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George Dunsay

2026-02-27T18:36:20Z

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'''George Dunsay''' was a long-time top executive at Hasbro and their liaison with Takara until 1988. In his own words, he would be Hasbro's "face in Japan" for many years.

He was Vice President of [[Hasbro]] R&D in [[1983]], when he and CEO [[Stephen D. Hassenfeld]] were convinced by [[Henry Orenstein]] to acquire a license for releasing [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s ''[[Diaclone]]'' and ''[[Micro Change]]'' toys on the North American market. (This came after a Hasbro representative had discovered the toys at [[Tokyo Toy Show]], which Dunsay had originally been meant to go to.) Orenstein facilitated a meeting between Dunsay and Takara, resulting in him becoming the 'face'. Later, he served as a consultant to Hasbro Europe when they were continuing the ''Transformers'' brand on their own, and subsequently served as a consultant for the brand following its reintroduction to the US market from [[1992]] through [[2001]].

In addition, Dunsay also created ''[[My Little Pony]]'', ''My Buddy'', and ''Fresh 'n Fancy''. He claims responsibility for coming up with the concept of the [[rubsign]] stickers, for which he shares the patent with Orenstein.<ref>[http://patents.justia.com/inventor/henry-orenstein Justia Patents: Henry Orenstein]
"Heat energizable identification label for toys. Patent number: D297337"</ref> As a Hasbro executive, he was one of three men pushing boss Hassenfield to bring back ''[[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]''<ref>[http://www.nytimes.com/1985/08/04/business/trying-to-run-a-bigger-hasbro.html?pagewanted=all New York Times, August 4th 1985: "Trying To Run A Bigger Hasbro"]</ref>; ironically, he'd later use that (plus Ponies and Transformers) as an example in a TF Archive interview of Hasbro's problems making up new franchises since 1990!<ref>[https://www.tfarchive.com/fandom/interviews/george_dunsay/george_dunsay_interview.php Interview on TF Archive]</ref>

During his time as a consultant, he also consulted other companies such as [[Mattel]], [[TakaraTomy|Takara, Tomy]] and Toybox, often serving as a bridge between Japanese and American companies.

Dunsay was originally scheduled to attend [[BotCon 2004]] as a guest, but had to cancel the trip later. He would provide an interview for the BotCon 2004 program guide as a substitute.

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
[http://www.tfarchive.com/fandom/interviews/george_dunsay/george_dunsay_interview.php Interview with George Dunsay at TF Archive]

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[[George Dunsay]], former [[Hasbro]] staff, talking about his contribution to the creation of ''[[My Little Pony]]''.

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George Dunsay

2026-02-27T18:27:10Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

{{disambig3|George}}
[[File:George Dunsay.png|300px]]
'''George Dunsay''' was a long-time top executive at Hasbro and their liaison with Takara until 1988. In his own words, he would be Hasbro's "face in Japan" for many years.

He was Vice President of [[Hasbro]] R&D in [[1983]], when he and CEO [[Stephen D. Hassenfeld]] were convinced by [[Henry Orenstein]] to acquire a license for releasing [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s ''[[Diaclone]]'' and ''[[Micro Change]]'' toys on the North American market. (This came after a Hasbro representative had discovered the toys at [[Tokyo Toy Show]], which Dunsay had originally been meant to go to.) Orenstein facilitated a meeting between Dunsay and Takara, resulting in him becoming the 'face'. Later, he served as a consultant to Hasbro Europe when they were continuing the ''Transformers'' brand on their own, and subsequently served as a consultant for the brand following its reintroduction to the US market from [[1992]] through [[2001]].

In addition, Dunsay also created ''[[My Little Pony]]'', ''My Buddy'', and ''Fresh 'n Fancy''. He claims responsibility for coming up with the concept of the [[rubsign]] stickers, for which he shares the patent with Orenstein.<ref>[http://patents.justia.com/inventor/henry-orenstein Justia Patents: Henry Orenstein]
"Heat energizable identification label for toys. Patent number: D297337"</ref> As a Hasbro executive, he was one of three men pushing boss Hassenfield to bring back ''[[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]''<ref>[http://www.nytimes.com/1985/08/04/business/trying-to-run-a-bigger-hasbro.html?pagewanted=all New York Times, August 4th 1985: "Trying To Run A Bigger Hasbro"]</ref>; ironically, he'd later use that (plus Ponies and Transformers) as an example in a TF Archive interview of Hasbro's problems making up new franchises since 1990!<ref>[https://www.tfarchive.com/fandom/interviews/george_dunsay/george_dunsay_interview.php Interview on TF Archive]</ref>

During his time as a consultant, he also consulted other companies such as [[Mattel]], [[TakaraTomy|Takara, Tomy]] and Toybox, often serving as a bridge between Japanese and American companies.

Dunsay was originally scheduled to attend [[BotCon 2004]] as a guest, but had to cancel the trip later. He would provide an interview for the BotCon 2004 program guide as a substitute.

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
[http://www.tfarchive.com/fandom/interviews/george_dunsay/george_dunsay_interview.php Interview with George Dunsay at TF Archive]

{{DEFAULTSORT:Dunsay, George}}
[[Category:Executives]]
[[Category:Hasbro designers]]

March 23

2023-03-21T15:31:42Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

<noinclude>{{cal-date|3|23}}</noinclude>
* '''[[1934]] —''' [[Ted Schwartz]] (intial voice of [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime]] and voice of [[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]]) is born.
* '''[[1946]] —''' Voice actor [[Gabriel Chávez]] is born.
* '''[[1954]] —''' [[Hideyuki Hori]] (voice of [[Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Generation 1]] [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] in ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)|The Headmasters]]'') is born.
* '''[[1956]] —''' German Voice actor [[Gerald Paradies]] is born.
* '''[[1959]] —''' Japanese voice actress [[Kazue Ikura]] is born.
* '''[[1964]] —''' Actor [[Peter Lorre]] dies at age 59.
* '''[[1967]] —''' [[Santos Alberto]] (Mexican voice of [[Canopy]] and [[Shockwave (Cyberverse)|Shockwave]]) is born.
* '''[[1968]] —''' Writer [[Zak Penn]] is born.
* '''[[2001]] —''' ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|The Transformers]] DVD BOX 2'' is released in Japan by [[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]].
* '''[[2002]] —''' The series finale of [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)|''Robots in Disguise'' (2001)]], "[[The Final Battle (RID)|The Final Battle]]", premieres in the US.
* '''[[2004]] —''' ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]—The Complete Second Season'' is released on DVD in the US by [[Rhino Entertainment]].
* '''[[2007]] —''' The [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] members-only site releases online bios for the [[Mini-Con]]s [[Barnstorm]], [[Buildup]], [[Dead End Drone]]/[[Dead End General]], [[Drop-Test]], [[Flashbang]], and the [[Matrix Cannon]].
* '''[[2011]] —''' ''[[The Transformers: Heart of Darkness|Heart of Darkness]]'' [[Heart of Darkness issue 1|#1]] and reprintings of ''[[The Transformers: The IDW Collection Volume One]]'' and ''[[The Transformers: The IDW Collection Volume Two|Two]]'' are released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''[[2013]] —''' [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' [[Soundwave (WFC)#GenerationsVoyager|TG13 Soundwave]] with [[Laserbeak (WFC)#Generations|Laserbeak]], [[Soundwave (WFC)#GenerationsSoundblaster|TG14 Soundblaster]] with [[Buzzsaw (FOC)#Generations|Buzzsaw]], and ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' MP-16 [[Frenzy (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Frenzy]] & [[Buzzsaw (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Buzzsaw]].
* '''[[2014]]''' — TakaraTomy releases ''Masterpiece'' [[Soundwave (G1)/toys#MP13B|MP-13B Soundblaster]] with [[Ratbat (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Ratbat]] and ''Generations'' [[Mini-Con Assault Team|TG-32 Mini-Con Assault Team]] and [[Starscream (Armada)#Generations|TG-33 Armada Starscream]].
* '''[[2018]]?''' — A [[mall (BotBots)|mall]] is struck by energon lightning, turning hundreds of everyday objects into mischievous little robots. {{storylink|Commercial#Official_Digital_Commercial|BotBots Official Digital Commercial}}
* '''[[2019]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots Academy (cartoon)|Rescue Bots Academy]]'' episodes "[[Screen Time]]" and "[[Fright at the Museum]]" premiere on [[Discovery Family]].
* '''2019 —''' [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[Studio Series]]'' [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#SS27|SS-23 Rusty Bumblebee]], [[Bonecrusher (Movie)#Generations|SS-24 Bonecrusher]], [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#SS32|SS-25 Optimus Prime]], [[Jetfire (Movie)#Generations|SS-26 Jetfire]], [[Megatron (Movie)/toys#SSLeader|SS-27 Megatron]] and [[Dropkick (Movie)#Generations|SS-28 Dropkick]].
* '''[[2022]] —''' ''[[Transformers (2019 comic)|Transformers]]'' [[The Landscape of Fear|#41]], ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars|Beast Wars]]'' [[Primal Rage|#14]] and ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars|The Transformers: Beast Wars Volume 1]]'' are released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''[[2023]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|Transformers: EarthSpark]]'' episode "[[Home, Part 2]]" premieres on [[Nickelodeon]] in the UK.

March 22

2023-03-21T15:31:21Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

<noinclude>{{cal-date|3|22}}</noinclude>
* '''[[1927]] —''' Director [[Charlie Downs]] is born.
* '''[[1933]] —''' Brazilian voice actor [[Carlos Marques]] is born.
* '''[[1947]] —''' [[Tony Pope]] (voice of the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|original ''The Transformers'' cartoon]] [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]] and others) is born.
* '''[[1950]] —''' Voice actress [[Makoto Kōsaka]] is born.
* '''[[1959]] —''' Comic writer and artist [[Lew Stringer]] is born.
* '''[[1961]] —''' Longtime ''Transformers'' scribe [[Simon Furman]] is born. His parents wouldn't believe the things he could do now.
* '''[[1962]] —''' [[Francesco Quinn]] (voice of [[Dino|Dino/Mirage]] in ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]'') is born in [[Italy]].
* '''[[1969]] —''' Novelist [[Alex Irvine]] is born.
* '''[[1991]] —''' Actress [[Dominique Fishback]] ([[Elena]] in [[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts (film)|Transformers: Rise of the Beasts]]) is born.
* '''[[2000]] —''' The [[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|''Beast Machines'']] episode "[[Sparkwar Pt. I: The Strike]]" premieres.
* '''2000 —''' The ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars Metals]]'' episode "[[Nemesis Part 2|Happy? This Should do it]]" airs in Japan.
* '''[[2002]]''' —''[[Transformers: Primal Scream]]'' TPB is released by [[Titan Books]].
* '''[[2006]] —''' ''[[The Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' #1 is released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''[[2008]] —''' The ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]]'' episode "[[Nature Calls]]" premieres in the US.
* '''[[2010]] —''' [[Fun Publications]] reveals the first toy in the [[BotCon 2010]] [[exclusive]] box set: [[Pyro (G1)|Autobot Spark]].
* '''[[2012]] —''' "[[Megatron's Revenge]]" is uploaded to the Transformers YouTube page.
* '''[[2013]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' episode "[[Darkmount, NV]]" premieres in the United States.
* '''[[2014]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[Spellbound]]" premieres on [[Hub Network]].
* '''[[2015]] —''' [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] publicly meets with the [[Secretary General of the United Nations]] to ratify the Cybercord Treaty between [[Earth]] and [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. [[Alpha Quintesson]]'s [[Terrorcon (Energon)|Terrorcon]]s attack Toronto, Moscow, Tokyo and Los Angeles. {{storylink|Multiplicity}}
* '''2015''' — The ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]'' episode "[[Adventures in Bumblebee-Sitting!]]" premieres on Cartoon Network in Australia.
*'''[[2017]]''' — ''[[Transformers vs. G.I. Joe: The Movie Adaptation]]'' and ''[[Optimus Prime (comic)|Optimus Prime]]'' [[New Cybertron Part 5: Future Glories Lost|#5]] are released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''2017 —''' ''[[Transformers: The Definitive G1 Collection|Transformers: The Definitive G1 Collection: Volume 8: Wanted: Galvatron — Dead or Alive]]'' is released by [[Hachette|Hachette Partworks]].
* '''[[2019]] —''' The ''[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]'' movie is released in [[Japan]].
* '''[[2022]] —''' On this Transformers Tuesday, Hasbro reveals the [[Vintage]] [[Beast Wars (toyline)|Beast Wars]] Maximal [[Cybershark#Vintage Beast Wars|Cybershark]] and [[Wolfang (Maximal)#Vintage Beast Wars|Wolfang]].
* '''[[2023]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|Transformers: EarthSpark]]'' episode "[[Home, Part 1]]" premieres on [[Nickelodeon]] in the UK.
[[Category:Fictional events by day]]

March 21

2023-03-21T15:30:16Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

<noinclude>{{cal-date|3|21}}</noinclude>
* '''[[1926]] —''' [[Henry Djanik]] (European French voice of [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]], [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]], [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] in the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|original cartoon]]) is born.
* '''[[1931]] —''' Comic artist [[Al Williamson]] is born.
* '''[[1953]] —''' [[Run Sasaki]] (Japanese voice of [[Astoria Carlton-Ritz]], [[Moonracer (G1)|Moonracer]] and other minor characters in the original cartoon) is born.
* '''[[1951]] —''' [[Carlos Roberto]] (Brazilian voice of [[Alexi Voskhod]]) is born.
* '''[[1962]] —''' [[Taco Bell]] is founded.
* '''[[1965]] —''' [[Miyako Endō]] (voice of [[Jan Minakaze]] from ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (cartoon)|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory]]'') is born.
* '''1965 —''' [[Ja-hyeong Gu]] (Korean voice of ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Prime]]'' [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]], [[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]] and [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]]) is born.
* '''[[1968]] —''' [[Jonny Rees]] (Second voice of [[Doctor Morocco|Thaddeus Morocco]] in ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'') is about to make a fur coat out of you.
* '''[[1986]] —''' The ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]]'' episode "[[The Girl Who Loved Powerglide|From Your Daughter With Love]]" premieres in Japan.
* '''[[1986]] —''' The ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]]'' episode "[[The Golden Lagoon (episode)|The Golden Lagoon]]" premieres in Japan, but only in the Kansai region.
* '''[[1998]] —''' ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers]] — Floating Island Deathmatch'' and ''The Destrons Make Drama'' are released on VHS in Japan by [[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]].
* '''1998 —''' The ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars: Transformers]] Maximal Edition Laserdisc'' set is released in Japan by [[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]].
* '''[[2003]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|Transformers: Super-God Masterforce]] DVD BOX 01'' is released in Japan by [[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]].
* '''2003 —''' The ''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)|Legends of the Microns]]—[[The Transformers Legends of the Microns: Sound of Evolution Vol. 1]]'' soundtrack album is released in Japan by [[Columbia Music Entertainment]].
* '''2003 —''' The ''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)|Legends of the Microns]]'' episode "[[Ruin|記憶 (みやこ) - ruin]]" premieres in Japan.
* '''[[2007]] —''' "[[Spotlight: Soundwave]]" and ''[[Transformers: Movie Prequel|Movie Prequel]]'' [[Movie Prequel issue 2|#2]] are released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''[[2009]] —''' The ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Animated]]'' episode "[[Three's a Crowd]]" premieres in the US. "[[TransWarped]]" [[TransWarped#Part 3|Part 3]] premieres in Canada.
* '''[[2011]] —''' Registration for [[BotCon 2011]] goes live. Over 50% of the box set run is purchased within ''four hours''.
* '''[[2012]] —''' ''[[The Transformers Classics UK Volume 2]]'', and the second printings of ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' [[Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|#2]] and ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[The World & Everything in It|#2]] are released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''2012 —''' The final day to register for the Fan Club and get the 2012 promo toy [[Runamuck (G1)#Timelines|Runamuck]].
* '''2012 —''' The final day to vote for the fans' choice character inductee of the [[Transformers Hall of Fame/2012|2012 Transformers Hall of Fame ceremony]].
* '''[[2015]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]'' episode "[[Can You Dig It?]]" premieres on Cartoon Network in Australia.
* '''2015 —''' The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[Time After Time]]" premieres on [[Discovery Family]].
* '''2015 —''' [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Transformers: Robots in Disguise]] makes its [[Canada|Canadian]] television broadcast premiere on [[Teletoon]].
* '''2015 —''' [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Exhaust#Masterpiece|MP-23 Exhaust]] and [[Star Saber (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|MP-24 Star Saber]], ''[[Transformers Cloud|Cloud]]'' [[Roadbuster (G1)#Cloud 2|TFC-A04 Roadbuster]] and [[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Cloud|TFC-D04 Hellwarp]], and ''[[Q-Transformers]]'' [[Hound (G1)#Q-Transformers|QT-15 Hound]] and [[Bluestreak (G1)#Q-Transformers|QT-16 Bluestreak]].
* '''2015 —''' The [[Transformers Cloud Compilation Comic]] is released.
* '''[[2018]] —''' ''[[The Transformers: The IDW Collection Phase Two: Volume 7|The IDW Collection Phase Two: Volume 7]]'' Hardcover is released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''2018 —''' ''[[Transformers: The Definitive G1 Collection|Transformers: The Definitive G1 Collection: Volume 2: New Order]]'' is released by [[Hachette|Hachette Partworks]].
* '''[[2020]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots Academy (cartoon)|Rescue Bots Academy]]'' episodes "[[Back to School]]" and "[[Mission Dinobot]]" premiere on [[Discovery Family]].
* '''[[2023]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|Transformers: EarthSpark]]'' episode "[[Warzone]]" premieres on [[Nickelodeon]] in the UK.

