spread telepathically among all the other Mini-Cons. Rad urged the Mini-Cons to leave Cybertron and go to Earth, thus creating a temporal paradox.&lt;br /&gt;
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Finally, the kids were warped back to a few seconds back before Thrust killed Starscream, allowing the Mini-Cons to combine into Perceptor and knock Thrust&#039;s aim off. Thrust&#039;s blast was redirected towards the ceiling Starscream was saved. However, the ceiling then collapsed, but Starscream used his own body to shield the kids while Thrust flew off. At that point, Hot Shot and Wheeljack arrived. {{storylink|Drift (episode)|Drift}} They explained the situation, and the fact that Starscream had saved them. Hot Shot ordered them to return to the &#039;&#039;Axalon&#039;&#039;, but the kids managed to persuade him to let them tag along. The kids and carbots sped along behind Starscream, following him through a portal to an organic-looking area where Thrust and Sideways were waiting; Alexis put on her necklace at this point.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thrust had placed that Saber, Shield, and Blaster in hollows with which to energise Unicron. While the Transformers dealt with Unicron&#039;s minions and the various parasites and tentacles, the kids tried to rouse the Mini-Cons from their dormant state. They managed to get the Saber, but Sideways made off with the Blaster and Shield.&lt;br /&gt;
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The team continued to explore the tunnels, and the various organic... things soon separated Alexis and Starscream from the rest. Starscream transformed to jet mode to fly Alexis to safety, but she dropped her necklace. Rather than leave it in order to escape safely, she jumped out of Starscream&#039;s cockpit to retrieve it. Starscream had to turn around and transform to save her.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Sshot-47-3-charm.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Alexis&#039;s Good Luck Necklace doesn&#039;t contain enough luck to match her outfit.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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They made it back to the surface, but it turned out they had been exploring the interior of one of Cybertron&#039;s moon&#039;s for the past while. Then, the ground rumbled and cracked, revealing that the moon was actually Unicron! Jetfire arrived to take the kids to safety, and Wheeljack sped off. Alexis begged Starscream to stay, and he considered it, but realized he&#039;d just end up betraying her again, and left. She was pretty upset by that. {{storylink|Portent}}&lt;br /&gt;
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As for Starscream, he interrupted a rather aggressive negotiation between Optimus Prime and Megatron, battling his old commander to prove that the threat of Unicron was very real. Although Galvatron was fused with Tidal Wave and wielding the Star Saber, the two somehow seemed equally matched. That is until Starscream decided to de-energize his sword and let Galvatron run him through, nice job there Screamer. When Starscream died [[Good Luck Necklace|Alexis&#039;s pendant]] cracked, indicating that something had just gone horribly wrong. She was even more upset by that. {{storylink|Cramp}} Still, she was able to attend the meeting at which the Autobots and Decepticons agreed to suspend hostilities until the defeat of Unicron, and though sad that Starscream wasn&#039;t where, she was glad he had achieved his aim of temporarily uniting the factions. {{storylink|Alliance}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Cramp-AlexismournsStarscream.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.1|&amp;quot;They told me mullets were making a comeback.  They lied!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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When Optimus Prime and Galvatron managed to sneak inside Unicron, the Street Action Mini-Cons decided the follow, and the trio tagged along as well to help in any way they could. {{storylink|Union}} They found the two leaders restrained by Unicron&#039;s tentacles, with Unicron trying to verbally break Optimus Prime through Sideways&#039; vocal synthesizer. Unicron destroyed the Mini-Cons&#039; human-derived personalities, restoring them to blank drones, and then dragged the kids into a bizarre mindscape. However, the kids&#039; mental fortitude was strong enough not only to break Unicron&#039;s thrall over them, but also to restore the individual personalities of the Mini-Cons. The kids and Mini-Cons then managed to release the weapons, allowing Optimus Prime to blow up Sideways with the Requiem Blaster.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, on the way out, Galvatron challenged Optimus Prime to a final battle, {{storylink|Origin}} on the grounds that as long as both of them still existed, the hatred and enmity would last forever and thus Unicron would never be permanently defeated. The kids fled, and were picked up by Jetfire and Cyclonus on Unicron&#039;s surface. Optimus Prime won the battle, and Unicron and Galvatron were both (apparently) destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hot Shot and Jetfire returned the kids to Earth, where they said tearful (but temporary) goodbyes. Alexis pondered her pendant, wistfully remembering Starscream. {{storylink|Mortal Combat}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:EnergonTVAlexis.jpg|left|thumb|Saturn Queen.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Soon after the defeat of Unicron and the reunification of the Cybertronians under the Autobot flag, Alexis travelled to Cybertron as part of the human delegation. {{storylink|Cybertron City (episode)|Cybertron City}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Ten years later, she worked as a diplomat on behalf of the [[Earth]] Federation, usually as a liaison between the nations of Earth and the Cybertronian Autobot-Decepticon alliance. Alexis traveled to [[Ocean City]] to tell the human crew and their Cybertronian allies about the Federation&#039;s decision to declare a position of neutrality in the latest Transformers conflict. While Alexis now represented the interests of Earth, she still had faith in Optimus Prime and trusted his decisions in the Energon war, just as she trusted him during [[the Unicron Battles]]. {{storylink|Energon Stars}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After the Battle of the Asteroid Belt, Alexis travelled to [[Ocean City]] to discuss the creation of a global [[energon grid]] to protect Earth from Alpha Q-related attacks. She was on hand to greet [[Brian Jones (Energon)|Dr. Brian Jones]], who responded in a perverted manner that probably made her wish she wasn&#039;t there. {{storylink|Battle of the Asteroid Belt}} When construction got underway, she offered to requisition more supplies and manpower, but Dr. Jones reassured her they had quite enough resources to hand. {{storylink|Energon Tower}} &lt;br /&gt;
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Shortly thereafter, she accompanied the Autobots and Earth Federation personnel to [[Jungle City]], where Kicker had received a vision of impending disaster. She and [[Sally Jones (Energon)|Sally]] were removed from the scene before the fighting began.&lt;br /&gt;
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As Kicker had predicted, the Decepticons arrived to raid the city. Things went badly for the Autobots, and they were forced to blow it up. Alexis reluctantly supported this move, reasoning that humans had survived the fall of civilizations before, and they would survive this. {{storylink|Crisis in Jungle City}} &lt;br /&gt;
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Later, with Cybertron in danger, Dr. Jones sent all of Earth&#039;s energon to Cybertron. Alexis objected to this on the grounds that it would leave Earth vulnerable, but eventually gave in. {{storylink|Open Fire!}} She then arranged for Jungle City to be rebuilt on top of a newly-discovered energon deposit on Earth. {{storylink|Team Optimus Prime}}&lt;br /&gt;
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She wouldn&#039;t be seen again for another ten years or so.&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Cybertron&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Alexis cybertron.jpg|left|thumb|Psst... pssst... over here!]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:CybertronArmadaKids.jpg|thumb|The seeds of the future lie buried in the past. Or something.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Alexis continued on in her governmental job, and by 2030 had apparently come to work quite closely with the President in some way, given that she was the only other person present on stage when the President appointed [[Mike Franklin|Colonel Franklin]] Earth&#039;s ambassador to Cybertron. Subsequently, she, Rad and Carlos were among the humans who bid farewell to the Autobots as they departed Earth to begin a new [[space bridge]] construction program. {{storylink|Beginning}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|The images of Alexis, Rad, Carlos and [[Kicker Jones|Kicker]] with spectral characters from prior series did not appear in the &#039;&#039;Galaxy Force&#039;&#039; version of the show, as at the time [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] had taken the position of the show being a [[continuity|continuity reboot]]... a position they later [[retcon]]ned, placing it as the direct sequel to &#039;&#039;Super Link&#039;&#039; as was originally planned. Confused yet? Interestingly, the shot of Alexis on-stage &#039;&#039;&#039;was&#039;&#039;&#039; in the original...}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
The [[multiverse|multiversal]] news source &#039;&#039;[[ALTernity Today]]&#039;&#039; reported that Alexis Thi Dang of [[universal stream|Aurex 802.23 Alpha]] won the Whig Party primary for [[President of the United States]]. She ran on a platform for a stronger alliance between Earth and Cybertron. {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|AllSpark Almanac II}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Dreamwave &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
====&#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Armada3-Alexis.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.66|Alexis rocks the muttonchops.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Alexis helped Rad and Carlos with [[Project Supernova]], although she was rather cynical about it actually achieving flight. While she ran into some problems on launch day, including homework and Rad&#039;s insistence on playing secret agent (she was Agent Bubblegum), Alexis helped throw the Project Supernova off a cliff. Her cynicism was turned around when the craft actually managed to stay airborne, but it soon crashed due to [[Sid (Armada)|outside]] [[Seth|interference]]. Alexis was pissed and about to go home when Rad fell into a cave and accidentally awakened [[Sparkplug (Armada)|four]] [[Street Action Mini-Con Team (Armada)|alien robots]], whom he promptly hid in his garage. This didn&#039;t serve to improve Alexis&#039;s mood any, as she felt the robots could be dangerous and that they should tell people about them. Rad and Carlos eventually calmed her down, which was good as the robots turned out to be nice guys who built them a new Project Supernova. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 3|Armada #3}} However, while the kids and bots were flying around on their vehicle, they were attacked by [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] and fled back to the garage, where an angry Alexis demanded an explanation. The robots told the kids that they were [[Mini-Con]]s from the planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], and that Megatron was a [[Decepticon]] out to capture them. Mad that she and her friends  had been pulled into another race&#039;s war, Alexis began to argue with Rad, but Carlos made them both realize that they had to lure Megatron away from their neighborhood. The kids and Mini-Cons fled to a nearby canyon, where they found [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] and his [[Autobot]]s. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 4|Armada #4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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While Alexis and the others were almost captured and killed by [[Demolishor (Armada)|Demolishor]], the Autobots and Mini-Cons soon drove the Decepticons away. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 5|Armada #5}} Unfortunately, as the kids were playing around in a forest some time later, Optimus Prime visited them and explained that he couldn&#039;t let them get involved with the Transformers&#039; war any longer. Alexis and her friends were subsequently forbidden from hanging out with the Street Action Team. Sparkplug, who was against this, broke order and took the kids with him to rescue some Mini-Cons from the Decepticon base. Their mission was to [[Mini-Con panic-pager|call for help]] if Sparkplug&#039;s infiltration team wasn&#039;t back within 30 minutes. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 6|Armada #6}} When the team failed to return, Alexis and the others called for help and ended up summoning the [[Land Military Mini-Con Team]], although it took some convincing to get them to help Sparkplug. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 7|Armada #7}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Armada8-gradesslipping.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Some time between issue 3 and now she hit puberty.]]&lt;br /&gt;
After a day at school, Alexis and her friends were riding around on the Street Action Team and eating burgers when the Mini-Cons suddenly stopped responding to them and sped away for an unknown destination. The kids were unable to get off until they came to a halt, which they did next to a [[Mini-Con Ark|mysterious monolith]] in [[Kansas]]. When the Mini-Cons entered the structure, Rad followed them, and Alexis could only watch as the monolith launched into space with her friend onboard. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 8|Armada #8}} Optimus Prime explained that Rad had been taken to the [[Moon (moon)|Moon]], and Alexis and Carlos couldn&#039;t do much other than urge the Autobots to save him. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 9|Armada #9}} While Optimus managed to retrieve a starship to travel to the Moon with, he refused to endanger the humans by letting them come as well. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 10|Armada #10}} Fortunately, [[simulcrum]] technology allowed them to be on the ship &amp;quot;in spirit&amp;quot;, and Alexis was eventually reunited with Rad. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 11|Armada #11}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After staying out of the Transformer conflict for a while, Alexis, Rad and Carlos learned that the Mini-Cons were all returning to Cybertron to fight against [[Unicron]]. They said their goodbyes to the Street Action Team, then watched as the Transformers entered a [[space bridge]] and left Earth. {{storylink|The End}} Some time after the conflict on Earth had ended, Alexis began to compile a comprehensive database of information on several Transformers. She was unaware that this information (which, in several cases, contradicted actual events) was planted into her mind by [[Over-Run (Armada)|Over-Run]]. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye: Transformers: Armada|More Than Meets The Eye}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:What Lies Beneath dusty protest.jpg|left|upright=1.66|thumb|The first protest she ever participated in was against having to wear the same color every day.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In the ten years that followed the Transformers&#039; departure from Earth, Alexis became an activist, traveling around the world with other like-minded individuals to (violently) protest the misuse of Earth&#039;s natural resources.  &lt;br /&gt;
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One such trip found her in [[Australia]], protesting [[Alterenergy]]&#039;s [[Energon|01 Source]] research. Her group&#039;s protest was interrupted when the Transformers returned to Earth in the form of the [[Terrorcon (Energon)|Terrorcons]] and attacked the Alterenergy excavation site. Alexis was horrified that they were getting dragged into the Transformer war again, but ended up rushing straight into it to save a young teenager named [[Kicker Jones|Kicker]] from [[Battle Ravage]] by shooting the beast in the face with a flare gun. {{storylink|What Lies Beneath}} The two tried to escape on a motorcycle, but ended up crashing it and getting captured by Battle Ravage, who brought them to [[Scorponok (Energon)|Scorponok]]. {{storylink|What Lies Beneath, Part Two}} The Terrorcon leader used Alexis as a hostage, threatening to kill her if Kicker wouldn&#039;t help him find 01 Source. Fortunately, Rad, who now worked for Alterenergy, came to her aid... or at least it would&#039;ve been her aid if Battle Ravage hadn&#039;t been guarding her. They ended up escaping thanks to Carlos, who aided them from space by remotely detonating the collected 01 Source, knocking the Terrorcon out. {{storylink|What Lies Beneath, Part Three}} After Rad explained to Alexis that 01 Source was Energon—Transformer fuel—and that Kicker could sense it, the two were suddenly reunited with Optimus Prime, who had arrived to fight the Terrorcons. The Autobots subsequently drove the Terrorcons away and rescued Kicker, who was surprised that Rad and Alexis knew eachother. {{storylink|What Lies Beneath, Part Four}}&lt;br /&gt;
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As the Autobots officially revealed themselves to the human population, many began to fear for an invasion and protested against them. Alexis was in [[Los Angeles]] at the time, and reflected alongside Rad on how she would probably be protesting as well if she didn&#039;t know any better. Rad wasn&#039;t happy to hear this, nor was he happy about her way of life, as her frequent trips around the globe meant she never stuck around. Alexis explained that she had merely grown up and didn&#039;t see things in black and white anymore, but the disgruntled Rad just said his goodbyes and left. However, he came back and apolozied as Alexis prepared to leave in a taxi, which made her feel better. Then Terrorcon [[Insecticon (Energon)|Insecticons]] attacked Los Angeles and blew up the taxi. {{storylink|Multiplicity}} Fortunately, she had gotten out in time and was safe and sound and returned to Rad. As he thought Alexis had died in the explosion, Rad had realized how much she truly meant to him, and embraced her and told her never to leave him again. They were both fairly embarrassed afterwards. {{storylink|Multiplicity, Pt. 2}} Using Rad&#039;s truck, they raced away from the Insecticons and to Alterenergy&#039;s west coast headquarters. {{storylink|Multiplicity, Pt. 3}} Upon arrival, Alexis spent some time with Carlos, who explained how Rad planned to use the [[Energon Volant Accumulator]] to aid the Autobots in the fight against the Terrorcons. {{storylink|Multiplicity, Pt. 4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Unreleased energon comic}}&lt;br /&gt;
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As the AlterEnergy collaboration grew between Cybertron and Earth, Alexis became involved with the United Nations in connection with the project. She helped orchestrate a task force to look for Kicker after he went missing. {{storylink|Armageddon Part 2}} Her information helped Rad and his people locate where [[Demolishor (Armada)|Demolishor]] had taken the boy. {{storylink|Armageddon Part 3}} After being rescued, Kicker said goodbye to Alexis, Rad and Carlos before joining the fight against Unicron. {{storylink|Armageddon Part 5}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Panini &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; comics===&lt;br /&gt;
When Rad and Carlos went spelunking, Alexis followed them to make sure they didn&#039;t get themselves killed. She was shocked to see them emerge from the cave with the alien robot [[High Wire (Armada)|High Wire]], but didn&#039;t have much time come to terms with the situation before [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] attacked them and tried to capture the smaller robot. High Wire transformed into a bike and took Alexis and the others to safety, where they met several other robots. [[Sureshock (Armada)|Sureshock]] explained that they were [[Mini-Con]]s who had ended up on Earth after fleeing from the eternal war on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{storylink|First Encounter!}} When the Mini-Cons refused to save [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]], who was getting his aft handed to him by Megatron, Rad decided to do it himself. Alexis protested, but her pleas fell on deaf ears. In the end, Rad taking action caused Megatron to flee and the humans to befriend the Autobots, but Alexis still told him not to let it go to his head. {{storylink|Friends and Foes!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After playing with their new friends on the [[Street Action Mini-Con Team (Armada)|Street Action Mini-Con Team]], Alexis, Rad and Carlos were tasked with finding the [[locator log]] onboard the crashed Mini-Con ship. When they were attacked by [[Demolishor (Armada)|Demolishor]], Alexis again took on the role of warning Rad against taking stupid risks, only for his crazy ideas to work yet again. {{storylink|Panini Armada issue 3|Deep Trouble!}} Going back to her daily life, Alexis later visited the [[Cosmoscope Research Center|local observatory]], but was followed by Sureshock. After Sureshock&#039;s attempts to &amp;quot;help&amp;quot; the observatory crashed their mainframe, Alexis made a run for it and told the story to her friends. {{storylink|Panini Armada issue 3|Just a Memory!}} When the Autobots decided to send the Mini-Cons back to Cybertron, she figured they had no other choice, and told Rad not to get all emotional about it. In the end, the plans fell through and the Mini-Cons remained on Earth. {{storylink|Panini Armada issue 4|No Way Back!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Alexis and her friends were racing with the Street Action Team again when they were suddenly attacked by [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]], out to steal their Mini-Con friends. While the Street Action Team held the Decepticon back in the form of [[Perceptor (Armada)|Perceptor]], Alexis and the others fetched Optimus Prime to help them. {{storylink|Panini Armada issue 7|The Two-Edged Sword}} Shortly afterward, they met [[Amos Hume]] and helped him save the [[Land Military Mini-Con Team]] from the [[Extra-Terrestrial Response Division]]. {{storylink|Panini Armada issue 7|Sale of the Century!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; anthology===&lt;br /&gt;
One [[Halloween]] night, Alexis went Trick-or-Treating with Carlos, Rad and their three [[Mini-Con]]s.  Because she was the mature one, she collected donations for [[Wikipedia:UNICEF|UNICEF]] instead of candy, though she did dress as a princess. {{storylink|Something Robotic This Way Comes}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After Alexis talked Doctor [[Jessica Theist]] into letting her niece [[Kelly (Armada)|Kelly]] come along an archeological dig, she also lent Kelly a computer. And Laserbeak.  And [[Ransack (Armada)|Ransack]] and [[Dune Runner (Armada)|Dune Runner]]. Clearly it pays to be connected. {{storylink|Fire in the Dark}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Bendon &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; books===&lt;br /&gt;
Rad, Carlos, and Alexis talked Optimus Prime into letting them explore some nearby caves in the hopes of finding other Mini-Cons, claiming that he and Carlos had already explored a few of them in the past. The trio succeeded in finding a crystal, but had to be saved by Hot Shot after a surprise Decepticon attack caused a landslide. {{storylink|Cave Catastrophe}} &lt;br /&gt;
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In another adventure, Carlos talked Rad into joining him for a Mini-Con race, to which Alexis invited herself. They foolishly left themselves out in the open, allowing Megatron to attack. Fortunately for them (your mileage may vary), Optimus and Hot Shot were there to save them yet again. {{storylink|Race to Disaster}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Alexis midriff.jpg|100px|thumb|Alexis&#039;s original animation character model.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* According to the now-defunct TV Tokyo &#039;&#039;Micron Densetsu&#039;&#039; website, Alexis was 11 years old at the start of &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039;. The page also stated she was Asian, and that her Japanese name, Alexa, was short for Alexandra.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Meanwhile, according to the liner notes of &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers Legends of the Microns: Sound of Evolution Vol. 2]]&#039;&#039; (the second series soundtrack), there were difficulties coming up with character designs for the kids, as the producers had been given three mandated ethnicities: white, Hispanic, and Asian. The notes go on to further confirm Alexis as being Asian by specifying that she was the daughter of &amp;quot;[[Vietnam]]ese boat people&amp;quot;.  The character was named after the daughter of one of the American staff.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:AlexisIPVersion.jpg|100px|thumb|Ridin&#039; nerdy.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Alexis&#039;s ethnicity is particularly more pronounced on the cover of the 2001 Armada IP creative bible.  Why she was so heavily redesigned as compared to the relatively unchanged Carlos and Rad is unknown.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The &#039;&#039;[[Unicron Trilogy guidebooks|Transformers Armada Official Guidebook]]&#039;&#039; backs up the fact that Alexis was 11 years old at the start of &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039;. It also specified that she always got great grades and that she was a computer whiz.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Alexis was not given a last name until the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|AllSpark Almanac II]]&#039;&#039;, which dubbed her &amp;quot;Alexis Thi Dang&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Foreign names===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Japanese:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Alexandra &amp;quot;Alexa&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039; (アレクサ &#039;&#039;Arekusa&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;Alexis is a [[human]] from the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Alexis.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|And once I&#039;m elected, I&#039;ll legalize everything! Bar anything that is illegal.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Alexis Thi Dang&#039;&#039;&#039; wants to be [[President of the United States|President]] when she grows up. &lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===Cartoon continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
