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Tom Vogt

2026-03-31T09:32:13Z

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'''Tom Vogt''', (b. [[March 31]], [[1957]]) AKA Thomas Vogt, is a German voice actor who voiced Bail Organa in the ''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]'' franchise (except the ''[[LEGO]] Star Wars'' animated films and series), voiced Morpheus in the ''Matrix'' franchise and voiced William T. Riker in the ''[[Star Trek]]'' franchise (with fellow German ''Transformers'' voice actor colleague [[Detlef Bierstedt]]).

== Voice roles ==
===''[[Transformers One (film)|Transformers One]]''===
* [[Alpha Trion]]

==External links==
*[https://www.synchronkartei.de/person/SSEQyNuBZ/sprecher Synchronkartei entry]

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2026-03-17T00:49:36Z

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Shanghai Public Security Bureau

2026-03-05T19:10:53Z

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The Shanghai Public Security Bureau (上海市公安局,Shàng hǎi shì gōng ān jú) is a [[human]] organization under the jurisdiction of the Chinese police department of the Shanghai government. In addition to maintaining the laws and public safety of Shanghai, they also need to assist Autobots and NEST in resisting the invasion of the Decepticons.

==Fiction==
===''Revenge of the Fallen'' film===
[[File:Revenge of the Fallen Human police.jpg|right|thumb]]
In 2009, in order to help Autobots and NEST eliminate the Demolishor and Sideways hiding in Shanghai, the Shanghai Public Security Bureau dispatched multiple police officers and SWAT to evacuate residents near the chemical plant on the grounds of harmful gas leakage, ensuring that Autobots and NEST did not act secretly under the attention of the media and civilians.

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After nightfall, a Z-11 police helicopter guided NEST's convoy and Black Hawk helicopter into the battlefield.Some police cars were destroyed when the Demolishor broke out of the NEST's encirclement and wreaked havoc on the city's elevated highway.{{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

===Revenge of the Fallen - The Game===
[[File:Revenge of the Fallen police car.jpg|right|thumb|As a "Barricade" blocking roads, he is very competent]]
In order to prevent the Decepticons from escaping, the Shanghai Public Security Bureau dispatched police cars to block all entrances and exits of the city.

A patrol police car was attacked by Demolishor while patrolling a dock in Shanghai, but luckily it and its driver survived.{{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)}}

==External links==
*[https://gaj.sh.gov.cn/shga/index.html The Shanghai Police Department's official site].

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'80s-ization beam

2026-02-18T21:52:01Z

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[[File:LG05 Whirl 80s beam.jpg|thumb|upright=2|It's the '80s! Do a lot of coke and vote for [[Ronald Reagan]]!]]

The '''{{'}}80s-ization beam''' (80年代化ビーム ''wachijū-nendai-ka beam'') transforms all things you love to stuff from the 1980s, in a fit of somebody's obsessive nostalgia.

==Fiction==
===Legends World===
Thanks to the power of the [[Legends World]]'s [[spirit energy]], the [[Rhinox (BW)#Legends World|Rhinox]] of that world became [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]] in accordance to his wishes to become a cool robot. With this transformation came a facsimile of the [[Key to Vector Sigma]] that allowed Tankor to fire a beam that transformed things to anachronisms from the '80s, thanks to Rhinox's excessive nostalgia for the period. He went on a rampage with this "'80s-ization beam", changing his coworkers' technology to their more limited '80s versions, which displeased them (mostly). [[Rattrap (BW)#Legends World|Rattrap]] became a [[Transformer]] again and defeated Tankor in an explosion that he enjoyed being '80s-esque. {{storylink|LG03 Tankor}}

Soon after building [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] and [[Roadbuster (G1)|Roadbuster]] based on [[Special Armored Battalion Dorvack|an obscure '80s anime]], Tankor decided on the '''Total Humanity '80s-ization Plan''' (人類総80年代化計画 ''Jinrui-sō Wachijū-nendai-ka Keikaku''), giving Roadbuster the '80s-ization beam to use on the denizens of [[Tokyo]]. Roadbuster managed to convert some citizens into '80s-inspired forms of themselves before Rattrap again rebuked Tankor for his obsessive nostalgia and not realizing that the present was built on the past. Tankor almost conceded to Rattrap's point, but refused to let go of yearning for earlier times, so [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]], having already turned on his creator, joined Rattrap in defeating Tankor. {{Storylink|LG05 Roadbuster}}

Much later, when Rattrap attempted to change his coworkers to [[Transmetal|Metals]]-inspired forms to instigate interest in ''[[Transformers New Legends|New Legends]]'', [[Cheetor (BW)#Legends World|Cheetor]] compared this nostalgia to the '80s-ization beam, which Rhinox profusely apologized for. {{Storylink|We're Back!}}

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Category:Legends franchise

2026-02-16T19:10:42Z

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Pages relating to the Japanese ''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' franchise.

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Transformers Overgear

2026-02-08T22:55:03Z

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'''Transformers Overgear''' (トランスフォーマー {{ruby|OVERGEAR|オーバーギア}} ''Toransufōmā Ōbāgia'') is a toyline from [[TakaraTomy]]; intended as a spiritual successor to ''[[Binaltech]]'', it features toys designed around a more complex and industrial "{{w|Real robot|real mecha}} design" compared to most previous ''Transformers'' toylines.

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==External Links==
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gts_XYqJAvg Official TakaraTomy trailer.]

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2026-01-17T10:02:10Z

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''[[Transformers: Earth Wars]]'' "[[On the Brink]]" header from the associated newsletter.

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Trailbreaker (G1)

2026-01-15T08:44:33Z

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:''Trailbreaker is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
[[File:Trailbreakerg1.jpg|upright=1.34|thumb|I may not be fast... but I'm effective and provide soothing relief.]]
It's hard not to like '''Trailbreaker''' (aka '''Trailcutter'''<ref name="cutter">From 2011 onwards, "Trailcutter" was Hasbro's substitute name for toys of the Trailbreaker character when that name was not available to them as a [[trademark]], including a toy of the [[Trailbreaker (Prime)|''Transformers: Prime'' version of the character]]. Hasbro finally got the name "Trailbreaker" back for the 2016 ''[[Combiner Wars (toyline)|Combiner Wars]]'' toy. In the meantime, the name "Trailcutter" was also used in the [[2005 IDW continuity]] to reflect the [[Thrilling 30]] toy's name, as well as in the [[Transformers Legends (mobile game)|''Transformers Legends'' mobile game]].</ref> and '''Trailblazer'''<ref name="blazer">The name "Trailblazer" was used three times: Once as a one-off error in a line of dialogue in the 1985 [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1]] cartoon episode "[[A Prime Problem]]", spoken by Optimus Prime (the ''real'' one, no less); the ''Transformers'' portion of IDW's 2012 ''[[Infestation 2]]'' crossover established the ''[[Hearts of Steel]]'' version of the character as going by the name "Trailblazer"; and the character's card for the 2014 [[Rushdown Road]] event from the [[Transformers Legends (mobile game)|''Transformers Legends'' mobile game]] also used that name despite all other cards from the game using the name "Trailcutter".</ref>). He's a good-humored cheerleader, always ready with a joke or comment to lighten the mood when things get dark. Sadly, Trailbreaker's joking is often a cover for his low self-esteem. His form is the most fuel-consumptive of the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] crew, and his vehicle mode is very slow. As such, he feels like a useless drain on their limited resources. Other days, he feels like a one-trick-pony whose talents are taken for granted. It's not uncommon to see him burying his woes in a tall glass of liquor that can [[Nightmare Fuel|push a Warworld into hyperspace]].

The Autobots know better, of course. Trailbreaker's good humor, bravery, and impenetrable [[force field]] and [[magnawheels]] are all of great use, and he knows how to make the most out of both his abilities. But convincing him of that is hard. Once he starts moping about his handicaps, nothing short of a strong push in the right direction will get him in gear.

{{bigquote|An Autobot's as good as the fuel in his tank.|Trailbreaker's Generation 1 bio quote}}

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics====
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Trailbreaker was part of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]]'s original crew, crashing to Earth four million years ago aboard the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]]. {{storylink|The Transformers (issue)|The Transformers}}

[[File:Trailbreaker man of iron.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.66|Above: Trailbreaker's force field in actio—What? Sorry, false alarm.]]
Trailbreaker was one of the Autobots who participated in the battle outside of [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparkplug's]] garage when the Decepticon came about to abduct the mechanic. The Autobots failed in preventing Sparkplug from becoming the Decepticons' prisoner, and Trailbreaker returned to the Ark afterwards, too low on fuel to participate in the subsequent rescue effort. {{storylink|Prisoner of War!}} Trailbreaker joined a detachment of Autobots investigating robot sightings in [[United Kingdom|Merry Ol' England]]. After making contact with a young boy named [[Sammy Harker|Sammy]], the Autobots were caught by surprise when the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]] fire-bombed them from the sky. Trailbreaker was blasted before he could activate his force field. Like a freakin' drama queen, he went offline whimpering, "It's no good. Everything's gone... just plain ruined..." {{storylink|Man of Iron (issue)|Man of Iron}} ''When the Decepticons attacked the Ark and Optimus Prime was forced to reactivate [[Aunty|Auntie]], Trailbreaker was pinned to the ship's wall by her magnetic fields.'' {{storylink|Raiders of the Last Ark}}

[[File:Swoop trailbreaker icarus theory.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Above: Trailbreaker's force field in—Geez, again? Okay, never mind.]]
Like many Autobots, Trailbreaker was too low on fuel to join Optimus and the others in what would've been their climactic battle with [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]]'s forces, and was taken prisoner without a fight when [[Shockwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Shockwave]] assumed command of the Decepticons and the Ark. {{storylink|The Last Stand}} His body was strung up from the Ark's ceiling alongside the other Autobots. {{storylink|The New Order}} He was revived after [[Ratchet (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Ratchet]] and the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] reclaimed the Ark, however. When the Autobots went to recover Optimus Prime's head and restore their leader to functionality, Trailbreaker was one of many Autobots caught off-guard by the false Prime created by Shockwave and was shot down before he could raise his force field. {{storylink|Prime Time!}}

''On another occasion, the Dinobot [[Swoop (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Swoop]] was under the control of a human scientist and attacking the Autobots. Trailbreaker jumped in his path and tried to wrestle the pteranodon to the ground. Instead, he was lifted up and slammed into the cliffside...'cause he never turned on that force field.'' {{storylink|The Icarus Theory}} ''During the Dinobot Hunt, Trailbreaker joined [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] and [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] in hunting [[Snarl (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Snarl]] among the sands of the [[Black Rock Desert]]. They managed to collect him virtually without a fight once Snarl wandered into a secret military base and unleashed a molecular disintegrator bomb that ended his rampage.'' {{storylink|Dinobot Hunt!}}

''Upon discovering that the human [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]] had gone to take on the Decepticons alone in his [[battlesuit]], Optimus Prime assembled a team of Autobots including Trailbreaker, Ratchet, [[Bumblebee (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Bumblebee]], [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] to rescue him.'' {{storylink|Robot Buster!}}

[[File:Brawn trailbreaker tracks target 2006.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|Above: Trailbreaker's forc—DAMMIT TRAILBREAKER!]]
''When [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] and his future Decepticons arrived in the present, the Autobot chain of command was crippled as Optimus Prime, Prowl, and Ratchet vanished and [[Jazz (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Jazz]] was taken prisoner. [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] attempted to rise to command, accepting support from [[Ironhide (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Ironhide]] and [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]], but the Autobots were simply outclassed. Trailbreaker was part of a group of more than a half-dozen Autobots who collectively failed to bring down even one of Galvatron's lieutenants. In desperation, the Autobots turned to Megatron himself (who had quickly been disposed of by Galvatron when he first arrived) as a temporary ally and battlefield advisor.''

[[File:Dirge trailbreaker the gift.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|That's it, I'm outta here.]]
''Under the Decepticon's direction, the Autobots staged a trap for the lone future Decepticon [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] in order to weaken Galvatron's power base. Unfortunately, Scourge's enhanced sensors detected the trap almost immediately, and his [[acid ray]] nailed Trailbreaker THROUGH a wall before the battle even began. (Too early to have activated that force field, huh?) Scourge was ultimately brought down, but Trailbreaker was left inactive for days until Ratchet was restored to the present and able to repair him.'' {{storylink|Target: 2006}}

''Well, he was up and about soon enough, and after Optimus tasked [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] to lead the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] in a mission to test their psychological mettle, Trailbreaker gave the group the exact coordinates where the Decepticons had last been spotted.'' {{storylink|The Return of the Transformers}}

''Trailbreaker later accompanied Prowl and Jetfire on a mission to stop the Decepticons from accessing a [[NASA]] space transmission facility, only to get knocked around helplessly by [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], and beaten to the ground long enough for the Decepticons to escape... all because he didn't turn on that slaggin' force field to protect himself.'' {{storylink|The Gift}}

Trailbreaker was present to watch [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] and [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] duke it out on the [[Moon (moon)|Moon]] for Autobot leadership. {{storylink|Totaled!}}

=====Marvel UK future timelines=====
In [[2008]], Trailbreaker was one of the Autobots taken down and strung up by the [[Quintesson]]s when they invaded [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]]. {{storylink|Space Pirates!}}
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====''Regeneration One''====
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In [[2012]] Trailbreaker worked under [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Ultra Magnus]] in the [[Cybertronian Civil Defense]]. When [[Kup (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Kup]] and the [[Wreckers]] went rogue it fell to Trailbreaker to deliver the bad news to Magnus, who ordered him to investigate further. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 2}} In a report to Optimus Prime he revealed his investigations had led him to uncover Kup's journey to Earth aboard the [[Cosmic Carnival]], that the Wreckers were in trouble and Megatron was back, prompting the Autobot leader to leave Cybertron to confront him. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 3}}

After [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]'s [[Gene Key]]-fuelled reign of terror on Cybertron, more than ninety percent of the Civil Defence Force had been wiped out. Trailbreaker listened as Magnus gave a speech to rally the survivors, then informed him that Optimus Prime wanted to speak to him from Earth. {{storylink|Destiny, Part One}} Later, he helped [[Prowl (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Prowl]] rehabilitate the [[Nucleon (substance)|nucleon]]-affected [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]], [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]], [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]], and [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]]. {{storylink|Destiny, Part Two}}
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===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
{{voiceactor|[[Frank Welker]] (English), [[Ken Shiroyama]] (Japanese), [[Takurō Kitagawa]] (Japanese, "A Plague of Insecticons", "The Ultimate Doom, Part 3")|[[Liu Qin]] (Chinese), [[Roberto Alexander]] (Latin American), [[Toni Orlandi]] (Italian, second dub), [[Raffaele Palmieri]] (Italian, ''40th Anniversary Event'' dub), [[Albert Augier]] (European French), [[Jean Roche]] (European French, "More than Meets the Eye, Part 2"), [[Michel Bedetti]] (European French, "Divide and Conquer" and "The Ultimate Doom" episodes), [[Gérard Hernandez]] (European French, "Changing Gears"), [[Francis Lax]] (European French, "The Immobilizer"), [[Serge Bourrier]] (European French, "The Autobot Run"), [[Jacques Ferrière]] (European French, "A Prime Problem"), [[François Leccia]] (European French, "Blaster Blues"), [[Sílvio Navas]] (Portuguese, "Transport to Oblivion" to "Divide and Conquer"), [[Orlando Drummond]] (Portuguese, "S.O.S. Dinobots" onwards), [[Mário Monjardim]] (Portuguese, "Changing Gears"), [[Júlio Chaves]] (Portuguese, "Triple Takeover"), [[Celso Alves]] (Portuguese, DVD dub)}}

[[File:Mtmte2 witwickys and trailbreaker.jpg|left|thumb|"Tea Party Radar" was one of his more seldom-used powers.]]
Trailbreaker was part of the bridge crew of the Ark spaceship when it blasted off from Cybertron to search for new sources of energy four million years in the past. When he was awakened in 1984, [[Teletraan I]] reformatted him so that his alt mode was a terrestrial Toyota 4WD camper truck. Trailbreaker accompanied his fellow Autobots on their first mission to stop the Decepticons on Earth, a mission that took him to an off-shore oil rig. The Decepticons plundered the rig for energon and destroyed it, leaving it a flaming wreck that endangered its human crew. Trailbreaker used his force field to contain the fire, while [[Wheeljack (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Wheeljack]] used his built-in fire-suppression systems to douse the flames. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 1}}

Later, Trailbreaker served as a spy despite his stated function as defensive strategist. ([[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] was apparently busy that day.) He, along with the humans [[Sparkplug Witwicky]] and [[Spike Witwicky (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Spike]], camped out near the Decepticons' headquarters and eavesdropped on their plans to raid the ruby mines of Burma. Their surveillance did not go totally unnoticed, however, as a set of [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]] spotted the Autobot making his getaway. Trailbreaker summoned the brothers [[Sunstreaker (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Sunstreaker]] and [[Sideswipe (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Sideswipe]] to fend off his pursuer and got the information safely back to [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Prime]]. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 2}}

[[File:MTMTE3 Trailbreaker jogging.jpg|thumb|Trailbreaker took up jogging after Sunstreaker made a crack about his weight.]]
Trailbreaker watched [[Jazz (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Jazz]] fish [[Ironhide (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ironhide]] and [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] out of a lake during the mission in [[Burma]]. He volunteered along with all of the rest of the Autobots to attempt to prevent the Decepticons from leaving Earth with the Energon they'd gathered. He fired on the Decepticons as they boarded the [[Victory (G1)|space cruiser]] they'd built. Though the ship still launched despite their efforts, Mirage brought it crashing back to Earth. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 3}} Trailbreaker was part of a group of Autobots who were lured into a cave by a reprogrammed [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] and ambushed by the Decepticons. {{storylink|Transport to Oblivion (episode)|Transport to Oblivion}} He also took part in the assault on an antimatter laboratory when the Decepticons got their hands on an antimatter formula, and was damaged when the lab exploded during the Decepticon withdrawal. {{storylink|Roll for It}}

[[File:SOSDinobots Trailbreaker in force field.jpg|thumb|left|"I'm trapped in a Fabergé egg! Help!"]]
A team of Autobots, including Trailbreaker, rolled out to give Optimus backup at an ammunition plant, but arrived too late, and found Prime badly damaged. When Prime needed a new [[Cosmitron]], Trailbreaker volunteered for a mission to Cybertron to retrieve a replacement from [[Wheeljack's workshop]]. [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] had his forces on that planet use [[acid rain]] on the group, but after a pep talk from [[Chip Chase]], Trailbreaker remembered he could use his force fields to protect them. They subsequently returned to Earth and, while the replacement Cosmitron was being installed, helped defend Headquarters against a Decepticon attack. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer}} When the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]]s ran amok during their unveiling, Trailbreaker protected himself from [[Slag (G1)|Slag]]'s [[fire-breath]] with a force field. Of course, this merely deflected the fire onto Sunstreaker. Some time later, Trailbreaker and most of the rest of the Autobots went to the [[Great Falls]] to try and stop the Decepticons from raiding it, and were all captured. They would have been terminated, had Wheeljack not come to the rescue with the upgraded Dinobots. {{storylink|S.O.S. Dinobots}}

Trailbreaker and [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] were going for a drive one day, only to find two [[Thundercracker (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|suspicious-looking]] [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|jets]]. The jets revealed themselves as Decepticons who had come to a nearby refinery to make off with its steel to build a weapon. Brawn and Trailbreaker interrupted them, but Starscream blasted missiles at them, destroying the refinery, and made his getaway. The Autobots reported the incident back to Optimus Prime. Toward the end of the ensuing battle in [[Peru]], Trailbreaker pitched in to fire at the new weapon. {{storylink|Fire on the Mountain (episode)|Fire on the Mountain}}

[[File:UltimateDoom3 Trailbreaker firing.jpg|thumb|Who needs a forcefield when you're covered in guns.]]
When the Autobots began studying a meteorite that had fallen to Earth, Wheeljack discovered the sample fragment was highly unstable and summoned Optimus and Trailbreaker to his laboratory. On command, Trailbreaker unleashed his force field around the meteorite to contain the explosive blast. {{storylink|War of the Dinobots}} In the aftermath of a Decepticon attack on Headquarters, Trailbreaker took part in cleanup efforts. {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 1}} Following Cybertron's arrival in Earth orbit, he and Jazz mocked Thundercracker when the Seeker was blasted by his own fire, whipped back by the strong winds. Trailbreaker volunteered for a mission to Cybertron to rescue Sparkplug, intending to use his jammer beam to mask their approach. Unfortunately he left it too late, but [[Jetfire (G1)|Skyfire]] was able to dodge the incoming missiles. The team arrived on Cybertron, but became separated, with Skyfire, Trailbreaker and Wheeljack left on the surface. {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 2}}

The trio made their way down and arrived in time to rescue Spike and the smaller 'bots from the Decepticons. After a swift retreat, they reached the relative safety of Wheeljack's workshop, where the scientist worked to construct a counter for the Decepticon [[hypno-chip]]s. That done, they rescued Sparkplug, and headed back to Earth in time to liberate the enslaved humans and prevent Megatron from getting away with a shuttle full of Energon. {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 3}} Trailbreaker was at headquarters when they discovered that Megatron was still operational and leading the Decepticons. {{storylink|Countdown to Extinction (episode)|Countdown to Extinction}}

[[File:PlagueOfInsecticons Trailbreaker projecting forcefield.jpg|thumb|left]]
With the emergence of the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] in [[Bali]], Trailbreaker was among the Autobots who went to investigate. They arrived in time to reinforced the smaller team who'd already found the Insecticons, and the foe, now teamed up with the Decepticons, took off. During the pursuit, [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] used his control beam on Sunstreaker and Sideswipe, compelling the pair to try and ram their fellows, but Trailbreaker used a force field to sever the beam. They eventually reached an oil refinery, but during the battle, Shrapnel harnessed lightning from a storm that had moved in, and zapped Trailbreaker and Wheeljack. Both survived, and Trailbreaker was later able to use his force field to disable the Insecticon clones, rescuing Bumblebee and Spike. {{storylink|A Plague of Insecticons}} After Megatron challenged Optimus to a one-on-one duel, Trailbreaker and the rest of the Autobots turned out to cheer their leader on. To their horror, Optimus lost, meaning they'd have to leave Earth forever, but once they returned to headquarters, they used Teletraan I to establish that Megatron had cheated, rendering the result void. {{storylink|Heavy Metal War}}

During Sparkplug's demonstration of his latest invention, [[Autobot X (G1)|Autobot X]], the creation went wild. Trailbreaker, Ironhide and [[Prowl (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Prowl]] tried to charge it, only to be blasted on their cans. Trailbreaker's force field provided his companions with cover so they could take down the beast. {{storylink|Autobot Spike}} He was on the ill-fated mission to come to the aid of some gold miners, during which [[Gears (G1)|Gears]] was captured by the Decepticons. He subsequently joined the effort to rescue Gears and disable Megatron's [[Solar Needle]]. When they found that Megatron had temporarily reprogrammed Gears to be a happy-go-lucky kind of Autobot, Trailbreaker was the one who voiced what everyone was thinking and said maybe they should just leave him that way. {{storylink|Changing Gears}} He was also on the mission to [[New York City]] when the Decepticons started replacing buildings in an attempt to create a new Cybertron, {{storylink|City of Steel (episode)|City of Steel}} and was turned evil by Megatron's [[personality destabilizer device]]. {{storylink|Attack of the Autobots (episode)|Attack of the Autobots}}

[[File:TheImmobilizer Trailbreaker force field.jpg|thumb|"And the only side effect is Ratchet's mouth disappears!"]]
Trailbreaker witnessed the demonstration of the [[Wheeljack Instant Immobilizer]], and protected his comrades with a force field when the Decepticons attacked. Though they managed to steal the Immobilizer, the Decepticons fell into a river and Trailbreaker lightened the situation with a healthy joke. {{storylink|The Immobilizer}} He took part in a charity race, though he wasn't the fastest of Autobots, and still managed to outrun Ironhide. When the old timer complained about a weird jolt in his circuitry, Trailbreaker suggested he was making an excuse, but it was actually the effects of Megatron's [[Transfixatron]]. Locked in their vehicle modes, the Autobots were taken to an old ghost town, and it looked like they were going to be destroyed, until the Autobots who'd remained at base turned up to rescue them. Ironhide and Trailbreaker took great delight in smashing the Transfixatron to bits. {{storylink|The Autobot Run}} Trailbreaker took part in the defense of [[Washington, D.C.]] when the Decepticons teamed up with the residents of [[Sub-Atlantica]]. {{storylink|Atlantis, Arise!}}

[[File:EnterNightbird flying Trailbreaker.jpg|thumb|left|In an early example of [[Slogism]], here's Trailbreaker stuck to the roof of a building with a wad of cotton candy.]]
Trailbreaker was also a guard when [[Doctor Fujiyama the Famous Scientist]] revealed his [[Nightbird (G1)|Nightbird]], though when Decepticons inevitably attacked, they blasted through the door Trailbreaker was standing in front of, sending him across the room. {{storylink|Enter the Nightbird}} After an apparently successful attack on the Decepticons at a crevasse, the Autobots found that they somehow had two Optimus Primes—the real one referring to Trailbreaker as "'''Trailblazer'''". Trailbreaker was one of the proponents of using a series of trials to work out which was the real thing. When that was unsuccessful, the Autobots ended up going on another mission to the crevasse to investigate strange readings, and once again encountered the Decepticons. After [[Optimus Prime clone|one of the Primes]] apparently destroyed [[Starscream clone (G1)|Starscream]], Trailbreaker announced that he must be the real thing, because he offed the Decepticons' "number two varmint". As it turned out, that Prime was a phony, trying to lure them into a ravine filled with dangerous [[korlonium crystal]]s, as they discovered moments later when he disregarded a threat to Spike's life. {{storylink|A Prime Problem}}

[[File:DinobotIsland1 Trailbreaker projects force field.jpg|thumb|Trailbreaker's bakery went under because he had difficulty using pastry bags.]]
When the Dinobots attempted to demonstrate their newfound "finesse" to the other Autobots, [[Slag (G1)|Slag]] accidentally set fire to the Ark, threatening Teletraan I. Thinking quickly, Trailbreaker projected his force field over the Autobot supercomputer, allowing [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] time to extinguish the blaze. {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 1}} The Decepticon's pillaging of [[Dinobot Island (G1)|Dinobot Island]] began causing time warps to appear across the world, and Trailbreaker flew to the island by [[jet pack]] to investigate with the rest of the Autobots. After a prolonged battle, the Autobots and Dinobots succeeded in chasing the Decepticons from the island. {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 2}}

On another occasion, the Autobots were forced to abandon Earth by Megatron aboard a spacecraft set on a course into the sun. After the Autobots discovered they couldn't alter their course, their ship exploded. Trailbreaker cast a massive force field large enough to contain the entire Autobot force safely; from within the field, [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] towed the group back to Earth. {{storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 2}} Trailbreaker was incapacitated by [[Cybertonium]] depletion, as were the rest of the Autobots. They were only saved when Spike, [[Carly (G1)|Carly]], and the Dinobots brought more back from Cybertron. {{storylink|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 2}}

[[File:Trailbreakerdance.jpg|left|thumb|Do a little dance...make a little love... get down tonight... I said get down tonight!]]
Trailbreaker was among the Autobots who arrived too late to prevent the theft of the [[Voltronic Galaxer]]. When Megatron used the device to knock out radio transmissions during a blizzard, Trailbreaker's force fields proved to be a valuable asset, protecting humans and Autobots alike from snowfall. {{storylink|Blaster Blues}} He took part in an attempt to defend an [[Electrum]] pool from the Decepticons, {{storylink|The Golden Lagoon (episode)|The Golden Lagoon}} and a baseball stadium incident during which Optimus and a number of other Autobots were lost through the Decepticon [[space bridge]]. {{storylink|Child's Play (episode)|Child's Play}}

After that, a Decepticon coup by [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]], [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], and [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] resulted in a city being flooded. Trailbreaker used his force field to protect himself and a small group of Autobots from a large tidal wave. {{storylink|Triple Takeover}} He rolled out with the majority of the Autobot forces to rescue [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] from the Decepticons, though it resulted in them all being infected with [[Cosmic Rust (disease)|Cosmic Rust]]. {{storylink|Cosmic Rust (episode)|Cosmic Rust}} He was also hanging around Headquarters when the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]] were captured, and a group of Autobots disguised as them in an attempt to find out what Megatron was up to. {{storylink|Masquerade}}

====Japanese cartoon continuity====
=====''Generations Selects Special Comic'' (1)=====
Four million years ago, Trailbreaker was one of the Autobots on the bridge of the ''Ark'' before it was attacked by the ''[[Nemesis (G1)|Nemesis]]''. {{storylink|Super Megatron comic 2}}

=====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' story pages=====
Trailbreaker was a participant in a battle in New York City, early in the Autobot/Decepticon war taking place on Earth. The Autobots were victorious that day. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (story page)|Broadcasting on TV! Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers}}

Later, Trailbreaker battled Devastator alongside Optimus, Wheeljack and Ironhide in Cybertron orbit. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (story page)#Part 6|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers Part 6}}

=====''The Battle of the Star Gate''=====
Trailbreaker was amongst the Autobots who once more confronted Megatron and his Decepticons at the ''[[Trigger]]'' in Earth orbit. When Starscream combined himself with the ''Trigger'' to create a powerful new body for himself, Trailbreaker had to contend with the volley of asteroids thrown towards both Autobots and Decepticons from Starscream's star gate. He was then almost sucked into a portal to a black hole when Starscream neared defeat, but was instead sent plummeting down to Earth when Optimus and Megatron worked together to defeat Starscream. {{storylink|The Battle of the Star Gate}}

=====''Story of Binaltech''=====
Trailbreaker was one of many Autobots who suffered from an outbreak of the [[Cosmic Rust (disease)|Cosmic Rust]] virus after the Decepticons unleashed it on Earth. He was supposed to receive a new body thanks to the [[Central City (Earth)|Central City]] Institute of Technology, but the Decepticons managed to infiltrate the Binaltech Project. Through the use of [[hypno-chip]]-controlled spies and pawns, Trailbreaker's new body was hijacked and used to upgrade the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticon]] known as [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] instead. {{storylink|Expose All of Evil's Designs!}}

=====''Unite Warriors''/''Legends''=====
[[File:SkyReignChapter TrailbreakerForceField.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.0|Now with Kung-Fu Grip!]]
In 2011, Trailbreaker was part of the [[Disaster Relief Team]] sent to the ruins of the recently destroyed Cybertron in search of survivors. They located [[Vector Sigma]], which reformatted the team into new, stronger bodies that allowed them to combine into [[Sky Reign]] and also to restore Cybertron to a habitable state. When [[Grand Galvatron]] attacked the planet in 2021, Trailbreaker used his "ultra force barrier" to knock the enemy combiner's limbs before forming Sky Reign, who could wield his force fields as well. {{storylink|Sky Reign Chapter}} Sky Reign was then broken apart by [[Megaempress]], and Trailbreaker and the others were subdued by [[Moonheart]] who cut their combiner joints off. {{storylink|Megatronia Chapter}} Things escalated when Unicron attacked Cybertron with the [[Commando (RID)|Combatrons]], and Trailbreaker raced into battle with the other Autobots only to be held at bay by [[Movor|Shuttler]]'s blasts. {{storylink|Ruination Chapter, Part One}} Once the battle reached Unicron himself, Vector Sigma restored the team's combiner joints so they could participate in the battle as Sky Reign. {{storylink|Ruination Chapter, Part Two}}

Trailbreaker was the main character in a musical produced by Disaster Relief Team, playing a knight who saved princess [[Ratchet (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ratchet]] from the evil dragon, [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]]. {{storylink|Invitation to the Dress Rehearsal!}} The team was later summoned to the [[Legends World]] by [[Alpha Trion]] to help rebuild [[Akihabara]]. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 43|Bonus Edition Vol. 43}} When the city was attacked by three out-of-control mutant [[Targetmaster (technology)|Targetmasters]], Trailbreaker shielded a group of citizens with his force field. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 62|Bonus Edition Vol. 62}}

=====''Generations Selects Special Comic'' (2)=====
[[File:VolcanicusComic2 TrailbreakerVSludge.jpg|thumb|upright=1.0|left|Outwitted by Sludge...c'mon man.]]
In [[2050]], Trailbreaker and the Autobots supported the [[Selector]]s' revolution from the humans. The [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]]s remained loyal to their friend Carly and the Witwickys, and so Trailbreaker was forced to fight them. He tried to defend against [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]]'s charge using his force field, only for the Dinobot to open up a trench under his feet. When the [[Terrorcon (G1)|Terrorcon]]s took to the field with metal-eating gas, Trailbreaker's force field served him better the second time around. {{storylink|Volcanicus comic 2}}

====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' comic====
When [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] sent [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]], the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]] and [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] to raid [[Tokyo]] for energy, Trailbreaker accompanied [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] and a unit of Autobot vehicles to defend the city. Trailbreaker didn't perform very well, cowering in fright beneath Menasor's size and taking the [[combiner]]'s humongous fist to the face. Luckily, his pummelling made the perfect distraction for Optimus Prime, [[Wheeljack (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Wheeljack]] and [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]], who drove up a ramp and slammed Menasor and the Seekers directly in their faces, sending them into retreat. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 1|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #1}}

As a member of the [[Four-Wheel Drive Corps]], Trailbreaker accompanied [[Kenji]] and the rest of the team to a crater in [[Kyushu]] where Decepticon activity had been discovered. Entering the crater, however, Trailbreaker and the Corps were caught off-guard by numerous landmines that had been planted by the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]]. As they sunk toward as steaming pit of magma, the other four members of the Corps managed to defeat the Decepticons by forming a human pyramid and using their "Four-Wheel Drive Robo Combination Scrumbuster" attack. Trailbreaker, unfortunately (or perhaps ''fortunately''), had to sit that one out because he was escorting Kenji within himself and couldn't transform to [[robot mode]]. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 3|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #3}}

====Full Throttle Scramble Power!====
Trailbreaker accompanied the massive Autobot reinforcements called in to counter Megatron's nefarious [[Omega Wave Cannon]]. {{storylink|Full Throttle Scramble Power!}}

====''Wings Universe''====
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Trailbreaker was among the Autobots chosen to be part of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#Wings Universe|Optimus Prime]]'s new military. He agreed with [[Jazz (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Jazz]] that dealing with [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#Wings Universe|Megatron]] would be a piece of [[oil cake]]. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 2}} A week later, he was part of the Autobot forces at [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]]'s city walls as the Decepticons broke through with [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 5}} The battle was won, but not without casualties. In search for energy to replenish the Transformers, an Autobot crew including Trailbreaker left the planet in the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]]. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 6}}

====''Cloud''====
Prior to his departure on the ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'', Trailbreaker was witness to the incursion into their spacetime by another [[Optimus Prime (Cloud)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (Cloud)|Megatron]] from [[Cloud World]]. He got knocked around as the foreign Megatron unleashed the power of [[SARA]]. {{storylink|Rampage (Cloud)|Rampage}} {{storylink|TFC-A01}}

====Yolopark comics====
After [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] was replaced since his manufacture by the "[[Cliffjumper (Yolopark)|Cliffjumper]]" of another universe, the unknowing Trailbreaker had her among his comrades that awoke on [[Earth]] in [[1984]]. {{storylink|A Cliffjumper(s) Tale}}

===Marvel Storybooks continuity===
[[File:Autobothuddle-ASW.jpeg|thumb|upright=1.0|left|Bottom left, in the wrong colors.]]
Trailbreaker was present when [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] conveyed a message to Optimus from Megatron. The Autobots learned that Megatron had taken [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] captive, and was demanding the Autobots to surrender. Though the Autobots sent out rescue party, it failed to liberate their comrade. Trailbreaker and the other Autobots became frightened as the situation appeared hopeless, but thanks to an inspirational speech courtesy of [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]], they regained their courage. Trailbreaker was presumably amongst the Autobots who afterwards helped defeat the Decepticons by using a statue of [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] as a {{w|Trojan Horse}} of sorts. {{storylink|The Autobots' Secret Weapon}}

===Marvel Colouring books===
[[File:Bumblebeetdr-trailbreaker.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|Yikes!]]
Trailbreaker, who looks... ''odd'', was captured by the Decepticons under unknown circumstances and put in their special Autobot prison. He and the other prisoners were eventually freed by Bumblebee, after which they struck back against the Decepticons. Trailbreaker projected his force field around some of the villains in order to trap them, and after the battle was won, he and the other Autobots cheered for Bumblebee. Hip hip hooray! {{storylink|Bumblebee to the Rescue!}}

Trailbreaker was one of the many Autobots who followed Optimus into battle when it was discovered that the Decepticons were stealing fuel from all across the globe with the help of a [[molecular transfer device]]. {{storylink|Summertime Coloring Book}}

Trailbreaker joined the Autobot convoy as they left to patrol the area near the Autobot base for Decepticons. Upon their return, the Autobots discovered that the Decepticons had seized the base in their absence. Trailbreaker watched as Optimus Prime sent a fake radio message to lure the Decepticons out into an Autobot ambush. {{storylink|A Message From Outer Space}}

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===Ladybird Books continuity===
{{voiceactor|[[Blain Fairman]] (English)}}
Trailbreaker seems to have an opinion on the viability of neutron drives versus ion drives. Or he was just drunk and felt like he was being ignored. Anyway, Optimus Prime sent him and [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] off to record Decepticon communications traffic. {{storylink|Autobots Fight Back}}

===Listen 'n Play audiobooks continuity===
When the Autobots learned that the Decepticons were abducting humans to ransom for fuel, Trailbreaker took part in a raid on the warehouse where the hostages were being kept, using his force field to block transmissions so that [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] couldn't call for help before they overwhelmed him. The Autobots subsequently fought off Starscream's squad. {{storylink|Sun Raid (Listen 'n Play)}}

===Desert Flight===
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Trailbreaker was part of a group of the Autobots’ best scouts, led by Optimus on a fuel-finding mission. When the convoy heard a large explosion in the distance, Optimus sent Cosmos to investigate the noise.

If Cosmos radioed his findings to Optimus immediately, Optimus's convoy moved in to investigate a nearby Decepticon base. En route, the Autobots passed near a human town, but Trailbreaker was the first to notice that the Autobots had begun floating in mid-air as they approached it. Evidently, the phenomenon was caused by a Decepticon anti-gravity weapon.

If Optimus ordered his troops to come to the humans’ aid, they found themselves taking part in a struggle in futility, as the entire town was near-weightless, meaning they couldn't put the humans anywhere where they wouldn't float away once more. Then, the Autobots heard Decepticons approaching. Helpless in their current position, the Autobots were quickly eradicated by the Decepticons.

If Optimus ordered his troops to attack the Decepticon base, they soon reached an area free of the anti-gravity beam's influence. They were then attacked by a small fleet of Decepticons. The Decepticons were quickly forced to break off their attack and retreated. But with the battle over, the Autobots noticed a small human boy at their feet. The Autobots then headed for the Decepticon base, with their stowaway. Megatron delivered an ultimatum; if the Autobots did not surrender Optimus Prime to the Decepticons immediately, he would use his gravity beam to have the nearby humans float off into space.

If the Autobots decided to continue with their initial plan to simply attack the Decepticon base, their advance was halted by a force field. Megatron then fired his beam in all directions, causing a ripple effect that sent everything not fastened down to the Earth's surface to float helplessly out into space.

Alternatively, the Autobots could concoct a plan where Optimus would pretend to allow himself to be taken prisoner, per Buddy's suggestion. In actuality, Trailbreaker and the rest of the Autobots were hidden away inside Optimus's trailer. The Autobots then led a surprise attack on their unsuspecting foes.

In the event that Buddy tampered with the gravity gun in the ensuing battle, the Autobots would emerge victorious.

In the event that Buddy instead entered a space-time anomaly created throughout the course of the battle, the Autobots would lose their fight against the Decepticons, and Trailbreaker wound up either injured or dead.

If Optimus destroyed the duplicate Cosmos, the real one would inform the Autobots of the Decepticons’ schemes, and the convoy would roll out to take on their adversaries. They were soon met by a squad of flying Decepticons, but were at a strict disadvantage against their adversaries as their vehicle modes possessed no weapons. The Autobots nonetheless managed to fight their way to the Decepticons’ base, one way or another, and defeated the Decepticons by using their own gravity weapon against them. {{storylink|Desert Flight}}
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===Frito-Lay posters===
When the Decepticons attempted to secure precious data about the power source of [[Sherman Dam|Boulder Dam]], Trailbreaker helped in defending it. He and Jazz worked together to back up Optimus Prime in his duel against Megatron. Ultimately, the Autobots were successful in thwarting the Decepticons. {{storylink|Battle in the Desert Valley}}
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===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===
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[[File:Bumblebee trailbreaker war within.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.6]]
Trailbreaker was present under the command of [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] at the battle of [[Altihex]] when the Decepticons destroyed a building full of neutral Cybertronians. Unable to save the city, the Autobots helped evacuate civilians before retreating. Later, Grimlock ordered him, [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]], [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], and others to the ruins of [[Praxus]], where Grimlock declared that if the new [[Prime (rank)|Prime]] was unable to lead successfully, they would take control of the war's leadership... and take out the Prime. This did not come to pass, as Optimus Prime managed to make a good first impression by taking out three assassins sent after him during his inauguration. {{storylink|The War Within issue 1|The War Within #1}} When Decepticon Military Operations Commander [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] led a force of Decepticons against the Autobot capital of [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], Trailbreaker was among the Autobots who defended the city-state. {{storylink|The War Within issue 5|The War Within #5}} Though the Autobots were facing annihilation, they were spared this fate when Starscream activated one of Cybertron's planetary engines, causing a chain reacting which crumbled Iacon into a crater. This drove away Shockwave's forces, and allowed the Autobots to escape into Cybertron's underground to continue the war. {{storylink|The War Within issue 6|The War Within #6}}

[[File:Trailbreaker dark ages.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|right]]
When Decepticon leader [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] and Autobot leader [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] disappeared in an accident with a [[space bridge]], the Autobot and Decepticon forces splintered into smaller factions. Trailbreaker stayed with the Autobots under the leadership of [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]. He and [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] filled in [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] on what missions the rest of their group were on after Jetfire returned from a survey. {{storylink|Devastation (issue)|Devastation}} Trailbreaker was later part of the group of reinforcements that helped battle [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]]. He and his group stood little chance against the giant Decepticon however, and only managed to survive the encounter because Trypticon was recalled to the neutral zones mid-battle. {{storylink|Revelation (The Dark Ages)|Revelation}} Trailbreaker and his allies returned to [[Autobase]] for repairs. There, Trailbreaker informed Prowl that Jetfire had begun to suspect some outside force was manipulating current events on Cybertron. Prowl grew concerned upon finding that Jetfire had gone mission, only for [[The Fallen]] to then break into the Autobots' base to reappropriate [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] from one of their holding cells. The Fallen was temporarily held within a forcefield (much to Trailbreaker's protestation, as several Autobots were imprisoned with him) but managed to break out and took off with Blitzwing. {{storylink|Confrontation (issue)|Confrontation}} Once The Fallen's base of operations was uncovered, Trailbreaker joined a cross-faction army in rushing it to put an end to the ancient Transformer's scheme. Ultimately, The Fallen was defeated by the power of [[Primus]] himself, and all factions agreed to keep the chamber The Fallen had tried to breach sealed to prevent anyone from further abusing the power held within it. {{storylink|Conflagration}}

When Megatron returned with [[Air Warrior|an army of cloned Seekers]] and conquered Cybertron, Trailbreaker was arrested and put to work in [[Internment Camp Pi]]. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath Pt.2}}

{{note|Due to [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]]'s closure, the end of its ''War Within'' series was never published. Years later, [[Simon Furman]] released the unpublished scripts to the final three issues. Within said issues, Optimus would return to Cybertron, and the Autobots would be freed from slavery.}}

Trailbreaker was among the Autobots who followed Optimus Prime on his mission on board the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]]. They were attacked by Megatron's ship, the [[Nemesis (G1)|Nemesis]]. After being boarded, the Ark crash-landed on [[Earth]], where all on board were preserved in emergency stasis. In 1984, a volcanic eruption awakened the Ark's computer, Teletraan I, and it repaired all on board.

[[File:Trailbreaker prime drective.jpg|thumb|left|upright=0.9]]
Eventually, the combined forces of the Autobots on Earth and their human allies were able to capture the Decepticons. In [[1999]], a ship called the ''[[Ark II]]'' was built to take the Cybertronians back to Cybertron, along with some human companions, but the ship exploded shortly after takeoff. The human allies were killed, but the Cybertronians were lost in the ocean, again in stasis lock. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 1|Prime Directive #1}} Three years later, Spike Witwicky assisted the US "Defense Ministry" in reactivating Optimus Prime by placing a piece of the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] into his chest. Optimus traveled to the remote Arctic shoreline where he'd been found after the crash and used the Matrix to revive Jazz, Mirage, Sideswipe, Sunstreaker, [[Superion (G1)|Superion]], Trailbreaker and Wheeljack from where they lay under the waves. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 2|Prime Directive #2}}

Shortly afterwards, the Autobots assisted the US military in rescuing the survivors of the Smitco Oil Refinery attack. When Optimus Prime learned the attackers were Autobots and Decepticons under the control of terrorist arms dealer [[Lazarus|Adam Rook]], he asked his Autobots to accompany him to fight for '''Great JUSTICE.''' Trailbreaker was among the Autobots who agreed to come along, stating that Prime only needed to point him in the right direction. Trailbreaker participated in the battle at Rook's destroyed base when [[Robert Hallo|General Hallo]] double-crossed them and attempted to destroy all the Transformers with a low-yield [[nuclear weapon]]. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 3|Prime Directive #3}}

[[File:DW Trailbreaker Devastatorstomp.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Devastator crush puny Autobot... and make scale joke while crushing. Har har har!]]
After the Autobots extricated themselves from the nuke-absorbing hardened virus shell, Trailbreaker helped rescue the captive Autobots Megatron was using to fuel his technovirus. After Ironhide informed the other Autobots of Megatron's imminent attack on [[San Francisco]], they flew there and engaged the Decepticons. Trailbreaker smashed Grimlock in the face with a steel girder and informed the former Dinobot commander that he'd made the wrong choice in leaving the Autobots and was now going to pay. Unfortunately, Superion was taken down by the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]] and [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], prompting Trailbreaker to join Optimus Prime, Sideswipe and Megatron in a moment of [[dull surprise]], gaping at Devastator as if they had never seen him before. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 4|Prime Directive #4}}

As Jazz and the Autobots in [[Canada]] were preparing to deal with the technovirus, Trailbreaker frantically radioed them for backup, reporting that Superion was down. As he was distracted, Devastator attempted to stomp on the Autobot. Trailbreaker caught the foot in time, but was crushed into the pavement. He was later retrieved and placed into restraint by the Decepticons as Megatron attempted to convince Optimus Prime to join his cause to wipe out the humans and rule the universe. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 5|Prime Directive #5}} Once Prime managed to free the Autobots with assistance from human firefighters, Trailbreaker resumed his assault on Grimlock by sending him flying with a punch. After Superion sacrificed himself to save San Francisco from General Hallo's unauthorized nuclear strike, Trailbreaker called Optimus over when he and Sideswipe discovered the abandoned Grimlock under rubble. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 6|Prime Directive #6}}

''While the [[Keeper (species)|Keepers]] were invading Earth, the Transformers also had to deal with an over-reaching American President who wanted to destroy all the Cybertronians. He offered the Autobots his help in setting up an ambush for the Decepticons, but Prime and his advisors quickly realized the President planned to eliminate all of them. Taking what seemed to be the lesser of two evils at the moment, the Autobots forged an alliance with the Decepticons before travelling to the ambush site. Trailbreaker was among the Autobot soldiers Optimus chose for the battle. He fought against the military forces and apparently survived the attack of the [[deconstructionite]]s relatively unharmed. {{storylink|Transformers: Fusion|Fusion}}''

[[File:Prowl hound trailbreaker war and peace.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.9]]
Months later, the united Cybertronian army arrived on Earth, demanding the surrender of all combatant Autobots and Decepticons. When they came under attack from Shockwave and the [[Triple Changer]]s, Trailbreaker used his force field to the retreat of Optimus Prime's Autobots. He was later out on patrol with Prowl and [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] when he suffered serious injuries battling [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] and the Seekers, {{storylink|New World Order}} and had to be placed in a [[CR chamber]] for repairs on the flight back to Cybertron. After Shockwave's fall, he joined Prowl and the rest of the Ark's old crew for a meeting {{storylink|Original Sin}} where they decided to return to Earth, to work on the construction of a new Autobot City. Though many objected to leaving Cybertron after having returned to it for such a brief period of time, Trailbreaker reminded the others (especially Mirage) that they needed to put their friends first, and that their human allies would need their protection as threats would inevitably pop up. {{storylink|Atonement}}
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===3H comics===
[[File:Rattrap legs.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|Gah! Someone call an exterminator!]]
Trailbreaker, and fellow Autobots [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]], and [[Shadow Striker (Universe)|Shadow Striker]] and [[Roulette (Universe)|Roulette]] returned to Cybertron after a long absence. They arrived on the newly technorganic Cybertron roughly one year after the defeat of [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|this era's Megatron]]. They were welcomed by the surviving members of [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]]'s band of [[Maximal]]s, including [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]], who offered to share a vintage keg of [[Maccadam's Old Oil House|Maccadam's Old Oil]] with the Autobot veteran. Unfortunately, Trailbreaker did not have an opportunity to take Rattrap up on his offer, because immediately afterwards, he and his associates were abducted by [[Unicron]] and teleported to the [[Cauldron]]. There, they were rebuilt against their will into new bodies... except Trailbreaker, because why mess with success? {{storylink|Abduction}}

Alongside his fellow abductees, Trailbreaker was placed inside his own energy cage while in the queue for the his own death match. He speculated that each cage was keyed to its captive's [[bio-mechanical aura]]. When Optimus Primal arrived to save the captives and grappeled with [[Razorclaw (Universe)|Razorclaw]], Trailbreaker and [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)|Silverbolt]] initiated a [[primary system program transfer]], in essence becoming each other. He and Silverbolt then initiated a mass jailbreak, and dozens of Transformers stormed their captors. The horde stampeded across the bridge that Trailbreaker and his fellow abductees to the arena, only for a corrupted Shadow Striker to blast away the bridge. Primal then had [[Snarl (BM)|Snarl]], a [[Matrix Templar]], call upon [[Primus]] to open a portal out of Unicron, and Trailbreaker safely arrived on his native technorganic Cybertron. {{storylink|Escape (Universe)|Escape}}

Back on Cybertron, [[Striker]] and [[Ratchet (Universe)|Ratchet]] tried to remove the [[Unicron virus]] from Sideswipe. When Ratchet grumbled about the distraction from Rattrap and [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]]'s debate over Optimus Primal's sanity, Trailbreaker ushered them out while voicing his confidence in Primal. {{storylink|Homecoming (Universe)|Homecoming}}

Some time later, Optimus Primal led the [[Child of Primus|Children of Primus]], which included Trailbreaker, into a final fight with the [[Minion of Unicron (Universe)|Minions of Unicron]] on the surface of Unicron himself. However, as their victory was imminent, Unicron began to dissolve beneath their very feet, and [[King Atlas]] had to carry Trailbreaker and Roulette to safety through a transwarp portal back to their native Cybertron. {{storylink|Revelations Part 2}}

===''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers''===
[[File:GIJoevsTF5 Autobots.jpg|thumb|upright=1|left]]
Trailbreaker was among the Transformers discovered on Earth by [[Cobra]], and reworked into a piloted death mechanism known as a [[Stinger (G.I. Joe)|Stinger]]. The Transformers were eventually freed, and the Autobots fought both their Decepticon enemies and their Cobra oppressors. During the battle, Trailbreaker and several other Autobots located [[Cobra Commander]] and tried to capture him, but he was protected by Cobra troops in robotic [[S.N.A.K.E.]] suits. Unfortunately, the Autobots underestimated their human opponents, and Trailbreaker was decapitated by [[Storm Shadow]] during the battle. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 5|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #5}}

This was apparently not as fatal as it seemed, however, as Trailbreaker was up and fighting again shortly afterwards. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 6|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #6}}
{{--}}

===2005 IDW continuity===
{{first|''[[Spotlight: Kup]]''}}

[[File:Trailbreaker all our parlous yesterdays.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|Rodimus knew Trailcutter was something special from the first moment he saw him...chronologically]]
Before the war, Trailbreaker's force field ability marked him as an [[Outlier (group)|outlier]]: a Cybertronian with special powers that didn't match up with their [[alternate mode]]. This got him noticed by [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Senator Shockwave]], who took him and other outliers in at the [[Jhiaxian Academy of Advanced Technology]] to nurture their abilities and protect them from [[functionism|functionists]]. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}} After Shockwave was taken away by the [[Senate]], the outliers fell in with his friend [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Orion Pax]], aiding him in protecting a new [[hot spot (phenomenon)|hot spot]] from [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]]'s forces. Joining forces with a second group claiming to be reinforcements—in actuality [[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rodimus]] and his crew time-traveling from the distant future—Trailbreaker was taken aside by Rodimus who tried to change history by warning him of his eventual death. Unfortunately, once Trailbreaker was done using his force field to protect the hot spot long enough for the day to be saved, he shook hands with [[Chromedome (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Chromedome]], causing his memories of the encounter to be wiped. {{storylink|Elegant Chaos Part 1: All Our Parlous Yesterdays|All Our Parlous Yesterdays}}

Trailbreaker later began serving in the Security Forces under the command of Sentinel Prime, during which he participated in the battle of [[Kaon (polity)|Kaon]] where the criminal known as [[Megatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Megatron]] began a rampage with his army of convicts. He was kicked off a walkway by [[Starscream (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Starscream]] when he attempted to grab him as he was flying away. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 4|Megatron Origin #4}}

When the war broke out, Trailbreaker responded to [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Optimus Prime's]] call of distress against Megatron and his Decepticon forces who had overthrown the government and were now ruling Cybertron. He participated in the battle at the [[Citadel (building)|Citadel]] and managed to block most of the Decepticon attacks with his force field but couldn't withstand Megatron's [[vamparc ribbon|vamparc annihilator]]. {{storylink|Endgame}} During a Decepticon surprise attack on [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], Trailbreaker used his force field to save the giant warrior. {{storylink|Primacy issue 4|Primacy #4}}

[[File:SpotlightKup Trailbreaker.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1|Mommy told me never to open the door to strangers.]]
Many years later, Trailbreaker was called in by [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] to extract a deranged [[Kup (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Kup]] safely from [[Tsiehshi|the planet]] where he had crash-landed. The planet possessed [[Ore-8|a radiation]] which was dangerous to Transformers without special protective covering, causing Kup, in his delusions, to believe his rescuers were monsters trying to attack him. Trailbreaker's force fields allowed him to walk on the planet without any protective gear, and his appearance shocked Kup for long enough that he could save the old bot's spark core from meltdown. {{storylink|Spotlight: Kup}}

Later, he was one of [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]]'s old friends who took time off duty to greet the return of "The Voice". {{storylink|Spotlight: Blaster}}

A year later, Trailbreaker had joined [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Optimus Prime]]'s team of Autobots on [[Earth]]. They made a plan to drive the Decepticons off the planet once and for all, but fell into a trap and were defeated by [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 7|All Hail Megatron #7}} Trailbreaker and the rest were subsequently dumped on the ruined [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to be finished off by the [[Insecticon swarm]]. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 1|All Hail Megatron #1}}

Frustrated at being stranded on Cybertron, he listened to [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks's]] story about how awesome and cool [[Jazz (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Jazz]] is to pass the time. {{storylink|Spotlight: Jazz}}

[[File:Autobots all hail megatron 4.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|Trailbroken]]
His primary role appeared to be playing bodyguard to [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]], making sure nobody lynched the guy for being a suspected traitor. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 4|All Hail Megatron #4}} After the Autobot starship ''[[Trion]]'' crash-landed on the planet, Trailbreaker and the others listened to [[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Hot Rod]]'s story about what happened. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 5|All Hail Megatron #5}} They proceeded to mingle with the rest of ''Trion''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> crew. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 6|All Hail Megatron #6}} Trailbreaker later oversaw the process of putting a giant cannon in place on the Autobots' temporary base. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 9|All Hail Megatron #9}}

After the [[Surge (event)|Surge]], Trailbreaker split his time between Earth and the [[Kimia Facility]], where he served on the [[Ethics Committee]] alongside [[Xaaron]] and [[Animus]]. Around two years after the fall of Megatron, he attended a meeting over [[Ironfist (G1)|Ironfist]]'s newest invention, [[cerebro-sensitive bullet]]s, and openly disapproved enough of both the weapons and their inventor to see their usage banned. {{storylink|Bullets}} Subsequently, returning to Earth, Trailbreaker was present when Hot Rod announced his plans to abandon the planet and what was left of the war, but chose not to join the Autobot cavalier or his followers. {{storylink|Things Fall Apart, Part 1: "New Arrivals, Old Encounters"|New Arrivals, Old Encounters}}

[[File:Trailbreaker rodimus numbers.jpg|thumb|upright=1.8|left|"Hot—Rodimus is a nice guy, I'm sure this won't become a trend..."]]
When news of the threat of [[Galvatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Galvatron]]'s army reached the Autobots on Earth, however, Trailbreaker changed his tune and volunteered to join Optimus Prime in returning to Cybertron to combat the threat. {{storylink|Space Opera—Final Tableaux: Orphans of the Helix|Orphans of the Helix}} During the trip, he spent a lot of time staring at Megatron, now in Autobot captivity. {{storylink|Chaos Theory Part 1|Chaos Theory #1}} Upon arriving at Cybertron, the Autobots were faced with Kimia Facility, which had been captured by Galvatron, transformed into a giant laser cannon and used to fire on the planet. Rodimus (formerly Hot Rod) grabbed Trailbreaker and had him project a force field around the cannon's muzzle, but it proved too weak to stop the next blast. The shock of having his force field ripped apart knocked him unconscious, and he had to be repaired by [[Garnak]]. {{storylink|Chaos Part One: Lamentations|Lamentations}} {{storylink|Chaos Part Two: Numbers|Numbers}}

After the battle was won and peace was restored to Cybertron, Trailbreaker joined Rodimus's crew on the ''[[Lost Light]]''. They left Cybertron to search for the [[Knights of Cybertron]] and were promptly lost in space. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|Hangers On}} Their quest already off to a bad start, things only got worse when the [[Duobot]] [[Shock (G1)|Shock]] was slain by a stowaway [[Sparkeater (creature)|Sparkeater]]. When [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] attempted to shoot the creature, Trailbreaker was forced to protect it with a force field in order to prevent the sparks it had consumed from igniting. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things}} Trailbreaker was later seen hanging around [[Swerve's|Swerve's newly opened bar]]. {{storylink|Life After the Big Bang}}

[[File:Spotlight- Trailcutter forcefield face.jpg|thumb|upright=1|Dat Ass.]]
Not long afterwards, the ''Lost Light'' was gouged open by a mysterious piece of space debris, but Trailbreaker was on hand to shield the breach whilst the trio of Chromedome, [[Brainstorm (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Brainstorm]] and [[Highbrow (G1)|Highbrow]] fixed things up. When, subsequently, only those three received [[Rodimus Star]]s for their efforts, Trailbreaker was not best pleased, and wound up taking self-help advice from Whirl. They got as far as choosing the new name "'''Trailcutter'''" before the newly christened forcefield specialist became fed up and went to his hab suite for recharge.

