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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;92.40.116.148: /* Alpha Prime */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Prima and Primon==&lt;br /&gt;
How is it known that this guy predates Prima? I see this stated all over, but I don&#039;t know where it comes from. [[User:Kaje|Kaje]] 17:13, 29 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe you could refer to the only piece of fiction referred to in this article? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 17:25, 29 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::You mean the wildly convoluted convention exclusive whose wiki pages give almost no information? I ask again, how is this known? [[User:Kaje|Kaje]] 21:24, 29 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The story names previously Matrix bearers in order. Primon is named before Prima. (Not that I disagree that the article is unhelpful - which &#039;&#039;part&#039;&#039; of &amp;quot;Reaching the Omega Point&amp;quot; is this in? I don&#039;t know!). - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:33, 29 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Thank you. [[User:Kaje|Kaje]] 21:40, 29 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::And I quote, &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;He was there, at the beginning, as Unicron roared his fury at the encroachment of new life into the barren nothingness that was his kingdom. He stood on the front line at Jan-Ja, as the warrior who would be Optimus Prime took up his fallen Monark&#039;s banner and cried &amp;quot;never surrender&amp;quot; in the face of an advancing Decepticon phalanx. He watched spellbound as Autobot City rose gleaming from the ashes of the battlefields on Earth. &#039;&#039;&#039;Saw the Liege Maximo tear the Matrix of Leadership from the shattered remains of Primon.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; from [[Herald, Covenant, Schism, Paradox|Covenant]]. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 23:41, 4 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::And, further on in &#039;&#039;[[Herald, Covenant, Schism, Paradox|Covenant]]&#039;&#039;, &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;They waited and watched. Saw Primus&#039; prison become Cybertron, saw him populate it with beings like themselves, saw the great Civil War begin and spread across the galaxy - most tellingly, to Earth - saw the return of Unicron, who had also shaped his prison, &#039;&#039;&#039;saw the Matrix of Leadership pass from Primon to Prima&#039;&#039;&#039; to Prime Nova to Sentinel Prime to Optimus Prime, and ultimately to Rodimus Prime...&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 11:45, 11 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Alpha Prime==&lt;br /&gt;
Where is it ever said that Primon is &amp;quot;Alpha Prime&amp;quot;?  Assuming it is, this article should note it.  Explicitly.  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 20:47, 11 August 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Where else, naturally, but that tome of tomes, the AllSpark Almanac II? Specifically, it refers to him as &amp;quot;Primon, the Alpha Prime&amp;quot;. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 05:12, 12 August 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I gotta express a little bit of bafflement at just how much of Almanac II &#039;&#039;isn&#039;t&#039;&#039; about Transformers: Animated. Granted, I don&#039;t have the book yet (thank you very much Diamond) but geez. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:24, 12 August 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It&#039;s just that those are the bits that people are &#039;&#039;talking&#039;&#039; about. :) The bit about the Primes, for instance, is a hidden Cybertronix message. - [[Special:Contributions/92.40.116.148|92.40.116.148]] 06:25, 12 August 2010 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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