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86.169.14.246: /* Nunchakus */

Will you please stop? You've been going in the same fucking circle for what, hours? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:43, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

==Daniel Ross at Botcon 2007==
I'll see your "Attendee", and raise you "Special Guest" with evidence straight from the official Botcon Archives themselves, lol. I confirmed this within the past hour with Mr. Ross via Facebook. Here's the Link to the archived "Special Guest" listing for Botcon 2007. [http://www.botcon.com/botcon07/guest07.cfm]

==Movie Jolt vs Movie Jolt==
Sorry if the post about Jolt not being confused with the previously released Jolt wasn't a good one... Just thought it was sort of a unique case that should be addressed, what with there being two movie Jolts, and unlike the 2007 one which didn't appear in any movies and has since been changed to a different character, also not appearing in the movies, the new Jolt is in the movie. I know that's what disambiguation is for, but I just thought it was an interesting bit of trivia that a movie character's name was already used in the movieverse, though for a different character. (not including the whole movie Arcee thing) -Cliffjumper Prime

==Megatron joke==
The monsters in MMPR always started out human-sized. Then, at some point, Rita throws her staff down from the Moon shouting "Make my monster grow!". The staff lands in the ground and energy shoots out of it, making the monster enormous. The laser effects around Megatron's cannon in that picture look a lot like the staff. Here is a YouTube clip of it: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUelB-OSneY]. Honestly, it's not a big deal to me, but the old joke doesn't really make any sense in the first place. It seems to be a premature ejaculation joke to go along with his cannon firing, but it's not like there's anybody else in the picture for the innuendo to be complete. I think the observation our anonymous editor made about the resemblance to the staff is actually pretty clever. A rare instance of somebody changing a joke for the better, IMO. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 16:20, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
:Huzzah! I have a talk page now! Anyway, thanks for clearing it up... I didn't get the ressemblance of Bandora's staff to the laser blast effects of Megatron's cannons... At least I understood the previous joke, wasn't all that funny but it made sense without the explanation. -[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:54, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

== Revert Revert ==

Slaggit! This is like, the fourth time this has happened to me. I SPECIFICALLY checked with a preview when I was about to make the reversion, and it did NOT tell me any edits had been made since I'd started mine. Apologies for the confusion and annoyance, but I am definitely not doing this on purpose...--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 23:39, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:No worries. I know it wasn't your fault. I'm pretty sure this happened to me at least once as well. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:11, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks. That actually makes me feel a lot better about it.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:23, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

==Treatment==
Hey, it's not uploaded anywhere anymore (but Don Murphy has no issues with us handing it around). I can send you the PDF, but I need your email. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 22:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

==Nunchakus==
His name is "Michelangelo". :) --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 14:38, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
:My bad. Haven't watched TMNT since the original toon. And I was never into Renaissance art or whatever era the artist namesake was from. And I Like men. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:28, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Airazor caption ==

Hi. I was wondering what was wrong with the old caption for the Airazor photo.
:Essentially, there's nothing wrong with the toy so criticizing it like that is pointless. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 08:29, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
::Okay. I didn't think the caption was meant as a criticism of the toy. I thought it was meant to point out that though she was designed as a female figure, she didn't really turn out looking any more female than any other Transformer (excluding Arcee and Thunderblast). But humor is subjective, and what I find somewhat funny might not seem funny at all to someone else.
:::Airazor was designed as a male figure. The toy/character only became female on the insistence of the show writers. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 09:15, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
::::We're talking about the caption for the Transmetal figure. I thought that one was designed from the start to be female.
:::::... oh! Did not realize. Sorry. Ignore me. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 09:51, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

== Blurr ==

He is known to be a member, which should be enough, but he is also known to appear again later in the season, both through the footage from Dubai and the teasers released on the blog. That's why I said that I believed that it ws exception enough if he wasn't a member, it wouldn't need to be moved, but both together seem to be compelling enough.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 16:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:Look at your talk page, anything Dubai-related ''should not'' be discussed here in any capacity. We are not gloryhounds like Seibertron trying to be the first ones to announce every single giant spoiler of every single piece of media. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:49, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
::That's great, but that's not what I am trying to say. He was announced as a character a while ago, before Dubai, and on one of the creator blogs. He's known to be in the Elite Guard, and we even know who his American voice actor is. We've even had him make his first appearance. Dubai just confirmed an episode he reappears in. That's all I'm trying to say - that we know he's in the guard, and we have confirmation from various sources of a future appearance. Hell, that we've listed his voice actor should be confirmation enough.
::And I didn't make the edit to spread spoilers - I did it to add info to a wiki, when the info is confirmed. Yes, we should not be obsessed with news, but neither should we put blinders on and wait until info is months or years old. (Hyperbole, but you get my point)[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 22:05, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

== Rabbicrater Edits ==

Just FYI, the edits HooperX made were capitalizing on the fact that Rabbicrater looks like his name contains the word "rabbi", when in fact it's meant to be most of the word "rabbit". The caption gag of "L'chaim" thus becomes more obvious, though I like the current one better. As for the miscellaneous trivia, I think it's an attempt at a callback to one of the final scenes from the Mel Brooks film ''History of the World, Part 1''. So not TOTAL nonsense.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 14:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:Oh, well I don't know much about Judaism so "L'chaim" is kind of flying over my head right now (and I believe even if explained, the Yaoi Kiss Players joke will still be funnier)... And the misc trivia, well History Of The World Part 1 is one of the Mel Brooks films I have not yet had the pleasure of watching... Even then, it's kind of out of place in the same paragraph as the info about the rabbit on the moon... if Hooper wants to bring it back I would suggest he add another asterisk paragraph to point it out... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:11, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
::Long story short, a robot with the word "Rabbi" in his name, even if it actually has to do with "rabbit" is ripe for Judaism gags. "L'Chaim!" is a traditional exclamation of celebration. Originally, I was just gonna put the lyrics to Hava Nagila up there, but hey. The Kiss Players thing I had to stop and stare at - the two dudes humping are kind of cut out of the frame. But hey, whatever. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 15:15, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:::FWIW, "L'chaim" is a traditional Hebrew version of "Cheers!" and literally means "To life!" I'm up for ethnic humor as much as the <s>next</s> previous guy, but I still find the KP gag funnier in this case. The thought of "Hava Negila" lyrics as a caption does make me grin, though...--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== Real Gear hairdryer ==

Good you took that out for now, I was just too exited to post a unreleased toy for the Movie line, so I did not stop to check if it was real or not. I'm currently looking for more info on it and will put that back up once I found proof.
By the way, what do the read minus numbers next to your edit mean?[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 12:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
-Edit, I fell for a joke! it was just a joke to take the piss of the US toy gun law.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 19:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
:Number of characters (letters and spaces) added or removed from the total article length by this edit. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:45, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
::....what? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:24, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

== Hi ==

I'm listening and I'm sorry [[User:Gyro-Robo|Gyro-Robo]] 22:43, 8 June 2008

== Mayhem Suppression Squad‎ ==

Hello ^^ I removed the [[:Category: Shattered Glass characters]] from the [[Mayhem Suppression Squad‎]] members because [[:Category:Mayhem Suppression Squad‎]] is already under [[:Category: Shattered Glass characters]]. Just like [[Killbison]] only under [[:Category:Breastforce]] which is contained by Combiners, Decepticons, and Victory characters. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 00:49, 22 April 2009 (EDT)

== 1989 Character Models ==
Howdy! I saw the Bumblebee & Jazz pretender models. Do you happen to have higher resolution versions of these images that you'd be willing to share with me? Do you have any more images from this era? (The Ark III needs your help!) --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 21:04, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

== Drift ==

Fine, have it your way! This site could be something awesome for everybody, yet guys like you persist in making it a refuge for your snide insults and negativity. --[[User:Hutch|Hutch]] 03:47, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:If it helps... even some of us here think Detour takes the AHM-bashing to ridiculous extremes. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 04:23, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
::Except a lot of what he yanked out was stuff not even written by me. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:25, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Some of us are OK with desnarking the overly-snarked articles. Thankfully Rosicrucian just redid the removal. :P --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 04:29, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
::::No, he yanked different parts, and rewrote another. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:33, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
Man, just let it go. We're trying to make the trivia sections ''smaller'', y'know.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:00, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

No! Much, much bigger! I'm good with keeping the Poochie theme for SL: Drift's page, but we really, really gotta get a reference to Rurouni Kenshin on a Drift image somewhere down the line! I can't imagine McCarthy not having Kenshin in some corner of his mind when he was creating Drift. "Oh man, he'll be an ex-assassin, with a dark past he regrets, and he carries a special sword! AWESOME!" --[[User:Nu-Priest|Nu-Priest]] 16:20, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

==Vandalism?==
Thanks for fixing my page, I appreciate it. Apparently Mr. Anon didn't take too kindly from me having to up and leave his little "discussion". People gotta go do other things besides argue with somebody on the other side of the computer all day. So do you know how severe punishment is for vandalizing someone's User Page?---[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 22:15, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:In this case, I'm inclined to believe it was a simple accident. The guy isn't really all that wiki savvy, and may have just clicked on your sig and thought it was your talkpage. He's... well, I don't hold any illusions he's going to be a productive user here, but he's on a dynamic IP and isn't outright harmful so I'm not sure what a block would accomplish.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:17, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
::True, I didn't take that into account. I tend to jump to the vandalism claim (or any claim honestly) a little too gung-ho sometimes, and this is one of those times.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 22:27, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:::S'okay. I mean, I'd be lying if I said my cursor didn't hover over the block button on him while I thought about it. Trouble is his two IPs so far don't even seem to share a common subnet, so even an IP range ban wouldn't be viable. If he becomes genuinely abusive lemme know and I'd be happy to play whack-a-mole with his IPs.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:31, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

Sorry, I'm new here. Won't happen again, trust me.--[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 20:59, 12 June 2009 (EDT)

*Z-z-zay, is it no vandalism to undo the another's additionz-z-z-z without any explanation? What's wrong with z-z-z-z-them?--[[User:He-l-en1959|Waz-z-z-zpinator59]] 01:11, 1 December 2009 (EST)
:They didn't make any sense. You should stick to adding to the synopsis/etc. because your English seems to slip right down to nonsensical when you do captions. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 01:47, 1 December 2009 (EST)

==Barricade ROTF DS game==
Why instand of deleting it why dont you fix all my misspelling i have the game and all barricade parts are true.--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
:So... the burden is on ''us'' to fix what you write?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:07, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
:Because neither I nor anyone else on the wiki is your personal spellchecker. If you want your edits to stick, put some effort into it and that includes using proper English. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:07, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

== Ze little one ==

"The identity of ze little one is a bit on the fraught side. In the flyover shot of the barge on which the four Constructicons sit, a red bulldozer (Rampage), a concrete mixer (Mixmaster), a dump truck (Long Haul) and a yellow front-end loader are visible. The yellow front-end loader is the alternate mode of the Constructicon Scrapper, and ze little one's robot mode appears to be the same as Scrapper's. As such, the temptation to just consider this a Scrapper unit is great... except that, after the flyover shot, the yellow loader disappears, and is replaced with a yellow Volvo excavator, clearly marked with a large Decepticon insignia. For the purposes of reducing headaches, we're assuming that the excavator is the "correct" vehicle mode, and that it just happens to transform into a robot mode that resembles Scrapper...even though it's not him. "

I wasn't aware of the decision that had reached on the "Ze little one" page, so I didn't realize that this was the reasoning being used. I can agree with this, and I'm sorry the discussion got so hostile. Have a great week.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 00:30, 16 July 2009 (EDT)

== SG Ark & SG Nemesis ==

I'd just have Derik's bot fix those links along with the rest. I only fixed the others because there was about 2-3 links each instead of the 60+ for those two pages. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 16:32, 6 August 2009 (EDT)

==Thanks for giving me my username==

Seriously best alias ever [[User:Potty Mouth Anon|Potty Mouth Anon]] 01:55, 21 August 2009 (EDT)

== TFA: S.P.'s amnesia ==

You completely sure about that? Seemed like a kind of joke to me - Wasp going through this whole list of humiliation and Sentinel denying it while keeping a straight face.
EDIT: sorry for double posting, my browser's acting a little strange [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 13:26, 25 August 2009 (EDT)
:Except Sentinel finishes the scene by saying "Wait a minute, that was you?" He genuinely doesn't remember, only recalling it then and there. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 13:27, 25 August 2009 (EDT)
::Oookay, my bad. Seems like his ego is powerful enough to erase memories of minor, non-significant beings like Wasp, Bee or Bulky... [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 13:45, 25 August 2009 (EDT)

==Deaths of Optimus Prime "fanon"==
That... wasn't fanon. It was more awkwardly phrased, but consistent with how it was portrayed in the episode. Aerialbots even say, to my recollection, that there are "others at the hanger." Elita-1 was rebuilt. Dion wasn't mentioned. What part of that is fanon, and why did that give you the right to allcaps that dude into submission for it? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:17, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
:Well it explicitly said in the anon guy's contribution way back there that "Ariel and Dion were also rebuilt" (followed by an awkward parenthesis saying Ariel at least). Plus, the episode itself is awkwardly phrased... Slingshot says "There are others back at the hangar, his girlfriend Ariel" as though he actually meant to say "there's another one back at the hangar, his girlfriend Ariel". After Orion is rebuilt as Prime, there's no concern for any "others" and they only speak of Ariel, whom Alpha Trion says he'll "send droids out for". No mention at all that he'd rebuild other casualties of the hangar massacre. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:32, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
::Another interpretation: Slingshot says "There are others back at the hangar, [for example] his girlfriend Ariel." Otherwise, he's not being correct when he says there are "otherS" there. Plural. I'm not saying that Alpha Trion rebuilt anybody other than Prime and Elita, or that we have any evidence thereof. I'm saying what the guy wrote, in that particular revision, was technically correct. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:50, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
:::The ''best'' kind of correct. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:06, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

== the Peter Cullen photo. ==

I know the person who is in that picture. I thought it would be fun depicting him being the nice guy that he is. If you want me to identify where I got the image from, I can link you right to the source. [[User:Unicron|Unicron]] 02:59, 12 October 2009 (EDT)

== editing ==

sorry about the starscream page, but did you really have to edit out '''''everything''''' I did? [[User:Masterman555|Masterman555]] 22:54, 21 October 2009 (EDT)
:Well, yeah. You screwed up the formatting and the order of figures in the toy section, messed with captions and changed all the thumbnails to ungodly huge sizes. It's pretty standard procedure to undo that. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:14, 21 October 2009 (EDT)

== Robot Heroes Thrust eyes==
Thank you for correcting that, I just took an even closer look to the toy and realized I had made a mistake.[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 22:39, 12 November 2009 (EST)

== IDW ==

Oh come on, dude. We can take the piss out of IDW sometimes, but that last edit was a bit much.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:43, 12 November 2009 (EST)
:Not even my words there. But like a lot have said... Continuum is pretty much the straw that broke the camel's back. And really, their own page needs a dose of piss-taking-out too, no matter how slight. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:46, 12 November 2009 (EST)
What Rosi said. No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:52, 12 November 2009 (EST)

==British English spellings==
Please read [[Help:Style_guide#National_varieties_of_English]], it mentions guidelines to spelling that may help you. As Club material is published by a company based in Texas, I went with the American English. Keep British English spelling in the UK articles. [[Special:Contributions/68.61.240.172|68.61.240.172]] 10:06, 21 November 2009 (EST)

==Captions==
Detour, He-l-en has been contributing to the Armada episode articles in a generally positive manner. Please stop reverting her caption changes. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 05:27, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:Positive, yes, but thus far little more than minor summary changes in Armada... followed by large doses of captioning. I'll lay off since you asked me. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:01, 29 November 2009 (EST) (I can still change his captions to different ones if I come up with better ones, though, right?)
::I am trying to handle the situation in a delicate manner; He-l-en is both a new user and someone whose first language is not English, so we cannot immediately expect her to know every facet of our policy right away. Reverting a person's edits without telling them why is not a good way to grow new users. I'm just trying to be courteous. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 06:15, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:::Well, it's not like we don't always revert people who aren't doing anything but changing captions. He-l-en is at least also contributing a little bit of info, but we still generally tell people to leave the captions alone when they're new and just worry about adding actual info to the articles. (And it's not like we don't have plenty of Help guides available to read, either...) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 06:20, 29 November 2009 (EST)
::::''We'' know we change people's captions back, yes, but I am inclined to be more lenient to someone who has only been around for two days... hrm. Actually, I am inspired. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 06:57, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:::::His English seems to have landslided down to "nonsensical" once he started editing captions... Can I revert those, at least? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:59, 29 November 2009 (EST)

== Sideways Part-swapping pics ==

Detour-
I do have pics of the part-swapped Sideways, however I am not sure how to upload them to the Wiki and add them to the page. If you'd like, I can e-mail them to you if you PM Ultrawave over at TFW2005 (that is my account). Unless there is another way to upload them that I am not aware of? [[Special:Contributions/131.191.68.29|131.191.68.29]] 04:20, 7 December 2009 (EST)

Made a Photobucket and uploaded my pic to satisfy your curiousity-- [http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af279/Blitzgear/DSCN0897.jpg] =)[[Special:Contributions/131.191.68.29|131.191.68.29]] 18:44, 7 December 2009 (EST)

== Sari Edit ==
why did you edit my addition to the page? what i typed was factual. --[[User:0utrun|0utrun]] 23:16, 30 December 2009 (EST)

== Blackarachnia "hit it with a shovel" joke ==

Why do you deem it so important to take the joke out? It works, it fills an empty caption space, so why? Seriously, Why? --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 02:09, 6 January 2010 (EST)

== Lockdown's position as a bounty hunter. ==

This isn't something like revealing the gimmicks to a toy or an electronic voice, or even a street date. It's no secret that the ROTF figure is based off a "bounty hunter", you've seen the card say he's a "bounty hunter" regardless if it isn't officially released, is the addition of a category "Bounty Hunter" seriously enough to get you this unnecessarily riled up? It's not like I'm saying something like he's an Autobot sympathizer or something. --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 02:20, 6 January 2010 (EST)

==Captions==
No one appointed '''you''' the master of captioning. You're acting like a goddamn jackboot, so take a time-out. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 02:59, 6 January 2010 (EST)

==My Grammar==
Well i going to tell you why i have bad grammar, i have good grammar BUT i type so freaking Fast in result i make typos, Aslo there some words that i cant spell, aslo i try to slow down but then i start to write fast again -Eagc7
: Then either slow down enough so you can write competently, or don't write at all so we don't spend so much time cleaning up your amazingly-sized mess. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:38, 29 January 2010 (EST)