On awakening, Trailcutter found everyone else aboard the ''Lost Light'' mysteriously frozen in place, and his forcefield powers gone. Worse yet, the ship had been boarded by a party of Decepticon [[Titan Hunter]]s seeking the debris from earlier, actually a chunk of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]. After giving a pair of invaders the slip with his [[magnawheels]], Trailcutter confronted their leader, [[Lockdown (G1)|Lockdown]], in the shuttle bay. Using a remote for the ship's gravity and advice from Whirl about "bigging himself up", he was able to convince the Decepticons that he was a super-powerful forcefield warrior who could crush their sparks with a thought, and the boarding party turned tail and ran.

Later, the crew's freezing was revealed as the work of a malfunctioning Brainstorm device, and that Trailcutter been protected by throwing forcefields as he powered down, which in turn temporarily shorted out the fields. Receiving a Rodimus Star for his actions, the forcefield specialist was briefly cheerful until he learned that the rest of the crew had been awarded huge shields for "enduring" the freezing effect. {{storylink|The Reluctant Specialist}}

[[File:Interiors-Trailbreaker.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|left|D'oh!]]
Grumpy once more, Trailcutter went to Swerve's, where he watched Chromedome show off his ability to identify an Autobot just by their transformation sound. Still resentful of his own reputation as a one-trick pony and with a little too much [[engex]] in him, Trailcutter began tipsily ranting about [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]]'s overblown reputation and leg guns, just as Max himself walked into the bar. He then began to compliment the bot on the exact things that Trailcutter had just been ranting about. Fortress Maximus ignored him in favor of shooting [[Pipes (G1)|Pipes]]. {{storylink|Interiors}} Later, he and [[Jackpot (G1)|Jackpot]] made fun of Ultra Magnus after the toughened officer had smiled. {{storylink|Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations|You, Me, and Other Revelations}} [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]] stole a bottle of [[Nightmare Fuel]] from his secret stash to serve during one of [[Rewind (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rewind]]'s story sessions. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}}

At some point, Trailcutter had Brainstorm install guns in his legs. [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] admired them as they traveled to [[Temptoria]] in the ''[[Leading Light]]'' to attack a Decepticon base. {{storylink|Before & After}} He would later attend an "[[alternate mode|alt mode]] party", held by [[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]] as part of a wager with Swerve. {{storylink|Little Victories}} When [[Overlord (G1)|Overlord]] was freed on board the ''Lost Light'', Trailcutter was part of the assault led by Rodimus to stop the Decepticon. {{storylink|Under Cold Blue Stars}} In the aftermath of the battle, he suggested to [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] that bereaved Chromedome might be out on the ship's hull, a place that Rewind and the mnemosurgeon often spent time together. {{storylink|The Gloaming}}

[[File:Trailcutter dipstick hoist house of ambus.jpg|thumb|upright=1.9|Dat. ASS!]]
A short while later, the ''Lost Light'' encountered the missing [[Moonbase One|Luna 1]], and the craft was invaded by [[Legislator]] robots working for the deranged Chief Justice [[Solomus|Tyrest]], who sought to arrest the crew for harbouring the fugitive Skids. During their assault, Trailcutter used his forcefields to protect Hoist and a wounded [[Dipstick]], {{storylink|Remain in Light 2 of 5: House of Ambus|House of Ambus}} but the ship was eventually captured. {{storylink|Remain in Light 3 of 5: The Divided Self|The Divided Self}} The crew was subsequently freed when the Legislators were withdrawn and then immobilised thanks to events on Luna 1's surface. {{storylink|Remain in Light 5 of 5: This Calamitous Life|This Calamitous Life}}

When the fragment of Metroplex on board the ''Lost Light'' began pulling the ship off course, Trailcutter was brought into the discussion to share what he'd learned about the object from Lockdown. {{storylink|Winners & Losers: Dark Cybertron Chapter 3|Winners & Losers}} The crew followed the signal summoning the fragment to [[Hydrophena]], where they were attacked by hostile [[Ammonite]]s. {{storylink|Into the Abyss: Dark Cybertron Chapter 4|Into the Abyss}} Trailcutter was among those who set out to defend the ship while others searched for Metroplex. {{storylink|The Dead Are Not Enough: Dark Cybertron Chapter 7|The Dead Are Not Enough}} Using Metroplex's [[space bridge]], the ''Lost Light'' was able to return to Cybertron, where the crew was reunited with [[Bumblebee (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Bumblebee]]'s Autobots. {{storylink|Finis Temporis: Dark Cybertron Chapter 9|Finis Temporis}} Once Metroplex brought down the rampaging [[Necrotitan]], everyone finally had a chance to unwind and just mingle for a while. {{storylink|The Becoming: Dark Cybertron Chapter 10|The Becoming}} Once all the dust had settled, Trailbreaker attended Megatron's trial at the [[Raskol Arena]] on [[Moonbase Two|Luna 2]]. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace|Towards Peace}} Later, at a "F**K OFF MEGATRON" party in Swerve's, he entertained the other patrons by larking about with his magnawheels. {{storylink|No Guns, No Swords, No Briefcases}}

[[File:Trailcutter drunk words hang in the air.jpg|thumb|left|upright=0.9|"I found these big chewy pretzels that aberor go bwaaah hebabeer FIVE DOLLARS?! Get outta here!"]]
After the ''Lost Light'' relaunched with Megatron as "co-captain", [[Jackpot (G1)|Jackpot]] was drinking with Trailcutter before the Gambling 'Bot was taken to the Medibay by [[Mainframe (G1)|Mainframe]]. Trailcutter later complained about how everyone merely talking about Megatron being captain was boring. [[Riptide (G1)|Riptide]] managed to convince Trailcutter to break into the Medibay to get some of Megatron's "superfuel". Upon reaching the Medibay, the forcefield specialist found that the door had been locked but was amazed to see the door disappear - allowing him to enter and drink some of the supposed superfuel. His entry of the Medibay triggered the activation of the silent alarms that brought Megatron and a security team down to arrest him, this caused Trailcutter to activate a "panic bubble" that he had no control over. Once the bubble was deactivated, Megatron engaged Trailcutter's [[fuel intake moderation chip]] permanently and, seeking to provide him with purpose, appointed him Director of Security.. Trailcutter's first job was to perform a risk assessment of the mysterious coffin that his forcefield had cracked open. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 2: Words Hang in the Air|Words Hang in the Air}}

Megatron's intervention had a strong effect on Trailcutter, who took to his new position with gusto. While still considered a gregarious and well-liked member of the crew, Trailcutter started to share more of himself and to even took to reading [[Towards Peace|Megatron's autobiography]], taking the text fairly seriously. {{storylink|Births, Deaths, and Interventions}} However, the gradual disappearance and resulting evacuation of the ''Lost Light'' prevented him from reading too far before he was temporarily phased out of existence by a bunch of wibbily wobbily timey wimey stuff. {{storylink|Twenty Plus One}}

An alternate Trailbreaker was created when the ''Lost Light''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s [[quantum generator|quantum engines]] malfunctioned. This duplicate Trailbreaker was forced to transform before being executed by the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] when they boarded the ship and slaughtered the crew. {{storylink|slaughterhouse}} His corpse presumably vanished with the rest of his ''Lost Light'' when the main ''Lost Light'' crew shut down the duplicate ship's quantum engines. {{storylink|Slaughterhouse Part 2: The Road Not Taken|The Road Not Taken}}

[[File:BirthsDeathsAndInterventions-kaonkillstrailcutter.jpg|thumb|upright=1.2|Above: Trailcutter's forcefield in action. Trailcutter, not so much.]]
Following the resolution of the quantum paradox, Trailcutter, [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]], Mainframe, and [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] set their shuttle down on [[Ofsted XVII]], where they found an injured Transformer. Generous as ever and eager to live up to his new lease on life, Trailcutter was happy to answer First Aid's call for a donation of energon to save the stranger's life, and insisted on doing so even after learning that the bot wasn't only a Decepticon, but a member of the ''Decepticon Justice Division''. The Decepticon, [[Vos (G1)|Vos]], repaid his kindness by attacking him immediately, forcing him to activate his panic bubble while First Aid ran for reinforcements. What he didn't know was he'd trapped himself inside the bubble with a ''second'' D.J.D. member, [[Kaon (G1)|Kaon]], who viciously tore him apart, removed his [[brain module]] and crushed it against his own force field. {{storylink|Births, Deaths, and Interventions}} Trailcutter's remains were returned to the ''Lost Light'', where somebody placed the Rodimus Star he had so longed for in his hand. {{storylink|The Custom-Made Now - An Elegant Chaos Prologue|The Custom-Made Now}}

When Megatron and "[[Team Rodimus (G1)|Team Rodimus]]" were betrayed by the rest of the crew and stranded on the [[Necroworld]], [[Ten]] invoked Trailcutter's image in order to bypass his limited vocabulary and effectively communicate to the others a method of powering up the [[Mortilus|Necrobot]]'s [[storm-shield]]. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 2: The Sun in Flight|The Sun in Flight}} Subsequently, it was revealed that Megatron had swiped Trailcutter's force-field generators from his corpse and spent a considerable amount of time figuring out how to make them work for him. Through a combination of extreme brute force and cunning psychology, Megatron managed to trap the Decepticon Justice Division in a panic bubble with ''him'' and tore them apart with his [[antimatter]] powers, avenging his former protégé in a most apposite manner. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle|Do Not Go Gentle}}

Some time later on Luna 1, Red Alert remembered Trailbreaker queuing to join the crew of the ''Lost Light'' alongside such incongruous characters as First Aid, Bumblebee and [[Ironfist (G1)|Ironfist]]. {{storylink|Last Light (issue)|Last Light}} A simulation of Trailcutter later appeared to Team Rodimus on [[Mederi]] alongside the also-deceased Pipes. {{storylink|The Everlasting Voices (1): Metastasis|Metastasis}} The two tried to convince the others that they were in the [[Transformer afterlife|Afterspark]] and everyone should accept death. {{storylink|The Everlasting Voices (2): The God War|The God War}} However, the truth behind Mederi was soon uncovered and the apparitions of Trailcutter and Pipes vanished. {{storylink|The Everlasting Voices (3): You Are Here|You Are Here}}

Trailcutter appeared among the spirits of the dead that welcomed [[Soundwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Soundwave]] into the Afterspark. {{storylink|Ceremony}}
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===''Hearts of Steel''===
[[File:HoundTrailblazerRatchetnfestation2-1.jpeg|thumb|right|upright=1.3]]
'''Trailblazer''' was one of Autobots active in [[1888]], and transformed into a locomotive. He formed a train with [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] and [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] in order to bring [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]], [[Tobias Muldoon]], and [[Nikola Tesla]] to the glacier where [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] lay dormant. {{storylink|Infestation 2: The Transformers issue 1|Infestation 2: The Transformers #1}} He then helped launch the [[Tesla tower|device]] Tesla made to generate the electricity needed to reactivate Prime, and along with the other Autobots, gave up his his own power reserves for it to work. Once Prime was back, he revived his troops and led them to [[Port Cenotaph]] to fight the minions of an [[Elder God]]. {{storylink|Infestation 2: The Transformers issue 2|Infestation 2: The Transformers #2}}

{{IDW HOS}}

===''Kre-O'' cartoon===
'''Trailcutter''' took part in a game of soccer against [[Airachnid (Prime)|Airachnid]] and the Constructicons. {{storylink|Ultimate Defender}}

===''Transformers vs. G.I. Joe''===
[[File:EverybodyHatesMetroplex SunstreakerTrailbreaker.jpg|thumb|upright=0.7|left|"Wouldn't it be wacky if we ended up on [[Lost Light|a ship]] with him?"]]
Trailbreaker was stationed within [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] when both [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] and a mind-controlled [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] lay siege to the Autobot city. To his great confusion, [[Hot Rod (G1)|Imhotep Rodimus]] returned to Metroplex in the midst of the battle to retake his place as leader of the Autobots (as far as Trailbreaker was concerned, Rodimus was a "washed up bum"). {{storylink|Everybody Hates Metroplex}}

Once Optimus returned to Cybertron and retook command of the Autobots, Trailbreaker participated in the final battle against the combined forces of [[Cobra]] and the Decepticons. {{storylink|Transformers vs. G.I. Joe issue 12|Transformers vs. G.I. Joe #12}}

===Ask Vector Prime===
When the [[Renegade]]s of [[Gargent 087.0 Kappa]] tricked the [[Guardian (GoBots)|Guardian]]s into leaving Earth and then sealed the planet off with an [[Embargo Field]], Guardians [[Nick Burns|Nick]] and [[Tri-Trak]], stranded behind the field, contacted their Autobot allies in [[Primax 085.0 Eta]] for help. [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] gave Trailbreaker a [[Spychanger|Spy Changer]] upgrade, and the two went to help the Guardians on Gargent Earth. With Trailbreaker's expertise in force fields, they were soon able to discover and deactivate the Renegades' Embargo Field generator at the [[Eiffel Tower]], forcing the Renegades to retreat as the Guardians returned en masse. {{storylink|Source:Ask Vector Prime/Facebook#September 9, 2015|Ask Vector Prime, 30/09/2015}}

Wheeljack, Trailbreaker, Prowl, Jazz, Red Alert, Hoist, and Silverstreak later embarked on a mission to an alternate dimension when the Decepticons kidnapped Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Transformers: Renegade Rhetoric|Renegade Rhetoric, 2016/05/02}} Shortly after arriving, Prowl, Silverstreak, and Trailbreaker encountered Soundwave, Rumble, and Frenzy at a [[Unit:E]] military base. {{storylink|Transformers: Renegade Rhetoric|Renegade Rhetoric, 2016/05/03}} Trailbreaker put his force fields to use against both the Decepticons and antagonistic human organizations like [[Intelligence and Information Institute|Triple-I]] and the [[Society of Ultimate Villainy]], {{storylink|Transformers: Renegade Rhetoric|Renegade Rhetoric, 2016/05/02}} but the couldn't prevent the Decepticons from upgrading themselves into [[Go-Bot (G2)|Go-Bot]]s and brainwashing Optimus into the evil [[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Nemesis Prime]]. Had it not been for Trailbreaker's force field, the Autobots might've perished; instead, they held out long enough to retreat to a nearby [[Vintage Salvage Depot for the Discriminating Nostalgist|scrapyard]] to lick their wounds, and Trailbreaker wound up leaving with a rebellious Red Alert and Silverstreak. {{storylink|Transformers: Renegade Rhetoric|Renegade Rhetoric (2), 2016/05/12}}

Trailbreaker returned to the main Autobot force in time to battle Nemesis Prime and his followers as they hijacked the D-5 supertrain as it launched from [[Jasper]], [[Nevada]]. In the ensuing battle, Frenzy's sonic vibrations penetrated Trailbreaker's force field and allowed him to steal the train. While trying to free human hostages, Trailbreaker admitted that his force field couldn't protect them from gunfire and he was forced to back down. Ultimately, however, Optimus was able to reassert himself when forced into nearly killing a human, and amidst the confusion the Autobots successfully captured several of the Decepticons responsible for the plot. The Autobots regrouped and headed for Megatron's lair, only to learn that he'd already fled through the [[Reality Bridge]] into another universe. At that moment, a [[Waspinator (BW)|unfamiliar Cybertronian]] materialized and told the Autobots he needed their help to save six Cybertronian sparks from the manipulations of their Megatron. With no other option, Wheeljack and his team followed their unexpected guide into the breach, but vowed to one day return home. {{storylink|Transformers: Renegade Rhetoric|Renegade Rhetoric (2), 2016/07/14}}

===''Prime Wars Trilogy'' marketing material===

<s>Trailbreaker</s> <s>Trailcutter</s> ''Trailbreaker'', who had once changed his name to try and boost his confidence, was a point of particular concern for [[Rung (G1)#Prime Wars Trilogy marketing material|Rung]]. He noted that despite saving a great number of Autobots' lives thanks to the powerful forcefields he generated, being equipped with impressive [[magnawheels]], and his upbeat personality, the irreplaceable Autobot suffered from serious self-worth issues even with the trust and support of his teammates. Rung went so far as to consider this his only weakness. {{storylink|Source:Combiner Wars pack-in comic bios|Trailbreaker's bio}}

Candidates for the combination that would come to be known as [[Sky Reign #Prime Wars Trilogy marketing material|Sky Reign]] were chosen {{storylink|Source:Combiner Wars pack-in comic bios|Wheeljack's bio}}{{storylink|Source:Combiner Wars pack-in comic bios|Smokescreen's bio}} by other Autobots. {{storylink|Source:Combiner Wars pack-in comic bios|Trailbreaker's bio}}

When [[Sky Lynx (G1)#Prime Wars Trilogy marketing material|Sky Lynx]] mastered the act of combination Sky Reign proved to be a ferocious beast on the battlefield, {{storylink|Sky Lynx (G1)#Combiner Wars|Sky Lynx's bio}} serving the Autobot cause on Cybertron. {{storylink|Source:Combiner Wars pack-in comic bios|Wheeljack's bio}}{{storylink|Source:Combiner Wars pack-in comic bios|Autobot Hound's bio}}{{storylink|Source:Combiner Wars pack-in comic bios|Trailbreaker's bio}}{{storylink|Source:Combiner Wars pack-in comic bios|Smokescreen's bio}}

===''Beast Wars: Uprising''===
'''Trailcutter''' died during the Great War. The [[Micromaster]] [[Hydraulic]] considered him to be his "great-uncle". {{storylink|Derailment}}

===''Mazinger Z versus Transformers''===
One of the many Autobots and Decepticons transported to the Japan of an alternate universe, Trailbreaker was one of the Autobots who was impressed by [[Doctor Hell]] and [[Baron Ashura]]'s collection of monstrous [[Mechanical Beast]]s. Shortly afterwards, he took part in the battle against the [[Mazinger Z]] super robot when the evil scientist mislead Optimus Prime and his followers into making an attack on the [[Photonic Power Laboratory]]. {{storylink|Mazinger Z versus Transformers}}

===''Transformers/Ghostbusters''===
[[File:GhostsOfCybertron-Part1-Trailbreaker.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]
Trailbreaker took part in the final battle of the Great War before the launch of the ''Ark'' and the arrival of [[Gozer]]. {{storylink|Ghosts of Cybertron Part 1}}

===''War for Cybertron Trilogy'' marketing material===
[[File:Earthrise-Trailbreaker-art.jpg|thumb|upright=0.6|left]]

{{bigquote|An Autobot is as good as the Energon in his tank.}}

After Cybertron fell, the Autobots left their homeworld aboard the ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'', traveling through space in pursuit of the [[AllSpark]]. Trailbreaker was a [[Cybertronian military insignia|Ground Command Special Ops Captain]], {{storylink|Trailbreaker (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Earthrise|''Earthrise'' toy packaging}} whose function was a defensive strategist. His primary objective was to be efficient, and his primary weapon was the [[Concussion weapon|Concussion Beam]]. {{storylink|War for Cybertron: Earthrise|''Earthrise'' webpage}}<ref>[https://transformers.hasbro.com/en-us/brands/earthrise ''Earthrise'' website]</ref>

===''Transformers vs. The Terminator''===
While fighting the [[T-800]] aboard the ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'', [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] blasted him into Trailbreaker's still-deactivated body. {{storylink|Enemy of My Enemy Part Two}}

===''My Little Pony/Transformers''===
During the final battle against [[King Sombra]], Optimus Prime and his Autobots advanced under the cover of Trailbreaker's impervious force field. {{storylink|Finale (The Magic of Cybertron)|Finale}}

===Energon Universe===
[[File:TF2023no16 Trailbreaker.jpg|thumb|upright=1.8|In case you were wondering this time around.]]
Trailbreaker was part of the ''Ark'''s crew and about to be reactivated by [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] when [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] halted the process by destroying the Autobots' power source. {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 5|Transformers #5}} Later, [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] attempted to revive Trailbreaker again. Though the restoration device was once again destroyed when the Decepticons suddenly attacked, {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 15|Transformers #15}} Trailbreaker managed to reactivate and quickly used his force field to protect some humans that had wandered into the crossfire. {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 16|Transformers #16}}

Tracking the combiner brawl to [[Seattle]], Trailbreaker took part in evacuating humans caught in the crossfire. {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 17|Transformers #17}} When [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] suddenly returned and halted the Decepticon in-fighting, Optimus ordered the Autobots to retreat. {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 18|Transformers #18}}

Retreating to the ''Ark'', the Autobots prepared for an assault, Trailbreaker manning one of the turrets and flagging [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]'s location to Optimus. Though Optimus sought to turn Megatron's stolen [[fusion cannon]] on Starscream, Megatron forced the weapon to take aim at the Autobots before the ''Ark'' suddenly teleported away. As the Autobots picked themselves up, Optimus ordered them to shoot off Megatron's arm, his troops reluctantly obeying before [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] arrived to evacuate the Autobots. Though they managed to escape the battle, Megatron, having reattached his arm, managed to fire one last shot that killed [[Slingshot (G1)|Slingshot]]. {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 21|Transformers #21}}

After Superion made a crash landing, the Autobots were rescued by the people of [[Farmingham]]. Upon arriving at the town, Optimus and Spike fell into a trance induced by the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. As the Decepticons continued their advance, the people began an evacuation to [[Chicago]] for a last stand. {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 22|Transformers #22}}

Sheltering in the [[Alder Planetarium]], the Autobots laid Optimus to rest before [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] arrived, rallying the Autobots to fight in Optimus' honour. The Decepticons soon managed to break through the Autobots' lines, Magnus dragging a wounded Trailbreaker away. {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 23|Transformers #23}} Trailbreaker lay among the defeated Autobots, but ultimately Optimus Prime managed to defeat Megatron and force the Decepticons into a retreat. {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 24|Transformers #24}}

Trailbreaker aided in recovery and rescue in Chicago after the battle. {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 25|Transformers #25}} {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 26|Transformers #26}} He returned to the ''Ark'' in time for a number of Autobots to be reactivated, including [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] and [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]. Trailbreaker was in the middle of filling them in on what had happened when [[Bulkhead (G1)|Bulkhead]] barged into the room and made things uncomfortable with his boisterousness. Shortly thereafter, Trailbreaker bore witness to [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] formally joining the Autobots. {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 27|Transformers #27}}

==Games==
===Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons===
When Optimus embarked on his mission to rescue the Autobots' [[Mini Vehicle|Minicar]] troops from the Decepticons, Trailbreaker could come to Optimus Prime's aid, helping him navigate more quickly through the Decepticons' maze-like base. {{storylink|Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons|Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons packaging blurb and game}}

===3D Battle-Card Game===
Trailbreaker was one of [[Optimus Primal (BW)|Optimus Primal]]'s many Autobot allies in a fight against [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s Decepticon forces, in what might possibly have been an inter-universe battle. {{storylink|3D Battle-Card Game#Energon Wars expansion|Energon Wars Expansion Set}}

===''Transformers Legends''===
Following a Decepticon attack on [[New York City]], '''Trailcutter''' joined [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]]'s team of infiltrators on a hunt for Decepticons. They were thwarted by three of the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]]. {{storylink|War Dawn (Legends)|War Dawn}}

'''Trailblazer''' was part of [[Drift (G1)|Drift]]'s team which had to speed a vital component to a power station to prevent it from exploding. They made it, despite interference from [[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]] and [[Wildrider (G1)|Wildrider]]. {{storylink|Rushdown Road}} After [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike]]'s mind was placed inside [[Autobot X (G1)|Autobot X]] and the trauma caused Spike to turn against the Autobots, Trailcutter and Brawn were forced to fight both him and the Decepticons. Fortunately Spike eventually came to his senses and helped them battle Skywarp and Thrust. {{storylink|Autobot X (Legends)|Autobot X}} When Spike had the genius idea of holding a charity race, [[Bluestreak (G1)|Silverstreak]] and Trailcutter talked the other Autobots into it. Unfortunately the Constructicons zapped them all with the [[Transfixatron]] during the race, and the Autobots, now stuck in vehicle mode, had to hold the Decepticons off long enough for their scientists to reverse the effects. {{storylink|Autobot Run}}

===''Transformers: Battle Tactics''===
[[File:BattleTacticsTrailcutter.jpg|thumb|400px|I'm exclusive to Facebook users, folks!]]
'''Trailcutter''' participated in battles against a variety of opponents, both Autobots and Decepticons. Sometimes there were many of him! He was a promotional Uncommon character that could be recruited by connecting to Facebook. {{storylink|Transformers: Battle Tactics}}
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===''Transformers: Earth Wars''===
[[File:Trailbreaker EarthWars.jpg|right|thumb|400px]]

Trailbreaker is every inch the redoubtable Autobot warrior but suffers from severe self-doubt and a general low opinion of his own abilities. He's highly conscious of the fact that not only is he one of the slowest Autobots in his bulky vehicle mode, he's also one of the least fuel-efficient. He covers up his insecurities with a jaunty and jokey demeanor that can lighten the darkest mood (or hour).
The fact is, other Autobots respect Trailbreaker's good humor, bravery and would kill (not literally) for his personal forcefield and gripping Magnawheels. {{storylink|Transformers: Earth Wars|Trailbreaker Bio}}

{{charstubgame|{{storylink|Transformers: Earth Wars}}}}

*'''Class''': Gunner
*'''Lowest Star Rating:''' 2 stars
*'''Ability: Reflective Force Field''' - For seconds, you generate a Force Field. Within its range, you and your allies reflect a percentage of the damage received back to your enemies.

[http://wiki.transformersearthwars.com/character:trailbreaker Trailbreaker at Transformers: Earth Wars Wiki]
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===''Transformers Roleplaying Game''===
Trailbreaker was an Autobot. {{storylink|Transformers Roleplaying Game Core Rulebook|Roleplaying Game Core Rulebook}}

==Toys==
{{main|Trailbreaker (G1)/toys}}

==Merchandise==
{{main|Trailbreaker (G1)/toys#Merchandise}}

==Notes==
[[File:Trailbreaker-Alex Milne-MTMTE.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4]]
*Trailbreaker had the preliminary name of "Guzzle".<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20071230210811/http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=41003 Post on The Allspark Forums by Jim Sorenson, 25 December 2007]</ref> Coincidentally (?), the figure that actually ended up being named [[Guzzle (G1)|Guzzle]] had the same French-Canadian name as Trailbreaker, "Glouton".
*Like many of the early Generation 1 Transformers, Trailbreaker's toy and [[character model|animation model]] differ a lot, especially as far as the head design is concerned. In recent years, both comic book artists and toy designers typically aim for an amalgamation of both designs, usually with the toy's helmet and the animation model's face. However, no-one can seem to agree whether his radar scanner is supposed to be directly attached to the back of the head (as it was on the toy) or attached to the back of the robot. The [[2005 IDW continuity|2005-2018 IDW comics]] originally had it attached to a massive "[[kibble]]"-like backpack before switching to a design more akin to the original animation model with ''[[The Transformers: All Hail Megatron|All Hail Megatron]]''. Meanwhile, had the ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' [[Swindle (G1)#Alternators|Jeep Wrangler mold]] been released as Trailbreaker like originally intended, he would have lacked the scanner entirely.
*In storyboards for ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'', Trailbreaker's dead body is seen at the end of the Autobot City battle. However, this didn't make it into the final film. In an early draft script, Trailbreaker survives the two initial attacks on Autobot City and is part of a guerrilla unit led by Blaster on Earth.
*The highly Sunbow-influenced series ''Transformers/Ghostbusters'' did a take on what a "season 1" Cybertronian-style hovercar alt-mode would look like for Trailbreaker ([[#Transformers/Ghostbusters|see above]]).
*Originally, [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] was going to be used in ''[[Spotlight: Kup]]'', but after re-looking at Trailbreaker's [[Tech Spec]] and [[bio]], [[Nick Roche]] decided that his power and cheery personality would work better. "It's nice to use a character who gets no love."<ref name="rochekup">[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIkqheta3GE Nick Roche interview with Moonbase Two]</ref>

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Trailbreaker''' (トレイルブレイカー ''Toreirubureikā''), '''Trailcutter''' (トレイルカッター ''Toreirukattā'')
*''Czech:'' '''Rezerva'''
*''French:'' '''Glouton''' (Canada, "Glutton")
*''Hebrew:'' '''Shovér Kronot''' (שובר קרונות, "Trailer Breaker")
*''Hungarian:'' '''Ösvényvágó''' ("Trailcutter")
*''Italian:'' '''Tuono''' ("Thunder")
*''Mandarin:'' '''Kāilù Xiānfēng''' (China, 开路先锋, "Trailbreaker")
*''Portuguese:'' '''Pica-Trilhos''' (Portugal comic), '''Abre-alas''' (Brazil comic)
*''Russian:'' '''Sledopyt''' (Следопыт, "Tracker")

==References==
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[[Category:Beast Wars: Uprising Autobots]]
[[Category:Children of Primus]]
[[Category:Cloud Autobots]]
[[Category:Combiners]]
[[Category:Decoys]]
[[Category:Defense specialists]]
[[Category:Dimension hoppers]]
[[Category:Dreamwave Generation 1 Autobots]]
[[Category:Earth Wars Autobots]]
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[[Category:Lost Light crew]]
[[Category:Marvel Generation 1 Autobots]]
[[Category:Regeneration One Autobots]]
[[Category:Second Cybertron Alliance]]
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Legacy of Hope

2026-01-07T02:03:44Z

Abates: /* Synopsis */

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'''Everyone goes to Cybertron where a familiar evil from Optimus's past is gathering power.'''

==Synopsis==
[[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]: [[Hot Rod (ES)|Hot Rod]] arrives via [[Space bridge|Spacebridge]] carrying the [[Emberstone]], and is followed by [[Robby Malto|Robby]] and [[Mo Malto]] moments later. Hot Rod simply transforms and drives away, and Mo has to stop Robby's futile attempt at pursuit, insisting they need to go back and get backup. Menacing shapes close in on the two kids, forcing them to seek a hiding place, but the shelter they find is soon ripped away.

The rest of the Malto family along with [[Bumblebee (ES)|Bumblebee]] and [[Megatron (ES)|Megatron]] also arrive, and [[Alex Malto|Alex]] identifies their landing point as [[Praxus]], though the city appears to be in ruins. They head for a nearby secret [[Autobot]] base which [[Bumblebee (ES)|Bumblebee]] knows will have a [[Spark]] scanner. While they walk, [[Thrash (ES)|Thrash]] spots footprints and thinks they should follow the tracks, leading to an argument with Twitch which he acquiesces on. They eventually reach the base, but initial scans show no spark signatures in the city. As scans continue, Thrash attempts to use an Autobot secure channel to contact Optimus, but inadvertently attracts a horde of [[Sparkless]] to the building, forcing the group to fight until the scan can finish. Finally Bumblebee manages to lure the horde outside before the scan finishes, giving the team two possible leads: a dead zone where the scan has been blocked, and the location of two [[Decepticon]]s. Twitch and Thrash break into an argument over which of the two options is the best to pursue. It becomes more heated when Twitch realizes Thrash has told the others about her issue and ends with the pair deciding to pursue their chosen leads.

[[Hashtag (ES)|Hashtag]], Alex, Bumblebee and [[Nightshade (ES)|Nightshade]] join Twitch in heading towards the scan void and she grouses about her brother. Meanwhile Megatron, [[Dot Malto|Dot]] and [[Jawbreaker (ES)|Jawbreaker]] accompany Thrash to the location of the two Decepticons where Thrash scouts ahead to find there are actually three Transformers there. Twitch finds only a huge hole in the ground and she realizes she's led them to absolutely nothing and Thrash was right. The others try to cheer her up, but they're interrupted by the arrival of Decepticons, specifically [[Shockwave (ES)|Shockwave]]'s group returned from Earth, and a fight ensues.

The other group find the three Decepticons have gone, but are soon under attack by a group of identical bots — [[Mirage (ES)|Mirage]] and his holographic clones, and their attempts to convince the Autobot that they're on the same side fall on deactivated audio sensors. When Thrash gets comms from Twitch asking for help, his team is busy fighting Mirage to go help. Dot suddenly spots human footprints on the ground and follows them to a nearby building where she finds Robby and Mo in [[exosuit]]s, getting the two kids to convince Mirage to stop fighting. Robby and Mo quickly fill the others in on what Hot Rod's done before wondering where everyone else is, causing Thrash to remember Twitch's earlier distress call. Meanwhile Twitch's team has reached an impasse with the Decepticons, but then a huge structure rises from the ground — Liege Maximo's fortress.

Optimus Prime is hauled in chains to a pod which opens revealing [[Liege Maximo]]. Optimus is shocked as he and the other Primes had long ago combined forces to trap Maximo in a void. Maximo reveals he's tracked down and destroyed the other Primes, wielding the [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|Star Saber]] as proof of [[Prima]]'s death. Maximo intends to use the power he's accumulated to take control of worlds and transform them into energon, and to this end he wants the [[Matrix of Leadership]] so he can command other life forms. He begins cutting into Optimus's chest, however the fortress has been invaded by Mirage, who is able to rescue Optimus, [[Elita-1 (ES)|Elita-1]] and [[Wheeljack (ES)|Wheeljack]], but Maximo prevents them from rescuing [[Prowl (ES)|Prowl]] and they're forced to leave without their comrade.

Thrash's group joins Twitch's team in the battle against the 'Cons, and they're soon also joined by Optimus Prime's group emerging from Maximo's fortress. Even with reinforcements, they're forced to flee when the 'Cons take Dot, Alex and Thrash hostage. The trio are taken before an unimpressed Maximo.

Mirage takes the others to [[Mirage's Garage]], an old converted Decepticon base. The Autobots observe they feel like they're low on energon, and Nightshade works out that it's as if Cybertron itself is leeching power from them — Mirage confirms that that's why everyone's joined "Team Liege". With few other options, they come up with a plan to get an energon refinery working again, and with the Cybertronians out of action bar Mirage, the task is assigned to the Terrans. Once they leave, Megatron realizes Maximo will need to take the Emberstone and [[Enigma of Combination]] to the [[Well of All Sparks|Well of Sparks]]. Optimus wants to go scout the area, but Megatron points out he needs to keep the Matrix safe, so instead Bumblebee heads out with Megatron and Elita-1. A short time later, Mo realizes Robby has gone — he's joined the trio, with Bumblebee reluctantly agreeing to let him tag along.

Twitch's team reaches the energon refinery where Nightshade effects repairs with the help of Wheeljack via comms. While this is happening, the rest of the team is jumped by [[Scorponok (ES)|Scorponok]] but keep him busy until Nightshade completes the fix. Scorponok tries to claim the energon in Liege Maximo's name, leading to him chasing the Terrans until Jawbreaker renders him unconscious. The group heads out into a sandstorm and begin making their way back to the garage.

Liege Maximo arrives at the Well of Sparks with Hot Rod and [[Soundwave (ES)|Soundwave]]. Bumblebee's group observes from a distance as Maximo pulls out the Enigma and Emberstone. Scorponok arrives and reports on events at the refinery, believing Twitch's team will have perished in the sandstorm. The group has, in fact, arrived back at the garage minus Twitch, who is lost in the sandstorm. At the Well, Robby sees his opportunity and goes for the Emberstone, only to be struck down by Maximo. The Enigma and Emberstone combine over the Well, producing a column of light and creating huge metal tendrils from the surface of Cybertron which spread to other nearby planets. Liege Maximo claims victory and demands to know where Optimus and the Matrix of Leadership are. When the team refuses to tell him, Liege pulls a staff from his chest and uses it to probe Robby's mind and discover the location of Mirage's Garage.

Still lost in the sandstorm, Twitch is knocked out by a piece of flying debris and finds herself in the presence of [[Quintus Prime]]. She berates him for not being there for her and insists he go talk to someone more worthy, but he instead leaves her with some words of inspiration. In the garage, Optimus is fading fast when Twitch arrives with the energon. Her warning about the incoming Decepticons allows them to ambush the 'Cons. This only gives them a small advantage, and Optimus's attempts to reason with Hot Rod don't go well. Finally Liege himself turns up and, pointing the [[Requiem Blaster (Thirteen)|Requiem Blaster]] at Optimus, demands the Matrix. Optimus reluctantly opens his chest to reveal an empty cavity. Maximo quickly works out that the missing Twitch has the Matrix and orders Hot Rod to go find her, shrugging off his request for energon. Hot Rod reacts by turning on Maximo.

Twitch arrives at Maximo's fortress with the energon from the refinery and frees everyone. Thrash is taken aback when Twitch is supportive of him, and heads off with Elita and Prowl to help Optimus. Twitch and the rest of the group stay to search as Twitch has sensed via the Matrix that someone is in great pain.

At the garage, Maximo beats Optimus severely until [[Swindle (ES)|Swindle]] suggests maybe they go look for Twitch, however Maximo is sure she'll turn up to help her family.

Twitch's group stumbles on the source of the feelings of pain she's been experiencing — the [[AllSpark]]! They're joined by Breakdown, but soon realize that the AllSpark is draining the energon out of everything and one due to a [[Liegian Darts|Liegian Dart]] stuck in the side of it. As a human, Robby is immune to the AllSpark's power and pulls the dart from it.

Liege Maximo terminates Optimus with the Star Saber, a state of affairs that lasts all of a second before Optimus is brought back online by the power of the AllSpark. The Decepticons, realizing Maximo has been lying to them about the AllSpark's destruction, turn on the Prime and blast him through the roof before leaving. Liege is still defiant before the Autobot/Malto forces, using the Star Saber to call in another horde of Sparkless. The team is able to take out the Sparkless, leaving just Maximo again, but he produces the [[Blades of Time]], intending to use them to turn Breakdown back to his side. Bumblebee throws himself in front of Breakdown and the blades regress him to an earlier form. Maximo then unleashes the Blades on Megatron while fighting Optimus, before terminating the former Decepticon leader with the Requiem Blaster. Maximo demands the Matrix and Twitch throws it to him before the Terrans all attack the evil Prime. Quickly realizing that the horns are his weak point, they manage to slice said horns off, resulting in Liege Maximo disappearing into a singularity.

The mechanical tendrils connecting the nearby worlds retract, freeing them. Optimus picks up the discarded Matrix and returns it to his chest, while Robby turns down Hot Rod's offer of the Emberstone back. They take Megatron's body to the AllSpark, which mends the hole in his chest however he is still dead. Jawbreaker announces he's staying on Cybertron for a while, and the family shares a hug, right as Megatron returns to life. Unfortunately the Blades of Time have regressed him to his hostile wartime self, and he immediately leaves through the Spacebridge. Twitch believes they can turn Megatron back to the side of good, and the team rolls out to go find him.

==Featured characters==
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*[[Hot Rod (ES)|Hot Rod]] (1)
*[[Bumblebee (ES)|Bumblebee]] (11)
*[[Mirage (ES)|Mirage]] (14)
*[[Optimus Prime (ES)|Optimus Prime]] (25)
*[[Prowl (ES)|Prowl]] (28)
*[[Elita-1 (ES)|Elita-1]] (29)
*[[Wheeljack (ES)|Wheeljack]] (30)

|c2=
*[[Megatron (ES)|Megatron]] (12)
*[[Laserbeak (ES)|Laserbeak]] (15)
*[[Octopunch (ES)|Octopunch]] (16)
*[[Skullcruncher (ES)|Skullcruncher]] (17)
*[[Shrapnel (ES)|Shrapnel]] (18)
*[[Frenzy (ES)|Frenzy]] (19)
*[[Ravage (ES)|Ravage]] (20)
*[[Swindle (ES)|Swindle]] (21)
*[[Soundwave (ES)|Soundwave]] (22)
*[[Skywarp (ES)|Skywarp]] (23)
*[[Nova Storm (ES)|Nova Storm]] (24)
*[[Breakdown (ES)|Breakdown]] (26)
*[[Shockwave (ES)|Shockwave]] (27)
*[[Hardtop (ES)|Hardtop]] (31)
*[[Bombshell (ES)|Bombshell]] (33)
*[[Scorponok (ES)|Scorponok]] (34)

|c3=
*[[Robby Malto]] (2)
*[[Mo Malto]] (3)
*[[Dot Malto]] (4)
*[[Alex Malto]] (6)

|h4=[[Terran]]s||c4=
*[[Thrash (ES)|Thrash]] (5)
*[[Jawbreaker (ES)|Jawbreaker]] (7)
*[[Twitch]] (8)
*[[Hashtag (ES)|Hashtag]] (9)
*[[Nightshade (ES)|Nightshade]] (10)

|h5=Others||c5=
*[[Sparkless]] (13)
*[[Liege Maximo]] (32)
*[[Quintus Prime]] (35)
}}

==Quotes==
"There's one in our secret base not far from here."<br />
"The one in the polonium-packing district?"<br />
"Okay, make that a not-so-secret base."
:—'''Bumblebee''' and '''Megatron'''

"I can't believe I finally get to Cybertron and the planet tries to kill me."
:—'''Jawbreaker'''

"We have already won, because I dare to do what Optimus never had the courage to: show the universe our strength and have all kneel before us"
:—'''Liege Maximo'''

"You are not alone. Lifeforms gifted with reason eventually question themselves. Those who never do are dangerous. Twitch, what makes any of us strong is believing we can be."
:—'''Quintus Prime'''

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
*Twitch is continuing her issues from the previous episode of feeling useless because she was out of action during the battle against the [[Quintesson]]s.

===Transformers references===
*The concept of Sparkless zombie-like Transformers originates in the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron Trilogy (cartoon)|''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' cartoon]].
*Liege Maximo originates from the [[Transformers: Generation 2 (Marvel)|''Generation 2'' Marvel comics]].

===Real-world references===
*

===Errors===
*

===Trivia===
*

===Foreign localization===

[[Category:EarthSpark episodes]]

Legacy of Hope

2026-01-07T01:42:57Z

Abates: /* Notes */

Legacy of Hope

2026-01-07T01:37:30Z

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Hometown Heroes

2026-01-05T20:27:21Z

Abates: /* Trivia */ I don't think that's the right word there.

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|image=EarthSpark-HometownHeroes-Poster.jpg
|caption=
|prev=Judgment Day, Part 2
|next= Legacy of Hope
|title="Hometown Heroes"
|season=4
|season ep=1
|airdate=[[December 5]], [[2025]] (Paramount+)<br>TBA (Nickelodeon)
|production company=[[Hasbro Entertainment]]<br />[[Nickelodeon]]
|writers=[[Ian Busch]]<br />[[Greg Weisman]]
|animation studio=[[88 Pictures]]
|directors=[[Vinton Heuck|Vinton T. Heuck]]<br />[[Scooter Tidwell]]
|video=
|videosite=
}}

'''Robby's troubles with a couple of other kids leads to the return of Mandroid.'''

==Synopsis==
[[Hashtag (ES)|Hashtag]] speeds through [[Witwicky (town)|Witwicky]] towing [[Robby Malto]] who is using an energy shield like a surf board. The pair zoom through a street market, resulting in Robbie totaling a hot dog stand, before Hashtag uses a cable to slingshot him the remaining distance to [[Witwicky Charter|school]]. Despite their dramatic race, [[Mo Malto|Mo]] has arrived first via bus, though Robbie insists it was a tie. After school, [[Twitch]] drops Robbie off at home before disappearing for a training session with [[Thrash (ES)|Thrash]]. Hashtag announces she's launched a Team Terran page on Instavidpic however a fight ensues over whose video is going to be first to be posted, leading to Robby's parents seeing Hashtag's video of the surfing incident. They give him a telling off and restrict him to taking the bus, which he objects to as he is a "big time hero" and shouldn't have to take the "baby bus".

Twitch and [[Thrash (ES)|Thrash]] are training while cyber-synced, however they're shot down by the simulated [[Quintesson]]s. Twitch blames herself for the loss, upset she was out of action during the actual battle against the Quintessons, and resets the simulation to try again. As another school day ends, [[Olive Croft|Olive]] and [[Hoagie]] are nearby when Olive gets a message on her cellphone revealing that the Maltos are to blame for her troubles. She and Hoagie are soon giving Robby a ride in Hoagie's heavily customized car Mary Lou, however as the ride goes on, Robby realises the pair aren't the friends they initially presented themselves as. Hoagie reveals the sub shop he worked at had to close after it was cut off from the world by the [[Chaos Dome]] and Olive has her own loss she's blaming the Maltos for. The pair leave Robbie by the side of the road with the promise they'll see him again.

The pair continue to stalk Robbie over the next few days, destroying his skateboard and following the school bus he's riding. Mo eventually finds Robbie hiding behind the school sign and he explains what's happening as they walk home. They soon run into Olive and Hoagie who confront the pair with their grievances. When Hoagie attacks Robbie, he activates his [[cyber-sleeve]] and whacks a nearby lamp post, dropping it on Hoagie's car. This is the scene [[Jon Schloder|Schloder]] finds as he emerges from a nearby house and with the kids giving conflicting stories, Schloder sides with Olive, whom he reveals is the daughter of his sister, the late [[Karen Croft|Agent Croft]]. Schloder drags the two Malto kids back to the Malto farm where Dot and Alex tell Robby off. When he refuses to apologize, they ground him.

Olive and Hoagie depart to go "study", and Mo, who is extremely suspicious of the pair, enlists Thrash to hep trail them. The pair indeed suspiciously head to the disguised entrance to the Autobot base, where Olive uses her mother's old keycard to gain access. As Mo and Thrash follow Olive and Hoagie inside, Twitch contacts Thrash to get him to do more training, but he blows her off, telling Mo he wants to take point more because he thinks Twitch is under too much pressure. Olive continues getting instructions from her mysterious contact whom she believes might be her mother, but the instructions instead lead them to the disembodied head of [[Mandroid]], who claims that the Maltos banished Agent Croft to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] and promises to help Olive get her back. The pair release Mandroid who heads to [[Starscream (ES)|Starscream]]'s cell and takes control of the [[Decepticon]]. The other Maltobots arrive to join Mo and Thrash just as Mandroid/Starscream is leaving — Hashtag wants to call in help, but Twitch decides they need to go after Mandroid as a priority.

Robbie is dozing under a book when he's woken by his cyber-sleeve. Keen to go help the others, he's stopped by his parents who insist he go back to studying.

The rest of the Maltos emerge from the Autobot base to see Mandroid/Starscream, whom Thrash dubs "Man-Scream", land in the [[Dino-Mite Quarry|quarry]] and plant the "omega class plasma fusion combustion charge" he's carrying, which he reveals will trigger a fault line and destroy the base. [[Nightshade (ES)|Nightshade]] is confused as there's no fault line there, and Mo wonders where Olive and Hoagie have gone. The pair in question are currently climbing the ruined [[Spacebridge]] and when they reach the top Olive dumps the contents of a vial onto the structure, resulting in a crystal growth that begins to grow and complete the circle. At the quarry, Twitch has [[Jawbreaker (ES)|Jawbreaker]] act as bait so she can drop boulders onto Man-Scream. The others think they should call in backup, but Twitch is insistent on trying to handle the situation herself. This does not go well. With the Spacebridge complete, Olive fires it up, ending the battle in the quarry as Man-Scream flies off. Twitch realizes, as the bomb fails to explode, that they've been drawn into a diversion so Mandroid's actual plan can provide him with a way to access Cybertron. As the others head off to confront Mandroid, Twitch finally relents and contacts [[Optimus Prime (ES)|Optimus]] for help.

Robby takes his parents outside and shows them the distant activated Spacebridge to convince them the others need his help. Mandroid joins Olive and Hoagie by the Spacebridge, only to shock the pair by revealing that he's been lying to them. As he attempts to head into the portal, he's prevented by the arrival of Twitch, Thrash, Nightshade and Mo, who delay him until the rest of the Maltos turn up with the [[Autobot]]s led by [[Elita-1 (ES)|Elita-1]]. A dark shape appears through the Spacebridge portal, which Olive assumes is her mother, but instead it's [[Hot Rod (ES)|Hot Rod]] who emerges and decks Man-Scream with a punch. Olive doesn't take the news that there aren't any humans on Cybertron well, accusing Hot Rod of lying, and Mo as well when Mo tries to tell her that her mother died. Optimus and [[Megatron (ES)|Megatron]] arrive in time for Man-Scream to unleash an army of Arachnamechs on the newcomers. Megatron engages Man-Scream directly, leading to one of Starscream's missiles falling onto the distant highway and resulting in Robby having to do a quick Prime Power rescue. As the battle continues, Arachnamechs begin swarming up the mountain towards the Spacebridge, and Optimus deploys his trailer cannon to open fire on the critters. Mo and Hot Rod fight the creatures atop the mountain, with the latter noting the power Mo is using, which she explains is a gift from [[Quintus Prime]]. Man-Scream manages to grab Twitch and is about to terminate her when Megatron grabs Mandroid and forcibly removes him from Starscream, ending the battle as the Arachnamechs fall dead.

Optimus greets Hot Rod in the post-battle celebration, but the newly arrived Autobot has the news that Cybertron is in danger. [[Prowl (ES)|Prowl]] guesses the group of Decepticons have arrived there in his ship, and Hot Rod asks for Prime's help. Robby and his parents arrive to the news that the Autobots are returning to Cybertron, a fact Bumblebee is particularly enthusiastic about, at least until Optimus orders him to stay on [[Earth]]. The Maltos are similarly celebrating until Alex realizes maybe they should let the Autobots make sure it's safe first. The Maltos watch the Autobots depart through the Spacebridge portal, but Robby is especially upset he can't go, asserting to his parents that he's capable. Dot insists he's still grounded, but Olive and Hoagie speak up in his defense. Schloder explains about Agent Croft's death and Olive mourns her lost mother, apologizing for hassling Robby.

Megatron returns Mandroid and Starscream to their cells, with both of them swearing revenge. Robby and Mo are left to guard the Spacebridge while Bumblebee and the rest of the Maltos head home. Jawbreaker observes that Twitch is unhappy. They arrive back at the farm where Megatron is waiting, and the former Decepticon leader observes he prefers his life on Earth to the one he had on Cybertron. Meanwhile Mo and Robby are having a heart-to-heart whether they need their powers to be heroes when Hot Rod emerges from the Spacebridge and demands they turn over their cyber-sleeves. The kids fight back, with the vibes reaching the other Maltos over their emotional link. Hot Rod manages to pin Robby and starts removing his sleeve, but Mo protests and tells him to take hers instead. Hot Rod complies, but the process of removing Mo's sleeve also causes Robby's to disappear. Hot Rod apologizes before disappearing through the Spacebridge with the reconstituted [[Emberstone]]. Robby, outraged that Mo has cost both of them their sleeves, runs through the Spacebridge in pursuit and Mo is forced to follow. The other Maltos, Megatron and Bee arrive and, quickly surmising something has happened, head through the portal as well.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Wheeljack (ES)|Wheeljack]] (15)
*[[Bumblebee (ES)|Bumblebee]] (16)
*[[Prowl (ES)|Prowl]] (17)
*[[Elita-1 (ES)|Elita-1]] (18)
*[[Hot Rod (ES)|Hot Rod]] (19)
*[[Optimus Prime (ES)|Optimus Prime]] (20)

|c2=
*[[Starscream (ES)|Starscream]] (14)
*[[Megatron (ES)|Megatron]] (21)

|c3=
*[[Robby Malto]] (2)
*[[Mo Malto]] (3)
*[[Dot Malto]] (4)
*[[Alex Malto]] (5)
*[[Olive Croft]] (10)
*[[Hoagie]] (11)
*[[Jon Schloder]] (12)

|h4=[[Terran]]s||c4=
*[[Hashtag (ES)|Hashtag]] (1)
*[[Twitch]] (6)
*[[Nightshade (ES)|Nightshade]] (7)
*[[Jawbreaker (ES)|Jawbreaker]] (8)
*[[Thrash (ES)|Thrash]] (9)

|h5=Others||c5=
*[[Mandroid]] (13)
*[[Arachnamech]]s (22)
}}

==Quotes==
"Quintesson rockets!"<br />
"I know! I see them!"<br />
"Oh, I wasn't alerting you, actually. I was listing things I hate. Quintesson rockets. Rampaging bears. Judgmental goats."
:—'''Thrash''' and '''Twitch''' training.

"Ah! Help me! He's controlling me!"<br />
"This is not about control, this is about destruction of all Cybertronians and their allies."
:—'''Starscream''' and '''Mandroid'''

"Never fear, Starscream, we will liberate you. Even if we must destroy you to do it."
:—'''Megatron'''

"You were kidding about destroying him, right?"<br />
"Largely."
:—'''Twitch''' and '''Megatron'''

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
*A pedestrian during Robbie's street surfing incident has a [[Mole Bot]] as seen in "[[Attack of the Drive-In Movie]]" as a pet.
*Witwicky Charter was first seen in "[[Friends and Family]]".
*Agent Croft met her end in "[[The Last Hope, Part 1]]" while the Spacebridge was shattered in the "[[The Last Hope, Part 2]]" when Mandroid's first plan failed. Mandroid appeared to have died in that episode, but turns out the Autobots have been keeping him in a cell all this time.
*Twitch spends the episode upset because during "[[Judgment Day, Part 2]]", she was injured and unable to take part in the battle against the Quintessons.

===Transformers references===
*Hot Rod's depiction in EarthSpark of being a reluctant antagonist who is at odds with his Optimus Prime seems to evoke a lot of [[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|Energon]] [[Rodimus (Energon)|Rodimus]], in addition to having a very deep voice.

===Real-world references===
*Mo labels Robby as "maarte", a Tagalog word for someone who's an overly dramatic diva.

===Errors===
*A major retcon happens in the form of Olive. Last time we saw Schloder in "[[The Truth Is Out There]]" he had said he wished to start a family of his own, that line of dialogue seems to be at odds now with the sudden reveal he had a niece all along. The fact Croft even had a daughter really does also seem rather odd as nothing ever suggested she herself was a mother at any point we saw her back in Season 1.

===Trivia===
*The entire events of these final two specials are only made possible because Schloder simply could not be more honest with Olive on what actually happened to her mother.

===Foreign localization===

[[Category:EarthSpark episodes]]

Hometown Heroes

2026-01-05T04:06:30Z

Abates: /* Synopsis */

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|caption=
|prev=Judgment Day, Part 2
|next= Legacy of Hope
|title="Hometown Heroes"
|season=4
|season ep=1
|airdate=[[December 5]], [[2025]] (Paramount+)<br>TBA (Nickelodeon)
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}}

'''Robby's troubles with a couple of other kids leads to the return of Mandroid.'''

==Synopsis==
[[Hashtag (ES)|Hashtag]] speeds through [[Witwicky (town)|Witwicky]] towing [[Robby Malto]] who is using an energy shield like a surf board. The pair zoom through a street market, resulting in Robbie totaling a hot dog stand, before Hashtag uses a cable to slingshot him the remaining distance to [[Witwicky Charter|school]]. Despite their dramatic race, [[Mo Malto|Mo]] has arrived first via bus, though Robbie insists it was a tie. After school, [[Twitch]] drops Robbie off at home before disappearing for a training session with [[Thrash (ES)|Thrash]]. Hashtag announces she's launched a Team Terran page on Instavidpic however a fight ensues over whose video is going to be first to be posted, leading to Robby's parents seeing Hashtag's video of the surfing incident. They give him a telling off and restrict him to taking the bus, which he objects to as he is a "big time hero" and shouldn't have to take the "baby bus".

Twitch and [[Thrash (ES)|Thrash]] are training while cyber-synced, however they're shot down by the simulated [[Quintesson]]s. Twitch blames herself for the loss, upset she was out of action during the actual battle against the Quintessons, and resets the simulation to try again. As another school day ends, [[Olive Croft|Olive]] and [[Hoagie]] are nearby when Olive gets a message on her cellphone revealing that the Maltos are to blame for her troubles. She and Hoagie are soon giving Robby a ride in Hoagie's heavily customized car Mary Lou, however as the ride goes on, Robby realises the pair aren't the friends they initially presented themselves as. Hoagie reveals the sub shop he worked at had to close after it was cut off from the world by the [[Chaos Dome]] and Olive has her own loss she's blaming the Maltos for. The pair leave Robbie by the side of the road with the promise they'll see him again.

