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<p>98.204.17.1: /* Transformers: War for Cybertron (Xbox 360/PS3/PC) */</p> <hr /> <div>{{faction|autobot}}<br /> {{disambig3|Bumblebee}}<br /> :''Bumblebee is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers: Prime]] [[continuity family]].''<br /> <br /> [[Image:WFC_Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|300px|&quot;Autobots.. [[Johnny Yong Bosch|It's Morphin' Time?&quot;]]]]<br /> <br /> '''Bumblebee''' is a young and eager Autobot, one of the last generation to be created before the loss of the [[Allspark]]. He's full of energy and determination to do the right thing, to take whatever risk and make whatever sacrifice necessary to win the war. He can always be counted on to volunteer for action and his small size matched with his impressive speed make him an excellent scout and messenger. Bumblebee is an opponent it would be easy to underestimate, but anyone who does so is likely to pay a steep price.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===''Exodus: The History of the War for Cybertron''===<br /> {{charstubfiction}}<br /> Bumblebee was part of the last generation of Transformers born on the world prior to [[Well of Allsparks]] ceasing to generate new life. He was a friend of [[Jazz (Prime)|Jazz]] and went with him to the illegal gladiatorial matches beneath Iacon on at least one occassion. <br /> {{storylink|Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers: Prime'' cartoon===<br /> :''Voice actor:'' ???<br /> {{comingsoon}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Video games==<br /> ===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===<br /> :''Voice actor:'' [[Johnny Yong Bosch]] (English), [[Renato Novara]] (Italian)<br /> <br /> <br /> During the Decepticons siege of [[Iacon (city-state)|Iacon City]], Bumblebee volunteered to be a message courier when communications became unreliable. Bumblebee was searching for the one called [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus]] when he was caught by a pair of Decepticons, only to be saved by Optimus and [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]]. Informing Optimus of the death of [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Zeta Prime]], Bumblebee accompanied Optimus and Ratchet to a command center where they were contacted by [[Jetfire (Prime)|Jetfire]], who was leading the aerial counterattack and wanted Zeta to activate the [[planetary gun]]s. After informing Jetfire of Prime's death, Bumblebee helped Optimus and Ratchet make their way to the orbital defenses control room, where they activated the guns. Their next stop was the [[Decagon]], where they could reestablish communications and coordinate Iacon's defense. They hit serious Decepticon resistance, including several [[Decepticon war machine]]s, but ultimately, with help from Jetfire and [[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]], the three made their way to the Decagon, where they faced the last obstacle: [[Air Commander|Sky Commander]] [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]]. Beating the traitorous Seeker, Bumblebee witnessed a desperate communication from Zeta Prime, who was being held in the [[Kaon]] [[Kaon Prison Complex|Prison Complex]]. Optimus resolved to rescue Zeta, and Bumblebee accompanied him.<br /> <br /> Bumblebee, Optimus, and [[Sideswipe (Prime)|Sideswipe]] allowed themselves to be captured raiding supplies outside Kaon, and taken to the prison within the city. [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] ordered them taken to recycling. Bumblebee didn't think that sounded bad, until Sideswipe told him to consider ''what'' they were recycling. As they made their way through the prison, Bumblebee's horror grew, until he was in a near panic when they placed against the firing wall. Fortunately, [[Air Raid (Prime)|Air Raid]] finally arrived and killed the [[Heavy Soldier (WFC)|Heavy Soldier]]s about to execute them. Air Raid was forced to let himself be captured to let the others escape. Finally finding some weapons, the three made their way to a [[wall crawler]] and descended into the prison. When Bumblebee asked if this was good or bad, Optimus replied that it was purely a matter of perspective, while Sideswipe said he was enjoying himself. However, they reached a room where Megatron revealed that he had allowed Zeta's message to be broadcast simply to lure Optimus into a trap. After fighting off some Decepticons, Megatron simply teleported them to a prison cell without their weapons. Fortunately, Optimus managed to break the wall with his axe, freeing them. Heading to rescue Air Raid, the three Autobots rescued the flier, who took them to the control which would open all the prison's hard locks. Unfortunately, Zeta was trapped under the facility and wouldn't be freed by opening the locks. While Air Raid took the freed Autobots back to Iacon, Bumblebee accompanied Optimus and Sideswipe underground to free Zeta, racing through the caverns as the Decepticons blew out the ground. Reaching Zeta Prime's cell, Optimus, Bumblebee, and Sideswipe had to fight through Soundwave's minions to rescue the Autobot leader, but Soundwave stole some of Zeta's life energy and fled, killing the Prime. Taking his body back to Iacon, Bumblebee and Sideswipe bore witness to the [[Autobot High Council]] declaring that Optimus was now Optimus [[Prime (rank)|Prime]], leader of the Autobots. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}<br /> {{charstubfiction}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers: Cybertron Adventures''===<br /> :''Voice actor:'' Johnny Yong Bosch (English), [[Renato Novara]] (Italian)<br /> <br /> {{charstubfiction}}<br /> {{storylink|Transformers: Cybertron Adventures}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Generations===<br /> [[Image:Generationstoy-CybertronianBumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|He stars in Tron 3.0.]]<br /> *'''Cybertronian Bumblebee''' (Deluxe Class, 2010)<br /> :*''Accessories: '' handgun<br /> <br /> : Based on his appearance in the video game ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron]]'', Bumblebee transforms from a yellow and black robot into a &quot;Cybertronian courier mode.&quot; His toy comes with a handgun and features two wrist-mounted flip-out blades. The handgun (described in the packaging only as &quot;weapon&quot;) can be stored inside his rear bumper in either robot or vehicle mode.<br /> <br /> :Bumblebee is part of the first wave of ''[[Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' Deluxes, but he and Cybertronic [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] shipped ahead of their two other wavemates in the United States via [[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us]].<br /> <br /> :This mold will be retooled into [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]]. In fact, Bumblebee's instructions depict him with Cliffjumper's head, revealing the retool before it was officially announced.<br /> <br /> [[Category: Autobots]]<br /> [[Category: Generations]]<br /> [[Category: Prime characters]]</div>

98.204.17.1 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Optimus_Prime_(WFC)&diff=475681 2010-07-08T21:33:57Z

<p>98.204.17.1: /* Transformers: War for Cybertron (Xbox 360/PS3/PC) */</p> <hr /> <div>{{faction|autobot}}<br /> {{disambig3|Optimus Prime}}<br /> :''Optimus Prime is an Autobot from the [[Transformers: Prime (franchise)|Transformers: Prime]] [[continuity family]].''<br /> <br /> [[Image:WFC-OptimusPrimeconcept.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Megatron awakened within him a secret yearning. The slashfic writes itself.]]<br /> <br /> '''Optimus''' was a lowly archivist, but it wasn't until he heard of a rogue gladiator named [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] and his call for an upheaval of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]'s society that he realized he was unsatisfied with his lot in life. Freedom to make your own choice should be the right of all sentient beings! Little did Optimus realize that his boss, [[Alpha Trion]], knew of a secret potential within the archivist, and that Cybertron's history was at a precipice. <br /> <br /> Once Megatron and Optimus discovered they did not have as much in common as they once believed, Optimus was chosen by the [[Autobot High Council]] to be the next [[Prime (rank)|Prime]], '''Optimus Prime'''. The coming battles for determination of Cybertron's future were costly, but Optimus is determined to thwart his former friend's attempts at universal subjugation, no matter where in the galaxy their conflict takes them. <br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===''Exodus: The History of the War for Cybertron''===<br /> {{charstubfiction}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers: Prime'' cartoon===<br /> :''Voice actor:'' [[Peter Cullen]] (English)<br /> {{comingsoon}}<br /> {{Storylink|Transformers: Prime}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Video games==<br /> ===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===<br /> :''Voice actor:'' [[Peter Cullen]] (English), [[Marco Balzarotti]] (Italian)<br /> [[Image:WFC-OptimusPrimeAltmode.jpg|left|thumb|200px]]<br /> <br /> {{charstubfiction}}<br /> {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> Optimus was a autobot general who would prefer to stay out of the spotlight.He first met a Scout named [[Bumblebee (Prime)]] while searching through the decepticon infested streets of Iacon when the core of cybertron was corrupted with [[Dark Energon]].After he was informed of the decepticon leader [[Megatron (Prime)]] and his victory over Zeta prime and [[Omega Supreme (Prime)]] and the autobot high council going into hiding ,Optimus decided to take Bumblebee and Ratchet with him to defend Iacon until a plan could be made.Taking the role of ``temporary`` command of Iacon, Optimus and his team were successful in saving Iacon, defeating [[Starscream (Prime)]] along the way where they came across a message of Zeta prime revealing that he is alive and well(well alive anyway)and that he is being held prisoner in Megatrons capital prison complex...Kaon.After a short argument with Ratchet about whether the message was a trap or not Optimus wins favor and he begins planning for a way to free Zeta Prime.That plan turns out to be to allow himself,Bumblebee,And Sideswipe to be captured by the Decepticons.The Good news is that this allows them into Kaon.The bad news is that that are being taken to get recycled.More good news is that Air raid arrived in time to rescue them.More bad news is that Air raid has been captured as a consequence for saving them.More good news is that the trio save Airraid and the other prisoners,find Zeta Prime,and defeat soundwave.More bad news is that without life life support from Soundwave Zeta Prime dies and Optimus is declared The new Prime by The High council.Sucky day.<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers: Cybertron Adventures''===<br /> :''Voice actor:'' Peter Cullen (English), [[Marco Balzarotti]] (Italian)<br /> <br /> {{charstubfiction}}<br /> {{storylink|Transformers: Cybertron Adventures}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Generations===<br /> [[Image:Generationstoy-CybertronianOptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|300px|It's ''[[War Within]]'' but with fewer chinstraps and handvents.]]<br /> *'''Cybertronian Optimus Prime''' (Deluxe Class, 2010)<br /> :*''Accessories: '' &quot;blaster&quot; rifle<br /> <br /> : Based on his appearance in the video game ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron]]'', Optimus Prime transforms from a red, blue, and silver robot into an &quot;armored truck mode.&quot; His rifle transforms as well, halving itself and plugging into the roof of the vehicle mode. The rifle can also peg into either of his forearms, and in its compacted configuration, it can attach to his shoulders via peg holes on the backs of his front tires. <br /> <br /> :As with, it seems, every modern toy, the instructions fail to show all features of the toy. In this case, neither the instructions nor any promotional photography seem to show that Optimus Prime's knees can rotate out to form a back bumper with tail lights in vehicle mode.<br /> <br /> :Optimus Prime is part of the first wave of ''[[Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' Deluxes, but he and Cybertronian [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] shipped ahead of their two other wavemates via [[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us]].<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Category: Autobot leaders]]<br /> [[Category: Generations]]<br /> [[Category: Matrix bearers]]<br /> [[Category: Prime characters]]</div>

98.204.17.1 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Optimus_Prime_(WFC)&diff=475680 2010-07-08T21:33:38Z

<p>98.204.17.1: /* Transformers: War for Cybertron (Xbox 360/PS3/PC) */</p> <hr /> <div>{{faction|autobot}}<br /> {{disambig3|Optimus Prime}}<br /> :''Optimus Prime is an Autobot from the [[Transformers: Prime (franchise)|Transformers: Prime]] [[continuity family]].''<br /> <br /> [[Image:WFC-OptimusPrimeconcept.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Megatron awakened within him a secret yearning. The slashfic writes itself.]]<br /> <br /> '''Optimus''' was a lowly archivist, but it wasn't until he heard of a rogue gladiator named [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] and his call for an upheaval of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]'s society that he realized he was unsatisfied with his lot in life. Freedom to make your own choice should be the right of all sentient beings! Little did Optimus realize that his boss, [[Alpha Trion]], knew of a secret potential within the archivist, and that Cybertron's history was at a precipice. <br /> <br /> Once Megatron and Optimus discovered they did not have as much in common as they once believed, Optimus was chosen by the [[Autobot High Council]] to be the next [[Prime (rank)|Prime]], '''Optimus Prime'''. The coming battles for determination of Cybertron's future were costly, but Optimus is determined to thwart his former friend's attempts at universal subjugation, no matter where in the galaxy their conflict takes them. <br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===''Exodus: The History of the War for Cybertron''===<br /> {{charstubfiction}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers: Prime'' cartoon===<br /> :''Voice actor:'' [[Peter Cullen]] (English)<br /> {{comingsoon}}<br /> {{Storylink|Transformers: Prime}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Video games==<br /> ===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===<br /> :''Voice actor:'' [[Peter Cullen]] (English), [[Marco Balzarotti]] (Italian)<br /> [[Image:WFC-OptimusPrimeAltmode.jpg|left|thumb|200px]]<br /> <br /> {{charstubfiction}}<br /> {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> Optimus was a autobot general who would prefer to stay out of the spotlight.He first met a Scout named [[Bumblebee (Prime)]] while searching through the decepticon infested streets of Iacon when the core of cybertron was corrupted with [[Dark Energon]].After he was informed of the decepticon leader [[Megatron (Prime)]] and his victory over Zeta prime and [[Omega Supreme (Prime)]] and the autobot high council going into hiding ,Optimus decided to take Bumblebee and Ratchet with him to defend Iacon until a plan could be made.Taking the role of ``temporary`` command of Iacon, Optimus and his team were successful in saving Iacon, defeating [[Starscream (Prime)]] along the way where they come across a message of Zeta prime revealing that he is alive and well(well alive anyway)and that he is being held prisoner in Megatrons capital prison complex...Kaon.After a short argument with Ratchet about whether the message was a trap or not Optimus wins favor and he begins planning for a way to free Zeta Prime.That plan turns out to be to allow himself,Bumblebee,And Sideswipe to be captured by the Decepticons.The Good news is that this allows them into Kaon.The bad news is that that are being taken to get recycled.More good news is that Air raid arrived in time to rescue them.More bad news is that Air raid has been captured as a consequence for saving them.More good news is that the trio save Airraid and the other prisoners,find Zeta Prime,and defeat soundwave.More bad news is that without life life support from Soundwave Zeta Prime dies and Optimus is declared The new Prime by The High council.Sucky day.<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers: Cybertron Adventures''===<br /> :''Voice actor:'' Peter Cullen (English), [[Marco Balzarotti]] (Italian)<br /> <br /> {{charstubfiction}}<br /> {{storylink|Transformers: Cybertron Adventures}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Generations===<br /> [[Image:Generationstoy-CybertronianOptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|300px|It's ''[[War Within]]'' but with fewer chinstraps and handvents.]]<br /> *'''Cybertronian Optimus Prime''' (Deluxe Class, 2010)<br /> :*''Accessories: '' &quot;blaster&quot; rifle<br /> <br /> : Based on his appearance in the video game ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron]]'', Optimus Prime transforms from a red, blue, and silver robot into an &quot;armored truck mode.&quot; His rifle transforms as well, halving itself and plugging into the roof of the vehicle mode. The rifle can also peg into either of his forearms, and in its compacted configuration, it can attach to his shoulders via peg holes on the backs of his front tires. <br /> <br /> :As with, it seems, every modern toy, the instructions fail to show all features of the toy. In this case, neither the instructions nor any promotional photography seem to show that Optimus Prime's knees can rotate out to form a back bumper with tail lights in vehicle mode.<br /> <br /> :Optimus Prime is part of the first wave of ''[[Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' Deluxes, but he and Cybertronian [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] shipped ahead of their two other wavemates via [[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us]].<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Category: Autobot leaders]]<br /> [[Category: Generations]]<br /> [[Category: Matrix bearers]]<br /> [[Category: Prime characters]]</div>

98.204.17.1 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Optimus_Prime_(WFC)&diff=475677 2010-07-08T21:32:15Z

<p>98.204.17.1: /* Transformers: War for Cybertron (Xbox 360/PS3/PC) */</p> <hr /> <div>{{faction|autobot}}<br /> {{disambig3|Optimus Prime}}<br /> :''Optimus Prime is an Autobot from the [[Transformers: Prime (franchise)|Transformers: Prime]] [[continuity family]].''<br /> <br /> [[Image:WFC-OptimusPrimeconcept.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Megatron awakened within him a secret yearning. The slashfic writes itself.]]<br /> <br /> '''Optimus''' was a lowly archivist, but it wasn't until he heard of a rogue gladiator named [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] and his call for an upheaval of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]'s society that he realized he was unsatisfied with his lot in life. Freedom to make your own choice should be the right of all sentient beings! Little did Optimus realize that his boss, [[Alpha Trion]], knew of a secret potential within the archivist, and that Cybertron's history was at a precipice. <br /> <br /> Once Megatron and Optimus discovered they did not have as much in common as they once believed, Optimus was chosen by the [[Autobot High Council]] to be the next [[Prime (rank)|Prime]], '''Optimus Prime'''. The coming battles for determination of Cybertron's future were costly, but Optimus is determined to thwart his former friend's attempts at universal subjugation, no matter where in the galaxy their conflict takes them. <br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===''Exodus: The History of the War for Cybertron''===<br /> {{charstubfiction}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers: Prime'' cartoon===<br /> :''Voice actor:'' [[Peter Cullen]] (English)<br /> {{comingsoon}}<br /> {{Storylink|Transformers: Prime}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Video games==<br /> ===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===<br /> :''Voice actor:'' [[Peter Cullen]] (English), [[Marco Balzarotti]] (Italian)<br /> [[Image:WFC-OptimusPrimeAltmode.jpg|left|thumb|200px]]<br /> <br /> {{charstubfiction}}<br /> {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> Optimus was a autobot general who would prefer to stay out of the spotlight.He first met a Scout named [[Bumblebee (Prime)]] while searching through the decepticon infested streets of Iacon when the core of cybertron was corrupted with [[Dark Energon]].After he was informed of the decepticon leader [[Megatron (Prime)]] and his victory over Zeta prime and [[Omega Supreme (Prime)]] and the autobot high council going into hiding ,Optimus decided to take Bumblebee and Ratchet with him to defend Iacon until a plan could be made.Taking the role of ``temporary`` command of Iacon, Optimus and his team were successful in saving Iacon, defeating [[Starscream (Prime)]] along the way where the come across a message of Zeta prime revealing that he is alive and well(well alive anyway)and that he is being held prisoner in Megatrons capital prison complex...Kaon.After a short argument with Ratchet about whether the message was a trap or not Optimus wins favor and he begins planning for a way to free Zeta Prime.That plan turns out to be to allow himself,Bumblebee,And Sideswipe to be captured by the Decepticons.The Good news is that this allows them into Kaon.The bad news is that that are being taken to get recycled.More good news is that Air raid arrived in time to rescue them.More bad news is that Air raid has been captured as a consequence for saving them.More good news is that the trio save Airraid and the other prisoners,find Zeta Prime,and defeat soundwave.More bad news is that without life life support from Soundwave Zeta Prime dies and Optimus is declared The new Prime by The High council.Sucky day.<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers: Cybertron Adventures''===<br /> :''Voice actor:'' Peter Cullen (English), [[Marco Balzarotti]] (Italian)<br /> <br /> {{charstubfiction}}<br /> {{storylink|Transformers: Cybertron Adventures}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Generations===<br /> [[Image:Generationstoy-CybertronianOptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|300px|It's ''[[War Within]]'' but with fewer chinstraps and handvents.]]<br /> *'''Cybertronian Optimus Prime''' (Deluxe Class, 2010)<br /> :*''Accessories: '' &quot;blaster&quot; rifle<br /> <br /> : Based on his appearance in the video game ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron]]'', Optimus Prime transforms from a red, blue, and silver robot into an &quot;armored truck mode.&quot; His rifle transforms as well, halving itself and plugging into the roof of the vehicle mode. The rifle can also peg into either of his forearms, and in its compacted configuration, it can attach to his shoulders via peg holes on the backs of his front tires. <br /> <br /> :As with, it seems, every modern toy, the instructions fail to show all features of the toy. In this case, neither the instructions nor any promotional photography seem to show that Optimus Prime's knees can rotate out to form a back bumper with tail lights in vehicle mode.<br /> <br /> :Optimus Prime is part of the first wave of ''[[Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' Deluxes, but he and Cybertronian [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] shipped ahead of their two other wavemates via [[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us]].<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Category: Autobot leaders]]<br /> [[Category: Generations]]<br /> [[Category: Matrix bearers]]<br /> [[Category: Prime characters]]</div>

98.204.17.1 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_War_for_Cybertron_(games)&diff=475649 2010-07-08T20:32:38Z

