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New Avengers/Transformers

2026-04-23T10:40:17Z

Alientraveller: /* Notes */

[[File:New Avengers Transformers tpb.jpg|thumb|upright=1.3| Most awesome image ever.]]
'''''The New Avengers/Transformers''''' is a crossover miniseries between comic book companies [[IDW Publishing]] and [[Marvel Comics]].

{{chapters|title=''The New Avengers/Transformers'' issues:|content=
* [[Man and Machine, Part One|#1]]
* [[Man and Machine, Part Two|#2]]
* [[Man and Machine, Part Three|#3]]
* [[Man and Machine, Part Four|#4]]
}}

== Overview ==
[[Megatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Megatron]] has recently come to [[Earth]] to put down insubordination of the infiltration team there led by [[Starscream (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Starscream]]. After crippling Starscream and bringing the rest of the team in line, {{storylink|The Transformers: Infiltration|Infiltration}} Megatron reestablishes [[infiltration protocol]] and initiates phase two. {{storylink|Escalation issue 1|Escalation #1}} Phase two involves the destabilization of global politics with the goal of having national powers fight each other to reduce their ability to resist in later stages. Megatron's first course of action is to establish a base in the Eastern European country of [[Latveria]] and attack the neighboring country of [[Symkaria]], knowing the Symkarians would blame the Latverians and likely start a war over the matter. He also steals the [[Psycho-Prism]] from [[Doctor Doom]], which has the effect of increasing hostile tendencies of nearby humans, which would further escalate tensions.

Both the [[Avengers]] and [[Autobot]]s investigate the disturbance...

== Creative team ==
The title was written by [[Stuart Moore]] and illustrated by [[Tyler Kirkham]]. Moore would later write the [[Spotlight: Ramjet|''Spotlight'' issue for Ramjet]], who made his IDW debut in this series.

==Notes==
* The best place to locate this series in the [[2005 IDW continuity]] is during the latter part of [[Escalation issue 1|''Escalation'' #1]], after Megatron is last seen in his Cybertronian tank form (he is in gun form in this series). Megatron had gathered his troops together at that point to secure his leadership and oversee the reestablishment [[infiltration protocol]]. [[Ironhide (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ironhide]] and [[Sunstreaker (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Sunstreaker]] were off driving [[Hunter O'Nion]], [[Verity Carlo]], and [[Jimmy Pink]] home at that part of the story which would account for their absence in this series. ''[[Spotlight: Ramjet]]'', which takes place after this series, begins during [[Escalation issue 2|''Escalation'' #2]].
* In terms of Marvel continuity, this story obviously doesn't take place within the mainstream Marvel Comics universe ("[[wikia:Marvel:Earth-616|Earth-616]]") due to the presence of the Transformers. Still, writer Stuart Moore wrote the series as if it occurred "between the first and second story arcs" of ''New Avengers'' (mid-2005, two years before its real-world publication date).<ref>{{citesocial|quote=It's pre-Civil War; the story is set, in Marvel continuity, between the first and second story arcs of NEW AVENGERS.|link=https://web.archive.org/web/20070927043539/http://comicnewsi.com/article.php?catid=99&itemid=9440%7CStuart|name=Stuart Moore|site=comicnewsi.com|title=Stuart Moore Talks New Avengers/Transformers|year=2007|month=03|day=02}}</ref> However, it's not a perfect fit, as, at that point in time, [[Doctor Doom]] was supposed to be dead.

== Collections ==
* '''''The New Avengers/Transformers''''' ([[January 16]], [[2008]]) ISBN 0785-12790-9 / ISBN 978-0785127901
** Collects ''The New Avengers/Transformers'' issues #1–4.
** Bonus material includes issue cover art (no text).
** Advertisements include ''New Avengers'' Volumes 1–6, and Marvel's heroic collections.
** Trade paperback format.

* '''''[[The Transformers: The IDW Collection Volume Three]]''''' ([[March 2]], [[2011]]) ISBN 978-1600108563
** Collects ''[[The Transformers: Spotlight|Spotlight]]: [[Spotlight: Galvatron|Galvatron]]'', ''[[Spotlight: Blaster|Blaster]]'', ''[[Spotlight: Arcee|Arcee]]'', ''[[Spotlight: Grimlock|Grimlock]]'' & ''[[Spotlight: Wheelie|Wheelie]]'', ''The New Avengers/Transformers'' issues #1–4, and ''[[The Transformers: Devastation|Devastation]]'' issues [[Devastation issue 1|#1]]–[[Devastation issue 6|6]].
** Hardcover format.

<gallery>
File:New Avengers Transformers tpb.jpg|'''''The New Avengers / Transformers''''' – cover art by [[Jim Cheung]], [[Mark Morales]] and [[Justin Ponsor]]
File:IDWCollection3.jpg|'''''The IDW Collection Volume Three''''' – cover art by [[E. J. Su]]
</gallery>

==References==
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[[Category:Marvel Comics]]
[[Category:New Avengers/Transformers issues]]

Masters of the Universe x Transformers

2026-04-14T12:16:09Z

Alientraveller: formatting

[[File:Masters of the Universe x Transformers stock photo.jpg|thumb|300px|''Not quite'' making childhood dreams come true 40 years later...]]

'''''Masters of the Universe × Transformers''''' is a crossover toy line for ''Transformers'' and [[Mattel]]'s ''{{W|Masters of the Universe}}'' franchise.

==Fiction==
* ''[[By the Energon of Grayskull]]''
* ''[[Roll Out! (issue)|Roll Out!]]''

==Toyline==

<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''[[Man-At-Arms|Bumblebee Armor Man-At-Arms]]''' ([[2025]])}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''[[Skeletor|Megatron Armor Skeletor]]''' (2025)}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''[[He-Man|Optimus Prime Armor He-Man]]''' (2025)}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''[[Scare Glow|Starscream Armor Scare Glow]]''' (2025)}}</ul>

==Notes==
* [[Marvel Comics|Marvel UK]]'s editorial prioritized the ''Transformers'' comic because the licensing department had passed on doing a ''He-Man and the Masters of the Universe'' magazine.

{{stub}}

==External links==
*[[wikia:he-man:He-Man_Wiki|Wiki Grayskull: The He-Man and She-Ra Wiki]]

[[Category:Crossover toylines]]
[[Category:Generation 1 toylines]]
[[Category:Masters of the Universe| ]]

Stranger Things

2026-04-14T11:51:20Z

Alientraveller: Changing the lead for the reason I gave for my new caption on Saturday instead

[[File:Stranger Things logo.jpg|thumb|300px|Nobody tell Pennywise we copied his homework.]]

'''''Stranger Things''''' is a [[2016]]–[[2025]] sci-fi/horror television series streaming on [[Netflix]]. It's pretty much a love letter to the '80s and ''[[Demogorgon|Dungeons & Dragons]]''.

==Toys==
===''Collaborative''===
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''[[Code Red]]''' ([[2023]])}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''[[Freakwency]] / [[8-Trax]]''' ([[2026]])}}</ul>

==Notes==
* As a series ''heavily'' inspired by '80s pop culture, it's only natural that ''Stranger Things'' tips its hat to ''Transformers''.
**In the first episode of the third season, "Suzie, Do You Copy?", one of Dustin's toys brought to life is a vintage [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#The Transformers|Ultra Magnus]] figure, which has been slightly modified (by way of tape) to add a set of motorized wheels underneath his robot feet... however, as the third season is set in 1985, this means that Dustin somehow got an Ultra Magnus the year before he was actually released. Oops.
**In season 5 episode 3, "The Turnbow Trap", Derek's bed uses 1984 [[The Transformers (merchandise)#Bedding|''The Transformers'' bedding]]. His [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] pillowcase is used to cover his head later in the episode.
* [[Dark Horse Comics]] holds the comic book license for the series.
* Other properties ''Stranger Things'' has crossed over with include [[LEGO]], ''[[Monopoly]]'', ''[[Fortnite]]'', ''[[Magic: The Gathering]]'', ''[[Minecraft]]'', and ''[[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]]'' (both as a toy line and in a comic released with [[IDW Publishing]]).

==External links==
*[https://www.netflix.com/tudum/stranger-things Official ''Tudum'' page]
*''{{w|Stranger Things}}'' at Wikipedia
*[[fandom:strangerthings:Stranger Things Wiki|''Stranger Things'' Wiki]]
*[https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQuCIM7knu7/ Promotional clip of Freakwency and 8-Trax]

[[Category:Stranger Things| ]]

Masters of the Universe x Transformers

2026-04-14T10:47:34Z

Alientraveller:

[[File:Masters of the Universe x Transformers stock photo.jpg|thumb|300px|''Not quite'' making childhood dreams come true 40 years later...]]

'''''Masters of the Universe × Transformers''''' is a crossover toy line for ''Transformers'' and [[Mattel]]'s ''{{W|Masters of the Universe}}'' franchise.

==Fiction==
* ''[[By the Energon of Grayskull]]''
* ''[[Roll Out! (issue)|Roll Out!]]''

==Toyline==

* '''[[Skeletor|Megatron Armor Skeletor]]''' ([[2025]])
* '''[[Man-At-Arms|Bumblebee Armor Man-At-Arms]]''' (2025)
* '''[[He-Man|Optimus Prime Armor He-Man]]''' (2025)
* '''[[Scare Glow|Starscream Armor Scare Glow]]''' (2025)

==Notes==
* [[Marvel Comics|Marvel UK]]'s editorial prioritized the ''Transformers'' comic because the licensing department had passed on doing a ''He-Man and the Masters of the Universe'' magazine.

{{stub}}

==External links==
*[[wikia:he-man:He-Man_Wiki|The He-Man and She-Ra Wiki]]

[[Category:Crossover toylines]]
[[Category:Generation 1 toylines]]
[[Category:Masters of the Universe| ]]

File:Masters of the Universe x Transformers stock photo.jpg

2026-04-14T10:46:31Z

Alientraveller: Left to right: Masters of the Universe x Transformers Scare Glow, Skeletor, He-Man and Man-At-Arms. {{stock|Masters of the Universe x Transformers|owner=Hasbro/Mattel|year=2025}}

Left to right: [[Masters of the Universe x Transformers]] [[Scare Glow]], [[Skeletor]], [[He-Man]] and [[Man-At-Arms]].

{{stock|[[Masters of the Universe x Transformers]]|owner=[[Hasbro]]/[[Mattel]]|year=2025}}

Masters of the Universe x Transformers

2026-04-14T10:35:47Z

Alientraveller: /* Toyline */

'''''Masters of the Universe × Transformers''''' is a crossover toy line for ''Transformers'' and [[Mattel]]'s ''{{W|Masters of the Universe}}'' franchise.

==Fiction==
* ''[[By the Energon of Grayskull]]''
* ''[[Roll Out! (issue)|Roll Out!]]''

==Toyline==

* '''[[Skeletor|Megatron Armor Skeletor]]''' ([[2025]])
* '''[[Man-At-Arms|Bumblebee Armor Man-At-Arms]]''' (2025)
* '''[[He-Man|Optimus Prime Armor He-Man]]''' (2025)
* '''[[Scare Glow|Starscream Armor Scare Glow]]''' (2025)

==Notes==
* [[Marvel Comics|Marvel UK]]'s editorial prioritized the ''Transformers'' comic because the licensing department had passed on doing a ''He-Man and the Masters of the Universe'' magazine.

{{stub}}

==External links==
*[[wikia:he-man:He-Man_Wiki|The He-Man and She-Ra Wiki]]

[[Category:Crossover toylines]]
[[Category:Generation 1 toylines]]
[[Category:Masters of the Universe| ]]

Masters of the Universe

2026-04-14T10:32:43Z

Alientraveller: Redirected page to Masters of the Universe x Transformers

#REDIRECT[[Masters of the Universe x Transformers]]

Masters of the Universe x Transformers

2026-04-14T10:32:17Z

Alientraveller:

'''''Masters of the Universe × Transformers''''' is a crossover toy line for ''Transformers'' and [[Mattel]]'s ''{{W|Masters of the Universe}}'' franchise.

==Fiction==
* ''[[By the Energon of Grayskull]]''
* ''[[Roll Out! (issue)|Roll Out!]]''

==Toyline==

<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''[[Skeletor|Megatron Armor Skeletor]]''' vs '''[[Man-At-Arms|Bumblebee Armor Man-At-Arms]]''' ([[2025]])}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''[[He-Man|Optimus Prime Armor He-Man]]''' vs '''[[Scare Glow|Starscream Armor Scare Glow]]''' (2025)}}</ul>

==Notes==
* [[Marvel Comics|Marvel UK]]'s editorial prioritized the ''Transformers'' comic because the licensing department had passed on doing a ''He-Man and the Masters of the Universe'' magazine.

{{stub}}

==External links==
*[[wikia:he-man:He-Man_Wiki|The He-Man and She-Ra Wiki]]

[[Category:Crossover toylines]]
[[Category:Generation 1 toylines]]
[[Category:Masters of the Universe| ]]

Masters of the Universe x Transformers

2026-04-14T10:31:43Z

Alientraveller:

'''''Masters of the Universe × Transformers''''' is a crossover toy line for ''Transformers'' and [[Mattel]]'s ''{{W|Masters of the Universe}}'' franchise.

==Fiction==
* ''[[By the Energon of Grayskull]]''
* ''[[Roll Out! (issue)|Roll Out!]]''

==Toyline==

<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''[[Skeletor|Megatron Armor Skeletor]]''' vs '''[[Man-At-Arms|Bumblebee Armor Man-At-Arms]]''' ([[2025]])}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''[[He-Man|Optimus Prime Armor He-Man]]''' vs '''[[Scare Glow|Starscream Armor Scare Glow]]''' (2025)}}</ul>

==Notes==
* [[Marvel Comics|Marvel UK]]'s editorial prioritized the ''Transformers'' comic because the licensing department had passed on doing a ''He-Man and the Masters of the Universe'' magazine.

{{stub}}

==External links==
*[[wikia:he-man:He-Man_Wiki|The He-Man and She-Ra Wiki]]

[[Category:Crossover toylines]]
[[Category:Generation 1 toylines]]
[[Category:Masters of the Universe|Masters of the Universe]]

Masters of the Universe x Transformers

2026-04-14T10:31:08Z

Alientraveller: making a very, very basic start for good folks less busy than me

'''''Masters of the Universe × Transformers''''' is a crossover toy line for ''Transformers'' and [[Mattel]]'s ''{{W|Masters of the Universe}}'' franchise.

==Fiction==
* ''[[By the Energon of Grayskull]]''
* ''[[Roll Out! (issue)|Roll Out!]]''

==Toyline==

<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''[[Skeletor|Megatron Armor Skeletor]]''' vs '''[[Man-At-Arms|Bumblebee Armor Man-At-Arms]]''' ([[2025]])}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''[[He-Man|Optimus Prime Armor He-Man]]''' vs '''[[Scare Glow|Starscream Armor Scare Glow]]''' (2025)}}</ul>

==Notes==
* [[Marvel Comics|Marvel UK]]'s editorial prioritized the ''Transformers'' comic because the licensing department had passed on doing a ''He-Man and the Masters of the Universe'' magazine.

{{stub}}

==External links==
*[[wikia:he-man:He-Man_Wiki|The He-Man and She-Ra Wiki]]

[[Category:Crossover toylines]]
[[Category:Generation 1 toylines]]
[[Category:Masters of the Universe]]

Talk:Liege Maximo

2026-04-14T10:09:08Z

Alientraveller: /* Conceptual History Draft */

Umm.... I dunno but if I recall Unicron is eviller than the leige max, making this guy a little short of ultimate evil.
: Everyone who reads comics knows that there's, at the very least, a few dozen ultimate evils all existing simultaneously. That's why the phrasing doesn't bother me much, since I'm used to such nonsensical hyperbole, but I'll see how I can reword it.--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:24, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

I think an ish in parenthesies on the end of ultimate with a link to unicron might be good, but that's just me.
: Thing is, there's an ultimate evil beyond Unicron. Furman's only ever gotten a chance to hint at it, but it exists. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:49, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
::Is unicron really all that evil? He just embodies the need for destruction, he was created to do just that. I do not think he is inherently evil, I think that others give him a label that doesn't completely adhere to his job. As for the methods that he uses to execute his job, that's another story. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 13:12, 18 September 2010 (EDT)

==Alignment==
Does ''Alignment'' count as official fiction, or is it just over-glorified fanfiction? [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 22:02, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
: It's fanfiction. The Ultimate Guide, written by Furman, reinforces this. It should get a trivia mention at the very least, though. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:10, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

::On the other hand Ichikawa's "The History of Galvatron II" mentions Alignment, and convieniently forgets to mention that it's a Fanfic, Galvatron II's fleet of battleships might be a reference to his Fleet of War-Worlds in Alignment.
:::We're pretty sure it is a reference. That doesn't really change the story's canonical status. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:19, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

:::It mentions alignment- but IIRC it also places it in Japanese g2- meaning cartoon continuity, not comic-continuity. An analogous set of events. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:20, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
::::Galvatron II's bio is entirely just a description of the character from the Marvel Comics and his specific circumstances, even coming with a green Creation Matrix. Laser Magnus' bio is what connects GII to the fleet of warworlds, which are what Magnus comes out of the Matrix to destroy. But this Magnus apparently had the Matrix before and was dead, both which contradict the Marvel stuff. So, yeah, it's a murky area. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:29, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

== Adding from Exiles, could use advice... ==
Just checking. The whole begining of this article is very G1 focused. I would like to add more info on the Aligned version of the Leige here, but as the begining is supposed to be continuity neutral that would necessitate moving the G2 specific stuff down to that fiction section... and I'm not sure what to replace it with. Other than "That Liege Maximo is one bad ancient robot." Everything else I can think to say about him is only specific to G2 OR Aligned but not necissarily both. Thoughts? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:05, 12 October 2011 (EDT)
:"...wait until I've finished Exiles and I'll happily help?" -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:13, 12 October 2011 (EDT)
::The first paragraph of the intro is vaguely continuity-neutral enough. It's only the mention of the Hub and the Liege being the ruler of the Cybertronian Emprie that needs to be moved. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 12:00, 12 October 2011 (EDT)
:::AND the part about Megs and the Cons desending from him. AND The part about being created as the ultimate evil counterforce. That Doesn't leave much there.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 12:44, 12 October 2011 (EDT)::
::::Given the apparent separation of the new Aligned continuity from the previous multiverse, I'm afraid it's starting to look like there may be need to split the Thirteeners articles in two, and create Liege Maximo (Aligned) or something. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 15:55, 12 October 2011 (EDT)
:::::I've felt the same trying to add in conflicting Exiles info to very Multiverse focused pages. I just didn't want to be the one to suggest it.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 16:04, 12 October 2011 (EDT)

Should someone cut and put the image of who is likely Maximo from the One Shall Rise Thirteen pic? If we're putting up the bearded Thirteen as Prime A3, then wouldn't the big, horned bot on the right with what looks like a beehive for the back of his head be Maximo? Just sayin'- [[User:TFfan1|TFfan1]] 6:29 26 october 2011 (EDT)

== IDW Liege Maximo ==

The following two passages:
:The death of Nexus Prime ultimately inspired most of the Thirteen, including Liege Maximo, to leave [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. He resided on another planet, the location of which was later discovered by [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Shockwave]].
-and-
:As with the other Primes, Shockwave sent one of his [[Regenesis]] ores to Maximo's hiding place. {{storylink|The Crucible}}
Seem to have been invalidated by the revelations in {{storylink|Rubicon}}. Most relevant here is that Vigilem and Liege Maximo never founded a colony. I get that this is hard to square with 13 ores seeded by Shockwave, but I'm hesitant to assume ''every'' Prime had a world, given we seem to be getting evidence that's not true.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:07, 29 March 2017 (EDT)
: I'm pretty sure that Shockwave sent the ores to where he ''thought'' they had gone, so there's still some wiggle room. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 23:09, 29 March 2017 (EDT)
:: Poor storytelling coordination aside, I think Grum's right. The easy fix is saying that Shockwave ''thought'' he was right. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 23:29, 29 March 2017 (EDT)

== Scaling back the snark in his intro==
I think the snark in his intro is at "11", which is a lot for a character that is meant to be taken fairly seriously. I'd certainly keep the uncertainty and "is this true?" vibe, being he's the Prime of Lies. Being that his fictional footprint might be increased soon and new people might want to look him up, maybe we tone the snark down? [[User:Nu-Priest|Nu-Priest]] ([[User talk:Nu-Priest|talk]]) 05:44, 21 November 2025 (EST)
: It was previously unsnarked this summer and then immediately ununsnarked. I don't have a firm opinion on it, but if you don't want to reinvent the wheel, you could grab the previous unsnarky version: [https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Liege_Maximo&oldid=1845039] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 08:39, 21 November 2025 (EST)
::Look, the current version's both funny and perfectly accurate. If he does anything in EarthSpark we can de-snark it then. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 13:12, 21 November 2025 (EST)
:::I think there's a happy medium and we haven't hit it. The later parts of the current version skew a bit too far into meta-commentary to me that shades perception of the character. I think it's pretty funny, but if the joke is "Liege Maximo's time to shine hasn't arrived yet", I don't know if that's entirely true and it's very probable it will be made completely untrue soon with his impeding "final boss of a cartoon" status. [[User:Nu-Priest|Nu-Priest]] ([[User talk:Nu-Priest|talk]]) 13:39, 21 November 2025 (EST)
::::Happiness with the current version notwithstanding we have a confirmed release date of December 5 for the EarthSpark finale (that as noted will almost certainly require an overhaul) such that I question the necessity of an intermediate draft with a shelf life of like a week and a half or something. Relatedly, I am now noticing [[Quintus Prime|Quintus's intro]] is long overdue for an EarthSpark update if someone who's been keeping up has a moment. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 15:04, 21 November 2025 (EST)
:::::He’s done something! 🥳 As Walky suggested above, I vote reverting to the June 18 version, it seems up to standards even considering his EarthSpark appearance. [[User:Cylasbreakdown|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown|talk]]) 17:02, 6 December 2025 (EST)

== Conceptual History Draft ==

I know there's been some mentions about this on the Discord, but I thought I'd bring it to the Wiki too just so that it gets enough eyes on it. It was brought up that Liege Maximo could use a conceptual history section at this point, and so I did a rough draft of one that hopefully can get refined/rewritten/edited as needed and then eventually put on the page.

'''[[User:Daytonjhammon/Sandbox#Conceptual_history_for_Liege_Maximo|Liege Maximo Conceptual History Draft]]'''

If anyone wants to take a look at it, leave feedback/make suggestions, go ahead. Thanks!--[[User:Daytonjhammon|Dayton Hammon]] ([[User talk:Daytonjhammon|talk]]) 13:10, 12 April 2026 (EDT)
:Looks pretty good, only thing I'd add is that the ''EarthSpark'' design is also an attempt to hark back to his original, more monstrous and bulky appearance.
:It might be worth bringing up how the IDW 2019 design does that too, but it's such a minor appearance. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] ([[User talk:Alientraveller|talk]]) 06:09, 14 April 2026 (EDT)

User talk:McBaggins

2026-04-14T09:59:37Z

Alientraveller: /* Don't change my new caption without an explanation please */ new section

Why did you undo my edits??? [[User:Tylerwu|Tylerwu]] ([[User talk:Tylerwu|talk]]) 23:31, 20 May 2021 (EDT)
*Because they were incorrect information. [[User:McBaggins|McBaggins]] ([[User talk:McBaggins|talk]]) 23:33, 20 May 2021 (EDT)
Prove me wrong and if I am, correct me. [[User:Tylerwu|Tylerwu]] ([[User talk:Tylerwu|talk]]) 10:14, 21 May 2021 (EDT)
:The image was just a desktop wallpaper for fans to download, it had nothing to do with the toy. The Mainframe note was also not correct, as the blueprint just mentions that the particular area in question is the "Teletraan-1 mainframe" (a computer in other words), it wasn't referring to "Mainframe" the character. I hope that clears that up some. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 10:32, 21 May 2021 (EDT)
Thank you. That was very polite of you. I haven't seen a polite tf fan[[User:Tylerwu|Tylerwu]] ([[User talk:Tylerwu|talk]]) 10:58, 21 May 2021 (EDT)

Do you really consider the self-destruction translucent plastic issue that plagues Studio Series 86 Jazz to be "extraneous info", because I feel the Transformers community deserves to be aware of such production defects so as to be properly informed about what they could consider spending money on. Isn't the whole point of a wiki page to provide useful information, because where else would they turn to first fo such information? Design flaws are not "extraneous info". {{unsigned|Hyoumaru}}
:Actually, I'd argue Unit was in the right. While some of the edits were excessive, a *lot* of the things that were removed were just rambling, unnecessary cruft. At the very least, if it sticks around, it should be rewritten to be more condensed and readable. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 05:05, 2 September 2022 (EDT)

== Quick Question- ==

Why was my edit on "Transform-Ups" reverted? So I did was reword the article a bit to avoid implying that the deadly mode-drilling was a "Minor punishment from the Animated continuity family". If you could explain the problem, that'd be great, as I'm new and still learning how this wiki works.•[[User:ChristalIsMe|ChristalIsMe]] ([[User talk:ChristalIsMe|talk]]) 08:19, 8 September 2022 (EDT)
:The edit was awkwardly placed into the intro blurb, and it needed to have been written as "in-universe", not talking in regards to out of universe continuity families. [[User:McBaggins|McBaggins]] ([[User talk:McBaggins|talk]]) 16:10, 8 September 2022 (EDT)
:: Ah, ok, thanks! I'll keep that in mind.[[User:ChristalIsMe|ChristalIsMe]] ([[User talk:ChristalIsMe|talk]]) 03:41, 9 September 2022 (EDT)

New Question:
I’m not entirely sure what you mean by “fandom-esque” notes. McBaggins (talk I’m not sure how exactly I’m supposed to communicate on a wiki page to another user, so please bear with me, if you are somehow able to see this. I don’t understand how what I write was in factual. Was I also supposed to have included the episodes along with my statements as well? I thought my edits had fit the way how everything else on the wiki page was written pretty well. I understand that the wiki page itself is supposed to be factual, but from what I’ve seen, there was also some opinions and speculation others have also made on the wiki. I don’t understand what I had did that was wrong, since I wasn’t sharing opinions on matters and instead details I had noticed from the show that I don’t think I saw in the previous sections. [[User:Elitaone|ElitaOne]] ([[User talk:Elitaone|talk]]) 20:04, 19 September 2022 (EDT)

Isn't the rule that we can't replace the jokes of other users? Or have my informative edits been too lax? [[User:Kinnikuwarui|Kinnikuwarui]] ([[User talk:Kinnikuwarui|talk]]) 00:47, 23 October 2022 (EDT)
:McBaggins literally undid you replacing an existing caption. Not sure your argument has a leg to stand on. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 11:04, 23 October 2022 (EDT)
::I'm not denying that I replaced a caption. But the caption I replaced was not somebody else's joke. I just want to know what it would take for my edit to have clearance. [[User:Kinnikuwarui|Kinnikuwarui]] ([[User talk:Kinnikuwarui|talk]]) 11:48, 23 October 2022 (EDT)
:::A, not every caption ''needs'' to be a joke, and B, half your edits are adding or editing captions (a ratio that becomes even more caption-skewed if you look at just the last few years), to the point where you've never made a talk page message that wasn't about the captions. Gonna suggest you let this one go. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 12:11, 23 October 2022 (EDT)
::::Fair. I'll oblige and try to contribute more information to the wiki first. [[User:Kinnikuwarui|Kinnikuwarui]] ([[User talk:Kinnikuwarui|talk]]) 13:10, 23 October 2022 (EDT)

==Truly, they were... an IDW Publishing's ''The Transformers''.==

What's the joke? Is that specific very bad phrasing a reference to something? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 08:05, 15 December 2022 (EST)
:https://youtu.be/SJPLnuYNA6A [[User:McBaggins|McBaggins]] ([[User talk:McBaggins|talk]]) 08:08, 15 December 2022 (EST)
::Okay, thanks. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 08:17, 15 December 2022 (EST)

== Editing Captions ==

I understnad we have a longstanding rule of not just editing other editors' image captions. Just leave it alone, unless you want to actually discuss it on the article's talk page. [[User:TransFormersfan1|TransFormersfan1]] ([[User talk:TransFormersfan1|talk]]) 16:20, 16 December 2022 (EST)

== I didn’t mean for my discussion to be a “chat room” ==

I meant like if there was a need to debate about my changes and what not whether or not something should be done. [[User:T9ol-Fun3e|T9ol-Fun3e]] ([[User talk:T9ol-Fun3e|talk]]) 09:48, 10 June 2024 (EDT)

== Don't change my new caption without an explanation please ==

Please see [[Transformers Wiki: Captions]]. --[[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] ([[User talk:Alientraveller|talk]]) 05:59, 14 April 2026 (EDT)

I left you these messages on my talk page ICYMI btw:

:I totally get it if you think it's in bad taste, I did think to myself of another caption that I can't recall now. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] ([[User talk:Alientraveller|talk]]) 16:27, 11 April 2026 (EDT)
::Oh, now I remember, it was "''Harry Potter'' if it was LGBTQ inclusive." Given how my references to [[Richard Ayoade]]'s sympathy for transphobes were nixed though, that would've been even more incendiary. :D [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] ([[User talk:Alientraveller|talk]]) 16:42, 11 April 2026 (EDT)

Stranger Things

2026-04-14T09:57:46Z

Alientraveller: Hey, Transformers Wiki:Captions says this caption is my reward for my work here.

[[Image:Stranger Things logo.jpg|thumb|300px|Single-handedly increasing Kate Bush streams by 86 percent since 2022.]]

'''''Stranger Things''''' is a [[2016]]–[[2025]] sci-fi/horror television series streaming on [[Netflix]]. It's '80s and ''[[Demogorgon|Dungeons & Dragons]]'' nostalgia bait, pretty much.

==Toys==
===''Collaborative''===
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''[[Code Red]]''' ([[2023]])}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''[[Freakwency]] / [[8-Trax]]''' ([[2026]])}}</ul>

==Notes==
* As a series ''heavily'' inspired by '80s pop culture, it's only natural that ''Stranger Things'' tips its hat to ''Transformers''.
**In the first episode of the third season, "Suzie, Do You Copy?", one of Dustin's toys brought to life is a vintage [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#The Transformers|Ultra Magnus]] figure, which has been slightly modified (by way of tape) to add a set of motorized wheels underneath his robot feet... however, as the third season is set in 1985, this means that Dustin somehow got an Ultra Magnus the year before he was actually released. Oops.
**In season 5 episode 3, "The Turnbow Trap", Derek's bed uses 1984 [[The Transformers (merchandise)#Bedding|''The Transformers'' bedding]]. His [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] pillowcase is used to cover his head later in the episode.
* [[Dark Horse Comics]] holds the comic book license for the series.
* Other properties ''Stranger Things'' has crossed over with include [[LEGO]], ''[[Monopoly]]'', ''[[Fortnite]]'', ''[[Magic: The Gathering]]'', ''[[Minecraft]]'', and ''[[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]]'' (both as a toy line and in a comic released with [[IDW Publishing]]).

==External links==
*[https://www.netflix.com/tudum/stranger-things Official ''Tudum'' page]
*''{{w|Stranger Things}}'' at Wikipedia
*[[fandom:strangerthings:Stranger Things Wiki|''Stranger Things'' Wiki]]
*[https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQuCIM7knu7/ Promotional clip of Freakwency and 8-Trax]

[[Category:Stranger Things| ]]

Doctor Who

2026-04-11T22:23:54Z

Alientraveller: thought about putting this in the in-universe section, but better to be safe

'''''Doctor Who''''' is a [[BBC]] [[television]] show featuring [[time travel]]. It might, just maybe, have something to do with the [[Doctor]].

==Fiction==
===Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics===
After being affected by the interferences of [[Purnel's Auto-Reverse Defence|PARD]], [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]]'s errant video scanner picked up a snippet of a ''Doctor Who'' episode, with a mention of the Doctor's enemies, the [[Dalek]]s, and their "Exterminate" battle-cry. {{storylink|To a Power Unknown!}}

===2005 IDW continuity===
[[Hunter O'Nion]] told [[Ratchet (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ratchet]] that he had plenty of TV shows to catch up on, including ''Doctor Who''. {{storylink|Our Steps Will Always Rhyme}}

===Ask Vector Prime===
[[Vector Prime]] enjoyed ''Doctor Who'', despite the show depicting time travel inaccurately. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}

===''Bumblebee'' film===
[[Memo]] had a pair of ''Doctor Who'' posters in his room. {{storylink|Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee}}

==Notes==
[[File:Tom Baker Doctor Who still used in Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|200px|upright|One of the stills of Tom Baker as the Doctor used in ''Bumblebee'']]

* Various [[Marvel Comics|Marvel UK]] ''Transformers'' creators have written for ''Doctor Who Magazine'', itself a Marvel UK title:
** [[Simon Furman]] wrote several stories at the same time he was writing for the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel ''Transformers'' comic]]. This included the first crossover between [[Death's Head (G1)|Death's Head]] and the Doctor, and a Death's Head story featuring ''DWM'' character Keepsake.
** [[Dan Abnett]] wrote a number of ''Magazine'' strips in the late 80s and early 90s, as well as ''The Incomplete Death's Head''.
** [[Steve Parkhouse]] and [[John Ridgway]] are famous in ''Who'' fandom for their work on the ''Magazine'', which included a long run of Sixth Doctor strips. Sleepy [[Stansham]] is not too far removed from Stockbridge, a sleepy village from Parkhouse's strips.
** [[Mike Collins]] has a lengthy, still-going association with the strip.
* The [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|UK Marvel Generation 1 comic]] featured [[Octus (G1)|Octus]], who has a [[Dalek]] alt-mode, and the [[Ghost Stories|2017 ''Transformers'' annual]] has a generic Transformer based on the character {{w|K9 (Doctor Who)|K9}}.
* The character [[Natasha Pyraniac]] from the ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' adventure [[Time-Quake]] seems to be based on / influenced by one of the Doctor's foes, {{w|The Rani (Doctor Who)|The Rani}}.
* Other ''Doctor Who'' references in ''Transformers'' include [[Skaro]], [[Trenzalore]], the [[sonic screwdriver]], and [[Verronian Warp Star]]s.
* The Ask Vector Prime [[:File:AskVectorPrimeLogo.jpg|logo]] is a parody of the ''Doctor Who'' [https://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/features/galleries/gallery_new_logo_wallpaper logo] used from 2010 to 2014.
* In a 2013 episode of ''Doctor Who'', "{{w|The Crimson Horror}}," the character Clara Oswald is shown to have a [[Galvatron (G1)/toys#The Transformers|G1 Galvatron]] figure.
* Certain episodes of the Generation 1 cartoon feature sound effects taken straight from ''Doctor Who'', such as the sound of the TARDIS dematerializing.

==External links==
* [[tardis:Doctor Who Wiki|Tardis Wiki]], the ''Doctor Who'' wiki
* ''{{w|Doctor Who}}'' at Wikipedia

[[Category:Bumblebee]]
[[Category:Real-world cultural references]]
[[Category:Television programs]]

File:Tom Baker Doctor Who still used in Bumblebee.jpg

2026-04-11T22:21:46Z

Alientraveller:

An image of Tom Baker as the Doctor in the 1974-75 ''[[Doctor Who]]'' serial "Robot", used in ''[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]''.

{{fairuse}}

[[Category:Actor images]]

File:Tom Baker Doctor Who still used in Bumblebee.jpg

2026-04-11T22:21:22Z

Alientraveller: An image of Tom Baker as the Doctor in the 1974-75 ''Doctor Who'' serial "Robot", used in ''Bumblebee''. {{fairuse}} Category:Actor images

An image of Tom Baker as the Doctor in the 1974-75 ''Doctor Who'' serial "Robot", used in ''[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]''.

{{fairuse}}

[[Category:Actor images]]

Doctor Who

2026-04-11T22:01:50Z

Alientraveller: /* Bumblebee film */

'''''Doctor Who''''' is a [[BBC]] [[television]] show featuring [[time travel]]. It might, just maybe, have something to do with the [[Doctor]].

==Fiction==
===Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics===
After being affected by the interferences of [[Purnel's Auto-Reverse Defence|PARD]], [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]]'s errant video scanner picked up a snippet of a ''Doctor Who'' episode, with a mention of the Doctor's enemies, the [[Dalek]]s, and their "Exterminate" battle-cry. {{storylink|To a Power Unknown!}}

===2005 IDW continuity===
[[Hunter O'Nion]] told [[Ratchet (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ratchet]] that he had plenty of TV shows to catch up on, including ''Doctor Who''. {{storylink|Our Steps Will Always Rhyme}}

===Ask Vector Prime===
[[Vector Prime]] enjoyed ''Doctor Who'', despite the show depicting time travel inaccurately. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}

===''Bumblebee'' film===
[[Memo]] had a pair of ''Doctor Who'' posters in his room. {{storylink|Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee}}

==Notes==
* Various [[Marvel Comics|Marvel UK]] ''Transformers'' creators have written for ''Doctor Who Magazine'', itself a Marvel UK title:
** [[Simon Furman]] wrote several stories at the same time he was writing for the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel ''Transformers'' comic]]. This included the first crossover between [[Death's Head (G1)|Death's Head]] and the Doctor, and a Death's Head story featuring ''DWM'' character Keepsake.
** [[Dan Abnett]] wrote a number of ''Magazine'' strips in the late 80s and early 90s, as well as ''The Incomplete Death's Head''.
** [[Steve Parkhouse]] and [[John Ridgway]] are famous in ''Who'' fandom for their work on the ''Magazine'', which included a long run of Sixth Doctor strips. Sleepy [[Stansham]] is not too far removed from Stockbridge, a sleepy village from Parkhouse's strips.
** [[Mike Collins]] has a lengthy, still-going association with the strip.
* The [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|UK Marvel Generation 1 comic]] featured [[Octus (G1)|Octus]], who has a [[Dalek]] alt-mode, and the [[Ghost Stories|2017 ''Transformers'' annual]] has a generic Transformer based on the character {{w|K9 (Doctor Who)|K9}}.
* The character [[Natasha Pyraniac]] from the ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' adventure [[Time-Quake]] seems to be based on / influenced by one of the Doctor's foes, {{w|The Rani (Doctor Who)|The Rani}}.
* Other ''Doctor Who'' references in ''Transformers'' include [[Skaro]], [[Trenzalore]], the [[sonic screwdriver]], and [[Verronian Warp Star]]s.
* The Ask Vector Prime [[:File:AskVectorPrimeLogo.jpg|logo]] is a parody of the ''Doctor Who'' [https://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/features/galleries/gallery_new_logo_wallpaper logo] used from 2010 to 2014.
* In a 2013 episode of ''Doctor Who'', "{{w|The Crimson Horror}}," the character Clara Oswald is shown to have a [[Galvatron (G1)/toys#The Transformers|G1 Galvatron]] figure.
* Certain episodes of the Generation 1 cartoon feature sound effects taken straight from Doctor Who, such as the sound of the TARDIS dematerializing.

==External links==
* [[tardis:Doctor Who Wiki|Tardis Wiki]], the ''Doctor Who'' wiki
* ''{{w|Doctor Who}}'' at Wikipedia

[[Category:Bumblebee]]
[[Category:Real-world cultural references]]
[[Category:Television programs]]

Magic: The Gathering

2026-04-11T21:29:15Z

Alientraveller: /* Notes */ crossovers

[[File:Magic the gathering logo.png|right]]
'''''Magic: The Gathering''''' is a trading card game created in [[1993]] by [[mtg:Richard Garfield|Richard Garfield,]] [https://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=74250 Ph.D] for [[Wizards of the Coast]]. Players take on the role of [[matg:Planeswalker|Planeswalker]]s, powerful beings who can travel the [[multiverse]] at will, and do battle with rivals by casting spells, manifesting [[magic]]al artifacts and enchantments, and summoning minions — and even other Planeswalkers — to do their bidding.

In 2017, Wizards of the Coast began experimenting with the concept of creating ''Magic'' cards depicting characters from outside the world of the game's story, beginning with a set of promo cards released at [[HasCon 2017]] based on other [[Hasbro]] properties.<ref>Okay, so TECHNICALLY they'd previously done so with the ''[[mtg:Arabian Nights|Arabian Nights]]'' expansion, based on a {{w|One Thousand and One Nights|classical work of literature}}, and ''[[mtg:Portal Three Kingdoms|Portal: Three Kingdoms]]'', based on {{w|Three Kingdoms|real-world Chinese history}} — but you know what we mean. Don't get us started on [[mtg:Robot Chicken|Robot Chicken]] either.''</ref> Starting in 2021, this became ''Magic: The Gathering Universes Beyond'', an expansive series of ''Magic'' cards based on other IP, including ''The Walking Dead'', ''Warhammer 40,000'', ''[[Fortnite]]'' and ''The Lord of the Rings''. ''Universes Beyond'' cards have been made available through limited-time [[mtg:Secret Lair|online "drops"]], [[mtg:Preconstructed theme deck|pre-built decks]], and as pack-ins with existing [[mtg:Booster pack|booster packs]].

==Gameplay==
''Magic: The Gathering'' is a collectable card game in which players build decks of cards and use them to battle each other; the primary goal is to reduce the opponent's '''[[mtg:Life|life total]]''', which usually starts at 20, to zero. Players will draw a random hand of seven cards from their decks (known as "libraries") and play them to achieve victory, drawing new cards at a rate of one per turn.

===Mana and color===
[[File:MTG-Megatron.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.2|Megatron's colors are '''red''' (aggression), '''white''' (order), and '''black''' (power). "[[:File:MegatronG2Hero Bio&TechSpecs.jpg|Peace through tyranny]]", if you will.]]
Perhaps ''Magic: The Gathering''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> most iconic attribute is the '''[[mtg:Color|color wheel]]''', or "color pie". Magic cards are cast using '''[[mtg:Mana|mana]]''', which is divided into five colors, each representing a different philosophy and form of gameplay, while usually representing the values of the creatures in those colors.
* '''[[mtg:White|White]]''' (W) seeks peace through structure, and represents civilization, morality, and order (though not necessarily good). It lays down the law to restrict what its foes can do, and uses defensive tactics and creatures that work together to become stronger, while being able to destroy everything if needs be.
* '''[[mtg:Blue|Blue]]''' (U) seeks perfection through knowledge, and represents logic, caution, and deceit. It likes to make use of trickery and manipulation by drawing extra cards, countering opponents' spells, and evading enemy blockers.
* '''[[mtg:Black|Black]]''' (B) seeks power through opportunity, and represents death, free will, and self-interest (though not necessarily evil). It's willing to pay any price to win, liberally spending life and sacrificing minions to gain the advantage, as well as directly destroying enemy creatures.
* '''[[mtg:Red|Red]]''' (R) seeks freedom through action, and represents emotion, chaos, and destruction. It prefers immediate solutions to problems, using aggressive tactics and direct damage to deal with its foes, while having riskier ways to obtain new cards.
* '''[[mtg:Green|Green]]''' (G) seeks growth through acceptance, represents instinct, connection, and nature. It makes use of powerful creatures and effects that help them grow even stronger to trample enemies into submission, including increasing the amount of mana and resources it can use.
Each color has its own strengths and weaknesses, the latter of which can be mitigated by combining multiple colors into a single deck; however, the more colors that are used, the harder it is for a player to have the correct types and amount of mana to cast their spells, making for a tactical trade-off.

===''Magic'' cards===
[[File:MTG-Arcee.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.2|Arcee has the supertype '''legendary''', the types '''artifact''' and '''creature''', and the creature type '''Robot'''; her reverse face has the supertype '''legendary''', the type '''artifact''' and the artifact type '''Vehicle'''.]]
''Magic'' divides its cards into multiple different '''[[mtg:Card type|card types]]'''. '''[[mtg:Instant|Instant]]''' and '''[[mtg:Sorcery|sorcery]]''' cards are used to create one-time effects, while other cards, known as '''[[mtg:Permanent|permanents]]''', remain in play until they are removed. Permanent card types include '''[[mtg:Land|lands]]''', representing locations across ''Magic''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> multiverse, which produce mana to cast other cards with and can be played at a rate of one per turn; '''[[mtg:Artifact|artifacts]]''', representing magical or mundane objects, which can typically be activated to produce effects; '''[[mtg:Enchantment|enchantments]]''', representing lingering magical effects, which usually provide an ongoing effect to the game, and '''[[mtg:Creature|creatures]]''', which can be used to attack opponents and block incoming attacks. Each creature has a '''power''', representing the damage they can deal each turn, and a '''toughness''', representing the damage they can take each turn.

Permanent types can be combined, most notably in the form of '''[[mtg:Artifact creature|artifact creatures]]''' (representing inorganic creatures and mechanical constructs) and '''[[mtg:Enchantment creature|enchantment creatures]]''' (representing inherently-magical creatures and spirits); these follow the rules for creatures, but can be affected by abilities and effects that target artifacts and enchantments, respectively.

Cards can also have '''[[mtg:Subtype|subtypes]]'''. Creature types can represent species (such as [[Human]], [[Zombie]] and [[Tlalakan (species)|Merfolk]]) or roles (such as [[Sideswipe (G1)|Warrior]], [[Hound (G1)|Scout]] and [[Mara-Al-Utha|Wizard]]). Other permanents can have subtypes that define mechanics of the cards; for instance, the artifact type '''[[mtg:Vehicle|Vehicle]]''' is used on cards that can become creatures under certain situations, typically when "crewed" by other creatures with a certain total power. '''[[mtg:Supertype|Supertypes]]''' can be applied to cards of any type; the most common is '''[[mtg:Legendary|Legendary]]''', which prevents players from controlling more than one permanent of that name, and allows them to be used as a "commander" in the popular "[[mtg:Commander (format)|Commander]]" format.
While most cards have the same card back, unchanged since ''Magic''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> debut in 1993, certain '''[[mtg:Double-faced card|double-faced cards]]''' (DFCs) have two playable sides, often representing two states of the same creature or interlinked magical effects. Some of these cards can change which side is in use once they've already been played, via the '''[[mtg:Transform|Transform]]''' mechanic.

Lastly, there are '''[[mtg:Token|tokens]]''', representing permanents that aren't part of their owner's deck; instead, they are created by other cards. Tokens act the same way as other permanents, but if they are removed from the battlefield (such as being returned to their owner's hand or sent to the [[mtg:Graveyard|graveyard]]), they cease to exist.
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==''Magic'' and ''Transformers''==
===[[HasCon 2017]]===
[[File:MTG-Grimlock.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|Me Grimlock tribal commander!]]
The first ''Transformers''-themed ''Magic'' card was a double-faced [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] card included in the [[HasCon 2017]] ''Magic'' promo set, along with fellow [[Hasbro]]-themed cards "{{w|Nerf|Nerf War}}" and "{{w|Dungeons and Dragons|Sword of Dungeons and Dragons}}". As a [[mtg:Acorn|silver-bordered card]], Grimlock is not legal in officially-sanctioned events and formats but is fine for casual play, and as such gets a bit silly with its rules; "Grimlock, Dinobot Leader" can become "Grimlock, Ferocious King" by "[[Transformation|converting]] a ''Transformers'' toy you have to its other mode". Both sides of Grimlock are Legendary Artifact Creatures, with the front face using the newly-introduced "Autobot" creature type, and the back using the pre-existing "Dinosaur" creature type.

Notably, Grimlock "becomes" his other form rather than using the existing "[[mtg:Transform|transform]]" keyword, per [[Transformation#"Transform" as a verb|ongoing Hasbro efforts]] to protect their [[trademark]].

* [[Grimlock (G1)/toys#Magic: The Gathering|Grimlock, Dinobot Leader / Grimlock, Ferocious King]] (Red/Green/White)
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===Heroes of the Realm===
[[File:MTG-Optimus-Inspiring-Leader.jpg|thumb|upright=2|"Autobots, turn permanent to other face and tap out!"]]
Part of the 2018 ''[[mtg:Heroes of the Realm|Heroes of the Realm]]'' series of commemorative cards, made by Wizards of the Coast for their employees as rewards for work on specific projects or teams,<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WNBRWoHq9E Gavin Verhey from Wizards of the Coast explains Heroes of the Realm]</ref> the "Optimus Prime, Inspiring Leader" card was given to the team behind the [[Transformers Trading Card Game]].

Uniquely, Optimus Prime uses the "[[mtg:Double-faced card#Triple-faced cards|triple-faced card]]" technology used for [[combiner]]s and [[Triple Changer|triple changers]] in the ''Transformers Trading Card Game'', taking the form of a double-sized card folded in half. While his front face is a ''Magic'' card, his back face and oversized, "unbelievably shiny" third face are ''Transformers Trading Card Game'' cards, allowing him to be used in both games. Rather than a normal ''Magic'' type line, Optimus's ''Magic'' face refers to him as "Autobot Character - Bot Mode", a reference to how cards are designated in the ''Transformers Trading Card Game''; however, [[Drew Nolosco]], Global Brand Manager for the Transformers Trading Card Game, clarified that he is indeed a legendary creature.<ref name="heroes">[https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/e5ovx5/comment/f9ladsy/ Comment by u/Wizards_Drew] on [https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/ r/magicTCG] on Reddit</ref>

Because of his unique printing, "Optimus Prime, Inspiring Leader" doesn't function as a double-faced card; instead, his [[alternate mode]] is represented by the ability to temporarily change subtype to "Construct" and gain increased power and toughness, while [[Roll out|granting other creatures]] the "[[mtg:Trample|trample]]" ability. However, he also has the ability to "Turn target permanent you control to its other face"...though he isn't able to use that ability on ''himself''.<ref name="heroes"/>

As with all ''Heroes of the Realm'' cards, "Optimus Prime, Inspiring Leader" is not legal to play in any real format;<ref>[https://twitter.com/sheldonmenery/status/1203371614668296194 Outside of a unlisted rule for the Commander format that the original recipient of a ''Heroes of the Realm'' card is allowed to use it.]</ref> the cards are novelties designed to be read, rather than played<ref name="heroes"/><ref>{{citesocial|quote=There’s no plans to release the Heroes of the Realm. The cards aren’t designed to be played. They’re designed to be read.|link=https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/189543247703/hi-mark-i-have-2-questions-1-what-are-the|name=Mark Rosewater|site=Tumblr|year=2019|month=12|day=07|(defunct=)}}</ref>, and similar to "Grimlock, Dinobot Leader", actually using this card means players must agree on any rule intricacies they come upon themselves.

* [[Optimus Prime (G1)/merchandise#Magic: The Gathering|Optimus Prime, Inspiring Leader]] (Red/White)
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===Transformers===
[[File:MTG-Goldbug.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|Ironically, not actually a [[mtg:Scout|Scout]]. Or an [[mtg:Ally|Ally]], for that matter.]]
Announced at [[Hasbro Pulse Con 2022]] as part of the dedicated ''[[mtg:Universes Beyond|Universes Beyond]]'' series of cards that brings other IPs into the ''Magic: The Gathering'' game, ''[[mtg:Transformers|Transformers]]'' (expansion code BOT) is the first ''Universes Beyond'' set to be available in booster packs for a premier ''Magic'' set; ''Transformers'' cards are have a roughly 12% chance of being found in packs of ''[[mtg:The Brothers' War|The Brothers' War]]'' cards. Unlike previous ''Transformers''-themed cards, the ''Universes Beyond'' cards are legal for play in "Eternal" formats, such as [[mtg:Commander (format)|Commander]], [[mtg:Legacy|Legacy]], and [[mtg:Vintage|Vintage]].<ref>[https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/transformers-arrives-brothers-war-2022-10-06 TRANSFORMERS Arrives with The Brothers' War | MAGIC: THE GATHERING]</ref>

''Transformers'' consists of fifteen double-faced cards, each of which is a Legendary Artifact Creature on the front and a Legendary Artifact with the Vehicle subtype on the back (with the exception of [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] and [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]], who lack the Vehicle artifact type for [[Non-vehicle non-beast alternate modes|obvious reasons]]). It also includes two Artifact Creature Tokens representing [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] and [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], created by ''Soundwave, Sonic Spy / Soundwave, Superior Captain''. Rather than "Autobot", the ''Universes Beyond'' cards use the more generic "[[mtg:Robot|Robot]]" subtype, introduced in the ''[[mtg:Unfinity|Unfinity]]'' set the previous month.

''Transformers'' introduces the mechanics '''[[More than Meets the Eye (disambiguation)|More Than Meets the Eye]]''', which allows a double-faced card to be cast with its back face up, and '''[[Living metal|Living Metal]]''', an alternative to the "Crew" mechanic that allows vehicles to become artifact creatures on their user's turn. It also includes '''Convert''', a renamed version of the Transform mechanic, for [[Transformation#"Transform" as a verb|legal reasons]] yet again. However, anything in ''Magic'' that cares about transforming things treats "Convert" as the same thing as "Transform".<ref>[https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/the-brothers-war-release-notes ''The Brother's War'' Release Notes; also containing the release notes for ''Universes Beyond Transformers'']</ref>.

Each ''Transformers'' card is available in two variants: one with art inspired by the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]] and one based on ''[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]'', with the exception of "Arcee, Sharpshooter / Arcee, Acrobatic Coupe" and the Ravage and Laserbeak creature tokens, which only have Generation 1 versions available. The color alignments, names and mechanics remain the same regardless of if the character is their original or ''Shattered Glass'' incarnation, with unfortunate side effects such as that the art of ''Shattered Glass'' [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]] is still labeled as a "hero", while being depicted about to execute a helpless Decepticon. All card art for the ''Transformers'' cards was provided by [[Volta|Volta Creation]], with art direction by [[Sara Pitre-Durocher]].<ref>{{citesocial|quote=Through my job at Volta I had the pleasure of Art Directing/creating card art for MtG's Transformers cards!|link=https://twitter.com/SaraLePew/status/1587183152312762369|name=Sara Pitre-Durocher|site=Twitter|year=2022|month=10|day=31|(defunct=)}}</ref>

[[File:MTG-SG-Ratchet.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|Introducing newcomers to the sacred ''Magic'' art of debating whether White can be an evil color ''ad nauseam''.]]
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====''Generation 1''====
* [[Prowl (G1)/toys#Magic: The Gathering|Prowl, Stoic Strategist / Prowl, Pursuit Vehicle]] (White)
* [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Magic: The Gathering|Ratchet, Field Medic / Ratchet, Rescue Racer]] (White)
* [[Jetfire (G1)/toys#Magic: The Gathering|Jetfire, Ingenious Scientist / Jetfire, Air Guardian]] (Blue)
* [[Blitzwing (G1)/toys#Magic: The Gathering|Blitzwing, Cruel Tormentor / Blitzwing, Adaptive Assailant]] (Black)
* [[Starscream (G1)/merchandise#Magic: The Gathering|Starscream, Power Hungry / Starscream, Seeker Leader]] (Black)
* [[Slicer (G1)#Magic: The Gathering|Slicer, Hired Muscle / Slicer, High-Speed Antagonist]] (Red)
* [[Arcee (G1)/toys#Magic: The Gathering|Arcee, Sharpshooter / Arcee, Acrobatic Coupe]] (Red/White)
* [[Blaster (G1)/toys#Magic: The Gathering|Blaster, Combat DJ / Blaster, Morale Booster]] (Red/Green)
* [[Cyclonus (G1)/toys#Magic: The Gathering|Cyclonus, the Saboteur / Cyclonus, Cybertronian Fighter]] (Blue/Black)
* [[Flamewar (G1)#Magic: The Gathering|Flamewar, Brash Veteran / Flamewar, Streetwise Operative]] (Black/Red)
* [[Bumblebee (G1)/merchandise#Magic: The Gathering|Goldbug, Humanity's Ally / Goldbug, Scrappy Scout]] (White/Blue)
* [[Megatron (G1)/merchandise#Magic: The Gathering|Megatron, Tyrant / Megatron, Destructive Force]] (Red/White/Black)
* [[Optimus Prime (G1)/merchandise#Magic: The Gathering|Optimus Prime, Hero / Optimus Prime, Autobot Leader]] (Blue/Red/White)
* [[Soundwave (G1)/merchandise#Magic: The Gathering|Soundwave, Sonic Spy / Soundwave, Superior Captain]] (White/Blue/Black)
** [[Laserbeak (G1)/toys#Magic: The Gathering|Laserbeak]] (Blue creature token)
** [[Ravage (G1)/toys#Magic: The Gathering|Ravage]] (Black creature token)
* [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/merchandise#Magic: The Gathering|Ultra Magnus, Tactician / Ultra Magnus, Armored Carrier]] (Red/Green/White)

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====''Shattered Glass'' variants ====
* [[Prowl (SG)#Magic: The Gathering|Prowl, Stoic Strategist / Prowl, Pursuit Vehicle]] (White)
* [[Ratchet (SG)#Magic: The Gathering|Ratchet, Field Medic / Ratchet, Rescue Racer]] (White)
* [[Jetfire (SG)#Magic: The Gathering|Jetfire, Ingenious Scientist / Jetfire, Air Guardian]] (Blue)
* [[Blitzwing (SG)#Magic: The Gathering|Blitzwing, Cruel Tormentor / Blitzwing, Adaptive Assailant]] (Black)
* [[Starscream (SG)#Magic: The Gathering|Starscream, Power Hungry / Starscream, Seeker Leader]] (Black)
* [[Wheeljack (SG)#Magic: The Gathering|Slicer, Hired Muscle / Slicer, High-Speed Antagonist]] (Red)
* [[Blaster (SG)#Magic: The Gathering|Blaster, Combat DJ / Blaster, Morale Booster]] (Red/Green)
* [[Cyclonus (SG)#Magic: The Gathering|Cyclonus, the Saboteur / Cyclonus, Cybertronian Fighter]] (Blue/Black)
* [[Flamewar (SG)#Magic: The Gathering|Flamewar, Brash Veteran / Flamewar, Streetwise Operative]] (Black/Red)
* [[Goldbug (SG)#Magic: The Gathering|Goldbug, Humanity's Ally / Goldbug, Scrappy Scout]] (White/Blue)
* [[Megatron (SG)#Magic: The Gathering|Megatron, Tyrant / Megatron, Destructive Force]] (Red/White/Black)
* [[Optimus Prime (SG)#Magic: The Gathering|Optimus Prime, Hero / Optimus Prime, Autobot Leader]] (Blue/Red/White)
* [[Soundwave (SG)#Magic: The Gathering|Soundwave, Sonic Spy / Soundwave, Superior Captain]] (White/Blue/Black)
* [[Ultra Magnus (SG)#Magic: The Gathering|Ultra Magnus, Tactician / Ultra Magnus, Armored Carrier]] (Red/Green/White)
 
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===Secret Lair: Transformers===
[[File:MTG-SLD-Megatron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|A [[mtg:Phyrexian|Phyrexian]]? I'd have thought you'd look... [[Technorganic|fleshier]].]]
Part of the [[mtg:Secret Lair|Secret Lair Drop Series]] of premium card reissues, the ''Transformers'' "[[mtg:List of Magic slang#Superdrop|superdrop]]" comprises three sets of "reskinned" ''Magic'' cards with new, Transformers-themed art (and in the case of the "Optimus Prime vs Megatron" set, new names). Unlike previous ''Transformers'' crossover cards, which exclusively consisted of artifact creatures, the ''Secret Lair'' sets use a wider variety of card types.

The "Optimus Prime vs Megatron" drop consists of two reskinned artifact creatures as [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], plus a reskinned artifact as the [[AllSpark]]; all three cards are double-sided, providing two different pieces of art, though mechanically they are considered single-faced cards. The "Roll Out or Rise Up" drop contains a variety of instant, sorcery and enchantment cards, each with art portraying an iconic scene from ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'', albeit using the designs of [[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|newer toys]] in place of the original character models.

Lastly, the "One Shall Stand, One Shall Fall" drop consists of "[[mtg:Full-art|full-art]]" versions of the [[mtg:Basic land|five basic land cards]], each depicting a different locale on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].<ref>[https://www.polygon.com/23486638/magic-the-gathering-transformers-secret-lair-reveal Take a first look at Magic: The Gathering’s reskinned Secret Lair Transformers cards - Polygon]</ref> All three drops additionally contained the bonus card "[[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]", a reskinned version of the land [https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/204/command-tower Command Tower] depicting [[Decepticon Headquarters (G1 Cybertron)|Decepticon Headquarters]] with its [[space bridge]] deployed.

The ''Transformers'' Secret Lair cards went on sale for a limited time, starting on [[December 5]]th, [[2022]].
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[[File:MTG-SLD-True-Conviction.jpg|thumb|upright=.75|Unfortunately, does not give your creatures [[the Touch|the (Death)touch]].]]
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====Optimus Prime vs Megatron====
* [[Optimus Prime (G1)/merchandise#MTGSLD|Optimus Prime]] (reskin of [https://scryfall.com/card/dst/109/darksteel-colossus Darksteel Colossus]; colorless artifact creature)
* [[Megatron (G1)/merchandise#Magic: The Gathering|Megatron]] (reskin of [https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/235/blightsteel-colossus Blightsteel Colossus]; colorless artifact creature)
* [[AllSpark#Magic: The Gathering|The AllSpark]] (reskin of [https://scryfall.com/card/10e/321/doubling-cube Doubling Cube]; colorless artifact)
* [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] (reskin of [https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/204/command-tower Command Tower]; land)
 
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====Roll Out or Rise Up====
* [https://scryfall.com/card/sld/1082/true-conviction True Conviction] (White enchantment; depicts [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]], [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] and [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]])
* [https://scryfall.com/card/sld/1083/dramatic-reversal Dramatic Reversal] (Blue instant; depicts [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] and [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]])
* [https://scryfall.com/card/sld/1084/fabricate Fabricate] (Blue sorcery; depicts [[Unicron]] and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]])
* [https://scryfall.com/card/sld/1085/collective-brutality Collective Brutality] (Black sorcery; depicts [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] and the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]])
* [https://scryfall.com/card/sld/1086/by-force By Force] (Red sorcery; depicting [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]], [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] and [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]])
* [https://scryfall.com/card/sld/1087/greater-good Greater Good] (Green enchantment; depicts [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]])
* Cybertron (reskin of Command Tower; land)
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====One Shall Stand, One Shall Fall====
* Plains
* Island
* Swamp
* Mountain
* Forest
* Cybertron (reskin of Command Tower; land)
 
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==Notes==
* The decision to pack ''Transformers'' cards in with ''The Brothers' War'' packs was made due to the thematic and aesthetic parallels between the story of the Transformers and the titular Brothers' War.<ref>{{citesocial|quote=Brothers’ War is about giant machines fighting each other. Transformers is about giant machines fighting each other. [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|The leader of the two sides]] [[Megatron (Movie)|are even brothers in both.]] There just was a lot of thematic overlap.|link=https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/696921078664232960/maybe-i-missed-it-but-why-are-the-transformer|name=Mark Rosewater|site=Tumblr|year=2022|month=10|day=01|(defunct=)}}</ref> However, ''Magic'' head designer Mark Rosewater would later say that doing so was a misstep, as the ''Transformers'' cards clashed with the nostalgic feel of the set.<ref>{{citesocial|link=https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/making-magic/state-of-design-2023|site=magic.wizards.com|quote=Transformer{{sic}} as an overlay made some sense because the set was about giant robots, but the core of the set for many players was nostalgia. These players felt seeing cards of a different IP flew in the face of that.|name=Mark Rosewater|year=2023|month=07|day=31}}</ref> The similarly poor reception of the subsequent ''[[Jurassic Park|Jurassic World]]'' pack-ins implied that mixing licensed tie-ins in with booster packs was in general not going to work.<ref>{{citesocial|link=https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/making-magic/state-of-design-2024|site=magic.wizards.com|quote=The main issue wasn't the design of the individual cards. Most players admit that they thought the top-down design for most of them were good. The issue was that they didn't like it mixed into the set. [...] The most common feedback was not to mix ''Universes Beyond'' with ''Magic'' in-universe sets.|name=Mark Rosewater|year=2023|month=08|day=19}}</ref>
* Despite the cards being designed with their respective [[robot mode]] as their front face, most of the art pieces for the Universes Beyond series seem to depict a transformation from vehicle to robot: Ratchet is seen arriving on the scene in ambulance mode to repair [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]], Arcee is transforming into robot form mid-jump, [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] is disembarking from Goldbug's [[Volkswagen]] mode, and so on.
* Other properties that have crossed over with the game include ''[[Stranger Things]]'', ''[[Street Fighter II × Transformers|Street Fighter]]'', ''[[Doctor Who]]'', ''[[Ghostbusters]]'', the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel Universe]], and ''[[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]]''.

==See also==
*[[:Category:Magic: The Gathering images|Full gallery of ''Magic: The Gathering'' and ''Transformers'' crossover cards]]
*[https://mtg.wiki/ Magic: The Gathering Wiki]

==References==
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User talk:Alientraveller

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Alientraveller: /* Stranger Things caption */

Hey, careful with [[Transformers Wiki:Images|the filenames]]. "Image:Deceptirock.jpg|This filename is almost meaningless". --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 08:49, 30 April 2009 (EDT)

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The note about [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] in the film... Three times to get that right in a few minutes?--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 20:45, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

== ROTF sections ==

I would take care if I were you when providing ROTF fiction sections, as you've interpreted some scenes incorrectly. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:26, 10 July 2009 (EDT)
:Per: Pampage - could you please provide a screenshot? I honestly don't remember seeing two combine (and I saw the movie twice, ''focusing'' on the Constructicons the second time), and ''every other source'' says there's only one Rampage. Looking at Devastator's character model, there doesn't seem to be extra pieces there either, and all of the interviews mentioning Devastator either say six or seven, never eight.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 20:30, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
::Yes, likewise, I am not seeing any indication of two Rampages linking together during the combination sequence. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:31, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Fine, let's wait until the DVD is out. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 20:55, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
==Sentinel==
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Talk:Sentinel_Prime_%28ROTF%29

== Please explain ==

[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Talk:Ken_Christiansen this] --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:28, 14 October 2009 (EDT)
:Ahh crap. My apologies. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:33, 14 October 2009 (EDT)

== Exodus ==

Hey, I think your Exodus fiction sections are a little too brief. For example, you did Shockwave's entire role in one sentence, but didn't say what he actually did in the book. Also, don't forget the spoiler tags. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:58, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
:Heya FFN, I haven't actually read ''Exodus'' yet lol! Pretty hard to find in the UK. Just doing my bit from the Wiki summary. I have watched the campaigns on YouTube though. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 07:14, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
::While your attempt to help is appreciated, that's... not very helpful to us. Because you haven't actually read the book or played the game. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:19, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
:::Well I understand your point for the book, but the whole game is able to watch here (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=20133CFF02D60877) like a film. So while you may or may not have played it, I've watched it from beginning to end. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 07:27, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
::::I have the game and finished it. Playing a game is different to watching videos of it. You need to interpret the gameplay into words for the wiki so it feels like our standard fiction summaries, and in my opinion, that can only work if one has actually played the game in question. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:49, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
:::::Also, you're missing a fair bit of character appearances, and you basically lack detail and depth in your write ups. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:52, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
I'm sorry FFN. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 08:03, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
:Now I feel bad :( I'm sorry --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 11:30, 5 July 2010 (EDT)

== Carving Nexus ==

From the Star Saber page:

''The introductory information is from Nexus Prime's profile in Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 30.''

-ZacWilliam
:Thanks mate. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 10:12, 11 August 2010 (EDT)
== Steve Blum - Starscream ==
That sounds pretty suspect. I mean, all we know is that some guy went to an anime convention and he says that Steve Blum is Starscream. Did he ASK Steve Blum? Does he have proof? Can anybody corroborate his story? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 04:53, 4 September 2010 (EDT)
:It appears Sean Long has corroborated TFW2005's source. :) [http://tformers.com/article.php?sid=14251]

== ROTF Grindor/Blackout ==
So are you telling me that Michael Bay has confirmed that it is Grindor in Revenge of the Fallen?.
Nowhere says Michael bay has, only Hasbro that make the crappy toys. Dreamworks have said it was supposed to be Blackout. {{unsigned|77.86.81.63}}
:Cool. Where did they say that and since when does Dreamworks have the final say on what is canon and what is not? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 15:21, 5 September 2010 (EDT)
::They never said, he/she cites a source from "insiders" who also claimed Barricade would attack Sam in the college and Soundwave would sacrifice his spark to revive Megatron. Dreamworks to date has ''never'' said it is Blackout. Yes, Bay never said what Grindor's name is, because he doesn't know the helicopter's name. To him it's "Helicopter robot #2". Lastly, the opinion Hasbro [[Hasbro Studios|only]] makes toys nor the opinion of the toys' quality has no bearing on what they said, which is that it is Grindor who appeared in the film just as he did in the games, comics and toys.
::Now let's say it was Blackout who was momentarily resurrected only for Optimus to tear his face off? Then we have a major plot hole (and ROTF already had enough) wherein the heroes could have gotten their Allspark shard from Jetfire back to resurrect Optimus. Likewise, the Decepticons had one shard, which they used to resurrect Megatron, and the humans had one, which was absorbed into Jetfire's stasis-locked body. So probably for this reason, Blackout remained dead and the name Grindor was used. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 15:34, 5 September 2010 (EDT)

== Hasbro Q&A ==

Thanks, I was just going to ask the Alpha Trion question myself. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:18, 7 September 2010 (EDT)
:If more than one person asks the same question... :) [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 14:26, 7 September 2010 (EDT)

==WFC moves==

May I ask how in the name of all that's holy you managed to move [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=move&user=Alientraveller&page=&pattern=&limit=100&offset=0 88 pages] within 8 minutes? Are you using some sort of automated program to do it? {{unsigned|74.117.232.130}}
:It feels a lot longer, I can tell you that! [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 15:44, 5 March 2011 (EST)

==''Hubworld Transformers: Prime'' special==
What is this? I looked for it on hubworld.com but couldn't find it. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 11:29, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
:It's a weekly magazine show on the Hub about what's big in the entertainment world. A segment had them asking fans questions at BotCon. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 12:18, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
::Ah, okay, so it's not actually online? I ask because I want to check the context of the quiz. The title of the show suggests to me that it's supposed to be about ''Prime'' specifically, so having trivia that jibes with Aligned material would be expected, not indicative of any broader trend. Was it presented differently than that? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 18:25, 18 March 2011 (EDT)
:::No no, they were asking people at BotCon what Optimus's name was, what was his job, and then what was the Autobots' favourite soap (a kid correctly answered it from a G1 episode). Obviously Optimus's name and job depends on which continuity you're talking about, but "Orion Pax" and "data clerk" were made out as correct. Three out of four fans asked went with Orion, but only one went with data clerk and obviously the cartoon Orion was a dockworker. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 19:33, 18 March 2011 (EDT)
::::I see. Thanks for the clarification! - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 01:13, 19 March 2011 (EDT)

== Megatron and Soundwave (Prime) ==

Hi, I am the guy who wrote the comments about Megatron and Soundwave in Prime, saying how Megatron is the only jet character with a non s name, and soundwave was told to be silent. I just wanted to ask why you thought that statment was to trivial. It was somewhat interesting I thought, and the fact that soundwave was told to be silent could be somewhat of an explination. I don't want to sound like a jerk, I just want to see what other people really think of comments I make. Sorry if this makes me sound like I am one of those people why cry when my information is deleted. I just want to find out what I did wrong so it doesn't happen again.[[User:MrLordGalvatron|MrLordGalvatron]] 12:33, 23 March 2011 (EDT)
:Look, we can't have every little observation hanging around on an article. What about Starscream being the only big Movie Decepticon to come to Earth whose name didn't begin with 'B' until Megatron appeared in the film? And were you seriously speculating Soundwave doesn't talk because of one forgettable line in the game? Soundwave doesn't talk because the writers felt he's so much cooler if he only rarely speaks. Also, please don't change captions. That caption in "Darkness Rising" referred to an ''Animaniacs'' episode featuring Michelangelo and Spielberg. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 13:03, 23 March 2011 (EDT)
:: Wow. I never noticed that Starscream was the only big movie Decipticon that's name did not begin with B in the first film, thanks to Devastator/Brawl.Thanks to you, I will be thinking about that all day. I don't know about you, but I don't like the fact that WFC and Prime are in the same continuity. Doesn't make much sense. I'll try to be more "quiet" with some things I notice. (Not trying to be a jerk, just making conversation.)[[User:MrLordGalvatron|MrLordGalvatron]] 11:34, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

==Sources==
I don't think you should have upgrade DOTM's character list without sources. --[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 19:25, 13 May 2011 (EDT)

== Astrotrain ==

Thank you. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:13, 16 May 2011 (EDT)

== 2011 Hall of Fame icons ==

Are [[Ratchet (Universe)]], [[Ratchet (SG)]], [[Soundwave (BW)]], [[Soundwave (Cybertron)]], [[Sir Soundwave]], [[Ironhide (Energon)]], [[Ironhide (RID)]], [[Ironhide (RID)]], [[Ironhide (SG)]], [[Ironhide (Armada)]], [[Cliffjumper (Armada)]], [[Cliffjumper (Energon)]] and [[Cliffjumper (SG)]] supposed to get HOF icons too? I could see the two Armada characters being excluded as they are both females, but the others seem like they should definitely be included. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:35, 6 June 2011 (EDT)

Alientraveller, DO NOT ADD HOF ICONS TO CLIFFJUMPER'S PAGES AGAIN. NO NO NO NO. STOP. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:25, 9 June 2011 (EDT)
:Hey no problem, LV clarified it on G1 Cliff's page. Should probably make a note of it on the HOF's article though. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 14:49, 9 June 2011 (EDT)

== Commercial pages ==
Just wanted to thank you for helping to pick up my slack on the commercial pages the last few months. Finally got a chance to go through all the DOTM ads and what headache that was. ROTF was so much simpler with Bay's people uploading nearly all the ads on Vimeo. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 18:09, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
:You're welcome. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 18:31, 25 June 2011 (EDT)

== Shockwave Image ==
Hello, this is Jedijam91. I am one of the users from Teletraan 1. I noticed that the image on this wiki for [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]] is his depiction in DOTM. Because of our image policies at Teletraan 1 I cannot simply post the same picture that you have and I was wondering if you could lend me the image for its use on Teletraan 1. Our image is horribly outdated, its his depiction from the 2007 movie console game. [[User:Jedijam91|Jedijam91]] 22:54, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

I was also wondering if I could use the picture for the Cybonic Plague cure as well. You can reach me at my profile on Teletraan 1 here http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/User:Jedijam91. Thank you. [[Special:Contributions/208.104.218.26|208.104.218.26]] 15:40, 18 August 2011 (EDT)

== WFC comic ==

You made a request regarding [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|this comic]] about a year ago, and I have at last provided you with [[Talk:Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|a response]]. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 01:01, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
:Aw thank you for sharing your copy! [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 05:15, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
::I figured I'd at least share it and leave it to the experts on creating all the needed images, since I don't know what's specifically needed from this comic. Plus, now one can also go and make any corrections to the synopsis I wrote for it, if needed. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 12:16, 4 August 2011 (EDT)

BTW, Drivetrain is the blue Councilor with the cylindrical cranium. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 16:12, 17 September 2011 (EDT)

==Greek vs Latin==
I noticed the "Megatronus sounds Greek" bit on your user page and I just had to shatter your beliefs. The "-us" ending indicates Latin. A Greek ending would have been "-os". Moreso, "-tron" ís a Greek-derived suffix ("-on" is the Greek ending for "genderless" words, whereas "-os" is masculine). [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 13:14, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
:Heh thanks. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 13:57, 3 October 2011 (EDT)

==2017 votes==
AT, I think you put your general character votes on the Movie page. There aren't movie versions of Cyclonus, Chromedome, and Rewind. Please move them. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] ([[User talk:Monzo|talk]]) 22:22, 10 July 2017 (EDT)

==Stranger Things caption==
Hi don't make captions referencing adults being weird about child actors please. [[User:McBaggins|McBaggins]] ([[User talk:McBaggins|talk]]) 16:21, 11 April 2026 (EDT)
:I totally get it if you think it's in bad taste, I did think to myself of another caption that I can't recall now. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] ([[User talk:Alientraveller|talk]]) 16:27, 11 April 2026 (EDT)
::Oh, now I remember, it was "''Harry Potter'' if it was LGBTQ inclusive." Given how my references to [[Richard Ayoade]]'s sympathy for transphobes were nixed though, that would've been even more incendiary. :D [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] ([[User talk:Alientraveller|talk]]) 16:42, 11 April 2026 (EDT)

Stranger Things

2026-04-11T20:39:33Z

Alientraveller: I think that just adds another layer of dismissiveness on top of the lead, opting for a Kate Bush reference instead

User talk:Alientraveller

2026-04-11T20:27:32Z

Alientraveller: /* Stranger Things caption */

Code Red

2026-04-11T18:38:48Z

Alientraveller: /* Collaborative */ don't forget Joyce uses an axe

{{factions|autobot}}
:''Code Red is an [[Autobot]] from [[Stranger Things]] (via [[Transformers Collaborative|Collaborative]]).''
[[File:Collab-toy CodeRed.jpg|thumb|upright=2.33|I ordered "[[Mountain Dew]] Code Red", not "Autobot Code Red"!]]

If you need your pizza—or firepower—delivered in 30 minutes or less, you can count on '''Code Red''' to deliver it HOT to your door!<ref>[https://hasbropulse.com/collections/1027-collection/products/transformers-collaborative-stranger-things-x-transformers-code-red Transformers Collaborative Stranger Things x Transformers Code Red product description on Hasbro Pulse, 10/27/2023]</ref>

==Toys==
===''Collaborative''===
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Code Red''' ([[2023]])}}</ul>
:*''Accessories:'' Axe, bat, Surfer Boy Pizza roof light/blaster, pizza box, [[Fire Blast effect]]
{{toydesigner|[[Brian Parrish]] (Hasbro)<ref>[[December 9]], [[2024]] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCb-L1RAH_U Interview] with [[Hasbro]] designer [[Brian Parrish]] on the "Triple Takeover" podcast, from their YouTube channel.</ref>|[[Emiliano Santalucia]] (concept artist)<ref>[https://www.instagram.com/p/Cu_qRAjo79Q/ Emiliano Santalucia on Instagram]</ref>, [[Mario Carreiro]] and [[Christina Murphy]] (packaging)<ref>[[October 27]], [[2023]]'s [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQDGvr0oGqs 1027 Hasbro Pulse Premium Event] on YouTube, with [[Mark Maher]] and [[Ben MacCrae]].</ref>}}

: ''[[Transformers Collaborative]]'' Code Red transforms from robot to an officially-licensed Volkswagen Vanagon, specifically the customized "Pizzamobile" used by [[Surfer Boy Pizza]] delivery drivers in the [[Netflix]]-produced science-fiction/horror series ''[[Stranger Things]]''. Despite his compact vehicle mode, he unfurls into a Voyager Class-sized robot.

: Code Red includes an axe and spiked bat (respectively inspired by the ones wielded by ''Stranger Things'' characters Joyce Byers and Steve Harrington) to wield in robot mode, which can store on the sides of his backpack and peg onto either side of his vehicle mode. The axe and bat can also be joined together at the handle ends to make a larger two-ended weapon. The detachable decorative roof light of Code Red's vehicle mode can be converted into a blaster, capable of either being wielded by hand or mounted on the side of either shoulder when in robot mode, with a [[5 mm post|5 mm port]] included on the barrel intended to be used with the included blast effect part; the blast effect can also peg onto the handle ends of Code Red's axe and bat to turn them into side-mounted guns while in vehicle mode. Finally, Code Red also includes a small Surfer Boy Pizza pizza box, which can peg onto either of his melee weapons or slot into the top of his blaster.

: Code Red's packaging, modeled after a Surfer Boy Pizza pizza box, features a number of interesting details. The outer slipcover has a fake sticker printed on the front featuring the (fake) address and phone number for Surfer Boy's Lenora Hills location, the phone number being one of at least two which ''Stranger Things'' attributed to Surfer Boy and which, for a time, real world callers could dial to hear show-related recordings. Also printed on said "sticker", underneath Code Red's name, is a phrase written in [[Cybertronian language#Real-life alphabets|Ancient Autobot]] that reads "DELIVERED HOT TO YOUR DOOR", which is Surfer Boy Pizza's tagline. There's another fake sticker printed on the back of the slipcover with another Ancient Autobot phrase, which simply reads "CODE RED". When the [[MISB]] Code Red box is placed right-side up, the cardboard insert (and thus the vehicle mode toy inside) will be ''upside down''. Who knows why. Inside the box, printed on the cardboard insert, are a partially-eaten pizza and the makeshift sunglasses featured in ''Stranger Things''' Season 4 finale, "The Piggyback", while the actual interior has leftover crust and (''thankfully fake'') pizza grease printed on it. Faintly visible through the grease under the lid are images of an Autobot faction symbol, a [[Demogorgon]], a grandfather clock, and the symbol of the Hellfire Club. Inside the box's inner tray, Code Red comes wrapped up in what appears to be (but doesn't feel like) a wadded-up napkin covered in packing tape; carefully removing the tape from the glossy paper and unraveling the "napkin" reveals a crude map with cute sketches of additional plot details from the TV show.

: Code Red was unveiled during [[San Diego Comic-Con#2023|San Diego Comic-Con]] on [[July 21]], 2023. On [[October 27]], that year's [[Hasbro Pulse#1027 Premium Event|1027 Hasbro Pulse Premium Event]] video properly revealed him as a [[Target]] exclusive (with limited quantities on [[Hasbro Pulse]]), with pre-orders starting later that day for a ship date of [[November 26]].

==Notes==
* Based on the topping indicators on the front of the box, Code Red prefers pineapple and jalapeño on his pizza, the same topping combination featured in the show. As Argyle would say, "try before you deny".

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Collaborative Autobots]]
[[Category:Stranger Things]]
[[Category:Target exclusives]]

Talk:Stranger Things

2026-04-11T18:33:32Z

Alientraveller:

I think the stub tab should probably be removed. When it comes to information that's relevant to this wiki, there isn't really much else to add. --[[User:GobotsFanForever|GobotsFanForever]] ([[User talk:GobotsFanForever|talk]]) 13:13, 11 April 2026 (EDT)
:I saw this and pretty much thought "challenge accepted." Taken it off now. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] ([[User talk:Alientraveller|talk]]) 14:33, 11 April 2026 (EDT)

Stranger Things

2026-04-11T18:32:47Z

Alientraveller: few things; added the logo used in a promo clip of Freakwency (now linked to at the bottom), a link to the official Tudum page, and another note

[[File:Stranger Things logo.jpg|thumb|300px|Causing people to be weird about kids since 2016.]]

'''''Stranger Things''''' is a [[2016]]–[[2025]] sci-fi/horror television series streaming on [[Netflix]]. It's '80s and ''[[Demogorgon|Dungeons & Dragons]]'' nostalgia bait, pretty much.

==Toys==
===''Collaborative''===
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''[[Code Red]]''' ([[2023]])}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''[[Freakwency]] / [[8-Trax]]''' ([[2026]])}}</ul>

==Notes==
* As a series ''heavily'' inspired by '80s pop culture, it's only natural that ''Stranger Things'' tips its hat to ''Transformers''.
**In the first episode of the third season, "Suzie, Do You Copy?", one of Dustin's toys brought to life is a vintage [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#The Transformers|Ultra Magnus]] figure, which has been slightly modified (by way of tape) to add a set of motorized wheels underneath his robot feet... however, as the third season is set in 1985, this means that Dustin somehow got an Ultra Magnus the year before he was actually released. Oops.
**In season 5 episode 3, "The Turnbow Trap", Derek's bed uses 1984 [[The Transformers (merchandise)#Bedding|''The Transformers'' bedding]]. His [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] pillowcase is used to cover his head later in the episode.
**In the series finale "The Rightside Up" (season 5 episode 8), big bad the Mind Flayer reveals itself to have been disguised as the Pain Tree, converting (as Hasbro would say) into its more familiar form for the final battle.
* [[Dark Horse Comics]] holds the comic book license for the series.
* Other properties ''Stranger Things'' has crossed over with include [[LEGO]], ''[[Monopoly]]'', ''[[Fortnite]]'', ''[[Magic: The Gathering]]'', ''[[Minecraft]]'', and ''[[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]]'' (both as a toy line and in a comic released with [[IDW Publishing]].)

==External links==
*[https://www.netflix.com/tudum/stranger-things Official ''Tudum'' page]
*''{{w|Stranger Things}}'' at Wikipedia
*[[fandom:strangerthings:Stranger Things Wiki|''Stranger Things'' Wiki]]
*[https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQuCIM7knu7/ Promotional clip of Freakwency and 8-Trax]

[[Category:Stranger Things| ]]

File:Stranger Things logo.jpg

2026-04-11T18:31:54Z

Alientraveller: The ''Stranger Things'' logo. {{logo|owner=Netflix}} Category:Logos

The ''[[Stranger Things]]'' logo.

{{logo|owner=Netflix}}

[[Category:Logos]]

Stranger Things

2026-04-11T17:54:49Z

Alientraveller: /* Notes */ other crossovers

'''''Stranger Things''''' is a [[2016]]–[[2025]] sci-fi/horror television series streaming on [[Netflix]]. It's '80s and ''[[Demogorgon|Dungeons & Dragons]]'' nostalgia bait, pretty much.

==Toys==
===''Collaborative''===
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''[[Code Red]]''' ([[2023]])}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''[[Freakwency]] / [[8-Trax]]''' ([[2026]])}}</ul>

==Notes==
* As a series ''heavily'' inspired by '80s pop culture, it's only natural that ''Stranger Things'' tips its hat to ''Transformers''.
**In the first episode of the third season, "Suzie, Do You Copy?", one of Dustin's toys brought to life is a vintage [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#The Transformers|Ultra Magnus]] figure, which has been slightly modified (by way of tape) to add a set of motorized wheels underneath his robot feet... however, as the third season is set in 1985, this means that Dustin somehow got an Ultra Magnus the year before he was actually released. Oops.
**In Season 5 Episode 3, "The Turnbow Trap", Derek's bed uses 1984 [[The Transformers (merchandise)#Bedding|''The Transformers'' bedding]]. His [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] pillowcase is used to cover his head later in the episode.
* [[Dark Horse Comics]] holds the comic book license for the series.
* Other properties ''Stranger Things'' has crossed over with include [[LEGO]], ''[[Monopoly]]'', ''[[Fortnite]]'', ''[[Magic: The Gathering]]'', ''[[Minecraft]]'', and ''[[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]]'' (both as a toy line and in a comic released with [[IDW Publishing]].)

==External links==
*''{{w|Stranger Things}}'' at Wikipedia
*[[fandom:strangerthings:Stranger Things Wiki|Stranger Things Wiki]]

{{stub}}
[[Category:Stranger Things| ]]

Stranger Things

2026-04-11T17:47:42Z

Alientraveller: linked demogorgons

'''''Stranger Things''''' is a [[2016]]–[[2025]] sci-fi/horror television series streaming on [[Netflix]]. It's '80s and ''[[Demogorgon|Dungeons & Dragons]]'' nostalgia bait, pretty much.

==Toys==
===''Collaborative''===
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''[[Code Red]]''' ([[2023]])}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''[[Freakwency]] / [[8-Trax]]''' ([[2026]])}}</ul>

==Notes==
* As a series ''heavily'' inspired by '80s pop culture, it's only natural that ''Stranger Things'' tips its hat to ''Transformers''.
**In the first episode of the third season, "Suzie, Do You Copy?", one of Dustin's toys brought to life is a vintage [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#The Transformers|Ultra Magnus]] figure, which has been slightly modified (by way of tape) to add a set of motorized wheels underneath his robot feet... however, as the third season is set in 1985, this means that Dustin somehow got an Ultra Magnus the year before he was actually released. Oops.
**In Season 5 Episode 3, "The Turnbow Trap", Derek's bed uses 1984 [[The Transformers (merchandise)#Bedding|''The Transformers'' bedding]]. His [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] pillowcase is used to cover his head later in the episode.