The pair continue to stalk Robbie over the next few days, destroying his skateboard and following the school bus he's riding. Mo eventually finds Robbie hiding behind the school sign and he explains what's happening as they walk home. They soon run into Olive and Hoagie who confront the pair with their grievances. When Hoagie attacks Robbie, he activates his [[cyber-sleeve]] and whacks a nearby lamp post, dropping it on Hoagie's car. This is the scene [[Jon Schloder|Schloder]] finds as he emerges from a nearby house and with the kids giving conflicting stories, Schloder sides with Olive, whom he reveals is the daughter of his sister, the late [[Karen Croft|Agent Croft]]. Schloder drags the two Malto kids back to the Malto farm where Dot and Alex tell Robby off. When he refuses to apologize, they ground him.

Olive and Hoagie depart to go "study", and Mo, who is extremely suspicious of the pair, enlists Thrash to hep trail them. The pair indeed suspiciously head to the disguised entrance to the Autobot base, where Olive uses her mother's old keycard to gain access. As Mo and Thrash follow Olive and Hoagie inside, Twitch contacts Thrash to get him to do more training, but he blows her off, telling Mo he wants to take point more because he thinks Twitch is under too much pressure. Olive continues getting instructions from her mysterious contact whom she believes might be her mother, but the instructions instead lead them to the disembodied head of [[Mandroid]], who claims that the Maltos banished Agent Croft to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] and promises to help Olive get her back. The pair release Mandroid who heads to [[Starscream (ES)|Starscream]]'s cell and takes control of the [[Decepticon]]. The other Maltobots arrive to join Mo and Thrash just as Mandroid/Starscream is leaving — Hashtag wants to call in help, but Twitch decides they need to go after Mandroid as a priority.

Robbie is dozing under a book when he's woken by his cyber-sleeve. Keen to go help the others, he's stopped by his parents who insist he go back to studying.

The rest of the Maltos emerge from the Autobot base to see Mandroid/Starscream, whom Thrash dubs "Man-Scream", land in the [[Dino-Mite Quarry|quarry]] and plant the "omega class plasma fusion combustion charge" he's carrying, which he reveals will trigger a fault line and destroy the base. [[Nightshade (ES)|Nightshade]] is confused as there's no fault line there, and Mo wonders where Olive and Hoagie have gone. The pair in question are currently climbing the ruined [[Spacebridge]] and when they reach the top Olive dumps the contents of a vial onto the structure, resulting in a crystal growth that begins to grow and complete the circle. At the quarry, Twitch has [[Jawbreaker (ES)|Jawbreaker]] act as bait so she can drop boulders onto Man-Scream. The others think they should call in backup, but Twitch is insistent on trying to handle the situation herself. This does not go well. With the Spacebridge complete, Olive fires it up, ending the battle in the quarry as Man-Scream flies off. Twitch realizes, as the bomb fails to explode, that they've been drawn into a diversion so Mandroid's actual plan can provide him with a way to access Cybertron. As the others head off to confront Mandroid, Twitch finally relents and contacts [[Optimus Prime (ES)|Optimus]] for help.

Robby takes his parents outside and shows them the distant activated Spacebridge to convince them the others need his help. Mandroid joins Olive and Hoagie by the Spacebridge, only to shock the pair by revealing that he's been lying to them. As he attempts to head into the portal, he's prevented by the arrival of Twitch, Thrash, Nightshade and Mo, who delay him until the rest of the Maltos turn up with the [[Autobot]]s led by [[Elita-1 (ES)|Elita-1]]. A dark shape appears through the Spacebridge portal, which Olive assumes is her mother, but instead it's [[Hot Rod (ES)|Hot Rod]] who emerges and decks Man-Scream with a punch. Olive doesn't take the news that there aren't any humans on Cybertron well, accusing Hot Rod of lying, and Mo as well when Mo tries to tell her that her mother died. Optimus and [[Megatron (ES)|Megatron]] arrive in time for Man-Scream to unleash an army of Arachnamechs on the newcomers. Megatron engages Man-Scream directly, leading to one of Starscream's missiles falling onto the distant highway and resulting in Robby having to do a quick Prime Power rescue. As the battle continues, Arachnamechs begin swarming up the mountain towards the Spacebridge, and Optimus deploys his trailer cannon to open fire on the critters. Mo and Hot Rod fight the creatures atop the mountain, with the latter noting the power Mo is using, which she explains is a gift from [[Quintus Prime]]. Man-Scream manages to grab Twitch and is about to terminate her when Megatron grabs Mandroid and forcibly removes him from Starscream, ending the battle as the Arachnamechs fall dead.

Optimus greets Hot Rod in the post-battle celebration, but the newly arrived Autobot has the news that Cybertron is in danger. [[Prowl (ES)|Prowl]] guesses the group of Decepticons have arrived there in his ship, and Hot Rod asks for Prime's help. Robby and his parents arrive to the news that the Autobots are returning to Cybertron, a fact Bumblebee is particularly enthusiastic about, at least until Optimus orders him to stay on [[Earth]]. The Maltos are similarly celebrating until Alex realizes maybe they should let the Autobots make sure it's safe first. The Maltos watch the Autobots depart through the Spacebridge portal, but Robby is especially upset he can't go, asserting to his parents that he's capable. Dot insists he's still grounded, but Olive and Hoagie speak up in his defense. Schloder explains about Agent Croft's death and Olive mourns her lost mother, apologizing for hassling Robby.

Megatron returns Mandroid and Starscream to their cells, with both of them swearing revenge. Robby and Mo are left to guard the Spacebridge while Bumblebee and the rest of the Maltos head home. Jawbreaker observes that Twitch is unhappy. They arrive back at the farm where Megatron is waiting, and the former Decepticon leader observes he prefers his life on Earth to the one he had on Cybertron. Meanwhile Mo and Robby are having a heart-to-heart whether they need their powers to be heroes when Hot Rod emerges from the Spacebridge and demands they turn over their cyber-sleeves. The kids fight back, with the vibes reaching the other Maltos over their emotional link. Hot Rod manages to pin Robby and starts removing his sleeve, but Mo protests and tells him to take hers instead. Hot Rod complies, but the process of removing Mo's sleeve also causes Robby's to disappear. Hot Rod apologizes before disappearing through the Spacebridge with the reconstituted [[Emberstone]]. Robby, outraged that Mo has cost both of them their sleeves, runs through the Spacebridge in pursuit and Mo is forced to follow. The other Maltos, Megatron and Bee arrive and, quickly surmising something has happened, head through the portal as well.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Wheeljack (ES)|Wheeljack]] (15)
*[[Bumblebee (ES)|Bumblebee]] (16)
*[[Prowl (ES)|Prowl]] (17)
*[[Elita-1 (ES)|Elita-1]] (18)
*[[Hot Rod (ES)|Hot Rod]] (19)
*[[Optimus Prime (ES)|Optimus Prime]] (20)

|c2=
*[[Starscream (ES)|Starscream]] (14)
*[[Megatron (ES)|Megatron]] (21)

|c3=
*[[Robby Malto]] (2)
*[[Mo Malto]] (3)
*[[Dot Malto]] (4)
*[[Alex Malto]] (5)
*[[Olive Croft]] (10)
*[[Hoagie]] (11)
*[[Jon Schloder]] (12)

|h4=[[Terran]]s||c4=
*[[Hashtag (ES)|Hashtag]] (1)
*[[Twitch]] (6)
*[[Nightshade (ES)|Nightshade]] (7)
*[[Jawbreaker (ES)|Jawbreaker]] (8)
*[[Thrash (ES)|Thrash]] (9)

|h5=Others||c5=
*[[Mandroid]] (13)
*[[Arachnamech]]s (22)
}}

==Quotes==
"Quintesson rockets!"<br />
"I know! I see them!"<br />
"Oh, I wasn't alerting you, actually. I was listing things I hate. Quintesson rockets. Rampaging bears. Judgmental goats."
:—'''Thrash''' and '''Twitch''' training.

"Ah! Help me! He's controlling me!"<br />
"This is not about control, this is about destruction of all Cybertronians and their allies."
:—'''Starscream''' and '''Mandroid'''

"Never fear, Starscream, we will liberate you. Even if we must destroy you to do it."
:—'''Megatron'''

"You were kidding about destroying him, right?"<br />
"Largely."
:—'''Twitch''' and '''Megatron'''

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
*A pedestrian during Robbie's street surfing incident has a [[Mole Bot]] as seen in "[[Attack of the Drive-In Movie]]" as a pet.
*Witwicky Charter was first seen in "[[Friends and Family]]".
*Agent Croft met her end in "[[The Last Hope, Part 1]]" while the Spacebridge was shattered in the "[[The Last Hope, Part 2]]" when Mandroid's first plan failed. Mandroid appeared to have died in that episode, but turns out the Autobots have been keeping him in a cell all this time.
*Twitch spends the episode upset because during "[[Judgment Day, Part 2]]", she was injured and unable to take part in the battle against the Quintessons.

===Transformers references===
*

===Real-world references===
*Mo labels Robby as "maarte", a Tagalog word for someone who's an overly dramatic diva.

===Errors===
*

===Trivia===
*

===Foreign localization===

[[Category:EarthSpark episodes]]

Hometown Heroes

2026-01-05T03:40:36Z

Abates: /* Notes */

Hometown Heroes

2026-01-05T03:30:22Z

Abates: /* Featured characters */

Hometown Heroes

2026-01-05T03:25:23Z

Abates: /* Quotes */

Hometown Heroes

2026-01-05T03:23:50Z

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Talk:Package art/gallery

2025-12-16T19:34:26Z

Abates: /* Deletion or at least HEAVY trimming */

I started on re-gallery-fying this but... seriously. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:57, 23 March 2009 (EDT)

Frankly, I wouldn't bother. With proper category-ing of the art, this should all become redundant anyway. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:42, 30 March 2009 (EDT)

==Uh==
Why are we in the business of displaying every packaging art image, regardless of whether it's actually ''used'' in the wiki? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 04:18, 12 September 2009 (EDT)

==Uploading packing?==
This follows Interrobang's question on displaying the packaging art even if it isn't used in articles. If we ''aren't'' "in the business of displaying every packaging art image", then wouldn't that sort of defeat the purpose of the wiki as a reference site in a way? Asking as I have some of the Henkei packaging art by Tsushima which I REALLY like to upload, and potentially what I don't have. (Alternatively, I could upload them to a Facebook photo album...) --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:48, 19 April 2013 (EDT)

== Page size ==

According to a tool I used, loading this entire page and all the images on it is 2.6MB. It should probably be split up by franchise, or more likely we should just link to [[:Category:Packaging art images]] instead. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:51, 27 October 2013 (EDT)
:I tried several several page size tools and wasn't able to get a result from any of them, but I assume it is now much larger than 2.6MB. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:42, 11 August 2021 (EDT)
::I had noticed it was getting kinda big. It crashed my PC browser about a week ago which wasn't fun. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 20:17, 11 August 2021 (EDT)
::Yeah we should probably split G1 and Generations, as they fill most of the page and have many subheaders.[[User:DDog|DDog]] ([[User talk:DDog|talk]]) 21:05, 11 August 2021 (EDT)
:::I agree splitting out would be a solution, though I have to ask if we even need this page? If people want to see G1 packaging art, for instance, they can go to [[:Category:Generation 1 packaging art|Category:Generation 1 packaging art]] and there's a nicely paged gallery. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 23:49, 12 August 2021 (EDT)
::::Perhaps a better idea would be to remove the galleries and just put <nowiki>{{main|}} or {{see|}}</nowiki> templates in that just direct you to those categories. Perhaps even dividing the G1 packaging art category into specifics would also be a good idea, that way the current organization on this page can be kept and it saves the viewer the trouble of having to go through the huge category galleries just to find the one or two images they're looking for. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 00:04, 13 August 2021 (EDT)

==Necessity==
I'm not really seeing why we need this at all. We already have categories to get the same job done without creating a page massive enough to crash devices. [[User:McBaggins|McBaggins]] ([[User talk:McBaggins|talk]]) 18:47, 16 August 2021 (EDT)
:Agreed. A "gallery" page is effectively just the visual version of a list page, and [[Transformers_Wiki:Policies#We_Hate_Lists]]. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 19:26, 16 August 2021 (EDT)

== Legends Manga Package Art ==

Should I add a section made from the Legends Manga?? -[[User:MahXyme|MahXyme/MahXymal]] ([[User talk:MahXyme|talk]]) 09:49, 5 December 2021 (EST)

==Deletion or at least HEAVY trimming==
Okay, no, really. This page is a monster. We have Categories for this that are nicely sorted. And once again, I don't see why images that are not being used on any other pages are being uploaded. We're not an official art archive. This page needs, at minimum, chainsawing down. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 18:24, 14 December 2025 (EST)
:The actual existence of this page just encourages people to add images to it to complete it. At most we need one representative image from each toyline. Maybe more if the toyline has gone long enough for there to be an art shift. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 20:45, 14 December 2025 (EST)
::Not going to lie this was exactly why I thought it was okay to contribute to the gallery. Is there a reason you're against archiving art? Echoing Lonegamer's [[#Uploading_packing.3F|statement]] from a decade ago, I find this to be a nice resource considering how much of a hub for other information the wiki is. There's not many other places I've found that conveniently compiles package art in one place, especially for newer toylines.<br>As for the "representative image" idea, I think that is something that makes more sense for (and is already done, albeit sparsely) on the main [[package art]] page. The point of a gallery page is to be... well, a gallery. I do think there are benefits for the gallery format as opposed to just linking to the image categories. Chiefly, as it is currently formatted, the gallery is more readably organized than most category pages, being listed alphabetically by just character name with convenient links the the character's page under the image and occasionally with helpful text at quick glance specifying where the art was used. A lot of the categories are at the mercy of how the different uploaders title the images and what if anything is in the description.<br>As for dealing with the page itself, evidently I would like to keep it but I do agree it is currently far too large to load at once. Personally, I would suggest fragmenting it out into toyline/franchise sub pages similar to how [[Commercial]] has sub pages per movie. —[[User:BluJayWarrior|BluJayWarrior]] ([[User talk:BluJayWarrior|talk]]) 19:42, 15 December 2025 (EST)
:::That's completely understandable that you would see this page and want to contribute to it. As an encyclopedia though, our main aim is to present information, not act as an archive. There are other sites that do that, for instance [https://botchthecrab.com/archive]. We started using gallery pages because often a topic needs more images than would logically fit on the article page, however the intention wasn't to assemble a complete collection of packaging art. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 14:34, 16 December 2025 (EST)

Right. Bluntly, I'm giving this until Friday. Looking up the page, there's been almost ''two decades'' of numerous people asking "do we actually need this page" and no-one has ever given a reason to keep it. And as Abates said, it just encourages pointless busywork cluttering up the "Recent changes". Without some VERY compelling reasons to keep it, at the VERY least this page is going to get chopped to a small fraction of its current size, but more likely it'll be deleted altogether. And either way, all images not (meaningfully) used on other pages will be deleted. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 16:22, 15 December 2025 (EST)

Talk:Package art/gallery

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Unofficial conventions

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With ''[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]'' being such a popular brand with a well-spread-out fan base, numerous '''unofficial [[convention]]s''' have sprung up over the years, often featuring many guests who worked on official ''Transformers'' projects.

Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, many of these conventions in 2020 and 2021 were cancelled or presented online instead of in-person.

{{note|Due to this wiki's policy on unofficial material, we do not have full pages for any of these events.}}

==Active Conventions==
* '''[[BotCon]]''' (There have been unofficial BotCons.)
**BotCon 2004: June 19th and 20th — Pasadena, California, USA
**BotCon 2022: August 25-28 — Nashville, Tennessee, USA
**BotCon 2023: August 24-27 — East Rutherford, New Jersey, USA
**BotCon 2024: June 27-30 — Fort Wayne, Indiana, USA
**BotCon 2025: June 12-15 — Fort Wayne, Indiana, USA

* '''[http://www.cybfestnw.com Cybfest NW]'''
**Cybfest NW 2014: August 16th — Kent Commons Community Center, Kent, Washington
**Cybfest NW 2015: August 22nd — Kent Commons Community Center, Kent, Washington
**Cybfest NW 2016: August 20th — Kent Commons Community Center, Kent, Washington
**Cybfest NW 2017: August 19th — Kent Commons Community Center, Kent, Washington
**Cybfest NW 2018: August 18th — Kent Commons Community Center, Kent, Washington
**Cybfest NW 2019: July 27th — Kent Commons Community Center, Kent, Washington
**<s>Cybfest NW 2020: August 1st — Kent Commons Community Center, Kent, Washington</s> — Canceled due to COVID-19 pandemic.
**Cybfest NW 2021: September 11th — Kent Commons Community Center, Kent, Washington
**Cybfest NW 2022: July 23rd — Kent Commons Community Center, Kent, Washington
**Cybfest NW 2023: July 8th — Kent Commons Community Center, Kent, Washington
**Cybfest NW 2024: August 3rd — Kent Commons Community Center, Kent, Washington
**Cybfest NW 2025: August 3rd — Kent Commons Community Center, Kent, Washington

* '''[http://dairylandtransfans.com/dtfdairycon.html Dairycon]'''
**Dairycon 1.0 2001: November 24th — Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA
**Dairycon 2.0 2002: September 14th — Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA
**Dairycon 3.0 2003: October 18th — Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA
**Dairycon 4.0 2004: April 10th — Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA
**Dairycon 2005: April 9th — Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA
**Dairycon 2006: April 8th — Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA
**Dairycon 2007: April 14th — Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA
**Dairycon 2008: March 29th — Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA
**Dairycon 2009: April 24th and 25th — Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA
**Dairycon 2010: April 9th and 10th — Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA
**Dairycon 2011: April 15th and 16th — Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA
**Dairycon 2012: April 27th and 28th — Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA
**Dairycon 2013: April 5th and 6th — Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA
**Dairycon 2014: April 25th and 26th — Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA
**Dairycon 2015: March 27th and 28th — Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA
**Dairycon 2016: April 1st and 2nd — Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA
**Dairycon 2017: April 1st — Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA
**Dairycon 2018: April 6th and 7th — Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA
**Dairycon 2019: April 5th and 6th — Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA
**Dairycon 2020: September 18th and 19th — Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA
**Dairycon 2021: April 9th and 10th — Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA
**Dairycon 2022: April 8th and 9th — Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA
**Dairycon 2023: April 14th and 15th — Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA
**Dairycon 2024: April 12th and 13th — Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA
**Dairycon 2025: April 11th and 12th — Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA

* '''[https://retcon.se/retcon/ RetCon]'''
**RetCon 2017: April 29th — Helsingborg, Sweden
**RetCon 2018: June 2nd — Helsingborg, Sweden
**RetCon 2019: September 28th — Borås, Sweden
**<s>RetCon 2020: September 26th — Helsingborg, Sweden</s> — Canceled due to COVID-19 pandemic.
**RetCon 2022: April 30th — Helsingborg, Sweden
**RetCon 2023: September 30th — Lund, Sweden
**RetCon 2024: September 28th — Lund, Sweden
**RetCon 2026: April 24th-25th — Lund, Sweden

* '''[http://www.tfcon.ca/ TFcon]'''
**TransformersCon 2002: November 10th — Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
**TransformersCon 2003: June 22nd — Burlington, Ontario, Canada
**TransformersCon 2004: March 12th and 13th — [[Toronto]], Ontario, Canada
**TransformersCon 2005: March 25th and 26th — Toronto, Ontario, Canada
**TransformersCon 2006: April 28th and 29th — Toronto, Ontario, Canada
**TransformersCon 2007: April 27th and 28th — Toronto, Ontario, Canada
**TFcon 2008: June 20th and 21st — Toronto, Ontario, Canada
**TFcon 2009: April 25th and 26th — Toronto, Ontario, Canada
**TFcon 2010: July 17th and 18th — Toronto, Ontario, Canada
**TFcon 2011: July 30th and 31st — Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
**TFcon 2012: July 27th and 29th — Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
**TFcon 2013: July 26th to 28th — Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
**TFcon 2014: July 11th to 13th — Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
**TFcon 2015: July 17th to 19th — Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
**TFcon 2016: July 15th to 17th — Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
**TFcon 2017: July 14th to 16th — Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
**TFcon 2018: July 13th to 15th — Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
**TFcon 2019: July 12th to 14th — Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
**<s>TFcon 2020: September 4th to 6th — Mississauga, Ontario, Canada</s> — Canceled due to COVID-19 pandemic.
**TFcon 2021: December 10th to 12th — Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
**TFcon Toronto 2022: July 8th to 10th — Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
**TFcon Toronto 2023: July 14th to 16th — Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
**TFcon Toronto 2024: July 12th to 14th — Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
**TFcon Toronto 2025: July 11th to 13th — Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
**TFcon Toronto 2026: July 10th to 12th — Mississauga, Ontario, Canada

* '''[http://www.tfcon.com/ TFcon USA]'''
**TFcon USA 2014: October 24th to 26th — Hyatt Regency O'Hare, Chicago, Illinois, USA
**TFcon USA 2015: October 16th to 18th — Embassy Suites Charlotte Concord, Charlotte, North Carolina, USA
**TFcon USA 2016: October 21st to 23rd — Hyatt Regency O'Hare, Chicago, Illinois, USA
**TFcon USA 2017: September 29th to October 1st — Hyatt Regency Reston, Reston, Virginia, USA (billed as "[[Washington, D.C.]]")
**TFcon USA 2018: October 26th to 28st — Hyatt Regency O'Hare, Chicago, Illinois, USA
**TFcon Los Angeles 2019: March 15th to 17th — Los Angeles Marriott Burbank Airport Hotel & Convention Center, Burbank, USA
**TFcon DC 2019: October 25th to 27th — Hyatt Regency Reston, Reston, Virginia, USA (billed as "Washington, D.C.")
**<s>TFCon Orlando 2020: March 20th to 22nd — Double Tree Hilton, Orlando, Florida, USA</s> — Canceled due to COVID-19 pandemic.
**<s>TFCon Chicago 2020: October 23rd to 25th — Crowne Plaza Chicago O'Hare, Illinois, USA</s> — Canceled due to COVID-19 pandemic.
**TFcon Baltimore 2021: October 22nd to 24th — Hilton Baltimore, Baltimore, Maryland, USA
**TFcon Los Angeles 2022: March 11-13 — Los Angeles Marriott Burbank Airport Hotel & Convention Center, LA, USA
**TFcon Chicago 2022: October 21-23 — Crowne Plaza Chicago O'Hare Hotel & Conference Center, Illinois, IL, USA
**TFcon Los Angeles 2023: March 10-12 — Los Angeles Marriott Burbank Airport Hotel & Convention Center, LA, USA
**TFcon Orlando 2023: October 20-22 — Doubletree by Hilton Hotel Orlando at Seaworld, Orlando, Florida, USA
**TFcon Los Angeles 2024: March 8-10 — Los Angeles Marriott Burbank Airport Hotel & Convention Center, LA, USA
**TFcon Baltimore 2024: November 1-3 — Hilton Baltimore Inner Harbor, Baltimore, Maryland, USA
**TFcon Los Angeles 2025: March 7-9 — Los Angeles Marriott Burbank Airport Hotel & Convention Center, LA, USA
**TFcon Chicago 2025: October 24-26 — Crowne Plaza Chicago O'Hare Hotel & Conference Center, Illinois, IL, USA

* '''[https://tfnation.com/ TFNation]'''
**TFNation 2016: August 19th to 21st — Hilton Birmingham Metropole, Birmingham, UK
**TFNation 2017: August 11th to 13th — Hilton Birmingham Metropole, Birmingham, UK
**TFNation 2018: August 17th to 19th — Hilton Birmingham Metropole, Birmingham, UK
**TFNation 2019: August 16th to 18th — Hilton Birmingham Metropole, Birmingham, UK
**TFNation 2020: August 14th to 16th — <s>Hilton Birmingham Metropole, Birmingham, UK</s> — Switched to a virtual con on YouTube due to COVID-19 pandemic.
**TFNation 2021: August 13th to 15th — <s>Hilton Birmingham Metropole, Birmingham, UK</s> — Switched to a virtual con on YouTube due to COVID-19 pandemic.
**TFNation 2022: August 12th to 14th — Hilton Birmingham Metropole, Birmingham, UK
**TFNation 2023: August 11th to 13th — Hilton Birmingham Metropole, Birmingham, UK
**TFNation 2024: August 9th to 11th — Hilton Birmingham Metropole, Birmingham, UK
**TFNation 2025: August 8th to 10th — Hilton Birmingham Metropole, Birmingham, UK

* '''[https://tfukcon.com/ TFUKcon]'''
**TFUKcon 2022: May 14th — The Strathallan, Birmingham, UK
**TFUKcon 2023: May 13th — The Strathallan, Birmingham, UK
**TFUKcon 2024: May 11th — The Cobden Suite, Birmingham, UK
**TFUKcon 2025: May 17th — The Cobden Suite, Birmingham, UK
**TFUKcon 2026: May 16th — The Cobden Suite, Birmingham, UK

==Historic Conventions==
* '''Australian Conventions'''
**Sabretron 2004: November 6th — Ashfield Catholic and Community Centre, Sydney New South Wales, Australia
**OzToyCon 2006: September 23rd — King Street Wharf, Sydney New South Wales, Australia

* '''[http://www.autoassembly.org.uk Auto Assembly]'''
**Auto Assembly 2000: 22 October 2000 — Ibis Hotel, Birmingham, England
**Auto Assembly 2001: 4 March 2001 — Ibis Hotel, Birmingham, England
**Auto Assembly 2003: 2 August 2003 — Britannia Hotel, Birmingham, England
**Auto Assembly 2004: 8–9 May 2004 — Britannia Hotel, Birmingham, England
**Auto Assembly 2005: 4 June 2005 — Clarendon Suites, Birmingham, England
**Auto Assembly 2006: 3 June 2006 — Clarendon Suites, Birmingham, England
**Auto Assembly 2008: 2 August 2008 — Clarendon Suites, Birmingham, England
**[[Auto Assembly 2009]]: August 15th and 16th — Smallbrook Queensway, Birmingham, England
**[[Auto Assembly 2010]]: August 13th to 15th — Smallbrook Queensway, Birmingham, England
**Auto Assembly 2011: August 12th to 14th — Smallbrook Queensway, Birmingham, England
**Auto Assembly 2012: August 3rd to 5th — Hilton Birmingham Metropole Hotel, Birmingham, England
**Auto Assembly 2013: August 9th to 11th — Hilton Birmingham Metropole Hotel, Birmingham, England
**Auto Assembly 2014: August 8th to 10th — Hilton Birmingham Metropole Hotel, Birmingham, England
**Auto Assembly 2015: August 21st to 23rd — Hilton Birmingham Metropole Hotel, Birmingham, England

* '''Auto Assembly Europe'''
**Auto Assembly Europe 2011: November 12th and 13th — Uppsala, Sweden

* '''[http://www.bots-nl.net/ B.O.T.S.]''' (Was briefly known as TF-Conversions)
**B.O.T.S. 2007: June 10 — Nieuwegein, Netherlands
**B.O.T.S. 2008: June 8 — Nieuwegein, Netherlands
**TF-Conversions 2009: June 14 — Nieuwegein, Netherlands
**B.O.T.S. 2011: May 22nd — Can Dance Studios, Aaslsmeer, Netherlands
**B.O.T.S. 2012: June 3rd — Can Dance Studios, Aaslsmeer, Netherlands
**B.O.T.S. 2013: June 9th — Can Dance Studios, Aaslsmeer, Netherlands
**B.O.T.S. 2014: May 25th — Can Dance Studios, Aaslsmeer, Netherlands
**B.O.T.S. 2015: June 7th — Can Dance Studios, Aaslsmeer, Netherlands
**B.O.T.S. 2016: June 5th — Can Dance Studios, Aaslsmeer, Netherlands
**B.O.T.S. 2017: June 18th — Can Dance Studios, Aaslsmeer, Netherlands

* '''Charticon'''
**Charticon 2013: August 9th to 11th — Charlotte, North Carolina, USA

* '''[http://www.ggaub.com/tf/cybcon.html Cybcon]'''
**Cybcon 2000: July 29th — hosted at the event organizer's house Washington state, USA
**Cybcon 2001: July 14th — hosted at the event organizer's house Washington state, USA
**Cybcon 2002: July 27th — hosted at the event organizer's house Washington state, USA
**Cybcon 2003: July 19th — Les Gove Park Multi-Purpose Building, Auburn, Washington, USA
**Cybcon 2004: July 10th — Les Gove Park Multi-Purpose Building, Auburn, Washington, USA
**Cybcon 2005: July 9th — Auburn Parks and Rec Admin Building, Auburn, Washington, USA
**Cybcon 2006: September 2nd — The King Oscar convention center, Tacoma Washington, USA
**Cybcon 2007: July 14th — The King Oscar convention center, Tacoma Washington, USA
**Cybcon 2008: August 23rd — The King Oscar convention center, Tacoma Washington, USA
**Cybcon 2009: July 25th — The King Oscar convention center, Tacoma Washington, USA
**Cybcon 2010: August 21st — The King Oscar convention center, Tacoma Washington, USA
**Cybcon 2011: September 3rd — The King Oscar convention center, Tacoma Washington, USA
**Cybcon 2012: August 18th — The King Oscar convention center, Tacoma Washington, USA
**Cybcon 2013: August 10th — The King Oscar convention center, Tacoma Washington, USA

* '''[http://www.cyberconexpo.com/ Cybercon Expo]'''
**Cybercon Expo I 2003: April 5th — Holiday Inn, Cherry Hill, New Jersey, USA
**Cybercon Expo Wave 2 2003 : November 1st — Radisson Hotel, Mt. Laurel, New Jersey, USA
**Cybercon Expo Act 3 2004: April 10th — Radisson Hotel, Mt. Laurel, New Jersey, USA
**Cybercon Expo 2005: July 29th and 30th — New York City, New York, USA

* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20190121081754/http://www.cybertrome.com/ Cybertrome]'''
**Cybertrome 2017: May 6th & 7th — SGM Convention Center, Rome, Italy
**Cybertrome 2018: May 5th & 6th — SGM Convention Center, Rome, Italy

* '''C.O.N.S.'''
**C.O.N.S. 2009: July 19th — Viersen, Germany
**C.O.N.S. 2010: July 25th — Mönchengladbach, Germany
**C.O.N.S. 2011: July 24th — Willich, Germany
**C.O.N.S. 2012: July 22nd — Lobberich/Nettetal, Germany
**C.O.N.S. 2013: July 21st — Lobberich/Nettetal, Germany
**C.O.N.S. 2014: October 5th — Lobberich/Nettetal, Germany
**C.O.N.S. 2015: October 4th — Lobberich/Nettetal, Germany
**C.O.N.S. 2016: October 9th — Kolpinghaus, Viersen, Germany
**C.O.N.S. 2017: October 8th — Kolpinghaus, Viersen, Germany
**C.O.N.S. 2018: September 2nd — Kolpinghaus, Viersen, Germany
**C.O.N.S. 2019: September 8th — Kolpinghaus, Viersen, Germany
**C.O.N.S. 2020: <s>October 11th</s> — Mönchengladbach, Germany — Postponed due to COVID-19 pandemic until <s>April 18, 2021</s>.
**C.O.N.S. 2022: August 7th — Dülken, Viersen, Germany

* '''Iacon One'''
**Iacon One 2006: July 7th and 8th — Grand Wayne Convention Center, Fort Wayne, Indiana, USA

* '''[https://iacononline.wordpress.com/ Ia-Con Online]'''
**Ia-Con Online 2021: January 30th to 31st — Worldwide, Online

* '''NTFA Conventions'''
**NTFA Mini-Con 2007: November 3rd to 5th — Arlöv, Sweden
**NTFA NordCon 2010: June 19th to 20th — Aalborg, Denmark
**NTFA NordCon 2011: Cancelled. They have joined up with Auto Assembly to create Auto Assembly Europe.

* '''[https://nightshiningllc.com/blogs/news RoboCon]'''
**Pete's Robot Convention 2017: June 23rd–24th — Covington, Kentucky, USA
**Pete's RoboCon 2018: June 9th–10th — Covington, Kentucky, USA
**<small>Pete's</small> RoboCon 2019: June 14th–15th — Covington, Kentucky, USA
**<small>Pete's</small> RoboCon 2020: July 24th–25th — <s>Louisville, Kentucky, USA</s> — Switched to a virtual con on Facebook due to COVID-19 pandemic.
**<small>Pete's</small> RoboCon 2021: June 18th–19th — Louisville, Kentucky, USA

* '''Slag-a-con'''
**Slag-a-con 2010: October 9th — Chesterfield, Indiana, USA
**Slag-a-con 2011: October 15th — Chesterfield, Indiana, USA
**Slag-a-con 2012: October 13th & 14th — Chesterfield, Indiana, USA
**Slag-a-con 2013: October 26th & 27th — Florence, Kentucky, USA

* '''Savcon'''
**Savcon 2012: June 23rd & 24th — Savannah, Georgia, USA
**Savcon 2014: June 27th–29th — Savannah, Georgia, USA

* '''[http://www.tfexpo.net/ TFExpo]'''
**TFExpo 2011: July 30th — Wichita, Kansas
**TFExpo 2012: August 4th — Wichita, Kansas
**TFExpo 2013: August 3rd — Wichita, Kansas
**TFExpo 2014: August 1st–3rd — Wichita, Kansas
**TFExpo 2015: August 14th–15th — Wichita, Kansas
**TFExpo 2016: August 5th–6th — Wichita, Kansas
**TFExpo 2018: August 3rd–4th — Kansas City, Missouri
**TFExpo 2019: July 26th–27th — Kansas City, Missouri
**<s>TFExpo 2020: July 31st–Aug 1st — Stoney Creek Hotel and Conference Center, Kansas City, Missouri</s> — Canceled due to COVID-19 pandemic.
**TFExpo 2022: July 22nd–23rd — Kansas City, Missouri

* '''TraFest'''
**TraFest 2010: November 28 — Higashi Betsuin Kaikan, Tachibana, Naka-ku, Nagoya, Japan
**TraFest 2012: May 5th — Higashi Betsuin Kaikan, Tachibana, Naka-ku, Nagoya, Japan
**TraFest 2013: May 5th — Higashi Betsuin Kaikan, Tachibana, Naka-ku, Nagoya, Japan
**TraFest 2014: February 9th — Higashi Betsuin Kaikan, Tachibana, Naka-ku, Nagoya, Japan

* '''Transcon''' (organized by [[Men in Black]] Productions)
**Transcon II: July 1997 — Chicago, IL, USA
**Transcon III: September 1998 — Toledo, OH, USA
::(Held simultaneously with "Microcon", a ''[[Microman]]'' convention, and "Megocon".)

* '''Transforce'''
**Transforce 1999: 6 June 1999 — A Place in Space / Otaku World, Croydon, England
**Transforce 2000: 22–23 April 2000 — Connaught Hall, London, England
**Transforce 2001: 25 August 2001 — Beckenham Public Hall, Beckenham, England
**Transforce 2002: 10 August 2002 — Fairfield Halls, Croydon, England
**Transforce 2004: 28 August 2004 — Canons Leisure Centre, Mitcham, England

* '''TransForMarket''' (トランスFORマーケット, organized by [[Hayato Sakamoto]])
**TransForMarket 2014: April 20 — Tokyo, Japan

* '''Transformers Cybercon'''
**Transformers Cybercon 2007: June 23rd and 24th — Shangri La Mall, Philippines

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[[Category:Conventions]]

Super Mode

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[[File:Comrade optimus supermode.jpg|thumb|250px|You've no idea how long this article went without a mainpic.]]
A '''Super Mode''' is an auxiliary transformation some Cybertronians possess that is used sparingly, perhaps due to a higher energy consumption. This transformation often involves combining with unused portions of their [[alternate mode]] and bringing normally concealed weapons systems online. This form is often a variation on the robot mode, but there are many who possess vehicular or other Super Modes. In some continuities, it is referred to as a '''Battle Mode''', '''Brute Mode''', or '''Ultra Mode'''. A robot-mode super mode is, amazingly enough, often called a '''Super Robot'''.

==Fiction==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:DwellerDepths_Magnus_packing_heat.jpg|right|160px|thumb]]
:One might easily consider [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] one of the earliest examples of a Super Mode, due to his toy combining with his [[trailer]] to form a Super Robot. However, due to the recognition factor and possible confusion with [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], he was never depicted in his primary robot mode. This made his Super Mode his ''de facto'' normal mode.

:This was later superseded by Optimus Prime's upgrade into a [[Powermaster]], by which he acquired a canonical Super Mode. However, after the first couple of issues he was rarely if ever shown in his smaller robot mode.

:The ''Classics'' Voyager Class and ''Generations'' Leader Class [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] toy has a removable head-piece and large booster-kibble in robot mode which could be considered a super mode (the actual reason was to allow a toy that resembles Jetfire in both his toy and cartoon appearances).
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====Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity====
====''Super-God Masterforce''====
[[Image:Godginrai_onmoon.jpg|right|160px|thumb]]
:[[Ginrai (human)|Ginrai]], much like his American Powermaster counterpart, possessed both a robot mode and a Super Robot mode from combining with his trailer. As well, he could combine this powerful mode with the [[Godbomber]] drone to form a still larger and shinier "God Ginrai" mode. Though Godbomber had no counterpart in the English-language fiction, the rerelease of Powermaster Optimus Prime fifteen years later included the mold improvements featured in Ginrai as well as the Godbomber figure, renamed [[Apex Bomber]], who formed Prime's "Apex Armor."
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====''Victory''====
[[Image:Starsaber_vs_dinoking.jpg|right|160px|thumb]]
:[[Star Saber (G1)|Star Saber]] was a double [[Brainmaster]], starting as a small robot known as the Brain of Courage, combining into a larger robot named Saber, and finally forming an even larger robot known as Star Saber (natch). This robot could then be enhanced further by combining with [[Ginrai (robot)|Victory Leo]] to form Victory Saber.
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====''Zone''====
{{stub|[[Big Powered]]}}
====''Return of Convoy''====
{{stub|[[Battlestar Attack]]}}
=====''Legends'' comic=====
{{stub|so many}}
=====''Generations Selects Special Comic''=====
{{stub|oh god so many}}
====2005 IDW continuity====
[[Image:Thunderwingidwultramode.jpg|right|160px|thumb|Does this mean he's the same size as Devastator?]]
:[[Nova Prime]] possessed a Super Robot mode formed by combining with his vehicle mode's trailer. This form also granted him wings and thus the power of flight.

:[[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]] revealed that not only were his robot and jet modes enhanced by the [[Pretender]] process, but he also possessed an extremely powerful tertiary '''Ultra Mode'''. However this form drew heavily from the reserves of [[Ore-13]] that were powering him, causing the enhanced energon variant to go critical and burn him out from the inside. Damaging him beyond repair. [[Spotlight: Galvatron|Or not.]] {{storylink|The Transformers: Stormbringer |Stormbringer}}
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{{stub|Sentinel Prime, Optimus Maximus, Minimus Ambus's whole deal, Phase 2/3 in general}}
===''Robots in Disguise'' (2001)===
[[Image:MistakenIdentity_Omega_Guns_stock.jpg|right|160px|thumb]]
:[[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]] initially had a smaller robot mode composed of just his vehicle mode cab, which could then combine with pieces of his "trailer" to form a larger, more powerful '''Battle Mode''' (this mode was called "Super Fire Convoy" in ''Car Robots''). Later on, he and [[Ultra Magnus (RID)|Ultra Magnus]] could combine to form the Super Robot [[Omega Prime]] ("God Fire Convoy" in ''Car Robots''). Neither was the dominant personality in this fusion, much to Magnus's disappointment.

:Also, the three [[Autobot Brothers]] [[Side Burn (RID)|Side Burn]], [[Prowl (RID)|Prowl]], and [[X-Brawn]] were each granted the ability to "Power Up" into a "Supercharge Mode" after receiving a power boost from Ultra Magnus when the Matrix was being shared between him and Prime. In contrast to more typical Super Modes which used unused altmode bits or hidden weapons, their super modes were examples of [[spontaneous recoloration]].
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===Unicron Trilogy===
====''Armada''====
[[Image:Puppet_optimus_overload.jpg|right|160px|thumb|"This is perfectly safe, I swear!"]]
:[[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] could combine with his trailer to form his Super Mode. He could also combine with [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]] to become Jet Optimus. Both of these Super Modes could be further enhanced by mounting [[Overload (Armada)|Overload]] on their shoulders. In the Japanese version ''Legends of the Microns'', the names used are "Jet Convoy" and "Magna Jet Convoy", respectively.

:[[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] could form a Super Mode by combining with the various components that make up [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]]. He retains this ability after being upgraded into Galvatron. While the instructions for Tidal Wave called this his "weapon mode," for over twenty years only ''Legends of the Microns'' named this mode as "Burning Megatron." It wasn't until [https://youtu.be/9iU32kaSXEI?t=2m07s the reveal video] of the [[Tidal Wave (Armada)#Legacy|''Legacy United'' Tidal Wave]] figure that officially gave it the "Burning" name in the West.
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====''Energon''====
[[Image:TwoHeros_optimus_supermode.jpg|right|160px|thumb|"Mismatched limbs will be all the rage one day, just watch."]]
:Optimus Prime could combine with the four drone vehicles stored in his trailer, with each forming an arm or a leg [[Scramble City (toyline)|Scramble City]]-style, leading to a wide variety of Super Robot modes. Prime could be further enhanced by combining with [[Wing Saber (Energon)|Wing Saber]] to form either his heavily armed "Fight Mode" or the more maneuverable "Flight Mode." Prime could also combine with [[Omega Supreme (Energon)|Omega Supreme]] to form "Optimus Supreme." The names "Wing Convoy - Cannon Mode", "Wing Convoy - Jet Mode", and "Omega Convoy" are used in the Japanese version ''Super Link''.

:Also, every Autobot (who wasn't an [[Omnicon]]) possessed the ability to combine with the others in pairs to form "[[Powerlinx]]" versions of themselves, thanks to the [[Spark of Combination]].

:As well, both [[Landmine (Energon)|Landmine]] and [[Bulkhead (Energon)|Bulkhead]] possessed "Brute Modes," which were formed by combining with previously unused portions of their vehicle forms.
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====''Cybertron''====
[[File:Cyb optimus super mode.jpg|right|160px|thumb|"You didn't want to see my mouth, anyway."]]
:In ''Transformers Cybertron'', Optimus Prime had the abillty to enter into a Super Mode. Most of his trailer goes onto his back while two leg pieces connect to the blue part of his legs and his [[mouthplate]] comes over his face. Optimus Prime used his Super Mode when fighting in battle against anybody vaguely threatening. He could also enter a number of Super Mode configurations by combining with other characters, such as "Savage Claw Mode" with [[Overhaul (Cybertron)|Leobreaker]] and "Sonic Wing Mode" with Wing Saber. (In ''Galaxy Force'' these modes were called "Liger Convoy" and "Sonic Convoy" respectively.)

:Conversely, Megatron could form the "Dark Claw Mode" with [[Nemesis Breaker]], and similarly named "Liger Megatron" in ''Galaxy Force''. {{storylink|Darkness}}. He lost this ability after Nemesis Breaker was destroyed by Metroplex {{storylink|Giant}}

===Live action film series===
====''Revenge of the Fallen'' film====
[[Image:ROTF movie Powered-Up Optimus Prime.jpg|thumb|right|250px|GIVE ME YOUR PARTS!]]
:After being critically injured by [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]], [[Jetfire (Movie)|Jetfire]] offered his parts to [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], who was still recovering after being resurrected and needed assistance in fighting [[the Fallen]]. Jetfire then ripped out his [[Laser core|spark core]] and died. [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] then instructed [[Jolt (ROTF)|Jolt]] to transplant the afterburners and weapons onto Optimus Prime's [[structure]]. Once completed, Optimus Prime was left with two winged rocket thrusters, extra armor, an arm-mounted missile launcher, and an arm-mounted machine gun. Flying off, Optimus broke through the debris The Fallen had raised to protect the [[Star Harvester]] and destroyed the machine, then attacked the Fallen. [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] came to the aid of his master, but Optimus broke off his arm, shooting off about a third of Megatron's head and finally used the rocket thrusters to send Megatron flying through some ruins. Optimus Prime and The Fallen then resumed their duel. The Fallen was able to tear off Prime's left thruster and strike him in the face with it, but Optimus Prime ultimately triumphed and ripped out the Fallen's [[spark]], forcing Megatron and [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] to retreat. Following this, Optimus detached Jetfire's donated parts. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

====''Dark of the Moon'' film====
[[Image:DOTM_optimus_with_flight_tech.jpg|thumb|right|250px]]
:Optimus Prime keeps the sacrificed parts from Jetfire, as well as the upgrade in power that came with it, keeping the rocket engine pieces inside his [[Armored Weapons Platform|trailer]] in the form of flight-capable combat armor. Additionally, the trailer itself also contains an impressive arsenal, deploying into a mobile weapons base as Optimus transforms.

:Additionally, many Transformers are capable of [[Stealth Force|boosting their agility and deploying numerous weapons directly from their vehicle modes]]. [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] and the [[Wreckers]] in particular can access "Stealth Force" vehicle modes that are ''significantly'' more weaponized, being filled to the brim with weapons and rocket boosters. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}

====''The Last Knight'' film====
*Though never seen in the movie, Cogman could also assume an unorthodox [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] configuration, and take control of a larger body.

===''Animated''===
*Prowl's samurai armor and Optimus's jetpack could count as supermodes.

===Aligned continuity family===
[[File:Rescuebots hightide megabot.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Optimus never thought this guy would come in handy to help deal with the [[Darkness Rising|Terrorcon apocalypse]], [[One Shall Rise, Part 1|Unicron's reactivation]], [[Darkest Hour (episode)|the destruction of the Autobot base]], or [[Deadlock (episode)|the potential obliteration of Earth's biosphere]]?]]
*[[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]] seemed to have a [[Bumblebee Battle Suit|battle suit]], at least in toy form as it was never used in the show.
*The [[Apex Armor (Thirteen)|Apex Armor]] could arguably serve as a "super mode" for those who wear it.
*[[High Tide]], however, does have a super mode. He can combine with his Rescue Rig, forming the head of a '''Megabot Mode''', while his rig transforms into a giant body, which greatly resembles the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] or [[Brainmaster]] technology. {{storylink|Turning the Tide}}
*Years later, while fighting [[The Fallen|Megatronus]], Sideswipe, Strongarm, and Bumblebee discovered that when they combined their [[Decepticon Hunter]]s, in [[Prime Decepticon Hunter|Prime form]], the energy surge would create armor for them to wear. {{storylink|Battlegrounds, Part 2}}
*Steeljaw would later find out about the power armors formed from combining three Decepticon hunters and would do the opposite, wield all three himself to form an even powerful armor, which Bumblebee stole back when Steeljaw lost the weapons.
*Though not much of a supermode, several characters would gain the ability to scan vehicles, and only change their color schemes, allowing them to blend into various terrians. Initially Optimus introduced the trick as something the Primes taught him during his time in the Realm of the Primes, but later other characters, who would have no way of knowing, use the ability as well.
*Several Minicons would show up in the second and third seasons that, like ''Armada'' before it, would have them link up to certain characters and allow them to gain powered armors or new configurations. Most notably the Weaponizers, which Starscream would seek out because if all 7 were combined, he would exceed the power level of a Prime. Starscream would gain an armor from combining all 7 Minicons, though he later lost one, which linked with Optimus and gave him armor as well.
*Later Stunwing would link up with Bumblebee and briefly give him a flying car mode.
*Soundwave would later use the Activators to steal the Autobots Decepticon Hunters to upgrade himself and free himself from the Shadowzone. Unlike Steeljaw, Soundwave's new body form remained intact even after losing the weapon, though his body seemed to revert a different color scheme.
*Optimus would link up with Hi-Test and gain the ability to turn into what was essentially a mobile battle station.

===''Cloud''===
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===''Cyberverse''===
*Season 2 would see several characters using the [[AllSpark]] to combine with ordinary Earth vehicles to form [[spark armor]]s. Of course, this would be carried over into the toyline where several more characters would come with armor who didn't otherwise have any in the show.
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==See also==
*[[Attack mode]]
*[[Combiner]]
*[[Optimus Prime Super Modes]]

[[Category:Gimmicks]]

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==2005 IDW continuity==
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File:Revolution5-Windbladeprofile.jpg|''Hasbro Heroes Sourcebook'' robot mode
File:TheChosenOne-windbladealtmode.jpg|Vehicle mode
File:Combiner Hunters-Windblade-Sara Pitre-Durocher.jpg|Temporary paint job for "Combiner Hunters"
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==Machinima ''Prime Wars Trilogy'' cartoon==
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File:Machinima-CW-Windblade.jpg|Robot mode
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==2019 IDW continuity==
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File:TheWorldInYourEyesPartOne-windblade.jpg|Transformation sequence
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==Other media==
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File:MTMTE26 cvrHAS.jpg|''Thrilling 30'' packaging art of robot mode
File:Transformers Legends LG 12.jpg|''Legends'' packaging art
File:Windblade-Earth-Wars.jpg|Robot and vehicle modes (''[[Transformers: Earth Wars|Earth Wars]]'')
File:Quidd-evergreen-Windblade-robot-mode.jpg|[[evergreen]] [[Quidd]] sticker
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Not Carnivac

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:''"Not Carnivac" is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[2005 IDW continuity|2005 IDW portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
[[File:Jetstorm and Fearswoop Drift 1.jpg|thumb|upright=3.0|right|(At left in the foreground.)]]

This Decepticon isn't really important. All you need to know is that he is '''not [[Carnivac (G1)|Carnivac]]'''.

==Fiction==
===2005 IDW continuity===
During a clash between the [[Autobot]]s and Decepticons on [[Dabola]], [[Drift (G1)|Deadlock]] led his troops to victory by going on the offensive against the Autobots. Afterwards, a member of Deadlock's team reminded him that [[Turmoil]]'s orders were not to fire unless fired upon, but Deadlock responded that Turmoil wouldn't know how they achieved their results. The trooper declared that he would tell Turmoil because unlike the rest of the squad, he was not afraid of Deadlock. Deadlock responded by shooting him in the head. {{storylink|Drift issue 1|Drift #1}}

==Notes==
*There appear to have been some miscommunications during the development of ''Drift'' #1, as four late-G1/G2 characters originally illustrated as dying in the story were actually alive in the IDW universe's "present". This oversight necessitated the recoloring of the Carnivac-esque Decepticon Deadlock kills (who remains unidentified, but is confirmed by [[Alex Milne]] as having been drawn as someone else,<ref name="notcarnivac">[http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=202885#202885 "it's not carnivac, but a bot with the same colors since the bot i wanted to use originally was going to be used somewhere else."]</ref> and intentionally colored in [[Breakdown (G1)#Generation 2|Breakdown]]'s ''Generation 2'' colors by Perez<ref name="breakdown">[http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=202904#202904 "I actually used G2 Breakdown's colors here from his original G2 toy"]</ref>) as a generic to maintain continuity.

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Comic-only Decepticons]]
[[Category:IDW (2005) Decepticons]]

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==The Thirteen and the other conversation we've been waiting for==

Over the last few years, the Thirteen have played a major role in multiple ''Transformers'' stories. However, this prominence—combined with Hasbro's increasingly loose approach their in-universe lore—has also led to increasingly divergent portrayals of the group and its individual members.

Around 2015, we took the step of consolidating all the different incarnations of the Thirteen on one page for each, with the rationale that the characters were former [[multiversal singularity|multiversal singularities]], and mostly shared similar backstories and personalities between incarnations. However, even at the time, this was not a completely ideal comporomise. Most notably, the various [[Alpha Trion]]s were not consolidated into one, partly due to length and partly because the existence of his [[Alpha Trion#Shattered Glass|murderously insane evil counterpart]] represented a massive contradiction to the entire notion.

However, over the years, multiple authors have drastically reinterpreted the Thirteen and their story. The role of "Thirteenth Prime" has been filled by multiple contradictory characters—[[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]], [[Zeta Prime (One)|Zeta Prime]], [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]]—and individual depictions of the Primes themselves have grown increasingly divergent. "Shattered Glass" Alpha Trion is no longer the outlier, but rather an increasing trend: for instance, ''Transformers One'' features a completely heroic Megatronus who never becomes The Fallen, a Liege Maximo that looks nothing like Loki, and an incarnation of Nexus Prime that does not seem to be a combiner. With these data points in mind—and the potential for even further divergence in the coming years—I and several other editors feel that it may be time to reorganize our Thirteen coverage, splitting them out into individual [[continuity family]]-based incarnations the way we would for stock characters like [[Optimus Prime (disambiguation)|Optimus Prime]], [[Bumblebee (disambiguation)|Bumblebee]], etc.

However, if we do adopt this approach, some further problems would need to be solved.

* '''How do we handle toys?''' With a few exceptions like ''Revenge of the Fallen'' The Fallen, the toys of the Thirteen are clearly meant to be somewhat continuity-agnostic. ''Age of the Primes'' Solus Prime is about as faithful to her depiction in ''The Covenant of Primus'' as it is to ''One'' or any of the IDW comics in which she appears. Even if we count them as "repurposes" across multiple pages, the format of the wiki means they'd have to be based ''somewhere''...

* '''FunPub stuff''': The Vector Prime of "Ask Vector Prime" is clearly meant to be a version of the same Vector Prime who appeared in the ''Cybertron'' cartoon, but at the same time makes reference to off-camera events, such as a time when he and the Thirteen lived in Ancient Greece—would we make a separate "FunPub" page for the Thirteen, or try and work these events onto Unicron Trilogy pages when necessary? Other similar problems exist: "[[Coalescence]]" is a story that features a movie universe Fallen jumping into the world of ''Shattered Glass'', and AVP established that "The Evil One" of GoBots fame, is another alternate-universe incarnation of The Fallen/Megatronus.

