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Knock Out (Prime)

2011-06-13T23:54:20Z

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:''Knock Out is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers: Prime (franchise)|Prime]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''
[[Image:DeusExMachina-Knockout.jpg|right|thumb|300px|I'm super, thanks for asking.]]

Sure, [[Starscream (Prime)|other Decepticons]] may scoff at his decision to go with a land-based alternate mode, but '''Knock Out''' couldn't care less. He knows the value of looking ''good'' and isn't afraid to let others know it. It's not simply his own lines he's interested in; he has an appreciation for well-built mechanical bodyforms of all sizes and functions... and a nasty penchant for tearing them apart after he's done admiring them. Slick, sly and snobbish, he's ostensibly the Decepticons' "medic", though he professes both a preference and proficiency for ''dis''-assembly.

Both in the operation room and on the battlefield, Knock Out is rarely without his brutish partner [[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]]. Knock Out is the speedster of the duo, swiftly striking his victim's vulnerables with his [[Energon prod]] in debilitating sneak attacks while Breakdown goes the "massive smackdown" route with his raw power.

{{quote|I'm not only an automobile; I'm an automobile ''enthusiast''.|Knock Out explains to Starscream why he took his alternate mode|"[[Speed Metal]]"}}

==Fiction==
===''Prime'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Daran Norris]] (English)

[[Image:TFPrime_KnockOutDrill.JPG|left|thumb|200px|"Prepare for valmorification!"]]
[[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] called Knock Out and Breakdown to the ''[[Nemesis (Prime)|Nemesis]]'' to help fix [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]]. As they were on an [[energon (fuel)|energon]] trail at the time, only Knock Out initially turned up at the ship, and he was shocked at Megatron's condition. When Breakdown did join them, it was with news that he'd discovered an [[Energon Harvester]] was on [[Earth]]. As the [[Autobot]]s had already surrounded the museum the device was in, Knock Out and Breakdown organised a diversion at the front of the building. During the fight, Knock Out attacked [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] with his prod, but was flattened by [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] after the Autobot was punched by Breakdown. The two Decepticons sped off into the city after they saw that [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] had captured the Harvester. Knock Out subsequently accompanied Starscream and Breakdown to an [[energon (fuel)|energon]] seam in [[Greece]]. He and Breakdown got the opportunity to fight Bulkhead again, but came off decidedly second-best, and they both fled after the Harvester was destroyed and the other Autobots turned up. {{storylink|Deus ex Machina}}

[[Image:KnockOutvehiclemode.jpg|thumb|]]
Knock Out took to engaging in street racing with the humans. On one occasion, a [[Fast Willy|hapless human]] who scratched his paint job was run off the road by the Decepticon. Despite Starscream's disapproval of his participation in such events, Knock Out continued to cruise around, looking for action, and was eventually drawn to a street race near [[Jasper]]. After the race started, he realized that one of the other cars taking part was [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] and attacked the Autobot. He ended up grabbing what he assumed was Bumblebee's human pal, but was actually an unrelated human named [[Vince]]. Making off, he contacted Breakdown and they attempted to spring an ambush on the three Autobots who came to rescue the boy, but after [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] jumped on him, he decided to withdraw to avoid any more damage to his finish. Unfortunately he was caught by Optimus Prime, who ''ripped his door off'' while rescuing Vince. Faced with four Autobots, Knock Out fled back to the ''Nemesis'' only to face a very angry Starscream, who put a few more scratches in his finish. {{storylink|Speed Metal}}

Starscream offered him a position as second-in-command if he helped convince Soundwave that they needed to humanely terminate Megatron. Knock Out tried his best, pointing out that the brain activity Megatron was displaying just meant their leader was in a dream state from which he might never wake up. Soundwave remained unconvinced, and after an Autobot incursion severed Megatron's life support, Knock Out was forced to reconnect it. The medic later reported to Starscream that, though Megatron's body lived on, his brain activity had ceased. {{storylink|Sick Mind}}