==External links==
*''{{w|Stranger Things}}'' at Wikipedia
*[[fandom:strangerthings:Stranger Things Wiki|Stranger Things Wiki]]

{{stub}}
[[Category:Stranger Things| ]]

Thirteen

2026-03-08T15:25:22Z

Alientraveller: /* Age of the Primes marketing material */ 'Prime' got dropped from LM's toy

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[[File:Original13.jpg|center|upright=4.5|thumb|Guess the one on fire!]]

According to legend, the '''Thirteen''' were the original [[Transformer]]s created by [[Primus]] at the dawn of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]'s history. Rightfully huge and powerful, each member of the Thirteen, the first Transformers to bear the rank of "[[Prime (rank)|Prime]]", <ref>A Hasbro Q&A response would later try to alter this. See "[[#Conceptual history|Conceptual history]]."</ref> possessed unique abilities and wielded [[Artifacts of the Primes|weapons and artifacts]] of great power—indeed, some say that these thirteen Transformers formed the fundamental "archetypes" that all future generations of Transformers would imprint themselves upon.

Across the ''Transformers'' [[multiverse]], the origins, history, and even the full lineup of the Thirteen are shrouded in myth and legend. However, most historical accounts agree that the Thirteen walked Cybertron for a time until a betrayal forever shattered their ranks; the survivors of this epic conflict fled into deep space, retreated into private metaphysical realms, or simply faded into the annals of history, content to leave their very existence an open question to contemporary Transformers. Real or not, the ancient relics they left behind are still powerful enough to alter the course of Cybertronian history.

Although the Thirteen helped lay the groundwork for contemporary Cybertronian civilization, they also left behind a complicated legacy for their descendants to untangle—the story of the Thirteen is one of heroic victories and heinous cruelties, and their fall is a cautionary tale of hubris, passion, and naivety. Indeed, when the remaining members of the Thirteen resurface in the modern era, these old wounds have a habit of flaring up again...

{{bigquote|We are the 13, the first, the forgotten, each of us serving a function vital to the survival of the universe. Each of us designated a [[Prime (rank)|Prime]] and given a function to serve during the long march of infinity.|[[Vector Prime]]|"[[Vector Prime: In the Beginning]]"}}

==Conceptual history==
[[File:BW Covenant.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1|The [[Covenant (group)|Covenant]] shares the same base concept with the Thirteen, and served as their prototype.]]
The concept of the Thirteen wasn't introduced until around 20 years into the ''Transformers'' brand's history, and the slow drip-feeding of information that characterized the early stages of their story has not been presented in a very linear manner. The development of the concept is described in this section to minimize confusion; for details of their history and actions in specific bits of fiction, see below.

[[File:Vectorprimeut.jpg|thumb|upright=1|[[Vector Prime]] was a prominent member of the early Thirteen.]]
The very earliest seeds of the Thirteen can be found in material produced by [[3H Productions]] for [[BotCon]], most notably 1999's "[[Covenant (story)|Covenant]]". Written by [[Simon Furman]], this story introduces the undeniably similar concept of the [[Covenant (group)|Covenant]], a group of twelve zodiac-themed robots who are the first creations of [[Primus]], created as a test-run for the Transformer race. Despite the basic similarity between the Covenant and the Thirteen, there was no canonical connection between the two groups, aside from an ambiguous [[Ask Vector Prime]] entry published much later in 2015, which presented several different interpretations of how the groups might be related. Certainly, those same stories by 3H were incompatible with later lore of the Thirteen, as they introduced [[Primon]], a Matrix-bearer who preceded [[Prima]].

It was in the pages of 2004's ''[[Transformers: The Ultimate Guide]]'' that the mysterious "Thirteen Original Transformers" were first spoken of, and their basic origin was laid down: they were the first Transformers created by Primus to battle Unicron, and their number included Prima, the first [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]]-bearer from the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel Comics series]]; [[The Fallen]], an enigmatic servant of Unicron from [[Dreamwave Productions]]' 2003 comic, ''[[Transformers: War Within: The Dark Ages|War Within: The Dark Ages]]''; and the [[Liege Maximo]], an ancient evil [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian]] from the [[Transformers: Generation 2 (Marvel)|''Generation 2'' comics]] (whose implied status as one of the first Transformers had previously been affirmed only in Furman's unofficial novella, ''[[Alignment]]''). The book also contained a passing mention that the enigmatic [[Maccadam|manager]] of [[Maccadam's Old Oil House]], a Cybertronian pub introduced in the UK Generation 1 Marvel Comics, was rumored to be one of the Thirteen (though it also admits that this could be a fabrication by the pub's drunken patrons). Not surprisingly, it was the creator of all four of these characters—the aforementioned Simon Furman—who both wrote the guide and conceived the idea of the Thirteen,<ref>Simon Furman panel, BotCon 2012</ref> recycling the same general idea behind the Covenant.<ref>Simon Furman at BotCon 2022.</ref>

The concept of the Thirteen quietly bubbled under for the next year, until another element was added with the introduction of [[Vector Prime]] in 2005's ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]'' series. Created by lead Hasbro designer [[Aaron Archer]], Vector Prime was given a clockwork aesthetic to signify his old age and mastery over time itself, with his face evoking the [[Autobot]] sigil. While the original Japanese version of the ''Cybertron'' cartoon would simply treat him as a very ancient Autobot, Hasbro copywriter [[Forest Lee]] would canonise him as one of the Thirteen in [[Vector Prime: In the Beginning|the first story]] produced for the [[Transformers Collectors' Club]]. This story also introduced the idea that all of the Thirteen were [[Prime (rank)|Primes]], and that each had a specific function or purpose; Vector Prime's was stewardship of time, while a 2007 [[bio]] written for The Fallen's ''[[Titanium Series]]'' toy would later reveal he was the overseer of entropy.

[[File:ThirteenAaronArcherSketch.jpg|thumb|upright=1.2|The roster of the Thirteen was not established from the outset.]]
While it was not immediately apparent, Hasbro had put a plan in motion for the Thirteen with the Collectors' Club comic: across the next five years, five separate robots were introduced who were gradually revealed to be components of the very first combiner, Nexus Prime, who was one of the Thirteen. Behind the scenes, Aaron Archer developed the remaining roster of the Thirteen, carrying forward Prima, The Fallen (whose true name became Megatronus), Liege Maximo, and Vector Prime, and adding [[Alpha Trion]], the Autobot elder from [[The Transformers (cartoon)|the original cartoon]]. The new members he introduced were intended to embody different kinds of Transformers: [[Onyx Prime]] (at first named simply "Maximus", after the [[Maximal]]s) represented the beasts, [[Micronus Prime|Micronus]] was the progenitor of the [[Mini-Con]]s, [[Quintus Prime|Quintus]] was tied to the [[Quintesson]]s, with a Japan-inspired "trickster", a female "forger" ([[Solus Prime]]), and an "elemental" proto-Transformer filling out the group.<ref>{{citesocial|quote=Really we were trying to create a representation of each of the classic Transformer forms. So as I was creating the Thirteen, some had been figured out, right? So Megatronus I think, Liege Maximo, Alpha Trion I believe were already named characters... but then I tried to figure out how to bring the concept of beasts and combiners [and the Mini-Cons] and different elements into the concept, so that you had the whole pantheon of gods, different shapes and sizes and whatnot. So I went through and I drew kind of visions of what they could be. So this is not trying to figure the character out, but get the vibe of what the character was about, other talented people would come in behind me and do that. So there's like the idea that—why did the Quintessons think that they might have made the Transformers? Well they come from the guy that was like the Johnny Appleseed, or the character that seeded some of the planets, so they were confused... try to shore up some of these ideas for the Aligned continuity, right? Here's an elemental kind of concept, gears and metal and magnetism, kind of a proto-Transformer, kind of weird thing. [...] Here's another weird version of Megatronus, how big he is compared to like what Megatron would have been.|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQLQ4VzuCGA&t=689s|name=Aaron Archer|site=''The Toy Armada''|title=Toy Armada Friday night LIVE: Creating characters and lore|year=2023|month=05|day=26}}</ref> While most of these are recognisable in the final roster, it appears that the design from the "elemental" was given to the "trickster" character, resulting in [[Amalgamous Prime]], while [[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]] took over as the Prime of the elements. Additionally, [[Thirteenth Prime|one member]] of the group would remain a mystery.

[[File:NexusPrimeflankedbyotherPrimes.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1|Fun Publications also introduced the first [[combiner]], [[Nexus Prime]].]]
While these plans developed, Japanese writer [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]] introduced the character of [[Logos Prime]] in the 2006 text story ''[[Beast Wars Reborn]]'', which seemingly alluded to the idea that he was one of the Thirteen by presenting him as a peer to Vector Prime. Ichikawa did not intend this reading, however, believing it was not his place to add to the Thirteen.<ref>{{citesocial|quote=Vector PrimeとThe Fallen以外の人影は全く誰のことも想定していません。ファンの方々は「1人はLogos Primeだ」と推察していますが、それも間違いです（彼を勝手に13人とするのは図々しく不適当と感じたので、そうしたくなかった）。満足いく答えではないかも知れませんが、これが本当のところです。🙇‍♂️|link=https://twitter.com/Hirovmi/status/1627056614024036352|name=Hirofumi Ichikawa|site=Twitter|year=2023|month=02|day=18}}</ref> But fans who were aware of the character at the time latched onto the idea of Logos as one of Thirteen, unaware that that wasn't meant to be the case.

During this time, most of the information on the Thirteen came from Q&A sessions with Hasbro representatives at BotCon—where it was established that the Thirteen were [[multiversal singularity|multiversal singularities]], a concept which purported that across all the different [[universal stream]]s, only one incarnation of each of the Thirteen existed, moving between worlds. This idea would later be canonized within the pages of Fun Publications' comics. The full story of the Thirteen was to be told in a comic book mini-series by [[IDW Publishing]], written by Simon Furman, but after numerous teases the plans were eventually nixed while Hasbro worked out what they wanted to do with the characters.<ref>{{citesocial|quote=The Thirteen is probably not going to happen for a while, as it’s become more of a Hasbro thing than an IDW thing, and Hasbro need to crystallise the whole concept before it can be turned into a comic book. I think and hope it will still happen, as it’s a story I’d dearly love to tell, but I have no firm grasp or when or in what form it will eventually see print.|link=http://web.archive.org/web/20110612025753/https://hombreimaginario.deviantart.com/art/Interviews-10-Simon-Furman-130246343|name=Simon Furman|site=deviantART|year=2009|month=07|day=20}}</ref> Hasbro's desire to control and fully conceptualize the story of the Thirteen was further made evident when, after [[Fun Publications]]' Nexus Prime story concluded in the same year, they effectively took "custody" of the character as part of their future plans.[[File:TransformersVault-Prima.jpg|thumb|upright=0.75|The Aligned design for [[Prima]] was revealed at [[BotCon 2010]].]] This control, however, was evidently not all-encompassing, as The Fallen made a surprising appearance in [[2009]] as the titular villain of the second live-action ''Transformers'' film, ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'', where he not only received new backstory that removed any connection he had to Unicron, but was also presented as a member of only ''seven'' Primes instead of thirteen. Hasbro's [[Hasbro Q&A/October 2009#AllSpark.com|October 2009 online Q&A]] attempted to retroactively justify this by explaining that while all the Thirteen were Primes, only seven actually had the word "Prime" ''in their names''. However, this rationale wouldn't last.

Eventually, in 2010, the grand scope of the new [[Aligned continuity family]] became the "delivery method" for Hasbro's long-percolating tale of the Thirteen. However, the "Aligned" continuity was also established to ''not'' be part of the multiverse in which all preceding ''Transformers'' fiction took place, which until then had lain the groundwork for the Thirteen. As such, the new information introduced by the Aligned continuity was only true for ''that'' continuity, resulting in some incongruities: the surprise inclusion of [[Alpha Trion]], the inevitable omission of Logos Prime, and a second revised backstory for The Fallen that, like in ''Revenge of the Fallen'', further dissociated him from Unicron. From 2010 to 2013, various pieces of Aligned media—including the novels ''[[Transformers: Exodus]]'' and ''[[Transformers: Exiles]]'', the ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' cartoon, and the prose work ''[[Transformers: The Covenant of Primus]]''—finally detailed in full the complete roster and history of the Thirteen in the Aligned Continuity, which can all be read about further down this article.

In spite of the metaphysical complexities that had built up with the lore surrounding the ''Transformers'' multiverse and its singularities, Hasbro's Aligned roster for the Thirteen has pretty much served as the basis of every story they've appeared in since. In 2014, they were introduced to IDW Publishing's long-running continuity, receiving a whole new backstory beginning with [[The Crucible|''Robots in Disguise'' #34]]. Fun Publications would work to massage the continuity implications this had for the rest of the multiverse: Ask Vector Prime revealed that non-singularity versions of the Thirteen also exist within the multiverse (with the "Aligned Thirteen" being one such example) and finally established their own complete roster for the "Multiverse Thirteen", before the 2015 Collectors' Club comic storyline ''[[Another Light]]'' culminated in the Thirteen's existence as multiversal singularities being nullified entirely. Freed from the complex bounds of this concept, the story of the Thirteen is now free to be told any way, in any continuity.
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==Members==
Because of their complicated fictional natures, conceptual histories, and status as multiversal "archetypes", {{SITENAME SHORT}} opts to break our standard rules a little and give most members of the group a single article that covers all different versions of that character, as opposed to separate articles (G1, Unicron Trilogy, Movie, etc...) for each incarnation.

===Covenant Thirteen===
[[File:OneShallRise1-WellofAllSparks.jpg|thumb|325px|"No, Harry, no! Don't look at the light!" "I can't help it! It's so beautiful!"]]
The first full lineup of the Thirteen was originally formalized for the [[Aligned continuity family]], and properly revealed in [[2013]]<nowiki>'</nowiki>s ''[[Transformers: The Covenant of Primus]]''. The "Aligned Thirteen" were initially considered to be separate from the pre-existing "multiversal Thirteen", something backed up in fiction which described their [[universal stream|universal cluster]] as being previously separate from the multiverse. This proved not to last long outside the Multiverse Thirteen's own stories, however, and the core list (give or take [[Thirteenth Prime|a guy]]) has since rapidly propagated far beyond the bounds of Aligned media into such places as the [[2005 IDW continuity|2005]] and [[2019 IDW continuity|2019]] continuities of [[IDW Publishing]]'s comics as mentioned above, multiple yearly themes of the ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' ur-franchise, and even [[Transformers One (film)|the big screen]] to become the definitive roster of the modern day.

<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-pr1|'''[[Prima]]'''—The leader of the Thirteen, a warrior of light and the first [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix-bearer]] who wielded the [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|Star Saber]].}}
{{Bp-pr2|'''[[Vector Prime]]'''—The master of time and space, which he could manipulate through his [[Blades of Time]].}}
{{Bp-pr3|'''[[Alpha Trion]]'''—Holder of the [[Quill]], which he uses to record the past, present, and future of Cybertron in the [[Covenant of Primus]] as part of his role as recordskeeper of the Primes.}}
{{Bp-pr4|'''[[Solus Prime]]'''—The master artificer and creator of many of the Primes' weapons through use of her incredible [[Forge of Solus Prime|Forge]]. She was the first [[female Transformer|female Cybertronian]].}}
{{Bp-pr5|'''[[Micronus Prime]]'''—The conscience of the Thirteen, and the first [[Mini-Con]], able to [[Powerlinx|link up with and enhance the power]] of his siblings through the use of his [[Chimera Stone]].}}
{{Bp-pr6|'''[[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]'''—Student of the elemental structure of the natural world, aided in this by his [[Lenses]], which allowed him to see further and deeper than anyone, in both material and spiritual senses; fond of the occasional tipple, with some claiming that he still walks Cybertron in the form of a humble bartender.}}
{{Bp-pr7|'''[[Nexus Prime]]'''—The first and greatest [[combiner]], granted the ability to divide himself into separate forms by his [[Enigma of Combination]]. Unpredictable, fascinated by change, and a lighthearted prankster.}}
{{Bp-pr8|'''[[Onyx Prime]]'''—The first [[beast_mode|beast-form]] Cybertronian, a primitive and spiritual being able to view other times, places, souls, and even the afterlife through his three-faced [[Triptych Mask]].}}
{{Bp-pr9|'''[[Amalgamous Prime]]'''—The joker of the Thirteen and the first [[Shifter]], unpredictable and easygoing. He was the first Cybertronian with the ability of [[transformation]], granted him by his [[Transformation Cog (Thirteen)|Transformation Cog]], which became the basis for the cogs in all subsequent Transformer life.}}
{{Bp-pr10|'''[[Quintus Prime]]'''—A daydreamer and perfectionist whose drive to express his ideas led him to become a scientist. His artifact was the [[Emberstone]], which gave him the ability to create life; the [[Quintesson]]s were among his creations.}}
{{Bp-pr11|'''[[Liege Maximo]]'''—The "Prime of Lies", a black-hearted and amoral manipulator. Though his artifact was notionally the toxin-loaded [[Liegian Darts]], his real skill was his ability to talk others into his way of thinking.}}
{{Bp-pr12|'''[[The Fallen]]'''—Once known as '''Megatronus''', guardian of entropy and wielder of the [[Requiem Blaster (Thirteen)|Requiem Blaster]], the Fallen's name was stricken from history when the dark warrior turned on his siblings.}}
{{Bp-pr13|'''The [[Thirteenth Prime]]'''— the last and most mysterious of the Thirteen, all we can say for certain is that he bore a strong connection to the [[Matrix of Leadership]] and his depictions look [[Optimus Prime (disambiguation)|awfully familiar...]]}}</ul>

===Multiversal Thirteen===
[[File:AnotherLight-Thirteen.jpg|thumb|325px|Who are we? You'll never know!]]
Though the "multiversal Thirteen"—considered separate to the "Aligned Thirteen"—had almost half of their members revealed long before any non-multiversal incarnation was ever mentioned, the remainder of their membership was left ambiguous until a [[Source:Ask Vector Prime/Facebook#ThirteenList|June 2015 Facebook post]] from [[Ask Vector Prime]] listed off twelve of Vector Prime's siblings. The members established before either full roster were:

*'''[[Prima]]'''—The first [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix-bearer]] and first Transformer born from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], the leader of the Thirteen.<ref>''Sentinel Prime was one of a dynasty of Primes, stretching back to the original '''13 Transformers''' and their leader, Prima.''—''[[Transformers: The Ultimate Guide]]'' (2005) 1st ed p15, "Sentinel Prime"</ref> He wielded the [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|Star Saber]], a mighty blade capable of unparalleled destruction.
*'''[[Liege Maximo]]'''—A legendary schemer.<ref name="askvectorprime">[[Ask Vector Prime]] on Facebook</ref>
*'''[[The Fallen|Megatronus]]'''—Formerly the guardian of entropy, whose name was stricken from history when he betrayed his brothers and became a [[Herald of Unicron]] under the new name "'''The Fallen'''".<ref>''[[Transformers: The Ultimate Guide]]''</ref>
*'''[[Vector Prime]]'''—The guardian of space and time, who spent most of his life outside of reality, observing it and occasionally stepping in to help.
*'''[[Nexus Prime]]'''—The first combiner and the guardian of [[Rarified Energon]].

To these Vector Prime added four invented by the Covenant:

*'''[[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]'''—Rumored to have established [[Maccadam's Old Oil House|a bar]] on modern Cybertron, seeking to provide a respite from endless war.<ref name="askvectorprime"/>
*'''[[Solus Prime]]'''—A renowned smith who wielded a powerful [[Forge of Solus Prime|Forge]].<ref name="askvectorprime"/>
*'''[[Micronus Prime]]'''—The progenitor of the [[Mini-Con]]s.<ref>[[Rook - Axiom Nexus News: Investigative Journalist]]</ref>
*'''[[Onyx Prime]]'''—In-tune with nature and the organic.<ref name="askvectorprime"/>

And four other powerful figures from ''Transformers'' lore:

*'''[[Last Autobot|Autonomous Maximus]]'''—A lonely sentinel who renounced his name, becoming simply known as the Last Autobot.
*'''[[Logos Prime]]'''—An enigmatic figure who, operating in the present day under the name "Soundblaster", sought to pass on his incredible powers over time and space to an heir.
*'''[[Solomus]]'''—A gentle and kind individual, who is instead in some universes a member of the [[Guiding Hand]].
*'''[[Epistemus]]'''—A Cybertronian of unconventional intellect, also sometimes of the Guiding Hand.

===Other members===
Additional or alternative members of the Thirteen have been known to crop up, initially in subsequent Ask Vector Prime entries to illustrate the malleable nature of the multiverse:

*'''[[Adaptus]]'''—Blessed with powers of change, ''also'' sometimes of the Guiding Hand; may or may not in some universes be the same individual as Amalgamous Prime.
*'''[[Mortilus]]'''—A solitary member of the Thirteen who stayed apart from the others, who was in some universes a member of the Guiding Hand.

Or, in the modern day, via creators taking advantage of the "free space" offered by the Thirteenth Prime in the Covenant lineup:

*'''[[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]]'''—A Prime known for his wisdom.<ref>''[[Transformers: Titans Return (cartoon)|Transformers: Titans Return]]'' episode 4, "[[Overlord and Emissary]]"</ref>
*'''[[Zeta Prime (One)|Zeta Prime]]'''—A Prime that in some universes takes the role as leader and first Matrix-bearer from Prima.<ref>''[[Transformers One (film)|Transformers One]]''</ref>
*'''[[Nova Prime]]'''—A supremacist willing to break any taboo to position the Transformers as the "rightful rulers" of the multiverse. Referred to derisively by his fellow Primes as "'''The Nemesis'''."<ref>''[[Transformers: Earth Wars]]'', "[[Timeless Champions]]"</ref>

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 continuity family===
====Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity====
[[File:Thefallen.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|No, seriously guys, is it just me, or is it hot in here?]]

[[The Fallen]] was thwarted in his attempt to sabotage [[Primus]]'s [[Cybertron (planet)|physical form]], and the rest of the Thirteen died after casting the Fallen and his master [[Unicron]] through a [[black hole (phenomenon)|black hole]] into another dimension. {{storylink|Transformers: The Ultimate Guide|The Ultimate Guide}}

After [[Optimus Prime (G1)#Dreamwave Generation One continuity|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (G1)#Dreamwave Generation One continuity|Megatron]] were lost in a [[space bridge]] explosion, the Fallen was free from his prison in [[unspace|underspace]], and returned to Cybertron. He immediately set about trying to undo the [[Seal of Primus]] that locked the Well of All Sparks. However, upon his success, the Fallen was promptly destroyed by his reawoken creator. {{storylink|Transformers: War Within: The Dark Ages|The Dark Ages}}

{{Unreleased DW G1 comic}}
In the present day, Jetfire discovered that Shockwave had broken the Seal for his cloning experiments. The Fallen's essence escaped and corrupted [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]], and following his death, passed into Jetfire. This corruption caused Jetfire to be plagued by many visions, among them The Fallen beating down his brethren in an ancient battle. {{storylink|The Enemy Within}}

'''Known members:'''
*[[Prima]]
*[[The Fallen]]
*[[Maccadam]] (rumored)
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====2005 IDW continuity====
[[File:Heavy-TheThirteen.jpg|thumb|left|350px|"I think the Thirteen were blurry, that's the problem. It's not the artist's fault. The Primes were blurry, and that's extra scary to me. There were thirteen large, out-of-focus Transformers roaming Cybertron."]]
After the departure of the mythical [[Knights of Cybertron]], Cybertronian civilization, deprived of their benevolent guidance, descended once more into a primitive state of barbarism, with lesser tribal leaders carving out kingdoms and territories of their own. It was to this landscape that the [[Decepticon]] [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Shockwave]] was cast back in time by the destruction of his [[chronal drive]], and—after an encounter with a kindly shepherd named [[Onyx Prime|Onyx]]—realised from his extensive historical foreknowledge that he could study why Cybertronians inevitably fell to war by ensuring that history followed the path he knew that it must. As such, Shockwave murdered Onyx and took his identity as "Onyx Prime" in order to engineer the rise of the Thirteen Primes; his first act was to christen the most fearless member of Onyx's flock as "[[The Fallen|Megatronus]]", taking him on as a student.

Knowing that Megatronus's conquests would be the impetus for the founding of Cybertronian civilization, Shockwave allowed his pupil to run amok; {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}} Megatronus thus began a new war of conquest to expand the [[Darklands]], annexing nearby regions such as the city of [[Protihex|Protohex]] and the [[Forgotten Plains]], murdering neighbouring ruler [[Septimus Prime]] and recruiting the fearsome twin [[gladiatorial combat|gladiators]] [[Galvatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Galvatron]] and [[Arcee (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Arcee]] to become his vanguards. Other tribal leaders who had arisen, including [[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]], [[Vector Prime]], [[Solus Prime]], [[Nexus Prime]] and [[Alpha Trion]], agreed in the face of Megatronus's conquests to work together, uniting their followers and founding a small village that they named "[[Crystal City]]." {{storylink|Origin Myths}}

[[File:OP18 Thirteen in Crystal City.jpg|thumb|right|375px|Ruling from an ivory tower. What could possibly go wrong?]]

While Megatronus's legions marched on Crystal City, the united Primes were bolstered by Onyx Prime and his ''other'' student, [[Liege Maximo]], {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}} whose kingdom had been claimed by the Darklander advance. The two armies met in a battle that had the unexpected side effect of awakening three slumbering [[Titan (group)|Titan]]s—[[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]], [[Metrotitan (G1)|Metrotitan]], and [[Chela]]—from beneath Cybertron's surface, but while the armies were distracted by the arrival of the colossal beings, Onyx "realized" that their enemy was his "old friend" Megatronus. The two armies agreed to a truce, and all eight Primes vowed to work together to rebuild and unify their planet. Having been enlightened on the value of myths and stories by Alpha Trion, Onyx Prime began telling tales of his own, inspiring Alchemist with legends of a "Chosen One" and dreaming up a new [[Autobot|insignia]] to commemorate their alliance—{{storylink|Origin Myths}} all, of course, based on his own knowledge of what the future held. The [[Dark Cybertron (prophecy)|"Dark Cybertron" prophecy]] and idea of the Chosen One were specifically concocted to ensure [[Starscream (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Starscream]]'s future rise to power, as a "fool" like Starscream would not be able to see through Shockwave's machinations. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 4: The Hallowing|The Hallowing}}

The eight original Primes were soon joined by five more, and over time Cybertron's inhabitants united under the banner of the [[Thirteen Tribes]], each Prime building a distinct civilization. {{storylink|The Crucible}} In this era of peace, the Liege Maximo was responsible for building and maintaining the alliance between the Thirteen; in honor of his feats, Liege Maximo's followers became known as skilled diplomats and negotiators. {{storylink|Heavy}} Each Prime commanded the loyalty of at least one [[Titan (group)|Titan]], {{storylink|The Sum and Its Parts}} {{storylink|First Contact (IDW)|First Contact}} while the diminutive [[Titan Master]]s served as their heralds. {{storylink|White Heat}} Over the years, however, the decidedly mortal Primes had come to believe that they were inherently superior to other Cybertronians due to their powerful artifacts and historic feats; indeed, it was commonly held only another Prime could kill a Prime, though this was decidedly untrue. {{storylink|Origin Myths}} {{storylink|The Crucible}}

[[File:TheFirstWhoWasNamed-MegatronusKillsSolus.jpg|thumb|left|350px|Sephiroth, you jerk!]]
With Cybertron now in a "golden age", Onyx advised the Thirteen's leader [[Prima]] to spread Cybertron's "enlightenment" to other worlds, with their expedition—led by Onyx and Megatronus, with Alpha Trion accompanying them as recordskeeper—being the first to leave the planet since the Knights of Cybertron. However, their first planetary landing on the world of [[Antilla]] ended in a brutal conflict and the extinction of the native [[Antillan]]s, with Prima blaming Megatronus for the expedition's failure. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}} {{storylink|Our Finest}} Liege Maximo, who (seeing helpful lies as more beneficent than harmful truths) had become increasingly manipulative and self-serving, {{storylink|Heavy}} acted on Onyx's orders to stoke Megatronus's resentment over this incident, leading him to attack Prima. Solus Prime intervened to save Prima's life, but Megatronus killed her with the [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|Star Saber]] that she had created. Megatronus fled the planet, while Liege Maximo was captured by the Primes and imprisoned within his Titan, [[Vigilem]], whom the other Titans deemed unworthy of remembrance and exiled into space. A repentant splinter of Liege Maximo's old tribe agreed to keep their former leader and his Titan permanently interred, renaming their dormant Titan "[[Vigilem|Carcer]]". {{storylink|Rubicon}} {{storylink|Heavy}} {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

The fallout from Maximo's betrayal sparked the [[First Cybertronian Civil War]], turning the tribes against one another in a planet-wide conflict. {{storylink|The Crucible}} Battle lines were drawn, but allegiances shifted throughout the war, necessitating betrayals and new alliances; Onyx initially allied with Micronus, {{storylink|White Heat}} but by ten million years ago, with the war drawing to a close, his tribe of [[beast mode]] Transformers had joined forces with Nexus Prime and his [[combiner]]s. Together, they raised a new army of [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] using the [[Enigma of Combination]]. Disgusted by this fusion, [[Galvatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Galvatron]] abandoned his post in Megatronus' army to slaughter the Headmasters to the last 'bot. {{storylink|Earthfall Part 3: The Mind Bomb|The Mind Bomb}}

Together, Onyx Prime and Prima hunted down Megatronus aboard Prima's Titan [[Emissary (IDW)|Emissary]], finding him on the planet [[Tsiehshi]]. Megatronus killed Prima before being slain by Onyx, his usefulness to Shockwave's machinations at an end; Emissary carried Prima's body to the stars, but Onyx ensured that he would crash on [[Elonia|a faraway planet]]. On returning, Onyx told Alpha Trion that Megatronus and Prima slew each other in final battle—the account of their deaths that he had learned from Trion in his youth. Megatronus's name was soon forgotten by history, and he became known only as "the Fallen". {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

Eventually, Galvatron tracked down and confronted Nexus Prime, obliterating the Prime with a single blast. Realizing that they were as mortal as any other Transformer, the remaining few Primes fled the planet for other worlds, with the exception of Alpha Trion. The war finally ended when Galvatron and [[Nova Prime|Nova Major]] famously routed the bestial hordes of [[Onyx Prime]] and, with Trion's aid and blessing, united the tribes as one planet under Nova '''Prime'''. Only Galvatron and Trion were left aware of what had happened to the Thirteen Primes; Alpha Trion simply let himself fade into the background of Cybertronian society, his true background as a Prime forgotten by the general populace. {{storylink|The Crucible}}

One way or another, the Thirteen departed Cybertron and vanished from history at around the same time that the thirteen Titans departed Cybertron, with the intent of founding new colonies elsewhere in the galaxy. {{storylink|First Contact (IDW)|First Contact}} Exact details are unclear, but the mythologies of several of these colony planets claim that the Primes, including [[Solus Prime]] and [[Onyx Prime]], had spearheaded the colonization missions themselves and subsequently left these newly settled worlds to their own devices. {{storylink|The Sum and Its Parts}} {{storylink|Windblade vol. 2 issue 6|Windblade vol. 2 #6}} Either way, the developing civilizations on the colony worlds – cut off from Cybertron and the brutal injustices committed by Nova Prime and [[Nominus Prime|his]] [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|dubious]] [[Zeta Prime (G1)|successors]] – began deifying the Thirteen Primes, with some going so far as to worship any leader who wielded the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. The [[Way of Flame|dominant religion]] on [[Caminus (planet)|Caminus]] exalted Solus Prime as the greatest of the Thirteen, {{storylink|The Sum and Its Parts}} while the four tribes of [[Jungle Planet (colony)|Eukaris]] and their prophet [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] viewed Onyx Prime as a benevolent protector. {{storylink|Windblade vol. 2 issue 6|Windblade vol. 2 #6}}

The role that the original Primes had played in the establishment of Cybertronian society would eventually be immortalized on the silver screen in the "hella-racist" film, ''[[The Birth of Cybertron]]''. {{storylink|New Cybertron Part 4: Dance Among the Shadows|Dance Among the Shadows}} {{storylink|Starscream: The Movie (comic)|Starscream: The Movie}}

[[Micronus Prime]], master of [[Prion (Titan)|Prion]], {{storylink|White Heat}} was known to have abandoned his native universe entirely after founding a colony of [[Mini-Con]]s. By the present day, his body lay dormant in the center of an alternate universe: the subatomic realm of [[Microspace]]. {{storylink|O Ship of State}} The ruler of Microspace, [[Baron Karza]] eventually [[enerchange]]d with Micronus and used the Prime's power to try and conquer the Earth, {{storylink|Wrath of Karza issue 1|Wrath of Karza #1}} only for [[Shazraella]] to use [[Time Traveler]] energy to separate the Prime from her husband and banish the Mini-Con through time. {{storylink|Wrath of Karza issue 5|Wrath of Karza #5}}

[[File:GhostStories-onyxprime.jpg|thumb|right|250px|"Stand and address your Almighty Tallest, Camien child."]]

The colony of Caminus detected a Cybertronian beacon emanating from the planet [[Antilla]] and sent three representatives to make contact with their ancestors. When they arrived, they found the planet to be a rusted wasteland ruled by Onyx Prime, who murdered [[Magrada]]. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 1: Surfeit of Primes|Surfeit of Primes}} Following the expedition's return to Caminus, the [[Torchbearer]] [[Pyra Magna (G1)|Pyra Magna]] encountered Onyx Prime when an army of robotic beasts terrorized the inhabitants of [[Parvus Oppidum]] so they could retrieve a sample of [[Ore-4]]. The experience left her traumatized, but with time she realized that the Primes were not the divine entities that she had believed them to be and began preparing to take up arms against Primes should the need arise. {{storylink|Ghost Stories}} {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 6: Unforgivable|Unforgivable}}

In the modern day, [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Shockwave]] unknowingly sent the [[Regenesis]] ores off to what he believed were random suitable worlds, but were, thanks to his future self's time-travelling manipulations, worlds touched by the Thirteen. {{storylink|The Crucible}} {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

When Cybertron re-opened a [[space bridge|spacebridge]] link with Caminus after years of isolation, the [[Mistress of Flame]] believed that Optimus, wielding the Matrix of Leadership, was the legendary reincarnation of the Thirteenth Prime: a mysterious figure from Cybertron's past known as "[[Thirteenth Prime#2005 IDW continuity|the Arisen]]". {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 3: The Medium and the Message|The Medium and the Message}} Optimus's supposed divinity proved a double-edged sword as he grew increasingly bold and unilateral in his decision making; leaning on the faith of others to unconditionally support his choices, he wound up annexing Earth into the [[Council of Worlds]] and sparking an interplanetary diplomatic crisis. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 1: Once Upon a Time on Earth|Once Upon a Time on Earth}} [[Colonist Soldiers|New recruits]] from Caminus, Eukaris, [[Velocitron]], and [[Devisiun (planet)|Devisiun]] believed wholeheartedly in Optimus's status as one of the Thirteen and began wearing [[mouthplate]]s to better emulate their leader. {{storylink|New Cybertron Part 1: To Walk Among the Chosen|To Walk Among the Chosen}}

Liege Maximo escaped from his imprisonment in Carcer in 2017, following a [[zombie]] Titan invasion on Cybertron. {{storylink|Rubicon}} The Camien [[Chromia (G1)|Chromia]] was released from prison by Cybertron's leader Starscream to hunt Maximo down, {{storylink|Heavy}} {{storylink|The Chosen One}} but Liege—who, by this point, had come to understand his master's decision to exile him aboard his loyal Titan—was found by Onyx, and brought with him in chains on his return to Cybertron. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 1: Surfeit of Primes|Surfeit of Primes}} Liege was taken into custody while Optimus and the [[Council of Worlds]] entered negotiations with Onyx, but the Prime's manipulations caused infighting and chaos, as well as an explosion that killed Alpha Trion. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 2: Another Mine|Another Mine}} With all of his plans falling into place, Shockwave discarded his "Onyx" identity, having no further use for it after he cast Optimus into the Crystal City singularity. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 4: The Hallowing|The Hallowing}}

Though Maximo soon perished and Shockwave was taken prisoner, the Decepticon's machinations had forced all of Cybertron accept a bitter truth: the Thirteen had been nothing more than ordinary Cybertronians. Upon hearing Pyra Magna vocalize this, Shockwave claimed this acceptance had been part of his plan to render all faiths and beliefs on Cybertron meaningless in preparation for [[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]]'s arrival. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 6: Unforgivable|Unforgivable}}

'''Known members:'''
:''See "[[#Covenant Thirteen|Covenant Thirteen]]" above''

As you can see, things got uncharacteristically granular for the Thirteen over the course of IDW Publishing's mammoth original continuity. Far from the usual name checks, by curtain call each Prime had (on average) led a [[Thirteen Tribes|tribe]] on feudal Cybertron and befriended a [[Titan (group)|Titan]]. At least five of these Titans went on to found [[Cybertronian colonies|offworld colonies]] during Cybertron's first age of expansion. With the collapse of Cybertron's first imperial phase, the existence of these colonies faded into myth and legend; future generations of Transformers would conflate the stories of these populated worlds with the other planets that had played a key role in the rise and fall of the Primes, eventually giving rise to a legend that ''thirteen'' lost colonies existed across the galaxy, one for each Prime. {{storylink|Transformers: Historia|Historia}} Years later, the younger Shockwave "seeded" these thirteen significant planets with [[Regenesis]] ores, each bearing various fantastical powers. Taken all together, known information gives us:

{|class="wikitable" border="10" style="width:95%" align="center"
|-
! scope="col" width="6.1%" |Prime
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''[[Prima]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''[[Vector Prime]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''[[Alpha Trion]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''[[Solus Prime]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''[[Micronus Prime]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''[[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''[[Nexus Prime]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''[[Onyx Prime]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''[[Amalgamous Prime]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''[[Quintus Prime]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''[[Liege Maximo]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''[[The Fallen|Megatronus]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''[[Thirteenth Prime|The Arisen]]'''
|-
|'''[[Titan (group)|Titan]]'''
|[[Emissary (IDW)|Emissary]]
|[[Tempo]]
|[[Nemesis (BW)|Nemesis]]
|[[Caminus (Titan)|Caminus]]
|[[Prion (Titan)|Prion]]
|[[Metrobase (G1)|Metrobase]]
|[[Devisiun (Titan)|Devisiun]]
|[[Chela]]
|[[Navitas]]
|[[Necrotitan|Quintessa]]
|[[Vigilem]]
|[[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]
|[[Metrotitan (G1)|Metrotitan]]
|-
|'''Planet'''
|[[Elonia]]
|[[LV-117]]
|[[Antilla]]
|[[Caminus (planet)|Caminus]]
|[[Prion (planet)|Prion]]
|[[Arduria]]
|[[Devisiun (planet)|Devisiun]]
|[[Jungle Planet (colony)|Eukaris]]
|[[Velocitron]]
|[[Gorlam Prime]]
|[[Vigilem|Carcer]]
|[[Tsiehshi]]
|[[Earth]]
|-
|'''[[Regenesis|Regenesis ore]]'''
|[[Ore-12]] ("Protection")
|[[Ore-1]] ("Time")
|[[Ore-7]] ("Change")
|[[Ore-4]] ("Gravity")
|[[Ore-3]] ("Size")
|[[Ore-6]] ("Cold")
|[[Ore-5]] ("Combination")
|[[Ore-11]] ("Evolution")
|[[Ore-9]] ("Space")
|[[Ore-2]] ("Death")
|[[Ore-10]] ("Deception")
|[[Ore-8]] ("Destruction")
|[[Ore-13]] ("Power")
|}
{{--}}

====''Prime Wars Trilogy'' continuity====
=====''Prime Wars Trilogy'' marketing material=====
[[File:Throne of Primes Thirteen.jpg|thumb|right|upright=2.0|Before time began, there was just a whole mess of cubes.]]
The [[spark]]s of the original Primes were carried by the [[Prime Master]]s, tiny Transformers who, when in spark mode, could unite with larger Transformers to grant them [[Prime Master/Combinations|the powers of the Primes]] to wield as they choose. To minimise unwanted attention from those who sought the power they held, the Prime Masters hid themselves inside special decoy armor, which cloaked their vast power from the outside world.

Rather than a Prime Master, the role of the Thirteenth Prime was held by whoever currently bore the [[Matrix of Leadership]].<ref name="POTPMatrix">Comments made by Hasbro representatives at [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2017.</ref> The Thirteenth Prime was, however, made into a Prime Master too, transforming into a core resembling the Matrix of Leadership.

'''Known members:'''
:''See "[[#Covenant Thirteen|Covenant Thirteen]]" above''

The actual nature of the relationship between the incorporeal Primes and their diminutive "hosts" was thinly sketched at best and grew actively fuzzier as the ''[[Power of the Primes (franchise)|Power of the Primes]]'' franchise wore on, but the Prime Masters given explicit pairs of names were:

{|class="wikitable" border="10" style="width:70%" align="center"
|-
! scope="col" width="6.7%" |Prime
! scope="col" width="7.7%" |'''[[Vector Prime]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.7%" |'''[[Alpha Trion]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.7%" |'''[[Solus Prime]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.7%" |'''[[Micronus Prime]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.7%" |'''[[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.7%" |'''[[Quintus Prime]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.7%" |'''[[Liege Maximo]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.7%" |'''[[The Fallen|Megatronus]]'''
|-
|'''Decoy Armor'''
|[[Metalhawk (G1)|Metalhawk]]
|[[Landmine (G1)|Landmine]]
|[[Octopunch (G1)|Octopunch]]
|[[Cloudburst]]
|[[Submarauder (G1)|Submarauder]]
|[[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]]
|[[Skullgrin]]
|[[Bomb-Burst (G1)|Bomb-Burst]]
|}

=====''Prime Wars Trilogy'' cartoon=====
The combined knowledge of the Thirteen was hidden away in the [[Athenaeum Sanctorum]]. In the wake of [[Solus Prime]]'s death at [[The Fallen|Megatronus]]'s hands, the remaining members chose to seal away the [[Requiem Blaster (Thirteen)|Requiem Blaster]] in [[Primal Swamp]], tasking a series of guardians with protecting it that culminated in [[Optimus Primal (BW)|Optimus Primal]]. {{storylink|Athenaeum Sanctorum (episode)|Athenaeum Sanctorum}}

During a crisis, the [[Mistress of Flame]] prayed to Primus and the Thirteen for spiritual guidance and aid. {{storylink|Overlord and Emissary}}

{{groupstub|{{storylink|All Things Must Pass}} {{storylink|The Swamp}} {{storylink|Volcanicus (episode)|Volcanicus}} {{storylink|Without Warning}} {{storylink|Consequences}} {{storylink|Collision Course}} {{storylink|Megatronus Unleashed}} {{storylink|Saga's End}}}}

'''Known members:'''
{{collist|3|
*[[Prima]]
*[[The Fallen|Megatronus]]
*[[Alpha Trion]]
*[[Vector Prime]]
*[[Solus Prime]]
*[[Amalgamous Prime]]
*[[Nexus Prime]]
*[[Liege Maximo]]
*[[Onyx Prime]]
*[[Micronus Prime|Micronus]]
*[[Quintus Prime]]
*[[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]
*[[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]]
}}

====2019 IDW continuity====
[[File:EndOfTime-Thirteen.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Prima and Megatronus, surprisingly ''not'' at each other's throats in this universe. Also, Liege Maximo in the background?]]

The Thirteen Primes were said to have lived in the [[Age of Primes]], before they vanished. {{storylink|War World: Prime|Prime}} [[Termagax]] considered them to be metaphors, avatars, or an expression of the life pattern that made up Cybertron itself, {{storylink|End of Time}} even postulating that the Thirteen might have been fabricated by the early Cybertronians to explain the origins of their [[Artifacts of the Primes|fourteen artifacts]]. Out of all these artifacts, only the Matrix of Leadership and the Enigma of Combination had been seen following the Primes' disappearance. {{storylink|Lord of Misrule: Sea of Rust I|Sea of Rust I}}

The Age of Primes gave way to the [[Age of the Firstforged]]. According to one creation myth, this new generation of Cybertron emerged from the [[Ur-Forge]] of Solus Prime. {{storylink|End of Time}} Though their time had passed, some of the Primes who had not fallen or departed lingered among the [[Firstforged]]. Legend said that Solus Prime and Alchemist Prime received [[Solomus]] to hear his plans for [[Crystal City]], and contributed to its construction. {{storylink|A Dust of Crystals}}

When forced to take [[Lodestar (Titan)|Lodestar]] on an almost certainly suicidal mission against a crazed [[Vigilem]], [[Lightbright (G1)|Lightbright]] prayed that the Thirteen would see the two through their task. {{storylink|The Change In Your Nature Part Five}}

Legends of the Thirteenth Prime, the final bearer of the Matrix, persisted into the present day, and how they would one day claim it. {{storylink|War World: Prime|Prime}}

'''Known members:'''
{{collist|3|
*[[Prima]]
*[[Vector Prime]]
*[[Solus Prime]]
*[[Micronus Prime]]
*[[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]
*[[Nexus Prime]]
*[[Quintus Prime]]
*[[Liege Maximo]]
*[[The Fallen|Megatronus]]
*[[Thirteenth Prime#2019 IDW continuity|The Thirteenth Prime]]
}}

{{note|Though the Thirteen's membership in this timeline is based off the "[[#Covenant Thirteen|Covenant Thirteen]]", only ten of the group's members were identified before the continuity came to a close. Of the missing three, the [[Transformation Cog (Thirteen)|Transformation Cog]] of [[Amalgamous Prime]] and the [[Triptych Mask]] of [[Onyx Prime]] were mentioned by Termagax and while [[Alpha Trion]] appeared, there was no explicit confirmation, or rejection, that he was one of the Thirteen—though he ''does'' appear in a stained-glass mural alongside other members of the Thirteen in [[The Cracks Beneath Your Feet Part Five|issue #11]].}}
{{--}}

====''War for Cybertron Trilogy'' cartoon====
[[File:EarthriseEpisode5-SkyLynxfloating.jpg|thumb|left|300px|]]
{{groupstub|{{storylink|Earthrise episode 5}}}}

'''Known members:'''
*[[Solus Prime]]
*[[The Fallen]]
*[[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]

====''End of G1 Universe''====
[[File:End of G1 Universe Prime Council.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.5|]]
When [[Maximal]] leader [[Lio Convoy|Leo Prime]] disbanded the "[[Convoy (rank)|Convoy]]" system of government following the end of the [[Cybertronian civil wars|Second Great War]], he replaced the [[Convoy Council]] with the '''Prime Council''' (プライム評議会 ''Puraimu Hyōgika''), a thirteen-seat board of democratically elected [[Prime Leader]]s known colloquially as the "Thirteen Primes." Leo ceded much of his own governing authority to the Council, concerning himself solely with defense of the realm going forward. The Maximal government granted blanket amnesty and eligibility for office to all and sundry, resulting in the bombastic one-time interdimensional invader [[The Fallen|Megatronus The Fallen Prime]] becoming a prominent voice on the body.

As an epidemic of natural disasters signaled that the Maximals' universe had begun to reach the end of its lifespan, discovering a resource with which to slow the damage became the top of the Council's agenda. In this effort the Council dismissed outright the use of [[Angolmois Energy]] as a threat to public safety, a policy Leo Prime found increasingly exasperating as the energy crisis wore on.

When Leo Prime's patrols across [[Aligned continuity family|adjacent dimensions]] inadvertently resulted in a horde of wild beasts known as "[[Predacon (Prime)|Predacons]]" breaching the Maximals' universe, the Prime Council nearly called for his removal until Megatronus trotted out his own sob story of redemption to get the old lion out of hot water. The Council subsequently cajoled Leo into investigating the [[spirit energy]] of [[Legends World]] as a potential alternative to Angolmois. This proved to be little more than a stalling tactic. As soon as the senior Prime was offworld, the Council seized on the lack of oversight to implement the [[Anti-Angolmois Energy Act]]. Under this statute, the Thirteen had their [[Primal Vanguard]] round up any and all citizens found to be in possession of the substance— including the divine supercomputer [[Primus|Vector Sigma]], and Leo Prime's 100% Angolmois son, [[Lio Junior]]!

The Council leaked that last bit to bait Leo Prime home with the intention of arresting him as the final Angolmois Energy user. In the course of the ensuing scuffle, Megatronus revealed the Thirteen's ultimate plan: to burn the [[Transformer afterlife]] itself as fuel, with the souls of the "unworthy" dead being used to power the evacuation of the Council and their hand-picked "model citizens" to a new dimension. Leo did not like that plan one bit, and put a definitive end to the Thirteen's schemes by slaying Megatronus at the cost of his own life. {{storylink|Age of Primes (End of G1 Universe)|Age of Primes}}

Following the battle, the distraught [[Dimensional Patrol]] cadet [[Blue Bolts (RID)|Bluebolt]] fled to [[Earth]] under a freed Vector Sigma's orders and revived the corpse of her fallen commander using a {{w|magic circle}} made up of the symbols of the Thirteen. Leo Prime's body merged with the remnants of [[Unicron]]'s Angolmois Energy within the planet as intended, but the ingredients reacted... unexpectedly, creating the mercurial [[Dark Amber Leo Prime]]. {{Storylink|Dark Amber Leo Prime (First)}} {{Storylink|Dark Amber Leo Prime#Masterpiece|Dark Amber Leo Prime bio}}

'''Known members:'''
{{collist|3|
*[[Onyx Prime]]
*[[The Fallen|Megatronus The Fallen Prime]]
*[[Solus Prime]]
*[[Prima|Prima Prime]]
*[[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]
*[[Amalgamous Prime]]
*[[Quintus Prime]]
}}
{{--}}

====Energon Universe====
[[File:TF2023 no. 22 - Hall of the Primes.jpg|thumb|left|upright=0.8|]]
The departed essences of the Thirteen apparently resided in the [[Hall of the Primes]], an extra-dimensional realm within the Matrix of Leadership. Giant effigies of each of the Thirteen stood in the Hall, dwarfing those who ventured through it. {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 22|Transformers #22}} [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] once swore by "the soul of the Fallen". {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 3|Transformers #3}} Optimus Prime and [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparky]] purged a corrupting infection from the Hall of the Primes, seemingly guided by the spirits of the Thirteen. {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 23|Transformers #23}}

'''Known members:'''
{{collist|3|
*[[The Fallen]]
*[[Nexus Prime]]
*[[Liege Maximo]]
*[[Quintus Prime]]
*[[Solus Prime]]
*[[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]
*[[Prima]]
*[[Vector Prime]]
}}
{{--}}

===Fun Publications===
[[Vector Prime]] aided the [[Autobot]]s in finding the [[Cyber Planet Key]]s to close the [[Unicron Singularity]]. He regularly reported their progress to [[Alpha Trion]], but during one visit Unicron's servants [[Ramjet (Universe)|Ramjet]] and [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)|Nemesis Prime]] attacked. {{storylink|Balancing Act}} [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]] came to Cybertron looking for clues to his past, only to be attacked by [[Scorponok (Energon)|Dark Scorponok]], {{storylink|Balancing Act, Part 2}} but his forcefield protected him. Ramjet offered him clues to his past in exchange for his <s>soul</s> service. {{storylink|Balancing Act, Part 3}} They went to Primus's spark core to destroy him with the [[Dead Matrix]], but Vector and [[Sentinel Maximus]] fought back. {{storylink|Balancing Act, Part 4}} Ramjet said he would stop trying to kill Primus if Vector aided them in restoring the balance by resurrecting Unicron, but he refused. {{storylink|Balancing Act, Pt 5}} Skyfall tried to save Ramjet but his forcefield only ignited an explosion that killed Ramjet. {{storylink|Revelations Part 1}} Vector had drones repair Skyfall and found [[Omega Prime]]—the creation of one of Trion's [[Viron]] counterparts—had helped Sentinel defeated Nemesis. Omega's presence saddened Vector, as it confirmed the multiverse was falling apart, and he left for Earth. {{storylink|Revelations Part 2}}

Skyfall was helping Sentinel repair [[Vector Sigma]], when [[Over-Run (Armada)|Over-Run]] informed him he had found a twenty-million-cycle-old carving of him and another bot. {{storylink|Revelations Part 4}} Immediately during a battle between [[Mini-Con]] Autobots and [[Decepticon]]s, Skyfall found [[Landquake (Timelines)|Landquake]]. {{storylink|Revelations Part 5}} The two seemingly vanished when Unicron attacked, {{storylink|Revelations Part 6}} when they had been transported to [[Breakaway (Classics)|Breakaway]]'s universe, {{storylink|Crossing Over, Part 1}} and the trio and went through a [[space bridge]] {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 6}} to find [[Topspin (Classics)|Topspin]] in [[Axiom Nexus]]. [[Cheetor (TransTech)|Cheetor]] and [[Silverbolt (TransTech)|Silverbolt]] introduced the trio to [[Alpha Trion#Shattered Glass|Alpha Trion]]. However, [[Shockwave (TransTech)|Shockwave]] had Breakaway quietly subdued and taken to his laboratory. {{storylink|Transcendent: Part 1}} Skyfall and Landquake realized Breakaway was gone, but Alpha Trion told them to come with him if they wanted to rescue their brother from the evil [[Transcendent Technomorph|TransTechs]]. {{storylink|Transcendent: Part 2}} He explained he was not from this dimension and was part of a resistance movement, introducing them to Topspin, whose job was to transfer their [[lowtech]] followers' [[spark]]s into their TransTech counterparts. Realizing Topspin was one of their kin, Skyfall and Landquake agreed to help. {{storylink|Transcendent: Part 3}} [[Nightscream (TransTech)|Nightscream]] found Breakaway was being held near the portal to Alpha Trion's dimension, {{storylink|Transcendent: Part 4}} and his acolytes attacked, rescuing Breakaway {{storylink|Transcendent: Part 5}} and entering the [[unspace|transwarp]] device. Alpha Trion explained to Skyfall he was the key to the reunification, and killed him as they entered [[Primax -408.24 Epsilon|his universe]]. {{storylink|Transcendent: Part 6}}

[[File:Reunification5-arisenexusprime.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.95|"It's beautiful..." "Holy crap!" "It's perfect!" "This is the best thing!"]]
Despite his claim his was a peaceful world, Alpha Trion shot [[Downshift (SG)|Downshift]], and Breakaway realized Skyfall had been killed by an energy blade rather than shot from behind as the old Autobot claimed. Alpha Trion's troops arrived, took the four components and he proclaimed he would kill them all—as reunification still worked with one of them dead—and that his reign would begin. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 1}} Landquake manipulated the raw energon and used smokebombs to escape, with Topspin and Breakaway carrying Skyfall. Weeks later, after trying unsuccessfully to revive Skyfall, {{storylink|Reunification: Part 2}} the [[Quintesson]] [[Aquarius (SG)|Aquarius]] appeared to take them to [[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]]. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 3}} Landquake explained their situation to the Decepticons, and Megatron asked [[Cyclonus (SG)|Cyclonus]] to bring [[Heatwave (Timelines)|Heatwave]], but then Cyclonus, revealing himself to be an agent of Alpha Trion, assassinated Megatron. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 4}} Breakaway suggested they use their powers to revive Megatron, and found themselves in a white space with Skyfall and Primus. They made their choice: [[Nexus Prime]] was reborn. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 5}} Nexus resurrected Megatron as Galvatron and defeated [[Omega Doom]]. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 6}} Using Galvatron's gift of the [[Space bridge|stellar spanner]], Nexus and Aquarius began dimension-hopping to find the shards of the [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|artifact]] he had been entrusted with, so he could complete his memories. While Nexus outlined the artifact's background to Aquarius, the faces of Vector Prime and [[The Fallen]] flashed through his mind. {{storylink|The Coming Storm: Part 1}}

The TransTechs knew the [[Mini-Con]]s to be the children of [[Micronus Prime]] {{storylink|Rook - Axiom Nexus News: Investigative Journalist|Rook - Axiom Nexus News, 2015/05/09}} and early on in their history were threatened with an ultimately failed coup led by [[Jhiaxus (TransTech)|Jhiaxus]], a follower of the [[Liege Maximo]]. {{storylink|Rook - Axiom Nexus News: Investigative Journalist|Rook - Axiom Nexus News, 2015/05/06}}

When the [[Transcendent Technomorph|TransTech]]s detected significant multiversal chaos resulting from negative polarity Primax Autobots [[Invasion (issue)|crossing over into a mirror universe]], they suspected that [[Rarified Energon]] was somehow involved. [[Rhinox (TransTech)|Rhinox]] was also aware of (correct) rumors that the Thirteen were involved with Rarified Energon. {{storylink|Invasion Prologue}} As part of their response to the multiversal chaos, the TransTechs deployed [[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]] to prehistoric Shatteredverse Earth in order to keep the [[Origin Matrix]] out of evil hands. {{storylink|Invasion: Epilogue}}

After several unspecified adventures, Aquarius ended up in Axiom Nexus and took charge of a shard of the Star Saber from [[Chifumi Takahashi|a courier]]. In exchange, he promised to help her get home. {{storylink|Transformers I.Q.#issue 48|Transformers I.Q. last issue review}} To their surprise, however, they ended up on Shatteredverse Cybertron. It soon became obvious that Nexus had transported them there in order to receive the [[Origin Matrix]], the fifth and final piece, from [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], recently retrieved from prehistoric Shatteredverse Earth. {{storylink|Transformers I.Q.#issue 54|Transformers I.Q. trivia bonus #12}} {{storylink|Falling into Place}}

When he reunited the [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|Star Saber]] and the [[Terminus Blade]], Nexus Prime decided that he was going to return things to "how they used to be", {{storylink|Restoration}} and strengthened the walls between the various realities of the multiverse, which had the consequence of ending the existence of he and siblings as multiversal singularities. {{storylink|Out of the One, Many}}

'''Known members:'''
:''See "[[#Multiversal Thirteen|Multiversal Thirteen]]" above''

====Olympian universe====
In certain universes, the Thirteen visited [[Greece]] in a time before human technology was advanced enough for them to assume vehicular disguises. Instead, twelve of their number dwelled on [[Mount Olympus]] and used [[holomatter]] avatars to interact with the natives, {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/07/20}} while [[Mortilus]] remained beneath the Earth with their ship, alongside his vassal [[Bruticus (RID)|Bruticus]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/08/08}}

As "quasi-humans", the Thirteen would become known to the local humans as the {{w|Twelve Olympians|gods of Olympus}}. [[Vector Prime]] was {{w|Hermes}}; the rage-filled [[The Fallen|Megatronus]] was {{w|Ares}}; the hard-working [[Solus Prime]] was {{w|Hephaestus}}; the wise [[Alpha Trion]] was {{w|Athena}}; the eldest of their number [[Prima]] was {{w|Zeus}}; his close ally [[Nexus Prime|Nexus Maximus]] was {{w|Hera}}; the nature-loving hunter [[Onyx Prime]] was {{w|Artemis}}; the hard-drinking [[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]] was {{w|Dionysus}}; the vain and manipulative [[Liege Maximo]] was {{w|Aphrodite}}; the healer [[Last Autobot|Autonomous Prime]] was {{w|Apollo}}; the chaotic [[Adaptus]] was {{w|Poseidon}}; the solitary Mortilus was {{w|Hades}}; and the knowledge-sharing [[Epistemus]] was {{w|Demeter}}. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/07/20}} {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/08/08}}

As the Olympians, several of the Thirteen deviated from both their more common gender identities and their status as siblings; Vector considered Hades and Poseidon to be his uncles, {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/07/20}} and because of the animosity between Hephaestus and Aphrodite, Zeus decreed that they should be [[Transformer romance|bonded together]] to avoid further conflict (which only made things worse). Amongst the Thirteen's many experiences, Hades and Demeter quarrelled over a woman named [[Persephone]]; Vector would later note that as "quasi-humans" their conflicts were far more petty and frequent. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/08/08}}

'''Known members:'''
{{collist|3|
*[[Vector Prime|Hermes]]
*[[The Fallen|Ares]]
*[[Solus Prime|Hephaestus]]
*[[Alpha Trion|Athena]]
*[[Prima|Zeus]]
*[[Nexus Prime|Hera]]
*[[Onyx Prime|Artemis]]
*[[Maccadam|Dionysus]]
*[[Liege Maximo|Aphrodite]]
*[[Last Autobot|Apollo]]
*[[Adaptus|Poseidon]]
*[[Mortilus|Hades]]
*[[Epistemus|Demeter]]
}}

===Live-action film series===
{{main|Dynasty of Primes}}

[[File:ROTF-sixprimes.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.66|The Primes in the Matrix/Allspark/surreal part of Primus's imagination.]]
The Primes were the guardians of the [[AllSpark]], charged with replenishing it. They commanded [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seekers]] and [[Constructicon (ROTF)|workers]] to find stars and replenish the AllSpark with their energy. The Fallen began seeing himself as the AllSpark's chosen one and began destroying solar systems with sentient life to replenish the Cube. His brothers warned him not to do it again, so The Fallen tried it again on [[Earth]] to lure them. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 3|Tales of the Fallen #3}} The Fallen slaughtered all his brothers bar Prima himself, who gathered his brothers' lifeforce to trap The Fallen in his [[sarcophagus]]. Prima sacrificed himself to form a [[Tomb of the Primes|tomb]] with his brothers' bodies to hide the Matrix. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 4|Tales of the Fallen #4}}

A long time passed, and The Fallen was eventually dug up. From his prison, he pushed [[Megatron (Movie)|High Protector Megatron]] into forming the Decepticons. {{storylink|Defiance issue 2|Defiance #2}} Thousands of years later, [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], the sole surviving descendant of the Primes to survive The Fallen's rampage, {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen issue 3|Revenge of the Fallen #3}} had been killed. The Primes appeared to [[Sam Witwicky]], giving him the Matrix to revive Optimus, and Optimus avenged The Fallen's brothers by killing him. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

'''Known members:'''
*[[Prima]]
*[[The Fallen]]

{{note|The ''Revenge of the Fallen'' adaptations have thirteen Primes. While designs were made for twelve non-Fallen Prime heads, the finished film shows only seven Primes, and this change was followed in ''[[Transformers: Tales of the Fallen|Tales of the Fallen]]'' and [[Transformers (Titan Magazine)|the Titan magazine]].}}

===Aligned continuity family===
[[File:OneShallRise1-TheThirteen.jpg|thumb|upright=2.2|They're not a fan of direct lighting.]]

Seeing the endless stalemate between him and [[Unicron#Aligned continuity family|Unicron]], [[Primus]] created the Thirteen, warriors in the mold of himself and Unicron, to fight in his stead and introduce random variables. The Thirteen did indeed succeed in [[Expulsion of Unicron|defeating Unicron]] but were infected with a touch of the Chaos-Bringer's darkness as a result of direct proximity to the Dark God.

Following Unicron's exile, the Primes began reshaping their world before the manipulations of [[Liege Maximo]] caused the group to descend into civil war. The skirmish claimed both Maximo and [[Solus Prime]]. [[Onyx Prime|Onyx]], [[Micronus Prime|Micronus]] and [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] chose to descend into the [[Core]] and join Primus so they could aid in the creation of the Cybertronian race with [[Prima]], [[Alpha Trion]] and [[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]] remaining on Cybertron to act as stewards for the newborn species while [[Nexus Prime]] separated himself into separate individuals to live among the ordinary Cybertronians. [[Quintus Prime|Quintus]], [[Amalgamous Prime|Amalgamous]], [[Vector Prime]] and [[The Fallen]] left Cybertron outright.

Following the [[Great Cataclysm]], Prima and Alchemist Prime disappeared with Alpha Trion choosing to fall into obscurity. As a result, the Thirteen became little more than a myth in the new era. {{storylink|Transformers: The Covenant of Primus|Covenant of Primus}}

What lore regarding the Primes survived into the pre-War era is that their war made them "enemies of brothers, murderers of lovers, heroes of the insignificant, and cowards of the mighty". Allegiances formed and broke apart: Megatronus refused to bow before his brothers, and he believed he would be vindicated someday despite his destructive methods. The murder of one sent them across the stars, to battle among themselves for billions of cycles. Finally, there came a time when Prima had to relinquish the Matrix. Afterward, the [[Covenant of Primus]] decreed Cybertron could only have one Prime at a time. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}} The chamber of the [[Autobot High Council|High Council of Cybertron]] had statues depicting the Primes. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}

[[File:OneShallRise1-Thirteenattack.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.66|Three seconds of one episode made up for a lifetime of lack of Thirteen images.]]
[[Alpha Trion]] remained on Cybertron, recording these events into the Covenant, and the Primes became myths doubted by [[Jazz (WFC)|some]]. Alpha Trion retreated into becoming the Archivist of the [[Hall of Records]] when [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Sentinel Prime]], the [[Autobot High Council|High Council]], and the [[Guilds of Cybertron]] ignored his protests about the [[Functionism|caste system]]. The [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] did not bestow itself onto another until the unworthy Sentinel died, and [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] was imbued with it, while his nemesis had become known as [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]], who like his namesake had come to destroy that he believed in. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}

During his travels across the galaxy, Optimus Prime encountered both [[Vector Prime|Vector]] and [[Nexus Prime]] both of whom expressed surprise that Alpha Trion still lived and wondered if any of their other brothers might still be alive. {{storylink|Transformers: Exiles|Exiles}}

When Unicron stirred, Optimus Prime explained the history of the Thirteen to his human allies. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}

Before Optimus Prime was to die, {{storylink|Predacons Rising (Prime)|Predacons Rising}} the Primes intercepted his [[spark]] and brought him to their [[Realm of the Primes|realm]]. {{storylink|Decepticon Island (Part 1)}}

After his death, Optimus was able to appear to Bumblebee when the Primes deemed the young bot's need was most dire. {{storylink|W.W.O.D.?}} As part of Optimus's training, Micronus challenged him to a test which resulted in him unlocking the capabilities of the [[Prime Decepticon Hunter]]. {{storylink|Out of Focus}} Though Optimus did not fully complete his training, he had six of the Primes in the [[Realm of the Primes]] send him to Earth to deal with the return of Megatronus, {{storylink|Battlegrounds, Part 1}} which he accomplished with the aid of the [[Bee Team (RID)|Bee Team]]. {{storylink|Battlegrounds, Part 2}}

'''Known members:'''
:''See "[[#Covenant Thirteen|Covenant Thirteen]]" above''
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===''Portal'' cartoon===
{{groupstub|{{storylink|Transformers: Portal}}}}

'''Known members:'''
*[[Prima]]
*[[Nexus Prime]]
*[[Quintus Prime]]
*[[Vector Prime]]
*[[Micronus Prime]]

===''Cyberverse'' cartoon===
Legendary figures in Cybertronian society, the Thirteen were the first of the Primes, each having a psychic pillar dedicated to them in the Matrix of Leadership where their spirits persisted after their physical deaths. {{storylink|Dweller In The Depths (Cyberverse)|Dweller In The Depths}} Through this, the bearer of the Matrix could commune with the Thirteen and seek their power and wisdom in times of crisis. {{storylink|Silent Strike}}

In the modern era, the only known members of the Thirteen to survive were [[Alpha Trion]] and [[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]. {{storylink|Dweller In The Depths (Cyberverse)|Dweller In The Depths}} Under unknown circumstances, Alchemist adopted the alias of "[[Maccadam]]" and hid his connection to the group though rumours, ones that [[Bumblebee (Cyberverse)|Bumblebee]] personally didn't buy into, of his true origins circled around. {{storylink|Maccadam's}} Alpha Trion, meanwhile, carried the [[Matrix of Leadership]], seeking to pass it on to a worthy bearer; he eventually found someone worthy in [[Optimus Prime (Cyberverse)|Optimus Prime]], and passed the Matrix on to him after Trion was mortally wounded, inducting him as a Prime. {{storylink|Matrix of Leadership (episode)|Matrix of Leadership}}

'''Known members:'''
:''See "[[#Covenant Thirteen|Covenant Thirteen]]" above''

{{note|The fact that Optimus Prime is not, apparently, an ancient Cybertronian like he is in the [[Aligned continuity family]] makes it unclear how he fits into the Thirteen, despite having one of the thirteen pillars in [[Matrix of Leadership#Alternate universe|a divergent timeline's Matrix]]. ''Cyberverse'' writer [[Mae Catt]] suggested that it was possible that there were additional pillars for other Primes within the Matrix that just happened to be "offscreen".}}

===''EarthSpark'' cartoon===
[[File:Disarmed-TheThirteen.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Solus has been hulking up.]]
The Thirteen Primes established [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]'s culture in its early days. {{storylink|Age of Evolution, Part 1}} One of their number, [[Liege Maximo]], eventually went rogue, seeking to use the Primes' [[Artifacts of the Primes|artifacts]] to turn other planets into sources of [[energon]] and make Cybertron the centre of a galactic empire. The other Primes imprisoned Liege in a "lightless void" and erased all mention of his name from Cybertronian history. {{storylink|Legacy of Hope}}

Eventually, [[Quintus Prime]] left Cybertron, using his [[Emberstone]] to seed life on other planets. {{storylink|Age of Evolution, Part 1}}

During the era of the [[Great War (ES)|Great War]], Liege Maximo managed to escape his prison. Returning to Cybertron, Maximo discovered the [[AllSpark]] and poisoned it with one of his [[Liegian Darts]], preventing it from healing the planet and allowing him to convince those Cybertronians still active on the planet that his plan would restore their world. Still committed to his original plan, Maximo began to hunt down his siblings, slaying them and taking their artifacts for himself. {{storylink|Legacy of Hope}}

When explaining the power of the Primes to the Malto family, [[Optimus Prime (ES)|Optimus Prime]] showed them the [[Matrix of Leadership]], granted to him by the Primes, briefly touching on the history of the Primes and their artifacts. {{storylink|Disarmed}}

When a [[space bridge]] opened to [[Earth]], Maximo sent [[Hot Rod (ES)|Hot Rod]] through to recover the Emberstone and bring it to him. When Optimus Prime led other Autobots into the portal after him, {{storylink|Hometown Heroes}} Maximo captured them, seeking the Matrix. After [[Robby Malto]] had found and removed the Dart that Liege had placed in the AllSpark, allowing it to start healing Cybertron, the Autobots and [[Terran]]s destroyed Maximo's horns, banishing him back to his prison. {{storylink|Legacy of Hope}}

'''Known members:'''
*[[Prima]]
*[[Quintus Prime]]
*[[Liege Maximo]]
*[[Optimus Prime (ES)|Optimus Prime]]

{{note|While the rest of the Primes went unnamed, the existence of [[The Fallen|Megatronus]], [[Nexus Prime]], [[Onyx Prime]], and [[Vector Prime]] was indicated by the Liege Maximo using the [[Requiem Blaster (Thirteen)|Requiem Blaster]], the [[Enigma of Combination]], the [[Triptych Mask]], and the [[Blades of Time]] in "[[Legacy of Hope]]".}}

===''One'' film===
[[File:TransformersOne-ThePrimesholograms.jpg|thumb|300px|'''Hasbro''': "''Power of the Primes'' wasn't that successful. How are we gonna make the Thirteen popular enough to make toys out of them?" 
'''Josh Cooley''': "I'm going to do what's called a pro-gamer move!"]]
The original thirteen Primes were created by [[Primus]] at the dawn of Cybertron, the first Transformers and the leaders of the race's Golden Age. The [[High Guard]] served as their elite bodyguards. The Primes ruled in peace for eons until the Quintessons attacked and threw Cybertron into violent war. The war raged for years until [[Sentinel Prime (One)|Sentinel]], the Primes' secretary, informed them of a secret gathering of Quintesson generals. The Primes, realizing that a decisive attack could decimate enemy leadership and win the war, went as a group to attack the council in a hidden cave. When they arrived, they found a waiting Quintesson ambush. The Primes fought and gained the upper hand when Sentinel betrayed them, stabbing Nexus Prime through his chest, decapitating Megatronus Prime, and using Nexus' weapon to kill several of the others, including Solus Prime and Zeta Prime. Sentinel attempted to take the Matrix of Leadership from Zeta's body, but it rejected him and disintegrated. Instead, Sentinel took Megatronus' [[Transformation cog (biology)|transformation cog]] as his trophy. Sentinel declared himself the new Prime and left to take control of Cybertron, unaware that Alpha Trion survived the battle in stasis. To the public, Sentinel disseminated a cover story in which he was the last survivor of the Primes, the rest of whom died heroically to defeat the Quintessons.

Fifty cycles later, the [[cogless]] miners [[Optimus Prime (One)|Orion Pax]], [[Megatron (One)|D-16]], [[Elita-1 (One)|Elita-1]], and [[Bumblebee (One)|B-127]] discovered the Primes' resting place following an S.O.S. beacon from Trion. They reawakened the sleeping Prime and he recounted Sentinel's betrayal to them, denouncing him as a false Prime, before bestowing them with transformation cogs borrowed from Prima, Alchemist, Micronus, and Onyx. The four left to take the evidence to Iacon while Trion held off Sentinel's forces, killing several Death Trackers before being captured by [[Airachnid (One)|Airachnid]]. Trion was taken to face Sentinel, who gloated with him before killing the Prime for trying to give him a speech.

Later, during a battle with Sentinel's forces, D-16 accidentally shot Orion and allowed him to fall towards Cybertron's core. There, the spirits of the Primes appeared and informed Orion that Primus had chosen him to carry the Matrix of Leadership, and he was reborn as Optimus Prime. While this was happening, D-16 killed Sentinel and took Megatronus' cog for his own. Embittered by Sentinel's misuse of the Primes' legacy to deceive Cybertron into slavery, D-16 declared that there would be no more Primes, and renamed himself Megatron. {{storylink|Transformers One (film)|One}}

'''Known members:'''
{{collist|3|
*[[Prima#One film|Prima Prime]]
*[[The Fallen#One film|Megatronus Prime]]
*[[Alpha Trion#One continuity|Alpha Trion]]
*[[Vector Prime#One film|Vector Prime]]
*[[Solus Prime#One film|Solus Prime]]
*[[Amalgamous Prime#One film|Amalgamous Prime]]
*[[Nexus Prime#One film|Nexus Prime]]
*[[Liege Maximo#One film|Liege Maximo]]
*[[Onyx Prime#One film|Onyx Prime]]
*[[Micronus Prime#One film|Micronus Prime]]
*[[Quintus Prime#One film|Quintus Prime]]
*[[Maccadam#One film|Alchemist Prime]]
*[[Zeta Prime (One)|Zeta Prime]]
}}

===''Age of the Primes'' marketing material===
[[File:AOTP Thirteen Awaken Cybertron Con 2024.jpg|thumb|250px|AWAKEN \ AWAKEN \ AWAKEN \ AWAKEN [[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|SAVE OUR WORLDS]] \ SMITE FORSAKEN]]
The Thirteen Primes were the first Transformers ever made. To a bot, each Transformer could trace their [[Energon bloodline|lineage]] back to one of the Thirteen. They fell into some manner of dormancy at some point, and were awoken by the battles of the Transformers of the present day. {{storylink|Cybertron Con 2024|Age of the Primes reveal cinematic}}

'''Known members:'''
{{collist|3|
*[[Prima|Prima Prime]]
*[[Vector Prime]]
*[[Alpha Trion]]
*[[Solus Prime]]
*[[Micronus Prime]]
*[[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]
*[[Nexus Prime]]
*[[Onyx Prime]]
*[[Amalgamous Prime]]
*[[Quintus Prime]]
*[[Liege Maximo]]
*[[The Fallen|Megatronus the Fallen]]
*[[Thirteenth Prime|Star Optimus Prime]]
}}

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==Games==
===''Transformers: Earth Wars''===
The Thirteen appointed the warrior [[Sentius Nobilius]] to guard [[Artifacts of the Primes|their stuff]], granting him his own holy weapon, the [[Sword of Balance]], for the task. Sentius was betrayed by one of the Primes, who turned his own sword against him to cleave him in two, creating the Relic Guardian of Light, [[Sentius Magnus]], and the Relic Guardian of Darkness, [[Sentius Malus]]. {{storylink|Source:Transformers: Earth Wars/2018#Sentius Magnus|Sentius Magnus bio}} {{storylink|Source:Transformers: Earth Wars/2018#Sentius Malus|Sentius Malus bio}}
{{chargamestub|Nova's backstory, Artifact stuff, more probably}}

====The Prime Core war====
[[File:Earth Wars Megatronus Core.jpg|thumb|upright=0.6]]
{{see|Prime Master#Transformers: Earth Wars}}

The [[Prime Master#Transformers:Earth Wars|Prime Cores]]—each the "heart" of one of the Thirteen Primes—appeared and fell to Earth, becoming a hotly contested new resource in the [[Earth Wars (conflict)|Earth Wars]]. {{storylink|Power of the Primes (Earth Wars)|Power of the Primes}}

{{chargamestub|''Power of the Primes'' storyline (starts with [[Warpath & Skullsmasher Saga]])}}

====The Great Resetting====
[[File:EW-Nova Prime.jpg|thumb|right|250px|]]
Upon [[Vector Prime]]'s arrival into regular spacetime, [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] and [[C.L. (G1)|C.L.]] took only a moment to recognise their saviour as one of the original Thirteen. Vector had broken his vow of non-interference to stop the machinations of his renegade sibling, [[Nova Prime]]. {{storylink|Enemy of My Enemy (Earth Wars)|Enemy of My Enemy}} Vector also approached the time-lost [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], who was very honoured to meet his forebear. {{storylink|Timeless Champions#Vector Prime|Vector Prime arrival}}

{{chargamestub|[[Tarnation|Alpha Trion's saga]], rest of [[Timeless Champions]] and subsequent time warp storyline}}

====The Age of Primes====
{{see|Transformers: Earth Wars#Primes}}
{{chargamestub|{{storylink|New Armada}} {{storylink|Second Armada}} {{storylink|Third Armada}} {{storylink|Prime Relics}}}}

'''Known members:'''
{{collist|3|
*[[Prima]]
*[[The Fallen|Megatronus]]
*[[Alpha Trion]]
*[[Vector Prime]]
*[[Solus Prime]]
*[[Amalgamous Prime]]
*[[Nexus Prime]]
*[[Liege Maximo]]
*[[Onyx Prime]]
*[[Micronus Prime|Micronus]]
*[[Quintus Prime]]
*[[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]
*[[Nova Prime]]
}}
{{-}}

===''Transformers Roleplaying Game''===
Some Transformers theorized that the Thirteen may have been the original combiners. {{storylink|The Enigma of Combination}}
{{Gamestub|{{storylink|Transformers One Sourcebook}}}}

==Toys==
===''Power of the Primes''===
[[File:TF-POTP-Vector-Prime-Prime-Master.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb]]
{{main|Prime Master}}
{{toydesigner|[[John Warden]] and [[Lynsey Urban]] (Hasbro)|[[Robby Musso]] (concept artist), [[Marcelo Matere]] (packaging artist)}}

:The centerpiece of the [[2018]] ''[[Power of the Primes (toyline)|Power of the Primes]]'' line, the Prime Masters represent the [[spark]]s of the Thirteen.

:Largely recycling the engineering of the previous line's "[[Titan Master]]" [[Headmaster (technology)|head guys]], the Prime Masters transform from tiny robots to vague mystical blocks prominently emblazoned with each Prime's [[Insignia/Gallery#Religious symbols|personal sigil]]. They were initially packed on individual cards with "[[Pretender#Power of the Primes|Decoy Armors]]" based on various classic [[Pretender]] characters before becoming pack-ins to various big-ticket box sets as the line reached its conclusion.

:Operating solo, the Prime Masters have the ability to reconfigure with their Decoy Armors into chunky [[Targetmaster (technology)|Targetmaster]]-style weapons for larger figures to wield. When slotted into the chest armor/[[combiner]] fists of the line's Deluxes, forearm bucklers/combiner feet of the Voyagers, the chests of fully assembled combiners in place of their [[Enigma of Combination#Power of the Primes|Enigmas of Combination]], or the [[Matrix of Leadership/toys#Power of the Primes|Matrices]] of the Leader Class figures, the Prime Masters grant the bearer the abilities of their respective Prime via [[Prime Master/Combinations|the power of your imagination]].

:In the toyline's grand finale, twelve of the thirteen Prime Masters can combine with the [[San Diego Comic-Con]]-exclusive [[Throne of the Primes]] to create the almighty plastic spinner wheel known as the [[Halo of Primus]], with the straggler intended to ride in the included [[Optimus Primal (BW)/toys#SDCC2018|Prime-ified Optimus Primal's]] chest or the related [[Scepter of Sparks]].

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===''Legacy''===
[[File:Legacy-A-Hero-Is-Born-Alpha-Trion.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|]]
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|'''A Hero Is Born''' (2-pack, [[2022]]) ([[Alpha Trion/toys#Legacy|Alpha Trion]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#HasbroPulse|Orion Pax]] w/ [[Vector Sigma#Legacy|Vector Sigma]])}}
{{Bp-multi|'''[[Nova Prime#Legacy|Nova Prime]]''' (Leader Class, [[2023]] / [[2025]])}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Vector Prime#Legacy|'''Cybertron Universe Vector Prime''']] (Voyager Class, [[2024]])}}</ul>
{{toydesigner|[[Evan Brooks]] and [[Mark Maher]] (Hasbro), [[Takio Ejima]], [[Takashi Kunihiro]], and [[Yūya Ōnishi]] (TakaraTomy)|[[Lenny Panzica]] (initial concept, Alpha Trion)}}<ref>[https://youtu.be/vuZHDR3ZBd8 Transformers Panel] at [[Hasbro Pulse Con 2022]] Day 1 on the [[Hasbro Pulse]] YouTube channel.</ref><ref>[[April 25]], [[2024]]'s [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s06YE02e844 Hasbro Pulse Transformers Fanstream | April 2024] on YouTube, with [[Ben MacCrae]], [[Mark Maher]] and [[Evan Brooks]].</ref>

:[[Alpha Trion/toys#Legacy|Alpha Trion]] and [[Vector Prime#Legacy|Vector Prime]] both received Voyager Class toys styled after their original solo appearances in the grab-bag ''[[Transformers: Legacy|''Legacy]]'' toyline, retooled from from ''[[Studio Series]]'' [[Scourge (G1)/toys#Studio Series|Scourge]] and the earlier ''Legacy'' [[Jhiaxus (G2)#Legacy|Jhiaxus]] respectively.

:While the figures feature little to no influence from their [[Transformers: The Covenant of Primus|''Covenant'']]-forward depictions, they do nonetheless include mystical doohickies that eventually featured in more Thirteen-centric stories, including Alpha Trion's longstanding conduit to Primus himself [[Vector Sigma#Legacy|Vector Sigma]] and the [[Cyber Key]] later characterized as the [[Zeonomicon#Legacy|Zeonomicon]] that Vector wrested from lesser-known Thirteen member [[Logos Prime]].

:[[Nova Prime#Legacy|Nova Prime]], meanwhile, received a Leader Class toy based on his non-Thirteen appearance in the ''[[Transformers: Devastation|Devastation]]'' video game retooled from ''[[War for Cybertron: Siege|Siege]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#S40|Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime]] (itself retooled from ''Siege'' [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Ultra Magnus]]) that subsequently colored his adventures as a member of the Thirteen in the ''[[Transformers: Earth Wars|Earth Wars]]'' mobile game.

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===''Age of the Primes''===
[[File:TF-Age of the Primes-Solus Prime.jpg|thumb|300px]]
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-pr4|[[Solus Prime#Age of the Primes|'''The Thirteen Solus Prime''']] (Deluxe Class, [[2025]])}}
{{Bp-pr6|[[Maccadam#Age of the Primes|'''The Thirteen Alchemist Prime''']] (Deluxe Class, 2025)}}
{{Bp-pr5|[[Micronus Prime#Age of the Primes|'''The Thirteen Micronus Prime''']] (Deluxe Class, 2025)}}
{{Bp-pr1|[[Prima#Age of the Primes|'''The Thirteen Prima Prime''']] (Voyager Class, 2025)}}
{{Bp-pr3|[[Alpha Trion/toys#Age of the Primes|'''The Thirteen Alpha Trion''']] (Voyager Class, 2025)}}
{{Bp-pr12|[[The Fallen/toys#Age of the Primes|'''The Thirteen Megatronus the Fallen''']] (Leader Class, 2025)}}
{{Bp-pr8|[[Onyx Prime#Age of the Primes|'''The Thirteen Onyx Prime''']] (Leader Class, 2025)}}
{{Bp-pr13|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#Age of the Primes|'''The Thirteen Star Optimus Prime''']] (Titan Class, 2025)}}
{{Bp-pr10|[[Quintus Prime#Age of the Primes|'''The Thirteen Quintus Prime''']] (Deluxe Class, [[2026]])}}
{{Bp-pr9|[[Amalgamous Prime#Age of the Primes|'''The Thirteen Amalgamous Prime''']] (Voyager Class, 2026)}}
{{Bp-pr7|[[Nexus Prime#Age of the Primes|'''The Thirteen Nexus Prime''']] (Voyager Class, 2026)}}
{{Bp-pr11|[[Liege Maximo#Age of the Primes|'''The Thirteen Liege Maximo''']] (Leader Class, 2026)}}
</ul>
:{{toydesigner|[[Mark Maher]] (Hasbro), [[Yūya Ōnishi]], [[Shuhei Umezu]], [[Takashi Kunihiro]], [[Shogo Hasui]], and [[Hisashi Yuki]] (TakaraTomy)|[[Marcelo Matere]] (concept artist), [[Aaron Archer]] and [[Ken Christiansen]] (original concepts)}}

:Seven years after ''Power of the Primes'', hot off the heels of their role in ''Transformers One'', the Thirteen return to toy store shelves in the ''[[Transformers: Age of the Primes|Age of the Primes]]'' in full force as full-scale figures remixing aspects of their various depictions into "definitive" versions, [[Artifacts of the Primes|artifacts]], personal insignias and all.