March 20

2023-03-21T15:29:40Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

<noinclude>{{cal-date|3|20}}</noinclude>
* '''???? —''' Voice actress [[Kairi Satake]] is born.
* '''19?? —''' [[Marvel Comics]] letterer [[Diana Albers]] is born.
* '''[[1960]] —''' [[Pascal Massix]] (first European French voice of [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] and [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] in the ''[[live-action film series]]'') is born.
* '''[[1961]] —''' [[Louis Chirillo]] (voice of ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]'' [[Ransack (Cybertron)|Ransack]]) is born.
* '''[[1970]] —''' [[Ward Perry]] (voice of [[Scavenger (Armada)|Scavenger]] and [[Landmine (Energon)|Landmine]]) is born.
* '''1970 —''' [[Andrew Kishino]] (voice of [[Transformers The Game]] [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]], [[Bobby Bolivia]] and also [[Breakaway (ROTF)|Breakaway]]) is born.
* '''[[1972]] —''' [[Jonathan Lipow]] (voice of [[Unicron]] in the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron Trilogy (cartoon)|Transformers: War for Cybertron Trilogy]]) is born.
* '''[[1985]] —''' Chinese voice actor [[Fan Zhechen]] is born.
* '''[[1987]] —''' The ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers 2010]]'' episode "[[Webworld|Planet of the Spider Nests]]" premiers in Japan.
* '''[[2003]] —''' Japanese [[Toys"R"Us]] stores offer the [[Land Military Mini-Con Team#Ultimate|Land Military Micron Ultimate Edition]] toys ([[Bonecrusher (Armada)#Ultimate|Bomb]], [[Knock Out (Armada)#Ultimate|Crack]], and [[Wreckage (Armada)#Ultimate|Shot]]), one free with the purchase of ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Legend of the Microns]]'' [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys#Armada|MC-01 Convoy Super Mode]].
* '''[[2007]] —''' The [[Kiss Players episode 50|50th show]] in the [[Transformers: Kiss Players (radio drama)|''Kiss Players'' radio drama series]] airs in Japan on the "Transformers Kiss Play: Transformers News Center" program.
* '''[[2010]] —''' [[The Transformers (franchise)|Generation 1]]-colored [[Legends Class (2005)|EZ Collection]] [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] is released in Japan.
* '''2010 —''' ''[[Transformers Disney Label|Disney Label]]'' [[Donald Duck#Monochrome|Donald Duck Monochrome]] is released in Japan.
* '''[[2012]] —''' The [[Transformers Prime: Music from the Animated Series|Transformers: Prime: Music from the Animated Series: Season One]] albulm is released by [[Lakeshore Records]].
* '''[[2013]] —''' ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' [[Under Cold Blue Stars|#15]] and the ''[[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron (comic)|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron]]'' one-shot are released by [[IDW Publishing]]
* '''2013 —''' [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[Kre-O]] Transformers'' in Japan, starting with six sets: [[Bumblebee (Kre-O)#74pc|Bumblebee]], [[Optimus Prime (Kre-O)#90pc|Optimus Prime]], [[Rotor Rage]], [[Stealth Bumblebee]], [[Street Showdown]] and [[Battle for Energon]].
*'''[[2014]] —''' [[Transformers Cloud|Transformers Cloud: Spacetime World: Guardians of Time]] [[Encounter|Chapter 2: Part 4]] is first published.
* '''[[2018]] —''' [[Hans-Jürgen Wolf]] (German voice of [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] in the ''[[live-action film series]]'' and [[Megatron (WFC)|another Megatron]] in ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'') passes away, aged 68.
* '''[[2019]] —''' ''[[Transformers: The Definitive G1 Collection]] Volume 05: The Smelting Pool'' is released by [[Hachette|Hachette Paperworks]].
* '''2019 —''' [[Bumblebee's First Life on Earth]] [[Picked Up from the Junkyard|#1]] is released.
* '''[[2023]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|Transformers: EarthSpark]]'' episode "[[Bear Necessities]]" premieres on [[Nickelodeon]] in the UK.

March 16

2023-03-21T15:27:43Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

<noinclude>{{cal-date|3|16}}</noinclude>

*'''19?? —''' [[Kenichi Mochizuki]] (voice of [[Brakedown (Cybertron)|Autolander]], [[Crosswise (Cybertron)|Autovolt]], [[Quickmix (Cybertron)|Blendar]] and others) is born.
*'''[[1952]] —''' [[Alvin Sanders]] ([[Demolishor (Armada)|Demolishor]] in the [[Unicron Trilogy continuity family|Unicron Trilogy]]) is born.
*'''[[1971]] —''' [[Alan Tudyk]] ([[Dutch (DOTM)|Dutch]] in ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]'' and [[Optimus Prime (ES)|Optimus Prime]] in ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|EarthSpark]]'') is born with a sudden inevitable betrayal.
*'''[[1976]] —''' [[Kenji Nojima]] (Japanese voice of [[Wasp]]) is born.
*'''1976 —''' Actress [[Géraldine Frippiat]] (French voice of [[Dani Burns]]) is born.
*'''[[2002]] —''' The [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)|2001 ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon]] episode "[[Galvatron's Revenge]]" premieres in the US.
*'''[[2005]] —''' ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|Super Link]]—Volume 011'' is released on DVD in Japan by [[Interchannel]].
*'''[[2007]] —''' The [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] members-only site releases online bios for the [[Mini-Con]]s [[Aftershock (Armada)|Aftershock]], [[Breakage]], [[Heavy Metal (Energon)|Heavy Metal]], [[Jumpstart]], [[Kickflip]], and [[Mudbath]].
*'''[[2009]] —''' Final day to register for the [[Fun Publications]] Fan Club and receive the [[Heatwave (Timelines)|Heatwave]] subscription bonus toy.
*'''[[2010]] —''' Final day to register for the Fan Club and get the 2010 promo toys [[Dion (G1)#Timelines|Dion]] and [[Cop-Tur (G1)|Cop-Tur]].
*'''[[2011]] —''' ''[[Transformers: Foundation]]'' [[Foundation issue 2|#2]] is released by [[IDW Publishing]].
*'''2011 —''' Final day to register for the Fan Club and get the 2011 promo toy [[Side Burn (RID)#Toys|Side Burn]].
*'''[[2012]] —''' The ''original'' final day to register for the Fan Club and get the 2012 promo toy [[Runamuck (G1)#Timelines|Runamuck]]; it was later moved to [[March 21]].
* '''[[2015]] —''' "[[Head Games]]" is released by [[Fun Publications]].
*'''[[2016]] —''' [[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|''The Transformers vol.2'']] Volume 8 TPB and [[All Hail Optimus Part 2: Edge of the Earth|issue #51]] and the ''[[Transformers: Deviations]]'' one shot are released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''[[2019]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots Academy (cartoon)|Rescue Bots Academy]]'' episodes "[[The Secret of Flight]]" and "[[Battle of the Bots]]" premiere on [[Discovery Family]].
* '''2019 —''' [[Larry DiTillio]] (writer and story editor on ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'') passes away.
* '''[[2023]] —''' Hasbro and [[Walmart]] reveal the first three toys in the ''[[Toxitron Collection]]'', a [[Walmart]] [[exclusive]] capsule for ''[[Transformers: Legacy|Legacy: Evolution]]'': [[Toxitron (Universe)#Legacy|G2 Universe Toxitron]], [[Cloudcover#Legacy|G2 Universe Cloudcover]], and [[Jazz (G1)/toys#Legacy|G2 Universe Autobot Jazz]].
* '''2023 —''' First day of the ''[[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts (film)|Rise of the Beasts]]'' [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] & [[Optimus Primal (ROTB)|Optimus Primal]] World Tour in [[Singapore]].
* '''2023 —''' The ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|Transformers: EarthSpark]]'' episode "[[Security Protocols]]" premieres on [[Nickelodeon]] in the UK.

March 15

2023-03-21T15:27:00Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

<noinclude>{{cal-date|3|15}}</noinclude>
*'''[[1942]] —''' Brazilian voice actor [[Sílvio Navas]] is born.
*'''[[1946]] —''' [[Guy Chapellier]] (European French voice of [[John F. Kennedy]] in ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]'') is born.
*'''[[1948]] —''' [[Yūji Mikimoto]] (voice of [[Pointblank]], [[Diver (G1)|Diver]] and [[Black Shadow (G1)|Black Shadow]]) is born.
*'''1948 —''' [[Yūsaku Yara]] (voice of [[Dai Atlas (G1)|Dai Atlas]]) is born.
*'''[[1952]] —''' Musician [[Enzo Draghi]] is born.
*'''[[1954]] —''' [[Bob Budiansky]], the man responsible for basically creating ''Transformers'' as a fiction, is born.
*'''[[1983]] —''' To control the previous year's leaks about [[Non-Biological Extraterrestrial|N.B.E.]]'s to the public, [[Sector Seven|S7 Industries]] collaborates with Japanese toymaker [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] to produce a movie based on the "video game" about the giant robots they were developing. {{storylink|SectorSeven.org|Sector Seven ARG}}
*'''[[1992]] —''' [[Victoria Frenz]] (German voice of [[Charlie Watson]]) is born.
*'''[[2000]] —''' The ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]'' episode "[[Home Soil]]" premieres in the US.
*'''2000 —''' The ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars Metals]]'' episode "[[Nemesis Part 1|Ka-Boom!]]" airs in Japan.
*'''[[2004]] —''' ''[[Transformers: The War Within|The War Within]] Vol. 1'' is published in Japan by JIVE Ltd.
*'''[[2005]] —''' "[[Intense Race Planet! Velocitron|Intense Race Planet! Speedia]]" is serialized by ''[[Comic Bom Bom]]'' in their April 2005 issue.
*'''[[2006]] —''' ''[[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering]]'' [[The Gathering issue 2|#2]] is released by [[IDW Publishing]].
*'''2006 —''' ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]—Season 1'' is released on DVD in Australia by [[Madman Entertainment]].
*'''[[2008]] —''' The ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Transformers Animated]]'' episode "[[Headmaster (episode)|Headmaster]]" premiers in the US.
*'''[[2009]] —''' Beware the {{w|Ides of March}}! The [[Transformers Wiki:Bookworm Crash|Bookworm Virus]] crashes the {{SITENAME_SHORT}} database. 3/15 NEVAR FORGET!!!
*'''[[2011]] —''' The [[Hasbro]] ''Transformers'' toy website updates with the "[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/play/details.cfm?guid=8132CBFF-5056-900B-10A1-C55E030665DD Mechtech 3D Toy Viewer]", revealing one new ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]'' [[MechTech]] toy a week, meant to be viewed through the 3D glasses that come with [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Dark of the Moon|Cyberverse "Limited Edition Preview" Optimus Prime]].
*'''[[2013]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' episodes "[[Darkmount, NV]]", "[[Scattered]]", and "[[Prey (episode)|Prey]]" premiere in Singapore on Okto.
*'''2013 —''' [[Regine Albrecht]] (voice of [[Strika (BM)|Strika]] in the German dub of [[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]) passes away.
*'''[[2014]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[Tip of the Iceberg]]" premieres on [[Hub Network]].
*'''[[2015]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]'' episode "[[Rumble in the Jungle]]" premieres on Cartoon Network in Australia.
*'''[[2017]]''' — ''[[G.I. Joe vol. 5|G.I. Joe]]'' [[G.I. Joe vol. 5 issue 3|#3]] and ''[[Revolutionaries]]'' [[The Secret of the Mummy's Tomb|#3]] are released by [[IDW Publishing]].
*'''[[2019]]''' — ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP10ASL|MP-10ASL Convoy (atmos safari LEBRON Ver.)]] is released through Japanese Atmos stores.
* '''[[2023]] —''' First day of the ''[[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts (film)|Rise of the Beasts]]'' [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] & [[Optimus Primal (ROTB)|Optimus Primal]] World Tour in [[São Paulo]], [[Brazil]].
* '''2023 —''' [[Transformers Go! Go!]] [[Go! Go! issue 22|#22]] is published.
* '''2023 —''' The ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|Transformers: EarthSpark]]'' episode "[[Missed Connection]]" premieres on [[Nickelodeon]] in the UK.
[[Category:Fictional events by day]]

March 14

2023-03-21T15:26:10Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

<noinclude>{{cal-date|3|14}}</noinclude>

* '''[[1929]] —''' [[José Santa Cruz]] (Brazilian voice of [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Generation 1 Megatron]], [[Megatron (Armada)/Cartoon continuity|''Armada'' Megatron]] and [[Megatron (Movie)|movie Megatron]]) is born in João Pessoa.
* '''[[1942]] —''' [[Gilberto Baroli]] (Brazilian voice of [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#The Transformers cartoon|Soundwave]], [[Rampage (BW)#Beast Wars cartoon|Violência]] and [[Tracks (Animated)|Tracks]]) is born.
* '''[[1966]] —''' [[Gary Anthony Williams]] (voice of [[Slicedice]] on ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]'') is born.
* '''[[1967]] —''' [[Achille D'Aniello]] (Italian voice of [[Thrust (BM)|two]] [[Thrust (Armada)|Thrusts]], [[Skyblast (Energon)|Skyblast]] and [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]]) is born.
* '''[[1970]] —''' [[Gianluca Iacono]] (Italian voice of [[Quickstrike (BW)|''Beast Wars'' Quickstrike]], [[Prowl (Animated)|''Animated'' Prowl]] and [[Starscream (WFC)|''War For Cybertron'' and ''Prime'' Starscream]]) is born.
* '''[[1971]] —''' [[Yasuyuki Kase]] (Japanese voice of ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]'' [[Red Alert (Armada)|Red Alert]] and [[Brimstone (Cybertron)|Brimstone]]) is born.
* '''[[1979]] —''' [[Wang Kai]] (Chinese voice of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]) is born.
* '''1979 —''' Artist [[Marcelo Matere]] is born.
* '''[[1983]] —''' [[Ferso Velázquez]] (Latin-American Spanish radio voice of [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] in the ''[[live-action film series]]'' and real voice of [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]] in ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'') is born.
* '''[[1986]] —''' The ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]]'' episode "[[The Gambler|Monacus, the Planet of Gambling]]" premieres in Japan.
* '''[[1989]] —''' The ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (cartoon)|Victory]]'' cartoon premieres in Japan with the episode "[[The Brave Hero of the Universe - Star Saber]]".
* '''[[1991]] —''' [[Thaís Dutra]] (Brazilian voice of [[Twitch]]) is born.
* '''[[1993]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)|Headmasters]]'' episode "[[The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 2)|The Last Battle on Earth, Part 2]]" airs in Malaysia.
* '''[[1997]] —''' Brazilian voice actor [[André Filho]] dies at age 50.
* '''[[2001]] —''' ''[[Pony Canyon#Releases|Transformers: Car Robots—Vol. 9]]'' is released on DVD in Japan by [[Pony Canyon]].
* '''[[2003]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)|Legends of the Microns]]'' episode "[[Underground (episode)|迷路 (ちか) - underground]]" premieres in Japan.
* '''[[2007]] —''' ''[[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering|The Gathering]]'' Manga is released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''[[2009]] —''' The ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Animated]]'' triple-length third-season opening episode "[[TransWarped]]" premieres in the United States. Canada, however, gets only the first two parts.
* '''2009 —''' The ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (Comic Bun Bun)|Henkei! Henkei! Transformers]]'' manga chapter "[[Optimus Prime's Secret]]" is serialized in Japan in [[Comic Bun Bun]]'s April 2009 issue.
* '''[[2011]] —''' [[Hasbro]] [http://www.allspark.com/content/view/8616/20/ officially announces] a ''Transformers'' online game for the English-speaking bits of the world co-developed with [[Jagex|Jagex Games Studio]], to be released sometime in 2012. (It wasn't.)
* '''[[2012]] —''' ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye]]'' [[Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|#3]] and ''[[The Transformers (IDW)|The Transformers Volume 7: Chaos]]'' are released by [[IDW Publishing]]. ''[[The Transformers: Autocracy|Autocracy]]'' [[Ruins|#5]] is also released digitally.
* '''2012 —''' The last day of [[Cybertron Con 2012]] at Resorts World Sentosa in Singapore.
* '''[[2015]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]'' episodes "[[Pilot (Part 1)]]" and "[[Pilot (Part 2)]]" premiere on Cartoon Network in the US, three weeks after their English premiere in Australia.
* '''2015 —''' The ''Robots in Disguise'' episode "[[True Colors]]" premieres on Cartoon Network in Australia.
* '''2015 —''' The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[All Bots Great and Small]]" premieres on [[Discovery Family]].
* '''[[2016]] —''' "[[High Noon (SG)|High Noon]]" is released by [[Fun Publications]].
* '''[[2018]] —''' ''[[Rom vs. Transformers: Shining Armor]]'' TPB, ''[[The Transformers: Lost Light|Lost Light]]'' [[The Everlasting Voices (1): Metastasis|#16]] and ''[[The Transformers: Redemption of the Dinobots]]'' TPB are released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''2023 —''' The ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|Transformers: EarthSpark]]'' episode "[[Outtakes]]" premieres on [[Nickelodeon]] in the UK.