[[Image:OutHead-Knockoutfails.jpg|thumb|250px|left|"But he came aboard the bow my Lord!"]]
He found Starscream in the middle of making a speech to Megatron's body and reminded Starscream of his rank. During the enacting of Starscream's new plan, Knock Out stood atop the ship's back, watching as a Vehicon activated a heat ray to melt a glacier. He ordered Breakdown to take care of Bulkhead and Arcee when the two Autobots turned up, but failed to notice Optimus approaching the ship from behind. The Autobot subsequently caused the heat ray to explode. {{storylink|Out of His Head}}

{{spoiler|Shadowzone (episode)|June 18, 2011}}
With his tenure as second-in-command over, Knock Out went back to his original post as medic. Following Starscream's... "treatment" at the hands of Megatron, Knock Out administered whatever passed for Decepticon medical care. He was surprised to see the patient up and about, thought Starscream claimed to be fine. Some time later, Starscream was back in the infirmary minus an arm, which he claimed had just fallen off. Knock Out tried to interest him in a new, upgraded limb, even going so far as to fetch one from storage, but Starscream announced he was going to get his old one back. He subsequently turned up back at the infirmary with even worse damage, but despite Knock Out's inquiries into what had happened, Starscream refused to talk about it. {{Storylink|Shadowzone (episode)|Shadowzone}}
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==Notes==
*Knock Out's original name was [[Lugnut (disambiguation)|Lugnut]], but was changed as it wasn't "sexy" enough. Just as well; there's already an Aligned [[Lugnut (WFC)|Lugnut]].
*Knock Out's [[license plate]] reads "JOFY 892".
*Some fans have interpreted Starscream's "you're one of ''those"'' line (referring to his car-mode preference), Knock Out's wolf-whistling appraisal of Optimus's truck mode, the vanity about his appearance, and [[Daran Norris]]'s somewhat campy performance to be clues that Knock Out is [[Transformer romance|gay]]. Moreover, the term "knockout" is commonly used to describe an attractive ''woman''. Make of all this what you will, as very little [[Humanization#Sexuality|robotic sexuality]] of any kind has been evident in ''Prime'' so far, outside of a lightly-implied connection between [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]] and Arcee.
**When asked at [[BotCon 2011]], the ''Prime'' writers said that there is no designation for gay (or straight, for that matter) on Cybertron, that Knock Out is a knock out, and that the ''Nemesis'' is a very "don't ask, don't tell" place. And they also "jokingly" deflected the matter by saying there was a "glitch" in the AllSpark that day.
*Knock Out is the first ''Prime'' Decepticon to debut after the pilot miniseries and survive the experience. Breakdown might be considered to share that distinction, but technically he debuted ''before'' the cartoon, as he appeared in the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)|''War for Cybertron'' video games]] and the [[Transformers: Prime (comic)|''Prime'' comic]] first.

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Talk:Knock Out (Prime)

