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Predacon (BW)

2011-06-07T11:06:20Z

93.93.222.201: /* Organization */

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{{disambig3|Predacon}}
:''The Predacons are a faction from the [[Beast Era]] portion of the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] continuity.''

[[Image:Predacon symbol.png|right|180px|thumb|You know they're evil. Their icon could poke out an optic.]]
Arising from the ashes of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]], the '''Predacons''' are, at least in part, descendants of the [[Decepticon|Decepticons]]. Some sources suggest that they were born from what remained of the original five [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]]. By order of the [[Pax Cybertronia]], they exist as something of an underclass, appearing to be equals, but firmly under the [[Maximal|Maximals]] in the social order. This has led many Predacons to hold bitter grudges against the Maximals.

When Predacons take beast modes, they tend to be dinosaurs, reptiles and arthropods, although this is not a hard-and-fast rule.

The adjective for "of or pertaining to the Predacons" is '''Predaconial'''<ref><tt>A [Maximal] strategic specialist, [[Stinkbomb]] is fascinated with the study of Predaconial psychology.</tt> — [http://www.tfu.info/1999/Maximal/Stinkbomb/stinkbomb.htm Stinkbomb's Tech-Spec], 1999</ref>, though it is ''extremely common'' to simply substitute 'Predacon'.

{{quote|You do not know the Predacons. We—they ''live'' for the glory of conquest.|[[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] to [[Tigatron]]|"[[Law of the Jungle]]"}}

== Origin ==
We do not know the origin of the Predacons beyond the fact that they are descendants of the Decepticons, at least in part. They were in existence and at war with the [[Maximal]]s prior to the signing of the [[Pax Cybertronia]], at which time most laid down their arms but a few went rogue.

Different continuities present differing, sometimes conflicting accounts. One account says that [[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]] founded the Predacons ([[Predacon (G1)|reusing his old team's name]]) after the Decepticons' defeat, and that they took the fight to Cybertron and could have won if the [[Tripredacus Council]] hadn't stolen control for themselves. {{storylink|BotCon 2009|Timelines Razorclaw's bio card}} Others have the Predacons and Decepticons co-existing for a time. {{storylink|The Razor's Edge}} {{storylink|Descent into Evil}} {{storylink|Beast Wars Sourcebook}} When [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] was in a bad mood, he's said the Predacons came ''after'' the Great War. {{storylink|Code of Hero}} {{storylink|The Agenda (Part III)}}

In at least one [[Micro-continuity]] the Predacons existed as far back as the 1990s, operating on human inhabited Earth under ''a'' [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]. {{storylink|Optimus Primal vs Megatron!}} {{storylink|Tarantulas (BW)#Toy Bio|Tarantulas toy bio}} It has been recorded that their way of life was to prosper or perish, and their leader swore they'd do this by driving the Maximals into extinction! {{storylink|Megatron (BW)/toys#Beast Wars|Megatron (1996) bio}} Of course, this may be [[Maximal Elder]] propaganda.

== Organization ==
The Predacons, although apparently governed by an organization known as the [[Predacon Alliance]], appear to be a rather splintered faction. One of the major ruling bodies is the [[Tripredacus Council]], but it is possible they represent only one political voice within the Alliance. As Predacons are known to look down on a [[Democracy|democratic]] system of governance and appear able to accept power plays and treachery if it ''succeeds'' {{storylink|Master Blaster}}, Predacon government can be assumed as autocratic and based on whoever can hold on to power successfully.

The Tripredacus Council keeps its followers pacified under the Pax Cybertronia with the promise of a slow, sly return to power, whispering of a long-term plan to overthrow the Maximals when the time is right. A number of Predacons have expressed dissatisfaction with this approach, leading renegades such as [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]], [[Galvatron (BWII)|Galvatron]], and [[Magmatron]] to recruit private armies of followers and, either covertly or overtly, strike out against the Maximals on their own. Nearly all known Beast Wars-era Predacons tend to fall within the arms of these criminal renegade militias, with the exceptions of [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]], with the [[Predacon Secret Police]], and [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], a Covert Agent who reported directly to the Tripredacus Council. (Tarantulas was a direct agent too but this appears to have been just ''him'', rather than standard for officers) It is unknown whether the Predacons have any sort of official standing army or defense force other than the internal Secret Police and the Covert Agent secret service.

In one continuity, following the [[Great Reformatting]], a revived Predacon force under Razorclaw was preparing for war; though the Tripredacus Council seemed absent and we don't know how large this new insurgent force truely was. {{storylink|Dawn of Future's Past}}

In another continuity, thousands of years after Beast Machines, the Predacons have been shown to be actively at war with the Maximals across the galaxy {{storylink|Autorollers Roll Out!}} {{storylink|Big Convoy, Move Out}} and have an [[Dead End (BWN)|official army with a military academy]]. The top military rank at this time is "[[Emperor of Destruction]]", and any governing force beyond that is unknown.