March 13

2023-03-20T23:14:33Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

<noinclude>{{cal-date|3|13}}</noinclude>
*'''[[1966]] —''' [[Mario Filio]] (Latin-American Spanish voice of [[William Fowler]] in ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'') is born.
*'''[[1976]] —''' Actor [[Jérémie Covillault]] (French voice of [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] in the ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron Trilogy (cartoon)|War for Cybertron Trilogy]]'') is born.
*'''[[1982]] —''' [[Wataru Hatano]] (voice of ''[[Robotmasters (cartoon)|Robotmasters]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]) is born.
*'''[[1987]] —''' The ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers 2010]]'' episode "[[Ghost in the Machine (G1)|Starscream's Revival]]" airs in Japan.
*'''[[1989]] —''' Voice actress [[Chisato Mori]] is born.
*'''[[2007]] —''' The [[Kiss Players episode 49|49th show]] in the [[Transformers: Kiss Players (radio drama)|''Kiss Players'' radio drama series]] airs in Japan on the "Transformers Kiss Play: Transformers News Center" program.
*'''[[2008]] —''' "[[Gone Too Far]]" is released through the [[Fun Publications]] [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] members-only site.
*'''2008 —''' Japanese [[Toys"R"Us]] stores offer the [[exclusive]] [[Skyglide]] [[Mini-Con|Micron]] with the purchase of any ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei!]]'' product.
*'''2008 —''' [[Melissa Hernández]] (Mexican voice of [[Mo Malto]]) is born.
* '''[[2012]] —''' Third day of [[Cybertron Con 2012]] at Resorts World Sentosa in Singapore.
*'''[[2013]] —''' ''[[The Transformers: Regeneration One|Regeneration One]]'' [[Natural Selection, Part Four|#89]] and ''[[The Transformers: Monstrosity|Monstrosity]]'' [[Wreckage (issue)|#2]] (digital edition) are released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''2013 —''' French actor [[Francis Lax]] (European French voice of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]], [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] and many others in the ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|original cartoon]]'') passes away at 82, following a long fight against an illness.
*'''[[2014]] —''' [[Transformers Cloud|Transformers Cloud: Spacetime World: Guardians of Time]] [[Showdown (Cloud)|Chapter 2: Part 3]] is first published.
*'''[[2019]] —''' ''[[Transformers (2019 comic)|Transformers]]'' [[The World In Your Eyes Part One|#1]] is released by [[IDW Publishing]].
*'''[[2023]] —''' IGN publishes an article officially revealing the [[Buzzworthy Bumblebee]] Jungle Mission 3-Packs [[Cheetor (ROTB)#Buzzworthy Bumblebee|Cheetor]], [[Nightbird (ROTB)#Buzzworthy Bumblebee|Nightbird]], and [[Wheeljack (Movie)#Buzzworthy Bumblebee|Wheeljack]], [[Airazor (ROTB)#Buzzworthy Bumblebee|Airazor]], [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Buzzworthy Bumblebee|Bumblebee]], and [[Dino#Buzzworthy Bumblebee|Autobot Mirage]] and the Beast Weaponizers [[Scorponok (ROTB)#Buzzworthy Bumblebee|Predacon Scorponok]] with [[Sandspear#Buzzworthy Bumblebee|Sandspear]].
*'''2023 —''' [[Pluto TV]] [[Canada]] launches the Transformers TV channel.
* '''2023 —''' The ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|Transformers: EarthSpark]]'' episode "[[Hashtag: Oops]]" premieres on [[Nickelodeon]] in the UK.

November 25

2022-11-20T22:23:15Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

<noinclude>{{cal-date|11|25}}</noinclude>

* '''19?? —''' [[Chie Hirano]] (voice of [[Vector Sigma]] in ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo (cartoon)|Beast Wars Neo]]'') is born.
* '''[[1962]] —''' [[Miguel Ángel Ghigliazza]] (Mexican voice of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]], [[Bobby Bolivia]], ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' [[Bludgeon (ROTF)|Bludgeon]], and ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (franchise)|Dark of the Moon]]'' [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]].) is born.
* '''[[1967]] —''' [[Marc Saez]] (French voice of ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|ROTF]]'' [[Breakaway (ROTF)|Breakaway]] and ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|War for Cybertron]]'' [[Silverbolt (WFC)|Silverbolt]]) is born.
* '''[[1985]] —''' The ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Transformers]]'' episode "[[The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1]]" premieres in the US.
* '''[[1990]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|Super-God Masterforce]]'' episode "[[Expose the Decepticons' Dark Trap!|The Revealing of the Evil Scheme]]" premieres in Malaysia.
* '''[[1993]] —''' [[Zeno Robinson]] (voice of [[Thrash Malto]] in [[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|Transformers: EarthSpark]]) is born.
* '''[[1998]] —''' The ''[[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars II]]'' episode "[[Lio Junior's Revolt!?]]" premieres in Japan.
* '''1998 —''' ''[[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars II]]—ACT. 8'' is released on VHS in Japan by [[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]].
* '''[[2004]] —''' ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars Returns]]—Volume 1'' is released in Japan by [[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Geneon Entertainment]].
* '''[[2005]] —''' The ''[[Information Administration Teletraan 15 Go! Go!|15 Go! Go!]]'' chapter "[[Galvatron Volume]]" is published in the January 2006 issue of ''[[Dengeki Hobby]]''.
* '''[[2006]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Cybertron]]'' TV special "[[Primus Unleashed (TV special)|Primus Unleashed]]" airs on [[Toonami]].
* '''2006 —''' The ''15 Go! Go!'' chapter "[[Mysterious Falling Star Volume]]" is published in the January 2007 issue of ''Dengeki Hobby''.
* '''[[2009]] —''' ''[[Transformers: Tales of the Fallen|Tales of the Fallen]]'' [[Tales of the Fallen issue 4|#4]] is released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''2009 —''' [[Fun Publications]] reveals the 2010 [[Transformers Collectors' Club|fan club]] freebie figure in their members-only portion of their website: [[Dion (G1)#Timelines|Elite Guard Dion]].
* '''[[2015]]''' — ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' [[The Lopsided Triangle|#47]] and ''[[The Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers|Sins of the Wreckers]]'' [[Sins of the Wreckers issue 1|#1]] are released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''[[2017]] —''' [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' [[Sixshot (G1)#Legends|LG50 Sixshot]], [[Doublecross#Legends|LG51 Targetmaster Doublecross]] (with [[Haywire#Legends|Haywire]]), [[Misfire (G1)#Legends|LG52 Targetmaster Misfire]] (with [[Aimless#Legends|Aimless]]), and [[Broadside (G1)#Legends|LG53 Broadside]] (with [[Repugnus (G1)#LG53|Repug Armor]]) and ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Sideswipe (G1)/toys#MP12Plus|MP-12+ Lambor Anime Color Edition]].
* '''[[2022]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|Transformers: EarthSpark]]'' episode "[[Age of Evolution, Part 2]]" premieres on [[Nickelodeon]] in the UK.

November 24

2022-11-20T22:22:17Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

<noinclude>{{cal-date|11|24}}</noinclude>

* '''[[1957]] —''' [[Jens-Uwe Bogadtke]] (German voice of ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' [[Jazz (Animated)|Jazz]]) is born.
* '''[[1959]] —''' [[Akio Ōtsuka]] (Japanese voice of ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' [[Lockdown (Animated)|Lockdown]]) is born.
* '''[[1980]] —''' Voice actress [[Jahel Morga]] is born.
* '''[[1983]] —''' Actress [[Karine Vanasse]] (Canadian French voice of [[Maggie Madsen]]) is born.
* '''[[1984]] —''' The ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Transformers]]'' episode "[[War of the Dinobots]]" premieres in the US.
* '''[[1988]] —''' The television series ''[[Mystery Science Theater 3000]]'' premieres, eventually inspiring [[MSTF]].
* '''[[1991]] —''' The ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (cartoon)|Victory]]'' episode "[[Ultimate Crisis!! Autobots|The Autobots in Crisis]]" premieres in Malaysia.
* '''[[1999]] —''' The ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars Metals]]'' episode "[[Code of Hero|Farewell!]]" airs in Japan.
* '''[[2003]] —''' ''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)|Armada]] - Vol:09'' is released on DVD in Australia by [[Warner Bros.|Warner Music Video]].
* '''[[2010]] —''' ''[[The Transformers: Best of Grimlock]]'' TPB and ''[[Transformers: Sector 7]]'' [[Together|#3]] are released by [[IDW Publishing]]. "[[Generation 2: Redux]]" retail edition is released in the US by [[Fun Publications]].
* '''2010 —''' ''[[Transformers Timelines (fiction)|Timelines #5:]]'' "[[Generation 2: Redux]]" retail edition is released by [[Fun Publications]].
* '''[[2012]] —''' [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|Prime]]'' [[Silas#Voyager|AM-24 Breakdown Silas]] with [[Magi]], [[Nemesis Prime (Prime)#Toys|AM-25 Nemesis Prime]] with [[Giza (Prime)|Giza]], [[Smokescreen (Prime)#Toys|AM-26 Smokescreen]] with [[S.S.]], and the ''[[EZ Collection]]'' sets "Team Autobot" ([[Optimus Prime (WFC)/toys#EZset|Optimus Prime]], [[Bumblebee (WFC)/toys#EZset|Bumblebee]], [[Ratchet (WFC)#EZset|Ratchet]], [[Bulkhead (Prime)#EZset|Bulkhead]], [[Arcee (WFC)#EZset|Arcee]], [[Wheeljack (Prime)#EZset|Wheeljack]]) and "Team Decepticon" ([[Megatron (WFC)#EZset|Megatron]], [[Starscream (WFC)#EZset|Starscream]], [[Vehicon (Prime)#EZset|Vehicon]], [[Knock Out (Prime)#EZset|Knock Out]], [[Breakdown (WFC)#EZset|Breakdown]] and [[Cliffjumper (WFC)#EZset|Terrorcon Cliffjumper]]).
* '''[[2018]] —''' [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Shockwave (G1)/toys#MP29Plus|MP-29+ Destron Laserwave]], ''[[Power of the Primes (toyline)|Power of the Primes]]'' [[The Fallen/toys#Power of the Primes|PP-37 Megatronus]], [[Outback (G1)#Power of the Primes|PP-38 Autobot Outback]], [[Cindersaur (G1)#Power of the Primes|PP-39 Cindersaur]], and [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#Power of the Primes|PP-40 Rodimus Unicronus]], and ''[[Transformers Encore|Encore]]'' [[Optimus Primal (BW)/toys#Encore|Returns Convoy]].
* '''2018 —''' The ''[[Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)|Cyberverse]]'' episode "[[Matrix of Leadership (episode)|Matrix of Leadership]]" airs on [[Cartoon Network]].
*'''[[2021]] —''' ''[[Transformers (2019 comic)|Transformers]]'' [[Darkness, Once Gazed Upon: Part One|#37]], ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars|Beast Wars]]'' [[Maximals Strike Back, Part 1|#10]] and ''[[Transformers: King Grimlock|King Grimlock]]'' [[Grimlock and the Sorcerer|#4]] are released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''[[2022]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|Transformers: EarthSpark]]'' episode "[[Age of Evolution, Part 1]]" premieres on [[Nickelodeon]] in the UK.

November 23

2022-11-20T22:21:44Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

<noinclude>{{cal-date|11|23}}</noinclude>
* '''[[1964]] —''' Comic artist [[Jim Fern]] is born in Long Island, New York.
* '''1964 —''' Actor [[Paolo Marchese]] (Italian voice of [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] and [[Cogman]] in the ''[[live-action film series]]'') is also born.
* '''[[1977]] —''' The S. S. Kresge Corporation is renamed to the [[Kmart]] Corporation.
* '''[[1986]] —''' [[Katia Sorrentino]] (Italian voice of ''Robots in Disguise'' (2015) [[Strongarm (RID)|Strongarm]]) is born.
* '''[[1997]] —''' The ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' episode "[[Maximal, No More]]" premieres in the US.
* '''[[2005]] —''' ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Galaxy Force]]'' - Vol. 06 is released on DVD in Japan by [[Victor Entertainment]].
* '''2005 —''' The ''[[Transformers Galaxy Force: Sound Pack 2]]'' soundtrack album is released in Japan by [[Victor Entertainment]].
* '''[[2013]] —''' Voice actor [[Ricardo Soto]] passes away as the result of heart problems.
*'''[[2016]] —''' ''[[The Transformers: Till All Are One|Till All Are One]]'' [[Ping|#5]], and ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 comic)|Transformers: Robots in Disguise]]'': ''More than Meets the Eye'' TPB are released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''2016 —''' "[[Journey's Eve]]" is released by [[Fun Publications]].
* '''[[2018]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)|Cyberverse]]'' episode "[[Matrix of Leadership (episode)|Matrix of Leadership]]" airs on the [[Cartoon Network]] app and website.
* '''[[2019]] —''' [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#MP45|MP-45 Cybertron Espionage Bumble (Ver. 2.0)]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)/toys#Masterpiece|MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars)]] and ''[[War for Cybertron: Siege|Siege]]'' [[Impactor (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|SG-36 Autobot Impactor]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#S40|SG-37 Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime]].
* '''2019 —''' The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots Academy (cartoon)|Rescue Bots Academy]]'' episodes "[[Milford Goes To The Dogs]]" and "[[The Ice Wave]]" premiere on [[Discovery Family]].
* '''[[2022]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|Transformers: EarthSpark]]'' episode "[[Decoy]]" premieres on [[Nickelodeon]] in the UK.

November 22

2022-11-20T22:20:56Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

<noinclude>{{cal-date|11|22}}</noinclude>

* '''[[1930]] —''' [[Jered Barclay]] (voice of Generation 1 [[Cerebros (G1)|Cerebros]] and [[Sinnertwin (G1)|Sinnertwin]]) is born.
* '''[[1933]] —''' Voice actor [[Alejandro Abdalah]] is born.
* '''[[1947]] —''' [[Pedro D'Aguillon Jr.]] (Latin American Spanish voice of [[Theodore Galloway]], [[Charlie Burns]] and [[Harold Attinger]]) is born.
* '''[[1953]] —''' Voice actor [[Alfonso Mellado]] is born.
* '''[[1954]] —''' [[Riccardo Rovatti]] (Italian voice of ''Animated'' [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]]) is born.
* '''[[1958]] —''' Voice actor [[Klaus-Peter Grap]] is born.
* '''[[1985]] —''' The ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]]'' episode "[[The Master Builders (episode)|Master Builder]]" premieres in Japan.
* '''[[1986]] —''' [[Scatman Crothers]] (voice of the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|original ''The Transformers'' cartoon]] [[Jazz (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Jazz]]) dies from lung cancer at age 76.
* '''[[1988]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|Super-God Masterforce]]'' episode "[[Destroy Godbomber!!]]" premieres in Japan.
* '''[[1989]] —''' Director [[Gerry Chiniquy]] dies in Ventura County, California.
* '''[[1991]] —''' [[Gianandrea Muià]] (Italian voice of [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] and [[Blaster (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Blaster]] in the Season 3 redub) is born.
* '''[[1992]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)|Headmasters]]'' episode "[[Fight to the Death on Planet Hive!!|The War on the Hive Planet]]" airs in Malaysia.
* '''[[2000]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)|Car Robots]]'' episode "[[The Human Element|The Mystery of Brave Maximus]]" premieres in Japan.
* '''[[2002]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]'' episode "[[Prehistory]]" premieres in the US.
* '''[[2006]] —''' ''[[Transformers: The Animated Movie]]'' [[To the Death—and Beyond!|#2]] is released by [[IDW Publishing]]. ''[[Transformers Timelines (fiction)|Transformers Timelines]]'' [[Dawn of Future's Past|Vol.2 #1]] is released commercially by [[Fun Publications]].
* '''[[2014]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[Unfinished Business]]" premieres on [[Discovery Family]].
* '''[[2015]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]'' episode "[[The Buzz on Windblade|The Legendary Female Warrior, Windblade]]" premieres in [[Japan]].
* '''[[2017]] —''' ''[[Optimus Prime (comic)|Optimus Prime]]'' [[The Dead Come Home, Part 1 (of 2)|#13]] is released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''[[2022]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|Transformers: EarthSpark]]'' episode "[[Friends and Family]]" premieres on [[Nickelodeon]] in the UK.