2011-06-13T23:53:33Z

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Jeez, dudes, he makes one comment about Prime's tires, and he's the next Side Burn? [[User:TheMZone|TheMZone]] 00:43, 13 March 2011 (EST)
:I removed it, but apparently someone called Detour took issue with that and reverted me. --[[User:Peter Damian|Peter Damian]] 05:24, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
::Because your words are not law. First of all, the stealth link is there to show precedence, not to say "DUDE HE'S THE EXACT SAME AS SIDEBURN", and second because he does appear to have a serious thing going on for cars... especially Prime. He's gay for Optimus. His comment about Prime was a character-defining moment that really belongs in the intro paragraph. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 05:30, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
:::I think "gay for Optimus" is a little strong. I do think the note should stay, because it is pretty notable that Knock Out shows up next to Optimus complimenting him on his rims and build. We've built up intro paragraphs on less, and schmoozing Optimus's looks isn't really an everyday occurrence in Transformers. That, coupled with Starscream's "Oh, you're one of THOSE." Oh, right, and he compliments Optimus because he reminds him of his [[Breakdown (Prime)|Partner]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:27, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
::::I may be too old to know for sure, but wasn't he just taunting Prime? The way the kids these days talk? I mean, he was setting Prime up to get blasted, which might indicate it wasn't legitimate schmoozing. Just a thought. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:21, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
:::::I don't think Knock Out was legitimately trying to make out with Optimus, no. Try to make him uncomfortable or set him off his game, probably. That doesn't mean his compliments were empty. I think he meant it, but was using it as a disorienting weapon, not as a "I WILL TOTALLY DO YOU LATER" sort of thing. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:26, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
::::::Whenever something like that line turns into a pun, I guess I kind of discount it as character development. But double entendres, I guess. Off to watch the dang episode again. [[User:TheMZone|TheMZone]] 17:49, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
:::::::Actually, it's my opinion that Knock Out was admiring "the awesome truck parked over there," not Optimus. He showed no signs of recognizing Prime as a Transformers until he, um, transformed. Breakdown fired at the building, not at Optimus. But that's just me.
:::::::- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 23:20, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
::::::::Yeah, I never thought Knock Out knew Prime was a robot. He was just a cool looking truck that Knock Out wanted to ...do whatever with. I mean, you're a medic and the leader of your opposing faction is sitting right there, you generally don't go up to him all HEY BIG BOY HOW'S IT HANGIN' (unless you're Comics Ratchet, I mean). [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 07:57, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
:::::::::If he didn't know it was a Transformer, then I'd expect some reaction shot from him when he found out. He's also clearly introducing Optimus to Breakdown, who will shoot him, which otherwise makes no sense. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:16, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
::::::::::Personally I think he was just complimenting Prime's truck mode without knowing it was Optimus. He's in love with himself. Any accusations that he's gay will be the same thing as G1 Tracks.[[User:DinoFreakUSA|DinoFreakUSA]] 14:01, 20 March 2011 (EDT)
::::::::::Also I think we should change things around a bit. I think he only likes cars because he thinks they're cool not because they remind him of Breakdown. Was there an official source that said this?[[User:DinoFreakUSA|DinoFreakUSA]] 00:34, 21 March 2011 (EDT)
:::::::::::"You're reeeeeeaaaaaaaal heavy-duty, just like my friend here." The statement in the article is factual: He likes big trucks, and he thinks they're like Breakdown. Your "because" is something you read into it. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 01:07, 21 March 2011 (EDT)
Starscream's "you're one of ''those''" line is a rhetorical device letting everybody know that the cartoon isn't going to go there. Since he immediately explained that he was taking about car-mode Decepticons. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:02, 25 March 2011 (EDT)

== GAY? ==

That's a little inapropriate for a show that children watch, and I'm sure he just likes cars and commented on Optimus to distract him.--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 13:46, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
:I'd say the brutal death, zombiefication and further brutal manglings of Cliffjumper and the constant brutal eradication of Vehicon troopers are far more inappropriate for a children's show than a bot who likes other dudebots. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:57, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
::If it were humans, yes, but robots, parents probably don't care much.--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 14:23, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
:::Then why do you care? Are you afraid there'll be gay bot marriage or gay bot sex? They don't even have straight bot marriage or straight bot sex. And honestly, leaving homosexuals out of the show could give out a bad message, you know? "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings, except homos, gross!" -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 17:08, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
::::I'm getting Tramp flashbacks from this conversation.--[[User:Spin-Out|Spin-Out]] 18:32, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
:You are inappropriate for children. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 19:33, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
:::::I personally don't care, but parents might overreact and try to sue Hasbro or some shit.--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 16:29, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
::::::Sue them over what, exactly? Take your conspiracy theories to a forum, please. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:35, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
: What a great birthday present, this person. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:05, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
:: All I'm saying they wouldn't suggest him being gay, because of very critical parents who are offended by that. And this is to Spin-Out: Why?--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 15:19, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
::::Sexual innuendo can happen in kids shows, dude. Sexual innuendo's like half of Beast Wars. But I have a feeling that it's not these fictional parents you're invoking who really has the problem here. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:58, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
:::Odd that the parents would have a problem with implications that a character might be gay, but have no problems with death and grisly dismemberment. Not to mention fake profanity. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 17:48, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
::::Which I already pointed out to him at the very beginning of this nonsense. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:51, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
:::::Truth be told, a lot of people have a bigger problem with sex/sexuality than violence (heck, didn't the TF:P crew say they could do violence but not swearing? Not my idea of taboo hierarchy either). Of course, this doesn't change the fact that Primo over here is trying to keep a clean slate by presenting his problem as someone else's problem he's merely trying to raise awareness off. Which I don't get either, because the note states this is how fans interpret it, not that the TF:P crew intended it this way. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 05:39, 9 April 2011 (EDT)
::I don't think it's something worth mentioning in the page (probably 100% coincidence), but his Knock Out voice is exactly the same as his Mercurymon voice from Digimon, which was a character that wore prominent makeup in both its forms. It's pretty clear that Knock Out's at least ''acting'' as if he's homosexual.[[Special:Contributions/98.222.213.161|98.222.213.161]] 16:01, 14 May 2011 (EDT)