<p>98.204.17.1: /* hmmmm? */</p> <hr /> <div>== G1 Characters ==<br /> <br /> Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> :There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?<br /> :Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say &quot;assumption&quot; isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)<br /> :::The TFW2005 interview states it's &quot;not connected to any particular generation&quot; and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)<br /> ::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::::::How about &quot;WFC&quot;? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> :::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using &quot;WFC&quot; to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)<br /> :::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview &quot;Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe.&quot; The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying &quot;Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not,&quot; or vice-versa &quot;anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?&quot; A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. &quot;Its prehistory is very slightly different&quot; will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than &quot;influenced by it&quot; I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> <br /> To me, this seems every bit as G1 as War Within - Yeah it branches out into it's own story but it's hard to deny that this isn't just as G1 as DW or IDW comics given the use of characters and story telling style. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}} 08:55, 28 June 2010<br /> <br /> == The New trailer ==<br /> <br /> should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> preety much.<br /> <br /> == Logos ==<br /> <br /> I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Starscream? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the &quot;Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault&quot; picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010<br /> Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]<br /> ::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::: I'd say more &quot;Classics-ized&quot; versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Fresh trailer guys ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage<br /> <br /> Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...<br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Third link in &quot;external links&quot; at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Character Sources?==<br /> I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> : For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Release date==<br /> Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)<br /> sweetness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Motormaster ==<br /> <br /> Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version: <br /> http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg<br /> <br /> Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game. <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html<br /> : I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Interview and more gameplay and footage ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story<br /> <br /> Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.<br /> <br /> -Aaron Archer<br /> <br /> -It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.<br /> <br /> -Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?<br /> <br /> -And much more...<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> <br /> == No PSP option... ==<br /> <br /> Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I think its a &quot;revised&quot;<br /> backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Voice actor thing ==<br /> <br /> I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending &quot;false&quot; information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.<br /> :So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with &quot;AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego&quot; and &quot;Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]&quot;. Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not &quot;We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia.&quot; --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with &quot;idiots&quot; over &quot;cover-up&quot;. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> According to IMDB, Soundwave is played by [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0071818/ Jeff Bennet]. Is this legit enough for this wiki? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:22, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Nuh-uh. IMDB is like Wiki where any user can edit the content, be it actual or junk. I rather wait till an official announcement from either Activision or High Moon themselves. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:54, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == New Characters' pages? ==<br /> VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?<br /> : We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)<br /> <br /> VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> <br /> :The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out &quot;Oops, they're part of G1&quot; and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> :I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jazz? ==<br /> <br /> The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave<br /> <br /> == Image Captions/Quotes ==<br /> <br /> So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?<br /> <br /> And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.<br /> <br /> ''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''<br /> <br /> Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved<br /> <br /> [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)<br /> :By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same &quot;gritty dark&quot; feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: &quot;Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little.&quot; Omega Supreme's picture: &quot;Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off.&quot; Megatron: &quot;I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered.&quot; Bumblebee: &quot;Little people first!&quot;<br /> ::For Starscream joining the Decepticons, &quot;What would you have your Arbiter do?&quot; [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 00:36, 06 June 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == New characters ==<br /> <br /> Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the &quot;embargo&quot; pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream_%28WFC%29|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[Special:Contributions/98.204.17.1|98.204.17.1]] 17:45, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Short Answer: No. Long Answer: Well, probably not, they're almost crtainly actual characters in the story version of the game from what we've seen, but no one will know 100% for sure until the game is out and we play through and see. But still, likely, no. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:00, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==<br /> <br /> [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&amp;postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::&quot;Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS...&quot; So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Picked my copy up and it is rather a bit more close to Exodus from the reviews elsewhere. While I don't have a copy of Exodus on hand yet, the charges against Megatron that includes bombing Six Lasers Over Cybertron and kidnapping Sentinel Prime is mentioned. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:20, 24 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Feel free to edit the article I set up at my [[User:Lonegamer78/Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|sandbox]] until we can figure out where to place the comic's article. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == For now... ==<br /> <br /> ...I'm deciding WfC is classified as a Primax-cluster universe. Now that the toys are sort of out, we really need to stick them ''somewhere''. And there's been nothing indicated that its universe isn't terribly G1y. This could change in the future as we come to understand its universe better, but we can move it then. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 2 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm beginning to wonder if the &quot;G1 continuity family&quot; is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't &quot;terribly G1y&quot; in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Division by Game? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> At some point soon are we going to need to give this page a major overhaul? From the sounds of it the Wii and DS versions are going to have signifigant enough character and play differnces that talking about it all as &quot;one single game&quot; would likely become counterproductive. Don't have the time right now to check but isn't that how we've handled multiplatform games in the past? A 360/PS3 section, a Wii section and a DS section? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:15, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I know there are two seperate articles for the PS1 and N64 versions of the Beast Wars Transmetal fighting games. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:54, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::The games actually have different names, as well. The Wii version is called Transformers: Cybertron Adventures. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 23:55, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Usually there's seperate pages for different versions of the games, there'll probably be one for this game too. Might be better to wait until they're out though. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:25, 11 June 2010 (GMT)<br /> <br /> == Matt Tieger Says... ==<br /> I am, right now, listening to a Kotaku podcast where they are interviewing Matt Tieger, and he says War for Cybertron is &quot;like a prequel to G1.&quot; http://ca.kotaku.com/5559654/its-a-prime-time-to-talk-transformers<br /> So, is this confirmation of being G1, or do we still wait until the game or official fiction is released? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:01, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I think the keywords is that he used &quot;like a&quot; on describing WfC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:07, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Another note from the podcast: Matt Tieger says that Corey Burton is NOT the voice of Shockwave, but rather they got a sound-alike. Should this be worth mentioning? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Matt Tieger has also said that WFC is a direct prequel to the G1 cartoon, which is impossible on several levels given what we know. I think a lot of what he says is to get people to buy the game (SHOCK SHOCK I KNOW) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DS Version ==<br /> <br /> Source for all of these &quot;DS-only&quot; guys? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:34, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : People who've played the game. I myself have seen Kup and Dirge fairly early on in the Toys R Us demo version. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:38, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: After going through the game, Kup's actually not playable, never featured beyond his portrait appearing in the tutorial. Hot Rod, on the other hand, is in, though he's named Hot Shot. On the decepticon side, there's also Ramjet, Motormaster and Dragstrip--[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 05:46, 23 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Box Art==<br /> <br /> I have a picture of the Box Art, should I upload it, and if there's a version already here, shouldn't we use it as the Main Picture? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 13:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==<br /> <br /> == I know some missons! ==<br /> <br /> I resantly looked at campaign and misson desighn and it showed the names of some missons lets add that.<br /> :Where did you look at them? Were they officially released by Hasbro/the programming company? If not, then they are not eligible for inclusion on this wiki. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:54, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> yes,<br /> confirmed misson names are <br /> defend iacon,<br /> death of hope,<br /> the final guardian,<br /> fuel of war,<br /> iacon destroyed,<br /> false propaganda,<br /> decagon plaza<br /> these are a few confirmed missons<br /> :Where were they released? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:57, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Confirmed by high moon.<br /> :Where? When? Source, please? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> www.transformersgame.com go to media videos then behind the sceans campagn and misson desighn then when hes choosing a level he scrolls throgh these levels.<br /> <br /> ==James Remar==<br /> So, was this actually confirmed? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:57, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : I also would like to know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I as well, but I like Remar so I filled out his article anyway. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:21, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Given the fact you jumped all over me for that Ausgamers thing, I would have thought this article's creation would have caused some discussion. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:52, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Yeah well I figured with the article locked from anons... the WfC page would've been spared from unsourced statements. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:56, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Someone also added the WfC Starscream thing back onto [[Doug Parker]]'s article. Has THAT been confirmed? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 21:39, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::You know... seeing as how a few folks on the Allspark have snagged copies early, why not just beg them in the thread or PM or something if they can upload screenies/scans (whichever is applicable) of the credits for us? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:40, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::Never mind, now that I'm caught up over there, I see [[User:abates|abates]] already did that. XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:44, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-war-cybertron-discussion/309191-transformers-war-cybertron-cast-spoiler.html Spotted this over on TFW2005], FWIW. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Megatron's voiced by [[Fred Tatasciore]], apparently. (BRB, making new actor pages. :P) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 22:22, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::I will totally fist-pump if he is, because I freakin' called that in ''January''. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 03:49, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Profiles? ==<br /> <br /> Should we bother linking to all of the available official website character profiles, or are we just going to remove the existing links once the game comes out? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:07, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : They count as G1 canon so we should keep them linked to their G1 counterparts.--[[User:Primetime]] 12:06, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: That's not what Jeysie is talking about. She's talking about the links to the official WFC website. &quot;official website character profiles.&quot; Me, uh, I don't really have an opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: Yeah, Walky got it in one.<br /> ::: I guess my confusion was... I wasn't sure if the links were intended as information (in which case, might as well keep 'em), or just as sources for the character being in the game (in which case, once we get an official credits list from the game itself, said sources aren't really needed).<br /> ::: Not that I'm fussed either way... I just was itching to be consistent, and wasn't sure if that involved linking or deleting. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:14, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: For me, more info is almost always better. Link!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Name?==<br /> <br /> Is there a name for the guy I'm referring to as &quot;Giant Autobot tank thing that you fight before Zeta Prime&quot;? He has lines and stuff, but he didn't really look like anybody I recognized. (I refuse to call him by the name &quot;that guy who kicked my ass about a dozen times until I got lucky.&quot;) {{unsigned|Skyshock Thunderblast}} 09:22, 25 June 2010<br /> :I'm pretty sure he's just a generic. You fight a few more during the Decepticon campaign, and some more during the Autobot campaign. I know they call the Decepticon ones &quot;Destroyers,&quot; but I'm not sure what the Autobot ones are called. The loading-screen hints refer to them as, simply, Tanks. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I had assumed &quot;Destroyer&quot; was for both Autobots and Decepticons with that body-type. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:06, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I assumed that as well, but I was just going with what I knew for certain. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:27, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: I would SWEAR I heard one of the other Autobots refer to him by name. Well, Matt Tieger from Full Moon is at BC this year. Ask him? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:56, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::: Tanks for Autobots, Destroyers for Decepticons, according to the subtitles.<br /> == DS Profile Pictures ==<br /> <br /> Any use in screenshots for the characters as they appear in the DS Game? Will also be able to get console versions soon too.<br /> --[[User:Scatterlung|Scatterlung]] 14:22, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Who's the blue Autobot Tank? ==<br /> In the concept art (autobot recruits section, i believe) and the credits, there is a blue Autobot tank that clearly is not a blue version of Warpath, and looks like a completely different design. Is this a reference to a real Transformers character? ''(i don't know everything there is to know about transformers, so to those who do, please have mercy...)'' [[Special:Contributions/24.145.176.54|24.145.176.54]] 14:08, 26 June 2010 (EDT)unregistered contributor (has accounts on other wikis, but doesn't work on this one)<br /> :I'd say Twin Twist; while it's obviously not a jumpstarter, he's the closest thing to a blue and white Autobot tank I could find. The real mystery is why the Constructicon truck and this guy aren't in the game, since those faction/classes only have one mesh right now.<br /> ::I strongly doubt it's Twin Twist. Can you give us any more details about the character? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:59, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I think it's just the model for the generic Autobot tank soldiers you fight in the game. It may not actually be that color of blue (some of the character models aren't the final colors). --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::It certainly isn't, because there aren't any. Is there any real reason it can't be Twin Twist? I can post a pic, but he doesn't look much like anyone in particular (much as the purple/green constructicon doesn't either). Tanks (or heavy enough to be tanks) are rare enough on the Autobot side to narrow it down pretty quickly: the only guys that jump out at me are Twin Twist or animated Sentinel Prime. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pnakotus/tf/IMG_0550.jpg. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.127.90|118.208.127.90]]<br /> :I have the 360 game the guy is in the credits sinama. I think he may be a sneek peak at ultar magnus for this game but thats just my gess. {{unsigned|74.103.61.137}} 06:12, 28 June 2010<br /> :The PC version, having all the bot names apparent on characters' model files, names him as Scattershot.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:50, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Aha, so I was right. Because his head, colors, and altmode are 100% Cybertron Defense [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:54, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Maybe its time for a cleanup ==<br /> <br /> The game is out, the preview stuff is now irrelevant, and solid information regarding plot, characters, continuity etc is available. Devoting 33% of the article to a promotional webgame that hasn't told us anything for six months is ... strange.<br /> :I've worked a bit on the article today. Did a synopsis for the 360 version, but I don't own the Wii or DS ones. Someone else will have to help with those. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:27, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I'd suggest moving the Gallery to the end, using a more TFwiki standard arrangement of images/references/voice actors/etc, removing the useless 'Transmission Recovery' section, and expanding the references section (Primus, conversion cog, etc). [[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::Perhaps the 'Transmission Recovery' section could be split into a new article? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:24, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Sure, but the game isn't playable anymore and the video you 'recover' is just one of the trailers that are freely available.[[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::::Okay, the sections are shuffled to be more logical and in line with other articles. What happened to the plot synopsis? [[User:Pnakotus|Pnakotus]] 00:54, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Advice on writing up the weapons.==<br /> I think the game's variety of weapons deserves a write-up, but I'm not sure if I should make individual pages for them or just put them all on one page. Information for the Null Ray, for example, was already sort-of mentioned on the page for the G1 [[Null ray]]. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I went ahead and made a page for all of the weapons. Definitely needs pics, though... --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 17:01, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I think they really need to have individual pages - the list page doesn't really fit in with how we do things. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Can we lock these WFC articles down? ==<br /> <br /> Or else I'm going to be spending the rest of my time on the wiki attempting to write WFC articles only to have to clean up after anon users (and relatively new members who don't know how to write in our style). Then I will give up because the articles are now too much work to get up to standards, video gamers who edited these articles have amazingly short attention spans and have left, and I'm the only one left who edits these things, as seen here last year: [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)]] *cries* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:29, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Which ones? just the main game articles? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:19, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Probably for the best. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:01, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Hey, I can still edit these things too! I need to...uh...actually finish the game first, though. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:38, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == G1? ==<br /> <br /> This game SHOULD NOT be connected to the prime series.WHICH IS WHY HASBRO PUT THIS AS CANNON TO THE G1 series.you can not tell me that the storline for the game is the same as the exodus comic book.-- [[user:Primetime]] july 6,2010 (EDT)<br /> :We might take you more seriously if you're not screaming at us and misspelling &quot;canon&quot;. Just a suggestion. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:39, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, Exodus isn't a comic book, and it's marketed as a tie-in novel to the game. So for all intents and purposes it is the novelization of the game, even if it's not exactly the same.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :They did? When? Where? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:49, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> 1:I'm not yelling,I just typed it that way.2:It's a tie-in comic?3:This wiki hardly listens to other users to the point where i should be yelling.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:57,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Exodus mentions the video game in its trade dress in several places. Also, as I said, it's not even a comic.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:16, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> hmmmmm, so which one is the g1 prequel because high moon sayed their storyline was a g1 prequel(read interviews).And they came out first and hasbro is just trying to jazz things up with things like Exodus and the prime cartoon(which is sayed to be a movie prequel but I don't know).--[[Primetime|Primetime]] 01:36,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Exodus was released on the same day as War for Cybertron. Because, again, it's a marketing tie-in.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:40, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> Thats great! now like I sayed before is it G1 liked the interviews sayed or not like some of you keep saying(I mean the game).--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:26 7, July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :It's the backstory for the new continuity that the Prime cartoon on the Hub will share. This was confirmed at BotCon. The new continuity borrows elements from several past ones, including a movie-style AllSpark, a series of space bridges leading to Cybertronian colonies a la Galaxy Force/Cybertron, the Elite Guard from Animated, the Wreckers, and a great many other nods to previous work. It is not exclusively G1 that is referenced.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:37, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::NO IT IS NOT G1. STOP INTERPRETING STUFF HIGH MOON STUDIOS SAID SO THE GAME WOULD SELL BETTER AS WORD OF GOD. <br /> ::I had to get that out of my system. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 02:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :If it's G1, why is there an AllSpark cube? Why is Bumblebee mute? And what's Gigantion doing there? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 09:46, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, Thy, that's all stuff from the Exodus novel, not WFC proper. They're tied together, but the original poster was only speaking about the game. (Annoyingly enough, Bumblebee loses his voice in the novel before the events of the game (loosely) take place, making Bumblebee's talking kind of, you know, another fun discrepancy.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:48, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> SOOO doesn't that mean the Exodus Novel and the game are not related due to the MAJOR differences in the storyline(because honestly the game seems REALLY like its a G1 prequel).And if you disagree explain why bumblebee can suddenly talk again and he is just meeting optimus and ratchet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:00,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> : If it fits with G1 how come the designs are different, Dinobots, Combaticons and Aerialbots are present, the origin of Optimus is different, the origin of the Matrix is different, the way they leave the planet is different etc. etc. etc. etc.? {{unsigned|201.88.66.127|12:16, 7 July 2010}}<br /> ::That's been done all the time. The cartoon characters had different Cybertronian forms than the Dreamwave characters, but they're both G1. Plus, the Dinobots, Stunticons et al were in the War Within. Still, this game isn't G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 12:27, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Those wouldn't keep it out of G1, but DO prevent it from being the backstory to the G1 toon. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:36, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> : Inconsistencies in story do not magically make Exodus anything other than a marketing tie-in to the game. They are intended to go together. If you likewise choose to ignore the fact that Hasbro have said that this will continue on into Prime and beyond, I don't know what more we can get out of this discussion.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 12:26, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> Okay High moon is STILL saying their game is a prequel to G1 even after they released the game.We SHOULD make new WFC pages,or link them back to G1.Forget hasbro right now I'm talking about High moon and their intentions for their game.No prime or Exodus.---[[Primetime|Primetime]] 1:14, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :WFC is part of the backstory for TF:Prime. It seems like it can apply to G1 too because TF:Prime is deliberately mirroring a lot of G1, especially in past setup. But they're not the same and we will not treat them the same. Unless High Moon is also writing the next cartoon, that's that. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 13:25, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::&quot;Forget Hasbro&quot;? You do realize that Hasbro has the final say on things, not High Moon. High Moon's statements are simply marketing, not fiction. Of course, why we are bothering to try to explain this to someone whose grasp of English does not include the simple word &quot;said&quot; is beyond me. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:36, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::This is either a troll or someone who does not understand English. (Who, BTW, happens to share his username with a notorious Wikipedia troll/vandal) Either way this is getting ridiculous. High Moon DOES NOT have the final say on this stuff, their statement about WFC being G1 WAS intended to get more people to buy the game, YOU ARE AN ANNOYING LITTLE MAN, Primetime. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:54, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> (sighs)Okay look,lets drop this WHOLE topic.I might have misspelled on ACCIDENT and generally I was asking a question that you guys kept dodging.I'm not a troll(never heard of the ''notorious troll on wikia before that you're talking about'')so lets leave it alone and keep igonoring my question and go on with our lives.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:12, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :We've answered your question. Repeatedly. This IS NOT a prequel to the G1 toon, because Hasbro says it isn't. The hyperbole and metaphor used by High Moon as marketing strategy does not enter into things. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:24, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> OOOKKKKAAAYYY I understand, now stop Talking about it.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 14:35, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == pages ==<br /> <br /> When are we going to create more character pages(e.g.Jetfire,Air Raid)?Just wondering because for some reason instead of a page for Ironhide we have a page for scattershot who isn't released yet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 14:48,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :We just got an avalanche of materials to work through - AllSpark Almanac 2, Exodus, BotCon coverage - so it's going to take time to create other character pages when we get to it. &quot;Your patience will be rewarded.&quot; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:55, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DLC ==<br /> Shouldn't we put more info about the upcoming dlc somewhere on this page because the ''extra info'' I'm talking about has already been confirmed(e.g.maps,characters).Right now the only info is the characters.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 3:41,8 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Dude, please. It's perfectly fine to ask for an article to be brought up to date, but it's pointless to tell anyone &quot;shouldn't we complete this article&quot;. There's tons of articles to complete and whoever's on it is on it. If no one's on it yet, someone will be on it later. If you feel there's information missing, information you have access to, you can always try add it yourself. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:12, 8 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == hmmmm? ==<br /> Question!Question!so ummmm...would WFC really go on the same page as the prime series due to the differences in storyline because it seems like it they would have different pages.Can someone please explain why because its kinda confusing.--[[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 16:04,July 8 2010 (EDT)<br /> :No. WFC is a version of Prime, so it goes on the Prime pages under its own section. The same way the cartoon, Marvel, Dreamwave, Devil's Due, IDW are all versions of G1 and so go on the G1 pages. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:15, 8 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ohhhh,okay thank you.-- [[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 16:15, 8 July 2010 (EDT)</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* DLC */</p> <hr /> <div>== G1 Characters ==<br /> <br /> Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> :There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?<br /> :Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say &quot;assumption&quot; isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)<br /> :::The TFW2005 interview states it's &quot;not connected to any particular generation&quot; and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)<br /> ::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::::::How about &quot;WFC&quot;? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> :::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using &quot;WFC&quot; to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)<br /> :::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview &quot;Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe.&quot; The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying &quot;Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not,&quot; or vice-versa &quot;anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?&quot; A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. &quot;Its prehistory is very slightly different&quot; will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than &quot;influenced by it&quot; I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> <br /> To me, this seems every bit as G1 as War Within - Yeah it branches out into it's own story but it's hard to deny that this isn't just as G1 as DW or IDW comics given the use of characters and story telling style. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}} 08:55, 28 June 2010<br /> <br /> == The New trailer ==<br /> <br /> should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> preety much.<br /> <br /> == Logos ==<br /> <br /> I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Starscream? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the &quot;Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault&quot; picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010<br /> Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]<br /> ::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::: I'd say more &quot;Classics-ized&quot; versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Fresh trailer guys ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage<br /> <br /> Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...<br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Third link in &quot;external links&quot; at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Character Sources?==<br /> I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> : For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Release date==<br /> Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)<br /> sweetness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Motormaster ==<br /> <br /> Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version: <br /> http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg<br /> <br /> Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game. <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html<br /> : I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Interview and more gameplay and footage ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story<br /> <br /> Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.<br /> <br /> -Aaron Archer<br /> <br /> -It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.<br /> <br /> -Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?<br /> <br /> -And much more...<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> <br /> == No PSP option... ==<br /> <br /> Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I think its a &quot;revised&quot;<br /> backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Voice actor thing ==<br /> <br /> I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending &quot;false&quot; information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.<br /> :So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with &quot;AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego&quot; and &quot;Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]&quot;. Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not &quot;We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia.&quot; --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with &quot;idiots&quot; over &quot;cover-up&quot;. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> According to IMDB, Soundwave is played by [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0071818/ Jeff Bennet]. Is this legit enough for this wiki? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:22, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Nuh-uh. IMDB is like Wiki where any user can edit the content, be it actual or junk. I rather wait till an official announcement from either Activision or High Moon themselves. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:54, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == New Characters' pages? ==<br /> VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?<br /> : We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)<br /> <br /> VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> <br /> :The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out &quot;Oops, they're part of G1&quot; and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> :I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jazz? ==<br /> <br /> The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave<br /> <br /> == Image Captions/Quotes ==<br /> <br /> So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?<br /> <br /> And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.<br /> <br /> ''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''<br /> <br /> Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved<br /> <br /> [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)<br /> :By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same &quot;gritty dark&quot; feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: &quot;Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little.&quot; Omega Supreme's picture: &quot;Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off.&quot; Megatron: &quot;I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered.&quot; Bumblebee: &quot;Little people first!&quot;<br /> ::For Starscream joining the Decepticons, &quot;What would you have your Arbiter do?&quot; [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 00:36, 06 June 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == New characters ==<br /> <br /> Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the &quot;embargo&quot; pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream_%28WFC%29|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[Special:Contributions/98.204.17.1|98.204.17.1]] 17:45, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Short Answer: No. Long Answer: Well, probably not, they're almost crtainly actual characters in the story version of the game from what we've seen, but no one will know 100% for sure until the game is out and we play through and see. But still, likely, no. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:00, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==<br /> <br /> [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&amp;postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::&quot;Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS...&quot; So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Picked my copy up and it is rather a bit more close to Exodus from the reviews elsewhere. While I don't have a copy of Exodus on hand yet, the charges against Megatron that includes bombing Six Lasers Over Cybertron and kidnapping Sentinel Prime is mentioned. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:20, 24 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Feel free to edit the article I set up at my [[User:Lonegamer78/Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|sandbox]] until we can figure out where to place the comic's article. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == For now... ==<br /> <br /> ...I'm deciding WfC is classified as a Primax-cluster universe. Now that the toys are sort of out, we really need to stick them ''somewhere''. And there's been nothing indicated that its universe isn't terribly G1y. This could change in the future as we come to understand its universe better, but we can move it then. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 2 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm beginning to wonder if the &quot;G1 continuity family&quot; is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't &quot;terribly G1y&quot; in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Division by Game? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> At some point soon are we going to need to give this page a major overhaul? From the sounds of it the Wii and DS versions are going to have signifigant enough character and play differnces that talking about it all as &quot;one single game&quot; would likely become counterproductive. Don't have the time right now to check but isn't that how we've handled multiplatform games in the past? A 360/PS3 section, a Wii section and a DS section? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:15, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I know there are two seperate articles for the PS1 and N64 versions of the Beast Wars Transmetal fighting games. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:54, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::The games actually have different names, as well. The Wii version is called Transformers: Cybertron Adventures. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 23:55, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Usually there's seperate pages for different versions of the games, there'll probably be one for this game too. Might be better to wait until they're out though. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:25, 11 June 2010 (GMT)<br /> <br /> == Matt Tieger Says... ==<br /> I am, right now, listening to a Kotaku podcast where they are interviewing Matt Tieger, and he says War for Cybertron is &quot;like a prequel to G1.&quot; http://ca.kotaku.com/5559654/its-a-prime-time-to-talk-transformers<br /> So, is this confirmation of being G1, or do we still wait until the game or official fiction is released? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:01, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I think the keywords is that he used &quot;like a&quot; on describing WfC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:07, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Another note from the podcast: Matt Tieger says that Corey Burton is NOT the voice of Shockwave, but rather they got a sound-alike. Should this be worth mentioning? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Matt Tieger has also said that WFC is a direct prequel to the G1 cartoon, which is impossible on several levels given what we know. I think a lot of what he says is to get people to buy the game (SHOCK SHOCK I KNOW) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DS Version ==<br /> <br /> Source for all of these &quot;DS-only&quot; guys? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:34, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : People who've played the game. I myself have seen Kup and Dirge fairly early on in the Toys R Us demo version. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:38, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: After going through the game, Kup's actually not playable, never featured beyond his portrait appearing in the tutorial. Hot Rod, on the other hand, is in, though he's named Hot Shot. On the decepticon side, there's also Ramjet, Motormaster and Dragstrip--[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 05:46, 23 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Box Art==<br /> <br /> I have a picture of the Box Art, should I upload it, and if there's a version already here, shouldn't we use it as the Main Picture? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 13:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==<br /> <br /> == I know some missons! ==<br /> <br /> I resantly looked at campaign and misson desighn and it showed the names of some missons lets add that.<br /> :Where did you look at them? Were they officially released by Hasbro/the programming company? If not, then they are not eligible for inclusion on this wiki. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:54, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> yes,<br /> confirmed misson names are <br /> defend iacon,<br /> death of hope,<br /> the final guardian,<br /> fuel of war,<br /> iacon destroyed,<br /> false propaganda,<br /> decagon plaza<br /> these are a few confirmed missons<br /> :Where were they released? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:57, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Confirmed by high moon.<br /> :Where? When? Source, please? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> www.transformersgame.com go to media videos then behind the sceans campagn and misson desighn then when hes choosing a level he scrolls throgh these levels.<br /> <br /> ==James Remar==<br /> So, was this actually confirmed? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:57, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : I also would like to know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I as well, but I like Remar so I filled out his article anyway. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:21, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Given the fact you jumped all over me for that Ausgamers thing, I would have thought this article's creation would have caused some discussion. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:52, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Yeah well I figured with the article locked from anons... the WfC page would've been spared from unsourced statements. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:56, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Someone also added the WfC Starscream thing back onto [[Doug Parker]]'s article. Has THAT been confirmed? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 21:39, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::You know... seeing as how a few folks on the Allspark have snagged copies early, why not just beg them in the thread or PM or something if they can upload screenies/scans (whichever is applicable) of the credits for us? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:40, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::Never mind, now that I'm caught up over there, I see [[User:abates|abates]] already did that. XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:44, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-war-cybertron-discussion/309191-transformers-war-cybertron-cast-spoiler.html Spotted this over on TFW2005], FWIW. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Megatron's voiced by [[Fred Tatasciore]], apparently. (BRB, making new actor pages. :P) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 22:22, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::I will totally fist-pump if he is, because I freakin' called that in ''January''. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 03:49, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Profiles? ==<br /> <br /> Should we bother linking to all of the available official website character profiles, or are we just going to remove the existing links once the game comes out? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:07, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : They count as G1 canon so we should keep them linked to their G1 counterparts.--[[User:Primetime]] 12:06, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: That's not what Jeysie is talking about. She's talking about the links to the official WFC website. &quot;official website character profiles.&quot; Me, uh, I don't really have an opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: Yeah, Walky got it in one.<br /> ::: I guess my confusion was... I wasn't sure if the links were intended as information (in which case, might as well keep 'em), or just as sources for the character being in the game (in which case, once we get an official credits list from the game itself, said sources aren't really needed).<br /> ::: Not that I'm fussed either way... I just was itching to be consistent, and wasn't sure if that involved linking or deleting. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:14, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: For me, more info is almost always better. Link!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Name?==<br /> <br /> Is there a name for the guy I'm referring to as &quot;Giant Autobot tank thing that you fight before Zeta Prime&quot;? He has lines and stuff, but he didn't really look like anybody I recognized. (I refuse to call him by the name &quot;that guy who kicked my ass about a dozen times until I got lucky.&quot;) {{unsigned|Skyshock Thunderblast}} 09:22, 25 June 2010<br /> :I'm pretty sure he's just a generic. You fight a few more during the Decepticon campaign, and some more during the Autobot campaign. I know they call the Decepticon ones &quot;Destroyers,&quot; but I'm not sure what the Autobot ones are called. The loading-screen hints refer to them as, simply, Tanks. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I had assumed &quot;Destroyer&quot; was for both Autobots and Decepticons with that body-type. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:06, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I assumed that as well, but I was just going with what I knew for certain. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:27, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: I would SWEAR I heard one of the other Autobots refer to him by name. Well, Matt Tieger from Full Moon is at BC this year. Ask him? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:56, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::: Tanks for Autobots, Destroyers for Decepticons, according to the subtitles.<br /> == DS Profile Pictures ==<br /> <br /> Any use in screenshots for the characters as they appear in the DS Game? Will also be able to get console versions soon too.<br /> --[[User:Scatterlung|Scatterlung]] 14:22, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Who's the blue Autobot Tank? ==<br /> In the concept art (autobot recruits section, i believe) and the credits, there is a blue Autobot tank that clearly is not a blue version of Warpath, and looks like a completely different design. Is this a reference to a real Transformers character? ''(i don't know everything there is to know about transformers, so to those who do, please have mercy...)'' [[Special:Contributions/24.145.176.54|24.145.176.54]] 14:08, 26 June 2010 (EDT)unregistered contributor (has accounts on other wikis, but doesn't work on this one)<br /> :I'd say Twin Twist; while it's obviously not a jumpstarter, he's the closest thing to a blue and white Autobot tank I could find. The real mystery is why the Constructicon truck and this guy aren't in the game, since those faction/classes only have one mesh right now.<br /> ::I strongly doubt it's Twin Twist. Can you give us any more details about the character? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:59, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I think it's just the model for the generic Autobot tank soldiers you fight in the game. It may not actually be that color of blue (some of the character models aren't the final colors). --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::It certainly isn't, because there aren't any. Is there any real reason it can't be Twin Twist? I can post a pic, but he doesn't look much like anyone in particular (much as the purple/green constructicon doesn't either). Tanks (or heavy enough to be tanks) are rare enough on the Autobot side to narrow it down pretty quickly: the only guys that jump out at me are Twin Twist or animated Sentinel Prime. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pnakotus/tf/IMG_0550.jpg. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.127.90|118.208.127.90]]<br /> :I have the 360 game the guy is in the credits sinama. I think he may be a sneek peak at ultar magnus for this game but thats just my gess. {{unsigned|74.103.61.137}} 06:12, 28 June 2010<br /> :The PC version, having all the bot names apparent on characters' model files, names him as Scattershot.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:50, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Aha, so I was right. Because his head, colors, and altmode are 100% Cybertron Defense [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:54, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Maybe its time for a cleanup ==<br /> <br /> The game is out, the preview stuff is now irrelevant, and solid information regarding plot, characters, continuity etc is available. Devoting 33% of the article to a promotional webgame that hasn't told us anything for six months is ... strange.<br /> :I've worked a bit on the article today. Did a synopsis for the 360 version, but I don't own the Wii or DS ones. Someone else will have to help with those. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:27, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I'd suggest moving the Gallery to the end, using a more TFwiki standard arrangement of images/references/voice actors/etc, removing the useless 'Transmission Recovery' section, and expanding the references section (Primus, conversion cog, etc). [[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::Perhaps the 'Transmission Recovery' section could be split into a new article? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:24, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Sure, but the game isn't playable anymore and the video you 'recover' is just one of the trailers that are freely available.[[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::::Okay, the sections are shuffled to be more logical and in line with other articles. What happened to the plot synopsis? [[User:Pnakotus|Pnakotus]] 00:54, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Advice on writing up the weapons.==<br /> I think the game's variety of weapons deserves a write-up, but I'm not sure if I should make individual pages for them or just put them all on one page. Information for the Null Ray, for example, was already sort-of mentioned on the page for the G1 [[Null ray]]. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I went ahead and made a page for all of the weapons. Definitely needs pics, though... --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 17:01, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I think they really need to have individual pages - the list page doesn't really fit in with how we do things. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Can we lock these WFC articles down? ==<br /> <br /> Or else I'm going to be spending the rest of my time on the wiki attempting to write WFC articles only to have to clean up after anon users (and relatively new members who don't know how to write in our style). Then I will give up because the articles are now too much work to get up to standards, video gamers who edited these articles have amazingly short attention spans and have left, and I'm the only one left who edits these things, as seen here last year: [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)]] *cries* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:29, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Which ones? just the main game articles? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:19, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Probably for the best. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:01, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Hey, I can still edit these things too! I need to...uh...actually finish the game first, though. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:38, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == pages ==<br /> <br /> When are we going to create more character pages(e.g.Jetfire,Air Raid)?Just wondering because for some reason instead of a page for Ironhide we have a page for scattershot who isn't released yet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 14:48,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :We just got an avalanche of materials to work through - AllSpark Almanac 2, Exodus, BotCon coverage - so it's going to take time to create other character pages when we get to it. &quot;Your patience will be rewarded.&quot; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:55, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DLC ==<br /> <br /> Shouldn't we put more info about the upcoming dlc somewhere on this page because the ''extra info'' I'm talking about has already been confirmed(e.g.maps,characters).Right now the only info is the characters.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 3:41,8 July 2010 (EDT)</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: </p> <hr /> <div>== G1 Characters ==<br /> <br /> Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> :There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?<br /> :Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say &quot;assumption&quot; isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)<br /> :::The TFW2005 interview states it's &quot;not connected to any particular generation&quot; and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)<br /> ::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::::::How about &quot;WFC&quot;? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> :::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using &quot;WFC&quot; to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)<br /> :::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview &quot;Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe.&quot; The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying &quot;Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not,&quot; or vice-versa &quot;anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?&quot; A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. &quot;Its prehistory is very slightly different&quot; will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than &quot;influenced by it&quot; I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> <br /> To me, this seems every bit as G1 as War Within - Yeah it branches out into it's own story but it's hard to deny that this isn't just as G1 as DW or IDW comics given the use of characters and story telling style. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}} 08:55, 28 June 2010<br /> <br /> == The New trailer ==<br /> <br /> should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> preety much.<br /> <br /> == Logos ==<br /> <br /> I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Starscream? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the &quot;Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault&quot; picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010<br /> Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]<br /> ::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::: I'd say more &quot;Classics-ized&quot; versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Fresh trailer guys ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage<br /> <br /> Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...<br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Third link in &quot;external links&quot; at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Character Sources?==<br /> I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> : For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Release date==<br /> Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)<br /> sweetness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Motormaster ==<br /> <br /> Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version: <br /> http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg<br /> <br /> Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game. <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html<br /> : I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Interview and more gameplay and footage ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story<br /> <br /> Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.<br /> <br /> -Aaron Archer<br /> <br /> -It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.<br /> <br /> -Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?<br /> <br /> -And much more...<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> <br /> == No PSP option... ==<br /> <br /> Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I think its a &quot;revised&quot;<br /> backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Voice actor thing ==<br /> <br /> I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending &quot;false&quot; information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.<br /> :So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with &quot;AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego&quot; and &quot;Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]&quot;. Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not &quot;We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia.&quot; --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with &quot;idiots&quot; over &quot;cover-up&quot;. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> According to IMDB, Soundwave is played by [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0071818/ Jeff Bennet]. Is this legit enough for this wiki? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:22, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Nuh-uh. IMDB is like Wiki where any user can edit the content, be it actual or junk. I rather wait till an official announcement from either Activision or High Moon themselves. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:54, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == New Characters' pages? ==<br /> VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?<br /> : We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)<br /> <br /> VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> <br /> :The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out &quot;Oops, they're part of G1&quot; and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> :I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jazz? ==<br /> <br /> The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave<br /> <br /> == Image Captions/Quotes ==<br /> <br /> So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?<br /> <br /> And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.<br /> <br /> ''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''<br /> <br /> Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved<br /> <br /> [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)<br /> :By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same &quot;gritty dark&quot; feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: &quot;Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little.&quot; Omega Supreme's picture: &quot;Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off.&quot; Megatron: &quot;I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered.&quot; Bumblebee: &quot;Little people first!&quot;<br /> ::For Starscream joining the Decepticons, &quot;What would you have your Arbiter do?&quot; [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 00:36, 06 June 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == New characters ==<br /> <br /> Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the &quot;embargo&quot; pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream_%28WFC%29|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[Special:Contributions/98.204.17.1|98.204.17.1]] 17:45, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Short Answer: No. Long Answer: Well, probably not, they're almost crtainly actual characters in the story version of the game from what we've seen, but no one will know 100% for sure until the game is out and we play through and see. But still, likely, no. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:00, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==<br /> <br /> [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&amp;postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::&quot;Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS...&quot; So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Picked my copy up and it is rather a bit more close to Exodus from the reviews elsewhere. While I don't have a copy of Exodus on hand yet, the charges against Megatron that includes bombing Six Lasers Over Cybertron and kidnapping Sentinel Prime is mentioned. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:20, 24 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Feel free to edit the article I set up at my [[User:Lonegamer78/Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|sandbox]] until we can figure out where to place the comic's article. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == For now... ==<br /> <br /> ...I'm deciding WfC is classified as a Primax-cluster universe. Now that the toys are sort of out, we really need to stick them ''somewhere''. And there's been nothing indicated that its universe isn't terribly G1y. This could change in the future as we come to understand its universe better, but we can move it then. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 2 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm beginning to wonder if the &quot;G1 continuity family&quot; is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't &quot;terribly G1y&quot; in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Division by Game? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> At some point soon are we going to need to give this page a major overhaul? From the sounds of it the Wii and DS versions are going to have signifigant enough character and play differnces that talking about it all as &quot;one single game&quot; would likely become counterproductive. Don't have the time right now to check but isn't that how we've handled multiplatform games in the past? A 360/PS3 section, a Wii section and a DS section? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:15, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I know there are two seperate articles for the PS1 and N64 versions of the Beast Wars Transmetal fighting games. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:54, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::The games actually have different names, as well. The Wii version is called Transformers: Cybertron Adventures. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 23:55, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Usually there's seperate pages for different versions of the games, there'll probably be one for this game too. Might be better to wait until they're out though. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:25, 11 June 2010 (GMT)<br /> <br /> == Matt Tieger Says... ==<br /> I am, right now, listening to a Kotaku podcast where they are interviewing Matt Tieger, and he says War for Cybertron is &quot;like a prequel to G1.&quot; http://ca.kotaku.com/5559654/its-a-prime-time-to-talk-transformers<br /> So, is this confirmation of being G1, or do we still wait until the game or official fiction is released? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:01, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I think the keywords is that he used &quot;like a&quot; on describing WfC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:07, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Another note from the podcast: Matt Tieger says that Corey Burton is NOT the voice of Shockwave, but rather they got a sound-alike. Should this be worth mentioning? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Matt Tieger has also said that WFC is a direct prequel to the G1 cartoon, which is impossible on several levels given what we know. I think a lot of what he says is to get people to buy the game (SHOCK SHOCK I KNOW) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DS Version ==<br /> <br /> Source for all of these &quot;DS-only&quot; guys? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:34, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : People who've played the game. I myself have seen Kup and Dirge fairly early on in the Toys R Us demo version. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:38, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: After going through the game, Kup's actually not playable, never featured beyond his portrait appearing in the tutorial. Hot Rod, on the other hand, is in, though he's named Hot Shot. On the decepticon side, there's also Ramjet, Motormaster and Dragstrip--[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 05:46, 23 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Box Art==<br /> <br /> I have a picture of the Box Art, should I upload it, and if there's a version already here, shouldn't we use it as the Main Picture? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 13:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==<br /> <br /> == I know some missons! ==<br /> <br /> I resantly looked at campaign and misson desighn and it showed the names of some missons lets add that.<br /> :Where did you look at them? Were they officially released by Hasbro/the programming company? If not, then they are not eligible for inclusion on this wiki. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:54, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> yes,<br /> confirmed misson names are <br /> defend iacon,<br /> death of hope,<br /> the final guardian,<br /> fuel of war,<br /> iacon destroyed,<br /> false propaganda,<br /> decagon plaza<br /> these are a few confirmed missons<br /> :Where were they released? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:57, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Confirmed by high moon.<br /> :Where? When? Source, please? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> www.transformersgame.com go to media videos then behind the sceans campagn and misson desighn then when hes choosing a level he scrolls throgh these levels.<br /> <br /> ==James Remar==<br /> So, was this actually confirmed? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:57, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : I also would like to know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I as well, but I like Remar so I filled out his article anyway. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:21, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Given the fact you jumped all over me for that Ausgamers thing, I would have thought this article's creation would have caused some discussion. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:52, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Yeah well I figured with the article locked from anons... the WfC page would've been spared from unsourced statements. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:56, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Someone also added the WfC Starscream thing back onto [[Doug Parker]]'s article. Has THAT been confirmed? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 21:39, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::You know... seeing as how a few folks on the Allspark have snagged copies early, why not just beg them in the thread or PM or something if they can upload screenies/scans (whichever is applicable) of the credits for us? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:40, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::Never mind, now that I'm caught up over there, I see [[User:abates|abates]] already did that. XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:44, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-war-cybertron-discussion/309191-transformers-war-cybertron-cast-spoiler.html Spotted this over on TFW2005], FWIW. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Megatron's voiced by [[Fred Tatasciore]], apparently. (BRB, making new actor pages. :P) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 22:22, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::I will totally fist-pump if he is, because I freakin' called that in ''January''. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 03:49, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Profiles? ==<br /> <br /> Should we bother linking to all of the available official website character profiles, or are we just going to remove the existing links once the game comes out? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:07, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : They count as G1 canon so we should keep them linked to their G1 counterparts.--[[User:Primetime]] 12:06, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: That's not what Jeysie is talking about. She's talking about the links to the official WFC website. &quot;official website character profiles.&quot; Me, uh, I don't really have an opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: Yeah, Walky got it in one.<br /> ::: I guess my confusion was... I wasn't sure if the links were intended as information (in which case, might as well keep 'em), or just as sources for the character being in the game (in which case, once we get an official credits list from the game itself, said sources aren't really needed).<br /> ::: Not that I'm fussed either way... I just was itching to be consistent, and wasn't sure if that involved linking or deleting. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:14, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: For me, more info is almost always better. Link!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Name?==<br /> <br /> Is there a name for the guy I'm referring to as &quot;Giant Autobot tank thing that you fight before Zeta Prime&quot;? He has lines and stuff, but he didn't really look like anybody I recognized. (I refuse to call him by the name &quot;that guy who kicked my ass about a dozen times until I got lucky.&quot;) {{unsigned|Skyshock Thunderblast}} 09:22, 25 June 2010<br /> :I'm pretty sure he's just a generic. You fight a few more during the Decepticon campaign, and some more during the Autobot campaign. I know they call the Decepticon ones &quot;Destroyers,&quot; but I'm not sure what the Autobot ones are called. The loading-screen hints refer to them as, simply, Tanks. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I had assumed &quot;Destroyer&quot; was for both Autobots and Decepticons with that body-type. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:06, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I assumed that as well, but I was just going with what I knew for certain. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:27, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: I would SWEAR I heard one of the other Autobots refer to him by name. Well, Matt Tieger from Full Moon is at BC this year. Ask him? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:56, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::: Tanks for Autobots, Destroyers for Decepticons, according to the subtitles.<br /> == DS Profile Pictures ==<br /> <br /> Any use in screenshots for the characters as they appear in the DS Game? Will also be able to get console versions soon too.<br /> --[[User:Scatterlung|Scatterlung]] 14:22, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Who's the blue Autobot Tank? ==<br /> In the concept art (autobot recruits section, i believe) and the credits, there is a blue Autobot tank that clearly is not a blue version of Warpath, and looks like a completely different design. Is this a reference to a real Transformers character? ''(i don't know everything there is to know about transformers, so to those who do, please have mercy...)'' [[Special:Contributions/24.145.176.54|24.145.176.54]] 14:08, 26 June 2010 (EDT)unregistered contributor (has accounts on other wikis, but doesn't work on this one)<br /> :I'd say Twin Twist; while it's obviously not a jumpstarter, he's the closest thing to a blue and white Autobot tank I could find. The real mystery is why the Constructicon truck and this guy aren't in the game, since those faction/classes only have one mesh right now.<br /> ::I strongly doubt it's Twin Twist. Can you give us any more details about the character? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:59, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I think it's just the model for the generic Autobot tank soldiers you fight in the game. It may not actually be that color of blue (some of the character models aren't the final colors). --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::It certainly isn't, because there aren't any. Is there any real reason it can't be Twin Twist? I can post a pic, but he doesn't look much like anyone in particular (much as the purple/green constructicon doesn't either). Tanks (or heavy enough to be tanks) are rare enough on the Autobot side to narrow it down pretty quickly: the only guys that jump out at me are Twin Twist or animated Sentinel Prime. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pnakotus/tf/IMG_0550.jpg. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.127.90|118.208.127.90]]<br /> :I have the 360 game the guy is in the credits sinama. I think he may be a sneek peak at ultar magnus for this game but thats just my gess. {{unsigned|74.103.61.137}} 06:12, 28 June 2010<br /> :The PC version, having all the bot names apparent on characters' model files, names him as Scattershot.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:50, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Aha, so I was right. Because his head, colors, and altmode are 100% Cybertron Defense [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:54, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Maybe its time for a cleanup ==<br /> <br /> The game is out, the preview stuff is now irrelevant, and solid information regarding plot, characters, continuity etc is available. Devoting 33% of the article to a promotional webgame that hasn't told us anything for six months is ... strange.<br /> :I've worked a bit on the article today. Did a synopsis for the 360 version, but I don't own the Wii or DS ones. Someone else will have to help with those. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:27, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I'd suggest moving the Gallery to the end, using a more TFwiki standard arrangement of images/references/voice actors/etc, removing the useless 'Transmission Recovery' section, and expanding the references section (Primus, conversion cog, etc). [[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::Perhaps the 'Transmission Recovery' section could be split into a new article? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:24, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Sure, but the game isn't playable anymore and the video you 'recover' is just one of the trailers that are freely available.[[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::::Okay, the sections are shuffled to be more logical and in line with other articles. What happened to the plot synopsis? [[User:Pnakotus|Pnakotus]] 00:54, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Advice on writing up the weapons.==<br /> I think the game's variety of weapons deserves a write-up, but I'm not sure if I should make individual pages for them or just put them all on one page. Information for the Null Ray, for example, was already sort-of mentioned on the page for the G1 [[Null ray]]. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I went ahead and made a page for all of the weapons. Definitely needs pics, though... --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 17:01, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I think they really need to have individual pages - the list page doesn't really fit in with how we do things. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Can we lock these WFC articles down? ==<br /> <br /> Or else I'm going to be spending the rest of my time on the wiki attempting to write WFC articles only to have to clean up after anon users (and relatively new members who don't know how to write in our style). Then I will give up because the articles are now too much work to get up to standards, video gamers who edited these articles have amazingly short attention spans and have left, and I'm the only one left who edits these things, as seen here last year: [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)]] *cries* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:29, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Which ones? just the main game articles? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:19, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Probably for the best. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:01, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Hey, I can still edit these things too! I need to...uh...actually finish the game first, though. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:38, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == pages ==<br /> <br /> When are we going to create more character pages(e.g.Jetfire,Air Raid)?Just wondering because for some reason instead of a page for Ironhide we have a page for scattershot who isn't released yet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 14:48,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :We just got an avalanche of materials to work through - AllSpark Almanac 2, Exodus, BotCon coverage - so it's going to take time to create other character pages when we get to it. &quot;Your patience will be rewarded.&quot; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:55, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DLC ==<br /> <br /> Shouldn't we put more info about the upcoming dlc somewhere on this page because the ''extra info'' I'm talking about has already been confirmed(e.g.maps,characters).Right now the only info about it is the characters.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 3:41,8 July 2010 (EDT)</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: </p> <hr /> <div>We don't remove stuff from talk pages unless it's spam or trolling. Please stop. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 15:33, 8 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> What are you talking about i'm not trolling??? [[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 1547,8 July 2010 (EDT)</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* DLC */</p> <hr /> <div>== G1 Characters ==<br /> <br /> Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> :There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?<br /> :Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say &quot;assumption&quot; isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)<br /> :::The TFW2005 interview states it's &quot;not connected to any particular generation&quot; and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)<br /> ::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::::::How about &quot;WFC&quot;? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> :::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using &quot;WFC&quot; to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)<br /> :::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview &quot;Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe.&quot; The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying &quot;Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not,&quot; or vice-versa &quot;anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?&quot; A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. &quot;Its prehistory is very slightly different&quot; will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than &quot;influenced by it&quot; I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> <br /> To me, this seems every bit as G1 as War Within - Yeah it branches out into it's own story but it's hard to deny that this isn't just as G1 as DW or IDW comics given the use of characters and story telling style. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}} 08:55, 28 June 2010<br /> <br /> == The New trailer ==<br /> <br /> should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> preety much.<br /> <br /> == Logos ==<br /> <br /> I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Starscream? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the &quot;Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault&quot; picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010<br /> Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]<br /> ::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::: I'd say more &quot;Classics-ized&quot; versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Fresh trailer guys ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage<br /> <br /> Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...<br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Third link in &quot;external links&quot; at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Character Sources?==<br /> I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> : For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Release date==<br /> Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)<br /> sweetness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Motormaster ==<br /> <br /> Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version: <br /> http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg<br /> <br /> Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game. <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html<br /> : I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Interview and more gameplay and footage ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story<br /> <br /> Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.<br /> <br /> -Aaron Archer<br /> <br /> -It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.<br /> <br /> -Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?<br /> <br /> -And much more...<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> <br /> == No PSP option... ==<br /> <br /> Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I think its a &quot;revised&quot;<br /> backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Voice actor thing ==<br /> <br /> I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending &quot;false&quot; information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.<br /> :So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with &quot;AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego&quot; and &quot;Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]&quot;. Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not &quot;We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia.&quot; --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with &quot;idiots&quot; over &quot;cover-up&quot;. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> According to IMDB, Soundwave is played by [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0071818/ Jeff Bennet]. Is this legit enough for this wiki? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:22, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Nuh-uh. IMDB is like Wiki where any user can edit the content, be it actual or junk. I rather wait till an official announcement from either Activision or High Moon themselves. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:54, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == New Characters' pages? ==<br /> VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?<br /> : We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)<br /> <br /> VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> <br /> :The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out &quot;Oops, they're part of G1&quot; and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> :I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jazz? ==<br /> <br /> The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave<br /> <br /> == Image Captions/Quotes ==<br /> <br /> So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?<br /> <br /> And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.<br /> <br /> ''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''<br /> <br /> Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved<br /> <br /> [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)<br /> :By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same &quot;gritty dark&quot; feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: &quot;Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little.&quot; Omega Supreme's picture: &quot;Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off.&quot; Megatron: &quot;I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered.&quot; Bumblebee: &quot;Little people first!&quot;<br /> ::For Starscream joining the Decepticons, &quot;What would you have your Arbiter do?&quot; [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 00:36, 06 June 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == New characters ==<br /> <br /> Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the &quot;embargo&quot; pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream_%28WFC%29|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[Special:Contributions/98.204.17.1|98.204.17.1]] 17:45, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Short Answer: No. Long Answer: Well, probably not, they're almost crtainly actual characters in the story version of the game from what we've seen, but no one will know 100% for sure until the game is out and we play through and see. But still, likely, no. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:00, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==<br /> <br /> [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&amp;postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::&quot;Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS...&quot; So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Picked my copy up and it is rather a bit more close to Exodus from the reviews elsewhere. While I don't have a copy of Exodus on hand yet, the charges against Megatron that includes bombing Six Lasers Over Cybertron and kidnapping Sentinel Prime is mentioned. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:20, 24 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Feel free to edit the article I set up at my [[User:Lonegamer78/Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|sandbox]] until we can figure out where to place the comic's article. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == For now... ==<br /> <br /> ...I'm deciding WfC is classified as a Primax-cluster universe. Now that the toys are sort of out, we really need to stick them ''somewhere''. And there's been nothing indicated that its universe isn't terribly G1y. This could change in the future as we come to understand its universe better, but we can move it then. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 2 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm beginning to wonder if the &quot;G1 continuity family&quot; is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't &quot;terribly G1y&quot; in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Division by Game? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> At some point soon are we going to need to give this page a major overhaul? From the sounds of it the Wii and DS versions are going to have signifigant enough character and play differnces that talking about it all as &quot;one single game&quot; would likely become counterproductive. Don't have the time right now to check but isn't that how we've handled multiplatform games in the past? A 360/PS3 section, a Wii section and a DS section? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:15, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I know there are two seperate articles for the PS1 and N64 versions of the Beast Wars Transmetal fighting games. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:54, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::The games actually have different names, as well. The Wii version is called Transformers: Cybertron Adventures. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 23:55, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Usually there's seperate pages for different versions of the games, there'll probably be one for this game too. Might be better to wait until they're out though. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:25, 11 June 2010 (GMT)<br /> <br /> == Matt Tieger Says... ==<br /> I am, right now, listening to a Kotaku podcast where they are interviewing Matt Tieger, and he says War for Cybertron is &quot;like a prequel to G1.&quot; http://ca.kotaku.com/5559654/its-a-prime-time-to-talk-transformers<br /> So, is this confirmation of being G1, or do we still wait until the game or official fiction is released? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:01, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I think the keywords is that he used &quot;like a&quot; on describing WfC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:07, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Another note from the podcast: Matt Tieger says that Corey Burton is NOT the voice of Shockwave, but rather they got a sound-alike. Should this be worth mentioning? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Matt Tieger has also said that WFC is a direct prequel to the G1 cartoon, which is impossible on several levels given what we know. I think a lot of what he says is to get people to buy the game (SHOCK SHOCK I KNOW) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DS Version ==<br /> <br /> Source for all of these &quot;DS-only&quot; guys? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:34, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : People who've played the game. I myself have seen Kup and Dirge fairly early on in the Toys R Us demo version. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:38, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: After going through the game, Kup's actually not playable, never featured beyond his portrait appearing in the tutorial. Hot Rod, on the other hand, is in, though he's named Hot Shot. On the decepticon side, there's also Ramjet, Motormaster and Dragstrip--[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 05:46, 23 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Box Art==<br /> <br /> I have a picture of the Box Art, should I upload it, and if there's a version already here, shouldn't we use it as the Main Picture? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 13:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==<br /> <br /> == I know some missons! ==<br /> <br /> I resantly looked at campaign and misson desighn and it showed the names of some missons lets add that.<br /> :Where did you look at them? Were they officially released by Hasbro/the programming company? If not, then they are not eligible for inclusion on this wiki. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:54, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> yes,<br /> confirmed misson names are <br /> defend iacon,<br /> death of hope,<br /> the final guardian,<br /> fuel of war,<br /> iacon destroyed,<br /> false propaganda,<br /> decagon plaza<br /> these are a few confirmed missons<br /> :Where were they released? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:57, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Confirmed by high moon.<br /> :Where? When? Source, please? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> www.transformersgame.com go to media videos then behind the sceans campagn and misson desighn then when hes choosing a level he scrolls throgh these levels.<br /> <br /> ==James Remar==<br /> So, was this actually confirmed? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:57, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : I also would like to know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I as well, but I like Remar so I filled out his article anyway. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:21, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Given the fact you jumped all over me for that Ausgamers thing, I would have thought this article's creation would have caused some discussion. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:52, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Yeah well I figured with the article locked from anons... the WfC page would've been spared from unsourced statements. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:56, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Someone also added the WfC Starscream thing back onto [[Doug Parker]]'s article. Has THAT been confirmed? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 21:39, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::You know... seeing as how a few folks on the Allspark have snagged copies early, why not just beg them in the thread or PM or something if they can upload screenies/scans (whichever is applicable) of the credits for us? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:40, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::Never mind, now that I'm caught up over there, I see [[User:abates|abates]] already did that. XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:44, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-war-cybertron-discussion/309191-transformers-war-cybertron-cast-spoiler.html Spotted this over on TFW2005], FWIW. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Megatron's voiced by [[Fred Tatasciore]], apparently. (BRB, making new actor pages. :P) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 22:22, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::I will totally fist-pump if he is, because I freakin' called that in ''January''. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 03:49, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Profiles? ==<br /> <br /> Should we bother linking to all of the available official website character profiles, or are we just going to remove the existing links once the game comes out? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:07, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : They count as G1 canon so we should keep them linked to their G1 counterparts.--[[User:Primetime]] 12:06, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: That's not what Jeysie is talking about. She's talking about the links to the official WFC website. &quot;official website character profiles.&quot; Me, uh, I don't really have an opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: Yeah, Walky got it in one.<br /> ::: I guess my confusion was... I wasn't sure if the links were intended as information (in which case, might as well keep 'em), or just as sources for the character being in the game (in which case, once we get an official credits list from the game itself, said sources aren't really needed).<br /> ::: Not that I'm fussed either way... I just was itching to be consistent, and wasn't sure if that involved linking or deleting. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:14, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: For me, more info is almost always better. Link!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Name?==<br /> <br /> Is there a name for the guy I'm referring to as &quot;Giant Autobot tank thing that you fight before Zeta Prime&quot;? He has lines and stuff, but he didn't really look like anybody I recognized. (I refuse to call him by the name &quot;that guy who kicked my ass about a dozen times until I got lucky.&quot;) {{unsigned|Skyshock Thunderblast}} 09:22, 25 June 2010<br /> :I'm pretty sure he's just a generic. You fight a few more during the Decepticon campaign, and some more during the Autobot campaign. I know they call the Decepticon ones &quot;Destroyers,&quot; but I'm not sure what the Autobot ones are called. The loading-screen hints refer to them as, simply, Tanks. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I had assumed &quot;Destroyer&quot; was for both Autobots and Decepticons with that body-type. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:06, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I assumed that as well, but I was just going with what I knew for certain. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:27, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: I would SWEAR I heard one of the other Autobots refer to him by name. Well, Matt Tieger from Full Moon is at BC this year. Ask him? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:56, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::: Tanks for Autobots, Destroyers for Decepticons, according to the subtitles.<br /> == DS Profile Pictures ==<br /> <br /> Any use in screenshots for the characters as they appear in the DS Game? Will also be able to get console versions soon too.<br /> --[[User:Scatterlung|Scatterlung]] 14:22, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Who's the blue Autobot Tank? ==<br /> In the concept art (autobot recruits section, i believe) and the credits, there is a blue Autobot tank that clearly is not a blue version of Warpath, and looks like a completely different design. Is this a reference to a real Transformers character? ''(i don't know everything there is to know about transformers, so to those who do, please have mercy...)'' [[Special:Contributions/24.145.176.54|24.145.176.54]] 14:08, 26 June 2010 (EDT)unregistered contributor (has accounts on other wikis, but doesn't work on this one)<br /> :I'd say Twin Twist; while it's obviously not a jumpstarter, he's the closest thing to a blue and white Autobot tank I could find. The real mystery is why the Constructicon truck and this guy aren't in the game, since those faction/classes only have one mesh right now.<br /> ::I strongly doubt it's Twin Twist. Can you give us any more details about the character? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:59, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I think it's just the model for the generic Autobot tank soldiers you fight in the game. It may not actually be that color of blue (some of the character models aren't the final colors). --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::It certainly isn't, because there aren't any. Is there any real reason it can't be Twin Twist? I can post a pic, but he doesn't look much like anyone in particular (much as the purple/green constructicon doesn't either). Tanks (or heavy enough to be tanks) are rare enough on the Autobot side to narrow it down pretty quickly: the only guys that jump out at me are Twin Twist or animated Sentinel Prime. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pnakotus/tf/IMG_0550.jpg. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.127.90|118.208.127.90]]<br /> :I have the 360 game the guy is in the credits sinama. I think he may be a sneek peak at ultar magnus for this game but thats just my gess. {{unsigned|74.103.61.137}} 06:12, 28 June 2010<br /> :The PC version, having all the bot names apparent on characters' model files, names him as Scattershot.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:50, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Aha, so I was right. Because his head, colors, and altmode are 100% Cybertron Defense [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:54, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Maybe its time for a cleanup ==<br /> <br /> The game is out, the preview stuff is now irrelevant, and solid information regarding plot, characters, continuity etc is available. Devoting 33% of the article to a promotional webgame that hasn't told us anything for six months is ... strange.<br /> :I've worked a bit on the article today. Did a synopsis for the 360 version, but I don't own the Wii or DS ones. Someone else will have to help with those. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:27, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I'd suggest moving the Gallery to the end, using a more TFwiki standard arrangement of images/references/voice actors/etc, removing the useless 'Transmission Recovery' section, and expanding the references section (Primus, conversion cog, etc). [[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::Perhaps the 'Transmission Recovery' section could be split into a new article? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:24, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Sure, but the game isn't playable anymore and the video you 'recover' is just one of the trailers that are freely available.[[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::::Okay, the sections are shuffled to be more logical and in line with other articles. What happened to the plot synopsis? [[User:Pnakotus|Pnakotus]] 00:54, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Advice on writing up the weapons.==<br /> I think the game's variety of weapons deserves a write-up, but I'm not sure if I should make individual pages for them or just put them all on one page. Information for the Null Ray, for example, was already sort-of mentioned on the page for the G1 [[Null ray]]. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I went ahead and made a page for all of the weapons. Definitely needs pics, though... --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 17:01, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I think they really need to have individual pages - the list page doesn't really fit in with how we do things. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Can we lock these WFC articles down? ==<br /> <br /> Or else I'm going to be spending the rest of my time on the wiki attempting to write WFC articles only to have to clean up after anon users (and relatively new members who don't know how to write in our style). Then I will give up because the articles are now too much work to get up to standards, video gamers who edited these articles have amazingly short attention spans and have left, and I'm the only one left who edits these things, as seen here last year: [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)]] *cries* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:29, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Which ones? just the main game articles? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:19, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Probably for the best. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:01, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Hey, I can still edit these things too! I need to...uh...actually finish the game first, though. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:38, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == G1? ==<br /> <br /> This game SHOULD NOT be connected to the prime series.WHICH IS WHY HASBRO PUT THIS AS CANNON TO THE G1 series.you can not tell me that the storline for the game is the same as the exodus comic book.-- [[user:Primetime]] july 6,2010 (EDT)<br /> :We might take you more seriously if you're not screaming at us and misspelling &quot;canon&quot;. Just a suggestion. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:39, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, Exodus isn't a comic book, and it's marketed as a tie-in novel to the game. So for all intents and purposes it is the novelization of the game, even if it's not exactly the same.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :They did? When? Where? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:49, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> 1:I'm not yelling,I just typed it that way.2:It's a tie-in comic?3:This wiki hardly listens to other users to the point where i should be yelling.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:57,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Exodus mentions the video game in its trade dress in several places. Also, as I said, it's not even a comic.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:16, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> hmmmmm, so which one is the g1 prequel because high moon sayed their storyline was a g1 prequel(read interviews).And they came out first and hasbro is just trying to jazz things up with things like Exodus and the prime cartoon(which is sayed to be a movie prequel but I don't know).--[[Primetime|Primetime]] 01:36,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Exodus was released on the same day as War for Cybertron. Because, again, it's a marketing tie-in.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:40, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> Thats great! now like I sayed before is it G1 liked the interviews sayed or not like some of you keep saying(I mean the game).--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:26 7, July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :It's the backstory for the new continuity that the Prime cartoon on the Hub will share. This was confirmed at BotCon. The new continuity borrows elements from several past ones, including a movie-style AllSpark, a series of space bridges leading to Cybertronian colonies a la Galaxy Force/Cybertron, the Elite Guard from Animated, the Wreckers, and a great many other nods to previous work. It is not exclusively G1 that is referenced.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:37, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::NO IT IS NOT G1. STOP INTERPRETING STUFF HIGH MOON STUDIOS SAID SO THE GAME WOULD SELL BETTER AS WORD OF GOD. <br /> ::I had to get that out of my system. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 02:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :If it's G1, why is there an AllSpark cube? Why is Bumblebee mute? And what's Gigantion doing there? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 09:46, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, Thy, that's all stuff from the Exodus novel, not WFC proper. They're tied together, but the original poster was only speaking about the game. (Annoyingly enough, Bumblebee loses his voice in the novel before the events of the game (loosely) take place, making Bumblebee's talking kind of, you know, another fun discrepancy.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:48, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> SOOO doesn't that mean the Exodus Novel and the game are not related due to the MAJOR differences in the storyline(because honestly the game seems REALLY like its a G1 prequel).And if you disagree explain why bumblebee can suddenly talk again and he is just meeting optimus and ratchet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:00,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> : If it fits with G1 how come the designs are different, Dinobots, Combaticons and Aerialbots are present, the origin of Optimus is different, the origin of the Matrix is different, the way they leave the planet is different etc. etc. etc. etc.? {{unsigned|201.88.66.127|12:16, 7 July 2010}}<br /> ::That's been done all the time. The cartoon characters had different Cybertronian forms than the Dreamwave characters, but they're both G1. Plus, the Dinobots, Stunticons et al were in the War Within. Still, this game isn't G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 12:27, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Those wouldn't keep it out of G1, but DO prevent it from being the backstory to the G1 toon. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:36, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> : Inconsistencies in story do not magically make Exodus anything other than a marketing tie-in to the game. They are intended to go together. If you likewise choose to ignore the fact that Hasbro have said that this will continue on into Prime and beyond, I don't know what more we can get out of this discussion.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 12:26, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> Okay High moon is STILL saying their game is a prequel to G1 even after they released the game.We SHOULD make new WFC pages,or link them back to G1.Forget hasbro right now I'm talking about High moon and their intentions for their game.No prime or Exodus.---[[Primetime|Primetime]] 1:14, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :WFC is part of the backstory for TF:Prime. It seems like it can apply to G1 too because TF:Prime is deliberately mirroring a lot of G1, especially in past setup. But they're not the same and we will not treat them the same. Unless High Moon is also writing the next cartoon, that's that. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 13:25, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::&quot;Forget Hasbro&quot;? You do realize that Hasbro has the final say on things, not High Moon. High Moon's statements are simply marketing, not fiction. Of course, why we are bothering to try to explain this to someone whose grasp of English does not include the simple word &quot;said&quot; is beyond me. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:36, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::This is either a troll or someone who does not understand English. (Who, BTW, happens to share his username with a notorious Wikipedia troll/vandal) Either way this is getting ridiculous. High Moon DOES NOT have the final say on this stuff, their statement about WFC being G1 WAS intended to get more people to buy the game, YOU ARE AN ANNOYING LITTLE MAN, Primetime. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:54, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> (sighs)Okay look,lets drop this WHOLE topic.I might have misspelled on ACCIDENT and generally I was asking a question that you guys kept dodging.I'm not a troll(never heard of the ''notorious troll on wikia before that you're talking about'')so lets leave it alone and keep igonoring my question and go on with our lives.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:12, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :We've answered your question. Repeatedly. This IS NOT a prequel to the G1 toon, because Hasbro says it isn't. The hyperbole and metaphor used by High Moon as marketing strategy does not enter into things. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:24, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> OOOKKKKAAAYYY I understand, now stop Talking about it.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 14:35, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == pages ==<br /> <br /> When are we going to create more character pages(e.g.Jetfire,Air Raid)?Just wondering because for some reason instead of a page for Ironhide we have a page for scattershot who isn't released yet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 14:48,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :We just got an avalanche of materials to work through - AllSpark Almanac 2, Exodus, BotCon coverage - so it's going to take time to create other character pages when we get to it. &quot;Your patience will be rewarded.&quot; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:55, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DLC ==<br /> <br /> Shouldn't we put more info about the upcoming dlc somewhere on this page because the ''extra info'' I'm talking about has already been confirmed(e.g.maps,characters).Right now the only info about it is the characters.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 3:41,8 July 2010 (EDT)</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* DLC */</p> <hr /> <div>== G1 Characters ==<br /> <br /> Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> :There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?<br /> :Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say &quot;assumption&quot; isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)<br /> :::The TFW2005 interview states it's &quot;not connected to any particular generation&quot; and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)<br /> ::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::::::How about &quot;WFC&quot;? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> :::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using &quot;WFC&quot; to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)<br /> :::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview &quot;Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe.&quot; The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying &quot;Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not,&quot; or vice-versa &quot;anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?&quot; A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. &quot;Its prehistory is very slightly different&quot; will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than &quot;influenced by it&quot; I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> <br /> To me, this seems every bit as G1 as War Within - Yeah it branches out into it's own story but it's hard to deny that this isn't just as G1 as DW or IDW comics given the use of characters and story telling style. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}} 08:55, 28 June 2010<br /> <br /> == The New trailer ==<br /> <br /> should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> preety much.<br /> <br /> == Logos ==<br /> <br /> I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Starscream? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the &quot;Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault&quot; picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010<br /> Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]<br /> ::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::: I'd say more &quot;Classics-ized&quot; versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Fresh trailer guys ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage<br /> <br /> Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...<br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Third link in &quot;external links&quot; at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Character Sources?==<br /> I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> : For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Release date==<br /> Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)<br /> sweetness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Motormaster ==<br /> <br /> Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version: <br /> http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg<br /> <br /> Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game. <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html<br /> : I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Interview and more gameplay and footage ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story<br /> <br /> Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.<br /> <br /> -Aaron Archer<br /> <br /> -It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.<br /> <br /> -Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?<br /> <br /> -And much more...<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> <br /> == No PSP option... ==<br /> <br /> Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I think its a &quot;revised&quot;<br /> backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Voice actor thing ==<br /> <br /> I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending &quot;false&quot; information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.<br /> :So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with &quot;AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego&quot; and &quot;Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]&quot;. Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not &quot;We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia.&quot; --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with &quot;idiots&quot; over &quot;cover-up&quot;. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> According to IMDB, Soundwave is played by [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0071818/ Jeff Bennet]. Is this legit enough for this wiki? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:22, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Nuh-uh. IMDB is like Wiki where any user can edit the content, be it actual or junk. I rather wait till an official announcement from either Activision or High Moon themselves. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:54, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == New Characters' pages? ==<br /> VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?<br /> : We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)<br /> <br /> VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> <br /> :The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out &quot;Oops, they're part of G1&quot; and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> :I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jazz? ==<br /> <br /> The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave<br /> <br /> == Image Captions/Quotes ==<br /> <br /> So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?<br /> <br /> And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.<br /> <br /> ''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''<br /> <br /> Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved<br /> <br /> [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)<br /> :By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same &quot;gritty dark&quot; feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: &quot;Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little.&quot; Omega Supreme's picture: &quot;Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off.&quot; Megatron: &quot;I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered.&quot; Bumblebee: &quot;Little people first!&quot;<br /> ::For Starscream joining the Decepticons, &quot;What would you have your Arbiter do?&quot; [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 00:36, 06 June 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == New characters ==<br /> <br /> Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the &quot;embargo&quot; pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream_%28WFC%29|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[Special:Contributions/98.204.17.1|98.204.17.1]] 17:45, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Short Answer: No. Long Answer: Well, probably not, they're almost crtainly actual characters in the story version of the game from what we've seen, but no one will know 100% for sure until the game is out and we play through and see. But still, likely, no. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:00, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==<br /> <br /> [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&amp;postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::&quot;Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS...&quot; So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Picked my copy up and it is rather a bit more close to Exodus from the reviews elsewhere. While I don't have a copy of Exodus on hand yet, the charges against Megatron that includes bombing Six Lasers Over Cybertron and kidnapping Sentinel Prime is mentioned. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:20, 24 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Feel free to edit the article I set up at my [[User:Lonegamer78/Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|sandbox]] until we can figure out where to place the comic's article. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == For now... ==<br /> <br /> ...I'm deciding WfC is classified as a Primax-cluster universe. Now that the toys are sort of out, we really need to stick them ''somewhere''. And there's been nothing indicated that its universe isn't terribly G1y. This could change in the future as we come to understand its universe better, but we can move it then. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 2 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm beginning to wonder if the &quot;G1 continuity family&quot; is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't &quot;terribly G1y&quot; in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Division by Game? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> At some point soon are we going to need to give this page a major overhaul? From the sounds of it the Wii and DS versions are going to have signifigant enough character and play differnces that talking about it all as &quot;one single game&quot; would likely become counterproductive. Don't have the time right now to check but isn't that how we've handled multiplatform games in the past? A 360/PS3 section, a Wii section and a DS section? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:15, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I know there are two seperate articles for the PS1 and N64 versions of the Beast Wars Transmetal fighting games. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:54, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::The games actually have different names, as well. The Wii version is called Transformers: Cybertron Adventures. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 23:55, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Usually there's seperate pages for different versions of the games, there'll probably be one for this game too. Might be better to wait until they're out though. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:25, 11 June 2010 (GMT)<br /> <br /> == Matt Tieger Says... ==<br /> I am, right now, listening to a Kotaku podcast where they are interviewing Matt Tieger, and he says War for Cybertron is &quot;like a prequel to G1.&quot; http://ca.kotaku.com/5559654/its-a-prime-time-to-talk-transformers<br /> So, is this confirmation of being G1, or do we still wait until the game or official fiction is released? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:01, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I think the keywords is that he used &quot;like a&quot; on describing WfC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:07, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Another note from the podcast: Matt Tieger says that Corey Burton is NOT the voice of Shockwave, but rather they got a sound-alike. Should this be worth mentioning? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Matt Tieger has also said that WFC is a direct prequel to the G1 cartoon, which is impossible on several levels given what we know. I think a lot of what he says is to get people to buy the game (SHOCK SHOCK I KNOW) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DS Version ==<br /> <br /> Source for all of these &quot;DS-only&quot; guys? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:34, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : People who've played the game. I myself have seen Kup and Dirge fairly early on in the Toys R Us demo version. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:38, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: After going through the game, Kup's actually not playable, never featured beyond his portrait appearing in the tutorial. Hot Rod, on the other hand, is in, though he's named Hot Shot. On the decepticon side, there's also Ramjet, Motormaster and Dragstrip--[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 05:46, 23 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Box Art==<br /> <br /> I have a picture of the Box Art, should I upload it, and if there's a version already here, shouldn't we use it as the Main Picture? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 13:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==<br /> <br /> == I know some missons! ==<br /> <br /> I resantly looked at campaign and misson desighn and it showed the names of some missons lets add that.<br /> :Where did you look at them? Were they officially released by Hasbro/the programming company? If not, then they are not eligible for inclusion on this wiki. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:54, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> yes,<br /> confirmed misson names are <br /> defend iacon,<br /> death of hope,<br /> the final guardian,<br /> fuel of war,<br /> iacon destroyed,<br /> false propaganda,<br /> decagon plaza<br /> these are a few confirmed missons<br /> :Where were they released? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:57, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Confirmed by high moon.<br /> :Where? When? Source, please? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> www.transformersgame.com go to media videos then behind the sceans campagn and misson desighn then when hes choosing a level he scrolls throgh these levels.<br /> <br /> ==James Remar==<br /> So, was this actually confirmed? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:57, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : I also would like to know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I as well, but I like Remar so I filled out his article anyway. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:21, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Given the fact you jumped all over me for that Ausgamers thing, I would have thought this article's creation would have caused some discussion. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:52, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Yeah well I figured with the article locked from anons... the WfC page would've been spared from unsourced statements. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:56, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Someone also added the WfC Starscream thing back onto [[Doug Parker]]'s article. Has THAT been confirmed? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 21:39, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::You know... seeing as how a few folks on the Allspark have snagged copies early, why not just beg them in the thread or PM or something if they can upload screenies/scans (whichever is applicable) of the credits for us? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:40, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::Never mind, now that I'm caught up over there, I see [[User:abates|abates]] already did that. XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:44, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-war-cybertron-discussion/309191-transformers-war-cybertron-cast-spoiler.html Spotted this over on TFW2005], FWIW. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Megatron's voiced by [[Fred Tatasciore]], apparently. (BRB, making new actor pages. :P) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 22:22, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::I will totally fist-pump if he is, because I freakin' called that in ''January''. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 03:49, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Profiles? ==<br /> <br /> Should we bother linking to all of the available official website character profiles, or are we just going to remove the existing links once the game comes out? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:07, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : They count as G1 canon so we should keep them linked to their G1 counterparts.--[[User:Primetime]] 12:06, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: That's not what Jeysie is talking about. She's talking about the links to the official WFC website. &quot;official website character profiles.&quot; Me, uh, I don't really have an opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: Yeah, Walky got it in one.<br /> ::: I guess my confusion was... I wasn't sure if the links were intended as information (in which case, might as well keep 'em), or just as sources for the character being in the game (in which case, once we get an official credits list from the game itself, said sources aren't really needed).<br /> ::: Not that I'm fussed either way... I just was itching to be consistent, and wasn't sure if that involved linking or deleting. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:14, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: For me, more info is almost always better. Link!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Name?==<br /> <br /> Is there a name for the guy I'm referring to as &quot;Giant Autobot tank thing that you fight before Zeta Prime&quot;? He has lines and stuff, but he didn't really look like anybody I recognized. (I refuse to call him by the name &quot;that guy who kicked my ass about a dozen times until I got lucky.&quot;) {{unsigned|Skyshock Thunderblast}} 09:22, 25 June 2010<br /> :I'm pretty sure he's just a generic. You fight a few more during the Decepticon campaign, and some more during the Autobot campaign. I know they call the Decepticon ones &quot;Destroyers,&quot; but I'm not sure what the Autobot ones are called. The loading-screen hints refer to them as, simply, Tanks. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I had assumed &quot;Destroyer&quot; was for both Autobots and Decepticons with that body-type. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:06, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I assumed that as well, but I was just going with what I knew for certain. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:27, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: I would SWEAR I heard one of the other Autobots refer to him by name. Well, Matt Tieger from Full Moon is at BC this year. Ask him? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:56, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::: Tanks for Autobots, Destroyers for Decepticons, according to the subtitles.<br /> == DS Profile Pictures ==<br /> <br /> Any use in screenshots for the characters as they appear in the DS Game? Will also be able to get console versions soon too.<br /> --[[User:Scatterlung|Scatterlung]] 14:22, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Who's the blue Autobot Tank? ==<br /> In the concept art (autobot recruits section, i believe) and the credits, there is a blue Autobot tank that clearly is not a blue version of Warpath, and looks like a completely different design. Is this a reference to a real Transformers character? ''(i don't know everything there is to know about transformers, so to those who do, please have mercy...)'' [[Special:Contributions/24.145.176.54|24.145.176.54]] 14:08, 26 June 2010 (EDT)unregistered contributor (has accounts on other wikis, but doesn't work on this one)<br /> :I'd say Twin Twist; while it's obviously not a jumpstarter, he's the closest thing to a blue and white Autobot tank I could find. The real mystery is why the Constructicon truck and this guy aren't in the game, since those faction/classes only have one mesh right now.<br /> ::I strongly doubt it's Twin Twist. Can you give us any more details about the character? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:59, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I think it's just the model for the generic Autobot tank soldiers you fight in the game. It may not actually be that color of blue (some of the character models aren't the final colors). --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::It certainly isn't, because there aren't any. Is there any real reason it can't be Twin Twist? I can post a pic, but he doesn't look much like anyone in particular (much as the purple/green constructicon doesn't either). Tanks (or heavy enough to be tanks) are rare enough on the Autobot side to narrow it down pretty quickly: the only guys that jump out at me are Twin Twist or animated Sentinel Prime. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pnakotus/tf/IMG_0550.jpg. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.127.90|118.208.127.90]]<br /> :I have the 360 game the guy is in the credits sinama. I think he may be a sneek peak at ultar magnus for this game but thats just my gess. {{unsigned|74.103.61.137}} 06:12, 28 June 2010<br /> :The PC version, having all the bot names apparent on characters' model files, names him as Scattershot.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:50, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Aha, so I was right. Because his head, colors, and altmode are 100% Cybertron Defense [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:54, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Maybe its time for a cleanup ==<br /> <br /> The game is out, the preview stuff is now irrelevant, and solid information regarding plot, characters, continuity etc is available. Devoting 33% of the article to a promotional webgame that hasn't told us anything for six months is ... strange.<br /> :I've worked a bit on the article today. Did a synopsis for the 360 version, but I don't own the Wii or DS ones. Someone else will have to help with those. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:27, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I'd suggest moving the Gallery to the end, using a more TFwiki standard arrangement of images/references/voice actors/etc, removing the useless 'Transmission Recovery' section, and expanding the references section (Primus, conversion cog, etc). [[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::Perhaps the 'Transmission Recovery' section could be split into a new article? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:24, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Sure, but the game isn't playable anymore and the video you 'recover' is just one of the trailers that are freely available.[[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::::Okay, the sections are shuffled to be more logical and in line with other articles. What happened to the plot synopsis? [[User:Pnakotus|Pnakotus]] 00:54, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Advice on writing up the weapons.==<br /> I think the game's variety of weapons deserves a write-up, but I'm not sure if I should make individual pages for them or just put them all on one page. Information for the Null Ray, for example, was already sort-of mentioned on the page for the G1 [[Null ray]]. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I went ahead and made a page for all of the weapons. Definitely needs pics, though... --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 17:01, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I think they really need to have individual pages - the list page doesn't really fit in with how we do things. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Can we lock these WFC articles down? ==<br /> <br /> Or else I'm going to be spending the rest of my time on the wiki attempting to write WFC articles only to have to clean up after anon users (and relatively new members who don't know how to write in our style). Then I will give up because the articles are now too much work to get up to standards, video gamers who edited these articles have amazingly short attention spans and have left, and I'm the only one left who edits these things, as seen here last year: [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)]] *cries* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:29, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Which ones? just the main game articles? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:19, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Probably for the best. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:01, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Hey, I can still edit these things too! I need to...uh...actually finish the game first, though. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:38, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == G1? ==<br /> <br /> This game SHOULD NOT be connected to the prime series.WHICH IS WHY HASBRO PUT THIS AS CANNON TO THE G1 series.you can not tell me that the storline for the game is the same as the exodus comic book.-- [[user:Primetime]] july 6,2010 (EDT)<br /> :We might take you more seriously if you're not screaming at us and misspelling &quot;canon&quot;. Just a suggestion. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:39, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, Exodus isn't a comic book, and it's marketed as a tie-in novel to the game. So for all intents and purposes it is the novelization of the game, even if it's not exactly the same.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :They did? When? Where? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:49, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> 1:I'm not yelling,I just typed it that way.2:It's a tie-in comic?3:This wiki hardly listens to other users to the point where i should be yelling.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:57,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Exodus mentions the video game in its trade dress in several places. Also, as I said, it's not even a comic.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:16, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> hmmmmm, so which one is the g1 prequel because high moon sayed their storyline was a g1 prequel(read interviews).And they came out first and hasbro is just trying to jazz things up with things like Exodus and the prime cartoon(which is sayed to be a movie prequel but I don't know).--[[Primetime|Primetime]] 01:36,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Exodus was released on the same day as War for Cybertron. Because, again, it's a marketing tie-in.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:40, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> Thats great! now like I sayed before is it G1 liked the interviews sayed or not like some of you keep saying(I mean the game).--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:26 7, July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :It's the backstory for the new continuity that the Prime cartoon on the Hub will share. This was confirmed at BotCon. The new continuity borrows elements from several past ones, including a movie-style AllSpark, a series of space bridges leading to Cybertronian colonies a la Galaxy Force/Cybertron, the Elite Guard from Animated, the Wreckers, and a great many other nods to previous work. It is not exclusively G1 that is referenced.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:37, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::NO IT IS NOT G1. STOP INTERPRETING STUFF HIGH MOON STUDIOS SAID SO THE GAME WOULD SELL BETTER AS WORD OF GOD. <br /> ::I had to get that out of my system. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 02:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :If it's G1, why is there an AllSpark cube? Why is Bumblebee mute? And what's Gigantion doing there? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 09:46, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, Thy, that's all stuff from the Exodus novel, not WFC proper. They're tied together, but the original poster was only speaking about the game. (Annoyingly enough, Bumblebee loses his voice in the novel before the events of the game (loosely) take place, making Bumblebee's talking kind of, you know, another fun discrepancy.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:48, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> SOOO doesn't that mean the Exodus Novel and the game are not related due to the MAJOR differences in the storyline(because honestly the game seems REALLY like its a G1 prequel).And if you disagree explain why bumblebee can suddenly talk again and he is just meeting optimus and ratchet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:00,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> : If it fits with G1 how come the designs are different, Dinobots, Combaticons and Aerialbots are present, the origin of Optimus is different, the origin of the Matrix is different, the way they leave the planet is different etc. etc. etc. etc.? {{unsigned|201.88.66.127|12:16, 7 July 2010}}<br /> ::That's been done all the time. The cartoon characters had different Cybertronian forms than the Dreamwave characters, but they're both G1. Plus, the Dinobots, Stunticons et al were in the War Within. Still, this game isn't G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 12:27, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Those wouldn't keep it out of G1, but DO prevent it from being the backstory to the G1 toon. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:36, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> : Inconsistencies in story do not magically make Exodus anything other than a marketing tie-in to the game. They are intended to go together. If you likewise choose to ignore the fact that Hasbro have said that this will continue on into Prime and beyond, I don't know what more we can get out of this discussion.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 12:26, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> Okay High moon is STILL saying their game is a prequel to G1 even after they released the game.We SHOULD make new WFC pages,or link them back to G1.Forget hasbro right now I'm talking about High moon and their intentions for their game.No prime or Exodus.---[[Primetime|Primetime]] 1:14, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :WFC is part of the backstory for TF:Prime. It seems like it can apply to G1 too because TF:Prime is deliberately mirroring a lot of G1, especially in past setup. But they're not the same and we will not treat them the same. Unless High Moon is also writing the next cartoon, that's that. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 13:25, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::&quot;Forget Hasbro&quot;? You do realize that Hasbro has the final say on things, not High Moon. High Moon's statements are simply marketing, not fiction. Of course, why we are bothering to try to explain this to someone whose grasp of English does not include the simple word &quot;said&quot; is beyond me. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:36, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::This is either a troll or someone who does not understand English. (Who, BTW, happens to share his username with a notorious Wikipedia troll/vandal) Either way this is getting ridiculous. High Moon DOES NOT have the final say on this stuff, their statement about WFC being G1 WAS intended to get more people to buy the game, YOU ARE AN ANNOYING LITTLE MAN, Primetime. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:54, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> (sighs)Okay look,lets drop this WHOLE topic.I might have misspelled on ACCIDENT and generally I was asking a question that you guys kept dodging.I'm not a troll(never heard of the ''notorious troll on wikia before that you're talking about'')so lets leave it alone and keep igonoring my question and go on with our lives.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:12, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :We've answered your question. Repeatedly. This IS NOT a prequel to the G1 toon, because Hasbro says it isn't. The hyperbole and metaphor used by High Moon as marketing strategy does not enter into things. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:24, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> OOOKKKKAAAYYY I understand, now stop Talking about it.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 14:35, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == pages ==<br /> <br /> When are we going to create more character pages(e.g.Jetfire,Air Raid)?Just wondering because for some reason instead of a page for Ironhide we have a page for scattershot who isn't released yet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 14:48,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :We just got an avalanche of materials to work through - AllSpark Almanac 2, Exodus, BotCon coverage - so it's going to take time to create other character pages when we get to it. &quot;Your patience will be rewarded.&quot; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:55, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DLC ==<br /> <br /> Shouldn't we put more info about the upcoming dlc somewhere on this page because the ''extra info''I'm talking about has already been confirmed(e.g.maps,characters).Right now the only info about it is the characters.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 3:41,8 July 2010 (EDT)</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* DLC */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>== G1 Characters ==<br /> <br /> Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> :There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?<br /> :Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say &quot;assumption&quot; isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)<br /> :::The TFW2005 interview states it's &quot;not connected to any particular generation&quot; and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)<br /> ::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::::::How about &quot;WFC&quot;? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> :::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using &quot;WFC&quot; to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)<br /> :::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview &quot;Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe.&quot; The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying &quot;Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not,&quot; or vice-versa &quot;anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?&quot; A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. &quot;Its prehistory is very slightly different&quot; will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than &quot;influenced by it&quot; I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> <br /> To me, this seems every bit as G1 as War Within - Yeah it branches out into it's own story but it's hard to deny that this isn't just as G1 as DW or IDW comics given the use of characters and story telling style. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}} 08:55, 28 June 2010<br /> <br /> == The New trailer ==<br /> <br /> should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> preety much.<br /> <br /> == Logos ==<br /> <br /> I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Starscream? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the &quot;Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault&quot; picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010<br /> Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]<br /> ::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::: I'd say more &quot;Classics-ized&quot; versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Fresh trailer guys ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage<br /> <br /> Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...<br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Third link in &quot;external links&quot; at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Character Sources?==<br /> I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> : For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Release date==<br /> Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)<br /> sweetness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Motormaster ==<br /> <br /> Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version: <br /> http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg<br /> <br /> Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game. <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html<br /> : I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Interview and more gameplay and footage ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story<br /> <br /> Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.<br /> <br /> -Aaron Archer<br /> <br /> -It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.<br /> <br /> -Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?<br /> <br /> -And much more...<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> <br /> == No PSP option... ==<br /> <br /> Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I think its a &quot;revised&quot;<br /> backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Voice actor thing ==<br /> <br /> I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending &quot;false&quot; information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.<br /> :So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with &quot;AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego&quot; and &quot;Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]&quot;. Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not &quot;We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia.&quot; --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with &quot;idiots&quot; over &quot;cover-up&quot;. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> According to IMDB, Soundwave is played by [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0071818/ Jeff Bennet]. Is this legit enough for this wiki? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:22, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Nuh-uh. IMDB is like Wiki where any user can edit the content, be it actual or junk. I rather wait till an official announcement from either Activision or High Moon themselves. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:54, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == New Characters' pages? ==<br /> VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?<br /> : We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)<br /> <br /> VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> <br /> :The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out &quot;Oops, they're part of G1&quot; and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> :I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jazz? ==<br /> <br /> The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave<br /> <br /> == Image Captions/Quotes ==<br /> <br /> So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?<br /> <br /> And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.<br /> <br /> ''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''<br /> <br /> Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved<br /> <br /> [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)<br /> :By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same &quot;gritty dark&quot; feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: &quot;Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little.&quot; Omega Supreme's picture: &quot;Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off.&quot; Megatron: &quot;I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered.&quot; Bumblebee: &quot;Little people first!&quot;<br /> ::For Starscream joining the Decepticons, &quot;What would you have your Arbiter do?&quot; [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 00:36, 06 June 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == New characters ==<br /> <br /> Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the &quot;embargo&quot; pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream_%28WFC%29|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[Special:Contributions/98.204.17.1|98.204.17.1]] 17:45, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Short Answer: No. Long Answer: Well, probably not, they're almost crtainly actual characters in the story version of the game from what we've seen, but no one will know 100% for sure until the game is out and we play through and see. But still, likely, no. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:00, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==<br /> <br /> [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&amp;postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::&quot;Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS...&quot; So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Picked my copy up and it is rather a bit more close to Exodus from the reviews elsewhere. While I don't have a copy of Exodus on hand yet, the charges against Megatron that includes bombing Six Lasers Over Cybertron and kidnapping Sentinel Prime is mentioned. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:20, 24 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Feel free to edit the article I set up at my [[User:Lonegamer78/Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|sandbox]] until we can figure out where to place the comic's article. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == For now... ==<br /> <br /> ...I'm deciding WfC is classified as a Primax-cluster universe. Now that the toys are sort of out, we really need to stick them ''somewhere''. And there's been nothing indicated that its universe isn't terribly G1y. This could change in the future as we come to understand its universe better, but we can move it then. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 2 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm beginning to wonder if the &quot;G1 continuity family&quot; is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't &quot;terribly G1y&quot; in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Division by Game? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> At some point soon are we going to need to give this page a major overhaul? From the sounds of it the Wii and DS versions are going to have signifigant enough character and play differnces that talking about it all as &quot;one single game&quot; would likely become counterproductive. Don't have the time right now to check but isn't that how we've handled multiplatform games in the past? A 360/PS3 section, a Wii section and a DS section? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:15, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I know there are two seperate articles for the PS1 and N64 versions of the Beast Wars Transmetal fighting games. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:54, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::The games actually have different names, as well. The Wii version is called Transformers: Cybertron Adventures. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 23:55, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Usually there's seperate pages for different versions of the games, there'll probably be one for this game too. Might be better to wait until they're out though. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:25, 11 June 2010 (GMT)<br /> <br /> == Matt Tieger Says... ==<br /> I am, right now, listening to a Kotaku podcast where they are interviewing Matt Tieger, and he says War for Cybertron is &quot;like a prequel to G1.&quot; http://ca.kotaku.com/5559654/its-a-prime-time-to-talk-transformers<br /> So, is this confirmation of being G1, or do we still wait until the game or official fiction is released? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:01, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I think the keywords is that he used &quot;like a&quot; on describing WfC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:07, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Another note from the podcast: Matt Tieger says that Corey Burton is NOT the voice of Shockwave, but rather they got a sound-alike. Should this be worth mentioning? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Matt Tieger has also said that WFC is a direct prequel to the G1 cartoon, which is impossible on several levels given what we know. I think a lot of what he says is to get people to buy the game (SHOCK SHOCK I KNOW) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DS Version ==<br /> <br /> Source for all of these &quot;DS-only&quot; guys? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:34, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : People who've played the game. I myself have seen Kup and Dirge fairly early on in the Toys R Us demo version. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:38, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: After going through the game, Kup's actually not playable, never featured beyond his portrait appearing in the tutorial. Hot Rod, on the other hand, is in, though he's named Hot Shot. On the decepticon side, there's also Ramjet, Motormaster and Dragstrip--[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 05:46, 23 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Box Art==<br /> <br /> I have a picture of the Box Art, should I upload it, and if there's a version already here, shouldn't we use it as the Main Picture? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 13:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==<br /> <br /> == I know some missons! ==<br /> <br /> I resantly looked at campaign and misson desighn and it showed the names of some missons lets add that.<br /> :Where did you look at them? Were they officially released by Hasbro/the programming company? If not, then they are not eligible for inclusion on this wiki. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:54, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> yes,<br /> confirmed misson names are <br /> defend iacon,<br /> death of hope,<br /> the final guardian,<br /> fuel of war,<br /> iacon destroyed,<br /> false propaganda,<br /> decagon plaza<br /> these are a few confirmed missons<br /> :Where were they released? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:57, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Confirmed by high moon.<br /> :Where? When? Source, please? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> www.transformersgame.com go to media videos then behind the sceans campagn and misson desighn then when hes choosing a level he scrolls throgh these levels.<br /> <br /> ==James Remar==<br /> So, was this actually confirmed? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:57, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : I also would like to know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I as well, but I like Remar so I filled out his article anyway. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:21, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Given the fact you jumped all over me for that Ausgamers thing, I would have thought this article's creation would have caused some discussion. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:52, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Yeah well I figured with the article locked from anons... the WfC page would've been spared from unsourced statements. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:56, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Someone also added the WfC Starscream thing back onto [[Doug Parker]]'s article. Has THAT been confirmed? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 21:39, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::You know... seeing as how a few folks on the Allspark have snagged copies early, why not just beg them in the thread or PM or something if they can upload screenies/scans (whichever is applicable) of the credits for us? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:40, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::Never mind, now that I'm caught up over there, I see [[User:abates|abates]] already did that. XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:44, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-war-cybertron-discussion/309191-transformers-war-cybertron-cast-spoiler.html Spotted this over on TFW2005], FWIW. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Megatron's voiced by [[Fred Tatasciore]], apparently. (BRB, making new actor pages. :P) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 22:22, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::I will totally fist-pump if he is, because I freakin' called that in ''January''. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 03:49, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Profiles? ==<br /> <br /> Should we bother linking to all of the available official website character profiles, or are we just going to remove the existing links once the game comes out? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:07, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : They count as G1 canon so we should keep them linked to their G1 counterparts.--[[User:Primetime]] 12:06, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: That's not what Jeysie is talking about. She's talking about the links to the official WFC website. &quot;official website character profiles.&quot; Me, uh, I don't really have an opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: Yeah, Walky got it in one.<br /> ::: I guess my confusion was... I wasn't sure if the links were intended as information (in which case, might as well keep 'em), or just as sources for the character being in the game (in which case, once we get an official credits list from the game itself, said sources aren't really needed).<br /> ::: Not that I'm fussed either way... I just was itching to be consistent, and wasn't sure if that involved linking or deleting. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:14, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: For me, more info is almost always better. Link!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Name?==<br /> <br /> Is there a name for the guy I'm referring to as &quot;Giant Autobot tank thing that you fight before Zeta Prime&quot;? He has lines and stuff, but he didn't really look like anybody I recognized. (I refuse to call him by the name &quot;that guy who kicked my ass about a dozen times until I got lucky.&quot;) {{unsigned|Skyshock Thunderblast}} 09:22, 25 June 2010<br /> :I'm pretty sure he's just a generic. You fight a few more during the Decepticon campaign, and some more during the Autobot campaign. I know they call the Decepticon ones &quot;Destroyers,&quot; but I'm not sure what the Autobot ones are called. The loading-screen hints refer to them as, simply, Tanks. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I had assumed &quot;Destroyer&quot; was for both Autobots and Decepticons with that body-type. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:06, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I assumed that as well, but I was just going with what I knew for certain. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:27, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: I would SWEAR I heard one of the other Autobots refer to him by name. Well, Matt Tieger from Full Moon is at BC this year. Ask him? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:56, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::: Tanks for Autobots, Destroyers for Decepticons, according to the subtitles.<br /> == DS Profile Pictures ==<br /> <br /> Any use in screenshots for the characters as they appear in the DS Game? Will also be able to get console versions soon too.<br /> --[[User:Scatterlung|Scatterlung]] 14:22, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Who's the blue Autobot Tank? ==<br /> In the concept art (autobot recruits section, i believe) and the credits, there is a blue Autobot tank that clearly is not a blue version of Warpath, and looks like a completely different design. Is this a reference to a real Transformers character? ''(i don't know everything there is to know about transformers, so to those who do, please have mercy...)'' [[Special:Contributions/24.145.176.54|24.145.176.54]] 14:08, 26 June 2010 (EDT)unregistered contributor (has accounts on other wikis, but doesn't work on this one)<br /> :I'd say Twin Twist; while it's obviously not a jumpstarter, he's the closest thing to a blue and white Autobot tank I could find. The real mystery is why the Constructicon truck and this guy aren't in the game, since those faction/classes only have one mesh right now.<br /> ::I strongly doubt it's Twin Twist. Can you give us any more details about the character? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:59, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I think it's just the model for the generic Autobot tank soldiers you fight in the game. It may not actually be that color of blue (some of the character models aren't the final colors). --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::It certainly isn't, because there aren't any. Is there any real reason it can't be Twin Twist? I can post a pic, but he doesn't look much like anyone in particular (much as the purple/green constructicon doesn't either). Tanks (or heavy enough to be tanks) are rare enough on the Autobot side to narrow it down pretty quickly: the only guys that jump out at me are Twin Twist or animated Sentinel Prime. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pnakotus/tf/IMG_0550.jpg. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.127.90|118.208.127.90]]<br /> :I have the 360 game the guy is in the credits sinama. I think he may be a sneek peak at ultar magnus for this game but thats just my gess. {{unsigned|74.103.61.137}} 06:12, 28 June 2010<br /> :The PC version, having all the bot names apparent on characters' model files, names him as Scattershot.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:50, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Aha, so I was right. Because his head, colors, and altmode are 100% Cybertron Defense [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:54, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Maybe its time for a cleanup ==<br /> <br /> The game is out, the preview stuff is now irrelevant, and solid information regarding plot, characters, continuity etc is available. Devoting 33% of the article to a promotional webgame that hasn't told us anything for six months is ... strange.<br /> :I've worked a bit on the article today. Did a synopsis for the 360 version, but I don't own the Wii or DS ones. Someone else will have to help with those. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:27, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I'd suggest moving the Gallery to the end, using a more TFwiki standard arrangement of images/references/voice actors/etc, removing the useless 'Transmission Recovery' section, and expanding the references section (Primus, conversion cog, etc). [[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::Perhaps the 'Transmission Recovery' section could be split into a new article? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:24, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Sure, but the game isn't playable anymore and the video you 'recover' is just one of the trailers that are freely available.[[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::::Okay, the sections are shuffled to be more logical and in line with other articles. What happened to the plot synopsis? [[User:Pnakotus|Pnakotus]] 00:54, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Advice on writing up the weapons.==<br /> I think the game's variety of weapons deserves a write-up, but I'm not sure if I should make individual pages for them or just put them all on one page. Information for the Null Ray, for example, was already sort-of mentioned on the page for the G1 [[Null ray]]. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I went ahead and made a page for all of the weapons. Definitely needs pics, though... --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 17:01, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I think they really need to have individual pages - the list page doesn't really fit in with how we do things. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Can we lock these WFC articles down? ==<br /> <br /> Or else I'm going to be spending the rest of my time on the wiki attempting to write WFC articles only to have to clean up after anon users (and relatively new members who don't know how to write in our style). Then I will give up because the articles are now too much work to get up to standards, video gamers who edited these articles have amazingly short attention spans and have left, and I'm the only one left who edits these things, as seen here last year: [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)]] *cries* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:29, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Which ones? just the main game articles? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:19, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Probably for the best. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:01, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Hey, I can still edit these things too! I need to...uh...actually finish the game first, though. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:38, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == G1? ==<br /> <br /> This game SHOULD NOT be connected to the prime series.WHICH IS WHY HASBRO PUT THIS AS CANNON TO THE G1 series.you can not tell me that the storline for the game is the same as the exodus comic book.-- [[user:Primetime]] july 6,2010 (EDT)<br /> :We might take you more seriously if you're not screaming at us and misspelling &quot;canon&quot;. Just a suggestion. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:39, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, Exodus isn't a comic book, and it's marketed as a tie-in novel to the game. So for all intents and purposes it is the novelization of the game, even if it's not exactly the same.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :They did? When? Where? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:49, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> 1:I'm not yelling,I just typed it that way.2:It's a tie-in comic?3:This wiki hardly listens to other users to the point where i should be yelling.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:57,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Exodus mentions the video game in its trade dress in several places. Also, as I said, it's not even a comic.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:16, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> hmmmmm, so which one is the g1 prequel because high moon sayed their storyline was a g1 prequel(read interviews).And they came out first and hasbro is just trying to jazz things up with things like Exodus and the prime cartoon(which is sayed to be a movie prequel but I don't know).--[[Primetime|Primetime]] 01:36,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Exodus was released on the same day as War for Cybertron. Because, again, it's a marketing tie-in.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:40, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> Thats great! now like I sayed before is it G1 liked the interviews sayed or not like some of you keep saying(I mean the game).--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:26 7, July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :It's the backstory for the new continuity that the Prime cartoon on the Hub will share. This was confirmed at BotCon. The new continuity borrows elements from several past ones, including a movie-style AllSpark, a series of space bridges leading to Cybertronian colonies a la Galaxy Force/Cybertron, the Elite Guard from Animated, the Wreckers, and a great many other nods to previous work. It is not exclusively G1 that is referenced.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:37, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::NO IT IS NOT G1. STOP INTERPRETING STUFF HIGH MOON STUDIOS SAID SO THE GAME WOULD SELL BETTER AS WORD OF GOD. <br /> ::I had to get that out of my system. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 02:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :If it's G1, why is there an AllSpark cube? Why is Bumblebee mute? And what's Gigantion doing there? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 09:46, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, Thy, that's all stuff from the Exodus novel, not WFC proper. They're tied together, but the original poster was only speaking about the game. (Annoyingly enough, Bumblebee loses his voice in the novel before the events of the game (loosely) take place, making Bumblebee's talking kind of, you know, another fun discrepancy.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:48, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> SOOO doesn't that mean the Exodus Novel and the game are not related due to the MAJOR differences in the storyline(because honestly the game seems REALLY like its a G1 prequel).And if you disagree explain why bumblebee can suddenly talk again and he is just meeting optimus and ratchet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:00,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> : If it fits with G1 how come the designs are different, Dinobots, Combaticons and Aerialbots are present, the origin of Optimus is different, the origin of the Matrix is different, the way they leave the planet is different etc. etc. etc. etc.? {{unsigned|201.88.66.127|12:16, 7 July 2010}}<br /> ::That's been done all the time. The cartoon characters had different Cybertronian forms than the Dreamwave characters, but they're both G1. Plus, the Dinobots, Stunticons et al were in the War Within. Still, this game isn't G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 12:27, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Those wouldn't keep it out of G1, but DO prevent it from being the backstory to the G1 toon. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:36, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> : Inconsistencies in story do not magically make Exodus anything other than a marketing tie-in to the game. They are intended to go together. If you likewise choose to ignore the fact that Hasbro have said that this will continue on into Prime and beyond, I don't know what more we can get out of this discussion.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 12:26, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> Okay High moon is STILL saying their game is a prequel to G1 even after they released the game.We SHOULD make new WFC pages,or link them back to G1.Forget hasbro right now I'm talking about High moon and their intentions for their game.No prime or Exodus.---[[Primetime|Primetime]] 1:14, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :WFC is part of the backstory for TF:Prime. It seems like it can apply to G1 too because TF:Prime is deliberately mirroring a lot of G1, especially in past setup. But they're not the same and we will not treat them the same. Unless High Moon is also writing the next cartoon, that's that. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 13:25, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::&quot;Forget Hasbro&quot;? You do realize that Hasbro has the final say on things, not High Moon. High Moon's statements are simply marketing, not fiction. Of course, why we are bothering to try to explain this to someone whose grasp of English does not include the simple word &quot;said&quot; is beyond me. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:36, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::This is either a troll or someone who does not understand English. (Who, BTW, happens to share his username with a notorious Wikipedia troll/vandal) Either way this is getting ridiculous. High Moon DOES NOT have the final say on this stuff, their statement about WFC being G1 WAS intended to get more people to buy the game, YOU ARE AN ANNOYING LITTLE MAN, Primetime. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:54, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> (sighs)Okay look,lets drop this WHOLE topic.I might have misspelled on ACCIDENT and generally I was asking a question that you guys kept dodging.I'm not a troll(never heard of the ''notorious troll on wikia before that you're talking about'')so lets leave it alone and keep igonoring my question and go on with our lives.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:12, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :We've answered your question. Repeatedly. This IS NOT a prequel to the G1 toon, because Hasbro says it isn't. The hyperbole and metaphor used by High Moon as marketing strategy does not enter into things. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:24, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> OOOKKKKAAAYYY I understand, now stop Talking about it.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 14:35, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == pages ==<br /> <br /> When are we going to create more character pages(e.g.Jetfire,Air Raid)?Just wondering because for some reason instead of a page for Ironhide we have a page for scattershot who isn't released yet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 14:48,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :We just got an avalanche of materials to work through - AllSpark Almanac 2, Exodus, BotCon coverage - so it's going to take time to create other character pages when we get to it. &quot;Your patience will be rewarded.&quot; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:55, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DLC ==<br /> <br /> Shouldn't we put more info about the upcoming dlc somewhere on this page because the ''extra info''I'm talking about has already been confirmed(e.g.maps,characters).Right now the only info about it is the characters.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime] 3:41,8 July 2010 (EDT)</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* G1? */</p> <hr /> <div>== G1 Characters ==<br /> <br /> Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> :There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?<br /> :Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say &quot;assumption&quot; isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)<br /> :::The TFW2005 interview states it's &quot;not connected to any particular generation&quot; and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)<br /> ::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::::::How about &quot;WFC&quot;? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> :::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using &quot;WFC&quot; to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)<br /> :::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview &quot;Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe.&quot; The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying &quot;Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not,&quot; or vice-versa &quot;anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?&quot; A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. &quot;Its prehistory is very slightly different&quot; will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than &quot;influenced by it&quot; I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> <br /> To me, this seems every bit as G1 as War Within - Yeah it branches out into it's own story but it's hard to deny that this isn't just as G1 as DW or IDW comics given the use of characters and story telling style. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}} 08:55, 28 June 2010<br /> <br /> == The New trailer ==<br /> <br /> should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> preety much.<br /> <br /> == Logos ==<br /> <br /> I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Starscream? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the &quot;Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault&quot; picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010<br /> Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]<br /> ::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::: I'd say more &quot;Classics-ized&quot; versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Fresh trailer guys ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage<br /> <br /> Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...<br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Third link in &quot;external links&quot; at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Character Sources?==<br /> I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> : For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Release date==<br /> Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)<br /> sweetness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Motormaster ==<br /> <br /> Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version: <br /> http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg<br /> <br /> Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game. <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html<br /> : I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Interview and more gameplay and footage ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story<br /> <br /> Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.<br /> <br /> -Aaron Archer<br /> <br /> -It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.<br /> <br /> -Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?<br /> <br /> -And much more...<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> <br /> == No PSP option... ==<br /> <br /> Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I think its a &quot;revised&quot;<br /> backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Voice actor thing ==<br /> <br /> I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending &quot;false&quot; information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.<br /> :So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with &quot;AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego&quot; and &quot;Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]&quot;. Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not &quot;We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia.&quot; --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with &quot;idiots&quot; over &quot;cover-up&quot;. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> According to IMDB, Soundwave is played by [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0071818/ Jeff Bennet]. Is this legit enough for this wiki? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:22, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Nuh-uh. IMDB is like Wiki where any user can edit the content, be it actual or junk. I rather wait till an official announcement from either Activision or High Moon themselves. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:54, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == New Characters' pages? ==<br /> VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?<br /> : We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)<br /> <br /> VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> <br /> :The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out &quot;Oops, they're part of G1&quot; and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> :I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jazz? ==<br /> <br /> The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave<br /> <br /> == Image Captions/Quotes ==<br /> <br /> So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?<br /> <br /> And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.<br /> <br /> ''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''<br /> <br /> Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved<br /> <br /> [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)<br /> :By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same &quot;gritty dark&quot; feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: &quot;Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little.&quot; Omega Supreme's picture: &quot;Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off.&quot; Megatron: &quot;I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered.&quot; Bumblebee: &quot;Little people first!&quot;<br /> ::For Starscream joining the Decepticons, &quot;What would you have your Arbiter do?&quot; [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 00:36, 06 June 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == New characters ==<br /> <br /> Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the &quot;embargo&quot; pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream_%28WFC%29|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[Special:Contributions/98.204.17.1|98.204.17.1]] 17:45, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Short Answer: No. Long Answer: Well, probably not, they're almost crtainly actual characters in the story version of the game from what we've seen, but no one will know 100% for sure until the game is out and we play through and see. But still, likely, no. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:00, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==<br /> <br /> [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&amp;postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::&quot;Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS...&quot; So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Picked my copy up and it is rather a bit more close to Exodus from the reviews elsewhere. While I don't have a copy of Exodus on hand yet, the charges against Megatron that includes bombing Six Lasers Over Cybertron and kidnapping Sentinel Prime is mentioned. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:20, 24 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Feel free to edit the article I set up at my [[User:Lonegamer78/Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|sandbox]] until we can figure out where to place the comic's article. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == For now... ==<br /> <br /> ...I'm deciding WfC is classified as a Primax-cluster universe. Now that the toys are sort of out, we really need to stick them ''somewhere''. And there's been nothing indicated that its universe isn't terribly G1y. This could change in the future as we come to understand its universe better, but we can move it then. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 2 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm beginning to wonder if the &quot;G1 continuity family&quot; is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't &quot;terribly G1y&quot; in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Division by Game? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> At some point soon are we going to need to give this page a major overhaul? From the sounds of it the Wii and DS versions are going to have signifigant enough character and play differnces that talking about it all as &quot;one single game&quot; would likely become counterproductive. Don't have the time right now to check but isn't that how we've handled multiplatform games in the past? A 360/PS3 section, a Wii section and a DS section? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:15, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I know there are two seperate articles for the PS1 and N64 versions of the Beast Wars Transmetal fighting games. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:54, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::The games actually have different names, as well. The Wii version is called Transformers: Cybertron Adventures. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 23:55, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Usually there's seperate pages for different versions of the games, there'll probably be one for this game too. Might be better to wait until they're out though. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:25, 11 June 2010 (GMT)<br /> <br /> == Matt Tieger Says... ==<br /> I am, right now, listening to a Kotaku podcast where they are interviewing Matt Tieger, and he says War for Cybertron is &quot;like a prequel to G1.&quot; http://ca.kotaku.com/5559654/its-a-prime-time-to-talk-transformers<br /> So, is this confirmation of being G1, or do we still wait until the game or official fiction is released? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:01, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I think the keywords is that he used &quot;like a&quot; on describing WfC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:07, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Another note from the podcast: Matt Tieger says that Corey Burton is NOT the voice of Shockwave, but rather they got a sound-alike. Should this be worth mentioning? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Matt Tieger has also said that WFC is a direct prequel to the G1 cartoon, which is impossible on several levels given what we know. I think a lot of what he says is to get people to buy the game (SHOCK SHOCK I KNOW) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DS Version ==<br /> <br /> Source for all of these &quot;DS-only&quot; guys? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:34, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : People who've played the game. I myself have seen Kup and Dirge fairly early on in the Toys R Us demo version. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:38, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: After going through the game, Kup's actually not playable, never featured beyond his portrait appearing in the tutorial. Hot Rod, on the other hand, is in, though he's named Hot Shot. On the decepticon side, there's also Ramjet, Motormaster and Dragstrip--[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 05:46, 23 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Box Art==<br /> <br /> I have a picture of the Box Art, should I upload it, and if there's a version already here, shouldn't we use it as the Main Picture? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 13:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==<br /> <br /> == I know some missons! ==<br /> <br /> I resantly looked at campaign and misson desighn and it showed the names of some missons lets add that.<br /> :Where did you look at them? Were they officially released by Hasbro/the programming company? If not, then they are not eligible for inclusion on this wiki. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:54, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> yes,<br /> confirmed misson names are <br /> defend iacon,<br /> death of hope,<br /> the final guardian,<br /> fuel of war,<br /> iacon destroyed,<br /> false propaganda,<br /> decagon plaza<br /> these are a few confirmed missons<br /> :Where were they released? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:57, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Confirmed by high moon.<br /> :Where? When? Source, please? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> www.transformersgame.com go to media videos then behind the sceans campagn and misson desighn then when hes choosing a level he scrolls throgh these levels.<br /> <br /> ==James Remar==<br /> So, was this actually confirmed? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:57, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : I also would like to know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I as well, but I like Remar so I filled out his article anyway. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:21, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Given the fact you jumped all over me for that Ausgamers thing, I would have thought this article's creation would have caused some discussion. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:52, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Yeah well I figured with the article locked from anons... the WfC page would've been spared from unsourced statements. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:56, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Someone also added the WfC Starscream thing back onto [[Doug Parker]]'s article. Has THAT been confirmed? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 21:39, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::You know... seeing as how a few folks on the Allspark have snagged copies early, why not just beg them in the thread or PM or something if they can upload screenies/scans (whichever is applicable) of the credits for us? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:40, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::Never mind, now that I'm caught up over there, I see [[User:abates|abates]] already did that. XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:44, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-war-cybertron-discussion/309191-transformers-war-cybertron-cast-spoiler.html Spotted this over on TFW2005], FWIW. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Megatron's voiced by [[Fred Tatasciore]], apparently. (BRB, making new actor pages. :P) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 22:22, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::I will totally fist-pump if he is, because I freakin' called that in ''January''. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 03:49, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Profiles? ==<br /> <br /> Should we bother linking to all of the available official website character profiles, or are we just going to remove the existing links once the game comes out? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:07, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : They count as G1 canon so we should keep them linked to their G1 counterparts.--[[User:Primetime]] 12:06, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: That's not what Jeysie is talking about. She's talking about the links to the official WFC website. &quot;official website character profiles.&quot; Me, uh, I don't really have an opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: Yeah, Walky got it in one.<br /> ::: I guess my confusion was... I wasn't sure if the links were intended as information (in which case, might as well keep 'em), or just as sources for the character being in the game (in which case, once we get an official credits list from the game itself, said sources aren't really needed).<br /> ::: Not that I'm fussed either way... I just was itching to be consistent, and wasn't sure if that involved linking or deleting. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:14, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: For me, more info is almost always better. Link!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Name?==<br /> <br /> Is there a name for the guy I'm referring to as &quot;Giant Autobot tank thing that you fight before Zeta Prime&quot;? He has lines and stuff, but he didn't really look like anybody I recognized. (I refuse to call him by the name &quot;that guy who kicked my ass about a dozen times until I got lucky.&quot;) {{unsigned|Skyshock Thunderblast}} 09:22, 25 June 2010<br /> :I'm pretty sure he's just a generic. You fight a few more during the Decepticon campaign, and some more during the Autobot campaign. I know they call the Decepticon ones &quot;Destroyers,&quot; but I'm not sure what the Autobot ones are called. The loading-screen hints refer to them as, simply, Tanks. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I had assumed &quot;Destroyer&quot; was for both Autobots and Decepticons with that body-type. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:06, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I assumed that as well, but I was just going with what I knew for certain. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:27, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: I would SWEAR I heard one of the other Autobots refer to him by name. Well, Matt Tieger from Full Moon is at BC this year. Ask him? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:56, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::: Tanks for Autobots, Destroyers for Decepticons, according to the subtitles.<br /> == DS Profile Pictures ==<br /> <br /> Any use in screenshots for the characters as they appear in the DS Game? Will also be able to get console versions soon too.<br /> --[[User:Scatterlung|Scatterlung]] 14:22, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Who's the blue Autobot Tank? ==<br /> In the concept art (autobot recruits section, i believe) and the credits, there is a blue Autobot tank that clearly is not a blue version of Warpath, and looks like a completely different design. Is this a reference to a real Transformers character? ''(i don't know everything there is to know about transformers, so to those who do, please have mercy...)'' [[Special:Contributions/24.145.176.54|24.145.176.54]] 14:08, 26 June 2010 (EDT)unregistered contributor (has accounts on other wikis, but doesn't work on this one)<br /> :I'd say Twin Twist; while it's obviously not a jumpstarter, he's the closest thing to a blue and white Autobot tank I could find. The real mystery is why the Constructicon truck and this guy aren't in the game, since those faction/classes only have one mesh right now.<br /> ::I strongly doubt it's Twin Twist. Can you give us any more details about the character? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:59, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I think it's just the model for the generic Autobot tank soldiers you fight in the game. It may not actually be that color of blue (some of the character models aren't the final colors). --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::It certainly isn't, because there aren't any. Is there any real reason it can't be Twin Twist? I can post a pic, but he doesn't look much like anyone in particular (much as the purple/green constructicon doesn't either). Tanks (or heavy enough to be tanks) are rare enough on the Autobot side to narrow it down pretty quickly: the only guys that jump out at me are Twin Twist or animated Sentinel Prime. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pnakotus/tf/IMG_0550.jpg. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.127.90|118.208.127.90]]<br /> :I have the 360 game the guy is in the credits sinama. I think he may be a sneek peak at ultar magnus for this game but thats just my gess. {{unsigned|74.103.61.137}} 06:12, 28 June 2010<br /> :The PC version, having all the bot names apparent on characters' model files, names him as Scattershot.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:50, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Aha, so I was right. Because his head, colors, and altmode are 100% Cybertron Defense [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:54, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Maybe its time for a cleanup ==<br /> <br /> The game is out, the preview stuff is now irrelevant, and solid information regarding plot, characters, continuity etc is available. Devoting 33% of the article to a promotional webgame that hasn't told us anything for six months is ... strange.<br /> :I've worked a bit on the article today. Did a synopsis for the 360 version, but I don't own the Wii or DS ones. Someone else will have to help with those. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:27, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I'd suggest moving the Gallery to the end, using a more TFwiki standard arrangement of images/references/voice actors/etc, removing the useless 'Transmission Recovery' section, and expanding the references section (Primus, conversion cog, etc). [[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::Perhaps the 'Transmission Recovery' section could be split into a new article? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:24, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Sure, but the game isn't playable anymore and the video you 'recover' is just one of the trailers that are freely available.[[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::::Okay, the sections are shuffled to be more logical and in line with other articles. What happened to the plot synopsis? [[User:Pnakotus|Pnakotus]] 00:54, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Advice on writing up the weapons.==<br /> I think the game's variety of weapons deserves a write-up, but I'm not sure if I should make individual pages for them or just put them all on one page. Information for the Null Ray, for example, was already sort-of mentioned on the page for the G1 [[Null ray]]. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I went ahead and made a page for all of the weapons. Definitely needs pics, though... --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 17:01, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I think they really need to have individual pages - the list page doesn't really fit in with how we do things. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Can we lock these WFC articles down? ==<br /> <br /> Or else I'm going to be spending the rest of my time on the wiki attempting to write WFC articles only to have to clean up after anon users (and relatively new members who don't know how to write in our style). Then I will give up because the articles are now too much work to get up to standards, video gamers who edited these articles have amazingly short attention spans and have left, and I'm the only one left who edits these things, as seen here last year: [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)]] *cries* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:29, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Which ones? just the main game articles? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:19, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Probably for the best. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:01, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Hey, I can still edit these things too! I need to...uh...actually finish the game first, though. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:38, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == pages ==<br /> <br /> When are we going to create more character pages(e.g.Jetfire,Air Raid)?Just wondering because for some reason instead of a page for Ironhide we have a page for scattershot who isn't released yet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 14:48,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :We just got an avalanche of materials to work through - AllSpark Almanac 2, Exodus, BotCon coverage - so it's going to take time to create other character pages when we get to it. &quot;Your patience will be rewarded.&quot; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:55, 7 July 2010 (EDT)</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* G1? */</p> <hr /> <div>== G1 Characters ==<br /> <br /> Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> :There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?<br /> :Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say &quot;assumption&quot; isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)<br /> :::The TFW2005 interview states it's &quot;not connected to any particular generation&quot; and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)<br /> ::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::::::How about &quot;WFC&quot;? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> :::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using &quot;WFC&quot; to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)<br /> :::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview &quot;Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe.&quot; The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying &quot;Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not,&quot; or vice-versa &quot;anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?&quot; A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. &quot;Its prehistory is very slightly different&quot; will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than &quot;influenced by it&quot; I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> <br /> To me, this seems every bit as G1 as War Within - Yeah it branches out into it's own story but it's hard to deny that this isn't just as G1 as DW or IDW comics given the use of characters and story telling style. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}} 08:55, 28 June 2010<br /> <br /> == The New trailer ==<br /> <br /> should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> preety much.<br /> <br /> == Logos ==<br /> <br /> I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Starscream? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the &quot;Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault&quot; picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010<br /> Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]<br /> ::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::: I'd say more &quot;Classics-ized&quot; versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Fresh trailer guys ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage<br /> <br /> Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...<br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Third link in &quot;external links&quot; at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Character Sources?==<br /> I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> : For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Release date==<br /> Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)<br /> sweetness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Motormaster ==<br /> <br /> Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version: <br /> http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg<br /> <br /> Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game. <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html<br /> : I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Interview and more gameplay and footage ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story<br /> <br /> Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.<br /> <br /> -Aaron Archer<br /> <br /> -It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.<br /> <br /> -Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?<br /> <br /> -And much more...<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> <br /> == No PSP option... ==<br /> <br /> Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I think its a &quot;revised&quot;<br /> backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Voice actor thing ==<br /> <br /> I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending &quot;false&quot; information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.<br /> :So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with &quot;AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego&quot; and &quot;Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]&quot;. Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not &quot;We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia.&quot; --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with &quot;idiots&quot; over &quot;cover-up&quot;. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> According to IMDB, Soundwave is played by [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0071818/ Jeff Bennet]. Is this legit enough for this wiki? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:22, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Nuh-uh. IMDB is like Wiki where any user can edit the content, be it actual or junk. I rather wait till an official announcement from either Activision or High Moon themselves. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:54, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == New Characters' pages? ==<br /> VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?<br /> : We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)<br /> <br /> VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> <br /> :The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out &quot;Oops, they're part of G1&quot; and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> :I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jazz? ==<br /> <br /> The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave<br /> <br /> == Image Captions/Quotes ==<br /> <br /> So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?<br /> <br /> And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.<br /> <br /> ''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''<br /> <br /> Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved<br /> <br /> [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)<br /> :By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same &quot;gritty dark&quot; feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: &quot;Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little.&quot; Omega Supreme's picture: &quot;Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off.&quot; Megatron: &quot;I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered.&quot; Bumblebee: &quot;Little people first!&quot;<br /> ::For Starscream joining the Decepticons, &quot;What would you have your Arbiter do?&quot; [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 00:36, 06 June 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == New characters ==<br /> <br /> Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the &quot;embargo&quot; pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream_%28WFC%29|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[Special:Contributions/98.204.17.1|98.204.17.1]] 17:45, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Short Answer: No. Long Answer: Well, probably not, they're almost crtainly actual characters in the story version of the game from what we've seen, but no one will know 100% for sure until the game is out and we play through and see. But still, likely, no. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:00, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==<br /> <br /> [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&amp;postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::&quot;Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS...&quot; So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Picked my copy up and it is rather a bit more close to Exodus from the reviews elsewhere. While I don't have a copy of Exodus on hand yet, the charges against Megatron that includes bombing Six Lasers Over Cybertron and kidnapping Sentinel Prime is mentioned. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:20, 24 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Feel free to edit the article I set up at my [[User:Lonegamer78/Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|sandbox]] until we can figure out where to place the comic's article. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == For now... ==<br /> <br /> ...I'm deciding WfC is classified as a Primax-cluster universe. Now that the toys are sort of out, we really need to stick them ''somewhere''. And there's been nothing indicated that its universe isn't terribly G1y. This could change in the future as we come to understand its universe better, but we can move it then. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 2 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm beginning to wonder if the &quot;G1 continuity family&quot; is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't &quot;terribly G1y&quot; in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Division by Game? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> At some point soon are we going to need to give this page a major overhaul? From the sounds of it the Wii and DS versions are going to have signifigant enough character and play differnces that talking about it all as &quot;one single game&quot; would likely become counterproductive. Don't have the time right now to check but isn't that how we've handled multiplatform games in the past? A 360/PS3 section, a Wii section and a DS section? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:15, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I know there are two seperate articles for the PS1 and N64 versions of the Beast Wars Transmetal fighting games. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:54, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::The games actually have different names, as well. The Wii version is called Transformers: Cybertron Adventures. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 23:55, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Usually there's seperate pages for different versions of the games, there'll probably be one for this game too. Might be better to wait until they're out though. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:25, 11 June 2010 (GMT)<br /> <br /> == Matt Tieger Says... ==<br /> I am, right now, listening to a Kotaku podcast where they are interviewing Matt Tieger, and he says War for Cybertron is &quot;like a prequel to G1.&quot; http://ca.kotaku.com/5559654/its-a-prime-time-to-talk-transformers<br /> So, is this confirmation of being G1, or do we still wait until the game or official fiction is released? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:01, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I think the keywords is that he used &quot;like a&quot; on describing WfC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:07, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Another note from the podcast: Matt Tieger says that Corey Burton is NOT the voice of Shockwave, but rather they got a sound-alike. Should this be worth mentioning? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Matt Tieger has also said that WFC is a direct prequel to the G1 cartoon, which is impossible on several levels given what we know. I think a lot of what he says is to get people to buy the game (SHOCK SHOCK I KNOW) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DS Version ==<br /> <br /> Source for all of these &quot;DS-only&quot; guys? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:34, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : People who've played the game. I myself have seen Kup and Dirge fairly early on in the Toys R Us demo version. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:38, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: After going through the game, Kup's actually not playable, never featured beyond his portrait appearing in the tutorial. Hot Rod, on the other hand, is in, though he's named Hot Shot. On the decepticon side, there's also Ramjet, Motormaster and Dragstrip--[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 05:46, 23 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Box Art==<br /> <br /> I have a picture of the Box Art, should I upload it, and if there's a version already here, shouldn't we use it as the Main Picture? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 13:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==<br /> <br /> == I know some missons! ==<br /> <br /> I resantly looked at campaign and misson desighn and it showed the names of some missons lets add that.<br /> :Where did you look at them? Were they officially released by Hasbro/the programming company? If not, then they are not eligible for inclusion on this wiki. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:54, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> yes,<br /> confirmed misson names are <br /> defend iacon,<br /> death of hope,<br /> the final guardian,<br /> fuel of war,<br /> iacon destroyed,<br /> false propaganda,<br /> decagon plaza<br /> these are a few confirmed missons<br /> :Where were they released? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:57, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Confirmed by high moon.<br /> :Where? When? Source, please? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> www.transformersgame.com go to media videos then behind the sceans campagn and misson desighn then when hes choosing a level he scrolls throgh these levels.<br /> <br /> ==James Remar==<br /> So, was this actually confirmed? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:57, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : I also would like to know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I as well, but I like Remar so I filled out his article anyway. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:21, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Given the fact you jumped all over me for that Ausgamers thing, I would have thought this article's creation would have caused some discussion. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:52, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Yeah well I figured with the article locked from anons... the WfC page would've been spared from unsourced statements. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:56, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Someone also added the WfC Starscream thing back onto [[Doug Parker]]'s article. Has THAT been confirmed? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 21:39, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::You know... seeing as how a few folks on the Allspark have snagged copies early, why not just beg them in the thread or PM or something if they can upload screenies/scans (whichever is applicable) of the credits for us? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:40, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::Never mind, now that I'm caught up over there, I see [[User:abates|abates]] already did that. XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:44, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-war-cybertron-discussion/309191-transformers-war-cybertron-cast-spoiler.html Spotted this over on TFW2005], FWIW. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Megatron's voiced by [[Fred Tatasciore]], apparently. (BRB, making new actor pages. :P) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 22:22, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::I will totally fist-pump if he is, because I freakin' called that in ''January''. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 03:49, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Profiles? ==<br /> <br /> Should we bother linking to all of the available official website character profiles, or are we just going to remove the existing links once the game comes out? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:07, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : They count as G1 canon so we should keep them linked to their G1 counterparts.--[[User:Primetime]] 12:06, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: That's not what Jeysie is talking about. She's talking about the links to the official WFC website. &quot;official website character profiles.&quot; Me, uh, I don't really have an opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: Yeah, Walky got it in one.<br /> ::: I guess my confusion was... I wasn't sure if the links were intended as information (in which case, might as well keep 'em), or just as sources for the character being in the game (in which case, once we get an official credits list from the game itself, said sources aren't really needed).<br /> ::: Not that I'm fussed either way... I just was itching to be consistent, and wasn't sure if that involved linking or deleting. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:14, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: For me, more info is almost always better. Link!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Name?==<br /> <br /> Is there a name for the guy I'm referring to as &quot;Giant Autobot tank thing that you fight before Zeta Prime&quot;? He has lines and stuff, but he didn't really look like anybody I recognized. (I refuse to call him by the name &quot;that guy who kicked my ass about a dozen times until I got lucky.&quot;) {{unsigned|Skyshock Thunderblast}} 09:22, 25 June 2010<br /> :I'm pretty sure he's just a generic. You fight a few more during the Decepticon campaign, and some more during the Autobot campaign. I know they call the Decepticon ones &quot;Destroyers,&quot; but I'm not sure what the Autobot ones are called. The loading-screen hints refer to them as, simply, Tanks. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I had assumed &quot;Destroyer&quot; was for both Autobots and Decepticons with that body-type. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:06, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I assumed that as well, but I was just going with what I knew for certain. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:27, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: I would SWEAR I heard one of the other Autobots refer to him by name. Well, Matt Tieger from Full Moon is at BC this year. Ask him? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:56, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::: Tanks for Autobots, Destroyers for Decepticons, according to the subtitles.<br /> == DS Profile Pictures ==<br /> <br /> Any use in screenshots for the characters as they appear in the DS Game? Will also be able to get console versions soon too.<br /> --[[User:Scatterlung|Scatterlung]] 14:22, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Who's the blue Autobot Tank? ==<br /> In the concept art (autobot recruits section, i believe) and the credits, there is a blue Autobot tank that clearly is not a blue version of Warpath, and looks like a completely different design. Is this a reference to a real Transformers character? ''(i don't know everything there is to know about transformers, so to those who do, please have mercy...)'' [[Special:Contributions/24.145.176.54|24.145.176.54]] 14:08, 26 June 2010 (EDT)unregistered contributor (has accounts on other wikis, but doesn't work on this one)<br /> :I'd say Twin Twist; while it's obviously not a jumpstarter, he's the closest thing to a blue and white Autobot tank I could find. The real mystery is why the Constructicon truck and this guy aren't in the game, since those faction/classes only have one mesh right now.<br /> ::I strongly doubt it's Twin Twist. Can you give us any more details about the character? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:59, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I think it's just the model for the generic Autobot tank soldiers you fight in the game. It may not actually be that color of blue (some of the character models aren't the final colors). --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::It certainly isn't, because there aren't any. Is there any real reason it can't be Twin Twist? I can post a pic, but he doesn't look much like anyone in particular (much as the purple/green constructicon doesn't either). Tanks (or heavy enough to be tanks) are rare enough on the Autobot side to narrow it down pretty quickly: the only guys that jump out at me are Twin Twist or animated Sentinel Prime. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pnakotus/tf/IMG_0550.jpg. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.127.90|118.208.127.90]]<br /> :I have the 360 game the guy is in the credits sinama. I think he may be a sneek peak at ultar magnus for this game but thats just my gess. {{unsigned|74.103.61.137}} 06:12, 28 June 2010<br /> :The PC version, having all the bot names apparent on characters' model files, names him as Scattershot.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:50, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Aha, so I was right. Because his head, colors, and altmode are 100% Cybertron Defense [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:54, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Maybe its time for a cleanup ==<br /> <br /> The game is out, the preview stuff is now irrelevant, and solid information regarding plot, characters, continuity etc is available. Devoting 33% of the article to a promotional webgame that hasn't told us anything for six months is ... strange.<br /> :I've worked a bit on the article today. Did a synopsis for the 360 version, but I don't own the Wii or DS ones. Someone else will have to help with those. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:27, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I'd suggest moving the Gallery to the end, using a more TFwiki standard arrangement of images/references/voice actors/etc, removing the useless 'Transmission Recovery' section, and expanding the references section (Primus, conversion cog, etc). [[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::Perhaps the 'Transmission Recovery' section could be split into a new article? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:24, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Sure, but the game isn't playable anymore and the video you 'recover' is just one of the trailers that are freely available.[[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::::Okay, the sections are shuffled to be more logical and in line with other articles. What happened to the plot synopsis? [[User:Pnakotus|Pnakotus]] 00:54, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Advice on writing up the weapons.==<br /> I think the game's variety of weapons deserves a write-up, but I'm not sure if I should make individual pages for them or just put them all on one page. Information for the Null Ray, for example, was already sort-of mentioned on the page for the G1 [[Null ray]]. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I went ahead and made a page for all of the weapons. Definitely needs pics, though... --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 17:01, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I think they really need to have individual pages - the list page doesn't really fit in with how we do things. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Can we lock these WFC articles down? ==<br /> <br /> Or else I'm going to be spending the rest of my time on the wiki attempting to write WFC articles only to have to clean up after anon users (and relatively new members who don't know how to write in our style). Then I will give up because the articles are now too much work to get up to standards, video gamers who edited these articles have amazingly short attention spans and have left, and I'm the only one left who edits these things, as seen here last year: [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)]] *cries* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:29, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Which ones? just the main game articles? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:19, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Probably for the best. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:01, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Hey, I can still edit these things too! I need to...uh...actually finish the game first, though. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:38, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == pages ==<br /> <br /> When are we going to create more character pages(e.g.Jetfire,Air Raid)?Just wondering because for some reason instead of a page for Ironhide we have a page for scattershot who isn't released yet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 14:48,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :We just got an avalanche of materials to work through - AllSpark Almanac 2, Exodus, BotCon coverage - so it's going to take time to create other character pages when we get to it. &quot;Your patience will be rewarded.&quot; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:55, 7 July 2010 (EDT)</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* pages */</p> <hr /> <div>== G1 Characters ==<br /> <br /> Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> :There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?<br /> :Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say &quot;assumption&quot; isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)<br /> :::The TFW2005 interview states it's &quot;not connected to any particular generation&quot; and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)<br /> ::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::::::How about &quot;WFC&quot;? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> :::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using &quot;WFC&quot; to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)<br /> :::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview &quot;Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe.&quot; The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying &quot;Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not,&quot; or vice-versa &quot;anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?&quot; A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. &quot;Its prehistory is very slightly different&quot; will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than &quot;influenced by it&quot; I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> <br /> To me, this seems every bit as G1 as War Within - Yeah it branches out into it's own story but it's hard to deny that this isn't just as G1 as DW or IDW comics given the use of characters and story telling style. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}} 08:55, 28 June 2010<br /> <br /> == The New trailer ==<br /> <br /> should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> preety much.<br /> <br /> == Logos ==<br /> <br /> I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Starscream? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the &quot;Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault&quot; picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010<br /> Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]<br /> ::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::: I'd say more &quot;Classics-ized&quot; versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Fresh trailer guys ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage<br /> <br /> Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...<br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Third link in &quot;external links&quot; at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Character Sources?==<br /> I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> : For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Release date==<br /> Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)<br /> sweetness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Motormaster ==<br /> <br /> Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version: <br /> http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg<br /> <br /> Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game. <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html<br /> : I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Interview and more gameplay and footage ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story<br /> <br /> Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.<br /> <br /> -Aaron Archer<br /> <br /> -It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.<br /> <br /> -Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?<br /> <br /> -And much more...<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> <br /> == No PSP option... ==<br /> <br /> Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I think its a &quot;revised&quot;<br /> backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Voice actor thing ==<br /> <br /> I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending &quot;false&quot; information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.<br /> :So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with &quot;AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego&quot; and &quot;Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]&quot;. Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not &quot;We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia.&quot; --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with &quot;idiots&quot; over &quot;cover-up&quot;. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> According to IMDB, Soundwave is played by [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0071818/ Jeff Bennet]. Is this legit enough for this wiki? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:22, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Nuh-uh. IMDB is like Wiki where any user can edit the content, be it actual or junk. I rather wait till an official announcement from either Activision or High Moon themselves. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:54, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == New Characters' pages? ==<br /> VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?<br /> : We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)<br /> <br /> VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> <br /> :The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out &quot;Oops, they're part of G1&quot; and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> :I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jazz? ==<br /> <br /> The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave<br /> <br /> == Image Captions/Quotes ==<br /> <br /> So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?<br /> <br /> And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.<br /> <br /> ''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''<br /> <br /> Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved<br /> <br /> [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)<br /> :By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same &quot;gritty dark&quot; feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: &quot;Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little.&quot; Omega Supreme's picture: &quot;Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off.&quot; Megatron: &quot;I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered.&quot; Bumblebee: &quot;Little people first!&quot;<br /> ::For Starscream joining the Decepticons, &quot;What would you have your Arbiter do?&quot; [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 00:36, 06 June 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == New characters ==<br /> <br /> Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the &quot;embargo&quot; pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream_%28WFC%29|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[Special:Contributions/98.204.17.1|98.204.17.1]] 17:45, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Short Answer: No. Long Answer: Well, probably not, they're almost crtainly actual characters in the story version of the game from what we've seen, but no one will know 100% for sure until the game is out and we play through and see. But still, likely, no. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:00, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==<br /> <br /> [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&amp;postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::&quot;Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS...&quot; So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Picked my copy up and it is rather a bit more close to Exodus from the reviews elsewhere. While I don't have a copy of Exodus on hand yet, the charges against Megatron that includes bombing Six Lasers Over Cybertron and kidnapping Sentinel Prime is mentioned. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:20, 24 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Feel free to edit the article I set up at my [[User:Lonegamer78/Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|sandbox]] until we can figure out where to place the comic's article. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == For now... ==<br /> <br /> ...I'm deciding WfC is classified as a Primax-cluster universe. Now that the toys are sort of out, we really need to stick them ''somewhere''. And there's been nothing indicated that its universe isn't terribly G1y. This could change in the future as we come to understand its universe better, but we can move it then. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 2 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm beginning to wonder if the &quot;G1 continuity family&quot; is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't &quot;terribly G1y&quot; in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Division by Game? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> At some point soon are we going to need to give this page a major overhaul? From the sounds of it the Wii and DS versions are going to have signifigant enough character and play differnces that talking about it all as &quot;one single game&quot; would likely become counterproductive. Don't have the time right now to check but isn't that how we've handled multiplatform games in the past? A 360/PS3 section, a Wii section and a DS section? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:15, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I know there are two seperate articles for the PS1 and N64 versions of the Beast Wars Transmetal fighting games. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:54, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::The games actually have different names, as well. The Wii version is called Transformers: Cybertron Adventures. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 23:55, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Usually there's seperate pages for different versions of the games, there'll probably be one for this game too. Might be better to wait until they're out though. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:25, 11 June 2010 (GMT)<br /> <br /> == Matt Tieger Says... ==<br /> I am, right now, listening to a Kotaku podcast where they are interviewing Matt Tieger, and he says War for Cybertron is &quot;like a prequel to G1.&quot; http://ca.kotaku.com/5559654/its-a-prime-time-to-talk-transformers<br /> So, is this confirmation of being G1, or do we still wait until the game or official fiction is released? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:01, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I think the keywords is that he used &quot;like a&quot; on describing WfC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:07, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Another note from the podcast: Matt Tieger says that Corey Burton is NOT the voice of Shockwave, but rather they got a sound-alike. Should this be worth mentioning? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Matt Tieger has also said that WFC is a direct prequel to the G1 cartoon, which is impossible on several levels given what we know. I think a lot of what he says is to get people to buy the game (SHOCK SHOCK I KNOW) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DS Version ==<br /> <br /> Source for all of these &quot;DS-only&quot; guys? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:34, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : People who've played the game. I myself have seen Kup and Dirge fairly early on in the Toys R Us demo version. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:38, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: After going through the game, Kup's actually not playable, never featured beyond his portrait appearing in the tutorial. Hot Rod, on the other hand, is in, though he's named Hot Shot. On the decepticon side, there's also Ramjet, Motormaster and Dragstrip--[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 05:46, 23 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Box Art==<br /> <br /> I have a picture of the Box Art, should I upload it, and if there's a version already here, shouldn't we use it as the Main Picture? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 13:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==<br /> <br /> == I know some missons! ==<br /> <br /> I resantly looked at campaign and misson desighn and it showed the names of some missons lets add that.<br /> :Where did you look at them? Were they officially released by Hasbro/the programming company? If not, then they are not eligible for inclusion on this wiki. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:54, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> yes,<br /> confirmed misson names are <br /> defend iacon,<br /> death of hope,<br /> the final guardian,<br /> fuel of war,<br /> iacon destroyed,<br /> false propaganda,<br /> decagon plaza<br /> these are a few confirmed missons<br /> :Where were they released? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:57, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Confirmed by high moon.<br /> :Where? When? Source, please? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> www.transformersgame.com go to media videos then behind the sceans campagn and misson desighn then when hes choosing a level he scrolls throgh these levels.<br /> <br /> ==James Remar==<br /> So, was this actually confirmed? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:57, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : I also would like to know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I as well, but I like Remar so I filled out his article anyway. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:21, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Given the fact you jumped all over me for that Ausgamers thing, I would have thought this article's creation would have caused some discussion. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:52, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Yeah well I figured with the article locked from anons... the WfC page would've been spared from unsourced statements. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:56, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Someone also added the WfC Starscream thing back onto [[Doug Parker]]'s article. Has THAT been confirmed? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 21:39, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::You know... seeing as how a few folks on the Allspark have snagged copies early, why not just beg them in the thread or PM or something if they can upload screenies/scans (whichever is applicable) of the credits for us? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:40, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::Never mind, now that I'm caught up over there, I see [[User:abates|abates]] already did that. XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:44, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-war-cybertron-discussion/309191-transformers-war-cybertron-cast-spoiler.html Spotted this over on TFW2005], FWIW. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Megatron's voiced by [[Fred Tatasciore]], apparently. (BRB, making new actor pages. :P) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 22:22, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::I will totally fist-pump if he is, because I freakin' called that in ''January''. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 03:49, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Profiles? ==<br /> <br /> Should we bother linking to all of the available official website character profiles, or are we just going to remove the existing links once the game comes out? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:07, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : They count as G1 canon so we should keep them linked to their G1 counterparts.--[[User:Primetime]] 12:06, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: That's not what Jeysie is talking about. She's talking about the links to the official WFC website. &quot;official website character profiles.&quot; Me, uh, I don't really have an opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: Yeah, Walky got it in one.<br /> ::: I guess my confusion was... I wasn't sure if the links were intended as information (in which case, might as well keep 'em), or just as sources for the character being in the game (in which case, once we get an official credits list from the game itself, said sources aren't really needed).<br /> ::: Not that I'm fussed either way... I just was itching to be consistent, and wasn't sure if that involved linking or deleting. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:14, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: For me, more info is almost always better. Link!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Name?==<br /> <br /> Is there a name for the guy I'm referring to as &quot;Giant Autobot tank thing that you fight before Zeta Prime&quot;? He has lines and stuff, but he didn't really look like anybody I recognized. (I refuse to call him by the name &quot;that guy who kicked my ass about a dozen times until I got lucky.&quot;) {{unsigned|Skyshock Thunderblast}} 09:22, 25 June 2010<br /> :I'm pretty sure he's just a generic. You fight a few more during the Decepticon campaign, and some more during the Autobot campaign. I know they call the Decepticon ones &quot;Destroyers,&quot; but I'm not sure what the Autobot ones are called. The loading-screen hints refer to them as, simply, Tanks. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I had assumed &quot;Destroyer&quot; was for both Autobots and Decepticons with that body-type. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:06, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I assumed that as well, but I was just going with what I knew for certain. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:27, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: I would SWEAR I heard one of the other Autobots refer to him by name. Well, Matt Tieger from Full Moon is at BC this year. Ask him? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:56, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::: Tanks for Autobots, Destroyers for Decepticons, according to the subtitles.<br /> == DS Profile Pictures ==<br /> <br /> Any use in screenshots for the characters as they appear in the DS Game? Will also be able to get console versions soon too.<br /> --[[User:Scatterlung|Scatterlung]] 14:22, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Who's the blue Autobot Tank? ==<br /> In the concept art (autobot recruits section, i believe) and the credits, there is a blue Autobot tank that clearly is not a blue version of Warpath, and looks like a completely different design. Is this a reference to a real Transformers character? ''(i don't know everything there is to know about transformers, so to those who do, please have mercy...)'' [[Special:Contributions/24.145.176.54|24.145.176.54]] 14:08, 26 June 2010 (EDT)unregistered contributor (has accounts on other wikis, but doesn't work on this one)<br /> :I'd say Twin Twist; while it's obviously not a jumpstarter, he's the closest thing to a blue and white Autobot tank I could find. The real mystery is why the Constructicon truck and this guy aren't in the game, since those faction/classes only have one mesh right now.<br /> ::I strongly doubt it's Twin Twist. Can you give us any more details about the character? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:59, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I think it's just the model for the generic Autobot tank soldiers you fight in the game. It may not actually be that color of blue (some of the character models aren't the final colors). --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::It certainly isn't, because there aren't any. Is there any real reason it can't be Twin Twist? I can post a pic, but he doesn't look much like anyone in particular (much as the purple/green constructicon doesn't either). Tanks (or heavy enough to be tanks) are rare enough on the Autobot side to narrow it down pretty quickly: the only guys that jump out at me are Twin Twist or animated Sentinel Prime. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pnakotus/tf/IMG_0550.jpg. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.127.90|118.208.127.90]]<br /> :I have the 360 game the guy is in the credits sinama. I think he may be a sneek peak at ultar magnus for this game but thats just my gess. {{unsigned|74.103.61.137}} 06:12, 28 June 2010<br /> :The PC version, having all the bot names apparent on characters' model files, names him as Scattershot.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:50, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Aha, so I was right. Because his head, colors, and altmode are 100% Cybertron Defense [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:54, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Maybe its time for a cleanup ==<br /> <br /> The game is out, the preview stuff is now irrelevant, and solid information regarding plot, characters, continuity etc is available. Devoting 33% of the article to a promotional webgame that hasn't told us anything for six months is ... strange.<br /> :I've worked a bit on the article today. Did a synopsis for the 360 version, but I don't own the Wii or DS ones. Someone else will have to help with those. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:27, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I'd suggest moving the Gallery to the end, using a more TFwiki standard arrangement of images/references/voice actors/etc, removing the useless 'Transmission Recovery' section, and expanding the references section (Primus, conversion cog, etc). [[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::Perhaps the 'Transmission Recovery' section could be split into a new article? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:24, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Sure, but the game isn't playable anymore and the video you 'recover' is just one of the trailers that are freely available.[[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::::Okay, the sections are shuffled to be more logical and in line with other articles. What happened to the plot synopsis? [[User:Pnakotus|Pnakotus]] 00:54, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Advice on writing up the weapons.==<br /> I think the game's variety of weapons deserves a write-up, but I'm not sure if I should make individual pages for them or just put them all on one page. Information for the Null Ray, for example, was already sort-of mentioned on the page for the G1 [[Null ray]]. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I went ahead and made a page for all of the weapons. Definitely needs pics, though... --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 17:01, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I think they really need to have individual pages - the list page doesn't really fit in with how we do things. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Can we lock these WFC articles down? ==<br /> <br /> Or else I'm going to be spending the rest of my time on the wiki attempting to write WFC articles only to have to clean up after anon users (and relatively new members who don't know how to write in our style). Then I will give up because the articles are now too much work to get up to standards, video gamers who edited these articles have amazingly short attention spans and have left, and I'm the only one left who edits these things, as seen here last year: [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)]] *cries* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:29, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Which ones? just the main game articles? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:19, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Probably for the best. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:01, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Hey, I can still edit these things too! I need to...uh...actually finish the game first, though. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:38, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == pages ==<br /> <br /> When are we going to create more character pages(e.g.Jetfire,Air Raid)?Just wondering because for some reason instead of a page for Ironhide we have a page for scattershot who isn't released yet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 14:48,7 July 2010 (EDT)</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* pages */</p> <hr /> <div>== G1 Characters ==<br /> <br /> Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> :There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?<br /> :Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say &quot;assumption&quot; isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)<br /> :::The TFW2005 interview states it's &quot;not connected to any particular generation&quot; and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)<br /> ::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::::::How about &quot;WFC&quot;? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> :::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using &quot;WFC&quot; to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)<br /> :::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview &quot;Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe.&quot; The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying &quot;Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not,&quot; or vice-versa &quot;anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?&quot; A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. &quot;Its prehistory is very slightly different&quot; will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than &quot;influenced by it&quot; I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> <br /> To me, this seems every bit as G1 as War Within - Yeah it branches out into it's own story but it's hard to deny that this isn't just as G1 as DW or IDW comics given the use of characters and story telling style. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}} 08:55, 28 June 2010<br /> <br /> == The New trailer ==<br /> <br /> should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> preety much.<br /> <br /> == Logos ==<br /> <br /> I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Starscream? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the &quot;Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault&quot; picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010<br /> Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]<br /> ::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::: I'd say more &quot;Classics-ized&quot; versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Fresh trailer guys ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage<br /> <br /> Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...<br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Third link in &quot;external links&quot; at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Character Sources?==<br /> I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> : For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Release date==<br /> Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)<br /> sweetness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Motormaster ==<br /> <br /> Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version: <br /> http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg<br /> <br /> Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game. <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html<br /> : I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Interview and more gameplay and footage ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story<br /> <br /> Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.<br /> <br /> -Aaron Archer<br /> <br /> -It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.<br /> <br /> -Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?<br /> <br /> -And much more...<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> <br /> == No PSP option... ==<br /> <br /> Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I think its a &quot;revised&quot;<br /> backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Voice actor thing ==<br /> <br /> I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending &quot;false&quot; information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.<br /> :So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with &quot;AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego&quot; and &quot;Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]&quot;. Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not &quot;We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia.&quot; --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with &quot;idiots&quot; over &quot;cover-up&quot;. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> According to IMDB, Soundwave is played by [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0071818/ Jeff Bennet]. Is this legit enough for this wiki? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:22, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Nuh-uh. IMDB is like Wiki where any user can edit the content, be it actual or junk. I rather wait till an official announcement from either Activision or High Moon themselves. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:54, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == New Characters' pages? ==<br /> VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?<br /> : We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)<br /> <br /> VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> <br /> :The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out &quot;Oops, they're part of G1&quot; and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> :I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jazz? ==<br /> <br /> The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave<br /> <br /> == Image Captions/Quotes ==<br /> <br /> So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?<br /> <br /> And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.<br /> <br /> ''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''<br /> <br /> Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved<br /> <br /> [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)<br /> :By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same &quot;gritty dark&quot; feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: &quot;Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little.&quot; Omega Supreme's picture: &quot;Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off.&quot; Megatron: &quot;I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered.&quot; Bumblebee: &quot;Little people first!&quot;<br /> ::For Starscream joining the Decepticons, &quot;What would you have your Arbiter do?&quot; [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 00:36, 06 June 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == New characters ==<br /> <br /> Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the &quot;embargo&quot; pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream_%28WFC%29|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[Special:Contributions/98.204.17.1|98.204.17.1]] 17:45, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Short Answer: No. Long Answer: Well, probably not, they're almost crtainly actual characters in the story version of the game from what we've seen, but no one will know 100% for sure until the game is out and we play through and see. But still, likely, no. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:00, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==<br /> <br /> [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&amp;postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::&quot;Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS...&quot; So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Picked my copy up and it is rather a bit more close to Exodus from the reviews elsewhere. While I don't have a copy of Exodus on hand yet, the charges against Megatron that includes bombing Six Lasers Over Cybertron and kidnapping Sentinel Prime is mentioned. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:20, 24 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Feel free to edit the article I set up at my [[User:Lonegamer78/Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|sandbox]] until we can figure out where to place the comic's article. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == For now... ==<br /> <br /> ...I'm deciding WfC is classified as a Primax-cluster universe. Now that the toys are sort of out, we really need to stick them ''somewhere''. And there's been nothing indicated that its universe isn't terribly G1y. This could change in the future as we come to understand its universe better, but we can move it then. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 2 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm beginning to wonder if the &quot;G1 continuity family&quot; is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't &quot;terribly G1y&quot; in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Division by Game? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> At some point soon are we going to need to give this page a major overhaul? From the sounds of it the Wii and DS versions are going to have signifigant enough character and play differnces that talking about it all as &quot;one single game&quot; would likely become counterproductive. Don't have the time right now to check but isn't that how we've handled multiplatform games in the past? A 360/PS3 section, a Wii section and a DS section? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:15, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I know there are two seperate articles for the PS1 and N64 versions of the Beast Wars Transmetal fighting games. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:54, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::The games actually have different names, as well. The Wii version is called Transformers: Cybertron Adventures. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 23:55, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Usually there's seperate pages for different versions of the games, there'll probably be one for this game too. Might be better to wait until they're out though. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:25, 11 June 2010 (GMT)<br /> <br /> == Matt Tieger Says... ==<br /> I am, right now, listening to a Kotaku podcast where they are interviewing Matt Tieger, and he says War for Cybertron is &quot;like a prequel to G1.&quot; http://ca.kotaku.com/5559654/its-a-prime-time-to-talk-transformers<br /> So, is this confirmation of being G1, or do we still wait until the game or official fiction is released? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:01, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I think the keywords is that he used &quot;like a&quot; on describing WfC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:07, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Another note from the podcast: Matt Tieger says that Corey Burton is NOT the voice of Shockwave, but rather they got a sound-alike. Should this be worth mentioning? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Matt Tieger has also said that WFC is a direct prequel to the G1 cartoon, which is impossible on several levels given what we know. I think a lot of what he says is to get people to buy the game (SHOCK SHOCK I KNOW) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DS Version ==<br /> <br /> Source for all of these &quot;DS-only&quot; guys? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:34, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : People who've played the game. I myself have seen Kup and Dirge fairly early on in the Toys R Us demo version. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:38, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: After going through the game, Kup's actually not playable, never featured beyond his portrait appearing in the tutorial. Hot Rod, on the other hand, is in, though he's named Hot Shot. On the decepticon side, there's also Ramjet, Motormaster and Dragstrip--[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 05:46, 23 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Box Art==<br /> <br /> I have a picture of the Box Art, should I upload it, and if there's a version already here, shouldn't we use it as the Main Picture? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 13:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==<br /> <br /> == I know some missons! ==<br /> <br /> I resantly looked at campaign and misson desighn and it showed the names of some missons lets add that.<br /> :Where did you look at them? Were they officially released by Hasbro/the programming company? If not, then they are not eligible for inclusion on this wiki. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:54, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> yes,<br /> confirmed misson names are <br /> defend iacon,<br /> death of hope,<br /> the final guardian,<br /> fuel of war,<br /> iacon destroyed,<br /> false propaganda,<br /> decagon plaza<br /> these are a few confirmed missons<br /> :Where were they released? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:57, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Confirmed by high moon.<br /> :Where? When? Source, please? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> www.transformersgame.com go to media videos then behind the sceans campagn and misson desighn then when hes choosing a level he scrolls throgh these levels.<br /> <br /> ==James Remar==<br /> So, was this actually confirmed? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:57, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : I also would like to know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I as well, but I like Remar so I filled out his article anyway. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:21, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Given the fact you jumped all over me for that Ausgamers thing, I would have thought this article's creation would have caused some discussion. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:52, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Yeah well I figured with the article locked from anons... the WfC page would've been spared from unsourced statements. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:56, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Someone also added the WfC Starscream thing back onto [[Doug Parker]]'s article. Has THAT been confirmed? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 21:39, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::You know... seeing as how a few folks on the Allspark have snagged copies early, why not just beg them in the thread or PM or something if they can upload screenies/scans (whichever is applicable) of the credits for us? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:40, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::Never mind, now that I'm caught up over there, I see [[User:abates|abates]] already did that. XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:44, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-war-cybertron-discussion/309191-transformers-war-cybertron-cast-spoiler.html Spotted this over on TFW2005], FWIW. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Megatron's voiced by [[Fred Tatasciore]], apparently. (BRB, making new actor pages. :P) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 22:22, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::I will totally fist-pump if he is, because I freakin' called that in ''January''. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 03:49, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Profiles? ==<br /> <br /> Should we bother linking to all of the available official website character profiles, or are we just going to remove the existing links once the game comes out? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:07, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : They count as G1 canon so we should keep them linked to their G1 counterparts.--[[User:Primetime]] 12:06, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: That's not what Jeysie is talking about. She's talking about the links to the official WFC website. &quot;official website character profiles.&quot; Me, uh, I don't really have an opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: Yeah, Walky got it in one.<br /> ::: I guess my confusion was... I wasn't sure if the links were intended as information (in which case, might as well keep 'em), or just as sources for the character being in the game (in which case, once we get an official credits list from the game itself, said sources aren't really needed).<br /> ::: Not that I'm fussed either way... I just was itching to be consistent, and wasn't sure if that involved linking or deleting. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:14, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: For me, more info is almost always better. Link!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Name?==<br /> <br /> Is there a name for the guy I'm referring to as &quot;Giant Autobot tank thing that you fight before Zeta Prime&quot;? He has lines and stuff, but he didn't really look like anybody I recognized. (I refuse to call him by the name &quot;that guy who kicked my ass about a dozen times until I got lucky.&quot;) {{unsigned|Skyshock Thunderblast}} 09:22, 25 June 2010<br /> :I'm pretty sure he's just a generic. You fight a few more during the Decepticon campaign, and some more during the Autobot campaign. I know they call the Decepticon ones &quot;Destroyers,&quot; but I'm not sure what the Autobot ones are called. The loading-screen hints refer to them as, simply, Tanks. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I had assumed &quot;Destroyer&quot; was for both Autobots and Decepticons with that body-type. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:06, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I assumed that as well, but I was just going with what I knew for certain. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:27, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: I would SWEAR I heard one of the other Autobots refer to him by name. Well, Matt Tieger from Full Moon is at BC this year. Ask him? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:56, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::: Tanks for Autobots, Destroyers for Decepticons, according to the subtitles.<br /> == DS Profile Pictures ==<br /> <br /> Any use in screenshots for the characters as they appear in the DS Game? Will also be able to get console versions soon too.<br /> --[[User:Scatterlung|Scatterlung]] 14:22, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Who's the blue Autobot Tank? ==<br /> In the concept art (autobot recruits section, i believe) and the credits, there is a blue Autobot tank that clearly is not a blue version of Warpath, and looks like a completely different design. Is this a reference to a real Transformers character? ''(i don't know everything there is to know about transformers, so to those who do, please have mercy...)'' [[Special:Contributions/24.145.176.54|24.145.176.54]] 14:08, 26 June 2010 (EDT)unregistered contributor (has accounts on other wikis, but doesn't work on this one)<br /> :I'd say Twin Twist; while it's obviously not a jumpstarter, he's the closest thing to a blue and white Autobot tank I could find. The real mystery is why the Constructicon truck and this guy aren't in the game, since those faction/classes only have one mesh right now.<br /> ::I strongly doubt it's Twin Twist. Can you give us any more details about the character? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:59, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I think it's just the model for the generic Autobot tank soldiers you fight in the game. It may not actually be that color of blue (some of the character models aren't the final colors). --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::It certainly isn't, because there aren't any. Is there any real reason it can't be Twin Twist? I can post a pic, but he doesn't look much like anyone in particular (much as the purple/green constructicon doesn't either). Tanks (or heavy enough to be tanks) are rare enough on the Autobot side to narrow it down pretty quickly: the only guys that jump out at me are Twin Twist or animated Sentinel Prime. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pnakotus/tf/IMG_0550.jpg. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.127.90|118.208.127.90]]<br /> :I have the 360 game the guy is in the credits sinama. I think he may be a sneek peak at ultar magnus for this game but thats just my gess. {{unsigned|74.103.61.137}} 06:12, 28 June 2010<br /> :The PC version, having all the bot names apparent on characters' model files, names him as Scattershot.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:50, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Aha, so I was right. Because his head, colors, and altmode are 100% Cybertron Defense [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:54, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Maybe its time for a cleanup ==<br /> <br /> The game is out, the preview stuff is now irrelevant, and solid information regarding plot, characters, continuity etc is available. Devoting 33% of the article to a promotional webgame that hasn't told us anything for six months is ... strange.<br /> :I've worked a bit on the article today. Did a synopsis for the 360 version, but I don't own the Wii or DS ones. Someone else will have to help with those. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:27, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I'd suggest moving the Gallery to the end, using a more TFwiki standard arrangement of images/references/voice actors/etc, removing the useless 'Transmission Recovery' section, and expanding the references section (Primus, conversion cog, etc). [[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::Perhaps the 'Transmission Recovery' section could be split into a new article? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:24, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Sure, but the game isn't playable anymore and the video you 'recover' is just one of the trailers that are freely available.[[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::::Okay, the sections are shuffled to be more logical and in line with other articles. What happened to the plot synopsis? [[User:Pnakotus|Pnakotus]] 00:54, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Advice on writing up the weapons.==<br /> I think the game's variety of weapons deserves a write-up, but I'm not sure if I should make individual pages for them or just put them all on one page. Information for the Null Ray, for example, was already sort-of mentioned on the page for the G1 [[Null ray]]. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I went ahead and made a page for all of the weapons. Definitely needs pics, though... --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 17:01, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I think they really need to have individual pages - the list page doesn't really fit in with how we do things. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Can we lock these WFC articles down? ==<br /> <br /> Or else I'm going to be spending the rest of my time on the wiki attempting to write WFC articles only to have to clean up after anon users (and relatively new members who don't know how to write in our style). Then I will give up because the articles are now too much work to get up to standards, video gamers who edited these articles have amazingly short attention spans and have left, and I'm the only one left who edits these things, as seen here last year: [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)]] *cries* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:29, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Which ones? just the main game articles? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:19, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Probably for the best. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:01, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Hey, I can still edit these things too! I need to...uh...actually finish the game first, though. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:38, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == pages ==<br /> <br /> When are we going to create more character pages(e.g.Jetfire,Air Raid)?Just wondering because for some reason instead of a page for Ironhide we have a page for scattershot who isn't released yet.</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* pages */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>== G1 Characters ==<br /> <br /> Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> :There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?<br /> :Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say &quot;assumption&quot; isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)<br /> :::The TFW2005 interview states it's &quot;not connected to any particular generation&quot; and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)<br /> ::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::::::How about &quot;WFC&quot;? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> :::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using &quot;WFC&quot; to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)<br /> :::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview &quot;Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe.&quot; The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying &quot;Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not,&quot; or vice-versa &quot;anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?&quot; A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. &quot;Its prehistory is very slightly different&quot; will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than &quot;influenced by it&quot; I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> <br /> To me, this seems every bit as G1 as War Within - Yeah it branches out into it's own story but it's hard to deny that this isn't just as G1 as DW or IDW comics given the use of characters and story telling style. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}} 08:55, 28 June 2010<br /> <br /> == The New trailer ==<br /> <br /> should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> preety much.<br /> <br /> == Logos ==<br /> <br /> I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Starscream? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the &quot;Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault&quot; picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010<br /> Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]<br /> ::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::: I'd say more &quot;Classics-ized&quot; versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Fresh trailer guys ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage<br /> <br /> Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...<br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Third link in &quot;external links&quot; at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Character Sources?==<br /> I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> : For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Release date==<br /> Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)<br /> sweetness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Motormaster ==<br /> <br /> Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version: <br /> http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg<br /> <br /> Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game. <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html<br /> : I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Interview and more gameplay and footage ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story<br /> <br /> Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.<br /> <br /> -Aaron Archer<br /> <br /> -It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.<br /> <br /> -Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?<br /> <br /> -And much more...<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> <br /> == No PSP option... ==<br /> <br /> Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I think its a &quot;revised&quot;<br /> backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Voice actor thing ==<br /> <br /> I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending &quot;false&quot; information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.<br /> :So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with &quot;AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego&quot; and &quot;Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]&quot;. Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not &quot;We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia.&quot; --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with &quot;idiots&quot; over &quot;cover-up&quot;. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> According to IMDB, Soundwave is played by [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0071818/ Jeff Bennet]. Is this legit enough for this wiki? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:22, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Nuh-uh. IMDB is like Wiki where any user can edit the content, be it actual or junk. I rather wait till an official announcement from either Activision or High Moon themselves. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:54, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == New Characters' pages? ==<br /> VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?<br /> : We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)<br /> <br /> VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> <br /> :The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out &quot;Oops, they're part of G1&quot; and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> :I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jazz? ==<br /> <br /> The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave<br /> <br /> == Image Captions/Quotes ==<br /> <br /> So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?<br /> <br /> And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.<br /> <br /> ''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''<br /> <br /> Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved<br /> <br /> [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)<br /> :By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same &quot;gritty dark&quot; feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: &quot;Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little.&quot; Omega Supreme's picture: &quot;Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off.&quot; Megatron: &quot;I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered.&quot; Bumblebee: &quot;Little people first!&quot;<br /> ::For Starscream joining the Decepticons, &quot;What would you have your Arbiter do?&quot; [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 00:36, 06 June 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == New characters ==<br /> <br /> Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the &quot;embargo&quot; pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream_%28WFC%29|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[Special:Contributions/98.204.17.1|98.204.17.1]] 17:45, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Short Answer: No. Long Answer: Well, probably not, they're almost crtainly actual characters in the story version of the game from what we've seen, but no one will know 100% for sure until the game is out and we play through and see. But still, likely, no. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:00, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==<br /> <br /> [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&amp;postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::&quot;Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS...&quot; So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Picked my copy up and it is rather a bit more close to Exodus from the reviews elsewhere. While I don't have a copy of Exodus on hand yet, the charges against Megatron that includes bombing Six Lasers Over Cybertron and kidnapping Sentinel Prime is mentioned. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:20, 24 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Feel free to edit the article I set up at my [[User:Lonegamer78/Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|sandbox]] until we can figure out where to place the comic's article. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == For now... ==<br /> <br /> ...I'm deciding WfC is classified as a Primax-cluster universe. Now that the toys are sort of out, we really need to stick them ''somewhere''. And there's been nothing indicated that its universe isn't terribly G1y. This could change in the future as we come to understand its universe better, but we can move it then. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 2 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm beginning to wonder if the &quot;G1 continuity family&quot; is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't &quot;terribly G1y&quot; in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Division by Game? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> At some point soon are we going to need to give this page a major overhaul? From the sounds of it the Wii and DS versions are going to have signifigant enough character and play differnces that talking about it all as &quot;one single game&quot; would likely become counterproductive. Don't have the time right now to check but isn't that how we've handled multiplatform games in the past? A 360/PS3 section, a Wii section and a DS section? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:15, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I know there are two seperate articles for the PS1 and N64 versions of the Beast Wars Transmetal fighting games. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:54, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::The games actually have different names, as well. The Wii version is called Transformers: Cybertron Adventures. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 23:55, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Usually there's seperate pages for different versions of the games, there'll probably be one for this game too. Might be better to wait until they're out though. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:25, 11 June 2010 (GMT)<br /> <br /> == Matt Tieger Says... ==<br /> I am, right now, listening to a Kotaku podcast where they are interviewing Matt Tieger, and he says War for Cybertron is &quot;like a prequel to G1.&quot; http://ca.kotaku.com/5559654/its-a-prime-time-to-talk-transformers<br /> So, is this confirmation of being G1, or do we still wait until the game or official fiction is released? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:01, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I think the keywords is that he used &quot;like a&quot; on describing WfC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:07, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Another note from the podcast: Matt Tieger says that Corey Burton is NOT the voice of Shockwave, but rather they got a sound-alike. Should this be worth mentioning? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Matt Tieger has also said that WFC is a direct prequel to the G1 cartoon, which is impossible on several levels given what we know. I think a lot of what he says is to get people to buy the game (SHOCK SHOCK I KNOW) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DS Version ==<br /> <br /> Source for all of these &quot;DS-only&quot; guys? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:34, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : People who've played the game. I myself have seen Kup and Dirge fairly early on in the Toys R Us demo version. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:38, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: After going through the game, Kup's actually not playable, never featured beyond his portrait appearing in the tutorial. Hot Rod, on the other hand, is in, though he's named Hot Shot. On the decepticon side, there's also Ramjet, Motormaster and Dragstrip--[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 05:46, 23 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Box Art==<br /> <br /> I have a picture of the Box Art, should I upload it, and if there's a version already here, shouldn't we use it as the Main Picture? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 13:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==<br /> <br /> == I know some missons! ==<br /> <br /> I resantly looked at campaign and misson desighn and it showed the names of some missons lets add that.<br /> :Where did you look at them? Were they officially released by Hasbro/the programming company? If not, then they are not eligible for inclusion on this wiki. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:54, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> yes,<br /> confirmed misson names are <br /> defend iacon,<br /> death of hope,<br /> the final guardian,<br /> fuel of war,<br /> iacon destroyed,<br /> false propaganda,<br /> decagon plaza<br /> these are a few confirmed missons<br /> :Where were they released? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:57, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Confirmed by high moon.<br /> :Where? When? Source, please? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> www.transformersgame.com go to media videos then behind the sceans campagn and misson desighn then when hes choosing a level he scrolls throgh these levels.<br /> <br /> ==James Remar==<br /> So, was this actually confirmed? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:57, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : I also would like to know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I as well, but I like Remar so I filled out his article anyway. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:21, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Given the fact you jumped all over me for that Ausgamers thing, I would have thought this article's creation would have caused some discussion. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:52, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Yeah well I figured with the article locked from anons... the WfC page would've been spared from unsourced statements. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:56, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Someone also added the WfC Starscream thing back onto [[Doug Parker]]'s article. Has THAT been confirmed? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 21:39, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::You know... seeing as how a few folks on the Allspark have snagged copies early, why not just beg them in the thread or PM or something if they can upload screenies/scans (whichever is applicable) of the credits for us? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:40, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::Never mind, now that I'm caught up over there, I see [[User:abates|abates]] already did that. XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:44, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-war-cybertron-discussion/309191-transformers-war-cybertron-cast-spoiler.html Spotted this over on TFW2005], FWIW. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Megatron's voiced by [[Fred Tatasciore]], apparently. (BRB, making new actor pages. :P) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 22:22, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::I will totally fist-pump if he is, because I freakin' called that in ''January''. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 03:49, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Profiles? ==<br /> <br /> Should we bother linking to all of the available official website character profiles, or are we just going to remove the existing links once the game comes out? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:07, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : They count as G1 canon so we should keep them linked to their G1 counterparts.--[[User:Primetime]] 12:06, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: That's not what Jeysie is talking about. She's talking about the links to the official WFC website. &quot;official website character profiles.&quot; Me, uh, I don't really have an opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: Yeah, Walky got it in one.<br /> ::: I guess my confusion was... I wasn't sure if the links were intended as information (in which case, might as well keep 'em), or just as sources for the character being in the game (in which case, once we get an official credits list from the game itself, said sources aren't really needed).<br /> ::: Not that I'm fussed either way... I just was itching to be consistent, and wasn't sure if that involved linking or deleting. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:14, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: For me, more info is almost always better. Link!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Name?==<br /> <br /> Is there a name for the guy I'm referring to as &quot;Giant Autobot tank thing that you fight before Zeta Prime&quot;? He has lines and stuff, but he didn't really look like anybody I recognized. (I refuse to call him by the name &quot;that guy who kicked my ass about a dozen times until I got lucky.&quot;) {{unsigned|Skyshock Thunderblast}} 09:22, 25 June 2010<br /> :I'm pretty sure he's just a generic. You fight a few more during the Decepticon campaign, and some more during the Autobot campaign. I know they call the Decepticon ones &quot;Destroyers,&quot; but I'm not sure what the Autobot ones are called. The loading-screen hints refer to them as, simply, Tanks. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I had assumed &quot;Destroyer&quot; was for both Autobots and Decepticons with that body-type. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:06, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I assumed that as well, but I was just going with what I knew for certain. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:27, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: I would SWEAR I heard one of the other Autobots refer to him by name. Well, Matt Tieger from Full Moon is at BC this year. Ask him? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:56, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::: Tanks for Autobots, Destroyers for Decepticons, according to the subtitles.<br /> == DS Profile Pictures ==<br /> <br /> Any use in screenshots for the characters as they appear in the DS Game? Will also be able to get console versions soon too.<br /> --[[User:Scatterlung|Scatterlung]] 14:22, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Who's the blue Autobot Tank? ==<br /> In the concept art (autobot recruits section, i believe) and the credits, there is a blue Autobot tank that clearly is not a blue version of Warpath, and looks like a completely different design. Is this a reference to a real Transformers character? ''(i don't know everything there is to know about transformers, so to those who do, please have mercy...)'' [[Special:Contributions/24.145.176.54|24.145.176.54]] 14:08, 26 June 2010 (EDT)unregistered contributor (has accounts on other wikis, but doesn't work on this one)<br /> :I'd say Twin Twist; while it's obviously not a jumpstarter, he's the closest thing to a blue and white Autobot tank I could find. The real mystery is why the Constructicon truck and this guy aren't in the game, since those faction/classes only have one mesh right now.<br /> ::I strongly doubt it's Twin Twist. Can you give us any more details about the character? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:59, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I think it's just the model for the generic Autobot tank soldiers you fight in the game. It may not actually be that color of blue (some of the character models aren't the final colors). --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::It certainly isn't, because there aren't any. Is there any real reason it can't be Twin Twist? I can post a pic, but he doesn't look much like anyone in particular (much as the purple/green constructicon doesn't either). Tanks (or heavy enough to be tanks) are rare enough on the Autobot side to narrow it down pretty quickly: the only guys that jump out at me are Twin Twist or animated Sentinel Prime. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pnakotus/tf/IMG_0550.jpg. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.127.90|118.208.127.90]]<br /> :I have the 360 game the guy is in the credits sinama. I think he may be a sneek peak at ultar magnus for this game but thats just my gess. {{unsigned|74.103.61.137}} 06:12, 28 June 2010<br /> :The PC version, having all the bot names apparent on characters' model files, names him as Scattershot.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:50, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Aha, so I was right. Because his head, colors, and altmode are 100% Cybertron Defense [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:54, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Maybe its time for a cleanup ==<br /> <br /> The game is out, the preview stuff is now irrelevant, and solid information regarding plot, characters, continuity etc is available. Devoting 33% of the article to a promotional webgame that hasn't told us anything for six months is ... strange.<br /> :I've worked a bit on the article today. Did a synopsis for the 360 version, but I don't own the Wii or DS ones. Someone else will have to help with those. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:27, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I'd suggest moving the Gallery to the end, using a more TFwiki standard arrangement of images/references/voice actors/etc, removing the useless 'Transmission Recovery' section, and expanding the references section (Primus, conversion cog, etc). [[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::Perhaps the 'Transmission Recovery' section could be split into a new article? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:24, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Sure, but the game isn't playable anymore and the video you 'recover' is just one of the trailers that are freely available.[[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::::Okay, the sections are shuffled to be more logical and in line with other articles. What happened to the plot synopsis? [[User:Pnakotus|Pnakotus]] 00:54, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Advice on writing up the weapons.==<br /> I think the game's variety of weapons deserves a write-up, but I'm not sure if I should make individual pages for them or just put them all on one page. Information for the Null Ray, for example, was already sort-of mentioned on the page for the G1 [[Null ray]]. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I went ahead and made a page for all of the weapons. Definitely needs pics, though... --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 17:01, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I think they really need to have individual pages - the list page doesn't really fit in with how we do things. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Can we lock these WFC articles down? ==<br /> <br /> Or else I'm going to be spending the rest of my time on the wiki attempting to write WFC articles only to have to clean up after anon users (and relatively new members who don't know how to write in our style). Then I will give up because the articles are now too much work to get up to standards, video gamers who edited these articles have amazingly short attention spans and have left, and I'm the only one left who edits these things, as seen here last year: [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)]] *cries* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:29, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Which ones? just the main game articles? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:19, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Probably for the best. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:01, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Hey, I can still edit these things too! I need to...uh...actually finish the game first, though. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:38, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == pages ==<br /> <br /> When are we going to create more character pages(e.g.Soundwave,Air Raid)?Just wondering because for some reason instead of a page for Ironhide we have one for scattershot who isn't released yet.</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* G1? */</p> <hr /> <div>== G1 Characters ==<br /> <br /> Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> :There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?<br /> :Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say &quot;assumption&quot; isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)<br /> :::The TFW2005 interview states it's &quot;not connected to any particular generation&quot; and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)<br /> ::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::::::How about &quot;WFC&quot;? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> :::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using &quot;WFC&quot; to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)<br /> :::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview &quot;Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe.&quot; The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying &quot;Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not,&quot; or vice-versa &quot;anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?&quot; A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. &quot;Its prehistory is very slightly different&quot; will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than &quot;influenced by it&quot; I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> <br /> To me, this seems every bit as G1 as War Within - Yeah it branches out into it's own story but it's hard to deny that this isn't just as G1 as DW or IDW comics given the use of characters and story telling style. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}} 08:55, 28 June 2010<br /> <br /> == The New trailer ==<br /> <br /> should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> preety much.<br /> <br /> == Logos ==<br /> <br /> I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Starscream? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the &quot;Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault&quot; picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010<br /> Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]<br /> ::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::: I'd say more &quot;Classics-ized&quot; versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Fresh trailer guys ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage<br /> <br /> Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...<br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Third link in &quot;external links&quot; at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Character Sources?==<br /> I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> : For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Release date==<br /> Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)<br /> sweetness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Motormaster ==<br /> <br /> Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version: <br /> http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg<br /> <br /> Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game. <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html<br /> : I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Interview and more gameplay and footage ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story<br /> <br /> Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.<br /> <br /> -Aaron Archer<br /> <br /> -It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.<br /> <br /> -Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?<br /> <br /> -And much more...<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> <br /> == No PSP option... ==<br /> <br /> Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I think its a &quot;revised&quot;<br /> backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Voice actor thing ==<br /> <br /> I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending &quot;false&quot; information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.<br /> :So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with &quot;AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego&quot; and &quot;Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]&quot;. Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not &quot;We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia.&quot; --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with &quot;idiots&quot; over &quot;cover-up&quot;. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> According to IMDB, Soundwave is played by [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0071818/ Jeff Bennet]. Is this legit enough for this wiki? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:22, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Nuh-uh. IMDB is like Wiki where any user can edit the content, be it actual or junk. I rather wait till an official announcement from either Activision or High Moon themselves. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:54, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == New Characters' pages? ==<br /> VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?<br /> : We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)<br /> <br /> VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> <br /> :The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out &quot;Oops, they're part of G1&quot; and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> :I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jazz? ==<br /> <br /> The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave<br /> <br /> == Image Captions/Quotes ==<br /> <br /> So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?<br /> <br /> And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.<br /> <br /> ''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''<br /> <br /> Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved<br /> <br /> [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)<br /> :By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same &quot;gritty dark&quot; feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: &quot;Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little.&quot; Omega Supreme's picture: &quot;Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off.&quot; Megatron: &quot;I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered.&quot; Bumblebee: &quot;Little people first!&quot;<br /> ::For Starscream joining the Decepticons, &quot;What would you have your Arbiter do?&quot; [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 00:36, 06 June 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == New characters ==<br /> <br /> Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the &quot;embargo&quot; pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream_%28WFC%29|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[Special:Contributions/98.204.17.1|98.204.17.1]] 17:45, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Short Answer: No. Long Answer: Well, probably not, they're almost crtainly actual characters in the story version of the game from what we've seen, but no one will know 100% for sure until the game is out and we play through and see. But still, likely, no. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:00, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==<br /> <br /> [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&amp;postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::&quot;Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS...&quot; So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Picked my copy up and it is rather a bit more close to Exodus from the reviews elsewhere. While I don't have a copy of Exodus on hand yet, the charges against Megatron that includes bombing Six Lasers Over Cybertron and kidnapping Sentinel Prime is mentioned. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:20, 24 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Feel free to edit the article I set up at my [[User:Lonegamer78/Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|sandbox]] until we can figure out where to place the comic's article. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == For now... ==<br /> <br /> ...I'm deciding WfC is classified as a Primax-cluster universe. Now that the toys are sort of out, we really need to stick them ''somewhere''. And there's been nothing indicated that its universe isn't terribly G1y. This could change in the future as we come to understand its universe better, but we can move it then. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 2 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm beginning to wonder if the &quot;G1 continuity family&quot; is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't &quot;terribly G1y&quot; in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Division by Game? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> At some point soon are we going to need to give this page a major overhaul? From the sounds of it the Wii and DS versions are going to have signifigant enough character and play differnces that talking about it all as &quot;one single game&quot; would likely become counterproductive. Don't have the time right now to check but isn't that how we've handled multiplatform games in the past? A 360/PS3 section, a Wii section and a DS section? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:15, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I know there are two seperate articles for the PS1 and N64 versions of the Beast Wars Transmetal fighting games. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:54, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::The games actually have different names, as well. The Wii version is called Transformers: Cybertron Adventures. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 23:55, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Usually there's seperate pages for different versions of the games, there'll probably be one for this game too. Might be better to wait until they're out though. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:25, 11 June 2010 (GMT)<br /> <br /> == Matt Tieger Says... ==<br /> I am, right now, listening to a Kotaku podcast where they are interviewing Matt Tieger, and he says War for Cybertron is &quot;like a prequel to G1.&quot; http://ca.kotaku.com/5559654/its-a-prime-time-to-talk-transformers<br /> So, is this confirmation of being G1, or do we still wait until the game or official fiction is released? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:01, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I think the keywords is that he used &quot;like a&quot; on describing WfC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:07, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Another note from the podcast: Matt Tieger says that Corey Burton is NOT the voice of Shockwave, but rather they got a sound-alike. Should this be worth mentioning? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Matt Tieger has also said that WFC is a direct prequel to the G1 cartoon, which is impossible on several levels given what we know. I think a lot of what he says is to get people to buy the game (SHOCK SHOCK I KNOW) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DS Version ==<br /> <br /> Source for all of these &quot;DS-only&quot; guys? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:34, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : People who've played the game. I myself have seen Kup and Dirge fairly early on in the Toys R Us demo version. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:38, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: After going through the game, Kup's actually not playable, never featured beyond his portrait appearing in the tutorial. Hot Rod, on the other hand, is in, though he's named Hot Shot. On the decepticon side, there's also Ramjet, Motormaster and Dragstrip--[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 05:46, 23 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Box Art==<br /> <br /> I have a picture of the Box Art, should I upload it, and if there's a version already here, shouldn't we use it as the Main Picture? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 13:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==<br /> <br /> == I know some missons! ==<br /> <br /> I resantly looked at campaign and misson desighn and it showed the names of some missons lets add that.<br /> :Where did you look at them? Were they officially released by Hasbro/the programming company? If not, then they are not eligible for inclusion on this wiki. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:54, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> yes,<br /> confirmed misson names are <br /> defend iacon,<br /> death of hope,<br /> the final guardian,<br /> fuel of war,<br /> iacon destroyed,<br /> false propaganda,<br /> decagon plaza<br /> these are a few confirmed missons<br /> :Where were they released? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:57, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Confirmed by high moon.<br /> :Where? When? Source, please? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> www.transformersgame.com go to media videos then behind the sceans campagn and misson desighn then when hes choosing a level he scrolls throgh these levels.<br /> <br /> ==James Remar==<br /> So, was this actually confirmed? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:57, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : I also would like to know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I as well, but I like Remar so I filled out his article anyway. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:21, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Given the fact you jumped all over me for that Ausgamers thing, I would have thought this article's creation would have caused some discussion. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:52, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Yeah well I figured with the article locked from anons... the WfC page would've been spared from unsourced statements. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:56, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Someone also added the WfC Starscream thing back onto [[Doug Parker]]'s article. Has THAT been confirmed? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 21:39, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::You know... seeing as how a few folks on the Allspark have snagged copies early, why not just beg them in the thread or PM or something if they can upload screenies/scans (whichever is applicable) of the credits for us? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:40, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::Never mind, now that I'm caught up over there, I see [[User:abates|abates]] already did that. XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:44, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-war-cybertron-discussion/309191-transformers-war-cybertron-cast-spoiler.html Spotted this over on TFW2005], FWIW. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Megatron's voiced by [[Fred Tatasciore]], apparently. (BRB, making new actor pages. :P) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 22:22, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::I will totally fist-pump if he is, because I freakin' called that in ''January''. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 03:49, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Profiles? ==<br /> <br /> Should we bother linking to all of the available official website character profiles, or are we just going to remove the existing links once the game comes out? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:07, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : They count as G1 canon so we should keep them linked to their G1 counterparts.--[[User:Primetime]] 12:06, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: That's not what Jeysie is talking about. She's talking about the links to the official WFC website. &quot;official website character profiles.&quot; Me, uh, I don't really have an opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: Yeah, Walky got it in one.<br /> ::: I guess my confusion was... I wasn't sure if the links were intended as information (in which case, might as well keep 'em), or just as sources for the character being in the game (in which case, once we get an official credits list from the game itself, said sources aren't really needed).<br /> ::: Not that I'm fussed either way... I just was itching to be consistent, and wasn't sure if that involved linking or deleting. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:14, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: For me, more info is almost always better. Link!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Name?==<br /> <br /> Is there a name for the guy I'm referring to as &quot;Giant Autobot tank thing that you fight before Zeta Prime&quot;? He has lines and stuff, but he didn't really look like anybody I recognized. (I refuse to call him by the name &quot;that guy who kicked my ass about a dozen times until I got lucky.&quot;) {{unsigned|Skyshock Thunderblast}} 09:22, 25 June 2010<br /> :I'm pretty sure he's just a generic. You fight a few more during the Decepticon campaign, and some more during the Autobot campaign. I know they call the Decepticon ones &quot;Destroyers,&quot; but I'm not sure what the Autobot ones are called. The loading-screen hints refer to them as, simply, Tanks. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I had assumed &quot;Destroyer&quot; was for both Autobots and Decepticons with that body-type. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:06, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I assumed that as well, but I was just going with what I knew for certain. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:27, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: I would SWEAR I heard one of the other Autobots refer to him by name. Well, Matt Tieger from Full Moon is at BC this year. Ask him? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:56, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::: Tanks for Autobots, Destroyers for Decepticons, according to the subtitles.<br /> == DS Profile Pictures ==<br /> <br /> Any use in screenshots for the characters as they appear in the DS Game? Will also be able to get console versions soon too.<br /> --[[User:Scatterlung|Scatterlung]] 14:22, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Who's the blue Autobot Tank? ==<br /> In the concept art (autobot recruits section, i believe) and the credits, there is a blue Autobot tank that clearly is not a blue version of Warpath, and looks like a completely different design. Is this a reference to a real Transformers character? ''(i don't know everything there is to know about transformers, so to those who do, please have mercy...)'' [[Special:Contributions/24.145.176.54|24.145.176.54]] 14:08, 26 June 2010 (EDT)unregistered contributor (has accounts on other wikis, but doesn't work on this one)<br /> :I'd say Twin Twist; while it's obviously not a jumpstarter, he's the closest thing to a blue and white Autobot tank I could find. The real mystery is why the Constructicon truck and this guy aren't in the game, since those faction/classes only have one mesh right now.<br /> ::I strongly doubt it's Twin Twist. Can you give us any more details about the character? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:59, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I think it's just the model for the generic Autobot tank soldiers you fight in the game. It may not actually be that color of blue (some of the character models aren't the final colors). --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::It certainly isn't, because there aren't any. Is there any real reason it can't be Twin Twist? I can post a pic, but he doesn't look much like anyone in particular (much as the purple/green constructicon doesn't either). Tanks (or heavy enough to be tanks) are rare enough on the Autobot side to narrow it down pretty quickly: the only guys that jump out at me are Twin Twist or animated Sentinel Prime. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pnakotus/tf/IMG_0550.jpg. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.127.90|118.208.127.90]]<br /> :I have the 360 game the guy is in the credits sinama. I think he may be a sneek peak at ultar magnus for this game but thats just my gess. {{unsigned|74.103.61.137}} 06:12, 28 June 2010<br /> :The PC version, having all the bot names apparent on characters' model files, names him as Scattershot.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:50, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Aha, so I was right. Because his head, colors, and altmode are 100% Cybertron Defense [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:54, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Maybe its time for a cleanup ==<br /> <br /> The game is out, the preview stuff is now irrelevant, and solid information regarding plot, characters, continuity etc is available. Devoting 33% of the article to a promotional webgame that hasn't told us anything for six months is ... strange.<br /> :I've worked a bit on the article today. Did a synopsis for the 360 version, but I don't own the Wii or DS ones. Someone else will have to help with those. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:27, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I'd suggest moving the Gallery to the end, using a more TFwiki standard arrangement of images/references/voice actors/etc, removing the useless 'Transmission Recovery' section, and expanding the references section (Primus, conversion cog, etc). [[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::Perhaps the 'Transmission Recovery' section could be split into a new article? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:24, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Sure, but the game isn't playable anymore and the video you 'recover' is just one of the trailers that are freely available.[[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::::Okay, the sections are shuffled to be more logical and in line with other articles. What happened to the plot synopsis? [[User:Pnakotus|Pnakotus]] 00:54, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Advice on writing up the weapons.==<br /> I think the game's variety of weapons deserves a write-up, but I'm not sure if I should make individual pages for them or just put them all on one page. Information for the Null Ray, for example, was already sort-of mentioned on the page for the G1 [[Null ray]]. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I went ahead and made a page for all of the weapons. Definitely needs pics, though... --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 17:01, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I think they really need to have individual pages - the list page doesn't really fit in with how we do things. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Can we lock these WFC articles down? ==<br /> <br /> Or else I'm going to be spending the rest of my time on the wiki attempting to write WFC articles only to have to clean up after anon users (and relatively new members who don't know how to write in our style). Then I will give up because the articles are now too much work to get up to standards, video gamers who edited these articles have amazingly short attention spans and have left, and I'm the only one left who edits these things, as seen here last year: [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)]] *cries* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:29, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Which ones? just the main game articles? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:19, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Probably for the best. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:01, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Hey, I can still edit these things too! I need to...uh...actually finish the game first, though. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:38, 30 June 2010 (EDT)</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* G1? */</p> <hr /> <div>== G1 Characters ==<br /> <br /> Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> :There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?<br /> :Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say &quot;assumption&quot; isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)<br /> :::The TFW2005 interview states it's &quot;not connected to any particular generation&quot; and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)<br /> ::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::::::How about &quot;WFC&quot;? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> :::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using &quot;WFC&quot; to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)<br /> :::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview &quot;Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe.&quot; The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying &quot;Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not,&quot; or vice-versa &quot;anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?&quot; A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. &quot;Its prehistory is very slightly different&quot; will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than &quot;influenced by it&quot; I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> <br /> To me, this seems every bit as G1 as War Within - Yeah it branches out into it's own story but it's hard to deny that this isn't just as G1 as DW or IDW comics given the use of characters and story telling style. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}} 08:55, 28 June 2010<br /> <br /> == The New trailer ==<br /> <br /> should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> preety much.<br /> <br /> == Logos ==<br /> <br /> I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Starscream? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the &quot;Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault&quot; picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010<br /> Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]<br /> ::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::: I'd say more &quot;Classics-ized&quot; versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Fresh trailer guys ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage<br /> <br /> Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...<br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Third link in &quot;external links&quot; at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Character Sources?==<br /> I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> : For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Release date==<br /> Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)<br /> sweetness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Motormaster ==<br /> <br /> Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version: <br /> http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg<br /> <br /> Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game. <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html<br /> : I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Interview and more gameplay and footage ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story<br /> <br /> Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.<br /> <br /> -Aaron Archer<br /> <br /> -It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.<br /> <br /> -Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?<br /> <br /> -And much more...<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> <br /> == No PSP option... ==<br /> <br /> Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I think its a &quot;revised&quot;<br /> backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Voice actor thing ==<br /> <br /> I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending &quot;false&quot; information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.<br /> :So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with &quot;AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego&quot; and &quot;Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]&quot;. Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not &quot;We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia.&quot; --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with &quot;idiots&quot; over &quot;cover-up&quot;. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> According to IMDB, Soundwave is played by [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0071818/ Jeff Bennet]. Is this legit enough for this wiki? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:22, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Nuh-uh. IMDB is like Wiki where any user can edit the content, be it actual or junk. I rather wait till an official announcement from either Activision or High Moon themselves. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:54, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == New Characters' pages? ==<br /> VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?<br /> : We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)<br /> <br /> VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> <br /> :The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out &quot;Oops, they're part of G1&quot; and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> :I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jazz? ==<br /> <br /> The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave<br /> <br /> == Image Captions/Quotes ==<br /> <br /> So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?<br /> <br /> And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.<br /> <br /> ''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''<br /> <br /> Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved<br /> <br /> [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)<br /> :By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same &quot;gritty dark&quot; feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: &quot;Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little.&quot; Omega Supreme's picture: &quot;Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off.&quot; Megatron: &quot;I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered.&quot; Bumblebee: &quot;Little people first!&quot;<br /> ::For Starscream joining the Decepticons, &quot;What would you have your Arbiter do?&quot; [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 00:36, 06 June 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == New characters ==<br /> <br /> Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the &quot;embargo&quot; pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream_%28WFC%29|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[Special:Contributions/98.204.17.1|98.204.17.1]] 17:45, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Short Answer: No. Long Answer: Well, probably not, they're almost crtainly actual characters in the story version of the game from what we've seen, but no one will know 100% for sure until the game is out and we play through and see. But still, likely, no. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:00, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==<br /> <br /> [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&amp;postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::&quot;Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS...&quot; So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Picked my copy up and it is rather a bit more close to Exodus from the reviews elsewhere. While I don't have a copy of Exodus on hand yet, the charges against Megatron that includes bombing Six Lasers Over Cybertron and kidnapping Sentinel Prime is mentioned. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:20, 24 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Feel free to edit the article I set up at my [[User:Lonegamer78/Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|sandbox]] until we can figure out where to place the comic's article. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == For now... ==<br /> <br /> ...I'm deciding WfC is classified as a Primax-cluster universe. Now that the toys are sort of out, we really need to stick them ''somewhere''. And there's been nothing indicated that its universe isn't terribly G1y. This could change in the future as we come to understand its universe better, but we can move it then. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 2 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm beginning to wonder if the &quot;G1 continuity family&quot; is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't &quot;terribly G1y&quot; in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Division by Game? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> At some point soon are we going to need to give this page a major overhaul? From the sounds of it the Wii and DS versions are going to have signifigant enough character and play differnces that talking about it all as &quot;one single game&quot; would likely become counterproductive. Don't have the time right now to check but isn't that how we've handled multiplatform games in the past? A 360/PS3 section, a Wii section and a DS section? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:15, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I know there are two seperate articles for the PS1 and N64 versions of the Beast Wars Transmetal fighting games. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:54, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::The games actually have different names, as well. The Wii version is called Transformers: Cybertron Adventures. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 23:55, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Usually there's seperate pages for different versions of the games, there'll probably be one for this game too. Might be better to wait until they're out though. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:25, 11 June 2010 (GMT)<br /> <br /> == Matt Tieger Says... ==<br /> I am, right now, listening to a Kotaku podcast where they are interviewing Matt Tieger, and he says War for Cybertron is &quot;like a prequel to G1.&quot; http://ca.kotaku.com/5559654/its-a-prime-time-to-talk-transformers<br /> So, is this confirmation of being G1, or do we still wait until the game or official fiction is released? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:01, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I think the keywords is that he used &quot;like a&quot; on describing WfC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:07, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Another note from the podcast: Matt Tieger says that Corey Burton is NOT the voice of Shockwave, but rather they got a sound-alike. Should this be worth mentioning? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Matt Tieger has also said that WFC is a direct prequel to the G1 cartoon, which is impossible on several levels given what we know. I think a lot of what he says is to get people to buy the game (SHOCK SHOCK I KNOW) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DS Version ==<br /> <br /> Source for all of these &quot;DS-only&quot; guys? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:34, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : People who've played the game. I myself have seen Kup and Dirge fairly early on in the Toys R Us demo version. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:38, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: After going through the game, Kup's actually not playable, never featured beyond his portrait appearing in the tutorial. Hot Rod, on the other hand, is in, though he's named Hot Shot. On the decepticon side, there's also Ramjet, Motormaster and Dragstrip--[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 05:46, 23 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Box Art==<br /> <br /> I have a picture of the Box Art, should I upload it, and if there's a version already here, shouldn't we use it as the Main Picture? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 13:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==<br /> <br /> == I know some missons! ==<br /> <br /> I resantly looked at campaign and misson desighn and it showed the names of some missons lets add that.<br /> :Where did you look at them? Were they officially released by Hasbro/the programming company? If not, then they are not eligible for inclusion on this wiki. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:54, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> yes,<br /> confirmed misson names are <br /> defend iacon,<br /> death of hope,<br /> the final guardian,<br /> fuel of war,<br /> iacon destroyed,<br /> false propaganda,<br /> decagon plaza<br /> these are a few confirmed missons<br /> :Where were they released? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:57, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Confirmed by high moon.<br /> :Where? When? Source, please? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> www.transformersgame.com go to media videos then behind the sceans campagn and misson desighn then when hes choosing a level he scrolls throgh these levels.<br /> <br /> ==James Remar==<br /> So, was this actually confirmed? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:57, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : I also would like to know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I as well, but I like Remar so I filled out his article anyway. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:21, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Given the fact you jumped all over me for that Ausgamers thing, I would have thought this article's creation would have caused some discussion. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:52, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Yeah well I figured with the article locked from anons... the WfC page would've been spared from unsourced statements. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:56, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Someone also added the WfC Starscream thing back onto [[Doug Parker]]'s article. Has THAT been confirmed? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 21:39, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::You know... seeing as how a few folks on the Allspark have snagged copies early, why not just beg them in the thread or PM or something if they can upload screenies/scans (whichever is applicable) of the credits for us? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:40, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::Never mind, now that I'm caught up over there, I see [[User:abates|abates]] already did that. XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:44, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-war-cybertron-discussion/309191-transformers-war-cybertron-cast-spoiler.html Spotted this over on TFW2005], FWIW. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Megatron's voiced by [[Fred Tatasciore]], apparently. (BRB, making new actor pages. :P) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 22:22, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::I will totally fist-pump if he is, because I freakin' called that in ''January''. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 03:49, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Profiles? ==<br /> <br /> Should we bother linking to all of the available official website character profiles, or are we just going to remove the existing links once the game comes out? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:07, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : They count as G1 canon so we should keep them linked to their G1 counterparts.--[[User:Primetime]] 12:06, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: That's not what Jeysie is talking about. She's talking about the links to the official WFC website. &quot;official website character profiles.&quot; Me, uh, I don't really have an opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: Yeah, Walky got it in one.<br /> ::: I guess my confusion was... I wasn't sure if the links were intended as information (in which case, might as well keep 'em), or just as sources for the character being in the game (in which case, once we get an official credits list from the game itself, said sources aren't really needed).<br /> ::: Not that I'm fussed either way... I just was itching to be consistent, and wasn't sure if that involved linking or deleting. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:14, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: For me, more info is almost always better. Link!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Name?==<br /> <br /> Is there a name for the guy I'm referring to as &quot;Giant Autobot tank thing that you fight before Zeta Prime&quot;? He has lines and stuff, but he didn't really look like anybody I recognized. (I refuse to call him by the name &quot;that guy who kicked my ass about a dozen times until I got lucky.&quot;) {{unsigned|Skyshock Thunderblast}} 09:22, 25 June 2010<br /> :I'm pretty sure he's just a generic. You fight a few more during the Decepticon campaign, and some more during the Autobot campaign. I know they call the Decepticon ones &quot;Destroyers,&quot; but I'm not sure what the Autobot ones are called. The loading-screen hints refer to them as, simply, Tanks. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I had assumed &quot;Destroyer&quot; was for both Autobots and Decepticons with that body-type. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:06, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I assumed that as well, but I was just going with what I knew for certain. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:27, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: I would SWEAR I heard one of the other Autobots refer to him by name. Well, Matt Tieger from Full Moon is at BC this year. Ask him? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:56, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::: Tanks for Autobots, Destroyers for Decepticons, according to the subtitles.<br /> == DS Profile Pictures ==<br /> <br /> Any use in screenshots for the characters as they appear in the DS Game? Will also be able to get console versions soon too.<br /> --[[User:Scatterlung|Scatterlung]] 14:22, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Who's the blue Autobot Tank? ==<br /> In the concept art (autobot recruits section, i believe) and the credits, there is a blue Autobot tank that clearly is not a blue version of Warpath, and looks like a completely different design. Is this a reference to a real Transformers character? ''(i don't know everything there is to know about transformers, so to those who do, please have mercy...)'' [[Special:Contributions/24.145.176.54|24.145.176.54]] 14:08, 26 June 2010 (EDT)unregistered contributor (has accounts on other wikis, but doesn't work on this one)<br /> :I'd say Twin Twist; while it's obviously not a jumpstarter, he's the closest thing to a blue and white Autobot tank I could find. The real mystery is why the Constructicon truck and this guy aren't in the game, since those faction/classes only have one mesh right now.<br /> ::I strongly doubt it's Twin Twist. Can you give us any more details about the character? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:59, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I think it's just the model for the generic Autobot tank soldiers you fight in the game. It may not actually be that color of blue (some of the character models aren't the final colors). --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::It certainly isn't, because there aren't any. Is there any real reason it can't be Twin Twist? I can post a pic, but he doesn't look much like anyone in particular (much as the purple/green constructicon doesn't either). Tanks (or heavy enough to be tanks) are rare enough on the Autobot side to narrow it down pretty quickly: the only guys that jump out at me are Twin Twist or animated Sentinel Prime. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pnakotus/tf/IMG_0550.jpg. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.127.90|118.208.127.90]]<br /> :I have the 360 game the guy is in the credits sinama. I think he may be a sneek peak at ultar magnus for this game but thats just my gess. {{unsigned|74.103.61.137}} 06:12, 28 June 2010<br /> :The PC version, having all the bot names apparent on characters' model files, names him as Scattershot.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:50, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Aha, so I was right. Because his head, colors, and altmode are 100% Cybertron Defense [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:54, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Maybe its time for a cleanup ==<br /> <br /> The game is out, the preview stuff is now irrelevant, and solid information regarding plot, characters, continuity etc is available. Devoting 33% of the article to a promotional webgame that hasn't told us anything for six months is ... strange.<br /> :I've worked a bit on the article today. Did a synopsis for the 360 version, but I don't own the Wii or DS ones. Someone else will have to help with those. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:27, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I'd suggest moving the Gallery to the end, using a more TFwiki standard arrangement of images/references/voice actors/etc, removing the useless 'Transmission Recovery' section, and expanding the references section (Primus, conversion cog, etc). [[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::Perhaps the 'Transmission Recovery' section could be split into a new article? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:24, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Sure, but the game isn't playable anymore and the video you 'recover' is just one of the trailers that are freely available.[[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::::Okay, the sections are shuffled to be more logical and in line with other articles. What happened to the plot synopsis? [[User:Pnakotus|Pnakotus]] 00:54, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Advice on writing up the weapons.==<br /> I think the game's variety of weapons deserves a write-up, but I'm not sure if I should make individual pages for them or just put them all on one page. Information for the Null Ray, for example, was already sort-of mentioned on the page for the G1 [[Null ray]]. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I went ahead and made a page for all of the weapons. Definitely needs pics, though... --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 17:01, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I think they really need to have individual pages - the list page doesn't really fit in with how we do things. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Can we lock these WFC articles down? ==<br /> <br /> Or else I'm going to be spending the rest of my time on the wiki attempting to write WFC articles only to have to clean up after anon users (and relatively new members who don't know how to write in our style). Then I will give up because the articles are now too much work to get up to standards, video gamers who edited these articles have amazingly short attention spans and have left, and I'm the only one left who edits these things, as seen here last year: [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)]] *cries* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:29, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Which ones? just the main game articles? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:19, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Probably for the best. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:01, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Hey, I can still edit these things too! I need to...uh...actually finish the game first, though. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:38, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == G1? ==<br /> <br /> This game SHOULD NOT be connected to the prime series.WHICH IS WHY HASBRO PUT THIS AS CANNON TO THE G1 series.you can not tell me that the storline for the game is the same as the exodus comic book.-- [[user:Primetime]] july 6,2010 (EDT)<br /> :We might take you more seriously if you're not screaming at us and misspelling &quot;canon&quot;. Just a suggestion. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:39, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, Exodus isn't a comic book, and it's marketed as a tie-in novel to the game. So for all intents and purposes it is the novelization of the game, even if it's not exactly the same.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :They did? When? Where? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:49, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> 1:I'm not yelling,I just typed it that way.2:It's a tie-in comic?3:This wiki hardly listens to other users to the point where i should be yelling.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:57,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Exodus mentions the video game in its trade dress in several places. Also, as I said, it's not even a comic.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:16, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> hmmmmm, so which one is the g1 prequel because high moon sayed their storyline was a g1 prequel(read interviews).And they came out first and hasbro is just trying to jazz things up with things like Exodus and the prime cartoon(which is sayed to be a movie prequel but I don't know).--[[Primetime|Primetime]] 01:36,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Exodus was released on the same day as War for Cybertron. Because, again, it's a marketing tie-in.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:40, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> Thats great! now like I sayed before is it G1 liked the interviews sayed or not like some of you keep saying(I mean the game).--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:26 7, July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :It's the backstory for the new continuity that the Prime cartoon on the Hub will share. This was confirmed at BotCon. The new continuity borrows elements from several past ones, including a movie-style AllSpark, a series of space bridges leading to Cybertronian colonies a la Galaxy Force/Cybertron, the Elite Guard from Animated, the Wreckers, and a great many other nods to previous work. It is not exclusively G1 that is referenced.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:37, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::NO IT IS NOT G1. STOP INTERPRETING STUFF HIGH MOON STUDIOS SAID SO THE GAME WOULD SELL BETTER AS WORD OF GOD. <br /> ::I had to get that out of my system. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 02:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :If it's G1, why is there an AllSpark cube? Why is Bumblebee mute? And what's Gigantion doing there? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 09:46, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, Thy, that's all stuff from the Exodus novel, not WFC proper. They're tied together, but the original poster was only speaking about the game. (Annoyingly enough, Bumblebee loses his voice in the novel before the events of the game (loosely) take place, making Bumblebee's talking kind of, you know, another fun discrepancy.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:48, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> SOOO doesn't that mean the Exodus Novel and the game are not related due to the MAJOR differences in the storyline(because honestly the game seems REALLY like its a G1 prequel).And if you disagree explain why bumblebee can suddenly talk again and he is just meeting optimus and ratchet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:00,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> : If it fits with G1 how come the designs are different, Dinobots, Combaticons and Aerialbots are present, the origin of Optimus is different, the origin of the Matrix is different, the way they leave the planet is different etc. etc. etc. etc.? {{unsigned|201.88.66.127|12:16, 7 July 2010}}<br /> ::That's been done all the time. The cartoon characters had different Cybertronian forms than the Dreamwave characters, but they're both G1. Plus, the Dinobots, Stunticons et al were in the War Within. Still, this game isn't G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 12:27, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Those wouldn't keep it out of G1, but DO prevent it from being the backstory to the G1 toon. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:36, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> : Inconsistencies in story do not magically make Exodus anything other than a marketing tie-in to the game. They are intended to go together. If you likewise choose to ignore the fact that Hasbro have said that this will continue on into Prime and beyond, I don't know what more we can get out of this discussion.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 12:26, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> Okay High moon is STILL saying their game is a prequel to G1 even after they released the game.We SHOULD make new WFC pages,or link them back to G1.Forget hasbro right now I'm talking about High moon and their intentions for their game.No prime or Exodus.---[[Primetime|Primetime]] 1:14, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :WFC is part of the backstory for TF:Prime. It seems like it can apply to G1 too because TF:Prime is deliberately mirroring a lot of G1, especially in past setup. But they're not the same and we will not treat them the same. Unless High Moon is also writing the next cartoon, that's that. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 13:25, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::&quot;Forget Hasbro&quot;? You do realize that Hasbro has the final say on things, not High Moon. High Moon's statements are simply marketing, not fiction. Of course, why we are bothering to try to explain this to someone whose grasp of English does not include the simple word &quot;said&quot; is beyond me. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:36, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::This is either a troll or someone who does not understand English. (Who, BTW, happens to share his username with a notorious Wikipedia troll/vandal) Either way this is getting ridiculous. High Moon DOES NOT have the final say on this stuff, their statement about WFC being G1 WAS intended to get more people to buy the game, YOU ARE AN ANNOYING LITTLE MAN, Primetime. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:54, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> (sighs)Okay look,lets drop this WHOLE topic.I might have misspelled on ACCIDENT and generally I was asking a question that you guys kept dodging.I'm not a troll(never heard of the ''notorious troll on wikia before that you're talking about'')so lets leave it alone and keep igonoring my question and go on with our lives.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:12, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :We've answered your question. Repeatedly. This IS NOT a prequel to the G1 toon, because Hasbro says it isn't. The hyperbole and metaphor used by High Moon as marketing strategy does not enter into things. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:24, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> OOOKKKKAAAYYY I understand, now stop Talking about it.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 14:35, 7 July 2010 (EDT)</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* G1? */</p> <hr /> <div>== G1 Characters ==<br /> <br /> Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> :There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?<br /> :Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say &quot;assumption&quot; isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)<br /> :::The TFW2005 interview states it's &quot;not connected to any particular generation&quot; and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)<br /> ::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::::::How about &quot;WFC&quot;? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> :::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using &quot;WFC&quot; to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)<br /> :::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview &quot;Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe.&quot; The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying &quot;Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not,&quot; or vice-versa &quot;anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?&quot; A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. &quot;Its prehistory is very slightly different&quot; will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than &quot;influenced by it&quot; I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> <br /> To me, this seems every bit as G1 as War Within - Yeah it branches out into it's own story but it's hard to deny that this isn't just as G1 as DW or IDW comics given the use of characters and story telling style. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}} 08:55, 28 June 2010<br /> <br /> == The New trailer ==<br /> <br /> should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> preety much.<br /> <br /> == Logos ==<br /> <br /> I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Starscream? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the &quot;Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault&quot; picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010<br /> Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]<br /> ::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::: I'd say more &quot;Classics-ized&quot; versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Fresh trailer guys ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage<br /> <br /> Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...<br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Third link in &quot;external links&quot; at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Character Sources?==<br /> I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> : For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Release date==<br /> Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)<br /> sweetness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Motormaster ==<br /> <br /> Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version: <br /> http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg<br /> <br /> Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game. <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html<br /> : I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Interview and more gameplay and footage ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story<br /> <br /> Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.<br /> <br /> -Aaron Archer<br /> <br /> -It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.<br /> <br /> -Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?<br /> <br /> -And much more...<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> <br /> == No PSP option... ==<br /> <br /> Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I think its a &quot;revised&quot;<br /> backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Voice actor thing ==<br /> <br /> I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending &quot;false&quot; information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.<br /> :So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with &quot;AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego&quot; and &quot;Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]&quot;. Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not &quot;We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia.&quot; --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with &quot;idiots&quot; over &quot;cover-up&quot;. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> According to IMDB, Soundwave is played by [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0071818/ Jeff Bennet]. Is this legit enough for this wiki? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:22, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Nuh-uh. IMDB is like Wiki where any user can edit the content, be it actual or junk. I rather wait till an official announcement from either Activision or High Moon themselves. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:54, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == New Characters' pages? ==<br /> VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?<br /> : We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)<br /> <br /> VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> <br /> :The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out &quot;Oops, they're part of G1&quot; and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> :I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jazz? ==<br /> <br /> The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave<br /> <br /> == Image Captions/Quotes ==<br /> <br /> So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?<br /> <br /> And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.<br /> <br /> ''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''<br /> <br /> Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved<br /> <br /> [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)<br /> :By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same &quot;gritty dark&quot; feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: &quot;Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little.&quot; Omega Supreme's picture: &quot;Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off.&quot; Megatron: &quot;I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered.&quot; Bumblebee: &quot;Little people first!&quot;<br /> ::For Starscream joining the Decepticons, &quot;What would you have your Arbiter do?&quot; [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 00:36, 06 June 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == New characters ==<br /> <br /> Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the &quot;embargo&quot; pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream_%28WFC%29|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[Special:Contributions/98.204.17.1|98.204.17.1]] 17:45, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Short Answer: No. Long Answer: Well, probably not, they're almost crtainly actual characters in the story version of the game from what we've seen, but no one will know 100% for sure until the game is out and we play through and see. But still, likely, no. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:00, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==<br /> <br /> [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&amp;postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::&quot;Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS...&quot; So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Picked my copy up and it is rather a bit more close to Exodus from the reviews elsewhere. While I don't have a copy of Exodus on hand yet, the charges against Megatron that includes bombing Six Lasers Over Cybertron and kidnapping Sentinel Prime is mentioned. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:20, 24 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Feel free to edit the article I set up at my [[User:Lonegamer78/Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|sandbox]] until we can figure out where to place the comic's article. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == For now... ==<br /> <br /> ...I'm deciding WfC is classified as a Primax-cluster universe. Now that the toys are sort of out, we really need to stick them ''somewhere''. And there's been nothing indicated that its universe isn't terribly G1y. This could change in the future as we come to understand its universe better, but we can move it then. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 2 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm beginning to wonder if the &quot;G1 continuity family&quot; is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't &quot;terribly G1y&quot; in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Division by Game? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> At some point soon are we going to need to give this page a major overhaul? From the sounds of it the Wii and DS versions are going to have signifigant enough character and play differnces that talking about it all as &quot;one single game&quot; would likely become counterproductive. Don't have the time right now to check but isn't that how we've handled multiplatform games in the past? A 360/PS3 section, a Wii section and a DS section? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:15, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I know there are two seperate articles for the PS1 and N64 versions of the Beast Wars Transmetal fighting games. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:54, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::The games actually have different names, as well. The Wii version is called Transformers: Cybertron Adventures. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 23:55, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Usually there's seperate pages for different versions of the games, there'll probably be one for this game too. Might be better to wait until they're out though. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:25, 11 June 2010 (GMT)<br /> <br /> == Matt Tieger Says... ==<br /> I am, right now, listening to a Kotaku podcast where they are interviewing Matt Tieger, and he says War for Cybertron is &quot;like a prequel to G1.&quot; http://ca.kotaku.com/5559654/its-a-prime-time-to-talk-transformers<br /> So, is this confirmation of being G1, or do we still wait until the game or official fiction is released? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:01, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I think the keywords is that he used &quot;like a&quot; on describing WfC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:07, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Another note from the podcast: Matt Tieger says that Corey Burton is NOT the voice of Shockwave, but rather they got a sound-alike. Should this be worth mentioning? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Matt Tieger has also said that WFC is a direct prequel to the G1 cartoon, which is impossible on several levels given what we know. I think a lot of what he says is to get people to buy the game (SHOCK SHOCK I KNOW) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DS Version ==<br /> <br /> Source for all of these &quot;DS-only&quot; guys? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:34, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : People who've played the game. I myself have seen Kup and Dirge fairly early on in the Toys R Us demo version. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:38, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: After going through the game, Kup's actually not playable, never featured beyond his portrait appearing in the tutorial. Hot Rod, on the other hand, is in, though he's named Hot Shot. On the decepticon side, there's also Ramjet, Motormaster and Dragstrip--[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 05:46, 23 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Box Art==<br /> <br /> I have a picture of the Box Art, should I upload it, and if there's a version already here, shouldn't we use it as the Main Picture? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 13:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==<br /> <br /> == I know some missons! ==<br /> <br /> I resantly looked at campaign and misson desighn and it showed the names of some missons lets add that.<br /> :Where did you look at them? Were they officially released by Hasbro/the programming company? If not, then they are not eligible for inclusion on this wiki. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:54, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> yes,<br /> confirmed misson names are <br /> defend iacon,<br /> death of hope,<br /> the final guardian,<br /> fuel of war,<br /> iacon destroyed,<br /> false propaganda,<br /> decagon plaza<br /> these are a few confirmed missons<br /> :Where were they released? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:57, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Confirmed by high moon.<br /> :Where? When? Source, please? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> www.transformersgame.com go to media videos then behind the sceans campagn and misson desighn then when hes choosing a level he scrolls throgh these levels.<br /> <br /> ==James Remar==<br /> So, was this actually confirmed? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:57, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : I also would like to know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I as well, but I like Remar so I filled out his article anyway. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:21, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Given the fact you jumped all over me for that Ausgamers thing, I would have thought this article's creation would have caused some discussion. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:52, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Yeah well I figured with the article locked from anons... the WfC page would've been spared from unsourced statements. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:56, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Someone also added the WfC Starscream thing back onto [[Doug Parker]]'s article. Has THAT been confirmed? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 21:39, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::You know... seeing as how a few folks on the Allspark have snagged copies early, why not just beg them in the thread or PM or something if they can upload screenies/scans (whichever is applicable) of the credits for us? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:40, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::Never mind, now that I'm caught up over there, I see [[User:abates|abates]] already did that. XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:44, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-war-cybertron-discussion/309191-transformers-war-cybertron-cast-spoiler.html Spotted this over on TFW2005], FWIW. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Megatron's voiced by [[Fred Tatasciore]], apparently. (BRB, making new actor pages. :P) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 22:22, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::I will totally fist-pump if he is, because I freakin' called that in ''January''. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 03:49, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Profiles? ==<br /> <br /> Should we bother linking to all of the available official website character profiles, or are we just going to remove the existing links once the game comes out? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:07, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : They count as G1 canon so we should keep them linked to their G1 counterparts.--[[User:Primetime]] 12:06, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: That's not what Jeysie is talking about. She's talking about the links to the official WFC website. &quot;official website character profiles.&quot; Me, uh, I don't really have an opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: Yeah, Walky got it in one.<br /> ::: I guess my confusion was... I wasn't sure if the links were intended as information (in which case, might as well keep 'em), or just as sources for the character being in the game (in which case, once we get an official credits list from the game itself, said sources aren't really needed).<br /> ::: Not that I'm fussed either way... I just was itching to be consistent, and wasn't sure if that involved linking or deleting. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:14, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: For me, more info is almost always better. Link!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Name?==<br /> <br /> Is there a name for the guy I'm referring to as &quot;Giant Autobot tank thing that you fight before Zeta Prime&quot;? He has lines and stuff, but he didn't really look like anybody I recognized. (I refuse to call him by the name &quot;that guy who kicked my ass about a dozen times until I got lucky.&quot;) {{unsigned|Skyshock Thunderblast}} 09:22, 25 June 2010<br /> :I'm pretty sure he's just a generic. You fight a few more during the Decepticon campaign, and some more during the Autobot campaign. I know they call the Decepticon ones &quot;Destroyers,&quot; but I'm not sure what the Autobot ones are called. The loading-screen hints refer to them as, simply, Tanks. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I had assumed &quot;Destroyer&quot; was for both Autobots and Decepticons with that body-type. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:06, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I assumed that as well, but I was just going with what I knew for certain. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:27, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: I would SWEAR I heard one of the other Autobots refer to him by name. Well, Matt Tieger from Full Moon is at BC this year. Ask him? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:56, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::: Tanks for Autobots, Destroyers for Decepticons, according to the subtitles.<br /> == DS Profile Pictures ==<br /> <br /> Any use in screenshots for the characters as they appear in the DS Game? Will also be able to get console versions soon too.<br /> --[[User:Scatterlung|Scatterlung]] 14:22, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Who's the blue Autobot Tank? ==<br /> In the concept art (autobot recruits section, i believe) and the credits, there is a blue Autobot tank that clearly is not a blue version of Warpath, and looks like a completely different design. Is this a reference to a real Transformers character? ''(i don't know everything there is to know about transformers, so to those who do, please have mercy...)'' [[Special:Contributions/24.145.176.54|24.145.176.54]] 14:08, 26 June 2010 (EDT)unregistered contributor (has accounts on other wikis, but doesn't work on this one)<br /> :I'd say Twin Twist; while it's obviously not a jumpstarter, he's the closest thing to a blue and white Autobot tank I could find. The real mystery is why the Constructicon truck and this guy aren't in the game, since those faction/classes only have one mesh right now.<br /> ::I strongly doubt it's Twin Twist. Can you give us any more details about the character? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:59, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I think it's just the model for the generic Autobot tank soldiers you fight in the game. It may not actually be that color of blue (some of the character models aren't the final colors). --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::It certainly isn't, because there aren't any. Is there any real reason it can't be Twin Twist? I can post a pic, but he doesn't look much like anyone in particular (much as the purple/green constructicon doesn't either). Tanks (or heavy enough to be tanks) are rare enough on the Autobot side to narrow it down pretty quickly: the only guys that jump out at me are Twin Twist or animated Sentinel Prime. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pnakotus/tf/IMG_0550.jpg. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.127.90|118.208.127.90]]<br /> :I have the 360 game the guy is in the credits sinama. I think he may be a sneek peak at ultar magnus for this game but thats just my gess. {{unsigned|74.103.61.137}} 06:12, 28 June 2010<br /> :The PC version, having all the bot names apparent on characters' model files, names him as Scattershot.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:50, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Aha, so I was right. Because his head, colors, and altmode are 100% Cybertron Defense [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:54, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Maybe its time for a cleanup ==<br /> <br /> The game is out, the preview stuff is now irrelevant, and solid information regarding plot, characters, continuity etc is available. Devoting 33% of the article to a promotional webgame that hasn't told us anything for six months is ... strange.<br /> :I've worked a bit on the article today. Did a synopsis for the 360 version, but I don't own the Wii or DS ones. Someone else will have to help with those. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:27, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I'd suggest moving the Gallery to the end, using a more TFwiki standard arrangement of images/references/voice actors/etc, removing the useless 'Transmission Recovery' section, and expanding the references section (Primus, conversion cog, etc). [[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::Perhaps the 'Transmission Recovery' section could be split into a new article? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:24, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Sure, but the game isn't playable anymore and the video you 'recover' is just one of the trailers that are freely available.[[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::::Okay, the sections are shuffled to be more logical and in line with other articles. What happened to the plot synopsis? [[User:Pnakotus|Pnakotus]] 00:54, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Advice on writing up the weapons.==<br /> I think the game's variety of weapons deserves a write-up, but I'm not sure if I should make individual pages for them or just put them all on one page. Information for the Null Ray, for example, was already sort-of mentioned on the page for the G1 [[Null ray]]. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I went ahead and made a page for all of the weapons. Definitely needs pics, though... --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 17:01, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I think they really need to have individual pages - the list page doesn't really fit in with how we do things. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Can we lock these WFC articles down? ==<br /> <br /> Or else I'm going to be spending the rest of my time on the wiki attempting to write WFC articles only to have to clean up after anon users (and relatively new members who don't know how to write in our style). Then I will give up because the articles are now too much work to get up to standards, video gamers who edited these articles have amazingly short attention spans and have left, and I'm the only one left who edits these things, as seen here last year: [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)]] *cries* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:29, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Which ones? just the main game articles? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:19, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Probably for the best. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:01, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Hey, I can still edit these things too! I need to...uh...actually finish the game first, though. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:38, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == G1? ==<br /> <br /> This game SHOULD NOT be connected to the prime series.WHICH IS WHY HASBRO PUT THIS AS CANNON TO THE G1 series.you can not tell me that the storline for the game is the same as the exodus comic book.-- [[user:Primetime]] july 6,2010 (EDT)<br /> :We might take you more seriously if you're not screaming at us and misspelling &quot;canon&quot;. Just a suggestion. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:39, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, Exodus isn't a comic book, and it's marketed as a tie-in novel to the game. So for all intents and purposes it is the novelization of the game, even if it's not exactly the same.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :They did? When? Where? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:49, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> 1:I'm not yelling,I just typed it that way.2:It's a tie-in comic?3:This wiki hardly listens to other users to the point where i should be yelling.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:57,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Exodus mentions the video game in its trade dress in several places. Also, as I said, it's not even a comic.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:16, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> hmmmmm, so which one is the g1 prequel because high moon sayed their storyline was a g1 prequel(read interviews).And they came out first and hasbro is just trying to jazz things up with things like Exodus and the prime cartoon(which is sayed to be a movie prequel but I don't know).--[[Primetime|Primetime]] 01:36,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Exodus was released on the same day as War for Cybertron. Because, again, it's a marketing tie-in.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:40, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> Thats great! now like I sayed before is it G1 liked the interviews sayed or not like some of you keep saying(I mean the game).--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:26 7, July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :It's the backstory for the new continuity that the Prime cartoon on the Hub will share. This was confirmed at BotCon. The new continuity borrows elements from several past ones, including a movie-style AllSpark, a series of space bridges leading to Cybertronian colonies a la Galaxy Force/Cybertron, the Elite Guard from Animated, the Wreckers, and a great many other nods to previous work. It is not exclusively G1 that is referenced.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:37, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::NO IT IS NOT G1. STOP INTERPRETING STUFF HIGH MOON STUDIOS SAID SO THE GAME WOULD SELL BETTER AS WORD OF GOD. <br /> ::I had to get that out of my system. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 02:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :If it's G1, why is there an AllSpark cube? Why is Bumblebee mute? And what's Gigantion doing there? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 09:46, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, Thy, that's all stuff from the Exodus novel, not WFC proper. They're tied together, but the original poster was only speaking about the game. (Annoyingly enough, Bumblebee loses his voice in the novel before the events of the game (loosely) take place, making Bumblebee's talking kind of, you know, another fun discrepancy.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:48, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> SOOO doesn't that mean the Exodus Novel and the game are not related due to the MAJOR differences in the storyline(because honestly the game seems REALLY like its a G1 prequel).And if you disagree explain why bumblebee can suddenly talk again and he is just meeting optimus and ratchet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:00,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> : If it fits with G1 how come the designs are different, Dinobots, Combaticons and Aerialbots are present, the origin of Optimus is different, the origin of the Matrix is different, the way they leave the planet is different etc. etc. etc. etc.? {{unsigned|201.88.66.127|12:16, 7 July 2010}}<br /> ::That's been done all the time. The cartoon characters had different Cybertronian forms than the Dreamwave characters, but they're both G1. Plus, the Dinobots, Stunticons et al were in the War Within. Still, this game isn't G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 12:27, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Those wouldn't keep it out of G1, but DO prevent it from being the backstory to the G1 toon. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:36, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> : Inconsistencies in story do not magically make Exodus anything other than a marketing tie-in to the game. They are intended to go together. If you likewise choose to ignore the fact that Hasbro have said that this will continue on into Prime and beyond, I don't know what more we can get out of this discussion.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 12:26, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> Okay High moon is STILL saying their game is a prequel to G1 even after they released the game.We SHOULD make new WFC pages,or link them back to G1.Forget hasbro right now I'm talking about High moon and their intentions for their game.No prime or Exodus.---[[Primetime|Primetime]] 1:14, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :WFC is part of the backstory for TF:Prime. It seems like it can apply to G1 too because TF:Prime is deliberately mirroring a lot of G1, especially in past setup. But they're not the same and we will not treat them the same. Unless High Moon is also writing the next cartoon, that's that. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 13:25, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::&quot;Forget Hasbro&quot;? You do realize that Hasbro has the final say on things, not High Moon. High Moon's statements are simply marketing, not fiction. Of course, why we are bothering to try to explain this to someone whose grasp of English does not include the simple word &quot;said&quot; is beyond me. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:36, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::This is either a troll or someone who does not understand English. (Who, BTW, happens to share his username with a notorious Wikipedia troll/vandal) Either way this is getting ridiculous. High Moon DOES NOT have the final say on this stuff, their statement about WFC being G1 WAS intended to get more people to buy the game, YOU ARE AN ANNOYING LITTLE MAN, Primetime. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:54, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> (sighs)Okay look,lets drop this WHOLE topic.I might have misspelled on ACCIDENT and generally I was asking a question that you guys kept dodging.I'm not a troll(never heard of the ''notorious troll on wikia before that you're talking about'')so lets leave it alone and keep igonoring my question and go on with our lives.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:12, 7 July 2010 (EDT)</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* G1? */</p> <hr /> <div>== G1 Characters ==<br /> <br /> Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> :There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?<br /> :Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say &quot;assumption&quot; isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)<br /> :::The TFW2005 interview states it's &quot;not connected to any particular generation&quot; and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)<br /> ::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::::::How about &quot;WFC&quot;? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> :::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using &quot;WFC&quot; to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)<br /> :::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview &quot;Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe.&quot; The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying &quot;Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not,&quot; or vice-versa &quot;anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?&quot; A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. &quot;Its prehistory is very slightly different&quot; will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than &quot;influenced by it&quot; I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> <br /> To me, this seems every bit as G1 as War Within - Yeah it branches out into it's own story but it's hard to deny that this isn't just as G1 as DW or IDW comics given the use of characters and story telling style. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}} 08:55, 28 June 2010<br /> <br /> == The New trailer ==<br /> <br /> should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> preety much.<br /> <br /> == Logos ==<br /> <br /> I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Starscream? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the &quot;Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault&quot; picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010<br /> Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]<br /> ::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::: I'd say more &quot;Classics-ized&quot; versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Fresh trailer guys ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage<br /> <br /> Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...<br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Third link in &quot;external links&quot; at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Character Sources?==<br /> I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> : For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Release date==<br /> Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)<br /> sweetness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Motormaster ==<br /> <br /> Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version: <br /> http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg<br /> <br /> Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game. <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html<br /> : I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Interview and more gameplay and footage ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story<br /> <br /> Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.<br /> <br /> -Aaron Archer<br /> <br /> -It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.<br /> <br /> -Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?<br /> <br /> -And much more...<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> <br /> == No PSP option... ==<br /> <br /> Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I think its a &quot;revised&quot;<br /> backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Voice actor thing ==<br /> <br /> I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending &quot;false&quot; information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.<br /> :So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with &quot;AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego&quot; and &quot;Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]&quot;. Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not &quot;We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia.&quot; --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with &quot;idiots&quot; over &quot;cover-up&quot;. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> According to IMDB, Soundwave is played by [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0071818/ Jeff Bennet]. Is this legit enough for this wiki? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:22, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Nuh-uh. IMDB is like Wiki where any user can edit the content, be it actual or junk. I rather wait till an official announcement from either Activision or High Moon themselves. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:54, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == New Characters' pages? ==<br /> VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?<br /> : We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)<br /> <br /> VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> <br /> :The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out &quot;Oops, they're part of G1&quot; and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> :I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jazz? ==<br /> <br /> The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave<br /> <br /> == Image Captions/Quotes ==<br /> <br /> So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?<br /> <br /> And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.<br /> <br /> ''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''<br /> <br /> Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved<br /> <br /> [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)<br /> :By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same &quot;gritty dark&quot; feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: &quot;Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little.&quot; Omega Supreme's picture: &quot;Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off.&quot; Megatron: &quot;I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered.&quot; Bumblebee: &quot;Little people first!&quot;<br /> ::For Starscream joining the Decepticons, &quot;What would you have your Arbiter do?&quot; [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 00:36, 06 June 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == New characters ==<br /> <br /> Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the &quot;embargo&quot; pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream_%28WFC%29|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[Special:Contributions/98.204.17.1|98.204.17.1]] 17:45, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Short Answer: No. Long Answer: Well, probably not, they're almost crtainly actual characters in the story version of the game from what we've seen, but no one will know 100% for sure until the game is out and we play through and see. But still, likely, no. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:00, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==<br /> <br /> [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&amp;postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::&quot;Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS...&quot; So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Picked my copy up and it is rather a bit more close to Exodus from the reviews elsewhere. While I don't have a copy of Exodus on hand yet, the charges against Megatron that includes bombing Six Lasers Over Cybertron and kidnapping Sentinel Prime is mentioned. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:20, 24 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Feel free to edit the article I set up at my [[User:Lonegamer78/Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|sandbox]] until we can figure out where to place the comic's article. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == For now... ==<br /> <br /> ...I'm deciding WfC is classified as a Primax-cluster universe. Now that the toys are sort of out, we really need to stick them ''somewhere''. And there's been nothing indicated that its universe isn't terribly G1y. This could change in the future as we come to understand its universe better, but we can move it then. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 2 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm beginning to wonder if the &quot;G1 continuity family&quot; is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't &quot;terribly G1y&quot; in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Division by Game? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> At some point soon are we going to need to give this page a major overhaul? From the sounds of it the Wii and DS versions are going to have signifigant enough character and play differnces that talking about it all as &quot;one single game&quot; would likely become counterproductive. Don't have the time right now to check but isn't that how we've handled multiplatform games in the past? A 360/PS3 section, a Wii section and a DS section? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:15, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I know there are two seperate articles for the PS1 and N64 versions of the Beast Wars Transmetal fighting games. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:54, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::The games actually have different names, as well. The Wii version is called Transformers: Cybertron Adventures. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 23:55, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Usually there's seperate pages for different versions of the games, there'll probably be one for this game too. Might be better to wait until they're out though. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:25, 11 June 2010 (GMT)<br /> <br /> == Matt Tieger Says... ==<br /> I am, right now, listening to a Kotaku podcast where they are interviewing Matt Tieger, and he says War for Cybertron is &quot;like a prequel to G1.&quot; http://ca.kotaku.com/5559654/its-a-prime-time-to-talk-transformers<br /> So, is this confirmation of being G1, or do we still wait until the game or official fiction is released? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:01, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I think the keywords is that he used &quot;like a&quot; on describing WfC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:07, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Another note from the podcast: Matt Tieger says that Corey Burton is NOT the voice of Shockwave, but rather they got a sound-alike. Should this be worth mentioning? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Matt Tieger has also said that WFC is a direct prequel to the G1 cartoon, which is impossible on several levels given what we know. I think a lot of what he says is to get people to buy the game (SHOCK SHOCK I KNOW) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DS Version ==<br /> <br /> Source for all of these &quot;DS-only&quot; guys? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:34, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : People who've played the game. I myself have seen Kup and Dirge fairly early on in the Toys R Us demo version. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:38, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: After going through the game, Kup's actually not playable, never featured beyond his portrait appearing in the tutorial. Hot Rod, on the other hand, is in, though he's named Hot Shot. On the decepticon side, there's also Ramjet, Motormaster and Dragstrip--[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 05:46, 23 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Box Art==<br /> <br /> I have a picture of the Box Art, should I upload it, and if there's a version already here, shouldn't we use it as the Main Picture? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 13:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==<br /> <br /> == I know some missons! ==<br /> <br /> I resantly looked at campaign and misson desighn and it showed the names of some missons lets add that.<br /> :Where did you look at them? Were they officially released by Hasbro/the programming company? If not, then they are not eligible for inclusion on this wiki. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:54, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> yes,<br /> confirmed misson names are <br /> defend iacon,<br /> death of hope,<br /> the final guardian,<br /> fuel of war,<br /> iacon destroyed,<br /> false propaganda,<br /> decagon plaza<br /> these are a few confirmed missons<br /> :Where were they released? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:57, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Confirmed by high moon.<br /> :Where? When? Source, please? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> www.transformersgame.com go to media videos then behind the sceans campagn and misson desighn then when hes choosing a level he scrolls throgh these levels.<br /> <br /> ==James Remar==<br /> So, was this actually confirmed? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:57, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : I also would like to know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I as well, but I like Remar so I filled out his article anyway. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:21, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Given the fact you jumped all over me for that Ausgamers thing, I would have thought this article's creation would have caused some discussion. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:52, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Yeah well I figured with the article locked from anons... the WfC page would've been spared from unsourced statements. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:56, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Someone also added the WfC Starscream thing back onto [[Doug Parker]]'s article. Has THAT been confirmed? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 21:39, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::You know... seeing as how a few folks on the Allspark have snagged copies early, why not just beg them in the thread or PM or something if they can upload screenies/scans (whichever is applicable) of the credits for us? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:40, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::Never mind, now that I'm caught up over there, I see [[User:abates|abates]] already did that. XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:44, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-war-cybertron-discussion/309191-transformers-war-cybertron-cast-spoiler.html Spotted this over on TFW2005], FWIW. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Megatron's voiced by [[Fred Tatasciore]], apparently. (BRB, making new actor pages. :P) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 22:22, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::I will totally fist-pump if he is, because I freakin' called that in ''January''. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 03:49, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Profiles? ==<br /> <br /> Should we bother linking to all of the available official website character profiles, or are we just going to remove the existing links once the game comes out? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:07, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : They count as G1 canon so we should keep them linked to their G1 counterparts.--[[User:Primetime]] 12:06, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: That's not what Jeysie is talking about. She's talking about the links to the official WFC website. &quot;official website character profiles.&quot; Me, uh, I don't really have an opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: Yeah, Walky got it in one.<br /> ::: I guess my confusion was... I wasn't sure if the links were intended as information (in which case, might as well keep 'em), or just as sources for the character being in the game (in which case, once we get an official credits list from the game itself, said sources aren't really needed).<br /> ::: Not that I'm fussed either way... I just was itching to be consistent, and wasn't sure if that involved linking or deleting. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:14, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: For me, more info is almost always better. Link!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Name?==<br /> <br /> Is there a name for the guy I'm referring to as &quot;Giant Autobot tank thing that you fight before Zeta Prime&quot;? He has lines and stuff, but he didn't really look like anybody I recognized. (I refuse to call him by the name &quot;that guy who kicked my ass about a dozen times until I got lucky.&quot;) {{unsigned|Skyshock Thunderblast}} 09:22, 25 June 2010<br /> :I'm pretty sure he's just a generic. You fight a few more during the Decepticon campaign, and some more during the Autobot campaign. I know they call the Decepticon ones &quot;Destroyers,&quot; but I'm not sure what the Autobot ones are called. The loading-screen hints refer to them as, simply, Tanks. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I had assumed &quot;Destroyer&quot; was for both Autobots and Decepticons with that body-type. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:06, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I assumed that as well, but I was just going with what I knew for certain. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:27, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: I would SWEAR I heard one of the other Autobots refer to him by name. Well, Matt Tieger from Full Moon is at BC this year. Ask him? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:56, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::: Tanks for Autobots, Destroyers for Decepticons, according to the subtitles.<br /> == DS Profile Pictures ==<br /> <br /> Any use in screenshots for the characters as they appear in the DS Game? Will also be able to get console versions soon too.<br /> --[[User:Scatterlung|Scatterlung]] 14:22, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Who's the blue Autobot Tank? ==<br /> In the concept art (autobot recruits section, i believe) and the credits, there is a blue Autobot tank that clearly is not a blue version of Warpath, and looks like a completely different design. Is this a reference to a real Transformers character? ''(i don't know everything there is to know about transformers, so to those who do, please have mercy...)'' [[Special:Contributions/24.145.176.54|24.145.176.54]] 14:08, 26 June 2010 (EDT)unregistered contributor (has accounts on other wikis, but doesn't work on this one)<br /> :I'd say Twin Twist; while it's obviously not a jumpstarter, he's the closest thing to a blue and white Autobot tank I could find. The real mystery is why the Constructicon truck and this guy aren't in the game, since those faction/classes only have one mesh right now.<br /> ::I strongly doubt it's Twin Twist. Can you give us any more details about the character? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:59, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I think it's just the model for the generic Autobot tank soldiers you fight in the game. It may not actually be that color of blue (some of the character models aren't the final colors). --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::It certainly isn't, because there aren't any. Is there any real reason it can't be Twin Twist? I can post a pic, but he doesn't look much like anyone in particular (much as the purple/green constructicon doesn't either). Tanks (or heavy enough to be tanks) are rare enough on the Autobot side to narrow it down pretty quickly: the only guys that jump out at me are Twin Twist or animated Sentinel Prime. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pnakotus/tf/IMG_0550.jpg. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.127.90|118.208.127.90]]<br /> :I have the 360 game the guy is in the credits sinama. I think he may be a sneek peak at ultar magnus for this game but thats just my gess. {{unsigned|74.103.61.137}} 06:12, 28 June 2010<br /> :The PC version, having all the bot names apparent on characters' model files, names him as Scattershot.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:50, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Aha, so I was right. Because his head, colors, and altmode are 100% Cybertron Defense [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:54, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Maybe its time for a cleanup ==<br /> <br /> The game is out, the preview stuff is now irrelevant, and solid information regarding plot, characters, continuity etc is available. Devoting 33% of the article to a promotional webgame that hasn't told us anything for six months is ... strange.<br /> :I've worked a bit on the article today. Did a synopsis for the 360 version, but I don't own the Wii or DS ones. Someone else will have to help with those. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:27, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I'd suggest moving the Gallery to the end, using a more TFwiki standard arrangement of images/references/voice actors/etc, removing the useless 'Transmission Recovery' section, and expanding the references section (Primus, conversion cog, etc). [[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::Perhaps the 'Transmission Recovery' section could be split into a new article? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:24, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Sure, but the game isn't playable anymore and the video you 'recover' is just one of the trailers that are freely available.[[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::::Okay, the sections are shuffled to be more logical and in line with other articles. What happened to the plot synopsis? [[User:Pnakotus|Pnakotus]] 00:54, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Advice on writing up the weapons.==<br /> I think the game's variety of weapons deserves a write-up, but I'm not sure if I should make individual pages for them or just put them all on one page. Information for the Null Ray, for example, was already sort-of mentioned on the page for the G1 [[Null ray]]. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I went ahead and made a page for all of the weapons. Definitely needs pics, though... --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 17:01, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I think they really need to have individual pages - the list page doesn't really fit in with how we do things. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Can we lock these WFC articles down? ==<br /> <br /> Or else I'm going to be spending the rest of my time on the wiki attempting to write WFC articles only to have to clean up after anon users (and relatively new members who don't know how to write in our style). Then I will give up because the articles are now too much work to get up to standards, video gamers who edited these articles have amazingly short attention spans and have left, and I'm the only one left who edits these things, as seen here last year: [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)]] *cries* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:29, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Which ones? just the main game articles? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:19, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Probably for the best. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:01, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Hey, I can still edit these things too! I need to...uh...actually finish the game first, though. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:38, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == G1? ==<br /> <br /> This game SHOULD NOT be connected to the prime series.WHICH IS WHY HASBRO PUT THIS AS CANNON TO THE G1 series.you can not tell me that the storline for the game is the same as the exodus comic book.-- [[user:Primetime]] july 6,2010 (EDT)<br /> :We might take you more seriously if you're not screaming at us and misspelling &quot;canon&quot;. Just a suggestion. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:39, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, Exodus isn't a comic book, and it's marketed as a tie-in novel to the game. So for all intents and purposes it is the novelization of the game, even if it's not exactly the same.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :They did? When? Where? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:49, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> 1:I'm not yelling,I just typed it that way.2:It's a tie-in comic?3:This wiki hardly listens to other users to the point where i should be yelling.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:57,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Exodus mentions the video game in its trade dress in several places. Also, as I said, it's not even a comic.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:16, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> hmmmmm, so which one is the g1 prequel because high moon sayed their storyline was a g1 prequel(read interviews).And they came out first and hasbro is just trying to jazz things up with things like Exodus and the prime cartoon(which is sayed to be a movie prequel but I don't know).--[[Primetime|Primetime]] 01:36,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Exodus was released on the same day as War for Cybertron. Because, again, it's a marketing tie-in.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:40, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> Thats great! now like I sayed before is it G1 liked the interviews sayed or not like some of you keep saying(I mean the game).--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:26 7, July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :It's the backstory for the new continuity that the Prime cartoon on the Hub will share. This was confirmed at BotCon. The new continuity borrows elements from several past ones, including a movie-style AllSpark, a series of space bridges leading to Cybertronian colonies a la Galaxy Force/Cybertron, the Elite Guard from Animated, the Wreckers, and a great many other nods to previous work. It is not exclusively G1 that is referenced.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:37, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::NO IT IS NOT G1. STOP INTERPRETING STUFF HIGH MOON STUDIOS SAID SO THE GAME WOULD SELL BETTER AS WORD OF GOD. <br /> ::I had to get that out of my system. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 02:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :If it's G1, why is there an AllSpark cube? Why is Bumblebee mute? And what's Gigantion doing there? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 09:46, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, Thy, that's all stuff from the Exodus novel, not WFC proper. They're tied together, but the original poster was only speaking about the game. (Annoyingly enough, Bumblebee loses his voice in the novel before the events of the game (loosely) take place, making Bumblebee's talking kind of, you know, another fun discrepancy.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:48, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> SOOO doesn't that mean the Exodus Novel and the game are not related due to the MAJOR differences in the storyline(because honestly the game seems REALLY like its a G1 prequel).And if you disagree explain why bumblebee can suddenly talk again and he is just meeting optimus and ratchet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:00,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> : If it fits with G1 how come the designs are different, Dinobots, Combaticons and Aerialbots are present, the origin of Optimus is different, the origin of the Matrix is different, the way they leave the planet is different etc. etc. etc. etc.? {{unsigned|201.88.66.127|12:16, 7 July 2010}}<br /> ::That's been done all the time. The cartoon characters had different Cybertronian forms than the Dreamwave characters, but they're both G1. Plus, the Dinobots, Stunticons et al were in the War Within. Still, this game isn't G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 12:27, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Those wouldn't keep it out of G1, but DO prevent it from being the backstory to the G1 toon. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:36, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> : Inconsistencies in story do not magically make Exodus anything other than a marketing tie-in to the game. They are intended to go together. If you likewise choose to ignore the fact that Hasbro have said that this will continue on into Prime and beyond, I don't know what more we can get out of this discussion.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 12:26, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> Okay High moon is STILL saying their game is a prequel to G1 even after they released the game.We SHOULD make new WFC pages,or link them back to G1.Forget hasbro right now I'm talking about High moon and their intentions for their game.No prime or Exodus.---[[Primetime|Primetime]] 1:14, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :WFC is part of the backstory for TF:Prime. It seems like it can apply to G1 too because TF:Prime is deliberately mirroring a lot of G1, especially in past setup. But they're not the same and we will not treat them the same. Unless High Moon is also writing the next cartoon, that's that. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 13:25, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::&quot;Forget Hasbro&quot;? You do realize that Hasbro has the final say on things, not High Moon. High Moon's statements are simply marketing, not fiction. Of course, why we are bothering to try to explain this to someone whose grasp of English does not include the simple word &quot;said&quot; is beyond me. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:36, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::This is either a troll or someone who does not understand English. (Who, BTW, happens to share his username with a notorious Wikipedia troll/vandal) Either way this is getting ridiculous. High Moon DOES NOT have the final say on this stuff, their statement about WFC being G1 WAS intended to get more people to buy the game, YOU ARE AN ANNOYING LITTLE MAN, Primetime. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:54, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> (sighs)Okay look,lets drop this WHOLE topic.I might have misspelled on ACCIDENT and generally I was asking a question that you guys kept dodging.I'm not a troll(never heard of the ''notorious troll on wikia before that you're talking about'')so lets leave it alone and keep igonoring my question and get on with our lives.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:12, 7 July 2010 (EDT)</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* G1? */</p> <hr /> <div>== G1 Characters ==<br /> <br /> Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> :There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?<br /> :Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say &quot;assumption&quot; isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)<br /> :::The TFW2005 interview states it's &quot;not connected to any particular generation&quot; and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)<br /> ::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::::::How about &quot;WFC&quot;? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> :::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using &quot;WFC&quot; to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)<br /> :::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview &quot;Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe.&quot; The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying &quot;Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not,&quot; or vice-versa &quot;anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?&quot; A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. &quot;Its prehistory is very slightly different&quot; will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than &quot;influenced by it&quot; I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> <br /> To me, this seems every bit as G1 as War Within - Yeah it branches out into it's own story but it's hard to deny that this isn't just as G1 as DW or IDW comics given the use of characters and story telling style. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}} 08:55, 28 June 2010<br /> <br /> == The New trailer ==<br /> <br /> should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> preety much.<br /> <br /> == Logos ==<br /> <br /> I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Starscream? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the &quot;Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault&quot; picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010<br /> Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]<br /> ::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::: I'd say more &quot;Classics-ized&quot; versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Fresh trailer guys ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage<br /> <br /> Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...<br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Third link in &quot;external links&quot; at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Character Sources?==<br /> I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> : For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Release date==<br /> Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)<br /> sweetness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Motormaster ==<br /> <br /> Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version: <br /> http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg<br /> <br /> Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game. <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html<br /> : I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Interview and more gameplay and footage ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story<br /> <br /> Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.<br /> <br /> -Aaron Archer<br /> <br /> -It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.<br /> <br /> -Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?<br /> <br /> -And much more...<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> <br /> == No PSP option... ==<br /> <br /> Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I think its a &quot;revised&quot;<br /> backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Voice actor thing ==<br /> <br /> I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending &quot;false&quot; information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.<br /> :So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with &quot;AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego&quot; and &quot;Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]&quot;. Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not &quot;We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia.&quot; --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with &quot;idiots&quot; over &quot;cover-up&quot;. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> According to IMDB, Soundwave is played by [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0071818/ Jeff Bennet]. Is this legit enough for this wiki? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:22, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Nuh-uh. IMDB is like Wiki where any user can edit the content, be it actual or junk. I rather wait till an official announcement from either Activision or High Moon themselves. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:54, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == New Characters' pages? ==<br /> VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?<br /> : We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)<br /> <br /> VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> <br /> :The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out &quot;Oops, they're part of G1&quot; and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> :I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jazz? ==<br /> <br /> The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave<br /> <br /> == Image Captions/Quotes ==<br /> <br /> So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?<br /> <br /> And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.<br /> <br /> ''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''<br /> <br /> Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved<br /> <br /> [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)<br /> :By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same &quot;gritty dark&quot; feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: &quot;Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little.&quot; Omega Supreme's picture: &quot;Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off.&quot; Megatron: &quot;I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered.&quot; Bumblebee: &quot;Little people first!&quot;<br /> ::For Starscream joining the Decepticons, &quot;What would you have your Arbiter do?&quot; [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 00:36, 06 June 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == New characters ==<br /> <br /> Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the &quot;embargo&quot; pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream_%28WFC%29|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[Special:Contributions/98.204.17.1|98.204.17.1]] 17:45, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Short Answer: No. Long Answer: Well, probably not, they're almost crtainly actual characters in the story version of the game from what we've seen, but no one will know 100% for sure until the game is out and we play through and see. But still, likely, no. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:00, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==<br /> <br /> [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&amp;postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::&quot;Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS...&quot; So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Picked my copy up and it is rather a bit more close to Exodus from the reviews elsewhere. While I don't have a copy of Exodus on hand yet, the charges against Megatron that includes bombing Six Lasers Over Cybertron and kidnapping Sentinel Prime is mentioned. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:20, 24 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Feel free to edit the article I set up at my [[User:Lonegamer78/Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|sandbox]] until we can figure out where to place the comic's article. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == For now... ==<br /> <br /> ...I'm deciding WfC is classified as a Primax-cluster universe. Now that the toys are sort of out, we really need to stick them ''somewhere''. And there's been nothing indicated that its universe isn't terribly G1y. This could change in the future as we come to understand its universe better, but we can move it then. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 2 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm beginning to wonder if the &quot;G1 continuity family&quot; is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't &quot;terribly G1y&quot; in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Division by Game? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> At some point soon are we going to need to give this page a major overhaul? From the sounds of it the Wii and DS versions are going to have signifigant enough character and play differnces that talking about it all as &quot;one single game&quot; would likely become counterproductive. Don't have the time right now to check but isn't that how we've handled multiplatform games in the past? A 360/PS3 section, a Wii section and a DS section? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:15, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I know there are two seperate articles for the PS1 and N64 versions of the Beast Wars Transmetal fighting games. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:54, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::The games actually have different names, as well. The Wii version is called Transformers: Cybertron Adventures. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 23:55, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Usually there's seperate pages for different versions of the games, there'll probably be one for this game too. Might be better to wait until they're out though. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:25, 11 June 2010 (GMT)<br /> <br /> == Matt Tieger Says... ==<br /> I am, right now, listening to a Kotaku podcast where they are interviewing Matt Tieger, and he says War for Cybertron is &quot;like a prequel to G1.&quot; http://ca.kotaku.com/5559654/its-a-prime-time-to-talk-transformers<br /> So, is this confirmation of being G1, or do we still wait until the game or official fiction is released? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:01, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I think the keywords is that he used &quot;like a&quot; on describing WfC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:07, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Another note from the podcast: Matt Tieger says that Corey Burton is NOT the voice of Shockwave, but rather they got a sound-alike. Should this be worth mentioning? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Matt Tieger has also said that WFC is a direct prequel to the G1 cartoon, which is impossible on several levels given what we know. I think a lot of what he says is to get people to buy the game (SHOCK SHOCK I KNOW) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DS Version ==<br /> <br /> Source for all of these &quot;DS-only&quot; guys? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:34, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : People who've played the game. I myself have seen Kup and Dirge fairly early on in the Toys R Us demo version. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:38, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: After going through the game, Kup's actually not playable, never featured beyond his portrait appearing in the tutorial. Hot Rod, on the other hand, is in, though he's named Hot Shot. On the decepticon side, there's also Ramjet, Motormaster and Dragstrip--[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 05:46, 23 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Box Art==<br /> <br /> I have a picture of the Box Art, should I upload it, and if there's a version already here, shouldn't we use it as the Main Picture? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 13:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==<br /> <br /> == I know some missons! ==<br /> <br /> I resantly looked at campaign and misson desighn and it showed the names of some missons lets add that.<br /> :Where did you look at them? Were they officially released by Hasbro/the programming company? If not, then they are not eligible for inclusion on this wiki. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:54, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> yes,<br /> confirmed misson names are <br /> defend iacon,<br /> death of hope,<br /> the final guardian,<br /> fuel of war,<br /> iacon destroyed,<br /> false propaganda,<br /> decagon plaza<br /> these are a few confirmed missons<br /> :Where were they released? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:57, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Confirmed by high moon.<br /> :Where? When? Source, please? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> www.transformersgame.com go to media videos then behind the sceans campagn and misson desighn then when hes choosing a level he scrolls throgh these levels.<br /> <br /> ==James Remar==<br /> So, was this actually confirmed? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:57, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : I also would like to know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I as well, but I like Remar so I filled out his article anyway. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:21, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Given the fact you jumped all over me for that Ausgamers thing, I would have thought this article's creation would have caused some discussion. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:52, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Yeah well I figured with the article locked from anons... the WfC page would've been spared from unsourced statements. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:56, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Someone also added the WfC Starscream thing back onto [[Doug Parker]]'s article. Has THAT been confirmed? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 21:39, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::You know... seeing as how a few folks on the Allspark have snagged copies early, why not just beg them in the thread or PM or something if they can upload screenies/scans (whichever is applicable) of the credits for us? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:40, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::Never mind, now that I'm caught up over there, I see [[User:abates|abates]] already did that. XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:44, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-war-cybertron-discussion/309191-transformers-war-cybertron-cast-spoiler.html Spotted this over on TFW2005], FWIW. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Megatron's voiced by [[Fred Tatasciore]], apparently. (BRB, making new actor pages. :P) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 22:22, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::I will totally fist-pump if he is, because I freakin' called that in ''January''. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 03:49, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Profiles? ==<br /> <br /> Should we bother linking to all of the available official website character profiles, or are we just going to remove the existing links once the game comes out? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:07, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : They count as G1 canon so we should keep them linked to their G1 counterparts.--[[User:Primetime]] 12:06, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: That's not what Jeysie is talking about. She's talking about the links to the official WFC website. &quot;official website character profiles.&quot; Me, uh, I don't really have an opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: Yeah, Walky got it in one.<br /> ::: I guess my confusion was... I wasn't sure if the links were intended as information (in which case, might as well keep 'em), or just as sources for the character being in the game (in which case, once we get an official credits list from the game itself, said sources aren't really needed).<br /> ::: Not that I'm fussed either way... I just was itching to be consistent, and wasn't sure if that involved linking or deleting. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:14, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: For me, more info is almost always better. Link!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Name?==<br /> <br /> Is there a name for the guy I'm referring to as &quot;Giant Autobot tank thing that you fight before Zeta Prime&quot;? He has lines and stuff, but he didn't really look like anybody I recognized. (I refuse to call him by the name &quot;that guy who kicked my ass about a dozen times until I got lucky.&quot;) {{unsigned|Skyshock Thunderblast}} 09:22, 25 June 2010<br /> :I'm pretty sure he's just a generic. You fight a few more during the Decepticon campaign, and some more during the Autobot campaign. I know they call the Decepticon ones &quot;Destroyers,&quot; but I'm not sure what the Autobot ones are called. The loading-screen hints refer to them as, simply, Tanks. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I had assumed &quot;Destroyer&quot; was for both Autobots and Decepticons with that body-type. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:06, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I assumed that as well, but I was just going with what I knew for certain. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:27, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: I would SWEAR I heard one of the other Autobots refer to him by name. Well, Matt Tieger from Full Moon is at BC this year. Ask him? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:56, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::: Tanks for Autobots, Destroyers for Decepticons, according to the subtitles.<br /> == DS Profile Pictures ==<br /> <br /> Any use in screenshots for the characters as they appear in the DS Game? Will also be able to get console versions soon too.<br /> --[[User:Scatterlung|Scatterlung]] 14:22, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Who's the blue Autobot Tank? ==<br /> In the concept art (autobot recruits section, i believe) and the credits, there is a blue Autobot tank that clearly is not a blue version of Warpath, and looks like a completely different design. Is this a reference to a real Transformers character? ''(i don't know everything there is to know about transformers, so to those who do, please have mercy...)'' [[Special:Contributions/24.145.176.54|24.145.176.54]] 14:08, 26 June 2010 (EDT)unregistered contributor (has accounts on other wikis, but doesn't work on this one)<br /> :I'd say Twin Twist; while it's obviously not a jumpstarter, he's the closest thing to a blue and white Autobot tank I could find. The real mystery is why the Constructicon truck and this guy aren't in the game, since those faction/classes only have one mesh right now.<br /> ::I strongly doubt it's Twin Twist. Can you give us any more details about the character? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:59, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I think it's just the model for the generic Autobot tank soldiers you fight in the game. It may not actually be that color of blue (some of the character models aren't the final colors). --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::It certainly isn't, because there aren't any. Is there any real reason it can't be Twin Twist? I can post a pic, but he doesn't look much like anyone in particular (much as the purple/green constructicon doesn't either). Tanks (or heavy enough to be tanks) are rare enough on the Autobot side to narrow it down pretty quickly: the only guys that jump out at me are Twin Twist or animated Sentinel Prime. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pnakotus/tf/IMG_0550.jpg. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.127.90|118.208.127.90]]<br /> :I have the 360 game the guy is in the credits sinama. I think he may be a sneek peak at ultar magnus for this game but thats just my gess. {{unsigned|74.103.61.137}} 06:12, 28 June 2010<br /> :The PC version, having all the bot names apparent on characters' model files, names him as Scattershot.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:50, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Aha, so I was right. Because his head, colors, and altmode are 100% Cybertron Defense [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:54, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Maybe its time for a cleanup ==<br /> <br /> The game is out, the preview stuff is now irrelevant, and solid information regarding plot, characters, continuity etc is available. Devoting 33% of the article to a promotional webgame that hasn't told us anything for six months is ... strange.<br /> :I've worked a bit on the article today. Did a synopsis for the 360 version, but I don't own the Wii or DS ones. Someone else will have to help with those. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:27, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I'd suggest moving the Gallery to the end, using a more TFwiki standard arrangement of images/references/voice actors/etc, removing the useless 'Transmission Recovery' section, and expanding the references section (Primus, conversion cog, etc). [[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::Perhaps the 'Transmission Recovery' section could be split into a new article? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:24, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Sure, but the game isn't playable anymore and the video you 'recover' is just one of the trailers that are freely available.[[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::::Okay, the sections are shuffled to be more logical and in line with other articles. What happened to the plot synopsis? [[User:Pnakotus|Pnakotus]] 00:54, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Advice on writing up the weapons.==<br /> I think the game's variety of weapons deserves a write-up, but I'm not sure if I should make individual pages for them or just put them all on one page. Information for the Null Ray, for example, was already sort-of mentioned on the page for the G1 [[Null ray]]. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I went ahead and made a page for all of the weapons. Definitely needs pics, though... --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 17:01, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I think they really need to have individual pages - the list page doesn't really fit in with how we do things. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Can we lock these WFC articles down? ==<br /> <br /> Or else I'm going to be spending the rest of my time on the wiki attempting to write WFC articles only to have to clean up after anon users (and relatively new members who don't know how to write in our style). Then I will give up because the articles are now too much work to get up to standards, video gamers who edited these articles have amazingly short attention spans and have left, and I'm the only one left who edits these things, as seen here last year: [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)]] *cries* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:29, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Which ones? just the main game articles? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:19, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Probably for the best. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:01, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Hey, I can still edit these things too! I need to...uh...actually finish the game first, though. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:38, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == G1? ==<br /> <br /> This game SHOULD NOT be connected to the prime series.WHICH IS WHY HASBRO PUT THIS AS CANNON TO THE G1 series.you can not tell me that the storline for the game is the same as the exodus comic book.-- [[user:Primetime]] july 6,2010 (EDT)<br /> :We might take you more seriously if you're not screaming at us and misspelling &quot;canon&quot;. Just a suggestion. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:39, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, Exodus isn't a comic book, and it's marketed as a tie-in novel to the game. So for all intents and purposes it is the novelization of the game, even if it's not exactly the same.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :They did? When? Where? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:49, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> 1:I'm not yelling,I just typed it that way.2:It's a tie-in comic?3:This wiki hardly listens to other users to the point where i should be yelling.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:57,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Exodus mentions the video game in its trade dress in several places. Also, as I said, it's not even a comic.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:16, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> hmmmmm, so which one is the g1 prequel because high moon sayed their storyline was a g1 prequel(read interviews).And they came out first and hasbro is just trying to jazz things up with things like Exodus and the prime cartoon(which is sayed to be a movie prequel but I don't know).--[[Primetime|Primetime]] 01:36,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Exodus was released on the same day as War for Cybertron. Because, again, it's a marketing tie-in.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:40, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> Thats great! now like I sayed before is it G1 liked the interviews sayed or not like some of you keep saying(I mean the game).--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:26 7, July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :It's the backstory for the new continuity that the Prime cartoon on the Hub will share. This was confirmed at BotCon. The new continuity borrows elements from several past ones, including a movie-style AllSpark, a series of space bridges leading to Cybertronian colonies a la Galaxy Force/Cybertron, the Elite Guard from Animated, the Wreckers, and a great many other nods to previous work. It is not exclusively G1 that is referenced.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:37, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::NO IT IS NOT G1. STOP INTERPRETING STUFF HIGH MOON STUDIOS SAID SO THE GAME WOULD SELL BETTER AS WORD OF GOD. <br /> ::I had to get that out of my system. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 02:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :If it's G1, why is there an AllSpark cube? Why is Bumblebee mute? And what's Gigantion doing there? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 09:46, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, Thy, that's all stuff from the Exodus novel, not WFC proper. They're tied together, but the original poster was only speaking about the game. (Annoyingly enough, Bumblebee loses his voice in the novel before the events of the game (loosely) take place, making Bumblebee's talking kind of, you know, another fun discrepancy.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:48, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> SOOO doesn't that mean the Exodus Novel and the game are not related due to the MAJOR differences in the storyline(because honestly the game seems REALLY like its a G1 prequel).And if you disagree explain why bumblebee can suddenly talk again and he is just meeting optimus and ratchet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:00,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> : If it fits with G1 how come the designs are different, Dinobots, Combaticons and Aerialbots are present, the origin of Optimus is different, the origin of the Matrix is different, the way they leave the planet is different etc. etc. etc. etc.? {{unsigned|201.88.66.127|12:16, 7 July 2010}}<br /> ::That's been done all the time. The cartoon characters had different Cybertronian forms than the Dreamwave characters, but they're both G1. Plus, the Dinobots, Stunticons et al were in the War Within. Still, this game isn't G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 12:27, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Those wouldn't keep it out of G1, but DO prevent it from being the backstory to the G1 toon. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:36, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> : Inconsistencies in story do not magically make Exodus anything other than a marketing tie-in to the game. They are intended to go together. If you likewise choose to ignore the fact that Hasbro have said that this will continue on into Prime and beyond, I don't know what more we can get out of this discussion.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 12:26, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> Okay High moon is STILL saying their game is a prequel to G1 even after they released the game.We SHOULD make new WFC pages,or link them back to G1.Forget hasbro right now I'm talking about High moon and their intentions for their game.No prime or Exodus.---[[Primetime|Primetime]] 1:14, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :WFC is part of the backstory for TF:Prime. It seems like it can apply to G1 too because TF:Prime is deliberately mirroring a lot of G1, especially in past setup. But they're not the same and we will not treat them the same. Unless High Moon is also writing the next cartoon, that's that. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 13:25, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::&quot;Forget Hasbro&quot;? You do realize that Hasbro has the final say on things, not High Moon. High Moon's statements are simply marketing, not fiction. Of course, why we are bothering to try to explain this to someone whose grasp of English does not include the simple word &quot;said&quot; is beyond me. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:36, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::This is either a troll or someone who does not understand English. (Who, BTW, happens to share his username with a notorious Wikipedia troll/vandal) Either way this is getting ridiculous. High Moon DOES NOT have the final say on this stuff, their statement about WFC being G1 WAS intended to get more people to buy the game, YOU ARE AN ANNOYING LITTLE MAN, Primetime. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:54, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> (sighs)Okay look,lets drop this WHOLE topic.I might have misspelled on ACCIDENT and generally I was asking a question that you guys kept dodging.I'm not a troll(never heard of the ''notorious troll on wikia before that your talking about'')so lets leave it alone and keep igonoring my question and get on with our lives.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:12, 7 July 2010 (EDT)</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* G1? */</p> <hr /> <div>== G1 Characters ==<br /> <br /> Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> :There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?<br /> :Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say &quot;assumption&quot; isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)<br /> :::The TFW2005 interview states it's &quot;not connected to any particular generation&quot; and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)<br /> ::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::::::How about &quot;WFC&quot;? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> :::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using &quot;WFC&quot; to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)<br /> :::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview &quot;Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe.&quot; The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying &quot;Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not,&quot; or vice-versa &quot;anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?&quot; A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. &quot;Its prehistory is very slightly different&quot; will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than &quot;influenced by it&quot; I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> <br /> To me, this seems every bit as G1 as War Within - Yeah it branches out into it's own story but it's hard to deny that this isn't just as G1 as DW or IDW comics given the use of characters and story telling style. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}} 08:55, 28 June 2010<br /> <br /> == The New trailer ==<br /> <br /> should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> preety much.<br /> <br /> == Logos ==<br /> <br /> I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Starscream? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the &quot;Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault&quot; picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010<br /> Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]<br /> ::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::: I'd say more &quot;Classics-ized&quot; versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Fresh trailer guys ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage<br /> <br /> Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...<br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Third link in &quot;external links&quot; at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Character Sources?==<br /> I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> : For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Release date==<br /> Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)<br /> sweetness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Motormaster ==<br /> <br /> Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version: <br /> http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg<br /> <br /> Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game. <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html<br /> : I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Interview and more gameplay and footage ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story<br /> <br /> Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.<br /> <br /> -Aaron Archer<br /> <br /> -It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.<br /> <br /> -Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?<br /> <br /> -And much more...<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> <br /> == No PSP option... ==<br /> <br /> Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I think its a &quot;revised&quot;<br /> backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Voice actor thing ==<br /> <br /> I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending &quot;false&quot; information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.<br /> :So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with &quot;AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego&quot; and &quot;Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]&quot;. Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not &quot;We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia.&quot; --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with &quot;idiots&quot; over &quot;cover-up&quot;. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> According to IMDB, Soundwave is played by [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0071818/ Jeff Bennet]. Is this legit enough for this wiki? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:22, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Nuh-uh. IMDB is like Wiki where any user can edit the content, be it actual or junk. I rather wait till an official announcement from either Activision or High Moon themselves. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:54, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == New Characters' pages? ==<br /> VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?<br /> : We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)<br /> <br /> VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> <br /> :The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out &quot;Oops, they're part of G1&quot; and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> :I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jazz? ==<br /> <br /> The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave<br /> <br /> == Image Captions/Quotes ==<br /> <br /> So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?<br /> <br /> And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.<br /> <br /> ''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''<br /> <br /> Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved<br /> <br /> [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)<br /> :By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same &quot;gritty dark&quot; feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: &quot;Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little.&quot; Omega Supreme's picture: &quot;Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off.&quot; Megatron: &quot;I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered.&quot; Bumblebee: &quot;Little people first!&quot;<br /> ::For Starscream joining the Decepticons, &quot;What would you have your Arbiter do?&quot; [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 00:36, 06 June 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == New characters ==<br /> <br /> Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the &quot;embargo&quot; pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream_%28WFC%29|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[Special:Contributions/98.204.17.1|98.204.17.1]] 17:45, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Short Answer: No. Long Answer: Well, probably not, they're almost crtainly actual characters in the story version of the game from what we've seen, but no one will know 100% for sure until the game is out and we play through and see. But still, likely, no. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:00, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==<br /> <br /> [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&amp;postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::&quot;Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS...&quot; So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Picked my copy up and it is rather a bit more close to Exodus from the reviews elsewhere. While I don't have a copy of Exodus on hand yet, the charges against Megatron that includes bombing Six Lasers Over Cybertron and kidnapping Sentinel Prime is mentioned. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:20, 24 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Feel free to edit the article I set up at my [[User:Lonegamer78/Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|sandbox]] until we can figure out where to place the comic's article. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == For now... ==<br /> <br /> ...I'm deciding WfC is classified as a Primax-cluster universe. Now that the toys are sort of out, we really need to stick them ''somewhere''. And there's been nothing indicated that its universe isn't terribly G1y. This could change in the future as we come to understand its universe better, but we can move it then. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 2 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm beginning to wonder if the &quot;G1 continuity family&quot; is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't &quot;terribly G1y&quot; in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Division by Game? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> At some point soon are we going to need to give this page a major overhaul? From the sounds of it the Wii and DS versions are going to have signifigant enough character and play differnces that talking about it all as &quot;one single game&quot; would likely become counterproductive. Don't have the time right now to check but isn't that how we've handled multiplatform games in the past? A 360/PS3 section, a Wii section and a DS section? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:15, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I know there are two seperate articles for the PS1 and N64 versions of the Beast Wars Transmetal fighting games. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:54, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::The games actually have different names, as well. The Wii version is called Transformers: Cybertron Adventures. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 23:55, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Usually there's seperate pages for different versions of the games, there'll probably be one for this game too. Might be better to wait until they're out though. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:25, 11 June 2010 (GMT)<br /> <br /> == Matt Tieger Says... ==<br /> I am, right now, listening to a Kotaku podcast where they are interviewing Matt Tieger, and he says War for Cybertron is &quot;like a prequel to G1.&quot; http://ca.kotaku.com/5559654/its-a-prime-time-to-talk-transformers<br /> So, is this confirmation of being G1, or do we still wait until the game or official fiction is released? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:01, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I think the keywords is that he used &quot;like a&quot; on describing WfC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:07, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Another note from the podcast: Matt Tieger says that Corey Burton is NOT the voice of Shockwave, but rather they got a sound-alike. Should this be worth mentioning? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Matt Tieger has also said that WFC is a direct prequel to the G1 cartoon, which is impossible on several levels given what we know. I think a lot of what he says is to get people to buy the game (SHOCK SHOCK I KNOW) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DS Version ==<br /> <br /> Source for all of these &quot;DS-only&quot; guys? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:34, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : People who've played the game. I myself have seen Kup and Dirge fairly early on in the Toys R Us demo version. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:38, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: After going through the game, Kup's actually not playable, never featured beyond his portrait appearing in the tutorial. Hot Rod, on the other hand, is in, though he's named Hot Shot. On the decepticon side, there's also Ramjet, Motormaster and Dragstrip--[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 05:46, 23 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Box Art==<br /> <br /> I have a picture of the Box Art, should I upload it, and if there's a version already here, shouldn't we use it as the Main Picture? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 13:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==<br /> <br /> == I know some missons! ==<br /> <br /> I resantly looked at campaign and misson desighn and it showed the names of some missons lets add that.<br /> :Where did you look at them? Were they officially released by Hasbro/the programming company? If not, then they are not eligible for inclusion on this wiki. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:54, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> yes,<br /> confirmed misson names are <br /> defend iacon,<br /> death of hope,<br /> the final guardian,<br /> fuel of war,<br /> iacon destroyed,<br /> false propaganda,<br /> decagon plaza<br /> these are a few confirmed missons<br /> :Where were they released? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:57, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Confirmed by high moon.<br /> :Where? When? Source, please? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> www.transformersgame.com go to media videos then behind the sceans campagn and misson desighn then when hes choosing a level he scrolls throgh these levels.<br /> <br /> ==James Remar==<br /> So, was this actually confirmed? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:57, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : I also would like to know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I as well, but I like Remar so I filled out his article anyway. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:21, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Given the fact you jumped all over me for that Ausgamers thing, I would have thought this article's creation would have caused some discussion. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:52, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Yeah well I figured with the article locked from anons... the WfC page would've been spared from unsourced statements. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:56, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Someone also added the WfC Starscream thing back onto [[Doug Parker]]'s article. Has THAT been confirmed? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 21:39, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::You know... seeing as how a few folks on the Allspark have snagged copies early, why not just beg them in the thread or PM or something if they can upload screenies/scans (whichever is applicable) of the credits for us? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:40, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::Never mind, now that I'm caught up over there, I see [[User:abates|abates]] already did that. XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:44, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-war-cybertron-discussion/309191-transformers-war-cybertron-cast-spoiler.html Spotted this over on TFW2005], FWIW. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Megatron's voiced by [[Fred Tatasciore]], apparently. (BRB, making new actor pages. :P) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 22:22, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::I will totally fist-pump if he is, because I freakin' called that in ''January''. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 03:49, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Profiles? ==<br /> <br /> Should we bother linking to all of the available official website character profiles, or are we just going to remove the existing links once the game comes out? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:07, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : They count as G1 canon so we should keep them linked to their G1 counterparts.--[[User:Primetime]] 12:06, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: That's not what Jeysie is talking about. She's talking about the links to the official WFC website. &quot;official website character profiles.&quot; Me, uh, I don't really have an opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: Yeah, Walky got it in one.<br /> ::: I guess my confusion was... I wasn't sure if the links were intended as information (in which case, might as well keep 'em), or just as sources for the character being in the game (in which case, once we get an official credits list from the game itself, said sources aren't really needed).<br /> ::: Not that I'm fussed either way... I just was itching to be consistent, and wasn't sure if that involved linking or deleting. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:14, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: For me, more info is almost always better. Link!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Name?==<br /> <br /> Is there a name for the guy I'm referring to as &quot;Giant Autobot tank thing that you fight before Zeta Prime&quot;? He has lines and stuff, but he didn't really look like anybody I recognized. (I refuse to call him by the name &quot;that guy who kicked my ass about a dozen times until I got lucky.&quot;) {{unsigned|Skyshock Thunderblast}} 09:22, 25 June 2010<br /> :I'm pretty sure he's just a generic. You fight a few more during the Decepticon campaign, and some more during the Autobot campaign. I know they call the Decepticon ones &quot;Destroyers,&quot; but I'm not sure what the Autobot ones are called. The loading-screen hints refer to them as, simply, Tanks. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I had assumed &quot;Destroyer&quot; was for both Autobots and Decepticons with that body-type. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:06, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I assumed that as well, but I was just going with what I knew for certain. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:27, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: I would SWEAR I heard one of the other Autobots refer to him by name. Well, Matt Tieger from Full Moon is at BC this year. Ask him? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:56, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::: Tanks for Autobots, Destroyers for Decepticons, according to the subtitles.<br /> == DS Profile Pictures ==<br /> <br /> Any use in screenshots for the characters as they appear in the DS Game? Will also be able to get console versions soon too.<br /> --[[User:Scatterlung|Scatterlung]] 14:22, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Who's the blue Autobot Tank? ==<br /> In the concept art (autobot recruits section, i believe) and the credits, there is a blue Autobot tank that clearly is not a blue version of Warpath, and looks like a completely different design. Is this a reference to a real Transformers character? ''(i don't know everything there is to know about transformers, so to those who do, please have mercy...)'' [[Special:Contributions/24.145.176.54|24.145.176.54]] 14:08, 26 June 2010 (EDT)unregistered contributor (has accounts on other wikis, but doesn't work on this one)<br /> :I'd say Twin Twist; while it's obviously not a jumpstarter, he's the closest thing to a blue and white Autobot tank I could find. The real mystery is why the Constructicon truck and this guy aren't in the game, since those faction/classes only have one mesh right now.<br /> ::I strongly doubt it's Twin Twist. Can you give us any more details about the character? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:59, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I think it's just the model for the generic Autobot tank soldiers you fight in the game. It may not actually be that color of blue (some of the character models aren't the final colors). --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::It certainly isn't, because there aren't any. Is there any real reason it can't be Twin Twist? I can post a pic, but he doesn't look much like anyone in particular (much as the purple/green constructicon doesn't either). Tanks (or heavy enough to be tanks) are rare enough on the Autobot side to narrow it down pretty quickly: the only guys that jump out at me are Twin Twist or animated Sentinel Prime. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pnakotus/tf/IMG_0550.jpg. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.127.90|118.208.127.90]]<br /> :I have the 360 game the guy is in the credits sinama. I think he may be a sneek peak at ultar magnus for this game but thats just my gess. {{unsigned|74.103.61.137}} 06:12, 28 June 2010<br /> :The PC version, having all the bot names apparent on characters' model files, names him as Scattershot.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:50, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Aha, so I was right. Because his head, colors, and altmode are 100% Cybertron Defense [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:54, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Maybe its time for a cleanup ==<br /> <br /> The game is out, the preview stuff is now irrelevant, and solid information regarding plot, characters, continuity etc is available. Devoting 33% of the article to a promotional webgame that hasn't told us anything for six months is ... strange.<br /> :I've worked a bit on the article today. Did a synopsis for the 360 version, but I don't own the Wii or DS ones. Someone else will have to help with those. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:27, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I'd suggest moving the Gallery to the end, using a more TFwiki standard arrangement of images/references/voice actors/etc, removing the useless 'Transmission Recovery' section, and expanding the references section (Primus, conversion cog, etc). [[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::Perhaps the 'Transmission Recovery' section could be split into a new article? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:24, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Sure, but the game isn't playable anymore and the video you 'recover' is just one of the trailers that are freely available.[[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::::Okay, the sections are shuffled to be more logical and in line with other articles. What happened to the plot synopsis? [[User:Pnakotus|Pnakotus]] 00:54, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Advice on writing up the weapons.==<br /> I think the game's variety of weapons deserves a write-up, but I'm not sure if I should make individual pages for them or just put them all on one page. Information for the Null Ray, for example, was already sort-of mentioned on the page for the G1 [[Null ray]]. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I went ahead and made a page for all of the weapons. Definitely needs pics, though... --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 17:01, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I think they really need to have individual pages - the list page doesn't really fit in with how we do things. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Can we lock these WFC articles down? ==<br /> <br /> Or else I'm going to be spending the rest of my time on the wiki attempting to write WFC articles only to have to clean up after anon users (and relatively new members who don't know how to write in our style). Then I will give up because the articles are now too much work to get up to standards, video gamers who edited these articles have amazingly short attention spans and have left, and I'm the only one left who edits these things, as seen here last year: [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)]] *cries* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:29, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Which ones? just the main game articles? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:19, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Probably for the best. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:01, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Hey, I can still edit these things too! I need to...uh...actually finish the game first, though. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:38, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == G1? ==<br /> <br /> This game SHOULD NOT be connected to the prime series.WHICH IS WHY HASBRO PUT THIS AS CANNON TO THE G1 series.you can not tell me that the storline for the game is the same as the exodus comic book.-- [[user:Primetime]] july 6,2010 (EDT)<br /> :We might take you more seriously if you're not screaming at us and misspelling &quot;canon&quot;. Just a suggestion. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:39, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, Exodus isn't a comic book, and it's marketed as a tie-in novel to the game. So for all intents and purposes it is the novelization of the game, even if it's not exactly the same.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :They did? When? Where? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:49, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> 1:I'm not yelling,I just typed it that way.2:It's a tie-in comic?3:This wiki hardly listens to other users to the point where i should be yelling.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:57,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Exodus mentions the video game in its trade dress in several places. Also, as I said, it's not even a comic.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:16, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> hmmmmm, so which one is the g1 prequel because high moon sayed their storyline was a g1 prequel(read interviews).And they came out first and hasbro is just trying to jazz things up with things like Exodus and the prime cartoon(which is sayed to be a movie prequel but I don't know).--[[Primetime|Primetime]] 01:36,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Exodus was released on the same day as War for Cybertron. Because, again, it's a marketing tie-in.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:40, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> Thats great! now like I sayed before is it G1 liked the interviews sayed or not like some of you keep saying(I mean the game).--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:26 7, July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :It's the backstory for the new continuity that the Prime cartoon on the Hub will share. This was confirmed at BotCon. The new continuity borrows elements from several past ones, including a movie-style AllSpark, a series of space bridges leading to Cybertronian colonies a la Galaxy Force/Cybertron, the Elite Guard from Animated, the Wreckers, and a great many other nods to previous work. It is not exclusively G1 that is referenced.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:37, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::NO IT IS NOT G1. STOP INTERPRETING STUFF HIGH MOON STUDIOS SAID SO THE GAME WOULD SELL BETTER AS WORD OF GOD. <br /> ::I had to get that out of my system. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 02:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :If it's G1, why is there an AllSpark cube? Why is Bumblebee mute? And what's Gigantion doing there? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 09:46, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, Thy, that's all stuff from the Exodus novel, not WFC proper. They're tied together, but the original poster was only speaking about the game. (Annoyingly enough, Bumblebee loses his voice in the novel before the events of the game (loosely) take place, making Bumblebee's talking kind of, you know, another fun discrepancy.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:48, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> SOOO doesn't that mean the Exodus Novel and the game are not related due to the MAJOR differences in the storyline(because honestly the game seems REALLY like its a G1 prequel).And if you disagree explain why bumblebee can suddenly talk again and he is just meeting optimus and ratchet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:00,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> : If it fits with G1 how come the designs are different, Dinobots, Combaticons and Aerialbots are present, the origin of Optimus is different, the origin of the Matrix is different, the way they leave the planet is different etc. etc. etc. etc.? {{unsigned|201.88.66.127|12:16, 7 July 2010}}<br /> ::That's been done all the time. The cartoon characters had different Cybertronian forms than the Dreamwave characters, but they're both G1. Plus, the Dinobots, Stunticons et al were in the War Within. Still, this game isn't G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 12:27, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> : Inconsistencies in story do not magically make Exodus anything other than a marketing tie-in to the game. They are intended to go together. If you likewise choose to ignore the fact that Hasbro have said that this will continue on into Prime and beyond, I don't know what more we can get out of this discussion.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 12:26, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> Okay High moon is STILL saying their game is a prequel to G1 even after they released the game.We SHOULD make new WFC pages,or link them back to G1.Forget hasbro right now I'm talking about High moon and their intentions for their game.No prime or Exodus.---[[Primetime|Primetime]] 1:14, 7 July 2010 (EDT)</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* G1? */</p> <hr /> <div>== G1 Characters ==<br /> <br /> Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> :There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?<br /> :Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say &quot;assumption&quot; isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)<br /> :::The TFW2005 interview states it's &quot;not connected to any particular generation&quot; and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)<br /> ::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::::::How about &quot;WFC&quot;? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> :::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using &quot;WFC&quot; to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)<br /> :::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview &quot;Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe.&quot; The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying &quot;Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not,&quot; or vice-versa &quot;anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?&quot; A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. &quot;Its prehistory is very slightly different&quot; will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than &quot;influenced by it&quot; I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> <br /> To me, this seems every bit as G1 as War Within - Yeah it branches out into it's own story but it's hard to deny that this isn't just as G1 as DW or IDW comics given the use of characters and story telling style. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}} 08:55, 28 June 2010<br /> <br /> == The New trailer ==<br /> <br /> should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> preety much.<br /> <br /> == Logos ==<br /> <br /> I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Starscream? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the &quot;Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault&quot; picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010<br /> Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]<br /> ::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::: I'd say more &quot;Classics-ized&quot; versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Fresh trailer guys ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage<br /> <br /> Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...<br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Third link in &quot;external links&quot; at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Character Sources?==<br /> I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> : For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Release date==<br /> Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)<br /> sweetness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Motormaster ==<br /> <br /> Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version: <br /> http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg<br /> <br /> Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game. <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html<br /> : I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Interview and more gameplay and footage ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story<br /> <br /> Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.<br /> <br /> -Aaron Archer<br /> <br /> -It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.<br /> <br /> -Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?<br /> <br /> -And much more...<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> <br /> == No PSP option... ==<br /> <br /> Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I think its a &quot;revised&quot;<br /> backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Voice actor thing ==<br /> <br /> I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending &quot;false&quot; information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.<br /> :So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with &quot;AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego&quot; and &quot;Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]&quot;. Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not &quot;We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia.&quot; --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with &quot;idiots&quot; over &quot;cover-up&quot;. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> According to IMDB, Soundwave is played by [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0071818/ Jeff Bennet]. Is this legit enough for this wiki? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:22, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Nuh-uh. IMDB is like Wiki where any user can edit the content, be it actual or junk. I rather wait till an official announcement from either Activision or High Moon themselves. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:54, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == New Characters' pages? ==<br /> VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?<br /> : We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)<br /> <br /> VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> <br /> :The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out &quot;Oops, they're part of G1&quot; and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> :I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jazz? ==<br /> <br /> The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave<br /> <br /> == Image Captions/Quotes ==<br /> <br /> So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?<br /> <br /> And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.<br /> <br /> ''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''<br /> <br /> Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved<br /> <br /> [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)<br /> :By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same &quot;gritty dark&quot; feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: &quot;Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little.&quot; Omega Supreme's picture: &quot;Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off.&quot; Megatron: &quot;I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered.&quot; Bumblebee: &quot;Little people first!&quot;<br /> ::For Starscream joining the Decepticons, &quot;What would you have your Arbiter do?&quot; [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 00:36, 06 June 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == New characters ==<br /> <br /> Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the &quot;embargo&quot; pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream_%28WFC%29|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[Special:Contributions/98.204.17.1|98.204.17.1]] 17:45, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Short Answer: No. Long Answer: Well, probably not, they're almost crtainly actual characters in the story version of the game from what we've seen, but no one will know 100% for sure until the game is out and we play through and see. But still, likely, no. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:00, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==<br /> <br /> [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&amp;postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::&quot;Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS...&quot; So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Picked my copy up and it is rather a bit more close to Exodus from the reviews elsewhere. While I don't have a copy of Exodus on hand yet, the charges against Megatron that includes bombing Six Lasers Over Cybertron and kidnapping Sentinel Prime is mentioned. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:20, 24 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Feel free to edit the article I set up at my [[User:Lonegamer78/Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|sandbox]] until we can figure out where to place the comic's article. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == For now... ==<br /> <br /> ...I'm deciding WfC is classified as a Primax-cluster universe. Now that the toys are sort of out, we really need to stick them ''somewhere''. And there's been nothing indicated that its universe isn't terribly G1y. This could change in the future as we come to understand its universe better, but we can move it then. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 2 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm beginning to wonder if the &quot;G1 continuity family&quot; is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't &quot;terribly G1y&quot; in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Division by Game? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> At some point soon are we going to need to give this page a major overhaul? From the sounds of it the Wii and DS versions are going to have signifigant enough character and play differnces that talking about it all as &quot;one single game&quot; would likely become counterproductive. Don't have the time right now to check but isn't that how we've handled multiplatform games in the past? A 360/PS3 section, a Wii section and a DS section? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:15, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I know there are two seperate articles for the PS1 and N64 versions of the Beast Wars Transmetal fighting games. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:54, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::The games actually have different names, as well. The Wii version is called Transformers: Cybertron Adventures. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 23:55, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Usually there's seperate pages for different versions of the games, there'll probably be one for this game too. Might be better to wait until they're out though. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:25, 11 June 2010 (GMT)<br /> <br /> == Matt Tieger Says... ==<br /> I am, right now, listening to a Kotaku podcast where they are interviewing Matt Tieger, and he says War for Cybertron is &quot;like a prequel to G1.&quot; http://ca.kotaku.com/5559654/its-a-prime-time-to-talk-transformers<br /> So, is this confirmation of being G1, or do we still wait until the game or official fiction is released? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:01, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I think the keywords is that he used &quot;like a&quot; on describing WfC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:07, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Another note from the podcast: Matt Tieger says that Corey Burton is NOT the voice of Shockwave, but rather they got a sound-alike. Should this be worth mentioning? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Matt Tieger has also said that WFC is a direct prequel to the G1 cartoon, which is impossible on several levels given what we know. I think a lot of what he says is to get people to buy the game (SHOCK SHOCK I KNOW) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DS Version ==<br /> <br /> Source for all of these &quot;DS-only&quot; guys? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:34, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : People who've played the game. I myself have seen Kup and Dirge fairly early on in the Toys R Us demo version. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:38, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: After going through the game, Kup's actually not playable, never featured beyond his portrait appearing in the tutorial. Hot Rod, on the other hand, is in, though he's named Hot Shot. On the decepticon side, there's also Ramjet, Motormaster and Dragstrip--[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 05:46, 23 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Box Art==<br /> <br /> I have a picture of the Box Art, should I upload it, and if there's a version already here, shouldn't we use it as the Main Picture? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 13:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==<br /> <br /> == I know some missons! ==<br /> <br /> I resantly looked at campaign and misson desighn and it showed the names of some missons lets add that.<br /> :Where did you look at them? Were they officially released by Hasbro/the programming company? If not, then they are not eligible for inclusion on this wiki. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:54, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> yes,<br /> confirmed misson names are <br /> defend iacon,<br /> death of hope,<br /> the final guardian,<br /> fuel of war,<br /> iacon destroyed,<br /> false propaganda,<br /> decagon plaza<br /> these are a few confirmed missons<br /> :Where were they released? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:57, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Confirmed by high moon.<br /> :Where? When? Source, please? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> www.transformersgame.com go to media videos then behind the sceans campagn and misson desighn then when hes choosing a level he scrolls throgh these levels.<br /> <br /> ==James Remar==<br /> So, was this actually confirmed? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:57, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : I also would like to know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I as well, but I like Remar so I filled out his article anyway. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:21, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Given the fact you jumped all over me for that Ausgamers thing, I would have thought this article's creation would have caused some discussion. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:52, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Yeah well I figured with the article locked from anons... the WfC page would've been spared from unsourced statements. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:56, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Someone also added the WfC Starscream thing back onto [[Doug Parker]]'s article. Has THAT been confirmed? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 21:39, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::You know... seeing as how a few folks on the Allspark have snagged copies early, why not just beg them in the thread or PM or something if they can upload screenies/scans (whichever is applicable) of the credits for us? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:40, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::Never mind, now that I'm caught up over there, I see [[User:abates|abates]] already did that. XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:44, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-war-cybertron-discussion/309191-transformers-war-cybertron-cast-spoiler.html Spotted this over on TFW2005], FWIW. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Megatron's voiced by [[Fred Tatasciore]], apparently. (BRB, making new actor pages. :P) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 22:22, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::I will totally fist-pump if he is, because I freakin' called that in ''January''. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 03:49, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Profiles? ==<br /> <br /> Should we bother linking to all of the available official website character profiles, or are we just going to remove the existing links once the game comes out? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:07, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : They count as G1 canon so we should keep them linked to their G1 counterparts.--[[User:Primetime]] 12:06, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: That's not what Jeysie is talking about. She's talking about the links to the official WFC website. &quot;official website character profiles.&quot; Me, uh, I don't really have an opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: Yeah, Walky got it in one.<br /> ::: I guess my confusion was... I wasn't sure if the links were intended as information (in which case, might as well keep 'em), or just as sources for the character being in the game (in which case, once we get an official credits list from the game itself, said sources aren't really needed).<br /> ::: Not that I'm fussed either way... I just was itching to be consistent, and wasn't sure if that involved linking or deleting. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:14, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: For me, more info is almost always better. Link!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Name?==<br /> <br /> Is there a name for the guy I'm referring to as &quot;Giant Autobot tank thing that you fight before Zeta Prime&quot;? He has lines and stuff, but he didn't really look like anybody I recognized. (I refuse to call him by the name &quot;that guy who kicked my ass about a dozen times until I got lucky.&quot;) {{unsigned|Skyshock Thunderblast}} 09:22, 25 June 2010<br /> :I'm pretty sure he's just a generic. You fight a few more during the Decepticon campaign, and some more during the Autobot campaign. I know they call the Decepticon ones &quot;Destroyers,&quot; but I'm not sure what the Autobot ones are called. The loading-screen hints refer to them as, simply, Tanks. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I had assumed &quot;Destroyer&quot; was for both Autobots and Decepticons with that body-type. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:06, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I assumed that as well, but I was just going with what I knew for certain. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:27, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: I would SWEAR I heard one of the other Autobots refer to him by name. Well, Matt Tieger from Full Moon is at BC this year. Ask him? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:56, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::: Tanks for Autobots, Destroyers for Decepticons, according to the subtitles.<br /> == DS Profile Pictures ==<br /> <br /> Any use in screenshots for the characters as they appear in the DS Game? Will also be able to get console versions soon too.<br /> --[[User:Scatterlung|Scatterlung]] 14:22, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Who's the blue Autobot Tank? ==<br /> In the concept art (autobot recruits section, i believe) and the credits, there is a blue Autobot tank that clearly is not a blue version of Warpath, and looks like a completely different design. Is this a reference to a real Transformers character? ''(i don't know everything there is to know about transformers, so to those who do, please have mercy...)'' [[Special:Contributions/24.145.176.54|24.145.176.54]] 14:08, 26 June 2010 (EDT)unregistered contributor (has accounts on other wikis, but doesn't work on this one)<br /> :I'd say Twin Twist; while it's obviously not a jumpstarter, he's the closest thing to a blue and white Autobot tank I could find. The real mystery is why the Constructicon truck and this guy aren't in the game, since those faction/classes only have one mesh right now.<br /> ::I strongly doubt it's Twin Twist. Can you give us any more details about the character? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:59, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I think it's just the model for the generic Autobot tank soldiers you fight in the game. It may not actually be that color of blue (some of the character models aren't the final colors). --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::It certainly isn't, because there aren't any. Is there any real reason it can't be Twin Twist? I can post a pic, but he doesn't look much like anyone in particular (much as the purple/green constructicon doesn't either). Tanks (or heavy enough to be tanks) are rare enough on the Autobot side to narrow it down pretty quickly: the only guys that jump out at me are Twin Twist or animated Sentinel Prime. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pnakotus/tf/IMG_0550.jpg. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.127.90|118.208.127.90]]<br /> :I have the 360 game the guy is in the credits sinama. I think he may be a sneek peak at ultar magnus for this game but thats just my gess. {{unsigned|74.103.61.137}} 06:12, 28 June 2010<br /> :The PC version, having all the bot names apparent on characters' model files, names him as Scattershot.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:50, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Aha, so I was right. Because his head, colors, and altmode are 100% Cybertron Defense [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:54, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Maybe its time for a cleanup ==<br /> <br /> The game is out, the preview stuff is now irrelevant, and solid information regarding plot, characters, continuity etc is available. Devoting 33% of the article to a promotional webgame that hasn't told us anything for six months is ... strange.<br /> :I've worked a bit on the article today. Did a synopsis for the 360 version, but I don't own the Wii or DS ones. Someone else will have to help with those. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:27, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I'd suggest moving the Gallery to the end, using a more TFwiki standard arrangement of images/references/voice actors/etc, removing the useless 'Transmission Recovery' section, and expanding the references section (Primus, conversion cog, etc). [[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::Perhaps the 'Transmission Recovery' section could be split into a new article? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:24, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Sure, but the game isn't playable anymore and the video you 'recover' is just one of the trailers that are freely available.[[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::::Okay, the sections are shuffled to be more logical and in line with other articles. What happened to the plot synopsis? [[User:Pnakotus|Pnakotus]] 00:54, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Advice on writing up the weapons.==<br /> I think the game's variety of weapons deserves a write-up, but I'm not sure if I should make individual pages for them or just put them all on one page. Information for the Null Ray, for example, was already sort-of mentioned on the page for the G1 [[Null ray]]. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I went ahead and made a page for all of the weapons. Definitely needs pics, though... --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 17:01, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I think they really need to have individual pages - the list page doesn't really fit in with how we do things. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Can we lock these WFC articles down? ==<br /> <br /> Or else I'm going to be spending the rest of my time on the wiki attempting to write WFC articles only to have to clean up after anon users (and relatively new members who don't know how to write in our style). Then I will give up because the articles are now too much work to get up to standards, video gamers who edited these articles have amazingly short attention spans and have left, and I'm the only one left who edits these things, as seen here last year: [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)]] *cries* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:29, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Which ones? just the main game articles? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:19, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Probably for the best. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:01, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Hey, I can still edit these things too! I need to...uh...actually finish the game first, though. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:38, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == G1? ==<br /> <br /> This game SHOULD NOT be connected to the prime series.WHICH IS WHY HASBRO PUT THIS AS CANNON TO THE G1 series.you can not tell me that the storline for the game is the same as the exodus comic book.-- [[user:Primetime]] july 6,2010 (EDT)<br /> :We might take you more seriously if you're not screaming at us and misspelling &quot;canon&quot;. Just a suggestion. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:39, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, Exodus isn't a comic book, and it's marketed as a tie-in novel to the game. So for all intents and purposes it is the novelization of the game, even if it's not exactly the same.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :They did? When? Where? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:49, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> 1:I'm not yelling,I just typed it that way.2:It's a tie-in comic?3:This wiki hardly listens to other users to the point where i should be yelling.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:57,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Exodus mentions the video game in its trade dress in several places. Also, as I said, it's not even a comic.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:16, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> hmmmmm, so which one is the g1 prequel because high moon sayed their storyline was a g1 prequel(read interviews).And they came out first and hasbro is just trying to jazz things up with things like Exodus and the prime cartoon(which is sayed to be a movie prequel but I don't know).--[[Primetime|Primetime]] 01:36,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Exodus was released on the same day as War for Cybertron. Because, again, it's a marketing tie-in.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:40, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> Thats great! now like I sayed before is it G1 liked the interviews sayed or not like some of you keep saying(I mean the game).--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:26 7, July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :It's the backstory for the new continuity that the Prime cartoon on the Hub will share. This was confirmed at BotCon. The new continuity borrows elements from several past ones, including a movie-style AllSpark, a series of space bridges leading to Cybertronian colonies a la Galaxy Force/Cybertron, the Elite Guard from Animated, the Wreckers, and a great many other nods to previous work. It is not exclusively G1 that is referenced.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:37, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::NO IT IS NOT G1. STOP INTERPRETING STUFF HIGH MOON STUDIOS SAID SO THE GAME WOULD SELL BETTER AS WORD OF GOD. <br /> ::I had to get that out of my system. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 02:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :If it's G1, why is there an AllSpark cube? Why is Bumblebee mute? And what's Gigantion doing there? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 09:46, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, Thy, that's all stuff from the Exodus novel, not WFC proper. They're tied together, but the original poster was only speaking about the game. (Annoyingly enough, Bumblebee loses his voice in the novel before the events of the game (loosely) take place, making Bumblebee's talking kind of, you know, another fun discrepancy.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:48, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> SOOO doesn't that mean the Exodus Novel and the game are not related due to the MAJOR differences in the storyline(because honestly the game seems REALLY like its a G1 prequel).And if you disagree explain why bumblebee can suddenly talk again and he is just meeting optimus and ratchet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:00,7 July 2010 (EDT)</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* G1? */</p> <hr /> <div>== G1 Characters ==<br /> <br /> Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> :There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?<br /> :Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say &quot;assumption&quot; isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)<br /> :::The TFW2005 interview states it's &quot;not connected to any particular generation&quot; and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)<br /> ::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::::::How about &quot;WFC&quot;? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> :::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using &quot;WFC&quot; to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)<br /> :::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview &quot;Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe.&quot; The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying &quot;Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not,&quot; or vice-versa &quot;anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?&quot; A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. &quot;Its prehistory is very slightly different&quot; will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than &quot;influenced by it&quot; I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> <br /> To me, this seems every bit as G1 as War Within - Yeah it branches out into it's own story but it's hard to deny that this isn't just as G1 as DW or IDW comics given the use of characters and story telling style. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}} 08:55, 28 June 2010<br /> <br /> == The New trailer ==<br /> <br /> should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> preety much.<br /> <br /> == Logos ==<br /> <br /> I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Starscream? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the &quot;Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault&quot; picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010<br /> Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]<br /> ::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::: I'd say more &quot;Classics-ized&quot; versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Fresh trailer guys ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage<br /> <br /> Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...<br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Third link in &quot;external links&quot; at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Character Sources?==<br /> I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> : For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Release date==<br /> Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)<br /> sweetness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Motormaster ==<br /> <br /> Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version: <br /> http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg<br /> <br /> Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game. <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html<br /> : I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Interview and more gameplay and footage ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story<br /> <br /> Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.<br /> <br /> -Aaron Archer<br /> <br /> -It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.<br /> <br /> -Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?<br /> <br /> -And much more...<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> <br /> == No PSP option... ==<br /> <br /> Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I think its a &quot;revised&quot;<br /> backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Voice actor thing ==<br /> <br /> I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending &quot;false&quot; information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.<br /> :So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with &quot;AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego&quot; and &quot;Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]&quot;. Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not &quot;We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia.&quot; --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with &quot;idiots&quot; over &quot;cover-up&quot;. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> According to IMDB, Soundwave is played by [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0071818/ Jeff Bennet]. Is this legit enough for this wiki? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:22, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Nuh-uh. IMDB is like Wiki where any user can edit the content, be it actual or junk. I rather wait till an official announcement from either Activision or High Moon themselves. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:54, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == New Characters' pages? ==<br /> VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?<br /> : We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)<br /> <br /> VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> <br /> :The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out &quot;Oops, they're part of G1&quot; and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> :I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jazz? ==<br /> <br /> The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave<br /> <br /> == Image Captions/Quotes ==<br /> <br /> So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?<br /> <br /> And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.<br /> <br /> ''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''<br /> <br /> Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved<br /> <br /> [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)<br /> :By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same &quot;gritty dark&quot; feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: &quot;Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little.&quot; Omega Supreme's picture: &quot;Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off.&quot; Megatron: &quot;I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered.&quot; Bumblebee: &quot;Little people first!&quot;<br /> ::For Starscream joining the Decepticons, &quot;What would you have your Arbiter do?&quot; [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 00:36, 06 June 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == New characters ==<br /> <br /> Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the &quot;embargo&quot; pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream_%28WFC%29|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[Special:Contributions/98.204.17.1|98.204.17.1]] 17:45, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Short Answer: No. Long Answer: Well, probably not, they're almost crtainly actual characters in the story version of the game from what we've seen, but no one will know 100% for sure until the game is out and we play through and see. But still, likely, no. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:00, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==<br /> <br /> [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&amp;postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::&quot;Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS...&quot; So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Picked my copy up and it is rather a bit more close to Exodus from the reviews elsewhere. While I don't have a copy of Exodus on hand yet, the charges against Megatron that includes bombing Six Lasers Over Cybertron and kidnapping Sentinel Prime is mentioned. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:20, 24 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Feel free to edit the article I set up at my [[User:Lonegamer78/Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|sandbox]] until we can figure out where to place the comic's article. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == For now... ==<br /> <br /> ...I'm deciding WfC is classified as a Primax-cluster universe. Now that the toys are sort of out, we really need to stick them ''somewhere''. And there's been nothing indicated that its universe isn't terribly G1y. This could change in the future as we come to understand its universe better, but we can move it then. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 2 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm beginning to wonder if the &quot;G1 continuity family&quot; is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't &quot;terribly G1y&quot; in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Division by Game? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> At some point soon are we going to need to give this page a major overhaul? From the sounds of it the Wii and DS versions are going to have signifigant enough character and play differnces that talking about it all as &quot;one single game&quot; would likely become counterproductive. Don't have the time right now to check but isn't that how we've handled multiplatform games in the past? A 360/PS3 section, a Wii section and a DS section? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:15, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I know there are two seperate articles for the PS1 and N64 versions of the Beast Wars Transmetal fighting games. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:54, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::The games actually have different names, as well. The Wii version is called Transformers: Cybertron Adventures. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 23:55, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Usually there's seperate pages for different versions of the games, there'll probably be one for this game too. Might be better to wait until they're out though. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:25, 11 June 2010 (GMT)<br /> <br /> == Matt Tieger Says... ==<br /> I am, right now, listening to a Kotaku podcast where they are interviewing Matt Tieger, and he says War for Cybertron is &quot;like a prequel to G1.&quot; http://ca.kotaku.com/5559654/its-a-prime-time-to-talk-transformers<br /> So, is this confirmation of being G1, or do we still wait until the game or official fiction is released? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:01, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I think the keywords is that he used &quot;like a&quot; on describing WfC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:07, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Another note from the podcast: Matt Tieger says that Corey Burton is NOT the voice of Shockwave, but rather they got a sound-alike. Should this be worth mentioning? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Matt Tieger has also said that WFC is a direct prequel to the G1 cartoon, which is impossible on several levels given what we know. I think a lot of what he says is to get people to buy the game (SHOCK SHOCK I KNOW) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DS Version ==<br /> <br /> Source for all of these &quot;DS-only&quot; guys? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:34, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : People who've played the game. I myself have seen Kup and Dirge fairly early on in the Toys R Us demo version. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:38, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: After going through the game, Kup's actually not playable, never featured beyond his portrait appearing in the tutorial. Hot Rod, on the other hand, is in, though he's named Hot Shot. On the decepticon side, there's also Ramjet, Motormaster and Dragstrip--[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 05:46, 23 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Box Art==<br /> <br /> I have a picture of the Box Art, should I upload it, and if there's a version already here, shouldn't we use it as the Main Picture? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 13:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==<br /> <br /> == I know some missons! ==<br /> <br /> I resantly looked at campaign and misson desighn and it showed the names of some missons lets add that.<br /> :Where did you look at them? Were they officially released by Hasbro/the programming company? If not, then they are not eligible for inclusion on this wiki. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:54, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> yes,<br /> confirmed misson names are <br /> defend iacon,<br /> death of hope,<br /> the final guardian,<br /> fuel of war,<br /> iacon destroyed,<br /> false propaganda,<br /> decagon plaza<br /> these are a few confirmed missons<br /> :Where were they released? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:57, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Confirmed by high moon.<br /> :Where? When? Source, please? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> www.transformersgame.com go to media videos then behind the sceans campagn and misson desighn then when hes choosing a level he scrolls throgh these levels.<br /> <br /> ==James Remar==<br /> So, was this actually confirmed? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:57, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : I also would like to know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I as well, but I like Remar so I filled out his article anyway. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:21, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Given the fact you jumped all over me for that Ausgamers thing, I would have thought this article's creation would have caused some discussion. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:52, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Yeah well I figured with the article locked from anons... the WfC page would've been spared from unsourced statements. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:56, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Someone also added the WfC Starscream thing back onto [[Doug Parker]]'s article. Has THAT been confirmed? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 21:39, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::You know... seeing as how a few folks on the Allspark have snagged copies early, why not just beg them in the thread or PM or something if they can upload screenies/scans (whichever is applicable) of the credits for us? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:40, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::Never mind, now that I'm caught up over there, I see [[User:abates|abates]] already did that. XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:44, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-war-cybertron-discussion/309191-transformers-war-cybertron-cast-spoiler.html Spotted this over on TFW2005], FWIW. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Megatron's voiced by [[Fred Tatasciore]], apparently. (BRB, making new actor pages. :P) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 22:22, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::I will totally fist-pump if he is, because I freakin' called that in ''January''. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 03:49, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Profiles? ==<br /> <br /> Should we bother linking to all of the available official website character profiles, or are we just going to remove the existing links once the game comes out? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:07, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : They count as G1 canon so we should keep them linked to their G1 counterparts.--[[User:Primetime]] 12:06, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: That's not what Jeysie is talking about. She's talking about the links to the official WFC website. &quot;official website character profiles.&quot; Me, uh, I don't really have an opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: Yeah, Walky got it in one.<br /> ::: I guess my confusion was... I wasn't sure if the links were intended as information (in which case, might as well keep 'em), or just as sources for the character being in the game (in which case, once we get an official credits list from the game itself, said sources aren't really needed).<br /> ::: Not that I'm fussed either way... I just was itching to be consistent, and wasn't sure if that involved linking or deleting. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:14, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: For me, more info is almost always better. Link!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Name?==<br /> <br /> Is there a name for the guy I'm referring to as &quot;Giant Autobot tank thing that you fight before Zeta Prime&quot;? He has lines and stuff, but he didn't really look like anybody I recognized. (I refuse to call him by the name &quot;that guy who kicked my ass about a dozen times until I got lucky.&quot;) {{unsigned|Skyshock Thunderblast}} 09:22, 25 June 2010<br /> :I'm pretty sure he's just a generic. You fight a few more during the Decepticon campaign, and some more during the Autobot campaign. I know they call the Decepticon ones &quot;Destroyers,&quot; but I'm not sure what the Autobot ones are called. The loading-screen hints refer to them as, simply, Tanks. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I had assumed &quot;Destroyer&quot; was for both Autobots and Decepticons with that body-type. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:06, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I assumed that as well, but I was just going with what I knew for certain. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:27, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: I would SWEAR I heard one of the other Autobots refer to him by name. Well, Matt Tieger from Full Moon is at BC this year. Ask him? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:56, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::: Tanks for Autobots, Destroyers for Decepticons, according to the subtitles.<br /> == DS Profile Pictures ==<br /> <br /> Any use in screenshots for the characters as they appear in the DS Game? Will also be able to get console versions soon too.<br /> --[[User:Scatterlung|Scatterlung]] 14:22, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Who's the blue Autobot Tank? ==<br /> In the concept art (autobot recruits section, i believe) and the credits, there is a blue Autobot tank that clearly is not a blue version of Warpath, and looks like a completely different design. Is this a reference to a real Transformers character? ''(i don't know everything there is to know about transformers, so to those who do, please have mercy...)'' [[Special:Contributions/24.145.176.54|24.145.176.54]] 14:08, 26 June 2010 (EDT)unregistered contributor (has accounts on other wikis, but doesn't work on this one)<br /> :I'd say Twin Twist; while it's obviously not a jumpstarter, he's the closest thing to a blue and white Autobot tank I could find. The real mystery is why the Constructicon truck and this guy aren't in the game, since those faction/classes only have one mesh right now.<br /> ::I strongly doubt it's Twin Twist. Can you give us any more details about the character? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:59, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I think it's just the model for the generic Autobot tank soldiers you fight in the game. It may not actually be that color of blue (some of the character models aren't the final colors). --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::It certainly isn't, because there aren't any. Is there any real reason it can't be Twin Twist? I can post a pic, but he doesn't look much like anyone in particular (much as the purple/green constructicon doesn't either). Tanks (or heavy enough to be tanks) are rare enough on the Autobot side to narrow it down pretty quickly: the only guys that jump out at me are Twin Twist or animated Sentinel Prime. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pnakotus/tf/IMG_0550.jpg. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.127.90|118.208.127.90]]<br /> :I have the 360 game the guy is in the credits sinama. I think he may be a sneek peak at ultar magnus for this game but thats just my gess. {{unsigned|74.103.61.137}} 06:12, 28 June 2010<br /> :The PC version, having all the bot names apparent on characters' model files, names him as Scattershot.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:50, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Aha, so I was right. Because his head, colors, and altmode are 100% Cybertron Defense [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:54, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Maybe its time for a cleanup ==<br /> <br /> The game is out, the preview stuff is now irrelevant, and solid information regarding plot, characters, continuity etc is available. Devoting 33% of the article to a promotional webgame that hasn't told us anything for six months is ... strange.<br /> :I've worked a bit on the article today. Did a synopsis for the 360 version, but I don't own the Wii or DS ones. Someone else will have to help with those. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:27, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I'd suggest moving the Gallery to the end, using a more TFwiki standard arrangement of images/references/voice actors/etc, removing the useless 'Transmission Recovery' section, and expanding the references section (Primus, conversion cog, etc). [[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::Perhaps the 'Transmission Recovery' section could be split into a new article? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:24, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Sure, but the game isn't playable anymore and the video you 'recover' is just one of the trailers that are freely available.[[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::::Okay, the sections are shuffled to be more logical and in line with other articles. What happened to the plot synopsis? [[User:Pnakotus|Pnakotus]] 00:54, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Advice on writing up the weapons.==<br /> I think the game's variety of weapons deserves a write-up, but I'm not sure if I should make individual pages for them or just put them all on one page. Information for the Null Ray, for example, was already sort-of mentioned on the page for the G1 [[Null ray]]. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I went ahead and made a page for all of the weapons. Definitely needs pics, though... --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 17:01, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I think they really need to have individual pages - the list page doesn't really fit in with how we do things. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Can we lock these WFC articles down? ==<br /> <br /> Or else I'm going to be spending the rest of my time on the wiki attempting to write WFC articles only to have to clean up after anon users (and relatively new members who don't know how to write in our style). Then I will give up because the articles are now too much work to get up to standards, video gamers who edited these articles have amazingly short attention spans and have left, and I'm the only one left who edits these things, as seen here last year: [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)]] *cries* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:29, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Which ones? just the main game articles? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:19, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Probably for the best. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:01, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Hey, I can still edit these things too! I need to...uh...actually finish the game first, though. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:38, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == G1? ==<br /> <br /> This game SHOULD NOT be connected to the prime series.WHICH IS WHY HASBRO PUT THIS AS CANNON TO THE G1 series.you can not tell me that the storline for the game is the same as the exodus comic book.-- [[user:Primetime]] july 6,2010 (EDT)<br /> :We might take you more seriously if you're not screaming at us and misspelling &quot;canon&quot;. Just a suggestion. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:39, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, Exodus isn't a comic book, and it's marketed as a tie-in novel to the game. So for all intents and purposes it is the novelization of the game, even if it's not exactly the same.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :They did? When? Where? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:49, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> 1:I'm not yelling,I just typed it that way.2:It's a tie-in comic?3:This wiki hardly listens to other users to the point where i should be yelling.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:57,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Exodus mentions the video game in its trade dress in several places. Also, as I said, it's not even a comic.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:16, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> hmmmmm, so which one is the g1 prequel because high moon sayed their storyline was a g1 prequel(read interviews).And they came out first and hasbro is just trying to jazz things up with things like Exodus and the prime cartoon(which is sayed to be a movie prequel but I don't know).--[[Primetime|Primetime]] 01:36,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Exodus was released on the same day as War for Cybertron. Because, again, it's a marketing tie-in.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:40, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> Thats great! now like I sayed before is it G1 liked the interviews sayed or not like some of you keep saying(I mean the game).--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:26 7, July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :It's the backstory for the new continuity that the Prime cartoon on the Hub will share. This was confirmed at BotCon. The new continuity borrows elements from several past ones, including a movie-style AllSpark, a series of space bridges leading to Cybertronian colonies a la Galaxy Force/Cybertron, the Elite Guard from Animated, the Wreckers, and a great many other nods to previous work. It is not exclusively G1 that is referenced.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:37, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::NO IT IS NOT G1. STOP INTERPRETING STUFF HIGH MOON STUDIOS SAID SO THE GAME WOULD SELL BETTER AS WORD OF GOD. <br /> ::I had to get that out of my system. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 02:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :If it's G1, why is there an AllSpark cube? Why is Bumblebee mute? And what's Gigantion doing there? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 09:46, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, Thy, that's all stuff from the Exodus novel, not WFC proper. They're tied together, but the original poster was only speaking about the game. (Annoyingly enough, Bumblebee loses his voice in the novel before the events of the game (loosely) take place, making Bumblebee's talking kind of, you know, another fun discrepancy.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:48, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> SOOO doesn't that mean the Exodus Novel and the game are not related due to the MAJOR differences in the storyline(because honestly the game seems REALLY like its a G1 prequel).And if you disagree explain why bumblebee can suddenly talk again and he is just meeting optimus and ratchet.</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* G1? */</p> <hr /> <div>== G1 Characters ==<br /> <br /> Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> :There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?<br /> :Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say &quot;assumption&quot; isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)<br /> :::The TFW2005 interview states it's &quot;not connected to any particular generation&quot; and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)<br /> ::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::::::How about &quot;WFC&quot;? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> :::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using &quot;WFC&quot; to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)<br /> :::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview &quot;Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe.&quot; The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying &quot;Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not,&quot; or vice-versa &quot;anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?&quot; A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. &quot;Its prehistory is very slightly different&quot; will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than &quot;influenced by it&quot; I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> <br /> To me, this seems every bit as G1 as War Within - Yeah it branches out into it's own story but it's hard to deny that this isn't just as G1 as DW or IDW comics given the use of characters and story telling style. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}} 08:55, 28 June 2010<br /> <br /> == The New trailer ==<br /> <br /> should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> preety much.<br /> <br /> == Logos ==<br /> <br /> I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Starscream? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the &quot;Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault&quot; picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010<br /> Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]<br /> ::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::: I'd say more &quot;Classics-ized&quot; versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Fresh trailer guys ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage<br /> <br /> Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...<br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Third link in &quot;external links&quot; at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Character Sources?==<br /> I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> : For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Release date==<br /> Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)<br /> sweetness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Motormaster ==<br /> <br /> Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version: <br /> http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg<br /> <br /> Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game. <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html<br /> : I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Interview and more gameplay and footage ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story<br /> <br /> Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.<br /> <br /> -Aaron Archer<br /> <br /> -It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.<br /> <br /> -Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?<br /> <br /> -And much more...<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> <br /> == No PSP option... ==<br /> <br /> Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I think its a &quot;revised&quot;<br /> backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Voice actor thing ==<br /> <br /> I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending &quot;false&quot; information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.<br /> :So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with &quot;AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego&quot; and &quot;Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]&quot;. Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not &quot;We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia.&quot; --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with &quot;idiots&quot; over &quot;cover-up&quot;. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> According to IMDB, Soundwave is played by [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0071818/ Jeff Bennet]. Is this legit enough for this wiki? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:22, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Nuh-uh. IMDB is like Wiki where any user can edit the content, be it actual or junk. I rather wait till an official announcement from either Activision or High Moon themselves. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:54, 3 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == New Characters' pages? ==<br /> VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?<br /> : We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)<br /> <br /> VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> <br /> :The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out &quot;Oops, they're part of G1&quot; and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> :I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jazz? ==<br /> <br /> The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave<br /> <br /> == Image Captions/Quotes ==<br /> <br /> So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?<br /> <br /> And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.<br /> <br /> ''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''<br /> <br /> Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved<br /> <br /> [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)<br /> :By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same &quot;gritty dark&quot; feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: &quot;Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little.&quot; Omega Supreme's picture: &quot;Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off.&quot; Megatron: &quot;I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered.&quot; Bumblebee: &quot;Little people first!&quot;<br /> ::For Starscream joining the Decepticons, &quot;What would you have your Arbiter do?&quot; [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 00:36, 06 June 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == New characters ==<br /> <br /> Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the &quot;embargo&quot; pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream_%28WFC%29|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[Special:Contributions/98.204.17.1|98.204.17.1]] 17:45, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Short Answer: No. Long Answer: Well, probably not, they're almost crtainly actual characters in the story version of the game from what we've seen, but no one will know 100% for sure until the game is out and we play through and see. But still, likely, no. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:00, 26 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==<br /> <br /> [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&amp;postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::&quot;Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS...&quot; So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Picked my copy up and it is rather a bit more close to Exodus from the reviews elsewhere. While I don't have a copy of Exodus on hand yet, the charges against Megatron that includes bombing Six Lasers Over Cybertron and kidnapping Sentinel Prime is mentioned. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:20, 24 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Feel free to edit the article I set up at my [[User:Lonegamer78/Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|sandbox]] until we can figure out where to place the comic's article. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == For now... ==<br /> <br /> ...I'm deciding WfC is classified as a Primax-cluster universe. Now that the toys are sort of out, we really need to stick them ''somewhere''. And there's been nothing indicated that its universe isn't terribly G1y. This could change in the future as we come to understand its universe better, but we can move it then. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 2 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm beginning to wonder if the &quot;G1 continuity family&quot; is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't &quot;terribly G1y&quot; in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Division by Game? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> At some point soon are we going to need to give this page a major overhaul? From the sounds of it the Wii and DS versions are going to have signifigant enough character and play differnces that talking about it all as &quot;one single game&quot; would likely become counterproductive. Don't have the time right now to check but isn't that how we've handled multiplatform games in the past? A 360/PS3 section, a Wii section and a DS section? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:15, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I know there are two seperate articles for the PS1 and N64 versions of the Beast Wars Transmetal fighting games. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:54, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::The games actually have different names, as well. The Wii version is called Transformers: Cybertron Adventures. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 23:55, 4 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Usually there's seperate pages for different versions of the games, there'll probably be one for this game too. Might be better to wait until they're out though. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:25, 11 June 2010 (GMT)<br /> <br /> == Matt Tieger Says... ==<br /> I am, right now, listening to a Kotaku podcast where they are interviewing Matt Tieger, and he says War for Cybertron is &quot;like a prequel to G1.&quot; http://ca.kotaku.com/5559654/its-a-prime-time-to-talk-transformers<br /> So, is this confirmation of being G1, or do we still wait until the game or official fiction is released? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:01, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I think the keywords is that he used &quot;like a&quot; on describing WfC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:07, 9 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Another note from the podcast: Matt Tieger says that Corey Burton is NOT the voice of Shockwave, but rather they got a sound-alike. Should this be worth mentioning? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Matt Tieger has also said that WFC is a direct prequel to the G1 cartoon, which is impossible on several levels given what we know. I think a lot of what he says is to get people to buy the game (SHOCK SHOCK I KNOW) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DS Version ==<br /> <br /> Source for all of these &quot;DS-only&quot; guys? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:34, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : People who've played the game. I myself have seen Kup and Dirge fairly early on in the Toys R Us demo version. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:38, 11 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: After going through the game, Kup's actually not playable, never featured beyond his portrait appearing in the tutorial. Hot Rod, on the other hand, is in, though he's named Hot Shot. On the decepticon side, there's also Ramjet, Motormaster and Dragstrip--[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 05:46, 23 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Box Art==<br /> <br /> I have a picture of the Box Art, should I upload it, and if there's a version already here, shouldn't we use it as the Main Picture? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 13:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==<br /> <br /> == I know some missons! ==<br /> <br /> I resantly looked at campaign and misson desighn and it showed the names of some missons lets add that.<br /> :Where did you look at them? Were they officially released by Hasbro/the programming company? If not, then they are not eligible for inclusion on this wiki. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:54, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> yes,<br /> confirmed misson names are <br /> defend iacon,<br /> death of hope,<br /> the final guardian,<br /> fuel of war,<br /> iacon destroyed,<br /> false propaganda,<br /> decagon plaza<br /> these are a few confirmed missons<br /> :Where were they released? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:57, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Confirmed by high moon.<br /> :Where? When? Source, please? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> www.transformersgame.com go to media videos then behind the sceans campagn and misson desighn then when hes choosing a level he scrolls throgh these levels.<br /> <br /> ==James Remar==<br /> So, was this actually confirmed? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:57, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : I also would like to know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I as well, but I like Remar so I filled out his article anyway. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:21, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Given the fact you jumped all over me for that Ausgamers thing, I would have thought this article's creation would have caused some discussion. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:52, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Yeah well I figured with the article locked from anons... the WfC page would've been spared from unsourced statements. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:56, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Someone also added the WfC Starscream thing back onto [[Doug Parker]]'s article. Has THAT been confirmed? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 21:39, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::You know... seeing as how a few folks on the Allspark have snagged copies early, why not just beg them in the thread or PM or something if they can upload screenies/scans (whichever is applicable) of the credits for us? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:40, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::Never mind, now that I'm caught up over there, I see [[User:abates|abates]] already did that. XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:44, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-war-cybertron-discussion/309191-transformers-war-cybertron-cast-spoiler.html Spotted this over on TFW2005], FWIW. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Megatron's voiced by [[Fred Tatasciore]], apparently. (BRB, making new actor pages. :P) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 22:22, 17 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::I will totally fist-pump if he is, because I freakin' called that in ''January''. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 03:49, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Profiles? ==<br /> <br /> Should we bother linking to all of the available official website character profiles, or are we just going to remove the existing links once the game comes out? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:07, 18 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : They count as G1 canon so we should keep them linked to their G1 counterparts.--[[User:Primetime]] 12:06, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: That's not what Jeysie is talking about. She's talking about the links to the official WFC website. &quot;official website character profiles.&quot; Me, uh, I don't really have an opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: Yeah, Walky got it in one.<br /> ::: I guess my confusion was... I wasn't sure if the links were intended as information (in which case, might as well keep 'em), or just as sources for the character being in the game (in which case, once we get an official credits list from the game itself, said sources aren't really needed).<br /> ::: Not that I'm fussed either way... I just was itching to be consistent, and wasn't sure if that involved linking or deleting. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:14, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: For me, more info is almost always better. Link!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Name?==<br /> <br /> Is there a name for the guy I'm referring to as &quot;Giant Autobot tank thing that you fight before Zeta Prime&quot;? He has lines and stuff, but he didn't really look like anybody I recognized. (I refuse to call him by the name &quot;that guy who kicked my ass about a dozen times until I got lucky.&quot;) {{unsigned|Skyshock Thunderblast}} 09:22, 25 June 2010<br /> :I'm pretty sure he's just a generic. You fight a few more during the Decepticon campaign, and some more during the Autobot campaign. I know they call the Decepticon ones &quot;Destroyers,&quot; but I'm not sure what the Autobot ones are called. The loading-screen hints refer to them as, simply, Tanks. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I had assumed &quot;Destroyer&quot; was for both Autobots and Decepticons with that body-type. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:06, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I assumed that as well, but I was just going with what I knew for certain. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:27, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::: I would SWEAR I heard one of the other Autobots refer to him by name. Well, Matt Tieger from Full Moon is at BC this year. Ask him? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:56, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::: Tanks for Autobots, Destroyers for Decepticons, according to the subtitles.<br /> == DS Profile Pictures ==<br /> <br /> Any use in screenshots for the characters as they appear in the DS Game? Will also be able to get console versions soon too.<br /> --[[User:Scatterlung|Scatterlung]] 14:22, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Who's the blue Autobot Tank? ==<br /> In the concept art (autobot recruits section, i believe) and the credits, there is a blue Autobot tank that clearly is not a blue version of Warpath, and looks like a completely different design. Is this a reference to a real Transformers character? ''(i don't know everything there is to know about transformers, so to those who do, please have mercy...)'' [[Special:Contributions/24.145.176.54|24.145.176.54]] 14:08, 26 June 2010 (EDT)unregistered contributor (has accounts on other wikis, but doesn't work on this one)<br /> :I'd say Twin Twist; while it's obviously not a jumpstarter, he's the closest thing to a blue and white Autobot tank I could find. The real mystery is why the Constructicon truck and this guy aren't in the game, since those faction/classes only have one mesh right now.<br /> ::I strongly doubt it's Twin Twist. Can you give us any more details about the character? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:59, 26 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I think it's just the model for the generic Autobot tank soldiers you fight in the game. It may not actually be that color of blue (some of the character models aren't the final colors). --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::It certainly isn't, because there aren't any. Is there any real reason it can't be Twin Twist? I can post a pic, but he doesn't look much like anyone in particular (much as the purple/green constructicon doesn't either). Tanks (or heavy enough to be tanks) are rare enough on the Autobot side to narrow it down pretty quickly: the only guys that jump out at me are Twin Twist or animated Sentinel Prime. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pnakotus/tf/IMG_0550.jpg. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.127.90|118.208.127.90]]<br /> :I have the 360 game the guy is in the credits sinama. I think he may be a sneek peak at ultar magnus for this game but thats just my gess. {{unsigned|74.103.61.137}} 06:12, 28 June 2010<br /> :The PC version, having all the bot names apparent on characters' model files, names him as Scattershot.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:50, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Aha, so I was right. Because his head, colors, and altmode are 100% Cybertron Defense [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:54, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Maybe its time for a cleanup ==<br /> <br /> The game is out, the preview stuff is now irrelevant, and solid information regarding plot, characters, continuity etc is available. Devoting 33% of the article to a promotional webgame that hasn't told us anything for six months is ... strange.<br /> :I've worked a bit on the article today. Did a synopsis for the 360 version, but I don't own the Wii or DS ones. Someone else will have to help with those. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:27, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I'd suggest moving the Gallery to the end, using a more TFwiki standard arrangement of images/references/voice actors/etc, removing the useless 'Transmission Recovery' section, and expanding the references section (Primus, conversion cog, etc). [[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::Perhaps the 'Transmission Recovery' section could be split into a new article? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:24, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Sure, but the game isn't playable anymore and the video you 'recover' is just one of the trailers that are freely available.[[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]<br /> :::::Okay, the sections are shuffled to be more logical and in line with other articles. What happened to the plot synopsis? [[User:Pnakotus|Pnakotus]] 00:54, 28 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Advice on writing up the weapons.==<br /> I think the game's variety of weapons deserves a write-up, but I'm not sure if I should make individual pages for them or just put them all on one page. Information for the Null Ray, for example, was already sort-of mentioned on the page for the G1 [[Null ray]]. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I went ahead and made a page for all of the weapons. Definitely needs pics, though... --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 17:01, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I think they really need to have individual pages - the list page doesn't really fit in with how we do things. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Can we lock these WFC articles down? ==<br /> <br /> Or else I'm going to be spending the rest of my time on the wiki attempting to write WFC articles only to have to clean up after anon users (and relatively new members who don't know how to write in our style). Then I will give up because the articles are now too much work to get up to standards, video gamers who edited these articles have amazingly short attention spans and have left, and I'm the only one left who edits these things, as seen here last year: [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)]] *cries* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:29, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Which ones? just the main game articles? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:19, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Probably for the best. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:01, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> Hey, I can still edit these things too! I need to...uh...actually finish the game first, though. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:38, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == G1? ==<br /> <br /> This game SHOULD NOT be connected to the prime series.WHICH IS WHY HASBRO PUT THIS AS CANNON TO THE G1 series.you can not tell me that the storline for the game is the same as the exodus comic book.-- [[user:Primetime]] july 6,2010 (EDT)<br /> :We might take you more seriously if you're not screaming at us and misspelling &quot;canon&quot;. Just a suggestion. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:39, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, Exodus isn't a comic book, and it's marketed as a tie-in novel to the game. So for all intents and purposes it is the novelization of the game, even if it's not exactly the same.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :They did? When? Where? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:49, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> 1:I'm not yelling,I just typed it that way.2:It's a tie-in comic?3:This wiki hardly listens to other users to the point where i should be yelling.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:57,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Exodus mentions the video game in its trade dress in several places. Also, as I said, it's not even a comic.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:16, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> hmmmmm, so which one is the g1 prequel because high moon sayed their storyline was a g1 prequel(read interviews).And they came out first and hasbro is just trying to jazz things up with things like Exodus and the prime cartoon(which is sayed to be a movie prequel but I don't know).--[[Primetime|Primetime]] 01:36,7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Exodus was released on the same day as War for Cybertron. Because, again, it's a marketing tie-in.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:40, 7 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> Thats great! now like I sayed before is it G1 liked the interviews sayed or not like some of you keep saying(I mean the game).--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:26 7, July 2010 (EDT)</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* G1 */</p> <hr /> <div>This disambig tag fills me with glee. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 13:12, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Though why people find this funny confuses me. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:22, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I just imagine [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] saying it, it. Or would that be Optimus Prime (Prime), (Prime)? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:34, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I guess the archivist thing is from Exodus? 'cause in the WfC game he instead mentions having been a dock worker.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 14:44, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::When did he mention that? I honestly don't remember him saying that, but my memory is not exactly something to go on. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:06, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::It's during the in-game banter, I'd say during the second autobot chapter but could be the third. If memory serves, a teammate voices his approval of Optimus' taking matters in his own hands and acting like a leader and Optimus retorts as soon as the war's over he'll go back to working at the docks. [[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 03:47, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : Yay, more inconsistencies! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:46, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::And I thought nothing could be more inconsistent with established continuity than AHM. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 15:49, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::And is it 100 percent certain the Optimus in WFC and the one in Prime will be the same guy, cause I've been tracking the news, and beyond a lot of speculation and vague suggestion, nothing seems confirmed [[Special:Contributions/148.197.8.240|148.197.8.240]] 00.01 30 Jube 2010<br /> ::::Everyone at Hasbro sure seems to think so. ''Exodus'', which is written apparently from the ''Prime'' show backstory, includes the events of WFC loosely within its second half. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:11, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Even if they're not in the exact same universe, they're certainly in the same continuity family, so they'd get the same page. Just as Sunbow Prime and IDW Prime are both on the G1 page.[[User:Kaje|Kaje]] 19:31, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::And there are others. Well, I haven't read Exodus but based on the summary on this wiki it's more like two different stories that reach the same end point. For one, in WfC Optimus doesn't become a Prime at the beginning of the war, but after Zeta's death, mere days before the evacuation. And the Matrix is introduced in a completely different way, possibly doesnt even ''exist'' until the end of chapter 8. [[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:29, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Exodus tries to have it both ways. Once you get to the end of the book and Sentinel dies, Optimus gets the Matrix then, and Alpha Trion notes that Prime wasn't truly a Prime until this moment, regardless of what the council said. So he was dubbed a Prime by the council at the beginning, but it wasn't really true until just before they left Earth. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:34, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Yeah, I guess it's an honorable fix, yet still doesn't mesh, mind you. In the game it's mentioned Optimus first refused to be a Prime, which is why he doesn't have the title (whether or not this landed Zeta the job is unclear since the way they word it at times I may almost think they could have several Primes at once) and the Matrix is unrelated to the Council and the Prime title they bestow.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:42, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Why don't we just change the opening to &quot;The young bot who would become Optimus Prime&quot; rather than have it at Optimus or Orion Pax, and wait until Prime premiers and see if it ever goes with one or the other?<br /> <br /> In the game, it's Optimus, not Orion Pax. Does the book override the game, or vice versa?<br /> -ThiAthEhn<br /> : The events of the game happen within the last half of the novel, after Optimus has stopped being Orion Pax. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:52, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::The tricky bit is still that the game starts before he decides to become Optimus Prime, ie in the novel he goes from Orion Pax to Optimus Prime, while in the game he goes from Optimus to Optimus Prime.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 12:52, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Yeah, the article's current bio doesn't take into account the WFC game at all. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:59, 1 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Hmm. The game does have a scene where Megatron and Optimus talk about something that happened between them before the game started. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:19, 2 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == So, do we have to move WFC stuff I've written to new character articles? ==<br /> <br /> Argh. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:48, 1 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Just like I predicted, yes. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 14:00, 1 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I'm too tired to clean this giant mess right now. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:01, 1 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Profile Should Be Rewritten ==<br /> <br /> <br /> The Character profile here right now is all Exodus stuff. But almost all of it is stuff that is totally different in WfC. The Character profiles are supposed to be generic and fit all version of the character. I think this one needs to be moved to the Exodus sub-section and a new more general Prime (Prime) (that's fun) profile written, Yes?--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 08:57, 3 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I agree, it's a bit too specific about the Exodus stuff considering what a big deal WFC is as a form of Prime media. I believe the reason it totally lacks WFC stuff is because Walky wrote it and apparently hasn't played WFC yet. Well, I presume on the last, anyway. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:55, 3 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I guess nobody cares then. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:57, 4 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == G1==<br /> <br /> So Exodus is based off the prime cartoon but war for cybertron is a prequel to g1.And if you disagree hasbro themselves sayed that. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}}<br /> :Yes, it is, no it isn't, no they haven't, sign your posts, Do The Research. Thank you for your time. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 15:41, 5 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I wouldn't jump to conclusions right now. Videogames based on franchises tend to get retconned, like what happened to the Ultimate Spider-Man video game. Also, the show has been described as a mix of Animated and Live-Action films, which the game doesn't really reflect. If we are going to reclassify characters we should use something like &quot;Optimus Prime (WFC)&quot; until everything gets really confirmed.[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 22:19, 5 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> THANK YOU someone gets it. [[unregistered]] 11:35, 6 July 2010 (EDT)</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* G1 */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>== Synopsis ==<br /> <br /> There's been some more [http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/display.pperl/9780345519856.html info] posted up about the novel. How much of it should go in here (quoted or referenced)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 13:14, 25 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> : That's the exact same information that's on the Amazon link. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:17, 25 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Indeed - a link which was only updated to include said synopsis today. My question still stands - how should the new information regarding the novel's plot be added to the synopsis here (as a direct quote, or a re-write)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 13:21, 25 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> This has probably been discussed elsewhere, but--why are we calling this &quot;Exodus&quot; and not &quot;Transformers: Exodus&quot;? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 22:07, 24 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :The &quot;Transformers:&quot; part is routinely left of of article titles just to shorten them. It is usually used on the page itself. I'll fix that. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:17, 24 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Spoilers? ==<br /> <br /> This is out in stores now, and I'm reading it. Looks like there's gonna be a LOT to add. So are we doing anytype of spoiler wait on it or should we just start adding things here and on other pages?<br /> :Spoiler warnings, of course. Since half the fandom will be at BotCon this week, there should some waiting to give people a chance to read it.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 14:25, 22 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == G1 ==<br /> <br /> This comic is COMPLETELY different than than the war for cybertron storyline which is a direct prequel to G1.</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: </p> <hr /> <div>This disambig tag fills me with glee. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 13:12, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Though why people find this funny confuses me. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:22, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I just imagine [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] saying it, it. Or would that be Optimus Prime (Prime), (Prime)? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:34, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I guess the archivist thing is from Exodus? 'cause in the WfC game he instead mentions having been a dock worker.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 14:44, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::When did he mention that? I honestly don't remember him saying that, but my memory is not exactly something to go on. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:06, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::It's during the in-game banter, I'd say during the second autobot chapter but could be the third. If memory serves, a teammate voices his approval of Optimus' taking matters in his own hands and acting like a leader and Optimus retorts as soon as the war's over he'll go back to working at the docks. [[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 03:47, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : Yay, more inconsistencies! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:46, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::And I thought nothing could be more inconsistent with established continuity than AHM. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 15:49, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::And is it 100 percent certain the Optimus in WFC and the one in Prime will be the same guy, cause I've been tracking the news, and beyond a lot of speculation and vague suggestion, nothing seems confirmed [[Special:Contributions/148.197.8.240|148.197.8.240]] 00.01 30 Jube 2010<br /> ::::Everyone at Hasbro sure seems to think so. ''Exodus'', which is written apparently from the ''Prime'' show backstory, includes the events of WFC loosely within its second half. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:11, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Even if they're not in the exact same universe, they're certainly in the same continuity family, so they'd get the same page. Just as Sunbow Prime and IDW Prime are both on the G1 page.[[User:Kaje|Kaje]] 19:31, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::And there are others. Well, I haven't read Exodus but based on the summary on this wiki it's more like two different stories that reach the same end point. For one, in WfC Optimus doesn't become a Prime at the beginning of the war, but after Zeta's death, mere days before the evacuation. And the Matrix is introduced in a completely different way, possibly doesnt even ''exist'' until the end of chapter 8. [[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:29, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Exodus tries to have it both ways. Once you get to the end of the book and Sentinel dies, Optimus gets the Matrix then, and Alpha Trion notes that Prime wasn't truly a Prime until this moment, regardless of what the council said. So he was dubbed a Prime by the council at the beginning, but it wasn't really true until just before they left Earth. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:34, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Yeah, I guess it's an honorable fix, yet still doesn't mesh, mind you. In the game it's mentioned Optimus first refused to be a Prime, which is why he doesn't have the title (whether or not this landed Zeta the job is unclear since the way they word it at times I may almost think they could have several Primes at once) and the Matrix is unrelated to the Council and the Prime title they bestow.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:42, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> In the game, it's Optimus, not Orion Pax. Does the book override the game, or vice versa?<br /> -ThiAthEhn<br /> : The events of the game happen within the last half of the novel, after Optimus has stopped being Orion Pax. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:52, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::The tricky bit is still that the game starts before he decides to become Optimus Prime, ie in the novel he goes from Orion Pax to Optimus Prime, while in the game he goes from Optimus to Optimus Prime.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 12:52, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Yeah, the article's current bio doesn't take into account the WFC game at all. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:59, 1 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Hmm. The game does have a scene where Megatron and Optimus talk about something that happened between them before the game started. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:19, 2 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == So, do we have to move WFC stuff I've written to new character articles? ==<br /> <br /> Argh. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:48, 1 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Just like I predicted, yes. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 14:00, 1 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I'm too tired to clean this giant mess right now. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:01, 1 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Profile Should Be Rewritten ==<br /> <br /> <br /> The Character profile here right now is all Exodus stuff. But almost all of it is stuff that is totally different in WfC. The Character profiles are supposed to be generic and fit all version of the character. I think this one needs to be moved to the Exodus sub-section and a new more general Prime (Prime) (that's fun) profile written, Yes?--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 08:57, 3 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I agree, it's a bit too specific about the Exodus stuff considering what a big deal WFC is as a form of Prime media. I believe the reason it totally lacks WFC stuff is because Walky wrote it and apparently hasn't played WFC yet. Well, I presume on the last, anyway. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:55, 3 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I guess nobody cares then. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:57, 4 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == G1==<br /> <br /> So Exodus is based off the prime cartoon but war for cybertron is a prequel to g1.And if you disagree hasbro themselves sayed that.</div>