== Why did you remove my edit? ==

The article discusses fanfiction, so I named two common pairings as an example. It seemed relevant. [[User:CH|CH]] 16:25, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:Because the fandom is so large, fragmented and clique-esque that there's really no way to measure what's relevant/common unless it's completely widespread, as in to the point that even average fans that don't read fanfic are familiar with the concepts used. Megatron/Starscream pairings probably predate Beast Wars itself, Starscream/Alexis was a freakin' epidemic for a time. Those are somewhat "worthy" of mention (in a squicky infamous way). Prime/Mikaela and Bumblebee/Sam, however? Although I'm not shocked they exist, I don't believe the average fans would know for certain that they do. And it isn't really quite as notable (again, Starscream/Alexis being an epidemic), no more than hypothetical pairings like Cheetor/Una or Sky-Byte/Koji.. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:37, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::''Friend of Autobots''
::''Sometimes he talks to me too''
::''My spark fills with joy'' --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:18, 8 February 2010 (EST)

== Right..... ==

[http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Beast_Machines_(cartoon)&curid=15&diff=430695&oldid=430694 What was that weird edit summary all about?] --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:56, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:Look at your keyboard, and look at each letter to the left of the letter I typed. :p --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 08:12, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::It seems we use very different keyboards. All I'm getting is gibberish. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 09:32, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:::It says "something's wrong with my eyes," okay? Big hairy deal. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:38, 27 February 2010 (EST)

== Double dash template ==
Works just 100% fine on Opera and in Firefox and in IE7, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about. The whole purpose it was created was to clear things without creating gaps above the headers. So stop changing it every time I fix the formatting, as you're driving me insane and I'm going to start reverting you every time you do it. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 20:48, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:Well it doesn't work on me in neither IE nor Firefox. So clearly the coding for it must be flawed somehow. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:22, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::IIRC, you're one of the folks using IE6, aren't you? That would explain that part, if so. As for Firefox, it works fine on Firefox for me, so I just don't know what you're talking about there. (I also checked IE7 and it works fine there as well...)
::But in any case, bring it up with Derik to fix any problems rather than constantly removing it, considering the whole reason the template exists to begin with is to solve an issue folks used to be griping about. About the only issue I've ever had is that there has to be no line return space between the dash template and the following header, but that's easily tweaked while editing. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:38, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:::Yeah, I'm one of the five people on Earth still using IE6. I like the button layout better, sue me. But I do have Firefox 3.5.6 and <nowiki>{{--}}</nowiki> does the same amount of jack squattage. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:04, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::::You do realize button layouts are easily changed in most browsers, yes? (And I'd think lots of broken sites with missing features would be a bigger annoyance... having to surf using IE6 at one of my jobs last year was downright painful, it's missing so many useful standards.)
::::But, like I said, never had issues with FF at all. And even if there are, again, have Derik tweak the CSS, rather than unfixing the formatting fixes. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:13, 27 February 2010 (EST)

== *sigh* "first edit ever" ==

fact is I've been editing over the years and adding useful tid bits here and there, but the wiki just can't seem to hold a proper account. so I start a new and get treated like a punk. gratitude for ya.

And yeah, the tone really isn't to my liking. Derek J Wyatt puts down Beachcomber and everyone treats it as canon that the character is not well liked. well I like him! And think the article should be more even handed.

So tell me, how am I supposed to get started here? I can't edit "the funny" as I've been told the last time I tried a permanent account, I can't help to rewrite an article, what do you want from me? When to I earn the right to call out the Beach Comber page for being offensive? --[[User:Stly92|Stly92]] 01:15, March 18, 2010 (EST)

== Jim-Bob's Diner is indeed a reference to James Roberts ==

[[Maximum Dinobots issue 2|Jim-Bob's Diner]] is, in fact, a reference to ''Last Stand of the Wreckers'' co-writer [[James Roberts]]. Nick Roche said it himself [http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=161572#161572]. (At first, '''I''' thought--and was '''very sure'''--it was a reference to '''Jim''' Salicrup and '''Bob''' Budiansky.) --[[User:Jeff39042|Jeff39042]] 19:40, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
:Well then that belongs in the Notes... not a confusing random link in the middle of the synopsis. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:06, 11 April 2010 (EDT)

== Last Dutch Issue ==

The IP Anon [[Special:Contributions/195.240.16.74|195.240.16.74]] removed the "last Dutch issue" sentence from "[[The Void! (US)|The Void!]]" because he was shifting it to "[[On the Edge of Extinction!]]" Now, this may require verification (which is why I'm not undoing your reversal yet), but at least it's not a random act of Anon vandalism.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 11:24, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
:Yeah, I reverted it before he did the rest. I don't know who to ask for verification, though. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 11:50, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
::Looks like the anon was actually [[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] not logged in. Good enough to allow now, or do we still need a citation? Sunjumper mentions on his anon-IP talk page (linked in just above, there) where he saw mention of the last-issue status.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 13:13, 10 May 2010 (EDT)
:::If he's Dutch, sure. You're in the better position to make that call anyway. :p --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:41, 10 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Based on his recent contribution to the BW article, I'd say he his. Well and good, then.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 17:18, 10 May 2010 (EDT)

== Anon-made G1 Cast List ==

I'll grant I didn't do more than a rough glance over it, so I can't vouch for its accuracy, but it WAS in keeping with our formatting for other TV series' front pages. Granted, the cast's much larger and so may be too overwhelming a list for the page, but in principle, it wasn't a ''wrong'' idea. Might be worth adding a notice as to why the G1 TV series page would differ in that respect from other series'.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 15:29, 13 May 2010 (EDT)

== Toy Swapping ==

Look, I am sorry to keep adding tat. I just thought it was important to have in the article, because it was under the same idea. And just so you know, this whole website is full of crappy, big, poorly written sections and just want to help improve some facts not added. So you can take that comment and stick it were it belongs. I just tried to add something.

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== Toy Swapping 2 ==

I am sorry for the previous comment made by myself about the edit. I was in a really bad mood and would not tolerate anything. I will stop trying to edit or fix any articles to fix things that people deleted that I made. I do sincerly apologize. People have been quite rude to me on this website and I was starting to get stressed. Not to mention I have major anger manigment issues. I am quite sorry for my comments.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 12:37, 4 June 2010 (EDT)

== Hey. ==

Yo, be quiet bitch. {{unsigned|TheRex4441}}
:Keep it polite, please. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:39, 24 June 2010 (EDT)

== Prime VAs ==

The editor was right about Optimus & Megatron's VAs, he just didn't have the right source. (It was revealed in a recent BotCon panel.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 14:12, 26 June 2010 (EDT)

==edit war==
If this edit war does not stop in five minutes and people don't stop getting aggressive at each other, all three of you are getting a time-out. The note is pretty pointless, at best it would be only on Prime Soundwave's page. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:28, 4 July 2010 (EDT)

==Translation help==
Hey, Detour. Since you speak French, could you help me by correcting any bad translations I have for the French ''Animated'' episode titles [[User:Interrobang/Crap|here]]? Thanks! [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:24, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
:Done. Egads, epic fail on the dub team on translating Five Servos Of Doom. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:06, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
::Thanks! That was one of the titles that threw me off. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:21, 5 July 2010 (EDT)

== Cloaca joke? ==

Was there something wrong with [[Airazor (BW)|it]]? [[Special:Contributions/72.229.51.77|72.229.51.77]] 15:22, 6 July 2010 (EDT)

== Anon reverts==
When a dude changes something, and you change it back, and he changes it back with comment asking why it's changed... it might be better, if you're going to simply revert it again, to at least leave a comment of your own, explaining why? If he's explaining his actions, you owe that same courtesy back, even if he's in the wrong. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:25, 28 July 2010 (EDT)
:You're absolutely right, and I can't for the life of me remember WHY I didn't do just that. It's been hectic in my neck of the woods these past few days, I apologize. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:02, 28 July 2010 (EDT)
::Come to think of it, I think the reason might've been that I meant to leave the explanation on his talk page, but ended up being sidetracked by other things. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:03, 28 July 2010 (EDT)

== Nice caption ==

<nowiki>:</nowiki>D --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:40, 15 August 2010 (EDT)
:Hah, I was just waiting for someone to add a pic of him so I could throw add that caption. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 03:41, 15 August 2010 (EDT)

== Decepticon Drone ==

I am sorry. I thought it looked simmilar, due to the Red T visor, silver and black head, but not the body.

== [[Katsuyuki Konishi]] and [[Frank Miller]] ==

My joke(s) may be weak, but
#I wasn't violating any [[Transformers Wiki:Caption|caption policies]].
#I uploaded the [[Frank Miller]] image. I deserve a caption or something.
#[[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal#Links that overexplain jokes|Explaining the joke is not funny]].
#(Regarding the link I put at the Konishi caption):
:* A straight quote from Gurren Lagann isn't really very funny by itself.
:* Frank Miller isn't someone you'd think to find on TFWiki. I'd like to show people that he does belong here and how nteresting a coincidence it is, that ''both'' sources of the line contributed to TF. I imagine people reading the link would be like: "Oh yeah, there's also that. Wait, this wiki has an article on F. Miller? What has he got to do with TF? Gonna check that."
But really, I'm more upset about your changing of the caption at Frank Miller for reason number 2. [[User:Item42|Item42]] 10:38, 29 September 2010 (EDT)

== Why are you reverting everything? ==

Why the fuck are you reverting every single edit you see? Is that the only thing you can do? Is is your sole mission to not contribute, but revert everyone else who tries to? Sure, you could just change the singe byte of offending material, BUT NO, YOU HAVE TO REVERT THE WHOLE GODDAMN EDIT. You've been doing this for as long as I've been observing. Also, you've been up my ass about everything the whole time I've been here. Haven't you been blocked before for this kind of thing? --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 10:01, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
:Detour spends a lot of time on the wiki so he often sees poor/vandalistic edits before other editor do. Usually his reversions have been supported by the majority of editors, when he goes over the line Walky puts him in his place. My question is, why are you so sensitive? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:37, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
::If you've been up my ass too, you would see that this is the first time I've exploded over seomthing like this. I have been putting up with shit like this since I started editing here. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 10:47, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
:::I don't know, just looking over your previous edits you seemed rather upset about things on the [[Twitcher F451]], [[Derrick J. Wyatt]], [[Starscream (BWII)]] and [[Shelfwarmer]] pages. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:52, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
* WHY ARE YOU REVERTING EVERUTHING???????????????--[[User:He-l-en1959|Waz-z-z-zpinator59]] 10:15, 7 November 2010 (EST)

== Dalek ==

For your information, there is incorrect information on that page, that must be changed. The Daleks were never first called "Mark 3 travel machines" that is wrong. The were first called Daleks. The machine the ride in was first a Mark 1 Travel Machines, then a Mark 2 Travel Machine, and finally a Mark 3 Travel Machine. It was Davros who called the machine they ride in Mark 3 Travel Machine, but the creatures are called Daleks, and they were first called Kaleds before being mutated into Daleks. I don't know were the hell you got that from but they are also not cyborgs. They are creatures inside tanks basically. I was correcting that. Get your facts right before delete something I did. Trust me, I know more about the Daleks then you. Thus, my user name is LORD DALEK. That is why I am constantly changing that page. [[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 15:40, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
:Except all that is irrelevant to what was said about Daleks within ''Transformers fiction'', which is what this Wiki is about. And I know plenty about Daleks. Don't assume you're some sort of lone Doctor Who fan on this wiki.--[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:42, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

Fine, I will stop editing the part that is in the comic, BUT THE INFORMATION IN THE NOTES IS WRONG!!! And I also did not say anything about being "a lone Doctor Who fan" I just was saying you undid my edit that was correcting incorrect statements. [[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 15:52, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
: That thing Detour linked to when he reverted you sure seems to think you're wrong. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::I found two sources that go against what LordDalek is claiming. One is a general science fiction Wiki and the other is the TARDIS Index File, the Doctor Who Wiki (which we link Doctor Who-related articles to). --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:58, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::ARGG! I have proof that what you said was wrong. Look, you right, they weren't called Daleks, nor they were Mark 3 Travel Machines. They were called merely mutants. Read this:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davros|His solution is to remove all emotions pertaining to weakness, a category in which he groups such emotions as compassion, mercy and kindness, and place the mutants in tank-like "Mark III travel machines" partly based on the design of his wheelchair. He later names these creatures Daleks, an anagram of Kaleds.][[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:07, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::: Yyyyeah. You seem to be quoting the fictional history at us, while we're talking about the actual behind-the-scenes history of the characters. The comment you removed will stay. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:11, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::::Actually, from a behind-the-scenes standpoint the name Dalek came first. But Who fiction-wise, it was established in a later serial (Genesis of the Daleks, the Daleks's origin story) that the original name of a Dalek was a Mark III Travel Machine. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_of_the_Daleks "At that moment, Davros enters the laboratory, and demonstrates his new "Mark III travel machine", which he later dubs as a "Dalek"."]. If you want the note to focus less on fiction and more on production, I can always tweak it. But it's still a factual note one way or another. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:25, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
Better yet, read this: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalek_variants|For the most part a Dalek is simply a Dalek.Notable exceptions usually refer to rank, such as "Emperor" and "Supreme Dalek", although in Genesis of the Daleks Davros refers to the newly created Dalek casing as a "Mark 3 Travel Machine".] For the last bloody time, Mark 3 Travel Machines refers to the CASING not the actual creature.
[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:14, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::::Listen ItsWalky, when the Daleks first appeared in 1963 THEY WERE CALLED DALEKS. Davros is part of the fictional history, and the real creator of the Daleks was Terry Nation, and he called them Daleks. There. I now have fictional and behind the scenes evidence. The comment must be removed.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:29, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::Why would you ''ever'' want to err on the side of ''removing'' information rather than clarifying it? When is less information better?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 18:15, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

== This place is worse than Nazi Germany ==

SIEG HEIL, DON'T FUCK WITH THE LITTLE TRANSFORMER WIKIPEDIA. WE ONLY LIKE SOME POINTLESS ADDITIONS, NOT A LOT.

Fucking hypocrites. You included, Spanish twit.--[[User:Tommy-Vercetti|Tommy-Vercetti]] 18:13, 8 November 2010 (EST)
:Please mind your language. And this kind of tantrum-throwing won't exactly have people joining your side in the argument. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:18, 8 November 2010 (EST)

== Fanmodes ==

I got the impression, per the "Fan-configurations of toys" discussion in the community portal, that we ''don't'' avoid fan modes, that brief mention of such is okay. [[User:JW|JW]] 11:58, 19 November 2010 (EST)

== Koiter brothers ==

Thanks for catching that spelling error I missed on their names! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:36, 21 November 2010 (EST)

== Grimstone ==

Grimstone's drones' Mini-Con compatibilities are '''not''' mentionned on their own page.

== Ahem ==

Why did you revert my talk page edit regarding the doctor who connection on Talk:Death's Head?
NVM I see, I screwed it up.

== Emperor of Terror Scorponok ==

What's wrong with his edits? He seems to be adding several paragraphs of information, which you delete entirely. I see one or two typos here or there, but wouldn't it be easier to fix those than just remove his large amounts of work whole-hog? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:03, 16 December 2010 (EST)
:Believe me, I've been mulling over that myself, but ultimately, it's more than just typos. A lot of his sentences just don't read right and would ultimately require full rewrites. Figured someone else starting again from scratch would be better than a Cleanup tag... But if I'm wrong in this, sorry. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:23, 16 December 2010 (EST)
:: The English doesn't really read that badly. It's simple, but better than the nothing we have now. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:29, 16 December 2010 (EST)

==New mexico vs. New Mexico==
Thanks, I totally realised the mistake soon after I made the page.
[[User:MadmanFoidart|MadmanFoidart]] 14:46, 10 January 2011 (EST)

== Reverting edits ==

May I ask why you insist on reverting my edits? Especially the one just now about TransTech Megatron's concept design matching almost-perfectly to ROTF Megatron's design, which I see far more-notable than the "Oh look, it's an H-Tank, it atuomatically links to Armada Megatron" trivia listed before it, which you have left alone.

For this particular case, it is not merely my opinion that the two resemble each other more, as a quick glance at the image displayed in the trivia section, let alone what that trivia links to off-wiki, shows a closer resemblance to ROTF than Armada, by far.
[[Special:Contributions/24.143.42.51|24.143.42.51]] 02:41, 27 January 2011 (EST)
:You're right, looks like I jumped the gun at that one. My apologies. Still, it could stand a rewriting to be a little less... dogpiley. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 03:35, 27 January 2011 (EST)

== Mindset ==

You said: ''It says the toy is a retool of Hailstorm, and Hailstorm was designed as the homage.''
If the Hailstorm/Mindset mold was designed as an homage to the original Mindset, then I don't see how the new Mindset could ''not'' be an homage to the original. Particularly since, given the way Hasbro is planning retools these days, the Hailstorm mold was ''always'' intended to be retooled into a Mindset. What is the distinction you're making? [[User:JW|JW]] 20:13, 7 February 2011 (EST)
:No ressemblance to the original character, for starters. If he was "clearly" intended as an homage, the head would surely have carried over the original character's visor at the very least, yes? And the colors, too. G2 Mindset was white, green and grey, this Autobot Mindset is blue and black. And lastly, the faction allegiance. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:22, 7 February 2011 (EST)
This is how I suspect it went down:
#Hailstorm toy was designed.
#[[Kyde]] was all, hey, dudes, that's totally Mindset.
#Hasbro decided to name its redeco "Mindset."
Somewhere in between 2 and 3, Toy Fair probably happened, when Aaron was all about how this toy was totally Mindset.
--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:20, 7 February 2011 (EST)
:Hmm, okay. Point granted. [[User:JW|JW]] 07:22, 8 February 2011 (EST)

== Motormaster ==

I think the one that said Motormaster's size change is right, because Motormaster is the same size as Optimus, while Optimus has the same size as Motormaster in car mode, both of them with their trailers, i think there's size change in there.