== On a COMPLETELY different topic... ==

Anyone object to changing Knock Out's quote to "I'm not just an automobile; I'm an automobile enthusiast"? It's basically just a better phrasing of the current quote, anyway.
<br>- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 2:37 PM, 10 April 2011 A.D.
: I was gonna just go ahead and do that anyway, because I can, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. In other words, go ahead. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:46, 10 April 2011 (EDT)

== EDIT ==
I edited out the part in notes claiming the Botcon comment was "unintentionally insulting" because someone's personal feelings on the matter of a joke does not belong in a wiki, even the TFwiki. Please, do not put in your personal feelings on a subject when this is meant to be objectively informative and not an opinionated exposition. {{person}}

Knock Out (Prime)

2011-06-13T23:51:09Z

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Talk:Knock Out (Prime)

2011-06-13T23:48:37Z

99.89.104.102:

== EDIT ==
I edited out the part in notes claiming the Botcon comment was "unintentionally insulting" because someone's personal feelings on the matter of a joke does not belong in a wiki, even the TFwiki. Please, do not put in your personal feelings on a subject when this is meant to be objectively informative and not an opinionated exposition.
== ==
Jeez, dudes, he makes one comment about Prime's tires, and he's the next Side Burn? [[User:TheMZone|TheMZone]] 00:43, 13 March 2011 (EST)
:I removed it, but apparently someone called Detour took issue with that and reverted me. --[[User:Peter Damian|Peter Damian]] 05:24, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
::Because your words are not law. First of all, the stealth link is there to show precedence, not to say "DUDE HE'S THE EXACT SAME AS SIDEBURN", and second because he does appear to have a serious thing going on for cars... especially Prime. He's gay for Optimus. His comment about Prime was a character-defining moment that really belongs in the intro paragraph. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 05:30, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
:::I think "gay for Optimus" is a little strong. I do think the note should stay, because it is pretty notable that Knock Out shows up next to Optimus complimenting him on his rims and build. We've built up intro paragraphs on less, and schmoozing Optimus's looks isn't really an everyday occurrence in Transformers. That, coupled with Starscream's "Oh, you're one of THOSE." Oh, right, and he compliments Optimus because he reminds him of his [[Breakdown (Prime)|Partner]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:27, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
::::I may be too old to know for sure, but wasn't he just taunting Prime? The way the kids these days talk? I mean, he was setting Prime up to get blasted, which might indicate it wasn't legitimate schmoozing. Just a thought. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:21, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
:::::I don't think Knock Out was legitimately trying to make out with Optimus, no. Try to make him uncomfortable or set him off his game, probably. That doesn't mean his compliments were empty. I think he meant it, but was using it as a disorienting weapon, not as a "I WILL TOTALLY DO YOU LATER" sort of thing. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:26, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
::::::Whenever something like that line turns into a pun, I guess I kind of discount it as character development. But double entendres, I guess. Off to watch the dang episode again. [[User:TheMZone|TheMZone]] 17:49, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
:::::::Actually, it's my opinion that Knock Out was admiring "the awesome truck parked over there," not Optimus. He showed no signs of recognizing Prime as a Transformers until he, um, transformed. Breakdown fired at the building, not at Optimus. But that's just me.
:::::::- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 23:20, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
::::::::Yeah, I never thought Knock Out knew Prime was a robot. He was just a cool looking truck that Knock Out wanted to ...do whatever with. I mean, you're a medic and the leader of your opposing faction is sitting right there, you generally don't go up to him all HEY BIG BOY HOW'S IT HANGIN' (unless you're Comics Ratchet, I mean). [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 07:57, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
:::::::::If he didn't know it was a Transformer, then I'd expect some reaction shot from him when he found out. He's also clearly introducing Optimus to Breakdown, who will shoot him, which otherwise makes no sense. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:16, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
::::::::::Personally I think he was just complimenting Prime's truck mode without knowing it was Optimus. He's in love with himself. Any accusations that he's gay will be the same thing as G1 Tracks.[[User:DinoFreakUSA|DinoFreakUSA]] 14:01, 20 March 2011 (EDT)
::::::::::Also I think we should change things around a bit. I think he only likes cars because he thinks they're cool not because they remind him of Breakdown. Was there an official source that said this?[[User:DinoFreakUSA|DinoFreakUSA]] 00:34, 21 March 2011 (EDT)
:::::::::::"You're reeeeeeaaaaaaaal heavy-duty, just like my friend here." The statement in the article is factual: He likes big trucks, and he thinks they're like Breakdown. Your "because" is something you read into it. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 01:07, 21 March 2011 (EDT)
Starscream's "you're one of ''those''" line is a rhetorical device letting everybody know that the cartoon isn't going to go there. Since he immediately explained that he was taking about car-mode Decepticons. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:02, 25 March 2011 (EDT)

