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{{disambig3|Grindor}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Grindor is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Grindor rotfgame trailer.jpg|thumb|250px|right|I copied another character&#039;s alt-mode &#039;cause [[Scavenger (ROTF)|all]] [[Buffalo MPV Decepticon|the]] [[Rampage (ROTF)|cool]] [[Mixmaster (ROTF)|&#039;cons]] [[Long Haul (ROTF)|were]] [[Scrapper (ROTF)|doing]] it.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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You have to get up pretty early in the morning to get one over on &#039;&#039;&#039;Grindor&#039;&#039;&#039;. A master strategist, and close combat specialist, Grindor can predict his opponents next move before they know it themselves. It&#039;s reached the point where it&#039;s less planning and more instinct on his part. With every possible move planned out beforehand, Grindor confidently wades into the center of battle, ready for any and all comers.&lt;br /&gt;
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Except [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|this guy]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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Don&#039;t confuse him with [[Blackout (Movie)|that guy]].&lt;br /&gt;
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{{bigquote|Objectives will win a battle, but it is sheer ruthlessness that will win a war.|Grindor&#039;s sagely advice to the Decepticons|&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen: The Game]]&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===Titan Magazines===&lt;br /&gt;
{{note|Unlike his bio, Grindor here comes off more like a working stiff.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:GrindorTitan_talkinghislanguage.jpg|thumb|left|250px|He and [[Raoul]] were in the same engineering course.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Grindor was dispatched to [[Las Vegas]] by [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]], who refused to tell him what he was looking for and directed him to [[Seeker (ROTF)|some old car]]. He was a bit fed up until he was told to cut open said car and remove its insides, fun fun fun! Once he&#039;d secured the Cybertronian &amp;quot;memory tree&amp;quot;, he came under attack by [[NEST]] forces intending to capture him. Using his rotors, he created a whirlwind that hurled cars at his enemies, but they easily managed to anchor him to the ground with an electrified cable before he could retreat.&lt;br /&gt;
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Luckily [[Skids (ROTF)|two]] [[Mudflap (ROTF)|dumbasses]] turned up and shot the cable off, allowing Grindor to escape! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.3|Learning Curve}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Titan_deceptitwins.jpg|thumb|right|250px|The scale here is so messed up.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, as part of Soundwave&#039;s plan, those two dumbasses were in the Decepticons, and poor Grindor had to put up with them jabbering in his ear. He pleaded with Soundwave to tell him that he didn&#039;t really trust them to bring in [[Ransack (ROTF)|Ransack]], and was relieved to find out they were just bait; when he asked what would happen if they survived, he was told he would make sure they didn&#039;t. Happy day! &lt;br /&gt;
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To his annoyance, the twins succeeded by talking instead of shooting. He agreed with [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] that this sort of thing was an abomination and must be stopped, and shot Ransack out the sky. Skids was able to keep him contained and occupied with suppressive fire, while Mudflap took down Sideways, but Grindor decided to just grab Ransack and bug out, leaving Sideways behind and threatening to get even with the twins another time. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.7|Turnabout}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Back at base, he sat in on Soundwave&#039;s interrogation of Ransack, but it was interrupted by the Autobot twins. Grindor took fire and was not seen again after that, presumably fleeing later with Soundwave. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.8|Back-to-Back}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; film===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Frank Welker]] &lt;br /&gt;
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Ordered by [[The Fallen]] to capture [[Sam Witwicky]] for the information that the [[AllSpark]] had imprinted in his mind, [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] led [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and Grindor to [[Earth]], waiting for the [[human]] boy to be flushed out by [[Alice|one of their agents]]. Grindor captured the humans&#039; escape vehicle and brought it to [[Broadwater Metal Works|an abandoned industrial facility]] where Starscream and Megatron were waiting. While Grindor waited outside, Megatron and [[Scalpel (ROTF)|Scalpel]] interrogated the boy, preparing to extract the information by removing his brain, a process that was interrupted by the arrival of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]. Optimus briefly fought off Megatron and Starscream before escaping with Sam into the woods.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ROTF Optimus vs Grindor.jpg|thumb|left|250px|I predict a checkmate in 4 mo-*stab*.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Megatron followed, but soon called for his soldiers to assist. Grindor played little part in the opening attack, grabbing the Autobot and sawing into his face before being knocked away, but eventually gathered on the outnumbered and outgunned but defiant Optimus Prime. The [[Autobot]] [[Prime (rank)|leader]] immediately unsheathed both [[Dual Energon Swords|battle blade]]s and attacked the Decepticons, cutting off Grindor&#039;s right arm, slashing into his chest, sending some of Starscream&#039;s artillery his way and throwing his right battle blade into the Decepticon&#039;s torso. Badly hurt, Grindor required some downtime before he could rejoin the battle, during which Optimus stabbed Megatron and knocked off Starscream&#039;s arm. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Grindor-ROTFhooks.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Well, at least unlike the other guy I don&#039;t get killed by an [[William Lennox|insect]]. Or shot in the crotch, for that matter.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Grindor was just pulling out the deenergized blade Prime had swung into him when the Autobot unleashed his [[Energon Hooks]] and jabbed it into his [[optic]], using the leverage to pull himself onto the Decepticon. Once on top, Prime then struck another hook into Grindor, then proceeded to &#039;&#039;tear his head apart&#039;&#039;, killing Grindor. As he pushed the lifeless hulk to the ground, Optimus contemptuously commented on the material Grindor was made of. &#039;&#039;(Tin, to be specific)&#039;&#039; {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; toy bios===&lt;br /&gt;
The meticulous Grindor&#039;s careful scheming and power of flight put him at a great advantage during an encounter with the Autobot [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]]. Only Ratchet doing something completely unpredictable could save him! {{storylink|#SurfaceToAirShowdown|Surface To Air Showdown bio}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers (2010) toy bios===&lt;br /&gt;
During a running battle with [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] through a city&#039;s streets, the flying Grindor stayed out of the mute Autobot&#039;s range and rained down explosives with &amp;quot;chaotic glee&amp;quot;. The rubber-burnin&#039; Bumblebee planned to bring Grindor down to his level by making him quickly maneuver past buildings, hoping his rotor would catch, and signs pointed to Grindor soon making a costly mistake... {{storylink|#Legends Class 2|Bombing Run Battle}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers Annual 2011===&lt;br /&gt;
Grindor and [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] were sent to [[Tokyo]] to act as a diversion. After Barricade was located by the Autobots, Grindor hovered in the air and shot missiles at Optimus. Optimus responded by scaling the side of a nearby office tower and punching him out of the air. After crash-landing on Barricade, Grindor picked his comrade up and, after taking a moment to gloat that the diversion had worked, departed. {{storylink|Sam in Danger}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Games==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; - The Game===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Fred Tatasciore]] (English) [[Jarosław Boberek]] (Polish)&lt;br /&gt;
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====Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC====&lt;br /&gt;
=====Decepticon campaign=====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTFgame-Grindor.jpg|left|thumb|I have light blue parts! That&#039;s how you know.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Grindor served in a similar capacity amongst the Decepticons to that which [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] served for the Autobots - he was the Heavy Weapons Guy.  Big, slow, durable, and seriously over-armed with a machine gun and an energon wave cannon. Grindor could even drop off gun turrets for that extra added overkill.   &lt;br /&gt;
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During the Decepticons&#039; missions in [[China]], Grindor oversaw their supposedly secret mission in [[Shanghai]], until his forces were detected and routed by [[NEST]] and the Autobots. Imprisoned in the docks, [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] had to come and rescue his comrade. &lt;br /&gt;
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On the United States West Coast, Grindor was assigned to hack into NEST&#039;s communication network in the downtown area. Fighting through its Autobot [[Protectobot Scout|Protectobot]] defenders, Grindor managed to link up with each of the town&#039;s five communications arrays, furthering the Decepticon cause.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the East Coast, Grindor was assigned to capture Ladiesman217, designation Samuel Witwicky. After destroying the human&#039;s dorm building, Grindor took Witwicky to the nearby foundry where he would be interrogated by Megatron. However, during this process, the Autobots sent waves of Protectobots against Grindor in an attempt to save the boy, but they failed. {{Storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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=====Autobot campaign=====&lt;br /&gt;
While Grindor secured their position by deploying [[Combaticon (ROTF)|Combaticon]] and [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicon]] drones around the town, [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] arrived to rescue Sam. Assisted by his drones, the Decepticon almost overwhelmed the plucky little Autobot, but in the end Bumblebee reduced Grindor and his unit into scrap metal. {{Storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers Autobots/Decepticons===&lt;br /&gt;
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{{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen: Autobots/Decepticons}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers: The Ride&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
Grindor flew into action when Megatron ordered the destruction of the Autobot Evac. He transformed and stomped through the streets, all the while swinging his rotor blades at the fleeing Autobot. He smashed himself partly through a tunnel that Evac had entered and reached out for him, when he realized too late that it was a train tunnel and that he was in the path of an oncoming train. The train sped by, bashing his upper body and face while severing his out-stretched arm and keeping him from catching Evac. His fate after the encounter is unknown.{{storylink|Transformers: The Ride}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Revenge of the Fallen===&lt;br /&gt;