:All Thirteen Primes are slated for production within the bounds of this two-year toyline with [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Generation 1 Optimus Prime]] in his [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#The Battlestars manga and story pages|Star <s>Convoy</s> Optimus Prime form]] cast in the role of the [[Thirteenth Prime|normally mysterious 13th member]], using the [[Zodiac]] as his artifact equivalent.<ref>{{citesocial|quote=The best part of the next 2 years is, you’ll not only collect the 13 primes but theres an amazing plethora of bots that are all descendents of the primes, you can collect them all, finish mini collections, and guess their energon bloodline.|link=https://www.instagram.com/p/DC2tKXARTg3/|name=Mark Maher|site=Instagram|year=2024|month=11|day=26}}</ref> All of their figures (barring [[Vector Prime]], who received [[#Legacy|a toy]] in the immediately preceding ''[[Transformers: Legacy#United|United]]'' [[subline imprint]] of the ''Legacy'' toyline) are new molds for the line,<ref>{{citesocial|quote=All 13 primes will be present but it will be broken over two years. They are all new molds (except vector)|link= https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/2025-generations-listings-united-wave-5-age-of-the-primes.1259609/page-965#post-22925515|name=Evan Brooks|site=Instagram|year=2024|month=12|day=8}}</ref> and those released in wave 1 have no currently-planned reuses (a rarity for the ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' toyline).<ref>{{citesocial|quote=As for Prima, there currently no plans for retools of those primes molds|link=https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/2025-generations-listings-united-wave-5-age-of-the-primes.1259609/page-1080#post-22950126|name=Evan Brooks|site=Instagram|year=2024|month=12|day=18}}</ref>

{{comingsoontoy|Nexus and Maximo}}

==Merchandise==
{{toystub|The inordinate amount of Thirteen swag produced by Hasbro Asia for ''Age of the Primes''}}

==Notes==
[[File:End of G1 Universe Thirteen Circle.jpg|thumb|right|300px|The [[Halo of Primus|Halo]] of [[Mortilus]], more like.]]
*The notion of the Primes being originally huge is similar to early ''Revenge of the Fallen'' concepts where the Fallen dwarfed Optimus and was almost the size of a pyramid, as evident from [[Defiance issue 4|''Defiance'' #4]] and the [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (novel)|novelization]].
*Brand mainstay [[Marcelo Matere]] purportedly designed the Thirteen's [[Insignia/Gallery#Religious symbols|sigils]] for the ''[[Power of the Primes (franchise)|Power of the Primes]]'' franchise in a ''single day''.<ref>"Spotlight: Marcelo Matere" panel at TFNation 2025</ref>
*It feels somewhat implausible that the paranormal beings [[Blue Bolts (RID)|Bluebolt]] invokes in her botched attempt at reviving [[Lio Convoy|Leo Prime]] from the dead in the [[Dark Amber Leo Prime (First)|first issue]] of ''[[The Transformers: End of G1 Universe|End of G1 Universe]]'' are intended to be the same group as the power-mad bureaucrats the duo were just brawling with in [[Age of Primes (End of G1 Universe)|issue #3]], but hey, we just work here. Presumably author [[Hayato Sakamoto]] did not expect to be hawking an entire Thirteen-centric toyline in the form of [[2026]]'s ''[[Transformers: Age of the Primes|Age of the Primes]]'' when slipping in the [[Halo of Primus]] for a cheeky ''Power of the Primes'' reference in [[2022]].
*[[Alpha Trion]], [[Vector Prime]] and [[Nova Prime]]'s character models in the ''[[Transformers: Earth Wars|Earth Wars]]'' mobile game's tie-in story arc for ''[[Transformers: Age of the Primes|Age of the Primes]]'' are all [[Show-accuracy|heavily styled after]] their respective ''[[Transformers: Legacy|Legacy]]'' toys.
**Somewhat unsurprisingly those Primes introduced since ([[The Fallen|Megatronus]] and [[Solus Prime|Solus]] as of this writing) have used their designs from ''Age of the Primes'' proper.
===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Saisho no Jūsannin no Prime''' (最初の13人のプライム, "Original 13 Primes")
*''Mandarin:'' '''Shísān Tiānyuán''' (十三天元, “Thirteen Ancestral Primes”)
*''Turkish:'' '''On Üç''' ("Thirteen")

==See also==
*[[Covenant (group)|Covenant]]
*[[Ancient]]
*[[Primus Vanguard]]

==References==
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Alientraveller: /* EarthSpark cartoon */ added a note on the other four Primes whose artifacts appeared in the finale

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[[File:Original13.jpg|center|upright=4.5|thumb|Guess the one on fire!]]

According to legend, the '''Thirteen''' were the original [[Transformer]]s created by [[Primus]] at the dawn of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]'s history. Rightfully huge and powerful, each member of the Thirteen, the first Transformers to bear the rank of "[[Prime (rank)|Prime]]", <ref>A Hasbro Q&A response would later try to alter this. See "[[#Conceptual history|Conceptual history]]."</ref> possessed unique abilities and wielded [[Artifacts of the Primes|weapons and artifacts]] of great power—indeed, some say that these thirteen Transformers formed the fundamental "archetypes" that all future generations of Transformers would imprint themselves upon.

Across the ''Transformers'' [[multiverse]], the origins, history, and even the full lineup of the Thirteen are shrouded in myth and legend. However, most historical accounts agree that the Thirteen walked Cybertron for a time until a betrayal forever shattered their ranks; the survivors of this epic conflict fled into deep space, retreated into private metaphysical realms, or simply faded into the annals of history, content to leave their very existence an open question to contemporary Transformers. Real or not, the ancient relics they left behind are still powerful enough to alter the course of Cybertronian history.

Although the Thirteen helped lay the groundwork for contemporary Cybertronian civilization, they also left behind a complicated legacy for their descendants to untangle—the story of the Thirteen is one of heroic victories and heinous cruelties, and their fall is a cautionary tale of hubris, passion, and naivety. Indeed, when the remaining members of the Thirteen resurface in the modern era, these old wounds have a habit of flaring up again...

{{bigquote|We are the 13, the first, the forgotten, each of us serving a function vital to the survival of the universe. Each of us designated a [[Prime (rank)|Prime]] and given a function to serve during the long march of infinity.|[[Vector Prime]]|"[[Vector Prime: In the Beginning]]"}}

==Conceptual history==
[[File:BW Covenant.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1|The [[Covenant (group)|Covenant]] shares the same base concept with the Thirteen, and served as their prototype.]]
The concept of the Thirteen wasn't introduced until around 20 years into the ''Transformers'' brand's history, and the slow drip-feeding of information that characterized the early stages of their story has not been presented in a very linear manner. The development of the concept is described in this section to minimize confusion; for details of their history and actions in specific bits of fiction, see below.

[[File:Vectorprimeut.jpg|thumb|upright=1|[[Vector Prime]] was a prominent member of the early Thirteen.]]
The very earliest seeds of the Thirteen can be found in material produced by [[3H Productions]] for [[BotCon]], most notably 1999's "[[Covenant (story)|Covenant]]". Written by [[Simon Furman]], this story introduces the undeniably similar concept of the [[Covenant (group)|Covenant]], a group of twelve zodiac-themed robots who are the first creations of [[Primus]], created as a test-run for the Transformer race. Despite the basic similarity between the Covenant and the Thirteen, there was no canonical connection between the two groups, aside from an ambiguous [[Ask Vector Prime]] entry published much later in 2015, which presented several different interpretations of how the groups might be related. Certainly, those same stories by 3H were incompatible with later lore of the Thirteen, as they introduced [[Primon]], a Matrix-bearer who preceded [[Prima]].

It was in the pages of 2004's ''[[Transformers: The Ultimate Guide]]'' that the mysterious "Thirteen Original Transformers" were first spoken of, and their basic origin was laid down: they were the first Transformers created by Primus to battle Unicron, and their number included Prima, the first [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]]-bearer from the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel Comics series]]; [[The Fallen]], an enigmatic servant of Unicron from [[Dreamwave Productions]]' 2003 comic, ''[[Transformers: War Within: The Dark Ages|War Within: The Dark Ages]]''; and the [[Liege Maximo]], an ancient evil [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian]] from the [[Transformers: Generation 2 (Marvel)|''Generation 2'' comics]] (whose implied status as one of the first Transformers had previously been affirmed only in Furman's unofficial novella, ''[[Alignment]]''). The book also contained a passing mention that the enigmatic [[Maccadam|manager]] of [[Maccadam's Old Oil House]], a Cybertronian pub introduced in the UK Generation 1 Marvel Comics, was rumored to be one of the Thirteen (though it also admits that this could be a fabrication by the pub's drunken patrons). Not surprisingly, it was the creator of all four of these characters—the aforementioned Simon Furman—who both wrote the guide and conceived the idea of the Thirteen,<ref>Simon Furman panel, BotCon 2012</ref> recycling the same general idea behind the Covenant.<ref>Simon Furman at BotCon 2022.</ref>

The concept of the Thirteen quietly bubbled under for the next year, until another element was added with the introduction of [[Vector Prime]] in 2005's ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]'' series. Created by lead Hasbro designer [[Aaron Archer]], Vector Prime was given a clockwork aesthetic to signify his old age and mastery over time itself, with his face evoking the [[Autobot]] sigil. While the original Japanese version of the ''Cybertron'' cartoon would simply treat him as a very ancient Autobot, Hasbro copywriter [[Forest Lee]] would canonise him as one of the Thirteen in [[Vector Prime: In the Beginning|the first story]] produced for the [[Transformers Collectors' Club]]. This story also introduced the idea that all of the Thirteen were [[Prime (rank)|Primes]], and that each had a specific function or purpose; Vector Prime's was stewardship of time, while a 2007 [[bio]] written for The Fallen's ''[[Titanium Series]]'' toy would later reveal he was the overseer of entropy.

[[File:ThirteenAaronArcherSketch.jpg|thumb|upright=1.2|The roster of the Thirteen was not established from the outset.]]
While it was not immediately apparent, Hasbro had put a plan in motion for the Thirteen with the Collectors' Club comic: across the next five years, five separate robots were introduced who were gradually revealed to be components of the very first combiner, Nexus Prime, who was one of the Thirteen. Behind the scenes, Aaron Archer developed the remaining roster of the Thirteen, carrying forward Prima, The Fallen (whose true name became Megatronus), Liege Maximo, and Vector Prime, and adding [[Alpha Trion]], the Autobot elder from [[The Transformers (cartoon)|the original cartoon]]. The new members he introduced were intended to embody different kinds of Transformers: [[Onyx Prime]] (at first named simply "Maximus", after the [[Maximal]]s) represented the beasts, [[Micronus Prime|Micronus]] was the progenitor of the [[Mini-Con]]s, [[Quintus Prime|Quintus]] was tied to the [[Quintesson]]s, with a Japan-inspired "trickster", a female "forger" ([[Solus Prime]]), and an "elemental" proto-Transformer filling out the group.<ref>{{citesocial|quote=Really we were trying to create a representation of each of the classic Transformer forms. So as I was creating the Thirteen, some had been figured out, right? So Megatronus I think, Liege Maximo, Alpha Trion I believe were already named characters... but then I tried to figure out how to bring the concept of beasts and combiners [and the Mini-Cons] and different elements into the concept, so that you had the whole pantheon of gods, different shapes and sizes and whatnot. So I went through and I drew kind of visions of what they could be. So this is not trying to figure the character out, but get the vibe of what the character was about, other talented people would come in behind me and do that. So there's like the idea that—why did the Quintessons think that they might have made the Transformers? Well they come from the guy that was like the Johnny Appleseed, or the character that seeded some of the planets, so they were confused... try to shore up some of these ideas for the Aligned continuity, right? Here's an elemental kind of concept, gears and metal and magnetism, kind of a proto-Transformer, kind of weird thing. [...] Here's another weird version of Megatronus, how big he is compared to like what Megatron would have been.|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQLQ4VzuCGA&t=689s|name=Aaron Archer|site=''The Toy Armada''|title=Toy Armada Friday night LIVE: Creating characters and lore|year=2023|month=05|day=26}}</ref> While most of these are recognisable in the final roster, it appears that the design from the "elemental" was given to the "trickster" character, resulting in [[Amalgamous Prime]], while [[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]] took over as the Prime of the elements. Additionally, [[Thirteenth Prime|one member]] of the group would remain a mystery.

[[File:NexusPrimeflankedbyotherPrimes.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1|Fun Publications also introduced the first [[combiner]], [[Nexus Prime]].]]
While these plans developed, Japanese writer [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]] introduced the character of [[Logos Prime]] in the 2006 text story ''[[Beast Wars Reborn]]'', which seemingly alluded to the idea that he was one of the Thirteen by presenting him as a peer to Vector Prime. Ichikawa did not intend this reading, however, believing it was not his place to add to the Thirteen.<ref>{{citesocial|quote=Vector PrimeとThe Fallen以外の人影は全く誰のことも想定していません。ファンの方々は「1人はLogos Primeだ」と推察していますが、それも間違いです（彼を勝手に13人とするのは図々しく不適当と感じたので、そうしたくなかった）。満足いく答えではないかも知れませんが、これが本当のところです。🙇‍♂️|link=https://twitter.com/Hirovmi/status/1627056614024036352|name=Hirofumi Ichikawa|site=Twitter|year=2023|month=02|day=18}}</ref> But fans who were aware of the character at the time latched onto the idea of Logos as one of Thirteen, unaware that that wasn't meant to be the case.

During this time, most of the information on the Thirteen came from Q&A sessions with Hasbro representatives at BotCon—where it was established that the Thirteen were [[multiversal singularity|multiversal singularities]], a concept which purported that across all the different [[universal stream]]s, only one incarnation of each of the Thirteen existed, moving between worlds. This idea would later be canonized within the pages of Fun Publications' comics. The full story of the Thirteen was to be told in a comic book mini-series by [[IDW Publishing]], written by Simon Furman, but after numerous teases the plans were eventually nixed while Hasbro worked out what they wanted to do with the characters.<ref>{{citesocial|quote=The Thirteen is probably not going to happen for a while, as it’s become more of a Hasbro thing than an IDW thing, and Hasbro need to crystallise the whole concept before it can be turned into a comic book. I think and hope it will still happen, as it’s a story I’d dearly love to tell, but I have no firm grasp or when or in what form it will eventually see print.|link=http://web.archive.org/web/20110612025753/https://hombreimaginario.deviantart.com/art/Interviews-10-Simon-Furman-130246343|name=Simon Furman|site=deviantART|year=2009|month=07|day=20}}</ref> Hasbro's desire to control and fully conceptualize the story of the Thirteen was further made evident when, after [[Fun Publications]]' Nexus Prime story concluded in the same year, they effectively took "custody" of the character as part of their future plans.[[File:TransformersVault-Prima.jpg|thumb|upright=0.75|The Aligned design for [[Prima]] was revealed at [[BotCon 2010]].]] This control, however, was evidently not all-encompassing, as The Fallen made a surprising appearance in [[2009]] as the titular villain of the second live-action ''Transformers'' film, ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'', where he not only received new backstory that removed any connection he had to Unicron, but was also presented as a member of only ''seven'' Primes instead of thirteen. Hasbro's [[Hasbro Q&A/October 2009#AllSpark.com|October 2009 online Q&A]] attempted to retroactively justify this by explaining that while all the Thirteen were Primes, only seven actually had the word "Prime" ''in their names''. However, this rationale wouldn't last.

Eventually, in 2010, the grand scope of the new [[Aligned continuity family]] became the "delivery method" for Hasbro's long-percolating tale of the Thirteen. However, the "Aligned" continuity was also established to ''not'' be part of the multiverse in which all preceding ''Transformers'' fiction took place, which until then had lain the groundwork for the Thirteen. As such, the new information introduced by the Aligned continuity was only true for ''that'' continuity, resulting in some incongruities: the surprise inclusion of [[Alpha Trion]], the inevitable omission of Logos Prime, and a second revised backstory for The Fallen that, like in ''Revenge of the Fallen'', further dissociated him from Unicron. From 2010 to 2013, various pieces of Aligned media—including the novels ''[[Transformers: Exodus]]'' and ''[[Transformers: Exiles]]'', the ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' cartoon, and the prose work ''[[Transformers: The Covenant of Primus]]''—finally detailed in full the complete roster and history of the Thirteen in the Aligned Continuity, which can all be read about further down this article.

In spite of the metaphysical complexities that had built up with the lore surrounding the ''Transformers'' multiverse and its singularities, Hasbro's Aligned roster for the Thirteen has pretty much served as the basis of every story they've appeared in since. In 2014, they were introduced to IDW Publishing's long-running continuity, receiving a whole new backstory beginning with [[The Crucible|''Robots in Disguise'' #34]]. Fun Publications would work to massage the continuity implications this had for the rest of the multiverse: Ask Vector Prime revealed that non-singularity versions of the Thirteen also exist within the multiverse (with the "Aligned Thirteen" being one such example) and finally established their own complete roster for the "Multiverse Thirteen", before the 2015 Collectors' Club comic storyline ''[[Another Light]]'' culminated in the Thirteen's existence as multiversal singularities being nullified entirely. Freed from the complex bounds of this concept, the story of the Thirteen is now free to be told any way, in any continuity.
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==Members==
Because of their complicated fictional natures, conceptual histories, and status as multiversal "archetypes", {{SITENAME SHORT}} opts to break our standard rules a little and give most members of the group a single article that covers all different versions of that character, as opposed to separate articles (G1, Unicron Trilogy, Movie, etc...) for each incarnation.

===Covenant Thirteen===
[[File:OneShallRise1-WellofAllSparks.jpg|thumb|325px|"No, Harry, no! Don't look at the light!" "I can't help it! It's so beautiful!"]]
The first full lineup of the Thirteen was originally formalized for the [[Aligned continuity family]], and properly revealed in [[2013]]<nowiki>'</nowiki>s ''[[Transformers: The Covenant of Primus]]''. The "Aligned Thirteen" were initially considered to be separate from the pre-existing "multiversal Thirteen", something backed up in fiction which described their [[universal stream|universal cluster]] as being previously separate from the multiverse. This proved not to last long outside the Multiverse Thirteen's own stories, however, and the core list (give or take [[Thirteenth Prime|a guy]]) has since rapidly propagated far beyond the bounds of Aligned media into such places as the [[2005 IDW continuity|2005]] and [[2019 IDW continuity|2019]] continuities of [[IDW Publishing]]'s comics as mentioned above, multiple yearly themes of the ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' ur-franchise, and even [[Transformers One (film)|the big screen]] to become the definitive roster of the modern day.

<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-pr1|'''[[Prima]]'''—The leader of the Thirteen, a warrior of light and the first [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix-bearer]] who wielded the [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|Star Saber]].}}
{{Bp-pr2|'''[[Vector Prime]]'''—The master of time and space, which he could manipulate through his [[Blades of Time]].}}
{{Bp-pr3|'''[[Alpha Trion]]'''—Holder of the [[Quill]], which he uses to record the past, present, and future of Cybertron in the [[Covenant of Primus]] as part of his role as recordskeeper of the Primes.}}
{{Bp-pr4|'''[[Solus Prime]]'''—The master artificer and creator of many of the Primes' weapons through use of her incredible [[Forge of Solus Prime|Forge]]. She was the first [[female Transformer|female Cybertronian]].}}
{{Bp-pr5|'''[[Micronus Prime]]'''—The conscience of the Thirteen, and the first [[Mini-Con]], able to [[Powerlinx|link up with and enhance the power]] of his siblings through the use of his [[Chimera Stone]].}}
{{Bp-pr6|'''[[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]'''—Student of the elemental structure of the natural world, aided in this by his [[Lenses]], which allowed him to see further and deeper than anyone, in both material and spiritual senses; fond of the occasional tipple, with some claiming that he still walks Cybertron in the form of a humble bartender.}}
{{Bp-pr7|'''[[Nexus Prime]]'''—The first and greatest [[combiner]], granted the ability to divide himself into separate forms by his [[Enigma of Combination]]. Unpredictable, fascinated by change, and a lighthearted prankster.}}
{{Bp-pr8|'''[[Onyx Prime]]'''—The first [[beast_mode|beast-form]] Cybertronian, a primitive and spiritual being able to view other times, places, souls, and even the afterlife through his three-faced [[Triptych Mask]].}}
{{Bp-pr9|'''[[Amalgamous Prime]]'''—The joker of the Thirteen and the first [[Shifter]], unpredictable and easygoing. He was the first Cybertronian with the ability of [[transformation]], granted him by his [[Transformation Cog (Thirteen)|Transformation Cog]], which became the basis for the cogs in all subsequent Transformer life.}}
{{Bp-pr10|'''[[Quintus Prime]]'''—A daydreamer and perfectionist whose drive to express his ideas led him to become a scientist. His artifact was the [[Emberstone]], which gave him the ability to create life; the [[Quintesson]]s were among his creations.}}
{{Bp-pr11|'''[[Liege Maximo]]'''—The "Prime of Lies", a black-hearted and amoral manipulator. Though his artifact was notionally the toxin-loaded [[Liegian Darts]], his real skill was his ability to talk others into his way of thinking.}}
{{Bp-pr12|'''[[The Fallen]]'''—Once known as '''Megatronus''', guardian of entropy and wielder of the [[Requiem Blaster (Thirteen)|Requiem Blaster]], the Fallen's name was stricken from history when the dark warrior turned on his siblings.}}
{{Bp-pr13|'''The [[Thirteenth Prime]]'''— the last and most mysterious of the Thirteen, all we can say for certain is that he bore a strong connection to the [[Matrix of Leadership]] and his depictions look [[Optimus Prime (disambiguation)|awfully familiar...]]}}</ul>

===Multiversal Thirteen===
[[File:AnotherLight-Thirteen.jpg|thumb|325px|Who are we? You'll never know!]]
Though the "multiversal Thirteen"—considered separate to the "Aligned Thirteen"—had almost half of their members revealed long before any non-multiversal incarnation was ever mentioned, the remainder of their membership was left ambiguous until a [[Source:Ask Vector Prime/Facebook#ThirteenList|June 2015 Facebook post]] from [[Ask Vector Prime]] listed off twelve of Vector Prime's siblings. The members established before either full roster were:

*'''[[Prima]]'''—The first [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix-bearer]] and first Transformer born from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], the leader of the Thirteen.<ref>''Sentinel Prime was one of a dynasty of Primes, stretching back to the original '''13 Transformers''' and their leader, Prima.''—''[[Transformers: The Ultimate Guide]]'' (2005) 1st ed p15, "Sentinel Prime"</ref> He wielded the [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|Star Saber]], a mighty blade capable of unparalleled destruction.
*'''[[Liege Maximo]]'''—A legendary schemer.<ref name="askvectorprime">[[Ask Vector Prime]] on Facebook</ref>
*'''[[The Fallen|Megatronus]]'''—Formerly the guardian of entropy, whose name was stricken from history when he betrayed his brothers and became a [[Herald of Unicron]] under the new name "'''The Fallen'''".<ref>''[[Transformers: The Ultimate Guide]]''</ref>
*'''[[Vector Prime]]'''—The guardian of space and time, who spent most of his life outside of reality, observing it and occasionally stepping in to help.
*'''[[Nexus Prime]]'''—The first combiner and the guardian of [[Rarified Energon]].

To these Vector Prime added four invented by the Covenant:

*'''[[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]'''—Rumored to have established [[Maccadam's Old Oil House|a bar]] on modern Cybertron, seeking to provide a respite from endless war.<ref name="askvectorprime"/>
*'''[[Solus Prime]]'''—A renowned smith who wielded a powerful [[Forge of Solus Prime|Forge]].<ref name="askvectorprime"/>
*'''[[Micronus Prime]]'''—The progenitor of the [[Mini-Con]]s.<ref>[[Rook - Axiom Nexus News: Investigative Journalist]]</ref>
*'''[[Onyx Prime]]'''—In-tune with nature and the organic.<ref name="askvectorprime"/>

And four other powerful figures from ''Transformers'' lore:

*'''[[Last Autobot|Autonomous Maximus]]'''—A lonely sentinel who renounced his name, becoming simply known as the Last Autobot.
*'''[[Logos Prime]]'''—An enigmatic figure who, operating in the present day under the name "Soundblaster", sought to pass on his incredible powers over time and space to an heir.
*'''[[Solomus]]'''—A gentle and kind individual, who is instead in some universes a member of the [[Guiding Hand]].
*'''[[Epistemus]]'''—A Cybertronian of unconventional intellect, also sometimes of the Guiding Hand.

===Other members===
Additional or alternative members of the Thirteen have been known to crop up, initially in subsequent Ask Vector Prime entries to illustrate the malleable nature of the multiverse:

*'''[[Adaptus]]'''—Blessed with powers of change, ''also'' sometimes of the Guiding Hand; may or may not in some universes be the same individual as Amalgamous Prime.
*'''[[Mortilus]]'''—A solitary member of the Thirteen who stayed apart from the others, who was in some universes a member of the Guiding Hand.

Or, in the modern day, via creators taking advantage of the "free space" offered by the Thirteenth Prime in the Covenant lineup:

*'''[[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]]'''—A Prime known for his wisdom.<ref>''[[Transformers: Titans Return (cartoon)|Transformers: Titans Return]]'' episode 4, "[[Overlord and Emissary]]"</ref>
*'''[[Zeta Prime (One)|Zeta Prime]]'''—A Prime that in some universes takes the role as leader and first Matrix-bearer from Prima.<ref>''[[Transformers One (film)|Transformers One]]''</ref>
*'''[[Nova Prime]]'''—A supremacist willing to break any taboo to position the Transformers as the "rightful rulers" of the multiverse. Referred to derisively by his fellow Primes as "'''The Nemesis'''."<ref>''[[Transformers: Earth Wars]]'', "[[Timeless Champions]]"</ref>

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 continuity family===
====Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity====
[[File:Thefallen.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|No, seriously guys, is it just me, or is it hot in here?]]

[[The Fallen]] was thwarted in his attempt to sabotage [[Primus]]'s [[Cybertron (planet)|physical form]], and the rest of the Thirteen died after casting the Fallen and his master [[Unicron]] through a [[black hole (phenomenon)|black hole]] into another dimension. {{storylink|Transformers: The Ultimate Guide|The Ultimate Guide}}

After [[Optimus Prime (G1)#Dreamwave Generation One continuity|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (G1)#Dreamwave Generation One continuity|Megatron]] were lost in a [[space bridge]] explosion, the Fallen was free from his prison in [[unspace|underspace]], and returned to Cybertron. He immediately set about trying to undo the [[Seal of Primus]] that locked the Well of All Sparks. However, upon his success, the Fallen was promptly destroyed by his reawoken creator. {{storylink|Transformers: War Within: The Dark Ages|The Dark Ages}}

{{Unreleased DW G1 comic}}
In the present day, Jetfire discovered that Shockwave had broken the Seal for his cloning experiments. The Fallen's essence escaped and corrupted [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]], and following his death, passed into Jetfire. This corruption caused Jetfire to be plagued by many visions, among them The Fallen beating down his brethren in an ancient battle. {{storylink|The Enemy Within}}

'''Known members:'''
*[[Prima]]
*[[The Fallen]]
*[[Maccadam]] (rumored)
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====2005 IDW continuity====
[[File:Heavy-TheThirteen.jpg|thumb|left|350px|"I think the Thirteen were blurry, that's the problem. It's not the artist's fault. The Primes were blurry, and that's extra scary to me. There were thirteen large, out-of-focus Transformers roaming Cybertron."]]
After the departure of the mythical [[Knights of Cybertron]], Cybertronian civilization, deprived of their benevolent guidance, descended once more into a primitive state of barbarism, with lesser tribal leaders carving out kingdoms and territories of their own. It was to this landscape that the [[Decepticon]] [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Shockwave]] was cast back in time by the destruction of his [[chronal drive]], and—after an encounter with a kindly shepherd named [[Onyx Prime|Onyx]]—realised from his extensive historical foreknowledge that he could study why Cybertronians inevitably fell to war by ensuring that history followed the path he knew that it must. As such, Shockwave murdered Onyx and took his identity as "Onyx Prime" in order to engineer the rise of the Thirteen Primes; his first act was to christen the most fearless member of Onyx's flock as "[[The Fallen|Megatronus]]", taking him on as a student.

Knowing that Megatronus's conquests would be the impetus for the founding of Cybertronian civilization, Shockwave allowed his pupil to run amok; {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}} Megatronus thus began a new war of conquest to expand the [[Darklands]], annexing nearby regions such as the city of [[Protihex|Protohex]] and the [[Forgotten Plains]], murdering neighbouring ruler [[Septimus Prime]] and recruiting the fearsome twin [[gladiatorial combat|gladiators]] [[Galvatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Galvatron]] and [[Arcee (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Arcee]] to become his vanguards. Other tribal leaders who had arisen, including [[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]], [[Vector Prime]], [[Solus Prime]], [[Nexus Prime]] and [[Alpha Trion]], agreed in the face of Megatronus's conquests to work together, uniting their followers and founding a small village that they named "[[Crystal City]]." {{storylink|Origin Myths}}

[[File:OP18 Thirteen in Crystal City.jpg|thumb|right|375px|Ruling from an ivory tower. What could possibly go wrong?]]

While Megatronus's legions marched on Crystal City, the united Primes were bolstered by Onyx Prime and his ''other'' student, [[Liege Maximo]], {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}} whose kingdom had been claimed by the Darklander advance. The two armies met in a battle that had the unexpected side effect of awakening three slumbering [[Titan (group)|Titan]]s—[[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]], [[Metrotitan (G1)|Metrotitan]], and [[Chela]]—from beneath Cybertron's surface, but while the armies were distracted by the arrival of the colossal beings, Onyx "realized" that their enemy was his "old friend" Megatronus. The two armies agreed to a truce, and all eight Primes vowed to work together to rebuild and unify their planet. Having been enlightened on the value of myths and stories by Alpha Trion, Onyx Prime began telling tales of his own, inspiring Alchemist with legends of a "Chosen One" and dreaming up a new [[Autobot|insignia]] to commemorate their alliance—{{storylink|Origin Myths}} all, of course, based on his own knowledge of what the future held. The [[Dark Cybertron (prophecy)|"Dark Cybertron" prophecy]] and idea of the Chosen One were specifically concocted to ensure [[Starscream (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Starscream]]'s future rise to power, as a "fool" like Starscream would not be able to see through Shockwave's machinations. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 4: The Hallowing|The Hallowing}}

The eight original Primes were soon joined by five more, and over time Cybertron's inhabitants united under the banner of the [[Thirteen Tribes]], each Prime building a distinct civilization. {{storylink|The Crucible}} In this era of peace, the Liege Maximo was responsible for building and maintaining the alliance between the Thirteen; in honor of his feats, Liege Maximo's followers became known as skilled diplomats and negotiators. {{storylink|Heavy}} Each Prime commanded the loyalty of at least one [[Titan (group)|Titan]], {{storylink|The Sum and Its Parts}} {{storylink|First Contact (IDW)|First Contact}} while the diminutive [[Titan Master]]s served as their heralds. {{storylink|White Heat}} Over the years, however, the decidedly mortal Primes had come to believe that they were inherently superior to other Cybertronians due to their powerful artifacts and historic feats; indeed, it was commonly held only another Prime could kill a Prime, though this was decidedly untrue. {{storylink|Origin Myths}} {{storylink|The Crucible}}

[[File:TheFirstWhoWasNamed-MegatronusKillsSolus.jpg|thumb|left|350px|Sephiroth, you jerk!]]
With Cybertron now in a "golden age", Onyx advised the Thirteen's leader [[Prima]] to spread Cybertron's "enlightenment" to other worlds, with their expedition—led by Onyx and Megatronus, with Alpha Trion accompanying them as recordskeeper—being the first to leave the planet since the Knights of Cybertron. However, their first planetary landing on the world of [[Antilla]] ended in a brutal conflict and the extinction of the native [[Antillan]]s, with Prima blaming Megatronus for the expedition's failure. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}} {{storylink|Our Finest}} Liege Maximo, who (seeing helpful lies as more beneficent than harmful truths) had become increasingly manipulative and self-serving, {{storylink|Heavy}} acted on Onyx's orders to stoke Megatronus's resentment over this incident, leading him to attack Prima. Solus Prime intervened to save Prima's life, but Megatronus killed her with the [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|Star Saber]] that she had created. Megatronus fled the planet, while Liege Maximo was captured by the Primes and imprisoned within his Titan, [[Vigilem]], whom the other Titans deemed unworthy of remembrance and exiled into space. A repentant splinter of Liege Maximo's old tribe agreed to keep their former leader and his Titan permanently interred, renaming their dormant Titan "[[Vigilem|Carcer]]". {{storylink|Rubicon}} {{storylink|Heavy}} {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

The fallout from Maximo's betrayal sparked the [[First Cybertronian Civil War]], turning the tribes against one another in a planet-wide conflict. {{storylink|The Crucible}} Battle lines were drawn, but allegiances shifted throughout the war, necessitating betrayals and new alliances; Onyx initially allied with Micronus, {{storylink|White Heat}} but by ten million years ago, with the war drawing to a close, his tribe of [[beast mode]] Transformers had joined forces with Nexus Prime and his [[combiner]]s. Together, they raised a new army of [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] using the [[Enigma of Combination]]. Disgusted by this fusion, [[Galvatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Galvatron]] abandoned his post in Megatronus' army to slaughter the Headmasters to the last 'bot. {{storylink|Earthfall Part 3: The Mind Bomb|The Mind Bomb}}

Together, Onyx Prime and Prima hunted down Megatronus aboard Prima's Titan [[Emissary (IDW)|Emissary]], finding him on the planet [[Tsiehshi]]. Megatronus killed Prima before being slain by Onyx, his usefulness to Shockwave's machinations at an end; Emissary carried Prima's body to the stars, but Onyx ensured that he would crash on [[Elonia|a faraway planet]]. On returning, Onyx told Alpha Trion that Megatronus and Prima slew each other in final battle—the account of their deaths that he had learned from Trion in his youth. Megatronus's name was soon forgotten by history, and he became known only as "the Fallen". {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

Eventually, Galvatron tracked down and confronted Nexus Prime, obliterating the Prime with a single blast. Realizing that they were as mortal as any other Transformer, the remaining few Primes fled the planet for other worlds, with the exception of Alpha Trion. The war finally ended when Galvatron and [[Nova Prime|Nova Major]] famously routed the bestial hordes of [[Onyx Prime]] and, with Trion's aid and blessing, united the tribes as one planet under Nova '''Prime'''. Only Galvatron and Trion were left aware of what had happened to the Thirteen Primes; Alpha Trion simply let himself fade into the background of Cybertronian society, his true background as a Prime forgotten by the general populace. {{storylink|The Crucible}}

One way or another, the Thirteen departed Cybertron and vanished from history at around the same time that the thirteen Titans departed Cybertron, with the intent of founding new colonies elsewhere in the galaxy. {{storylink|First Contact (IDW)|First Contact}} Exact details are unclear, but the mythologies of several of these colony planets claim that the Primes, including [[Solus Prime]] and [[Onyx Prime]], had spearheaded the colonization missions themselves and subsequently left these newly settled worlds to their own devices. {{storylink|The Sum and Its Parts}} {{storylink|Windblade vol. 2 issue 6|Windblade vol. 2 #6}} Either way, the developing civilizations on the colony worlds – cut off from Cybertron and the brutal injustices committed by Nova Prime and [[Nominus Prime|his]] [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|dubious]] [[Zeta Prime (G1)|successors]] – began deifying the Thirteen Primes, with some going so far as to worship any leader who wielded the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. The [[Way of Flame|dominant religion]] on [[Caminus (planet)|Caminus]] exalted Solus Prime as the greatest of the Thirteen, {{storylink|The Sum and Its Parts}} while the four tribes of [[Jungle Planet (colony)|Eukaris]] and their prophet [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] viewed Onyx Prime as a benevolent protector. {{storylink|Windblade vol. 2 issue 6|Windblade vol. 2 #6}}

The role that the original Primes had played in the establishment of Cybertronian society would eventually be immortalized on the silver screen in the "hella-racist" film, ''[[The Birth of Cybertron]]''. {{storylink|New Cybertron Part 4: Dance Among the Shadows|Dance Among the Shadows}} {{storylink|Starscream: The Movie (comic)|Starscream: The Movie}}

[[Micronus Prime]], master of [[Prion (Titan)|Prion]], {{storylink|White Heat}} was known to have abandoned his native universe entirely after founding a colony of [[Mini-Con]]s. By the present day, his body lay dormant in the center of an alternate universe: the subatomic realm of [[Microspace]]. {{storylink|O Ship of State}} The ruler of Microspace, [[Baron Karza]] eventually [[enerchange]]d with Micronus and used the Prime's power to try and conquer the Earth, {{storylink|Wrath of Karza issue 1|Wrath of Karza #1}} only for [[Shazraella]] to use [[Time Traveler]] energy to separate the Prime from her husband and banish the Mini-Con through time. {{storylink|Wrath of Karza issue 5|Wrath of Karza #5}}

[[File:GhostStories-onyxprime.jpg|thumb|right|250px|"Stand and address your Almighty Tallest, Camien child."]]

The colony of Caminus detected a Cybertronian beacon emanating from the planet [[Antilla]] and sent three representatives to make contact with their ancestors. When they arrived, they found the planet to be a rusted wasteland ruled by Onyx Prime, who murdered [[Magrada]]. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 1: Surfeit of Primes|Surfeit of Primes}} Following the expedition's return to Caminus, the [[Torchbearer]] [[Pyra Magna (G1)|Pyra Magna]] encountered Onyx Prime when an army of robotic beasts terrorized the inhabitants of [[Parvus Oppidum]] so they could retrieve a sample of [[Ore-4]]. The experience left her traumatized, but with time she realized that the Primes were not the divine entities that she had believed them to be and began preparing to take up arms against Primes should the need arise. {{storylink|Ghost Stories}} {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 6: Unforgivable|Unforgivable}}

In the modern day, [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Shockwave]] unknowingly sent the [[Regenesis]] ores off to what he believed were random suitable worlds, but were, thanks to his future self's time-travelling manipulations, worlds touched by the Thirteen. {{storylink|The Crucible}} {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

When Cybertron re-opened a [[space bridge|spacebridge]] link with Caminus after years of isolation, the [[Mistress of Flame]] believed that Optimus, wielding the Matrix of Leadership, was the legendary reincarnation of the Thirteenth Prime: a mysterious figure from Cybertron's past known as "[[Thirteenth Prime#2005 IDW continuity|the Arisen]]". {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 3: The Medium and the Message|The Medium and the Message}} Optimus's supposed divinity proved a double-edged sword as he grew increasingly bold and unilateral in his decision making; leaning on the faith of others to unconditionally support his choices, he wound up annexing Earth into the [[Council of Worlds]] and sparking an interplanetary diplomatic crisis. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 1: Once Upon a Time on Earth|Once Upon a Time on Earth}} [[Colonist Soldiers|New recruits]] from Caminus, Eukaris, [[Velocitron]], and [[Devisiun (planet)|Devisiun]] believed wholeheartedly in Optimus's status as one of the Thirteen and began wearing [[mouthplate]]s to better emulate their leader. {{storylink|New Cybertron Part 1: To Walk Among the Chosen|To Walk Among the Chosen}}

Liege Maximo escaped from his imprisonment in Carcer in 2017, following a [[zombie]] Titan invasion on Cybertron. {{storylink|Rubicon}} The Camien [[Chromia (G1)|Chromia]] was released from prison by Cybertron's leader Starscream to hunt Maximo down, {{storylink|Heavy}} {{storylink|The Chosen One}} but Liege—who, by this point, had come to understand his master's decision to exile him aboard his loyal Titan—was found by Onyx, and brought with him in chains on his return to Cybertron. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 1: Surfeit of Primes|Surfeit of Primes}} Liege was taken into custody while Optimus and the [[Council of Worlds]] entered negotiations with Onyx, but the Prime's manipulations caused infighting and chaos, as well as an explosion that killed Alpha Trion. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 2: Another Mine|Another Mine}} With all of his plans falling into place, Shockwave discarded his "Onyx" identity, having no further use for it after he cast Optimus into the Crystal City singularity. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 4: The Hallowing|The Hallowing}}

Though Maximo soon perished and Shockwave was taken prisoner, the Decepticon's machinations had forced all of Cybertron accept a bitter truth: the Thirteen had been nothing more than ordinary Cybertronians. Upon hearing Pyra Magna vocalize this, Shockwave claimed this acceptance had been part of his plan to render all faiths and beliefs on Cybertron meaningless in preparation for [[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]]'s arrival. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 6: Unforgivable|Unforgivable}}

'''Known members:'''
:''See "[[#Covenant Thirteen|Covenant Thirteen]]" above''

As you can see, things got uncharacteristically granular for the Thirteen over the course of IDW Publishing's mammoth original continuity. Far from the usual name checks, by curtain call each Prime had (on average) led a [[Thirteen Tribes|tribe]] on feudal Cybertron and befriended a [[Titan (group)|Titan]]. At least five of these Titans went on to found [[Cybertronian colonies|offworld colonies]] during Cybertron's first age of expansion. With the collapse of Cybertron's first imperial phase, the existence of these colonies faded into myth and legend; future generations of Transformers would conflate the stories of these populated worlds with the other planets that had played a key role in the rise and fall of the Primes, eventually giving rise to a legend that ''thirteen'' lost colonies existed across the galaxy, one for each Prime. {{storylink|Transformers: Historia|Historia}} Years later, the younger Shockwave "seeded" these thirteen significant planets with [[Regenesis]] ores, each bearing various fantastical powers. Taken all together, known information gives us:

{|class="wikitable" border="10" style="width:95%" align="center"
|-
! scope="col" width="6.1%" |Prime
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''[[Prima]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''[[Vector Prime]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''[[Alpha Trion]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''[[Solus Prime]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''[[Micronus Prime]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''[[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''[[Nexus Prime]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''[[Onyx Prime]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''[[Amalgamous Prime]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''[[Quintus Prime]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''[[Liege Maximo]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''[[The Fallen|Megatronus]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''[[Thirteenth Prime|The Arisen]]'''
|-
|'''[[Titan (group)|Titan]]'''
|[[Emissary (IDW)|Emissary]]
|[[Tempo]]
|[[Nemesis (BW)|Nemesis]]
|[[Caminus (Titan)|Caminus]]
|[[Prion (Titan)|Prion]]
|[[Metrobase (G1)|Metrobase]]
|[[Devisiun (Titan)|Devisiun]]
|[[Chela]]
|[[Navitas]]
|[[Necrotitan|Quintessa]]
|[[Vigilem]]
|[[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]
|[[Metrotitan (G1)|Metrotitan]]
|-
|'''Planet'''
|[[Elonia]]
|[[LV-117]]
|[[Antilla]]
|[[Caminus (planet)|Caminus]]
|[[Prion (planet)|Prion]]
|[[Arduria]]
|[[Devisiun (planet)|Devisiun]]
|[[Jungle Planet (colony)|Eukaris]]
|[[Velocitron]]
|[[Gorlam Prime]]
|[[Vigilem|Carcer]]
|[[Tsiehshi]]
|[[Earth]]
|-
|'''[[Regenesis|Regenesis ore]]'''
|[[Ore-12]] ("Protection")
|[[Ore-1]] ("Time")
|[[Ore-7]] ("Change")
|[[Ore-4]] ("Gravity")
|[[Ore-3]] ("Size")
|[[Ore-6]] ("Cold")
|[[Ore-5]] ("Combination")
|[[Ore-11]] ("Evolution")
|[[Ore-9]] ("Space")
|[[Ore-2]] ("Death")
|[[Ore-10]] ("Deception")
|[[Ore-8]] ("Destruction")
|[[Ore-13]] ("Power")
|}
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====''Prime Wars Trilogy'' continuity====
=====''Prime Wars Trilogy'' marketing material=====
[[File:Throne of Primes Thirteen.jpg|thumb|right|upright=2.0|Before time began, there was just a whole mess of cubes.]]
The [[spark]]s of the original Primes were carried by the [[Prime Master]]s, tiny Transformers who, when in spark mode, could unite with larger Transformers to grant them [[Prime Master/Combinations|the powers of the Primes]] to wield as they choose. To minimise unwanted attention from those who sought the power they held, the Prime Masters hid themselves inside special decoy armor, which cloaked their vast power from the outside world.

Rather than a Prime Master, the role of the Thirteenth Prime was held by whoever currently bore the [[Matrix of Leadership]].<ref name="POTPMatrix">Comments made by Hasbro representatives at [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2017.</ref> The Thirteenth Prime was, however, made into a Prime Master too, transforming into a core resembling the Matrix of Leadership.

'''Known members:'''
:''See "[[#Covenant Thirteen|Covenant Thirteen]]" above''

The actual nature of the relationship between the incorporeal Primes and their diminutive "hosts" was thinly sketched at best and grew actively fuzzier as the ''[[Power of the Primes (franchise)|Power of the Primes]]'' franchise wore on, but the Prime Masters given explicit pairs of names were:

{|class="wikitable" border="10" style="width:70%" align="center"
|-
! scope="col" width="6.7%" |Prime
! scope="col" width="7.7%" |'''[[Vector Prime]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.7%" |'''[[Alpha Trion]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.7%" |'''[[Solus Prime]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.7%" |'''[[Micronus Prime]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.7%" |'''[[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.7%" |'''[[Quintus Prime]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.7%" |'''[[Liege Maximo]]'''
! scope="col" width="7.7%" |'''[[The Fallen|Megatronus]]'''
|-
|'''Decoy Armor'''
|[[Metalhawk (G1)|Metalhawk]]
|[[Landmine (G1)|Landmine]]
|[[Octopunch (G1)|Octopunch]]
|[[Cloudburst]]
|[[Submarauder (G1)|Submarauder]]
|[[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]]
|[[Skullgrin]]
|[[Bomb-Burst (G1)|Bomb-Burst]]
|}

=====''Prime Wars Trilogy'' cartoon=====
The combined knowledge of the Thirteen was hidden away in the [[Athenaeum Sanctorum]]. In the wake of [[Solus Prime]]'s death at [[The Fallen|Megatronus]]'s hands, the remaining members chose to seal away the [[Requiem Blaster (Thirteen)|Requiem Blaster]] in [[Primal Swamp]], tasking a series of guardians with protecting it that culminated in [[Optimus Primal (BW)|Optimus Primal]]. {{storylink|Athenaeum Sanctorum (episode)|Athenaeum Sanctorum}}

During a crisis, the [[Mistress of Flame]] prayed to Primus and the Thirteen for spiritual guidance and aid. {{storylink|Overlord and Emissary}}

{{groupstub|{{storylink|All Things Must Pass}} {{storylink|The Swamp}} {{storylink|Volcanicus (episode)|Volcanicus}} {{storylink|Without Warning}} {{storylink|Consequences}} {{storylink|Collision Course}} {{storylink|Megatronus Unleashed}} {{storylink|Saga's End}}}}

'''Known members:'''
{{collist|3|
*[[Prima]]
*[[The Fallen|Megatronus]]
*[[Alpha Trion]]
*[[Vector Prime]]
*[[Solus Prime]]
*[[Amalgamous Prime]]
*[[Nexus Prime]]
*[[Liege Maximo]]
*[[Onyx Prime]]
*[[Micronus Prime|Micronus]]
*[[Quintus Prime]]
*[[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]
*[[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]]
}}

====2019 IDW continuity====
[[File:EndOfTime-Thirteen.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Prima and Megatronus, surprisingly ''not'' at each other's throats in this universe. Also, Liege Maximo in the background?]]

The Thirteen Primes were said to have lived in the [[Age of Primes]], before they vanished. {{storylink|War World: Prime|Prime}} [[Termagax]] considered them to be metaphors, avatars, or an expression of the life pattern that made up Cybertron itself, {{storylink|End of Time}} even postulating that the Thirteen might have been fabricated by the early Cybertronians to explain the origins of their [[Artifacts of the Primes|fourteen artifacts]]. Out of all these artifacts, only the Matrix of Leadership and the Enigma of Combination had been seen following the Primes' disappearance. {{storylink|Lord of Misrule: Sea of Rust I|Sea of Rust I}}

The Age of Primes gave way to the [[Age of the Firstforged]]. According to one creation myth, this new generation of Cybertron emerged from the [[Ur-Forge]] of Solus Prime. {{storylink|End of Time}} Though their time had passed, some of the Primes who had not fallen or departed lingered among the [[Firstforged]]. Legend said that Solus Prime and Alchemist Prime received [[Solomus]] to hear his plans for [[Crystal City]], and contributed to its construction. {{storylink|A Dust of Crystals}}

When forced to take [[Lodestar (Titan)|Lodestar]] on an almost certainly suicidal mission against a crazed [[Vigilem]], [[Lightbright (G1)|Lightbright]] prayed that the Thirteen would see the two through their task. {{storylink|The Change In Your Nature Part Five}}

Legends of the Thirteenth Prime, the final bearer of the Matrix, persisted into the present day, and how they would one day claim it. {{storylink|War World: Prime|Prime}}

'''Known members:'''
{{collist|3|
*[[Prima]]
*[[Vector Prime]]
*[[Solus Prime]]
*[[Micronus Prime]]
*[[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]
*[[Nexus Prime]]
*[[Quintus Prime]]
*[[Liege Maximo]]
*[[The Fallen|Megatronus]]
*[[Thirteenth Prime#2019 IDW continuity|The Thirteenth Prime]]
}}

{{note|Though the Thirteen's membership in this timeline is based off the "[[#Covenant Thirteen|Covenant Thirteen]]", only ten of the group's members were identified before the continuity came to a close. Of the missing three, the [[Transformation Cog (Thirteen)|Transformation Cog]] of [[Amalgamous Prime]] and the [[Triptych Mask]] of [[Onyx Prime]] were mentioned by Termagax and while [[Alpha Trion]] appeared, there was no explicit confirmation, or rejection, that he was one of the Thirteen—though he ''does'' appear in a stained-glass mural alongside other members of the Thirteen in [[The Cracks Beneath Your Feet Part Five|issue #11]].}}
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====''War for Cybertron Trilogy'' cartoon====
[[File:EarthriseEpisode5-SkyLynxfloating.jpg|thumb|left|300px|]]
{{groupstub|{{storylink|Earthrise episode 5}}}}

'''Known members:'''
*[[Solus Prime]]
*[[The Fallen]]
*[[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]

====''End of G1 Universe''====
[[File:End of G1 Universe Prime Council.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.5|]]
When [[Maximal]] leader [[Lio Convoy|Leo Prime]] disbanded the "[[Convoy (rank)|Convoy]]" system of government following the end of the [[Cybertronian civil wars|Second Great War]], he replaced the [[Convoy Council]] with the '''Prime Council''' (プライム評議会 ''Puraimu Hyōgika''), a thirteen-seat board of democratically elected [[Prime Leader]]s known colloquially as the "Thirteen Primes." Leo ceded much of his own governing authority to the Council, concerning himself solely with defense of the realm going forward. The Maximal government granted blanket amnesty and eligibility for office to all and sundry, resulting in the bombastic one-time interdimensional invader [[The Fallen|Megatronus The Fallen Prime]] becoming a prominent voice on the body.

As an epidemic of natural disasters signaled that the Maximals' universe had begun to reach the end of its lifespan, discovering a resource with which to slow the damage became the top of the Council's agenda. In this effort the Council dismissed outright the use of [[Angolmois Energy]] as a threat to public safety, a policy Leo Prime found increasingly exasperating as the energy crisis wore on.

When Leo Prime's patrols across [[Aligned continuity family|adjacent dimensions]] inadvertently resulted in a horde of wild beasts known as "[[Predacon (Prime)|Predacons]]" breaching the Maximals' universe, the Prime Council nearly called for his removal until Megatronus trotted out his own sob story of redemption to get the old lion out of hot water. The Council subsequently cajoled Leo into investigating the [[spirit energy]] of [[Legends World]] as a potential alternative to Angolmois. This proved to be little more than a stalling tactic. As soon as the senior Prime was offworld, the Council seized on the lack of oversight to implement the [[Anti-Angolmois Energy Act]]. Under this statute, the Thirteen had their [[Primal Vanguard]] round up any and all citizens found to be in possession of the substance— including the divine supercomputer [[Primus|Vector Sigma]], and Leo Prime's 100% Angolmois son, [[Lio Junior]]!

The Council leaked that last bit to bait Leo Prime home with the intention of arresting him as the final Angolmois Energy user. In the course of the ensuing scuffle, Megatronus revealed the Thirteen's ultimate plan: to burn the [[Transformer afterlife]] itself as fuel, with the souls of the "unworthy" dead being used to power the evacuation of the Council and their hand-picked "model citizens" to a new dimension. Leo did not like that plan one bit, and put a definitive end to the Thirteen's schemes by slaying Megatronus at the cost of his own life. {{storylink|Age of Primes (End of G1 Universe)|Age of Primes}}

Following the battle, the distraught [[Dimensional Patrol]] cadet [[Blue Bolts (RID)|Bluebolt]] fled to [[Earth]] under a freed Vector Sigma's orders and revived the corpse of her fallen commander using a {{w|magic circle}} made up of the symbols of the Thirteen. Leo Prime's body merged with the remnants of [[Unicron]]'s Angolmois Energy within the planet as intended, but the ingredients reacted... unexpectedly, creating the mercurial [[Dark Amber Leo Prime]]. {{Storylink|Dark Amber Leo Prime (First)}} {{Storylink|Dark Amber Leo Prime#Masterpiece|Dark Amber Leo Prime bio}}

'''Known members:'''
{{collist|3|
*[[Onyx Prime]]
*[[The Fallen|Megatronus The Fallen Prime]]
*[[Solus Prime]]
*[[Prima|Prima Prime]]
*[[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]
*[[Amalgamous Prime]]
*[[Quintus Prime]]
}}
{{--}}

====Energon Universe====
[[File:TF2023 no. 22 - Hall of the Primes.jpg|thumb|left|upright=0.8|]]
The departed essences of the Thirteen apparently resided in the [[Hall of the Primes]], an extra-dimensional realm within the Matrix of Leadership. Giant effigies of each of the Thirteen stood in the Hall, dwarfing those who ventured through it. {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 22|Transformers #22}} [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] once swore by "the soul of the Fallen". {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 3|Transformers #3}} Optimus Prime and [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparky]] purged a corrupting infection from the Hall of the Primes, seemingly guided by the spirits of the Thirteen. {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 23|Transformers #23}}

'''Known members:'''
{{collist|3|
*[[The Fallen]]
*[[Nexus Prime]]
*[[Liege Maximo]]
*[[Quintus Prime]]
*[[Solus Prime]]
*[[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]
*[[Prima]]
*[[Vector Prime]]
}}
{{--}}

===Fun Publications===
[[Vector Prime]] aided the [[Autobot]]s in finding the [[Cyber Planet Key]]s to close the [[Unicron Singularity]]. He regularly reported their progress to [[Alpha Trion]], but during one visit Unicron's servants [[Ramjet (Universe)|Ramjet]] and [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)|Nemesis Prime]] attacked. {{storylink|Balancing Act}} [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]] came to Cybertron looking for clues to his past, only to be attacked by [[Scorponok (Energon)|Dark Scorponok]], {{storylink|Balancing Act, Part 2}} but his forcefield protected him. Ramjet offered him clues to his past in exchange for his <s>soul</s> service. {{storylink|Balancing Act, Part 3}} They went to Primus's spark core to destroy him with the [[Dead Matrix]], but Vector and [[Sentinel Maximus]] fought back. {{storylink|Balancing Act, Part 4}} Ramjet said he would stop trying to kill Primus if Vector aided them in restoring the balance by resurrecting Unicron, but he refused. {{storylink|Balancing Act, Pt 5}} Skyfall tried to save Ramjet but his forcefield only ignited an explosion that killed Ramjet. {{storylink|Revelations Part 1}} Vector had drones repair Skyfall and found [[Omega Prime]]—the creation of one of Trion's [[Viron]] counterparts—had helped Sentinel defeated Nemesis. Omega's presence saddened Vector, as it confirmed the multiverse was falling apart, and he left for Earth. {{storylink|Revelations Part 2}}

Skyfall was helping Sentinel repair [[Vector Sigma]], when [[Over-Run (Armada)|Over-Run]] informed him he had found a twenty-million-cycle-old carving of him and another bot. {{storylink|Revelations Part 4}} Immediately during a battle between [[Mini-Con]] Autobots and [[Decepticon]]s, Skyfall found [[Landquake (Timelines)|Landquake]]. {{storylink|Revelations Part 5}} The two seemingly vanished when Unicron attacked, {{storylink|Revelations Part 6}} when they had been transported to [[Breakaway (Classics)|Breakaway]]'s universe, {{storylink|Crossing Over, Part 1}} and the trio and went through a [[space bridge]] {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 6}} to find [[Topspin (Classics)|Topspin]] in [[Axiom Nexus]]. [[Cheetor (TransTech)|Cheetor]] and [[Silverbolt (TransTech)|Silverbolt]] introduced the trio to [[Alpha Trion#Shattered Glass|Alpha Trion]]. However, [[Shockwave (TransTech)|Shockwave]] had Breakaway quietly subdued and taken to his laboratory. {{storylink|Transcendent: Part 1}} Skyfall and Landquake realized Breakaway was gone, but Alpha Trion told them to come with him if they wanted to rescue their brother from the evil [[Transcendent Technomorph|TransTechs]]. {{storylink|Transcendent: Part 2}} He explained he was not from this dimension and was part of a resistance movement, introducing them to Topspin, whose job was to transfer their [[lowtech]] followers' [[spark]]s into their TransTech counterparts. Realizing Topspin was one of their kin, Skyfall and Landquake agreed to help. {{storylink|Transcendent: Part 3}} [[Nightscream (TransTech)|Nightscream]] found Breakaway was being held near the portal to Alpha Trion's dimension, {{storylink|Transcendent: Part 4}} and his acolytes attacked, rescuing Breakaway {{storylink|Transcendent: Part 5}} and entering the [[unspace|transwarp]] device. Alpha Trion explained to Skyfall he was the key to the reunification, and killed him as they entered [[Primax -408.24 Epsilon|his universe]]. {{storylink|Transcendent: Part 6}}

[[File:Reunification5-arisenexusprime.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.95|"It's beautiful..." "Holy crap!" "It's perfect!" "This is the best thing!"]]
Despite his claim his was a peaceful world, Alpha Trion shot [[Downshift (SG)|Downshift]], and Breakaway realized Skyfall had been killed by an energy blade rather than shot from behind as the old Autobot claimed. Alpha Trion's troops arrived, took the four components and he proclaimed he would kill them all—as reunification still worked with one of them dead—and that his reign would begin. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 1}} Landquake manipulated the raw energon and used smokebombs to escape, with Topspin and Breakaway carrying Skyfall. Weeks later, after trying unsuccessfully to revive Skyfall, {{storylink|Reunification: Part 2}} the [[Quintesson]] [[Aquarius (SG)|Aquarius]] appeared to take them to [[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]]. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 3}} Landquake explained their situation to the Decepticons, and Megatron asked [[Cyclonus (SG)|Cyclonus]] to bring [[Heatwave (Timelines)|Heatwave]], but then Cyclonus, revealing himself to be an agent of Alpha Trion, assassinated Megatron. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 4}} Breakaway suggested they use their powers to revive Megatron, and found themselves in a white space with Skyfall and Primus. They made their choice: [[Nexus Prime]] was reborn. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 5}} Nexus resurrected Megatron as Galvatron and defeated [[Omega Doom]]. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 6}} Using Galvatron's gift of the [[Space bridge|stellar spanner]], Nexus and Aquarius began dimension-hopping to find the shards of the [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|artifact]] he had been entrusted with, so he could complete his memories. While Nexus outlined the artifact's background to Aquarius, the faces of Vector Prime and [[The Fallen]] flashed through his mind. {{storylink|The Coming Storm: Part 1}}

The TransTechs knew the [[Mini-Con]]s to be the children of [[Micronus Prime]] {{storylink|Rook - Axiom Nexus News: Investigative Journalist|Rook - Axiom Nexus News, 2015/05/09}} and early on in their history were threatened with an ultimately failed coup led by [[Jhiaxus (TransTech)|Jhiaxus]], a follower of the [[Liege Maximo]]. {{storylink|Rook - Axiom Nexus News: Investigative Journalist|Rook - Axiom Nexus News, 2015/05/06}}

When the [[Transcendent Technomorph|TransTech]]s detected significant multiversal chaos resulting from negative polarity Primax Autobots [[Invasion (issue)|crossing over into a mirror universe]], they suspected that [[Rarified Energon]] was somehow involved. [[Rhinox (TransTech)|Rhinox]] was also aware of (correct) rumors that the Thirteen were involved with Rarified Energon. {{storylink|Invasion Prologue}} As part of their response to the multiversal chaos, the TransTechs deployed [[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]] to prehistoric Shatteredverse Earth in order to keep the [[Origin Matrix]] out of evil hands. {{storylink|Invasion: Epilogue}}

After several unspecified adventures, Aquarius ended up in Axiom Nexus and took charge of a shard of the Star Saber from [[Chifumi Takahashi|a courier]]. In exchange, he promised to help her get home. {{storylink|Transformers I.Q.#issue 48|Transformers I.Q. last issue review}} To their surprise, however, they ended up on Shatteredverse Cybertron. It soon became obvious that Nexus had transported them there in order to receive the [[Origin Matrix]], the fifth and final piece, from [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], recently retrieved from prehistoric Shatteredverse Earth. {{storylink|Transformers I.Q.#issue 54|Transformers I.Q. trivia bonus #12}} {{storylink|Falling into Place}}

When he reunited the [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|Star Saber]] and the [[Terminus Blade]], Nexus Prime decided that he was going to return things to "how they used to be", {{storylink|Restoration}} and strengthened the walls between the various realities of the multiverse, which had the consequence of ending the existence of he and siblings as multiversal singularities. {{storylink|Out of the One, Many}}

'''Known members:'''
:''See "[[#Multiversal Thirteen|Multiversal Thirteen]]" above''

====Olympian universe====
In certain universes, the Thirteen visited [[Greece]] in a time before human technology was advanced enough for them to assume vehicular disguises. Instead, twelve of their number dwelled on [[Mount Olympus]] and used [[holomatter]] avatars to interact with the natives, {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/07/20}} while [[Mortilus]] remained beneath the Earth with their ship, alongside his vassal [[Bruticus (RID)|Bruticus]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/08/08}}

As "quasi-humans", the Thirteen would become known to the local humans as the {{w|Twelve Olympians|gods of Olympus}}. [[Vector Prime]] was {{w|Hermes}}; the rage-filled [[The Fallen|Megatronus]] was {{w|Ares}}; the hard-working [[Solus Prime]] was {{w|Hephaestus}}; the wise [[Alpha Trion]] was {{w|Athena}}; the eldest of their number [[Prima]] was {{w|Zeus}}; his close ally [[Nexus Prime|Nexus Maximus]] was {{w|Hera}}; the nature-loving hunter [[Onyx Prime]] was {{w|Artemis}}; the hard-drinking [[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]] was {{w|Dionysus}}; the vain and manipulative [[Liege Maximo]] was {{w|Aphrodite}}; the healer [[Last Autobot|Autonomous Prime]] was {{w|Apollo}}; the chaotic [[Adaptus]] was {{w|Poseidon}}; the solitary Mortilus was {{w|Hades}}; and the knowledge-sharing [[Epistemus]] was {{w|Demeter}}. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/07/20}} {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/08/08}}

As the Olympians, several of the Thirteen deviated from both their more common gender identities and their status as siblings; Vector considered Hades and Poseidon to be his uncles, {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/07/20}} and because of the animosity between Hephaestus and Aphrodite, Zeus decreed that they should be [[Transformer romance|bonded together]] to avoid further conflict (which only made things worse). Amongst the Thirteen's many experiences, Hades and Demeter quarrelled over a woman named [[Persephone]]; Vector would later note that as "quasi-humans" their conflicts were far more petty and frequent. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/08/08}}

'''Known members:'''
{{collist|3|
*[[Vector Prime|Hermes]]
*[[The Fallen|Ares]]
*[[Solus Prime|Hephaestus]]
*[[Alpha Trion|Athena]]
*[[Prima|Zeus]]
*[[Nexus Prime|Hera]]
*[[Onyx Prime|Artemis]]
*[[Maccadam|Dionysus]]
*[[Liege Maximo|Aphrodite]]
*[[Last Autobot|Apollo]]
*[[Adaptus|Poseidon]]
*[[Mortilus|Hades]]
*[[Epistemus|Demeter]]
}}

===Live-action film series===
{{main|Dynasty of Primes}}

[[File:ROTF-sixprimes.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.66|The Primes in the Matrix/Allspark/surreal part of Primus's imagination.]]
The Primes were the guardians of the [[AllSpark]], charged with replenishing it. They commanded [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seekers]] and [[Constructicon (ROTF)|workers]] to find stars and replenish the AllSpark with their energy. The Fallen began seeing himself as the AllSpark's chosen one and began destroying solar systems with sentient life to replenish the Cube. His brothers warned him not to do it again, so The Fallen tried it again on [[Earth]] to lure them. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 3|Tales of the Fallen #3}} The Fallen slaughtered all his brothers bar Prima himself, who gathered his brothers' lifeforce to trap The Fallen in his [[sarcophagus]]. Prima sacrificed himself to form a [[Tomb of the Primes|tomb]] with his brothers' bodies to hide the Matrix. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 4|Tales of the Fallen #4}}

A long time passed, and The Fallen was eventually dug up. From his prison, he pushed [[Megatron (Movie)|High Protector Megatron]] into forming the Decepticons. {{storylink|Defiance issue 2|Defiance #2}} Thousands of years later, [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], the sole surviving descendant of the Primes to survive The Fallen's rampage, {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen issue 3|Revenge of the Fallen #3}} had been killed. The Primes appeared to [[Sam Witwicky]], giving him the Matrix to revive Optimus, and Optimus avenged The Fallen's brothers by killing him. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

'''Known members:'''
*[[Prima]]
*[[The Fallen]]

{{note|The ''Revenge of the Fallen'' adaptations have thirteen Primes. While designs were made for twelve non-Fallen Prime heads, the finished film shows only seven Primes, and this change was followed in ''[[Transformers: Tales of the Fallen|Tales of the Fallen]]'' and [[Transformers (Titan Magazine)|the Titan magazine]].}}

===Aligned continuity family===
[[File:OneShallRise1-TheThirteen.jpg|thumb|upright=2.2|They're not a fan of direct lighting.]]

Seeing the endless stalemate between him and [[Unicron#Aligned continuity family|Unicron]], [[Primus]] created the Thirteen, warriors in the mold of himself and Unicron, to fight in his stead and introduce random variables. The Thirteen did indeed succeed in [[Expulsion of Unicron|defeating Unicron]] but were infected with a touch of the Chaos-Bringer's darkness as a result of direct proximity to the Dark God.

Following Unicron's exile, the Primes began reshaping their world before the manipulations of [[Liege Maximo]] caused the group to descend into civil war. The skirmish claimed both Maximo and [[Solus Prime]]. [[Onyx Prime|Onyx]], [[Micronus Prime|Micronus]] and [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] chose to descend into the [[Core]] and join Primus so they could aid in the creation of the Cybertronian race with [[Prima]], [[Alpha Trion]] and [[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]] remaining on Cybertron to act as stewards for the newborn species while [[Nexus Prime]] separated himself into separate individuals to live among the ordinary Cybertronians. [[Quintus Prime|Quintus]], [[Amalgamous Prime|Amalgamous]], [[Vector Prime]] and [[The Fallen]] left Cybertron outright.

Following the [[Great Cataclysm]], Prima and Alchemist Prime disappeared with Alpha Trion choosing to fall into obscurity. As a result, the Thirteen became little more than a myth in the new era. {{storylink|Transformers: The Covenant of Primus|Covenant of Primus}}

What lore regarding the Primes survived into the pre-War era is that their war made them "enemies of brothers, murderers of lovers, heroes of the insignificant, and cowards of the mighty". Allegiances formed and broke apart: Megatronus refused to bow before his brothers, and he believed he would be vindicated someday despite his destructive methods. The murder of one sent them across the stars, to battle among themselves for billions of cycles. Finally, there came a time when Prima had to relinquish the Matrix. Afterward, the [[Covenant of Primus]] decreed Cybertron could only have one Prime at a time. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}} The chamber of the [[Autobot High Council|High Council of Cybertron]] had statues depicting the Primes. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}

[[File:OneShallRise1-Thirteenattack.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.66|Three seconds of one episode made up for a lifetime of lack of Thirteen images.]]
[[Alpha Trion]] remained on Cybertron, recording these events into the Covenant, and the Primes became myths doubted by [[Jazz (WFC)|some]]. Alpha Trion retreated into becoming the Archivist of the [[Hall of Records]] when [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Sentinel Prime]], the [[Autobot High Council|High Council]], and the [[Guilds of Cybertron]] ignored his protests about the [[Functionism|caste system]]. The [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] did not bestow itself onto another until the unworthy Sentinel died, and [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] was imbued with it, while his nemesis had become known as [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]], who like his namesake had come to destroy that he believed in. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}

During his travels across the galaxy, Optimus Prime encountered both [[Vector Prime|Vector]] and [[Nexus Prime]] both of whom expressed surprise that Alpha Trion still lived and wondered if any of their other brothers might still be alive. {{storylink|Transformers: Exiles|Exiles}}

When Unicron stirred, Optimus Prime explained the history of the Thirteen to his human allies. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}

Before Optimus Prime was to die, {{storylink|Predacons Rising (Prime)|Predacons Rising}} the Primes intercepted his [[spark]] and brought him to their [[Realm of the Primes|realm]]. {{storylink|Decepticon Island (Part 1)}}

After his death, Optimus was able to appear to Bumblebee when the Primes deemed the young bot's need was most dire. {{storylink|W.W.O.D.?}} As part of Optimus's training, Micronus challenged him to a test which resulted in him unlocking the capabilities of the [[Prime Decepticon Hunter]]. {{storylink|Out of Focus}} Though Optimus did not fully complete his training, he had six of the Primes in the [[Realm of the Primes]] send him to Earth to deal with the return of Megatronus, {{storylink|Battlegrounds, Part 1}} which he accomplished with the aid of the [[Bee Team (RID)|Bee Team]]. {{storylink|Battlegrounds, Part 2}}

'''Known members:'''
:''See "[[#Covenant Thirteen|Covenant Thirteen]]" above''
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===''Portal'' cartoon===
{{groupstub|{{storylink|Transformers: Portal}}}}

'''Known members:'''
*[[Prima]]
*[[Nexus Prime]]
*[[Quintus Prime]]
*[[Vector Prime]]
*[[Micronus Prime]]

===''Cyberverse'' cartoon===
Legendary figures in Cybertronian society, the Thirteen were the first of the Primes, each having a psychic pillar dedicated to them in the Matrix of Leadership where their spirits persisted after their physical deaths. {{storylink|Dweller In The Depths (Cyberverse)|Dweller In The Depths}} Through this, the bearer of the Matrix could commune with the Thirteen and seek their power and wisdom in times of crisis. {{storylink|Silent Strike}}

In the modern era, the only known members of the Thirteen to survive were [[Alpha Trion]] and [[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]. {{storylink|Dweller In The Depths (Cyberverse)|Dweller In The Depths}} Under unknown circumstances, Alchemist adopted the alias of "[[Maccadam]]" and hid his connection to the group though rumours, ones that [[Bumblebee (Cyberverse)|Bumblebee]] personally didn't buy into, of his true origins circled around. {{storylink|Maccadam's}} Alpha Trion, meanwhile, carried the [[Matrix of Leadership]], seeking to pass it on to a worthy bearer; he eventually found someone worthy in [[Optimus Prime (Cyberverse)|Optimus Prime]], and passed the Matrix on to him after Trion was mortally wounded, inducting him as a Prime. {{storylink|Matrix of Leadership (episode)|Matrix of Leadership}}

'''Known members:'''
:''See "[[#Covenant Thirteen|Covenant Thirteen]]" above''

{{note|The fact that Optimus Prime is not, apparently, an ancient Cybertronian like he is in the [[Aligned continuity family]] makes it unclear how he fits into the Thirteen, despite having one of the thirteen pillars in [[Matrix of Leadership#Alternate universe|a divergent timeline's Matrix]]. ''Cyberverse'' writer [[Mae Catt]] suggested that it was possible that there were additional pillars for other Primes within the Matrix that just happened to be "offscreen".}}

===''EarthSpark'' cartoon===
[[File:Disarmed-TheThirteen.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Solus has been hulking up.]]
The Thirteen Primes established [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]'s culture in its early days. {{storylink|Age of Evolution, Part 1}} One of their number, [[Liege Maximo]], eventually went rogue, seeking to use the Primes' [[Artifacts of the Primes|artifacts]] to turn other planets into sources of [[energon]] and make Cybertron the centre of a galactic empire. The other Primes imprisoned Liege in a "lightless void" and erased all mention of his name from Cybertronian history. {{storylink|Legacy of Hope}}

Eventually, [[Quintus Prime]] left Cybertron, using his [[Emberstone]] to seed life on other planets. {{storylink|Age of Evolution, Part 1}}

During the era of the [[Great War (ES)|Great War]], Liege Maximo managed to escape his prison. Returning to Cybertron, Maximo discovered the [[AllSpark]] and poisoned it with one of his [[Liegian Darts]], preventing it from healing the planet and allowing him to convince those Cybertronians still active on the planet that his plan would restore their world. Still committed to his original plan, Maximo began to hunt down his siblings, slaying them and taking their artifacts for himself. {{storylink|Legacy of Hope}}

When explaining the power of the Primes to the Malto family, [[Optimus Prime (ES)|Optimus Prime]] showed them the [[Matrix of Leadership]], granted to him by the Primes, briefly touching on the history of the Primes and their artifacts. {{storylink|Disarmed}}

When a [[space bridge]] opened to [[Earth]], Maximo sent [[Hot Rod (ES)|Hot Rod]] through to recover the Emberstone and bring it to him. When Optimus Prime led other Autobots into the portal after him, {{storylink|Hometown Heroes}} Maximo captured them, seeking the Matrix. After [[Robby Malto]] had found and removed the Dart that Liege had placed in the AllSpark, allowing it to start healing Cybertron, the Autobots and [[Terran]]s destroyed Maximo's horns, banishing him back to his prison. {{storylink|Legacy of Hope}}

'''Known members:'''
*[[Prima]]
*[[Quintus Prime]]
*[[Liege Maximo]]
*[[Optimus Prime (ES)|Optimus Prime]]

{{note|While the rest of the Primes went unnamed, the existence of [[The Fallen|Megatronus]], [[Nexus Prime]], [[Onyx Prime]], and [[Vector Prime]] was indicated by the Liege Maximo using the [[Requiem Blaster (Thirteen)|Requiem Blaster]], the [[Enigma of Combination]], the [[Triptych Mask]], and the [[Blades of Time]] in "[[Legacy of Hope]]".}}

===''One'' film===
[[File:TransformersOne-ThePrimesholograms.jpg|thumb|300px|'''Hasbro''': "''Power of the Primes'' wasn't that successful. How are we gonna make the Thirteen popular enough to make toys out of them?" 
'''Josh Cooley''': "I'm going to do what's called a pro-gamer move!"]]
The original thirteen Primes were created by [[Primus]] at the dawn of Cybertron, the first Transformers and the leaders of the race's Golden Age. The [[High Guard]] served as their elite bodyguards. The Primes ruled in peace for eons until the Quintessons attacked and threw Cybertron into violent war. The war raged for years until [[Sentinel Prime (One)|Sentinel]], the Primes' secretary, informed them of a secret gathering of Quintesson generals. The Primes, realizing that a decisive attack could decimate enemy leadership and win the war, went as a group to attack the council in a hidden cave. When they arrived, they found a waiting Quintesson ambush. The Primes fought and gained the upper hand when Sentinel betrayed them, stabbing Nexus Prime through his chest, decapitating Megatronus Prime, and using Nexus' weapon to kill several of the others, including Solus Prime and Zeta Prime. Sentinel attempted to take the Matrix of Leadership from Zeta's body, but it rejected him and disintegrated. Instead, Sentinel took Megatronus' [[Transformation cog (biology)|transformation cog]] as his trophy. Sentinel declared himself the new Prime and left to take control of Cybertron, unaware that Alpha Trion survived the battle in stasis. To the public, Sentinel disseminated a cover story in which he was the last survivor of the Primes, the rest of whom died heroically to defeat the Quintessons.

Fifty cycles later, the [[cogless]] miners [[Optimus Prime (One)|Orion Pax]], [[Megatron (One)|D-16]], [[Elita-1 (One)|Elita-1]], and [[Bumblebee (One)|B-127]] discovered the Primes' resting place following an S.O.S. beacon from Trion. They reawakened the sleeping Prime and he recounted Sentinel's betrayal to them, denouncing him as a false Prime, before bestowing them with transformation cogs borrowed from Prima, Alchemist, Micronus, and Onyx. The four left to take the evidence to Iacon while Trion held off Sentinel's forces, killing several Death Trackers before being captured by [[Airachnid (One)|Airachnid]]. Trion was taken to face Sentinel, who gloated with him before killing the Prime for trying to give him a speech.

Later, during a battle with Sentinel's forces, D-16 accidentally shot Orion and allowed him to fall towards Cybertron's core. There, the spirits of the Primes appeared and informed Orion that Primus had chosen him to carry the Matrix of Leadership, and he was reborn as Optimus Prime. While this was happening, D-16 killed Sentinel and took Megatronus' cog for his own. Embittered by Sentinel's misuse of the Primes' legacy to deceive Cybertron into slavery, D-16 declared that there would be no more Primes, and renamed himself Megatron. {{storylink|Transformers One (film)|One}}

'''Known members:'''
{{collist|3|
*[[Prima#One film|Prima Prime]]
*[[The Fallen#One film|Megatronus Prime]]
*[[Alpha Trion#One continuity|Alpha Trion]]
*[[Vector Prime#One film|Vector Prime]]
*[[Solus Prime#One film|Solus Prime]]
*[[Amalgamous Prime#One film|Amalgamous Prime]]
*[[Nexus Prime#One film|Nexus Prime]]
*[[Liege Maximo#One film|Liege Maximo]]
*[[Onyx Prime#One film|Onyx Prime]]
*[[Micronus Prime#One film|Micronus Prime]]
*[[Quintus Prime#One film|Quintus Prime]]
*[[Maccadam#One film|Alchemist Prime]]
*[[Zeta Prime (One)|Zeta Prime]]
}}

===''Age of the Primes'' marketing material===
[[File:AOTP Thirteen Awaken Cybertron Con 2024.jpg|thumb|250px|AWAKEN \ AWAKEN \ AWAKEN \ AWAKEN [[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|SAVE OUR WORLDS]] \ SMITE FORSAKEN]]
The Thirteen Primes were the first Transformers ever made. To a bot, each Transformer could trace their [[Energon bloodline|lineage]] back to one of the Thirteen. They fell into some manner of dormancy at some point, and were awoken by the battles of the Transformers of the present day. {{storylink|Cybertron Con 2024|Age of the Primes reveal cinematic}}

'''Known members:'''
{{collist|3|
*[[Prima|Prima Prime]]
*[[Vector Prime]]
*[[Alpha Trion]]
*[[Solus Prime]]
*[[Micronus Prime]]
*[[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]
*[[Nexus Prime]]
*[[Onyx Prime]]
*[[Amalgamous Prime]]
*[[Quintus Prime]]
*[[Liege Maximo|Liege Maximo Prime]]
*[[The Fallen|Megatronus the Fallen]]
*[[Thirteenth Prime|Star Optimus Prime]]
}}

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==Games==
===''Transformers: Earth Wars''===
The Thirteen appointed the warrior [[Sentius Nobilius]] to guard [[Artifacts of the Primes|their stuff]], granting him his own holy weapon, the [[Sword of Balance]], for the task. Sentius was betrayed by one of the Primes, who turned his own sword against him to cleave him in two, creating the Relic Guardian of Light, [[Sentius Magnus]], and the Relic Guardian of Darkness, [[Sentius Malus]]. {{storylink|Source:Transformers: Earth Wars/2018#Sentius Magnus|Sentius Magnus bio}} {{storylink|Source:Transformers: Earth Wars/2018#Sentius Malus|Sentius Malus bio}}
{{chargamestub|Nova's backstory, Artifact stuff, more probably}}

====The Prime Core war====
[[File:Earth Wars Megatronus Core.jpg|thumb|upright=0.6]]
{{see|Prime Master#Transformers: Earth Wars}}

The [[Prime Master#Transformers:Earth Wars|Prime Cores]]—each the "heart" of one of the Thirteen Primes—appeared and fell to Earth, becoming a hotly contested new resource in the [[Earth Wars (conflict)|Earth Wars]]. {{storylink|Power of the Primes (Earth Wars)|Power of the Primes}}

{{chargamestub|''Power of the Primes'' storyline (starts with [[Warpath & Skullsmasher Saga]])}}

====The Great Resetting====
[[File:EW-Nova Prime.jpg|thumb|right|250px|]]
Upon [[Vector Prime]]'s arrival into regular spacetime, [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] and [[C.L. (G1)|C.L.]] took only a moment to recognise their saviour as one of the original Thirteen. Vector had broken his vow of non-interference to stop the machinations of his renegade sibling, [[Nova Prime]]. {{storylink|Enemy of My Enemy (Earth Wars)|Enemy of My Enemy}} Vector also approached the time-lost [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], who was very honoured to meet his forebear. {{storylink|Timeless Champions#Vector Prime|Vector Prime arrival}}

{{chargamestub|[[Tarnation|Alpha Trion's saga]], rest of [[Timeless Champions]] and subsequent time warp storyline}}

====The Age of Primes====
{{see|Transformers: Earth Wars#Primes}}
{{chargamestub|{{storylink|New Armada}} {{storylink|Second Armada}} {{storylink|Third Armada}} {{storylink|Prime Relics}}}}

'''Known members:'''
{{collist|3|
*[[Prima]]
*[[The Fallen|Megatronus]]
*[[Alpha Trion]]
*[[Vector Prime]]
*[[Solus Prime]]
*[[Amalgamous Prime]]
*[[Nexus Prime]]
*[[Liege Maximo]]
*[[Onyx Prime]]
*[[Micronus Prime|Micronus]]
*[[Quintus Prime]]
*[[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]
*[[Nova Prime]]
}}
{{-}}

===''Transformers Roleplaying Game''===
Some Transformers theorized that the Thirteen may have been the original combiners. {{storylink|The Enigma of Combination}}
{{Gamestub|{{storylink|Transformers One Sourcebook}}}}

==Toys==
===''Power of the Primes''===
[[File:TF-POTP-Vector-Prime-Prime-Master.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb]]
{{main|Prime Master}}
{{toydesigner|[[John Warden]] and [[Lynsey Urban]] (Hasbro)|[[Robby Musso]] (concept artist), [[Marcelo Matere]] (packaging artist)}}

:The centerpiece of the [[2018]] ''[[Power of the Primes (toyline)|Power of the Primes]]'' line, the Prime Masters represent the [[spark]]s of the Thirteen.

:Largely recycling the engineering of the previous line's "[[Titan Master]]" [[Headmaster (technology)|head guys]], the Prime Masters transform from tiny robots to vague mystical blocks prominently emblazoned with each Prime's [[Insignia/Gallery#Religious symbols|personal sigil]]. They were initially packed on individual cards with "[[Pretender#Power of the Primes|Decoy Armors]]" based on various classic [[Pretender]] characters before becoming pack-ins to various big-ticket box sets as the line reached its conclusion.

:Operating solo, the Prime Masters have the ability to reconfigure with their Decoy Armors into chunky [[Targetmaster (technology)|Targetmaster]]-style weapons for larger figures to wield. When slotted into the chest armor/[[combiner]] fists of the line's Deluxes, forearm bucklers/combiner feet of the Voyagers, the chests of fully assembled combiners in place of their [[Enigma of Combination#Power of the Primes|Enigmas of Combination]], or the [[Matrix of Leadership/toys#Power of the Primes|Matrices]] of the Leader Class figures, the Prime Masters grant the bearer the abilities of their respective Prime via [[Prime Master/Combinations|the power of your imagination]].

:In the toyline's grand finale, twelve of the thirteen Prime Masters can combine with the [[San Diego Comic-Con]]-exclusive [[Throne of the Primes]] to create the almighty plastic spinner wheel known as the [[Halo of Primus]], with the straggler intended to ride in the included [[Optimus Primal (BW)/toys#SDCC2018|Prime-ified Optimus Primal's]] chest or the related [[Scepter of Sparks]].

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===''Legacy''===
[[File:Legacy-A-Hero-Is-Born-Alpha-Trion.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|]]
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{{Bp-a1|'''A Hero Is Born''' (2-pack, [[2022]]) ([[Alpha Trion/toys#Legacy|Alpha Trion]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#HasbroPulse|Orion Pax]] w/ [[Vector Sigma#Legacy|Vector Sigma]])}}
{{Bp-multi|'''[[Nova Prime#Legacy|Nova Prime]]''' (Leader Class, [[2023]] / [[2025]])}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Vector Prime#Legacy|'''Cybertron Universe Vector Prime''']] (Voyager Class, [[2024]])}}</ul>
{{toydesigner|[[Evan Brooks]] and [[Mark Maher]] (Hasbro), [[Takio Ejima]], [[Takashi Kunihiro]], and [[Yūya Ōnishi]] (TakaraTomy)|[[Lenny Panzica]] (initial concept, Alpha Trion)}}<ref>[https://youtu.be/vuZHDR3ZBd8 Transformers Panel] at [[Hasbro Pulse Con 2022]] Day 1 on the [[Hasbro Pulse]] YouTube channel.</ref><ref>[[April 25]], [[2024]]'s [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s06YE02e844 Hasbro Pulse Transformers Fanstream | April 2024] on YouTube, with [[Ben MacCrae]], [[Mark Maher]] and [[Evan Brooks]].</ref>

:[[Alpha Trion/toys#Legacy|Alpha Trion]] and [[Vector Prime#Legacy|Vector Prime]] both received Voyager Class toys styled after their original solo appearances in the grab-bag ''[[Transformers: Legacy|''Legacy]]'' toyline, retooled from from ''[[Studio Series]]'' [[Scourge (G1)/toys#Studio Series|Scourge]] and the earlier ''Legacy'' [[Jhiaxus (G2)#Legacy|Jhiaxus]] respectively.

:While the figures feature little to no influence from their [[Transformers: The Covenant of Primus|''Covenant'']]-forward depictions, they do nonetheless include mystical doohickies that eventually featured in more Thirteen-centric stories, including Alpha Trion's longstanding conduit to Primus himself [[Vector Sigma#Legacy|Vector Sigma]] and the [[Cyber Key]] later characterized as the [[Zeonomicon#Legacy|Zeonomicon]] that Vector wrested from lesser-known Thirteen member [[Logos Prime]].

:[[Nova Prime#Legacy|Nova Prime]], meanwhile, received a Leader Class toy based on his non-Thirteen appearance in the ''[[Transformers: Devastation|Devastation]]'' video game retooled from ''[[War for Cybertron: Siege|Siege]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#S40|Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime]] (itself retooled from ''Siege'' [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Ultra Magnus]]) that subsequently colored his adventures as a member of the Thirteen in the ''[[Transformers: Earth Wars|Earth Wars]]'' mobile game.

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===''Age of the Primes''===
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{{Bp-pr5|[[Micronus Prime#Age of the Primes|'''The Thirteen Micronus Prime''']] (Deluxe Class, 2025)}}
{{Bp-pr1|[[Prima#Age of the Primes|'''The Thirteen Prima Prime''']] (Voyager Class, 2025)}}
{{Bp-pr3|[[Alpha Trion/toys#Age of the Primes|'''The Thirteen Alpha Trion''']] (Voyager Class, 2025)}}
{{Bp-pr12|[[The Fallen/toys#Age of the Primes|'''The Thirteen Megatronus the Fallen''']] (Leader Class, 2025)}}
{{Bp-pr8|[[Onyx Prime#Age of the Primes|'''The Thirteen Onyx Prime''']] (Leader Class, 2025)}}
{{Bp-pr13|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#Age of the Primes|'''The Thirteen Star Optimus Prime''']] (Titan Class, 2025)}}
{{Bp-pr10|[[Quintus Prime#Age of the Primes|'''The Thirteen Quintus Prime''']] (Deluxe Class, [[2026]])}}
{{Bp-pr9|[[Amalgamous Prime#Age of the Primes|'''The Thirteen Amalgamous Prime''']] (Voyager Class, 2026)}}
{{Bp-pr7|[[Nexus Prime#Age of the Primes|'''The Thirteen Nexus Prime''']] (Voyager Class, 2026)}}
{{Bp-pr11|[[Liege Maximo#Age of the Primes|'''The Thirteen Liege Maximo''']] (Leader Class, 2026)}}
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:{{toydesigner|[[Mark Maher]] (Hasbro), [[Yūya Ōnishi]], [[Shuhei Umezu]], [[Takashi Kunihiro]], [[Shogo Hasui]], and [[Hisashi Yuki]] (TakaraTomy)|[[Marcelo Matere]] (concept artist), [[Aaron Archer]] and [[Ken Christiansen]] (original concepts)}}

:Seven years after ''Power of the Primes'', hot off the heels of their role in ''Transformers One'', the Thirteen return to toy store shelves in the ''[[Transformers: Age of the Primes|Age of the Primes]]'' in full force as full-scale figures remixing aspects of their various depictions into "definitive" versions, [[Artifacts of the Primes|artifacts]], personal insignias and all.

