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'''We do not care about set leaks. Do not tell us who you saw on the set. Unless you can [[Help:Official info|source it in an official press release or reputable news source]], we do not care. Please stop telling us who you saw in set photography.'''

== Release date ==

This page claims a release date of 1 July 2011, yet one of the sources given ([http://tformers.com/transformers-/11777/news.html]) gives a release date of 4 July 2012. Which is correct? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:25, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
: That Tformers source is from months ago, before the release date was moved up. --[[Special:Contributions/67.149.197.71|67.149.197.71]] 12:59, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
::Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/199.90.28.195|199.90.28.195]] 15:21, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

Ik hoop dat Transformers 3 is heel beter dan RotF. Of anders... [[Special:Contributions/71.254.158.28|71.254.158.28]] 22:46, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

== Image ==

Wikipedia has a picture of a Transformers 3 titlecard. Should it be put here too? And Megan Fox should be added to the cast list.
--[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 22:48, 3 December 2009 (EST)
:[https://michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/a2bd79bb4c222b807e27707aaf1497e6-570.html michaelbay.com] does confirm Megan Fox, so she could be included with the reference, but I don't know where that image came from. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:56, 3 December 2009 (EST)
::Said titlecard would be from Hasbro's Investor Day presentation back on November 5. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:44, 3 December 2009 (EST)
:::Well, then somebody put those things here already --[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 20:01, 7 December 2009 (EST)
:::I'm waiting...--[[Special:Contributions/142.32.208.231|142.32.208.231]] 15:06, 14 January 2010 (EST)
just take off the picture its inapropriote for the kid users {{unsigned|208.102.3.1|15:53, 12 June 2010 (EDT)}}
:The movies themselves are pretty kid-inappropriate. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 16:00, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
::a silhouette of a woman is not appropriate for kid users? They'd see worse on billboards. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:21, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
:::I'm not too crazy about the image, but I don't think it's too terribly bad [it's nothing compared to some of the Kiss Player stuff or the drawing of Wheelie lifting Teletraan-15's skirt; that stuff troubles me (yes, I know that's the nature of the Kiss Player beast)]. Besides, I have a feeling that the James Bond-ish pic will be removed as soon as we get some pics of the movie posters (might still see it on the Rosie article, though). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:52, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
I can add a photo of promotional poster/sign/thing that was part of Hasbro's public-facing booth display at Licensing Expo 2010 (it was next to a Bumblebee Camaro and a life-sized Bumblebee replica). It's a cell phone quality photograph, but it's got Prime in.
--[[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 17:42, 20 June 2010 (EDT)
:You might want to just upload the picture, then ask on its Talk Page if it cuts the mustard for this wiki (that's what I did for my pics of Movie Payload; good thing I did because it didn't cut the mustard). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 20:05, 20 June 2010 (EDT)
::[http://skitch.com/wednesday/djnmu/tf3-poster-shot-a I can do that.] I'd need to crop it down a bit. [[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 01:07, 21 June 2010 (EST)
:::Pretty! We can definitely use that. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:26, 21 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Grainy, but purty. I know I'm just a commoner here, but I believe it can be used until a sharper image is available. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 15:14, 21 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::Did I say 'grainy'? It looks much better when shrunk down. Good job, Walky, and thanks, Wednesday. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:32, 21 June 2010 (EDT)

== James Avery as Silverbot? ==
[http://unscripted.ca/episodes/show/136] --[[User:Eagc7]]

== New Actor Info ==

...is that seriously for real and not an early April Fool's prank on someone's part? Because... WTF? Who ever heard of Frances McDormand and John Malkovich doing anything in a Transformers movie? XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 10:54, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:Hey now. Mrs. McDormand was in Aeon Flux, so it's not like she's above Hollywood fluff. And John Malkovich is in Jonah Hex and did things like Johnny English in the past. The Transformers film franchise attracted Hugo Weaving, Jon Voight and Robert Foxworth before them, so I don't see why other notable actors being cast would be such a shock. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:14, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
::Weaving and Foxworth, at least, are both actors who've done mainstream scifi franchise stuff before, so I wasn't surprised by them at all, actually. But I always thought of McDormand and Malkovich as being more artsy movie types. (Maybe I'm just still skeptical that TF3's script is going to be less horrible than TF2's.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:30, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:::Yes, well, as I pointed out, it's not ''all'' they do. McDormand was in Aeon Flux. Malkovich is in a comic book film and was in a Rowan Atkinson comedy once, just to name a few. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:37, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Michael Bay signs biiiiiiiig paycheck* That's why :p --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:31, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:::::John Malkovich should totally play Dr. Arkeville. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:41, 22 March 2010 (EDT)