====Legends Class toys====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF_Legends_Grindor.jpg|thumb|300px|No, I&#039;m not Blackout!  There is NO missing scene dammit!  We&#039;re nothing alike.  I would never let myself get shot in the balls.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Grindor&#039;&#039;&#039; (Legends, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039; Legends Grindor is a [[redeco]] of the [[Movie (franchise)|first movie]]&#039;s Legends class [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] toy in a light blue base color with digital camouflage. Legends Grindor is a small and highly simplified version of the character, featuring limited articulation and detail, with the helicopter mode not being a particularly faithful recreation of a [[wikipedia:MH-53_Pave_Low|Sikorsky MH-53 Pave Low]] heavy-lift helicopter. (The placement of the fuel tanks, in particular, makes him look more like a [[Wikipedia:CH-53 Sea Stallion|CH-53 Sea Stallion]].) Even though the robot mode sports an attempt to emulate the movie character&#039;s chest design, this does not involve the use of obvious fake elements of the helicopter mode&#039;s cockpit, unlike [[Jazz (Movie)|other]] Legends Class toys of movie characters. As with all wave three Legends figures, the photo on the back of the figure&#039;s packaging shows a mis-transformed robot mode, where his arms are not folded down.&lt;br /&gt;
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:This mold was also redecoed as [[Spinister (ROTF)|Spinister]] for the [[Kmart]]-[[exclusive]] &amp;quot;War for the Skies&amp;quot; battlepack.&lt;br /&gt;
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::*&#039;&#039;[http://tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/LegGrindor/grindor.htm More information on Grindor at TFU.info]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Voyager Class toys====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF_Voyager_Grindor.jpg|thumb|300px|Just you wait, someone will call him [[Leader-1 (GoBots)|Leader-1]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Grindor&#039;&#039;&#039; (Voyager, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;RD-18&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; Scorponok mini-figure &lt;br /&gt;
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:Grindor is a redeco of the first movie&#039;s Voyager class Blackout figure in a more military-accurate grey colour scheme. The little [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] mini-figure has been redecoed to reflect the colour changes on the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039; release of Deluxe class Scorponok (even though the two never appear together in the film).&lt;br /&gt;
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:Grindor transforms into a reasonably accurate MH-53 Pave Low. An aft &amp;quot;cage&amp;quot; compartment can be opened to release a small PVC figurine of his partner, Scorponok. A button under his tail rotor can be pressed in a geared action to rotate his rotor blades. By attaching the Deluxe-class Scorponok to his underside, the rotor [[gimmick]] also spins Scorponok&#039;s claws.&lt;br /&gt;
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: During transformation, Grindor&#039;s (mind-numbingly delicate) [[Automorph Technology|Automorphing]] gimmick is activated when the user swings down his legs, which in turn flips the gray chest section his head is mounted upon up and into position, and lifts his back assembly and locks it into place behind his head. Another, less impressive automorph is in his legs—if you pull his knees down, his shin armor pops out a bit. The entire rotor assembly on his back can be removed and converted into a gigantic fan weapon, to represent &#039;&#039;vaguely&#039;&#039; the hand-held rotor-blade weapon he and Blackout wield in the films. Because of the size of his rotor assembly, Grindor is also much shorter than most Voyager-class figures despite his bulk, barely taller than a Deluxe figure.&lt;br /&gt;
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: It is &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039; easy for the gears in the cockpit/chest to become misaligned during transformation, enough so that the chest/head section refuses to align with the cockpit halves. Getting the gears back into alignment is a veritable nightmare, as so many other parts shift and move as you attempt to manipulate the respective pieces. Swinging the legs down locks the back assembly into place for robot mode, but simply swinging the legs back does &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;un&#039;&#039;lock it, with the user being required to separate the parts actively by hand. Failing to do so is sure to misalign your Grindor to bejeezus.&lt;br /&gt;
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: An interesting side note is that the two hard points located on Grindor&#039;s shoulders, intended to support his abominably large weapon, are actually the same size as the [[Mini-Con]] [[Powerlinx]] plugs on most [[Unicron Trilogy]] figures.&lt;br /&gt;
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:The original Blackout release of this mold was retooled as &#039;&#039;[[Movie (toyline)|Movie]]&#039;&#039; [[Evac (Movie)|Evac]] and &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; [[Whirl (ROTF)|Whirl]].&lt;br /&gt;
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::*&#039;&#039;[http://tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/Grindor/grindor.htm More information on Grindor at TFU.info]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{anchor|SurfaceToAirShowdown}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTFSurfaceToAirShowdown.jpg|thumb|300px|Unbeknownest to all, Grindor actually takes his name from his love of coffee.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Surface To Air Showdown&#039;&#039;&#039; (Voyager 2-pack, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; Scorponok mini-figure&lt;br /&gt;
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:A [[Costco]]-[[exclusive]] two-pack featuring Grindor squaring off against [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]], strangely reminiscent of Ratchet&#039;s fight with [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] in the [[Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|Transformers: Autobots]] Nintendo DS game. Both toys remain unchanged from their individual retail release.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Fast Action Battlers====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Grindor ROTF FAB toy.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Hey, is that Leader-1?]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Missile Assault Grindor&#039;&#039;&#039; (Fast Action Battler, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; Projectile&lt;br /&gt;
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:Missile Assault Grindor is a redeco of the first movie&#039;s Gyro Blade Blackout in a more military-accurate grey colour scheme. He is a simplified version of Grindor/Blackout design, designed for smaller children. His rotor blade can be detached and inserted into his left hand to represent the hand-held rotor blade seen in the film, just like the Voyager class version. He also features a chest cannon which can be flipped up from his back. Oddly, you can only see one-fourth of Grindor&#039;s head from a 90-degree angle. Even less of it is visible when his chest cannon is flipped up. He features a firing missile.&lt;br /&gt;
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::*&#039;&#039;[http://tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/FABGrindor/grindor.htm More information on Missile Assault Grindor at TFU.info]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers (2010)===&lt;br /&gt;
====Legends Class toys====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WMBombRunBattleBumblebeeGrindor.jpg|thumb|300px|Grindor tries to hide his tininess by pretending to be far away.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Bombing Run Battle&#039;&#039;&#039; (Walmart exclusive multi-pack, 2010)&lt;br /&gt;
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:This [[Walmart]] exclusive multi-pack contains a tan and orange [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]]-themed redeco of Legends class Grindor and a redeco of Deluxe class [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys|Cannon Bumblebee]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|Blackout. Grindor. They all look the same to me.|[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]|&amp;quot;[[Transformers Comic issue 2.10|Law and Disorder]]&amp;quot;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Although his toys (and seemingly the CG model of his robot mode) are identical to Blackout&#039;s, and although the toys&#039; packaging retains Pave Low [[licensed vehicle alternate modes|licensing]] information, Grindor&#039;s alt mode in the movie is in fact a [[Wikipedia:CH-53E_Super_Stallion|Sikorsky CH-53E Super Stallion]]—essentially a slightly upsized Pave Low operated by the [[United States Marine Corps|US Marine Corps]]. The ROTF video games include licensing information for the Super Stallion instead of the Pave Low. The alt mode switch may be explained by the retirement of the USAF&#039;s Pave Lows in 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
*Frank Welker is not credited for the voice of Grindor in the credits of the film itself, but his &amp;quot;[http://www.frankwelker.net/ Official Homepage]&amp;quot; would later credit him for the role. While we&#039;re not entirely convinced that the page wasn&#039;t simply updated by someone who read it on Wikipedia, the &amp;quot;sheeeagh&amp;quot; that Grindor lets out as Optimus Prime rips his head apart is pretty unmistakeably Welker.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039; never explicitly establishes Grindor as a separate character from Blackout. Screenwriter [[Roberto Orci]], when asked, was not sure whether they were supposed to be the same character or not.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;orci&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/180451-welcome-mr-roberto-orci-you-may-ask-him-questions-283.html#post3785383 Q&amp;amp;A with Roberto Orci at TFW2005]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the [[Hasbro Q&amp;amp;A/July 2009: Answers|{{SITENAME_SHORT}} Hasbro Q&amp;amp;A for July 2009]], it was confirmed that Grindor, not Blackout, appears in the movie.&lt;br /&gt;
*In the novel, his name is never used, just a &#039;&#039;&#039;huge Russian helicopter&#039;&#039;&#039;. Who can blame them, [[Roberto Orci]] couldn&#039;t remember it either.&lt;br /&gt;
*Internal files for the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039; video game identify this character as Blackout, indicating that the game had been developed with the understanding that they were the same character... but had dialog re-recorded to refer to him as Grindor.&lt;br /&gt;
*On the [[cross-sell]] for &amp;quot;[[The Fury of Fearswoop]]&amp;quot; multipack, Grindor is mistakenly given the name Blackout. Still, at least he remained [[Long Haul (ROTF)|a Decepticon.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*The master strategic skills and battle prowess his on-package bio goes on about come off a little less than impressive when you realize his tech specs give him a &amp;quot;Skill&amp;quot; level of... 4.  That makes him one better at his job than [[Skids (ROTF)|these]] [[Mudflap (ROTF)|guys]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Grindor only has six main rotor blades on his back while a normal CH-53E Super Stallion has seven main rotor blades. Strangely, his anti-torque tail rotor blade weapon in the film appears to have six blades like Blackout while a normal Super Stallion has four blades on the anti-torque tail rotor.&lt;br /&gt;
*In &#039;&#039;[[Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe]]&#039;&#039;, Blackout is featured instead of Grindor. Guess [[Simon Furman|the writer]] didn&#039;t get the memo in time.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Foreign names===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Japanese:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Grindor&#039;&#039;&#039; (グラインダー &#039;&#039;Guraindā&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Footnotes==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Costco exclusives]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen Decepticons]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Strategists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Transformers (2010) Decepticons]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Wal-Mart exclusives]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Grindor (ROTF)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;94.174.221.32: /* Revenge of the Fallen film */&lt;/p&gt;
