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Talk:Starscream (G1)/toys

2012-08-01T13:47:00Z

86.31.91.215:

==Pretender Starscream Request==
I don't have Pretender Starscream to test this, but I see the entry says the tail fin guns can't be stored, which I'm fairly sure is wrong. I believe the fin guns can peg into the holes on either side of the upper part of the rifle. Can anyone verify this for me?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 22:17, 4 August 2010 (EDT)

I had that figure a few years ago and yes it was possible to do that. I remember it not feeling like it was quite designed to do it, like it was just a coincidence they could stick on there but it was certainly possible.[[Special:Contributions/86.31.91.215|86.31.91.215]] 09:47, 1 August 2012 (EDT)

==Secret Starscream==
Nakas of Autobase Aichi has put forth the idea that "Secret Starscream", like Super Collection Figure Skywarp, was never actually sent out due to the bankruptcy of Keibunsha, the publisher. I *think* either the Binaltech And TF Collection book or one of the Generations 2009 books shows Secret Starscream, but I'd have to check to be sure, and I'm not sure what exactly is said about the piece either way. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 20:31, 10 December 2009 (EST)
:Ah-ha. It was in Generations 2009 volume 2.

:[http://obscuretf.com/tfscans/SecretStarscream.jpg Secret Starscream]

:Anyone want to take a crack at what that says? (At least we can get rid of the red speculation 'til then.) --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 23:33, 12 December 2009 (EST)

:The page says:
::The toy is the Prize A (and not-for-sell) for the Keibunsha mook ''Transformer(s) Generation(s)''".
::Although the details aren't revealed on the book, its plastic parts are all transparent.
::The package is as same as the one used for #004.
: <nowiki>;-D</nowiki> --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 13:05, 12 March 2012 (EDT)

== Transmetal Waspinator ==

I think it should also be considered a Starscream toy due to its portrayal in fiction. Trust me in this one.[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 20:47, 28 February 2010 (EST)
: Which fiction? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:42, 28 February 2010 (EST)
::Probably the Sourcebook... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:47, 28 February 2010 (EST)
:::*facepalm* --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:12, 28 February 2010 (EST)
::::Was that a yes?--[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 21:41, 16 August 2010 (EDT)
:::::Considering that Optimus Primal gets a bunch of random entries on his toys page, because he gets a new body for five seconds in some Japanese text stories, shouldn't we put both Waspinator's Regular beast and Transmetal body on this page? --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 16:40, 9 January 2011 (EST)
::::::Wait... it just hit me... Starscream possesses a bunch of bot's in his ghost appearances, doesn't he? Urgh. What a nightmare... Maybe just a note or something... --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 16:43, 9 January 2011 (EST)
:::::::I'd go with notes. Starscream possesses these others, their bodies are still their own. On the other hand, if a character ("Character A") is given a new body all his own that is a duplication of another character ("Character B")'s body the toy representing that body should be considered as a repurposed toy for Character A. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:12, 9 January 2011 (EST)

== Alternate caption idea ==

I think perhaps a funnier caption for his first Masterpiece toy would be "[[Puppet|I look like.... Thundercracker.]]" [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 19:05, 22 July 2010 (EDT)

== GID MW Starscream Missiles ==

I have an odd variant of the MW Starscream figure that includes Glow-In-The-Dark missiles. The stock in South Eastern CT (as well as who-knows-where-else) seemed to include these in good numbers, as the original that I bought (and still have) included them, as did a second example that I sent to Orson Christensen/Sidecutter (of Captured Prey) in trade (or if my memory is failing, he may have verified that the one he bought in KY also included them...in any event, he confirmed that I didn't have the only one)

I have always assumed (since they're not standard) that this was just an example of lax QC on the line, and someone tossed GID plastic pellets into the hopper because it was pretty close in color to the right plastic and no one noticed.

In any event, I recently pulled the box with MW Screamer out of storage and tonight I verified that I really really do have phosphorescent missiles. I tried a few different things to take a picture but haven't had much luck. Any suggestions on how to provide photographic proof are welcome, or if the powers-that-be are willing to accept my tale on faith, I could just add a note to the entry...
--[[User:Destrongerlupus|Destrongerlupus]] 21:10, 16 November 2010 (EST)

== Recent Starscream toys ==

By the way why there is a rubsign on a G1 toy that comes with lots of accessories including fists, null rays, wings, tail rudders, tails, thrusters, landing gear and the Decepticon planes era Starscream? I thought rubsigns are introduced in reveal the shield?([[User:Ihateyawning|Ihateyawning]] 23:56, 24 January 2011 (EST))
:Rubsigns were introduced in 1985 and have been used as recently as Classics and the Universe reissues. "Reveal the Shield" did not introduce them, it merely brought them back into the public eye. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 23:58, 24 January 2011 (EST)

== Things One, Two and Three ==

1) Like MCRG above, I was pretty sure Pretender Starscream's robot guns could be mounted on his shell's rifle. Can anyone confirm this? I don't have him. Am I being misled by Metalhawk?
2) I'm pretty sure, but not certain, that the Ghost of Starscream statue is probably not actually translucent polystone, but what is it? PVC? ABS? Surely some kind of plastic.
3) Whoever wrote the Skystriker Starscream blurb seems to have forgotten about Ti Megs. Actually, I'll just fix that one.
-[[User:LV|LV]] 10:09, 31 March 2011 (EDT)

Talk:Starscream (G1)/toys

2012-08-01T13:46:36Z

86.31.91.215:

==Pretender Starscream Request==
I don't have Pretender Starscream to test this, but I see the entry says the tail fin guns can't be stored, which I'm fairly sure is wrong. I believe the fin guns can peg into the holes on either side of the upper part of the rifle. Can anyone verify this for me?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 22:17, 4 August 2010 (EDT)

I had that figure a few years ago and yes it was possible to do that. I remember it not feeling like it was quite designed to do it, like it was just a coincidence they could stick on there but it was certainly possible.

