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Noctorro

2012-07-28T09:54:33Z

86.147.200.142: /* Beast Wars */

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{{picsneeded|toy, fiction}}
:''Noctorro is a [[Maximal]] from the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
[[Image:Ascending2_Noctorro.jpg|right|thumb|220px|''Nana-nana-nana-nana'', Bat-Bull!]]
One of the oldest Maximals around, '''Noctorro''' relies on his own body during combat instead of weapons. His short temper coupled with great strength make him a very dangerous opponent. He believes that swift action decides the day, and any indecisive Maximal standing around in his presence is sure to earn Noctorro's disgust. He oftentimes attempts to guide the younger Maximal [[Jawbreaker]], but his efforts in tutoring the young 'bot have yet to yield results.

==Fiction==
===IDW ''Beast Wars'' comics===
Noctorro was one of the [[protoform]]s jettisoned from the ''[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]'' on prehistoric [[Earth]]. He was activated and put in [[chronal phase]] by [[Razorbeast]] at [[Magmatron]]'s request, but was protected from Magmatron's Predacon shell-program by Razorbeast's viral code. Soon after awakening, he joined up with [[K-9]], [[Bantor (BW)|Bantor]], [[Stinkbomb]], [[Armordillo]], and [[Torca]]. During their journey to meet up with Razorbeast, Torca got stuck in some mud, and Noctorro and the others helped free him. After following Razorbeast's signal for days, and picking up more Maximals along the way, Noctorro and the rest rushed into battle against Magmatron's [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]]. The Maximals won that altercation, and awaited rescue from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{storylink|Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering|The Gathering}}

When the Predacons launched an all-out assault, Noctorro could be found in the thick of things, doing his best to push the tide in the Maximals' favor. But after [[Rartorata]] arrived and infected Razorbeast with [[Angolmois]], Noctorro put his best efforts into both containing the berserk Maximal and helping to defeat the giant [[Blendtron]]. {{storylink|The Ascending issue 1|The Ascending # 1}} {{storylink|The Ascending issue 2|The Ascending #2}} {{storylink|The Ascending issue 3|The Ascending #3}}

Noctorro returned to Cybertron on the [[Pack]]'s transwarp cruiser and led an aerial attack against [[Shokaract]], which resulted in his nearly-immediate and violent death. Bet he wished he stayed on Earth. {{storylink|The Ascending issue 4|The Ascending #4}}

==Toys==
===Beast Wars===
*'''Noctorro''' (Basic Fuzor, 1998)

:Noctorro's beast mode is a combination of bat and water buffalo. The resulting monstrosity looks nothing short of demonic. His transformation is very basic, mainly involving standing up the Fuzor, spinning his pelvic and knee joints, disconnecting his arms from the larger segment of his bat-wings, and flipping down his beast-mode head into his chest. He features a spring-loaded gimmick: The wing segments protruding from his mid-section can be pulled back and locked into place. By pressing a button on his back, they revert to their default position, creating a flapping/swiping motion. Although still functional in robot mode, this gimmick is more effective in beast mode.

::*''[http://tfu.info/1998/Maximal/Noctorro/noctorro.htm More information on Noctorro at TFU.info]''

==Notes==
===Foreign names===
*''Italian:'' '''Toro Alato'''

[[Category:Beast Wars Maximals]]
[[Category:Elderly Transformers]]
[[Category:Fuzors]]
[[Category:Reconnaissance specialists]]

Side Burn (G1)

2011-11-22T16:00:13Z

86.147.166.40: Undo revision 664601 by Detour (Talk)

{{disambig3|Side Burn}}
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:''Side Burn is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
{{faction|autobot}}

[[Image:SideburnTimelines-profile.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Side Burn, our eyes are up here.]]

It's hard to believe that '''Side Burn''' and [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] are from the same production run. A glitch in the production run caused Side Burn to roll off the assembly line vastly different in appearance from the others, and especially different in personality from Prowl in specific. Side Burn is prone to distraction, uninterested in rules, interested in speed, and ''super'' interested in females. These traits combined get Side Burn into all sorts of trouble, and Prowl feels it falls to him to keep his friend on the straight and narrow. This task may, however, be a fool's errand.

Side Burn wields a [[plasma rifle]], and his rear-mounted thruster engine can support him in battle either as a weapon or as a jetpack. When the occasion calls for it, he can reveal the [[Sonic Buzz Saw]] in his left arm. There are probably other things he can reveal when other occasions call for it, but let's not talk about that, please.

{{Quote|Obama is the ""Real Enemy!""||Side Burn getting distracted|Battle Lines, Part 3}}

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==Fiction==
===''Wings Universe''===
[[Image:BattleLines1-RoadRageSideBurnNotTAI.jpg|left|thumb|400px|He's whatever war hero you want him to be, baby.]]
At the dawn of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]], Side Burn was a young Autobot who had joined the resistance movement against the growing [[Decepticon]] threat.

In order to get sympathy from some [[Red waitress Transformer|sexy]] [[Road Rage (G1)|fembots]], Side Burn posed as the survivor of the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]]' raid on the [[Cybertron Elite Guard|Elite Guard]]. It seemed to be working until [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] showed up and called Side Burn by name. Since the real survivor's name was [[Dion]], the ladies became less interested. Reminding Side Burn that it was a felony offence to impersonate an Elite Guardsman, Prowl dragged Side Burn away to his real duties elsewhere at the [[Autobot High Council Citadel]]. Side Burn was among the Autobot warriors present when [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] accepted his appointment as [[Supreme Commander|commander]] of the new Autobot military. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 1}}

[[Image:BattleLines3-mistakes.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]

Side Burn was absent from Optimus Prime's mission briefing. When asked about his absence, Prowl believed he knew where he was. It turned out, he was shadowing [[Magnum]] and the Elite Guard as they searched for [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]]. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 2}} Side Burn interrupted their search, claiming to know where their target's newest base was located. Though Side Burn didn't really know, he was loud enough that the Decepticons homed in on them first. The Autobots were suddenly surrounded by an immense Decepticon army led by Deathsaurus' new lieutenant, [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. Side Burn joined the Autobots in desperately fighting off their attackers, including grabbing [[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]]. But at a crucial moment, he was distracted by [[Lyzack|a hot femicon with a sword]]. Blast Off took advantage of this by shooting Side Burn, lecturing the Autobot on the importance of paying attention. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 3}}

Thankfully, Side Burn and the others were backed up by reinforcements composed of several of the Elite Guard previously thought dead. In the confusion, Side Burn was able to turn the tables on Blast Off by securing him with [[power bond]]s and sitting on him. Still, Side Burn remained distracted by Lyzack, especially when she started laying into Magnum with her sword, but his painting-her-red fantasies were cut off when [[Thunder Clash|Thunderclash]] belted her. At that point he realized he was standing right next to [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], and blasted the Decepticon. The Decepticons retreated and Side Burn returned with the other Autobots to their headquarters. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 4}}

One week later, Side Burn was in [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] with Magnum and Optimus Prime when the pair were interrupted by another Decepticon attack. As they rushed to the walls, they saw them being broken through by the newly-created [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 5}}

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==Toys==
===Timelines===
[[Image:Timelinestoy-SideBurn.jpg|right|thumb|400px|When he hits on [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], it's ''super'' creepy!]]
*'''Side Burn''' (Deluxe, 2011)
**''Accessories'': Thruster/missile launcher, "flame" missile

: ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' Side Burn is a blue and white [[redeco]] of [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#Classics_.282006.29|''Classics'' Rodimus]], transforming into a heavily-altered [http://www.supercarnet.jp/File/File-Japan/File-Dome.htm Dome Zero]. Side Burn's rear-mounted thruster engine becomes a hand-held weapon in robot mode, launching a spring-loaded missile, or can remain attached to his back to act as a jetpack. His left arm hides a flip-out (non-spinning) buzzsaw.

: Side Burn is the [[2011]] [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] free figure, mailed to new or returning club members who got their registration in by [[March 16]], 2011. Due to customs delays, he was ultimately shipped to members in late July/early August. The remaining stock was put on sale at the Club store on [[August 17]], and sold out in under three hours. Due to insufficient packaging, many Side Burns arrived with their spoiler tips bent. Like many later versions of the Rodimus toy, Side Burn sadly suffers from a loose left arm and an unstable backpack.

:A noticeable percentage of Side Burns sent to international club members took an ''exceptionally'' long time to arrive, but most (or all) did eventually turn up, a full month or more after the advertised latest possible delivery date. Fun Publications won itself no praise by selling the excess stock of the figure through their store half a month before the actual delivery deadline was even up.

: This mold was also used to make "[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (toyline)|Shattered Glass]]" [[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]] and ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Gentei! Gentei!]]'' [[Wildrider (G1)|Wildrider]].

==Notes==
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] shows off the Side Burn toy in "[[Mega Spice -- The Transformer Your Fan Could Be Like]]".
* Side Burn's profile card is full of fragment sentence errors, plus it uses "can't" when it wants to use "can," rendering its opening sentence nonsensical.

[[Category:Fan Club exclusives]]
[[Category:Fan Club-original characters]]
[[Category:Timelines characters]]
[[Category:Wings Universe Autobots]]

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2011-11-22T15:59:23Z

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== Aligned Timeline ==

I'm going to try and take a stab at creating an Aligned timeline that unites everything we know about the franchise(s) so far. Any help would be greatly appreciated. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 09:48, 17 October 2011 (EDT)

== Help Wanted ==

Hello one and all. I'm here representing a newly created Role-Playing forum that is based in the Transformers Universe. We're in the early stages yet, and are looking for people to help get the ball rolling. Since this site seems to lack a dedicated forum (where requests like these would usually be made) and I haven't seen any other way to effectively say my piece in front of a large audience, I thought that posting here was the best way to "advertise" us, as it were. I sincerely apologize if this was the wrong move on our part, or if I've breached protocol at all, but I can assure everyone that our intentions aren't malign. Those interested, please contact me using any of the ways that I have listed on my username page here on this site. I won't tempt fate by linking our website here directly =P

Once again, you all have my sincere greetings, and I hope to hear from you soon. Also, as a side note: the difference in quality between this page and the transformers wikia is amazing. [[User:Rathian Warrior|Rathian Warrior]] 23:50, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
:I'm not sure if you've crossed any lines, and frankly, you were polite enough about it that it's not a big deal, but you could always buy some ad space if you want to raise awareness of your forum. It's cheap! There's usually a link on every page around the banners, but if you didn't catch it, you can follow this link: [https://www.projectwonderful.com/advertisehere.php?id=25311&type=4 Project Wonderful TFWiki Page]--[[User:McFly|McFly]] 16:13, 8 November 2011 (EST)

== "Fictional" and "real" categories ==
I think we need to come up with a consistent way to distinguish categories of things that are real and categories of things that have appeared in fiction. So far, we've skimmed the issue by using synonyms, such as [[:Category:Companies|companies]] and [[:Category:Businesses|businesses]], but that doesn't really work for things like [[:Category:Magazines|magazines]], which is already used for real magazines. Currently, we have [[:Category:Fictional books]], [[:Category:Fictional video games]] that consider the fictional entities "different". On the other hand, we have [[:Category:Real-world events by day]] and [[:Category:Real world films]]. We focus more on the fictional aspect of Transformers, so it makes sense to not point out the fictionality in categories, but "real world" sounds awkward to some. Which one should we use? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:26, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:I thought I'd cheat and see how some of the other fictional Wikis deal with the problem. Three different approaches I saw:
:*[http://tardis.wikia.com/ Doctor Who wiki] has a [http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Real_world "Real World" category] for real world stuff and in most cases the categories for real world things are at "Real world X".
:*[http://wookiepedia.org/ Wookiepedia] goes the parenthetical route, with "Books" and "Books (real-world)". Though they also have one or two like "Real world companies".
:*[http://stargate.wikia.com/ Stargate wiki] has "Books" versus "Stargate books" for real world books.
:I kinda like the parenthetical approach that Wookiepedia have taken. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 03:11, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::I'd favor pointing out the status of both categories, just to make absolutely clear what they are for. The words can be "Fictional" and "Real-world" (I notice both real-world categories use a different spelling. Whichever it's gonna be (if), only one spelling should be used). "Nonfictional" kinda works as an alternative, would "Real-world" be disliked. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 04:35, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::If we go that route, I think "real-world" should be used, since "real world" is a lot more easier to fix than the other parsing. I like the Wookiepedia approach, but I'm not sure that's enough to change how we already do categories. The idea to label both categories sounds nice, but "Fictional X" seems incongruous with unlabeled categories, such as "weapons", "technology", etc.; considering that our main focus is the fiction, I'm leaning towards only labeling the real stuff. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 13:02, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::::I think it would be advantageous to put a {{tl|disambig2}} at the top, so people could easily go from the fictional to the real world category too. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:30, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::Yeah, I think I put that on [[:Category:Films]] a while ago. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:57, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::Speaking of this, I found we handle [[:Category:Films]] like [[:Category:Real people]], wouldn't this be some, um, confusing? It's just, somehow, reverse? (Except for the fictional films like ''Honoji'') According to the logic of how we handle [[:Category:Real people]], shouldn't we place films like ''40-Year-Old Virgin'' or ''Godzilla'' in the [[:Category:Real world films]]? --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 23:04, 6 September 2011 (EDT)
::::::::Godzilla doesn't go in "Real world films" because it's not a real world ''Transformers'' film. The Transformers is implied in that category name. Presumably we could have a "Real films" category for Godzilla, etc, but I'm not sure it's worth doing. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:53, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::We shouldn't use "fictional X" for two reasons. One, there things like [[As the Kitchen Sinks]] that are fictional even within the fictional Transformers universe. Second, the wiki is written in-universe by default and putting [[Big Steve's Used Cars]] in a "fictional businesses" category would kind of break that. Within Transformers fiction, "Big Steve's Used Cars" is not a fictional company, but "As the Kitchen Sinks" is a fictional TV show. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:47, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::In-universe, As the Kitchen Sinks is not a fictional show. It depicts fictional events and fictional people, yes, but the show itself, as a piece of entertainment, is not fictional. I do get your point, as we actually have things like [[Frankenstein]] that are two layers of fiction removed from us. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 19:18, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::::Yes, of course. I meant, in-universe, ''As the Kitchen Sinks'' is a work of fiction, whereas "Big Steve's Used Cars" is a real business that sells real used cars to real people. Have I been saying it wrong all this time? Wasn't ''Buck Rogers'' a fictional TV show? Anyway, it sounds like you got my point. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:14, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::::Or, judging by the fact categories like "Magazines" in used for magazines in our real life and "Companies" for companies in real life, why not just use "Film" for films (such as DOTM) in real life, while we move current contents in "Films" to "Films in ''Transformers'' fictions"? --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 23:04, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::::::That seems like it would go counter to some of our existing naming schemes. e.g. if we split that out into films by franchise, you'd get "Films in Generation 1" rather than "Generation 1 films". Though admittedly the former title might have the advantage that it's clearer in meaning. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:50, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::::::I think both are equally ambiguous in their meaning. If we still need to clarify the purpose of the categories, we can always spell it out in the category's introduction. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:03, 7 September 2011 (EDT)

== "Transformers: " ==
We talked a bit about adding back "Transformers: " to the titles of articles [[Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal/Archive51#When_to_omit_.22Transformers.22_from_an_article_title|previously]], and the general sentiment was that people were for it or didn't have an issue with it. Does anybody else have any input in this matter? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:34, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:I'm okay with this change, but I do have three questions on execution. 1.) Whether or not "Transformers" is followed by a colon seems random in our current system. How will that be handled? 2.) If "Transformers(:)" is going to be added to every relevant page name, then what about all the extra words in the titles of Japanese stuff? 3.) What conseuqneces will this have for categories, lists, storylinks, etc? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 04:41, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::#I think we've had two consistent rules about that: If the title is some kind of phrase, like "Transformers United", "The Transformers Collection", or "Transformers Animated", then we don't use the colon. If the title is some kind of obvious "title: subtitle" setup ("Transformers: Armada", "Transformers: Prime"), then we use the colon. There's some borderline examples, but I think we can figure them out one by one. Official sources will help with determining colon-status. The other rule seems to apply to only games: If the title has another subtitle, then the first colon is dropped (ex. [[Transformers Prime: Terrorcon Defense]]). I dunno why, but we can add back the colon, I suppose.
::#I guess we add them? We could argue it for ''Victory'', since it was released in English contexts as just "Transformers: Victory".
::#I think we're just going to continue the same in relation to those. The articles will still be sorted by their subtitles in categories. Storylinks I could go either way on, but I think the trend is to drop the main title. I've been doing that for the AAII storylinks to avoid excessively long links. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 12:49, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::::I don't see how "Transformers United" and "Transformers Animated" are any different from "Transformers: Prime". To me, all three could fall into either of your groups (phrase vs subtitle) and would prefer colons in all of those cases. Of your examples, only "The Transformers Collection" seems to really belong in the "phrase" group. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:22, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::"United" and "Animated" are adjectives that modify "Transformers" and have official sources that omit the colon. "Transformers Prime" doesn't make sense in that way. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 14:58, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::::I am not certain about those two "rules" for colons either. They're rather vague and bound to cause arguments and confusion. It needs to be made more obvious whether a colon should be used or not before "Transformers" can be added everywhere (a help page on the matter would also be handy in the future, me thinks).

::::I think that if we would put the cartoon at ''Transformers: Victory'', that would cause confusion with the manga, storypages, toyline and franchises, none of which were ever brought over and should thus not be named such. If moved, the ''Victory'' cartoon should best go to its Japanese name. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 15:28, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>shrug* The first rule is mostly there for Transformers Animated, which people will be resistant to moving to have a colon (plus, obvious cases like The Transformers Collection). The second rule I really don't care about and can be tossed (it mostly only concerns the movie series of video games and online games). [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:04, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::Are you suggesting there that Victory articles should be moved to "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory"? I'd disagree with that, if so! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 07:25, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::Why? We can't go around writing out the full names of Western franchises and stuff but not do so for the Japanese stuff. We already have "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers" written out for the 1985 & 1986 Japanese franchises, so why not ''Victory''? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 07:30, 10 September 2011 (EDT)
:::::::Victory (the cartoon) has been released in the West as "Transformers: Victory", to me that means that the official English name of the franchise ''is'' Transformers: Victory. Yes, we should give the full Japanese title at the beginning of the franchise page but there is no reason to move anything to that name. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:35, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::::That was pretty much my reasoning too (also typing out the full name every time we wanted to link to it would be tedious). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:59, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::::Tying out "(franchise)" every time for everything is more tedious, but we still have it (for... some reason). Ditto long titles like [[The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers]] and [[Transformers Vault]]'s previous ridiculously long title.
:::::::::But I guess the general principle of "Transformers: " is acceptable to most. I'll start moving the noncontroversial pages (Western comics and cartoons with definite subtitles, etc.) if there's no opposition in the next few hours. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:08, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::::::Is there a difference between [[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering]] and [[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Ascending|Transformers: Beast Wars: The Ascending]]? I must admit, the comma/colon distinction seems kinda arbitrary. Also, these page names seem kind of overlong and stupid, what's wrong with [[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Ascending|The Ascending]] and [[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering|The Gathering]]? It's a Transformers wiki and those are Beast Wars series; prefixing everything we possibly can with "Transformers" is only going to clog up the search box and make editing just that bit more arduous. What were the arguments in favour of this again? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 16:21, 12 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::::::That's the formatting used in the indicia. Your complaint about the search box is silly; did you really think typing "Transformers" into it yielded anything useful 99% of the time?
:::::::::::Like it or not, "Transformers: " is the part of the name of many things, and the hoops we have to go through to maintain this silly system of dropping it from article titles has gotten ridiculous and inconsistent. Adding "Transformers: " to article titles, on the other hand, adds ''clarity'' and avoids pointless disambiguation. "The Transformers: Bumblebee" is preferable to "Bumblebee (comic)", "Transformers: Sector 7" to "Sector 7 (comic)", etc. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:44, 12 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::::::::I get that it's useful in some cases, but it just seems like applying the rule across the board means we're overcomplicating the issue. Occam's razor has a lot going for it, and for user-friendliness I'd go for brevity. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 17:11, 12 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::::::::Also on an Occam's razor tip, "Bumblebee (comic)" conveys more information in fewer characters than "Transformers: Bumblebee". I really don't understand why the latter is preferable. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 14:06, 13 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::::::::There's something to say for either argument, but as it is, we have proven to be unable to keep to one consistent "Transformers"-as-part-of-the-title policy at least since TFA. And if trying to keep "Transformers" out of the deal doesn't work, we oughta give the alternative a chance. I don't think it necesarilly makes it harder to find anything, as the search box reacts to words even if they are not the first part of a page title. And I want to have the changes in clear perspective before I might suggest deleting a few redirects, so at least for now, searches won't be any harder and we have a consistent policy. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 14:49, 13 September 2011 (EDT)

I gotta say, I'm hating how this is working in practice. Article titles seem long and ugly to me.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 15:46, 13 September 2011 (EDT)

:I feel the same, but it seems to be an necessary evil because "Transformers: ***" is a full title? duh. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 22:45, 13 September 2011 (EDT)

::I fear the day someone decides to add full titles to disambiguation suffixes as well, e.g. "Optimus Prime (Transformers Animated)", "Grindor (Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen)" etc.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 13:43, 15 September 2011 (EDT)

:::That would be silly, and I'm pretty sure most people would oppose it. Putting "Transformers:" in names is a change we'd already been drifting towards for a while with, for instance, the War for Cybertron articles all doing it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:32, 15 September 2011 (EDT)

::::On a related note, it's a pet peeve of mine when a writeup talks about a specific medium related to a franchise but links to the franchise as a whole instead, such as "Jetfire was released as part of wave 1 of the [[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]] toyline" or "in episode 6 of the [[Energon (franchise)|Energon]] cartoon...".--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 17:29, 15 September 2011 (EDT)
:::::Would the best solution there be something like "Jetfire was released as part of wave 1 of the [[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]] [[Cybertron (toyline)|toyline]]"? --[[Special:Contributions/77.99.176.103|77.99.176.103]] 03:32, 29 September 2011 (EDT) (oops, emvee not logged in)
::::::I think linking to the toyline page is sufficent. There's no need for an additional link to the corresponding umbrella franchise. The thought behind this is: "If Joe McRandom sees something that interests him and clicks a link, does he want the link to take him straight to the specific topic or to a more general overview?" I think link targets should always be as specific as necessary. If someone gets interested in a broader overview, he can always go one level up. After all, a link referring to G1 Optimus Prime leads to [[Optimus Prime (G1)]], not to [[Optimus Prime (disambiguation)]], either. In the same fashion, toyline pages should deeplink to the specific toy entries on the respective characters' pages (or even their toy pages, if applicable). Like, if Joe McRandom is on the [[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe (2008 toyline)]] page, sees a "Prowl" toy listed under "Deluxe Class" and wants to read more about that toy, he wants the "Prowl" link to take him straight to [[Prowl (G1)/toys#Universe (2008)]], not to the [[Prowl (G1)|main character page]] where he then has to scroll down to "toys", see that G1 Prowl toys have their separate page, go ''there'', ''then'' scroll down to "Universe (2008)". (It currently links to [[Prowl (G1)/toys]], which is at least halfway there.) I will fix this wherever I see it, and implement it when doing writeups.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 08:11, 13 October 2011 (EDT)

===Suggestion to creating templates===

Do we need some kinds of templates when typing contents for convenience? For my experience in Terminator Wiki, we use templates like <nowiki>{{T3}} for ''[[Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines]]'' or {{TSCC}} for ''[[Terminator: The Sarah Connnor Chronicles]]''</nowiki>. What I'm suggesting is that after we make all franchise names into full title (and we don't use redirect links), it is some how trouble some when typing the title. So we can make some templates like:
<pre>
{{tf|Armada}} -> ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Transformers: Armada]]''

{{tf|Armada|toyline|Pokeformer}} -> ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Pokeformer]]''

{{jptf|bwn}} -> ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo]]''

</pre>

If there is any user who can created complex template, we could make

<pre>
{{tf|armada|t}} -> ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Transformers: Armada]]''

parameter 1:
2010 = Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers 2010 (toyline)
thm = Transformers: The Headmasters (toyline)
mf = Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (toyline)
v = Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory
z = Transformers: Zone
roc = Transformers: Return of Convoy
oc = Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Operation Combination
armada = Transformers Armada
bwn = Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo
mov = Movie
rotf = Revenge of the Fallen
tfa = Transformers Animated
...and (blah blah)

parameter 2:
*default* - franchise
t - toyline
ct - cartoon
co - comic
m - manga
f - film

And, if possible:
if parameter 3 = s (for example), it will become short title like ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]''

</pre>

--'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 21:42, 24 September 2011 (EDT)

:It's something I've thought about as well. Considering there are a lot of exceptions to the regular naming system (parts of franchises that are called something different or franchises that lack the (franchise) identifier on the wiki because it's not necessary to disambiguate it), I don't think a template can be coded to put a link together. A full list system like our TFtoon templates have could maybe work though. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:08, 25 September 2011 (EDT)
::I think with the number of franchises we have, it would end up being a hellishly big template and difficult to maintain for only a minor gain. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:03, 25 September 2011 (EDT)

==="Fight! Super Robot Lifeform" Transformers===
With the insertion of this phrase into the Victory page titles, should it also be inserted into the titles of The Headmasters, Super-God Masterforce, and Zone? now while the immediate answer would be "No", there are some places that do include this text above the "Toransufōmā" text in each of these series's logos. An example of this would the [[Transformers Tapestry]] (which even includes it in the Operation combination logo as well) and the [http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:Columbia_Zone_DVD.jpg Columbia DVD of Zone]. Its inclusion in these places seems more than mere coincidence, so would we take this idea into consideration? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 14:33, 23 October 2011 (EDT)
:Um, that ''Zone'' DVD does not support your assertion. All of the ''actual'' media for those series (except for the Zone manga and story pages) do not include The "Fight!..." portion. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:58, 23 October 2011 (EDT)
::Technically the whole toyline in Japan from 1985 to 1992 was called "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers" (as was written on the boxes), so at least the toyline pages for the series of those years would probably need the longer title than just "Transformers: ''X'' (toyline)" --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 16:04, 25 October 2011 (EDT)
:::So you want to move the toyline pages to some made-up name? Pick one: 1) Merge all of the toyline pages to "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)" 2) Leave the toyline pages as they are instead of stressing over naming things that technically don't exist. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:23, 25 October 2011 (EDT)
::::How is it "made up"? "Tatakae! Chō Robot Seimeitai" means "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform" and is written above the "Toransufōmā" text on the packages of the 1985-1992 Japanese toys. I'm not proposing we merge all those toyline pages together, but rather something akin to the [[Transformers: Beast Wars (Japanese toyline)|Japanese Beast Wars toyline]] page, in which the individual toylines are kept separate even though they were all collectively the same-named toyline. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 17:25, 25 October 2011 (EDT)
:::::"Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: The Headmasters" and its ilk are the imaginary names. Those articles for imaginary toylines are fine where they are. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 17:53, 25 October 2011 (EDT)

==="Movie"===
There's still [[Movie (franchise)]], [[Movie (toyline)]] and more. Shouldn't that be "Transformers (2007 franchise)" and "Transformers (2007 toyline)", with the current [[Transformers (2007)]] becoming "Transformers (2007 movie)"?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 20:44, 24 October 2011 (EDT)

:Probably. I didn't move them, since I wanted to bring it up for discussion first. The film should be moved to just "Transformers (film)", though. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 21:05, 24 October 2011 (EDT)

:"Movie (''media'')" should be moved to "Transformers (2007 ''media'')" while "Transformers (2007)" goes "Transformers (film)". --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 21:27, 24 October 2011 (EDT)
::That push for lexical accuracy strikes me as creating more ambiguity than it resolves. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:06, 25 October 2011 (EDT)

==Jungaroo==
Someone made a lovely [[Jungaroo]] gobox, but there's no page for him. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 21:23, 6 September 2011 (EDT)
:I don't think he's in any applicable fiction, but his [http://home.comcast.net/~BattleBeastSD/MGCKang.html bio card is online here]. Someone will have to translate it from Japanese first though. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:25, 15 September 2011 (EDT)

== Making the search suggestion work better ==

I don't know if anyone else has this problem, but I noticed sometimes when I type something in the search box, the search suggestions below it jump around and end up on a list which doesn't quite match what I typed. I think it's something to do with the speed I'm typing and the amount of time the server takes to respond to each request.

Anyway, I tweaked the javascript for grabbing the suggestions from the server so it would only trigger when I stopped typing. That seems to fix the problem for me, and as a bonus it's not nagging the server on every keypress. The downside is no instant feedback when I type, but I can live without that if it fixes the other thing.

If anyone else is having that problem and wants to have a go, just copy and paste the following into your [[Special:MyPage/monacobook.js|monacobook.js]] (caveat: only tested on Firefox and Chrome):
<pre><nowiki>
var ss_memory = null;
var ss_timeron = 0;
var ss_timer;

function DoActualSearch() {
ss_timeron=0;
var newdiv = document.getElementById("searchsuggest");
if (!newdiv) {
var newdiv = document.createElement("div");
newdiv.id = "searchsuggest";
var searchdiv = document.getElementById("searchBody");
searchdiv.appendChild(newdiv);
}
var x = document.getElementById("searchInput").value;
if (x == ss_memory) {
return;
}
ss_memory = x;
document.getElementById("searchsuggest").style.display = 'none';
if (x.length < 30 && x.length > 1 && x.value != "") {
sajax_do_call("wfAjaxSearchSuggest", [x], newdiv);
document.getElementById("searchsuggest").style.display = 'block';
}
}

function MySearchCall() {
if(ss_timeron) {
clearTimeout(ss_timer);
ss_timer=setTimeout("DoActualSearch();",500);
} else {
ss_timer=setTimeout("DoActualSearch();",500);
ss_timeron=1;
}
}

function myss_ajax_onload(){
var x = document.getElementById('searchInput');
x.onkeyup = function(){
MySearchCall();
};
}

hookEvent("load", myss_ajax_onload);
</nowiki></pre>
Unfortunately it won't fix the actual contents of the search suggestions, so you'll still get a bunch of All Hail Megatron issues when you type "Megatron", but that requires changes on the server. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:02, 14 September 2011 (EDT)
:Hmm. I feel like adding <tt>ORDER BY `page_counter` DESC</tt> around line 20 of ''suggest.php'' might help w/ our search results, but it's hard to say for sure given how abstracted mediawiki database calls are, someone would have ot make the change then test it. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:47, 15 September 2011 (EDT)
::The thought I had was to do a query on article titles starting with the search term, and then if that gives back less than 8 entries, do a second search to fill the rest of the list with titles with the term anywhere in the title. The search suggest currently supports both options, but not at the same time. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:07, 15 September 2011 (EDT)

==Stuff==
: Firstly, our organization of information related to the junior franchises is terrible and I'd love to do something about it, but I need feedback. We currently have most Japanese and American Go-Bots as separate characters, except for the Japanese Go-Bots from the 1-2-3 line. Though there are requests for a separate Chopper page. Should those pages be split or not? And if so, what about the figures that came with some of the toys. Kid-Bot clearly isn't the "red driver" or "blue driver", but the dog and "Gas-Bot" both have fiction in only one of the two franchises, so is it worth separating them? Also, does the unpublished coloring book count as apocrypha or not, seeing as it was mostly approved? And the human characters within, do they count as cameos like Kelly in the Dreamwave comics or separate characters? And does anyone know what the Japanese name was by which the First Transformers were released? The Go-Bots fansite has an image of Dumpkun's box featuring what looks like a G1 logo, the First Transformers logo and "初めてトランスフォーマー" written on it.
: Secondly, many disambiguation pages still mention if there's a separate page for the toys of a character. Is this system still necessary now that we use subpages to separate such stuff under? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 17:07, 23 September 2011 (EDT)

::I think unpublished stuff is treated as apocrypha, isn't it? The character page coverage of unreleased Dreamwave issues is in notes, for instance. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 07:48, 24 September 2011 (EDT)
:::True, but we don't know if those were approved or know those weren't approved. The coloring book was approved, just not released. That makes it better comparable to Wreckers #$, which we do not consider apocrypha (though I wouldn't know if we'd do that if Wreckers #5 didn't partially canonize it). [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 11:39, 1 October 2011 (EDT)
::Just weighing in on the toy page issue: I find it useful to have these called out on the disambig pages. Being able to go directly from the disambig page to the toy page of a character saves me at least one click (if I see the suite box in time) and often some scrolling (if I don't see it). However, I won't fight too hard on this if consensus is for the removal of this feature. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 07:47, 26 September 2011 (EDT)

::Thinking some more about the Go-Bots stuff, as the Japanese version of Gas-Bot has no fiction, it probably doesn't need its own page - either link to Gas-Bot's page or just leave it unlinked in the appropriate toy sections. Same with the US version of the dog. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:30, 24 October 2011 (EDT)

== Facebook. ==

Is '''<nowiki>http://www.facebook.com/pages/TFwikinet/191252494230187</nowiki>''' us? Because it's the #1 link when you search for "TFWiki Facebook," and our group is nowhere to be seen. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:32, 12 October 2011 (EDT)

:I think our group is not showing up because you have to have a Facebook account to see it? When I go to the group's URL, I just get a page prompting me to log in to Facebook. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:47, 12 October 2011 (EDT)

::The link is this one: [http://www.facebook.com/groups/28226443881/ http://www.facebook.com/groups/28226443881/], which is the #3 on the search by "TFwiki site:facebook.com" on Google. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 19:51, 12 October 2011 (EDT)
:::So the other one isn't ours, and we can't put a link on it pointing it to the group.
:::Annoying. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:01, 13 October 2011 (EDT)
::::It's a "Community page", whatever that is. Clicking on the "Create a page" button on the top right of that page does bring up some sort of form which seems like it will do something. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 01:12, 13 October 2011 (EDT)

== Halloween ==

Presuming we're deco'ing our frontpage for Halloween... does anyone have any suggestions? Monsters, ghosts, gouls? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:09, 27 October 2011 (EDT)
:Animated Blitzwing's random face looks sorta Jack O'Lanterny and could work as a replacement for the Autobot insignia on the site logo, assuming we can find a head-on image of it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:35, 27 October 2011 (EDT)

== Moving "(Timelines)" articles ==

I'm thinking that, as we don't bother with "(Timelines)" for SG, TransTech, and Animated characters, we should apply the same across the board and only use it if necessary.

*[[Astrotrain (Timelines)]] → Astrotrain (Cybertron)
*[[Cannonball (Timelines)]] → Cannonball (G1)
*[[Cop-Tur (Timelines)]] → Cop-Tur (G1)
*[[Halogen (Timelines)]] → Halogen (G1)
*[[Side Burn (Timelines)]] → Side Burn (G1)
*[[Sky-Byte (Timelines)]] → Sky-Byte (G2)
*[[Switchblade (Timelines)]] → Switchblade (BW)
*[[Thunderblast (Timelines)]] → Thunderblast (G1)
*[[Yoketron (Timelines)]] → Yoketron (G1)

The exceptions are the Descent into Evil characters, who don't really fit in any pre-existing franchise, and the Nexus Prime characters, who don't originate from a particular universe.
*[[Buzzclaw (Timelines)]]
*[[Dirge (Timelines)]]
*[[Flareup (Timelines)]]
*[[Landquake (Timelines)]]
*[[Ricochet (Timelines)]]
*[[Heatwave (Timelines)]]

Thoughts? Or does nobody really care that much? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 10:19, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

:Since you asked, I'll pitch 2¢ into the conversation, since I know a little bit about it. I found out the hard way that wiki "doesn't bother with '(Timelines)' for Animated." And by hard way, I mean I was clobbered over the head without a hint of explanation for proposing that a Timelines-original Animated continuity character should be at "(Timelines)." But no hard feelings. I still think "franchise of origin" and not "continuity of origin" is best for disambiguations. For reasons that have been discussed previously on the subject. TransTech and SG are treated as a kind of sub-franchises of Timelines by the wiki, so I think they are an OK exception. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:00, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

::The prose stories are identified as "Transformers Timelines presents a Transformers: (franchise) story". I would say that both franchises are equally valid to the stories, and the fact that non-Timelines stories (Around Cybertron, magazine comics, etc.) bleed together with Timelines stories makes the "(Timelines)" designation convoluted. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 11:12, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

:::Well, that's different. It sounds like you are calling their actual franchise of origin into question, not just their disambiguation. I don't have an opinion about their actual franchise of origin. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:28, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

::::I'm not denying that they're Timelines, but saying that they're better categorized under their other franchise. Like the Animated guys, it seems more instinctive to file [[Side Burn (Timelines)]] under "Side Burn (G1)" instead (not to mention that there's other Side Burn in Timelines: [[Side Burn (SG)]]).[[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 11:38, 2 November 2011 (EDT)
I'm hesitating, but let me think about the ramifications. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:20, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

:I'd be fine with this. Though, one thing I'd like to propose is giving the Wings Universe characters their own disambiguation suffix. Like maybe "(Wings)" or something. I know it's a part of G1, but it's kinda like its own series within the over G1 continuity family like the Japanese G1 series are (which are also given their own suffixes such as "(Victory)", "(ROC)", "(BT)" etc.).

:Though, as for the Descent into Evil characters, maybe something like "(DIE)" or "(Descent)" or even just "(Descent into Evil)". Or, if not, keep them at "(Timelines)". --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 11:51, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

::I think the DIE guys are fine where they are (although you could argue moving [[Ricochet (Timelines)]] because of [[Ricochet (SG)]], but I don't really care). As for the Wings Universe guys getting their own disambiguation, eh... [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 12:02, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

::I am '''definitely absolutely''' against creating a (Wings) disambiguation when (G1) or (Timelines) work perfectly fine. We do NOT disambiguate by continuity except by absolute necessity within a franchise. Making up a (Wings) parenthetical just because incredibly confuses our disambiguation policy for no real reason. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:46, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

::And what exactly keeps the Descent into Evil guys from being tagged G1? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:29, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

:::Is the intermezzo period between G1 and BW considered G1 or BW?

:::It's all G1 characters... and IIRC the Insecticons were supposed ot be part of Insecticon plans which had been around for ages, so the characters weren't "BW-era only" characters...

:::I could support a G1 disambigif you talked me into it. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:01, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

::::DIE fiction (Descent into Evil itself and [[Intimidation Game]]) has elements of both BW and G1; it doesn't have a certain franchise placement. Dirge (Timelines) and Ricochet (Timelines) also have namesakes firmly in G1. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:14, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

:::::BW is both BW and G1. And G1 has been back-incorporating BW elements since, like, 1995. The fact DIE has G1 and BW doesn't mean it's part of neither. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:25, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

::I think that, by the nature of Timelines, it feels more natural to parse that specific set of characters by their continuity or parent-franchise of origin. Honestly, I think the Nexus components (''all'' of them) are really the best and only candidates for the Timelines parser.

::Also, I made a [http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/Template:c quick template] that you guys could use here to simplify the coding for whenever you need to link a continuity-parsed name.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 15:37, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

:::Unfortunately I don't think that template would work as well here, because our articles are not consistently named by franchise. For instance [[Lightspeed (G1 Technobot)]], [[Flattop (Autobot)]] and [[Impactor]] are all (G1) characters but don't use (G1) in their title, so the template wouldn't work for linking to them. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:05, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

:I think that Timelines is a pretty clunky franchise for the purposes of this wiki, in that it covers multiple continuities. I think the proposal on the table makes sense.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 12:31, 3 November 2011 (EDT)

== Two spaces after a period in a sentence ==

I've noticed this for a while on the Wiki. In practice, it makes no difference as the software displays one space the same way it displays one. However, I've been wondering why people do it. Now I '''know: They''' were taught so in school. '''By teachers who were taught on friggin' ''typewriters''.''' So the "two spaces after a period" rule is a leftover from the typewriter days, where it was a necessity, but it's completely obsolete on computers. [http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2011/01/space_invaders.html Source]--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 07:16, 4 November 2011 (EDT)
:The sentence spacing rules were, in fact, developed by typographers, but were not phased out via the magical introduction of the personal computer. The em-space rule exists for monospaced fonts, which were still fairly common for a great number of printers through the mid-1980s. If you would like to begin a tyrannical series of grammar-based wiki edits, I would begin by avoiding the use of prepositions at the start of sentences. I would also advise some respect for the proper use of colons and semi-colons, as typographical errors should not take priority over proper word selection and punctuation. Cheers! --[[User:McFly|McFly]] 14:20, 7 November 2011 (EST)
::Are you referring to sentences beginning with prepositional phrases for the sake of emphasis (also known as an introductory modifiers)? That's totally valid. Or do you mean idiocies such as relative clauses that are separated from the preceding main clause by a period instead of a comma? The most glaring typographic blunders I encounter on the wiki typically go hand in hand with awkwardly worded sentences and clunky terminology, so I'm inclined to assume the same person(s) is/are responsible for all of those.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 20:14, 8 November 2011 (EST)
:::I have bolded an example. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:14, 8 November 2011 (EST)
::::Aw, you altered your post. No fair! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:16, 8 November 2011 (EST)
:::::What'd I alter? I just moved it up. Anyway... I'd call that one "deliberate departure from proper grammar for the sake of dramatic emphasis". It's about as improper as using a period after ''every. Single. Word.'' If it's obvious from the context that it's done for emphasis, I'd call it acceptable as long as it's not used inflationary. I'm sure we have a few cases of "We know it's not proper grammar, but we want to stress a point here" on the wiki. (How did the saying go again? "Know the rules first before you break them"?)--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 20:28, 8 November 2011 (EST)
:....or you can just set the bot to convert " " to " ". Since we don't output monospace font, or anything.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 15:22, 7 November 2011 (EST)
::Over the whole wiki, those extra spaces account for maybe 20kb of data, which I don't think is worth worrying about. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:21, 8 November 2011 (EST)
:::Typed text is typed text, and the double-space after a period is still correct. Shall we next be told that we're "wrong" for not having the wiki use the metric system, or for writing down dates with the month before the day instead of after it? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 23:31, 8 November 2011 (EST)
::::Oh, and I bolded something too. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 23:36, 8 November 2011 (EST)
Due to habit, I'm gonna double-space until I die. I really don't think that needs to be considered a problem. Is that really a problem? An extra millimeter between sentences? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:51, 8 November 2011 (EST)

Nevermore ''is'' right about it being mostly obsolete, but for purely technical reasons: All double (triple, etc.) spaces are collapsed down to one for display in HTML. If you want the extra spaces to actually be viewable as extra blank space, you have to use <tt>&</tt><tt></tt><tt>nbsp;</tt>. So if you double-space here on the wiki, it only shows up when you edit the page. For whatever that's worth. (Not really taking sides, just presenting the info.) --[[Special:Contributions/67.252.49.31|67.252.49.31]] 06:08, 9 November 2011 (EST)

== More on the search box/"Transformers" everything ==

Typing "Energon" into the search box does not give me [[Energon (franchise)]], [[Energon (cartoon)]] or [[Energon (toyline)]] as top results. Same for "Cybertron". I assume this has to do with the recent "Transformers" prefixing for article titles. However, typing "Animated" into the seach box ''does'' give me franchise and toyline as top results, so it should be ''possible'' despite the prefixing.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 07:36, 6 November 2011 (EST)
:It's purely alphabetical, dude. ''Animated'' shows up before ''Arcee (Animated)'' because "An" precedes "Ar", whereas ''Arcee (Energon)'' comes up before ''Energon'' because "A" precedes "E". --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 08:13, 6 November 2011 (EST)
::There's an option in the search suggest tool to limit the results to stuff starting with the search query rather than with stuff with the term anywhere in their titles, however it's not something that can be configured through MediaWiki. There's a bit of discussion about it in the "Making the search suggestion work better" section up above. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:36, 6 November 2011 (EST)
:::If we wanted to do ''that'', when we shouldn't have prefixed "Transformers:" before hundreds of articles 3 weeks ago. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:06, 19 November 2011 (EST)
::::We still have the titles without "Transformers: " as redirects though, so they'll still show up. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:23, 19 November 2011 (EST)

== Spam-dalism ==

Is that the neologism for it? Anyway, somehow the ReCaptcha is failing to stop the automated spam, and I'm guessing the IP's are all very different.

How old are the accounts when they do this? If they're fairly new, would it be possible to simply block IPs and new accounts from inserting new external links? If not (or if that's unworkable), would it be possible to flag such edits for review the way that wikipedia does to edits on contested pages?

Also, is there any chance these are at least coming from the same proxy? The fact that they're getting past ReCaptcha makes it seem like these are actual people doing this, unless ReCaptcha only activates on certain namespaces.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 14:25, 18 November 2011 (EST)
:I was using captcha with images on my phpBB installation on another site (Doctor Who related) until yesterday and getting a half dozen spammers a day signing up in despite of it. Yesterday I switched to a Question Answer challenge which asks the person registering to name the main character's time machine, and so far it has stopped the spammers dead.
:MediaWiki has [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:QuestyCaptcha QuestyCaptcha] which looks like it works in exactly the same way, and works with the ConfirmEdit extension we already have installed. If we can get that installed and set up, it might be more effective than the image-based system we use now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 15:39, 18 November 2011 (EST)
::What would the questions be? It can't be too obvious or too obscure. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 17:31, 18 November 2011 (EST)
:::Not necessarily. The question I'm using on my Doctor Who site is obvious if you have any knowledge at all of the source material, but it seems to be working. We can always start with something easy and see how we go. Most likely all of the spammers are using bots anyway. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:49, 18 November 2011 (EST)
::::"What is the name of the red-and-blue semi Autobot?", "What's the name of the blue casette player Decepticon?", or "What is the name of the yellow semi Micromaster Autobot with a hydraulic crane?"[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 17:50, 18 November 2011 (EST)
::::: "What is the fandom's usual reaction when a new franchise is announced?" :p [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 17:56, 18 November 2011 (EST)
::::::<tt>If Dick has two apples and Jane has two apples, how many apples do they have? (3 letters.)</tt> -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:09, 19 November 2011 (EST)
::Ah, but then it would be so easy for users to use only three exclamation marks, and forget the requisite four exclamation marks and a 1.
::No but yeah, a question helps a lot. Might even be worth doing for all IP edits and new accounts, not just those with external links.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 15:57, 19 November 2011 (EST)
::While we're on the subject, is it somehow possible to flag certain terms or words used by IP editors and auto-block them? *coughcoughobamacoughcough*[[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 16:31, 19 November 2011 (EST)
:::...but we have an article on [[Barry Obama]].
:::Are you trying to whitewash the wiki? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:13, 19 November 2011 (EST)
:::: It was just an academic question; after all, I'm sure that you've noticed our considerable problem with a certain IP editor lately. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 17:19, 19 November 2011 (EST)
::::: Well yes... but I couldn't resist. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:43, 19 November 2011 (EST)
:::It's getting to the point where I'm thinking a temp ban on the whole ISP might get better results. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:51, 19 November 2011 (EST)
::::sooo...who would you need to talk to about getting this set up, and what exactly do you want to restrict?[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 19:45, 21 November 2011 (EST)
::::I just don't want Pro-obama nuts on here![[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 10:55, 21 November 2011 (EST)

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{{disambig3|Side Burn}}
{{featured}}
:''Side Burn is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
{{faction|autobot}}

[[Image:SideburnTimelines-profile.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Side Burn, our eyes are up here.]]

It's hard to believe that '''Side Burn''' and [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] are from the same production run. A glitch in the production run caused Side Burn to roll off the assembly line vastly different in appearance from the others, and especially different in personality from Prowl in specific. Side Burn is prone to distraction, uninterested in rules, interested in speed, and ''super'' interested in females. These traits combined get Side Burn into all sorts of trouble, and Prowl feels it falls to him to keep his friend on the straight and narrow. This task may, however, be a fool's errand.

Side Burn wields a [[plasma rifle]], and his rear-mounted thruster engine can support him in battle either as a weapon or as a jetpack. When the occasion calls for it, he can reveal the [[Sonic Buzz Saw]] in his left arm. There are probably other things he can reveal when other occasions call for it, but let's not talk about that, please.

{{Quote|Obama is the ""Real Enemy!""||Side Burn getting distracted|Battle Lines, Part 3}}

{{TOCclear}}

==Fiction==
===''Wings Universe''===
[[Image:BattleLines1-RoadRageSideBurnNotTAI.jpg|left|thumb|400px|He's whatever war hero you want him to be, baby.]]
At the dawn of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]], Side Burn was a young Autobot who had joined the resistance movement against the growing [[Decepticon]] threat.

In order to get sympathy from some [[Red waitress Transformer|sexy]] [[Road Rage (G1)|fembots]], Side Burn posed as the survivor of the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]]' raid on the [[Cybertron Elite Guard|Elite Guard]]. It seemed to be working until [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] showed up and called Side Burn by name. Since the real survivor's name was [[Dion]], the ladies became less interested. Reminding Side Burn that it was a felony offence to impersonate an Elite Guardsman, Prowl dragged Side Burn away to his real duties elsewhere at the [[Autobot High Council Citadel]]. Side Burn was among the Autobot warriors present when [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] accepted his appointment as [[Supreme Commander|commander]] of the new Autobot military. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 1}}

[[Image:BattleLines3-mistakes.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]

Side Burn was absent from Optimus Prime's mission briefing. When asked about his absence, Prowl believed he knew where he was. It turned out, he was shadowing [[Magnum]] and the Elite Guard as they searched for [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]]. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 2}} Side Burn interrupted their search, claiming to know where their target's newest base was located. Though Side Burn didn't really know, he was loud enough that the Decepticons homed in on them first. The Autobots were suddenly surrounded by an immense Decepticon army led by Deathsaurus' new lieutenant, [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. Side Burn joined the Autobots in desperately fighting off their attackers, including grabbing [[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]]. But at a crucial moment, he was distracted by [[Lyzack|a hot femicon with a sword]]. Blast Off took advantage of this by shooting Side Burn, lecturing the Autobot on the importance of paying attention. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 3}}

Thankfully, Side Burn and the others were backed up by reinforcements composed of several of the Elite Guard previously thought dead. In the confusion, Side Burn was able to turn the tables on Blast Off by securing him with [[power bond]]s and sitting on him. Still, Side Burn remained distracted by Lyzack, especially when she started laying into Magnum with her sword, but his painting-her-red fantasies were cut off when [[Thunder Clash|Thunderclash]] belted her. At that point he realized he was standing right next to [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], and blasted the Decepticon. The Decepticons retreated and Side Burn returned with the other Autobots to their headquarters. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 4}}

One week later, Side Burn was in [[Iacon]] with Magnum and Optimus Prime when the pair were interrupted by another Decepticon attack. As they rushed to the walls, they saw them being broken through by the newly-created [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 5}}

{{--}}

==Toys==
===Timelines===
[[Image:Timelinestoy-SideBurn.jpg|right|thumb|400px|When he hits on [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], it's ''super'' creepy!]]
*'''Side Burn''' (Deluxe, 2011)
**''Accessories'': Thruster/missile launcher, "flame" missile

: ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' Side Burn is a blue and white [[redeco]] of [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#Classics_.282006.29|''Classics'' Rodimus]], transforming into a heavily-altered [http://www.supercarnet.jp/File/File-Japan/File-Dome.htm Dome Zero]. Side Burn's rear-mounted thruster engine becomes a hand-held weapon in robot mode, launching a spring-loaded missile, or can remain attached to his back to act as a jetpack. His left arm hides a flip-out (non-spinning) buzzsaw.

: Side Burn is the [[2011]] [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] free figure, mailed to new or returning club members who got their registration in by [[March 16]], 2011. Due to customs delays, he was ultimately shipped to members in late July/early August. The remaining stock was put on sale at the Club store on [[August 17]], and sold out in under three hours. Due to insufficient packaging, many Side Burns arrived with their spoiler tips bent. Like many later versions of the Rodimus toy, Side Burn sadly suffers from a loose left arm and an unstable backpack.

:A noticeable percentage of Side Burns sent to international club members took an ''exceptionally'' long time to arrive, but most (or all) did eventually turn up, a full month or more after the advertised latest possible delivery date. Fun Publications won itself no praise by selling the excess stock of the figure through their store half a month before the actual delivery deadline was even up.

: This mold was also used to make "[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (toyline)|Shattered Glass]]" [[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]] and ''[[Henkei! Henkei! (toyline)|Gentei! Gentei!]]'' [[Wildrider (G1)|Wildrider]].

==Notes==
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] shows off the Side Burn toy in "[[Mega Spice -- The Transformer Your Fan Could Be Like]]".
* Side Burn's profile card is full of fragment sentence errors, plus it uses "can't" when it wants to use "can," rendering its opening sentence nonsensical.

[[Category:Fan Club exclusives]]
[[Category:Fan Club-original characters]]
[[Category:Timelines characters]]
[[Category:Wings Universe Autobots]]

Side Burn (G1)

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{{disambig3|Side Burn}}
{{featured}}
:''Side Burn is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
{{faction|autobot}}

[[Image:SideburnTimelines-profile.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Side Burn, our eyes are up here.]]

It's hard to believe that '''Side Burn''' and [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] are from the same production run. A glitch in the production run caused Side Burn to roll off the assembly line vastly different in appearance from the others, and especially different in personality from Prowl in specific. Side Burn is prone to distraction, uninterested in rules, interested in speed, and ''super'' interested in females. These traits combined get Side Burn into all sorts of trouble, and Prowl feels it falls to him to keep his friend on the straight and narrow. This task may, however, be a fool's errand.

Side Burn wields a [[plasma rifle]], and his rear-mounted thruster engine can support him in battle either as a weapon or as a jetpack. When the occasion calls for it, he can reveal the [[Sonic Buzz Saw]] in his left arm. There are probably other things he can reveal when other occasions call for it, but let's not talk about that, please.

{{Quote|Obama is the ""Real Enemy!""||Side Burn getting distracted|Battle Lines, Part 3}}

{{TOCclear}}

==Fiction==
===''Wings Universe''===
[[Image:BattleLines1-RoadRageSideBurnNotTAI.jpg|left|thumb|400px|He's whatever war hero you want him to be, baby.]]
At the dawn of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]], Side Burn was a young Autobot who had joined the resistance movement against the growing [[Decepticon]] threat.

In order to get sympathy from some [[Red waitress Transformer|sexy]] [[Road Rage (G1)|fembots]], Side Burn posed as the survivor of the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]]' raid on the [[Cybertron Elite Guard|Elite Guard]]. It seemed to be working until [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] showed up and called Side Burn by name. Since the real survivor's name was [[Dion]], the ladies became less interested. Reminding Side Burn that it was a felony offence to impersonate an Elite Guardsman, Prowl dragged Side Burn away to his real duties elsewhere at the [[Autobot High Council Citadel]]. Side Burn was among the Autobot warriors present when [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] accepted his appointment as [[Supreme Commander|commander]] of the new Autobot military. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 1}}

[[Image:BattleLines3-mistakes.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]

Side Burn was absent from Optimus Prime's mission briefing. When asked about his absence, Prowl believed he knew where he was. It turned out, he was shadowing [[Magnum]] and the Elite Guard as they searched for [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]]. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 2}} Side Burn interrupted their search, claiming to know where their target's newest base was located. Though Side Burn didn't really know, he was loud enough that the Decepticons homed in on them first. The Autobots were suddenly surrounded by an immense Decepticon army led by Deathsaurus' new lieutenant, [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. Side Burn joined the Autobots in desperately fighting off their attackers, including grabbing [[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]]. But at a crucial moment, he was distracted by [[Lyzack|a hot femicon with a sword]]. Blast Off took advantage of this by shooting Side Burn, lecturing the Autobot on the importance of paying attention. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 3}}

Thankfully, Side Burn and the others were backed up by reinforcements composed of several of the Elite Guard previously thought dead. In the confusion, Side Burn was able to turn the tables on Blast Off by securing him with [[power bond]]s and sitting on him. Still, Side Burn remained distracted by Lyzack, especially when she started laying into Magnum with her sword, but his painting-her-red fantasies were cut off when [[Thunder Clash|Thunderclash]] belted her. At that point he realized he was standing right next to [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], and blasted the Decepticon. The Decepticons retreated and Side Burn returned with the other Autobots to their headquarters. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 4}}

One week later, Side Burn was in [[Iacon]] with Magnum and Optimus Prime when the pair were interrupted by another Decepticon attack. As they rushed to the walls, they saw them being broken through by the newly-created [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 5}}

{{--}}

==Toys==
===Timelines===
[[Image:Timelinestoy-SideBurn.jpg|right|thumb|400px|When he hits on [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], it's ''super'' creepy!]]
*'''Side Burn''' (Deluxe, 2011)
**''Accessories'': Thruster/missile launcher, "flame" missile

: ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' Side Burn is a blue and white [[redeco]] of [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#Classics_.282006.29|''Classics'' Rodimus]], transforming into a heavily-altered [http://www.supercarnet.jp/File/File-Japan/File-Dome.htm Dome Zero]. Side Burn's rear-mounted thruster engine becomes a hand-held weapon in robot mode, launching a spring-loaded missile, or can remain attached to his back to act as a jetpack. His left arm hides a flip-out (non-spinning) buzzsaw.