== Possible Titles? ==

Has anyone else heard these rumours about the possible titles: Rise of The Primes/Unicron/Galvatron. It is unlikely to be true, but should it be put in the notes, maybe? [[User:Titanus Prime|Titanus Prime]] 14:27, 30 March 2010 (EDT)
:We do not talk about crackpot rumours on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:32, 30 March 2010 (EDT)
::As soon as we get an official title, perhaps some of the rumored titles could be noted. Some, not all of them (maybe one or two likely titles and one off-the-wall one). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:54, 30 March 2010 (EDT)

== Twins, Ironhide and Ratchet on TF3 ==

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-3-on-set-pictures---a-new-look-for-ratchet-169662/

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/first-behind-the-scenes-video-from-transformers-3-169679/ --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 0:13, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:These are not official sources. A Humvee does not mean Ratchet WILL get a new paintjob, and a flying car does not indicate the Twins being in the film. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:43, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
::Well one guy sayed that skids Would Apepar and throw a car (samrt car) it he sayed that before the video apepared and the video Looks like what he syaed but like you sayed they not offical source, still --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 01:15, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:::Bay Confirms tiwns are nto in tf3, but still the chevy spark/beat were spotted on set http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-spark-transformers-3.html--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
::::That's still not an official source. If you can find a link where Bay or someone involved with the production says they're in, then that would do. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:35, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/new-transformers-3-on-set-pictures---including-a-clear-view-of-ratchets-new-look-169900/ Isn't this enough to prove that Ratchet and Ironhide will return?--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 04:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::Not really. For example, the "Ratchet" could just be a fire department truck assigned as part of a NEST unit. Or it could have been painted up after the second movie in expectation of him being used in the third, but before a decision was made not to use him. The bottom line is that those aren't officially released photos. This isn't an "OMG look what I know that you don't site" trying to beat everyone to the punch by making half-baked predictions, it is an archive of what has been officially shown. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:10, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::I don't think so. That ambulance is too similar. Hummer H2 and Autobot symbol on it. Autobot symbols are only used in Autobot alternate mode vehicles. NEST vehicles have no symbols or they have NEST logo. And what about Ironhide? Images are excatly enough to confirmation. These should be enough. There are no more proofs needed.--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 22:46, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::Doesn't matter. Those aren't OFFICIAL photos. They weren't released by Hasbro, Bay or anyone who has any control over things. They are, in effect, STOLEN intellectual property and DO NOT belong here. Whether your contentions turn out to be true or not is irrelevant. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:39, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Not only that, Michael Bay and others are on the record that they're intentionally spreading false info. Remember how there were sightings of Barricade around the time RotF was filming? - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:06, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::The pics have been confirmed and both ratchet and Ironhide have official pics with them being next to optimus prime and bumblebee and Ratchet still has his ''new'' colors. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 16:27 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Nope, we still don't count 'em unless Michael, Don, Nelson, or anyone directly affiliated/working on TF3 comes up and says so. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 16:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::Why is this such a hard concept. Unless any new photo/news is released by Hasbro itself or one of the authorities in charge of the film it does not go on the wiki. <Cheetor> PERIOD. <Cheetor).--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 17:13, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::Meh noone blevies they are i nmovie, WELL Lets wiat til lfilmngi begisn and you guys will see these pcis are REAL!!! {{unsigned|Eagc7|20:11, 10 June 2010 (EDT)}}
:::It's not a case of not believing they're in the movie. I would say most people believe it. It's a case of these pictures being leaked information without official confirmation. And we don't include that sort of info on the wiki. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:14, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Right. This info might be "obvious", but sometimes leaked info is less obvious and open to interpretation. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and no leaked info ever is pretty clear. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 21:00, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
:I have no idea will the Twins really appear or not. But I'm sure Ratchet and Ironhide would still return. Bay has denied appearance of the Twins twice. But as he or anyone lese part of the production says nothing to it, I've no reason to believe that they won't appear. - [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 14:32, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
::True, but you have no official evidence that they will appear. Therefore, the wiki remains silent on their appearance or non-appearance in TF3. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:42, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
:::Looks like someone misunderstood. My point wasn't that their names should be added to the cast list.- [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 15:44, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Then what the heck WAS your point? This whole thread has been about whether or not these characters are confirmed as part of the cast of the new movie! --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)