Feedback on this proposal is appreciated! [[User:Locoman|Locoman]] ([[User talk:Locoman|talk]]) 11:50, 7 December 2024 (EST)
:From my point of view, I think as it stands right now my thoughts on the Thirteenth Prime stuff is that I absolutely understand the concerns, but for me personally it kind of falls into the same view as like, IDW Primus being Rung, which I think our current model handles fairly well. For the other Primes, I'm tempted to say that like...as it stands, there's about as much divergence there as like, Unicron as he's depicted in The Last Knight (not really shown to be aggressive beyond being called Cybertron's enemy), and as it stands right now, I don't think that's enough to say there should be a full-on split, but I do think it's worth thinking about future-proofing. And I suppose my main concern right now about pushing ahead too soon is in the event there's some fiction accompanying the Age of the Primes stuff; certainly, the fact that we're getting a toy of the Fallen with the Megatronus name but with the original Dreamwave design does make me hesitant that there might be some further consolidation of disparate elements; and I remember that last time we did this in the early 2010s was that we figured the idea of the Aligned Primes not having any connections to the others was going to be the standard going forward, which turned out not to be the case, and I figure it might be worth considering if something like that happens again. But! I am open to ideas of how to implement this if we do go for it; I think the suite options we have for Primus and Unicron work perfectly fine if we go for something like that. Just figure it's worth considering the stuff I've brought up here first. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 12:35, 7 December 2024 (EST)
::Right now, I'm leaning toward the camp of not splitting them out for all the reasons you've given. I look at our current situation and, while not perfect, I feel that things can be tidied up simply with some "Conceptual history" sections for the pages that need them. The aforementioned Vector Prime is a particular case not just for everything stated about him above, but because [[Vector Prime: In the Beginning|his very first Fub Pub appearance]] written by [[Forest Lee]] leans so heavily far into the multiversal aspect of the character that it doesn't treat him like he is a native to the Cybertron cartoon universe but rather to the whole multiverse itself. Similarly, Nexus Prime was also continuity-agnostic by his very nature from the ground up. The safest solution for splitting him out would be to classify his Fun Pub incarnation under "(Timelines)" (the previous "(Classics)" tag we had him under was bleh), but that's typically a last-resort tag we have tried to avoid in the past.
::Regarding The Fallen, while he does tend to be evil in a majority of his depictions, and has had a few outlier cases where he either didn't go bad at all (TF One) or was the victim of other's manipulations (Covenant), it's implied that the majority of those evil versions weren't always evil from the start, and only went bad later. The TF One version of Megatronus never turned to the dark side, but one could argue that he was murdered before he ever would have gotten the chance to. ;-)
::Regarding the Thirteenth Prime and various conflicting the depictions, we solved that issue by simply creating the "[[Thirteenth Prime]]" article to explain everything there.
::You mention the situation with Alpha Trion, and I get it. The biggest reasons for simply not merging all of his pages together were that A) he was never originally meant to be one of the Thirteen since the original Dreamwave-based lore for the Thirteen had them all die before A3 was even born, and B) his Shattered Glass self. I used to be a proponent for keeping all of his versions separate because of A, but in the time since then we've had more and more depictions of him as a 13er who were all still pretty much the same as his traditional pre-Aligned depictions. If we were to merge all of his versions together, a "Conceptual history" section for him could explain the whole "Sometimes he's a 13er, sometimes he's not" situation.
::BUT, there still remains his SG version, which I wouldn't feel comfortable putting on the same page as his other versions. Reaching back to the [https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Talk:Transformers:_Shattered_Glass_(franchise)#Separate_Continuity.3F original discussion] about how to handle the SG characters, I find myself still agreeing with those like Steve-o who pointed out how awkward "'''Continuity X''': Bumblebee loves humans and does lots of funny and cute stuff to help save the universe. '''Continuity Y''': Bumblebee loves humans and does lots of different but still funny and cute stuff to help save the universe. '''Shattered Glass''': Bumblebee is hardcore evil and wants to kill you for no particular reason. '''Continuity Z''': Bumblebee loves humans and does yet another set of funny and cute stuff to help save the universe." reads as a page. But, there is one thing we have nowadays that we did not have back when that original discussion was held and makes me wonder how differently the conversation might have gone if they had existed back then: Subpages. Looking at our [[Primus]] and [[Unicron]] articles, I find it to be a very fair and workable compromise that their respective SG versions are placed not on their respective main pages but as subpages for each. Doing the same for SG Alpha Trion were we to merge all of the non-SG A3's together could be a valid solution too, in my eyes. Unlike others, I don't see subpages as an annoying evil that much be dealt with and eliminated, but as a handy tool to work around tricky situations like this.
::Had they even existed back then, it's very possible that ALL SG characters may have ended up on subpages for their positive polarity counterparts instead of separate pages entirely. And since then, SG has grown to expand not just beyond the original Fun Pub SG G1 continuity but to other non-G1 SG continuities, like for the Movies, Animated, and Cybertron, forcing us to create such unsightly tags as "(SG Movie)", "(SG Animated)", and "(SG Cybertron)", when subpages could have prevented that with "(Movie)/Shattered Glass" or "(Animated)/Shattered Glass" and so on.
::But, I'm getting off topic. Backing up to the Thirteen, I'm for keeping the Thirteen together. In addition to what all I've said above, the Age of the Primes toys seem to be treating them as the standard or definitive versions of the Thirteen that apply for every version/universe/continuity, pulling from all across the board rather than sticking to a single depicted version of them. Prima has his Aligned body but the Sunbow Powerful Robot's head. The Fallen is just the Dreamwave design but with Aligned Megatronus's weapons from the books and RID 2015 cartoon. Micronus is likely to be based on his RID 2015 design which was itself based on the Aligned design. The statue group artwork makes Amalgamous looks more like his TF One design than his Aligned design. Vector Prime is just straight-up Cybertron Vector Prime. And Star Convoy was never one of the Thirteen in any version before now. Yet, all these disparately-sourced designs are being treated as if they all belong to the same group no matter what continuity they come from. So keeping them together as they are would just make it easier for us to not have to split hairs over which versions of which 13ers these are supposed to be when the answer would simply be "all of the above" (and we wouldn't have to put multiple entries of the same toy on, like, six or seven different characters' pages that would have to maintained equally across all of those pages). This model makes this particular version of the group feel inherently multiversal, with each member either originating from a different universe as each other, or being a multiversal hybrids comprised of different aspects of different versions of them from across the dimensions, as if Hasbro is trying to say that the AOTP versions represent *every* version of the Thirteen (minus Star Optimus, of course, since we know he's not a member in every version of this group). --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 13:01, 7 December 2024 (EST)
:::As somebody who's pushed for this split for a long time, I'm obviously all for it. I feel we can easily determine where the toys go based on their main inspirations (Fallen is G1 Dreamwave, Micronus is Aligned RID, etc) are or just make the links go to the G1 pages (since G1 is effectively the wastebasket taxon of this franchise anyway). For the FunPub stuff, we can either do it Sideways style or just do it like we do for Kre-O and ancillary stuff: place them based on the characterization/design used by the work. Multiversal Vector Prime is pretty much just Cybertron Vector Prime (and the TransTech incarnation from the last portion of AVP can be split out).
:::I am pretty much opposed to "subpages" because that is just duplicating the parentheses system we already have just for the sake of pedantry. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:03, 7 December 2024 (EST)
:::Fully agree with both Escargon and Sabrblade, and their reasoning. I am biased against splits pretty much as a matter of cause, but the Thirteen ''in particular'' have for most of their history (including now, in the continuity-agnostic ''Age of the Primes!)'' been defined by their multiversal nature. I just don't think a split would be helpful. —[[User:The Wadapan|wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 16:05, 7 December 2024 (EST)
::::So we need to wait five years of more non-multiversal stories to have this discussion again? That doesn't make sense. The COP version of the Thirteen weren't characterized as singularities in the first place, regardless; only FunPub cared about that aspect (and not even with the usual lineup we have now) and they tossed it because they realized it was an unworkable concept in this franchise and it's unlikely to ever get resurrected. It's been nearly a decade since the Shroud (the concept only existed from 2009-2015). You bring up AOTP but toylines clearly don't and never thought about those characters in terms of our organizational schema. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 17:19, 7 December 2024 (EST)
:I think we can probably leave the most of the old content together, since it might be a mess to split them apart and much of that content is based on the Covenant mythos anyway. I feel new iterations of the Thirteen (post-POTP?) should get their own pages, like ''Earthspark'' Quintus and the ''One'' Primes (particularly Megatronus since he's quite different). Though I suppose that begs the question of what to use in the parentheses for their current pages... —[[User:BluJayWarrior|BluJayWarrior]] ([[User talk:BluJayWarrior|talk]]) 13:10, 7 December 2024 (EST)
::How much of it is actually sticking to the Covenant? IDW1 had them be regular guys and some pre-Covenant stuff (notably Megatronus/Fallen) is more prominent for the character and not really compatible. Other Aligned stuff has also influenced other "continuity families", but we're not merging those articles, so I don't really see why this is different regarding the Thirteen. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:49, 7 December 2024 (EST)
:I’m against splitting pages, mostly because The Thirteen haven’t had enough drastic and unique depictions of them to stop “breaking the rules” for them and give them split pages.
::> The Thirteen haven’t followed the traditional convention of “every character gets a new page for that universe’s depiction”, mostly because of the whole multiversal singularity issue. Now while that concept isn’t used in fiction anymore, ''Age of the Primes'' seems to lean towards having a standard, continuity-agnostic depiction of the Thirteen from which future teams can use as the foundation of their depictions.
::> Escargon and Sabrblade make some good points regarding subpages, particularly with the example of the standard '''“Primus = God”''' and '''Rung (G1)''' incarnations. Rung is a distinct and unique take on the Primus character whose backstory is incompatible with virtually every other Primus incarnation, so placing him on the same page as the Primus of the Marvel Comics, or Cybertron, or the Aligned continuity, wouldn’t seem right.
::> ''The Covenant of Primus'' has been the foundation of every depiction of the Thirteen since it was released. Certain things might be modified, such as the 2005 IDW’s take on them, but even those Primes still follow certain story beats: Megatronus kills Solus, Liege Maximo is a manipulator, Prima’s role as the leader and his conflict with Megatronus, etc. ''One'' offers a depiction of the Thirteen who don’t enter a War of the Primes situation, but because we don’t really get any more information about them besides how they died, I wouldn’t say that they’re distinct enough or important enough to warrant their own pages.
::> Then there’s the fact that a lot of the Primes either have had very small roles or haven’t had any real importance to the franchise in several years: '''Micronus'''’s last big role was a few episodes in ''Robots in Disguise'' and a clever tie-in to the Microspace of the 2005 IDW universe. '''Onyx'''’s only big role was in the ''Covenant'', mostly thanks to '''[[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|this guy]]''' taking his place in another universe. Onyx has a few mentions in ''Cyberverse'', but I don’t think that alone should be the reason for splitting his page up. '''Nexus Prime''' and '''Vector Prime''' haven’t really done anything notable since the Shroud. '''Solus Prime''' has seen some prominence thanks to IDW's Caminus and ''Power of the Primes'', but those depictions again don’t stray too far from the ''Covenant''. '''Amalgamous Prime''' has had virtually no exploration as a character. The most we’ve gotten for him is a much easier-to-look-at design in ''One''.
::> Character-wise, story-wise… they’re all still heavily based on the ''Covenant''. Even '''Quintus Prime'''’s ''Earthspark'' depiction (with his more human-looking face) is based on his “Johnny Appleseed, made the Quintessons” lore established from the ''Covenant''. Now if we had a full group of the Thirteen from a Shattered Glass universe or had some “What-If?” incarnations of the characters that made them very different… splitting pages would make more sense to me.
::> A lot of the Thirteen have also maintained a consistent visual look to them since their introduction: all the Primes introduced in the Covenant have kept their look (Alchemist’s Lenses, Onyx’s face, Solus’ hair and color scheme), and every version of Megatronus seems to have a Decepticon insignia face, flames, and/or both. While ''One'' may have changed some color schemes (Liege Maximo missing his green), I don’t think just having a different color scheme and nothing else different warrants a new page.
::> I like the idea of conceptual history sections for now, and as I said on ''The Fallen''’s talk page, I think the beginning to his page needs a general rewrite from its “frozen in 2009” version. But until drastic new interpretations of those characters are created, if a member of the Thirteen has a single page… we should keep it as a single page --[[User:Daytonjhammon|Daytonjhammon]] ([[User talk:Daytonjhammon|talk]]) 16:33, 7 December 2024 (EST)
: Splitting them would simply be a bigger headache. They're rather like Primus and Unicron where they're "bigger picture" characters (only this time around designed ''very specifically'' to '''''be''''' as such) and it's best to treat them as such, and really, there's not enough material to BOTHER splitting for most of them. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 18:29, 7 December 2024 (EST)
::Since it's related to this subject, it should probably also be mentioned here that there have recently been two discussions happening on the talk page for [[The Fallen]]. One about changing that article's mainpic and the other about moving the page's name to Megatronus. As of now, nothing has come out of either discussion, but I feel the results of this a bigger discussion may have an effect on either of those two smaller ones. Speaking as one who is in favor of not splitting out the Thirteen, my thoughts on these two smaller topics are that a good compromise would be to keep the article at its current name since many Megatronuses still become The Fallen, but replace the mainpic with The Fallen's Age of the Primes toy packaging art (as it depicts him in his original first body from Dreamwave but armed with his now-signature weapons from Aligned media, serving as a sort of visual overview for the character's history), along with a rewrite of his intro at the top of the page to be more all-encompassing, and the inclusion of a new "Conceptual history" section to give a proper overview of his different depictions. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 19:29, 7 December 2024 (EST)
:::I'm going to second this. I've mulled it over a little bit and while there is an argument to be made for splitting them out, I feel that 12 of the 13 primes really don't warrant it. They just haven't had as much an impact on the story and while it could be future proofing to split them, until we get prominent appearances from them I don't think it's a viable option right now. Megatronus is clearly the exception to this rule. I don't know if there's a clean solution to dealing with him at the moment. Part of me thinks maybe we should suite out the Movie and RiD versions since those are his too big appearences to date. At the bare minimum though I think we should use either his Dreamwave or Age of Primes art as the mainpic. It's his first body and I think it's influenced more designs than his RoTF design has. [[User:Ezim93|Ezim93]] ([[User talk:Ezim93|talk]]) 22:57, 7 December 2024 (EST)
::::Erm, no. Neither his Movie or RiD sections (certainly not the latter) are big enough to warrant subpages for either. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 00:57, 8 December 2024 (EST)
:::I'm also of the opinion that a split would be a massive hassle for very little gain, but I do feel we should move The Fallen to Megatronus. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 06:54, 8 December 2024 (EST)
::::To me, renaming the page to Megatronus feels like renaming an Optimus Prime page to Orion Pax. The name was created to tell us what he was called ''before'' he became The Fallen, like how Orion Pax was what Optimus was called before he became Optimus Prime. TF One Megatronus never became The Fallen but he's an anomaly, not a new standard. As of now, the only impact TF One Megatronus has had on the brand is the official reveal video for Age of the Primes describing the very Dreamwave/Aligned-based AOTP version as "the most powerful Prime," while also putting a grim, pronounced emphasis on "The Fallen" when referring to him as "Megatronus... The Fallen". --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 13:16, 8 December 2024 (EST)
::::: '''Yes''' to changing The Fallen's mainpic back to the DW-style character design, huge-ass '''No''' to changing the page name; the Optimus/Orion comparison is spot-on. (And as to below... yes. The Thirteen are absolutely "set dressing that walks like a man" and best to approach them as such.) --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 20:11, 8 December 2024 (EST)

:After meditating upon this a while I think I've come to agree with the broad majority above that splitting each member of the Thirteen would hurt more than it would help. The way I see it what we should be striving for here is the approach that involves the least "hallucinating data" within our organizational system, and splitting will require making a lot of different calls on what "counts" to formulate micro-characterizations for dozens of serial continuity transplants, none of which do much individually, while obfuscating the larger context they are gesturing towards. Fundamentally what we may be running up against here is that the closest most of these guys have to a true "home continuity" as we typically think of it is... the brand bible. They are set dressing that walks like a man.

:To go one step further, if we want to talk future-proofing I would advocate formalizing the approach of treating them as a squad of mini-Unicrons/Primuses such that:

::1) My suggestion for the issues currently plaguing the Fallen (and to a lesser degree Trion) would be to make "Conceptual History" sections more or less standard issue across the board for the Thirteen, laying out swerves in characterization and appearance as they happened rather than trying to pry them apart ''or'' smoosh them together.

::2) I think it's worth revisiting merging Alpha Trion for consistency. In the decade+ since Prime cludged him into the lineup, Alpha Trion has consistently appeared as a member of the Thirteen, an insubstantial cameo, or both in pretty much every continuity he's appeared, and looking backwards I cannot help but notice that the fact that there's next to no meaningful daylight between his depictions has been the running gag of his [[Alpha Trion|disambiguation page]] since day one. If Shattered Glass remains a sticking point the Unicron/Primus style suite split approach is a reasonable compromise.

:I wouldn't say I'm married to any of this and counter-counter-proposals are welcome, but that's my two cents. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 14:08, 8 December 2024 (EST)
:I think just put a line at the end of the fallens intro article that says "while mostly a bad guy, there exists at least one universe (link to TF one section) where he's managed to defy all logic and be...good for once).[[User:Poliwag06|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06|talk]]) 21:53, 8 December 2024 (EST)

I'm for splitting the Thirteen, for the same reasons Saix gave. If that doesn't work, I think the versions of Alpha Trion should be merged. It's the inconsistency that drives me batty. [[User:Boingus|--Boingus]] ([[User talk:Boingus|talk]]) 22:12, 8 December 2024 (EST)

===Checkpoint? (01/18/2025)===
This topic seems to have gotten as much interaction as it's going to get, so to take stock before it falls off the agenda completely:

:*'''Votes for splitting the Thirteen across the board:''' 4 (Locoman, Saix, BlueJayWarrior, Boingus)
:*'''Votes against:''' 8 (Escargon, Sabrblade, Wadapan, Daytonjhammon, M Sipher, Exim93, Dark T Zeratul, AzimuthAcolyte)

That seems like a pretty resounding 2:1 "no," but the discussion also generated some possible compromises/suggestions for future-proofing:

:*'''Votes for more widespread use of "Conceptual History" sections:''' 3 (Sabrblade, Daytonjhammon, AzimuthAcolyte)
:*'''Votes to merge Alpha Trion (with potential SG suite) for consistency:''' 3 (Sabrblade, AzimuthAcolyte, Boingus)

Lastly it generated some cross-bleed from the debates on [[Talk:The Fallen|The Fallen's talk page]] about some updates now that we're 16 years out from his [[live-action film series]] star turn:

1) Moving the page to "Megatronus":
:*'''For:''' 1 (Dark T Zeratul)
:*'''Against:''' 2 (Sabrblade, M Sipher)

2) Swapping back to a Dreamwave-style mainpic:
:*'''For:''' 3 (Sabrblade, Ezim93, M Sipher)

If anyone wants to try to resuscitate the mega-split speak now. If not, thoughts on the compromise proposals?

The Fallen discussion should probably return to his own page. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 13:33, 18 January 2025 (EST)
:My stances remain unchanged on all of the above. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 13:55, 18 January 2025 (EST)
::I'd be fine with splitting, but if we don't, we ''absolutely'' need to merge the Alpha Trions. There's no good justification for the others being together and him being split.
::As for the Fallen... I feel the need to point out that it's not ''just'' One Megatronus that didn't use the name. EVERY toyline and piece of media in the last decade — RID15, the Prime Wars cartoons, the POTP toy, the offhand mentions in Cyberverse — have used "Megatronus", completely dropping the idea that he stopped being Megatronus and became the Fallen. It's evidently how Hasbro thinks of the character; the Studio Series toy provides plenty of evidence that they ''could'' have just called the AOTP toy "The Fallen" if they'd wanted to. -[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 15:51, 18 January 2025 (EST)
:::I am also pro-merging Alpha Trions with a SG subpage along the lines of what we do for Primus and Unicron. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 16:11, 18 January 2025 (EST)
::::I disagree that we need to put SG Trion on a separate page. Just have his Shattered Glass section open with "In the mirror universe of Shattered Glass, Alpha Trion was..." --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 16:58, 18 January 2025 (EST)
::::I'm pro merging Alpha Trion as well and adding conceptual history. Fallen/Megatronus discussion I'm good with taking back to his page. [[User:Ezim93|Ezim93]] ([[User talk:Ezim93|talk]]) 16:20, 18 January 2025 (EST)

:Here's my 5 cents. We are under no obligation to be consistent with how we treat the members of the Thirteen. If it makes sense for the characters, we can have Alpha Trions on separate pages because he has a long rich history of appearances in wide and varied media, including media in which he is not a member of the Thirteen, and we can also have Amalgamous Prime on one page because he doesn't. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:48, 18 January 2025 (EST)
::I'm in agreement with this. "Consistency" is nice until it isn't, and merging Alpha's pages... isn't. I feel like that's just gonna result in a clusterfuck. "Conceptual history" is fine to add, but frankly I feel like only like... maybe only a third of the 13 would even ''need'' it. There's really not a lot to most of these. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 22:07, 18 January 2025 (EST)
:::I'm curious what would be the negative result of merging Alpha Trion's pages. The thing is that they ''are'' basically all identical barring the Shattered Glass version, and even that one is functionally the same guy, just evil. RID01, Energon, Animated and ROTF Alpha Trion are all footnotes, which just leaves us with G1 Trion (sometimes of the Thirteen), Aligned Trion (of the Thirteen), Cyberverse Trion (of the Thirteen) and One Trion (of the Thirteen). Is there some complicating factor that I'm missing...? --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 22:38, 18 January 2025 (EST)
:::: Honestly, I think this just sold me on the idea of merging all the Alpha Trion pages, including the Shattered Glass version, into one page. A Conceptual History section could explain his development from sage to member of the Thirteen, with a paragraph about his Shattered Glass version. [[User:Daytonjhammon|Daytonjhammon]] ([[User talk:Daytonjhammon|talk]]) 00:02, 19 January 2025 (EST)
:::::As I stated above, I used to be firmly against the idea of the Alpha Trions being merged, because of the facts that he wasn't originally supposed to be one of the Thirteen (a ship that has long since sailed), he was never a singularity like the other 13ers were (which no longer matters at all now since that concept was done away with), and he has a Shattered Glass version (but so too do Primus and Unicron, now, and their pages have set a good workable precedent for how to deal with SG versions of "set dressing characters" like them and the Thirteen). But now, as time goes on, the more it begins to feel like we're just keeping the Alpha Trions separate for more pedantic reasons than are necessary, especially since the AOTP toyline looks to be drawing influence from all continuities for its specific roster of the Thirteen, as if to say that the AOTP toys of the Thirteen represent *all* versions of the Thirteen (meaning AOTP Alpha Trion will represent *all* Alpha Trions).
:::::Sipher mentioned that conceptual history sections would only benefit a small number of the Thirteen, and, well, yes, that is a true statement. But the idea wouldn't be to give ''all'' of the Thirteen conceptual history sections, just the few that would need it. And a merged. But there being only a few that would need it no less diminishes the need of those few.
:::::However, I definitely draw the line at putting SG characters on the same webpages as their non-SG counterparts, as I go back to [https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Talk:Transformers:_Shattered_Glass_(franchise)#Separate_Continuity.3Fthe original discussion about that very subject] and all the reasons given there (particularly from Steve-o, whom I already quoted above) for why SG characters should '''not''' share a webpage with their non-SG counterparts. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 00:47, 19 January 2025 (EST)
::::I feel like "they're all basically the same" is a charge that can be leveled at a lot of characters who are present in multiple continuity families. I'm all in favour of keeping non-entities to one page each, but Alpha Trion meets the threshold for actually having enough detail to have separate articles. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:32, 19 January 2025 (EST)
:My votes: No to splitting the 13 articles, yes for conceptual history, no to merging Trion (maybe expanding his disambig a la Sideways'?), no to moving the Fallen, maybe to changing his mainpic (compare to UT or Aligned characteers with major body changes - UT generally sticks with the Armada bodies, but Aligned favours Prime bodies over WFC). [[User:BattleBlade|BattleBlade]] ([[User talk:BattleBlade|talk]]) 18:01, 18 January 2025 (EST)
:I also think that it wouldn´t be appropriate to separate the pages of the thirteen and that the articles about Alpha Trion should be merged, after he become one of the 13 he has been mostly the same across all media. --[[User:MikeOsix|MikeOsix]] ([[User_talk:MikeOsix|talk]]) 20:57, 18 January 2024 (EST)
My vote is that we should keep Prime pages *mostly* non-split- I do, however, think there is merit to a "Conceptual History" part, going over different variations of the characters over the Years. I originally wanted Alpha's pages to be kept apart- but after some talking, I figure it's best for him to also enjoy a conceptual history rather than a disambiguation page. (I still love Disambiguation pages though.)
On The Fallen's page getting a Dreamwave-style picture: I give it a hard thumbs up. That seems to be the design Hasbro is sticking with compared to the skeleton-furnace guy from the movies. -- [[User:OptiMay Primal|OptiMay Primal]] ([[User talk: BattleBlade|talk]]) 21:54, 18 January 2024 (PST)
:I cannot see any benefit to smushing all of the Alpha Trion articles together. Every time this happens, we get a lengthy, unfocused mess of a page that wards off attempts at maintenance because it's so large. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 12:16, 19 January 2025 (EST)
::I'm personally against merging all the Trions, but I could be convinced if someone sandboxes a merged page first as a proof of concept. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 13:59, 24 January 2025 (EST)
At Cyberlink's suggestion, I've slapped together a rough prototype of a merged Alpha Trion suite broadly mirroring the Fallen's setup that can be seen–
:*'''[[Alpha Trion|HERE]]'''
Intro etc not final, of course. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 16:27, 24 January 2025 (EST)
:I like this. It's no longer or less focused than [[Unicron]], for example. I'm still kind of dubious about the need to exclude Shattered Glass versions from these cross-continuity characters, but at least SG Trion is more substantial than SG Unicron. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 16:31, 24 January 2025 (EST)
:Posting to confirm I'm in favor of this. [[User:Ezim93|Ezim93]] ([[User talk:Ezim93|talk]]) 12:49, 25 January 2025 (EST)
:Yeah I like it too, when so many of his incarnations are so similar the unified article feels more user friendly [[User:LenaPrime|LenaPrime]] ([[User talk:LenaPrime|talk]]) 12:57, 25 January 2025 (EST)
:Adding that I think this works pretty well. - [[User:IGEBM13|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13|talk]]) 18:42, 25 January 2025 (EST)
:Thought I'd stick my two cents in. I think this would work. If Unicron can have a merged page like this, then it should certainly work for Trion. [[User:Hilfam|Hilfam]] ([[User talk:Hilfam|talk]]) 23:44, 25 January 2025 (EST)
I've also started working on prototypes of rewrites / updates to Prima and The Fallen's pages, which can be seen...
:*'''[[User:Daytonjhammon/Sandbox/Prima|HERE for Prima]]''' and '''[[User:Daytonjhammon/Sandbox/The Fallen|HERE for The Fallen]]'''.
Discussion for The Fallen should probably stay on his [[Talk:The Fallen|own talk page]], but I'm linking them here since both have "conceptual history" sections I've drafted up. [[User:Daytonjhammon|Daytonjhammon]] ([[User talk:Daytonjhammon|talk]]) 13:50, 26 January 2025 (EST)

===Checkpoint 2 (05/05/2025)===
This definitely fell way off the agenda but there was sufficient interest that I believe it is worth circling back. Following Dayton's excellent work on Prima and the Fallen's Conceptual History section going live, the final point of order remains the prospect of merging Alpha Trion (with SG suite) to reflect his Aligned-forward characterization and bring him in line with the other 12 + 2 (Thirteen, Primus, Unicron) "man-shaped set dressing" characters.

Again, a full mock-up of this concept can be seen-

:*'''[[Alpha Trion|HERE]]'''

The current tally stands at:

:*'''Votes for merging Alpha Trion into one cross-continuity article with SG sub-page:''' 12 (Sabrblade, AzimuthAcolyte, Boingus, Broadside, Escargon, Ezim93, Daytonjhammon, MikeOsix, OptiMay Primal, LenaPrime, IGEBM13, Hilfam)
:*'''Votes against:''' 5 (abates, M Sipher, BattleBlade, Saix, Cyberlink420)

That's overwhelming support a ways past 2:1. Does anyone care to answer a last call for comment?

Suggestions or concerns for the prototype are particularly welcome. For my part I would appreciate assistance drafting a Conceptual History section. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 14:18, 5 May 2025 (EDT)
: Chipping in to reiterate that I'm in favour, though I'm unconvinced that the SG subpage is necessary. I do recognise that it's in line with how we currently treat Unicron, but like... is there anything we gain from having it be a separate page that we couldn't get from just putting "in one mirror universe, alpha trion was a real sicko!" at the top of the section? --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 18:20, 6 May 2025 (EDT)
::On principle alone, I'm against putting SG characters on the same pages as their non-SG counterparts, no matter what. The day we make such allowance for just one of them is the day we open the floodgates for potentially doing that for any and all SG characters. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 19:54, 6 May 2025 (EDT)
:::The (SG) system is simple. What exactly does messing with it accomplish? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 20:28, 8 May 2025 (EDT)
::::See, my understanding was not that SG characters are "special exceptions", it's that we treat Shattered Glass as its own continuity family (and likewise SG Animated, et al). It's not "messing with" the system to put the SG version of a character on a cross-continuity family page for that character. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 16:53, 13 May 2025 (EDT)
:::::It's messing with what Thylacine mentions for the sake of insisting on making categorization exceptions for the Thirteen. It's not useful to either editor or reader, especially if we're going to do the pointless lateral move that is "/Shattered Glass" anyway. (SG) is straightforward and easy to parse as opposed to "here's the explicitly negative AU guy buried here because arbitrary wiki reasons". [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 18:42, 13 May 2025 (EDT)
:::Looks like it doesn't matter anymore, but the difference between SG and non-SG material - the whole fact that SG exists to be an irreconcilable opposite to G1 - is more fundamental and important than the sum total of all appearances and history of at least 10 of the 13. We should not be wiping away important conceptual distinctions for the sake of unimportant asterisk characters who basically only ever existed in a list. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 16:59, 13 May 2025 (EDT)

== International Sightings ==

So, as of late, mentions of "toy appeared in (non-US country) without prior announcement" type lines have been getting purged from the wiki. This makes me wonder: am I allowed to even mention them anymore when a new toy appears somewhere? I'm not really sure why these relatively harmless information lines are getting removed, nor am I really a fan of it, but if I can't mention them anymore I will happily oblige.[[User:Poliwag06|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06|talk]]) 21:04, 7 January 2025 (EST)
:They're being removed because "toy first showed up at a random store in Asia" is not useful information. That's how toy retail has worked for decades. Hasbro deigning to announce some product doesn't make it the standard. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 22:57, 7 January 2025 (EST)
::Oh, ok, I'll keep that in mind from now on.[[User:Poliwag06|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06|talk]]) 23:11, 7 January 2025 (EST)

==First revealed at (some regular online update)==
On a similar note to the international sightings, what do people think of "toy was first revealed in Hasbro Instagram post / Fans First Friday / Pulse livestream of whatever date," etc.? We note this constantly, because it's another fact to include about a just-announced toy nobody owns yet. A year later it looks unimportant. Is this something we like and value, or more of a space-filing habit? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 07:34, 8 January 2025 (EST)
:I think it's a lot of blather, but at least it's documenting Hasbro marketing as opposed to random retail appearances. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 09:25, 8 January 2025 (EST)
: I'm lukewarm at best on 'em. But often these announcements are followed up almost immediately by pre-orders opening up through official channels, and that feels a bit more... noteworthy. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 12:31, 8 January 2025 (EST)
: Seems pretty relevant to me! There's value in preserving a toy's history, after all. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 10:14, 6 April 2025 (EDT))

==Update Navigation==
Should the Navigation sidebar be changed to replace [[Transformers: Legacy|Legacy]] with [[Transformers: Age of the Primes|Age of the Primes]] or should we wait a bit?--[[User:CyclonustheWarrior|CyclonustheWarrior]] ([[User talk:CyclonustheWarrior|talk]]) 20:49, 2 February 2025 (EST)
:Good question. I think we could change it now since almost all of wave 1 is out at retail over in Asia, but I’ll wait for someone higher than me to make the final decision lol - [[User:IGEBM13|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13|talk]]) 23:10, 5 February 2025 (EST)

==Adding a "Transformers in [Country name]" section to country articles==
So, by some weird coincidence, a lot of my edits in these past months have involved expanding on the quirks of how individual aspects of the Transformers brand were represented in countries like [[Brazil]], [[Argentina]], [[Greece]], and [[Portugal]] - however; something that I've noticed is that there's usually no comprehensive summary of this information in the actual pages we have for those countries, with most or all of it being restricted to the individual articles regarding those things instead (for instance; Argentina had a whole three companies that produced Transformers toys with [[Antex]], [[Comando Toys]], and [[Lynsa]], but none of them are even mentioned in Argentina's page!). As such, and in the spirit of making our wiki more international, I propose that we add a small section to every country page specifically regarding the presence of the Transformers brand within it.

Some information that could go into these sections, if available (naturally, not ''everything'' here needs to be mentioned):
* When Transformers media first premiered in the country
* When Transformers toys first released in the country
* Previous releases of [[pre-Transformers]] in the country, if any (e.g.; Italy's ''Trasformer'', the UK's ''Convertors'', Finland's ''Diaclone'', etc.)
* Brands that might have made toys or merchandise for Transformers in the country, if any (e.g.; [[Estrela]] in Brazil, [[IGA]] in Mexico, [[GiG]] in Italy, [[El Greco]] in Greece, etc.)
* Notable figures, variants, and/or entire toylines that are exclusive to the country, if any (obviously, a fully comprehensive list would be difficult for a country like Japan, but it seems feasible for others here.)
* Transformers media that's unique to the country, if any (again; it would be hard to form a comprehensive list for Japan or the US, but it might not be too difficult elsewhere.)
* Peculiar quirks and factoids regarding the distribution of Transformers toys in the country, if any (e.g.; Galaxy Shuttle releasing in Italy, Star Saber releasing in Portugal, Spain's translated G1 blister cards, [[Sonokong]]'s many odd releases of Transformers toys in South Korea, etc.)
* Transformers-connected artists that were born in the country (e.g.; Brazil's [[Marcelo Matere]], Spain's [[José Avilés]], etc.)
* Perhaps some notable aspects of the fandom in the country (e.g., fan organizations, conventions - whether they're [[Convention|official]] or [[Unofficial conventions|unofficial]] - etc.)

Editing these sections could also make for a pretty fun multinational effort: certainly, Transformers fans from all over the world have pretty unique knowledge about the brand in their regions that's undocumented until now, and it would be pretty cool for them to visit the pages for their respective countries and see a section that basically invites them to add that knowledge. If this idea seems acceptable then I would be happy to move ahead with introducing the section to some of the countries that I'm most familiar with (mostly in Europe and Latin America) - let me know what everyone else thinks! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 10:07, 6 April 2025 (EDT))
:I like this idea! I think it’ll be really helpful for both readers and the site’s general organization to have information about international Transformers products and media on their respective countries’ pages. I’m not too well-versed in the foreign aspects of the brand outside of Japan, but I do know one piece of information we can add to Russia’s page is that ''Masterforce'' was the first show to air there :D - [[User:IGEBM13|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13|talk]]) 10:47, 6 April 2025 (EDT)
::I had no idea about that, how interesting! Hopefully more people can give the go-ahead to this. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 11:04, 6 April 2025 (EDT))
:::This strikes me as a proposal with a lot potential if we can get enough manpower behind it. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 17:00, 6 April 2025 (EDT)
:I've made versions of this proposed section for the Portugal, Spain, and Brazil pages, and posted them on [[User:FortressMaxxing/Sandbox|my sandbox]]. Any thoughts would be welcome! Also, shouldn't we maybe add the country flags to their respective pages? The Wikipedia SVGs are on public domain, so I guess we could just import those. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 09:43, 7 April 2025 (EDT))
::I like the way these early write-ups look, it could prove very interesting. Though we should only add the country flags if they appeared in fiction, as we do with the [[Soviet Union]] or [[United States of America]]. Otherwise it's just not important. Every country has a flag, you don't need to come ''here'' to look at them or find out their capital cities, populations, national birds, etc. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 11:01, 7 April 2025 (EDT)
:::I mean, if we're also to discuss the "meta" details of Transformers in the country - meaning that the pages are no longer restricted to just fiction - then I think it makes sense to at least have a country flag up on the opening paragraph, no? I'm not saying we need to add an Wikipedia-like infobox with the capital and population count and whatever else, but if we also have stuff like logos for companies in their respective pages then it makes sense to at least have what's basically the largest and most important international identifier that a country has attached to a page about it. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 11:29, 7 April 2025 (EDT))
:Given how there seem to be no objections to this project, I hope that it's fine to begin adding these sections to their respective pages during this weekend. I have added entries for Argentina, Italy, and Greece [[User:FortressMaxxing/Sandbox|to my sandbox]], so, together with the other three I previously shared; that will be six "The Transformers franchise in X country" sections coming from me - hopefully others will also be interested in adding similar sections to the pages of whatever countries they're most familiar with! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 18:37, 11 April 2025 (EDT))
::I think the names could be simplified to "Transformers in X". [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 19:51, 11 April 2025 (EDT)
:::That was actually close to the previous name I had in this topic ("The Transformers in X") before renaming it because I thought it could be a little ambiguous, haha - but actually, I think you're right, "Transformers in Brazil" / "Transformers in Greece" / etc. does sound better and I guess all the ambiguities are kinda cleared up in context of the contents of the sections themselves! "Transformers in X" it shall be then, I've now again renamed this topic accordingly. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 20:06, 11 April 2025 (EDT))
::::Yeah, it could be an ambiguous statement by itself, but we're not making "Transformers in Brazil" for all the fictional times Transformers characters appeared in Brazil because that's already covered by [[Brazil]] itself. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 20:29, 11 April 2025 (EDT)
:Ayo, I posted the first batch of "Transformers in X" sections a few days ago in the [[Portugal]], [[Spain]], [[Italy]], [[Greece]], [[Brazil]], and [[Argentina]] pages! There are still way more countries that need a similar level of development and since I won't be able to do all of them alone, I wanted to highlight at least the most important ones in the hopes that maybe other users will have an interest in working on them. So, here are '''the pages that most urgently need a "Transformers in X" section''' (plus '''some of the things they should mention'''):

* [[Japan]], obviously: The birth of the transforming robot as a Japanese cultural product (see [[Yonezawa Toys|Yonezawa]] and some of the later transforming robot toys leading up to Takara's Cosmo Countach and eventually the Diaclone Car Robots), the country's transition from Diaclone to Transformers, the introduction of the original show to Japan, a brief mention of the original media and toylines that were only released there, an assessment of the popularity of the franchise in Japan relative to other 'giant robot'-centric media like Gundam and NGE (Also, I've noticed that there is already a small "non-fiction" section that briefly touches on the importance of Japan to the Transformers: it could be used as a starting basis, and I guess that it also suggests someone already had the idea for a similar wiki-project!)
* The [[United States of America|United States]], also quite obviously: Brief summarization of the birth and sustained popularity of the Transformers brand in America, the most prominent retail exclusives that were only launched in U.S. stores, BotCon and all the other big fan conventions
<s>* [[United Kingdom]]: Received a pair of pre-Transformers toylines with the Grandstand Convertors and Tandy's Galactic Man, the UK Marvel Transformers comic, large conventions like TFNation and TFUKcon</s> '''(Done!)'''
* [[France]]: Received a pre-Transformers toyline with [[Joustra|Ceji / Joustra]] releasing Diaclone, Orli Jouet's Robotrack, later Joustra-made G1 Transformers toys, original cartoon had a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itPo0Q9zmrc|a pretty funky unique theme song], major national toy company [[Majorette]] would briefly become a Transformers licensee in the 2000s
* [[Finland]]: Received a pre-Transformers toyline with Takara directly releasing Diaclone, "black Tracks" was unique to it (and later homaged with [[Loudpedal]])
* [[China]]: Hasbro factories, the Chinese G1 reissue toyline, the commercial success of Age of Extinction and how it brought about a sharp rise in the popularity of Transformers across the country, [[Nezha: Transformers (franchise)|Nezha]]
* [[South Korea]]: The unusual line-ups of [[Young Toys]] and [[Sonokong]], the mystery of [[ToonTown]]
* [[Mexico]]: [[IGA]] and their unique variants of G1 figures
* [[Venezuela]] (which somehow doesn't exist yet despite [[Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 17|already having an in-fiction mention]]?): [[Rubiplas]] made some unique Mini-Vehicles
<s>* [[Peru]]: [[Lynsa]] released multiple unique Mini-Vehicles in both countries, Museo Transformers</s> '''(Done!)'''
* [[Chile]]: Also received [[Lynsa]] Mini-Vehicles
* [[Vietnam]]: Major manufacturing hub for Transformers toys '''(Work in progress)'''
* [[Germany]]: GAMA's "Trans Robot" (pre-Transformers Omega Supreme), had the biggest Transformers convention in continental Europe until it dissolved not too long ago

:On an unrelated note, check out these fancy new GoBoxes down below! If anyone wants to do more in this style (quirky collage of country flag, plus national iconography, plus a Transformer toy that's emblematic of that specific country in some way) then that'd be pretty sweet! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 17:47, 16 April 2025 (EDT))
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::Hey, I noticed that a lot of your claims aren't really sourced, it would be nice if you could cite your sources for us. [[User:Wildstrike|Wildstrike]] ([[User talk:Wildstrike|talk]]) 08:01, 21 April 2025 (EDT)
:::For sure! A lot of what's been added to these pages isn't cited because it is already discussed at greater length in their respective articles (and usually cited in said articles) - nonetheless; I will go ahead and add a more extensive round of sources soon. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 12:54, 21 April 2025 (EDT))
:::: Great! Remember to post about that here when it happens. [[User:Wildstrike|Wildstrike]] ([[User talk:Wildstrike|talk]]) 13:45, 21 April 2025 (EDT)
::::: All done, I've provided as many citations for whatever information's more obscure or not as well-documented in the English web as I could! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 16:21, 21 April 2025 (EDT))
:::::: Thank you! I appreciate it, though I have noticed that your source about Portuguese people seeing Star Convoy on retail is only available to members of the Facebook group. I understand that information for things like this is hard to come by so if can't change it it's alright but it would be great if you could list a publicly available source instead. [[User:Wildstrike|Wildstrike]] ([[User talk:Wildstrike|talk]]) 08:58, 22 April 2025 (EDT)
::::::: Oops, I didn't realize that Transformers Portugal was private on Facebook - but let this not be a problem, because I've just added a translated screenshot to that citation instead! Although I must also add that, unfortunately, I don't know how to really cite the later portion of that trivia - that Star Convoy is also really common on the Portuguese secondary market - because this is basically the product of my own personal experience of living in Portugal and seeing at least four loose Star Convoys on the Portuguese secondary market in the past couple of years across various occasions, all of them being the original version with the white trailer rather than the later reissue (thus suggesting that they come from the aforementioned retail distribution), and all of them being sold for really cheap prices rounding just ~20-40 euros from people who clearly did not know about this being an unusual toy (I got one myself one circa ~2022!). It's just that I frankly didn't know how to cite this in the page (Would "[[User:FortressMaxxing|This editor]] can attest to seeing an inordinate amount of Portuguese Star Convoy copies on the secondary market" be too anecdotal of a reference to have?), so... There's that. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 13:04, 22 April 2025 (EDT))
:::::::: Don't worry, the fist citation should be enough, now's the time to move on to the rest of the countries. I'm a bit busy at the moment but I might be able to take on the UK write up. [[User:Wildstrike|Wildstrike]] ([[User talk:Wildstrike|talk]]) 13:53, 22 April 2025 (EDT)
::::::::: Sweet, I'll be excited to see what you write up! Tell us here when you do :) ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 13:58, 22 April 2025 (EDT))
:I made a first draft of the UK write-up at my sandbox [[User:Wildstrike/Sandbox/United_Kingdom|here]]. It is not at all done I'm passing this through the people to make sure I didn't get anything wrong, and to hear out any suggestions. Also I didn't mention the Tandy's Galactic Man figure because it doesn't seem to be exclusive to to the UK. [[User:Wildstrike|Wildstrike]] ([[User talk:Wildstrike|talk]]) 11:14, 26 April 2025 (EDT)
::Hey, it's good, short but very well-cited! I do think Galactic Man merits at least a brief one-line mention since apparently the UK was the only other territory beyond the U.S. where it was released in (and also the UK Galactic Man might be slightly different, per how the pre-TF page describes him as [[Pre-Transformers#Pre-Transformers lines|"''almost'' identical"]]?), but otherwise, I have no disagreement with the information presented here. Very curious to see how you're gonna expand on that draft! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 18:46, 27 April 2025 (EDT))
:::Okay, I did a bit of research and according to the [https://astromagnum.blogspot.com/2024/04/galactic-man-tandy-radio-shack-shackwave.html Astro Magnum] blog the Tandy version of Galactic Man has slightly different packaging, different stickers, and is made of materials more resistant to the yellowing prevalent in the Radio Shack versions of the toy. I'll be sure to edit the draft when I have time. Also, I found about an [https://batterseapowerstation.co.uk/retailers/transformers/ official transformers store] at the Battersea power station which I plan on incorporating at some point. [[User:Wildstrike|Wildstrike]] ([[User talk:Wildstrike|talk]]) 11:49, 28 April 2025 (EDT)
:Ooohh, here's a pretty cool thing that I found out which definitely should be added to the Peru page: there's a mall [https://www.facebook.com/MuseoTF with a Transformers toy museum within it], and apparently it's been in operation since 2020! It even features a display specifically for [https://scontent.flis9-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/483676983_1040341464571272_305592738604936521_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=OsCqdAxWZTQQ7kNvwGe1-WQ&_nc_oc=Adn6enKyI9P6hsp1VO2t492l7iu8t1CtWQCm3bbMYXOemGAOpKTj-0fB96Co-Jhqnm4&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.flis9-1.fna&_nc_gid=0aKRlr6ClLSdhzhjlFM8cA&oh=00_AfFq1ClChLr67ItyZAhHBe0MPRKxcrRFUfQLY48v0THRPA&oe=68149CCC Transformers stuff made in Peru], which I think would be a great photographic addition to the article :) ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 20:36, 27 April 2025 (EDT))

:I've finally expanded my write-up (link [[User:Wildstrike/Sandbox/United_Kingdom|here]]), and would like to receive comment on it if possible. As for the ''Transformers'' store I mentioned above, I'm not quite sure how to incorporate it into the rest of the article and am debating just leaving it in the notes section. [[User:Wildstrike|Wildstrike]] ([[User talk:Wildstrike|talk]]) 12:06, 30 May 2025 (EDT)
::Hey, sorry for taking so long to review it but it's good! I think the Transformers store can be added as its own small (even if one-line) paragraph in the section, no need to throw it all the way down to notes when it's a definitely pretty relevant to the history of Transformers in the UK. Regardless, I'd say it's time to go live with that section! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 00:24, 12 June 2025 (EDT))
:::It's finally live baby! As you may have noticed, I decided to expand the section a little bit more and mention some of the other British people that have worked on Transformers over the years as well as [[BotCon Europe 1999]], I hope you're happy with all the changes. — [[User:Wildstrike|Wildstrike]] ([[User talk:Wildstrike|talk]]) 15:05, 12 June 2025 (EDT)
:Per recent edits, I'm scratching out the UK and Peru pages off the list, as they now also have proper "Transformers in [Country]" sections (great job on the UK one by the way, it's pretty extensive and rich in information and I feel like I learned quite a few new things with it!). I also added Germany and Vietnam to the list, so if any TF fans from those nationalities are around to see this some help in filling those out wold be greatly appreciated! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 08:22, 18 June 2025 (EDT))

== Size of this page ==

Could someone archive the last year on this page? It's getting ridiculously long and is hard to scroll through. [[User:Hilfam|Hilfam]] ([[User talk:Hilfam|talk]]) 19:48, 15 April 2025 (EDT)
:Done. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 20:25, 15 April 2025 (EDT)

== ToonTown / Korean Transformers that might or might not be bootlegs ==
Hey, so... What do we do about [https://x.com/tfwiki/status/1036114311142363136?lang=ar this], and [https://lmb3.net/2024/12/29/blog-2500-toy-review-transformers-korean-modified-optimus-prime/ this], and [https://tformers.com/daily-prime-korean-generation-2-optimus-prime-gold-watch/43599/news.html this], and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYJ8Nev7DGo this]? It basically seems like there's a massive ambiguity as to whether or not these toys are bootlegs, and while at least one of them (see the recently-edited "Globo" section on the [[knockoff]] page) has distinct bootleg origins, it's also worth remembering that there is [[Radio AM Robot|at least one known case of a bootleg being later rebranded into an official Transformers toy]], so... Maybe this is not much of an indicator?

In the replies to that first tweet, there's a person who says that "[https://x.com/tfwiki/status/1036114311142363136/ Hasbro's legal stance is that if it has their copyright on the box, it is an official product. This is what they've told me in the past when inquiring about other products]". Assuming that this is the case, and given that all of these have a Hasbro copyright on their packaging despite how genuinely weird they are, should we add them to their respective character pages, as well as maybe creating a separate page for ToonTown as a Transformers-associated company? The [[Soundwave (G1)/merchandise#Transformers Gum|Soundwave]] and [[Starscream (G1)/merchandise#Transformers Gum|Starscream]] ''Transformers Gum'' tabs already mention their ToonTown releases, so it seems like it kind of follows to add the others, no? I've left them a mention on the knockoff page as of now, but it would be good to get a final decision as to where exactly they should stay on this wiki. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 21:58, 19 April 2025 (EDT))
:Decades ago, [[Raksha]] wrote that the Toon Town stuff had been released in both South Korea and Taiwan (https://web.archive.org/web/20080917123934fw_/http://www.plumed-serpent.com/swartifacts.html). Added to what you wrote above, I believe that is the sum of all the knowledge we have on the issue, so it would be hard to write an article about it. I agree that since we have the Soundwave and Starscream stuff, the other confirmed releases are fair game to include too. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 15:18, 7 May 2025 (EDT)
::Here's another one, this time not saying Toon Town, still showing the "real" logos and symbols, and said by its owner to be a knockoff: https://toy-wizards.com/2019/03/16/super-rare-korean-transformers-toys-at-tf-con-and-the-conspiracy-theory-behind-them/?amp I'm really drawing a blank on Toon Town and it is possible we will never get enough verified info to be worth an article here. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 18:53, 7 May 2025 (EDT)
:::One more source for now: http://fredsworkshop.com/vkorea.html --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 18:57, 7 May 2025 (EDT)

::::Argh, another, and with even more links at the bottom, and were no closer to a conclusive truth. http://fredsworkshop.com/vkorea5.html --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 19:05, 7 May 2025 (EDT)
:::::For what it's worth, I think it'd be good to have a page laying out the ambiguity of the matter, explaining what we know and how hard to verify it all is. Sorta like the [[unknown Generation 1 animation studios]]. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 19:35, 7 May 2025 (EDT)
:::::: Yeah, I'd agree with this. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 20:45, 7 May 2025 (EDT)
::::::: Seconding this, it seems like we have more than enough to at least create an article about this weird company that explains the ambiguity. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 01:15, 8 May 2025 (EDT))
:Alright, as per the above discussion, the [[ToonTown]] article is now up! I didn't go over every source mentioned here yet and therefore still haven't added every ToonTown-branded figure to it (and neither to the character pages, the currently existing wikilinks just to go their broader toy sections for now), but hopefully this is a good start. Would love to see your contributions to this page, if you have any to give! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 09:09, 8 May 2025 (EDT))
::Update, the remaining ToonTown toys and merchandise that I could find has also been added. Turn out to be a shorter affair than expected! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 09:53, 8 May 2025 (EDT))
:::Thank you for setting this up so quickly! I am doing my best to state very clearly that these might or might not be legit, that if they're knockoffs they aren't like your typical ones... The last thing I'd ever want would be for this wiki to give people the sense that fake stuff was real, but we can present the nebulous case and leave it to readers to judge. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 10:58, 8 May 2025 (EDT)
::::All good! This is just such an interesting case that it does really feel like it needs to be in the wiki insofar as we don't know whether or not they're fake. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 11:07, 8 May 2025 (EDT))
::Hey, Google Lens led me to the discovery of another ToonTown oddity and I'd love some community help in finding out more about it before it's added into the article: [https://m.blog.naver.com/eoiipp/130144214329 This Optimus Prime model kit] doesn't appear to be based on any Kabaya / Transformers Gum kit that I know of (and the Transformers Gum section on the Optimus merchandise page says that his ToonTown kit comes as a pack-in with Starscream rather than being a standalone like this one), and in fact; he actually looks to be fairly sizable and complex compared to the usual Kabaya affair. On [https://m.totoy.com/product/%EB%AF%B8%EB%8B%B4%EC%82%B0%EC%97%85-%ED%8A%B8%EB%9E%9C%EC%8A%A4%ED%8F%AC%EB%A8%B8-g2-%EB%A1%9C%EB%B4%87-%ED%8A%B8%EB%A0%88%EC%9D%BC%EB%9F%AC-%EC%98%B5%ED%8B%B0%EB%A8%B8%EC%8A%A4-%ED%94%84%EB%9D%BC%EC%9E%84/5333/ this listing] for the same kit, you can zoom in and see what seems to be the usual ToonTown / 3D Licensing International markings, but most importantly; both of those links identify him as being made by a company called "Midam Industry" which even seems to have its own unique logo on the upper right corner of the toys (albeit it's pretty difficult to make out with how low-res all these pictures are), but that I can't find anything about them on the web. Does anyone know more about this Midam Industry Optimus, as well as maybe potentially being aware of other kits from the same series? Cheers! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 16:46, 8 May 2025 (EDT))
:::After searching for a little while, I believe that this is, in fact, the only Transformers kit released by Midam Industry (although it has a handful of variants!), thus; it - as well as a Midam Industry entry - has been added to their respective pages. I've taken the liberty to classify it as a toy rather than a piece of merchandise since it is, for the standards of a Transformers model kit, actually a fairly elaborate and fully-transforming model that doesn't really seem to count as "merchandise" in the same way that Transformers Gum stuff does (it doesn't even come with any food!) - hopefully others will be in agreement on this. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 19:16, 8 May 2025 (EDT))
::::And, just as I thought I was done with editing the ToonTown page for the day, I realized that the packaging for these kits advertises other kits, even though no pictures of those seem to be available. Aw well, duty calls... ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 19:31, 8 May 2025 (EDT))

== Proposing a "The Transformers (Latin American toylines)" page ==
So the title is self-explanatory, but basically; I've noticed that our Generation 1 navbox is missing the many, many Latin American Transformers G1 toylines like those produced by [[Estrela]], [[Antex]], [[Lynsa]], [[IGA]], etc. Since there might be way too many for them to all to be individually listed in the navbox, and since we already have the "[[The Transformers (toyline)]]" (for the US toyline), "[[The Transformers (European toyline)]]", "[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1 (Japanese toyline)]]", and "[[The Transformers (Chinese toyline)]]" pages all on the navbox, shouldn't we also make a "The Transformers (Latin American toylines)" page where we list all of the known releases from the various Latin American toylines, with the eventual addition of some "Main article" tags for the manufacturers of each of those toylines? ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 19:49, 24 April 2025 (EDT))
:I don't think the toyline or name was consistent across Latin America, so it would be more "Generation 1 toylines in Latin America"?
::That's fair, it is true that most of them removed the 'The' prefix and were usually just called ''Transformers''. Since we don't use the ''The Transformers'' name for the Japanese toyline page then it does make sense to also not use it in this instance. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 22:33, 24 April 2025 (EDT))
:[[Generation 1 toylines in Latin America|Page has been made!]] ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 17:17, 25 April 2025 (EDT))

== Free Comic Book Day Worst Bot Ever preview ==

I know it’s standard procedure not to create articles for comic issues until the issue actually comes out, even if a small preview is officially released online. But I’m wondering if the Ballpoint preview issue should be an exception? It is just the online page preview Skybound put out a few months ago (I believe with a couple new pages), but since it is an officially released physical comic issue that new fans will be picking up and wanting to research, I figure there’s an argument to create the article now with what we know and simply update it when the graphic novel proper comes out. For now, the article would cover what’s in the FCBD issue, and when it comes out proper we’d add to/replace it with a full synopsis and include a note about how the first 16 pages were released on FCBD. Thoughts? [[User:Cylasbreakdown|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown|talk]]) 16:58, 3 May 2025 (EDT)

== Shattered Glass and cross-continuity-family pages ==

Felt like this was worth being discussed in its own section, so: at present, [[Unicron]], [[Primus]] and [[Alpha Trion]] all have dedicated "Shattered Glass" subpages suited out. They're unique in this respect; every other page for concepts that span multiple continuity families keep the Shattered Glass versions on the same page as everything else. A good example is [[Spark]]; even though Embers have a different name and are supposedly fundamentally different in the mirror universe, they still share a page. If we're going to treat Unicron, Primus and the Thirteen like cross-continuity concepts, rather than how we treat most characters, then I don't think we should make an exception to that for Shattered Glass.

