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Talk:Aspects of Evil!

2011-07-17T23:44:27Z

95.148.10.183:

==Apocryphal?==

I have tot ake issue with Scorponk's tale (at least) being considered 'apocraphyl.' It takes place in Earthforce continuity, where Scorponok lost the Decepticon Civil War in US #72. IIRC, this is mentioned in The Magnificent Six! as well, which is another Earthforce tale. (And I'd bet that the Megatron tale fit there too.)

Aside the fct that it ''does'' fit in continuity... I'm really uncomfortable with the wiki throwing around terms like 'apocryphal', which is about one shade short of declaring an inconvenient story non-cannon. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:58, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

:The time-travel does make it all very confusing. Rather than it happening in the Earthforce timeline, though, I'd say it makes a heck of a lot more sense for it to have happened in the original, unaltered "movieverse" timeline (Earth-120185, if you like), before history was re-written, post-Time-Wars. Like "Legacy of Unicron," it's an experience Hot Rod/Rodimus had before history was altered, but which he still remembers. Same for the Shockwave and Megatron stories. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 19:40, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Out of curiosity - it was my feeling that the Megatron shown in the flashback is actually Straxus-Megatron, since I had formed the impression he was operating out of Helix. Was I right in assuming this, or would you guys say it was definitely, uh, Megatron-Megatron? --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 10:22, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
:If the assumption that the original Galvatron (T2006-Time Wars) was made from Strauxs-Megatron (given that he remembers events through his eyes during Time Wars) is correct, and if one assumes as I do that the Megatron AoE story occurs in the pre-Time-Wars movieverse timeline, then logically, yeah, that would be Straxus-Megatron.
:...my brain itches. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:58, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

I have to confess, for me things make a lot more sense if you read that ''Time Wars'' changed history from 1989 on, and that the Galvatron who comes back in ''Target 2006'' et al is in fact made from the Straxus Megatron, having lasted a lot longer in this timeline. (I especially like that idea because it means the original Megatron might be wandering around the post-Movie future somewhere!) On the other hand, I do acknowledge that it's possible to read it that The Movie follows some years after ''Generation 2'' (so only the one timeline here) and that the ''Target 2006'' Galvatron is the original Megatron and some prefer it that way. Personal canon an' all, y'know. --[[User:Ratbat|Ratbat]] 11:45, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

There are two timelines here, pre 86 movie and the revised timeline. we don't know anything what happened in the revised timeline before rodimus arrived there after time wars except that galvatron did not go back in time. [[Special:Contributions/95.148.10.183|95.148.10.183]] 19:44, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

Talk:Time Wars

2011-07-17T21:45:12Z

95.148.10.183: /* Soundwave and the Terrorcons */ new section

Every time I saw that image, I felt like I had to give it that caption. I decided to finally just do it. Change it back (or to something new) if you don't like it. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 18:38, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
==Issue Names==
I call shenanigans on the issue names. Just because that's what the "next time" says, does that mean that that's automatically the issue title?--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 00:08, 3 June 2010 (EDT)

== Target: 2006 style? ==

Time Wars, unlike the city of fear and Fallen Angel storyline, of being considered one issue. But it is 7 isues worth of stuff, and I think it deserves to have little summaries on individual issues likes the Target: 2006 article.

== Soundwave and the Terrorcons ==

Which future should they return to? Their own that they had previously left or the revised future that Rodimus Prime and the other five Autobots travel to? There's no definite answer here since its not shown either way so all we can do is speculate. They left moments before the time rift occurred so its possible that regular time travel mechanics are still in place, unaffected by the time rift's repair to the damaged spacetime framework. [[Special:Contributions/95.148.10.183|95.148.10.183]] 17:45, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

Talk:Straxus (G1)

2011-07-17T21:29:30Z

95.148.10.183: /* Straxus Becomes Galvatron? */

So, Generations "Darkmount" was at ToyFair? I can't find any mention of him outside this wiki. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:39, 14 February 2010 (EST)
:[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/toy-fair-2010-presentation-screenshots-of-sdcc-blaster-straxus-masterpiece-grimlock-and-more/17867/] [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 07:41, 14 February 2010 (EST)
::Approximately half the sites call him "Darkhead" for some reason. Pictures be floating about, even though people were asked not to take them. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 07:44, 14 February 2010 (EST)
:::Thanks. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:46, 14 February 2010 (EST)
::::FWIW, we were only asked not to take them so as not to flash in the eyes of the presenters, not because anything was a secret; Hasbro said all the pics were going to be given to us anyway. It turned out Straxus' pics had come in from the shop too last-minute to have been added to the press kits. So, good on the shutterbugs. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 04:53, 15 February 2010 (EST)

=="Tank" vs "Self-Propelled Gun"==
I realize there's probably a 99% chance his card copy will say "tank" regardless, but it would be more in-keeping with the character history if he's actually a [[Wikipedia:Self-propelled gun|self-propelled gun]]? I'll probably add a note to that extent soon. Is there ANY way for us to get official confirmation in advance? For some reason I'm really fixating on this, I even directed the toy pics to a military hobbyist site to see if they could nail down the make and model of the vehicle mode. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 04:53, 15 February 2010 (EST)
: What feels wrong about this to me is that most of the images of self-propelled guns I'm seeing have really short barrels, and usually multiples of them, keeping with the idea that they're anti-aircraft weapons stuck on a vehicle. Darkmount doesn't keep in line with this, having a more traditional tank barrel. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:36, 15 February 2010 (EST)
::That's strange, cause a quick Google search just turned up oodles and skoodles of images of vehicles with single, massive barrels that most civilians would unhesitatingly call "tanks". [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:45, 15 February 2010 (EST)
:::The linked article shows numerous examples of s.p.g's that have single gigantic gunbarrels; most are anti-tank guns or mobile Howitzers used for over-the-horizon city bombardment. But here's the weird thing: the only half-track s.p.g's I can find are of the type Walky described: small multi-barrels, usually of WW2 vintage. Meanwhile, I can't find any specimens of a half-track true tank at all.--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 09:20, 15 February 2010 (EST)
::::Half-tracks were never used for tank chassis. Half-tracks were pretty much always troop transports or similar. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 09:37, 15 February 2010 (EST)
:::::This is the sort of geekery that I think should live on the wiki, and in fact does live in altmode discussions of many other characters. If the final packaging ends up saying "tank" it could still be appropriate to at least mention the possibility; cobras aren't vipers, as we note on [[Night Viper]]. FWIW, some military fanboys weighed in here: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=42398 --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 23:00, 17 February 2010 (EST)
::::::I am not sure I agree with having half of Darkmount's toy writeup be about whether he's a self-propelled gun or a tank. It's really irrelevant, considering his vehicle mode seems to be entirely made-up. His cockpit is a windowed affair on the front corner, for gods sake. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:34, 17 February 2010 (EST)
:::::::I may have gone overboard initially--especially considering that we can't even show a good pic of the toy yet--so I've shortened it.
:::::::FWIW, about that windowed cockpit up front: http://www.army-technology.com/projects/g6/g63.html --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 10:11, 18 February 2010 (EST)