== Megan Fox ==
She was reportediy axed due to a want not to have Sam tied down with a love intrest.
http://movies.yahoo.com/news/usmovies.accesshollywood.com/megan-fox-dropped-from-transformers-3
:Reuters.com states it's due to Bay and company wishing to go a different direction. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64J04920100520 Bottom line, Fox is gone. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 21:32, 19 May 2010 (EDT)
::That news about Fox(cited) should probably be front and center in her own article, rather than down the bottom in trivia. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:11, 20 May 2010 (EDT)

== Shockwave Has villian and FInal Film in the franchise ==

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/308221-transformers-3-movie-details-possible-spoilers-2.html
:The above link is to the second page of a forum thread about an article ABOUT the article in question. Here's the actual article: http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2010-06-11-Transformers11_ST_N.htm?csp=usat.me -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:21, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
::For those who don't feel like reading through it: no more goofball humor; twins are basically gone; new love interest for Sam; Shockwave is new villain; involves USA/USSR space race; characters who die stay dead this time. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:30, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

== DINOBOTS? ==

In a interview with Josh Duhamel was asked if the dinobots are going to be in TF3,and he sayed that ''I can't answer that question'' which pretty much confirms that the Dinobots are going to be in it like they did with devastator in ROTF.so can we add them? {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 02:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:His deflection of the question doesn't "pretty much" confirm anything. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:39, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
How so, he is playing coy and by now its common sense that when they do that it means its coming.Mis-information campaign. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 11:27, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:That's not official confirmation. Besides, Josh Duhamel is just an actor; for all we know, Lennox might not interact with the Dinobots. He might not even know who the Dinobots are. For now, they aren't confirmed. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 11:32, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
::"he is playing coy and by now its common sense that when they do that it means its coming.Mis-information campaign." But he could be acting that way to make you think he means the Dinobots are in it when they really aren't. That's the thing about mis-information campaigns, you never really know what it all means until the movie comes out. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:17, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:::So in short, ''wait'' until Paramount or Bay or other reporting agencies outright says either the Dinobots are going to show up or not. Better accuracy that way. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 13:44, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

== SIDESWIPE ==

Sideswipe was spotted on set.And YES michael bay and crew members were their so can we count that as confirmination? --[[User:Primetime]] 13:49,18 June 2010 (EDT)
:Source? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:52, 18 June 2010 (EDT)
Transformers 3 - Update # 12 ( Filming Locations, Mark Ryan Interview and more!) --[[User:Primetime]] 13:55,18 June 2010 (EDT)

Dear God. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:56, 18 June 2010 (EDT)

I Found a video with Be,, swipe and ferrari on set can i psot it? --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
:'''''NO.''''' We've been over this countless times before, for the first film and for Revenge of the Fallen and now for this: We do not post anything that has not been officially released or revealed by Hasbro, Paramount or Michael Bay. This video was shot without authorization by onlookers on set and is not official. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:03, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

== Disclaimer ==

Do we need using a disclaimer/notice on the page[http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Transformers_3_(film) for reference] (not only the talk page), too? Since some users (especially new comers or anons) usually edit the page without reading the talk page first. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 04:55, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
:An excellent idea. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 12:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

== MARK RYAN ==

Mark Ryan the previous voice for bumblebee sayed in a interview that he was going to be doing several voices for characters(possible bumblebee).Since we don't know who he will be voicing but this is OFFICIAL can we put this in the notes section or take it in consideration?You can find the interview on the site.--[[User:Primetime]] 13:36, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/
:That doesn't seem to say anything about him doing the on-screen voices, just that on-set voices (as he's always done). Bumblebee is not a guarantee, either. His only known line as Bumblebee in ROTF was cut. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:54, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