== GAY? ==

That's a little inapropriate for a show that children watch, and I'm sure he just likes cars and commented on Optimus to distract him.--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 13:46, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
:I'd say the brutal death, zombiefication and further brutal manglings of Cliffjumper and the constant brutal eradication of Vehicon troopers are far more inappropriate for a children's show than a bot who likes other dudebots. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:57, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
::If it were humans, yes, but robots, parents probably don't care much.--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 14:23, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
:::Then why do you care? Are you afraid there'll be gay bot marriage or gay bot sex? They don't even have straight bot marriage or straight bot sex. And honestly, leaving homosexuals out of the show could give out a bad message, you know? "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings, except homos, gross!" -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 17:08, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
::::I'm getting Tramp flashbacks from this conversation.--[[User:Spin-Out|Spin-Out]] 18:32, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
:You are inappropriate for children. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 19:33, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
:::::I personally don't care, but parents might overreact and try to sue Hasbro or some shit.--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 16:29, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
::::::Sue them over what, exactly? Take your conspiracy theories to a forum, please. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:35, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
: What a great birthday present, this person. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:05, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
:: All I'm saying they wouldn't suggest him being gay, because of very critical parents who are offended by that. And this is to Spin-Out: Why?--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 15:19, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
::::Sexual innuendo can happen in kids shows, dude. Sexual innuendo's like half of Beast Wars. But I have a feeling that it's not these fictional parents you're invoking who really has the problem here. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:58, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
:::Odd that the parents would have a problem with implications that a character might be gay, but have no problems with death and grisly dismemberment. Not to mention fake profanity. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 17:48, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
::::Which I already pointed out to him at the very beginning of this nonsense. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:51, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
:::::Truth be told, a lot of people have a bigger problem with sex/sexuality than violence (heck, didn't the TF:P crew say they could do violence but not swearing? Not my idea of taboo hierarchy either). Of course, this doesn't change the fact that Primo over here is trying to keep a clean slate by presenting his problem as someone else's problem he's merely trying to raise awareness off. Which I don't get either, because the note states this is how fans interpret it, not that the TF:P crew intended it this way. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 05:39, 9 April 2011 (EDT)
::I don't think it's something worth mentioning in the page (probably 100% coincidence), but his Knock Out voice is exactly the same as his Mercurymon voice from Digimon, which was a character that wore prominent makeup in both its forms. It's pretty clear that Knock Out's at least ''acting'' as if he's homosexual.[[Special:Contributions/98.222.213.161|98.222.213.161]] 16:01, 14 May 2011 (EDT)