--[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 19:24, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
:Yeah, and there's a [[Powertrain|freighter truck]] that transforms into a robot that goes up to Prime's shin. Scale doesn't mean much in Transformers, you have Porsche Jazz towering over Porsche Cliffjumper and Jeep Hound towering over Jeep Brawn and F-15s turning into robots the same size as Lamborghinis. It's a dumb thing to note. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:39, 14 March 2011 (EDT)

== Windcharger ==

"This was removed before because it's false. Don't add it back" How is it false?--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 23:09, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

==Bumblebee==
BOTH of you knock it the fuck off or you're both getting put in a corner for a while. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:45, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

== DOTM Bumblebee ==

Just to clear things up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpqamRtmGRE&feature=feedu the maker of the video says:
because this figure is smaller than any other version of bumblebee, they technically are all brand new parts. They couldn't reuse any other Bumblebee parts cause they no longer would fit.--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 15:33, 25 March 2011 (EDT)

==If you don't like Robert Stack==

You should say so when you're taking funny things he said from the Ultra Magnus page. It's not as if the image even had a caption before, could you not have left it? I ask because since you didn't give a reason, it ''looks'' like you revert all IP edits you see on principle, without checking what was actually changed. Busy schedule? [[Special:Contributions/92.13.226.232|92.13.226.232]] 19:48, 5 April 2011 (EDT)
:Detour doesn't always check properly what an anon added, but he does check. On captions, the rules are very clear though: If you have not contributed to the wiki in a meaningful way, you are NOT allowed to add or change captions UNLESS you have asked permission first on the article's talk page. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 02:00, 6 April 2011 (EDT)

== Inferno (BW) ==

May I just ask why did you undo the caption edit?
: Because you replaced an existing caption with a YouTube link. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:09, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
:: Are YouTubes links forbidden? I do believe I saw them in captions on this Wiki before. --[[User:SymbolsWriter|SymbolsWriter]]
::: Well, first there's the problem of ''replacing an existing caption.'' It's frowned upon. Second, a little '''[1]''' under an image isn't a caption. It's just a link. It's not pretty or witty, it's just an unmarked link. Captions should be captions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
:::: Well, yes, I suspected (now I know for sure) that much (the "frown upon" part), and that's (partially, anyway) the reason I've never edited a caption before. But no, wait, I was pretty sure that when I checked the article after the edit there was blue text "nope.avi" in the caption that was a link to a video, not just "[1]". Or am I missing something? --[[User:SymbolsWriter|SymbolsWriter]] 14:59, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
::::Also, to further clarify things, I'll give this link: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/nopeavi You can even find the screenshot the caption of which I changed in the related pictures there. I hope that article will be clear enough explanation of my motive to change the aforementioned caption. --[[User:SymbolsWriter|SymbolsWriter]] 02:29, 13 April 2011 (EDT)

== Regarding the edits Eagc7 made ==

Apparently you haven't read the [[Megatron (Movie)]] article in awhile, because Eagc7 was just trying to help out. [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Megatron_%28Movie%29&diff=484337&oldid=481886 Xaaron made this edit] almost a year ago, most likely because nobody bothered to fill out that section since 2007. Nobody objected. Eagc7 evidently noticed this and was trying to make the other articles consistent. I think you should have questioned his motives before insta-reverting them. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:37, 12 April 2011 (EDT)

== Mech-Tech page ==

The only reason it was "Just a list copied from the DOTM page" is because he HADN'T FINISHED THE PAGE YET --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 16:08, 12 April 2011 (EDT)
:It shouldn't be a list, it should be a description of the gimmick, like our [[Automorph Technology]] and [[Mech Alive]] pages, that's why it's tagged, it's even explained in the tag. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:14, 12 April 2011 (EDT)

== Fusion Cannon ==

You have undone my edit of Movie Megatron's fusion cannon twice now and I am wondering why? In the 2007 movie at 1:57:13 you can clearly see Megatron shoot Jazz with his fusion cannon from his RIGHT arm. I just watched it, so I know I am correct. If you have a good reason for undoing my edits, let me know, but until then I am just going to keep changing it back. --[[User:BATTOUSAI XD|BATTOUSAI XD]] 02:43, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
:You didn't watch well enough. That's '''Jazz''' shooting Megatron, not the other way around. By contrast, Megatron's fusion cannon is clearly in his left arm, as you see Prime shoot him off balance before he fires, but he turns around, cannon clearly on his left arm, re-aims and shoots. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:05, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
Sorry but you didn't watch well enough. '''Jazz''' does fire first, then '''Megatron''' fires and Jazz goes flying. I haven't watched the battle with Optimus recently, so it may be that Megatron also has a fusion cannon in his left arm as well and can combine both to make them more powerful. --[[User:BATTOUSAI XD|BATTOUSAI XD]] 10:00, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
Maybe it's a different weapons system, but do you have any evidence to back that up? I'm assuming you have finally accepted that Megatron does shoot Jazz with his right arm and you watched the entire scene. The blast was blue like the blast from the combined fusion cannon and his fusion cannon from ROTF ,and it was very powerful, as it sent Jazz flying much in the same way as it did to Optimus in ROTF. Also, he lost his left arm at the end of the first movie, and if it were solely stored in his left arm, it would not have been present in ROTF. It's probably pretty safe to assume that "the Little One," who provided Megatron with parts did not possess a fusion cannon and the "Doctor" did not build a completely new one. IF you can come up with a better arguement than that or provide some official source material, I'll leave it alone, but if you keep using an ambiguous arguement I'll just keep editing the article.
:Do you have any evidence that it '''is''' his fusion cannon? A single blast from said cannon sent Optimus Prime, OPTIMUS PRIME, flying over a full city block into a building, while Jazz barely flew a few feet. But hey, for added evidence, [http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t285/Detour84/TF/vlcsnap-2011-04-26-01h56m39s185.png this] does not look like either [http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t285/Detour84/TF/vlcsnap-2011-04-26-01h57m49s50.png this] or [http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t285/Detour84/TF/vlcsnap-2011-04-26-01h58m11s5.png this]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:01, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
No I don't have any evidence that it is a fusion cannon, but I think there is a better argument for it being a fusion cannon than not, as I stated above. And yes Jazz did only fly a few feet, but maybe that's because the fusion cannon was not at full power because it was not combined with Megatron's left arm. As for the pictures, they don't look anything like the crab claw fusion cannon, yet that is still a fusion cannon. I'm not trying to jerk you around; this is just how I see it and a lot of this is just opinion because Hasbro or whoever hasn't officially detailed anything. Maybe we could ask someone else who edits this Wiki for their opinion on it and just go with that?
:That doesn't work, because as my screenshots show, the fusion cannon is ''entirely part of Megatron's left arm''. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:23, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
How does that explain how his fusion cannon moved from his left arm to his right arm? I don't see the problem with what I wrote, because it leaves the statement you wrote about the fusion cannon being stored in the left arm and it touches on the blast that was fired at Jazz with his right arm. It says nowhere that it '''is''' definitely a fusion cannon. All I wanted to write was that there is a possiblility that his right arm is a fusion cannon, or at least part of a whole. The scene with Jazz is up for interpretation, but I think it should be added so others who read this article can decide for themselves. As far as getting someone else's opinion, you will have to get someone to help with that. I don't know how to ask any of the main editors and I assume you probably do. Just have them comment in this section with an opinion on it.--[[User:BATTOUSAI XD|BATTOUSAI XD]] 1:39, 26 April 2011 (EDT)

==why didnt you jsut fixed it?==
instead of removing all i wrote on the movie Starscream page, why didnt you just Fixed my typos and mistakes? {{unsigned|Eagc7}}
:Because I couldn't even understand what it was you were trying to say. Your poor English goes far beyond simple spelling errors. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:46, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
::Okay, in that case, lets keep a Character Stub template (which i already did) {{unsigned|Eagc7}}

== Dude, STOP. NOW. ==

Abra cannot learn Hypnosis. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 23:19, 28 April 2011 (EDT)
: Seriously, you are now the wiki's worst vandal. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:31, 28 April 2011 (EDT)

== The Autobot Hero ==

I had thought of reverting his edit to Fire on the Mountain the same as you did, but decided against it as the internal link was a redlink. Are we planning on having an [[Andes Mountains]] page? If not, he actually did the right thing. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:13, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
:Well, [[Peru]] wasn't a redlink. Standard seems to be that locations where stuff happens in fiction deserve wiki articles. The Andes mountains do come up in both Fire in the Mountain and the Japanese PS2 Transformers game, so the location deserves a proper TFWiki article, IMO. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:17, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
::And the Kid Stuff audiobooks have the Andes partially destroyed in "Storms of Destruction". [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:48, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
:::Thanks for that! Added the link to it too. I'd love to make a page for it (being the huge Mysterious Cities of Gold nerd that I am) but since I don't have access to any of the material they show up in, there isn't much I can do. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:56, 6 May 2011 (EDT)

==Editing==
I read the "Help:Editing" page.-[[User:Dirgeor|Dirgeor]] 20:02, 19 June 2011 (EDT)

== Crowbar ==
I'm quite not sure why you removed my photo of Crowbar. Can you please tell me?
:Because it's a horrible shot that barely shows Crowbar at all, if that's even him. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:05, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
It is him, you can clearly see Crankcase in another shot. I can understand that the shot wasn't great, but it's better than an inaccurate representation of him in Cyberverse form.

== Crisscross "Error" ==

Rather than risk a revert war, I'll simply discuss the matter here first.

If the package was delivered to the garage while Arcee was away for some unknown length of time, why should she question its origin? I still say someone from MECH could have broken into the garage, delivered the package, and locked up on their way out, thus accounting for the package's presence. (Yes, it's something of an error not to explain it in-story, but I think that's at least a feasible explanation.)--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 02:05, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
: That's how I read the sequence of events. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 04:01, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
: You make some good points. But after even two watchings the whole thing still felt weird. When you stop and think about it, only Jack or June could've taken care of the package... If Arcee assumes June has... she'd know Arcee wasn't in the garage. So... why's she so casual about the package? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:06, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
:: My postman leaves packages in my garage all the time if I'm not there to take delivery, honestly. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 05:01, 29 June 2011 (EDT)

== Editing ==
Can we please discuss our debates before filing pages for deletion? I have a strong argument. Please just listen to me.
-[[User:PurpleCyclops|Caleb]]
:No. You don't. Preliminary names are just that, '''preliminary'''. We're not calling Mirage "Rush", and the same applies to Crowbar and Hatchet. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:18, 3 July 2011 (EDT)
Rush isn't the final name for Mirage. Hatchet is a typhoon fighter jet. Crowbar is a Carbon Motors E7 Police car. The trio in the film are suburbans. This is not the case of renaming them. This is the case of '''different character'''.
:No, this is the case of '''different altmodes'''. Do we consider Sideways anyone but Sideways? Because his toy sure as hell wasn't a screen-accurate Audi, and didn't even use the proper color scheme. You're being utterly ridiculous. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:38, 3 July 2011 (EDT)

I was saying that the characters were most likely different since they hadn't the right altmode or altmode size, since Hatchet would be much too big to be a suburban, if he was a jet, and Crowbar would be too small if he was a police car. Sorry bout everything though, I agree, my argument '''is''' ridiculous.

== Joke ==
By reference, I meant a reference to something. A joke. Jokes aren't meant to be useful. And this wiki is full of them. One on almost every image. Which isn't very useful, when they could have a informative caption. But that's one of my favorite things about this wiki. It's humor. Once again, I find you reverting anything I post. Can't I just add a simple joke that can appeal to some people, without attracting the attention of you?
:It's humor, yes, but it's still a wiki. Signal to noise ratio is the key here, and smashing a bad joke about train delays in the first sentence of Astrotrain's bio isn't the way to go about it. Signal to noise, the wiki must be funny but also informative. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 05:21, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

You do have a point. I agree it is still a wiki, and it's not that informative. However you kind of missed the joke. A popular quote in a T.V. show about trains from my childhood was when the person would scold the train, he would say "you've caused confusion and delay". Nothing to do with train delays.

== Spam ==

Does [[User talk:Dynamic|THIS]] count as Spam?--[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 15:39, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
:Not really. Spam is more people and/or bots trying to scam people with advertisements. Dynamic's talk page doesn't fall into that. I'm not sure what he's trying to do, either he's trying to share an easter egg with the wiki or he's trying to spark a discussion, either way it's not really spam. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:16, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
== Volume Number ==
Woops, sorry about that. After that anon troll was just going around changing tiny things on the year pages, I ended up with a bit of an itchy trigger finger. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:13, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

== Dave Fennoy Picture ==

Hi There. Could you find a picture of [[Dave Fennoy]] for his page?

== Doctor Arkeville in sound and furry ==

When the Hot Dog Bot rebels the man he is serving has the distinct rounded triangle jaw and mad scientist like hair style of G1 villain Doctor Arkeville. can you tell me anouther human character in either show has one of these characteristics yet he has both of them, it is pretty clear he is a homage to the classic decepticon allied human please stop reverting this
:Yeah, and I suppose Doc Brown is a Doctor Arkeville homage too? It's very common for old men to their hair up top, have their hair lose color and get a longer jaw. Just because one incidental character sported those features doesn't automatically mean HOMAGE. Please stop grasping at straws. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:37, 10 October 2011 (EDT)

:Doc Brown did not have a triangular rounded jaw and as for the hair several scientist in fiction have it as homage to Albert Einstein. However I am not aware of any other transformers characters that this hair style. Plus I have never seen or heard of anyone getting a longer jaw when they got older. It is not grasping at straws as much as seeing a comparison somebody made between the two and adding it here.
::No metal hat & hand = No Arkeville. --Thy2k, not logged in

== Found cosmos art from official artist! ==

I found some art of cosmy! should we replace the main page now? its from the official artist's deviantart page, sides we got most of the moving violations character photos from devianart too. for cosmos art see link http://tehkoreandude.deviantart.com/gallery/24312266#/d3lnp2f --User:Jazzerprime
:That's not official Transformers art. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 05:31, 11 October 2011 (EDT)

== Tell me ==

Do you actually look at people's edits before you revert them? --[[User:TheOnlyChoice|TheOnlyChoice]] 04:13, 16 October 2011 (EDT)
:Yes. And you only had two edits the last one a month ago, before suddenly declaring yourself the lord of what's sucky or not. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:22, 16 October 2011 (EDT)

== It's true. ==

If they hadn't fallen in because of the surge, five seconds later, it would have turned them into transmetals and the lava wouldn't have had any more effect than a hot bath. If that doesn't describe irony, nothing does. [[Special:Contributions/70.77.36.81|70.77.36.81]] 20:40, 30 October 2011 (EDT)
:I don't recall lava immunity being a Transmetal power. Just because Tarantulas survived it doesn't mean everyone else can, nor dor it indicate that survival was directly due to Transmetalness. Also, noting it purely out of "irony" is like saying it's ironic Ironhide's shuttle was on an Energon run because if they weren't low on Energon they would've survived the Decepticon attack. It's silly and pointless. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:44, 30 October 2011 (EDT)

== Can you Remove ==
Can you remove "Luis Daniel Ramírez" page, since it seems this guy Arturo Castañeda is going to be Jack Darby voice in the spanish dub of Prime {{unsigned|Eagc7}}
:Sorry, I'm not a mod or an admin here so I don't have the power to do this. I'll tag it for deletion, though, if that help. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:28, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

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[[Image:Obama_interview.jpg|thumb|right|300px|"Mr. President, with an alien invasion upon us, the American people want to know: ''Where is [[Wikipedia:Tom Jones (singer)|Tom Jones]]?"'']]

'''Barack "Barry"<ref name="joke">[http://www.therealeffingdeal.com/blog/obamania-but-will-he-elect-to-take-the-search-seriously/#more-109 "OBAMAMANIA!" blog post] by Sharkatron3000 on TheRealEffingDeal.com</ref> Obama''' was elected [[President of the United States]] in a time of national and global peril. While [[George W. Bush|his predecessor]] was incumbent, a crisis had exploded with [[Megatron (Movie)|N.B.E. 01]]'s, the loss of the [[AllSpark (Movie)|All Spark]], and a swarm of [[Transformer|alien combatants]] waging a clandestine, highly unconventional war in hotspots across the [[Earth|world]].

When he was running for election, Obama had blown off a question about alien visitors with a joke.<ref name="joke" /> But as President, his fear that the [[Autobot]]s' presence attracted the [[Decepticon]]s led him to appoint a [[Theodore Galloway|National Security Advisor]] that was a constant thorn in the side of the [[NEST|joint human/Autobot military force]], which found itself increasingly hamstrung in direct proportion to the gravity of the Decepticon threat.

{{quote|...we aren’t sure Barry is so ready to tackle the real issues of EXTRATERRESTRIAL life, especially when it involves an INVASION FORCE!|[[Sharsky|Sharkatron3000]]|[[The Real Effing Deal|The Real Effing Deal.com]]}}

==Fiction==
===''The Real Effing Deal''===
[[Sharsky|Sharkatron3000]] posted a clip on [[The Real Effing Deal]] from an interview of Obama when he was still running for president.
{{quote|If you are elected and you learned that the government knew aliens had visited Earth, and the public didn't know...would you be sure the public found out?|Channel 2 reporter}}
{{quote|It depends on what these aliens were like, and whether they were Democrats or Republicans.|Barack Obama}}

Sharkatron3000 took the interview as evidence that the President is completely unprepared for the prospect of alien visitors, because he treated the question as a joke.

Later, Leo Spitz cited the President's actions as a justification for his own video-blogging.{{storylink|The Real Effing Deal}}

===''Revenge of the Fallen'' film===

After coming to power, Obama [[Tales of the Fallen issue 2|retained]] <strike>Admiral</strike> General [[Morshower]] as the [[:wikipedia:Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff|Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff]].

Even though [[NEST]] had successfully destroyed the Decepticon infiltrators in [[Shanghai]], [[China]], the new President of the United States was horrified by the destruction caused during the operation. President Obama sent Director [[Theodore Galloway]] to [[Diego Garcia]] to outline the White House's criticisms of NEST's operations and their alliance with the alien Autobots, in particular [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]'s open invitation for Autobot refugees to come to [[Earth]]. They feared that reason the Decepticons being on Earth was to seek vengeance upon the Autobots and their allies, and when General Morshower attempted to defend [[William Lennox|Major Lennox]] and his men's judgement by stating they were above reproach, Galloway stated that as far as the President was concerned, ''nobody'' was above reproach. He directly asked Optimus Prime that if the President felt that the United States' national security was better served by having the Autobots leave Earth, would they do so peacefully? Optimus Prime agreed, but bluntly told Galloway to pass along a message to the President: What if the Autobots leave, and the humans are ''wrong?''