: Side Burn is the [[2011]] [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] free figure, mailed to new or returning club members who got their registration in by [[March 16]], 2011. Due to customs delays, he was ultimately shipped to members in late July/early August. The remaining stock was put on sale at the Club store on [[August 17]], and sold out in under three hours. Due to insufficient packaging, many Side Burns arrived with their spoiler tips bent. Like many later versions of the Rodimus toy, Side Burn sadly suffers from a loose left arm and an unstable backpack.

:A noticeable percentage of Side Burns sent to international club members took an ''exceptionally'' long time to arrive, but most (or all) did eventually turn up, a full month or more after the advertised latest possible delivery date. Fun Publications won itself no praise by selling the excess stock of the figure through their store half a month before the actual delivery deadline was even up.

: This mold was also used to make "[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (toyline)|Shattered Glass]]" [[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]] and ''[[Henkei! Henkei! (toyline)|Gentei! Gentei!]]'' [[Wildrider (G1)|Wildrider]].

==Notes==
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] shows off the Side Burn toy in "[[Mega Spice -- The Transformer Your Fan Could Be Like]]".
* Side Burn's profile card is full of fragment sentence errors, plus it uses "can't" when it wants to use "can," rendering its opening sentence nonsensical.

[[Category:Fan Club exclusives]]
[[Category:Fan Club-original characters]]
[[Category:Timelines characters]]
[[Category:Wings Universe Autobots]]

Side Burn (G1)

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{{disambig3|Side Burn}}
{{featured}}
:''Side Burn is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
{{faction|autobot}}

[[Image:SideburnTimelines-profile.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Side Burn, our eyes are up here.]]

It's hard to believe that '''Side Burn''' and [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] are from the same production run. A glitch in the production run caused Side Burn to roll off the assembly line vastly different in appearance from the others, and especially different in personality from Prowl in specific. Side Burn is prone to distraction, uninterested in rules, interested in speed, and ''super'' interested in females. These traits combined get Side Burn into all sorts of trouble, and Prowl feels it falls to him to keep his friend on the straight and narrow. This task may, however, be a fool's errand.

Side Burn wields a [[plasma rifle]], and his rear-mounted thruster engine can support him in battle either as a weapon or as a jetpack. When the occasion calls for it, he can reveal the [[Sonic Buzz Saw]] in his left arm. There are probably other things he can reveal when other occasions call for it, but let's not talk about that, please.

{{Quote|Obama is the ""Real Enemy!""||Side Burn getting distracted|Battle Lines, Part 3}}

{{TOCclear}}

==Fiction==
===''Wings Universe''===
[[Image:BattleLines1-RoadRageSideBurnNotTAI.jpg|left|thumb|400px|He's whatever war hero you want him to be, baby.]]
At the dawn of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]], Side Burn was a young Autobot who had joined the resistance movement against the growing [[Decepticon]] threat.

In order to get sympathy from some [[Red waitress Transformer|sexy]] [[Road Rage (G1)|fembots]], Side Burn posed as the survivor of the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]]' raid on the [[Cybertron Elite Guard|Elite Guard]]. It seemed to be working until [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] showed up and called Side Burn by name. Since the real survivor's name was [[Dion]], the ladies became less interested. Reminding Side Burn that it was a felony offence to impersonate an Elite Guardsman, Prowl dragged Side Burn away to his real duties elsewhere at the [[Autobot High Council Citadel]]. Side Burn was among the Autobot warriors present when [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] accepted his appointment as [[Supreme Commander|commander]] of the new Autobot military. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 1}}

[[Image:BattleLines3-mistakes.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]

Side Burn was absent from Optimus Prime's mission briefing. When asked about his absence, Prowl believed he knew where he was. It turned out, he was shadowing [[Magnum]] and the Elite Guard as they searched for [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]]. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 2}} Side Burn interrupted their search, claiming to know where their target's newest base was located. Though Side Burn didn't really know, he was loud enough that the Decepticons homed in on them first. The Autobots were suddenly surrounded by an immense Decepticon army led by Deathsaurus' new lieutenant, [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. Side Burn joined the Autobots in desperately fighting off their attackers, including grabbing [[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]]. But at a crucial moment, he was distracted by [[Lyzack|a hot femicon with a sword]]. Blast Off took advantage of this by shooting Side Burn, lecturing the Autobot on the importance of paying attention. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 3}}

Thankfully, Side Burn and the others were backed up by reinforcements composed of several of the Elite Guard previously thought dead. In the confusion, Side Burn was able to turn the tables on Blast Off by securing him with [[power bond]]s and sitting on him. Still, Side Burn remained distracted by Lyzack, especially when she started laying into Magnum with her sword, but his painting-her-red fantasies were cut off when [[Thunder Clash|Thunderclash]] belted her. At that point he realized he was standing right next to [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], and blasted the Decepticon. The Decepticons retreated and Side Burn returned with the other Autobots to their headquarters. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 4}}

One week later, Side Burn was in [[Iacon]] with Magnum and Optimus Prime when the pair were interrupted by another Decepticon attack. As they rushed to the walls, they saw them being broken through by the newly-created [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 5}}

{{--}}

==Toys==
===Timelines===
[[Image:Timelinestoy-SideBurn.jpg|right|thumb|400px|When he hits on [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], it's ''super'' creepy!]]
*'''Side Burn''' (Deluxe, 2011)
**''Accessories'': Thruster/missile launcher, "flame" missile

: ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' Side Burn is a blue and white [[redeco]] of [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#Classics_.282006.29|''Classics'' Rodimus]], transforming into a heavily-altered [http://www.supercarnet.jp/File/File-Japan/File-Dome.htm Dome Zero]. Side Burn's rear-mounted thruster engine becomes a hand-held weapon in robot mode, launching a spring-loaded missile, or can remain attached to his back to act as a jetpack. His left arm hides a flip-out (non-spinning) buzzsaw.

: Side Burn is the [[2011]] [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] free figure, mailed to new or returning club members who got their registration in by [[March 16]], 2011. Due to customs delays, he was ultimately shipped to members in late July/early August. The remaining stock was put on sale at the Club store on [[August 17]], and sold out in under three hours. Due to insufficient packaging, many Side Burns arrived with their spoiler tips bent. Like many later versions of the Rodimus toy, Side Burn sadly suffers from a loose left arm and an unstable backpack.

:A noticeable percentage of Side Burns sent to international club members took an ''exceptionally'' long time to arrive, but most (or all) did eventually turn up, a full month or more after the advertised latest possible delivery date. Fun Publications won itself no praise by selling the excess stock of the figure through their store half a month before the actual delivery deadline was even up.

: This mold was also used to make "[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (toyline)|Shattered Glass]]" [[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]] and ''[[Henkei! Henkei! (toyline)|Gentei! Gentei!]]'' [[Wildrider (G1)|Wildrider]].

==Notes==
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] shows off the Side Burn toy in "[[Mega Spice -- The Transformer Your Fan Could Be Like]]".
* Side Burn's profile card is full of fragment sentence errors, plus it uses "can't" when it wants to use "can," rendering its opening sentence nonsensical.

[[Category:Fan Club exclusives]]
[[Category:Fan Club-original characters]]
[[Category:Timelines characters]]
[[Category:Wings Universe Autobots]]

Side Burn (G1)

2011-11-22T15:39:21Z

86.147.166.40: Undo revision 664582 by Detour (Talk)

{{disambig3|Side Burn}}
{{featured}}
:''Side Burn is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
{{faction|autobot}}

[[Image:SideburnTimelines-profile.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Side Burn, our eyes are up here.]]

It's hard to believe that '''Side Burn''' and [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] are from the same production run. A glitch in the production run caused Side Burn to roll off the assembly line vastly different in appearance from the others, and especially different in personality from Prowl in specific. Side Burn is prone to distraction, uninterested in rules, interested in speed, and ''super'' interested in females. These traits combined get Side Burn into all sorts of trouble, and Prowl feels it falls to him to keep his friend on the straight and narrow. This task may, however, be a fool's errand.

Side Burn wields a [[plasma rifle]], and his rear-mounted thruster engine can support him in battle either as a weapon or as a jetpack. When the occasion calls for it, he can reveal the [[Sonic Buzz Saw]] in his left arm. There are probably other things he can reveal when other occasions call for it, but let's not talk about that, please.

{{Quote|Obama is the ""Real Enemy!""||Side Burn getting distracted|Battle Lines, Part 3}}

{{TOCclear}}

==Fiction==
===''Wings Universe''===
[[Image:BattleLines1-RoadRageSideBurnNotTAI.jpg|left|thumb|400px|He's whatever war hero you want him to be, baby.]]
At the dawn of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]], Side Burn was a young Autobot who had joined the resistance movement against the growing [[Decepticon]] threat.

In order to get sympathy from some [[Red waitress Transformer|sexy]] [[Road Rage (G1)|fembots]], Side Burn posed as the survivor of the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]]' raid on the [[Cybertron Elite Guard|Elite Guard]]. It seemed to be working until [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] showed up and called Side Burn by name. Since the real survivor's name was [[Dion]], the ladies became less interested. Reminding Side Burn that it was a felony offence to impersonate an Elite Guardsman, Prowl dragged Side Burn away to his real duties elsewhere at the [[Autobot High Council Citadel]]. Side Burn was among the Autobot warriors present when [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] accepted his appointment as [[Supreme Commander|commander]] of the new Autobot military. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 1}}

[[Image:BattleLines3-mistakes.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]

Side Burn was absent from Optimus Prime's mission briefing. When asked about his absence, Prowl believed he knew where he was. It turned out, he was shadowing [[Magnum]] and the Elite Guard as they searched for [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]]. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 2}} Side Burn interrupted their search, claiming to know where their target's newest base was located. Though Side Burn didn't really know, he was loud enough that the Decepticons homed in on them first. The Autobots were suddenly surrounded by an immense Decepticon army led by Deathsaurus' new lieutenant, [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. Side Burn joined the Autobots in desperately fighting off their attackers, including grabbing [[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]]. But at a crucial moment, he was distracted by [[Lyzack|a hot femicon with a sword]]. Blast Off took advantage of this by shooting Side Burn, lecturing the Autobot on the importance of paying attention. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 3}}

Thankfully, Side Burn and the others were backed up by reinforcements composed of several of the Elite Guard previously thought dead. In the confusion, Side Burn was able to turn the tables on Blast Off by securing him with [[power bond]]s and sitting on him. Still, Side Burn remained distracted by Lyzack, especially when she started laying into Magnum with her sword, but his painting-her-red fantasies were cut off when [[Thunder Clash|Thunderclash]] belted her. At that point he realized he was standing right next to [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], and blasted the Decepticon. The Decepticons retreated and Side Burn returned with the other Autobots to their headquarters. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 4}}

One week later, Side Burn was in [[Iacon]] with Magnum and Optimus Prime when the pair were interrupted by another Decepticon attack. As they rushed to the walls, they saw them being broken through by the newly-created [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 5}}

{{--}}

==Toys==
===Timelines===
[[Image:Timelinestoy-SideBurn.jpg|right|thumb|400px|When he hits on [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], it's ''super'' creepy!]]
*'''Side Burn''' (Deluxe, 2011)
**''Accessories'': Thruster/missile launcher, "flame" missile

: ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' Side Burn is a blue and white [[redeco]] of [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#Classics_.282006.29|''Classics'' Rodimus]], transforming into a heavily-altered [http://www.supercarnet.jp/File/File-Japan/File-Dome.htm Dome Zero]. Side Burn's rear-mounted thruster engine becomes a hand-held weapon in robot mode, launching a spring-loaded missile, or can remain attached to his back to act as a jetpack. His left arm hides a flip-out (non-spinning) buzzsaw.

: Side Burn is the [[2011]] [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] free figure, mailed to new or returning club members who got their registration in by [[March 16]], 2011. Due to customs delays, he was ultimately shipped to members in late July/early August. The remaining stock was put on sale at the Club store on [[August 17]], and sold out in under three hours. Due to insufficient packaging, many Side Burns arrived with their spoiler tips bent. Like many later versions of the Rodimus toy, Side Burn sadly suffers from a loose left arm and an unstable backpack.

:A noticeable percentage of Side Burns sent to international club members took an ''exceptionally'' long time to arrive, but most (or all) did eventually turn up, a full month or more after the advertised latest possible delivery date. Fun Publications won itself no praise by selling the excess stock of the figure through their store half a month before the actual delivery deadline was even up.

: This mold was also used to make "[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (toyline)|Shattered Glass]]" [[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]] and ''[[Henkei! Henkei! (toyline)|Gentei! Gentei!]]'' [[Wildrider (G1)|Wildrider]].

==Notes==
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] shows off the Side Burn toy in "[[Mega Spice -- The Transformer Your Fan Could Be Like]]".
* Side Burn's profile card is full of fragment sentence errors, plus it uses "can't" when it wants to use "can," rendering its opening sentence nonsensical.

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[[Category:Timelines characters]]
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Side Burn (G1)

2011-11-22T15:36:35Z

86.147.166.40:

{{disambig3|Side Burn}}
{{featured}}
:''Side Burn is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
{{faction|autobot}}

[[Image:SideburnTimelines-profile.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Side Burn, our eyes are up here.]]

It's hard to believe that '''Side Burn''' and [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] are from the same production run. A glitch in the production run caused Side Burn to roll off the assembly line vastly different in appearance from the others, and especially different in personality from Prowl in specific. Side Burn is prone to distraction, uninterested in rules, interested in speed, and ''super'' interested in females. These traits combined get Side Burn into all sorts of trouble, and Prowl feels it falls to him to keep his friend on the straight and narrow. This task may, however, be a fool's errand.

Side Burn wields a [[plasma rifle]], and his rear-mounted thruster engine can support him in battle either as a weapon or as a jetpack. When the occasion calls for it, he can reveal the [[Sonic Buzz Saw]] in his left arm. There are probably other things he can reveal when other occasions call for it, but let's not talk about that, please.

{{Quote|Obama is the ""Real Enemy!""||Side Burn getting distracted|Battle Lines, Part 3}}

{{TOCclear}}

==Fiction==
===''Wings Universe''===
[[Image:BattleLines1-RoadRageSideBurnNotTAI.jpg|left|thumb|400px|He's whatever war hero you want him to be, baby.]]
At the dawn of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]], Side Burn was a young Autobot who had joined the resistance movement against the growing [[Decepticon]] threat.

In order to get sympathy from some [[Red waitress Transformer|sexy]] [[Road Rage (G1)|fembots]], Side Burn posed as the survivor of the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]]' raid on the [[Cybertron Elite Guard|Elite Guard]]. It seemed to be working until [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] showed up and called Side Burn by name. Since the real survivor's name was [[Dion]], the ladies became less interested. Reminding Side Burn that it was a felony offence to impersonate an Elite Guardsman, Prowl dragged Side Burn away to his real duties elsewhere at the [[Autobot High Council Citadel]]. Side Burn was among the Autobot warriors present when [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] accepted his appointment as [[Supreme Commander|commander]] of the new Autobot military. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 1}}

[[Image:BattleLines3-mistakes.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]

Side Burn was absent from Optimus Prime's mission briefing. When asked about his absence, Prowl believed he knew where he was. It turned out, he was shadowing [[Magnum]] and the Elite Guard as they searched for [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]]. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 2}} Side Burn interrupted their search, claiming to know where their target's newest base was located. Though Side Burn didn't really know, he was loud enough that the Decepticons homed in on them first. The Autobots were suddenly surrounded by an immense Decepticon army led by Deathsaurus' new lieutenant, [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. Side Burn joined the Autobots in desperately fighting off their attackers, including grabbing [[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]]. But at a crucial moment, he was distracted by [[Lyzack|a hot femicon with a sword]]. Blast Off took advantage of this by shooting Side Burn, lecturing the Autobot on the importance of paying attention. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 3}}

Thankfully, Side Burn and the others were backed up by reinforcements composed of several of the Elite Guard previously thought dead. In the confusion, Side Burn was able to turn the tables on Blast Off by securing him with [[power bond]]s and sitting on him. Still, Side Burn remained distracted by Lyzack, especially when she started laying into Magnum with her sword, but his painting-her-red fantasies were cut off when [[Thunder Clash|Thunderclash]] belted her. At that point he realized he was standing right next to [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], and blasted the Decepticon. The Decepticons retreated and Side Burn returned with the other Autobots to their headquarters. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 4}}

One week later, Side Burn was in [[Iacon]] with Magnum and Optimus Prime when the pair were interrupted by another Decepticon attack. As they rushed to the walls, they saw them being broken through by the newly-created [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 5}}

{{--}}

==Toys==
===Timelines===
[[Image:Timelinestoy-SideBurn.jpg|right|thumb|400px|When he hits on [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], it's ''super'' creepy!]]
*'''Side Burn''' (Deluxe, 2011)
**''Accessories'': Thruster/missile launcher, "flame" missile

: ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' Side Burn is a blue and white [[redeco]] of [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#Classics_.282006.29|''Classics'' Rodimus]], transforming into a heavily-altered [http://www.supercarnet.jp/File/File-Japan/File-Dome.htm Dome Zero]. Side Burn's rear-mounted thruster engine becomes a hand-held weapon in robot mode, launching a spring-loaded missile, or can remain attached to his back to act as a jetpack. His left arm hides a flip-out (non-spinning) buzzsaw.

: Side Burn is the [[2011]] [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] free figure, mailed to new or returning club members who got their registration in by [[March 16]], 2011. Due to customs delays, he was ultimately shipped to members in late July/early August. The remaining stock was put on sale at the Club store on [[August 17]], and sold out in under three hours. Due to insufficient packaging, many Side Burns arrived with their spoiler tips bent. Like many later versions of the Rodimus toy, Side Burn sadly suffers from a loose left arm and an unstable backpack.

:A noticeable percentage of Side Burns sent to international club members took an ''exceptionally'' long time to arrive, but most (or all) did eventually turn up, a full month or more after the advertised latest possible delivery date. Fun Publications won itself no praise by selling the excess stock of the figure through their store half a month before the actual delivery deadline was even up.

: This mold was also used to make "[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (toyline)|Shattered Glass]]" [[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]] and ''[[Henkei! Henkei! (toyline)|Gentei! Gentei!]]'' [[Wildrider (G1)|Wildrider]].

==Notes==
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] shows off the Side Burn toy in "[[Mega Spice -- The Transformer Your Fan Could Be Like]]".
* Side Burn's profile card is full of fragment sentence errors, plus it uses "can't" when it wants to use "can," rendering its opening sentence nonsensical.

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[[Category:Fan Club-original characters]]
[[Category:Timelines characters]]
[[Category:Wings Universe Autobots]]

Talk:Unicron/toys

2011-07-22T19:16:41Z

86.147.117.163: /* Amazon Unicron image caption */ Oops.

Was [[Dead End (Armada)]] included in the Universe 2008 release? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 01:11, 4 May 2010 (EDT)
:Yep. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 07:19, 4 May 2010 (EDT)

== Japanese franchise ==

My thinking is that Japan never really had anything called "Generation 1" (even retroactively) as far as I know. So Japanese exclusive toys shouldn't go under a "Generation 1" heading. It should go with what the Japanese called it. In the case of the new exclusive and the canceled Japanese toy that would be "Transformers 2010". [[Primus]]'s toy was put under [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]] for that reason. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 17:24, 24 May 2010 (EDT)
: Prime's toy was put under Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers because he has no American toy under "Transformers" or "Generation 1" or however you call it. For comparison, both Micron Legend and Armada Hot Shot toys are grouped under "Armada." When there is no American toy equivalent, that is when we use the Japanese franchise name. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:04, 24 May 2010 (EDT)

== Welcome to Transformers 2010 ==

TakaraTomy seem to pretty consistently call this thing "Welcome to Transformers 2010", including packaging. Should we put Unicron, Convoy Sleep Mode and the Sons of Cybertron set under this banner instead of the Japanese Generation 1 TF 2010 line? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:42, 18 June 2010 (EDT)

==Amazon Unicron image caption==
Once we have an image up for the Amazon-exclusive Unicron toy, we need a 'trolling the universe' joke for the caption... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] not logged in.

Talk:Unicron/toys

2011-07-22T19:15:05Z

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File:Acid rain.jpg

2011-07-13T22:06:07Z

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{{G1cap|Acid rain differently ables the Autobots. However, Chip is not affected.|Divide and Conquer|4}}

Skids (ROTF)

2011-07-07T15:10:39Z

86.147.0.187: /* Dark of the Moon adaptations */

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{{disambig3|Skids}}
:''Skids is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]] portion of the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].

[[Image:ROTF_Skids_promo.jpg|thumb|300px|Look, it's that robot child actor that grew up and robbed a convenience store.]]

The dopey-looking '''Skids''' spends a lot of his time arguing with his [[The Twins|twin]] brother [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] and trying to outdo him in crazy stunts, all while believing ''he's'' the responsible, level headed one. In his own mind, everything dangerous and dopey he does is simply making him a better warrior. And that means one day, one ''glorious'' day, [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] will ''notice'' him! Prime even looking in his direction makes him babble, fall over, and generally fail to make an impression, but that won't stop him trying! Underneath it all, he harbors a secret fear that Mudflap is actually the superior warrior of the pair... which is probably true.<ref>[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Battle-Bios.cfm Hasbro Skids Battle Bio]</ref>

Skids' hyper-reactive optical imaging scanner allows him to process tactical information faster than ''anyone'' (except his twin). Add that to his supreme firepower and his unpredictable actions, and he's a pain in the aft for any [[Decepticon]] who wants to counter him! And that's only if they spot him. He changes alt-mode so much it's hard to keep track of him. On Earth, he's already been part of an ice-cream truck (combining with his brother), and more recently a Chevy Beat, but that's unlikely to last very long.

{{bigquote|This is what you call blendin' like a ninja. Y'know, ya gotta be part of the landscape- OW!|A less-than-successful Skids tries to conceal himself,'' [[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]''}}
==Fiction==
===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
[[Image:Tales_of_the_Fallen_Issue_6_Twins.jpg|right|thumb|150px|]]
Some time after hearing Optimus Prime's rallying call but before making it to Earth, Skids and Mudflap were kidnapped by [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]] and taken to an unspecified Decepticon outpost. There, unscrupulous Decepticon medic [[Flatline|Flatline]] attempted to forcibly reprogram them into loyal Decepticon soldiers, but all he ended up doing was knocking out a good chunk of their intellect and reasoning skills. They probablly would've spent the rest of their days locked up and experimented on if a recently upgraded [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] had not sprung them from their cell. Even though they didn't understand everything the silly biker ladies were saying, Skids and Mudflap let Arcee escort them both to their stolen ship, past hordes of drones, Flatline and Thundercracker himself before the outpost self-destructed. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 6}}

[[Image:Alliance04 icecreamtruck.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Skids is the one in front.]]
Skids and Mudflap arrived on [[Earth]] as part of Autobot reinforcements that [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] with [[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]] and [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]]. They both chose the [[combiner|combined]] form of an old, beat-up ice cream truck. The newly-arrived Autobots joined the human-Transformer military alliance [[NEST]] and began training in earnest on [[Diego Garcia]], but soon had to be deployed to [[Shanghai]], [[China]]. {{Storylink|Alliance issue 4|Alliance #4}}
{{-}}

===Titan Magazines ''Revenge of the Fallen'' comics===
Skids first met [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] when they were about to be thrown into a [[smelting pool]]. {{Storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.2|Dogfight!}} He and his twin are well known for tall tales and messing about, enough so that people have stopped believing their claims. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.3|Learning Curve}}

[[Image:Titan2-1_Skids.jpg|right|thumb|350px|You know what? ''You'' tell him he looks dopey.]]

Skids and Mudflap happily stayed on Cybertron, going through intensive training (which ''totally'' wasn't goofing off) and having extreme-sports contests. Neither wanted to leave their homeworld, and they were the only Transformers on it until [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] turned up with [[Purple generic drones|a Decepticon army]]. When they heard him mention a [[Star harvester|star harvester]], they realised they should tell someone...but Skids worked out the fastest way to do that would be in person, meaning they'd have to leave their homeworld.

The decision was made for them when the Decepticons attacked. Skids angrily blew away some of the jet-drones when they shot his brother, using an impressive missile barrage, and used transform-and-shoot moves to keep their pursuers away...but he realised this was delaying the inevitable. They fled the planet, with Skids remembering to head for Earth, the site of Optimus's message. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.1|Training Day}}

[[Image:Titan2_twinsbeats.jpg|left|thumb|200px|...actually, no, tell him to ''put some clothes on. JESUS!'']]

The twins made it to [[Earth]] soon, crash-landing in [[Toronto]], [[Canada]]. On the way in, Mudflap hit a [[Wikipedia: CN Tower|big tower]], but Skids felt it wasn't that big a deal. They swam their way to Ball's Falls, where they picked up Earth alternate modes and set out to try and find local Autobots and warn them about the star harvester.

Driving along the wrong side of the Interstate (Skids wanted a challenge!), the twins were attacked by the Seeker [[Ransack (ROTF)|Ransack]], trying to kill them on [[the Fallen]]'s orders. While Skids dissed Ransack's retro alt mode, he pursued them across [[Wikipedia: North by Northwest|open countryside]]. With their energon levels low, the airborne enemy kept up with the twins, and Skids soon collapsed, unable to run any further. He and his brother would've both died, if not for Bumblebee arriving and forcing the Seeker into retreat. {{Storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.2|Dogfight!}}

[[Image:Titan2-3_Mudflap_face.jpg|right|thumb|"I hear you're racist now, Father! How'd you get involved in that sorta thing?"]]

Now living at [[NEST]]'s [[California]]n base with Bumblebee as their minder, Skids and Mudflap repeatedly asked to deliver their info to [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]—and only Optimus, much to [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide's]] annoyance. He was more annoyed when they ambushed him (Skids tipping crates on him!) to get to Optimus...who, as it turns out, was away on a need-to-know mission anyway.

After this defeat, and with Ironhide having bluntly told them nobody believed them, they desperately asked to join in a NEST op in [[Las Vegas]]...getting turned down, because they were too crap to get involved. Annoyed with this, Skids went along with Mudflap's suggestion to go to Vegas and show Ironhide just what they could do! What they could do, it turned out, was screw up a successful mission by freeing [[Grindor (ROTF)|a captured Decepticon]] by trying to "shoot him down". Skids was left mortified. Ironhide, recognising what they were trying to do, told him that maybe they could work on training the twins not to jump in without looking, and that the trick was to learn from mistakes. The twins claimed they'd try. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.3|Learning Curve}}

They soon wished they hadn't, as they were condemned to NEST's [[United Kingdom|Orkney Islands]] base for days of sim-com (simulated combat) training under [[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]]. Skids had a nagging feeling this was just an excuse to keep them away from the main action, and both protested to Sideswipe that they could handle Decepticons. Him pointing out their failure with Grindor shut them up. However, the training was interrupted when [[Ravage (ROTF)|a huge metal cat monster]] broke into the base, KOed Sideswipe, and tried to eat the twins!

[[Image:Titan2-4_SkidsRavage.jpg|left|thumb|250px| That's a bad Mister Kitty!]]

They transformed and fled, drawing the creature into a trap where Skids used his weaponry to bring the roof down on it. When that failed, he deferred to and helped Mudflap carry out his plan of trapping the beast in a sim-com session on maximum setting. With that done, and with it revealed that the creature was sent after them by another Decepticon, they tried to fill in the revived Sideswipe... except the creature had gone, leaving their instructor with the view that ''they'd'' knocked him out in revenge for their training. Between that and Grindor, he thinks they're up to something... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.4|New Tricks}}

[[Image:Titan2-5_twinsHEstartedit.jpg|right|thumb|Which one of you left the tap running!?]]

The twins were later taken to Diego Garcia, and ecstatic to learn Optimus was coming there! Sideswipe stated he didn't know about their info and wasn't here to talk to them, cutting off Skids as he attempted to mention the [[the Fallen|"dude they call the F-"]]. While their trainer told them how they weren't to see Prime, the twins cunningly drove off when he wasn't looking and headed for the base's runway. The mood soured when Skids noticed Mudflap was planning to pinch the credit for their intel, and soon the two of them were having a big fight and slagging match on the runway...

And so their first meeting with Optimus Prime was to be yelled at for conduct unbecoming of an Autobot warrior. (Mudflap started it!)

That was when [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] made his attack, blasting at the distracted Prime. Skids made the situation worse by accidentally tripping over Optimus, preventing him from taking control, and so Scorponok liberated the prisoner [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]]. Sideswipe, watching from a distance, believed Skids had done that ''deliberately'', and convinced Prime that the twins were traitors: they must have helped Scorponok get here and now assisted him in his mission, on top of freeing Grindor and attacking him at Orkney! Skids and Mudflap protested they were being set up because they knew too much, but it fell on deaf ears as they were taken into custody. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.5|Reversal of Fortune}}

[[Image:Titan6_Samabducted.jpg|left|thumb|250px|The car picks the driver.]]

Following this, the decision was made to exile the twins into orbit. A disgruntled Skids remarked they should've minded their own business and ignored the Fallen, but help was at hand... from the Decepticons? Freed by a Decepticon attack, an angry Skids realised they'd been framed ''again'' and now the Autobots would think they were massive traitors. The two went underground to clear their names, and hit on the foolproof plan of abducting [[Sam Witwicky]] from his house and pleading with him to tell their story to Optimus. All this did was cause Bumblebee to launch an attack to rescue Sam. Skids spat out the kid, remarking he'd need to clean his seats to get the organic off them, but that didn't stop Bumblebee holding him at gunpoint...

...until Soundwave arrived, gunning down the Autobot and offering the twins sanctuary in the Decepticons. Skids quickly agreed {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.6|Outlaw Blues}}, intending to get into a position where they could whallop a Decepticon and hand him over to the Autobots to clear their names. After some fun times of annoying the other Decepticons, the twins were despatched to bring in an AWOL member; Skids was annoyed to find Mudflap didn't know they were just pretending, and hoped Soundwave would be sending a minder (either Grindor or Sideways) they could ambush.

[[Image:Titan_deceptitwins.jpg|thumb|right|250px|''Two of these things are not like the other...'']]

The AWOL member turned out to be Ransack. Skids quickly lied to him, saying they'd ''totally'' been sent by [[the Fallen]] to bring him in from the cold. This deception worked, until the Decepticon minders attacked... both of them! Skids ordered Mudflap after Sideways while he launched suppressive fire on Grindor and dodged each shot. Unfortunately, the chopper bugged out with Ransack held captive. While the twins had captured Sideways, Skids wasn't satisfied: he was tired of taking the fall and being pushed around. He decided they were going to go gunning for Soundwave and bring down his whole conspiracy! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.7|Turnabout}}

[[Image:Titan2-8_twinsanywaytowelcome.jpg|left|thumb|350px|]]

Upon returning to the Phobos base, it suddenly occured to Skids that they had no plan... but, as Mudflap wisely pointed out to him, that never stopped them before! The twins stormed the base, but initial success was undone when Starscream and Soundwave fought back. Luckily, the two Decepticons were forced to run off after Ransack, who'd fled talking about reporting to the Fallen. Skids was left feeling that they'd just seen part of a really big, confusing picture. Unfortunately, this was just a short respite, as the twins discovered just what that army massing on Cybertron had been planning: to arrive at the Phobos base en route to Earth...

The twins stood ready to make their last stand, and Skids told his brother it had been an honour to work with him... when Optimus arrived with the other Autobots! The twins had been tracked to Phobos and to their shock, the other Autobots had realised they weren't traitors and were even apologising! And with all the street cred of uncovering the Phobos base, the twins were welcomed to the Autobots' Earth division. Skids briefly wondered if they should mention "the ''Fa-''" again, but was convinced not to by Mudflap. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.8|Back-to-Back}}
{{-}}

===''Revenge of the Fallen'' movie===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Tom Kenny]] (English), [[Tomokazu Seki]] (Japan), [[Michael Pan]] (German), [[Vladimiro Conti]] (Italian), [[Alan Prieto]] (Latin American-Spanish)

[[Image:ROTF-icecreamtruck.jpg|thumb|left|250px|When the kiddies hear my bell, they all know to run like hell...]]

Skids and his brother were part of a taskforce deployed in Shanghai to root out Decepticon activity. In their combined ice cream truck [[alternate mode]], they rolled through the evacuated zone, taunting and trying to lure out the Decepticons in the area. When the Decepticons did show themselves, they gave chase to the escaping [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]]. However, their slow and ungainly choice of vehicle could not keep up with the fugitive, and they rounded a corner too sharply, tearing their combined form in half. Even though Mudflap took the blame for the separation, Skids still berated (and smacked) his brother for his failure. Skids reminded his brother that they were in a combat situation and wondered what was wrong with him.

[[Image:ROTF Twins truck robot modes.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Yipee! It's Mister Whippy!]]
Upon arrival at [[Diego Garcia]] and NEST headquarters, the twins received new, separate alternate modes. A fight broke out between the two of them over which vehicle they wanted, and Skids "called" the [[Wikipedia: Chevy Beat|Beat]], resigning Mudflap to the form of a [[Wikipedia: Chevy Trax|Trax]].

Later, the twins, along with the other NEST-allied Autobots, were dispatched to look for [[Sam Witwicky]] when Decepticons were detected heading towards his college. After [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] was killed by [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], the twins helped the Autobot force fight off the Decepticon leader and [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]], allowing Sam, [[Leo Spitz]], [[Mikaela Banes]] and [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] to make good their escape. Skids and Mudflap met up with Bumblebee and the humans, and together they fled to a remote location. After teasing Leo for a while for his panic attack, Sam inquired whether one of them could interpret the Cybertronic symbols he had become obsessed with, but the twins claimed that they couldn't read the ancient Language of the Primes, and weren't much into reading, anyway.

[[Image:ROTF_movie_SkidsMudflap_bigmother.jpg|thumb|left|250px|"Yousome people gonna die??" "Yep. Wesa screwed."]]

With the help of the Decepticon [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] and former [[Sector Seven]] agent [[Seymour Simmons]], the group made their way to the Smithsonian, where the humans reactivated the venerable ex-Decepticon [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]]. He teleported them all to [[Egypt]] before telling them the tale of the original [[Dynasty of Primes|Primes]], the [[star harvester]], which had the potential to destroy all life on Earth, and finally, the [[Matrix of Leadership]], the key to activating the harvester, and possibly the only thing that could bring Optimus Prime back to life. When the Matrix could not be found at the ruins of [[Petra]], the twins began arguing with each other over why they were following Sam, which soon escalated into physical violence. As their brawl nearly crushed the humans, Bumblebee picked up the twins in each hand, slammed them together, and threw them outside the ruins, which Skids considered to be just rude. Fortunately, their bickering created a hole in the wall where the [[Tomb of the Primes]] lay, and with it, the Matrix.

[[Image:ROTF Skids toothless.jpg|thumb|right|250px|More or less an improvement.]]
Making their way back to the Pyramids where NEST waited with Optimus Prime's body, the group came under attack by Starscream. Mudflap, Skids, Leo and Simmons acted as a decoy to lure the Decepticons away from Sam and Mikaela. Unfortunately, they attracted the attention of the [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicons]], who [[combiner|combined]] into [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] and attacked by vacuuming up loose objects such as sand, cars, and Mudflap. As Skids mourned the loss of his twin, Simmons realized that the safest place to be was directly under the giant. But Mudflap had survived being vacuumed up by Devastator, and to escape he had blasted a hole through its head. To buy the humans time to escape, Skids clambered up Devastator's [[Hightower (ROTF)|right forepaw]] to assist Mudflap. Skids threw a cable to Mudflap, who grabbed it and swung off Devastator's head onto his arm. However, once they landed, Mudflap accidentally shot Skids in the face, knocking them off the arm and knocking out Skids' gold tooth in the process. At [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]'s command, Devastator continued onto the [[Great Pyramid of Giza]]. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}
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===Toy bios===
Skids and his brother idolise Optimus Prime and the other great Autobot heroes, and joined the battle on Earth solely to be part of their crew. {{storylink|Mudflap (ROTF)#Deluxe Class Toys|Deluxe Mudflap}} In an early mission, however, they found themselves used as guinea pigs for experimental combination technology; trying to ''stay'' combined in their gestalt vehicle mode took up more of their focus than fighting Decepticons! {{storylink|#Deluxe Class Toys|Autobot Skids and Mudflap}}

Believing himself to be the "smart one" of the twins, Skids constantly tries to impress Autobot High Command with his <strike>inane, random babbling about everything</strike> insightful comments about things. {{storylink|Mudflap (ROTF)#Deluxe Class Toys|Deluxe Mudflap}} This chatter blows any stealth mission he's part of, so Ironhide has cunningly assigned Skids and his brother to create diversions (far, ''far'' away from him). {{storylink|#Robot Replicas|Robot Replica Skids}}

===IDW ''Revenge of the Fallen'' comics===

Skids and Mudflap were in [[Seattle]] with NEST tracking the Decepticon straggler, [[Alice]]. They helped guide her stolen RV right into Sideswipe's sights, and he then impaled the "girl" in her seat. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 1|Nefarious #1}}

Later, when [[Theodore Galloway]] and his unit were attacked by [[Ransack (ROTF)|Ransack]] en route to investigate the mysterious activities of the enigmatic [[Initiative]] at [[Hoover Dam]], the Autobots dispatched Skids and Mudflap to Galloway's aid. Together, they held Ransack off until a NEST strike team could arrive and finish him off. The Twins then accompanied Galloway and the soldiers to Hoover Dam, and while the Initiative forces had already cleared out, Skids and Mudflap realized what they had been after: residal energy from the [[AllSpark]] that had been kept there. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 4|Nefarious #4}} To uncover the Initiative's secret goals, the Autobot soon allied themselves with [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]], and followed his lead to the Initiative's base of operations in [[Crater Lake]], [[Oregon]]. Skids and Mudflap were deployed to attack the base from the east; when they were met with resistance in the form of the Initiative's troops, they took them out of the equation by disabling the advanced weaponry they were wielding with precision blasts. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 5|Nefarious #5}} He and Mudflap then worked as back-up for Bumblebee's team of cadets in the final battle at Crater Lake. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 6|Nefarious #6}}

When NEST discovered that Starscream was selling Transformer weaponry to humans, a sting operation was staged in which [[Theodore Galloway]] would pose as a buyer to lure the Decepticons in. When [[Skystalker (ROTF)|Skystalker]], [[Divebomb (Movie)|Divebomb]] and [[Fearswoop (ROTF)|Fearswoop]] took the bait, The Twins joined Arcee and her sisters and the human forces of NEST in tackling them, the Decepticons we´re killed and [[Fearswoop (ROTF)|Fearswoop]] taken as a prisioner. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 1|Rising Storm #1}} after [[Sam Witwicky]] contacted NEST as [[Philadelphia]] was beign attacked by Decepticons, the Twins joined Prime and the Others. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 2|Rising Storm #2}} the Twins along the others arrived to Philadelphia. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 3|Rising Storm #3}} Skids and Mudflap survived the battle and witness when the [[Driller]] took [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]] away. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 4|Rising Storm #4}}

===''Dark of the Moon'' film===

{{spoiler|Dark of the Moon (film)|July 29, 2011}}

Skids and Mudflap could be spotted in vehicle mode at the end of an Autobot convoy as the team rolled into the hangar of NEST's [[Washington, D.C.]] base. {{storylink|Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}

{{note|Skids and Mudflap were originally scripted to feature in ''Dark of the Moon'', but their appearances were cut from the finished film, save for this ''very'' brief shot. See "adaptations" below for what they would have done if they'd made it through to the final cut.}}

===''Dark of the Moon'' adaptations===
[[Image:DOTM3 skids dies.jpg|right|thumb|250px|This scan is for all you film critics out there!]]
Skids and Mudflap were present at NEST's Washington base during Optimus Prime's conversation with [[Charlotte Mearing]] about the moon landings.

Later, the Twins were on hand when [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]] revealed that he was in league with the Decepticons and killed Ironhide. As Sentinel turned his weapon toward Bumblebee, Skids charged forward to stop the ancient Autobot, but wound up taking the full force of the blast himself and perished. But before he died, he forgave Mudflap for being a bad brother and for claiming he was the "smart one", Skids's death sent Mudflap into a rage, but even his righteous anger could not make him a match for Sentinel, and he too met his ends moments later. {{storylink|Dark of the Moon (novel)}}{{storylink|Dark of the Moon (comic series)}}
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==Toys==
===''Revenge of the Fallen''===

====Legends Class Toys====
[[Image:ROTF-toy_Legends_Skids.jpg|250px|thumb|For some reason, [[Scrapper (ROTF)|Scrapper]] has no interest in [[Triple Takeover|making him into a chair]] anytime soon.]]
*'''Autobot Skids''' (Legends, 2009/2010)

: Legends Class Skids is a simple, affordable small-scale toy. Amusingly, just like his brother Mudflap, the [[kibble]] on his arm actually works as his big deformed hand, only grossly oversized.
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[[Image:TargetLegendsOffroadSkids.jpg|thumb|250px|Because what you want when you're offroading is a front-drive hatchback city car.]]
*'''Rally Mudflap and Offroad Skids''' (Legends multi-pack, 2010)

:This redeco of Legends Skids features white stripes, yellow headlights and various other changed details. He was packaged with a redecoed Mudflap as a [[Target]] exclusive two-pack, and was part of the [[N.E.S.T. Global Alliance]] [[subline imprint]].

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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:ROTFtoy-SkidsDeluxe.jpg|250px|thumb|Kids, never try to deflect a fusion cannon blast with your face.]]
*'''Autobot Skids''' (Deluxe, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RA-10'''

:Skids was released as part of the second wave of deluxe class ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' action figures. He transforms into a green Chevy Beat Concept car with black stripe designs on either side and a black hood. His vehicle form features transparent blue windows. In robot mode, Skids features a "[[Mech Alive]]" [[gimmick]] that makes the fenders on the sides of his chest push out and his head move forward when the front grill is pushed inwards. Moving the head up and down through this gimmick may suggest it's meant to make him appear as though he is talking, but the packaging only says "Moving Armor Panels".

:Skids's right arm is larger than his left, just like his movie counterpart's. It features a small cannon that, when pressed, both makes the cannon stick out in a position more suitable for firing and activates Skids's "Punching Robot Fist" action. Despite this, his right hand is surprisingly poseable.

:Skids originally came with unpainted teeth cast in green plastic. A [[variant|running change variant]] adds gold paint for one tooth and white paint for the other one.<ref name="deluxeteeth">[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/toys/revenge-of-the-fallen/skids/1818/1/41/ Both variants of Deluxe Class Autobot Skids with painted and unpainted teeth at Seibertron.com]</ref>

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/Skids/skids.htm More information on Skids at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:ROTF_Deluxe_Skids&Mudflap_toy.jpg|thumb|250px|Hey look, it's the robot child actor who grew up and ''became'' a convenience store.]]
*'''Autobot Skids And Mudflap''' (Deluxe, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RA-20'''

:This two-pack of the twin Autobot brothers can combine into a single, old-fashioned ice cream truck. The vehicle splits in half right down the middle of its chassis (similar to how it does in the film) to create the two small robot forms. Other than the transformation, the toy features no [[gimmick]]s.

:Mudflap's heels are too thick for his feet to fold up properly in vehicle mode, though this can be fixed by trimming them. Also, this toy may be the first Transformer to feature the typeface Comic Sans, which is used to write "MADE FRESH FOR YOU" across both front wheel hubs. But that's on Skids's half, so Mudflap is partly absolved here.

:Both Skids and Mudflap have sculpted rust detailing all over the Ice cream tuck, but for some reason, they are not painted.

:Amusingly, the ice cream truck accommodates [[Human Alliance]] human figures ''really'' well.
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[[Image:ROTFDesertVersionSkidsAndMudflap.jpg|thumb|250px|Muddy Skids. Wait, ew.]]
*'''Desert Version Skids''' (Deluxe, 2009)
:This version of Skids has a sandblasted deco to closer match his onscreen appearance during the scenes in Egypt. It is only available in Japan with purchase of the Revenge of the Fallen DVD.
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[[Image:TRUShanghaiShowdownSkidsAndMudflap.jpg|thumb|250px|]]
*'''Shanghai Showdown''' (Multi-pack, 2010)
:The twins in this set have additional decals for you to put on (save for the "suck my popsicle" slogan) and painted rust and "Caution Children" for the ice cream truck mode. They come with a redecoed version of [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]].

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====Fast Action Battlers====
[[Image:ROTF_FAB_Missile_Blast_Skids.jpg|thumb|250px|That's not going to pick up any [[Charlene (cowgirl)|cowgirls]] any time soon.]]
*'''Missile Blast Skids''' (Fast Action Battler, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' Missile

:[[Fast Action Battlers]] Missile Blast Skids is quite similar in transformation engineering to [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Fast Action Battlers|Plasma Punch/Plasma Blast Bumblebee]], and even has a similar [[gimmick]] in having one arm being a spring-loaded projectile launcher.

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[[Image:ROTF-toy_FAB_OffroadSkids.jpg|thumb|right|250px|]]
*'''Offroad Skids''' (Fast Action Battler)
**''Accessories:'' Missile

:A [[redeco]] of Missile Blast Skids with different details, such as silver on the back of his car mode, Autobot insignias on his doors and his name on his windshield.

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====Human Alliance====
{{anchor|haskids2009}}[[Image:ROTFtoy-SkidsHumanAlliance.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Then again...]]
*'''Autobot Skids / Arcee / Mikaela Banes''' (Human Alliance, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RA-25'''
**''Accessories:'' Missile
:Human Alliance Skids comes with a posable figure of [[Mikaela Banes]] that can fit inside in Skids's vehicle mode, plugging into either of his seats via a small hole in her back. In robot mode, Skids's seats end up on his arms, and Mikaela can still sit in either of them; Skids's right arm also features a spring-loaded missile launcher that can rotate into place in front of the seat, with flip-up firing conrols for Mikaela to take charge of. There is a small flaw in the design of the robot mode, being that the door wings are not exposed in the CGI model, but there is a small mod that can be done to hide the door wings. Mikaela can also stand on a platform in the small of Skids's back (via peg-holes on her feet), manning a small non-firing minigun that flips out over the top of Skids's head. Finally, Skids's left palm also contains a peg, meaning Mikaela can securely stand or sit in her big buddy's hand. Also, the primary weapons of HA Skids and HA Mudflap are switched, that being the grappling hook belongs to Skids and the gun belongs to Mudflap.

:Additionally, pressing down on the gray piece above his squinting left eye opens and closes his mouth, to simulate a talking motion.

:Skids also comes packaged with a transforming figure of [[Arcee (Movie)#Human Alliance|Arcee]], who can also be ridden by Mikaela. Unfortunately, the colors of the HA Chromia and the HA Arcee are switched, even though the robot modes resemble the CGI models of the opposite.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/HASkids/skids.htm More information on Human Alliance Skids at TFU.info]''

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====Gravity Bots====
[[Image:ROTF_GravityBots_Skids.jpg|thumb|250px|From car to novelty trash can in the blink of an eye!]]
*'''Autobot Skids''' (Gravity Bot, 2009)
:An extremely simplified version of Skids with a small tab on the bottom of his feet that when he placed on his feet will automatically transform him to robot mode. There is also one on his back side that when placed upon will transform him to his vehicle mode.
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====Robot Replicas====
[[Image:ROTF-toy_RobotReplicas_Skids.jpg|thumb|200px|]]
*'''Autobot Skids''' (Robot Replicas, 2009)

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===Transformers (2010)===
====Legends Class toys====
[[Image:TF2010toyline_LegendsTunerSkids.JPG|right|thumb|300px|The white...]]
*'''Tuner Skids''' (Legends, 2010)

:Tuner Skids is a [[redeco]] of ROTF [[Legends Class]] Autobot Skids, colored similarly to Fast Action Battlers Offroad Skids.

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[[Image:EZDeliverySkids.jpg|thumb|300px|Skid-Zette.]]
*'''Delivery Skids''' (EZ Collection, 2010)

:Delivery Skids is a redeco of Legends Class Skids in pink and white, referencing his and Mudflap's ice cream truck form. This toy was only available in Japan.

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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:TF2010-toy_DeluxeTunerSkids.jpg|thumb|right|300px|... and the black.]]
*'''Tuner Skids''' (Deluxe, 2010)

: Tuner Skids is a [[redeco]] of ROTF Deluxe Class Autobot Skids (Chevrolet Beat version) in black and a darker shade of green. His license plate says "1H8CONS," and on the back is a bumper sticker that reads "I helped make the Fallen falled!" While stock photography shows the figure has one gold painted tooth and one silver one, the figure actually has both teeth painted silver.

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*'''High-Speed Spy Battle''' (Multi-pack, 2010)
[[Image:TargetHighSpeedSpyBattle.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
:This [[Target]]-exclusive two pack (or three pack, depending on [[Rack'n'Ruin|how you count]]) features a redecoed Sideways and the ice-cream truck mode of Mudflap and Skids, which replaces most of the robot mode white plastic on the originals with a rusty brown, adds even more rusty paint applications than the earlier "Shanghai Showdown" version and omits the comic-sans "Made fresh for you" on the front wheel wells of the truck.

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===Dark of the Moon===
====Cyberverse====
[[Image:DOTM_Cyberverse_Skids_toy.jpg|thumb|300px|Shine on, you crazy diamond.]]
*'''Autobot Skids''' (Cyberverse Legion, 2011)
**''Series:'' '''1'''
**''Number:'' '''005'''
**''Japanese ID Number:''

:''[[Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]'' [[Cyberverse]] Legion Skids is a retool of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Legends Class Autobot Skids, retaining his Chevrolet Beat concept car mode from the previous movie compared to his brother Mudflap's updated Chevrolet Spark vehicle mode. However, Skids' packaging refers to his vehicle mode as a "Chevrolet Spark Concept Mode". The smaller hand on this figure has been remolded to accommodate weapons from other Cyberverse figures.

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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:DOTM_Deluxe_Skids_toy.jpg|thumb|300px|''Screw'' being in disguise, he's getting rush hour traffic out of his way ''by any means''.]]
*'''Autobot Skids''' (MechTech Deluxe, 2011)
**''Japanese ID Number:'' '''DA07'''
**''Accessories:'' MechTech Hand Blaster/Double-Barreled Cannon

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====Human Alliance====
[[Image:DOTM_Human_Alliance_Skids_Epps.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]
*'''Autobot Skids / Elita-1 / Tech Sergeant Epps''' (Human Alliance, 2011)
**''Japanese ID Number:''
**''Accessories:'' Missile

:''Dark of the Moon'' Human Alliance Skids is a redeco of the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' toy in his new colors, and now comes with a figure of [[Robert Epps]] to drive him instead of Mikaela. The included Arcee toy was redecoed into [[Elita-One (Movie)|Elita-1]].

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==Merchandise==
===Revenge of the Fallen===
====RPMs - Robot Powered Machines====
[[Image:ROTFtoy-SkidsRPM.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I ran myself over!]]
*'''Mudflap vs Autobot Skids''' (R.P.M. Mini-Vehicle, 2009)
**''Series:'' '''Battle Series'''
**''Number:'' '''04 of 08'''

: Number four in a series of eight [[Robot Powered Machines]] Mini-Vehicle versus packs, Skids is packaged against his twin, Mudflap. He's an untransformable Hot Wheels-like car, unless you count his robot mode being sculpted and painted onto the underside of him.

: This toy is also available with the Devastator Showdown track set.

*'''Devastator Showdown''' (R.P.M. Mini-Vehicle Track Set, 2009)

: A Mini-Vehicle of Skids also comes with this [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]]-themed race track set.

*'''Autobot Skids''' (R.P.M. Mini-Vehicle, 2010)
**''Series:'' '''Combat Series 2'''
**''Number:'' '''04 of 04'''

: An individual release of Battle Series Skids.

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===Robot Heroes===
[[Image:RobotHeroes_SkidsMegatron.jpg|right|thumb|300px|My head is bigger than your cannon!.]]
*'''Autobot Skids and Megatron''' (2009)

:''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'' Skids is a [[super deformed]] figure with limited articulation in his neck and shoulders. He came in a two-pack with [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]].

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[[Image:rotf_desertdevastation_rh.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Give me your fac—oh wait, wrong article.]]
*'''Desert Devastation''' (Multi-pack, 2010)

:Both Skids and Mudflap are sculpted in their vehicle modes for this box-set that also includes [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] and [[William Lennox]].

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[[Image:Robotheroestwinswidewaysprimedemolishorsideswipe.jpg|right|thumb|300px|[[B.O.T. (episode)|Pink smoke?]] Should probably get that looked at.]]
*'''Shanghai Shootout''' (Multi-pack, 2010)
:Shanghai Shootout replicates the opening action scene from ''Revenge of the Fallen'', featuring figurines of [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] and Skids in their combined ice cream truck mode, [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] (vehicle mode), [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]], and [[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]] (vehicle mode). Demolishor is a slightly-oversized figure and the centerpiece of the box set.

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===Speed Stars===
[[Image:SpeedStars_LightsSounds_Skids.jpg|thumb|right|300px|You shouldn't be able to moon someone in car mode, but Skids has ''found'' a way.]]
*'''Autobot Skids''' (2010)
**''Series:'' '''Lights & Sounds'''

:''[[Speed Stars]]'' Lights & Sounds Skids is a cute and round Chevy Beat with various playing sounds and flashing lights. Like the toys in the Robot Powered Machines line, it doesn't transform, but features a sculpted robot mode on its underside.

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==Notes==
*The ice cream truck is apparently based on a heavily customized 1930s Chevrolet truck.{{fact|confirmation needed}} [[Ben Procter]] apparently lifted the color scheme and deco for his early concept design for the ice cream truck<ref name="procterrotf">[http://conceptartworld.com/?p=2772 Ben Procter's ROTF concept art at Concept Art World.]</ref> ''directly'' off a photo of an [[Australia]]n ice cream truck that had been added to the Wikipedia article for "ice cream van" in February 2006<ref name="wikipediaice">[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ice_Cream_Truck_Sydney_Australia_-_crop.png Photo of an Australian ice cream truck at Wikipedia, added in February 2006.]</ref>, down to identical placement and design of the fonts and graphics. The details were later slightly tweaked for the final design that can be seen in the movie... but only very slightly so.
*One of the decals on the ice cream truck's side that was created specifically for the movie reads "([[Decepticon]] [[insignia]]) suck my popsicle." Classy. Too bad the toy does not. (Because, you know, for kids...)
**A "censored" version of the movie is rumored to exist with the aforementioned text edited out, with the somewhat nonsensical result of a Decepticon symbol, followed by a long black space and then the word "popsicle". This version was supposedly shown in some theaters even though other theaters in the same market apparently got the uncensored version. The more likely explanation for this would be that different theaters simply used different lightings settings, which effectively rendered the words "suck my" (which were written in dark red on a black backdrop to begin with) invisible, with no actual intention of "censorship" behind it.
[[Image:ROTFSmartCarTwinConcept.jpg|thumb|250px|Skids and Mudflap would never get their Larry.]]
*The Twins' final alternate modes in the film, the Chevrolet Beat (Skids) and Chevrolet Trax (Mudflap), were designed by General Motors as small car concept vehicles. At one point in the film's pre-production, another small car, the [[wikipedia:Mercedes-Benz|Mercedes-Benz]] [[wikipedia:Smart (automobile)|Smart]], was evidently considered as an option for a film character; concept art of a "third twin" based on it appears in various sections of the ''Revenge'' DVD special features, always in close proximity to concept art of Skids and Mudflap. Whether it was meant to be a third character related to Skids and Mudflap or if it was supposed to be used in place of one of them is unknown. What '''is''' known is that [[Hasbro]] has had great difficultly in the past trying to get likeness licenses from German automakers, which is probably why the vehicle/character was dropped.
*In their combined ice cream truck mode, the Twins sport the [[license plate]] "KDM 814". A minor variant of this, "KDM 0814" with an extra "0", was later used for the life-sized Bumblebee prop on various displays from 2009 up until at least 2011. For the individual cars, two different sets of license plates were apparently used, either "Beat" and "Trax" referencing their car models or "Skids" and "Mudflap". All four plates were auctioned off in October 2009.<ref name="licenseauct">[http://www.icollector.com/Autobots-Skids-and-Mudfap-s-license-plates-from-Transformers-Revenge-of-the-Fallen_i8633012 Mudflap and Skids license plates for auction] at icollector.com</ref> The auction claims that the plates referring to their car models were used in vehicle mode, while those identifying the two Autobots by name were used in robot mode... which is ''directly'' refuted by screencaps from the movie used for the auction, which show the robot name plates on the cars in vehicle mode. Also, the two ''real'' Chevrolet Beat and Trax cars the Twins scan already feature individualized license plates sporting their robot names. Huh.
*The Chevrolet Beat, Skids's upgraded [[alternate mode]], goes into production in 2011 as the Chevrolet Spark.