{{voiceactor|[[Tabitha St. Germain]] (English), [[Akira Tomisaka]] (Japanese)|[[Anke Kortemeier]] (German), [[Mia Kihl]] (Swedish), [[Elodie Ben]] (Armada, French), [[Victoire Theissmann]] (Energon, French), [[Rebeca Aponte]] (Spanish Latin America)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:ArmadaAlexis.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Get used to this, girlfriend.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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One day, [[Rad White|Rad]] and [[Carlos Lopez (Armada)|Carlos]] went exploring into the caverns deep beneath [[Cosmoscope Research Center]]. Inside, they found the curious remains of a clearly artificial construction, seemingly far in advance of human technology. Rad discovered a [[Mini-Con storage panel]] half buried in the rubble, and against Carlos&#039; advice, his friend was drawn towards the strange object. Touching it, the entire structure began to shake, suddenly springing to life as thousands of computers lit up the walls.&lt;br /&gt;
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At home, Alexis felt the tremors and used her computer to pinpoint the epicenter of the apparent earthquake as the mountain caverns that Rad and Carlos were exploring. Similarly, the scientists and researchers at the observatory were baffled by the sudden  movement of the Earth. As Rad and Carlos made their escape with the artifact, a bright light engulfed the chamber they were in, simultaneously shutting down all electronic equipment in Lincoln, as well as emitting three distinctly coloured distress signals beams into the sky.&lt;br /&gt;
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One beam, green, reached an [[Exodus (Armada)|ancient starship wreck]] on the dark side of the moon, causing it to fire hundreds of smaller beams of green light at the [[Earth]]. The two remaining signal beams, coloured red and purple, continued deep into space until it reached [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Emerging from the cave with Rad, Carlos turned to see a huge glowing purple sphere of pulsating energy floating in mid-air, which soon solidified into a huge robot. This being was [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]], supreme leader of the evil [[Decepticon]]s. As he tried to take the object Rad had found, which had now revealed itself to be [[High Wire (Armada)|High Wire]], a sought-after [[Mini-Con]], suddenly another massive robot ordered Megatron to stand down. He was [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]], leader of the heroic [[Autobot]]s. As the pair grappled, Rad mused that somehow this was all his fault.  {{storylink|First Encounter}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The kids attempted to flee on High Wire, but were stopped by the arrival of [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]] and [[Demolishor (Armada)|Demolishor]]. Demolishor tried to grab the boys, but they were saved by the arrival of [[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]] and [[Red Alert (Armada)|Red Alert]]. Rad fled back into the cave, calling Carlos and Alexis after him. Rad was sure they&#039;d be safe there, but Alexis was concerned that the bigger robots might still follow them. High Wire led the three into a smaller room, to Alexis&#039; further distress; Rad and Carlos, however, assured her that they&#039;d be safer there. While in there, he accessed the ship&#039;s computer and the kids learned about the Transformer conflict.&lt;br /&gt;
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At this point, High Wire activated a hidden storage panel, revealing [[Grindor (Armada)|Grindor]] and [[Sureshock (Armada)|Sureshock]], who bonded to Carlos and Alexis. They took their new friends out to play in the woods, but ran into Megatron. The timely arrival of Optimus Prime initially seemed to Rad and Carlos to make things worse, but when Alexis trusted the big Autobot, the boys did as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus Prime took them into his cab and sped off to a distant location, where he set them down. Unfortunately, Megatron had followed close behind, and so Optimus had to combine with his [[trailer]] to fight him off. {{storylink|Metamorphosis}} The commanders&#039; battle caused a landslide to fall on the kids, but they were shielded by Hot Shot. They then dug up some more Mini-Cons, but two of those were stolen by Cyclonus.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Decepticons retreated, and so the kids and robots made proper introductions. Rad was particularly upset by the idea that he had started a massive war by reactivating High Wire&lt;br /&gt;
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The next day at school, [[Billy (Armada)|Billy]] grilled them over recent earthquakes; Rad and Carlos played dumb, while Alexis pointed out that if there was an earthquake, it would have been mentioned on the news. When Billy asked where Rad got his new bike, Rad claimed it was a birthday present from his grandmother. He and Carlos headed on up to the mountain; on the way, Alexis chewed them out for almost blowing their cover.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the Autobots&#039; base, Optimus Prime presented them with [[Laserbeak (Armada)|Laserbeak]] to aid them with their reconnaissance work; right then, another Mini-Con was detected {{storylink|Base}} in the [[Grand Canyon|Big Canyon]]. The kids ran out with the Autobots, Rad falling slightly behind, and got spiffy new adventure suits on the way.&lt;br /&gt;
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When they got to the canyon, Rad was initially left alone once again when Alexis and Hot Shot sped off, forgetting him. They came back, though. Hot Shot then sped off as fast as he could over the rough terrain, severely shaking up the two humans. Rad sent Laserbeak off to find the Mini-Con, and was himself chided by Alexis for being a coward.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Comrade Autobotuniforms.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]&lt;br /&gt;
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When the Mini-Con was finally found, Optimus Prime, Megatron, and Starscream simultaneously tried to claim it. Rad gave a yell of concern, which inspire High Wire, Grindor, and Sureshock to combine into [[Perceptor (Armada)|Perceptor]], who managed to hold off both Megatron and Starscream. Optimus Prime claimed the Mini-Con—who turned out to be his old partner, [[Sparkplug (Armada)|Sparkplug]]—and the kids helped dig up Hot Shot form where he&#039;d gotten himself buried. {{storylink|Comrade}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, they played tag with Hot Shot, which got him in trouble with Optimus Prime as he was supposed to be helping Red Alert install some equipment. They then went to find a new Mini-Con in [[Antarctica]], where Rad and Alexis rode in Red Alert while Carlos went with Hot Shot. Red Alert ended up having to save Carlos and Hot Shot from Starscream. {{storylink|Soldier (episode)|Soldier}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Rad later came up with the sensible notion of bringing some camping supplies to the Autobot base in case they ever had to stay the night. Soon after he got them to the base, another Mini-Con was detected, and so the good guys all warped over to a forest. Carlos found a path that had been cut down by illegal loggers, prompting Rad to make a speech about how important it is to protect the environment.&lt;br /&gt;
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During this mission, Rad used Laserbeak to find the Mini-Con, [[Swindle (Armada)|Swindle]]. However, the Decepticons also found him, and started a forest fire. At Rad&#039;s insistence, the Autobots temporarily broke off their search to protect the animals, allowing Starscream to make off with Swindle. Rad felt guilty about this, but Optimus Prime assured him that his heart was in the right place. {{storylink|Jungle}} &lt;br /&gt;
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Back at the base, the kids tried to wake up the dormant Mini-Con they&#039;d found in Antarctica, but to no avail. Rad and Carlos fell for the old &amp;quot;pass me that spanner that&#039;s clearly too big for your species to lift&amp;quot; joke and, seeing there was nothing they could do to help, decided to take High Wire and Grindor to a local carnival, followed by [[Sparkplug (Armada)|Sparkplug]], [[Longarm (Armada)|Longarm]], and [[Jolt (Armada)|Jolt]].&lt;br /&gt;
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At the carnival, the boys were initially concerned that bringing five alien robots to a crowded area might blow their cover, but quickly came up with the idea of telling everyone they were super-advanced [[human]]-developed robots that would be available for purchase in the future. After a while, the boys tried to take the robots home, but it turned out that Billy and Fred were also at the carnival, and got suspicious. They tried to capture one of the Mini-Con, causing the entire situation to descend into slapstick farce.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Palace-Security Eyes.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1]]&lt;br /&gt;
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They were saved by the timely arrival of Hot Shot, Sureshock, and Alexis, who managed to get things under control, swore Billy and Fred to secrecy, and gave the lads a good scolding. As punishment, Rad and Carlos had to clean up their quarters back at the base. {{storylink|Carnival}} The kids later accompanied the Autobots to the [[Sahara|Sahara Desert]], and fell into a sand pit after an altercation with Demolishor. They found themselves in an ancient temple, where they were attacked by ancient guardian robots, but fortunately Demolishor was there to blow them up. Further into the temple, they found a Mini-Con storage panel; Carlos accidentally activated a trap, and Rad knocked him out of the way. After that, the floor collapsed, but Perceptor was able to rescue them. Demolishor got the Mini-Con. {{storylink|Palace}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The next day, back in America, Billy and Fred pursued the three to the Autobot base. Rad, Carlos, and Alexis all tried to outrun them, but soon had to split up when Cyclonus attempted to capture them. Cyclonus chased after Rad, but was thrown off the trail by Laserbeak and so captured Billy and Fred instead, intending to hold them for ransom. They tracked Laserbeak to a ghost town, where the kids tried to rescue the bullies, but all ended up being captured by Megatron, who demanded Optimus Prime hand over all their Autobots&#039; Mini-Cons in exchange for the humans&#039; lives. Optimus Prime went through with it, but Megatron, naturally, refused to hand them over. However, Rad was able to use Laserbeak to free all the other humans, and Hot Shot was able to rescue Rad with Fred&#039;s surprising help. {{storylink|Confrontation (episode)|Confrontation}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The day after that, when Hot Shot whined about having to do work on the ship, Rad facetiously offered to take his place. Before anything could come of this, however, a new Mini-Con was detected in a disused subway system. The kids accompanied the Autobots in their search and actually managed to find the storage panel; as soon as they did, however, [[Smokescreen (Armada)|Smokescreen]], who had been discreetly following them, decided to attack. &lt;br /&gt;
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A while after that, the Autobots received a transmission from [[Atlantis]] and took the kids with them to search for yet another Mini-Con. At the ruins, while the Autobots fought the Decepticons, the kids went inside to look around. A [[Hologram|holographic]] display activated, and Carlos chased after the hologram of [[Amphitrite]]; Rad and Alexis followed. &#039;Amphitrite&#039; gave them a canned history of Atlantis, focusing on how its inhabitants used the [[Star Saber (Armada)|Star Saber]] to dominate the world, and were eventually defeated by another civilisation who wielded the [[Skyboom (Armada)|Skyboom Shield]]. Despite this warning of the danger of the Mini-Cons&#039; power, the kids decided to find the Mini-Con in Atlantis anyway, but it was claimed by [[Leader-1 (Armada)|Leader-1]] for the Decepticons. Dejected, the kids left with Optimus Prime. Rad tried to comfort Carlos, {{storylink|Ruin (episode)|Ruin}} and when they got back, mused that at last he knew what happened to Atlantis.&lt;br /&gt;
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He asked Optimus Prime if there was any way to end the war with the Decepticons, to which Optimus gave him the origin of the war and what he knew of the Mini-Cons. Rad changed his line of questioning, asking if there was a way to fight without involving the Mini-Cons; Optimus responded that the Decepticons would use Mini-Cons to fight anyway, and so the Autobots had to do the same to prevent them from capturing any more than they already had.&lt;br /&gt;
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While searching for the Mini-Con of the week, this time on a volcanic island, Rad sent Laserbeak to look for it at Alexis&#039; prompting. They found it, but it was carried off in a lava floe, and eventually claimed by Red Alert. {{storylink|Prehistory}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After that adventure, the trio decided to give Billy and Fred a tour of the Autobot base, but were separated when the Decepticons attacked. Since the bullies were in danger of the automatic defenses, said defenses were shut off, allowing the Decepticons to penetrate deeper into the base that anyone would have liked. However, after a battle, the Star Saber was reassembled and in the hands of Hot Shot, so the day ultimately turned out all right. {{storylink|Swoop (episode)|Swoop}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The next day, Rad and Carlos tried to sort out the human quarters on the base while Alexis and Sureshock were out shopping. For some reason, the fridge was full of tools. {{storylink|Overmatch}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When Alexis tracked down the next Mini-Con, the trio, plus Billy and Fred, rushed off with the Autobots to cheer them on; Rad and Carlos rode in Hot Shot.&lt;br /&gt;
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Rad and Carlos were let out by Hot Shot so the Autobot could focus on fighting Cyclonus. At that point, [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]] arrived and dropped off Billy, who hugged Rad. Alexis arrived momentarily.&lt;br /&gt;
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Back at the base, Alexis and Rad discussed Sideways. Both were deeply suspicious of him , but they decided not to raise their misgivings with Optimus Prime in case it turned out their first impressions were false. {{storylink|Gale}} &lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Conspiracy-Welcome back.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]&lt;br /&gt;
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With Hot Shot feeling naturally depressed about this disaster, all five kids tried to cheer him up by making silly faces. They also accompanied the Autobots on their search for the next Mini-Con, and managed to find it at the same time as [[Blackout (Armada)|Blackout]], and after a scuffle, it was taken by Scavenger for the Decepticons. Soon after, however, Scavenger came over to the Autobots, and revealed he had been a double agent all along. {{storylink|Conspiracy}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In the aftermath of Sideways&#039; betrayal, the trio weren&#039;t exactly eager to trust Scavenger. He seemed to be more interested in sleeping than mentoring Hot Shot, but when the kids tried to raise this with Optimus Prime, his explanation was cut short by the detection of still another Mini-Con. The Autobots warped off to somewhere with a lot of snow, while the kids observed from back at base. Scavenger heroically saved Optimus Prime&#039;s life, very nearly plunging to his own [[death]], and so the kids (and Smokescreen) apologised to him for their earlier suspicions when he got back, Scavenger accepted with characteristic stoicism. {{storylink|Trust (Armada)|Trust}}&lt;br /&gt;
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At some point after that incident, the boys went on a camping trip with Hot Shot and Red Alert, forgetting to tell Alexis. Carlos, Fred, and Billy played in the water and invited a little boy named Shaun to play with them, while Rad tried his hand at fishing.&lt;br /&gt;
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That evening, a storm blew in, resulting in a landslide which trapped Red Alert, Carlos, and Shaun beneath a massive pile of mud. Optimus Prime ordered Red Alert to transform in order to escape, but Rad explained that there was a human news crew present, and so Red Alert transforming would completely blow the Autobots&#039; cover. Hence, he deployed Laserbeak to distract the reporters while the rest of the Autobots rolled in and saved the day in their [[Alternate mode|altmodes]]. Everybody returned to base post haste, where they found Alexis waiting with baited breath. Fond reunions were had be all. {{storylink|Vacation}}&lt;br /&gt;
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All five kids were present at the battle in which [[Blurr (Armada)|Blurr]] made his first appearance. They tried to make friends with the new arrival, but he turned out to belong to the monosyllabic loner school of heroism.However, Blurr did mellow out a little when his refusal to work as a team led to the Decepticons getting their servos on [[Downshift (Armada)|Downshift]], so it mostly turned out all right. {{storylink|Reinforcement}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The next day, Blurr and Hot Shot trained together while the kids watched. They also congratulated Smokescreen for succeeding in a test where Hot Shot failed, even though Hot Shot only failed because he was competing with Blurr in addition to trying to dodge the obstacles.&lt;br /&gt;
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This session was interrupted when Megatron challenged all the Autobots to a final, decisive battle. Due to the danger, the kids were left at the base to watch the proceedings from afar. Megatron would have won if Optimus Prime hadn&#039;t managed to get his hands on the Skyboom shield, and when the Star Saber was used against the shield, a mighty light was released which Rad and Alexis recognised as the same one that they had seen whe High Wire was awoken. This light streaked off into space, to awaken [[Unicron]]. {{storylink|Decisive Battle}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite this victory, the Optimus Prime decided the situation was too dangerous for the kids and barred them from the base. Frustrated, they wandered off, but were soon joined by the [[Street Action Mini-Con Team (Armada)|Street Action Mini-Con Team]], who had received a transmission from the Decepticon-allied Mini-Cons on the Moon. While Rad and Fred went to tell Optimus Prime, the rest of the kids and the Mini-Cons headed to the warp gate. However, the transmission turned out to be a trap orchestrated by Megatron, who was seeking to divide and conquer. Rad, Fred, and four of the Autobots were teleported to various locations all over the world, leaving Alexis, Carlos, and Billy behind. Finding herself unable to contact Laserbeak, Alexis hurried back to the base to tell Red Alert and Scavenger about the situation. She then tried to re-establish contact with Laserbeak, which she did, just as Optimus Prime was persuading Megatron&#039;s Mini-Cons to convert to the Autobots&#039; side. She was able to get all the rest of the Autobots to Prime&#039;s location, where they successfully drove off Megatron. {{storylink|Vow}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After that adventure, the kids were allowed back into the base, though no longer went on missions. Alexis got stroppy when Carlos complained about boredom, while Rad tried to keep the two from murdering each other.Despite not being at the front of the action, the war would still impinge on their lives when Sideways hacked the Autobots&#039; computer system. Despite Rad and Alexis&#039; best efforts, Sideways&#039; virus quickly took control of the base and projected himself into it. Faced with no other options, the trio resorted to physically smashing the terminals, which granted them a brief reprieve.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, this relief proved to be short-lived when Sideways sucked the minds of the kids as well as their partner Mini-Cons into a cyberspace landscape of his own devising. Rad and Carlos actually enjoyed the lack of gravity in this new realm for a while before Sideways&#039; digital avatar appeared to them and tried to claim their Mini-Cons.&lt;br /&gt;
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Back at the base, Billy and Fred tried to wake the trio up. Meanwhile, in cyberspace, the kids and Mini-Cons fled Sideways, and discovered that all they saw was just an elaborate illusion. Sideways managed to capture Sureshock, but then Alexis realized that since he had gone to so much effort, he clearly wasn&#039;t in control of this illusion - and also that he couldn&#039;t really harm them.&lt;br /&gt;
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At this, Sideways panicked and made a desperate bid to take the Mini-Cons, but the kids&#039; lack of belief in the world they saw put paid to that plan. At that point, a massive force of evil manifested in cyberspace - Unicron, the one entity Sideways feared! The kids fled back to the meatspace through a portal opened by Red Alert, leaving Sideways to his master&#039;s mercies. {{storylink|Chase (episode)|Chase}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When Fred tried to tell the others about strange lights seen recently in space, Alexis was the only one who seemed concerned. All the kids expressed relief when Sideways appeared on the battlefield during the next Mini-Con related skirmish, as this meant he couldn&#039;t hack their system again. The Autobots won this battle, bringing [[Prowl (Armada)|Prowl]] into the fold, and the kids were all there to welcome him when they took him back to base. {{storylink|Tactician}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In a subsequent battle, Optimus Prime was seriously injured, forcing Jetfire to take command. None of the kids were impressed by the new guy&#039;s constant boasting. They also got a brief history lesson on battles the Autobots had lost due to Thrust&#039;s tactical genius; while Carlos was confident that Jetfire could easily counter Thrust, the others weren&#039;t so sure.&lt;br /&gt;
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As it turned out, the kids were right about Jetfire, as his overconfidence nearly led to the Autobots losing the next Mini-Con to surface. To his credit, Jetfire was contrite, saying he had learned his lesson and would be more cautious in future. {{storylink|Linkup}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The next day, the kids watched Jetfire and Smokescreen arm-wrestling, and Alexis confused Carlos by cheering for both. They also filled in Jetfire on what Sideways had gotten up to. Jetfire then displayed his cunning side by showing the kids a photo of Sideways shooting down Cyclonus, which cast doubt on the turncoat&#039;s allegiance to the Decepticons. The kids tried to figure out what Sideways&#039; deal was, Alexis reasoning that he had a goal other than the Mini-Cons {{storylink|Detection}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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While the Autobots were dealing with [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]], two Mini-Cons were detected in addition to the one the Transformers were at the time specifically fighting over. Alexis was confused by the location data, but after some analysis she discovered that it was pointing at the Moon. At that point, Sideways mockingly congratulated her on her ingenuity and explained that these three Mini-Cons would unite to form the [[Requiem Blaster (Armada)|Requiem Blaster]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Meanwhile, the boys found the other Mini-Con, [[Sky Blast]], in the caves around the base. {{storylink|Awakening}} &lt;br /&gt;
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After some fighting, Sky Blast walked off and played a melody which awoke both Payload on the beach and [[Astroscope]] on the moon; the three Mini-Cons came together and did indeed form the Requiem Blaster, which Optimus Prime obtained and used to obliterate the Decepticons. {{storylink|Desperate}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In the light of this, the kids became concerned about the rights of the Mini-Cons, and so took the [[Space Mini-Con Team]] out to a remote farmhouse where they could be safe. They were followed by Thrust, but he got caught in a set of traps the kids had rigged up which allowed Optimus Prime to come by and save the day. After an impassioned discussion as to why the Mini-Cons should not be viewed as mere weapons, the kids and Mini-Cons both returned to base. {{storylink|Runaway}}&lt;br /&gt;
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All the kids were present when [[Side Swipe (Armada)|Side Swipe]] came to Earth and rather enthusiastically begged to fight alongside Blurr. The kids weren&#039;t terribly impressed, so Billy and Fred went off to play a video game. Alexis chided them for wasting time and resources, and, &#039;&#039;purely&#039;&#039; in the interest of demonstrating how silly their game was, decided to play against them. {{storylink|Past}} Naturally enough, she turned out to be the best of the lot. {{storylink|Past II}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, the kids stayed at the base with Red Alert when the Autobots went out to counter a Decepticon attack. However, this attack proved to be nothing more than a distraction posed by Starscream, while the rest of the &#039;Cons attacked the Autobot base in search of the Requiem Blaster. The kids ran for hiding before the Autobots warped back, and bore witness to Megatron obtaining the Blaster and using it on Smokescreen, apparently killing him. {{storylink|Sacrifice}} However, things would soon improve somewhat when the Starscream joined the ranks of the Autobots. {{storylink|Regeneration (Armada)|Regeneration}} Alexis took a particular shine to him, but Starscream dismissed her and the other human children, as he was only concerned with defeating [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]]. {{storylink|Rescue}} Despite this, the kids asked Starscream to bring them back a souvenir when he and Jetfire travelled to [[Mars (planet)|Mars]] in search of a Mini-Con panel. In spite of his rude, lone-wolf demeanor, Starscream brought back a mysterious green rock for the kids, thus earning him a place in their hearts, in particular Alexis. {{storylink|Mars (episode)|Mars}} Alexis fashioned a pendant from this, which had a mysterious connection to Starscream&#039;s [[spark]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Chamois WHY.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|How dare you? Do you have any idea how much of my sweat and blood went into that thing?]] In return for his kindness, the kids threw Starscream a surprise party, sewing a large [[Chamois of Friendship]] out of several smaller rags. Starscream was touched by this, but unfortunately abandoned the gift ten minutes later when he was duped into returning to the Decepticons by [[Thrust (Armada)|Thrust]], ostensibly so as to destroy Megatron. {{storylink|Crack (episode)|Crack}} In the aftermath, Alexis and Rad tried to calm the more visibly enraged Billy and Carlos, and then they all went to their respective homes, where Alexis clutched her pendant and thought about Starscream.&lt;br /&gt;