November 21

2022-11-20T22:20:26Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

<noinclude>{{cal-date|11|21}}</noinclude>
* '''[[1929]] —''' [[Mike Reynolds]] (voice of [[Railspike (RID)|Railspike]] from ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|2001 Robots in Disguise]]'') is born.
* '''[[1956]] —''' Lyricist [[Alessandra Valeri Manera]] is born.
* '''[[1959]] —''' [[Naoko Watanabe]] (voice of [[Akira Serikawa]] from ''[[Enter the New Supreme Commander, Dai Atlas!|Zone]]'') is born.
* '''1959 —''' Voice actress [[Mari Mashiba]] is born.
* '''[[1964]] —''' Voice actress [[Yumiko Shibata]] is born.
* '''[[1985]] —''' The ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Transformers]]'' episode "[[Hoist Goes Hollywood (episode)|Hoist Goes Hollywood]]" premieres in the US.
* '''[[1986]] —''' The ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Transformers: 2010]]'' OP/ED single "[[Transformer 2010|TRANSFORMER 2010]]"/"[[What's You|WHAT'S YOU]]" is released in Japan by [[Victor Entertainment]].
* '''1986 —''' The ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers 2010]]'' episode "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 2|The Revived New Emperor of Destruction]]" airs in Japan.
* '''[[1989]] —''' The ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (cartoon)|Victory]]'' episode "[[The Strongest! Victory Saber]]" premieres in Japan.
* '''[[1997]] —''' The Japanese ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' OP/ED single "[[War War! Stop It|WAR WAR! STOP IT]]"/"[[For the Dream|FOR THE DREAM]]" is released by [[Columbia Music Entertainment]].
* '''[[1998]] —''' The ''[[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars II]] — [[Hyper Music|Hyper Music: Original Soundtrack Vol. 2]]'' album is released in Japan by [[Columbia Music Entertainment]].
* '''[[2003]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)|Legends of the Microns]]'' episode "[[Portent|信頼 (ぺんだんと) - portent]]" premieres in Japan.
* '''2003 —''' The ''[[Transformers: Showdown]]'' TPB is released by [[Titan Books]].
* '''[[2004]] —''' The ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars Returns]]'' episode "[[The Weak Component|The Promised Dawn]]" premiers in Japan.
* '''[[2006]] —''' The 33rd show in the [[Transformers: Kiss Players (radio drama)|''Kiss Players'' radio drama series]] airs in Japan on the "Transformers Kiss Play: Transformers News Center" program.
* '''[[2009]] —''' [[Legends Class (2005)|EZ Collection]] "[[Rampage (ROTF)#DesertAttackJTRU|Desert Attack Rampage]]" is made available as a gift from [[Toys"R"Us]] stores in Japan, with the purchase of 3000 yen of ''Transformers'' product.
* '''2009 —''' [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Eldedroid#Masterpiece|MP-1B Convoy Black Version]].
* '''[[2012]] —''' ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye]]'' [[Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|#11]] and ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise]]'' [[The End of the Beginning of the World|#11]] are released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''[[2015]]''' — [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''Q-Collaboration'' [[Kamiusagi Rope|QTC03 Kamiusagi Rope]] and [[Akira Senpai|QTC04 Akira Sempai]].
* '''[[2017]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Titans Return (cartoon)|Titans Return]]'' episode "[[The Fight Begins]]" premieres on [[go90]].
* '''[[2018]] —''' ''[[Optimus Prime (comic)|Optimus Prime]]'' [[Post|#25]] (final issue) and ''[[Optimus Prime (comic)|Optimus Prime]]'' Volume 4 TPB are released by [[IDW Publishing]], bringing the [[2005 IDW continuity]] to a final close.
* '''2021 —''' ''[[Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)|Transformers: Cyberverse]] special and series finale [[The Perfect Decepticon]] peremieres in [[Portugal]].
* '''[[2022]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|Transformers: EarthSpark]]'' episode "[[Traditions]]" premieres on [[Nickelodeon]] in the UK.

November 18

2022-11-20T22:19:47Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

<noinclude>{{cal-date|11|18}}</noinclude>
* '''[[1890]] —''' Earliest date for [[Jetfire (Movie)|Jetfire]] to assume the alt mode of a pre-dreadnought battleship and masquerade as the [[USS Maine|USS ''Maine'']].
* '''[[1931]] —''' Voice actor [[Garcia Neto]] is born.
* '''[[1946]] —''' Writer [[Alan Dean Foster]] is born.
* '''[[1985]] —''' The ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Transformers]]'' episode "[[The Girl Who Loved Powerglide]]" premieres in the [[United States of America|U.S.]]
* '''[[1986]] —''' The ''Transformers'' episode "[[Call of the Primitives]]" premieres in the U.S.
* '''[[1989]] —''' [[Johnny Haymer]] (the voice of the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|original ''The Transformers'' cartoon]] [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]]) dies of cancer at age 69.
* '''[[1990]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|Super-God Masterforce]]'' episode "[[Life? Death? The Desperate Lightfoot|The Struggle Between Life and Death]]" premieres in Malaysia.
* '''[[1996]] —''' The ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' episode "[[The Trigger, Part 1]]" premieres in the U.S.
* '''[[1998]] —''' The ''[[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars II]]'' episode "[[Knock Out Nemesis]]" premieres in [[Japan]].
* '''[[2009]] —''' [[IDW Publishing]]'s new ongoing series launches with ''[[The Transformers (IDW)|The Transformers]]'' [[...For All Mankind|#1]].
* '''[[2012]] —''' ''[[Transformers: Prime - The Game]]'' is released as a launch title for the [[Nintendo]] [[Wii U]].
* '''[[2013]] —''' The second-third of the ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Prime]]'' movie, "[[Predacons Rising (Prime)|Predacons Rising - Part 2]]", premieres in episode form on [[Hub Network|The Hub]].
* '''[[2015]] —''' ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|The Transformers (vol.2)]]'' [[Conquerors Part 2: Lagrange|#47]] is released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''[[2020]] —''' [[Kirby Morrow]] (voice of [[Rad White]] and [[Hot Shot (Armada)|''Cybertron'' Hot Shot]]) dies at the age of 47 due to substance abuse.
* '''[[2022]] —''' [[Hasbro Pulse]] reveals the first colour renders of the [[HasLab]] ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (franchise)|Victory]]''/''[[Transformers: Legacy (toyline)|Legacy]]'' [[Deathsaurus (G1)#HasLab|Decepticon Deathsaurus]] with [[Tigerchest#HasLab|Tigerchest]] and [[Eaglechest#HasLab|Eaglechest]].
* '''2022 —''' The ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|Transformers: EarthSpark]]'' episode "[[Classified]]" premieres on [[Nickelodeon]] in the UK.

November 17

2022-11-20T22:19:10Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

<noinclude>{{cal-date|11|17}}</noinclude>
*'''[[1960]] —''' [[Kiyomitsu Mizūchi]] (Japanese voice of ''[[Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|Age of Extinction]]'' [[Drift (AOE)|Drift]]) is born.
*'''[[1969]] —''' [[Ryōtarō Okiayu]] (Japanese voice of ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|Super Link]]'' [[Rodimus (Energon)|Rodimus Convoy]] and ''[[Transformers: Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]]'' [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rodimus]]) is born.
*'''[[1984]] —''' The ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Transformers]]'' episode "[[The Ultimate Doom, Part 3]]" premieres in the US.
*'''[[1986]] —''' The ''Transformers'' episode "[[Money Is Everything (episode)|Money Is Everything]]" premieres in the US.
*'''[[1991]] —''' The ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (cartoon)|Victory]]'' episode "[[Fight!! Victory Leo|Go to Battle, Victory Leo]]" premieres in Malaysia.
*'''[[1999]] —''' The ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars Metals]]'' episode "[[Other Visits (Part 2)|Huh? The Face?]]" airs in Japan.
*'''[[2001]] —''' The [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)|''Robots in Disguise'' (2001) cartoon]] episode "[[Peril from the Past]]" premieres in the US.
*'''[[2003]] —''' ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|The Transformers]]—Season 2 Part 1'' is released on DVD in the UK by [[Metrodome]].
*'''[[2004]] —''' ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|Super Link]]—Volume 007'' is released on DVD in Japan by [[Interchannel]].
*'''2004 —''' [[Multiplicity, Pt. 4|''Transformers Energon'' #29]] is released by [[Dreamwave Productions]].
*'''[[2008]] —''' [[Buenos Aires]] is trashed when [[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]] arrives to hunt down [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]]. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 2}}
*'''[[2009]] —''' "[[Blitzwing Bop]]" is released online through the [[Fun Publications]] [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] members-only section.
*'''[[2011]] —''' ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]'' [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Striker|Striker Optimus Prime]], [[Air Raid (Movie)#HasbroDOTM|Seeker Air Raid]], [[Leadfoot (DOTM)#Deluxe toys|Deluxe Leadfoot]], [[Human Alliance]] [[Soundwave (ROTF)#Human Alliance|Soundwave]], and ''[[Cyberverse (toyline)|Cyberverse]]'' [[Soundwave (ROTF)#Cyberverse|Soundwave]] are released in Japan.
*'''[[2012]] —''' [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[Transformers United|United EX]]'' [[Gravedigger|Buildmaster]], [[Clouder|Assaultmaster]] and the [[Grindcore (Movie)|Tankmaster]] vs [[Manta Ray (G2)|Marinemaster]] set.
*'''[[2016]] —''' "[[Not All Megatrons]]" is released by [[Fun Publications]].
*'''2016 —''' "[[A Brush With Infamy–Prologue]]" is also released by Fun Publications, hidden in the above text. Those sneaks!
*'''[[2018]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)|Cyberverse]]'' episode "[[Teletraan-X (episode)|Teletraan-X]]" airs on [[Cartoon Network]] while episodes "[[Matrix of Leadership (episode)|Matrix of Leadership]]" and "[[Siloed]]" air in Singapore.
*'''[[2021]] —''' ''[[The Transformers: The IDW Collection Phase Three: Volume 1|The IDW Collection Phase Three: Volume 1]]'' is released by [[IDW Publishing]].
*'''[[2022]] —''' [[Hasbro]] annouces it will be putting the non-brand aspects of [[Entertainment One]] up for sale.
* '''2022 —''' The ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|Transformers: EarthSpark]]'' episode "[[House Rules]]" premieres on [[Nickelodeon]] in the UK.

November 16

2022-11-20T22:18:32Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

<noinclude>{{cal-date|11|16}}</noinclude>
* '''[[1952]] —''' Writer [[Dean Stefan]] is born.
* '''[[1955]] —''' [[Masato Hirano]] (voice of [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]], [[King Poseidon]], [[Kakuryu (G1)|Kakuryu]], among others) is born.
* '''[[1962]] —''' [[Jin Yamanoi]] (Japanese voice of ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Legends of the Microns]]'' [[Starscream (Armada)/Cartoon continuity|Starscream]], ''Armada'' [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]], [[Brian Jones|Dr. Brian Jones]] and [[Robert Epps]]) is born.
* '''[[1964]] —''' [[Harry Lennix]] (voice of [[Cyclonus (WFC)|Cyclonus]] on ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]'') is born.
* '''[[1970]] —''' Voice actor [[Cristian Lizama]] is born.
* '''[[1971]] —''' Actress [[France Bastoen]] (French voice of ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Prime]]'' [[Airachnid (Prime)|Airachnid]]) is born.
* '''[[1993]] —''' [[Pete Davidson]] is born. Give you a good guess why?
* '''[[1997]] —''' The ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' episode "[[Tangled Web]]" premieres in the US.
* '''[[2011]] —''' ''[[The Transformers (IDW)|The Transformers]]'' [[Chaos Part Four: Genesis|#30]] is released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''[[2011]] —''' The Diamond edition of "[[The Stunti-Con Job]]" is released by [[Fun Publications]].
* '''[[2017]] —''' [[Hiromi Tsuru]] (Voice of [[Copo]]) dies at the age of 57 from aortic dissection.
* '''[[2018]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)|Cyberverse]]'' episode "[[Teletraan-X (episode)|Teletraan-X]]" airs on the [[Cartoon Network]] app and website.
* '''[[2019]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots Academy (cartoon)|Rescue Bots Academy]]'' episodes "[[Flying Hunk-A-Junk]]" and "[[Into the Depths]]" premiere on [[Discovery Family]].
* '''[[2022]] —''' ''[[Transformers (2019 comic)|Transformers Volume 6: War's End]]'' HC and and ''[[Transformers: Last Bot Standing|Last Bot Standing]]'' TPB are released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''[[2022]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|Transformers: EarthSpark]]'' episode "[[Moo-ving In]]" premieres on [[Nickelodeon]] in the UK.

November 15

2022-11-20T22:16:49Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

<noinclude>{{cal-date|11|15}}</noinclude>
* '''[[1946]] —''' Actor [[Marc Bellier]] (Canadian French voice of [[Morshower]]) is born.
* '''[[1953]] —''' Marvel inker [[Mike Gustovich]] is born.
* '''[[1964]] —''' Colorist [[Art Lyon]] is born.
* '''[[1974]] —''' Voice actor [[Nelson Medina]] is born.
* '''[[1976]] —''' Writer [[James Roberts]] is born, at 1:13 PM, on the dot.
* '''[[1978]] —''' Voice actor [[Ben Pronsky]] is born.
* '''[[1981]] —''' [[Sammy Sheik]] ([[Faraj]] in ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark Of The Moon]]'') is born.
* '''[[1985]] —''' The ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]]'' episode "[[Dinobot Island, Part 2|Showdown! Dinobot - Part 2]]" premieres in Japan.
* '''[[1986]] —''' Voice actor [[Matthew Patrick]] is supposedly born. But that's just a theory...
* '''[[1988]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|Super-God Masterforce]]'' episode "[[Escape!! The Underwater Volcano Erupts]]" premieres in Japan.
* '''[[1992]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)|Headmasters]]'' episode "[[Daniel Faces His Biggest Crisis Ever!!|Danny, the Little Hero]]" airs in Malaysia.
* '''[[1998]] —''' The ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' episode "[[Cutting Edge]]" premieres in the US.
* '''[[2000]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)|Car Robots]]'' episode "[[Maximus Emerges|Stolen Plasma]]" premieres in Japan.
* '''2000 —''' ''[[Pony Canyon#Releases|Transformers: Car Robots — Vol. 5]]'' is released on DVD in Japan by [[Pony Canyon]].
* '''[[2002]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]'' episode "[[Ruin]]" premieres in the US.
* '''[[2006]] —''' "[[Spotlight: Hot Rod]]" is released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''[[2008]] —''' The ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (Comic Bun Bun)|Henkei! Henkei! Transformers]]'' manga chapter "[[The Emperor of Destruction Appears!]]" is serialized in Japan in [[Comic Bun Bun]]'s December 2008 issue.
* '''[[2014]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[Phantom of the Sea]]" premieres on [[Discovery Family]].
* '''[[2017]] —''' ''[[The Transformers: All Hail Megatron|The Complete All Hail Megatron]]'' Paperback Trade is released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''2017 —''' ''[[Transformers: The Definitive G1 Collection|Transformers: The Definitive G1 Collection: Volume 14: Space Pirates]]'' is released by [[Hachette|Hachette Partworks]].
* '''[[2022]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|Transformers: EarthSpark]]'' episode "[[Secret Legacy, Part 2]]" premieres on [[Nickelodeon]] in the UK.

November 14

2022-11-20T22:12:10Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

<noinclude>{{cal-date|11|14}}</noinclude>
* '''[[1958]] —''' [[Francesco Pannofino]] (Italian voice of [[Bobby Bolivia]] and ''Age of Extinction'' [[Hound (Movie)|Hound]]) is born.
* '''[[1962]] —''' [[Atsuko Tanaka]] (Japanese voice of [[Botanica (BM)|Botanica]] in ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]'' and [[Slipstream (Animated)|Slipstream]] in ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Animated]]'') is born.
* '''1962 —''' [[Jessica Straus]] (voice of [[Slipstream (WFC)|Slipstream]] in ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)|War for Cybertron]]'') is born.
* '''[[1972]] —''' [[Josh Duhamel]] ([[William Lennox]] in the [[live-action film series]]) is born by riding a motorcycle out of his mother, jumping off it, and shooting the doctor between the legs as he slides underneath him.
* '''[[1973]] —''' [[Mikey Kelley]] (voice of [[Heatseeker]] in ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]'') is born.
* '''[[1986]] —''' The ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Transformers]]'' episode "[[Grimlock's New Brain]]" premieres in the US.
* '''1986 —''' The ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers 2010]]'' episode "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1|The New War]]" airs in Japan.
* '''[[1989]] —''' The ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (cartoon)|Victory]]'' episode "[[The Death-Bringing Space Insects!!]]" premieres in Japan.
* '''[[2003]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)|Legends of the Microns]]'' episode "[[Drift (episode)|運命 (しんじつ) - drift]]" premieres in Japan.
* '''[[2004]] —''' The ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars Returns]]'' episode "[[Mercenary Pursuits|The Transformation of a Dear Wish]]" premieres in Japan.
* '''[[2006]] —''' The 32nd show in the [[Transformers: Kiss Players (radio drama)|''Kiss Players'' radio drama series]] airs in Japan on the "Transformers Kiss Play: Transformers News Center" program.
* '''[[2013]] —''' The first-third of the ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Prime]]'' movie, "[[Predacons Rising (Prime)|Predacons Rising - Part 1]]", premieres in episode form on [[Hub Network|The Hub]].
* '''[[2015]] —''' [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 toyline)#Japanese toy line|Adventure]]'' [[Optimus Prime (WFC)/toys#Adventure|TAV33 Optimus Prime Supreme Mode]], TAVVS05 [[Drift (RID)#Adventure|Drift Origin]] and [[Jazz (WFC)#Adventure|Jazz Battle Mode]] and [[Sideswipe (RID)#Hyper Change Heroes / 3-Step Changers|TED-15 Big Sideswipe]], and ''[[Q-Transformers]]'' [[Megatron (G1)/toys#Q-Transformers|QT-32 Black Megatron]] and [[Nemesis Prime (G1)#Q-Transformers|QT-33 Black Convoy]].
* '''[[2017]] —''' The first two episodes of ''[[Transformers: Titans Return (cartoon)|Titans Return]]'', "[[Aftermath and Rebirth]]" and "[[Our Heroes Respond]]", premiere on [[go90]].
* '''[[2018]] —''' ''[[Transformers: Unicron]]'' [[Ceremony|#6]] (final issue) and ''[[Star Trek vs. Transformers]]'' [[Prime's Directive, Part Two|#2]] are released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''[[2022]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|Transformers: EarthSpark]]'' episode "[[Secret Legacy, Part 1]]" premieres on [[Nickelodeon]] in the UK.