==Secret Starscream==
Nakas of Autobase Aichi has put forth the idea that "Secret Starscream", like Super Collection Figure Skywarp, was never actually sent out due to the bankruptcy of Keibunsha, the publisher. I *think* either the Binaltech And TF Collection book or one of the Generations 2009 books shows Secret Starscream, but I'd have to check to be sure, and I'm not sure what exactly is said about the piece either way. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 20:31, 10 December 2009 (EST)
:Ah-ha. It was in Generations 2009 volume 2.

:[http://obscuretf.com/tfscans/SecretStarscream.jpg Secret Starscream]

:Anyone want to take a crack at what that says? (At least we can get rid of the red speculation 'til then.) --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 23:33, 12 December 2009 (EST)

:The page says:
::The toy is the Prize A (and not-for-sell) for the Keibunsha mook ''Transformer(s) Generation(s)''".
::Although the details aren't revealed on the book, its plastic parts are all transparent.
::The package is as same as the one used for #004.
: <nowiki>;-D</nowiki> --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 13:05, 12 March 2012 (EDT)

== Transmetal Waspinator ==

I think it should also be considered a Starscream toy due to its portrayal in fiction. Trust me in this one.[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 20:47, 28 February 2010 (EST)
: Which fiction? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:42, 28 February 2010 (EST)
::Probably the Sourcebook... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:47, 28 February 2010 (EST)
:::*facepalm* --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:12, 28 February 2010 (EST)
::::Was that a yes?--[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 21:41, 16 August 2010 (EDT)
:::::Considering that Optimus Primal gets a bunch of random entries on his toys page, because he gets a new body for five seconds in some Japanese text stories, shouldn't we put both Waspinator's Regular beast and Transmetal body on this page? --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 16:40, 9 January 2011 (EST)
::::::Wait... it just hit me... Starscream possesses a bunch of bot's in his ghost appearances, doesn't he? Urgh. What a nightmare... Maybe just a note or something... --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 16:43, 9 January 2011 (EST)
:::::::I'd go with notes. Starscream possesses these others, their bodies are still their own. On the other hand, if a character ("Character A") is given a new body all his own that is a duplication of another character ("Character B")'s body the toy representing that body should be considered as a repurposed toy for Character A. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:12, 9 January 2011 (EST)

== Alternate caption idea ==

I think perhaps a funnier caption for his first Masterpiece toy would be "[[Puppet|I look like.... Thundercracker.]]" [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 19:05, 22 July 2010 (EDT)

== GID MW Starscream Missiles ==

I have an odd variant of the MW Starscream figure that includes Glow-In-The-Dark missiles. The stock in South Eastern CT (as well as who-knows-where-else) seemed to include these in good numbers, as the original that I bought (and still have) included them, as did a second example that I sent to Orson Christensen/Sidecutter (of Captured Prey) in trade (or if my memory is failing, he may have verified that the one he bought in KY also included them...in any event, he confirmed that I didn't have the only one)

I have always assumed (since they're not standard) that this was just an example of lax QC on the line, and someone tossed GID plastic pellets into the hopper because it was pretty close in color to the right plastic and no one noticed.

In any event, I recently pulled the box with MW Screamer out of storage and tonight I verified that I really really do have phosphorescent missiles. I tried a few different things to take a picture but haven't had much luck. Any suggestions on how to provide photographic proof are welcome, or if the powers-that-be are willing to accept my tale on faith, I could just add a note to the entry...
--[[User:Destrongerlupus|Destrongerlupus]] 21:10, 16 November 2010 (EST)

== Recent Starscream toys ==

By the way why there is a rubsign on a G1 toy that comes with lots of accessories including fists, null rays, wings, tail rudders, tails, thrusters, landing gear and the Decepticon planes era Starscream? I thought rubsigns are introduced in reveal the shield?([[User:Ihateyawning|Ihateyawning]] 23:56, 24 January 2011 (EST))
:Rubsigns were introduced in 1985 and have been used as recently as Classics and the Universe reissues. "Reveal the Shield" did not introduce them, it merely brought them back into the public eye. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 23:58, 24 January 2011 (EST)

== Things One, Two and Three ==

1) Like MCRG above, I was pretty sure Pretender Starscream's robot guns could be mounted on his shell's rifle. Can anyone confirm this? I don't have him. Am I being misled by Metalhawk?
2) I'm pretty sure, but not certain, that the Ghost of Starscream statue is probably not actually translucent polystone, but what is it? PVC? ABS? Surely some kind of plastic.
3) Whoever wrote the Skystriker Starscream blurb seems to have forgotten about Ti Megs. Actually, I'll just fix that one.
-[[User:LV|LV]] 10:09, 31 March 2011 (EDT)