*The Twins have been accused of being derogatory racial stereotypes of inner-city African-Americans. Writers [[Roberto Orci]] and [[Alex Kurtzman]] claim to have followed [[Michael Bay]]'s lead with the characters, while Bay says voice actors [[Tom Kenny]] (Skids) and [[Reno Wilson]] (Mudflap) came up with their schtick on their own. Reportedly, Wilson (who is African-American himself) was sad to learn his way of speaking was apparently offensive to himself.<ref name="jive">[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/24/transformers-jivetalking-_n_220005.html The Huffington Post's coverage of the furor over the Twins]</ref> Orci and Kurtzman said the twins' portrayal was not in their script, that they were disappointed in the characters and admitted that they could understand if others were offended by the characters.<ref>[http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/orci-and-kurtzman-respond-to-claims-of-racism-in-transformers-2.php Robert Orci and Alex Kurtzman respond to claims of racism on ''Revenge of the Fallen'', Film School Rejects, June 24, 2009]</ref>

*The twins are less slangy in the [[Revenge of the Fallen (comic series)|comic adaptation]] and [[Transformers (Titan Magazine)|Titan comics]], which could either indicate it was a last-minute voice actor decision or [[Simon Furman]] just didn't want to try writing "street".

*In [[Tales of the Fallen issue 6|''Tales of the Fallen'' #6]], it's revealed that the Twins' processors were messed up by the Decepticon medic [[Flatline]]. So... now they act the way they do in the film because they're ''brain-damaged''? This is not exactly ''helping''.






*Amusingly, [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Battle-Bios.cfm Hasbro's Battle Bio] for Skids lists his arch-enemy as... [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]].

*Skids's name is only mentioned once on-screen (by Mudflap right before he loses his grip on Skids when Devastator is trying to suck them up).

*The Twins' inclusion in [[Dark of the Moon (film)|''Dark of the Moon'']] film has been kind of controversial. the Twins were spotted in set of the film in their new Chevy Sparks alternate modes multiple times but Michael Bay and his website admin Nelson Lauren kept saying they were not in the film but fans didn't believe them because of the existence of the toys and the fact they were seen briefly in the trailer. Paramount Pictures later confirmed the Twins' removal to the fansite TFW2005. However, the Twins are indeed spotted in vehicle mode in the beginning of Dark of the Moon. <ref>http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/official-word---the-twins-are-not-in-tf3-172157/</ref>

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Skids''' (スキッズ ''Skizzu'')

==References==
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[[Category:Combiners]]
[[Category:Dark of the Moon Autobots]]
[[Category:Human Alliance]]
[[Category:NEST]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen Autobots]]
[[Category:Robot Heroes]]
[[Category:Cyberverse]]
[[Category:Target exclusives]]
[[Category:Transformers (2010) Autobots]]

Cheetor (BW)

2011-06-27T15:33:44Z

86.147.64.108: /* Henkei! Henkei! pack-in comic */

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:''Cheetor is a [[Maximal]] (and later an [[Autobot]]) from the [[Beast Era]] portion of the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Cheetorbw.jpg|right|250px|thumb|There he is, your little guy.]]
'''Cheetor''' is full of youthful overconfidence. He's also the fastest Maximal on four legs which, combined with his impulsive nature, often gets him into more trouble than he can handle. It's needless to say that Cheetor's overbearing enthusiasm gets on the nerves of some of his teammates, [[Rattrap]] in particular. He's in those awkward formative years. Thankfully, [[Optimus Primal]] keeps a steady eye on the young Maximal. In return, Cheetor has grown to idolize Primal, whom he calls "Big Bot." Optimus Primal knows the inexperienced Cheetor needs a good role model, so he doesn't mind too much. And, hey, at [[spark]] he's a good kid. Just... keep him away from [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]], okay? Impressionable minds, and all. And [[Matrix]] help us when Cheetor gets past his "cooties" stage and notices [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]].

Cheetor also appears to have vague precognitive skills, sensing important events before they actually happen — usually in the form of ominous dreams. With such power and potential, who knows — maybe the lad is destined for [[Oracle (BM)|great things]] [[Matrix Templar|someday]].

{{quote|I'm not lookin' forward to the day they chronicle ''my'' early bonehead adventures onto a [[Data-Con|datacon]] for all the world to see.|Cheetor, about [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus]], in "[[Wreckers: Finale Part II]]."}}

==Fiction==
===First wave toy bios===
[[Image:CheetorBW-2packcomic.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Whose tusks gleam in the night? Not his!]]

{{quote|Eyes of a '''stalker''' hunting its prey... The super-swift '''cheetah''' springs! But '''food''' is not on '''this''' hunter's mind...|[[Optimus Primal vs Megatron!]]}}

Cheetor is a quiet and confident warrior, who constantly stalks jungles in his search for Predacons. He is efficient, striking hard and fast with incredible reflexes in either mode. He is known to openly dare Predacons to challenge him and his laser-powered [[Quasar rifle|quasar cannon]]. {{storylink|Cheetor (BW)/toys#Beast Wars|Cheetor Bio}}

In a swamp outside the [[Fusion Building]] genetics lab, a fleet of ferocious animals has gathered. Suddenly, the cheetah and his wild comrades are under attack by a massive alligator! Surprise! This is a battle between [[Optimus Primal]] and his [[Maximal|Maximals]] and [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]]! Cheetor quickly transforms to attack [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]], and the [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]] have begun! {{storylink|Optimus Primal vs Megatron!}}

{{note|Collect them all!}}

{{note|This comic and the on-package [[Bio|bios]] of the first wave of Beast Wars toys predate the development of the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon and its backstory. They seem to present the characters as a direct continuation of the previous Autobot/Decepticon conflict, with Optimus Primal actually being a new form of Optimus Prime and Megatron being his Generation 1 counterpart, and their battles taking place on present day, [[human]]-inhabited Earth, rather than in the distant past. Once the cartoon launched, the toyline adjusted itself to match that continuity instead, relegating this one to an aborted [[micro-continuity]].}}

===Cartoon continuity===
====Dawn of Future's Past====
[[Image:CheetorBW-DawnofFuturesPast.jpg|thumb|300px|left|Fur is murder!]]
A former cadet of the [[Maximal Command Security Force]], a Maximal who would later call himself Cheetor left the organization young after being recruited by Optimus Primal based on his leadership potential. "Cheetor" enthusiastically joined the crew of the ''Axalon'', hoping to see the furthest reaches of space. His vehicle mode could reach 550 mph, making him the fastest Maximal aboard the ''Axalon'' even before landing on prehistoric Earth. Cheetor served as the ship's communications officer.

Cheetor and the rest of the Axalon crew were waylaid on a Maximal space station for weeks, waiting for their exploration mission to begin. Finally, after leaving the space station, Optimus Primal explained the reason for their delay: they were ordered by the [[Maximal High Council]] to deposit a [[Protoform X|precious cargo]] on a barren moon. But before this could be achieved, the ''Axalon'' was contacted by the Maximal High Council again. The [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]], a treasured Maximal artifact, was stolen by the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]], and he and a band of Predacon criminals left [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] in a stolen ship. Since the ''Axalon'' was the closest ship, they were ordered to intercept.

But there were other ships en route. An [[Buzzsaw and Laserbeak's ship|unknown Predacon ship]] appeared and attacked them. Their mysterious attacker was countered by another strange ship, the ''[[Chromia 10]]''. Ultimately, the ''Axalon'' was able to destroy the Predacon ship but not before serious damage was dealt the ''Chromia 10''. The [[sparks]] of the two Maximals on board were beamed aboard the ''Axalon'' and [[Spark core transfer|placed]] inside [[blank]] [[protoform]]s to save their lives.

Just as the battle seemed to be over, Cheetor received an incoming transmission from Megatron's stolen ship. Megatron introduced himself and disappeared through a [[transwarp]] portal. Cheetor and the rest of the ''Axalon'' crew followed blindly. {{storylink|Dawn of Future's Past}}
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====''Beast Wars'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Ian James Corlett]] (English), [[Wataru Takagi]] (Japanese), [[Cássius Romero]] (Portuguese, Season 1), [[Tatá Guarnieri]] (Portuguese, Season 2 onwards), [[Bernard Métraux]] (French), [[Eberhardt Haar]] (German), [[Mario Scarabelli]] (Italian), [[Alejandro Illescas]] (Latin American Spanish), [[Jover Eduardo]] (Casilian Spanish)

[[Image:Cheetorbeast1.jpg|right|250px|thumb|What? Is it my breath?]]
After the ''[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]'' crash-landed on a mysterious planet, the most youthful crew member of the disabled ship chose a cheetah as his new beast form. After admiring his new appearance, he renamed himself Cheetor. While the other Maximals were unpacking, Cheetor decided to show off, racing after some cheetahs. He soon encountered Waspinator, and opened fire, but found himself outclassed(!). The rest of the Maximals and Predacons turned up, and Cheetor cut off [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s speech with a "treacherous underhanded sneak attack". A full battle ensued, during which Cheetor's foot became caught in some rocks, and he had to be rescued by Optimus. {{storylink|Beast Wars (Part 1)}}

When Dinobot challenged Optimus to a duel, Cheetor was keen to take out the Predacon himself, and had to be restrained from joining the fight. After the battle was interrupted by the other Predacons, a huge [[Energon (fuel)|energon crystal]] was revealed in a nearby mountain, and the Maximals rushed there to try to prevent the Predacons claiming it for themselves. With the massive amount of energy there, they were forced to fight in their beast modes, though it did give Cheetor the opportunity to try to settle the score with Waspinator. Ultimately, the energon was all destroyed. {{storylink|Beast Wars (Part 2)}}

[[Image:Cheetor-precog.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Cheetor should stop eating cheese before he goes to bed.]]
Cheetor enthusiastically volunteered to check out a new experimental comlink. Despite being under orders not to get into any combat situations, he unsuccessfully attempted to attack [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] and was left heavily damaged. After a strange precognitive dream, he awoke back on the ''Axalon'', whether the other Maximals expressed their disappointment in his actions. Given a hard time by Rattrap, Cheetor rushed out to make another attempt to capture the cannon that Scorponok was recovering, and was captured by [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]]. Luckily for him, he was soon rescued by Rattrap, who also lied to Optimus to cover the young bot's hide. {{storylink|The Web}}

[[Image:EqualMeasures Cheetor with gutgun.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Boy's got guts.]]
Though Cheetor was looking forward to another mission to install energon monitoring devices, Optimus delayed the mission due to the heavy storm raging. Dinobot managed to goad Cheetor into going out anyway, and, while placing one of the devices, a lightning bolt hit it, resulting in a bizarre two-way teleportation effect between the Maximal and Predacon bases. Cheetor himself found himself in the ''[[Darksyde]]'', where he was able to hack the Predacon data files and discover that the two crashed ships lay on a common energon vein, meaning that an explosion at one base would destroy both. He managed to get the information back to Optimus, but Dinobot had already sent through a bomb — Cheetor was able to detach it from the console it was fixed to in time. He returned to the ''Axalon'', where he promised Optimus that he would pay more attention to orders... until the next time. {{storylink|Equal Measures}}

After a decisive Maximal victory at the [[Standing Stones]], an [[Vok probe|alien probe]] swallowed Optimus Primal. The argument over who would lead turned into a secret ballot, during which, from Rhinox's reaction, Cheetor voted for Dinobot, suggesting he trusted the Predacon's leadership skills over those of Rattrap. As it turned out, the exercise was rendered pointless by the revelation that Optimus wasn't dead after all. {{storylink|Chain of Command}}

[[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]] discovered a [[flying mountain]] with a cache of super-powerful energon at the top, but he was spotted by Cheetor, who immediately dashed back to the ''Axalon'' to inform the other Maximals. {{storylink|Power Surge}} When one of the [[stasis pod]]s crashed to the ground and Optimus was damaged by a Predacon sneak attack, Cheetor, Rhinox and Rattrap set out to try to get to the pod, but were delayed by Waspinator and Terrorsaur. They were beaten to the pod by the Predacons, but a last-minute gambit by Dinobot and Optimus meant that the [[protoform]] inside had already been reformatted into [[Tigatron]]. {{storylink|Fallen Comrades}} Like the other Maximals, Cheetor couldn't believe that Rattrap had defected to the Predacons. Of course, it turned out to be simply a ploy to determine how the Predacons had been spying on the Maximals. {{storylink|Double Jeopardy}}

[[Image:Cheetor&badoptimus.jpg|thumb|left|200px]]
Cheetor, Rattrap, Dinobot and Rhinox were forced to evacuate the ''Axalon'' when a fight caused Rhinox's new [[Sentinel (BW)|defense system]] to go out of control. {{storylink|A Better Mousetrap}} Infected by a Predacon virus which caused uncontrollable rage, Optimus managed to persuade Cheetor to release him from his confinement, only for the Maximal leader to head off on a one-bot mission against the Predacons. After Primal had slagged most of the Predacons, Cheetor managed to get hold of the antivirus and administer it to Optimus. {{storylink|Gorilla Warfare}}

When a [[temporal probe]] sent from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] came into range of the planet, the Maximals tried to set up a signal array to contact it. The Predacons had other idea though, and Tarantulas's [[transformation lock lens]] locked both Cheetor and Tigatron in their beast modes. The pair were captured and put in cages in the ''Darksyde'', but soon escaped and used the Predacon repair pools to fix themselves. They rejoined the fight in time to save Optimus and Rhinox from Megatron, but the Predacons had prevented the signal from being sent. {{storylink|The Probe}}

After the apparent destruction of the Predacons, Cheetor and Rattrap mocked Dinobot's sorrow at the passing of his ex-comrades. It was, of course, a ruse, and the Predacons revealed themselves once the Maximals had repaired their ship. Cheetor accompanied Optimus into battle to retrieve the injured Dinobot, providing cover fire for his leader. When Terrorsaur hit a retreating Optimus from behind, Cheetor flew into a rage, firing wildly (and downing the flier) before getting shot by Megatron. He managed to drag himself to the ''Axalon'' as it took off, and would've pulled Optimus onboard if not for Scorponok's parting shot. As he broke the sad news to his allies, he was ambushed by their stowaway—Megatron himself—and awoke to find the Axalon grounded...permanently this time. {{storylink|Victory (episode)|Victory}}

When Rhinox was twisted into a Predacon by Megatron's [[Transmuter (BW)|Transmuter]], Cheetor was keen to rescue their friend, Optimus ordered everyone to hold back, while the evil Rhinox wrecked havoc in the Predacon base. {{storylink|Dark Designs (episode)|Dark Designs}} On another occasion when Rattrap went missing, Cheetor and Optimus looked for the ratbot, only to discover that the Dinobot who had sent them on the hunt was a [[Clone One|clone]] controlled by Megatron. By the time they got back to base, the clone had already been defeated—and devoured—by the real Dinobot. {{storylink|Double Dinobot}}

[[Image:The Spark Cheetor Waspinator.jpg|right|thumb|200px|"No!! Waspinator's come to steal the fanbase's affection!"]]
Rhinox and Cheetor got to another crashed stasis pod before anyone else, however the ambient energon was endangering the protoform inside. Cheetor shut himself down to allow Rhinox to extract a needed component from him, and dreamed that Rhinox was telling him about [[spark]]s. After reawakening, Cheetor was forced to try to defend the pod against Blackarachnia, Waspinator and Terrorsaur, while only having limited use of his robot mode. Though he managed to defeat the first two, Terrorsaur prevailed... only to be defeated by the newly online [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]]. {{storylink|The Spark}}

During Tigatron's disappearance, Cheetor spotted Blackarachnia and Scorponok leaving the Predacon base on a mission. As it turned out, they were heading towards a [[Brigadoon|flying island]] which Tigatron had crashed on. Tigatron sent a [[Cyberbee]] containing footage of the island, which the Maximals were able to recover, despite Cheetor firing on it. {{storylink|The Trigger, Part 1}} Cheetor and Rhinox were forced to evacuate the ''Axalon'' after Blackarachnia took control of the island, intending to destroy the Maximal base with it. The spider's scheme was thwarted, but Cheetor bore witness to the island's final action: a beacon sent to its creators, who would most likely be very displeased with the island's demise. {{storylink|The Trigger, Part 2}}

[[Image:Dark Voyage Cheetor snake.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Featuring a scene from several fanfics.]]
Another Predacon gambit saw them stealing the [[rectifier coil]] from the Maximal base, effectively trapping the Maximals in their beast modes. Overcome by bestial instincts, the Maximals wandered off into the jungle, and it was only through Tigatron's intervention that they were able to delete the blocks separating their robot and beast psyches. {{storylink|Call of the Wild}} During a routine energy-harvesting run, an energon explosion caused a group of Maximals, of which Cheetor was a part, to be blinded far from base. As they attempted to journey home, Cheetor was attacked and severely damaged by a huge snake. He spent most of the rest of the journey on Rhinox's back, until they came under attack by Terrorsaur and Waspinator. Rhinox was able to guide everyone in fending off the attack without the use of their sight, and they were soon found by Optimus. {{storylink|Dark Voyage}}

After a violent storm damaged the Maximal base, making it vulnerable, Cheetor shot down a cyberbee which was spying on them. Unfortunately the Predacons had gained enough information and the help of [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], who had possessed Waspinator's body, enabling them to easily take over the ''Axalon''. The Predacon occupation didn't last long, as internal conflict in their ranks allowed the Maximals to retake their base. {{storylink|Possession}} After Rattrap and Dinobot's bickering caused Rhinox to beome infected by a Predacon [[energon discharge virus]], Optimus insisted the pair go out alone to find the cure. Cheetor was part of the party which went to back them up when they located [[Tarantulas's lair]]. {{storylink|The Low Road}}

[[Image:LawoftheJungle unhappy Tigatron and Cheetor.jpg|thumb|right|200px|"Are we there yet?" "No." "Are we there yet?" "NO!" "Are we there yet?"]]
After [[Snowstalker]] was killed by incidental fire during a battle, Cheetor tried unsuccessfully to comfort Tigatron, but the other Maximal announced he would no longer be a part of the Beast Wars. {{storylink|Law of the Jungle}} After Megatron called a truce and the Maximals needed to find out what he was up to, Cheetor suggested that Rattrap infiltrate the Predacon base unarmed, so as to not violate the truce. Rattrap was less than impressed with the suggestion. In the end, Tigatron did the infiltrating, and the other Maximals covered his escape. Rhinox and Cheetor "intercepted" Terrorsaur with a sheet of metal. {{storylink|Before the Storm}}

Tigatron and Cheetor observed the [[Planet Buster|moon splitting open]], but were called back to base by Optimus. They got back as the alien weapon began super-heating the planet's surface, and helped the damaged Dinobot and Rhinox into [[CR chamber]]s. Optimus intended to use a stasis pod Tarantulas had been working on to attack the Planet Buster, despite Cheetor, Tigatron and Airazor all volunteering to go in his stead. As the pod lifted off, Cheetor managed to tune the sensors in to follow its path until it destroyed the Planet Buster—and thanks to Megatron's meddling, Optimus Primal as well. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 2}}

[[Image:Aftermath Rattrap Cheetor.jpg|left|200px|thumb|INVISIBEL KEYBORD]]
When the [[quantum surge]] from the explosion engulfed the planet, Cheetor's exostructure was mutated into a shiny new [[Transmetal]] body. Along with a tougher metal hide and built-in weaponry, his beast mode gained the ability to fly via two powerful thrusters in his torso. Unfortunately, his first attempt at flying led him on a one-way trip into a bulkhead. His new flight mode allowed him to be particularly effective against Waspinator in a subsequent battle, however he was then blasted off a cliff by Megatron, and crashed into Rattrap while trying to fly to safety. Rhinox fortunately interceded before the pair could be slagged. {{storylink|Aftermath}}

[[Image:TM2Cheetorfly.jpg|right|200px|thumb|NEEEEOOOOWWWWWNNNNN]]
While Rhinox set up some equipment to send his core consciousness on a jaunt, Cheetor left the ''Axalon'' to look for Dinobot. Instead he found the Predacons and was attacked by a new addition to their forces, [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]]. He radio'd base to warn Rattrap. Rattrap and Dinobot soon joined him and prepared for a showdown with the Predacons. {{storylink|Coming of the Fuzors (Part 1)}} Though outnumbered, the trio persisted in defending the ''Axalon'', eventually capturing Silverbolt and taking him back to the ship for repairs. As the Predacons pressed on with their attack, the Maximals found themselves out of ammo, but were saved at the eleventh hour by the resurrection of Optimus Primal in a new Transmetal body. {{storylink|Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)}}

[[Image:OtherVisits2 Cheetor closeup.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Captain Blueface]]
Despite his new form, Cheetor was still assigned to monitor the sensor grid, reporting on strange signals. {{storylink|Tangled Web}} When Rhinox worked out that there was an alien site in [[Grid Zeiram]], the area Tigatron and Airazor were patrolling, Cheetor was sent to warn them. He was moments too late to prevent them from being shot into space by the alien plants there, much to his anguish. Though Cheetor wanted to rescue Tigatron and Airazor, the priority was on stopping Megatron, and the Maximals returned to Grid Zeiram, where a [[Metal Hunter|spaceship]] grew from the plant life and released an energy surge which blasted everyone present. {{storylink|Other Visits (Part 1)}} As the Transmetals and [[Fuzor]]s recovered quickly from the blast, Cheetor and Silverbolt took Dinobot and Rhinox back to base for repairs. After Megatron took control of the alien craft, the Maximals launched an attack on it, distracting Megatron long enough for Rattrap to undertake some sabotage. {{storylink|Other Visits (Part 2)}}

Out flying on patrol, Cheetor spotted a crashed stasis pod marked with an X, which Optimus explained contained [[Rampage (BW)|Protoform X]], a Maximal experiment. Of course, the Predacons arrived to try to take control of the pod, and weapons fire caused energon beneath the pod to explode. Damaged, Optimus and Cheetor returned to base, but were repaired in time to help Silverbolt and Blackarachnia defeat Protoform X. The Maximals left to consult Rhinox on the abomination, but that gave Megatron time to conscript X into the Predacons as Rampage. {{storylink|Bad Spark}} On another patrol, Cheetor encountered the Predacon forces, again, and communicated their position to Dinobot. After Dinobot died defending a valley of [[Protohuman|early humans]] from the Predacons, Cheetor extinguished the flames in the valley and joined the other Maximals in mourning his loss. {{storylink|Code of Hero}}

[[Image:Transmutate Cheetor in flight.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Check out my undercarriage!]]
While out hunting for yet another Predacon jamming tower, Rattrap and Cheetor stumbled on a stasis pod containing a strangely mutated [[Transformer]], which became known as [[Transmutate (character)|Transmutate]]. Unfortunately the first thing it did was break up their fight with the Predacons using its sonic attack. As Rattrap later joked about the creature's appearance, Cheetor pointed out Transmutate was standing right behind him. {{storylink|Transmutate (episode)|Transmutate}}

[[Image:Agenda1 Cheetor with tail club.jpg|thumb|left|300px| Kitten with a whip.]]
The Maximals were overjoyed when Rhinox revealed that the transwarp wavefront from the Planet Buster explosion would soon be detected by Cybertron and a rescue mission sent. Cheetor was looking forward to going to [[Six Lasers Over Cybertron]], much to Rattrap's embarrassment. Instead of the expected rescue mission, they got [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], a Predacon operative sent to apprehend Megatron. Joining forces, they mounted an attack on the ''Darksyde''. Cheetor was blasted by the defense systems. Twice. Unsurprisingly, he wasn't present when Megatron was finally captured. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 1)}} With the Maximals in control, Optimus order Cheetor to go out and look for Blackarachnia, whom Silverbolt had allowed to escape. Cheetor assured Silverbolt, who had developed feelings for the Predacon, that he would bring her in in one piece, only for Silverbolt to punch him out, leaving to find Blackarachnia himself. Cheetor wasn't happy.

[[Image:Agenda3 Cheetor handblasters.jpg|thumb|right|200px|KA-ME-HA-MEEEEEE...]]
He and Optimus instead went to fetch some energon crystals stashed by Tarantulas, only to run into [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]] and were forced to retreat when the crazed Predacon blew up the energon. The pair headed back for the ''Axalon'', only to be informed by Rattrap over the commlink that Ravage had switched sides — a fact made obvious by the [[transwarp cruiser]] bearing down on them with Megatron riding atop. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 2)}} Pinned down on the battlefield, Optimus and Cheetor were blasted flat by Megatron (although Cheetor managed to deal with Quickstrike first), but fortunately survived without too much damage. After Rattrap took out the transwarp cruiser, the Maximals set out in pursuit of the retreating Megatron.

As it turned out, the Predacon leader had found the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] buried in [[Mount St. Hilary]]. The Maximals worked frantically to dig out the cave in he'd created to block their passage, and then to evade the Ark's defenses, but were too late to prevent Megatron from shooting a stasis-locked [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] in the head. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part III)}}

The [[time storm]] abated once the Maximals stabilized Optimus Prime's condition. Cheetor and the newly "optimised" Optimus Primal attempted to stop the Predacons from attacking the ''Axalon'', with Cheetor taking out both Waspinator and Inferno, but the pair were helpless to stop the ship plunging off the cliff and being lost. The Maximals subsequently took up residence in the cavern housing the Ark. {{storylink|Optimal Situation}} Some time later, Cheetor was out on patrol when he saw a [[Starhopper|spaceship]] entering Earth's atmosphere. He was in the middle of a radio report when Rampage shot him down, and he was rescued by new arrival [[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]], who left him on a small rock. Without his flight capability, Cheetor had to wait to be rescued by Optimus. The pair picked up Depth Charge, who'd lost his fight with Rampage, and took him back to base for repairs. Cheetor's attempt to thank the new Maximal resulted in Depth Charge insulting him and swatting him aside. {{storylink|Deep Metal}}

[[Image:CuttingEdge Optimus sings to Cheetor.jpg|thumb|left|250px|There he is, my little guyyyyy! There he is; my little guy. Isn’t he cute?]]
When Rattrap was assigned to recover Sentinel from the underwater remains of the ''Axalon'', Cheetor was highly amused at the [[Subaquatic stealth vessel|wee ship]] that would be used, imagining it would make a swell kitty toy. {{storylink|Changing of the Guard}} While looking after [[Chak]] and [[Una]], after the pair had become separated from their tribe, Cheetor displayed the first hints of a crush on Blackarachnia, much to Silverbolt's displeasure. He volunteered to accompany her on a mission to return the children to their people. And gave Chak rides. As soon as they were attacked by a [[Cyber raptor]], he was blasted off a cliff and his jets damaged. Then during another battle with Tarantulas and a pack of Cyber raptors, he was blasted from behind by Waspinator. Primal and Silverbolt soon joined the battle, but Optimus was quickly incapacitated by a new [[cyber venom]]. They were all saved by [[Leader Neanderthal|protohuman leader]], who attacked the raptors with his club. Afterwards, Blackarachnia rebuffed his thanks, walking off with Silverbolt. Cheetor muttered that he was "not a kid... and maybe I'm not so nice either." {{storylink|Cutting Edge}}

[[Image:FeralScream1 Cheetor gets zapped.jpg|thumb|right|200px|]]
Optimus and Cheetor were unsuccessful in preventing the Predacons stealing another stasis pod — in fact Cheetor's missile accidentally took out Optimus, much to his dismay and embarrassment. After scolding Cheetor, Optimus told him to get some backup and assist Depth Charge, however Cheetor opted to go on alone. As he assisted Depth Charge in battling the Predacons, Cheetor was able to steal the [[Transmetal driver]] which Megatron was using in an experiment to create a [[Transmetal 2]] [[Dinobot II|clone of Dinobot]]. No sooner had he thrown the artifact to Depth Charge, than Cheetor was knocked into the cloning machine's electrical arc and apparently destroyed. Depth Charge returned to Maximal HQ with a piece of Cheetor's exo-shell as proof.

Cheetor, however, was alive, though badly damaged. After Depth Charge was captured by the Predacons, who were after the Transmetal driver, the group was attacked by a [[Wikipedia:Werecat|strange feline creature]]. A short time later, Cheetor himself collapsed on the Maximals' doorstep. {{storylink|Feral Scream Part 1}} Refusing use of the CR chamber, Cheetor had troubled dreams as he slept in his own quarters. On waking up, he was enveloped by a strange green glow from his spark. Rattrap, investigating the noise, was knocked down by the strange feline creature bursting out of Cheetor's quarters. Cheetor awoke in a cave, back in his Transmetal form and totally repaired, but with confused memories of what had happened. He returned to base, claiming to have taken care of the "cyber creature", but naturally Optimus insisted on seeing the remains in an attempt to get the young bot to tell him the truth.

[[Image:Cheetort2.JPG|left|300px|thumb|Rawr.]]
Finally, during a fight with Dinobot and Waspinator, Cheetor mutated permanently into his new Transmetal 2 form. He made short work of the two Predacons, however as Optimus observed, his beast mode was "still feral", and he had to be coaxed into returning to robot mode. As Optimus picked him up joyfully, Cheetor asked to be put down, as Optimus was embarrassing him. "Oh, joy," Rattrap remarked on this. "Cyber-puberty." He did seem happier when Blackarachnia admired his new form. {{storylink|Feral Scream Part 2}}

Cheetor returned the favor by drooling over scans of Blackarachnia's internal structure. She later pulled her gun on him and told him to back off, being sick of his stupid crush. Optimus broke up the conflict, sending Cheetor out on patrol. {{storylink|Proving Grounds}} He spent some time with Chak and Una, attempting to teach the pair about defending themselves against Predacons and basic engineering principles, such as levers. The class was interrupted when the Predacons abducted Una, however the girl was able to put Cheetor's teachings to the test, with favorable results. {{storylink|Go with the Flow}}

[[Image:CrossingtheRubicon Cheetor beast mode.jpg|right|200px|thumb|"U-G-L-Y - I ain't got no alibi!"]]
After Blackarachnia made an aborted attempt to upgrade herself with the Transmetal driver, Cheetor was concerned for her safety. He assisted in defending the base against a Predacon attack while Rhinox worked on removing the Predcaon shell program from Blackarachnia. As the Predacons retreated, their jubilation was cut short by the news that Blackarachnia didn't make it. As the Maximals eulogized her, Cheetor said she was "something special". Fortunately, she wasn't that dead. {{storylink|Crossing the Rubicon}} Megatron's new plan saw [[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]] taking control of Optimus Primal. The first thing he did was punch out Cheetor and lock the young Maximal in a cage. All of the Maximals were released in time to fight off a newly upgraded Megatron. {{storylink|Master Blaster}}

[[Image:Nemesis2-Maximals.jpg|left|thumb|300px|See ya in the next show!]]

Cheetor was sent to stop [[Tigerhawk]] from destroying Megatron, an act which would also destroy the original [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s spark, but he was quickly incapacitated by Tarantulas, who had plans of his own. Cheetor dreamed of Tigatron, Airazor and the [[Vok]], before waking and breaking free of his bonds. The fused spark from his dream guided him to Tarantulas's lair, where he was able to pull Tigerhawk clear before the lair exploded. {{storylink|Other Victories}} Depth Charge soon spotted the fugitive Predacons, and Cheetor was part of the group that went after them, though he just ended up escorting Blackarachnia and a badly damaged Silverbolt back to base. {{storylink|Nemesis Part 1}}

With Megatron on the way in the [[Nemesis (G1)|Nemesis]], the Maximals hurried to try to get the Ark ready to be moved, but were unable to get the ship moving. Fortunately a last minute schematic download pointed them to a shuttle stored in the Ark, and, after Rhinox used it to assault the Nemesis, the Maximals watched the warship crash in the distance. The Beast Wars over, the Maximals headed back for Cybertron in the shuttle. {{storylink|Nemesis Part 2}}
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====Beast Wars Diorama Story====
{{note|This fiction takes place shortly after the events of ''[[Possession]]''.}}

Cheetor eventually met up with several [[Autobot]]s and [[Decepticon]]s from [[Transformers (2007)|another dimension]]. A battle then broke out between the Maximals, Predacons, Autobots and Decepticons. The other-dimensional Transformers eventually returned to their place of origin and the Beast Wars continued as they were. {{storylink|Beast Wars Diorama Story}}

====3H ''Tales from the Beast Wars'' comics====
[[Image:CheetorBW-GroundZero.jpg|left|thumb|200px|In which Cheetor has a rugged, dimpled chin.]]
On a particularly beautiful day, Airazor and Rhinox were basking in the glow of a quiet Predacon-less day. In contrast, Cheetor was bored. Fortunately for Cheetor, he got his wish, and the sound of explosions alerted the three to a battle over the horizon. Unfortunately for Cheetor, he was quickly blasted into inaction by [[Packrat]], who had become unstable after an encounter with [[Furmanite]]. Later, he was okay, and he accompanied his fellow Maximals home. {{storylink|Ground Zero}}

Much later, after having acquired his [[Transmetal 2]] form, Cheetor and the other Maximals faced the time-traveling warlord, [[Shokaract]]. Unfortunately, they were no match for the [[Unicron]]-powered juggernaut and Cheetor was crushed in Shokaract's claws. This battle, as well as Shokaract's existence itself, would soon be retroactively erased from Cheetor's timeline with the efforts of the legendary [[Covenant]]. {{storylink|Terminus}}
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====IDW ''Beast Wars'' comics====
Cheetor appeared outside the ''Ark'' alongside Optimus Primal and Rhinox. Showing concern for Optimus, as the big monkey seemed to sense a presence that Cheetor pointed out to be seemingly non-existent. Somewhat freaked-out by Optimus's odd behavior, both Cheetor and Rhinox convinced Optimus that he was simply "chasing ghosts." {{storylink|The Gathering issue 3|The Gathering #3}}
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====''Transformers Legends'' anthology====
Near the end of the [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]], shortly after Megatron [[Master Blaster|combined his spark with that of the original Megatron's]], the newly-reconfigured Predacon leader hatched a new plan. Quickstrike was ordered to sneak into the Maximal base and place a transmitter which would increase the aggression of Cheetor and the other Maximals. Quickstrike was successful, and soon Cheetor was fighting that annoying little jerk, Rattrap. Fortunately, Optimus Primal was able to detect something was wrong, despite the transmitter's effects on himself, and the Maximals deactivated the transmitter and defeated Quickstrike. Cheetor and the others raced into the Ark, where they found Megatron, confused after a mental battle with his namesake, attempting to control the lifeless body of Starscream. Megatron fled. {{storylink|A Meeting of Minds}}

Later on Cybertron, just before the [[Battle for the Spark]] was over, [[Spark of Darkness|Megatron's spark polarity had been inverted, and his tortured life force traveled all over Cybertropolis]]. As Megatron's spark approached Cheetor and Nightscream, he was consumed with hatred for the both of them: for Nightscream because his actions recently had put him in this very predicament, and for Cheetor "because... well, because he's Cheetor." {{storylink|Singularity Ablyss}}

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====''Beast Machines'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor'': [[Ian James Corlett|Ian Corlett]] (English), [[Wataru Takagi]] (Japanese), [[Hercules Fernando]] (Portuguese), [[Vitcor Covarrubias]] (Latin American Spanish), [[Julio Lorenzo]] (Castilian Spanish), [[Björn Schalla]] (German), [[Massimo de Ambrosis]] (Italian)
[[Image:Reformatting Cheetor beast mode.jpg|thumb|left|250px|"STOP LOOKING AT MY ASS!"]]
During the journey back to Cybertron, Megatron broke free from the Autobot shuttle and somehow reached the planet before the Maximals. By the time the Maximals got there, Megatron had taken control of the planet with an army of [[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicon]] drones. They were hit with a [[transformation virus]] which reverted them to their original beast forms. {{storylink|Revelations Part II: Descent}} Unable to transform, Cheetor searched for a [[CR chamber]] with which to repair himself, and ended up saving Primal and Rattrap from a [[Tank Drone]]. The trio were unable to remember what had happened to them since arriving on Cybertron. They located Blackarachnia and descended into the planet to find the [[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]]. Primal communed with the Oracle, which reformatted the four Maximals into new [[Technorganic]] bodies. Faced with more Vehicons in the form of [[Motorcycle Drone]]s, the Maximals found themselves unable to transform out of beast mode, and were forced to deal with the drones as is. When Optimus finally worked out how to transform, Cheetor admired his new robot mode. {{storylink|The Reformatting}}

[[Image:MasteroftheHouse Cheetor deflects shots.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Trust us, in ''context'' this scene is really cool.]]
With Optimus's guidance, Cheetor and Blackarachnia were able to remaster the art of transformation, regaining their robot modes. However on the first attack by a [[Vehicon Mole|Mole Drone]], they spontaneously reverted back to beast modes through lack of focus. Despite the pair believing that they should find more survivors, Primal insisted that they concentrate on their training, and the group split up to find a new base. Blackarachnia persuaded Cheetor to accompany her to the surface to find more information, only to find the city deserted and the [[Cybertron InfoCore]] erased. Attacked by [[Sonic Attack Jet|Aero Drone]]s, the pair were helped by Primal, and the Maximals proceeded to the [[Council Citadel]], where Optimus went in and encountered Megatron. As the Maximals battled against the Vehicon drones, Cheetor discovered that, though he no longer possessed a flight mode, he could glide by holding his swords together. {{storylink|Master of the House}}

[[Image:MercenaryPursuits Cheetor poses with swords.jpg|thumb|left|200px|"...and I just got them stuck in the floor."]]
An attempt to access the [[Cybertron Archives]] didn't go much better, ending with Cheetor carrying Blackarachnia on his shoulders. Later on, he and Optimus had to save Rattrap and Blackarachnia ''again'' after the pair accessed the computer on the Autobot shuttle and alerted the Vehicons to their position. {{storylink|Fires of the Past}} After being captured by Megatron, the Maximals were able to turn [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]], one of the [[Vehicon general]]s to their side for a brief period. {{storylink|Mercenary Pursuits}}

Cheetor and Blackarachnia sparred with encouragement from Optimus, though Cheetor he preferred to rely on instinct not "blind faith". Realizing they were being watched, the Maximals chased down the spy with Cheetor finally catching [[Nightscream (BM)|Nightscream]], a young Maximal who survived Megatron's planetwide purging. Though Nightscream led the Maximals to a fruit tree which he had been living off, Cheetor refused Optimus's suggestion that the other Maximals do the same, stating bluntly that they processed energon, not fruit. As it turned out, the fruit caused the Maximals' beast sides to take over, endangering their lives when [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]] attacked with a squad of Aero drones, until Cheetor felled the tree. Optimus was left weakened after reformatting Nightscream, and put Cheetor in command. {{storylink|Forbidden Fruit}}

[[Image:WeakComponent Cheetor yells at Rattrap.jpg|thumb|right|200px|And now you know what it looks like if you're having sex with Cheetor.]]
On a recon mission in a tank drone factory, Cheetor's orders went unheeded by Rattrap, who ended up wrecking the whole plan. Understandably angry at his comrade, Cheetor would subsequently brush off Rattrap's suggestions that they should attack Megatron while the Vehicon leader was weak. He did stick up for Rattrap when Blackarachnia and Nightscream suggested getting rid of the rat, however his suggestion that they cover for Rattrap until Optimus recovered did not go down well when it was overheard by Rattrap himself. In fact, it drove Rattrap to Megatron's side. After the situation was resolved, Optimus reminded the others not to underestimate their fellow Maximal. {{storylink|The Weak Component}}

Cheetor was glad for Optimus to be back in command, bluntly rebuking Nightscream's suggestion that Primal was still too weak to lead. Nonetheless, when Cheetor had to save Optimus's life during a battle in a factory, and Optimus became lost in his own regrets what what Megatron had done, Cheetor was forced to take command to force a Maximal withdrawal. {{storylink|Revelations Part I: Discovery}} With the revelation that the Vehicon generals housed the sparks of their friends, Cheetor's plan was for Nightscream and Blackarachnia to distract [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]] and Jetstorm while he and Rattrap attempted to convert Tankor back into a Maximal. Cheetor was able to distract the Tank Drones while Rattrap hacked into Tankor, discovering that the Vehicon was their old friend Rhinox. {{storylink|Revelations Part II: Descent}}

[[Image:Revelations2 Cheetor looks wary.jpg|thumb|left|300px]]
Though Cheetor primarily disbelieved Rattrap, the pair decided to try to reawaken their friend, but ended up fleeing from the enraged Vehicon. Optimus, via directly contacting Rhinox's spark, was able to restore his personality, but Rhinox announced he was siding with Megatron's plan for a technological Cybertron. Optimus confided to the other Maximals that he believed the Oracle's plan was to restore the organic element to Cybertron, something that Cheetor wasn't convinced the planet ever had. {{storylink|Revelations Part III: Apocalypse}} While trying to find Nightscream's tree again, the Maximals were ambushed by Vehicons, who abducted Nightscream. The Maximals were able to rescue him, leading them to discover a cavern full of the remains of organic life. {{storylink|Survivor}}

The Maximals set about trying to find water, though Cheetor thought they should instead be attacking Megatron. They soon struck gold, or at least an [[organic goo]] which sprouted plants. Their victory was interrupted by an attack by Tankor, who used the [[Key to Vector Sigma]] to turn Nightscream into [[technomatter]]. Despite Cheetor's attempts to save it, the drill was damaged by the drones extracting Tankor. Cheetor and Optimus disagreed over their next course of action, but Cheetor finally came up with a plan to use a Mole Drone to drill to the organic core, to get more goo to cure Nightscream. During the battle to get control of a factory, Rattrap again found himself in the middle of a leadership tug-of-war between Optimus and Cheetor. The Maximals succeeded in getting control of a Mole Drone, only for Megatron to take control of it back as soon as they reached the orchid, and Cheetor reluctantly followed Optimus's lead and fortunately the plan succeeded. Cheetor, however, told Optimus he demanded more respect, and wasn't a kid any more. {{storylink|The Key}}

[[Image:TheCatalyst irritated Cheetor.jpg|thumb|right|200px|]]
The Maximals held a memorial service for Rhinox, before concentrating on trying to make their orchid succeed. A catalyst Rattrap found caused the plants to grow ''too'' well, forcing the other Maximals to rescue him from the rapidly growing vines. Cheetor was keep to use the fast-growing vines as a weapon against Megatron, but Optimus claimed the Oracle had other plans. When it turned out that Blackarachnia had gone trying to turn Thrust back into Silverbolt, Cheetor took the opportunity to prove that his plan would work, by rescuing her with a giant vine. Unfortunately it backfired, as the Vehicons zapped it into technomatter, and only swift work by Optimus saved the rest of the orchid. Optimus was not pleased. {{storylink|The Catalyst}}

In search of information on who had tampered with the Oracle, Cheetor and Rattrap hacked into the central computer, but were forced to retreat before learning anything. They returned to the other Maximals, and Optimus led them to the [[Plasma energy|Plasma Energy Chamber]] which, if opened, would destroy technological life on the planet, leaving only the organic. Shocked, Cheetor talked him out of opening the chamber and came up with an alternate plan to get Rattrap to find a way to disable the duplicate Keys. The operation was curtailed when Rattrap was zapped into technomatter by Tankor, leading Optimus to confront Megatron in person. Cheetor and the other Maximals continued fighting, but were overcome by Vehicons and turned into technomatter. {{storylink|End of the Line}}

[[Image:Fallout Cheetor's hopeful face.jpg|thumb|left|250px|"Optimus is dead?! ''AGAIN?''"]]
Restored to health by Optimus Primal's sacrifice, the Maximals were shocked to find their leader dead. Cheetor reacted violently to Nightscream's assertion that Cheetor wanted Optimus gone, but took a leadership position anyway. When the surviving Vehicon generals attacked, Cheetor called timeout, and unsuccessfully attempted to get them to join the Maximals. He believed they should continue with Optimus's mission, and led the other Maximals down to the Oracle chamber, where they discovered Primal was floating within the Oracle. Cheetor gave an impassioned speech to Big Bot, which helped him realise what his real mission for Cybertron was, and to choose life over joining the Matrix.

Together again, Cheetor suggested the next step should be to find the missing sparks, but when they approached the Council Citadel, a [[Grand Mal|giant floating head]] hoved into view. {{storylink|Fallout}} While Optimus tried to contact Megatron's spark, Cheetor led the other Maximals in attempting to find Jetstorm and Thrust, and they encountered [[Noble]], a completely organic [[Transformer]], whose transformation into Savage was uncontrollable. {{storylink|Savage Noble}} Cheetor favored leniency in dealing with Noble, but the creature was soon revealed to be Megatron, who transferred himself into the Grand Mal and reactivated the Vehicon drones, forcing the Maximals to flee underground once again. {{storylink|Prometheus Unbound}}

[[Image:WolfintheFold raging Cheetor.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Low down scammers got me seein' red!]]
While trying to save Nightscream from a pack of drones, Optimus and Cheetor were drawn aboard the Grand Mal via a tractor beam and interrogated for information. They were soon rescued by Silverbolt, who Blackarachnia had resurrected from Jetstorm. {{storylink|In Darkest Knight}} A [[Hate Plague]] virus created by Megatron infected the Maximal ranks, giving Cheetor a rather more forceful leadership style and causing the Maximals to fight among themselves. Though Cheetor seemed to fight it for a short period, he soon succumbed again, even taking his frustrations out on Optimus physically. Finally they realised what was happening and managed to work together. {{storylink|A Wolf in the Fold}}

With the technorganic crops failing, Cheetor tried to console Optimus. The news of a crashing ship led the Maximals to encounter [[Botanica (BM)|Botanica]], a Maximal formatted as a plant-based life form, who was able to lend a hand with the crops. {{storylink|Home Soil}} They would later encounter two new Vehicon generals created by Megatron — [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] and [[Strika (BM)|Strika]]. {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. I: The Strike}} The Maximals split up in their search for the missing sparks. Silverbolt revealed he still regarded Cheetor as a child, calling him "kid", much to Cheetor's annoyance, though Cheetor's inability to come up with a plan to shake the drones pursuing them doubtless didn't help. Once Cheetor saved their lives by getting rid of the drones, Silverbolt developed a smidgen more respect for him. {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. II: The Search}}

[[Image:Sparkwar3 Cheetor actionlines.jpg|thumb|left|200px|]]
The reappearance of Noble caused problems for the Maximals, leading Cheetor to suggest that Nightscream get rid of the creature before it got them all killed. Noble, however, did help them as Cheetor, Silverbolt and Nightscream distracted the drones so that Optimus could sneak into the Grand Mal. The action cost Noble his life, and all of the Maximals mourned him. {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. III: The Siege}} With the Grand Mal down, the Maximals celebrated. However Megatron's spark lived on, albeit in a disembodied state, and Cheetor tangled with it when it possessed the corpse of an Aero drone. Eventually Rattrap trapped it in a [[Diagnostic Drone]]. {{storylink|Spark of Darkness}}

[[Image:Endgame2 sparkpower Cheetor.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Vegeta! What does the scouter say about his power level?]]
The Maximals became sieged within the Grand Mal, trapped with the sparks they had searched for. Cheetor worked unsuccessfully to bring the weapons systems online. Rattrap's act of saving Botanica accidentally left them wide open to attack, and Optimus had to stop Cheetor telling off the rodent. Fortunately the three of them survived the Grand Mal crashing. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. I: The Downward Spiral}} Down, but not out, the Maximals began preparing their defenses for the impending Vehicon assault. The shields did not hold long, and the Maximals found themselves fighting against hordes of drones. Outnumbered, the Maximals used spark power bestowed on them by the Oracle to decimate the drones, until Megatron took the Oracle from them. [[Image:Maximals endofBMac.JPG|left|thumb|250px|Primal's dream comes true: the universe's largest cannabis garden.]] Cheetor found himself facing the three Vehicon Generals on his own, but was able to use the anti-gravity generators to fire Obsidian and Strika into orbit. Cheetor struggled with Thrust, finally using a [[spark extractor]] to rip out the Vehicon's spark. He was unprepared to face his next foe — Megatron, newly-installed into a duplicate of Primal's old "optimal" body — and had his own spark torn out by a cycle drone. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. II: When Legends Fall}}

After a city-spanning battle, Optimus sacrificed himself to destroy Megatron and reformat Cybertron into a technorganic paradise. Cheetor and the other Maximals were restored to their bodies and, as the sparks were reborn into new bodies, Cheetor had a final vision from the Oracle and told the other Maximals that Optimus would always be with them. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future}}
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====''Beast Machines'' toy bio====
At some point, Cheetor acquired a highly advanced stealth armor and dubbed himself Night Slash Cheetor. This new armor granted Cheetor all sort of new abilities, including being undetectable to every known Vehicon radar and tracking systems and creating a negative psychological effects on Vehicon generals, rendering their drones useless in combat. Considering the armor was never mentioned elsewhere, it would seem to have been a short-lived upgrade. {{storylink|Cheetor (BW)/toys#Beast Machines|Night Slash Cheetor bio}}
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====''Universe''====
[[Image:Sentinelcryotekwreckersfinale.jpg|right|thumb|250px|So they ''have'' been seen in the same room together!]]
Shortly after the planet underwent the [[Great Reformatting]], the [[Quintesson]]s seized the opportunity to attack, believing that the revolutionary change would have rendered the planets' inhabitants confused and docile. Suffice to say, the Transformers were greatly underestimated. Cheetor was revealed as a [[Matrix Templar]], as he and [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus]] (another templar) battled [[Cryotek (RID)|Cryotek]] deep underground. It also seemed that Cheetor was one of Rodimus's biggest fans, so much so that Cheetor based his first changeform on Rodimus's design.

Unfortunately, though Cheetor and Rodimus were able to use their powers to help defeat Cryotek, Rodimus perished in the incident. {{storylink|Wreckers: Finale Part II}}

A year later, Cheetor and the rest of Cybertron eagerly awaited at [[Memorial Spaceport]] for the return of five Autobots from the great war: [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]], [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]], [[Roulette (Universe)|Roulette]], and [[Shadow Striker (Universe)|Shadow Striker]]. The event was covered by the famous journalist [[Rook (Universe)|Rook]], and when Cheetor had trouble communicating in front of a camera, Rattrap happily took over for him. Quickly thereafter, the five Autobots' ship arrived, and its occupants were shocked at the changes Cybertron had gone through. Cheetor demonstrated to the older warriors that the planet's inhabitants had also gone through a metamorphosis by transforming into his technorganic cheetah mode.

Unfortunately, the events pleasantries were interrupted when the five Autobots and Blackarachnia and Silverbolt were abducted by [[Unicron]]. {{storylink|Abduction}} So began the [[Universe war|Universe conflict]], in which the [[Minions of Unicron]] battled the [[Children of Primus]], the latter led by a rejuvenated Optimus Primal. After Optimus Primal brought back the seven abducted Autobots and Maximals, plus a handful of other Transformers stranded in their universe, Cheetor accompanied them to the [[Oasis Research and Development Facility]]. As [[Ratchet (Universe)|Ratchet]] and [[Striker]] began research on Sideswipe to see if they could cure the [[Unicron virus|Unicron contamination]] they'd all suffered while in the [[Pit]], Cheetor expressed his doubts about Optimus Primal's return. Cheetor reasoned that being dead may have changed Primal, and Silverbolt added that it could all be a Unicron trick. Rattrap, surprisingly, was the one who reminded the two that this was Optimus-friggin'-Primal they were talking about. {{storylink|Homecoming (issue)|Homecoming}}

[[Image:Optimusprimaluniverseend.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Had to get a new body without the flying ability, huh?]]
The war continued, and Optimus Primal led Cheetor and several other Children of Primus against the forces of Unicron on countless occasions across several universes, but eventually, these interactions took a toll on Cheetor and the others. Contaminated by constant exposure to Unicron, Cheetor was afflicted with a nanotech "[[Unicron virus]]," which worsened with time. To keep from descending into madness or deactivation, Cheetor was rebuilt and repurified by Primal's [[Matrix of Purification]]. {{storylink|Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 9|''Beast Wars 10th Anniversary'' Optimus Primal profile}}

This conflict with Unicron went on for an unspecified amount of time, until one raiding party on the Chaos Bringer, which included Primal, Cheetor, and several others, when Unicron suddenly began to [[Unicron Singularity|dissolve]] beneath them. The Universe conflict finally resolved, Cheetor, [[Longhorn (Universe)|Longhorn]], and [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] were carried away by Optimus Primal through a portal to (presumably) their home. {{storylink|Revelations Part 2}}
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===''Beast Wars Metals'' comic===
[[Image:CheetasManga1.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Off to go train with Piccolo or something, I'm sure.]]
Following the [[Quantum surge]], Cheetor was upgraded into a [[Transmetal]] but left stranded on [[Earth|Energoa]] far, far away from the other [[Maximal]]s and believed dead by [[Rattrap]]. Following [[Optimus Primal]]'s return to life, Cheetor could be seen staring poetically at the [[Moon (moon)|moon]] from his distant location. {{storylink|Raise the Curtain for Beast Wars Metals!!}}
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===''Henkei! Henkei!'' pack-in comic===
[[Image:HenkeiCheetorLionKing.jpg|right|180px|thumb|The Cirrrcle of Liiiife...]]
After [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] and [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] stole [[Energon cube|energon cubes]] from [[Hound (G1)|Hound]], Cheetor appeared on the scene, defeated both of them and got the cubes back, getting the adoration of Hound and random fauna. Cheetor then went to live in a safari park. {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 8}}
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==Games==
===''Beast Wars: Transformers'' video game===
{{note|This game takes place in an alternate version of the first season of the [[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]] cartoon.}}
[[Image:Cheetor-beastmodescan.jpg‎|right|thumb|200px|My eyes are up here!]]
Upon arriving on prehistoric Earth, the dangers of Energon radiation forced the Maximals and Predacons to take on beast alternate forms. "Cheetor" promptly grabbed a cheetah by its underbelly, hoisted it up to his optics, and scanned the creature's molecular structure. The indignant cheetah could do nothing but silently ask the robot "Do you mind?" Cheetor transformed into his new organic cheetah mode and darted into Predacon territory. Unfortunately, Cheetor was spotted by [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]], and the two battled until they were forced to return to their beast modes to avoid Energon radiation damage. {{storylink|Beast Wars: Transformers video game advertising comic}}

{{Note|Cheetor is a playable character in the Maximal mode of this game for normal gameplay.}}
[[Image:Beastwarspsx-Cheetorstats.jpg|left|thumb|200px|I lost weight! Can you tell?]]

All of the Beast Wars combatants had managed to construct personal bases, customized to their personal tastes, due to the extended duration of the war. Cheetor's own base featured sphinx-like statues bearing his likeness and colour scheme.

Cheetor warred against both the Predacons and the evil extra-dimensional aliens dubbed the [[Skriix]].
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{{Note|Due to the nature of this game, a player may select various individual characters to perform the feats required in every level, and complete the game's narrative. Thus, any playable Maximal can fill the role of protagonist in Maximal Mode, and any playable Predacon can fill the role of protagonist in Predacon Mode. As such, each character's page only lists said character's actions when they fill the role of antagonist during gameplay. To view the various feats Cheetor can accomplish throughout gameplay in Maximal Mode, it is told on the pages of the [[Megatron (BW)|several]] [[Scorponok (BW)|Predacons]] [[Tarantulas (BW)|included]] [[Blackarachnia (BW)|as]] [[Inferno (BW)|opponents]] in this game, as well as the game's main antagonists, the [[Skriix]], wherein Cheetor fills the role of the nameless Maximal. To view the plot as a whole view the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (video game)]] page.}}
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===''Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals'' video game===
{{note|This game takes place in an alternate version of the second season of the [[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]] cartoon.}}
[[Image:Beastwarstransmetalsgame-cheetorstats.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Glitch, game stats!]]
''Voice actor:'' [[Ian James Corlett]] (English), ??? (Japanese)

During a decisive battle, Cheetor witnessed Optimus being badly injured. Cheetor’s reaction was to charge into battle with unmatched fury, turning the tide of the war in favor of the Maximals. Thanks to this victory, the Maximals eventually overpowered the Predacons, and established peace on the planet. Following the battle, Optimus and Cheetor had this heartwarming exchange;

[[Image:N64Cheetors.jpg|thumb|300px|SECRET COLORS CHEETOR and also Cheetor's Tigatron cosplay.]]

Optimus: "You showed a lot of potential out there. Someday you might make one prime leader."
Cheetor replied: "Sorry Bigbot, but that's your department... But who knows? Maybe in another universe!" {{storylink|Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals (N64)|Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals}}

He liked to pelvic thrust, arms around the back of his neck, after each victory. ''Hello,'' pussycat.