== Dead Link and Title Thoughts ==

Just in case it's not known already, wanted to point out the "Obscure Omnibus" link seems to be dead at the moment. And on a random side note, part of me wishes Hasbro had thought to call him "Lord Darkmount" then we could more easily pretend it was his title as ruler of Darkmount castle, kinda like James McCullen is "Lord Destro." Though... that still kinda works, doesn't it, as he's usually just called Destro. Lord Byron was frequently called just Byron as well. I think in my own mind I'm gonna likewise consider "Darkmount" as Straxus's "aristocratic title." --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:56, 20 April 2010 (EDT)
:Using a regional name as a personified noun is common in journalism and historical writing, so it can still be a synonym for the government (and in this case, the dictator). "Russia today declared that it would withdraw from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. And in other news, Darkmount announced that fools within its borders would receive no mercy, only death."--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 15:19, 20 April 2010 (EDT)

== Triple Changer? ==

Straxus is currently in the [[:Category:Triple Changers|Triple Changers]] category because of what was said about his Generations toy at Toy Fair. Maybe he should be demoted from an official [[Triple Changer]] to a [[:Category:Transformers with three modes|Transformer with three modes]]. His third mode isn't even mentioned on the packaging. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:22, 29 December 2010 (EST)

== Straxus Becomes Galvatron? ==

I don't believe this was ever even slightly hinted at anywhere in the Marvel U.K. comics. Straxus' mind is trapped within a duplicate of Megatron's body, goes to Earth, participates in the Time Wars and then returns to Cybertron to commit suicide. There is no indication of any other Straxus-Megatron existing in any other Marvel U.K. timeline. Least of all one that later becomes Galvatron. [[Special:Contributions/95.148.10.137|95.148.10.137]] 10:08, 13 January 2011 (EST)
:It's not that it was hinted at in the stories at the time, but more of a retroactive thing. For almost the entirety of the Straxus-Megatron clone's existence, he was treated as the real Megatron. That's who the writer considered him to be when he was writing the story - the clone thing only came in later as a necessary explanation. And so, Galvatron remembers the events of ''Time Wars'' as Megatron sees them, because Megatron is his past self. Except later, it turned out that the Megatron from ''Time Wars'' was... Straxus-Megatron. This indicated the possibility that he could have been the Megatron who got turned into Galvatron, since they shared memories. ''Time Wars'' proceeded to change history, and so he died and the real Megatron became Galvatron instead. It's not an absolute, merely a possibility spawned as the result of a retcon. As the article says, sarcastically, "It's all very simple, isn't it?" - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:19, 13 January 2011 (EST)
:: Chris beat me to it. In Time Wars, Galvatron remembers seeing the events of the day through the participating Megatron's eyes. ...however, it was revealed later that the participating Megatron was the Straxus clone. The page doesn't really deal with this information terribly well. If Derik didn't write that trailing italicized portion at the end of the Marvel section, I'll eat my hat. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:20, 13 January 2011 (EST)
:::I don't see Derik in the revision history... [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 11:22, 13 January 2011 (EST)
::::That's because the passage in question predates the editing history we have. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:28, 13 January 2011 (EST)
:::::Actually, I didn't find it over on [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Straxus_(G1)&limit=500&showall=0&action=history Teletraan I's Straxus's article], while the line ''is'' there. Seems that one "Borf the Dwarf" added it. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 11:32, 13 January 2011 (EST)
::::::Actually, I think it might have been ''me''! Not the "very simple" part, but the rest, I think! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:43, 13 January 2011 (EST)
I think we're confusing exactly who's who and who is from which timeline here. The Galvatron from 2006 thats been appearing throughout the Marvel U.K. comics is from the '86 movie timeline. The Marvel comics is seperate, following a timeline where the '86 movie cannot happen. It is therefore logical to believe that the events prior to the '86 movie don't match the events as shown in the Marvel comics.

Look at the second page of the Time Wars Part 7 story. The third panel shows Galvatron from the '86 movie timeline and the Straxus-Megatron clone. The second panel shows a different event in which the Megatron shown is from the '86 movie timeline that later becomes the Galvatron in the third panel. The event that the second panel shows is a variation of Time Wars which happened prior to the '86 movie whereas the third panel shows the Time Wars from the Marvel timeline. The Galvatron in the second panel is currently a mystery though. It cannot be '86 movie timeline Galvatron because his story doesn't take him back into his own timeline. Which leads us to...

The repaired rift in time and space as we see in Aspects of Evil: Galvatron. Rodimus Prime, Kup, Arcee, Blurr, Red Alert and Ultra Magnus (if he's still alive) are from the '86 movie timeline still and retain their memories from before the '86 movie (Rodimus Prime in Aspects of Evil is telling his student his memories prior to the '86 movie which don't happen in the regular Marvel timeline). However, Galvatron and everyone else is new with no memories or experiences from either the '86 movie timeline or the main Marvel timeline. Those six Autobots travelled to a third timeline. The '86 movie still happened for those six but that particular timeline is closed off to them. Whether the '86 movie timeline is continuing without them, we don't know.

The only assumption here is not that there was a Straxus-Megatron clone in the '86 movie that got kicked out of Astrotrain in 2005 but a much more factual explanation. The Galvatron that '86 movie Galvatron remembers in Time Wars is not himself, not Marvel Megatron (his story takes him into Classics and G2) or Marvel Straxus-Megatron (he dies) but a second Galvatron (and not the one from Rhythms of Darkness either). So, I would assume that this Galvatron from the new third timeline will at some point later travel to the past of the '86 movie continuity to kick Optimus Prime's butt as is shown in the memories of '86 movie Galvatron.

Also, the Megatron from the Trigger-Happy story is not Straxus-Megatron either but is in fact the Megatron from the '86 timeline since he's seen Galvatron and wrongly believes he will later become that same Galvatron. This means Trigger-Happy takes place in the timeline prior to the '86 movie and not the regular Marvel timeline.

This would be much easier with diagrams but I gave it my best shot in explaining why '86 movie Galvatron cannot be originally a Straxus-Megatron clone. [[Special:Contributions/95.148.10.183|95.148.10.183]] 17:23, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

Talk:Straxus (G1)

2011-07-17T21:24:08Z

95.148.10.183: /* Straxus Becomes Galvatron? */

So, Generations "Darkmount" was at ToyFair? I can't find any mention of him outside this wiki. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:39, 14 February 2010 (EST)
:[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/toy-fair-2010-presentation-screenshots-of-sdcc-blaster-straxus-masterpiece-grimlock-and-more/17867/] [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 07:41, 14 February 2010 (EST)
::Approximately half the sites call him "Darkhead" for some reason. Pictures be floating about, even though people were asked not to take them. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 07:44, 14 February 2010 (EST)
:::Thanks. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:46, 14 February 2010 (EST)
::::FWIW, we were only asked not to take them so as not to flash in the eyes of the presenters, not because anything was a secret; Hasbro said all the pics were going to be given to us anyway. It turned out Straxus' pics had come in from the shop too last-minute to have been added to the press kits. So, good on the shutterbugs. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 04:53, 15 February 2010 (EST)