98.204.17.1 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Optimus_Prime_(WFC)&diff=474049 2010-07-05T18:54:39Z

<p>98.204.17.1: /* G! */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>This disambig tag fills me with glee. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 13:12, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Though why people find this funny confuses me. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:22, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I just imagine [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] saying it, it. Or would that be Optimus Prime (Prime), (Prime)? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:34, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I guess the archivist thing is from Exodus? 'cause in the WfC game he instead mentions having been a dock worker.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 14:44, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::When did he mention that? I honestly don't remember him saying that, but my memory is not exactly something to go on. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:06, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::It's during the in-game banter, I'd say during the second autobot chapter but could be the third. If memory serves, a teammate voices his approval of Optimus' taking matters in his own hands and acting like a leader and Optimus retorts as soon as the war's over he'll go back to working at the docks. [[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 03:47, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> : Yay, more inconsistencies! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:46, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::And I thought nothing could be more inconsistent with established continuity than AHM. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 15:49, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::And is it 100 percent certain the Optimus in WFC and the one in Prime will be the same guy, cause I've been tracking the news, and beyond a lot of speculation and vague suggestion, nothing seems confirmed [[Special:Contributions/148.197.8.240|148.197.8.240]] 00.01 30 Jube 2010<br /> ::::Everyone at Hasbro sure seems to think so. ''Exodus'', which is written apparently from the ''Prime'' show backstory, includes the events of WFC loosely within its second half. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:11, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Even if they're not in the exact same universe, they're certainly in the same continuity family, so they'd get the same page. Just as Sunbow Prime and IDW Prime are both on the G1 page.[[User:Kaje|Kaje]] 19:31, 29 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::And there are others. Well, I haven't read Exodus but based on the summary on this wiki it's more like two different stories that reach the same end point. For one, in WfC Optimus doesn't become a Prime at the beginning of the war, but after Zeta's death, mere days before the evacuation. And the Matrix is introduced in a completely different way, possibly doesnt even ''exist'' until the end of chapter 8. [[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:29, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Exodus tries to have it both ways. Once you get to the end of the book and Sentinel dies, Optimus gets the Matrix then, and Alpha Trion notes that Prime wasn't truly a Prime until this moment, regardless of what the council said. So he was dubbed a Prime by the council at the beginning, but it wasn't really true until just before they left Earth. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:34, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Yeah, I guess it's an honorable fix, yet still doesn't mesh, mind you. In the game it's mentioned Optimus first refused to be a Prime, which is why he doesn't have the title (whether or not this landed Zeta the job is unclear since the way they word it at times I may almost think they could have several Primes at once) and the Matrix is unrelated to the Council and the Prime title they bestow.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:42, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> In the game, it's Optimus, not Orion Pax. Does the book override the game, or vice versa?<br /> -ThiAthEhn<br /> : The events of the game happen within the last half of the novel, after Optimus has stopped being Orion Pax. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:52, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::The tricky bit is still that the game starts before he decides to become Optimus Prime, ie in the novel he goes from Orion Pax to Optimus Prime, while in the game he goes from Optimus to Optimus Prime.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 12:52, 30 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Yeah, the article's current bio doesn't take into account the WFC game at all. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:59, 1 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Hmm. The game does have a scene where Megatron and Optimus talk about something that happened between them before the game started. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:19, 2 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == So, do we have to move WFC stuff I've written to new character articles? ==<br /> <br /> Argh. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:48, 1 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Just like I predicted, yes. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 14:00, 1 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I'm too tired to clean this giant mess right now. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:01, 1 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Profile Should Be Rewritten ==<br /> <br /> <br /> The Character profile here right now is all Exodus stuff. But almost all of it is stuff that is totally different in WfC. The Character profiles are supposed to be generic and fit all version of the character. I think this one needs to be moved to the Exodus sub-section and a new more general Prime (Prime) (that's fun) profile written, Yes?--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 08:57, 3 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I agree, it's a bit too specific about the Exodus stuff considering what a big deal WFC is as a form of Prime media. I believe the reason it totally lacks WFC stuff is because Walky wrote it and apparently hasn't played WFC yet. Well, I presume on the last, anyway. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:55, 3 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I guess nobody cares then. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:57, 4 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == G! ==<br /> <br /> So Exodus is based off the prime cartoon but war for cybertron is a prequel to g1.And if you disagree hasbro themselves sayed that.</div>