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{{disambig3|Grindor}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Grindor is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Grindor rotfgame trailer.jpg|thumb|250px|right|I copied another character&#039;s alt-mode &#039;cause [[Scavenger (ROTF)|all]] [[Buffalo MPV Decepticon|the]] [[Rampage (ROTF)|cool]] [[Mixmaster (ROTF)|&#039;cons]] [[Long Haul (ROTF)|were]] [[Scrapper (ROTF)|doing]] it.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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You have to get up pretty early in the morning to get one over on &#039;&#039;&#039;Grindor&#039;&#039;&#039;. A master strategist, and close combat specialist, Grindor can predict his opponents next move before they know it themselves. It&#039;s reached the point where it&#039;s less planning and more instinct on his part. With every possible move planned out beforehand, Grindor confidently wades into the center of battle, ready for any and all comers.&lt;br /&gt;
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Except [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|this guy]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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Don&#039;t confuse him with [[Blackout (Movie)|that guy]].&lt;br /&gt;
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{{bigquote|Objectives will win a battle, but it is sheer ruthlessness that will win a war.|Grindor&#039;s sagely advice to the Decepticons|&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen: The Game]]&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===Titan Magazines===&lt;br /&gt;
{{note|Unlike his bio, Grindor here comes off more like a working stiff.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:GrindorTitan_talkinghislanguage.jpg|thumb|left|250px|He and [[Raoul]] were in the same engineering course.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Grindor was dispatched to [[Las Vegas]] by [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]], who refused to tell him what he was looking for and directed him to [[Seeker (ROTF)|some old car]]. He was a bit fed up until he was told to cut open said car and remove its insides, fun fun fun! Once he&#039;d secured the Cybertronian &amp;quot;memory tree&amp;quot;, he came under attack by [[NEST]] forces intending to capture him. Using his rotors, he created a whirlwind that hurled cars at his enemies, but they easily managed to anchor him to the ground with an electrified cable before he could retreat.&lt;br /&gt;
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Luckily [[Skids (ROTF)|two]] [[Mudflap (ROTF)|dumbasses]] turned up and shot the cable off, allowing Grindor to escape! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.3|Learning Curve}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Titan_deceptitwins.jpg|thumb|right|250px|The scale here is so messed up.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, as part of Soundwave&#039;s plan, those two dumbasses were in the Decepticons, and poor Grindor had to put up with them jabbering in his ear. He pleaded with Soundwave to tell him that he didn&#039;t really trust them to bring in [[Ransack (ROTF)|Ransack]], and was relieved to find out they were just bait; when he asked what would happen if they survived, he was told he would make sure they didn&#039;t. Happy day! &lt;br /&gt;
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To his annoyance, the twins succeeded by talking instead of shooting. He agreed with [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] that this sort of thing was an abomination and must be stopped, and shot Ransack out the sky. Skids was able to keep him contained and occupied with suppressive fire, while Mudflap took down Sideways, but Grindor decided to just grab Ransack and bug out, leaving Sideways behind and threatening to get even with the twins another time. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.7|Turnabout}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Back at base, he sat in on Soundwave&#039;s interrogation of Ransack, but it was interrupted by the Autobot twins. Grindor took fire and was not seen again after that, presumably fleeing later with Soundwave. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.8|Back-to-Back}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; film===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Frank Welker]] &lt;br /&gt;
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Ordered by [[The Fallen]] to capture [[Sam Witwicky]] for the information that the [[AllSpark]] had imprinted in his mind, [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] led [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and Grindor to [[Earth]], waiting for the [[human]] boy to be flushed out by [[Alice|one of their agents]]. Grindor captured the humans&#039; escape vehicle and brought it to [[Broadwater Metal Works|an abandoned industrial facility]] where Starscream and Megatron were waiting. While Grindor waited outside, Megatron and [[Scalpel (ROTF)|Scalpel]] interrogated the boy, preparing to extract the information by removing his brain, a process that was interrupted by the arrival of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]. Optimus briefly fought off Megatron and Starscream before escaping with Sam into the woods.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ROTF Optimus vs Grindor.jpg|thumb|left|250px|I predict a checkmate in 4 mo-*stab*.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Megatron followed, but soon called for his soldiers to assist. Grindor played little part in the opening attack, grabbing the Autobot and sawing into his face before being knocked away, but eventually gathered on the outnumbered and outgunned but defiant Optimus Prime. The [[Autobot]] [[Prime (rank)|leader]] immediately unsheathed both [[Dual Energon Swords|battle blade]]s and attacked the Decepticons, cutting off Grindor&#039;s right arm, slashing into his chest, sending some of Starscream&#039;s artillery his way and throwing his right battle blade into the Decepticon&#039;s torso. Badly hurt, Grindor required some downtime before he could rejoin the battle, during which Optimus stabbed Megatron and knocked off Starscream&#039;s arm. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Grindor-ROTFhooks.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Well, at least unlike the other guy I don&#039;t get killed by an [[Willam Lennoxinsect]]. Or shot in the crotch, for that matter.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Grindor was just pulling out the deenergized blade Prime had swung into him when the Autobot unleashed his [[Energon Hooks]] and jabbed it into his [[optic]], using the leverage to pull himself onto the Decepticon. Once on top, Prime then struck another hook into Grindor, then proceeded to &#039;&#039;tear his head apart&#039;&#039;, killing Grindor. As he pushed the lifeless hulk to the ground, Optimus contemptuously commented on the material Grindor was made of. &#039;&#039;(Tin, to be specific)&#039;&#039; {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; toy bios===&lt;br /&gt;
The meticulous Grindor&#039;s careful scheming and power of flight put him at a great advantage during an encounter with the Autobot [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]]. Only Ratchet doing something completely unpredictable could save him! {{storylink|#SurfaceToAirShowdown|Surface To Air Showdown bio}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers (2010) toy bios===&lt;br /&gt;
During a running battle with [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] through a city&#039;s streets, the flying Grindor stayed out of the mute Autobot&#039;s range and rained down explosives with &amp;quot;chaotic glee&amp;quot;. The rubber-burnin&#039; Bumblebee planned to bring Grindor down to his level by making him quickly maneuver past buildings, hoping his rotor would catch, and signs pointed to Grindor soon making a costly mistake... {{storylink|#Legends Class 2|Bombing Run Battle}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers Annual 2011===&lt;br /&gt;
Grindor and [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] were sent to [[Tokyo]] to act as a diversion. After Barricade was located by the Autobots, Grindor hovered in the air and shot missiles at Optimus. Optimus responded by scaling the side of a nearby office tower and punching him out of the air. After crash-landing on Barricade, Grindor picked his comrade up and, after taking a moment to gloat that the diversion had worked, departed. {{storylink|Sam in Danger}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Games==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; - The Game===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Fred Tatasciore]] (English) [[Jarosław Boberek]] (Polish)&lt;br /&gt;
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====Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC====&lt;br /&gt;
=====Decepticon campaign=====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTFgame-Grindor.jpg|left|thumb|I have light blue parts! That&#039;s how you know.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Grindor served in a similar capacity amongst the Decepticons to that which [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] served for the Autobots - he was the Heavy Weapons Guy.  Big, slow, durable, and seriously over-armed with a machine gun and an energon wave cannon. Grindor could even drop off gun turrets for that extra added overkill.   &lt;br /&gt;
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During the Decepticons&#039; missions in [[China]], Grindor oversaw their supposedly secret mission in [[Shanghai]], until his forces were detected and routed by [[NEST]] and the Autobots. Imprisoned in the docks, [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] had to come and rescue his comrade. &lt;br /&gt;
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On the United States West Coast, Grindor was assigned to hack into NEST&#039;s communication network in the downtown area. Fighting through its Autobot [[Protectobot Scout|Protectobot]] defenders, Grindor managed to link up with each of the town&#039;s five communications arrays, furthering the Decepticon cause.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the East Coast, Grindor was assigned to capture Ladiesman217, designation Samuel Witwicky. After destroying the human&#039;s dorm building, Grindor took Witwicky to the nearby foundry where he would be interrogated by Megatron. However, during this process, the Autobots sent waves of Protectobots against Grindor in an attempt to save the boy, but they failed. {{Storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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=====Autobot campaign=====&lt;br /&gt;
While Grindor secured their position by deploying [[Combaticon (ROTF)|Combaticon]] and [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicon]] drones around the town, [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] arrived to rescue Sam. Assisted by his drones, the Decepticon almost overwhelmed the plucky little Autobot, but in the end Bumblebee reduced Grindor and his unit into scrap metal. {{Storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers Autobots/Decepticons===&lt;br /&gt;
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{{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen: Autobots/Decepticons}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers: The Ride&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
Grindor flew into action when Megatron ordered the destruction of the Autobot Evac. He transformed and stomped through the streets, all the while swinging his rotor blades at the fleeing Autobot. He smashed himself partly through a tunnel that Evac had entered and reached out for him, when he realized too late that it was a train tunnel and that he was in the path of an oncoming train. The train sped by, bashing his upper body and face while severing his out-stretched arm and keeping him from catching Evac. His fate after the encounter is unknown.{{storylink|Transformers: The Ride}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Revenge of the Fallen===&lt;br /&gt;
====Legends Class toys====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF_Legends_Grindor.jpg|thumb|300px|No, I&#039;m not Blackout!  There is NO missing scene dammit!  We&#039;re nothing alike.  I would never let myself get shot in the balls.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Grindor&#039;&#039;&#039; (Legends, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039; Legends Grindor is a [[redeco]] of the [[Movie (franchise)|first movie]]&#039;s Legends class [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] toy in a light blue base color with digital camouflage. Legends Grindor is a small and highly simplified version of the character, featuring limited articulation and detail, with the helicopter mode not being a particularly faithful recreation of a [[wikipedia:MH-53_Pave_Low|Sikorsky MH-53 Pave Low]] heavy-lift helicopter. (The placement of the fuel tanks, in particular, makes him look more like a [[Wikipedia:CH-53 Sea Stallion|CH-53 Sea Stallion]].) Even though the robot mode sports an attempt to emulate the movie character&#039;s chest design, this does not involve the use of obvious fake elements of the helicopter mode&#039;s cockpit, unlike [[Jazz (Movie)|other]] Legends Class toys of movie characters. As with all wave three Legends figures, the photo on the back of the figure&#039;s packaging shows a mis-transformed robot mode, where his arms are not folded down.&lt;br /&gt;