Tough Luck Chuck (episode)

2022-01-02T14:57:35Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible: /* Animation and technical errors */

{{disambig2|the episode|the drone|Tough Luck Chuck}}
{{episode|
|otherseries=''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots Academy (cartoon)|Transformers: Rescue Bots Academy]]'' ep 4
|image=RBA - Tough Luck Chuck.jpg
|caption=The story of a dummy and his bots.
|prev=If at First...
|next=Whirl'd View
|title="Tough Luck Chuck"
|airdate=[[January 5]], [[2019]]
|production company=[[Allspark Animation]]
|writer=[[Brian Hohlfeld]]
|animation studio=[[Boulder Media Studio]]
|director=[[Ray Quigley]]
|video=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltmeTlHXxr0
|videosite=YouTube
}}

'''Hot Shot has to baby-sit the damaged RBA Test Robot, who won't stay put.'''

==Synopsis==
The five recruits drive through a city towards a mystery rescue they've been assigned. [[Hot Shot (Prime)|Hot Shot]] is frustrated that they're driving so slowly, but [[Hoist (RB)|Hoist]] and [[Medix (RB)|Medix]] remind him that [[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]] is having them drive safely and in formation. Hot Shot turns off in order to take a short cut, only to accidentally run down [[Tough Luck Chuck]] on a crosswalk. Heatwave halts the simulation and points out the basic error. Unfortunately the damage to Chuck is more extensive than usual, and [[Boulder]] is going to have to make some new parts, which means someone will have to look after Chuck while that happens. Hot Shot is "volunteered" for the task by Heatwave, who has something to attend to in [[Milford]].

[[File:RBA - Tough Luck Chuck - Angry Heatwave.jpg|thumb|left|250px|"Always answer every question with 'Yes, Heatwave!'."]]
Hot Shot plays video games with Chuck strapped into a chair nearby. Chuck soon slips free from his bonds forcing Hot Shot to stop playing his game so he can stop the errant robot from wandering off. Spotting [[Whirl (RBA)|Whirl]] doing some research nearby, Hot Shot attempts to rope her into looking after Chuck instead, but while he's doing that, Chuck disappears on them. The pair start a search of the base and eventually find that [[Wedge (RBA)|Wedge]] and Hoist have found Chuck in the [[GroundBridge]] room. Hot Shot again tries to hand off his bot-sitting duties, but Hoist accidentally drops Chuck, just as Heatwave returns through the GroundBridge. Heatwave fails to notice anything and leaves, while Chuck promptly staggers through the still-open GroundBridge. The recruits determine that the Groundbridge has deposited the hapless drone in Milford. If a human finds Chuck, they may realize that he's constructed with alien technology, exposing the Rescue Bots' secret. Unfortunately, this means they need to tell Heatwave.

Heatwave takes the recruits to Milford and they begin the search, though Hot Shot is concerned by the fact Heatwave is sticking with him. Whirl spots Chuck in a supermarket parking lot and Hot Shot heads there at high speed, almost taking out a hapless shopper. With Chuck secured, they return to the training center where Medix successfully repairs him. Hot Shot promises to do what Heatwave tells him in the future.

{{-}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Whirl (RBA)|Whirl]] (1)
*[[Medix (RB)|Medix]] (2)
*[[Hot Shot (Prime)|Hot Shot]] (3)
*[[Wedge (RBA)|Wedge]] (4)
*[[Hoist (RB)|Hoist]] (5)
*[[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]] (7)

|c4=
*[[Tough Luck Chuck]] (6)
|}}

==Quotes==
"I know we're still learning and all, but we're not supposed to run someone over on the way to the rescue, are we?"
:—'''Hoist'''

"What? Why me? It's not my fault he- well, yes it is, but still!"
:—'''Hot Shot''' finds himself looking after Chuck.

"Poor Chuck! What if something happens to him? Like he falls into a trash compactor, only it has sharks inside it. With lava breath! And laser eyes!" 
"I... don't think that could happen." 
"Not on my watch!"
:—'''Whirl''' and '''Hot Shot'''

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
*TBA

===Real life references===
*The infamous ''Scooby-Doo'' door chase scene appears during the Tough Luck Chuck hunt in the academy.

===Transformers references===
*TBA

===Animation and technical errors===
*The [[Netflix]] listing for this episode is mistakenly labeled "Bad Luck Chuck". The official ''Transformers'' YouTube channel also lists this episode as "The Rescue Bots Babysit a Dummy!!!" Three exclamation marks for either humor or drama.
*The Cybertronian text on Whirl's holographic book is upside down.
*The man Hot Shot almost runs down in the supermarket parking lot in [[Milford]] is the same man he and Whirl Rescue in [[Griffin Rock]] in "[[If at First...]]"... in robot mode.

===Trivia===
*The academy has a video game cabinet with a game featuring [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] which Hot Shot briefly plays.
*The text on Whirl's HUD as she scans Chuck reads "TOUGH LUCK CHUCK" and "CANNING".

===Foreign localization===
'''French'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Chuck la Poisse'''" ("Tough luck Chuck")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

==Home video releases==

[[Category:Rescue Bots Academy episodes]]

The Agenda (Part III)

2021-12-17T11:46:40Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible: I 100% expect someone to correct me on this. But I did research the differences between "namesake" and "eponym"

{{episode
|series=BWtoon
|ep=39
|image=G1Prime BWMegs.jpg
|caption=Head ''off''.
|title="The Agenda" (Part III)
|production company=[[Mainframe Entertainment]]
|airdate=[[March 12]], 1998 ([[Toonami]]), [[May 23]], 1998 (syndication)
|written by=[[Bob Forward]]
|directed by=[[Asaph Fipke]] [[Colin Davies]]
|animation studio=[[Mainframe Entertainment]]
|continuity=[[Beast Wars continuity]]
}}
'''His plans crumbling, Megatron takes a final stab at winning the Beast Wars and changing history.'''

==Synopsis==
With [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] and his [[transwarp cruiser]] backing them up, the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]] unleash a full assault on the [[Maximal]] [[Axalon (BW)|base]]. [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] changes to [[beast mode]] and jumps onto the back of the transwarp cruiser, where he begins cutting into the ship's hull. On the battlefield, [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus]] and [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] are pinned down by the Predacons' firepower, but the [[autogun]]s manage to knock [[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]] from his perch atop [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]] and a short time later the larger Predacon runs him over.

[[File:Agenda 3 Rampage axalon.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Who decided to give the experiment awesome firepower?]]
It's not long before Ravage and Rampage bring down the base's shield, and [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] emerges to fire on Rampage. Ravage has [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]] transfer all the cruiser's power into one enormous missile. Before it can fire, Rattrap bursts into the ship's weapons hold and tosses a pair of [[Fusion weaponry#Fusion grenade|fusion grenade]]s that adhere to Tarantulas's hands. The bombs obliterate Tarantulas, the ship's interior, and Ravage—who faces the onrushing fireball with a stoic cry of "[[Decepticon]]s forever!" The cruiser falls out of the sky, coming to rest mere feet from Rampage—who is then blasted by the still-armed missile.

With the cruiser destroyed and his minions out of commission, [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]] flees. Optimus notes that he's not headed back to base, realizes [[Mount St. Hilary|where]] he's probably going, and orders the Maximals to pursue.

[[File:Ark BWAgenda1.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|OK, remember where we parked.]]
Meanwhile, [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] and [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)|Silverbolt]] make their way into the caves of the volcano, uncovering the object of Blackarachnia's quest—the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]]. Blackarachnia explains to Silverbolt that the ship was launched long ago, containing the Autobots' "finest heroes", and was shot down by Decepticons. The ship has members of both factions stored inside, who will awaken in the distant future to restart the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]]. Blackarachnia is concerned only with the power it possesses—but Megatron arrives just then, blasting Silverbolt offline and sealing the entrance to the caves behind him.

[[File:Agenda 3 Blackarachnia codes.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|What's it like to see things like Neo?]]
The Maximals arrive hot on his heels, find the sealed entrance, and start digging their way in. Inside, Megatron threatens to vaporize Silverbolt, convincing Blackarachnia to use the access codes to gain access to the Ark (though she vehemently maintains it's only so they'll have some cover in the face of the imminent Maximal attack). The Maximals burst through in time to see the two Predacons sealing the Ark behind them.

Blackarachnia activates the ship's defenses to hold off the Maximals, while Megatron goes to "effect a more permanent solution." Entering the main bridge of the ship, he hovers among the fallen Autobots and Decepticons, eulogizing the Decepticons and cursing the Autobots, until he comes face to face with his intended target—[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], the original [[Prime (rank)|leader]] of the [[Autobot]]s, who kept the Decepticons from victory (and therefore left their Predacon descendants in a subservient position to the dominant Maximals). Though the risk is incredible, Megatron decides to carry out [[Megatron (G1)|his namesake's]] instructions, charges his main weapon, and prepares to fire.

[[File:Agenda3 MegatronOptimusPrime.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Don't worry, we know [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|the drill]].]]
In the caves, the Maximals are pelted by fire from the ship's cannon, until Rattrap manages to force a backblast that deactivates the cannon and shields. [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] struggles to open the mighty doors of the Ark. But the Maximals are too late—Megatron unleashes a full-power blast at Optimus Prime's head, destroying it.

A time storm immediately wells up, spreading outward from the Ark and into space. The Maximals find themselves phasing in and out of past bodies—as well as out of existence—as Megatron emerges from the Ark, triumphant.
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==Featured characters==
Characters in ''italic text'' appear only in flashbacks. 
{{featuredcharacters
|h1=[[Maximal]]s|c1=
*[[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]] (2)
*[[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] (3)
*[[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] (6)
*[[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] (7)
*[[Silverbolt (Fuzor)|Silverbolt]] (10)

|h2=[[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]]|c2=
*[[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]] (1)
*[[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]] (4)
*[[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]] (5)
*[[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] (8)
*[[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]] (9)
*[[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] (11)

|h3=[[Autobot]]s|c3=
*[[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] (12)
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] (13)
*''[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]'' (14)
*[[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] (15)
*''[[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]'' (16)

|h4=[[Decepticon]]s|c4=
*[[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] (17)
*[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] (18)
*[[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] (19)
}}

==Quotes==
"Decepticons ''forever!''"
:—'''Ravage'''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s last words

"What're you looking at?" 
"That star—well, planet, really—it's Venus. Reminds me of you." 
"Oh. Hot, poisonous, and deadly? Heh heh, you're sweet." 
:—'''Blackarachnia''' and '''Silverbolt''', with a ref to the former's [[Venus Terzo|voice actress]]

"Stay with the group. When Megatron lands, we'll need all our firepower." 
"Where's he headed, Big Bot?" 
"To the beginning of everything, Cheetor, and quite possibly the end."
:—'''Optimus Primal''' and '''Cheetor'''

"I think we're almost through." 
"Then, stand back." 
"Wait, we just—" 
''Silverbolt blows the rocks away'' 
"Uh, never mind. What is it with guys and high explosives?" 
:—'''Blackarachnia''' and '''Silverbolt'''. ([[Michael Bay|Guys]] really don't know either.)

"Aw, man! That ship wasn't built, it was poured!" 
"[[Die-cast]] construction!" [''He {{w|Breaking the fourth wall|looks at the audience}}''] "It's a lost art."
:—'''Rattrap''' and '''Optimus Primal''' comment on the sturdiness of the Ark.

"Now I enter these hallowed halls...a conqueror...''yesss''. Autobots and Decepticons, still ''frozen'' in emergency stasis, awaiting the moment, four ''million'' years hence, when they will ''awaken'' to start the ''Great War''. Hmmm, the Great War, when the Autobots ''defeated'' the Decepticons, and thus their descendants, the ''Maximals'', rule we Predacons. Archaic energon [[Macromaster |guzzlers]]! How ''dare'' they? Hmmm, unwilling though I ''was'' to follow my namesake's instructions, it has ''all'' come down to ''this'': the ''ultimate'' risk, for the ''ultimate'' prize. A ''day of reckoning'' with ''those'' who made ''us'' '''slaves!'''"
:—'''Megatron''' enters the command bridge of the Ark.

"So, we are now ''face'' to ''face'', Optimus ''Prime''. In ''one'' future, you ''awaken'' and become the great ''leader'' of the ''Autobots''. But ''time'' shall take a ''different'' track, now. Computer! All available power to primary weapon! ... And now, Optimus Prime, in ''memory'' of the ''Decepticons''...for the ''glory'' of the ''Predacons''...for the ''Cybertron'' that is ''rightfully'' ours—and ''mine''—to rule! ...''I unleash the storm of vengeance...'''farewell!'''"
:—'''Megatron''' rewrites history

"TIME ITSELF IS ALL BEING ''DESTROYED''!!!!!"
:—'''Optimus Primal''' in disastrous pain

"''Muhahahaha!'' Say ''goodbye'' to the universe, ''Maximals''! The future has changed, ''yessssss''. The Autobots ''lose''! Evil ''triumphs!'' And ''you''...'''''YOU NO LONGER EXIST!'''''"
:—'''Megatron''' just can't help but gloat about his victory, can he?

==Notes==
===Script timeline===
* Finalised: 24th October 1997
* As Air: 18th February 1998

===Animation and technical errors===
[[File:Agenda3 opening.JPG|thumb|Yes, "Part Eye-Eye-Eye".]]
*Despite every other multi-part episode in ''Beast Wars'' using Arabic numerals in its title (including the first two parts of "The Agenda"), this episode opts for the Roman numeral for whatever reason.
*During the opening battle scene, Optimus Primal takes several shots to the chest, leaving it blackened and dented. In the shot of the Maximals watching Ravage's ship explode, his chest is undamaged-and then it goes back to damaged as he talks about why Ravage betrayed them.
*After Ravage's ship goes down and the Maximals decide to chase after Megatron, Optimus transforms to flight mode. His front, back, and upper torso are all messed up, to the point that he has to spin around a few times after transforming. (While this is happening, the scene mostly switches to Rattrap climbing on Cheetor.) Optimus is normal again when he tells Rhinox to "Get on."
*In the first close-up of Megatron's face in the volcano (after he shoots Silverbolt and Blackarachnia), his face is very dark- almost black.
*After Megatron blasts the entrance shut and the Maximals get off and find it covered, for a split second, the colors on Rattrap's wheels (on his back) and his rat legs are reversed.
*Rattrap's front rat legs are the same shiny red as his rat body as the Maximals land outside the mountain.
*In the Ark flashback, Optimus Prime's autobrands are on the back of his shoulders.
*This episode marks the commencement of an ongoing error, whereby [[Teletraan I]] is frequently pronounced "Tele''tron'' 1". The issue is resolved with [[Rattrap (BW)|extreme subtlety]] in "[[Nemesis Part 2]]".

===Continuity errors===
*This episode calls into sudden question the location of the Maximal and Predacon bases. The events of "[[Code of Hero]]" seem to place the series firmly somewhere in Africa, where early Humanity evolved; the templates for the Maximals' [[beast mode]]s (gorillas, cheetahs, rhinos) would seem to back this up. However, the Ark is traditionally seen to have crashed in the Pacific Northwest of the United States. If this is the case, the Maximals pursued Megatron across the Atlantic Ocean and over an entire continent! The early humans still appear before any theoretical "crossing of the Atlantic" could have taken place. When we get a shot of the Earth from space at the end of the episode, the planet is covered by clouds making it hard to locate exactly where the time storm is originating from.
**In an early script for "[[Nemesis Part 2]]" the Maximals would launch not the Autobot shuttle, but the Ark itself. This variation would have perhaps provided some sort of explanation to the mystery, as the Ark might, for example, have wound up in North America after fighting with the Nemesis again.
*Either way, it doesn't make much sense that the Maximals make ''no'' attempt to shoot down Megatron while he's still on the run, rather than waiting till he reaches his destination. In his defense, Optimus may have thought that they were at a disadvantage during the chase: Only Rattrap is in any position to attack (Optimus and Cheetor being in flight mode and Rhinox probably having enough problems balancing on Optimus's hoverboard), and Megatron would be hard to hit (he's pretty far away, and not presenting much of a target from Rattrap's position). Of course, that still doesn't explain why Optimus doesn't just let Cheetor and Rattrap fly ahead and get a better shot— later this very episode Rattrap is the only one who scores a direct hit on the Ark's fusion cannon, and [[Changing of the Guard|a later episode]] would prove that the espionage expert has pretty good aim even when hitching a flight.
*Blackarachnia claims that the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] started in [[1984]], when [[Mount St. Hilary]] erupted. In both the Marvel comics and the cartoon, the war had started long before the ''Ark'' even crashed and gone on without interruption. At best, the reawakening of the ''Ark'' and ''Nemesis'' crews intensified the conflict. Megatron made the same mistake in the previous episode.
*Ravage was in his cassette mode in the ship at the end of last episode, but is piloting it from the cockpit in this one. Given the nature of the former mode as essentially [[GEEWUN|fanservice]], this may not be terribly surprising.
*Surely the Maximals would have breached the Ark much faster if Optimus Primal had helped Rhinox force open the doors, seeing as he's previously demonstrated physical strength on par with or superior to Rhinox. But no, he just kinda stands back and tells Rhinox to "hurry!".
* Megatron famously refers to the G1 Megatron as his namesake, but G1 Megatron is actually his ''eponym''.

===Continuity notes===
*This episode finally reveals why Optimus has been so worried about Megatron's activities for the past few episodes; he's afraid that Megatron will use the information on the Golden Disk to find the Ark and alter history. Presumably, this is the matter of "great importance" [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] wished to speak with Optimus about at the end of "[[Maximal, No More]]".
*Blackarachnia downloaded the disk's data—along with the access codes for the ''Ark''—in "[[Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)]]".
*As the time storm starts messing with the universe, Optimus starts warping between the robot and beast modes of both his current Transmetal form and his original, organic body.