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The next day, all the kids returned to the base to discover the Autobots and their allied Mini-Cons working quickly to complete the &#039;&#039;[[Axalon (Armada)|Axalon]]&#039;&#039; in order to retrieve the Decepticons&#039; Mini-cons. The kids discussed Starscream a bit and decided never to speak of him again; Alexis was visibly upset but tried to hide it. At Fred&#039;s suggestion, they all went to see a comet. Afterwards, Alexis, still upset over Starscream, went home, and Rad left with her. Not long after that, the Decepticons launched their assault on Earth using the [[Hydra Cannon]]. {{storylink|Threaten}} Rad and Alexis raced back to their friends, and all the kids just kind of stood around wondering what to do. {{storylink|Crisis}}&lt;br /&gt;
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As it turned out, the Decepticons were thwarted through the [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|noble sacrifice of Optimus Prime]]. The kids all suffered a heartfelt grief.&lt;br /&gt;
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Over the next week, the Autobots busied themselves with completing the &#039;&#039;Axalon&#039;&#039;, but Hot Shot and Scavenger soon came to blows. The kids were confused when the two warped out, but Alexis tracked them to an abandoned highway. Here, it turned out Scavenger was trying to snap Hot Shot out of his own depression, and Alexis realized Hot Shot blamed himself for Prime&#039;s death. When the rest of the Autobots joined in abusing Hot Shot, the kids tried to persuade them that bullying their youngest member wouldn&#039;t help anything, but were overruled by Red Alert, who insisted that they had to get this out of their system.&lt;br /&gt;
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After a while of this, Hot Shot did come to terms with Optimus Prime&#039;s death, and everybody&#039;s morale was raised; it was raised so much so, in fact, that Hot Shot was chosen as the Autobots&#039; new commander. {{storylink|Remorse}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Under Hot Shot&#039;s understandably unsteady command, the &#039;&#039;Axalon&#039;&#039; was soon completed and preparations made to depart for Cybertron. The kids were looking forward to seeing another planet, and so were naturally miffed when Hot Shot told them that he was leaving them on Earth where it was safe. All the kids glumly returned home, but ever hopeful, Alexis packed her bags anyway and, along with Rad and Carlos, headed for the Autobot base the next morning.&lt;br /&gt;
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When they arrived, Hot Shot once again insisted that it was too dangerous for them to come along. Upon hearing this, the Mini-Cons collectively rebelled and blocked all the ship&#039;s systems, refusing to budge until the kids were allowed on. Hot Shot relented, and the kids and Autobots blasted off into space. {{storylink|Depart}}&lt;br /&gt;
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During the journey, the kids bore witness to the arrival of thousands of new Mini-Cons and the rebirth of Optimus Prime, {{storylink|Miracle}} the conflict with [[Nemesis Prime (Armada)|Nemesis Prime]], and the Mini-Con powered [[spontaneous recoloration|recoloration]] of several Autobots and Decepticons. {{storylink|Puppet}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Following a confrontation with the Decepticons, the Autobots arrived on Cybertron, only to find it had already been conquered by Galvatron. The Street Action Mini-Cons jumped out of their airlock to form a glowing green shield, which Alexis realized was to protect against Unicron. The Mini-Cons did return, but soon tried to sneak down to Cybertron&#039;s surface. Though Carlos feared for their safety, Alexis and Rad favored letting them go down to the surface, as the little ones had a right to walk around on their home planet. {{storylink|Uprising (Armada)|Uprising}} With the Mini-Cons gone, the kids were left with nothing much to do but watch the lights of battle on the surface. They did try to stop Hot Shot making a one-robot mission to the heart of the Decepticon stronghold to warn Galvatron about the impending threat of Unicron, but then Rad persuaded everyone to let him go ahead with it. {{storylink|Dash (episode)|Dash}}&lt;br /&gt;
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They later received a message from High Wire that Thrust had stolen the Star Saber, Skyboom Shield, and Requiem Blaster, and was at that moment speeding towards the center of Cybertron, being pursued by Starscream, Hot Shot, and [[Wheeljack (Armada)|Wheeljack]]. The trio teamed up with their partner Mini-Cons and joined in the chase, catching up to Starscream just as he confronted Thrust. Alexis called out Starscream&#039;s name, and so Thrust decided to distract Starscream by shooting the humans with the Blaster. Starscream, remembering the kindness they had shown him when he defected, bravely leaped into the path of the Blaster, dying to save the humans. &lt;br /&gt;
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At that point, time warped and the kids found themselves millions of years in the past, in an [[Splinter timeline|alternate timeline]]. They encountered Hot Shot, apparently being molested by creepy tentacles; Hot Shot revealed that the Mini-Cons had been created by Unicron, and the Transformers&#039; use of them had led to the downfall of the entire race.&lt;br /&gt;
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With that happy thought, the kids were sent back even further in time, where they witnessed the first Mini-Cons being spawned. Among these were High Wire, Sureshock, and Grindor, but they didn&#039;t recognise the kids. Rad grabbed High Wire, and the little robot imprinted in some way on the little human. High Wire gained both free will and a somewhat childish disposition, which then spread telepathically among all the other Mini-Cons. Rad urged the Mini-Cons to leave Cybertron and go to Earth, thus creating a temporal paradox.&lt;br /&gt;
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Finally, the kids were warped back to a few seconds back before Thrust killed Starscream, allowing the Mini-Cons to combine into Perceptor and knock Thrust&#039;s aim off. Thrust&#039;s blast was redirected towards the ceiling Starscream was saved. However, the ceiling then collapsed, but Starscream used his own body to shield the kids while Thrust flew off. At that point, Hot Shot and Wheeljack arrived. {{storylink|Drift (episode)|Drift}} They explained the situation, and the fact that Starscream had saved them. Hot Shot ordered them to return to the &#039;&#039;Axalon&#039;&#039;, but the kids managed to persuade him to let them tag along. The kids and carbots sped along behind Starscream, following him through a portal to an organic-looking area where Thrust and Sideways were waiting; Alexis put on her necklace at this point.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thrust had placed that Saber, Shield, and Blaster in hollows with which to energise Unicron. While the Transformers dealt with Unicron&#039;s minions and the various parasites and tentacles, the kids tried to rouse the Mini-Cons from their dormant state. They managed to get the Saber, but Sideways made off with the Blaster and Shield.&lt;br /&gt;
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The team continued to explore the tunnels, and the various organic... things soon separated Alexis and Starscream from the rest. Starscream transformed to jet mode to fly Alexis to safety, but she dropped her necklace. Rather than leave it in order to escape safely, she jumped out of Starscream&#039;s cockpit to retrieve it. Starscream had to turn around and transform to save her.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Sshot-47-3-charm.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Alexis&#039;s Good Luck Necklace doesn&#039;t contain enough luck to match her outfit.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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They made it back to the surface, but it turned out they had been exploring the interior of one of Cybertron&#039;s moon&#039;s for the past while. Then, the ground rumbled and cracked, revealing that the moon was actually Unicron! Jetfire arrived to take the kids to safety, and Wheeljack sped off. Alexis begged Starscream to stay, and he considered it, but realized he&#039;d just end up betraying her again, and left. She was pretty upset by that. {{storylink|Portent}}&lt;br /&gt;
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As for Starscream, he interrupted a rather aggressive negotiation between Optimus Prime and Megatron, battling his old commander to prove that the threat of Unicron was very real. Although Galvatron was fused with Tidal Wave and wielding the Star Saber, the two somehow seemed equally matched. That is until Starscream decided to de-energize his sword and let Galvatron run him through, nice job there Screamer. When Starscream died [[Good Luck Necklace|Alexis&#039;s pendant]] cracked, indicating that something had just gone horribly wrong. She was even more upset by that. {{storylink|Cramp}} Still, she was able to attend the meeting at which the Autobots and Decepticons agreed to suspend hostilities until the defeat of Unicron, and though sad that Starscream wasn&#039;t where, she was glad he had achieved his aim of temporarily uniting the factions. {{storylink|Alliance}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Cramp-AlexismournsStarscream.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.1|&amp;quot;They told me mullets were making a comeback.  They lied!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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When Optimus Prime and Galvatron managed to sneak inside Unicron, the Street Action Mini-Cons decided the follow, and the trio tagged along as well to help in any way they could. {{storylink|Union}} They found the two leaders restrained by Unicron&#039;s tentacles, with Unicron trying to verbally break Optimus Prime through Sideways&#039; vocal synthesizer. Unicron destroyed the Mini-Cons&#039; human-derived personalities, restoring them to blank drones, and then dragged the kids into a bizarre mindscape. However, the kids&#039; mental fortitude was strong enough not only to break Unicron&#039;s thrall over them, but also to restore the individual personalities of the Mini-Cons. The kids and Mini-Cons then managed to release the weapons, allowing Optimus Prime to blow up Sideways with the Requiem Blaster.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, on the way out, Galvatron challenged Optimus Prime to a final battle, {{storylink|Origin}} on the grounds that as long as both of them still existed, the hatred and enmity would last forever and thus Unicron would never be permanently defeated. The kids fled, and were picked up by Jetfire and Cyclonus on Unicron&#039;s surface. Optimus Prime won the battle, and Unicron and Galvatron were both (apparently) destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hot Shot and Jetfire returned the kids to Earth, where they said tearful (but temporary) goodbyes. Alexis pondered her pendant, wistfully remembering Starscream. {{storylink|Mortal Combat}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:EnergonTVAlexis.jpg|left|thumb|Saturn Queen.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Soon after the defeat of Unicron and the reunification of the Cybertronians under the Autobot flag, Alexis travelled to Cybertron as part of the human delegation. {{storylink|Cybertron City (episode)|Cybertron City}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Ten years later, she worked as a diplomat on behalf of the [[Earth]] Federation, usually as a liaison between the nations of Earth and the Cybertronian Autobot-Decepticon alliance. Alexis traveled to [[Ocean City]] to tell the human crew and their Cybertronian allies about the Federation&#039;s decision to declare a position of neutrality in the latest Transformers conflict. While Alexis now represented the interests of Earth, she still had faith in Optimus Prime and trusted his decisions in the Energon war, just as she trusted him during [[the Unicron Battles]]. {{storylink|Energon Stars}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After the Battle of the Asteroid Belt, Alexis travelled to [[Ocean City]] to discuss the creation of a global [[energon grid]] to protect Earth from Alpha Q-related attacks. She was on hand to greet [[Brian Jones (Energon)|Dr. Brian Jones]], who responded in a perverted manner that probably made her wish she wasn&#039;t there. {{storylink|Battle of the Asteroid Belt}} When construction got underway, she offered to requisition more supplies and manpower, but Dr. Jones reassured her they had quite enough resources to hand. {{storylink|Energon Tower}} &lt;br /&gt;
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Shortly thereafter, she accompanied the Autobots and Earth Federation personnel to [[Jungle City]], where Kicker had received a vision of impending disaster. She and [[Sally Jones (Energon)|Sally]] were removed from the scene before the fighting began.&lt;br /&gt;
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As Kicker had predicted, the Decepticons arrived to raid the city. Things went badly for the Autobots, and they were forced to blow it up. Alexis reluctantly supported this move, reasoning that humans had survived the fall of civilizations before, and they would survive this. {{storylink|Crisis in Jungle City}} &lt;br /&gt;
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Later, with Cybertron in danger, Dr. Jones sent all of Earth&#039;s energon to Cybertron. Alexis objected to this on the grounds that it would leave Earth vulnerable, but eventually gave in. {{storylink|Open Fire!}} She then arranged for Jungle City to be rebuilt on top of a newly-discovered energon deposit on Earth. {{storylink|Team Optimus Prime}}&lt;br /&gt;
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She wouldn&#039;t be seen again for another ten years or so.&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Cybertron&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Alexis cybertron.jpg|left|thumb|Psst... pssst... over here!]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:CybertronArmadaKids.jpg|thumb|The seeds of the future lie buried in the past. Or something.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Alexis continued on in her governmental job, and by 2030 had apparently come to work quite closely with the President in some way, given that she was the only other person present on stage when the President appointed [[Mike Franklin|Colonel Franklin]] Earth&#039;s ambassador to Cybertron. Subsequently, she, Rad and Carlos were among the humans who bid farewell to the Autobots as they departed Earth to begin a new [[space bridge]] construction program. {{storylink|Beginning}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|The images of Alexis, Rad, Carlos and [[Kicker Jones|Kicker]] with spectral characters from prior series did not appear in the &#039;&#039;Galaxy Force&#039;&#039; version of the show, as at the time [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] had taken the position of the show being a [[continuity|continuity reboot]]... a position they later [[retcon]]ned, placing it as the direct sequel to &#039;&#039;Super Link&#039;&#039; as was originally planned. Confused yet? Interestingly, the shot of Alexis on-stage &#039;&#039;&#039;was&#039;&#039;&#039; in the original...}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[multiverse|multiversal]] news source &#039;&#039;[[ALTernity Today]]&#039;&#039; reported that Alexis Thi Dang of [[universal stream|Aurex 802.23 Alpha]] won the Whig Party primary for [[President of the United States]]. She ran on a platform for a stronger alliance between Earth and Cybertron. {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|AllSpark Almanac II}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Armada3-Alexis.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.66|Alexis rocks the muttonchops.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Alexis helped Rad and Carlos with [[Project Supernova]], although she was rather cynical about it actually achieving flight. While she ran into some problems on launch day, including homework and Rad&#039;s insistence on playing secret agent (she was Agent Bubblegum), Alexis helped throw the Project Supernova off a cliff. Her cynicism was turned around when the craft actually managed to stay airborne, but it soon crashed due to [[Sid (Armada)|outside]] [[Seth|interference]]. Alexis was pissed and about to go home when Rad fell into a cave and accidentally awakened [[Sparkplug (Armada)|four]] [[Street Action Mini-Con Team (Armada)|alien robots]], whom he promptly hid in his garage. This didn&#039;t serve to improve Alexis&#039;s mood any, as she felt the robots could be dangerous and that they should tell people about them. Rad and Carlos eventually calmed her down, which was good as the robots turned out to be nice guys who built them a new Project Supernova. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 3|Armada #3}} However, while the kids and bots were flying around on their vehicle, they were attacked by [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] and fled back to the garage, where an angry Alexis demanded an explanation. The robots told the kids that they were [[Mini-Con]]s from the planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], and that Megatron was a [[Decepticon]] out to capture them. Mad that she and her friends  had been pulled into another race&#039;s war, Alexis began to argue with Rad, but Carlos made them both realize that they had to lure Megatron away from their neighborhood. The kids and Mini-Cons fled to a nearby canyon, where they found [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] and his [[Autobot]]s. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 4|Armada #4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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While Alexis and the others were almost captured and killed by [[Demolishor (Armada)|Demolishor]], the Autobots and Mini-Cons soon drove the Decepticons away. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 5|Armada #5}} Unfortunately, as the kids were playing around in a forest some time later, Optimus Prime visited them and explained that he couldn&#039;t let them get involved with the Transformers&#039; war any longer. Alexis and her friends were subsequently forbidden from hanging out with the Street Action Team. Sparkplug, who was against this, broke order and took the kids with him to rescue some Mini-Cons from the Decepticon base. Their mission was to [[Mini-Con panic-pager|call for help]] if Sparkplug&#039;s infiltration team wasn&#039;t back within 30 minutes. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 6|Armada #6}} When the team failed to return, Alexis and the others called for help and ended up summoning the [[Land Military Mini-Con Team]], although it took some convincing to get them to help Sparkplug. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 7|Armada #7}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Armada8-gradesslipping.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Some time between issue 3 and now she hit puberty.]]&lt;br /&gt;
After a day at school, Alexis and her friends were riding around on the Street Action Team and eating burgers when the Mini-Cons suddenly stopped responding to them and sped away for an unknown destination. The kids were unable to get off until they came to a halt, which they did next to a [[Mini-Con Ark|mysterious monolith]] in [[Kansas]]. When the Mini-Cons entered the structure, Rad followed them, and Alexis could only watch as the monolith launched into space with her friend onboard. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 8|Armada #8}} Optimus Prime explained that Rad had been taken to the [[Moon (moon)|Moon]], and Alexis and Carlos couldn&#039;t do much other than urge the Autobots to save him. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 9|Armada #9}} While Optimus managed to retrieve a starship to travel to the Moon with, he refused to endanger the humans by letting them come as well. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 10|Armada #10}} Fortunately, [[simulcrum]] technology allowed them to be on the ship &amp;quot;in spirit&amp;quot;, and Alexis was eventually reunited with Rad. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 11|Armada #11}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After staying out of the Transformer conflict for a while, Alexis, Rad and Carlos learned that the Mini-Cons were all returning to Cybertron to fight against [[Unicron]]. They said their goodbyes to the Street Action Team, then watched as the Transformers entered a [[space bridge]] and left Earth. {{storylink|The End}} Some time after the conflict on Earth had ended, Alexis began to compile a comprehensive database of information on several Transformers. She was unaware that this information (which, in several cases, contradicted actual events) was planted into her mind by [[Over-Run (Armada)|Over-Run]]. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye: Transformers: Armada|More Than Meets The Eye}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:What Lies Beneath dusty protest.jpg|left|upright=1.66|thumb|The first protest she ever participated in was against having to wear the same color every day.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In the ten years that followed the Transformers&#039; departure from Earth, Alexis became an activist, traveling around the world with other like-minded individuals to (violently) protest the misuse of Earth&#039;s natural resources.  &lt;br /&gt;
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One such trip found her in [[Australia]], protesting [[Alterenergy]]&#039;s [[Energon|01 Source]] research. Her group&#039;s protest was interrupted when the Transformers returned to Earth in the form of the [[Terrorcon (Energon)|Terrorcons]] and attacked the Alterenergy excavation site. Alexis was horrified that they were getting dragged into the Transformer war again, but ended up rushing straight into it to save a young teenager named [[Kicker Jones|Kicker]] from [[Battle Ravage]] by shooting the beast in the face with a flare gun. {{storylink|What Lies Beneath}} The two tried to escape on a motorcycle, but ended up crashing it and getting captured by Battle Ravage, who brought them to [[Scorponok (Energon)|Scorponok]]. {{storylink|What Lies Beneath, Part Two}} The Terrorcon leader used Alexis as a hostage, threatening to kill her if Kicker wouldn&#039;t help him find 01 Source. Fortunately, Rad, who now worked for Alterenergy, came to her aid... or at least it would&#039;ve been her aid if Battle Ravage hadn&#039;t been guarding her. They ended up escaping thanks to Carlos, who aided them from space by remotely detonating the collected 01 Source, knocking the Terrorcon out. {{storylink|What Lies Beneath, Part Three}} After Rad explained to Alexis that 01 Source was Energon—Transformer fuel—and that Kicker could sense it, the two were suddenly reunited with Optimus Prime, who had arrived to fight the Terrorcons. The Autobots subsequently drove the Terrorcons away and rescued Kicker, who was surprised that Rad and Alexis knew eachother. {{storylink|What Lies Beneath, Part Four}}&lt;br /&gt;