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:This mold was also redecoed as [[Spinister (ROTF)|Spinister]] for the [[Kmart]]-[[exclusive]] &amp;quot;War for the Skies&amp;quot; battlepack.&lt;br /&gt;
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::*&#039;&#039;[http://tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/LegGrindor/grindor.htm More information on Grindor at TFU.info]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Voyager Class toys====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF_Voyager_Grindor.jpg|thumb|300px|Just you wait, someone will call him [[Leader-1 (GoBots)|Leader-1]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Grindor&#039;&#039;&#039; (Voyager, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;RD-18&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; Scorponok mini-figure &lt;br /&gt;
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:Grindor is a redeco of the first movie&#039;s Voyager class Blackout figure in a more military-accurate grey colour scheme. The little [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] mini-figure has been redecoed to reflect the colour changes on the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039; release of Deluxe class Scorponok (even though the two never appear together in the film).&lt;br /&gt;
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:Grindor transforms into a reasonably accurate MH-53 Pave Low. An aft &amp;quot;cage&amp;quot; compartment can be opened to release a small PVC figurine of his partner, Scorponok. A button under his tail rotor can be pressed in a geared action to rotate his rotor blades. By attaching the Deluxe-class Scorponok to his underside, the rotor [[gimmick]] also spins Scorponok&#039;s claws.&lt;br /&gt;
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: During transformation, Grindor&#039;s (mind-numbingly delicate) [[Automorph Technology|Automorphing]] gimmick is activated when the user swings down his legs, which in turn flips the gray chest section his head is mounted upon up and into position, and lifts his back assembly and locks it into place behind his head. Another, less impressive automorph is in his legs—if you pull his knees down, his shin armor pops out a bit. The entire rotor assembly on his back can be removed and converted into a gigantic fan weapon, to represent &#039;&#039;vaguely&#039;&#039; the hand-held rotor-blade weapon he and Blackout wield in the films. Because of the size of his rotor assembly, Grindor is also much shorter than most Voyager-class figures despite his bulk, barely taller than a Deluxe figure.&lt;br /&gt;
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: It is &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039; easy for the gears in the cockpit/chest to become misaligned during transformation, enough so that the chest/head section refuses to align with the cockpit halves. Getting the gears back into alignment is a veritable nightmare, as so many other parts shift and move as you attempt to manipulate the respective pieces. Swinging the legs down locks the back assembly into place for robot mode, but simply swinging the legs back does &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;un&#039;&#039;lock it, with the user being required to separate the parts actively by hand. Failing to do so is sure to misalign your Grindor to bejeezus.&lt;br /&gt;
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: An interesting side note is that the two hard points located on Grindor&#039;s shoulders, intended to support his abominably large weapon, are actually the same size as the [[Mini-Con]] [[Powerlinx]] plugs on most [[Unicron Trilogy]] figures.&lt;br /&gt;
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:The original Blackout release of this mold was retooled as &#039;&#039;[[Movie (toyline)|Movie]]&#039;&#039; [[Evac (Movie)|Evac]] and &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; [[Whirl (ROTF)|Whirl]].&lt;br /&gt;
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::*&#039;&#039;[http://tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/Grindor/grindor.htm More information on Grindor at TFU.info]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ROTFSurfaceToAirShowdown.jpg|thumb|300px|Unbeknownest to all, Grindor actually takes his name from his love of coffee.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Surface To Air Showdown&#039;&#039;&#039; (Voyager 2-pack, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; Scorponok mini-figure&lt;br /&gt;
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:A [[Costco]]-[[exclusive]] two-pack featuring Grindor squaring off against [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]], strangely reminiscent of Ratchet&#039;s fight with [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] in the [[Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|Transformers: Autobots]] Nintendo DS game. Both toys remain unchanged from their individual retail release.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Fast Action Battlers====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Grindor ROTF FAB toy.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Hey, is that Leader-1?]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Missile Assault Grindor&#039;&#039;&#039; (Fast Action Battler, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; Projectile&lt;br /&gt;
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:Missile Assault Grindor is a redeco of the first movie&#039;s Gyro Blade Blackout in a more military-accurate grey colour scheme. He is a simplified version of Grindor/Blackout design, designed for smaller children. His rotor blade can be detached and inserted into his left hand to represent the hand-held rotor blade seen in the film, just like the Voyager class version. He also features a chest cannon which can be flipped up from his back. Oddly, you can only see one-fourth of Grindor&#039;s head from a 90-degree angle. Even less of it is visible when his chest cannon is flipped up. He features a firing missile.&lt;br /&gt;
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::*&#039;&#039;[http://tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/FABGrindor/grindor.htm More information on Missile Assault Grindor at TFU.info]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers (2010)===&lt;br /&gt;
====Legends Class toys====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WMBombRunBattleBumblebeeGrindor.jpg|thumb|300px|Grindor tries to hide his tininess by pretending to be far away.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Bombing Run Battle&#039;&#039;&#039; (Walmart exclusive multi-pack, 2010)&lt;br /&gt;
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:This [[Walmart]] exclusive multi-pack contains a tan and orange [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]]-themed redeco of Legends class Grindor and a redeco of Deluxe class [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys|Cannon Bumblebee]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|Blackout. Grindor. They all look the same to me.|[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]|&amp;quot;[[Transformers Comic issue 2.10|Law and Disorder]]&amp;quot;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Although his toys (and seemingly the CG model of his robot mode) are identical to Blackout&#039;s, and although the toys&#039; packaging retains Pave Low [[licensed vehicle alternate modes|licensing]] information, Grindor&#039;s alt mode in the movie is in fact a [[Wikipedia:CH-53E_Super_Stallion|Sikorsky CH-53E Super Stallion]]—essentially a slightly upsized Pave Low operated by the [[United States Marine Corps|US Marine Corps]]. The ROTF video games include licensing information for the Super Stallion instead of the Pave Low. The alt mode switch may be explained by the retirement of the USAF&#039;s Pave Lows in 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
*Frank Welker is not credited for the voice of Grindor in the credits of the film itself, but his &amp;quot;[http://www.frankwelker.net/ Official Homepage]&amp;quot; would later credit him for the role. While we&#039;re not entirely convinced that the page wasn&#039;t simply updated by someone who read it on Wikipedia, the &amp;quot;sheeeagh&amp;quot; that Grindor lets out as Optimus Prime rips his head apart is pretty unmistakeably Welker.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039; never explicitly establishes Grindor as a separate character from Blackout. Screenwriter [[Roberto Orci]], when asked, was not sure whether they were supposed to be the same character or not.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;orci&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/180451-welcome-mr-roberto-orci-you-may-ask-him-questions-283.html#post3785383 Q&amp;amp;A with Roberto Orci at TFW2005]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the [[Hasbro Q&amp;amp;A/July 2009: Answers|{{SITENAME_SHORT}} Hasbro Q&amp;amp;A for July 2009]], it was confirmed that Grindor, not Blackout, appears in the movie.&lt;br /&gt;
*In the novel, his name is never used, just a &#039;&#039;&#039;huge Russian helicopter&#039;&#039;&#039;. Who can blame them, [[Roberto Orci]] couldn&#039;t remember it either.&lt;br /&gt;
*Internal files for the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039; video game identify this character as Blackout, indicating that the game had been developed with the understanding that they were the same character... but had dialog re-recorded to refer to him as Grindor.&lt;br /&gt;
*On the [[cross-sell]] for &amp;quot;[[The Fury of Fearswoop]]&amp;quot; multipack, Grindor is mistakenly given the name Blackout. Still, at least he remained [[Long Haul (ROTF)|a Decepticon.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*The master strategic skills and battle prowess his on-package bio goes on about come off a little less than impressive when you realize his tech specs give him a &amp;quot;Skill&amp;quot; level of... 4.  That makes him one better at his job than [[Skids (ROTF)|these]] [[Mudflap (ROTF)|guys]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Grindor only has six main rotor blades on his back while a normal CH-53E Super Stallion has seven main rotor blades. Strangely, his anti-torque tail rotor blade weapon in the film appears to have six blades like Blackout while a normal Super Stallion has four blades on the anti-torque tail rotor.&lt;br /&gt;
*In &#039;&#039;[[Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe]]&#039;&#039;, Blackout is featured instead of Grindor. Guess [[Simon Furman|the writer]] didn&#039;t get the memo in time.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Foreign names===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Japanese:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Grindor&#039;&#039;&#039; (グラインダー &#039;&#039;Guraindā&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Costco exclusives]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen Decepticons]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Strategists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Transformers (2010) Decepticons]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Grindor is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Grindor rotfgame trailer.jpg|thumb|250px|right|I copied another character&#039;s alt-mode &#039;cause [[Scavenger (ROTF)|all]] [[Buffalo MPV Decepticon|the]] [[Rampage (ROTF)|cool]] [[Mixmaster (ROTF)|&#039;cons]] [[Long Haul (ROTF)|were]] [[Scrapper (ROTF)|doing]] it.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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You have to get up pretty early in the morning to get one over on &#039;&#039;&#039;Grindor&#039;&#039;&#039;. A master strategist, and close combat specialist, Grindor can predict his opponents next move before they know it themselves. It&#039;s reached the point where it&#039;s less planning and more instinct on his part. With every possible move planned out beforehand, Grindor confidently wades into the center of battle, ready for any and all comers.&lt;br /&gt;