===Transformers references===
[[File:Agenda3-AutobotsonArkattack.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|At the time, these guys hadn't gotten any work in a while.]]
*Oh boy, where to start?
*First off, we have the ''Ark'' itself: the spaceship that carried the Autobots to Earth in the Generation 1 cartoons and comics. The ''Ark'' is pursued, boarded, and shot down by the Decepticon warship ''Nemesis'', another component of the Generation 1 origin story. Blackarachnia briefly retells the facts to Silverbolt, presumably for the benefit of viewers who hadn't seen the original tale.
*Blackarachnia's flashback shows the Ark launching off of ancient [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Manning the bridge of the Ark in flashback (pictured, right) are [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]], [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]], and [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]].
*The volcano the ''Ark'' crashes into is unnamed in this episode, although G1 fans will immediately recognize it as the fictional [[Mount St. Hilary]].
*As Megatron boards the ''Ark'', Optimus swears by [[Primus]].
*The ''Ark'' is protected by Teletraan-1, who also receives a name-drop in the episode.
*More G1 characters show up as Megatron makes his way through the ''Ark'''s bridge. Prowl, Jazz, and Prime reappear, along with [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], and [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]. Interestingly, Jazz and Prowl use variations of their [[Marvel Comics]] color models, appearing partially blue rather than black.
*Megatron gloats that the Autobots and Decepticons will sleep for "four million years". That was the given length of time between the crash of the ''Ark'' and the awakening of the Transformers in the original cartoon. Assuming Megatron is correct, the ''Ark'' has only very recently crashed.
*In reference to the strength of the Ark, Rattrap claims, "That ship wasn't built, it was poured!" Primal replies "Die-cast construction. It's a lost art," in homage to the original Transformer toys, which featured some [[die-cast]] parts.
*The Ark has a [[fusion cannon]] to help deter intruders, a weapon that's more famously found on Generation 1 Megatron's right arm.

===Real-world references===
*Rattrap refers to his [[alternate mode|vehicle mode]] as "Knievel mode", a reference to {{w|Evel Knievel}}.
*When Rattrap's torch goes out and he has to break through the ship with his beast mode's teeth, he calls himself the {{w|The Stainless Steel Rat|Stainless Steel Rat}}.
*During the short fight between Rhinox and Rampage, Rhinox dives through the air firing his guns in a homage to ''{{w|The Killer (1989 film)|The Killer}}''.
*As Rattrap rides the missile connected with Ravage's ship, he lets out a cowboy yell, homaging Stanley Kubrick's ''{{w|Dr. Strangelove|Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb}}''.
*Blackarachnia refers to Silverbolt as "Jo-Jo", possibly in reference to {{w|Fedor Jeftichew|Jo-Jo the Dog-Faced Boy}}.

===Trivia===
*Megatron, to no one's surprise, is perfectly willing to sacrifice most of his team to defeat the Maximals. Blackarachnia, Inferno, Quickstrike, and Rampage were all originally Maximal protoforms (or, in Rampage's case, the product of Maximal science). If his plan to destroy the Autobots and Maximals retroactively had worked, he would have been left with a team consisting of Waspinator and Tarantulas. (Tarantulas's precise origins are unclear, but he's definitely not a descendant of the Autobots.)
*In any event, Megatron's plan would seem to be {{w|Temporal paradox|temporally problematic}}, since such a drastic change could've wiped out the Predacons (and himself) just as easily as the Maximals. Small wonder he "was reluctant to follow [his] namesake's instructions" and regards it as "the ultimate risk". Megatron's ending in the ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals (N64)|Beast Wars Transmetals]]'' video game further elaborates on this, stating that with Optimus Prime dead, there would be no [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]], and, as such, nothing to [[The Transformers: The Movie|stop Unicron from destroying Cybertron]], an act that would wipe out Autobots and Decepticons. "[[A Change to the Agenda]]" would elaborate on what might have happened to the timeline if Megatron had killed Optimus... and the [[Beast Wars: Uprising|results]] aren't particularly pleasant.
*Apparently, Rhinox is afraid of heights. While sitting on Primal's hoverboard, he looks straight ahead, occasionally looking down and immediately snapping straight up with what looks like pure horror on his face.
*The word "suckers" is written on the giant missile in [[Cybertronix]].
*Bob Forward had originally intended to make Rattrap chew all the way through Ravage's ship in beast mode, rather than using a laser cutter first. In a sly remark on Madman's commentary of the episode, he states "My version would have been cheaper!"
*Nearly every Predacon suffers a somewhat ambiguous "death" scene in this episode, likely done in the event the series was not picked up for another season.
*In the script for the episode, on the 24th page, Optimus' Transmetal form is referred to as "Ultimus Primal". As of now, this is the only time that moniker has ever been used.

===Foreign localization===
'''French'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Le Programme 3'''" (Canada, "The Program 3")

'''Italian'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Il coraggio di Grifo - Parte 3'''" ("The Courage of Grifo - Part 3")

'''Japanese'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Muka~shi Mukashi'''" (むか～しむかし, "Once Upon a Time")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[December 22]] [[1999]]

'''Mandarin'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Fāngzhōu Zàixiàn '''" (方舟再现, "The Ark Reappears")

'''Portuguese'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Os Planos Parte 3'''" ("The Plans Part 3")

'''Spanish'''
:*''Title:'' "'''El Agente (Parte 3)'''" (The Agent (Part 3)")

:*''Title:'' "'''El Programa Tercera Parte'''" (America, "The Agenda Third Part")

==Home video releases==
{{homevidnote}}
;VHS
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 1998 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — Series 2 / Volume 4 ({{w|Siren Visual|Siren Entertainment}}) 
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2000 — ''Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers: Metals'' — I Do Love You! ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — Japanese audio only. 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2001 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — Volume 8 ([[Universal]])
;DVD
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2000 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers: Metals'' — DVD Box 1 (Pioneer LDC) — English and Japanese audio. 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2004 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — The Complete Second Season ([[Rhino Entertainment|Rhinomation]]) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2011 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — Seasons 2 & 3 ([[Shout! Factory]]) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2011 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — The Complete Series (Shout! Factory) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2004 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — Vol. 1 (Universal) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2006 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — Season 2 ([[Madman Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2009 — ''The Transformers: Beast Wars'' — Complete Collection (Madman Entertainment)

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== What did you even do? ==
Yeah, hey. I just happened to see that you somehow "added" something to what I added to [[Thrust_(Movie)#Transformers_.282010.29|Crash Landing Attack Thrust]], or maybe removed something, but when I look, it appears as though nothing changed. Am I blind or what? I mean, I'm asking in the sense of understanding this wiki. Oh, just to make it clear, in case I mispoke somehow, I'm not mad or upset or anything like that that you added or removed something to or from what I typed, I'm just confused on what even got changed, and why. [[User:Beetle Bug|Beetle Bug]] ([[User talk:Beetle Bug|talk]]) 04:41, 11 August 2021 (EDT)
:Fanofcoolstuff27 changed an underscore to a space in the Bumblebee link. This makes no difference in appearance or functionality, but is simply a "cleaner" form. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 05:25, 11 August 2021 (EDT)
:: Ah, I thought so, but I wasn't sure. Thanks for that info. [[User:Beetle Bug|Beetle Bug]] ([[User talk:Beetle Bug|talk]]) 05:37, 11 August 2021 (EDT)

== What was wrong with update I did? ==
Why'd you undo my update? Was there something wrong with it? If so, what exactly? [[User:Beetle Bug|Beetle Bug]] ([[User talk:Beetle Bug|talk]]) 03:58, 13 August 2021 (EDT)
:By the way, I'm talking about the one on here: https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Child_of_Primus , if there was any confusion. [[User:Beetle Bug|Beetle Bug]] ([[User talk:Beetle Bug|talk]]) 04:00, 13 August 2021 (EDT)
::You linked to Primal's toy page when it was already correctly linking to his fiction section. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 04:08, 13 August 2021 (EDT)
:::To elaborate, linking to what Primal ''did'' as part of that group in the fiction that group appeared in is infinitely more important than what toy that fiction was advertising. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 06:03, 13 August 2021 (EDT)
:::: So to make sure I got this right, the toy in question only needed to be linked to the list that's on the page, not this sentence: "Led by the legendary champion of Primus, Optimus Primal, their battles against Unicron's Minions are known as the Universe War.". Am I correct in stating that? [[User:Beetle Bug|Beetle Bug]] ([[User talk:Beetle Bug|talk]]) 06:33, 13 August 2021 (EDT)
:::::No, the list is part of the fiction write up, it has nothing to do with the toys. We do not cross toys with fiction. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 08:16, 13 August 2021 (EDT)
:::::: Then should I change the toy link update thing that I did on that list? Because I also updated the link that Optimus Primal linked too, as that toy is the same as the one in fiction. That's why I'm a tad bit confused. I mean, if the toy and the version of the Transformer in question are the same, they are generally linked like this. Well, I mean, unless I'm not paying attention to something here. Which is likely given my history. So if I'm being honest, I'm still quite confused on the issue. Well... unless..., which I'm guessing from re-reading this, that in this case the link was supposed to link to the page on the wiki that talks about his actions rather than the toy depicted in the comics. [[User:Beetle Bug|Beetle Bug]] ([[User talk:Beetle Bug|talk]]) 08:42, 13 August 2021
::::::: Which if that's the case, shouldn't it link to https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Optimus_Primal_(BW)/Beast_Wars_cartoon_continuity#3H_comics , rather than what it ''does'' ? Or am I, yet again, not understanding how this wiki works? Because I've seen stuff like this before, and have been witnessing it for a few years, and I'm still unable to tell the difference between "this is how the wiki works" vs. "this is an error that should be fixed". [[User:Beetle Bug|Beetle Bug]] ([[User talk:Beetle Bug|talk]]) 08:48, 13 August 2021 (EDT)
:I already changed it. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 17:22, 13 August 2021 (EDT)
:: Yeah, honestly I did notice that while I was typing the "should I fix it" thing. I just didn't bother changing that. Oops. Well, anyways, what about that whole "shouldn't it link to https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Optimus_Primal_(BW)/Beast_Wars_cartoon_continuity#3H_comics , rather than what it ''does'' ?" thing? Am I right with that, or no? I'm still kinda confused about that. Like I get the rest of this, just not that part, given there's quite a few Optimus Primals mentioned on that page alone. I think that it'd be a bit confusing for people to click a link, only to be like "Now which one is the one that this refers to?", and also time consuming to have to figure that out. However, I'm not sure if that's how the wiki "works", per-se. [[User:Beetle Bug|Beetle Bug]] ([[User talk:Beetle Bug|talk]]) 18:22, 13 August 2021 (EDT)

== Cultural stuff ==

I kind of figured that my addition would be removed. Do we have a page or could we have a page for cultural stuff when something like ''The Goldbergs'' references the 1986 movie? // [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] ([[User talk:Anythingspossibleforapossible|talk]]) 08:47, 10 October 2021 (EDT)
:There's an [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal#Toys used as Props|ongoing discussion]] in the Community Portal about it. Feel free to chime in! -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 12:03, 10 October 2021 (EDT)
::Thanks, I just did! // [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] ([[User talk:Anythingspossibleforapossible|talk]]) 18:05, 10 October 2021 (EDT)

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== Changing format of some older pages. ==

Hey everyone, it had been discussed earlier today on Discord that the G1 [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] page is in need of a complete revamp. Suggestions had been made to archive the original format of the page to keep the joke alive and available for those who still wish to see and admire it, while starting fresh in our standard character page format. It is nothing against the running joke per se, it mainly boils down to the rhyming starting to take its toll on the information that the page is supposed to present to readers of the wiki. I myself, before joining the wiki and even now, always avoid the page like a plague, as it is hard to navigate and actually obtain any information from, which goes against what the page is intended to do.

That doesn't mean all of the rhyming has to go, it is still welcome in the opening paragraph and image captions, but general consensus on Discord is that it could do to be more informative. I also believe that the long-running joke is starting to take its toll on editors adding any new additions while trying to keep with the rhyming format and quite frankly, I believe that to be another downfall to the article since the wiki is made to be as accessible as possible for anyone to edit and it just adds another layer of complications. I bring this up here rather than on the talk page as it has also been suggested that the same be done to G1 [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]]'s page too for the same reasons.

I advice that you please make these discussions on the individual talk pages: '''[[Talk:Wheelie (G1)]]''' and '''[[Talk:Rewind (G1)]]'''.

Feel free to bring up any other pages worth making similar changes to '''here''' as there is bound to be others that could do to be looked over too.

Thank you and Happy 2021 to all! -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 05:53, 1 January 2021 (EST)

:'''Just a quick follow up after reading back over what was said on Discord:''' We could possibly keep the pages as is and keep them as the featured articles they are currently, while having a suite with a link to a more informative version, therefore keeping the jokes and also having a variant that actually makes "sense". Funny still wins as the main page and the other can be for readers to actually learn something more about the characters. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 06:39, 1 January 2021 (EST)
::I'm for redoing both into normal prose. Save the jokes for the intro. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 12:36, 1 January 2021 (EST)

== All the human collaborators should have a page ==

The Human collaborators is the concept of [[Human]]s being allied with the [[Decepticon]]s. It exists since the beginning of the brand, brought to existence in the [[Megatron's Master Plan]] Duology from the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Transformers G1 cartoon]] and appeared for the last time in [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Transformers: Dark of the Moon]], With DOTM 10th year anniversary on the horizon, i'm thinking of creating a page for all them. In fact i'm creating a sandbox about it and i want to know if its a good idea to do that or not. --[[User:Cybertron Forever|Cybertron Forever]] ([[User talk:Cybertron Forever|talk]]) 14:21, 18 January 2021 (EST)
:Our existing "Category:Humans" is in pretty bad shape. It's divided into dozens of subcategories already so that the "main" listing is nowhere near a single comprehensive list. Instead people went and added subgroups like "Classified Humans" and "Military Humans" and many many etc. From an educational resource perspective it would probably be more useful to streamline the category we already have. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 14:41, 18 January 2021 (EST)
::Okay i'll streamline the "Category:Humans" but how am i supposed to do that? --[[User:Cybertron Forever|Cybertron Forever]] ([[User talk:Cybertron Forever|talk]]) 15:42, 18 January 2021 (EST)
:::Decepticon human collaborators have been around a lot longer than just season 2 of G1. [[Doctor Arkeville]] was actually the first Decepticon ally. Even then, characters collaborating with Decepticons had been around in the years in between G1 and DOTM. the Marvel G1 comics, Dreamwave comics, IDW comics and such, more than likely had a lot of instances where that was a thing too (I'm not too familiar with a lot of those comics). ''Animated'' had some of the human villains working with the Decepticons on some occassions too.