== Why ==

So let me get this straight...ummmm...so we can't add characters that were seen in videos or set pics.It safely confirms them so It seems strange that we cant add them it seems a little too...uptight(e.g.Ratchet,Primes G1 style trailer).Don't start bashing me and chewing me out.I just need a calm and good reason why.--[[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 1:20, July 15 2010 (EDT)

: We saw Barricade on set during ROTF's filming. Guess who wasn't in the movie? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:26, 15 July 2010 (EDT)

Yes that's true.But Ratchet, sideswipe, and prime were seen during a big chase scene in chicago with a camera crew.hmmmmm.--[[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 01:47, 15 July 15 2010 (EDT)

:This is Micheal Bay, he probably drives to work every day in a huge car chase, firing an uzi out of his window. Besides, just because they were being filmed doesn't mean they will actually be in the movie. They could easily be cut later. Plus, it is NOT an OFFICIAL SOURCE. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 01:50, 15 July 2010 (EDT)

:Correct. And we only add officially-released information. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 06:51, 15 July 2010 (EDT)

::The simple reason is that this is an archive of things that "have happened" in the Transformers universes, until the movie is released it "hasn't happened yet". --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 15 July 2010 (EDT)

:::And Barricade ''wasn't'' on set during ROTF's filming. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:18, 20 July 2010 (EDT)

"We saw Barricade on set during ROTF's filming. Guess who wasn't in the movie? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]]"

:actually, we did't. His altmode was seen 2 months before filming {{unsigned|24.253.95.14}}

I would have one little question: Are the call sheets trusted information?
--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 7:41, 17 September 2010 (EDT)
:I would say 'no' because Bay could allow phony call sheets to be "leaked". Remember 'The Empire Strikes Back' which had a phony page in the script? I know it's not the same, but it's the same idea. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 09:13, 17 September 2010 (EDT)
::Never heard about that thing with 'The Empire Strikes Back'. --[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 18:34, 17 September 2010 (EDT)
:::The fake page had Vader telling Luke that Obi-Wan killed Luke's dad. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 14:24, 17 September 2010 (EDT)
:::: Obi-Wan kills Luke's Dad? D@mn it, SPOILERS, MAN! Those of us watching through the Clone Wars cartoon to get the story in order don't want to know what's coming up! -ZacWilliam (not signed in and unable to resist.)

== Carly? ==
do this Count has offical Confirmation or not? http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?7552-Every-Little-Girl-Should-Be-Told-That-She-s-Pretty-Even-if-She-s-Not.&p=143091#post143091
:I'm so baffled by this I forgot the overblown "NO" reaction I had planned. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 13:20, 20 July 2010 (EDT)
::[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?7566-Transformers-3-Chicago-Set-Photos I guess it's official now.] Also, his news post on Bay's site apparently reveals [https://michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/6e7f5a008e98162953abdfdfca1d32e8-612.php the name of the Ferrari Autobot]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:36, 20 July 2010 (EDT)
:::Darn, I was pulling for a Bewitched-esque "No, Mikaela's always looked like this". --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:48, 20 July 2010 (EDT)
::::He edited the front page news. Now it says the Ferrari is parked on Rush Street. That's a weird screw up... --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:19, 20 July 2010 (EDT)

== Optimus' Trailer ==

There have been multiple pictures and videos of a semi truck with flames driving a trailer which heavily resembles [[Optimus]]' trailer from G1. The truck is a different truck than the two previous films which does support his redesign. Should we mention it?
:What were the sources of those pictures? Were they from Paramount? From mainstream news programs? From some guy hiding in the bushes and taking pictures with his cell phone? ONLY officially released information may go on this page. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:53, 22 July 2010 (EDT)

==Soundwave's Return==
Is it safe to put Soundwave on the character list since his head was seen on set?
:As the page says, repeatedly and in big letters, SET LEAKS DO NOT COUNT.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 00:49, 24 July 2010 (EDT)
::Is there any way that the Edit button could be rerouted to a page that only reads (and perhaps states audiably) "If your info is from a set leak, don't post it here!"? I know that's virtually impossible, but I (and I'm certain quite a number of those here) are frustrated that these scoop hounds don't seem to understand what "officially released information" is. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 08:24, 24 July 2010 (EDT)
:::The page itself is semi-protected, which already keeps our signal-to-noise pretty good.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 13:24, 24 July 2010 (EDT)