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Except [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|this guy]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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Don&#039;t confuse him with [[Blackout (Movie)|that guy]].&lt;br /&gt;
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{{bigquote|Objectives will win a battle, but it is sheer ruthlessness that will win a war.|Grindor&#039;s sagely advice to the Decepticons|&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen: The Game]]&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===Titan Magazines===&lt;br /&gt;
{{note|Unlike his bio, Grindor here comes off more like a working stiff.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:GrindorTitan_talkinghislanguage.jpg|thumb|left|250px|He and [[Raoul]] were in the same engineering course.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Grindor was dispatched to [[Las Vegas]] by [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]], who refused to tell him what he was looking for and directed him to [[Seeker (ROTF)|some old car]]. He was a bit fed up until he was told to cut open said car and remove its insides, fun fun fun! Once he&#039;d secured the Cybertronian &amp;quot;memory tree&amp;quot;, he came under attack by [[NEST]] forces intending to capture him. Using his rotors, he created a whirlwind that hurled cars at his enemies, but they easily managed to anchor him to the ground with an electrified cable before he could retreat.&lt;br /&gt;
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Luckily [[Skids (ROTF)|two]] [[Mudflap (ROTF)|dumbasses]] turned up and shot the cable off, allowing Grindor to escape! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.3|Learning Curve}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Titan_deceptitwins.jpg|thumb|right|250px|The scale here is so messed up.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, as part of Soundwave&#039;s plan, those two dumbasses were in the Decepticons, and poor Grindor had to put up with them jabbering in his ear. He pleaded with Soundwave to tell him that he didn&#039;t really trust them to bring in [[Ransack (ROTF)|Ransack]], and was relieved to find out they were just bait; when he asked what would happen if they survived, he was told he would make sure they didn&#039;t. Happy day! &lt;br /&gt;
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To his annoyance, the twins succeeded by talking instead of shooting. He agreed with [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] that this sort of thing was an abomination and must be stopped, and shot Ransack out the sky. Skids was able to keep him contained and occupied with suppressive fire, while Mudflap took down Sideways, but Grindor decided to just grab Ransack and bug out, leaving Sideways behind and threatening to get even with the twins another time. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.7|Turnabout}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Back at base, he sat in on Soundwave&#039;s interrogation of Ransack, but it was interrupted by the Autobot twins. Grindor took fire and was not seen again after that, presumably fleeing later with Soundwave. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.8|Back-to-Back}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; film===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Frank Welker]] &lt;br /&gt;
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Ordered by [[The Fallen]] to capture [[Sam Witwicky]] for the information that the [[AllSpark]] had imprinted in his mind, [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] led [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and Grindor to [[Earth]], waiting for the [[human]] boy to be flushed out by [[Alice|one of their agents]]. Grindor captured the humans&#039; escape vehicle and brought it to [[Broadwater Metal Works|an abandoned industrial facility]] where Starscream and Megatron were waiting. While Grindor waited outside, Megatron and [[Scalpel (ROTF)|Scalpel]] interrogated the boy, preparing to extract the information by removing his brain, a process that was interrupted by the arrival of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]. Optimus briefly fought off Megatron and Starscream before escaping with Sam into the woods.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ROTF Optimus vs Grindor.jpg|thumb|left|250px|I predict a checkmate in 4 mo-*stab*.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Megatron followed, but soon called for his soldiers to assist. Grindor played little part in the opening attack, grabbing the Autobot and sawing into his face before being knocked away, but eventually gathered on the outnumbered and outgunned but defiant Optimus Prime. The [[Autobot]] [[Prime (rank)|leader]] immediately unsheathed both [[Dual Energon Swords|battle blade]]s and attacked the Decepticons, cutting off Grindor&#039;s right arm, slashing into his chest, sending some of Starscream&#039;s artillery his way and throwing his right battle blade into the Decepticon&#039;s torso. Badly hurt, Grindor required some downtime before he could rejoin the battle, during which Optimus stabbed Megatron and knocked off Starscream&#039;s arm. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Grindor-ROTFhooks.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Well, at least unlike the other guy I don&#039;t get killed by an [[Blackout (Movie)|insect]]. Or shot in the crotch, for that matter.|beyond imagination]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Grindor was just pulling out the deenergized blade Prime had swung into him when the Autobot unleashed his [[Energon Hooks]] and jabbed it into his [[optic]], using the leverage to pull himself onto the Decepticon. Once on top, Prime then struck another hook into Grindor, then proceeded to &#039;&#039;tear his head apart&#039;&#039;, killing Grindor. As he pushed the lifeless hulk to the ground, Optimus contemptuously commented on the material Grindor was made of. &#039;&#039;(Tin, to be specific)&#039;&#039; {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; toy bios===&lt;br /&gt;
The meticulous Grindor&#039;s careful scheming and power of flight put him at a great advantage during an encounter with the Autobot [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]]. Only Ratchet doing something completely unpredictable could save him! {{storylink|#SurfaceToAirShowdown|Surface To Air Showdown bio}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers (2010) toy bios===&lt;br /&gt;
During a running battle with [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] through a city&#039;s streets, the flying Grindor stayed out of the mute Autobot&#039;s range and rained down explosives with &amp;quot;chaotic glee&amp;quot;. The rubber-burnin&#039; Bumblebee planned to bring Grindor down to his level by making him quickly maneuver past buildings, hoping his rotor would catch, and signs pointed to Grindor soon making a costly mistake... {{storylink|#Legends Class 2|Bombing Run Battle}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Grindor and [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] were sent to [[Tokyo]] to act as a diversion. After Barricade was located by the Autobots, Grindor hovered in the air and shot missiles at Optimus. Optimus responded by scaling the side of a nearby office tower and punching him out of the air. After crash-landing on Barricade, Grindor picked his comrade up and, after taking a moment to gloat that the diversion had worked, departed. {{storylink|Sam in Danger}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Games==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; - The Game===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Fred Tatasciore]] (English) [[Jarosław Boberek]] (Polish)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ROTFgame-Grindor.jpg|left|thumb|I have light blue parts! That&#039;s how you know.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Grindor served in a similar capacity amongst the Decepticons to that which [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] served for the Autobots - he was the Heavy Weapons Guy.  Big, slow, durable, and seriously over-armed with a machine gun and an energon wave cannon. Grindor could even drop off gun turrets for that extra added overkill.   &lt;br /&gt;
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During the Decepticons&#039; missions in [[China]], Grindor oversaw their supposedly secret mission in [[Shanghai]], until his forces were detected and routed by [[NEST]] and the Autobots. Imprisoned in the docks, [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] had to come and rescue his comrade. &lt;br /&gt;
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On the United States West Coast, Grindor was assigned to hack into NEST&#039;s communication network in the downtown area. Fighting through its Autobot [[Protectobot Scout|Protectobot]] defenders, Grindor managed to link up with each of the town&#039;s five communications arrays, furthering the Decepticon cause.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the East Coast, Grindor was assigned to capture Ladiesman217, designation Samuel Witwicky. After destroying the human&#039;s dorm building, Grindor took Witwicky to the nearby foundry where he would be interrogated by Megatron. However, during this process, the Autobots sent waves of Protectobots against Grindor in an attempt to save the boy, but they failed. {{Storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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While Grindor secured their position by deploying [[Combaticon (ROTF)|Combaticon]] and [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicon]] drones around the town, [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] arrived to rescue Sam. Assisted by his drones, the Decepticon almost overwhelmed the plucky little Autobot, but in the end Bumblebee reduced Grindor and his unit into scrap metal. {{Storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers Autobots/Decepticons===&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers: The Ride&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
Grindor flew into action when Megatron ordered the destruction of the Autobot Evac. He transformed and stomped through the streets, all the while swinging his rotor blades at the fleeing Autobot. He smashed himself partly through a tunnel that Evac had entered and reached out for him, when he realized too late that it was a train tunnel and that he was in the path of an oncoming train. The train sped by, bashing his upper body and face while severing his out-stretched arm and keeping him from catching Evac. His fate after the encounter is unknown.{{storylink|Transformers: The Ride}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Revenge of the Fallen===&lt;br /&gt;
====Legends Class toys====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF_Legends_Grindor.jpg|thumb|300px|No, I&#039;m not Blackout!  There is NO missing scene dammit!  We&#039;re nothing alike.  I would never let myself get shot in the balls.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Grindor&#039;&#039;&#039; (Legends, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039; Legends Grindor is a [[redeco]] of the [[Movie (franchise)|first movie]]&#039;s Legends class [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] toy in a light blue base color with digital camouflage. Legends Grindor is a small and highly simplified version of the character, featuring limited articulation and detail, with the helicopter mode not being a particularly faithful recreation of a [[wikipedia:MH-53_Pave_Low|Sikorsky MH-53 Pave Low]] heavy-lift helicopter. (The placement of the fuel tanks, in particular, makes him look more like a [[Wikipedia:CH-53 Sea Stallion|CH-53 Sea Stallion]].) Even though the robot mode sports an attempt to emulate the movie character&#039;s chest design, this does not involve the use of obvious fake elements of the helicopter mode&#039;s cockpit, unlike [[Jazz (Movie)|other]] Legends Class toys of movie characters. As with all wave three Legends figures, the photo on the back of the figure&#039;s packaging shows a mis-transformed robot mode, where his arms are not folded down.&lt;br /&gt;
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:This mold was also redecoed as [[Spinister (ROTF)|Spinister]] for the [[Kmart]]-[[exclusive]] &amp;quot;War for the Skies&amp;quot; battlepack.&lt;br /&gt;
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::*&#039;&#039;[http://tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/LegGrindor/grindor.htm More information on Grindor at TFU.info]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Voyager Class toys====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF_Voyager_Grindor.jpg|thumb|300px|Just you wait, someone will call him [[Leader-1 (GoBots)|Leader-1]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Grindor&#039;&#039;&#039; (Voyager, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;RD-18&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; Scorponok mini-figure &lt;br /&gt;