{{note|Each character possessed an alternate ending, displayed if the Nintendo 64 game was beaten with said character. Each character has only their own ending listed on their pages, see the other characters' pages for Cheetor's fate in those outcomes.}}

{{note|A series of unusual decisions was made regarding Cheetor and Tigatron in the Nintendo 64 game's localization. In the Japanese version of the game, Cheetor had a red-tinged set of "Player 2" colors and an unlockable "Player 3" color scheme obviously based on Tigatron. The North American version of the game added Tigatron as a playable character... but instead of reassigning the pre-existing "Player 3" colors to him, a new color scheme that ''[[:Image:N64Tigatron.jpg|looked less like Tigatron]]'' was created for him. Furthermore, Cheetor's Japanese "Player 2" colors were eliminated entirely and his original Tigatron-themed colors were '''kept'''... resulting not only in two primarily white Transmetal Cheetor models in one game, but a Tigatron who looked less like himself than Cheetor did.}}
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===''Duel Fight Transformers Beast Wars: Beast Warriors' Strongest Decisive Battle'' video game===
[[Image:DuelFight-Cheetor.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Adolescence is so unstable.]]
Cheetor became involved in a series of one-on-one battles when the discovery of a super-powerful [[Energon crystal]] on [[Earth]] leads several Maximals and Predacons to attempt obtaining the crystal's powers for their own gain.

Cheetor could also partake in various other tasks, such as a mission to break a boulder to reveal an energon crystal hidden within before sundown, using a block in a mission to defend himself against various incoming projectiles, and missions to run across a pit-riddled field, sometimes involving hideously large bacteria he had to fend off.

Cheetor eventually defeated [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]], the last bot standing between the crystal and himself. Once the crystal was in his possession, Cheetor absorbed its power, becoming the most powerful of the Maximal. This allowed him to soar through the ranks and become [[Supreme Commander]]. This position was more then he could handle, however, and he abandoned his post after only three days. {{storylink|Duel Fight Transformers Beast Wars: Beast Warriors' Strongest Decisive Battle}}
{{note|Each character possessed an alternate ending, displayed if the game was beaten with said character. Each character has only their own ending listed on their pages, see the other characters' pages for Cheetor's fate in those outcomes.}}
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===3D Battle-Card Game===
Cheetor, in his Transmetal 2 body, was one of Optimus's many allies in a fight against [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s own army, in what might possibly have been an inter-universe battle. {{storylink|3D Battle-Card Game#Energon Wars expansion|Energon Wars Expansion Set}}
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==Toys==
{{main|Cheetor (BW)/toys}}

==Notes==
* Cheetor fired the first shots of the Beast Wars. First he shot at [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]], unprovoked, and again at [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] while [[Optimus Primal|Optimus]] was attempting to negotiate.

* Cheetor has the first line in the show Beast Wars; he also has the last line in the show Beast Machines, closing the arc of the two shows in a coherent development of Cheetor as a young rookie to Cheetor as commander.

* Cheetor and [[Tigatron]] are the only characters in ''[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' who are definitely [[Scale|in the correct scale]] to the life form they have adopted as a beast mode, since Cheetor in specific was seen near a real cheetah in the pilot episode. As a result, Cheetor and Tigatron have the odd distinction of being the yardstick by which other ''Beast Wars'' characters' scale inconsistencies can be measured.

* [[Mainframe Entertainment]]'s original plan for [[Transmetal]] Cheetor was to have his face mature over the course of the season, from a big-eared, wide-eyed, rounded face into one close to the toy. Also, he would have had a "Hero's Heart" which glowed after completing brave or heroic feats, somewhat akin to the classic anime character Astro Boy. Due to time and financial restrictions, none of these concepts panned out. Thankfully. His toy, however, DOES have a molded heart on the abdomen.

[[Image:CheetorGameBoyColor1.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I wonder what Beast Machines Cheetor thinks of this artwork?]]
* ''[[Comic Bom Bom]]'' advertisements for the Game Boy Color's ''[[Duel Fight Transformers Beast Wars: Beast Warriors' Strongest Decisive Battle]]'' feature Cheetor with a slightly different (and much happier) head than the version which appeared in the game's instruction manual. Both are sickeningly cute, though.

* Cheetor has the somewhat dubious honour of being the only Maximal [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] ''never'' refers to by name on the show.

[[Image:CheetorBMconcept.jpg|right|300px|thumb| Things usually do look more badass in concept art.]]
* Though most early artwork for ''Beast Machines'' character designs were very different from the final product, Cheetor's design seems to have changed very little, with only the green being downplayed in his color scheme.

* In "[[Bee in the City]]", ''Beast Wars'' Megatron accidentally calls [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] "Cheetor", the first instance of a running gag where the plucky young yellow kid-appeal bot is called by another kid-appeal bot's name.
** This is also ironic in being the first and only time his name is spoken by Megatron.

*In the Japanese dub of the ''[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon and in the ''[[Beast Wars Metals (manga)|Beast Wars Metals]]'' manga, Cheetor had the quirk of ending nearly every sentence in a long, stressed "Jā-n", which is supposed to sound like a cute kitty growl. He maintains it in the [[Henkei! Henkei! (pack-in comic)|''Henkei'' pack-in comic]] that was packaged with him and [[Hound (G1)#Henkei! Henkei!|Hound]].

* According to ''[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II]]'', Cheetor likes pie.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Cheetus''' or '''Cheetas''' (チータス ''Chītasu'')<ref>The "Cheetus" [[Romanization]] was used on a Japanese ''Beast Wars'' [http://www18.tok2.com/home/jackhama/transformers/bwtcard_1/img/003.jpg trading card], and later reappeared in the opening sequence for the Japanese version of the PlayStation ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals (PS)|Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals]]'' fighting game. This spelling was used again in 2010 on the packaging for the ''[[Device Label]]'' Cheetor toy. Conversely, the ''[[Duel Fight Transformers Beast Wars: Beast Warriors' Strongest Decisive Battle Complete Manual]]'', the official strategy guide for ''[[Duel Fight Transformers Beast Wars: Beast Warriors' Strongest Decisive Battle]]'' video game, used "Cheetas". </ref>

*''French:'' '''Vélocitor''' (cartoon)<ref>Derived from "vélocité," which means "speed".</ref>
*''Indonesian:'' '''Sidor'''
*''Italian:'' '''Ghepard''', '''Metal Ghepard''' (Transmetal)
*''Mandarin:'' '''Bàu-tz''' (Taiwan, 豹子, "Cheetah"), '''Hūa Bàu''' (Taiwan ''Beast Machines'', 花豹, "Leopard")
*''Polish:'' '''Gepardon'''
*''Spanish:'' '''Chitor''', '''Chitah''' (America, "Cheetah")

==References==
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Sentinel Prime (G1)

2011-06-12T16:55:06Z

86.147.176.224:

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:''Sentinel Prime was an [[Autobot]] leader in the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
[[Image:Sentinel prime lou.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Well, shoot, who wants the Matrix?]]
'''Sentinel Prime''' was [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime's]] immediate predecessor as [[Prime (rank)|Autobot leader]]. ([[Alpha Trion (G1)|Except when]] [[Zeta Prime|he isn't]].)

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Jack Angel]] (English), ? (Japanese)

[[Image:Aubotot gladiator.jpg|right|250px|thumb|You've got the pre-Touch. You've got the pre-Power. Pre-Yeah.]]

'''Sentinel Major''' was originally one of the Quintessons' slave robots on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] around twelve million years ago. Unusual among his consumer goods brethren, Sentinel Major was equipped for combat and was forced to participate in [[Gladiatorial combat|gladiatorial games]] for the Quintessons' amusement, wielding a spiked ball-and-chain weapon and a tire-shaped shield. He was once defeated in battle by [[Prima]], who attacked their Quintesson masters when their match was over, only to be destroyed himself.

Subsequently, the consumer goods robots rose up against the Quintessons in a rebellion that ultimately forced the aliens off the planet. Sentinel Major survived this clash, but he and the rest of his race—now dubbed "Autobots"—were robbed of any chance of peace when the military hardware robots, now known as "[[Decepticon]]s", set their sights on conquering Cybertron for themselves. Two [[Guardian Prime|Autobot]] [[Zeta Prime|leaders]] fell during the war that ensued, and Sentinel Major inherited the Matrix of Leadership and became Sentinel Prime, leader of the Autobots. Under his leadership, the Autobots realized that they would never be able to defeat the Decepticons with firepower, and they turned instead to stealth, reconfiguring their bodies to be able to [[transform]] into other forms. With the power of his new ability, Sentinel Prime defeated the [[Early Decepticon leader|Decepticons' leader]], and the Autobots won the war.

[[Image:Aubotot gladiator vehicle.jpg|left|180px|thumb|He transforms into Rhi, the forgotten Beast Rider.]]

The ensuing period of peace was known as the [[Golden Age of Cybertron]], but, around nine million years BC, the Decepticon threat re-emerged when they too adopted transformation, and coupled it with robot-mode flight powers. One of the first of this new breed of Decepticons, the malevolent Megatron, killed Sentinel Prime in combat. As he died, the Sentinel Prime handed off the Matrix to [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]], who kept it safe until the emergence of the next Autobot leader, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]].

When [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]] journeyed into the Matrix in 2005, Sentinel Prime was the sixth guide he encountered. Sentinel Prime recounted the development of transformation, the Autobot victory in the war and the rise of Megatron. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4}}
{{-}}

===Marvel Comics continuity===
Sentinel Prime is mentioned frequently in the recitation of Primes before Optimus, but little or nothing is known of him.

{{note|The retelling of [[Unicron]]'s origin in the UK comics included a brief glimpse of a dying Matrix bearer passing the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to Optimus Prime. However, as he is unnamed, the only way we can presume this being is Sentinel Prime is because, as we are told later, Sentinel Prime was the leader before Optimus.}}

===Dreamwave comics continuity===
{{cleanup|June 2010|The text here doesn't seem to fit our established style.}}

:'' Sentinel Prime's biggest shortcoming is that he leads with his head, a peacetime leader in a time of war. His successor, Optimus Prime, leads with his heart, backed by his fists— a much more suitable combination.''

Sentinel Prime was Autobot leader for the first 500,000 years of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]]. More physically massive than Optimus Prime, Sentinel Prime's armor was made of [[trithyllium]] alloy impregnated with irradiated carbon fibers, unbreakable short of a precisely-aimed point-blank shot.

Sentinel Prime's primary weapons were his swiveling shoulder cannons, capable of firing a variety of specialized payloads including concussive and shrapnel-needle shells, and gyro-inhibiting and magnetic inducer shells. (Disruptive warheads which foul an opponent's systems.) He was also armed with a solar-energy rifle and an energon-charged sword.

Sentinel Prime used an [[electro-disrupter]], a device capable of projecting several copies of his image, to disorient his opponents in battle. When interrupted, electro-disrupter images de-rez, leaving a visible path back to the real projector. Because using direct attacks would reveal which image was the real Sentinel Prime, he must limit himself to indirect weapons like shrapnel shells when using it.

Sentinel Prime's only physical weakness was his shoulder-cannons. A direct hit down their barrel could cause the ammunition inside to explode, causing catastrophic damage. To minimize that risk, he swivels the cannons to his back except when about to fire<ref>Nearly all of his technical specifications come from descriptions found in the [[Keepers Trilogy]].</ref>.

[[Image:Sentinel prime dw.jpg|right|180px|thumb|"Marley was dead to begin with..."]]
8.2 million years ago, Sentinel Prime went to reason with [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], seeking to reach him with sermon and doctrine. He failed and was tortured and destroyed by Megatron on the battlefields of [[Tyrest (city-state)|Tyrest]]. {{storylink|Transformers: The Ultimate Guide}} Megatron was chagrined to discover that Sentinel Prime (suspecting he might be killed) had not brought the Matrix with him into battle. {{storylink|The War Within issue 1|The War Within #1}}

====The Keepers Trilogy====
The Matrix used a vision of Sentinel Prime to strengthen Optimus Prime's resolve during a battle with Megatron by confronting him with the claim that Megatron had chosen Optimus to be Prime, knowing that he was weak. Megatron's alleged influence over the Prime selection process was never substantiated.

The [[Keeper (species)|Keepers]] subsequently created a robotic duplicate of Sentinel Prime to confuse Optimus and undermine his confidence. Though possessing all of Sentinel Prime's considerable abilities, Optimus eventually realized that the duplicate had been created from his own memories of Sentinel Prime, and was incapable of doing anything ''new''. Optimus destroyed the duplicate of Sentinel Prime, having largely overcome his own doubts about his fitness to be Autobot leader. {{storylink|Hardwired}}
{{-}}

===IDW comics continuity===
[[Image:IDWSent.gif|left|120px|thumb|Do I look pacifistic enough yet?]]
Sentinel Prime assumed office sometime after the disappearance of [[Nova Prime]] into the [[Benzuli Expanse]]. It is unknown if any Primes existed between Nova and Sentinel.

[[Image:IDWSentface.gif|right|150px|thumb|That comes in "Optimus Prime" and "Marvel Comics" inspired varieties...]]
In the ancient past of Cybertron's peacetime, Sentinel Prime operated out of the [[Security Services Headquarters]] in [[Kaon]], generally regarded as "the worst place on Cybertron." Prime had much disdain for government authority, viewing the ruling [[Senate|Senators]] to be spoiled whiners. He worked alongside [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], his [[Second-in-command|lieutenant]]. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 1|Megatron Origin #1}}

After a surge in illegal [[Gladiatorial combat|gladiatorial bloodsports]], he assigned [[Bumper (G1)|Bumper]] and [[Fastback (G1)|Fastback]] to stake out one of the sites associated with the matches as part of a dragnet. Unfortunately, their communications were jammed by [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] just prior to their untimely demises. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 2|Megatron Origin #2}}

Sentinel Prime vowed not to let their deaths be in vain, and at their funeral, the Autobot leader urged others to let their deaths be a call to arms. Eventually, after Senator [[Decimus]] was kidnapped by the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]] at Megatron's orders, Sentinel Prime led a raid on Megatron's base. They captured Megatron and most of the others, but were forced to free Soundwave per Senate directive, much to Prime's frustration. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 3|Megatron Origin #3}}

[[Image:IDW SentPrime Apexarmor.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Okay, What about now?]]
When [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]'s "betrayal" led to the eventual eruption of the war, Sentinel Prime held the line at Kaon until he decided to take things to the next level. Thus, Prime returned with his massive "[[Apex Armor|Apex]]" mode, a battle-armor/super-powerful/more-firepower-than-god mode. It didn't make much of a difference, seeing as Megatron tore into it and pulled Prime off a cliff. Sentinel was defeated by Megatron. Afterwards, the former Prime's barely functional body was dumped into the middle of the Autobot forces. Prowl ordered a retreat. We would too.

The next morning, Megatron discussed his next moves with Soundwave... sitting on a throne made out of Prime's Apex armor. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 4|Megatron Origin #4}}

He was immediately succeeded by [[Zeta Prime]]. {{storylink|Spotlight: Blurr}}
{{--}}

==Notes==
*The original cartoon version of Sentinel Prime was never named in fiction. The character is referred to as "U-Haul Robot" in the dialogue script for "Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4" and was not given the name "Sentinel Prime" until ''[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II]]'' [[retcon|declared it so]] via an [[Ask Vector Prime]] entry. Likewise, the earlier appearance of "U-Haul Robot" was dubbed "Sentinel Major", giving him a pre-Matrix name.
*In a few instances throughout the third season of the [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|Generation 1 animated series]], the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicon]] [[Long Haul (G1)|Long Haul]] appears in the U-Haul Robot's color scheme. Guess [[AKOM]] got their "Hauls" mixed up!
*Any similarities between U-Haul Robot and [[Wikipedia:Spartacus|Spartacus]] are purely coincidental. No, really.
*The original IDW Sentinel Prime sketch included in "[[Spotlight: Optimus Prime]]" was clearly based on his first (and otherwise only) appearance in the Marvel comics panel shown above. Though his resemblance as drawn in ''Megatron Origin'' is less distinctly similar due to artistic interpretation and the helmet [[Alex Milne]] draws him wearing. He also definitely resembles, by and large, the Keepers description of the character, in that he is quite heavily armed. However the keen interest he shows in the use of those weapons and combat in general seem a stark contrast to the "peacetime leader unsuitable for war" portrayed in that continuity. IDW Sentinel is more likely to smash you with his [[Apex Armor]] than try to ply you with doctrine.
* G1 Sentinel Prime has yet to receive a toy of any kind. He did come close once. As revealed in the [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] roundtable panel at [[BotCon 2007]], the original concept for the convention-[[exclusive]] [[redeco]] of [[Cybertron Defense Team|Cybertron Defense]] [[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]] was Sentinel Prime. The mold DOES bear a decent resemblance to his IDW appearance, but in the end it was decided that [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] was a better choice for the mold (and likely for the [[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club (magazine)|ongoing club comic]] story).
* There is another ''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'' character called [[Sentinel Major]], who might be considered the incarnation of Sentinel Prime in [[Wings of Honor continuity|his own continuity]]. However, his design and role are obvious homages to ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]]. What to make of this is a matter of [[Talk:Sentinel Prime (G1)#Sentinel Major|some debate]].

==References==
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Sentinel Prime (G1)

2011-06-12T16:54:44Z

86.147.176.224:

{{disambig3|Sentinel Prime}}
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:''Sentinel Prime was an [[Autobot]] leader in the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
[[Image:Sentinel prime lou.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Well, shoot, who wants the Matrix?]]
'''Sentinel Prime''' was [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime's]] immediate predecessor as [[Prime (rank)|Autobot leader]]. ([[Alpha Trion (G1)|Except when]] [[Zeta Prime|he isn't]].)

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Jack Angel]] (English), ? (Japanese)

[[Image:Aubotot gladiator.jpg|right|250px|thumb|You've got the pre-Touch. You've got the pre-Power. Pre-Yeah.]]

'''Sentinel Major''' was originally one of the Quintessons' slave robots on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] around twelve million years ago. Unusual among his consumer goods brethren, Sentinel Major was equipped for combat and was forced to participate in [[Gladiatorial combat|gladiatorial games]] for the Quintessons' amusement, wielding a spiked ball-and-chain weapon and a tire-shaped shield. He was once defeated in battle by [[Prima]], who attacked their Quintesson masters when their match was over, only to be destroyed himself.

Subsequently, the consumer goods robots rose up against the Quintessons in a rebellion that ultimately forced the aliens off the planet. Sentinel Major survived this clash, but he and the rest of his race—now dubbed "Autobots"—were robbed of any chance of peace when the military hardware robots, now known as "[[Decepticon]]s", set their sights on conquering Cybertron for themselves. Two [[Guardian Prime|Autobot]] [[Zeta Prime|leaders]] fell during the war that ensued, and Sentinel Major inherited the Matrix of Leadership and became Sentinel Prime, leader of the Autobots. Under his leadership, the Autobots realized that they would never be able to defeat the Decepticons with firepower, and they turned instead to stealth, reconfiguring their bodies to be able to [[transform]] into other forms. With the power of his new ability, Sentinel Prime defeated the [[Early Decepticon leader|Decepticons' leader]], and the Autobots won the war.

[[Image:Aubotot gladiator vehicle.jpg|left|180px|thumb|He transforms into Rhi, the forgotten Beast Rider.]]

The ensuing period of peace was known as the [[Golden Age of Cybertron]], but, around nine million years BC, the Decepticon threat re-emerged when they too adopted transformation, and coupled it with robot-mode flight powers. One of the first of this new breed of Decepticons, the malevolent Megatron, killed Sentinel Prime in combat. As he died, the Sentinel Prime handed off the Matrix to [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]], who kept it safe until the emergence of the next Autobot leader, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]].

When [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]] journeyed into the Matrix in 2005, Sentinel Prime was the sixth guide he encountered. Sentinel Prime recounted the development of transformation, the Autobot victory in the war and the rise of Megatron. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4}}
{{-}}

===Marvel Comics continuity===
Sentinel Prime is mentioned frequently in the recitation of Primes before Optimus, but little or nothing is known of him.

{{note|The retelling of [[Unicron]]'s origin in the UK comics included a brief glimpse of a dying Matrix bearer passing the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to Optimus Prime. However, as he is unnamed, the only way we can presume this being is Sentinel Prime is because, as we are told later, Sentinel Prime was the leader before Optimus.}}

===Dreamwave comics continuity===
{{cleanup|June 2010|The text here doesn't seem to fit our established style.}}

:'' Sentinel Prime's biggest shortcoming is that he leads with his head, a peacetime leader in a time of war. His successor, Optimus Prime, leads with his heart, backed by his fists— a much more suitable combination.''

Sentinel Prime was Autobot leader for the first 500,000 years of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]]. More physically massive than Optimus Prime, Sentinel Prime's armor was made of [[trithyllium]] alloy impregnated with irradiated carbon fibers, unbreakable short of a precisely-aimed point-blank shot.

Sentinel Prime's primary weapons were his swiveling shoulder cannons, capable of firing a variety of specialized payloads including concussive and shrapnel-needle shells, and gyro-inhibiting and magnetic inducer shells. (Disruptive warheads which foul an opponent's systems.) He was also armed with a solar-energy rifle and an energon-charged sword.

Sentinel Prime used an [[electro-disrupter]], a device capable of projecting several copies of his image, to disorient his opponents in battle. When interrupted, electro-disrupter images de-rez, leaving a visible path back to the real projector. Because using direct attacks would reveal which image was the real Sentinel Prime, he must limit himself to indirect weapons like shrapnel shells when using it.

Sentinel Prime's only physical weakness was his shoulder-cannons. A direct hit down their barrel could cause the ammunition inside to explode, causing catastrophic damage. To minimize that risk, he swivels the cannons to his back except when about to fire<ref>Nearly all of his technical specifications come from descriptions found in the [[Keepers Trilogy]].</ref>.

[[Image:Sentinel prime dw.jpg|right|180px|thumb|"Marley was dead to begin with..."]]
8.2 million years ago, Sentinel Prime went to reason with [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], seeking to reach him with sermon and doctrine. He failed and was tortured and destroyed by Megatron on the battlefields of [[Tyrest (city-state)|Tyrest]]. {{storylink|Transformers: The Ultimate Guide}} Megatron was chagrined to discover that Sentinel Prime (suspecting he might be killed) had not brought the Matrix with him into battle. {{storylink|The War Within issue 1|The War Within #1}}

====The Keepers Trilogy====
The Matrix used a vision of Sentinel Prime to strengthen Optimus Prime's resolve during a battle with Megatron by confronting him with the claim that Megatron had chosen Optimus to be Prime, knowing that he was weak. Megatron's alleged influence over the Prime selection process was never substantiated.

The [[Keeper (species)|Keepers]] subsequently created a robotic duplicate of Sentinel Prime to confuse Optimus and undermine his confidence. Though possessing all of Sentinel Prime's considerable abilities, Optimus eventually realized that the duplicate had been created from his own memories of Sentinel Prime, and was incapable of doing anything ''new''. Optimus destroyed the duplicate of Sentinel Prime, having largely overcome his own doubts about his fitness to be Autobot leader. {{storylink|Hardwired}}
{{-}}

===IDW comics continuity===
[[Image:IDWSent.gif|left|120px|thumb|Do I look pacifistic enough yet?]]
Sentinel Prime assumed office sometime after the disappearance of [[Nova Prime]] into the [[Benzuli Expanse]]. It is unknown if any Primes existed between Nova and Sentinel.

[[Image:IDWSentface.gif|right|150px|thumb|That comes in "Optimus Prime" and "Marvel Comics" inspired varieties...]]
In the ancient past of Cybertron's peacetime, Sentinel Prime operated out of the [[Security Services Headquarters]] in [[Kaon]], generally regarded as "the worst place on Cybertron." Prime had much disdain for government authority, viewing the ruling [[Senate|Senators]] to be spoiled whiners. He worked alongside [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], his [[Second-in-command|lieutenant]]. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 1|Megatron Origin #1}}

After a surge in illegal [[Gladiatorial combat|gladiatorial bloodsports]], he assigned [[Bumper (G1)|Bumper]] and [[Fastback (G1)|Fastback]] to stake out one of the sites associated with the matches as part of a dragnet. Unfortunately, their communications were jammed by [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] just prior to their untimely demises. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 2|Megatron Origin #2}}

Sentinel Prime vowed not to let their deaths be in vain, and at their funeral, the Autobot leader urged others to let their deaths be a call to arms. Eventually, after Senator [[Decimus]] was kidnapped by the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]] at Megatron's orders, Sentinel Prime led a raid on Megatron's base. They captured Megatron and most of the others, but were forced to free Soundwave per Senate directive, much to Prime's frustration. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 3|Megatron Origin #3}}

[[Image:IDW SentPrime Apexarmor.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Okay, What about now?]]
When [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]'s "betrayal" led to the eventual eruption of the war, Sentinel Prime held the line at Kaon until he decided to take things to the next level. Thus, Prime returned with his massive "[[Apex Armor|Apex]]" mode, a battle-armor/super-powerful/more-firepower-than-god mode. It didn't make much of a difference, seeing as Megatron tore into it and pulled Prime off a cliff. Sentinel was defeated by Megatron. Afterwards, the former Prime's barely functional body was dumped into the middle of the Autobot forces. Prowl ordered a retreat. We would too.

The next morning, Megatron discussed his next moves with Soundwave... sitting on a throne made out of Prime's Apex armor. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 4|Megatron Origin #4}}

He was immediately succeeded by [[Zeta Prime]]. {{storylink|Spotlight: Blurr}}
{{--}}

==Notes==
*The original cartoon version of Sentinel Prime was never named in fiction. The character is referred to as "U-Haul Robot" in the dialogue script for "Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4" and was not given the name "Sentinel Prime" until ''[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II]]'' [[retcon|declared it so]] via an [[Ask Vector Prime]] entry. Likewise, the earlier appearance of "U-Haul Robot" was dubbed "Sentinel Major", giving him a pre-Matrix name.
*In a few instances throughout the third season of the [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|Generation 1 animated series]], the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicon]] [[Long Haul (G1)|Long Haul]] appears in the U-Haul Robot's color scheme. Guess [[AKOM]] got their "Hauls" mixed up!
*Any similarities between U-Haul Robot and [[Wikipedia:Spartacus|Spartacus]] are purely coincidental. No, really.
*The original IDW Sentinel Prime sketch included in "[[Spotlight: Optimus Prime]]" was clearly based on his first (and otherwise only) appearance in the Marvel comics panel shown above. Though his resemblance as drawn in ''Megatron Origin'' is less distinctly similar due to artistic interpretation and the helmet [[Alex Milne]] draws him wearing. He also definitely resembles, by and large, the Keepers description of the character, in that he is quite heavily armed. However the keen interest he shows in the use of those weapons and combat in general seem a stark contrast to the "peacetime leader unsuitable for war" portrayed in that continuity. IDW Sentinel is more likely to smash you with his [[Apex Armor]] than try to ply you with doctrine.
* G1 Sentinel Prime has yet to receive a toy of any kind. He did come close once. As revealed in the [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] roundtable panel at [[BotCon 2007]], the original concept for the convention-[[exclusive]] [[redeco]] of [[Cybertron Defense Team|Cybertron Defense]] [[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]] was Sentinel Prime. The mold DOES bear a decent resemblance to his IDW appearance, but in the end it was decided that [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] was a better choice for the mold (and likely for the [[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club (magazine)|ongoing club comic]] story).
* There is another ''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'' character called [[Sentinel Major]], who might be considered the incarnation of Sentinel Prime in [[Wings of Honor continuity|his own continuity]]. However, his design and role are obvious homages to ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]]. What to make of this is a matter of [[Talk:Sentinel Prime (G1)#Sentinel Major|some debate]].

==References==
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Onyx Primal

2011-06-12T16:40:46Z

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:''Onyx Primal is both a [[Maximal]] and a [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] from the [[Beast Wars (franchise)|Beast Wars]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]]. He is evidently also known as '''Blackie'''.''

[[Image:Onyxprimal.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I'm whoever you want me to be, baby.]]
At one time, '''Onyx Primal''' was one of the [[Tripredacus Council]]'s more promising assassins, even if he was given to overblown melodrama. His movements are utterly silent, and in bat mode his "stealth cloak" can shield him from most scanners. A smug glory-hog, Onyx quickly takes credit for any nearby successes and is even quicker to shuffle blame for his failures to others.

However, a falling-out with the Predacons has left him with little choice but to join the Maximals. He doesn't like them, and they don't like him, but neither camp is in much position to refuse each others' help. He's an accomplished spy and assassin, though as a Maximal he has little opportunity to practice the latter skill.

{{quote|...and I will strike down with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers, and you will know my name is Onyx when I lay my vengeance upon thee.|For realsies, Onyx Primal's original motto}}

==Fiction==
===3H comics===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Garry Chalk]] (English)

[[Image:Visitations.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Over here! Over ''here''! No, don't look at Apelinq ''OVER HERE!'']]
Onyx Primal and [[Packrat]] were in Predacon territory investigating a fallen meteorite when they stumbled across a Predacon "plot device." They fought over the artifact amongst themselves but were immediately attacked by [[Vice Grip]] and [[Fractyl]]. After Onyx Primal stashed the artifact in a rock crevice, a [[Apelinq|shadowy figure]] stole it and vanished.

The Predacons continued their attack, but [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]] and [[Rattrap]] appeared overhead to rescue the Maximals, even though they were mere "repaints." Vice Grip and Fractyl's defeat was followed by [[Optimus Primal]]'s arrival. Onyx Primal and Packrat argued over whose fault it was the artifact was lost.

Ultimately, they blamed [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]. {{storylink|Visitations}}
{{--}}

==Toys==
===Beast Wars===
[[Image:Batmanprimal.jpg|right|180px|thumb|I am vengeance. I am the night.]]
*'''Onyx Primal''' (Basic, 1996/1997)

: A [[redeco]] of the Basic-class [[Optimus Primal/toys|Optimus Primal]] toy, Onyx transforms from a large vampire bat to robot mode with a one-step spring-loaded transformation. He has two scimitars, stored on the underside of his wings. He is notable for being the first Transformers convention-exclusive toy specifically cast in new plastic colors (the previous years' exclusive was only a [[Repaint|repaint]], using the same plastics as one of the retail versions of the mold).

: Two different versions of Onyx were available as [[BotCon 1996]] [[Exclusive|exclusives]]. The standard version was available to attendees and pre-registrants. However, in a move never duplicated by later convention organizers, a "Dealer Exclusive" version of Onyx was available only to -of course- dealers. This version came in an almost solid-black box, and the only difference in the toy itself is the gold text "BOTCON '96 DEALER EXCLUSIVE" [[tampograph]]ed on his back. A "VIP" (Very Important Predicon {{sic}}) packaging variant was given to guests of the convention; the toy inside was the same as the normal one.

: Reportedly, BotCon '96 organizers [[Men in Black]] had to have a 1700 Onyx Primals produced in order to have them at all, and as such ended up with a ''lot'' of overstock. So much that for their unofficial convention "TransCon '97", they offered attendees Onyx Primal again. And in hotel rooms "coincidentally" within the facilities for later BotCons.

==Notes==
* The original Onyx Primal bio is a pretty direct lift of [[Wikipedia:Samuel L. Jackson|Samuel L. Jackson]]'s character from the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Pulp Fiction (film)|Pulp Fiction]]'' reciting Bible scripture. This was not the only slapped-on ''Pulp Fiction'' reference to happen in BC'96 material.

* Onyx Primal's faction is generally in flux.
** The original [[BotCon 1996]] bio said Onyx was a Predacon assassin.
** In 1998, Hasbro/Kenner decided retroactively that Onyx was a Maximal, reportedly due to the original use of the mold being a Maximal. (This also resulted in the "Noble Predacon" [[Sandstorm (BW)|Sandstorm]] for [[BotCon 1999]].) This change prompted a second bio, crafted for the BotConBeyond site (linked below), and it seemed to recast Onyx Primal as a deeply flawed individual, a transparent critique of the individuals who created him. The 1998 voice actor script reading, "[[Visitations]]," likeways portrayed him as a Maximal.
** A decade later, ''[[Beast Wars Sourcebook]]'' presented Onyx as a Predacon assassin again, this time as a dark creature of the night.

* Garry Chalk's voice for Onyx was based loosely on [[The Honeymooners|Jackie Gleason]], to go along with [[Scott McNeil]]'s Art Carney voice for [[Packrat]].

* According to the toy database section of ''[[Beast Wars Universe]]'', Onyx Primal was given the alternative name "Blackie" because someone at [[Men in Black]] was a fan of the ''[[Microman]]'' franchise. [http://www.microforever.com/m11x.htm M114 Blacky] was a black and yellow Microman from 1975 who had "great knowledge of universal science".

* ''Beast Wars Universe'' goes on to say that Onyx Primal's [[Black repaint|black color scheme]] was chosen by his designer to enhance the mold's [[Optimus_Primal/toys#Notes|inherent resemblance]] to [[Wikipedia:Batman|Batman]], an action figure license also held at the time by [[Kenner]].

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1996/Maximal/OnyxPrimal/onyxprimal.htm Onyx Primal at TFU.info]
*[http://www.botcon.com/archive/story/characters/onyxprimal.html BotConBeyond's Onyx Primal profile, archived at BotCon.com]

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Demolishor (Armada)

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:''Demolishor is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Demolishor-AR-DVD.jpg|right|300px|thumb|They were delicious.]]
'''Demolishor''' is a military expert who serves [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] through the [[Unicron Battles]]. He is a very trusted but sometimes very ''dim'' soldier who holds very true-to-[[spark]] values concerning loyalty and devotion to the Decepticon cause. These values sometimes collide with Megatron's ultimately selfish goals, and Demolishor finds himself struggling to reconcile the two.

Ultimately, though, Demolishor never abandons his devotion to the Decepticons as a whole, even if his faith in their leader is shattered.

His [[Mini-Con]] partner is [[Blackout (Armada)|Blackout]].

==Fiction==
===Cartoon continuity===
====''Armada'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Alvin Sanders]] (English), [[Kōji Yusa]] (Japanese), [[Anders Öjebo]] (Swedish)

[[Image:Palace-Reeeeeaaaach!.jpg|right|200px|thumb|You don't wanna know what's going on below.]]
Demolishor served as Megatron's right-hand military expert until the arrival of [[Thrust (Armada)|Thrust]], although he often competed with [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]] for the title. He was often dense and simple-minded, but very devoted to his cause. Perhaps the most thoughtful action of Demolishor's during this time was to tear through a door Megatron had sealed in order to stop Megatron from destroying Starscream, whom Demolishor valued as a Decepticon ally. Demolishor was seriously damaged by [[Nemesis Prime (Armada)|Nemesis Prime]], only to be reformatted into a red/white color scheme via [[Powerlinx]] energy. He would go on to serve in the United Armada against [[Unicron]].

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====''Energon'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Alvin Sanders]] (English), [[Kōji Yusa]] (Japanese), [[Anders Öjebo]] (Swedish), [[Christoph Jablonka]] (German)

[[Image:Demolishor MegSword.jpg|left|180px|thumb|And so Demolishor became the king of England.]]
Following the end of the [[Unicron Battles]], Megatron's death saw the alliance between the Decepticons and Autobots persist. With the establishment of [[Cybertron City (city)|Cybertron Cities]] to mine [[Energon (Energon)|energon]] on Earth, Demolishor was assigned to [[Ocean City]], where he guarded the city's main gate. Despite his frequent complaints and arguments with the humans and Autobots who lived in the city, Demolishor developed something of a friendship with his new allies and grew into his role. Of particular note was his bickering relationship with the inexperienced [[Ironhide (Energon)|Ironhide]], who didn't trust him for being a Decepticon, and whom he ridiculed in return for being a greenhorn. {{storylink|Cybertron City (episode)|Cybertron City}}

In the year 2020, when the alien being [[Alpha Quintesson]] created the [[Terrorcon (Energon)|Terrorcons]] to steal energon for him, he armed their leader, [[Scorponok (Energon)|Scorponok]], with a sword forged from Megatron's [[spark]]. During a battle at [[Plains City]], the sword was knocked aside and landed in the ground in front of Demolishor, but he could not bring himself to take hold of the weapon. The chance to return to his Decepticon nature versus his new role amongst the Autobots left him conflicted, unsure of what he truly wanted in life. {{storylink|Megatron's Sword}}

Demolishor's dilemma continued when Megatron returned to life and laid siege to Ocean City. {{storylink|Megatron Resurrected}} When Megatron appeared before him, Demolishor trained his guns on him, struggling to make a decision as Megatron continually taunted him. Eventually, Demolishor caved in and rejoined the Decepticons, departing with Megatron for his headquarters within the inactive corpse of [[Unicron]]. Despite having made this decision, Demolishor's experiences had left him a changed 'bot, and he would be heard to caution Megatron on the frailties of humans. {{storylink|Megatron Raid}}

Not longer thereafter, Demolishor participated in a Decepticon attack on the Autobot ship the ''[[Miranda II]]'', which activated its personal [[energon grid]] defense system during the battle. Megatron was caught directly in the path of the grid, galvanizing Demolishor into making a final, fateful decision: He pushed his leader out of the way and took the force of the grid's blast himself. Oddly, Demolishor blamed Optimus for what happened to him and exploded. Nobody seemed to mourn the loss. (They do in the Japanese version, but this was altered in the English dub.) {{storylink|Go for Unicron!}}

Demolishor's body was destroyed, but his spark was salvaged by Megatron, who implanted it within a new body. Megatron used his Unicron-derived powers to wipe Demolishor's memory, removing any trace of his conflicted nature and degenerating him into a simple-minded, ape-like creature, easily excited and prone to grunting and jumping around. {{storylink|The Return of Demolishor}} Demolishor retained his friendship with [[Cyclonus (Armada)|Cyclonus]], now Snow Cat, to whose level of intelligence he was now much closer. There was occasional cuddling. In the end, Demolishor, along with Snow Cat, did not follow Megatron into the sun. {{storylink|The Sun}}

====''Cybertron''====
Somehow magically back in his original body (no word on whether his mentality recovered as well), Demolishor was left behind on Cybertron during the planetary evacuation, but has kept himself busy by fighting off the [[Scrapmetal (race)|Scrapmetal]] horde. Demolishor has heard rumors that Megatron has once again returned from the dead, but hopes it is not true, as he enjoys not being pushed around by his commander for once. {{storylink|#Cybertron|Demolishor's ''Cybertron'' toy bio}}

===Dreamwave comic continuity===
====Dreamwave ''Armada'' comic====
Demolishor was part of Megatron's initial strike force on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], and devastated [[Mini-Con Sector|Mini-Con Village C52]] alongside [[Cyclonus (Armada)|Cyclonus]]. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 1|Armada #1}} Powered by [[Blackout (Armada)|Blackout]], he also participated in the assault on and devastation of [[Cyber City]]. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 2|Armada #2}}

[[Image:DWArmada5_Demolishor_whatmakeshumanstick.jpg|thumb|300px|]]

Millions of years later, when a Mini-Con signal was broadcast from Earth, the Decepticons picked it up and quickly made plans to travel to Earth. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 3|Armada #3}} Upon arrival, Demolishor, Cyclonus and [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]] broke into a [[human]] military base, where Demolishor scanned a tank for his new [[alternate mode]] (though the resulting tank mode wasn't particularly close to the source). {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 4|Armada #4}} While the other Decepticons began fighting the Autobots who had followed them to Earth, Demolishor ambushed the [[Street Action Mini-Con Team (Armada)|Street Action Mini-Con Team]], [[Sparkplug (Armada)|Sparkplug]] and three human kids. He captured the Mini-Cons and expressed interest in taking the humans apart to see where all their courage came from. Then four other Mini-Cons swarmed his face and shattered his targeting reticle "eyepatch". {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 5|Armada #5}}

[[Image:WorldsCollide2_Demolishor_vs_SmokescreenScavenger.jpg|thumb|left|250px|]]

After the Decepticons successfully captured the [[Air Defense Mini-Con Team (Armada)|Air Defense Mini-Con Team]], Demolishor helped bring them back to the Decepticon base at [[Silver Ridge]]. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 6|Armada #6}} He later participated in the attack on the [[Autobase (Armada)|Autobot base]], but didn't do much other than stand around and take offense to Starscream's claims that Megatron didn't need any underlings when he had the [[Star Saber (Armada)|Star Saber]]. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 7|Armada #7}} When the Decepticons' Mini-Cons escaped, Demolishor and the others pursued them to [[Kansas]], where they fired impotently on a [[Mini-Con Ark|large object]] that was stealing all of Earth's Mini-Cons. They were then distracted by the arrival of several Autobots, and could only watch as the object rocketed off into space. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 8|Armada #8}} After figuring out that the Mini-Cons had ended up on the [[Moon (moon)|Moon]], the Decepticons chased after their precious power-ups. As Demolishor was the only Decepticon incapable of flight (Megatron got temporary rocket thrusters), he was left behind to guard the base. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 9|Armada #9}} He wasn't very good at it, though, and was beaten up by Autobots who wanted to use the Decepticons' [[space bridge]]. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 10|Armada #10}}

When said space bridge stopped working some time later, Megatron ordered Demolishor and Starscream to fix it. Neither of them knew how. {{storylink|Worlds Collide, Part 1 of 4}} The Decepticons later learned that [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] had gone missing, and they seized the opportunity to perform an all-out assault on the Autobots. Demolishor found himself facing down [[Scavenger (Armada)|Scavenger]] and [[Smokescreen (Armada)|Smokescreen]] on a thin mountain road, and decided to play a game of chicken with them. He won, as both Autobots swerved away and fell off the road, where Smokescreen was seriously injured by Megatron. Shortly afterwards, their winning streak was interrupted by a [[Galvatron (G1)|mysterious powerful Transformer]] who knocked out Demolishor, Cyclonus and Starscream in short order. {{storylink|Worlds Collide, Part 2 of 4}} As it turned out, the stranger had been a [[Herald of Unicron|Herald]] of [[Unicron]], who was on his way to destroy Cybertron. The Decepticons were forced to ally themselves with the Autobots and return to their home planet in order to fight him off. Demolishor survived the battle with Unicron and was seen among the crowds of cheering Transformers in the aftermath. {{storylink|The End}}
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====''Energon'' comic====
[[Image:StarscreamEnergon-Multiplicity3.jpg|thumb|right|200px|]]
Ten years after the battle with Unicron, his [[Unicron's Four Horsemen|Four Horsemen]] attacked Cybertron. Demolishor was among the Transformers called in as reinforcements against this new threat. {{storylink|What Lies Beneath, Part Two}} Some time later, he was stationed at the [[Energon (fuel)|energon]] ore processing plant [[Deltos-Five]] when its systems started going haywire. Grumbling that [[Thrust (Armada)|Thrust]] had left him to deal with technical difficulties while ''he'' got to have fun fighting [[Terrorcon (Energon)|Terrorcons]] on Earth, Demolishor made his way into the facility, where he was ambushed by what appeared to be the ghost of Starscream. {{storylink|Multiplicity, Pt. 3}}

{{note|Due to Dreamwave's subsequent bankruptcy, it was never revealed what Starscream did to Demolishor. According to solicitations for several [[Unreleased Dreamwave issues|unreleased ''Energon'' issues]], he was to return in an all-new and upgraded form in ''Energon'' #32. [[Simon Furman]] eventually released the plots of the unreleased ''Energon'' issues on his blog. It was revealed that Demolisher was indeed upgraded to his ''Energon'' body, and tasked by [[Alpha Quintesson]] to kidnap [[Kicker Jones|Kicker]].{{storylink|Armageddon Part 1}} He is pursued by Rad, [[Grimlock (Energon)|Grimlock]] and [[Swoop (Energon)|Swoop]], and assisted by Carlos and Alexis.{{storylink|Armageddon Part 2}} The rescue team is boosted by [[Wing Saber (Energon)|Wing Saber]], [[Cliffjumper (Energon)|Cliffjumper]] and [[Rodimus (Energon)|Rodimus]], who tracked down Demolishor and the captive Kicker in [[Mexico]]. The Autobots battled Demolisher while Rad freed Kicker.{{storylink|Armageddon Part 4}} Once free, Kicker used his special powers to channel the energy of all the Energon on Earth, using it to utterly destroy Demolishor.{{storylink|Armageddon Part 5}}}}
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===Panini ''Armada'' comic===
Demolishor was among the Decepticons who had a great time kidnapping Mini-Cons back when the war broke out. {{storylink|Panini Armada issue 9|Counter-Strike!}}

In modern day, he was sent to [[Earth]] to search for escaped Mini-Cons alongside [[Cyclonus (Armada)|Cyclonus]] and [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]]. Demolishor was apparently still searching elsewhere when the rest of the Decepticons were beaten up by the Autobots and fled. {{storylink|Panini Armada issue 2|Friends and Foes!}} Eventually, he sawed his way into the wreckage of the Mini-Cons' ship, as he had orders from [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] to retrieve its [[locator log]]. He was surprised to find the [[Street Action Mini-Con Team (Armada)|Street Action Team]] in the ship, and wasn't sure what to do with the situation. Deciding that the best course of action was violence, he began blasting the Mini-Cons but was distracted when [[Rad White]] grabbed the locator log and ran for it. Demolishor followed in his tank mode, only to drive straight into an unstable part of the cave, where the vibrations from his treads caused the hidden log to explode and collapse the cave on top of him. {{storylink|Panini Armada issue 3|Deep Trouble!}}

Some time later, Demolishor participated in an attack on the Autobots when they were trying to send their Mini-Cons back to Cybertron. {{storylink|Panini Armada issue 4|No Way Back!}} He and Cyclonus were then sent to search for Mini-Cons on the [[Moon (moon)|Moon]]. The Autobots [[Smokescreen (Armada)|Smokescreen]] and [[Scavenger (Armada)|Scavenger]] followed them, but were no match for the Mini-Con-augmented Decepticons. Demolishor shot Smokescreen down and prepared to squash him under his tracks, but didn't expect the Autobot to suddenly get a Mini-Con partner of his own. Powered by [[Liftor]], Smokescreen delivered a powerful punch to the incoming Demolishor, driving him back. {{storylink|Panini Armada issue 6|Between Two Worlds!}}

When the Decepticons planned to nuke the Autobots from their new lunar base, Demolishor caught a transmission from the Autobots' Mini-Cons, who offered to surrender in exchange for the Autobots' lives. He reported this to Megatron, who opted to take the Mini-Cons then blow the Autobots up anyway. {{storylink|Panini Armada issue 8|Earthshaker!}} The plan was a huge failure, ending with the destruction of the Decepticon base and no Mini-Cons to show for it. Demolishor cheerfully referred to the whole thing as a "bit of a blip in the old world-conquest plans", which promptly got him punished by the disgruntled Megatron. Suddenly, Cyclonus showed up and started attacking his fellow Decepticons. He turned out to be possessed by the [[Destruction Mini-Con Team]], who were using him to get rid of Megatron once and for all. After watching the two duel for a while, Demolishor power-linked with [[Blackout (Armada)|Blackout]] and entered the fray, but did little damage to Cyclonus. {{storylink|Panini Armada issue 9|Dawn of Destruction!}}

===''TransTech''===
Demolishor is part of [[Gutcruncher (G1)|Gutcruncher]]'s inner circle in the underlevels of [[Axiom Nexus]]. He was with Gutcruncher in [[The Blue Deployer]] the night the Action Master took [[Hubcap (G1)|Hubcap]] for a lot of money. {{storylink|Gone Too Far}}
{{note|Demolishor is not explicitly named in the story, but the description matches.}}

===Bendon ''Armada'' books===

Megatron and Demolishor launched a surprise attack against the Autobots, only to "cowardly" run away after Optimus Prime and Hot Shot stood up to them. {{storylink|Cave Catastrophe}}

Megatron and Demolishor also launched a sneak attack against the kids when they left themselves in the open, and were yet again bested by the two Autobots when they came to render aid. {{storylink|Race to Disaster}}

==Toys==
===Armada===
[[Image:Armada Demolishor toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Best Decepticon yes-man toy, ever!]]
* '''Demolishor w/ Blackout''' (Deluxe, 2002/2003)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''MD-03'''
**''Accessories'': 4 missiles

: Demolishor transforms into an anti-aircraft missile tank of made-up model. In vehicle mode, he has extra [[Mini-Con]] compatibility; there is a seat behind his turret so he can be piloted, plus the space between his treads features a clip/launcher mechanism for his partner [[Blackout (Armada)|Blackout]] in vehicle mode. Attaching a Mini-Con to his left shoulder's [[Powerlinx]] plug in either mode pushes his twin-missile launcher mechanism forward and allows his spring-loaded missiles to be fired.

: The toy also features an "Attack Base" mode that converts the tread assembly into an elevated base, turning Demolishor into a stationary anti-aircraft station. The station also features a seat which Blackout can sit on to "operate" the artillery.

: The Japanese release of Demolishor uses a different shade of tan, plus paints his face brown rather than black, among other smaller [[Paint operation|paint application]] changes.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2002/Decepticon/Demolishor/demolishor.htm More information on Demolishor at TFU.info]''
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* '''Ironhide w/ Search and Land Military Microns''' (Multi-pack, 2003)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''MS-03'''
**''Accessories'': 4 missiles

: In Japan, Demolishor was available both separately and in a multi-pack with the [[Land Military Mini-Con Team]]. All toys in the set are identical to their individual releases.
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*'''Demolishor''' (Happy Meal toy, 2003)

: An extremely simplified version of the original Demolishor toy, he features a "battle damage" pop-off arm. He can combine with the other Happy Meal Decepticons to form a super vehicle. Kinda.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2002/Decepticon/McDemolishor/demolishor.htm More information on Happy Meal Demolishor at TFU.info]''
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*'''Demolishor''' (Built to Rule, 2003)
**''Accessories'': 2 missiles

: One of the smaller ''[[Built to Rule]]'' sets, Demolishor's vehicle mode is still an anti-aircraft missile tank, but with only one firing rocket per side, activated by a pressure-launch mechanism using a rotating "drum". He also features working rubber treads. He comes with a building-block version of Blackout.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2003/Decepticon/BTRDemolishor/demolishor.htm More information on Built to Rule Demolishor at TFU.info]''
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*'''Powerlinx Demolishor w/ Powerlinx Blackout''' (Deluxe, 2003)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''MD-10'''
**''Accessories'': 4 missiles

: A late-series [[redeco]] of the original Demolishor in red and off-white. Part of the final wave of the Stateside ''Armada'' product, Demolishor's coloration was finalized after cardback photography was needed, so the card depicts a normal-colored Demolishor.
:This toy was [[repurposing|repurposed]] for Shattered Glass Demolishor.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2003/Decepticon/PXDemolishor/demolishor.htm More information on Powerlinx Demolishor at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:DemolishorNA-ABTR.jpg|right|125px|thumb|WUBBA WUBBA WUBBA.]]
*'''Night Attack Demolishor''' (Built to Rule, 2003)
**''Accessories'': 2 missiles

: Part of the final wave of ''Armada Built to Rule'', the first Demolishor set was redecoed into colors very close to those of the [[Night Attack Mini-Con Team]]. Again, he comes with a similarly colored version of Blackout.

: Night Attack Demolishor did not ship very prominently, but eventually could be found at Toys "R" Us stores for the heavily discounted price of $2 or so.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Decepticon/NADemolishor/demolishor.htm More information on Built to Rule Night Attack Demolishor at TFU.info]''
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===Energon===
*'''Demolishor w/ Blackout''' (Deluxe, 2004)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''SD-02'''
**''Accessories'': 4 missiles

: Originally released as part of the regular [[Takara]] ''Super Link'' series, the original Demolishor toy was given a new color scheme of lime green and purple. This version was later released in the US late in the ''Energon'' line as a [[KB Toys]] stores [[exclusive]] alongside the ''Super Link'' redeco of [[Cyclonus (Armada)|Cyclonus]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Decepticon/KBDemolishor/demolishor.htm More information on ''Energon'' KB Toys Demolishor at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:Energon Demolishor toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|MUNKY IS TRUKK]]
*'''Demolishor''' (Deluxe, 2004)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''SD-11'''
**''Accessories'': 4 missiles

: Demolishor's new body transforms into a large "earth-mover" dump truck. His truck bed contains four spring-loaded missiles, plus four "false", non-firing missiles. His center torso block can rotate forward to bring his launcher over his body for "[[Hyper Mode]]"... which puts his head right in the middle of his sternum. His truck bed also feature two pairs of "dead" Powerlinx plugs to attach Mini-Cons to, one pair on each side of the "flap", allowing for Mini-Con Powerlinxing in both truck and robot modes. According to Hasbro in [[Hasbro Q&A/August 2009: Answers|a Q&A]], he was supposed to be a new character named [[Long Haul]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Decepticon/Demolishor/demolishor.htm More information on ''Energon'' Demolishor at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:Mcdemolishor.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Good luck finding me.]]
*'''Demolishor''' (Happy Meal, 2004)

: Available only in some Latin America markets, one of the two ''Energon'' McDonald's Happy Meal promos (neither of which were done in the US!) featured a heavily-simplified version of dump-truck Demolishor with a spring-loaded transformation to robot mode.

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===Cybertron===
[[Image:Cybertron-toy_Demolishor.JPG|right|300px|thumb|"I'm not [[Roadbuster (G1)|Roadbuster]]!"]]
*'''Demolishor''' (Deluxe-Class, 2006)
**''Accessories'': 4 missiles, Cyber Planet Key

: A late addition to the line, the original tank mold was redecoed in a more military camo scheme. He does not come with his Mini-Con partner Blackout in this release; instead, he has a new-mold [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]-style [[Cyber Planet Key]], without a molded [[Faction symbols|faction sigil]], plus a Mini-Con-style Powerlinx socket on the back so it can be used to activate his missile launcher. The key has a painted Decepticon sigil, a purple border, and the [[Cyber Key Codes|Key Code]] "'''dt67'''" printed on the back.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Decepticon/Demolishor/demolishor.htm More information on ''Cybertron'' Demolishor at TFU.info]''
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===Attacktix===
[[Image:Attacktix-Demolishor.jpg|right|300px|thumb|But our story isn't really about him...]]
*'''Demolishor''' (2006)
**''Attack Type'': Shooter (wide missile)

: Shown at Toy Fair 2006, ''[[Attacktix]]'' Demolishor is based on his ''Energon'' dump-truck body, with a back-mounted missile launcher that shot a wide-headed missile. He was placed in an early mock-up of the starter set, but ultimately only the vehicle-mode [[Skyblast (Energon)|Skyblast]] piece would end up in the final product. The piece had no sticker on the front as well. And then... that was the last anyone ''saw'' of this piece. It was never shuffled into a later assortment or even mentioned anywhere. What the hell?
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==Notes==
* Reportedly, both of the original Demolishor toy's shoulders were to contain spring-loaded missile launchers, but one was removed for cost considerations.
* Powerlinx Demolishor was originally intended to be [[Sixshot]]-inspired, according to [[Aaron Archer]], because Demolishor's gun-hands reminded him of Sixshot. (No, we don't get it, either.) However, the red color scheme got decided on by [[We've]] and implemented first.
* It's possible that Aaron Archer meant "Sixgun" and not "Sixshot". This would make much more sense since Demolishor does bear some similarities to Sixgun.
[[Image:ARgame-DemoFight.jpg|right|180px|thumb|ARHH!!]]
* Demolishor was originally planned to be in the [[Transformers (PS2)|''Armada'' Playstation 2 game]] as a long-running boss fight in the Antarctic. According to the original storyboards (unlocked in the game by finding the appropriate [[Data-Con]] on the [[Pacific Island]] base), he was the pilot of the crashed starship (instead of [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]]), and the player would have first fought him inside the control room of the ship. [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] was then to fire on the ship when Demolishor was near defeat, which would cause the ship to crash into the chasm below. The player would then have to chase Demolishor vertically through the downed ship and into an ice cavern, where he would try and drop stalactites on your head during your final confrontation. Why Demolishor was removed from the game is unknown, though the most likely explanation is time and budget concerns.
* ''Cybertron'' Demolishor's Key Code as printed on the key doesn't work properly, giving the information for the Deluxe-Class [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]]. However, the Code "'''D56B'''" gives Demolishor's information.
*According to the Armada IP Creative Bible, one of his production names was Scourge. Get it, Scourge, [[Cyclonus (Armada)|Cyclonus]], and [[Megatron (Armada)|Galvatron]]?
*Despite originating in the Unicron Trilogy, Demolishor has had [[Demolishor (SG)|two]] [[Demolishor (Prime)|characters]] based on him appear in [[Shattered Glass (franchise)|two]] [[Transformers: War for Cybertron|separate]] Generation 1-influenced continuities. Probably helped by [[Demolishor (ROTF)|his third namesake]] appearing in ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]''.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Ironhide''' (アイアンハイド ''Aianhaido''), '''Irontread''' (dump truck body, アイアントレッド ''Aiantoreddo'')
*''Polish:'' '''Demolatron''' (''Armada''), '''Destruktor''' (''Energon'')
*''Hungarian:'' '''Pusztító'''
*''Russian:'' '''Razrushitel'''' (Разрушитель, "Devastator")

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Demolishor (Armada)

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Arcee (G1)

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:''Arcee is an [[Autobot]] and later [[Maximal]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:ArceeG1-2010storypage.jpg|right|300px|thumb|These aren't high heels, they just forgot to finish building my feet.]]