To be clear, '''this is NOT proposing that we merge all Shattered Glass characters into their G1 counterparts'''. My position is that Shattered Glass is its own continuity family, and so we keep their pages separate, and I don't think there's something special about Shattered Glass that makes it an exception to what we're doing with the cross-continuity pages. Input would be appreciated. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 16:52, 14 May 2025 (EDT)
: I agree. Especially because Primus and Unicron have about a paragraph's worth of information on them each. [[User:Locoman|Locoman]] ([[User talk:Locoman|talk]]) 18:21, 14 May 2025 (EDT)
: SG is different enough that the character pages should be separated somehow. Otherwise it’d be jarring for those unfamiliar with SG to have the one batshit crazy evil Alpha Trion in and amongst all the nice ones. Personally, I’m on the same boat as Sabrblade back up in the Thirteen discussion from a few months ago. I think suite pages are a useful tool, not a necessary evil. It’s somewhat subjective, but I can see suite pages used in this way for other cross-continuity concepts where one universe diverges far enough from the norm. [[User:Cylasbreakdown|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown|talk]]) 18:49, 15 May 2025 (EDT)
::Moreso than one crazy evil [[Star Saber (G1)|Star Saber]] in and among all the nice ones? I don't think you're giving readers enough credit, frankly. If we opened the section "In one mirror universe, Alpha Trion was not a kindly mentor, but a cruel manipulator" I don't think anyone would think twice. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 22:25, 15 May 2025 (EDT)
:::Touché. [[User:Cylasbreakdown|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown|talk]]) 02:04, 16 May 2025 (EDT)
:I was waiting to weigh in until the Alpha Trion merge was fully complete, but I now feel comfortable saying this strikes me as basically reasonable, both conceptually and in terms of the small volume of material involved. The Fallen's [[The Fallen#Shattered Glass|''Shattered Glass'' content]] is already folded into his main page by necessity, after all. I do think people might feel less skittish if we more clearly telegraphed that the 13+2 were unique character/concept article hybrids not to be used as precedent down the food chain. Maybe something like:
::* Category:Concept-Characters
::*With a description like, "These subjects act as facets of the ''Transformers'' brand's baseline worldbuilding first and characters in their own right second. For the defunct fictional concept riffing on this phenomenon, see [[multiversal singularity]]."
:Is that anything? --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 18:20, 26 May 2025 (EDT)
::I like that idea. - [[User:IGEBM13|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13|talk]]) 20:52, 26 May 2025 (EDT)
:::Seems like an excellent idea to me! --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 00:07, 27 May 2025 (EDT)
::::Yeah, seems alright for now. However, I do think it's worth having some kind of plan in place in case a concept-character winds up getting expanded on in the future. — [[User:Wildstrike|Wildstrike]] ([[User talk:Wildstrike|talk]]) 04:50, 2 June 2025 (EDT)
::::: I do like the category idea. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 18:51, 5 June 2025 (EDT)
Last call for objections before I go ahead with this? --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 16:01, 12 June 2025 (EDT)
:I think there's an exception to be made for Alpha Trion, as the SG page is pretty long, and still incomplete, but otherwise, yeah; was surprised by how short SG Primus and Unicron's articles are. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] ([[User talk:Alientraveller|talk]]) 16:24, 12 June 2025 (EDT)
:: It's not very long compared to the rest of the page, especially considering the toys are already on Trion's toys page. I feel like if we were gonna split a section off for length reasons it'd be Generation 1. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 20:55, 12 June 2025 (EDT)

== Interwiki link request ==

Having reached another milestone in my ongoing project to document the non-''Transformers'' [[back-up strips]] printed in the Marvel UK book, I'd like to request that tfuk.app (<tt><nowiki>https://tfuk.app/wiki/$1</nowiki></tt>) gets added to the interwiki table. Thanks. [[User:TheLastGherkin|TheLastGherkin]] ([[User talk:TheLastGherkin|talk]]) 11:11, 20 May 2025 (EDT)
:Goddamn, this is an incredible amount of work: more than being added to the interwiki table, it frankly feels worthy of being pinned into the "sister wikis" section on the opening page. Great job! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 12:08, 20 May 2025 (EDT))
::Seconding Fortress on front page sister wiki status, frankly. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 12:31, 20 May 2025 (EDT)
::Thirded on adding it to the sister wikis list, that’s amazing. - [[User:IGEBM13|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13|talk]]) 16:07, 20 May 2025 (EDT)
::Fourthing! -- [[User:DannyBoy|DannyBoy]] ([[User talk:DannyBoy|talk]]) 10:19, 21 May 2025 (EDT)
:That seems eminently reasonable: [[tfuk:Main Page|The Transformers UK Appendix]] --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:15, 20 May 2025 (EDT)
::Thank you! [[User:TheLastGherkin|TheLastGherkin]] ([[User talk:TheLastGherkin|talk]]) 17:32, 20 May 2025 (EDT)

== Skybound’s Marvel compendium edits ==

So I’ve got Skybound’s [[The Transformers Compendium Volume 1]] in hand and am reading it. I was under the impression that Skybound was, for the most part, just using IDW’s Classics reprint with maybe some polish here and there, but comparing Skybound’s version to the wiki notes about IDW classics edits, there are actually several changes from those that are going to need to be noted on each issue’s article. (For instance, the Wheeljack/Hoist panel comparison on [[I, Robot-Master!]] has a new color scheme to add to it.) Are we gonna want to make a new section on each article underneath the “Classics edits” one? Are we gonna want to wait until the Kickstarter-exclusive versions come out so we can do it all at once? (I’m just talking about differences I’ve noticed while ''skimming'' articles; I imagine there are lots more. This is the first time I’ve read the comic and thus I don’t have originals/IDW reprints to directly compare to. Just something I wanted to bring to your guys’ attention.) [[User:Cylasbreakdown|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown|talk]]) 02:04, 1 June 2025 (EDT)
:Making a new section under "Classics Edits" seems like the best move. As for the second question, I feel it would be best if we started making note of the changes now so that there will be less work to when the Kickstarter exclusives do release. — [[User:Wildstrike|Wildstrike]] ([[User talk:Wildstrike|talk]]) 04:58, 2 June 2025 (EDT)

== Continuity of origin listings? ==
I happened to see the [[Sentius Magnus]] and [[Sentius Malus]], and that sent me looking to see if there were any other new characters unique to [[Transformers: Earth Wars|Earth Wars]]. When I couldn't find any such listing, I realized I don't think we have any real way to identify original characters by their original continuity. Might it make sense to have, say, categories for brand-new characters that originated in each continuity? i.e. "Earth Wars original characters" or "IDW 2005 original characters" or "Marvel comics original characters", etc? Or, if not categories, some way of compiling that information?<br>Also, to be clear, I wouldn't consider characters that began as toys to be original to whatever fiction they first appeared in; this would just be for the likes of the aforementioned Sentius twins, or [[Xaaron]], or [[Devcon (G1)|Devcon]], or [[Tarn (G1)|Tarn]]. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 06:29, 16 June 2025 (EDT)
:I think that would be a good idea, and very helpful organization-wise. (Also, you’re correct in that there are no other TFEW-original characters beyond maybe SB Optimus Prime and SB Megatron.) - [[User:IGEBM13|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13|talk]]) 09:09, 16 June 2025 (EDT)
: I feel that would be unnecessary, fans can find it out by looking at the work page. [[User:Vrung|Vrung]] ([[User talk:Vrung|talk]]) 16:53, 16 June 2025 (EDT)
::Unless there's a way I missed, the only way to "figure it out" by looking at the work page is to individually check the pages for every single listed character appearance to see if they've ever appeared anywhere else. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 20:33, 16 June 2025 (EDT)

==Concept characters and sorting by continuity family==
Based on discussions above, I've implemented [[:Category:Deep lore characters|Category:Concept characters]] to cover things like the Thirteen and Primus and Unicron. However, I've noticed that these pages seem to have been rearranged so they aren't sorted by continuity family, except in the case of the movie and Aligned families? I gather that it's to "preserve the flow of conceptual development", but that seems silly when we have "conceputal history" sections on the relevant characters. Other concept pages (e.g. [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] are sorted by family, so this just seems unintuitive. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 19:49, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
:I agree; we've always tried to sort concepts and ideas by continuity family and it's more confusing if we start arbitrarily enforcing this standard on some pages but not on others. [[User:Locoman|Locoman]] ([[User talk:Locoman|talk]]) 20:00, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
::I concur that how we've been organizing big pages like this by continuity family makes sense, especially if they have "Conceptual history" sections. Like, it's weird to jump around from a G1 section, to a Beast Era section, to a UT section, and then back to a G1 section, then to a Movie section, then Aligned, then back to another G1, then back to another Movie, then back to G1 again, then Cyberverse, then G1 again, then another Movie, and so forth. Just let the "Conceptual history" sections do their job. And if there isn't one, then, well... why not make one? They only ''enhance'' each article that has one. I'd say an article like "[[Cybertron (planet)]]" could definitely benefit from a good "Conceptual history" section of its own. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 20:00, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
:::Agreed on all fronts. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 20:20, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
I think if we're going to have cross-continuity pages for whatever reason, because the "continuity family" thing isn't working... why then organize the pages that way? "G1 continuity family" is a unit of wiki organization, not a Real Thing either narratively or creatively, unlike Aligned or Movieverse. That feels like trying to have our cake and eat it—either we're organizing things by continuity family or we aren't. IDW Megatronus is more linked to Aligned Megatronus than Dreamwave Fallen. Why does it make sense to put IDW and Dreamwave together in terms of the character? Forget arbitrary wiki categorization for a minute and ask what's the intended throughline there. Are we presenting the character's evolution in a logical way or are we simply sticking to continuity families because arbitrary wiki organization? (Also an excessive amount of tiny headers as you force them all down one level looks awful.) [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 21:00, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
:I don't buy that "movieverse" is any less arbitrary than "G1 continuity family". None of the Alpha Trion entries sorted under "movie continuity family" have anything to do with each other. I would argue that using continuity families for these pages provides a reasonable measure of organisation to make it easier to find specific fiction entries rather than having to scroll through the entire history of the character. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 21:19, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
::Not to beat the dead horse, but that's why we had separate pages in the first place. Movieverse fiction uses the movies as the fundamental springing board for their narrative (and is especially relevant to the Fallen). G1 does not have that and is purely organized by aesthetics and convenience. Why are Cyberverse, EarthSpark, and Wild King not "G1" while IDW1 is? Arbitrary convenience. Which is fine, but it still drills in the point that it's not a meaningful categorization narratively or creatively, especially if we're going to eschew it at the article level regardless. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 21:51, 18 June 2025 (EDT
:::I simply think we should be consistent about how we sort fiction sections within "concept" articles. To use [[Cybertron (planet)]] as an example again, should we no longer organise the fiction entries on that page by continuity family? If you think so, fine, but I think that's a poor idea. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 21:55, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
::::That page seems to eschew the Fiction header in the first place (which does take care of my tiny header complaint, I suppose), so it's not quite consistent to begin with. But I don't really consider location and character pages to have the same considerations; Cybertron is pretty much the same across all continuities (backstory varies, yes, but mechanical homeworld of the Transformers is always the status quo) while characters are always shifting, changing, and bringing forward new ideas into next iterations. (Gun to my head, yes, I would prefer chronological, but planet articles are not a priority to me.) [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 22:09, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
:::::Right, but the thing about the Thirteen et al is that they ''don't'' have the same considerations as other characters, so we treat them the same as other cross-continuity concept articles. I don't think they should have their own unique format that's the only thing on the wiki that ''completely'' eschews continuity families for organisation. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 22:59, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
Two questions: 1. Are we talking about just the organization of Thirteen/Primus/Unicron pages or across the board, new standard for all pages? 2. For either side (organize by continuity family vs organize by chronology/release date), are there examples of pages with either formatting that can serve as proof of concepts or visuals that show why that specific way is the better one? [[User:Daytonjhammon|Daytonjhammon]] ([[User talk:Daytonjhammon|talk]]) 21:15, 18 June 2025 (EDT)

Bit of an aside but is there a different or more distinct category name we could use? For me and most tf fans I know "Concept characters" brings to mind "concept art" characters, aka unused designs and the like. I think renaming it to "Cross-continuity concept characters" or something similar would make it clearer. —[[User:BluJayWarrior|BluJayWarrior]] ([[User talk:BluJayWarrior|talk]]) 22:39, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
:That would be fine by me, yeah. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 22:59, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
::Yeah, this was the problem that jumped out at me when I first saw the term proposed. Some other suggestions: continuity-agnostic, pan-continuity, meta-continuity, conceptual, lore, mythological, cosmological, multiversal, archetypal, foundational. I don't have a strong preference, just throwing these out there. —[[User:The Wadapan|wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 12:54, 19 June 2025 (EDT)
:::conceptual, lore, and mythological feel a bit too... intangible ig? multiversal is way too close to multiversal singularity imo. I'd say continuity-agnostic, pan-continuity or meta-continuity would all be good. (personally leaning towards meta-continuity) [[User:Arren1234|--Arren Meuchel]] ([[User talk:Arren1234|talk]]) 14:41, 19 June 2025 (EDT)

I'm definitely sympathetic towards [[User:Saix|Saix]] with regards to this specific change. The Thirteen are pretty much the tentpole for the "aligned" worldbuilding which pretty much marked the ''end'' of continuity families in the traditional sense, from a creative perspective at Hasbro (not that the concept was one they were considering to begin with). As he says, everything is G1 now, IDW is aligned, ''Cyberverse'' is IDW, and so on. After consideration I prefer the way he's laid it out. ''However'', there's also obviously an argument to be made from a wiki-consistency standpoint, and I want to state for the record that I don't think such a major reorganisation of those pages' contents should have been implemented without a consensus being reached on talkpages ''first''. This should have been a sandboxed proposal, not just something that was done hoping nobody would notice or care enough to raise an objection themselves. —[[User:The Wadapan|wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 12:54, 19 June 2025 (EDT)

I apologize if I'm a bit off-base here, since I haven't been following these discussions as closely as some, but it seems to me that there are fundamentally two different things that are being presented here: the evolution of the character concept, and the actual fictional history of the various iterations of the character. If that's the case, wouldn't a good solution be to make a separate section for the former while continuing to organize the latter by continuity family like every other page? -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 14:57, 19 June 2025 (EDT)

== Commentary trivia ==

Something I find a bit sad is commentary sounding Trivia having to be deleted from episode pages. Those are funny and can be interesting to see, shame they also hog space. Can there be a middle ground where I cam dump them into, say, wild king episodes Synopsis without sounding...unprofessional? (Because the commentary is one of the best parts of some episode descriptions...)[[User:Poliwag06|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06|talk]]) 00:02, 3 July 2025 (EDT)

== Mentioned characters ==

Something I did back when I was revamping our coverage of the BotCon/Club stuff was add a "mentioned characters" section to the notes; for examples, see [[Cybertron's Most Wanted]], [[Gone Too Far]], and other stories linked to on the [[Transformers Timelines (fiction)]] page. It's something that we lack on other pages, and I think that it's worth implementing; in particular, when looking through some of James Roberts' work recently for a side project, I was struck by how often characters that otherwise never appear on page are mentioned. What I wanna propose is adding something like to this our media pages in general.

The Problem: I think that the benefits speak for themselves, but it does also come against the fact that we have hundreds (if not thousands) of episodes/comics/other media by this point, and that it's going to be a non-trivial amount of work getting this up to speed. For that reason, I don't really think a template is the best way to go about, especially if they're going to be sitting empty until someone goes back to read those comics or rewatch that episode or whatever. What I do think might be worth considering is that we add in something about doing it for media pages in their notes section here on out, so that we can have a headstart on at least the currently published stuff; once it becomes something feasible for a template on various pages, then I think we can revisit that idea. For my end, I've been contemplating a re-read of the comics for a few years now, and I'm more than happy to add stuff over the time I do that.

If anyone has any suggestions or comments, please respond here. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 10:22, 9 July 2025 (EDT)
:I always liked how Wookieepedia lists every proper noun in "Appearances" sections ([https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Episode_V_The_Empire_Strikes_Back#Appearances example]). I think this concept should expand to include locations, weapons, et al.—basically everything we would make a page for. Yes, it's work to add stuff, but that's editing. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 10:32, 9 July 2025 (EDT)
::That sounds like something that could be pretty beneficial information-wise, even if it’s a lot of work. I can definitely start doing something like it for my ''Earth Wars'' write-ups as I go through the event stories. - [[User:IGEBM13|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13|talk]]) 10:49, 9 July 2025 (EDT)
:I definitely remember thinking—back when you were regularly working on the Fun Publications pages—that your exhaustive approach to filling out the notes sections with mentioned characters and concepts was ''really useful'', but that it could stand to be formalised in some way. As you say, it'd be a huge amount of work to bring articles for even the most popular stories up to that standard. —[[User:The Wadapan|wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 11:20, 9 July 2025 (EDT)
::I agree this is something it would be valuable to do going forwards. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]])

== Plagiarism on the other site ==
Basically every EarthSpark character page on the other site is a copy-paste of our own. Some of Cyberverse too. Do we care about this? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 09:34, 11 July 2025 (EDT)
:I think the important first question is whether there's any attribution (though I assume the answer will be no). -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 15:53, 11 July 2025 (EDT)
::As in, "this was written by TFWiki" or "this is a unique article we here at Fandom invented"? We can see which users have been doing the copy-pasting. There's one in particular who pasted in Earthspark content (just choose a character), another who has been doing some weapons (i.e. [[Electro-scrambler]]). I know full well that fan wikis tend to get copied, so if our position is to simply disregard everything Fandom does, we can stick to that. But their site has, supposedly, had a black-and-white policy dating right back to the split that copying from us is not allowed. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 08:29, 12 July 2025 (EDT)
:::I think it could be to try and make the fandom wikis page look as good the pages here are. I confess, I did the same to bulbapedia and the fandom pokemon wiki.[[User:Poliwag06|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06|talk]]) 13:12, 12 July 2025 (EDT)
:::I see no reason to not make a stink about it to whatever passes for admin there. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 13:14, 12 July 2025 (EDT)
::::Thylacine - According to CC BY-SA 3.0, they are free to copy our material as long as they provide credit that it was copied from us. If they ''don't'' do that, and I'm very much assuming they don't, then we should absolutely raise hell about it, as M Sipher suggests.
::::As an example, after Wowpedia moved to wiki.gg and became Warcraft Wiki, Fandom put a blanket ban on linking to wiki.gg (for bullshit reasons) and so we've been aggressively deleting any Wowpedia pages that were copied from us because they are functionally unable to provide proper attribution and their staff fucked up and never depowered one of our admins. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 14:31, 13 July 2025 (EDT)a
:::::They are definitely not providing any credit, and they also still have ''as their very first listed policy'' "no copying from Wikipedia or TFWiki." transformers dot fandom dot com/wiki/Transformers_Wiki:Policies#Plagiarism --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 16:29, 13 July 2025 (EDT)

Their site lists four admins, of whom two are obviously long retired. One who was last active in May is the source of some of the plagiarism, and also showed themself to be unresponsive to multiple direct questions posted on their wall by Fandom higher-ups. That leaves the one who was last active in June. I wrote that one a message summarizing all this as best I can, bearing in mind that systematically comparing pages on some other peoples' wiki is not at all something I am interested in doing. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 10:02, 14 July 2025 (EDT)
:Honestly, failing any response from their admins (which I will imagine will be the case), I think anyone happening to spot plagiarised material can happily just go ahead and delete it on the spot, citing their own policy of not copying from TFWiki. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 10:11, 14 July 2025 (EDT)
::A response: transformers dot fandom dot com/wiki/Message_Wall:Moviejunkie2009

::I msged the other suggested admins, no response. I did NOT msg the suggested Fandom "community manager" because they have no reason to help us, if anything I expect their response would be to simply erase the relict, circa-2008 anti-plagiarism policy that the current community knows nothing about.

::I do ''not'' enjoy scanning their New Articles page every day and maxing out my allowed daily edits by blanking the neverending incoming pasted pages. I am going to stop doing this. It pisses me off that a zero-effort community can ignore its own rules and steal our work, but it feels even worse to compulsively devote my free time to marginally cleaning up a zero-effort community's messes. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 20:07, 17 July 2025 (EDT)

== The General commercial with Bumblebee and Shaq ==

I think we should have information on this commercial for The General with Bumblebee and Shaq:

https://tformers.com/watch-bumblebee-shaq-acting-up-in-new-the-general-insurance-spot/55134/news.html
--[[User:John Pannozzi|John Pannozzi]] ([[User talk:John Pannozzi|talk]]) 13:11, 26 July 2025 (EDT)

== Maintenance heads up ==

Just to let everyone know, I'm going to take the site offline temporarily in about an hour for maintenance. Should not be offline for too long, hopefully. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 02:24, 29 August 2025 (EDT)
:And we're back. Thank you for your patience.--[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 03:43, 29 August 2025 (EDT)

MediaWiki talk:Community Portal

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Screamer City Arena

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|title=Screamer City Arena
|season=1
|season ep=6
|image=Cyberworld_Ep6_AllBots.jpg
|caption=Our Cyberworlds are in danger!
|airdate=[[August 23]], 2025
|writers=[[Ryan Denham]]|animation studio=[[Omens Studio LTD]]
|continuity=Cyberworld
|video=
|videosite=YouTube
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'''The Autobots face off against the Emperor of Cyber City, Starscream!'''

==Synopsis==
[[File:Cyberworld_Ep6_StarscreamDescends.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.67|You know Screamer's imagining "One Winged Angel" playing as he does this.]]

As they sneak through [[Cyber City (Cyberworld)|Cyber City]] by holographically hiding among the many, many statues of [[Starscream (Cyberworld)|Starscream]], [[Mirage (Cyberworld)|Mirage]] explains the predicament to [[Optimus Prime (Cyberworld)|Optimus Prime]], [[Bumblebee (Cyberworld)|Bumblebee]], and [[Elita-1 (Cyberworld)|Elita-1]]. They don't trust each other, but they all want off Cyberworld, and while the trio know what they want and where to find it, Mirage holds the know-how to actually getting it. Fighting through drones to reach a computer terminal, Mirage hacks the system and locates a map with all the drops and missions, which would allow them to reach any ahead of all the other competitors. Mirage also finds schematics of [[Scorponok (Cyberworld)|Scorponok]]. When they try to download it onto their own drive, however, the system is locked down by a broadcast of Starscream, which fries the data. They run for it, escaping the building and hiding behind a holographic wall.

Unfortunately, just as Mirage tries to cockily celebrate saving them, Starscream approaches from above with a flotilla of drones. A mission portal opens up, and the four allies run into it, closely followed by Starscream (but not before he leaves his crown behind for safekeeping), transporting them to a high, levitating platform. The mission title is "Last Bot Standing" - the last bot in the area wins the energon. Mirage decides to cut his losses and go by himself, taking to the skies, but is followed closely by Starscream, who grabs him and tries to tear his wings off, before throwing him back down. Elita-1 and Bumblebee grab an upgrade, which gives Elita a pair of rocket boosters that she uses to knock out Starscream momentarily. Prime volunteers to concede, as only one of them can win, although both Bee and Elita declare "Not it!" Starscream takes this chance to remind them he is still in the game, and as Elita's upgrades wear off, he grabs her and throws her off the edge. She's saved by Mirage, but this is only momentary, as Starscream just throws them both off, this time eliminating them both.

Inspired by his taunting, Optimus and Bumblebee pretend to fight to lure Starscream into complacency. Jubilant at having seemingly turned the allies against each other, he flies in to claim victory, but Optimus grapples him and jumps them both off the arena, leaving Bee the winner. Back on the ground, Starscream swears revenge, grabbing his crown and flying away angrily, only to be hit with the energon drain at just the right time to have him fly into his own statue. As the winner, Bumblebee's laser weapon is upgraded as the others are drained. Elita-1 thanks Mirage for saving her, and he offers to stay in Cyber City and try hacking the system again when things cool off, although in the meantime, the allies need another plan to gain strength. Seeing [[Snarl (Cyberworld)|a silhouette]] in the distance , Optimus Prime says he has an idea of where to find some strength.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Optimus Prime (Cyberworld)|Optimus Prime]] (1)
*[[Elita-1 (Cyberworld)|Elita-1]] (2)
*[[Bumblebee (Cyberworld)|Bumblebee]] (3)
*[[Mirage (Cyberworld)|Mirage]] (4)
*[[Snarl (Cyberworld)|Snarl]] (6)

|c2=
*[[Starscream (Cyberworld)|Starscream]] (5)
}}

==Quotes==

"I often wondered what a Starscream rule would look like. This is way worse."
:—'''Bumblebee''' isn't fond of Starscream's municipal decor.

"You don't have to do this. We always have a choice."<br>
"Can you go five seconds without some patronizing speech?"
:—'''Bumblebee''' and '''Optimus Prime''' never took acting lessons back on Cybertron.

==Notes==

===Continuity notes===
* Snarl is still following the group from a distance, as per [[Smoke & Mirrors|last time]].

===Character levels===
* None seen

===Transformers references===
* Optimus Prime refers to a schematic of Scorponok as his [[Tech Spec]]s.
* Emperor Starscream's crown is designed after [[Starscream (G1)|''Generation 1'' Starscream's]] crown from [[The Transformers: The Movie]].
* The mission's name, "Last Bot Standing", is also the name of [[IDW Publishing]]'s [[Transformers: Last Bot Standing|swansong for their Transformers output]].
* Optimus Prime's "One shall stand, but two shall fall" is riffing off the usual "One shall fall".
* Optimus Prime says "Holy Heterodyne", an exclamation coined back in "[[S.O.S. Dinobots]]" and more recently used by [[Wheeljack (ES)|Wheeljack]] in "[[Togetherness]]".

===Real world references===
* The mission is referred to as both "Battle Royale" and "Last Bot Standing", a Transformers-isation of "Last Man Standing". These are both common multiplayer modes in video games where the objective is to be the last player surviving out a given number.

===Animation and technical errors===
*The credits list Starscream as being voiced by [[Jack Ayres]] instead of [[Shogo Miyakita]].

===Trivia===
* As you might expect by now, this was initially uploaded in a combined video with [[Smoke & Mirrors|the previous one]] with an SEO-baiting title ("Bot Battle Royale!"). The individual title comes from series writer [[Ali Lightfoot|Ali Lightfoot's]] twitter feed. <ref>{{citesocial|quote=2 hours until Transformers: CYBERWORLD episode 6 "Screamer City Arena" drops on the TransformersOfficial YT channel!|link=https://x.com/HedlesChkn/status/1959211406470861249|name=Ali Lightfoot|site=Twitter|year=2025|month=08|day=23}}</ref>

===Foreign localization===

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Cyberworld episodes]]

Mike Spicer

2025-08-05T23:15:50Z

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'''Mike Spicer''' is a comic book colorist. He is best known for ''[[Transformers (2023 comic)|Transformers]]'', ''Super Dinosaur'', ''The Terrifics'', ''[[Superman]]'', ''Grimm Fairy Tales'', [[Peter David]]'s ''New [[Fantastic Four]]'', ''Red Sonja'', ''[[Star Trek]]: Defiant'' & ''Stillwater''.

==Credits==
*''[[Transformers (2023 comic)|Transformers]]''
*''[[Void Rivals]]''
*''[[Cobra Commander (comic)|Cobra Commander]]''
*''[[Duke (comic)|Duke]]''
*''[[G.I. Joe (2024 comic)|G.I. Joe]]''

==Gallery==
<center><gallery>
File:TF2023 no. 11 - beachcomber surfing.jpg|
File:TF2023 no. 5 – Starscream kicks Ravage.jpg|
File:Duke 1 Maria The Wolf Cover A.jpg|
File:TF2023 – Spike and Carly to the Rescue!.jpg|
</gallery>
''[[:Category:Images by Mike Spicer|Extended Mike Spicer gallery]]''
</center>

{{DEFAULTSORT:Spicer, Mike}}
[[Category:Colorists]]

Commence Program

2025-07-22T02:21:45Z

Abates: /* Synopsis */

{{episode
|otherseries=''[[Transformers: Cyberworld (cartoon)|Transformers: Cyberworld]]'' episode 1
|next=Cyberworld episode 2
|image=CyberworldEp1-ScorponokOptimus.jpg
|caption=[[William Lennox|I don't have a credit card!]]
|season=1
|season ep=1
|airdate=[[July 12]], 2025
|writers=[[Ali Lightfoot]]
|animation studio=[[Omens Studio LTD]]
|continuity=Cyberworld
|video=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOvM2IeSNH4
|videosite=YouTube
}}

'''Optimus Prime crash-lands on a strange planet and tries to find an Autobot ally... or at the very least, someone who's not looking to destroy him.'''

==Synopsis==
[[Optimus Prime (Cyberworld)|Optimus Prime]] plummets through the air, seemingly unconscious, as he hears [[Bumblebee (Cyberworld)|Bumblebee]] shouting desperately. He comes to and ungracefully flails in his free-fall, slamming right into some thick tree branches before landing in a jungle. He gets an unexpected firmware update which disorients him and makes his field of vision acquire what looks like a gaming HUD. Unimpressed with the bio-organic fauna of the planet, he discovers a desert right outside of the jungle. After a short trek over one of the dunes, he discovers an [[Autobot]] ship. Hoping to find an ally, he approaches and calls out to whoever may be inside, only to receive a nasty shock when [[Scorponok (Cyberworld)|Scorponok]] bursts out of the sand. After an attempt to take out his [[energon-axe]] fails, and it becomes clear Scorponok isn't interested in talking, Optimus flees back into the jungle. Scorponok, unable to follow him, leaves.

[[File:Cyberworld optimus firmware.jpg|thumb|left|200px]]

Optimus discovers the [[energon]] readings in the area are spiking, and a blue cube appears out of the ground. As Optimus takes it, he absorbs it, and his level meter at the top of his screen goes up. No sooner has this happened that a shout accusing him of being a thief erupts from the jungle, along with an angry [[Dinobot (Cyberworld)|Dinobot]]. Uninterested in Optimus' attempt to make peace, [[Grimlock (Cyberworld)|Grimlock]] attacks him, then gives chase. Some clever maneuvering on Optimus' part causes Grimlock to get his head stuck between two branches, allowing him to escape.

Looking up, Optimus sees a falling Autobot escape pod in the sky, and follows its trail in the hope that Bumblebee is inside. Meanwhile Bumblebee has also crash-landed, and is having trouble getting used to a firmware update of his own. However, he's soon distracted by heavy footsteps behind him. Hopeful it's an ally, he turns around, only to meet [[Megatron (Cyberworld)|Megatron]]...
{{--}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Optimus Prime (Cyberworld)|Optimus Prime]] (1)
*[[Grimlock (Cyberworld)|Grimlock]] (3)
*[[Bumblebee (Cyberworld)|Bumblebee]] (4)

|c2=
*[[Scorponok (Cyberworld)|Scorponok]] (2)
*[[Megatron (Cyberworld)|Megatron]] (5)
}}

==Quotes==
"Not registering any anomalies, but this is... ''quite'' abnormal."
:—'''Optimus Prime''', discovering the vast difference in the neighboring biomes

"Not just any Dinobot! You speak with me, Grimlock- KING of Dinobots!"
:—'''Grimlock''', humble as ever

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
*Optimus Prime and Bumblebee arrive on Cyberworld, unaware of where they are and what it is. Scorponok, Grimlock, and Megatron all appear to have been there longer. Grimlock is the only one to give an estimate of his time there, having waited for the energon cube to spawn for "weeks".
*Optimus and Bumblebee have their firmware updated for compatibility with the planet's "system".

===Character levels===
*As a fresh spawn in Cyberworld, we see Optimus start at level 1 and gain enough Energon to almost level up to 2. While don't see Bumblebee's level, we can assume he started at level 1 as well.
*Grimlock, Megatron and Scorponok's levels are unknown.

===Transformers references===
*Optimus comments that the planet is certainly not [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].
*Bumblebee, a bit prematurely, thanks [[Primus]] that he's not alone in his new surroundings.

===Real-world references===
[[File:Cyberworld bumblebee crashlanding.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|"Ah... where did you bury me anyway?"<br>"Bury?"]]
*The shot of Grimlock's reflection in dinosaur mode in Optimus Prime's rearview mirror refers to the famous similar shot from ''[[Jurassic Park]]''.
*Bumblebee crash-lands in a position that looks an awful lot like [https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/yamchas-death-pose/ Yamcha's death pose] from ''Dragon Ball Z''.

===Trivia===
*This episode was initially released in a single video combined with episode 2. The episode would later receive a standalone release on July 17.
*The standalone video went through three different titles on its first day of release, presumably to drive engagement and chase the YouTube algorithm: "Rumble in the Jungle", then "Jungle Face-Off", and finally, "Jungle Escape". As such, {{SITENAME_SHORT}} has opted to simply use numbers for the episode titles until we're sure they're not going to be changed again.

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[[Category:Cyberworld episodes]]

MediaWiki:Sidebar

2025-07-07T06:31:45Z

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Noah Nelson

2025-06-19T00:23:48Z

Abates: Nelson evidently passed away recently as Elder Scroll Oblivion Remastered which he provided voicework for includes "In memory of Noah Nelson" in the credits.

[[File:Noah Nelson.jpg|216px|thumb]]
'''Noah Nelson''' ([[October 11]], [[1975]]—???) was an American voice actor, notable for voicing Tohru in ''Jackie Chan Adventures''. His other voice roles were mainly in video games, including Cunningham in ''Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops''. He was not Craig T. Nelson's son.

==Voice roles==
===''Transformers'': The Game===
*[[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]]
*[[Drone]]s
*Additional voices

==External links==
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1603148/ Noah Nelson on IMDB]

{{DEFAULTSORT:Nelson, Noah}}
[[Category:Activision]]
[[Category:English voice actors]]

Soundwave (ES)

2025-06-16T06:50:49Z

Abates: /* EarthSpark cartoon */

{{factions|decepticon|hofsilver}}
{{disambig3|Soundwave}}
:''Soundwave is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers: EarthSpark (franchise)|EarthSpark]] [[continuity family]].''
[[File:Earthspark-Decoy-Soundwave.jpg|thumb|350px|[[Megatron (ES)|Megatron's]] defection has left him blue in the face.]]

'''Soundwave''' was once one of [[Megatron (ES)|Megatron]]'s most loyal followers, but after the Decepticon leader joined forces ''with'' the [[Autobot]]s, as well as [[G.H.O.S.T.]], he now bears a great grudge against his former superior. A bot of few words compared to others of his caliber, he takes on his opponents with deadly precision, backed up by his personal entourage of [[Decepticon Mini-Cassette|Cassette-Bots]]. In addition to his rapid-fire shoulder-mounted blaster and his weaponry in his stealth fighter mode, Soundwave possesses supersonic abilities that he can readily harness in combat.

{{bigquote|Do not make this personal, Soundwave!}}
{{bigquote|It already is.|Megatron and Soundwave|"[[Decoy (episode)|Decoy]]"}}

==Fiction==
===''EarthSpark'' cartoon===
{{voiceactor|[[Sean Kenin Reyes]] (English), [[Itaru Yamamoto]] (Japanese)|[[Miguel Angel Leal]] (Latin American Spanish), [[David Robles]] (Castilian Spanish), [[András Faragó]] (Hungarian), [[Jorge Vasconcellos]] (Brazilian Portuguese), [[Augustin Jacob]] (French, season 1), [[Yannick Lassère]] (French, season 2), [[Kamil Pruban]] (Polish)}}
Soundwave served under [[Megatron (ES)|Megatron]] during the war between the Autobots and Decepticons. However, by the time the war expanded to Earth his leader ended up defecting to the Autobots. With the destruction of both the [[AllSpark]] and [[space bridge|spacebridge]] that connected Earth to Cybertron, at [[Optimus Prime (ES)|Optimus]] and Megatron's hands, the war came to a swift end. {{storylink|Secret Legacy, Part 1}} {{storylink|Warzone}} At one point, while suffering from [[energon]] starvation, Soundwave attempted to deploy one of his cassette-bots, only for it to explode instead. {{storylink|Friends and Family}} After Megatron began working with the humans to round up rogue Decepticons, Soundwave regarded him as a traitor to the Decepticon cause.

Aiming to infiltrate [[G.H.O.S.T.]] HQ, Soundwave had [[Ravage (ES)|Ravage]], [[Frenzy (ES)|Frenzy]] and [[Laserbeak (ES)|Laserbeak]] steal [[Jon Schloder|Agent Schloder]]'s ID with the intent of luring Megatron and [[Optimus Prime (ES)|Optimus Prime]] to capture them. Soundwave then ambushed Optimus and [[Bumblebee (ES)|Bumblebee]] as they passed through a tunnel. Using an electromagnetic pulse to free the Cassette-Bots, he set his minions on Megatron while he battled Optimus and Bumblebee to the point that they were pinned down behind Optimus's trailer. When Bumblebee took a fall off the side of the mountain, Soundwave took the opportunity to strafe the Autobot in bomber mode, only for [[Arcee (ES)|Arcee]] to force him to land. Megatron's pleas for Soundwave to surrender fell on deaf ears, and it was only Optimus, Megatron and Arcee working together that led to Soundwave's defeat and capture. Soundwave was imprisoned in a cell in G.H.O.S.T. HQ, where he was able to release Ravage to scout the facility. {{storylink|Decoy (episode)|Decoy}}

When the young [[Terran]] [[Hashtag (ES)|Hashtag]] inadvertently used her powers to hack G.H.O.S.T.'s security systems, she also ended up deactivating the shields of the cells holding the Decepticon prisoners, leading to a prisoner uprising which Soundwave participated in. {{storylink|Hashtag: Oops}} When [[Mandroid]] disabled G.H.O.S.T.'s systems while attempting to harness the [[cyber-sleeve]]s' power, {{storylink|Disarmed}} he and the other Decepticons attempted to escape G.H.O.S.T. custody, but he and [[Swindle (ES)|Swindle]] were blocked by a force field. {{storylink|What Dwells Within}} He was freed from prison by the remaining Terrans {{storylink|The Last Hope, Part 1}} and later assisted in their fight against [[Mandroid]], he and Swindle riding into battle atop [[Hardtop (ES)|Hardtop]] to battle the [[Sharkticon (species)|Sharkticons]]. He and the other bots present were deactivated when Mandroid activated a superweapon that drained their energon, only for them to be revived a few minutes later when [[Robby Malto|Robby]] and [[Mo Malto|Mo]] reversed the effects. {{storylink|The Last Hope, Part 2}}

In the immediate aftermath of Mandroid’s defeat, the Decepticons upheld the truce with the Autobots and Maltos. However, it was not long before their greed and ambition resurfaced, and they began to seek the shards of the emberstone for themselves. Some time later, Soundwave overheard the Maltos’ plans to retrieve three more shards of the Emberstone and relayed the intel to Starscream. The cons converged on the shipyard and fought the Autobots and Maltos. Soundwave retreated with the others when the battle was revealed to be a diversion. {{storylink|Aftermath (ES episode)|Aftermath}}

Soundwave encountered [[Twitch]] shortly after she found a shard in the forest. When she refused to hand it over, he deployed Laserbeak and Ravage to chase her down. The cassettes gave up the chase after the shard became a new Terran. {{storylink|Spitfire (episode)|Spitfire}} Soundwave was feeding Ravage energon in a makeshift bowl when Twitch, temporarily transplanted into [[Spitfire (ES)|Spitfire]], arrived at the Decepticon base. After he passed on Ravage's intel about an Autobot plan to move the [[Cyber Slayer]], Starscream had him brief [[Nova Storm (ES)|Nova Storm]] and [[Skywarp (ES)|Skywarp]] on arranging an ambush. He and the two Seekers subsequently jumped Optimus and Elita-1 as the pair left Autobot base but had to return to base empty-handed when it turned out Spitfire had stolen the Cyber Slayer already. {{storylink|The Imposters}}

Soudwave listened to Starscream's speech about his imminent victory during which the Autobots turned up to demand the Decepticons turn over their Embershards and Soundwave took part in the inevitably resulting fight. Starscream, thanks to some hostage taking, managed to obtain all of the shards, at which point the Decepticons headed out. They assembled on a nearby hill to watch as the [[Titan (group)|Titan]] [[Terratronus]], now under Starscream's control, rose from the ground and sent them flying with a swipe of her hand. Reasoning that Starscream had betrayed them, Soundwave and the other Cons opted to follow [[Shockwave (ES)|Shockwave]] instead, only to be trapped under the [[Chaos Dome]] that Robby and Mo erected to contain Terratronus. {{storylink|Witwicky, Part 2}}

Responding to random laser fire, Soundwave and [[Breakdown (ES)|Breakdown]] caught Bumblebee, Mo and [[Thrash (ES)|Thrash]] inside the dome. Soundwave sicced his cassettes on the two Maltos, but he and his squad were taken out when Breakdown, charged with chaos energy, was thrown into them. He and Skullcruncher later backed up Shockwave as their leader confronted the trio when they were about to leave the dome, and he provided a feed of Laserbeak's view when Bee challenged Breakdown to a winner-takes-all race. Ultimately Bee won, leaving the Decepticons trapped in the dome. {{storylink|The Need for Read}} After [[Prowl (ES)|Prowl]]'s ship crashed within the Chaos Dome, Soundwave and the other Cons turned out to claim it, only to be driven off by the ship's defenses. Their second attempt was more successful, and following a protracted battle with Optimus and Prowl, the Decepticons boarded the ship before launching into space. {{storylink|No Soldier Left Behind}} During the trip, Frenzy and Laserbeak took pictures to send back to the Autobots, much to Soundwave's annoyance. {{storylink|Fire and Ice}}

==Toys==
===''EarthSpark''===
[[File:TF-Earthspark-1-Step-Soundwave.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|No, no, you're supposed to put the [[stasis cuffs]] around the wrists, not the ankles! ''(Hasbro Version Pictured)'']]
[[File:TF-ES-JP-ESS-07-Supatto-(Flip-Changer)-Soundwave.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|''(TakaraTomy Version Pictured)'']]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Soundwave''' (1-Step Flip Changer, 2023)}}</ul>
:*''TakaraTomy Name'': '''Supatto Change Soundwave'''
:*''TakaraTomy ID Number'': '''ESS-07'''

: Part of the second wave of ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (toyline)|EarthSpark]]'' "1-Step Flip Changers", Soundwave is a simple toy that converts from robot to stealth bomber and vice versa in a single step. His vehicle mode can be arrived at much faster by letting him fall face-down onto a solid surface. This hits a switch in his chest and allows him to spring back into bomber mode instantly. He is packaged with his wings folded up, and must be unfolded and snapped into place to transform. Once they are snapped into place, it is neither necessary, nor recommended to return them to their original state, as the amount of force required to do so risks breaking the figure.

: Unlike previous One Step Changers, Soundwave lacks any robot mode articulation.

: The TakaraTomy release features some additional paint details.

{{-}}{{anchor|Deluxe}}
[[File:ESDeluxeSoundwave.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Soundwave''' (Deluxe, 2025)}}</ul>
:*''Release date'': April 2025
:*''TakaraTomy Name'':
:*''TakaraTomy ID Number'':
:*''Accessories'': Blaster

: Part of the seventh wave of Hasbro's ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (toyline)|EarthSpark]]'' Deluxe Class figures, Soundwave converts from a robot to a stealth bomber in 18 steps. He includes a triple-barreled blaster that can mount on the top of his jet mode. Soundwave and his wave-mate Hashtag are the first Deluxes to come in updated packaging.
{{--}}

==Notes==
===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Soundwave''' (サウンドウェーブ ''Saundowēbu'')
*''Hungarian:'' '''Fülelő''' ("Listener")

[[Category:EarthSpark Decepticons]]
[[Category:Hall of Fame characters]]

MediaWiki talk:Community Portal

2025-05-20T20:15:51Z

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==The Thirteen and the other conversation we've been waiting for==

Over the last few years, the Thirteen have played a major role in multiple ''Transformers'' stories. However, this prominence—combined with Hasbro's increasingly loose approach their in-universe lore—has also led to increasingly divergent portrayals of the group and its individual members.

Around 2015, we took the step of consolidating all the different incarnations of the Thirteen on one page for each, with the rationale that the characters were former [[multiversal singularity|multiversal singularities]], and mostly shared similar backstories and personalities between incarnations. However, even at the time, this was not a completely ideal comporomise. Most notably, the various [[Alpha Trion]]s were not consolidated into one, partly due to length and partly because the existence of his [[Alpha Trion (SG)|murderously insane evil counterpart]] represented a massive contradiction to the entire notion.

However, over the years, multiple authors have drastically reinterpreted the Thirteen and their story. The role of "Thirteenth Prime" has been filled by multiple contradictory characters—[[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]], [[Zeta Prime (One)|Zeta Prime]], [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]]—and individual depictions of the Primes themselves have grown increasingly divergent. "Shattered Glass" Alpha Trion is no longer the outlier, but rather an increasing trend: for instance, ''Transformers One'' features a completely heroic Megatronus who never becomes The Fallen, a Liege Maximo that looks nothing like Loki, and an incarnation of Nexus Prime that does not seem to be a combiner. With these data points in mind—and the potential for even further divergence in the coming years—I and several other editors feel that it may be time to reorganize our Thirteen coverage, splitting them out into individual [[continuity family]]-based incarnations the way we would for stock characters like [[Optimus Prime (disambiguation)|Optimus Prime]], [[Bumblebee (disambiguation)|Bumblebee]], etc.

However, if we do adopt this approach, some further problems would need to be solved.

* '''How do we handle toys?''' With a few exceptions like ''Revenge of the Fallen'' The Fallen, the toys of the Thirteen are clearly meant to be somewhat continuity-agnostic. ''Age of the Primes'' Solus Prime is about as faithful to her depiction in ''The Covenant of Primus'' as it is to ''One'' or any of the IDW comics in which she appears. Even if we count them as "repurposes" across multiple pages, the format of the wiki means they'd have to be based ''somewhere''...

* '''FunPub stuff''': The Vector Prime of "Ask Vector Prime" is clearly meant to be a version of the same Vector Prime who appeared in the ''Cybertron'' cartoon, but at the same time makes reference to off-camera events, such as a time when he and the Thirteen lived in Ancient Greece—would we make a separate "FunPub" page for the Thirteen, or try and work these events onto Unicron Trilogy pages when necessary? Other similar problems exist: "[[Coalescence]]" is a story that features a movie universe Fallen jumping into the world of ''Shattered Glass'', and AVP established that "The Evil One" of GoBots fame, is another alternate-universe incarnation of The Fallen/Megatronus.

Feedback on this proposal is appreciated! [[User:Locoman|Locoman]] ([[User talk:Locoman|talk]]) 11:50, 7 December 2024 (EST)
:From my point of view, I think as it stands right now my thoughts on the Thirteenth Prime stuff is that I absolutely understand the concerns, but for me personally it kind of falls into the same view as like, IDW Primus being Rung, which I think our current model handles fairly well. For the other Primes, I'm tempted to say that like...as it stands, there's about as much divergence there as like, Unicron as he's depicted in The Last Knight (not really shown to be aggressive beyond being called Cybertron's enemy), and as it stands right now, I don't think that's enough to say there should be a full-on split, but I do think it's worth thinking about future-proofing. And I suppose my main concern right now about pushing ahead too soon is in the event there's some fiction accompanying the Age of the Primes stuff; certainly, the fact that we're getting a toy of the Fallen with the Megatronus name but with the original Dreamwave design does make me hesitant that there might be some further consolidation of disparate elements; and I remember that last time we did this in the early 2010s was that we figured the idea of the Aligned Primes not having any connections to the others was going to be the standard going forward, which turned out not to be the case, and I figure it might be worth considering if something like that happens again. But! I am open to ideas of how to implement this if we do go for it; I think the suite options we have for Primus and Unicron work perfectly fine if we go for something like that. Just figure it's worth considering the stuff I've brought up here first. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 12:35, 7 December 2024 (EST)
::Right now, I'm leaning toward the camp of not splitting them out for all the reasons you've given. I look at our current situation and, while not perfect, I feel that things can be tidied up simply with some "Conceptual history" sections for the pages that need them. The aforementioned Vector Prime is a particular case not just for everything stated about him above, but because [[Vector Prime: In the Beginning|his very first Fub Pub appearance]] written by [[Forest Lee]] leans so heavily far into the multiversal aspect of the character that it doesn't treat him like he is a native to the Cybertron cartoon universe but rather to the whole multiverse itself. Similarly, Nexus Prime was also continuity-agnostic by his very nature from the ground up. The safest solution for splitting him out would be to classify his Fun Pub incarnation under "(Timelines)" (the previous "(Classics)" tag we had him under was bleh), but that's typically a last-resort tag we have tried to avoid in the past.
::Regarding The Fallen, while he does tend to be evil in a majority of his depictions, and has had a few outlier cases where he either didn't go bad at all (TF One) or was the victim of other's manipulations (Covenant), it's implied that the majority of those evil versions weren't always evil from the start, and only went bad later. The TF One version of Megatronus never turned to the dark side, but one could argue that he was murdered before he ever would have gotten the chance to. ;-)
::Regarding the Thirteenth Prime and various conflicting the depictions, we solved that issue by simply creating the "[[Thirteenth Prime]]" article to explain everything there.
::You mention the situation with Alpha Trion, and I get it. The biggest reasons for simply not merging all of his pages together were that A) he was never originally meant to be one of the Thirteen since the original Dreamwave-based lore for the Thirteen had them all die before A3 was even born, and B) his Shattered Glass self. I used to be a proponent for keeping all of his versions separate because of A, but in the time since then we've had more and more depictions of him as a 13er who were all still pretty much the same as his traditional pre-Aligned depictions. If we were to merge all of his versions together, a "Conceptual history" section for him could explain the whole "Sometimes he's a 13er, sometimes he's not" situation.
::BUT, there still remains his SG version, which I wouldn't feel comfortable putting on the same page as his other versions. Reaching back to the [https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Talk:Transformers:_Shattered_Glass_(franchise)#Separate_Continuity.3F original discussion] about how to handle the SG characters, I find myself still agreeing with those like Steve-o who pointed out how awkward "'''Continuity X''': Bumblebee loves humans and does lots of funny and cute stuff to help save the universe. '''Continuity Y''': Bumblebee loves humans and does lots of different but still funny and cute stuff to help save the universe. '''Shattered Glass''': Bumblebee is hardcore evil and wants to kill you for no particular reason. '''Continuity Z''': Bumblebee loves humans and does yet another set of funny and cute stuff to help save the universe." reads as a page. But, there is one thing we have nowadays that we did not have back when that original discussion was held and makes me wonder how differently the conversation might have gone if they had existed back then: Subpages. Looking at our [[Primus]] and [[Unicron]] articles, I find it to be a very fair and workable compromise that their respective SG versions are placed not on their respective main pages but as subpages for each. Doing the same for SG Alpha Trion were we to merge all of the non-SG A3's together could be a valid solution too, in my eyes. Unlike others, I don't see subpages as an annoying evil that much be dealt with and eliminated, but as a handy tool to work around tricky situations like this.
::Had they even existed back then, it's very possible that ALL SG characters may have ended up on subpages for their positive polarity counterparts instead of separate pages entirely. And since then, SG has grown to expand not just beyond the original Fun Pub SG G1 continuity but to other non-G1 SG continuities, like for the Movies, Animated, and Cybertron, forcing us to create such unsightly tags as "(SG Movie)", "(SG Animated)", and "(SG Cybertron)", when subpages could have prevented that with "(Movie)/Shattered Glass" or "(Animated)/Shattered Glass" and so on.
::But, I'm getting off topic. Backing up to the Thirteen, I'm for keeping the Thirteen together. In addition to what all I've said above, the Age of the Primes toys seem to be treating them as the standard or definitive versions of the Thirteen that apply for every version/universe/continuity, pulling from all across the board rather than sticking to a single depicted version of them. Prima has his Aligned body but the Sunbow Powerful Robot's head. The Fallen is just the Dreamwave design but with Aligned Megatronus's weapons from the books and RID 2015 cartoon. Micronus is likely to be based on his RID 2015 design which was itself based on the Aligned design. The statue group artwork makes Amalgamous looks more like his TF One design than his Aligned design. Vector Prime is just straight-up Cybertron Vector Prime. And Star Convoy was never one of the Thirteen in any version before now. Yet, all these disparately-sourced designs are being treated as if they all belong to the same group no matter what continuity they come from. So keeping them together as they are would just make it easier for us to not have to split hairs over which versions of which 13ers these are supposed to be when the answer would simply be "all of the above" (and we wouldn't have to put multiple entries of the same toy on, like, six or seven different characters' pages that would have to maintained equally across all of those pages). This model makes this particular version of the group feel inherently multiversal, with each member either originating from a different universe as each other, or being a multiversal hybrids comprised of different aspects of different versions of them from across the dimensions, as if Hasbro is trying to say that the AOTP versions represent *every* version of the Thirteen (minus Star Optimus, of course, since we know he's not a member in every version of this group). --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 13:01, 7 December 2024 (EST)
:::As somebody who's pushed for this split for a long time, I'm obviously all for it. I feel we can easily determine where the toys go based on their main inspirations (Fallen is G1 Dreamwave, Micronus is Aligned RID, etc) are or just make the links go to the G1 pages (since G1 is effectively the wastebasket taxon of this franchise anyway). For the FunPub stuff, we can either do it Sideways style or just do it like we do for Kre-O and ancillary stuff: place them based on the characterization/design used by the work. Multiversal Vector Prime is pretty much just Cybertron Vector Prime (and the TransTech incarnation from the last portion of AVP can be split out).
:::I am pretty much opposed to "subpages" because that is just duplicating the parentheses system we already have just for the sake of pedantry. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:03, 7 December 2024 (EST)
:::Fully agree with both Escargon and Sabrblade, and their reasoning. I am biased against splits pretty much as a matter of cause, but the Thirteen ''in particular'' have for most of their history (including now, in the continuity-agnostic ''Age of the Primes!)'' been defined by their multiversal nature. I just don't think a split would be helpful. —[[User:The Wadapan|wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 16:05, 7 December 2024 (EST)
::::So we need to wait five years of more non-multiversal stories to have this discussion again? That doesn't make sense. The COP version of the Thirteen weren't characterized as singularities in the first place, regardless; only FunPub cared about that aspect (and not even with the usual lineup we have now) and they tossed it because they realized it was an unworkable concept in this franchise and it's unlikely to ever get resurrected. It's been nearly a decade since the Shroud (the concept only existed from 2009-2015). You bring up AOTP but toylines clearly don't and never thought about those characters in terms of our organizational schema. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 17:19, 7 December 2024 (EST)
:I think we can probably leave the most of the old content together, since it might be a mess to split them apart and much of that content is based on the Covenant mythos anyway. I feel new iterations of the Thirteen (post-POTP?) should get their own pages, like ''Earthspark'' Quintus and the ''One'' Primes (particularly Megatronus since he's quite different). Though I suppose that begs the question of what to use in the parentheses for their current pages... —[[User:BluJayWarrior|BluJayWarrior]] ([[User talk:BluJayWarrior|talk]]) 13:10, 7 December 2024 (EST)
::How much of it is actually sticking to the Covenant? IDW1 had them be regular guys and some pre-Covenant stuff (notably Megatronus/Fallen) is more prominent for the character and not really compatible. Other Aligned stuff has also influenced other "continuity families", but we're not merging those articles, so I don't really see why this is different regarding the Thirteen. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:49, 7 December 2024 (EST)
:I’m against splitting pages, mostly because The Thirteen haven’t had enough drastic and unique depictions of them to stop “breaking the rules” for them and give them split pages.
::> The Thirteen haven’t followed the traditional convention of “every character gets a new page for that universe’s depiction”, mostly because of the whole multiversal singularity issue. Now while that concept isn’t used in fiction anymore, ''Age of the Primes'' seems to lean towards having a standard, continuity-agnostic depiction of the Thirteen from which future teams can use as the foundation of their depictions.
::> Escargon and Sabrblade make some good points regarding subpages, particularly with the example of the standard '''“Primus = God”''' and '''Rung (G1)''' incarnations. Rung is a distinct and unique take on the Primus character whose backstory is incompatible with virtually every other Primus incarnation, so placing him on the same page as the Primus of the Marvel Comics, or Cybertron, or the Aligned continuity, wouldn’t seem right.
::> ''The Covenant of Primus'' has been the foundation of every depiction of the Thirteen since it was released. Certain things might be modified, such as the 2005 IDW’s take on them, but even those Primes still follow certain story beats: Megatronus kills Solus, Liege Maximo is a manipulator, Prima’s role as the leader and his conflict with Megatronus, etc. ''One'' offers a depiction of the Thirteen who don’t enter a War of the Primes situation, but because we don’t really get any more information about them besides how they died, I wouldn’t say that they’re distinct enough or important enough to warrant their own pages.
::> Then there’s the fact that a lot of the Primes either have had very small roles or haven’t had any real importance to the franchise in several years: '''Micronus'''’s last big role was a few episodes in ''Robots in Disguise'' and a clever tie-in to the Microspace of the 2005 IDW universe. '''Onyx'''’s only big role was in the ''Covenant'', mostly thanks to '''[[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|this guy]]''' taking his place in another universe. Onyx has a few mentions in ''Cyberverse'', but I don’t think that alone should be the reason for splitting his page up. '''Nexus Prime''' and '''Vector Prime''' haven’t really done anything notable since the Shroud. '''Solus Prime''' has seen some prominence thanks to IDW's Caminus and ''Power of the Primes'', but those depictions again don’t stray too far from the ''Covenant''. '''Amalgamous Prime''' has had virtually no exploration as a character. The most we’ve gotten for him is a much easier-to-look-at design in ''One''.
::> Character-wise, story-wise… they’re all still heavily based on the ''Covenant''. Even '''Quintus Prime'''’s ''Earthspark'' depiction (with his more human-looking face) is based on his “Johnny Appleseed, made the Quintessons” lore established from the ''Covenant''. Now if we had a full group of the Thirteen from a Shattered Glass universe or had some “What-If?” incarnations of the characters that made them very different… splitting pages would make more sense to me.
::> A lot of the Thirteen have also maintained a consistent visual look to them since their introduction: all the Primes introduced in the Covenant have kept their look (Alchemist’s Lenses, Onyx’s face, Solus’ hair and color scheme), and every version of Megatronus seems to have a Decepticon insignia face, flames, and/or both. While ''One'' may have changed some color schemes (Liege Maximo missing his green), I don’t think just having a different color scheme and nothing else different warrants a new page.
::> I like the idea of conceptual history sections for now, and as I said on ''The Fallen''’s talk page, I think the beginning to his page needs a general rewrite from its “frozen in 2009” version. But until drastic new interpretations of those characters are created, if a member of the Thirteen has a single page… we should keep it as a single page --[[User:Daytonjhammon|Daytonjhammon]] ([[User talk:Daytonjhammon|talk]]) 16:33, 7 December 2024 (EST)
: Splitting them would simply be a bigger headache. They're rather like Primus and Unicron where they're "bigger picture" characters (only this time around designed ''very specifically'' to '''''be''''' as such) and it's best to treat them as such, and really, there's not enough material to BOTHER splitting for most of them. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 18:29, 7 December 2024 (EST)
::Since it's related to this subject, it should probably also be mentioned here that there have recently been two discussions happening on the talk page for [[The Fallen]]. One about changing that article's mainpic and the other about moving the page's name to Megatronus. As of now, nothing has come out of either discussion, but I feel the results of this a bigger discussion may have an effect on either of those two smaller ones. Speaking as one who is in favor of not splitting out the Thirteen, my thoughts on these two smaller topics are that a good compromise would be to keep the article at its current name since many Megatronuses still become The Fallen, but replace the mainpic with The Fallen's Age of the Primes toy packaging art (as it depicts him in his original first body from Dreamwave but armed with his now-signature weapons from Aligned media, serving as a sort of visual overview for the character's history), along with a rewrite of his intro at the top of the page to be more all-encompassing, and the inclusion of a new "Conceptual history" section to give a proper overview of his different depictions. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 19:29, 7 December 2024 (EST)
:::I'm going to second this. I've mulled it over a little bit and while there is an argument to be made for splitting them out, I feel that 12 of the 13 primes really don't warrant it. They just haven't had as much an impact on the story and while it could be future proofing to split them, until we get prominent appearances from them I don't think it's a viable option right now. Megatronus is clearly the exception to this rule. I don't know if there's a clean solution to dealing with him at the moment. Part of me thinks maybe we should suite out the Movie and RiD versions since those are his too big appearences to date. At the bare minimum though I think we should use either his Dreamwave or Age of Primes art as the mainpic. It's his first body and I think it's influenced more designs than his RoTF design has. [[User:Ezim93|Ezim93]] ([[User talk:Ezim93|talk]]) 22:57, 7 December 2024 (EST)
::::Erm, no. Neither his Movie or RiD sections (certainly not the latter) are big enough to warrant subpages for either. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 00:57, 8 December 2024 (EST)
:::I'm also of the opinion that a split would be a massive hassle for very little gain, but I do feel we should move The Fallen to Megatronus. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 06:54, 8 December 2024 (EST)
::::To me, renaming the page to Megatronus feels like renaming an Optimus Prime page to Orion Pax. The name was created to tell us what he was called ''before'' he became The Fallen, like how Orion Pax was what Optimus was called before he became Optimus Prime. TF One Megatronus never became The Fallen but he's an anomaly, not a new standard. As of now, the only impact TF One Megatronus has had on the brand is the official reveal video for Age of the Primes describing the very Dreamwave/Aligned-based AOTP version as "the most powerful Prime," while also putting a grim, pronounced emphasis on "The Fallen" when referring to him as "Megatronus... The Fallen". --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 13:16, 8 December 2024 (EST)
::::: '''Yes''' to changing The Fallen's mainpic back to the DW-style character design, huge-ass '''No''' to changing the page name; the Optimus/Orion comparison is spot-on. (And as to below... yes. The Thirteen are absolutely "set dressing that walks like a man" and best to approach them as such.) --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 20:11, 8 December 2024 (EST)

:After meditating upon this a while I think I've come to agree with the broad majority above that splitting each member of the Thirteen would hurt more than it would help. The way I see it what we should be striving for here is the approach that involves the least "hallucinating data" within our organizational system, and splitting will require making a lot of different calls on what "counts" to formulate micro-characterizations for dozens of serial continuity transplants, none of which do much individually, while obfuscating the larger context they are gesturing towards. Fundamentally what we may be running up against here is that the closest most of these guys have to a true "home continuity" as we typically think of it is... the brand bible. They are set dressing that walks like a man.