{{note|Originally, the Japanese Beast Wars animes weren't in the far future; they've since been retconned there.}}

Oddly enough, all the Predacons in Beast Wars II (apart from Galvatron, of course) have vehicle modes rather than beast modes, but the Japanese never heard of Vehicons then, so... it doesn't matter.

== Society ==

We don't know much about the Predacons' general lifestyle. All evidence suggests a very militant warrior culture, with power grabs endemic. This is even enshrined for some in an [[Dinobot (BW)|honour system]], where seizing control by force if you think you could do a better job was seen as an honourable, proper act. Predacon honour also put great stock in bravery in battle, a glorious end, and paying off your debts. The fact that the honour system allows for treachery has left Maximals confused. We do not know how widespread this honour system actually ''is'', as the majority of Beast Wars (admitedly criminal renegade) combatants were happy to ignore it.

A number of Predacons are scientists. Academic knowledge and expertise seems respected as long as you can also fight; if you can't, [[Fractyl|you get looked down on]].

Some Predacons have gone for more esoteric skills, such as [[Saberback|magic]].

Unsurprisingly, Predacon society has a strong criminal element. Both [[Crazybolt|individual thieves]] and organised gangs are known. Some gangsters, such as [[Cryotek (RID)|Cryotek]], have become hideously powerful and bold enough to attack the Maximal government.

== Social status ==

The exact social status of the Predacons appears to be a second-class one, but there's no specifics. Megatron has referred to the Maximals as ''ruling'' the Predacons on several occasions {{storylink|Code of Hero}} and once, in a melodramatic moment, said that they were slaves. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part III)}} Dinobot, meanwhile, thinks little of Maximal justice {{storylink|The Probe}} and believes that the Maximals use [[Maximal Torture Chamber|torture devices]] on Predacons. {{storylink|Chain of Command}}

Some Maximals, like [[Optimus Primal]], consider there to be a long-standing peace between the two races, apparently unaware of Predacon frustrations. {{storylink|Beast Wars (Part 1)}} Optimus has also been willing to offer a hand of friendship {{storylink|Beast Wars (Part 2)}} or show respect {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 1)}} to individual Predacons. Many of the ''other'' Maximals we've seen, by contrast, appear to view the ''entirety'' of the Predacon population as inherently untrustworthy and dangerous (especially if that Maximal is [[Rattrap]]). Maximal soldiers on Cybertron have expressed ''enjoyment'' in finally being allowed to beat up on insurgent Predacons. {{storylink|The Ascending issue 2}}

That all said, the Predacons co-run the important governing body, the [[Bi-Partate Committee for State Affairs]]. {{storylink|The Gathering}}

== Bases of operation ==
It is even unknown where exactly the Predacons are based.

The Tripredacus Council holds meetings aboard a space station, [[Predacon Command Outpost One]].

While one would presume the Predacons also had some sort of presence on Cybertron itself, there's evidence to the contrary. After the Beast Warriors' return to Cybertron following the events of Beast Wars, [[Optimus Primal]], Megatron, and others refer frequently to the missing population as Maximals only. This seems to suggest that they expected the number of Predacons on the planet to be negligible, if not zero. The only notable mention of Predacons in the series comes when [[Rattrap]] wonders what the murderous [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]] would have been like if he'd been reformatted from a Predacon instead of the Maximal [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]].

{{note|In real life terms the Predacons were excluded from the ''[[Beast Machines (franchise)|Beast Machines]]'' show and toy line for fear of confusing children with a third faction. ''Beast Machines'' story editor and head writer [[Robert N. Skir]] suggests in his FAQ pages that the Predacons suffered the same fate as the Maximals, though that leaves their absence rather odd.}}

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Destron''' (デストロン ''Desutoron'')
*''Dutch:'' '''Predator''' (toyline)
*''French:'' '''Predator''' (France toyline), '''Prédator''' (Canada)
*''German:'' '''Predator''' (toyline)
*''Latvian:'' '''Predakoni'''
*''Polish:'' '''Predatony'''

==References==
<references />

[[Category:Beast Wars]]
[[Category:Beast Wars Predacons| ]]
[[Category:Beast Wars II]]
[[Category:Beast Wars II Predacons| ]]
[[Category:Beast Wars Neo]]
[[Category:Beast Wars Neo Predacons| ]]
[[Category:Factions]]
[[Category:Predacons| Predacon (BW)]]

Predacon (BW)

2011-06-07T11:05:26Z

93.93.222.201: /* Organization */

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{{disambig3|Predacon}}
:''The Predacons are a faction from the [[Beast Era]] portion of the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] continuity.''

[[Image:Predacon symbol.png|right|180px|thumb|You know they're evil. Their icon could poke out an optic.]]
Arising from the ashes of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]], the '''Predacons''' are, at least in part, descendants of the [[Decepticon|Decepticons]]. Some sources suggest that they were born from what remained of the original five [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]]. By order of the [[Pax Cybertronia]], they exist as something of an underclass, appearing to be equals, but firmly under the [[Maximal|Maximals]] in the social order. This has led many Predacons to hold bitter grudges against the Maximals.