:All Thirteen Primes are slated for production within the bounds of this two-year toyline with [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Generation 1 Optimus Prime]] in his [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#The Battlestars manga and story pages|Star <s>Convoy</s> Optimus Prime form]] cast in the role of the [[Thirteenth Prime|normally mysterious 13th member]], using the [[Zodiac]] as his artifact equivalent.<ref>{{citesocial|quote=The best part of the next 2 years is, you’ll not only collect the 13 primes but theres an amazing plethora of bots that are all descendents of the primes, you can collect them all, finish mini collections, and guess their energon bloodline.|link=https://www.instagram.com/p/DC2tKXARTg3/|name=Mark Maher|site=Instagram|year=2024|month=11|day=26}}</ref> All of their figures (barring [[Vector Prime]], who received [[#Legacy|a toy]] in the immediately preceding ''[[Transformers: Legacy#United|United]]'' [[subline imprint]] of the ''Legacy'' toyline) are new molds for the line,<ref>{{citesocial|quote=All 13 primes will be present but it will be broken over two years. They are all new molds (except vector)|link= https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/2025-generations-listings-united-wave-5-age-of-the-primes.1259609/page-965#post-22925515|name=Evan Brooks|site=Instagram|year=2024|month=12|day=8}}</ref> and those released in wave 1 have no currently-planned reuses (a rarity for the ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' toyline).<ref>{{citesocial|quote=As for Prima, there currently no plans for retools of those primes molds|link=https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/2025-generations-listings-united-wave-5-age-of-the-primes.1259609/page-1080#post-22950126|name=Evan Brooks|site=Instagram|year=2024|month=12|day=18}}</ref>

{{comingsoontoy|Nexus and Maximo}}

==Merchandise==
{{toystub|The inordinate amount of Thirteen swag produced by Hasbro Asia for ''Age of the Primes''}}

==Notes==
[[File:End of G1 Universe Thirteen Circle.jpg|thumb|right|300px|The [[Halo of Primus|Halo]] of [[Mortilus]], more like.]]
*The notion of the Primes being originally huge is similar to early ''Revenge of the Fallen'' concepts where the Fallen dwarfed Optimus and was almost the size of a pyramid, as evident from [[Defiance issue 4|''Defiance'' #4]] and the [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (novel)|novelization]].
*Brand mainstay [[Marcelo Matere]] purportedly designed the Thirteen's [[Insignia/Gallery#Religious symbols|sigils]] for the ''[[Power of the Primes (franchise)|Power of the Primes]]'' franchise in a ''single day''.<ref>"Spotlight: Marcelo Matere" panel at TFNation 2025</ref>
*It feels somewhat implausible that the paranormal beings [[Blue Bolts (RID)|Bluebolt]] invokes in her botched attempt at reviving [[Lio Convoy|Leo Prime]] from the dead in the [[Dark Amber Leo Prime (First)|first issue]] of ''[[The Transformers: End of G1 Universe|End of G1 Universe]]'' are intended to be the same group as the power-mad bureaucrats the duo were just brawling with in [[Age of Primes (End of G1 Universe)|issue #3]], but hey, we just work here. Presumably author [[Hayato Sakamoto]] did not expect to be hawking an entire Thirteen-centric toyline in the form of [[2026]]'s ''[[Transformers: Age of the Primes|Age of the Primes]]'' when slipping in the [[Halo of Primus]] for a cheeky ''Power of the Primes'' reference in [[2022]].
*[[Alpha Trion]], [[Vector Prime]] and [[Nova Prime]]'s character models in the ''[[Transformers: Earth Wars|Earth Wars]]'' mobile game's tie-in story arc for ''[[Transformers: Age of the Primes|Age of the Primes]]'' are all [[Show-accuracy|heavily styled after]] their respective ''[[Transformers: Legacy|Legacy]]'' toys.
**Somewhat unsurprisingly those Primes introduced since ([[The Fallen|Megatronus]] and [[Solus Prime|Solus]] as of this writing) have used their designs from ''Age of the Primes'' proper.
===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Saisho no Jūsannin no Prime''' (最初の13人のプライム, "Original 13 Primes")
*''Mandarin:'' '''Shísān Tiānyuán''' (十三天元, “Thirteen Ancestral Primes”)
*''Turkish:'' '''On Üç''' ("Thirteen")

==See also==
*[[Covenant (group)|Covenant]]
*[[Ancient]]
*[[Primus Vanguard]]

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Nexus Prime

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[[Image:NexusPrimeflankedbyotherPrimes.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Insert batteries where?!]]
One of the [[Thirteen|original Thirteen Primes]], the wild and unpredictable '''Nexus Prime''' is the first [[combiner]]. He is the bearer of the immensely consequential [[Artifacts of the Primes|artifact]] known as the [[Enigma of Combination]] and the lord of [[Rarified Energon]]—the stuff of [[spark]]s themselves—granting him a variety of mysterious powers above and beyond many of his siblings. Nexus' go-to problem solving method of scattering himself to the four winds has often proved the cause of, and solution to, all of his and his resultant sub-selves' problems. He also has a habit of hoarding the legendary blades forged by his sister [[Solus Prime]] whether they belong to him or not, considering himself the safest pair(s) of hands. How much these antics relate to his reputation as the prankster of the Thirteen is up for interpretation. His fragments include:

*[[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]] (A-10 Thunderbolt II, left leg)— a deep space explorer with the ability to project [[Force field|forcefields]]
*[[Landquake (Timelines)|Landquake]] (anti-aircraft tank, right arm)— a disaffected soldier with the power to forge [[Energon weapon|energon weapons]] unaided
*[[Breakaway (Classics)|Breakaway]] (fighter jet, left arm)— a mystical guardian with preternatural healing abilities
*[[Topspin (Classics)|Topspin]] (helicopter, right leg)— a credulous refugee with the power to manipulate sparks
*[[Heatwave (Timelines)|Heatwave]] (armored personnel carrier, torso)— a cheerful technician with ability to "speak" machinery to life

Unlike many of his descendants, Nexus Prime is highly mutable and not beholden to a single set of components. In [[Aligned continuity family|a different universe]], Nexus instead split himself into:

*[[Clocker (Prime)|Clocker]]— a [[Velocitron]]ian racer
*[[Mainspring]]— a Velocitronian mechanic
*[[Chaindrive]]— an Autobot soldier
*[[Pinion]]— a [[Junkion (species)|Junkion]] trader
*[[Cannonspring]]— a lost Cybertronian

Oh yeah, and he is responsible for [[Shroud|splintering]] himself and [[Multiversal singularity|his brethren]] across the [[Multiverse|multiverse]]. That was a pretty significant thing that happened.

He is sometimes, unfortunately, known as '''[[#Naming issues|Nexus Maximus]]'''.

==Fiction==
===Fun Publications===
When the Thirteen visited ancient Earth of some universal streams, Nexus Prime used a [[holomatter]] avatar which inspired the myth of the goddess Hera, trusted confidant of Zeus, who was [[Prima]]'s holomatter avatar. [[Vector Prime]] shared many fond memories with his siblings, including Nexus, and noted that there were universal streams where Nexus was known as Nexus [[Convoy (rank)|Convoy]].

Nexus Prime, Vector Prime, [[Alpha Trion]], and [[Solus Prime]] made the decision to split Nexus Prime into five pieces to conceal the location of the five fragments of Prima's [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|Star Saber]] sword, a weapon that could destroy star systems, from their evil brother [[The Fallen|Megatronus]]. Using the blade of the Star Saber, Nexus Prime was cut into five other robots: [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]], [[Landquake (Timelines)|Landquake]], [[Breakaway (Classics)|Breakaway]], [[Topspin (Classics)|Topspin]], and [[Heatwave (Timelines)|Heatwave]], who were subsequently scattered across the [[multiverse]] and lost to the ages. {{Storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}

But the skills of Nexus Prime are needed once again, and now that his components have been called together by Primus, he searches the multiverse for the components to the Star Saber sword, armed with his masterful control over all uses of [[energon]], and ability to manipulate [[spark]]s.

[[Image:Clubcombinercarving.jpg|200px|thumb|They drew his limbs arranged incorrectly!]]
The [[Caretaker]] told its components that Nexus Prime was "designated a [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]", like the other original thirteen. {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 6}}

When Landquake, Breakaway, Topspin, and Heatwave made an attempt to use their powers to revive the recently assassinated [[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]], they were transported—along with a revived Skyfall—to the presence of [[Primus]] in the "afterlife". He gave them a choice of living (or staying dead) as they were, or being reborn as what they were meant to be. After the gestalt members made their deliberations, Primus declared, "The choice is made. Arise, Nexus Prime," as they started the transformation. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 5}}

[[Image:OmegaDoomNexusPrimeGalvatron.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Behold the fingers my toy totally doesn't have!]]

Nexus Prime [[Reformatting|reformatted]] the dead Megatron into the powerful Galvatron, investing in him some of the power of the Thirteen. The two exited the Decepticon stronghold to counter [[Omega Doom]]'s offensive, but they were forced to split up when Doom launched a starkilling missile into Cybertron's sun. Though his Decepticon components protested leaving the battle, Nexus Prime knew saving this Cybertron's star system was of more immediate importance. Regardless, he was too late in stopping the missile, and its energies began to destroy the sun. Nexus began to concentrate.

Nexus returned to Cybertron triumphant, having used his own powers to negate those of the starkilling missile, and he made short work of Omega Doom, saving Galvatron in the nick of time. Though there was more on this Cybertron to do, such as finishing [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]] once and for all, Nexus Prime knew he had to depart this universe. After saying goodbye to [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]], he entered a portal with [[Aquarius (SG)|Aquarius]], trusting fate to bring him to the correct destination. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 6}}

Nexus Prime and Aquarius traveled from world to world, but without finding what Nexus Prime was looking for. Eventually, the pair arrived on [[Primax 509.28 Epsilon|one universe]]'s [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], where they were attacked by a group of smaller Decepticons who thought they had an easy mark. Though Nexus Prime was unwilling to use his more supernatural powers, lest he draw unwanted attention towards himself, he was still able to easily beat their attackers. As they left the group of dazed Decepticons behind, Nexus Prime and Aquarius wandered through a Cybertronian marketplace. Finally, Nexus Prime began to drop hints about what [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|mysterious artifact]] he was looking for; he hadn't yet clued Aquarius in. Ultimately, Nexus Prime spotted a shipping container with an [[Elite Guard]] symbol on it. This unlocked a memory in the ancient Transformer, allowing him to determine their next destination. He and Aquarius vanished through another portal to yet another dimension. {{storylink|The Coming Storm: Part 1}}

After several unspecified adventures, Aquarius ended up in Axiom Nexus and took charge of a shard of the Star Saber from a [[Chifumi Takahashi|courier]]. In exchange, he promised to help her get home. {{storylink|Transformers I.Q.#issue 48|Transformers I.Q. last issue review}} To their surprise, however, they ended up on the Cybertron of Aquarius's home reality. It soon became obvious that Nexus had transported them there in order to receive the [[Origin Matrix]], the fifth and final piece, from [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Ultra Mammoth]]. {{storylink|Transformers I.Q.#issue 54|Transformers I.Q. trivia bonus #12}} {{storylink|Falling into Place}}

[[File:AnotherLight-choppitychop.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.66|"...''Transformers: Prime'' will never make a dozen episodes about finding you."]]

While waiting for Nexus Prime's arrival, Ultra Mammoth confronted his negative counterpart [[Ultra Magnus (SG)|Ultra Magnus]], who was wielding the [[Terminus Blade]] on Earth. After the Origin Matrix inadvertently supercharged the Blade, Nexus Prime's components arrived in time to combine the Matrix with the other elements to reform the Star Saber. Prima's great sword severed the evil Magnus's arm, and Nexus Prime banished the insane Autobot to a dimension suitable for his temperament. With the Star Saber and Terminus Blade in hand, Nexus Prime set about undoing what damage he could from Magnus's abuse of the weapon. {{storylink|Restoration}}

In multidimensional space, Nexus Prime found he could not undo the destruction of universes already caused by the Terminus Blade. Aware that his actions would not be without consequences to himself, Nexus Prime brought the Saber and Blade together. He strengthened the existing walls between dimensions to prevent further inter-universe decay. He bolstered dying universes that had not yet succumbed to Ultra Magnus, hoping they might still survive. In the process, however, the strengthened walls could no longer support the fluidity of multiversal singularities. Nexus Prime felt himself and his fellow Thirteen splintering, existing as independent beings in each reality they manifested in, instead of thirteen singularities. {{storylink|Out of the One, Many}} In [[Primax -408.24 Epsilon|one universe]], Nexus Prime's individual components reconstituted themselves as a group of low-ranking Decepticons known as Heatwave, [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skytop]], [[Landquake (Timelines)|Landfall]], [[Breakaway (Classics)|Quakebreak]], and [[Topspin (Classics)|Spinaway]]. Although they retained their ability to combine, this "new" Nexus Prime was significantly less coordinated than his predecessor, and his components didn't believe the stories that they had once been some kind of multiversal guardian. {{storylink|Coalescence}}
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===Aligned continuity family===
====''The Covenant of Primus''====
[[Image:5NexusPrime.jpg|thumb|200px]]
Nexus Prime was the seventh member of the Thirteen created by Primus with the purpose of fighting against and defeating Unicron. As the first and greatest combiner, he could separate himself into multiple independent components and combine them at will. Nexus, like his siblings who were created between [[Prima]] and [[The Fallen|Megatronus]], was balanced between the personalities of Primus and Unicron.

Nexus was part of the '''Free Agents''', which included [[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]], [[Solus Prime]], and the [[Thirteenth Prime]]: capable of both direct battle and subtle attacks. As the Primes trained with each other, Solus created the [[Cyber Caliber]] for him, which could split into smaller swords. Nexus would follow Solus into the portal leading to Unicron, entering Unicron's body to harm him from within. All of Nexus' components struggled with the overpowering corruption of Unicron's Dark Energon, but the words of ''Thirteen'', "All Are One", would help him keep fighting. Eventually, Unicron was defeated and Nexus returned to Cybertron with his siblings.

As the [[Age of Primes]] began, Nexus devoted his time to his creative interests, having no interest in the politics of Prima's group. During the [[War of the Primes]], when the Primes came together to vote on whether [[Liege Maximo]]'s [[Farm]] should be shut down or not, Nexus voted with Prima to shut it down. Sometime later, Nexus would join Prima, [[Vector Prime]], [[Alpha Trion]], [[Micronus Prime]], and ''Thirteen'' in finding Megatronus after the death of Solus Prime. Nexus would take his Cyber Caliber when all the Primes visited the Farm, which led to infighting among the Primes.

Nexus Prime would survive the War of the Primes, but the memory of his existence would fade away into myth and legend. Several stellar cycles later, the five components of Nexus Prime -- [[Cannonspring]], [[Mainspring]], [[Pinion]], [[Clocker (Prime)|Clocker]], and [[Chaindrive]] -- would briefly reunite as Nexus Prime, giving [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] his sword. {{storylink|Transformers: The Covenant of Primus|The Covenant of Primus}}

====Aligned novels====
Known as the "Wizard of Forms", Nexus Prime was all about change and mutability. When standing alone, his body seemed to shift or be overlaid with ever-changing forms and combinations he might take. Powerful, proud, and frequently unpredictable even to those who knew him best, Nexus Prime was full of good humor and a bit of a prankster at times. He was the "mad experimenter" of the Thirteen and is fascinated by changing states of matter and the creation of new elements in solar forges. This shared affinity for creation led [[Solus Prime]], the "Maker" of the Thirteen, to have special feelings for Nexus, which in turn seemed to have earned him the enmity of [[The Fallen|Megatronus]] and [[Liege Maximo]].

Nexus Prime was last seen by Alpha Trion before the [[Age of Wrath]], taking custody of many of Solus Prime's creations, including the Cyber Caliber, the [[Chaos Edge]], the [[Blades of Time]], and the [[Omni Saber]].
The Omni Saber was a part of Nexus Prime's body, and he secreted the Cyber Caliber away inside his form as well before splitting himself into five component robots: Clocker, Mainspring, Chaindrive, Pinion, and Cannonspring.
Each component held a fraction of the Cyber Caliber within themselves and was also charged with guarding one of the Blades of Time. Only by assembling the Blades of Time and using them to open a gateway to the hollow [[Realm of the Primes|realm]] of Vector Prime could the Cyber Caliber be reassembled. The [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|Star Saber]] was believed to have been taken by Nexus Prime but was not in his possession during the [[Great Exodus]].

The sub-selves of Nexus Prime scattered throughout the colony worlds of Cybertron. They remained apart for so long that each forgot their true nature, and no longer recalled being part of Nexus Prime or the Thirteen. All but Cannonspring even forgot their duty to safeguard the Blades of Time and the Cyber Caliber. Clocker and Mainspring wound up on [[Velocitron]], where they remained slightly out of place as mechanics instead of the speed-driven racers who ruled the planet. Pinion ended up on [[Junkion (planet)|Junkion]], assimilating well into the culture (perhaps because the Junkion way of constantly reusing materials appealed to the subconscious preference of Nexus Prime for change). Chaindrive found himself on Cybertron, and eventually became part of the Autobot resistance movement alongside [[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]] and Alpha Trion after the Ark's departure. Cannonspring ended up in a crippled ship in Cybertron's deep orbit, until the prospector [[Axer (Prime)|Axer]] triggered some latent transwarp energy on board, transporting them both to Junkion. Cannonspring remained inert for over a million years inside his ship after it crashed.

Nexus Prime began to come together once more thanks to the Matrix, which directed Optimus Prime through space to the various colony worlds. As the Ark came to Velocitron, Optimus discovered two pieces of the Blades of Time and fatefully agreed to bring Clocker and Mainspring on the next leg of his journey when they asked. On Junkion, Prime encountered Pinion while recovering a third Blade, and the fourth was retrieved from Axer. Meanwhile, back on Cybertron, Alpha Trion and [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] concocted a method of sending a scout after Optimus Prime by keying residual Space Bridge energy to the signature of the Matrix. Instinctively, Alpha Trion decided Chaindrive was the proper choice, and he brought with him the fifth Blade. Once all five Blades and the other four components assembled on Junkion, the combined energy was enough to rekindle the inert Cannonspring, bringing him back to full functioning and allowing them to reassemble into Nexus Prime.

Displaying the ability to hold more weapons than an armory, Nexus Prime pulled forth both his Omni Saber and the Chaos Edge, and also passed the Cyber Caliber over to Optimus Prime. Although he refused to kill anyone, Nexus Prime essentially held off the Decepticons and the [[Star Seeker]]s for a time, on intimidation alone. As [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] and [[Thundertron]] left to pursue other goals, Nexus Prime reclaimed his swords and gave some last words of encouragement to Optimus Prime before splitting himself once more. Reduced to a new set of five protoforms, Nexus Prime vanished into space and the annals of history once more. {{storylink|Transformers: Exiles|Exiles}}

====''Prime'' cartoon====
According to legend, at the beginning of time, [[Unicron]] and [[Primus]] battled each other for eons, with neither side remaining victorious for long. Till, that is, Primus created the [[Thirteen]]. These Thirteen defeated Unicron and cast him into space. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}
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===2005 IDW continuity===
{{first|[[Earthfall Part 3: The Mind Bomb|''Robots in Disguise'' #30]] (mentioned); [[The Crucible|#34]] (depicted)}}

[[File:OriginMyths-ThePrimes.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Love child of Silverbolt and Wheeljack.]]

In the primitive age that followed the departure of the [[Knights of Cybertron]], Nexus Prime joined his [[Thirteen Tribes|tribe]] with those of [[Solus Prime|Solus]], [[Vector Prime|Vector]], [[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]] and [[Alpha Trion]] in [[Crystal City]]. Like the other four, he knew [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Onyx Prime]] but he himself was disgusted by Onyx's bestial horde and took time to become acclimated to them. He had a brother in the east who ruled his own kingdom. {{storylink|Origin Myths}} Nexus was the first recorded owner of the mysterious artifact known as the [[Enigma of Combination]]. He evidently chose to keep the artifact's true nature as a physical object a secret, with most believing the "Enigma" part of the name referred to a puzzle that had to be solved to allow for [[Combiner|combination]]. {{storylink|The Crucible}}

One evening, Vector Prime barged in on a meeting to announce the approach of Onyx and [[Liege Maximo|a crony]], as well as the news that [[Septimus Prime]] had perished and that [[The Fallen|the conqueror]] of [[Protihex|his lands]] was on the warpath across Cybertron. Despite Solus and Onyx's dismissal, Nexus felt Septimus had still been a Prime such as they were before he asked who Onyx's minion was, the newcomer introducing himself as Liege Maximo, who had also lost his lands to the army of [[Darklands|Darklanders]]. At Alpha Trion's urging, the Primes allowed Onyx and Liege Maximo into their alliance. When the time of battle came, Nexus wished to join his followers in combat but remained behind at Solus's urging. After the [[Titan (group)|Titans]] arrived, Onyx leapt into the fray only to recognize the enemy commander as his old friend Megatronus. Nexus was shocked at this development, before the eight Primes joined forces. In the aftermath, [[Arcee (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Arcee]] expressed the belief that the alliance would attract Nexus's brother to him. {{storylink|Origin Myths}} Unbeknownst to the Primes, the 'bot they believed to be Onyx Prime was in fact a time-travelling Shockwave from ten million years in the future who had engineered the entire conflict to bring the Primes together as history recorded. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

[[File:RID34 enigma of combination.jpg|thumb|left|250px|My Enigma don't go to none if they're lowborn, hun.]]

Power turned Nexus into something of a git really, believing that all non-Primes should serve their Prime masters. {{storylink|The Crucible}} Among the members of his court was a [[Titan Master]] by the name of [[Infinitus]], who wholeheartedly believed in his master's elitist approach to social engineering. {{storylink|White Heat}} The Thirteen Primes ruled their planet peacefully until Liege Maximo and Megatronus conspired together, goaded on by Shockwave's machinations, and started the [[First Cybertronian Civil War]] via the murder of Solus Prime. While Megatronus fled Cybertron, Nexus and [[Quintus Prime|Quintus]] managed to restrain Maximo, before trying and exiling him aboard [[Vigilem]]. {{storylink|Heavy}} {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

Nexus allied himself with "Onyx Prime" during the war and used his [[Enigma of Combination]] to create the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]]: humanoid Transformers combined with beasts. {{storylink|The Crucible}} [[Galvatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Galvatron]] found the whole concept disgusting and single-handedly slaughtered the Headmasters before coming after Nexus himself. Nexus sneered that Galvatron was a "lowborn" that couldn't kill him, and Galvatron responded by doing just that. The realization that a Prime could be killed by someone other than another Prime caused most of the remaining Primes to flee the planet. {{storylink|The Crucible}}

He was survived by Infinitus, who vowed to keep his master's teachings alive and eventually apply them to all of Cybertron–especially the parts about forced servitude to the Primes. {{storylink|White Heat}} Nexus's [[Titan (group)|Titan]], [[Devisiun (Titan)|Devisiun]], also survived the war and colonized [[Devisiun (planet)|a planet]] in honor of his master which the younger Shockwave eventually seeded with [[Ore-5]]. {{storylink|Ceremony|The Lost Colonies of Cybertron}}
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===''Prime Wars Trilogy'' cartoons===
[[Victorion]] claimed to only follow the will of Nexus Prime, though she admitted he hadn't given her any new guidance in some time. {{storylink|Desperate Actions}}

===''Power of the Primes'' marketing material===
Nexus Prime's [[Spark]] passed into the possession of one of the twelve [[Prime Master]]s; hidden within a suit of decoy armor, they safeguarded the abilities of the Primes until the present day. By uniting with a larger Transformer, the Prime Master could channel the powers of Nexus's Spark and grant them unique abilities that varied with each new partner. {{storylink|Power of the Primes (toyline)|Power of the Primes}}

{{note|For a list of every permutation of Nexus Prime's abilities, see [[Prime Master/Combinations|this link]].}}

===''Cyberverse'' cartoon===
Nexus Prime was one of the [[Thirteen]]. {{storylink|Dweller In The Depths (Cyberverse)|Dweller In The Depths}} {{storylink|Silent Strike}} {{storylink|The Other One}}

Nexus Prime eventually passed, being buried with all of his worldly possessions on another planet. Following the [[Quintesson]] invasion of Cybertron, [[Grimlock (Cyberverse)|Grimlock]] and [[Arcee (Cyberverse)|Arcee]] grave-robbed him. {{storylink|The Immobilizers}}

===2019 IDW continuity===
[[File:SeaOfRustI-NexusPrime.jpg|thumb]]
Nexus Prime, the holder of the Enigma of Combination, was one of the Thirteen Primes. {{storylink|Lord of Misrule: Sea of Rust I|Sea of Rust I}} It was said that Primus had created Nexus as a being of controlled chaos, introducing necessary change into Cybertronian society to prevent stagnation. {{storylink|Lord of Misrule: Enigmatic|Enigmatic}}

===''One'' film===
[[File:TransformersOne-ThePrimesholograms.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Nexus is the holographic guy on the farthest left!]]
{{voiceactor|[[Manuel Pérez]] (Latin-American Spanish)}}
One of the original Thirteen Primes, Nexus Prime ruled alongside his fellows until the [[Quintesson]]s invaded Cybertron. When the Primes were directed by [[Sentinel Prime (One)|Sentinel]] to a meeting of Quintesson generals, they found it an ambush. Despite being caught off-guard, the Primes managed to turn the tide of the battle before Sentinel betrayed them, stabbing Nexus and using his weapon to slay several of the Primes. Fifty cycles later, the spirits of the Primes appeared before Orion Pax when he was bestowed the [[Matrix of Leadership]] and became [[Optimus Prime (One)|Optimus Prime]]. {{storylink|Transformers One (film)|One}}
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===Energon Universe===
After Optimus Prime found himself in the [[Hall of the Primes]], he saw a statue of Nexus Prime among the others. {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 22|Transformers #22}}
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==Games==
===''Transformers: Earth Wars''===
;'''Nexus Prime Core'''
[[File:Earth Wars Nexus Prime Core.jpg|thumb|upright=0.6]]

Nexus Prime's [[Prime Master#Transformers: Earth Wars|Prime Core]] (his "heart" as one of the primordial [[Thirteen|Thirteen Primes]]) fell to Earth under mysterious circumstances along with those of his siblings to become a hotly contested resource in the [[Earth Wars (conflict)|Earth Wars]]. {{storylink|Power of the Primes (Earth Wars)|Power of the Primes}}

*'''Effect:''' Additional damage to enemy [[Transformers: Earth Wars#Combiners|Combiner]]s. If the [[Transformers: Earth Wars#Standard Bots|Bot]] this Core is affixed to is deployed before your Combiner phase, your Combiner has increased attack power and damage negation.

[https://tfew.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4733780017183-Prime-Cores-Bot Nexus Prime Core at Transformers: Earth Wars Wiki]

{{chargamestub|{{storylink|Transformers: Earth Wars}}}}

===''Transformers Roleplaying Game''===
Nexus Prime was a stalwart ally of Prima and the first combiner. {{storylink|Transformers One Sourcebook}} At the dawn of history, Nexus Prime received the [[Enigma of Combination]]. Some historical texts instead remembered him instead as "Nexus Maximus", {{storylink|The Enigma of Combination}} his original name, {{storylink|Transformers One Sourcebook}} while some ancient humans knew him as {{w|Juno (mythology)|Juno}}. {{storylink|The Enigma of Combination}}

==Toys==
===''Cybertron'', ''Classics'', and ''Timelines''===
[[Image:Timelinestoy-NexusMaximus.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Remember to use the instructions! You don't want to put something in the wrong hole.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|[[Skyfall (Cybertron)#Cybertron|Skyfall]] ([[2005]])}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|[[Landquake (Timelines)#Timelines|Landquake]] ([[2006]])}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|[[Breakaway (Classics)#Classics|Breakaway]] ([[2007]])}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|[[Topspin (Classics)#Classics|Topspin]] ([[2008]])}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-sd|[[Heatwave (Timelines)#Timelines|Heatwave]] ([[2009]])}}</ul>
{{toydesigner|[[Dan Khanna]] (concept artist)}}

:Nexus Maximus is composed of his five team members, with Heatwave forming his central body component. His limbs' [[energon weapon]]s form his hands and feet. Conisisting of [[redeco]]s of components of the ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' combiners, Nexus Maximus, just like [[Superion Maximus]], [[Bruticus Maximus (Energon)|Bruticus Maximus]], and [[Constructicon Maximus]], features universal connection points for the limbs, allowing many different combinations and even swapping of limbs from different teams, in a fashion very similar to ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]'''s "[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)#1986 (Scramble City and Transformers 2010)|Scramble City]]"-type combiner teams. Unlike the other Maximus-style combiners, Nexus Maximus features four unique molds for his limb pieces, rather than two redecoed to fit both the legs and arms, due to him using both [[Destruction Team]] and [[Air Team]] molds. Whereas the individual components' robot modes still feature the same head sculpts as the ''Energon'' figures they're redecoed from, the combined form of Nexus Maximus himself was given an entirely new, unique head sculpt, which is an amalgamation of visual elements of its components' own heads: Skyfall's eyes, Landquake's chin, Breakaway's forehead, Topspin's "mohawk", and Heatwave's "ears".

:Nexus Maximus is the combined form of the first five [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] freebie toys, which were released over the span of five years in different toyline brandings for the components.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/TFCCNexusMaximus/nexusmaximus.htm More information on Nexus Maximus at TFU.info]''
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===''Power of the Primes''===
[[File:TF-PotP-SDCC-2018-Throne-of-the-Primes-Nexus-Prime.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb]]
<ul class = "iconlist>{{Bp-m1|'''Throne of the Primes''' (Leader Class, [[2018]])}}</ul>
:*''Takara ID number'': '''PP-43'''
:*''TakaraTomy release date'': [[January 26]], [[2019]]
{{toydesigner|[[Marcelo Matere]] (throne designer, packaging artist)}}

:''[[Power of the Primes (toyline)|Power of the Primes]]'' Nexus Prime is a retool of the [[Maccadam#Power of the Primes|Alchemist Prime]]/[[Submarauder (G1)#Power of the Primes|Submarauder]] inner robot with a new [[Prime Master]] sigil/backpack, packaged in the [[Throne of the Primes#Toys|Throne of the Primes]] set.

:This toy has identical features to the other Prime Masters in the line. The [[Titan Master]]-like robot can store inside decoy armor or ride [[Size class|Legends Class]] figures in vehicle mode, and is fully compatible with toys from the previous ''[[Titans Return (toyline)|Titans Return]]'' line. The "Power Swap" gimmick means its [[spark]] form can plug onto any decoy armor's weapon form (which has a [[5 mm post]] to be held by larger figures), Deluxe Class figures' chest armor, Voyager Class figures' bucklers, Leader Class figures' [[Matrix of Leadership/toys#Power of the Primes|Matrix]] (in place of their Matrix core), [[combiner]]s' torsos (in place of their [[Enigma of Combination]]), or the included [[Scepter of Sparks]] or [[Halo of Primus]] accessories. With the power of [[you]]r imagination, this bestows the Prime Master's [[Prime Master/Combinations|unique power]] on the larger figure.

:While Nexus is a retool of Alchemist Prime (gang-molded with his included Submarauder decoy armor), it is unknown what gang-molded decoy armor Nexus would have had as a hypothetical mass-retail Prime Master.

:This set debuted at [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2018, and was later sold via [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] online. It was also available at general retail in Taiwan.
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===''Age of the Primes''===
[[File:AOTP-Nexus-Prime.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|What do you ''mean'' I'm not the [[Amalgamous Prime#Age of the Primes|Prime that splits into multiple components]]??]]
<ul class = "iconlist>{{Bp-pr7|'''The Thirteen Nexus Prime''' (Voyager Class, [[2026]])}}</ul>
:*''Accessories'': [[Enigma of Combination#Age of the Primes|The Enigma of Combination]], 2 wings/blasters
{{toydesigner|[[Mark Maher]] (Hasbro), [[Shogo Hasui]] (TakaraTomy)}}<ref name=AOTPDeepDive>[[February 3]], [[2026]]'s [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzWSj4wlnqM Transformers Age of the Primes Deep Dive | In-Hand Look at the New Wave | February 2026] with [[Evan Brooks]], [[Mark Maher]], and [[Nate Purswell]].</ref>

:Released in the fifth wave of ''[[Transformers: Age of the Primes|Age of the Primes]]'' Voyager Class toys, Nexus Prime is mostly based on his ''[[Transformers One (film)|Transformers One]]'' design with a few specific details lifted from his ''Covenant of Primus'' design and [[Dan Khanna]]'s original concept art, with the color scheme of his [[#Toys|''Cybertron'' / ''Classics'' / ''Timelines'' toy]], transforming into a Cybertronian <s>flying brick</s> "jet tank".<ref>{{citesocial|link=https://www.hasbropulse.com/product/transformers-age-of-the-primes-voyager-class-the-thirteen-nexus-prime/G20015X00|quote=Convert between bot and jet tank in 23 steps.|name=Hasbro Pulse|title=Transformers Age of the Primes Voyager Class The Thirteen Nexus Prime}}</ref>

:He includes 3 accessories: two removable wings that can function as 5 mm-compatible blasters, and his [[Artifacts of the Primes|Artifact]], the Enigma of Combination, which is naturally branded with his personal sigil. While it nominally stores underneath his nosecone, it can also be hand-held (or mounted on whatever [[5 mm post]]-hole you feel like). His wings can also be hinged backwards in robot mode for an even more ''Covenant'' / ''One'' accurate appearance. The jet-mode "thrusters" molded near his wrists are fully [[Fire Blast effect|blast effect]] compatible, and reference the many times Nexus has adorned some form of forearm-mounted artillery.

:[[File:AOTP Nexus Prime Combinations.jpg|thumb|left|''I'll wear my grandkids' clothes'']]
:Rather than being the entire combiner as he is usually depicted, this Nexus Prime forms only a combiner torso, with a headsculpt based on his ''Covenant of Primus'' design. Dedicated limb-bots for a full combiner are planned for [[2027]].<ref name=AOTPDeepDive/>

:Until then, the combiner torso is compatible with ''Age of the Primes'' [[Silverbolt (G1)#Age of the Primes|Silverbolt's]] combiner frame, attaching by rotating the upper torso 180 degrees, allowing the bulk of Nexus to show as a chestplate rather than be covered up by [[Superion (G1)#Age of the Primes|Superion's]] chestplate. As they use the same frame system, the Nexus torso is also directly compatible with the arms of ''Age of the Primes'' [[Bruticus (G1)#Age of the Primes|Bruticus]] while his and ''[[Transformers: Legacy|Legacy]]'' Menasor's legs can be swapped onto the Superion frame. Additionally, Nexus in vehicle mode is able to attach to front of Silverbolt's booster kibble.

:Nexus Prime went through quite a few ideas in the planning process, including originally being a Leader Class, an all-in-one combiner, and a [[Duocon]].<ref name=AOTPDeepDive/>

:The toy was officially revealed when it went up for preorder on Tuesday, [[February 3]], 2026, although Maher posted a video of it in [https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUOa17xD9xC its combined form to Instagram] two days beforehand. This was presumably because retail pictures of the figure had leaked, which caused a great deal of [[fandom]] anxiety over him apparently not being a combiner.
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==Notes==
[[File:NexusPrimeHead.jpg|thumb|upright=1.75|]]
*Nexus Prime's backstory bears a noticeable similarity to that of {{w|Voltron}}.
*Nexus Prime's TFCC magazine profile mentions that he "no longer has an [[alternate mode]]", due to being split apart for so long and then reassembled.
*Like other members of the Thirteen, Nexus was originally established as a [[multiversal singularity]] who existed as one being across all space and time, but that is [[Shroud|no longer the case]].
*As depicted in the Covenant of Primus, all five of his known components are visible on the right side of the body: a tank (Landfall) and jet (Breakaway) making up one arm, and a helicopter (Topspin) and jet (Skyquake) making up one leg. Hasbro designer [[Aaron Archer]]'s intent was that, as the ultimate combiner, Nexus Prime was not limited to just five components, but could instead combine with any number of robots.<ref name=reinterpretation>{{citesocial
|quote=I would suggest that instead of calling it a misrepresentation, call it a reinterpretation. The Cov. version of Nexus Prime as represented in the book, not only has a rearranged parts, all known (5) parts are represented on the viewable side, he is made up of at least ten parts, half hidden in shadow (other than elements of a carrier type jet) as they were not full named or fully realized characters - it was Aaron Archer's direction that he not be only confined to 5 members, but his core made him combine-able with anyone, as he is a god character. Along with the face detail being moved around, I also did several sketches with him as ever more laden with combiner parts, walking hunched over ala RotF Devastator, or more wide stanced with 4 arms. |link=https://roseknightmare.tistory.com/2760 |name=Ken Christiansen |site=blog post |title=Nexus Prime's design behind story |year=2025 |month=11 |day=26}}</ref>
*Nexus Prime's head design varies greatly across his depictions. The design—an amalgamation of traits from his components' heads—is meant to evoke a superhero cowl (similiar to [[Batman]]), with his head covered in armor but his mouth exposed. However, the deco used for his mouth is almost completely black, making it difficult to see. ''The Covenant of Primus'' reinterpreted his mouth area as a visor, his chin as a [[Roadbuster (G1)|Roadbuster]]-esque [[mouthplate]], and his actual eyes as forehead detail. It also tweaked the sides of his head into antenna and circular details resembling those of Optimus Prime. Artist [[Ken Christiansen]] has stated that these changes were deliberate reinterpretation.<ref name=reinterpretation /> Most subsequent incarnations have followed the Covenant interpretation; as a result of this game of telephone, his big screen debut in ''[[Transformers One (film)|Transformers One]]'' bears almost no resemblance to his original design (save for the upper-torso, which is nearly 1:1).
*[[Volcanicus (Cyberverse)|''Cyberverse'' Volcanicus]]'s head is based on the Covenant's Nexus Prime design, albeit with a mouth and chin-guard resembling Nexus's original design.

===Naming issues===
[[Fun Publications]] originally submitted the possible names '''Prime Nexus''' and '''Maximus Prime''' to [[Hasbro]] for the character (reflecting the fact that the character is a Prime in-fiction), Hasbro rejected these, apparently because they were feeling protective towards the use of the name Prime (despite previously having approved the fiction that named him a Prime, written by their own [[Forest Lee]]). Hasbro suggested merging the non-Prime segments of the two names instead... oops.

Apparently neither Hasbro nor Fun Publications did their research when naming Nexus Maximus, because there is another product which shares that name and was, as of [[May 24]], [[2009]], the top Google result (websites relating to this character have since surpassed it). While it is definitely a "toy", it is most assuredly not intended for ages 5 and up. According to the Fun Publications Club panel at [[BotCon 2009]], Hasbro did a search for the name with "safe search" on, causing them to not see... well, [http://www.edenfantasys.com/dildos/double-ended-dildos/nexus-maximus this]. '''NOTE: DEFINITELY NOT SAFE FOR WORK.'''

When he finally appeared in fiction, his name was, in fact, given as Nexus Prime, which makes much better sense story-wise but deprives us of many cheap and easy joke opportunities. [[Pete Sinclair]] posted an image on the [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] forums of [[Aquarius (SG)|Aquarius]] blaming the "Nexus Maximus" name on a bad translation by [[Beta Maxx (RID)|Beta Maxx]].<ref>[https://tilallaremine.wordpress.com/2011/05/31/nexus-prime/ Definitely, definitely, *not* Nexus Maximus. Timelines Nexus Prime!] from 'Til All Are Mine blog.</ref>

(The debate is still on as to whether Nexus Maximus constitutes a choking hazard.)

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Nexus Prime''' (ネクサスプライム ''Nekusasu Puraimu'')
*''Mandarin:'' '''Jīng Tiān Wěi''' (经天纬)

==Gallery==
<gallery>
NexusPrimeDanKhannaConcept.jpg|Original ''Timelines'' concept art
NexusPrime-TFOnecardcropped.jpg|''One'' film
</gallery>

==References==
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Liege Maximo

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Alientraveller: /* Age of the Primes */ I think it's worth noting this nose and mouth design, after noticing how the IDW homage did portray the G2 red mouthpiece as a maw

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[[File:Liegemaximo.jpg|upright=2.3|thumb|Here I go again on my throne.]]
Evil is infinite, a natural counterforce to good in the universe that can never be truly defeated. None strikes greater fear into the [[sparks]] of Transformers than the horned demon, destroyer of worlds—wait, no, that's [[Unicron|his uncle]]. Still, of the [[Thirteen]] primordial deities, there is one whose planet-shaking evil was so unforgivable that—no, wait, that's [[The Fallen|his brother]].

Look, the '''Liege Maximo''' is still pretty evil, okay? Either he's the Prime of pure evil—the inevitable counterpart of the goodness embodied in [[Prima|the first Prime]], the root of [[Decepticon|all evil]], his name [[Maximal#2005 IDW continuity|reverberating through the ages]]—''ooor'' he's the Prime of lies. He's definitely at least one of those.

And what evil plans he has! [[Hot Rod (ES)|Manipulating others]] with his silver tongue, gathering [[Emberstone|artifacts]] and [[Cybertronian (faction)|allies]], biding his time, waiting for the planets to come into [[Hub (G2)|alignment]]. Boy are the Transformers in for it. Darts will be involved! You know—the [[Liegian Darts]]? The Liege Maximo's famous darts. Trust him, it's going to be epic.

==Fiction==
===Marvel ''Generation 2'' comic===
From the Liege Maximo were [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] and the [[Decepticon]]s descended. The Liege Maximo's throne sat at the [[Hub (G2)|Hub]], a network of planetoids created by the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian Empire]] that existed in the outer fringes of known space.

With the [[Liege Centuro]] [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] destroyed, Jhiaxus's fleet wiped out by [[Swarm (G2)|The Swarm]], and the [[Autobot]]s and Decepticons united in peace under one banner, [[Rook (G2)|Rook]] reported to the Liege Maximo on the day's devastating events. The Liege Maximo, an ancient and monumental titan, accepted the destruction of Jhiaxus's forces as merely a minor disruption. Sneering at the Transformers' alliance as a fragile thing, the Liege Maximo promised a day of reckoning. {{storylink|A Rage in Heaven!|A Rage in Heaven!}}

====Alignment====
{{note|"Alignment" was written by [[Simon Furman]] without permission of [[Hasbro]] and is included here as [[pseudocanon]] to provide insight into [[authorial intent]].}}
[[File:Alignment Liege Maximo.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|Woe, darts be upon ye]]
Liege Maximo was one of the [[Thirteen|thirteen original Transformers]] created by [[Primus]]. Unlike his fellows, he had chosen not to [[Reproduction|subdivide]] repeatedly, doing so only selectively. This created a small taint in the Transformer race which spread through subsequent generations, ultimately flowering with the rise of the Decepticons. Because of this sparse sub-division, the Liege Maximo's connection to the divine origins of the Transformer race was comparatively undiluted, and he sought to embrace it. To this end, he instructed Jhiaxus and the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian Empire]] to subject various planets to [[cyberforming|eco-structuring]]. These planets were steadily woven together to form the Hub, a massive, resonating structure that would allow him to ascend to the realm of the gods. Two Transformer groups, one led by [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] and one by [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Ultra Magnus]] and [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]], disrupted this process by forcing the Liege to leave his corporeal body, then destroying both it and his portal. Left with nowhere to go, the Liege Maximo's essence dissipated, and he was destroyed. {{storylink|Alignment}}

====Ask Vector Prime====
In [[Primax 490.0 Gamma]], the Maximo actually became a heroic figure: Unicron devouring Cybertron had caused Primus's essence to be scattered among the surviving Transformers, most of whom were now the Cybertronian Empire. The Liege Maximo would lead this reformed army and the survivors of Cybertron against Unicron, finally battling the Chaos Bringer himself on the astral plane. He saved this reality at the cost of his own spark. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/06/24}}

In [[Primax 994.0 Gamma]], the Liege Maximo's plot for ascension was foiled by the Autobots, prompting Liege Centuro [[Firecrest]] to move the remnants of the Cybertronian Empire to [[Planet X (Cybertron)|Planet X]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/06/05}}

===3H comics===
The [[Covenant (group)|Covenant]] witnessed a vision of the ancient past, in which the Liege Maximo tore the [[Matrix of Leadership]] from the defeated [[Primon]]. When and why this happened remain unanswered questions. {{storylink|Covenant (story)|Covenant}}

Centuries later, in a future timeline when Cybertron was ruled by a tyrant named [[Shokaract]], a [[Maximal]] resistance leader known simply as "the [[Swoop (G1)|Veteran]]" reminisced about other tyrants who had come and gone over the years preceding Shokaract's rule. Among these past tyrants was the Liege Maximo. {{storylink|Schism (story)|Schism}}

===''TransTech''===
The city of [[Axiom Nexus]] in the peaceful universe of [[Nexus 208.0 Epsilon]] was able to achieve unimaginable feats in technology and scientific discovery, but these were secretly possible by the amoral experiments of [[Shockwave (TransTech)|Shockwave]] and his master [[Jhiaxus (TransTech)|Jhiaxus]] under a secret government partnership with the Liege Maximo.<ref>[[Shockwave (TransTech)|Shockwave]]'s profile in [[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 22|''Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club'' #22]].</ref> An archivist named [[Optimus Prime (TransTech)|Optimus]] and the military professional [[Megatron (TransTech)|Megatron]] exposed [[Sentinel Prime (TransTech)|Sentinel Prime]]'s ties with the Liege Maximo. After a dramatic, violent battle with the Liege Maximo,<ref>[[Megatron (TransTech)|Megatron]]'s profile in [[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 24|''Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club'' #24]].</ref> much of the government was caught in this controversy, and as a result, few were left standing when the legal proceedings ended. Optimus became the new [[Prime (rank)|Prime]], and Cybertron entered a new [[Golden Age]], but it was not a complete fresh start, as Megatron convinced the [[High Senate]] to allow Shockwave to continue performing experiments under his guidance, and [[Starscream (TransTech)|Starscream]] miraculously emerged unscathed from the incident despite his heavy involvement.<ref>[[Starscream (TransTech)|Starscream]]'s profile in [[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 23|''Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club'' #23]].</ref> The TransTechs thereafter considered this incident to be the closest that their Cybertron had ever come to a [[Great War (disambiguation)|Great War]] as most other universal streams had. {{storylink|Rook - Axiom Nexus News: Investigative Journalist|Rook - Axiom Nexus News, 2015/05/06}}

===Aligned continuity family===
====''The Covenant of Primus''====
[[File:TFPLiegeMaximo.jpg|thumb|200px|left|"Puny God".]]
Liege Maximo was the eleventh member of the [[Thirteen]] created by [[Primus]] to fight against [[Unicron#Aligned continuity family|Unicron]], and was a master manipulator whose artifact was the [[Liegian Darts]]. Maximo was one of the strategists of the Thirteen, alongside [[Alpha Trion]], [[Quintus Prime|Quintus]], and [[Micronus Prime|Micronus]].

After the defeat of Unicron, Maximo focused on the mining, storage and refining of [[energon]], but grew resentful of [[Prima]] and his allies' interference. Regardless, Maximo acted as an emissary for the different factions within the Thirteen, making use of his natural beguiling charm.

Maximo was ultimately the one who led to the group fracturing, by revealing to the rest that Prima had plotted which of the Primes were the most like Unicron. It was also around this time that it was revealed that Maximo had been experimenting with creating new robotic beasts when he requested a powerful armor suit to deal with them. Prima ordered Maximo to shut down his "[[Farm]]", and it was further revealed by Alpha Trion that Maximo had been pitting the beasts against each other.

Whether Maximo had the right to experiment with the beasts was a source of conflict between the Thirteen and was later resolved by a vote which decided that he did not have the right to do so. However, Maximo convinced [[The Fallen|Megatronus]] to try and retrieve the armor from [[Solus Prime|Solus]]—an action that inadvertently led to Solus's demise and the creation of the [[Well of All Sparks]].

Maximo was revealed have placed a monitoring device on a "pet" that he had given to Solus. When the creature tried to attack Megatronus, he reacted by blasting it—leading to Solus attacking him.

Upon being confronted at the "Farm", Maximo tried to accuse Megatronus of being the true mastermind behind the war beasts by claiming it was all part of Megatronus's need to test himself against them. When Megatronus realized that Maximo had been manipulating and using the Thirteen the whole time, and was trying to blame him, a conflict broke out that led to the Primes being set upon by three massive war beasts.

Once the conflict was over, Maximo was found torn to pieces with his head destroyed by the [[Requiem Blaster (Thirteen)|Requiem Blaster]], though no one was sure who had actually fired the fatal shot. Maximo was buried in a [[Liege Maximo's tomb|tomb]] from where his arm would eventually be taken by [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] to allow him to use the [[Forge of Solus Prime]]. {{storylink|Transformers: The Covenant of Primus|The Covenant of Primus}}

====Aligned novels====
[[The Fallen|Megatronus]] and the Liege Maximo disliked [[Nexus Prime]] due to his favor in the eyes of [[Solus Prime]]. After the betrayal of the Fallen and defeat of Unicron the Liege Maximo plotted against his brothers and made his own play for power. He was defeated and fled to a far galaxy. His premeditated betrayal broke the spirit of [[Vector Prime]]. In the end, he was pursued to that far galaxy by [[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]. Though he had no firm information, [[Alpha Trion]] believed Alchemist had succeeded in imprisoning the Liege. {{storylink|Transformers: Exiles|Exiles}}

Like the other members of the [[Thirteen]], Liege Maximo was considered a myth. [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] proclaimed Transformers were free to do as they pleased, without pondering what the long-gone Liege Maximo or his [[The Fallen|treacherous brother]] would think. The [[Hub (G2)|Hub]] once became a part of the [[space bridge]] network during the Golden Age. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}

====''Prime'' cartoon====
[[File:OneShallRise1-WellofAllSparks.jpg|thumb|300px|Everyone is amazed at the shiny bottomless pit.]]
According to legend, at the beginning of time, [[Unicron#Aligned continuity family|Unicron]] and [[Primus]] battled each other for eons, with neither side remaining victorious for long. Till, that is, Primus created the [[Thirteen]]. These Thirteen defeated Unicron and cast him into space. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}

Liege Maximo eventually died and was placed in a [[Liege Maximo's tomb|tomb]]. The tomb was later visited by [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] and [[Dreadwing (Prime)|Dreadwing]], who took Maximo's arm so that Megatron could use the [[Forge of Solus Prime]]. {{storylink|Alpha/Omega}}

====''Robots in Disguise'' books====
{{quote|Liege Maximo is not necessarily evil, but his petty jealousy and boredom motivate him to be a tricky troublemaker.|''[[The Trials of Optimus Prime]]''}}

After the [[AllSpark]] had been returned to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Liege Maximo persisted within the [[Realm of the Primes]] with several of the other [[Thirteen]]. Possessing a cape, horns, sharp darts holstered at his waist, and a cackling voice, he saw the training of [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] to ready him for battle against [[The Fallen|Megatronus]] as an opportunity to cause mischief. He began by increasing the deadliness of the holographic Decepticons that [[Micronus Prime|Micronus]] had created, giving them dangerous buzzsaws. Next, he projected an image of Optimus Prime on [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]]'s computer on Earth, laughingly teasing that the Autobots would soon be attacked by him. Later, Liege Maximo's image of Optimus Prime appeared again while the Autobots were battling the escaped Decepticon [[Skinkbomb]], and the fake Optimus called Bumblebee a fool and the Autobots stupid, and that he was going to join the Decepticons. This severely traumatized Bumblebee, which caused Liege Maximo to laugh a lot to himself because he's kind of a tool. Unfortunately, Micronus found out his plans and Bumblebee wised up to his tricks, enraging him into making Optimus Prime's training even harder. Micronus managed to take him down and Optimus dispatched to fake Bee Team, while Maximo faced punishment from his fellow Primes.
{{storylink|The Trials of Optimus Prime}}

===2005 IDW continuity===
{{first|[[The Crucible|''Robots in Disguise'' #34]] (mentioned); [[Rubicon|''Till All Are One'' #8]] (depicted)}}

[[File:OriginMyths-OnyxPrimeAndLiegeMaximo.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|"Freedom, freedom is life's great lie. And once you accept that, in your heart... you will know peace."]]

Approximately twelve million years ago, in the primitive era following the departure of the [[Knights of Cybertron]] from their homeworld, Liege Maximo rose to become the monarch of the [[Forgotten Plains]], slaying [[Imperator Maximo]] and [[Praetus Maximo]] to consolidate his power, {{storylink|Origin Myths}} while gathering an army of bestial followers who became known as the "[[Maximal]]s". {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 5: Endless Forever|Endless Forever}}

At some point, Liege Maximo came into contact with the bestial "[[Onyx Prime]]", and formed an alliance with the so-called [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]; {{storylink|Origin Myths}} however, Liege Maximo had not yet learned the truth about his new ally: "Onyx Prime" was a convenient alias for a time-travelling [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Shockwave]], who had set himself a new mission: to raise a permanent [[Decepticon Empire]] by manipulating all of Cybertron's history. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}} {{storylink|Last Stand (Unicron)|Last Stand}}

Through a combination of [[shadowplay]] and manipulation Onyx molded the silver-tongued Liege Maximo into the figure that history would later remember; among Shockwave's modifications were psychic barriers akin to Shockwave's own, so that telepathic [[Outlier (group)|outliers]] could not read his mind. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}} {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 2: Another Mine|Another Mine}} Liege Maximo became an ally of "Onyx", even granting him control over his Maximals and granting them the ability to assume animalistic shapes to enhance Onyx's reputation as the "lord of beasts". {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 5: Endless Forever|Endless Forever}} {{storylink|Stranger Eons}}

By the time that Onyx began enacting his ultimate scheme in earnest, he had already groomed another Cybertronian into the dreaded warrior [[The Fallen|Megatronus]] to provide the primitive planet with a threat to unify against. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}} In service of this plan, Onyx and Liege Maximo travelled to the village that would one day become the [[Crystal City]], fabricating a story that Liege had lost his kingdom to Megatronus and his hordes of [[Darklands|Darklander]]s. Onyx introduced him to four Primes, who were deeply unimpressed with him; despite their apprehensions, the group decided to unite, pitting their warriors, joined by the Maximals, against the marauding Darklanders. When their fighting summoned a trio of [[Titan (group)|Titans]] from beneath the surface of Cybertron, the warring factions made peace and all eight Primes agreed to join forces to govern their world. {{storylink|Origin Myths}}

In the age that followed, Liege Maximo became one of the [[Thirteen]], a coalition of Primes who jointly ruled Cybertron. {{storylink|The Crucible}} Each Prime attracted like-minded followers, and the silver-tongued Liege Maximo and his new group of devotees developed a reputation as charismatic diplomats, working to consolidate alliances between the groups. {{storylink|Heavy}} Like the other members of the Thirteen, Liege Maximo won the loyalty of a Titan; in his case, he allied with the mighty warrior [[Vigilem]]. {{storylink|Rubicon}} Unbeknownst to the other members of the Thirteen, Onyx had already turned his attention to destabilizing their alliance—just as history had foretold. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

[[File:FirstWhoWasNamed-LiegeMaximo.jpg|thumb|300px|"Remember me as being a super-huge monster with a giant cannon arm!"]]
Cybertronian history would later claim that Maximo had come to realize that a helpful lie could be more useful than a harmful truth, a sentiment that would spread to his followers. {{storylink|Heavy}} How much of this change of heart was due to Onyx's influence is debatable; by the time that Liege Maximo had fully embraced this talent for manipulation, Megatronus had fallen out of favor with their leader [[Prima]] after a disastrous offworld expedition. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}} Maximo formed an alliance with Onyx's other pawn, {{storylink|Heavy}} and, on Shockwave's instructions, encouraged him to launch a public coup against their leader. [[Solus Prime]] was slain, and this betrayal would ignite the conflict known as the [[First Cybertronian Civil War]], turning the Thirteen and their tribes against one another and permanently shattering their alliance. {{storylink|The Crucible}} {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}} Maximo's plan failed due to one crucial detail: he had failed to take Megatronus's emotions into account, and after killing Solus Prime, his co-conspirator had fled in shame rather than destroying Prima as intended. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

[[File:Rubicon-LiegeMaximo.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.2|Liege Maximo's escaped! Recruit a team of teenagers with attitude!]]
At some point, Liege Maximo was "betrayed" by [[Micronus Prime]]. {{storylink|White Heat}} Prima, who had correctly suspected Liege Maximo's involvement in Megatronus's betrayal, was able to catch and try him for his crimes. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}} His role in the killing of Solus Prime revealed, many of Liege Maximo's followers chose to turn on him. {{storylink|Heavy}} Liege was tried by his fellow Primes, and a suitable sentence was eventually decided: Liege would be imprisoned inside Vigilem, who himself had been subdued by his fellow Titans, and exiled from Cybertron forever, trapped within his lobotomized servant: {{storylink|Rubicon}} a process carried out by Onyx Prime himself. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}} One group of former followers chose to become his jailers, ensuring that their charge would never escape; in repentance for following the deceitful Prime, they swore off lying forever {{storylink|Heavy}} and eventually came to regard deception as the ultimate crime. When the people of Vigilem, now "Carcer", joined the [[Council of Worlds]], {{storylink|The Will of the Few}} they chose to keep Maximo's existence a secret, fearing that his existence could sow undue strife. {{storylink|Heavy}}

For his many crimes, Liege Maximo would come to be remembered by many names in many different Cybertronian societies, including the "Great Betrayer" {{storylink|Rubicon}} and "The Prime of Lies". {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 2: Another Mine|Another Mine}}

Eons later, the younger [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Shockwave]] sent one of his [[Regenesis]] ores to a planet associated with Liege Maximo, {{storylink|The Crucible}} though he himself was unaware of this connection thanks to the actions of this time-travelling future self. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

Liege Maximo remained imprisoned until the year [[2017]], when a crisis on Cybertron prompted a desperate [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] to reawaken Vigilem. {{storylink|Desperate Measures (Till All Are One)|Desperate Measures}} Though [[Elita One (G1)|Elita One]] and her crew put up a fight, the Titan set about releasing his master. Elita was able to kill the Titan, but not before he finally released Maximo, unleashing a burst of energy that knocked out everyone who had tried to stop the ancient Prime. Free once more, Maximo mocked [[Strika (BM)|Strika]] before thanking Vilgilem for his service, promising to avenge his Titan before teleporting away. {{storylink|Rubicon}}

[[File:TheChosenOne-Circuit.jpg|thumb|300px|Artist rendition by senior ''*cough*'' the news staff's senior artist.]]
As Cybertron attempted to rebuild from this crisis, Elita warned [[Starscream (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Starscream]] and several Council members present for the events aboard Carcer that Maximo would soon take his revenge by destroying Cybertron. Fearing that news of his return could cause panic and division amongst the people of Cybertron, Elita argued that they would need to keep the truth hidden to ensure that Cybertron would stay strong and united when he inevitably came back. By a vote of three to two, the Council opted to keep Maximo's freedom a secret for the time being, and Starscream later released [[Chromia (G1)|Chromia]] on the condition that she hunt down Liege Maximo and bring his head back to Starscream. {{storylink|Heavy}} Chromia was provided with a ship and a crew in the form of [[Greenlight]] and [[Lancer]] to hunt down the ancient Prime. {{storylink|The Chosen One}}

During the [[Iron Ring]]'s attack on Iacon some months later, Elita One and [[Knock Out (G1)|Knock Out]] agreed that Liege Maximo was the greater threat, one that was worth killing all humans in Iacon to focus on. {{storylink|First Strike issue 4|First Strike #4}}

[[File:OP15-LiegeChained.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.2|Liege Maximo, Prime of Kinks.]]
When Windblade was due to properly retake her place on the Council of Worlds, she surveyed the damage done to Iacon and wondered if Liege Maximo would even have anything to tear down. Learning that the public was not yet aware of Liege Maximo's freedom was the final straw for her. Catching up with [[Circuit (G1)|Circuit]] and [[Longtooth]], Windblade exposed the truth about the events surrounding "Carcer" and told them of Maximo's inevitable return. The news made waves in Cybertronian society, sparking off protests against the Council's duplicity, and kindling feelings of anger, terror, and in at least one case, religious sympathy for the fallen Prime. {{storylink|The Chosen One}}

At some point, Liege Maximo came into contact with Onyx Prime again as his old ally made a course for Cybertron aboard [[Nemesis (BW)|Nemesis]]; in order to win the Council of Worlds' good graces, Onyx pretended to have taken Liege Maximo prisoner, "delivering" him to Cybertron so that he could be tried for his crimes once more. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 1: Surfeit of Primes|Surfeit of Primes}} Onyx brought Maximo to the [[Spire]] so that he could convince the Council that neither he nor his forces were a threat, assigning a pair of Maximals to stand guard over him. Maximo was soon visited by a suspicious [[Soundwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Soundwave]], who had his doubts about Onyx's pageantry; when he attempted to read Maximo's mind, he found that he could hear nothing thanks to Shockwave's shadowplay. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 2: Another Mine|Another Mine}} When Onyx detonated a bomb in the Spire to sow confusion, Maximo easily slipped his chains {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 3: The Ground|The Ground}} and rejoined Onyx—now unmasked as Shockwave—as the purple Decepticon monologued to an imprisoned [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Optimus Prime]]. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

Shockwave then ordered Liege Maximo to take a detachment of Maximals to finish off the survivors of [[Metrotitan (G1)|Metrotitan]], whom Shockwave had shot down; despite Maximo's grumbling, he complied, and his forces wound up battling [[Arcee (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Arcee]]. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 4: The Hallowing|The Hallowing}} Though Arcee was able to take down dozens of Maximals, she was eventually taken prisoner by their leader, who brought her back to Nemesis on Shockwave's orders. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 5: Endless Forever|Endless Forever}}

Using supplies of Shockwave's gravity-warping [[Ore-4]], Maximo used its powers to begin levitating himself, his prisoners, and Arcee back up to the ship... only for his captive to take advantage of the weightless environment to break free and destroy the Ore-4 crystal responsible for suspending them in midair. The helpless Liege Maximo plummeted from the sky and crashed into [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]'s shoulder at terminal velocity, dashing his body to bits. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 6: Unforgivable|Unforgivable}}
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===''Beast Wars: Uprising''===
[[Ser-Ket (BWU)|Ser-Ket]] claimed to be part of a warrior lineage that stretched back to the Liege Maximo and others. {{storylink|Head Games}}

===Fun Publications===
[[File:AphroditeLiegeMaximoAVP.jpg|thumb|The original [[shellformer]].]]
Though Vector Prime would claim that history was likely correct to record Liege Maximo as a "monster", he still had many happy memories of times shared with his brother from before the falling out between the Thirteen, {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/06/14}} and thought of his actions more as "tragic" than evil. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/06/12}} He recalled his brother's skill at social gatherings, and his ability to spin incredible stories, {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/05/15}} including tales of the [[Covenant (group)|Covenant]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/06/10}} During the Thirteen's time in ancient Greece, Liege's female holomatter avatar—which, thanks to Liege's flair for the dramatic, first manifested by appearing out of the sea in a giant shell—inspired the myth of Aphrodite. By this time, he had formed an enmity with Solus, who manifested in Greece as the male Hephaestus, and Prima had them "bonded" together in hopes they could work through their differences. Naturally, this only resulted in further conflict; "Interesting times," Vector called them. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/08/08}} He also noted that legends claimed that the god [[Xal]] might merely be another name for Liege Maximo, but could say nothing with certainty. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/06/12}}

When the quantum membrane between the wider multiverse and the [[Uniend]] Cluster was punctured, Vector Prime began to experience memories of the Uniend incarnation of Liege Maximo, and expressed surprise at the existence of an iteration of his brother who had died before founding an empire of his own. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/06/14}}

As Nexus Prime brought together the [[Terminus Blade]] and the [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|Star Saber]], his fellow Thirteen including Liege Maximo were drawn to his actions. These multiversal singularities were splintered and scattered by the act, making them into repeating parallel, but variable, versions of themselves throughout the multiverse instead of the singular beings they were before. {{storylink|Out of the One, Many}}

===''Power of the Primes'' toy bios===
Liege Maximo's [[Spark]] passed into the possession of one of the twelve [[Prime Master]]s; hidden within a suit of decoy armor, they safeguarded the abilities of the Primes until the present day. By uniting with a larger Transformer, the Prime Master could channel the powers of Liege Maximo's Spark and grant them unique abilities that varied with each new partner. {{storylink|#Generations|''Power of the Primes'' Skullgrin / Liege Maximo online bio}}

{{note|For a list of every permutation of Liege Maximo's abilities, see [[Prime Master/Combinations|this link]].}}

===''Cyberverse'' cartoon===
Liege Maximo was one of the [[Thirteen]]. {{storylink|Dweller In The Depths (Cyberverse)|Dweller In The Depths}} {{storylink|Silent Strike}} {{storylink|The Other One}}

===2019 IDW continuity===
Liege Maximo was one of the Thirteen Primes. {{storylink|Lord of Misrule: Sea of Rust I|Sea of Rust I}} Along with the other Thirteen, he bore witness to Cybertron at the earliest stage of its development as a world. {{storylink|End of Time}}

===''One'' film===
[[File:TransformersOne-AmalgamousLiegeMaximoholograms.jpg|left|thumb|300px|I'm on the right! So they say.]]
[[File:TransformersOne-LiegeMaximocave.jpg|right|thumb|300px|I'll become green one way or another!!!!]]
Liege Maximo and the other twelve Primes were created by [[Primus]] at the dawn of Cybertron, and they ruled Cybertron benevolently through its Golden Age. When a war with the Quintessons threw the planet into a protracted, violent conflict, the Primes' secretary, [[Sentinel Prime (One)|Sentinel Prime]], herded the [[Thirteen]] into a Quintesson ambush within a remote cave. [[Quintesson Soldier]]s swarmed the cave and overwhelmed Liege Maximo, presumably killing him before Sentinel Prime could murderously betray the rest of his brethren. Fifty cycles later, Liege Maximo's corpse, frozen into a defensive position, was found in this cave by [[Optimus Prime (One)|Orion Pax]], [[Megatron (One)|D-16]], [[Elita-1 (One)|Elita-1]], and [[Bumblebee (One)|B-127]].

A vision of Liege Maximo and the other Primes later appeared as Alpha Trion declared a damaged Orion Pax to be the next wielder of the [[Matrix of Leadership]], Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Transformers One (film)|Transformers One}}
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===Energon Universe===
After Optimus Prime found himself in the [[Hall of the Primes]], he saw a statue of Liege Maximo among the others. {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 22|Transformers #22}}

===''EarthSpark'' cartoon===
{{voiceactor|[[Nolan North]] (English)|[[David Krüger]] (French), [[Octavio Rojas]] (Latin American-Spanish), }}

[[File:LegacyofHope-LiegeMaximoRobbyMalto.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Evil... is infinite! But can be contained within a cape.]]

Long ago, [[Optimus Prime (ES)|Optimus Prime]] and the [[Thirteen|other Primes]] were forced to defeat and contain their brother, Liege Maximo, in a "lightless void" and remove all mention of him from Cybertronian history. Liege considered this a betrayal, and after he secretly escaped his imprisonment, he tracked down and murdered each of the other Primes one by one so he could confiscate their [[Artifacts of the Primes|thirteen powerful Artifacts]]. Intending to resume his original plan from before his defeat, just this time without the other Primes, he prepared to recreate [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] as his seat of power from which he would terraform other planets into sources of [[Energon]]. But to accomplish this, he needed Optimus Prime's [[Matrix of Leadership]] and [[Quintus Prime]]'s [[Emberstone]], the latter of which had been transformed into the [[cyber-sleeve]]s worn by the [[Earth]] children [[Robby Malto|Robby]] and [[Mo Malto]].

[[File:LegacyofHope-RequiemBlaster.jpg|right|thumb|300px|This gun isn't infinite, but is still pretty big.]]

By this point, nearly all the Transformers on Cybertron had become followers of Liege Maximo, seeing no other way to survive. This was because Liege had claimed Optimus Prime had destroyed the [[AllSpark]] which had resulted in the very planet itself leaching energy from its denizens. When [[Hot Rod (ES)|Hot Rod]], under Liege's command, learned that the Emberstone still lived on in the cyber-sleeves, Liege tasked him with retrieving the Emberstone and had him use one of Liege Maximo's own artifacts, the [[Liegian Darts]], to draw it out of the cyber-sleeves.

Unbeknownst to Liege's followers, whom he ruled over with intimidation and a strict control over their Energon supply, Liege himself had hidden the AllSpark under his base and had used one of his darts to turn it from a life-giving artifact into a life-draining one.

When the dart was eventually removed by Robby Malto and the AllSpark was returned to normal, Liege's former followers realized he had lied to them and abandoned him to be fought and eventually defeated by the Malto family and their allies. {{storylink|Legacy of Hope}}
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==Games==
===''Transformers: Forged to Fight''===
While assisting the heroic Autobots of this universe, [[Starscream (SG)|Starscream]] invoked the name of the noble and honorable Liege Maximo, wishing that his light would shine on his new comrades. {{storylink|Shattered Bridges}}

===''Transformers: Earth Wars''===
;'''Liege Maximo Core'''
[[File:Earth Wars Liege Maximo Core.jpg|thumb|upright=0.6]]

Liege Maximo's [[Prime Master#Transformers: Earth Wars|Prime Core]] (his "heart" as one of the primordial [[Thirteen|Thirteen Primes]]) fell to Earth under mysterious circumstances along with those of his siblings to become a hotly contested resource in the [[Earth Wars (conflict)|Earth Wars]]. {{storylink|Power of the Primes (Earth Wars)|Power of the Primes}}

*'''Effect:''' Hack nearby enemy [[Transformers: Earth Wars#Standard Bots|Bot]]s for a limited time. You are immune to hacking.

[https://tfew.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4733780017183-Prime-Cores-Bot Liege Maximo Core at Transformers: Earth Wars Wiki]

{{chargamestub|{{storylink|Transformers: Earth Wars}}}}

===''Transformers Roleplaying Game''===
Liege Maximo was known as the "Prime of Lies", and supposedly helped tear the Thirteen apart. A shadowy manipulator who wielded poisonous [[Liegian Darts]], Liege Maximo relied on minions and proxies, who created mighty empires in his name. Humans sometimes knew him as {{w|Aphrodite}}. {{storylink|Transformers One Sourcebook}}

==Toys==
===''Prime''===
[[File:Primetoy-FinalBattleMegatron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Because it would be <s>non-aerodynamic</s> silly to mount the saber onto the back of the vehicle mode like a giant tail-fin.]]
<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Final Battle Megatron''' ([[February 25]], [[2013]])}}</ul>
:*''ID number'': '''AM-33'''
:''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|Prime]]'' [[Megatron (WFC)/toys#Darkest|Final Battle Megatron]]'s right forearm is decoed (but sadly not remolded) to resemble Liege Maximo's forearm that he substitutes for his own in those episodes.
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===''Power of the Primes''===
[[File:PowerOfThePrimestoy-LiegeMaximo.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|My alt-mode is a garden tool?]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Liege Maximo''' (Prime Master, [[2018]])}}</ul>
:*''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''PP-02'''
:*''TakaraTomy release date'': '''[[May 25]], [[2018]]'''
:*''Accessories'': [[Skullgrin#Power of the Primes|Skullgrin]] decoy armor, claw
:*''Known designers'': [[John Warden]] (Hasbro), [[Robby Musso]] (concept artist)

:''[[Power of the Primes (toyline)|Power of the Primes]]'' Liege Maximo is a [[Prime Master]] with Skullgrin decoy armor, visually based on the original [[Pretender]]'s inner robot and shell.

:This toy has identical features to the other Prime Masters in the line. The decoy armor has a weapon piece which can fold out to create a weapon mode, or detach and be held in the armor's 3 mm-compatible hand. The [[Titan Master]]-like robot can store inside the decoy armor or ride [[Size class|Legends Class]] figures in vehicle mode, and is fully compatible with toys from the previous ''[[Titans Return (toyline)|Titans Return]]'' line. The "Power Swap" gimmick means its [[spark]] form can plug onto any decoy armor's weapon form (which has a [[5 mm post]] to be held by larger figures), Deluxe Class figures' chest armor, Voyager Class figures' bucklers, Leader Class figures' [[Matrix of Leadership/toys#Power of the Primes|Matrix]] (in place of their Matrix core), [[combiner]]s' torsos (in place of their [[Enigma of Combination#Power of the Primes|Enigma of Combination]]), or the [[Scepter of Sparks#Generations|Scepter of Sparks]]. With the power of [[you]]r imagination, this bestows the Prime Master's [[Prime Master/Combinations|unique power]] on the larger figure.

:Depending on the individual copy, the peg holes on Liege Maximo's legs varies from normal size to near-shallow, which the latter makes him somewhat prone to falling off from the decoy armor's weapon form. Unlike every other Titan Master/Prime Master, Liege Maximo and his fellow first wave Prime Masters feature backpacks/symbols secured by pins instead of screws.

:Liege Maximo/Skullgrin was retooled with a new [[Prime Master]] sigil and decoy armor front as [[The Fallen/toys#Power of the Primes|The Fallen]]/[[Bomb-Burst (G1)#Power of the Primes|Bomb-Burst]].
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===''Age of the Primes''===
[[File:AgeofthePrimestoy-LiegeMaximo.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Evil... is infinite! Or $59.99.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-pr11|'''The Thirteen Liege Maximo''' (Leader Class, [[2026]])}}</ul>
:*''Accessories'': horns, 3 [[Liegian Darts]], launcher
{{toydesigner|[[Mark Maher]] (Hasbro), [[Hisashi Yuki]] (TakaraTomy)}}<ref>[[February 3]], [[2026]]'s [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzWSj4wlnqM Transformers Age of the Primes Deep Dive | In-Hand Look at the New Wave | February 2026] on YouTube, with [[Evan Brooks]], [[Mark Maher]] and [[Nate Purswell]].</ref>

:''[[Transformers: Age of the Primes|Age of the Primes]]'' Liege Maximo was released as part of the fourth wave of Leader Class figures in the line, based primarily on his original ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (Marvel)|Generation 2 comic]]'' design, but with elements from his [[Aaron Archer]] concept design (see the gallery below) filling in some of the gaps (such as his shoulder pads and belt), with the rest being an original design. His new giant back horns come packaged separately in the box, allowing you to leave them off for a more comic-accurate appearance, or held as blasters, if you so desire. The same horn assembly can also plug into the back of [[Starscream_(G1)/toys#Studio_Series|''Studio Series'' Starscream]]'s throne, allowing Liege Maximo to sit in it and recreate his iconic first (and only) appearance in the comic.

:Liege Maximo comes with three of his signature Liegian Darts cast in translucent red plastic, designed to resemble the spaceships from a [[Geoff Senior]] illustration of the Liege Maximo produced for the unofficial "[[Alignment]]" story by [[Simon Furman]], as well as a new launcher accessory which the darts can plug into. Additionally, his left arm features a flip-out cannon cast in the same translucent plastic as the darts, allowing you to recreate the arm cannon he possessed in the G2 comic. He transforms into a very abstract-looking spaceship, with its general shape and hull seemingly inspired by the [[Mothership]]s from ''[[Dark of the Moon]],'' if those also had giant horns. His launcher accessory can be stored on the underside of the "nose" of this mode.

:The horns are not attached to his head, instead being part of a separate, unarticulated section behind the head. He has a [[humanization|nose and mouth]], with the red part of his jaw reinterpreted as an underbite, rather than the maw portrayed in ''Alignment'', IDW's [[:File:TheChosenOne-Circuit.jpg|homage to the original design]], and Hasbro's concept art.

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==Notes==
[[File:AOTP Liege Maximo key art.jpg|thumb|I guess we know to which [[Energon bloodline]] [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]] belongs.]]
*"Liege Maximo" was likely meant to be this character's title or rank, while his proper name remained unknown, but subsequent uses of the character have treated Liege Maximo as the character's name (or, in some cases, "Liege" as his name and "Maximo" as a title in the vein of "Prime"). Jhiaxus has a similar title, [[Liege Centuro]].
*Liege Maximo, was, at one point, established as a [[multiversal singularity]] who existed as one being throughout all of time and space, but that is [[Shroud|no longer the case]].
*In November 2007, [[Simon Furman]] cryptically hinted that the Liege Maximo would make a return in 2008 in IDW's comics.<ref>{{citesocial|link=https://simonfurman.wordpress.com/2007/11/19/script-wrap-15/#comment-1938|quote=Actually, I’m saving LM for something else BIG that’s happening in 08.|name=Simon Furman|site=Simon Furman: The Blog|year=2007|month=11|day=19|title=SCRIPT (W)RAP}}</ref> It didn't happen under his pen, however, and Liege Maximo wouldn't make his IDW debut until over 9 years later, in [[Rubicon|''Till All Are One'' #8]].
*Liege Maximo's "Aligned" design, by [[Eric Siebenaler]], seems to have been heavily inspired by the [[Marvel Comics]] version of {{w|Loki (comics)|Loki}}; fitting enough for a manipulator and liar. Contrary to what you might expect, this was ''not'' done as a response to the massive spike in popularity that Loki would get as portrayed by {{w|Tom Hiddleston}} in 2011's {{w|Thor (film)|''Thor''}}; his artwork was first shown at [[BotCon 2010]], prior to the film's Loki's design even being revealed—and, indeed, Aligned Liege Maximo seems to be based much more heavily on the classic "ugly old man" Loki than Hiddleston's youthful hunk.
*The dead Prime seen in the ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' episode "[[Alpha/Omega]]" is identified as Liege Maximo in ''[[Transformers: The Covenant of Primus|The Covenant of Primus]]''. The concurrently published ''[[Transformers: The Art of Prime|Art of Prime]]'' claims that it is [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Sentinel Prime]], but that doesn't make sense, since Sentinel is not a true Prime and, as such, his limb would not convey the power to use the Forge on Megatron. The dead Prime's arm in ''Prime'' is red-colored, which neither Sentinel nor Maximo are; it may be due to influence from [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|the live-action Sentinel]].
*The death of Liege Maximo in the ''[[Transformers: The Covenant of Primus|Covenant of Primus]]'' is also at odds with other stories from Aligned continuity. The [[Transformers: Exiles|''Exiles'' novel]] reports that Alchemist Prime left Cybertron to hunt down and capture Liege Maximo, while the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|2015 ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon]] and [[The Trials of Optimus Prime|related materials]] show Liege Maximo as active in the [[Realm of the Primes]]. This is one of the larger examples of Aligned continuity's "It only works if you squint" rule towards the overall timeline.
*Behind-the-scenes concept art from ''[[Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)|Cyberverse]]'' mislabels Liege Maximo's plinth in the Realm of the Primes as "Siege Maximo". Translating the words on the plinth, however, gives the correct name.<ref>[https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/025/493/315/large/nicolaas-frankefort-prime-slabs.jpg?1585959977 Concept art of "Prime slabs"]</ref>
*In [[2023]], [[Aaron Archer]] revealed on a personal stream several concept sketches of the Thirteen he had made sometime during the 2000s, when Hasbro was still developing the full roster for what would eventually become the [[Aligned continuity family]].<ref>{{citesocial|quote=Really we were trying to create a representation of each of the classic Transformer forms. So as I was creating the Thirteen, some had been figured out, right? So Megatronus I think, Liege Maximo, Alpha Trion I believe were already named characters... but then I tried to figure out how to bring the concept of beasts and combiners [and the Mini-Cons] and different elements into the concept, so that you had the whole pantheon of gods, different shapes and sizes and whatnot. So I went through and I drew kind of visions of what they could be. So this is not trying to figure the character out, but get the vibe of what the character was about, other talented people would come in behind me and do that. So there's like the idea that—why did the Quintessons think that they might have made the Transformers? Well they come from the guy that was like the Johnny Appleseed, or the character that seeded some of the planets, so they were confused... try to shore up some of these ideas for the Aligned continuity, right? Here's an elemental kind of concept, gears and metal and magnetism, kind of a proto-Transformer, kind of weird thing. [...] Here's another weird version of Megatronus, how big he is compared to like what Megatron would have been.|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQLQ4VzuCGA&t=689s|name=Aaron Archer|site=''The Toy Armada''|title=Toy Armada Friday night LIVE: Creating characters and lore|year=2023|month=05|day=26}}</ref> At this stage in development, the Liege Maximo's design was heavily inspired by the original G2 comic design instead of being based on Loki. In a bizarre deep cut, this early concept design was used as the basis for the character's appearance in the ''[[Age of the Primes]]'' key art and other promotional images.
*''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|EarthSpark]]'' Liege Maximo was designed by [[Nick Roche]].<ref>{{citesocial|quote=IT ME|link=https://bsky.app/profile/nickroche.bsky.social/post/3maoucmwxxc2w|name=Nick Roche|site=Bluesky|year=2025|month=12|day=23}}</ref> One of the concept designs for his head was a much more G2-inspired look, seen in the gallery below.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Liege Maximo''' (リージマキシモ ''Rīji Makishimo'')
*''Mandarin:'' '''Maximo Dàdì''' (马克西莫大帝 ''Mǎkèxīmò Dàdì'', "Maximo the Great")

==Gallery==
<gallery>
File:LiegeMaximoAaronArcherSketch.jpg|A concept sketch created by Aaron Archer in the 2000s
File:Liege Maximo-Sara Pitre Durocher-TAAO-model.jpg|2005 IDW comic continuity
File:IDW2 The Liege Maximo.jpg|2019 IDW continuity
File:One-Liege-Maximo.jpg|''One'' film
File:LiegeMaximo-earthspark-stock.jpg|''EarthSpark'' cartoon
File:Elm.jpg|''EarthSpark'' concept art
</gallery>

==References==
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Thirteenth Prime

2026-02-08T12:23:01Z

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{{disambig3|Thirteen}}
[[File:TheVisionary.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.4|After years of neglect from the [[X-Men]] writers, Chamber began moonlighting as a Transformers character.]]

The '''Thirteenth Prime''' is the last of the [[Thirteen|original epic warriors]] of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Cloaked in mystery even more than his fellow [[Prime (rank)|Primes]], this warrior's legacy is carried forwards in the present day by those who wield the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. He is sometimes known by the epithet of '''the Arisen''', or simply as '''Thirteen'''.

==Conceptual history==
The Thirteenth Prime is a bit of a confusing character, as he's the product of changing ideas, unfulfilled intentions, and abandoned concepts. The character was initially conceived by [[Aaron Archer]] and the other creatives at [[HasLab (Hasbro department)|HasLab]] as part of the new mythology they assembled to underpin the [[Aligned continuity family|Aligned continuity]], and was designed to be a mythical figure who served as the in-universe origin point for two concepts spoken of in ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'': the prophecy of the "[[darkest hour]]," on which an unknown hero would rise up to save the universe, and the Autobot mantra, "[['Til all are one]]," presaging a great day of unity in the Transformers' future.

As detailed in the "[[Binder of Revelation]]," the original plan for the Thirteenth was that he was the warrior who defeated [[Unicron]] in the Primes' ancient battle with the dark god, after which he disappeared, leaving behind a prophecy that he would return in the universe's darkest hour, on the day "when all are one." In the early planning stages of the Aligned continuity, the Thirteenth didn't have a definite, locked-in identity, as it wasn't known for sure if the story of his present-day return would ever be told, hence the indistinct, "faceless" artwork that was created for the character.<ref>{{citesocial|name=Sabrblade|site=Transformers Wiki Discord|link=https://discord.com/channels/656241088826441729/656248887534944265/1383917633912701031|day=15|month=06|year=2025|quote=I did also actually talk to him about the idea of making the 13th Prime be Optimus and how unpopular that decision ultimately was. He said that that actually wasn't supposed to be the case. The original plan was to deliberately lean into the mystery and ambiguity of the 13th's identity and make him just some legendary figure destined to appear when the time is right according to an ancient prophecy that may or may never come true. The decision to make Optimus Prime the reincarnation of this nameless figure came much later, and it was one of those things that just happened to come about when there's a bunch of cooks all working in the same kitchen. }}</ref> But as the story of the universe took further shape, it was decided that the whole continuity would climax with a story about the return of Unicron, during which the prophecy would be fulfilled, and the Thirteenth would return to destroy the chaos-bringer and unite the universe in peace. While the prophesied hero spoken of in ''The Transformers: The Movie'' turned out to be [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]], for the Aligned continuity, it was decided that the foretold warrior would be [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]], who would be revealed as the reincarnation of the Thirteenth when he reassembled the shattered fragments of the [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|Star Saber]] sword and reunited the [[Matrix of Leadership]] with the blade.

But this proposed climactic story never happened. The Aligned continuity would be beset by many problems in the course of its production, and HasLab wound up quickly losing control of the direction of the story as a result of a series of storytelling conflicts between HasLab and the staff of the ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' cartoon; Unicron returned well ahead of schedule, Prime got his hands on an intact Star Saber that had never been shattered, and the prophecy of the Thirteenth never even came up. All hope of getting the story back on track was lost in 2012, when layoffs at Hasbro resulted in HasLab being shut down, and instead, a totally different version of the Thirteenth's tale wound up being told in the guidebook, ''[[Transformers: The Covenant of Primus|The Covenant of Primus]],'' which removed all the prophecy and mystery from the story, and just matter-of-factly walked through the process of how the Thirteenth was reborn as Optimus. The ''Covenant'' alleged that, from the moment he was given the Matrix and became Autobot leader, Optimus knew that he was the Thirteenth reborn, but no ''other'' Aligned media would ever acknowledge this, or address the concept of the Thirteenth at all, turning the whole thing into just a bit of background lore from a guidebook, instead of the universe-shaking story-ending reveal that HasLab had wanted it to be.

The idea as presented in the ''Covenant'' also didn't go down well. Turning Optimus Prime from a normal 'bot who earned leadership based on his own merits into a preordained hero, reincarnated from a demigod from the dawn of time, proved widely unpopular with fans, and almost no subsequent media to feature the Thirteen has utilised it. Instead, most subsequent stories have wound up hewing closer to HasLab's earliest intentions for the Thirteenth, presenting him as a mysterious figure whose true identity is unknown, while some have even abandoned the concept entirely and chosen to fill the thirteenth spot on the Primes' roster with different characters.

==Fiction==
===Aligned continuity family===
{{main|Optimus Prime (WFC)}}
The figure remembered as only "the Thirteenth Prime" was '''Optimus Prime''', the mediator and visionary of the Primes, who united them by being the first of their number to raise a hand in greeting. After the Thirteen were torn apart by internal conflict, Optimus chose to be reborn as an ordinary Cybertronian through the [[Well of All Sparks]], losing memory of his past and becoming known as '''Orion Pax'''. Pax would eventually take up the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to become Optimus Prime once again, and—after sacrificing his life to restore Cybertron—rejoined his brethren in the [[Realm of the Primes]], where they trained him for a mission to Earth in order to defeat his fallen brother [[The Fallen|Megatronus]].