Soon afterwards, Optimus Prime was killed in battle defending [[Sam Witwicky]], and [[The Fallen]] began his invasion of Earth. Among the casualties were [[Paris]], [[France]], and the aircraft carrier [[United States Navy#U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt (CVN-71)|U.S.S. ''Theodore Roosevelt'']]; Obama was flown to a secure bunker. Appalled with the loss of over seven thousand lives (including American sailors), the President ordered the deactivation of NEST and the immediate transportation of the Autobots back to Diego Garcia, deciding instead to focus on a coordinated US military strategy against the Decepticon threat. Galloway also revealed that while battle plans were being drawn up, Obama was exploring "every diplomatic solution" as well and handing over Sam Witwicky was being considered as well.

Lennox would end up taking his NEST team on an unauthorised mission into [[Egypt|foreign territory without permission]] and also tricking Galloway into getting stranded in said country, but he's the hero and it worked out okay so as far as we know Obama let it slide. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

He reactivated NEST after this.

===IDW ''Revenge of the Fallen'' comics===
[[Image:TalesoftheFallen5_BarackObama.jpg|thumb|left|250px|"Look, hurry up, I've got three more comics to cameo in before lunch. (Oh god, Youngblood's next isn't it?)"]]

When military forces failed to restrain a resurrected [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]], [[NEST]] recommended an [[United States Air Force|air strike]] on Ravage's bolthole. Barack Obama was asked to authorize the air strike, and did. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 5}}
{{--}}

===''Dark of the Moon'' film===
Following [[Sam Witwicky]]'s involvement in two events which saved the world from Decepticon actions, he was given a medal from President Barack Obama at the [[White House]]. Sam hoped the medal would have offered him more leverage into employment, but it did not, and at one specific job prospect he was turned away because the interviewer was not impressed, as the employees there were "mostly [[Republican]]". {{storylink|Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}

==Notes==
* While on the campaign trail, the [[Wikipedia:Barack Obama|real-life Barack Obama]] met [[Michael Bay]] by chance in an airport, and the two had a mutually-complimentary conversation. Inspired by this encounter, Bay made a late-stage decision to add Obama's name and image to a brief scene in ''Revenge of the Fallen''.<ref>[http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/a160272/michael-bay-obama-likes-my-movies.html Michael Bay: 'Obama likes my movies'] at Digital Spy, and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfT7ZF_AUk8 Bay telling the story at a press conference.]</ref> It is unknown whether it occurred to Bay, or whether it was planned or not, that the movie's otherwise-unnamed President is essentially a villain (or perhaps a well-meaning bureaucrat) whose concerns almost doom Earth. Several critics winced over ''that'' one, assuming it was deliberate <ref>[http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1906689,00.html Time's review of "Revenge of the Fallen"]</ref> <ref>[http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/screen/reviews/Transformers-Revenge-of-the-Fallen-49559047.html Philadelphia Weekly's review of ''Revenge of the Fallen'']</ref>, while some conservative movie critics and bloggers <ref>[http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2009/06/24/turnabout-transformers-2-takes-a-shot-at-president-obama/ Big Hollywood: Turnabout]</ref><ref>[http://www.residualforces.com/2009/06/29/transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen-obamas-first-dig/ Residual Forces blog review]</ref><ref>[http://hubpages.com/hub/Transformers-2-Revenge-of-the-Fallen--A-Political-Message A blogger's specific focus on the politics]</ref> rejoiced over it. As the film's writers are Democrat supporters, this was probably meant to be a stock genre plot - [[Autobot High Council|the bureaucratic government]] [[Council of Autobot Elders|stopping Our Boys from]] [[Maximal High Council|saving the day from the Enemy]] - rather than a deliberate dig.

* So how ''does'' the President of one country shut down a multinational organization on his own?

* In an [[Transformers_(Titan_Magazine)#Alternate_universe|alternate timeline]] presented in the UK Titan comics, in which the Decepticons were victorious in the battle of [[Mission City]], Obama did not become the next President of the United States. Instead, when the previous President was killed, fictional Vice President [[Theodore Allen]] succeeded him. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 14}}

* The real-life Obama was the inspiration for much of [[Transcendent Technomorph|TransTech]] [[Optimus Prime (TransTech)|Optimus Prime]]'s [[bio]].

* Obama took a notably more dismissive view of the Autobots than his ally [[United Kingdom#Notes|Gordon Brown]].

* Obama [[Cheetor (BW)|likes pie]]. [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100424/ap_en_tv/us_leno_axelrod]

* [[Kevin Michael Richardson]] voiced Obama in a animated version on the ''[[Batman]]: The Brave and the Bold'' episode "Cry Freedom Fighters!". Strangest thing is [[Tom Kenny|Plastic Man]] did not regonized him.

* Don't ask to see his brith certificate.

==Footnotes==
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User talk:Detour

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Will you please stop? You've been going in the same fucking circle for what, hours? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:43, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

==Daniel Ross at Botcon 2007==
I'll see your "Attendee", and raise you "Special Guest" with evidence straight from the official Botcon Archives themselves, lol. I confirmed this within the past hour with Mr. Ross via Facebook. Here's the Link to the archived "Special Guest" listing for Botcon 2007. [http://www.botcon.com/botcon07/guest07.cfm]

==Movie Jolt vs Movie Jolt==
Sorry if the post about Jolt not being confused with the previously released Jolt wasn't a good one... Just thought it was sort of a unique case that should be addressed, what with there being two movie Jolts, and unlike the 2007 one which didn't appear in any movies and has since been changed to a different character, also not appearing in the movies, the new Jolt is in the movie. I know that's what disambiguation is for, but I just thought it was an interesting bit of trivia that a movie character's name was already used in the movieverse, though for a different character. (not including the whole movie Arcee thing) -Cliffjumper Prime

==Megatron joke==
The monsters in MMPR always started out human-sized. Then, at some point, Rita throws her staff down from the Moon shouting "Make my monster grow!". The staff lands in the ground and energy shoots out of it, making the monster enormous. The laser effects around Megatron's cannon in that picture look a lot like the staff. Here is a YouTube clip of it: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUelB-OSneY]. Honestly, it's not a big deal to me, but the old joke doesn't really make any sense in the first place. It seems to be a premature ejaculation joke to go along with his cannon firing, but it's not like there's anybody else in the picture for the innuendo to be complete. I think the observation our anonymous editor made about the resemblance to the staff is actually pretty clever. A rare instance of somebody changing a joke for the better, IMO. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 16:20, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
:Huzzah! I have a talk page now! Anyway, thanks for clearing it up... I didn't get the ressemblance of Bandora's staff to the laser blast effects of Megatron's cannons... At least I understood the previous joke, wasn't all that funny but it made sense without the explanation. -[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:54, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

== Revert Revert ==

Slaggit! This is like, the fourth time this has happened to me. I SPECIFICALLY checked with a preview when I was about to make the reversion, and it did NOT tell me any edits had been made since I'd started mine. Apologies for the confusion and annoyance, but I am definitely not doing this on purpose...--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 23:39, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:No worries. I know it wasn't your fault. I'm pretty sure this happened to me at least once as well. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:11, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks. That actually makes me feel a lot better about it.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:23, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

==Treatment==
Hey, it's not uploaded anywhere anymore (but Don Murphy has no issues with us handing it around). I can send you the PDF, but I need your email. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 22:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

==Nunchakus==
His name is "Michelangelo". :) --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 14:38, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
:My bad. Haven't watched TMNT since the original toon. And I was never into Renaissance art or whatever era the artist namesake was from. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:28, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Airazor caption ==

Hi. I was wondering what was wrong with the old caption for the Airazor photo.
:Essentially, there's nothing wrong with the toy so criticizing it like that is pointless. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 08:29, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
::Okay. I didn't think the caption was meant as a criticism of the toy. I thought it was meant to point out that though she was designed as a female figure, she didn't really turn out looking any more female than any other Transformer (excluding Arcee and Thunderblast). But humor is subjective, and what I find somewhat funny might not seem funny at all to someone else.
:::Airazor was designed as a male figure. The toy/character only became female on the insistence of the show writers. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 09:15, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
::::We're talking about the caption for the Transmetal figure. I thought that one was designed from the start to be female.
:::::... oh! Did not realize. Sorry. Ignore me. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 09:51, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

== Blurr ==

He is known to be a member, which should be enough, but he is also known to appear again later in the season, both through the footage from Dubai and the teasers released on the blog. That's why I said that I believed that it ws exception enough if he wasn't a member, it wouldn't need to be moved, but both together seem to be compelling enough.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 16:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:Look at your talk page, anything Dubai-related ''should not'' be discussed here in any capacity. We are not gloryhounds like Seibertron trying to be the first ones to announce every single giant spoiler of every single piece of media. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:49, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
::That's great, but that's not what I am trying to say. He was announced as a character a while ago, before Dubai, and on one of the creator blogs. He's known to be in the Elite Guard, and we even know who his American voice actor is. We've even had him make his first appearance. Dubai just confirmed an episode he reappears in. That's all I'm trying to say - that we know he's in the guard, and we have confirmation from various sources of a future appearance. Hell, that we've listed his voice actor should be confirmation enough.
::And I didn't make the edit to spread spoilers - I did it to add info to a wiki, when the info is confirmed. Yes, we should not be obsessed with news, but neither should we put blinders on and wait until info is months or years old. (Hyperbole, but you get my point)[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 22:05, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

== Rabbicrater Edits ==

Just FYI, the edits HooperX made were capitalizing on the fact that Rabbicrater looks like his name contains the word "rabbi", when in fact it's meant to be most of the word "rabbit". The caption gag of "L'chaim" thus becomes more obvious, though I like the current one better. As for the miscellaneous trivia, I think it's an attempt at a callback to one of the final scenes from the Mel Brooks film ''History of the World, Part 1''. So not TOTAL nonsense.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 14:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:Oh, well I don't know much about Judaism so "L'chaim" is kind of flying over my head right now (and I believe even if explained, the Yaoi Kiss Players joke will still be funnier)... And the misc trivia, well History Of The World Part 1 is one of the Mel Brooks films I have not yet had the pleasure of watching... Even then, it's kind of out of place in the same paragraph as the info about the rabbit on the moon... if Hooper wants to bring it back I would suggest he add another asterisk paragraph to point it out... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:11, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
::Long story short, a robot with the word "Rabbi" in his name, even if it actually has to do with "rabbit" is ripe for Judaism gags. "L'Chaim!" is a traditional exclamation of celebration. Originally, I was just gonna put the lyrics to Hava Nagila up there, but hey. The Kiss Players thing I had to stop and stare at - the two dudes humping are kind of cut out of the frame. But hey, whatever. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 15:15, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:::FWIW, "L'chaim" is a traditional Hebrew version of "Cheers!" and literally means "To life!" I'm up for ethnic humor as much as the <s>next</s> previous guy, but I still find the KP gag funnier in this case. The thought of "Hava Negila" lyrics as a caption does make me grin, though...--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== Real Gear hairdryer ==

Good you took that out for now, I was just too exited to post a unreleased toy for the Movie line, so I did not stop to check if it was real or not. I'm currently looking for more info on it and will put that back up once I found proof.
By the way, what do the read minus numbers next to your edit mean?[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 12:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
-Edit, I fell for a joke! it was just a joke to take the piss of the US toy gun law.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 19:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
:Number of characters (letters and spaces) added or removed from the total article length by this edit. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:45, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
::....what? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:24, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

== Hi ==

I'm listening and I'm sorry [[User:Gyro-Robo|Gyro-Robo]] 22:43, 8 June 2008

== Mayhem Suppression Squad‎ ==

Hello ^^ I removed the [[:Category: Shattered Glass characters]] from the [[Mayhem Suppression Squad‎]] members because [[:Category:Mayhem Suppression Squad‎]] is already under [[:Category: Shattered Glass characters]]. Just like [[Killbison]] only under [[:Category:Breastforce]] which is contained by Combiners, Decepticons, and Victory characters. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 00:49, 22 April 2009 (EDT)

== 1989 Character Models ==
Howdy! I saw the Bumblebee & Jazz pretender models. Do you happen to have higher resolution versions of these images that you'd be willing to share with me? Do you have any more images from this era? (The Ark III needs your help!) --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 21:04, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

== Drift ==

Fine, have it your way! This site could be something awesome for everybody, yet guys like you persist in making it a refuge for your snide insults and negativity. --[[User:Hutch|Hutch]] 03:47, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:If it helps... even some of us here think Detour takes the AHM-bashing to ridiculous extremes. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 04:23, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
::Except a lot of what he yanked out was stuff not even written by me. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:25, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Some of us are OK with desnarking the overly-snarked articles. Thankfully Rosicrucian just redid the removal. :P --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 04:29, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
::::No, he yanked different parts, and rewrote another. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:33, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
Man, just let it go. We're trying to make the trivia sections ''smaller'', y'know.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:00, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

No! Much, much bigger! I'm good with keeping the Poochie theme for SL: Drift's page, but we really, really gotta get a reference to Rurouni Kenshin on a Drift image somewhere down the line! I can't imagine McCarthy not having Kenshin in some corner of his mind when he was creating Drift. "Oh man, he'll be an ex-assassin, with a dark past he regrets, and he carries a special sword! AWESOME!" --[[User:Nu-Priest|Nu-Priest]] 16:20, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

==Vandalism?==
Thanks for fixing my page, I appreciate it. Apparently Mr. Anon didn't take too kindly from me having to up and leave his little "discussion". People gotta go do other things besides argue with somebody on the other side of the computer all day. So do you know how severe punishment is for vandalizing someone's User Page?---[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 22:15, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:In this case, I'm inclined to believe it was a simple accident. The guy isn't really all that wiki savvy, and may have just clicked on your sig and thought it was your talkpage. He's... well, I don't hold any illusions he's going to be a productive user here, but he's on a dynamic IP and isn't outright harmful so I'm not sure what a block would accomplish.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:17, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
::True, I didn't take that into account. I tend to jump to the vandalism claim (or any claim honestly) a little too gung-ho sometimes, and this is one of those times.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 22:27, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:::S'okay. I mean, I'd be lying if I said my cursor didn't hover over the block button on him while I thought about it. Trouble is his two IPs so far don't even seem to share a common subnet, so even an IP range ban wouldn't be viable. If he becomes genuinely abusive lemme know and I'd be happy to play whack-a-mole with his IPs.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:31, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

Sorry, I'm new here. Won't happen again, trust me.--[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 20:59, 12 June 2009 (EDT)

*Z-z-zay, is it no vandalism to undo the another's additionz-z-z-z without any explanation? What's wrong with z-z-z-z-them?--[[User:He-l-en1959|Waz-z-z-zpinator59]] 01:11, 1 December 2009 (EST)
:They didn't make any sense. You should stick to adding to the synopsis/etc. because your English seems to slip right down to nonsensical when you do captions. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 01:47, 1 December 2009 (EST)

==Barricade ROTF DS game==
Why instand of deleting it why dont you fix all my misspelling i have the game and all barricade parts are true.--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
:So... the burden is on ''us'' to fix what you write?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:07, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
:Because neither I nor anyone else on the wiki is your personal spellchecker. If you want your edits to stick, put some effort into it and that includes using proper English. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:07, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

== Ze little one ==

"The identity of ze little one is a bit on the fraught side. In the flyover shot of the barge on which the four Constructicons sit, a red bulldozer (Rampage), a concrete mixer (Mixmaster), a dump truck (Long Haul) and a yellow front-end loader are visible. The yellow front-end loader is the alternate mode of the Constructicon Scrapper, and ze little one's robot mode appears to be the same as Scrapper's. As such, the temptation to just consider this a Scrapper unit is great... except that, after the flyover shot, the yellow loader disappears, and is replaced with a yellow Volvo excavator, clearly marked with a large Decepticon insignia. For the purposes of reducing headaches, we're assuming that the excavator is the "correct" vehicle mode, and that it just happens to transform into a robot mode that resembles Scrapper...even though it's not him. "

I wasn't aware of the decision that had reached on the "Ze little one" page, so I didn't realize that this was the reasoning being used. I can agree with this, and I'm sorry the discussion got so hostile. Have a great week.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 00:30, 16 July 2009 (EDT)

== SG Ark & SG Nemesis ==

I'd just have Derik's bot fix those links along with the rest. I only fixed the others because there was about 2-3 links each instead of the 60+ for those two pages. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 16:32, 6 August 2009 (EDT)

==Thanks for giving me my username==

Seriously best alias ever [[User:Potty Mouth Anon|Potty Mouth Anon]] 01:55, 21 August 2009 (EDT)

== TFA: S.P.'s amnesia ==

You completely sure about that? Seemed like a kind of joke to me - Wasp going through this whole list of humiliation and Sentinel denying it while keeping a straight face.
EDIT: sorry for double posting, my browser's acting a little strange [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 13:26, 25 August 2009 (EDT)
:Except Sentinel finishes the scene by saying "Wait a minute, that was you?" He genuinely doesn't remember, only recalling it then and there. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 13:27, 25 August 2009 (EDT)
::Oookay, my bad. Seems like his ego is powerful enough to erase memories of minor, non-significant beings like Wasp, Bee or Bulky... [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 13:45, 25 August 2009 (EDT)

==Deaths of Optimus Prime "fanon"==
That... wasn't fanon. It was more awkwardly phrased, but consistent with how it was portrayed in the episode. Aerialbots even say, to my recollection, that there are "others at the hanger." Elita-1 was rebuilt. Dion wasn't mentioned. What part of that is fanon, and why did that give you the right to allcaps that dude into submission for it? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:17, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
:Well it explicitly said in the anon guy's contribution way back there that "Ariel and Dion were also rebuilt" (followed by an awkward parenthesis saying Ariel at least). Plus, the episode itself is awkwardly phrased... Slingshot says "There are others back at the hangar, his girlfriend Ariel" as though he actually meant to say "there's another one back at the hangar, his girlfriend Ariel". After Orion is rebuilt as Prime, there's no concern for any "others" and they only speak of Ariel, whom Alpha Trion says he'll "send droids out for". No mention at all that he'd rebuild other casualties of the hangar massacre. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:32, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
::Another interpretation: Slingshot says "There are others back at the hangar, [for example] his girlfriend Ariel." Otherwise, he's not being correct when he says there are "otherS" there. Plural. I'm not saying that Alpha Trion rebuilt anybody other than Prime and Elita, or that we have any evidence thereof. I'm saying what the guy wrote, in that particular revision, was technically correct. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:50, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
:::The ''best'' kind of correct. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:06, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

== the Peter Cullen photo. ==

I know the person who is in that picture. I thought it would be fun depicting him being the nice guy that he is. If you want me to identify where I got the image from, I can link you right to the source. [[User:Unicron|Unicron]] 02:59, 12 October 2009 (EDT)