=="Tank" vs "Self-Propelled Gun"==
I realize there's probably a 99% chance his card copy will say "tank" regardless, but it would be more in-keeping with the character history if he's actually a [[Wikipedia:Self-propelled gun|self-propelled gun]]? I'll probably add a note to that extent soon. Is there ANY way for us to get official confirmation in advance? For some reason I'm really fixating on this, I even directed the toy pics to a military hobbyist site to see if they could nail down the make and model of the vehicle mode. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 04:53, 15 February 2010 (EST)
: What feels wrong about this to me is that most of the images of self-propelled guns I'm seeing have really short barrels, and usually multiples of them, keeping with the idea that they're anti-aircraft weapons stuck on a vehicle. Darkmount doesn't keep in line with this, having a more traditional tank barrel. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:36, 15 February 2010 (EST)
::That's strange, cause a quick Google search just turned up oodles and skoodles of images of vehicles with single, massive barrels that most civilians would unhesitatingly call "tanks". [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:45, 15 February 2010 (EST)
:::The linked article shows numerous examples of s.p.g's that have single gigantic gunbarrels; most are anti-tank guns or mobile Howitzers used for over-the-horizon city bombardment. But here's the weird thing: the only half-track s.p.g's I can find are of the type Walky described: small multi-barrels, usually of WW2 vintage. Meanwhile, I can't find any specimens of a half-track true tank at all.--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 09:20, 15 February 2010 (EST)
::::Half-tracks were never used for tank chassis. Half-tracks were pretty much always troop transports or similar. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 09:37, 15 February 2010 (EST)
:::::This is the sort of geekery that I think should live on the wiki, and in fact does live in altmode discussions of many other characters. If the final packaging ends up saying "tank" it could still be appropriate to at least mention the possibility; cobras aren't vipers, as we note on [[Night Viper]]. FWIW, some military fanboys weighed in here: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=42398 --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 23:00, 17 February 2010 (EST)
::::::I am not sure I agree with having half of Darkmount's toy writeup be about whether he's a self-propelled gun or a tank. It's really irrelevant, considering his vehicle mode seems to be entirely made-up. His cockpit is a windowed affair on the front corner, for gods sake. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:34, 17 February 2010 (EST)
:::::::I may have gone overboard initially--especially considering that we can't even show a good pic of the toy yet--so I've shortened it.
:::::::FWIW, about that windowed cockpit up front: http://www.army-technology.com/projects/g6/g63.html --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 10:11, 18 February 2010 (EST)

== Dead Link and Title Thoughts ==

Just in case it's not known already, wanted to point out the "Obscure Omnibus" link seems to be dead at the moment. And on a random side note, part of me wishes Hasbro had thought to call him "Lord Darkmount" then we could more easily pretend it was his title as ruler of Darkmount castle, kinda like James McCullen is "Lord Destro." Though... that still kinda works, doesn't it, as he's usually just called Destro. Lord Byron was frequently called just Byron as well. I think in my own mind I'm gonna likewise consider "Darkmount" as Straxus's "aristocratic title." --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:56, 20 April 2010 (EDT)
:Using a regional name as a personified noun is common in journalism and historical writing, so it can still be a synonym for the government (and in this case, the dictator). "Russia today declared that it would withdraw from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. And in other news, Darkmount announced that fools within its borders would receive no mercy, only death."--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 15:19, 20 April 2010 (EDT)

== Triple Changer? ==

Straxus is currently in the [[:Category:Triple Changers|Triple Changers]] category because of what was said about his Generations toy at Toy Fair. Maybe he should be demoted from an official [[Triple Changer]] to a [[:Category:Transformers with three modes|Transformer with three modes]]. His third mode isn't even mentioned on the packaging. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:22, 29 December 2010 (EST)

== Straxus Becomes Galvatron? ==

I don't believe this was ever even slightly hinted at anywhere in the Marvel U.K. comics. Straxus' mind is trapped within a duplicate of Megatron's body, goes to Earth, participates in the Time Wars and then returns to Cybertron to commit suicide. There is no indication of any other Straxus-Megatron existing in any other Marvel U.K. timeline. Least of all one that later becomes Galvatron. [[Special:Contributions/95.148.10.137|95.148.10.137]] 10:08, 13 January 2011 (EST)
:It's not that it was hinted at in the stories at the time, but more of a retroactive thing. For almost the entirety of the Straxus-Megatron clone's existence, he was treated as the real Megatron. That's who the writer considered him to be when he was writing the story - the clone thing only came in later as a necessary explanation. And so, Galvatron remembers the events of ''Time Wars'' as Megatron sees them, because Megatron is his past self. Except later, it turned out that the Megatron from ''Time Wars'' was... Straxus-Megatron. This indicated the possibility that he could have been the Megatron who got turned into Galvatron, since they shared memories. ''Time Wars'' proceeded to change history, and so he died and the real Megatron became Galvatron instead. It's not an absolute, merely a possibility spawned as the result of a retcon. As the article says, sarcastically, "It's all very simple, isn't it?" - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:19, 13 January 2011 (EST)
:: Chris beat me to it. In Time Wars, Galvatron remembers seeing the events of the day through the participating Megatron's eyes. ...however, it was revealed later that the participating Megatron was the Straxus clone. The page doesn't really deal with this information terribly well. If Derik didn't write that trailing italicized portion at the end of the Marvel section, I'll eat my hat. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:20, 13 January 2011 (EST)
:::I don't see Derik in the revision history... [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 11:22, 13 January 2011 (EST)
::::That's because the passage in question predates the editing history we have. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:28, 13 January 2011 (EST)
:::::Actually, I didn't find it over on [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Straxus_(G1)&limit=500&showall=0&action=history Teletraan I's Straxus's article], while the line ''is'' there. Seems that one "Borf the Dwarf" added it. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 11:32, 13 January 2011 (EST)
::::::Actually, I think it might have been ''me''! Not the "very simple" part, but the rest, I think! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:43, 13 January 2011 (EST)
I think we're confusing exactly who's who and who is from which timeline here. The Galvatron from 2006 thats been appearing throughout the Marvel U.K. comics is from the '86 movie timeline. The Marvel comics is seperate, following a timeline where the '86 movie cannot happen. It is therefore logical to believe that the events prior to the '86 movie don't match the events as shown in the Marvel comics.

Look at the second page of the Time Wars Part 7 story. The third panel shows Galvatron from the '86 movie timeline and the Straxus-Megatron clone. The second panel shows a different event in which the Megatron shown is from the '86 movie timeline that later becomes the Galvatron in the third panel. The event that the second panel shows is a variation of Time Wars which happened prior to the '86 movie whereas the third panel shows the Time Wars from the Marvel timeline. The Galvatron in the second panel is currently a mystery though. It cannot be '86 movie timeline Galvatron because his story doesn't take him back into his own timeline. Which leads us to...

The repaired rift in time and space as we see in Aspects of Evil: Galvatron. Rodimus Prime, Kup, Arcee, Blurr, Red Alert and Ultra Magnus (if he's still alive) are from the '86 movie timeline still and retain their memories from before the '86 movie (Rodimus Prime in Aspects of Evil is telling his student his memories prior to the '86 movie which don't happen in the regular Marvel timeline). However, Galvatron and everyone else is new with no memories or experiences from either the '86 movie timeline or the main Marvel timeline. Those six Autobots travelled to a third timeline. The '86 movie still happened for those six but that particular timeline is closed off to them. Whether the '86 movie timeline is continuing without them, we don't know.