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:Grindor is a redeco of the first movie&#039;s Voyager class Blackout figure in a more military-accurate grey colour scheme. The little [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] mini-figure has been redecoed to reflect the colour changes on the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039; release of Deluxe class Scorponok (even though the two never appear together in the film).&lt;br /&gt;
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:Grindor transforms into a reasonably accurate MH-53 Pave Low. An aft &amp;quot;cage&amp;quot; compartment can be opened to release a small PVC figurine of his partner, Scorponok. A button under his tail rotor can be pressed in a geared action to rotate his rotor blades. By attaching the Deluxe-class Scorponok to his underside, the rotor [[gimmick]] also spins Scorponok&#039;s claws.&lt;br /&gt;
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: During transformation, Grindor&#039;s (mind-numbingly delicate) [[Automorph Technology|Automorphing]] gimmick is activated when the user swings down his legs, which in turn flips the gray chest section his head is mounted upon up and into position, and lifts his back assembly and locks it into place behind his head. Another, less impressive automorph is in his legs—if you pull his knees down, his shin armor pops out a bit. The entire rotor assembly on his back can be removed and converted into a gigantic fan weapon, to represent &#039;&#039;vaguely&#039;&#039; the hand-held rotor-blade weapon he and Blackout wield in the films. Because of the size of his rotor assembly, Grindor is also much shorter than most Voyager-class figures despite his bulk, barely taller than a Deluxe figure.&lt;br /&gt;
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: It is &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039; easy for the gears in the cockpit/chest to become misaligned during transformation, enough so that the chest/head section refuses to align with the cockpit halves. Getting the gears back into alignment is a veritable nightmare, as so many other parts shift and move as you attempt to manipulate the respective pieces. Swinging the legs down locks the back assembly into place for robot mode, but simply swinging the legs back does &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;un&#039;&#039;lock it, with the user being required to separate the parts actively by hand. Failing to do so is sure to misalign your Grindor to bejeezus.&lt;br /&gt;
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: An interesting side note is that the two hard points located on Grindor&#039;s shoulders, intended to support his abominably large weapon, are actually the same size as the [[Mini-Con]] [[Powerlinx]] plugs on most [[Unicron Trilogy]] figures.&lt;br /&gt;
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:The original Blackout release of this mold was retooled as &#039;&#039;[[Movie (toyline)|Movie]]&#039;&#039; [[Evac (Movie)|Evac]] and &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; [[Whirl (ROTF)|Whirl]].&lt;br /&gt;
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::*&#039;&#039;[http://tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/Grindor/grindor.htm More information on Grindor at TFU.info]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ROTFSurfaceToAirShowdown.jpg|thumb|300px|Unbeknownest to all, Grindor actually takes his name from his love of coffee.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Surface To Air Showdown&#039;&#039;&#039; (Voyager 2-pack, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; Scorponok mini-figure&lt;br /&gt;
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:A [[Costco]]-[[exclusive]] two-pack featuring Grindor squaring off against [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]], strangely reminiscent of Ratchet&#039;s fight with [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] in the [[Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|Transformers: Autobots]] Nintendo DS game. Both toys remain unchanged from their individual retail release.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Fast Action Battlers====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Grindor ROTF FAB toy.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Hey, is that Leader-1?]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Missile Assault Grindor&#039;&#039;&#039; (Fast Action Battler, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; Projectile&lt;br /&gt;
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:Missile Assault Grindor is a redeco of the first movie&#039;s Gyro Blade Blackout in a more military-accurate grey colour scheme. He is a simplified version of Grindor/Blackout design, designed for smaller children. His rotor blade can be detached and inserted into his left hand to represent the hand-held rotor blade seen in the film, just like the Voyager class version. He also features a chest cannon which can be flipped up from his back. Oddly, you can only see one-fourth of Grindor&#039;s head from a 90-degree angle. Even less of it is visible when his chest cannon is flipped up. He features a firing missile.&lt;br /&gt;
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::*&#039;&#039;[http://tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/FABGrindor/grindor.htm More information on Missile Assault Grindor at TFU.info]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers (2010)===&lt;br /&gt;
====Legends Class toys====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WMBombRunBattleBumblebeeGrindor.jpg|thumb|300px|Grindor tries to hide his tininess by pretending to be far away.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Bombing Run Battle&#039;&#039;&#039; (Walmart exclusive multi-pack, 2010)&lt;br /&gt;
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:This [[Walmart]] exclusive multi-pack contains a tan and orange [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]]-themed redeco of Legends class Grindor and a redeco of Deluxe class [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys|Cannon Bumblebee]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|Blackout. Grindor. They all look the same to me.|[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]|&amp;quot;[[Transformers Comic issue 2.10|Law and Disorder]]&amp;quot;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Although his toys (and seemingly the CG model of his robot mode) are identical to Blackout&#039;s, and although the toys&#039; packaging retains Pave Low [[licensed vehicle alternate modes|licensing]] information, Grindor&#039;s alt mode in the movie is in fact a [[Wikipedia:CH-53E_Super_Stallion|Sikorsky CH-53E Super Stallion]]—essentially a slightly upsized Pave Low operated by the [[United States Marine Corps|US Marine Corps]]. The ROTF video games include licensing information for the Super Stallion instead of the Pave Low. The alt mode switch may be explained by the retirement of the USAF&#039;s Pave Lows in 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
*Frank Welker is not credited for the voice of Grindor in the credits of the film itself, but his &amp;quot;[http://www.frankwelker.net/ Official Homepage]&amp;quot; would later credit him for the role. While we&#039;re not entirely convinced that the page wasn&#039;t simply updated by someone who read it on Wikipedia, the &amp;quot;sheeeagh&amp;quot; that Grindor lets out as Optimus Prime rips his head apart is pretty unmistakeably Welker.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039; never explicitly establishes Grindor as a separate character from Blackout. Screenwriter [[Roberto Orci]], when asked, was not sure whether they were supposed to be the same character or not.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;orci&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/180451-welcome-mr-roberto-orci-you-may-ask-him-questions-283.html#post3785383 Q&amp;amp;A with Roberto Orci at TFW2005]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the [[Hasbro Q&amp;amp;A/July 2009: Answers|{{SITENAME_SHORT}} Hasbro Q&amp;amp;A for July 2009]], it was confirmed that Grindor, not Blackout, appears in the movie.&lt;br /&gt;
*In the novel, his name is never used, just a &#039;&#039;&#039;huge Russian helicopter&#039;&#039;&#039;. Who can blame them, [[Roberto Orci]] couldn&#039;t remember it either.&lt;br /&gt;
*Internal files for the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039; video game identify this character as Blackout, indicating that the game had been developed with the understanding that they were the same character... but had dialog re-recorded to refer to him as Grindor.&lt;br /&gt;
*On the [[cross-sell]] for &amp;quot;[[The Fury of Fearswoop]]&amp;quot; multipack, Grindor is mistakenly given the name Blackout. Still, at least he remained [[Long Haul (ROTF)|a Decepticon.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*The master strategic skills and battle prowess his on-package bio goes on about come off a little less than impressive when you realize his tech specs give him a &amp;quot;Skill&amp;quot; level of... 4.  That makes him one better at his job than [[Skids (ROTF)|these]] [[Mudflap (ROTF)|guys]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Grindor only has six main rotor blades on his back while a normal CH-53E Super Stallion has seven main rotor blades. Strangely, his anti-torque tail rotor blade weapon in the film appears to have six blades like Blackout while a normal Super Stallion has four blades on the anti-torque tail rotor.&lt;br /&gt;
*In &#039;&#039;[[Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe]]&#039;&#039;, Blackout is featured instead of Grindor. Guess [[Simon Furman|the writer]] didn&#039;t get the memo in time.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Foreign names===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Japanese:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Grindor&#039;&#039;&#039; (グラインダー &#039;&#039;Guraindā&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Costco exclusives]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen Decepticons]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Strategists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Transformers (2010) Decepticons]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;Mission City is a city from the [[Movie (franchise)|Movie]] [[continuity family]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Mission City.JPG|right|300px|thumb|City motto? Life is pain.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Mission City&#039;&#039;&#039; is a city in the [[United States of America]]. It may rival [[San Francisco]] as &amp;quot;worst place to live&amp;quot;, because it&#039;s the kind of place where [[Dispensor|Mountain Dew machines]] thirst for human blood, [[Xbox 360 robot|Xbox 360s]] play with the lives of their owners, and [[Steering wheel robot|steering wheels]] tend to [[kiss]] their drivers. It also had the poor fortune to be the location where the [[Autobot]]s and the [[Decepticon]]s threw down for control of the [[AllSpark]].  &lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s located 22 miles north of the [[Hoover Dam]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[William Lennox]] explicitly states their distance from the dam in [[Transformers (film)|the 2007 movie]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Its downtown has lots of Classically-detailed buildings from the early 20th Century which tend to shatter spectacularly when [[Transformer|giant robots]] smash into them.  [[Interstate 95]] runs through it, somehow. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] follows [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]] along Mission City&#039;s Interstate 95 in &amp;quot;[[Cyber Missions 3]].&amp;quot;  The real world&#039;s Interstate 95 runs up and down the United State&#039;s east coast.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; (2007) movie===&lt;br /&gt;
As [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] began to thaw, [[William Lennox|Captain Lennox]] suggested that they move the All Spark to Mission City, where it would be easier to contact and rendezvous with military airlift to take it to safety. Defense Secretary [[John Keller (Movie)|John Keller]] agreed with him, despite the risk of attack from pursuing Decepticons. [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] converted the All Spark to a more portable form, and he and a military escort, soon augmented by the Autobots, left for the city. &lt;br /&gt;