:To go one step further, if we want to talk future-proofing I would advocate formalizing the approach of treating them as a squad of mini-Unicrons/Primuses such that:

::1) My suggestion for the issues currently plaguing the Fallen (and to a lesser degree Trion) would be to make "Conceptual History" sections more or less standard issue across the board for the Thirteen, laying out swerves in characterization and appearance as they happened rather than trying to pry them apart ''or'' smoosh them together.

::2) I think it's worth revisiting merging Alpha Trion for consistency. In the decade+ since Prime cludged him into the lineup, Alpha Trion has consistently appeared as a member of the Thirteen, an insubstantial cameo, or both in pretty much every continuity he's appeared, and looking backwards I cannot help but notice that the fact that there's next to no meaningful daylight between his depictions has been the running gag of his [[Alpha Trion|disambiguation page]] since day one. If Shattered Glass remains a sticking point the Unicron/Primus style suite split approach is a reasonable compromise.

:I wouldn't say I'm married to any of this and counter-counter-proposals are welcome, but that's my two cents. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 14:08, 8 December 2024 (EST)
:I think just put a line at the end of the fallens intro article that says "while mostly a bad guy, there exists at least one universe (link to TF one section) where he's managed to defy all logic and be...good for once).[[User:Poliwag06|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06|talk]]) 21:53, 8 December 2024 (EST)

I'm for splitting the Thirteen, for the same reasons Saix gave. If that doesn't work, I think the versions of Alpha Trion should be merged. It's the inconsistency that drives me batty. [[User:Boingus|--Boingus]] ([[User talk:Boingus|talk]]) 22:12, 8 December 2024 (EST)

===Checkpoint? (01/18/2025)===
This topic seems to have gotten as much interaction as it's going to get, so to take stock before it falls off the agenda completely:

:*'''Votes for splitting the Thirteen across the board:''' 4 (Locoman, Saix, BlueJayWarrior, Boingus)
:*'''Votes against:''' 8 (Escargon, Sabrblade, Wadapan, Daytonjhammon, M Sipher, Exim93, Dark T Zeratul, AzimuthAcolyte)

That seems like a pretty resounding 2:1 "no," but the discussion also generated some possible compromises/suggestions for future-proofing:

:*'''Votes for more widespread use of "Conceptual History" sections:''' 3 (Sabrblade, Daytonjhammon, AzimuthAcolyte)
:*'''Votes to merge Alpha Trion (with potential SG suite) for consistency:''' 3 (Sabrblade, AzimuthAcolyte, Boingus)

Lastly it generated some cross-bleed from the debates on [[Talk:The Fallen|The Fallen's talk page]] about some updates now that we're 16 years out from his [[live-action film series]] star turn:

1) Moving the page to "Megatronus":
:*'''For:''' 1 (Dark T Zeratul)
:*'''Against:''' 2 (Sabrblade, M Sipher)

2) Swapping back to a Dreamwave-style mainpic:
:*'''For:''' 3 (Sabrblade, Ezim93, M Sipher)

If anyone wants to try to resuscitate the mega-split speak now. If not, thoughts on the compromise proposals?

The Fallen discussion should probably return to his own page. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 13:33, 18 January 2025 (EST)
:My stances remain unchanged on all of the above. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 13:55, 18 January 2025 (EST)
::I'd be fine with splitting, but if we don't, we ''absolutely'' need to merge the Alpha Trions. There's no good justification for the others being together and him being split.
::As for the Fallen... I feel the need to point out that it's not ''just'' One Megatronus that didn't use the name. EVERY toyline and piece of media in the last decade — RID15, the Prime Wars cartoons, the POTP toy, the offhand mentions in Cyberverse — have used "Megatronus", completely dropping the idea that he stopped being Megatronus and became the Fallen. It's evidently how Hasbro thinks of the character; the Studio Series toy provides plenty of evidence that they ''could'' have just called the AOTP toy "The Fallen" if they'd wanted to. -[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 15:51, 18 January 2025 (EST)
:::I am also pro-merging Alpha Trions with a SG subpage along the lines of what we do for Primus and Unicron. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 16:11, 18 January 2025 (EST)
::::I disagree that we need to put SG Trion on a separate page. Just have his Shattered Glass section open with "In the mirror universe of Shattered Glass, Alpha Trion was..." --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 16:58, 18 January 2025 (EST)
::::I'm pro merging Alpha Trion as well and adding conceptual history. Fallen/Megatronus discussion I'm good with taking back to his page. [[User:Ezim93|Ezim93]] ([[User talk:Ezim93|talk]]) 16:20, 18 January 2025 (EST)

:Here's my 5 cents. We are under no obligation to be consistent with how we treat the members of the Thirteen. If it makes sense for the characters, we can have Alpha Trions on separate pages because he has a long rich history of appearances in wide and varied media, including media in which he is not a member of the Thirteen, and we can also have Amalgamous Prime on one page because he doesn't. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:48, 18 January 2025 (EST)
::I'm in agreement with this. "Consistency" is nice until it isn't, and merging Alpha's pages... isn't. I feel like that's just gonna result in a clusterfuck. "Conceptual history" is fine to add, but frankly I feel like only like... maybe only a third of the 13 would even ''need'' it. There's really not a lot to most of these. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 22:07, 18 January 2025 (EST)
:::I'm curious what would be the negative result of merging Alpha Trion's pages. The thing is that they ''are'' basically all identical barring the Shattered Glass version, and even that one is functionally the same guy, just evil. RID01, Energon, Animated and ROTF Alpha Trion are all footnotes, which just leaves us with G1 Trion (sometimes of the Thirteen), Aligned Trion (of the Thirteen), Cyberverse Trion (of the Thirteen) and One Trion (of the Thirteen). Is there some complicating factor that I'm missing...? --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 22:38, 18 January 2025 (EST)
:::: Honestly, I think this just sold me on the idea of merging all the Alpha Trion pages, including the Shattered Glass version, into one page. A Conceptual History section could explain his development from sage to member of the Thirteen, with a paragraph about his Shattered Glass version. [[User:Daytonjhammon|Daytonjhammon]] ([[User talk:Daytonjhammon|talk]]) 00:02, 19 January 2025 (EST)
:::::As I stated above, I used to be firmly against the idea of the Alpha Trions being merged, because of the facts that he wasn't originally supposed to be one of the Thirteen (a ship that has long since sailed), he was never a singularity like the other 13ers were (which no longer matters at all now since that concept was done away with), and he has a Shattered Glass version (but so too do Primus and Unicron, now, and their pages have set a good workable precedent for how to deal with SG versions of "set dressing characters" like them and the Thirteen). But now, as time goes on, the more it begins to feel like we're just keeping the Alpha Trions separate for more pedantic reasons than are necessary, especially since the AOTP toyline looks to be drawing influence from all continuities for its specific roster of the Thirteen, as if to say that the AOTP toys of the Thirteen represent *all* versions of the Thirteen (meaning AOTP Alpha Trion will represent *all* Alpha Trions).
:::::Sipher mentioned that conceptual history sections would only benefit a small number of the Thirteen, and, well, yes, that is a true statement. But the idea wouldn't be to give ''all'' of the Thirteen conceptual history sections, just the few that would need it. And a merged. But there being only a few that would need it no less diminishes the need of those few.
:::::However, I definitely draw the line at putting SG characters on the same webpages as their non-SG counterparts, as I go back to [https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Talk:Transformers:_Shattered_Glass_(franchise)#Separate_Continuity.3Fthe original discussion about that very subject] and all the reasons given there (particularly from Steve-o, whom I already quoted above) for why SG characters should '''not''' share a webpage with their non-SG counterparts. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 00:47, 19 January 2025 (EST)
::::I feel like "they're all basically the same" is a charge that can be leveled at a lot of characters who are present in multiple continuity families. I'm all in favour of keeping non-entities to one page each, but Alpha Trion meets the threshold for actually having enough detail to have separate articles. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:32, 19 January 2025 (EST)
:My votes: No to splitting the 13 articles, yes for conceptual history, no to merging Trion (maybe expanding his disambig a la Sideways'?), no to moving the Fallen, maybe to changing his mainpic (compare to UT or Aligned characteers with major body changes - UT generally sticks with the Armada bodies, but Aligned favours Prime bodies over WFC). [[User:BattleBlade|BattleBlade]] ([[User talk:BattleBlade|talk]]) 18:01, 18 January 2025 (EST)
:I also think that it wouldn´t be appropriate to separate the pages of the thirteen and that the articles about Alpha Trion should be merged, after he become one of the 13 he has been mostly the same across all media. --[[User:MikeOsix|MikeOsix]] ([[User_talk:MikeOsix|talk]]) 20:57, 18 January 2024 (EST)
My vote is that we should keep Prime pages *mostly* non-split- I do, however, think there is merit to a "Conceptual History" part, going over different variations of the characters over the Years. I originally wanted Alpha's pages to be kept apart- but after some talking, I figure it's best for him to also enjoy a conceptual history rather than a disambiguation page. (I still love Disambiguation pages though.)
On The Fallen's page getting a Dreamwave-style picture: I give it a hard thumbs up. That seems to be the design Hasbro is sticking with compared to the skeleton-furnace guy from the movies. -- [[User:OptiMay Primal|OptiMay Primal]] ([[User talk: BattleBlade|talk]]) 21:54, 18 January 2024 (PST)
:I cannot see any benefit to smushing all of the Alpha Trion articles together. Every time this happens, we get a lengthy, unfocused mess of a page that wards off attempts at maintenance because it's so large. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 12:16, 19 January 2025 (EST)
::I'm personally against merging all the Trions, but I could be convinced if someone sandboxes a merged page first as a proof of concept. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 13:59, 24 January 2025 (EST)
At Cyberlink's suggestion, I've slapped together a rough prototype of a merged Alpha Trion suite broadly mirroring the Fallen's setup that can be seen–
:*'''[[User:AzimuthAcolyte/Sandbox/Alpha Trion|HERE]]'''
Intro etc not final, of course. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 16:27, 24 January 2025 (EST)
:I like this. It's no longer or less focused than [[Unicron]], for example. I'm still kind of dubious about the need to exclude Shattered Glass versions from these cross-continuity characters, but at least SG Trion is more substantial than SG Unicron. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 16:31, 24 January 2025 (EST)
:Posting to confirm I'm in favor of this. [[User:Ezim93|Ezim93]] ([[User talk:Ezim93|talk]]) 12:49, 25 January 2025 (EST)
:Yeah I like it too, when so many of his incarnations are so similar the unified article feels more user friendly [[User:LenaPrime|LenaPrime]] ([[User talk:LenaPrime|talk]]) 12:57, 25 January 2025 (EST)
:Adding that I think this works pretty well. - [[User:IGEBM13|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13|talk]]) 18:42, 25 January 2025 (EST)
:Thought I'd stick my two cents in. I think this would work. If Unicron can have a merged page like this, then it should certainly work for Trion. [[User:Hilfam|Hilfam]] ([[User talk:Hilfam|talk]]) 23:44, 25 January 2025 (EST)
I've also started working on prototypes of rewrites / updates to Prima and The Fallen's pages, which can be seen...
:*'''[[User:Daytonjhammon/Sandbox/Prima|HERE for Prima]]''' and '''[[User:Daytonjhammon/Sandbox/The Fallen|HERE for The Fallen]]'''.
Discussion for The Fallen should probably stay on his [[Talk:The Fallen|own talk page]], but I'm linking them here since both have "conceptual history" sections I've drafted up. [[User:Daytonjhammon|Daytonjhammon]] ([[User talk:Daytonjhammon|talk]]) 13:50, 26 January 2025 (EST)

===Checkpoint 2 (05/05/2025)===
This definitely fell way off the agenda but there was sufficient interest that I believe it is worth circling back. Following Dayton's excellent work on Prima and the Fallen's Conceptual History section going live, the final point of order remains the prospect of merging Alpha Trion (with SG suite) to reflect his Aligned-forward characterization and bring him in line with the other 12 + 2 (Thirteen, Primus, Unicron) "man-shaped set dressing" characters.

Again, a full mock-up of this concept can be seen-

:*'''[[User:AzimuthAcolyte/Sandbox/Alpha Trion|HERE]]'''

The current tally stands at:

:*'''Votes for merging Alpha Trion into one cross-continuity article with SG sub-page:''' 12 (Sabrblade, AzimuthAcolyte, Boingus, Broadside, Escargon, Ezim93, Daytonjhammon, MikeOsix, OptiMay Primal, LenaPrime, IGEBM13, Hilfam)
:*'''Votes against:''' 5 (abates, M Sipher, BattleBlade, Saix, Cyberlink420)

That's overwhelming support a ways past 2:1. Does anyone care to answer a last call for comment?

Suggestions or concerns for the prototype are particularly welcome. For my part I would appreciate assistance drafting a Conceptual History section. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 14:18, 5 May 2025 (EDT)
: Chipping in to reiterate that I'm in favour, though I'm unconvinced that the SG subpage is necessary. I do recognise that it's in line with how we currently treat Unicron, but like... is there anything we gain from having it be a separate page that we couldn't get from just putting "in one mirror universe, alpha trion was a real sicko!" at the top of the section? --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 18:20, 6 May 2025 (EDT)
::On principle alone, I'm against putting SG characters on the same pages as their non-SG counterparts, no matter what. The day we make such allowance for just one of them is the day we open the floodgates for potentially doing that for any and all SG characters. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 19:54, 6 May 2025 (EDT)
:::The (SG) system is simple. What exactly does messing with it accomplish? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 20:28, 8 May 2025 (EDT)
::::See, my understanding was not that SG characters are "special exceptions", it's that we treat Shattered Glass as its own continuity family (and likewise SG Animated, et al). It's not "messing with" the system to put the SG version of a character on a cross-continuity family page for that character. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 16:53, 13 May 2025 (EDT)
:::::It's messing with what Thylacine mentions for the sake of insisting on making categorization exceptions for the Thirteen. It's not useful to either editor or reader, especially if we're going to do the pointless lateral move that is "/Shattered Glass" anyway. (SG) is straightforward and easy to parse as opposed to "here's the explicitly negative AU guy buried here because arbitrary wiki reasons". [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 18:42, 13 May 2025 (EDT)
:::Looks like it doesn't matter anymore, but the difference between SG and non-SG material - the whole fact that SG exists to be an irreconcilable opposite to G1 - is more fundamental and important than the sum total of all appearances and history of at least 10 of the 13. We should not be wiping away important conceptual distinctions for the sake of unimportant asterisk characters who basically only ever existed in a list. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 16:59, 13 May 2025 (EDT)

== International Sightings ==

So, as of late, mentions of "toy appeared in (non-US country) without prior announcement" type lines have been getting purged from the wiki. This makes me wonder: am I allowed to even mention them anymore when a new toy appears somewhere? I'm not really sure why these relatively harmless information lines are getting removed, nor am I really a fan of it, but if I can't mention them anymore I will happily oblige.[[User:Poliwag06|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06|talk]]) 21:04, 7 January 2025 (EST)
:They're being removed because "toy first showed up at a random store in Asia" is not useful information. That's how toy retail has worked for decades. Hasbro deigning to announce some product doesn't make it the standard. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 22:57, 7 January 2025 (EST)
::Oh, ok, I'll keep that in mind from now on.[[User:Poliwag06|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06|talk]]) 23:11, 7 January 2025 (EST)

==First revealed at (some regular online update)==
On a similar note to the international sightings, what do people think of "toy was first revealed in Hasbro Instagram post / Fans First Friday / Pulse livestream of whatever date," etc.? We note this constantly, because it's another fact to include about a just-announced toy nobody owns yet. A year later it looks unimportant. Is this something we like and value, or more of a space-filing habit? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 07:34, 8 January 2025 (EST)
:I think it's a lot of blather, but at least it's documenting Hasbro marketing as opposed to random retail appearances. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 09:25, 8 January 2025 (EST)
: I'm lukewarm at best on 'em. But often these announcements are followed up almost immediately by pre-orders opening up through official channels, and that feels a bit more... noteworthy. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 12:31, 8 January 2025 (EST)
: Seems pretty relevant to me! There's value in preserving a toy's history, after all. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 10:14, 6 April 2025 (EDT))

==Update Navigation==
Should the Navigation sidebar be changed to replace [[Transformers: Legacy|Legacy]] with [[Transformers: Age of the Primes|Age of the Primes]] or should we wait a bit?--[[User:CyclonustheWarrior|CyclonustheWarrior]] ([[User talk:CyclonustheWarrior|talk]]) 20:49, 2 February 2025 (EST)
:Good question. I think we could change it now since almost all of wave 1 is out at retail over in Asia, but I’ll wait for someone higher than me to make the final decision lol - [[User:IGEBM13|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13|talk]]) 23:10, 5 February 2025 (EST)

==Adding a "Transformers in [Country name]" section to country articles==
So, by some weird coincidence, a lot of my edits in these past months have involved expanding on the quirks of how individual aspects of the Transformers brand were represented in countries like [[Brazil]], [[Argentina]], [[Greece]], and [[Portugal]] - however; something that I've noticed is that there's usually no comprehensive summary of this information in the actual pages we have for those countries, with most or all of it being restricted to the individual articles regarding those things instead (for instance; Argentina had a whole three companies that produced Transformers toys with [[Antex]], [[Comando Toys]], and [[Lynsa]], but none of them are even mentioned in Argentina's page!). As such, and in the spirit of making our wiki more international, I propose that we add a small section to every country page specifically regarding the presence of the Transformers brand within it.

Some information that could go into these sections, if available (naturally, not ''everything'' here needs to be mentioned):
* When Transformers media first premiered in the country
* When Transformers toys first released in the country
* Previous releases of [[pre-Transformers]] in the country, if any (e.g.; Italy's ''Trasformer'', the UK's ''Convertors'', Finland's ''Diaclone'', etc.)
* Brands that might have made toys or merchandise for Transformers in the country, if any (e.g.; [[Estrela]] in Brazil, [[IGA]] in Mexico, [[GiG]] in Italy, [[El Greco]] in Greece, etc.)
* Notable figures, variants, and/or entire toylines that are exclusive to the country, if any (obviously, a fully comprehensive list would be difficult for a country like Japan, but it seems feasible for others here.)
* Transformers media that's unique to the country, if any (again; it would be hard to form a comprehensive list for Japan or the US, but it might not be too difficult elsewhere.)
* Peculiar quirks and factoids regarding the distribution of Transformers toys in the country, if any (e.g.; Galaxy Shuttle releasing in Italy, Star Saber releasing in Portugal, Spain's translated G1 blister cards, [[Sonokong]]'s many odd releases of Transformers toys in South Korea, etc.)
* Transformers-connected artists that were born in the country (e.g.; Brazil's [[Marcelo Matere]], Spain's [[José Avilés]], etc.)
* Perhaps some notable aspects of the fandom in the country (e.g., fan organizations, conventions - whether they're [[Conventions|official]] or [[Unofficial conventions|unofficial]] - etc.)

Editing these sections could also make for a pretty fun multinational effort: certainly, Transformers fans from all over the world have pretty unique knowledge about the brand in their regions that's undocumented until now, and it would be pretty cool for them to visit the pages for their respective countries and see a section that basically invites them to add that knowledge. If this idea seems acceptable then I would be happy to move ahead with introducing the section to some of the countries that I'm most familiar with (mostly in Europe and Latin America) - let me know what everyone else thinks! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 10:07, 6 April 2025 (EDT))
:I like this idea! I think it’ll be really helpful for both readers and the site’s general organization to have information about international Transformers products and media on their respective countries’ pages. I’m not too well-versed in the foreign aspects of the brand outside of Japan, but I do know one piece of information we can add to Russia’s page is that ''Masterforce'' was the first show to air there :D - [[User:IGEBM13|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13|talk]]) 10:47, 6 April 2025 (EDT)
::I had no idea about that, how interesting! Hopefully more people can give the go-ahead to this. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 11:04, 6 April 2025 (EDT))
:::This strikes me as a proposal with a lot potential if we can get enough manpower behind it. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 17:00, 6 April 2025 (EDT)
:I've made versions of this proposed section for the Portugal, Spain, and Brazil pages, and posted them on [[User:FortressMaxxing/Sandbox|my sandbox]]. Any thoughts would be welcome! Also, shouldn't we maybe add the country flags to their respective pages? The Wikipedia SVGs are on public domain, so I guess we could just import those. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 09:43, 7 April 2025 (EDT))
::I like the way these early write-ups look, it could prove very interesting. Though we should only add the country flags if they appeared in fiction, as we do with the [[Soviet Union]] or [[United States of America]]. Otherwise it's just not important. Every country has a flag, you don't need to come ''here'' to look at them or find out their capital cities, populations, national birds, etc. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 11:01, 7 April 2025 (EDT)
:::I mean, if we're also to discuss the "meta" details of Transformers in the country - meaning that the pages are no longer restricted to just fiction - then I think it makes sense to at least have a country flag up on the opening paragraph, no? I'm not saying we need to add an Wikipedia-like infobox with the capital and population count and whatever else, but if we also have stuff like logos for companies in their respective pages then it makes sense to at least have what's basically the largest and most important international identifier that a country has attached to a page about it. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 11:29, 7 April 2025 (EDT))
:Given how there seem to be no objections to this project, I hope that it's fine to begin adding these sections to their respective pages during this weekend. I have added entries for Argentina, Italy, and Greece [[User:FortressMaxxing/Sandbox|to my sandbox]], so, together with the other three I previously shared; that will be six "The Transformers franchise in X country" sections coming from me - hopefully others will also be interested in adding similar sections to the pages of whatever countries they're most familiar with! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 18:37, 11 April 2025 (EDT))
::I think the names could be simplified to "Transformers in X". [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 19:51, 11 April 2025 (EDT)
:::That was actually close to the previous name I had in this topic ("The Transformers in X") before renaming it because I thought it could be a little ambiguous, haha - but actually, I think you're right, "Transformers in Brazil" / "Transformers in Greece" / etc. does sound better and I guess all the ambiguities are kinda cleared up in context of the contents of the sections themselves! "Transformers in X" it shall be then, I've now again renamed this topic accordingly. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 20:06, 11 April 2025 (EDT))
::::Yeah, it could be an ambiguous statement by itself, but we're not making "Transformers in Brazil" for all the fictional times Transformers characters appeared in Brazil because that's already covered by [[Brazil]] itself. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 20:29, 11 April 2025 (EDT)
:Ayo, I posted the first batch of "Transformers in X" sections a few days ago in the [[Portugal]], [[Spain]], [[Italy]], [[Greece]], [[Brazil]], and [[Argentina]] pages! There are still way more countries that need a similar level of development and since I won't be able to do all of them alone, I wanted to highlight at least the most important ones in the hopes that maybe other users will have an interest in working on them. So, here are '''the pages that most urgently need a "Transformers in X" section''' (plus '''some of the things they should mention'''):

* [[Japan]], obviously: The birth of the transforming robot as a Japanese cultural product (see [[Yonezawa Toys|Yonezawa]] and some of the later transforming robot toys leading up to Takara's Cosmo Countach and eventually the Diaclone Car Robots), the country's transition from Diaclone to Transformers, the introduction of the original show to Japan, a brief mention of the original media and toylines that were only released there, an assessment of the popularity of the franchise in Japan relative to other 'giant robot'-centric media like Gundam and NGE (Also, I've noticed that there is already a small "non-fiction" section that briefly touches on the importance of Japan to the Transformers: it could be used as a starting basis, and I guess that it also suggests someone already had the idea for a similar wiki-project!)
* The [[United States]], also quite obviously: Brief summarization of the birth and sustained popularity of the Transformers brand in America, the most prominent retail exclusives that were only launched in U.S. stores, BotCon and all the other big fan conventions
* [[United Kingdom]]: Received a pair of pre-Transformers toylines with the Grandstand Convertors and Tandy's Galactic Man, the UK Marvel Transformers comic, large conventions like TFNation and TFUKcon
* [[France]]: Received a pre-Transformers toyline with [[Joustra|Ceji / Joustra]] releasing Diaclone, Orli Jouet's Robotrack, later Joustra-made G1 Transformers toys, original cartoon had a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itPo0Q9zmrc|a pretty funky unique theme song], major national toy company [[Majorette]] would briefly become a Transformers licensee in the 2000s
* [[Finland]]: Received a pre-Transformers toyline with Takara directly releasing Diaclone, "black Tracks" was unique to it (and later homaged with [[Loudpedal]])
* [[China]]: Hasbro factories, the Chinese G1 reissue toyline, the commercial success of Age of Extinction and how it brought about a sharp rise in the popularity of Transformers across the country, [[Nezha: Transformers (franchise)|Nezha]]
* [[Mexico]]: [[IGA]] and their unique variants of G1 figures
* [[Venezuela]] (which somehow doesn't exist yet despite [[Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 17|already having an in-fiction mention]]?): [[Rubiplas]] made some unique Mini-Vehicles
* [[Peru]] and [[Chile]]: [[Lynsa]] released multiple unique Mini-Vehicles in both countries

:On an unrelated note, check out these fancy new GoBoxes down below! If anyone wants to do more in this style (quirky collage of country flag, plus national iconography, plus a Transformer toy that's emblematic of that specific country in some way) then that'd be pretty sweet! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 17:47, 16 April 2025 (EDT))
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::Hey, I noticed that a lot of your claims aren't really sourced, it would be nice if you could cite your sources for us. [[User:Wildstrike|Wildstrike]] ([[User talk:Wildstrike|talk]]) 08:01, 21 April 2025 (EDT)
:::For sure! A lot of what's been added to these pages isn't cited because it is already discussed at greater length in their respective articles (and usually cited in said articles) - nonetheless; I will go ahead and add a more extensive round of sources soon. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 12:54, 21 April 2025 (EDT))
:::: Great! Remember to post about that here when it happens. [[User:Wildstrike|Wildstrike]] ([[User talk:Wildstrike|talk]]) 13:45, 21 April 2025 (EDT)
::::: All done, I've provided as many citations for whatever information's more obscure or not as well-documented in the English web as I could! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 16:21, 21 April 2025 (EDT))
:::::: Thank you! I appreciate it, though I have noticed that your source about Portuguese people seeing Star Convoy on retail is only available to members of the Facebook group. I understand that information for things like this is hard to come by so if can't change it it's alright but it would be great if you could list a publicly available source instead. [[User:Wildstrike|Wildstrike]] ([[User talk:Wildstrike|talk]]) 08:58, 22 April 2025 (EDT)
::::::: Oops, I didn't realize that Transformers Portugal was private on Facebook - but let this not be a problem, because I've just added a translated screenshot to that citation instead! Although I must also add that, unfortunately, I don't know how to really cite the later portion of that trivia - that Star Convoy is also really common on the Portuguese secondary market - because this is basically the product of my own personal experience of living in Portugal and seeing at least four loose Star Convoys on the Portuguese secondary market in the past couple of years across various occasions, all of them being the original version with the white trailer rather than the later reissue (thus suggesting that they come from the aforementioned retail distribution), and all of them being sold for really cheap prices rounding just ~20-40 euros from people who clearly did not know about this being an unusual toy (I got one myself one circa ~2022!). It's just that I frankly didn't know how to cite this in the page (Would "[[User:FortressMaxxing|This editor]] can attest to seeing an inordinate amount of Portuguese Star Convoy copies on the secondary market" be too anecdotal of a reference to have?), so... There's that. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 13:04, 22 April 2025 (EDT))
:::::::: Don't worry, the fist citation should be enough, now's the time to move on to the rest of the countries. I'm a bit busy at the moment but I might be able to take on the UK write up. [[User:Wildstrike|Wildstrike]] ([[User talk:Wildstrike|talk]]) 13:53, 22 April 2025 (EDT)
::::::::: Sweet, I'll be excited to see what you write up! Tell us here when you do :) ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 13:58, 22 April 2025 (EDT))
:I made a first draft of the UK write-up at my sandbox [[User:Wildstrike/Sandbox/United_Kingdom|here]]. It is not at all done I'm passing this through the people to make sure I didn't get anything wrong, and to hear out any suggestions. Also I didn't mention the Tandy's Galactic Man figure because it doesn't seem to be exclusive to to the UK. [[User:Wildstrike|Wildstrike]] ([[User talk:Wildstrike|talk]]) 11:14, 26 April 2025 (EDT)
::Hey, it's good, short but very well-cited! I do think Galactic Man merits at least a brief one-line mention since apparently the UK was the only other territory beyond the U.S. where it was released in (and also the UK Galactic Man might be slightly different, per how the pre-TF page describes him as [[Pre-Transformers#Pre-Transformers lines|"''almost'' identical"]]?), but otherwise, I have no disagreement with the information presented here. Very curious to see how you're gonna expand on that draft! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 18:46, 27 April 2025 (EDT))
:::Okay, I did a bit of research and according to the [https://astromagnum.blogspot.com/2024/04/galactic-man-tandy-radio-shack-shackwave.html Astro Magnum] blog the Tandy version of Galactic Man has slightly different packaging, different stickers, and is made of materials more resistant to the yellowing prevalent in the Radio Shack versions of the toy. I'll be sure to edit the draft when I have time. Also, I found about an [https://batterseapowerstation.co.uk/retailers/transformers/ official transformers store] at the Battersea power station which I plan on incorporating at some point. [[User:Wildstrike|Wildstrike]] ([[User talk:Wildstrike|talk]]) 11:49, 28 April 2025 (EDT)
:Ooohh, here's a pretty cool thing that I found out which definitely should be added to the Peru page: there's a mall [https://www.facebook.com/MuseoTF with a Transformers toy museum within it], and apparently it's been in operation since 2020! It even features a display specifically for [https://scontent.flis9-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/483676983_1040341464571272_305592738604936521_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=OsCqdAxWZTQQ7kNvwGe1-WQ&_nc_oc=Adn6enKyI9P6hsp1VO2t492l7iu8t1CtWQCm3bbMYXOemGAOpKTj-0fB96Co-Jhqnm4&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.flis9-1.fna&_nc_gid=0aKRlr6ClLSdhzhjlFM8cA&oh=00_AfFq1ClChLr67ItyZAhHBe0MPRKxcrRFUfQLY48v0THRPA&oe=68149CCC Transformers stuff made in Peru], which I think would be a great photographic addition to the article :) ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 20:36, 27 April 2025 (EDT))

== Size of this page ==

Could someone archive the last year on this page? It's getting ridiculously long and is hard to scroll through. [[User:Hilfam|Hilfam]] ([[User talk:Hilfam|talk]]) 19:48, 15 April 2025 (EDT)
:Done. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 20:25, 15 April 2025 (EDT)

== ToonTown / Korean Transformers that might or might not be bootlegs ==
Hey, so... What do we do about [https://x.com/tfwiki/status/1036114311142363136?lang=ar this], and [https://lmb3.net/2024/12/29/blog-2500-toy-review-transformers-korean-modified-optimus-prime/ this], and [https://tformers.com/daily-prime-korean-generation-2-optimus-prime-gold-watch/43599/news.html this], and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYJ8Nev7DGo this]? It basically seems like there's a massive ambiguity as to whether or not these toys are bootlegs, and while at least one of them (see the recently-edited "Globo" section on the [[knockoff]] page) has distinct bootleg origins, it's also worth remembering that there is [[Radio AM Robot|at least one known case of a bootleg being later rebranded into an official Transformers toy]], so... Maybe this is not much of an indicator?

In the replies to that first tweet, there's a person who says that "[https://x.com/tfwiki/status/1036114311142363136/ Hasbro's legal stance is that if it has their copyright on the box, it is an official product. This is what they've told me in the past when inquiring about other products]". Assuming that this is the case, and given that all of these have a Hasbro copyright on their packaging despite how genuinely weird they are, should we add them to their respective character pages, as well as maybe creating a separate page for ToonTown as a Transformers-associated company? The [[Soundwave (G1)/merchandise#Transformers Gum|Soundwave]] and [[Starscream (G1)/merchandise#Transformers Gum|Starscream]] ''Transformers Gum'' tabs already mention their ToonTown releases, so it seems like it kind of follows to add the others, no? I've left them a mention on the knockoff page as of now, but it would be good to get a final decision as to where exactly they should stay on this wiki. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 21:58, 19 April 2025 (EDT))
:Decades ago, [[Raksha]] wrote that the Toon Town stuff had been released in both South Korea and Taiwan (https://web.archive.org/web/20080917123934fw_/http://www.plumed-serpent.com/swartifacts.html). Added to what you wrote above, I believe that is the sum of all the knowledge we have on the issue, so it would be hard to write an article about it. I agree that since we have the Soundwave and Starscream stuff, the other confirmed releases are fair game to include too. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 15:18, 7 May 2025 (EDT)
::Here's another one, this time not saying Toon Town, still showing the "real" logos and symbols, and said by its owner to be a knockoff: https://toy-wizards.com/2019/03/16/super-rare-korean-transformers-toys-at-tf-con-and-the-conspiracy-theory-behind-them/?amp I'm really drawing a blank on Toon Town and it is possible we will never get enough verified info to be worth an article here. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 18:53, 7 May 2025 (EDT)
:::One more source for now: http://fredsworkshop.com/vkorea.html --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 18:57, 7 May 2025 (EDT)

::::Argh, another, and with even more links at the bottom, and were no closer to a conclusive truth. http://fredsworkshop.com/vkorea5.html --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 19:05, 7 May 2025 (EDT)
:::::For what it's worth, I think it'd be good to have a page laying out the ambiguity of the matter, explaining what we know and how hard to verify it all is. Sorta like the [[unknown Generation 1 animation studios]]. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 19:35, 7 May 2025 (EDT)
:::::: Yeah, I'd agree with this. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 20:45, 7 May 2025 (EDT)
::::::: Seconding this, it seems like we have more than enough to at least create an article about this weird company that explains the ambiguity. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 01:15, 8 May 2025 (EDT))
:Alright, as per the above discussion, the [[ToonTown]] article is now up! I didn't go over every source mentioned here yet and therefore still haven't added every ToonTown-branded figure to it (and neither to the character pages, the currently existing wikilinks just to go their broader toy sections for now), but hopefully this is a good start. Would love to see your contributions to this page, if you have any to give! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 09:09, 8 May 2025 (EDT))
::Update, the remaining ToonTown toys and merchandise that I could find has also been added. Turn out to be a shorter affair than expected! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 09:53, 8 May 2025 (EDT))
:::Thank you for setting this up so quickly! I am doing my best to state very clearly that these might or might not be legit, that if they're knockoffs they aren't like your typical ones... The last thing I'd ever want would be for this wiki to give people the sense that fake stuff was real, but we can present the nebulous case and leave it to readers to judge. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 10:58, 8 May 2025 (EDT)
::::All good! This is just such an interesting case that it does really feel like it needs to be in the wiki insofar as we don't know whether or not they're fake. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 11:07, 8 May 2025 (EDT))
::Hey, Google Lens led me to the discovery of another ToonTown oddity and I'd love some community help in finding out more about it before it's added into the article: [https://m.blog.naver.com/eoiipp/130144214329 This Optimus Prime model kit] doesn't appear to be based on any Kabaya / Transformers Gum kit that I know of (and the Transformers Gum section on the Optimus merchandise page says that his ToonTown kit comes as a pack-in with Starscream rather than being a standalone like this one), and in fact; he actually looks to be fairly sizable and complex compared to the usual Kabaya affair. On [https://m.totoy.com/product/%EB%AF%B8%EB%8B%B4%EC%82%B0%EC%97%85-%ED%8A%B8%EB%9E%9C%EC%8A%A4%ED%8F%AC%EB%A8%B8-g2-%EB%A1%9C%EB%B4%87-%ED%8A%B8%EB%A0%88%EC%9D%BC%EB%9F%AC-%EC%98%B5%ED%8B%B0%EB%A8%B8%EC%8A%A4-%ED%94%84%EB%9D%BC%EC%9E%84/5333/ this listing] for the same kit, you can zoom in and see what seems to be the usual ToonTown / 3D Licensing International markings, but most importantly; both of those links identify him as being made by a company called "Midam Industry" which even seems to have its own unique logo on the upper right corner of the toys (albeit it's pretty difficult to make out with how low-res all these pictures are), but that I can't find anything about them on the web. Does anyone know more about this Midam Industry Optimus, as well as maybe potentially being aware of other kits from the same series? Cheers! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 16:46, 8 May 2025 (EDT))
:::After searching for a little while, I believe that this is, in fact, the only Transformers kit released by Midam Industry (although it has a handful of variants!), thus; it - as well as a Midam Industry entry - has been added to their respective pages. I've taken the liberty to classify it as a toy rather than a piece of merchandise since it is, for the standards of a Transformers model kit, actually a fairly elaborate and fully-transforming model that doesn't really seem to count as "merchandise" in the same way that Transformers Gum stuff does (it doesn't even come with any food!) - hopefully others will be in agreement on this. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 19:16, 8 May 2025 (EDT))
::::And, just as I thought I was done with editing the ToonTown page for the day, I realized that the packaging for these kits advertises other kits, even though no pictures of those seem to be available. Aw well, duty calls... ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 19:31, 8 May 2025 (EDT))

== Proposing a "The Transformers (Latin American toylines)" page ==
So the title is self-explanatory, but basically; I've noticed that our Generation 1 navbox is missing the many, many Latin American Transformers G1 toylines like those produced by [[Estrela]], [[Antex]], [[Lynsa]], [[IGA]], etc. Since there might be way too many for them to all to be individually listed in the navbox, and since we already have the "[[The Transformers (toyline)]]" (for the US toyline), "[[The Transformers (European toyline)]]", "[[Generation 1 (Japanese toyline)]]", and "[[The Transformers (Chinese toyline)]]" pages all on the navbox, shouldn't we also make a "The Transformers (Latin American toylines)" page where we list all of the known releases from the various Latin American toylines, with the eventual addition of some "Main article" tags for the manufacturers of each of those toylines? ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 19:49, 24 April 2025 (EDT))
:I don't think the toyline or name was consistent across Latin America, so it would be more "Generation 1 toylines in Latin America"?
::That's fair, it is true that most of them removed the 'The' prefix and were usually just called ''Transformers''. Since we don't use the ''The Transformers'' name for the Japanese toyline page then it does make sense to also not use it in this instance. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 22:33, 24 April 2025 (EDT))
:[[Generation 1 toylines in Latin America|Page has been made!]] ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 17:17, 25 April 2025 (EDT))

== Free Comic Book Day Worst Bot Ever preview ==

I know it’s standard procedure not to create articles for comic issues until the issue actually comes out, even if a small preview is officially released online. But I’m wondering if the Ballpoint preview issue should be an exception? It is just the online page preview Skybound put out a few months ago (I believe with a couple new pages), but since it is an officially released physical comic issue that new fans will be picking up and wanting to research, I figure there’s an argument to create the article now with what we know and simply update it when the graphic novel proper comes out. For now, the article would cover what’s in the FCBD issue, and when it comes out proper we’d add to/replace it with a full synopsis and include a note about how the first 16 pages were released on FCBD. Thoughts? [[User:Cylasbreakdown|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown|talk]]) 16:58, 3 May 2025 (EDT)

== Shattered Glass and cross-continuity-family pages ==

Felt like this was worth being discussed in its own section, so: at present, [[Unicron]], [[Primus]] and [[Alpha Trion]] all have dedicated "Shattered Glass" subpages suited out. They're unique in this respect; every other page for concepts that span multiple continuity families keep the Shattered Glass versions on the same page as everything else. A good example is [[Spark]]; even though Embers have a different name and are supposedly fundamentally different in the mirror universe, they still share a page. If we're going to treat Unicron, Primus and the Thirteen like cross-continuity concepts, rather than how we treat most characters, then I don't think we should make an exception to that for Shattered Glass.

To be clear, '''this is NOT proposing that we merge all Shattered Glass characters into their G1 counterparts'''. My position is that Shattered Glass is its own continuity family, and so we keep their pages separate, and I don't think there's something special about Shattered Glass that makes it an exception to what we're doing with the cross-continuity pages. Input would be appreciated. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 16:52, 14 May 2025 (EDT)
: I agree. Especially because Primus and Unicron have about a paragraph's worth of information on them each. [[User:Locoman|Locoman]] ([[User talk:Locoman|talk]]) 18:21, 14 May 2025 (EDT)
: SG is different enough that the character pages should be separated somehow. Otherwise it’d be jarring for those unfamiliar with SG to have the one batshit crazy evil Alpha Trion in and amongst all the nice ones. Personally, I’m on the same boat as Sabrblade back up in the Thirteen discussion from a few months ago. I think suite pages are a useful tool, not a necessary evil. It’s somewhat subjective, but I can see suite pages used in this way for other cross-continuity concepts where one universe diverges far enough from the norm. [[User:Cylasbreakdown|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown|talk]]) 18:49, 15 May 2025 (EDT)
::Moreso than one crazy evil [[Star Saber (G1)|Star Saber]] in and among all the nice ones? I don't think you're giving readers enough credit, frankly. If we opened the section "In one mirror universe, Alpha Trion was not a kindly mentor, but a cruel manipulator" I don't think anyone would think twice. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 22:25, 15 May 2025 (EDT)
:::Touché. [[User:Cylasbreakdown|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown|talk]]) 02:04, 16 May 2025 (EDT)

== Interwiki link request ==

Having reached another milestone in my ongoing project to document the non-''Transformers'' [[back-up strips]] printed in the Marvel UK book, I'd like to request that tfuk.app (<tt><nowiki>https://tfuk.app/wiki/$1</nowiki></tt>) gets added to the interwiki table. Thanks. [[User:TheLastGherkin|TheLastGherkin]] ([[User talk:TheLastGherkin|talk]]) 11:11, 20 May 2025 (EDT)
:Goddamn, this is an incredible amount of work: more than being added to the interwiki table, it frankly feels worthy of being pinned into the "sister wikis" section on the opening page. Great job! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 12:08, 20 May 2025 (EDT))
::Seconding Fortress on front page sister wiki status, frankly. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 12:31, 20 May 2025 (EDT)
::Thirded on adding it to the sister wikis list, that’s amazing. - [[User:IGEBM13|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13|talk]]) 16:07, 20 May 2025 (EDT)
:That seems eminently reasonable: [[tfuk:Main Page|The Transformers UK Appendix]] --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:15, 20 May 2025 (EDT)

Stormcloud (Energon)

2025-05-18T23:50:53Z

Abates: Out of universe

{{Factions|decepticon|{{factions/icons|custom=Energon Powerlinx Blue symbol.png|cLink=Powerlinx}}}}
{{disambigm|Stormcloud (disambiguation)|Vortex (disambiguation)}}
:''Stormcloud is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers: Energon (franchise)|Energon]] portion of the [[Unicron Trilogy continuity family]].''
[[File:Energon Stormcloud card.jpg|right|thumb|upright=2|]]

'''Stormcloud''' is a member of the [[Destruction Team]], five super-[[energon]]-powered military vehicles who combine to form the mighty [[Bruticus Maximus (Energon)|Bruticus Maximus]]. Rather than an independent individual in his own right, Stormcloud, along with his fellow Destruction Team members, are controlled by Bruticus Maximus' singular intelligence.

Sometimes he is known as '''Vortex'''.

Gifted with an awesome name, fit for the cover of one of the ''better'' heavy metal albums, he had no such destiny. No, his fate was to ''become'' a cloud—a cloud of ionized particles, that is.
{{TOCclear}}

==Fiction==
===''Energon'' cartoon===
[[Image:Distribution Stormcloud.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|]]
Shortly after awakening from their long slumber, Bruticus Maximus and [[Constructicon Maximus]] were ordered by [[Megatron (Armada)|Galvatron]] to pursue the fleeing [[Superion Maximus]] after the Autobot attempted to attack the Decepticon leader. Both combiners separated into their individual components and gave chase. They later pledged their allegiance to Galvatron, believing him to be the future of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{storylink|Wishes}}

When Six Shot pinpointed an Autobot signal on the planet's surface, Galvatron sent Constructicon Maximus and Bruticus Maximus out to investigate. The two combiners came upon Autobot refugees looking about the crashed ''Miranda II'' for survivors, and decided to have some fun by beating them up. [[Arcee (Energon)|Arcee]] and [[Kicker Jones|Kicker]] sped by to allow the Autobots to escape, and Bruticus Maximus split into Stormcloud and his other components to give them chase. They were unable to catch the pair, but came upon them again after the Omnicons had managed to clog up an energon pipeline, hindering the Decepticons' planetary defense grid. Bruticus Maximus assumed his combined form to gun them down, but was countered by the arrival of Optimus Prime and other Autobot reinforcements. {{storylink|Break Through}}

During a virtual training match between the Autobots and Decepticons, Stormcloud was part of [[Barricade (Energon)|Barricade]]'s Destruction Team, fighting the [[Air Team]] alongside the [[Construction Team]]. They combined into Bruticus Maximus to defeat Superion Maximus, only to be defeated in turn by [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Supreme]]. {{storylink|Distribution}}

Stormcloud and the other Destruction Team member eventually paid for their treachery during a final show down with the Air Team. Bruticus Maximus and [[Constructicon Maximus]] double teamed Superion Maximus, who held his own and destroyed Constructicon's spark before the Autobot was reduced to Storm Jet. However, the ghost of [[Dauntless Maximus|Superion's brother]] appeared, destroying [[Blackout (combiner)|Blackout]], giving Storm Jet the chance to procure Constructicons's dead limbs and recombine into Superion. Before Bruticus could recover, the Autobot pierced his spark causing an explosion which engulfed them all, killing Bruticus and his remaining components, including Stormcloud. {{storylink|Spark (episode)|Spark}}

{{note|Stormcloud was never referred to by name, nor was he ever presented as a sentient, individual being. Most of his appearances were as the right leg of Bruticus Maximus.}}

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==Toys==
===''Energon''===
{{anchor|Bruticus}}
[[File:TF-Super-Link-SD-21-Vorter.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|With him on rhythm, [[Storm Jet (Energon)|Storm Jet]] on bass and [[Duststorm (Energon)|Duststorm]] on drums, ''The Stormbringers'' were set to rock Cybertron!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Bruticus''' (Multi-pack, 2004)}}</ul>
:*''ID number:'' '''SD-21'''
:*''Release date'': [[October 14]], 2014
:*''Accessories'': Energon blaster, Decepticon-type energon star
{{toydesigner|[[Eric Siebenaler]] (Hasbro), [[Takio Ejima]] (TakaraTomy)}}

: [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)#Takara Super Link toyline|Super Link]]'' '''Vorter''' shares a mold with his teammate [[Blackout (combiner)#Toys|Blast Off]], transforming into an orange and brown assault helicopter somewhat similar to an AH-1 Cobra.

: Vorter can form an arm or leg to any ''Energon''-style "[[Powerlinx]] [[Combiner]]" super robot, though his nominal placement is as the right leg to [[Bruticus Maximus (Energon)#Toys|Bruticus]]. His quintuple-barreled "super energon" cannon can form either a hand or footplate for his limb-modes.

: All five members of Bruticus were only available in the Takara ''Super Link'' line as part of a complete super-robot multi-pack, released in the seventeenth and final wave of toys, of which Bruticus was the only release.

: This mold was also used for the [[Fun Publications]] [[Transformers Collectors' Club]]-[[exclusive]] ''[[Transformers Timelines (fiction)|Timelines]]'' [[Topspin (Classics)#Toys|Topspin]], and the ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' (2008) [[Bruticus (G1)#Universe (2008)|Bruticus Maximus]] team members [[Vortex (G1)#Universe (2008)|Vortex]] and [[Swindle (G1)#Universe (2008)|Swindle]], who in turn double as ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' [[Vortex (Movie)|Vortex]] and [[Swindle (ROTF)|Swindle]]. Another planned redeco, [[Transformers (2007 toyline)|movie]] [[Reverb (Movie)|Reverb]], was canceled.

::*''[http://snakas.web.fc2.com/energon/d1.htm Comparison between Stormcloud and his Japanese counterpart Vorter at Autobase Aichi]

{{-}}{{anchor|Stormcloud}}
[[File:Energon Stormcloud toy.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|But Stormcloud had bills and decided to join the Decepticons - a 9 to 5 job, sure, but he could quit later and it wouldn't change him, right? Right?]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Stormcloud''' (Energon Class, 2005)}}</ul>
:*''Team ID number'': '''D1'''
:*''Accessories'': Energon blaster, Decepticon-type [[Energon star|energon star]]
{{toydesigner|[[Eric Siebenaler]] (Hasbro), [[Takio Ejima]] (TakaraTomy)|[[Dan Khanna]] (packaging artist)}}

: The [[Hasbro]] release of Stormcloud was sold on an individual card, in the seventh wave of ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' "Energon Class" (aka "Basic") toys.

: Stormcloud is is largely identical to Takara's Vorter; the most immediately-noticeable difference is that he has the "Powerlinx" gear symbol on the left side of his tail-strut, a detail Vorter lacks. His clear-blue plastic is also a lighter shade, while his blue paint applications are actually darker.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Decepticon/Stormcloud/stormcloud.htm More information on Stormcloud at TFU.info]''

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==Merchandise==
{{anchor|3DBattleCardGameMerch}}
===''3D Battle-Card Game''===
[[Image:EnergonWarsVortex.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb|Orange you glad to see me?]]
*'''Vortex''' (2007)
**''Rarity'': Uncommon
**''Point value'': 28

: Released in the "Energon Wars" expansion of the [[Wizards of the Coast]] ''[[3D Battle-Card Game]]'', Vortex (visually based on ''Energon'' Stormcloud) is a set of parts punched out of two plastic cards which can be assembled into both a robot and a helicopter. He also comes with a character stat card.

: Like all 3D Battle Cards, Vortex was randomly-packed in sets of two "figures" per pack. This expansion was exclusive to [[Target]] stores and hobby specialty shops.

: He uses the same parts layout as [[Blackout (Movie)#3D Battle-Card Game|Blackout]], [[Evac (Movie)#3D Battle-Card Game|Evac]], and [[Whirl (G1)#3D Battle-Card Game 2|Whirl]].

{{-}}
==Notes==
[[File:Stormcloud Energon.jpg|right|upright=1|thumb]]
===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Vorter''' (ボルター ''Borutā'')

[[Category:3D Battle-Cards]]
[[Category:Energon combiners]]
[[Category:Energon Decepticons]]

Transformers timeline

2025-05-05T22:37:37Z

Abates: /* 2024 */

{{disambig2|real world events|the 'Timelines' franchise|Transformers Timelines (franchise)}}
{{disambig2|real world events|the internal timeline of various stories|Continuity}}
[[File:RiseUpPretenders hourglass.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Like sands through the breem glass...]]
''This is a timeline of Transformers-related events that occurred in the "real" world, including release dates and other major occurrences.''

==The dawn of time==
===13,500,000,000 BCE===
* The Big Bang creates the universe as we know it. The protons, neutrons, and electrons that will eventually compose Transformers are formed, [[Ruined FOREVER|ruining it forever.]] A {{w|Last Thursdayism|Thursday}}.

===4,540,000,000 BCE===
*[[Earth]] forms, completing a one-time [[transformation]] from protoplanetary debris to planet ([[Action Master|but not back]]). A highly-sought one-time collector's item, it has no known [[Generation 1 reissues|reissues]].

===4004 BCE===
* [[October 23]]: [[God]] creates the universe in six literal days.<ref>''Genesis'' 1:1; the time is determined by adding up the ages of Adam and his descendants.</ref> On the seventh day, he takes a break and does whatever omnipotent beings do for leisure.

===3760 BCE===
* [[September 25]]: The universe comes into existence. {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac}}

{{note|The exact date of this [[universal stream]]'s creation is somewhat muddled, as seen in the three different dates seen above. The account dating it to 4004 BCE is the one used in early recorded [[human]] history, but was later [[retcon]]ned within scientific literature, which established the much earlier date above. More recently, [[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac]] has implicitly dated the universe's creation to 3760 BCE in another retcon. As Hasbro-sanctioned material, this account is assumed to take precedence in [[canon]], at least with regard to the [[Transformers brand]]; however, it is unclear whether the event represents God's six-day creation, the Big Bang, or another, as-yet-unrevealed origin.}}

==1920s==
===1923===
* Henry, Hillel, and Herman Hassenfeld form the Hassenfeld Brothers company, selling textile remnants.

===1924===
* The Japanese toy company [[TakaraTomy|Tomiyama Toy Factory]] is founded.

==1940s==
* The Hassenfeld brothers produce their first toys: pretend doctor and nurse sets.

==1950s==
===1952===
* The Hassenfeld brothers enjoy their first ''bona fide'' success with the release of the original [[Mr. Potato Head]], cementing their company's reputation as toymakers.

===1955===
* [[September 17]] — The Japanese company Satō Vinyl Industries, Ltd., which would later become [[TakaraTomy|Takara]], is founded.

==1960s==
===1963===
* Tomiyama Toy Company changes its name to Tomy.

===1964===
* Hassenfeld Brothers introduces [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]], the first "action figure."

===1967===
* [[July 4]] — Takara introduces the [[Licca Kayama|Licca-chan]] fashion doll.

===1968===
* The big wheels at Hassenfeld Brothers decide to make it easier for fans of their future toylines to curse their name by rebranding the company [[Hasbro|Hasbro Industries]].

==1970s==
===1970===
* Takara acquires the license to introduce ''G.I. Joe'' to Japan. Eventually, Takara takes advantage of the 12" Joe figures' interchangeable parts to create a spinoff toyline called ''Henshin Cyborg'' (Transforming Cyborg).

===1974===
* Takara launches the ''[[Microman]]'' toyline, which represents a scaled-down version of the ''Henshin Cyborg'' [[gimmick]], and which will later be exported to the West as ''Micronauts''.

===1975===
* [[Robotman]], the first ever transforming robot/vehicle toy, is added to the ''Microman'' line. This toy will later become known in the West as the Micronaut Biotron.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20200123174656/http://www.microforever.com/Robotman-Biotron.htm Robotman Series / Victory Series]</ref>

==1980s==
===1980===
* Takara launches the ''[[Diaclone]]'' toyline.

===1982===
* March — The first two toys from Takara's ''Diaclone Car Robo'' line, No.1 Countach LP-500S Super Tuning (red version) and No.2 Onebox Cherry Vanette (black version), are released to stores in Japan. These toys' molds would later be used in ''Transformers'' as [[Sunstreaker (G1)/toys|Sunstreaker]] and [[Ironhide (G1)/toys|Ironhide]], respectively.

* April — The first four toys from the [[Popy]] company's ''[[Machine Robo]]'' line are released to stores in Japan. They will go on to be better known in the West as [[Cy-Kill (GoBots)|Cy-Kill]], Tank, Fitor, and Cop-Tur of the evil Renegades in [[Tonka]]'s ''[[GoBots]]'' line, the closest competitor to ''Transformers''.

* October 3 — ''The Super Dimension Fortress Macross'' debuts on Japanese television, featuring the transforming Valkyrie fighter jet. This vehicle will go on to be '''less''' known in the West as the Transformer [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]].

===1983===
* January — The first three toys from Takara's ''New Microman: Micro Change'' line, MC-01 Micross (available as blue and red variations), MC-02 Jaguar (available as blue and black variations) and MC-03 Condor (available as blue and black variations), are released to stores. These would later make up the first wave of [[Mini-Cassette]]s.
* June — A Hasbro delegation discovers Takara's Diaclone and Microman toys at the [[Tokyo Toy Show]].
* Late 1983 — Takara releases three of their ''Diaclone'' toys (red Sunstreaker, black Ironhide and blue [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]]) in the USA under the name "''[[Diakron]]''". Due to the new licensing agreement with Hasbro, the Diakron line is discontinued following these three toys.
* November 1 — The Hasbro-Takara licensing agreement is signed.

===[[1984]]===
''The Transformers'' launches in the US, in toy, comic and cartoon formats, [[Ruined FOREVER|forever ruining]] ''Transformers''.

* February — Hasbro Bradley unveils their new ''Transformers'' toyline at Toy Fair.
* March — [https://tfwiki.tumblr.com/post/118250474923/monzo12782-the-very-first-marvel-age/amp ''Marvel Age'' #17] announces the April debut of the ''Transformers'' comic book.
* Spring — The first animated [[commercial]] advertising the Marvel comics airs on US TV.
* [[May 8]] — [[The Transformers (issue)|Issue one of the Marvel comic]] is released.
* [[May 22]] — The [http://groups.google.com/group/net.comics/msg/1cdaf7df610e0376?dmode=source&hl=en first Usenet post about Transformers] is posted by Ted Nolan to net.comics. In a prediction of things to come, it is mostly complaints.
* Spring — ''Transformers'' toys start filtering into stores across the United States.
* [[September 17]] — "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]" premieres on U.S. television Saturday morning.
* [[September 20]] — The Marvel UK comic begins publication.
* Unknown date — the UK is the only European country to get ''Transformers'' toys this year. Toys are distributed by Hasbro. Megatron is not available until 1985.
* December — ''Transformers'' mania is in full swing, as the figures fly off store shelves, becoming the year's best seller for Hasbro.
* December — The ''Transformers'' cartoon begins airing in Mexico.
* Unknown date — Takara conducts test market sales of the Hasbro toys in Japan, under the working name ''Henshin Sentai Transformers'' ("Transformation Taskforce Transformers").