== editing ==

sorry about the starscream page, but did you really have to edit out '''''everything''''' I did? [[User:Masterman555|Masterman555]] 22:54, 21 October 2009 (EDT)
:Well, yeah. You screwed up the formatting and the order of figures in the toy section, messed with captions and changed all the thumbnails to ungodly huge sizes. It's pretty standard procedure to undo that. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:14, 21 October 2009 (EDT)

== Robot Heroes Thrust eyes==
Thank you for correcting that, I just took an even closer look to the toy and realized I had made a mistake.[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 22:39, 12 November 2009 (EST)

== IDW ==

Oh come on, dude. We can take the piss out of IDW sometimes, but that last edit was a bit much.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:43, 12 November 2009 (EST)
:Not even my words there. But like a lot have said... Continuum is pretty much the straw that broke the camel's back. And really, their own page needs a dose of piss-taking-out too, no matter how slight. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:46, 12 November 2009 (EST)
What Rosi said. No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:52, 12 November 2009 (EST)

==British English spellings==
Please read [[Help:Style_guide#National_varieties_of_English]], it mentions guidelines to spelling that may help you. As Club material is published by a company based in Texas, I went with the American English. Keep British English spelling in the UK articles. [[Special:Contributions/68.61.240.172|68.61.240.172]] 10:06, 21 November 2009 (EST)

==Captions==
Detour, He-l-en has been contributing to the Armada episode articles in a generally positive manner. Please stop reverting her caption changes. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 05:27, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:Positive, yes, but thus far little more than minor summary changes in Armada... followed by large doses of captioning. I'll lay off since you asked me. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:01, 29 November 2009 (EST) (I can still change his captions to different ones if I come up with better ones, though, right?)
::I am trying to handle the situation in a delicate manner; He-l-en is both a new user and someone whose first language is not English, so we cannot immediately expect her to know every facet of our policy right away. Reverting a person's edits without telling them why is not a good way to grow new users. I'm just trying to be courteous. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 06:15, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:::Well, it's not like we don't always revert people who aren't doing anything but changing captions. He-l-en is at least also contributing a little bit of info, but we still generally tell people to leave the captions alone when they're new and just worry about adding actual info to the articles. (And it's not like we don't have plenty of Help guides available to read, either...) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 06:20, 29 November 2009 (EST)
::::''We'' know we change people's captions back, yes, but I am inclined to be more lenient to someone who has only been around for two days... hrm. Actually, I am inspired. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 06:57, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:::::His English seems to have landslided down to "nonsensical" once he started editing captions... Can I revert those, at least? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:59, 29 November 2009 (EST)

== Sideways Part-swapping pics ==

Detour-
I do have pics of the part-swapped Sideways, however I am not sure how to upload them to the Wiki and add them to the page. If you'd like, I can e-mail them to you if you PM Ultrawave over at TFW2005 (that is my account). Unless there is another way to upload them that I am not aware of? [[Special:Contributions/131.191.68.29|131.191.68.29]] 04:20, 7 December 2009 (EST)

Made a Photobucket and uploaded my pic to satisfy your curiousity-- [http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af279/Blitzgear/DSCN0897.jpg] =)[[Special:Contributions/131.191.68.29|131.191.68.29]] 18:44, 7 December 2009 (EST)

== Sari Edit ==
why did you edit my addition to the page? what i typed was factual. --[[User:0utrun|0utrun]] 23:16, 30 December 2009 (EST)

== Blackarachnia "hit it with a shovel" joke ==

Why do you deem it so important to take the joke out? It works, it fills an empty caption space, so why? Seriously, Why? --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 02:09, 6 January 2010 (EST)

== Lockdown's position as a bounty hunter. ==

This isn't something like revealing the gimmicks to a toy or an electronic voice, or even a street date. It's no secret that the ROTF figure is based off a "bounty hunter", you've seen the card say he's a "bounty hunter" regardless if it isn't officially released, is the addition of a category "Bounty Hunter" seriously enough to get you this unnecessarily riled up? It's not like I'm saying something like he's an Autobot sympathizer or something. --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 02:20, 6 January 2010 (EST)

==Captions==
No one appointed '''you''' the master of captioning. You're acting like a goddamn jackboot, so take a time-out. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 02:59, 6 January 2010 (EST)

==My Grammar==
Well i going to tell you why i have bad grammar, i have good grammar BUT i type so freaking Fast in result i make typos, Aslo there some words that i cant spell, aslo i try to slow down but then i start to write fast again -Eagc7
: Then either slow down enough so you can write competently, or don't write at all so we don't spend so much time cleaning up your amazingly-sized mess. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:38, 29 January 2010 (EST)

== Why did you remove my edit? ==

The article discusses fanfiction, so I named two common pairings as an example. It seemed relevant. [[User:CH|CH]] 16:25, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:Because the fandom is so large, fragmented and clique-esque that there's really no way to measure what's relevant/common unless it's completely widespread, as in to the point that even average fans that don't read fanfic are familiar with the concepts used. Megatron/Starscream pairings probably predate Beast Wars itself, Starscream/Alexis was a freakin' epidemic for a time. Those are somewhat "worthy" of mention (in a squicky infamous way). Prime/Mikaela and Bumblebee/Sam, however? Although I'm not shocked they exist, I don't believe the average fans would know for certain that they do. And it isn't really quite as notable (again, Starscream/Alexis being an epidemic), no more than hypothetical pairings like Cheetor/Una or Sky-Byte/Koji.. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:37, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::''Friend of Autobots''
::''Sometimes he talks to me too''
::''My spark fills with joy'' --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:18, 8 February 2010 (EST)

== Right..... ==

[http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Beast_Machines_(cartoon)&curid=15&diff=430695&oldid=430694 What was that weird edit summary all about?] --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:56, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:Look at your keyboard, and look at each letter to the left of the letter I typed. :p --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 08:12, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::It seems we use very different keyboards. All I'm getting is gibberish. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 09:32, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:::It says "something's wrong with my eyes," okay? Big hairy deal. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:38, 27 February 2010 (EST)

== Double dash template ==
Works just 100% fine on Opera and in Firefox and in IE7, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about. The whole purpose it was created was to clear things without creating gaps above the headers. So stop changing it every time I fix the formatting, as you're driving me insane and I'm going to start reverting you every time you do it. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 20:48, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:Well it doesn't work on me in neither IE nor Firefox. So clearly the coding for it must be flawed somehow. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:22, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::IIRC, you're one of the folks using IE6, aren't you? That would explain that part, if so. As for Firefox, it works fine on Firefox for me, so I just don't know what you're talking about there. (I also checked IE7 and it works fine there as well...)
::But in any case, bring it up with Derik to fix any problems rather than constantly removing it, considering the whole reason the template exists to begin with is to solve an issue folks used to be griping about. About the only issue I've ever had is that there has to be no line return space between the dash template and the following header, but that's easily tweaked while editing. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:38, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:::Yeah, I'm one of the five people on Earth still using IE6. I like the button layout better, sue me. But I do have Firefox 3.5.6 and <nowiki>{{--}}</nowiki> does the same amount of jack squattage. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:04, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::::You do realize button layouts are easily changed in most browsers, yes? (And I'd think lots of broken sites with missing features would be a bigger annoyance... having to surf using IE6 at one of my jobs last year was downright painful, it's missing so many useful standards.)
::::But, like I said, never had issues with FF at all. And even if there are, again, have Derik tweak the CSS, rather than unfixing the formatting fixes. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:13, 27 February 2010 (EST)

== *sigh* "first edit ever" ==

fact is I've been editing over the years and adding useful tid bits here and there, but the wiki just can't seem to hold a proper account. so I start a new and get treated like a punk. gratitude for ya.

And yeah, the tone really isn't to my liking. Derek J Wyatt puts down Beachcomber and everyone treats it as canon that the character is not well liked. well I like him! And think the article should be more even handed.

So tell me, how am I supposed to get started here? I can't edit "the funny" as I've been told the last time I tried a permanent account, I can't help to rewrite an article, what do you want from me? When to I earn the right to call out the Beach Comber page for being offensive? --[[User:Stly92|Stly92]] 01:15, March 18, 2010 (EST)

== Jim-Bob's Diner is indeed a reference to James Roberts ==

[[Maximum Dinobots issue 2|Jim-Bob's Diner]] is, in fact, a reference to ''Last Stand of the Wreckers'' co-writer [[James Roberts]]. Nick Roche said it himself [http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=161572#161572]. (At first, '''I''' thought--and was '''very sure'''--it was a reference to '''Jim''' Salicrup and '''Bob''' Budiansky.) --[[User:Jeff39042|Jeff39042]] 19:40, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
:Well then that belongs in the Notes... not a confusing random link in the middle of the synopsis. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:06, 11 April 2010 (EDT)

== Last Dutch Issue ==

The IP Anon [[Special:Contributions/195.240.16.74|195.240.16.74]] removed the "last Dutch issue" sentence from "[[The Void! (US)|The Void!]]" because he was shifting it to "[[On the Edge of Extinction!]]" Now, this may require verification (which is why I'm not undoing your reversal yet), but at least it's not a random act of Anon vandalism.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 11:24, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
:Yeah, I reverted it before he did the rest. I don't know who to ask for verification, though. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 11:50, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
::Looks like the anon was actually [[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] not logged in. Good enough to allow now, or do we still need a citation? Sunjumper mentions on his anon-IP talk page (linked in just above, there) where he saw mention of the last-issue status.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 13:13, 10 May 2010 (EDT)
:::If he's Dutch, sure. You're in the better position to make that call anyway. :p --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:41, 10 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Based on his recent contribution to the BW article, I'd say he his. Well and good, then.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 17:18, 10 May 2010 (EDT)

== Anon-made G1 Cast List ==

I'll grant I didn't do more than a rough glance over it, so I can't vouch for its accuracy, but it WAS in keeping with our formatting for other TV series' front pages. Granted, the cast's much larger and so may be too overwhelming a list for the page, but in principle, it wasn't a ''wrong'' idea. Might be worth adding a notice as to why the G1 TV series page would differ in that respect from other series'.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 15:29, 13 May 2010 (EDT)

== Toy Swapping ==

Look, I am sorry to keep adding tat. I just thought it was important to have in the article, because it was under the same idea. And just so you know, this whole website is full of crappy, big, poorly written sections and just want to help improve some facts not added. So you can take that comment and stick it were it belongs. I just tried to add something.

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== Toy Swapping 2 ==

I am sorry for the previous comment made by myself about the edit. I was in a really bad mood and would not tolerate anything. I will stop trying to edit or fix any articles to fix things that people deleted that I made. I do sincerly apologize. People have been quite rude to me on this website and I was starting to get stressed. Not to mention I have major anger manigment issues. I am quite sorry for my comments.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 12:37, 4 June 2010 (EDT)

== Hey. ==

Yo, be quiet bitch. {{unsigned|TheRex4441}}
:Keep it polite, please. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:39, 24 June 2010 (EDT)

== Prime VAs ==

The editor was right about Optimus & Megatron's VAs, he just didn't have the right source. (It was revealed in a recent BotCon panel.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 14:12, 26 June 2010 (EDT)

==edit war==
If this edit war does not stop in five minutes and people don't stop getting aggressive at each other, all three of you are getting a time-out. The note is pretty pointless, at best it would be only on Prime Soundwave's page. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:28, 4 July 2010 (EDT)

==Translation help==
Hey, Detour. Since you speak French, could you help me by correcting any bad translations I have for the French ''Animated'' episode titles [[User:Interrobang/Crap|here]]? Thanks! [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:24, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
:Done. Egads, epic fail on the dub team on translating Five Servos Of Doom. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:06, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
::Thanks! That was one of the titles that threw me off. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:21, 5 July 2010 (EDT)

== Cloaca joke? ==

Was there something wrong with [[Airazor (BW)|it]]? [[Special:Contributions/72.229.51.77|72.229.51.77]] 15:22, 6 July 2010 (EDT)

== Anon reverts==
When a dude changes something, and you change it back, and he changes it back with comment asking why it's changed... it might be better, if you're going to simply revert it again, to at least leave a comment of your own, explaining why? If he's explaining his actions, you owe that same courtesy back, even if he's in the wrong. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:25, 28 July 2010 (EDT)
:You're absolutely right, and I can't for the life of me remember WHY I didn't do just that. It's been hectic in my neck of the woods these past few days, I apologize. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:02, 28 July 2010 (EDT)
::Come to think of it, I think the reason might've been that I meant to leave the explanation on his talk page, but ended up being sidetracked by other things. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:03, 28 July 2010 (EDT)

== Nice caption ==

<nowiki>:</nowiki>D --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:40, 15 August 2010 (EDT)
:Hah, I was just waiting for someone to add a pic of him so I could throw add that caption. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 03:41, 15 August 2010 (EDT)

== Decepticon Drone ==

I am sorry. I thought it looked simmilar, due to the Red T visor, silver and black head, but not the body.

== [[Katsuyuki Konishi]] and [[Frank Miller]] ==

My joke(s) may be weak, but
#I wasn't violating any [[Transformers Wiki:Caption|caption policies]].
#I uploaded the [[Frank Miller]] image. I deserve a caption or something.
#[[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal#Links that overexplain jokes|Explaining the joke is not funny]].
#(Regarding the link I put at the Konishi caption):
:* A straight quote from Gurren Lagann isn't really very funny by itself.
:* Frank Miller isn't someone you'd think to find on TFWiki. I'd like to show people that he does belong here and how nteresting a coincidence it is, that ''both'' sources of the line contributed to TF. I imagine people reading the link would be like: "Oh yeah, there's also that. Wait, this wiki has an article on F. Miller? What has he got to do with TF? Gonna check that."
But really, I'm more upset about your changing of the caption at Frank Miller for reason number 2. [[User:Item42|Item42]] 10:38, 29 September 2010 (EDT)

== Why are you reverting everything? ==

Why the fuck are you reverting every single edit you see? Is that the only thing you can do? Is is your sole mission to not contribute, but revert everyone else who tries to? Sure, you could just change the singe byte of offending material, BUT NO, YOU HAVE TO REVERT THE WHOLE GODDAMN EDIT. You've been doing this for as long as I've been observing. Also, you've been up my ass about everything the whole time I've been here. Haven't you been blocked before for this kind of thing? --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 10:01, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
:Detour spends a lot of time on the wiki so he often sees poor/vandalistic edits before other editor do. Usually his reversions have been supported by the majority of editors, when he goes over the line Walky puts him in his place. My question is, why are you so sensitive? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:37, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
::If you've been up my ass too, you would see that this is the first time I've exploded over seomthing like this. I have been putting up with shit like this since I started editing here. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 10:47, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
:::I don't know, just looking over your previous edits you seemed rather upset about things on the [[Twitcher F451]], [[Derrick J. Wyatt]], [[Starscream (BWII)]] and [[Shelfwarmer]] pages. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:52, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
* WHY ARE YOU REVERTING EVERUTHING???????????????--[[User:He-l-en1959|Waz-z-z-zpinator59]] 10:15, 7 November 2010 (EST)

== Dalek ==

For your information, there is incorrect information on that page, that must be changed. The Daleks were never first called "Mark 3 travel machines" that is wrong. The were first called Daleks. The machine the ride in was first a Mark 1 Travel Machines, then a Mark 2 Travel Machine, and finally a Mark 3 Travel Machine. It was Davros who called the machine they ride in Mark 3 Travel Machine, but the creatures are called Daleks, and they were first called Kaleds before being mutated into Daleks. I don't know were the hell you got that from but they are also not cyborgs. They are creatures inside tanks basically. I was correcting that. Get your facts right before delete something I did. Trust me, I know more about the Daleks then you. Thus, my user name is LORD DALEK. That is why I am constantly changing that page. [[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 15:40, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
:Except all that is irrelevant to what was said about Daleks within ''Transformers fiction'', which is what this Wiki is about. And I know plenty about Daleks. Don't assume you're some sort of lone Doctor Who fan on this wiki.--[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:42, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

Fine, I will stop editing the part that is in the comic, BUT THE INFORMATION IN THE NOTES IS WRONG!!! And I also did not say anything about being "a lone Doctor Who fan" I just was saying you undid my edit that was correcting incorrect statements. [[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 15:52, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
: That thing Detour linked to when he reverted you sure seems to think you're wrong. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::I found two sources that go against what LordDalek is claiming. One is a general science fiction Wiki and the other is the TARDIS Index File, the Doctor Who Wiki (which we link Doctor Who-related articles to). --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:58, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::ARGG! I have proof that what you said was wrong. Look, you right, they weren't called Daleks, nor they were Mark 3 Travel Machines. They were called merely mutants. Read this:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davros|His solution is to remove all emotions pertaining to weakness, a category in which he groups such emotions as compassion, mercy and kindness, and place the mutants in tank-like "Mark III travel machines" partly based on the design of his wheelchair. He later names these creatures Daleks, an anagram of Kaleds.][[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:07, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::: Yyyyeah. You seem to be quoting the fictional history at us, while we're talking about the actual behind-the-scenes history of the characters. The comment you removed will stay. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:11, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::::Actually, from a behind-the-scenes standpoint the name Dalek came first. But Who fiction-wise, it was established in a later serial (Genesis of the Daleks, the Daleks's origin story) that the original name of a Dalek was a Mark III Travel Machine. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_of_the_Daleks "At that moment, Davros enters the laboratory, and demonstrates his new "Mark III travel machine", which he later dubs as a "Dalek"."]. If you want the note to focus less on fiction and more on production, I can always tweak it. But it's still a factual note one way or another. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:25, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
Better yet, read this: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalek_variants|For the most part a Dalek is simply a Dalek.Notable exceptions usually refer to rank, such as "Emperor" and "Supreme Dalek", although in Genesis of the Daleks Davros refers to the newly created Dalek casing as a "Mark 3 Travel Machine".] For the last bloody time, Mark 3 Travel Machines refers to the CASING not the actual creature.
[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:14, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::::Listen ItsWalky, when the Daleks first appeared in 1963 THEY WERE CALLED DALEKS. Davros is part of the fictional history, and the real creator of the Daleks was Terry Nation, and he called them Daleks. There. I now have fictional and behind the scenes evidence. The comment must be removed.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:29, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::Why would you ''ever'' want to err on the side of ''removing'' information rather than clarifying it? When is less information better?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 18:15, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

== This place is worse than Nazi Germany ==

SIEG HEIL, DON'T FUCK WITH THE LITTLE TRANSFORMER WIKIPEDIA. WE ONLY LIKE SOME POINTLESS ADDITIONS, NOT A LOT.