===2005 IDW continuity===
[[File:TAAO9 the arisen.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1|After years of ignoring Grigori, the Arisen's scar grew to cover most of his torso.]]
{{first|[[Conquerors Part 2: Lagrange|''The Transformers'' vol. 2 #47]] (mentioned); [[Heavy|''Till All Are One'' #9]] (obscured image)}}
Like the other Primes, the thirteenth of their number once ruled over one of the [[Thirteen Tribes]] in the ancient days of Cybertron. Along with four others, he was attracted to the [[Crystal City]] alliance and became one of the planet's Thirteen Primes. As Crystal City grew and expanded, he joined his fellow [[Prime (rank)|Primes]] in its citadel. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

He and his brethren would later vanish from the planet when war tore the tribes apart, and disappeared into legend. For reasons unknown, his name was stricken from history, along with that of his brother [[The Fallen|Megatronus]]; whereas Megatronus became known only as "the Fallen", he was dubbed "'''the Arisen'''". {{storylink|Conquerors Part 2: Lagrange|Lagrange}} Eons afterwards, [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Shockwave]] would unknowingly send one of his [[Regenesis]] ores to a planet associated with the Arisen. {{storylink|Shockwaves}} {{storylink|The Crucible}} {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

[[File:OP18 Thirteen in Crystal City.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.2|That's me in the corner. That's [[Prima|him]] in the spotlight, building a religion.]]
Like his fellows, the Arisen would be deified by subsequent generations of Cybertronians. He in particular would go onto to be revered as the "true Prime", {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 6: Unforgivable|Unforgivable}} and was foretold to lead Cybertron's defence during [[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]]'s second coming, bringing peace to the universe when he slew the Chaos Bringer. {{storylink|Last Stand (Unicron)|Last Stand}}

In the present day, upon meeting [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Optimus Prime]], the [[Mistress of Flame]] of Caminus came to believe that he was the Arisen. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 3: The Medium and the Message|The Medium and the Message}} [[Pyra Magna]] and her [[Torchbearer]]s considered this sacrilege, and departed from the Mistress's service for it. {{storylink|Conquerors Part 2: Lagrange|Lagrange}} Optimus did not believe it himself either, but he unwittingly lent credence to the Mistress's beliefs when he annexed [[Earth]] into the [[Council of Worlds]], and raised [[Metrotitan (G1)|Metrotitan]] from beneath the planet's surface. This seemed to prove both that Earth was one of the Thirteen Primes' colonies, and that, thanks to his ability to command its [[Titan (group)|Titan]], Optimus's divine identity was also true. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 3: The Medium and the Message|The Medium and the Message}} Optimus would not even countenance the notion, but began to exploit the religious faith that Caminus and the other colonies placed in him in order to accomplish good deeds on Earth. {{storylink|New Cybertron Part 4: Dance Among the Shadows|Dance Among the Shadows}}

When [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Onyx Prime]] returned to Cybertron, Optimus Prime invited him down to the surface for a rational discussion. Onyx agreed, declaring the state of Cybertron as Optimus's responsibility, for the younger Prime ''was'' none other than the Arisen. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 1: Surfeit of Primes|Surfeit of the Primes}}

During the conversation with Onyx, he referred to Optimus as the Arisen, before Optimus requested to simply be referred to by his name, a request Onyx acquiesced to. When [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] tried to take over the discussion, the Mistress came to Optimus's defence, reiterating her belief that he was the Arisen. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 2: Another Mine|Another Mine}} Once Optimus had seemingly perished, [[Liege Maximo]] would also refer to him as having been the Arisen. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 4: The Hallowing|The Hallowing}}

As Optimus and [[Arcee (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Arcee]] fought their way to the heart of Unicron, the latter tried convince Optimus to retreat, citing the [[Antilla]]n war as her responsibility. Optimus refused, claiming to be the Arisen and that he alone shouldered the responsibilities for the sins of the Primes' tainted lineage. Before he could elaborate on the statement to the confused Arcee, the two reached the [[black hole (phenomenon)|black hole]] at the centre of Unicron. {{storylink|Ceremony}} Ultimately however, Optimus would pass before he could explain his claim to Arcee. Reflecting on one of her final conversations with Optimus, however, Arcee realized it hadn't mattered who the Arisen had been. What mattered was the inspirational legacy he had left behind. {{storylink|Post}}

===''Titans Return'' cartoon===
{{main|Sentinel Prime (G1)}}
During the clash between [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] and [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]], the [[Mistress of Flame]] prayed to '''Sentinel Prime''' and the other Primes, asking for his wisdom to help them solve the crisis. {{storylink|Overlord and Emissary}}

===''Power of the Primes'' marketing material===
The [[Prime Master]] of '''the Thirteenth''' formed the core of the [[Matrix of Leadership]], which selected [[Optimus Primal (BW)|Optimal Optimus]] as its bearer. {{storylink|Optimus Primal (BW)/toys#Power of the Primes|Throne of the Primes packaging}}

===''Cyberverse'' cartoon===
{{main|Optimus Prime (Cyberverse)}}
In a darker timeline, '''Optimus Prime''' was slain in his initial confrontation with [[Megatron X (Cyberverse)|Megatron]] and his spirit came to rest as the Thirteenth Prime within the accumulated wisdom of the Matrix of Leadership. When the Matrix was stolen away to another universe and pierced by a psychic shard of the native [[Windblade (Cyberverse)|Windblade]], Optimus' spirit guided her to destroy the Matrix so she could save her own universe. Optimus was presumably laid to rest for good when Windblade followed his orders and destroyed the talisman from within. {{storylink|The Other One}}

===2019 IDW continuity===
When the [[Matrix of Leadership]] merged with [[Optimus Prime (G1)#2019 IDW continuity|Orion Pax]], its [[Mediator]] program explained that, although the talisman had been carried by a number of Cybertronians over the years, they were but stewards until the Matrix found the Thirteenth Prime, its true bearer. {{storylink|War World: Prime|Prime}}

===''One'' film===
{{main|Zeta Prime (One)}}
'''Zeta Prime''' was the first bearer of the Matrix of Leadership. After many years fighting against the [[Quintesson#One film|Quintessons]], Zeta and his brethren were lured into a trap by their aide [[Sentinel Prime (One)|Sentinel]], who had betrayed them to their enemies. Sentinel personally killed Zeta with [[Nexus Prime]]'s gun and took the Matrix from his corpse, only for it to crumble in his hands, [[Primus]] having deemed Sentinel unworthy. Zeta's spirit would eventually appear to [[Optimus Prime (One)|Orion Pax]] within Cybertron's core, he and his fellow Primes bearing witness to Orion's reformatting as the Matrix's newest bearer, Optimus Prime.

===''Age of the Primes'' marketing material===
'''Star Optimus Prime''' was the bearer of the [[Zodiac|Zodiac orb]] and "guiding light" of the Primes. {{storylink|Cybertron Con 2024|''Age of the Primes'' reveal panel}} He was amongst the first generation of Transformers created by [[Primus]], with all subsequent generations flowing from he and his siblings{{'}} [[Energon bloodline]]s. Eons later, a young [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] was granted immense size and power by the Zodiac orb to become Star Optimus Prime in the present day. {{storylink|Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#Age of the Primes|''Age of the Primes'' Star Optimus Prime bio}}

===''Earthspark'' cartoon===
{{main|Optimus Prime (ES)}}
Along with the other Primes, '''Optimus Prime''' established [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]'s culture in its early days. {{storylink|Age of Evolution, Part 1}} However, after a fellow Prime, Liege Maximo, went rogue and sought to use the [[Artifacts of the Primes]] to turn other planets into sources of [[energon]] and make Cybertron the centre of a galactic empire, Optimus teamed up with the other Primes to banish and imprison Maximo in a "lightless void". The Primes then erased all mention of his name from Cybertronian history. {{storylink|Legacy of Hope}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: Forged to Fight''===
[[File:ForgedtoFight-13.jpg|thumb|Sorry, these days I go by "bestest number one!"]]

[[The Fallen|Megatronus]] immediately recognized [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] as '''13''', a fellow original Prime, and asked him to accept the truth of his past. Optimus Prime didn't really seem to understand what Megatronus was talking about. {{storylink|Transformers: Forged to Fight|Forged to Fight}}

===''Transformers: Earth Wars''===
'''[[Nova Prime#Transformers: Earth Wars|Nova Prime]]''' was the self-described "seeker" of the Primes, a renegade derided by his brother [[Vector Prime]] as '''the Nemesis'''. No boundary was too great, no taboo too grave to hinder his pursuit of knowledge and power for the betterment of their children, up to and including the wills of his siblings. Nova Prime's expeditions throughout space and time eventually convinced him that the Cybertronian race were inevitably doomed to squander their birthright to glory and sink into [[Cybertronian civil wars|a morass of petty squabbles]]. To remedy this apparent cosmic constant, he broke the Thirteen's vow of non-interference with the mortal Transformers of the present day and resolved to unravel all of reality in a "[[Great Resetting]]", clearing the multiversal chessboard to try again with a firmer hand, wiser for his studies. {{storylink|Timeless Champions}} {{storylink|Source:Transformers: Earth Wars/2024|Nova Prime bio}}
{{chargamestub|{{storylink|Transformers: Earth Wars}} How that shook out for him in subsequent arcs.}}

===''Transformers Roleplaying Game''===
The Arisen was a mysterious figure prophesied to one day return. In ancient times, he wielded the [[Scepter of Sparks]], and some ancient humans knew him as the mythical [[Heracles]]. Some mystically-inclined Cybertronians believed that the Arisen still lives today, all memories of his previous self lost to time. {{storylink|Transformers One Sourcebook}}
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==Toys==
{{note|A respectable portion of the Optimus Prime toys on this website can implicitly be used to represent the Thirteenth Prime's modern-day incarnations. We trust you to find those, and opt instead to limit this section to those toys explicitly labeled and marketed as representations of the Thirteenth Prime specifically.}}

===''Power of the Primes''===
[[File:POTP-SDCC-2018-Throne-of-the-Primes-Thirteenth-Prime.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|[[Optimal Situation|"This Matrix has the spark with it!"]]]]
<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-m1|'''Throne of the Primes''' (Multi-pack, [[2018]])}}</ul>
:*''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''PP-43'''
:*''TakaraTomy release date'': [[January 26]], [[2019]]
{{toydesigner|[[Marcelo Matere]] (throne designer, packaging artist)}}

:''[[Power of the Primes (toyline)|Power of the Primes]]'' "The Thirteenth" is a retool of the [[Vector Prime#Power of the Primes|Vector Prime]]/[[Metalhawk (G1)#Power of the Primes|Metalhawk]] inner robot, replacing that toy's blue parts with newly molded parts based on [[Prima#Marvel Comics continuity|Prima]]'s appearance in the Marvel Generation 1 comic, packaged in the [[Throne of the Primes#Toys|Throne of the Primes]] set.

:This toy has identical features to the other Prime Masters in the line. The [[Titan Master]]-like robot can store inside decoy armor or ride [[Size class|Legends Class]] figures in vehicle mode, and is fully compatible with toys from the previous ''[[Titans Return (toyline)|Titans Return]]'' line. The "Power Swap" gimmick means its [[spark]] form can plug onto any decoy armor's weapon form (which has a [[5 mm post]] to be held by larger figures), Deluxe Class figures' chest armor, Voyager Class figures' bucklers, Leader Class figures' [[Matrix of Leadership/toys#Power of the Primes|Matrix]] (in place of their Matrix core), [[combiner]]s' torsos (in place of their [[Enigma of Combination]]), or the included [[Scepter of Sparks]] or [[Halo of Primus]] accessories. With the power of [[you]]r imagination, this bestows the Prime Master's [[Prime Master/Combinations|unique power]] on the larger figure.

:This set debuted at [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2018, and was later sold via [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] online. It was also available at general retail in Taiwan.
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===''Age of the Primes''===
[[File:AOTPTitanStarConvoy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|And why don't we rewrite the stars? Changin' the world to be ours]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-pr13|'''The Thirteen Star Optimus Prime''' (Titan Class, [[2025]])}}</ul>
:*''TakaraTomy name:'' '''Star Optimus Prime''' (スターオプティマスプライム)
:*''TakaraTomy ID number:'' '''AOTP-10'''
:*''TakaraTomy release date:'' [[2025]] [[August 30]]
:*''Accessories:'' [[Micro Trailer#Age of the Primes|MT-13 Micro Trailer]], 2-part [[Roller (G1)#Age of the Primes|tread unit]], rifle, ammo clip/Energon bullet, swivel turret/blaster, 2 shoulder turrets, [[Silver Matrix#Age of the Primes|Matrix]]/hilt, [[Zodiac#Age of the Primes|Zodiac orb]], 14 [[Fire Blast effect|blast effects]]
{{toydesigner|[[Mark Maher]] (Hasbro), [[Shuhei Umezu]] (TakaraTomy)}}<ref name = "Cybertron Con 2024">[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjmcMC9nNoA Transformers Age of the Primes Reveal | Dive into the Legacy of the Thirteen Primes | Hasbro Pulse] with [[Mark Maher]] and [[Nate Purswell]]</ref>

:The ''[[Transformers: Age of the Primes|Age of the Primes]]'' incarnation of the Thirteenth Prime is Titan Class "[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#Age of the Primes|Star Optimus Prime]]", a full, proper update of the original [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Return of Convoy|Star Convoy]] figure, turning into a large truck with a wheeled cab and treaded trailer and a base almost identical to the design of the original, with a deco based on the [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#StarConvoyReissue|2005 reissue]]. He comes packaged with a rifle evoking the design of the original's "Galaxy Bomber," as well as a turret that converts into a blaster, 2 removable pairs of shoulder turrets, and a "sword hilt" adapter doohickey resembling the [[Silver Matrix]] included with the ''[[Generations Selects (toyline)|Generations Selects]]'' iteration of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#Generations Selects|Star Convoy]], all 5 mm port compatible. The rifle and turret/blaster can combine with the hilt to form a longer rifle, reproducing the "Big Bang Cannon" configuration of the ''Selects'' figure. A blue energon bullet (labeled as an "ammo clip" in the product description) is included that can clip into the side of the gun, in homage to the bounteous bullet casings flying in [[Ban Magami]]'s [[:File:Star Base Attack.jpg|original ''TV Magazine'' illustrations]].<ref name = "Cybertron Con 2024"/> The bullet is undocumented in the instructions, and doesn't attach to 5 mm gun barrels or 3 mm blast effect nodes. The hilt/Matrix is stored in one of the hollow calves of the figure (aka the trailer interior) when not in use, while the guns are simply attached to the roof of the trailer. Like most past Titans, Star Optimus Prime also includes multiple [[Fire Blast effect]]s, though he comes with more sets than others. The hilt can connect to any of them and be wielded by Optimus as a flaming sword. Lastly, the figure comes with a small Zodiac orb that serves as his [[Artifacts of the Primes|Artifact]], and is accordingly marked with his personal emblem. The Zodiac can store in his chest as seen in ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: The Battlestars (story page)|The Battlestars]]'' story pages. The hilt can be used as a dais to center the otherwise-dwarfed Zodiac within the chest cavity.<ref>[https://www.instagram.com/p/DFOshCXs2gV/ Part II] of [[Hasbro]] designer [[Mark Maher]]'s design notes on ''Age of the Primes'' Star Optimus Prime, on Instagram</ref>

:As with the original figure, Star Optimus Prime comes with a [[Micromaster]] version of [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#Age of the Primes|Hot Rod]] and a [[Micro Trailer]] to transport him. The vehicle's cab can be separated to reveal a pair of cannons and be attached to the roof of the trailer along with the main turret and one of the shoulder turrets to serve as a battle platform for Hot Rod resembling the battle station of [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#G1RodimusPrime|the original Rodimus Prime toy]]. Hot Rod attaches securely to the turrent by hooking his legs around pegs at the bottom. This battle station, sans the turret, is meant to be added to the base mode. The Micro Trailer is labeled as "MT-13," both because it comes with the Thirteenth Prime, and about the original Star Convoy coming with the fourteenth, unnumbered entry in ''Return of Convoy''{{'}}s assortment of Micro Trailers whose numbering stopped at MT-12.<ref>{{citesocial|quote=When I realized that Microtrailer 13 was the natural next number for the trailer I realized it was all truly meant to be. What a wild ride. I love Transformers!|link=https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/design-breakdown-for-age-of-the-primes-star-optimus-prime.1272984/page-8#post-23041932|site=Instagram story (archive on TFW2005)|name=Mark Maher|year=2025|month=01|day=22}}</ref> The Micro Trailer can store inside one of the figure's legs. Similar to the original toy, Hot Rod can sit in Star Optimus's chest cavity (easily cohabitating with the Zodiac), though it can't be fully closed up unless Hot Rod is in vehicle mode. A "tread unit" intended to be a new version of [[Roller (G1)|Roller's]] "[[Roller (G1)#Return of Convoy|Micro Carrier]]" form is also included in the form of the 2-piece, [[A.I.R. Lock System|A.I.R. Lock]]-compatible, ramp assembly for the base mode, which can store on the back of the legs. The Micro Carrier is intended to act as the primary home of the larger turret and features a spinning gimmick for the purpose. In the intended base mode configuration, Star Optimus's arm blocks the turret from spinning freely, but the arm can easily be moved out of the way.

:Star Optimus Prime has a minor [[misassembly]]—in many specimens, the clear plastic chest windows are not fully pressed flush into the chest cavities, leaving visible gaps at the corners. This can be fixed by unscrewing the clear plastic piece and maneuvering the corners better into position.

:Notably, Star Optimus Prime is smaller than his Titan Class predecessors, standing at a mere 15 inches. This coincides with the price decrease of Titans from $199.99 USD to $149.99 USD.

::*''Designer commentary on ''Age of the Primes'' Star Optimus Prime from Mark Maher on Instagram:''
::**''[https://www.instagram.com/p/DFElvtSsqoe/ Part I]''
::**''[https://www.instagram.com/p/DFOshCXs2gV/ Part II]''
::*''[[Source:Transformers Age of the Primes bios#AOTP10|Machine translation of Star Optimus Prime's TakaraTomy bio]]''
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==Notes==
[[File:Prima.jpg|right|thumb|"Identity theft is not a joke, ''Jim''!"]]
*The "Multiversal" Thirteen established by [[Fun Publications]] in [[Ask Vector Prime]] do not seem to have an especially significant thirteenth member, though [[Last Autobot|Autonomous Maximus]] shares several traits with the idea of the Thirteenth Prime, being Primus's final creation who remained dormant for millenia until he was awakened in the present day. This is just a coincidence, though—when the similarities were brought up to him, Archer noted it simply hadn't occurred to him to use the Last Autobot when [[HasLab (Hasbro department)|HasLab]] finalized the Thirteen's roster. <ref>{{citesocial|name=Sabrblade|site=Transformers Wiki Discord|link=https://discord.com/channels/656241088826441729/656248887534944265/1383918059731030137|day=15|month=06|year=2025|quote=I even brought up to him the idea of how the Last Autobot from Marvel G1 would have been a perfect fit for the 13th since the Last Autobot's whole thing was being the final original creation of Primus's before the rest of the Cybertronian race came about, and Aaron said that he simply didn't think of the Last Autobot at the time when he was working on the definitive roster of the Thirteen. His research at the time simply hadn't been thorough enough.}}</ref>
*The Prime Master of The Thirteenth is visually based on [[Prima]] as he appeared in the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel ''Transformers'' comics]].
*It's not entirely explicit what's going on with The Thirteenth in ''Power of the Primes'', but context clues ''seem'' to indicate that he's in some way the embodiment of the Matrix of Leadership itself: he isn't mentioned in the description of the [[Halo of Primus]], which only mentions the "12 Prime Masters", but shows The Thirteenth as the core of the Matrix, and the exclusive Prime Master collector card marked with his symbol only describes how the Matrix has chosen Optimal Optimus to lead Cybertron into a new era.<ref>The description of the Halo also mentions that "the powers of [[Primus]] are united as one", but whether this means as one bearer or as one Prime Master is left frustratingly vague.</ref> This would seem to line up with comments made by [[Hasbro]] representatives at [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2017 that the Thirteenth Prime ''was'' whoever bore the Matrix of Leadership.
*''Age of the Primes'' is similarly light on details, with Hasbro characterizing Star Optimus Prime as created at the dawn of time with the other Primes via inclusion in the line's [[Energon bloodline|"descendant" gimmick]] while TakaraTomy employed a version of the [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#The Battlestars manga and story pages|original Star Convoy{{'}}s]] characterization as a modern-day Optimus Prime upgraded by the Zodiac in the [[Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]. Little attempt is made to bridge the two, though the most straightforward {{w|Marvel No-Prize|No-Prize}} is some iteration of [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Aligned Optimus Prime]]{{'}}s reincarnation schtick.
*The ''[[Transformers One Sourcebook]]'' for the ''[[Transformers Roleplaying Game]]'' suggests that the Arisen could turn out to be [[Optimus Prime (disambiguation)|Optimus]], [[Rodimus (disambiguation)|Rodimus]] or [[Sentinel Prime (disambiguation)|Sentinel Prime]], or even a player character!
*The ''Age of the Primes'' incarnation of The Thirteenth was originally envisioned as a Voyager Class figure —affectionately nicknamed "God Prime"— that was conceptually similar to the Arisen. However, the figure evolved into a Titan Class incarnation of Star Optimus Prime when it was ultimately decided to have the Primes span across a variety of different scales.<ref>{{citesocial|quote=While the team chose Titan Star Optimus, my initial thought was a voyager-scale God Prime. Basically, something to the effect of how the 13th Prime was the Arisen. But once we put together the whole collection, it was cool to hit every scale.|link=https://news.tfw2005.com/2025/06/06/tfw-x-mark-maher-qa-aotp-haslabs-commanders-more-539034|site=TFW2005|name=Mark Maher|year=2025|month=06|day=05}}</ref>

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''The Thirteen''' (ザ・サーティーン ''Za Sātīn'')

==Gallery==
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File:AOTP Star Optimus Prime Hasbro China promo art.jpg|''Age of the Primes'' promotional art.
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==References==
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[[Category:Age of the Primes Autobots]]
[[Category:Age of the Primes characters]]
[[Category:Deep lore characters]]
[[Category:IDW (2019) Transformers]]
[[Category:Prime Masters]]
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[[Category:Transformers Roleplaying Game Transformers]]

The Fallen

2026-02-07T00:30:09Z

Alientraveller: /* Fun Publications */

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[[File:AOTP Fallen bot mode.jpg|upright=1.96|thumb|"Eh, y'know, it's funny, these people, they go to sleep, they think everything's fine, everything's good... they wake up the next day and they're on fire!"]]
When [[Primus]] created the [[Thirteen|first Transformers]], he made a "Dark Warrior" who would be in touch with entropy and destruction. Known as '''Megatronus''' or '''Megatronus Prime''', he is the most powerful of the original [[Prime (rank)|Primes]], who [[Expulsion of Unicron|battled]] [[Unicron]] in the earliest days of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. When not using fiery mystic abilities, [[dark science]], or [[Void Scepter|gravitational powers]], he wields the most dangerous of [[Artifacts of the Primes|artifacts]]: the [[Requiem Blaster (Thirteen)|Requiem Blaster]].

Unfortunately, his inherently dark nature often leads him down a tragic path. In most realities, his original name is replaced by a more well-known title: '''the Fallen'''. Often manipulated by [[Liege Maximo|other]] [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|members]] of the Thirteen, the Fallen is best known for becoming a [[Transformer|Cybertronian]] analog to the biblical {{w|Cain}}, committing Cybertron's first murder with the death of his [[Solus Prime|beloved]]. In some realities, he willingly betrays the Thirteen by siding with Unicron, and becomes the "the first Decepticon", making him more akin to {{w|Judas Iscariot|Judas}}. Even in realities where he doesn't take a villainous turn, [[Megatron (One)|his legacy]] is inevitably one of betrayal and death.

While his size, shape, and colors may vary between realities, his most common physical feature is his face, which often serves as the inspiration for a certain [[Decepticon|faction]]'s [[insignia]] during the [[Great War (disambiguation)|Great War]].

In short: he's usually bad, bad news.

{{bigquote|You... you're from '''before'''. Aren't you? Before the '''Golden Age''', before recorded time.|[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]|"[[Confrontation (issue)|Confrontation]]"}}

==Conceptual history==
[[File:Fallenpatlee.jpg|thumb|upright=1.3|Original Dreamwave Productions concept art for the Fallen]]
Created by writer [[Simon Furman]] and artist [[Pat Lee]]<ref>[[Pat Lee#Failure to give proper credit|Allegedly.]]</ref> with contributions from [[Andrew Wildman]]<ref>Namely the fire thing.</ref> and [[Don Figueroa]], the Fallen debuted in the [[2003]] [[Dreamwave Productions]] comic mini-series ''[[Transformers: War Within: The Dark Ages|War Within: The Dark Ages]]'' as a [[Herald of Unicron]]. A mysterious, fiery being from the Transformers' ancient past, he returned to Cybertron to enact the [[Unbinding]], a ritual that would alert Unicron to Primus's location. Wielding mystical, entropic abilities, he was defeated by his creator, trapping him within the [[Seal of Primus]]. Only a month after this series concluded, ''[[Transformers: The Ultimate Guide]]''—also written by Furman—was released, and filled in more details of the Fallen's backstory, established him to be one of the mysterious "Thirteen Original Transformers" created by Primus to battle Unicron. According to the Guide, the Fallen betrayed his siblings by joining forces with Unicron, and the battle ended with the Fallen being sucked into a black hole until his escape, as seen in ''The Dark Ages''. A [[2007]] [[bio]] written for the Fallen's ''[[Titanium Series]]'' toy would reveal he was the overseer of entropy.<ref>[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/toys/titanium/the-fallen/1126/2/9/ Fallen's ''Titanium Series'' on-package bio]</ref>

As various parties slowly developed the concept of the Thirteen, [[2009]] would be a significant year for the character, becoming the titular main antagonist of the [[Live-action film series]]' second film, ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]''. The film would establish the character's connection to Megatron, and use his Decepticon-insignia-looking face to cement him as the true originator of the Decepticons: "The First Decepticon". Despite his death in the film, online Q&A sessions with [[Hasbro]] representatives<ref>See [[Hasbro Q&A/July 2009: Answers|Hasbro Q&A/July 2009: Answer #3]] for more information.</ref> established that the Fallen and his siblings were "[[multiversal singularity|multiversal singularities]]": special entities who existed across all realities, moving between them; this provided a loophole for the Fallen to survive the events of the film.

The novels of the [[Aligned continuity family]] significantly fleshed out the character's backstory, relationships, and weaponry. The [[2010]] novel ''[[Transformers: Exodus|Exodus]]'' established his original name of Megatronus, further strengthening the character's connection to Megatron and the Decepticon cause. Its sequel, [[2011]]'s ''[[Transformers: Exiles|Exiles]]'', re-introduced the Requiem Blaster as the personal artifact of Megatronus, unlike the Mini-Con weapon of ''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]''. The novel would reveal that the weapon's existence became a great point of contention among the Primes, and would be the weapon that killed [[Solus Prime]], who was introduced as his love interest. Two years later, ''[[Transformers: The Covenant of Primus|The Covenant of Primus]]'' provided an alternate, less-villainous interpretation of the Fallen's backstory, exploring his tense relationship with [[Prima]], the "Warrior of Light", and how the manipulations of the silver-tongued [[Liege Maximo]] led to an accidental death of Solus Prime in the [[War of the Primes]]. This less-villainous, more tragic interpretation of the character would be largely ignored when he made his proper television debut in the [[2015]] [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon]], which highlighted his role as the "First Decepticon".

The Fallen was introduced to IDW Publishing's [[2005 IDW continuity|long-running continuity]], being mentioned in [[The Crucible|''Robots in Disguise'' #34]], and making visual appearances in [[Heavy|''Till All Are One ''#9]], [[Origin Myths|''Optimus Prime'' #10]], and [[The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|''Optimus Prime'' #18]], albeit in flashback sequences. In this universe, Megatronus and the rest of the Thirteen were warlords of [[Thirteen Tribes]] rather than demigods.

Concurrently with IDW's continuity, the concept of multiversal singularities was nullified in the 2015 Collectors' Club comic storyline ''[[Another Light]]''. The [[All Things Must Pass|final episode]] of the [[Transformers: Titans Return (cartoon)|''Titans Return'' cartoon]] introduced an amalgamated version of the Fallen—featuring his fiery abilities of the Dreamwave incarnation and the Egyptian-crown-like head and color scheme of ''Revenge of the Fallen''. The proceeding [[Transformers: Power of the Primes (cartoon)|''Power of the Primes'' cartoon]] would adapt his backstory from ''The Covenant of Primus'', featuring the Requiem Blaster and Solus Prime prominently in flashbacks and the present-day story.

For a few years, the Fallen was absent from ''Transformers'' media, save the rare cameo appearance in the [[2019 IDW continuity]] or mention in ''[[Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)|Cyberverse]]'', until [[2024]] brought him back to relevance with the ''[[Transformers One (film)|Transformers One]]'' film. The film established Megatronus Prime as the strongest and most powerful of the Primes, whose facial design was virtually identical to the Decepticon insignia, including its purple color. Unlike previous incarnations, this Megatronus remained heroic right up to his death, having never betrayed or murdered his fellow Primes. Later that year, the ''[[Transformers: Age of the Primes|Age of the Primes]]'' toyline would be revealed, introducing "Megatronus the Fallen" as a Leader Class toy inspired primarily by his appearance in ''War Within: The Dark Ages''.

==Fiction==
===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===
[[File:Thefallen.jpg|left|thumb|"Like the Phoenix, I have risen from the ashes. And into my fire, you shall fall."]]
When Primus and Unicron first battled as planets, Primus created the first 13 Transformers to assist him in planet mode. The Fallen's original purpose as one of the 13 was to oversee entropy, the orderly dissolution of all things in preparation for the next creation. But the concept of destruction fascinated him too much, and he lost sight of the goal of rebirth and the necessity of restraint. His investigations into the dark sciences led him to Unicron, to whom he gave himself.<ref>[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/toys/titanium/the-fallen/1126/2/9/ Fallen's ''Titanium Series'' on-package bio]</ref> Corrupted by Unicron, the Fallen then tried to sabotage his creator's body. This attempt ended in failure, and "the Fallen" fled to his master, but there was little refuge to be found: They were both sucked into a [[Black hole (phenomenon)|black hole]]. {{storylink|Transformers: The Ultimate Guide}}

Approximately 7 million years before the 21st century, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] were lost in a [[space bridge]] accident. This accident weakened the barrier between reality and [[unspace|the dimension]] in which the Fallen was trapped, allowing the Fallen to eventually break free and return to Cybertron. The Fallen set about initiating the "[[Unbinding]]", to precipitate the return of Unicron, and spent years, if not millennia, subtly manipulating the Autobots and Decepticons, causing them to splinter into multiple sub-factions that engaged in a constant series of escalating conflicts.

[[File:Thefallengrimlock.jpg|thumb|Someone should tell Grimlock this more often.]]
As the time for the Unbinding drew near, the Fallen recruited a [[Chaos Trinity|trio of Decepticon outcasts]], [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]], [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]], and [[Bugly (G1)|Bugly]], who hungered for a command of [[Dark science|the occult]]. The Fallen promised them all manner of dark powers in exchange for serving him. Leading his three followers to the [[Well of All Sparks]], hidden within Cybertron, he explained that the Unbinding required four particular Transformers, who would function as "angles in the geometry of dissolution", and named [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] as the first. {{storylink|Fragmentation (G1)|Fragmentation}}

The Fallen and company proceeded to construct a strange machine within the Well of All Sparks in preparation for the Unbinding. Unfortunately, Bludgeon and friends got impatient for more than the Fallen's praise and demanded a more tangible reward: the arcane power he had promised them. The Fallen responded by grabbing Bludgeon's head and giving him a mere glimpse of what he sought: images of a fiery vortex, demonic faces, stabbing swords and a human skull engulfed Bludgeon. The Fallen stated that this was but a peek inside a dark door he would fully open if they served him well. This left Bludgeon suitably inspired to begin hunting down their targets.

Bugly and Mindwipe leaked information to draw the [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]] out into combat with [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], while Bludgeon hatched a plot to snare both Grimlock and [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]. {{storylink|Escalation}} Bludgeon, Bugly, and Mindwipe ambushed Jetfire as he attempted a cross-faction meeting with [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. When Grimlock crashed the party earlier than they expected, however, the Fallen himself had to intervene and caught Grimlock's blazing energo-sword in his bare hand. {{storylink|Revelation (The Dark Ages)|Revelation}}

Grimlock took one punch from the Fallen yet still got back up, so the Fallen grabbed him by the shoulders and unleashed a huge blast of energy that put the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]] leader out cold. Shocked by the display, Jetfire surmised that the Fallen predated the Golden Age. The Fallen responded by knocking Jetfire out cold too. He then dragged Grimlock and Jetfire away and commanded his followers to gather the third angle, while he handled the fourth. The Fallen singlehandedly abducted [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] from his well-guarded holding cell in Autobot headquarters, shrugging off attacks by some of the Autobots' best warriors and causing their weapons to corrode away into uselessness with a mere gesture. Bludgeon's team, meanwhile, succeeded in acquiring [[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]] from the Protectobots.

[[File:Fallenmoreonfire.jpg|thumb|left|The Fallen somehow sets himself ''more on fire''.]]
All four angles were strapped to the device in the Well of All Sparks. The Fallen theatrically explained to the awakening Jetfire that they were casualties in the war of the Gods, and would be used to break the Seal of Primus, after which "all chaos will follow". {{storylink|Confrontation (issue)|Confrontation}}

The Fallen continued his villainous monologue, apparently directing it not at Jetfire but at Primus himself, as the four Transformers' unique sparks were drained to unlock the Seal of Primus. A combined army of forces from several factions defeated the Chaos Trinity and penetrated the Fallen's operation. By the time they reached the door, the Fallen was satisfied that the Transformers were too late, until Jetfire arranged a force-field to surround the Seal. The Fallen was further impressed that Jetfire understood enough to try to contain the Seal, but his distraction cost him victory: the God of Light himself was subsequently roused from his slumber where he saw the Fallen. With a gesture of his radiant hand, Primus engulfed his wayward creation in a torrent of searing energy that was then sucked back into the Seal of Primus. {{storylink|Conflagration}}

{{Unreleased DW G1 comic}}
Shockwave broke the Seal for his cloning experiments, siphoning from within it the energy needed to create life. The Fallen's essence had then escaped and corrupted [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]]. Following the clone's death, the Fallen's essence passed into Jetfire. Within visions, The Fallen attacked the Autobot over and over, while around them various key moments in Cybertron's history unfolded. Jetfire returned to reality as the Autobots were digging him free from the frozen prison he now found himself in. He was unable to warn them that the Fallen's essence had taken root in his spark as they broke through the ice holding him. {{storylink|The Enemy Within}}
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===Fun Publications===
[[File:The Evil One.jpg|left|upright=0.8|thumb|"Someone remembered me!"]]
Though [[Vector Prime]] did not necessarily think history was wrong to record Megatronus as a monster, he ''was'' his brother, and Vector still had happy memories of their time together before Megatronus's fall from grace. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/06/14}} During the Thirteen's time in ancient Greece in some [[universal stream]]s, the holomatter avatar that the rage-filled Megatronus used to interact with the human population inspired the myth of {{w|Ares}}. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/07/20}} He used to have an impressive collection of antique melee weapons before [[Sideways (AVP)|Sideways]] ruined it with Cosmic Rust... at least, according to Sideways. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Sideways, 2015/07/02}}

In the [[Gargent]] realities, where he went by the name "'''the Evil One'''", Megatronus nearly destroyed [[Gobotron]] with the Dark Heart, only to wind up under the [[Nazca Lines]] on Earth. [[Vector Prime]] noted that this was not the only reality where Megatronus was drawn to human pyramids and wondered if there was any link to [[Devil Z]]'s own affinity for pyramids and the Nazca Lines. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/05/30}} [[Cy-Kill (GoBots)|Cy-Kill]] would even be heard to swear by the Evil One. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Renegade Rhetoric|Renegade Rhetoric (1), 2015/10/13}}

[[File:Vectorprimeut.jpg|thumb|upright=0.8|Back, and to the left.]]
Jealous of his brothers and sisters, Megatronus was motivated to move against his siblings, and targeted Prima's [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|Star Saber]], intending to take it for his own. To keep it out of his hands, [[Solus Prime]] shattered the blade with her [[Forge of Solus Prime|Forge]], and each piece was taken by one of [[Nexus Prime]]'s components and scattered across the multiverse. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/05/18}} {{storylink|Out of the One, Many}}

Millions of years later, when [[Vector Prime]] returned to the linear universe to deal with the [[Unicron Singularity]] crisis, he reminisced about his mission and his past, including the silhouetted form of the Fallen. {{storylink|Vector Prime: In the Beginning}} Vector's return was soon followed by the that of Nexus Prime, who set about reassembling the Star Saber. While visiting [[Primax 509.28 Epsilon|one universe]]'s Cybertron as part of his quest for the sword's fragments, Nexus decided to tell his companion [[Aquarius (SG)|Aquarius]] about his quest. As he explained the danger of the artifact falling into evil hands, the face of the Fallen flashed through his mind. {{storylink|The Coming Storm: Part 1}}

When dimensional scoundrel [[Sideways (AVP)|Sideways]] seized control of Vector Prime's [[Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|ANN Q&A column]], he commented, "Every time The Fallen polishes his pistons reality splits," to explain why he could be cloned. Surprisingly, this was actually the truth, more or less. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Sideways, 2015/06/29}}

When Nexus succeeded in locating the Star Saber, he combined its power with that of the [[Terminus Blade]] to [[Shroud|thicken the walls of reality]], limiting dimensional travel. The Fallen and the other members of the Thirteen gathered to witness this momentous event, and found that, as a side effect, they ceased to exist as [[Multiversal singularity|multiversal singularities]]. {{storylink|Out of the One, Many}}
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===Live-action film series continuity family===
====''Revenge of the Fallen'' film====
{{voiceactor|[[Tony Todd]] (English), [[Masafumi Kimura]] (Japanese)|[[Zhao Xiaoming]] (Chinese), [[José Luccioni]] (European French), [[Bert Franzke]] (German), [[Gabriel Pingarrón]] (Latin American-Spanish), [[Ramón Canals]] (Castilian Spanish), [[Carlos Gesteira]] (Portuguese), [[Gaetano Varcasia]] (Italian), [[Ender Yiğit]] (Turkish)}}

[[File:TheFallen-ROTFwithPrimes.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.95|''Way-oh, way-oh, oh-way-oh-way-oooooh'']]
Nineteen thousand years ago, the Fallen accompanied [[Dynasty of Primes|his brother Primes]] to [[Earth]] in an attempt to harvest the [[Sun|star]] it orbited. Just as they had completed construction of the [[Star Harvester]], however, the Fallen discovered [[Human|a primitive race of hunters]]. The Primes invoked their rule of the sanctity of life and refused to activate the harvester, but the Fallen despised the humans as simple insects and attempted to activate the Harvester. A great battle took place, but ultimately, the Fallen was defeated and the remaining Primes hid themselves and the [[Matrix of Leadership]], and the Fallen's harvester was concealed within a pyramid in [[Egypt]]. The Fallen dispatched the [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seekers]] to locate the Matrix, but they proved unable and he eventually abandoned them. The Fallen became known as the first [[Decepticon]], and he became the master of [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], leader of the faction. He employed Megatron in the pursuit of the [[AllSpark]], but after Megatron's defeat at [[Mission City]], the AllSpark was reduced to a mere fragment.

[[File:TheFallen-ROTFNemesis.jpg|thumb|upright=1.95|''Ocupado!'']]
Upon Megatron's revival he traveled to the ''[[Nemesis (ROTF)|Nemesis]]'', where the Fallen stayed in a life-support chair while [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] oversaw the creation of a new army of Decepticons. Prostrating himself before the Fallen, Megatron said that he had failed his master and their race by allowing the AllSpark to be destroyed. Amused by his disciple's misinformation, the Fallen revealed that the cube was merely a vessel, while the knowledge within the AllSpark was instead placed within the mind of the human who had challenged Megatron, [[Sam Witwicky]]. With the knowledge within Sam's mind, they could find the Star Harvester and the Matrix needed to activate it. Megatron asked permission to avenge himself and reclaim the AllSpark, but the Fallen asked for patience, though he could understand his desire, as the Fallen himself hungered to return to the wretched planet where his brother Primes had betrayed him. The Fallen also explained that the only threat to him was the last surviving Prime, [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus]]. Since Optimus would protect Sam, the Fallen ordered Megatron to capture the boy and draw out the Prime.

Megatron's mission was partially successful: although the boy escaped, Optimus came to defend him and died in the process. The Fallen sensed his death and was very pleased, knowing that the time to strike was now. When the Decepticons traveled to the Earth's surface in [[transition form|re-entry mode]]s, the Fallen accompanied them, destroying an [[USS Theodore Roosevelt|aircraft carrier]] as well as attacking several cities. As the aircraft carrier sank into the ocean, the Fallen quietly intoned that revenge was finally his. The Fallen tapped into Earth's communication network, and announced the presence of the Transformers on Earth on worldwide television, demanding the "human hive" hand over Sam or be destroyed.

[[File:ROTF Fallen headchop.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.66|Can't. Take. Our. Sun. Unless you got buns, hon! And, oh man, he don't.]]
Unfortunately, Sam was in Egypt hunting for the [[Matrix of Leadership]] after being told it might be able to revive Optimus. He succeeded, but moments after Prime's resurrection, the Fallen appeared amongst the assorted NEST troops, scattering the soldiers, pinning Optimus, and stealing the Matrix. He then teleported to the harvester that was uncovered earlier by [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]], and as he inserted the Matrix into the machine, he declared that his brothers had failed as he now claimed the Sun. While it charged, the humans attempted to destroy the harvester with their heavy weapons. Unimpressed with their display, the Fallen demonstrated his considerable power by destroying the attacking military forces with telekinesis, then raised a blockade of debris to prevent an air strike. However, a super-powered Optimus Prime, now fused with [[Jetfire (Movie)|Jetfire]], destroyed the harvester and attacked the Fallen, sending them both falling to the ground below.

[[File:TheFallen-ROTFfacegotten.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Don't talk to me or my Sun ever again!]]
{{quote|Die, like your brothers!}}
{{quote|They were your brothers, too.|The Fallen and [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]|''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]''}}

Enraged, the Fallen commanded Optimus to join his brothers in death and two engaged in a fierce duel, but it quickly became apparent that Optimus was strong enough to face the Fallen. Megatron attacked Optimus in an attempt to help his master, but was quickly overpowered and knocked out. The Fallen counterattacked Optimus, managing to rip off Prime's left rocket thruster and strike him in the face with it. However, Optimus eventually managed to impale the Fallen through the shoulder with his own spear, then demanded his face, tearing it off. The Fallen tried to flee, but Optimus Prime punched through his chest and ripped out his spark core, finally killing the Fallen.

Afterwards, a wounded and horrified Megatron fled with Starscream, and the Autobots and their allies declared victory. {{Storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

{{note|The Fallen's involvement in the preceding events, or events mostly similar, were also chronicled in the novels ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (novel)|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen]]'', ''[[Revenge of the Fallen: The Junior Novel]]'', and ''[[The Last Prime]]''; the ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Official Movie Adaptation]]'' and ''[[Movie Trilogy]]'' comics; and the storybooks "[[I Am Optimus Prime (ROTF)|I Am Optimus Prime]]", "[[Rise of the Decepticons]]", "[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Electronic Voice Changer]]", and "[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Mix & Match]]". Most of these adaptations are based on early drafts of the script and provide more backstory for the Fallen, such as his hunt for the descendants of his brother Primes, and his promise to Megatron that he would make him a Prime—something Optimus exposes as a lie during their final battle, as one can only be born a Prime, leading Megatron to abandon his teacher. In several, Optimus defeats him not by killing him, but by [[:File:TheFallen-thrownintospace.jpg|hurling him into space]].}}
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====IDW movie comics====
[[File:Defianceissue4-creation.jpg|left|thumb|upright=0.85|Look [[Prima|familiar]]?]]
According to the Fallen, he and his brothers were the first creations of the [[AllSpark]]. The planet that would become [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] was mostly barren, but as the AllSpark gradually shaped Cybertron around them and gave the Fallen and his brothers power beyond measure, the cube's own power was depleted. They learned that its power could be replenished by harvesting the energy of stars, but they were unable to locate new stars to suit their purposes, despite their amazing ability to travel between dimensions using triangular "[[sarcophagus|sarcophagi]]". {{storylink|Defiance issue 4|Defiance #4}} As he quested, the Fallen came to believe that the AllSpark was speaking to him, telling him of a grander destiny than that of his brothers, picking him as its "chosen one." {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 4|Tales of the Fallen #4}}

To aid the Dynasty of Primes in their quest, the AllSpark created for them a race of [[Transformer|workers]] that had a power of their own: the ability to transform their bodies into new forms! Some, called "[[Seeker (ROTF)|Seekers]]", could change into interstellar crafts that could locate stars for them, the energies of which would then be harvested to power the AllSpark by massive devices built by the [[Constructicon (ROTF)|other workers]]. The Dynasty tempered their search with the rule of sparing stars with inhabited worlds, but the Fallen believed that the Dynasty's compassion would ultimately doom the Cybertronians to inevitable extinction. As he sought a way to fix this problem, the Fallen came to think evil thoughts. What if there were no other Primes to share the AllSpark with? What if its power was his alone? {{storylink|Defiance issue 4|Defiance #4}}

[[File:TalesoftheFallen4-theyshallpay.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Yummy, yummy, yummy, I got hate in my tummy!]]
The Fallen began to court some Transformers to his side. He selected a small number of the [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicon]] drones to do his bidding in private, ultimately in service of subverting the Dynasty of Primes in favor of his own agenda. He called this group the Decepticons. [[Jetfire (Movie)|Jetfire]], the Fallen's most trusted and capable Seeker, began to unwittingly harvest the stars of inhabited star systems; the two would scan a system together, but the Fallen would report that his search areas were devoid of life. This practice got the Fallen and Jetfire into trouble with the other Primes, and so the Fallen began to sow seeds of mistrust in Jetfire. He claimed the Primes' refusal to sacrifice life to save their own planet would be its downfall, and that an army had to be readied in case the Primes betrayed them all. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 3|Tales of the Fallen #3}}

The Fallen attempted to build a Star Harvester on his own, powered by a counterfeit [[Matrix of Leadership]] he had constructed. However, it was unstable, and the resulting explosion infused the Fallen with power he had never known. He now burned with dark, unimaginable powers from within. The Fallen, feeling a darker sense of purpose that complemented his darker powers, traveled from world to world to world, killing scores of organisms and assimilating their technology, and leaving the dry husks of planets in his wake. He evolved, and during his ascension he planned for the eventual battle with his brothers. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 4|Tales of the Fallen #4}}

As Jetfire joined the Decepticons, The Fallen took them to a planet named Earth, and they built a [[Star Harvester]] to claim the [[Sun]]. However, it, too, harbored life: the Fallen was building the harvester there to either bait his brothers into taking action (while he was prepared to kill them all) or to remain in limbo. Either way, he won! Jetfire finally turned against his master, just as the remaining Primes arrived, falling into the traitor's trap. The Fallen warped Jetfire and his other underlings away and faced his brothers alone. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 3|Tales of the Fallen #3}}

[[File:TalesoftheFallen4-notlikethis.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|left|Ever since he was a child, he was hated by triangles.]]
The battle between the Fallen and the other Primes was costly. They did not expect the Fallen to have so much power, and one by one they fell by his wretched hand. He had "expanded [his] consciousness—absorbed the mental mass of a hive intelligence seventy trillion strong, probed the neural functions of creatures that swim in unrefined thought..." Since last they met, he was "so much more" than they were. The Fallen was able to grab weapons from his stockpile through personal dimensional portals, and one by one he murdered his brothers until there was only one Prime left to oppose him. With one last desperate gamble, the final Prime fled, and he and the Fallen warped from location to location; the Fallen thought this Prime was merely stalling, but he was gravely mistaken. The final Prime had gathered up the bodies of his defeated brothers, and when at last he had collected them all and the Fallen was weak from overteleportation, he used their combined lifeforce to banish the Fallen forever. The Fallen was sent through his sarcophagus and trapped in another dimension, where he crashed into a desolate landscape, swearing revenge. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 4|Tales of the Fallen #4}}{{storylink|Foundation issue 2|Foundation #2}}

Knowledge of this was lost through the ages, and the Dynasty of Primes became little more than a myth. Thousands of years later, however, the Fallen's sarcophagus was unearthed on modern-day Cybertron and brought to the quarters of the planet's military leader Megatron. There, sensing the fury and resentment, the Fallen established contact with Megatron, filling him with a new resolve to destroy those who sought out the AllSpark. {{Storylink|Defiance issue 2|Defiance #2}} In the aftermath of Megatron's ruthless battle against a band of [[Ejoornian|aliens]] seeking the AllSpark, the Fallen further counseled him to seize control of Cybertron to make way for The Fallen's return. He also told him that [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus]] sought the AllSpark for himself, and Megatron immediately decided that Optimus and his followers deserved to be killed for this transgression. {{Storylink|Defiance issue 3|Defiance #3}}

[[File:Defiance4 Megatron TheFallen.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|All right, who changed the thermostat!?]]
But simply taking the planet would not be enough. The Fallen also ordered Megatron to build a [[Nemesis (Movie)|space cruiser]] to seek out the Matrix, which he said was a prerequisite to his return. As the ship's construction came to an end, the Fallen told Megatron the story of his origin and his plans regarding the harvester on Earth. The Fallen ordered Megatron to put his sarcophagus on the ship and then stay behind to fight Optimus's forces and safeguard the AllSpark. [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] and a majority of the Decepticon soldiers crewed the ship.
Meanwhile, on Cybertron, civil war raged between Optimus's Autobots and Megatron's Decepticons, a war which eventually led to the AllSpark being launched into space. {{storylink|Defiance issue 4|Defiance #4}} {{storylink|Foundation issue 3|Foundation #3}}

The ''Nemesis'' came across the AllSpark's energon signature, to Soundwave's disbelief. The Fallen began speaking to Soundwave just as a [[Ark (DOTM)|ship]] crashed into the ''Nemesis'', and disappeared once more through a portal. After landing the ship on a dead planet, Soundwave was commanded to pursue the ship via the portal—that the Fallen recognized as a [[space bridge]]—it left behind. {{storylink|Convergence chapter 1}} Later, Megatron found the abandoned ''Nemesis'' during his pursuit of the AllSpark. He once again spoke with the Fallen, who was furious that Megatron had taken this detour. He ordered him to resume the chase immediately, confident that the Cube would guide them to the harvester. Megatron obeyed, leaving the sarcophagus in the barren wreckage. {{storylink|Defiance issue 4|Defiance #4}}

Thousands of years later, Soundwave returned, having recovered a space bridge [[pillar]] from the Autobot ship. The Fallen informed Soundwave of Megatron's visit, and Soundwave deduced Megatron was one of the Cybertronians rumored to be held captive by the humans, prompting him to return. The Fallen then used the pillar to warp space and time, leaving his prison at last... {{storylink|Convergence chapter 4}}

====''Transformers: The Movie Universe''====
The original Transformers, all of them Primes, were united by a directive that safeguarded all life, and as such they refused to utilize the harvester on the inhabited Earth. One of their number, however, decided "I want Energon!" and slaughtered his brothers so he could harvest the Sun. He threw away his original name and became the Fallen. In the end, he slaughtered all of his brethren, but they were still able to imprison him in a pocket dimension and save the Earth. In the process, his appearance had changed to a terrifying, cage-like exostructure burning with chaotic energies from the universe's creation, forces that had purged him of all morality. Since his body was never meant to contain the unholy power flowing through it, he had to steadily vent that energy to ensure his own continued existence. This created the visual effect of a constant fiery nimbus.

While effectively harmless to the universe outside his prison, his powers remained vast: He could generate space bridges spontaneously, as well as focus his energies into discrete blasts that could unmake creation itself. Were he ever able to escape, he would be a supremely powerful danger. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe|The Movie Universe}}

====Titan movie comics====
The Fallen was the worst of the worst—he made Devastator look like a puppy with a bad tummy! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.3|#3's Contents section}}

Legend had it that the first seven Transformers were created by [[Primus]], but the Fallen believed them to be creations of the AllSpark. Their task was to harvest Energon for the AllSpark without endangering alien life, but the Fallen cared nothing for the [[Human|puny meatsacks]] of Earth and tried to harvest the Sun! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.3|The Fallen Profile}} His duped servant Jetfire watched in horror as the Fallen imprisoned the other six Primes! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.8|Jetfire Profile}} However, the Primes still managed to sacrifice themselves to hide the Creation Matrix, key to the AllSpark, while the Fallen was imprisoned in a pocket dimension on one of Saturn's moons... until Megatron released him! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.3|The Fallen Profile}}

[[File:Titan1 FallenStarscream.jpg|upright=2|thumb|left|Behold my <s>resting</s> mighty hand!]]
Soon after Megatron's death in Mission City, the Fallen made contact with [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and used him to organize the Decepticon army and lay the groundwork for his return. He ordered Starscream and his forces to go to Cybertron and await further instruction, and promised that once the Matrix was found, [[Earth]] would ''burn''! Unfortunately for the Fallen, Autobot twins [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] learned the Starscream was colluding with the Fallen (though not who or what the Fallen ''was''), and headed for Earth to warn Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.1|Training Day}} The Fallen had [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] contact one of his Seekers still on the planet, [[Ransack (ROTF)|Ransack]], and had him dispatched him to deal with the Twins. He angrily warned Starscream not to fail again, grrrr! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.2|Dogfight!}}

However, due to his imprisonment, the Fallen could only communicate with his generals and not Ransack directly, which led to Soundwave taking his own actions and working his own angles to try and find the Tomb of the Primes, which included recruiting the Twins, rather than eliminating them. In a fitting act of cosmic irony, the twins turned out to be faking their defection, and they put an end to Soundwave's treacherous scheme. Ransack intended to inform the Fallen, but evidently never made it, while Skids and Mudflap decided that, after all the trouble they had gotten in to after coming to Earth, they'd better not tell anyone about that whole "Fallen" thing they'd learned about after all. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.8|Back-to-Back}}

=====Law and Disorder=====
The Fallen suffered from iron barnacles in the folds of his armor... and if YOU were an Autobot sympathizer, you would be forced to clean them out! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.7|#7's Law and Disorder}}

====Toy bios====
[[File:TF2010-The-Fallen-art.jpg|thumb|I did more things here than on my feature film.]]
Since even before history was recorded on Cybertron, the Fallen has lurked in the shadows, guiding the fate of his fellow machines. His is the hand in the darkness that drives the engines of fate. It was him that engineered the civil war on Cybertron and drove the Decepticons to slaughter their Autobot counterparts. Now on the primitive, flesh-slug infected planet known as Earth, he has stepped out of the shadows to finally seize the [[Star Harvester|power]] he has sought for millennia. {{storylink|The Fallen/toys#Robot Replicas|Robot Replicas The Fallen}}

For thousands of years, the Fallen has recruited proxies to scour the cosmos for the star harvester he required before returning to Earth, the very planet on which his quest began. Nothing will stand in his way this time, and he will scour the surface of this disgusting world clean in the fire of his rage and search through the blasted rubble for that which he seeks. {{storylink|The Fallen/toys#Voyager Class toys|''Revenge of the Fallen'' Voyager The Fallen}}

Aware that only a true Prime can destroy him, the Fallen has entered every battle knowing that the outcome of his victory is inevitable. Modern-day Autobots such as [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] and [[Highbrow (TF 2010)|Highbrow]] stand no chance against him, for he wields the power of advanced technology that looks like magic. The Fallen will crush the miserable Autobots that dare to challenge him before proceeding with his plans as if the interruption never occurred. {{storylink|The Fallen/toys#TF2010Voyager|''Hunt for the Decepticons'' Voyager The Fallen}}

As a desperate battle raged in the desert below him, the Fallen reveled in his triumph. The ancient machine with which he intends to harvest the Sun's energy would soon be uncovered and the Earth would be destroyed if he were to win. {{storylink|The Fallen/toys#Transformers (2010)|The Victory of The Fallen}}

====Ask Vector Prime====
Vector Prime recounted the story of [[Tyran 208.28 Gamma]], an alternate timeline in which Megatron and the Decepticons triumphed in the battle of [[Mission City]], but were then trapped on the dead Cybertron by the Autobots before they managed to free The Fallen. Sensing the loss of his servants, the Fallen summoned a new army of Decepticons (including [[Blue Maximus]], [[Chopsaw]], [[Undertow (PCC)|Undertow]], and [[Duststorm (TF 2010)|Duststorm]]) to terrorize Earth! Many an epic battle was fought against them! {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/08/21}}

====''Shattered Glass''====
[[File:Coalescence FallenSunstormAlphaTrion.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.66|Their adventures were recorded in Realityripple Comics.]]
One version of the Fallen from an unknown universe found himself on the brink of defeat at the hands of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|the last descendant]] of [[Dynasty of Primes|his brothers]]. Desperately fleeing through a seam in reality, he miscalculated and ended up in [[Primax -408.24 Epsilon|an unconventional negative polarity universe]]. In this universe, rather than being constantly on fire, the Fallen was now constantly freezing and risked becoming immobile as ice constantly built up from within him. He soon attracted a devoted servant, [[Sunstorm (Universe)|Sunstorm]], who used his heat-generating abilities to keep him warm. Also gaining [[Cybaxx (SG)|Cybaxx]]'s allegiance, the Fallen sought to create a dimensional gateway that would allow him to enter and conquer other negative-polarity universes. Cybaxx's followers were tasked with retrieving components to complete this gateway.

The Fallen was soon confronted by a number of Decepticons, Autobots, and humans seeking to halt his plans. After the captive [[Beta Maxx (RID)|Beta Maxx]] was freed, he rallied the others against the Fallen, who was somewhat deflated to learn that no one had ever heard of him in this universe. With Sunstorm taxing himself beyond limits to keep the Fallen defrosted, the ancient Prime was set upon by a ferocious [[Alpha Trion#Shattered Glass|mechanical lion]] commanded by Beta Maxx. Noticing the Fallen's reliance on Sunstorm to keep him mobile, [[Sephie Beller|Emulator]] knocked Sunstorm out with her powers, hobbling the ancient Prime. The frozen Fallen was helpless to stop himself as he was sucked into the now-active dimensional gateway. He found himself in a positive-polarity universe and quickly defrosted, only to realize that he was now trapped in an empty, desolate [[void]]. To his horror, the Fallen beheld the [[Unicron|only other living thing]] within the void, which began approaching him with a ravenous hunger. {{storylink|Coalescence}}
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===''Animated'' cartoon===
[[Kup (Animated)|Kup]] sardonically compared [[Rodimus Prime (Animated)|Hot Rod]]'s paint job to the Fallen's. {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}}

===Aligned continuity family===
====''The Covenant of Primus''====
[[File:MegatronusPrime.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|To have a helmet as good as this will cost you your soul... and also ten cents.]]
Megatronus was the twelfth Prime created by Primus to defeat [[Unicron]]. Rightfully proud of his power and unwaveringly loyal to his creator [[Primus]], he thought of himself as a warrior first and foremost, but his dark powers and conflicted nature meant that he was rarely at peace with himself. His artifact of power—the deadly [[Requiem Blaster (Thirteen)|Requiem Blaster]]—used stellar fusion as an energy conduit, exponentially increasing his already destructive powers. Viewing himself as an outsider, he frequently butted heads with the warrior of light [[Prima]], to the point where even his closest allies among the Thirteen viewed him as an unpredictable and unstable presence. In spite of this, he struck up a close friendship with Solus Prime, which eventually blossomed into a mutual romance. Not even Solus Prime's comforting presence could rein in Megatronus's chaotic tendencies; his private insecurities and hidden fears continued to fester, and soon gave way to something darker.

The thirteen newly created Primes soon began experimenting with their powers and strategizing for the upcoming conflict. Megatronus considered himself a warrior and trained alongside Vector Prime, Prima, [[Onyx Prime]], and [[Amalgamous Prime|Amalgamous]]. Megatronus, having the closest connection to Unicron, offered advice to Solus Prime on how to create the best weapons to defeat the chaos-bringer. Among their collaborative efforts were [[Dark Energon skin]]s, which would protect the Primes from the toxic [[Dark Energon]]. Megatronus eventually requested that a blaster be made for him by Solus Prime. She reluctantly agreed, and the Requiem Blaster was forged. Solus had doubts about the weapon, but her deep faith in Megatronus was what allowed her to trust him with the Blaster.

[[File:COP-Megatronusshootssolus.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|left|"How could this happen? We started out like Romeo and Juliet but it ended up in tragedy!"]]
When the fight against Unicron came, Megatronus fought alongside his siblings, and was ultimately triumphant. However, some of Unicron's darkness had rubbed off on all of them; a fact that Megatronus strangely appeared to revel in. In the era of peace and rebuilding that followed, Megatronus worked alongside [[Liege Maximo]], [[Micronus Prime]], and Amalgmous Prime, refining [[Energon]] for future use. He slowly befriended more of the Thirteen, although his love for Solus Prime never faded.

Unfortunately, this period of peace was not to last. Megatronus and Solus Prime were both being manipulated by Liege Maximo, who managed to drive a schism between the two lovers. Megatronus confronted Solus Prime over a newly created suit of armor intended for Maximo's "farm". Their disagreement eventually grew into a full-fledged fight after Megatronus killed her pet, which had secretly been recording Solus Prime's actions. In the chaos, Megatronus fired the Requiem Blaster without thinking, fatally wounding Solus Prime. Before Solus passed away, however, she professed her love for him.

Megatronus hid himself away in the untamed regions of Cybertron, until the surviving Primes discovered him. Megatronus confessed his crime, but also accused Maximo of setting up the whole plot, and aimed to kill him once and for all. The accusations flew quickly, and before long the argument descended into a free-for-all. In the aftermath, Liege Maximo was apparently blown apart by a shot from the Requiem Blaster, although [[Alpha Trion]] could not identify just who had fired the weapon. Along with the surviving Primes, a repentant Megatronus attended Solus's funeral. Renaming himself "the Fallen", he donned Solus Prime's suit of armor and went into exile in space, never to be seen again.

Eons later, a young gladiator and social rhetorician named [[Megatron (WFC)|D-16]] took inspiration from ancient folk tales, renaming himself "Megatronus". {{storylink|Transformers: The Covenant of Primus|The Covenant of Primus}}

====Aligned novels====
Megatronus conceived the idea of the [[Requiem Blaster (Thirteen)|Requiem Blaster]], a weapon so powerful that it dwarfed all other weapons in existence. With great reluctance, Solus Prime agreed to forge the weapon for Megatronus, and even then only after Megatronus convinced other members of the Thirteen to petition her on his behalf as well. Even after the weapon was completed, Solus Prime showed great reluctance in allowing it to remain in existence. After demonstrating its awesome power to the Thirteen, she asked for a vote as to whether the Requiem Blaster should be destroyed. Megatronus led the group who voted in favor of retaining the Blaster, and they won by the slimmest of margins, 7-to-6.

At some later date, Megatronus killed Solus Prime in a fit of rage, and became the Fallen, forever more. The reason for the murder is not fully known at this point, although Solus did favor [[Nexus Prime]] over others in the Thirteen, a fact that had stirred jealousy in Megatronus in the past. Though a terrible thing, Vector Prime considered the Fallen lashing out in a moment of anger forgivable over Liege Maximo's active plotting. {{storylink|Transformers: Exiles|Exiles}}

Megatron, who took his name to inspire fear, took a favorable view of the Fallen, considering him the one member of the Thirteen who refused to bow down to the others, and the only Prime who sought his own destiny. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}

====''Prime'' cartoon====
[[File:OneShallRise1-WellofAllSparks.jpg|right|thumb|Dum de dum, not thinking about demons...]]
According to legend, at the beginning of time, Unicron and Primus battled each other for eons, with neither side remaining victorious for long. Until, that is, Primus created the [[Thirteen]]. These Thirteen defeated Unicron and cast him into space. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}} At some point statues of Megatronus and his brothers were made. They were placed in the chamber of the High Council. A [[Megatron (WFC)|gladiator]] would also name himself after Megatronus before shortening his name to simply "Megatron". {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}

When [[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]] proclaimed to Optimus Prime that he wished to change sides, [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] sarcastically claimed that he had been [[Cybertronian sport#Lobbing|lobbing]] with the Fallen. {{storylink|Partners (Prime)|Partners}}

====2015 ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon====
{{voiceactor|[[Gil Gerard]] (English), [[Fumihiko Tachiki]] (Japanese)|[[Klaus Lochthove]] (German), [[Salvador Reyes]] (Latin American-Spanish), [[Martin Spinhayer]] (French), [[Ferenc Borbiczki]] (Hungarian), [[Antônio Moreno]] (Brazilian Portuguese, first voice), [[Vanderlan Mendes]] (Brazilian Portuguese, "[[Battlegrounds, Part 2]]" only), [[Janusz German]] (Polish), [[Yeong-jun Si]] (Korean, Tooniverse dub))}}

[[file:RID-phantommegatronus.jpg|thumb|left|upright=.7|"You will bow down before me, Jor-El!"]]
In the distant past, Megatronus killed Solus Prime. {{storylink|Battlegrounds, Part 2}} He was eventually imprisoned in another dimension, and held both [[Earth]] and Cybertron responsible for his defeat. {{storylink|Battlegrounds, Part 1}} He maintained a degree of agency over the events in this world, and he was able to influence events so that the prison ship ''[[Alchemor (RID)|Alchemor]]'' crash-landed on Earth, releasing its cargo of [[Decepticon]] convicts in the process. From there, Megatronus bided his time. Eventually, he contacted the Decepticon revolutionary [[Steeljaw (RID)|Steeljaw]], who had just suffered a humiliating rout at the hands of [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]]'s [[Autobot]]s. Introducing himself as "the first Decepticon", Megatronus struck a bargain with Steeljaw: if Steeljaw helped free him from his prison, Megatronus would let Steeljaw and his gang have the Earth. Steeljaw reluctantly agreed. {{storylink|Lockout}}

[[File:Battlegrounds2-Megatronus.jpg|thumb]]
Megatronus interrupted Steeljaw while the latter was scheming, demanding to know if they had made progress on the device that would allow him to escape. Steeljaw retorted that he needed more Decepticons to help him with the task, but Megatronus was less than moved, using his telekinetic powers to make [[Clampdown (RID)|Clampdown]] pull on his arm hard until Steeljaw capitulated. Megatronus informed his new servant that the device would require a mass of sufficient metal to anchor the energies generated by his arrival- namely, the [[Crown City Colossus]]. Although the Autobots, accompanied with a reborn [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]], attempted to intervene, their efforts weren't enough to stop Steeljaw from activating the portal. A triumphant Megatronus materialized, ready to carry out his plan. {{storylink|Battlegrounds, Part 1}}

Megatronus moved to attack the weakened Autobots, but was intercepted by Optimus, and the two began dueling. Megatronus gained the upper hand and managed to slash at Optimus, knocking him into the water and temporarily taking him out of the fight. Megatronus retieved his fallen [[Spark fuser]] and activated it, intending to draw the remnants of [[Unicron]]'s anti-[[spark]] from the Earth's core and merge it with the AllSpark, destroying both Earth and Cybertron. When Steeljaw realized this, Megatronus retorted that he had never technically lied to him about his right to own Earth... or whatever would be left of it. Megatronus restrained the furious Steeljaw with his telekinesis and opened a rift in the sky.

[[File:RID-megatronustank.jpg|thumb|left|Megatronus deploys his dreaded drill-nipples.]]
Fighting Steeljaw distracted Megatronus long enough for Bumblebee to resuscitate Optimus, and the two Autobot leaders moved in to finish him off after Megatronus hurled Steeljaw away. While Optimus once again dueled with Megatronus, Bumblebee, [[Strongarm (RID)|Strongarm]], and [[Sideswipe (RID 2015)|Sideswipe]] used their [[Decepticon Hunter]]s to power themselves up. Optimus managed to shatter Megatronus's Spark fuser, closing the rift and ruining his plan. Furious, Megatronus redoubled his attack. [[Drift (RID)|Drift]] helped to drop part of the Colossus on Megatronus. The weight of the statue was enough that Bumblebee's team could blast him with a sustained burst of energy, disintegrating his body and seemingly destroying him, though Bumblebee questioned if he truly was destroyed. {{storylink|Battlegrounds, Part 2}}

====IDW ''Robots in Disguise'' comic====
In later happier times, Bumblebee recalled the events of their battle against Megatronus. {{storylink|Robots in Disguise issue 5|Robots in Disguise #5}}

====''Adventure'' toy bios====
On the moment of Megatronus's defeat at the hands of Bumblebee's team, an evil presence emanated from his wounds and resonated with [[Nemesis Prime (RID)|Nemesis Prime]], powering him up into a new form. {{storylink|Nemesis Prime (RID)#TAV56|Nemesis Prime bio}}
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===''Kre-O'' online comic===
[[File:Kreo fallen skybyte.JPG|thumb]]
When [[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]] attacked [[Metroplex (G1)|Autobot City]], the Fallen stood next to [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Gelshark]]. {{storylink|Behemoth Combination! But They're Cute? The Predacon Unit}}

===Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====Train Wars====
[[File:TrainWars TheFallen.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.5|The aftermath of when Queen Metallia claimed his Sun.]]
The Fallen staged an attack on Cybertron to steal [[Vector Sigma]], smashing his way through all Autobot resistance. The mega-computer managed to wrest itself free of the ancient villain's grip long enough to transform into its "[[Primus|Oracle]]" robot mode and lend its power to [[Overdrive]], who then used his powered-up [[Quantum Dial]] to bring forth reinforcements from time itself. The Fallen responded by summoning up troops of his own, who [[combiner|combined]] with him. {{storylink|Train Wars}} In his new combiner mode, the Fallen laid waste to the Autobots' multiversal reinforcements, impaling them on energy-blades. Recovering Vector Sigma, he began to integrate the computer into his body, but was fortunately distracted by [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel Witwicky]] long enough for [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] to arrive with more reinforcements, made up of all kinds of train Transformers. Daniel and his partner [[Shouki]] blasted Vector Sigma free, and [[Shūta Gō]] and [[Goshooter]] then ''kicked'' the computer like a soccer ball, straight into The Fallen's face. The dazed demi-god found himself bound in a [[Trainbot Omni-Car Joint|living chain made up of all the interlinked train Transformers]], leaving him immobilized and open for one final attack. Using the power of Vector Sigma, Shouki unlocked a new transformation, becoming the gigantic "Train Bazooka" weapon, which Shuta then fired at the Fallen, obliterating him. {{storylink|Train Wars 2}}

====''Legends'' comic====
[[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] cheered on the Fallen in the battle against the opposition. {{storylink|The Road to Legends' Revival Chapter 4: LG-EX Big Powered Prologue Part One|LG-EX Big Powered Prologue Part One}}
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===2005 IDW continuity===
{{first|[[The Crucible|''Robots in Disguise'' #34]] (mentioned), [[Heavy|''Till All Are One'' #9]] (depicted)}}
[[File:TheFirstWhoWasNamed-MegatronusOrigins.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|"[[Darth Vader|What is thy bidding, my master?]]"]]
Twelve million years ago, in the primitive age that followed the departure of the [[Knights of Cybertron]], the 'bot who would become "Megatronus" was a humble nomad who wandered the deserts of prehistoric Cybertron alongside the shepherd [[Onyx Prime|Onyx]] and his flock of beasts. One day, the flock came across a badly damaged Transformer in the wastes—unbeknownst to any of them, this was [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Shockwave]], who had been cast backwards in time following the destruction of his [[chronal drive]].

Having recognized the figures for who they would become, Shockwave slew Onyx without a moment's hesitation, sending his followers fleeing... all of them, that is, except one of Onyx's compatriots. Realizing that he could use his understanding of Cybertron's past to set the planet's history along the preordained course that he knew it must follow, Shockwave dubbed Onyx's terrified compatriot "Megatronus," naming him after [[Megatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|the Decepticon leader that would one day arise]]. Fashioning a new body for himself from Onyx's remains, Shockwave thus became "Onyx"; knowing from history that Megatronus's conquests would lead to the eventual unification of Cybertron, "Onyx Prime" trained Megatronus in the ways of war and deliberately inspired him to build an empire of his own.

His tutelage complete, Shockwave set Megatronus on the lands to the west, and Shockwave's pupil soon established a kingdom that became known as the "[[Darklands]]". As his power and influence grew over the course of his campaigns, Megatronus became a feared warrior and tyrant, and took to calling himself "The First Who Was Named." {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

[[File:OriginMyths-Megatronuskillspeople.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|"[[Megatron (Movie)|You still fight for the '''weak!''' That is why you '''lose!'''"]]]]
Late into his conquests, Megatronus marched on neighboring [[Protihex|Protohex]] and easily annexed it into the Darklands, overthrowing its ruler [[Septimus Prime]] and murdering his [[Supplicants of Arrius]]. There, he recruited the gladiator twins [[Arcee (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Arcee]] and [[Galvatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Galvatron]], who proved their loyalty to him by slaughtering their old master. The pair thus became the vanguards of the army as Megatronus continued their eastward advance, conquering the [[Forgotten Plains]], deposing [[Liege Maximo]], and giving them the opportunity to attack the humble village that would one day become the [[Crystal City]]. Unbeknownst to Megatronus, "Onyx Prime" and Liege Maximo had arrived beforehand and galvanized the local tribes into allying with his army of beasts to battle Megatronus—deliberately providing the necessary impetus that would unite the scattered tribes of Cybertron into a single civilization. Megatronus fought on the front lines before three [[Titan (group)|Titans]], drawn to the sounds of battle, arose from the ground. Megatronus paused to look, giving Onyx the opening to fight his way through Megatronus's forces, meet with his old friend, and convince him to stand down. The two armies quickly ratified a proper truce, and Megatronus and his warriors joined the alliance of [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]s. {{storylink|Origin Myths}}

In the era that followed, the seven Primes were joined by five more, giving rise to the [[Thirteen]], who ruled over the [[Thirteen Tribes]]. Many of the Primes had grown arrogant, however, and began spreading rumors that only a Prime could kill another Prime so as to maintain their superiority over their followers. {{storylink|The Crucible}} At Onyx's urging, [[Prima]] began a program of interstellar expansion; aiming to spread [[Pax Cybertronia]] across the galaxy, he sent Megatronus, Onyx, Alpha Trion, [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], and the [[Guardian robot|Omega Sentinels]] to lead an extraplanetary colonization mission to neighboring [[Antilla]], claiming that their deeds would spread the "enlightenment" of Cybertronian civilization to other worlds. The Cybertronian colonization force quickly encountered severe resistance from the Antillans; the devastating Antillan/Cybertronian war would end when an [[Unicron's creator|Antillan scientist]] deployed a [[Talisman (G1)|doomsday weapon]] that scoured all life on the planet, and the fallout from the war would ensure that the rest of the universe would come to fear the destructive power of the Transformers. {{storylink|Our Finest}} {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

[[File:TheFirstWhoWasNamed-MegatronusKillsSolus.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|"You're with '''HIM!!!''' You brought him here to kill me!"]]
Prima was enraged to learn that their benevolent mission had failed and blamed Megatronus for the disaster; when an insulted Megatronus was subsequently approached by Liege Maximo, the manipulative Prime stoked Megatronus's resentment and eventually brokered a secret alliance, a sequence of events that had been deliberately orchestrated by Shockwave so as to bring about the fall of the Primes as history had foretold. Megatronus and Liege Maximo sought to overthrow Prima, but in the ensuing struggle [[Solus Prime]] sacrificed her life to defend their leader, allowing Megatronus to run her through with her own [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|Star Saber]]. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}} Their conspiracy unveiled, the grand alliance between the Primes collapsed and their followers fell to fighting amongst one another, heralding the beginning of the [[First Cybertronian Civil War]]. {{storylink|Heavy}} Megatronus subsequently fled the planet with, leaving his co-conspirator to be imprisoned aboard his own [[Titan (group)|Titan]], [[Vigilem]]. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

Without Megatronus leading his tribe, his empire collapsed and his followers went their own ways; Galvatron became notable for deserting his post in Megatronus's faltering army in order to wage a personal crusade against the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]]s of [[Nexus Prime]]. {{storylink|The Crucible}} {{storylink|Earthfall Part 3: The Mind Bomb|The Mind Bomb}} By the time that Galvatron hunted down and killed Nexus Prime, many of the remaining Primes had fled Cybertron entirely {{storylink|The Crucible}} and Megatronus had taken up residence on the barren world of [[Tsiehshi]], using its voltaic blooms to fuel his systems.

[[File:TheFirstWhoWasNamed-Megatronus.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.66|"I '''SMELL''' you, boy!"]]
Seeking to bring him to justice, Prima, Alpha Trion, and Onyx Prime left Cybertron to search for him aboard the Titan [[Emissary (IDW)|Emissary]]. They tracked him to Tsiehshi, where Prima and Onyx faced down the rogue Prime in a final duel; in the ensuing battle, Megatronus simply bisected Prima with the Star Saber. To ensure that the [[Matrix of Leadership]] in the sword's hilt would find its way to its [[Nova Prime|next owner]] when the time was right, however, Onyx coldly informed his student that his usefulness was at an end and murdered him, telling him that—thanks to the impending rise of Megatron—Cybertronians would, after a fashion, remember his name.

On returning to Alpha Trion, Onyx told the record-keeper the version of events that would find their way into the records of Cybertronian myth, lying that Prima had heroically slain Megatronus at the cost of his own life... a fabrication based on the stories that Shockwave had been told in his youth. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

[[File:OP18-MegatronusDead.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.5|"Who would you be without me, Prime?" "Time to find out."]]
Megatronus's name was stricken from the Cybertronian records for his crimes, and on both Cybertron and its colony worlds he was only remembered as "the Fallen". {{storylink|Conquerors Part 2: Lagrange|Lagrange}} When Alpha Trion recounted the story of the war's end to [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Optimus Prime]], he was unable to elaborate on why Megatronus and Megatron shared such similar names. {{storylink|The Crucible}} He was, however, able to point out that Shockwave had sent one of his [[Regenesis]] ores, [[Ore-8]], to Tsiehshi, where Megatronus had once resided; unbeknownst to Trion, this was because "Onyx Prime" had manipulated events so that his younger self would select this planet for the Regenesis project. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

On the eve of [[Earth]]'s official induction into the [[Council of Worlds]], Alpha Trion told Optimus Prime, [[Starscream (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Starscream]], and [[Pyra Magna (G1)|Pyra Magna]] the story of how Megatronus's conquests had first brought the Thirteen together all those years ago. Starscream questioned if he was represented in this story by Arcee or Megatronus, believing the latter to be a made-up name. {{storylink|Origin Myths}}

When "Onyx Prime" and his tribe of [[Maximal]]s invaded Cybertron some weeks later, [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], driven on by [[Scoop (G1)|Scoop]]'s religious fanaticism, reached an earth-shattering epiphany: the duplicitous, backstabbing Starscream was the reincarnation of Megatronus. Initially unsure of this revelation, Starscream went with it until Shockwave, unmasked as an impostor, revealed that he had orchestrated the decidedly mortal Starscream's disastrous rise and fall from power. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 4: The Hallowing|The Hallowing}}

===''Prime Wars Trilogy'' cartoons===
{{voiceactor|[[Mark Hamill]] (English)}}
[[File:POTP-Cartoon-Ep3-SolusDies.jpg|thumb|upright=1.2|left|"You will remain here in the Fire Nation."]]
Long ago, Megatronus was hailed as a hero for his defeat of [[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]] using the [[Requiem Blaster (Thirteen)|Requiem Blaster]]. However, he and his lover [[Solus Prime]] clashed over what to do with the Blaster afterwards, as Megatronus wanted to keep it for his own rather than see it destroyed. {{storylink|The Swamp}} As the two fought, the weapon was accidentally discharged, killing Solus and leaving Megatronus to grieve. {{storylink|Without Warning}} The other Primes took back the Blaster from Megatronus, sealing it away, and he placed himself into exile until he could find a way to reunite with his deceased love. {{storylink|Athenaeum Sanctorum (episode)|Athenaeum Sanctorum}}

Many years later, Megatronus orchestrated the events of both the [[Combiner Wars (event)|Combiner Wars]] and [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]]'s resurrection from behind the scenes in an attempt to claim the [[Enigma of Combination]] and the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. To this end, he recruited [[Overlord (G1)|Overlord]] to his cause and guided him to the [[Matrix of Conquest|Matrix of Chaos]] within Unicron's remains, promising Overlord immense power after his plan had succeeded. [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] also joined the ranks of his acolytes after Overlord used the Matrix of Chaos to turn him into Rodimus Cron. {{storylink|Volcanicus (episode)|Volcanicus}} After Trypticon's defeat, [[Victorion]] attempted to claim the Enigma and Matrix, but Megatronus surrounded them with a fiery aura, destroying part of Victorion's [[Dust Up|arm]]. He appeared before the other Transformers, warning them that their time had come to an end. [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] attempted to distract Megatronus with an angry outburst, giving [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] a chance to surprise attack him, but Megatronus brushed Maximus aside and killed Optimus. With no one else daring to challenge him, Megatronus took the two relics and departed to complete his plans. {{storylink|All Things Must Pass}}

[[File:TR-Ep10-All-Things-Must-Pass-Fallen-appears.jpg|thumb|upright=1.2|"Even with all the power in the world, you are still weak."]]
Determined to reunite with Solus, Megatronus turned his sights towards the missing Requiem Blaster. Unsure where it might have been hidden, he began searching its most likely hiding places, burning them to the ground when left empty-handed. {{storylink|The Swamp}} In the [[Well of All Sparks|Well of Sparks]], he began gathering the sparks of Overlord's and Rodimus Cron's victims and installed the Enigma and Matrix into an device which, when combined with the Blaster, would be capable of ripping the spark from every Transformer. {{storylink|Without Warning}} Taking notice of the Blaster being fired, Megatronus rushed to the [[Athenaeum Sanctorum]], where he revealed his plan. After clashing with Megatron, [[Optimus Primal (BW)|Optimus Primal]] and a Unicron-possessed Rodimus, he grabbed the Blaster and took off to put his plan into motion. {{storylink|Consequences}}

[[File:POTP-Cartoon-Ep7-FlameOn.jpg|thumb|upright=1.2|left|"It's time for this world to end in fire, and for a new world to be born from the ashes."]]
Megatronus returned to the [[Well of All Sparks|Well of Sparks]] and installed the Blaster, activating his doomsday weapon. The machine began to drain everyone's sparks as planned, causing Solus to manifest, but they were interrupted by the arrival of Megatron and his team. Refusing to lose, Megatronus shot down Windblade, but was restrained by Grimlock and Optimus Primal. However, the sight of his nearly-resurrected lover gave him the strength to break free, and he burned all the others except Megatron, who moved to protect them. Before he could finish them off, their battle was interrupted by the unexpected arrival of Rodimus Cron, now totally under Unicron's control {{storylink|Collision Course}} and determined to destroy Megatronus and Solus for being part of [[Primus]]'s Thirteen, along with the Matrix. Megatronus battled against Unicron while repeatedly having to divert his attention towards the others attacking his device. Temporarily incapacitating Unicron, Megatronus attacked the others despite Solus's pleas for him to stop, but was unable to prevent them from releasing the relics as the Matrix transformed Primal into Optimal Optimus. While Unicron attacked the new Prime, Megatronus made a grab for the Enigma and Blaster, only to be restrained by the other heroes. {{storylink|Megatronus Unleashed}} He managed to overtake them and grab the Blaster, seeking vengeance for the failure of his plans, but was caught off guard when new arrival [[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]] landed on him from above. The two briefly battled before Megatronus gained the upper hand and ripped off Predaking's head, and attempted to stop Megatron from destroying Solus. His lover, however, suddenly grew in size and grabbed him. Despite his pleas that his love for her was everlasting, she rebuked him and dragged him into the Well, finally killing him. {{storylink|Saga's End}}
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===''Power of the Primes'' marketing material===
Megatronus's [[Spark]] passed into the possession of one of the twelve [[Prime Master]]s; hidden within a suit of decoy armor, they safeguarded the abilities of the Primes until the present day. By uniting with a larger Transformer, the Prime Master could channel the powers of Megatronus's Spark and grant them unique abilities that varied with each new partner. {{storylink|The Fallen/toys#Generations|''Power of the Primes'' Bomb-Burst / Megatronus online bio}}
{{note|For a list of every permutation of Megatronus's abilities, see [[Prime Master/Combinations|this link]].}}

===''Cyberverse'' cartoon===
Megatronus was one of the [[Thirteen]], {{storylink|Dweller In The Depths (Cyberverse)|Dweller In The Depths}} {{storylink|Silent Strike}} {{storylink|The Other One}} Cybertronians being known to swear by his name in times of shock. {{storylink|The Extinction Event}} {{storylink|The Immobilizers}}

After gaining control of the AllSpark, [[Starscream (Cyberverse)|Starscream]] believed he had pulled Megatronus's spark back to the world of the living and implanted it into one of his "[[scraplet|children]]", though some questioned the legitimacy of his claims. {{storylink|Parley}}
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===2019 IDW continuity===
[[File:EndOfTime-Thirteen.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.66|A whole new canon and I ONLY GET A FRELLING ''CAMEO''?!]]
Megatronus was remembered as one of the Thirteen, described by [[Termagax]] as avatars of the life pattern that infused Cybertron itself. {{storylink|End of Time}}

===Energon Universe===
When [[human]]s began to attack [[Optimus Prime (G1)#Energon Universe|Optimus Prime]] even after he helped them, [[Skywarp (G1)#Energon Universe|Skywarp]] swore "by the soul of the Fallen", noting that humanity was stupid in addition to weak. Just like Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 3|Transformers #3}}

===''One'' film===
[[File:TransformersOne-Megatronushologram.jpg|left|upright=1.66|thumb|Remember me as I was: not on fire.]]
A member of the [[Thirteen|Primes]], Megatronus Prime was the strongest and largest of them all. He and the other Primes participated in the war against the [[Quintesson]]s. At a critical point in the war, the Primes, including Megatronus, moved to intercept a Quintesson high command meeting following a report from [[Sentinel Prime (One)|Sentinel]], unaware that the aide had led them into a trap to be ambushed. Megatronus fought bravely against the Quintesson horde alongside his siblings, almost emerging victorious until Sentinel revealed his treachery and killed several of the Primes himself. Overpowered and subdued by his enemies, Megatronus was personally beheaded by a grandstanding Sentinel, who took Megatronus's [[transformation cog (biology)|transformation cog]] for himself after failing to obtain the [[Matrix of Leadership]].

Megatronus was widely known as a heroic figure after his death, and merchandise was made of him including [[sticker]]s of various rarity. The miner [[Megatron (One)|D-16]] idolized Megatronus the most out of all the Primes for his mighty power, eagerly accepting when his friend [[Optimus Prime (One)|Orion Pax]] gave him a rare sticker based on Megatronus's face. D-16 proudly wore the sticker on his shoulder. However, it continued to sustain damage as he got involved in a mining accident, the [[Iacon 5000]], and a dangerous adventure to the surface alongside Orion, [[Bumblebee (One)|B-127]], and [[Elita-1 (One)|Elita-1]]. When D-16 was captured and taken to Sentinel's tower, the false Prime mocked him for his hero worship, revealing his possession of Megatronus's cog to D-16 and painfully scoring a crude rendition of Megatronus's face into the captive miner's chest. The sticker was destroyed in the process. After being freed by a coordinated assault by Orion, Elita, and the [[High Guard]], D-16 killed the false Prime and ripped the cog from Sentinel's chest, installing it into his own and discarding the one he had previously received from [[Alpha Trion]]. As he did so, he renamed himself "Megatron" after his hero and idol. This powerful cog granted Megatron new upgrades such as a triple-barrel rapid-fire [[fusion cannon]], an arm-mounted [[machine gun]] on his left arm, and additional armor. A vision of Megatronus appeared among his fellow Primes to a heavily damaged [[Optimus Prime (One)|Orion Pax]] as he fell into Cybertron's core, who was chosen by Primus to carry the Matrix and would be reborn as Optimus Prime.

Later, after being exiled from [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] by the newly christened Optimus Prime, Megatron fashioned a new [[insignia]] based on Megatronus Prime's face and branded it onto himself and his followers, officially forming the [[Decepticon]]s. {{storylink|Transformers One (film)|One}}
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==Games==
===''Transformers: Battle for the Matrix''===
{{Note|Battle for the Matrix is a simplified retelling of the events of ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]''. It can be played from the perspective of either Bumblebee or Optimus Prime. The final battle is against Megatron and the Fallen at the [[Star Harvester]].}}
[[File:The Fallen battleforthematrix.jpg|thumb|Behind you!]]
The Fallen tried to defend the Sun Harvester from some Autobot attackers. {{storylink|Transformers: Battle for the Matrix}}
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===''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' - The Game===
{{voiceactor|[[James Arnold Taylor]] (English)|[[Sylvain Lemarié]] (French), [[Luis Fernando Ríos]] (Castilian Spanish), [[Oliviero Corbetta]] (Italian), [[Andreas Gröber]] (German)}}
[[File:ROTF 360PS3PC TheFallen.jpg|thumb|I shall light this holy ring, release its cleansing flame, and burn a path into the divine beyond!!! ...Wait, what game is this again?]]