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En route, [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] left the escort to battle [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]], while the other Autobots continued into downtown Mission City. Their human allies, meanwhile, had summoned F-22 Air Force fighters to provide aerial support.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Movie MissionCityBattle1.jpg|left|250px|thumb|[[Dark Star|Ironhide is the first person in some twenty years to consider Starscream a serious threat... with good reason for once.]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
Captain Lennox procured several short-wave radios to contact the hoped-for aerial support, intending to summon Blackhawk helicopters to extract the All Spark. They soon sighted a lone F-22 overhead and called for support, marking their location with green smoke.  Too late, the Autobots realized that the incoming fighter was in fact [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]. [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] ordered the humans and other Autobots to fall back, as he and Bumblebee lifted a truck to shield them from Starscream&#039;s attack. The resulting explosion crippled Bumblebee, severing his legs below the knees.&lt;br /&gt;
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As the humans realized the deception, they finally heard back from actual incoming Blackhawks, but they then came under attack from [[Brawl (Movie)|Brawl]].  [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]], [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] and Ironhide all rushed to attack as the human soldiers fell back. [[Mikaela Banes|Mikaela]] spotted a tow truck nearby and ran to procure it, while the crippled Bumblebee handed the All Spark off to [[Sam Witwicky|Sam]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Movie MissionCityBattle2.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Yeah, let&#039;s triple-team the guy who is suffering an identity crisis. That&#039;s fair.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Ironhide rushed Brawl head-on, transforming and vaulting over an extremely hot woman with a huge mouth, all the while dodging two of the Decepticon&#039;s missiles. Jazz attacked from another direction, yanking the Decepticon&#039;s main gun aside. Brawl transformed and tossed Jazz into a building. Ironhide fired on the Decepticon, while Ratchet and Jazz attacked from both sides, Ratchet using a [[saw]] blade to slice off one of Brawl&#039;s arms. The humans joined the Autobots in blasting Brawl, until a series of shots from Ratchet knocked the Decepticon to the ground.&lt;br /&gt;
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While Mikaela worked to hotwire the tow truck, [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] landed in the city streets, prompting the Autobots to call a retreat. Jazz stayed behind and engaged the much larger Decepticon, getting blasted aside for his efforts.  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Movie2007 Jazz fighting Megatron.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Autobots, attack! ...Guys?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Mikaela drove the tow truck over to Sam and Bumblebee. Megatron, meanwhile, carried Jazz through the air, crushing him under his feet atop a building, then pulling him out. Jazz fired on Megatron causing his armor to weaken, but the massive Decepticon tore him in half.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the ground, Captain Lennox&#039;s troops observed Brawl getting back to his feet, as well as the arrival of Blackout, who transformed and landed atop a building behind them. Under sporadic hostile fire, Lennox led his troops back to Bumblebee&#039;s position as Sam and Mikaela worked to hook Bumblebee to the tow truck. Lennox handed a flare to Sam and ordered him to take the All Spark to a nearby rooftop, while [[Robert Epps|Sergeant Epps]] summoned their Blackhawk support to pick him up. Ratchet and Ironhide promised Sam that they would protect him as he carried out the mission.  After a quick farewell to Mikaela, Sam fled.&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron (from somewhere) ordered the Decepticons to [[Decepticons, attack|attack]], prompting Devastator to fire. Ratchet and Ironhide provided cover fire as Sam ran.  Blackout attacked from the other side, and Ironhide engaged him. Blackout bashed aside the car that Ironhide tossed at him, then transformed and flew away. Mikaela finished securing Bumblebee and drove him off, as Brawl continued his lumbering advance.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Movie MissionCityBattle4.jpg|right|250px|thumb|This is the only time Prime and Megs got to use their signature weapons. You fail us yet again, Michael Bay.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Optimus Prime arrived after his delay on the freeway, transforming and challenging Megatron. Still perched atop his building, Megatron tossed away the remains of Jazz and transformed. He scooped up Prime and took him for a dizzying ride through the streets and buildings of the city, smashing through an entire office building at one point before crashing to the street. The two exchanged their respective views on humanity and fisticuffs. Prime managed to get in a shot at Megatron, but a blast from Megatron&#039;s main gun hurled Prime down the street and into the side of another building, prompting viewers to wonder why Michael Bay hates architecture so much.  Prime then fell to the street amid a small crowd of panicked humans, some of whom may or may not have been crushed.&lt;br /&gt;
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With Ratchet and Ironhide alongside him, Sam continued sprinting for the building.  Blackout landed in the street and sliced at Sam with his rotor weapon, but did not attempt to capture him. Starscream also landed nearby and engaged Ratchet and Ironhide, blasting them both. Starscream then transformed and launched again as the two Autobots collapsed. Sam continued onwards. &lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron flew down from the sky and transformed, demanding that Sam give up the All Spark. As Sam darted through traffic, a near-collision with an SUV made him drop the cube, unleashing a pulse of its power. The pulse brought several machines to life, including part of the SUV and a [[Dispensor|Mountain Dew vending machine]].  &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Movie Brawl dies.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Gah! Heartburn!]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Meanwhile, in [[Detroit]]...&#039;&#039;  Sam sprinted into the abandoned building, pursued by Megatron, who smashed through a floor practically on Sam&#039;s heels but failed to stop him from entering a fire stairwell.&lt;br /&gt;
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Mikaela and Bumblebee stopped in an alley, while Sam continued climbing and Lennox&#039;s troops continued fighting against Brawl. Mikaela was crying, hitting the wheel in frustration, then turned to look at Bumblebee, who nodded. After a moment of preparation, Mikaela backed the tow truck into the street so that Bumblebee was facing forwards, then drove it full speed in reverse into the battle scene.  Under heavy attack from two directions, Brawl suffered heavy damage, before a final shot from Bumblebee hit him in the chest, bringing him down for good.  He collapsed into the building where Lennox&#039;s troops had taken shelter.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Movie Megatron Samonroof.jpg|right|250px|thumb|It depends...how well do you take care of your pets?]]&lt;br /&gt;
As the Blackhawks closed in, Sam reached the rooftop and activated his flare.  Starscream transformed and landed on a nearby building as the helicopters pulled up to the rooftop. Sam was inches away from handing off the All Spark when Starscream shot the waiting Blackhawk out of the sky. Optimus Prime sprinted toward the building, determined to save Sam. Starscream continued watching from nearby while Megatron bashed his way onto the rooftop. Cornering Sam, Megatron demanded the All Spark, then unsheathed a barbed mace and bashed the building out from under Sam&#039;s feet when he refused. Optimus Prime, suspended most of the way up the building, caught the falling human. Prime then vaulted/fell down to street level, with Megatron close behind. The two metal titans smashed into the street, scattering still more panicked humans, [[Michael Bay|one]] of whom got himself flicked aside by Megatron.&lt;br /&gt;
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Prime ordered Sam to take shelter behind him and to push the All Spark into his chest if he was unable to defeat Megatron. As the two leaders laid into one another a second time, Lennox&#039;s troops moved in on their position. They stopped and observed as Blackout transformed, landed, and moved in to assist his leader. Epps called in a full air strike on Blackout and Megatron, advising that the targets would be marked. The troops then marked Blackout with green laser light as the F-22s closed in. Meanwhile, Lennox secured a fallen motorcycle.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Movie MissionCityBattle5.jpg|left|250px|thumb|WWWWHHHHEEEEEEEE!!!]]&lt;br /&gt;
Blackout was about to fire when he noticed the lasers lighting him up, so he instead turned to engage the soldiers, opening fire. Lennox raced at him on his motorcycle, evading Blackout&#039;s blasts and purposefully going into a long skid/slide along the ground. As Blackout was hit by fire from the F-22s, Lennox slid past and under him, firing several rounds directly up into the Decepticon&#039;s chest and crotch. (&#039;&#039;Ow!!&#039;&#039;)  The Decepticon fell dead to the pavement. Lennox urged his troops onward as Megatron appeared to be getting the upper hand over Optimus.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Movie Prime Jazz Ironhide Ratchet battleaftermath.jpg|right|250px|thumb|&amp;quot;Prime, could we maybe discuss this some time when you&#039;re not holding a corpse?&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
As a second wave of F-22s approached the city, Starscream appeared in their midst, destroying three of them before the pilots realized what was happening. The surviving pilots attempted to engage the Decepticon. Several of the F-22s survived to make an attack run on Megatron, firing on him while Lennox&#039;s troops also attacked him, damaging his chest. Megatron advanced on Sam, and Prime urged him to push the cube into Prime&#039;s chest. Instead, Sam opted to push it into Megatron, killing him.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Ratchet and Ironhide arrived then, carrying the remains of Jazz, and Mikaela and Bumblebee reached the scene soon afterward. Prime thanked the humans for their effort and sacrifice. Bumblebee requested to stay with Sam.  Prime granted the request, then extracted a sliver of the All Spark from Megatron&#039;s body. &lt;br /&gt;
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Initial media reports called the attack &amp;quot;so-called alien activity&amp;quot; but the US government denied aliens had caused the Mission City destruction. {{storylink|Transformers (film)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; film novelization===&lt;br /&gt;
{{note|For unknown reasons, here the Battle of Mission City was moved to [[Las Vegas]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Bumblebee and Lennox&#039;s convoy headed for Las Vegas.&#039;&#039; — [[Movie (books)|Del Rey Books]], &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;[[Transformers (novel)|Transformers]]&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;, p249, ([[2007]])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{storylink|Transformers (novel)|Transformers (novel)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Titan Magazines &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; movie comics===&lt;br /&gt;
Wow, it sure is lucky for Mission City that all of the above &#039;&#039;didn&#039;t&#039;&#039; happen there but happened in [[Los Angeles]] instead! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 7|Starscream&#039;s Militia}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Two years on, and Starscream is still unclear about why Optimus lured the Decepticons to this heavily populated city when he claims to like humans. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 22|#22&#039;s Star Screams}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===IDW &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; movie prequel comics===&lt;br /&gt;
