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		<title>Talk:Perceptor (G1)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;95.148.9.160: /* Cybertronian alternate mode? */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;REWRITE IT ALL IN PERCEPTOR SPEAK!&lt;br /&gt;
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...please?&lt;br /&gt;
:I did what I could with the Animated Continuity section, but the whole article could still use a significant amount of work. - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 05:51, 3 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==AHM 15==&lt;br /&gt;
: Now that part of it was used on the cover, should we protect the main part of the article? Might be a dumb idea, but it would be neat to have the main section forever inprinted and reflected on the cover.--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 11:56, 29 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If the site was a shrine to itself. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:22, 29 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Considering we can always link to the appropriate diff if the matter comes up, no reason to worry about it at all. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 17:58, 29 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Universe Classic series toy bios==&lt;br /&gt;
I really think that bio was just referring to Perceptor&#039;s resistance cell as seen in the Marvel Comics.  Do we really need a separate fiction section for this?  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:22, 19 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No.... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 01:37, 19 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Magnification ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I know the old catalogs listed him as having  a magnification of 1x, but surely that isn&#039;t right. A magnification of 1x is what you get with the NAKED EYE, things look 1x the size they really are. That is, no magnification at all. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:04, 10 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I always wondered about that. I&#039;ve seen 1x magnification on other toy-like things. Maybe it is rounded down? Anything that can&#039;t claim to be 2x magnification has to say it is 1x? Or maybe it is a different scale than simple multiplication. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 14:45, 10 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::That would make it different from all other microscopes and lenses in the entire world. All lenses have magnification powers expressed as a simple multiple. If it makes things look twice as big, it is 2x. If it makes things look ten times bigger, it is 10x. If it makes things look one million seven hundred forty-three thousand eight hundred twelve times bigger it is 1743812x. I had always thought that the printer had simply dropped a zero - it should be 10x - as 10x is a standard lens power (the eyepieces of virtually all microscopes are 10x). Does anyone have a loose Perceptor that could be used to approximate the real magnification? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:26, 10 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m pretty sure the old G1 packaging cited 14x.  Even if that&#039;s not what the toy can actually do, if we can confirm this, it should be mentioned.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 13:51, 18 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Just found [http://www.botchthecrab.com/archive/instructions/autobot/1985/instr_perceptor.jpg this] at Botch&#039;s site, updated page. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:54, 11 March 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
The total magnification of a microscope is calculated by multiplying the two lenses (eyepiece and objective lens). I imagine the 1x refers to the objective lens, while the eyepiece is 14x. I don&#039;t own a Perceptor, so I can&#039;t confirm whether this is the case. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 12:16, 11 March 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pictures for Universe ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What kinds of pictures are needed for his Universe toy section? Hasbro stock photos, maybe? The first picture in his toys section seems to be of the Universe reissue. Just asking. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:55, 13 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re right. Looks like the picture and the needs pictures template should be switched. Of course, the picture of the original would pretty much be the same... --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:36, 13 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cybertronian alternate mode? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Does anyone know what Perceptor changes into before he got his microscope mode?  Has it been shown anywhere? [[Special:Contributions/95.148.9.160|95.148.9.160]] 12:48, 30 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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