====Xbox 360/PS3/PC====
=====Decepticon campaign=====
With Optimus Prime seemingly defeated, the Fallen and the Decepticons journeyed to Egypt, where he uncovered the Star Harvester from inside the Great Pyramid of Giza and commenced his plans to destroy the Sun. However, the last of the Primes had survived his battle with Megatron and now revealed to the enraged Decepticon leader that the Fallen had betrayed him. the Fallen's promise to Megatron that he would make his student a Prime would never be fulfilled, as Primes were born, not made. Megatron demanded what he had been promised, but the Fallen, disgusted with the creature that he no longer needed, attacked. Righteous indignation fueled Megatron through this battle, and ultimately, he ended the Fallen's mastery over the Decepticons by impaling him through his head and letting the corpse fall into the depths of the Star Harvester. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)}}

=====Autobot campaign=====
Optimus Prime had survived his battle with Megatron and merged with the parts of Jetfire, and now this new, powered-up form faced the might of the Fallen at the Great Pyramid. Optimus's ancestor mocked this young upstart who dared to face his elder, telekinetically throwing debris at the Autobot, summoning great bursts of energy from the ground, and unleashing an army of Decepticon drones. However, Optimus Prime's new armour more than enabled him to survive this onslaught, and as he rained energy slugs into the Fallen, the ancient Cybertronian called out to Megatron for help, but to no avail, for his student had since learned of the Fallen's treachery. Optimus ended the Fallen's reign of terror by impaling him through his head and letting the corpse fall into the depths of the Star Harvester. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)}}

====PSP====
{{charstubgame|{{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (PSP)}}}}
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===''Transformers Autobots''/''Decepticons''===
====''Autobots''====
The Fallen was the true leader of the Decepticons, orchestrating Megatron's resurrection. While the new recruit fought Megatron, the Fallen was defeated by Optimus Prime and Jetfire.

====''Decepticons''====
The Fallen was still the true leader of the Decepticons despite Starscream having taken ''de facto'' command after Megatron's death. When the new recruit arrived, Grindor and Sideways made no bones to him about how the Fallen was really the one calling the shots, and that they'd soon get Megatron back. The recruit would be introduced to the Fallen during the hunt for the Matrix and the Harvester. Things came to a head in a battle in Egypt, where the recruit presented the Matrix to the Fallen. The overlord was pleased by his performance and code of loyalty, complaining that other Decepticons didn't share it while throwing a big fat side glance at his other henchmen present. This caused Starscream to tease Megatron that his job as Decepticon leader was in jeopardy.

The Fallen sent the recruit to wipe out most of the remaining Autobots to pave the way for their final plan in what was likely a final test for his new position, and sure enough, the recruit succeeded and even killed Optimus Prime. Megatron was horrified since he was supposed to be the one to kill Optimus, and the Fallen snarked that he obviously didn't. Noting that his apprentice had been outperformed by a Decepticon who was merely a lowly foot soldier, the Fallen announced some role changes: the recruit would now replace Megatron as Decepticon leader and his apprentice, with Megatron now being just a lowly foot soldier in his place. The Fallen congratulated the recruit, and with his new apprentice by his side, activated the Harvester, claimed the resultant Energon, and prepared to engage in a universe-wide campaign of conquest, now that Earth, humanity, and the Autobots had been destroyed. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen: Autobots/Decepticons|Revenge of the Fallen: Autobots/Decepticons}}

===''Revenge of the Fallen'' mobile game===
The Fallen sent [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and some Decepticon forces to [[Shanghai]] to retrieve a fragment of the [[AllSpark]]. Starscream returned successful, and the Fallen sent him to NEST HQ as a diversion. the Fallen himself used the AllSpark shard to resurrect [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] as part of the ongoing plan to gain possession of the [[Matrix of Leadership]] so they could reactivate the "[[Star Harvester|Great Machine]]". The Fallen sent Megatron to [[Egypt]], but when the other Decepticons fell, he himself put in an appearance. the Fallen was confident that [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] had worn himself out fighting Megatron, however Optimus channeled the power of the Matrix into a single blast, destroying the Fallen. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Glu)}}

====Wii/PS2====
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===''Robots in Disguise'' mobile game===
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Megatronus was among the many Decepticons available to repel an Insecticon invasion. {{storylink|Transformers: Robots in Disguise (mobile game)|Robots in Disguise}}

===''Splatoon''===
[[Squid Sisters|Marie]] considered Megatronus among the coolest of the Decepticons. {{storylink|Splatoon}}

===''Transformers: Forged to Fight''===
[[File:ForgedToFight-Megatronus.jpg|thumb|Megatronus after hitting the jackpot through watching ''Sushi Girl''.]]
One of the original Thirteen Primes created by Primus to combat Unicron, Megatronus betrayed his fellow Primes in his quest for power, leading to his banishment.<ref>[https://transformersforgedtofight.com/bot-intel-report-megatronus/ Bot Intel Report - Megatronous]</ref> He returned in the present day on [[New Quintessa]] to trouble the Cybertronians marooned on the strange planet.

In an attempt by Megatronus to take the power of the dormant [[Necrotitan]], their sparks merged to become [[Necrotronus]]. {{storylink|Transformers: Forged to Fight}}

The heroic [[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]] of [[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|another universe]] invoked the name of the "noble Megatronus", who gave his life to protect the [[Solus Prime|Prime he loved]], when confronted by an evil Megatron. The heroic Megatron then accused his evil counterpart of besmirching Megatronus' good name. {{storylink|Shattered Bridges}}

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===''Transformers: Earth Wars''===
;'''Megatronus Core'''
[[File:Earth Wars Megatronus Core.jpg|thumb|upright=0.6]]

Megatronus's [[Prime Master#Transformers: Earth Wars|Prime Core]] (his "heart" as one of the primordial [[Thirteen|Thirteen Primes]]) fell to Earth under mysterious circumstances along with those of his siblings to become a hotly-contested resource in the [[Earth Wars (conflict)|Earth Wars]]. {{storylink|Power of the Primes (Earth Wars)|Power of the Primes}}

The Megatronus Core possessed [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]], [[Reformatting|reformatting]] him into Rodimus Unicronus. {{storylink|Transformers: Earth Wars|Rodimus Unicronus bio}} Inside of his mind, when Rodimus Prime was talking to Rodimus Unicronus, he wasn't sure if he was speaking to Unicron or Megatronus. {{storylink|Inferno & Rodimus Unicronus Saga#Rodimus Unicronus|Rodimus Unicronus story}}

{{chargamestub|{{storylink|Lost and Found (Earth Wars)|Lost and Found}} Rest of ''Power of the Primes'' storyline appearances}}

*'''Effect:''' You are enveloped in hellfire, constantly damaging nearby enemies for a percentage of your attack power.

[https://tfew.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4733780017183-Prime-Cores-Bot Megatronus Core at Transformers: Earth Wars Wiki]

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;'''Megatronus Prime'''
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===''Transformers Roleplaying Game''===
Megatronus was the youngest and most powerful member of the Thirteen. As the lord of entropy, he was destined to betray his siblings, earning him the title of the First Decepticon. His Requiem Blaster could tear reality itself, and his destructive powers caused early humans to venerate him as the war god {{w|Ares}}. {{storylink|Transformers One Sourcebook}}

==Toys==
{{main|The Fallen/toys}}

==Notes==
===Generation 1===
[[File:Fallenpatlee.jpg|thumb|upright=0.85|I'm The Fallen, and I can't get up!]]
*The Fallen was created by [[Simon Furman]] for [[Dreamwave Productions]]' ''[[Transformers: War Within: The Dark Ages|War Within: The Dark Ages]]'' comic book. Furman used him to recycle some of the plans he had for the [[Last Autobot]] in the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|original Marvel comic]], but which he was unable to use as a result of the comic's cancellation.<ref>[http://www.camphortree.net/tf/tidbits/otfcc2004.txt OTFCC 2004 convention report]</ref>
*The Fallen design was created by [[Pat Lee]], his first (and only) original Transformers character. The early design concept differed incredibly from the final product, noticeably lacking the Fallen's characteristic mouthplate. He was envisioned as a medieval, ancient-looking Transformer who glowed like a furnace, but he was not depicted as being perpetually on fire until [[Andrew Wildman]] penciled his appearances in ''The Dark Ages'' and the colorists caught on. When questioned about him constantly being aflame, Furman responded that they went with it "because it looks cool".
*Lee designed [[:File:Thefallentank.jpg|a tank alternate mode for the Fallen]], which was shown in the profile series ''[[Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]''; it was never used in fiction.
*The Fallen can speak Spanish.<ref>Fanclub-exclusive Mini Mayhem strip, March 19, 2007</ref>
*The Fallen's appearance in the ''Train Wars'' comic is based on [[:File:TFGenerations2014 Rejected TheFallen.jpg|a mock-up]] created for a [[Fan polls#Generations Magazine Exclusive Character Popularity Vote|poll]] in ''[[Transformers Generations 2014 Vol. 1]]'', one of ten potential exclusives for Vol. 2. A redeco of ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' [[Onslaught (WFC)#Toys|Onslaught]], it would have featured the [[Ruination (FOC)#Toys|Ruination]] head in combiner mode, which would have been making its Japanese market debut. Ultimately, the Fallen only claimed 5% of the votes.<ref>[http://millionhero.sblo.jp/article/101898683.html Poll results at Hero-X]</ref>
* [[Jason Marnocha]] provided the scratch track recording voice for Megatronus in ''Prime Wars Trilogy'' before [[Mark Hamill]] was cast in the role.

===''Revenge of the Fallen''===
[[File:TheFallen-ROTFstaff.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Give him the stick! Don't give him the stick!]]
* Michael Bay attempted to hide the Fallen's involvement in ''Revenge of the Fallen'', going so far as to claim that statements made by Simon Furman at [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2008<ref>[http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17412 Simon Furman confirms the Fallen is a character in an interview with Comic Book Resources (Fallen details removed)]</ref> and [[Chris Mowry]] in an interview with MTV Splash Page <ref>[http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/07/28/exclusive-transformers-2-prequel-comic-gives-inside-scoop-on-2009-movie/ MTV Splash Page interviews Chris Mowry (Fallen details removed)]</ref> were part of a disinformation campaign, and that only a small number of people had seen the script.<ref>[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44729&postcount=2 A post made by Michael Bay on his forum]</ref> On August 5, 2008, after a fan posted on Michael Bay's forum pointing out that several IDW representatives had said they had the script, all references to the Fallen were removed from the aforementioned interviews, as well as any references to IDW Publishing having the script.
* Voice actor [[James Arnold Taylor]] was originally cast as the Fallen in the film version of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' (which led to him getting the same role in ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen: The Game]]''), but was replaced by [[Tony Todd]] in the final edit of the film, to his disappointment. [[Leonard Nimoy]] was also considered for the role, but did not get it on the basis Bay feared Nimoy would have been paid too little money.{{fact}}
* After nearly 15 years, the Fallen was finally made playable in the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' game, thanks to a prototype build of the game leaked. [https://youtu.be/6ga8JlV6-vk?si=PBRVyGNw2SDg22D2 He’s more polished than you think!]
* The Fallen's "Command Staff" (also known as the "[[Void Scepter]]"<ref>[http://www2.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/cybertronian-database.cfm#/characters/the-fallen The Fallen's bio at Hasbro.com]</ref>) seemed to be a later addition to the film, as the staff made no appearances in secondary fiction, and was not included with the Fallen's original toy releases. The [[The Fallen/toys#TF2010Voyager|later Voyager Class figure]] includes said staff, and the toy's hands were retooled to be able to hold it.
* [[Paul Ozzimo]] and [[Josh Nizzi]] designed Earth modes for the Fallen to take on in ''Revenge of the Fallen'', but he does not assume one in the finished film. Ozzimo clarified on his website he was to turn into an {{w|Aurora (aircraft)|Aurora}} reconnaissance aircraft, the alleged modern replacement for the [[Jetfire (Movie)|SR-71 Blackbird]].
* The Fallen was planned to be much larger in ''Revenge of the Fallen'': the novelization describes him as making Optimus look like an infant, and ''Defiance'' #4 depicts him as about the size of a pyramid. In the finished film, the Fallen is only slightly bigger than Optimus and Megatron, and ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe]]'' clarifies he is 42 feet tall.
* Michael Bay doesn't actually like The Fallen, calling him "kind of a (expletive) character".<ref>[http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2010-06-11-Transformers11_ST_N.htm?csp=usat.me USA Today, "Next 'Transformers' is due for a switch"]</ref>
* In early drafts of ''Revenge of the Fallen'', the Fallen doesn't appear in person until the climax, communicating with Megatron aboard the ''Nemesis'' via an interdimensional window. This led to the [[sarcophagus]] storyline in the comics, where only discovering the harvester's location would free him. When dropped from the film to give the character more screen time, it led to a massive plot hole in the comic storyline that was only resolved two years later by [[John Barber]] in ''[[Transformers: Convergence|Convergence]]''.
* The Fallen's design—at least in the early stages of development—appears to be heavily inspired by Egyptian {{w|pharaoh}}s and their attire, which is most noticeable on his [[The Fallen/toys#Voyager Class toys|original Voyager Class toy]] (which was based on early concept art), as it sports a [[Facial hair|goatee]] not unlike the long, fake metal goatees pharaohs like King {{w|Tutankhamun}} wore; as well as his spiky bearded parts somewhat resembling {{w|Nemes}}, which are the striped-cloth headdresses that pharaohs wore. Given both the film's central location being Egypt, and the Egyptian hieroglyph-styled packaging for the toyline, the inspiration makes sense.
** The aforementioned sarcophagus plotline from the IDW comics also adds another layer of Egyptian inspiration into the mix.
** The Fallen's face is also a highly stylized Decepticon [[insignia]] in both early concept art and the final CGI model. While it isn't as prominent a Decepticon insignia as [[Tarn (G1)|IDW Tarn]]'s mask is with the points and everything poking up off the top of his head, the design elements are still there, you just have to look a little harder to notice them.

===Other===
[[File:The Evil One-Goodbye Renegade.jpg|thumb|right|250px|He's a redeco of himself!]]
* The Evil One was originally a one-off character from the ''{{gb|Challenge of the GoBots (cartoon)|Challenge of the GoBots}}'' episode "{{gb|In Search of Ancient GoBonauts}}", where [[Cy-Kill (GoBots)|Cy-Kill]] was looking for the ancient villain, who'd hidden a weapon of great power underneath an ancient pyramid. The idea that the Evil One could be an alternate-universe equivalent of the Fallen was inspired by [https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=The_Fallen&oldid=685238 an edit] of this very page back in 2012, which noted the episode's coincidental similarities to ''Revenge of the Fallen''.<ref>[https://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/129168-out-of-printhard-to-find-media-mega-thread/page-9#entry3440904 Post by Verity Carlo on the Allspark Forums, 2017/02/12]</ref>
*"Megatronus Prime" occurs in the ''[[Transformers Vault]]'' book and the ''[[Transformers One (film)|Transformers One]]'' film. All other instances are "Megatronus".
*A post-[[Shroud]], presumably heroic, version of The Fallen was planned to appear in the original ending of ''[[Coalescence]]''.<ref>[https://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/135694-shattered-glass-coalescence-prose-story/?p=3409141 Post by NightViper on The Allspark Forums, 2016/12/26]</ref><ref>{{citesocial|quote=We saw *a* Megatronus Prime in Shattered Glass already. The Multiversal Singularity version. A Fallen born from the SG universe would have been part of the story pitched in 2016. The original concept for TFSS 5.0|link=https://x.com/JesseWittenrich/status/1843601511739236660|name=Jesse Wittenrich|site=Twitter|year=2024|month=10|day=08|(defunct=)}}</ref> One concept for this idea was to have him be referred to as "The Redeemed", in a similar vein to IDW's epithet for the positive-universe Thirteenth Prime, "The Arisen".<ref>{{citesocial|quote=If he was an individual SG Fallen, I was playing w/ "The Redeemed". But in both stories he's just a visitor, so still "Fallen"|link=https://x.com/JesseWittenrich/status/819617849098518528|name=Jesse Wittenrich|site=Twitter|year=2017|month=01|day=12|(defunct=)}}</ref>

===Foreign names===
====The Fallen====
*''Japanese:'' '''The Fallen''' (ザ・フォールン ''Za Fōrun'')
*''Mandarin:'' '''Duòluò Jīngāng''' (堕落金刚, "Corrupted Vajra")

====Megatronus====
*''Japanese:'' '''Megatronus''' (メガトロナス ''Megatoronasu'')
*''Mandarin:'' '''Zhèn Tiān Zūn''' (震天尊, "Majesty Shocking the Heaven")

==References==
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==External links==
{{GBwiki|Evil One}}

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Nexus Prime

2026-02-04T13:50:50Z

Alientraveller: /* Age of the Primes */ thought it was worth bringing up how it was revealed, as I understand Hasbro does not usually respond to leaks

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[[Image:NexusPrimeflankedbyotherPrimes.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Insert batteries where?!]]
One of the [[Thirteen|original Thirteen Primes]], the wild and unpredictable '''Nexus Prime''' is the first [[combiner]]. He is the bearer of the immensely consequential [[Artifacts of the Primes|artifact]] known as the [[Enigma of Combination]] and the lord of [[Rarified Energon]]—the stuff of [[spark]]s themselves—granting him a variety of mysterious powers above and beyond many of his siblings. Nexus' go-to problem solving method of scattering himself to the four winds has often proved the cause of, and solution to, all of his and his resultant sub-selves' problems. He also has a habit of hoarding the legendary blades forged by his sister [[Solus Prime]] whether they belong to him or not, considering himself the safest pair(s) of hands. How much these antics relate to his reputation as the prankster of the Thirteen is up for interpretation. His fragments include:

*[[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]] (A-10 Thunderbolt II, left leg)— a deep space explorer with the ability to project [[Force field|forcefields]]
*[[Landquake (Timelines)|Landquake]] (anti-aircraft tank, right arm)— a disaffected soldier with the power to forge [[Energon weapon|energon weapons]] unaided
*[[Breakaway (Classics)|Breakaway]] (fighter jet, left arm)— a mystical guardian with preternatural healing abilities
*[[Topspin (Classics)|Topspin]] (helicopter, right leg)— a credulous refugee with the power to manipulate sparks
*[[Heatwave (Timelines)|Heatwave]] (armored personnel carrier, torso)— a cheerful technician with ability to "speak" machinery to life

Unlike many of his descendants, Nexus Prime is highly mutable and not beholden to a single set of components. In [[Aligned continuity family|a different universe]], Nexus instead split himself into:

*[[Clocker (Prime)|Clocker]]— a [[Velocitron]]ian racer
*[[Mainspring]]— a Velocitronian mechanic
*[[Chaindrive]]— an Autobot soldier
*[[Pinion]]— a [[Junkion (species)|Junkion]] trader
*[[Cannonspring]]— a lost Cybertronian

Oh yeah, and he is responsible for [[Shroud|splintering]] himself and [[Multiversal singularity|his brethren]] across the [[Multiverse|multiverse]]. That was a pretty significant thing that happened.

He is sometimes, unfortunately, known as '''[[#Naming issues|Nexus Maximus]]'''.

==Fiction==
===Fun Publications===
When the Thirteen visited ancient Earth of some universal streams, Nexus Prime used a [[holomatter]] avatar which inspired the myth of the goddess Hera, trusted confidant of Zeus, who was [[Prima]]'s holomatter avatar. [[Vector Prime]] shared many fond memories with his siblings, including Nexus, and noted that there were universal streams where Nexus was known as Nexus [[Convoy (rank)|Convoy]].

Nexus Prime, Vector Prime, [[Alpha Trion]], and [[Solus Prime]] made the decision to split Nexus Prime into five pieces to conceal the location of the five fragments of Prima's [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|Star Saber]] sword, a weapon that could destroy star systems, from their evil brother [[The Fallen|Megatronus]]. Using the blade of the Star Saber, Nexus Prime was cut into five other robots: [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]], [[Landquake (Timelines)|Landquake]], [[Breakaway (Classics)|Breakaway]], [[Topspin (Classics)|Topspin]], and [[Heatwave (Timelines)|Heatwave]], who were subsequently scattered across the [[multiverse]] and lost to the ages. {{Storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}

But the skills of Nexus Prime are needed once again, and now that his components have been called together by Primus, he searches the multiverse for the components to the Star Saber sword, armed with his masterful control over all uses of [[energon]], and ability to manipulate [[spark]]s.

[[Image:Clubcombinercarving.jpg|200px|thumb|They drew his limbs arranged incorrectly!]]
The [[Caretaker]] told its components that Nexus Prime was "designated a [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]", like the other original thirteen. {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 6}}

When Landquake, Breakaway, Topspin, and Heatwave made an attempt to use their powers to revive the recently assassinated [[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]], they were transported—along with a revived Skyfall—to the presence of [[Primus]] in the "afterlife". He gave them a choice of living (or staying dead) as they were, or being reborn as what they were meant to be. After the gestalt members made their deliberations, Primus declared, "The choice is made. Arise, Nexus Prime," as they started the transformation. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 5}}

[[Image:OmegaDoomNexusPrimeGalvatron.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Behold the fingers my toy totally doesn't have!]]

Nexus Prime [[Reformatting|reformatted]] the dead Megatron into the powerful Galvatron, investing in him some of the power of the Thirteen. The two exited the Decepticon stronghold to counter [[Omega Doom]]'s offensive, but they were forced to split up when Doom launched a starkilling missile into Cybertron's sun. Though his Decepticon components protested leaving the battle, Nexus Prime knew saving this Cybertron's star system was of more immediate importance. Regardless, he was too late in stopping the missile, and its energies began to destroy the sun. Nexus began to concentrate.

Nexus returned to Cybertron triumphant, having used his own powers to negate those of the starkilling missile, and he made short work of Omega Doom, saving Galvatron in the nick of time. Though there was more on this Cybertron to do, such as finishing [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]] once and for all, Nexus Prime knew he had to depart this universe. After saying goodbye to [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]], he entered a portal with [[Aquarius (SG)|Aquarius]], trusting fate to bring him to the correct destination. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 6}}

Nexus Prime and Aquarius traveled from world to world, but without finding what Nexus Prime was looking for. Eventually, the pair arrived on [[Primax 509.28 Epsilon|one universe]]'s [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], where they were attacked by a group of smaller Decepticons who thought they had an easy mark. Though Nexus Prime was unwilling to use his more supernatural powers, lest he draw unwanted attention towards himself, he was still able to easily beat their attackers. As they left the group of dazed Decepticons behind, Nexus Prime and Aquarius wandered through a Cybertronian marketplace. Finally, Nexus Prime began to drop hints about what [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|mysterious artifact]] he was looking for; he hadn't yet clued Aquarius in. Ultimately, Nexus Prime spotted a shipping container with an [[Elite Guard]] symbol on it. This unlocked a memory in the ancient Transformer, allowing him to determine their next destination. He and Aquarius vanished through another portal to yet another dimension. {{storylink|The Coming Storm: Part 1}}

After several unspecified adventures, Aquarius ended up in Axiom Nexus and took charge of a shard of the Star Saber from a [[Chifumi Takahashi|courier]]. In exchange, he promised to help her get home. {{storylink|Transformers I.Q.#issue 48|Transformers I.Q. last issue review}} To their surprise, however, they ended up on the Cybertron of Aquarius's home reality. It soon became obvious that Nexus had transported them there in order to receive the [[Origin Matrix]], the fifth and final piece, from [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Ultra Mammoth]]. {{storylink|Transformers I.Q.#issue 54|Transformers I.Q. trivia bonus #12}} {{storylink|Falling into Place}}

[[File:AnotherLight-choppitychop.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.66|"...''Transformers: Prime'' will never make a dozen episodes about finding you."]]

While waiting for Nexus Prime's arrival, Ultra Mammoth confronted his negative counterpart [[Ultra Magnus (SG)|Ultra Magnus]], who was wielding the [[Terminus Blade]] on Earth. After the Origin Matrix inadvertently supercharged the Blade, Nexus Prime's components arrived in time to combine the Matrix with the other elements to reform the Star Saber. Prima's great sword severed the evil Magnus's arm, and Nexus Prime banished the insane Autobot to a dimension suitable for his temperament. With the Star Saber and Terminus Blade in hand, Nexus Prime set about undoing what damage he could from Magnus's abuse of the weapon. {{storylink|Restoration}}

In multidimensional space, Nexus Prime found he could not undo the destruction of universes already caused by the Terminus Blade. Aware that his actions would not be without consequences to himself, Nexus Prime brought the Saber and Blade together. He strengthened the existing walls between dimensions to prevent further inter-universe decay. He bolstered dying universes that had not yet succumbed to Ultra Magnus, hoping they might still survive. In the process, however, the strengthened walls could no longer support the fluidity of multiversal singularities. Nexus Prime felt himself and his fellow Thirteen splintering, existing as independent beings in each reality they manifested in, instead of thirteen singularities. {{storylink|Out of the One, Many}} In [[Primax -408.24 Epsilon|one universe]], Nexus Prime's individual components reconstituted themselves as a group of low-ranking Decepticons known as Heatwave, [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skytop]], [[Landquake (Timelines)|Landfall]], [[Breakaway (Classics)|Quakebreak]], and [[Topspin (Classics)|Spinaway]]. Although they retained their ability to combine, this "new" Nexus Prime was significantly less coordinated than his predecessor, and his components didn't believe the stories that they had once been some kind of multiversal guardian. {{storylink|Coalescence}}
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===Aligned continuity family===
====''The Covenant of Primus''====
[[Image:5NexusPrime.jpg|thumb|200px]]
Nexus Prime was the seventh member of the Thirteen created by Primus with the purpose of fighting against and defeating Unicron. As the first and greatest combiner, he could separate himself into multiple independent components and combine them at will. Nexus, like his siblings who were created between [[Prima]] and [[The Fallen|Megatronus]], was balanced between the personalities of Primus and Unicron.

Nexus was part of the '''Free Agents''', which included [[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]], [[Solus Prime]], and the [[Thirteenth Prime]]: capable of both direct battle and subtle attacks. As the Primes trained with each other, Solus created the [[Cyber Caliber]] for him, which could split into smaller swords. Nexus would follow Solus into the portal leading to Unicron, entering Unicron's body to harm him from within. All of Nexus' components struggled with the overpowering corruption of Unicron's Dark Energon, but the words of ''Thirteen'', "All Are One", would help him keep fighting. Eventually, Unicron was defeated and Nexus returned to Cybertron with his siblings.

As the [[Age of Primes]] began, Nexus devoted his time to his creative interests, having no interest in the politics of Prima's group. During the [[War of the Primes]], when the Primes came together to vote on whether [[Liege Maximo]]'s [[Farm]] should be shut down or not, Nexus voted with Prima to shut it down. Sometime later, Nexus would join Prima, [[Vector Prime]], [[Alpha Trion]], [[Micronus Prime]], and ''Thirteen'' in finding Megatronus after the death of Solus Prime. Nexus would take his Cyber Caliber when all the Primes visited the Farm, which led to infighting among the Primes.

Nexus Prime would survive the War of the Primes, but the memory of his existence would fade away into myth and legend. Several stellar cycles later, the five components of Nexus Prime -- [[Cannonspring]], [[Mainspring]], [[Pinion]], [[Clocker (Prime)|Clocker]], and [[Chaindrive]] -- would briefly reunite as Nexus Prime, giving [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] his sword. {{storylink|Transformers: The Covenant of Primus|The Covenant of Primus}}

====Aligned novels====
Known as the "Wizard of Forms", Nexus Prime was all about change and mutability. When standing alone, his body seemed to shift or be overlaid with ever-changing forms and combinations he might take. Powerful, proud, and frequently unpredictable even to those who knew him best, Nexus Prime was full of good humor and a bit of a prankster at times. He was the "mad experimenter" of the Thirteen and is fascinated by changing states of matter and the creation of new elements in solar forges. This shared affinity for creation led [[Solus Prime]], the "Maker" of the Thirteen, to have special feelings for Nexus, which in turn seemed to have earned him the enmity of [[The Fallen|Megatronus]] and [[Liege Maximo]].

Nexus Prime was last seen by Alpha Trion before the [[Age of Wrath]], taking custody of many of Solus Prime's creations, including the Cyber Caliber, the [[Chaos Edge]], the [[Blades of Time]], and the [[Omni Saber]].
The Omni Saber was a part of Nexus Prime's body, and he secreted the Cyber Caliber away inside his form as well before splitting himself into five component robots: Clocker, Mainspring, Chaindrive, Pinion, and Cannonspring.
Each component held a fraction of the Cyber Caliber within themselves and was also charged with guarding one of the Blades of Time. Only by assembling the Blades of Time and using them to open a gateway to the hollow [[Realm of the Primes|realm]] of Vector Prime could the Cyber Caliber be reassembled. The [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|Star Saber]] was believed to have been taken by Nexus Prime but was not in his possession during the [[Great Exodus]].

The sub-selves of Nexus Prime scattered throughout the colony worlds of Cybertron. They remained apart for so long that each forgot their true nature, and no longer recalled being part of Nexus Prime or the Thirteen. All but Cannonspring even forgot their duty to safeguard the Blades of Time and the Cyber Caliber. Clocker and Mainspring wound up on [[Velocitron]], where they remained slightly out of place as mechanics instead of the speed-driven racers who ruled the planet. Pinion ended up on [[Junkion (planet)|Junkion]], assimilating well into the culture (perhaps because the Junkion way of constantly reusing materials appealed to the subconscious preference of Nexus Prime for change). Chaindrive found himself on Cybertron, and eventually became part of the Autobot resistance movement alongside [[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]] and Alpha Trion after the Ark's departure. Cannonspring ended up in a crippled ship in Cybertron's deep orbit, until the prospector [[Axer (Prime)|Axer]] triggered some latent transwarp energy on board, transporting them both to Junkion. Cannonspring remained inert for over a million years inside his ship after it crashed.

Nexus Prime began to come together once more thanks to the Matrix, which directed Optimus Prime through space to the various colony worlds. As the Ark came to Velocitron, Optimus discovered two pieces of the Blades of Time and fatefully agreed to bring Clocker and Mainspring on the next leg of his journey when they asked. On Junkion, Prime encountered Pinion while recovering a third Blade, and the fourth was retrieved from Axer. Meanwhile, back on Cybertron, Alpha Trion and [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] concocted a method of sending a scout after Optimus Prime by keying residual Space Bridge energy to the signature of the Matrix. Instinctively, Alpha Trion decided Chaindrive was the proper choice, and he brought with him the fifth Blade. Once all five Blades and the other four components assembled on Junkion, the combined energy was enough to rekindle the inert Cannonspring, bringing him back to full functioning and allowing them to reassemble into Nexus Prime.

Displaying the ability to hold more weapons than an armory, Nexus Prime pulled forth both his Omni Saber and the Chaos Edge, and also passed the Cyber Caliber over to Optimus Prime. Although he refused to kill anyone, Nexus Prime essentially held off the Decepticons and the [[Star Seeker]]s for a time, on intimidation alone. As [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] and [[Thundertron]] left to pursue other goals, Nexus Prime reclaimed his swords and gave some last words of encouragement to Optimus Prime before splitting himself once more. Reduced to a new set of five protoforms, Nexus Prime vanished into space and the annals of history once more. {{storylink|Transformers: Exiles|Exiles}}

====''Prime'' cartoon====
According to legend, at the beginning of time, [[Unicron]] and [[Primus]] battled each other for eons, with neither side remaining victorious for long. Till, that is, Primus created the [[Thirteen]]. These Thirteen defeated Unicron and cast him into space. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}
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===2005 IDW continuity===
{{first|[[Earthfall Part 3: The Mind Bomb|''Robots in Disguise'' #30]] (mentioned); [[The Crucible|#34]] (depicted)}}

[[File:OriginMyths-ThePrimes.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Love child of Silverbolt and Wheeljack.]]

In the primitive age that followed the departure of the [[Knights of Cybertron]], Nexus Prime joined his [[Thirteen Tribes|tribe]] with those of [[Solus Prime|Solus]], [[Vector Prime|Vector]], [[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]] and [[Alpha Trion]] in [[Crystal City]]. Like the other four, he knew [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Onyx Prime]] but he himself was disgusted by Onyx's bestial horde and took time to become acclimated to them. He had a brother in the east who ruled his own kingdom. {{storylink|Origin Myths}} Nexus was the first recorded owner of the mysterious artifact known as the [[Enigma of Combination]]. He evidently chose to keep the artifact's true nature as a physical object a secret, with most believing the "Enigma" part of the name referred to a puzzle that had to be solved to allow for [[Combiner|combination]]. {{storylink|The Crucible}}

One evening, Vector Prime barged in on a meeting to announce the approach of Onyx and [[Liege Maximo|a crony]], as well as the news that [[Septimus Prime]] had perished and that [[The Fallen|the conqueror]] of [[Protihex|his lands]] was on the warpath across Cybertron. Despite Solus and Onyx's dismissal, Nexus felt Septimus had still been a Prime such as they were before he asked who Onyx's minion was, the newcomer introducing himself as Liege Maximo, who had also lost his lands to the army of [[Darklands|Darklanders]]. At Alpha Trion's urging, the Primes allowed Onyx and Liege Maximo into their alliance. When the time of battle came, Nexus wished to join his followers in combat but remained behind at Solus's urging. After the [[Titan (group)|Titans]] arrived, Onyx leapt into the fray only to recognize the enemy commander as his old friend Megatronus. Nexus was shocked at this development, before the eight Primes joined forces. In the aftermath, [[Arcee (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Arcee]] expressed the belief that the alliance would attract Nexus's brother to him. {{storylink|Origin Myths}} Unbeknownst to the Primes, the 'bot they believed to be Onyx Prime was in fact a time-travelling Shockwave from ten million years in the future who had engineered the entire conflict to bring the Primes together as history recorded. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

[[File:RID34 enigma of combination.jpg|thumb|left|250px|My Enigma don't go to none if they're lowborn, hun.]]

Power turned Nexus into something of a git really, believing that all non-Primes should serve their Prime masters. {{storylink|The Crucible}} Among the members of his court was a [[Titan Master]] by the name of [[Infinitus]], who wholeheartedly believed in his master's elitist approach to social engineering. {{storylink|White Heat}} The Thirteen Primes ruled their planet peacefully until Liege Maximo and Megatronus conspired together, goaded on by Shockwave's machinations, and started the [[First Cybertronian Civil War]] via the murder of Solus Prime. While Megatronus fled Cybertron, Nexus and [[Quintus Prime|Quintus]] managed to restrain Maximo, before trying and exiling him aboard [[Vigilem]]. {{storylink|Heavy}} {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

Nexus allied himself with "Onyx Prime" during the war and used his [[Enigma of Combination]] to create the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]]: humanoid Transformers combined with beasts. {{storylink|The Crucible}} [[Galvatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Galvatron]] found the whole concept disgusting and single-handedly slaughtered the Headmasters before coming after Nexus himself. Nexus sneered that Galvatron was a "lowborn" that couldn't kill him, and Galvatron responded by doing just that. The realization that a Prime could be killed by someone other than another Prime caused most of the remaining Primes to flee the planet. {{storylink|The Crucible}}

He was survived by Infinitus, who vowed to keep his master's teachings alive and eventually apply them to all of Cybertron–especially the parts about forced servitude to the Primes. {{storylink|White Heat}} Nexus's [[Titan (group)|Titan]], [[Devisiun (Titan)|Devisiun]], also survived the war and colonized [[Devisiun (planet)|a planet]] in honor of his master which the younger Shockwave eventually seeded with [[Ore-5]]. {{storylink|Ceremony|The Lost Colonies of Cybertron}}
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===''Prime Wars Trilogy'' cartoons===
[[Victorion]] claimed to only follow the will of Nexus Prime, though she admitted he hadn't given her any new guidance in some time. {{storylink|Desperate Actions}}

===''Power of the Primes'' marketing material===
Nexus Prime's [[Spark]] passed into the possession of one of the twelve [[Prime Master]]s; hidden within a suit of decoy armor, they safeguarded the abilities of the Primes until the present day. By uniting with a larger Transformer, the Prime Master could channel the powers of Nexus's Spark and grant them unique abilities that varied with each new partner. {{storylink|Power of the Primes (toyline)|Power of the Primes}}

{{note|For a list of every permutation of Nexus Prime's abilities, see [[Prime Master/Combinations|this link]].}}

===''Cyberverse'' cartoon===
Nexus Prime was one of the [[Thirteen]]. {{storylink|Dweller In The Depths (Cyberverse)|Dweller In The Depths}} {{storylink|Silent Strike}} {{storylink|The Other One}}

Nexus Prime eventually passed, being buried with all of his worldly possessions on another planet. Following the [[Quintesson]] invasion of Cybertron, [[Grimlock (Cyberverse)|Grimlock]] and [[Arcee (Cyberverse)|Arcee]] grave-robbed him. {{storylink|The Immobilizers}}

===2019 IDW continuity===
[[File:SeaOfRustI-NexusPrime.jpg|thumb]]
Nexus Prime, the holder of the Enigma of Combination, was one of the Thirteen Primes. {{storylink|Lord of Misrule: Sea of Rust I|Sea of Rust I}} It was said that Primus had created Nexus as a being of controlled chaos, introducing necessary change into Cybertronian society to prevent stagnation. {{storylink|Lord of Misrule: Enigmatic|Enigmatic}}

===''One'' film===
[[File:TransformersOne-ThePrimesholograms.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Nexus is the holographic guy on the farthest left!]]
{{voiceactor|[[Manuel Pérez]] (Latin-American Spanish)}}
One of the original Thirteen Primes, Nexus Prime ruled alongside his fellows until the [[Quintesson]]s invaded Cybertron. When the Primes were directed by [[Sentinel Prime (One)|Sentinel]] to a meeting of Quintesson generals, they found it an ambush. Despite being caught off-guard, the Primes managed to turn the tide of the battle before Sentinel betrayed them, stabbing Nexus and using his weapon to slay several of the Primes. Fifty cycles later, the spirits of the Primes appeared before Orion Pax when he was bestowed the [[Matrix of Leadership]] and became [[Optimus Prime (One)|Optimus Prime]]. {{storylink|Transformers One (film)|One}}
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===Energon Universe===
After Optimus Prime found himself in the [[Hall of the Primes]], he saw a statue of Nexus Prime among the others. {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 22|Transformers #22}}
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==Games==
===''Transformers: Earth Wars''===
;'''Nexus Prime Core'''
[[File:Earth Wars Nexus Prime Core.jpg|thumb|upright=0.6]]

Nexus Prime's [[Prime Master#Transformers: Earth Wars|Prime Core]] (his "heart" as one of the primordial [[Thirteen|Thirteen Primes]]) fell to Earth under mysterious circumstances along with those of his siblings to become a hotly contested resource in the [[Earth Wars (conflict)|Earth Wars]]. {{storylink|Power of the Primes (Earth Wars)|Power of the Primes}}

*'''Effect:''' Additional damage to enemy [[Transformers: Earth Wars#Combiners|Combiner]]s. If the [[Transformers: Earth Wars#Standard Bots|Bot]] this Core is affixed to is deployed before your Combiner phase, your Combiner has increased attack power and damage negation.

[https://tfew.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4733780017183-Prime-Cores-Bot Nexus Prime Core at Transformers: Earth Wars Wiki]

{{chargamestub|{{storylink|Transformers: Earth Wars}}}}

===''Transformers Roleplaying Game''===
Nexus Prime was a stalwart ally of Prima and the first combiner. {{storylink|Transformers One Sourcebook}} At the dawn of history, Nexus Prime received the [[Enigma of Combination]]. Some historical texts instead remembered him instead as "Nexus Maximus", {{storylink|The Enigma of Combination}} his original name, {{storylink|Transformers One Sourcebook}} while some ancient humans knew him as {{w|Juno (mythology)|Juno}}. {{storylink|The Enigma of Combination}}

==Toys==
===''Cybertron'', ''Classics'', and ''Timelines''===
[[Image:Timelinestoy-NexusMaximus.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Remember to use the instructions! You don't want to put something in the wrong hole.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|[[Skyfall (Cybertron)#Cybertron|Skyfall]] ([[2005]])}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|[[Landquake (Timelines)#Timelines|Landquake]] ([[2006]])}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|[[Breakaway (Classics)#Classics|Breakaway]] ([[2007]])}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|[[Topspin (Classics)#Classics|Topspin]] ([[2008]])}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-sd|[[Heatwave (Timelines)#Timelines|Heatwave]] ([[2009]])}}</ul>
{{toydesigner|[[Dan Khanna]] (concept artist)}}

:Nexus Maximus is composed of his five team members, with Heatwave forming his central body component. His limbs' [[energon weapon]]s form his hands and feet. Conisisting of [[redeco]]s of components of the ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' combiners, Nexus Maximus, just like [[Superion Maximus]], [[Bruticus Maximus (Energon)|Bruticus Maximus]], and [[Constructicon Maximus]], features universal connection points for the limbs, allowing many different combinations and even swapping of limbs from different teams, in a fashion very similar to ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]'''s "[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)#1986 (Scramble City and Transformers 2010)|Scramble City]]"-type combiner teams. Unlike the other Maximus-style combiners, Nexus Maximus features four unique molds for his limb pieces, rather than two redecoed to fit both the legs and arms, due to him using both [[Destruction Team]] and [[Air Team]] molds. Whereas the individual components' robot modes still feature the same head sculpts as the ''Energon'' figures they're redecoed from, the combined form of Nexus Maximus himself was given an entirely new, unique head sculpt, which is an amalgamation of visual elements of its components' own heads: Skyfall's eyes, Landquake's chin, Breakaway's forehead, Topspin's "mohawk", and Heatwave's "ears".

:Nexus Maximus is the combined form of the first five [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] freebie toys, which were released over the span of five years in different toyline brandings for the components.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/TFCCNexusMaximus/nexusmaximus.htm More information on Nexus Maximus at TFU.info]''
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===''Power of the Primes''===
[[File:TF-PotP-SDCC-2018-Throne-of-the-Primes-Nexus-Prime.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb]]
<ul class = "iconlist>{{Bp-m1|'''Throne of the Primes''' (Leader Class, [[2018]])}}</ul>
:*''Takara ID number'': '''PP-43'''
:*''TakaraTomy release date'': [[January 26]], [[2019]]
{{toydesigner|[[Marcelo Matere]] (throne designer, packaging artist)}}

:''[[Power of the Primes (toyline)|Power of the Primes]]'' Nexus Prime is a retool of the [[Maccadam#Power of the Primes|Alchemist Prime]]/[[Submarauder (G1)#Power of the Primes|Submarauder]] inner robot with a new [[Prime Master]] sigil/backpack, packaged in the [[Throne of the Primes#Toys|Throne of the Primes]] set.

:This toy has identical features to the other Prime Masters in the line. The [[Titan Master]]-like robot can store inside decoy armor or ride [[Size class|Legends Class]] figures in vehicle mode, and is fully compatible with toys from the previous ''[[Titans Return (toyline)|Titans Return]]'' line. The "Power Swap" gimmick means its [[spark]] form can plug onto any decoy armor's weapon form (which has a [[5 mm post]] to be held by larger figures), Deluxe Class figures' chest armor, Voyager Class figures' bucklers, Leader Class figures' [[Matrix of Leadership/toys#Power of the Primes|Matrix]] (in place of their Matrix core), [[combiner]]s' torsos (in place of their [[Enigma of Combination]]), or the included [[Scepter of Sparks]] or [[Halo of Primus]] accessories. With the power of [[you]]r imagination, this bestows the Prime Master's [[Prime Master/Combinations|unique power]] on the larger figure.

:While Nexus is a retool of Alchemist Prime (gang-molded with his included Submarauder decoy armor), it is unknown what gang-molded decoy armor Nexus would have had as a hypothetical mass-retail Prime Master.

:This set debuted at [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2018, and was later sold via [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] online. It was also available at general retail in Taiwan.
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===''Age of the Primes''===
[[File:AOTP-Nexus-Prime.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|What do you ''mean'' I'm not the [[Amalgamous Prime#Age of the Primes|Prime that splits into multiple components]]??]]
<ul class = "iconlist>{{Bp-pr7|'''The Thirteen Nexus Prime''' (Voyager Class, [[2026]])}}</ul>
:*''Accessories'': [[Enigma of Combination#Age of the Primes|Enigma of Combination]], 2 wings/blasters
{{toydesigner|[[Mark Maher]] (Hasbro), [[Shogo Hasui]] (TakaraTomy)}}<ref name=AOTPDeepDive>[[February 3]], [[2026]]'s [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzWSj4wlnqM Transformers Age of the Primes Deep Dive | In-Hand Look at the New Wave | February 2026] with [[Evan Brooks]], [[Mark Maher]], and [[Nate Purswell]].</ref>

:Released in the fifth wave of ''[[Transformers: Age of the Primes|Age of the Primes]]'' Voyager Class toys, Nexus Prime is mostly based on his ''[[Transformers One (film)|Transformers One]]'' design with a few specific details lifted from his ''Covenant of Primus'' design and [[Dan Khanna]]'s original concept art, with the color scheme of his [[#Toys|''Cybertron''/''Classics''/''Timelines'' toy]], transforming into a Cybertronian <s>flying brick</s> "jet tank".<ref>{{citesocial|link=https://www.hasbropulse.com/product/transformers-age-of-the-primes-voyager-class-the-thirteen-nexus-prime/G20015X00|quote=Convert between bot and jet tank in 23 steps.|name=Hasbro Pulse|title=Transformers Age of the Primes Voyager Class The Thirteen Nexus Prime}}</ref>

:He includes 3 accessories: two removable wings that can function as 5 mm-compatible blasters, and his [[Artifacts of the Primes|Artifact]], the Enigma of Combination, which is naturally branded with his personal sigil. While it nominally stores underneath his nosecone, it can also be hand-held (or mounted on whatever [[5 mm post]]-hole you feel like). His wings can also be hinged backwards in robot mode for an even more ''Covenant''/''One'' accurate appearance. The jet-mode "thrusters" molded near his wrists are fully [[Fire Blast effect|blast effect]] compatible, and reference the many times Nexus has adorned some form of forearm-mounted artillery.

:[[File:AOTP Nexus Prime Combinations.jpg|thumb|left|''I'll wear my grandkids' clothes'']]
:Rather than being the entire combiner as he is usually depicted, this Nexus Prime forms only a combiner torso, with a headsculpt based on his ''Covenant of Primus'' design. Dedicated limb-bots for a full combiner are planned for [[2027]].<ref name=AOTPDeepDive/>

:Until then, the combiner torso is compatible with ''Age of the Primes'' [[Silverbolt (G1)#Age of the Primes|Silverbolt's]] combiner frame, attaching by rotating the upper torso 180 degrees, allowing the bulk of Nexus to show as a chestplate rather than be covered up by [[Superion (G1)#Age of the Primes|Superion's]] chestplate. As they use the same frame system, the Nexus torso is also compatible with the arms of ''Age of the Primes'' [[Bruticus (G1)#Age of the Primes|Bruticus]]. Additionally, Nexus in vehicle mode is able to attach to front of Silverbolt's booster kibble.

:Nexus Prime went through quite a few ideas in the planning process, including originally being a Leader Class, an all-in-one combiner, and a [[Duocon]].<ref name=AOTPDeepDive/>

:The toy was officially revealed when it went up for preorder on Tuesday, [[February 3]], 2026, although Maher posted a video of it in [https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUOa17xD9xC its combined form to Instagram] two days beforehand. This was presumably because retail pictures of the figure had leaked, and caused a great deal of anxiety over him apparently not being a combiner.
{{comingsoontoy}}

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==Notes==
[[File:NexusPrimeHead.jpg|thumb|upright=1.75|]]
*Nexus Prime's backstory bears a noticeable similarity to that of {{w|Voltron}}.
*Nexus Prime's TFCC magazine profile mentions that he "no longer has an [[alternate mode]]", due to being split apart for so long and then reassembled.
*Like other members of the Thirteen, Nexus was originally established as a [[multiversal singularity]] who existed as one being across all space and time, but that is [[Shroud|no longer the case]].
*As depicted in the Covenant of Primus, all five of his known components are visible on the right side of the body: a tank (Landfall) and jet (Breakaway) making up one arm, and a helicopter (Topspin) and jet (Skyquake) making up one leg. Hasbro designer [[Aaron Archer]]'s intent was that, as the ultimate combiner, Nexus Prime was not limited to just five components, but could instead combine with any number of robots.<ref name=reinterpretation>{{citesocial
|quote=I would suggest that instead of calling it a misrepresentation, call it a reinterpretation. The Cov. version of Nexus Prime as represented in the book, not only has a rearranged parts, all known (5) parts are represented on the viewable side, he is made up of at least ten parts, half hidden in shadow (other than elements of a carrier type jet) as they were not full named or fully realized characters - it was Aaron Archer's direction that he not be only confined to 5 members, but his core made him combine-able with anyone, as he is a god character. Along with the face detail being moved around, I also did several sketches with him as ever more laden with combiner parts, walking hunched over ala RotF Devastator, or more wide stanced with 4 arms. |link=https://roseknightmare.tistory.com/2760 |name=Ken Christiansen |site=blog post |title=Nexus Prime's design behind story |year=2025 |month=11 |day=26}}</ref>
*Nexus Prime's head design varies greatly across his depictions. The design—an amalgamation of traits from his components' heads—is meant to evoke a superhero cowl (similiar to [[Batman]]), with his head covered in armor but his mouth exposed. However, the deco used for his mouth is almost completely black, making it difficult to see. ''The Covenant of Primus'' reinterpreted his mouth area as a visor, his chin as a [[Roadbuster (G1)|Roadbuster]]-esque [[mouthplate]], and his actual eyes as forehead detail. It also tweaked the sides of his head into antenna and circular details resembling those of Optimus Prime. Artist [[Ken Christiansen]] has stated that these changes were deliberate reinterpretation.<ref name=reinterpretation /> Most subsequent incarnations have followed the Covenant interpretation; as a result of this game of telephone, his big screen debut in ''[[Transformers One (film)|Transformers One]]'' bears almost no resemblance to his original design (save for the upper-torso, which is nearly 1:1).
*[[Volcanicus (Cyberverse)|''Cyberverse'' Volcanicus]]'s head is based on the Covenant's Nexus Prime design, albeit with a mouth and chin-guard resembling Nexus's original design.

===Naming issues===
[[Fun Publications]] originally submitted the possible names '''Prime Nexus''' and '''Maximus Prime''' to [[Hasbro]] for the character (reflecting the fact that the character is a Prime in-fiction), Hasbro rejected these, apparently because they were feeling protective towards the use of the name Prime (despite previously having approved the fiction that named him a Prime, written by their own [[Forest Lee]]). Hasbro suggested merging the non-Prime segments of the two names instead... oops.

Apparently neither Hasbro nor Fun Publications did their research when naming Nexus Maximus, because there is another product which shares that name and was, as of [[May 24]], [[2009]], the top Google result (websites relating to this character have since surpassed it). While it is definitely a "toy", it is most assuredly not intended for ages 5 and up. According to the Fun Publications Club panel at [[BotCon 2009]], Hasbro did a search for the name with "safe search" on, causing them to not see... well, [http://www.edenfantasys.com/dildos/double-ended-dildos/nexus-maximus this]. '''NOTE: DEFINITELY NOT SAFE FOR WORK.'''

When he finally appeared in fiction, his name was, in fact, given as Nexus Prime, which makes much better sense story-wise but deprives us of many cheap and easy joke opportunities. [[Pete Sinclair]] posted an image on the [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] forums of [[Aquarius (SG)|Aquarius]] blaming the "Nexus Maximus" name on a bad translation by [[Beta Maxx (RID)|Beta Maxx]].<ref>[https://tilallaremine.wordpress.com/2011/05/31/nexus-prime/ Definitely, definitely, *not* Nexus Maximus. Timelines Nexus Prime!] from 'Til All Are Mine blog.</ref>

(The debate is still on as to whether Nexus Maximus constitutes a choking hazard.)

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Nexus Prime''' (ネクサスプライム ''Nekusasu Puraimu'')
*''Mandarin:'' '''Jīng Tiān Wěi''' (经天纬)

==Gallery==
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NexusPrimeDanKhannaConcept.jpg|Original ''Timelines'' concept art
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==References==
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Sal Buscema

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Alientraveller:

'''Sal Buscema''' ([[January 26]], [[1936]] — [[January 23]], [[2026]]) was a comic book artist best known for ''Peter Parker, The Spectacular [[Spider-Man]]''. He also worked on ''Balder the Brave'', ''Incredible [[Hulk]]'', ''[[Thor]]'', ''Silver Surfer'', ''[[Batman]]'', ''Conan the Barbarian'' & ''[[Captain America]]''.

==IDW==
*''[[ROM (comic)|ROM]]''
*''[[Rom: Dire Wraiths]]''
*''[[Rom & the Micronauts]]''
*''[[Revolution]]''

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''[[:Category:Images by Sal Buscema|Extended Sal Buscema gallery]]''
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Talk:Wheelie (G1)

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Alientraveller: /* Please... I literally created an account to BEG somebody to make a prose version of this page. */ unsigned tag

I applaud the profile. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:03, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
::It's amazing how many sentences can rhyme without not making sense. [[User:American Girl|American Girl]] 19:28, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
: Well, on second thought, I applaud the concept of the bio, but think the content is more appropriate for the animated continuity section. It seems to chronicle the circumstances of the movie, and not his personality. (Remember, in Dreamwave, he was never on Quintessa that we saw.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:05, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:Point conceded. The new bio's better than mine anyway. The whole entry is much improved. So many horrible rhymes...bwahahahahaha. --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 12:30, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

We totally need to complete this entry. This deserves to be a Featured Article. sadly, I'm pretty awful about fiction. I OWN most of it, but don't REMEMBER it very well. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 06:20, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Having just rhymed all through the section I just added, I have no idea how Wheelie keeps it up 24/7. Exhausting! --[[User:Ratbat|Ratbat]] 09:06, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
:Rhyming isn't really all that hard if you have the vocabulary of a bard. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 13:05, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Fixed the manga summary to rhyme and keep the gag going. Though I think I write rhymes more like Dr. Seuss than Wheelie...--[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 23:05, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

wow, this profile almost makes me wish I didn't use my Wheelie toy as cannon fodder in the late 80's -- great job with the rhymes whoever did this should work for a greeting card company

I'm fine with the rhyming in the article, but the rhythm really needs work. I'd change it, but I'm afraid of being accused of ripping apart large sections of the article for no good reason (see Walky's comment below).--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 22:56, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

==Not yet to be Featured==
Sipher, the reason I unfeatured it is because the inconsistency of the rhyme's meter is really embarrassing. If you read the history, you'll see my note. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
:Then maybe you should have removed the "Featured Article" Category, which is why I put the tag on it (and is still there as of your last edit). --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
:: Indeed I should! Meanwhile, history is your friend. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:43, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

==Commercial voice==
Walky, Frank Welker never VOICED Scrappy-Doo! He did, however, voice Peewit. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 12:57, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Welker ''did'' voice Zzcooby & Freddy in new show! [[User:Wazzpinator|Wazzpinator]] 18:33, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

==Italian names==
I don't have the brainpower to add these in rhyme tonight. If somebody could, Wheelie was called Saetta in the dub of TFTM, and... apparently ''Scooter'' in everything else. (At least, it doesn't SEEM to be a joke...) --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 05:06, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:I apologize. - Chris McFeely, not signed in

== Continuity rhymes ==

"Continuity" doesn't rhyme with "see". [It rhymes with "bitty", to pick an irrelevant-but-accurate example] - 21:39, 16 August 2009 (EDT)
:It also rhymes with "enginuity"! -- [[User:Ziyad|Ziyad]] 20:03, 18 August 2009 (EDT)
::Or even "ingenuity"!--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 00:27, 19 August 2009 (EDT)
:::Ooh! Here's one that's on-topic, "ambiguity"!! -- [[User:Ziyad|Ziyad]] 07:14, 19 August 2009 (EDT)

== But seriously, folks... ==

...am I going to be hugely unpopular if I state my belief that the article has, at this point, gone way overboard? Rhymes in the section headers, line-breaks all over the place, rhymes being used to describe continuities where he ''didn't rhyme''... I think that this page has long since crossed the line between "fun" and "taking it way too far". Frankly, I would almost be in favour of scaling it back to just having a rhyming opening and captions. A ''lot'' of the fiction section is, to my eyes, suffering because of the demands of the rhyme scheme. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:11, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:All my hard work...unappreciated...:( --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 10:47, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
::But to be serious, I wrote nearly all the rhymes in the fiction portion of the article and created the linebreaks so folks could see the scheme. The rhymes in the fiction headers and continuity notes were some no-username's doing and I've never been very fond of them.
::Still, if many people agree that the humor interferes with the facts, then we can put it to a vote as to whether we get rid of the rhymes in the headers, the rhymes all together or if we just leave it. It may be ''my'' joke, but I'm not going to have a heart attack if others want to change it so it doesn't interfere with the facts (unlike ''some'' members of this Wiki). --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 10:54, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::Aw, it's not that it's not appreciated, I see what you were doing, but it's... it's like Bonecrusher hate jokes. We started out with them and they were funny when the article was small but then when it was filled in they got really tiresome but people kept dogpiling 'em on anyway, until we had to say "No more". That's sort of what I'm feeling here. The idea worked when the article was small, but when it's full (which it ''isn't'' yet!) I think it gets in the way more than it is fun. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:56, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
::::I need to concur, although we should keep SOME rhymes for sure. At the very least, his summary. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:20, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::::''I need to concur/although we should keep SOME rhymes for sure.''
:::::Why, there's one right there! :) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:31, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
But this is the most awesome page on the wiki. It's one of the things people think of when they talk about how awesome our wiki is. It's like getting rid of the teacup ride at Disneyland. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:35, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:Or the testicles in ROTF. The ''Awesome'' defense only goes so far, especially in Transformers.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::That's a terrible analogy. When people talk about our wiki, they mention our Wheelie article that is all rhymes, and this is a good thing that they think epitomizes what we stand for and why we're better than other wikis. When people talk about Devastator's balls, it's derisively. I don't understand your comparison. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:46, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
::::It's simple - Devastator's testicle's are 'awesome.' Bay thinks so. A lot of the moviegoing public though so. Most 'serious' fans thought otherwise. But an awful lot of people laughed and laughed at them, probably more than will ever read this wiki. Just because one group of people thinks something is awesome doesn't keep it from getting in the way of (imparting information / telling a strong story.) The fandom can be be a bit of an insulated community - an echo chamber, if you will. Pointing to anecdotal evidence one way or the other shouldn't be our benchmark. It's much more useful to go back to core principles.
::::But mostly I was seizing on your use of the word ''awesome'' which has been forever commingled with Bay for me.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 13:25, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::::Well, I think the charm of us writing articles in the personality of the characters extends to more than just this one. [[Crankcase (G1)|Crankcase]], [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]], etc., for instance. It can actually be weirdly useful sometimes in conveying information about characters without having to spell it out. But, if it's getting in the way of having an actual informative article in any instance, then it ''does'' need toning down. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:35, 10 October 2009 (EDT)

::I agree some of the rhyming should go. The headers, external link, notes and voice actor info in rhyme seems redundant to me, if not annoying. I can somewhat dig the argument not to put rhyme in sections of fiction in which he didn't rhyme, although I'd hate to see it go. But what I think would greatly help this article is a better layout. Currently, the article is all rather statically and confusingly "text-humongous white space-pic". I'd like to see it being connected a tad more by switching the text-pic order every second fiction/rhyme-paragraph (as well as having some of the paragraphs expanded). [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 11:48, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
::I think all of the ''paragraphs'' should remain in rhyme. Headers, bullet-point "list" items... no. That's overkill. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 12:51, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::Yeah, mark me down as a compromise vote. Ditch the headers/notes, etc rhymes but keep the fiction section poetry. Partly because I spent a lot of time writing most of it, but also because I don't think the fiction poetry really interferes with the knowledge. The headers and stuff is annoying, though. --'''DrSpengler (at work, can't log in)'''
::::I'll agree with that. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 14:55, 12 October 2009 (EDT)
::::I'd quite happily dump the whole joke, which was never that funny. And it does seriously impede the article. '''Vote NO on this from me''' [[User:Eire]] 20.02 Oct 12 09 (UTC)

==Japanese fiction: Rhyme or Not Rhyme?==

Recently, I've been told to stop writing the Japanese fiction sections in rhyme because Wheelie didn't rhyme in Japan, and that all rhymes should be reverted to standard. I wrote the Japanes fiction sections in rhyme to keep up the theme and flow of the article, and because it was fun, yeah. But if everyone else thinks the Japanese fiction sections should be de-rhymed, then so be it. Let's take a vote. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 12:26, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''AGAINST''' rhyme in the Japanese section. It simply isn't appropriate for that incarnation of the character.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 12:39, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for it''' because I like the general theme of the page, it's fun, and because Wheelie only never rhymed because the Japanese language sucks at rhyming (same reason why their poems and music lyrics don't rhyme). The sentence structure just doesn't work in its favor. Just because the Japanese couldn't do it doesn't mean we should follow suit. English rocks at rhyming. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:55, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:Here's me voting '''for it''', because if we're going to do a gag, we ought to be consistent with it throughout the article, or it looks half-assed. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:33, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for it'''. Keep it consistent or keep it out. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:38, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:Just so there's no confusion, I am obviously '''for it'''. I think the rhymes make the article fun and I believe that having random non-rhyming chunks would break up the flow of the page. And doing it just because Wheelie didn't rhyme in certain continuities isn't worth killing the fun. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 13:40, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for it'''. Keeps the page consistent and there's already someone willing to do it. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:00, 8 February 2010 (EST)
: I vote '''AGAINST''' all the rhyme. Seriously, you ever sit down and try to exract information from this page? Imagine you're someone who knows nothing of Wheelie. After reading this I guarantee you'll know even less. [[User: Eire]] 18.59 8 Feb 2010
:: Hey, were you the [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Tales_of_the_Fallen_issue_5&diff=414380&oldid=413827 guy who called a dude a schmuck for no real reason], and so then he [http://shortpacked.livejournal.com/593224.html?thread=14980936#t14980936 quit this wiki] because he was treated like shit? You don't get a vote. Especially since you think Florida and Cuba are separated by a friggin' river. (Anyway, I vote against rhyming in the Headmasters section.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:07, 8 February 2010 (EST)

:I vote '''against''' the rhyme, and note that when I first read this page, the break ''away'' from rhyming was hilarious... particularly because the text of the section was written in short, flat deliberately ''boring'' sentences to maximize the contrast. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:08, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::Yeah. I don't vote for the lack of rhyming in the Headmasters section for technicality reasons, but because it would be hilarious. Especially if it were written like a petulant little punk. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:09, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:'''AGAINST''' btw. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:09, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I'm '''for it''' as I think it'd disrupt the flow, if it was only randomly rhyming.'''--TFDatabase'''
::''Whatever'' policy we adopt, it's not going to be random. If it rhymes, it's for a reason. If it doesn't rhyme (especially in specific sections), it's also for a reason.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 15:03, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:::But it LOOKS random (at least before you know why it was done). Also, it seems weird that TFDatabase gets jumped on for using the same wording Spengs did earlier.[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:10, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::::Just a fluke of timing. Nothing more. It's not like I'm constantly on the Wiki monitoring each and every comment that comes on.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 16:03, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for''' for the reasons already listed by so many others. Now, if you could find a way to do that section in haiku instead... [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:35, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::That idea is morbidly appealing. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 14:50, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:::MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:57, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I'm '''for it'''. As Detour mentioned, Japanese sentence structures don't allow much room for rhyming and the rhyming is unique to Wheelie (like how SG Nightbeat's page is done in Edward G. Robinson's gangster character fashion).
:(Haiku? Good grief...) --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 15:27, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::...so I have an evil sense of humor. You won't hold it against me, will you? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 17:44, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:::Not really, but I can imagine the chore of parsing everything down to 5-7-5. Heck, [[Wikipedia:Waka (poetry)#Tanka|tanka]] might be a better option given its 5-7-5-7-7. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 19:07, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for''' the rhyming, for the reasons already given. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 15:41, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::'''As do I''', we have it noted that he didn't rhyme in other dubs anyway. [[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 17:49, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''against''' rhyming in the Headmasters section. Having that section being assholey makes it even funnier, and Headmasters Wheelie is they guy who wouldn't go along with it simply to be a jerk. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 18:14, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for''' rhyming, as otherwise we should probably stick a disclaimer at the start of the Headmasters section because you know others will come along and make it rhyme again later anyway.--[[User:MCRG Again|MCRG Again]] 18:56, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:'''Against''' rhyming, because the Headmasters section should read like the dialog of the show: boring and stating the obvious, repeatedly. (I'd be for haiku form, though) -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 19:08, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I'm '''FOR''' rhyming because it'd flow badly otherwise. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:13, 8 February 2010 (EST)

: I would totally support rewriting ''Headmasters'' Wheelie in sarcastic Goth format, if it could be pulled off well. Otherwise.... eh. Having the rhyming is overkill. Not having it is inconsistent. Pick your poison! -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 21:16, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:'''FOR''' rhyming. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 21:23, 8 February 2010 (EST)

I declare voting over. I'd only be convinced to ditch Spengler's large amounts of work over a technicality is if voting were overwhelmingly in favor of it. Like, near-unanimous. And that certainly isn't the case, so the rhyming stays. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:54, 8 February 2010 (EST)

:Yaayyy! I'm appreciated! I've got tomorrow off work so I'll knock out a few more episodes. If it's any consolation to those who voted against the rhymes, in order to write these fiction summaries I have to actually ''watch'' each episode. A most-terrible fate. So this is a very hollow victory for Spengler. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 22:44, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Okay, you know what? I seriously retract my earlier moan about the rhyming. Spengler is utterly rocking this, getting across all the relevant info in a way I never thought was possible. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 07:58, 15 February 2010 (EST)
:I'm cookin' MCs like a pound of bacon, yo. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 11:02, 15 February 2010 (EST)

==Featured Article material?==

So, I finally finished the thing. His every fiction section is completed, pics are plentiful and, so far as I know, his toy page is up to snuff (toys aren't my forte', I admit). Do you think this article is worthy of Featured Article status? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 18:04, 14 April 2010 (EDT)
:Considering Walky already slapped the Featured template on it, apparently it is. ;)
:(It's certainly the most impressive of our self-demonstrating articles, that's for damn sure.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 18:13, 14 April 2010 (EDT)
::Aw jeez, somehow I completely missed that. My bad! Disregard this! (and thanks, Walky!) --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 18:18, 14 April 2010 (EDT)

== If we ever get the chance... ==

I'd love to see a picture of Wheelie being attacked by Decepticons on this article with the caption "Oh men of dark and dismal fate, forego your cruel employ! Have pity on my lonely state: I am an orphan boy!" (This is a quote from Gilbert & Sullivan's ''Pirates of Penzance'', for the operatically ignorant.) I realize that there is no good picture for this caption as of now and that this will likely not happen, but I thought I'd just throw that out there. Also, kudos to those brave men and women who endeavored to write this article. You would make your English teachers proud.
 - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 00:33, 21 April 2011 (EDT)

== Wow ==

I can't even begin to imagine the effort that went into this. Truly epic! - [[User:LucidFox|LucidFox]] 10:29, 12 January 2012 (EST)

== Generations toy caption ideas ==

I pity the fool who's no Meister retool!

I pity the fool who ain't a retool!

Reformatted to look like Meister? I think this body is much nicer!

I may look like Jazz, Stepper, Longarm (not Prime)--but do any of them ever bother to rhyme?

I used to be a Minicar; a Jazz retool is better by far!

A Jazz retool can never fail (as long as you ignore the [[scale]])!

[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] 02:35, 26 September 2012 (EDT)

== What rhymes with 'orange'? ==

1) This entry is amazing, but 2) all this and no joke about the notorious difficulty of rhyming the word 'orange'?--[[User:Dubbilex|Dubbilex]] 03:29, 30 December 2012 (EST)
:"Door-hinge". I learned that from the Muppets. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 13:06, 1 March 2013 (EST)
::How about a rhyme for "purple"? "Urkel"? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 14:09, 1 March 2013 (EST)
:Bloom County recommends "whore binge". [[User:Phasma Felis|Phasma Felis]] 16:49, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

:[[Wheelie (G1)#The Transformers Collection|I did it.]] —[[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 01:23, 22 March 2022 (EDT)

== Can we please tone down on the rhyming? ==

I get that a lot of you have spent a to of time and effort making this entire article rhyme, but can you guys please re-edit parts of this article to tone it down and remove the rhyming in some areas, specifically in the notes and toy section?

A little bit of rhyming would be fine, but to be blunt, the way the article is written is not pleasant to look at and the rhyming just makes the article feel like a chore to read. It gets tiring to read very quickly and I would rather have the information be just available rather then hidden under annoying rhymes.

If not, can we at least have a non-rhyming version of this available via suite, similar to how some of the character articles are split into multiple pages like Main, G1 Cartoon, Toys and Merchandise etc? That way, you can keep the rhyming versions for those who want and a non-rhyming for those who don't want to read this version?

Again, sorry for coming across as a buzz-kill, but I just find the article not fun to read and I don't want to decrypt rhymes just to read the trivia.[[User:Gretnablue|Gretnablue]] ([[User talk:Gretnablue|talk]]) 17:41, 22 November 2015 (EST)
:I wouldn't mind a double of the article that doesn't rhyme. Information should always take precedence. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 18:48, 22 November 2015 (EST)

Mmm... be careful with that. Make a version without the rhyming if you must, but who will govern that the information is the same between the two? Also... One of the reasons I love this Wikia to bits is how it doesn't take itself so seriously while it indeed provides way more than I ever wanted to know about Transformers. And sure, the meter is all over the place, but then again, Wheelie wasn't consistent, either. -- Jerryteacup, 30 December 2016
:Also remember the huge bold text at the top of [[Talk:Main Page]]. - [[User:TBR|TBR]] ([[User talk:TBR|talk]]) 19:13, 30 December 2016 (EST)

== There are other rhyming blokes, maybe they could make good jokes ==

We all know Wheelie's the master of rhymes,

But there are others that talk like that all the time!

There's [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadblock_(G.I._Joe) Roadblock], [http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Crackotage Crackotage] and even [http://adventuretime.wikia.com/wiki/Choose_Goose Choose Goose]

And baddies like [http://banjokazooie.wikia.com/wiki/Gruntilda_Winkybunion Grunty] who like to let loose!

With that in mind, it could be fun

To reference these guys on "Wheelie (G1)".

There's even a [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RhymesOnADime trope entry one can look up]

To see what character references one can cook up!
--[[User:Samus Aran|Samus Aran]] ([[User talk:Samus Aran|talk]]) 09:29, 28 June 2017 (EDT)

== Can we at least clear up some of this infomation on this article? ==

Looking above, it seems clear that the ryhming just isn't going away, but can we at least make the infomation clear? In someplaces, the ryhmes just feel like they get in the way or their is simply infomation just missing because you could figure out a way for it to rhyme. Like reading the toy section, next to the info about the G1 toy is a image of two colour variants, but the section mentions nothing on why. Similarly, the Titans Return starts going on about how it lacks a weapon, but since nearly all the others don't have weapons, why is this signifficant and why was it the only one that wasn't a shelfwarmer?

Also the Headmasters Manga section is rather unclear as well and so is the Armada bit in the Trivia section (what is the fact their excatly) and just all over, their are just ryhmes that don't make sense unless you already know what's it about (which makes it useless to newcomers)or just seem to be there for the sake of being there.

Honestly, this and a few others pages feel like you care more about in-jokes and being funny rather than being informative and just ended up looking elsewhere for the info I was looking gor Wheelie toys because I got sick of the ryhmes. [[User:TheGreenGardenOfTWST|TheGreenGardenOfTWST]] ([[User talk:TheGreenGardenOfTWST|talk]]) 04:39, 18 August 2017 (EDT)

I agree that, at this point, the article is difficult to read and the joke has been worn down. Blurr and Jorge Figueroa all have their joke idioms confined to the first section only, Liar Starscream is easy to understand, and Rewind's page goes back to normal for the IDW section where the story details actually mattered. Wheelie has been a pretty minor character everywhere and was probably least unimportant in the G1 cartoon and Headmasters (and did he even speak in rhyme in Headmasters?), so if there were a magic button we could press to turn those sections normal, I'd agree with it. But it's not worthwhile for anyone to trudge back now and try to regenerate it all in normal speech.... nor do I really think it will make any difference at this point if we say "as of Sept. 2017 this joke is over, we're writing his few and unimportant comic appearances non-rhymingly from this point on." So I guess... there's nothing we can do. But yeah, I agree, there should have been a line drawn. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 08:36, 18 August 2017 (EDT)

== Archiving and reformatting ==

It was brought up over a year ago on Discord that this article has become pretty problematic. I brought up the disccusion around that time in the community portal but it fell on deaf ears, so I figured it's time to try re-evaluating again.

'''My thoughts:'''

In my opinion, the article spends far too much time on the gimmick/joke, than actually providing any useful info. The article is hard to read or obtain any decent info out of because its sole focus is to make every section a rhyming stanza. I've personally found myself going in there multiple times (even before I signed up to the wiki), to find out something really quick and left with nothing, and instead had to spend several minutes to hours flicking through episodes of G1 or chapters of Legends or whatever myself to find out the information I was looking for, which is all very well when you have the source material at your disposal, but not a lot of people do, and that's typically why they come to the wiki in the first place. I get the joke and I'll admit that I found it funny when I first discovered the article however many years ago, but when you actually start to read it or pick it apart, you start to realize that it's not actually helpful at all and it becomes extremely obvious that most of the thought that's gone into it is "how can I make this rhyme?" and not "does this actually explain anything?". I'm not sure that is something we should be setting our main focus on as a wiki. I know that we've built a reputation for the article's format in the past by the wider internet fandom etc, but I don't think any of those people had really taken the time to see if what they're reading actually makes sense or tells them something worthwhile.

The other big issue I have is that it also makes it hard for users to contribute to in any way because everything has to be formulated in rhyme. A hypothetical situation I brought up last night whenever re-opening the year-old topic was: What if there happened to be one person who had done extensive research into something and was the only person to have that particular knowledge, but couldn't add it to the article because they can't word it into rhyme? Like, yeah, they ''could'' get someone else to do it, but then that becomes counterproductive and makes it inaccessible to users, which isn't exactly wiki-easy-and-accessible-to-anyone-friendly.

'''Discord's thoughts:'''

I don't want to speak too much for other people, but the general consensus so far has been to leave the rhyming for the intro paragraph and the image captions, while also archiving the article as it is now with a link at the bottom of the new article or wherever that preserves it as a piece of the wiki's history, that way we can keep at least some form of it, while also working to make it more informative.

Anyways, I've rambled on enough. Let the discussion commence! -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 20:22, 18 January 2022 (EST)
:I agree. Get rid of the rhymes in at least the fiction section. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:08, 19 January 2022 (EST)
:I think something similar to [[Tyroxia]] and [[Tyroxia/trans]] would be a good solution.—[[User:DDog|DDog]] ([[User talk:DDog|talk]]) 16:33, 19 January 2022 (EST)
:The rhyming should be only the intro and the picture captions. Though I don't envy whoever has to wallow through and undo all of that... --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 17:24, 19 January 2022 (EST)
:While I love the gimmick and I consider it pretty integral to the identity of the wiki... as a reader, i try to avoid this page and get any information i'd need from it elsewhere instead. so i think you have a point here, and some reevaluation of the gimmick is probably in order. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 18:13, 19 January 2022 (EST)
:Entirely agreed with this. To quote myself on the Discord: "Yes, we like being The Funny Wiki, but when that gets in the way of Wheelie's page being actually informative or readable then I think that's the point at which the funny should ''not'' stay." --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 18:42, 19 January 2022 (EST)
:I do feel like the rhyming thing could in theory be fine, if it was just ''better'', but a lot of it is neither clearly informative nor good poetry. To quote someone on the Discord, "Wheelies page has weak bars". I'm going to post Tindalos' pitch for how to handle it:
::''Once upon a time this page was made in verse,''
::''We think the new one's fine, but just in case it's worse:''
::''We ask you to forgive us, and that you shouldn't fear,''
::''The archived version with the rhymes can be found right [[Wheelie (G1)/rhyming|here]].''
:This would be perfect imo. —[[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 18:52, 19 January 2022 (EST)
:Agree with removal. I could see leaving the lead and maybe the captions in rhyme, but wouldn't press too hard for either. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 21:32, 19 January 2022 (EST)
:Add another revise-and-archive from me as well. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] ([[User talk:Lonegamer78|talk]]) 22:43, 19 January 2022 (EST)
:You guys are nuts. The criticism that the page "gets in the way of Wheelie's page being actually informative or readable" loses the plot – this is a wiki about a plastic toy from the 1980s, and the Saturday morning commercial made [[to sell toys|to sell it to you]]. I signed up just to make this post, and hopefully that's understood as a meaningful vote form a long-time lurker, than an irrelevant vote from a non-entity. [[User:NOISEMAZE|NOISEMAZE]] ([[User talk:NOISEMAZE|talk]]) 12:27, 20 March 2022 (EDT)
:: Saying "this franchise is just about plastic toys" is not the great argument point you think it is, especially in contrast to the majority of articles that exist on this wiki besides this one. The writing on this page is strained. The toys section is a mess because of attempting to stay in the gimmick while being informative. The IDW section completely loses the nuance of Syndromica by forcing itself under this gimmick. What's "nuts," as you put it, is the fact that this article has continued to be kept in this poor condition long after the joke stopped being funny. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 13:08, 20 March 2022 (EDT)
:::When you say it's "long after the joke stopped being funny," you're talking about how it's received with long-time wiki contributors who, presumably, Demand To Be Taken Seriously. It's a much more useful article in this form for general audiences who, in tiring themselves out in reading this article, eventually realize "wait, why am I reading a wiki article about, of all things, ''Wheelie?''" If this was an article about a character of consequence, it would matter, but I make the 'toy commercial' argument because in this context, it's a strong one. "The IDW section completely loses the nuance of Syndromica" is a set of words that has no meaning to me, so I can enjoy this article for what it is, whereas you're concerned people cannot read up about Wheelie lore. Bless your heart. --[[User:NOISEMAZE|NOISEMAZE]] ([[User talk:NOISEMAZE|talk]]) 16:15, 20 March 2022 (EDT)
::::You have to remember that there is a larger audience that may want to read this article for actual info. Taking your thoughts and opinions on the matter is valuable, but it seems you're not exactly the general audience we were talking about. Yes, Wheelie is an annoying rhyming character in the G1 cartoon, which was a glorified commercial, but the majority of his other appearances aren't like that (e.g. IDW or JG1). The peeps working on the Cyberverse cartoon were all told by Hasbro to come to the wiki for info on characters, because Hasbro doesn't keep any in-house info themselves. So that's another aspect we need to take into consideration: "Is it readable for people who know nothing about Transformers and are actually needing info for future cartoons or films?" -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 20:44, 20 March 2022 (EDT)
::::Alright, first off, don't be fucking cute; it's not endearing, and unlike others here, I'm not nearly as willing to let shit slide. I'm not gonna take any crap from someone whose just signed up to talk shit. Second off, your argument about Wheelie being a "character of no consequence" utterly falls apart when there's hundreds, if not thousands, of articles who could equally be argued to be of the same level of importance and yet who have perfectly normal articles otherwise. Third off, and this is related to the second point, if your whole reasoning for keeping this the way it is boils down to "why should I read an article that is about Wheelie" then why the fuck are you even reading the wiki at all? [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 20:48, 20 March 2022 (EDT)
:::::Fanofcoolstuff and Escargon are right on all points, Noisemaze. And for the record, joining just to antagonize longtime editors (some of whom were responsible or the page as it is now) is not a good look, so I suggest you dial it back lest your stay here be a very short one. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 21:14, 20 March 2022 (EDT)
::::::Yes, Fanofcoolstuff brings up great points. Escargon has slid into vulgarities and condescension in a manner typical of their typical post history, and it's probably worth reviewing whether that behavior is a normal way of interacting with a new member. No one is going to have a good impression of a wiki if their first interaction with a 'longtime editor' is unchecked smarminess. [[User:NOISEMAZE|NOISEMAZE]] ([[User talk:NOISEMAZE|talk]]) 01:14, 21 March 2022 (EDT)
:::::::Pot, meet kettle. And for the record, our policy has always been "We're informative first, funny second." If the humor gets in the way of conveying information in a way that people can easily understand, [[Transformers Wiki:Policies#In articles|it has to go]]. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 03:35, 21 March 2022 (EDT)
:::::::I only started "sliding into vulgarities and condescension" when you decided to be overly familiar and smarmy yourself. You're the one who started off this whole situation by declaring everyone was nuts for making this proposal. By the way, you're whole disaffected "I don't really care about Transformers" shtick would come across a whole lot stronger if it wasn't for the fact that clearly you know enough to know who Noisemaze is. Grow up. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 08:02, 21 March 2022 (EDT)
::::::::Alright, I think we've been at each other's throats enough now. Can we get back to the topic at hand in a much more civilized manner? So far the majority of votes have been '''for''' a change in the article's current format, but I'd be interested to see what Walky or any of the other bigshots have to say on the matter. The sooner we can get the ball rolling on this the better, because Wheelie hasn't appeared in anything too recently (as far as I'm aware) so making the changes before any new info needs adding might be the best time to do it, just to avoid any potential editing conflicts that may occur during such an overhaul. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 09:10, 21 March 2022 (EDT)
That weird little diversion aside, everyone seems in agreement on how to handle things: Leave the lead and captions in rhyme, rewrite everything else in prose, and archive the old version. If anyone wants to get started on de-rhyming it, more power to them. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 15:08, 21 March 2022 (EDT)

===I'd like to dedicate this song to my greatest inspiration: Rhymezone dot com===
The tide seems firmly against this page as it stands, and I agree that a "laconic" (to use the TVTropes term) version of the page needs to exist. I was fully on the side of just archiving the page, because until just this evening, I could break down the total word count of the article like this: 50% of it is salient information about Wheelie. The other 50% is ramblings people wrote to rhyme with that first 50%. So, y'know, obviously the page wasn't working, people would come in when a new toy was announced, dash off a few lines and forget about it.

However. I think Noisemaze raised a salient point that, outside our specific group of people that really care about Transformers, if people know about the TFWiki, the Wheelie page is probably the thing they know about it. It's a single joke dragged out to the point of absurdity, on perhaps the most significant "joke character" of the original movie everyone saw, the toy advert cartoon, saying: don't take this seriously. People put a lot of thought into making the joke happen, and it feels vaguely disresepectful to go in with a hatchet to try and make the joke ''work'', but I guess it feels like that's the lesser evil compared to squirrelling the whole thing away into some subpage, so. I thought I'd give it a go, to give the page one last shot at surviving.

As a proof of concept I've done a major editing pass over the intro, the fiction section (solely through to the end of FFOD—I'll do the rest if people are onboard), the toy section, and the notes. I have cut as much of the bullshit as possible. I have tried to use clear sentence flow and position the key elements of each statement ''on'' the rhyme, in the hopes that the rhyme scheme might even complement the information being communicated. My metre's generally pretty poor, sorry about that—hopefully it's still an improvement. I did the fiction stuff in 2019, but I remember checking the primary sources at the time. Genuinely, I don't think in the stuff I touched there's any meaningful info missing that a laconic version of the page would somehow include: if you spot omissions, please raise them, but if nobody does I think the "the rhyming article will ''necessarily'' omit key information" argument falls apart. Heck, there's some stuff that was missing which I've now added, while still being more succinct.

The other major argument against the page, aside from some people just finding it annoying to read (a laconic version fixes this whether it's the primary or secondary version of the page), is that the rhyme scheme is obstructive to new editors. This is a fair point, but my counterargument is that I don't think it's ''that'' hard—I put a header namedropping Rhymezone for a reason, and this lil rewrite took a few hours max—and there are some things which are just worth the bit of extra hassle, y'know? Besides, it's not like there's gonna be any major revelations about ''Universe'' Wheelie—or any existing Wheelie—any time soon that are going to need existing sections to be edited at all; once they're up to scratch, that's that. Plus, it's seriously worth considering that this is the kind of page that might inspire people to join in with contributing in the first place. Anyway, yeah—does this change any hearts and minds? —[[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 01:23, 22 March 2022 (EDT)
:I remember bringing up on Discord the option to have two variants of the article running simaltaneously, but the majority of voices (iirc) suggested it would be better just to toss the whole thing, which I can see now makes sense because users are always going to gravitate more towards whatever the easiest version of the article to edit is to them, which means some other poor user is still going to have to fill the holes in the other one. Some users (especially new ones) may also not notice that there are two different variants of the article, especially if they've only visited one and not the other, that's part of the reason why we started playing around with transcluded fiction sections for copied info in separate articles, because if one gets edited, the other is bound to be forgotten about due to the user not knowing the same exact info word-for-word exists in another article (e.g. Sixshot/Greatshot's Victory cartoon section).

:But for me now, I still think my mind is unchanged. We're not the same wiki from the 00's that did things for shits and giggles. We've matured and evolved, when compared to the wiki's early days where offensive "edgy" humour was a thing that happened on the regular (I'm not saying Wheelie's article is offensive, it's just an example of the ways that we've grown since the rhyming was first implemented). I also really hate to keep coming back to this point, because it really is stupid that we've become the unpaid Hasbro archive database workers, but I feel we also need to keep in mind how often Hasbro and their licensees etc. frequent this wiki for information, because if something gets screwed up along the way due to a joke that has taken over the page and its info, then that L unfortuantely falls on us too for not providing the accurate info that Hasbro or whoever else is looking for. There are other ways for us to still be funny, I just don't think the funny needs to engulf everything useful with it. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 04:02, 22 March 2022 (EDT)
::While I agree that conveying information has to be our first priority, I think Wads' edits have made the page a ''lot'' more digestible. If the rest can be sufficiently cleaned up to flow much better, I don't see a huge issue with leaving this as the primary version of the page, so long as we also have a secondary laconic version available with a ''very'' visible link to it right at the top of the page. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 04:32, 22 March 2022 (EDT)
:::I'm all for retaining Wadapan's cleaner, better-flowing rhyming version as the main. I mean, I periodically check the socials when I'm bored, and Wheelie's page being in rhyme STILL gets brought up as one of the things that people who aren't super-duper-invested in this love and cite as one of the reasons this wiki is "the best". I dunno about you, but it feels like killing that is... not great. 
:::The only caveat is I might argue that, for layout reasons, it might be best to halve the page's "physical" length by putting the two rhyming lines as a single line. The white space has always rankled, I just never had the energy to go about fixing that since it'd also have likely involved, well, what Wadapan is doing now. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 04:42, 22 March 2022 (EDT)
::::That's a good idea. I'll do it now for the main body, but leave the captions split into two lines since that makes more sense for the limited space of the image box. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 04:49, 22 March 2022 (EDT)

:"Anyway, yeah—does this change any hearts and minds?" No, not particularity in my case. I still feel like the more time that goes on, and as more things happen with Wheelie, the more we bend over backwards to make this article work. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 06:47, 22 March 2022 (EDT)
::I'd been on the fence, but wads' rewrites have sufficiently convinced me that it's viable to keep the rhyming on the main version. I agree with Sipher that the article does have a lot of value as a sort of "mascot page", and it's worth trying our best to "save" it, even if it does represent a bit more effort than the average article. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 08:08, 22 March 2022 (EDT)
:::I personally think we're still straining the amount of people who can edit the article though. Just because Wads can write better rhymes, doesn't mean all of the other average wiki users can, which still defeats the purpose of a wiki which is supposed to be easy enough for anyone to pick up. When a bunch of long-time users have come out saying that they either actively avoid editing or reading the article, that's when I feel we need to start taking these things into consideration. I also can't see Wads or anyone else wanting to dedicate a huge chunk of their time on a single article for the rest of eternity because no one else can do it, especially given that the majority of edits from the last few years have mostly been typo and link fixes or adding foreign names and voice actors (things that don't involve rhyming at all), hence why the article has been in poor shape for the longest time—it's because no one wants to do it! Lol. If we really want to keep this as the "mascot article" and keep all of the rhyming, then there also has to be someone or a team of someones willing to keep it to the same standard anytime something new is added, otherwise the article we're trying to convince everyone ''can'' rhyme, make sense ''and'' be informative, yet doesn't follow any of this criteria because no one is regularly checking up on new edits with poor attempts at rhyming by other people who aren't so good at it, then this attempt at salvaging the article would just be in vain and we'd just be back here re-opening the discussion in another year or so (just look at the rest of this talk page, this isn't the first time the topic of de-rhyming has been brought up).