In the aftermath of the battle, Lennox&#039;s soldiers became acquainted with the Autobots whilst they hunted [[Xbox 360 robot|mutated]] [[Dispensor|transformers]] created by the released All Spark energies. Optimus Prime requested Lennox&#039;s help in allowing the Autobots to transport Jazz&#039;s remains out of Mission City whilst evading untrustworthy humans such as those from Sector Seven. When a suitable abandoned truck trailer found, the assembled soldiers had a moment of silence as Ironhide placed Jazz&#039;s body inside. Soon after the Autobots left, [[Seymour Simmons|Agent Simmons]] and Sector Seven arrived to take away the dead Decepticons. {{storylink|Alliance issue 1|Alliance #1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;The Veiled Threat&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
According to &#039;&#039;[[The National Enquirer]]&#039;&#039;, the battle was caused by Elvis&#039;s robot alien offspring. {{storylink|Transformers: The Veiled Threat|The Veiled Threat}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===The Real Effing Deal===&lt;br /&gt;
The official story is &amp;quot;several biomechanical prototypes by [[Mendelson Robotics]]&amp;quot; went haywire by accident; the government cleared Mendelson of any wrongdoing. The leaked Department of Defence reports also said that the tales of giant robots fighting are &#039;&#039;completely&#039;&#039; unfounded, even though their official story is &#039;&#039;it was big robots&#039;&#039;. No wonder certain bloggers worked out the cover story was crap. {{storylink|The Real Effing Deal}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
See above, except replace &amp;quot;Mendelson&amp;quot; with [[McClaren Robotics|&#039;&#039;McClaren&#039;&#039; Robotics]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Except when it&#039;s [[Massive Dynamics]]. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (novel)|Revenge of the Fallen (novel)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Some of which claimed the battle took place in [[Los Angeles]]. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen (film)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The terrifying thing is that this half-arsed cover-up actually &#039;&#039;worked&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cyber Missions===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] pursued [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]] through Mission City when Lockdown set off some explosives which caused some damage to the roadway that would have to be explained by [[NEST]]. Lockdown got away with Ratchet&#039;s [[Electromagnetic pulse|EMP]] blaster. {{storylink|Cyber Missions 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Related characters==&lt;br /&gt;
===Kid on freeway===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Actor:&#039;&#039; [[Chip Hormess]]&lt;br /&gt;
This young man was riding on the freeway to Mission City when [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|two]] [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|robots]] suddenly fell off the overpass and landed in their lane. His mother barely skidding their car to a halt, the kid watched in shock as one of the robots was struck so hard one of its [[Sensors|eyes]] popped out and it was knocked off the overpass on which they were sitting. As the other robot jumped after it, the kid said that the whole thing was cool. &lt;br /&gt;
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===SUV driver===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Actor:&#039;&#039; [[Odette Yustman]]&lt;br /&gt;
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This young woman and two of her friends were driving around in her SUV when [[Sam Witwicky|some kid]] nearly ran into her car. Failing to noticed the panicked bystanders running in the opposite direction, the woman asked if &amp;quot;that jerk&amp;quot; had dented her car. This was quickly forgotten as she noticed her [[Steering wheel robot|steering wheel]] had come to life. It proceeded to wrap itself around her face. Her fate is unknown, but [[Transformers: Kiss Players (franchise)|things are not looking good]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Woman in blue===&lt;br /&gt;
This woman had the unfortunate circumstance of being caught in the middle of [[Brawl (Movie)|a tank]] firing shells at [[Ironhide (Movie)|a truck]]. As the truck [[Transformation|changed]] into a giant robot, it proceeded to do some questionably useful (but fun to see) somersaults over the missiles being shot at it, landing right near the woman and totally scaring the crap out of her. Of course, this raises another question: If a tank was shelling something, why did she stop right in its line of fire?&lt;br /&gt;
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===Xbox owner===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Actor:&#039;&#039; [[Bob Stephenson]]&lt;br /&gt;
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This man was proudly carrying his newly purchased [[Xbox 360]] down the street (as you do) when some sort of [[energon|energy]] surged from some [[AllSpark|object]] that a kid was carrying. He heard the Xbox activate, he saw that it had [[Xbox 360 robot|sprouted arms]] that were trying to attack him. Despite the fact that it probably cost a great deal of money, the owner threw the Xbox away, deciding that it wasn&#039;t worth his life.&lt;br /&gt;
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Remember that, people: Gaming is not worth your life!&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Roberto Orci]] confirmed they had considered having the film climax at the [[Grand Canyon]], which is close to the [[Hoover Dam]] and would&#039;ve endangered a lot less civilians. [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/180451-welcome-mr-roberto-orci-you-may-ask-him-questions-221.html#post3399075]&lt;br /&gt;
*At [[BotCon 2007]], at one of the movie&#039;s writers&#039; panels, they explained that the original intent behind taking the All Spark to the city was not to &amp;quot;hide&amp;quot; it there, but simply to use the city as a rendezvous point, someplace relatively near the dam that might have a working radio they could use to call for help.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers: The Junior Novel]] set the final battle in the ostensibly non-fictional city of [[Las Vegas]] instead of Mission City, since it was set there in early drafts of the script. [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/180451-welcome-mr-roberto-orci-you-may-ask-him-questions-220.html#post3395250]&lt;br /&gt;
* Most of the city skyline shots clearly show Los Angeles. The downtown street scenes were primarily filmed there as well. No wonder [[Fassbinder]] was confused.&lt;br /&gt;
* The abandoned building that Sam runs into, however, is actually the long-abandoned [[wikipedia:Michigan Central Station|Michigan Central Depot]], located in [[Detroit]].&lt;br /&gt;
* And because things weren&#039;t muddled enough, the Mission City diorama backdrop in the [[Longarm (Movie)|Final]] [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Stand]] Screen Battles set is actually a Photoshopped version of Scranton, Pennsylvania. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.oafe.net/yo/tfm_sbfs.php OAFE review of The Final Stand Screen Battles set]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* The battle of Mission City, portrayed in &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039;, contains several editing and plot errors, as well as some  confusing editing choices (over and above Michael Bay&#039;s characteristic Shakey Cam point of view):&lt;br /&gt;
** During Optimus and Bonecrusher&#039;s fight as Bonecrusher skates through the bus causing it to burst into flames, no one is actually in the bus. Perhaps it was a previously unseen Autobot.&lt;br /&gt;
** It&#039;s not entirely clear where some of the Decepticons go during the battle, or why. Starscream defeats Ratchet and Ironhide, but then flies away instead of finishing them off or making a grab for Sam and the All Spark. Blackout is nearby at this point and would also seem to have an opportunity to secure the human, but he disappears after slicing up the street outside the diner, not reappearing until Megatron and Optimus begin their final fight.&lt;br /&gt;
** There&#039;s a long period where Jazz is not doing &#039;&#039;anything&#039;&#039;. He&#039;s standing around in vehicle mode when Ironhide notices that the F-22 flying above the city is Starscream, stays in vehicle mode when Ironhide and Bumblebee pick up a Furby delivery truck for cover, &#039;&#039;still&#039;&#039; remains in vehicle mode when Starscream blasts them, and after Sam discovers that Bumblebee has lost his legs, all Jazz does is pull back for a few feet to give Bumblebee space to crawl. In the end, Jazz doesn&#039;t really join the battle &#039;&#039;at all&#039;&#039; until Brawl shows up.&lt;br /&gt;
** For that matter, the fact that Starscream completely incapacitates Ironhide and Ratchet (they&#039;re absent from the last eleven minutes of the fight) is not made clear. When we last see them, they are falling down, but Ironhide is still talking and moving, albeit with a fair amount of struggle.&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]], meanwhile, never shows up &#039;&#039;at all&#039;&#039;. Presumably he was fighting Optimus Prime off-screen, accounting for the Autobot leader&#039;s late arrival; Prime&#039;s delay seems too long to be accounted for solely by his very short fight with [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]] and the following travel time.&lt;br /&gt;
** Why didn&#039;t Bumblebee use the All Spark to restore himself as Frenzy had done? Most likely because he was unaware the All Spark &#039;&#039;had&#039;&#039; such healing properties.&lt;br /&gt;
** Also unclear is why the military thought they could smuggle the All Spark out of town on a slow-moving helicopter, when fast-flying guys like Starscream and Megatron were around and well aware of the cube&#039;s location.&lt;br /&gt;
** Fans have speculated that Starscream actually participated in the F-22 attack run on Megatron.  While there&#039;s no concrete evidence either way, it doesn&#039;t make much sense for him to be destroying the jets beforehand if he&#039;s just going to turn around and help them in their mission a few seconds later. When asked about it, screenwriter Roberto Orci explicitly refused to address this theory since it would pose a plot thread for the sequel. This turned out not to be the case, and it was never addressed in &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; or &#039;&#039;Dark of the Moon&#039;&#039;. Meanwhile, IDW&#039;s [[The Reign of Starscream issue 1]] has Starscream consider this an option, but soon has the decision taken from his hands.&lt;br /&gt;
** Epps emphatically states that F-22 pilots would &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; fly between buildings, as they&#039;d just observed Starscream doing. Yet a few minutes later, that&#039;s &#039;&#039;exactly&#039;&#039; what the real F-22s do. (However, it&#039;s possible that with Megatron and the other Decepticons currently battling in the streets, protocol was waived for the missile strikes.)&lt;br /&gt;
** At the end of the Jazz/Megatron battle, Megatron rips Jazz in half. Several minutes later, Optimus Prime walks up to Megatron, who is still holding Jazz&#039;s corpse. Why he was holding said carcass for such a long period of time is not made clear, but evidence from the movie&#039;s novelisation and several other media suggests that Megatron could have been consuming Jazz&#039;s spark.&lt;br /&gt;
** The denizens of Mission City are &#039;&#039;remarkably&#039;&#039; well-composed considering that global communications networks have been shut down. You&#039;d think there&#039;d be a bit more panic in the streets... especially with all the audible explosions, and people fleeing from previous battlegrounds.  Yet nobody &#039;&#039;ever&#039;&#039; panics until those freaking giant robots come literally crashing into the next nearby building. You&#039;d think the girl whose steering wheel is brought to life by the Allspark would have bigger problems than Sam denting her car... such as those giant robots fighting everywhere.&lt;br /&gt;
*During the fight, soemone says &amp;quot;Decepticons, attack!&amp;quot; While many people say it was Megatron, it does sound too close to be him. It is quite possible it was Brawl who said this, making this his only line in the movie.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Cities in the United States]]&lt;br /&gt;
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