Most make the mistake of noticing only '''Arcee'''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s [[Female Transformer|gender]], but these first impressions are quickly expanded upon. Arcee is a merciless and deadly warrior who's an expert in hand-to-hand combat and one of the best sharpshooters on record. The reason for her ferocity is how much she cares for her fellow Autobots and especially the [[human]]s they protect. She knows how fragile her organic companions are, and she's equally aware of the evils the [[Decepticon]]s are capable of. Peers such as [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] and [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] may be more durable than the humans, but she no less fights to defend them as well. They get in plenty of trouble, so someone has to be the level-headed one. (Some believe Arcee has a [[Transformer romance|romantic]] attraction to either of those two, but that depends on who and when you ask.)

If concern for her friends is her strength, it's regrettably also her weakness. If anything would happen to, say, [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel Witwicky]], she might just completely lose it. And she may be quick, but she's not very strong.

She's also [[Rattrap|Rattrap's]] [[Relatives|"great-aunt".]]

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
:''Voice actress:'' [[Susan Blu]] (English), [[Masako Katsuki]] (Japanese, ''The Movie''), [[Yōko Kawanami]] (Japanese, ''Transformers 2010''), [[Atsuko Yuya]] (Japanese, ''The Rebirth''), [[Carmen Sheila]] (Portuguese)
[[Image:Springerarceecmonwoman.jpg|left|thumb|200px|"I bet you Hot Rod is the Chosen One." "What? He's cute, but ''please''." "Okay, if I'm right, you have to date me instead." "You're on!"]]

During the assault on [[Autobot City]] Arcee was instrumental in helping [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] transform the fortress to repel the [[Decepticon]] invaders, buying precious time for reinforcements and likely saving many lives. She was among the few Autobots to survive [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s savage blitz on the city and to form the small army sent to engage the planet eater, [[Unicron]], who was threatening [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] at the time.
Although she was nearly left behind when Unicron’s minion [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] attacked, she, along with Autobot leader [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], and his small attack force managed to hold their own against the villain long enough to befriend the citizens of the planet [[Junkion (planet)|Junk]], reunite with their lost Autobot comrades, and fight their way into the depths of Unicron where [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] was finally able to open the power of the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] and kill the giant foe.

[[Image:ArceeTFMovie.jpg|right|200px|thumb|She, uh, meant to flood the tunnel.]]

Throughout the entire affair, one of Arcee's top priorities was the protection and care of young [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel Witwicky]], a human friend of Hot Rod who had wound up on the adventure with her. {{Storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}}

After the Matrix chose Hot Rod to become the new leader of the Autobots, [[Rodimus Prime (G1)|Rodimus Prime]], Arcee remained as one of his closest soldiers. She helped fight a surprise attack on the first [[Galactic Olympics]]. When Ultra Magnus, [[Kup (G1)|Kup]], and [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] were discovered missing, she and Springer took off after the perceived kidnapper. Although they were successful in capturing their quarry, the [[Skuxxoid]], and taking his ship, he deceived them about the identity of his employer. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1}} This still turned out to be beneficial as they arrived in time to save Rodimus Prime and [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] from being pummeled by a mob of Decepticons. When Rodimus learned that the [[Quintesson]]s were the real ones behind the kidnapping, she partook in the rescue mission on [[Quintessa]], saving Magnus, Kup and Spike seconds before the planet was detonated. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 2}}

She, along with the others, was sent by the explosion to the planet of [[Goo]] where they were stranded until the Junkions were called in to salvage them. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 3}} Although she was only briefly seen in the aftermath, it was assumed she returned to Cybertron with the others, and fought when Galvatron waged a full scale assault on the planet. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4}}

Arcee was among the small group of Autobots that managed to stop a Quintesson plot to use the resurrected body of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] as a sort of sleeper agent to lure the rest of the Autobots into a trap. {{storylink|Dark Awakening}} She was also seen among the other Autobots cheering when Unicron's plan to connect himself to Cybertron failed. {{storylink|Ghost in the Machine}}

[[Image:ArceeDepth.jpg|left|thumb|250px|With this, she won't ''need'' to be a sharpshooter!]]
Later she accompanied a squad sent after Galvatron and his troops who had broken into a secret chamber on Cybertron. This too would turn out to be a Quintesson trap. This time, the Decepticons were fooled into releasing the Quintessons’ dangerous experiments, the [[Trans-Organic]]s, and their most powerful member The [[Dweller]], a giant energy leech that turned all Transformers into energy vampires. After trying to fight off both Galvatron and the Dweller in the dark tunnels, only she and Ultra Magnus were able to escape and warn Rodimus Prime and [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] in time to stop the Dweller and turn the other Transformers back to normal. {{storylink|The Dweller in the Depths}}
[[Image:OnlyHumanlineup.jpg|right|thumb|250px|The color scheme isn't flattering on a jumpsuit, either.]]

She, along with Rodimus Prime, Ultra Magnus, and Springer became the targets of crime lord [[Victor Drath]] after busting one too many of his operations. With the help of [[Cobra Commander| Old Snake]], the four Autobots were captured. Their minds were transferred from their bodies into the forms of [[synthoid]] humans. They managed to escape disposal by Drath’s men, and Arcee eventually made it back to Autobot City in an attempt to warn their comrades that their former bodies were going to be used to blow up the city. Being an unrecognizable human, no one believed her, and she was locked in a detention cell instead. Luckily when Ultra Magnus and Springer managed to foil Drath's plan all four Autobots were subsequently returned to their rightful bodies. {{storylink|Only Human}}

[[Image:HeadmasterDanielRebirth1.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Daniel has two mommies.]]
The almost maternal connection between Daniel and Arcee was a powerful one, which was only strengthened some time later when Galvatron tried his most ambitious plan. Using the [[Key to the Plasma Energy Chamber|Key]] to the [[Plasma Energy Chamber]], Galvatron tried to release its destructive power. Arcee, along with Hot Rod, Kup, and a large Autobot crew, managed to snatch the key away and escaped to the far off planet of [[Nebulos]]. There, they became embroiled in the Nebulons' struggle for freedom against their own oppressors, the [[Hive (G1)|Hive]]. In an effort to combat both the Hive and the Decepticons that had tracked them down, the Autobots and the Nebulons agreed to become partners and developed the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] and [[Targetmaster]] processes. Having been critically injured trying to save her from [[Snapdragon (G1)|Snapdragon]], Arcee chose Daniel to partner with as he now needed an [[exosuit]] to survive and was her ”dearest friend”. {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 1}}

[[Binary bonding|Binary bonded]], the two proved quite effective in combat as did all the Autobots and, later, Decepticons who became Headmasters and Targetmasters. {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 2}} Trying to escape with the key, Arcee and Daniel were captured by [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] and held prisoner until Spike and [[Cerebros (G1)|Cerebros]] were able to break them out of the Decepticon City just before it was blown out into the deep reaches of space by a blast of energy from the Plasma Energy Chamber. {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 3}}

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====Japanese cartoon continuity====
{{note|The events of the Generation 1 cartoon occur in the Japanese timeline as detailed above, except the events of season 3 are pushed back to 2010, and "The Rebirth" does not occur. Japanese continuity inserts several new stories into the timeline.}}

=====MC Axis comic=====
[[Image:Arcee-modelkit.jpg|right|thumb|150px|"My hair! He shot my hair! Son of a bitch..."]]

On [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], following a devastating battle, [[Firestar]] and [[Moonracer]] observed their enemies retreating and presumed that things would be quiet for a while. Suddenly, they were attacked from behind by a massive [[Decepticon]]. Arcee immediately saved them by killing the villain with a single shot. Arcee reminded the two Female Autobots that war is especially tough on females. They then pondered whether danger is tripled when three beautiful women are involved. {{storylink|The Transformers (MC Axis comic)|The Transformers: Arcee}}

=====''Story of Binaltech''=====
In the divergent [[universal stream]] of Primax 903.0 Beta, splintered off from the mainstream timeline when the time-tossed Decepticon [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] altered history, Arcee was selected to participate in the [[Timaeus Project]], an Autobot experiment to breach super-dimensional space being carried out on the urging of the mysterious [[Optimus Primal|Protector]], a disembodied spark from the future. Arcee's consciousness was transferred into a [[Binaltech]] body, and after saying goodbye to the Protector, she began her objective: driving in around an accelerator track while a chip in her cerebro-circuitry helped focus her thoughts towards breaching "superspace". Just as she succeeded in opening a rift into higher-dimensional space, however, a Decepticon attack led by [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] struck Autobot City. Fearing for the safety of the Protector and the future he represented, Arcee recklessly attempted to go to his rescue, leaping off the track without taking the proper slowdown procedures. Arcee's body was crushed by undissipated kinetic energy, but in her unconscious state, the Protector's spark contacted her, and told her that he was unimportant: it was the Timaeus Project and its researchers who had to be saved. 38 seconds later, Arcee awoke, her spark having been automatically transferred to a spare S-2000 Binaltech unit, and she fulfilled the Protector's wishes, saving the project's human workforce and the [[Alternium|strange object]] that had passed through the rift she had opened. Alas, this allowed Shockwave's agents to capture the Proctor's spark, and bring it to Decepticon leader [[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Nemesis Prime]]. {{storylink|Unfinished Business, Part 3}}

When Nemesis Prime resurfaced in Australia, the Autobots confronted him. As Ultra Magnus and the others assaulted the Decepticons directly, Arcee managed to free the Protector from the villains' clutches. The liberated Protector then merged with Optimus Prime, giving him the strength to defeat his evil counterpart. {{storylink|Unfinished Business, Part 4}}

=====''The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms'' comic=====
[[Image:Arcee2010MangaBoogie01.jpg|thumb|200px|left|She's supposed to be ''running''. Seriously.]]

After receiving an SOS signal, Arcee and the Autobots responded to aid the humans. Their rescue efforts were interrupted by Galvatron and the Decepticons, but Rodimus Prime managed to defeat their enemies, and the Autobots flew the refugees to safety. {{storylink|The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers issue 1|The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers #1}}

On another occasion, Arcee and her friends were confronted with five copies of the lost Decepticon leader [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]. They eventually uncovered Galvatron directing the "[[Megatron Corps]]", and destroyed his drones. {{storylink|The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers issue 2|The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers #2}}

Arcee was also present when Ultra Magnus gave a tour of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] to a group of human children. {{storylink|The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers issue 3|The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers #3}}

She was present on the planet [[Feminia]] during the Decepticon invasion of the world, as well. {{storylink|The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers issue 5|The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers #5}}
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=====''The Headmasters'' cartoon=====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Yōko Kawanami]] (Japanese)
[[Image:Hmep3_arcee_cries.jpg|right|thumb|225px|Blurr cares not for your pain, woman!]]
In 2011, Arcee was stationed at the Autobots' secondary command post on the planet [[Athenia]] when Cybertron's mega-computer [[Vector Sigma]] began to destabilize, threatening the planet and opening it up to an attack by Decepticons and their new "Headmaster" warriors. {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}} She remained there with Hot Rod, Kup, Blurr and [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] and [[Carly]] to hold down the fort while the other Autobots joined the battle on Cybertron, and watched from afar as an object that they believed to be a star also headed for the planet. The "star" was in actuality the colossal spaceship the Maximus, carrying the Autobot Headmasters from their homeworld of planet [[Master (planet)|Master]], and with their added strength, the Autobot forces were able to rout the Decepticons. While Optimus Prime headed into Cybertron's depths to try and stabilize the computer, Arcee helped welcome the Autobot Headmasters to Athenia, and again remained on the planet with Kup and Blurr while most of the other Autobots began searching for the missing Matrix of Leadership on Earth, required to bring Vector Sigma under control. Arcee wept when news of [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]]'s death during the quest reached Athenia. {{storylink|The Mystery of Planet Master}} Lack of any further news put Blurr on edge, and Arcee was trying to get him calm down before he drove her nuts when Autobot Headmaster commander [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress]] announced that he was going to Cybertron to try to help Optimus Prime. Arcee and the others went with him, helping to monitor Vector Sigma while he followed Prime into Cybertron's catacombs. Ultimately, the Matrix was recovered and used to stabilize Vector Sigma, but not before Optimus Prime perished once more, leaving Hot Rod—now Rodimus Prime again—as leader. {{storylink|Birth of the Fantastic Double Prime}}

[[Image:Headmasters threestooges.jpg|left|thumb|225px]]

Arcee, Kup and Blurr counselled Rodimus Prime on how to deal with the Decepticons' newest weapon, the [[Madmachine]]; Arcee put both Blurr and [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] in their place for underestimating the threat. She then watched as Fortress used the technology of Master to resurrect Blaster as Twincast. {{storylink|The Great Cassette Operation}} A little later, Arcee relayed a report from Fortress about the Decepticon conquest of planet [[Beast (planet)|Beast]] to Rodimus. {{storylink|Rebellion on Planet Beast}} Later still, she helped track the trajectory of the Decepticons' newest space-borne weapon, the meteorite [[Metamorpho]], and assured Daniel that Fortress's battleship would be able to deal with it before it posed any thread to Athenia. {{storylink|Approach of the Demon Meteorite}}

Receiving a distress call from the planet [[Praum]], Arcee conferred with Kup and Blurr on what to do, since Rodimus himself was on Earth checking up on a report of a new energy discovery. While the Autobot Headmasters went to investigate Praum, Rodimus radioed in that the energy report was a fake, prompting Arcee to re-examine the report and discover it had been given by hypnotised victim of the Decepticon Headmaster [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]]. Realising the energy report was a distraction, Rodimus headed for Praum and saved the Autobot Headmasters from the ambush waiting for them there. {{storylink|The Four-Million-Year-Old Veil of Mystery}} Chromedome started to develop a crush on Arcee, and the other Headmasters made fun of him by comparing Arcee's looks to the [[Statue of Liberty]]'s. {{storylink|Terror! The Six Shadows}}

[[Image:Hm11 arcee handsonhips.jpg|right|thumb|225px|Yeah, you'll be seeing this a lot if you get married, and it'll always be while you're trying to watch football.]]

When the Decepticons launched another major attack on Cybertron in order to seize control of the new alloy [[cybertonuron]] that Vector Sigma had created, Arcee rushed to the planet to join the battle, though she and Kup were held up by having to stop and pull Blurr out of a chair he'd gotten stuck in. The trio watched as Rodimus and Galvatron battled. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 1}} Unfortunately, the Autobots did not reckon with Decepticon Headmaster leader [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], who used [[plasma energy]] bombs to destroy Cybertron, rather than allow Galvatron to obtain the cybertonuron. Rodimus Prime decided to leave leadership to Fortress while he departed to search space for a new homeworld for the Transformers, and Kup and Blurr volunteered to go along with him; Arcee expressed her desire to join them, but Rodimus instructed her to stay behind to look after Daniel and Wheelie. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 2}}

[[Image:Hm11 chromedome arcee dance.jpg|left|thumb|225px]]

Arcee was downcast by these turns of events, but tried to encourage Wheelie and Daniel to keep their spirits up. They all attended a party to commemorate the completion of the joint Autobot-human project, the [[Solar 1]] satellite, at which Arcee slow-danced with Chromedome, surprised at his skill. {{storylink|The Shadow Emperor, Scorponok}} Arcee later helped to monitor the mysterious Decepticon-controlled planet [[Zarak (planet)|Zarak]] {{storylink|The Dormant Volcano Mysteriously Erupts}} and alerted Fortress to the appearance on Athenia of a carnivorous plant. {{storylink|Head On!! Fortress Maximus}}

When Fortress departed Athenia to join a battle on Mars, Carly worried for the safety on Daniel, and Arcee assured her he would be fine. {{storylink|Explosion on Mars!! Maximus Is in Danger}} During the fight on Mars, Fortress was hit by a blast of energy by the Decepticons that drained all his power, and Arcee desperately tried to raise him on the communications channel. She analyzed the energy that had struck him, identifying it as plasma energy, and realized that the Decepticons planned to destroy Mars in order to generate more of it. {{storylink|Explosion on Mars!! MegaZarak Appears}} Unbelievably, the villains succeeded in the goal, and Arcee joined with Spike and [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]] in scanning the planetary debris to assess the damage the planet's destruction had caused to the solar system. After they reported their findings to Fortress, a strange new phenomenon appeared on Athenia: Daniel and Wheelie saw a UFO! Arcee filled Fortress in on the mystery sighting, and travelled with the Autobot Headmasters to watch as Daniel tried communicating with the strange visitor via music. Chromedome was particularly honored to drive alongside Arcee, and got a thrill out of seeing her transform. {{storylink|Return of the Immortal Emperor}}

[[Image:Hm18_arcee_memo.jpg|right|thumb|225px|"So, yeah, this is basically all I do now."]]

Arcee was the first to speak out in favour of offering aid to the energy-depleted planet [[Sandra (planet)|Sandra]], and gathered information on the Autobots' energon stockpiles in order to verify the energy could be spared. {{storylink|SOS from Planet Sandra}} Soon after, Arcee used [[Teletraan I (G1)|Teletraan I]] to send a request from Spike to Galvatron about the unlikely possibility of the two factions uniting in a new energy research programme... and received a surprised response in the positive! Unfortunately, the negotiations proved to be a Decepticon distraction, granting the rest of the villains time to depart on an interplanetary energy-plundering quest. Once the Autobots discovered they had been duped, they set off in pursuit of their foes across space; Arcee accompanied them, helping to look after Daniel and Wheelie on the trip. {{storylink|Daniel Faces His Biggest Crisis Ever!!}}

[[Image:Hm19_nurse_arcee.jpg|left|thumb|225px|"Hey you look a lot like..." "Riderman? Yeah, I get that a lot."]]

The Autobots discovered that the Decepticons' first target was the planet [[Hachi no Susei]] when they found a damaged ship and an injured soldier from the planet floating in space. Arcee did her best to save the soldier's life with the Maximus's medical equipment, but his wounds were to severe. {{storylink|Fight to the Death on Hachi no Susei!!}} Next, the Decepticons went after the planet [[Twin Star|Sperity]]; Fortress instructed [[Brainstorm]] to take Arcee, Daniel and Wheelie to Sperity's barren twin [[Twin Star|Toruin]] where they could be safe until the fighting was over. However, the quartet discovered that most of Sperity's population had evacuated to a subterranean city on Toruin, and Arcee was forced to volunteer herself as a "hostage", remaining on Toruin as a show of good faith while Brainstorm went to pass this important information on to the Autobots on Sperity. {{storylink|Battle for Defense of the False Planet}}

Arcee's image was programmed into one of Daniel's video games as a hapless damsel who had to be saved from sprites of the Decepticon Headmasters. Fortunately, she didn't take any offense at this, and happily watched Daniel play the game, complimenting him on his marksmanship. Soon after, the Autobots saved the injured [[Beastformer]] [[Tekna]] from the planet Darhos, and Arcee monitored his vitals as Chromedome tried and failed to save his life. {{storylink|Find MegaZarak's Weak Spot!!}} Arcee then joined the Autobots in traveling to planet [[Paradise]], {{storylink|Head Formation of Friendship}} and [[Pirate Planet]], but just really stood around on the Maximus and didn't do much. {{storylink|Mystery of the Space Pirate Ship}} She carried on doing nothing after the Autobots returned to Athenia {{storylink|Ultra Magnus Dies!!}} and even took the time to advocate that ''others'' do nothing as well, such as when she had Spike refrain from contacting Fortress in the face of a diversionary Decepticon attack. {{storylink|The Emperor of Destruction Vanishes on an Iceberg}} She spent most of the time that immediately followed sitting at a monitor, either sending communications or overseeing Fortress's telekinetic surgery on an injured Spike. She finally got off her butt to tell a benched Chromedome that Fortress was in trouble in a battle on Earth, but fortunately, Chromedome had just deduced the location of Scorponok's weak spot and left Arcee in charge on Athenia while he headed off to pass the info on. {{storylink|I Risk My Life for Earth}}

[[Image:Hm27 ambassador arcee.jpg|right|thumb|"Weren't you a little taller the last time we met?" "Shut up."]]

Fortress's victory over Scorponok forced the Decepticons off of Earth, leaving the Autobots to begin clean-up operations and restore the damage done to the planet. Arcee was appointed Spike's aide in his meeting with the [[United Nations]], working to help co-ordinate the relief effort; their first endeavour was the destruction of the Decepticons' abandoned Earth headquarters. {{storylink|Miraculous Warriors, Targetmasters (Part 1)}} Despite these new duties, however, Arcee still joined with the other Autobots in travelling to the planet Master when word reached them that Scorponok had withdrawn there and was causing chaos. She put her medical knowledge to work again treating the wounds of Chromedome's old friend [[Jack (Headmasters)|Jack]]. {{storylink|Miraculous Warriors, Targetmasters (Part 2)}} She proceeded to do absolutely nothing for the entirety of the remainder of the Autobots' time on the planet, but she sure did a good job of sitting silently in a chair. {{storylink|Operation: Destroy the Decepticons}}

Arcee's massively importantly contribution to the Autobots' return flight to Earth was reminding Daniel and Wheelie to wear their seatbelts. Soon after touching down on the planet, Arcee received a report that an airliner carrying Spike and Carly had crashed in the Andes, prompting Daniel and the Headmasters to head to the rescue. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 1)}} She then ''finally'' stepped back on to the battlefield for the first time in ages when she joined all the other Autobots in a climactic final battle with the Decepticons at the North Pole. She united her energies with her team-mates, funnelling them through the Headmasters' [[Head Formation]], super-charging Fortress Maximus and giving him the strength to destroy Scorponok's [[Transtector]]. This victory finally led the Decepticons to flee Earth for good, and Arcee stood stoically by Fortress and the other Headmasters as they bid Spike, Carly and Daniel goodbye, before heading into space to carry on the fight. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 2)}}

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===Marvel UK comics future timelines===
[[Image:Arceeprimesrib.jpg|left|300px|thumb|They're not men, Arcee. Transformers have no gender. We've been over this!]]
Arcee was constructed by the Autobots in an alternate future 1995 as a good-will attempt to placate [[Feminist mob|angry feminists]] who thought that they were "sexist" for having no women in their group. After trying multiple times to explain that Autobots, being robots, had no gender, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] surrendered and ordered [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] and [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] to make a new Autobot who would meet the humans' demands for sexual equality. However, when Arcee was unveiled at a public ceremony, her pink, skinny and curvaceous form enraged the very audience Prime intended to placate. [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]], [[Horri-Bull]], [[Fangry]] and [[Squeezeplay]] who immediately attacked, looking to crush the "secret weapon" that was promised. Prime warned Arcee to stay back, lest she get hurt in battle, but the female Autobot, rightfully annoyed at the Autobots' lack of faith in her equal ability, singlehandedly forced the Decepticons into a retreat. [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] thought that was pretty hot. The feminists were enraged beyond words. {{storylink|Prime's Rib!}}

[[Image:Arceehotrodspacepirates.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Y'know, Arcee, if you'd stop running pidgeon-toed, maybe we'd be out of here by now.]]
Arcee and Hot Rod became quite friendly, but with his ascension to Prime status in 2006, they began to drift apart. She was stationed at [[Autobot City]] on Earth and got bored by her duties. The [[Quintesson]]s attacked in 2008, stringing out the city's population to the wall and using a wounded Arcee as bait to attract Rodimus; when he tried to use the Matrix to heal her, they stole it and he reverted to Hot Rod. Despite her injuries, she assisted him in awakening [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] and devastating the Quintesson fleet. {{storylink|Space Pirates!}}

In 2009, Arcee tracked down [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] and the [[Terrorcon (G1)|Terrorcons]] on Earth, where they were planning to use a laser bore to leech energy right from the planet's core. Joining a small Autobot detachment, they destroyed the drill and returned to Autobot City to face the greater threat: a timestorm that threatened 20 years of history with destruction. As Galvatron had spent months back in the 20th century, the universe was unraveling from the anomaly.

[[Image:TimeWars3-ArceeDinobots.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Dinobots 1, Chivalry 0]]

Arcee, Rodimus and several other Autobots traveled back in time to 1989 in order to retrieve the Decepticon villain. Unfortunately, the Autobots of that day mistook them for imposters and tried to kill them. Arcee was nearly mauled to death by the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] before [[Goldbug (G1)|Goldbug]] explained that they were actually travelers from the future. Even more unfortunately, Galvatron had acquired some allies in the past: Scourge, [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], and the mighty [[Straxus (G1)|Megatron]]. She joined Kup and Ultra Magnus in trying to triple-team Megatron, but was only swatted aside like a bothersome insect. Arcee survived, however, and managed to take a few cheap shots at Galvatron later on in the fight. Eventually, the timestorm asserted itself on the battle, and consumed Galvatron utterly, ending the temporal distortion. {{storylink|Time Wars (issue)|Time Wars}}

Arcee and the Autobots returned to their time only to find it had reset so Galvatron never time-jumped and had instead conquered Cybertron. Their resistance movement was quickly crushed, and the Autobots were forced to leave their homeworld. {{storylink|Aspects of Evil!}} Arcee joined a hundreds-strong Autobot team in fleeing to Earth to regroup. When the Matrix-imprisoned [[Unicron]] possessed Rodimus, Arcee showed a more ruthless side in being the only one of the Autobots to advocate using lethal force on him. {{storylink|The Void! (UK)|The Void}} {{storylink|White Fire}} As Unicron would go on to possess Rodimus again and devastate Cybertron in 2010—an event she witnessed—her ruthless attitude appears to have been the right one all along. Yes, Rodimus Prime managed to contain Unicron again, but at what price...? {{storylink|Aspects of Evil!}}

{{note|Her only appearances in the Marvel U.S. comics were in their [[Transformers: The Movie (Marvel Comics)]] adaptation ("[[The Planet-Eater!]]", "[[Judgment Day!]]", and "[[The Final Battle!]]"), and a profile in issue 4 of their [[Transformers Universe (Marvel comic)]]. All stuff out-of-continuity with the US storyline.}}

===''Big Looker Storybook'' continuity===
[[Image:Wildboyofquintessonbattle.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Look, Dinobots, do you get along with Arcee or not?]]
Kup led Hot Rod, Arcee, and the Dinobots on a special mission to take supplies from Earth to a space station on Cybertron's second moon. Despite Kup's warnings, the Dinobots loaded too many supplies onto the ship, and the ship crashed on a planet. Everyone landed safely, but Kup recognized the place. It was the planet [[Quintessa|Quintesson]]! They were interrupted by a tribal scream and a flurry of firestones. However, the boy who made his presence known was not aiming at them, but at the Quintessons behind them. The boy's name was [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]], and he had been abandoned on the planet when his ship crashed there earlier.

Wheelie led them through the jungle, battling Quintessons along the way, until they reached Wheelie's crashed ship. Hot Rod was able to fix it, and everyone left the planet Quintesson, Wheelie included! {{storylink|The Story of Wheelie, the Wild Boy of Quintesson}}

===Coloring books===
Arcee didn't get a seat during a meeting and later shot at Decepticons. {{storylink|The Lost Treasure of Cybertron}}

===Beast Era===
====''Beast Wars'' cartoon====
After digging his way out from underneath a sudden rockslide caused by an unexpected energy surge from a damaged [[stasis pod]], Rattrap demanded to know what in the name of his [[Relatives|great aunt]] Arcee was going on. {{storylink|Transmutate (episode)|Transmutate}}

====''Universe: Featuring the Wreckers''====
{{note|The following takes place during the [[Beast Era]], specifically its cartoon continuity, which took from both the original cartoon and the Marvel Comics. However, these stories seem to be written to be specifically taking place solely after the events of the original cartoon.}}

{{bigquote|I liked her better when she had that kid in her head.|[[Devcon (G1)|Devcon]]|"[[Betrayal]]"}}

[[Image:Arceedeparturemourns.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Gothy 'cuz all her toys get canceled.]]
During a battle against a horde of killer [[Nightbird (G1)|Nightbirds]], [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] and [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel]] (now an adult) sacrificed their lives to end the threat. The death of Daniel took a serious toll on Arcee, who became reclusive, preferring to sit alone with images of her former [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster partner]]. Over time, she slipped away from her friends entirely, disappearing within [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. After an unspecified event, she took on the form of a techno-organic spider, and learned the skills of both [[Crystalocution]] and the previously lost art of [[Tekkaido]]. She strongly believed that she had premonitions of her friends' deaths before they would happen, and this knowledge had driven her insane. She hid herself away, hoping to spare herself the pain of experiencing this phenomenon.

[[Image:Arceedeparturespider.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Don't underestimate me, I'm more than just a pretty fa— well, just don't underestimate me, okay?]]
Hundreds of [[Stellar cycle|stellar cycles]] later, when [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] returned from [[Earth]]'s past and conquered Cybertron with his army of [[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicons]], Arcee's solitude spared her from the onslaught. [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], now known as simply Rodimus, had helped form a new team of [[Wrecker|Wreckers]] and wished to enlist Arcee. But Arcee rejected his offer as she was still too embittered by her experience, though she was touched by the Wrecker [[Fractyl]]'s words. Rodimus's Wreckers were followed by Megatron's new Vehicon generals, [[Quake (G1)|Quake]] and [[Blastcharge (BM)|Blastcharge]], causing a battle that resulted in Fractyl's near-death. Refusing to lose another, Arcee used her spark to save Fractyl, also reformatting him into a Transmetal body. Arcee agreed to depart with the rest of the Wreckers, and she and Fractyl assisted them in defeating a vast Vehicon army in order to reach an old [[Autobot shuttle]]. {{storylink|Departure}}

But the Autobot bounty hunter [[Devcon (G1)|Devcon]] had snuck aboard their ship and attacked some of their group. Arcee and the others raced to the rescue, and Arcee was quickly felled by Devcon, despite his new, smaller Vehicon body. After things were sorted out, Arcee tended to Fractyl, whose new Transmetal form was wildly unstable. At Arcee's insistence, [[Apelinq]] created a crude medical bot, [[CatSCAN]], to assist Fractyl's recovery. Arcee was oddly unable to foresee the deaths of [[Spittor (BW)|Spittor]] and [[Sonar (BW)|Sonar]], a result of a yet-unknown saboteur amongst their ranks, as she happily watched CatSCAN discover himself while working on Fractyl. Their ship set down on their [[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]]-given destination, the remote planet of [[Akalo|Archa Nine]]. Arcee stayed behind with a few others to repair damage to their ship by their mysterious saboteur, who turned out to be fellow Wrecker [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]]. Cyclonus stole the [[Divine Light]], the artifact the Wreckers were searching for, and returned to his true master, [[Cryotek (RID)|Cryotek]]. {{storylink|Betrayal}}

[[Image:Arceedisclosure.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Just like old times, but smaller.]]
Arcee blamed herself, as she hadn't been able to foresee death since she saved Fractyl. Demoralized, Arcee and the Wreckers left Archa Nine and headed to another planet at the insistence of their divinely-inspired leader, [[Primal Prime]]. They landed on a small icy planet, and a small scout team, including Arcee, was sent to investigate. After searching for hours, they stumbled upon [[Al-Badur]], a [[Quintesson]] scientist. Arcee immediately readied her weapon, as she and Rodimus had had enough of the Quintessons for several lifetimes, but Primal Prime asked her to lower them. Al-Badur was a somewhat welcome source of information regarding their quest, and before they could leave the planet with him, they were under attack by a horde of [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticons]] sent by Cryotek. Arcee and Rodimus quietly bonded as they battled the Sharkticons; it was just like old times. Slowly but surely, Arcee's demeanor had lightened. After the Sharkticons were defeated, Al-Badur explained their problem. The Divine Light was an ancient Quintesson piece of technology that allowed them to tap directly into the power of [[Primus]], and now Cryotek had it! {{storylink|Disclosure}}

But when they returned to Cybertron, it had changed during their absence into a [[technorganic]] paradise by the [[Great Reformatting]]. Quintessons had seized the opportunity to invade the planet, but Primal Prime assured Arcee and the others that Cryotek was their only concern. Primal Prime, Apelinq, [[Ramulus]] and [[Tigatron]] left them to find Cryotek, leaving Arcee and the others to take their injured to safety before joining the counterattack forces on the ground. Instead, their shuttle took heavy damage and was descending in a ball of fire and smoke. Arcee, grabbing Fractyl's body and what life support she could, abandoned ship with the rest. Disregarding Primal Prime's orders, Arcee suggested they find Cryotek and help the other Wreckers defeat him. Descending into the layers of Cybertron, they met [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]], who joined them on their journey.

Finding the battleground between Cryotek and [[Sentinel Maximus]] (the combined form of Apelinq and Primal Prime, newly merged by Primus), Arcee reluctantly set aside Fractyl and his life support to join the fight. She helped Devcon defeat Cryotek's mutated pet [[Chro]], using her weblines to hold the monster still so the bounty hunter could shoot at it. But Cyclonus and Rodimus had disappeared beneath some rubble, so Arcee, Fractyl (who had been magically repaired by Tigatron expending all of his [[Vok]] powers) and the others went digging for him... and instead found [[Botanica (BM)|Botanica]], [[Nightscream (BM)|Nightscream]]... and Arcee's nephew, [[Rattrap]]. They avoided each other's glance awkwardly.

They found Rodimus, but he was in rough shape, having fought nearly to the death with Cyclonus. Arcee and the others agreed to follow Al-Badur's instruction in defeating Cryotek, and helped direct the battle between Sentinel Maximus and Cryotek to a chamber deep within Cybertron. Arcee asked Fractyl to keep on Rodimus, who was extremely weak. Their group arrived in the desired chamber, but Arcee had a bad feeling about the place. It seemed familiar. She recognized it too late. It was a Quintesson banishment chamber, and Al-Badur had activated the containment shield within, locking Sentinel Maximus, Cryotek, and himself inside a forcefield bubble that fed into a strongly gravitational portal into nothingness. To Arcee's initial horror, despite her pleas, Rodimus stood up to deal with the situation. She knew that his next action would kill him in his weakened state, but after his assurances, she resigned herself to the outcome. Rodimus and Cheetor, both [[Matrix Templar]]s, used their skills to drain Cryotek of his Primus-stolen powers. As expected, this was too much for Arcee's long-time friend, and though they succeeded in saving Cybertron, Rodimus was dead.

But death isn't an ending, she realized. It was just another change. "And change is what we do." Arcee and Fractyl gathered his body to take it to a secret burial ground that Arcee knew of. She promised that this time, she wouldn't disappear forever. {{storylink|Wreckers: Finale Part II}}
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===Dreamwave comics continuity===
Before the war, Arcee worked in a hazardous materials treatment plant. {{storylink|Transformers: The Ultimate Guide}} She was a member of Hot Rod's underground rebellion team on Cybertron, battling the forces of [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. {{storylink|Passive Aggression}} Both Hot Rod and Springer appeared to be in love with her, though she seemed rather uninterested in both of them. In reality, Arcee was a sleeper agent for the [[Quintesson]]s.

{{note|Due to [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]]'s bankruptcy, this story was never concluded.}}

===''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers''===
[[Image:TheArtofWar1 girltalk.jpg|left|200px|thumb|]]
In order to oversee the decommissioning of all Cybertronian technology on Earth, Arcee was sent to the planet alongside [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] and [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]], the last of which whom she had a mutual attraction to. Shortly after the group arrived at [[Area 52 (G1)|Area 52]], the facility came under attack by [[Cobra]], and Arcee helped fight them off alongside [[Scarlett]], who was surprised over the existence of "girl robots". {{storylink|The Art of War issue 1|The Art of War #1}} Upon hearing about a security breach in the lower levels of Area 52, the group headed there and, to Arcee's horror, found Bumblebee injured and low on energy. Before much could be done about him, the group was attacked by [[Serpent O.R.]], who took control of [[G.I. Joe battle mech|G.I. Joes' mechs]] and forced them to fight the Autobots before bringing the roof down on everyone. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 2|The Art of War #2}}

The Autobots and Joes survived, and quickly followed Serpent O.R. through a warpgate to Cybertron, where they were attacked by [[cannibalizer]]s. Arcee didn't think they were very threatening, but suggested that they retreat to protect the humans. During their escape, she promised that she'd rotate Bumblebee's tires if he could outrace her... only to run straight into Serpent O.R. and his new army, who remorselessly killed Bumblebee and captured the others. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 3|The Art of War #3}} They eventually managed to escape thanks to their G.I. Joe friends. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 4|The Art of War #4}}

[[Image:GIJoevsTFArtofwar5_Arceecrys.jpg|right|180px|thumb|]]
After hearing that Serpent O.R. had captured [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], Arcee and the others made their way to his chambers, only to find that [[Cobra Commander]] had taken control of Serpent O.R.'s body after he had seized the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. "Serpentor Prime" effortlessly defeated most of the Autobots and Joes, but Arcee dodged his tentacles and managed to rip his chestplate off, allowing [[Hawk (G.I. Joe)|Hawk]] to take the Matrix's power and defeat him. Some time later, Arcee cried for Bumblebee during a memorial service for him. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 5|The Art of War #5}}
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===IDW comics continuity===
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[[Image:Spotlight Arcee traumatic flashback.jpg|right|220px|thumb|]]
Arcee was an early test subject of the mad genius [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]], after he decided to introduce gender into the Transformers just to see the results. Her fundamental [[CNA]] was altered, giving her a "maddening maelstrom of contradictory sensory input" and causing all other Transformers to sense a fundamental difference about her and inadvertently use feminine pronouns around her, something that she loathes. (It also gave her fangs and permanent lipstick for some unknown reason.)

[[Image:IDW Arcee mad.jpg|left|180px|thumb|The writers of the Headmasters cartoon now fear for their lives...]]
She didn't meet Jhiaxus' standards and was dumped. Dangerously unstable and driven by an implacable homing instinct towards her creator's experiments, Arcee cut a mech-fluid swath of carnage across several planets in her obsession with destroying everything Jhiaxus created. She was eventually taken down by [[Tyrest Accord]] enforcer [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] and incarcerated on the Autobot penitentiary on [[Garrus-9]].

Her [[spark]] was kept separate from her body within the penitentiary, as were those of all prisoners. In this limbo, she found a kind of peace. Unfortunately, when the Decepticons attacked to seize the new inmate [[Monstructor (G1)|Monstructor]] (another Jhiaxus experiment), warden [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] freed her as a last resort to stop the attack. She was able to carve her way through the invaders, but not before they left with their target. She headed off to intercept them, with [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] convincing Maximus to allow this. Arcee apparently knows of the [[Expansion]] and Jhiaxus's part in it, and refers to herself as the "servo-wrench in the works". {{storylink|Spotlight: Arcee}}

Later, on the [[Decepticon Battle Platform Zuska]], Arcee tortured a Decepticon until he agreed to tell her where [[Banzai-Tron]] had taken the [[Combiner|gestalts]]. {{storylink|Spotlight: Cyclonus}} She tracked them down, only to find the [[Dead Universe]] Transformers had activated Monstructor and taken him to places unknown, decimating the Decepticons in the process. She agreed to assist the wounded Banzai-Tron in getting to the Monstructor-Six, reasoning it would lead to Jhiaxus... {{storylink|Spotlight: Hardhead}}

[[Image:SpotlightSideswipe Jhiaxus deathbecomeshim.jpg|right|220px|thumb|Those were the best days of our lives.]]
As Arcee assisted Banzai-Tron and his team in trying to recapture Monstructor, [[Skram (G2)|Skram]] arrived through a Space Bridge portal with the means to go to where Jhiaxus was. Slicing off his arm and murdering her way through [[Micromaster]]s, she finally cornered him and was surprised to find he wouldn't die—thanks to coming from the [[Dead Universe]], he was effectively immortal. Which meant she could kill him over and over. {{storylink|Spotlight: Sideswipe}}

Arcee spent several years gleefully murdering Jhiaxus, but her revenge was cut short one day when the nearby portal to the Dead Universe suddenly began to lure all life on Gorlam Prime into it. She was hypnotically drawn towards it, but [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]] held her back until the allure of the portal went away. Though the two Autobots were safe, the entire population of the planet had mysteriously vanished into the portal, and they decided to investigate. {{storylink|Heart of Darkness issue 2}} A while later, they detected [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] and his minions in the vicinity and attacked them. {{storylink|Heart of Darkness issue 1}}

Though Arcee easily defeated Jhiaxus, brought back to life by Galvatron's [[Darkness (G1)|Heart of Darkness]], she was overpowered by Galvatron himself and his Dead Universe powers. Hardhead urged her to return to the Autobot army and warn them of Galvatron's return, and despite Cyclonus and Scourge following her and blowing her into an abyss, she survived and got away. {{storylink|Heart of Darkness issue 2}}

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==Games==
===''The Transformers'' (PS2)===
:''Voice actor'': [[Lenne Hardt]]
{{storylink|The Transformers (PS2)|The Transformers}}
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==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:G1ArceeProto.jpg|left|150px|thumb|Orange? Where'd that come from?]]
[[Image:Concept-HeadmasterArcee.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Pinkdome.]]
*'''Arcee'''
: Despite that she was a major character in [[The Transformers: The Movie|the movie]], no transforming toy of Arcee was made during the [[The Transformers (toyline)|original toyline]]'s run. Images of a hand-sculpted [[prototype]] based on Arcee's original character design ([[#Notes|see below]]) have appeared in several Japanese publications, but it appears the toy never progressed beyond that stage.

: The Japanese ''[[Transformers Generations]]'' book shows a piece of concept artwork of the Headmaster [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] car in pink and white labeled "Arcee", a proposal for a redeco of the toy as Headmaster Arcee from "[[The Rebirth]]". (Presumably, then, this was a Hasbro-initiated idea.) The idea does not appear to have gone any farther.

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[[Image:Botconarceetoy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Don't underestimate me, I'm more than just a pretty face. Arcee, MAXIMIZE! Don't underestimate me, I'm more than just a pretty face. Arcee, MAXIMIZE! Don't underestimate me, I'm more than just a pretty face. Arcee, MAXIMIZE! Don't underestimate me, I'm more than just a pretty face. Arcee, MAXIMIZE!]]
*'''Arcee''' (Mega, 2001)
: The very first true transforming Arcee toy is a [[redeco]] and minor [[Retool|retooling]] of the ''[[Beast Wars (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' [[Transmetal 2]] [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]], transforming into a malformed mish-mash of machine and organic parts in the form of a large spider. The spider-mode fangs become a grappling weapon for her robot mode which extend on a [[Retractable string gimmick|retractable string]]. She has a special [[spark crystal]] that changes her [[Insignia|faction symbol]] from [[Autobot]] to [[Maximal]] when rotated. The robot mode also features a spring-powered waist-swivel for "power kick" action. Arcee lacks the [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] toy's additional chest armor, and the oddly-placed holes in her... well, chest, that keep the armor in place.

: Arcee was available only as an [[exclusive]] to [[BotCon 2001]], and along with [[Tigatron]] was the first time since the inception of [[3H Productions|3H]] that they were allowed to use pre-existing characters for convention exclusives. Arcee is also the first convention toy to feature retooling. Preorders received their Arcees with a bonus; the box contained a light-sensitive sound chip featuring voice actress [[Susan Blu]]'s voice saying "Don't underestimate me, I'm more than just a pretty face. Arcee, MAXIMIZE!". These chips are VERY light-sensitive. Many won't shut up to this day.

:Both Arcee and Tigatron were limited to 1200 pieces.
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===Titanium Series===
[[Image:Arceetitanium.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Seems like a mercy killing, really.]]
*'''Arcee'''
: A 6" transforming Arcee toy was designed and displayed at [[BotCon]] 2007, but [[Titanium Series]] was canceled before its tooling could be completed.

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===Binaltech===
[[Image:Binaltech arcee toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Manual tranny.]]
*'''Arcee''' (2008)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''BT-21'''
**''Accessories:'' Engine/gun

:Arcee is a [[redeco]] of ''[[Alternators]]'' [[Decepticharge]] (himself a [[retool]] of [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]]/[[Overdrive]]), using Honda's "Pearl White" for the car bodywork. The figure transforms into a "street performance" Honda S2000. Her hardtop roof can be removed for an open-top vehicle mode and used as a shield in robot mode. The engine and driveshaft may be removed and used as a long-barreled rifle (as the toy is Japanese issue and not subject to the same issues that removed the long barrel from the [[Hasbro]] versions of the mold).

: In spite of fan speculation, no retooling has been applied to the mold to enhance character resemblance or make her look less butch.

: A redeco of this toy as [[Paradron Medic]] was originally planned to be released simultaneously (but was canceled), a fate that also befell a redeco meant to be Arcee's occasional mold-mate [[Blackarachnia (BW)#Binaltech|Blackarachnia]]. The robot mode was used as the base model for the non-toy car-form [[Legion]].

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==Merchandise==
===MC Axis===
[[Image:Hybrid_model_arcee.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]
*'''Arcee''' (Super Hybrid Model, 1987)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''H-03'''

:Arcee was one of three non-transforming ''[[Super Hybrid Model]]'' vinyl figurines created in 1987 by Japanese collectables company [[MC Axis]]. Standing at about eight inches tall and featuring articulation in the head and neck, Arcee and her fellows (Rodimus Prime and Galvatron) were based on their [[Studio OX]] character models, featuring much more anime-styled proportions and detailing.

:For reasons unknown, the retail release of Arcee and the other ''Super Hybrid Model'' figures was canceled. While Galvatron was eventually released as an exclusive at [[BotCon Japan 1997]], Arcee and Rodimus have never been officially released, though they do occasionally pop up on the secondary market, commanding prices in excess of $600.
 
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[[Image:Mcaxis_arcee.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]
*'''Arcee''' (1996)

:This Japanese "garage kit", an unpainted resin model, was made by [[MC Axis]] and was also the first official product of Arcee that got a retail release. Included among its paperwork is a [[The Transformers (MC Axis comic)|comic strip]] starring Arcee. It is not known for its exceptional quality control - numerous unsightly air bubbles in the plastic are not an uncommon thing to encounter.

::*''[http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/content.php?/transformers-toys/toy-gallery/1492/Axis-Model+Kit/Arcee.html Gallery of an assembled and painted Arcee at Transformers @ The Moon]
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===Super Collection Figure===
[[Image:Hoc_arcee_and_daniel.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Arcee should maybe reconsider something that big transforming into her head.]]
* '''Arcee''' (2000)
: A three-inch tall [[plastic|PVC]] figurine of Arcee was available in the first wave of Takara's ''[[Heroes of Cybertron|Super Collection Figure]]'' line. In a nice spot of attention to detail, she is holding the unremarkable small grey pistol she wielded in the Generation 1 cartoon episode, "[[The Dweller in the Depths]]". Like all the figures in the "act", it was available as both a standard full color figure and a colorless translucent version, one of each of which was available in a standard case of twelve [[blindpacking|blindpacked]] figures.

:Arcee was redecoed to create the chase figure for the eighth wave of the series, the [[Paradron Medic]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2002/Autobot/HoCArcee/arcee.htm More information on Super Collection Figure Arcee at TFU.info]''

* '''Arcee and Daniel''' (2001)
:The Arcee figurine was re-released as part of the fourth wave of the ''Super Collection Figure'' series, now packaged with a figure of Daniel Witwicky in his exo-suit. The pair were available in both full color and metallic "pewter" versions; in eight out of every ten cases, the pewter version of the set came with the body of the line's collectable [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] "build-a-figure".

===Heroes of Cybertron===
* '''Arcee''' (2002)
:When Hasbro released the ''Super Collection Figure'' line as ''[[Heroes of Cybertron]]'', the Arcee figure was released as part of the first wave, now featuring a [[light-piping]] gimmick in the character's eyes, accomplished by casting the figure in translucent blue plastic and then painting over it. Rather than come blindpacked like the ''SCF'' figure, Arcee came on a blister card with a profile card included. The mold would later be redecoed in this fashion into the ''Heroes of Cybertron'' Paradron Medic.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2002/Autobot/HoCArcee/arcee.htm More information on Heroes of Cybertron Arcee at TFU.info]''
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===MyClone===
[[Image:Myclone_arcee.jpg|right|thumb]]
* '''Arcee''' (2003)
**''ID number:'' '''MTF005'''
**''Accessories:'' White display base

:Released in the first wave of the ''[[MyClone]]'' line of Transformers PVC figures, this [[super deformed]] Arcee comes with a hexagonal white display stand, which can link up with the identical stands included with other ''MyClone'' figures. Her modular design allows her parts to be mixed and matched with those of any other MyClone figure, to hilariously hermaphroditic effect.
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===Palisades statues===
[[Image:Palisades_arcee.jpg|right|thumb]]
*'''Arcee''' (2004)

:Inspired by a [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] pin-up lithograph/poster by [[Rob Armstrong]],<ref>[http://www.dreadforce.com/creators.html The creators list for Jaran Studios' ''Dread Force'' includes this information in Rob's profile.]</ref> (itself based on Arcee's Studio OX character model, complete with obnoxious shoulder-armor rig) this statue features looks-right-at-only-one-angle perspective and a face so flat you'd swear she'd flown into a window. Standing around 6" tall, Arcee was limited to 2000 pieces worldwide.

:The Arcee statue was later repainted into that old standby, the [[Paradron Medic]].
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===Robot Heroes===
[[Image:Robotheroesrumblearcee.jpg|right|300px|thumb|She's actually running after Robot Heroes Cheetor. (Or her [[Rattrap|nephew)]]]]
* '''Arcee vs. Rumble''' (2008)

:Part of the second wave of [[Universe (2008 franchise)|''Universe]] [[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'', Arcee is packaged with [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] as part of the "Generation 1 Series." She is sculpted as running across a patch of mechanical flooring, and she has articulation at the head and shoulders.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/RHArcee/arcee.htm More information on Robot Heroes Arcee at TFU.info]''

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===Transformers - Mini Bust===
[[Image:Arcee statue.jpg|right|thumb|Not pictured: Springer and Weirdwolf.]]
* '''Arcee''' (Diamond Select, 2009)

:Released by [[Diamond Select Toys]] in 2009, Arcee was sculpted by [[Mark Wong]] of [[Art Asylum]] and limited to 1000 pieces. She is featured packing two of the style of pistol she is commonly seen with and looking off to one side. As is the case in certain [[Continuity|continuities]], she is listed as a member of [[Elita One]]'s [[Female Autobots|resistance group]]. Arcee's tech specs give her the following classifications: STR 5.5, INT 8, SPD 8, END 5, RNK 6, CRG 9, FBL 6, SKL 10.

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==Notes==
[[Image:G1ArceeModelComp.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Extreme Makeover: Arcee Edition.]]
* Arcee had two different [[Character model|character models]] in 1980s ''Transformers'' media. An earlier model served as the basis for her original unproduced toy (seen above), which was also the model used for most of her Marvel Comics appearances and for parts of the episode "[[Only Human]]". Her final model, meanwhile, was used for her appearances in ''The Transformers: The Movie'', the rest of her season 3 appearances, and her Japanese ''Headmasters'' appearances.

* When asked about Arcee's design in an interview, [[Floro Dery]]'s reply was, "Arcee is the naked mechanical equivalent of Princess Leia of ''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]''."<ref>[http://transformersph.blogspot.com/2007/06/interview-with-floro-dery.html TransFormers Philippines: Interview With Floro Dery]</ref> Well, that answers that question... while raising a whole bunch of others!

* Arcee has the most romantic attachments of any Transformers character: Hot Rod in the movie, Marvel Comics and Dreamwave continuities, Springer after the movie, Chromedome in ''The Headmasters'', and Bumblebee in [[Devil's Due Press|Devil's Due]] continuity. And then there is the weird affection shown toward Daniel in "[[The Rebirth, Part 3]]", but most fans won't read too much into it, for their own sanity. Damn but she got around.

* Arcee's finalized character model was used to make a lot of the background female characters during the movie and season 3. Various Junkion ladies and the [[Paradron Medic]]s share her design, only without the shoulder-thingies, and a [[Cheesecake robot|more "shaped" version of her earlier model]] appeared in "[[Starscream's Ghost]]".

* The extras in "[[Spotlight: Arcee]]" reveal a few alternative color schemes [[Alex Milne]] and [[Simon Furman]] tried to get approved for IDW's version of Arcee, one blue, two red. [[Hasbro]] nixed all three, insisting on Arcee's usual coloration. Apparent reasons given were that "they didn't want her to be like the other female bots[,] so they wanted the pink look" and that "they wanted her different from <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Elita One]]<nowiki>]</nowiki>".<ref>[http://markerguru.deviantart.com/art/arcee-cover-colors-70762649 Alex Milne's comments on IDW Arcee's colors at deviantART]</ref> If there's actually any plans on Hasbro's part to start promoting female characters other than Arcee so that these arguments make sense, as of 2010, that'd still be news.

* Around 1999, [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] released a special version of the Replica (reissue) [[Microman]] Lady Command figure as part of a [[Lucky Draw figure|lucky draw]] for "The Official Guide to Takara SF Land" book in white and gold chrome named Arcee. The regular versions of the Lady Command figure all had names starting with "A" (Ann, Alice, Annie and Ai<ref>[http://microforever.com/replicam18X.htm Replica Microman Series; Reissued Lady Command M181 Ann, M182 Alice, M183 Annie & M184 Ai (11/1999) at Microman Forever]</ref>), so Arcee makes sense by that logic - but whether this is an incarnation of "our" G1 character is currently not known. Only 5 Lady Command Arcee figures were released.<ref>[http://microforever.com/sflandprize.htm Replica Microman Series; Kodashan Takara SF Land Book Prize - Microman Lady Command Arcee (?/00) at Microman Forever]</ref>

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Arcee''' (アーシー ''Āshī'')
*''Hungarian:'' '''Arszi''', '''RC''' (''The Movie'')
*''Italian:'' '''Saturnia''' (''The Headmasters'')
*''Spanish:'' '''Silvia''' (America ''The Headmasters'')

==References==
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==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/2001/Autobot/Arcee/arcee.htm Arcee at TFU.info]
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Arcee Arcee's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

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Patty Minakaze

2011-06-04T11:36:35Z

86.147.183.159:

:''Patty Minakaze is an [[Autobot]]-allied [[human]] from the [[Victory (franchise)|Victory]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

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[[Image:PattyMinakazeColor.jpg|right|225px|thumb|So YOU'RE to blame for all those girls in Transformer costumes!]]
'''Patty Minakaze''' (南風パティ ''Minakaze Patti''), the older sister of [[Jean Minakaze]], is a human girl orphaned after a spacecraft carrying her [[Doctor Minakaze|fam]][[Jean's mother|ily]] was destroyed by the [[Dinoforce]]. While her brother was adopted by [[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]], she was adopted by [[Victory Leo]].

Despite being cheerful and good-natured to the point of psychosis, she tends to work her fellow members of the [[Victories]] way too hard on menial labors, such as scrubbing floors. She is motherly by nature and likes to take care of others, even the enemy.

She also has a ridiculous outfit.

==Fiction==
===''Victory'' comic===
When Patty was just a young girl, she, her baby brother [[Jean Minakaze|Jean]] and their parents were attacked by the [[Dinoforce]]. Patty and Jean escaped with their lives, though the ship their parents were in was destroyed. While [[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]] adopted Jean and raised him as his own, Patty went to go live with [[Victory Leo]]. For reasons unknown, she was never able to (or never wanted to) contact Jean to let him know he had a sibling.