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As the Autobots officially revealed themselves to the human population, many began to fear for an invasion and protested against them. Alexis was in [[Los Angeles]] at the time, and reflected alongside Rad on how she would probably be protesting as well if she didn&#039;t know any better. Rad wasn&#039;t happy to hear this, nor was he happy about her way of life, as her frequent trips around the globe meant she never stuck around. Alexis explained that she had merely grown up and didn&#039;t see things in black and white anymore, but the disgruntled Rad just said his goodbyes and left. However, he came back and apolozied as Alexis prepared to leave in a taxi, which made her feel better. Then Terrorcon [[Insecticon (Energon)|Insecticons]] attacked Los Angeles and blew up the taxi. {{storylink|Multiplicity}} Fortunately, she had gotten out in time and was safe and sound and returned to Rad. As he thought Alexis had died in the explosion, Rad had realized how much she truly meant to him, and embraced her and told her never to leave him again. They were both fairly embarrassed afterwards. {{storylink|Multiplicity, Pt. 2}} Using Rad&#039;s truck, they raced away from the Insecticons and to Alterenergy&#039;s west coast headquarters. {{storylink|Multiplicity, Pt. 3}} Upon arrival, Alexis spent some time with Carlos, who explained how Rad planned to use the [[Energon Volant Accumulator]] to aid the Autobots in the fight against the Terrorcons. {{storylink|Multiplicity, Pt. 4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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As the AlterEnergy collaboration grew between Cybertron and Earth, Alexis became involved with the United Nations in connection with the project. She helped orchestrate a task force to look for Kicker after he went missing. {{storylink|Armageddon Part 2}} Her information helped Rad and his people locate where [[Demolishor (Armada)|Demolishor]] had taken the boy. {{storylink|Armageddon Part 3}} After being rescued, Kicker said goodbye to Alexis, Rad and Carlos before joining the fight against Unicron. {{storylink|Armageddon Part 5}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When Rad and Carlos went spelunking, Alexis followed them to make sure they didn&#039;t get themselves killed. She was shocked to see them emerge from the cave with the alien robot [[High Wire (Armada)|High Wire]], but didn&#039;t have much time come to terms with the situation before [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] attacked them and tried to capture the smaller robot. High Wire transformed into a bike and took Alexis and the others to safety, where they met several other robots. [[Sureshock (Armada)|Sureshock]] explained that they were [[Mini-Con]]s who had ended up on Earth after fleeing from the eternal war on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{storylink|First Encounter!}} When the Mini-Cons refused to save [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]], who was getting his aft handed to him by Megatron, Rad decided to do it himself. Alexis protested, but her pleas fell on deaf ears. In the end, Rad taking action caused Megatron to flee and the humans to befriend the Autobots, but Alexis still told him not to let it go to his head. {{storylink|Friends and Foes!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After playing with their new friends on the [[Street Action Mini-Con Team (Armada)|Street Action Mini-Con Team]], Alexis, Rad and Carlos were tasked with finding the [[locator log]] onboard the crashed Mini-Con ship. When they were attacked by [[Demolishor (Armada)|Demolishor]], Alexis again took on the role of warning Rad against taking stupid risks, only for his crazy ideas to work yet again. {{storylink|Panini Armada issue 3|Deep Trouble!}} Going back to her daily life, Alexis later visited the [[Cosmoscope Research Center|local observatory]], but was followed by Sureshock. After Sureshock&#039;s attempts to &amp;quot;help&amp;quot; the observatory crashed their mainframe, Alexis made a run for it and told the story to her friends. {{storylink|Panini Armada issue 3|Just a Memory!}} When the Autobots decided to send the Mini-Cons back to Cybertron, she figured they had no other choice, and told Rad not to get all emotional about it. In the end, the plans fell through and the Mini-Cons remained on Earth. {{storylink|Panini Armada issue 4|No Way Back!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Alexis and her friends were racing with the Street Action Team again when they were suddenly attacked by [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]], out to steal their Mini-Con friends. While the Street Action Team held the Decepticon back in the form of [[Perceptor (Armada)|Perceptor]], Alexis and the others fetched Optimus Prime to help them. {{storylink|Panini Armada issue 7|The Two-Edged Sword}} Shortly afterward, they met [[Amos Hume]] and helped him save the [[Land Military Mini-Con Team]] from the [[Extra-Terrestrial Response Division]]. {{storylink|Panini Armada issue 7|Sale of the Century!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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One [[Halloween]] night, Alexis went Trick-or-Treating with Carlos, Rad and their three [[Mini-Con]]s.  Because she was the mature one, she collected donations for [[Wikipedia:UNICEF|UNICEF]] instead of candy, though she did dress as a princess. {{storylink|Something Robotic This Way Comes}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After Alexis talked Doctor [[Jessica Theist]] into letting her niece [[Kelly (Armada)|Kelly]] come along an archeological dig, she also lent Kelly a computer. And Laserbeak.  And [[Ransack (Armada)|Ransack]] and [[Dune Runner (Armada)|Dune Runner]]. Clearly it pays to be connected. {{storylink|Fire in the Dark}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Bendon &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; books===&lt;br /&gt;
Rad, Carlos, and Alexis talked Optimus Prime into letting them explore some nearby caves in the hopes of finding other Mini-Cons, claiming that he and Carlos had already explored a few of them in the past. The trio succeeded in finding a crystal, but had to be saved by Hot Shot after a surprise Decepticon attack caused a landslide. {{storylink|Cave Catastrophe}} &lt;br /&gt;
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In another adventure, Carlos talked Rad into joining him for a Mini-Con race, to which Alexis invited herself. They foolishly left themselves out in the open, allowing Megatron to attack. Fortunately for them (your mileage may vary), Optimus and Hot Shot were there to save them yet again. {{storylink|Race to Disaster}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Alexis midriff.jpg|100px|thumb|Alexis&#039;s original animation character model.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* According to the now-defunct TV Tokyo &#039;&#039;Micron Densetsu&#039;&#039; website, Alexis was 11 years old at the start of &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039;. The page also stated she was Asian, and that her Japanese name, Alexa, was short for Alexandra.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Meanwhile, according to the liner notes of &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers Legends of the Microns: Sound of Evolution Vol. 2]]&#039;&#039; (the second series soundtrack), there were difficulties coming up with character designs for the kids, as the producers had been given three mandated ethnicities: white, Hispanic, and Asian. The notes go on to further confirm Alexis as being Asian by specifying that she was the daughter of &amp;quot;[[Vietnam]]ese boat people&amp;quot;.  The character was named after the daughter of one of the American staff.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:AlexisIPVersion.jpg|100px|thumb|Ridin&#039; nerdy.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Alexis&#039;s ethnicity is particularly more pronounced on the cover of the 2001 Armada IP creative bible.  Why she was so heavily redesigned as compared to the relatively unchanged Carlos and Rad is unknown.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The &#039;&#039;[[Unicron Trilogy guidebooks|Transformers Armada Official Guidebook]]&#039;&#039; backs up the fact that Alexis was 11 years old at the start of &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039;. It also specified that she always got great grades and that she was a computer whiz.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Alexis was not given a last name until the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|AllSpark Almanac II]]&#039;&#039;, which dubbed her &amp;quot;Alexis Thi Dang&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Foreign names===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Japanese:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Alexandra &amp;quot;Alexa&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039; (アレクサ &#039;&#039;Arekusa&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Starscream is a [[Decepticon]] and briefly a [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Starscreamg1.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Let me guess. You&#039;re gonna attempt to overthrow Megatron, fail, cry, then repeat the cycle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Starscream&#039;&#039;&#039; is the treacherous Decepticon [[Air Commander]] and the deadliest of the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]]. The self-proclaimed pride of the [[Cybertron War Academy]], he&#039;s famous not only for his incredible skill, but also for his limitless (and troublesome) ambition. Starscream believes that he is more suited for command than [[Decepticon leader]] [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]. Thankfully for Megatron, Starscream&#039;s mutinous, power-grabbing plots are almost always transparent, and he can never muster up enough patience to complete a grandiose power play. Even on the few times he has taken control of the Decepticons, he quickly loses control of a situation, but is too arrogant to realize when he&#039;s in over his head. He never learns from his mistakes, but then again, Megatron doesn&#039;t either, seeing as how he&#039;s never turned Starscream into [[Slag (slang)|slag]]. Despite his constant failures, Starscream believes it is only a matter of time before he prevails—his destiny is inevitable.&lt;br /&gt;
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Starscream&#039;s never give up attitude extends even to the afterlife: unlike most Transformers, he has a mutant, indestructible [[Spark]]. His life-force cannot be destroyed and can persist even without a body to contain it. However, there is no indication that Starscream (or anybody else) was aware of this fact prior to his destruction.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{bigquote|&#039;&#039;Why?&#039;&#039; That&#039;s what they &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; asked me. Why him... why &#039;&#039;Starscream&#039;&#039;? Why, of all the Decepticons, did I decide to revitalize the one whose record of deceit and betrayal is &#039;&#039;legend&#039;&#039;? Because I&#039;m an &#039;&#039;idiot&#039;&#039;, that&#039;s why!|Megatron on Starscream|&amp;quot;[[Total War!]]&amp;quot;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===Marvel Comics continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:ClubCon flyme.jpg|left|thumb|Quickly! To the traitor-mobile!]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Main|Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity}}&lt;br /&gt;
Formally the political figurehead of the city-state of [[Vos]], Starscream sat ill in his position in the Decepticon ranks, but never posed a real threat to [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] in their early days, delivering only the occasional snipe or criticism that the Decepticon leader would be quick to put down with a show of force. Deactivated following a battle with [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], Starscream spent several years in stasis, but once reactivated, he quickly ingratiated himself with the new Decepticon leader [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] and through information gained from him was able to obtain the cosmic power of the [[Underbase]]. After going on a legendary rampage across Earth and slaying dozens of Transformers, Starscream himself was destroyed by the Underbase&#039;s unstoppable energies, but his corpse was recovered and brought back to life by Megatron as a mindless [[Pretender]]. Regaining his faculties thanks to [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet&#039;s]] sabotage, Starscream joined [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]&#039;s Decepticon cell on Earth, but his new powers led him to be feared and hated by his fellow Decepticons, even more than usual, and he proceeded to break away and help [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] start a [[Decepticon Civil War]]. Teleported to Cybertron to face the threat of [[Unicron]], Starscream fled the planet aboard the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], and was knocked offline again when it crashed to [[Earth]] for a second time. Years later, Megatron defied common sense by once more reactivating him to join in his attempt to retake command of the Decepticons, and unsurprisingly, Starscream betrayed Megatron to [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] in order to briefly gain control of the [[Matrix of Leadership|Creation Matrix]]. The scamp!&lt;br /&gt;
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===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Tud3 starscream smirkiest.jpg|thumb|upright=1.2|&amp;quot;So if I beat [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|you]], will I become the chief Decepticon?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;More people have said that and were sent offline than there are Energon decay products.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity}}&lt;br /&gt;
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A former scientist who joined the Decepticons with gusto after the loss of his friend [[Jetfire (G1)|Skyfire]], Starscream quickly decided that Megatron&#039;s leadership was old and outdated, and that he was the one who should be in charge. Cue nine million years of backstabbing, treachery, cowardice, coups and general disobedience, which continued when the war moved from Cybertron to Earth. In fact, it was Starscream&#039;s refusal to listen to Megatron that kept the war going, when a petty parting blast that he delivered to the Autobot&#039;s crashed starship jostled the body of Optimus Prime into the path of [[Teletraan I (G1)|Teletraan I]]&#039;s restoration beam. Starscream&#039;s scheming was a constant throughout the Earth conflict, and it culminated in his expulsion from the Decepticon ranks, following which he created the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]] to serve as his personal army, only to have them turn on him, forcing him to rejoin Megatron&#039;s ranks.&lt;br /&gt;
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Even in death, Starscream was unstoppable. Following Megatron&#039;s climactic battle with Optimus Prime in 2005, Starscream set his commander&#039;s battered body adrift in space and promptly appointed himself the new Decepticon leader. In the midst of a grandiose coronation ceremony, however, Megatron returned, recreated as [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] by the power of [[Unicron]], and promptly blasted Starscream to ashes. Surprisingly, Starscream&#039;s lifeforce persisted as a ghost, which continued to bedevil the Transformers, even across the gulf of time.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Big Looker storybooks continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:DecepticonsCarShow.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|I have no idea what colors I am!]]&lt;br /&gt;
Starscream and his fellow Seekers performed a threatening flyby over the Autobots&#039; headquarters in order to distract the heroic robots while the other Decepticons stole a tanker of oil that would give them the power to rule the world. Thanks to [[Shooting Star]], the Autobots got wise to the Decepticons&#039; tactics and [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]] blew up the villains by dropping missiles on them. Starscream arrived on the scene to spitefully blow up the oil tanker so that no one could have it, then he and his fellow airborne Decepticons carried off the remains of their fallen comrades. {{storylink|Decepticon Hijack}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Starscream was part of the battle that resulted when the Autobots came to rescue the mind-controlled [[Grapple (G1)|Grapple]] from the Decepticons&#039; clutches. When Grapple was freed from the effects of the [[cerebro-shell]] controlling him, he kicked Megatron over on top of Starscream and Skywarp, winning the day. {{storylink|Insecticon Attack!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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At some point in the future, when Galvatron had taken leadership of the Decepticons, Starscream suggested to his leader that he create a city of his own to gather energy, as the Autobots did with their Autobot City. Galvatron decided to go about it in the most circular way possible, by stealing a robot car on display at a car show that night and duplicating its circuitry to create an army of drones to build said city. While investigating the Decepticons&#039; presence at the show, Kup was captured by Starscream. When the Autobots arrived in response, Starscream threatened Kup&#039;s life to stay their hands, but luckily, Hot Rod soon saved Kup, and the Decepticons were defeated. {{storylink|Car Show Blow Up}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Ladybird Books continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Starscream ladybird books.jpg|215px|thumb|Toy-accurate art makes Starscream ANGRY!]]&lt;br /&gt;
A brash and aggressive character, Starscream was constantly running up against the older, smarter Megatron. He once convinced Rumble to help him attack and destroy an Autobot tower (believed to be for communications) against Megatron&#039;s orders. In the process, he caused Megatron and the other Decepticons to come get him back. (They arrived &#039;&#039;just&#039;&#039; as he was slagging off Megatron.) Since that tower was actually used for channeling lightning storms into power, the entire Decepticon team was viciously injured by an electric surge due to his disobedience. {{storylink|Autobots&#039; Lightning Strike}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Starscream later tried to overthrow Megatron when the commander was off on a mission and requested the other Decepticons rendezvous with him. Starscream&#039;s act of rebellion was to blow up the building he thought Megatron was in and declare himself leader. Megatron turned out to be standing behind him, and he gave Starscream a valuable lesson on leadership (i.e., told him how dumb that was whilst punching him). {{storylink|Megatron&#039;s Fight for Power}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] time-travelled to the 20th Century and took command, Starscream served under him. He&#039;d learnt his lesson since the early days, not trying to overthrow his commander &#039;&#039;once&#039;&#039;. {{storylink|Galvatron&#039;s Air Attack}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Colorforms audiobooks continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; ???&lt;br /&gt;
Starscream was annoyed when Megatron called off the attack on the Autobots which he was leading, and instead instructed him to scout out Doctor [[Heath Blaisedale]]&#039;s solar plant. So annoyed was Starscream, that when he got to the plant and saw the Autobots there, he attacked them anyway. [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] wounded him before an enraged Megatron ordered him to call off the attack, and Starscream and his fellow seekers retired to a location a mile away. Megatron told him off for endangering the solar plant and ordered him to stay there while the other Decepticons went to secure the plant. Partway through the battle, Starscream pointed out to Megatron that the reactor had become too damaged to use, and he should probably retreat. {{storylink|Sun Raid}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===The Battle for Planet Earth===&lt;br /&gt;
{{voiceactor|[[Peter Marinker]] (English)}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|You are a born leader, Starscream; Not only handsome, but clever.|Starscream|[[Espionage!!!!!]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
Starscream was one of the group of Decepticons who followed the Autobots to [[South America]], and undermined Megatron&#039;s leadership whenever possible. The Decepticons attempted to attack the Autobots as the latter were examining [[Mount Sheelah]], only for the volcano to erupt, trapping them with lava. {{storylink|Terror of Mount Sheelah}} Starscream took part in the kidnapping on [[human]]s for use as slave labor. When [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] stole the Decepticons&#039; [[global crystal]], Starscream pursued him, but failed to locate the Autobot, and the Decepticons were forced to release their slaves. {{storylink|Bumblebee to the Rescue (G1)|Bumblebee to the Rescue}} Flying over the [[Scranner Mountain Range]], Starscream&#039;s patrol spotted [[Stanley Lake]] dam, prompting the Decepticons to take it over. Their invasion was again foiled by the Autobots who used the power of the dam against them. {{storylink|Menace at the Dam}}&lt;br /&gt;
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During a meeting of the high-ranked Decepticons, Starscream volunteered to infiltrate the Autobots as a spy. His story about Megatron having a list of Decepticons to bump off after victory was achieved appeared to work, and Starscream was accepted into the Autobot ranks. They even showed him the [[Deuterium Orbital Laser Tracing System]] they&#039;d developed, which would be hidden on [[Mount Levram]]. After Starscream reported back to the Decepticons by radio, he found himself being placed under the guard—the Autobots hadn&#039;t been taken in at all, and when the Decepticons all went to level Mount Levram, the Autobots destroyed their base. Starscream was let go afterwards, but faced a difficult time explaining how he&#039;d been duped. {{storylink|Espionage!!!!!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; Adventure Game Books===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Bombshell starscream uncle jack aunt sue peril from the stars.jpg|100px|thumb]]&lt;br /&gt;
Behind the backs of the other Decepticons, Starscream recruited [[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]] to help him capture the [[Los Palmos observatory]] and its staff [[Jack Richards|Jack]] and [[Sue Richards]] in order to track a weapons pod that had been launched from Cybertron. These weapons woud allow Starscream to defeat the other Transformers and conquer the Earth. It was only thanks to the intervention of the Autobot [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] (with [[you]]r help) that his plans for global domination were thwarted. {{storylink|Peril from the Stars}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|As &amp;quot;Peril from the Stars&amp;quot; is a [[multipath adventure]], Starscream&#039;s plans are not necessarily thwarted. If you choose the wrong path through the book you and Jazz could end up being killed by Bombshell, and Starscream presumably then goes on to conquer the world.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Find Your Fate Junior===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Note|As the following stories are [[multipath adventure]]s, details will vary depending on the path taken. See individual pages for information on alternate paths.}}&lt;br /&gt;
====Dinobots Strike Back====&lt;br /&gt;
Starscream was one of many Decepticons at a somewhat premature victory bonfire celebration atop [[Mount Lomas]] after four of the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]]s had joined their forces, courtesy of Bombshells [[cerebro-shell]]s, and &#039;&#039;reportedly&#039;&#039; crippled the Autobot ranks, assuring the success of Operation Black Coral. Suddenly, their new recruits turned against them, prompting Starscream to fire his laser at [[Slag (G1)|Slag]], which merely bounced the beam straight back and melted his gun. The Autobots emerged victorious that evening, though Starscream&#039;s fate is unclear. &lt;br /&gt;
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Apparently he should have used his cluster-bombs instead, since an alternate path in that same micro-continuity nexus led him to blow [[Seaspray (G1)|Seaspray]] to smithereens with just one of them, ensuring Operation Black Coral&#039;s success. That&#039;s more impressive than it sounds, since Seaspray was a huge destroyer with at least two passengers at the time. Seriously, he was! {{storylink|Dinobots Strike Back}}&lt;br /&gt;
====Battle Drive====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BattledriveBumblebeevsBlitzwingStarscream.jpg|thumb|left|200px]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{storylink|Battle Drive}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====Attack of the Insecticons====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:AttackoftheInsecticonsattackStarscream.jpg|200px|thumb|right]]&lt;br /&gt;
When Kickback spied Autobot activities in an underground cave and came to know of the Sun-Pak, an energy device created by the Autobots&#039; human ally Sparkplug, he opened communications with Decepticon headquarters to inform Megatron of his findings, only to be answered by Starscream. Convincing the Insecticon to relay his findings to him, Starscream saw the Sun-Pak as an opportunity to take control of the Decepticons from Megatron. Leading a squadron of Decepticons to Kickback&#039;s location, Starscream began attacking the Autobots, demanding their surrender lest he and his Decepticons bury the Autobots underneath the crumbling cave&#039;s rubble. He was met with different fates depending on how Optimus Prime responded to his threats.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the event that the Autobots decided to stand their ground and fight, Optimus noted Starscream&#039;s difficulty in flying in the small underground cave. This in turn would open two possibilities for the Autobot leader; order his Autobots to concentrate their firepower on Starscream or continue fighting all of the Decepticons Starscream brought into the fray equally. &lt;br /&gt;
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If Starscream suddenly found himself the sole target of the Autobots&#039; weapons, the Decepticon began to panic, and became unable to relay orders to the troops under his command. Under constant fire, Starscreams began to beg for mercy from his opponents. &lt;br /&gt;
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If Optimus accepted Starscream&#039;s surrender, this only led to Starscream dying at Thundercracker&#039;s hand, as Thundercracker derided Starscream for his cowardice, and blasted him to death. If, however, Optimus continued to attack Starscream despite his pleas, Starscream owed his survival to Thundercracker&#039;s action, as a sonic boom from his subordinate allowed Starscream the opening to kidnap Sparkplug, and order a retreat from his Decepticons, all the while gloating that he would take control of the Decepticons for himself. Hiding out in a plane museum while in his alternate mode, Starscream awaited the cover of night to attempt coercing Sparkplug into building a Sun-Pak for the Decepticons. Calling on Bombshell, Starscream informed the human that he would build the energy device either of his own volition, or thanks to the mind-controlling abilities of Bombshell&#039;s Cerebro-Shells.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the event that Blaster and Buster, who had tracked down Starscream unbeknownst to him, had traded to Megatron an audio-clip of Starscream&#039;s gloats, revealing Starscream&#039;s plan to overthrow his leader, Megatron arrived on scene and berated the seeker for his clandestine activities. Starscream attempts to lie his way out of the situation, explaining that he only ever planned to use the Sun-Pak to benefit Megatron himself. Bombshell does not corroborate Starscream&#039;s story, leaving Megatron to give Starscream an ultimatum; either face the full force of the Decepticon army by himself, or return to Decepticon headquarters for reprogramming. Starscream chooses the later.&lt;br /&gt;
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If Blaster and Buster did not complete an agreement with Megatron, the Decepticon leader arrives on-scene nonetheless, but allows Starscream to go through with his plan of mind-controlling Sparkplug. All of his machinations are for nought, however, as the Cerebro-Shell inadvertently damages Sparkplug&#039;s memory, making it impossible for him to produce the device for the Decepticons.&lt;br /&gt;
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If Buster, Blaster and Bumblebee formulate a plan together to snatch Sparkplug from the Decepticons&#039; clutches, it is Starscream himself who falls prey to the Cerebro-Shell. Hit by Blaster&#039;s Electro-Scrambler, Bombshell misses his mark, and Starscream becomes a mentally malleable moron. Convinced by Blaster that the Autobots are his masters, Starscream releases his captive, and allows the humans and Autobots to escape while an infuriated Bombshell attempts to convince Starscream of his true allegiance. {{storylink|Attack of the Insecticons}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====Earthquake====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:EarthquakeCosmosspies.jpg|thumb|left|200px]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{storylink|Earthquake (book)|Earthquake}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers PD Type&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Starscream pd type.jpg|left|upright=1.05|thumb|HaHA! I have caught the Golden Snitch!]]&lt;br /&gt;