Fucking hypocrites. You included, Spanish twit.--[[User:Tommy-Vercetti|Tommy-Vercetti]] 18:13, 8 November 2010 (EST)
:Please mind your language. And this kind of tantrum-throwing won't exactly have people joining your side in the argument. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:18, 8 November 2010 (EST)

== Fanmodes ==

I got the impression, per the "Fan-configurations of toys" discussion in the community portal, that we ''don't'' avoid fan modes, that brief mention of such is okay. [[User:JW|JW]] 11:58, 19 November 2010 (EST)

== Koiter brothers ==

Thanks for catching that spelling error I missed on their names! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:36, 21 November 2010 (EST)

== Grimstone ==

Grimstone's drones' Mini-Con compatibilities are '''not''' mentionned on their own page.

== Ahem ==

Why did you revert my talk page edit regarding the doctor who connection on Talk:Death's Head?
NVM I see, I screwed it up.

== Emperor of Terror Scorponok ==

What's wrong with his edits? He seems to be adding several paragraphs of information, which you delete entirely. I see one or two typos here or there, but wouldn't it be easier to fix those than just remove his large amounts of work whole-hog? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:03, 16 December 2010 (EST)
:Believe me, I've been mulling over that myself, but ultimately, it's more than just typos. A lot of his sentences just don't read right and would ultimately require full rewrites. Figured someone else starting again from scratch would be better than a Cleanup tag... But if I'm wrong in this, sorry. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:23, 16 December 2010 (EST)
:: The English doesn't really read that badly. It's simple, but better than the nothing we have now. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:29, 16 December 2010 (EST)

==New mexico vs. New Mexico==
Thanks, I totally realised the mistake soon after I made the page.
[[User:MadmanFoidart|MadmanFoidart]] 14:46, 10 January 2011 (EST)

== Reverting edits ==

May I ask why you insist on reverting my edits? Especially the one just now about TransTech Megatron's concept design matching almost-perfectly to ROTF Megatron's design, which I see far more-notable than the "Oh look, it's an H-Tank, it atuomatically links to Armada Megatron" trivia listed before it, which you have left alone.

For this particular case, it is not merely my opinion that the two resemble each other more, as a quick glance at the image displayed in the trivia section, let alone what that trivia links to off-wiki, shows a closer resemblance to ROTF than Armada, by far.
[[Special:Contributions/24.143.42.51|24.143.42.51]] 02:41, 27 January 2011 (EST)
:You're right, looks like I jumped the gun at that one. My apologies. Still, it could stand a rewriting to be a little less... dogpiley. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 03:35, 27 January 2011 (EST)

== Mindset ==

You said: ''It says the toy is a retool of Hailstorm, and Hailstorm was designed as the homage.''
If the Hailstorm/Mindset mold was designed as an homage to the original Mindset, then I don't see how the new Mindset could ''not'' be an homage to the original. Particularly since, given the way Hasbro is planning retools these days, the Hailstorm mold was ''always'' intended to be retooled into a Mindset. What is the distinction you're making? [[User:JW|JW]] 20:13, 7 February 2011 (EST)
:No ressemblance to the original character, for starters. If he was "clearly" intended as an homage, the head would surely have carried over the original character's visor at the very least, yes? And the colors, too. G2 Mindset was white, green and grey, this Autobot Mindset is blue and black. And lastly, the faction allegiance. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:22, 7 February 2011 (EST)
This is how I suspect it went down:
#Hailstorm toy was designed.
#[[Kyde]] was all, hey, dudes, that's totally Mindset.
#Hasbro decided to name its redeco "Mindset."
Somewhere in between 2 and 3, Toy Fair probably happened, when Aaron was all about how this toy was totally Mindset.
--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:20, 7 February 2011 (EST)
:Hmm, okay. Point granted. [[User:JW|JW]] 07:22, 8 February 2011 (EST)

== Motormaster ==

I think the one that said Motormaster's size change is right, because Motormaster is the same size as Optimus, while Optimus has the same size as Motormaster in car mode, both of them with their trailers, i think there's size change in there.

--[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 19:24, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
:Yeah, and there's a [[Powertrain|freighter truck]] that transforms into a robot that goes up to Prime's shin. Scale doesn't mean much in Transformers, you have Porsche Jazz towering over Porsche Cliffjumper and Jeep Hound towering over Jeep Brawn and F-15s turning into robots the same size as Lamborghinis. It's a dumb thing to note. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:39, 14 March 2011 (EDT)

== Windcharger ==

"This was removed before because it's false. Don't add it back" How is it false?--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 23:09, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

==Bumblebee==
BOTH of you knock it the fuck off or you're both getting put in a corner for a while. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:45, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

== DOTM Bumblebee ==

Just to clear things up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpqamRtmGRE&feature=feedu the maker of the video says:
because this figure is smaller than any other version of bumblebee, they technically are all brand new parts. They couldn't reuse any other Bumblebee parts cause they no longer would fit.--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 15:33, 25 March 2011 (EDT)

==If you don't like Robert Stack==

You should say so when you're taking funny things he said from the Ultra Magnus page. It's not as if the image even had a caption before, could you not have left it? I ask because since you didn't give a reason, it ''looks'' like you revert all IP edits you see on principle, without checking what was actually changed. Busy schedule? [[Special:Contributions/92.13.226.232|92.13.226.232]] 19:48, 5 April 2011 (EDT)
:Detour doesn't always check properly what an anon added, but he does check. On captions, the rules are very clear though: If you have not contributed to the wiki in a meaningful way, you are NOT allowed to add or change captions UNLESS you have asked permission first on the article's talk page. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 02:00, 6 April 2011 (EDT)

== Inferno (BW) ==

May I just ask why did you undo the caption edit?
: Because you replaced an existing caption with a YouTube link. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:09, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
:: Are YouTubes links forbidden? I do believe I saw them in captions on this Wiki before. --[[User:SymbolsWriter|SymbolsWriter]]
::: Well, first there's the problem of ''replacing an existing caption.'' It's frowned upon. Second, a little '''[1]''' under an image isn't a caption. It's just a link. It's not pretty or witty, it's just an unmarked link. Captions should be captions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
:::: Well, yes, I suspected (now I know for sure) that much (the "frown upon" part), and that's (partially, anyway) the reason I've never edited a caption before. But no, wait, I was pretty sure that when I checked the article after the edit there was blue text "nope.avi" in the caption that was a link to a video, not just "[1]". Or am I missing something? --[[User:SymbolsWriter|SymbolsWriter]] 14:59, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
::::Also, to further clarify things, I'll give this link: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/nopeavi You can even find the screenshot the caption of which I changed in the related pictures there. I hope that article will be clear enough explanation of my motive to change the aforementioned caption. --[[User:SymbolsWriter|SymbolsWriter]] 02:29, 13 April 2011 (EDT)

== Regarding the edits Eagc7 made ==

Apparently you haven't read the [[Megatron (Movie)]] article in awhile, because Eagc7 was just trying to help out. [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Megatron_%28Movie%29&diff=484337&oldid=481886 Xaaron made this edit] almost a year ago, most likely because nobody bothered to fill out that section since 2007. Nobody objected. Eagc7 evidently noticed this and was trying to make the other articles consistent. I think you should have questioned his motives before insta-reverting them. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:37, 12 April 2011 (EDT)

== Mech-Tech page ==

The only reason it was "Just a list copied from the DOTM page" is because he HADN'T FINISHED THE PAGE YET --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 16:08, 12 April 2011 (EDT)
:It shouldn't be a list, it should be a description of the gimmick, like our [[Automorph Technology]] and [[Mech Alive]] pages, that's why it's tagged, it's even explained in the tag. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:14, 12 April 2011 (EDT)

== Fusion Cannon ==

You have undone my edit of Movie Megatron's fusion cannon twice now and I am wondering why? In the 2007 movie at 1:57:13 you can clearly see Megatron shoot Jazz with his fusion cannon from his RIGHT arm. I just watched it, so I know I am correct. If you have a good reason for undoing my edits, let me know, but until then I am just going to keep changing it back. --[[User:BATTOUSAI XD|BATTOUSAI XD]] 02:43, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
:You didn't watch well enough. That's '''Jazz''' shooting Megatron, not the other way around. By contrast, Megatron's fusion cannon is clearly in his left arm, as you see Prime shoot him off balance before he fires, but he turns around, cannon clearly on his left arm, re-aims and shoots. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:05, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
Sorry but you didn't watch well enough. '''Jazz''' does fire first, then '''Megatron''' fires and Jazz goes flying. I haven't watched the battle with Optimus recently, so it may be that Megatron also has a fusion cannon in his left arm as well and can combine both to make them more powerful. --[[User:BATTOUSAI XD|BATTOUSAI XD]] 10:00, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
Maybe it's a different weapons system, but do you have any evidence to back that up? I'm assuming you have finally accepted that Megatron does shoot Jazz with his right arm and you watched the entire scene. The blast was blue like the blast from the combined fusion cannon and his fusion cannon from ROTF ,and it was very powerful, as it sent Jazz flying much in the same way as it did to Optimus in ROTF. Also, he lost his left arm at the end of the first movie, and if it were solely stored in his left arm, it would not have been present in ROTF. It's probably pretty safe to assume that "the Little One," who provided Megatron with parts did not possess a fusion cannon and the "Doctor" did not build a completely new one. IF you can come up with a better arguement than that or provide some official source material, I'll leave it alone, but if you keep using an ambiguous arguement I'll just keep editing the article.
:Do you have any evidence that it '''is''' his fusion cannon? A single blast from said cannon sent Optimus Prime, OPTIMUS PRIME, flying over a full city block into a building, while Jazz barely flew a few feet. But hey, for added evidence, [http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t285/Detour84/TF/vlcsnap-2011-04-26-01h56m39s185.png this] does not look like either [http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t285/Detour84/TF/vlcsnap-2011-04-26-01h57m49s50.png this] or [http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t285/Detour84/TF/vlcsnap-2011-04-26-01h58m11s5.png this]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:01, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
No I don't have any evidence that it is a fusion cannon, but I think there is a better argument for it being a fusion cannon than not, as I stated above. And yes Jazz did only fly a few feet, but maybe that's because the fusion cannon was not at full power because it was not combined with Megatron's left arm. As for the pictures, they don't look anything like the crab claw fusion cannon, yet that is still a fusion cannon. I'm not trying to jerk you around; this is just how I see it and a lot of this is just opinion because Hasbro or whoever hasn't officially detailed anything. Maybe we could ask someone else who edits this Wiki for their opinion on it and just go with that?
:That doesn't work, because as my screenshots show, the fusion cannon is ''entirely part of Megatron's left arm''. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:23, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
How does that explain how his fusion cannon moved from his left arm to his right arm? I don't see the problem with what I wrote, because it leaves the statement you wrote about the fusion cannon being stored in the left arm and it touches on the blast that was fired at Jazz with his right arm. It says nowhere that it '''is''' definitely a fusion cannon. All I wanted to write was that there is a possiblility that his right arm is a fusion cannon, or at least part of a whole. The scene with Jazz is up for interpretation, but I think it should be added so others who read this article can decide for themselves. As far as getting someone else's opinion, you will have to get someone to help with that. I don't know how to ask any of the main editors and I assume you probably do. Just have them comment in this section with an opinion on it.--[[User:BATTOUSAI XD|BATTOUSAI XD]] 1:39, 26 April 2011 (EDT)

==why didnt you jsut fixed it?==
instead of removing all i wrote on the movie Starscream page, why didnt you just Fixed my typos and mistakes? {{unsigned|Eagc7}}
:Because I couldn't even understand what it was you were trying to say. Your poor English goes far beyond simple spelling errors. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:46, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
::Okay, in that case, lets keep a Character Stub template (which i already did) {{unsigned|Eagc7}}

== Dude, STOP. NOW. ==

Abra cannot learn Hypnosis. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 23:19, 28 April 2011 (EDT)
: Seriously, you are now the wiki's worst vandal. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:31, 28 April 2011 (EDT)

== The Autobot Hero ==

I had thought of reverting his edit to Fire on the Mountain the same as you did, but decided against it as the internal link was a redlink. Are we planning on having an [[Andes Mountains]] page? If not, he actually did the right thing. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:13, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
:Well, [[Peru]] wasn't a redlink. Standard seems to be that locations where stuff happens in fiction deserve wiki articles. The Andes mountains do come up in both Fire in the Mountain and the Japanese PS2 Transformers game, so the location deserves a proper TFWiki article, IMO. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:17, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
::And the Kid Stuff audiobooks have the Andes partially destroyed in "Storms of Destruction". [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:48, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
:::Thanks for that! Added the link to it too. I'd love to make a page for it (being the huge Mysterious Cities of Gold nerd that I am) but since I don't have access to any of the material they show up in, there isn't much I can do. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:56, 6 May 2011 (EDT)

==Editing==
I read the "Help:Editing" page.-[[User:Dirgeor|Dirgeor]] 20:02, 19 June 2011 (EDT)

== Crowbar ==
I'm quite not sure why you removed my photo of Crowbar. Can you please tell me?
:Because it's a horrible shot that barely shows Crowbar at all, if that's even him. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:05, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
It is him, you can clearly see Crankcase in another shot. I can understand that the shot wasn't great, but it's better than an inaccurate representation of him in Cyberverse form.

== Crisscross "Error" ==

Rather than risk a revert war, I'll simply discuss the matter here first.

If the package was delivered to the garage while Arcee was away for some unknown length of time, why should she question its origin? I still say someone from MECH could have broken into the garage, delivered the package, and locked up on their way out, thus accounting for the package's presence. (Yes, it's something of an error not to explain it in-story, but I think that's at least a feasible explanation.)--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 02:05, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
: That's how I read the sequence of events. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 04:01, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
: You make some good points. But after even two watchings the whole thing still felt weird. When you stop and think about it, only Jack or June could've taken care of the package... If Arcee assumes June has... she'd know Arcee wasn't in the garage. So... why's she so casual about the package? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:06, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
:: My postman leaves packages in my garage all the time if I'm not there to take delivery, honestly. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 05:01, 29 June 2011 (EDT)

== Editing ==
Can we please discuss our debates before filing pages for deletion? I have a strong argument. Please just listen to me.
-[[User:PurpleCyclops|Caleb]]
:No. You don't. Preliminary names are just that, '''preliminary'''. We're not calling Mirage "Rush", and the same applies to Crowbar and Hatchet. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:18, 3 July 2011 (EDT)
Rush isn't the final name for Mirage. Hatchet is a typhoon fighter jet. Crowbar is a Carbon Motors E7 Police car. The trio in the film are suburbans. This is not the case of renaming them. This is the case of '''different character'''.
:No, this is the case of '''different altmodes'''. Do we consider Sideways anyone but Sideways? Because his toy sure as hell wasn't a screen-accurate Audi, and didn't even use the proper color scheme. You're being utterly ridiculous. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:38, 3 July 2011 (EDT)

I was saying that the characters were most likely different since they hadn't the right altmode or altmode size, since Hatchet would be much too big to be a suburban, if he was a jet, and Crowbar would be too small if he was a police car. Sorry bout everything though, I agree, my argument '''is''' ridiculous.

== Joke ==
By reference, I meant a reference to something. A joke. Jokes aren't meant to be useful. And this wiki is full of them. One on almost every image. Which isn't very useful, when they could have a informative caption. But that's one of my favorite things about this wiki. It's humor. Once again, I find you reverting anything I post. Can't I just add a simple joke that can appeal to some people, without attracting the attention of you?
:It's humor, yes, but it's still a wiki. Signal to noise ratio is the key here, and smashing a bad joke about train delays in the first sentence of Astrotrain's bio isn't the way to go about it. Signal to noise, the wiki must be funny but also informative. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 05:21, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

You do have a point. I agree it is still a wiki, and it's not that informative. However you kind of missed the joke. A popular quote in a T.V. show about trains from my childhood was when the person would scold the train, he would say "you've caused confusion and delay". Nothing to do with train delays.

== Spam ==

Does [[User talk:Dynamic|THIS]] count as Spam?--[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 15:39, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
:Not really. Spam is more people and/or bots trying to scam people with advertisements. Dynamic's talk page doesn't fall into that. I'm not sure what he's trying to do, either he's trying to share an easter egg with the wiki or he's trying to spark a discussion, either way it's not really spam. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:16, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
== Volume Number ==
Woops, sorry about that. After that anon troll was just going around changing tiny things on the year pages, I ended up with a bit of an itchy trigger finger. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:13, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

== Dave Fennoy Picture ==

Hi There. Could you find a picture of [[Dave Fennoy]] for his page?

== Doctor Arkeville in sound and furry ==

When the Hot Dog Bot rebels the man he is serving has the distinct rounded triangle jaw and mad scientist like hair style of G1 villain Doctor Arkeville. can you tell me anouther human character in either show has one of these characteristics yet he has both of them, it is pretty clear he is a homage to the classic decepticon allied human please stop reverting this
:Yeah, and I suppose Doc Brown is a Doctor Arkeville homage too? It's very common for old men to their hair up top, have their hair lose color and get a longer jaw. Just because one incidental character sported those features doesn't automatically mean HOMAGE. Please stop grasping at straws. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:37, 10 October 2011 (EDT)

:Doc Brown did not have a triangular rounded jaw and as for the hair several scientist in fiction have it as homage to Albert Einstein. However I am not aware of any other transformers characters that this hair style. Plus I have never seen or heard of anyone getting a longer jaw when they got older. It is not grasping at straws as much as seeing a comparison somebody made between the two and adding it here.
::No metal hat & hand = No Arkeville. --Thy2k, not logged in

== Found cosmos art from official artist! ==

I found some art of cosmy! should we replace the main page now? its from the official artist's deviantart page, sides we got most of the moving violations character photos from devianart too. for cosmos art see link http://tehkoreandude.deviantart.com/gallery/24312266#/d3lnp2f --User:Jazzerprime
:That's not official Transformers art. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 05:31, 11 October 2011 (EDT)

== Tell me ==

Do you actually look at people's edits before you revert them? --[[User:TheOnlyChoice|TheOnlyChoice]] 04:13, 16 October 2011 (EDT)
:Yes. And you only had two edits the last one a month ago, before suddenly declaring yourself the lord of what's sucky or not. And I HATE the JEWS! --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:22, 16 October 2011 (EDT)

== It's true. ==

If they hadn't fallen in because of the surge, five seconds later, it would have turned them into transmetals and the lava wouldn't have had any more effect than a hot bath. If that doesn't describe irony, nothing does. [[Special:Contributions/70.77.36.81|70.77.36.81]] 20:40, 30 October 2011 (EDT)
:I don't recall lava immunity being a Transmetal power. Just because Tarantulas survived it doesn't mean everyone else can, nor dor it indicate that survival was directly due to Transmetalness. Also, noting it purely out of "irony" is like saying it's ironic Ironhide's shuttle was on an Energon run because if they weren't low on Energon they would've survived the Decepticon attack. It's silly and pointless. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:44, 30 October 2011 (EDT)

== Can you Remove ==
Can you remove "Luis Daniel Ramírez" page, since it seems this guy Arturo Castañeda is going to be Jack Darby voice in the spanish dub of Prime {{unsigned|Eagc7}}
:Sorry, I'm not a mod or an admin here so I don't have the power to do this. I'll tag it for deletion, though, if that help. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:28, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

Barack Obama

2011-11-05T00:44:22Z

86.169.14.246: /* Notes */

United Kingdom

2011-11-05T00:42:16Z

86.169.14.246: /* Generation 1 */

[[image:UK Grimlock.gif|frame|''And did those feet in ancient time...'']]
The '''United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland''' (also '''Region 2''') is a strange, possibly allegorical, land where pants are called trousers, underwear are called pants, women run the government, Batman kidnaps children, state-sponsored media is popular instead of elitist, vinegar is a condiment, and they have good rock and roll.