== On a COMPLETELY different topic... ==

Anyone object to changing Knock Out's quote to "I'm not just an automobile; I'm an automobile enthusiast"? It's basically just a better phrasing of the current quote, anyway.
<br>- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 2:37 PM, 10 April 2011 A.D.
: I was gonna just go ahead and do that anyway, because I can, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. In other words, go ahead. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:46, 10 April 2011 (EDT)

Talk:Knock Out (Prime)

2011-06-13T23:47:05Z

99.89.104.102:

== EDIT ==
I edited out the part in notes claiming the Botcon comic was "unintentionally insulting" because someone's personal feelings on the matter of a joke does not belong in a wiki, even the TFwiki. Please, do not put in your personal feelings on a subject when this is meant to be objectively informative and not an opinionated exposition.
== ==
Jeez, dudes, he makes one comment about Prime's tires, and he's the next Side Burn? [[User:TheMZone|TheMZone]] 00:43, 13 March 2011 (EST)
:I removed it, but apparently someone called Detour took issue with that and reverted me. --[[User:Peter Damian|Peter Damian]] 05:24, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
::Because your words are not law. First of all, the stealth link is there to show precedence, not to say "DUDE HE'S THE EXACT SAME AS SIDEBURN", and second because he does appear to have a serious thing going on for cars... especially Prime. He's gay for Optimus. His comment about Prime was a character-defining moment that really belongs in the intro paragraph. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 05:30, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
:::I think "gay for Optimus" is a little strong. I do think the note should stay, because it is pretty notable that Knock Out shows up next to Optimus complimenting him on his rims and build. We've built up intro paragraphs on less, and schmoozing Optimus's looks isn't really an everyday occurrence in Transformers. That, coupled with Starscream's "Oh, you're one of THOSE." Oh, right, and he compliments Optimus because he reminds him of his [[Breakdown (Prime)|Partner]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:27, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
::::I may be too old to know for sure, but wasn't he just taunting Prime? The way the kids these days talk? I mean, he was setting Prime up to get blasted, which might indicate it wasn't legitimate schmoozing. Just a thought. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:21, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
:::::I don't think Knock Out was legitimately trying to make out with Optimus, no. Try to make him uncomfortable or set him off his game, probably. That doesn't mean his compliments were empty. I think he meant it, but was using it as a disorienting weapon, not as a "I WILL TOTALLY DO YOU LATER" sort of thing. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:26, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
::::::Whenever something like that line turns into a pun, I guess I kind of discount it as character development. But double entendres, I guess. Off to watch the dang episode again. [[User:TheMZone|TheMZone]] 17:49, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
:::::::Actually, it's my opinion that Knock Out was admiring "the awesome truck parked over there," not Optimus. He showed no signs of recognizing Prime as a Transformers until he, um, transformed. Breakdown fired at the building, not at Optimus. But that's just me.
:::::::- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 23:20, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
::::::::Yeah, I never thought Knock Out knew Prime was a robot. He was just a cool looking truck that Knock Out wanted to ...do whatever with. I mean, you're a medic and the leader of your opposing faction is sitting right there, you generally don't go up to him all HEY BIG BOY HOW'S IT HANGIN' (unless you're Comics Ratchet, I mean). [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 07:57, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
:::::::::If he didn't know it was a Transformer, then I'd expect some reaction shot from him when he found out. He's also clearly introducing Optimus to Breakdown, who will shoot him, which otherwise makes no sense. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:16, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
::::::::::Personally I think he was just complimenting Prime's truck mode without knowing it was Optimus. He's in love with himself. Any accusations that he's gay will be the same thing as G1 Tracks.[[User:DinoFreakUSA|DinoFreakUSA]] 14:01, 20 March 2011 (EDT)
::::::::::Also I think we should change things around a bit. I think he only likes cars because he thinks they're cool not because they remind him of Breakdown. Was there an official source that said this?[[User:DinoFreakUSA|DinoFreakUSA]] 00:34, 21 March 2011 (EDT)
:::::::::::"You're reeeeeeaaaaaaaal heavy-duty, just like my friend here." The statement in the article is factual: He likes big trucks, and he thinks they're like Breakdown. Your "because" is something you read into it. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 01:07, 21 March 2011 (EDT)
Starscream's "you're one of ''those''" line is a rhetorical device letting everybody know that the cartoon isn't going to go there. Since he immediately explained that he was taking about car-mode Decepticons. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:02, 25 March 2011 (EDT)