98.204.17.1 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_Dark_of_the_Moon_(film)&diff=464623 2010-06-13T15:27:47Z

<p>98.204.17.1: /* DINOBOTS? */</p> <hr /> <div>== Release date ==<br /> <br /> This page claims a release date of 1 July 2011, yet one of the sources given ([http://tformers.com/transformers-/11777/news.html]) gives a release date of 4 July 2012. Which is correct? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:25, 6 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> : That Tformers source is from months ago, before the release date was moved up. --[[Special:Contributions/67.149.197.71|67.149.197.71]] 12:59, 6 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> ::Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/199.90.28.195|199.90.28.195]] 15:21, 6 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Ik hoop dat Transformers 3 is heel beter dan RotF. Of anders... [[Special:Contributions/71.254.158.28|71.254.158.28]] 22:46, 13 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Image ==<br /> <br /> Wikipedia has a picture of a Transformers 3 titlecard. Should it be put here too? And Megan Fox should be added to the cast list.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 22:48, 3 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :[https://michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/a2bd79bb4c222b807e27707aaf1497e6-570.html michaelbay.com] does confirm Megan Fox, so she could be included with the reference, but I don't know where that image came from. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:56, 3 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::Said titlecard would be from Hasbro's Investor Day presentation back on November 5. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:44, 3 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Well, then somebody put those things here already --[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 20:01, 7 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I'm waiting...--[[Special:Contributions/142.32.208.231|142.32.208.231]] 15:06, 14 January 2010 (EST)<br /> just take off the picture its inapropriote for the kid users {{unsigned|208.102.3.1|15:53, 12 June 2010 (EDT)}}<br /> :The movies themselves are pretty kid-inappropriate. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 16:00, 12 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::a silhouette of a woman is not appropriate for kid users? They'd see worse on billboards. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:21, 12 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I'm not too crazy about the image, but I don't think it's too terribly bad [it's nothing compared to some of the Kiss Player stuff or the drawing of Wheelie lifting Teletraan-15's skirt; that stuff troubles me (yes, I know that's the nature of the Kiss Player beast)]. Besides, I have a feeling that the James Bond-ish pic will be removed as soon as we get some pics of the movie posters (might still see it on the Rosie article, though). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:52, 12 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == James Avery as Silverbot? ==<br /> [http://unscripted.ca/episodes/show/136] --[[User:Eagc7]]<br /> <br /> == New Actor Info ==<br /> <br /> ...is that seriously for real and not an early April Fool's prank on someone's part? Because... WTF? Who ever heard of Frances McDormand and John Malkovich doing anything in a Transformers movie? XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 10:54, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Hey now. Mrs. McDormand was in Aeon Flux, so it's not like she's above Hollywood fluff. And John Malkovich is in Jonah Hex and did things like Johnny English in the past. The Transformers film franchise attracted Hugo Weaving, Jon Voight and Robert Foxworth before them, so I don't see why other notable actors being cast would be such a shock. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:14, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Weaving and Foxworth, at least, are both actors who've done mainstream scifi franchise stuff before, so I wasn't surprised by them at all, actually. But I always thought of McDormand and Malkovich as being more artsy movie types. (Maybe I'm just still skeptical that TF3's script is going to be less horrible than TF2's.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:30, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Yes, well, as I pointed out, it's not ''all'' they do. McDormand was in Aeon Flux. Malkovich is in a comic book film and was in a Rowan Atkinson comedy once, just to name a few. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:37, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::&lt;nowiki&gt;*&lt;/nowiki&gt;Michael Bay signs biiiiiiiig paycheck* That's why :p --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:31, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::John Malkovich should totally play Dr. Arkeville. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:41, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Possible Titles? ==<br /> <br /> Has anyone else heard these rumours about the possible titles: Rise of The Primes/Unicron/Galvatron. It is unlikely to be true, but should it be put in the notes, maybe? [[User:Titanus Prime|Titanus Prime]] 14:27, 30 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :We do not talk about crackpot rumours on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:32, 30 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::As soon as we get an official title, perhaps some of the rumored titles could be noted. Some, not all of them (maybe one or two likely titles and one off-the-wall one). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:54, 30 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Twins, Ironhide and Ratchet on TF3 ==<br /> <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-3-on-set-pictures---a-new-look-for-ratchet-169662/<br /> <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/first-behind-the-scenes-video-from-transformers-3-169679/ --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 0:13, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :These are not official sources. A Humvee does not mean Ratchet WILL get a new paintjob, and a flying car does not indicate the Twins being in the film. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:43, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Well one guy sayed that skids Would Apepar and throw a car (samrt car) it he sayed that before the video apepared and the video Looks like what he syaed but like you sayed they not offical source, still --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 01:15, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Bay Confirms tiwns are nto in tf3, but still the chevy spark/beat were spotted on set http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-spark-transformers-3.html--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]<br /> ::::That's still not an official source. If you can find a link where Bay or someone involved with the production says they're in, then that would do. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:35, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/new-transformers-3-on-set-pictures---including-a-clear-view-of-ratchets-new-look-169900/ Isn't this enough to prove that Ratchet and Ironhide will return?--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 04:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::Not really. For example, the &quot;Ratchet&quot; could just be a fire department truck assigned as part of a NEST unit. Or it could have been painted up after the second movie in expectation of him being used in the third, but before a decision was made not to use him. The bottom line is that those aren't officially released photos. This isn't an &quot;OMG look what I know that you don't site&quot; trying to beat everyone to the punch by making half-baked predictions, it is an archive of what has been officially shown. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:10, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::I don't think so. That ambulance is too similar. Hummer H2 and Autobot symbol on it. Autobot symbols are only used in Autobot alternate mode vehicles. NEST vehicles have no symbols or they have NEST logo. And what about Ironhide? Images are excatly enough to confirmation. These should be enough. There are no more proofs needed.--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 22:46, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::Doesn't matter. Those aren't OFFICIAL photos. They weren't released by Hasbro, Bay or anyone who has any control over things. They are, in effect, STOLEN intellectual property and DO NOT belong here. Whether your contentions turn out to be true or not is irrelevant. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:39, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Not only that, Michael Bay and others are on the record that they're intentionally spreading false info. Remember how there were sightings of Barricade around the time RotF was filming? - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:06, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::The pics have been confirmed and both ratchet and Ironhide have official pics with them being next to optimus prime and bumblebee and Ratchet still has his ''new'' colors. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 16:27 8 June 2010 (EDT) <br /> :::::::::Nope, we still don't count 'em unless Michael, Don, Nelson, or anyone directly affiliated/working on TF3 comes up and says so. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 16:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::Why is this such a hard concept. Unless any new photo/news is released by Hasbro itself or one of the authorities in charge of the film it does not go on the wiki. &lt;Cheetor&gt; PERIOD. &lt;Cheetor).--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 17:13, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Meh noone blevies they are i nmovie, WELL Lets wiat til lfilmngi begisn and you guys will see these pcis are REAL!!! {{unsigned|Eagc7|20:11, 10 June 2010 (EDT)}}<br /> :::It's not a case of not believing they're in the movie. I would say most people believe it. It's a case of these pictures being leaked information without official confirmation. And we don't include that sort of info on the wiki. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:14, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Right. This info might be &quot;obvious&quot;, but sometimes leaked info is less obvious and open to interpretation. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and no leaked info ever is pretty clear. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 21:00, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Megan Fox ==<br /> She was reportediy axed due to a want not to have Sam tied down with a love intrest.<br /> http://movies.yahoo.com/news/usmovies.accesshollywood.com/megan-fox-dropped-from-transformers-3<br /> :Reuters.com states it's due to Bay and company wishing to go a different direction. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64J04920100520 Bottom line, Fox is gone. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 21:32, 19 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::That news about Fox(cited) should probably be front and center in her own article, rather than down the bottom in trivia. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:11, 20 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Shockwave Has villian and FInal Film in the franchise ==<br /> <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/308221-transformers-3-movie-details-possible-spoilers-2.html<br /> :The above link is to the second page of a forum thread about an article ABOUT the article in question. Here's the actual article: http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2010-06-11-Transformers11_ST_N.htm?csp=usat.me -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:21, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::For those who don't feel like reading through it: no more goofball humor; twins are basically gone; new love interest for Sam; Shockwave is new villain; involves USA/USSR space race; characters who die stay dead this time. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:30, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DINOBOTS? ==<br /> <br /> In a interview with Josh Duhamel was asked if the dinobots are going to be in TF3,and he sayed that ''I can't answer that question'' which pretty much confirms that the Dinobots are going to be in it like they did with devastator in ROTF.so can we add them? {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 02:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :His deflection of the question doesn't &quot;pretty much&quot; confirm anything. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:39, 13 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> How so, he is playing coy and by now its common sense that when they do that it means its coming.Mis-information campaign.--[[unregistered user]] 11:27, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div>

98.204.17.1 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_Dark_of_the_Moon_(film)&diff=464622 2010-06-13T15:27:14Z

<p>98.204.17.1: /* DINOBOTS? */</p> <hr /> <div>== Release date ==<br /> <br /> This page claims a release date of 1 July 2011, yet one of the sources given ([http://tformers.com/transformers-/11777/news.html]) gives a release date of 4 July 2012. Which is correct? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:25, 6 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> : That Tformers source is from months ago, before the release date was moved up. --[[Special:Contributions/67.149.197.71|67.149.197.71]] 12:59, 6 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> ::Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/199.90.28.195|199.90.28.195]] 15:21, 6 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Ik hoop dat Transformers 3 is heel beter dan RotF. Of anders... [[Special:Contributions/71.254.158.28|71.254.158.28]] 22:46, 13 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Image ==<br /> <br /> Wikipedia has a picture of a Transformers 3 titlecard. Should it be put here too? And Megan Fox should be added to the cast list.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 22:48, 3 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :[https://michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/a2bd79bb4c222b807e27707aaf1497e6-570.html michaelbay.com] does confirm Megan Fox, so she could be included with the reference, but I don't know where that image came from. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:56, 3 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::Said titlecard would be from Hasbro's Investor Day presentation back on November 5. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:44, 3 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Well, then somebody put those things here already --[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 20:01, 7 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I'm waiting...--[[Special:Contributions/142.32.208.231|142.32.208.231]] 15:06, 14 January 2010 (EST)<br /> just take off the picture its inapropriote for the kid users {{unsigned|208.102.3.1|15:53, 12 June 2010 (EDT)}}<br /> :The movies themselves are pretty kid-inappropriate. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 16:00, 12 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::a silhouette of a woman is not appropriate for kid users? They'd see worse on billboards. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:21, 12 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I'm not too crazy about the image, but I don't think it's too terribly bad [it's nothing compared to some of the Kiss Player stuff or the drawing of Wheelie lifting Teletraan-15's skirt; that stuff troubles me (yes, I know that's the nature of the Kiss Player beast)]. Besides, I have a feeling that the James Bond-ish pic will be removed as soon as we get some pics of the movie posters (might still see it on the Rosie article, though). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:52, 12 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == James Avery as Silverbot? ==<br /> [http://unscripted.ca/episodes/show/136] --[[User:Eagc7]]<br /> <br /> == New Actor Info ==<br /> <br /> ...is that seriously for real and not an early April Fool's prank on someone's part? Because... WTF? Who ever heard of Frances McDormand and John Malkovich doing anything in a Transformers movie? XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 10:54, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Hey now. Mrs. McDormand was in Aeon Flux, so it's not like she's above Hollywood fluff. And John Malkovich is in Jonah Hex and did things like Johnny English in the past. The Transformers film franchise attracted Hugo Weaving, Jon Voight and Robert Foxworth before them, so I don't see why other notable actors being cast would be such a shock. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:14, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Weaving and Foxworth, at least, are both actors who've done mainstream scifi franchise stuff before, so I wasn't surprised by them at all, actually. But I always thought of McDormand and Malkovich as being more artsy movie types. (Maybe I'm just still skeptical that TF3's script is going to be less horrible than TF2's.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:30, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Yes, well, as I pointed out, it's not ''all'' they do. McDormand was in Aeon Flux. Malkovich is in a comic book film and was in a Rowan Atkinson comedy once, just to name a few. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:37, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::&lt;nowiki&gt;*&lt;/nowiki&gt;Michael Bay signs biiiiiiiig paycheck* That's why :p --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:31, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::John Malkovich should totally play Dr. Arkeville. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:41, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Possible Titles? ==<br /> <br /> Has anyone else heard these rumours about the possible titles: Rise of The Primes/Unicron/Galvatron. It is unlikely to be true, but should it be put in the notes, maybe? [[User:Titanus Prime|Titanus Prime]] 14:27, 30 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :We do not talk about crackpot rumours on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:32, 30 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::As soon as we get an official title, perhaps some of the rumored titles could be noted. Some, not all of them (maybe one or two likely titles and one off-the-wall one). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:54, 30 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Twins, Ironhide and Ratchet on TF3 ==<br /> <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-3-on-set-pictures---a-new-look-for-ratchet-169662/<br /> <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/first-behind-the-scenes-video-from-transformers-3-169679/ --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 0:13, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :These are not official sources. A Humvee does not mean Ratchet WILL get a new paintjob, and a flying car does not indicate the Twins being in the film. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:43, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Well one guy sayed that skids Would Apepar and throw a car (samrt car) it he sayed that before the video apepared and the video Looks like what he syaed but like you sayed they not offical source, still --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 01:15, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Bay Confirms tiwns are nto in tf3, but still the chevy spark/beat were spotted on set http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-spark-transformers-3.html--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]<br /> ::::That's still not an official source. If you can find a link where Bay or someone involved with the production says they're in, then that would do. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:35, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/new-transformers-3-on-set-pictures---including-a-clear-view-of-ratchets-new-look-169900/ Isn't this enough to prove that Ratchet and Ironhide will return?--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 04:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::Not really. For example, the &quot;Ratchet&quot; could just be a fire department truck assigned as part of a NEST unit. Or it could have been painted up after the second movie in expectation of him being used in the third, but before a decision was made not to use him. The bottom line is that those aren't officially released photos. This isn't an &quot;OMG look what I know that you don't site&quot; trying to beat everyone to the punch by making half-baked predictions, it is an archive of what has been officially shown. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:10, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::I don't think so. That ambulance is too similar. Hummer H2 and Autobot symbol on it. Autobot symbols are only used in Autobot alternate mode vehicles. NEST vehicles have no symbols or they have NEST logo. And what about Ironhide? Images are excatly enough to confirmation. These should be enough. There are no more proofs needed.--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 22:46, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::Doesn't matter. Those aren't OFFICIAL photos. They weren't released by Hasbro, Bay or anyone who has any control over things. They are, in effect, STOLEN intellectual property and DO NOT belong here. Whether your contentions turn out to be true or not is irrelevant. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:39, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Not only that, Michael Bay and others are on the record that they're intentionally spreading false info. Remember how there were sightings of Barricade around the time RotF was filming? - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:06, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::The pics have been confirmed and both ratchet and Ironhide have official pics with them being next to optimus prime and bumblebee and Ratchet still has his ''new'' colors. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 16:27 8 June 2010 (EDT) <br /> :::::::::Nope, we still don't count 'em unless Michael, Don, Nelson, or anyone directly affiliated/working on TF3 comes up and says so. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 16:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::Why is this such a hard concept. Unless any new photo/news is released by Hasbro itself or one of the authorities in charge of the film it does not go on the wiki. &lt;Cheetor&gt; PERIOD. &lt;Cheetor).--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 17:13, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Meh noone blevies they are i nmovie, WELL Lets wiat til lfilmngi begisn and you guys will see these pcis are REAL!!! {{unsigned|Eagc7|20:11, 10 June 2010 (EDT)}}<br /> :::It's not a case of not believing they're in the movie. I would say most people believe it. It's a case of these pictures being leaked information without official confirmation. And we don't include that sort of info on the wiki. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:14, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Right. This info might be &quot;obvious&quot;, but sometimes leaked info is less obvious and open to interpretation. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and no leaked info ever is pretty clear. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 21:00, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Megan Fox ==<br /> She was reportediy axed due to a want not to have Sam tied down with a love intrest.<br /> http://movies.yahoo.com/news/usmovies.accesshollywood.com/megan-fox-dropped-from-transformers-3<br /> :Reuters.com states it's due to Bay and company wishing to go a different direction. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64J04920100520 Bottom line, Fox is gone. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 21:32, 19 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::That news about Fox(cited) should probably be front and center in her own article, rather than down the bottom in trivia. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:11, 20 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Shockwave Has villian and FInal Film in the franchise ==<br /> <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/308221-transformers-3-movie-details-possible-spoilers-2.html<br /> :The above link is to the second page of a forum thread about an article ABOUT the article in question. Here's the actual article: http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2010-06-11-Transformers11_ST_N.htm?csp=usat.me -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:21, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::For those who don't feel like reading through it: no more goofball humor; twins are basically gone; new love interest for Sam; Shockwave is new villain; involves USA/USSR space race; characters who die stay dead this time. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:30, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DINOBOTS? ==<br /> <br /> In a interview with Josh Duhamel was asked if the dinobots are going to be in TF3,and he sayed that ''I can't answer that question'' which pretty much confirms that the Dinobots are going to be in it like they did with devastator in ROTF.so can we add them? {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 02:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :His deflection of the question doesn't &quot;pretty much&quot; confirm anything. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:39, 13 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> How so, he is playing coy and by now its common sense that when they do that it means its coming.Mis-information campaign.[[unregistered user]] 11:27, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* DINOBOTS? */</p> <hr /> <div>== Release date ==<br /> <br /> This page claims a release date of 1 July 2011, yet one of the sources given ([http://tformers.com/transformers-/11777/news.html]) gives a release date of 4 July 2012. Which is correct? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:25, 6 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> : That Tformers source is from months ago, before the release date was moved up. --[[Special:Contributions/67.149.197.71|67.149.197.71]] 12:59, 6 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> ::Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/199.90.28.195|199.90.28.195]] 15:21, 6 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Ik hoop dat Transformers 3 is heel beter dan RotF. Of anders... [[Special:Contributions/71.254.158.28|71.254.158.28]] 22:46, 13 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Image ==<br /> <br /> Wikipedia has a picture of a Transformers 3 titlecard. Should it be put here too? And Megan Fox should be added to the cast list.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 22:48, 3 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :[https://michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/a2bd79bb4c222b807e27707aaf1497e6-570.html michaelbay.com] does confirm Megan Fox, so she could be included with the reference, but I don't know where that image came from. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:56, 3 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::Said titlecard would be from Hasbro's Investor Day presentation back on November 5. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:44, 3 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Well, then somebody put those things here already --[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 20:01, 7 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I'm waiting...--[[Special:Contributions/142.32.208.231|142.32.208.231]] 15:06, 14 January 2010 (EST)<br /> just take off the picture its inapropriote for the kid users {{unsigned|208.102.3.1|15:53, 12 June 2010 (EDT)}}<br /> :The movies themselves are pretty kid-inappropriate. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 16:00, 12 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::a silhouette of a woman is not appropriate for kid users? They'd see worse on billboards. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:21, 12 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I'm not too crazy about the image, but I don't think it's too terribly bad [it's nothing compared to some of the Kiss Player stuff or the drawing of Wheelie lifting Teletraan-15's skirt; that stuff troubles me (yes, I know that's the nature of the Kiss Player beast)]. Besides, I have a feeling that the James Bond-ish pic will be removed as soon as we get some pics of the movie posters (might still see it on the Rosie article, though). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:52, 12 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == James Avery as Silverbot? ==<br /> [http://unscripted.ca/episodes/show/136] --[[User:Eagc7]]<br /> <br /> == New Actor Info ==<br /> <br /> ...is that seriously for real and not an early April Fool's prank on someone's part? Because... WTF? Who ever heard of Frances McDormand and John Malkovich doing anything in a Transformers movie? XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 10:54, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Hey now. Mrs. McDormand was in Aeon Flux, so it's not like she's above Hollywood fluff. And John Malkovich is in Jonah Hex and did things like Johnny English in the past. The Transformers film franchise attracted Hugo Weaving, Jon Voight and Robert Foxworth before them, so I don't see why other notable actors being cast would be such a shock. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:14, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Weaving and Foxworth, at least, are both actors who've done mainstream scifi franchise stuff before, so I wasn't surprised by them at all, actually. But I always thought of McDormand and Malkovich as being more artsy movie types. (Maybe I'm just still skeptical that TF3's script is going to be less horrible than TF2's.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:30, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Yes, well, as I pointed out, it's not ''all'' they do. McDormand was in Aeon Flux. Malkovich is in a comic book film and was in a Rowan Atkinson comedy once, just to name a few. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:37, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::&lt;nowiki&gt;*&lt;/nowiki&gt;Michael Bay signs biiiiiiiig paycheck* That's why :p --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:31, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::John Malkovich should totally play Dr. Arkeville. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:41, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Possible Titles? ==<br /> <br /> Has anyone else heard these rumours about the possible titles: Rise of The Primes/Unicron/Galvatron. It is unlikely to be true, but should it be put in the notes, maybe? [[User:Titanus Prime|Titanus Prime]] 14:27, 30 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :We do not talk about crackpot rumours on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:32, 30 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::As soon as we get an official title, perhaps some of the rumored titles could be noted. Some, not all of them (maybe one or two likely titles and one off-the-wall one). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:54, 30 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Twins, Ironhide and Ratchet on TF3 ==<br /> <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-3-on-set-pictures---a-new-look-for-ratchet-169662/<br /> <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/first-behind-the-scenes-video-from-transformers-3-169679/ --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 0:13, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :These are not official sources. A Humvee does not mean Ratchet WILL get a new paintjob, and a flying car does not indicate the Twins being in the film. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:43, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Well one guy sayed that skids Would Apepar and throw a car (samrt car) it he sayed that before the video apepared and the video Looks like what he syaed but like you sayed they not offical source, still --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 01:15, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Bay Confirms tiwns are nto in tf3, but still the chevy spark/beat were spotted on set http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-spark-transformers-3.html--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]<br /> ::::That's still not an official source. If you can find a link where Bay or someone involved with the production says they're in, then that would do. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:35, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/new-transformers-3-on-set-pictures---including-a-clear-view-of-ratchets-new-look-169900/ Isn't this enough to prove that Ratchet and Ironhide will return?--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 04:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::Not really. For example, the &quot;Ratchet&quot; could just be a fire department truck assigned as part of a NEST unit. Or it could have been painted up after the second movie in expectation of him being used in the third, but before a decision was made not to use him. The bottom line is that those aren't officially released photos. This isn't an &quot;OMG look what I know that you don't site&quot; trying to beat everyone to the punch by making half-baked predictions, it is an archive of what has been officially shown. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:10, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::I don't think so. That ambulance is too similar. Hummer H2 and Autobot symbol on it. Autobot symbols are only used in Autobot alternate mode vehicles. NEST vehicles have no symbols or they have NEST logo. And what about Ironhide? Images are excatly enough to confirmation. These should be enough. There are no more proofs needed.--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 22:46, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::Doesn't matter. Those aren't OFFICIAL photos. They weren't released by Hasbro, Bay or anyone who has any control over things. They are, in effect, STOLEN intellectual property and DO NOT belong here. Whether your contentions turn out to be true or not is irrelevant. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:39, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Not only that, Michael Bay and others are on the record that they're intentionally spreading false info. Remember how there were sightings of Barricade around the time RotF was filming? - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:06, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::The pics have been confirmed and both ratchet and Ironhide have official pics with them being next to optimus prime and bumblebee and Ratchet still has his ''new'' colors. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 16:27 8 June 2010 (EDT) <br /> :::::::::Nope, we still don't count 'em unless Michael, Don, Nelson, or anyone directly affiliated/working on TF3 comes up and says so. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 16:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::Why is this such a hard concept. Unless any new photo/news is released by Hasbro itself or one of the authorities in charge of the film it does not go on the wiki. &lt;Cheetor&gt; PERIOD. &lt;Cheetor).--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 17:13, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Meh noone blevies they are i nmovie, WELL Lets wiat til lfilmngi begisn and you guys will see these pcis are REAL!!! {{unsigned|Eagc7|20:11, 10 June 2010 (EDT)}}<br /> :::It's not a case of not believing they're in the movie. I would say most people believe it. It's a case of these pictures being leaked information without official confirmation. And we don't include that sort of info on the wiki. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:14, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Right. This info might be &quot;obvious&quot;, but sometimes leaked info is less obvious and open to interpretation. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and no leaked info ever is pretty clear. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 21:00, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Megan Fox ==<br /> She was reportediy axed due to a want not to have Sam tied down with a love intrest.<br /> http://movies.yahoo.com/news/usmovies.accesshollywood.com/megan-fox-dropped-from-transformers-3<br /> :Reuters.com states it's due to Bay and company wishing to go a different direction. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64J04920100520 Bottom line, Fox is gone. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 21:32, 19 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::That news about Fox(cited) should probably be front and center in her own article, rather than down the bottom in trivia. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:11, 20 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Shockwave Has villian and FInal Film in the franchise ==<br /> <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/308221-transformers-3-movie-details-possible-spoilers-2.html<br /> :The above link is to the second page of a forum thread about an article ABOUT the article in question. Here's the actual article: http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2010-06-11-Transformers11_ST_N.htm?csp=usat.me -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:21, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::For those who don't feel like reading through it: no more goofball humor; twins are basically gone; new love interest for Sam; Shockwave is new villain; involves USA/USSR space race; characters who die stay dead this time. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:30, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DINOBOTS? ==<br /> <br /> In a interview with Josh Duhamel was asked if the dinobots are going to be in TF3,and he sayed that ''I can't answer that question'' which pretty much confirms that the Dinobots are going to be in it like they did with devastator in ROTF.so can we add them? -- unregistered user 2:28,13 June 2010 (EDT)</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* DINOBOTS? */</p> <hr /> <div>== Release date ==<br /> <br /> This page claims a release date of 1 July 2011, yet one of the sources given ([http://tformers.com/transformers-/11777/news.html]) gives a release date of 4 July 2012. Which is correct? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:25, 6 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> : That Tformers source is from months ago, before the release date was moved up. --[[Special:Contributions/67.149.197.71|67.149.197.71]] 12:59, 6 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> ::Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/199.90.28.195|199.90.28.195]] 15:21, 6 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Ik hoop dat Transformers 3 is heel beter dan RotF. Of anders... [[Special:Contributions/71.254.158.28|71.254.158.28]] 22:46, 13 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Image ==<br /> <br /> Wikipedia has a picture of a Transformers 3 titlecard. Should it be put here too? And Megan Fox should be added to the cast list.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 22:48, 3 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :[https://michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/a2bd79bb4c222b807e27707aaf1497e6-570.html michaelbay.com] does confirm Megan Fox, so she could be included with the reference, but I don't know where that image came from. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:56, 3 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::Said titlecard would be from Hasbro's Investor Day presentation back on November 5. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:44, 3 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Well, then somebody put those things here already --[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 20:01, 7 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I'm waiting...--[[Special:Contributions/142.32.208.231|142.32.208.231]] 15:06, 14 January 2010 (EST)<br /> just take off the picture its inapropriote for the kid users {{unsigned|208.102.3.1|15:53, 12 June 2010 (EDT)}}<br /> :The movies themselves are pretty kid-inappropriate. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 16:00, 12 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::a silhouette of a woman is not appropriate for kid users? They'd see worse on billboards. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:21, 12 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I'm not too crazy about the image, but I don't think it's too terribly bad [it's nothing compared to some of the Kiss Player stuff or the drawing of Wheelie lifting Teletraan-15's skirt; that stuff troubles me (yes, I know that's the nature of the Kiss Player beast)]. Besides, I have a feeling that the James Bond-ish pic will be removed as soon as we get some pics of the movie posters (might still see it on the Rosie article, though). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:52, 12 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == James Avery as Silverbot? ==<br /> [http://unscripted.ca/episodes/show/136] --[[User:Eagc7]]<br /> <br /> == New Actor Info ==<br /> <br /> ...is that seriously for real and not an early April Fool's prank on someone's part? Because... WTF? Who ever heard of Frances McDormand and John Malkovich doing anything in a Transformers movie? XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 10:54, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Hey now. Mrs. McDormand was in Aeon Flux, so it's not like she's above Hollywood fluff. And John Malkovich is in Jonah Hex and did things like Johnny English in the past. The Transformers film franchise attracted Hugo Weaving, Jon Voight and Robert Foxworth before them, so I don't see why other notable actors being cast would be such a shock. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:14, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Weaving and Foxworth, at least, are both actors who've done mainstream scifi franchise stuff before, so I wasn't surprised by them at all, actually. But I always thought of McDormand and Malkovich as being more artsy movie types. (Maybe I'm just still skeptical that TF3's script is going to be less horrible than TF2's.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:30, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Yes, well, as I pointed out, it's not ''all'' they do. McDormand was in Aeon Flux. Malkovich is in a comic book film and was in a Rowan Atkinson comedy once, just to name a few. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:37, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::&lt;nowiki&gt;*&lt;/nowiki&gt;Michael Bay signs biiiiiiiig paycheck* That's why :p --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:31, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::John Malkovich should totally play Dr. Arkeville. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:41, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Possible Titles? ==<br /> <br /> Has anyone else heard these rumours about the possible titles: Rise of The Primes/Unicron/Galvatron. It is unlikely to be true, but should it be put in the notes, maybe? [[User:Titanus Prime|Titanus Prime]] 14:27, 30 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :We do not talk about crackpot rumours on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:32, 30 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::As soon as we get an official title, perhaps some of the rumored titles could be noted. Some, not all of them (maybe one or two likely titles and one off-the-wall one). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:54, 30 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Twins, Ironhide and Ratchet on TF3 ==<br /> <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-3-on-set-pictures---a-new-look-for-ratchet-169662/<br /> <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/first-behind-the-scenes-video-from-transformers-3-169679/ --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 0:13, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :These are not official sources. A Humvee does not mean Ratchet WILL get a new paintjob, and a flying car does not indicate the Twins being in the film. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:43, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Well one guy sayed that skids Would Apepar and throw a car (samrt car) it he sayed that before the video apepared and the video Looks like what he syaed but like you sayed they not offical source, still --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 01:15, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Bay Confirms tiwns are nto in tf3, but still the chevy spark/beat were spotted on set http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-spark-transformers-3.html--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]<br /> ::::That's still not an official source. If you can find a link where Bay or someone involved with the production says they're in, then that would do. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:35, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/new-transformers-3-on-set-pictures---including-a-clear-view-of-ratchets-new-look-169900/ Isn't this enough to prove that Ratchet and Ironhide will return?--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 04:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::Not really. For example, the &quot;Ratchet&quot; could just be a fire department truck assigned as part of a NEST unit. Or it could have been painted up after the second movie in expectation of him being used in the third, but before a decision was made not to use him. The bottom line is that those aren't officially released photos. This isn't an &quot;OMG look what I know that you don't site&quot; trying to beat everyone to the punch by making half-baked predictions, it is an archive of what has been officially shown. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:10, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::I don't think so. That ambulance is too similar. Hummer H2 and Autobot symbol on it. Autobot symbols are only used in Autobot alternate mode vehicles. NEST vehicles have no symbols or they have NEST logo. And what about Ironhide? Images are excatly enough to confirmation. These should be enough. There are no more proofs needed.--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 22:46, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::Doesn't matter. Those aren't OFFICIAL photos. They weren't released by Hasbro, Bay or anyone who has any control over things. They are, in effect, STOLEN intellectual property and DO NOT belong here. Whether your contentions turn out to be true or not is irrelevant. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:39, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Not only that, Michael Bay and others are on the record that they're intentionally spreading false info. Remember how there were sightings of Barricade around the time RotF was filming? - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:06, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::The pics have been confirmed and both ratchet and Ironhide have official pics with them being next to optimus prime and bumblebee and Ratchet still has his ''new'' colors. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 16:27 8 June 2010 (EDT) <br /> :::::::::Nope, we still don't count 'em unless Michael, Don, Nelson, or anyone directly affiliated/working on TF3 comes up and says so. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 16:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::Why is this such a hard concept. Unless any new photo/news is released by Hasbro itself or one of the authorities in charge of the film it does not go on the wiki. &lt;Cheetor&gt; PERIOD. &lt;Cheetor).--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 17:13, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Meh noone blevies they are i nmovie, WELL Lets wiat til lfilmngi begisn and you guys will see these pcis are REAL!!! {{unsigned|Eagc7|20:11, 10 June 2010 (EDT)}}<br /> :::It's not a case of not believing they're in the movie. I would say most people believe it. It's a case of these pictures being leaked information without official confirmation. And we don't include that sort of info on the wiki. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:14, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Right. This info might be &quot;obvious&quot;, but sometimes leaked info is less obvious and open to interpretation. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and no leaked info ever is pretty clear. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 21:00, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Megan Fox ==<br /> She was reportediy axed due to a want not to have Sam tied down with a love intrest.<br /> http://movies.yahoo.com/news/usmovies.accesshollywood.com/megan-fox-dropped-from-transformers-3<br /> :Reuters.com states it's due to Bay and company wishing to go a different direction. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64J04920100520 Bottom line, Fox is gone. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 21:32, 19 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::That news about Fox(cited) should probably be front and center in her own article, rather than down the bottom in trivia. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:11, 20 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Shockwave Has villian and FInal Film in the franchise ==<br /> <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/308221-transformers-3-movie-details-possible-spoilers-2.html<br /> :The above link is to the second page of a forum thread about an article ABOUT the article in question. Here's the actual article: http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2010-06-11-Transformers11_ST_N.htm?csp=usat.me -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:21, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::For those who don't feel like reading through it: no more goofball humor; twins are basically gone; new love interest for Sam; Shockwave is new villain; involves USA/USSR space race; characters who die stay dead this time. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:30, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DINOBOTS? ==<br /> <br /> In a interview with Josh Duhamel was asked if the dinobots are going to be in TF3,and he sayed that ''I can't answer that question'' which pretty much confirms that the Dinobots are going to be in it like they did with devastator in ROTF.so can we add them? - - unregistered user 2:28,13 June 2010 (EDT)</div>

98.204.17.1 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_Dark_of_the_Moon_(film)&diff=464546 2010-06-13T06:30:25Z

<p>98.204.17.1: /* DINOBOTS? */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>== Release date ==<br /> <br /> This page claims a release date of 1 July 2011, yet one of the sources given ([http://tformers.com/transformers-/11777/news.html]) gives a release date of 4 July 2012. Which is correct? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:25, 6 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> : That Tformers source is from months ago, before the release date was moved up. --[[Special:Contributions/67.149.197.71|67.149.197.71]] 12:59, 6 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> ::Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/199.90.28.195|199.90.28.195]] 15:21, 6 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Ik hoop dat Transformers 3 is heel beter dan RotF. Of anders... [[Special:Contributions/71.254.158.28|71.254.158.28]] 22:46, 13 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Image ==<br /> <br /> Wikipedia has a picture of a Transformers 3 titlecard. Should it be put here too? And Megan Fox should be added to the cast list.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 22:48, 3 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :[https://michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/a2bd79bb4c222b807e27707aaf1497e6-570.html michaelbay.com] does confirm Megan Fox, so she could be included with the reference, but I don't know where that image came from. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:56, 3 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::Said titlecard would be from Hasbro's Investor Day presentation back on November 5. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:44, 3 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Well, then somebody put those things here already --[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 20:01, 7 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I'm waiting...--[[Special:Contributions/142.32.208.231|142.32.208.231]] 15:06, 14 January 2010 (EST)<br /> just take off the picture its inapropriote for the kid users {{unsigned|208.102.3.1|15:53, 12 June 2010 (EDT)}}<br /> :The movies themselves are pretty kid-inappropriate. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 16:00, 12 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::a silhouette of a woman is not appropriate for kid users? They'd see worse on billboards. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:21, 12 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::I'm not too crazy about the image, but I don't think it's too terribly bad [it's nothing compared to some of the Kiss Player stuff or the drawing of Wheelie lifting Teletraan-15's skirt; that stuff troubles me (yes, I know that's the nature of the Kiss Player beast)]. Besides, I have a feeling that the James Bond-ish pic will be removed as soon as we get some pics of the movie posters (might still see it on the Rosie article, though). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:52, 12 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == James Avery as Silverbot? ==<br /> [http://unscripted.ca/episodes/show/136] --[[User:Eagc7]]<br /> <br /> == New Actor Info ==<br /> <br /> ...is that seriously for real and not an early April Fool's prank on someone's part? Because... WTF? Who ever heard of Frances McDormand and John Malkovich doing anything in a Transformers movie? XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 10:54, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Hey now. Mrs. McDormand was in Aeon Flux, so it's not like she's above Hollywood fluff. And John Malkovich is in Jonah Hex and did things like Johnny English in the past. The Transformers film franchise attracted Hugo Weaving, Jon Voight and Robert Foxworth before them, so I don't see why other notable actors being cast would be such a shock. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:14, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Weaving and Foxworth, at least, are both actors who've done mainstream scifi franchise stuff before, so I wasn't surprised by them at all, actually. But I always thought of McDormand and Malkovich as being more artsy movie types. (Maybe I'm just still skeptical that TF3's script is going to be less horrible than TF2's.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:30, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Yes, well, as I pointed out, it's not ''all'' they do. McDormand was in Aeon Flux. Malkovich is in a comic book film and was in a Rowan Atkinson comedy once, just to name a few. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:37, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::&lt;nowiki&gt;*&lt;/nowiki&gt;Michael Bay signs biiiiiiiig paycheck* That's why :p --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:31, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::John Malkovich should totally play Dr. Arkeville. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:41, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Possible Titles? ==<br /> <br /> Has anyone else heard these rumours about the possible titles: Rise of The Primes/Unicron/Galvatron. It is unlikely to be true, but should it be put in the notes, maybe? [[User:Titanus Prime|Titanus Prime]] 14:27, 30 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :We do not talk about crackpot rumours on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:32, 30 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::As soon as we get an official title, perhaps some of the rumored titles could be noted. Some, not all of them (maybe one or two likely titles and one off-the-wall one). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:54, 30 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Twins, Ironhide and Ratchet on TF3 ==<br /> <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-3-on-set-pictures---a-new-look-for-ratchet-169662/<br /> <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/first-behind-the-scenes-video-from-transformers-3-169679/ --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 0:13, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :These are not official sources. A Humvee does not mean Ratchet WILL get a new paintjob, and a flying car does not indicate the Twins being in the film. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:43, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Well one guy sayed that skids Would Apepar and throw a car (samrt car) it he sayed that before the video apepared and the video Looks like what he syaed but like you sayed they not offical source, still --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 01:15, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Bay Confirms tiwns are nto in tf3, but still the chevy spark/beat were spotted on set http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-spark-transformers-3.html--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]<br /> ::::That's still not an official source. If you can find a link where Bay or someone involved with the production says they're in, then that would do. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:35, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/new-transformers-3-on-set-pictures---including-a-clear-view-of-ratchets-new-look-169900/ Isn't this enough to prove that Ratchet and Ironhide will return?--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 04:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::Not really. For example, the &quot;Ratchet&quot; could just be a fire department truck assigned as part of a NEST unit. Or it could have been painted up after the second movie in expectation of him being used in the third, but before a decision was made not to use him. The bottom line is that those aren't officially released photos. This isn't an &quot;OMG look what I know that you don't site&quot; trying to beat everyone to the punch by making half-baked predictions, it is an archive of what has been officially shown. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:10, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::I don't think so. That ambulance is too similar. Hummer H2 and Autobot symbol on it. Autobot symbols are only used in Autobot alternate mode vehicles. NEST vehicles have no symbols or they have NEST logo. And what about Ironhide? Images are excatly enough to confirmation. These should be enough. There are no more proofs needed.--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 22:46, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::Doesn't matter. Those aren't OFFICIAL photos. They weren't released by Hasbro, Bay or anyone who has any control over things. They are, in effect, STOLEN intellectual property and DO NOT belong here. Whether your contentions turn out to be true or not is irrelevant. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:39, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Not only that, Michael Bay and others are on the record that they're intentionally spreading false info. Remember how there were sightings of Barricade around the time RotF was filming? - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:06, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::The pics have been confirmed and both ratchet and Ironhide have official pics with them being next to optimus prime and bumblebee and Ratchet still has his ''new'' colors. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 16:27 8 June 2010 (EDT) <br /> :::::::::Nope, we still don't count 'em unless Michael, Don, Nelson, or anyone directly affiliated/working on TF3 comes up and says so. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 16:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::Why is this such a hard concept. Unless any new photo/news is released by Hasbro itself or one of the authorities in charge of the film it does not go on the wiki. &lt;Cheetor&gt; PERIOD. &lt;Cheetor).--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 17:13, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Meh noone blevies they are i nmovie, WELL Lets wiat til lfilmngi begisn and you guys will see these pcis are REAL!!! {{unsigned|Eagc7|20:11, 10 June 2010 (EDT)}}<br /> :::It's not a case of not believing they're in the movie. I would say most people believe it. It's a case of these pictures being leaked information without official confirmation. And we don't include that sort of info on the wiki. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:14, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Right. This info might be &quot;obvious&quot;, but sometimes leaked info is less obvious and open to interpretation. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and no leaked info ever is pretty clear. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 21:00, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Megan Fox ==<br /> She was reportediy axed due to a want not to have Sam tied down with a love intrest.<br /> http://movies.yahoo.com/news/usmovies.accesshollywood.com/megan-fox-dropped-from-transformers-3<br /> :Reuters.com states it's due to Bay and company wishing to go a different direction. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64J04920100520 Bottom line, Fox is gone. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 21:32, 19 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::That news about Fox(cited) should probably be front and center in her own article, rather than down the bottom in trivia. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:11, 20 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Shockwave Has villian and FInal Film in the franchise ==<br /> <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/308221-transformers-3-movie-details-possible-spoilers-2.html<br /> :The above link is to the second page of a forum thread about an article ABOUT the article in question. Here's the actual article: http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2010-06-11-Transformers11_ST_N.htm?csp=usat.me -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:21, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::For those who don't feel like reading through it: no more goofball humor; twins are basically gone; new love interest for Sam; Shockwave is new villain; involves USA/USSR space race; characters who die stay dead this time. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:30, 10 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == DINOBOTS? ==<br /> <br /> In a interview with Josh Duhamel was asked if the dinobots are going to be in TF3,and he sayed that ''I can't answer that question'' which pretty much confirms that the Dinobots are going to be in it like they did with devastator in ROTF.so can we add them? - unregistered user 2:28,13 June 2010 (EDT)</div>

98.204.17.1 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_Dark_of_the_Moon_(film)&diff=463568 2010-06-08T20:27:35Z