As various [[Decepticon]]s from across the timestream joined forces to track down the all-powerful [[Blackball]]s, Starscream proved most effective at the hunt. Discovering a Blackball, he immediately carried it over to [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] for some praise. Unfortunately, the &amp;quot;Blackball&amp;quot; turned out to be a cartoon bomb, which promptly exploded in their faces. From a distance, [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] were astounded that their plan actually worked. Inside the smoking crater, a badly singed Megatron strangled Starscream, frustrated at his consistent failures. {{storylink|Transformers PD Type##3 &amp;quot;Don&#039;t Cry! Megatron!!&amp;quot;|Don&#039;t Cry! Megatron!!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, Starscream uncovered another Blackball. For a moment he considered giving it to Megatron, but then decided that if he kept it for himself, he could use the power to seize command of the Decepticons. He then immediately became suspicious that the Blackball might be another bomb, but dismissed the suspicion just as quickly. Then it exploded. {{storylink|Transformers PD Type##10 &amp;quot;Good Luck! Starscream!!&amp;quot;|Good Luck! Starscream!!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===The Official Transformers: Generation 2 Annual===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:G2StarscreamPackageArt.jpg|thumb]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{storylink|The Official Transformers: Generation 2 Annual|Starscreams&#039;s &#039;&#039;The Official Transformers: Generation 2 Annual&#039;&#039; profile}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{storylink|Day of the Decepticons}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{storylink|The Dinobots!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; cartoon===&lt;br /&gt;
{{voiceactor|[[Doug Parker]] (English), [[Kazuki Yao]] (Japanese)|[[Alfonso Obregon]] (Latin American Spanish), [[José Padilla]] (Castilian Spanish)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Starscream ghost BW.jpg|left|upright=1.4|thumb|EBENEZER SCROOGE...!]]&lt;br /&gt;
After the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] crashed on [[Earth]], Starscream&#039;s body lay in [[stasis lock]] next to his [[Megatron (G1)|leader]], along with [[Soundwave (G1)|the other]] [[Skywarp (G1)|Decepticons]]. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part III)}} &lt;br /&gt;
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Little was known about Starscream among the [[Maximal]]s, as the [[Maximal Elder]]s had classified most of his information. At some point in time the Elders had attempted to duplicate Starscream&#039;s mutant indestructible spark effect, which led to the origin of the monstrous [[Rampage (BW)|Protoform X]].{{storylink|Bad Spark}} [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]], a student of military history, was familiar with Starscream&#039;s record of deceit and betrayal. It is possible that [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]] was also aware of his history, as he ordered [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] to keep an eye on Starscream when he arrived on Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
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Starscream&#039;s ghost traveled through time and space to the prehistoric earth of the [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]], where he possessed [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]]&#039;s body during an electrical storm. He ingratiated himself with Megatron, claiming that he had been destroyed by [[Unicron]] while protecting [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]. After leading a successful raid on the &#039;&#039;[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]&#039;&#039;, he was left in command of the captured Maximal ship, along with Scorponok and [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]]—the latter having sufficiently impressed Starscream by seeing through his historical deception that he took her on as a &amp;quot;protégé&amp;quot;. When the defeated Maximals surrendered to him, he took Dinobot and [[Optimus Primal/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]] hostage and ordered the remaining Maximals to attack the &#039;&#039;[[Darksyde]]&#039;&#039;. Scorponok objected, but he was very forcefully overruled. Shortly after the attack began, the two captive Maximals broke out and drove the Predacons out of the &#039;&#039;Axalon&#039;&#039;. Starscream fled, pursued by Primal, and abandoned Blackarachnia to her fate. After a spirited chase, Primal cornered Starscream at an [[energon]] deposit, paralyzing him. As he tried to bargain his way out of his predicament, his vengeful ex-partner Blackarachnia detonated the energon, blowing Waspinator to scrap and forcing Starscream&#039;s spark out of his body. Waspinator was restored back to normal by Megatron, and Blackarachnia explained her betrayal as an attempt to find Starscream&#039;s true motives, and at that point, Megatron pardoned her. &lt;br /&gt;
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As [[Magmatron]] surveyed the timestream, he witnessed several key moments during the Beast Wars. Among those moments was Starscream possession the body of Waspinator. {{storylink|The Gathering issue 1|The Gathering #1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After his defeat at the hands of the Maximals, Starscream&#039;s immortal spark wandered through space and time, until it found an alternate timeline with another Waspinator to possess. When the quantum surge hit prehistoric earth in this timeline, Waspinator was transmetalized, and Starscream, still inhabiting the Predacon&#039;s body, was somehow able to influence Waspinator&#039;s metamorphosis, giving him a third fighter jet mode resembling Starscream&#039;s own old alternate form. Although the two of them bicker over control of the body constantly, their two separate voices audible to whoever hears them argue, Waspinator secretly enjoys the enhanced skills Starscream grants him. {{storylink|Transformers: Beast Wars Sourcebook|Beast Wars Sourcebook}}&lt;br /&gt;
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While Starscream lay [[stasis lock]]ed in the Ark, [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] broke in and implanted a fraction of the original Megatron&#039;s spark into the Air Commander, allowing the two Megatron&#039;s to control him. The Decepticon leader, whose spark had been implanted into Megatron, attempted to use Starscream to return to his own body, but was subdued in a battle of wills with beast Megatron. Starscream&#039;s services ultimately went unused until the [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]] ended, at which point the [[Maximal]]s were able to extract the spark fragment. {{storylink|A Meeting of Minds}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After a particularly harrowing fight with Megatron, Starscream went mountain climbing, and accidentally fell on his head. In this injured state, he was found by [[Hound (G1)|Hound]], [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] and [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]], who took him back to the Ark. [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] and [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] made repairs, having persuaded Prime to let them fiddle with Starscream&#039;s logic circuits if they found anything wrong. Starscream woke with amnesia.&lt;br /&gt;
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As he slowly learned about the war and experienced the welcoming and forgiving nature of the Autobots, he found himself siding with his former foes. When Megatron turned up to reclaim his former lieutenant, Starscream refused to go, and was surprised when Optimus and [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] moved to protect him. Despite all this, the sight of [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] finally restored his memory, and he returned to the Decepticons, claiming that he had been faking amnesia as a ruse to gain access to the Autobot base. He later reflected that he had learned something from the Autobots — that a leader like Prime who could pull together the Decepticons as a team could lead more effectively than Megatron had, and Starscream could be that leader. {{storylink|Redemption Center}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Dreamwave &#039;&#039;Generation One&#039;&#039; continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Starscreamwarwithin.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|Smirkier-than-thou.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Hailing from the city of [[Centurion (polity)|Centurion]]&#039;&#039;, {{storylink|Transformers: Hardwired|Hardwired}} Starscream was a competitor in [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]&#039;s underground gladiatorial matches, the breeding ground for what would eventually become the Decepticons. He enjoyed baiting his fellow combatant, [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]; in fact, he was a master at it. Once war broke out, he kept taunting his old friend, which eventually backfired when he told Grimlock exactly where the Seekers were going to attack, giving Grimlock time to set a massive bomb. Starscream&#039;s life was saved only by the fast action of Skywarp. {{storylink|The War Within Preview}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In typical fashion, Starscream tried to seize power. While Megatron was deep within the bowels of Cybertron, Starscream instructed [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]] to initiate the planet&#039;s long-hidden transformation sequence, hoping Megatron would be crushed in the process. Some people never learn. {{storylink|The War Within issue 5|The War Within #5}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Predaconstww.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|My... people.]]&lt;br /&gt;
A few millennia later, after the apparent death of Megatron, Starscream created a splinter group of Decepticons called [[Predacon (War Within)|Predacons]]. However, when your smartest subordinates are [[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]], [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] and [[Octane (G1)|Octane]], you can&#039;t expect much of your forces. {{storylink|Fragmentation (G1)|Fragmentation}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Starscream was among the Decepticon boarding party that attacked the Autobot flagship Ark, causing its crash-landing on Earth and putting all Autobots and Decepticons alike in emergency stasis. In 1984 a volcanic eruption awakened the Ark&#039;s computer, Teletraan-I, and it repaired all on board. Starscream&#039;s actions over the next fifteen years are largely unrecorded, but he probably did what he did best: strafe the Autobots and fleshlings and attempt to betray Megatron, smirking all the while. In 1998, the combined forces of the Autobots and Earth defeated and captured the Decepticons. Starscream was secured on board the &#039;&#039;[[Ark II]]&#039;&#039; along with the other Decepticons when the ship exploded, killing the human crew and scattering the Transformers across the ocean. Arms dealer Adam Rook (a.k.a. [[Lazarus]]) recovered several of the Autobots and Decepticons and used them as a reprogrammed weapons for hire for terrorists and despots. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 1|Prime Directive #1}} As part of a demonstration to prospective buyers, Rook had Starscream join an assault against the Smitco Oil Refinery alongside half a dozen Transformers. When Megatron eventually broke free of Rook&#039;s control, he freed the other Decepticons. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 2|Prime Directive #2}} &lt;br /&gt;
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The reactivated Starscream, along with his Seeker brothers Thundercracker and Skywarp, took a particular pleasure in dismantling the Autobot Minicars. When Megatron complained that he didn&#039;t rewire them so they could sit around and do nothing, Starscream playfully said they were only having some fun with their new &amp;quot;toys&amp;quot;. Megatron ordered the three Decepticons to follow him, and when Skywarp asked Starscream what their leader&#039;s plan was this time, the air commander casually tossed [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]]&#039;s head over his shoulder and said that he didn&#039;t care, as it was going to be evil, and evil is &#039;&#039;always&#039;&#039; fun. Soon afterwards, the Autobots arrived and attacked. As Starscream attempted to choke [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]], [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] paid him back with a nice throat punch. All the combatants were then bombed by rogue members of the U.S. military. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 3|Prime Directive #3}} &lt;br /&gt;
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The Decepticons escaped and attacked [[San Francisco]]. When [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] appeared to stop [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], Starscream led the other Seekers in bombing the Autobot giant, forcing the Aerialbots into their component team member forms and putting them at the mercy of Devastator. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 5|Prime Directive #5}} Starscream and the other Decepticons secured the Autobots after Optimus Prime defeated Devastator. The Autobot leader managed to free his comrades after humans distracted the Decepticons, and the battle was rejoined. Fellow F-15 [[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] punched Starscream in the face, repaying him for the earlier defeat. After the Aerialbots, as Superion, sacrificed their lives to save San Francisco from [[Robert Hallo|General Hallo&#039;s]] unauthorized nuclear strike, Starscream and the other Decepticons escaped. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 6|Prime Directive #6}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Starscreamshhhhhh.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Holy crap! Expressions!]]&lt;br /&gt;
Starscream led the Decepticons in joining Shockwave&#039;s Cybertronians after Megatron was defeated and was the first to recognize the mind-altering techniques being employed. Starscream escaped the CR chambers long enough almost to succeed in assassinating Megatron. Punishment didn&#039;t deter him, and Starscream was almost immediately creating a small sect of separatist Decepticons on Cybertron. He used the cover of Menasor&#039;s release to steal the incapacitated Combaticons to form his own army. If only he hadn&#039;t tried to hijack [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]]. Yet another rebellion defeated by bad planning. Some people never learn. {{storylink|War and Peace|War and Peace}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Starscreamdaydream.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|There but for the grace of a fusion cannon go I.]]&lt;br /&gt;
After returning to Earth, Starscream unleashed the Decepticons on the Autobots under the leadership of [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]]. Unfortunately, most of the Decepticons were incapacitated. Worse, Starscream&#039;s clone [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]] arrived on some bizarre mission. Starscream was forced to ally with the Autobots in exchange for getting his forces freed. After the misadventure, Starscream took the Combaticons for some practice against Sky Lynx. This also ended in disaster, for [[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]] soon arrived, and Starscream discovered that Soundwave, his cassettes, and the other Seekers had allied with Predaking&#039;s master... Megatron! Starscream was again forced into a subservient position, with Megatron preparing to lead the Decepticons in the conquest of Earth... {{storylink|Transformers: Generation 1 (Dreamwave) |Generation One (ongoing)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers&#039;&#039; continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:JoeVsTF1 Starscream transforms.jpg|left|upright=1.4|thumb|Even when Starscream&#039;s nothing more than a mindless drone, he still manages to smirk.]]&lt;br /&gt;
When the nascent terrorist organization known as [[Cobra]] uncovered the buried hulk of the Ark, they removed the bodies of numerous Transformers with the intention of using them as weapons of war to threaten America. Cobra scientist [[Doctor Mindbender]] hacked the brain functions of the captive Transformers, reducing them to the level of remote-controlled drones, and dubbed them &amp;quot;[[Battle Android Trooper]]s&amp;quot;. Starscream was reconfigured to transform into a jet plane known as a &amp;quot;Night Raven&amp;quot;, and was selected for use by the [[Cobra Commander]] as his personal aircraft.&lt;br /&gt;
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Starscream was among the Transformers deployed during Cobra&#039;s opening attack on world freedom, when they targeted the [[United Nations]] Headquarters. Starscream transformed to robot mode and was punching his way through the building when a U.S. Military soldier code-named [[Snake-Eyes]] opened fire on him with a machine gun. Although unharmed by the attack, Starscream returned fire with his lasers, blowing up the missile tank upon which the soldier was perched and horribly scarring his face. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 1|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #1}} Returning to Cobra&#039;s island base, Cobra Commander began his meeting with [[Destro]] by having Starscream dramatically fly by overhead and transform, for no reason other than to impress the arms dealer. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 2|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Meanwhile, Autobot scientist Wheeljack had been able to avoid capture by Cobra, and had allied himself with America&#039;s newly formed special mission force [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]]. Hacking into Cobra&#039;s system, he was able to shut off the terrorists&#039; control of the Transformers, liberating their minds and bodies. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 3|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #3}} Naturally, the first thing Starscream did once he was free was to interrupt a battle between Optimus Prime and Megatron by shooting Megatron in the chest in a bid for leadership. Megatron returned the sentiment, blasting him with his fusion cannon, and Starscream slunk away as Megatron returned to more important matters. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 4|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Lurking in the island&#039;s jungle, Starscream crossed paths with Snake-Eyes, who took revenge for his disfigurement by shattering the unsuspecting Starscream&#039;s eye with his [[sword]] and shoving a grenade into the socket. Clawing at his face, Starscream tumbled over a cliff and was badly damaged in the fall. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 5|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #5}} His still-operational body was soon happened across by Cobra Commander, who was attempting to flee the escalating battle between the Autobots, Decepticons, Joes and Cobras that was engulfing the island, and Starscream made the human proposition: help him remove the grenade, and he would get him off the island. Naturally, the commander agreed. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 6|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #6}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Starscream gijoe energyropes.jpg|left|thumb|Starscream is allergic to glow stick ropes.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Starscream and Cobra Commander resurfaced two years later, when Cobra Commander learned that human scientists had created an interstellar wormhole to Cybertron. With Starscream forced to do his bidding (via unspecified means), he used the portal to travel to Cybertron with the intention of gaining control of the wormhole technology by stealing the super-computer [[Teletran 3]]. However, a G.I. Joe ambush that struck just as they were carrying out their plan caused a catastrophic malfunction in Teletran 3, scattering numerous Transformers through the wormhole network across space and time. Starscream was not among those scattered, but he was promptly bound with [[energon chains]] by Perceptor and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] while they assessed the severity of the situation. It transpired that the chronal disruption caused by the time-lost Transformers would destroy the Earth, and teams of Joes and Cobras were soon dispatched through the timestream to retrieve the robots and save the planet. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 1|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II #1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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While the Joes and Cobras were off on their time-tossed mission, the forcefield protecting Magnus, Perceptor and Teletran 3 collapsed, at which point Decepticon commander Shockwave struck. Shockwave freed Starscream and reprogrammed Teletran 3 to prevent Transformers from being able to return to their proper times, so that Earth would be destroyed and he could invade it, as he had always planned to—it was Shockwave who had leaked the wormhole technology to humans in the first place. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 3|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II #3}} When a small team of Joes and Cobras that remained on Cybertron tried to undo his programming, Starscream spotted [[Lady Jaye]] modifying Teletran 3 and shouted a warning, but it came too late. The Transformers were returned, and Starscream escaped in the midst of the chaotic battle that resulted.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the aftermath of the battle, Shockwave accused Starscream of deliberately trying to foil his scheme by trying to steal Teletran 3. Starscream denied any treacherousness on his part, and Shockwave was just starting to come around when a recording Cobra Commander had programmed into Starscream began to play, informing the Decepticon leader of Starscream&#039;s general uselessness. At that point, Starscream promptly exploded, taking out the Decepticon headquarters in the process, courtesy of forty-five pounds of plastic explosives that Cobra Commander had lined his housing with, in case the Decepticon had ever escaped his clutches. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 4|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II #4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Starscream gijoe ww2.jpg|thumb|&amp;quot;Pathetic fools! There&#039;s no escape!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
When the foundling terrorist organization known as Cobra discovered the Ark buried in the [[Fera Islands]] in [[1938]], they inadvertently awoke the Decepticons from their stasis. The evil robots entered into an alliance with the organization&#039;s leader, Cobra Commander, to conquer the world and strip it of its energy, but Megatron&#039;s true goal was to take the Matrix of Leadership—stolen from the body of Optimus Prime—from around Cobra Commander&#039;s neck. Starscream adopted the alternate form of a P-51 Mustang aeroplane.&lt;br /&gt;
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One year later, in [[1939]], the American military formed a special mission force to counter the Cobra-Decepticon alliance named &amp;quot;G.I. Joe&amp;quot;. Laserbeak spied upon the first meeting of this team and reported the information to Cobra; Starscream stood nearby as Cobra Commander vowed to kill the Joes, and opined that heroes were &#039;&#039;born&#039;&#039; to die. G.I. Joe&#039;s first attack came soon after, and Starscream distracted their aircraft in his jet mode while Megatron attacked them from above and downed them. {{storylink|The Line}} As it happened, the Joes bailed out and landed near to the buried Ark, where they wound up awakening the Autobots within the craft. Starscream watched as the ship sent out a repair drone to scan for alternate modes, aware of what it meant and seeing it as a threat to Megatron&#039;s leadership that he could exploit. Megatron happened upon Starscream as he was monologuing about taking the power of the Matrix for himself, and witnessed the drone going about its business. Knowing he would need the scheming Starscream for the coming battle, he ordered the Air Commander to help him move their stockpiled energon cubes to safer location. {{storylink|Transformed}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron proceeded to mass the Decepticons for a major battle with the Autobots, save for Starscream, who was left to languish within their base. Unfortunately for Megatron, this merely left Starscream with an opportunity to conspire with Cobra Commander&#039;s own traitorous second, [[Destro]], and together the pair prepared to unleash the newly constructed giant robot, Bruticus, upon everyone. {{storylink|Wolves}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Starscream gijoe ww2 weakspot.jpg|left|upright=1.4|thumb|&amp;quot;I...will...keep reaching...uuuhh.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
Even this conspiracy proved to be a deception on Destro&#039;s part, however, when he had his lover, the [[Baroness]], shoot Starscream in his weak spot: an inch below his right ear, just behind his jaw hinge. Starscream&#039;s head flared with electricity and he collapsed, while Destro loosed Bruticus upon all his assembled enemies. G.I. Joe member Snake-Eyes ended the threat when he plucked the Matrix from Cobra Commander&#039;s clutches, and at Optimus Prime&#039;s direction, hurled it at Bruticus. The resultant explosion of creation energy destroyed Bruticus, but apparently killed all the Transformers in the process. {{storylink|The Iron Fist}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Forty-six years later, in [[1985]], Starscream was revealed to have survived his injuries and the destruction of the Matrix through unexplained means. Discarding his archaic alternate mode for the form of an F-15, Starscream was performing a flyby over Cobra Island, seeking a means to return to Cybertron, when he intercepted a communication about an alien starship (actually a Cybertronian craft containing Blaster and Perceptor) crashing in [[Oregon]]. Starscream saw the craft as his ticket home, and while he was too low on energon to claim the ship for himself, he was content to let Cobra take it and then steal it from them later. {{storylink|Targets of Opportunity}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Starscream and his comrades, Skywarp and Thundercracker, were recruited by Soundwave when [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]] requested fliers. After recruiting [[Shockwave (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Shockwave]] and murdering the [[Senate]], he led the Seekers as air support in the overthrow of [[Zeta Prime (G1)|Zeta Prime]] before, after a spell as recruitment agent, becoming Megatron&#039;s personal bodyguard, warning him about the power of the [[Phase Sixer]] [[Sixshot (G1)|Sixshot]], to which Megatron dismissed his concerns. During this time, he appeared to let his ambition rest, mostly out of fear of his leader.&lt;br /&gt;