Also, they spell things funny and their [[Wikipedia:PAL|bizarro-DVD]]s won't play in real DVD players. ''Spooky''.

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics===
====Generation 1====
{{noteukonly}}
[[Image:Man of iron and knights.jpg|right|250px|thumb|"Oh bollocks, an immigrant! Kick him out! ''British Jobs for British Workers!''"..."Or we can Bomb his home land like the USA would."]]
Some time in the past, the [[Man of Iron (Autobot)|Man of Iron]] and his [[Navigator]] came to [[Earth]] while searching for the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] and left their ship beneath the area that would one day become [[Stansham]]. There they remained, though the Man of Iron would occasionally leave the ship to visit the surface - in 1017 he encountered [[human]]s, including [[Godwin the Strongarm]] and [[Aethelric]], and a further two sightings were recorded.

In 1984 a beacon from the ship attracted the attention of the earthbound [[Autobot]]s and they took a [[Ark shuttlecraft|shuttle]] to the United Kingdom to investigate. Upon arrival, [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] kidnapped a human named [[Sammy Harker]] to provide the Autobots with intelligence about the local area, but they were attacked by the [[Decepticon]]s, who had also followed the beacon to its source.

As battle raged above Stansham Castle, the Man of Iron emerged from his ship once more, only to be blown up by [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]]. Jazz destroyed the ship (inadvertently killing the Navigator) and the [[Transformer]]s left the United Kindgom. {{storylink|Man of Iron (story)|Man of Iron}}

''About a year later they would return, seeking the source of an energy transmission that caused aspects of their personalities to reverse. Tracing the signal to a secret research facility Jazz and [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] fought over [[Zeke Heilmann]], a human who was stealing the core of [[Purnel's Auto-Reverse Defence|PARD]] for his own nefarious purposes. In the ensuing battle both Zeke and the device were destroyed by Jazz.'' {{storylink|To a Power Unknown!}}

''By 1987, the country was the home of the [[Europe|European]] branch of international anti-terrorism taskforce [[Action Force (team)|Action Force]]; their field leader [[Flint (G.I. Joe)|Flint]] was an English soldier. They ended up battling alongside [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]], [[Blades (G1)|Blades]] and [[Centurion (Marvel)|Centurion]] against a raging [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] ([[Straxus (G1)|or so they thought]]) in [[London]]'s docklands. Centurion and Megatron fell into the [[Thames|River Thames]].'' {{storylink|Ancient Relics!}}

''[[Richard Branson]] attempted to fish out the remains, only for [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] and the [[Seacon (G1)|Seacons]] to swipe his catch.'' {{storylink|Salvage!}}

In 1990, Shockwave emerged from the sea off the coast of [[Blackpool]] where he paused only to squash a tramp and his dog before leaving for [[New Jersey (Earth)|New Jersey]] to spy on [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]. {{storylink|Dark Creation}} He later set up his Decepticon dissident base there. {{storylink|Surrender!}}

====Fleetway Generation 2 comics====
[[Image:London_war_without_end_uk.jpg|left|thumb|200px|The Metropolitan Police handle a protest in their calm and reasoned manner.]]

In 1994, [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] led his forces to attack London with the intention of attracting [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. The damage to the city was severe; even the Houses of Parliament were bombed. Optimus defeated Bludgeon only to face a returned Megatron, who handed his [[Anatomic euphemism|skidplate]] to him. Before he could finish off his old adversary, Megatron was attacked by Bludgeon's troops and Optimus was rescued by the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]]. The arrival of Jazz's group forced Megatron to escape with Starscream and Prime declared victory, though he advocated that the Autobots vacate the area to escape any human retaliation. {{storylink|War Without End (issue)|War Without End}} {{storylink|War Zone}}
{{-}}

====Marvel Generation 2 comics====
[[London]] was one of the cities hit in the Decepticons' global slaughter. {{storylink|The Gathering Darkness}}

===Generation 1 cartoon===
====American continuity====
[[Image:Raiderdragonvsautobots.jpg|right|200px|thumb|"Just ignore the [[dragon]] and he'll go away."]]

[[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|A]] [[Rumble (G1)|group]] [[Ravage (G1)|of]] [[Ramjet (G1)|Decepticons]], the Autobots [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] and [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]], and [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]]. ended up time-travelling to England in the 6th Century. Starscream got involved in a spat between local Sirs [[Wigend du Blackthorne]] and [[Aetheling the Red]] before seizing control from the former and attempting to conquer the latter's fiefdom, as well as messing about with history by creating gunpowder in Europe centuries early. Luckily, Spike and the Autobots stopped him.

We also learned England possesses the time-travelling site known as [[Dragon Mound]], that plate armour existed ''far'' earlier than stuffy historians and their "facts" would tell us, and that [[Dragon|dragons existed naturally in England]]. {{storylink|A Decepticon Raider in King Arthur's Court}}

In the 20th Century the country had the dubious honour of big-game hunter and national stereotype [[Chumley|Lord Chumley]] causing an international incident when he stole a [[Daina|top secret Soviet jet]]. The Autobots sorted it out and made a mess of his castle. {{storylink|Prime Target (episode)|Prime Target}}
{{-}}

====Japanese continuity====
[[Image:Roadking masterforce.jpg|left|200px|thumb|A British sport star. Not pictured: [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8141300.stm the News Of The World tapping his phone].]]

Strangely, by this point in time, Britain was covered with the type of thick fog that hadn't been seen since the 1950s. It's almost like someone hadn't done any research.

[[Sixshot]] blackmailed the UK to hand over its energy or he would devastate London. It didn't, so he did. {{storylink|Terror! The Six Shadows}}

The [[Godmaster]] [[Lightfoot]], heir to [[British Motors]], was born in Britain. His father was unable to start a car company in England and so moved to that land of enterprise, [[Canada]]. {{storylink|Lightfoot: A Dramatic Encounter}} Champion racer and fellow Godmaster [[Road King]] also originated from the UK, having the nickname "the British Wolf".

Flight 308 from [[Mont Porte]] was captured by [[Blood]] off the coast of England, in the Strait of Dover. {{storylink|Kidnapping!? The Targeted Jumbo Jet}} Violating UK airspace was apparently a laugh, as the Decepticon [[Godmaster]] jets [[Hydra (Masterforce)|Hydra]] and [[Buster (Masterforce)|Buster]] had fun zooming over London at high speeds before heading on to [[Japan]]. {{storylink|Super Warriors - The Godmaster Brothers}}
{{-}}

===Young Corgi===
The United Kingdom would presumably be part of the [[Federation of Western Europe]], something the EEC will turn into in the near future of 2000. {{storylink|Battle Beneath the Ice}}

===Unicron Trilogy===
====Energon====
In the peaceful inter-war period, the Autobots built [[Plains City]] in England. It wasn't actually on a plain. {{storylink|Unicron Trilogy guidebooks}}

====Cybertron====
While looking for the [[Omega Lock]], the Autobots dug up around an ancient druid site. The area briefly became a battleground when [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]] and [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]] attacked. {{storylink|Space}}

Later, Starscream's [[Ancient Decepticon]] army swarmed in the skies of the nation, spreading panic. {{storylink|Invasion}}

===Live-action ''Transformers'' movie continuity===
====IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics====
[[Image:RotF Bendy Bus Prime.jpg|thumb|300px|right|]]

[[Diego Garcia]], a British overseas territory and home to a joint UK-[[United States military|US]] military base, was used as a training facility for [[NEST]] and base for Autobots. {{storylink|Alliance issue 3|Alliance #3}} British armed forces eventually became part of NEST and helped destroy the Decepticon [[Overcast (Movie)|Overcast]]. {{storylink|Alliance issue 4|Alliance #4}}

====Titan Magazines====
The Orkney Islands are home to a NEST base, and noted as a forward operating location. The base contains a training facility for Autobots. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.4|New Tricks}}

====''Revenge of the Fallen'' film====
An unknown number of British Army soldiers served in NEST, at least one who would get killed in battle. [[Graham|SASF Agent Graham]], a special forces operative, was part of [[William Lennox|Major Lennox]]'s NEST command structure; like most of NEST, he trusted the Autobots. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

====''Dark of the Moon'' film====
[[Carly Spencer]] was British, and worked for the UK embassy when she first met [[Sam Witwicky]]. {{storylink|Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}

====Merchandise====
[[Bendy-Bus Prime]] landed in [[London]] and took the form of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articulated_buses_in_London a bendy bus].

===Shattered Glass===
The British want to invade the United States. Boo, hiss! Don't be too concerned, though. The queen knows that bombing land she wants to conquer is VERY counter-productive. Wonder why no one else thought of that. {{storylink|Eye in the Sky}}

===Animated===
By the 22nd century, [[Wales]] was no longer a part of the UK and had become a US State. At some prior point, diplomatic relations between the US and UK were broken. President [[Benito Caruso]] is responsible for restoring those ties.{{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II}}

==Notes==
* By strange coincidence, a number of Transformers (including the entire planet of [[Gigantion]]) have accents identical to some of those in the United Kingdom!
* In 2009 Gordon Brown, [[Democracy|the Prime Minister]], made a public appeal for [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] to come and solve the country's problems, to which the Conservative Party responded Brown had "more in common with the Decepticons".<ref>[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/labour/4208838/Browns-hero-is-Transformer-Optimus-Prime.html Daily Telegraph report]</ref> (This probably makes the Liberal Democrats the [[Mini-Con]]s and the BNP [[The Fallen]]...)
* The UK has produced several Transformers comics, including the long running [[Marvel Comics|Marvel UK]] ''Transformers'' title, which reprinted (sometimes with edits) American Marvel comics and created new stories around them. It's never had the same success yet, though it has made comics based on [[Generation 2 (Fleetway comic)|''Generation 2'']], [[Armada (Panini comic)|''Armada'']], [[Transformers (Titan Magazine)|the live-action films]], and [[Transformers Animated (Titan)|''Animated'']]. If that wasn't enough transforming robots, it also published a strip based on the ''[[GoBots (franchise)|GoBots]]'' under their ''Robo Machine'' branding!<ref>http://counter-x.net/gobots/comic/robo_machines/</ref>
* The UK also produced "strategically shaved ape" [[Simon Furman]], who's been known to write the odd Transformers-related thing.
* The word "[[Slag (disambiguation)|slag]]" is considered offensive in the UK (you wouldn't want your sister to be described as one). This has caused [[Beast Wars (cartoon)|some]] TV shows to be (very badly) edited to avoid use of the term (although strangely not [[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|all]]), and at least one [[Snarl (Animated)|character name]] change on both sides of the Atlantic. Thanks a lot.
* We have DVD boxsets of ''[[Robots in Disguise (cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]'', ''<strike>[[Super-God_Masterforce (cartoon)|Masterforce]]</strike>'', ''<strike>[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (cartoon)|Victory]]</strike>'' and [[Enter the New Supreme_Commander, Dai Atlas!|''Zone'']], and you Yanks still don't. Ahhh ha ha ha HA.
* The UK is still waiting for more than two super-cheap DVDs for ''Beast Wars'', though. :(
* At least our DVDs are better than the ones the [[Germany|Jerries]] have, take that Fritz!

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Great Britain oyobi Hokubu Ireland Rengo Ōkoku''' (グレートブリテン及び北部アイルランド連合王国), '''Eikoku''' (英国), '''Igirisu''' (イギリス)<ref>The names "Eikoku" and "Igirisu" technically only refer to England, but are more often used to represent to the UK as a whole.</ref>

== Footnotes ==
{{reflist}}

{{stub}}

[[Category:European countries]]
[[Category:Generation 1 locations]]
[[Category:Generation 2 locations]]
[[Category:Movie locations]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen locations]]
[[Category:Super-God Masterforce locations]]
[[Category:The Headmasters locations]]

Barack Obama

2011-11-04T22:14:35Z

86.169.14.246: /* Notes */

United Kingdom

2011-11-04T22:11:59Z

86.169.14.246: /* Generation 1 */

[[image:UK Grimlock.gif|frame|''And did those feet in ancient time...'']]
The '''United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland''' (also '''Region 2''') is a strange, possibly allegorical, land where pants are called trousers, underwear are called pants, women run the government, Batman kidnaps children, state-sponsored media is popular instead of elitist, vinegar is a condiment, and they have good rock and roll.

Also, they spell things funny and their [[Wikipedia:PAL|bizarro-DVD]]s won't play in real DVD players. ''Spooky''.

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics===
====Generation 1====
{{noteukonly}}
[[Image:Man of iron and knights.jpg|right|250px|thumb|"Oh bollocks, an immigrant! Kick him out! ''British Jobs for British Workers!''" Or we can Bomb his home land like the USA would.]]
Some time in the past, the [[Man of Iron (Autobot)|Man of Iron]] and his [[Navigator]] came to [[Earth]] while searching for the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] and left their ship beneath the area that would one day become [[Stansham]]. There they remained, though the Man of Iron would occasionally leave the ship to visit the surface - in 1017 he encountered [[human]]s, including [[Godwin the Strongarm]] and [[Aethelric]], and a further two sightings were recorded.

In 1984 a beacon from the ship attracted the attention of the earthbound [[Autobot]]s and they took a [[Ark shuttlecraft|shuttle]] to the United Kingdom to investigate. Upon arrival, [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] kidnapped a human named [[Sammy Harker]] to provide the Autobots with intelligence about the local area, but they were attacked by the [[Decepticon]]s, who had also followed the beacon to its source.

As battle raged above Stansham Castle, the Man of Iron emerged from his ship once more, only to be blown up by [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]]. Jazz destroyed the ship (inadvertently killing the Navigator) and the [[Transformer]]s left the United Kindgom. {{storylink|Man of Iron (story)|Man of Iron}}

''About a year later they would return, seeking the source of an energy transmission that caused aspects of their personalities to reverse. Tracing the signal to a secret research facility Jazz and [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] fought over [[Zeke Heilmann]], a human who was stealing the core of [[Purnel's Auto-Reverse Defence|PARD]] for his own nefarious purposes. In the ensuing battle both Zeke and the device were destroyed by Jazz.'' {{storylink|To a Power Unknown!}}

''By 1987, the country was the home of the [[Europe|European]] branch of international anti-terrorism taskforce [[Action Force (team)|Action Force]]; their field leader [[Flint (G.I. Joe)|Flint]] was an English soldier. They ended up battling alongside [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]], [[Blades (G1)|Blades]] and [[Centurion (Marvel)|Centurion]] against a raging [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] ([[Straxus (G1)|or so they thought]]) in [[London]]'s docklands. Centurion and Megatron fell into the [[Thames|River Thames]].'' {{storylink|Ancient Relics!}}

''[[Richard Branson]] attempted to fish out the remains, only for [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] and the [[Seacon (G1)|Seacons]] to swipe his catch.'' {{storylink|Salvage!}}

In 1990, Shockwave emerged from the sea off the coast of [[Blackpool]] where he paused only to squash a tramp and his dog before leaving for [[New Jersey (Earth)|New Jersey]] to spy on [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]. {{storylink|Dark Creation}} He later set up his Decepticon dissident base there. {{storylink|Surrender!}}

====Fleetway Generation 2 comics====
[[Image:London_war_without_end_uk.jpg|left|thumb|200px|The Metropolitan Police handle a protest in their calm and reasoned manner.]]

In 1994, [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] led his forces to attack London with the intention of attracting [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. The damage to the city was severe; even the Houses of Parliament were bombed. Optimus defeated Bludgeon only to face a returned Megatron, who handed his [[Anatomic euphemism|skidplate]] to him. Before he could finish off his old adversary, Megatron was attacked by Bludgeon's troops and Optimus was rescued by the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]]. The arrival of Jazz's group forced Megatron to escape with Starscream and Prime declared victory, though he advocated that the Autobots vacate the area to escape any human retaliation. {{storylink|War Without End (issue)|War Without End}} {{storylink|War Zone}}
{{-}}

====Marvel Generation 2 comics====
[[London]] was one of the cities hit in the Decepticons' global slaughter. {{storylink|The Gathering Darkness}}

===Generation 1 cartoon===
====American continuity====
[[Image:Raiderdragonvsautobots.jpg|right|200px|thumb|"Just ignore the [[dragon]] and he'll go away."]]

[[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|A]] [[Rumble (G1)|group]] [[Ravage (G1)|of]] [[Ramjet (G1)|Decepticons]], the Autobots [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] and [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]], and [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]]. ended up time-travelling to England in the 6th Century. Starscream got involved in a spat between local Sirs [[Wigend du Blackthorne]] and [[Aetheling the Red]] before seizing control from the former and attempting to conquer the latter's fiefdom, as well as messing about with history by creating gunpowder in Europe centuries early. Luckily, Spike and the Autobots stopped him.

We also learned England possesses the time-travelling site known as [[Dragon Mound]], that plate armour existed ''far'' earlier than stuffy historians and their "facts" would tell us, and that [[Dragon|dragons existed naturally in England]]. {{storylink|A Decepticon Raider in King Arthur's Court}}

In the 20th Century the country had the dubious honour of big-game hunter and national stereotype [[Chumley|Lord Chumley]] causing an international incident when he stole a [[Daina|top secret Soviet jet]]. The Autobots sorted it out and made a mess of his castle. {{storylink|Prime Target (episode)|Prime Target}}
{{-}}

====Japanese continuity====
[[Image:Roadking masterforce.jpg|left|200px|thumb|A British sport star. Not pictured: [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8141300.stm the Jews Of The World tapping his phone].]]