== GAY? ==

That's a little inapropriate for a show that children watch, and I'm sure he just likes cars and commented on Optimus to distract him.--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 13:46, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
:I'd say the brutal death, zombiefication and further brutal manglings of Cliffjumper and the constant brutal eradication of Vehicon troopers are far more inappropriate for a children's show than a bot who likes other dudebots. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:57, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
::If it were humans, yes, but robots, parents probably don't care much.--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 14:23, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
:::Then why do you care? Are you afraid there'll be gay bot marriage or gay bot sex? They don't even have straight bot marriage or straight bot sex. And honestly, leaving homosexuals out of the show could give out a bad message, you know? "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings, except homos, gross!" -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 17:08, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
::::I'm getting Tramp flashbacks from this conversation.--[[User:Spin-Out|Spin-Out]] 18:32, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
:You are inappropriate for children. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 19:33, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
:::::I personally don't care, but parents might overreact and try to sue Hasbro or some shit.--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 16:29, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
::::::Sue them over what, exactly? Take your conspiracy theories to a forum, please. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:35, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
: What a great birthday present, this person. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:05, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
:: All I'm saying they wouldn't suggest him being gay, because of very critical parents who are offended by that. And this is to Spin-Out: Why?--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 15:19, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
::::Sexual innuendo can happen in kids shows, dude. Sexual innuendo's like half of Beast Wars. But I have a feeling that it's not these fictional parents you're invoking who really has the problem here. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:58, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
:::Odd that the parents would have a problem with implications that a character might be gay, but have no problems with death and grisly dismemberment. Not to mention fake profanity. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 17:48, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
::::Which I already pointed out to him at the very beginning of this nonsense. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:51, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
:::::Truth be told, a lot of people have a bigger problem with sex/sexuality than violence (heck, didn't the TF:P crew say they could do violence but not swearing? Not my idea of taboo hierarchy either). Of course, this doesn't change the fact that Primo over here is trying to keep a clean slate by presenting his problem as someone else's problem he's merely trying to raise awareness off. Which I don't get either, because the note states this is how fans interpret it, not that the TF:P crew intended it this way. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 05:39, 9 April 2011 (EDT)
::I don't think it's something worth mentioning in the page (probably 100% coincidence), but his Knock Out voice is exactly the same as his Mercurymon voice from Digimon, which was a character that wore prominent makeup in both its forms. It's pretty clear that Knock Out's at least ''acting'' as if he's homosexual.[[Special:Contributions/98.222.213.161|98.222.213.161]] 16:01, 14 May 2011 (EDT)

== On a COMPLETELY different topic... ==

Anyone object to changing Knock Out's quote to "I'm not just an automobile; I'm an automobile enthusiast"? It's basically just a better phrasing of the current quote, anyway.
<br>- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 2:37 PM, 10 April 2011 A.D.
: I was gonna just go ahead and do that anyway, because I can, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. In other words, go ahead. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:46, 10 April 2011 (EDT)

Knock Out (Prime)

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