===1985===
* From its Limited Series origins, the Marvel comic becomes an ongoing monthly.
* [[July 6]] — Seasons 1 and 2 of the US cartoon begin airing in Japan as ''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformer''.
* [[October 6]] — The [http://groups.google.com/group/net.comics/msg/fce7a2ddb7e35a81?dmode=source&hl=en first Usenet post about the ''Transformers'' cartoon] is posted to net.comics by Bill Flanagan.
* The ''Transformers'' toyline starts getting released to most European markets, with Hasbro using Milton Bradley's facilities for the continental European market, due to an initial lack of resources on their own. The MB toys would be available in France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Denmark, Germany and Spain and include lots of oddities unique to Europe, such as a red version of [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]]. Concurrently, [[GiG]] launches ''[[Trasformer]]'' in Italy (''Diaclone'' toys with no ''Transformers'' license), while [[El Greco]] launches their short-lived version of the line in Greece.
* [[IGA]] begins producing ''Transformers'' toys for the Mexican and Central American market.
* [[Estrela]] begins producing ''Transformers'' toys in Brazil, creating a distinctive local version of the toyline that was eventually brought to Argentina by the second-hand licensee [[Antex]].
* The ''Transformers'' cartoon begins airing in Peru... despite the fact that the toyline it was [[To sell toys|created to promote]] is unavailable in the Peruvian market.

===1986===
* The Transformers cartoon begins airing in the Netherlands.
* April — "[[Scramble City: Mobilization]]", the first Japanese originated Transformers animation, is released on video tape in Japan.
* [[August 8]] — ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' is released in theatres in the United States. International releases follow, except for Japan and Germany. Fans declare the franchise to be ruined forever after seeing the movie.
* The Transformers toyline is introduced to Peru in response to the cartoon's popularity in that country (rather than the other way around) with a combination of [[Hasbro]] and [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] toys imported by [[HUDE]] and [[BASA]], and cheaper [[redeco]]ed [[Mini Vehicle]]s made by [[Lynsa]].
* [[December 12]] — ''The Transformers: The Movie'' is released in the UK.
* [[December 26]] — ''The Transformers: The Movie'' is released in Australia.

===1987===
* February — ''The Transformers: The Movie'' is released in Brazil.
* [[July 3]] — The American version of the G1 cartoon ends its run, to be replaced in Japan by the [[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)|Headmasters cartoon]].

===1988===
* The [[Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (franchise)|Masterforce]] [[franchise]] is launched, ushering in a period of significant deviation between the Western and Japanese Transformers franchises.
* [[April 12]] — The [[Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|Masterforce cartoon]] begins airing in Japan.
* July — The translated version of the Marvel comic book hits Danish stores, lasting only 18 monthly issues (2 US comics per issue + random assortment of Universe profiles) with an editorial approach that wreaked havoc on any sort of continuity (skipping many key stories, resulting in sudden jumps in storylines, a condescending and ignorant letters page etc.)
* A [[The Transformers (cartoon)|fifth season]] of the US Transformers cartoon begins airing, composed of re-edited episodes introduced by a stop-motion Powermaster Optimus Prime.

===1989===
* Unofficially imported Mexican IGA Transformers become a common sight on European store shelves.
* The Transformers cartoon begins airing in Germany.
* [[March 14]] — The [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (cartoon)|Victory cartoon]] begins airing in Japan.
* August — Hasbro begins manufacturing and selling Transformers toys in mainland China.<ref>[http://www.allspark.com/content/view/1743/37/ The Little Sticker in the Corner: The Truth about Early-1990's Chinese G1 Transformers Toys]</ref>
* [[August 9]] — ''The Transformers: The Movie'' finally is released in Japan, where it [[Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers#The Transformers: The Movie|is not actually called "Matrix Forever"]].

==1990s==
===1990===
*The last year of Generation 1 toys are released in North America, while the franchise continues in Japan and Europe.
*July — [[Enter the New Supreme Commander, Dai Atlas!|Transformers Zone]] is released in Japan.

===1991===
* (Cover date of July) — The Marvel Comic ends in the United States with [[End of the Road! (US)|issue 80]].

===1992===
*[[January 4]] (cover date [[January 18]]) — The Marvel Comic ends in the United Kingdom with [[End of the Road! (US)|issue #332]].
*[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Operation Combination (franchise)|Operation Combination]] comes to an end, signalling the end of the original ''Transformers'' series in Japan.

===1993===
*''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]]'' attempts to revive the ''Transformers'' franchise in North America.
* The last year of Generation 1 toys are released in Europe.
* On [[September 11]], the Usenet newsgroup [[alt.toys.transformers]] is established. Fans now have a dedicated online public forum on which to discuss whatever is ruining Transformers.

===1994===
* [[July 16]] — The first [[BotCon]] is held, in [[Fort Wayne]], Indiana.
* ''Generation 2'' is released in Europe.
* Antex briefly introduces ''Generation 2'' to Argentina with [[Robot-Man X]] and [[Robot-Man Z]].

===1995===
* ''Generation 2'' begins in Japan, the first ''Transformers'' series there in years.
* ''Generation 2'' craps out in every market, including Japan.
* The [[The Transformers (Chinese toyline)|Chinese G1 toyline]] comes to a close with the reissuing of several [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (toyline)|Victory]] toys for the Chinese market.
* The South Korean toy company [[Sonokong]] enters into a licensing agreement with [[Hasbro International]], paving the way for the introduction of officially licensed Transformers toys in a country where Transformers [[knockoff]]s were once popular enough to inspire their own animated movies.
* [[August 5]]-[[August 6|6]] — [[BotCon 1995]] is held in Dayton, Ohio.

===1996===
* ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'' is launched. The fandom declares it will forever destroy ''Transformers'' and nobody will ever like it ever, certainly not ten, twenty years into the future.
* ''Beast Wars'' revives the franchise.
* ''Beast Wars'' is one of the best ''Transformers'' anythings ever.
* [[July 12]]-[[July 14|14]] — [[BotCon 1996]] is held in Rosemont, Illinois.

===1997===
* Hasbro releases the twelve [[Machine Wars: Transformers|Machine Wars]] toys, to little acclaim.
* [[July 18]]-[[July 20|20]] — [[BotCon 1997]] is held in Rochester, New York, by the newly formed [[3H Productions|3H Enterprises]].

===1998===
* [[April 10]] — The ''Beast Wars'' TV show premieres in the UK.
* [[June 19]]-[[June 20|20]] — [[BotCon 1998]] is held in Anaheim, California.
* Summer — Hasbro's Nordic subsidiary (located in Denmark) releases UK Beast Wars stock to Scandinavian stores. The CGI show is not picked up in any of the Scandinavian countries, as it is deemed "too graphic" for children.

===1999===
* [[July 16]]-[[July 18|18]] — At [[BotCon 1999]] in Saint Paul, Minnesota, the first episode of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]'', "[[The Reformatting]]" is previewed, to overwhelming fan enjoyment.

==2000s==
===[[2000]]===
* ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Machines]]'' launches and [[Ruined FOREVER|forever ruins ''Transformers'']].
* [[July 28]]-[[July 3030]] — [[BotCon 2000]] is held in [[Fort Wayne]], Indiana.

===[[2001]]===
* Everyone loves "[[Car Robots|Transformers 2000]]," but they hate the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|2001 ''Robots in Disguise'' franchise]], declaring it to have ruined Transformers forever.
* [[February 19]] — ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]'' begins airing in the UK on Fox Kids.
* [[July 13]]-[[July 15|15]] — [[BotCon 2001]] is held in Durham, North Carolina.
* Hasbro introduces Transformers to Turkey through its recently acquired subsidiary [[Intertoy]].

===[[2002]]===
* Hasbro ''Transformers'' lead designer [[Aaron Archer]] begins to post on the Transfandom.com boards as ORSON, at first primarily to refute various false claims about [[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|''Transformers: Armada'']]. Skeptical fans remark that if he is a Hasbro designer, then they are various members of the British Monarchy.
* [[April 3]] — [[Dreamwave Productions]] begins publishing Transformers comics with [[Prime Directive issue 1|Transformers Generation 1 #1]]. There is much rejoicing, even though everyone started noticing how bad [[Pat Lee|Pat "Dull-Surprise" Lee's]] art really was.
* [[Aaron Archer]] does his best to kill ''Transformers'' through incredible sales; ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' kicks off the [[Unicron Trilogy]], the toys appear on store shelves in mid-July, the cartoon premieres in August.
* [[June 1]] — The [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]] cartoon premieres in the UK in a run which includes several episodes originally withheld from US broadcast.
* [[July 6]] — ''Armada'' toys begin arriving in small toy stores and Kay-Bee.<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/b22311a4862b3c07?dmode=source Armada has been spotted!] on alt.toys.transformers</ref>
* [[July 26]]-[[July 28|28]] — [[BotCon 2002]] is held in Fort Wayne, Indiana.

===[[2003]]===
* [[June 11]] — [[Don Murphy]] and [[Tom DeSanto]] team up to produce a feature-length, [[Transformers (film)|live-action ''Transformers'']] movie. They claim it will be exactly the same as Generation 1. ''Really''.
* [[July 25]]-[[July 27|27]] — [[OTFCC 2003]] is held in Chicago, Illinois.
* Everybody loves ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]/20th Anniversary'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]].
* Everyone loves [[Transformers: Alternators#Binaltech|Binaltech]]/[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]].

===[[2004]]===
* [[June 19]]-[[June 20|20]] — Although no longer the official convention, [[BotCon 2004]] is held at the Pasadena Convention Center in Pasadena, California.
* [[July 22]] — [[DreamWorks]], [[Paramount Pictures]] and [[Hasbro]] sign an agreement to produce a [[Transformers (film)|live-action ''Transformers'']] movie. Everyone is excited to see ''Transformers'' on the big screen again.<ref>https://www.superherohype.com/news/86311-dreamworks-paramount-team-on-transformers</ref>
* [[July 30]]-[[August 1]] — [[OTFCC 2004]] is held in Chicago, Illinois.
* Everyone ''hates'' ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|Energon]]'' and declares Transformers to be Ruined FOREVER. Again.

===[[2005]]===
* [[January 4]] — [[Dreamwave Productions]] goes bankrupt. Many artists complain about being unpaid for their work and/or being stuck with FedEx fees. [[Pat Lee|Pat "serfdom" Lee]] gives them the finger and drives off in his Porsche, to the surprise of nobody.
* [[April 18]] — Don Murphy reports that he wants to please the fans, DreamWorks want to change everything, and Hasbro don't care either way as long as the movie gets done in time.
* [[Michael Bay]] is announced as the director for ''Transformers''. It will still ''totally'' be Generation 1, ''honest''!
* May — Takara and Tomy merge, becoming [[TakaraTomy]].
* [[May 19]] — [[IDW Publishing]] acquires the ''Transformers'' comic book license.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20070929130820/http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?threadid=34130</ref> There is much rejoicing, and, as usual, much complaining.
* ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Cybertron]]'' debuts in Japan in January, and in the US in September, concluding the Unicron Trilogy. Fan reception is much better than ''Energon''.
* [[September 22]]-[[September 25|25]] — [[BotCon 2005]] is held in Frisco, Texas, for the first time by [[Fun Publications]]. It's the official convention again.
* [[October 19]] — [[The Transformers: Infiltration|Infiltration]] #0, [[IDW Publishing]]'s first ''Transformers'' comic, is released in comic book stores. Predictably, there is much complaining.

===[[2006]]===
* [[January 18]] — ''[[The Transformers: Infiltration|Transformers: Infiltration]]'' #1 is released in comic book stores.
* [[February 13]] — [[Activision]] announces their acquisition of the ''Transformers'' video game license.
* [[April 19]] — Filming begins on the live-action [[Transformers (film)|''Transformers'']] motion picture.
* [[July 24]] — [[Peter Cullen]] is announced at [[San Diego Comic-Con]] as the voice of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] in the ''Transformers'' film. There is much rejoicing (yay).
* [[September 15]] — The first ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' toys arrive at a small store in Canada.
* [[September 28]]-[[October 1]] — [[BotCon 2006]] is held at the Lexington Center in Lexington, Kentucky.
* [[November 28]] — ''[[The Transformers: Escalation|Transformers: Escalation]]'' #1 is released in comic book stores.
* ''[[Transformers: Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]]'' debuts. Transformers is left with a vague sense of uncleanness forever.

===[[2007]]===
* June — The first promotional images for ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Transformers Animated]]'' are released. Take a ''wild'' guess as to the fan reaction.
* [[June 27]]-[[July 1]] — [[BotCon 2007]] is held at the Rhode Island Convention Center in Providence, Rhode Island, Hasbro's hometown. It was expected to be the best Transformers convention ''ever''. It was also expected to be the worst Transformers convention ''ever''.
* [[July 2]] — US theatres start showing the live-action [[Transformers (film)|''Transformers'']] motion picture at 8:00 PM. By midnight, it's made US$8.8 million.
* [[July 3]] — The ''Transformers'' release date. It makes $27.85 million, more money on a Tuesday than any film in history. Fans declare the franchise as [[Ruined FOREVER|ruined forever]] once more.
* [[July 4]] — Americans celebrate their Independence Day by giving $29 million to that [[Hollywood]] movie about an [[Bumblebee (Movie)|alien robot]] summoning his friends to [[Earth]] where they disguise themselves as [[General Motors]] vehicles and team up with the [[United States military]] to smash the evil robots. Unsurprisingly, this is more money than a movie's ever earned on the Fourth of July. Apparently, what's good for General Motors really ''is'' good for the country.
* [[July 25]] — As of this writing, the ''Transformers'' movie has grossed $270 million in the United States, with worldwide gross earnings of nearly '''one half billion dollars US'''.
* [[July 28]] — A ''Transformers Animated'' preview is shown to the public. The fandom rejoiced (and complained, of course!).
* [[October 16]] — ''[[Transformers (film)|Transformers]]'' is released on DVD.
* November 3 — a specially edited 11-minute preview of ''Transformers Animated'' episode 1 is shown at the NTFA Mini-Con in Arlöv, Sweden, to the disdain of many a US fan.<ref>http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/156331-new-transformers-animated-series-details-revealed-ntfa-mini-con.html</ref>
* [[December 26]] — ''Transformers Animated'' ruins Transformers forever slightly ahead of schedule when the premiere episodes are shown as a "movie" on [[Cartoon Network]].<ref>[http://www.allspark.com/content/view/2125/20/ Date And Time For Transformers: Animated Debut!]</ref>

===[[2008]]===
* [[January 5]] — ''Transformers Animated'' begins airing regularly Saturdays at 10:30 a.m, ruining ''Transformers'' forever. Again.
* [[April 24]]-[[April 27|27]] — [[BotCon 2008]] is held at the Duke Energy Center in Cincinnati, Ohio.
* June — ''[[Transformers Animated (toyline)|Transformers Animated]]'' toys are scheduled to be released.

===[[2009]]===
* [[May 8]] — Transformers turns 25 (25th Anniversary of the release of [[The Transformers (issue)|''The Transformers'' #1]], the first publicly released TF merchandise.)
* [[May 28]]-[[May 31|31]] — [[BotCon 2009]] is held — again — at the Pasadena Convention Center in Pasadena, California.
* [[June 24]] — ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen]]'' is released.
* [[October 1]] — Michael Bay officially announces that preproduction has begun on ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Transformers 3]]''.<ref name="open">[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5976 "Official 2011," Shootfortheedit.com]</ref> Inevitably, people cry about Bay still ruining Transformers forever.

==2010s==
===[[2010]]===
* [[March 26]] — The establishment of a [[Transformers Hall of Fame]] is announced. Everyone thinks [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] will win the fan vote.
* [[June 22]] — ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)|Transformers: War for Cybertron]]'' is released on the [[PlayStation]] 3, [[Xbox]] 360, PC, Nintendo [[Wii]], and [[Nintendo DS]]. ''[[Transformers: Exodus]]'' is released.
* [[June 24]]-[[June 27|27]] — [[BotCon 2010]] is held at the Walt Disney World Dolphin Hotel and Convention Center in Orlando, Florida.
* [[June 26]] — The Hall of Fame ceremony takes place and the inaugural members are inducted. [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] is revealed to have won the fan vote over fan-favorites like [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] and [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]. Predictably, [[Trukk not munky|some]] [[GEEWUN|people]] cry about this revalation with claims that ''Beast Wars'' fans played underhanded tricks.
* [[November 26]] — The ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' miniseries premieres on [[Hub Network|The Hub]], ruining Transformers forever.

===[[2011]]===
* [[May 18]] — Hasbro announce [[Michael Bay]] and [[Steven Spielberg]] will be inducted into the Hall of Fame. Fans are outraged as the pair have only created a highly-successful film series and given the brand a massive boost in popularity.
* [[June 2]]-[[June 5|5]] — [[BotCon 2011]] is held at the Pasadena Convention Center in Pasadena, California.
* [[June 4]] — The second Hall of Fame ceremony inducts [[Ironhide (disambiguation)|Ironhide]], [[Ratchet (disambiguation)|Ratchet]], [[Soundwave (disambiguation)|Soundwave]] and aforementioned humans. [[Waspinator (disambiguation)|Waspinator]] is revealed to have won the fan vote, and once more fans are outraged over a Beast Wars character winning the fan vote, to nobody's shock.
* [[June 28]] — ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Transformers: Dark of the Moon]]'' debuts three hours ahead of its "official" opening, with 9:00 PM showings throughout the United States and Canada.
* [[July 2]], [[July 3|3]], [[July 4|4]] — ''Transformers: Dark of the Moon'' ruins America forever with the highest Independence Day weekend gross of any movie ever.<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/july-4th.htm?page=JULY4ALL&p=.htm</ref>
* November — A preview wave of ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|Prime]]'' "First Edition" toys hits stores. Stores outside the US, at least.
* [[December 17]] — The Hub screens the first two episodes of ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'', and the brand is ruined forever by kiddification.

===[[2012]]===
* [[February 18]] — The Hub starts playing the second season of ''Prime'' and the first season of ''Rescue Bots'', marking the first time that ''Transformers'' has had two major cartoons running at the same time.
* [[April 26]]-[[April 29]] — [[BotCon 2012]] is held at the Hyatt Regency Dallas in Dallas.
* [[April 28]] — The third Hall of Fame ceremony inducts humans [[Chris Latta]] and [[Simon Furman]], plus [[Grimlock (disambiguation)|Grimlock]], [[Jazz (disambiguation)|Jazz]], [[Shockwave (disambiguation)|Shockwave]] and fan choice [[Wheeljack (disambiguation)|Wheeljack]].
* [[August 21]] — ''[[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron]]'' is released on PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 and PC. Fans deem it a glorious piece of technological entertainment.
* [[December 13]] — The ''[[Transformers Legends (mobile game)|Transformers Legends]]'' mobile game is released on Android. An iOS version is released in April of the following year.

===[[2013]]===
* [[February 9]] — Hasbro reveals a wealth of new product at [[Toy Fair 2013]], including new [[Triple Changer]]s and the largest ''Transformers'' toy ever in [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]. The fact that there is no way Hasbro will be able to top this in future ruins Transformers forever.
* [[June 27]]-[[June 30|30]] — [[BotCon 2013]] is held at the Town and Country Resort in [[San Diego]], [[California]].
* [[June 29]] — [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] and [[Ultra Magnus (disambiguation)|Ultra Magnus]] are inducted as the Fan's Choice nominees for the fourth year of the Hall of Fame, Megatron having won first place with a comfortable lead over the other choices, yeeess. More crying as a BW character is inducted into the Hall of Fame.

===[[2014]]===
* [[June 19]]-[[June 22|22]] — [[BotCon 2014]] is held at the Pasadena Convention Center in Pasadena, [[California]].
* [[June 19]] — [[Arcee (disambiguation)|Arcee]] and [[Rodimus (disambiguation)|Rodimus]] are inducted as the Fan's Choice nominees for the fifth year of the Hall of Fame, with Arcee receiving more votes than Rodimus. In addition, [[Stan Bush]] is the first human inductee since 2012.
* [[June 24]] — ''[[Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark (console)|Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark]]'' is released.
* [[June 27]] — ''[[Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|Transformers: Age of Extinction]]'' is released, ruining paleontology forever.
* [[July 24]]-[[July 27|27]] — Hasbro somehow manages to top [[Toy Fair 2013]] by unveiling new toys of the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]] and the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] at [[San Diego Comic-Con]]. Both teams are able to combine. In addition, they unveil details on ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Transformers: Robots in Disguise]]''.
* [[October 15]] — ''[[Angry Birds Transformers (mobile game)|Angry Birds Transformers]]'' launches for iOS, with the Android version being released at the end of the month.
* [[December 31]] — The first thirteen episodes of ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Transformers: Robots in Disguise]]'' premiere in Mandarin on Chinese streaming video site M1950.

===[[2015]]===
* [[January 30]] — ''[[Transformers: Battle Tactics]]'' is launched on mobile platforms.
* [[February 9]] — ''Robots in Disguise'' premieres in France.
* [[February 21]] — ''Robots in Disguise'' premieres in Australia and New Zealand.
* [[March 2]] — ''Robots in Disguise'' premieres in Portugal.
* [[March 7]] — ''Robots in Disguise'' premieres in Italy.
* [[March 14]] — ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Transformers: Robots in Disguise]]'' finally premieres on Cartoon Network in the United States.
* [[June 18]]-[[June 21|21]] — [[BotCon 2015]] is held at the Pheasant Run Resort in St. Charles, Illinois.
* [[October 6]] — ''[[Transformers: Devastation]]'' is released in North America.
* Also October 6 — The ''Transformers: Legends'' mobile game shut down.

===[[2016]]===
* [[April 7]]-[[April 10|10]] — [[BotCon 2016]] is held at the Galt House Hotel in Louisville, Kentucky. Hasbro announces at the event that it will be the ''last'' BotCon.
* [[May 12]] — ''Transformers: Battle Tactics'' is shut down.
* [[June 2]] — ''[[Transformers: Earth Wars]]'' launches on Android and iPhone.
* [[June 28]] — The first of four prelude videos is released for the ''[[Transformers: Combiner Wars (cartoon)|Transformers: Combiner Wars]]'' cartoon.
* [[August 2]] — The ''Combiner Wars'' cartoon launches on the go90 platform.
* [[October 22]] — The ''Rescue Bots'' cartoon comes to an end as "[[Transformations]]" airs.

===[[2017]]===
* [[April 5]] — ''[[Transformers: Forged to Fight]]'' is launched on iOS and Android.
* [[June 21]] — ''[[Transformers: The Last Knight (film)|Transformers: The Last Knight]]'' is released to cinemas.
* [[September 8]]-[[September 10|10]] — [[HasCon 2017]], thus far the only [[HasCon]], is held in Providence, Rhode Island.
* [[November 11]] — The ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon ends.
* [[November 14]] — The ''[[Transformers: Titans Return (cartoon)|Transformers: Titans Return]]'' cartoon launches on the go90 platform.
* [[December 21]] — Activision's licensing agreement with Hasbro ends, and their games are delisted.

===[[2018]]===
* [[May 1]] — The ''[[Transformers: Power of the Primes (cartoon)|Transformers: Power of the Primes]]'' cartoon launches on the go90 platform.
* [[August 27]] — ''[[Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)|Transformers: Cyberverse]]'' launches on the Cartoon Network app and website, premiering on television a few days later on [[September 1]]st.
* [[November 21]] — The ''[[Optimus Prime (comic)|Optimus Prime]]'' issue "[[Post]]" is published, marking the end of IDW's [[2005 IDW continuity|long running comic continuity]].
* [[December 8]] — ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots Academy (cartoon)|Transformers: Rescue Bots Academy]]'' premieres.
* [[December 21]] — ''[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]'' is released to US cinemas, and nothing is ruined forever.

===[[2019]]===
* [[March 13]] — IDW publishes the [[The World In Your Eyes Part One|first issue]] in its new [[2019 IDW continuity|rebooted continuity]].

==2020s==
===[[2020]]===
* The worldwide {{w|COVID-19 pandemic}} results in a spate of cancelled conventions and the temporary suspension of new comics from [[IDW Publishing]]. Everything is ruined for the next two years or so.
* [[June 15]] — The ''Rescue Bots Academy'' cartoon ends, and with it, the Aligned continuity.
* [[July 30]] — ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron Trilogy (cartoon)|Transformers: War for Cybertron Trilogy]]'' premieres on [[Netflix]].
* [[October 23]] — ''[[Transformers: Battlegrounds]]'', the first console game not published by Activision in almost 20 years, is released.

===[[2021]]===
* [[July 29]] — The ''War for Cybertron Trilogy'' cartoon's final season is released on Netflix.
* [[November 7]] — The ''Cyberverse'' cartoon concludes with an extended-length series finale.

===[[2022]]===
* [[January 20]] — IDW Publishing announces that they will be losing the ''Transformers'' license at the end of the year.
* [[March 25]] — ''[[Transformers: BotBots (cartoon)|Transformers: BotBots]]'' is released on Netflix.
* [[June 29]] — IDW's rebooted continuity concludes with the release of ''[[Transformers: Fate of Cybertron]]''.
* [[November 11]] — ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark]]'' premieres on Paramount+.

===[[2023]]===
* [[June 9]] — ''[[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts (film)|Transformers: Rise of the Beasts]]'' is released to US cinemas.
* [[June 14]] — Image Comics and Skybound Entertainment releases [[Void Rivals issue 1|''Void Rivals'' #1]] which kicks off the [[Energon Universe]].
* [[October 4]] — The first ''Transformers''-focused issue of the Energon Universe, [[Transformers (2023) issue 1|''Transformers'' #1]], is released.

===[[2024]]===
* [[September 20]] — ''[[Transformers One (film)|Transformers One]]'' is released in US cinemas.
* [[October 11]] — ''[[Transformers: Galactic Trials]]'' launches on PC, Xbox, PlayStation and Nintendo Switch.

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==References==
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So, Generations "Darkmount" was at ToyFair? I can't find any mention of him outside this wiki. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:39, 14 February 2010 (EST)
:[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/toy-fair-2010-presentation-screenshots-of-sdcc-blaster-straxus-masterpiece-grimlock-and-more/17867/] [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 07:41, 14 February 2010 (EST)
::Approximately half the sites call him "Darkhead" for some reason. Pictures be floating about, even though people were asked not to take them. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 07:44, 14 February 2010 (EST)
:::Thanks. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:46, 14 February 2010 (EST)
::::FWIW, we were only asked not to take them so as not to flash in the eyes of the presenters, not because anything was a secret; Hasbro said all the pics were going to be given to us anyway. It turned out Straxus' pics had come in from the shop too last-minute to have been added to the press kits. So, good on the shutterbugs. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 04:53, 15 February 2010 (EST)

=="Tank" vs "Self-Propelled Gun"==
I realize there's probably a 99% chance his card copy will say "tank" regardless, but it would be more in-keeping with the character history if he's actually a [[Wikipedia:Self-propelled gun|self-propelled gun]]? I'll probably add a note to that extent soon. Is there ANY way for us to get official confirmation in advance? For some reason I'm really fixating on this, I even directed the toy pics to a military hobbyist site to see if they could nail down the make and model of the vehicle mode. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 04:53, 15 February 2010 (EST)
: What feels wrong about this to me is that most of the images of self-propelled guns I'm seeing have really short barrels, and usually multiples of them, keeping with the idea that they're anti-aircraft weapons stuck on a vehicle. Darkmount doesn't keep in line with this, having a more traditional tank barrel. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:36, 15 February 2010 (EST)
::That's strange, cause a quick Google search just turned up oodles and skoodles of images of vehicles with single, massive barrels that most civilians would unhesitatingly call "tanks". [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:45, 15 February 2010 (EST)
:::The linked article shows numerous examples of s.p.g's that have single gigantic gunbarrels; most are anti-tank guns or mobile Howitzers used for over-the-horizon city bombardment. But here's the weird thing: the only half-track s.p.g's I can find are of the type Walky described: small multi-barrels, usually of WW2 vintage. Meanwhile, I can't find any specimens of a half-track true tank at all.--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 09:20, 15 February 2010 (EST)
::::Half-tracks were never used for tank chassis. Half-tracks were pretty much always troop transports or similar. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 09:37, 15 February 2010 (EST)
:::::This is the sort of geekery that I think should live on the wiki, and in fact does live in altmode discussions of many other characters. If the final packaging ends up saying "tank" it could still be appropriate to at least mention the possibility; cobras aren't vipers, as we note on [[Night Viper]]. FWIW, some military fanboys weighed in here: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=42398 --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 23:00, 17 February 2010 (EST)
::::::I am not sure I agree with having half of Darkmount's toy writeup be about whether he's a self-propelled gun or a tank. It's really irrelevant, considering his vehicle mode seems to be entirely made-up. His cockpit is a windowed affair on the front corner, for gods sake. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:34, 17 February 2010 (EST)
:::::::I may have gone overboard initially--especially considering that we can't even show a good pic of the toy yet--so I've shortened it.
:::::::FWIW, about that windowed cockpit up front: http://www.army-technology.com/projects/g6/g63.html --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 10:11, 18 February 2010 (EST)

== Dead Link and Title Thoughts ==

Just in case it's not known already, wanted to point out the "Obscure Omnibus" link seems to be dead at the moment. And on a random side note, part of me wishes Hasbro had thought to call him "Lord Darkmount" then we could more easily pretend it was his title as ruler of Darkmount castle, kinda like James McCullen is "Lord Destro." Though... that still kinda works, doesn't it, as he's usually just called Destro. Lord Byron was frequently called just Byron as well. I think in my own mind I'm gonna likewise consider "Darkmount" as Straxus's "aristocratic title." --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:56, 20 April 2010 (EDT)
:Using a regional name as a personified noun is common in journalism and historical writing, so it can still be a synonym for the government (and in this case, the dictator). "Russia today declared that it would withdraw from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. And in other news, Darkmount announced that fools within its borders would receive no mercy, only death."--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 15:19, 20 April 2010 (EDT)

== Triple Changer? ==

Straxus is currently in the [[:Category:Triple Changers|Triple Changers]] category because of what was said about his Generations toy at Toy Fair. Maybe he should be demoted from an official [[Triple Changer]] to a [[:Category:Transformers with three modes|Transformer with three modes]]. His third mode isn't even mentioned on the packaging. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:22, 29 December 2010 (EST)

== Straxus Becomes Galvatron? ==

I don't believe this was ever even slightly hinted at anywhere in the Marvel U.K. comics. Straxus' mind is trapped within a duplicate of Megatron's body, goes to Earth, participates in the Time Wars and then returns to Cybertron to commit suicide. There is no indication of any other Straxus-Megatron existing in any other Marvel U.K. timeline. Least of all one that later becomes Galvatron. [[Special:Contributions/95.148.10.137|95.148.10.137]] 10:08, 13 January 2011 (EST)
:It's not that it was hinted at in the stories at the time, but more of a retroactive thing. For almost the entirety of the Straxus-Megatron clone's existence, he was treated as the real Megatron. That's who the writer considered him to be when he was writing the story - the clone thing only came in later as a necessary explanation. And so, Galvatron remembers the events of ''Time Wars'' as Megatron sees them, because Megatron is his past self. Except later, it turned out that the Megatron from ''Time Wars'' was... Straxus-Megatron. This indicated the possibility that he could have been the Megatron who got turned into Galvatron, since they shared memories. ''Time Wars'' proceeded to change history, and so he died and the real Megatron became Galvatron instead. It's not an absolute, merely a possibility spawned as the result of a retcon. As the article says, sarcastically, "It's all very simple, isn't it?" - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:19, 13 January 2011 (EST)
:: Chris beat me to it. In Time Wars, Galvatron remembers seeing the events of the day through the participating Megatron's eyes. ...however, it was revealed later that the participating Megatron was the Straxus clone. The page doesn't really deal with this information terribly well. If Derik didn't write that trailing italicized portion at the end of the Marvel section, I'll eat my hat. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:20, 13 January 2011 (EST)
:::I don't see Derik in the revision history... [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 11:22, 13 January 2011 (EST)
::::That's because the passage in question predates the editing history we have. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:28, 13 January 2011 (EST)
:::::Actually, I didn't find it over on [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Straxus_(G1)&limit=500&showall=0&action=history Teletraan I's Straxus's article], while the line ''is'' there. Seems that one "Borf the Dwarf" added it. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 11:32, 13 January 2011 (EST)
::::::Actually, I think it might have been ''me''! Not the "very simple" part, but the rest, I think! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:43, 13 January 2011 (EST)
I think we're confusing exactly who's who and who is from which timeline here. The Galvatron from 2006 thats been appearing throughout the Marvel U.K. comics is from the '86 movie timeline. The Marvel comics is seperate, following a timeline where the '86 movie cannot happen. It is therefore logical to believe that the events prior to the '86 movie don't match the events as shown in the Marvel comics.

Look at the second page of the Time Wars Part 7 story. The third panel shows Galvatron from the '86 movie timeline and the Straxus-Megatron clone. The second panel shows a different event in which the Megatron shown is from the '86 movie timeline that later becomes the Galvatron in the third panel. The event that the second panel shows is a variation of Time Wars which happened prior to the '86 movie whereas the third panel shows the Time Wars from the Marvel timeline. The Galvatron in the second panel is currently a mystery though. It cannot be '86 movie timeline Galvatron because his story doesn't take him back into his own timeline. Which leads us to...

The repaired rift in time and space as we see in Aspects of Evil: Galvatron. Rodimus Prime, Kup, Arcee, Blurr, Red Alert and Ultra Magnus (if he's still alive) are from the '86 movie timeline still and retain their memories from before the '86 movie (Rodimus Prime in Aspects of Evil is telling his student his memories prior to the '86 movie which don't happen in the regular Marvel timeline). However, Galvatron and everyone else is new with no memories or experiences from either the '86 movie timeline or the main Marvel timeline. Those six Autobots travelled to a third timeline. The '86 movie still happened for those six but that particular timeline is closed off to them. Whether the '86 movie timeline is continuing without them, we don't know.

The only assumption here is not that there was a Straxus-Megatron clone in the '86 movie that got kicked out of Astrotrain in 2005 but a much more factual explanation. The Galvatron that '86 movie Galvatron remembers in Time Wars is not himself, not Marvel Megatron (his story takes him into Classics and G2) or Marvel Straxus-Megatron (he dies) but a second Galvatron (and not the one from Rhythms of Darkness either). So, I would assume that this Galvatron from the new third timeline will at some point later travel to the past of the '86 movie continuity to kick Optimus Prime's butt as is shown in the memories of '86 movie Galvatron.

Also, the Megatron from the Trigger-Happy story is not Straxus-Megatron either but is in fact the Megatron from the '86 timeline since he's seen Galvatron and wrongly believes he will later become that same Galvatron. This means Trigger-Happy takes place in the timeline prior to the '86 movie and not the regular Marvel timeline.

This would be much easier with diagrams but I gave it my best shot in explaining why '86 movie Galvatron cannot be originally a Straxus-Megatron clone. [[Special:Contributions/95.148.10.183|95.148.10.183]] 17:23, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

:To which I would simply counter that on multiple occasions Galvatron considers this Megatron to be his younger self and has memories of the events of Time Wars, though they turn out differently. This strongly suggests that events only really start to diverge around this time and Galvatron would have been the future of this Megatron but for these events. Which frankly is what everybody, the characters, the writer and the readers, considered to be the case in early 1989, and since that Galvatron is dead by the time we learn of the Straxus thing, everything else is open to interpretation.
:And I'm not persuaded that that second panel actually is what happened to Galvatron the first time around. The problem is he's gone insane by this stage so what are his memories and what are just the products of a mad mind is hard to tell.
:And if you think this is convoluted, try the history of Iron Lad, Rama-Tut, the Scarlet Centurion, Kang and Immortus where sometimes even the same writer couldn't make up their mind about who was the same character and who was a divergant. [[User:Timrollpickering|Timrollpickering]] ([[User talk:Timrollpickering|talk]]) 16:09, 5 December 2013 (EST)

== Roller Master? ==

Uh, where the heck is it stated that "Roller Master" is the same guy as Straxus? Aside from having a similar color scheme and a Mini-Con named "Spanner", I'm not seeing any concrete connection. --[[User:Nu-Priest|Nu-Priest]] 10:44, 24 September 2012 (EDT)
:See the below links. [[User:Poweredconvoy|poweredconvoy]] 11:06, 24 September 2012 (EDT)
:http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=89376&view=findpost&p=2149779
:http://www.allspark.com/content/view/10631/37/

== Microman Armored Suit DX3 Bulsonic (Blue Type) ==

There should be some mention of the New Microman toy that featured in the Metro Wars comic, and the alleged Japanese fan theory that produced it. Should the toy actually be included in his "Toys" section? [[User:Chip|Chip]] ([[User talk:Chip|talk]]) 09:07, 2 August 2016 (EDT)

== WFC Kingdom links back to Straxus? ==

So for some reason whenever I click on the link for [[War for Cybertron: Kingdom]] in the [[Straxus (G1)#Generations Comic Edition|section for his Generations toy]] it links to… Straxus??
I checked the text and it does in fact contain the link to WFC Kingdom but it just sends me to Straxus

Is anyone else having this problem or is it just something on my end? [[User:AssaultBread|AssaultBread]] ([[User talk:AssaultBread|talk]]) 22:49, 4 May 2025 (CDT)
:Someone put a # on the start of the link by accident. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:06, 5 May 2025 (EDT)

Straxus (G1)

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:''Straxus is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
[[File:Straxus.jpg|upright=1.95|thumb|Mercy is not dispensed here, fools, only Pez.]]
A ruthless, fearmongering dictator, Lord High Governor '''Straxus''' (aka '''Darkmount''', '''Rollermaster''', and '''Straxxus''') is a threat to all under his rule—including his own inner circle. From his throne in [[Darkmount (Cybertron)|Darkmount]], there are none in [[Polyhex]] who do not feel his crushing influence. Straxus's word is law, unbound by reason or facts, and can and will change from thought to thought. Do not try to appeal to his sense of pity; he has none.

A brutal powerhouse, he is more than able to enforce his policies, usually with a deadly blow from his battle axe. So terrible is Straxus that even [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] gives the dictator his space, allowing the small-minded tyrant to terrorize his corner of the globe. Megatron may have designs on the galaxy, but in Polyhex, Straxus rules.

{{bigquote|'''Mercy''' is not dispensed here, fools... only '''death!'''|Straxus|"[[The Smelting Pool!]]"}}

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics====
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[[File:Straxusholdscourt.jpg|left|upright=1.66|thumb|He's got a metal palm tree and he's not afraid to use it!]]
''Following the assassination of the Decepticon warlord [[Trannis]] by the [[Autobot]] commando unit, the [[Wreckers]], Straxus assumed his position as [[Decepticon leader]] on Cybertron.'' {{storylink|Cybertron: The Middle Years!}}

Straxus would oversee a horrifically brutal reign, having his men hunt down [[neutral]]s, Autobots, and [[empty|the destitute]] so they could be melted down in [[smelting pool]]s and their metal reused by the Decepticons. Even other Decepticons weren't safe from his brutality, with him battering his own Executive Officer [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] when he was in a mood.

When a Decepticon transmission beamed from the planet [[Earth]] circa the Earth year [[1985]] reached Cybertron, Straxus immediately arranged for the capture of the scientist [[Spanner (G1)|Spanner]] so that a [[space bridge]] between the worlds could be constructed. Attempting to locate Spanner, the Autobot spy [[Scrounge (G1)|Scrounge]] learned of this plot, but was captured by [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] and brought before Straxus, who maliciously destroyed his unique recording-device arm before consigning him to death in the [[smelting pool]]s. In turn, [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] came searching for Scrounge (against orders), was captured and brought before Straxus, and sentenced to the pools. There he discovered the dying Scrounge, was given the information he had acquired, and escaped with the aid of his Autobot friends who had come looking for him (against orders). {{storylink|The Smelting Pool!}}

[[File:Straxusaltmode.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Yeah, but where does the axe go?]]The space bridge was subsequently completed, but its earliest tests reduced Straxus to rage when a malfunction caused the death of [[Crosscut (Marvel)|Crosscut]], and he sent [[Crosscut's successor|another unfortunate]] to instant death in an attempt to figure out what had gone wrong. In an act of petty brutality, he threatened Shrapnel that he better sort the problem out soon because ''he'' was going to be sent to clear the rubbish off the Bridge! As the tests went on, an Autobot raiding party planted explosives within Darkmount, destroying it, and sending an enraged Straxus after their heads. With the bridge unattended, Blaster intended to destroy it with [[fission bomb]]s, but was confronted by Straxus in a one-on-one duel before he could detonate them. Crippling Blaster with his axe, Straxus was duped into accidentally severing the bridge's fuel line, destabilizing its teleporting arch, through which Blaster then kicked Straxus, destroying him. {{storylink|The Bridge to Nowhere!}}

[[File:Straxushead.jpg|left|thumb|Teletraan I, Rita's escaped, recruit a team of teenagers with attitude...no, er wait...]]
''However, while Straxus's body was reduced to ash, his head was salvaged and placed in a life-support pod that allowed him to continue on in his position as leader.'' {{storylink|...The Harder They Die!}} ''Soon after, when [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] arrived on Cybertron, Straxus immediately set in motion a scheme to restore himself to life, calmly following Megatron's directions to hunt down [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]], who had arrived on the planet with him. ''{{storylink|Under Fire!}} {{storylink|Distant Thunder!}} ''After Prime carried out [[Decepticon fuel store|several successful raids]] alongside the Wreckers, Megatron began to grow more and more unstable, and Straxus more and more impatient with his deranged houseguest. Despite the warnings of his technicians as to the "unpredictability" of the machinery involved, Straxus made the final step, activating a device that would exchange his and Megatron's minds, giving him a body once more. Megatron resisted the transfer, however, destroying Straxus's head, and leaving the two minds within Megatron's body, fighting for dominance, each one in control at a different moment. The other Decepticons, in particular [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]], soon noticed their leader's problems and began to scheme about how to handle it. When in battle with Prime and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Ultra Magnus]], Megatron prepared to unleash his destructive [[antimatter]] powers; in order to save the [[Polyhex Decepticon stronghold]], Ratbat activated the space bridge, teleporting the three Transformers back to [[Earth]].'' {{storylink|Resurrection!}}

[[File:Maulers mauled.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|This story is full of awesome Megatron moments and Straxus retroactively stole them all. He ''is'' evil!]]
''Before this could occur, having failed to oust Megatron's mind, Straxus activated his contingency plan, "[[Project Re-Birth]]," and his consciousness fled into a body he had specially prepared—a duplicate of Megatron created from a "[[Archforce|hapless trooper]]", complete with a copy of his brain patterns, beneath which Straxus's personality lay dormant. '' {{storylink|Two Megatrons!}}'' Upon hearing of the true Megatron's seeming death aboard the space bridge a short time later, the project technicians activated the clone, sending it to the sewers beneath [[London]] where it came into conflict with a small group of Autobots, [[Action Force (team)|Action Force]] and [[Centurion (Marvel)|Centurion]]. Straxus's mind had yet to take over the clone at this point, and it genuinely believed itself to be the true Megatron, but it was soon dealt with when an oil tank explosion sent it and Centurion tumbling into the [[Thames|River Thames]].'' {{storylink|Ancient Relics!}}

''Some time later, seeking a weapon to use against the deranged future Decepticon [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], [[Shockwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Shockwave]] recovered the Megatron clone, also believing it to be the genuine article, only to find that "Megatron"'s mind had retreated into itself. Shockwave subjected the clone to the [[psycho-probe]], intending to force "Megatron" to face his fears—but instead, Straxus emerged, intending to fight Megatron's fears for him and finally take control of the body. Megatron fought back, however, ripping the mental image of Straxus to pieces and finally taking over their shared mind.'' {{storylink|Salvage!}}

[[File:Megatron wreckers time wars.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.67|"NOW, WITNESS THE '''MOST POWERFUL SQUAT OF ALL TIME!'''"]]
''After being thoroughly reprogrammed by Shockwave, this Megatron killed [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] in a test run'' {{storylink|Dry Run!}} ''and then proceeded to battle Galvatron. He ceased his attack after hearing from the future Decepticon that: a) Starscream would throw him out a ship in 2006, and b) Galvatron would kill him. Amused and seeing the two had a lot in common, Megatron agreed to join him.'' {{storylink|Altered Image!}} ''He helped Galvatron battle Autobots of the present and future in the "[[Time Wars]]", massacring Wreckers and the [[Mayhem Attack Squad]], but was soon put off by the growing madness and pointless destruction that his ally was causing. The Megatron clone opted instead to [[Decepticon heavy transport|return]] to Cybertron.'' {{storylink|Time Wars}}

''He was taken aback to find his homeworld so different from what he remembered it as; Autobots were wandering about, unafraid and undisturbed by the planet's Decepticon presence, even in [[Helex (polity)|Helex]], the Decepticon capital. Vowing to retake control of Cybertron, Megatron quickly dispatched a would-be Autobot assassin and sought out those responsible for the Decepticons' sorry state. He discovered that their current commanders, [[Legonis]], [[Octus (G1)|Octus]] and [[Seizer]], were leading an idle life, enjoying gladiatorial battles while lounging about and drinking high-grade oil. The [[Triumvirate]] nearly goaded Megatron into attacking them in order to have their troops kill him in retaliation, but Megatron saw through their ruse. Growing desperate to rid themselves of the challenger, Seizer shoved Megatron down in the arena to have his gladiators deal with him, but once more Megatron retained his cool. With an eloquent speech, pointing out how far the Decepticons had fallen from their former glory, Megatron effortlessly dethroned the decadent ruling trio by turning their soldiers against them. The Triumvate was destroyed, and Megatron took control of the Decepticons on the planet once more... ruling confident in the knowledge he'd become Galvatron, and ''this'' time he'd do things ''right''!'' {{storylink|The Fall and Rise of the Decepticon Empire.}}

[[File:TFUK TwoMegatrons Suicide.JPG|upright=0.85|thumb|No, no! Aim away from the face!]]
''Soon, however, he began to suffer from nightmarish visions of the lives lived by both the trooper whose body became his, and of Straxus, just as the true Megatron—having recovered his memories after a period of wandering amensia in the [[Dead End (place)|Dead End]]—attacked his base.'' {{storylink|Mind Games (G1)|Mind Games}}'' The two Megatrons battled, with the true one revealed the clone's nature to him, and all at once, everything made sense to the clone. Along with this revelation, another immediately arose—Straxus's mental defeat was a sham, and he had been dwelling within the clone's mind all along, steadily growing in power as the clone weakened. Straxus made one final attempt to seize control of their mind, and the clone committed suicide, blowing his own head off with his [[fusion cannon]], rather than allow Straxus to win.'' {{storylink|Two Megatrons!}}

{{note|The true nature of the Megatron clone was not revealed until the story which depicted his death. This was because, for all of the clone's other stories, he was regarded by characters, readers and writer [[Simon Furman]] as actually being the ''real'' Megatron, having survived his supposed death in the US comics. The US comics, however, continued to treat Megatron as pushing up daisies, so when Simon Furman took over writing that title and penned Megatron's return, he needed an explanation that would reconcile Megatron's continual appearances in the UK title with his lack of activity in the US. Relegating the Megatron of the UK comics to a clone was that explanation, revealed in UK-exclusive strips which ran concurrently with the reprints of Megatron's US return.}}

=====Trigger-Happy!=====
[[File:Trigger-happy MegatronScoop.jpg|left|thumb]]
The madness that had gripped the Megatron clone for so long began to subside, as the full ramifications of meeting his future self dawned on him. Foreknowledge that he would one day become Galvatron emboldened Megatron, and left him believing that he was invincible until such events came to pass. He still had to contend with [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]'s rogue faction however, though an opportunity to gain an upper hand against his rival soon presented itself. Megatron received word from [[Crankcase (G1)|Crankcase]] and [[Ruckus (G1)|Ruckus]] that they had acquired battle plans drafted by Scorponok, and set up a meeting to receive the documents. Though the messengers were nearly intercepted by an Autobot ambush, they evaded capture thanks to [[Backstreet (G1)|Backstreet]] botching the sting. Afterwards, Megatron learned that Backstreet had gone on the run from Autobot justice, and saw an opportunity to capitalize on the situation. Backstreet had accidentally endangered several humans before fleeing, and Megatron plotted to make the fugitive into a pariah; through him, humans might be led to believe that all Autobots meant them harm. Megatron would turn the locals against Optimus's forces, and eliminate them too once the Autobots had fallen. An altercation between Backstreet and a [[United States Army|human military convoy]] only served to further Megatron's goals.

It was [[Spinister (G1)|Spinister]] who eventually tracked down Backstreet, then squatting in an [[Riverway Fun Park|abandoned amusement park]]. Megatron ordered his troops to stand back so that he might approach Backstreet himself and "recruit" him to the Decepticons, but upon his arrival, Megatron found that both [[Scoop (G1)#Trigger-Happy!|Scoop]] and Spinister had disregarded his orders and were in the process of roughing up the Autobot. Outraged, Megatron tossed aside both his minions and ordered them away. Then, in his best attempt to appear sincere, Megatron extended a hand in friendship towards Backstreet, promising him protection and a privileged position in the Decepticon hierarchy. Despite Megatron's best efforts, Backstreet saw through his charade, and turned down the offer. Abandoning all attempts at subtlety, Megatron readied to strike Backstreet dead when Optimus Prime barged in on the scene.

Megatron ordered his troops to remain in position, declaring the honor of killing Prime to be his alone. He nearly succeeded in his attempt too, only for Backstreet to regain his senses upon hearing that his commander was willing to take him back despite his past mistakes. Megatron was knocked out by a blast from Backstreet's [[proton missile cannon]]s, and only regained consciousness in time to see the Autobots slipping away. {{storylink|Trigger-Happy!}}

=====Marvel UK future timelines=====
The Megatron clone would terrify a young Hot Rod in [[1990]] by willingly risking the lives of loyal Decepticons to flush out a [[Warmonger|double-agent]], and then muse it would've been easier to just murder everyone. Later, he would wage a [[Decepticon Civil War]] against [[Shockwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Shockwave]] and Scorponok. {{storylink|Aspects of Evil!}}

He then become Galvatron by [[2006]] and, by not fleeing to Earth's past, conquered Cybertron! Well, it seems to be him, it's very confusing. If it was him, he then got stepped on by [[Unicron]] in [[2010]]. {{storylink|Aspects of Evil!}}

====Marvel ''Generation 2'' comic====
[[File:WarWithoutEnd-Straxus.jpg|thumb|upright=0.85|His weapon gets less threatening with each appearance.]]
[[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] referred to Straxus as one of the petty, small-minded dictators he left in charge of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] when he left to start the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian Empire]]. {{storylink|War Without End!}}

====''Classics''====
Straxus was given the authority over Darkmount when [[Overlord (G1)|Gigatron]] forfeited his throne. {{storylink|Overlord (G1)#Timelines|BotCon 2012 Gigatron profile card}}

Decades after the death of Straxus, Blaster would tell of the evil Straxus to [[Primax -408.24 Epsilon|a mirror universe]]'s [[Straxus (SG)|good Straxus]]. {{storylink|Falling into Place}}

====''Transformers '84''====
[[File:SecretsAndLies2 StraxusCounterpunch.jpg|thumb|left|''Sud-den-lyyyyyyyyyy, life has new meaning... to meeeee...'']]
Though an object of disdain in Megatron's optics, Straxus was promoted to Regional Liege and given command of Darkmount by [[Punch (G1)|Counterpunch]] as part of Shockwave's schemes. In exchange for this however, Shockwave expected Straxus to lead an assault on Iacon so the data Perceptor had uncovered about Shockwave's schemes would go unnoticed. After gushing over the smelting pool, Straxus agreed. The assault on Iacon was launched and Straxus ordered his troops to secure lots of prisoners to test out his new pool. {{storylink|Secrets & Lies issue 2|Secrets & Lies #2}}

While Shockwave had intended for Straxus to be nothing more than a seat warmer, the new Regional Liege quickly established himself as a military force to be reckoned with, even as his annexing of contested territories rubbed [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]] and [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] the wrong way. After an unproductive meeting with his colleagues, Straxus went to relax by the smelting pit. Speaking with Counterpunch once again, Straxus became convinced that he was now [[Decepticon leader]], giving the spy access to whatever resources he needed to reactivate [[Project Dreadnought]]. {{storylink|Secrets & Lies issue 3|Secrets & Lies #3}}

As the scientific division worked, Straxus posted [[Abominus (G1)|Abominus]] to defend Dreadnought's hub but even with the [[combiner]]'s might, the [[Wreckers]] managed to scuttle the project. Straxus later received a distress call from the [[Conehead]]s stranded on prehistoric [[Earth]] with the lost crews of the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] and the [[Nemesis (G1)|''Nemesis'']]. Straxus made them a deal; he'd send rescue and give them high-ranking positions in his regime IF they remained mum on the location and left Megatron and co. in stasis. Faced with the alternative of Straxus promising to hunt them down and kill them, the trio of Decepticons eagerly accepted. {{storylink|Secrets & Lies issue 4|Secrets & Lies #4}}
{{--}}

===Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''United EX''====
[[File:UnitedEX2 blazing alps.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|"GAH! Don't look at me that way!"]]
Somehow traveling across universes,<ref name="EX">{{citesocial|link=https://web.archive.org/web/20160609020307/http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/89376-united-ex-translated-stories-and-bios-complete/page-2?hl=straxus#entry2149784|name=Andrew Hall|quote=My intent when writing the story was that he be the Straxus from the comics universe himself, appearing as a result of some teleportation or experimental technology, just as Thunderwing appeared in the United stories.|year=2012|month=09|day=24|site=The Allspark|title=United EX translated stories and bios (COMPLETE)}}</ref> Straxus inserted himself into the alternate universe's Decepticons led by [[Scrash (G1)|Scrash]], becoming part of the [[Master Chaos]] in his pursuit of new technology. With his new body, he gained the new identity of "'''Rollermaster'''" (ローラーマスター ''Rōrāmasutā'') and the [[Targetmaster (technology)|Targetmaster]] [[Spanner (United)|Spanner]]. {{storylink|#United EX 2|''United EX'' Straxus bio}}

Rollermaster revealed the existence of the Decepticon Master Chaos brigade to the Autobots when he attacked [[Blaze Master|Choppermaster]], who was training in the Swiss Alps. Rollermaster overrode the Autobot flyer's control of the PCC drones, achieving his own combination form. {{storylink|In the Blazing Alps}}

Rollermaster and Choppermaster fought to a standstill, but [[Onslaught (G1)|Combatmaster]] stepped in at the end and easily snatched up the drones from the wounded Autobot. {{storylink|Prelude to the Siege}}

====Metrowars====
[[File:Ultra Megatron head Straxus Metrowars.jpg|thumb|left]]
Straxus eventually shed his Master Chaos identity and was appointed leader of a Decepticon force concentrated on [[Metrotitan (G1)|Metrotitan]], whose base mode he dubbed "Darkmount" after his old haunts. Straxus somehow acquired a rebuilt and comatose [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Megatron]], who he attempted to brainwash with his technology. When the Decepticon Emperor resisted, Straxus noted that more of such would crumble Megatron's "diabolical nature". In the meantime, he led an attack on [[Metroplex (G1)|Scramble City]], but the Decepticon forces fled when the Autobots showed the power of a newly reborn [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]. {{storylink|Metrowars}}

Following the failure of this attack, Straxus worked on repairing the wounded Metrotitan whilst simultaneously manipulating his thoughts and emotions. {{storylink|Metrowars 2}}

====''Legends'' comic====
Straxus's schemes were interrupted when Metroplex confronted him and asked him to give up on fighting, seeing as the recent discovery of the unlimited energy source [[Nucleon (substance)|nucleon]] made the Decepticons' thirst for energy pointless. Responding that his desire to conquer was unrelated to the war for energy, Straxus had Metrotitan attack Metroplex, but he was decisively defeated. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Metroplex)|Bonus Edition Vol. EX}}
{{--}}

===2005 IDW continuity===
[[File:Straxusidw.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|I may or may not be here in subsequent panels, depending on how the artist feels today.]]
Straxus of [[Yuss]] {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 1: Post Hoc|Post Hoc}} was part of the crew of the first ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'', which left Cybertron six million years ago. The ship was lost to the [[Dead Universe]], and Straxus and his crewmates became the living dead, unable to survive in their home universe for long periods of time. {{storylink|Spotlight: Cyclonus}} Despite this, however, an erroneous account placed Straxus on Cybertron two million years later, working security at the [[Kaon Security Headquarters]] just prior to the outbreak of the Autobot/Decepticon war. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 4|Megatron Origin #4}}

In the present day, [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] was abducted on [[Gorlam Prime]], Straxus implanted a device in his brain that would make him a sleeper agent for the Dead Universe crew.<ref>{{citesocial|quote=The script I worked from for Hardhead notes that Straxus was the bad boy who lodged the implant in Nightbeat's head, but Jhiaxus is the guy behind the wheel when it comes to remotely operating Nightbeat. Make of that what you will!|name=Kris Carter|link=https://archive.is/tPL5x#selection-881.0-881.8|year=2008|month=07|day=17|title=SPOTLIGHT: HARDHEAD / Rev #2 - Reaction Thread|site=IDW Publishing Forums}}</ref> {{storylink|Spotlight: Nightbeat}}

[[File:SpotlightDoubledealer Straxus Transforms.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|And yet, surprisingly few kitbashes from Cybertron [[Sideways (Armada)#Cybertron|Sideways]]...]]
After [[Cyclonus (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Cyclonus]] secured the [[Nega-Core]] and activated its guardian, Straxus initiated the [[Expansion]] with [[Nova Prime|Nemesis Prime]] and the rest of the Dead Universe crew. {{storylink|Spotlight: Cyclonus}}

Later, Straxus attacked Earth with [[Grindcore (G1)|Grindcore]]. His job was to bombard the surface in his jet mode and then operate an [[energon]] drill while Grindcore set up a [[space bridge]]. {{storylink|Spotlight: Doubledealer}}

Straxus and Grindcore soon had to defend this site when an Autobot team led by [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] stormed it, trying to prevent the Expansion. [[Sideswipe (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Sideswipe]] ended up holding off both of them at the same time while the other Autobots slipped by. The [[Benzuli Expanse]] anomaly was soon sealed off, and unable to survive without their connection to the Dead Universe, both Straxus and Grindcore simply... ceased functioning. {{storylink|Spotlight: Sideswipe}}
{{--}}

===''Universe'' toy bios===
During Straxus's rule over Polyhex, he put a lowly, unknown warrior through an excruciating rebuilding process, tortuously reforging him into the very image of Optimus Prime. Through forcible data uploads and brainwashing, the Decepticon was imbued with memories and skills culled from many sources, giving him much of Optimus Prime's knowledge and combat algorithms. However, Straxus perished before he could complete this "[[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Nemesis Prime]]", and his creation was left without a framework with which to process the mental injections. Straxus's legacy was this mad wraith haunting the back alleys of Cybertron, hunting down Autobots and Decepticons alike. {{storylink|Nemesis Prime (G1)#Universe (2008)|''Universe'' Nemesis Prime bio}}

===''Wings Universe''===
Straxus was one of a number of [[Decepticon Warlord]]s who fought for territory in the early days of the Great War. With the threat of the [[Elite Guard]], the Warlords formed a war council. During one meeting, they reviewed footage of the Elite Guard wiping out some of [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]]'s men, and discussed ways of ridding themselves of the Elite Guard. At the next meeting of the council, [[Deathsaurus (G1)|Deathsaurus]] sent along his lieutenant, [[Falcon (G1)|Falcon]], with a box containing an important message. The message turned out to be a bomb, which killed the council members present. {{storylink|A Team Effort}}

===''United''===
[[File:FierceFightingOnPlanetNebulos-StraxusDecepticons.jpg|thumb]]
A [[nano-virus]] that afflicted most Autobots save the [[Targetmaster (technology)|Targetmasters]] and the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] required [[Ricochet (Headmasters)|Ricochet]] to lead a team to [[Nebulos]] for an anti-virus. However, the nano-virus was merely a ploy by the Decepticons to draw out the Targetmasters and Headmasters to abduct their [[Nebulan]] partners, so when the Autobots arrived on Nebulos, Straxus was waiting for them with a considerable army! His army quickly fell into disarray, unfortunately, when Straxus was singled out and defeated. He returned to his [[Thunderwing (G1)|master]] to beg forgiveness. {{storylink|The Fierce Fighting on Planet Nebulos}}

===''Kre-O'' online manga===
[[File:KreO-webcomic-5-Straxus.jpg|upright=0.6|thumb|left]]
Straxus was part of a massive Decepticon invasion force intended to ruin the Autobots' picnic. However, [[Optimus Prime (Kre-O)|Optimus Prime]] plowed through them with his truck and left them scattered... and then left. Returning to the scene after.. ''ahem'', taking care of some pressing business, Optimus gathered up the still-wiped-out Kreons, bound them up on a flatbed trailer, and took them to the picnic. {{storylink|Emergency! Hurry to the Base, Optimus!}}

===''Transformers vs. G.I. Joe''===
[[File:FuneralForAFriend StraxusHee.jpg|thumb|upright=0.6]]
Part of Megatron's inner circle, Straxus was present when [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] delivered [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]]'s head to the Decepticon leader. {{storylink|The Golden Boys}} He was giggling creepily to himself in a corner when [[Destro]] appeared before Megatron offering an alliance. {{storylink|Funeral for a Friend}} When the Decepticons withdrew from a battle without finishing the Autobots off, Straxus recognized that Megatron just wouldn't admit he'd sustained injuries in battle with [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]. {{storylink|Everybody Hates Metroplex}}

===''TransTech''===
[[File:Kre-OStraxus-CMW.jpg|thumb|upright=0.5|left]]
When the [[Waruder]]s caused a blackout in [[Axiom Nexus]], a [[Kreon]] Straxus within the offworlder maximum security prison fought it out with his fellow inmates, particularly a Kreon [[Scrounge (G1)|Scrounge]]. {{storylink|Cybertron's Most Wanted}}

===Ask Vector Prime===
Pity the multiverse's [[Archforce]]s, for Straxuses surgically altered them to look like Megatron. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/08/10}}

In [[Primax 092.0 Beta]], [[Hyperdrive (Turbomaster)|Hyperdrive]] gathered as many Autobot survivors as he could and stormed Straxus's shipyards, commandeering the ''[[Iron Hope (G1)|Iron Hope]]'' and setting back the Decepticons' space infrastructure by hundreds of stellar cycles. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/07/16}}

===''Of Masters and Mayhem''===
Straxus developed a mental conditioning program which [[Loudpedal]] and [[Oil Slick (G1)|Oil Slick]] applied on [[Toxitron (Universe)|Toxitron]]. {{storylink|The Toxic Transformer}}
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===Precursor World===
[[File:Selects Brightes.jpg|thumb|150px|Seriously, and she's so rude. Reminds me of my complaining customers.]]