When Predacons take beast modes, they tend to be dinosaurs, reptiles and arthropods, although this is not a hard-and-fast rule.

The adjective for "of or pertaining to the Predacons" is '''Predaconial'''<ref><tt>A [Maximal] strategic specialist, [[Stinkbomb]] is fascinated with the study of Predaconial psychology.</tt> — [http://www.tfu.info/1999/Maximal/Stinkbomb/stinkbomb.htm Stinkbomb's Tech-Spec], 1999</ref>, though it is ''extremely common'' to simply substitute 'Predacon'.

{{quote|You do not know the Predacons. We—they ''live'' for the glory of conquest.|[[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] to [[Tigatron]]|"[[Law of the Jungle]]"}}

== Origin ==
We do not know the origin of the Predacons beyond the fact that they are descendants of the Decepticons, at least in part. They were in existence and at war with the [[Maximal]]s prior to the signing of the [[Pax Cybertronia]], at which time most laid down their arms but a few went rogue.

Different continuities present differing, sometimes conflicting accounts. One account says that [[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]] founded the Predacons ([[Predacon (G1)|reusing his old team's name]]) after the Decepticons' defeat, and that they took the fight to Cybertron and could have won if the [[Tripredacus Council]] hadn't stolen control for themselves. {{storylink|BotCon 2009|Timelines Razorclaw's bio card}} Others have the Predacons and Decepticons co-existing for a time. {{storylink|The Razor's Edge}} {{storylink|Descent into Evil}} {{storylink|Beast Wars Sourcebook}} When [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] was in a bad mood, he's said the Predacons came ''after'' the Great War. {{storylink|Code of Hero}} {{storylink|The Agenda (Part III)}}

In at least one [[Micro-continuity]] the Predacons existed as far back as the 1990s, operating on human inhabited Earth under ''a'' [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]. {{storylink|Optimus Primal vs Megatron!}} {{storylink|Tarantulas (BW)#Toy Bio|Tarantulas toy bio}} It has been recorded that their way of life was to prosper or perish, and their leader swore they'd do this by driving the Maximals into extinction! {{storylink|Megatron (BW)/toys#Beast Wars|Megatron (1996) bio}} Of course, this may be [[Maximal Elder]] propaganda.

== Organization ==
The Predacons, although apparently governed by an organization known as the [[Predacon Alliance]], appear to be a rather splintered faction. One of the major ruling bodies is the [[Tripredacus Council]], but it is possible they represent only one political voice within the Alliance. As Predacons are known to look down on a [[Democracy|democratic]] system of governance and appear able to accept power plays and treachery if it ''succeeds'' {{storylink|Master Blaster}}, Predacon government can be assumed as autocratic and based on whoever can hold on to power successfully.

The Tripredacus Council keeps its followers pacified under the Pax Cybertronia with the promise of a slow, sly return to power, whispering of a long-term plan to overthrow the Maximals when the time is right. A number of Predacons have expressed dissatisfaction with this approach, leading renegades such as [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]], [[Galvatron (BWII)|Galvatron]], and [[Magmatron]] to recruit private armies of followers and, either covertly or overtly, strike out against the Maximals on their own. Nearly all known Beast Wars-era Predacons tend to fall within the arms of these criminal renegade militias, with the exceptions of [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]], with the [[Predacon Secret Police]], and [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], a Covert Agent who reported directly to the Tripredacus Council. (Tarantulas was a direct agent too but this appears to have been just ''him'', rather than standard for officers) It is unknown whether the Predacons have any sort of official standing army or defense force other than the internal Secret Police and the Covert Agent secret service.

In one continuity, following the [[Great Reformatting]], a revived Predacon force under Razorclaw was preparing for war; though the Tripredacus Council seemed absent and we don't know how large this new insurgent force truely was. {{storylink|Dawn of Future's Past}}

In another continuity, thousands of years after Beast Machines, the Predacons have been shown to be actively at war with the Maximals across the galaxy {{storylink|Autorollers Roll Out!}} {{storylink|Big Convoy, Move Out}} and have an [[Dead End (BWN)|official army with a military academy]]. The top military rank at this time is "[[Emperor of Destruction]]", and any governing force beyond that is unknown.

{{note|Originally, the Japanese Beast Wars animes weren't in the far future; they've since been retconned there.}}

Oddly enough, all the Predacons in Beast Wars II (apart from Galvatron, of course)have vehicle modes rather than beast modes, but the Japanese never heard of Vehicons then, so... it doesn't matter.

== Society ==

We don't know much about the Predacons' general lifestyle. All evidence suggests a very militant warrior culture, with power grabs endemic. This is even enshrined for some in an [[Dinobot (BW)|honour system]], where seizing control by force if you think you could do a better job was seen as an honourable, proper act. Predacon honour also put great stock in bravery in battle, a glorious end, and paying off your debts. The fact that the honour system allows for treachery has left Maximals confused. We do not know how widespread this honour system actually ''is'', as the majority of Beast Wars (admitedly criminal renegade) combatants were happy to ignore it.