The only assumption here is not that there was a Straxus-Megatron clone in the '86 movie that got kicked out of Astrotrain in 2005 but a much more factual explanation. The Galvatron that '86 movie Galvatron remembers in Time Wars is not himself, not Marvel Megatron (his story takes him into Classics and G2) or Marvel Straxus-Megatron (he dies) but a second Galvatron (and not the one from Rhythms of Darkness either). So, I would assume that this Galvatron from the new third timeline will at some point later travel to the past of the '86 movie continuity to kick Optimus Prime's butt as is shown in the memories of '86 movie Galvatron.

Also, the Megatron from the Trigger-Happy story is not Straxus-Megatron either but is in fact the Megatron from the '86 timeline since he's seen Galvatron and wrongly believes he will later become that same Galvatron. This means Trigger-Happy takes place in the timeline prior to the '86 movie and not the regular Marvel timeline. This would be much easier with diagrams but I gave it my best shot in explaining why '86 movie Galvatron cannot be originally a Straxus-Megatron clone. [[Special:Contributions/95.148.10.183|95.148.10.183]] 17:23, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

Talk:Straxus (G1)

2011-07-17T21:23:19Z

95.148.10.183: /* Sraxus Becomes Galvatron? */

So, Generations "Darkmount" was at ToyFair? I can't find any mention of him outside this wiki. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:39, 14 February 2010 (EST)
:[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/toy-fair-2010-presentation-screenshots-of-sdcc-blaster-straxus-masterpiece-grimlock-and-more/17867/] [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 07:41, 14 February 2010 (EST)
::Approximately half the sites call him "Darkhead" for some reason. Pictures be floating about, even though people were asked not to take them. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 07:44, 14 February 2010 (EST)
:::Thanks. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:46, 14 February 2010 (EST)
::::FWIW, we were only asked not to take them so as not to flash in the eyes of the presenters, not because anything was a secret; Hasbro said all the pics were going to be given to us anyway. It turned out Straxus' pics had come in from the shop too last-minute to have been added to the press kits. So, good on the shutterbugs. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 04:53, 15 February 2010 (EST)

=="Tank" vs "Self-Propelled Gun"==
I realize there's probably a 99% chance his card copy will say "tank" regardless, but it would be more in-keeping with the character history if he's actually a [[Wikipedia:Self-propelled gun|self-propelled gun]]? I'll probably add a note to that extent soon. Is there ANY way for us to get official confirmation in advance? For some reason I'm really fixating on this, I even directed the toy pics to a military hobbyist site to see if they could nail down the make and model of the vehicle mode. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 04:53, 15 February 2010 (EST)
: What feels wrong about this to me is that most of the images of self-propelled guns I'm seeing have really short barrels, and usually multiples of them, keeping with the idea that they're anti-aircraft weapons stuck on a vehicle. Darkmount doesn't keep in line with this, having a more traditional tank barrel. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:36, 15 February 2010 (EST)
::That's strange, cause a quick Google search just turned up oodles and skoodles of images of vehicles with single, massive barrels that most civilians would unhesitatingly call "tanks". [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:45, 15 February 2010 (EST)
:::The linked article shows numerous examples of s.p.g's that have single gigantic gunbarrels; most are anti-tank guns or mobile Howitzers used for over-the-horizon city bombardment. But here's the weird thing: the only half-track s.p.g's I can find are of the type Walky described: small multi-barrels, usually of WW2 vintage. Meanwhile, I can't find any specimens of a half-track true tank at all.--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 09:20, 15 February 2010 (EST)
::::Half-tracks were never used for tank chassis. Half-tracks were pretty much always troop transports or similar. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 09:37, 15 February 2010 (EST)
:::::This is the sort of geekery that I think should live on the wiki, and in fact does live in altmode discussions of many other characters. If the final packaging ends up saying "tank" it could still be appropriate to at least mention the possibility; cobras aren't vipers, as we note on [[Night Viper]]. FWIW, some military fanboys weighed in here: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=42398 --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 23:00, 17 February 2010 (EST)
::::::I am not sure I agree with having half of Darkmount's toy writeup be about whether he's a self-propelled gun or a tank. It's really irrelevant, considering his vehicle mode seems to be entirely made-up. His cockpit is a windowed affair on the front corner, for gods sake. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:34, 17 February 2010 (EST)
:::::::I may have gone overboard initially--especially considering that we can't even show a good pic of the toy yet--so I've shortened it.
:::::::FWIW, about that windowed cockpit up front: http://www.army-technology.com/projects/g6/g63.html --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 10:11, 18 February 2010 (EST)

== Dead Link and Title Thoughts ==

Just in case it's not known already, wanted to point out the "Obscure Omnibus" link seems to be dead at the moment. And on a random side note, part of me wishes Hasbro had thought to call him "Lord Darkmount" then we could more easily pretend it was his title as ruler of Darkmount castle, kinda like James McCullen is "Lord Destro." Though... that still kinda works, doesn't it, as he's usually just called Destro. Lord Byron was frequently called just Byron as well. I think in my own mind I'm gonna likewise consider "Darkmount" as Straxus's "aristocratic title." --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:56, 20 April 2010 (EDT)
:Using a regional name as a personified noun is common in journalism and historical writing, so it can still be a synonym for the government (and in this case, the dictator). "Russia today declared that it would withdraw from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. And in other news, Darkmount announced that fools within its borders would receive no mercy, only death."--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 15:19, 20 April 2010 (EDT)

== Triple Changer? ==

Straxus is currently in the [[:Category:Triple Changers|Triple Changers]] category because of what was said about his Generations toy at Toy Fair. Maybe he should be demoted from an official [[Triple Changer]] to a [[:Category:Transformers with three modes|Transformer with three modes]]. His third mode isn't even mentioned on the packaging. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:22, 29 December 2010 (EST)

== Straxus Becomes Galvatron? ==

I don't believe this was ever even slightly hinted at anywhere in the Marvel U.K. comics. Straxus' mind is trapped within a duplicate of Megatron's body, goes to Earth, participates in the Time Wars and then returns to Cybertron to commit suicide. There is no indication of any other Straxus-Megatron existing in any other Marvel U.K. timeline. Least of all one that later becomes Galvatron. [[Special:Contributions/95.148.10.137|95.148.10.137]] 10:08, 13 January 2011 (EST)
:It's not that it was hinted at in the stories at the time, but more of a retroactive thing. For almost the entirety of the Straxus-Megatron clone's existence, he was treated as the real Megatron. That's who the writer considered him to be when he was writing the story - the clone thing only came in later as a necessary explanation. And so, Galvatron remembers the events of ''Time Wars'' as Megatron sees them, because Megatron is his past self. Except later, it turned out that the Megatron from ''Time Wars'' was... Straxus-Megatron. This indicated the possibility that he could have been the Megatron who got turned into Galvatron, since they shared memories. ''Time Wars'' proceeded to change history, and so he died and the real Megatron became Galvatron instead. It's not an absolute, merely a possibility spawned as the result of a retcon. As the article says, sarcastically, "It's all very simple, isn't it?" - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:19, 13 January 2011 (EST)
:: Chris beat me to it. In Time Wars, Galvatron remembers seeing the events of the day through the participating Megatron's eyes. ...however, it was revealed later that the participating Megatron was the Straxus clone. The page doesn't really deal with this information terribly well. If Derik didn't write that trailing italicized portion at the end of the Marvel section, I'll eat my hat. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:20, 13 January 2011 (EST)
:::I don't see Derik in the revision history... [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 11:22, 13 January 2011 (EST)
::::That's because the passage in question predates the editing history we have. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:28, 13 January 2011 (EST)
:::::Actually, I didn't find it over on [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Straxus_(G1)&limit=500&showall=0&action=history Teletraan I's Straxus's article], while the line ''is'' there. Seems that one "Borf the Dwarf" added it. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 11:32, 13 January 2011 (EST)
::::::Actually, I think it might have been ''me''! Not the "very simple" part, but the rest, I think! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:43, 13 January 2011 (EST)
I think we're confusing exactly who's who and who is from which timeline here. The Galvatron from 2006 thats been appearing throughout the Marvel U.K. comics is from the '86 movie timeline. The Marvel comics is seperate, following a timeline where the '86 movie cannot happen. It is therefore logical to believe that the events prior to the '86 movie don't match the events as shown in the Marvel comics.