:::Also quick sidenote: if the leaks are true, we are likely to get a Core Class (fully transformable) '86 Wheelie in Studio Series at some point in the not too distant future, so we'll have another toy to list, which could also potentially lead to more fiction via JG1 or IDW2 or any other concurrent piece of fiction that may use toy-accurate artwork in it. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 09:24, 22 March 2022 (EDT)
::::Is there anything stopping those editors from adding the stuff immediately to the laconic version, and then throwing a stub template on the main version saying "Though we haven't quite yet written up this verse, on / The other page there's already a laconic version"? But I bet that wouldn't even be necessary. I wouldn't dedicate a huge chunk of my time to this article forever, but what I was saying is that I'm making an easy gamble that there ''won't'' be major G1 Wheelie content (i.e., if he shows up in a cartoon or movie, that'll be on its own continuity page, and new toys are less than once a year on average). There's a possibility that a hypothetical new comic would, for some reason, give Wheelie a star turn, and even that would be an issue a month max for a limited time. But why would you scrap the article now, based on that hypothetical, instead of just revisiting it when it matters? The only reason I didn't do this back in 2019 was that I felt vaguely uncomfortable rewriting ''so much'' of what people had already done, and when I started, people were lukewarm on the idea, so. Evidently I should've just gone ahead and done it! If it's what it takes to keep the page live, no really, please do @ me for the rest of time whenever there's new content with the funy little guy. Like I say, I think some things are worth a bit of extra work. —[[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 09:56, 22 March 2022 (EDT)
:::::I think people are VASTLY overestimating the amount of future editing this page is gonna need. Like, ever. Seriously, most of these pages go a very, very, very long time untouched outside of some technical editing like link-fixing. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:44, 22 March 2022 (EDT)

For all the talk about people seeing this as a "mascot" article, there's plenty of evidence above that multiple, non-longtime editors and readers are equally frustrated with this article being the way it is. If we're gonna take outside opinion into any consideration into this article, we really shouldn't say that reception on this article comes down one way or another.
My frustration with this page has always been that it's impossible to talk about anything in any substantive detail, and IDW's section in particular. You can say that he's a minor character and as such it doesn't matter, but we have hundreds of character articles about those who have done less and are more detailed than this. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 13:15, 22 March 2022 (EDT)
:Yeah, I think people are getting way too attached to some online comments that clearly didn't care about how informative the article actually is. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:25, 22 March 2022 (EDT)
::The "outside" opinion on this article is decidedly that it's funny. Internally there's a split. I haven't gotten to IDW's section yet, but I've been working through the Sunbow cartoon today, and I've very much proven that it is not at all "impossible" to communicate substantive detail here. Check out the summary for "[[Surprise Party]]" I've just finished, and tell me—what have I missed? If anything, there's too much granular detail now, the kind of thing we've scrubbed from other write-ups—but I think it's an accurate, efficient, and readable summary of a 20 minute effectively-spotlight on Wheelie, one of the most substantive roles he's had. Surely the same treatment for the likes of Syndromica would be acceptable? —[[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 17:19, 22 March 2022 (EDT)
:::Look at the contributions above from the likes of "Gretnablue" and "TheGreenGardenOfTWST", one of who has only edited one other article, and one whose only contribution is on this talk page. And that's just two people who decided to sign up here, I'm sure if I went to look elsewhere I could find plenty more. There is no "decidedly" here. I think it's utterly ridiculous that we're prioritizing "what looks funny to outsiders" over "is this article easy for those actually contributing to the wiki to work with?" As for how it is; yes, it technically flows better and is inclusive in its details, but I still find it incredibly annoying to read in such a manner. I can say for my part that if I want to find out something Wheelie's done in a story for any of the annotations I've written up, I would sooner go to the story page than go to this article. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 17:23, 22 March 2022 (EDT)
::::Re: "The outside opinion", I think there's a difference between finding this page a funny novelty and actually trying to read it. I don't think anybody commenting on the funny actually cares about deriving useful information on Wheelie. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 18:01, 22 March 2022 (EDT)
:::::I second this. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 07:59, 23 March 2022 (EDT)
A rhyming Wheelie page is our IDENTITY. If that's not a tone that you like then I would very strongly suggest you find another wiki somewhere. I hear they're free on Wikia, go start your own.--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 18:20, 22 March 2022 (EDT)
: I mean, the ''tone'' isn't ever what people've had a problem with--it's purely a matter of practicality and not making the page actively painful to read with awful rhymes that don't convey the required information. Wads' rewrites are a significant improvement, but I'm still not entirely convinced that it's a permanent solution. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 19:15, 22 March 2022 (EDT)
:Would you be opposed to a boring version of the page suited out, or would that be an okay compromise? —[[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 19:41, 22 March 2022 (EDT)
::I agree with both Saix and Broadside's latest statements. I would also be fine with an easier version of the article to edit, but what I said last night about contributions only ever being made to one version of the article over the other, is a very real scenario that will most likely happen, which means one could potentially end up being a stub for a very long time until someone notices. It just seems like a lot of upkeep that'll only cause more problems in the future. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 20:01, 22 March 2022 (EDT)
Has anyone else ever read an old book that had those chapter introductory paragraphs? (Like "Chapter 1 - In which our hero buys a croissant and goes to work.") I was thinking that each fiction section could have a short quatrain summing up Wheelie in that continuity, followed by a detailed prose write up. Does that sound interesting to anyone else? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 07:59, 23 March 2022 (EDT)
:PS - super short sections could still be all poetry. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 08:00, 23 March 2022 (EDT)
::Do you think you could whip up something in a sandbox as an example of how it would look for a fiction section? Doesn't have to be anything fancy if you're not that well versed in rhyming, but you've kinda peaked my interest lol. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 08:07, 23 March 2022 (EDT)
::Ooo, I just had an idea myself, what if we kept the writing and made a collapsible element under each section with a full in-depth prose version of the write up? (aka the "boring" version). That way it saves on having two versions of the article and readers can still have the option to read an easier to understand version. I'll whip up a proof of concept in a sandbox myself, and if it is given the green light, we could possibly look at converting that collapsible code into a template to save on page size, otherwise a bunch of full lines of collapsible code, along with the write up, is gonna beef the page up ''real'' quick. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 08:18, 23 March 2022 (EDT)
:::Alright, as stated above, '''[[User:Fanofcoolstuff27/sandbox/Wheelie (G1)/proof of concept|here]]''' is my proof of concept. The first example is just having the collapsible element with no text, just the "<nowiki>[Expand]</nowiki>" box, while the second example includes a small piece of text indicating what the collapsible element is for. "Transcript" may not be the right word I'm looking for, but as the sandbox states, it's 2 AM here at the moment, so I'm pretty tired. Let me know your thoughts on this idea. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 09:02, 23 March 2022 (EDT)
:::I'm not in favor of multiple versions of the page ''nor'' multiple versions of any section of it. Any of that would just increase the editing overhead even more. The only solution that would lighten said load is to trash or archive the rhyming version and we can't do that, so I say the rhyming should stay as-is. [[User:Iacon0|Iacon0]] ([[User talk:Iacon0|talk]]) 09:23, 23 March 2022 (EDT)
:::Two pages is preferable if we absolutely have to keep the rhyme joke. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 09:35, 23 March 2022 (EDT)
:::I'm personally now ambivalent as to whether there should be a laconic version at all. From the perspective of the camp that thinks there shouldn't, the concrete benefit of this proposal is that the rhyming/boring versions will be ''side by side'' in the editor window, in theory reinforcing that both should be kept in sync. From the perspective that thinks there should be a laconic version somehow, I think Version 1 is really neat, unobtrusive, and effective, though the drawback is that a reader who finds the rhyming stuff annoying would probably have to hit "expand" a bunch of times for each part individually, which seems extremely annoying in its own right...? So, neutral vote, just weighing the effects as I see them. (Getting more into subjective stuff, I do think it seems quite... insecure, to have tons of little marks on the page saying "haha,,,, just kidding"? Part of the idea behind the page, in my eyes, is that it gets the reader to engage with Wheelie's language, see the world as he sees it.) —[[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 10:53, 23 March 2022 (EDT)
::::You're last part is where I have to disagree. The point of the wiki, irregardless of whether it engages with humor or not, is to provide information about concepts, characters, series, etc. first and foremost. It's one thing to have a joke page (which, I should note, I've never minded the proposal to have two versions of the article, just so long as the prose one is linked and prominent), but to treat this article as some sort of chance to implement a "storytelling device" completely conflicts with the wiki's mission statement. Our goal isn't getting readers to see how Wheelie sees; our goal is to give our readers information about who Wheelie is, what he's done in fiction, what toys he's had, and what behind-the-scenes information is on him. And if we come at this from the perspective of "how Wheelie sees the world" (which again I'm very much against), what do we do then for areas like the Headmasters, where he does not rhyme? [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 11:00, 23 March 2022 (EDT)
:::::I'm saying that I personally think the device is ''by nature'' informative. But yeah, you've already made it quite clear you personally see no value in the gimmick, so I won't argue that further. As for ''Headmasters''... do we even have a decent translation of the show? Because if not, I'm not sure I'll be able to do much with those sections. Thankfully from a rhyme perspective they're already pretty readable, the question is whether they're comprehensive on an information level. Seeing as he doesn't rhyme in that series, I guess I'd be fine with them specifically being in normal prose, sure, but that still requires someone who's able to sit down with the primary source. —[[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 11:30, 23 March 2022 (EDT)
::::::The currently available Headmasters subs are adequate for writing up character summaries ("Wheelie went to X", etc.). You just can't put too much stock in dialogue specifics. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 12:52, 23 March 2022 (EDT)
:::::::I’m not arguing about the gimmick at this point, I recognize that it’s not going anywhere soon. What I’m against is the notion of this or any article using a gimmick as a story-telling device, because I think it’s against the wiki’s purposes. In any case, I am absolutely against us ditching a prose format article; I’ve pushed for it for years and I’m not giving up on it now, even if it has to exist alongside the rhyming page. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 16:54, 23 March 2022 (EDT)

So it's been over a month, I'm not gonna pretend we're going to change the main page anytime soon, but I sure would like to see the regular version be something that's implemented and not be something that, you know, is thrown out after years of people pushing for it because we suddenly changed our minds at the last possible second. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 00:10, 8 May 2022 (EDT)
:Escargon, I agree with you, and I have my own complaints about this page related to my eyes and how they have an issue that makes it really hard to sit and read this page. If you want help sandboxing a new "normal" page DM me on Discord and we can start working on something. My user is the same on the server as it is here. [[User:Paladin Denn|Paladin Denn]] ([[User talk:Paladin Denn|talk]]) 01:48, 8 May 2022 (EDT)

It's been another month or so. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 10:34, 15 June 2022 (EDT)
:I keep bringing this up because I flat-out refuse to give up on this issue that I have been fighting half a decade to address just because we came up with a better rhyme scheme for the page. I've begged and pleaded for a prose version of this page for ''years''. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 10:35, 17 June 2022 (EDT)
::Ultimately, like everything else on the wiki, it comes down to someone having both the time and energy to actually do it, and the amount of both required to completely redo the page from scratch is a big ask of anyone. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 10:14, 17 June 2022 (EDT)
::: Right now I'm not wanting anyone to go ahead right away and do it, I'm just want to make sure we have official permission so that when someone does get around to it everyone will be on the same page. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 07:50, 7 July 2022 (EDT)
::: (And, you know, everyone was ready to go ahead with de-rhyming until the slightest amount of backlash.) [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:20, 12 July 2022 (EDT)
::::You don't need permission to start a sandbox. You're more than welcome to try your hand at building one, and it's a lot easier to make a point about the effectiveness of a second page if you have a proof of concept for comparison. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 21:31, 12 July 2022 (EDT)
::::: I'm not asking for permission about a sandbox, I'm asking so that someone doesn't come along and freak out later when the work has already been mostly done, because every single time a big change like this one happens, someone does when the work is 90% finished. The moving of portions of GoBots and IDW Hasbro stuff on the wiki, the moving of the various JG1 characters to a consistent (G1) identifier, and so on; I don't want to sit through an argument over this. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 17:54, 16 July 2022 (EDT)

Forget it. Whatever, man. This isn't going anywhere and I'm not going to waste time on it when all I get on here is grief. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:17, 29 July 2022 (EDT)

== Please... I literally created an account to BEG somebody to make a prose version of this page. ==

I have mild dyslexia and this page is utterly impossible for me to read- I have absolutely no idea what this character is, other than somebody put some admittedly hard work into making this page impossible to read. Is he a child? Why is this written like this when he's not always a character that rhymes? Why can't the rhyming jokes just stay to the image description texts, like so many other jokes on other pages?
Please. I can see this has been a point of contention on the site before- but I am a user that has been combing this site rather religiously for the last year, and this is the only page I absolutely have zero comprehension for.
It's like trying to read Beowulf- it's not meant to be a silent story, it's meant to be orated, and when it's simply written, it's... too much. {{unsigned|Quasarwake}}

Ms. Marvel

2025-12-03T20:38:56Z

Alientraveller: /* Notes */

:''Ms. Marvel is a [[human]] from [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]].''
[[File:Msmarvel.jpg|thumb|SHAZAM! No, wait. I was thinking of someone else. Never mind.]]
'''Ms. Marvel''', real name '''Carol Danvers''', is a superheroine. Her flight, invulnerability, and strength arise from her half-[[Kree]] genetics.

==Fiction==
===2005 IDW continuity===
During her superheroic career, Ms. Marvel was once subject to mind control. The experience left her with a bit of a phobia against it. She also spent some time travelling space with the [[Starjammers]], where she discovered whole planets that have been devastated. She didn't know it at the time, but the devastation was a result of the [[Decepticon]]s conquering the planet and stripping it of resources. {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part Two}}

[[File:RatchetandMarvel-ManandMachine2.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|left|EMBIGGEN— wait, no, sorry, that's the other one...]]
Ms. Marvel and the [[Falcon (Marvel)|Falcon]] answered the call to help the [[Avengers]] in [[Latveria]]. When the [[Autobot]]s appeared, Ms. Marvel joined the others in attacking them, her aggressive tendencies augmented by the Decepticons' [[Psycho-Prism]]. {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part One}} Revelling in her newly uninhibited Kree bloodlust, Ms. Marvel attacked [[Ratchet (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ratchet]], but was immobilized by his airbag. After Ratchet planted an inhibitor device on [[Captain America]] to counter the Prism's effects, he called off the attack; Ms. Marvel was unwilling to use the devices, and had to be put down by [[Doctor Doom]]. Despite an explanation of the Prism by Doom, Carol was still unwilling to use the inhibitor until they were vetted by newly arrived Avenger [[Iron Man]]. Now allied with both the Autobots and Doom, Ms. Marvel and the Avengers attempted to penetrate the Decepticons' [[Array]] to rescue [[Spider-Man]], but to no avail—until the fortress' walls opened up to reveal a team of Decepticons in [[mirror response mode]]! {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part Two}}

In the battle that ensued, Ms. Marvel and the Falcon found themselves overwhelmed by the Decepticons' aerial warriors, but managed to turn the tide thanks to a Captain America-piloted [[Quinjet]] and an Autobot-boosted Iron Man. Before they could celebrate their victory, however, their opponents dealt them a crushing blow; a holographic transmission revealed that [[Megatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Megatron]] and Doom had joined forces and taken Ratchet, [[Prowl (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Prowl]], Spider-Man, and [[Luke Cage]] hostage, vowing to kill them if their teammates did not surrender. Carol sided with [[Bumblebee (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Bumblebee]] and Cap in their willingness to sacrifice the hostages to prevent a [[Symkaria]]n-Latverian war, but [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Optimus Prime]] proposed another solution... {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part Three}}

Outside the Array, Carol confronted Megatron with her allies. With the hostages successfully freed and the Psycho-Prism destroyed, the Avengers and Autobots decisively beat the Decepticons, forcing them to flee. {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part Four}}
{{-}}

==Notes==
*Ms. Marvel was co-created by [[Gerry Conway]].
*Carol Danvers has previously been played by ''Transformers'' alumni [[Grey Griffin]] and [[Erica Lindbeck]].
*In case you were wondering, Carol Danvers's prominent live-action moniker "Captain Marvel" was first used by her in the comics in 2012, many years after the above ''Transformers'' story was published.

==External links==
*[[wikia:marvel:Carol Danvers (Earth-616)|Carol Danvers]] at Marvel Database
*{{w|Carol Danvers}} at Wikipedia

[[Category:IDW (2005) humans]]
[[Category:Marvel characters]]
[[Category:Superheroes]]

Vector Sigma

2025-11-16T22:16:54Z

Alientraveller: /* See also */ Vector Theta link

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[[File:VectorSigmaG1.jpg|upright=2.2|thumb|A Clockwork Orange]]

'''Vector Sigma''' is an ancient and incredibly powerful super-computer that dwells at the heart of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Built to serve as a link between the [[Transformer]]s and their god [[Primus]], it is one of the fabled [[sacred treasure]]s that grants access to the [[Transformer afterlife]], giving it a vast storehouse of wisdom, and the power to grant new Transformers [[spark|life]]. The computer maintains the functions of the planet while Primus sleeps within it, and frequently acts out his will to shape Cybertron's future. Multiple incarnations of Vector Sigma exist across the multiverse; in most universes, the computer typically takes the form of a faceted sphere, and is often tended by the Autobot sage, [[Alpha Trion]].

Vector Sigma has no allegiance in the Transformers' war; it can be commanded by anyone who wields its [[Key to Vector Sigma|activation key]], which on its own has the power to convert organic substances into [[living metal|metal]]. However, centuries in the future, by the time of the [[Maximal]]s and [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]], some incarnations of Vector Sigma are known to have evolved beyond physical form into the immaterial [[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]], and now requires a "receptive spark" to access its power.

{{quote|I am Vector Sigma. Before Cybertron was, I was.|Vector Sigma upon activation|"[[The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1]]"}}

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
{{voiceactor|[[Corey Burton]] (English), [[Toshiro Ishii]] (Japanese)|[[Henry Djanik]] (European French), [[Marcos Miranda]] (Brazilian Portuguese)}}

[[File:Ktvs prime and trion.jpg|left|thumb|Alpha Trion telling Optimus about the benefits of Brilliant]]

Described as the "mega-computer" which gave all Transformers life, Vector Sigma resided in a spherical chamber deep within the planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Its origins were unknown, save for the cryptic sentence it spoke upon being activated, whereupon it pronounces that before Cybertron existed, it did. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1}} No direct connection between Vector Sigma and the Transformers' creators the [[Quintesson]]s would ever be drawn, but it's not illogical to presume that the aliens must have used Vector Sigma to program their robots. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4}}

In 1985, seeking to combat the [[Autobot]]s' rule of the roads, [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] created the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]] and brought them to Cybertron with the intent of having Vector Sigma program them with true cybernetic personalities. Requiring Vector Sigma's [[Key to Vector Sigma|activation key]] to bring the computer online, he stole it from [[Alpha Trion]] and successfully completed his plan. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1}} In retaliation, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] constructed his own new team, the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], but Megatron had already returned to Earth with the key still in his clutches, leaving the Autobots unable to reactivate Vector Sigma. As a first-generation product of Vector Sigma, Alpha Trion shared the mega-computer's computation matrix, and sacrificed himself by merging his lifeforce with it. This action reactivated the computer long enough for Optimus Prime to instruct it to program the Aerialbots with life.

Shortly thereafter, it was revealed that the key possessed another power—the bizarre ability to generate an energy beam that "de-energizes" organic matter, transforming it into lifeless metal. Megatron attempted to use this power to turn Earth into a new Cybertron, but his plans were thwarted and the key destroyed. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 2}}

After draining the energies of the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to cure the [[Hate Plague]] in 2006, Optimus Prime began to suffer premonitions of some unseen future disaster. Believing that these visions were coming to pass with the Decepticons' theft of the [[Key to the Plasma Energy Chamber|key]] to the [[Plasma Energy Chamber]], {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 1}} Prime used the empty shell of the Matrix to reactivate Vector Sigma, so that he could communicate with the spirit of Alpha Trion, still living within the computer, in hopes that the old sage could provide answers. Alpha Trion indicated that the recent conflict that had erupted around the Chamber had, in fact, been engineered by Vector Sigma as a means of bringing about a new Golden Age of Cybertron. {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 2}} The plan ultimately succeeded when the chamber's energies were released, forcing Earth's sun to go supernova, only for the excess solar energy to be rerouted into Vector Sigma by [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] and the Autobots' [[Nebulan]] allies, thereby re-energizing the planet. {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 3|The Rebirth, Part 3}}

====''A Birth of Planet Saybertron''====
Vector Sigma was originally a computer built within a mere satellite. It was the result of the greatest minds of a coalition of planets coming together to assemble an instrument that would ensure peace between their civilizations. But the computer malfunctioned, and the satellite begun drawing in materials from other satellites to build itself up. Those who had built the computer tried to stop it, but found themselves unable to defeat the rapidly-evolving machine. Cybertron came to strip its galactic neighborhood of its resources, extinguishing the life of its creators. Over time, primitive machines sprung from it, eventually evolving into the Transformers. {{storylink|A Birth of Planet Saybertron}}

====Japanese cartoon continuity====
{{main|Primus#Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity}}

Vector Sigma was one identity of the multi-faceted god [[Primus]]. After his stint as [[Primacron]]'s assistant, the Oracle, Primus's essence within the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] fled to a desolate planet in the center of the galaxy which he made into a verdant world and where his form converted into the sphere later known as Vector Sigma. When the [[Quintesson]]s took over the planet, they sealed Primus within Vector Sigma and controlled it using the Key to Vector Sigma that they also used to convert the planet to a mechanical world. From Vector Sigma came the robotic Transformers, who chased their cruel masters off the planet.

Millions of years later, the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] reached Vector Sigma, who was tasked with creating more soldiers for the Autobots and the Decepticons. After Megatron stole the Key, ancient Transformer Alpha Trion was forced to give his life in activating Vector Sigma for the Autobots and the Key was destroyed shortly after. Decades later, the Matrix was sapped of energy in fighting the [[Hate Plague]], destabilizing Vector Sigma and eventually forcing Optimus Prime himself to sacrifice his life by merging with the computer to return it to normal. Soon afterwards, Vector Sigma began developing [[Cybertonuron]], which attracted the attention of Galvatron, but rival Scorponok had bombs planted in Vector Sigma's chambers that detonated and brought ruin to Cybertron.

Vector Sigma survived, and tasked the [[Disaster Relief Team]] with rebuilding the planet. It became embroiled in a plot by Unicron to take Cybertron as his new body, but Vector Sigma was able to help its children repel the invader. The computer was soon attacked again, this time by the Fallen, who sought its power of creation, but was saved by the efforts of Autobots from across space and time.

Centuries after the Great War ended, Vector Sigma hid itself under its other identity of the Oracle, and led [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]] to bring about the [[Great Transformation|reformatting of Cybertron into a technorganic world]]. This led to another renewal of Vector Sigma that appointed itself the "God of Transformers" and the ultimate authority of Cybertron. When the threat of a revived Unicron emerged tens of thousands of years later, Vector Sigma took an interest in [[Big Convoy]] and his [[Big Convoy Unit|unit]], encouraging them by speaking through its link to Big Convoy's Energon Matrix. Unicron managed to possess Vector Sigma to take control of Cybertron, but the united efforts of Maximal and Predacon vanquished Unicron's spirit. Vector Sigma would go on to support the [[Dimensional Patrol]], led by one of Vector Sigma's creations, [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Fire Convoy]].

====''Wings Universe''====
Alpha Trion used Vector Sigma to bring [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] to life. {{storylink|Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 44|''Wings Universe'' Jhiaxus bio}}

===''Beast Wars'' cartoon continuity===
====''Beast Machines'' cartoon====
{{voiceactor|[[Carol Savenkoff]] (English), [[Nobutoshi Canna]] (Japanese)|[[Emanuela Damasio]] (Italian), [[Martina Treger]] (German)}}
{{main|Oracle (BM)}}
[[File:Oracle (The Reformatting).jpg|thumb|225px|The Oracle usually appears outwardly like a ball of "outer space", but many things can be displayed on its fluid surface. A swirling mass of sparks is another common visual.]]

Three hundred years after the end of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] between the Autobots and Decepticons, Vector Sigma had evolved, transcending physical form to become the [[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]], a huge, immaterial sphere of light. It had long since fallen into legend, remembered only as the computer that predated the Cybertronian race, until it was rediscovered by [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]] and his small band of [[Maximal]]s while they were on the run from [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]], who had conquered the entire planet. To protect Primal's Maximals from the effects of the [[transformation virus]] Megatron had used to conquer Cybertron, the Oracle reformatted them into new [[technorganic]] forms {{storylink|The Reformatting}}

[[File:Vector sigma core.jpg|left|225px|thumb|A Diagnostic Drone interfaces with the Vector Sigma core, which appears very similar to the Generation 1 Vector Sigma.]]

Through the Oracle, Optimus Primal communed with the [[Transformer afterlife|Allspark]], the extradimensional source of all Transformer life to which the computer was connected, and believed that it was the will of the Allspark that Cybertron be restored to its organic beginnings. {{storylink|Survivor}} In truth, Primal was incorrect—the Oracle actually desired a ''balance'' between the organic and the technological—but it would take the disastrous unleashing of the power buried within the computer to make him realize this. When Megatron's treacherous general, [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]], discovered that Vector Sigma and the Oracle were one and the same, he used the sparkless [[Diagnostic Drone]] to circumvent the Oracle's "receptive spark" requirement, tapping into the Oracle's "Vector Sigma core" and acquiring from it the code for the mega-computer's legendary key. {{storylink|The Key}} When Optimus next attempted to contact the Oracle, he found himself unable to do so, due to Tankor's tampering. {{storylink|The Catalyst}}

Tankor proceeded to arm his [[Tank Drone]]s with the power of the Key to Vector Sigma, intending to use it to scour Cybertron of all traces of organic matter, but soon discovered that Megatron had taken control of the drones away from him. In order to trick Megatron into unleashing the key, Tankor had the Diagnostic Drone tap the Oracle once more and send Optimus Prime a false vision, guiding him to the [[Plasma Energy Chamber]]. Tankor gambled that Primal would never unleash the Chamber's descructive energy, but that the ''threat'' of it in his control would goad Megatron into activating the key. Tankor gambled wrong; after Megatron triggered the key, Optimus retaliated by unleashing the power of the chamber, and two energies violently cancelled each other out. {{storylink|End of the Line}} Primal was killed by the energy backlash and travelled to the Allspark, but chose not to join it, now understanding what the Oracle truly desired. Primal returned to reality via the Oracle, and the computer vanished. {{storylink|Fallout (episode)|Fallout}} Though, it was anomalously visible again a few times. {{storylink|A Wolf in the Fold}} {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. I: The Strike|The Strike}} {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. III: The Siege|The Siege}}

It would be some time before Primal realized it, but the Oracle had, in fact, transplanted itself into Primal's body. Megatron was first to realize this and targeted Primal, tricking him with a hologram of Optimus Prime and downloading a portion of the Oracle for himself. {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. II: The Search|The Search}} Using the power of the Oracle, Megatron attempted to merge all the sparks he had stolen from Cybertron's population with his own, but Primal's Maximals halted his scheme. {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. III: The Siege|The Siege}}

Optimus sought to consult with the Oracle one last time before his final showdown against Megatron's forces. The Oracle informed Primal that he already held the wisdom and strength of conviction to triumph and see Cybertron through to its destiny. It then relayed the strength of the sparks contained within the Matrix to give the Maximals new powers, to aid them in the upcoming confrontation. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. II: When Legends Fall|When Legends Fall}} As it would soon turn out, the Oracle had actually orchestrated this entire scenario, so that Optimus Primal and Megatron would both control a portion of its power: with its power split thusly, neither one would be able to obtain their goal without the other. It was Optimus Primal who ultimately claimed victory, driving Megatron into Cybertron's organic core and sacrificing both of them as he activated the Oracle and triggered a planet-wide reformatting of Cybertron into a technorganic paradise. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future|Seeds of the Future}}
{{--}}

====3H comics====
The Oracle was revealed to be a shell program constructed by the [[Quintesson]]s millions of years ago, in an attempt to harness the power of Vector Sigma (which the Quintesson [[Al-badur]] described as "the ultimate physical embodiment" of Primus) and cut off its connection to the Transformers it birthed. Using the Oracle, the Quintessons allegedly fed Optimus Primal the visions and information necessary to orchestrate the technorganic reformatting of Cybertron, believing that it would leave the Cybertronians weak and disoriented, opening the planet up to an easy conquest. {{storylink|Disclosure}} In actuality, however, it was the Quintessons themselves who were being manipulated, by Primus, who used the greedy aliens to instigate this great evolutionary leap for his children. {{storylink|Wreckers: Finale Part II}}

===''Beast Wars Neo'' comic===
[[File:BWN manga Great Convoy.jpg|thumb|]]
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===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===
Vector Sigma was the internal computer of Primus, which he used to analyze what was happening in the universe via information gained from the [[Sonic Canyons]]. {{storylink|Transformers: The Ultimate Guide}} After taking control of Cybertron, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] attempted to access Vector Sigma and download its information, but concluded that he needed the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to initiate an uplink. Capturing Optimus Prime, he forcibly removed the Matrix from the [[Prime (rank)|Autobot leader]] and initiated a complete download. {{storylink|War and Peace}} However, the information was so great that it overwhelmed Shockwave's multiple secondary computers, spilling into whatever available memory it could find, including the as yet-to-be activated [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]]. {{storylink|Transformers: Generation 1 (Dreamwave)|Generation One}}

===2001 ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon===
[[File:ForcedFusion RID vectorsigma.jpg|thumb|left|Is this from ''Transformers'' or ''Bubble Bobble''?]]
[[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]] was chosen by "the Allspark", Vector Sigma, to carry the [[Matrix of Leadership]] and lead the Autobots. {{storylink|Ultra Magnus: Forced Fusion!}}

===''Animated'' cartoon===
Like the more famous [[AllSpark]], Vector Sigma possessed the ability to create new [[spark]]s. Following the loss of the AllSpark during the [[Great War (Animated)|Great War]], the victorious Autobots used Vector Sigma to continue the growth of the Cybertronian race. {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The Allspark Almanac II}}

===Live-action film series===
[[File:VectorSigma-DOTM.jpg|thumb|Yep, this is very live-action film-y looking, yessirree.]]
The great historian [[Alpha Trion]] preserved important datatracks from Vector Sigma, the "Cybertronian Database". Some of these datatracks told of a handful of battles on the planet [[Earth]]. {{storylink|Transformers: Cyber Missions|Cyber Missions}} Vector Sigma also, more appropriately, held records of the Transformer race's long history, its artifacts and terminology, and its most important combatants.<ref>Transformers.com's ''Dark of the Moon'' website</ref>
 

===Aligned continuity family===
====''The Covenant of Primus''====
[[File:COP-VectorSigmaAlphaTrion.jpg|thumb|left|]]
A prototype of Vector Sigma was utilized by the [[Thirteen]] to simulate battle strategies against [[Unicron#Aligned continuity family|Unicron]]. The full-scale model was created after the Chaos Bringer's defeat and before the War of the Primes. Unlike the device that would much later become the [[Matrix of Leadership]], Vector Sigma would remain unchanged over the eons.

During the [[Age of Rust]], Alpha Trion went to Vector Sigma to try and acquire the Matrix hoping to reignite the lost fire of Cybertronian society. Vector Sigma refused, saying the time was not right, but gave him the [[Badge of Vector Prime]] instead. {{storylink|Transformers: The Covenant of Primus|The Covenant of Primus}}

====Aligned novels====
Vector Sigma had become a myth. Many believed it was located within the [[Sonic Canyons]], although a few of Cybertron's elite knew it was located beneath [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]]. When the [[Decepticon]]s bombed the Sonic Canyons, they bombed the area where an entrance to Vector Sigma was said to be located, causing outrage among Cybertronians. When the Autobots left Cybertron on the ''[[Ark (WFC)|Ark]]'', [[Alpha Trion]] opted to remain behind, believing the computer would keep him alive. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}

According to [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]], the [[Matrix of Leadership]] had been given to him by Vector Sigma. {{storylink|Transformers: Exiles|Exiles}}

Shockwave eventually found Vector Sigma and tried to use Alpha Trion as a substitute key, only to learn the ancient Prime had looped a false access code around his necrocortex. Undeterred, Shockwave began pumping [[Dark Energon]] into the computer to try and override its security despite Alpha Trion's protestations. His plans were stopped by the [[Wreckers]] rescuing Trion, but the Prime despaired as Shockwave's experiments had attracted something [[Quintesson|monstrous]] to Cybertron. {{storylink|Transformers: Retribution|Retribution}}

====''Prime'' cartoon====
[[File:OrionPaxPart3 Vector Sigma.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|“The Wheel of Power is the key that will open the way back to the Accelerons”]]
The entrance to Vector Sigma was, unbeknownst to the [[Decepticon]]s, located beneath their capital of [[Kaon (polity)|Kaon]]. It remained there untouched throughout the [[Great War (Prime)|Great War]] until [[Jack Darby]] and [[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee]] followed the [[Key to Vector Sigma]] to it. In the chamber below the planet's surface, Jack used the Key to activate the supercomputer and began to download the contents of the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. Despite an attack of [[scraplet]]s, the download was successful, and Vector Sigma disappeared back into the depths. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 3}}

===2005 IDW continuity===
[[File:ChaosGalvatronVectorSigma.jpg|thumb|left|"I did it thirty-five minutes ago."]]

In the Cybertronians' creation myth, [[Guiding Hand|their gods]] went to war against one of their own, [[Mortilus|the god of death]], and the light-bringer Primus was so badly wounded that he had to merge with Cybertron itself in order to survive. He reformatted himself into Vector Sigma, the life-giving supercomputer in the core of the planet. {{storylink|Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations}} Another tale put forth the idea that Primus had fashioned Vector Sigma as his crypt in preparing for his physical demise. {{storylink|The Everlasting Voices (2): The God War|The God War}}

Whatever its true origin, Vector Sigma became the source of new Transformer life in Cybertron's early era by periodically sending out pulsewaves that ignited new [[hot spot (phenomenon)|hot spot]]s of [[spark]]s across the planet and the moons. Following the [[First Cybertronian Civil War]] however, these waves began to grow less frequent and eventually ceased, forcing [[Nova Prime]] to extract new sparks from the [[Matrix of Leadership]] instead. {{storylink|Remain in Light 3 of 5: The Divided Self|The Divided Self}}

Vector Sigma would continue to serve as Cybertron's primary source of [[energon]], and the religious myths surrounding it caused many to believe it was a miracle machine that would continue to provide them with energy forever. [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Shockwave]], on the other hand, thought the computer to be part of a system that wasn't designed to handle the sprawling metropolis Cybertron had become thanks to Nova Prime's population boost, and feared that it would eventually run dry. {{storylink|Shockwaves}} His prediction apparently came true, as Cybertron was eventually crippled by widespread energon shortage. {{storylink|The Transformers: Autocracy|Autocracy}} {{storylink|The Transformers: Monstrosity|Monstrosity}}

According to [[Alpha Trion]], Vector Sigma was "essentially erased" when Cybertron was rendered a dead and uninhabitable world by the long war and [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]]'s rampage. {{storylink|Ironing Out the Details}}

The psychotic [[Galvatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Galvatron]], being manipulated by the [[D-Void]] through the [[Darkness (G1)|Heart of Darkness]], believed that destroying Cybertron would save the universe when, in fact, it would merge it with the [[Dead Universe]], killing all forms of life. [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Optimus Prime]] and [[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rodimus]] attempted to stop him, but were too late to prevent him from feeding the Heart of Darkness into Vector Sigma. While [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]], [[Arcee (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Arcee]], and [[Cyclonus (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Cyclonus]] fought with Galvatron, Rodimus convinced an initially reluctant Optimus that the only way to save Cybertron and the universe was to release the Matrix of Leadership inside Vector Sigma. Agreeing, Prime leapt into Vector Sigma, opening the Matrix and preventing the assault of the Dead Universe on Cybertron and the rest of the universe. {{storylink|Chaos Part Four: Genesis|Genesis}} Unexpectedly, however, this resulted in the rebirth of Cybertron itself. {{storylink|Transformers: The Death of Optimus Prime|The Death of Optimus Prime}}

Some years later, Cybertron was invaded by the [[Iron Ring]] eventually resulting in one of their number, the [[Prysmosian]] sorcerer [[Merklynn]], using the [[Talisman (G1)|Talisman]] to create the city of [[New Prysmos]] deep in Cybertron's underground. {{storylink|First Strike issue 6|First Strike #6}}

The Cybertronians eventually placed New Prysmos under quarantine with [[Breakdown (IDW)|Breakdown]] unintentionally discovering that the Talisman's energies were spreading outwards from the alien city after a portion of it had decayed his arm. Following this, [[Wheeljack (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Wheeljack]] began to examine the Talisman energy surrounding New Prysmos and found that the device itself was burrowing its way down to Vector Sigma, apparently intent on completing the terraforming process. [[Ironhide (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ironhide]] did not take this news well. {{storylink|Schismatic}}

Wheeljack eventually constructed an anti-Talisman bomb that if detonated close enough to the supercomputer could immunize it against [[magic]]. {{storylink|Desperate Measures (Transformers vs. Visionaries)|Desperate Measures}} After [[Quickswitch]] transported the bomb to Vector Sigma's antechamber, {{storylink|Good Men}} it went off at the same time as [[Galadria]]'s healing spell managing to preserve Vector Sigma while moving New Prysmos to Cybertron's surface. {{storylink|The Curtain}}

Though it was preserved, Vector Sigma was still poisoned by the Talisman's energies. While imprisoned, Shockwave revealed to [[Starscream (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Starscream]] that this had been goal, intending for Vector Sigma's consumption to poison and kill [[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]]. {{storylink|Last Stand (Unicron)|Last Stand}} When Unicron arrived at Cybertron however, he physically tore the planet in two with his robot mode, destroying Vector Sigma while leaving the Chaos Bringer unharmed. {{storylink|Road's End}}

====The Functionist Universe====

When the [[Functionist Council]] discovered [[Nova Prime]]'s stockpile of Sparks, they deemed it heretical that the [[Senate]] would try to use them. The Senate responded by sealing Vector Sigma's chamber behind a wall of [[ununtrium]]. {{storylink|Dissolution Part 3: A World Misplaced|A World Misplaced}} Since ununtrium could cut ununtrium, this was, at best, a minor inconvenience for the Functionists but they left the supercomputer alone out of fear that their [[Key to Vector Sigma|collective alternate mode]] was unnecessary to activate it. {{storylink|Dissolution Part 5: Modes of Production|Modes of Production}}

Millions of years later, the Council "discovered" that the true purpose of [[Rung (G1)|Rung's]] alternate mode was to drill through the wall and free Vector Sigma. {{storylink|Dissolution Part 3: A World Misplaced|A World Misplaced}} Fearing what the Council could do with Vector Sigma, [[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rodimus]] led a team to try and rescue Rung before they breached the chamber. The group arrived too late and were met by [[Six-of-Twelve]] whom Rodimus insulted before tackling him into Vector Sigma's chamber. His team followed and were horrified by the sight of {{storylink|Dissolution Part 4: Bad Moon Rising|Bad Moon Rising}} Six using the false Matrix as an agony beam to torture Rodimus. Using Rung as a false hostage, [[Ratchet (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ratchet]] got Rodimus freed and the group escaped back to the surface and onto the [[Cog (facility)|Cog]]. On the ship, Rung explained that once the Council learned of his ability to generate [[photonic crystal]]s, they'd tried to tap the [[Matrix of Leadership]] for new sparks only to discover it was a fake, instead turning to Vector Sigma to extract all the sparks they needed to build a galaxy conquering army. {{storylink|Dissolution Part 5: Modes of Production|Modes of Production}}

After turning Cybertron itself into a cosmic engine of destruction, the planet's lack of mobility proved a hindrance to Functionist Council. To counteract this, the Council engineered Cybertron with a robot mode in [[Primus]]'s likeness, which was directed by seven of the remaining eleven councillors, all merged with Vector Sigma. {{storylink|Crucible (Part 4): The Return of the King|The Return of the King}} [[Team Rodimus (G1)|Team Rodimus]] eventually hit on a plan to exploit Vector Sigma's connection to Cybertron's [[hot spot (phenomenon)|hot spot]]s to overwhelm the supercomputer's defences and kill the councillors who had merged with it. {{storylink|Crucible (Part 5): The Unremembering|The Unremebering}} When the heroes opened twelve duplicates of the [[Matrix of Leadership]], the energies briefly overloaded Vector Sigma before the computer shunted the excess energy to the orbiting Luna 1, though not before the Functionist Council had been totally disintegrated, ending their reign. {{storylink|Crucible (Part 6): A Spark Among Embers|A Spark Among Embers}}
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===''Transformers vs. G.I. Joe''===
After Megatron had seized the [[Matrix of Leadership]], {{storylink|Pax Megatronus}} the talisman led him to the face of [[Primus]], deep beneath Cybertron's surface. Using the Matrix, Megatron managed to pervert Vector Sigma causing the supercomputer to begin reshaping Cybertron into Megatron's likeness. {{storylink|Expelled from the Garden}}

===''Beast Wars: Uprising''===
At some point during the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]], Vector Sigma was destroyed, threatening the Cybertronian species with eventual extinction. To ensure a future for his race, [[Cerebros (G1)|Cerebros]] contacted humanity, who had forced the end of planet-devastating Great War, and used their knowledge to construct the [[Energon Matrix|energon matrix]] as a successor to Vector Sigma, allowing for the birth of the [[Maximal]]s and [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]]s. {{storylink|Head Games}}

===''Cyberverse'' cartoon===
[[File:Vector Sigma (Cyberverse - Megatron Is My Hero).jpg|thumb|right|Unfortunately "Shiny Ball" was confused at the time.]]
When Cybertron fell to war, Vector Sigma's chamber was seized by the [[Decepticon]]s. [[Megatron (Cyberverse)|Megatron]] intended to use the supercomputer to reprogram the [[AllSpark|Allspark]] and have it birth [[Decepticon supersoldier|whole generations of Decepticons]], delegating [[Shockwave (Cyberverse)|Shockwave]] to base himself in the computer's chamber. When the Autobots caught wind of this, [[Bumblebee (Cyberverse)|Bumblebee]] was sent down to Vector Sigma to gleam the Decepticon plan only to be chased away by [[Shockwave's drones]]. {{storylink|Megatron Is My Hero}}

Many years later, [[Starscream (Cyberverse)|Starscream]] had the [[Seeker (Cyberverse)|Seekers]] retrieve Vector Sigma from Shockwave's lab and, after obtaining the Allspark, used the relic and supercomputer to create an army of [[Scraplet]]s. {{storylink|Bring Me The Spark Of Optimus Prime}} {{storylink|Dark Birth}} [[Acid Storm (Cyberverse)|Acid Storm]] later used Vector Sigma to give Starscream complete control of the Allspark. Starscream was defeated soon afterwards and the Allspark forced out of his physical form. While the Autobots claimed the life-giving artefact, {{storylink|I Am The Allspark}} Vector Sigma was claimed by the Decepticons and brought back to Cybertron, {{storylink|Escape From Earth}} where it returned to its position within the [[Threshold of the Allspark]]. {{storylink|Battle For Cybertron II}}

When the Autobots returned to Cybertron, the battle began to shift in the Decepticons' favour. [[Windblade (Cyberverse)|Windblade]] decided that the Autobots had to destroy Vector Sigma only to find that the supercomputer being guarded by [[Bludgeon (Cyberverse)|Bludgeon]]. {{storylink|Battle For Cybertron III}} As the two dueled, [[Wheeljack (Cyberverse)|Wheeljack]] snuck in and sprayed the supercomputer with [[unspace]] goo. After Windblade kicked Bludgeon into the computer, the unspace matter took effect and destroyed Vector Sigma, undoing any chance of Megatron creating his perfect army. {{storylink|Battle For Cybertron IV}}

===2019 IDW continuity===
Upon returning to Cybertron following Megatron's takeover, [[Alpha Trion]] reassured the crew of the ''[[Fist of Iacon]]'' that the relics of the past, Vector Sigma among them, would help them through the storm to come. {{storylink|Storm Horizon Part 3}}

===''Age of the Primes'' marketing material===
[[Solus Prime|Solus]] and [[Micronus Prime]] created the system that would evolve into Vector Sigma during the [[Thirteen]]'s ancient battles with [[Unicron]]. {{storylink|Micronus Prime#Age of the Primes|''Age of the Primes'' Micronus Prime bio}}

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==Games==
===''Transformers Legends''===
After being brought to life by their respective factions thanks to Vector Sigma, the Aerialbots and the Stunticons fought for control of the supercomputer. Though the Autobots ultimately triumphed, the Decepticons made their escape in possession of the Key to Vector Sigma. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1 (Legends)|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1}}

===''Transformers: Earth Wars''===
{{Charstubgames|{{Storylink|Transformers: Earth Wars}}}}
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==Merchandise==
===''Timelines''===
[[File:VectorSigmaBotcon07b.jpg|thumb|Long have you hunted me. Long have I eluded you.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{bp-multi|'''Vector Sigma''' ([[BotCon]] [[2007]] Souvenir Add-on)}}</ul>
:*''Accessories'': Key, stand

:A hollow plastic Vector Sigma, packaged with a removable Circuit Key and a clear "hovering effect" display stand, was produced by the Lukis Bros of [http://www.unicron.com/ Unicron.com] as a special souvenir item offered [[exclusive]]ly at [[BotCon 2007]].

:The sphere of Vector Sigma was designed to scale with the contemporary-at-the-time ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' toys, while the slot for the key was intentionally designed to enable the ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]'' [[Safeguard (Cybertron)|Safeguard]] mold to be inserted into the sphere, allowing Safeguard to function as an alternative personal key for [[Vector Prime]] to use to access Vector Sigma himself.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10153596737309912&id=317740274911</ref>

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/VectorSigma/VectorSigma/vectorsigma.htm More information on Vector Sigma at TFU.info]''
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===''Masterpiece''===
[[File:VectorSigmaMP10.jpg|right|thumb]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{bp-a1|'''Masterpiece Optimus Prime''' ([[2014]])}}</ul>
:*''Accessories'': Key, stand

:Vector Sigma came as an exclusive with the Hasbro Asia re-release of the Hasbro version of ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' MP-10 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#mp10hasbro|Optimus Prime]]. It contained a hollow plastic Vector Sigma, a removable Circuit Key and a cardboard stand.
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===''Generations'' (Japan)===
[[File:TFGenerations2014 Rejected AlphaTrion.jpg|thumb|Denied.]]
*'''Alpha Trion''' (<strike>[[2015]]</strike>)

: A mock-up of an [[Alpha Trion/toys#Generations (Japan)|Alpha Trion]] toy in the form of a ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' Deluxe Class [[Scourge (G1)/toys#Generations|Scourge]] redeco was shown in ''[[Transformers Generations 2014 Volume 1]]'' as one of ten potential exclusives for Vol. 2. The accompanying text notes that he would have come with a Vector Sigma accessory, presumably to be a golden redeco of [[Eggbot (BW)|''Beast Wars'' Eggbot]] as seen in the volume's manga story, "[[Train Wars]]". In the [[Fan polls#Generations Magazine Exclusive Character Popularity Vote|fan poll]] held to determine which of the ten would be produced, Alpha Trion claimed 28.9% of the votes but ultimately came second place under [[Goshooter#Generations (Japan)|Goshooter]].<ref>[http://millionhero.sblo.jp/article/101898683.html Poll results at Hero-X]</ref>

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===''Legacy''===
[[File:Legacy A Hero is Born Vector Sigma.jpg|thumb|Guess he really ''did'' have a key on him.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-multi|'''A Hero Is Born''' (2-pack, [[2022]])}}</ul>
:*''Accessories'': Key, stand
{{toydesigner|[[Evan Brooks]] (Hasbro), [[Takio Ejima]] and [[Takashi Kunihiro]] (TakaraTomy)|[[Lenny Panzica]] (initial concept)}}<ref>[https://youtu.be/vuZHDR3ZBd8 Transformers Panel] at [[Hasbro Pulse Con 2022]] Day 1 on the [[Hasbro Pulse]] YouTube channel.</ref>

: Revealed at [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2022, Vector Sigma, along with its [[Key to Vector Sigma#Legacy|Key]], are included in a box set with [[Alpha Trion/toys#Legacy|Alpha Trion]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#HasbroPulse|Orion Pax]]. Vector Sigma is perched atop a removable translucent stand.

: The set was listed for sale as a [[Hasbro Pulse Con 2022]] exclusive, and began appearing in Hong Kong stores shortly afterwards.
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==Notes==
*The idea of Vector Sigma appears to have been invented by [[Flint Dille]] while spitballing potential episode concepts in February 1985, which he included in a missive sent out to potential new writers for the cartoon to illustrate the types of stories the cartoon might tell. In a brief summary for a plot he titled "Journey to the Center of Cybertron," he proposed: "The Autobots and Decepticons have to fight their way to the center of their own planet through a maze of primitive monsters to try and find the 'original program' -- the machine that made all of them."<ref>[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Dmk717ChQ_M6zqfHUy1gdCB2g58DZVKh/view "Transformers Series Update" letter] by Flint Dille, 7 February 1985, via the [https://sunbowmarvelarchive.blogspot.com/p/mp-700-transformers-part-1-1984-1985.html Sunbow Marvel Archive].</ref> In the same letter, Dille noted that the idea had grabbed him, and that he might write the episode himself; it seems likely that, very soon after this letter was sent, during the early development of ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'', Dille had this idea in mind when he put together his proposal for the film, "[[The Secret of Cybertron]]," which involved Optimus Prime travelling to the center of Cybertron to discover the origin of the Transformer race.
*But of course, "The Secret of Cybertron" was never produced, and instead, the concept ultimately wound up being brought to life by [[David Wise]], who has said at various conventions (such as [[BotCon 2009]]) that he was instructed to include the computer when writing "[[The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1|The Key to Vector Sigma]]" (probably around July/August '85). Not knowing what Vector Sigma was, he pressed [[Marvel Productions]] story editor [[Bryce Malek]], who didn't know either; when he passed the question further up the chain, he was told that it was "the computer that gave all the Transformers personalities"... to which Malek responded: "Well, it didn't do a very good job, did it!" (In recounting the story, Wise has claimed Hasbro mandated its inclusion, and that Malek contacted them, but it seems likely he was misremembering and the instruction came down from Dille at Sunbow, who by that stage, had largely taken over the writing and story direction of the series).
*Prior to the event known as the "[[Shroud]]", the many incarnations of Vector Sigma that exist in different dimensions were linked in a massive, multiversal network known as the "Vector Sigma Gestalt," each one identified as a "node" in the network. The [[Caretaker]], an independent computer designed by Vector Sigma to aid the Autobot [[Breakaway (Classics)|Breakaway]] was able to uplink to the Gestalt, identifying three particular "nodes" with a 10 digit numerical designation. {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 6}} These three universes were:
**141.207.6.661 - [[Aurex 405.0 Epsilon]], a [[Unicron Trilogy continuity family|Unicron Trilogy]] cartoon universe<ref>Specifically, the Unicron Trilogy universe [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]], [[Landquake (Timelines)|Landquake]], and possibly also [[Breakaway (Classics)|Breakaway]] and [[Topspin (Classics)|Topspin]] are from. Whether this is the [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] comic Unicron Trilogy, the cartoon Unicron Trilogy, or a hybrid of the two is a [[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|subject of debate]].</ref>
**585.354.3.116 - [[Primax 797.18 Epsilon]], the [[Transformers: Universe (2003 franchise)|3H Beast Era]] universe, potentially a tangent timeline to the original G1 cartoon universe<ref>The [[Caretaker]] notes that the Unicron Trilogy hub and this hub recently had "disruptions", which seems to indicate the [[Unicron Singularity]]'s effects on the Unicron Trilogy and ''Universe''. The Generation 1 cartoon universe is a universe very similar to this one, if they are not indeed the very same.</ref>
**216.333.8.616 - [[Nexus 208.0 Epsilon]], the ''[[Transformers: TransTech|TransTech]]'' universe
**The Caretaker also spoke of a "central hub" that [[Primax 207.0 Epsilon]] (the Classicsverse) was too far away from for Caretaker to function properly.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Vector Sigma''' (ベクターシグマ ''Bekutā Shiguma''; ベクトル・シグマ ''Bekutoru Shiguma''<ref>"The Rebirth" Japanese dub</ref>)
*''French:'' '''Victor Sigma''' (France, "The Rebirth, Part 3")
*''Italian:'' '''Vettore Sigma''' ("Sigma Vector")
*''Mandarin:'' '''Mólì Shénqiú''' (魔力神球, "Magic God Ball"), '''Sigma Shǐliàng''' (西格玛矢量, "Sigma Vector")
*''Russian:'' '''Sigma-Komp'yuter''' (Сигма-Компьютер)
*''Ukrainian:'' '''Sigma-komp'yuter''' (Сигма-комп'ютер)

==References==
<references />

==See also==
*[[Primus]]
*[[Omega Terminus]]
*[[Transformer afterlife]]
*[[Vector Theta]]

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Transformation Cog (Thirteen)

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[[File:IDW2019 Amalgamous TCog.jpeg|thumb|upright|1.67|Get it? '''T'''-Cog?]]
[[Amalgamous Prime]]’s '''Transformation Cog''' is similar in many ways to the [[Transformation cog (biology)|transformation cog]]s of every other [[Transformer]]; it allows the owner to <s>transform</s> [[Transformation|convert]]. The key difference is that as the first – and to an almost unrecognisable level, most powerful – this relic often serves as the original pattern from which its commonplace variant sources its design.

Amalgamous Prime owes his infinite transformational abilities to his [[Artifacts of the Primes|artifact]], and exposure to it can also grant perfectly ordinary Cybertronians the [[Shifter|same abilities]]... but [[Mutacon|at great cost]].

==Fiction==
===Aligned continuity family===
====''The Covenant of Primus''====
The very first Transformation Cog belonged to [[Amalgamous Prime]]. The artifact allowed its holder to take any shape or form its wielder desired. It would eventually become the template for the simplified T-cogs incorporated into the physiologies of all Cybertronians.

After Cybertron's [[Golden Age]], [[Mercury (COP)|Mercury]] and her displaced fleet of [[Neutronia]]n refugees discovered Amalgamous's original Transformation Cog orbiting a black hole. The refugees brought the artifact aboard the ship, but the mysterious energies the Transformation Cog emitted had the unexpected side effect of altering the crew, granting them advanced shapeshifting abilities and the power to combine with one another into an infinite amount of forms. Even so, Mercury and her new [[Mutacon]]s set out to find Amalgamous Prime, hoping that he could undo the change before the Mutacons permanently merged into a single being. {{storylink|Transformers: The Covenant of Primus|The Covenant of Primus}}

===Generation 1 continuity family===
====2005 IDW continuity====
{{note|The [[2005 IDW continuity]]’s [[Guiding Hand]] story included its own origin for transformation unconnected to the [[Thirteen]] origin chronicled in the ''[[Transformers: The Covenant of Primus|Covenant of Primus]]'', the latter being published a year later, but with the [[Transformers Roleplaying Game]]’s explicit conflation of Amalgamous Prime and Adaptus, it seems pertinent to chronicle this here.}}
According to legend, transformation itself came about when [[Adaptus]] was “stripped bare” and reduced to the first Transformation Cog. {{storylink|Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations}} This turned out not to be the case. {{storylink|Crucible (Part 5): The Unremembering|The Unremembering}}
====2019 IDW continuity====
The original Transformation Cog was one of the fourteen [[Artifacts of the Primes]]. {{storylink|Lord of Misrule: Sea of Rust I|Sea of Rust I}}

==Toys==
===''Age of the Primes''===
[[File:AOTP Transformation Cogs of Amalgamous Prime.jpg|thumb|upright=2|Does this mean [[Shockwave (disambiguation)|Shockwave]] also keeps his T-Cog on his face?]]
<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr9|The Thirteen Amalgamous Prime (Voyager Class, [[2026]])}} </ul>
{{toydesigner|[[Mark Maher]] (Hasbro), [[Hisashi Yuki]] (TakaraTomy)}}<ref>[[July 25]], [[2025]]'s [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T18IQaMuGVk Transformers Brand Panel Recap | SDCC 2025 | Hasbro Pulse] on YouTube, with [[Mark Maher]], [[Evan Brooks]] and [[Nate Purswell]].</ref>

: Released as part of the first 2026 wave of ''[[Transformers: Age of the Primes|Age of the Primes]]'', [[Amalgamous Prime#Age of the Primes|Amalgamous Prime]] features two versions of his signature Transformation Cog. One is based on the T-cogs found in ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' and can store on the end of his [[Scythe (Thirteen)|Scythe]], while the other has a more traditional design and is capable of storing in his head to function as an eyeball. Gnarly.

::*''[https://www.instagram.com/p/DOzRWSjACdX/ Designer commentary on Amalgamous Prime from Mark Maher on Instagram'']''

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==References==
{{reflist}}

==See Also==
*[[Mul-T-Cog]]

[[Category:Artifacts of the Primes]]

Amalgamous Prime

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[[File:9AmalgamousPrime.jpg|thumb|250px|Go ahead, try and make a toy of me. I ''dare'' you.]]
'''Amalgamous Prime''' is one of the [[Thirteen]], the original Primes, who were created by [[Primus]] to battle and defeat his nemesis, [[Unicron]]. A gentle, good-natured prankster, Amalgamous Prime was the trickster of the Thirteen and the master of [[Transformation|change]]; he could instantaneously assume just about any shape he could imagine. Amalgamous's curious nature and independent mind meant that he rarely stayed in one place for very long. His equally mutable [[Scythe (Thirteen)|Scythe]] mimicked his own whimsical form, constantly changing from one shape or state of matter to another. Supposedly, he would go on to found the [[Shifter]]s, who took after his fluid and malleable nature.

==Fiction==
===Aligned continuity family===
====''The Covenant of Primus''====
Amalgamous Prime was the ninth Prime created by Primus to defeat Unicron. He possessed two [[Artifacts of the Primes|artifacts]] of power - his shapeshifting Scythe and the original [[Transformation Cog (Thirteen)|Transformation Cog]], which caused him to shift and flow constantly. In the [[Expulsion of Unicron|ensuing battle]] against Primus's archenemy, Amalgamous fought on the front lines as a warrior, and together the Thirteen saw off Unicron. In the [[Age of Primes|age of peace and rebuilding]] that followed, Amalgamous, [[Liege Maximo]], and [[Micronus Prime]] busied themselves with mining and refining [[Energon]], although personality conflicts simmered between the trio and [[Alpha Trion]], [[Prima]], and [[Vector Prime]], who Amalgamous viewed as bossy and controlling.

After the [[War of the Primes|schism]] that resulted in the deaths of [[Solus Prime]] and Liege Maximo and the self-imposed exile of [[The Fallen|Megatronus]], the Primes decided to create a new generation of [[Transformer|Cybertronians]] that might follow them. Amalgamous Prime provided the imprint of his Transformation Cog to their alchemical "brew" in the [[Well of All Sparks]], so that all Cybertronians that emerged would have his gift of transformation, albeit to a lesser degree.

Amalgamous eventually left [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] for parts unknown, although 'bots of his archetype would occasionally demonstrate greater shape-changing abilities, arising as the [[Shifter]]s.

After Cybertron's [[Golden Age]], [[Mercury (COP)|Mercury]] and her displaced fleet of [[Neutronia]]n refugees discovered Amalgamous Prime's Transformation Cog near a [[Black hole (phenomenon)|black hole]], and took it on board. Prolonged exposure to the Cog altered their physiologies, giving them the power of unlimited shapeshifting and the ability to combine with one another into many different forms. Thus altered, these Transformers renamed themselves [[Mutacon]]s, and began searching for Amalgamous in the hopes that he could undo the change before they permanently merged into a single amorphous being. {{storylink|Transformers: The Covenant of Primus|The Covenant of Primus}}

====''Prime'' cartoon====
[[Image:OneShallRise1-WellofAllSparks.jpg|thumb|250px|left|The crackly box-thing in the top left.]]

According to legend, at the beginning of time, [[Unicron#Aligned continuity family|Unicron]] and [[Primus]] battled each other for eons, with neither side remaining victorious for long. Till, that is, Primus created the [[Thirteen]]. These Thirteen defeated Unicron and cast him into space. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}

====Aligned novels====
Among the Thirteen, Amalgamous Prime's talent for change was rivaled only by [[Nexus Prime]]. While Nexus excelled in combination, separation, and alt-forms, though, Amalgamous Prime could alter his shape itself, assuming any appearance he desired. Impatient and perhaps selfish, Amalgamous expressed his distaste to [[Solus Prime]] when she dedicated so much of her time to the creation of [[The Fallen|Megatronus]]'s [[Requiem Blaster (Thirteen)|Requiem Blaster]]. Amalgamous Prime's fate after the betrayal of Megatronus and the plotting of [[Liege Maximo]] remained unknown. Only [[Alpha Trion]] and [[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]] remained on Cybertron as the planet's civilization developed, but legend has it that Amalgamous may have returned at a later date, and the rarely seen modern Transformers known as "[[Shifter]]s" are somehow descended from him. {{storylink|Transformers: Exiles|Exiles}}
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===Ask Vector Prime===
During the time that the Thirteen of the [[multiverse]] existed as [[multiversal singularity|singularities]], Vector Prime recounted in his [[Ask Vector Prime|ANN column]] how Amalgamous and four of his siblings ended up in the [[Realm of the Primes]] following the dissolution of the Thirteen. When Vector Prime (who had self-induced amnesia in order to protect the location of [[Nexus Prime]]'s components) ended up in the Realm of the Primes during his campaign against [[Mogahn the Mass]], Vector's siblings unlocked his memories as [[Primus]]'s appointed guardian of space and time. Vector Prime then returned to normal space and wrested away Mogahn's [[Cyber Caliber]]. Using Amalgamous's gift, Vector reformatted the blade into [[Rhisling]] and vanquished Mogahn, sending the Mass back in time and thus causing the Big Bang.

Vector's audience was confused by this account, however, as Amalgamous was not known to be a member of the Thirteen outside of the [[Uniend|Uniend Cluster]], and moreover, Vector had claimed that he used to go by the name "[[Adaptus]]", who readers understood to be a separate entity from another universe. The distressed Vector realized that he was somehow conflating memories from different universes into one (in actuality, a portent of the coming [[Shroud]] that would eradicate the Thirteen's singularity nature), making it hard to know whether Amalgamous was truly part of the events he had described or not. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/07/12}}

===2005 IDW continuity===
{{first|[[Conquerors Part 2: Lagrange|''Transformers vol. 2'' #47]] (mentioned); [[Heavy|''Till All Are One'' #9]] (obscured image); [[The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|''Optimus Prime'' #18]] (depicted)}}

[[File:OP18 Thirteen in Crystal City.jpg|thumb|375px|I'm the guy on the right. I'll bet you thought that was my thigh.]]

Amalgamous was one of the Thirteen Primes who led the [[Thirteen Tribes]] that arose on Cybertron following the departure of the [[Knights of Cybertron]]. {{storylink|Conquerors Part 2: Lagrange|Lagrange}} {{storylink|Origin Myths}} Along with four others, he later joined the [[Crystal City]] alliance creating the Thirteen [[Prime (rank)|Primes]]. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}} The death of [[Nexus Prime]] at the hands of [[Galvatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Galvatron]] prompted all the remaining Primes except [[Alpha Trion]] to flee Cybertron. Eons later, [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Shockwave]] would send one of his [[Regenesis]] ores, [[Ore-9]], to [[Velocitron]], {{storylink|The Crucible}} {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 4: The Hallowing|The Hallowing}} which had been settled in eons past by Amalagamous's affiliated Titan [[Navitas]]. {{storylink|Ceremony|The Lost Colonies of Cybertron}}

In the modern day, Amalgamous Prime's name was remembered in the [[Way of Flame]], the religion of [[Solus Prime]]'s colony [[Caminus (planet)|Caminus]]. {{storylink|Conquerors Part 2: Lagrange|Lagrange}}

===''Power of the Primes'' marketing material===
Amalgamous Prime's [[Spark]] passed into the possession of one of the twelve [[Prime Master]]s; hidden within a suit of decoy armor, they safeguarded the abilities of the Primes until the present day. By uniting with a larger Transformer, the Prime Master could channel the powers of Amalgamous's Spark and grant them unique abilities that varied with each new partner. {{storylink|Power of the Primes (toyline)|Power of the Primes}}

{{note|For a list of every permutation of Amalgamous Prime's abilities, see [[Prime Master/Combinations|this link]].}}

===''Cyberverse'' cartoon===
Amalgamous Prime was one of the [[Thirteen]]. {{storylink|Dweller In The Depths (Cyberverse)|Dweller In The Depths}} {{storylink|Silent Strike}} {{storylink|The Other One}}

When brought before a [[Quintesson]] [[Judge (Cyberverse)|Judge]], [[Hot Rod (Cyberverse)|Hot Rod]] swore by Amalgamous Prime. {{storylink|The Trial}}

===''One'' film===
[[File:TransformersOne-AmalgamousLiegeMaximoholograms.jpg|left|thumb|I'm on the left! So they say.]]
Amalgamous Prime and the other twelve Primes were created by [[Primus]] at the dawn of Cybertron, and they ruled Cybertron benevolently through its Golden Age. When a war with the Quintessons threw the planet into a protracted, violent conflict, the Primes' secretary, [[Sentinel Prime (One)|Sentinel Prime]], herded the [[Thirteen]] into a Quintesson ambush within [[Mouth of Unicron|a remote cave]]. Amalgamous would be killed during the battle, with his brothers' and sisters' bodies resting in the cave for fifty cycles before being rediscovered by miners [[Optimus Prime (One)|Orion Pax]], [[Megatron (One)|D-16]], [[Elita-1 (One)|Elita]], and [[Bumblebee (One)|B-127]].

A vision of Amalgamous Prime and the other Primes later appeared as Alpha Trion declared a damaged Orion Pax to be the next wielder of the Matrix of Leadership, Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Transformers One (film)|Transformers One}}
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==Games==
===''Transformers: Earth Wars''===
;'''Amalgamous Prime Core'''
[[File:Earth Wars Amalgamous Prime Core.jpg|thumb|upright=0.6]]

Amalgamous Prime's [[Prime Master#Transformers: Earth Wars|Prime Core]] (his "heart" as one of the primordial [[Thirteen|Thirteen Primes]]) fell to Earth under mysterious circumstances along with those of his siblings to become a hotly contested resource in the [[Earth Wars (conflict)|Earth Wars]]. {{storylink|Power of the Primes (Earth Wars)|Power of the Primes}}

*'''Effect:''' Boosts attack and regenerates HP while in [[Alternate mode|alt mode]].

[https://tfew.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4733780017183-Prime-Cores-Bot Amalgamous Prime Core at Transformers: Earth Wars Wiki]

{{chargamestub|{{storylink|Transformers: Earth Wars}}}}

===''Transformers Roleplaying Game''===
Amalgamous Prime was sometimes known as the “Grand Architect” of the Thirteen. A curious, ever-shifting being, Amalgamous adopted thousands of alternate modes over the course of his life; some knew him as '''[[Adaptus]]''', and some sources suggest that Amalgamous engineered the [[God War]] that precipitated the fall of the Primes. Ancient humans knew him as {{w|Poseidon}}. {{storylink|Transformers One Sourcebook}} In modern times, Amalgamous was closely associated with [[Triple Changer]]s. {{storylink|Transformers Roleplaying Game Core Rulebook|Core Rulebook}}

==Toys==
===''Power of the Primes''===
[[File:TF-PotP-SDCC-2018-Throne-of-the-Primes-Amalgamous-Prime.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Wow, we weren't expecting a real toy of this guy.]]
<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-m1|'''Throne of the Primes''' (Leader Class, [[2018]])}}</ul>
:*''Japanese ID number'': '''PP-43'''
:*''TakaraTomy release date'': [[January 26]], [[2019]]
{{toydesigner|[[Marcelo Matere]] (throne designer, packaging artist)}}

:''[[Power of the Primes (toyline)|Power of the Primes]]'' Amalgamous Prime is a retool of the [[Micronus Prime#Power of the Primes|Micronus]]/[[Cloudburst#Power of the Primes|Cloudburst]] inner robot with a new sigil/backpack, packaged in the [[Throne of the Primes#Toys|Throne of the Primes]] set.

:This toy has identical features to the other Prime Masters in the line. The [[Titan Master]]-like robot can store inside decoy armor or ride [[Size class|Legends Class]] figures in vehicle mode, and is fully compatible with toys from the previous ''[[Titans Return (toyline)|Titans Return]]'' line. The "Power Swap" gimmick means its [[spark]] form can plug onto any decoy armor's weapon form (which has a [[5 mm post]] to be held by larger figures), Deluxe Class figures' chest armor, Voyager Class figures' bucklers, Leader Class figures' [[Matrix of Leadership/toys#Power of the Primes|Matrix]] (in place of their Matrix core), [[combiner]]s' torsos (in place of their [[Enigma of Combination]]), or the included [[Scepter of Sparks]] or [[Halo of Primus]] accessories. With the power of [[You|your]] imagination, this bestows the Prime Master's [[Prime Master/Combinations|unique power]] on the larger figure.

:Though Amalgamous is not packaged with a decoy armor, one assumes given gang-molding principles that Amalgamous's tooling is paired with the [[Waverider#Notes|Waverider]]-themed armor [[:File:Legends-LGEX-Gran-bonus-Pretender-Suit.jpg|that was almost used]] for [[Grand Maximus#Legends|''Legends'' Grand Maximus]].

:This set debuted at [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2018, and was later sold via [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] online. It was also available at general retail in Taiwan.

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===''Age of the Primes''===
[[File:AOTP-AmalgamousPrime.jpg|thumb|upright=2.5|How? ''HOW???'']]
<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr9|'''The Thirteen Amalgamous Prime''' (Voyager Class, [[2026]])}} </ul>
:*''Accessories:'' [[Scythe (Thirteen)#Age of the Primes|Scythe]], [[Transformation Cog (Thirteen)#Age of the Primes|2 T-Cogs]]
{{toydesigner|[[Mark Maher]] (Hasbro), [[Hisashi Yuki]] (TakaraTomy)}}<ref>[[July 25]], [[2025]]'s [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T18IQaMuGVk Transformers Brand Panel Recap | SDCC 2025 | Hasbro Pulse] on YouTube, with [[Mark Maher]], [[Evan Brooks]] and [[Nate Purswell]].</ref>

: Released as part of the first 2026 wave of ''[[Transformers: Age of the Primes|Age of the Primes]]'', Amalgamous Prime is modeled after a blend of his designs from the ''[[Transformers: The Covenant of Primus|Covenant of Primus]]'' and ''[[Transformers One (film)|Transformers One]]''. While initial stock images show him transforming into a single spider-tank, the figure's main event is an enhanced version of the "[[C.O.M.B.A.T. System|Weaponizer]]" gimmick befitting his infinitely changeable nature: parts featuring a litany of micro-vehicle [[kibble]] and sculped cockpits that can be removed and re-arranged to form configurations pretty much limited only by your imagination, with "about five different modes" as prescribed starting points.

: He comes with three [[Artifacts of the Primes|Artifact]]s: two variants of his signature [[Transformation Cog (Thirteen)#Age of the Primes|T-Cog]], and his [[Scythe (Thirteen)#Age of the Primes|Scythe]]. One T-cog stores away as the pupil of his mono-eye, while the other (physically based on the T-cogs seen in ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Prime]]'') can be stored on the end of his scythe. The scythe itself forms the gun turret in tank mode.

:Amalgamous was initially revealed at [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2025.

::*''[https://www.instagram.com/p/DOzRWSjACdX/ Designer commentary on Amalgamous Prime from Mark Maher on Instagram'']''

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==Notes==
===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Amalgamous Prime''' (アマルガモスプライム ''Amarugamosu Puraimu'')
*''Mandarin:'' '''Huàn Tiān Líng''' (幻天灵)

==Gallery==
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One-Amalgamous-Prime.jpg|''One'' film trading card art.
Amalgamous Prime OneFilm ILMConceptArt.jpg|''One'' film concept art.
AOTP Amalgamous concept art.jpg|''Age of the Primes'' concept art.
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==References==
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Disney

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[[File:Disney.png|300px|thumb|''In you and I, there's a new land...'']]

'''The Walt Disney Company''', or simply '''Disney''' for short, is a U.S. entertainment megacorporation, wielding extensive influence over the industry in many countries, such as changing [[copyright]] law in their favor. [[Mickey Mouse]] is their iconic mascot.

With their vast reach over media franchises known across the globe, Disney has been peripherally involved with the ''Transformers'' brand many times over the years, notably via their acquisitions of [[Marvel Comics]] and ''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]'' in the early 2010s. More directly, Disney collaborated with [[TakaraTomy]] to create the small ''[[Transformers Disney Label]]'' toyline.

In 2001, Disney purchased [[Saban Entertainment]] and the rights to all its programming, including the English dub of ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)|Transformers: Robots in Disguise]]''. While the later Saban Brands company would eventually reacquire the rights to most of these programs, ''Robots in Disguise'' seemingly wasn't among them, meaning Hasbro didn't get the rights to it when they acquired Saban Brands' catalog in 2018. As a result, as far as anyone knows, the ''Robots in Disguise'' rights are still locked up in the Disney vault, and it's become the one ''Transformers'' TV series that remains completely unavailable in the modern day, without any sort of North American physical release or availability on any streaming platform. ([[Maximum Entertainment]] released the whole run in the [[United Kingdom]], with the DVDs bearing the Jetix network logo as a result of Disney's purchase and rebranding of [[Fox Kids]].)

==Fiction==
===''Dinobot War''===
On [[you]]r first visit to Disney's [[Disneyland]] theme park, you avoided the guard in front of the under-construction [[Wizard's Cave]] attraction by claiming your father was a Disney executive, distracting him just long enough to sneak past. {{storylink|Dinobot War}}

==Notes==
*[[BotCon 2010]] was hosted at the Walt Disney World Dolphin Hotel and Convention Center.
*Disney's [[1989]]–onward ''The Little Mermaid'' franchise is likely the reason why the [[2023]] ''[[Transformers: Legacy|Legacy: Evolution]]'' figure of the [[1985]] character Ariel had to be trademarked as "[[Elita One (G1)#WarDawn|Erial]]". Presumably, this is also why ''[[Transformers One (film)|Transformers One]]'' [[Elita-1 (One)|Elita-1]] was not called "Ariel".
*Aside from Marvel, ''Star Wars'', and (formerly) ''[[Power Rangers (group)|Power Rangers]]'', media produced or distributed by Disney includes the ''[[Predator (alien)|Predator]]'' franchise; several recent [[Steven Spielberg]] productions, including ''[[Indiana Jones|Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny]]''; and ''[[Doctor Who]]'' and its spin-offs from 2022 to 2025.

==External links==
*[http://thewaltdisneycompany.com/ Official website]
*{{w|The Walt Disney Company}} at Wikipedia

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Onyx Prime

2025-11-11T20:36:36Z

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{{disambigm|Onyx (disambiguation)|Artemis (disambiguation)}}
[[Image:10OnyxPrime.jpg|thumb|upright=3|Move over, [[Predaking (Prime)|Predaking]]!]]

Of the [[Thirteen]], '''Onyx Prime''', the "Lord of Beasts", is the most spiritually-minded of their number, in tune with both the creatures of the natural world and the intangible realm of the spirit. He alone has the ability to properly use the three-faced [[Triptych Mask]] given to him by Primus; this artifact allows him to cast his spirit across vast distances to commune with the dreams of far-off beings, or even track the journey of a [[Spark]] across the [[Transformer afterlife|afterlife]]. Though some view these strange mental voyages across distant realms as mere flights of fancy, Onyx and his visions make him one of the most inspirational Primes.

Onyx Prime's spiritual aptitude allowed him to cultivate an inscrutable presence that made him appear mysterious and slightly intimidating at the best of times, even to the other members of the Thirteen. In spite of his powers, Onyx Prime is a kind-hearted and friendly individual at [[Spark]], a trait that made him one of the most liked members of the Thirteen. Indeed, all of his siblings treated him as a fiercely loyal companion and a steadfast confidant—[[Micronus Prime]], in particular, once regarded Onyx as his closest friend. As the first Transformer to possess a [[beast mode]], those Transformers who revere him as the greatest of the Primes tend to eschew the vehicular [[alternate mode]]s of other Transformers, preferring to wear the animalistic forms exemplified by their spiritual progenitor.

==Fiction==
===Aligned continuity family===
====''The Covenant of Primus''====
[[File:COP-WellOfAllSparks.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.66]]

Onyx Prime was the eighth member of the [[Thirteen]] produced by [[Primus]], to serve as his children and warriors against his opposite, [[Unicron]]. As one of the mid-level Thirteen spawned between the opposing warriors [[Prima]] and [[The Fallen|Megatronus]], Onyx Prime had a more balanced and elemental quality. He was a fierce warrior and fought valiantly in the battle with Unicron, but also had a spiritual side that intrigued some of his fellows while flummoxing others. He was very close to [[Solus Prime]] (often to Megatronus's chagrin) and was perhaps best friends with [[Micronus Prime]].

The death of Solus Prime hit Onyx harder than any other member of the Primes. It was Onyx who discovered her body in her workshop, and the cry he let loose chilled [[Alpha Trion]] to his very oil. He had to be physically restrained by [[Vector Prime]]'s power after finding Solus, and held in that position to prevent him from seeking vengeance on Megatronus himself. When the division between Megatronus and [[Liege Maximo]] came to a head, all the remained Thirteen warred with one another in a battle lust that was divorced from all possible reason. When they regained their senses, the Thirteen found Maximo dead and Onyx Prime gravely injured.

As Megatronus declared himself "The Fallen" forevermore and exiled himself from Cybertron, the Thirteen questioned what to do next. Solus Prime's body had melted down to the core of Cybertron, creating a font of life that could potentially produce new Cybertronians. As his dying act, Onyx Prime volunteered to catalyze the process, journeying down into this [[Well of All Sparks]] with the power of his Triptych Mask reorganizing the thirteen patterns of the Thirteen into an endless variety of new Cybertronians. They believed the power of Primus would preserve Onyx Prime at the core forevermore, keeping him from the death awaiting his injuries. [[Quintus Prime]], [[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]], and [[Amalgamous Prime]] each contributed some of their power and skills to this experiment as well, ensuring its success. In the end, [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] and Micronus Prime chose to journey down into the Well with Onyx. Optimus intended to be reincarnated among the new sparks, allowing him to live among them and learn from them. Micronus could not bear to be parted from Onyx, and chose to exile himself to the core with his mortally wounded friend as well.

The experiment was a success, and the Well of All Sparks soon erupted with an endless array of new lifeforms, brought into existence by Onyx Prime and the power of his brothers and sisters. The [[Predacon (Prime)|Predacon]]s of the [[Age of Evolution]] certainly drew strongly from Onyx's pattern, as did the other beastformers that followed in their wake over time. {{storylink|Transformers: The Covenant of Primus|The Covenant of Primus}}

====''Prime'' cartoon====
[[File:SolusAlphaOnyxMicronus-ArtofPrime.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.67|I may have wings, four legs, and a lack of normal arms... but I am not [[Pokeformers|Origin Forme Palkia!]]]]
According to legend, at the beginning of time, [[Unicron]] and [[Primus]] battled each other for eons, with neither side remaining victorious for long until Primus created the [[Thirteen]]. These Thirteen defeated Unicron and cast him into space. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}

===2005 IDW continuity===
{{main|Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity#Onyx Prime}}
{{first|[[The Crucible|''Robots in Disguise'' #34]] (mentioned); [[Ghost Stories|''Transformers'' Annual 2017]] (Shockwave as Onyx Prime); [[The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|''Optimus Prime'' #18]] (true Onyx)}}

[[File:IDW Onyx.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|Something happened on [[The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|the day he died]]. Spirit rose a metre then stepped aside. [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Somebody else]] took his place, and then he cried...]]

In the barbarian age after the departure of the [[Knights of Cybertron]], '''Onyx''' led a flock of wayward and mistreated [[beast mode]] Cybertronians as they scoured the wastelands for usable [[energon]]. One day, the group came across the time-lost [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Shockwave]], transported twelve million years into the past as a result of the destruction of his [[chronal drive]]. The kindly Onyx offered the damaged Shockwave some of their energon and introduced himself; realizing the crucial role that Onyx would play in Cybertron's history, Shockwave took him up on his offer... ''after'' killing him and seizing control of his herd. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

Disguising himself as "Onyx ''Prime''", Shockwave used his future knowledge to steer history along its preordained course—and, along the way, deliberately established many of the myths and legends that would shape the beliefs of future Cybertronians, including the "[[Dark Cybertron (prophecy)|Dark Cybertron]]" prophecy that his younger self would one day attempt to bring about. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 4: The Hallowing|The Hallowing}} After shaping one of the real Onyx's followers into "[[The Fallen|Megatronus]]", "Onyx Prime" engineered the unification of the [[Thirteen]], {{storylink|Origin Myths}} then manipulated both Megatronus and [[Liege Maximo]] into starting the [[First Cybertronian Civil War]] that ended the reign of the Primes. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}} "Onyx Prime" and his [[Maximal]] followers left Cybertron and relocated to the dead planet of [[Antilla]] as part of Shockwave's long game—after excavating the [[Talisman (G1)|Talisman]] that had been created on the planet, "Onyx" sent it to [[Earth]] aboard the starship ''[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]'', {{storylink|Strange Visitors}} where it remained for thousands of years until the [[Iron Ring]] brought it to Cybertron as part of their failed invasion. {{storylink|First Strike issue 6|First Strike #6}} In the meantime, "Onyx" continued his various manipulations, which included attacking a [[Parvus Oppidum|village]] on [[Caminus (planet)|Caminus]], {{storylink|Ghost Stories}} and sending [[Sovereign|a scout]] to Earth to search for the [[Enigma of Combination]]. {{storylink|White Light}}

In [[2018]], "Onyx Prime" returned to Cybertron to finally enact his ultimate plan: using the corrosive [[magic]]al energies of the Talisman, he would sacrifice Cybertron itself to [[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]], rationalizing that with their homeworld destroyed he could unite what remained of the Cybertronian species under his own banner. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 6: Unforgivable|Unforgivable}} Although "Onyx Prime" initially presented himself as a benevolent figure, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Optimus Prime]] and the [[Council of Worlds]] soon realized something was amiss—shortly after his manipulations led to the death of [[Alpha Trion]], "Onyx" was unmasked as Shockwave, who proceeded to explain the role he'd played in history to the bewildered Optimus before throwing him into [[infraspace]]. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}
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===Fun Publications===
[[File:OnyxArtemisAVPHolomatter.jpg|upright=.8|thumb]]

[[Vector Prime]] fondly remembered the time he spent with his siblings, including Onyx Prime, who Vector noted to be in tune with nature and especially the organic. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/06/14}} Vector also noted that both [[Liege Maximo|Liege]] and Onyx utilized female [[holomatter]] avatars when interacting with humans. Onyx's avatar inspired/co-opted the myth of '''Artemis'''. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/07/20}} Vector Prime also noted that there were [[universal stream]]s where Onyx went by the name Onyx [[Convoy (rank)|Convoy]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/06/24}}

When Nexus Prime united the [[Terminus Blade]] and [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|Star Saber]] with the intent of thickening the walls between realities to prevent dimensional travel, Onyx Prime and the other members of the "multiversal singularity" incarnation of the Thirteen gathered to witness this momentous event. When Nexus brought the blades together, Onyx and the Thirteen ceased to exist as singularities and were splintered into multiple different incarnations across the multiverse. {{storylink|Out of the One, Many}}

{{note|The individual Thirteen were not identified on-panel in "Out of the One, Many", but an orange, winged, vaguely bird-like Transformer depicted in the comic was possibly Onyx.}}

===''Power of the Primes'' toy bios===
Onyx Prime's [[Spark]] passed into the possession of one of the twelve [[Prime Master]]s; hidden within a suit of decoy armor, they safeguarded the abilities of the Primes until the present day. By uniting with a larger Transformer, the Prime Master could channel the powers of Onyx's Spark and grant them unique abilities that varied with each new partner. {{storylink|Power of the Primes (toyline)|Power of the Primes}}

{{note|For a list of every permutation of Onyx Prime's abilities, see [[Prime Master/Combinations|this link]].}}

===''Cyberverse'' cartoon===
[[File:Cyberverse-S3E19-Thunderhowl-Onyx-Prime.jpg|thumb|left|He was going through a biped phase.]]
Onyx Prime was one of the [[Thirteen]]. {{storylink|Dweller In The Depths (Cyberverse)|Dweller In The Depths}} {{storylink|Silent Strike}} {{storylink|The Other One}}

When the Primes ruled Cybertron, Onyx created many secrets hideouts and caches across the planet. In the [[Isle of Onyx Prime]], he hid his [[Cortex Helm]], entrusting the island's location only to his loyal knight [[Thunderhowl (Cyberverse)|Thunderhowl]]. {{storylink|The Perfect Decepticon}}

When [[Crystal City]] was created by the [[Crystalline King]], Onyx Prime sent Thunderhowl to destroy the city, only for Thunderhowl to become trapped for millions of years. {{storylink|Thunderhowl (episode)|Thunderhowl}}

===''One'' film===
[[File:TransformersOne-OnyxPrime.jpg|thumb|This movie has TWO Shockwaves????]]

Onyx Prime was one of the original thirteen Primes created by Primus. When the Quintessons invaded Cybertron, Onyx fought with his fellow Primes against them. He would join the Primes in a secret meeting with the Primes' aide [[Sentinel Prime (One)|Sentinel]], unaware that it was a trap. Onyx would be killed during the battle, with his brothers' and sisters' bodies resting in a hidden cave for fifty cycles before being rediscovered by miners [[Optimus Prime (One)|Orion Pax]], [[Megatron (One)|D-16]], [[Elita-1 (One)|Elita]], and [[Bumblebee (One)|B-127]]. A revived [[Alpha Trion]] would give Onyx's [[Transformation cog (biology)|transformation cog]] to one of the miners,<ref>In the film, Onyx's cog is shown going to B-127, while the film's novelization states it went to D-16. It doesn't ultimately have a significant effect on the story as a whole, so deciding which cog he got somewhat becomes a matter of [[personal canon]].</ref> unlocking their lost ability to transform into an alternate form and providing a new, improved robot form.