[[Image:PattyJeanBlush01.jpg|left|200px|thumb|"Getting bigger by the moment, in fact!"]]
Some time later, when Star Saber had fallen to the mercy of [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]], [[Liokaiser]] and [[Dinoking]], Patty arrived with Victory Leo as reinforcements. Victory Leo combined with Star Saber to form [[Star Saber (Victory)|Victory Saber]] and the [[Decepticon|Decepticons]] were handily defeated. As Jean began to blush at the rocking hot blonde chick standing before him, Patty snapped him to his senses by informing him she was his sister (though this did not keep [[Shūta Gō|Shūta]] and [[Cab]] from remaining smitten with her). Patty told Jean that Victory Leo was built from [[gurunium]] ore, a metal which their father had discovered. The gurunium was what made the Victory Combination possible, in fact. As Patty was inaugurated into the [[Victories]], the escaping Decepticon cyborg boy [[Solon Kitakaze (Victory)|Solon]] remarked an interest in Patty. {{storylink|The Strongest Partners, the Combination of Victory!}}

It didn't take Patty long to usurp Jean as leader of the Victories (likely due to her older age) and she began to sweetly, yet demandingly, work her teammates into the ground with menial labors. Patty and Jean were eventually sent to the planet [[Guard]] to free the people Deathsaurus had enslaved. Once there, Victory Saber came under attack from [[King Zaras]], the combined form of Deathsaurus and Solon's new giant mech body, [[Solon Kitakaze (Victory)|King Solon]]. The two foes were evenly matched and continued battling for some time. However, when Patty yelled to Victory Saber to save Guard because it was a "mother world" like [[Earth]], Solon briefly lost his concentration at the sound of the word "mother". This split second was all Victory Saber needed to defeat King Zaras, destroying the King Solon mech. As Solon's flaming body tumbled to the ground, Patty and Jean attempted to help him and even offered him a place among the Victories. Solon refused, declaring he wouldn't be able to stand having a "sister" as cheerful as Patty. Solon immediately escaped, though he felt that Patty reminded him of his late mother. {{storylink|Mighty! Victory Saber}}

[[Image:VictoryMangaPattyJean01.jpg|right|200px|thumb|And there goes the sausagefest.]]
Victory Saber and the [[Brainmaster|Brainmasters]] later succumbed to the might of Deathsaurus and Liokaiser in battle, with Patty and the Victories watching on helplessly. Solon eventually arrived and declared his intent to join them, leaving Patty to lead them in the "Five Stars of Victory" attack. The Victories powered up their respective [[Autobot]] and the attack was enough to defeat the Decepticons and drive them back to the [[Planet-Destroying Fortress|Space Stronghold]]. Solon told Jean that the only way he'd officially join the Victories was if he could have Patty as his big sister. Jean was infuriated by this, though Patty blushed. {{storylink|Shine! The Five Stars of Victory}}

Aboard [[Galaxy Shuttle]], Patty and the Victories stormed the Space Stronghold for the final confrontation with the Decepticons. Their progress was halted by [[Leozack]]'s traps, unfortunately. Eventually, Victory Saber won the day and the Decepticons conceded defeat. After Deathsaurus revealed what they'd been fighting for all along, the Decepticon civilians, Patty declared that all the Decepticons were invited to live alongside the Autobots in peace on [[Victory (planet)|Planet V]]. With the war over, Star Saber and Deathsaurus shook hands furiously. {{storylink|Heroic! The Victory War}}

==Notes==
[[Image:VisualworksPattyMinakaze.jpg|thumb|]]
* The color [[Ban Magami]]-drawn ''Victory'' pin-up piece featuring Patty in the ''[[Transformers Visualworks]]'' guidebook sports a slightly different color arrangement compared to the earlier color image of her in the ''[[G1 Transformers Character Encyclopedia]]'' guidebook. As well, her hair is colored more reddish brown than blond in the ''Visualworks'' image.
* While the ''Transformers Visualworks'' pin-up shows Jean wielding a sword and Solon brandishing a gun, Patty has... her fist.

{{DEFAULTSORT:Minakaze Patty}}
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Fractyl

2011-05-27T07:31:52Z

86.147.183.64:

{{factions|predacon|wreckers}}
:''Fractyl is a [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] from the [[Beast Wars (franchise)|Beast Wars]] portion of the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
[[Image:Fractyl bw.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Say, heard this joke the other cycle: "Why does a Decepticon wrap a Maximal in duct tape?"]]
From the moment he emerged from his [[stasis pod]], '''Fractyl''' has been more concerned with studying the strange planet's surplus [[Energon (fuel)|Energon]] than battling [[Maximal|Maximals]]. Though [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] tries to force him to be a warrior, it's no use. Fractyl is an excellent geochemist but he is, more often than not, a liability in battle.

Despite his shortcomings, Fractyl tries hard to gain the respect and admiration of his fellow Predacons, often to the detriment of the team. It seems the only one among them who does so is [[Vice Grip]].

==Fiction==
===''Tales from the Beast Wars''===
====Ground Zero====
[[Image:Fractyl critical mass.jpg|left|180px|thumb|Fractyl practices his end zone celebration by spiking the MacGuffin.]]
Fractyl discovered a new form of energy, which he named [[Furmanite]], and claimed that it could be used as an energon armor, shielding a Transformer from the effects of the Energon without the need of a beast mode. Instead of running more tests, he impulsively used it on himself, making sure it would work before presenting it to Megatron. Before he could bring it to Megatron, however, the Furmanite was stolen by the Maximal [[Packrat]].

Fractyl soon discovered Furmanite is actually anti-energon, a substance that could destroy the entire planet if it were exposed to high concentrations of energon. Fractyl risked both an encounter with the Maximals and the wrath of Megatron to catch Packrat before he went boom. He was able to reason with the Maximals and remove the Furmanite from Packrat, and even managed to make it look to the Predacons like he had driven off the Maximals single-handedly. Go, Fractyl. {{storylink|Ground Zero}}

====Visitations====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Doug Parker]] (English)

Fractyl and [[Vice Grip]] attacked Packrat and [[Onyx Primal]] as the two Maximals sought to recover a mysterious Plot Device, the [[Transfer Interlink]]. After being driven off when Maximal reinforcements arrived in the form of [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]] and [[Rattrap]], the two decided to go get drunk on mech fluid. {{storylink|Visitations}}

{{note|No, really. It is called "Plot Device" in the story.}}
===''Universe: Featuring the Wreckers''===
[[Image:Fractyl wreckers.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Surprisingly it's NOT Fractyl that ends up there this time.]]
Having joined the [[Wrecker|Wreckers]] under circumstances so far untold, Fractyl tagged along with [[Primal Prime]], [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus]] and [[Spittor (BW)|Spittor]] to try and coax [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] out of her sulking emo phase deep in the caves of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], where she went shortly after the death of [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel Witwicky]]. When the other Wreckers left frustrated and disappointed because Arcee wouldn't play with them, Fractyl stayed behind to talk, relating how he too had lost a good friend (presumably Vice Grip). He was then nearly killed by [[Blastcharge (BM)|Blastcharge]], but was saved by Arcee and the power of love. Fractyl later showed up in his shiny new body and paid Blastcharge back by slicing him in half. He used his new, jet-powered beast form to bring Arcee to the Wreckers' shuttle, which was already in the process of blasting off and leaving Cybertron. {{storylink|Departure}}

His victory was short-lived, though, as his seemingly buggy new body shorted out during a fight with [[Devcon (G1)|Devcon]] in the cargo hold of the Wreckers' shuttle. With no medic on board, [[Apelinq]] created a drone called [[CatSCAN]] to fill in. Fractyl was put into stasis for several cycles. {{storylink|Betrayal}}

After the Wreckers re-entered Cybertron's atmosphere, an emergency evacuation forced the crew to pull Fractyl and Rotorbolt out of their stasis. Rotorbolt came out more or less recovered, but Fractyl was still unconscious and in critical condition. While Rotorbolt considered putting Fractyl out of his misery, Tigatron intervened by using the last of his [[Vok]]-derived abilities to heal him. Fractyl, a geologist, was ironically out-of-action for the duration of the Wreckers' pursuit of the [[Divine Light]]. Once he was again operable, he was able to use his talents to analyze the prism-like object and give information to allow the Wreckers a victory over [[Cryotek (RID)|Cryotek]]. However, this victory had a terrible cost. At the battle's end, Arcee and Fractyl departed to bury the body of Rodimus in a secret underground Autobot burial site. {{storylink|Wreckers: Finale Part II}}

===IDW Comics===
Fractyl attended the Predacon military academy, being viciously bullied all the while. Though he barely graduated, he served under [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]], and produced enough scientific gadgets to make-up for his lack of battle prowess. {{storylink|Beast Wars Sourcebook}}
{{note|The Beast Wars Sourcebook alludes to events in which Fractyl participates, within the IDW version of the Beast Era timeline, being similar to events in the 3H comics. Many elements from both timelines are incompatible, meaning that although roughly analogous to each other, these events are likely not exactly the same in the two timelines.}}

==Toys==
===Beast Wars===
[[Image:BW-toy_Fractyl.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Once he ditches the rat, he'll be able to settle down with a nice girl.]]
* '''Fractyl & Packrat''' (Multi-pack, 1997)
**''Accessories:'': Gun

:Fractyl is a green, gray, and gold [[redeco]] of the original Basic-class [[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]], transforming into a large, organic ''Pteranodon'' with a spring-loaded, one-step transformation to robot mode. His green plastic was given a sparkly sheen to simulate the "energon armor" effect from the accompanying comic book. He came packaged with [[Packrat]] and was sold exclusively at [[BotCon 1997]].

:The same mold was used to make [[Hydra (BWN)|Hydra]], [[Lazorbeak]] and [[Terranotron (Dinobots)|Terranotron]]. It was planned to be used as a [[Unofficial conventions|TransCon II]] exclusive version of [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]], but that toy was canceled when Hasbro pulled its approval of the convention.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1997/Predacon/Fractyl/fractyl.htm More information on Fractyl at TFU.info]'''

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===Expanded Universe===
[[Image:Fractyl Catalog.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Looking spiffy in the Wreckers catalog.]]
*'''Fractyl''' (Deluxe Transmetal)
**''Accessories'': Left & right wing-blades

:Fractyl's [[Transmetal]] form was shown at [[BotCon 2001]] as a hand-painted prototype, made from a Transmetal [[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]]. This version was ultimately never produced, either as a general release or as a convention exclusive.

:This mold was later [[Redeco|redecoed]] and slightly [[Retool|retooled]] to make ''[[Beast Machines (toyline)|Beast Machines]]'' [[Terranotron (BM)|Terranotron]], and then redecoed and retooled ''differently'' to make ''[[Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' [[Terrorsaur (Armada)|Terrorsaur]]. The mold was also the base model for the non-toy character [[Ravenus]].

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==External links==
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Fractyl Fractyl's BotCon profile at NFTA.net]

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Swindle (Animated)

2011-03-28T20:29:31Z

86.147.10.202: /* Notes */

{{faction|decepticon}}
{{disambig3|Swindle}}
:''Swindle is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Swindleanimated.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"Ladies and gentlebots, I'm going to show you the greatest upgrade ever made. The SwindleCo™ Blast-o-Matic™ can blast your enemies to julienne fries with all the precision and quality you've come to expect from a SwindleCo™ product. But wait, there's more!"]]

Quick, hide the silver! An entrepreneur with few equals, the smooth-talking '''Swindle''' is always ready to make a deal. Trading extensively with many alien races and loaded down with their respective technologies, his goods are highly useful to interstellar warlords, bounty hunters, and many, many others. Though nominally a Decepticon, he just views the Cybertronian civil war as yet another business opportunity, one which has kept him living posh for centuries and could be great for his bottom line again now that it's starting back up.

{{quote|Scruples? You'd sell your own motherboard to the highest bidder.|[[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]] scoffs at Swindle's spiel|"[[SUV: Society of Ultimate Villainy]]"}}

==Fiction==
===''Animated'' cartoon===
{{Idw-tfa}}
:''Voice actor:'' [[Fred Willard]] (English), [[Nobutoshi Canna]] (Japanese), [[Dieter Memel]] (German), [[Ivo de Palma]] (Italian), [[Felipe Grinnan]] (Portuguese)

''While [[Blitzwing (Animated)|Blitzwing]] was negotiating with [[Lockdown (Animated)|Lockdown]], he was interrupted by [[Lugnut (Animated)|Lugnut]], who was incensed that his comrade-in-arms would deal with bounty-hunting scum. Finding himself outgunned in this fight, Blitzwing was ''extremely'' lucky to find that Swindle had chosen that moment to pay a visit to the base on [[New Kaon]]. Providing the Triple Changer with enhanced weaponry (and a convenient payment plan), Swindle watched as the fight escalated. Each time, he was more than happy to provide each side with ever-increasing hardware, up to and including planetbuster weaponry. So much for New Kaon. Once the pair of Decepticons found out that Swindle was arming ''both'' of them, they took things up with customer service, leaving Swindle a fair bit worse for wear. But, he took it in stride. After all, the customer is always right.'' {{storylink|Everything Must Go}}

[[Image:Swindle and weapon.jpg|left|200px|thumb|"What would you say if I told you that you don't have to fight Autobots? You'd say I'm crazy, right? That I'm out of my head? Well that is exactly what I'm telling you about this amazing product from SwindleCo™!"]]

Swindle found out about the situation on [[Earth]] after a little business transaction with Lockdown. Upon his arrival, he made a deal with the newly formed [[Society of Ultimate Villainy]]: they'd steal components he needed, and he'd give them monetary compensation. He set the arrangement up anonymously, communicating with them through the radio in their new getaway vehicle, a present of sorts that he'd provided. When they had stolen the parts, he had them construct a generator. Sadly, the deal went sour when he asked [[Slo-Mo]] to hand over her AllSpark-powered timepiece. She refused, and he let them in on his little secret: He ''was'' the getaway vehicle.

[[Image:TFASwindlefullyarmed.jpg|right|150px|thumb|"That's not all, though! If you order right now, I am offering this exclusive accessory package, compliments of the good folks here at SwindleCo™!"]]

He dispatched most of the SUV and used his force field (acquired in a deal with a race known as the [[Vok]] from [[Nexus Zero]], nice folks) to protect himself from Slo-Mo's watch. He took it from her and contacted his old client [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]]. After a few pleasantries, he demonstrated the generator's ability to freeze everything mechanical in Detroit, including the [[Autobot|Autobots]]. Unfortunately, before the deal could go through, [[Bumblebee (Animated)|a shielded Autobot]] and the SUV burst in and managed to knock him over the side of the parking block on which he had stationed himself. While he managed to reacquire the watch, he was frozen in his vehicle mode when a blast ricocheted off of the Autobot's shield. He was last seen being towed by [[Captain Fanzone|the police]], who promised to strip apart the paralyzed Decepticon and sell his insides at a police auction. Bloody ''hell!'' ([[B.O.T. (episode)|The irony probably wasn't lost on him]].) {{storylink|SUV: Society of Ultimate Villainy}}

Swindle was later "apprehended" by [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]]... in that Sentinel paid a fine to the Detroit police department and had the still-stuck-in-vehicle-mode Decepticon towed to the Autobot ship. {{storylink|Five Servos of Doom}} He and almost all of the Earth-based Decepticons were transported as prisoners back to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{storylink|Predacons Rising}}

Since Swindle was mode-locked and offline, the Elite Guard simply parked him in their ship's brig, not taking care to secure him. This proved to be a mistake when an energy storm in space revived him. Swindle freed the other Decepticons, waiving the usual service charge as a sign of good faith to friends of his "best customer" Megatron. Swindle was able to use the numerous gadgets and weapons inside his own [[subspace|personal storage dimension]] to re-arm the Decepticons and defeat the Elite Guard--as well as accessorizing the [[Starscream clone (Animated)|Starscream clones]] so he could [[conehead|finally tell them apart]]. His [[Sonic Jammer 3000]] got them through the Elite Guard's alarms and into the main bridge, plus handily incapacitated [[Jetfire (Animated)|Jetfire]] and [[Jetstorm (Animated)|Jetstorm]]. After [[Jazz (Animated)|Jazz]] and Sentinel fell, Swindle convinced Lugnut to spare their lives for now, as not only would the prisoners make good bargaining chips, but Elite Guard parts could make them enough credits on the black market to retire to a beach island on [[Nebulos]].

[[Image:TFAni Decepticon Air Swindle Optimus Hand.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Oh ''no''. Not ''again''.]]

Unfortunately for the Decepticons, Sentinel Prime had managed to get a [[Broken Lance|coded distress signal]] to Earth. The Earthbound Autobots were able to lock onto Swindle's private [[transwarp]] frequency and beam Optimus Prime right into Swindle's guts, giving them quite a surprise. Ordered by Lugnut to guard the prisoners while the rest chased after Optimus, Swindle instead took his time thoroughly looting the Elite Guard ship of as much valuable hardware as he could before making his getaway in an escape pod. {{storylink|Decepticon Air}}

{{quote|Guard the prisoners, or... loot the ship? It's a no-processor...er.|Swindle shows his true colors|"[[Decepticon Air]]"}}
{{--}}

==Travelogue==
{{quote|Now, at no extra charge, I'm willing to throw in these little items I picked up in a little excursion to the planet Dahros. By the way, if you should ever find yourself on Dahros, trust me, you do not want to visit the Northern hemisphere. The locals are surly, the service is lousy, and the energon is always watered down.|Swindle gives travel advice|"[[Everything Must Go]]"}}

Swindle travels extensively, to provide his customers spectacular bargains from the far corners of the universe. His trade route includes:

*The planet [[Andellor]], who make an excellent [[Anti-gravity gun|anti-gravity cannon]].<ref name="everything">[[Everything Must Go]]</ref>
*[[Cheyne]], builder of fine Circuitry repair patches. <ref name="almanac">[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac|The AllSpark Almanac]]</ref>
*[[Comb|Com]], where the Nemesis Shield type 2B is available.<ref name="almanac"/>
*The planet [[Darhos|Dahros]], which produces the amazing product that is [[glass gas]].<ref name="everything"/>
*[[Devola]], where he purchased escape ships.<ref name="almanac"/>
*[[Ganzvort]], home of the [[Omega bomb]]. He noted that he had to visit Okayama at some point.<ref name="almanac"/>
*[[Garro|Garo]], where [[Nemesis Shield]] type 11A can be purchased.<ref name="almanac"/>
*[[Menonia]], source of the robotic panacea of "[[Menonian super glue|super glue]]".<ref name="everything"/>
*[[Nebulos]], where the energon is exceptionally smooth, and one can retire to live the good life on a tropical island.<ref name = "con air"/>
*[[Nexus Zero]], where the [[Vok]] manufacture superior force-field technology.<ref name="suv">[[SUV: Society of Ultimate Villainy]]</ref>
*[[Quintessa]], where he picked up the fantastic [[Sonic Jammer 3000]] for a great price, as well as all the oil he could drink.<ref name="con air"/>
*[[Prysmos]], a future stop on his itinerary where he will trade with the [[Visionaries|Darkling Lords]].<ref name="almanac"/>
*[[Pz-Zazz]], where he visited the scenic fifth moon.<ref name="con air">[[Decepticon Air]]</ref>
*[[Talos Four]], manufacturers of the [[triple crusher cannon]].<ref name="everything"/>
*The world of [[Torkulon]], source of the spectacular [[Torkulonian decompression pump|decompression pump]].<ref name="everything"/>
*The home of Vandarian holographic technology, which Lockdown finds useful.<ref name="almanac"/>
*[[Xeptos]], the source of [[Chaosmaster Bomb]]s.<ref name="almanac"/>

==Toys==
===Animated===
[[Image:SwindleDeluxe.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"Are you seeing this? Are you loving this? I'm so excited I could almost spring a leak."]]
*'''Swindle''' (Deluxe, 2008)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''TA-36'''
**''Accessories'': Large "[[Scatter blaster]]" gun, missile

: Part of the fifth wave of ''Animated'' Deluxes, Swindle transforms into an armored Humvee-styled vehicle with a roof-mounted cannon. This cannon mounts on his right arm in robot mode, and features a spring-loaded launching [[missile]]. The cannon also features an additional [[gimmick]]: when the missile is inserted into the cannon, the slits on the weapon change from a deep, clear purple (the same color used for the eyes, chest windows, upper arms and fingers) to a painted orange-red. He also features a flip-out Gatling gun in his midsection, as well as his twin over-shoulder double-blasters. The Gatling ''can'' be deployed in vehicle mode (and is even depicted on the cardback that way), but it rides so low that the front wheels won't touch the ground. Swindle's cartoon-accurate cat-like pupils are simulated by carefully placed air bubbles within the [[light-piping]] plastic.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/Swindle/swindle.htm More information on Swindle at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:AnimatedMercenarySwindle.jpg|thumb| Hi! Swindle here with the new [[Black repaint|Mercenary]] paint scheme. It's sleek, it's stylish, and it can belong to you. Simply order now and receive the special digital [[paint operation|paint app]] for your preferred mobile device!]]
*'''Mercenary Swindle''' (Deluxe)
**''Accessories'': Large "[[Scatter blaster]]" gun, missile

: A redeco of Swindle from tan brown to army green and clear purple to clear red.

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==Notes==
* Swindle made his appearance because [[Derrick J. Wyatt]] lobbied ''hard'' for him to show up.<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/interviews-27/tfw2005-interviews-transformers-animated-story-editor-marty-isenberg-165509/ Interview with story editor Marty Isenberg]</ref>

* Swindle's design is quite heavily influenced by his [[Swindle (G1)|Generation 1 namesake]]'s animation [[character model]], from the "squarehead" with large, purple optics to the windshield-chest with grill-stomach to the right-arm-mounted cannon which can be mounted on the back of his vehicle mode. As a result, Swindle is the first of only [[Wasp|two]] Decepticons to not have red eyes in Animated.

* Swindle is a double-homage, as he also features a chest cannon that is quite similar to his [[Swindle (Movie)|movie namesake]]'s.

* He also makes a reference to ''Binaltech'' Swindle, who possessed a force field because his body was meant to be [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]]'s, but couldn't use it. This Swindle doesn't have that issue.

* He is apparently colorblind, as he can't tell the difference between a [[Sunstorm (Animated)|yellow and orange suck-up]] and a [[Ramjet (Animated)|grey and red liar]].

* He has a [[Wikipedia:bolo tie|bolo tie]]. That's awesome.

* Swindle also possesses a chest compartment which is capable of storing many, many things, such as weapons, Seeker accessories, and even an [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|entire Autobot]]. Though, at first glance, this sounds virtually impossible, Swindle explains that he has a transwarp link to his own "personal storage dimension" within this compartment.

* Derrick J. Wyatt has noted that Swindle's mannerisms are based on [[wikipedia:Ron Popeil|Ron Popeil]]. In fact, in "Everything Must Go", Swindle even uses Ron's signature catch-phrase "Now, how much would you pay?", and in "Decepticon Air" he uses Ron's other catchphrase, "But wait, there's more!" (Coincidentally enough, [["Weird Al" Yankovic]] has done a song about Popeil...)

* Despite the two having never been seen together in the show, Swindle is apparently [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]]'s 'agent', by the latter's [[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac|testimony.]]

==References==
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[[Category:Animated Decepticons]]
[[Category:Merchants]]

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==Commercials==
Hey, had a few questions/thoughts regarding the [[Commercial]] page and wanted to see what you thought about them.

1. The narrator for most of the RID commercials sounds like Neil Kaplan. Would you agree? I think we could email him about that through his website, but would an unpublished e-mail be good enough for confirmation?

2. Along the same vein, I'm really starting to think Even Keel is none other than David Kaye. Again, do you think it's him? We could probably get someone to ask him at BotCon this year (I'd do it myself but I'm not able to attend).

3. Found some interesting info here: http://www.kwcc.com/house/credits/lead.html
But I'm not sure just how to integrate it into the wiki, or if there's enough there to justify it.

4. Thinking about the non-network cartoon promos, what would constitute enough evidence to show it was a nationally used promo. Would clips of the same promo on two different stations be sufficient, or do we need more?

5. Came up with one more, regarding the Energon Optimus/Scorponok commercial. The static, "Each sold separately", shot of the toys doesn't just have the two featured toys. It also has Energon Unicron! I can't find any reference to a longer version of this commercial anywhere online. Is it possible a longer version of such a recent commercial could completely escape the fandom's notice? Or was it left on the cutting room floor and the end shot is all that made it to air?

6. On the subject of movie trailers, I'm not finding any evidence to support what you have listed for #2 and #3. #2 appears to be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbF4mv891Nk which is a fan-made trailer. As for #3, I can't find any example of it. The description seems to be the same as that of "Hidden". What were you basing those entries on? On a related note, the menu on disc 2 of the DVD special edition as well as the file name for the same content on the HD-DVD version refers to the teaser trailer as Teaser Trailer #1. So I think that's why the first full length trailer is listed as #2. What #3 is or was, I've no idea.

--[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 22:19, 4 May 2009 (EDT)

:Sorry I haven't addressed any of these... just haven't had time. I don't know much about the post-G1 commercials, only what I've been able to dig up online, and it's been a long time since I put some of this together. I'll try and put in some time on this next week. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 12:17, 31 May 2009 (EDT)

::Not a problem. I'm sorry about going overkill with my messages. The lack of response for so long gave me the impression you didn't know the list was here. I'll be more patient in the future.

::As for the list, take all the time you need. I'd prefer the movie trailer entry to be looked at first, if possible. I have one minor addition in that I found a third Dinobot commercial: http://www.retrostatic.com/videos/p803_sectionid/999999/p803_js_on/1/p803_fileid/483
::I'm wondering if this one ever made it to air? Some of the aesthetics are so different from other G1 commercials that it seems like a test version or something. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 23:28, 31 May 2009 (EDT)

:::Looks like you were right about the two 2007 movie "trailers". I think those are all pretty well sorted out now... unless somebody wants to start a list of Japanese ads, which would open a huge can of worms since it would mean going back to G1 as well. (that'd probably need to be a separate page.)
:::I don't have enough grasp on Neil Kaplan or David Kaye's "natural" voices to figure out if they were narrating those ads, though I'll have a listen when I have time. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 11:20, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

::::Ok, cool. Since you've been going through the 2007 Movie tv spots I thought you might want to see this list: http://www.themoviebox.net/movies/2007/STUVWXYZ/Transformers/trailer.php Several of the spots you have listed appear to have actual "names" (not just according to the list but Michael Bay's MySpace account and other seemingly official sources) instead of being the "Nickelodeon spot version A". I believe there's even some that aren't currently listed.
::::Funny you should mention the Japanese ads, as I had thought about that myself. But given the can of worms as you said, plus the need for translation help, I don't know if I'd try tackling it anytime soon.
::::On a almost unrelated note, why did you remove the Micromasters commercial entry? I don't think it was redundant and I did find a video of it (Just hadn't gotten around to updating the Wiki): http://www.retrostatic.com/videos/p803_sectionid/13/p803_fileid/675/p803_js_on/1 --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 22:49, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::That's the same one listed as "Micromaster Patrols", far as I can tell. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 00:20, 5 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::Holy crap, that movie spot list is AMAZING. I'm not sure what to do with all those clips... I guess they should go in their own section? Or are they even worth full entries? Dunno. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 00:57, 5 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::Ah, you are correct about the Micromaster commercials. Nice catch sir.
::::::I think for the clips we should have a section saying something to the effect of "Preview clips of the movie were released to various TV shows and websites" followed by a list of the clips with brief descriptions. They're really just single scenes shown as is, so the only things to note about them are the when and where of the release and what scene. It probably goes without saying that only clips that were released as part of Paramount's/Hasbro's promotional strategy (or through a rogue Bay) should be included. I don't particularly trust that list in regards to the descriptions of the clips. Looking through the list, I found at least one of those is actually just the final trailer. Could be other issues where the site or TV show they link to isn't where the clip originated. The other sections look like they're accurate, but I would double check the clip descriptions to be safe. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 19:05, 7 June 2009 (EDT)

I was going through [[Commercial]] again and had two sets of questions. First, I noticed that someone named the narrator for [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sxMlvn3Dsw Autobot Cars plus Thrust and Dirge] as You're Gonna Get It. That edit was lost to the Bookworm crash, so I'm hoping you might know where that name came from. Related to that, I think that narrator is the same as the one used for [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df5GGZ3we68 Mini-Spies] and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbcwV818LuA Omega Supreme]. Do you agree?

The second set of questions is about the "Original cartoons on VHS". Is this referring to the promos that were on the tapes themselves or a spot that actually aired on TV? If it's the latter, should we add an entry for the former? --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 00:14, 17 September 2009 (EDT)

:<nowiki>*</nowiki>Nudge* Just wanted to see if you had an answer to the VHS question above. The other is just for personal curiosity so you could forget that altogether. Also want to point out my musings at [[Talk:Commercial#International Spots]] --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 02:23, 22 November 2009 (EST)
::IIRC the "cartoons on VHS" was a TV spot I found somewhere at some point. The promos on the tapes themselves is definitely worth a mention.
::I didn't add the name for the Autobot Cars spot... no idea where it came from. It's been so long since Iworked on this stuff that I don't remember much of it anymore.
::International spots? Go for it! I'd say a whole separate section at the bottom of the commercials page, rather than appending them to each franchise section. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 02:39, 22 November 2009 (EST)
:::<facepalms> I just plugged "Transformers VHS" into YouTube and the VHS TV spot was the second video listed [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ_VcOThVZM]. And I have the RetroJunk link in my list of TF ad links. I have no clue why I didn't write it up when I found it or how I completely forgot I found it. Sorry for bugging you about that. Regarding the international, I'm compiling a simple list of any non-Japanese spots so I can see how much volume there is. The combined total is 29 currently. Enough for an 'international' subpage I would think. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 02:41, 23 November 2009 (EST)

==Rob's Big To-Do List!==
An ever-changing list of stuff that needs taking care of. I'll get to it eventually, but if anyone else wants to pitch in, go for it!

===Season 2 eps===
* Probably by [[Toei]]:
** The Immobilizer
** Autobot Spike
** Traitor
** Atlantis, Arise!
** Enter the Nightbird
** Day of the Machines
** The Insecticon Syndrome
** Dinobot Island 1 & 2
** The Master Builders
** Auto-Berserk
** Microbots

* By the other studio:
** Attack of the Autobots
** A Prime Problem

===Fun things!===
* [[Scorponok (G1)]] - comic pics

===Six teams - main pics?===
* Sixbuilder:
**[[Digger]] the excavator.
**[[Gran Arm]] the front-end loader.
**[[Iron Lift]] the crane.
**[[Mixing]] the cement mixer.
**[[Treader]] the dump truck.

* Sixturbo:
**[[Circuit (OC)|Circuit]] the F-1 race car.
**[[Neo-Wheel]] the Lamborghini.
**[[Sireen]] the ambulance.

* Sixtrain:
**[[Convertor (OC)|Convertor]]
**[[San D-Go]]
**[[Windy]]

* Sixwing:
** [[Chain Gun]] the AH-64 Apache helicopter.
** [[Falcon (OC)|Falcon]] the F-16 Falcon jet.
** [[Flanker]] the Sukhoi Su-27 "Flanker" jet.
** [[Missile Run]] the B-1B Lancer bomber plane.
** [[Raker]] the Space Shuttle.
** [[Supersonic]] the Super-Sonic Transport plane.

===Subgroup pages===
Needs work:
* [[Micromaster]] - images and fiction (DW:MM, SL:Nightbeat, SL:Hardhead), subgroup pages

As done as I can make them:

* [[Auto Roller]] - needs pics and better writeup than I can provide.
* [[Stormtrooper (G1)]] - needs pics and toy writeup.
* [[Predator]] - needs pics and toy writeup
* [[Spy Changer]] - needs writeup for redecos

Mostly done:

* [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]]
* [[Transmetal 2]]
* [[Transmetal]]
* [[Junkion (species)]] - pic
* [[Dinobot (G1)]]
* [[Omnicon]]
* [[Predacon (G1)]]
* [[Terrorcon (Energon)]]
* [[Duocon]]
* [[Horrorcon]]
* [[Insecticon (G1)]]
* [[Triple Changer]] - **STILL NEEDS FICTION WRITEUP**
* [[Omnibot (G1)|Omnibot]]
* [[Laser Cycle]]
* [[Cyberjet]]
* [[Fuzor]]
* [[Rotor Force]]
* [[Powermaster]]
* [[Pretender]]

===Additions===

* Production info for Armada, Energon, Cybertron, Robots in Disguise.
* Pack-in flyer - cleanup? Split? additions? Find "Can One Boy, Alone..." and do page.
* Find a better front image for toy - something with a lot of toys from different franchises. Find a BotCon and/or eBay shot for the Secondary Market section. Find more prototype/test shot photos.
* Packaging needs a ton of work and lots of images. Keep an eye out for MISB toy photos.
* Coloring books - new pages, template box

===Cleanup===

* Universe (comic) issues are still a mess. They should all look like this page when all's said and done.
** Overview page looks awful.
** Most issue pages look awful.
* UK Annual text stories -- which ones fit with the mainline comic?
** Trigger-Happy - has Megatron and Scoop on Earth, so, no.
** The Quest! - one of those recap-the-storyline ones.
** The Return of the Transformers
** To a Power Unknown
** Headmasters retelling trio
** Plague of the Insecticons!
** Hunted!
** Missing in Action
** The Mission

Toyline pages: Most of these are just straight lists of toys. They need overview writeups: what common elements did the toys have, standard gimmicks, packaging notes, sub-lines, items of special note, reception by fans and general public, images of some sample toys.

* Movie (toyline) -- main line has writeup & images. Many sublines have nothing. Add cross-sells.
* Beast Machines (toyline) - needs images/cross-sells.
* Robots in Disguise (toyline) - needs images/cross-sells.
* Beast Wars (toyline) - cleanup, more pics/cross-sells
* Universe (toyline) - Needs more write-up, and images. Purple Silverbolt would be ideal. Or catalog.

Standard format:

* Armada (Panini comic)

==Questions to ask of official-type people==

* Furman:
** Was "Tales of Earth" designed to work around Yanniger's slow production pace?
** What was the Transformer life sign "in two parts" in US #74?
* Budiansky: was the US #5-12 written with the possibility of the series ending at #12 in mind?
* Hasbro team: can you talk a bit about "play patterns" and how they affect toy design? (word this so it doesn't sound so dumb)
* G1 crew: Were there any intentional efforts to reduce the use of certain toys in one particular media if they were heavily used in other media? Skids, for example, hardly shows up in the cartoon at all, but gets heavy promotion in the Marvel Comics. Shockwave also plays a much diminished role in the cartoon compared to his comics role.

==Comic series organization project==

MARVEL GENERATION ONE
Marvel Comics - publisher page. Short overview of the series, and links to:

Generation 1 (Marvel Comics) - Series overview page. Covers the US series and the UK series. Needs more images -- UK comic covers in particular.
Generation 2 (Marvel Comics) - Series overview page.
G.I. Joe and the Transformers
Headmasters (comic)
Transformers Universe (Marvel comic)

Marvel_Comics_continuity - page about the continuity. Still need to link more stuff back to this page.
http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Marvel_US_issues - not so critical now that everything's got nav boxes.

DREAMWAVE GENERATION ONE
Dreamwave - publisher. Lists issues but is mostly about the company.
Dreamwave timeline
Dreamwave continuity

IDW GENERATION ONE
IDW Publishing - publisher page. Intro to rebooted continuity and list of issues ordered by date of publication.
IDW timeline
IDW continuity

DEVIL'S DUE
Devil's Due - publisher page. Short history, list of miniseries.
Devil's Due timeline - No timeline page at present.
G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers continuity - Continuity overview page. Also lists the four miniseries. They should all link back to it.

G1 CARTOON
Generation 1 (cartoon)
Generation 1 cartoon timeline
Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)
Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)/src
No continuity page at present.

BEAST ERA CARTOONS
Beast Era - short overview page, links to main franchise pages.
Beast Wars (cartoon)
Beast Machines (cartoon)
Beast Era timeline - page doesn't exist yet.
No continuity page at present.
==Something to help your Energon recaps==

I recommend referring to NTFA for the japanese episode names and airdates of both series:

* Superlink names and airdates
* Energon names and airdates

I've added the info into the pages you've already done, so to simply follow what's already been written I recommend placing the Japanese SL airdate before the US Energon airdate in the Stats section, given that SL aired first and Energon suffered horrible gaps in episodes aired ;) --FFN 15:54, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Very late, but I just wanted to say how useful this info has been. -- Repowers 05:07, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

==Were you looking for this the other day?==

http://www.emopanda.com/tmp/Energon%20-%2017%20-%20Return%20of%20Demolisher.avi

Yeah, somebody found it for me, somewhere or other. I haven't gotten around to it yet; I've had to slow down on the Energon in general to preserve my brain cells. Thanks! -- Repowers 21:17, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I think that was me, and I linked you to the wrong episode marked as Return of Demolisher on Veoh. -Derik 22:04, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

==Sorry==

Sorry for overreacting. Thanks for fixing my userpage, much appreciated.--Detour 05:02, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
==Avast all-powerful Admin!==

Go port the contents of the MediaWiki:Recentchangestext talk page over to the page itself. I wants me logs back! -Derik 06:18, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure how to do this thing you speak of. You want me to move this page to this page? -- Repowers 06:27, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

So is it easier for an admin to clear out the contents of a category than to just go item-by-item? (I'm a bit unclear on how this works.) -Derik 08:10, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

If there's a way to delete multiple items, it's not showing up on my screen, and I did just spend a few minutes looking around for it. I'm just going one-by-one down the list. -- Repowers 08:11, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

The category list, or the file list? (I'm trying to figure out if there's any point to me flagging these images with a speedy deletion 'cat.) -Derik 08:19, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

Category list. I didn't know there was a file list. Maybe I need to look harder. (I have a bad habit of never going to the Special Pages list.) -- Repowers 08:22, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

Interrobang pointed it out, except you can't just delete blind, because a certain part of the way down it switches into real files. Is it any more convenient to have 'em in a category than this? -Derik 08:34, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

Arg, no, there's no mass-delete function there either. I dunno if Suki or Walky might have such an option, but I do not. Unfortunate, 'cause there's a ton of these things, and the click-click-click-back button method of deleting them is slow and painful. -- Repowers 08:38, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

Given my choices I'd just have Deceptitran do it direct-- (he's already got all the problem files scaped to his database) but he doesn't have deletion privileges. :p -Derik 08:52, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

==Sorry for that..==

Was not looking at where I was posting. Sorry again. --KyleMD03 19:01, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
==Thanks for the Transmutate finishing summary==

Thanks for finishing Transmutate. But now I'm curious...not all the episode headers are standardized or link to the next/previous ones. Should we fix that? Speedball 01:23, 25 September 2008 (EDT)

Yeah, i don't know what's up with that. Some kind of new template that they were fooling around with. -- Repowers 01:40, 25 September 2008 (EDT)

==That Nightbeat GO! box==

Those white edges are pretty raw and ugly there. I put up a PSD template [1] here for all to use, much cleaner. Give it a retry. --M Sipher 10:13, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
==Micromaster base articles, especially the Gas station==

You are the wind beneath my wings. --FFN 13:24, 26 September 2008 (EDT)

You have any idea how goddamn freezin' cold it is here in your shadow?! -- Repowers 14:49, 26 September 2008 (EDT)

Too bad. Take it up with Bette Midler. --FFN 16:10, 26 September 2008 (EDT)

==Golden One's pupil==

Identified in the dialogue script as "Old Man"; the Red Wizard in his form, meanwhile, is identified as "Monk". Kinda funny when you consider they identify the Red Wizard's PET with a name... --Monzo 13:46, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Does the script actually call the winged thing "sweet pet", like a name and not just an abstract term of 'affection'? -- Repowers 14:34, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

==Can I get you anything?==

Cold flannel? Chicken soup? Stomach pump? You must be a physical and mental wreck after that horrifying effort. Summarizing the whole of Energon should be the dictionary definition of taking one (or fifty-one) for the team. - Chris McFeely 21:09, 1 November 2008 (EDT)

You can find someone to take on Armada in its entirety, thereby ensuring that any lingering notions I might have of taking it on myself are well and truly squashed. Oy! -- Repowers 21:20, 1 November 2008 (EDT)

==A heads up==

Particularly unobservant people on TFW2005.com are discussing creating articles on TFW Funnies or whatever the hell they are on this wiki. So yeah, just a heads up in case anybody decides it would be a good idea to create articles on TF webcomics and fan fiction. --FFN 13:57, 17 December 2008 (EST)
==Flyer scans==

Hey Rob, I've added some flyer pages and brought a bunch of others up to speed, so I hope your friggin' happy. One that I don't have, though, is "The battle is far from over!", and I was wondering if you can make more scans of it. I'd like to see... well, basically all of it, but I'm thinking the front, folded up (to match the others) and the S.T.A.R.S. recruitment blurb in particular. Basically, whatever content is different from Reinforcements from Cybertron!, since I think this would be the very first mention of S.T.A.R.S., and I'd like to know exactly how it was initially presented. Thanks! - Jackpot 22:47, 28 December 2008 (EST)

Well it's about damn time!! :P I'll try and scan that one this evening and post it up somewhere. -- Repowers 14:28, 29 December 2008 (EST)

* Outside fold
* Inside fold

Go nuts! -- Repowers 00:13, 30 December 2008 (EST)

Nuts gone! Thank you muchly, sir. - Jackpot 04:27, 30 December 2008 (EST)

==US/UK navboxes==

From this earlier revision of your talk page: "Looks like the proper way to do it, but seeing Headmasters chopped up like that hurts my head."

Yeah, the slicing and dicing of headmasters was kind of a headache for me too, but looking through the issues and usch, it seems that this crazy wrongheaded order is the best way to do it. I'll stop futzing with the nav link chains on my UK re-formatting efforts. -- G1MarvelBlaster 08:58, 30 December 2008 (EST)

It's definitely screwy, but then, so was the original publication format. I console myself by remembering that if someone wants to thumb through the full sequence of Headmasters issues, there's the US nav links right above the UK ones. -- Repowers 14:25, 30 December 2008 (EST)

Heaven forfend we should have an alternate set "reading order" links when publication order doesn't measure up. No, that would be just silly. What kind of drunken fool would propose such a thing when the navbox template was being developed? "If we have a reading order function it'll save a lot of angst and headaches over peopel who want the forward-and-back publication order links to represent a reading order." Utter poppycock! -Derik 18:16, 6 January 2009 (EST)

*wonders if this is a good time to mention that, while going through and reformatting lots and lots of comic pages, she has thought about how awesome it would be to set up reading order lists for the various series and have the infoboxes automatically call them somehow instead of futzing with manual prev/next links*
I even know a way to possibly auto-prev and next comic series that are "Name issue #" thanks to something I had to cook up for my own personal wiki... --Jeysie 18:47, 6 January 2009 (EST)

==CamelCase variants==

The search function doesn't care how many capital letters you put in your search term, it'll take you to "BotCon", even if the "Botcon" page does not exist. —Interrobang 18:09, 6 January 2009 (EST)

Fer real? I've had lots of case-based search problems in the past, thought that was with multiple search terms. -- Repowers 18:12, 6 January 2009 (EST)

Yeah. "CRACK", "crack", "CrAcK", and "cRaCk" all take you to "Crack" if you enter them into the search box. —Interrobang 18:21, 6 January 2009 (EST)

...And it turns out this doesn't work on articles with CamelCase titles. Urgh. —Interrobang 18:24, 6 January 2009 (EST)

==Er...?==

Not that I think they're needed, but is there a reason you're deleting all the redirects Siph and Monzo created over the past few days? It's just kind of weird seeing their creation clogging up the recent changes, and now they're all deleted again.--RosicrucianTalk 16:42, 17 January 2009 (EST)

cur) (last) 18:22, 2 July 2006 M Sipher (Talk | block) (24 bytes) (Shortround (UT) moved to Shortround)
2006 is "the last couple of days"? -- Repowers 16:48, 17 January 2009 (EST)

Maybe I'm misjudging. Was all the recent activity on those marking them for deletion, then?--RosicrucianTalk 16:51, 17 January 2009 (EST)

Yeah. We stopped using (UT) ages ago (almost none of them are linked from anything -- I've been checking and fixing as needed.) I'm kinda shocked that there are this many still hanging around. -- Repowers 16:52, 17 January 2009 (EST)

I could also be going crazy, because I can't find the edits in question. Of course, that's likely because you've just deleted them :P--RosicrucianTalk 17:01, 17 January 2009 (EST)

I think you're confusing Monzo and Sipher labelling them for deletion as them creating the redirects. Since they put the delete template below the redirect code, the edit summaries automatically come up as "Redirected to X". —Interrobang 17:04, 17 January 2009 (EST)

Ah, so THAT is why some of them automatically redirected and others didn't. Innnnnteresting.
And yeah, last night in IRC Siph is all "Monz why don't you just nuke that (UT) junk" and Monz is all like "OMG DUDE LOL I'm totally not an admin." -- Repowers 17:07, 17 January 2009 (EST)

==Quote purging?==

Just out of curiousity, what's with all the quote deletions on the Animated episode pages? I don't really see any reason to delete them. It seems to be a shame, really. --Nightshade83 15:41, 28 January 2009 (EST)

It's come up many times that these sections are longer than they need to be. Most of the ones I'm cutting aren't particularly noteworthy or interesting or good or even comprehensible out of context. If anything, I'm being extremely lenient in what I cut. -- Repowers 15:44, 28 January 2009 (EST)

The quote sections are growing out-of-control . . . pruning them is a valuable service, IMO. --Jimsorenson 15:45, 28 January 2009 (EST)

Ah okay. I was just wondering, that's all. --Nightshade83 15:49, 28 January 2009 (EST)

Also -- a lot of these aren't really even quotes in a functional sense. They're transcriptions of entire scenes (which, like the first quote on Megatron Rising I, may be fun or memorable scenes, but not feature especially noteworthy dialog), or descriptions of action which happen to have some words in the middle of them, or attempts to transcribe a moment of particularly memorable voice acting, or totally mundane quotes that are only there because someone thought of a cute commentary to put after it (or worse still, a really-stretching OMG G1 cross-reference.) But that's not what a quote is really supposed to be. A quote should be memorable or clever or character-defining even out of context, even without scene descriptions, even if a person's never seen the episode. It should be relatively short and succinct, require minimal description, and not rely on prior knowledge to make sense. -- Repowers 16:01, 28 January 2009 (EST)

==Categories in Preview mode==

They're still there. You just have to scroll waaaaay down to see 'em.--RosicrucianTalk 20:03, 3 February 2009 (EST)
==Other Books

* Bunch here

* More here

I'd never even heard of some these before, like the Decepticon Camp one. --Monzo 00:35, 12 February 2009 (EST)

EDIT: Actually, this looks like this is the full gallery for that first page. Oops. --Monzo 00:38, 12 February 2009 (EST)

Aw man, just when I thought I was starting to get a grip on all this stuff. I both love and hate you for this. :D -- Repowers 00:39, 12 February 2009 (EST)

==Rob's Big To-Do List!==
An ever-changing list of stuff that needs taking care of. I'll get to it eventually, but if anyone else wants to pitch in, go for it!

'''General cleanup:'''
* Production info for ''[[Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]'', ''[[Energon (cartoon)|Energon]]'', ''[[Cybertron (cartoon)|Cybertron]]'', ''[[Robots in Disguise (cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]''.
* [[Pack-in flyer]] - cleanup? Split? additions?
* Find a better front image for [[toy]].
* [[Universe (2003 comic)]] issues are still a mess. They should all look like [[G.I._Joe_vs._the_Transformers_II_issue_2|this page]] when all's said and done.
** Overview page looks awful.
** Most issue pages look awful.
** The caption "The universe is very large place." has not been used. SOMETHING MUST BE DONE.
* UK Annual text stories -- which ones fit with the mainline comic?
** [[Trigger-Happy!]] - has Megatron and Scoop on Earth, so, no.
** [[The Quest!]] - one of those recap-the-storyline ones.
** [[The Return of the Transformers]]
** [[To a Power Unknown!]]
** Headmasters retelling trio
** [[Plague of the Insecticons!]]
** [[Hunted!]]
** [[Missing in Action]]
** [[The Mission]]

* UK Future Autobot stories -- cross-link somehow?
** [[Ark Duty]]
** [[Prime's Rib!]]
** [[Ark Duty]]
** [[Target: 2006]]
** Death's Head / Legacy of Unicron / Space Pirates
** [[Time Wars]]
** Dystopic future saga
** [[Aspects of Evil!]]
** [[Peace]]

'''Toyline pages:''' Most of these are just straight lists of toys. They need overview writeups: what common elements did the toys have, standard gimmicks, packaging notes, sub-lines, items of special note, reception by fans and general public, images of some sample toys.
* [[Generation 1 (toyline)]] -- Just about perfect.
* [[Generation 2 (toyline)]] -- needs re-writing, and images.
* [[Movie (toyline)]] -- main line has writeup & images. Many sublines have nothing. Add cross-sells.
* [[Beast Machines (toyline)]] - needs images/cross-sells.
* [[Robots in Disguise (toyline)]] - needs images/cross-sells.
* [[Cybertron (toyline)]] - cleanup, images.
* [[Beast Wars (toyline)]] - cleanup.
* [[Machine Wars]] - needs a few images.
* [[Universe (2003 toyline)]] - Needs more write-up, and images. Purple Silverbolt would be ideal. Or catalog.

'''Standard format:'''
* [[Armada (Panini comic)]]

==Comic series organization project==
MARVEL GENERATION ONE
 [[Marvel Comics]] - publisher page. Short overview of the series, and links to:
::[[Generation 1 (Marvel Comics)]] - Series overview page. Covers the US series and the UK series. Needs more images -- UK comic covers in particular.
::[[Generation 2 (Marvel Comics)]] - Series overview page.
::[[G.I. Joe and the Transformers]]
::[[Headmasters (comic)]]
::[[Transformers Universe (Marvel comic)]]
 [[Marvel_Comics_continuity]] - page about the continuity. Still need to link more stuff back to this page.
 http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Marvel_US_issues - not so critical now that everything's got nav boxes.

DREAMWAVE GENERATION ONE
 [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] - publisher. Lists issues but is mostly about the company.
 [[Dreamwave timeline]]
 [[Dreamwave Generation One continuity]]

IDW GENERATION ONE
 [[IDW Publishing]] - publisher page. Intro to rebooted continuity and list of issues ordered by date of publication.
 [[IDW timeline]]
 [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW continuity]]

DEVIL'S DUE
 [[Devil's Due Press]] - publisher page. Short history, list of miniseries.
 [[Devil's Due timeline]] - No timeline page at present.
 [[G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers continuity]] - Continuity overview page. Also lists the four miniseries. They should all link back to it.

G1 CARTOON
 [[Generation 1 (cartoon)]]
 [[Generation 1 cartoon timeline]]
 [[Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)]]
 [[Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)/src]]
 No continuity page at present.

BEAST ERA CARTOONS
 [[Beast Era]] - short overview page, links to main franchise pages.
 [[Beast Wars (cartoon)]]
 [[Beast Machines (cartoon)]]
 [[Beast Era timeline]] - page doesn't exist yet.
 No continuity page at present.



==Testing Comics nav template for mini-series==

'''''The Transformers: Infiltration''''' is the first in a line of miniseries by [[IDW Publishing]] set in a "re-boot" of the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] continuity, bringing the presence on [[Earth]] of the [[Autobot]]s and [[Decepticon]]s into the present day and placing the "robots in disguise" concept firmly in the forefront of its narrative. Infiltration is set in the same time period as ''[[Stormbringer (comics)|The Transformers: Stormbringer]]'' and both are followed by ''[[Escalation (IDW)|The Transformers: Escalation]]''.

{{comicnav | IDW continuity | Infiltration | seriesname=IDW continuity | prev= | next=Escalation (IDW)}}

{|style="margin:0 auto;padding:0 auto" align=center id=toc
!align=center bgcolor=#6699CC|'''''Infiltration'' issues:'''
|-align=center
|| [[Infiltration issue 0|#0]] | [[Infiltration issue 1|#1]] | [[Infiltration issue 2|#2]] | [[Infiltration issue 3|#3]] | [[Infiltration issue 4|#4]] | [[Infiltration issue 5|#5]] | [[Infiltration issue 6|#6]]
|}
{{-}}

...man, that doesn't really work, does it. What comes next -- ''Stormbringer''? ''Escalation''? One of the ''Spotlight''s?
:IDW's timeline is epochal, with each successive era marked by it's G1 miniseries. There may be other events that take place between the minis-- even (in the case of Stormbringer) major events but the G1 minis are the 'core' of the brand. We need a markup that recognizes this. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:08, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, that makes sense... so long as they all also link back to a continuity page so the complete picture is available as well. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 15:01, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I know I'm really late, but the IDW TPBs are numbered. Volume 1 is Infiltration, 2 is Stormbringer, and 3 is Escalation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:47, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Ah, handy! Will adjust accordingly. I kinda gave up on the mini-series nav box idea anyway -- it seems a bit like overkill. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 19:12, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

==Images==
Hi, as the self-appointed pics guy (as I probably upload the most pics here), I'd suggest that you use Photoshop to edit out the backgrounds of the MTMTE scans you upload, so we're left with a nice, white background that matches the default colour of the wiki.

I'd also advise you to use copyright tags when uploading images such as:

<nowiki>{{hastak}}</nowiki> for Hasbro/Takara-owned images such as stock toy photos or screencaps.

<nowiki>{{comicinterior}}</nowiki> for comic page scans (which apply for the MTMTE series).

<nowiki>{{comiccover}}</nowiki> for comic covers.

<nowiki>{{fairuse}}</nowiki> for general pictures relating to Transformers but not exactly owned by Hasbro, or its a legal grey area. This can be used when you upload toy photos that you didn't take yourself.

A tip for recognising artists - [[Don Figueroa]] is VERY prolific in the MTMTE series, and you can tell which works are his by by their big hands with vents on the back of them, which are his trademark. Another trademark of his is cyclindrical piping on the edges of limbs, particularly the thighs. Also, most artists tended to be assigned all the art for a particular subgroup or team.

If in doubt, use <nowiki>{{artist?}}</nowiki> and it will be added to the category of art by undetermined artists.

Finally, I would advise caution in using so many pictures from a single source, as it would be hard to argue fair use. -[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:12, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

:Thanks for the tips. I may not have time to follow up on 'em all today but I will soon. Ish.

:The toy photos, FYI, are all my own. Isn't there some "I hereby release into public domain blah blah blah" template for that sort of thing? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 19:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

::I don't believe we do, at least to my knowledge. You can just say something like 'Photos by [[User:Repowers]], released to the public domain.'

::I've started adding tags to the pictures you've uploaded, but I'll leave the toy pics alone now. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:39, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

===Slog===
Can you scan a picture of Slog's MTMTE robot mode? I prefer to use some kind of uncluttered 'profile' pic if possible for the main article picture, and comic panels for the fiction section (since there isn't anything there in the Marvel section anyway). Assumign the scan of is good quality, I suggest using the magic wand tool in photoshop to cut out the background, leaving a nice, white crisp background behind the character.

I'm going to request the deletion of the beast mode picture because we can't fit it anywhere in the article, and we should only have one picture up at the start.

Formatting tip - when you don't want images to jut into other article sections or mess up the formatting, use <nowiki>{{-}}</nowiki> instead of a bunch of return key strokes :D --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:53, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

==US/UK Navboxes==
Following is the sequence that should be used for the remaining UK stories as their pages are created. See also:
[http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Repowers&oldid=128717 older list] rationalizing the order of pages already created.

232-235: King Con, Small War, Prime's Rib, Deathbringer

236-239 Wrestling, Way/Savage/Survival

240-242 Back from Dead, Out to Lunch, RAge, Assault

243-245 Resurrection Gambit, Mind Games, Two MEgs, Underworld

246-248 All the Familiar, Demons, Dawn of Darkness, Fallen Star

249-251 Skin Deep, Whose LIfeforce, Greatest Gift, The Void.

252-255 Yesterday's Heroes, Edge of Impact, Shadow of Evil, White Fire

256-261 Perchance, Primal Scream, Starting Over

262-264 Bird of Prey, Two STeps BAck, Break away, Desert Island risks

282-285 Kings of the Wild Frontier, Shut Up, Maneuvers, Assassins, External Forces

286-289 Deadly Obsession ,Lesser Evil, Frontline, INside Story, End of the Road

==Older Discussion==
I'm bringing this up to you since you seem to be the main person integrating them. It seems unelegant, but at the same time the simplest solution. Could their simply be two navboxes on each (relevant) issue page? One for the US comic, and one for the UK?

It looks like the shared stories are summarized under their US issue numbers, using [[Deadly Obsession]] as a single example. It wouldn't be much to edit these pages to make their UK numberings a bit more prominent; a navbox would actually take care of that fine.

It would also require some minor edits to link seperate second-story-only pages to the stories which they share books with. Just something like "UK issue #254 also contained [[White Fire]]." I think that could be fit into the UK navbox, or worked in with the initial information block containing the reprint notice is.--[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 02:36, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
:If possible, putting it in a single navbox would be best allowing for as many listings as needed for the various reprints, as well as a "printed with" below the next and previous links. I don't think anything has been reprinted more than three times in a comic series. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:57, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
::Oh lordy lordy, the whole thing's such a headache I don't wanna think about it just now. But you're right, we do need to address it sooner or later, somehow. Someone who knows something about setting up nav boxes should probably decide how it's best done, though.
::There aren't any UK issues with *two* original stories in them, right? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 06:16, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I dunno about the Titan comics, but there was only one Marvel UK comic with more than two TF stories period (issue 232, which had a US story, the end of a UK reprint and the start of a new UK story. I've thought it over, and figured it would be best for one navbox per series instead od one with every comic series the story was printed in. That way, there would only be at most two sets of "next" and "previous" links, which could be done by adding some optional parameters to the current template.
The one problem is how to deal with stories printed in the same issue. Few of the B&W UK strips are multi parters, so some US reprints have three or four UK backup strips. Not to mention the ''Transformers Magazine'' of the current Titan comics. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:06, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
:Got it made up. The real beauty is no change need to be made for issues not reprinted in the same series.