Look at the second page of the Time Wars Part 7 story. The third panel shows Galvatron from the '86 movie timeline and the Straxus-Megatron clone. The second panel shows a different event in which the Megatron shown is from the '86 movie timeline that later becomes the Galvatron in the third panel. The event that the second panel shows is a variation of Time Wars which happened prior to the '86 movie whereas the third panel shows the Time Wars from the Marvel timeline. The Galvatron in the second panel is currently a mystery though. It cannot be '86 movie timeline Galvatron because his story doesn't take him back into his own timeline. Which leads us to...

The repaired rift in time and space as we see in Aspects of Evil: Galvatron. Rodimus Prime, Kup, Arcee, Blurr, Red Alert and Ultra Magnus (if he's still alive) are from the '86 movie timeline still and retain their memories from before the '86 movie (Rodimus Prime in Aspects of Evil is telling his student his memories prior to the '86 movie which don't happen in the regular Marvel timeline). However, Galvatron and everyone else is new with no memories or experiences from either the '86 movie timeline or the main Marvel timeline. Those six Autobots travelled to a third timeline. The '86 movie still happened for those six but that particular timeline is closed off to them. Whether the '86 movie timeline is continuing without them, we don't know.

The only assumption here is not that there was a Straxus-Megatron clone in the '86 movie that got kicked out of Astrotrain in 2005 but a much more factual explanation. The Galvatron that '86 movie Galvatron remembers in Time Wars is not himself, not Marvel Megatron (his story takes him into Classics and G2) or Marvel Straxus-Megatron (he dies) but a second Galvatron (and not the one from Rhythms of Darkness either). So, I would assume that this Galvatron from the new third timeline will at some point later travel to the past of the '86 movie continuity to kick Optimus Prime's butt as is shown in the memories of '86 movie Galvatron.

Also, the Megatron from the Trigger-Happy story is not Straxus-Megatron either but is in fact the Megatron from the '86 timeline since he's seen Galvatron and wrongly believes he will later become that same Galvatron. This means Trigger-Happy takes place in the timeline prior to the '86 movie and not the regular Marvel timeline. The tfwiki is attempting to combine the revised timeline (what I call the third timelime here) and

This would be much easier with diagrams but I gave it my best shot in explaining why '86 movie Galvatron cannot be originally a Straxus-Megatron clone. [[Special:Contributions/95.148.10.183|95.148.10.183]] 17:23, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

Mikaela Banes

2011-07-17T12:54:32Z

95.148.10.183: /* Human Alliance */

: ''Mikaela is a [[human]] from the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]]. She is also known as "Warrior Goddess" and "Crazy Bitch"'' both by Wheelie.
[[Image:Movie MikaelaBanes.jpg|right|200px|thumb|]]
'''Mikaela Banes''' (1990- ) is a beauty with brains, with a penchant for fixing cars, and looks strong enough to make [[Sam Witwicky]] offer to "ride" her home in [[Bumblebee (Movie)|his new car]].

She does not seem to mind making out on top of an alien car while [[Autobot|other alien cars]] watch. Kinky.

{{quote|No matter what happens, I'm really glad I got in that car with you.|Mikaela Banes to [[Sam Witwicky]], ''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]''}}

==Fiction==
===''Transformers'' film===
:''Actor:'' [[Megan Fox]] (English), [[Kanako Toujō]] (Japanese dub voice), [[Sylvia Salustti]] (Portuguese dub voice), [[Liliana Barba]] (Latin American Spanish dub voice)

[[Image:Movie Mikaela carfix.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Mikaela fails to find a sandwich under Bumblebee's hood.]]
Mikaela learned how to fix cars from [[Colin Banes|her father]], a long-time car thief who has presumably been single for some time. When he couldn't find a babysitter, he'd bring young Mikaela along, and she learned his trade. She hid her automotive knowledge from her boyfriends, for fear that they will be insecure around a girl who knows more about cars than they do.

She went to school with Sam Witwicky since first grade, but had failed to notice him at all during that entire time. After a spat with her boyfriend [[Trent DeMarco|Trent]], she dumped him, and Sam gave her a ride home in his new car. When the car suffered engine trouble, she took a look at the engine and was very impressed with the layout. Sam was more impressed with her. After Sam drove her home, Mikaela asked him if he thought she was "shallow", to which Sam awkwardly replied that he thought that there was "more than meets the eye...with...you".

[[Image:Movie Mikaela Sam Frenzy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Slasher film with a twist: Girl wields chainsaw against maniac alien monster!]]

The next day, Mikaela was having lunch with her friends when Sam passed by on his mother's bike, saying that his car was following him. Concerned, she followed him on her moped, but just as she caught up, Sam knocked her off. Angry, she demanded to know what his problem was...at which point [[Barricade (Movie)|a monster cop car]] came charging out from under the bridge where Sam had just been. Sam's Camaro knocked the monster down and then urged them to get in. After a hectic chase, the two teens arrived at a deserted chemical plant, where the Camaro [[Transformation|transformed]] into a [[Transformer|giant robot]]. However, the monster unleashed [[Frenzy (Movie)|a spastic abomination]] that went after Sam and pantsed him. Heading to an abandoned tool shed, Mikaela found a power saw and attacked the smaller robot, decapitating it. Mikaela then watched with trepidation as Sam tried to communicate with his now-bipedal car, learning that it could only speak through the radio and that it was an alien who had summoned others of its kind to [[Earth]]. Mikaela remained unsure about re-entering the vehicle, but then Sam asked her a simple question: "Fifty years from now, when you're looking back at your life, don't you wanna say you had the guts to get into the car?" Mikaela reluctantly agreed...unaware that the decapitated robot had slipped into her purse.