A number of Predacons are scientists. Academic knowledge and expertise seems respected as long as you can also fight; if you can't, [[Fractyl|you get looked down on]].

Some Predacons have gone for more esoteric skills, such as [[Saberback|magic]].

Unsurprisingly, Predacon society has a strong criminal element. Both [[Crazybolt|individual thieves]] and organised gangs are known. Some gangsters, such as [[Cryotek (RID)|Cryotek]], have become hideously powerful and bold enough to attack the Maximal government.

== Social status ==

The exact social status of the Predacons appears to be a second-class one, but there's no specifics. Megatron has referred to the Maximals as ''ruling'' the Predacons on several occasions {{storylink|Code of Hero}} and once, in a melodramatic moment, said that they were slaves. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part III)}} Dinobot, meanwhile, thinks little of Maximal justice {{storylink|The Probe}} and believes that the Maximals use [[Maximal Torture Chamber|torture devices]] on Predacons. {{storylink|Chain of Command}}

Some Maximals, like [[Optimus Primal]], consider there to be a long-standing peace between the two races, apparently unaware of Predacon frustrations. {{storylink|Beast Wars (Part 1)}} Optimus has also been willing to offer a hand of friendship {{storylink|Beast Wars (Part 2)}} or show respect {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 1)}} to individual Predacons. Many of the ''other'' Maximals we've seen, by contrast, appear to view the ''entirety'' of the Predacon population as inherently untrustworthy and dangerous (especially if that Maximal is [[Rattrap]]). Maximal soldiers on Cybertron have expressed ''enjoyment'' in finally being allowed to beat up on insurgent Predacons. {{storylink|The Ascending issue 2}}

That all said, the Predacons co-run the important governing body, the [[Bi-Partate Committee for State Affairs]]. {{storylink|The Gathering}}

== Bases of operation ==
It is even unknown where exactly the Predacons are based.

The Tripredacus Council holds meetings aboard a space station, [[Predacon Command Outpost One]].

While one would presume the Predacons also had some sort of presence on Cybertron itself, there's evidence to the contrary. After the Beast Warriors' return to Cybertron following the events of Beast Wars, [[Optimus Primal]], Megatron, and others refer frequently to the missing population as Maximals only. This seems to suggest that they expected the number of Predacons on the planet to be negligible, if not zero. The only notable mention of Predacons in the series comes when [[Rattrap]] wonders what the murderous [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]] would have been like if he'd been reformatted from a Predacon instead of the Maximal [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]].

{{note|In real life terms the Predacons were excluded from the ''[[Beast Machines (franchise)|Beast Machines]]'' show and toy line for fear of confusing children with a third faction. ''Beast Machines'' story editor and head writer [[Robert N. Skir]] suggests in his FAQ pages that the Predacons suffered the same fate as the Maximals, though that leaves their absence rather odd.}}

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Destron''' (デストロン ''Desutoron'')
*''Dutch:'' '''Predator''' (toyline)
*''French:'' '''Predator''' (France toyline), '''Prédator''' (Canada)
*''German:'' '''Predator''' (toyline)
*''Latvian:'' '''Predakoni'''
*''Polish:'' '''Predatony'''

==References==
<references />

[[Category:Beast Wars]]
[[Category:Beast Wars Predacons| ]]
[[Category:Beast Wars II]]
[[Category:Beast Wars II Predacons| ]]
[[Category:Beast Wars Neo]]
[[Category:Beast Wars Neo Predacons| ]]
[[Category:Factions]]
[[Category:Predacons| Predacon (BW)]]

Transformers Comic issue 2.3

2011-06-07T10:44:21Z

93.93.222.201: /* Errors */

{{Comicstory
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|prev=Transformers Comic issue 2.2
|next=Transformers Comic issue 2.4
|image=Tf mag 3 2009.JPG
|caption=Spot where the free gift went!
|publisher=[[Titan Books|Titan Magazines]]
|date=13 August 2009
|editor=[[Steve White]]
|designer=[[Danny Preston]]
|deputy editor=[[Den Patrick]]
|publishing manager=[[Darryl Curtis]]
|price=£2.99
}}
'''And now... <strike>ACTION FORCE</strike> NEST!'''

==Learning Curve==

*'''Script:''' [[Simon Furman]] 
*'''Art:''' [[Jon Davis-Hunt]] 
*'''Colours:''' [[Hi-Fi Design]] 
*'''Letters:''' [[Andrew James]] 
*'''Continuity:''' [[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]] (prequel)

At Edwards Air Force Base, [[California]], gunfire pounds the ground around [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]! Tracking the attacker to the alley behind two hangars, he is outraged to find a horde of crates being pushed onto him by...[[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]]?!