In [[Precursor World|the universe prior]] to the [[G1 World]], a single spark split into two, forming twin Straxuses, who were effectively immortal as long as the other one lived. {{storylink|Source:Profile Plus#January_14.2C_2017|Profile+, January 14, 2017}} At some point, both joined the order of protectors known as the [[Blue Order]] of the [[Primus Vanguard]]. One rose through the ranks to become "Chief of Engineering" (技術長官 ''Gijutsu Chōkan''), {{storylink|Blue Big Convoy comic}} but his beloved commander [[Brightes|Blue Brightes Convoy]] ultimately passed him over for leadership of the Blue Order in favor of [[Blue Big Convoy|Big]] on his deathbed. {{storylink|Generations Selects Special Comic Finale Prelude|Finale Prelude}} Infuriated, Straxus swore to get his revenge someday. {{storylink|God Neptune comic 1}} In the meantime, Chief Straxus was once saved from a [[Specter]] attack by Blue, who shocked Straxus by lending him his powerful [[Matrix Sword]] to protect himself. {{storylink|Blue Big Convoy comic}} Coveting the power of the sword, this Straxus joined forces with his counterpart, and they developed a rage-inducing program that they secretly implanted into their blue comrades. {{storylink|Cybertron Magna Convoy}} {{Storylink|God Neptune comic 1}} Experiments into producing spare bodies for themselves created the [[Rollermaster Corps|Rollermasters]], but their stunted intelligence resulted in them being used as little more than slaves. {{storylink|Source:Profile Plus#January_15.2C_2017_.281.29|Profile+, January 15, 2017 (1)}}

[[File:MC comic Primal Vanguard Straxuses.jpg|thumb|left|We're going to kill you twice over!]]

When the [[Blue Planet (GS)|Blue Planet]] was embroiled in a three-way conflict between [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Star Convoy]], [[King Poseidon]], and [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Megatron]], Straxus joined the rest of the Blue Order in neutralizing the [[Decepticon]] threat. {{Storylink|Super Megatron comic 2}} When Ultra Megatron further evolved into Ultra Megatron Omega, the Straxuses took the opportunity to activate their sleeper program, causing all members of the Blue Order to tear each other apart. Blue himself was forced to stab himself with the Matrix Sword lest he harm a comrade, which amused Chief Straxus as he took the sword. Seeking an end to the rest of the Vanguard and Primus's ambitions, the Straxuses joined forces with Megatron Omega, and the three left the Blue Planet. Soon reaching the [[Purple Planet]], they met with [[Purple Wicked Convoy]], who proposed an alliance. {{storylink|God Neptune comic 1}} Together, the Straxuses, Purple, Megatron Omega, and a Rollermaster confronted [[God Neptune]], who had already pilfered the other orders' matrices while they were occupied with Purple. Chief Straxus attempted a swing at the combiner with the Matrix Sword, but God Neptune simply shrugged it off and replied with a powerful swing from the [[Matrix Saber]] that sent the traitor flying. The Matrix Sword, however, revealed itself to be the resting place of Blue's spirit, who attempted to turn the tide against God Neptune before dissipating. The combiner was taken care of by Megatron Omega, however, and the stolen matrices became the Decepticon's spoils. He began to use the [[Silver Matrix]] to absorb the [[Star Power]] from the other matrices, to the Straxuses' delight, but joy turned to horror when [[Halfshell]] bisected Megatron with the [[Neptune Sword]]. Megatron Omega wasn't down, though, and absorbed the twins' energies to reform himself as "Megatron Omega: Complete Form". {{storylink|God Neptune comic 2}}

The twins walked this off, eventually making their way back to the Blue Planet, only to be confronted by the visage of Blue Brightes Convoy! The overjoyed Straxuses' spirits quickly fell as Megatron's new minion [[Blue Megatron]] revealed his cruel trick and blasted them with his shoulder cannon.

[[File:MC comic Straxuses.jpg|thumb|150px|I'll be sure Travis gets your head in the mail!]]

Some time later, the Straxuses, having survived the subsequent commotion, managed to kidnap [[Primus|Oracle]], the core form of Primus himself. {{storylink|Generations Selects Special Comic Finale|Finale}}

At their fortress in [[Darkmount (Cybertron)|Darkmount]], the Straxuses experimented on the Matrix Sword, using the energies of Blue Big Convoy's [[spark]] which were still tied to the blade to create the clone [[Convobat|C-6]]. {{storylink|Cybertron Magna Convoy prequel comic}} To introduce the traits of organic life to the next generation of [[Transformer]]s, they also performed experiments that created a new, hybrid form of Cybertronian, applying the results to C-6 and [[Megalligator|D-6]]. {{storylink|Convobat#Legends|''Legends'' Convobat bio}} The twins called an assembly of their creations, where they announced their intention to use their "children" to exploit the power vacuum left by the departed Primus Vanguard and conquer the [[Precursor World]] themselves. {{storylink|Generations Selects Special Comic Finale|Finale}} They trained C-6 as an assassin and granted him the name "Convobat", but punished him for hesitating when it came to killing. When Convobat and D-6, now calling himself Megalligator, tried to escape, ex-Chief Straxus confronted the two but was taken by surprise when Megalligator exploded a [[transtector]] in his face and failed to stop them. {{storylink|Cybertron Convobat prequel comic}} Though he survived the blast, this Straxus was reduced to a disembodied head, kept in a mobile sphere. {{storylink|Cybertron Magna Convoy prequel comic}}

[[Magna Convoy]], a Primus Vanguard drone brought to life by the energies of the dying Blue and the last survivor of the group, vowed revenge and attacked Darkmount to recover the Matrix Sword. It had lost all its power, however, and Straxus and his allies easily bested the intruder. When the defeated Convoy was teleported away, the head Straxus believed his spirit was crushed and considered the problem solved, but the other Straxus was determined to hunt him down. {{storylink|Cybertron Magna Convoy prequel comic}} He and his [[Rollermaster Corps]] pursued Magna Convoy to a planet's surface and battled him again, but Convoy had found new resolve in his mission to protect Convobat and was able to call upon the Matrix Sword's power to defeat Straxus. The crippled Straxus was then finished off by his own Rollermaster troops, one of which claimed that ''they'' were Straxus now. Meanwhile, the remaining Straxus was among the Cybertronians being observed by [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] from an unknown location. {{storylink|Cybertron Magna Convoy}}

===''Legends'' comic===
In the [[Legends World]], Megalligator and Convobat's exploits were known as fiction in the form of the ''[[Transformers: Convobat Amazon Showdown|Convobat Amazon Showdown]]'' film, created by [[Nightscream (BM)|Nightscream]]. [[Cheetor (BW)|The native Cheetor]] played Straxus, but Nightscream didn't appreciate him fooling around. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Convobat)|Bonus Edition Vol. EX}}

===''Transformers/Ghostbusters''===
Straxus was among the many Decepticons who fought back against [[Gozer]], but was ultimately felled by the extradimensional invader. His shattered body fell near [[Decepticon High Command]] as Shockwave reported to Megatron that even the [[combiner]]s had failed. {{storylink|Ghosts of Cybertron Part 2}}

===2019 IDW continuity===
[[File:EscapePartOne-Straxxus.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Mercy is not dispensed here, fools, only sex appeal.]]
A multi-disciplinary theoretician, '''Straxxus''' was an incredibly intelligent, and incredibly grouchy, Cybertronian. He attended [[Highbrow (G1)|Highbrow]]'s [[Academy of Research|academy]] but left because others kept disagreeing with him. Leaving his studies behind, Straxxus became the Senator of [[Darkmount (Cybertron)|Darkmount]], running the province as an independent state and had never bothered to attend a [[Senate]] meeting.

In the era of the [[Decepticon]]s, Straxxus began to fear the increasing geological activity that began plaguing Cybertron, his calculations leading him to consider that Cybertron might literally shake itself apart. To evacuate his citizens, Straxxus brought one of the old ''Ark''-class vessels docked in Darkmount and had it restored to operational capacity while transmitting his geological data to [[Crystal City]] for further analysis. {{storylink|Escape Part Two}} Needing a way to enact a mass exodus of refugees off Cybertron to escape the Decepticon threat, the Autobots decided to petition Straxxus for use of his ships. {{storylink|Escape Part One}} When Highbrow called about the ''Ark''<nowiki>s</nowiki>, Straxxus was more interested in discussing his geological findings with [[Geomotus]], but he ultimately promised the vessels to Highbrow. {{storylink|Escape Part Two}}

To properly evacuate Darkmount, Straxxus found that he would need two and a half of the cargo capacities of the ''Ark''s. As repairs on the ships began, the stardrive of the fourth exploded, delaying its launch. {{storylink|Escape Part Four}} When [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]'s convoy of refugees arrived at Darkmount, Straxxus barred them for a time. {{storylink|Escape Part Three}}

When three of the four ships were nearing launch capacity, Straxxus invited Wheeljack, Highbrow and [[Nautica (G1)|Nautica]] within his city and revealed that he would need three of the ships, while issuing another warning about the impending tectonic disasters. {{storylink|Escape Part Four}}

As loading continued, the [[Insecticon swarm]] attacked. Convinced that this was the best time to launch, Straxxus sealed the city's gates and set off with two ships. Unaware that the Insecticons were drawn to the largest concentrations of energon however, the second ''Ark'', loaded with colonization supplies, was targeted by the clones who ate through to its fuel lines and caused it to detonate. Straxxus subsequently led the majority of his people off Cybertron and to a new world. {{storylink|Escape Part Five}}
{{--}}

==Games==
===''Transformers Legends''===
Straxus, [[Axer (G1)|Axer]], and [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]] accompanied [[Nova Prime|Nemesis Prime]] on a mission to defeat Nemesis's former self, Nova Prime. {{storylink|Prime Evil}}

Straxus was part of a Decepticon raiding party that scoured a Human military base for the [[MacGuffin Generator]]. Straxus's job was to look in every building to check if it housed the generator, and reduce it to rubble if it didn't. The Decepticons eventually found the device, despite some Autobot interference, but it proved to be more volatile than they had anticipated. The Generator exploded, sending Straxus and the Decepticons flying off into the distance. {{storylink|Raiding Party}}

===''Transformers: Battle Tactics''===
[[File:BattleTacticsDarkmount.jpg|thumb|{{w|Shredder (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles)|SHREDDER!!}}]]
Darkmount participated in battles against a variety of opponents, both Autobots and Decepticons. Sometimes there were many of him! He was a Rare character who could be recruited after collecting 110 units of Cybermetal, 60 units of Transmetal, and 35 support cores. {{storylink|Transformers: Battle Tactics}}
{{--}}

===''Transformers: Earth Wars''===
[[File:Straxus-Earth-Wars.jpg|thumb|upright=1.75|Purple? Where did that come from?]]
Straxus of [[Polyhex]] contacted Starscream to work together and overthrow Megatron, His plan involved [[Sludge (G1)#Transformers: Earth Wars|Slog]] and the Insecticons. When Starscream asked if they know that they are part of a larger scheme, he replied that they, like Slog, are just primitive creatures driven by instinct. {{storylink|Dark Deeds}} Bombshell reported to Straxus that he had taken control of Slog, but a little less responsive. {{storylink|Mind Games (EW)|Mind Games}} As Megatron was preparing to send Slog on his first mission, Straxus reminded Starscream that he was overdoing his flattery. As Starscream went over his signal to Slog to "Crush Megatron", Straxus planned for Slog to crush Starscream afterwards. At the Decepticon's abandoned space-port, things went according to plan. Straxus ordered Starscream to activate the Space Bridge, and then approached Megatron, but was surprised to see that he was still functional. Megatron then blew him away to kingdom come with his fusion cannon. {{storylink|Double-Crossed}}

Megatron had Bombshell apply one of his cerebro-shells on Straxus, making him an obedient and powerful asset to Megatron, with no memories of his conspiracy. But Skrapnel was aware that the memories could always come back - especially if Bombshell had rigged them that way...

*'''Class''' - Warrior
*'''Lowest Star Rating:''' 2 stars
*'''Weapons:''' Straxus uses his battle axe to dispense damage to buildings and defenses.
*'''Ability:''' '''Seismic Charge''' - Target an enemy wall with a resonating seismic charge. The explosion deals damage for each wall within the radius, and quadruple damage to walls.
**'''Cost:''' 8 ability points + 3 for reuses.

[http://wiki.transformersearthwars.com/character:straxus Straxus at Transformers: Earth Wars Wiki]

===''Transformers Roleplaying Game''===
Lord High Governor Straxus was the brutal governor of the Decepticon colony planet [[Lucifer]]. {{storylink|Decepticon Directive}}

==Toys==
===''Generations''===
[[File:Generationstoy-Darkmount.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|You're welcome.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Darkmount''' (Deluxe, [[2010]])}}</ul>
:*''Accessories'': Pick-axe/cannon, missile launcher, machine gun, smoke grenade launchers
{{toydesigner|[[Joe Kyde]] (Hasbro), [[Tomoya Miyake]] (TakaraTomy)}}

: Part of the second wave of ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'', Darkmount ("Straxus" was [[trademark|unavailable]]) transforms into a half-tracked {{w|self-propelled artillery}} inspired by the {{w|G6 howitzer|South African G6 Rhino}}, as well as a tripod-mounted {{w|howitzer}} platform called a "battle station".

: In vehicle mode, the turret can rotate and the barrel can raise. Initially it was planned to have him interact with Scout Class figures who could man his "fortress mode". The remainders of that idea are the otherwise pointless handlebars that end up on his knees in robot mode.<ref name="generations11">{{citesocial|quote=In the early stages, a Scout class Transformer was to be able to man Straxus's fortress mode. The bars on his robot-mode knees became the handles on the fortress mode, and this is all that remains of the concept.|name=Hisashi Yuki|site=''[[Transformers Generations 2011 Vol. 1]]''|year=2011|month=04|day=27}}, translated via {{citesocial|link=http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/428825-takaratomy-staff-interview-generations-united.html|site=Transformers World 2005|title=TakaraTomy Staff Interview - Generations/United|name=SydneyY|year=2011|month=07|day=07}}</ref> In robot mode, the cannon barrel becomes his trademark pick-axe weapon, while his smaller weapons (featuring [[C joint]]s) can clip onto various compatible rungs, bars and tubes sculpted onto the vehicle or robot. Despite his portly robot form, and his alternate half-track mode, his tech specs list his speed rank as 10.

: Darkmount's color scheme (with its red biceps and gold chest) is an amalgam of his Marvel appearances (which have inconsistent coloring). "M17" is written on his vehicle mode, referencing "[[The Smelting Pool!|Marvel #17]]", the comic issue in which Straxus first appeared. His head is designed with a light-piping feature but it is not utilized.

: So why "Darkmount" for the toy instead of the obviously made-up "Straxus", theoretically easy to [[trademark]]? One possible explanation is that an Austrian company, [http://www.stadlbauer.at/74.0.html?&L=1 Stadlbauer], has owned "Strax" as an international registered trademark for toys since 1966, and applied to register the term in the United States [http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=79069729&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch in 2009]. This would give Stadlbauer a solid legal hold on the term versus another company trying to use a soundalike in the same field.

: The mold was [[redeco]]ed into ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]''/''[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (toyline)|Shattered Glass]]'' [[Straxus (SG)#Timelines|The Bard of Darkmount]] and [[retool]]ed into ''Generations'' [[Skullgrin#Generations|Skullgrin]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Decepticon/Darkmount/darkmount.htm More information on Darkmount at TFU.info]''
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===''United''===
[[File:United Straxus Toy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|TakaraTomy will collect the fee...''personally!'']]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Straxus''' (ストラクサス, 2010)}}</ul>
:*''ID number:'' '''UN-10'''
:*''Release date'': [[2010]] [[December 25]]
:*''Accessories'': "Battle axe"/cannon, missile launcher, machine gun, smoke grenade launchers

: Darkmount was redecoed for inclusion in the first wave of [[TakaraTomy]]'s ''[[Transformers United|United]]'' toyline, and even released under his original name. He now sports a new color scheme that replaces much of his grey plastic and ''all'' of his red plastic with more dark blue and new light-blue pieces, apparently shooting to emulate Straxus as he was colored in his [[The Bridge to Nowhere!|second Marvel appearance]], drawing particular inspiration from the [[:File:MarvelUS-18.jpg|cover]] of the issue. And he's got his dead, black eyes!

: Besides the black eyes, Straxus features additional paint on his face as well as his crotch plate and knee flaps.
::*''[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers-toys/gallery/transformers-united/straxus/2799/1/ Image gallery of ''United'' Straxus at Seibertron.com]''
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===''United EX''===
[[File:United-toy RollerMaster.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|"Dad, was that your Straxus?"<br> "...I don't know."]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''Rollermaster vs Choppermaster''' (ローラーマスター VS チョッパーマスター, [[2012]])}}</ul>
:*''ID number'': '''EX P1'''
:*''Release date'': [[2012]] [[September 22]]

: Released in the first wave of TakaraTomy's ''[[Transformers United|United EX]]'' toyline, "Rollermaster" is a [[redeco]] of the ''[[Power Core Combiners]]'' [[Icepick (PCC)#Toys|Icepick]] toy, transforming into a treaded snow-plow vehicle of probably-made-up model. Unlike most ''Power Core Combiners'' Commander molds, Rollermaster does not have [[5 mm post]] holes in or near his hands to allow him to use hand-held weapons. He has some sweet claws, though, and the hardpoint on his right shoulder allows him to use a Mini-Con's weapon mode as a shoulder-mounted emplacement. A flip-up [[Powerlinx]] socket on his chest allows him to use [[Mini-Con]]s as armor. He also has a secondary "Prime mode" configuration in which he forms a super robot torso; in this mode he can use the drone-limbs from any 5-pack set to make a new super-robot.

: He was only available in a set with [[Blaze Master#United EX 2|Choppermaster]], [[Spanner (United)|Spanner]], and [[Firebug (United)|Firebug]].

:This figure was [[Repurposing|repurposed]] as the [[Rollermaster Corps]] drones in Takara's ''[[Spin Off]]'' comics.
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===''Generations Comic Edition''===
[[File:TF-Comic-Edition-Leader-Straxus.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Huh, [[Time Wars|so Straxus DID become Galvatron]].]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Decepticon Straxus''' (Leader Class, 2024)}}</ul>
:*''Accessories'': Pickaxe, cannon barrel
{{toydesigner|[[Evan Brooks]] (Hasbro), [[Shogo Hasui]] (TakaraTomy)|[[Amy Bence]] and [[Marcelo Matere]] (packaging art)}}<ref>[[April 25]], [[2024]]'s [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s06YE02e844 Hasbro Pulse Transformers Fanstream | April 2024] on YouTube, with [[Ben MacCrae]], [[Mark Maher]] and [[Evan Brooks]].</ref><ref>[[May 14]], 2024's [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOXZGDHebTk Hasbro Pulse | Transformers Fanstream | May 2024] on YouTube, with [[Ben MacCrae]], [[Evan Brooks]] and [[Kelly Rose]].</ref>

: Released as part of the 40th Anniversary ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)#Comic Edition|Generations Comic Edition]]'' subline, "Decepticon Straxus" is a ''heavy'' [[retool]]ing of the ''[[War for Cybertron: Kingdom]]'' [[Galvatron (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Galvatron]] figure, transforming into a comic-accurate flying cannon in 39 steps. He includes a new pickaxe accessory, with hinged winglets to complete the look of the alt-mode. In robot mode, the cannon barrel can be a hand-held weapon or stored out of sight on his back. His deco features some "comic art" touches, with black stripes and "dot-tone" areas to make him look a bit more like old-style comic art, though it's a lot more subtle on him than the others in the line (likely due to this being the first actually-comic-based Straxus toy produced).

: The front of Straxus' box features the cover art from "[[The Bridge to Nowhere!]]", albeit it's the version used for [[IDW Publishing|IDW]]'s ''[[The Transformers Classics]]'' reprints with the missing background and [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]]'s darker colors. When placed next to ''Comic Edition'' [[Grimlock (G1)/toys#Generations Comic Edition|Grimlock]], [[Shockwave (G1)/toys#Generations Comic Edition|Shockwave]], and [[Xaaron#Generations Comic Edition|Emirate Xaaron]] & [[Flame (Marvel)#Generations Comic Edition|Autobot Flame]], the art on the side of the figures' boxes will form a small mural.

: As with all the ''Generations Comic Edition'' toys, Straxus was a [[Hasbro Pulse]] [[exclusive]]. He was put up for pre-order on [[May 14]] following that day's livestream product reveal.
{{WFCKingdomGalvatronMold}}
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==Merchandise==
===''Transformers Trading Card Game''===
[[File:W1Darkmount.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]
*'''Darkmount, Cruel Overlord''' (2018)
**'''Wave 1'''
**''Rarity: '''''RT'''
**''Card Number: '''''T12/T40'''
**''Stars: ''9
:'''Darkmount, Cruel Overlord''' (presumably once again renamed due to trademark reasons) is one of forty double-sided character cards available in Wave 1 of the ''[[Transformers Trading Card Game]]''.

:The artwork on the card is reused from the ''[[Transformers Legends (mobile game)|Transformers Legends]]'' mobile card game, with line-art by [[Dan Khanna]], and is based on the ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Transformers: Generations]]'' Darkmount toy.
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===''Transformers Character Card''===
[[File:Transformers Character Card Magna Convoy and Straxus.jpg|upright=1|thumb]]
*'''Magna Convoy & Straxus Set''' ([[April 14]], [[2022]])
**''ID number:'' '''13 & 14'''
{{toydesigner|[[Shin Sasaki]] (illustration)}}

:Released as part of the third wave of the [[e-HOBBY]] exclusive ''[[Transformers Character Card]]'' series, this pair of holographic trading cards depict super-deformed art of [[Magna Convoy]] and Straxus along with [[bio|character profiles]] and [[Tech Spec|tech specs]].
::*''[[Source:Transformers Character Card#14|Translation of Straxus's Transformers Character Card]]''
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==Notes==
[[File:StraxusChangesColors.jpg|thumb|Consistency is not dispensed here, fools, only GAFFES!]]
*Straxus's colors change drastically between the two issues he is in for the Marvel US comic. Also sometimes between panels. The design of his weapon is also unstable; in his first issue, it looks like a pick-axe, but when Straxus battles Blaster in his second issue, it is shown as a scythe.
*Straxus was mentioned in [[San Diego Comic-Con|Comic-Con]] 2008 [[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Nemesis Prime]]'s bio entirely to make [[David Willis]] happy.<ref>Personal correspondence with Hasbro copy writer [[Forest Lee]].</ref>
*Straxus in the online ''Kre-O'' comic is made from existing ''Kre-O'' parts. He uses [[Bumblebee (Kre-O)|Bumblebee]]'s helmet and a pair of scythe-weapons from the ''[[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]] Kre-O'' sets. The Straxus that appears in "[[Cybertron's Most Wanted]]", meanwhile, wears the ''Kre-O'' [[Major Bludd]] helmet and a pickaxe built from existing parts; it was based on an [[:File:KreonStraxusConcept.jpg|unused proposal]] by [[Greg Sepelak]].<ref>{{citesocial|link=https://twitter.com/MSipher/status/868304136021958657|name=Greg Sepelak|site=Twitter}}</ref>
*Straxus keeps picking up ''[[Microman]]'' bodies in the [[Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]: in "[[Metrowars]]", he is drawn to resemble the "Micro Robot" Armored Suit figure [[Microman#Bulsonic|Bulsonic (Blue Type)]], apparently in reference to a Japanese fandom theory that the character's original design was inspired by said toy,<ref>{{citesocial|name=Andrew Hall|link=https://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/29173-tf-pulp-update-november-30-2013-ehobby-magnificus-badlands-online/page-19#entry2384162|site=The Allspark|defunct=yes}}</ref> and in the [[Cybertron Magna Convoy prequel comic]], his disembodied head rolls around in the "Project Victory" Mecha-Cosmo vehicle [[Microman#Escargot|Escargot]]!
*Hasbro planned to center the storyline of ''[[Transformers: Legacy]]'' around Straxus as the main villain.<ref>{{citesocial|quote=I’m probably not allowed to say but he originally popped up in the Marvel Comics and has had several different names over the years. I will tell you he was the planned major villain in Legacy and we had quite a lot planned for him.|link=https://twitter.com/FJDesanto/status/1727669169460830518|name=F.J. DeSanto|site=Twitter|year=2023|month=11|day=23}}</ref> To this goal, a Leader Class Straxus toy was solicited for the first year of the toyline,<ref>[https://news.tfw2005.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/DM.png Amazon.com page listing for a "TRA GEN Legacy EV Leader DARKMOUNT"]</ref> and art was produced for his eventual design in the franchise.<ref>[https://news.tfw2005.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/Unused-Legacy-Straxus-Art-First-Look-00.png Unused ''Legacy'' Straxus art at TFW2005.com]</ref> [[Anna Malkova]] created the design featured in the 2019 IDW comics as a stepping stone toward this purpose, along with an "after 'accident'" design closer to the ''Legacy'' art and homaging the character's fate in the UK comics of being a head in a jar.<ref>{{citesocial|quote=oh yah, dat's Straxus for sure. source: i did a prelim design for the lad. Since it's old news and stuff got changed after I done my part - might as well share|link=https://twitter.com/Anna__Malkova/status/1727686193129672741|name=Anna Malkova|site=Twitter|year=2023|month=11|day=23}}</ref> When [[Netflix]] declined to pick up the planned three-season ''Legacy'' series,<ref>{{citesocial|quote=We developed a three season LEGACY animated series and a story bible for the toy line. Hasbro did incredible art for it (which is where that image comes from). After Netflix passed on making the series, Hasbro decided to not do a story driven toy line like WFC.|name=F.J. DeSanto|site=Twitter|year=2023|month=11|day=23|link=https://twitter.com/FJDesanto/status/1727674948809060448}}</ref> those plans were dropped—the second design for Straxus never appeared in the comics and the toy was replaced with [[Megatron (BW)/toys#Legacy|Transmetal II Megatron]].<ref>The "TRA GEN Legacy EV Leader DARKMOUNT" listing at Amazon.com was replaced with Transmetal II Megatron.</ref>

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Straxus''' (ストラクサス ''Sutorakusasu'')
*''Mandarin:'' '''Straxus''' (China, 斯塔萨斯 ''Sītǎsàsī'')

==Gallery==
<gallery>
File:AnnaMalkovaStraxusConcepts.jpg|2019 design with proposed alternate body
</gallery>

==References==
{{reflist|2}}

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Venezuela

2025-04-24T23:33:29Z

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'''Venezuela''' is a [[South America]]n country with a lot of oil.

==Fiction==
===''Transformers Comic-Magazin''===
In [[1973]], [[Dreadwind (G1)|Dreadwind]] and [[Darkwing (G1)|Darkwing]] left [[Nevada]] to fly to Venezuela, intending to attack an [[oil tanker]] just off the coast. [[Crossblades (G1)|Crossblades]] coordinated with the Venezuelan coast guard to lay a trap for the Decepticons and thus when [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] and his troops took control of the tanker, the Autobots were able to rescue the crew and see the Decepticons off. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 17|Powermaster Optimus Prime - a Robot, a Hero}}

==External links==
*{{w|Venezuela}} on Wikipedia

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Alabama

2025-04-19T23:35:09Z

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'''Alabama''' is a [[United States of America|US]] state, located in the southeast bordering [[Florida]], [[Tennessee]], [[Georgia]] and [[Mississippi]].

==Fiction==
===Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics===
The [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]] raided a chemical storage facility outside [[Huntsville]], stealing cylinders of [[liquid oxygen]] {{storylink|Toy Soldiers!}}

===2005 IDW continuity===
[[Ratchet (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ratchet]], along with humans [[Verity Carlo]] and [[Jimmy Pink]], landed in [[Wicksburg]] in an escape pod after [[Sixshot (G1)|Sixshot]] shot down the ''[[Ark-19]]''. When the group was again attacked by Sixshot, the Decepticon was engaged by the [[United States Air Force]], allowing Ratchet, Verity and Jimmy to cross the state border into Florida. {{storylink|Devastation issue 3}}

===Titan movie comics===
The town of [[Sylacauga]] was destroyed when the Autobots were unable to contain a raw [[energon]] seam. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 17|Return to Cybertron: Part 1}}

==External links==
*{{w|Alabama|Alabama at Wikipedia}}

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Hydro-Pack

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{{factions|autobot}}
:''The Hydro-Pack is an [[Action Master]] accessory from the [[The Transformers (toyline)|toyline portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
The '''Hydro-Pack''' can transform into a high-pressure cannon that can shoot any kind of liquid. With this ability, [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] can use it as a weapon to fight fire and the [[Decepticon]]s. And, it may or may not have been used on Friday nights.

==Toys==
===''The Transformers''===
[[File:ActionMaster Inferno.jpg|upright=1|thumb|...where does the water come from?]]
*'''Inferno with Hydro-Pack''' ([[Action Master]], [[1990]])
**''Accessories:'' Hydro-Pack, [[magna-blast gun]]
{{toydesigner|[[Masakatsu Saito]] (concept artist)}}

:The Hydro-Pack came with [[Inferno (G1)/toys#ActionMaster|Inferno]], as his Action Master accessory. It had a hose that flipped over his shoulder to attach to his magna-blast gun (a feature unique among Action Master partner accessories) or could transform via spring-loaded mechanism into a [[water laser]] (according to Inferno's [[instructions]]), with a barrel that could be further extended by attaching his magna-blast gun to the very end of it.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1990/Autobot/Inferno/inferno.htm More information on Hydro-Pack at TFU.info]''

==Notes==
*What purpose, if any, the Hydro-Pack serves in pack configuration is unclear. The other three Action Master packs (the [[Flight-Pack]], the [[Heli-pack]] and the [[Turbo-Pack]]) all serve to enhance the mobility of their wearers. It is possible that the Hydro-Pack enables or enhances underwater functioning, though Inferno's [[packaging]] [[bio]] is completely ambiguous on this point.

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Marcia Watkins

2025-04-19T23:02:15Z

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[[File:MarciaWatkinsMASKRevolution.jpg|thumb|right|220px|Fries.]]
'''Marcia Watkins''' is a communication specialist. Well, she was, anyway.

==Fiction==
===2005 IDW continuity===
Marcia Watkins was one of the recruits for [[Project Spectrum]]. She was chosen to pilot a [[Gator]] in the first test of Project Spectrum's vehicular weapons, racing a [[Jackhammer (M.A.S.K.)|Jackhammer]] piloted by [[William Evans]]. The connection between Marcia's mask and the Gator caused her a painful burning sensation, but not for long, as the vehicle soon exploded, killing Marcia. {{storylink|M.A.S.K.: Revolution}}

{{DEFAULTSORT:Watkins, Marcia}}
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Transformers One: Movie Novelization

2025-04-17T23:15:42Z

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'''[[Transformers One (film)|Transformers One]], now in a convenient prose form!'''

{{Comicstory|
|title=''Transformers One''
|image=TransformersOneNovelizationCover.jpg
|caption=
|publisher=[[Simon Spotlight]]
|date=[[August 20]], [[2024]]
|adapted by=[[Ryder Windham]]
|continuity=
|pagecount=144
|story=[[Andrew Barrer]], [[Gabriel Ferrari]]
|screenplay=[[Eric Pearson]], Andrew Barrer, Gabriel Ferrari
|ISBN=ISBN 1665959355<br>ISBN 978-1665959353
}}

==Synopsis==
[[Optimus Prime (One)|Orion Pax]] breaks into the upper levels of [[Iacon Tower]] which houses the city archives for [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]]. In search of information about the [[Matrix of Leadership]], he finds an old message from [[Alpha Trion (One)|Alpha Trion]] detailing the history of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] leading up to the [[Quintesson]] invasion and death of the [[Thirteen|Primes]], but is found by two guards who give chase as he escapes the building. The chase ends when Orion's friend [[Megatron (One)|D-16]] points the guards off in the wrong direction. The two cogless miners returned to the [[Energon mine]]s where they work under [[Elita-1 (One)|Elita-1]] however when the pair disobey Elita-1's orders during a mining incident so they san rescue [[Jazz (One)|Jazz]], [[Darkwing (One)|Darkwing]] reassigns Elita-1 to waste management. Orion and D-16 get into a fistfight with Darkwing until the other miners break it up.

Later the two miners watchs a transmission from [[Sentinel Prime (One)|Sentinel Prime]] following their leader's return from the planet's surface having failed to locate the Matrix. Sentinel announces the [[Iacon 5000]] will take place, and Orion hatches a plan to enter the race with D-16 as a way to demonstrate the worth of miners. Though D-16 isn't keen, Orion tricks him into taking part with the aid of [[jet pack]]s. The pair end up falling short of the finish line despite their efforts, and are taken to the stadium's medical facility where they are visited by Sentinel himself. Sentinel is pleased with their work in inspiring the miners to work harder, and promises them a treat, however after he leaves, Darkwing throws the pair into the lower levels of Cybertron.

Orion and D-16 encounter [[Bumblebee (One)|B-127]], who has been working salvage alone on sublevel 50 for some time. They discover that B-127 has an ancient beacon containing a distress call from Alpha Trion which gives coordinates on the surface of Cybertron and the three of them resolve to reach the surface in the hope the coordinates will lead them to the Matrix. On the way, they stow away on a supply train, resulting in Elita-1 accidentally joining them when she see capturing some intruders to be her way to a promotion. The train takes them to the surface, where they are separated from their ride by a storm of metal dust.

Evading a Quintesson ship, the four of them reach a cave within which they find the remains of the lost Primes. They are able to revive Alpha Trion, who fills them in on what had happened all those cycles ago — Sentinel had betrayed the Primes to the Quintessons and led them into a trap. Though some of the group don't believe it, they emerge from the cave to see Sentinel Prime meeting with the [[Quintesson High Commander]], which is enough to convince everyone. The group resolves to overthrow Sentinel. Trion provides them with conversion cogs from his fallen kin however they're interrupted moments later by an attack by Sentinel's forces, and Trion has to keep the the [[Tracker]]s busy while the quartet escape.

The four ex-miners are next found and captured by the former [[High Guard]] led by [[Starscream (One)|Starscream]], who have been fighting from the shadows since Sentinel's betrayal. D-16 defeats Starscream, taking control of the group shortly before [[Airachnid (One)|Airachnid]] arrives with a force of Trackers to assault their hideout. As a result, D-16 and many of the High Guard are captured and taken away. Orion, Elita-1, B-127 and the remainder of the High Guard "transform and roll out" to Iacon.

==Featured characters==

{{featuredcharacters
|h1=Miners
|c1=
*[[Optimus Prime (One)|Orion Pax]] (1)
*[[Megatron (One)|D-16]] (3)
*[[Elita-1 (One)|Elita-1]] (4)
*[[Jazz (One)|Jazz]] (5)
*[[Bumblebee (One)|B-127]] (10)

|h2=[[High Guard]]
|c2=
*[[Starscream (One)|Starscream]] (13)
*[[Soundwave (One)|Soundwave]] (14)
*[[Shockwave (One)|Shockwave]] (15)

|h3=[[Thirteen|Primes]]
|c3=
*[[Alpha Trion (One)|Alpha Trion]] (11)

|c4=
*[[Guard (One)|Guards]] (2)
*[[Darkwing (One)|Darkwing]] (6)
*[[Sentinel Prime (One)|Sentinel Prime]] (7)
*[[Chromia (One)|Chromia]] (8)
*[[Airachnid (One)|Airachnid]] (9)
*[[Quintesson High Commander]] (12)

}}

==Notes==
*Much like recent "junior novels" for Transformers films such as ''[[Transformers: Bumblebee: The Junior Novel]]'' and ''[[The Search Is On]],'' the entire third act of the film is just... left out. The novelization instead ends on the rather anticlimactic note of Orion Pax ordering the High Guard to roll out, presumably to entice children to go watch the movie in theaters to find out how the story ends.
*As is common with promotional material released around this time, Transformers are referred to as "Transformers robots" or "Transformers bots". While in vehicle mode, they're referred to as "Transformers vehicles".
*Some text in Ancient Autobot can be found decorating the pages:
**"CYBERTRON" is used to be a divider between scenes.
**"ORION PAX" and "OPTIMUS PRIME" are written down the edge of even numbered pages.
**"DSIXTEEN" and "MEGATRON" are written down the edge of odd numbered pages.

===Differences with the movie===
*In general, lines where characters threaten to kill each other are toned down.
*The dialogue prior to the start of the Iacon 5000 tends to generally deviate more from the film.
*Rather than breaking into Iacon Tower via an air vent, Orion ducks past an empty security station and down a corridor. There's an additional sequence where he hides from the two guards after he trips a silent alarm.
*The recording of Alpha Trion that Orion views is longer, mentioning the Quintesson invasion.
*The scanning drone that detects Orion is absent, with the guards instead responding to noises they hear. Likewise the later one that Orion attempts to use to fly while escaping is an old camera drone he grabs off a library shelf.
*The guards don't recognize Orion and he tries to explain that he's searching for information on the Matrix.
*Most of Orion and D-16's expository conversation about how Sentinel is up on the surface searching for the Matrix is absent. The same information was delivered in prose earlier in the book.
*Elita-1's pep talk and her banter with Orion as they reach the mine are left out. Elita-1 has to contact a control room to request permission to start mining.
*It's Jazz who hits the unstable Energon rather than [[Wheeljack (One)|Wheeljack]].
*D-16 doesn't punch Orion after Darkwing takes a swing, instead both miners fighting with Darkwing until the other miners break it up.
*D-16 is later utilizing a punching bag in the barracks while he and Orion talk. The film just has the pair sitting down.
*The running gag of B-127 trying to get the others to call him "BADASSATRON" is completely absent.
*Orion brings up Sentinel Prime while discussing the beacon they found in Steve with D-16, causing B-127 to be impressed they've met Sentinel.
*On the surface, the train is hit by a wave of metal dust or sand, while in the film the terrain itself morphs, causing the train to crash.
*Orion and D-16's brief talk after Elita-1 takes control of the beacon is absent. Much of B-127's chatter from this sequence is absent as well.
*"Transformation cogs" are instead named "conversion cogs".
*D-16's lines as the four miners process Sentinel's betrayal, up until he snaps on Orion, are missing.
*Alpha Trion's line about having given the miners the ability to change the world is missing.
*The narrative follows Orion after he leaves Alpha Trion, meaning Trion's fight with the Trackers and Arachnid is left out.
*The film has the four miners immediately under attack by Trackers after emerging from the cave, whereas the novelization has the Trackers turning up partway through their attempts to transform.
*D-16 has additional dialogue after taking out the Tracker in tank mode, loudly challenging whoever to send more bots for him to offline.
*The scene with Sentinel interrogating and offlining Trion is absent.
*The discussion before the miners are ambushed by the High Guard is very different, with D-16 believing he can take out Sentinel without needing the evidence, Elita-1 trying to break up the argument between him and Orion, and B-127 expressing how impressive he finds the new D-16.
*Following their capture, there's an extra scene where Airachnid finds the location of the ambush and works out where they've been taken.
*Elita refers to the High Guard as "hotheads" rather than "nutjobs".
*Starscream's lines encouraging D-16 to keep punching him are absent, leaving just the line where he pleads with D-16 to stop.
*The tower that houses the archives and the tower which Sentinel has his seat of power are one and the same, named Iacon Tower in the book, while in the film they're different towers.

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User talk:Abates

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== Scale Chart Page Error ==

I added a new official chart to the scale chart page: https://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:TFAOE_GroupScaleChart.jpeg, https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Scale_charts, and followed the formatting precedents that were available, but for some reason editing the page caused the title of the ROTB charts section to become unbolded and unaligned. Do you know how to fix it, because I can’t seem to figure it out.

Nevermind! Cyberlink quickly fixed it and I observed the error that was corrected. [[User:Steampunk671213|Steampunk671213]] ([[User talk:Steampunk671213|talk]]) 11:29, 16 February 2025 (EST)
:Glad it got sorted out! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 14:07, 16 February 2025 (EST)

== New insignia icon ==

Hey, I noticed the TF Prime toyline page is currently using a Decepticon insignia instead of the Star Seeker one for Thundertron's toy and I also discovered that we didn't have a Star Seeker bulletpoint either., so I decided to give it a go making the bulletpoint myself, but I think I may have missed something somewhere in the coding as the image won't display on the [[Template:Bp-a1/doc]] page.

Would you possibly be able to give me a hand?

To make it easier to find, here is the template I made and the file I uploaded:
*[[Template:Bp-ss]]
*[[:File:StarSeekerbp.png]]

Thanks. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 06:48, 4 July 2021 (EDT)
:It needs a line added into the site's stylesheets. I can do that now, no problem. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 06:59, 4 July 2021 (EDT)
::Ah, I see that it works now. Tysm! [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 07:07, 4 July 2021 (EDT)

== Name Change ==

I am currently User:Cosmos1 but would like to have the user name Waverod, as discussed in the Discord server. [[User:Cosmos1|Waverod ✈️]] ([[User talk:Cosmos1|talk]]) 06:16, 19 September 2021 (EDT)

== Are you the same person as Heathbagenjoyer? ==
Umm just gonna write back from here, sorry I didn't know about the one account thing, I'll just use the other account --[[User:That one guy|That one guy]]

== Name Change ==
Hey, can you change my username to User:Boingus? I already changed my signature. Thank you! [[User:Notsoalex|--Boingus]] ([[User talk:Notsoalex|talk]]) 19:56, 13 January 2022 (EST)
:Sure, done! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 21:04, 13 January 2022 (EST)

== JaAm ==

Any particular reason you decided to [https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3ACommon.css&diff=1435866&oldid=1414755 change] the title back? —[[User:Yaxuo|Yaxuo]] ([[User talk:Yaxuo|talk]] <b>•</b> [[Special:Contributions/Yaxuo|contribs]]) 14:21, 19 January 2022 (EST)
:It was with respect to the recent discussion on [[Talk:JaAm]] about how the comic has not aged well and can be interpreted as offensive. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 14:52, 19 January 2022 (EST)

== Transformers 2 treatment ==

[[Talk:Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)#Should this treatment be added to the wiki?]]
{{-}}
I would like to get your opinion on the above. Is it worthy of documentation?
https://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2007/10/transfomers-2-leaked-script.html?m=0
{{-}}
'''"Finally at Michael Bay's forums, Nelson (head admin) posts that the script isn't fan made reminding readers 'It's a treatment...far cry from a shooting script.' "'''
--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 06:49, 24 March 2024 (EDT)
:I guess that would be covered in the same way we're covering the TFTM early draft. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:16, 24 March 2024 (EDT)
::Ok, thanks for answering.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 17:32, 27 March 2024 (EDT)

==Name request change==
Hey, just confirming the name request change from Discord, thanks! :) ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 06:49, 24 July 2024 (EDT))
:And done! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 06:53, 24 July 2024 (EDT)
::Thank you again! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 06:56, 24 July 2024 (EDT))
We are currently reviewing your name change request from Discord. I want the name to be 反射ハーバー(hansya harbor). Thank you for your time. ([[User:勇者シリーズ復活しろ|勇者シリーズ復活しろ]] 02:50, 28 November 2024 (EDT))

==Privacy Policy==
Two weeks ago, I put a comment on our Privacy Policy's talk page. No one responded for the first week, so I put another. There has still been no response, so I think there may not be very many people watching it. I think the current policy definitely needs improvement and also needs to be adopted, so I'm contacting you since you were the last admin to make a comment on the page. If you could please give an opinion on its talk page, I'd greatly appreciate it. [[User:Hilfam|Hilfam]] ([[User talk:Hilfam|talk]]) 17:52, 13 September 2024 (EDT)
:I don't really have anything to add since the last time I commented on it. Other than the intro possibly needing a rewrite to be more po-faced, it's reasonably accurate. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:59, 14 September 2024 (EDT)
::Do I have the authority to edit it directly? I see what you mean by the intro needing a rewrite. [[User:Hilfam|Hilfam]] ([[User talk:Hilfam|talk]]) 13:59, 14 September 2024 (EDT)
:::I would suggest submitting the rewrite on the talk page for feedback, then it can be copied to the page itself later. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 21:54, 14 September 2024 (EDT)

== Insignias for the Thirteen ==

The upcoming AOTP Megatronus figure appears to use his personal insignia as his faction insignia on both the box and toy, so I was wondering if a set of bullet point insignias could be made for the Thirteen Primes since there’s definitely more figures of them to come that’ll use their insignias in place of, say, an Autobot or Decepticon one. (I’d make them, but I’ve got no clue how to do it, so I’m going to you.) - [[User:IGEBM13|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13|talk]]) 23:12, 30 October 2024 (EDT)
:It's generally fairly easy. You'll need to upload some suitably sized insignias and then create some templates along the same line as [[Template:Bp-a1]] - you just need to change the class in the code to be unique. Then once that's done, I or another admin can add the necessary code to the style sheet. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:30, 31 October 2024 (EDT)
::Is there a specific code template or something I’m supposed use? (Still new to the site and learning the code and stuff lol) - [[User:IGEBM13|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13|talk]]) 20:31, 31 October 2024 (EDT)
:::You can pretty much create new bullet point templates just by copying and pasting the code for, say, [[Template:Bp-d1]] into a new template and change the bit that says class="decepticong1" to something like class="megatronus". --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 21:40, 31 October 2024 (EDT)
::::Alr, I’ll give it a shot in a little bit - [[User:IGEBM13|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13|talk]]) 22:37, 31 October 2024 (EDT)
::::Here's one for Prima (I was using him as a test). Assuming I did this right, I should be able to make the others on Sunday.
::::*[[Template:Bp-pr1]]
::::*[[:File:Primabp.jpg]]
:::: - [[User:IGEBM13|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13|talk]]) 11:33, 1 November 2024 (EDT)
:::::That looks good to me. I have added the necessary code into the stylesheets, so it should work like the other bullet point templates. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 17:44, 1 November 2024 (EDT)
::::::And here’s the rest!
::::::*[[Template:Bp-pr2]] and [[:File:Vectorbp.png]]
::::::*[[Template:Bp-pr3]] and [[:File:Trionbp.png]]
::::::*[[Template:Bp-pr4]] and [[:File:Solusbp.png]]
::::::*[[Template:Bp-pr5]] and [[:File:Micronusbp.png]]
::::::*[[Template:Bp-pr6]] and [[:File:Alchemistbp.png]]
::::::*[[Template:Bp-pr7]] and [[:File:Nexusbp.png]]
::::::*[[Template:Bp-pr8]] and [[:File:Onyxbp.png]]
::::::*[[Template:Bp-pr9]] and [[:File:Amalgamousbp.png]]
::::::*[[Template:Bp-pr10]] and [[:File:Quintusbp.png]]
::::::*[[Template:Bp-pr11]] and [[:File:Maximobp.png]]
::::::*[[Template:Bp-pr12]] and [[:File:Megatronusbp.png]]
::::::*[[Template:Bp-pr13]] and [[:File:Thirteenbp.png]]
::::::(Phew, that was a lot lol) - [[User:IGEBM13|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13|talk]]) 23:57, 3 November 2024 (EST)
:::::::I have added them into the stylesheets. Apologies for taking so long! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:56, 8 November 2024 (EST)
::::::::Thanks! - [[User:IGEBM13|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13|talk]]) 07:42, 11 November 2024 (EST)

== File:Estrela-Carrera.jpg ==
Hi, I believe you accidentally deleted the "Estrela-Carrera.jpg" file (which, per the filename, was just an image of the two variants of G1 Estrela Carrera / Cliffjumper that was currently in use on its respective page) a couple of days ago! Is this reversible (and, if not, can I reupload it?), or was there some other issue with this image? Thanks in advance! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 17:15, 17 April 2025 (EDT))
:Thanks, I have restored this file. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 17:38, 17 April 2025 (EDT)
::Cool, good to see it back! Thanks for the quick action :D ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 17:50, 17 April 2025 (EDT))
:::No problem! Sorry about that - I have messaged the user who erroneously marked it for speedydeletion. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:37, 17 April 2025 (EDT)

User talk:Powermetal

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Regarding your edit to the homage page, could you please tell us what you think the Intersectionality cover is homaging? It does look like something familiar, but nobody's been able to come up with anything specific. If you can provide us with that, we're more than happy to put it back in. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 20:58, 15 May 2021 (EDT)

I really appreciate all the image tagging you've been doing, but please make sure you're using those image templates appropriately. Try to find the template for the specific line if it's available, rather than just "toystock", and remember that not every photo needs a stock template. The BW Sonar pic you tagged earlier, for example, is not a stock photograph by Hasbro or Takara, but rather an amateur photograph by the person who found it. In those cases, they should be manually sorted into the proper category, without the use of a template. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 22:21, 13 September 2022 (EDT)

:Please mark your image category edits as minor so we can easily filter them in the recent changes page. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 18:06, 12 October 2022 (EDT)
::Reminder. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 19:13, 13 October 2022 (EDT)

== Tagging ==

Please don't remove "delete" tags from pages unless they're not supposed to be deleted, like you did for those comic cover redirects. Those templates are the only way for admins to keep track of pages that need to be removed. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 19:23, 11 January 2024 (EST)
:I literally told you this once already, and you're doing it again. Stop it. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 15:24, 3 October 2024 (EDT)

==Company categories==
Your removal of employees and contractors from the categories for the companies they worked at doesn't make sense, and certainly wasn't done without prior discussion. Please either provide an explanation first or stop doing it. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 18:20, 4 October 2024 (EDT)

==Stock photo tag==
Please don't add the stock photo template to images that are credited to other users -- those are not stock photos. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 23:10, 24 October 2024 (EDT)

== speedydeletion ==

Please be more careful when marking things for speedydeletion as some of the items you have marked as such were in use. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 17:42, 17 April 2025 (EDT)

User talk:Abates

2025-04-17T21:38:04Z

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File:Estrela-Carrera.jpg

2025-04-17T21:36:11Z

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[[Estrela]]'s two versions of [[Cliffjumper (G1)/toys|Carrera / Cliffjumper]].

Sources: TF-1.com (Yellow ver.) and toyarchive.com (Red ver.)

Chester the Chihuahua

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{{disambig3|Chester}}
[[File:Chester the Chihuahua.jpg|thumb|right|250px|The hardest-working actor in Hollywood.]]

'''Chester the Chihuahua''' is a canine American actor. In addition to being the primary star of two of the ''Transformers'' films, Chester has lit up the screen in movies such as ''Beverly Hills Chihuahua'' (naturally), ''Super 8'', ''Life Is Ruff'', and ''Seven Psychopaths''. In the world of television, he plays Guillermo's dog Paco on ''The Jimmy Kimmel Show'', and has appeared on ''The Young and the Restless'', ''The Sarah Silverman Show'', ''Grey’s Anatomy'', ''Private Practice'', and ''Dexter''. He has also done many, many commercials.

==Roles==
===2007 ''Transformers'' film===
*[[Mojo]]

===''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen''===
*Mojo

==Notes==
*Chester was supplied by [[Performing Animal Troupe]].

==External links==
*[https://www.facebook.com/ChesterTheChihuahua Chester the Chihuahua] on Facebook
*[https://performinganimaltroupe.com/en/dogs/tiny-dogs-under-10-lbs.html?chester Chester's page] on performinganimaltroupe.com
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm5778628/ Chester the Chihuahua] on IMDB

[[Category:DreamWorks]]
[[Category:On-camera actors]]

File:WreckerMayhem-Bp.png

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Combined Wrecker Mayhem insignias for use as a bullet point.
{{insignia}}
[[Category:Bullet point images]]

File:Mayhem-Bp.png

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Mayhem insignia for use as a bullet point.
{{insignia}}
[[Category:Bullet point images]]

File:Mayhem-Bp.png

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Abates: This is in use on a template. Not sure why it has been marked for speedy deletion.