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Many years later, as leader of an [[Infiltration protocol|Infiltration unit]] on [[Earth]], he discovered an [[Ultra-Energon]] seam and saw in it his chance to finally overpower and defeat Megatron. His breach of protocol in pursuit of this drew Megatron to Earth personally, and despite Starscream&#039;s enhanced power, he easily defeated the treacherous Seeker and blew a hole in his chest. After a spell in a CR chamber, however, he was revived by his unit, worried about Megatron&#039;s seeming instability, and ultimately accepted back into the Decepticon army by Megatron after helping to defeat a rebellious Sixshot and the [[Reaper]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
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He then did a deal with the mentally-damaged [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] ostensibly to help overthrow Megatron, before double-crossing him, leaving the Autobots at the point of total defeat. Ultimately, this period ended with Megatron comatose and Starscream in charge of the Decepticons... an opportunity he completely squandered, &amp;quot;leading&amp;quot; the Decepticons to rack and ruin on a remote asteroid. On revival, Megatron was not happy at the complete destruction of the Decepticon infrastructure, but let him live due to the lack of able-bodied soldiers.&lt;br /&gt;
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After the Chaos War, he placed himself as a repentant soul, trying to do his best to help the vastly-expanded [[NAIL|neutral population]] on a reborn Cybertron. This, combined with the apparent blessing of a [[Metrotitan (body-type)|Metrotitan]], left him placed after a Decepticon uprising to kill his &amp;quot;friend&amp;quot;, neutral leader [[Metalhawk (Masterforce)|Metalhawk]], and use his death as a tool to evict both factions from [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] and seize the leadership of the city.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Starscream HOS.jpg|left|thumb|Ye olde Tyme treacherie.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Starscream is the nominal leader of the Decepticons on 19th-century Earth, while Megatron sleeps in [[stasis lock]]. He decides to conquer the Earth in this time, and use that power to overthrow Megatron when he should wake up. Posing as a benefactor to humanity, he enlists the help of inventor [[Tobias Muldoon]] to design new [[Alternate mode|altmodes]] for the Decepticons. {{storylink|Hearts of Steel issue 2|Hearts of Steel #2}} In particular, Starscream builds (or reformats) [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] for an assault on [[New York City]], and the new electrical generators there. {{storylink|Hearts of Steel issue 3|Hearts of Steel #3}} It all ends badly. {{storylink|Hearts of Steel issue 4|Hearts of Steel #4}} &lt;br /&gt;
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Starscream was among the Decepticons who joined [[Megatron (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! pack-in comics|Megatron]] in attacking the Earth in the 21st century. During an attack on Tokyo, Starscream got the drop on some human military operatives who were observing a fight between Megatron and [[Optimus Prime (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! pack-in comics|Optimus Prime]], but before he could take them out, [[Bumblebee (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! pack-in comics|Bumblebee]] got the drop on &#039;&#039;him&#039;&#039;, spraying him with a fire engine&#039;s hose. This gave [[Grimlock (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! pack-in comics|Grimlock]] the opening he needed to lash Starscream with his tail and send him crashing into Megatron, prompting the villains to retreat. {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Starscream later concocted a plan to have [[Astrotrain (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! pack-in comics|Astrotrain]] keep the Autobots busy while the Decepticons raided a power plant, but he had not factored in the Autobots&#039; newest warrior, [[Hot Rod (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! pack-in comic|Hot Rod]], who took them by surprise and blasted Starscream in the back. {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 2}} Seeking revenge, Starscream tried to return the favor, only for Hot Rod to dodge the blast, and cause Starscream to shoot Megatron instead! {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Knowing that his friend [[Jetfire (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! pack-in comic|Skyfire]] had been stranded on Earth tens of thousands of years ago, Starscream had [[Ramjet (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! pack-in comic|Ramjet]] search for his body, which was eventually located frozen in a glacier. Starscream thawed out Skyfire and placed a mind-controlling helmet on him, to ensure that his kind-hearted old friend would serve the destructive Decepticon cause. Together, they attacked a power plant, but while they fought off the plant&#039;s Autobot defenders, Skyfire began to struggle against the helmet&#039;s influence, eventually overpowering it and turning on Starscream. Realizing he was outnumbered, Starscream fled, as Skyfire called after him to remind him that even thousands of years ago, they&#039;d never gotten along that well anyway... {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Following Megatron&#039;s use of energon cubes to power himself up into [[Galvatron (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! pack-in comic|Galvatron]], Starscream attempted to repeat the process on himself, and had [[Ravage (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! pack-in comics|Ravage]] steal a sack of cubes for him. Before he could put them to use, however, he was ambushed by [[Cheetor (BW)#Henkei! Henkei! pack-in comic|Cheetor]], who defeated him and reclaimed the cubes. {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 8}} Later, Starscream was led by [[Cyclonus (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! pack-in comic|Cyclonus]] to a volcanic field, where Megatron was in the process of using the magma to again power up into Galvatron. Seething over his own inability to obtain the power Galvatron wielded, Starscream thought his chance to lead had finally come when a team of Autobots arrive and collapsed the volcano on top of Galvatron. His gloating was short lived, however, as Galvatron burst out from under the rubble, and, entirely unaware that a fight had even gone on, began berating Starscream and Cyclonus for being lazy idiots. {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 9}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When [[Ratchet (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! pack-in comic|Ratchet]] was trying to take a human girl to the hospital, Starscream arrived to take potshots at him. Ratchet&#039;s comrade [[Inferno (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! pack-in comic|Inferno]] blocked Starscream&#039;s shots, and the enabled Ratchet to escape by blinding Starscream with a blast from his water cannon. {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 10}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Henkei! Henkei!&#039;&#039; Bun Bun manga===&lt;br /&gt;
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Years ago on Cybertron, Starscream was a scientist and explorer. Together with his friend [[Jetfire (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! Bun Bun manga|Skyfire]], he embarked on a search for energy on other planets, but when the duo visited Earth, Skyfire was caught in a blizzard and frozen in ice. Starscream subsequently returned to Cybertron and became a warrior, joining up with [[Megatron (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! Bun Bun manga|Megatron]]&#039;s Decepticons.{{storylink|The Enemy from the Arctic}} Untold years later, when the legendary power source known as the [[Energon Cube]] was lost to the reaches of space, Starscream was among a small team of Decepticons who departed Cybertron in pursuit of it. The Cube crash-landed on Earth in the Japanese town of [[Hoshinochō]] and shattered into fragments, so Starscream and the other Decepticons took on the forms of local vehicles and machinery to remain hidden while searching for the shards. [[Optimus Prime (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! Bun Bun manga|Optimus Prime]] and his Autobots had also followed the Cube to Earth, and so the Transformers&#039; war continued in secret on this new world. {{storylink|Kingdom of Giants}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Eleven years after arriving on Earth, Starscream and [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] tracked Prime&#039;s Autobots to the human building known built over the Cube&#039;s impact crater called the [[Star Dome]], and launched an attack. Starscream was surprised to find a human boy, [[Wataru Hoshinoumi]], caught in the middle of the conflict, but gave the fleshling little thought and aimed his gun to destroy it. The human, however, had a protector: the littlest Autobot, [[Bumblebee (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! Bun Bun manga|Bumblebee]] came bursting out of nowhere to nail Starscream with a flying kick and save the boy. {{storylink|Enter! The Transformers}} Starscream didn&#039;t take kindly to this insult upon his person, and pinned Bumblebee beneath his foot, but before he could finish him off, Wataru blinded the Air Commander with a fire extinguisher! Unfortunately for Starscream, it was at that point that Megatron himself chose to arrive, and he violently berated Starscream for going behind his back, throttling him and using him as a shield to block Optimus Prime&#039;s fire. After some further shots were exchanged, Megatron&#039;s attention was piqued by Wataru, and he decided to call retreat. {{storylink|The Emperor of Destruction Appears!}} Back at the Decepticons&#039; underwater base, Starscream opined that Megatron was growing old, but Megatron simply replied with equal sarcasm that the weakest dog barks the loudest. Starscream stalked off, vowing to himself that he would be leader of the Decepticons, then summoned Ramjet to join him on a personal mission to the Arctic. {{storylink|Kingdom of Giants}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Starscream and Ramjet located the glacier that Skyfire&#039;s body was trapped in, and released him from his frozen sleep. Skyfire was happy to see Starscream again, but Starscream soon proved how much he had changed when he sent a watching group of humans to their deaths by shooting the ice out from under them. Just as Skyfire demanded an explanation for his actions, Starscream slapped a helmet onto his head that took over his mind and co-opted him into the Decepticon ranks. Starscream proceeded to lead the brainwashed Skyfire in an attack on a power plant back in Hoshinochō, but through it all, Skyfire refrained from outright killing any human workers. Displeased with Skyfire&#039;s resistance to the helmet&#039;s control, Starscream set an example by opening fire indiscriminately. Just before he shot Wataru, who happened to be visiting the plant, Skyfire seized his arm at the last second, insisting they were researchers, not murderers. Luckily, this was enough of a delay to save Wataru&#039;s life, as Optimus Prime&#039;s Autobots then came blasting into the plant. {{storylink|The Enemy from the Arctic}} In the battle that followed, Skyfire continued to struggle against the helmet, shielding Wataru and Bumblebee from Starscream&#039;s attacks. Starscream was shocked to learn that Wataru was a &amp;quot;[[Booster]]&amp;quot;, a being born with the ability to control energon, when Wataru used his powers to liberate Skyfire from the control helmet. Skyfire turned his guns on Starscream, blowing off his left null ray cannon, then informed him of one important fact he had remembered: they never actually got along that well in the first place. With no options left, Starscream was forced to retreat. {{storylink|Wataru&#039;s Power}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When both Optimus Prime and Megatron were left badly damaged after a fierce battle, Starscream, Ramjet and [[Astrotrain (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! Bun Bun manga|Astrotrain]] exploited the Autobots&#039; reduced manpower by raiding a hydroelectric power plant. Together, they made short work of the Autobots who did turn up to fight them, but just as they were preparing to leave with a haul of [[energon cube]]s, the revitalized Optimus Prime came speeding onto the scene. The three Decepticons beat a hasty retreat, but only Starscream got away, the other two taken down by a powered-up blast from Prime&#039;s [[ion blaster]]. {{storylink|Time of Resurrection}} With nothing to show for his efforts, Starscream returned to the volcanic caves were Megatron was recuperating from his injuries, bathing in a &amp;quot;bath&amp;quot; of molten energon cubes. Deeming it a waste of their energon resources, Starscream saw his chance when Optimus Prime and Bumblebee arrived in the caves, the Autobots having received a message that gave Megatron&#039;s location. Starscream greeted the two Autobots and gleefully led them to the chamber Megatron was in, serving them up the Decepticon leader in the hopes that they would destroy him and leave his throne free to be usurped. Starscream kept Megatron&#039;s newest soldier, [[Cyclonus (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! Bun Bun manga|Cyclonus]], busy so Prime could deliver the killing strike, but against everyone&#039;s expectations, Megatron did not die from Prime&#039;s sword slash, and was instead transformed by the power of energon into the deranged [[Galvatron (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! Bun Bun manga|Galvatron]]! {{storylink|Creation! The New Emperor of Destruction!!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Galvatron immediately attacked Optimus Prime, and Starscream exploited the opened, attacking his former leader from above. Galvatron proved able to shrug his shots off, and destroyed the rocky outcrop on which Starscream was standing, bringing him tumbling into Galvatron&#039;s clutches. After being slammed around a bit, Starscream fired his jets and blasted from Galvatron&#039;s grip, looping back around to deliver a jet-powered kick, but the attack accomplished little other than to thoroughly tax Galvatron&#039;s patience. Powering up his cannon, Galvatron unleashed a single earth-shattering blast that appeared to reduce Starscream to atoms. {{storylink|The Threat of Galvatron}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Starscream proved hardier than Galvatron expected, though: after Galvatron had torn his way through the assembled Autobots, Starscream re-appeared, broken and crippled, but nonetheless determined to bring Galvatron down. His weapons still proved ineffective, however, and so Starscream demanded that Wataru use his powers to give him a boost. Naturally, Wataru was hesitant, but saw the logic in Starscream&#039;s plan and acquiesced, providing the Decepticon with a forcefield and a powered-up gun. Starscream was only able to get off one shot before Galvatron destroyed the field and his cannon, but the blast successfully reopened the original wound Optimus Prime had torn in Galvatron&#039;s armor. Taking the opening, Prime repeated the tactic and plunged his energon sword into the gash, ripping Galvatron open. A catastrophic release of energy from Galvatron&#039;s body ensued, which began to the collapse the cavern. The Autobots raced for the exit, but Starscream did not move, and Wataru could only look back to see a smile form upon the Air Commander&#039;s lips as he watched Galvatron&#039;s defeat, seconds before he too disappeared beneath the tumbling rocks. {{storylink|Revenge (Henkei)|Revenge}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Alternity===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Alternity starscream boxart.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|&amp;quot;Carscream&amp;quot;? Really, that&#039;s the best [[Fandom|you]] could come up with?]]&lt;br /&gt;
A Starscream from an unidentified [[universal stream]] was selected by [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#Alternity|Megatron]] to become the leader of his team of cross-dimensional [[Questor]]s. Imbued with a small portion of the incredible powers over space and time that his leader had acquired from the god-beast [[Hytherion]], Starscream became incredibly powerful, equipped with an uncharacteristic sports car alternate mode, a [[Timaeus drive]] that allowed him to travel through dimensions, a &amp;quot;Retroactive Nullifer&amp;quot; capable of erasing victims from history, and four &amp;quot;Evil Optics&amp;quot; that can send an enemy into [[stasis lock]] with only a look. Despite all the new powers that this infusion of Hytherion power conveyed about him, Starscream was wary, wondering why Megatron would so empower him given his record of deceit. Despite fears that he might be the subject of some strange cosmic experiment that Megatron was conducting, Starscream still took to his new role with glee, seeking ways to put his new power to use overthrowing Megatron.&lt;br /&gt;
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On a mission to Earth, Starscream confronted one of [[Optimus Prime (G1)#Alternity|Optimus Prime]]&#039;s [[auto-avatar]]s. Surprising Prime with his sports car form, Starscream scored a hit with his Nullifer, which slowly began killing the Autobot. Starscream had heard other species call the [[Alternity]] &amp;quot;gods&amp;quot;, but taunted Prime by telling him that any story of gods must end with a Ragnarök. However, Starscream did not expect Prime to tell him that the Alternity were already well aware of the time and circumstances of their prophesied end, and were already prepared. {{storylink|Foreshadows}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Learning that Megatron intended to use a magic tablet to seize control of the all-powerful [[Planicron]]s of [[Flatworld]], Starscream made his inevitable power play, hunting out a tablet of his own and mastering its abilities. Just as Megatron was in the process of taking control of the Planicrons, Starscream stepped in, paralysing his fellow Questors with his Evil Optics and using his tablet in an attempt to collapse Flatworld in on itself. It came as a rude shock, then, to find that Megatron had anticipated his treachery and was able to override his tablet&#039;s control of the Planicrons. Megatron explained that the only reason Starscream had been chosen to be a Questor at all was so that he would have a test subject to see if it was possible to kill a being infused with Alternium—and as it turned out, it was, as Megatron had the Planicrons enter Starscream&#039;s body and cause the Alternium within him to multiply rapidly, exploding his body from the inside out.&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course, that was not quite the end for Starscream, who naturally survived as a ghost, like so many other versions of himself throughout the multiverse. Megatron was subsequently defeated by the Alternity when Thundercracker freed the Planicrons from his control, and Starscream&#039;s ghost appeared before his fellow Questor after the battle was done to taunt him with the fact he would never be forgiven for his betrayal. Though unclear, it seems possible Starscream may have actually possessed Thundercracker and caused him to free the Planicrons in the first place. {{storylink|Alternation}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Mars Attacks: The Transformers&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
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After a particularly harrowing defeat at the hands of the Autobots, the Decepticons found themselves in the middle of a [[Martian]] invasion. They attempted to team up with the invaders, only to be double crossed and trapped in a force field with the Autobots. After the Martians shrunk Megatron to the size of a toy, Starscream saw his opportunity to become the new Decepticon leader, however Megatron launched himself at Starscream&#039;s face and Starscream could only run around in panic. Things went back to normal once the Martians were repelled. {{storylink|Mars Attacks: The Transformers}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Commercial appearances==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Starscreamg1early.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|I&#039;m the black one! ...wait.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Commercial-PretenderStarscream.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Way to leave your shell stranded on the top of a skyscraper.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Commercial-AMStarscreamsits.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Where&#039;s our [[BotCon]] exclusive of &#039;&#039;this&#039;&#039; deco?]]&lt;br /&gt;
Starscream&#039;s [[commercial]] appearances include:&lt;br /&gt;
*An appearance in the first Transformers animation, a commercial for [[The Transformers (issue)|Issue #1]] of Marvel&#039;s &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|The Transformers]]&#039;&#039; comic book. Alongside Thundercracker and Skywarp, Starscream attacks an Earth power plant, then defends himself against an Autobot counterattack.&lt;br /&gt;
*Starscream and Thundercracker are seen strafing three Autobots, then getting shot down, in the Jetfire/Shockwave commercial.&lt;br /&gt;
*A 1985 commercial for [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]]. Starscream leads Thrust over the desert to attack the Autobots&#039; new defense base, brushing off Thrust&#039;s concerns about the whereabouts of the Autobots themselves. He is caught off-guard when the base transforms into [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]]. Good goin&#039; there, Starscream. This is the only ad in which Starscream has a speaking part; he&#039;s given his usual cartoon voice.&lt;br /&gt;
*He makes a short appearance in the 1986 commercial for Hot Rod/Kup/Blurr.&lt;br /&gt;
*He is seen in jet mode leading an attack on the Autobots&#039; power station in a commercial for Ultra Magnus.&lt;br /&gt;
*He can be glimpsed flying into battle alongside Galvatron - yes, Galvatron! - in the Galvatron/Magnus commercial.&lt;br /&gt;
*He and the other two standard Seekers are seen battling the Dinobots on the ground in a commercial for the Predacons.&lt;br /&gt;
*Starscream briefly features in the [[Classic Pretender|Pretender Classics]] commercial. He&#039;s shown lurking in the dark of an Earth city as Optimus Prime is reunited with Jazz and Bumblebee. Narration from [[Victor Caroli]] leads the viewer to believe that his lurking is quite evil.&lt;br /&gt;
*Still in his Pretender Classics body, Starscream is seen dunking [[Wildfly]] and company into colorful vats to create the [[Pretender Monster]]s in their commercial.&lt;br /&gt;
*He features alongside Prowl and [[Over-Run (G1)|Over-Run]] in a commercial for [[Action Master]] vehicles; he&#039;s shown battling Prowl aboard his [[Turbo Jet]] on Cybertron.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Games==&lt;br /&gt;
===Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons===&lt;br /&gt;
When Optimus embarked on his mission to rescue the Autobots&#039; [[Mini Vehicle|Minicar]] troops from the Decepticons, Starscream could hinder Optimus Prime&#039;s progress, pushing him back towards Optimus&#039;s point of origin in the Decepticon&#039;s maze-like base. {{storylink|Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons|Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons packaging blurb and game}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers: Mystery of Convoy&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
Starscream, alongside many of his fellow [[Decepticon]]s, menaced [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] while the Autobot was on a journey. {{storylink|Transformers: Mystery of Convoy}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; (Commodore 64)===&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; (PS2)===&lt;br /&gt;
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While the Autobots were on their way to ELTA, Starscream appeared and told them to stop right where they were. Transforming to robot form, he announced that he would be their opponent. Optimus Prime asked him where he had been during the whole adventure, but Starscream just told him to shut up and warned him that his null ray was not like the others. Despite saying that he was going to shut Optimus&#039; mouth forever, Starscream was defeated by the Autobots. Deciding to make a strategic withdraw and that discretion was the better part of valor, despite knowing that Megatron was going to chew him out, Starscream transformed to jet form and flew off. {{storylink|The Transformers (PS2)|The Transformers}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers Beast Wars: Transmetals&#039;&#039; (N64)===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:N64Starscream.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Yes, that&#039;s Transmetal Waspinator in original Waspinator colors as Generation 1 Starscream. No, that&#039;s not normal.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Starscream returned to the Beast Wars following the [[quantum surge]], with a strange but powerful new [[Transmetal]] body. Fearing that the Beast Wars would alter history against his liking, Starscream set out to destroy any Maximal or Predacon that opposed him. After vanquishing his foes, Starscream entered the Ark and infused himself with the power of his old body, just as Megatron and Optimus Primal had increased their power. This fusion of old and new allowed Starscream to finally achieve his eons long goal of restoring his original body. Finally whole, Starscream undertook the long journey through transwarp back to Cybertron. {{storylink|Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals (N64)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===3D Battle-Card Game===&lt;br /&gt;