== Rush ==
Where's Rush? He's official, in the movie and confirmed. He should be on the character list
--[[Special:Contributions/92.238.181.196|92.238.181.196]] 13:02, 24 July 2010 (EDT)
:Source? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:17, 24 July 2010 (EDT)
::I haven't seen Geddy Lee in any of these pictures. - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] 13:19, 24 July 2010 (EDT)

Who's Geddy Lee? And it DID say Rush was the red ferrari but they must have changed it. That does not make it wrong. You cant just put a character in and remove it when it was confirmed before. Rush seems accurate and its clear they could not miss out the "st" the first time round. Its pure logic. --[[Special:Contributions/92.238.181.196|92.238.181.196]] 13:31, 24 July 2010 (EDT)
:Now it says that the Ferrari is parked on Rush Street. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:31, 24 July 2010 (EDT)
::That is NOT logic. It's quite possible that a picture could have been labeled Rush (no "St") as an indication of location. This note could easily have been misinterpreted by someone who didn't know the location as a name and posted. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:34, 24 July 2010 (EDT)

You are perhaps aware of Michael Bay's admission that he likes to spread misinformation right up to the day his movies are released?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 13:38, 24 July 2010 (EDT)

OK so lots of people were mislead as well. And who is Geddy Lee and what has he got to do with the movie? --[[Special:Contributions/92.238.181.196|92.238.181.196]] 13:45, 24 July 2010 (EDT)
:Geddy Lee is the lead singer for the rock band Rush. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 13:45, 24 July 2010 (EDT)
::If Rush is in this movie, I will line up for tickets. "Closer to the heart!" -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:41, 24 July 2010 (EDT)

== Page edit ==

I was correcting a grammar error when the human list (and Sam Witwicky) were deleted, moving everyone else to the Decepticons. Can anyone help? -- [[User:Shackwave123|Shackwave123]] 9:33, 28 July 2010 (EDT)
:If </ref> is forgotten from a footnote, it happens. Same thing happened to me once, when I got a permission to edit this page. --[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 10:00, 6 August 2010 (EDT)

== Jolt ==

I know this isn't confirmed but look at this. [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/310669-tf3-info-regarding-jolt-confirmed-i-am-100-certain-details-inside.html [1]] But it may be helpful in the future! [[User:Erimal|Erimal]] 22:06, 29 July 2010 (EDT)
:We can't accept "insider source" info like that, nor is it truthfully helpful, and we don't care for info like that. As we said many, ''many'', '''many''' times, the '''''ONLY''''' sources of info that we'll accept is: A) directly from the press, B) directly from Michael or Steven themselves, C) directly from Nelson, Michael's webmaster. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:18, 29 July 2010 (EDT)
::I'm afraid Jolt won't return. Check this: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/nelson---no-jolt-for-transformers-3-170344/ --[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 10:37, 3 August 2010 (EDT)

== Nelson - Michael Bay's webmaster ==

How do we classify Nelson's comments? Like he posts official news and filmed official hype videos of the Chicago set, and does things with (presumably) Michael Bay's authorisation, but he's also been linking youtube videos by people (unofficially) filming the Chicago set on the front page of Bay's website, videos that reveal things that have not yet been "officially" revealed. So we pick and choose what he says and does based upon what we think is "official" and what is merely him drumming up hype for the movie? I ask because he revealed what the three Nascars (seen in both youtube videos, unofficial set photos AND Nelson's own official set visit video) are referred to as on set at TFW2005, but I don't know how to classify that comment. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:52, 30 July 2010 (EDT)
:I'm inclined to go with Nelson's confirmations/denials on the boards, but videos we should hold off since we don't have context to go with it. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 00:05, 31 July 2010 (EDT)
::Yeah, I think if Nelson confirms stuff, we should take that as official word. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 04:05, 31 July 2010 (EDT)
:::http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2010/08/new-autobot-arrives-and-more-boom.html Nelson confirmed this new Autobot vehicle. It's a fire truck, but it's not Inferno or Hot Spot. --[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 09:11, 3 August 2010 (EDT)