Skids and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] head for another hangar, ready to achieve their primary objective. They crack the lock and enter it, finding the secret [[NEST]] base inside...and a very grumpy Ironhide, warning them "get ready for ''pain''" before he bashes their heads together. [[Image:Ironhidetwins_KLUNNG.jpg|left|300px|thumb|Oh, so ''that's'' why they look like—oh, wait, they were already ugly.]] It becomes clear the twins, who ran off from [[Bumblebee (Movie)|their minder]] when he wasn't looking, have been spending their whole time at the base ''constantly'' claiming they have important info for [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]...which they'll ''only'' tell to Optimus, as it's "need to know". Ironhide has already told them (twice!) they can't bother Optimus, and as it turns out, he's not there anyway. (When asked why he didn't tell them, he says it was "need to know". Sarcastic git!) It's clear ''nobody'' believes the twins ''really'' have important info, not after all the times they've cried wolf before.

Suddenly, NEST's human techies pick up a Decepticon signal heading for [[Las Vegas]]! Ironhide immediately organises a human strike team under [[Sergeant Dundee]] and has their transport prepped. The twins eagerly clamour to join in the op, saying they've got the right stuff... to which Ironhide says no, they suck. Their laissez-faire approach makes them a liability, and they're too immature to be used in the real world. If they want his trust, they need to earn it. (Mudflap comes ''close'' to saying something rude here...) As the NEST team leaves, the twins decide they're having none of that; they're going to Vegas to show Ironhide what they can do!

As night falls, [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]] enters Vegas, a bit fed up with [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] being so cryptic about why he's there — not to mention Soundwave being a back-seat driver and "directing" him. He quickly finds some old rusting car, which his boss babbles about containing [[Seeker (ROTF)|ancient knowledge in an old shell]]. Luckily, he then gets some proper instructions: Cut the car open and take something from it!

By the time he's finished and extracted a strange, circuitry-based "memory tree" from the car, NEST has arrived and is moving to take him down. Soundwave barks that he must get the tree back ''now now now'' and not be diverted or captured. While being snarky about the "touching concern", Grindor uses his rotor to blast parked cars at Ironhide and the NEST crew. While the Autobot is hit, the humans continue to drive on and hit the retreating Decepticon with an electrified cable, disabling him. Now all they have to do is anchor it into the road to keep him immobilised...

...and then Skids and Mudflap arrive to prove themselves by shooting down this Decepticon that NEST is struggling with!

...and shoot through the cable, allowing him to flee.

Despite this, Ironhide recognises that they're genuinely distraught and what they tried to do, and he admits that while they need to think before they go in, maybe this is something that can be ''solved''. He tells them everyone makes mistakes; they just need to ''learn'' from them.

===Quotes===
"''Don't'' make me come lookin'. My fabled sunny disposition is just that... a fable."
:—'''Ironhide'''

"While you insist on this policy of do-as-you-damn-well-like, you're a liability, both of you. Especially on joint field-ops. This is a ''real world'', bots, not one of your ''playground'' stories."
:—'''Ironhide'''

"Say, Ironhide, anyone ever tell you—?" 
"Not ''twice''." 
:—'''Mudflap''' and '''Ironhide'''

"We are ''not'' being taken seriously."
:—'''Skids'''

"What is this thing I'm looking for?" 
"One of ''the lost''." 
"Is that supposed to ''mean'' something to me, Soundwave?" 
"No."
:—'''Grindor''' has a crap boss in '''Soundwave'''

===Errors===
* As has happened before, the "Previously" section refers to some events that haven't actually happened.
* Grindor is sporting a different colour scheme from his toy and film self.
* In the panel in which Grindor transforms and gets ready to carve up the dormant Seeker his rotor blades are drawn spinning on his right arm like a blade while at the same time they are hanging off his back, which Blackout was doing before he was hit by sabot-round missiles and Lennox's sabot launcher, then killed. Wierd.

===Notes===
* Why ''does'' the Twins' message need to be heard by Optimus only? The impression given is that it ''doesn't'', and the twins are just being juvenile. Going off their Movie Universe bios, it's possible they want to use it as an excuse to see His Nibs in person.
* The twins have a rep of being immature and telling tall tales.
* First strip appearance of NEST. They go unnamed and unclarified, though if you haven't seen the film yet, it's still clear Ironhide is hanging with the US military.
* This is the first time we've seen a NEST base outside of [[Diego Garcia]]. Ironhide is a commanding officer here.
* Soundwave is clearly working for [[The Fallen]], and that car he had hacked up is almost certainly [[Seeker (ROTF)|a dormant, and quite unfortunate, Seeker]]. Grindor, and presumably a number of other Decepticons, are being kept in the dark.
** Why doesn't Soundwave just talk to Ransack, an active Seeker? [[Transformers Comic issue 2.7|Later]] [[Transformers Comic issue 2.8|issues]] reveal Ransack will only give his intell to the Fallen, and Soundwave seems to want the information for ''himself''...
* With Soundwave appearing to be the Earth commanding officer, Starscream appears to only be ''a'' commander in the Decepticons rather than their nominal head in the manner of Megatron. When they meet up in later issues, Soundwave outranks Starscream.
* This strip has the most appearances of the twins' actual faces since the run started.