Starscream serves under [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] as one of his Decepticon soldiers, battling [[Optimus Primal]]&#039;s many Autobot allies in what might possibly have been an inter-universe battle. {{storylink|3D Battle-Card Game#Energon Wars expansion|Energon Wars Expansion Set}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Sector Seven Alternate Reality Game===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Starscream 1982.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Masterpiece attack!]]&lt;br /&gt;
Disguised as an F-15 Eagle fighter jet, Starscream was active on Earth in [[1982]], with documented sightings of jets sporting his unique colors on several continents before he was caught on camera transforming to robot mode in California. This sighting (and its subsequent leak) was the direct impetus for [[Hungry Dragon|Hungry Dragon 1]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, during late April/early May of [[2007]], [[Sector Seven]] intercepted two sound clips through Agent Cod3x and another source (currently unknown). Apparently, Starscream wanted to make his presence known and left a message announcing that he would have the All Spark, and that Agent Powers would be the one to hand it over. These messages were somewhat garbled, as they were apparently received over a SETI@home system. So far, only these two &amp;quot;blips&amp;quot; have been analyzed (the second still needing work), but more may come in the near future. {{storylink|Sector Seven (game)|Sector Seven}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; - The Game (Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC)===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:ROTF 360PS3PC DLC G1Starscream.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|&amp;quot;Why do I feel like [[Pat Lee]] designed me?&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers Battle Universe===&lt;br /&gt;
At the edge of time, when the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] needed a new host, Starscream was among several warriors summoned from the multiverse to battle for control of the prize. {{storylink|Transformers Battle Universe}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers G1: Awakening===&lt;br /&gt;
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Starscream was among the Decepticons who pursued and boarded the Autobot [[Ark (G1)|Ark]]. When the ship crashed on [[Earth]], all inside were sent into stasis, but the Decepticons woke up four million years later and resumed their conquering ways. Picking up [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]], whom they tricked into becoming a Decepticon, Starscream took part in an attack on [[Dyson Dam]]. He was later present when the Decepticons trapped Optimus Prime&#039;s team on Cybertron, though he was unable to prevent the Autobots from subsequently escaping imprisonment. He returned to Earth where he picked a fight with [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] and was soundly defeated by the Dinobot. He also took part in Megatron&#039;s ill-fated assault on the Ark, and completely failed to stop the Autobots when they attacked the Decepticon fortress on Cybertron. {{storylink|Transformers G1: Awakening}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers Legends&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
Once one of Cybertron&#039;s defenders, Starscream was stationed aboard an orbital station. The long isolation resulted in him becoming greedy and ambitious, and he eagerly took up Megatron&#039;s offer to lead troops in battle. {{storylink|Transformers Legends (mobile game)|Starscream&#039;s card bio}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Following the disappearance of Megatron, Starscream stole the [[Exponential Generator]] from [[Doctor Arkeville]] with the intention of using it to destroy [[Earth]] and harness the energy from the planet&#039;s destruction. Luckily the Autobots stopped him, firing the generator into orbit after a battle. {{storylink|Countdown to Extinction (Legends)|Countdown to Extinction}} Starscream was among the Decepticons who coated themselves in [[Electrum]] from a Golden Lagoon, though their campaign against the Autobots was halted when the Autobots found the lagoon, and the Electrum was destroyed in the ensuing battle. {{storylink|The Golden Lagoon (Legends)|The Golden Lagoon}} After the Decepticons discovered a [[Crystal of Power]] in [[South America]], Starscream and Reflector were sent to steal materials for a cannon. They succeeded, despite Autobot interference, though the Autobots later managed to destroy the cannon anyway. {{storylink|Fire on the Mountain (Legends)|Fire on the Mountain}} Starscream took part in an all-out assault on [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]]. {{storylink|One Shall Fall...}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Following Megatron&#039;s death, Starscream wrested control of the Decepticons. Despite resistance by Megatron loyalists, Starscream organized a coronation, however the event was gatecrashed by Galvatron, who blasted Starscream into dust. {{storylink|The Coronation of Starscream}} Reduced to an insubstantial ghost, Starscream sought the help of [[Unicron]] and was pressed into service as an instrument of Unicron&#039;s will, becoming an agent of chaos. During a period when the barrier between the physical and ethereal plane was weakened, Starscream enlisted [[Fangry]], [[Weirdwolf (G1)|Weirdwolf]] and [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] to help him pass through the [[spirit portal]]. Thanks to the interference of the Autobot [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]], he was unable to take physical form before the portal collapsed and was again left stuck on the ethereal plane. {{storylink|Ghost in the Machine (Legends)|Ghost in the Machine}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====Dark Cybertron====&lt;br /&gt;
{{note|As a tie-in with the IDW [[Dark Cybertron|crossover]], it&#039;s unclear if the happenings in this event are meant to fit in with mainstream &#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; continuity.}}&lt;br /&gt;
An ancient prophecy discovered by [[Scoop (G1)|Scoops]] appeared to name Starscream as the chosen one who would bring Cybertron to a new Golden Age, though Starscream himself was skeptical. He and the other Transformers attempted to make contact with the newly-arrived [[Necrotitan]], only to find it had some connection with the [[Dead Universe]] and an annoying immunity to being attacked. {{storylink|Dark Cybertron (Legends)|Dark Cybertron}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Starscream (G1)/toys}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Ulchtar.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|]]&lt;br /&gt;
*In [[Jim Shooter]] and [[Denny O&#039;Neil|Denny O&#039;Neil&#039;s]] original Transformers treatment, Starscream was named &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Ulchtar&#039;&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot; Yes. When [[Bob Budiansky]] took over Transformers preproduction from them, he changed it to &amp;quot;Starscream.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://transformers-advent.blogspot.com/2009/07/exclusive-interview-with-bob-budiansky.html Exclusive Interview with Bob Budiansky!]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; And &amp;quot;Starscream&amp;quot; was the name given to [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]]&#039;s bio, so who knows what else was going on. This may be related to a mix-up that involved all three jets&#039; [[Tech Spec]] numbers being switched around (Starscream was given Skywarp&#039;s stats by mistake). &lt;br /&gt;
*An early &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers Universe|Universe]]&#039;&#039;-style character profile published in &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers Comics Magazine]]&#039;&#039; gave Starscream the smirk-worthy nickname of &#039;&#039;&#039;The Silver Snake&#039;&#039;&#039;. A second &amp;quot;alternate name&amp;quot; for Starscream shows up in Bob Budiansky&#039;s hand-written write-up of his bio, which is briefly visible in one of [[Shout! Factory]]&#039;s DVD featurettes. In addition to &amp;quot;The Silver Snake&amp;quot;, the hand-written bio gives Starscream the alternate name of &#039;&#039;&#039;Pretty Poison&#039;&#039;&#039;. Oookay then...&lt;br /&gt;
*An actor in a Starscream costume was among &amp;quot;live&amp;quot; Transformers one could meet at the 1985 [[The Transformers Universal Studios Tour|Universal Studios Tour]].&lt;br /&gt;
*According to the line art of Starscream by Studio OX, each side of his chest has a turbine mounted on it. This concept has influenced his [[Action Master]], [[The Transformers: Masterpiece]], and [[Transformers: Classics|Classics]] toys and the [http://tfu.info/2004/Destron/RMStarscream/starscream.htm art of the Robot Master version].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Transformers Visualworks]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:StarscreamMW Genesis.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|Bringing a [[Particle cannon|cannon]] to a [[canon]]-fight.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*A 1986 [[Panini]] stickerbook sold in Belgium and the Netherlands gave Starscream the alternate French language name &amp;quot;Starscrim&amp;quot;.  Whether this name was used in any other media made for French-speaking regions is unknown.&lt;br /&gt;
*In &#039;&#039;[[Genesis: The Art of Transformers]]&#039;&#039; is a picture by [[Matt Kuphaldt]] of &#039;&#039;[[Machine Wars: Transformers|Machine Wars]]&#039;&#039; Starscream wearing a purple cape and brandishing [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]&#039;s torn-off arm cannon. To date, this remains the only canonical appearance of Starscream in this body—so far as the canonicity of art books can be placed.&lt;br /&gt;
*Starscream appears in the DLC for &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; on the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 in his G1 appearance with quite a few new features, not the least of which is the fact that he can summon and fire [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron&#039;s]] gun mode (despite the fact that Megatron is already playable as a separate downloadable character).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Foreign names===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Japanese:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Starscream&#039;&#039;&#039; (スタースクリーム &#039;&#039;Sutāsukrīmu&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Armenian:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Astghagoch&#039;&#039;&#039; (Աստղագոչ, &amp;quot;Starscream&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Cantonese:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Seng Seng Giu&#039;&#039;&#039; (星星叫, &amp;quot;Star Shouting&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Czech:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Hvězdolam&#039;&#039;&#039; (&amp;quot;Starbreak&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Euskera:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Izaroihu&#039;&#039;&#039; (Basque)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;French:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Égo&#039;&#039;&#039; (Canada)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Hebrew:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Koháv Tsoék&#039;&#039;&#039; (כוכב צועק, &amp;quot;Shouting Star&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Hungarian:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Üstökös&#039;&#039;&#039; (&amp;quot;Comet&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Italian:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Astrum&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Tornado&#039;&#039;&#039;(&amp;quot;Set Commandos&amp;quot; four-pack),&#039;&#039;&#039;Scintillor&#039;&#039;&#039; (&#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Mandarin:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Hǒu Hsīng&#039;&#039;&#039; (Taiwan, 吼星 &amp;quot;Roaring Star&amp;quot;)&amp;lt;!--To be confirmed:, &#039;&#039;&#039;Tīen-wáng-hsīng&#039;&#039;&#039; (Taiwan, 天王星, &amp;quot;Uranus&amp;quot; in direct translation / &amp;quot;Lord of sky and stars&amp;quot; in meaning of translation)--&amp;gt;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Hóng Zhīzhū&#039;&#039;&#039; (China, 紅蜘蛛, &amp;quot;Red Spider&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Polish:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Gwiazdowrzask&#039;&#039;&#039; (&amp;quot;Starscream&amp;quot;), &#039;&#039;&#039;Gwiezdny Krzyk&#039;&#039;&#039; (&#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039;, &amp;quot;Star Cry&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Portuguese:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Estrela-Estridente&#039;&#039;&#039; (Portugal comics, &amp;quot;Shrill Star&amp;quot;), &#039;&#039;&#039;Cometa&#039;&#039;&#039; (Brazil comics, &amp;quot;Comet&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Russian:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Skandalist&#039;&#039;&#039; (cartoon, Скандалист, &amp;quot;Troublemaker&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Spanish:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Grito de Estrella&#039;&#039;&#039; (&amp;quot;Star Cry&amp;quot;), &#039;&#039;&#039;Destello&#039;&#039;&#039; (America &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039;, &amp;quot;Sparkle&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Ukrainian:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Zorekryk&#039;&#039;&#039; (Зорекрик, &amp;quot;Starscream&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Chinese:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Hóng Zhīzhū&#039;&#039;&#039; (红蜘蛛, &amp;quot;Red Spider&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Footnotes==&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&amp;amp;char=Starscream Starscream&#039;s Universe profile at NTFA.net]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/content.php?/transformers-toys/toy-gallery/1784/Generation+2/Starscream.html Gallery of G2 Starscream with comparison to BW Starscream at Transformers At the Moon]&lt;br /&gt;
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Energon_Sword&amp;diff=884370</id>
		<title>Energon Sword</title>
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		<updated>2014-07-17T03:59:00Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;8492nd: /* Notes */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{disambig2|the actual sword|the episode which introduces it|Megatron&#039;s Sword}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:E07 megatronsword.jpg|right|350px|thumb|Profile of Energon Sword.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Originally forged from the Spark of [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] himself, the &#039;&#039;&#039;Energon Sword&#039;&#039;&#039; is a powerful bladed weapon, capable of knocking Autobots around with ease, however do to censor issues, rarely preforms cutting actions&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s also been known as &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;s sword&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;the &#039;&#039;&#039;Star Saber&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; cartoon===&lt;br /&gt;
When [[Alpha Quintesson|Alpha Q]]&#039;s [[Terrorcon (Energon)|Terrorcon]] forces proved insufficient in the mission to steal [[energon]] from the [[Autobot]], the deranged alien sought to use the deactivated Megatron, whose body was at the time trapped in the dormant husk of [[Unicron]], to turn the [[Decepticon]]s to his side. Failing to reawaken the slumbering Megatron, Alpha Quintesson instead used an injection of energon to forge the Energon Sword from his spark itself. He then gave the sword to [[Scorponok (Energon)|Scorponok]], to use as proof of Megatron&#039;s existence, which he hoped would convince the Decepticons to join his forces. During a battle at [[Plains City]], [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]], [[Demolishor (Armada)|Demolishor]] and [[Cyclonus (Armada)|Cyclonus]] all recognized the sword as the essence of Megatron, and Cyclonus switched sides instantly. Demolishor was less convinced, but when [[Ironhide (Energon)|Ironhide]] knocked the sword from Scorponok&#039;s grip with the [[Energon Saber]], the blade landed in the ground in front of the quivering Decepticon. Demolishor slowly reached for the sword, but was stopped by [[Kicker Jones|Kicker]]. [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]] recovered the sword and the Decepticons retreated. {{storylink|Megatron&#039;s Sword}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Scorponok brought the Energon Sword into battle again when the Autobots were establishing their [[Blizzard City]]. [[Signal Flare (Energon)|Signal Flare]] scanned the sword during the battle, acquiring the technical information that would allow the [[Omnicon]]s to forge duplicates of the sword out of energon. {{storylink|The New Cybertron City}} &lt;br /&gt;
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When Alpha Q discovered that the energon the Terrorcons were bringing to Unicron was being diverted away from its purpose of resurrecting the chaos-bringer, Scorponok realized that the dormant Megatron was responsible, having drawn the energon into his body to engineer his rebirth. Attempting to put a stop to the energon theft, Scorponok stabbed Megatron&#039;s corpse with the Energon Sword, but (not unsurprisingly), this act merely restored the Decepticon leader&#039;s spark to his body, allowing Megatron to be fully reborn. The Energon Sword was absorbed into his body, and Megatron became able to summon it from within himself to wield as his personal weapon. {{storylink|Megatron Resurrected}} &lt;br /&gt;
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When Megatron led an attack on the Autobots&#039; [[Ocean City]], the Omnicons rushed to complete their mass-production of their duplicate Energon Swords, completing the process at the eleventh hour. Kicker used a clone sword to hack his way through a wave of Terrorcons, and then handed the blade off to Optimus Prime, who engaged Megatron in a sword fight of explosive proportions. Eventually, faced with the threat of an Autobot army all wielding duplicate swords surrounding them, Megatron and the Decepticons opted for retreat. {{storylink|Megatron Raid}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Some time later, enraged at the Autobots&#039; continued use of the clone swords, Megatron used the power of Unicron to reformat his sword into an even more powerful weapon. The sword was transformed into a combination cannon/blade weapon that mounted on Megatron&#039;s forearm. {{storylink|Energon Tower}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Energon===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MegatronEnergonSword.jpg|right|125px|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Leader Class, 2004)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Megatron&#039;s toy includes a clear plastic Energon Sword blade. The blade stores inside the nosecone of his vehicle mode, which becomes a back-mounted &amp;quot;scabbard&amp;quot; in robot mode. The blade is removed and wielded by plugging Megatron&#039;s tank into the hilt of the scabbard; the blade snaps into place, and when the tank is withdrawn, the blade comes with it. The tank can then be mounted on Megatron&#039;s arm with the sword ready for a bit of slashing action. Striking the sword against another surface activates an electronic clashing sound, and illuminates the blade with a red LED.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron Energon Sword&#039;&#039;&#039; (Roleplay, 2004)&lt;br /&gt;
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:This sizeable roleplay version of the Energon Sword is 33&amp;quot; long when its collapsible blade is extended to its maximum length. A concealed button at the base of the handle activates the sword&#039;s electronics (powered by two C-cell batteries), beginning with a &amp;quot;powering up&amp;quot; sound effect, leading into a constant electronic humming noise. The translucent green blade is illuminated (somewhat dimly) by a bulb within the hilt, and when the sword is struck against a surface, the light flickers in concert with one of two sound effects (the blade being swung, and the blade clashing). Pressing the large white button bearing Decepticon insignia activates the classic transformation sound effect, and causes two &amp;quot;[[Hyper Power]]&amp;quot; blades to pop out of the side of the hilt. Pressing the power button a second time triggers a &amp;quot;power down&amp;quot; noise, and the sword&#039;s electronics turn off. The sword is &#039;&#039;remarkably&#039;&#039; solid – the blade does not easily collapse once extended, and you &#039;&#039;know&#039;&#039; that more than a few kids hurt someone with it.&lt;br /&gt;
:The stock photography featured on the sword&#039;s packaging (seen at right) features several differences from the finished sword, chiefly a blade that is around 50% longer, with a much pointier tip and reversed Hyper Power blades. In addition, the finished sword is missing all the painted purple details on the blade, likely because repeated extension and collapse of the blade would subject them to serious scratching). The three largest light purple details on the hilt are replaced with dark green ones, while the others, along with all the black detailing (save for the grip), are removed entirely&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;&#039;Powerlinx Optimus Prime vs. Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Multi-pack, 2004)&lt;br /&gt;
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:This Hasbro release of the Japanese Ultra Class Galvatron features the same gimmick, except the clashing sound is different, and the blade is formed from translucent green plastic. And yet still illuminated with a red light. &lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;&#039;Galvatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Leader Class, 2004)&lt;br /&gt;
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:A redeco of the first Megatron toy, this figure renders the Energon Sword in translucent orange.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Super Link===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;SL Grand Convoy and Kicker&#039;&#039;&#039; (Multi-pack, 2004)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;SS-03&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Slgrandconvoykicker toy.jpg|right|180px|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
: This limited-edition &amp;quot;Transformer X Microman Anniversary Set&amp;quot; (celebrating the 30th anniversary of &#039;&#039;Microman&#039;&#039; and the 20th anniversary of &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; in Japan) contains an exclusive variant of Kicker, with an exclusive variant of the Deluxe-level [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] toy. This version of Kicker uses clear-black plastic rather than opaque (which makes it &#039;&#039;even more&#039;&#039; susceptible to breaking with even moderate pressure than the normal Microman Kicker, so &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;be careful&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;), uses vacuum-metalized chrome on the body armor, plus along with a gold-chromed version of the Energon Saber accessory, also has an exclusive chromed &amp;quot;Destron Clone Sword&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;&#039;Galvatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Ultra Class, 2004)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;SD-07&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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: This downsized version of Megatron features the same gimmick, except the clashing sound is different, and the blade is formed from translucent green plastic. And yet still illuminated with a red light.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;&#039;Galvatron G&#039;&#039;&#039; (Ultra Class, 2004)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;SD-20&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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: A redeco of &#039;&#039;Super Link&#039;&#039; Galvatron, this figure renders the Energon Sword in translucent yellow.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
* The English dub of the &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; cartoon never once managed to get the name or origin of the sword right. It&#039;s first referred to as &amp;quot;the Star Saber,&amp;quot; which is [[Star Saber (Armada)|a different weapon entirely]]. It&#039;s then called &amp;quot;Megatron&#039;s sword,&amp;quot; and spoken of as if Megatron had used it before, which is not correct either. As noted above, it was supposed to have been created from the &#039;&#039;spark&#039;&#039; of Megatron, hence everyone&#039;s recognition of its association with him, but this fact was among the plot points lost in the English dub of the cartoon.&lt;br /&gt;
*The &#039;&#039;Toy Laser Sword&#039;&#039; weapon from the Capcom game &#039;&#039;Dead Rising&#039;&#039; is modeled after the Energon Megatron Sword Role Play Toy, the only differences being that the blade is colored red instead of green and the hilt mounted &#039;Hyper Blades&#039; are pointing downward instead of upward. The weapon even has a tiny Decepticon symbol on a white background just like the toy.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Foreign names===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Japanese:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron Sword&#039;&#039;&#039; (メガトロンソード &#039;&#039;Megatoron Sōdo&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Blades]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Energon|Sword]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Energon weapons]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Energon Sword</title>
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		<updated>2014-07-17T03:55:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;8492nd: /* Toys */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{disambig2|the actual sword|the episode which introduces it|Megatron&#039;s Sword}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:E07 megatronsword.jpg|right|350px|thumb|Profile of Energon Sword.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Originally forged from the Spark of [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] himself, the &#039;&#039;&#039;Energon Sword&#039;&#039;&#039; is a powerful bladed weapon, capable of knocking Autobots around with ease, however do to censor issues, rarely preforms cutting actions&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s also been known as &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;s sword&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;the &#039;&#039;&#039;Star Saber&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; cartoon===&lt;br /&gt;