== The Wreckers? ==

Should we include this? ([http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/UnForgottenHero/news/?a=20901]) --[[User:HeyTFWiki|HeyTFWiki]] 03:43, 31 July 2010 (EDT)
:I am asking that very question above your edit. Also, please sign off on your comments. It's the signature-looking button, or just type four of these <nowiki>~</nowiki> --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:57, 31 July 2010 (EDT)
::I'd feel better about including the Wreckers story if they included a link to the forum post in question in their news story. I can't even find a link to the forums on that site! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 04:00, 31 July 2010 (EDT)
:::I found the post, unfortunately the staffer at TFW who reported it is rather inexperienced and gets overexcited, so he forgot to link to the post. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:06, 31 July 2010 (EDT)
::::I'm just sayin'. --[[User:HeyTFWiki|HeyTFWiki]] 04:14, 31 July 2010 (EDT)
:::::Just clarified my above statement. I added the Wreckers thing to the page a few odd minutes ago :) --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:46, 31 July 2010 (EDT)
::::::Hope I contributed a big thing :D. By the way, [[User:FFN|FFN]] are you the only one who can edit Transformers 3 --[[User:HeyTFWiki|HeyTFWiki]] 05:00, 31 July 2010 (EDT)

== Einstein Bot not "Q" ==
Nelson confirmed that the "Q" thing was not true information and commented that he didn't know where the confirmation came from. It should probably be taken down, as "Q" seems to merely be a hint as to who it is, but not a potential name. Link is [http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?7595-Ok-has-the-bot-list-got-crazy-or-what!/page3 here]. --[[User:Faded-Myth|Faded-Myth]] 21:01, 2 August 2010 (EDT)
:Thanks. I am vindicated of my belief of that NIBMRatchet guy's overeager incompetence. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:18, 2 August 2010 (EDT)
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/more-transformers-3-spoilers-and-rumors-from-detroit-170570/ Though I read this article, I can't say that Wheeljack's name should be added onto cast list of the film. Word from extra casted people from Detroit filming can't be fully trusted. Even extra casted actors can have misinformation. --[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 18:34, 14 September 2010 (EDT)
:We're not until Nelson, Bay himself, Spielberg himself, or Murphy says otherwise. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:39, 14 September 2010 (EDT)
::To CAJH - What part of "We do not care about set leaks. Do not tell us who you saw on the set. Unless you can source it in an official press release or reputable news source, we do not care. Please stop telling us who you saw in set photography." do you not understand? NONE of the various things you have brought here have been official information. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 18:51, 14 September 2010 (EDT)
:::I told you all that information from the previous link can't be fully trusted. Are you saying that because of that, I still shouldn't have even add it here? --[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 8:38, 15 September 2010 (EDT)
:::And besides, this discussion page is to talk about the movie, not for collecting official information. So, there's no reason I would have done anything wrong. --[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 8:41, 15 September 2010 (EDT)
::::Wrong. This is not a chat room or a message board. These talk pages are for discussions relevant to the Wiki and its articles. Just discussing movie speculation is not for here. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:13, 15 September 2010 (EDT)
:::Wait a second, you think that even Nelson's words about Jolt's not returning to film and Wheelie's return can't be trusted? "NONE of the various things you have brought here have been official information." I know this page must have an official information revealed. An information that is revealed by any member of the filming crew or producers of the movie. You have no proofs that webmaster's words contain nothing but rumors. That extra casting member who told about Wheeljack or Shockwave can't be fully trusted, but anything else I've added here is not misinformation. Well, anything I've added after I read the rules of these pages.--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 9:07, 15 September 2010 (EDT)
::::All we're saying is that you didn't need to bring it up because we know not to add Wheeljack's name unless otherwise. As for webmasters, both Nelson and Don work WITH Michael directly, so we trust them a lot more than set reports from extras or people working on the set. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:31, 15 September 2010 (EDT)
:::::I wasn't saying it should be added here. But if you say that only links with information that will be necessary are permitted here, then I'll obey.--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 10:05, 15 September 2010 (EDT)
:::::Hey hey, I forgot one thing. That Mercedes car hasn't evem been seen in Detroit. So how could anyone know that the Wheeljack really meant that Mercedes? By no means. I can't believe I didn't write it earlier. --[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 14:49, 15 September 2010 (EDT)