<p>98.204.17.1: /* Twins, Ironhide and Ratchet on TF3 */</p> <hr /> <div>== Release date ==<br /> <br /> This page claims a release date of 1 July 2011, yet one of the sources given ([http://tformers.com/transformers-/11777/news.html]) gives a release date of 4 July 2012. Which is correct? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:25, 6 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> : That Tformers source is from months ago, before the release date was moved up. --[[Special:Contributions/67.149.197.71|67.149.197.71]] 12:59, 6 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> ::Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/199.90.28.195|199.90.28.195]] 15:21, 6 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Ik hoop dat Transformers 3 is heel beter dan RotF. Of anders... [[Special:Contributions/71.254.158.28|71.254.158.28]] 22:46, 13 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Image ==<br /> <br /> Wikipedia has a picture of a Transformers 3 titlecard. Should it be put here too? And Megan Fox should be added to the cast list.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 22:48, 3 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :[https://michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/a2bd79bb4c222b807e27707aaf1497e6-570.html michaelbay.com] does confirm Megan Fox, so she could be included with the reference, but I don't know where that image came from. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:56, 3 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::Said titlecard would be from Hasbro's Investor Day presentation back on November 5. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:44, 3 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Well, then somebody put those things here already --[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 20:01, 7 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I'm waiting...--[[Special:Contributions/142.32.208.231|142.32.208.231]] 15:06, 14 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == James Avery as Silverbot? ==<br /> [http://unscripted.ca/episodes/show/136] --[[User:Eagc7]]<br /> <br /> == New Actor Info ==<br /> <br /> ...is that seriously for real and not an early April Fool's prank on someone's part? Because... WTF? Who ever heard of Frances McDormand and John Malkovich doing anything in a Transformers movie? XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 10:54, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Hey now. Mrs. McDormand was in Aeon Flux, so it's not like she's above Hollywood fluff. And John Malkovich is in Jonah Hex and did things like Johnny English in the past. The Transformers film franchise attracted Hugo Weaving, Jon Voight and Robert Foxworth before them, so I don't see why other notable actors being cast would be such a shock. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:14, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Weaving and Foxworth, at least, are both actors who've done mainstream scifi franchise stuff before, so I wasn't surprised by them at all, actually. But I always thought of McDormand and Malkovich as being more artsy movie types. (Maybe I'm just still skeptical that TF3's script is going to be less horrible than TF2's.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:30, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Yes, well, as I pointed out, it's not ''all'' they do. McDormand was in Aeon Flux. Malkovich is in a comic book film and was in a Rowan Atkinson comedy once, just to name a few. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:37, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::&lt;nowiki&gt;*&lt;/nowiki&gt;Michael Bay signs biiiiiiiig paycheck* That's why :p --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:31, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::John Malkovich should totally play Dr. Arkeville. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:41, 22 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Possible Titles? ==<br /> <br /> Has anyone else heard these rumours about the possible titles: Rise of The Primes/Unicron/Galvatron. It is unlikely to be true, but should it be put in the notes, maybe? [[User:Titanus Prime|Titanus Prime]] 14:27, 30 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :We do not talk about crackpot rumours on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:32, 30 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::As soon as we get an official title, perhaps some of the rumored titles could be noted. Some, not all of them (maybe one or two likely titles and one off-the-wall one). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:54, 30 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Twins, Ironhide and Ratchet on TF3 ==<br /> <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-3-on-set-pictures---a-new-look-for-ratchet-169662/<br /> <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/first-behind-the-scenes-video-from-transformers-3-169679/ --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 0:13, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :These are not official sources. A Humvee does not mean Ratchet WILL get a new paintjob, and a flying car does not indicate the Twins being in the film. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:43, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Well one guy sayed that skids Would Apepar and throw a car (samrt car) it he sayed that before the video apepared and the video Looks like what he syaed but like you sayed they not offical source, still --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 01:15, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Bay Confirms tiwns are nto in tf3, but still the chevy spark/beat were spotted on set http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-spark-transformers-3.html--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]<br /> ::::That's still not an official source. If you can find a link where Bay or someone involved with the production says they're in, then that would do. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:35, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/new-transformers-3-on-set-pictures---including-a-clear-view-of-ratchets-new-look-169900/ Isn't this enough to prove that Ratchet and Ironhide will return?--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 04:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::Not really. For example, the &quot;Ratchet&quot; could just be a fire department truck assigned as part of a NEST unit. Or it could have been painted up after the second movie in expectation of him being used in the third, but before a decision was made not to use him. The bottom line is that those aren't officially released photos. This isn't an &quot;OMG look what I know that you don't site&quot; trying to beat everyone to the punch by making half-baked predictions, it is an archive of what has been officially shown. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:10, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::I don't think so. That ambulance is too similar. Hummer H2 and Autobot symbol on it. Autobot symbols are only used in Autobot alternate mode vehicles. NEST vehicles have no symbols or they have NEST logo. And what about Ironhide? Images are excatly enough to confirmation. These should be enough. There are no more proofs needed.--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 22:46, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::Doesn't matter. Those aren't OFFICIAL photos. They weren't released by Hasbro, Bay or anyone who has any control over things. They are, in effect, STOLEN intellectual property and DO NOT belong here. Whether your contentions turn out to be true or not is irrelevant. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:39, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Not only that, Michael Bay and others are on the record that they're intentionally spreading false info. Remember how there were sightings of Barricade around the time RotF was filming? - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:06, 8 June 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::The pics have been confirmed and both ratchet and Ironhide have official pics with them being next to optimus prime and bumblebee and Ratchet still has his ''new'' colors.<br /> <br /> == Megan Fox ==<br /> She was reportediy axed due to a want not to have Sam tied down with a love intrest.<br /> http://movies.yahoo.com/news/usmovies.accesshollywood.com/megan-fox-dropped-from-transformers-3<br /> :Reuters.com states it's due to Bay and company wishing to go a different direction. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64J04920100520 Bottom line, Fox is gone. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 21:32, 19 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::That news about Fox(cited) should probably be front and center in her own article, rather than down the bottom in trivia. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:11, 20 May 2010 (EDT)</div>

98.204.17.1 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Transformers:_War_for_Cybertron_(games)&diff=460716 2010-05-26T22:02:46Z

<p>98.204.17.1: /* Characters */</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Transformerswarforcybertron.jpg|center|500px|]]<br /> <br /> '''''Transformers: War for Cybertron''''' is a video game developed by [[High Moon Studios]] and published by [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]], set before the Transformers take their war to [[Earth]]. [[Hasbro]] intends it to act as a foundation for ''[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]'' franchise storylines for years to come, and so they've been giving a lot of input and stressing character development.&lt;ref name=&quot;tfw2005&quot;&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/tfw2005-war-for-cybertron-interview-with-aaron-archer-and-matt-tieger-168910/ War for Cybertron interview with Aaron Archer and Matt Tieger @ TFW2005.com]&lt;/ref&gt; The upcoming book ''[[Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron]]'' will be a tie-in to the game and its fiction, as will the cartoon series ''[[Transformers: Prime]]''.{{fact}}<br /> <br /> Unlike previous ''Transformers'' video games which feature distinctly separate campaigns for the Autobots and the Decepticons (traditionally depicting the playable faction utterly defeating the other), ''War for Cybertron'' will feature a single, linear storyline; the Decepticon campaign occurs chronologically before the Autobot campaign, but [[Fandom|fans]] can play through them in whichever order they prefer.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.seibertron.com/news/index.php?f_keyword=war+for+cybertron Seibertron Q&amp;A with Activision]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> The game itself will be an over-the-shoulder third-person shooter in which the player can choose his character from a small roster of either Autobots or Decepticons. The game will be released on [[June 22]], [[2010]], for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, Nintendo Wii (as ''[[Transformers: Cybertron Adventures]]''), Nintendo DS and personal computers. <br /> {{quote|One shall stand.|Optimus}}<br /> :{{quote|One shall fall.|Megatron}}<br /> <br /> ==Synopsis==<br /> <br /> [[Image:WarforCybertron-OptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|400px|Prime auditions for Unreal Tournament. There were no survivors.]]<br /> <br /> The game is set during the waning days of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] before coming to Earth. [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], genuinely believing a caste system will bring Cybertron back to its [[Golden Age]], is researching a dangerous power source known as [[Dark Energon]] to fuel his conquest of the planet. [[Optimus Prime (G1)|A guy called Optimus]] assumes temporary command following an attack on [[Iacon]] that killed [[Zeta Prime]], but he is not yet leader of the Autobots and doesn't really want to be in charge either. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ TFW2005 visits High Moon Studios]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> [[Starscream]] joins the Decepticons as second-in-command, but does not consider either Optimus or Megatron to have the planet's best interests at heart. (We will apparently learn ''why'' Starscream is such a whopping traitor and why Megatron [[:Image:Infiltration6_takeyourpunishment.jpg|doesn't just]] [[:Image:Swordscream.JPG|kill him]]).<br /> <br /> ==Characters==<br /> At the start of each level, the player can choose from one of three characters. Characters belong to one of four distinct classes: <br /> <br /> * '''Leaders:''' Vehicle forms are trucks. Support their team with buffs and debuff the enemy team.<br /> * '''Soldiers:''' Vehicle forms are tanks. Have heavy-hitting ranged and melee weaponry.<br /> * '''Scientists:''' Vehicle forms are jets. Use a variety of tricky technology and precise long-distance weaponry to heal their allies and control the battlefield from a distance.<br /> * '''Scouts:''' Vehicle forms are cars. Specialize in evasion and high-speed combat, along with disabling functions like EMP grenades.<br /> <br /> The characters available will shift from level to level. <br /> <br /> Known playable characters include:<br /> <br /> '''Autobots'''<br /> *[[Optimus_Prime_(G1)#War_for_Cybertron_video_game|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]]) ([http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/11/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-optimus-prime.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])<br /> *[[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] ([[Johnny Yong Bosch]]) &lt;ref&gt;[http://twitter.com/johnnyyongbosch/status/11686292590 Twitter post by Johnny Yong Bosch confirming his role as Bumblebee.]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *[[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]<br /> *[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]<br /> *[[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]]<br /> *[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]<br /> *[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]<br /> *[[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] *[[Warpath]] (G1)|Warpath]] <br /> *[[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] (Best Buy preorder exclusive) &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;jsessionid=0BAF66FE711A7E74FCE4428DB954168C.bbolsp-app04-47?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&amp;_dynSessConf=4725946217004960156&amp;id=pcat17071&amp;type=page&amp;st=Transformers+War+for+Cybertron&amp;sc=Global&amp;cp=1&amp;nrp=15&amp;sp=&amp;qp=&amp;list=n&amp;iht=y&amp;usc=All+Categories&amp;ks=960 Bestbuy.com preorder page featuring a special Jazz trailer]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> '''Decepticons'''<br /> *[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/18/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-megatron.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])<br /> *[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/23/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-starscream.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])<br /> *[[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]<br /> *[[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]]<br /> *[[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]<br /> *[[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]]<br /> *[[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] <br /> *[[Barricade (G1)|Barricade]]<br /> *[[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] (Gamestop preorder Multiplayer exclusive)<br /> *[[Demolishor (WFC)|Demolishor]] (Amazon.com preorder Multiplayer exclusive &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-War-Cybertron-Playstation-3/dp/B0030HM2WO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=videogames&amp;qid=1270579997&amp;sr=8-1 Amazon.com preorder page featuring a special Demolishor trailer]&lt;/ref&gt;, Play.com exclusive in UK)<br /> <br /> The Decepticon campaign includes a boss battle with [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] and the Autobot campaign includes defending [[Iacon]]. [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] appears in the IGN trailer, but he's, uh, probably not playable. Players should expect references to Cybertron locations taken from all previous Transformer stories, &quot;things which may have only been referenced once, in one comic way back when, could be used and expanded upon.&quot;&lt;ref name=&quot;tfw2005&quot;/&gt;<br /> <br /> ...They're totally reading the Wiki, aren't they? Hello, designers!<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-Bumblebee.jpg|Bumblebee fires his weapon.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-RatchetBumblebeePrime.jpg|Ratchet, Bumblebee, and Prime in battle.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-OmegaSupreme.jpg|Omega Supreme attacks a platoon of Decepticons.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-StarscreamMegatron.jpg|Starscream and Megatron get ready for the ground assault.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-StarscreamMegatronSoundwave.jpg|More Decepticons!<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-Soundwave.jpg|Soundwave sneaks around.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-Trypticon.jpg|Oh Primus.<br /> Image:War for Cybertron Shockwave.jpg|Resistance really does seem to be futile. <br /> Image:WfC-Kutaku-Grimlock.jpg|Dynobot?<br /> Image: DemolishorWar for Cyb.jpg<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Features==<br /> * Campaigns will be co-op online for the first time in a Transformers game.<br /> * All playable characters have two special abilities, such as absorbing health from enemies or marking targets.<br /> * The game will run on the Unreal engine.<br /> * High Moon is prepared to &quot;support the game after release,&quot; meaning either patches or downloadable content.<br /> * Online Multiplayer is being developed for the game.<br /> * All environments, including cover, can be destroyed.<br /> * Characters transform at any time with an easy and quick tap of the Left Analog stick. There is no &quot;cool down&quot; so players can transform as often and as freely as they wish.<br /> * The ability to create your own Transformers character for multiplayer. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.3news.co.nz/Transformers-War-for-Cybertron-trailer/tabid/418/articleID/144347/Default.aspx War For Cybertron trailer news at 3news.co.nz]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Production==<br /> <br /> As an early marketing campaign, the game's website included the feature &quot;Operation Transmission Recovery&quot;: using transmission and coordinate dials, you could pick up &quot;transmissions&quot; from Cybertron (or &quot;video clips&quot; to you and me). <br /> <br /> The art and design team did intense research (i.e. watched the original cartoon, looked at comics, and watched &quot;typical sci-fi cool stuff&quot; like ''Blade Runner'') to work out the aesthetic of Cybertron; lead artist [[Ivan Power]] remarked that the original cartoon was the main inspiration, and that Cybertron wasn't shown there so they had to rewatch the same few clips &quot;over and over&quot;. While many of the city designs are elaborate and shiny, Decepticon [[Kaon]] was deliberately designed to be sharp-edged, rusting, and slapped together to show the Decepticons weren't interested in building a functioning society. &lt;ref&gt;[http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/21/transformers-art-video.aspx Game Informer: Behind the Art of War for Cybertron]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Operation Transmission Recovery==<br /> <br /> As an early marketing campaign, the game's website included the feature &quot;Operation Transmission Recovery&quot;: using transmission and coordinate dials, you could pick up &quot;transmissions&quot; from Cybertron (or &quot;video clips/images&quot; to you and me).<br /> <br /> There are two dials, blue (outer) and yellow (inner). Using your mouse, you can drag the dial to set coordinates. The blue dial is set by aligning it to marks on the outer circle. When aligned, it becomes a blue ring. After that, the yellow dial is set so that signal strength is full, as indicated by a meter on the right. Once a transmission is unlocked its symbol lights up and the &quot;Total Recovered&quot; amount increases a little bit. When you reach 100%, it tells you how many hours remain until next batch. <br /> <br /> As of January 12, 2010, the following transmissions (Batch 9), almost all of which are part of the second trailer (link below), were available:<br /> <br /> {| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5<br /> | '''S. No.'''<br /> | '''Blue''' <br /> | '''Yellow'''<br /> | '''Type'''<br /> | '''Description'''<br /> |- <br /> | 1<br /> | 351<br /> | 327<br /> | Video<br /> | Game Trailer (unlocked by default).<br /> |-<br /> | 2<br /> | 018<br /> | 088<br /> | Video<br /> | Starscream flying.<br /> |-<br /> | 3<br /> | 018<br /> | 088<br /> | Image<br /> | Starscream standing.<br /> |-<br /> | 4<br /> | 029<br /> | 209<br /> | Video<br /> | Battle scene: Camera behind Autobots, Optimus is prominent.<br /> |-<br /> | 5<br /> | 040<br /> | 328<br /> | Image<br /> | Holographic map of Cybertron and its two moons.<br /> |-<br /> | 6<br /> | 051<br /> | 110<br /> | Image<br /> | Cybertron .<br /> |-<br /> | 7<br /> | 073<br /> | 190<br /> | Image<br /> | Optimus vs an average Decepticon.<br /> |-<br /> | 8<br /> | 085<br /> | 298<br /> | Video<br /> | Decepticon insignia (on Starscream).<br /> |-<br /> | 9<br /> | 096 <br /> | 347<br /> | Video<br /> | A bomb explosion on Cybertron's surface (possibly the same one which made a huge hole in it).<br /> |-<br /> | 10<br /> | 107<br /> | 035<br /> | Image<br /> | Megatron crushes cranial unit of a poor Autobot, Starscream is visible behind him, just before the ground assault.<br /> |-<br /> | 11<br /> | 120<br /> | 040<br /> | Image<br /> | Cybertron as seen from a moon.<br /> |-<br /> | 12<br /> | 140<br /> | 201<br /> | Image<br /> | Starscream flying towards Cybertron .<br /> |-<br /> | 13<br /> | 162<br /> | 359<br /> | Image<br /> | A red robot (Ironhide?).<br /> |-<br /> | 14<br /> | 173<br /> | 003<br /> | Image<br /> | A hall (Council of Autobot Elders?).<br /> |-<br /> | 15<br /> | 192<br /> | 147<br /> | Video<br /> | Injured Autobot, trying to get up .<br /> |-<br /> | 16<br /> | 203<br /> | 094<br /> | Video<br /> | Battle scene: Trypticon joins the battle as a burning asteroid (Entry mode) behind Decepticons and Autobots run towards it.<br /> |-<br /> | 17<br /> | 214<br /> | 004<br /> | Image<br /> | A city seen from a tunnel .<br /> |-<br /> | 18<br /> | 225<br /> | 199<br /> | Image<br /> | A city tower falling and hitting another tower.<br /> |-<br /> | 19<br /> | 265<br /> | 011<br /> | Image<br /> | Optimus Prime.<br /> |-<br /> | 20<br /> | 284<br /> | 021<br /> | Image<br /> | Megatron firing his gun (at YOU).<br /> |-<br /> | 21<br /> | 295<br /> | 249<br /> | Video<br /> | Optimus uses his axe on a Decepticon.<br /> |-<br /> | 22<br /> | 306<br /> | 041<br /> | Image<br /> | Cybertron as seen from another moon.<br /> |-<br /> | 23<br /> | 317<br /> | 081<br /> | Video<br /> | City skyline, camera moving down, some music in the background (start of the second trailer).<br /> |-<br /> | 24<br /> | 328<br /> | 221<br /> | Video<br /> | Battle scene: A missile hits a battlestation and an Autobot falls down from it.<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Toy tie-ins==<br /> [[Hasbro]] has confirmed that several toys will be made to tie into the promotion of the video game. These include figures of Optimus Prime, Megatron, and Bumblebee. At [[Toy Fair 2010]], they were confirmed to be part of the [[Generations (toyline)|''Generations'' toyline]].<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:WFC Optimus Prime toy.jpg<br /> Image:WFC Megatron toy.jpg<br /> Image:WFC Bumblebee toy.jpg<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Comic adaptation==<br /> <br /> [[IDW Publishing]] are bringing out a comic based on the game. News of this first got leaked when [[Australia|Australian]] website JB Hi-Fi offered a ''free'' copy of issue 1 if you pre-ordered the game from them. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/game/ps3/transformers-war-for-cybertron-bonus-comic-book/513755 TRANSFORMERS: WAR FOR CYBERTRON (Bonus Comic Book)]&lt;/ref&gt; The artist to the cover is revealed to be [[Marcelo Matere]], who updated his DeviantArt gallery with the inked version, &lt;ref&gt;[http://mmatere.deviantart.com/art/War-of-Cybertron-Cover-inks-165279485 Inks-only comic cover at Marcelo's DA gallery]&lt;/ref&gt; with [[Priscilla Tramontano]] as colorist. &lt;ref&gt;[http://noprips.deviantart.com/art/War-of-Cybertron-Cover-165344432 Colored cover at Priscilla's DA gallery]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://www.transformersgame.com/ Official site]<br /> *[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-debut-transformers-war/59860 Exclusive trailer via 'Game Trailers TV']<br /> *[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-gameplay-transformers-war/62343 Exclusive gameplay trailer via 'Game Trailers TV']<br /> *[http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/54929/transformers-war-for-cybertron/videos/transformerscyber_trl_revealtrailer_10710.html;jsessionid=8yroitu115mw Second, fuller trailer from IGN]<br /> *[http://gameinformer.com/mag/cybertron.aspx Behind the scenes bios and information from ''Game Informer'' magazine.]<br /> *[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gdc-10-transformers-war/62925 Civil War Story Interview at 'Game Trailers TV']<br /> *[http://www.allspark.com/content/view/6450/20/ Press release]<br /> <br /> [[Category: Video games]]</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* Characters */</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Transformerswarforcybertron.jpg|center|500px|]]<br /> <br /> '''''Transformers: War for Cybertron''''' is a video game developed by [[High Moon Studios]] and published by [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]], set before the Transformers take their war to [[Earth]]. [[Hasbro]] intends it to act as a foundation for ''[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]'' franchise storylines for years to come, and so they've been giving a lot of input and stressing character development.&lt;ref name=&quot;tfw2005&quot;&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/tfw2005-war-for-cybertron-interview-with-aaron-archer-and-matt-tieger-168910/ War for Cybertron interview with Aaron Archer and Matt Tieger @ TFW2005.com]&lt;/ref&gt; The upcoming book ''[[Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron]]'' will be a tie-in to the game and its fiction, as will the cartoon series ''[[Transformers: Prime]]''.{{fact}}<br /> <br /> Unlike previous ''Transformers'' video games which feature distinctly separate campaigns for the Autobots and the Decepticons (traditionally depicting the playable faction utterly defeating the other), ''War for Cybertron'' will feature a single, linear storyline; the Decepticon campaign occurs chronologically before the Autobot campaign, but [[Fandom|fans]] can play through them in whichever order they prefer.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.seibertron.com/news/index.php?f_keyword=war+for+cybertron Seibertron Q&amp;A with Activision]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> The game itself will be an over-the-shoulder third-person shooter in which the player can choose his character from a small roster of either Autobots or Decepticons. The game will be released on [[June 22]], [[2010]], for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, Nintendo Wii (as ''[[Transformers: Cybertron Adventures]]''), Nintendo DS and personal computers. <br /> {{quote|One shall stand.|Optimus}}<br /> :{{quote|One shall fall.|Megatron}}<br /> <br /> ==Synopsis==<br /> <br /> [[Image:WarforCybertron-OptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|400px|Prime auditions for Unreal Tournament. There were no survivors.]]<br /> <br /> The game is set during the waning days of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] before coming to Earth. [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], genuinely believing a caste system will bring Cybertron back to its [[Golden Age]], is researching a dangerous power source known as [[Dark Energon]] to fuel his conquest of the planet. [[Optimus Prime (G1)|A guy called Optimus]] assumes temporary command following an attack on [[Iacon]] that killed [[Zeta Prime]], but he is not yet leader of the Autobots and doesn't really want to be in charge either. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ TFW2005 visits High Moon Studios]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> [[Starscream]] joins the Decepticons as second-in-command, but does not consider either Optimus or Megatron to have the planet's best interests at heart. (We will apparently learn ''why'' Starscream is such a whopping traitor and why Megatron [[:Image:Infiltration6_takeyourpunishment.jpg|doesn't just]] [[:Image:Swordscream.JPG|kill him]]).<br /> <br /> ==Characters==<br /> At the start of each level, the player can choose from one of three characters. Characters belong to one of four distinct classes: <br /> <br /> * '''Leaders:''' Vehicle forms are trucks. Support their team with buffs and debuff the enemy team.<br /> * '''Soldiers:''' Vehicle forms are tanks. Have heavy-hitting ranged and melee weaponry.<br /> * '''Scientists:''' Vehicle forms are jets. Use a variety of tricky technology and precise long-distance weaponry to heal their allies and control the battlefield from a distance.<br /> * '''Scouts:''' Vehicle forms are cars. Specialize in evasion and high-speed combat, along with disabling functions like EMP grenades.<br /> <br /> The characters available will shift from level to level. <br /> <br /> Known playable characters include:<br /> <br /> '''Autobots'''<br /> *[[Optimus_Prime_(G1)#War_for_Cybertron_video_game|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]]) ([http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/11/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-optimus-prime.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])<br /> *[[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] ([[Johnny Yong Bosch]]) &lt;ref&gt;[http://twitter.com/johnnyyongbosch/status/11686292590 Twitter post by Johnny Yong Bosch confirming his role as Bumblebee.]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *[[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]<br /> *[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]<br /> *[[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]]<br /> *[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]<br /> *[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]<br /> *[[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] *[[Warpath]] (G1)|warpath]] *Grimlock (G1) |Grimlock]]<br /> *[[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] (Best Buy preorder exclusive) &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;jsessionid=0BAF66FE711A7E74FCE4428DB954168C.bbolsp-app04-47?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&amp;_dynSessConf=4725946217004960156&amp;id=pcat17071&amp;type=page&amp;st=Transformers+War+for+Cybertron&amp;sc=Global&amp;cp=1&amp;nrp=15&amp;sp=&amp;qp=&amp;list=n&amp;iht=y&amp;usc=All+Categories&amp;ks=960 Bestbuy.com preorder page featuring a special Jazz trailer]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> '''Decepticons'''<br /> *[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/18/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-megatron.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])<br /> *[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/23/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-starscream.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])<br /> *[[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]<br /> *[[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]]<br /> *[[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]<br /> *[[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]]<br /> *[[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] <br /> *[[Barricade (G1)|Barricade]]<br /> *[[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] (Gamestop preorder Multiplayer exclusive)<br /> *[[Demolishor (WFC)|Demolishor]] (Amazon.com preorder Multiplayer exclusive &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-War-Cybertron-Playstation-3/dp/B0030HM2WO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=videogames&amp;qid=1270579997&amp;sr=8-1 Amazon.com preorder page featuring a special Demolishor trailer]&lt;/ref&gt;, Play.com exclusive in UK)<br /> <br /> The Decepticon campaign includes a boss battle with [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] and the Autobot campaign includes defending [[Iacon]]. [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] appears in the IGN trailer, but he's, uh, probably not playable. Players should expect references to Cybertron locations taken from all previous Transformer stories, &quot;things which may have only been referenced once, in one comic way back when, could be used and expanded upon.&quot;&lt;ref name=&quot;tfw2005&quot;/&gt;<br /> <br /> ...They're totally reading the Wiki, aren't they? Hello, designers!<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-Bumblebee.jpg|Bumblebee fires his weapon.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-RatchetBumblebeePrime.jpg|Ratchet, Bumblebee, and Prime in battle.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-OmegaSupreme.jpg|Omega Supreme attacks a platoon of Decepticons.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-StarscreamMegatron.jpg|Starscream and Megatron get ready for the ground assault.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-StarscreamMegatronSoundwave.jpg|More Decepticons!<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-Soundwave.jpg|Soundwave sneaks around.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-Trypticon.jpg|Oh Primus.<br /> Image:War for Cybertron Shockwave.jpg|Resistance really does seem to be futile. <br /> Image:WfC-Kutaku-Grimlock.jpg|Dynobot?<br /> Image: DemolishorWar for Cyb.jpg<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Features==<br /> * Campaigns will be co-op online for the first time in a Transformers game.<br /> * All playable characters have two special abilities, such as absorbing health from enemies or marking targets.<br /> * The game will run on the Unreal engine.<br /> * High Moon is prepared to &quot;support the game after release,&quot; meaning either patches or downloadable content.<br /> * Online Multiplayer is being developed for the game.<br /> * All environments, including cover, can be destroyed.<br /> * Characters transform at any time with an easy and quick tap of the Left Analog stick. There is no &quot;cool down&quot; so players can transform as often and as freely as they wish.<br /> * The ability to create your own Transformers character for multiplayer. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.3news.co.nz/Transformers-War-for-Cybertron-trailer/tabid/418/articleID/144347/Default.aspx War For Cybertron trailer news at 3news.co.nz]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Production==<br /> <br /> As an early marketing campaign, the game's website included the feature &quot;Operation Transmission Recovery&quot;: using transmission and coordinate dials, you could pick up &quot;transmissions&quot; from Cybertron (or &quot;video clips&quot; to you and me). <br /> <br /> The art and design team did intense research (i.e. watched the original cartoon, looked at comics, and watched &quot;typical sci-fi cool stuff&quot; like ''Blade Runner'') to work out the aesthetic of Cybertron; lead artist [[Ivan Power]] remarked that the original cartoon was the main inspiration, and that Cybertron wasn't shown there so they had to rewatch the same few clips &quot;over and over&quot;. While many of the city designs are elaborate and shiny, Decepticon [[Kaon]] was deliberately designed to be sharp-edged, rusting, and slapped together to show the Decepticons weren't interested in building a functioning society. &lt;ref&gt;[http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/21/transformers-art-video.aspx Game Informer: Behind the Art of War for Cybertron]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Operation Transmission Recovery==<br /> <br /> As an early marketing campaign, the game's website included the feature &quot;Operation Transmission Recovery&quot;: using transmission and coordinate dials, you could pick up &quot;transmissions&quot; from Cybertron (or &quot;video clips/images&quot; to you and me).<br /> <br /> There are two dials, blue (outer) and yellow (inner). Using your mouse, you can drag the dial to set coordinates. The blue dial is set by aligning it to marks on the outer circle. When aligned, it becomes a blue ring. After that, the yellow dial is set so that signal strength is full, as indicated by a meter on the right. Once a transmission is unlocked its symbol lights up and the &quot;Total Recovered&quot; amount increases a little bit. When you reach 100%, it tells you how many hours remain until next batch. <br /> <br /> As of January 12, 2010, the following transmissions (Batch 9), almost all of which are part of the second trailer (link below), were available:<br /> <br /> {| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5<br /> | '''S. No.'''<br /> | '''Blue''' <br /> | '''Yellow'''<br /> | '''Type'''<br /> | '''Description'''<br /> |- <br /> | 1<br /> | 351<br /> | 327<br /> | Video<br /> | Game Trailer (unlocked by default).<br /> |-<br /> | 2<br /> | 018<br /> | 088<br /> | Video<br /> | Starscream flying.<br /> |-<br /> | 3<br /> | 018<br /> | 088<br /> | Image<br /> | Starscream standing.<br /> |-<br /> | 4<br /> | 029<br /> | 209<br /> | Video<br /> | Battle scene: Camera behind Autobots, Optimus is prominent.<br /> |-<br /> | 5<br /> | 040<br /> | 328<br /> | Image<br /> | Holographic map of Cybertron and its two moons.<br /> |-<br /> | 6<br /> | 051<br /> | 110<br /> | Image<br /> | Cybertron .<br /> |-<br /> | 7<br /> | 073<br /> | 190<br /> | Image<br /> | Optimus vs an average Decepticon.<br /> |-<br /> | 8<br /> | 085<br /> | 298<br /> | Video<br /> | Decepticon insignia (on Starscream).<br /> |-<br /> | 9<br /> | 096 <br /> | 347<br /> | Video<br /> | A bomb explosion on Cybertron's surface (possibly the same one which made a huge hole in it).<br /> |-<br /> | 10<br /> | 107<br /> | 035<br /> | Image<br /> | Megatron crushes cranial unit of a poor Autobot, Starscream is visible behind him, just before the ground assault.<br /> |-<br /> | 11<br /> | 120<br /> | 040<br /> | Image<br /> | Cybertron as seen from a moon.<br /> |-<br /> | 12<br /> | 140<br /> | 201<br /> | Image<br /> | Starscream flying towards Cybertron .<br /> |-<br /> | 13<br /> | 162<br /> | 359<br /> | Image<br /> | A red robot (Ironhide?).<br /> |-<br /> | 14<br /> | 173<br /> | 003<br /> | Image<br /> | A hall (Council of Autobot Elders?).<br /> |-<br /> | 15<br /> | 192<br /> | 147<br /> | Video<br /> | Injured Autobot, trying to get up .<br /> |-<br /> | 16<br /> | 203<br /> | 094<br /> | Video<br /> | Battle scene: Trypticon joins the battle as a burning asteroid (Entry mode) behind Decepticons and Autobots run towards it.<br /> |-<br /> | 17<br /> | 214<br /> | 004<br /> | Image<br /> | A city seen from a tunnel .<br /> |-<br /> | 18<br /> | 225<br /> | 199<br /> | Image<br /> | A city tower falling and hitting another tower.<br /> |-<br /> | 19<br /> | 265<br /> | 011<br /> | Image<br /> | Optimus Prime.<br /> |-<br /> | 20<br /> | 284<br /> | 021<br /> | Image<br /> | Megatron firing his gun (at YOU).<br /> |-<br /> | 21<br /> | 295<br /> | 249<br /> | Video<br /> | Optimus uses his axe on a Decepticon.<br /> |-<br /> | 22<br /> | 306<br /> | 041<br /> | Image<br /> | Cybertron as seen from another moon.<br /> |-<br /> | 23<br /> | 317<br /> | 081<br /> | Video<br /> | City skyline, camera moving down, some music in the background (start of the second trailer).<br /> |-<br /> | 24<br /> | 328<br /> | 221<br /> | Video<br /> | Battle scene: A missile hits a battlestation and an Autobot falls down from it.<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Toy tie-ins==<br /> [[Hasbro]] has confirmed that several toys will be made to tie into the promotion of the video game. These include figures of Optimus Prime, Megatron, and Bumblebee. At [[Toy Fair 2010]], they were confirmed to be part of the [[Generations (toyline)|''Generations'' toyline]].<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:WFC Optimus Prime toy.jpg<br /> Image:WFC Megatron toy.jpg<br /> Image:WFC Bumblebee toy.jpg<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Comic adaptation==<br /> <br /> [[IDW Publishing]] are bringing out a comic based on the game. News of this first got leaked when [[Australia|Australian]] website JB Hi-Fi offered a ''free'' copy of issue 1 if you pre-ordered the game from them. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/game/ps3/transformers-war-for-cybertron-bonus-comic-book/513755 TRANSFORMERS: WAR FOR CYBERTRON (Bonus Comic Book)]&lt;/ref&gt; The artist to the cover is revealed to be [[Marcelo Matere]], who updated his DeviantArt gallery with the inked version, &lt;ref&gt;[http://mmatere.deviantart.com/art/War-of-Cybertron-Cover-inks-165279485 Inks-only comic cover at Marcelo's DA gallery]&lt;/ref&gt; with [[Priscilla Tramontano]] as colorist. &lt;ref&gt;[http://noprips.deviantart.com/art/War-of-Cybertron-Cover-165344432 Colored cover at Priscilla's DA gallery]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://www.transformersgame.com/ Official site]<br /> *[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-debut-transformers-war/59860 Exclusive trailer via 'Game Trailers TV']<br /> *[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-gameplay-transformers-war/62343 Exclusive gameplay trailer via 'Game Trailers TV']<br /> *[http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/54929/transformers-war-for-cybertron/videos/transformerscyber_trl_revealtrailer_10710.html;jsessionid=8yroitu115mw Second, fuller trailer from IGN]<br /> *[http://gameinformer.com/mag/cybertron.aspx Behind the scenes bios and information from ''Game Informer'' magazine.]<br /> *[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gdc-10-transformers-war/62925 Civil War Story Interview at 'Game Trailers TV']<br /> *[http://www.allspark.com/content/view/6450/20/ Press release]<br /> <br /> [[Category: Video games]]</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* Characters */</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Transformerswarforcybertron.jpg|center|500px|]]<br /> <br /> '''''Transformers: War for Cybertron''''' is a video game developed by [[High Moon Studios]] and published by [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]], set before the Transformers take their war to [[Earth]]. [[Hasbro]] intends it to act as a foundation for ''[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]'' franchise storylines for years to come, and so they've been giving a lot of input and stressing character development.&lt;ref name=&quot;tfw2005&quot;&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/tfw2005-war-for-cybertron-interview-with-aaron-archer-and-matt-tieger-168910/ War for Cybertron interview with Aaron Archer and Matt Tieger @ TFW2005.com]&lt;/ref&gt; The upcoming book ''[[Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron]]'' will be a tie-in to the game and its fiction, as will the cartoon series ''[[Transformers: Prime]]''.{{fact}}<br /> <br /> Unlike previous ''Transformers'' video games which feature distinctly separate campaigns for the Autobots and the Decepticons (traditionally depicting the playable faction utterly defeating the other), ''War for Cybertron'' will feature a single, linear storyline; the Decepticon campaign occurs chronologically before the Autobot campaign, but [[Fandom|fans]] can play through them in whichever order they prefer.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.seibertron.com/news/index.php?f_keyword=war+for+cybertron Seibertron Q&amp;A with Activision]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> The game itself will be an over-the-shoulder third-person shooter in which the player can choose his character from a small roster of either Autobots or Decepticons. The game will be released on [[June 22]], [[2010]], for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, Nintendo Wii (as ''[[Transformers: Cybertron Adventures]]''), Nintendo DS and personal computers. <br /> {{quote|One shall stand.|Optimus}}<br /> :{{quote|One shall fall.|Megatron}}<br /> <br /> ==Synopsis==<br /> <br /> [[Image:WarforCybertron-OptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|400px|Prime auditions for Unreal Tournament. There were no survivors.]]<br /> <br /> The game is set during the waning days of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] before coming to Earth. [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], genuinely believing a caste system will bring Cybertron back to its [[Golden Age]], is researching a dangerous power source known as [[Dark Energon]] to fuel his conquest of the planet. [[Optimus Prime (G1)|A guy called Optimus]] assumes temporary command following an attack on [[Iacon]] that killed [[Zeta Prime]], but he is not yet leader of the Autobots and doesn't really want to be in charge either. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ TFW2005 visits High Moon Studios]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> [[Starscream]] joins the Decepticons as second-in-command, but does not consider either Optimus or Megatron to have the planet's best interests at heart. (We will apparently learn ''why'' Starscream is such a whopping traitor and why Megatron [[:Image:Infiltration6_takeyourpunishment.jpg|doesn't just]] [[:Image:Swordscream.JPG|kill him]]).<br /> <br /> ==Characters==<br /> At the start of each level, the player can choose from one of three characters. Characters belong to one of four distinct classes: <br /> <br /> * '''Leaders:''' Vehicle forms are trucks. Support their team with buffs and debuff the enemy team.<br /> * '''Soldiers:''' Vehicle forms are tanks. Have heavy-hitting ranged and melee weaponry.<br /> * '''Scientists:''' Vehicle forms are jets. Use a variety of tricky technology and precise long-distance weaponry to heal their allies and control the battlefield from a distance.<br /> * '''Scouts:''' Vehicle forms are cars. Specialize in evasion and high-speed combat, along with disabling functions like EMP grenades.<br /> <br /> The characters available will shift from level to level. <br /> <br /> Known playable characters include:<br /> <br /> '''Autobots'''<br /> *[[Optimus_Prime_(G1)#War_for_Cybertron_video_game|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]]) ([http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/11/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-optimus-prime.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])<br /> *[[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] ([[Johnny Yong Bosch]]) &lt;ref&gt;[http://twitter.com/johnnyyongbosch/status/11686292590 Twitter post by Johnny Yong Bosch confirming his role as Bumblebee.]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *[[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]<br /> *[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]<br /> *[[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]]<br /> *[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]<br /> *[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]<br /> *[[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] *[[Warpath]] (G1) *Grimlock (G1) |Grimlock]]<br /> *[[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] (Best Buy preorder exclusive) &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;jsessionid=0BAF66FE711A7E74FCE4428DB954168C.bbolsp-app04-47?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&amp;_dynSessConf=4725946217004960156&amp;id=pcat17071&amp;type=page&amp;st=Transformers+War+for+Cybertron&amp;sc=Global&amp;cp=1&amp;nrp=15&amp;sp=&amp;qp=&amp;list=n&amp;iht=y&amp;usc=All+Categories&amp;ks=960 Bestbuy.com preorder page featuring a special Jazz trailer]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> '''Decepticons'''<br /> *[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/18/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-megatron.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])<br /> *[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/23/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-starscream.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])<br /> *[[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]<br /> *[[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]]<br /> *[[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]<br /> *[[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]]<br /> *[[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] <br /> *[[Barricade (G1)|Barricade]]<br /> *[[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] (Gamestop preorder Multiplayer exclusive)<br /> *[[Demolishor (WFC)|Demolishor]] (Amazon.com preorder Multiplayer exclusive &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-War-Cybertron-Playstation-3/dp/B0030HM2WO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=videogames&amp;qid=1270579997&amp;sr=8-1 Amazon.com preorder page featuring a special Demolishor trailer]&lt;/ref&gt;, Play.com exclusive in UK)<br /> <br /> The Decepticon campaign includes a boss battle with [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] and the Autobot campaign includes defending [[Iacon]]. [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] appears in the IGN trailer, but he's, uh, probably not playable. Players should expect references to Cybertron locations taken from all previous Transformer stories, &quot;things which may have only been referenced once, in one comic way back when, could be used and expanded upon.&quot;&lt;ref name=&quot;tfw2005&quot;/&gt;<br /> <br /> ...They're totally reading the Wiki, aren't they? Hello, designers!<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-Bumblebee.jpg|Bumblebee fires his weapon.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-RatchetBumblebeePrime.jpg|Ratchet, Bumblebee, and Prime in battle.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-OmegaSupreme.jpg|Omega Supreme attacks a platoon of Decepticons.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-StarscreamMegatron.jpg|Starscream and Megatron get ready for the ground assault.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-StarscreamMegatronSoundwave.jpg|More Decepticons!<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-Soundwave.jpg|Soundwave sneaks around.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-Trypticon.jpg|Oh Primus.<br /> Image:War for Cybertron Shockwave.jpg|Resistance really does seem to be futile. <br /> Image:WfC-Kutaku-Grimlock.jpg|Dynobot?<br /> Image: DemolishorWar for Cyb.jpg<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Features==<br /> * Campaigns will be co-op online for the first time in a Transformers game.<br /> * All playable characters have two special abilities, such as absorbing health from enemies or marking targets.<br /> * The game will run on the Unreal engine.<br /> * High Moon is prepared to &quot;support the game after release,&quot; meaning either patches or downloadable content.<br /> * Online Multiplayer is being developed for the game.<br /> * All environments, including cover, can be destroyed.<br /> * Characters transform at any time with an easy and quick tap of the Left Analog stick. There is no &quot;cool down&quot; so players can transform as often and as freely as they wish.<br /> * The ability to create your own Transformers character for multiplayer. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.3news.co.nz/Transformers-War-for-Cybertron-trailer/tabid/418/articleID/144347/Default.aspx War For Cybertron trailer news at 3news.co.nz]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Production==<br /> <br /> As an early marketing campaign, the game's website included the feature &quot;Operation Transmission Recovery&quot;: using transmission and coordinate dials, you could pick up &quot;transmissions&quot; from Cybertron (or &quot;video clips&quot; to you and me). <br /> <br /> The art and design team did intense research (i.e. watched the original cartoon, looked at comics, and watched &quot;typical sci-fi cool stuff&quot; like ''Blade Runner'') to work out the aesthetic of Cybertron; lead artist [[Ivan Power]] remarked that the original cartoon was the main inspiration, and that Cybertron wasn't shown there so they had to rewatch the same few clips &quot;over and over&quot;. While many of the city designs are elaborate and shiny, Decepticon [[Kaon]] was deliberately designed to be sharp-edged, rusting, and slapped together to show the Decepticons weren't interested in building a functioning society. &lt;ref&gt;[http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/21/transformers-art-video.aspx Game Informer: Behind the Art of War for Cybertron]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Operation Transmission Recovery==<br /> <br /> As an early marketing campaign, the game's website included the feature &quot;Operation Transmission Recovery&quot;: using transmission and coordinate dials, you could pick up &quot;transmissions&quot; from Cybertron (or &quot;video clips/images&quot; to you and me).<br /> <br /> There are two dials, blue (outer) and yellow (inner). Using your mouse, you can drag the dial to set coordinates. The blue dial is set by aligning it to marks on the outer circle. When aligned, it becomes a blue ring. After that, the yellow dial is set so that signal strength is full, as indicated by a meter on the right. Once a transmission is unlocked its symbol lights up and the &quot;Total Recovered&quot; amount increases a little bit. When you reach 100%, it tells you how many hours remain until next batch. <br /> <br /> As of January 12, 2010, the following transmissions (Batch 9), almost all of which are part of the second trailer (link below), were available:<br /> <br /> {| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5<br /> | '''S. No.'''<br /> | '''Blue''' <br /> | '''Yellow'''<br /> | '''Type'''<br /> | '''Description'''<br /> |- <br /> | 1<br /> | 351<br /> | 327<br /> | Video<br /> | Game Trailer (unlocked by default).<br /> |-<br /> | 2<br /> | 018<br /> | 088<br /> | Video<br /> | Starscream flying.<br /> |-<br /> | 3<br /> | 018<br /> | 088<br /> | Image<br /> | Starscream standing.<br /> |-<br /> | 4<br /> | 029<br /> | 209<br /> | Video<br /> | Battle scene: Camera behind Autobots, Optimus is prominent.<br /> |-<br /> | 5<br /> | 040<br /> | 328<br /> | Image<br /> | Holographic map of Cybertron and its two moons.<br /> |-<br /> | 6<br /> | 051<br /> | 110<br /> | Image<br /> | Cybertron .<br /> |-<br /> | 7<br /> | 073<br /> | 190<br /> | Image<br /> | Optimus vs an average Decepticon.<br /> |-<br /> | 8<br /> | 085<br /> | 298<br /> | Video<br /> | Decepticon insignia (on Starscream).<br /> |-<br /> | 9<br /> | 096 <br /> | 347<br /> | Video<br /> | A bomb explosion on Cybertron's surface (possibly the same one which made a huge hole in it).<br /> |-<br /> | 10<br /> | 107<br /> | 035<br /> | Image<br /> | Megatron crushes cranial unit of a poor Autobot, Starscream is visible behind him, just before the ground assault.<br /> |-<br /> | 11<br /> | 120<br /> | 040<br /> | Image<br /> | Cybertron as seen from a moon.<br /> |-<br /> | 12<br /> | 140<br /> | 201<br /> | Image<br /> | Starscream flying towards Cybertron .<br /> |-<br /> | 13<br /> | 162<br /> | 359<br /> | Image<br /> | A red robot (Ironhide?).<br /> |-<br /> | 14<br /> | 173<br /> | 003<br /> | Image<br /> | A hall (Council of Autobot Elders?).<br /> |-<br /> | 15<br /> | 192<br /> | 147<br /> | Video<br /> | Injured Autobot, trying to get up .<br /> |-<br /> | 16<br /> | 203<br /> | 094<br /> | Video<br /> | Battle scene: Trypticon joins the battle as a burning asteroid (Entry mode) behind Decepticons and Autobots run towards it.<br /> |-<br /> | 17<br /> | 214<br /> | 004<br /> | Image<br /> | A city seen from a tunnel .<br /> |-<br /> | 18<br /> | 225<br /> | 199<br /> | Image<br /> | A city tower falling and hitting another tower.<br /> |-<br /> | 19<br /> | 265<br /> | 011<br /> | Image<br /> | Optimus Prime.<br /> |-<br /> | 20<br /> | 284<br /> | 021<br /> | Image<br /> | Megatron firing his gun (at YOU).<br /> |-<br /> | 21<br /> | 295<br /> | 249<br /> | Video<br /> | Optimus uses his axe on a Decepticon.<br /> |-<br /> | 22<br /> | 306<br /> | 041<br /> | Image<br /> | Cybertron as seen from another moon.<br /> |-<br /> | 23<br /> | 317<br /> | 081<br /> | Video<br /> | City skyline, camera moving down, some music in the background (start of the second trailer).<br /> |-<br /> | 24<br /> | 328<br /> | 221<br /> | Video<br /> | Battle scene: A missile hits a battlestation and an Autobot falls down from it.<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Toy tie-ins==<br /> [[Hasbro]] has confirmed that several toys will be made to tie into the promotion of the video game. These include figures of Optimus Prime, Megatron, and Bumblebee. At [[Toy Fair 2010]], they were confirmed to be part of the [[Generations (toyline)|''Generations'' toyline]].<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:WFC Optimus Prime toy.jpg<br /> Image:WFC Megatron toy.jpg<br /> Image:WFC Bumblebee toy.jpg<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Comic adaptation==<br /> <br /> [[IDW Publishing]] are bringing out a comic based on the game. News of this first got leaked when [[Australia|Australian]] website JB Hi-Fi offered a ''free'' copy of issue 1 if you pre-ordered the game from them. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/game/ps3/transformers-war-for-cybertron-bonus-comic-book/513755 TRANSFORMERS: WAR FOR CYBERTRON (Bonus Comic Book)]&lt;/ref&gt; The artist to the cover is revealed to be [[Marcelo Matere]], who updated his DeviantArt gallery with the inked version, &lt;ref&gt;[http://mmatere.deviantart.com/art/War-of-Cybertron-Cover-inks-165279485 Inks-only comic cover at Marcelo's DA gallery]&lt;/ref&gt; with [[Priscilla Tramontano]] as colorist. &lt;ref&gt;[http://noprips.deviantart.com/art/War-of-Cybertron-Cover-165344432 Colored cover at Priscilla's DA gallery]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://www.transformersgame.com/ Official site]<br /> *[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-debut-transformers-war/59860 Exclusive trailer via 'Game Trailers TV']<br /> *[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-gameplay-transformers-war/62343 Exclusive gameplay trailer via 'Game Trailers TV']<br /> *[http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/54929/transformers-war-for-cybertron/videos/transformerscyber_trl_revealtrailer_10710.html;jsessionid=8yroitu115mw Second, fuller trailer from IGN]<br /> *[http://gameinformer.com/mag/cybertron.aspx Behind the scenes bios and information from ''Game Informer'' magazine.]<br /> *[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gdc-10-transformers-war/62925 Civil War Story Interview at 'Game Trailers TV']<br /> *[http://www.allspark.com/content/view/6450/20/ Press release]<br /> <br /> [[Category: Video games]]</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* Characters */</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Transformerswarforcybertron.jpg|center|500px|]]<br /> <br /> '''''Transformers: War for Cybertron''''' is a video game developed by [[High Moon Studios]] and published by [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]], set before the Transformers take their war to [[Earth]]. [[Hasbro]] intends it to act as a foundation for ''[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]'' franchise storylines for years to come, and so they've been giving a lot of input and stressing character development.&lt;ref name=&quot;tfw2005&quot;&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/tfw2005-war-for-cybertron-interview-with-aaron-archer-and-matt-tieger-168910/ War for Cybertron interview with Aaron Archer and Matt Tieger @ TFW2005.com]&lt;/ref&gt; The upcoming book ''[[Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron]]'' will be a tie-in to the game and its fiction, as will the cartoon series ''[[Transformers: Prime]]''.{{fact}}<br /> <br /> Unlike previous ''Transformers'' video games which feature distinctly separate campaigns for the Autobots and the Decepticons (traditionally depicting the playable faction utterly defeating the other), ''War for Cybertron'' will feature a single, linear storyline; the Decepticon campaign occurs chronologically before the Autobot campaign, but [[Fandom|fans]] can play through them in whichever order they prefer.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.seibertron.com/news/index.php?f_keyword=war+for+cybertron Seibertron Q&amp;A with Activision]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> The game itself will be an over-the-shoulder third-person shooter in which the player can choose his character from a small roster of either Autobots or Decepticons. The game will be released on [[June 22]], [[2010]], for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, Nintendo Wii (as ''[[Transformers: Cybertron Adventures]]''), Nintendo DS and personal computers. <br /> {{quote|One shall stand.|Optimus}}<br /> :{{quote|One shall fall.|Megatron}}<br /> <br /> ==Synopsis==<br /> <br /> [[Image:WarforCybertron-OptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|400px|Prime auditions for Unreal Tournament. There were no survivors.]]<br /> <br /> The game is set during the waning days of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] before coming to Earth. [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], genuinely believing a caste system will bring Cybertron back to its [[Golden Age]], is researching a dangerous power source known as [[Dark Energon]] to fuel his conquest of the planet. [[Optimus Prime (G1)|A guy called Optimus]] assumes temporary command following an attack on [[Iacon]] that killed [[Zeta Prime]], but he is not yet leader of the Autobots and doesn't really want to be in charge either. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ TFW2005 visits High Moon Studios]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> [[Starscream]] joins the Decepticons as second-in-command, but does not consider either Optimus or Megatron to have the planet's best interests at heart. (We will apparently learn ''why'' Starscream is such a whopping traitor and why Megatron [[:Image:Infiltration6_takeyourpunishment.jpg|doesn't just]] [[:Image:Swordscream.JPG|kill him]]).<br /> <br /> ==Characters==<br /> At the start of each level, the player can choose from one of three characters. Characters belong to one of four distinct classes: <br /> <br /> * '''Leaders:''' Vehicle forms are trucks. Support their team with buffs and debuff the enemy team.<br /> * '''Soldiers:''' Vehicle forms are tanks. Have heavy-hitting ranged and melee weaponry.<br /> * '''Scientists:''' Vehicle forms are jets. Use a variety of tricky technology and precise long-distance weaponry to heal their allies and control the battlefield from a distance.<br /> * '''Scouts:''' Vehicle forms are cars. Specialize in evasion and high-speed combat, along with disabling functions like EMP grenades.<br /> <br /> The characters available will shift from level to level. <br /> <br /> Known playable characters include:<br /> <br /> '''Autobots'''<br /> *[[Optimus_Prime_(G1)#War_for_Cybertron_video_game|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]]) ([http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/11/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-optimus-prime.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])<br /> *[[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] ([[Johnny Yong Bosch]]) &lt;ref&gt;[http://twitter.com/johnnyyongbosch/status/11686292590 Twitter post by Johnny Yong Bosch confirming his role as Bumblebee.]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *[[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]<br /> *[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]<br /> *[[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]]<br /> *[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]<br /> *[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]<br /> *[[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] *[[Warpath]] *Grimlock (G1) |Grimlock]]<br /> *[[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] (Best Buy preorder exclusive) &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;jsessionid=0BAF66FE711A7E74FCE4428DB954168C.bbolsp-app04-47?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&amp;_dynSessConf=4725946217004960156&amp;id=pcat17071&amp;type=page&amp;st=Transformers+War+for+Cybertron&amp;sc=Global&amp;cp=1&amp;nrp=15&amp;sp=&amp;qp=&amp;list=n&amp;iht=y&amp;usc=All+Categories&amp;ks=960 Bestbuy.com preorder page featuring a special Jazz trailer]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> '''Decepticons'''<br /> *[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/18/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-megatron.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])<br /> *[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/23/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-starscream.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])<br /> *[[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]<br /> *[[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]]<br /> *[[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]<br /> *[[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]]<br /> *[[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] <br /> *[[Barricade (G1)|Barricade]]<br /> *[[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] (Gamestop preorder Multiplayer exclusive)<br /> *[[Demolishor (WFC)|Demolishor]] (Amazon.com preorder Multiplayer exclusive &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-War-Cybertron-Playstation-3/dp/B0030HM2WO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=videogames&amp;qid=1270579997&amp;sr=8-1 Amazon.com preorder page featuring a special Demolishor trailer]&lt;/ref&gt;, Play.com exclusive in UK)<br /> <br /> The Decepticon campaign includes a boss battle with [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] and the Autobot campaign includes defending [[Iacon]]. [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] appears in the IGN trailer, but he's, uh, probably not playable. Players should expect references to Cybertron locations taken from all previous Transformer stories, &quot;things which may have only been referenced once, in one comic way back when, could be used and expanded upon.&quot;&lt;ref name=&quot;tfw2005&quot;/&gt;<br /> <br /> ...They're totally reading the Wiki, aren't they? Hello, designers!<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-Bumblebee.jpg|Bumblebee fires his weapon.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-RatchetBumblebeePrime.jpg|Ratchet, Bumblebee, and Prime in battle.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-OmegaSupreme.jpg|Omega Supreme attacks a platoon of Decepticons.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-StarscreamMegatron.jpg|Starscream and Megatron get ready for the ground assault.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-StarscreamMegatronSoundwave.jpg|More Decepticons!<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-Soundwave.jpg|Soundwave sneaks around.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-Trypticon.jpg|Oh Primus.<br /> Image:War for Cybertron Shockwave.jpg|Resistance really does seem to be futile. <br /> Image:WfC-Kutaku-Grimlock.jpg|Dynobot?<br /> Image: DemolishorWar for Cyb.jpg<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Features==<br /> * Campaigns will be co-op online for the first time in a Transformers game.<br /> * All playable characters have two special abilities, such as absorbing health from enemies or marking targets.<br /> * The game will run on the Unreal engine.<br /> * High Moon is prepared to &quot;support the game after release,&quot; meaning either patches or downloadable content.<br /> * Online Multiplayer is being developed for the game.<br /> * All environments, including cover, can be destroyed.<br /> * Characters transform at any time with an easy and quick tap of the Left Analog stick. There is no &quot;cool down&quot; so players can transform as often and as freely as they wish.<br /> * The ability to create your own Transformers character for multiplayer. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.3news.co.nz/Transformers-War-for-Cybertron-trailer/tabid/418/articleID/144347/Default.aspx War For Cybertron trailer news at 3news.co.nz]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Production==<br /> <br /> As an early marketing campaign, the game's website included the feature &quot;Operation Transmission Recovery&quot;: using transmission and coordinate dials, you could pick up &quot;transmissions&quot; from Cybertron (or &quot;video clips&quot; to you and me). <br /> <br /> The art and design team did intense research (i.e. watched the original cartoon, looked at comics, and watched &quot;typical sci-fi cool stuff&quot; like ''Blade Runner'') to work out the aesthetic of Cybertron; lead artist [[Ivan Power]] remarked that the original cartoon was the main inspiration, and that Cybertron wasn't shown there so they had to rewatch the same few clips &quot;over and over&quot;. While many of the city designs are elaborate and shiny, Decepticon [[Kaon]] was deliberately designed to be sharp-edged, rusting, and slapped together to show the Decepticons weren't interested in building a functioning society. &lt;ref&gt;[http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/21/transformers-art-video.aspx Game Informer: Behind the Art of War for Cybertron]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Operation Transmission Recovery==<br /> <br /> As an early marketing campaign, the game's website included the feature &quot;Operation Transmission Recovery&quot;: using transmission and coordinate dials, you could pick up &quot;transmissions&quot; from Cybertron (or &quot;video clips/images&quot; to you and me).<br /> <br /> There are two dials, blue (outer) and yellow (inner). Using your mouse, you can drag the dial to set coordinates. The blue dial is set by aligning it to marks on the outer circle. When aligned, it becomes a blue ring. After that, the yellow dial is set so that signal strength is full, as indicated by a meter on the right. Once a transmission is unlocked its symbol lights up and the &quot;Total Recovered&quot; amount increases a little bit. When you reach 100%, it tells you how many hours remain until next batch. <br /> <br /> As of January 12, 2010, the following transmissions (Batch 9), almost all of which are part of the second trailer (link below), were available:<br /> <br /> {| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5<br /> | '''S. No.'''<br /> | '''Blue''' <br /> | '''Yellow'''<br /> | '''Type'''<br /> | '''Description'''<br /> |- <br /> | 1<br /> | 351<br /> | 327<br /> | Video<br /> | Game Trailer (unlocked by default).<br /> |-<br /> | 2<br /> | 018<br /> | 088<br /> | Video<br /> | Starscream flying.<br /> |-<br /> | 3<br /> | 018<br /> | 088<br /> | Image<br /> | Starscream standing.<br /> |-<br /> | 4<br /> | 029<br /> | 209<br /> | Video<br /> | Battle scene: Camera behind Autobots, Optimus is prominent.<br /> |-<br /> | 5<br /> | 040<br /> | 328<br /> | Image<br /> | Holographic map of Cybertron and its two moons.<br /> |-<br /> | 6<br /> | 051<br /> | 110<br /> | Image<br /> | Cybertron .<br /> |-<br /> | 7<br /> | 073<br /> | 190<br /> | Image<br /> | Optimus vs an average Decepticon.<br /> |-<br /> | 8<br /> | 085<br /> | 298<br /> | Video<br /> | Decepticon insignia (on Starscream).<br /> |-<br /> | 9<br /> | 096 <br /> | 347<br /> | Video<br /> | A bomb explosion on Cybertron's surface (possibly the same one which made a huge hole in it).<br /> |-<br /> | 10<br /> | 107<br /> | 035<br /> | Image<br /> | Megatron crushes cranial unit of a poor Autobot, Starscream is visible behind him, just before the ground assault.<br /> |-<br /> | 11<br /> | 120<br /> | 040<br /> | Image<br /> | Cybertron as seen from a moon.<br /> |-<br /> | 12<br /> | 140<br /> | 201<br /> | Image<br /> | Starscream flying towards Cybertron .<br /> |-<br /> | 13<br /> | 162<br /> | 359<br /> | Image<br /> | A red robot (Ironhide?).<br /> |-<br /> | 14<br /> | 173<br /> | 003<br /> | Image<br /> | A hall (Council of Autobot Elders?).<br /> |-<br /> | 15<br /> | 192<br /> | 147<br /> | Video<br /> | Injured Autobot, trying to get up .<br /> |-<br /> | 16<br /> | 203<br /> | 094<br /> | Video<br /> | Battle scene: Trypticon joins the battle as a burning asteroid (Entry mode) behind Decepticons and Autobots run towards it.<br /> |-<br /> | 17<br /> | 214<br /> | 004<br /> | Image<br /> | A city seen from a tunnel .<br /> |-<br /> | 18<br /> | 225<br /> | 199<br /> | Image<br /> | A city tower falling and hitting another tower.<br /> |-<br /> | 19<br /> | 265<br /> | 011<br /> | Image<br /> | Optimus Prime.<br /> |-<br /> | 20<br /> | 284<br /> | 021<br /> | Image<br /> | Megatron firing his gun (at YOU).<br /> |-<br /> | 21<br /> | 295<br /> | 249<br /> | Video<br /> | Optimus uses his axe on a Decepticon.<br /> |-<br /> | 22<br /> | 306<br /> | 041<br /> | Image<br /> | Cybertron as seen from another moon.<br /> |-<br /> | 23<br /> | 317<br /> | 081<br /> | Video<br /> | City skyline, camera moving down, some music in the background (start of the second trailer).<br /> |-<br /> | 24<br /> | 328<br /> | 221<br /> | Video<br /> | Battle scene: A missile hits a battlestation and an Autobot falls down from it.<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Toy tie-ins==<br /> [[Hasbro]] has confirmed that several toys will be made to tie into the promotion of the video game. These include figures of Optimus Prime, Megatron, and Bumblebee. At [[Toy Fair 2010]], they were confirmed to be part of the [[Generations (toyline)|''Generations'' toyline]].<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:WFC Optimus Prime toy.jpg<br /> Image:WFC Megatron toy.jpg<br /> Image:WFC Bumblebee toy.jpg<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Comic adaptation==<br /> <br /> [[IDW Publishing]] are bringing out a comic based on the game. News of this first got leaked when [[Australia|Australian]] website JB Hi-Fi offered a ''free'' copy of issue 1 if you pre-ordered the game from them. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/game/ps3/transformers-war-for-cybertron-bonus-comic-book/513755 TRANSFORMERS: WAR FOR CYBERTRON (Bonus Comic Book)]&lt;/ref&gt; The artist to the cover is revealed to be [[Marcelo Matere]], who updated his DeviantArt gallery with the inked version, &lt;ref&gt;[http://mmatere.deviantart.com/art/War-of-Cybertron-Cover-inks-165279485 Inks-only comic cover at Marcelo's DA gallery]&lt;/ref&gt; with [[Priscilla Tramontano]] as colorist. &lt;ref&gt;[http://noprips.deviantart.com/art/War-of-Cybertron-Cover-165344432 Colored cover at Priscilla's DA gallery]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://www.transformersgame.com/ Official site]<br /> *[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-debut-transformers-war/59860 Exclusive trailer via 'Game Trailers TV']<br /> *[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-gameplay-transformers-war/62343 Exclusive gameplay trailer via 'Game Trailers TV']<br /> *[http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/54929/transformers-war-for-cybertron/videos/transformerscyber_trl_revealtrailer_10710.html;jsessionid=8yroitu115mw Second, fuller trailer from IGN]<br /> *[http://gameinformer.com/mag/cybertron.aspx Behind the scenes bios and information from ''Game Informer'' magazine.]<br /> *[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gdc-10-transformers-war/62925 Civil War Story Interview at 'Game Trailers TV']<br /> *[http://www.allspark.com/content/view/6450/20/ Press release]<br /> <br /> [[Category: Video games]]</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* New characters */</p> <hr /> <div>Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> :There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?<br /> :Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say &quot;assumption&quot; isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)<br /> :::The TFW2005 interview states it's &quot;not connected to any particular generation&quot; and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)<br /> ::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::::::How about &quot;WFC&quot;? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> :::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using &quot;WFC&quot; to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)<br /> :::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview &quot;Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe.&quot; The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying &quot;Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not,&quot; or vice-versa &quot;anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?&quot; A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. &quot;Its prehistory is very slightly different&quot; will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than &quot;influenced by it&quot; I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> <br /> == The New trailer ==<br /> <br /> should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> <br /> == Logos ==<br /> <br /> I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Starscream? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the &quot;Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault&quot; picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010<br /> Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]<br /> ::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::: I'd say more &quot;Classics-ized&quot; versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Fresh trailer guys ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage<br /> <br /> Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...<br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Third link in &quot;external links&quot; at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Character Sources?==<br /> I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> : For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Release date==<br /> Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Motormaster ==<br /> <br /> Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version: <br /> http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg<br /> <br /> Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game. <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html<br /> : I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Interview and more gameplay and footage ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story<br /> <br /> Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.<br /> <br /> -Aaron Archer<br /> <br /> -It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.<br /> <br /> -Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?<br /> <br /> -And much more...<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> <br /> == No PSP option... ==<br /> <br /> Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I think its a &quot;revised&quot;<br /> backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Voice actor thing ==<br /> <br /> I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending &quot;false&quot; information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.<br /> :So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with &quot;AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego&quot; and &quot;Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]&quot;. Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not &quot;We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia.&quot; --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with &quot;idiots&quot; over &quot;cover-up&quot;. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == New Characters' pages? ==<br /> VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?<br /> : We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)<br /> <br /> VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> <br /> :The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out &quot;Oops, they're part of G1&quot; and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> :I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jazz? ==<br /> <br /> The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave<br /> <br /> == Image Captions/Quotes ==<br /> <br /> So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?<br /> <br /> And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.<br /> <br /> ''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''<br /> <br /> Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved<br /> <br /> [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)<br /> :By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same &quot;gritty dark&quot; feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: &quot;Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little.&quot; Omega Supreme's picture: &quot;Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off.&quot; Megatron: &quot;I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered.&quot; Bumblebee: &quot;Little people first!&quot;<br /> <br /> == New characters ==<br /> <br /> Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the &quot;embargo&quot; pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream_%28WFC%29|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[unregistered:user]]<br /> <br /> == So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==<br /> <br /> [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&amp;postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::&quot;Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS...&quot; So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* New characters */</p> <hr /> <div>Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> :There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?<br /> :Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say &quot;assumption&quot; isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)<br /> :::The TFW2005 interview states it's &quot;not connected to any particular generation&quot; and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)<br /> ::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> :::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)<br /> ::::::How about &quot;WFC&quot;? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> :::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using &quot;WFC&quot; to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)<br /> :::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview &quot;Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe.&quot; The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying &quot;Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not,&quot; or vice-versa &quot;anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?&quot; A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. &quot;Its prehistory is very slightly different&quot; will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than &quot;influenced by it&quot; I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]<br /> <br /> == The New trailer ==<br /> <br /> should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]<br /> <br /> == Logos ==<br /> <br /> I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Starscream? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the &quot;Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault&quot; picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010<br /> Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==<br /> <br /> <br /> So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]<br /> ::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> : It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::: I'd say more &quot;Classics-ized&quot; versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Fresh trailer guys ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage<br /> <br /> Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...<br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> : Third link in &quot;external links&quot; at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Character Sources?==<br /> I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> : For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Release date==<br /> Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Motormaster ==<br /> <br /> Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version: <br /> http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg<br /> <br /> Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game. <br /> http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html<br /> : I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Interview and more gameplay and footage ==<br /> <br /> http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story<br /> <br /> Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.<br /> <br /> -Aaron Archer<br /> <br /> -It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.<br /> <br /> -Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?<br /> <br /> -And much more...<br /> <br /> ThiAthEhn<br /> <br /> == No PSP option... ==<br /> <br /> Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==<br /> <br /> I think its a &quot;revised&quot;<br /> backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Voice actor thing ==<br /> <br /> I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending &quot;false&quot; information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.<br /> :So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with &quot;AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego&quot; and &quot;Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]&quot;. Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not &quot;We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia.&quot; --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with &quot;idiots&quot; over &quot;cover-up&quot;. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == New Characters' pages? ==<br /> VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?<br /> : We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)<br /> <br /> VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> <br /> :The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out &quot;Oops, they're part of G1&quot; and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}<br /> :I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jazz? ==<br /> <br /> The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave<br /> <br /> == Image Captions/Quotes ==<br /> <br /> So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?<br /> <br /> And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.<br /> <br /> ''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''<br /> <br /> Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved<br /> <br /> [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)<br /> :By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same &quot;gritty dark&quot; feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: &quot;Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little.&quot; Omega Supreme's picture: &quot;Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off.&quot; Megatron: &quot;I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered.&quot; Bumblebee: &quot;Little people first!&quot;<br /> <br /> == New characters ==<br /> <br /> Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the &quot;embargo&quot; pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream_%28WFC%29|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only?<br /> <br /> == So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==<br /> <br /> [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&amp;postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::&quot;Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS...&quot; So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* Characters */</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Transformerswarforcybertron.jpg|center|500px|]]<br /> <br /> '''''Transformers: War for Cybertron''''' is a video game developed by [[High Moon Studios]] and published by [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]], set before the Transformers take their war to [[Earth]]. [[Hasbro]] intends it to act as a foundation for ''[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]'' franchise storylines for years to come, and so they've been giving a lot of input and stressing character development.&lt;ref name=&quot;tfw2005&quot;&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/tfw2005-war-for-cybertron-interview-with-aaron-archer-and-matt-tieger-168910/ War for Cybertron interview with Aaron Archer and Matt Tieger @ TFW2005.com]&lt;/ref&gt; The upcoming book ''[[Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron]]'' will be a tie-in to the game and its fiction, as will the cartoon series ''[[Transformers: Prime]]''.{{fact}}<br /> <br /> Unlike previous ''Transformers'' video games which feature distinctly separate campaigns for the Autobots and the Decepticons (traditionally depicting the playable faction utterly defeating the other), ''War for Cybertron'' will feature a single, linear storyline; the Decepticon campaign occurs chronologically before the Autobot campaign, but [[Fandom|fans]] can play through them in whichever order they prefer.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.seibertron.com/news/index.php?f_keyword=war+for+cybertron Seibertron Q&amp;A with Activision]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> The game itself will be an over-the-shoulder third-person shooter in which the player can choose his character from a small roster of either Autobots or Decepticons. The game will be released on [[June 22]], [[2010]], for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, Nintendo Wii (as ''[[Transformers: Cybertron Adventures]]''), Nintendo DS and personal computers. <br /> {{quote|One shall stand.|Optimus}}<br /> :{{quote|One shall fall.|Megatron}}<br /> <br /> ==Synopsis==<br /> <br /> [[Image:WarforCybertron-OptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|400px|Prime auditions for Unreal Tournament. There were no survivors.]]<br /> <br /> The game is set during the waning days of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] before coming to Earth. [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], genuinely believing a caste system will bring Cybertron back to its [[Golden Age]], is researching a dangerous power source known as [[Dark Energon]] to fuel his conquest of the planet. [[Optimus Prime (G1)|A guy called Optimus]] assumes temporary command following an attack on [[Iacon]] that killed [[Zeta Prime]], but he is not yet leader of the Autobots and doesn't really want to be in charge either. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ TFW2005 visits High Moon Studios]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> [[Starscream]] joins the Decepticons as second-in-command, but does not consider either Optimus or Megatron to have the planet's best interests at heart. (We will apparently learn ''why'' Starscream is such a whopping traitor and why Megatron [[:Image:Infiltration6_takeyourpunishment.jpg|doesn't just]] [[:Image:Swordscream.JPG|kill him]]).<br /> <br /> ==Characters==<br /> At the start of each level, the player can choose from one of three characters. Characters belong to one of four distinct classes: <br /> <br /> * '''Leaders:''' Vehicle forms are trucks. Support their team with buffs and debuff the enemy team.<br /> * '''Soldiers:''' Vehicle forms are tanks. Have heavy-hitting ranged and melee weaponry.<br /> * '''Scientists:''' Vehicle forms are jets. Use a variety of tricky technology and precise long-distance weaponry to heal their allies and control the battlefield from a distance.<br /> * '''Scouts:''' Vehicle forms are cars. Specialize in evasion and high-speed combat, along with disabling functions like EMP grenades.<br /> <br /> The characters available will shift from level to level. <br /> <br /> Known playable characters include:<br /> <br /> '''Autobots'''<br /> *[[Optimus_Prime_(G1)#War_for_Cybertron_video_game|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]]) ([http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/11/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-optimus-prime.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])<br /> *[[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] ([[Johnny Yong Bosch]]) &lt;ref&gt;[http://twitter.com/johnnyyongbosch/status/11686292590 Twitter post by Johnny Yong Bosch confirming his role as Bumblebee.]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *[[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]<br /> *[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]<br /> *[[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]]<br /> *[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]<br /> *[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]<br /> *[[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] <br /> *[[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]]<br /> *[[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] (Best Buy preorder exclusive) &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;jsessionid=0BAF66FE711A7E74FCE4428DB954168C.bbolsp-app04-47?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&amp;_dynSessConf=4725946217004960156&amp;id=pcat17071&amp;type=page&amp;st=Transformers+War+for+Cybertron&amp;sc=Global&amp;cp=1&amp;nrp=15&amp;sp=&amp;qp=&amp;list=n&amp;iht=y&amp;usc=All+Categories&amp;ks=960 Bestbuy.com preorder page featuring a special Jazz trailer]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> '''Decepticons'''<br /> *[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/18/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-megatron.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])<br /> *[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/23/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-starscream.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])<br /> *[[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]<br /> *[[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]]<br /> *[[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]<br /> *[[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]]<br /> *[[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] <br /> *[[Barricade (G1)|Barricade]]<br /> *[[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] (Gamestop preorder Multiplayer exclusive)<br /> *[[Demolishor (WFC)|Demolishor]] (Amazon.com preorder Multiplayer exclusive &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-War-Cybertron-Playstation-3/dp/B0030HM2WO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=videogames&amp;qid=1270579997&amp;sr=8-1 Amazon.com preorder page featuring a special Demolishor trailer]&lt;/ref&gt;, Play.com exclusive in UK)<br /> <br /> The Decepticon campaign includes a boss battle with [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] and the Autobot campaign includes defending [[Iacon]]. [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] appears in the IGN trailer, but he's, uh, probably not playable. Players should expect references to Cybertron locations taken from all previous Transformer stories, &quot;things which may have only been referenced once, in one comic way back when, could be used and expanded upon.&quot;&lt;ref name=&quot;tfw2005&quot;/&gt;<br /> <br /> ...They're totally reading the Wiki, aren't they? Hello, designers!<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-Bumblebee.jpg|Bumblebee fires his weapon.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-RatchetBumblebeePrime.jpg|Ratchet, Bumblebee, and Prime in battle.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-OmegaSupreme.jpg|Omega Supreme attacks a platoon of Decepticons.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-StarscreamMegatron.jpg|Starscream and Megatron get ready for the ground assault.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-StarscreamMegatronSoundwave.jpg|More Decepticons!<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-Soundwave.jpg|Soundwave sneaks around.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-Trypticon.jpg|Oh Primus.<br /> Image:War for Cybertron Shockwave.jpg|Resistance really does seem to be futile. <br /> Image:WfC-Kutaku-Grimlock.jpg|Dynobot?<br /> Image: DemolishorWar for Cyb.jpg<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Features==<br /> * Campaigns will be co-op online for the first time in a Transformers game.<br /> * All playable characters have two special abilities, such as absorbing health from enemies or marking targets.<br /> * The game will run on the Unreal engine.<br /> * High Moon is prepared to &quot;support the game after release,&quot; meaning either patches or downloadable content.<br /> * Online Multiplayer is being developed for the game.<br /> * All environments, including cover, can be destroyed.<br /> * Characters transform at any time with an easy and quick tap of the Left Analog stick. There is no &quot;cool down&quot; so players can transform as often and as freely as they wish.<br /> * The ability to create your own Transformers character for multiplayer. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.3news.co.nz/Transformers-War-for-Cybertron-trailer/tabid/418/articleID/144347/Default.aspx War For Cybertron trailer news at 3news.co.nz]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Production==<br /> <br /> As an early marketing campaign, the game's website included the feature &quot;Operation Transmission Recovery&quot;: using transmission and coordinate dials, you could pick up &quot;transmissions&quot; from Cybertron (or &quot;video clips&quot; to you and me). <br /> <br /> The art and design team did intense research (i.e. watched the original cartoon, looked at comics, and watched &quot;typical sci-fi cool stuff&quot; like ''Blade Runner'') to work out the aesthetic of Cybertron; lead artist [[Ivan Power]] remarked that the original cartoon was the main inspiration, and that Cybertron wasn't shown there so they had to rewatch the same few clips &quot;over and over&quot;. While many of the city designs are elaborate and shiny, Decepticon [[Kaon]] was deliberately designed to be sharp-edged, rusting, and slapped together to show the Decepticons weren't interested in building a functioning society. &lt;ref&gt;[http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/21/transformers-art-video.aspx Game Informer: Behind the Art of War for Cybertron]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Operation Transmission Recovery==<br /> <br /> As an early marketing campaign, the game's website included the feature &quot;Operation Transmission Recovery&quot;: using transmission and coordinate dials, you could pick up &quot;transmissions&quot; from Cybertron (or &quot;video clips/images&quot; to you and me).<br /> <br /> There are two dials, blue (outer) and yellow (inner). Using your mouse, you can drag the dial to set coordinates. The blue dial is set by aligning it to marks on the outer circle. When aligned, it becomes a blue ring. After that, the yellow dial is set so that signal strength is full, as indicated by a meter on the right. Once a transmission is unlocked its symbol lights up and the &quot;Total Recovered&quot; amount increases a little bit. When you reach 100%, it tells you how many hours remain until next batch. <br /> <br /> As of January 12, 2010, the following transmissions (Batch 9), almost all of which are part of the second trailer (link below), were available:<br /> <br /> {| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5<br /> | '''S. No.'''<br /> | '''Blue''' <br /> | '''Yellow'''<br /> | '''Type'''<br /> | '''Description'''<br /> |- <br /> | 1<br /> | 351<br /> | 327<br /> | Video<br /> | Game Trailer (unlocked by default).<br /> |-<br /> | 2<br /> | 018<br /> | 088<br /> | Video<br /> | Starscream flying.<br /> |-<br /> | 3<br /> | 018<br /> | 088<br /> | Image<br /> | Starscream standing.<br /> |-<br /> | 4<br /> | 029<br /> | 209<br /> | Video<br /> | Battle scene: Camera behind Autobots, Optimus is prominent.<br /> |-<br /> | 5<br /> | 040<br /> | 328<br /> | Image<br /> | Holographic map of Cybertron and its two moons.<br /> |-<br /> | 6<br /> | 051<br /> | 110<br /> | Image<br /> | Cybertron .<br /> |-<br /> | 7<br /> | 073<br /> | 190<br /> | Image<br /> | Optimus vs an average Decepticon.<br /> |-<br /> | 8<br /> | 085<br /> | 298<br /> | Video<br /> | Decepticon insignia (on Starscream).<br /> |-<br /> | 9<br /> | 096 <br /> | 347<br /> | Video<br /> | A bomb explosion on Cybertron's surface (possibly the same one which made a huge hole in it).<br /> |-<br /> | 10<br /> | 107<br /> | 035<br /> | Image<br /> | Megatron crushes cranial unit of a poor Autobot, Starscream is visible behind him, just before the ground assault.<br /> |-<br /> | 11<br /> | 120<br /> | 040<br /> | Image<br /> | Cybertron as seen from a moon.<br /> |-<br /> | 12<br /> | 140<br /> | 201<br /> | Image<br /> | Starscream flying towards Cybertron .<br /> |-<br /> | 13<br /> | 162<br /> | 359<br /> | Image<br /> | A red robot (Ironhide?).<br /> |-<br /> | 14<br /> | 173<br /> | 003<br /> | Image<br /> | A hall (Council of Autobot Elders?).<br /> |-<br /> | 15<br /> | 192<br /> | 147<br /> | Video<br /> | Injured Autobot, trying to get up .<br /> |-<br /> | 16<br /> | 203<br /> | 094<br /> | Video<br /> | Battle scene: Trypticon joins the battle as a burning asteroid (Entry mode) behind Decepticons and Autobots run towards it.<br /> |-<br /> | 17<br /> | 214<br /> | 004<br /> | Image<br /> | A city seen from a tunnel .<br /> |-<br /> | 18<br /> | 225<br /> | 199<br /> | Image<br /> | A city tower falling and hitting another tower.<br /> |-<br /> | 19<br /> | 265<br /> | 011<br /> | Image<br /> | Optimus Prime.<br /> |-<br /> | 20<br /> | 284<br /> | 021<br /> | Image<br /> | Megatron firing his gun (at YOU).<br /> |-<br /> | 21<br /> | 295<br /> | 249<br /> | Video<br /> | Optimus uses his axe on a Decepticon.<br /> |-<br /> | 22<br /> | 306<br /> | 041<br /> | Image<br /> | Cybertron as seen from another moon.<br /> |-<br /> | 23<br /> | 317<br /> | 081<br /> | Video<br /> | City skyline, camera moving down, some music in the background (start of the second trailer).<br /> |-<br /> | 24<br /> | 328<br /> | 221<br /> | Video<br /> | Battle scene: A missile hits a battlestation and an Autobot falls down from it.<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Toy tie-ins==<br /> [[Hasbro]] has confirmed that several toys will be made to tie into the promotion of the video game. These include figures of Optimus Prime, Megatron, and Bumblebee. At [[Toy Fair 2010]], they were confirmed to be part of the [[Generations (toyline)|''Generations'' toyline]].<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:WFC Optimus Prime toy.jpg<br /> Image:WFC Megatron toy.jpg<br /> Image:WFC Bumblebee toy.jpg<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Comic adaptation==<br /> <br /> [[IDW Publishing]] are bringing out a comic based on the game. News of this first got leaked when [[Australia|Australian]] website JB Hi-Fi offered a ''free'' copy of issue 1 if you pre-ordered the game from them. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/game/ps3/transformers-war-for-cybertron-bonus-comic-book/513755 TRANSFORMERS: WAR FOR CYBERTRON (Bonus Comic Book)]&lt;/ref&gt; The artist to the cover is revealed to be [[Marcelo Matere]], who updated his DeviantArt gallery with the inked version, &lt;ref&gt;[http://mmatere.deviantart.com/art/War-of-Cybertron-Cover-inks-165279485 Inks-only comic cover at Marcelo's DA gallery]&lt;/ref&gt; with [[Priscilla Tramontano]] as colorist. &lt;ref&gt;[http://noprips.deviantart.com/art/War-of-Cybertron-Cover-165344432 Colored cover at Priscilla's DA gallery]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://www.transformersgame.com/ Official site]<br /> *[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-debut-transformers-war/59860 Exclusive trailer via 'Game Trailers TV']<br /> *[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-gameplay-transformers-war/62343 Exclusive gameplay trailer via 'Game Trailers TV']<br /> *[http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/54929/transformers-war-for-cybertron/videos/transformerscyber_trl_revealtrailer_10710.html;jsessionid=8yroitu115mw Second, fuller trailer from IGN]<br /> *[http://gameinformer.com/mag/cybertron.aspx Behind the scenes bios and information from ''Game Informer'' magazine.]<br /> *[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gdc-10-transformers-war/62925 Civil War Story Interview at 'Game Trailers TV']<br /> *[http://www.allspark.com/content/view/6450/20/ Press release]<br /> <br /> [[Category: Video games]]</div>