{{-}}

==Contents==
===Articles & features===
* [[The Fallen]] character profile.
* Competitions, including one for Deluxe TF toys.
* "WIN! See the sights of [[London]] with Bumblebee": a competition for readers over twelve to win a trip around London in a 1976 Chevrolet Camaro and a slap-up meal at Haymarket's Planet Hollywood for yourself, a friend, and a guardian! You also win a full set of ''Transformers RPM'' toys and a Devastator Showdown track set.
* Top Gear: Advertising and competitions.
* More Than Meets The Eye: puzzles.
* Sideswipe's Arsenal: informative feature on the railgun.
* Law and Disorder: Letters, art and photos from readers, answered by [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] and [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]].
* Starscream's Stars: Comedy horrorscope.
* Poster of ''[[All Hail Megatron issue 3]]'s'' [[Guido Guidi]] cover.

===Free Gift===
[[Image:Tf mag 3 2009_pulloutbanner.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Cos we needed MORE cover text...]]

* "'''FREE''' DISK SHOOTER WATCH" — a disc-firing weapon. It has an Autobot logo and fires... Decepticon logo disks...
* Pull-out activity section: removable four-page cardboard thing, with the top sticking up out of the comic (giving the cover an extra banner). It's got several activities and bits [[you]] can cut out to make things with! You can make a Starscream glider, targets for the disc launcher, a door handle (Autobot and NEST versions ("ideal for keeping annoying sisters and Decepticons at bay"), and a Megatron mask. "Become the Decepticon face of evil—and terrify your parents!"

[[Image:Titan3_megatronmask.jpg|left|250px|thumb|''He's looking at'' '''YOU!''']]

===Reprints===

* [[All Hail Megatron issue 2|''All Hail Megatron issue 2b'']]/[[All Hail Megatron issue 3|''issue 3a'']] (16 pages)

===Law and Disorder===
"Kyle Hampshire wins the Star Letter prize for his picture of [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]]—what do you mean, 'fix'?" 

"It doesn't help that [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] is prone to fits of psychopathic paranoia either and is a terrible bully. And he's also our glorious, wonderful leader and I totally respect him for it." 
"You creep, Barricade..."
:—'''Barricade''' and '''Ironhide''' on why Starscream and Megatron fight

"The episode you mention is called [[Triple Takeover]]. Starscream doesn't get frozen, he just gets locked in a chamber in some sewers. He still gets mad about that, but then who wouldn't?"
:—'''Barricade'''

"Don't forget, you humans like to strap on rollerblades. Not so different from [[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]] after all. You just lack the big, pointy swords for arms."
:—'''Ironhide'''

====Starscream's Stars====

"CANCER (22 Jun — 22 July): It's been said trouble always comes in threes. Luckily, you only have one Decepticon to worry about. Unluckily, it's a Triple Changer. Fate dumps used energon cubes in your path once again..." 

"LIBRA (23 Sept — 23 Oct): Oh dear. Oh dear, oh dear. Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear." 

"ARIES (21 Mar — 19 April): The sun is up, the sky is lime green (you are, after all, on Nebulous Verde XIII), everything is going your way, you got that promotion and you're feeling chipper. Everyone hates you." 

==Errors==
* Sideswipe's Arsenal is called Sideswipe's Armoury in the contents.

==Notes==
* The contents page plugs the [[Auto Assembly]] convention.
* The Fallen's profile explicitly states there were ''seven'' original Transformers, fitting what turned up in the film, and that the Fallen was imprisoned until Megatron released him. It also says that "legend has it" that the Original Seven are creations of [[Primus]], though they themselves think they're from the All Spark; whether that's a hint of anything or just a nod to us nerds is unknown.
* So now we know Barricade watches the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|G1 cartoon]].
* The Camaro competition uses a photo of Bumblebee in car mode, with a disclaimer that this is for illustrative purposes and the real Camaro may look different.

{{DEFAULTSORT:Transformers Comic issue 2.03}}
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen Magazine issues]]

Combaticon Warrior

2011-06-07T10:40:07Z

93.93.222.201: /* Notes */

{{factions|decepticonfilm}}
:''Combaticon Warrior is a mass-produced [[Decepticon]] bodyform from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)|''Revenge of the Fallen'' video game]] portion of the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family|continuity family]].''

[[Image:Combaticon Warrior.JPG|thumb|right|300px|If we need to get their [[B.O.T. (episode)|personality components back from three obnoxious fleshies]], we quit.]]

'''Combaticon Warriors''' are [[Combaticon (ROTF)|Combaticon]] M1126 Stryker IAV's with missile launchers, and are the heavy hitters of the Decepticon drone army.

{{TOCclear}}

==Games==
===Battle for the Allspark v2===
{{Note|Combaticons were one of the upgradeable body-types a player could choose between in the game.}}
{{storylink|Battle for the Allspark v2}}

===''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' - The Game===
:''Voice actor:'' ???

====Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC====
=====Autobot campaign=====
[[Image:ROTF_360PS3PC_BumblebeeVsCombaticonWarrior.jpg|thumb|250px|]]

When [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] rejoined the Autobots for active duty, [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] put him through his paces in a training course in [[Tranquility]], near [[Mikaela Banes|Mikaela's]] father's garage. Among the holographic opponents he faced were the Combaticon Warriors.

{{charstubfiction}}

Bumblebee faced numerous Combaticon Warriors in [[Egypt]] while he was helping [[Sam Witwicky]] and [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] investigate the [[Tomb of the Primes]]. The Combaticon Warriors supported [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] when he was unleashed upon [[Cairo]]. When [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] faced [[The Fallen]] at the [[Pyramid of Giza]] after the latter at uncovered the [[star harvester]], the ancient Cybertronian called upon various units of the Decepticon army to face the last Prime, including the powerful Combaticon Warriors. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)}}
{{-}}

=====Decepticon campaign=====

{{charstubfiction}}

When [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] met with The Fallen at the Pyramid of Giza, he realised that the ancient Cybertronian would not fulfil his promise of making the Decepticon leader a [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]. Megatron attacked, only to face elements of his own army loyal to The Fallen, including the Combaticon Warriors. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)}}

==Notes==
*According to their stats, these Decepticons have well balanced health, vehicle speed, and weapon damage, but very poor robot mode running speed. {{fact|where did this come from?}}

:*'''Health:''' 500
:*'''Running Speed:''' Very Slow
:*'''Vehicle Speed:''' Medium
:*'''Primary Weapon Damage:''' 60
:*'''Secondary Weapon Damage:''' 45

*According to concept artist [[Ken Christiansen]], [http://badflipblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/tf2-combaticon-headsand-stuff.html the Combaticon Warrior almost didn't make it into the game], due to [[Hasbro]] requesting the character be redesigned to resemble the Movie toy design of [[Wreckage (Movie)|Wreckage]], despite the fact developer [[Luxoflux]] had already submitted the final design for the Combaticon Warrior and there was no time or money left to do a new design. Fortunately, Luxoflux was able to convince Hasbro otherwise.

*He is also a playable/scan-able form in the DS Version as a HEAVY.
*The DS version also has brown Combaticon Warriors as enemies for the Autobots.

==External links==
*[http://badflipblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/tf2-warrior-class-combaticon-01.html Combaticon Warrior concepts], [http://badflipblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/tf2-warrior-class-combaticon-02.html final vehicle rendering] and [http://badflipblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/tf2-warrior-class-combaticon-03.html final robot mode rendering] by concept artist [[Ken Christiansen]]

[[Category:Combaticons]]
[[Category:Mass-produced Transformers]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen Decepticons]]
[[Category:Video game-only characters]]

Combaticon Warrior

2011-06-07T10:38:51Z

93.93.222.201: /* Notes */

{{factions|decepticonfilm}}
:''Combaticon Warrior is a mass-produced [[Decepticon]] bodyform from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)|''Revenge of the Fallen'' video game]] portion of the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family|continuity family]].''

[[Image:Combaticon Warrior.JPG|thumb|right|300px|If we need to get their [[B.O.T. (episode)|personality components back from three obnoxious fleshies]], we quit.]]

'''Combaticon Warriors''' are [[Combaticon (ROTF)|Combaticon]] M1126 Stryker IAV's with missile launchers, and are the heavy hitters of the Decepticon drone army.

{{TOCclear}}

==Games==
===Battle for the Allspark v2===
{{Note|Combaticons were one of the upgradeable body-types a player could choose between in the game.}}
{{storylink|Battle for the Allspark v2}}

===''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' - The Game===
:''Voice actor:'' ???

====Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC====
=====Autobot campaign=====
[[Image:ROTF_360PS3PC_BumblebeeVsCombaticonWarrior.jpg|thumb|250px|]]

When [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] rejoined the Autobots for active duty, [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] put him through his paces in a training course in [[Tranquility]], near [[Mikaela Banes|Mikaela's]] father's garage. Among the holographic opponents he faced were the Combaticon Warriors.

{{charstubfiction}}

Bumblebee faced numerous Combaticon Warriors in [[Egypt]] while he was helping [[Sam Witwicky]] and [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] investigate the [[Tomb of the Primes]]. The Combaticon Warriors supported [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] when he was unleashed upon [[Cairo]]. When [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] faced [[The Fallen]] at the [[Pyramid of Giza]] after the latter at uncovered the [[star harvester]], the ancient Cybertronian called upon various units of the Decepticon army to face the last Prime, including the powerful Combaticon Warriors. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)}}
{{-}}

=====Decepticon campaign=====

{{charstubfiction}}

When [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] met with The Fallen at the Pyramid of Giza, he realised that the ancient Cybertronian would not fulfil his promise of making the Decepticon leader a [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]. Megatron attacked, only to face elements of his own army loyal to The Fallen, including the Combaticon Warriors. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)}}

==Notes==
*According to their stats, these Decepticons have well balanced health, vehicle speed, and weapon damage, but very poor robot mode running speed. {{fact|where did this come from?}}

:*'''Health:''' 500
:*'''Running Speed:''' Very Slow
:*'''Vehicle Speed:''' Medium
:*'''Primary Weapon Damage:''' 60
:*'''Secondary Weapon Damage:''' 45

*According to concept artist [[Ken Christiansen]], [http://badflipblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/tf2-combaticon-headsand-stuff.html the Combaticon Warrior almost didn't make it into the game], due to [[Hasbro]] requesting the character be redesigned to resemble the Movie toy design of [[Wreckage (Movie)|Wreckage]], despite the fact developer [[Luxoflux]] had already submitted the final design for the Combaticon Warrior and there was no time or money left to do a new design. Fortunately, Luxoflux was able to convince Hasbro otherwise.