When [[Alpha Quintesson|Alpha Q]]&#039;s [[Terrorcon (Energon)|Terrorcon]] forces proved insufficient in the mission to steal [[energon]] from the [[Autobot]], the deranged alien sought to use the deactivated Megatron, whose body was at the time trapped in the dormant husk of [[Unicron]], to turn the [[Decepticon]]s to his side. Failing to reawaken the slumbering Megatron, Alpha Quintesson instead used an injection of energon to forge the Energon Sword from his spark itself. He then gave the sword to [[Scorponok (Energon)|Scorponok]], to use as proof of Megatron&#039;s existence, which he hoped would convince the Decepticons to join his forces. During a battle at [[Plains City]], [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]], [[Demolishor (Armada)|Demolishor]] and [[Cyclonus (Armada)|Cyclonus]] all recognized the sword as the essence of Megatron, and Cyclonus switched sides instantly. Demolishor was less convinced, but when [[Ironhide (Energon)|Ironhide]] knocked the sword from Scorponok&#039;s grip with the [[Energon Saber]], the blade landed in the ground in front of the quivering Decepticon. Demolishor slowly reached for the sword, but was stopped by [[Kicker Jones|Kicker]]. [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]] recovered the sword and the Decepticons retreated. {{storylink|Megatron&#039;s Sword}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Scorponok brought the Energon Sword into battle again when the Autobots were establishing their [[Blizzard City]]. [[Signal Flare (Energon)|Signal Flare]] scanned the sword during the battle, acquiring the technical information that would allow the [[Omnicon]]s to forge duplicates of the sword out of energon. {{storylink|The New Cybertron City}} &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When Alpha Q discovered that the energon the Terrorcons were bringing to Unicron was being diverted away from its purpose of resurrecting the chaos-bringer, Scorponok realized that the dormant Megatron was responsible, having drawn the energon into his body to engineer his rebirth. Attempting to put a stop to the energon theft, Scorponok stabbed Megatron&#039;s corpse with the Energon Sword, but (not unsurprisingly), this act merely restored the Decepticon leader&#039;s spark to his body, allowing Megatron to be fully reborn. The Energon Sword was absorbed into his body, and Megatron became able to summon it from within himself to wield as his personal weapon. {{storylink|Megatron Resurrected}} &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When Megatron led an attack on the Autobots&#039; [[Ocean City]], the Omnicons rushed to complete their mass-production of their duplicate Energon Swords, completing the process at the eleventh hour. Kicker used a clone sword to hack his way through a wave of Terrorcons, and then handed the blade off to Optimus Prime, who engaged Megatron in a sword fight of explosive proportions. Eventually, faced with the threat of an Autobot army all wielding duplicate swords surrounding them, Megatron and the Decepticons opted for retreat. {{storylink|Megatron Raid}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some time later, enraged at the Autobots&#039; continued use of the clone swords, Megatron used the power of Unicron to reformat his sword into an even more powerful weapon. The sword was transformed into a combination cannon/blade weapon that mounted on Megatron&#039;s forearm. {{storylink|Energon Tower}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Energon===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MegatronEnergonSword.jpg|right|125px|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Leader Class, 2004)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Megatron&#039;s toy includes a clear plastic Energon Sword blade. The blade stores inside the nosecone of his vehicle mode, which becomes a back-mounted &amp;quot;scabbard&amp;quot; in robot mode. The blade is removed and wielded by plugging Megatron&#039;s tank into the hilt of the scabbard; the blade snaps into place, and when the tank is withdrawn, the blade comes with it. The tank can then be mounted on Megatron&#039;s arm with the sword ready for a bit of slashing action. Striking the sword against another surface activates an electronic clashing sound, and illuminates the blade with a red LED.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron Energon Sword&#039;&#039;&#039; (Roleplay, 2004)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:This sizeable roleplay version of the Energon Sword is 33&amp;quot; long when its collapsible blade is extended to its maximum length. A concealed button at the base of the handle activates the sword&#039;s electronics (powered by two C-cell batteries), beginning with a &amp;quot;powering up&amp;quot; sound effect, leading into a constant electronic humming noise. The translucent green blade is illuminated (somewhat dimly) by a bulb within the hilt, and when the sword is struck against a surface, the light flickers in concert with one of two sound effects (the blade being swung, and the blade clashing). Pressing the large white button bearing Decepticon insignia activates the classic transformation sound effect, and causes two &amp;quot;[[Hyper Power]]&amp;quot; blades to pop out of the side of the hilt. Pressing the power button a second time triggers a &amp;quot;power down&amp;quot; noise, and the sword&#039;s electronics turn off. The sword is &#039;&#039;remarkably&#039;&#039; solid – the blade does not easily collapse once extended, and you &#039;&#039;know&#039;&#039; that more than a few kids hurt someone with it.&lt;br /&gt;
:The stock photography featured on the sword&#039;s packaging (seen at right) features several differences from the finished sword, chiefly a blade that is around 50% longer, with a much pointier tip and reversed Hyper Power blades. In addition, the finished sword is missing all the painted purple details on the blade, likely because repeated extension and collapse of the blade would subject them to serious scratching). The three largest light purple details on the hilt are replaced with dark green ones, while the others, along with all the black detailing (save for the grip), are removed entirely&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Powerlinx Optimus Prime vs. Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Multi-pack, 2004)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:This Hasbro release of the Japanese Ultra Class Galvatron features the same gimmick, except the clashing sound is different, and the blade is formed from translucent green plastic. And yet still illuminated with a red light. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Galvatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Leader Class, 2004)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A redeco of the first Megatron toy, this figure renders the Energon Sword in translucent orange.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Super Link===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;SL Grand Convoy and Kicker&#039;&#039;&#039; (Multi-pack, 2004)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;SS-03&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Slgrandconvoykicker toy.jpg|right|180px|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
: This limited-edition &amp;quot;Transformer X Microman Anniversary Set&amp;quot; (celebrating the 30th anniversary of &#039;&#039;Microman&#039;&#039; and the 20th anniversary of &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; in Japan) contains an exclusive variant of Kicker, with an exclusive variant of the Deluxe-level [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] toy. This version of Kicker uses clear-black plastic rather than opaque (which makes it &#039;&#039;even more&#039;&#039; susceptible to breaking with even moderate pressure than the normal Microman Kicker, so &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;be careful&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;), uses vacuum-metalized chrome on the body armor, plus along with a gold-chromed version of the Energon Saber accessory, also has an exclusive chromed &amp;quot;Destron Clone Sword&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Galvatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Ultra Class, 2004)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;SD-07&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: This downsized version of Megatron features the same gimmick, except the clashing sound is different, and the blade is formed from translucent green plastic. And yet still illuminated with a red light.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Galvatron G&#039;&#039;&#039; (Ultra Class, 2004)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;SD-20&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: A redeco of &#039;&#039;Super Link&#039;&#039; Galvatron, this figure renders the Energon Sword in translucent yellow.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
* The English dub of the &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; cartoon never once managed to get the name or origin of the sword right. It&#039;s first referred to as &amp;quot;the Star Saber,&amp;quot; which is [[Star Saber (Armada)|a different weapon entirely]]. It&#039;s then called &amp;quot;Megatron&#039;s sword,&amp;quot; and spoken of as if Megatron had used it before, which is not correct either. As noted above, it was supposed to have been created from the &#039;&#039;spark&#039;&#039; of Megatron, hence everyone&#039;s recognition of its association with him, but this fact was among the countless plot points lost in the English dub of the cartoon.&lt;br /&gt;
*The &#039;&#039;Toy Laser Sword&#039;&#039; weapon from the Capcom game &#039;&#039;Dead Rising&#039;&#039; is modeled after the Energon Megatron Sword Role Play Toy, the only differences being that the blade is colored red instead of green and the hilt mounted &#039;Hyper Blades&#039; are pointing downward instead of upward. The weapon even has a tiny Decepticon symbol on a white background just like the toy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Foreign names===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Japanese:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron Sword&#039;&#039;&#039; (メガトロンソード &#039;&#039;Megatoron Sōdo&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Blades]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Energon|Sword]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Energon weapons]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Energon_Sword&amp;diff=884366</id>
		<title>Energon Sword</title>
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		<updated>2014-07-17T03:54:16Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;{{disambig2|the actual sword|the episode which introduces it|Megatron&#039;s Sword}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:E07 megatronsword.jpg|right|350px|thumb|Profile of Energon Sword.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Originally forged from the Spark of [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] himself, the &#039;&#039;&#039;Energon Sword&#039;&#039;&#039; is a powerful bladed weapon, capable of knocking Autobots around with ease, however do to censor issues, rarely preforms cutting actions&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s also been known as &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;s sword&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;the &#039;&#039;&#039;Star Saber&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; cartoon===&lt;br /&gt;
When [[Alpha Quintesson|Alpha Q]]&#039;s [[Terrorcon (Energon)|Terrorcon]] forces proved insufficient in the mission to steal [[energon]] from the [[Autobot]], the deranged alien sought to use the deactivated Megatron, whose body was at the time trapped in the dormant husk of [[Unicron]], to turn the [[Decepticon]]s to his side. Failing to reawaken the slumbering Megatron, Alpha Quintesson instead used an injection of energon to forge the Energon Sword from his spark itself. He then gave the sword to [[Scorponok (Energon)|Scorponok]], to use as proof of Megatron&#039;s existence, which he hoped would convince the Decepticons to join his forces. During a battle at [[Plains City]], [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]], [[Demolishor (Armada)|Demolishor]] and [[Cyclonus (Armada)|Cyclonus]] all recognized the sword as the essence of Megatron, and Cyclonus switched sides instantly. Demolishor was less convinced, but when [[Ironhide (Energon)|Ironhide]] knocked the sword from Scorponok&#039;s grip with the [[Energon Saber]], the blade landed in the ground in front of the quivering Decepticon. Demolishor slowly reached for the sword, but was stopped by [[Kicker Jones|Kicker]]. [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]] recovered the sword and the Decepticons retreated. {{storylink|Megatron&#039;s Sword}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Scorponok brought the Energon Sword into battle again when the Autobots were establishing their [[Blizzard City]]. [[Signal Flare (Energon)|Signal Flare]] scanned the sword during the battle, acquiring the technical information that would allow the [[Omnicon]]s to forge duplicates of the sword out of energon. {{storylink|The New Cybertron City}} &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When Alpha Q discovered that the energon the Terrorcons were bringing to Unicron was being diverted away from its purpose of resurrecting the chaos-bringer, Scorponok realized that the dormant Megatron was responsible, having drawn the energon into his body to engineer his rebirth. Attempting to put a stop to the energon theft, Scorponok stabbed Megatron&#039;s corpse with the Energon Sword, but (not unsurprisingly), this act merely restored the Decepticon leader&#039;s spark to his body, allowing Megatron to be fully reborn. The Energon Sword was absorbed into his body, and Megatron became able to summon it from within himself to wield as his personal weapon. {{storylink|Megatron Resurrected}} &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When Megatron led an attack on the Autobots&#039; [[Ocean City]], the Omnicons rushed to complete their mass-production of their duplicate Energon Swords, completing the process at the eleventh hour. Kicker used a clone sword to hack his way through a wave of Terrorcons, and then handed the blade off to Optimus Prime, who engaged Megatron in a sword fight of explosive proportions. Eventually, faced with the threat of an Autobot army all wielding duplicate swords surrounding them, Megatron and the Decepticons opted for retreat. {{storylink|Megatron Raid}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some time later, enraged at the Autobots&#039; continued use of the clone swords, Megatron used the power of Unicron to reformat his sword into an even more powerful weapon. The sword was transformed into a combination cannon/blade weapon that mounted on Megatron&#039;s forearm. {{storylink|Energon Tower}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Energon===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MegatronEnergonSword.jpg|right|125px|thumb|Decept... Decept... Decept... Decepticons, ho!]]&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Leader Class, 2004)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Megatron&#039;s toy includes a clear plastic Energon Sword blade. The blade stores inside the nosecone of his vehicle mode, which becomes a back-mounted &amp;quot;scabbard&amp;quot; in robot mode. The blade is removed and wielded by plugging Megatron&#039;s tank into the hilt of the scabbard; the blade snaps into place, and when the tank is withdrawn, the blade comes with it. The tank can then be mounted on Megatron&#039;s arm with the sword ready for a bit of slashing action. Striking the sword against another surface activates an electronic clashing sound, and illuminates the blade with a red LED.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron Energon Sword&#039;&#039;&#039; (Roleplay, 2004)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:This sizeable roleplay version of the Energon Sword is 33&amp;quot; long when its collapsible blade is extended to its maximum length. A concealed button at the base of the handle activates the sword&#039;s electronics (powered by two C-cell batteries), beginning with a &amp;quot;powering up&amp;quot; sound effect, leading into a constant electronic humming noise. The translucent green blade is illuminated (somewhat dimly) by a bulb within the hilt, and when the sword is struck against a surface, the light flickers in concert with one of two sound effects (the blade being swung, and the blade clashing). Pressing the large white button bearing Decepticon insignia activates the classic transformation sound effect, and causes two &amp;quot;[[Hyper Power]]&amp;quot; blades to pop out of the side of the hilt. Pressing the power button a second time triggers a &amp;quot;power down&amp;quot; noise, and the sword&#039;s electronics turn off. The sword is &#039;&#039;remarkably&#039;&#039; solid – the blade does not easily collapse once extended, and you &#039;&#039;know&#039;&#039; that more than a few kids hurt someone with it.&lt;br /&gt;
:The stock photography featured on the sword&#039;s packaging (seen at right) features several differences from the finished sword, chiefly a blade that is around 50% longer, with a much pointier tip and reversed Hyper Power blades. In addition, the finished sword is missing all the painted purple details on the blade, likely because repeated extension and collapse of the blade would subject them to serious scratching). The three largest light purple details on the hilt are replaced with dark green ones, while the others, along with all the black detailing (save for the grip), are removed entirely&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Powerlinx Optimus Prime vs. Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Multi-pack, 2004)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:This Hasbro release of the Japanese Ultra Class Galvatron features the same gimmick, except the clashing sound is different, and the blade is formed from translucent green plastic. And yet still illuminated with a red light. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Galvatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Leader Class, 2004)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A redeco of the first Megatron toy, this figure renders the Energon Sword in translucent orange.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Super Link===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;SL Grand Convoy and Kicker&#039;&#039;&#039; (Multi-pack, 2004)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;SS-03&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Slgrandconvoykicker toy.jpg|right|180px|thumb|KICKER KICKER OUR PLANETS KICKER]]&lt;br /&gt;
: This limited-edition &amp;quot;Transformer X Microman Anniversary Set&amp;quot; (celebrating the 30th anniversary of &#039;&#039;Microman&#039;&#039; and the 20th anniversary of &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; in Japan) contains an exclusive variant of Kicker, with an exclusive variant of the Deluxe-level [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] toy. This version of Kicker uses clear-black plastic rather than opaque (which makes it &#039;&#039;even more&#039;&#039; susceptible to breaking with even moderate pressure than the normal Microman Kicker, so &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;be careful&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;), uses vacuum-metalized chrome on the body armor, plus along with a gold-chromed version of the Energon Saber accessory, also has an exclusive chromed &amp;quot;Destron Clone Sword&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Galvatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Ultra Class, 2004)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;SD-07&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: This downsized version of Megatron features the same gimmick, except the clashing sound is different, and the blade is formed from translucent green plastic. And yet still illuminated with a red light.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Galvatron G&#039;&#039;&#039; (Ultra Class, 2004)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;SD-20&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: A redeco of &#039;&#039;Super Link&#039;&#039; Galvatron, this figure renders the Energon Sword in translucent yellow.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
* The English dub of the &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; cartoon never once managed to get the name or origin of the sword right. It&#039;s first referred to as &amp;quot;the Star Saber,&amp;quot; which is [[Star Saber (Armada)|a different weapon entirely]]. It&#039;s then called &amp;quot;Megatron&#039;s sword,&amp;quot; and spoken of as if Megatron had used it before, which is not correct either. As noted above, it was supposed to have been created from the &#039;&#039;spark&#039;&#039; of Megatron, hence everyone&#039;s recognition of its association with him, but this fact was among the countless plot points lost in the English dub of the cartoon.&lt;br /&gt;
*The &#039;&#039;Toy Laser Sword&#039;&#039; weapon from the Capcom game &#039;&#039;Dead Rising&#039;&#039; is modeled after the Energon Megatron Sword Role Play Toy, the only differences being that the blade is colored red instead of green and the hilt mounted &#039;Hyper Blades&#039; are pointing downward instead of upward. The weapon even has a tiny Decepticon symbol on a white background just like the toy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Foreign names===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Japanese:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron Sword&#039;&#039;&#039; (メガトロンソード &#039;&#039;Megatoron Sōdo&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Blades]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Energon|Sword]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Energon weapons]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>8492nd</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Scorn</title>
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		<updated>2014-07-02T01:29:03Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;{{factions|autobotfilm}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{disambig3|Scorn}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Scorn is a [[Dinobot (AOE)|Dinobot]] from the [[Transformers: Age of Extinction (franchise)|Age of Extinction]] portion of the [[live-action film series]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:AOE Spinosaurus concept.jpg|right|thumb|400px|Illusion never changed into something real.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Scorn&#039;&#039;&#039; is what happens when you combine a destructive war machine with a predator. Nothing else so much as a destroyer on two legs, he&#039;s strong and massive. Not only capable of using his &#039;&#039;Spinosaurus&#039;&#039; alternate mode in combat, Scorn is also a demolitions specialist and wields the Scrapmaker Sword in &#039;bot mode. His massive size makes him almost impossible to bring down. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/characters.cfm?bot=Scorn&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Age of Extinction&#039;&#039; film===&lt;br /&gt;
{{spoiler|Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|July 28}} &lt;br /&gt;
Scorn was trapped aboard [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]]&#039;s vessel until [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and the Autobots stole the section of the ship he was imprisoned on, though Optimus did not reveal the Dinobots&#039; presence to his men until the time came for reinforcements. Optimus offered an ultimatum: stand with the Autobots against their mysterious Creators and [[Galvatron (AOE)|Galvatron]]&#039;s Decepticons, or face death at his hands. [[Grimlock (AOE)|Grimlock]] submitted to his command when beaten in single combat by the Autobot leader, there by earning his respect, and Scorn and the other Dinobots followed suit. Scorn allowed [[Crosshairs (Movie)|Crosshairs]] to ride him into the Hong Kong battle, where Scorn&#039;s massive size and lethal sail-spikes proved a great asset in turning the tide. Scorn accompanied the group to try to escort the Seed to safety, but Lockdown returned and turned his tractor beam on them. Scorn would&#039;ve been recaptured by the bounty hunter had Optimus not destroyed the tractor beam. Scorn helped defend the Seed on a bridge with the other Autobots and Dinobots until Optimus was able to defeat Lockdown. The battle over, Optimus gave the Dinobots their freedom, and Scorn parted with Crosshairs on good terms, who even gave him a new nickname, &amp;quot;Spike&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
{{storylink|Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
====Generations====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:AOEGenerationsDeluxeScorn.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I&#039;m wide awake and I can see the perfect guy is Scorn.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Scorn&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe Class, 2014)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Series&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;M4: #004&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;AD05&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; Sword&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Part of the first wave of &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Age of Extinction (franchise)| Age of Extinction]]&#039;&#039;-themed &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]&#039;&#039; Deluxe class toys, Scorn transforms from a robot into a red &#039;&#039;Spinosaurus&#039;&#039; (albeit with a single sail, seemingly indicating the triple-sailed design was a late change to the movie character).  His sword can be stored inside his tail, but he can only hold it in his right hand in robot mode, as his left arm converts from his tail into a [[lance]].&lt;br /&gt;
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{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====Power Battlers====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:TF2014toy-PowerBattlerScorn.jpg|right|thumb|300px|You&#039;re a little late, I&#039;m already Scorn.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Scorn&#039;&#039;&#039; (Power Battler, 2014)&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoontoy}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====Kre-O====&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;See: &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Scorn (Kre-O)]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Age of Extinction Autobots]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Dinobots]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Knights]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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