:::As for the human collaborators page, I don't feel that a separate page needs to be made, there was never a collective group or organization of them, just occassional cases of random people being told what to do while more or less being held at gun point, or on some occassions, given the sweet promise of world domination. I think if anything, Thylacine's idea of making a subcategory would probably be your best bet, but a better name would be "Decepticon allied humans" or something. As far as I'm aware, there is no page for Autobot allied humans (which there are crap tons of), so there is really no point in making one for the Decepticon allies. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 18:10, 18 January 2021 (EST)
:::: It most certainly is not "my idea to make a new subcategory." We have too many subcategories already. Most of them are dumb and are at the expense of having a useful, comprehensive Human category.--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 21:09, 18 January 2021 (EST)

:There really is little to no point to a page for this concept; a category will do. That'd just be opening up for countless list-pages of random Things People In Fiction Sometimes Do, and this wiki is historically not keen on list pages. There's a lot of stuff characters do/are that don't have pages just because the concept is too vague, too broad, or too obvious that a page would not actually provide any new information (or comedy potential) on how its use within ''Transformers'' fiction is different from the immediately obvious. There's no page for "ninjas" (that just links to the Category), but "Cyber-Ninja Corps", a very specifically-defined group of ninjas, does get a page.
:And... look, not to sound mean, but... if you have no idea how a big major overhauling project might be done, maybe you should leave that task to someone else. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 18:40, 18 January 2021 (EST)

:Besides "bad guys" like Shawn Berger or Doctor Arkeville, does Spike count when he went nuts as Autobot Spike and used Megatron to fire on the Autobots? Or do [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]] and [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike]] count when the Autobots had a truce with the Decepticons against a [[Dark Star|cosmically-powered Starscream]]? Or take [[Skywarp (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Skywarp]]: he joined G.I.Joe and worked with them. Does that make all of G.I. Joe human collaborators? I hope not. If someone has to think this hard about who actually belongs to a category, it will actually clutter up the wiki instead of clarify relationships. Everything that ''could'' be grouped doesn't necessarily benefit from a page or category. It may be worth noting briefly ''on individual character pages'' about some characters' tendencies to work with Decepticons. [[User:Prime Radiant|Prime Radiant]] ([[User talk:Prime Radiant|talk]]) 19:31, 18 January 2021 (EST)

:Okay it seems a page won't really be necessary, so i won't do it. But i'm until now trying to know how am i supposed to streamline the "Category:humans"? --[[User:Cybertron Forever|Cybertron Forever]] ([[User talk:Cybertron Forever|talk]]) 22:37, 18 January 2021 (EST)
::Coming up with the answer to your question is the bulk of the task itself. It's a lot of work and there's no immediately obvious and clear approach. If you'd like to try something, use a sandbox and communicate with us here. If you need a lot of guidance, it's best to leave it to someone else like Sipher said. [[User:Prime Radiant|Prime Radiant]] ([[User talk:Prime Radiant|talk]]) 22:14, 19 January 2021 (EST)

::I think i'll create a category called "Human Collaborators", but only after the "Category:humans" is streamlined, which is something someone must do here since i don't know how to do this and by doing so will help this wiki a lot. --[[User:Cybertron Forever|Cybertron Forever]] ([[User talk:Cybertron Forever|talk]]) 19:56, 21 January 2021 (EST)
:::I honestly think that is the ''opposite'' of what we need. The first thing to be done after streamlining should not be the addition of more subcategories. The point has been made that there are too many human subcategories already, and I agree. You seem very intent on specifically adding information about Decepticon-allied humans. Keep in mind that this is not an official faction. This is effectively like creating a category about "Humans With Yellow Boots and Blue Pants and Hard Hats". Yes, that group exists, but unless it's very funny, we don't need it. Going forward, I recommend focusing on contributing to what the wiki lacks (say, by adding information on our pages with stubs) instead of searching for differences without distinction. [[User:Prime Radiant|Prime Radiant]] ([[User talk:Prime Radiant|talk]]) 21:04, 21 January 2021 (EST)

== Finishing the "Story sections" in the Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (PS2/Wii) and (PSP) pages. ==

The story of the PSP and PS2/Wii versions of Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen video game must be concluded and i wanted to do this myself, but i'm having difficulties due to my family and i making preparations to move out. So the question is: Can someone insert the synopsis of the remaining chapters of each version of the game here? Because if you can it will help this wiki a lot. --[[User:Cybertron Forever|Cybertron Forever]] ([[User talk:Cybertron Forever|talk]]) 15:25, 31 January 2021 (EST)
: That is entirely contingent on whether or not any of the regular contributors own the game or a system to play it on. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 21:07, 31 January 2021 (EST)

What's the matter? can't someone see it on Youtube and then write what they've saw on the articles? Because that's how i got the information about the story of the games i insert here. In fact that's how i got the necessary info to create the [[Quest for Optimus Prime]] and [[MechTech Wars]] online games and to insert the story of [[Transformers: Shadows Rising]]. --[[User:Cybertron Forever|Cybertron Forever]] ([[User talk:Cybertron Forever|talk]]) 21:14, 31 January 2021 (EST)
:You know, petulantly whining at other people to do work there is absolutely no rush on, on a site done on a volunteer basis, doesn't really get any of it done faster. Tends to ''dis''incentivize people to do it, actually. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 01:42, 1 February 2021 (EST)
::The pages have been stubs for this long, I doubt having them being left a little longer will hurt anyone. They're bound to still be there once you're done moving and have more free time on your hands. There's no rush. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 07:33, 1 February 2021 (EST)

== Micro-Sized ==

Hey all, was wondering if we should make a page/archive for the Mini-Con/Micro-Sized profiles from the Collectors' Club website and magazine?

They seem to be rather important pieces of fiction for a lot of those Mini-Cons and I feel we should have some form of proper write ups or a proper link to archives of the profiles themselves at the very least. Half the character pages have the profiles summed up in brief opening paragraphs but some people (me included) may want to read some of the online profiles which the Collectors' Club website doesn't appear to have anymore.

Just an idea I thought might be interesting to look into. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 20:04, 31 January 2021 (EST)

:Yeah, but... is it legal for us to archive that material? I honestly don't know what the current status is of fiction produced under FP (or 3H, for that matter). Does Hasbro "own" it? Does Brian Savage? Does anybody? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] ([[User talk:Hooper X|talk]]) 12:48, 24 February 2021 (EST)
::Fun Publications produced that material under license from Hasbro and TakaraTomy. I assume Hasbro owns it just as they enable their current comic partner IDW to reprint Marvel and Dreamwave material. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 12:57, 24 February 2021 (EST)

== New signups temporarily suspended ==

New signups have been temporarily suspended due to excessive vandalism. Apologies for the inconvenience. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 04:04, 28 February 2021 (EST)
:And now they should be back on. Thank you for your patience. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:46, 7 March 2021 (EST)

== Reducing negative ''Energon'' episode notes. ==

Alrighty, since the wiki has been taking a pretty neutral approach to things over recent years and we had already decided on reducing excessive sarcasm and negativity to the ''Energon'' cartoon page, I feel the episode pages should probably follow suit.

I'm just started my annual rewatch of the show and I'm going to add, subtract and alter things like I did in the ''Armada'' episode pages after each watch. I'm already making a start on removing pieces of sarcasm listed as "trivia" that ''really'' doesn't need to be highlighted and is only there for the sake of bashing the show.

That being said, errors, plotholes, continuity issues etc. are fine, but the "pain count" sections probably should either be removed or be relabelled as "stock phrase count" or something along those lines. I'm personally still alright with the caption jokes and quote jokes, but the excessive "This character sucks because the show sucks." is definitely a no go.

After a disscussion on Discord, it had also been suggested that we list common stock phrases from the Unicron Trilogy on a separate page much like we do for [[Furmanism]]s. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 03:25, 2 March 2021 (EST)
:Before anyone goes to the trouble of creating an entire "Energonisms" page, it is worth examining whether the series is well-known or well-liked enough for that to be worthwhile. Furman wrote hundreds of comics & scripts across multiple series and about 25 years; his repeat phrases are more noticeable and important. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 07:36, 2 March 2021 (EST)
::I still disagree with the concept of "Furmanisms". They're just pulpy phrasing. It's hardly unique to him. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 09:14, 2 March 2021 (EST)
:::I'll be honest, the Furmanisms page is filled with rather common oldschool comicbook phrases that aren't ''really'' unique to him or ''Transformers'' for that matter. You can almost guarantee that those phrases have been used in even older comics from the 60s, like ''X-Men'' for example. Hell, they've possibly been used in material even older than that. I generally stay clear of anything that makes references to that page, because it is full of blurred lines. Perhaps this should also be a topic for discussion. In terms of Energonisms, I personally don't agree with it either, but I thought I better bring it up for those who aren't on Discord.
:::My main concern right now is whether we should remove the "pain count" sections from the episode pages. As I've been binging the show and updating episode info, I've been working around them, but they still hold a heavy tone of negativity while everything else around them has been altered to the neutral tone. I've tried to think of a better title to use in its place, but the further through the episode pages I go, the more excessively negative it seems to get. Yes there are a ''lot'' of stock phrases used, but if people start to include other ones that haven't already been listed—and there are quite a few—pretty soon we're gonna end up with entire dub scripts for the episodes listed lol. As for stock footage counts, it's common in practically every Japanese ''Transformers'' series (From BWII onwards at the very least), so listing them is just another example of adding things to bash the show. Our [[Transformers Wiki:Captions#Captions and jokes we're sick of|captions/jokes policies]] also state that ''Energon'' jokes are pretty much frowned upon by today's wiki standards.
:::As I am writing this post, it has also occured to me that ''Cybertron''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s episode pages have pain counts that follow the same outline too (listing stock phrases and stock footage), so perhaps we should look into removing those for the same reasons. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 06:11, 5 March 2021 (EST)
::::I feel it should be pointed out that many of the stock phrases from Energon ("Uh...", "Huh?" "Let's do it!", "Wait up!" etc.) were first used by the same dubbing team back in Armada. If any new page is going to be created for those phrases, it's only fair that those from Armada (and probably from Cybertron too) be included since those phrases are not exclusive to Energon even if it's in that show that they're the worst offender. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 09:58, 5 March 2021 (EST)
:::::I agree with removing the pain counts and overall negativity from the UT-related pages, while I disagree with creating the "Energonisms" page because that would neuter our efforts to remove said negativity. I also never cared for Furmanisms so I don't even see a reason for that page to still exist tbh. [[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 13:11, 5 March 2021 (EST)
::::::I don't think there's a need for Energonisms, but I think Furmanisms need to stay based solely on the fact that they're a known factor and both Furman and other creators have leaned into their existence in self-referential and parodical ways, enough that it makes sense to have a page explaining them. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 13:34, 5 March 2021 (EST)
:::::::It's funny you say that, Fritz. ''Armada'' was the first place to use the stock phrases, yet the episode pages were absent of any pain counts or any real negativity in general. As for ''Cybertron'', listing the pain counts on those pages seems to hold the same weight as the negativity I pruned down on the main ''Armada'' page a couple of weeks ago. They seem to be an outdated case of critisms that were made when the show first came out. In my experience, ''Cybertron'', while still not perfect, still remains the pretty widely enjoyed out of the three shows among the Facebook groups and stuff I've been in.

:::::::At the end of the day, I don't feel it's really the wiki's place to tell people how to feel towards something. It's one thing to mention issues and critisms, but when you're pushing personal opinions onto the reader, making them steer clear of the show entirely instead of letting them form their own opinions, it doesn't really help keep the history of the brand we're supposed to be documenting alive. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 15:28, 5 March 2021 (EST)
::::::::The keyword there is "outdated." Energon is from 2003 and the "pain count" stuff was probably all written in 2007 or so. In 2021 no one is creating canon with ironic joking references to a hypothetical Energonism, and even if they did, the whole source of complaint is that the dialogue is so interchangeable and empty that if someone were to say it in a future series it would probably just be seen as unrelated new bad dialogue. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 15:44, 5 March 2021 (EST)
:::::::::So I guess we're all pretty much on the same page here then. From the response I got on Discord a few days ago and the repsonse here, it seems pretty clear that the "Pain counts" should go. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 16:11, 5 March 2021 (EST)
::::::::::Totally agree with you there, Fanofcoolstuff27. I watched ''Energon'' and ''Cybertron'' for the first time just last year and actually enjoyed the latter a lot. At the time I felt that the pain counts were harming my own enjoyment of reading the wiki after watching each episode and I even consider removing them by myself. So I'm glad this is finally up for debate and other people are agreeing on getting rid of them. --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 16:27, 5 March 2021 (EST)
I think this kind of went off on a big digression about "Energonisms" and personal liking of the series, but I think this is enough consensus to reduce the negativity of the Energon articles. (The episodes could use better summaries as well.) [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:35, 5 March 2021 (EST)
:The pain counts can go, but I'm 100% against removing the overal tone of negativity. Like it or not, Energon is a dull show with an objectively mediocre dub, and consistently remains the most disliked of any televised Transformers cartoon. To try and soften that in the Energon articles almost feels like a disservice to 20 years of near-universal fan rejection. (And the reason we say not to make Energon jokes on the caption page was because they were getting excessive across the whole wiki. That said, while other pages shouldn't be saddled with such jokes, there's no reason to sugarcoat things on the Energon articles themselves.) -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 16:41, 5 March 2021 (EST)
::Agreed, and definitely on that last point. Energon is garbage in any language, and I feel we do a disservice to act like it's not a rushed, cheap, ugly job by the lowest bidder that runs out of plot halfway through its episode count and has to start over even BEFORE you take into account the first-draft English dub. And yes, the captions page remark about it and many other objects of derision is mostly about the ''unoriginality'' and ''over-use'' of adding ''new'' joke captions about it, not "it's wrong". --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:35, 5 March 2021 (EST)
:::See, my issue here isn't neccessarily the negativity itself, more the overuse of it. I've already taken it upon myself to remove silly pieces of "trivia" that aren't trivia at all and are more just an attempt to bash a bad show. You can mention all of it's flaws and whatever, there is no problem with that. It's the constant nitpickiness that is added, when just about ''every'' Transformers show has more or less the ''exact'' same issues. The line between openly pointing out issues in one show and turning a blind eye to those same issues in other shows is ''very'' blurred.

:::Given our recent response on Discord towards the removal of "Pain counts" from the Energon episode pages, perhaps we could at least settle with a mid-ground compromise. My proposal: The removal of stock footage from the counts. It's not exclusive to Energon at all, so listing them as a ''bad'' thing builds a pretty poor case. Yeah, there is a ''lot'' of stock footage use, but the show is to sell Transformers toys, so highlighting the brand's main attraction is hardly a crime. BWII, BWN, RID/Car Robots, Robot Masters, Armada/Legends of the Microns, Energon/Super Link, Cybertron/Galaxy Force, Animated, Go!, RID 2015 and I wanna say Cyberverse (?) are all guilty of using stock footage. Only about three of them are English-speaking original shows, while the rest of them are Japanese shows. It's practically been a tradition to include stock footage transformations and combinations at this point. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 18:31, 5 March 2021 (EST)

== Voice actor categorization ==

I really don't like the idea of putting voice actors into company categories based on shows or games they've appeared in (see [[:Category:Activision]] or [[:Category:DreamWorks]] for example). This seems a little disingenuous, considering that none of these are employees of these companies, but rather freelance. Furthermore, this doesn't include all the different shows' production companies, but rather more like picking and choosing at random. If you were to categorize them at all, I would either do so based on the studio the series was recorded at (such as Voicebox or Studiopolis) or make new "(show) voice cast" categories. (But honestly, my first choice would be to not do so at all.) -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 00:17, 6 March 2021 (EST)
:How about we create nested categories such as "Category:Activision freelancers"? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 01:34, 22 March 2021 (EDT)
::"Category:Activision voice actors"? Maybe something similar with other videogames or tv series'/movies? "Category:____ voice actors". [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 02:39, 22 March 2021 (EDT)

== Energon Terrorcons ==

I'm having issues with the way we have the ''Energon'' Terrorcon pages currently set up. The pages have a lot of misinformation being spread within them and between them and I'm not entirely sure how we should handle it.

The show presents three different colour variants/breeds/races of flying Terrorcon: Divebomb, a "Stealth Divebomb" (which is the Command Ravage colour palette placed on Divebomb), and the Shadowhawk Cosmo Type/Blackout colour scheme. I've just gone and removed the stealth colour scheme write ups from Blackout's page as they are clearly not the same thing and it would fall under potential citogenesis.

My proposal for this issue would be to move "Blackout (Terrorcon)" to "Shadowhawk Cosmo Type" and just make mention of the Energon dubs' cock up with the names as a note or that an individual Terrorcon named "Blackout" is also among them. Much like "Command Ravage", "Shadowhawk Cosmo Type" is also an official name and it's my understanding that if Hasbro names aren't available, we generally opt for the Takara names instead (e.g. [[Mirror]]), and because "Blackout" is referred to as an individual rather than a race/breed, it would be hard to use that as an offical English-language designation. I also don't feel that there would be enough to warrant an individual Shadowhawk Cosmo Type page and a Blackout page, as they'd contain most of the same information.

Secondly, I'm wondering if the stealth decoed Divebombs warrant their own page under a nickname title? e.g. [[Watchdog (G1)]]. They are clearly a different breed to the two aforementioned races and with the Command Ravages being present alongside them, it only seems fair to mark them on a separate page too. If others agree, I was thinking maybe "Stealth Divebomb" or something, as the title—unless ''Super Link'' has a better term used in the episode?

Thirdly, and the least important of noting on this list of issues: The Planet Q natives featured in the flashback (before the planet was destroyed) use both the Shadowhawk Cosmo Type model and a recoloured version of the Battle Ravage model in the same colours. Do these Battle Ravage redecos warrant a page or is a note on the respective mold pages enough for them?

Thank Primus that the Insecticons and Cruellocks don't suffer from this issue of multiple breeds/repaints presented on-screen.