==Wheelie==
Wheelie returns. Confirmed by Nelson. http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/wheelies-back-in-transformers-3-170366/
The sam elink confirms also that the Jeep seen in Chicago is not in movie as we thought. --[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 8:42, 6 August 2010 (EDT)
:Who is "nelson"? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:32, 15 September 2010 (EDT)
::The answer is [[Talk:Transformers_3#Nelson_-_Michael_Bay.27s_webmaster|on this very page]]. But if you don't want to click, Nelson is Michael Bay's webmaster, and here his information is considered an official source. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 09:40, 15 September 2010 (EDT)

==Inferno as new Autobot ?==
yes as new Autobot ::[http://skitch.com/wedenesday/djnmu/tf3-poster-shot-a I can do that.]
:I followed the link and saw this: "This object is not available! Perhaps you should contact wedenesday for more information?". Sorry, ace, but no dice. Everybody with me: "Wait for ''official'' (please denote the "'''official'''" part) news releases about the movie." In other words, if Michael Bay's website or the Associated Press didn't say it, it doesn't go here. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:20, 7 August 2010 (EDT)
::If you mean that firetruck Autobot, you better know this. Nelson told that it's not Inferno. You wanna watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWCkIggT8yk Don't take it as official information, but this will sound very crazy. - [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 13:52, 29 August 2010 (EDT)

==MEGATRON==
Megatron is coming back for Transformers 3 so why does his name keep getting removed from the cast his face has being seen pinned up in Chicago. Check out the Link. http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/megatron-returns-for-transformers-3-170294/ --{{unsigned|Plo Koon 1}} 14:58, 25 August 2010

:READ THE NOTICE AT THE TOP OF THIS PAGE. We do not accept ANY info that was not released by Bay, his webmaster, Hasbro, or Paramount. We take officially released info only and these pictures ARE NOT. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 15:02, 25 August 2010 (EDT)
::And there's always the chance of them changing things mid-shooting. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 15:15, 25 August 2010 (EDT)
:::Plus, may I add that it could be a stand-in for a new baddie? It's cheaper to use a leftover prop than make a new cardboard face. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the guy who slapped that face on the pole didn't even know who it was. It's ''likely'' Megs will be back, but wait for '''''official''''' news. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:49, 25 August 2010 (EDT)

== Decepticons ==

Since when were Megatron, Starscream, and Soundwave confirmed? I've seen them being added a ton of times but I can't find any official source that confirms it. Should those edits be undone or did I just miss something big? --[[User:Kirby|Kirby]] 11:43, 3 September 2010 (EDT)
:Those names were added by a relatively inexperienced editor, I have removed them. Unless he/she can show reliable sources for their being in the movie (not just "but OF COURSE they'll be back... It's Megatron, Starscream, and Soundwave!") they should not be listed. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:03, 3 September 2010 (EDT)
:Yeah, I thought so. I just thought that putting it on the talk page would be better than going right up and reverting it. I've noticed that a lot of my edits are just removing stuff --[[User:Kirby|Kirby]] 12:06, 3 September 2010 (EDT)

User talk:Khajidha/sandbox

2010-09-17T16:01:44Z

99.69.51.218: /* What hasn't turned up is very interesting... */

Anyone willing to go trolling through patent listings? We seem to be missing those for several members of various combiner teams. Perhaps they can be found by cross referencing those we do have? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:54, 13 September 2010 (EDT)

[http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=TjU1AAAAEBAJ&dq (possibly) BioTron (Micronauts)]! --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:57, 13 September 2010 (EDT)
[http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=FH88AAAAEBAJ Lion Force Voltron]! --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:05, 13 September 2010 (EDT)

Don't know what [http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=0Rc9AAAAEBAJ&dp this] is, but I've got one in my box of older TFs at home. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:16, 13 September 2010 (EDT)
:I DO! I DO! That's a takara robo-block figure. They combine together like Legos to build larger stuff. They were sold in the US as ROBOTECH figures. I've got a ton of them! -ZacWilliam (not signed in)
::Thanks Zac! --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:24, 13 September 2010 (EDT)

This is a great find! It's got more recent stuff on too, like the [http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=1dCoAAAAEBAJ Optimus Prime battle rig blaster]! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 15:06, 13 September 2010 (EDT)