98.204.17.1 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Sunstorm_(G1)&diff=453859 2010-05-05T01:12:11Z

<p>98.204.17.1: /* Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC */</p> <hr /> <div>{{disambig3|Sunstorm}}<br /> {{factions|decepticon}}<br /> :''Sunstorm is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''<br /> <br /> [[Image:G1Sunstorm-Yoshioka.jpg|right|thumb|300px|''&quot;I like to sing-a / about the moon-a and the june-a and the spring-a...&quot;'']]<br /> <br /> If bright colors are nature's way of saying &quot;do not touch&quot;, then nature's got nothin' on '''Sunstorm'''. Come too close, and circuits will short, steel housing will begin to melt, and psyches will break as the mind struggles to comprehend. Science would explain that his body is aflame in radiation, but Sunstorm has different ideas.<br /> <br /> Sometimes, Sunstorm merely believes he is secretly some kind of supernatural being, keeping his comrades away with his odd behavior. At other times, he thinks that he is the living embodiment of the Will of [[Primus]], placed by the divine in this universe to deal righteous judgment on the blasphemous. Occasionally, he just hovers silently in the background and shoots at things. <br /> <br /> Such is life.<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===<br /> ====''The Transformers'' cartoon====<br /> [[Image:Sunstorm Cartoon.jpg|thumb|200px|Hey mom, I'm on TV!]]<br /> Sunstorm was one of the Decepticon jets on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] four million years ago. He shot at the [[Autobot]]s [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] and [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] when they came near, and that's about it. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 1}}<br /> <br /> <br /> {{note|The character of Sunstorm was based retroactively on the orange jet (pictured at left) who appears in &quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]&quot;. In the episode &quot;[[Divide and Conquer]]&quot;, a different, all-yellow jet appears as part of a trio of Decepticon &quot;[[rainmaker]]s&quot;. Chances are, this version is not Sunstorm, even taking into consideration the haphazard coloring typically given to generic [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]].}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====e-Hobby pack-in comic====<br /> <br /> On [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], as a new morning began to rise, Sunstorm appeared to bask in the rays of the sun. He enthusiastically encouraged all those around him to wake up and take a good look at the beauty of a new dawn. Unfortunately, all those around him were dead [[Autobot]]s whom he had just killed. {{storylink|Decepticon Aerospace Warrior Sunstorm}}<br /> <br /> ===Dreamwave comics continuity===<br /> [[Image:BlackSunshine-SunstormStarscream.jpg|right|thumb|300px|And thus, Starscream was rendered sterile.]]<br /> [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave's]] experiments to fit a solar-powered fusion reactor into cloned Decepticon warriors reached their fruition in Sunstorm, a clone of the treacherous [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. Sunstorm's structure has been augmented to endure the enormous stresses involved. He was the perfect soldier; he possessed the ability to manipulate electromagnetic energy, enhanced regenerative capabilities, and a blank slate of a mind waiting to be written according to Shockwave's design.<br /> <br /> When the Autobots took [[New Iacon]] from Shockwave, he hurriedly uploaded the compressed contents of the supercomputer [[Vector Sigma]] to multiple locations, including the hidden cloning lab near the [[Quadrant Epsilon|Epsilon]] border where Sunstorm lay, awaiting instructions. The upload overwhelmed the lab's mainframe, spilling over into the only other available receptacle—Sunstorm. {{storylink|War and Peace}}<br /> <br /> Fleeing the fall of New Iacon, Decepticons [[Runabout]] and [[Runamuck (G1)|Runamuck]] broke into the Epsilon lab, unaware of its importance, intending to use it as a safehouse. After Runamuck amused himself by frying the lab's [[Mini-spy]] attendant, the duo accidentally awakened Sunstorm, who fried them... rather badly before his scrambled programming compelled him to depart, making his way to Earth. {{storylink|Night of the Combaticons}}<br /> <br /> [[Image:Atonement-SunstormJAccuse.jpg|left|thumb|250px|J'accuse!]]<br /> <br /> {{bigquote|'''Who am I?''' I am the presence anointed to carry forth the '''light.''' The '''original''' light, that which has '''no''' beginning and no end. '''Its''' searing heat shall '''purify''' the earth... purging this world of all flaws, and preparing it for '''what''' lies ahead.|Sunstorm emphasizes randomly|&quot;[[Black Sunshine]]&quot;}}<br /> <br /> <br /> Flying down to [[Earth]], he tried to get Starscream to join him in his crusade, though Starscream believed his clone to be completely insane. {{storylink|Black Sunshine}} Sunstorm battled with a number of Autobots, including [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], eventually uncovering an enormous well of energy deep below the ocean, sealed with a mechanical door bearing a Cybertronian symbol. [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] and Bumblebee fought to stop him from unleashing whatever power the well held, until Jetfire, sensing that Sunstorm's internal fusion reactor was growing increasingly unstable, flew the overzealous seeker into orbit. Sunstorm's reactor went critical and exploded violently, completely obliterating both of them. {{storylink|Atonement}}<br /> <br /> Sunstorm's almost supernatural durability was credited to his augmented molecular structure, similar to that of electrum. When [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet's]] Energy Siphon suppressed the effect, he was eaten away from within by the destructive energies of his own power source.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===3H comic continuity===<br /> <br /> [[Image:Sunstorm.jpg|thumb|right|150px|His own [[Sunstorm (Universe)|worst enemy]].]]<br /> <br /> An alternate-universe version of Sunstorm was one of [[Megazarak]]'s loyal inner circle. His radioactive condition was the result of an accident at the manufacturing facility during his birth. He was apparently a [[Child of Primus]],&lt;ref&gt;Sunstorm's [[bio]] in 3H's ''Official Transformers Collectors' Club Magazine''&lt;/ref&gt; though it is not known if or how he participated in the [[Universe war]]. A [[Minion of Unicron]] named [[Sunstorm (Universe)|Sunstorm]] ''did'' appear in that conflict, but there is no indication that they are the same individual. {{storylink|OTFCC 2004 Live-Action Script Reading}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Games==<br /> ===''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' - The Game===<br /> [[Image:ROTF_360PS3PC_G1Sunstorm_DLC.jpg|thumb|250px|]]<br /> :''Voice actor:'' [[Charles Adler]]<br /> <br /> ====Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC==== On [[August 27]], [[2009]], Sunstorm was one of a handful of downloadable characters in a downloadable content pack for Xbox 360 and Sony Playstation 3.<br /> {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Generation 1===<br /> [[Image:SunstormToy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Creamsicle creamseeker.]]<br /> * '''Sunstorm''' (Decepticon Jet, 2003, 2008)<br /> **''Japanese ID number'': '''89'''<br /> **''Accessories'': 2 missile launchers, 2 rifle-missiles, 2 rockets, left &amp; right fists, left &amp; right wings, left &amp; right tail-wings, landing gear<br /> <br /> : Sold only in a separately-packaged-toys set with [[Hauler|RoadHauler]] [[exclusive]] to [[e-Hobby]], Sunstorm is a [[redeco]] of the original [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] toy, transforming into an F-15 fighter jet. His coloration is inspired by—but not wholly accurate to for a variety of reasons—a previously-unnamed &quot;generic&quot; Decepticon seen in the episode &quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]&quot;. Being a Japanese release, his spring-loaded missile launchers are fully operational.<br /> <br /> : Sunstorm was released again in 2008 as part of the &quot;[[Encore]]&quot; re-release line, but this time with an exclusive comic by [[Hidetsugu Yoshioka]]. <br /> <br /> : The same base mold is used by [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]], [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]], and [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2003/Destron/Sunstorm/sunstorm.htm More information on Sunstorm at TFU.info]<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Titanium Series===<br /> [[Image:TitaniumSeries-Sunstorm.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Hey, remember that body I never had in that comic I wasn't in? Well, now you can buy it!]]<br /> *'''Sunstorm''' (6-inch Cybertron Heroes, 2007)<br /> **''Accessories'': Stand, name placard<br /> <br /> : ''[[Titanium Series]]'' Sunstorm is a redeco of &quot;[[War Within]]&quot; [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], transforming into a Cybertronian &quot;tetrajet&quot; as reimagined by [[Don Figueroa]]. As with all 6-inch ''Titanium Series'' Cybertron Heroes, he has large portions of his body constructed with fully-painted [[die-cast]] metal. <br /> <br /> : This mold was also used to make War Within Starscream, [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] and [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]]. <br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/Decepticon/TitSunstorm/sunstorm.htm More information on Titanium Sunstorm at TFU.info]''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Merchandise==<br /> ===Heroes of Cybertron===<br /> [[Image:HOC Sunstorm.jpg|right|thumb|200px|This will put your kids through college!]]<br /> *'''Sunstorm''' (OTFCC 2004 attendance freebie)<br /> <br /> :A ''[[Heroes of Cybertron]]'' version of Sunstorm was given as a freebie to people who pre-registered at [[OTFCC 2003]] for next year's [[OTFCC 2004]]. He was later made available for sale through the [[3H Productions]] website. A [[repaint]] of the mold used to make Starscream and the other [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]] in the ''Heroes of Cybertron'' line, Sunstorm's colors are inspired by the e-Hobby toy, but given more variety in its shades of orange.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Palisades===<br /> * '''Sunstorm''' (Palisades, 2005)<br /> <br /> [[Image:PalisadesSunstorm.jpg|thumb|200px]]<br /> <br /> :A ''Previews''-exclusive redeco of the Starscream statue, Sunstorm is a six inch tall statue with articulated head and arms. He can stand normally or use a stand to take on a &quot;hovering&quot; pose. Sunstorm was limited to 300 pieces, and sculpted by [[3L Creation Group]] from a design by [[George Tremarco]].[http://web.archive.org/web/20050407011030/http://toychest.diamondcomics.com/toys/12_04/14_tf_sunstorm.htm]<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Diamond Select===<br /> [[Image:DiamondSelectSunstormbust.jpg|right|thumb|200px|]]<br /> * '''Sunstorm''' (Diamond Select, 2010)<br /> :Sunstorm is a repainted and slightly-altered version of the Starscream bust sculpted by [[Mark Wong]] of [[Art Asylum]]. Now with a new head and a differently-posed left hand, Sunstorm is limited to 600 pieces.<br /> <br /> {{comingsoontoy}}<br /> <br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> [[Image:StudioOxCybertronBattleCons.jpg|thumb|250px|Look just above &lt;strike&gt;Astro Magnum&lt;/strike&gt; &lt;strike&gt;Galactic Man&lt;/strike&gt; grey [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s gun-arm.]]<br /> *An orange Cybertronic &quot;pyramid jet&quot; is depicted in a Cybertronian battle scene by [[Studio Ox]] that appeared in ''[[TV Magazine]]'' (and was reprinted in ''[[Transformers Generations]]'' and ''[[Transformers Visualworks]]''). Hmm. You don't think...? <br /> <br /> * [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]], who both named Sunstorm and wrote his original bio, also considered the names Flareburst and Flarestorm for him.&lt;ref&gt;[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/43df7ba151f7a1b3 Doug Dlin reporting personal communications with Ichikawa], [[alt.toys.transformers]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> *Sunstorm is apparently a fan of professional wrestling, having performed both a Stone Cold Stunner and DDT when engaging in close combat with Jetfire.<br /> <br /> *Sunstorm is a newly playable character in the DLC for the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of the Revenge of the Fallen game. While he seems to lack his atomic touch and pure insanity, he did get a pair of kickass flamethrowers!<br /> <br /> ==External Links==<br /> *[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&amp;char=Sunstorm Sunstorm's OTTC profile at NFTA.net]<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{reflist}}<br /> <br /> [[Category: Children of Primus]]<br /> [[Category: Clones]]<br /> [[Category: Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category: E-Hobby]]<br /> [[Category: Generation 1 characters]]<br /> [[Category: Revenge of the Fallen characters]]<br /> [[Category: Seekers]]<br /> [[Category: Titanium Series]]<br /> [[Category: Universe characters]]</div>

98.204.17.1 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Sunstorm_(G1)&diff=453858 2010-05-05T01:11:31Z

<p>98.204.17.1: /* Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC */</p> <hr /> <div>{{disambig3|Sunstorm}}<br /> {{factions|decepticon}}<br /> :''Sunstorm is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''<br /> <br /> [[Image:G1Sunstorm-Yoshioka.jpg|right|thumb|300px|''&quot;I like to sing-a / about the moon-a and the june-a and the spring-a...&quot;'']]<br /> <br /> If bright colors are nature's way of saying &quot;do not touch&quot;, then nature's got nothin' on '''Sunstorm'''. Come too close, and circuits will short, steel housing will begin to melt, and psyches will break as the mind struggles to comprehend. Science would explain that his body is aflame in radiation, but Sunstorm has different ideas.<br /> <br /> Sometimes, Sunstorm merely believes he is secretly some kind of supernatural being, keeping his comrades away with his odd behavior. At other times, he thinks that he is the living embodiment of the Will of [[Primus]], placed by the divine in this universe to deal righteous judgment on the blasphemous. Occasionally, he just hovers silently in the background and shoots at things. <br /> <br /> Such is life.<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===<br /> ====''The Transformers'' cartoon====<br /> [[Image:Sunstorm Cartoon.jpg|thumb|200px|Hey mom, I'm on TV!]]<br /> Sunstorm was one of the Decepticon jets on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] four million years ago. He shot at the [[Autobot]]s [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] and [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] when they came near, and that's about it. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 1}}<br /> <br /> <br /> {{note|The character of Sunstorm was based retroactively on the orange jet (pictured at left) who appears in &quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]&quot;. In the episode &quot;[[Divide and Conquer]]&quot;, a different, all-yellow jet appears as part of a trio of Decepticon &quot;[[rainmaker]]s&quot;. Chances are, this version is not Sunstorm, even taking into consideration the haphazard coloring typically given to generic [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]].}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====e-Hobby pack-in comic====<br /> <br /> On [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], as a new morning began to rise, Sunstorm appeared to bask in the rays of the sun. He enthusiastically encouraged all those around him to wake up and take a good look at the beauty of a new dawn. Unfortunately, all those around him were dead [[Autobot]]s whom he had just killed. {{storylink|Decepticon Aerospace Warrior Sunstorm}}<br /> <br /> ===Dreamwave comics continuity===<br /> [[Image:BlackSunshine-SunstormStarscream.jpg|right|thumb|300px|And thus, Starscream was rendered sterile.]]<br /> [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave's]] experiments to fit a solar-powered fusion reactor into cloned Decepticon warriors reached their fruition in Sunstorm, a clone of the treacherous [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. Sunstorm's structure has been augmented to endure the enormous stresses involved. He was the perfect soldier; he possessed the ability to manipulate electromagnetic energy, enhanced regenerative capabilities, and a blank slate of a mind waiting to be written according to Shockwave's design.<br /> <br /> When the Autobots took [[New Iacon]] from Shockwave, he hurriedly uploaded the compressed contents of the supercomputer [[Vector Sigma]] to multiple locations, including the hidden cloning lab near the [[Quadrant Epsilon|Epsilon]] border where Sunstorm lay, awaiting instructions. The upload overwhelmed the lab's mainframe, spilling over into the only other available receptacle—Sunstorm. {{storylink|War and Peace}}<br /> <br /> Fleeing the fall of New Iacon, Decepticons [[Runabout]] and [[Runamuck (G1)|Runamuck]] broke into the Epsilon lab, unaware of its importance, intending to use it as a safehouse. After Runamuck amused himself by frying the lab's [[Mini-spy]] attendant, the duo accidentally awakened Sunstorm, who fried them... rather badly before his scrambled programming compelled him to depart, making his way to Earth. {{storylink|Night of the Combaticons}}<br /> <br /> [[Image:Atonement-SunstormJAccuse.jpg|left|thumb|250px|J'accuse!]]<br /> <br /> {{bigquote|'''Who am I?''' I am the presence anointed to carry forth the '''light.''' The '''original''' light, that which has '''no''' beginning and no end. '''Its''' searing heat shall '''purify''' the earth... purging this world of all flaws, and preparing it for '''what''' lies ahead.|Sunstorm emphasizes randomly|&quot;[[Black Sunshine]]&quot;}}<br /> <br /> <br /> Flying down to [[Earth]], he tried to get Starscream to join him in his crusade, though Starscream believed his clone to be completely insane. {{storylink|Black Sunshine}} Sunstorm battled with a number of Autobots, including [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], eventually uncovering an enormous well of energy deep below the ocean, sealed with a mechanical door bearing a Cybertronian symbol. [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] and Bumblebee fought to stop him from unleashing whatever power the well held, until Jetfire, sensing that Sunstorm's internal fusion reactor was growing increasingly unstable, flew the overzealous seeker into orbit. Sunstorm's reactor went critical and exploded violently, completely obliterating both of them. {{storylink|Atonement}}<br /> <br /> Sunstorm's almost supernatural durability was credited to his augmented molecular structure, similar to that of electrum. When [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet's]] Energy Siphon suppressed the effect, he was eaten away from within by the destructive energies of his own power source.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===3H comic continuity===<br /> <br /> [[Image:Sunstorm.jpg|thumb|right|150px|His own [[Sunstorm (Universe)|worst enemy]].]]<br /> <br /> An alternate-universe version of Sunstorm was one of [[Megazarak]]'s loyal inner circle. His radioactive condition was the result of an accident at the manufacturing facility during his birth. He was apparently a [[Child of Primus]],&lt;ref&gt;Sunstorm's [[bio]] in 3H's ''Official Transformers Collectors' Club Magazine''&lt;/ref&gt; though it is not known if or how he participated in the [[Universe war]]. A [[Minion of Unicron]] named [[Sunstorm (Universe)|Sunstorm]] ''did'' appear in that conflict, but there is no indication that they are the same individual. {{storylink|OTFCC 2004 Live-Action Script Reading}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Games==<br /> ===''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' - The Game===<br /> [[Image:ROTF_360PS3PC_G1Sunstorm_DLC.jpg|thumb|250px|]]<br /> :''Voice actor:'' [[Charles Adler]]<br /> <br /> ====Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC====<br /> {{Note|On [[August 27]], [[2009]], Sunstorm was one of a handful of downloadable characters in a downloadable content pack for Xbox 360 and Sony Playstation 3.<br /> {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Generation 1===<br /> [[Image:SunstormToy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Creamsicle creamseeker.]]<br /> * '''Sunstorm''' (Decepticon Jet, 2003, 2008)<br /> **''Japanese ID number'': '''89'''<br /> **''Accessories'': 2 missile launchers, 2 rifle-missiles, 2 rockets, left &amp; right fists, left &amp; right wings, left &amp; right tail-wings, landing gear<br /> <br /> : Sold only in a separately-packaged-toys set with [[Hauler|RoadHauler]] [[exclusive]] to [[e-Hobby]], Sunstorm is a [[redeco]] of the original [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] toy, transforming into an F-15 fighter jet. His coloration is inspired by—but not wholly accurate to for a variety of reasons—a previously-unnamed &quot;generic&quot; Decepticon seen in the episode &quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]&quot;. Being a Japanese release, his spring-loaded missile launchers are fully operational.<br /> <br /> : Sunstorm was released again in 2008 as part of the &quot;[[Encore]]&quot; re-release line, but this time with an exclusive comic by [[Hidetsugu Yoshioka]]. <br /> <br /> : The same base mold is used by [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]], [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]], and [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2003/Destron/Sunstorm/sunstorm.htm More information on Sunstorm at TFU.info]<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Titanium Series===<br /> [[Image:TitaniumSeries-Sunstorm.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Hey, remember that body I never had in that comic I wasn't in? Well, now you can buy it!]]<br /> *'''Sunstorm''' (6-inch Cybertron Heroes, 2007)<br /> **''Accessories'': Stand, name placard<br /> <br /> : ''[[Titanium Series]]'' Sunstorm is a redeco of &quot;[[War Within]]&quot; [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], transforming into a Cybertronian &quot;tetrajet&quot; as reimagined by [[Don Figueroa]]. As with all 6-inch ''Titanium Series'' Cybertron Heroes, he has large portions of his body constructed with fully-painted [[die-cast]] metal. <br /> <br /> : This mold was also used to make War Within Starscream, [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] and [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]]. <br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/Decepticon/TitSunstorm/sunstorm.htm More information on Titanium Sunstorm at TFU.info]''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Merchandise==<br /> ===Heroes of Cybertron===<br /> [[Image:HOC Sunstorm.jpg|right|thumb|200px|This will put your kids through college!]]<br /> *'''Sunstorm''' (OTFCC 2004 attendance freebie)<br /> <br /> :A ''[[Heroes of Cybertron]]'' version of Sunstorm was given as a freebie to people who pre-registered at [[OTFCC 2003]] for next year's [[OTFCC 2004]]. He was later made available for sale through the [[3H Productions]] website. A [[repaint]] of the mold used to make Starscream and the other [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]] in the ''Heroes of Cybertron'' line, Sunstorm's colors are inspired by the e-Hobby toy, but given more variety in its shades of orange.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Palisades===<br /> * '''Sunstorm''' (Palisades, 2005)<br /> <br /> [[Image:PalisadesSunstorm.jpg|thumb|200px]]<br /> <br /> :A ''Previews''-exclusive redeco of the Starscream statue, Sunstorm is a six inch tall statue with articulated head and arms. He can stand normally or use a stand to take on a &quot;hovering&quot; pose. Sunstorm was limited to 300 pieces, and sculpted by [[3L Creation Group]] from a design by [[George Tremarco]].[http://web.archive.org/web/20050407011030/http://toychest.diamondcomics.com/toys/12_04/14_tf_sunstorm.htm]<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Diamond Select===<br /> [[Image:DiamondSelectSunstormbust.jpg|right|thumb|200px|]]<br /> * '''Sunstorm''' (Diamond Select, 2010)<br /> :Sunstorm is a repainted and slightly-altered version of the Starscream bust sculpted by [[Mark Wong]] of [[Art Asylum]]. Now with a new head and a differently-posed left hand, Sunstorm is limited to 600 pieces.<br /> <br /> {{comingsoontoy}}<br /> <br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> [[Image:StudioOxCybertronBattleCons.jpg|thumb|250px|Look just above &lt;strike&gt;Astro Magnum&lt;/strike&gt; &lt;strike&gt;Galactic Man&lt;/strike&gt; grey [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s gun-arm.]]<br /> *An orange Cybertronic &quot;pyramid jet&quot; is depicted in a Cybertronian battle scene by [[Studio Ox]] that appeared in ''[[TV Magazine]]'' (and was reprinted in ''[[Transformers Generations]]'' and ''[[Transformers Visualworks]]''). Hmm. You don't think...? <br /> <br /> * [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]], who both named Sunstorm and wrote his original bio, also considered the names Flareburst and Flarestorm for him.&lt;ref&gt;[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/43df7ba151f7a1b3 Doug Dlin reporting personal communications with Ichikawa], [[alt.toys.transformers]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> *Sunstorm is apparently a fan of professional wrestling, having performed both a Stone Cold Stunner and DDT when engaging in close combat with Jetfire.<br /> <br /> *Sunstorm is a newly playable character in the DLC for the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of the Revenge of the Fallen game. While he seems to lack his atomic touch and pure insanity, he did get a pair of kickass flamethrowers!<br /> <br /> ==External Links==<br /> *[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&amp;char=Sunstorm Sunstorm's OTTC profile at NFTA.net]<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{reflist}}<br /> <br /> [[Category: Children of Primus]]<br /> [[Category: Clones]]<br /> [[Category: Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category: E-Hobby]]<br /> [[Category: Generation 1 characters]]<br /> [[Category: Revenge of the Fallen characters]]<br /> [[Category: Seekers]]<br /> [[Category: Titanium Series]]<br /> [[Category: Universe characters]]</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* Characters */</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Transformerswarforcybertron.jpg|center|500px|]]<br /> <br /> '''''Transformers: War for Cybertron''''' is a video game developed by [[High Moon Studios]] and published by [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]], set before the Transformers take their war to [[Earth]]. [[Hasbro]] intends it to act as a foundation for ''[[Transformers brand| Transformers]]'' franchise storylines for years to come, and so they've been giving a lot of input and stressing character development.&lt;ref name=&quot;tfw2005&quot;&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/tfw2005-war-for-cybertron-interview-with-aaron-archer-and-matt-tieger-168910/ War for Cybertron interview with Aaron Archer and Matt Tieger @ TFW2005.com]&lt;/ref&gt; The upcoming book ''[[Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron]]'' may be a tie-in to the game and its fiction.<br /> <br /> Unlike previous ''Transformers'' video games which feature distinctly separate campaigns for the Autobots and the Decepticons (traditionally depicting the playable faction utterly defeating the other), ''War for Cybertron'' will feature a single, linear storyline; the Decepticon campaign occurs chronologically before the Autobot campaign, but [[Fandom|fans]] can play through them in whichever order they prefer.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.seibertron.com/news/index.php?f_keyword=war+for+cybertron Seibertron Q&amp;A with Activision]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> The game itself will be an over-the-shoulder third-person shooter in which the player can choose his character from a small roster of either Autobots or Decepticons. The game will be released on [[June 22]], [[2010]], for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, Nintendo Wii, Nintendo DS and personal computers. <br /> {{quote|One shall stand.|Optimus}}<br /> :{{quote|One shall fall.|Megatron}}<br /> <br /> ==Synopsis==<br /> <br /> [[Image:WarforCybertron-OptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|400px|Prime auditions for Unreal Tournament. There were no survivors.]]<br /> <br /> The game is set during the waning days of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] before coming to Earth. [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] is searching for a dangerous power source known as [[Dark Energon]] to fuel his conquest of the planet. [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] assumes temporary command following an attack on [[Iacon]] that killed [[Zeta Prime]], but he is not yet leader of the Autobots. [[Starscream]] joins the Decepticons as second-in-command, but does not consider either Optimus or Megatron to have the planet's best interests at heart. (We will apparently learn ''why'' Starscream is such a whopping traitor and why Megatron [[:Image:Infiltration6_takeyourpunishment.jpg|doesn't just]] [[:Image:Swordscream.JPG|kill him]]).<br /> <br /> ==Characters==<br /> At the start of each level, the player can choose from one of three characters. The characters available will shift from level to level. Known playable characters include:<br /> <br /> '''Autobots'''<br /> *[[Optimus_Prime_(G1)#War_for_Cybertron_video_game|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]]) ([http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/11/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-optimus-prime.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])<br /> *[[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] ([[Johnny Yong Bosch]]) &lt;ref&gt;[http://twitter.com/johnnyyongbosch/status/11686292590 Twitter post by Johnny Yong Bosch confirming his role as Bumblebee.]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *[[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]<br /> *[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]<br /> *[[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]]<br /> *[[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]<br /> *[[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]]<br /> *[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]<br /> *[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]<br /> *[[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]]<br /> *[[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] <br /> *[[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]]<br /> *[[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] (Best Buy preorder exclusive) &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;jsessionid=0BAF66FE711A7E74FCE4428DB954168C.bbolsp-app04-47?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&amp;_dynSessConf=4725946217004960156&amp;id=pcat17071&amp;type=page&amp;st=Transformers+War+for+Cybertron&amp;sc=Global&amp;cp=1&amp;nrp=15&amp;sp=&amp;qp=&amp;list=n&amp;iht=y&amp;usc=All+Categories&amp;ks=960 Bestbuy.com preorder page featuring a special Jazz trailer]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> '''Decepticons'''<br /> *[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/18/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-megatron.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])<br /> *[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/23/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-starscream.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])<br /> *[[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]<br /> *[[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]]<br /> *[[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]<br /> *[[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]]<br /> *[[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]]<br /> *[[Barricade (G1)|Barricade]]<br /> *[[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] (Gamestop preorder Multiplayer exclusive)<br /> *[[Demolishor (WFC)|Demolishor]] (Amazon.com preorder Multiplayer exclusive &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-War-Cybertron-Playstation-3/dp/B0030HM2WO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=videogames&amp;qid=1270579997&amp;sr=8-1 Amazon.com preorder page featuring a special Demolishor trailer]&lt;/ref&gt;, Play.com exclusive in UK)<br /> <br /> The Decepticon campaign includes a boss battle with [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] and the Autobot campaign includes defending [[Iacon]]. [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] appears in the IGN trailer, but he's, uh, probably not playable. Players should expect references to Cybertron locations taken from all previous Transformer stories, &quot;things which may have only been referenced once, in one comic way back when, could be used and expanded upon.&quot;&lt;ref name=&quot;tfw2005&quot;/&gt;<br /> <br /> ...They're totally reading the Wiki, aren't they? Hello, designers!<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-Bumblebee.jpg|Bumblebee fires his weapon.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-RatchetBumblebeePrime.jpg|Ratchet, Bumblebee, and Prime in battle.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-OmegaSupreme.jpg|Omega Supreme attacks a platoon of Decepticons.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-StarscreamMegatron.jpg|Starscream and Megatron get ready for the ground assault.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-StarscreamMegatronSoundwave.jpg|More Decepticons!<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-Soundwave.jpg|Soundwave sneaks around.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-Trypticon.jpg|Oh Primus.<br /> Image:War for Cybertron Shockwave.jpg|Resistance really does seem to be futile. <br /> Image:WfC-Kutaku-Grimlock.jpg|Dynobot?<br /> <br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Features==<br /> * Campaigns will be co-op both online and off for the first time in a Transformers game.<br /> * All playable characters have two special abilities, such as absorbing health from enemies or marking targets.<br /> * The game will run on the Unreal engine.<br /> * High Moon is prepared to &quot;support the game after release,&quot; meaning either patches or downloadable content.<br /> * Online Multiplayer is being developed for the game.<br /> * All environments, including cover, can be destroyed.<br /> * Characters transform at any time with an easy and quick tap of the Left Analog stick. There is no &quot;cool down&quot; so players can transform as often and as freely as they wish.<br /> * The ability to create your own Transformers character for multiplayer. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.3news.co.nz/Transformers-War-for-Cybertron-trailer/tabid/418/articleID/144347/Default.aspx War For Cybertron trailer news at 3news.co.nz]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Production==<br /> <br /> As an early marketing campaign, the game's website included the feature &quot;Operation Transmission Recovery&quot;: using transmission and coordinate dials, you could pick up &quot;transmissions&quot; from Cybertron (or &quot;video clips&quot; to you and me). <br /> <br /> The art and design team did intense research (i.e. watched the original cartoon, looked at comics, and watched &quot;typical sci-fi cool stuff&quot; like ''Blade Runner'') to work out the aesthetic of Cybertron; lead artist [[Ivan Power]] remarked that the original cartoon was the main inspiration, and that Cybertron wasn't shown there so they had to rewatch the same few clips &quot;over and over&quot;. While many of the city designs are elaborate and shiny, Decepticon [[Kaon]] was deliberately designed to be sharp-edged, rusting, and slapped together to show the Decepticons weren't interested in building a functioning society. &lt;ref&gt;[http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/21/transformers-art-video.aspx Game Informer: Behind the Art of War for Cybertron]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Operation Transmission Recovery==<br /> <br /> As an early marketing campaign, the game's website included the feature &quot;Operation Transmission Recovery&quot;: using transmission and coordinate dials, you could pick up &quot;transmissions&quot; from Cybertron (or &quot;video clips/images&quot; to you and me).<br /> <br /> There are two dials, blue (outer) and yellow (inner). Using your mouse, you can drag the dial to set coordinates. The blue dial is set by aligning it to marks on the outer circle. When aligned, it becomes a blue ring. After that, the yellow dial is set so that signal strength is full, as indicated by a meter on the right. Once a transmission is unlocked its symbol lights up and the &quot;Total Recovered&quot; amount increases a little bit. When you reach 100%, it tells you how many hours remain until next batch. <br /> <br /> As of January 12, 2010, the following transmissions (Batch 9), almost all of which are part of the second trailer (link below), were available:<br /> <br /> {| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5<br /> | '''S. No.'''<br /> | '''Blue''' <br /> | '''Yellow'''<br /> | '''Type'''<br /> | '''Description'''<br /> |- <br /> | 1<br /> | 351<br /> | 327<br /> | Video<br /> | Game Trailer (unlocked by default).<br /> |-<br /> | 2<br /> | 018<br /> | 088<br /> | Video<br /> | Starscream flying.<br /> |-<br /> | 3<br /> | 018<br /> | 088<br /> | Image<br /> | Starscream standing.<br /> |-<br /> | 4<br /> | 029<br /> | 209<br /> | Video<br /> | Battle scene: Camera behind Autobots, Optimus is prominent.<br /> |-<br /> | 5<br /> | 040<br /> | 328<br /> | Image<br /> | Holographic map of Cybertron and its two moons.<br /> |-<br /> | 6<br /> | 051<br /> | 110<br /> | Image<br /> | Cybertron .<br /> |-<br /> | 7<br /> | 073<br /> | 190<br /> | Image<br /> | Optimus vs an average Decepticon.<br /> |-<br /> | 8<br /> | 085<br /> | 298<br /> | Video<br /> | Decepticon insignia (on Starscream).<br /> |-<br /> | 9<br /> | 096 <br /> | 347<br /> | Video<br /> | A bomb explosion on Cybertron's surface (possibly the same one which made a huge hole in it).<br /> |-<br /> | 10<br /> | 107<br /> | 035<br /> | Image<br /> | Megatron crushes cranial unit of a poor Autobot, Starscream is visible behind him, just before the ground assault.<br /> |-<br /> | 11<br /> | 120<br /> | 040<br /> | Image<br /> | Cybertron as seen from a moon.<br /> |-<br /> | 12<br /> | 140<br /> | 201<br /> | Image<br /> | Starscream flying towards Cybertron .<br /> |-<br /> | 13<br /> | 162<br /> | 359<br /> | Image<br /> | A red robot (Ironhide?).<br /> |-<br /> | 14<br /> | 173<br /> | 003<br /> | Image<br /> | A hall (Council of Autobot Elders?).<br /> |-<br /> | 15<br /> | 192<br /> | 147<br /> | Video<br /> | Injured Autobot, trying to get up .<br /> |-<br /> | 16<br /> | 203<br /> | 094<br /> | Video<br /> | Battle scene: Trypticon joins the battle as a burning asteroid (Entry mode) behind Decepticons and Autobots run towards it.<br /> |-<br /> | 17<br /> | 214<br /> | 004<br /> | Image<br /> | A city seen from a tunnel .<br /> |-<br /> | 18<br /> | 225<br /> | 199<br /> | Image<br /> | A city tower falling and hitting another tower.<br /> |-<br /> | 19<br /> | 265<br /> | 011<br /> | Image<br /> | Optimus Prime.<br /> |-<br /> | 20<br /> | 284<br /> | 021<br /> | Image<br /> | Megatron firing his gun (at YOU).<br /> |-<br /> | 21<br /> | 295<br /> | 249<br /> | Video<br /> | Optimus uses his axe on a Decepticon.<br /> |-<br /> | 22<br /> | 306<br /> | 041<br /> | Image<br /> | Cybertron as seen from another moon.<br /> |-<br /> | 23<br /> | 317<br /> | 081<br /> | Video<br /> | City skyline, camera moving down, some music in the background (start of the second trailer).<br /> |-<br /> | 24<br /> | 328<br /> | 221<br /> | Video<br /> | Battle scene: A missile hits a battlestation and an Autobot falls down from it.<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Toy tie-ins==<br /> [[Hasbro]] has confirmed that several toys will be made to tie into the promotion of the video game. These include figures of Optimus Prime, Megatron, and Bumblebee. At [[Toy Fair 2010]], they were confirmed to be part of the [[Generations (toyline)|''Generations'' toyline]].<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:WFC Optimus Prime toy.jpg<br /> Image:WFC Megatron toy.jpg<br /> Image:WFC Bumblebee toy.jpg<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://www.transformersgame.com/ Official site]<br /> *[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-debut-transformers-war/59860 Exclusive trailer via 'Game Trailers TV']<br /> *[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-gameplay-transformers-war/62343 Exclusive gameplay trailer via 'Game Trailers TV']<br /> *[http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/54929/transformers-war-for-cybertron/videos/transformerscyber_trl_revealtrailer_10710.html;jsessionid=8yroitu115mw Second, fuller trailer from IGN]<br /> *[http://gameinformer.com/mag/cybertron.aspx Behind the scenes bios and information from ''Game Informer'' magazine.]<br /> *[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gdc-10-transformers-war/62925 Civil War Story Interview at 'Game Trailers TV']<br /> *[http://www.allspark.com/content/view/6450/20/ Press release]<br /> <br /> [[Category: Video games]]</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* Characters */</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Transformerswarforcybertron.jpg|center|500px|]]<br /> <br /> '''''Transformers: War for Cybertron''''' is a video game developed by [[High Moon Studios]] and published by [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]], set before the Transformers take their war to [[Earth]]. [[Hasbro]] intends it to act as a foundation for ''[[Transformers brand| Transformers]]'' franchise storylines for years to come, and so they've been giving a lot of input and stressing character development.&lt;ref name=&quot;tfw2005&quot;&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/tfw2005-war-for-cybertron-interview-with-aaron-archer-and-matt-tieger-168910/ War for Cybertron interview with Aaron Archer and Matt Tieger @ TFW2005.com]&lt;/ref&gt; The upcoming book ''[[Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron]]'' may be a tie-in to the game and its fiction.<br /> <br /> Unlike previous ''Transformers'' video games which feature distinctly separate campaigns for the Autobots and the Decepticons (traditionally depicting the playable faction utterly defeating the other), ''War for Cybertron'' will feature a single, linear storyline; the Decepticon campaign occurs chronologically before the Autobot campaign, but [[Fandom|fans]] can play through them in whichever order they prefer.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.seibertron.com/news/index.php?f_keyword=war+for+cybertron Seibertron Q&amp;A with Activision]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> The game itself will be an over-the-shoulder third-person shooter in which the player can choose his character from a small roster of either Autobots or Decepticons. The game will be released on [[June 22]], [[2010]], for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, Nintendo Wii, Nintendo DS and personal computers. <br /> {{quote|One shall stand.|Optimus}}<br /> :{{quote|One shall fall.|Megatron}}<br /> <br /> ==Synopsis==<br /> <br /> [[Image:WarforCybertron-OptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|400px|Prime auditions for Unreal Tournament. There were no survivors.]]<br /> <br /> The game is set during the waning days of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] before coming to Earth. [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] is searching for a dangerous power source known as [[Dark Energon]] to fuel his conquest of the planet. [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] assumes temporary command following an attack on [[Iacon]] that killed [[Zeta Prime]], but he is not yet leader of the Autobots. [[Starscream]] joins the Decepticons as second-in-command, but does not consider either Optimus or Megatron to have the planet's best interests at heart. (We will apparently learn ''why'' Starscream is such a whopping traitor and why Megatron [[:Image:Infiltration6_takeyourpunishment.jpg|doesn't just]] [[:Image:Swordscream.JPG|kill him]]).<br /> <br /> ==Characters==<br /> At the start of each level, the player can choose from one of three characters. The characters available will shift from level to level. Known playable characters include:<br /> <br /> '''Autobots'''<br /> *[[Optimus_Prime_(G1)#War_for_Cybertron_video_game|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]]) ([http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/11/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-optimus-prime.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])<br /> *[[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] ([[Johnny Yong Bosch]]) &lt;ref&gt;[http://twitter.com/johnnyyongbosch/status/11686292590 Twitter post by Johnny Yong Bosch confirming his role as Bumblebee.]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *[[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]<br /> *[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]<br /> *[[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]]<br /> *[[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]<br /> *[[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]]<br /> *[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]<br /> *[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]<br /> *[[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]]<br /> *[[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] <br /> *[[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]]<br /> *[[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] (Best Buy preorder exclusive) &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;jsessionid=0BAF66FE711A7E74FCE4428DB954168C.bbolsp-app04-47?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&amp;_dynSessConf=4725946217004960156&amp;id=pcat17071&amp;type=page&amp;st=Transformers+War+for+Cybertron&amp;sc=Global&amp;cp=1&amp;nrp=15&amp;sp=&amp;qp=&amp;list=n&amp;iht=y&amp;usc=All+Categories&amp;ks=960 Bestbuy.com preorder page featuring a special Jazz trailer]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> '''Decepticons'''<br /> *[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/18/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-megatron.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])<br /> *[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/23/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-starscream.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])<br /> *[[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]<br /> *[[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]]<br /> *[[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]<br /> *[[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]]<br /> *[[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]]<br /> *[[Barricade (G1)|Barricade]]<br /> *[[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] (Gamestop preorder Multiplayer exclusive)<br /> *[[Demolishor (WFC)|Demolishor]] (Amazon.com preorder Multiplayer exclusive &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-War-Cybertron-Playstation-3/dp/B0030HM2WO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=videogames&amp;qid=1270579997&amp;sr=8-1 Amazon.com preorder page featuring a special Demolishor trailer]&lt;/ref&gt;, Play.com exclusive in UK)<br /> <br /> The Decepticon campaign includes a boss battle with [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] and the Autobot campaign includes defending [[Iacon]]. [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] appears in the IGN trailer, but he's, uh, probably not playable. Players should expect references to Cybertron locations taken from all previous Transformer stories, &quot;things which may have only been referenced once, in one comic way back when, could be used and expanded upon.&quot;&lt;ref name=&quot;tfw2005&quot;/&gt;<br /> <br /> ...They're totally reading the Wiki, aren't they? Hello, designers!<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-Bumblebee.jpg|Bumblebee fires his weapon.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-RatchetBumblebeePrime.jpg|Ratchet, Bumblebee, and Prime in battle.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-OmegaSupreme.jpg|Omega Supreme attacks a platoon of Decepticons.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-StarscreamMegatron.jpg|Starscream and Megatron get ready for the ground assault.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-StarscreamMegatronSoundwave.jpg|More Decepticons!<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-Soundwave.jpg|Soundwave sneaks around.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-Trypticon.jpg|Oh Primus.<br /> Image:War for Cybertron Shockwave.jpg|Resistance really does seem to be futile. <br /> Image:WfC-Kutaku-Grimlock.jpg|Dynobot?<br /> <br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Features==<br /> * Campaigns will be co-op both online and off for the first time in a Transformers game.<br /> * All playable characters have two special abilities, such as absorbing health from enemies or marking targets.<br /> * The game will run on the Unreal engine.<br /> * High Moon is prepared to &quot;support the game after release,&quot; meaning either patches or downloadable content.<br /> * Online Multiplayer is being developed for the game.<br /> * All environments, including cover, can be destroyed.<br /> * Characters transform at any time with an easy and quick tap of the Left Analog stick. There is no &quot;cool down&quot; so players can transform as often and as freely as they wish.<br /> * The ability to create your own Transformers character for multiplayer. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.3news.co.nz/Transformers-War-for-Cybertron-trailer/tabid/418/articleID/144347/Default.aspx War For Cybertron trailer news at 3news.co.nz]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Production==<br /> <br /> As an early marketing campaign, the game's website included the feature &quot;Operation Transmission Recovery&quot;: using transmission and coordinate dials, you could pick up &quot;transmissions&quot; from Cybertron (or &quot;video clips&quot; to you and me). <br /> <br /> The art and design team did intense research (i.e. watched the original cartoon, looked at comics, and watched &quot;typical sci-fi cool stuff&quot; like ''Blade Runner'') to work out the aesthetic of Cybertron; lead artist [[Ivan Power]] remarked that the original cartoon was the main inspiration, and that Cybertron wasn't shown there so they had to rewatch the same few clips &quot;over and over&quot;. While many of the city designs are elaborate and shiny, Decepticon [[Kaon]] was deliberately designed to be sharp-edged, rusting, and slapped together to show the Decepticons weren't interested in building a functioning society. &lt;ref&gt;[http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/21/transformers-art-video.aspx Game Informer: Behind the Art of War for Cybertron]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Operation Transmission Recovery==<br /> <br /> As an early marketing campaign, the game's website included the feature &quot;Operation Transmission Recovery&quot;: using transmission and coordinate dials, you could pick up &quot;transmissions&quot; from Cybertron (or &quot;video clips/images&quot; to you and me).<br /> <br /> There are two dials, blue (outer) and yellow (inner). Using your mouse, you can drag the dial to set coordinates. The blue dial is set by aligning it to marks on the outer circle. When aligned, it becomes a blue ring. After that, the yellow dial is set so that signal strength is full, as indicated by a meter on the right. Once a transmission is unlocked its symbol lights up and the &quot;Total Recovered&quot; amount increases a little bit. When you reach 100%, it tells you how many hours remain until next batch. <br /> <br /> As of January 12, 2010, the following transmissions (Batch 9), almost all of which are part of the second trailer (link below), were available:<br /> <br /> {| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5<br /> | '''S. No.'''<br /> | '''Blue''' <br /> | '''Yellow'''<br /> | '''Type'''<br /> | '''Description'''<br /> |- <br /> | 1<br /> | 351<br /> | 327<br /> | Video<br /> | Game Trailer (unlocked by default).<br /> |-<br /> | 2<br /> | 018<br /> | 088<br /> | Video<br /> | Starscream flying.<br /> |-<br /> | 3<br /> | 018<br /> | 088<br /> | Image<br /> | Starscream standing.<br /> |-<br /> | 4<br /> | 029<br /> | 209<br /> | Video<br /> | Battle scene: Camera behind Autobots, Optimus is prominent.<br /> |-<br /> | 5<br /> | 040<br /> | 328<br /> | Image<br /> | Holographic map of Cybertron and its two moons.<br /> |-<br /> | 6<br /> | 051<br /> | 110<br /> | Image<br /> | Cybertron .<br /> |-<br /> | 7<br /> | 073<br /> | 190<br /> | Image<br /> | Optimus vs an average Decepticon.<br /> |-<br /> | 8<br /> | 085<br /> | 298<br /> | Video<br /> | Decepticon insignia (on Starscream).<br /> |-<br /> | 9<br /> | 096 <br /> | 347<br /> | Video<br /> | A bomb explosion on Cybertron's surface (possibly the same one which made a huge hole in it).<br /> |-<br /> | 10<br /> | 107<br /> | 035<br /> | Image<br /> | Megatron crushes cranial unit of a poor Autobot, Starscream is visible behind him, just before the ground assault.<br /> |-<br /> | 11<br /> | 120<br /> | 040<br /> | Image<br /> | Cybertron as seen from a moon.<br /> |-<br /> | 12<br /> | 140<br /> | 201<br /> | Image<br /> | Starscream flying towards Cybertron .<br /> |-<br /> | 13<br /> | 162<br /> | 359<br /> | Image<br /> | A red robot (Ironhide?).<br /> |-<br /> | 14<br /> | 173<br /> | 003<br /> | Image<br /> | A hall (Council of Autobot Elders?).<br /> |-<br /> | 15<br /> | 192<br /> | 147<br /> | Video<br /> | Injured Autobot, trying to get up .<br /> |-<br /> | 16<br /> | 203<br /> | 094<br /> | Video<br /> | Battle scene: Trypticon joins the battle as a burning asteroid (Entry mode) behind Decepticons and Autobots run towards it.<br /> |-<br /> | 17<br /> | 214<br /> | 004<br /> | Image<br /> | A city seen from a tunnel .<br /> |-<br /> | 18<br /> | 225<br /> | 199<br /> | Image<br /> | A city tower falling and hitting another tower.<br /> |-<br /> | 19<br /> | 265<br /> | 011<br /> | Image<br /> | Optimus Prime.<br /> |-<br /> | 20<br /> | 284<br /> | 021<br /> | Image<br /> | Megatron firing his gun (at YOU).<br /> |-<br /> | 21<br /> | 295<br /> | 249<br /> | Video<br /> | Optimus uses his axe on a Decepticon.<br /> |-<br /> | 22<br /> | 306<br /> | 041<br /> | Image<br /> | Cybertron as seen from another moon.<br /> |-<br /> | 23<br /> | 317<br /> | 081<br /> | Video<br /> | City skyline, camera moving down, some music in the background (start of the second trailer).<br /> |-<br /> | 24<br /> | 328<br /> | 221<br /> | Video<br /> | Battle scene: A missile hits a battlestation and an Autobot falls down from it.<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Toy tie-ins==<br /> [[Hasbro]] has confirmed that several toys will be made to tie into the promotion of the video game. These include figures of Optimus Prime, Megatron, and Bumblebee. At [[Toy Fair 2010]], they were confirmed to be part of the [[Generations (toyline)|''Generations'' toyline]].<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:WFC Optimus Prime toy.jpg<br /> Image:WFC Megatron toy.jpg<br /> Image:WFC Bumblebee toy.jpg<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://www.transformersgame.com/ Official site]<br /> *[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-debut-transformers-war/59860 Exclusive trailer via 'Game Trailers TV']<br /> *[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-gameplay-transformers-war/62343 Exclusive gameplay trailer via 'Game Trailers TV']<br /> *[http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/54929/transformers-war-for-cybertron/videos/transformerscyber_trl_revealtrailer_10710.html;jsessionid=8yroitu115mw Second, fuller trailer from IGN]<br /> *[http://gameinformer.com/mag/cybertron.aspx Behind the scenes bios and information from ''Game Informer'' magazine.]<br /> *[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gdc-10-transformers-war/62925 Civil War Story Interview at 'Game Trailers TV']<br /> *[http://www.allspark.com/content/view/6450/20/ Press release]<br /> <br /> [[Category: Video games]]</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* Characters */</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Transformerswarforcybertron.jpg|center|500px|]]<br /> <br /> '''''Transformers: War for Cybertron''''' is a video game developed by [[High Moon Studios]] and published by [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]], set before the Transformers take their war to [[Earth]]. [[Hasbro]] intends it to act as a foundation for ''[[Transformers brand| Transformers]]'' franchise storylines for years to come, and so they've been giving a lot of input and stressing character development.&lt;ref name=&quot;tfw2005&quot;&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/tfw2005-war-for-cybertron-interview-with-aaron-archer-and-matt-tieger-168910/ War for Cybertron interview with Aaron Archer and Matt Tieger @ TFW2005.com]&lt;/ref&gt; The upcoming book ''[[Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron]]'' may be a tie-in to the game and its fiction.<br /> <br /> Unlike previous ''Transformers'' video games which feature distinctly separate campaigns for the Autobots and the Decepticons (traditionally depicting the playable faction utterly defeating the other), ''War for Cybertron'' will feature a single, linear storyline; the Decepticon campaign occurs chronologically before the Autobot campaign, but [[Fandom|fans]] can play through them in whichever order they prefer.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.seibertron.com/news/index.php?f_keyword=war+for+cybertron Seibertron Q&amp;A with Activision]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> The game itself will be an over-the-shoulder third-person shooter in which the player can choose his character from a small roster of either Autobots or Decepticons. The game will be released on [[June 22]], [[2010]], for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, Nintendo Wii, Nintendo DS and personal computers. <br /> {{quote|One shall stand.|Optimus}}<br /> :{{quote|One shall fall.|Megatron}}<br /> <br /> ==Synopsis==<br /> <br /> [[Image:WarforCybertron-OptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|400px|Prime auditions for Unreal Tournament. There were no survivors.]]<br /> <br /> The game is set during the waning days of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] before coming to Earth. [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] is searching for a dangerous power source known as [[Dark Energon]] to fuel his conquest of the planet. [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] assumes temporary command following an attack on [[Iacon]] that killed [[Zeta Prime]], but he is not yet leader of the Autobots. [[Starscream]] joins the Decepticons as second-in-command, but does not consider either Optimus or Megatron to have the planet's best interests at heart. (We will apparently learn ''why'' Starscream is such a whopping traitor and why Megatron [[:Image:Infiltration6_takeyourpunishment.jpg|doesn't just]] [[:Image:Swordscream.JPG|kill him]]).<br /> <br /> ==Characters==<br /> At the start of each level, the player can choose from one of three characters. The characters available will shift from level to level. Known playable characters include:<br /> <br /> '''Autobots'''<br /> *[[Optimus_Prime_(G1)#War_for_Cybertron_video_game|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]]) ([http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/11/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-optimus-prime.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])<br /> *[[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] ([[Johnny Yong Bosch]]) &lt;ref&gt;[http://twitter.com/johnnyyongbosch/status/11686292590 Twitter post by Johnny Yong Bosch confirming his role as Bumblebee.]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *[[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]<br /> *[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]<br /> *[[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]]<br /> *[[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]<br /> *[[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]]<br /> *[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]<br /> *[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]<br /> *[[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]]<br /> *[[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] <br /> *[[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]]<br /> *[[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] (Best Buy preorder exclusive) &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;jsessionid=0BAF66FE711A7E74FCE4428DB954168C.bbolsp-app04-47?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&amp;_dynSessConf=4725946217004960156&amp;id=pcat17071&amp;type=page&amp;st=Transformers+War+for+Cybertron&amp;sc=Global&amp;cp=1&amp;nrp=15&amp;sp=&amp;qp=&amp;list=n&amp;iht=y&amp;usc=All+Categories&amp;ks=960 Bestbuy.com preorder page featuring a special Jazz trailer]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> '''Decepticons'''<br /> *[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/18/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-megatron.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])<br /> *[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/23/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-starscream.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])<br /> *[[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]<br /> *[[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]]<br /> *[[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]<br /> *[[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]]<br /> *[[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]]<br /> *[[Motormaster]] <br /> *[[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] (Gamestop preorder Multiplayer exclusive)<br /> *[[Demolishor (WFC)|Demolishor]] (Amazon.com preorder Multiplayer exclusive &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-War-Cybertron-Playstation-3/dp/B0030HM2WO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=videogames&amp;qid=1270579997&amp;sr=8-1 Amazon.com preorder page featuring a special Demolishor trailer]&lt;/ref&gt;, Play.com exclusive in UK)<br /> <br /> The Decepticon campaign includes a boss battle with [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] and the Autobot campaign includes defending [[Iacon]]. [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] appears in the IGN trailer, but he's, uh, probably not playable. Players should expect references to Cybertron locations taken from all previous Transformer stories, &quot;things which may have only been referenced once, in one comic way back when, could be used and expanded upon.&quot;&lt;ref name=&quot;tfw2005&quot;/&gt;<br /> <br /> ...They're totally reading the Wiki, aren't they? Hello, designers!<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-Bumblebee.jpg|Bumblebee fires his weapon.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-RatchetBumblebeePrime.jpg|Ratchet, Bumblebee, and Prime in battle.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-OmegaSupreme.jpg|Omega Supreme attacks a platoon of Decepticons.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-StarscreamMegatron.jpg|Starscream and Megatron get ready for the ground assault.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-StarscreamMegatronSoundwave.jpg|More Decepticons!<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-Soundwave.jpg|Soundwave sneaks around.<br /> Image:WfC-IGN-Trypticon.jpg|Oh Primus.<br /> Image:War for Cybertron Shockwave.jpg|Resistance really does seem to be futile. <br /> Image:WfC-Kutaku-Grimlock.jpg|Dynobot?<br /> <br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Features==<br /> * Campaigns will be co-op both online and off for the first time in a Transformers game.<br /> * All playable characters have two special abilities, such as absorbing health from enemies or marking targets.<br /> * The game will run on the Unreal engine.<br /> * High Moon is prepared to &quot;support the game after release,&quot; meaning either patches or downloadable content.<br /> * Online Multiplayer is being developed for the game.<br /> * All environments, including cover, can be destroyed.<br /> * Characters transform at any time with an easy and quick tap of the Left Analog stick. There is no &quot;cool down&quot; so players can transform as often and as freely as they wish.<br /> * The ability to create your own Transformers character for multiplayer. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.3news.co.nz/Transformers-War-for-Cybertron-trailer/tabid/418/articleID/144347/Default.aspx War For Cybertron trailer news at 3news.co.nz]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Production==<br /> <br /> As an early marketing campaign, the game's website included the feature &quot;Operation Transmission Recovery&quot;: using transmission and coordinate dials, you could pick up &quot;transmissions&quot; from Cybertron (or &quot;video clips&quot; to you and me). <br /> <br /> The art and design team did intense research (i.e. watched the original cartoon, looked at comics, and watched &quot;typical sci-fi cool stuff&quot; like ''Blade Runner'') to work out the aesthetic of Cybertron; lead artist [[Ivan Power]] remarked that the original cartoon was the main inspiration, and that Cybertron wasn't shown there so they had to rewatch the same few clips &quot;over and over&quot;. While many of the city designs are elaborate and shiny, Decepticon [[Kaon]] was deliberately designed to be sharp-edged, rusting, and slapped together to show the Decepticons weren't interested in building a functioning society. &lt;ref&gt;[http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/21/transformers-art-video.aspx Game Informer: Behind the Art of War for Cybertron]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Operation Transmission Recovery==<br /> <br /> As an early marketing campaign, the game's website included the feature &quot;Operation Transmission Recovery&quot;: using transmission and coordinate dials, you could pick up &quot;transmissions&quot; from Cybertron (or &quot;video clips/images&quot; to you and me).<br /> <br /> There are two dials, blue (outer) and yellow (inner). Using your mouse, you can drag the dial to set coordinates. The blue dial is set by aligning it to marks on the outer circle. When aligned, it becomes a blue ring. After that, the yellow dial is set so that signal strength is full, as indicated by a meter on the right. Once a transmission is unlocked its symbol lights up and the &quot;Total Recovered&quot; amount increases a little bit. When you reach 100%, it tells you how many hours remain until next batch. <br /> <br /> As of January 12, 2010, the following transmissions (Batch 9), almost all of which are part of the second trailer (link below), were available:<br /> <br /> {| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5<br /> | '''S. No.'''<br /> | '''Blue''' <br /> | '''Yellow'''<br /> | '''Type'''<br /> | '''Description'''<br /> |- <br /> | 1<br /> | 351<br /> | 327<br /> | Video<br /> | Game Trailer (unlocked by default).<br /> |-<br /> | 2<br /> | 018<br /> | 088<br /> | Video<br /> | Starscream flying.<br /> |-<br /> | 3<br /> | 018<br /> | 088<br /> | Image<br /> | Starscream standing.<br /> |-<br /> | 4<br /> | 029<br /> | 209<br /> | Video<br /> | Battle scene: Camera behind Autobots, Optimus is prominent.<br /> |-<br /> | 5<br /> | 040<br /> | 328<br /> | Image<br /> | Holographic map of Cybertron and its two moons.<br /> |-<br /> | 6<br /> | 051<br /> | 110<br /> | Image<br /> | Cybertron .<br /> |-<br /> | 7<br /> | 073<br /> | 190<br /> | Image<br /> | Optimus vs an average Decepticon.<br /> |-<br /> | 8<br /> | 085<br /> | 298<br /> | Video<br /> | Decepticon insignia (on Starscream).<br /> |-<br /> | 9<br /> | 096 <br /> | 347<br /> | Video<br /> | A bomb explosion on Cybertron's surface (possibly the same one which made a huge hole in it).<br /> |-<br /> | 10<br /> | 107<br /> | 035<br /> | Image<br /> | Megatron crushes cranial unit of a poor Autobot, Starscream is visible behind him, just before the ground assault.<br /> |-<br /> | 11<br /> | 120<br /> | 040<br /> | Image<br /> | Cybertron as seen from a moon.<br /> |-<br /> | 12<br /> | 140<br /> | 201<br /> | Image<br /> | Starscream flying towards Cybertron .<br /> |-<br /> | 13<br /> | 162<br /> | 359<br /> | Image<br /> | A red robot (Ironhide?).<br /> |-<br /> | 14<br /> | 173<br /> | 003<br /> | Image<br /> | A hall (Council of Autobot Elders?).<br /> |-<br /> | 15<br /> | 192<br /> | 147<br /> | Video<br /> | Injured Autobot, trying to get up .<br /> |-<br /> | 16<br /> | 203<br /> | 094<br /> | Video<br /> | Battle scene: Trypticon joins the battle as a burning asteroid (Entry mode) behind Decepticons and Autobots run towards it.<br /> |-<br /> | 17<br /> | 214<br /> | 004<br /> | Image<br /> | A city seen from a tunnel .<br /> |-<br /> | 18<br /> | 225<br /> | 199<br /> | Image<br /> | A city tower falling and hitting another tower.<br /> |-<br /> | 19<br /> | 265<br /> | 011<br /> | Image<br /> | Optimus Prime.<br /> |-<br /> | 20<br /> | 284<br /> | 021<br /> | Image<br /> | Megatron firing his gun (at YOU).<br /> |-<br /> | 21<br /> | 295<br /> | 249<br /> | Video<br /> | Optimus uses his axe on a Decepticon.<br /> |-<br /> | 22<br /> | 306<br /> | 041<br /> | Image<br /> | Cybertron as seen from another moon.<br /> |-<br /> | 23<br /> | 317<br /> | 081<br /> | Video<br /> | City skyline, camera moving down, some music in the background (start of the second trailer).<br /> |-<br /> | 24<br /> | 328<br /> | 221<br /> | Video<br /> | Battle scene: A missile hits a battlestation and an Autobot falls down from it.<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Toy tie-ins==<br /> [[Hasbro]] has confirmed that several toys will be made to tie into the promotion of the video game. These include figures of Optimus Prime, Megatron, and Bumblebee. At [[Toy Fair 2010]], they were confirmed to be part of the [[Generations (toyline)|''Generations'' toyline]].<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:WFC Optimus Prime toy.jpg<br /> Image:WFC Megatron toy.jpg<br /> Image:WFC Bumblebee toy.jpg<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://www.transformersgame.com/ Official site]<br /> *[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-debut-transformers-war/59860 Exclusive trailer via 'Game Trailers TV']<br /> *[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-gameplay-transformers-war/62343 Exclusive gameplay trailer via 'Game Trailers TV']<br /> *[http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/54929/transformers-war-for-cybertron/videos/transformerscyber_trl_revealtrailer_10710.html;jsessionid=8yroitu115mw Second, fuller trailer from IGN]<br /> *[http://gameinformer.com/mag/cybertron.aspx Behind the scenes bios and information from ''Game Informer'' magazine.]<br /> *[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gdc-10-transformers-war/62925 Civil War Story Interview at 'Game Trailers TV']<br /> *[http://www.allspark.com/content/view/6450/20/ Press release]<br /> <br /> [[Category: Video games]]</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* Revenge of the Fallen movie */</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobotfilm|NEST}}<br /> {{disambig3|Bumblebee}}<br /> :''Bumblebee is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]]. He is also known as '''N.B.E.-02'''.''<br /> <br /> [[Image:TF-Alliance03 Cover Nizzi.jpg|right|300px|thumb|&quot;Groovy, bee-otch!&quot;]]<br /> '''Bumblebee''' is one of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]'s most trusted lieutenants. Although he is not the strongest or most powerful of the Autobots, Bumblebee more than makes up for this with a bottomless well of luck, determination and bravery. He would gladly give his life to protect others and stop the [[Decepticon|Decepticons]].<br /> <br /> Badly damaged in battle, Bumblebee lost the ability to speak verbally, though he can still communicate over inter-Autobot frequencies (in a fashion that seems somewhat akin to instant messaging, a usable but more distant and less personal means of interaction).<br /> <br /> {{quote|[[William Lennox|You]] wanna lay the fate of the world on [[Sam Witwicky|the kid]]'s Camaro? That's cool.|[[Seymour Simmons|Agent Simmons]]|[[Transformers (2007)]]}}<br /> <br /> :''Spanish name:'' '''Abejorro''' (&quot;Bumblebee&quot;)<br /> :''Mandarin name:'' '''Dà Huáng-fēng''' (大黃蜂, &quot;Bumblebee&quot;)<br /> :''Cantonese name:'' '''Daai Wong Fung''' (大黃蜂, &quot;Bumblebee&quot;)<br /> :''Hungarian name:'' '''Űrdongó''' (&quot;Space Bumblebee&quot;)<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===<br /> [[Image:Defiance1_Cliffjumper_Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|left|300px|&quot;Tell Hasbro that [[Cliffjumper (disambiguation)|I]] don't want to be a [[repaint]] of [[Bumblebee (disambiguation)|you]] anymore!&quot;]]<br /> <br /> Many years in the past, Bumblebee and [[Cliffjumper (Movie)|Cliffjumper]] were guardians of the [[AllSpark (Movie)|All Spark]] at the Temple of [[Simfur]]. One day, Bumblebee wondered aloud why Optimus and Lord High Protector [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] were out investigating the nearby excavation site when the All Spark was &quot;freaking&quot; out with energy spikes. Cliffjumper assured him that whatever Optimus and the others were investigating, it must have been important, then reminded his colleague that they had their duties. When Bumblebee admitted nerves, Cliffjumper said that the two of them could handle anything, and just to let trouble come to them. He would soon regret those words when aliens attacked Simfur. They were seeking cover inside the temple when Lord Megatron swooped in, berated them for not taking the fight to the enemy and destroyed their opponent. He then told commander [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] to keep the lowly security guards out of the way of the military. {{storylink|Defiance issue 1}}<br /> <br /> Bumblebee was concerned this was the start of something ''big'', to which Cliffjumper agreed, but he felt that as little cogs in the great machine, all they needed to do was stand guard. [[Prowl (Movie)|Prowl]] advised them to stay at their posts and report to him of any unusual activity from the All Spark during the battle. {{Storylink|Defiance issue 2}}<br /> <br /> [[Image:Defiance3_Optimus_Bumblebee_orders.jpg|thumb|300px|Well, that's one way to make a first impression.]]<br /> <br /> After [[The Fallen|the relic]] informed Megatron of Optimus' break and enter of his personal quarters, Bumblebee, [[Smokescreen (Movie)|Smokescreen]], Cliffjumper, [[Camshaft (Movie)|Camshaft]], [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] and Prowl were sent to the ruins near [[Burthov]] to arrest Optimus ''Prime's'' party on trumped-up charges of treason. When Optimus angrily demanded to know just what he had done to be charged with treason, Bumblebee pointed his weapon at the science leader and said they were just following orders, which seemed to satisfy Optimus. What the security officers didn't know was they were being led into a trap, and soldiers loyal to Megatron were under orders to eliminate all but Optimus. After being hit by an explosive round, the group banded together, realising they had all been marked for death. Optimus ordered them to flee to Burthov while he took care of Starscream's group personally. {{storylink|Defiance issue 3}}<br /> <br /> [[Image:Defiance_Bumblebee_vehiclemodes.jpg|thumb|left|300px|My alt-mode is Pac-Man!]]<br /> <br /> While on an apparent scouting mission, Bumblebee and [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] discovered the ''[[Nemesis (ROTF)|Nemesis]]'' while it was under construction and reported their findings back to Prowl. Then Bumblebee transformed into a ball and Arcee transformed into a hover-bike and they both headed back to base. When the ''Nemesis'' was completed, Bumblebee and Arcee were there once again to witness the majority of the Decepticon forces board and take off for parts unknown to them.<br /> <br /> With the bulk of the war-like Decepticons gone into space, the Autobots were able to hold their own in their resistance to Megatron's rule, but the war was ever-escalating in intensity, leading to increasing casualties and devastation to Cybertron. When it was clear to Optimus Prime that the conflict was locked in a stalemate, he made the desperate decision to capture the All Spark and launch it into space. This decision took Bumblebee by surprise, but he supported Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Defiance issue 4}}<br /> <br /> [[Image:MovieMegatron Bumblebee torture comic.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Megatron's attempt at a &quot;Give me your arm!&quot; meme didn't really take off...]]<br /> <br /> During the raid to capture the All Spark, Bumblebee commanded the Autobot forces at [[Tyger Pax]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] attempting to hold the [[Decepticon]]s off while the All Spark was launched off-planet. He succeeded, but Megatron crushed his voice box, and he lost his ability to speak in the process. {{storylink|Defiance issue 4}}{{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 1|Prime Directive issue 1}} [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] has been having trouble fixing it ever since. Bumblebee was declared a hero for his actions, but he feared that all they had done was potentially spread their war to other worlds. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 1|Prime Directive issue 1}}<br /> <br /> Later, he was the first to track the All Spark to [[Earth]], making planetfall in 2003. Here, he learned to express his emotions by tuning in appropriately emotive music on his car radio. Though the clandestine [[human]] organization [[Sector Seven]] tracked his descent and secured the area in [[Virginia]] where he landed, his quick assumption of a local alternate mode disguise allowed him to escape via Interstate 64. Bumblebee's search for the All Spark began in St. Louis, Missouri, where he used a remote link to a coffee shop computer to search [[Shwiggle]] for any signs of extra-terrestrial sightings. There, he discovered the legend of the [[Ice Man]], and the story of Captain [[Archibald Witwicky]]. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 3|Prime Directive issue 3}}<br /> <br /> Bumblebee's quest took him to [[Baton Rouge]], Louisiana, where Captain Witwicky had been committed. First he visited the ruins of the long-abandoned [[Psychopathic Institute for the Long-Term Insane]], Witwicky's final home. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 4|Prime Directive issue 4}} From there, Bumblebee headed into downtown, where he scanned the records of Captain Witwicky from an unnamed [[asylum]]. This action unfortunately put Sector Seven onto his trail.<br /> <br /> The Baton Rouge clues led Bumblebee to [[Springfield]], Missouri, in search of Witwicky's son [[Clarence Witwicky|Clarence]]. En route, he evaded the first of several attacks by Sector Seven. In Springfield, he found records of Clarence's descendants, and started out to track them down. The oldest son, [[Ben Witwicky|Ben]], had resided in Denver, Colorado, but the trail ended there. En route to his next stop in Tucson, Bumblebee was again attacked by Sector Seven, evading their helicopters by blinding them and rocketing off at high speed. Not long after, he was attacked by [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] in the desert. {{storylink|Interlude}}<br /> <br /> Damaged and smoking, Bumblebee stopped by the roadside to rest and recover. Suddenly detecting a burst of All Spark energy, he continued onwards out of Colorado. In New Mexico, as he approached the source of the All Spark energy, he came under attack once again from Barricade. Other Decepticons, meanwhile, attacked the energy source and found it to be a Sector Seven ruse. Bumblebee managed to escape Barricade again, though unbeknownst to him the Decepticons let him go so that they could track him. Eventually, his search took him to [[Tranquility]], [[Nevada]], {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 4|Prime Directive issue 4}} where he would soon encounter [[Sam Witwicky]].<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers: Beginnings''===<br /> :''Voice actor:'' [[Mark Ryan]]<br /> <br /> [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] entrusted Bumblebee with the secret that the All Spark would be sent into deep space to prevent Lord Megatron from possessing and corrupting it. Just after the launch, Megatron attacked Bumblebee in rage at losing the All Spark and shattered the Autobot's voice capacitor beyond repair. <br /> <br /> Bumblebee arrived on Earth and, sensing the AllSpark was near, took on local camouflage to search for the artifact. He immediately attracted the attention of Sector Seven agents and the Decepticons. {{storylink|Transformers: Beginnings}}<br /> <br /> {{note|Transformers: Beginnings is a condensed, flash-animated retelling of the [[IDW]] [[Prime Directive (IDW)|Prime Directive]] Movie Prequel that is detailed above this section.}}<br /> <br /> ===''Ghosts of Yesterday'' prequel novel===<br /> Between Tyger Pax and his arrival on Earth, Bumblebee and the rest of the [[Ark (Movie)|''Ark'']] crew encountered some humans in deep space and got their first clues to where Megatron and the All Spark rested. Bumblebee discovered a human shuttle, the Ghost 1, which had been made by reverse-engineering from Megatron's body. He was attacked by Starscream and escaped. Attacked by giant, metal-eating worms, he was ultimately saved by Optimus Prime. Bumblebee participated in the final battle against the Decepticons. {{storylink|Ghosts of Yesterday}}<br /> <br /> {{charstubfiction}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers'' (2007) film===<br /> :''Voice actor:'' [[Mark Ryan]] (English), [[Hiroshi Iwasaki]] (Japan radio voice) [[Akio Kato]] (Japan normal voice), [[Helmut Gauß]] (German)<br /> <br /> [[Image:Movie2007 Bumblebee dealership.jpg|left|250px|thumb|The old old and the new old.]]<br /> Bumblebee, having made his way to a second-rate car dealership, became [[Sam Witwicky]]'s first car. Sam's father promised his son a car if Sam paid half of the money and achieved three A's in school. After doing so with the help of his genealogy project, Sam rode with [[Ron Witwicky|his father]] to [[Bolivia's Finest Quality Used Cars and Petting Zoo|a car lot with an exceedingly long name]]. Following them to the lot, Bumblebee quietly placed himself among the other cars. To prevent Sam from having to choose another car, he used a high-frequency sound wave to blow out the windows of every other car in the lot, leaving [[Bobby Bolivia]] with no choice but to sell Bumblebee to the Witwickys.<br /> <br /> The next day, Sam and his friend [[Miles Lancaster]] drove Bumblebee down to the lake in a misguided attempt to impress the popular girls at a party. Observing the exchange of thinly veiled insults between Sam and the football jocks, Bumblebee decided to help out Sam when the boy noticed [[Mikaela Banes]] walking home after a falling-out with her now ex-boyfriend. Playing &quot;Drive&quot; on his radio, Bumblebee inspired Sam to kick Miles out and drive Mikaela home. As the two awkwardly chatted, Bumblebee suddenly turned off his engine when they neared a romantic spot overlooking the city, this time playing &quot;Sexual Healing&quot; and &quot;I Feel Good&quot;. Not knowing his car has a mind of its own, Sam misinterpreted this as a breakdown. Mikaela attempted to fix Bumblebee with her mechanical know-how, only to leave after Sam asked her why she tolerated jerks like her ex-boyfriend. Trying to help as much as he could, Bumblebee allowed Sam to start up his engine as she walked away, this time playing &quot;Baby, Come Back&quot;. Arriving at Mikaela's house, Sam advanced a step towards her by stating that he didn't believe her to be shallow at all, that there was &quot;more than meets the eye&quot; with her. After she left, Sam quietly enthused that he loved his car.<br /> <br /> [[Image:Movie2007 Bumblebee firstsighting.jpg|right|250px|thumb|One of the clearer shots in the film.]]<br /> Later that night, Bumblebee drove off by himself with Sam in hot pursuit, believing it to be a car theft. Unwittingly leading his human owner to a junkyard, Bumblebee transformed and activated his communications beacon, requesting assistance from Optimus Prime and the other Autobots. Unknown to him, Sam had seen his robot form and run off, and was now being being pursued by the junkyard's two guard dogs. Bumblebee came to Sam's aid, scaring off the dogs, but had to escape when the police (whom Sam had previously summoned when Bumblebee drove away from his house) arrived to arrest Sam for breaking into the junkyard. <br /> <br /> The next day, Bumblebee drove back to the Witwicky house sometime after Sam had been bailed out by his dad. Frightened and confused, Sam rode away from what he dubbed &quot;[[Unicron|Satan]]'s Camaro&quot;, ending up in the city and encountering Mikaela in front of a Burger King. Bumblebee followed Sam towards an industrial area, not realizing that the Decepticon [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] was stalking the boy, intent on finding glasses belonging to [[Archibald Witwicky|Sam's ancestor]], which Sam had been auctioning on [[eBay]] Sam ran away from the attacking Decepticon and literally ran into Mikaela after she had followed him. As Barricade bore down on the pair, Bumblebee suddenly appeared, knocking the Decepticon off his feet, then drove the humans away as Barricade gave chase.<br /> <br /> [[Image:Movie Bumblebee winner.jpg|left|250px|thumb|YOU BIG WINNER, HAHAHA.]]<br /> Racing through dilapidated factories and warehouses, Bumblebee eventually arrived at a deserted chemical plant on the outskirts of town. There he waited until Barricade's back was turned before dumping Sam and Mikaela out of his passenger side door, then transforming into robot mode to protect his friends. Barricade transformed and attacked, hitting Bumblebee with his tire spikes and knocking the Autobot into a chemical tank. In retaliation, Bumblebee grabbed Barricade and threw him into an electrical substation, seriously damaging the Decepticon and putting him into stasis lock. After Sam and Mikaela took care of [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]], Bumblebee introduced himself to them entirely through the use of his radio, explaining that it was the only way he could communicate, that he was an alien, and that Sam had witnessed him calling to his friends the previous night. Transforming back into vehicle mode, Bumblebee invited his friends to enter (which they did after a brief hesitation) and began to drive them to nearby [[Griffith Observatory]].<br /> <br /> [[Image:Movie Bumblebee Mikaela observatory.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Still think I'm a piece of crap, lady?]]<br /> On the way, Mikaela (who had refused to sit in the driver's seat, as Bumblebee was driving), rhetorically asked Sam that if Bumblebee was a super-advanced robot, why did he turn into a piece-of-crap Camaro? Mildly insulted, Bumblebee stopped in the middle of a packed tunnel and forced the humans out, then drove away. As Sam lamented the fact that &quot;four thousand dollars just drove away&quot;, Bumblebee passed another car and scanned it, driving back to the pair as a sleek and shiny 2009 Camaro. Amazed and impressed, Sam and Mikaela got back in, and Bumblebee continued their journey to the observatory. Arriving, the humans observed as the other Autobots entered the Earth's atmosphere and crash-landed in various parts of the city.<br /> <br /> Bumblebee then took his friends to a secluded alleyway, where Sam and Mikaela met the other Autobots. Introducing themselves, Sam learned that Bumblebee was his guardian and that the Autobot's vocal processors had been damaged in battle. [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] was still working on them as he fired a regenerative plasma beam&lt;ref name=&quot;Orci&quot;&gt;[http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showthread.php?t=12054 Post-movie Q&amp;A with screenwriters Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman]&lt;/ref&gt; at the damaged area. [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] explained that their mission was to find the [[AllSpark (Movie)|All Spark]], and that Sam Witwicky was the key due to his grandfather discovering [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] on an Arctic voyage. <br /> <br /> [[Image:Movie BumblebeeCC guardian.jpg|left|250px|thumb|I may be your guardian, but I will not carry you through a crowd to the music of Whitney Houston.]]<br /> Arriving at the Witwicky residence, Bumblebee attempted to convince his comrades to remain out of sight while Sam was talking to his father. When Sam and Mikaela were captured by [[Sector Seven]], Bumblebee helped rescue them. The interrogation of [[Seymour Simmons|Agent Simmons]] went nowhere, however, and Bumblebee became so annoyed with his attitude that he released lubricant onto the agent. Soon, Sector Seven reinforcements arrived, intent on recapturing the kids and any &quot;N.B.E.s&quot; they could get their hands on. Optimus Prime tried to protect Sam and Mikaela as they hid under a bridge, but both almost fell to their deaths when they slipped. Bumblebee raced forward, transforming and catching them in mid-air. Unfortunately, this also gave Sector Seven a clear and obvious target for them to attack. Firing harpoon cables from helicopters, the clandestine human organization dragged Bumblebee to the ground, and its soldiers began to freeze the helpless Autobot, who reached out to Sam. The boy broke free from an agent's grip, pushing the soldiers aside until he was tackled by several agents and taken away. Though [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] objected to allowing Sector Seven to leave with their friend, Optimus Prime ordered his troops to stand down, as there was no way to save the prisoners without incurring human casualties.<br /> <br /> [[Image:Movie2007 Bumblebee AllSpark.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Also available in pocket size.]]<br /> Taken to [[Hoover Dam]], Bumblebee was continually doused with cryoblasts to keep him docile and inert as Sector Seven performed experiments on him. Sam and Mikaela (with some armed persuasion from [[William Lennox|Captain Lennox]]) convinced Sector Seven to release Bumblebee. Upon his release, Bumblebee converted to battle mode and almost lashed out at his human oppressors until Sam calmed him down, informing him of the presence of the All Spark and Megatron in the facility, and that the Decepticons were coming for both. Following the humans to the All Spark's chamber, Bumblebee hesitantly reached out to the life source of his people and reformatted it, shrinking the cube until it was a size that the humans could manipulate. Bumblebee and a military escort fled to [[Mission City]], meeting the Autobots en route.<br /> <br /> Soon after they arrived at the city, [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] appeared. Recognizing the Decepticon, [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] and Bumblebee lifted up an abandoned truck in order to shield the humans from any collateral damage Starscream's attack would inevitably bring. One of the Decepticon's missiles struck the truck, sending both Autobots flying, with Bumblebee landing in a store front. The attack tore off Bumblebee's legs and left him barely functional, as Sam discovered to his horror when Bumblebee crawled from the wreckage. Soon, the other Decepticons arrived, led by Megatron, and the remaining Autobots were engaged. Mikaela and Sam hoisted Bumblebee onto a abandoned tow truck, but refused to leave his side. The Autobot silently handed his friend the All Spark, trusting the fate of his people into the boy's hands, and urged him to run while he still could. As Sam ran off, Mikaela drove Bumblebee away from the fighting to relative safety.<br /> <br /> [[Image:Movie2007_Sam_Mikaela_makingoutonBumblebee.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Why? Just.....why?]]<br /> <br /> However, she was soon overcome with guilt for leaving Sam and the battle. With Bumblebee's assent, she turned the truck around and headed back in. As Mikaela drove down the street in reverse, Bumblebee activated his weapon systems, then fired his [[plasma cannon]] and missiles at [[Brawl (Movie)|Devastator]], who was pinning down Captain Lennox and the rest of the combined Ranger/Sector Seven soldiers. His contribution was the deciding factor, confusing Devastator enough for the soldiers to counterattack, and the Decepticon was destroyed at last when Bumblebee's final cannon blast pierced his spark. Bumblebee was rather pleased with himself, and Mikaela complimented his shooting.<br /> <br /> After the destruction of Megatron and the All Spark, Bumblebee (who had regained his voice&lt;ref name=&quot;Orci&quot;&gt;[http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showthread.php?t=12054 Post-movie Q&amp;A with screenwriters Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman]&lt;/ref&gt; requested permission to remain with Sam, to which the young man agreed. After his legs were repaired, he allowed Sam and Mikaela to make out on top of him as the other Autobots watched. {{storylink|Transformers (2007)|Transformers}}<br /> <br /> It was the best day ever. Well, maybe not for Jazz.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Titan Magazines ''Transformers'' movie comics===<br /> {{notetitantlg}}<br /> In an alternate reality, it was the crappiest day ever because Sam failed and was killed, and Megatron went on to conquer much of the Earth. Bumblebee liked to believe that there was a universe out there in which Megatron lost. <br /> <br /> [[Image:Titan MikaelaBumblebee.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Why is he apologizing, you ask? Look where his left hand is.]]<br /> <br /> Bumblebee and Mikaela went on to become old comrades in guerrilla warfare, and in 2008 went on a mission to rescue Optimus Prime from a Decepticon bunker in Denver. Bumblebee, now with missile launchers in car mode and increased physical strength, took out the bunker guard, [[Swindle (Movie)|Swindle]], (nearly crushing Mikaela by accident—&quot;My bad.&quot;) and found Prime...or what was left of him. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 9|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 1}} Now stuck in the base, Bumblebee was being hunted by [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 10|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 2}}, and baited into revealing himself when the tyrant threatened to kill Mikaela. Bumblebee made a desperate attack, only to be beaten aside with ease. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 11|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 3}} <br /> <br /> Despite his defeat, he remained defiant to the end and refused to beg for mercy. Luckily the Autobot reinforcements arrived; unluckily, they couldn't stop Megatron; luckily again, Mikaela had revived Optimus Prime to save them {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 12|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 4}} and arrived with Phase Two of their plan, a Sector Seven nanovirus that targeted All Spark energy. Plugging it to himself, Bumblebee charged at the super-powered Megatron and forcibly uploaded the nano-virus, killing the tyrant once and for all. Not that he patted himself on the back over this, for he knew too well that this just left a [[Starscream (Movie)|power vacuum]]... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 13|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 5}}<br /> <br /> Still partnered with Mikaela near the Savannah, Georgia refugee camp post-occupation, Bumblebee appeared frustrated with how the humans were frightened of him and, to be listened to, Mikaela had to do the talking for him. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 14}} They went back into battle again to end a [[NATO]] bombardment of the Autobots in Savannah, running a gauntlet of tanks and [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercrackers]] before freeing the NATO field commander from Decepticon mind control. During the course of the battle he roasted a drone with fiery exhaust. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 15|Aftermath Part 2}}<br /> <br /> Following this battle, Bumblebee was involved in many clashes with Decepticons to protect human infrastructure, including leading a small group to protect an oil pipeline in Alaska. [[Armorhide (Movie)|Armorhide]] did not follow orders well. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 16|Dark Spark}}<br /> <br /> [[Image:Bumblebeehandlesthis.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Yes, you ''did'' see this happen.]]<br /> <br /> Following ''that'', he was sent with Arcee and Armorhide to Cybertron, under Ironhide's command. The mission was to retrieve [[Nucleon]]. Bumblebee was ordered to do recon and discovered a strange satellite dish, but investigating it saw the team jumped by [[Stockade (Movie)|Stockade]]. Then a strange energy anomaly appeared in orbit, and when Bumblebee asked what it was, Stockade babbled &quot;BLBLBLBLBBL!&quot;. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 17|Return to Cybertron: Part 1}} Bumblebee's subsequent attempt at dialogue (after first convincing Ironhide to stop throwing his face at Stockade's fists) was more successful, finding out the anomaly was a living entity the Decepticons had deliberately summoned, believing it would rejuvenate Cybertron.<br /> <br /> Not trusting this entity and wanting to stop all the Nucleon being used up, Bumblebee organised the Autobots to create a distraction while he snuck around and turned the Nucleon transfer off. He also intended to send a message to Optimus, and considering [[Unicron|the entity was Unicron the Anti-Life]], it's a good thing he did. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 18|Return to Cybertron: Part 2}} In the resulting chaos, Bumblebee had [[Divebomb (Movie)|Divebomb]] barge past him, had to rescue Ironhide from rubble, and found out the guy wanted to stop Unicron by destroying the world. He wasn't having a good day. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 19|Return to Cybertron: Part 3}}<br /> <br /> The day improved when Optimus arrived with a better plan: Cut off the Nucleon that Unicron's body was using for power. Bumblebee and Armorhide were dispatched to drain the Nucleon seam. This took too long, though, so Ratchet came up with a quicker alternative. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 20|Return to Cybertron: Part 4}}<br /> <br /> [[Image:Titan MikaelaBumblebeereunion.jpg|left|200px|thumb|OTP!]]<br /> <br /> Upon returning to Earth, the Autobots found the Decepticons had pinched their base and all 600 square miles around it. They retreated, leaving Mikaela in Decepticon hands; Bumblebee was distraught over this. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 21|Hard Target}} He would be part of the raid to get her back, knowing and ignoring that it was an obvious trap due to how much they owed Mikaela. The raid was successful and the two were reunited, awwww! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 22|The Decepticon Who Haunted Himself}}<br /> <br /> It didn't last long, with the Decepticon-blackmailed American government ordering the Autobots out; Bumblebee got dispatched with Ironhide on a mission related to this. The next day, Bumblebee got one last hour with Mikaela (and to beat up [[Dropkick]] as an &quot;up yours&quot; gesture) before joining the Autobots in departing... ''and then they got nuked!'' {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 23|Revolution Part 1}}<br /> <br /> Optimus had anticipated this though, and the Autobots faked their deaths with a decoy ship. Bumblebee, however, couldn't tell Mikaela this due to a decision to minimise any possible exposure. He was part of the spearhead team on return to Earth, intended to raise the Decepticon Heartland and teleport all the enemy there to the dead Cybertron. Mikaela was ''not'' happy to see him back, feeling they'd kept the plan from her because they didn't fully trust her to not be captured; Bumblebee tried to deny this.<br /> <br /> In the final battle, Bumblebee 'tagged' Megatron and so is responsible for the tyrant being exiled forever—third time lucky!<br /> <br /> In the aftermath, after it became clear the Autobots had just exiled ''themselves'' to Earth forever—&quot;Hey, there are worse fates,&quot; said Bumblebee—Mikaela forgave Bumblebee. Both had a lot of clean-up work to do, but also a brave new world to explore together...!{{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 25|Revolution Part 3}}<br /> <br /> ===Real World===<br /> At some point, Bumblebee let his guard down and the Decepticons took advantage by taking out an Autobot communications hub. He apologized for his lapse. {{storylink|Transformers: Rise of the Chevy Autobots}}<br /> <br /> ===Toy bios===<br /> {{notemoviebio}}<br /> <br /> Bumblebee and [[Hardtop (Movie)|Hardtop]], as two opposing elite spies, have crossed paths many times across the galaxy in a grueling test of endurance. Lately Hardtop has been taking this rivalry very personally, turning it into a vendetta. It was a crack shot by Hardtop that damaged Bumblebee's vocal processors, causing the Autobot pain when he tries to speak. {{storylink|Hardtop (Movie)#Transformers (2007)|Hardtop}}<br /> <br /> During the [[Mission City]] battle, Bumblebee required assistance and had to be towed to safety by [[Longarm (Movie)|Longarm]]. {{storylink|Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Deluxe Class toys|Towed to Safety}}<br /> <br /> With the initial threat over, Bumblebee decided to kick back and relax. Transcanning a rally car, he began hanging around at race tracks, pitting himself against the human racers. {{storylink|Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Fast Action Battlers|Rally Rocket Bumblebee}} <br /> <br /> He would later be sent on a mop-up duty, hunting [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] across the [[Middle East]]. {{storylink|Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Legend Class toys|Bumblebee vs. Scorponok}} <br /> <br /> Eventually, with pictures of him all over the internet, Bumblebee found to his discomfort that ''everyone'' recognised him... including newly arriving Decepticons, which put Sam and others in danger! With Mikaela's help, Bumblebee recoloured himself to help restore his disguise and make it easier to sneak up on the enemy. {{storylink|Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Deluxe Class toys|Stealth Bumblebee}}<br /> <br /> ===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===<br /> [[Image:Alliance2_Bumblebee_takecove-rrk.jpg|thumb|left|250px|&quot;Why do they always aim for the throat!?&quot;]]<br /> <br /> Shortly after the battle in [[Mission City]], Bumblebee's injuries were tended to by Ratchet while Ironhide and Captain Lennox's men searched for the creatures inadvertently created by the All Spark's energy. After his legs were attached, he rolled out with the Autobots to escape Sector Seven's inquiries. A month later, when asked by Lennox, Optimus Prime informed the human that Bumblebee had resumed his role as Sam Witwicky's protector. {{storylink|Alliance issue 1}}<br /> <br /> [[Image:Alliance3_Ironhide_Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|200px|&quot;I see dead people, I mean it, look there's one right over there.&quot;]]<br /> <br /> Bumblebee accompanied the other Autobots to escort the convoy transporting the dead Decepticons to a navy base in [[California|San Diego, California]], where they would be taken out to sea and dumped. Optimus Prime gave the surviving All Spark sliver to [[Professor Vine]] of Sector Seven, but after deciding this was a bad idea later on, he sent Ironhide and Bumblebee back to the [[Nevada]] facility to retrieve it. Bumblebee raced ahead and arrived to inadvertently save [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]'s life by disarming the revived [[Wreckage (Movie)|Wreckage]]. A grateful Starscream shot Bumblebee as he was protecting the humans, {{storylink|Alliance issue 2}} leaving his vocal processor damaged. Though Ironhide praised him for his bravery and selflessness, Bumblebee regretted not being able to save everybody. By the time the Navy and the Autobots were out at sea to bury Jazz and dump the Decepticon corpses, Ratchet had repaired Bumblebee's body (giving him a modified vehicle mode in the process), but was evidently unable to fully restore his vocal processor. In an effort to prevent mistakes of the past occurring again and to protect Earth, the Autobots and the United States Military formed a special unit under Major Lennox and Optimus Prime's command. When the Decepticon [[Swindle (Movie)|Swindle]] was detected in [[San Francisco]], Bumblebee and the others rolled out from [[Diego Garcia]]. {{storylink|Alliance issue 3}}<br /> <br /> After Optimus Prime destroyed a surprised [[Dead End (Movie)|Dead End]], Bumblebee chased Swindle onto the deserted Golden Gate Bridge. Though cornered, the Decepticon was amused that they had sent his old nemesis Bumblebee against him, and quickly set to clobbering the Autobot. Major [[William Lennox|Lennox]] distracted the Decepticon, allowing Bumblebee to pay Swindle back for his inept attempt to torture him thousands of years ago. On the plane trip back to Diego Garcia, Lennox and Optimus agreed that Sam Witwicky would become the target of the Decepticons again, and that he ''must'' be protected. Bumblebee was chosen to act as Sam's guardian again, and before he left, Prime pressed upon him that the protection of the boy was his first priority. {{storylink|Alliance issue 4}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> {{charstubfiction}}<br /> {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 1}}<br /> <br /> ===''The Veiled Threat'' prequel novel===<br /> {{Note|The events of ''The Veiled Threat'' take place during [[IDW Publishing]]'s ''[[Alliance (comic)|Alliance]]'' comic.}}<br /> <br /> Bumblebee does not appear in the novel, but NEST personnel mention that he is guarding Sam Witwicky.<br /> <br /> {{storylink|The Veiled Threat}}<br /> <br /> ===Titan Magazines ''Revenge of the Fallen'' comics===<br /> <br /> [[Image:Titan2_BumblebeePOV.jpg|left|thumb|200px|[[Robo-Vision]]!]]<br /> <br /> His voice gone again, Bumblebee communicated by playing snippets of Earth songs. <br /> <br /> Bumblebee was driven by the Witwickys to [[Princeton University|Sam's college]], where he quietly endured their bickering while scanning everything around him for potential threats. When he picked up radio transmissions from two new Autobots, he drove off into battle, and saved [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] from being slaughtered by [[Ransack (ROTF)|the Decepticon Ransack]]. But with the villain threatening a long game, Bumblebee knew that here came trouble... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.2|Dogfight!}}<br /> <br /> Speaking of trouble, poor Bumblebee ended up as the twins' minder. You can guess how well ''that'' went... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.3|Learning Curve}}<br /> <br /> [[Image:Titan2-6_aimedatyourheart.jpg|right|thumb|There's only room for ''one'' kid-appeal character...]]<br /> <br /> Some time later, Bumblebee was hanging out in Sam's garage when he received an emergency call from [[Diego Garcia]]: the twins, now dangerous Decepticon turncoats, had abducted Sam! He tore out of the garage, tracked down the twins, and demanded they stop immediately. When they didn't, he launched suppressive fire and began ramming Skids, yelling ''&quot;let my people go-go!&quot;''. He soon had Sam free and the twins at gunpoint, ready to eliminate if necessary. However, partway into Mudflap's claims that they'd been framed and there was a bigger threat coming, [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] got the drop on Bumblebee and gunned him down... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.6|Outlaw Blues}}<br /> <br /> Clearly he got better, because he was around for the Fallen (see below) and later was sent back into the field to capture [[Reverb (ROTF)|Reverb]]. When Jolt messed the mission up, Bumblebee saved the day by ''ramming'' the bike head-on. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.9|Culture Shock}}<br /> <br /> [[Image:Titan10_Eppsandbee.jpg|left|thumb|210px|]]<br /> <br /> Later, with Lennox and his crew searching for [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seekers]], Bumblebee was left with only [[Robert Epps]] to to investigate an attack on Malmstrom Air Force Base and the disappearance of Optimus Prime. Epps worked out that Optimus had been victim of an electromagnetic bomb, and Bumblebee tracked his leader to where he was being held. (Poor Epps had to ride in Bumblebee jumping a ravine, and almost spewed up his breakfast) After locating Prime, they found he was a captive of the [[Free Men]] militia. At Epps command, Bumblebee hit the Free Men compound with his full firepowered, swiftly defeating the militia. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.10| Bring Me the Head of Optimus Prime}}<br /> <br /> He despatched three raw cadets (Jolt, [[Rollbar (ROTF)|Rollbar]], and [[Dune Runner (ROTF)|Dune Runner]]) to [[Death Valley]] for a survival exercise. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.11|Spare Parts!}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Revenge of the Fallen'' movie===<br /> :''Voice actor:'' [[Mark Ryan]] (dialogue cut from final movie)<br /> <br /> [[Image:ROTF Bumblebee overkill.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Hey, you're lucky. Back on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], I had to blow up ''whole [[city-state]]s'' to achieve objectives.]]<br /> Bumblebee was dozing in the Witwicky garage the day Sam was packing for [[Princeton University]] when he heard the boy scream out his name. Bumblebee drove through, transformed and started blasting away at [[Allspark Mutation|Allspark Mutations]] of the Witwicky kitchen appliances. [[Judy Witwicky]] was horrified that Bumblebee blew up much of their house, but he shrugged her off and went back into the garage. As firefighters and local police arrived, Sam and [[Mikaela Banes]] went inside the garage. Mikaela asked whether Bumblebee was still having voice problems, to which Sam replied the Autobot was just playing it up. Sam revealed he did not want Bumblebee to come to college as he wanted a normal life, and he couldn't do that with Bumblebee watching over him. Bumblebee was heartbroken and began crying, refusing to listen anymore.<br /> <br /> [[Image:ROTF Sam Bumblebee cry.jpg|thumb|right|250px|[[Humanization]] included.]]<br /> However, [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] was having difficulties with [[NEST]] director [[Theodore Galloway]], who believed protecting the human race required drawing away the Decepticons from Earth by making the Autobots leave. Optimus believed Sam would be a worthy ambassador to convince the [[President of the United States]] otherwise. Bumblebee picked up Sam from a frat party, only to get an unwanted passenger in [[Alice]]. Bumblebee knew something wasn't right about the girl interested in Sam, smashing her head against his dashboard, and dousing her in liquid to get rid of her. Bumblebee dropped Sam off to meet Optimus at a graveyard, where the boy turned down Optimus' offer.<br /> <br /> [[Image:ROTF Bumblebee vs Starscream.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Bring it, bee-yotches!]]<br /> When [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] returned from the dead, Bumblebee was deployed to rescue Sam, Mikaela and [[Leo Spitz]], driving away with the latter two while Optimus drove off with Sam. Optimus died protecting the boy, and Bumblebee took him with [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] to an abandoned prison where they would be safe. Following Optimus' death, [[The Fallen]] and a new army of Decepticons struck out across Earth and announced their existence, promising to leave if they were given Witwicky. Galloway shut down NEST and had the other Autobots placed under guard with orders to ship them back to [[Diego Garcia]], while a manhunt began for Sam. Bumblebee was now protecting a fugitive.<br /> <br /> [[Image:ROTF Bumblebee soar.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Team Autobot's blasting off again!]]<br /> That evening, Sam told Bumblebee he was responsible for Optimus's death, and would understand if Bumblebee hated him, but the little Autobot bore Sam no grudge, and promised that he would help in any way he could. When Sam announced that he would turn himself in, Bumblebee insisted that it would not help matters. Under Leo's suggestion, the group came to [[New York City]] to meet his internet rival, the Robo-Warrior. As it turned out, the Robo-Warrior was none other than Bumblebee's former lubrication post, [[Seymour Simmons]], who elaborated on evidence of the [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seekers]] that came to Earth before Megatron and the All Spark. Bumblebee watched from the sideline as the humans and [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] awoke [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]], who transported them to [[Egypt]], which unfortunately sent Bumblebee crash landing near Sam. Jetfire explained the origins of the [[Seven Primes]] and the treasons of [[The Fallen]], mentioning the [[Matrix of Leadership]], which Sam believed could be used to resurrect Optimus Prime. <br /> <br /> [[Image:ROTF Bumblebee twin bash.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Hey kids go play outside!]]<br /> Bumblebee continued his role as chauffeur, transporting the humans to [[Petra]], the supposed location of the [[Tomb of the Primes]]. However, Petra appeared to be a dead end, and the Twins got into an argument of why they were following Sam around, which, knowing the Twins, got violent. As their brawl threatened to crush the humans in the close quarters, Bumblebee picked his two subordinates up in each hand, slammed them together, and threw them out of the temple. However, the Twins' brawl had managed to unearth the Tomb of the Primes, and Bumblebee further opened the hole with his plasma cannon, where they found the Matrix...which instantly turned to dust. Oops. <br /> <br /> [[Image:ROTF movie BumblebeevsRampage.jpg|thumb|200px|Move your body Rampage! Yeah, like that, gymnastics are really easy when you have two legs. Oh wait...]]<br /> <br /> While heading back to Egypt, the Autobots came under [[Operation: Firestorm|assault]] by Starscream, and it was decided that Sam and Mikaela would take the Matrix dust to Prime's body while Bumblebee, Simmons, Leo, and the Twins would lead Starscream and the Decepticons away. When it became apparent that Starscream was no longer pursuing them, Bumblebee left to rejoin Sam. Heading to the abandoned town where Sam and Mikaela were, Bumblebee found that [[Ron Witwicky|Ron]] and [[Judy Witwicky]] had been captured by the Decepticons, and were being held by [[Rampage (ROTF)|Rampage]]. Noticing Bumblebee, Sam distracted the [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicon]] long enough for Bumblebee to jump him. While Bumblebee had Rampage on the ropes, [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] jumped Bumblebee, but the plucky Autobot managed to fight off Ravage and ''rip out his spine''. Ouch. With Ravage dispatched, Bumblebee managed to tear off Rampage's arms and distend his head. Bumblebee then tried to escort his charges to NEST's positon, but the heavy amount of fire convinced Sam to have Bumblebee to take his parents to safety, while he continued his quest to save Optimus. <br /> <br /> However, during Sam's flight to Optimus's body, Megatron caught up and blasted the boy, evidently killing him. Bumblebee returned to the scene with Sam's parents, and broke down in grief. However, the human miraculously survived the attack, and with the reformed Matrix of Leadership, resurrected Optimus Prime. Together, the assembled Autobots and humans watched as Optimus combined with the remains of Jetfire, destroyed the harvester and killed The Fallen. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Toy bios===<br /> <br /> {{notemoviebio}}<br /> <br /> After the discovery of new Decepticons on Earth, Bumblebee decided to upgrade his arsenal and modified his vehicle mode so he could use weaponry in it, deciding he'd been caught off guard too many times before. {{storylink|Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Deluxe Class toys 2|Cannon Bumblebee}} <br /> <br /> Following this, he volunteered to be Sam's guardian, It was a pretty swank deal: he got to hang with Sam and Mikaela all the time, got lots of [[oil]], and could join Ironhide in killing Decepticons whenever he wanted. {{storylink|Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Deluxe Class toys 2|Bumblebee}} But when the battle shifted to the deserts, he threw himself into the fray, upgrading himself for desert combat and wielding the mighty ''sand blast''! {{storylink|Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Fast Action Battlers 2|Sand Attack Bumblebee}}<br /> <br /> ===Cyber Missions===<br /> :''Voice actors:'' [[Tom Anderson]], [[David Kledzik]], [[Tony Gialluca II]], [[Bronco O. Jackson]] <br /> <br /> Bumblebee and [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] were reviewing some [[data tracks]] that Optimus Prime had made for preservation in [[Vector Sigma]] when they detected an explosion outside their base. Bumblebee remained to lock down the most important data tracks while Ironhide went to investigate [[Bludgeon (ROTF)|the cause]] of the explosion. However, that is what the Decepticons wanted, as moments later, [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] burst into the base, overwhelming Bumblebee with a sonic attack, and mocking Bumblebee for being the smallest Autobot. Bumblebee countered that he wasn't as small as Soundwave thought, but in the battle that followed, Soundwave was able to physically overpower Bumblebee. Bumblebee fired a shot from his shoulder cannon, but Soundwave absorbed the sonic boom and sent the acoustic energy back at him. Bumblebee decided to use a more ingenious method: fire automatic weaponry at Soundwave, giving too many sonic booms for Soundwave to absorb, defeating the Decepticon. Bumblebee then tried to inform Ironhide of what had happened, but he had unfinished business with Bludgeon.{{storylink|Cyber Missions 1}} Following this, Bumblebee placed Soundwave in an electromagnetically sealed bubble, leaving him unable to absorb any sonic booms to escape. {{storylink|Cyber Missions 2}}<br /> <br /> {{spoiler|Cyber Missions 5|27 April 2010}}<br /> <br /> After Ironhide went missing in the jungle, Bumblebee reported the problem to Optimus, who was luckily in the area. Prime asked him to conduct a scan of the area in which Ironhide went missing, and Bumblebee discovered that the rocks in the area had an unusually high concentration of [[energon (fuel)|energon]] deposits. {{storylink|Cyber Missions 5}}<br /> <br /> ==Games==<br /> ===&quot;Flight of the Bumblebee&quot; online game===<br /> At some point in time Bumblebee was trapped in a canyon with several Decepticons, among them Brawl, Barricade, Wreckage, and Scorponok. He valiantly fought through them all to make it to the other side. He did it without even bending a fender. {{storylink|Flight of the Bumblebee|Flight of the Bumblebee}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers: The Game''===<br /> (No voice actor, considering the fact that his voice box got blown before the events of the game)<br /> <br /> [[Image:TransformersTheGame wallpaper BumblebeeVsBarricade.jpg|left|300px|thumb|&quot;All this artillery on your body and you go for a 'punch'?!?&quot;]]<br /> <br /> Bumblebee landed in Tranquility while being briefed by Optimus Prime on his mission to find clues on the All Spark. While on Earth, he took the form of a beat-up 1976 Chevrolet Camaro in possibly a dump or a demolitions bay. Some Decepticon drones were also in Tranquility at a nearby construction site, so Bumblebee confronted and destroyed the drones before any civilian casualties could ensue.&lt;ref&gt;Even though in the game, you actually can't step on or run over civilians.&lt;/ref&gt; Prime detected a Cybertronian code matching that on an artifact owned by a boy named Sam Witwicky, who was reported to be buying a car at Bobby Bolivia's. Unfortunately, some more drones heard of Prime's report, so Bumblebee had to get involved in a high-speed car chase and defeat the drones.<br /> <br /> With Sam buying the Camaro-ed Bumblebee, the first phase of finding the All Spark was complete. The next day, Prime warned Bumblebee that the Decepticon named Barricade was also on Earth and threatening to take Sam and his new female friend, Mikaela. So the Autobot had to incapacitate the arm-spinning, spike-punching, tantrum-throwing Decepticon while the humans escaped. Now that Bumblebee knew of the Decepticons' growing involvement in finding the All Spark's location, he obviously needed help. The only problem now with the Autobots' landing was their radar systems. The Decepticons had hacked radio towers throughout Tranquility to mess up any aircraft radar. Naturally, Bumblebee went to the scene and destroyed the towers. With the Autobots having landed, it was time to find the All Spark.<br /> <br /> Optimus Prime explained to Sam and Mikaela about the All Spark, the importance of the glasses, and Humanity's fate. Before moving on the matter at hand, Mikaela questioned Bumblebee's alt-mode being such a beater. The mildly insulted Autobot then copied a more current version of the Camaro (2009 Concept). Later, a government group called Sector Seven went after the Autobots with their helicopters and cars. After Jazz's successful distraction, Sector Seven then switched their sights to Bumblebee, who got captured, but then got away with the efforts of Prime.<br /> <br /> Sector Seven sent Bumblebee to Hoover Dam. The Autobot immediately saw the All Spark and a frozen Megatron. After a mysterious blackout, Bumblebee got free and started to shut down the power faster by ripping out the mainframe, blowing up the cooling fans, and removing nuclear canisters from their generators. The All Spark was his, but he had to wait for it to shrink while fending off Sector Seven troops, a lot of Energon drones, and a defrosting Megatron. (Oy!) Eventually, Sam and Mikaela got to the dam and fled with Bumblebee to Mission City before Megatron could get his huge, pointy clutches near the cube.<br /> <br /> The Autobots' first priority was then keeping the cube from Megatron. Unfortunately for Bumblebee, he crashed into a building due to interference from energon drones generated by the cube's radiation. Ironhide came in and helped. While the rest of the Autobots fought the Decepticons, Bumblebee had one final showdown with Barricade. After a lot of punches, blasts, and car chases, Barricade finally went down for good. Megatron then went to the scene and incapacitated the wounded Autobot with one shot from his fusion cannon. Bumblebee urged the two humans to take the cube to Optimus for he could not go on any longer.<br /> <br /> After the battle was won by the Autobots, Bumblebee struck a pose with the other remaining four as they listened in on Prime's final speech. {{storylink|Transformers The Game (console)|Transformers The Game (console)}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers: Autobots''===<br /> Bumblebee arrived in Tranquility to meet up with [[Create-A-Bot (Autobot)|Create-A-Bot]], and after a short discussion created from radio sound clips, instructed Create-a-Bot to scan a number of vehicles, the last of which was a Decepticon. After a short battle, Bumblebee then used Create-a-Bot's mad h4x0r skills to break into the internet and find the location of [[Archibald Witwicky]]'s glasses, which turned out to be conveniently in Tranquility. Going to retrieve them, Bumblebee arrived at the Witwicky house to find [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]], who then blew up a car and ran, blaming the explosion on the yellow car now chasing him down the highway. Meeting on a bridge, they fought. Once Bumblebee won, Barricade once again ran.<br /> <br /> Later, Bumblebee received a mission to destroy several [[Sector Seven]] turrets designed to shoot down the reported [[Non-Biological Extraterrestrial|N.B.E.s]] seen around the city. Afterward, he served as a distraction, driving to various markers to fight off the police while the other Autobots did their thing. Once that task was completed, he got captured by S7 forces and taken to Hoover Dam, where he had to be rescued by the others. Once free of his restraints, he searched the base for the All Spark, finding it in the deepest part of the dam. Upon being discovered, the All Spark turned the site's computers into mechanical scorpions...to defend itself. From the good guys. After retrieving the All Spark, Bumblebee had to escape in under 30 seconds to avoid getting locked in. After a quick getaway with Create-a-Bot providing cover fire, they met with Optimus. Following another quick gun-and-cover mission, a drone and Barricade were waiting for a two-on-two battle, in which Prime had to keep both Bumblebee and himself alive.<br /> <br /> Finally, Bumblebee's last mission once again took place in Tranquility. All Spark in hand, he had to run to meet up with the Autobots, avoiding as many Decepticons as possible, within a time limit. Blackout was gunning for him the entire time, and lots of Decepticons were in the way. Once there, Create-a-Bot needed to keep Bumblebee from being [[Blastification|blasted]] into [[Slag (slang)|slag]] as they raced to meet up with Optimus. {{storylink|Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|Transformers: Autobots}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers: Decepticons''===<br /> After sending troops to slow down Barricade and the Decepticon [[Create-A-Bot (Decepticon)|Create-A-Bot]], Bumblebee showed up in person to take care of business himself, serving as little more than a distraction. After running away, Bumblebee later acquired the All Spark, transporting it across Tranquility while [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] gave chase. Stopping in the suburbs, Starscream pounded Bumblebee's face to custard and pried the All Spark from his cold, non-functioning fingers. {{storylink|Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|Transformers: Decepticons}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' - The Game===<br /> :''Voice actor:'' [[Mark Ryan]] (English)<br /> ====Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC====<br /> =====Autobot campaign=====<br /> [[Image:ROTF_360PS3PC_BumblebeeVsCombaticonWarrior.jpg|thumb|250px|Bumblebee decided to learn from a [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|different Prime]].]]<br /> <br /> Bumblebee was the Autobots' high speed recon soldier. In combat mode, he possess a [[plasma cannon|solar plasma cannon]] firing rapid energy bursts, which could shift into a missile launcher that fired six missiles at a time. In melee combat, he could deploy an [[axe]] from his left hand. Finally, he possessed the ability to emit a localized [[electromagnetic pulse]]wave, which would temporarily stun enemy Decepticons.<br /> <br /> Since he hadn't seen combat in some time, Bumblebee was sent through some retraining under Ironhide. Despite being fully combat certified, Bumblebee was not deployed during the [[Shanghai]] mission. When the Decepticons learned of the AllSpark shard Sam had left with Mikaela, Bumblebee was sent to rescue the girl and protect her from the drones dispatched to capture the shard. After a vicious fight, Mikaela was air lifted to safety.<br /> <br /> After Megatron was reborn and kidnapped Sam, Bumblebee was sent to an industrial sector near his college to rescue the boy. He fought through twenty eight Decepticons while [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] hacked their processors to learn Sam's location. Once he found Sam at [[Broadwater Metal Works|an abandoned foundry]], Bumblebee raced Sam to the extraction point. However, the Decepticons sent reinforcements under [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]]. Bumblebee was able to fight off the Decepticons and defeat Grindor, saving Sam. However, it was learned that some knowledge from the AllSpark had been absorbed into the boy when he killed Megatron. Sam was forced to go seek out [[Seymour Simmons]] to learn what was going on. Bumblebee protected the boy while talked at the deli Simmons' mother owned. Sam than told Bumblebee that he needed to get to the museum nearby to speak with [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]], an ancient Decepticon defector. Bumblebee fought off the Decepticons sent to destroy the museum long enough for Jetfire to open a [[space bridge]] and take him and Sam to [[Egypt]].<br /> <br /> Once there, Jetfire explained what was going on: thousands of years ago, the [[Dynasty of Primes]] came to Earth to build a [[solar harvester]] to convert Earth's sun into Energon. When they discovered the humans, twelve of the [[Thirteen original Transformers|original Primes]] upheld the sanctity of life, but one Prime, forever known as [[The Fallen]], betrayed and slaughtered his brothers. The machine was hidden from the Fallen, who went on to become the master of the Decepticons. The machine was hidden within the [[Great Pyramid of Giza]], and [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] was sent to destroy it and expose the harvester. On the way, he decided to terrorize the city of [[Cairo]]. Faced with the largest Decepticon ever seen, the Autobots decided that Bumblebee, the smallest of the Autobots, would be a good choice to help [[NEST]] counter Devastator's rampage. Surprisingly enough, it worked: Bumblebee was able to whittle down Devastator's cannons and missile launchers before finally defeating the beast. <br /> {{charstubfiction}}<br /> <br /> =====Decepticon campaign=====<br /> [[Image:ROTF_360PS3PC_BumblebeeVsCombaticonScout.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Little bot in little China]]<br /> It is believed that Bumblebee was behind the reasons why the Decepticons failed numerous times to capture Sam or Mikaela. Once Megatron went to Cairo to find Sam and destroy numerous Autobots, Bumblebee and Jetfire came out of hiding with NEST forces and attacked Megatron. They were both killed. <br /> {{charstubfiction}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> {{main|Bumblebee (Movie)/toys}}<br /> <br /> ==Merchandise==<br /> {{main|Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Merchandise}}<br /> <br /> ==''Second Life''==<br /> In the online virtual world simulation/game ''Second Life'', there is a full replica of the Sector Seven base which contains a giant discussion room where Michael Bay held a question board. This room contains a giant frozen Megatron replica and free avatars of both Bumblebee and Barricade. Both freebies are non-transforming. Also, the Bumblebee avatar has his battle mask down and it can't be raised. However, some sellers have created a transforming version.<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> * According to an article on [http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=121138?imw=Y#12 Edmunds.com], the film makers wanted Bumblebee's original Earth form to be the 1976 iteration of the Camaro because it was the worst Camaro possible that also had chrome bumpers. <br /> <br /> * The same article indicates that the 1976 Camaros used in the film were all purchased via online auction for under $6000 each, one for less than $2000. That one didn't run.<br /> <br /> * One of the 1976 Camaros was sold on eBay. The bidding ended on July 18, 2007; the final price was $40,100.01.<br /> <br /> * The Bumblebee computer-generated model consisted of 7608 individual parts, 1,511,727 polygons, 19,722 rig nodes, and 8094 texture maps. The volume of all the pieces came to 1069.01 cubic feet.&lt;ref&gt;Robertson, Barbara (2007). Heavy Metal. ''Computer Graphics, 30''(7), 12-17.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> * Bumblebee stands approximately 16 feet tall, according to the [[Transformers The Game|official game]] strategy guide.<br /> <br /> * Bumblebee's character animation is based on the performance of [[wikipedia:Michael_J._Fox|Michael J. Fox]] in the ''[[wikipedia:Back_to_the_Future|Back to the Future]]'' movies.&lt;ref&gt;From ''Cinefex'' magazine, issue number 111, published October 2007.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> * The 2008 Concept Camaro used for Bumblebee in the first movie was built by Saleen in 30 days, using a heavily modified 2006 Pontiac GTO body as the basis. The '08 Camaro was not in production at the time that the first film was being made, hence an identical mock-up was needed to fill the role.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.saleen.com/transformers.htm Saleen article about the construction of the Barricade and Bumblebee vehicles]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> [[Image:MovieBumblebeeStinger.jpg|right|200px|thumb|He uses it once, then dies.]]<br /> * Bumblebee is equipped with a pair of arm-mounted electrical &quot;[[stinger]]s.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;Bumblebee's [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Battle-Bios.cfm Battle Bio] at Hasbro.com&lt;/ref&gt; While designed, the stingers were ultimately not featured in the movies, though they may influenced [[Bumblebee (Animated)|other media]].<br /> <br /> * Speaking of weapons, for someone whose main job is being subtle, Bumblebee is quite well armed, with a cannon powerful enough to rattle [[Brawl (Movie)|Brawl]] and a ring-shaped light missile launcher in either shoulder. He is also a capable close-combat fighter, as seen in his fight against [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] and [[Rampage (ROTF)|Rampage]].<br /> <br /> * According to the [[Movie Prequel issue 1|prequel comic]] by IDW Publishing, Megatron ripped out and crushed Bumblebee's voice capacitor during the battle at [[Tyger Pax]] back on Cybertron. [[Hardtop (Movie)|Hardtop]]'s toy bio claims the damage came from a shot fired by Hardtop. In the film itself, Ratchet only states to Sam that Bumblebee's &quot;vocal processors were damaged in battle&quot; and he was &quot;still working on them&quot; after firing a single plasma beam at Bumblebee's throat; by the end of all the conflict (the climax of the film proper), Bumblebee has regained his ability to speak. Although it was not confirmed on-screen, screenwriter Roberto Orci did confirm ''off''-screen&lt;ref name=&quot;Orci&quot;/&gt; that Ratchet's (regenerative) beam was indeed the reason. It could be that the doc didn't have enough time/resources, what with all the war and inter-stellar space travel, to fully perfect the healing plasma early enough. And even if he did, 'Bee took off for the Cube after only a marginal amount of repairs were performed on him after his encounter with Megs, so a vial of even faster-acting plasma could be sitting in Ratchet's lab back on ol' Cybertron, if the 'Cons didn't trash it of course.<br /> <br /> * Just as well, Roberto Orci ''also'' admitted that Bumblebee's brief contact with the All Spark would be an equally valid (and an even more &quot;in-continuity&quot;) explanation.&lt;ref name=&quot;Orci&quot;/&gt;<br /> <br /> * Bumblebee's license plate number is 4NZ2454, registered in [[California]].&lt;ref&gt;''[[Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe]]''&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> * In [[Transformers (2007)|''Transformers'' (2007)]], Bumblebee scans a working, driveable new generation Camaro — conveniently with the same paint job as his classic Camaro disguise at that time — that wouldn't be released until some time in the year 2009. However, it is possible that the Camaro in question was being road-tested by GM engineers, like they are doing in the real world.<br /> <br /> * Although unexplained in the films, Bumblebee's vehicle mode changes appearance subtly between [[Transformers (2007)|''Transformers'' (2007)]] and ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]''. This is probably because of product placement: Bumblebee's old [[alternate mode]] was an unavailable concept Camaro, while in ''Revenge'' he uses what seems to be the new Z/28 Camaro... whose mass production has since been canceled. Oops.<br /> <br /> [[Image:ROTFBumblebeeAltColorsConcept.jpg|thumb|250px|But will we ever '''get''' an orange Bumblebee? No, we'll just keep getting slightly different yellow ones.]]<br /> <br /> *According to designer [[Paul Ozzimo]] on his website, at one point there were plans to make Bumblebee into a Z/28 convertible for ''Revenge of the Fallen'', and the possibility of changing his color to orange or black with yellow was also discussed. While none of these alterations happened, concept art for both appeared on the &quot;25 Years of Transformers&quot; feature on the ''Revenge'' DVD... though the black version is only seen from behind.<br /> <br /> * Screenwriter [[Roberto Orci]], when asked, admitted there had been plans to have Bumblebee speak in ''Revenge of the Fallen''; however, ultimately they liked his &quot;musical ability&quot; too much, and [[Michael Bay]] wanted to focus more on [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]], since he thought kids would like the two characters.&lt;ref name=&quot;orci&quot;&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/180451-welcome-mr-roberto-orci-you-may-ask-him-questions-283.html#post3785383 Q&amp;A with Roberto Orci at TFW2005]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> * [http://www.tfu.info/2007/Autobot/Bumblebee/bumblebee.htm Bumblebee at TFU.info]<br /> * [http://www.seibertron.com/toys/index.php?f_series=40&amp;f_name=bumblebee&amp;f_type=exact&amp;Submit=Search Galleries of various different Bumblebee toys from the Movie]<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Category:Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Exclusives]]<br /> [[Category:NEST]]<br /> [[Category:Movie characters]]<br /> [[Category:Revenge of the Fallen characters]]<br /> [[Category:Live-action film ARG characters]]<br /> [[Category:Robot Heroes]]<br /> [[Category:Titanium Series]]<br /> [[Category:Transformers 2010 toyline characters]]</div>