A vision of Onyx Prime and the other Primes later appeared as Alpha Trion declared a damaged Orion Pax to be the next wielder of the Matrix of Leadership, Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Transformers One (film)|Transformers One}}
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==Games==
===''Transformers: Earth Wars''===
;'''Onyx Prime Core'''
[[File:Earth Wars Onyx Prime Core.JPG|thumb|upright=0.6]]

Onyx Prime's [[Prime Master#Transformers: Earth Wars|Prime Core]] (his "heart" as one of the primordial [[Thirteen|Thirteen Primes]]) fell to Earth under mysterious circumstances along with those of his siblings to become a hotly contested resource in the [[Earth Wars (conflict)|Earth Wars]]. {{storylink|Power of the Primes (Earth Wars)|Power of the Primes}}

*'''Effect:''' Dramatically boosts regular attack power. Reduces damage taken when HP is below 40% of max.

[https://tfew.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4733780017183-Prime-Cores-Bot Onyx Prime Core at Transformers: Earth Wars Wiki]

{{chargamestub|{{storylink|Transformers: Earth Wars}}}}

===''Transformers Roleplaying Game''===
Cybertronian mythology held that Onyx Prime, sometimes known as Onyx Primal, was a member of the [[Thirteen]] and the progenitor of all beast-formers. According to legend, he wielded the Triptych Mask and commanded the loyalty of the [[Titan (group)|Titan]] [[Chela]]. {{storylink|Technorganic Secrets}} A mystically-minded 'bot, Onyx Prime's mask granted him insights into the realms of life and death; ancient humans venerated him as {{w|Artemis}}, god of the hunt. {{storylink|Transformers One Sourcebook}}

Mindwipe believed himself to be a true child of Onyx Prime, although [[Simacore (G1)|Simacore]] vehemently disagreed. {{storylink|Technorganic Secrets}}

==Toys==
===''Power of the Primes''===
[[File:POTP-Titan-Onyx-Prime.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|''You've got a fire in your heart'']]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Predaking''' (Titan Class, [[2018]] / [[2026]])}}</ul>
:*''TakaraTomy name'': '''Predaking''' (プレダキング)
:*''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''PP-31'''
:*''TakaraTomy release date'': [[September 29]], 2018
:*''Accessories'': [[Onyx Matrix]] frame
{{toydesigner|[[John Warden]] and [[Lynsey Urban]] (Hasbro)|[[Hirofumi Ichikawa]] (detailing), [[Robby Musso]] (concept artist)}}

:''[[Power of the Primes (toyline)|Power of the Primes]]'' Onyx Prime is a [[Prime Master#Toys|Prime Master]], a small robot that turns into a "core" that can plug into the Prime Armor accessories that come with every ''Power of the Primes'' Deluxe and Voyager Class figure, as well as into the holders of Leader Class figures by replacing their central [[Matrix of Leadership/toys#Power of the Primes|Matrix]] core. He comes with the frame for the [[Onyx Matrix]]; when connected to the frame, he can hide in Predaking's chest, under Razorclaw's beast head. He can of course also fit into the Decoy Armor that came with the standard Prime Master Class figures.

: Having the same construction and capabilities as a [[Titan Master#Toys|Titan Master]], he can ride inside compatible Legends Class figures, Titan Master vehicle modes and their weapons, and even plug into the neck sockets meant for head-mode Titan Masters.

: He was only available packed in with the Titan Class [[Predaking (G1)#Power of the Primes|Predaking]]. This set was reissued in 2026, with pre-orders going up on [[November 7]], [[2025]].

: Onyx Prime was [[repurposing|repurposed]] as the [[Matrix Gauntlet|Yellow Matrix]] wielded by [[Yellow Splendid Convoy]] in the ''[[Generations Selects Special Comic]]''.
{{--}}

===''Age of the Primes''===
[[File:AOTP-OnyxPrime.jpg|thumb|upright|300px|Leader class... optional six limbed mode... transforms into *shrug*... close enough, welcome back ''Siege'' Shockwave!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-pr8|'''The Thirteen Onyx Prime''' (Leader Class, [[2025]])}}</ul>
:*''TakaraTomy name'': '''Onyx Prime''' (オニキスプライム)
:*''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''AOTP-22'''
:*''TakaraTomy release date'': [[January 31]], 2026
:*''Accessories'': "[[Triptych Mask#Age of the Primes|Triptych Mask]]"/spearhead, spear pole/arrow, tail/bow
{{toydesigner|[[Mark Maher]] (Hasbro), [[Shuhei Umezu]] (TakaraTomy)|[[Marcelo Matere]] (concept artist), [[Aaron Archer]] and [[Ken Christiansen]] (original concept)}}<ref>[https://www.instagram.com/p/DHmaZHmsuTE/ Design notes on ''Age of the Primes'' Onyx Prime] from [[Hasbro]] designer [[Mark Maher]] on Instagram.</ref>

:''[[Transformers: Age of the Primes|Age of the Primes]]'' Onyx Prime was released as part of the second wave of Leader Class figures in the line. He transforms from a bipedal robot mode into a winged centaur in 12 steps, into a hippogriff/dragon-type creature in 19 steps, and into a more traditional quadrupedal dragon in 8 steps (shown only in the instructions). Additionally, an undocumented feature allows the centaur forelegs to wrap over the robot mode shoulder pads, and its hooves to peg into the tabs on said shoulder pads when the robot mode arms are in the hippogriff configuration, allowing for a slimmer (albeit less stable) version of the quadrupedal beast mode, or whatever else your imagination can come up with.

:For the bipedal robot mode or quadrupedal beast mode, there are two built-in configurations for the centaur forelegs slung over his shoulders. The first one involves tabbing the back of the legs into recesses sticking out of his back right underneath the wing hinges and then connecting the hooves to his chest, resulting in the hooves pointing at an inwards angle. This configuration has the disadvantage of hindering the arm articulation, as the shoulder pads get in the way. The second option involves pressing the centaur legs into dedicated tabs a little further towards the center, resulting in the hooves pointing straight down. This does not hinder articulation but is less secure.

:His [[Triptych Mask#Age of the Primes|Triptych Mask]] has been re-imagined as a spearhead, which attaches to a brown pole, perhaps in reference to character's then-recent appearance in ''Transformers One'', in which he wielded a similar weapon. All his accessories can be combined into a bow and arrow, with the spear doubling as an arrow and the beast mode tail converting into the accompanying bow. His robot mode face can be tucked up into the upper part of his helmet (shown in this position for the centaur mode), and his second set of legs can also be deployed in robot mode to mimic the “vestigial legs” look that was part of Shockwave’s Onyx Prime disguise as it appeared in the IDW comics.

:Onyx was revealed at [[Toy Fair|New York Toy Fair]] 2025.

::*''[https://www.instagram.com/p/DHmaZHmsuTE/ Designer commentary on ''Age of the Primes'' Onyx Prime from Mark Maher on Instagram]''
::*''[[Source:Transformers Age of the Primes bios#AOTP22|Machine translation of Onyx Prime's TakaraTomy bio]]''
{{--}}

==Notes==
[[File:OnyxPrime cop idw infographic.jpg|thumb|upright=1.25]]
* Like other members of the Thirteen, Onyx Prime was once as a [[multiversal singularity]] who existed as one being across all space and time, but that is [[Shroud|no longer the case]].
* The artwork of Onyx Prime in the ''Covenant of Primus'' (at the top of this article) is a little hard to decipher, which for a while led many fans to believe that he had been drawn incorrectly in IDW's comics. Onyx was originally conceived as a centaur, as can clearly (if briefly) be glimpsed in his ''Prime'' cartoon appearance. However, the ''Covenant'' artwork depicts him rearing up on his hind legs, obfuscating his forelegs and supposedly leading several IDW artists to misinterpret his design, either mis-drawing his forelegs or omitting them entirely, thereby drawing him as a normal two-legged 'bot. [[The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|''Optimus Prime'' #18]] turned this into a subtle piece of foreshadowing: the ''real'' Onyx was a quadruped, but his natural stance was the one thing that the bipedal Shockwave could not replicate while impersonating him. In the years since, subsequent depictions of Onyx Prime—including ''[[Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)|Cyberverse]]'', ''[[Transformers One (film)|One]]'', and an apparent cameo in ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|EarthSpark]]''—have shifted over to depicting him as a biped. His ''[[Transformers: Age of the Primes|Age of the Primes]]'' toy splits the difference, and gives him both a bipedal robot mode and a centaur robot mode.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Onyx Prime''' (オニキスプライム ''Onikisu Puraimu'')
*''Mandarin:'' '''Ruì Tiān Xiāo''' (锐天骁)

==Gallery==
<gallery>
OP15-OnyxOnCaminus.jpg|IDW "Onyx Prime" (alias Shockwave)
One-Onyx-Prime.jpg|''One'' film trading card art.
OnyxPrime_OneConceptArt.jpg|''One'' film concept art.
AOTP Onyx Prime Hasbro China promo art.jpg|''Age of the Primes'' "biped" robot mode.
File:Onyx Prime AOTP CentaurMode.jpg|''Age of the Primes'' "centaur" robot mode.
File:Onyx Prime AOTP BeastMode.jpg|''Age of the Primes'' "quadruped" beast mode.
</gallery>

==References==
{{reflist}}

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[[Category:Age of the Primes characters]]
[[Category:Cyberverse Transformers]]
[[Category:Deep lore characters]]
[[Category:Earth Wars Transformers]]
[[Category:IDW (2005) Transformers]]
[[Category:One Transformers]]
[[Category:Prime Masters]]
[[Category:Prime Transformers]]
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[[Category:Transformers Roleplaying Game Transformers]]
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Netflix

2025-11-08T19:07:13Z

Alientraveller: /* Notes */

[[Image:Netflix.jpg|right|300px|]]
'''Netflix''' is a United States-based multinational home entertainment company. While beginning solely as a mail-order DVD rental service in the United States, it primarily operates as an online video streaming service featuring films and television series available in numerous countries across the globe. Netflix also hosts its own original content not found on any other network or service, including the ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron Trilogy (cartoon)|War for Cybertron Trilogy]]'' and ''[[Transformers: BotBots (cartoon)|BotBots]]'' animated series.

In 2012, [[Allspark (company)|Hasbro Studios]] signed a 10-year deal with Netflix allowing series from the Hasbro library to be included on Netflix's online streaming service.<ref>[http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/10/netflix-signs-multi-year-deal-with-hasbro-and-knowing-is-half/ Netflix signs multi-year deal with Hasbro -- and knowing is half the battle]</ref> In addition to legacy content, programs from [[Hub Network|The Hub]]/[[Discovery Family]] were included in the deal, with episodes premiering on the service after their broadcast seasons have ended. While multiple Transformers series were added to the service as a result of this, half of them were delisted in 2015, while the other half were reduced to only their first seasons in 2018. This deal expired in February 2022, leading to nearly every ''Transformers'' cartoon being delisted from the service over the following year in most regions, save for the United States; these were finally removed from the service in 2025, leaving only the Netflix exclusive series. Pursuant to Netflix's deal with pay channel {{w|Epix (TV channel)|Epix}}, films from the [[Paramount Pictures]] library were made available on the service several months after their original cable broadcast, though subsequent films like ''[[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts (film)|Rise of the Beasts]]'' now go straight to [[Paramount+]] first, only coming to Netflix much later.

In addition to video streaming, Netflix also has a presence in the mobile gaming space, with several mobile game releases that can only be played by those with an active Netflix subscription.

Currently, Netflix's streaming service is almost available worldwide, but their available catalog varies significantly from region to region (with the exception of Netflix originals, which are generally available in all regions), and content is constantly phased in and out depending on distribution agreements with the original rights holders. As a result, the lists below may be out of date at the time you're reading this, and are frequently subject to change:

==Transformers TV series — Available {{CURRENTYEAR}}==
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Country
! ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron Trilogy (cartoon)|War for Cybertron Trilogy]]''
! ''[[Transformers: BotBots (cartoon)|BotBots]]''
! ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|EarthSpark]]'' (Season 1)
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Argentina
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Australia
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Belgium
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Brazil
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Canada
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes*
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Colombia
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Czech Republic
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|France
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Germany
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Greece
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Hong Kong
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Hungary
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Iceland
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|India
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Israel
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Italy
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Japan
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Lithuania
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Malaysia
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Mexico
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Netherlands
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|New Zealand
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Philippines
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Poland
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Portugal
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Romania
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Russia
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Singapore
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Slovakia
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|South Africa
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|South Korea
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Spain
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Sweden
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Switzerland
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Thailand
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Turkey
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Ukraine
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|United Kingdom
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|United States
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|}

==Transformers films — Available {{CURRENTYEAR}}==
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Country
! ''[[Transformers (film)|Transformers]]''
! ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]''
! ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]''
! ''[[Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|Age of Extinction]]''
! ''[[Transformers: The Last Knight (film)|The Last Knight]]''
! ''[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]''
! ''[[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts (film)|Rise of the Beasts]]''
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Argentina
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Australia
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Belgium
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Brazil
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Canada
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Colombia
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Czech Republic
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
|-
| style="text-align:left"|France
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Germany
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Greece
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Hong Kong
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Hungary
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Iceland
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
|-
| style="text-align:left"|India
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Israel
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Italy
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Japan
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Lithuania
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Malaysia
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #FFD2D2" | No
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Mexico
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
|-
| style="text-align:left"|Netherlands
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
| style="background: #D2FFD2" | Yes
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==Transformers mobile games==
* ''[[Transformers: Forged to Fight]]''

==Discontinued Transformers TV series and movies==
* ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|The Transformers]]'' — Removed in 2015
* ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars: Transformers]]'' — Removed in 2015
* ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Transformers Animated]]'' — Removed in 2015
* ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' — Seasons 2–3 and ''[[Predacons Rising (Prime)|Predacons Rising]]'' removed in 2018, fully removed in 2025
* ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Transformers: Rescue Bots]]'' — Seasons 2–4 removed in 2018, Season 1 removed in 2022 (except USA), fully removed in 2025
* ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Transformers: Robots in Disguise]]'' — Seasons 2–4 removed in 2018, Season 1 removed in 2022 (except USA), fully removed in 2025
* ''[[Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)|Cyberverse]]'' — Season 1 removed in 2022, Season 2 removed in 2023 (except Russia), fully removed in 2025
* ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots Academy (cartoon)|Transformers: Rescue Bots Academy]]'' — Removed in 2024

==Notes==
* For several years, other services that carried ''Prime'', ''Rescue Bots'' or ''Robots in Disguise'' (such as [[Tubi]] or [[Hasbro#Streaming video|Roku]]) were missing their first seasons, presumably due to Netflix locking up exclusivity as a result of the aforementioned deal with Hasbro. This eventually passed in the leadup to the shows being removed from Netflix.
* Shortly after the launch of ''War for Cybertron Trilogy'', Netflix added eight characters from the series as selectable profile icons, including [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]], [[Elita One (G1)|Elita-1]], [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]], [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], and [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]].
* In 2022, [[Scanline]], a visual effects studio who worked on the [[live-action film series]], would be purchased by Netflix. While becoming the service's in-house effects studio, the deal between the two parties still has Scanline remain an independent company and free to work for other producers, similar to [[Industrial Light & Magic]]'s deal with [[Disney]].
* So far, ''[[Transformers Collaborative#Stranger Things × Transformers|Stranger Things]]'' is the only Netflix property ''Transformers'' has had a crossover with.

==References==
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* [http://www.netflix.com Netflix website]
* {{w|Netflix|Netflix on Wikipedia}}

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Nexus Prime

2025-11-05T16:18:27Z

Alientraveller: /* Notes */ Weird to omit COP established his current look

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[[Image:NexusPrimeflankedbyotherPrimes.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Insert batteries where?!]]
One of the [[Thirteen|original Thirteen Primes]], the wild and unpredictable '''Nexus Prime''' is the first [[combiner]]. He is the bearer of the immensely consequential [[Artifacts of the Primes|artifact]] known as the [[Enigma of Combination]] and the lord of [[Rarified Energon]]—the stuff of [[spark]]s themselves—granting him a variety of mysterious powers above and beyond many of his siblings. Nexus' go-to problem solving method of scattering himself to the four winds has often proved the cause of, and solution to, all of his and his resultant sub-selves' problems. He also has a habit of hoarding the legendary blades forged by his sister [[Solus Prime]] whether they belong to him or not, considering himself the safest pair(s) of hands. How much these antics relate to his reputation as the prankster of the Thirteen is up for interpretation. His fragments include:

*[[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]] (A-10 Thunderbolt II, left leg)— a deep space explorer with the ability to project [[Force field|forcefields]]
*[[Landquake (Timelines)|Landquake]] (anti-aircraft tank, right arm)— a disaffected soldier with the power to forge [[Energon weapon|energon weapons]] unaided
*[[Breakaway (Classics)|Breakaway]] (fighter jet, left arm)— a mystical guardian with preternatural healing abilities
*[[Topspin (Classics)|Topspin]] (helicopter, right leg)— a credulous refugee with the power to manipulate sparks
*[[Heatwave (Timelines)|Heatwave]] (armored personnel carrier, torso)— a cheerful technician with ability to "speak" machinery to life

Unlike many of his descendants, Nexus Prime is highly mutable and not beholden to a single set of components. In [[Aligned continuity family|a different universe]], Nexus instead split himself into:

*[[Clocker (Prime)|Clocker]]— a [[Velocitron]]ian racer
*[[Mainspring]]— a Velocitronian mechanic
*[[Chaindrive]]— an Autobot soldier
*[[Pinion]]— a [[Junkion (species)|Junkion]] trader
*[[Cannonspring]]— a lost Cybertronian

Oh yeah, and he is responsible for [[Shroud|splintering]] himself and [[Multiversal singularity|his brethren]] across the [[Multiverse|multiverse]]. That was a pretty significant thing that happened.

He is sometimes, unfortunately, known as '''[[#Naming issues|Nexus Maximus]]'''.

==Fiction==
===Fun Publications===
When the Thirteen visited ancient Earth of some universal streams, Nexus Prime used a [[holomatter]] avatar which inspired the myth of the goddess Hera, trusted confidant of Zeus, who was [[Prima]]'s holomatter avatar. [[Vector Prime]] shared many fond memories with his siblings, including Nexus, and noted that there were universal streams where Nexus was known as Nexus [[Convoy (rank)|Convoy]].

Nexus Prime, Vector Prime, [[Alpha Trion]], and [[Solus Prime]] made the decision to split Nexus Prime into five pieces to conceal the location of the five fragments of Prima's [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|Star Saber]] sword, a weapon that could destroy star systems, from their evil brother [[The Fallen|Megatronus]]. Using the blade of the Star Saber, Nexus Prime was cut into five other robots: [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]], [[Landquake (Timelines)|Landquake]], [[Breakaway (Classics)|Breakaway]], [[Topspin (Classics)|Topspin]], and [[Heatwave (Timelines)|Heatwave]], who were subsequently scattered across the [[multiverse]] and lost to the ages. {{Storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}

But the skills of Nexus Prime are needed once again, and now that his components have been called together by Primus, he searches the multiverse for the components to the Star Saber sword, armed with his masterful control over all uses of [[energon]], and ability to manipulate [[spark]]s.

[[Image:Clubcombinercarving.jpg|200px|thumb|They drew his limbs arranged incorrectly!]]
The [[Caretaker]] told its components that Nexus Prime was "designated a [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]", like the other original thirteen. {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 6}}

When Landquake, Breakaway, Topspin, and Heatwave made an attempt to use their powers to revive the recently assassinated [[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]], they were transported—along with a revived Skyfall—to the presence of [[Primus]] in the "afterlife". He gave them a choice of living (or staying dead) as they were, or being reborn as what they were meant to be. After the gestalt members made their deliberations, Primus declared, "The choice is made. Arise, Nexus Prime," as they started the transformation. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 5}}

[[Image:OmegaDoomNexusPrimeGalvatron.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Behold the fingers my toy totally doesn't have!]]

Nexus Prime [[Reformatting|reformatted]] the dead Megatron into the powerful Galvatron, investing in him some of the power of the Thirteen. The two exited the Decepticon stronghold to counter [[Omega Doom]]'s offensive, but they were forced to split up when Doom launched a starkilling missile into Cybertron's sun. Though his Decepticon components protested leaving the battle, Nexus Prime knew saving this Cybertron's star system was of more immediate importance. Regardless, he was too late in stopping the missile, and its energies began to destroy the sun. Nexus began to concentrate.

Nexus returned to Cybertron triumphant, having used his own powers to negate those of the starkilling missile, and he made short work of Omega Doom, saving Galvatron in the nick of time. Though there was more on this Cybertron to do, such as finishing [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]] once and for all, Nexus Prime knew he had to depart this universe. After saying goodbye to [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]], he entered a portal with [[Aquarius (SG)|Aquarius]], trusting fate to bring him to the correct destination. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 6}}

Nexus Prime and Aquarius traveled from world to world, but without finding what Nexus Prime was looking for. Eventually, the pair arrived on [[Primax 509.28 Epsilon|one universe]]'s [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], where they were attacked by a group of smaller Decepticons who thought they had an easy mark. Though Nexus Prime was unwilling to use his more supernatural powers, lest he draw unwanted attention towards himself, he was still able to easily beat their attackers. As they left the group of dazed Decepticons behind, Nexus Prime and Aquarius wandered through a Cybertronian marketplace. Finally, Nexus Prime began to drop hints about what [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|mysterious artifact]] he was looking for; he hadn't yet clued Aquarius in. Ultimately, Nexus Prime spotted a shipping container with an [[Elite Guard]] symbol on it. This unlocked a memory in the ancient Transformer, allowing him to determine their next destination. He and Aquarius vanished through another portal to yet another dimension. {{storylink|The Coming Storm: Part 1}}

After several unspecified adventures, Aquarius ended up in Axiom Nexus and took charge of a shard of the Star Saber from a [[Chifumi Takahashi|courier]]. In exchange, he promised to help her get home. {{storylink|Transformers I.Q.#issue 48|Transformers I.Q. last issue review}} To their surprise, however, they ended up on the Cybertron of Aquarius's home reality. It soon became obvious that Nexus had transported them there in order to receive the [[Origin Matrix]], the fifth and final piece, from [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Ultra Mammoth]]. {{storylink|Transformers I.Q.#issue 54|Transformers I.Q. trivia bonus #12}} {{storylink|Falling into Place}}

[[File:AnotherLight-choppitychop.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.66|"...''Transformers: Prime'' will never make a dozen episodes about finding you."]]

While waiting for Nexus Prime's arrival, Ultra Mammoth confronted his negative counterpart [[Ultra Magnus (SG)|Ultra Magnus]], who was wielding the [[Terminus Blade]] on Earth. After the Origin Matrix inadvertently supercharged the Blade, Nexus Prime's components arrived in time to combine the Matrix with the other elements to reform the Star Saber. Prima's great sword severed the evil Magnus's arm, and Nexus Prime banished the insane Autobot to a dimension suitable for his temperament. With the Star Saber and Terminus Blade in hand, Nexus Prime set about undoing what damage he could from Magnus's abuse of the weapon. {{storylink|Restoration}}

In multidimensional space, Nexus Prime found he could not undo the destruction of universes already caused by the Terminus Blade. Aware that his actions would not be without consequences to himself, Nexus Prime brought the Saber and Blade together. He strengthened the existing walls between dimensions to prevent further inter-universe decay. He bolstered dying universes that had not yet succumbed to Ultra Magnus, hoping they might still survive. In the process, however, the strengthened walls could no longer support the fluidity of multiversal singularities. Nexus Prime felt himself and his fellow Thirteen splintering, existing as independent beings in each reality they manifested in, instead of thirteen singularities. {{storylink|Out of the One, Many}} In [[Primax -408.24 Epsilon|one universe]], Nexus Prime's individual components reconstituted themselves as a group of low-ranking Decepticons known as Heatwave, [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skytop]], [[Landquake (Timelines)|Landfall]], [[Breakaway (Classics)|Quakebreak]], and [[Topspin (Classics)|Spinaway]]. Although they retained their ability to combine, this "new" Nexus Prime was significantly less coordinated than his predecessor, and his components didn't believe the stories that they had once been some kind of multiversal guardian. {{storylink|Coalescence}}
{{--}}

===Aligned continuity family===
====''The Covenant of Primus''====
[[Image:5NexusPrime.jpg|thumb|200px]]
Nexus Prime was the seventh member of the Thirteen created by Primus with the purpose of fighting against and defeating Unicron. As the first and greatest combiner, he could separate himself into multiple independent components and combine them at will. Nexus, like his siblings who were created between [[Prima]] and [[The Fallen|Megatronus]], was balanced between the personalities of Primus and Unicron.

Nexus was part of the '''Free Agents''', which included [[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]], [[Solus Prime]], and the [[Thirteenth Prime]]: capable of both direct battle and subtle attacks. As the Primes trained with each other, Solus created the [[Cyber Caliber]] for him, which could split into smaller swords. Nexus would follow Solus into the portal leading to Unicron, entering Unicron's body to harm him from within. All of Nexus' components struggled with the overpowering corruption of Unicron's Dark Energon, but the words of ''Thirteen'', "All Are One", would help him keep fighting. Eventually, Unicron was defeated and Nexus returned to Cybertron with his siblings.

As the [[Age of Primes]] began, Nexus devoted his time to his creative interests, having no interest in the politics of Prima's group. During the [[War of the Primes]], when the Primes came together to vote on whether [[Liege Maximo]]'s [[Farm]] should be shut down or not, Nexus voted with Prima to shut it down. Sometime later, Nexus would join Prima, [[Vector Prime]], [[Alpha Trion]], [[Micronus Prime]], and ''Thirteen'' in finding Megatronus after the death of Solus Prime. Nexus would take his Cyber Caliber when all the Primes visited the Farm, which led to infighting among the Primes.

Nexus Prime would survive the War of the Primes, but the memory of his existence would fade away into myth and legend. Several stellar cycles later, the five components of Nexus Prime -- [[Cannonspring]], [[Mainspring]], [[Pinion]], [[Clocker (Prime)|Clocker]], and [[Chaindrive]] -- would briefly reunite as Nexus Prime, giving [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] his sword. {{storylink|Transformers: The Covenant of Primus|The Covenant of Primus}}

====Aligned novels====
Known as the "Wizard of Forms", Nexus Prime was all about change and mutability. When standing alone, his body seemed to shift or be overlaid with ever-changing forms and combinations he might take. Powerful, proud, and frequently unpredictable even to those who knew him best, Nexus Prime was full of good humor and a bit of a prankster at times. He was the "mad experimenter" of the Thirteen and is fascinated by changing states of matter and the creation of new elements in solar forges. This shared affinity for creation led [[Solus Prime]], the "Maker" of the Thirteen, to have special feelings for Nexus, which in turn seemed to have earned him the enmity of [[The Fallen|Megatronus]] and [[Liege Maximo]].

Nexus Prime was last seen by Alpha Trion before the [[Age of Wrath]], taking custody of many of Solus Prime's creations, including the Cyber Caliber, the [[Chaos Edge]], the [[Blades of Time]], and the [[Omni Saber]].
The Omni Saber was a part of Nexus Prime's body, and he secreted the Cyber Caliber away inside his form as well before splitting himself into five component robots: Clocker, Mainspring, Chaindrive, Pinion, and Cannonspring.
Each component held a fraction of the Cyber Caliber within themselves and was also charged with guarding one of the Blades of Time. Only by assembling the Blades of Time and using them to open a gateway to the hollow [[Realm of the Primes|realm]] of Vector Prime could the Cyber Caliber be reassembled. The [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|Star Saber]] was believed to have been taken by Nexus Prime but was not in his possession during the [[Great Exodus]].

The sub-selves of Nexus Prime scattered throughout the colony worlds of Cybertron. They remained apart for so long that each forgot their true nature, and no longer recalled being part of Nexus Prime or the Thirteen. All but Cannonspring even forgot their duty to safeguard the Blades of Time and the Cyber Caliber. Clocker and Mainspring wound up on [[Velocitron]], where they remained slightly out of place as mechanics instead of the speed-driven racers who ruled the planet. Pinion ended up on [[Junkion (planet)|Junkion]], assimilating well into the culture (perhaps because the Junkion way of constantly reusing materials appealed to the subconscious preference of Nexus Prime for change). Chaindrive found himself on Cybertron, and eventually became part of the Autobot resistance movement alongside [[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]] and Alpha Trion after the Ark's departure. Cannonspring ended up in a crippled ship in Cybertron's deep orbit, until the prospector [[Axer (Prime)|Axer]] triggered some latent transwarp energy on board, transporting them both to Junkion. Cannonspring remained inert for over a million years inside his ship after it crashed.

Nexus Prime began to come together once more thanks to the Matrix, which directed Optimus Prime through space to the various colony worlds. As the Ark came to Velocitron, Optimus discovered two pieces of the Blades of Time and fatefully agreed to bring Clocker and Mainspring on the next leg of his journey when they asked. On Junkion, Prime encountered Pinion while recovering a third Blade, and the fourth was retrieved from Axer. Meanwhile, back on Cybertron, Alpha Trion and [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] concocted a method of sending a scout after Optimus Prime by keying residual Space Bridge energy to the signature of the Matrix. Instinctively, Alpha Trion decided Chaindrive was the proper choice, and he brought with him the fifth Blade. Once all five Blades and the other four components assembled on Junkion, the combined energy was enough to rekindle the inert Cannonspring, bringing him back to full functioning and allowing them to reassemble into Nexus Prime.

Displaying the ability to hold more weapons than an armory, Nexus Prime pulled forth both his Omni Saber and the Chaos Edge, and also passed the Cyber Caliber over to Optimus Prime. Although he refused to kill anyone, Nexus Prime essentially held off the Decepticons and the [[Star Seeker]]s for a time, on intimidation alone. As [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] and [[Thundertron]] left to pursue other goals, Nexus Prime reclaimed his swords and gave some last words of encouragement to Optimus Prime before splitting himself once more. Reduced to a new set of five protoforms, Nexus Prime vanished into space and the annals of history once more. {{storylink|Transformers: Exiles|Exiles}}

====''Prime'' cartoon====
[[Image:OneShallRise1-TheThirteen.jpg|left|thumb|The second one on the left.]]
According to legend, at the beginning of time, [[Unicron]] and [[Primus]] battled each other for eons, with neither side remaining victorious for long. Till, that is, Primus created the [[Thirteen]]. These Thirteen defeated Unicron and cast him into space. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}
{{--}}

===2005 IDW continuity===
{{first|[[Earthfall Part 3: The Mind Bomb|''Robots in Disguise'' #30]] (mentioned); [[The Crucible|#34]] (depicted)}}

[[File:OriginMyths-ThePrimes.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Love child of Silverbolt and Wheeljack.]]

In the primitive age that followed the departure of the [[Knights of Cybertron]], Nexus Prime joined his [[Thirteen Tribes|tribe]] with those of [[Solus Prime|Solus]], [[Vector Prime|Vector]], [[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]] and [[Alpha Trion]] in [[Crystal City]]. Like the other four, he knew [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Onyx Prime]] but he himself was disgusted by Onyx's bestial horde and took time to become acclimated to them. He had a brother in the east who ruled his own kingdom. {{storylink|Origin Myths}} Nexus was the first recorded owner of the mysterious artifact known as the [[Enigma of Combination]]. He evidently chose to keep the artifact's true nature as a physical object a secret, with most believing the "Enigma" part of the name referred to a puzzle that had to be solved to allow for [[Combiner|combination]]. {{storylink|The Crucible}}

One evening, Vector Prime barged in on a meeting to announce the approach of Onyx and [[Liege Maximo|a crony]], as well as the news that [[Septimus Prime]] had perished and that [[The Fallen|the conqueror]] of [[Protihex|his lands]] was on the warpath across Cybertron. Despite Solus and Onyx's dismissal, Nexus felt Septimus had still been a Prime such as they were before he asked who Onyx's minion was, the newcomer introducing himself as Liege Maximo, who had also lost his lands to the army of [[Darklands|Darklanders]]. At Alpha Trion's urging, the Primes allowed Onyx and Liege Maximo into their alliance. When the time of battle came, Nexus wished to join his followers in combat but remained behind at Solus's urging. After the [[Titan (group)|Titans]] arrived, Onyx leapt into the fray only to recognize the enemy commander as his old friend Megatronus. Nexus was shocked at this development, before the eight Primes joined forces. In the aftermath, [[Arcee (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Arcee]] expressed the belief that the alliance would attract Nexus's brother to him. {{storylink|Origin Myths}} Unbeknownst to the Primes, the 'bot they believed to be Onyx Prime was in fact a time-travelling Shockwave from ten million years in the future who had engineered the entire conflict to bring the Primes together as history recorded. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

[[File:RID34 enigma of combination.jpg|thumb|left|250px|My Enigma don't go to none if they're lowborn, hun.]]

Power turned Nexus into something of a git really, believing that all non-Primes should serve their Prime masters. {{storylink|The Crucible}} Among the members of his court was a [[Titan Master]] by the name of [[Infinitus]], who wholeheartedly believed in his master's elitist approach to social engineering. {{storylink|White Heat}} The Thirteen Primes ruled their planet peacefully until Liege Maximo and Megatronus conspired together, goaded on by Shockwave's machinations, and started the [[First Cybertronian Civil War]] via the murder of Solus Prime. While Megatronus fled Cybertron, Nexus and [[Quintus Prime|Quintus]] managed to restrain Maximo, before trying and exiling him aboard [[Vigilem]]. {{storylink|Heavy}} {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

Nexus allied himself with "Onyx Prime" during the war and used his [[Enigma of Combination]] to create the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]]: humanoid Transformers combined with beasts. {{storylink|The Crucible}} [[Galvatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Galvatron]] found the whole concept disgusting and single-handedly slaughtered the Headmasters before coming after Nexus himself. Nexus sneered that Galvatron was a "lowborn" that couldn't kill him, and Galvatron responded by doing just that. The realization that a Prime could be killed by someone other than another Prime caused most of the remaining Primes to flee the planet. {{storylink|The Crucible}}

He was survived by Infinitus, who vowed to keep his master's teachings alive and eventually apply them to all of Cybertron–especially the parts about forced servitude to the Primes. {{storylink|White Heat}} Nexus's [[Titan (group)|Titan]], [[Devisiun (Titan)|Devisiun]], also survived the war and colonized [[Devisiun (planet)|a planet]] in honor of his master which the younger Shockwave eventually seeded with [[Ore-5]]. {{storylink|Ceremony|The Lost Colonies of Cybertron}}
{{--}}

===''Prime Wars Trilogy'' cartoons===
[[Victorion]] claimed to only follow the will of Nexus Prime, though she admitted he hadn't given her any new guidance in some time. {{storylink|Desperate Actions}}

===''Power of the Primes'' marketing material===
Nexus Prime's [[Spark]] passed into the possession of one of the twelve [[Prime Master]]s; hidden within a suit of decoy armor, they safeguarded the abilities of the Primes until the present day. By uniting with a larger Transformer, the Prime Master could channel the powers of Nexus's Spark and grant them unique abilities that varied with each new partner. {{storylink|Power of the Primes (toyline)|Power of the Primes}}

{{note|For a list of every permutation of Nexus Prime's abilities, see [[Prime Master/Combinations|this link]].}}

===''Cyberverse'' cartoon===
Nexus Prime was one of the [[Thirteen]]. {{storylink|Dweller In The Depths (Cyberverse)|Dweller In The Depths}} {{storylink|Silent Strike}} {{storylink|The Other One}}

Nexus Prime eventually passed, being buried with all of his worldly possessions on another planet. Following the [[Quintesson]] invasion of Cybertron, [[Grimlock (Cyberverse)|Grimlock]] and [[Arcee (Cyberverse)|Arcee]] grave-robbed him. {{storylink|The Immobilizers}}

===2019 IDW continuity===
[[File:SeaOfRustI-NexusPrime.jpg|thumb]]
Nexus Prime, the holder of the Enigma of Combination, was one of the Thirteen Primes. {{storylink|Lord of Misrule: Sea of Rust I|Sea of Rust I}} It was said that Primus had created Nexus as a being of controlled chaos, introducing necessary change into Cybertronian society to prevent stagnation. {{storylink|Lord of Misrule: Enigmatic|Enigmatic}}

===''One'' film===
{{voiceactor|[[Manuel Pérez]] (Latin-American Spanish)}}
One of the original Thirteen Primes, Nexus Prime ruled alongside his fellows until the [[Quintesson]]s invaded Cybertron. When the Primes were directed by [[Sentinel Prime (One)|Sentinel]] to a meeting of Quintesson generals, they found it an ambush. Despite being caught off-guard, the Primes managed to turn the tide of the battle before Sentinel betrayed them, stabbing Nexus and using his weapon to slay several of the Primes. Fifty cycles later, the spirits of the Primes appeared before Orion Pax when he was bestowed the [[Matrix of Leadership]] and became [[Optimus Prime (One)|Optimus Prime]]. {{storylink|Transformers One (film)|One}}
{{--}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: Earth Wars''===
;'''Nexus Prime Core'''
[[File:Earth Wars Nexus Prime Core.jpg|thumb|upright=0.6]]

Nexus Prime's [[Prime Master#Transformers: Earth Wars|Prime Core]] (his "heart" as one of the primordial [[Thirteen|Thirteen Primes]]) fell to Earth under mysterious circumstances along with those of his siblings to become a hotly contested resource in the [[Earth Wars (conflict)|Earth Wars]]. {{storylink|Power of the Primes (Earth Wars)|Power of the Primes}}

*'''Effect:''' Additional damage to enemy [[Transformers: Earth Wars#Combiners|Combiner]]s. If the [[Transformers: Earth Wars#Standard Bots|Bot]] this Core is affixed to is deployed before your Combiner phase, your Combiner has increased attack power and damage negation.

[https://tfew.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4733780017183-Prime-Cores-Bot Nexus Prime Core at Transformers: Earth Wars Wiki]

{{chargamestub|{{storylink|Transformers: Earth Wars}}}}

===''Transformers Roleplaying Game''===
Nexus Prime was a stalwart ally of Prima and the first combiner. {{storylink|Transformers One Sourcebook}} At the dawn of history, Nexus Prime received the [[Enigma of Combination]]. Some historical texts instead remembered him instead as "Nexus Maximus", {{storylink|The Enigma of Combination}} his original name, {{storylink|Transformers One Sourcebook}} while some ancient humans knew him as {{w|Juno (mythology)|Juno}}. {{storylink|The Enigma of Combination}}

==Toys==
===''Cybertron'', ''Classics'', and ''Timelines''===
[[Image:Timelinestoy-NexusMaximus.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Remember to use the instructions! You don't want to put something in the wrong hole.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|[[Skyfall (Cybertron)#Cybertron|Skyfall]] ([[2005]])}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|[[Landquake (Timelines)#Timelines|Landquake]] ([[2006]])}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|[[Breakaway (Classics)#Classics|Breakaway]] ([[2007]])}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|[[Topspin (Classics)#Classics|Topspin]] ([[2008]])}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-sd|[[Heatwave (Timelines)#Timelines|Heatwave]] ([[2009]])}}</ul>
{{toydesigner|[[Dan Khanna]] (concept artist)}}

:Nexus Maximus is composed of his five team members, with Heatwave forming his central body component. His limbs' [[energon weapon]]s form his hands and feet. Conisisting of [[redeco]]s of components of the ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' combiners, Nexus Maximus, just like [[Superion Maximus]], [[Bruticus Maximus (Energon)|Bruticus Maximus]], and [[Constructicon Maximus]], features universal connection points for the limbs, allowing many different combinations and even swapping of limbs from different teams, in a fashion very similar to ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]'''s "[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)#1986 (Scramble City and Transformers 2010)|Scramble City]]"-type combiner teams. Unlike the other Maximus-style combiners, Nexus Maximus features four unique molds for his limb pieces, rather than two redecoed to fit both the legs and arms, due to him using both [[Destruction Team]] and [[Air Team]] molds. Whereas the individual components' robot modes still feature the same head sculpts as the ''Energon'' figures they're redecoed from, the combined form of Nexus Maximus himself was given an entirely new, unique head sculpt, which is an amalgamation of visual elements of its components' own heads: Skyfall's eyes, Landquake's chin, Breakaway's forehead, Topspin's "mohawk", and Heatwave's "ears".

:Nexus Maximus is the combined form of the first five [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] freebie toys, which were released over the span of five years.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/TFCCNexusMaximus/nexusmaximus.htm More information on Nexus Maximus at TFU.info]''
{{--}}

===''Power of the Primes''===
[[File:TF-PotP-SDCC-2018-Throne-of-the-Primes-Nexus-Prime.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb]]
<ul class = "iconlist>{{Bp-m1|'''Throne of the Primes''' (Leader Class, [[2018]])}}</ul>
:*''Takara ID number'': '''PP-43'''
:*''TakaraTomy release date'': [[January 26]], [[2019]]
{{toydesigner|[[Marcelo Matere]] (throne designer, packaging artist)}}

:''[[Power of the Primes (toyline)|Power of the Primes]]'' Nexus Prime is a retool of the [[Maccadam#Power of the Primes|Alchemist Prime]]/[[Submarauder (G1)#Power of the Primes|Submarauder]] inner robot with a new [[Prime Master]] sigil/backpack, packaged in the [[Throne of the Primes#Toys|Throne of the Primes]] set.

:This toy has identical features to the other Prime Masters in the line. The [[Titan Master]]-like robot can store inside decoy armor or ride [[Size class|Legends Class]] figures in vehicle mode, and is fully compatible with toys from the previous ''[[Titans Return (toyline)|Titans Return]]'' line. The "Power Swap" gimmick means its [[spark]] form can plug onto any decoy armor's weapon form (which has a [[5 mm post]] to be held by larger figures), Deluxe Class figures' chest armor, Voyager Class figures' bucklers, Leader Class figures' [[Matrix of Leadership/toys#Power of the Primes|Matrix]] (in place of their Matrix core), [[combiner]]s' torsos (in place of their [[Enigma of Combination]]), or the included [[Scepter of Sparks]] or [[Halo of Primus]] accessories. With the power of [[you]]r imagination, this bestows the Prime Master's [[Prime Master/Combinations|unique power]] on the larger figure.

:While Nexus is a retool of Alchemist Prime (gang-molded with his included Submarauder decoy armor), it is unknown what gang-molded decoy armor Nexus would have had as a hypothetical mass-retail Prime Master.

:This set debuted at [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2018, and was later sold via [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] online. It was also available at general retail in Taiwan.
{{--}}

==Notes==
[[File:NexusPrimeDanKhannaConcept.jpg|thumb|Original ''Timelines'' concept art]]
[[File:NexusPrimeHead.jpg|thumb|]]
*It's hard to say what toyline Nexus Prime is from, as Fun Publications' output hopped imprints twice over the course of his components' release. This was almost certainly an intentional move for the sake of the multiverse schtick, as Fun Pubs' contemporary convention-exclusive releases sported their in-house ''[[Transformers Timelines (franchise)|Timelines]]'' branding from the jump. To date, the only other instance of this phenomenon has been the ''[[Prime Wars Trilogy|Prime Wars]]''/''[[War for Cybertron Trilogy (franchise)|War for Cybertron]]'' changeover straddler [[Orthia]].
*Nexus Prime's backstory bears a noticeable similarity to that of {{w|Voltron}}.
*Fun Publications stated at [[BotCon 2009]] that the official limb arrangement for Nexus Prime is that of the configuration in his instructions. With Landquake as the right arm, Breakaway as the left arm, Topspin as the right leg, and Skyfall as the left leg. Why he was depicted in a different arrangement in the caverns around the [[Caretaker]] no one knows.
*Ironically, despite being labeled as an Autobot, a majority of the Transformers that make up Nexus Prime are Decepticons, albeit ones that are [[Landquake (Timelines)|disenchanted by the Decepticon cause]], [[Topspin (Classics)|misled by deceitful leaders]], or [[Heatwave (Timelines)|a completely different kind of Decepticon]].
*Nexus Prime's TFCC magazine profile mentions that he "no longer has an [[alternate mode]]", due to being split apart for so long and then reassembled.
*With his components released one at a time, one per year, he's the combiner toy it took the longest to complete in an official capacity.
*Like other members of the Thirteen, Nexus was originally established as a [[multiversal singularity]] who existed as one being across all space and time, but that is [[Shroud|no longer the case]].
*Nexus Prime's head design has been subject to some confusion. The design is meant to invoke a superhero cowl (similiar to [[Batman]]), with his head covered in armor but his mouth exposed. However the deco used for his mouth is almost completely black, making it difficult to see, with many mistaking that part as a visor, and interpreting his actual eyes as forehead detail. ''The Covenant of Primus'' reinterpreted Nexus' mouth as a visor and his chin as a [[mouthplate]], something subsequent incarnations (including the ''[[Transformers One (film)|Transformers One]]'' design) followed suit with.

===Naming issues===
[[Fun Publications]] originally submitted the possible names '''Prime Nexus''' and '''Maximus Prime''' to [[Hasbro]] for the character (reflecting the fact that the character is a Prime in-fiction), Hasbro rejected these, apparently because they were feeling protective towards the use of the name Prime (despite previously having approved the fiction that named him a Prime, written by their own [[Forest Lee]]). Hasbro suggested merging the non-Prime segments of the two names instead... oops.

Apparently neither Hasbro nor Fun Publications did their research when naming Nexus Maximus, because there is another product which shares that name and was, as of [[May 24]], [[2009]], the top Google result (websites relating to this character have since surpassed it). While it is definitely a "toy", it is most assuredly not intended for ages 5 and up. According to the Fun Publications Club panel at [[BotCon 2009]], Hasbro did a search for the name with "safe search" on, causing them to not see... well, [http://www.edenfantasys.com/dildos/double-ended-dildos/nexus-maximus this]. '''NOTE: DEFINITELY NOT SAFE FOR WORK.'''

When he finally appeared in fiction, his name was, in fact, given as Nexus Prime, which makes much better sense story-wise but deprives us of many cheap and easy joke opportunities. [[Pete Sinclair]] posted an image on the [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] forums of [[Aquarius (SG)|Aquarius]] blaming the "Nexus Maximus" name on a bad translation by [[Beta Maxx (RID)|Beta Maxx]]<ref>[https://tilallaremine.wordpress.com/2011/05/31/nexus-prime/ Definitely, definitely, *not* Nexus Maximus. Timelines Nexus Prime!] from 'Til All Are Mine blog. </ref>.

(The debate is still on as to whether Nexus Maximus constitutes a choking hazard.)

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Nexus Prime''' (ネクサスプライム ''Nekusasu Puraimu'')
*''Mandarin:'' '''Jīng Tiān Wěi''' (经天纬)

==Gallery==
<gallery>
NexusPrime-TFOnecardcropped.jpg|''One'' film
</gallery>

==References==
{{reflist}}

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[[Category:Combined forms]]
[[Category:Cyberverse Transformers]]
[[Category:Deep lore characters]]
[[Category:Dimension hoppers]]
[[Category:Earth Wars Transformers]]
[[Category:Fan Club-original characters]]
[[Category:IDW (2005) Transformers]]
[[Category:IDW (2019) Transformers]]
[[Category:Nexus Prime components| ]]
[[Category:One Transformers]]
[[Category:Prime Masters]]
[[Category:Shattered Glass Transformers]]
[[Category:Thirteen]]
[[Category:Timelines characters]]
[[Category:Transformers Roleplaying Game Transformers]]
[[Category:Wings Universe Transformers]]

Dinobot (AOE)

2025-11-03T14:29:14Z

Alientraveller: /* Notes */ added a link to the Para art

{{faction|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Dinobot}}
:''The Dinobots are an [[Autobot]] [[subgroup]] from the [[Movie continuity family]].''

[[File:Dinobots ready for battle AOE.jpg|thumb|300px|Also called the [[Michael Bay|Michael]] [[Primum Fugae|Fugae]].]]
The '''Dinobots''' are a group of Autobots who turn into [[dinosaur (dinosaur)|dinosaurs]], or at least things which mostly look like dinosaurs. While they bear the Autobot insignia, calling them a bunch of loose cannons would be an understatement. Answering mostly to their animalistic rage, it would take a serious display of superior might for these guys to follow anyone else's lead.

The group's main members are:
*[[Grimlock (AOE)|Grimlock]] (Robotic ''Tyrannosaurus'', leader)
*[[Scorn]] (Robotic ''Spinosaurus'')
*[[Slug (AOE)|Slug]] (Robotic ''Triceratops'')
*[[Strafe (AOE)|Strafe]] (Robotic 2-headed ''Pteranodon'')

While other members include:
*[[Slash (AOE)|Slash]] (Robotic ''Velociraptor'')
*[[Slog (AOE)|Slog]] (Robotic ''Apatosaurus'')
*[[Snarl (AOE)|Snarl]] (Robotic ''Stegosaurus'')

{{quote|Just. So. Awesome.|[[Transformers Comic issue 5.1]]}}

==Fiction==
===Movies===
====''Age of Extinction'' film====
[[File:AOE-DinobotsBraveWarriors.jpg|thumb|300px|right|The Autobots would later receive post cards from the Nesting Grounds.]]
The Dinobots (some of them, at least) were captured aboard [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]]'s ship as trophies until the Autobots detached that section to free [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]. When the ship eventually crashed in China, Optimus decided that time had come for reinforcements to battle [[Megatron (Movie)|Galvatron]]'s forces and freed the Dinobots, calling them to join him. Grimlock battled Optimus for dominance, but was beaten, and the Dinobots agreed to help the Autobots. The Dinobots' massive size, strength and ferocity turned the tide of battle in the Autobots' favor in the nick of time, swiftly defeating the prototypes in Hong Kong until Lockdown returned. The Dinobots were trapped in Lockdown's magnetic vortex, but Optimus destroyed it, freeing the Dinobots. The Dinobots helped hold a bridge so that Joshua Joyce could get to safety with the Seed. After the battle, Optimus dismissed the Dinobots from his command, allowing them to roam free on Earth, and the Dinobots parted on good terms with the Autobots and set off on their own.

Like that won't backfire someday. {{storylink|Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|Age of Extinction}}

====''The Last Knight'' film====
The Dinobots took refuge with the other Autobots in Cade Yeager's [[Junkyard (TLK)|junkyard]]. Since their alternate modes were too conspicuous, they hid themselves by digging underground tunnels and only coming out to feed. At some point, the Dinobots began reproducing through unknown means and gave birth to [[Mini Dinobot|at least three baby Dinobots]]. Unlike their larger counterparts, the Mini-Dinobots spent most of their time in Cade's house. When the Decepticons found the base and attacked, Grimlock and Slug burst out of hiding to defend their offspring and Autobot friends. After the battle, the Dinobots went back into hiding with most of the Autobot refugees and did not participate in the final battle against [[Quintessa (TLK)|Quintessa]]. {{storylink|Transformers: The Last Knight (film)|The Last Knight}}

===Ask Vector Prime===
In [[Tyran 609.23-PX Kappa]], Optimus Prime and [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]] allied themselves with the Dinobots after defeating Lockdown and capturing his ship. They waged a long guerrilla campaign against [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]'s Decepticons, eventually restoring freedom to Earth and revitalizing [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] with the [[seed]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/07/22}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark''===
{{charstubgame}}
{{storylink|Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark (console)|Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark}}

===''Transformers: Shadows Rising''===
{{chargamestub|{{storylink|Transformers: Shadows Rising}}}}

==Toys==
Despite their predictably dull colour schemes in the movie, most of their toys are [[Neon|drastically]] more colourful.

{{main|Grimlock (AOE)#Toys|Scorn#Toys|Strafe (AOE)#Toys|Slash (AOE)#Toys|Slug (AOE)#Toys|Slog (AOE)#Toys|Snarl (AOE)#Toys}}

==Notes==
* The Dinobots go unnamed in ''Age of Extinction'', bar Scorn getting nicknamed "Spike" by Crosshairs during the farewell at the end of the film, although Cade refers to Grimlock by name in ''The Last Knight''. The word "Dinobot" is never mentioned on-screen either, as Optimus only refers to them as "legendary warriors". Also, they don't speak but growl even in robot modes. Grimlock, Strafe, Slug, and Scorn appear in ''Age of Extinction'', yet only Grimlock and Slug reappear in ''The Last Knight'' alongside the [[Mini Dinobot]]s.
* ''Velociraptor'' Dinobots were at one point to appear on the big screen, with concept art showing them charging into Hong Kong alongside [[Scorn]].<ref>[https://studiomadeinpb.wordpress.com/2014/06/29/transformers-4-a-era-da-extincao-conheca-as-artes-conceituais-de-wesley-burt-para-o-filme/ Transformers: Age of Extinction concept art by Wesley Burt]</ref> Slash's own toy design is based on these pieces of concept art. Slash himself was most likely intended to appear on screen.
* Concept art by [[Ryan Church]] depicts two additional Dinobots, which transform into a ''[[w:Parasaurolophus|Parasaurolophus]]'' and an ''[[w:Allosaurus|Allosaurus]]''.<ref>[http://ryanchurch.com/transformers-4 Church's ''Transformers 4'' page]</ref>
* The Dinobots' robot modes are inspired by medieval knights. Ironically, they never transformed into their robot modes in ''The Last Knight.''

==References==
{{Reflist}}

[[Category:Age of Extinction Dinobots| ]]
[[Category:Age of Extinction subgroups]]
[[Category:Autobot subgroups]]
[[Category:Knights]]
[[Category:The Last Knight subgroups]]

Energon Universe

2025-10-23T15:35:07Z

Alientraveller: /* Development */

{{disambig2|the shared universe from [[Skybound Entertainment]]'s comics|the [[Transformers: Legacy#"Universe" designations|universe]] from ''[[Transformers: Legacy]]''|Transformers: Energon (franchise)}} 
[[File:Energon Universe logo.png|center|500px]] 

[[File:EU2ndAnniversary.jpg|thumb|right|upright=3|Well, it's not quite ''[[Transformers: Energon (franchise)|Energon]]'', and it's not quite ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 franchise)|Universe]]'', but man...]]

The '''Energon Universe''' is the name for the shared universe in which [[Skybound Entertainment]]'s comic books featuring licensed properties from [[Hasbro]] take place. Launched in [[2023]], these properties currently include [[Transformers (2023 comic)|an ongoing ''Transformers'' series]], a line of ''[[G.I. Joe (2024 comic)|G.I. Joe]]'' comics, and the original series ''[[Void Rivals]]''.

==Overview==
The aliens [[Darak]] and [[Solila]], members of two warring factions, become stranded on a deserted planet and are forced to work together to survive. While attempting to escape, the two come across the derelict form of the [[Transformer|Cybertronian]] [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]], who is restored to functionality and leaves to check on the state of his homeworld, [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].

Jetfire's journey brings him to the planet Earth, where he finds and reactivates the dormant [[Autobot]]s and [[Decepticon]]s and they resume their war. In response to their awakening, events are set into motion that will lead to the formation of the special ops team [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] and the terrorist organization [[Cobra]].

==Development==
[[Robert Kirkman]] first began developing the Energon Universe in [[2021]] after Hasbro approached Skybound about taking over the licenses for ''Transformers'' and ''G.I. Joe'' from [[IDW Publishing]]. Wanting to do something unique, Kirkman proposed launching the universe with a new property that would feature a surprise reveal in the first issue, which eventually became ''Void Rivals''. Along with writing ''Void Rivals'', Kirkman acts as a sort of "showrunner" for the rest of the Energon Universe line, with other creators working on the main ''Transformers'' and ''G.I. Joe'' comics.<ref>[https://www.ign.com/articles/robert-kirkman-void-rivals-shared-energon-universe-transformers-gi-joe How Robert Kirkman's Void Rivals Secretly Launches a Massive Shared Universe — IGN]</ref> It was named the Energon Universe after [[Joshua Williamson]] pitched the idea of integrating Energon into the ''Cobra Commander'' mini series.<ref>{{citesocial|quote=We were actually struggling for a name for the line, as Josh was developing Cobra Commander. He was like "I think I think they could find some Energon in the swamp here". And I was like "oh, Energon's in G.I. Joe now. I can put Energon in Void Rivals, super easy."
|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMTfuouxzEg&t=2889s|name=Robert Kirkman|site=YouTube|year=2025|month=05|day=12}}</ref>

In the letters page for [[Void Rivals issue 3|''Void Rivals'' #3]], Kirkman stated that there are currently no plans to integrate other Hasbro properties into the Energon Universe, though that could change in the future - something that did indeed occur in [[2025]] with the introduction of [[Matt Trakker]] and [[Miles Mayhem]] from ''[[M.A.S.K. (franchise)|M.A.S.K.]]'' into the universe. He also confirmed that they don't plan to have more than four series running at once. As of [[Void Rivals issue 15|''Void Rivals'' #15]], Kirkman has affirmed that the Energon Universe will "for the foreseeable future" consist solely of the ''Void Rivals'', ''Transformers'' and ''G.I. Joe'' ongoing titles to keep the line at a manageable, easy-to-follow size, with no plans to publish any additional miniseries in the style of the four ''G.I. Joe'' origin stories.

An animated series version, produced by Skybound and Hasbro with [[Joe Henderson]] attached as showrunner, was reported to be in-development in late 2025. Like the source material, it is meant to be aimed at an older audience than the typical ''Transformers'' viewer.<ref>[https://deadline.com/2025/10/energon-universe-adult-animated-series-joe-henderson-1236592776/ Deadline: Energon Universe Adult Animated Series Based On Comic From Hasbro & Skybound With Joe Henderson As Showrunner Hitting TV Marketplace]</ref>

==List of featured intellectual properties==
* ''[[Void Rivals]]'' (original)
* ''[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]''
* ''[[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]''
* ''[[M.A.S.K. (franchise)|M.A.S.K.]]''

==Titles==
===Ongoing series===
* ''[[Void Rivals]]''
* ''[[Transformers (2023 comic)|Transformers]]''
* ''[[G.I. Joe (2024 comic)|G.I. Joe]]''

===Limited series===
* ''[[Duke (comic)|Duke]]''
* ''[[Cobra Commander (comic)|Cobra Commander]]''
* ''[[Scarlett (comic)|Scarlett]]''
* ''[[Destro (comic)|Destro]]''

===Specials===
* ''[[Energon Universe 2024 Special]]''
* ''[[Energon Universe 2025 Special]]''

==Distribution and localization==
{| class="wikitable"
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!Publisher
!Country
!Language
|-
|[[Ades Media]]
|Sweden
|Swedish
|-
|Moztros Editorial
|[[Spain]]
|Spanish
|-
|Nagle Comics
|Poland
|Polish
|-
|OVNI Press
|Latin America
|Spanish
|-
|Panini Comics
|[[Germany]]
|German
|-
|saldaPress
|[[Italy]]
|Italian
|-
|Szukits Kiadó
|[[Hungary]]
|Hungarian
|-
|Tiandi Press
|[[China]]
|Chinese
|-
|Urban Comics
|[[France]]
|French
|}

==Toyline==
===Void Rivals===
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==Notes==
Previously, G.I. Joe comics fell out of this wiki’s purview unless they featured Transformers characters in them. For example, [[IDW Publishing]]’s [[G.I. Joe vol. 5]] is covered on this wiki due to the presence of [[Skywarp (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Skywarp]], but the preceding volumes are not. However, unlike prior publishers such as IDW and [[Marvel Comics]], the Energon Universe's non-Transformers properties are being incorporated into one cohesive universe right from the get-go, with Cybertronians appearing as recurring characters in ''Void Rivals'' and driving the plots of the various G.I. Joe series (and later appearing in them as well). As such, we at TFWiki.net have, at least for now, opted to cover the non-''Transformers'' titles in the Energon Universe in full, in order to keep everything nice and simple.

==See also==
* [[Hasbro Universe]]

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Crossovers]]
[[Category:Skybound Entertainment]]

User talk:Daniel Adkins

2025-10-23T15:25:56Z

Alientraveller:

Good work on adding the Revolution stuff, but please keep in mind that fiction sections are in past tense. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 12:57, 27 July 2016 (EDT)
:Oh, sorry about that. Thanks for the reminder. --[[User:DannyBoy|DannyBoy]] ([[User talk:DannyBoy|talk]]) 13:04, 27 July 2016 (EST)
::DannyBoy, it's Jtarvin. I apologized to everyone on my usertalk page.

Per our [[Transformers Wiki:Captions|captions page]], please don't blank captions or make them boring simply because you don't like them. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] ([[User talk:Alientraveller|talk]]) 11:06, 23 October 2025 (EDT)
:Please reread the Captions page. "For the people who wrote the text, or found and edited the images, this is their reward for that hard work. If you're not expanding the article, you really shouldn't be making jokes." Neither Chopperface nor Autobody contributed to those articles beyond adding those captions, while DannyBoy is our primary article writer for all our Energon Universe articles. Please be more careful when citing policy. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 11:19, 23 October 2025 (EDT)
::I apologise, I wasn't aware and assumed Danny was new. You're doing good work Danny. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] ([[User talk:Alientraveller|talk]]) 11:25, 23 October 2025 (EDT)

User talk:Daniel Adkins

2025-10-23T15:06:47Z

Alientraveller:

Transformers (2023) issue 4

2025-10-23T15:04:29Z

Alientraveller: /* Other trivia */

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|publisher=[[Image Comics]] [[Skybound Entertainment]]
|date=[[January 10]], [[2024]]
|coverdate=January 2024
|written by=[[Daniel Warren Johnson]]
|art by=Daniel Warren Johnson
|colors by=[[Mike Spicer]]
|letters by=[[Rus Wooton]]
|editors=[[Sean Mackiewicz]] & [[Jonathan Manning]]
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'''The Autobots put everything on the line to fend off a Decepticon onslaught and save Spike.'''

==Synopsis==
With the smoke from the battle in [[Farmingham]] still fresh, [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] arrives to confront the severely-damaged [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] about the whereabouts of the [[Autobot]]s. Skywarp directs Starscream east, after which the [[Decepticon]] leader departs, promising to return for Skywarp.

[[File:TF2023 no. 4 – Prime Runs Over Starscream.jpg|left|thumb]]
At the quarry, [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] is working on [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] when he receives a call for aid from [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], who is driving [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparky]] and the mortally-wounded [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike]] through the woods with Starscream hot on his tail. A blast from Starscream damages Optimus and cuts off the transmission, and Ratchet bemoans that his buddy's gonna have to wait... the Autobots need firepower. Back with the chase, Starscream lands in front of Optimus, only for [[Carly (G1)|Carly]] and [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] to emerge from hiding and knock the Decepticon off his feet, allowing Optimus to run over Starscream and escape with Cliff. Enraged, Starscream calls [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] for backup.

Our heroes soon arrive at the Farmingham Hospital, only for [[Laserbeak (G1)| Laserbeak]] to swoop in and barrage the group. Optimus and Cliff cover Sparky, Carly, and the medical staff as they rush Spike inside, but the Autobots are quickly caught off-guard by [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] and Soundwave. The latter prepares to execute Optimus, only for the arriving Starscream to tell him to wait — he's just realized, to his amusement, that this place is where the "squishy ones" go to get fixed, and has decided to make Optimus' death even more painful by blasting his precious humans' only hope of survival to smithereens. Inside, the doctors barely get Spike intubated before Starscream's assault begins, knocking the power offline. As Starscream relishes in the destruction he's causing, Soundwave alerts him to the impending approach of Ratchet and the "firepower" he's managed to bring back online — [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]]! The Decepticons focus their firepower on the new arrival as he drifts into action, but Jazz proves too slippery for them, and he quickly takes them down. Now outnumbered, Starscream orders Soundwave and the cassettes to retreat. Carly returns as the battle concludes, and Optimus asks her about Spike…

[[File:TF2023 4 – Prime Uses the Matrix.jpg|right|thumb]]
The Autobots look on through a hole in the hospital as the doctors inform Sparky that although Spike has been stabilized, the hospital's backup generator was evidently a casualty of the battle, and without power, Spike — along with the hospital's other life support patients — are all but guaranteed to die. Just as Sparky begins to mourn the loss of another son, however, a bright blue glow begins emanating from Optimus' opened chest compartment. Ratchet attempts to dissuade Optimus, but he won't have any of it — he's determined to prevent more deaths at any cost, removing the [[Matrix of Leadership]] from his chest and opening it up, the energy within re-powering the hospital. Relieved and in awe, the doctors hurry to get Spike to the I.C.U..

Meanwhile, the Decepticons, including Skywarp, return to the ''Ark''. Soundwave berates Starscream for another failure, criticizing his shortsightedness and lust for destruction, and Starscream swiftly snaps back, upset that Soundwave hasn't been able to repair [[Teletraan I|Teletraan One]] so they can finally bring their brothers back online and facilitate repairs. Soundwave reiterates that they don't have the materials they need to do so, as they only exist in Cybertronian technology. As he says this, the two turn to Skywarp... and then, despite his protests, begin tearing him apart.

Back at the hospital, Sparky talks to the comatose Spike about his desire to restart the family's lives and protect Spike from a world that he's lost the ability to see the good in. His attention soon turns outside to Optimus, who's obliging a young patient's interest in his ability to transform. Sparky then talks with Optimus about the Matrix: it was a gift Optimus had received many years ago, and he had used every last bit of its energy to re-power the hospital, leaving Spike's fate in the hands of the Great Spark. Sparky is confused at the idea of Optimus having a "god", since Optimus seems to fit the bill himself, a notion that amuses Optimus — Sparky is underestimating his own might.

[[File:TF2023 no. 4 – Ratchet and Prime go over their options.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.5]]
In the generator room, Optimus reunites with Jazz and Ratchet, who's finished fixing the hospital's generators. Ratchet berates his leader for his dangerous use of the Matrix, suggesting that he should've instead used it to fix himself — an idea Optimus finds abhorrent, given that the alternative would be letting the innocent humans die. Ratchet fires back that the humans aren't innocent; they're prone to anger and destruction... which, as Optimus muses, makes them just like Cybertronians. Just then, Jazz collapses — Ratchet had used up all the [[energon]] from the rest of their Autobot comrades' bodies to bring Jazz back online, but it was only ''just'' enough. Ratchet tells Optimus that they need to start thinking about themselves, as without a way to get more energon, the Autobots may as well be on death's door. However, Ratchet has something stashed in Optimus' trailer that might help the Autobots regain the initiative... which Optimus finds too disgusting to consider using. As Ratchet claims that they don't have much of a choice, Sparky interrupts them: he might have an idea regarding their energy problem...

Meanwhile, in a wrecked hospital room, Cliffjumper attempts to comfort the grief-stricken Carly, as he can relate to how she's feeling: long before the Autobots and Decepticons arrived on Earth, Starscream killed his entire clan (i.e. "family"), and he joined the war the very next day. Optimus then approaches, now equipped with a new arm that has a [[fusion cannon|large cannon]] mounted on the side, and asks Cliff if he's interested in going on the offensive. At the ''Ark'', Starscream's work of salvaging the still-living Skywarp for materials continues, as he triumphantly proclaims that he will forever be Decepticon leader... while in an Arctic region, an offline [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], badly damaged and conspicuously missing his right arm, remains partially embedded in ice.

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==Featured characters==
{{Featuredcharacters
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* [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] (2)
* [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] (2)
* [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] (3)
* [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] (4)
* [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] (9)

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* [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] (2)
* [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] (2)
* [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] (6)
* [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] (7)
* [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] (7)
* [[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]] (22)
* [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] (23)

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* [[Sparkplug Witwicky|"Sparky" Witwicky]] (3)
* [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] (3)
* [[Carly (G1)|Carly]] (4)
* [[Lio|Doctor]] (6)
* Hospital staff (6)
* Bed-ridden patient (7)
* Kid patient (16)
}}

==Quotes==
"'''Optimus: inferior.'''"
:-'''Soundwave''' insults the Autobot leader as he kicks him in the face.

"This... this is where they... '''fix''' the squishy ones. Is that right? You're so pathetic I can't even '''believe it!''' You bring these ants to a place to get '''repaired?'''"
:-'''Starscream''' has a sudden realization.

"What happens now... Is up to the Great Spark." 
"You mean... gods? Don't '''you''' fall into that category?" 
"Ha! Because of my size? I could say the same of you, human." 
"What, me? I'm nothing like--come on, look at me, compared to you!" 
"True. Small. But still mighty."
:-'''Optimus Prime''' and '''Sparky''' discuss the notion of humans vs Transformers.

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
* Both Wheeljack and Jazz were revealed to be among the Autobots brought to Earth back in issue 1. Likewise, Reflector was nearly brought back online before Optimus destroyed Teletraan One in the same issue... and it seems that Starscream and Soundwave were able to finish what Teletraan started, if the end of this issue is any indication.
* Though we got a ''very'' brief look at him in cassette form in issue 2, we finally get to see Rumble's full robot mode in action this issue, equipped with cartoon-style piledrivers.
* DWJ continues to place importance on Prime's trailer: it was left behind at the quarry when Optimus left to combat the Decepticons in issue 2, so Ratchet has to tow it to the hospital in this issue.
* After a couple teases in issues 1 and 2, Optimus uses the Matrix of Leadership for the first time this issue. Ratchet's berating of Optimus later on reiterates what we already know: that the Matrix is directly connected to Optimus' lifeforce, and that using it could risk him killing himself. It's currently unclear whether the Matrix being "empty" means it can never be used again, or if further use requires an amount of Optimus' energy that makes it too risky.
* Optimus mentions some sort of God-like entity referred to as the "Great Spark". It's ''possible'' he's talking about [[Primus]], with "Great Spark" essentially being a title, but it's unclear at this point if Primus as either a concept or an actual, physical entity exists in the Energon Universe continuity or not.
* The theme of families pops up again this issue, as Cliffjumper equates his now-deceased "clan" to humans' concept of "family".
* Megatron's current status is finally revealed: he's offline somewhere in an Arctic-esque region, partially trapped in ice and missing his fusion cannon arm... because the Autobots have it and have grafted it to Optimus, replacing the one he tore off last issue. This implies that Megatron and his arm were separated sometime before Megatron departed the Ark. While we don't know ''how'' he got there, it's worth noting that the preview pages for ''[[Cobra Commander (comic)|Cobra Commander]]'' seem to indicate it takes place in an area with lots of snow. ''Hmm...''
*It's not clear whether Skywarp is properly dead, or merely deactivated until his salvaged parts can be replaced. Either way, it's not made clear why they used him instead of one of the stasis-locked Decepticons aboard the Ark.

===Transformers references===
* Rumble's iconic piledrivers first debuted in the premiere episode of the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]], "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]".
* Soundwave insults Optimus with the line "'''Optimus: inferior.'''" He may not have said "Soundwave: superior," but we all know what [[The Transformers: The Movie|he's quoting]].
* Optimus previously wielded Megatron’s fusion cannon in [[G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 6|issue #6]] of the [[Devil's Due Press]] ''[[G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers]]'' series.
* Megatron being stuck offline and trapped in ice recalls the [[Megatron (Movie)|live-action movie version]], who was similarly frozen in ice before the events of the [[Transformers (film)|first live-action movie]].

===Real-world references===
* During Jazz's attack on the Decepticons, he shouts "Two! Five! One!", which is a reference to the {{w|ii–V–I progression|2-5-1 chord progression}}, appropriately common in jazz music.
* As the Decepticons retreat from battle, Cliffjumper is drawn giving them "{{w|The finger|the finger}}."

===Storytelling notes===

===Errors===
* On page 18, Ratchet's right hand unlocking the trailer is miscolored blue as Optimus' hand instead of red. If it was Optimus opening it, then it would have been a left hand since he's missing an arm.

===Other trivia===
* This issue contains the same four-page preview for ''[[Cobra Commander (comic)|Cobra Commander]]'' [[Cobra Commander issue 1|#1]] that was printed last issue.
* At the end of the letters section, Daniel Warren Johnson officially plugs the "director's commentary" livestreams he's been doing on his YouTube channel.
* The idea to have Optimus Prime lose his arm and be replaced with another Transformer's initially came from [[Robert Kirkman]], as revealed in the letters page for [[Transformers (2023) issue 25|issue #25]]. It appears that it was Johnson's idea to specifically have him take Megatron's.

===Covers (10)===
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* '''Cover A:''' Optimus, Cliffjumper, and Wheeljack stand ready for battle, by Daniel Warren Johnson & Mike Spicer.
* '''Cover B:''' Optimus leaps out of the frying pan and into the fire, by [[Jonboy Meyers]].
* '''Cover C (1:10 Copy Incentive):''' Connecting cover by [[Orlando Arocena]].
* '''Cover D (1:25 Copy Incentive):''' Soundwave fires on a group of airborne Autobots, by [[Sanford Greene]].
* '''Cover E (1:50 Copy Incentive):''' Megatron's damaged, deactivated body partially trapped in ice, by [[Andrea Milana]] & [[Annalisa Leoni]].
* '''Second Printing Cover A:''' Megatron by [[Jason Howard]].
* '''Second Printing Cover B:''' Jazz by Jason Howard.
* '''Third Printing Cover:''' Soundwave, Ravage, and Laserbeak fight Wheeljack by [[Gerald Parel]] & [[Frédéric Pham Chuong]].
* '''Fourth Printing Cover:''' by [[Riley Rossmo]] & [[Ivan Plascencia]].
* '''Jonboymeyers.com San Diego Comic-Con Second Printing Cover:''' by Jonboy Meyers.
* '''Jonboymeyers.com Third Printing Cover:''' by Jonboy Meyers.

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==External links==
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==References==
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[[Category:Transformers (2023) issues]]

Transformers (2023) issue 23

2025-10-23T15:03:35Z

Alientraveller: Undo revision 1871325 by DannyBoy (talk)

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|caption=''The scars are part of me, darkness and harmony'' 
''My voice without the lies, this is what it sounds like''
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|publisher=[[Image Comics]] [[Skybound Entertainment]]
|date=[[August 13]], [[2025]]
|coverdate=August 2025
|written by=[[Daniel Warren Johnson]]
|art by=[[Jorge Corona]]
|colors by=[[Mike Spicer]]
|letters by=[[Rus Wooton]]
|editor=[[Ben Abernathy]]
|publication design=[[Andres Juarez]]
|production=[[Ashby Florence]]
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'''As his comrades make their last stand against the Decepticons, Optimus unexpectedly reunites with an old friend in the heart of the Matrix.'''

==Synopsis==
In the middle of the [[Pacific Ocean]], [[Shredhead]] reconstitutes from the shattered remains of the ''[[Nemesis (G1)|Nemesis]]''' portal. After a brief moment to gather their bearings, Shredhead leaves to find [[Carly (G1)|Carly]].

Meanwhile, in the war-torn city of [[Chicago]], [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]], [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]], and [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] are fending off an assault from [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] as they try to get citizens from the city's north side to safety. Once that's been accomplished, Arcee advises that the [[Autobot]]s make some distance, knowing that the [[Decepticon]]s are after [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus]]' head. At the suggestion of [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]], Wheeljack has the Autobots relocate to the {{w|Adler Planetarium}}. [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] bears witness to all this from afar, and berates Starscream for ruining an ambush that's been in the works for a week when he returns to his leader's side. [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] confirms that the [[United States military]] forces defending the city have been successfully obliterated, and asks if they should continue slaughtering humans to break the Autobots' morale, but Megatron declines — the time has come for the Decepticons to move in, and for Optimus to learn his most important lesson...

Within the [[Matrix of Leadership]], Optimus wanders through the [[Hall of the Primes]] in search of wisdom. However, all he finds is an infestation of purple tendrils that latch onto him, causing his visions to re-emerge. He's quickly re-awoken by the unexpected appearance of [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparky]], who tells Optimus to transform and follow his lead.

[[File:TF2023 no. 23 - Autobots Vs Decepticons.jpg|left|thumb|250px|''So we were cowards, so we were liars'' ''So we're not heroes, we're still survivors'' ''The dreamers, the fighters, no lying, I'm tired'' ''But dive in the fire, and I'll be right here by your side!'']]
The Autobots' respite within the Adler Planetarium is interrupted by the beginning of the Decepticons' assault. With the end nigh, Wheeljack tells the still-comatose Optimus that he tried making him a new arm, but even if he somehow woke up, he's not sure it'd even work. Doctor [[Lio]] interrupts to allow the many refugees that've gathered in the Planetarium to pay their respects to their hero, and as people from the likes of [[Seattle]] and [[Tacoma]] say their pieces, Carly suddenly arrives with [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]. Magnus remarks that he'd wanted to be the kind of leader Optimus was ever since he first came to know of him, but despite being outwardly strong, he lacks the bravery and leadership skills needed. Nevertheless, he's prepared to die for Optimus' dream of a better world, and Magnus' words rally the other Autobots. And so, as [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]] keeps watch from the back lines, the Autobots and Decepticons charge into battle.

In the Hall of the Primes, Optimus asks Sparky how long he'd been in there, but all he can recall is waking up and seeing Optimus being attacked right after. The tendrils latch onto Optimus again, triggering a memory of [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]]'s body lying dead aboard the ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]''. Sparky remarks that the two's memories seem to be mixed-up as he makes a hard turn to de-entangle Optimus, replacing Optimus' memory with one of Sparky playing catch with a younger [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike]]. Though Optimus is keen on seeing what the [[Thirteen|Primes]] have to show him, Sparky observes that whatever's infesting the Matrix has already claimed everything... except, that is, for a monument to Sparky himself, for reasons even the man himself can't explain.

With the Autobots' front line broken, Starscream disobeys Megatron and swoops in to eliminate Optimus, Spike, and Carly. Beachcomber flings himself in the way of Starscream's blasts, but despite reassuring Carly that he's fine, another shot from Starscream takes him down, seemingly for good...

Arriving at Sparky's monument, Optimus and Sparky open the doors to find Spike's body partway through a blue portal shaped like the Matrix's core. Optimus informs Sparky of his son's attempted sacrifice, a gesture that touches the old veteran. Sparky puts Spike's hand to his face, and as Optimus recalls the [[Jetfire (G1)|deceased]] [[Ratchet (G1)|friends]] he's failed, Sparky muses on the nature of the Matrix's infection: whatever it is, it wants Optimus to surrender to nihilism and block the world around him, just as Sparky did, but it was thanks to Optimus' belief in a better world that Sparky was able to move past it all. To save both Optimus and his son, Sparky gently pushes Spike back through the portal, causing a wave of energy that dissipates the purple tendrils. As the world fades around them, Sparky makes Optimus promise to be there for his son, and Optimus says he'll do it with his entire being.

In the waking world, Starscream prepares to eliminate Carly and the still-comatose Optimus and Spike, only for Megatron to catch up with him and start beating him senseless, intending to do more to Optimus than give him a quick, violent end. Upon noticing the crowd of refugees, Megatron decides to dispose of them... only for Optimus to wake up and warn Megatron that they're under ''his'' protection. The Decepticons are prepared to engage, but Megatron orders them to stand down as he removes his [[fusion cannon]] — this battle is between him and Optimus. Megatron tosses his weapon aside, Optimus puts Carly and Spike on a nearby pile of rubble, and the two rivals' ultimate showdown begins...

==Featured characters==
Characters in ''italic text'' appear only in flashbacks. 
{{Featuredcharacters
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* [[Shredhead]] (1)
* [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] (2)
* [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] (3)
* [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] (4)
* [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]] (7)
* [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] (8)
* [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] (13)
* [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]] (14)
* [[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] (15)
* [[Fireflight (G1)|Fireflight]] (16)
* [[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]] (17)
* [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] (21)
* [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] (25)
* ''[[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]]'' (28)
* ''[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]'' (31)
* ''[[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]'' (32)

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* [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] (6)
* [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] (9)
* [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] (10)
* [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] (22)
* [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] (23)
* [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] (24)
* [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] (26)
* [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] (27)

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* [[Chicago]] Residents (5)
* [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] (11)
* [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparky]] (12)
* [[Washington (state)|Washington]] Refugees (18)
* [[Doctor Lio]] (19)
* [[Carly (G1)|Carly]] (20)

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* [[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]] (29)
* [[Vector Prime]] (30)
}}

==Quotes==
"''Um''... Optimus Prime, sir? My sister was in Seattle. She was going to be crushed by a skyscraper. Until you stopped it. With your own body." 
"We were in Tacoma." 
"I thought we were going to die." 
"But you saved me." 
"You rescued us." 
"You rescued me."
:— Refugees from all over [[Washington (state)|Washington]], including '''Carly''', pay their respects to a comatose Optimus Prime.

"Ever since I knew of Optimus... I wanted to be just like him. But that was always impossible. I am strong on the outside. But on the inside... I don't know how to be strong. I don't know how to be a leader. I don't know how to be brave. But I know how to die. I can die for his dream of a better world for all of us. Including those who are small. '''We can all die!!!''' Protecting the one who has been strong for us, '''for so many years!!!''' For Optimus Prime."
:—'''Ultra Magnus''' rallies the Autobots as he reflects on his nature as a soldier.

"This infection... it wants to take you away from yourself. It wants you to give up. To put walls up. Just like I did. But I'm not that way anymore. Thanks to you, Optimus."
:—'''Sparky''' finds the Matrix's infection all too familiar.

"'''MEGATRON!!!''' These people. This planet. They are under '''my''' protection." 
"Megatron, stand clear! We shall ruin him--" 
"No. This is between me... and him." 
"One shall stand. '''ONE SHALL FALL!'''"
:—'''Megatron''' denies '''Starscream''''s aid as he and '''Optimus Prime''' prepare to duel.

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
* As was noted [[Transformers (2023) issue 22|last issue]] by [[Elita One (G1)|Elita One]], the Earth side of the ''Nemesis''' portal was blown to smithereens during the Autobots' and Decepticons' battle and scattered across the ocean floor, causing Shredhead's body to initially manifest in pieces before painfully recombining.
* When we see Arcee in the first few pages, her entire right arm, from the ''shoulder'' to her ''hand'', seems to have been reduced to its skeletal components, possibly from the earlier stages of the battle in Chicago in this issue, when they are helping civilians escape from the Decepticon onslaught.
* Megatron observes that the Decepticons have been quietly following the Autobots for a week, giving us a rough idea of how long the time gap between the end of last issue and the start of this one is. The time gap can also be observed through the Autobots, who were all largely intact last issue, but are now in varying states of disrepair after fending off Decepticon attacks for so long.
* Thanks to being an astral projection within the Matrix, Optimus is finally able to manifest his [[energon-axe|axe]] for the first time since [[Transformers (2023) issue 3|issue #3]], where his physical self's right arm was wrecked ''just'' as the axe made its debut.
* Sparky (or rather, his spirit) makes his first physical appearance since his sacrifice in [[Transformers (2023) issue 6|issue #6]]. He also confirms the obvious: that Optimus' visions, which have been appearing on-and-off since [[Transformers (2023) issue 7|issue #7]], are distorted due in part to Sparky's memories being mixed with Optimus'.
** Sparky has also been given a statue within the Hall of Primes. Likely confirming he has been added to the lineage of the Primes after being absorbed into the Matrix.
* The refugees recall the Decepticons' attacks on Tacoma and Seattle, which began in issues [[Transformers (2023) issue 15|#15]] and [[Transformers (2023) issue 17|#17]], respectively. The Tacoma survivors' words of remembrance are particularly notable, as they considered the Autobots unwelcome visitors when they arrived to help them.
* Rumble had his right arm destroyed by [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] in [[Transformers (2023) issue 5|issue #5]], but this issue confirms that he had it repaired off-panel (probably shortly after the conclusion of [[Transformers (2023) issue 20|issue #20]], given that Megatron's eyes were similarly repaired between issues).
* The remaining Aerialbots re-combine into [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] to battle the Decepticons, but owing to poor [[Slingshot (G1)|Slingshot]]'s death in [[Transformers (2023) issue 21|issue #21]], he has a stub where his left arm used to be.
* Bumblebee's deactivated body was shot to death by Starscream in [[Transformers (2023) issue 1|issue #1]].
* When we first saw him in a flashback from [[Transformers (2023) issue 2|issue #2]], Beachcomber was being shot in the back by Starscream, leading us to (incorrectly) assume that he'd died before the Autobots arrived on Earth. Now, 21 issues later, it's happened again...
* Jetfire went offline the same issue and was only able to be brought back by being [[Transformation paralysis|locked]] into his [[alternate mode]] in [[Transformers (2023) issue 8|issue #8]], but he hasn't been seen since he was retrieved by Silverbolt in issue #20, and considering that he was aboard the ''Ark'' when it was teleported away by [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] and [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] in issue #21, his current fate remains up in the air. Ratchet died taking a shot meant for [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] in [[Transformers (2023) issue 10|issue #10]].
* Sparky and Optimus quote what the former said in [[Transformers (2023) issue 4|issue #4]]: "My boy. My beautiful boy."

===Transformers references===
* Within the Hall of the Primes, Optimus (at least his head) is colored like he was in the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel comic]]. His eyes are yellow and his face is blue (behind his faceplate). Once he wakes up from his coma, he’s back to normal.
* Ultra Magnus' speech begins with him remarking on how he's not cut out for leadership, just as he did when Optimus passed the Matrix onto him in ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''.
* Of the three statues of the Primes seen in this issue, the only two that can be readily identified are those of [[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]] (who we saw last issue) and [[Vector Prime]], who like the previously-seen Primes, is visually based on his ''[[Transformers: The Covenant of Primus|Covenant of Primus]]'' design.
* The sword Ultra Magnus wields in this issue bears a striking resemblance to the [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|Star Saber]] from ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)| Prime]]''.
* Optimus punctuates the beginning of his and Megatron's duel by saying, what else, [[The Transformers: The Movie|"One shall stand. One shall fall."]]
* [[Daniel Warren Johnson]]'s sign-off on the letters pages paraphrases the lyrics of "[[Nothin's Gonna Stand in Our Way]]", one of the licensed songs featured in the '86 movie.

===Errors===
* As aforementioned, when we first see Arcee, her entire right arm is reduced to a skeletal frame. In the Adler Planetarium however, her arm is damaged from the ''bicep'' to the hand, rather than from the ''shoulder''. But once Ultra Magnus and Carly arrive to the Adler Planetarium, her shoulder is once again reduced to its skeletal form.

===Other notes===
* In his response to one of the letters, [[Daniel Warren Johnson]] says he's sure time will tell if other combiners like the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]]s and [[Seacon (G1)|Seacon]]s will show up and opts to cheekily remark "Hmmmmm NO COMMENT." when asked if Bumblebee will wind up being resurrected as Goldbug down the line.
* Energon Experience: Presented by editor [[Ben Abernathy]].
** Character Spotlight: Wheeljack!
** Flashback Fun: A reminder that Wheeljack's as much a gadget man as he is a scientist, with specific mention of him getting the dam to generate [[energon]] in issue #5 and his intergalactic radio from the [[Transformers Energon Universe 2025 Special story|''Transformers'' story]] from 2025's ''[[Energon Universe 2025 Special|Energon Universe Special]]''.
** Creator Spotlight: Ben asks colorist [[Mike Spicer]] which Autobot he'd want with him on a stranded island and why. Mike says [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]], because it means he'd at least have tunes!

===Covers (11)===
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* '''Cover A:''' Ultra Magnus holds firm with a flag bearing the Autobot [[insignia]], by Daniel Warren Johnson and Mike Spicer.
* '''Cover B:''' Optimus and the Autobots in silhouette, by Jorge Corona and Mike Spicer.
* '''Cover C:''' Connecting cover by [[David Nakayama]].
* '''Cover D:''' Optimus Prime with his right arm torn off, by [[Doug Mahnke]] and [[David Baron]].
* '''Cover E:''' Soundwave, by [[Simon Parr]].
* '''The 616 Comics Cover A:''' Jazz, by [[Björn Barends]].
* '''The 616 Comics Cover B:''' Foil variant of Björn Barends' cover.
* '''PCB Hobby Cover A:''' Soundwave, [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], and [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], by [[Sajad Shah]].
* '''PCB Hobby Cover B:''' Logoless variant of Sajad Shah's cover.
* '''ThatGuyWill Cover A:''' A watercolor painting of Optimus, by [[Ito]].
* '''ThatGuyWill Cover B:''' An oil painting of Optimus blocking an attack, by Ito.

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