She still refused to sit in the driver's seat, as the car was driving, so Sam argued that since he had the only other seatbelt, she should sit in his lap. Safety first, after all. Mikaela agreed, then admitted that it was a smooth move on Sam's part. She then asked why the car turned back into a piece-of-crap Camaro if it was such a super-advanced robot. Insulted, the car forced the two teens out, only to return moments later as a sleek and shiny 2009 model. The car then took them to a local observatory, where they could see four meteors entering Earth's atmosphere. Mikaela instinctively reached for Sam's hand as this spectacle took place. The Camaro then brought them to an abandoned alley, where four more cars joined them, then transformed into robots. After inquiring Sam's identity, the lead robot introduced himself as [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], the [[Prime (rank)|leader]] of the [[Autobot]]s, a race of sentient robots from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Prime introduced [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]], his first lieutenant; [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]], his weapons expert; [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]], their medical officer (who revealed that Sam's pheromone levels indicated that he wanted to mate with Mikaela, something that embarrassed both teens); and identified the Camaro as Bumblebee, Sam's guardian. When Mikaela asked their intentions, Optimus explained their mission to find the [[AllSpark (Movie)|AllSpark]], the betrayal of [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] and the [[Decepticon]]s, and how [[Archibald Witwicky]]'s [[glasses]] played a role in finding their target.

[[Image:Movie Mikaela Prime's hand.JPG|left|250px|thumb|Now THAT'S home delivery!]]

Heading to Sam's house, Mikaela was told to stay and watch the Autobots, though they eventually headed to Sam's backyard and proceeded to cause some havoc. Losing patience with Sam's inability to locate the glasses within a couple of minutes, Optimus gave Mikaela a boost up through Sam's window so she could help. Further difficulties arose when Ratchet accidentally hit some powerlines, causing a blackout. The blackout and their shuffling around attracted the unwanted attention of [[Ron Witwicky|the]] [[Judy Witwicky|parents]], and Mikaela hid before they came in. This led to some awkward conversation as Sam tried to explain what was going on, until Mikaela finally stood up, revealing her presence as a "a friend" of Sam's. This genuinely delighted his parents, and his mother rather awkwardly apologized for their family discussion. Mikaela commented that she thought Mrs. Witwicky was nice.

When [[Sector Seven]] forcibly detained Mikaela and Sam's family, [[Seymour Simmons|Agent Simmons]] revealed that she had a police record, confirmed that she was hot, and threatened her father's upcoming parole hearing. This strategy nearly made Mikaela cry...until Optimus Prime ripped off the roof of their SUV and demanded that the agents get out of the car and release the two teens. After the Autobots rescued the pair, Sam expressed misgivings about Mikaela's history. She huffily confided to him that her record stemmed from her refusal to turn her father over to the authorities. Sector Seven soon recaptured both teenagers (along with Bumblebee) and brought them to [[Hoover Dam]]. There Sam negotiated with Simmons to have Mikaela's criminal record expunged as part of his reward for helping Sector Seven with the information he had about the Transformers. Mikaela was pleased with and grateful for Sam's change in attitude toward her.

[[Image:Movie Mikaela Bumblebee deadBrawl.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Bumblebee totally checks out Mikaela's butt—er, the destruction he caused. Yeah, that's it.]]

Inside Hoover Dam, the teens, along [[John Keller|Defense Secretary Keller]], [[Maggie Madsen|two]] [[Glen Whitmann|hackers]], and [[William Lennox|some]] [[Robert Epps|soldiers]], were shown the frozen body of [[Megatron (Movie)|N.B.E.-1]], which Sam and Mikaela recognized as Megatron, as well as a demonstration of the AllSpark. However, the robot hiding in Mikaela's purse had slipped away and contacted the other Decepticons. Sam, with some help from one of the soldiers, managed to convince Sector Seven to release Bumblebee, who reformatted the cube.

[[Image:Movie2007_Sam_Mikaela_makingoutonBumblebee.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Wow, is that a ''[[Sam Witwicky|Sam]]''wich?]]

They group fled to [[Mission City]], soon joined by the Autobots. During the Decepticon attack at Mission City, Bumblebee was injured by [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]], and Mikaela strapped the injured Bumblebee to an abandoned tow truck. Sam told her to get Bumblebee (and herself) away from the battle, while he took the AllSpark to a building to be extracted by the military. They left, but Mikaela was soon overcome with guilt and frustration for having left. Looking at Bumblebee, the injured robot gave a simple nod, and Mikaela decided to go back. She drove the tow truck backwards through the battle while Bumblebee shot at [[Brawl (Movie)|the tank]], destroying the Decepticon.

After the death of Megatron, Sam and Mikaela began dating, even making out on Bumblebee while the Autobots watched. That's kinky {{storylink|Transformers (2007)|Transformers}}
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===Titan Magazines ''Transformers'' movie comics===
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[[Image:Titan MikaelaBumblebee.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Dynamic duo!]]
Mikaela was part of the resistance in the Decepticon-occupied United States. She's an experienced veteran of guerilla warfare and partnered with Bumblebee, who was an old friend by this point. She still grieved over Sam's death.

She wore tight, body-hugging black spy clothes, including leather gloves and long boots. Hawt.

She and Bumblebee raided a Decepticon facility (the former [[Sector Seven]] base) to rescue Optimus Prime, Earth's last hope—only to find him frozen and offline—and to attract Megatron's attention. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 9|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 1}} While the tyrant hunted Bumblebee, Mikaela tried to thaw out Optimus with guidance from [[Tom Banachek]]. Unfortunately, [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]] was watching her... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 10|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 2}} ...and when he shot at her, she dodged and grabbed a fire-axe, ''this'' time intending to finish him for good. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 11|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 3}} The Decepticon managed to evade her attacks and smacked her backwards into the liquid nitrogen tanks, but she appeared to have planned this: she avoided his finishing blow, allowing him to shatter the tank (freezing him to death in the process) while she escaped the area with a really cool slide under the door. Phase One was now complete and Optimus Prime was thawing out.

[[Image:MikaelaKASH.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Mikaela as Final Girl—she's the girl, and you're final.]]

Phase Two involved entering a restricted area of the base with Banachek's help and locating an old Sector Seven experiment: {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 12|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 4}} a nanovirus designed to block AllSpark operational frequencies. This caused the AllSpark's powers to consume Megatron from the inside, killing him for good. Which basically meant Mikaela single-handedly saved all of Earth and reversed the Autobots' fortunes. You go, girl! (Okay, Bumblebee helped.) {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 13|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 5}}

Following the liberation of America, Mikaela (who was optimistic that humanity would one day accept the Autobots) took a position of authority at an emergency medical shelter in [[Savannah]], [[Georgia]]; a mysterious illness had begun sweeping through the area. To make matters worse, the Decepticons attacked the shelter, and Mikaela tried to evacuate the patients to a safer location. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 14|Aftermath Part 1}} When human tanks joined in the assault on the Autobots, Mikaela called into Tom Banachek to get the attack stopped; when orders to stop were ignored, it became clear something was wrong and she and Bumblebee ran a gauntlet of hostile enemies to reach the tank commander and free him from Decepticon mind control. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 15|Aftermath Part 2}}

[[Image:Titan18 Mikaela.jpg|left|350px|thumb|]]
She was later summoned by President [[Theodore Allen]] to [[Washington, D.C.]]. The President was very interested in her unparalleled access to the Autobots - and so were the Decepticons and their human-controlling cerebro-strips... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 18|Return to Cybertron: Part 2}} Following this, the Autobots left her to watch over their Savannah base while they went to Cybertron. It was the easiest Decepticon victory ''ever''. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 19|Return to Cybertron: Part 3}}

Starscream enjoyed taunting her, hoping part of her mind still functioned and was screaming for help. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 21|Hard Target}} He also knew the Autobots would come back to rescue her, and set up an ambush for when they did. The Autobot's strategy succeeded though, freeing Mikaela from the control-chip and successfully evacuating her. She was overjoyed to be rescued, and ''very angry'' with Starscream. Based on her previous Con-killing record, he's ''doomed''. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 22|The Decepticon Who Haunted Himself}}

[[Image:Titan23_MikaelaSeward.jpg|right|250px|thumb|"Don't worry, Mikaela, Hasbro will ''never'' let that many expensive toys be written out!"]]