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<p>98.204.17.1: /* IDW Transformers movie comics */</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot|NEST}}<br /> {{disambig3|Ratchet}}<br /> :''Ratchet is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''<br /> <br /> [[Image:Movie Ratchet promorender.jpg|right|300px|thumb|He&amp;#39;s not a vanette with a siren slapped on. (Instead, he&amp;#39;s a rescue truck with an H2 cab slapped on.)]]<br /> '''Ratchet''', the Autobots' medic, is probably the bravest of them all. He'll risk his life to pull any wounded comrade from the battlefield. Indeed, he did not join [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]'s team to be a soldier; rather, he's there to save lives, and thinks Prime is the best chance the universe has for peace.<br /> <br /> A medic who dislikes violence, Ratchet's well-armed appearance is more due to being an improviser with surgical tools, such as his buzzsaw. When combat is unavoidable, he can employ these makeshift weapons with surprising agility for his size.<br /> <br /> <br /> {{bigquote|I can't save them all. I learned that truism a long time ago, on countless battlefields. But still, no matter how many I help... a hundred, a thousand... it's the one that I fail that haunts me!|Ratchet on a bitter truth|[[Transformers Comic issue 3]]}}<br /> <br /> <br /> :''Hungarian name:'' '''Racsni'''<br /> :''Chinese name (Taiwan):'' '''Fēi Lún''' (飛輪, &quot;Flying Wheel&quot;)<br /> :''Chinese name (China):'' '''Jiu Hu Che''' (救護車, &quot;Ambulance&quot;) <br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Titan Magazines ''Transformers'' movie comics===<br /> [[Image:Titan Ratchet offmodel.jpg|left|250px|thumb|How the crap are they missing a target ''that'' big?]]<br /> <br /> Ratchet used to be a politician, Optimus Prime's chief liaison to the [[High Council of Ancients]]. He tried to find a peaceful solution to the civil war, and when this failed, he became a battlefield medic. {{storylink|Transformers: The Movie Guide}}<br /> <br /> He would later be one of three Autobots who tried to prevent [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] from reaching the [[All Spark]]. However, they hadn't expected [[Brawl (Movie)|Devastator]] to be demented enough to set off a foldspace warhead at pointblank range, a weapon that warped everyone to different parts of the galaxy. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2|Prelude: Megatron}} As well as ending up in a different body, Ratchet found himself stuck in the middle of a genocidal alien war that uncomfortably mirrored Cybertron's own. By challenging and defeating [[Durguth]], the local tyrant, he became ruler of the [[Thraal]] faction. He then ordered a ceasefire and oversaw an interim alliance, effectively bringing peace to the planet single-handed. He then set up a homing beacon in the hope of getting rescued. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 3|Prelude: Ratchet}}<br /> <br /> [[Image:Titan Ratchet notanambulance.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Ratchet... in a ''non''-medical alt mode?! You go too far, Furman!]]<br /> <br /> [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] eventually detected the beacon, Ratchet switched back to his green form, and the two began searching for Jazz when he didn't show. They rescued him from a predatory alien planet and then returned to Cybertron. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 6|Lost In Space Part 4: Jazz}} Once on Cybertron, he decided to try out that white body again, and was part of a mission to ''finally'' medevac [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 1|Prime Directive (IDW) issue 1}}<br /> <br /> Centuries later and immediately following the death of Megatron, Ratchet (having gone back to green) and his comrades were attacked by [[zombie]] Decepticons. After being briefly smacked aside in the fight, it occurred to Ratchet that the corpses were being animated by All Spark energy stolen from the [[Allspark Mutation|Allspark Mutations]], and this knowledge turned the tide before the Autobots were wiped out. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 7|Starscream's Militia}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> {{notetitantlg}}<br /> Ratchet was part of the outnumbered human-Autobot resistance in the conquered [[United States of America]]. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 10|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 2}} Along with [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]], he infiltrated a Decepticon facility disguised as a (purple) Payload to stop them using the [[All Spark]] to transform Earth, and he reluctantly decided to let the All Spark be destroyed if it was the only way to save Earth. Unfortunately, [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]] let them into the facility to kill them! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 11|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 3}} <br /> <br /> [[Image:RatchetArmorhide_letsdoit.jpg|left|400px|thumb|Ratchet's a trendsetter, and if only the trend was having a consistent colour scheme and look between issues...]]<br /> <br /> Ratchet's quick tactical thinking (absorbing nearby ore to reform his offensive weaponry and armour) immediately turned the tide against the Decepticon, but only the arrival of [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee and her crew]] stopped him from being gunned down by Swindles. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 12|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 4}} Despite this, drone numbers were against them, and Ratchet didn't believe they could pull off a victory until he noticed a way to bypass the All Spark's defensive forcefield and destroy the Cube with regular weaponry. Ratchet did this, saving Earth at the cost of the All Spark, though he begged for forgiveness as he destroyed it. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 13|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 5}}<br /> <br /> To his relief, a fragment of the All Spark had survived. Optimus, worried about the fragment being corrupted by exposure to Megatron, made Ratchet its guardian. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 14|Aftermath Part 1}} However, in the face of great Decepticon numbers, Ratchet took an unauthorised risk and used the fragment to bring Jazz back to life. The fragment's corruption meant Jazz was brought back amoral and self-serving, and Ratchet was left distraught at what he'd done. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 16|Dark Spark}} <br /> <br /> [[Image:Ratchet_Titan16notonmywatch.jpg|right|350px|thumb|&quot;A proper mouth, at last!&quot;]]<br /> <br /> When the Autobots received an SOS from Ironhide's team on Cybertron, the entire team mobilised to head there. Ratchet hurriedly picked up [[Mikaela Banes]] so she could watch their base, ignoring every single traffic law as he did so. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 19|Return to Cybertron: Part 3}} When on Cybertron, Ratchet found himself in battle against [[Unicron]], trying to separate him from the [[Nucleon]] he was using to power his physical body (a possessed Cybertron!). It became clear fast that the Autobot's plan was not going to work fast enough, but Ratchet realised that such a large structure would have an energy distribution network around them; rather than drain the Nucleon manually, he sped things up by having everyone shoot the distribution network until it blew up, causing the energy to be used up in an internal fire. Who needs a [[Matrix]] when you have Ratchet! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 20|Return to Cybertron: Part 4}}<br /> <br /> After the Decepticons re-took Savannah, Ratchet was part of the ground troops sent in to rescue Mikaela. He did bog all there, really. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 22|The Decepticon Who Haunted Himself}}<br /> <br /> ===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===<br /> [[Image:Defiance1 Ratchet Jazz vocalprocessors.jpg|left|250px|thumb|You turbo revvin young punks are always in the way!]]<br /> <br /> Many years before the war, First Officer Ratchet was a member of the science sector on Cybertron. He greeted Commander [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] when the latter returned from a patrol in the [[Eshems nebula]] and repaired his wounds. When he reported of promising findings in the archaeological site near the temple of [[Simfur]], Starscream was somewhat dismissive of the science division's efforts in light of their previous failures. Later, at the excavation site, [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] tweaked Ratchet by asking if the artifacts found were as old as the first officer. Ratchet exaggerated being upset and deployed his various tools, threatening Jazz that he was just as good as disabling [[Vocal processor|vocal processors]] as he was fixing them. When Optimus walked off with Protector [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], Ratchet wacked Jazz on the back of the head. He was present when [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee's]] team found a strange artifact with the [[Decepticon|strange symbol]] and helped escort the relic out of the dig site when the aliens whom Starscream had encountered earlier suddenly attacked the planet. {{storylink|Defiance issue 1}}<br /> <br /> After the alien attack ceased, Ratchet and Arcee analysed the remains of the attackers, discovering that the aliens were similar in structures to Cybertronians, even to the point of having something similar to a [[spark]] core, but only lacked the means to [[transform]]. Before they could speculate further, [[Signal Flare (Movie)|Signal Flare]] arrived, with orders from Optimus to assemble for a meeting immediately. At the gathering, Optimus explained how Megatron was demanding they betray their principals of pacifism to go to war with the aliens, and while he implored to the members of his science division to not leave with the army, he also said they could freely choose to go without fear of reprimand. Naturally, Ratchet stayed on Optimus' side. {{storylink|Defiance issue 2}}<br /> <br /> [[Image:Defiance3_labwork_RatchetArceeElita.jpg|thumb|250px|Roger, Roger. What's your vector, Victor?]]<br /> <br /> Hoping to learn some answers about the mysterious relic, Ratchet, [[Elita-One]] and Arcee took most of the recovered fragments found at the dig site to the lab for immediate examination. After Optimus Prime, Jazz and [[Prowl (Movie)|Prowl]] broke into Megatron's quarters to get a close look at the intact relic, Ratchet was surprised to learn that the ancient monolith seemed to be in better than had found it in. An unexpected shock same when analysis of the fragments detected the same symbol in the same area on all the different pieces, and what's more, the symbol was also on Optimus's head. Ratchet claimed that this was proof that the [[Dynasty of Primes]] existed, and that Optimus was linked to them. Later, at a dig site near [[Burthov]], Ratchet bestowed the name Optimus '''''Prime''''' on his leader, with the opinion that it had a nice ring to it, though Optimus himself thought it might mean &quot;[[Optimus Prime (G1)#Dreamwave comics continuity|records clerk]]&quot; for all they knew. Examining the ruins, Optimus wondered aloud why only the relic Megatron possessed remained intact, leading Ratchet to hypothesis that the others had been smashed deliberately. Further speculation was halted by Prowl's security detachment, who had orders to arrest Optimus on flimsy charges of treason. As they were being led away, what no one in the group realised was Megatron had marked all but Optimus for death. Ratchet assisted in the recovery of Prowl when [[Brawl (Movie)|Brawl]] fired an explosive shell into the convoy. As the group made a run for Burthov, Optimus Prime personally took care of Starscream's group. {{storylink|Defiance issue 3}} After those following Optimus Prime were declared traitors, the planet erupted into civil war. {{storylink|Defiance issue 4}}<br /> <br /> During the war, Optimus Prime decided to launch the All Spark into space to keep it out of Lord Megatron's hands. [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]'s team was successful in diverting the Decepticon leader's attention at [[Tyger Pax]], but the young Autobot was greviously injured as a result. As he was carried away on a stretcher, Ratchet declared Bumblebee a hero for delaying Megatron long enough for their plan to work. Ratchet repaired his body, but contrary to what he told Jazz years earlier, was unable to repair Bumblebee's vocal processor. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 1|Prime Directive (IDW) issue 1}}<br /> <br /> {{note|The inability to repair Bumblebee's vocal processor (or &quot;voice capacitor&quot;, as it is referred to in IDW's [[Movie Prequel (2007)|2007 Movie Prequel]]) is at odds with the movie itself where Ratchet said he was working on it, and eventually, Bumblebee does regain his voice.}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Ghosts of Yesterday'' prequel novel===<br /> {{charstubfiction}}<br /> {{storylink|Ghosts of Yesterday}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers'' (2007 film)===<br /> :''Voice actor:'' [[Robert Foxworth]] (English), [[Jin Urayama]] (Japan), [[Jan Spitzer]] (German), [[Alain Dorval]] (French)<br /> <br /> Hearing [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee's]] call for assistance, Ratchet and the other Autobots under Optimus Prime's direct command came to Earth, with Ratchet crashing into a storefront. As emergency crews and bystanders observed the wreckage, Ratchet assumed the vehicle mode of a nearby Hummer H2 rescue vehicle and drove away.<br /> <br /> [[Image:Ratchetmovieautobotsforshort.jpg|left|250px|thumb|&quot;The boy's pheromone levels suggests he wants to mate with the female. Other way around, not so much.&quot;]]<br /> <br /> Ratchet linked up with [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] and [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]], then made their way to a deserted alley to meet up with Optimus Prime, Bumblebee and their new [[Sam Witwicky|human]] [[Mikaela Banes|friends]]. After being introduced as the unit's medical officer, Ratchet remarked that his sensors indicated that Sam's pheromone levels suggested he wanted to mate with Mikaela. (Neither Sam nor Mikaela appreciated this comment.) He also explained how Bumblebee's [[Circuits|voicebox]] was damaged and that he had been having trouble fixing it for some time.<br /> <br /> Following Sam to his house, Ratchet and their other Autobots unwittingly caused much destruction to the Witwicky yard and stress to Sam when they attempted to help the boy look for his [[Archibald Witwicky|grandfather's]] glasses. After Sam told them to hide, Ratchet accidentally walked into some power lines, which shocked him enough to make him fall onto a greenhouse. Ratchet found the experience tingly and suggested to Ironhide that he try it, and Ironhide sarcastically mused that it looked fun, but unfortunately, it had caused a neighborhood-wide blackout, making the search for the glasses much more difficult. Ratchet attempted to help by activating his powerful floodlights, which only succeeded in making [[Ron Witwicky|the]] [[Judy Witwicky|parents]] investigate Sam's room. When Ironhide remarked that Sam's parents were annoying and requested Prime's permission to &quot;take them out&quot;, the normally peaceful Ratchet nodded vigorously and pointed Ironhide's left cannon at the house. Maybe that power surge did more damage than suspected.<br /> <br /> [[Image:Movie Ratchet Ironhide runSam.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Oh, that hurt!]]<br /> <br /> Soon, Sam, Mikaela and his parents were captured by the mysterious [[Sector Seven]]. Ratchet and the other Autobots totally outclassed the S7 agents by instantly disarming them of their weapons, then rescuing the boy and his girl. Their dramatic escape was to be short-lived, and Bumblebee was captured while saving his human friends' lives. The next morning, the remaining Autobots gathered to discuss their options. Whether through intuition or some technological means, Ratchet announced that the Decepticons were preparing to make their move. Optimus Prime declared that if they could not defeat the Decepticons, he would fuse the [[All Spark]] with his own [[spark]], hopefully destroying it. Ratchet cautioned him against this action, as the raw power of the artifact would likely kill him. Prime replied that it was his own choice, and to save the humans from destruction and the mistakes of the Transformers, it was a sacrifice that he was willing to make. Inspired by his words, the Autobots headed to [[Hoover Dam]], before encountering Bumblebee leading a column of Sector Seven vehicles headed in the opposite direction.<br /> <br /> As the large group arrived in [[Mission City]], it was attacked by [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]], with the explosion crippling Bumblebee. At the same time, [[Brawl (Movie)|Devastator]] attacked the surviving human soldiers, prompting Ratchet and Jazz to engage the large Decepticon. As Jazz destroyed one of Devastator's rocket pods, Ratchet used his buzzsaw to slice off the tank's left arm.<br /> <br /> [[Image:Movie Prime Jazz Ironhide Ratchet battleaftermath.jpg|left|300px|thumb|&quot;We lost a great comrade.&quot;&lt;br/&gt; ...*toss*]]<br /> <br /> [[William Lennox|Captain Lennox]] ordered Sam to take the All Spark to the rooftop of a nearby, run-down building so he could pass the cube to a military helicopter that would soon arrive. Ratchet and Ironhide volunteered themselves to protect Sam as he made his escape. Unfortunately, the villainous Starscream swooped down to block Sam's path, forcing the Autobots to engage him in a rather one-sided battle that left them both damaged. Ratchet and Ironhide collapsed, and Sam had to continue on his own.<br /> <br /> After the defeat of Megatron and the destruction of the All Spark, Ratchet somberly informed Optimus Prime that he could not save the fallen Jazz. Later, as Optimus declared that Earth was their new home and that his team would be waiting for any surviving Autobots to gather there, Ratchet spent the remainder of the day observing Sam and Mikaela making out on the hood of Bumblebee's vehicle mode. {{storylink|Transformers (2007)}}<br /> <br /> ===On-package bio===<br /> {{notemoviebio}}<br /> <br /> Ratchet, despite what he said previously, fixed Jazz up just fine. {{storylink|Jazz (Movie)#Deluxe Class toys|Target Autobot Jazz}} The All Spark helped a lot. {{storylink|Jazz (Movie)#Deluxe Class toys|All Spark-Enhanced Autobot Jazz}}<br /> <br /> He also learned a little more about Earth and decided to change to what he felt was a more typical &quot;rescue&quot; deco. The new look feels more natural to him, and helps him to help humans better. {{storylink|#Voyager Class toys|Rescue Ratchet}} Unfortunately, in a later encounter with [[Brawl (Movie)|Brawl]], the Decepticon deliberately fired in all directions just to watch and laugh as Ratchet ran himself ragged trying to save all the injured people. {{storylink|#Legends Class toys|Rescue Ratchet vs. Decepticon Brawl}} <br /> <br /> Now realising that sometimes he can only save lives through combat, he began keeping his torch fueled for use against Decepticons. {{storylink|#Fast Action Battlers|Rescue Torch Ratchet}}<br /> <br /> ===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===<br /> [[Image:Alliance1 Ratchet Dew.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Yeah Ratchet, but why can't you tell this to all Americans?]]<br /> <br /> After the battle of Mission City, Ratchet was reattaching Bumblebee's legs when [[Dispensor|an All Spark mutation]] attacked Sam. Ratchet crushed the hostile creature with his foot, but was surprised to discover that it contained substances loaded with stimulants and ingredients harmful to humans such as Sam and Mikaela. After repairing Bumblebee and retrieving Jazz's remains, the Autobots rolled out to evade Sector Seven. In the month that followed, Ratchet became fascinated with Earth's varied minerals, such that [[William Lennox|Captain Lennox]] joked that the Autobots were late to meet them because Ratchet had stopped to take soil samples again. {{storylink|Alliance issue 1}}<br /> <br /> [[Image:Alliance4_Ratchet_Ironhide_stylish.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Hey Ratchet, guess what? NOBODY CARES.]]<br /> <br /> Ratchet arrived at Sector Seven's secret base in the [[Nevada]] desert with the other Autobots to help escort the Decepticon remains to [[California|San Diego, California]]. He stayed with Prime when the Autobot leader sent Bumblebee and Ironhide back to retrieve the All Spark sliver Prime had left in Sector Seven's care. {{storylink|Alliance issue 2}} The convoy returned to the base anyway after the level of destruction caused by the Decepticons was reported. Ratchet could be seen assisting the damaged Bumblebee. By the time the Autobots were on [[United States Navy|US Navy aircraft carrier]] weeks later for Jazz's burial-at-sea, Ratchet had repaired Bumblebee's outer panels (giving him a new body kit), but was evidently unable to fully restore Bumblebee's [[vocal processor]]s. The Autobots subsequently agreed to [[NEST|a formal alliance with the US military]], and they began training on the island of [[Diego Garcia]]. Soon after, the Decepticons [[Swindle (Movie)|Swindle]] and [[Dead End (Movie)|Dead End]] were detected in [[San Francisco]]. {{storylink|Alliance issue 3}}<br /> <br /> In San Francisco, Ratchet and Ironhide bantered about how the former's vehicle mode was more suited to [[N.E.S.T.]]'s cover story of a chemical spill, while the latter asserted that he was the more stylish of the pair. After Optimus Prime disabled Dead End, Ratchet did not detect any energy readings in the Decepticon. After the Decepticons were dealt with, Optimus and Major Lennox agreed that the Decepticons would most likely pursue Sam Witwicky again, and so he ''must'' be protected. As Bumblebee left, a sad Ratchet thanked the younger Autobot and promised that they'll keep working on his vocal processors, being sure that they could get them working again. Soon, more Decepticons were being sighted on Earth, and during a subsequent battle in [[Florida]], Ratchet was pinned to the ground by the much larger [[Incinerator (Movie)|Incinerator]]. Ratchet used his hand saw to cut into the Decepticon's ankle, distracting Incinerator enough for Optimus Prime to run his energy sword through him. An event that brought joy and hope to all was the arrival of new Autobot refugees to Earth, though this was tempered with the news of even more Decepticon sightings, and training of the new recruits were put to the test when [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]] was spotted in [[Shanghai]]. {{Storylink|Alliance issue 4}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''The Veiled Threat'' prequel novel===<br /> {{Note|The events of ''The Veiled Threat'' take place during [[IDW Publishing]]'s ''[[Alliance (comic)|Alliance]]'' comic.}}<br /> <br /> On their way back to [[Diego Garcia]], Ratchet watched Ironhide scare the crap out of [[Erasto Khalfani|a pirate]] who was trying to attack their ship. Later, he accompanied a [[NEST]] team including Ironhide, Optimus, [[Salvage (Movie)|Salvage]], and [[Beachbreak]] to the Zambezi River to battle the Decepticons that had appeared there.Ratchet engaged the smaller [[Dropkick]], leaving Prime and Ironhide to take [[Macerator]] and [[Payload (Movie)|Payload]]. Shortly after; Optimus was swept over the falls; when Beachbreak lowered his cable, Ratchet transmitted to Prime to grab it and then helped haul him up.<br /> <br /> Shortly afterwards, the team traveled to a nearby dam on the Zambezi, just as the Decepticons began their attack. Payload took up position down the gorge and began to fire on the dam. Ratchet climbed up onto the structure and did his best to patch the holes, even as he took fire from the Decepticon. Eventually, he was saved when [[William Lennox]] opened the emergency floodgates, releasing a torrent of water that sent Payload crashing away.<br /> <br /> It took him a good deal of time to recover, so he missed out on the missions to [[Peru]] and [[Australia]]. But he was ready to join the team for the trip to Rome, and helped in the battle against [[Swindle (Movie)|Swindle]], [[Dead End (Movie)|Deadend]], and Starscream.<br /> {{storylink|The Veiled Threat}}<br /> <br /> ===''Revenge of the Fallen'' movie===<br /> :''Voice actor:'' [[Robert Foxworth]] (English), [[Jin Urayama]] (Japan), [[Jan Spitzer]] (German)<br /> Ratchet stayed at NEST's US base during the team's mission in [[China|Shanghai]]. He was deployed when [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]—who was resurrected with the [[All Spark]] shard stolen from [[Diego Garcia]]—began hunting for [[Sam Witwicky]]. Along with his comrades, Ratchet came too late to aid [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], who was protecting Sam from Megatron, [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]]. Ratchet ordered Bumblebee to get Sam to safety, while he and the rest of the Autobots provided cover fire, driving Megatron and Starscream off. The Autobots then located Prime's body, but there was nothing Ratchet could do for him: Optimus Prime was dead.<br /> <br /> NEST returned to base with Optimus' body, only to be surrounded by [[United States military]] forces who had grown fearful of the Autobots' presence attracting more Decepticons to Earth following Prime's death. Director [[Theodore Galloway]], who was behind NEST's shutdown, believed that humanity was sufficiently advanced enough to battle off the Decepticons, and also announced that they would buy time by negotiating with the Decepticons. Ratchet made no effort to conceal his low opinion of Galloway, believing him a &quot;terribly misinformed&quot; fool. Ratchet himself suggested that if the Autobots were unwelcomed, then they should simply leave Earth, but [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] opined that Optimus would not want them to leave. Reluctantly, the Autobots stood down and allowed themselves be kept under nets to restrain them.<br /> <br /> Director Galloway ordered the Autobots retreat to Diego Garcia—but when Major [[William Lennox]] learned Witwicky had travelled to [[Egypt]] to find the [[Matrix of Leadership]], which could be used to resurrect Prime, they were sent there instead. Ratchet fought off many Decepticons before Sam arrived and revived Prime with the Matrix. However, Prime was still weakened and [[the Fallen]] arrived to steal the Matrix so he could activate his [[solar harvester]]. A defected Decepticon named [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] sacrificed himself so Optimus could use his parts to fly to the solar harvester: Ratchet ordered [[Jolt (ROTF)|Jolt]] to electrify Jetfire's body so it would start attaching to Optimus' body. Having combined, Optimus flew off to destroy the harvester and kill the Fallen. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}<br /> <br /> ==Games==<br /> ===''Transformers'' The Game (console)===<br /> :''Voice actor:'' [[Fred Tatasciore]]<br /> <br /> {{cleanup|August 2009|Needs to be rewritten to treat this section like regular fiction.}}<br /> <br /> ====Autobot Campaign====<br /> The only non-playable Autobot, he shows up in movie sequences from time to time. He's completely absent in the Decepticon campaign. {{storylink|Transformers The Game (console)|Transformers The Game (console)}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Autobots''===<br /> A part of Optimus Prime's force on Earth, Ratchet stayed on the sidelines until Bumblebee came racing into Tranquility with Blackout on his tail. Intercepting him from a skyscraper's rooftop, Ratchet managed to destroy Blackout, sending him crashing down. {{storylink|Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|Transformers: Autobots}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Decepticons''===<br /> Ratchet does very little. (Noticing a trend here?) He comes in to attack the Decepticon Create-a-bot in the Army base. After a short fight, he escapes. He makes no other appearances, and so is one of the three characters (the other two being Megatron and Brawl) to survive the game. He's in a spot of bother now, then. {{storylink|Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|Transformers: Decepticons}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Revenge of the Fallen'' - The Game===<br /> :''Voice actor:'' [[Robert Foxworth]]<br /> ====''Revenge of the Fallen'' - The Game (Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC)====<br /> =====Autobot campaign=====<br /> {{charstubfiction}}<br /> {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Transformers (2007)===<br /> ====Legends Class toys====<br /> [[Image:LegendsRatchet.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Hasbro might have fixed the green color, but nobody told them to fix the hue settings for the official promo photos.]]<br /> *'''Autobot Ratchet''' (Legends Class, 2007)<br /> **''Japanese name:'' '''EZ Collection Ratchet'''<br /> <br /> :An inexpensive, small-scale version of Ratchet, he remains relatively faithful to his vehicle mode (though highly simplified), but transforms very differently due to his simplicity. In robot mode he has a faux truck-front chest that's more faithful to the CGI design than the Voyager toy's chest, but the rest of his robot mode is (understandably) inaccurate and limited in articulation.<br /> <br /> :The original production run of the toy sported a significantly wrong shade of green. A running change variant that quickly replaced the original version corrected the error, now sporting the same shade of green as the Voyager Class toy.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.thetf.net/forum_posts-TID-10086-PN-1.htm Comparison images of both color variants of Legends Ratchet]&lt;/ref&gt; Still, the color variant was not limited to the US market, as both versions also popped up in Europe. Japan, however, got stuck with the original, off-color version.<br /> {{-}}<br /> [[Image:Movie2007 LegendsRatchet VS Brawl.jpg|right|250px|thumb|The Doctor vs. the Warrior.]]<br /> *'''Rescue Ratchet vs. Decepticon Brawl''' (Legends &quot;Allspark Battles&quot; two-pack, 2007)<br /> <br /> :Released as part of the ''AllSpark Battles'' refresh of the Movie toyline, Legends class Rescue Ratchet is, naturally, a redeco of the previously-released Legends class Ratchet in his white ''Generation 1''-inspired colors. He comes packed with an all-new sculpt Legends class Brawl.<br /> {{-}}<br /> ====Voyager Class toys====<br /> [[Image:Movie Voyager Ratchet toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|This green is both NEON and PLAYSKOOL.]]<br /> *'''Autobot Ratchet''' (Voyager Class, 2007)<br /> **''Japanese ID number:'' '''MA-02'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' Roof rack/claw<br /> <br /> :Voyager ''Movie'' Ratchet transforms into a [[wikipedia:Hummer_H2|AM General Hummer H2]], customised as a fire search and rescue vehicle. Ratchet is also missing significant amounts of paint applications, with unpainted wheels, emergency tools, and light details, as well as a underpainted face, resulting in a rather monochromatic toy.<br /> <br /> :During transformation, unfolding his legs will activate his [[Automorph|Automorphing]] feature, which folds out his kneepads and feet, and 'bulges' out two small panels along his inner calves. The only Autobot toy to not feature a ranged weapon, Ratchet's right forearm unfolds into an axe (based upon a weapon concept study), and the removable rollbar/roof rack can either be mounted on his left arm as a shield/claw, or stored on his back.<br /> <br /> :Oddly, although Ratchet's thumbs are articulated, space is so restricted that they are all but useless. His left thumb can only move a millimeter due to his wrist armour getting in the way. His right thumb does have more space to move, but pushing it will invariably disengage the fold-out axe from his forearm.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[Image:Movie Voyager RescueRatchet.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Hasbro proving that anything looks better as a slavish G1 homage.]]<br /> *'''Rescue Ratchet''' (Voyager Class, 2007)<br /> **''Accessories:'' Roof rack/claw<br /> <br /> :Rescue Ratchet is an extensive [[redeco]] based in part upon ''Generation 1'' [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet's]] [[Marvel]] comics appearance. Aside from the deco and name change, the toy is otherwise the same in functionality to the previous Voyager class release.<br /> <br /> :Oddly for a deco described as being ''more'' likely for the type of vehicle, Rescue Ratchet's vehicle mode—a fire search and rescue vehicle—is prominently labeled &quot;AMBULANCE.&quot;<br /> {{-}}<br /> [[Image:Movie Voyager Premium Ratchet.jpg|right|250px|thumb|And yet they&amp;#39;ve done nothing to put better coloring on my legs....]]<br /> *'''Autobot Ratchet''' (Best Buy exclusive &quot;Premium Series&quot; Voyager Class, 2007)<br /> **''Accessories:'' Roof rack/claw<br /> <br /> :Ratchet was one of the first figures in the ''Premium Series'', released on October 16th, 2007 exclusively at Best Buy for the launch of the ''Transformers'' movie DVD. Ratchet's main plastic has been changed to a metallic yellow, with an additional coat of metallic yellow paint over the top of those parts (and others), resulting in a much more accurate colour scheme in relation to the actual ''Movie'' character and prop vehicle.<br /> <br /> :Ratchet was presented in robot mode, within a special display package similar in shape to the packaging for the Hasbro release of ''Generation 1'' ''Masterpiece'' [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. Even though Hasbro officially considers him as part of the Premium Series, this is not indicated anywhere on the packaging, as the Premium Series wasn't officially announced until ''after'' Ratchet and [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] had already been released to stores.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====Fast Action Battlers====<br /> [[Image:FABRatchet.jpg|right|250px|thumb|An axe that shoots missiles. Seriously.]]<br /> *'''Axe Attack Autobot Ratchet''' (Fast Action Battler, 2007)<br /> **''Japanese ID number:'' '''QC-03'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' Missile<br /> <br /> {{charstubtoys}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> [[Image:Mov2007-toy RescueTorchRatchet.JPG|right|250px|thumb|]]<br /> *'''Rescue Torch Ratchet''' (Fast Action Battler, 2008)<br /> **''Accessories:'' Missile<br /> <br /> {{charstubtoys}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> ====Cyber Slammers====<br /> [[Image:CyberSlammersRatchet.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Even the Throttlebots didn&amp;#39;t want me.]]<br /> *'''Autobot Ratchet''' (Cyber Slammer, 2007)<br /> <br /> :Cyber Slammers Ratchet is a cute little super-deformed Hummer H2 that transforms into a cute little super-deformed Autobot medical officer. 'Slam' his robot mode down into van mode and he rolls along, slowly transforming back up into vehicle mode. Like most Cyber Slammers, Ratchet manages to cram most of his vehicle mode's major details into a compact, super-deformed version of that mode.<br /> {{-}}<br /> ====Titanium Series====<br /> [[Image:Movie TitaniumRM Ratchet.jpg|right|140px|thumb|Ratchet rejects your measly attempts to paint his face.]]<br /> *'''Autobot Ratchet''' (3&quot; Robot Masters, 2007)<br /> **''Accessories:'' Movie-style Autobot sigil display stand<br /> <br /> :''Titanium'' Ratchet is a die-cast metal and plastic figurine, with an accurate sculpt based on the CG model owing to the fact he doesn't need to transform. Being a figurine, he only has articulation in his shoulders, neck and waist. For some odd reason most of his face is left unpainted. Ratchet comes with a Movie-style Autobot symbol display stand. <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Revenge of the Fallen===<br /> ====Legends Class toys====<br /> [[Image:Ratchet ROTF Legends toy.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Just as Don and Andrew foretold!]]<br /> *'''Ratchet''' (Legends, 2009)<br /> **''Japanese ID number:'' '''EZ-07''' <br /> <br /> :This Legends class Ratchet is a tan [[redeco]] (sigh) of Ratchet's 2007 Legends class Toy. <br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====Deluxe Class toys====<br /> *'''Ratchet''' (Deluxe, 2009/2010)<br /> **''Accessories:'' Gun, projectile<br /> <br /> :Deluxe class Ratchet is an all-new mold that is more accurate to Ratchet's final robot mode design when compared to his Voyager class toys. However, his vehicle mode has been changed to something akin to a military Humvee, albeit in Ratchet's distinctive emergency rescue regalia. He also features a new weapon that resembles the arm-mounted machine gun that Ratchet uses in the films (replacing the inaccurate axe of the older toy); it fires a translucent blue [[missile]], and can be attached to Deluxe [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]], echoing the interactive features of their ''[[Ratchet (Animated)|Animated]]'' [[Lockdown (Animated)|counterparts']] toys. <br /> <br /> {{comingsoontoy}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====Voyager Class toys====<br /> [[Image:ROTF_Voyager_DesertRatchet_toy.jpg|thumb|250px|What the hell, Hasbro? You couldn't afford the other half of the emergency stripe?]]<br /> *'''Desert Tracker Ratchet''' (Voyager, 2009)<br /> **''Japanese ID number:'' '''RA-08'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' Roof rack/claw <br /> <br /> :Ratchet is a barely redecoed version of the Voyager class Ratchet toy released in 2007, the only new decos being the change of his black plastic to dark grey and a &quot;dirt&quot; wash on his doors and shoulders. In a probable effort to cut costs, Hasbro has removed several decos that existed on the 2007 toy, such as half of the Emergency stripe on the sides of the vehicle, the red paint for the light bar and the turn signal lights.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====Fast Action Battlers====<br /> [[Image:ROTF_FAB_Ratchet_toy.jpg|thumb|250px|Lol @ Voyager, I have more paint apps than you! ]]<br /> *'''Beam Blast Autobot Ratchet''' (Fast Action Battler, 2009)<br /> **''Accessories:'' Missile<br /> <br /> :This toy is a redeco of the 2007 Fast Action Battlers Autobot Ratchet, now done in a sort of &quot;impractical army&quot; camouflage colour scheme.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====Robot Replicas====<br /> [[Image:ROTF RobotReplicas Ratchet.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Damn it Prime, I&amp;#39;m a doctor not a gunslinger!]]<br /> *'''Autobot Ratchet''' (Robot Replica, 2009)<br /> <br /> {{charstubtoys}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Merchandise==<br /> ===Transformers (2007)===<br /> [[Image:Movie Ratchet Allsparkblaster.jpg|right|150px|thumb|The irony that the medic gets firearm merchandise, though the weapons specialist doesn&amp;#39;t.]]<br /> *'''Ratchet AllSpark Blaster''' (2008)<br /> <br /> :The Ratchet AllSpark Blaster is one of several Movie Roleplay toys. The toy consists of a a blaster attached to Ratchet's (hollow) hand which a child can slip their own hand inside like a glove and wield. Pulling the trigger causes the toy to emit transformation sounds, allowing the user to transform the toy weapon from laser blaster mode to battle cannon mode, by pulling the handle on the back. Laser blaster mode features features siren and laser sounds and a &quot;triple laser light&quot;, while the battle cannon mode has cannon blasting sounds and a &quot;weapon-blast light&quot;. <br /> {{-}}<br /> ===Unleashed===<br /> [[Image:Movie UnleashedTurnarounds RatchetJazz.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Their descision to light a campfire in the Ruby Crystal Mines of Burma really pissed Ratchet off......]]<br /> *'''Autobot Ratchet and Autobot Jazz''' (2008)<br /> <br /> :The Ratchet and Jazz turnaround is a 3D sculpture of the two characters, both in robot mode, emerging from rubble and explosions, with a movie-accurate sculpt (compared to the various transforming toys). The 'turnaround' aspect of these sculptures simply means one can turn the piece around to display a raised-relief of the movie-style Autobot sigil instead.<br /> <br /> :This product's release was cancelled for the US market, but was released in Australia and in Asia.<br /> {{-}}<br /> ====Transformers Movie Screen Cleaners====<br /> [[Image:Movie Ratchet screencleaner.jpg|right|105px|thumb|]]<br /> *'''Autobot Ratchet''' (2008)<br /> <br /> :Released by Tomy Yujin on January 2008&lt;ref name=TomyYujin&quot;&gt;[http://www.gachausa.com/products/transformers.asp Tomy Yujin ''Transformers'' page]&lt;/ref&gt;, this Dangler is a faction logo-shaped screen cleaner for your cell phone, with a stock image of Ratchet printed on the other side.<br /> {{-}}<br /> ===Revenge of the Fallen===<br /> ====RPMs - Robot Powered Machines====<br /> =====Combat Series=====<br /> [[Image:ROTF RPMs Ratchet.jpg|right|250px|thumb|&amp;quot;Did anyone get the number of that hummer that ran me over?&amp;quot;]]<br /> *'''Autobot Ratchet''' (2009)<br /> **''Number:'' '''01 of 04'''<br /> <br /> {{comingsoontoy}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> ===Robot Heroes===<br /> *'''Autobot Ratchet and Megatron''' (2007)<br /> <br /> [[Image:Robot Heroes Ratchet vs Megatron.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Going my way?]]<br /> :''[[Robot Heroes]]'' Autobot Ratchet is a soft-plastic figurine sculpted in a [[super-deformed]] style, with joints at his head and shoulders. He can place one hand on his hip and raise his thumbs-up arm for hitch-hiking fun.<br /> {{-}}<br /> *'''The Final Battle''' (2008) <br /> <br /> [[Image:Robotheroesfinalbattle.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Infected with herpe-- er, Allspark Power.]]<br /> :Sold exclusively in Wal-Mart stores, this release of Ratchet is a repaint of the first Robot Heroes toy. Sold with redecoed Autobot Jazz, Blackout, Optimus Prime, and Megatron, no molding was changed on this toy. However, the figure boasts an &quot;Allspark blue&quot; paint job, which swaps out a few of the toy's original decos with the bright blue paint instead.<br /> {{-}}<br /> *'''Battle for the Allspark''' (2009)<br /> [[Image:RobotHeroes_BattlefortheAllspark.jpg|300px|thumb|right|]]<br /> :Packaged in a set depicting the battle in [[Mission City]] with [[Brawl (Movie)|Decepticon Brawl]], [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], plus new figures of [[Sam Witwicky]], [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] in truck mode, [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] in fighter mode and Bumblebee in vehicle mode, this Ratchet Heroes figurine has the circular saw on his arm that he uses to slice off Brawl's left arm.<br /> <br /> {{comingsoontoy}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> [[Image:Bprocter ratchetdev.jpg|thumb|250px|Early Ratchet laughs at your premature rejection.]]<br /> <br /> *Ratchet was originally going to be a red/white &quot;offroad emergency truck&quot; fire department vehicle, not a medical ambulance. Reputedly{{fact}}, it was due to the [[fandom]] uproar over this change that Ratchet became an ambulance later in the development of the live-action movie (or as much of an ambulance that a Hummer with stuff slapped on the back of it can be). However, in the transition from &quot;fire rescue vehicle&quot; to &quot;ambulance&quot;, Ratchet's main color became high visibility yellow... which sent the fandom into an uproar once more. Schadenfreude!<br /> <br /> * Ratchet's early design would later go on to inspire the [[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us]] exclusive [[Inferno (Movie)|Inferno]].<br /> <br /> *According to [[Meet the Autobots]], Ratchet has X-ray vision, which lets him see for miles.<br /> <br /> *In the hardcover ''Movie Guide'', it is noted that Ratchet can cannibalize his own parts for emergency treatment of a patient; he carries within him redundant systems for such situations. (This only turns up once in a story though, in [[Transformers Comic issue 16|one of Titan's issues]]) He can also tow up to 300 lbs over his own weight in vehicle form, and his specialization isn't listed as being a medic, but in actually '''getting''' to the wounded.<br /> <br /> *In the hardcover ''Movie Guide'' it is noted that Ratchet is one of the few Autobots that could conceivably give Megatron a decent fight one-on-one before being dismembered and fed upon.<br /> <br /> *In the Transformers guide to the movie, the book proclaims that &quot;Ratchet carefully chose his landing site to avoid loss of human life.&quot; Yet he is seen crashing in the middle of the street, causing fires and several minor explosions. Maybe Ratchet ''thought'' he was avoiding loss of human life. <br /> <br /> *Ratchet's toy packaging proclaims he has an &quot;Automorph Forearm Cannon&quot;. However, the toy obviously lacks this weapon. At the Hasbro Tour during Botcon 2007, an early design [[prototype]] of Ratchet was displayed during a slide show, with similar callouts. Presumably, the forearm cannon was attempted, but dropped due to either engineering issues or cost.<br /> <br /> *Ratchet's toys are part of a matrix of cross-referencing [[Redeco|redecos]], along with [[Ratchet (Animated)|''Animated'' Ratchet]] and [[Ratchet (G1)|Generation 1 Ratchet]]:<br /> **In 2008, the original Generation 1 Ratchet mold got an [[e-Hobby]] exclusive green redeco in Japan as &quot;Ratchet Emergency Green&quot; in obvious reference to his movie counterpart.<br /> **The red and white &quot;Rescue Ratchet&quot; redecos of movie Ratchet's toys are based on [[Ratchet (G1)|Generation 1 Ratchet]]'s original toy. <br /> **''Animated'' Ratchet, his original design already referencing both predecessors with Generation 1 Ratchet's chevron and coloring and movie Ratchet's squiggly EEG symbol, had a further homage to the latter with a yellow redeco as (another) &quot;Rescue Ratchet&quot;.<br /> <br /> *In the film, a part of Ratchet's transformation involves his entire upper body rotating around. The toy does not do this, but [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]'s does.<br /> <br /> *Contrary to what is implied or outright stated by everything from the Rescue Ratchet deco to the words of the moviemakers themselves, Ratchet is ''not,'' in fact, an ambulance.<br /> <br /> ==Footnotes==<br /> &lt;references /&gt;<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> * [http://www.tfu.info/2007/Autobot/Ratchet/ratchet.htm Ratchet at TFU.info]<br /> <br /> [[Category:3D Battle-Cards]]<br /> [[Category:Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Medics]]<br /> [[Category:NEST]]<br /> [[Category:Movie characters]]<br /> [[Category:Revenge of the Fallen characters]]<br /> [[Category:Robot Heroes]]</div>

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