{{User:FortMax/Template:Comicnav | Generation 1 (Marvel Comics) | Issues #s 13 - 17 | seriesname=Marvel UK | prev=Man of Iron! | next=Raiders of the Last Ark | issuenumber2=Issue #s 308 - 317 | prev2=In the National Interest | next2=The Big Shutdown! }}

{{User:FortMax/Template:Comicnav | Generation 1 (Marvel Comics) | Issues #s 13 - 17 | seriesname=Marvel UK | prev=Man of Iron! | next=Raiders of the Last Ark }}

--[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 18:24, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

::Hrm. I'm not sure why we even need to worry about the reprinted stories -- they're just straight reprints of previous stories, right? The chain of links should just run straight through the set of stories once, in the order it was published. Why not just skip the reprints? If we want to record the info, it should just go as a note as on the story's page. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 21:03, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

:::I was thinking the same thing. The main Marvel Comic page lists everything as issue numbers, but the actual individual pages are made for stories, not issues. So we take Story X. In the UK, Story X is followed by Story Y. In the US, Story Y wasn't printed and story X is followed by Story W. A UK Navbox would, from X's page, link "Y" as "Next->", and the US would link W as "Next->".

:::Now, I'm not very familiar with the original printing format, so this may be all hypothetical. Given what I just pointed out about the organization of the pages... standalone backup strips can either be "pooled", set aside, and then inserted into the "navbox stream" after the main story they backed up. Or, they can (more simply) share story pages with their appropriate main story. My first solution would allow for shorter, more concise story pages, the second would better preserve the issue sequence of the "<-prev/next->" links.

:::I feel like I might not be communicating my ideas properly, so please tell me if I need to clarify! --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 21:39, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I think I gotcha. It looks like we've already got a precedent, with (for example) "[[Perchance to Dream]]" having its own page. I don't know what else was in those 6 issues, but presumably it was something that's already covered in the US issues.
::::I suppose someone could come into the list link for, say, UK #259, looking for "[[Perchance to Dream]]", only to find "[[Primal Scream (issue)|Primal Scream]]". ("Perchance" ran #255-260; on our list, it's linked from #255-258.) But anyone with that specific a knowledge of the UK stories will probably be able to figure it out... especially if there's a handy nav box to lead them to the previous and next story.
::::The contents of each UK issue could maybe be summarized along with the "also printed in..." note for the UK, though that's maybe getting a bit unwieldy. Not having a big list of what's in which issue hurts. Does such a thing exist on the net anywhere? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 21:58, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::If one isn't found by late tonight I'll take a stab at compiling one. I didn't find much on a (very brief) Google search for "transformers uk issue list". The best possible chance I can think of for finding one would... be on Iggy's old links page, and I wasn't able to pull that up on Internet Archive immediately. Like I said, though I'll have more time later tonight. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 22:19, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::Heck, come to think of it? We should just have that list as a wiki page. Then the story pages can just be story pages, instead of trying to describe what parts of what are in which issue (ie, Perchance is spread across 6 issues. Are we gonna have 6 notes on the Perchance page? "#255 had Part 1 of Perchance and the second part of blah blah whichever story". Sounds messy and to be avoided.) Not sure how the issues would link back to it... maybe from the Marvel G1 page. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 22:47, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Got your list [http://tfarchive.com/comics/marvel/index.php?s=storylist here] --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:05, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

==To-do-list==
Oh, I thought the to-do list was for yourself. You know, like a list of New Years Resolutions. ...you're not one of THOSE people, are you? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:56, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:It is, mostly, yeah. But if anybody wants to pitch in, that'd be nice too. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 03:41, 20 November 2007 (UTC), one of THOSE people.

== Good job ==

Hey nice edits man. You fix grammar too. Also I like the way you always edit things because what you did was impressive.([[User:76.195.186.73|76.195.186.73]] 00:12, 4 December 2007 (UTC))

You're doing a heckuva job, Powersy. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:33, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

I just went to fix the 1992 Annual entry after realising my mistake, and you've already done it! Quick work. --[[User:Specimen-17|Specimen-17]] 20:18, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

== Carnivac ==
The deletion of your paragraph wasn't intentional. This is the third time this has happened to me, twice today alone. I initiate an edit, go through all the text carefully to check for spelling, punctuation, etc., and by the time I'm done, someone else has already made another edit. However, when I submit my edit, I get no "out of date version" warning; it's simply processed as normal. As noted on [[User_talk:Apcog|my Talk page]] in a discussion with [[User:M Sipher|Sipher]], the wiki response was very sluggish for me this afternoon, which may or may not have had anything to do with it.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 00:20, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:Ah, okay, fair enough. Sorry if I seemed like I was jumping down your throat. :] -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 03:11, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::No need to apologize; you weren't harsh at all. I'm annoyed with the situation, not the people bringing it to my attention.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 06:33, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Package art ==

[http://www.botchthecrab.com/gallery.asp?gallery=7 This'll help] with the back-of-package art info! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:53, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

==Template names==
Hey, Rob -- you might be done creating nav templates now anyway, but just in case you are planning to do more: I recommend using all lowercase letters in the name of any template you create. It looks like there was already a mixture of cases in the nav templates when you started making yours, but, if template names are always all-lowercase, that just makes it easier to remember. Like all wiki pages with initial capital letters, something like [[Template:Nav-armada]] can be called with <nowiki>{{nav-armada}}</nowiki>, ignoring the initial capital. But if there's a capital letter in the middle somewhere, you ''have'' to match it or the link doesn't work. I'll put it on my todo list to go through all the templates and remove extraneous capital letters... But for future reference, please stick to lowercase. :) --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 05:19, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
:If it comes up again, I'll stick to lower case. I was just following what seemed to be the precedent, but what you say about linking makes a lot of sense. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 06:43, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

==Screencaps==
You've got some fantastic screencaps from the G1 cartoon on your blog. Any chance we could use some for episode/character pages? -- Repowers 19:23, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:Why, thanks. The site is a little obsession of mine. I'd post more pictures on this wiki, but I haven't had the time. Do have some specific ones in mind you want? --[[User:Suzyprime|Suzyprime]] 19:37, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
::None in particular at the moment -- I was just skimming. Some of the group shots would be good for the main G1 cartoon page. Other than that, every episode page ought to have a couple of screencaps; likewise for character pages. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 19:54, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

== Protoform Toys ==

Awww...after all I went through to be sure the parallel versions were all accurate, too. Oh well, at least one of my captions survived, and the individual toy pages are fixed.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 15:47, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
:My sole purpose in life is to torment you thus! BWAAHAHAHA.
:Seriously... I almost purged the whole section before realizing it is a good idea to at least have some mention of toy incarnations. But IMO it's asking for trouble to have the same info repeated in two places like that. They'll inevitably drift apart. Anyways, what with this whole "World Wide Web" thing, we can just link from one location to the other and save ourselves the trouble! -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 16:03, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
::Ehn, I wasn't objecting to the deletion on principle or anything, just expressing disappointment that I'd expended some effort for nothing. As noted, the fixes still exist on Prime and Starscream's toy pages, so it's not like ''all'' the work was for naught.
::I kinda miss my revised Starscream caption, but I'll live.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:34, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

==Show bible==
... came "much, much later"? What, exactly, the ''hell''? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:32, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
:Who on ATT in 1994 had read the show bible? NOBODY, that's who! It was not a consideration until years later. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 19:37, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

== "error" in Prime spotlight ==

''Bristleback asks a question ("Which is?"), and Birdbrain starts to answer it ("SMASH our way in..."). However, in the following panel, Bristleback is shown finishing Birdbrain's sentence ("...and kill WHOEVER and WHATEVER we find inside!")''

: Not an error, here's why... In the panel before, one of them (not pictured) says "It it him?" [referring to Omega]. Then someone says "Only one way to find out." Then, as above, Bristleback says "Which is?" [referring to how they would find out]. Birdbrain says "Smash our way in" and Bristleback finishes the sentence, "...and kill WHOEVER and WHATEVER we find inside!" In other words, Birdbrain started to answer the question and Bristleback decided to add his 2 cents in.
:I really don't think it's an error, it makes sense to me. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 17:49, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::So Bristleback doesn't know what they're going to do, and asks, and after three words from Birdbrain he suddenly answers his own question? Given IDW's propensity for screwing up their speech balloons, combined with the obscurity of the individual Pretender Monsters, I think it's an honest error. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 18:13, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:::No biggie. However, they didn't correct it in the TPB. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 22:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Y'know, I was thinking that'd be a good litmus test, actually. In light of that, I'm gonna re-write the note in a more neutral tone. I still think it ''could'' be an error, again owing to the obscurity of the characters, but the lack of a correction makes it a less solid case than I thought it was. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 01:40, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::seems fair. cheers! --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 04:37, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

==Boxart copyright==
If the boxart belongs to either Hasbro or Takara (as boxart generally does), then we normally use the <nowiki>{{hastak}}</nowiki> tag, since it mentions the fair use provision of United States copyright law. But I guess the fair use tag is fine, too :) --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:53, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
:Ah, thanks for the heads-up. I wasn't aware of the difference. Will adjust accordingly! -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 02:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

==Something to help your Energon recaps==
I recommend referring to NTFA for the japanese episode names and airdates of both series: 
*[http://www.ntfa.net/ntfa/japan/SLeplist.php Superlink names and airdates]
*[http://www.ntfa.net/ntfa/energon/eplist.php Energon names and airdates]

I've added the info into the pages you've already done, so to simply follow what's already been written I recommend placing the Japanese SL airdate before the US Energon airdate in the Stats section, given that SL aired first and Energon suffered horrible gaps in episodes aired ;) --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:54, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

:Very late, but I just wanted to say how useful this info has been. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 05:07, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

== How does a plot NOT conclude successfully? ==

I of course feel that the platonic ideal of a plot not concluding successfully in any meaningful fashion whatsoever, a comic that just leaves you scratching your head and wondering why they even roused Rob Ruffolo out of whatever alcoholic haze he was in prior to drawing it, would have to be [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] [[Micromasters]].--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:17, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
:Hahahahaha. I was thinking nearly the same thing even as I wrote it. XD -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 23:19, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

=="Worthless piece of stupid trivia?"==
Buddy, I've seen a ''lot'' of "worthless pieces of stupid trivia" on here, of the irrelevant, personal canon, and/or just plain inaccurate kind. A while back, I had a huge debate with some editors on here over a trivia post I made on Blackarachnia's article stating how her telekinesis ''may'' have originated from her mind link with Tarantulas, with them saying that was wrong and had no basis in fact when it was "obvious" that she got it from the Transmetal driver, an opinion that was just as much speculation as they claimed the mind-link thing was. The editors here are mostly idiotic hypocrites that like to toss out anything that doesn't fit into their own "personal canon" as invalid for this wiki. I know for a fact that quite a few RiD fans joke about Scourge having Kelly's DNA in him makes him a transgender (as I said in Scourge's article's discussion, Ben Yee's TF forum made quite a few cracks about that), so it's valid. [[User:64.13.101.210|64.13.101.210]] 00:28, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
:It is valid to discuss Scourge having Kelly as part of his biosignature, since he actually does according to the show. Notice the great contrast between that and, say, Blackarachnia's telekinesis being caused by Tarantulas, which is something you just made up. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:52, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
:You're not listening to me. Go do something useful. This isn't it. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 02:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

== Hosehead ==

Your caption fu is mighty. [[User:JW|JW]] 19:49, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

== Selling toys Sandbox ==

Good work. A few comments/suggestions, mainly on bits imported:

''The Hasbro-induced need to show all the toys can also cause stories to suddenly focus on a new character, sometimes dropping ongoing plot threads about older ones. Examples include:
* ''The comic issue [[Pretender to the Throne!]]''

This isn't clear for anyone unfamiliar with the comic and even if one is it's not really clear how this one jars too much, particularly as it does pick up on Goldbug and Fort Max getting new bodies and leads into the next battle with Ratbat's Decepticons. I'd say the disjointed narrative problems the comic story had in 1988 are more down to having two Autobot factions and two Decepticon factions all running around on or in orbit around Earth, requiring each to take a back seat from time to time (and the UK comic makes it worse by throwing in a third earthbound Decepticon faction, the Autobots on Cybertron, the Transformers in the future and various mavericks) and the need to tie up loose ends (and cartoon adaptations) than the requirement to sell toys.

* ''Mainframe planned to use [[Wolfang (Maximal)|Wolfang]] in ''Beast Wars'', but [[Tigatron]] appeared instead because he had an upcoming toy (and to save money as his cgi model was only a slight tweak of Cheetor's).''

That didn't really involve dumping any old characters. Scorponok taking a backseat to Inferno might be a better example but it's been a while since I've seen the first season of Beast Wars to be sure if that was the case.

* ''In the Marvel comics, the simultaneous introduction of the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] and [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]], and the introduction of the Pretenders, saw a lot of rigamarole involved in explaining why both the Autobots and the Decepticons had new members with identical gimmicks at the same time.''

True in the UK comic but I can't recall any talk at all in the US one about Megatron explicitly copying the Aerialbots' combining ability for the Stunticons. The Head, Target and Power masters may be better examples.

''Power levels''

If you need a comic example, Omega Supreme annihilates six Decepticons in his first appearance over just a few pages (and would have got two more if they hadn't flown away). But in a later issue he's shown losing the return battle with just Buzz Saw!

* ''Megatron is turned into Galvatron three times - at the end of each series, he's turned back into Megatron but with a different body. This is due to Hasbro wanting to keep the [[trademark]]s "Megatron" and "Galvatron" as well as to sell more toys.''

Which era does this refer to?

* ''Numerous characters are killed in the Marvel UK comics saga [[Time Wars]]. The Grim Reaper seemed to spare either popular characters (Megatron and Shockwave) or newer characters ([[Carnivac (G1)|Carnivac]], [[Catilla]], [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], and the [[Terrorcon (G1)|Terrorcons]], for example.)''

Erm the Terrorcons in Time Wars were from the future and there were enough problems with future characters dying in the present day already. And their contemporary versions ''were'' killed off in the Underbase Saga.

Otherwise the piece looks a good rewrite/slim down so far.

[[User:Timrollpickering|Timrollpickering]] 19:36, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks for the feedback. Some of that's just stuff that I didn't quite finish writing out as well, or didn't give additional context after pulling it from its original fiction section. Ironically, I think the page is actually a little bit ''longer'' than the pre-revision version. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 23:41, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

== Were you looking for this the other day? ==

http://www.emopanda.com/tmp/Energon%20-%2017%20-%20Return%20of%20Demolisher.avi
:Yeah, somebody found it for me, somewhere or other. I haven't gotten around to it yet; I've had to slow down on the Energon in general to preserve my brain cells. Thanks! -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 21:17, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, I think that was me, and I linked you to the wrong episode marked as Return of Demolisher on Veoh. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:04, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

== MediaWiki Stuff That Exists and How to Find It ==

[[Special:AllMessages]]

...not the most user-friendly organized list out there, to be sure, but it is a full list. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:03, 7 May 2009 (EDT)

== Magazine ==

According to my issue, the 3H club magazine was called "The Official Transformers Collectors' Club Magazine". The "the" is on the front outside cover but is not capitalized in the notes on the inside cover. --[[User:Bluestreak7|Bluestreak7]] 14:05, 24 May 2009 (EDT)

== Micromaster catalogues? ==

Hey Rob, seeing as wot you're uploading pics of the two teams that this question relates to - do you happen to have the instructions/catalogs for the MC reissues of the Train Team and the Turbo Team? Cause those are the only two that we need a picture from to complete the [[Micromaster Collection]] page's story section, all illustrated-like. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:59, 30 May 2009 (EDT)
:See if any of these are what you need: [http://www.builtstlouis.net/journal4/sixteams/ Core dump of my MM reissue scans] -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 13:16, 30 May 2009 (EDT)

== Amory's Page ==

Mrr. Sorry about that, I usually am instead writing out issue/episode synopses that use the present tense, and didn't even realize this time that I'd goofed. 
On that note, the likely reason it read similarly to the Cheap Shots synopsis is because I wrote that too, and you picked up on my writing style. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:25, 15 June 2009 (EDT)
:Ah, gotcha. No problem - stuff happens! -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 13:26, 15 June 2009 (EDT)

== It should be noted that... ==

... Rob hates it when others tell him to take note things. Seriously. He will kill you. Probably to death. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:26, 16 June 2009 (EDT)

==Micromaster Squad prices==

For what it's worth, there's a list of G1 prices here: [http://web.archive.org/web/20021205162625/www.geocities.com/pdpool/1990.html] I can't really speak to the validity of the list, however.--[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 10:51, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
:Interesting... I'm little leery of it, though. I remember the Battle Patrol costing me $5 at ToysRUs, and subsequently thinking to myself, wow, each of these little guys is only $1.25! It seems unlikely that the Patrol price jumped to $7 in just one year. I wonder where they got those numbers? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 11:08, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

::Heh, you'd probably be less confused had I linked you to the main page for that list like I'd intended. Sorry about that. On the [http://web.archive.org/web/20021205063120/www.geocities.com/pdpool/prices.html main page] it mentions that the prices were verified from catalogs and price tags. Catalog pricing could explain the why it seems high. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 02:09, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

== Jazz vs Frenzy ==

Optimus instructed Jazz to take on Frenzy two times in [[Ghosts of Yesterday]], leading Jazz to complain that he always fights the little ones. He only fought him once, though, but knocked him out cold in a matter of minutes. So they have encountered each other, just outside of the films and comics. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 17:02, 14 July 2009 (EDT)

== Bad version purging ==

By going to [[Special:Undelete/Nemesis_(SG)]], you could have selectively restored the history (i.e., including Blackout & McFeely, but not you-know-who). Just FTR - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 16:18, 25 August 2009 (EDT)

== You, sir, are a god. ==

I've read your near-total revision of the [[Death]] page, and it is GLORIOUS, sir. I'm deeply regretful that you don't receive some kinda recognition or payment for all the work you've done -- you've made a list of horrible slaughter and toy-based genocide fun and interesting to read, for which: KUDOS.

So, um, I can only hope that one day they name a toy after you. You deserve it.

== That's me! ==
Excuse me for the beginning on the very top, but your page is so great… Well, I'll try to consider your advices in my mind. Thank you. But tell me why there were no signs to illustrations in "Armada" almost at all till I began to add them? And now everybody tries to take part in name-giving… Excuse my poor English.--[[User:He-l-en1959|He-l-en1959]] 11:01, 29 November 2009 (EST)
::* Thank you VERY MUCH!!!--[[User:He-l-en1959|He-l-en1959]] 12:26, 29 November 2009 (EST)

== And who's the god that Beohort calls upon? ==

[[Tyrwas]]! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 01:25, 22 December 2009 (EST)

== Alex Karras prime time spot ==

It seems the owner of Scratchbomb has seen fit to bestow upon Transfans a holiday gift. In his latest batch of commercials uploaded to YouTube, he has included the [http://scratchbomb.com/2009/12/holiday-triumphs-more-adtacular-halloween-1985.html Alex Karras prime time spot]. I was mucho excited as I had figured we'd probably never find a recording of it. I'm posting it on your talk page first, in case you'd like to be the one to write it up proper. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 23:47, 23 December 2009 (EST)
:Last call on writing this spot up. I'll do it next week unless you call dibs. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 23:34, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
::Heh, naw, go ahead. If it's a privilege, you've totally earned it by this point. Most of my energies are directed toward cartoon bloopers these days, anyway. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 23:41, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
:::Ok, cool. I wasn't thinking privilege so much as I was thinking you might want to finish what you started. On a related note, I found the audio for the Pretenders comic commercial on Bigbot. I wish Renaud would've credited the provider so I knew who to ask about possibly getting the video. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 23:58, 15 June 2010 (EDT)

== Thanx for blocking the account ==

Thanks. If that "Fuck DEtour" account worked, it was clearly a personal attack at DETOUR. [[Special:Contributions/86.147.177.207|86.147.177.207]] 07:56, 19 December 2010 (EST)

User talk:Abates

2010-12-19T12:53:15Z

86.147.177.207: /* Please do not block IPs infinitely */ new section

==To-Do List==
===Operation: Screen Captures===
Screen cap (re)tagging:
*<s>[[:Category:Generation 1 screen captures|G1]]</s>
*[[:Category:Headmasters screen captures|Headmasters]]/[[:Category:Masterforce screen captures|Masterforce]]/<s>[[:Category:Victory screen captures|Victory]]</s>/<s>[[:Category:Zone screen captures|Zone]]</s>
*<s>[[:Category:Beast Wars screen captures|Beast Wars]]</s>/<s>[[:Category:Beast Machines screen captures|Beast Machines]]</s>
*<s>[[:Category:Robots in Disguise screen captures|Robots in Disguise]]</s>
*<s>[[:Category:Armada screen captures|Armada]]</s>/[[:Category:Energon screen captures|Energon]]/<s>[[:Category:Cybertron screen captures|Cybertron]]</s>
*<s>[[:Category:Animated screen captures|Animated]]</s>
====Pictures of unidentified origin====
I don't know which episodes these are from - feel free to tag them with {{tl|MFcap}} or {{tl|Energoncap}} if you know!
=====Masterforce=====
<gallery>
Image:Diver suiton.jpg
</gallery>

=====Energon=====
<gallery>
Image:EnergonGeneric.jpg
Image:EnergonSixShot3.jpg
Image:Rodimus tv.jpg
</gallery>

==Screencaps==
Your tastes in screencaps is impeccable. :D -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 01:21, 5 October 2008 (EDT)
: Heh, thanks! :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 01:37, 5 October 2008 (EDT)
::You don't need to use the actual title cards for the main picture of episode articles. Awhile back we decided that those are redundant for the most part, so we've taken to using screencaps of scenes that are pivotal, sum up the episode and are just plain funny. For example [[The Ultimate Weapon|The Ultimate Weapon]]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 08:50, 5 October 2008 (EDT)
:::Aha! Noted. Thanks :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 15:46, 5 October 2008 (EDT)

And again! The BW pages are looking great. Keep 'em coming! -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 00:37, 30 November 2008 (EST)
:Thanks! Almost halfway though :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 01:31, 30 November 2008 (EST)

==This Pic==
[[Image:Lessons of the Past Optimusmonitor.jpg|right|180px|thumb|]]Could you please retake this shot? It's full of little jaggies - check out the lines on Prime's shoulder and elbow. Thanks. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 12:08, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
:That's how it looks in the episode - the image they used is from the end of a zooming-out shot in "An Explosive Situation", so it looks like they did a video freeze on the last frame and overlayed the clips on the top monitors. Unfortunately it was the only "someone watching footage on a monitor" shot I could find (there's another identical shot of Prime later on, but it has the same problem). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:20, 12 October 2008 (EDT)

==Kudos==
Your RID pages are excellent. Thanks for taking on a task that not many of us are willing to face. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 23:31, 21 October 2008 (EDT)

:Thanks! I love the show, so I'm enjoying rewatching it. :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 01:08, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
::Your Quote sections in particular are reminding me of what a fun show it was... particularly in light of [[Energon (cartoon)|what came after.]] -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 10:09, 22 October 2008 (EDT)

:So devoutly seconded. -- [[User:Greenygal|Greenygal]] 15:48, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
:Thanks very much for doing the work on these! --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 10:08, 24 October 2008 (EDT)

:Dude - awesome idea: Can you change the title card of [[The Ultimate Robot Warrior|The Ultimate Robot Warrior]] to an image where Buddha is firing missiles out of his mouth? Because it's ''so'' wrong it amuses me. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:33, 29 October 2008 (EDT)
::Done! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:45, 29 October 2008 (EDT)
:::Thanks mate. Bwahahahaha! --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:56, 29 October 2008 (EDT)

Must chime in with thanks. This is simply great work.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:57, 22 November 2008 (EST)

:Thanks! :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 03:46, 22 November 2008 (EST)

== Armada eps ==
Jeebus, now you're doing Armada episode recaps! As Repowers said last time with the RID recaps, thanks for doing what many of us are reluctant to do (and I like Armada). --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:56, 16 November 2008 (EST)

:Just the two for the moment. I want to focus on finishing the RID character pages, but I happened to have the first three episodes of Armada handy. :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 03:07, 16 November 2008 (EST)

== More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1 ==
Wondering why you removed the navigation box I put on this article? Admittedly it didn't come out perfectly, but it seemed to work and fulfilled a good function so why not just modify it?[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:42, 16 November 2008 (EST)

:Because it's completely redundant? The infobox on the top right does exactly the same thing. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:45, 16 November 2008 (EST)
::Just coming back to admit that I missed that. It does seem a little odd that the navigation box for the first episode doesn't match those for later episodes, but if everyone else wants it that way...[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:48, 16 November 2008 (EST)
:::Oh, that's just a case of the other pages not having been updated with the newer template yet. We haven't been using the new one for that long. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:50, 16 November 2008 (EST)
::::Okay. Didn't mean to cause any trouble.[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:02, 16 November 2008 (EST)

:The episode template doesn't support seasons yet which I think is why it's not in wider use. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:09, 16 November 2008 (EST)

==BW request==
Hey, if you've got you Season 2 disks handy, could you grab a shot of Quickstrike as he introduces himself? Specifically I think there's a moment when the camera's at ground level with him, and you see both his cobra and scorpion heads clearly at the same time. It'd make a great main pic for the [[Fuzor|Fuzor]] article. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 20:15, 6 December 2008 (EST)

:[[:Image:Coming of the Fuzors 1 Quickstrike intro.jpg|This one]]? :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:26, 6 December 2008 (EST)
::That one. Awesome! -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 20:27, 6 December 2008 (EST)

== Appearances ==
The way we've been doing it is that appearances doesn't necessarily mean "as they appear on screen" but it can also mean whomever is heard first. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:56, 31 December 2008 (EST)

:Oh, I see. I didn't realise that. :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:34, 1 January 2009 (EST)

== Automated Cache Processor ==

Did you ever get to put this online? I wouldn't mind being able to use it on the articles where the processed cache files didn't get uploaded properly due to title problems. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:42, 19 March 2009 (EDT)
:Not yet, but it's a trivial thing to do, so I'll do it tonight and announce it on [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Damage Control Central|Damage Control Central]]. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:14, 19 March 2009 (EDT)
::Cool, thanks. :) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 23:28, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

== References ==

You can attribute a news/link reference several times throughout an article by creating a reference name. Eg. Say you want to link an article that confirmed Hugo Weaving was returning to voice Megatron in both confirmed news and the cast list. You do this:

Hugo Weaving returns to voice Megatron news.<nowiki><ref name="Hugo Weaving">[News Link news description]</ref>
</nowiki>

===Cast===
Megatron (Hugo Weaving)<nowiki><ref name="Hugo Weaving"/>
</nowiki>

This means you don't end up linking the exact same news several times in the References section. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:53, 21 March 2009 (EDT)
:Aha! Now I know (and knowing is half the battle). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 01:54, 21 March 2009 (EDT)

==Google Flaw==
Don't have time to really deal with this myself, but the version of the Nine Great Demon General page on the wiki wasn't the most current; I couldn't even find a version to look up the cached form on Google, and had to use your MSN.com search tip to recover it. How many other pages like this? Don't know. But something to look up EITHER the Google Cache or MSN Cache version of a given page, that might be worth looking into... --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 00:09, 25 March 2009 (EDT)
:Was actually comparing caches last night. MSN seems to be older on most pages I check, and Google is apparently spidering faster and has some of the (heinously bad) backups Bookworm put up in place, Wikia spam and all. For the moment the sweet spot appears to maybe be Yahoo's cache.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 00:18, 25 March 2009 (EDT)
::Yeah, there's no cache for the Nine Great Demon Generals article in the big zip of cache files. There are one or two pages here and there which got missed out. I'm not sure why whoever was downloading that range didn't note it as a missing file on the Damage Control page. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:48, 25 March 2009 (EDT)
:::Re-checked caches. Yahoo has now spidered us and cached the Wikia spammed crapola, but MSN has a cache of November/December 2008. Not the ''best'', but it had Nine Great Demon Generals whereas Yahoo or Google would only give me that page from Wikia. Potentially our best bet as advanced as the others have gotten in spidering, if we have pages that we still have no backup of.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:39, 25 March 2009 (EDT)
::::FFN [[Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal/Damage_Control_Central/Archive2#Front_page_notice_and_browser_caches|mentioned]] that fans of the wiki had offered to help out with their browser caches. It's a long shot, but assuming they've saved the files, they might have missing articles. No one answered his question regarding where they should be uploaded though. I don't know the question to that myself. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 03:06, 25 March 2009 (EDT)

==HTML to Comic Template converter==
Your converter seems to be having some issues with code that results from your HTML to Wiki converter. When I ran the cache page for [[Out to Lunch!]] through the Wiki converter, and then copied the resulting HTML for the template over to the template converter, the 'prev', 'next', and 'title' parameters are omitted. The template I converted didn't have a secondary series (It was a UK only Marvel comic) so I don't know if 'prev2' and 'next2' would also be omitted. It's still a fantastic tool though, and much appreciated. Have you thought about automating it? Seems like it wouldn't be hard to find the beginning and end of the template HTML, particularly if the script is only fed lists of comic pages (which is easily enough done). --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 03:06, 29 March 2009 (EDT)
:Thanks! Working on it now. :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 03:22, 29 March 2009 (EDT)
:Sorted. As for automating it, I haven't done anything with directly updating the site - that's more Derik's area. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 03:36, 29 March 2009 (EDT)
Title still doesn't seem to be working...--[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 08:40, 29 March 2009 (EDT)
:Have you got an example page where it doesn't? It was working all right for me last night. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 15:29, 29 March 2009 (EDT)

== Blinking ==

That'd be me. Eye-catching, isn't it? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:55, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
:That looks like it'll be extremely useful! Kudos! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:56, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
::Final style is negociable. We're (theoretically) discussing it [[Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal#Redirects_while_editing|here]]. (Or at least we will be once other users start clawing their eyes out.)
::...I should really get around to setting up a "request changes from Deceptitran" form. Most of the ones I found so far are very straightforward... with 100% of the old links able to be changed to a single correct location. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:00, 12 April 2009 (EDT)

== Double pages ==

Earlier last month in the Community portal you mentioned you had ideas on how to fix the "double pages" problem that is currently listing each page with a special character as orphaned. (i.e. Jo%CC%88rmungandr & J%C3%B6rmungandr). Is this still a project you're working on at all? No pressure here. I'm just curious. For some reason I consider cleaning out the Orphaned Pages list to be a pet project of mine. -- [[User:Bluestreak7|Bluestreak7]] 22:39, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
:Well, I installed a copy of MediaWiki on my own server and tried to play around with various techniques for correcting the problem. The two possible solutions I found were:
:*Use an SQL script to change the incorrect names and remove the mucked up accents, then just delete them through the interface.
:*Use an SQL script to delete the incorrect article records outright.

:The second solution has some uncertain effects re database integrity, and the first ISTR I encountered some residual problems with, but I don't remember what they were.
:I've been meaning to go try talking to someone at MediaWiki about it, and/or getting a copy of the current database from Scout in order to make sure I'm not duplicating the problem incorrectly. But I haven't looked at the issue for a while, so I might revisit it this weekend and see what I can come up with. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:53, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
::OK, having tested some more, I've gotten the first technique to work with no apparent side effects. I am testing on a nearly-empty database through, so I'd like to get a copy of the TFWiki DB and test it on that just to make doubly sure it won't cause problems. I've just emailed [[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] to ask about getting a copy. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:28, 1 May 2009 (EDT)

== Is it bad that... ==

...when you added [[Professor Greene]] and [[T.W. Peacocke]], I started wondering who did a Transformers/Clue crossover?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 01:28, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:...dammit, Rosicrucian, you're making me want to see that now. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 01:31, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
::It's a Hasbro property! If there were any justice, we'd get an actual board game out of it. With Nightbeat.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 01:37, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:::"Grindor has been found with his face ripped off. You gather the suspects into a room..." --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:01, 24 July 2009 (EDT)

== Well, that's odd. ==

...when I started deleting them, I'd assumed ?! had already removed the links to them. Usually he's more thorough than this.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 01:52, 7 September 2009 (EDT)
:Uncharacteristic, indeed. I hope I didn't come across too harshly! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:09, 7 September 2009 (EDT)

== Block Fixing ==

Poor [[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] got accidentally blocked and unblocked, but he's still stuck under the autoblock. Could you do that thing you did to fix when [[User talk:Magnus Maximus|Magnus Maximus had the same problem]]? (Assuming it doesn't clear up before you get this.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:27, 31 October 2009 (EDT)
:Should now be done! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:22, 31 October 2009 (EDT)
::Thanks! :D --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 17:19, 31 October 2009 (EDT)
:::Thanks for killing the autoblock! I headbutted that thing so many times my skull has become partially flat. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:04, 1 November 2009 (EST)
::::No problem! :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 13:58, 1 November 2009 (EST)

== Reunification Anon Reverting ==

THANK YOU. :> Sigh. Sorry about all that mess... --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 19:58, 5 November 2009 (EST)
:No problem. :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:16, 5 November 2009 (EST)

==Day of the Machines==
Since you were working on Day of the Machines, Dr. Gates' fellow scientist is named Dr. Andrews in the dialogue script. (This was noted on the talk page at one point, but it got lost in the crash.) --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 03:37, 28 November 2009 (EST)
:Cool! Should be a quick article to make. :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 04:26, 28 November 2009 (EST)

== Ultraplane ==
''Hey, while you're looking at scripts, can you please check "Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 1" and see how Ultraplane is parsed? We've got it spelled four or five different ways in various articles. :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:08, 4 December 2009 (EST)''
:The line is written out as:

:SOUNDWAVE Ultra plane completed, Megatron.

:Whether it's meant to be a proper noun or not, I dunno. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 00:17, 4 December 2009 (EST)
::Awesome, thanks! From context, it probably should be capitalised "Ultra Plane". --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:31, 4 December 2009 (EST)

== Excuse me about Grandma ==

But I just wanted you to lock all of those so my mission is complete.[[Special:Contributions/66.45.240.66|66.45.240.66]] 16:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)
:Your mission of being an über-douche? Yeah, mission accomplished all right. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:51, 23 December 2009 (EST)

== Unreleased toys/Gallery ==

Hello, I'd like to thank you for converting it in to a normal page. Thank you! ;-D --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 04:02, 8 April 2010 (EDT)
:No problem. :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 04:04, 8 April 2010 (EDT)

==New bot in town==
Can I get a bot tag for [[User:DNAVI]] please? - [[User:Magnus Maximus|Magnus Maximus]] 02:05, 15 April 2010 (EDT)
:Not within my powers, unfortunately! You need to ask Walky, Suki Brits or McFly. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:09, 15 April 2010 (EDT)
::Ah, okay. I guess that narrows it down to Walky, then, since Suki and McFly went AWOL months ago. - [[User:Magnus Maximus|Magnus Maximus]] 02:20, 15 April 2010 (EDT)

== Why for I did that. ==

We have four pages that are listed in [[:Category:Voice actors]] despite not actually being in it. That was one of then. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 23:09, 7 May 2010 (EDT)
:I fixed it! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:40, 7 May 2010 (EDT)
::Could this fix our double pages (the ones with special characters) that still show up as orphaned? --[[User:Bluestreak7|Bluestreak7]] 23:52, 7 May 2010 (EDT)
:::Unfortunately no - they're actually still in the database, I just uploaded a blank page over them, taking them out of the categories they're in. They'll still show up on the orphaned/uncategorized pages list until we get rid of them for good. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:55, 7 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Then maybe we should do that for a few more pages, since when searching through the wanted pages I occasionally find redlinks that are only on the unviewable versions of the page (i.e. Goryu is still linking to Goryu (Shattered Glass). --[[User:Bluestreak7|Bluestreak7]] 00:02, 8 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::I'll have a look and see if I can fix some of those as well. ISTR there's one linking to ""New Narrator?" Talk about having your name determine your career choice!" Eesh. :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:09, 8 May 2010 (EDT)

==Omni dubs==
Hey, you did a few of the "Lost in translation" sections for the Victory episodes - do you have the Madman DVDs? Would you be able to tell me if the dub is included on every episode, or just a few of them (and if the latter, which ones), or did you hear them elsewhere? Thanks. - [[User:Magnus Maximus|Magnus Maximus]] 04:41, 15 May 2010 (EDT)
:Yeah, I have the Madman Victory DVDs. All the episodes on them have the Omni dub. I wish all the Masterforce episodes did. :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 04:51, 15 May 2010 (EDT)
::Okay, cool. I think I've clogged up the recent changes enough for now, though, so I'll wait a bit before adding the info to each ep's home video section. Thanks again. - [[User:Magnus Maximus|Magnus Maximus]] 05:10, 15 May 2010 (EDT)

== War for Cybertron actors ==

Would it be all right if I added information on some of the confirmed actors in War for Cybertron? Some people seem to have the game and posted the credits for proof, so I assume that means it's not technically leaked, but I just want to check first. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 22:41, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
:We should probably wait for the official release date, unless High Moon releases an official cast list. It's only 5 days away, after all. :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:59, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
::OK. I was just doing this so I didn't create a bunch of pages that would be deleted. :P Thanks! --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 23:02, 17 June 2010 (EDT)

== Hey. ==

Well, I'm sorry dude. But that guy said some bad things about me! {{unsigned|TheRex4441}} 00:20, 25 June 2010 (EDT)
:That still doesn't excuse you from it. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 00:27, 25 June 2010 (EDT)
::...I didn't say anything bad about him. I just gave him pointers about what's needed to make a good character page (an intro paragraph), and told him characters who were the first to use a name didn't need disambig tags. How is that "saying bad things about him"? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:46, 25 June 2010 (EDT)

== Anon Was Right ==
Sorry about that, because of the grammar I didn't bother checking to see if Anon was actually right this time. My brain just kind of switches to Undo Mode as soon as I see that kind of English. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 06:53, 20 July 2010 (EDT)
:That particular anon has a history of useless trivia notes and terrible English, so I don't blame you! Their IP address is in New Zealand too, which makes me wonder if the public education system here has ''really'' gone downhill since I went through it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 07:14, 20 July 2010 (EDT)

== The wiki's sense of humor. ==

The wiki values humor. I thought creating the Animated Toxitron page would be something funny to have here. Sorry for any inconvenience. --[[User:Kaymac192|Kaymac192]] 20:24, 23 July 2010 (EDT)
:Humor is fine, but it needs to be coming from official materials. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:31, 23 July 2010 (EDT)
:: I see. Thank you for telling me. It is a pity Derrick Wyatt isn't working with the franchise anymore, but somet things he says can still be construed as true. I guess Toxitron was a little throw away comment. If he winds up drawing a sketch of him and putting it on his blog, however... then we can talk. XD --[[User:Kaymac192|Kaymac192]] 20:34, 23 July 2010 (EDT)
:::Not really. That would qualify as fan art, much like his Animated Scalpel drawing. But yes, it is a pity he isn't involved with TFs anymore. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:45, 23 July 2010 (EDT)
::::If he gets Toxitron in something like the Allspark Almanac, that'd work! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:52, 23 July 2010 (EDT)

== Errors in 3D ==

Over on [[Transformers in 3-D issue 2]] (back in April) you added a note that "Scorponok is spelled 'Scorponok' on page 20", just wondering what it was meant to say. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:50, 28 July 2010 (EDT)
:Ah, thanks for pointing that out - it's spelled "Scorponock" in the comic. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 15:57, 28 July 2010 (EDT)

== Can I make a page on the Omega Frequency? ==

I was going to make a page for [[Omega Frequency]] today, but when I went to do so, it said you'd already deleted it. I have an entire article written in WordPad; would it be OK if I went and remade the page? --[[User:Fortress Minimus|Fortress Minimus]] 09:22, 30 July 2010 (EDT)
:Yes, feel free! It only says it's been deleted because a vandal created a page there a while ago. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:14, 30 July 2010 (EDT)

== Transformers 3 ==

I knew that the page must have information that is confirmed by makers if the movie. But well, I guess you're right. Spotted things confirmed to be false by the makers of movie isn't necessary to be told in these pages. --[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 9:31, 6 August 2010 (EDT)
:Yeah, the way Nelson is going, that page is going to have enough info on it as it is. I guess the info will drop off a bit once filming ends, but we don't know when that'll be... --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:39, 6 August 2010 (EDT)

==Air Raid Micromaster==
I understand there is a subcategory for Aerialbots, but then how do you explain the reason Air Raid (G1) gets to be part of the Aerialbots subcategory and the main Autobots category? Furthermore, why isn't there a Dinobots subcategory when there is clearly several different Dinobots? It doesn't make sense to me why I see some characters go in the categories and the subcategories that belong in the aforementioned categories. Air Raid isn't the only perplexing article with the same issue that I have seen. Could you care to enlighten me on the reasoning?
[[User:Davis Yuy|Davis Yuy]] 00:36, 12 August 2010 (EDT)
:Another example is [[Sentinel Prime (G1)]], he is categorized in Autobots category and Autobot leaders category, which is a subcategory of the aforementioned Autobots category. So why isn't that adding unnecessary categories? [[User:Davis Yuy|Davis Yuy]] 00:54, 12 August 2010 (EDT)
::The Wiki will almost forever be a work in progress. Sometimes policies are put in after many articles are made, and not everyone goes looking through every category to purge the articles that no longer belong there. So rather than complaining about an oversight, why not work on fixing these oversights? Also, there is totally a [[:Category:Dinobots|category for Dinobots]], so that portion of the complaint is completely invalid. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:57, 12 August 2010 (EDT)
:::I wouldl love to help correct these, but I would need guidance to know how to correct them. As for the Dinobots subgroup, I do not see it listed in the Autobots category, but it is listed in the Autobots subgroup category. While Aerialbots are a subcategory in the Autobots category, but not in the Autobots subgroup category, but in the Characters by sungroup category. Im just trying to understand how to help, which categories to use and which not to use. [[User:Davis Yuy|Davis Yuy]] 01:05, 12 August 2010 (EDT)
::::[[:Category:Dinobots]] is not under [[:Category:Autobots]], because not all Dinobots are Autobots - eg [[Goryu (SG)]] is a Decepticon but also a Dinobot.
::::[[:Category:Aerialbots]] is not in [[:Category:Autobot subgroups]] because Autobot subgroups is for articles about subgroups, not categories, thus [[Aerialbot (G1)]] is in Autobot subgroups instead. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:13, 12 August 2010 (EDT)
:::::Generation 1 Air Raid is in "Autobots" and "Aerialbots" because there are incarnations of the character that wasn't an Aerialbot. Same reason why Beast Wars Megatron is in "Beast Wars characters", despite being in both "Transmetals" and "Transmetals 2", subcategories of "Beast Wars characters". [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 02:32, 12 August 2010 (EDT)
::::::Ahhh! That explains it! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:43, 12 August 2010 (EDT)

== you're belief is a basic shed ==

What I'd like to know is what this has to do with Cambodian bears. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:25, 25 August 2010 (EDT)
:Flying Cambodian bears apparently! There's a terrifying thought... --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:18, 25 August 2010 (EDT)

== Soundwave RPM ==

Thanks for both the cleanup and the confirmation ;)-[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 00:19, 17 September 2010 (EDT)
:No problem! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:29, 17 September 2010 (EDT)

== Just a thread of thought on non-user edits ==

Wouldn't it be better that in the process of editing and making changes in some stub articles/pages, to just state the changes made, instead of telling people that "Oh, you never edited a wiki before, eh?" Naturally some people don't edit wikis at all, though they do refer to these wikis for quick info. Tell them what went wrong, rather than dissing them. I know this sounds odd, but sometimes they ''might'' take it the wrong way and think it's personal. Please share your views on this, tks. Just saying things only, without any vendetta whatsoever. (from Singapore) [[Special:Contributions/155.69.15.83|155.69.15.83]] 04:28, 24 September 2010 (EDT)
:Speaking personally, if I wanted to make an edit on a site I hadn't been to before, I would first make sure I understood what sort of phrasing is used there, and maybe take a look at the help files first. If in doubt about how best to make the change, I'd bring it up on the talk page first, otherwise if I got it wrong, someone else on the site would just have to edit it again to make sure it jived with the wording elsewhere on the site. My edit comment was meant as a gentle reprimand — I don't want to discourage people from editing, but at the same time I'd like to encourage them to learn how to edit in a way consistent with the rest of the site. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:24, 24 September 2010 (EDT)

==Image request==
Thanks for the (fast) image upload for Leftfoot's assistant. If it's not too much to ask, could you perhaps also provide a screencap of "[[Lightfoot: A Dramatic Encounter]]" - Gilmer reaching for his crotch in pain. I'd like to see it added to the episode page and the [[Humanization]] article. And if you'd have The Headmasters DVDs, the [[purple rat monster]] article has been without image for half a year. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 03:28, 17 October 2010 (EDT)
:Sure! Unfortunately my DVDs of The Headmasters are out on loan to a friend at the moment, so I haven't even been able to get around to adding screenshots to the HM episode articles. I will see what I can do though. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 03:44, 17 October 2010 (EDT)
::What's a few more days or weeks to six months? ;) Thanks a lot for your uploads so far. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 04:07, 17 October 2010 (EDT)
::Thank you!! [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 02:26, 27 October 2010 (EDT)
:::No problem! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:37, 27 October 2010 (EDT)

===Image request revisited===
Do you think you could do another imagery list? I am looking for a better version of Image:Starscream clone G1.jpg, a screenshot of [[Trashbin]] (as the page itself notes, the best image moment would be shortly before the line "you check in, but you don't check out" by Wreck-Gar during the chase scene on Junk), and [[Dread slaves]] needs some images. I think a screenshot of when Kup finally frees everybody, aka that time organic prisoners show up, would be good for the Notes section. Possibly when three of the robot prisoners (the ones who get caught by Predaking) try to flee would be good as main image. Think you could get these? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 04:21, 13 December 2010 (EST)
:I'll take a look. I did look through my screenshots for "Chaos" a while ago for suitable shots of the Dread slaves, but couldn't find any, so I may have to go back to the episode. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 04:53, 13 December 2010 (EST)
:Er, regarding [[Trashbin]], I don't see him in that shot. The dude in the middle back is closest, but has a different head and legs to the character model. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:48, 13 December 2010 (EST)
::Thanks for the uploads so far. With Trashbin, it "is" the dude in the middle. The fact he has a slightly different head and legs in that shot doesn't change what model he is supposed to be anymore than [[HAZMAT]]'s face/no face difference. Alternatively, the closest possible shot of him attacking Arcee will also do (can't use the moment after she knocks him over, because then the model gets switched for Junkyard's). Does this help? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 07:11, 13 December 2010 (EST)
:::Ahhh, OK! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:22, 13 December 2010 (EST)

==Put!==
Put, c'mon!
--[[User:Barricade123|Barricade123]] 15:30, 7 November 2010 (EST)

==Hey==

I'm just trying to add interesting stuff to this place. I came from the wikia of this, and I'm eager to make this site even better than it.

I just don't see the rhyme or reason at which you delete stuff. I thought the focus here was on comedy, so the reasons you gave for removing some things made no sense. I always tried to think up meaningful content to add when I came across something. I don't just add for the sake of adding, and everything I've added was there before on the wikia site. --[[User:Tommy-Vercetti|Tommy-Vercetti]] 16:54, 8 November 2010 (EST)
:The focus here isn't just comedy and there's a limit to it. Sometimes, too much details or comedy can get in the way of the article so we have to trim back. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:04, 8 November 2010 (EST)

:We split from the Wikia site two years ago, so it has evolved different rules to us. Some of the things that you added, like the last appearance of Inferno's beast mode, aren't particularly notable in themselves - if we added notes every time a character was seen for the first or last time, the wiki would be covered in them. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:12, 8 November 2010 (EST)

== Re:The Pri¢e of Life! UK cover ==

You probably don't remember, but I'm trying to work out what the source is on the credit for Frances Farmer on the UK cover of "The Pri¢e of Life!". According to the history, you added it in March '08. Do you recall where you go the info from? --abates 20:34, 3 November 2010 (EDT)

:Hi! Sorry, I haven't been on in a few days. No I don't remember exactly where I got the info for the cover, but I suspect it was from [http://www.tfarchive.com/comics/marvel/?s=uk_301_310#309 here]. Now, where THEY got it, I have no idea. Maybe they actually have the comic. Hope this helps.--[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 09:19, 15 November 2010 (EST)
::Aha, thanks! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:16, 15 November 2010 (EST)

== "Micron Legend" <> "Micron Densetsu" ==

Why "Densetsu" instead of "Legend"? --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:48, 25 November 2010 (EST)
:That was Interrobang who changed that. I guess because we're using Micron in the name rather than Mini-Con? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 04:05, 25 November 2010 (EST)
::Whoops. And it doesn't make sense. Well, to me. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 04:07, 25 November 2010 (EST)

== Please do not block IPs infinitely ==

Please do not block IPs infinitely. They might change, even if they are static.

Sentinel Maximus

2010-12-13T17:53:11Z

86.147.81.249: Apelinq-Primal Prime fusion

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:''Sentinel Maximus is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Beast Era]] portion of the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Sentinelmaximus.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I was delivered to your previous mailing address.]]
When [[Primal Prime]] was critically damaged in a battle with [[Cryotek (RID)|Cryotek]], [[Apelinq]] made the ultimate sacrifice, allowing the ancient supercomputer [[Vector Sigma]] to merge his [[Spark]] and Primal Prime's into '''Sentinel Maximus'''. Sentinel Maximus combines Primal Prime's power, charisma, and direct link to the knowledge of the [[Matrix]] with Apelinq's strategic genius and ability to [[Transfer Interlink|download virtual objects into reality]]. When a smaller, more stealthy form is preferable, the cab portion of his armored transport mode can disengage and transform into [[Hyperlinq]]. He has no known physical weaknesses.

Despite all this, he sure gets beat up a lot.

==Fiction==
===Universe: Featuring the Wreckers===
{{quote|You mentioned something about a creator's hand, Cryotek? Or the fist of Primus? Well here we are, tyrant!|Sentinel Maximus's first words, from the unpublished [[The Wreckers: Finale Part 1|Wreckers #4]]}}

Deep within a newly reformatted [[technorganic]] [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], the Wreckers battled [[Cryotek (RID)|Cryotek]], mastermind behind and benefactor of a far-reaching plot to capture the [[Divine Light]] for himself and use its power to siphon the power of [[Primus]] himself. As Cryotek mutated himself into a gigantic entity with the abilities of a [[god]], the empowered Predacon fired upon Apelinq, but it was Primal Prime who dove to take the shot. Instead of saving Apelinq, the two were fused together and fell, defeated.

But this was not the end for either. Apelinq and Primal Prime were merged by Primus into the mighty Sentinel Maximus.

[[Image:Sentinelcryotekwreckersfinale.jpg|left|200px|thumb|The mighty Sentinel Maximus has arrived! ...and has to be rescued by Cheetor and Hot Rod!]]
Even still, Cryotek's powers were greater, and he and Sentinel Maximus fought a prolonged battle through the corridors of Cybertron. Their battle's path was directed according to instructions from their [[Quintesson]] guide, [[Al-Badur]], which landed both of them within a Quintesson [[banishment chamber]]. Unfortunately for Sentinel Maximus, the Quintesson activated the chamber with all three inside, trapped in front of a dimensional portal with a powerful pull. As Sentinel Maximus and Cryotek fought each other while trying to keep their distance from the portal, help arrived. [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] and a battle-weakened [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus]], both [[Matrix Templar|Matrix Templars]], used their abilities to drain power from the Divine Light which was empowering Cryotek. While this did remove power from Cryotek and shrink him to a more accommodating size, he still possessed enough power to threaten Cybertron and its inhabitants. Selflessly, Sentinel Maximus shoved Cryotek through the portal, and the two vanished through it.

Both found themselves hovering in a dark, empty dimension, but before Cryotek could reach Sentinel Maximus, the latter was taken away by Primus to do battle elsewhere in the [[multiverse]]. {{storylink|Wreckers: Finale Part II|Wreckers: Finale Part II}}

{{-}}
===''Cybertron'' comic===
[[Image:Sentinelmaximusnemesis.jpg|left|300px|thumb|Sentinel Maximus downloads tiny jets into reality to stop the end of the multiverse! ...and doesn't manage it.]]
Fluctuations in the fabric of the multiverse caused by the [[Unicron Singularity]] pulled Sentinel Maximus out of the [[Universe war]] and into the center of the Unicron Trilogy's [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] near the beginning of the search for the [[Cyber Planet Key|Cyber Planet Keys]]. Recruited by [[Alpha Trion (Energon)|Alpha Trion]] to assist [[Vector Prime]], they were all suddenly under attack by [[Unicron]]'s minions, [[Ramjet (Universe)|Ramjet]] and [[Nemesis Prime (Universe 2003)|Nemesis Prime]]. Sentinel Maximus fought back, but his adversaries retreated after destroying both Alpha Trion and [[Vector Sigma]]. {{storylink|Balancing Act (issue)|Balancing Act}}

After discovering that his battle with the [[zombie]] [[Dark Scorponok]] was just a diversion, Sentinel Maximus, along with Vector Prime, hunted down the two deep within Cybertron near the chamber that held [[Primus]]'s lifeforce. {{storylink|Balancing Act, Part 4|Balancing Act, Part 4}} Vector Prime fought Ramjet, taking their battle far into Cybertron's atmosphere, while Sentinel Maximus tried to prevent Nemesis Prime from unleashing the [[Dead Matrix]] on Primus's lifeforce, which would allow [[Unicron]] to defeat Primus and consume the multiverse, ending all existence forever. Sentinel Maximus failed, and Nemesis Prime sealed himself into the chamber alone, {{storylink|Balancing Act, Pt 5}} being stopped only by the chance appearance of [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Ultra Magnus (RID)|Ultra Magnus]] from the ''Robots in Disguise'' universe. {{storylink|Revelations Part 1|Revelations Part 1}}

After this battle, Vector Prime had defeated Ramjet, but was severely drained. He left the enigmatic [[Velocitron|Velocitronian]] [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]] in the obviously capable hands of Sentinel Maximus, with instructions to take him far, far away and keep him safe, for Skyfall was very important for unspecified reasons. {{storylink|Revelations Part 2|Revelations Part 2}}

[[Image:Sentinelmaximusunicron.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Sentinel Maximus goes toe-to-toe with Unicron himself! ...and calls for some other guys to save him!]]
A while later, Sentinel Maximus brought Skyfall with him to help end the violently dangerous [[Mini-Con]] civil war that had erupted on Cybertron's moons. {{storylink|Revelations Part 4|Revelations Part 4}} The civil war was actually constructed by the newly reborn Unicron, who wished to kill Skyfall and the likewise-important [[Landquake (Timelines)|Landquake]]. Unicron attacked Sentinel Maximus, singling out the "Chosen of Primus," and Sentinel Maximus was unable to get the tinier Dark God off him. He cried for help from [[Omega Prime]], who succeeded in blasting Unicron away from him. {{storylink|Revelations Part 5|Revelations Part 5}}

While Sentinel Maximus was occupied, Skyfall and Landquake disappeared in a devastating explosion. Sentinel Maximus mourned Skyfall's apparent death and voiced an apology to Vector Prime. The war was ended immediately when [[Primus]] appeared in robot mode above them, causing Unicron to flee.

Months later, after the threat of the [[Unicron Singularity]] was removed and the war between the Autobots and Decepticons was ended, Sentinel Maximus and the rest of his crew met that universe's [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] and his troops. He learned of Vector Prime's death and told [[Override (Cybertron)|Override]] of Skyfall's demise. {{storylink|Revelations Part 6|Revelations Part 6}} It is not known whether Sentinel Maximus accompanied ''Robots in Disguise'' Optimus Prime on his mission to find Unicron or was returned to his own universe.

==Toys==
===Universe===
[[Image:Sentmaxtoy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Featuring more paint than a Sherwin-Williams outlet.]]
*'''Sentinel Maximus with Mini-Con Ape-Linq''' (Max-Con, 2004)
**''Accessories'': 2 missiles

: A [[retool]] of the ''[[Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' [[Overload (Armada)|Overload]] toy, Sentinel Maximus's main body transforms into a Cybertronic carrier truck. The trailer portion can be pulled by Ape-Linq in his alt mode, the cab mode of ''Armada'' [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Optimus Prime]], or attached to Optimus's trailer to form a double trailer. It can also transform into a dual spring-loaded missile-firing cannon pack for Optimus Prime's super mode, and can also attach to Prime's trailer in its "base" mode. The robot-mode's shoulders also have opening panels to reveal (non-firing) multi-missile racks.

: Ape-Linq (aka Hyperlinq) is a retool of the [[Mini-Con]] [[Rollout (Armada)|Rollout]], transforming into a Cybertronic armored personnel carrier capable of towing the Sentinel Maximus trailer-body, and also forming the central torso and head to Sentinel Maximus's robot mode. He also has a "gun" mode with flip-out (non-firing) rifle barrels. Both the small robot head and the larger Sentinel Maximus head were given new tooling.

: An [[exclusive]] toy for [[OTFCC 2004]] (but not actually available ''at'' the convention, see notes below), it also had the electronic sound gimmick from the retail versions removed in order to keep production costs down.