Following this, she relocated to Falls Church, [[Virginia]].

When the brainwashed President Allen ordered the Autobots off American soil, as part of a "truce" with the Decepticons, Mikaela refused to accept this, reacting first with blind anger and then grief at the idea of losing her friend Bumblebee. He promised her he would come back, so it was a ''bit'' of a pisser when, seeing the Autobots off at [[Andrews Air Force Base]], she witnessed an American nuclear missile hit their departing ship... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 23|Revolution Part 1}}

The day after, all she could do was sit at home watching the news and crying over her loss. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 24|Revolution Part 2}}

Having somehow managed to go to sleep during a nationwide ''Decepticon war'', she was surprised to be woken by Tom Banachek at 4AM for a secret rendez-vous... and ''really'' surprised to learn he'd been secretly identifying Decepticon puppets for the Autobot's final strike... and really ''pissed'' to learn the Autobots had actually faked their deaths and Bumblebee hadn't told her, after all they'd been through. While Bumblebee protested otherwise, she believed they didn't trust her to not be captured and enslaved again.

She witnessed the final battle against the Decepticons—and an Autobot victory by teleporting all the Decepticons to Cybertron, leaving them trapped. To her shock, she realised the Autobots had just willingly trapped ''themselves'' on Earth this way.

Now there was just a lot of clean-up to do, with her and Tom having to sort out all the people brainwashed by the Decepticons. Quietly forgiving Bumblebee in the face of the Autobot sacrifice, she headed off with him to get all their work done—and to explore the brave new world that was waiting for them on a liberated Earth... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 25|Revolution Part Three}}
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===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
Shortly after the battle of Mission City, Sam and Mikaela were watching Ratchet reattach Bumblebee's legs when [[Dispensor|the transformed Mountain Dew]] machine suddenly attacked Sam. Fortunately, Ratchet crushed the creature before it could cause further havoc. Examining the liquid from its remains, Ratchet warned his human friends about the dangers in weight gain and tooth decay that the substance could cause to them. Amused, Sam and Mikaela promised to be careful. {{storylink|Alliance issue 1}}

===''Revenge of the Fallen'' film===
:''Actor:'' [[Megan Fox]] (English), [[Sylvia Salustti]] (Portuguese dub voice), [[Liliana Barba]] (Latin American Spanish-language dub voice)

[[Image:ROTF-Mikaelamotorcycle.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Look, this movie already has giant robots fighting. Males don't need ''more'' incentive.]]

Two years after the battle of [[Mission City]], Mikaela was working at a garage, owned a bulldog named [[Bonecrusher (dog)|Bonecrusher]] and was tending to her recently bailed manchild of a father. Her relationship with Sam had complicated as neither had summoned the courage to say to one another "I ''love'' you." As Sam was packing for college, she called to announce that she was breaking up with him, mostly so she wouldn't have to say goodbye. Sam, however, had already gotten her a long-distance relationship kit, including a webcam. This convinced her not to dump him, though she was grossed out to learn that he offered to leave her his Mission City shirt. While they were talking, Sam discovered a shard of the [[AllSpark (Movie)|AllSpark]] in the preserved clothes he wore the day he destroyed it, and it brought his kitchen appliances to life. Mikaela arrived after [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] destroyed the [[Appliancebot]]s, and as Sam bid farewell to his car, she got changed in an effort to impress him into saying the magic words: unfortunately, as he left, he could only say that he ''adored'' her. She was then entrusted with the AllSpark fragment.

Mikaela got ready for her first webcam date with Sam, but he was absent, having been taken by his new roommates to a party. The day after, she got a call from Sam saying he had a nervous breakdown in class and was seeing [[Cyberglyphics]] everywhere, and asked her to bring the AllSpark fragment to him. Mikaela overheard noises and found a Decepticon named [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] trying to crack the safe with the shard in it. She grabbed him with a pair of tongs and burnt out his optic with a blowtorch before chaining him inside a box. She flew to [[Princeton University]] with Wheelie and the fragment, entering Sam's room to find symbols scribbled all over the walls, and [[Alice]] on top of Sam. Mikaela left, proclaiming their relationship was over. She burst back when she overheard struggling noises, as did [[Leo Spitz]], and found Sam being strangled by Alice's long mechanical tongue. Mikaela threw the box containing Wheelie at Alice, but she was too quick and ducked, making the box go through the window. Seeing the girl transform, she ran with Leo and her shrieking boyfriend into the library. Mikaela snapped at Sam for what had happened, but he protested he had not enjoyed Alice's seduction due to her unnatural strength. The organic Decepticon burst in, blasting at any movement the three of them made, eventually blowing a hole in the library wall. The trio broke into someone's car that Mikaela hotwired, with Leo complimenting on her skills, she got it started just in time to pin Alice to the hood and run the villainess into a lightpost before taking off and running over her.

[[Image:ROTFMegatronMikeala.jpg|thumb|300px|Megatron, her face is up there!]]

As they fled, [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]] dropped a hook into Mikaela's car and dropped them at an abandoned factory. [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] sawed the car in half, and [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] raised his head up behind Mikaela. The resurrected and clearly vengeful commander threw Sam to the floor. Mikaela was distressed as Megatron grasped at him, professing his desire to kill him painfully, but he had work to do. [[Scalpel (ROTF)|Scalpel]] came, creating a projection of the symbols in Sam's mind, and decided to remove his brain. [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and Bumblebee burst in, ending the experiment. Mikaela and Leo were driven away by Bumblebee, while Optimus took Sam to a forest where he sacrificed himself to protect the boy. Sam, Mikaela and Leo were driven to an abandoned factory by Bumblebee, [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]], as [[The Fallen]] broadcast a demand for Sam's head.

Leo suggested they figure out Sam's hallucinations by meeting his online rival [[Robo-Warrior]], who turned out to be [[Seymour Simmons]], now working in a deli in [[New York City]]. Simmons was aggressive towards Sam and Mikaela, blaming them for the loss of his job, but was intrigued by his problems and revealed similar symbols had been spotted in ancient sites across the world, indicating Transformer activity. Mikaela decided to free Wheelie, who was in Bumblebee's trunk, promising not to harm him if he decoded the symbols. Wheelie recognized them as the language of the [[Dynasty of Primes]], but needed a [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seeker]] to read them. The group found their Seeker, [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]], at the Smithsonian. When Jetfire revealed he was once a Decepticon, Wheelie was pleased to understand one could defect, and humped Mikaela's leg in joy. Sam was disgusted, but she didn't mind, joking he was more faithful than her boyfriend.