Was [http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=nO8vAAAAEBAJ&dq this] a GoBots or a TFs release? I think it was "My First Transformer", but I could be wrong. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 19:42, 13 September 2010 (EDT)
:[http://www.toyarchive.com/Gobots/ScooterBot.html GoBot.] --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:13, 13 September 2010 (EDT)

These are the patents for the Masters of the Universe meteor people - [http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=MxM-AAAAEBAJ&dq 1] & [http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=NBM-AAAAEBAJ&dq 2]. Yeah, they're only tangentially related, just demonstrating that this would work for other fandoms as well. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:30, 15 September 2010 (EDT)
== Leobreaker ==

Might this be Leobreaker? Looks kinda like it to me.
http://www.google.com/patents?id=__eZAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4#v=onepage&q&f=false
:No. The company that filed this is Konami. And it doesn't look a thing like Leobreaker. At all. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:13, 13 September 2010 (EDT)
::FWIW, that's [http://ooebihara.sakura.ne.jp/ganngu/00/ganngu118.htm GunCaesar] from the GranSazer toy line.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 18:44, 13 September 2010 (EDT)

== GoBots ==
[http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=0vY8AAAAEBAJ&dq Tank]
[http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=Xtg9AAAAEBAJ&dq Fitor]
[http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=0fY8AAAAEBAJ&dq Loco]
[http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=oAAuAAAAEBAJ&dq Cy-Kill]
[http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=XNg9AAAAEBAJ&dq Cy-Kill again]
[http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=0_Y8AAAAEBAJ&dq Turbo]
[http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=Uc0xAAAAEBAJ&dq Psycho]
[http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=Xdg9AAAAEBAJ&dq CopTur]
[http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=nO8vAAAAEBAJ&dq GoBots ride on]
[http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=9L0wAAAAEBAJ&dq Binoc]

== Why nothing later? ==

It seems odd that we've found nothing later than the Monsterbots but nearly everything prior. Forgive my ignorance are these patents only made public after a certain amount of time? That might explain why there's nothing from the Pretender years or after? If not anyone have any idea why the info's so "Backheavy" chronologicly speaking? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 07:47, 14 September 2010 (EDT)
:I was wondering this too. If you search for Hasbro and then sort by date, it only lists 4 patents for all of 2009. Even the [http://www.uspto.gov/ US Patent Office] site only seems to return 5 results for Hasbro in 2009. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 08:29, 14 September 2010 (EDT)
::Don't know. It could simply be that no one at the Patent Office has got around to posting them online. Let's not look a gift horse in the mouth, though. This is a simply amazing amount of data. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:45, 14 September 2010 (EDT)
:::Out of curiousity have we started to do pages for the "inventors" and wich figures each created?
::::We may already have pages for some of these designers, if we don't we should make them. I'm planning on resorting this entire page following the checklists for each year, that way we can easily see what remains to be found. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:42, 14 September 2010 (EDT)

== What hasn't turned up is very interesting... ==

No 1984 mini-vehicles, even though their 1986 retools have been found. Reflector is a no-show, but all the Microman Gun Robos and Egg Robos have been found. No Twin Twist or Whirl, even though Topspin and Roadbuster have been found. Oddly, Roadbuster and Jetfire are the only non-Takara TFs that have turned up (no Omega Supreme, Shockwave, Deluxe Insecticons or Sky Lynx). No "Movie" characters except Ultra Magnus, who is really the last of the Diaclone legacy characters. The 1988 line is represented by the combiner cassettes and one each of the Sparkabots, the Autobot Double Targetmasters and the Autobot Small Headmasters. Notably, 1988's Seacons are the only Scramble City style team NOT represented here. And then...nothing. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:56, 17 September 2010 (EDT)
:It is very odd and interesting how abruptly things stop appearing. One wonders if there's either a) a timeframe for release that has not passed or b)perhas at that point some new law changed or came into effect that altered how things were catagorized or something. The other posssibility is that it's an artifact of however the database was created. Some quirk of data entry at the place of downloading that's either left some out or lead to them all not yet being entered digitally? I don't know, I'd love to see the pretender concept or some such... --[[Special:Contributions/99.69.51.218|99.69.51.218]] 12:01, 17 September 2010 (EDT)