Strangely, by this point in time, Britain was covered with the type of thick fog that hadn't been seen since the 1950s. It's almost like someone hadn't done any research.

[[Sixshot]] blackmailed the UK to hand over its energy or he would devastate London. It didn't, so he did. {{storylink|Terror! The Six Shadows}}

The [[Godmaster]] [[Lightfoot]], heir to [[British Motors]], was born in Britain. His father was unable to start a car company in England and so moved to that land of enterprise, [[Canada]]. {{storylink|Lightfoot: A Dramatic Encounter}} Champion racer and fellow Godmaster [[Road King]] also originated from the UK, having the nickname "the British Wolf".

Flight 308 from [[Mont Porte]] was captured by [[Blood]] off the coast of England, in the Strait of Dover. {{storylink|Kidnapping!? The Targeted Jumbo Jet}} Violating UK airspace was apparently a laugh, as the Decepticon [[Godmaster]] jets [[Hydra (Masterforce)|Hydra]] and [[Buster (Masterforce)|Buster]] had fun zooming over London at high speeds before heading on to [[Japan]]. {{storylink|Super Warriors - The Godmaster Brothers}}
{{-}}

===Young Corgi===
The United Kingdom would presumably be part of the [[Federation of Western Europe]], something the EEC will turn into in the near future of 2000. {{storylink|Battle Beneath the Ice}}

===Unicron Trilogy===
====Energon====
In the peaceful inter-war period, the Autobots built [[Plains City]] in England. It wasn't actually on a plain. {{storylink|Unicron Trilogy guidebooks}}

====Cybertron====
While looking for the [[Omega Lock]], the Autobots dug up around an ancient druid site. The area briefly became a battleground when [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]] and [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]] attacked. {{storylink|Space}}

Later, Starscream's [[Ancient Decepticon]] army swarmed in the skies of the nation, spreading panic. {{storylink|Invasion}}

===Live-action ''Transformers'' movie continuity===
====IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics====
[[Image:RotF Bendy Bus Prime.jpg|thumb|300px|right|]]

[[Diego Garcia]], a British overseas territory and home to a joint UK-[[United States military|US]] military base, was used as a training facility for [[NEST]] and base for Autobots. {{storylink|Alliance issue 3|Alliance #3}} British armed forces eventually became part of NEST and helped destroy the Decepticon [[Overcast (Movie)|Overcast]]. {{storylink|Alliance issue 4|Alliance #4}}

====Titan Magazines====
The Orkney Islands are home to a NEST base, and noted as a forward operating location. The base contains a training facility for Autobots. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.4|New Tricks}}

====''Revenge of the Fallen'' film====
An unknown number of British Army soldiers served in NEST, at least one who would get killed in battle. [[Graham|SASF Agent Graham]], a special forces operative, was part of [[William Lennox|Major Lennox]]'s NEST command structure; like most of NEST, he trusted the Autobots. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

====''Dark of the Moon'' film====
[[Carly Spencer]] was British, and worked for the UK embassy when she first met [[Sam Witwicky]]. {{storylink|Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}

====Merchandise====
[[Bendy-Bus Prime]] landed in [[London]] and took the form of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articulated_buses_in_London a bendy bus].

===Shattered Glass===
The British want to invade the United States. Boo, hiss! Don't be too concerned, though. The queen knows that bombing land she wants to conquer is VERY counter-productive. Wonder why no one else thought of that. {{storylink|Eye in the Sky}}

===Animated===
By the 22nd century, [[Wales]] was no longer a part of the UK and had become a US State. At some prior point, diplomatic relations between the US and UK were broken. President [[Benito Caruso]] is responsible for restoring those ties.{{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II}}

==Notes==
* By strange coincidence, a number of Transformers (including the entire planet of [[Gigantion]]) have accents identical to some of those in the United Kingdom!
* In 2009 Gordon Brown, [[Democracy|the Prime Minister]], made a public appeal for [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] to come and solve the country's problems, to which the Conservative Party responded Brown had "more in common with the Decepticons".<ref>[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/labour/4208838/Browns-hero-is-Transformer-Optimus-Prime.html Daily Telegraph report]</ref> (This probably makes the Liberal Democrats the [[Mini-Con]]s and the BNP [[The Fallen]]...)
* The UK has produced several Transformers comics, including the long running [[Marvel Comics|Marvel UK]] ''Transformers'' title, which reprinted (sometimes with edits) American Marvel comics and created new stories around them. It's never had the same success yet, though it has made comics based on [[Generation 2 (Fleetway comic)|''Generation 2'']], [[Armada (Panini comic)|''Armada'']], [[Transformers (Titan Magazine)|the live-action films]], and [[Transformers Animated (Titan)|''Animated'']]. If that wasn't enough transforming robots, it also published a strip based on the ''[[GoBots (franchise)|GoBots]]'' under their ''Robo Machine'' branding!<ref>http://counter-x.net/gobots/comic/robo_machines/</ref>
* The UK also produced "strategically shaved ape" [[Simon Furman]], who's been known to write the odd Transformers-related thing.
* The word "[[Slag (disambiguation)|slag]]" is considered offensive in the UK (you wouldn't want your sister to be described as one). This has caused [[Beast Wars (cartoon)|some]] TV shows to be (very badly) edited to avoid use of the term (although strangely not [[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|all]]), and at least one [[Snarl (Animated)|character name]] change on both sides of the Atlantic. Thanks a lot.
* We have DVD boxsets of ''[[Robots in Disguise (cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]'', ''<strike>[[Super-God_Masterforce (cartoon)|Masterforce]]</strike>'', ''<strike>[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (cartoon)|Victory]]</strike>'' and [[Enter the New Supreme_Commander, Dai Atlas!|''Zone'']], and you Yanks still don't. Ahhh ha ha ha HA.
* The UK is still waiting for more than two super-cheap DVDs for ''Beast Wars'', though. :(
* At least our DVDs are better than the ones the [[Germany|Jerries]] have, take that Fritz!

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Great Britain oyobi Hokubu Ireland Rengo Ōkoku''' (グレートブリテン及び北部アイルランド連合王国), '''Eikoku''' (英国), '''Igirisu''' (イギリス)<ref>The names "Eikoku" and "Igirisu" technically only refer to England, but are more often used to represent to the UK as a whole.</ref>

== Footnotes ==
{{reflist}}

{{stub}}

[[Category:European countries]]
[[Category:Generation 1 locations]]
[[Category:Generation 2 locations]]
[[Category:Movie locations]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen locations]]
[[Category:Super-God Masterforce locations]]
[[Category:The Headmasters locations]]

United Kingdom

2011-11-04T22:09:22Z

86.169.14.246: /* Japanese continuity */

[[image:UK Grimlock.gif|frame|''And did those feet in ancient time...'']]
The '''United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland''' (also '''Region 2''') is a strange, possibly allegorical, land where pants are called trousers, underwear are called pants, women run the government, Batman kidnaps children, state-sponsored media is popular instead of elitist, vinegar is a condiment, and they have good rock and roll.

Also, they spell things funny and their [[Wikipedia:PAL|bizarro-DVD]]s won't play in real DVD players. ''Spooky''.

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics===
====Generation 1====
{{noteukonly}}
[[Image:Man of iron and knights.jpg|right|250px|thumb|"Oh bollocks, an immigrant! Kick him out! ''British Jobs for British Workers!''"]]
Some time in the past, the [[Man of Iron (Autobot)|Man of Iron]] and his [[Navigator]] came to [[Earth]] while searching for the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] and left their ship beneath the area that would one day become [[Stansham]]. There they remained, though the Man of Iron would occasionally leave the ship to visit the surface - in 1017 he encountered [[human]]s, including [[Godwin the Strongarm]] and [[Aethelric]], and a further two sightings were recorded.

In 1984 a beacon from the ship attracted the attention of the earthbound [[Autobot]]s and they took a [[Ark shuttlecraft|shuttle]] to the United Kingdom to investigate. Upon arrival, [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] kidnapped a human named [[Sammy Harker]] to provide the Autobots with intelligence about the local area, but they were attacked by the [[Decepticon]]s, who had also followed the beacon to its source.

As battle raged above Stansham Castle, the Man of Iron emerged from his ship once more, only to be blown up by [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]]. Jazz destroyed the ship (inadvertently killing the Navigator) and the [[Transformer]]s left the United Kindgom. {{storylink|Man of Iron (story)|Man of Iron}}

''About a year later they would return, seeking the source of an energy transmission that caused aspects of their personalities to reverse. Tracing the signal to a secret research facility Jazz and [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] fought over [[Zeke Heilmann]], a human who was stealing the core of [[Purnel's Auto-Reverse Defence|PARD]] for his own nefarious purposes. In the ensuing battle both Zeke and the device were destroyed by Jazz.'' {{storylink|To a Power Unknown!}}

''By 1987, the country was the home of the [[Europe|European]] branch of international anti-terrorism taskforce [[Action Force (team)|Action Force]]; their field leader [[Flint (G.I. Joe)|Flint]] was an English soldier. They ended up battling alongside [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]], [[Blades (G1)|Blades]] and [[Centurion (Marvel)|Centurion]] against a raging [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] ([[Straxus (G1)|or so they thought]]) in [[London]]'s docklands. Centurion and Megatron fell into the [[Thames|River Thames]].'' {{storylink|Ancient Relics!}}

''[[Richard Branson]] attempted to fish out the remains, only for [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] and the [[Seacon (G1)|Seacons]] to swipe his catch.'' {{storylink|Salvage!}}

In 1990, Shockwave emerged from the sea off the coast of [[Blackpool]] where he paused only to squash a tramp and his dog before leaving for [[New Jersey (Earth)|New Jersey]] to spy on [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]. {{storylink|Dark Creation}} He later set up his Decepticon dissident base there. {{storylink|Surrender!}}

====Fleetway Generation 2 comics====
[[Image:London_war_without_end_uk.jpg|left|thumb|200px|The Metropolitan Police handle a protest in their calm and reasoned manner.]]

In 1994, [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] led his forces to attack London with the intention of attracting [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. The damage to the city was severe; even the Houses of Parliament were bombed. Optimus defeated Bludgeon only to face a returned Megatron, who handed his [[Anatomic euphemism|skidplate]] to him. Before he could finish off his old adversary, Megatron was attacked by Bludgeon's troops and Optimus was rescued by the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]]. The arrival of Jazz's group forced Megatron to escape with Starscream and Prime declared victory, though he advocated that the Autobots vacate the area to escape any human retaliation. {{storylink|War Without End (issue)|War Without End}} {{storylink|War Zone}}
{{-}}

====Marvel Generation 2 comics====
[[London]] was one of the cities hit in the Decepticons' global slaughter. {{storylink|The Gathering Darkness}}

===Generation 1 cartoon===
====American continuity====
[[Image:Raiderdragonvsautobots.jpg|right|200px|thumb|"Just ignore the [[dragon]] and he'll go away."]]

[[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|A]] [[Rumble (G1)|group]] [[Ravage (G1)|of]] [[Ramjet (G1)|Decepticons]], the Autobots [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] and [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]], and [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]]. ended up time-travelling to England in the 6th Century. Starscream got involved in a spat between local Sirs [[Wigend du Blackthorne]] and [[Aetheling the Red]] before seizing control from the former and attempting to conquer the latter's fiefdom, as well as messing about with history by creating gunpowder in Europe centuries early. Luckily, Spike and the Autobots stopped him.

We also learned England possesses the time-travelling site known as [[Dragon Mound]], that plate armour existed ''far'' earlier than stuffy historians and their "facts" would tell us, and that [[Dragon|dragons existed naturally in England]]. {{storylink|A Decepticon Raider in King Arthur's Court}}

In the 20th Century the country had the dubious honour of big-game hunter and national stereotype [[Chumley|Lord Chumley]] causing an international incident when he stole a [[Daina|top secret Soviet jet]]. The Autobots sorted it out and made a mess of his castle. {{storylink|Prime Target (episode)|Prime Target}}
{{-}}

====Japanese continuity====
[[Image:Roadking masterforce.jpg|left|200px|thumb|A British sport star. Not pictured: [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8141300.stm the Jews Of The World tapping his phone].]]

Strangely, by this point in time, Britain was covered with the type of thick fog that hadn't been seen since the 1950s. It's almost like someone hadn't done any research.

[[Sixshot]] blackmailed the UK to hand over its energy or he would devastate London. It didn't, so he did. {{storylink|Terror! The Six Shadows}}

The [[Godmaster]] [[Lightfoot]], heir to [[British Motors]], was born in Britain. His father was unable to start a car company in England and so moved to that land of enterprise, [[Canada]]. {{storylink|Lightfoot: A Dramatic Encounter}} Champion racer and fellow Godmaster [[Road King]] also originated from the UK, having the nickname "the British Wolf".

Flight 308 from [[Mont Porte]] was captured by [[Blood]] off the coast of England, in the Strait of Dover. {{storylink|Kidnapping!? The Targeted Jumbo Jet}} Violating UK airspace was apparently a laugh, as the Decepticon [[Godmaster]] jets [[Hydra (Masterforce)|Hydra]] and [[Buster (Masterforce)|Buster]] had fun zooming over London at high speeds before heading on to [[Japan]]. {{storylink|Super Warriors - The Godmaster Brothers}}
{{-}}

===Young Corgi===
The United Kingdom would presumably be part of the [[Federation of Western Europe]], something the EEC will turn into in the near future of 2000. {{storylink|Battle Beneath the Ice}}

===Unicron Trilogy===
====Energon====
In the peaceful inter-war period, the Autobots built [[Plains City]] in England. It wasn't actually on a plain. {{storylink|Unicron Trilogy guidebooks}}

====Cybertron====
While looking for the [[Omega Lock]], the Autobots dug up around an ancient druid site. The area briefly became a battleground when [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]] and [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]] attacked. {{storylink|Space}}

Later, Starscream's [[Ancient Decepticon]] army swarmed in the skies of the nation, spreading panic. {{storylink|Invasion}}

===Live-action ''Transformers'' movie continuity===
====IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics====
[[Image:RotF Bendy Bus Prime.jpg|thumb|300px|right|]]

[[Diego Garcia]], a British overseas territory and home to a joint UK-[[United States military|US]] military base, was used as a training facility for [[NEST]] and base for Autobots. {{storylink|Alliance issue 3|Alliance #3}} British armed forces eventually became part of NEST and helped destroy the Decepticon [[Overcast (Movie)|Overcast]]. {{storylink|Alliance issue 4|Alliance #4}}

====Titan Magazines====
The Orkney Islands are home to a NEST base, and noted as a forward operating location. The base contains a training facility for Autobots. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.4|New Tricks}}

====''Revenge of the Fallen'' film====
An unknown number of British Army soldiers served in NEST, at least one who would get killed in battle. [[Graham|SASF Agent Graham]], a special forces operative, was part of [[William Lennox|Major Lennox]]'s NEST command structure; like most of NEST, he trusted the Autobots. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

====''Dark of the Moon'' film====
[[Carly Spencer]] was British, and worked for the UK embassy when she first met [[Sam Witwicky]]. {{storylink|Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}

====Merchandise====
[[Bendy-Bus Prime]] landed in [[London]] and took the form of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articulated_buses_in_London a bendy bus].

===Shattered Glass===
The British want to invade the United States. Boo, hiss! Don't be too concerned, though. The queen knows that bombing land she wants to conquer is VERY counter-productive. Wonder why no one else thought of that. {{storylink|Eye in the Sky}}

===Animated===
By the 22nd century, [[Wales]] was no longer a part of the UK and had become a US State. At some prior point, diplomatic relations between the US and UK were broken. President [[Benito Caruso]] is responsible for restoring those ties.{{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II}}

==Notes==
* By strange coincidence, a number of Transformers (including the entire planet of [[Gigantion]]) have accents identical to some of those in the United Kingdom!
* In 2009 Gordon Brown, [[Democracy|the Prime Minister]], made a public appeal for [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] to come and solve the country's problems, to which the Conservative Party responded Brown had "more in common with the Decepticons".<ref>[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/labour/4208838/Browns-hero-is-Transformer-Optimus-Prime.html Daily Telegraph report]</ref> (This probably makes the Liberal Democrats the [[Mini-Con]]s and the BNP [[The Fallen]]...)
* The UK has produced several Transformers comics, including the long running [[Marvel Comics|Marvel UK]] ''Transformers'' title, which reprinted (sometimes with edits) American Marvel comics and created new stories around them. It's never had the same success yet, though it has made comics based on [[Generation 2 (Fleetway comic)|''Generation 2'']], [[Armada (Panini comic)|''Armada'']], [[Transformers (Titan Magazine)|the live-action films]], and [[Transformers Animated (Titan)|''Animated'']]. If that wasn't enough transforming robots, it also published a strip based on the ''[[GoBots (franchise)|GoBots]]'' under their ''Robo Machine'' branding!<ref>http://counter-x.net/gobots/comic/robo_machines/</ref>
* The UK also produced "strategically shaved ape" [[Simon Furman]], who's been known to write the odd Transformers-related thing.
* The word "[[Slag (disambiguation)|slag]]" is considered offensive in the UK (you wouldn't want your sister to be described as one). This has caused [[Beast Wars (cartoon)|some]] TV shows to be (very badly) edited to avoid use of the term (although strangely not [[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|all]]), and at least one [[Snarl (Animated)|character name]] change on both sides of the Atlantic. Thanks a lot.
* We have DVD boxsets of ''[[Robots in Disguise (cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]'', ''<strike>[[Super-God_Masterforce (cartoon)|Masterforce]]</strike>'', ''<strike>[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (cartoon)|Victory]]</strike>'' and [[Enter the New Supreme_Commander, Dai Atlas!|''Zone'']], and you Yanks still don't. Ahhh ha ha ha HA.
* The UK is still waiting for more than two super-cheap DVDs for ''Beast Wars'', though. :(
* At least our DVDs are better than the ones the [[Germany|Jerries]] have, take that Fritz!

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Great Britain oyobi Hokubu Ireland Rengo Ōkoku''' (グレートブリテン及び北部アイルランド連合王国), '''Eikoku''' (英国), '''Igirisu''' (イギリス)<ref>The names "Eikoku" and "Igirisu" technically only refer to England, but are more often used to represent to the UK as a whole.</ref>

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