Jetfire opened a [[space bridge]] that teleported himself, Sam, Mikaela, Leo, Simmons, Bumblebee and the Twins to [[Egypt]]. Mikaela landed on Leo's crotch. Jetfire explained nineteen thousand years ago, The Fallen built a [[star harvester]] on Earth, but the necessary component—the [[Matrix of Leadership]]-was taken and hidden in the [[Tomb of the Primes]]. Sam suggested the Matrix be used to resurrect Optimus, and found its remains in [[Petra]] after decoding the only clue. Returning to the [[pyramid]]s of [[Egypt]],

[[Image:ROTF Mikaela victory hug.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Smile now, Mikaela, but what do you think it will take to get Sam to propose?]]

Mikaela ran with her boyfriend and dodged Decepticons left, right and center to bring the Matrix to Optimus. Despite a successful [[Operation: Firestorm|strike]] by the [[United States Air Force]], Megatron appeared and shot at Sam. As he drifted between life and death, Mikaela went out of control, finally proclaiming that she loved him. The [[spark]]s of the original [[Seven Primes]] came to Sam and revived him, and the Matrix was restored as they deemed him worthy of it. Optimus was restored, and defeated The Fallen. Mikaela and Sam cradled each other following the battle, as she slyly noted all it took for one of them to admit their feelings was an alien war. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)}}

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===IDW ''Dark of the Moon'' movie comics===
Mikaela and Sam broke up. Wheelie would later note this. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 2|Rising Storm #2}}

===''Dark of the Moon'' film===
{{spoiler|Dark of the Moon (film)|July 29, 2011}}

Mikeala broke up with Sam sometime after the second wave of Autobots refugees arrived on Earth, leaving him with [[Bonecrusher (dog)|Bonecrusher]], Wheelie and the diminutive newcomer [[Brains]]. Sometime later, when Wheelie expressed concern that Sam's new girlfriend [[Carly Spencer]] would dump him like Mikeala did, Brains commented that he didn't like Mikeala, as she was mean, but Sam rebutted that Carly was somebody who appreciated him for who he was.

After Sam and Carly had an argument over his deepening involvement in the latest Transformers crisis, his mother Judy was in disbelief that after breaking up with a "world class hottie" like Mikeala, he would then break up with Carly. To his chagrin, she thought it was unlikely that he would find another beautiful girlfriend. {{storylink|Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}

==Games==
===''Transformers The Game''===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Megan Fox]] (English)

She totally understands the [[Megatron (Movie)|frozen nemesis]], [[AllSpark (Movie)|robot lifeforce]], and magic [[glasses]] parts, but she still has trouble understanding why the [[Bumblebee (Movie)|super scout]] turns into a beater. Women. {{storylink|Transformers: The Game}}

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===''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' - The Game===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Megan Fox]] (English)

====Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC====
=====Autobot campaign=====

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=====Decepticon campaign=====

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====Wii/PS2====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Megan Fox]] (English)
After [[The Fallen]]'s defeat, Mikaela and [[Sam Witwicky|Sam]] were heard talking to [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (Wii/PS2)}}

==Toys==
===Transformers (2007)===
{{anchor|First Encounter}}
[[Image:Movie ScreenBattles SamMikaelaFrenzy.jpg|250px|thumb|We love Bruce Campbell too, but there was nothing WRONG with your hand.]]
*'''First Encounter''' (Screen Battles, 2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''SB-01'''

: This Screen Battles pack features a largely unchanged Deluxe class Barricade figure, but the Frenzy accessory has been cast in black plastic to better blend in with Barricade's chest. The pack also comes with unposable figurines of Sam Witwicky in a running pose, Frenzy menacing Sam, and Mikaela Banes holding the power saw she uses to attack Frenzy. The set is packaged in a special window box with a diorama depicting the battle between Barricade and Bumblebee. This item was released during the last weeks of 2007.

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[[Image:Movie ScreenBattles FinalStand1.jpg|250px|thumb|She'll drive, you shoot. Everyone wins (except Brawl, but that's the point).]]
*'''Final Stand''' (Screen Battles, 2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''SB-02'''

[[Image:Mikaela Banes Final Stand Figure.jpg|left|150px|thumb|]]

: This ''Screen Battles'' pack comes with a [[Longarm (Movie)|Longarm]] figure redecoed in the same paint job as the tow truck Mikaela uses to tow Bumblebee to safety. The "Orson's Towing" markings have been replaced by the "Mike's Towing" markings seen on the actual truck used in the movie. Longarm's interior features a non-removable figurine of Mikaela where the driver's seat would be, plugged into one of the screw holes in the dashboard piece. The pack comes with a battle-damaged, posable Bumblebee figure similar to his ''Robot Replicas'' toy.

: This set comes in a special window box featuring a diorama background of the battle in Mission City. This item was released during the last weeks of 2007.
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===Revenge of the Fallen===
====Human Alliance====
[[Image:ROTFtoy-SkidsHumanAlliance.jpg|right|thumb|300px|We swear, it's just a Dr. Strangelove reference!]]
*'''Autobot Skids / Arcee / Mikaela Banes''' (Human Alliance, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RA-25'''
**''Accessories:'' Missile

:[[Human Alliance]] Mikaela is a posable figure included with [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]]. She can fit inside in Skids's vehicle mode, plugging into either of his seats via a small hole in her back. In robot mode, Skids's seats end up on his arms, and Mikaela can still sit in either of them; Skids's right arm also features a spring-loaded missile launcher that can rotate into place in front of the seat, with flip-up firing conrols for Mikaela to take charge of. Mikaela can also stand on a platform in the small of Skids's back (via peg-holes on her feet), manning a small non-firing minigun that flips out over the top of Skids's head. Finally, Skids's left palm also contains a peg, meaning Mikaela can securely stand or sit in her big buddy's hand.

:Mikaela can also ride Arcee in vehicle mode. In fact, Arcee's motorcycle mode is based on the Aprilia 125 she is seen riding at one point in the [[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|film]], with some elements made up.<ref>[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=65426 Hasbro December 09 Q&A, AllSpark]</ref>

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/HASkids/skids.htm More information on Human Alliance Skids at TFU.info]''

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===Transformers 2010===
====Human Alliance====
[[Image:TF2010 Human Alliance Sideswipe.jpg||right|thumb|300px|Go with you to a dark, secluded location to discuss my role in the third film? Sure!]]
*'''Shadow Blade Sideswipe / Mikaela Banes''' (Human Alliance, 2010)
**''Accessories:'' Missile

:Human Alliance [[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Shadow Blade Sideswipe]] contains a new Mikaela mold, wearing a jacket and sporting a ponytail. Like with Skids, she can be seated inside Sideswipe in car mode or operate a weapon behind his head in robot mode.

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==Notes==
* When Mikaela was hotwiring the tow truck, she stripped the wires with her teeth.<ref>Expert fingers and agile teeth stripped wires and brought them together, generating sparks. [[Del Rey Books]], ''[[Transformers (novel)|Transformers]]'', p273, ([[2007]])</ref>

* Of course, the real reason for Mikaela's off-screen departure (and the subsequent introduction of Carly) was due to the behind the scenes issues with actress [[Megan Fox]].

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Mikaela Banes''' (ミカエラ・ベインズ ''Mikaera Beinzu'')

==References==
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