*He is also a playable/scan-able form in the DS Version as a HEAVY.

==External links==
*[http://badflipblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/tf2-warrior-class-combaticon-01.html Combaticon Warrior concepts], [http://badflipblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/tf2-warrior-class-combaticon-02.html final vehicle rendering] and [http://badflipblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/tf2-warrior-class-combaticon-03.html final robot mode rendering] by concept artist [[Ken Christiansen]]

[[Category:Combaticons]]
[[Category:Mass-produced Transformers]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen Decepticons]]
[[Category:Video game-only characters]]

Combaticon Warrior

2011-06-07T10:33:48Z

93.93.222.201: /* Notes */

{{factions|decepticonfilm}}
:''Combaticon Warrior is a mass-produced [[Decepticon]] bodyform from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)|''Revenge of the Fallen'' video game]] portion of the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family|continuity family]].''

[[Image:Combaticon Warrior.JPG|thumb|right|300px|If we need to get their [[B.O.T. (episode)|personality components back from three obnoxious fleshies]], we quit.]]

'''Combaticon Warriors''' are [[Combaticon (ROTF)|Combaticon]] M1126 Stryker IAV's with missile launchers, and are the heavy hitters of the Decepticon drone army.

{{TOCclear}}

==Games==
===Battle for the Allspark v2===
{{Note|Combaticons were one of the upgradeable body-types a player could choose between in the game.}}
{{storylink|Battle for the Allspark v2}}

===''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' - The Game===
:''Voice actor:'' ???

====Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC====
=====Autobot campaign=====
[[Image:ROTF_360PS3PC_BumblebeeVsCombaticonWarrior.jpg|thumb|250px|]]

When [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] rejoined the Autobots for active duty, [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] put him through his paces in a training course in [[Tranquility]], near [[Mikaela Banes|Mikaela's]] father's garage. Among the holographic opponents he faced were the Combaticon Warriors.

{{charstubfiction}}

Bumblebee faced numerous Combaticon Warriors in [[Egypt]] while he was helping [[Sam Witwicky]] and [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] investigate the [[Tomb of the Primes]]. The Combaticon Warriors supported [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] when he was unleashed upon [[Cairo]]. When [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] faced [[The Fallen]] at the [[Pyramid of Giza]] after the latter at uncovered the [[star harvester]], the ancient Cybertronian called upon various units of the Decepticon army to face the last Prime, including the powerful Combaticon Warriors. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)}}
{{-}}

=====Decepticon campaign=====

{{charstubfiction}}

When [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] met with The Fallen at the Pyramid of Giza, he realised that the ancient Cybertronian would not fulfil his promise of making the Decepticon leader a [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]. Megatron attacked, only to face elements of his own army loyal to The Fallen, including the Combaticon Warriors. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)}}

==Notes==
*According to their stats, these Decepticons have well balanced health, vehicle speed, and weapon damage, but very poor robot mode running speed. {{fact|where did this come from?}}

:*'''Health:''' 500
:*'''Running Speed:''' Very Slow
:*'''Vehicle Speed:''' Medium
:*'''Primary Weapon Damage:''' 60
:*'''Secondary Weapon Damage:''' 45

*According to concept artist [[Ken Christiansen]], [http://badflipblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/tf2-combaticon-headsand-stuff.html the Combaticon Warrior almost didn't make it into the game], due to [[Hasbro]] requesting the character be redesigned to resemble the Movie toy design of [[Wreckage (Movie)|Wreckage]], despite the fact developer [[Luxoflux]] had already submitted the final design for the Combaticon Warrior and there was no time or money left to do a new design. Fortunately, Luxoflux was able to convince Hasbro otherwise.

*Also, the Heavy Form the player could have chosen in the DS ROTF game did resemble the Comabticon Warrior, and brown versions were used as enemies in the Autobot game.

==External links==
*[http://badflipblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/tf2-warrior-class-combaticon-01.html Combaticon Warrior concepts], [http://badflipblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/tf2-warrior-class-combaticon-02.html final vehicle rendering] and [http://badflipblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/tf2-warrior-class-combaticon-03.html final robot mode rendering] by concept artist [[Ken Christiansen]]

[[Category:Combaticons]]
[[Category:Mass-produced Transformers]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen Decepticons]]
[[Category:Video game-only characters]]