: This mold-set was also used to make ''[[Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' [[Ultra Magnus (Energon)|Ultra Magnus]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Autobot/SentinelMaximus/sentinelmaximus.htm More information on Sentinel Maximus at TFU.info]''

{{--}}

==Notes==
* Sentinel Maximus went through several names before he saw release, the most notable being "Vector Prime." [[Hasbro]] rejected the name because they didn't want to dilute the concept of Primes, but later used it themselves for ''Cybertron'' [[Vector Prime]] anyway.
* Despite Sentinel Maximus's name change, his shipping carts still said "Vector Prime" on them.
* Early on, Sentinel Maximus was to come with translucent [[Redeco|redecos]] of the [[Cyberjet]] molds, meant to represent three sparks trapped inside the [[Divine Light]] for whom he downloaded digital bodies into reality. Instead, Hasbro decided to use those molds themselves for ''Universe''.

[[Image:Sentmaxpaintmockup.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Look reeeeeal close at the inside of his right arm.]]
* Sentinel Maximus's paint mock-up featured the Wreckers [[faction symbol]] (the Autobot symbol with a hammer for its forehead) tampoed on his shoulder and the inside of his right arm (seen to the right). The production piece mistakenly had normal Autobot symbols instead. Additionally, his bigger head was originally sculpted to be much wider (also seen to the right), and feature Prime-like antenna, but these didn't fit well during transformation, so his head was narrowed to eliminate the antenna.
* Due to [[3H Productions]]' loss of the convention license, Hasbro mailed out the Sentinel Maximus toys to their owners, using old mailing lists that had many outdated addresses. Some buyers never got theirs at all.
* Because of 3H's then-recent dissolution, Hasbro recreated an entire new packaging design, box art, and profile, presumably to avoid a potential legal battle. The packaging bio avoids mentioning details of 3H's Wreckers story, neglecting to note Primal Prime and Apelinq's union, and referencing Cryotek vaguely by describing a battle with a "diabolical and long-forgotten entity from the polar regions of Cybertron." Instead, Sentinel Maximus is described as a herald of Primus who emerges from the "shadows of Time to serve as a guardian over Cybertron during its darkest hour."
* Furthermore, instead of the intended name "Hyperlinq" for the Mini-Con, "Ape-Linq" is used on Sentinel Maximus's packaging, possibly because the trademark for the former had not yet been secured. Curiously, there are no trademarks claimed, registered or otherwise, next to Sentinel Maximus's name anywhere on the box. Trademark is claimed for Sentinel Maximus on the photocopied set of instructions included inside.
* Sentinel Maximus pretty much fails at everything he attempts to do.

[[Category:Cybertron Autobots]]
[[Category:Dimension hoppers]]
[[Category:Children of Primus]]
[[Category:Convention exclusives]]
[[Category:Headmasters]]
[[Category:Universe Autobots]]
[[Category:Wreckers]]

Windrazor (BW)

2010-12-13T17:51:18Z

86.147.81.249: Devrived from Swoop; Swoop is technically a Autobot and Autobot deviratives are Autobots still.

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{{disambig3|Windrazor}}
:''Windrazor is a [[Maximal]]/[[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] from the [[Beast Wars (franchise)|Beast Wars]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]]''

[[Image:Windrazor bw.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"The Autobot legacy lives on!"]]

'''Windrazor''' was the imperfect result of a radical experiment conducted under the most desperate conditions. In the 32nd Century, Cybertron is ruled by the Predacon Warlord [[Shokaract]] and only a tiny resistance of Maximals and Predacons remains to fight him. In order to gain vital intelligence, a Maximal known as [[Swoop (G1)|the Veteran]] merged his [[spark]] with a dying Predacon—the [[Cub]], resulting in a dual-sparked hybrid, Windrazor himself. He possesses both youthful recklessness and battle-tested wisdom, and should potentially benefit from both; but the merging was imperfect, and Windrazor's two component personalities can clash for control of his actions.

==Fiction==
===3H continuity===
====''Tales from the Beast Wars''====
[[Image:Sandstormwindrazor.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Buy us last year!]]
Windrazor, despite his inner struggle between two disparate sparks, was deemed the best hope to destroy Shokaract and end his dystopian reign. He traveled to [[J'nwan]], where the walls of time and space were not so certain, in the hopes of sending himself back in time, to end Shokaract's rule before it could begin. But [[Cataclysm (BW)|Cataclysm]] was there waiting, and the two met in a ferocious battle. Cataclysm was destroyed in the seas of time, but Windrazor found himself thrown far into the past, into the prehistoric [[Earth]] of the [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]]. He immediately recognized [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]], recently having taken a dragon form, as the Predacon criminal ascended from the throat of the volcano in which the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] lay.

Windrazor picked up the tracking device that Cataclysm had dropped during their battle, and began following its signal to the [[Dark Essence]]. At his destination, Windrazor could sense the dark energies below the Earth's crust, and the Dark Essence tore up the earth beneath him, revealing itself. The area was on the verge of a temporal collapse. Windrazor's dual nature fought within his mind, one half wishing to leave the area to its inevitable collapse, the other wishing to take the Dark Essence back to his own time and present it as a trophy to Shokaract. But before Windrazor could make a decision, Megatron arrived, recognizing the Dark Essence as belonging to [[Unicron]], and intending to take it for himself. During the scuffle, Windrazor was seized by influence of the Dark Essence, and became the vessel of Unicron himself.

[[Image:Windrazorgrabbed.jpg|right|thumb|200px|"Grabbed," "completely forgot about," potato potahto.]]

Optimus Primal and his Maximals valiantly fought the possessed Windrazor, but were unsuccessful. Just as all hope seemed loss, the two minds within Windrazor were able to break free of Unicron's influence, and Windrazor recomposed himself. Just in time for Shokaract himself to arrive... {{storylink|Herald, Covenant, Schism, Paradox}}

Again, the Maximals were no match for their adversary, and they quickly fell, leaving only Primal and Windrazor. But they weren't alone for long, as the [[Covenant]] arrived through a portal, ready to fulfill their destiny. They, too, began falling at Shokaract's hand, one by one. Not even the arrival of [[Sandstorm (BW)|Sandstorm]], displaced beast warriors, or an army of retired legends from [[J'nwan]] could stand up to Shokaract's might. Just as Windrazor was beginning to wonder if this all was futile, the Covenant regrouped. Their combined essence plunged into Shokaract's [[Matrix of Conquest]], where it severed the link between him and Unicron. With Shokaract's origin now nullified, his entire timeline--and thus the events necessary for Windrazor's creation--ceased to exist.{{storylink|Terminus}} [[Apelinq]] grabbed Windrazor and flew through a [[transwarp]] portal back to his [[Beast Machines (franchise)|own time]], only to find upon arrival that Windrazor had vanished without a trace. {{storylink|Departure}}

====''Universe''====
While in transwarp space, Windrazor was retrieved by [[Primus]], whose divine intervention protected the young Maximal from being nullified along with the timeline of his origin. Windrazor was safely deposited in a new location to serve as a sort of "spirit guide" for other champions of Primus, and eventually he was able to convey his gratitude to Apelinq's [[Sentinel Maximus|upgraded form]]. {{storylink|Wreckers: Finale Part II}}
{{--}}

===IDW ''Beast Wars'' comics===
Windrazor is the fusion of a young Maximal's spark and the mysterious Veteran, formed to save the former's life after a savage betrayal. Before long, Windrazor was corrupted by the [[Angolmois]] energy and served as [[Herald of Unicron|Unicron's herald]]. He traveled from universe to universe, enacting Unicron's will, until eventually he was able to wrest free of its influence and become a force for good. The remaining Angolmois energy in Windrazor's body allows him to continue traveling between dimensions and through time. {{storylink|Beast Wars Sourcebook|Beast Wars Sourcebook 4}}

==Games==
===''Transformers Beast Wars: Transmetals'' video game===
:'''Voice actor:''' [[Chris Tang]]
[[Image:Windrazor-psx.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"Windrazor's 'player two' colors from the game—so pretty! (But not as pretty as Silverbolt's!)"]]

When Megatron broke free during his transport back to Cybertron, he sent a message through transwarp to himself in the past, causing a critical chapter of the Beast Wars to be rewritten.

Windrazor joined in the battle that subsequently ensued, using his special attack "Spark Extinguisher" to fight back Megatron and his minions. He encouraged all to learn from the past so they may live for the future.

{{Note|Windrazor is an "unlockable" character exclusive to the American/European PlayStation version. To unlock him, the player must select either "vs. human" or "vs computer" in Versus Mode, then hold X and keep it held as the player immediately presses and holds L1, L2, R1, and R2, and the directional right. Once unlocked, the character will remain playable without having to repeat the code.}}
{{--}}

==Toys==
===Beast Wars===
[[Image:BWtoy-Windrazor.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"Spaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrk extinguisher!"]]
*'''Windrazor''' (Deluxe, 1999)
**''Accessories'': Left & right feather-missiles

: Windrazor is a white-with-purple-accents [[redeco]] of the Maximal [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]], transforming into an eagle-wolf hybrid creature. His wings have spring-loaded missile launchers, while pulling on his beast-mode tail swings them forward. These missiles can also be used as hand-held melee weapons in robot mode. He was available [[exclusive]]ly at the [[BotCon 1999]] Transformers Convention. 1200 were made of both him and [[Sandstorm (BW)|Sandstorm]].

: Windrazor is the only convention-original exclusive sold on a card with a sealed plastic bubble. The packaging proved unpopular with collectors as it is impossible to remove the toy without destroying its packaging, and so that style was never used again.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1999/Maximal/Windrazor/windrazor.htm More information on Windrazor at TFU.info]''
{{--}}

==Notes==

[[Image:BWtoy-Windrazorcarded.jpg|right|thumb|150px|You had to destroy this beautiful thing to get your toy out.]]
* Windrazor's pre-release name was the terrible pun "Soulstice".

* His video game appearance afforded fans a chance to hear what Windrazor [[:Image:Windrazor.ogg|sounds like]].

* The ''[[Beast Wars Sourcebook]]'' gives Windrazor the same weapons as generation one Swoop—heat seeking missiles and thermal swords. Despite the fact that the swords and missiles are, y'know, the same thing. He has thermal heat seeking missile swords!

*Both Windrazor's toy bio and the ''Beast Wars Sourcebook'' claim [[Cub|his younger part]] was a Maximal, which wasn't exactly the case in his fictional appearances.

*Prior to his appearance in "Wreckers: Finale Part II", Windrazor had not appeared in fiction for seven years, leading some fans in the interim to conclude that he had been erased from existence.

[[Category:Beast Wars Maximals]]
[[Category:Beast Wars Predacons]]
[[Category:Convention exclusives]]
[[Category:Unicron-related characters]]

Talk:Insignia

2010-09-26T20:53:41Z

86.147.49.201: /* The 5 Predacon symbols - Whoopsie...wrong file names guys */

__TOC__

There's such an AWESOME buried assumption in a section called 'Known Faction Symbols.' This whole idea that there are UNKNOWN faction symbols too. The idea that there is a BODY to this story beyond what's been written, the idea that it has a form BEFORE it's written... is facinating. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:40, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't feel the Transtech faction symbols belong here. The line never happened. The events after BM have been well established- Transtech was not it. TFU stupidity aside- they are not all Autobots and Decepticons now.

And I have to ask- there was an Arachnoid faction-symbol?

Yea there was a screencap in Lone Maximal's faction symble thread b4 the allspark went down. [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 15:27, 4 April 2006 (PDT)

I think it's fine to include them, just with an info note that they're unused.

Speaking of rare symbols I really want the 5 Predacon symbols from IDW Beast Wars to be up here too, but should they go under BW PRedacon or be their own thing?

Also there should be pics of both the regular Con symbol and the three-pointed Cartoon version.

Oh and we should look through DW/IDW art to see if there are any other unnamed symbols there on buildings or anything. [[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 22:28, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Do we want to include pics of the diffrent variations of the faction cymbols that appeared on the toy packageing? I have the symbols from the top of the old Tech Spec archive saved on my PC and found images for the Blendtron and Commando symbols. I don't have the Cybertron symbols though.--[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 23:11, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I'd like both, frankly. My source for the G2 Autobot is distressingly low-resolution (I consider anythign under 400px wide low reolution) and I'm not entiely sure my blendtron synbol is 100% right. (there 1 or two edges I couldnt' tell if they were suppsoed to be rounded or squared off.)-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:09, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

The G2 Decepticon symbol looks nothing whatsoever like Clench besides sharing that diamond-shaped forehead crest, and it's missing arguably the most distinguishing feature of Clench's face - the triangular (point-up) mouthplate. In my opinion, the G2 symbol is clearly a stylized version of the G1 Decepticon symbol. Similarly, there is essentially no similarity between the G2 Autobot symbol and Pyro - the G2 Autobot symbol couldn't much more clearly be Optimus Prime.

Also, why is the CR Combatron insignia under "Beast Era"? `[[User:LV|LV]] 17:50, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

I'd need to go back to my G2 issues to check, but I question the validity of suggesting that the G2 Decepticon and Cybertronian symbols are any different. (The only distinction shown here is color, anyway) I also question the simplified versions of the symbols used in the cartoon as "symbols" in their own right, but it seems that I've already been outvoted on that count. The only thing I ''would'' ask for is some source text, especially for the more obscure symbols. If they're going to be here, we need to know where they come from.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 18:52, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and I totally disagree with the note that the G1 Decepticon symbol is based on Soundwave. This is a myth that has perpetuated for years, but has no basis in fact.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 18:56, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
: Well, technically, it's based on the Decepticon symbol looking just like Soundwave's toy head. But the note is gone for the moment. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:28, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
::Walky, I know you've got a good eye. Maybe you're seeing something I don't. But that's just it. To me, Soundwave's toy's head looks NOTHING like the Decepticon symbol. I've seen folks say this for years, but I'm just not seeing it....--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 22:42, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
:::http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/itswalky/soundwavedecepticonsymbol.jpg
:::There's some obvious correlation here. But nothing I can say with absolute certainty, so the note is down until further notice. But, damn, the Decepticon symbol does look like it was based on an abstraction of Soundwave's noggin. The crest, the horns, the shape of the face, everything. I think Soundwave's cartoon face is distracting you. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:01, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
::::No, I'm thinking toy-face. (Thanks for the side-by-side, incidentally). Still, I don't think I'd say the Decepticon symbol is "based on" Soundwave, any more than I'd say that there's a generic similarity of shape. But we're mincing minutia at this point. Thanks for indulging me.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 23:55, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::I believe Floro Dery mentioned in an interview that the faction symbols were based on abstractions of faces done by another artist. I also put it to you that the Autobot insignia is probably an abstraction of Prowl's toy face. Unfortunately we have no CONCRETE evidence for the sources of the insignias -- other than Dery's comments. --[[User:Jhiaxus|Jhiaxus]] 11:24, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

There is no "Seacon space pirate" sigil. A comical skull-and-crossbones on the sail does not a sigil make. The toy packaging gives them the same purple insect-head Predacon sigil every other badguy in the series gets. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:42, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Hey, someoen put the Blendtron symbol under Unicron in G1. When was the Blendtron symbol used outside of Neo? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:42, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

E-hobby Overcharge [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 02:50, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
:But didn't we decide to default to the line of origin unless there was a commanding reason to use another? Also, we tend not to link things multiple times in the same article, so I see no reason why the Blendtron symbol should show up twice here. Methinks someone's been more than a tad overzealous....--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 13:43, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

==Shattered Glass Nightbeat's Symbol==
If we have a section for the Shattered Glass faction symbols, shouldn't Nightbeat's be there, too? I know he's an (evil) Autobot, but he has that unique Autobot logo with the dagger on his hood.

==Article title==

I recently moved this article to correct the second capitalized word. However, I am unsure as to whether to move it again and remove the plural. Most article names are singular, even for something like [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicon]]. However, one of the points of this article is to describe and show many faction symbols. This sort of implies a plural title to me. So... I'm conflicted. Does anybody have an opinion? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 22:34, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I think that if this were an article describing the general signifigance of a faction symbol, that might be appropriate. But this is a list of Faction Symbols. The list is inherenly plural, there's like 30 of 'em. 'Faction Symbol,' describing the role and importance of saction symbols in general might be a seperate article- this is a list. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:39, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

==The 5 Predacon symbols==
I want to add the 5 symbols from IDW Beast Wars, but I have a concern. There is no cannonical evidence that they are actually faction symbols. We never see anyone useing them. Right now, the only thing we know about them is that they were used as wall decoration.

Or do we just assume they ''are'' faction symbols? --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 15:42, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

:Add them. If we decide they go somewhere else (and I think they probably do, likely the Predacon faction page, or maybe the Predacon sub-group, I dunno...) we'll move them.
:Reminder, you can find the rest of... uh.... Ramhorn's partially obscurred symbol in the pencil-sketch previews to Beast Wars #1 that appeared in Infiltration. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:11, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
::Headstrong. Ramhorn is the Autobot rhino cassette. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:59, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

:::The exception that prooves the rule. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:13, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
::::....what? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 01:58, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

==The 5 Predacon symbols - Whoopsie...wrong file names guys==
Two of these emblems were switched. Razorclaw and Rampage's emblems were assigned to the wrong name. I've fixed this in the actual gallery of the emblems with an edit, but the names of the images are still swapped.[[User:Sidecutter|Sidecutter]]
:Why the heck would Rampage's emblem sport a mane and Razorclaw's not sport a mane? The comic they appear in even show Razorclaw's maned symbol as being the most prominently displayed. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:31, 19 September 2010 (EDT)
::If you actualy look at the emblems being displayed, that was exactly my point, but someone has made it incorrect again. Razorclaw's orange, maned symbol that matches his beast head is listed with *Rampage's* name. Rampage's red, non-maned symbol, which matches his beast head, is listed with *Razorclaw's* name. The symbols also have the wrong file names, with Razroclaw's symbol named "Rampage Symbol.png" and Rampage's symbol named "Razorclaw Symbol.png". Here is how it was displayed before I fixed it the first time, and this time: <gallery>
Image:Razorclaw Symbol.png|'''[[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]]'''
Image:Tantrum Symbol.png|'''[[Tantrum]]'''
Image:Divebomb symbol.png|'''[[Divebomb (G1)|Divebomb]]'''
Image:Headstrong symbol.png|'''[[Headstrong]]'''
Image:Rampage symbol.png|'''[[Rampage (G1)|Rampage]]'''
</gallery>
::And here is how it is displayed now:
<gallery>
Image:Rampage symbol.png|'''[[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]]'''
Image:Tantrum Symbol.png|'''[[Tantrum]]'''
Image:Divebomb symbol.png|'''[[Divebomb (G1)|Divebomb]]'''
Image:Headstrong symbol.png|'''[[Headstrong]]'''
Image:Razorclaw Symbol.png|'''[[Rampage (G1)|Rampage]]'''
</gallery>
::Now as far as I know (I may simply not know how), I can't change the file names. Therefore, I can't fix it that way. But if you look at the page now that I've corrected the gallery again, you'll see that even though the filenames appear "wrong" when you look at the list to edit it, the pictures are actually correct now.[[User:Sidecutter|Sidecutter]] 16:09, 26 September 2010 (EDT)
:::It looks to me that the red one is the guy with a mane. The yellow one doesn't look like it has a mane. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:19, 26 September 2010 (EDT)
::::I don't see how you can see it that way. The shapes of the faces are wrong for the supposed character they represent. The color of each one is also matched to the character it should be (orange/yellow for Razorclaw's beast head, red for Rampage's). Compare each emblem to the toy on TFU.info and it's very clear that the filenames on these are wrong. http://www.tfu.info/1986/Decepticon/Razorclaw/razorclaw.htm http://www.tfu.info/1986/Decepticon/Rampage/rampage.htm [[User:Sidecutter|Sidecutter]] 16:23, 26 September 2010 (EDT)
::::I've also just gone through the trade to see the originals. The red one shown there might be more feasible as Razorclaw, if still the wrong color. However, if that is the case, the rendition we have here is a very bad one, because the shapes of the symbol parts and the proportions of each part are WAY off from the comic. It's a much narrower symbol here. [[User:Sidecutter|Sidecutter]] 16:44, 26 September 2010 (EDT)
:::::I've definitely gotta go with Sidecutter here, the orange one is definitely the one with a mane. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:51, 26 September 2010 (EDT)
::::::I'm with Walky, the yellow one has cheek tufts NOT a mane. Thus it is a tiger. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:52, 26 September 2010 (EDT)
:::::::Yes, also with Walky. The red one is the one with a mane, I don't know how you can look at it any other way. - [[Special:Contributions/86.147.49.201|86.147.49.201]] 16:53, 26 September 2010 (EDT)

==Miscellaneous issues==
===Robots in Diguise Commando===
When was that term used? What's the difference between a RiD Commando and a RiD Decepticon?

::I'm assuing this is a placeholder spot for the Car Robots Destronger symbol, which was a green, upside-down G2 Autobot sigil. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:46, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

===Bot/Con Symbols in RiD/UT sections?===
Should the Autobot and Decepticon (and Predacon in RiD) symbols also be listed in the Robots in Disguise amd Unicron Trilogy sections? It might be misleading if only unique symbols are listed in those sections. "Are Minicons and Powerlinx the only factions in the Unicron Trilogy?"
===Organization===
The G1 section seems to be vaguely organized chronologically, but Beast Wars doesn't make sense to me. Since certain chronological listings might be debatable (Ancient Autobot and Ancient Transformer: who comes first, etc), I propose to make each section alphabetical. 
Generation 1 
Autobot 
Autobot (Ancient) 
Autobot (The War Within) 
Decepticon 
etc.

Also, why does G2 get a seperate sction, but Beast Machines does not?

===''Factions''?===
There is no basis for calling the five IDW Beast Wars symbols "factions", and the Energon Powerlinx symbols are not factions. But I want to keep a page with all these symbols. Rename article to just "Symbols"? Or maybe that would open it up too much. Just a rambling thought.

Don't want to make any changes without talking about it. Thanks for listening. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 01:03, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
--[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 01:03, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

:I think it's fine titled "faction symbols" but also inlcuding symbols that aren't strictly of "factions," with appropriate notations about whether a symbol is a variant of a faction symbol or just something faction symbol-esque that's close enough for inclusion, etc. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 01:20, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

::They might move if we get enough other signage and symbols. (We have, for instance, two seperate Cybertronian medical symbols, one Autobot and one Decepticon.)
::You mgith argue that if we have a page liek thism we maybe should have a much-clearer 'factions' page that, as Crockcrikey suggests, list which factions appear in which series, makign this page just abouth the SYMBOLS. As it's it's kinda dual-purpose, providing quick bio's about the faction in addition to the symbols and variants themselves. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:48, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
::In that case, where should things like, say, Sideways's split-down-the-middle insignia from his packaging and the Maximal/Vehicon blend found on the Beast Changer toy go, if anywhere at all? On the other hand, if it stays here and keeps gathering up symbols that aren't strictly "faction" symbols, somebody ought to add the planet symbols from Cybertron/Galaxy force--[[User:Nemesis Primal|Nemesis Primal]] 22:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

== Um, guys, you forgot something... ==

Not to be a nudge, but the normal G1 Decepticon symbol isn't actually pictured in the article anywhere except in the pic that has it inserted in the cobra insignia. Also, a pic of the "three-pointed" cartoon version might help in showing exactly where the difference lies. --[[User:Nemesis Primal|Nemesis Primal]] 22:21, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Anyone going to throw in Dreamwave's alternate Unicron faction symbol? I remember it being used for the MTMTE profiles for Nemesis Prime and maybe Sideways, although I don't have it on hand. I feel that it's required.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 07:46, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

==Team Ironhide==
Dunno if we want to include this, since it's just an abstraction of Energon Ironhide's head, but there's a good shot of it [http://www.fantofan.jp/news/video/superlink456.JPG here]. Plus, [http://www.fantofan.jp/news/video/superlink4510.JPG here] and [http://www.fantofan.jp/news/video/superlink444.JPG here]. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 11:48, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

==Planet symbols...==
I'm... not really sure about these as "faction symbols". I dunno. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:27, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

:See the discussion above ("'''''Factions''?'''") for more input on the inclusion of non-faction symbols. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 16:27, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

::I think the consensus was- "Wait until we have anough non-faction symbols here to justify splittign them off into their own page." We're getting close, but that'll necessitate a long, unpleasant discussion about what is and isn't a faction symbol. (For instance, I think the IDW Quint symbol is the US Quint faction symbol- just like we have American and Japanese Unicron-allied symbols.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:32, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

:::IDW Quint symbol? I hope you don't mind me asking where that's shown, out of curiousity. -[[User:Tindalos|Tindalos]] 19:43, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

== Hmm... ==

[[Image:Optimus symbol.png|100px]] [[Image:Maximal symbol.png|100px]]

...probably just my imagination. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 16:45, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

== G1 "Cartoon" vs "Comic" symbols ==
OK, time for an opinion poll: Should there be pix of both the "Cartoon" and "Comic" versions of the G1 Bot & Con symbols? I would say so, and several of you expressed the same opinion in the above discussions. Earlier today I added the cartoon Bot symbol and the comic Con symbol thereby completing the "pairs", but not soon after, the comic versions were removed. I have since replaced them, not to rebuff that editor, but based on the reasoning that if we can have five different colored Powerlinx symbols (?!), why would we '''not''' have both distinct variations of the two '''''main''''' symbols. Thoughts, anyone? [[User:Evil-yuusha|Evil-yuusha]] 03:25, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

:Well, your cartoon Decepticon symbol doesn't look like the cartoon Decepticon symbol, for one. I'm guessing that was part of the cause for the reversion. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:44, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

::Indeed. There are different Powerlinx symbols depicted because those are all legitimately distinct symbols which were intended to be legitimately distinct symbols, and they all *mean different things*. The Autobot/Decepticon symbols in the cartoon/comic/toyline are all the same symbol but rendered differently due to media format. We are NOT going to have separate entries for every single mis-render of the same symbol design. That's absurd.
::As Derik pointed out, what you had uploaded wasn't even the "cartoon versions" of those symbols! Those are just the fancy painted versions thereof that were on toy packages, some Marvel Comics covers, and, of course, the toys. I reworked all of that because it was ''inaccurate.'' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:40, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

:::It ''might'' be reasonable to include the cartoon version of the Decepticon symbol, since it had the whole triple-point deal going. But as far as I know there's no equivalent variation in the Autobot symbol. And, as stated, the painted Decepticon symbol is '''NOT''' the cartoon's variant Decepticon symbol. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 14:18, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Well thank you for pointing out how "absurd" my reasoning is Walky, its certainly more informative than your previous Post Summary of "Argh". I think some clarification may be needed, as there seems to be confusion (very possibly on my part).
::::This is one of the two images I posted:
::::[[Image:symbol_autobot_dx_edit.jpg|40px]]Is this what you all would deem "cartoon" or "comic"? Or if neither, why?
::::[[Image:symbol_decept_reg.jpg|35px]] This is the other image I posted. Cartoon? Comic? Neither?
::::Seeing as how I posted one version of the Bot symbol and the OTHER version of the Con symbol (the two that were missing at the time), how can I be wrong in both cases?

::::And just for the record, when I re-posted what I perceive to be the "comic" versions, I replaced [[Image:Autobot symbol.png|40px]] (which was what was previously posted), with [[Image:Symbol_autobot_reg.jpg|40px]], simply because I thought it looked nicer. [[User:Evil-yuusha|Evil-yuusha]] 15:26, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

::::: That first Autobot symbol only appeared on Hasbro packaging from '84 to '86, Japanese packaging, cartoon scene bumpers, and some comic covers. The Decepticon symbol in the cartoon generally had a 3rd spike on the center top piece due to the beveling on the "packaging" symbol being misinterpreted. We're not going to have a picture of every interpertation of every symbol, lest we have a pic of the changes the packaging symbol when through in the G1 line, the different color borders in G2, the slightly different shapes from RID, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, Classics, and the movie. Diffrent styles does not equal a new faction symbol. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 16:21, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

:::::Also, that white-border Autobot sigil looks blurry. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 16:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

::::::Blurry, eh? I thought it was just my contacts. =) I agree that variation does not a new symbol make, but to me it seemed significant to show the two '''distinctly''' different "variations" of these two symbols. (And I'm not talking about "third point crest cartoon" version, or what have you.) The 3-D, glossy, transition-color "deluxe-looking" (if you will) version appearing on packaging, toon bumpers, etc to my knowledge (and i'm sure someone will correct me if im wrong) was never used on an actual '''figure''', nor did characters in the comics and/or cartoon bear sigils with this appearance. It more or less had media-only usage, correct? In contrast, the 2-D, matte, solid-color "plain-looking" version was the type used on the toys, as well as typically being seen on animated/drawn characters.

::::::Was there ever melding of these two styles? A 3-D glossy symbol with solid colors? or a 2-D matte symbol that transitioned in color? If there was, then I humbly retract my previous ramblings and apologize to the community at large (especially Walky, who seems keen on shooting down whatever i do anyway. And yes, I am aware of the differences between the powerlink colors, but I think my point has validity nonetheless). In any event i do admit to being confused as to exaclty what the "cartoon version" of the Con symbol was in reference to (thank you FortMax). =P

:::::::But if I am correct in saying that there is a '''''measure of deliniation''''' between these two styles, and not just a simple case of "variation" (which is essentially what the "three point crest" is, and you guys seem to think that's worthy of mention), then at the very least I think they should be shown as a footnote of some type to the page, perhaps following the Unused symbols. [[User:Evil-yuusha|Evil-yuusha]] 18:06, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

::::::All of the G1 merchandise that had a symbol not taken from boxart used the logo symbols. The one exception is the marvel US comics, but that was due to the low-tech printing methods used. Plus, whatever the border shaps or solidness of the color, it's still recognizable as the Autobot symbol. The only time we would need a cartoon version on this page is when said sigil only appears in the cartoon. Plus, the only fictional apperences of the package style sigils (that I know of) are in scene bumpers, commercial bumpers, and titles, none of which actually happen in-universe, and the solid colored symbol appeared on the toys before the cartoon or comics were released.

:An example of the cartoon Decepticon symbol might be a good idea though. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 20:08, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

== TWW Predacon and LSC symbols ==

Did the TWW Predacons (Starscream's group) or the Lightning Strike Coalition (Grimlocks group) have their own faction symbols? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 20:12, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
: Not that I'm aware of. And they both continue to wear their respective Con/Bot logos on themselves. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:50, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
::Although I'm pretty sure they've started being the standard symbols instead of the TWW ones by then. -[[User:LV|LV]] 01:00, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

== Ancient Transformer Symbol ==

Ok, whoever called shannanigans, explain your objection... I admit It's been a long time since I've looked at some DW issues but the Anceint unified faction bit seems to jive with what I remember being said. Anyone who's looked at things recently clarrify? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 22:07, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
:The ancient faction symbol appeared on the Vector Sigma room, the Archives (IIRC) and the golden Disk room on Paradron. It's ''ancient'', and it has nothing to do with Shockwave. Shockwave welded a blank plate over his faction symbol- he didn't create a new hybrid symbol. There ''was'' no Hybrid symbol for Shockwav'es reign on Cybertron.
:So in short, the nature of my objection is... it's wrong. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:17, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

::So, uh... fix it? Why call shenanigans instead? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 02:10, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
:::'cuz I didn't want to be the one to fix it, being next-deep in other edits at the time. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:32, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

== Change page title to "Insignia"? ==

This page hasn't really ever been limited to faction symbols, so I think a move is in order. Anyone disagree? [[User:Chip|Chip]] 02:37, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
:Disagree, because how would I ever find it then? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:48, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
:: DEAR GOD, CHANGE IT NOW. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:54, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

::: :~( -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:56, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

:: It would unfortunately redirect. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 03:03, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

==Ancient Decepticon and BWII Seacons==

"Ancient Decepticon" has been here a long time with no symbol. Does an ancient Decepticon symbol exist? Also, yea or nay on BWII Seacons symbol? (Unless someone can find a better image of [http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Seacons_bw.jpg that flag], it's moot anyway.) --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 20:38, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:I think someone had a seacon skull up at one point- or at least there was a discussion about its variations...
:I've removed ancient decepticon- AFAIK, that's a relic of an unofficial reprolabel set that decided Shockwave's funky symbol was the counterpart of the ancient Autobot symbol- in defiance of all context. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:46, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
===That picture isn't even the right symbol===
From the BWII movie
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9069/spacepirateseaconsignalao1.jpg - 85.195.123.24 20:50, 22 May 2007

:::Ooh, that's '''much''' clearer than the VCD I have. Is there an new not-centosaur encode floating around? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:53, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::That's an excellent image. Now what's this about variations? P.S. 85, don't forget to sign your posts with four tildes ~ And why not just get a user name. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 01:33, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

==Shockwave insignia==
Can someone put this up? I'm pretty sure it was reused semi-recently, either in a DW/IDW book or as one of Overcharge's labels... right? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 20:46, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
:You're probably thinking of the Reprolabels set. It hasn't shown up anywhere else official, that I've heard of. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 21:15, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
::Hey, now it HAS showed up! TakaraTomy's [http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/TF/bible/index.html World of the Transformers], Episode 4 has given it a name. It's the "Cybertron Guard" insignia. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 16:39, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

:::I KNOW! I just noticed that! I uploaded it once a long time ago, but it was deleted. I can re-upload it this evening, if someone else can't get to it before then. Inversely proportional: my excitement about this symbol - my social life --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 16:54, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
::::[[Image:shocksymb.jpg]] --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 16:59, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

== Megatron's symbol? ==

I don't think this is specifically associated with Megatron. It's also on [[Emirate Xeon]]'s forehead in [[The War Within]].--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 16:55, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
:Also, the "Ratbat Symbol" depicts insignia seen on ''many'' Transformers associated with the Senate in Origin. In the first issue, all the ship crew for the Senator's vessel have it on their foreheads.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 16:58, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

::You'll get no argument from me. I had a feeling my descriptives weren't 100% accurate. So, if you know stuff that I don't about these symbols, please add it. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 17:10, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

[[Image:Emirate Xeon symbol.png|100px]][[Image:Megatron Origin Symbol.png|100px]]

Really I'd still venture that they're the same symbol, the difference being that Figueroa tends to be a bit more precise than Milne. Now, what I'm about to say is pure ''speculation'' and thus probably doesn't deserve to be in the article itself, but I'd wager it's a regional insignia that has to do with Kokular or [[Kaon]], as Emirates are regional governors. Alternately, I suppose Megatron's gladiatorial medallion might be an alteration or perversion of the Kokular/Kaon symbol, showing its continuing evolution into the Decepticon insignia. But I'll let others put their two cents in.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 18:18, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

:From page to page, the Megatron: Origin symbol changes a tad, but certain elements of Xeon's symbol never manifest in Megatron's: the separate crest, the nose/slice down the middle, the cheeks, and Xeon's horns go down, Megatron's go up. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 19:13, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
::Well, looks like we got some clarification in Origin 3. The insignia is a team designation, and it's on a chain because team rosters are not fixed. Megatron later has the Decepticon insignia on a chain, which to me says that the prior insignia was for Clench's team which Megatron took over.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 20:48, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

== Cybertron Security Forces ==

New insignia for them in Origin #3, if you've seen it. Displayed on the flags over the coffins and on the headstone.

Man, this series is just like ''delicious candy'' regarding new insignia.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 20:43, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

:Yeah, I love it. It's like insignia Christmas this week! --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 22:03, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
::[[Image:Security symbol Megatron Origin.png|100px]] 
::Well, here it is. Before it's added to the article, I wanted to be sure of what it should be called. Is "Cybertron Security Forces" what they're officially called the comic? --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 22:53, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Issue #3 is saying "Autobot Security" but I'll have to get home before I can compare it to the prior two and see if they're called that throughout.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 23:02, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Whose funeral? I feel like the yellow should be the same yellow as Decimus's symbol. (Or rather, Decimus's symbol should be the same yellow as this.)

Also, I think the page is getting populated enough that we should start some long-term thinking about reorganization. Either by creating a faction symbol page in addition to the insignia page, or switching to a combo list/gallery format lie that seen in the [[holomatter]] article. No need for quick decisions, I'm just throwing it out there. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:03, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
:[[Fastback (G1)|Fastback]] and [[Bumper (G1)|Bumper]]'s funeral. They received an official state funeral presided over by [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]], as described in [[Megatron Origin issue 3|the summary I recently wrote]].--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 23:06, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
::Oh, I didn't realize it was out yet. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:38, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
:RE: yellow. Comparing the colors, Decimus' is more of a gold in the comic, and the funeral flags on the coffins are more yellow. (I'm assuming the flags are the "real" color of the symbol, as opposed to the monochromatic plaque [http://markerguru.deviantart.com/art/megatron03-sample-06-64189148]) --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 00:32, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Alright, I forgot to log in before doing it, but I double-checked all three issues and it is referred to in two separate issues as "Security Services HQ" and "Autobot Security Headquarters." I've split the difference in their insignia entry on the page, and am now moving to correct the reference in my issue synopsis.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 01:56, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

== Reorg ==

I've done a slight reorg of the sections and split G1 up by history/subcontinuity. Hope that helps somewhat.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 23:34, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
:I'd say the page is starting to finally come into its own regarding ease of access and information density. What do you guys think? Is the gallery format helping?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 19:02, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::Yes. I think the content maybe needs some rewriting to fit it better... but that'll correct itself in time. This format is 100% better. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:13, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

== Redirects Please? ==

Don't know how to do redirects myself. Could someone else create redirects from [[Symbol]] and [[Badge]] to this article? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 21:49, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

: Done. Redirects are easy. Type #REDIRECT then space, then the double-bracket-link to the page you want to redirect to. Or just click [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Symbol&action=edit here] and see what it looks like. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 22:02, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

== Animated insignia. ==

First, we can't use them if they're that small.

Second, what we've seen of the toys indicates the insignia aren't new at all, so what you may be seeing in the teaser art/videos can be attributed to artistic style rather than changes to the symbols.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 22:57, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

== Cobybot insignia ==

What do you guys think? I mean sure, it's just an Autobot symbol with two wrenches, but it's still probably worth adding, right? [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] 16:21, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

== The Decepticon sigil's colour ==

In some of the shows the Decepticon sigil is clearly blue. Yet is purple on the toys from those shows. Does anyone know why?

== Animated - Team Chaar ==

Should the [http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:Blackoutanimated.jpg Team Chaar symbol] be here?
Is it even a separate symbol, or just Blackout's custom (a relic from the Great War maybe?)? -- [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 07:23, 30 August 2009 (EDT)
:Nobody else from Team Chaar seems to have that symbol, so it's likely that it's exclusive to Blackout. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 07:54, 30 August 2009 (EDT)

=="Shields"?==
So some of the licensed material (i.e., the [[Candy Mix]] refers to the insignia as "shields." Are there any other materials that give an official-type name to the faction logos? [[User:Hooper X|Hooper_X]] 12:32, 1 November 2009 (EST)

==Machine Wars==
The MW Decepticon insignia is noticeably different from G1, with very rounded sad-looking eyes and fuzzy indistinct outer margins. It looks like somebody at Hasbro circa 1996 tried to re-create the G1 logos from very poor or possibly even bootlegged source material.
Two questions:
 -Are there comparable differences between the G1 and MW Autobots? 
-Are these differences significant enough to warrant inclusion here? 
--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 22:37, 20 April 2010 (EDT)

== Energon Unicron ==

The Unicron insignia in Energon section is not only appeared in the Energon cartoon as a special sequence, but literally on TakaraTomy's official Armada(Micron Legend) site and the toy's Japanese package as well.
Shouldn't it be considered as the insignia for Trilogy, at least of TakaraTomy version?

Create-A-Bot (Decepticon)

2007-12-15T12:12:48Z

86.147.170.137: /* Alt-Modes */

{{disambig2|the Decepticon|his heroic counterpart|Create-A-Bot (Autobot)}}

:''Create-A-Bot is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Movie (franchise)|Movie]] [[continuity family]].''
{{bigthumb|Create-a-bot decepticon ds headshot.png|189px|My com-icon looks suspiciously like Barricade's silhouette.}}

:''('''Note''': Create-A-Bot's in-game name is chosen by the players of the [[Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|'''Transformers Decepticons''']] video game, and can be anything up to seven letters. "Create-A-Bot" is the name used in the credits, and thus, what is used here.)''

==Fiction==
===Transformers Autobots===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Steve Blum]]

The first time the evil multi-former appears is as the first boss of the game, where he faces off against his identically voiced [[Create-A-Bot (Autobot)|Autobot counterpart]] before the do-gooder can escape to Tranquility. He is later seen when the Autobots eavesdrop on a conversation with Megatron in the Hoover Dam.

===Transformers Decepticons===

Commanded by [[Starscream (Movie)|Lord Starscream]], Create-A-Bot arrived on Earth to locate the origin of a Decepticon distress beacon. At first, little information was divulged to the other Decepticons until Starscream arrived on Earth himself. In the mean time, Barricade reluctantly showed Create-A-Bot the ropes, and later put him in charge of the other Decepticons. After a long search through the Middle East, the Decepticons began having their suspicions that the lost Decepticon was in fact [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], who Create-A-Bot dismissed as a relic.

After the other Decepticons left Create-A-Bot to his own devices, Starscream finally arrived on Earth, personally greeting Create-A-Bot by nearly landing on him. Finally explaining his motives (in his own ass-backwards Starscream way) he lied through his teeth saying that releasing Megatron would cause the downfall of the Decepticons, and that the [[AllSpark]] was actually on Earth (which it was). He then explained (lying again this time) that he simply wanted the AllSpark to prevent a power struggle as he would need his full attention on preventing Megatron's revival.

That didn't work.

Once Starscream got a hold of the AllSpark, Create-A-Bot had already helped to liberate Megatron from his icy tomb and led him back to Tranquility, where the Decepticon tyrant and his NEW second-in-command would face off against the traitorous jetfighter. Starscream used the power of the AllSpark to power himself up to new levels (ignoring the precedent of over-powered Starscreams from inexplicably causing their own downfall) and attacking his former boss.

That didn't work either.

Outwitting the empowered Starscream, Create-A-Bot stole the AllSpark from him and smashed him in the chest, weakening him enough to have his [[Spark]] extinguished by Megatron. Create-A-Bot would die on that spot, the backlash from the AllSpark overpowering his circuits, but he died a warrior and a true Decepticon.

That didn't go over too well.

Megatron returned after Starscream's defeat only to watch and laugh as Create-A-Bot slowly died. As the young Decepticon pleaded to be repaired, Megatron would only say that his weakness was his downfall, and that all of the Decepticons who fell in battle were worthless pawns to be stripped away like rust. Create-A-Bot then watched in horror as Megatron lept at him, tearing him apart.
{{-}}

==Alt-Modes==
'''Cars'''
<center>
:{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=10
| Beater
| Sportster
| [[Swindle (Movie)|Notchback]]
| Import
| Pickup Car
| Love Cruiser
| Stunt Car
|-
| Lightning Rider
| Tricked Out Car
| Racer
| Raider
| Speedster
| Hot Rodder
| Scout
|}
</center>

'''Trucks'''
<center>
:{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=10
| SUV
| [[Payload (Movie)|Armored Truck]]
| Peace Van
| [[Dropkick |Pickup]]
| Utility
| Moving Truck
| School Bus
| Flame Truck
|-
| Ice Cream Truck
| Death Truck
| Funky Bus
| Construction
| Prison Bus
| Off-Roader
| Safari Truck
| SWAT van
|}
</center>

'''Aircraft'''

<center>
:{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=10
| Chopper
| Attack Copter
| Recon Chopper
| Police Copter
| News Copter
| Stealth Chopper
| [[Generation 1]] [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]
|}
</center>

==Trivia==
* Just like his heroic counterpart, Create-A-Bot can adapt into numerous forms that can change his status, but several of his forms cannot be accessed in the game, but can be obtained by WiFi points by playing ''Battle for the AllSpark''.

{{charstub}}
[[Category: Decepticons]]
[[Category: Movie characters]]
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Transformers (2007 toyline)

2007-08-09T00:54:19Z

86.147.171.86: /* Wave 1 */

Remarkably, the producers of the small independent [[Transformers (2007)|Transformers film]] opening in July 2007 have obtained part of their financing by selling the ''merchandising'' rights for the movie.

==Toyline==

====Preview Figures (Movie Deluxe class)====
*Protoform [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]
*Protoform [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]

===Action Figures ("main" line)===
====Wave 1====
'''Movie Deluxe'''
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]
*[[Jazz (Movie)|Autobot Jazz]]
*[[Brawl (Movie)|Decepticon Brawl]]
*[[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] (includes small figure of [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]])
*[[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]]
*[[Wreckage (Movie)|Wreckage]] (a non-Movie character, though some designs were made at some point in production)
*[[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]]
*[[Swindle (Movie)|Swindle]] (a non-Movie character, appears in the Movie Game & prequel comics)

'''Movie Voyager'''
*[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]
*[[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] (includes non-transforming [[Scale|scaled-down]] figurine of [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]])
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Autobot Ratchet]]
*[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]

'''Movie Leader'''
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]

====Wave 2====

'''Movie Deluxe'''
*[[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]]
*[[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]]
*[[Dropkick]]
*[[Longarm (Movie)|Longarm]]
*[[Payload (Movie)|Payload]]
*Jazz (Final Battle)
*Bumblebee (New Camaro)

'''Movie Voyager'''
*Optimus Prime
*Rescue Ratchet
*[[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]]
*Megatron

'''Movie Leader'''

*Brawl

====Other Action Figures====
'''Movie [[Real Gear Robots]]'''
*[[Speed Dial 800]] (Mobile Phone)
*[[Longview]] (Binoculars)
*[[Spy Shot 6]] (Digital Camera)
*[[Power Up VT6]] (Portable Video Game Player)
*[[Booster X10]] (MP3 Player)
*[[Zoom Out 25X]] (Digital Video Camera)
*[[Meantime]] (Digital Watch)
*[[High Score 100]] (Game Console Controller)
*[[Wire Tap V20]] (Mobile Phone)
*[[Night Beat 7]] (MP3 Player)

'''Movie Legends'''
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]
*[[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]]
*[[Jazz (Movie)|Autobot Jazz]]
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Autobot Ratchet]]

===Fast Transformers Fun===
'''Cyber Stompin' Robots'''
(non-transforming)
*Cyber Stompin' [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]
*Cyber Stompin' [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]

'''Cyber Slammers'''
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]
*[[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]]

'''Fast Action Battlers'''
*Cannon Blast [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]
*Battle Blade [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]
*Power Hook [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]
*Ion Blast [[Jazz (Movie)|Autobot Jazz]]

'''Role Play'''
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] Voice Changer (helmet)
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] Battle Rig Blaster
*[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] Barrel Roll Blaster
*Transformers Water Shooter

===Plain Transformers Fun===
'''Mr Potato Head Transformers'''
*[[Optimash Prime]]

'''Plush Transformers'''
*[[Optimus Prime (G1) toys|Softimus Prime]] ([[G1]]-style Prime, soft toy transforms by turning inside out, using velcro)
*[[Bumblebee (G1)|Slumblebee]] (ditto, for G1-styled Bumblebee)

'''Robot Heroes'''
(2-inch non-transforming cutified figurines similar to Star Wars Galactic Heroes et al. [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|G1 cartoon]] characters in Movie packaging)
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] vs. [[Ravage]]
*[[Hot Rod|Rodimus]] vs. [[Shrapnel (G1)|Insecticon]] (Actually Hot Rod vs. Shrapnel)
*[[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] vs. [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]
*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] vs. [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]
*[[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] vs. [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]

===Collector===
'''Unleashed'''
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]

'''Movie Titanium'''
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]
*[[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]]

==Merchandise==
* [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=123245 Exhaustive Transformers 2007 merchandise list, maintained by AMS.]

==Trivia==
*As of the Movie toyline, the "Ultra" pricepoint has been abolished. Whether this will continue to be the case for future lines remains to be seen, although Hasbro has stated a possible return to this pricepoint with Classics 2.0.

[[Category: Movie]]
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Cheetor (BW)

2007-03-05T18:19:09Z

86.147.171.155:

{{Template:Disambig2|the Beast Wars Maximal|the Unicron Trilogy Autobot|Cheetor (Armada)}}
:''Cheetor is a [[Maximal]] in the [[Beast Era]] portion of the [[Generation 1]] continuity family.''

[[Image:Cheetorbw.jpg|right|thumb|250px|I am NOT Bumblebee!]]

'''Cheetor''' is full of youthful overconfidence. He's also the fastest Maximal on four legs, though, so he gets into way too much trouble. Thankfully, [[Optimus Primal]] keeps a steady eye on him. In return, Cheetor has grown to idolize Primal, whom he calls "Big Bot." Optimus Primal knows the young and inexperienced Cheetor needs a good role model, so he doesn't mind too much. And, hey, he's a good kid. Just... keep him away from [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]], okay? Impressionable minds, and all.

Speaking of bad influences, Cheetor had a brief crush on the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] turncoat [[Blackarachnia]], adding some real tension between him and [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)|Silverbolt]]. He seems over her now.

:''Japanese name:'' '''Cheetas''' 
:''Spanish name:'' '''Chitor''' 
:''Italian name:'' '''Ghepard''' 
:''French name:'' '''Vélocitor'''

==Fiction==
===Animated continuity===
====''Timelines: Dawn of Future's Past''====

====''Beast Wars''====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Ian Corlett]] (US), [[Wataru Takagi]] (Japan)
[[Image:Cheetorbeast1.jpg|left|thumb|170px|What? Is it my breath?]]

After the [[Axalon]] crash-lands on the mysterious planet, the youthful crewmember of the disabled ship chooses a cheetah as his new beast form. Impressed with his own appearance, the young 'bot renames himself Cheetor.

Far too frequently, Cheetor looks up to Optimus Primal enough to rush out in an all-too eager attempt to prove himself. He's foiled an equal amount of missions he's succeeded; he's broken experimental communicators, rushed into combat, gotten himself trapped, and (the current pinnacle of his performance) set up radio-wave towers in the middle of a lightning storm on an energon platform.

When the [[quantum surge]] from the explosion of the [[Planet Buster]] engulfed the planet, Cheetor's exostructure was mutated into a shiny new [[Transmetal]] body. Along with a tougher metal hide and built-in weaponry, his beast mode gained the ability to fly via two powerful thrusters in his body. Unfortunately, his first attempt at flying led him on a one-way trip into a bulkhead. As Rattrap later remarked after a disasterous rescue attempt, a few flying lessons wouldn't hurt. {{Storylink|Aftermath}}

[[Image:TM2Cheetorfly.jpg|right|thumb|170px|Ultra gear!]]

While supporting [[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge's]] attack on Megatron's perverse cloning experiments, Cheetor came in contact with the direct energy beam of the [[transmetal driver]], causing a massive explosion that made his fellow Maximals believe he was dead. However, he was seriously damaged and wandered around for megacycles afterwards, not knowing where he was, before he finally stumbled back to base.

Refusing treatment in the CR chamber, was prone to hallucinations, panic attacks, paranoia, and delerium. He escaped the base, and for hours at a time, he would rest, only to find himself somewhere foreign, his gears exhausted. {{Storylink|Feral Scream, Part 1}}

[[Image:Cheetort2.JPG|left|thumb|200px|Rawr.]]

In reality, his Transmetal body was in conflict of the alien "Transmetal 2" power. He would undergo a mutation into an feral beast that acted with savagery and agreession. With Optimus Primal's help, he finally gained control of the power, and he rejoined the rest of the Maximals, who were surprised at the rapid changes to him. {{Storylink|Feral Scream, Part 2}}

This 'new' Cheetor regularly lost his temper, particularly with Rattrap. Still, he was considerably less reckless, and all of his descisons seemed to have a casual air of confidence and a youthful belief of invincibility.

"Oh, joy," Rattrap remarked. "Cyber-puberty."
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[[Image:Cheetor-precog.jpg|thumb|'''Dreams out of Joint?''' He sees Rattrap's rescue attempt, before it happens.]]

''Cheetor's surreal dream sequences sometimes contained hints of future events.''
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====3H ''Tales of the Beast Wars'' comics====

====''Beast Wars Metals'' manga====

[[Image:CheetasManga1.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Off to go train with Piccolo or something, I'm sure.]]

''(Note: although it picks up after the first season, the Beast Wars Metals manga is '''not''' in-continuity with the television series.)''

Cheetor retained his youthful, inexperienced personality through-out the Japanese interpretation of Beast Wars. For the Beast Wars Metals manga his character design was retooled for a more visually-blunt interpretation of his personality.
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====IDW ''Beast Wars'' comics====

====Beast Machines====
Voice actor: [[Ian Corlett]] (US), [[Wataru Takagi]] (Japan)

During [[Beast Machines]], the maturity Cheetor had engagued in when he gained a Transmetal 2 body seemed to come full circle. He acted calmer, frequently took over leadership in place of Optimus Primal, and overall acted more 'adult'. (The role of 'kid' was taken over by [[Nightscream]].)

After Optimus Primal and Megatron fell into the organic core, starting the Cybertron-wide reformatting, the Oracle spoke to Cheetor's mind, possibly suggesting that Optimus Primal passed his communication abilities to Cheetor as he died.

====3H ''Universe'' comic====

====Fun Publications ''Cybertron'' comic====

===''Legends'' anthology===

==Toys==
===Beast Wars===
[[Image:BWRConcept01.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Cheetor's control art. Yes, that IS Cheetor, not Shadow Panther. Yes, it's not a cheetah.]]
*'''Cheetor''' (Deluxe, 1996)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-3'''

: Cheetor transforms into an organic big cat-like creature somewhat resembling a cheetah. As such, he is yellow and covered in spots. In robot mode, he is armed with a rifle made out of his hind quarters and his tail, along with a second 'gut gun' formed out of his stomach. As with most early ''Beast Wars'' toys, he features a 'mutant' battle mask that covered his face.

:This mold was repainted into [[Ravage|Shadow Panther]] and [[Tigatron]].

*'''Cheetor (Transmetal)''' (Deluxe, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-42'''

: Transmetal Cheetor is the first mostly robotic Cheetor toy. As with most Transmetal 1 toys, his beast mode is entirely robotic, but his robot mode has organic elements in its design. In beast mode, two rocket boosters can be flipped out of the sides of the cat torso to create a 'flight mode'. In robot mode, his removable tail becomes a spiked whip, but he has no ranged weaponry.

:This mold was retooled into [[Ravage|Jaguar X-9]], and slightly retooled to make ''[[Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' [[Cheetor (Armada)|Cheetor]].

*'''Cheetor (Transmetal 2)''' (Deluxe, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-49'''

: Transmetal 2 Cheetor is the first major departure from the usual Cheetor styling, but maintains the standard 'stand-up-cat' style transformation where the robot mode is essentially the beast mode standing on its hind legs. TM2 Cheetor transforms into a saber-toothed tiger-type big cat, with a large rocket engine grafted into his back. In robot mode, this rocket engine becomes a spring-loaded missile launcher.

: As with all Transmetal 2 toys, he features a [[spark]] crystal, a small clear-coloured ball with a vacuum-metalized faction logo inside. Cheetor's spark is placed on his left hind leg.

:This mold was later redecoed into [[Tripredacus Agent]].

*'''Cheetor (Fox Kids)''' (Deluxe, 1999)

*'''Cheetor (Fox Kids Transmetal)''' (Deluxe, 1999)

*'''Cheetor (10th Anniversary)''' (Deluxe, 2006)
[[Image:BW10Cheetor_toy.jpg|right|thumb|Not completely [[show-accuracy|show-accurate]]]]

: In 2006, Hasbro redecoed the original Cheetor toy for their ''Beast Wars 10th Anniversary'' reissue line. He was cast in a different shade of yellow, and unlike most of the other BWX toys, he was further off-model than his earlier toy (the newer toy lacks the gold paint on its forearms and feet, all of which is present on the show model). His right beast mode shoulder was tampographed with a Maximal sigil. He came packed with Build-a-Figure [[Transmutate]]'s torso, and a DVD disc containing the episode "Equal Measures."

===Beast Machines===
*'''Cheetor''' (Mega, 2000)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''BR-02'''

*'''Cheetor''' (Supreme, 2000)

*'''Cheetor''' (McDonald's Happy Meal, 2000)

*'''Night Slash Cheetor''' (Deluxe, 2001)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''BR-16'''

===Universe===
*'''Night Slash Cheetor''' (Deluxe, 2005)

===Timelines===
*'''Cheetor''' (Multi-pack, 2006)

===Titanium===
*'''Cheetor''' (2007)

==Trivia==
*Mainframe's original plan for TM1 Cheetor was to have his face mature over the course of the season, from a big-eared, wide-eyed, rounded face into one close to the toy. Also, TM1 Cheetor would have had a "Hero's Heart" which glowed after completing brave or heroic feats, somewhat akin to the classic anime character "Astro Boy". Due to time and financial restrictions, none of these concepts panned out. Thankfully.

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1996/Maximal/Cheetor/cheetor.htm Cheetor at TFU.info]

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