Let me know what you think. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 05:49, 10 March 2021 (EST)

:I would make a "Shadowhawk Cosmo Type" article for that color scheme in general, but keep the Blackout article for that specific individual. All of the other weird color schemes like "Shadowhawk Desert Type" could just go on the regular article, with notes pointing out their existence. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:35, 10 March 2021 (EST)

::Sounds like a plan. I'll get a sandbox started for the Cosmo Type Terrorcons. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 15:44, 10 March 2021 (EST)

== Excessively long toy pages ==

Let's face it. A few pages such as "[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys]]" and "[[Megatron (G1)/toys]]" have become so long that they can slow down a device just to be loaded. Will we allow indefinite expansion such that page scrolling time will balloon further? We need to do some kind of split that will set up a second page for many years to come. Some months back, there was a discussion on the Discord server suggesting the start of ''Generations'' in 2010 as a useful dividing boundary. Thoughts? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:38, 13 March 2021 (EST)
:I agree with the split from ''Generations''. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 17:36, 13 March 2021 (EST)
::If no one is against this split, I might make a start on it now because I was editing the G1 Prime page before and I was worried it was going to make Chrome crash with how long it was taking just to load the previews for my edits. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 07:22, 14 April 2021 (EDT)
:Regarding Megatron, I propose splitting out all non-transforming gun mode accessories that were available with other figures into their own page. There are a ''lot'' of those, and they don't need to clutter up a page along with the transforming figures.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore|talk]]) 07:59, 30 May 2021 (EDT)

== Template:quote and Template:bigquote ==

Why do we have both of these? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 07:39, 16 March 2021 (EDT)

:the big one looks much better and less confusing. i suggest getting rid of the normal one. --[[User:GobotsFanForever|GobotsFanForever]] ([[User talk:GobotsFanForever|talk]]) 07:48, 16 March 2021 (EDT)
:While I find the big one hideously obnoxious and would suggest getting rid of it.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 11:32, 16 March 2021 (EDT)
:sorry, it turns out that for some reason, the normal quotes were not showing up properly on my computer. but now they are. now the big quotes do seem kinda unnecessary. --[[User:GobotsFanForever|GobotsFanForever]] ([[User talk:GobotsFanForever|talk]]) 21:11, 16 March 2021 (EDT)

== Merge or not to merge the ROTF toyline and N.E.S.T. Global Alliance pages. ==

I think we should merge the [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|ROTF toyline]] and the N.E.S.T. Global Alliance pages, since they're both from the [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]] movie, along with the fact that some toys from that [[subline imprint]] are in the ROTF page. Besides, the reason why users here want their pages to be merged is the same from the [[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]] and The Unicron Battles, which by the time of this talk, they're already merged. --[[User:Cybertron Forever|Cybertron Forever]] ([[User talk: Cybertron Forever|talk]]) 16:52 18 March 2021 (EST)
:I'm down with that. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 02:40, 22 March 2021 (EDT)

==All those Takara BW-era-ish named weapon pages==
So this caught my eye... we have a buncha pages for the various named weapons from the BW2/Neo-era toys, and... do we need them at all? Do these pages actually contain enough unique information to justify them? I mean, we got individual pages for Archadis's "[[Wing Gundread]]s", "[[Wing Bomb]]s" and "[[Founder Shot]]", and not a one of them has anything that the actual Archadis page doesn't cover. Seems like most of these don't have any special effects like the "torque rifle" or "electro-scrambler" and such; it makes more sense to have those pages since the special effects are all right there without having to sift through non-weapon info, which feels like a good resource for writing purposes to see how these special weapons were used. But if they're all just normal old blasters and swords and whatnot, the individual pages are basically just severely chainsawed versions of the character pages. Feels kind of pointless and wasteful of the reader's time to point them at these pages. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:27, 30 March 2021 (EDT)
:After going through it all, I'm starting to think this is a valid point. Half of these weapons wouldn't even have enough information to fill a page to be quite honest—and that's after filling the fiction stubs too. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 08:24, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

==New Molds are Not News==
It quickly gets repetitive for toy entries to say such-and-such is a new mold. I think we should have "new mold" be the default, unsaid expectation, instead pointing out when toys are retools / redecos. "Actually a new mold" should be saved for occasions when something looks or is widely perceived to be a remold but actually isn't (i.e. Smokejumper / Energon Starscream). --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 16:03, 7 April 2021 (EDT)
:Agreed.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 16:58, 7 April 2021 (EDT)
::Agreed. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 17:54, 7 April 2021 (EDT)

== Impending upgrade ==

My intention is to attempt an upgrade of the wiki's core software tomorrow. It is not going to be a large jump in versions, so I don't anticipate it will break anything, but you never know. I'll post again here closer to the time. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 05:17, 23 April 2021 (EDT)
:In, let's say, around about three hours. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:16, 24 April 2021 (EDT)
::Ten minute warning! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 02:49, 24 April 2021 (EDT)
All done. Please go about your business. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 03:20, 24 April 2021 (EDT)

== Change to combiner team member lists? ==

Inspired by some comments Chris was pointing out from his new Aerialbot video, I was thinking about how we could better contextualise the various extra/alternate members most combiner teams have wound up with over the years, rather than simply putting them all in a plain list that can, for instance, wrongfully give the impression that Balloon is a noteworthy Aerialbot and not a literal joke. Put together a sandbox to show what I was thinking: [[User:Jalaguy/Sandbox/Aerialbot]] - thoughts? I think this is one of those occasions - like Unicron's history and stuff - where going out-of-universe for a bit is the best way of communicating important context to the reader. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 12:15, 24 April 2021 (EDT)

== Request and code review for adding JS-based tabbed tables ==

A few of us were inspired by the tabbed tables on other wikis. For example, [https://www.khwiki.com/Xehanort the Kingdom Hearts wiki], a main character has tables that contain "Profile" and "Journal" tabs. This request is strictly about tabs, not general infoboxes. I pulled the relevant JS and CSS and created a [[Template:Tab]], and added the custom JS and CSS to my user page, and things seem fine. The tabifier only relies on jQuery, so we don't need to add anything extra. I have videos of the behavior on our Discord too.

Would it be possible for an admin (abates?) to review the proposed additions, and if approved, merge them into the page load?
:JS: https://github.com/tf-wiki-discord/wiki-utils/blob/main/tabber.js
:CSS: https://github.com/tf-wiki-discord/wiki-utils/blob/main/tabber.css

Thanks for reviewing/considering! [[User:Prime Radiant|Prime Radiant]] ([[User talk:Prime Radiant|talk]]) 13:22, 29 April 2021 (EDT)
:What's the intention to use tabs for? My main reservation would be with user experience. E.G. putting stuff behind a tab hides it from a browser search, so if a user googles a term and ends up on a page where the mention of that term is hidden behind a tab, they might not be able to find it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:57, 29 April 2021 (EDT)

::One intended use-case would be supplementary. For most Transformers, I can imagine a "tabbed mainpic", one tab being bot mode and the other being the alt mode. I'm thinking particularly about a ''[[The Transformers Universe|Transformers Universe]]'' or Dreamwave's ''[[Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More Than Meets the Eye]]'', where bot mode and alt mode are viewable together as a single visual unit. And this is extendable to triple- or multi-changers, or can be ignored for Action Masters. This use is not restricted to mainpic use either. I don't think images of alt modes being hidden behind a tab is worse than things are now. [[User:Saix|Saix]] and [[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] may want to weigh in here. [[User:Prime Radiant|Prime Radiant]] ([[User talk:Prime Radiant|talk]]) 19:42, 29 April 2021 (EDT)

:::This is essentially a prelude to a more specific policy proposal once we get the machinery up and running and start working with it but I believe this concept of a "tabbed image" to display all modes of a character model, toy, etc without compromising readability to be perhaps the most potent utility of this technology. -[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 20:25, 29 April 2021 (EDT)

::::I can see this possibly being useful for toys that end up with multiple modes used within fiction like any of the ''Legends'' and ''Generations Selects'' characters with canonized "fan-modes" that get a little crazy to document in a single image or maybe having the Hasbro and Takara variants in a tabbed system?

::::The only thing I find that could potentially go wrong using a tab system at the top of an article for robot and alt modes, is the fact that G1 characters (as an example)—especially in the JG1 fiction—have been through multiple bodies with multiple vehicle modes. Even G1 Prime hasn't been the same exact flat-nosed cab for the 35+ years between American continuities. So this still kinda falls under the whole "prioritizing one thing over the rest" argument that the info box discussion created on Discord. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 20:42, 29 April 2021 (EDT)

:::::I don't want to get too ahead of ourselves on the specifics of implementation at this juncture but I will say we've gone round on the philosophy of potential "alt mode mainpics" a bit on the Discord and I believe it would be important to emphasize consistency with the character model selected for the bot mode mainpic as opposed to getting lost in the weeds of a character's "one true alt mode" or what have you. -[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 21:29, 29 April 2021 (EDT)

== New bot account on site ==
I wanted to give a heads up that we have a new bot account on the site: [[User:FuncGammaBot]]. This account is owned by the developer of the WikiClientLibrary library that [[User:Teletraan-X]] uses for logging in to the site. The developer asked to use us for testing his code against MediaWiki 1.19 because Fandom no longer has a 1.19 site for them to test against. I consulted with abates and since he had no issues with the developer using us for unit tests, I let them know it was okay. Unit tests are automated code tests that are run to make sure that: A. a new code fix works and B. that said new code fix doesn't break something else. This testing will allow the library to continue workinga and thus Teletraan-X to continue working while on TFWiki is on version 1.19. The account will only be interacting with it's own sandbox and not making any edits to actual content pages or the like. I wanted to let everyone know so they aren't wondering what this weird account is doing only editing sandbox pages. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28|talk]]) 15:46, 17 May 2021 (EDT)

== Establishing gallery pages for characters ==

So it seems we (and creators) have run into problems with poor references (especially regarding alternate modes) and there's the simple fact that there's a huge lack of ''any'' central resource for official ''Transformers'' renders and art (aka assets)—especially for older media like ''Beast Machines''. In that regard, I'm proposing we create gallery pages for at least characters with multiple bodies and incarnations and also serve as a repository for art. I've created [[User:Saix/Megatron (BW)/gallery|an example for Beast Megatron]] that I hope will illustrate what I imagine those galleries to look like. Any thoughts or concerns about this? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 17:33, 27 May 2021 (EDT)

== Technically correct but needlessly vague section headers, unhelpful "fiction first" format ==

I stumbled across this on the [[Cyclonus's Armada]] page. For reasons unknown to me, the section that covers how Marvel's comic adaptation of the 1986 animated movie handled Cyclonus and "his Armada" is placed under the not-so-obvious header "Marvel future timelines", with a storylink leading to "Judgment Day!", which I have to click in order to find out that it's actually not a UK future timeline story, but the comic adaptation of the movie. This is not helpful. Especially when there's currently still a deeplink further down in the "Origins" section that links to a now-defunct "Marvel The Transformers: The Movie comic adaptation" section.

Also, I feel like the "Cyclonus's Armada" section is suffering from the "fiction first, real life background information later" format. In cases where the subject of a page is a major conundrum that's more notable for the mystery surrounding it than for its fictional portrayal itself, I propose we should ingore the standard and put the background information above the fiction sections in order to make those pages more accessible to casual readers I'm not sure yet if that should be applied to [[Swerve (Chevy)]] as well.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore|talk]]) 08:30, 30 May 2021 (EDT)

[[Krunix (G1)]] might also benefit from an "explanation first" format. Not quite sure yet regarding [[Mister Johnson]].--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore|talk]]) 08:53, 30 May 2021 (EDT)

== Repurpose notes ==

Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to add a bit to the repurposed toys note to identify where this happened? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 10:09, 9 June 2021 (EDT)
:That is a logical course of action. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 04:26, 18 June 2021 (EDT)

== Beast Era parentheticals ==

As already discussed here on [[Talk:Silverbolt (G1)#Earth Wars BW Silverbolt IS NOT G1 SILVERBOLT|jetliner Silverbolt's talk page]], ''Earth Wars'' has clarified the need to reestablish the original Magnaboss toy trio as their own individuals with separate pages. For some consistency, what is our take on how the parentheticals will work out when Fuzors and Transmetals have not appeared outside the ''Beast Wars'' franchise?

Is this preferable? 
Silverbolt (G1), Silverbolt (BW eagle), Silverbolt (BW Fuzor), Prowl (G1), Prowl (BW lion), Prowl (BW Transmetal 2)

Or is this preferable? 
Silverbolt (G1), Silverbolt (BW eagle), Silverbolt (Fuzor), Prowl (G1), Prowl (BW lion), Prowl (Transmetal 2)

Should the Fuzor and owl still have "BW"? I point out that such labelling does serve as a handy signal for readers as to which franchise a wiki URL belongs. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 19:20, 12 June 2021 (EDT)
:"(BW Transmetal 2)" is definitely too long. In Owl Prowl's case, he either ought to stay at "Prowl II" (due to the complications of his past, or in consistency with Transmetal 2 Dinobot similarly being at "Dinobot II"), or be moved to either "Prowl (BW owl)", "Prowl (BW TM2)", or just "Prowl (TM2)". Of those choices, I'm leaning towards either "Prowl (BW owl)" since it would be consistent with "Prowl (BW lion), or "Prowl (TM2)" since Transmetals 2 are still just a BW-only thing. The latter would also enable the lion to be as "Prowl (BW)", unless that's too misleading since he isn't the only BW Prowl, in which case "(BW lion)" and "(BW owl)" would be the most concise.
:As for the Silverbolts, I've given my piece about them, but for a recap, I'm for "Silverbolt (BW eagle)" and "Silverbolt (BW Fuzor)", with "Silverbolt (BW)" redirected to the latter. While the Fuzor is unquestionably the more prominent of the two, the eagle came first and was, for a whole year, the only BW Silverbolt in existence at the time. He has every right to the "(BW)" tag just as much as the Fuzor does. Keeping "(BW)" in the title of both makes it immediately clear that both are BW-original characters without ever having to read the article.
:Frankly, I am not a fan of "(Magnaboss)" as a tag since, to the uninformed, "Silverbolt (Magnaboss)" and "Prowl (Magnaboss)" make it look like we're saying that this Silverbolt and this Prowl are each "a Magnaboss", which is misleading for anyone who doesn't know who or what Magnaboss is. Sure, it only takes a second to read their articles, but "(BW eagle)" and (BW lion) are more direct and to the point, instantly getting the message across that they both originated from BW.
:And if the eagle gets to keep "BW" in its tag, then certainly the Fuzor should as well since, as mentioned, he is the more prominent of the two BW Silverbolts and shouldn't be forced to lose his "BW" to the eagle, even if the eagle has just as much right to it. Ergo, they both can share. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 00:51, 13 June 2021 (EDT)
I vote for the first option except for Prowl the Owl, who I think works best as Prowl (BW Owl).
[[User:MrRald|MrRald]] ([[User talk:MrRald|talk]]) 01:34, 13 June 2021 (EDT)
:I'm personally thinking "Prowl (BW)", "Prowl (TM2)", "Silverbolt (eagle)" and "Silverbolt (Fuzor)". To me it just needlessly over complicates things by having "(BW eagle)" and "(BW Fuzor)" because we don't go "[[Swerve (Universe)|Swerve (Universe -insert whatever specifics here-)]]" and "[[Swerve (Chevy)|Swerve (Universe Chevy)]]", we try to keep the character page titles as short and sweet as possible. With that, I'd also propose that we move "Dinobot II" to "Dinobot (TM2)" because I don't recall him ever being referred to by that name in the cartoon and it certainly wasn't the name given to the toy. As far as I can tell that was just something the sourcebook added to differentiate between multiple characters with the same name (e.g. Magnaboss II and Silverbolt II). We've also tried to move away from those sourcebook naming conventions due to a lot of them being incorrect or misleading in the wider scheme of things, especially for the Japanese characters. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 01:48, 13 June 2021 (EDT)
::TM2 Dinobot was referred to as "Dinobot 2" in the Dreamwave Summer Special and as "Dinobot II" in Beast Wars Sourcebook. It's not a thing we made up. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 08:14, 18 June 2021 (EDT)
:I continue to be opposed to inventing "compound tags" that aren't canonical terms. "Magnaboss" is a canonical term, just as much as "Stunticon," and I don't think it's so confusing to potential readers seeing it that they wouldn't think to click the link and understand just how it was possible. My votes: Silverbolt (G1), Silverbolt (Magnaboss), Prowl (Magnaboss), Prowl (TM2), Silverbolt (Fuzor). --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 10:51, 14 June 2021 (EDT)
::As I had just stated on [[Talk:Silver Bolt]] and [[Talk:Prowl (Magnaboss)]], I'm actually in favour of using the "(Magnaboss)" parentheticals for all three of the Magnaboss components, after seeing how it looks as an actual page title. It unifies them and is simple and the most effective imo. I am still 100% against using the animal alt-modes in the titles as it just looks unprofessional and made up, as Thylacine had more or less pointed out. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 05:38, 18 June 2021 (EDT)
:::If we ''really'' have to, we could always make it "(BW Magnaboss)" as a happy medium. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 05:42, 18 June 2021 (EDT)
::::That's redundant. "Magnaboss" is simple and straight to the point. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 10:09, 18 June 2021 (EDT)

== Rethinking Shattered Glass as a franchise/continuity family ==

Between the “Shards” mini-series, the new Generations Selects toys, and an increasing amount of high end collector statues, it seems like the concept of a ''Transformers'' mirror universe isn’t going away any time soon. All mirrorverse fiction since the original comic has latched onto the title “Shattered Glass”, even when that name hasn’t been applied to that particular fiction, creating “ghost” franchises like “Shattered Glass ''Animated''” and “Shattered Glass ''Movie''”. Given that these have no bearing on actual franchises – there’s no “real” “Shattered Glass ''Cybertron''”, for example – I’m proposing that we treat “Shattered Glass” as less of a series of franchises and more as one big continuity family.

It’s true that:

a) continuity families are a fake idea made up by the wiki to allow for easier organisation

b) big concepts that span numerous franchises go on one article, e.g. [[Autobot]], [[Decepticon]], [[Cybertron (planet)]]

c) sometimes two characters from different continuity families share a page when they are either straight up the same guy ([[Side Burn (RID)]], [[Sky-Byte (RID)]]), or when their appearance is so negligible that it’s barely worth splitting them ([[Buckshot]], [[Reachout (TF 2010)]])

Given the above, I propose that all of “Shattered Glass” be treated as one continuity family, with subheadings for G1 (the club fiction, “Expectations”, “Recordicons”, SD SG, “Shards”), ''Animated'' (lithographs, bios), ''Movie'' (''Forged to Fight'', high-end statues/merchandise), and whatever other mirror universes are concerned. Character articles should be moved to (SG) namespaces and merged where appropriate.

I’ve whipped up a rough concept for Optimus Prime in my [[User:TheLastGherkin/Sandbox:Shat|sandbox]]. Let me know what you think of this idea below or on the Discord server. [[User:TheLastGherkin|TheLastGherkin]] ([[User talk:TheLastGherkin|talk]]) 07:29, 14 June 2021 (EDT)
: Absolutely against this. It might be fine for Prime, but there is nothing linking SG Goldbug with SG Animated Bumblebee, for example. We can stand having a few smaller articles, not everything should be merged. We aren't Wikipedia, and I don't want to see this implemented. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 09:54, 14 June 2021 (EDT)
::I kinda like this idea, ''but'' I can also see where this could get ''very'' complicated, ''very'' fast, it's definitely not a "one size fits all" type of solution, as Escargon has stated. If nothing else, I think a continuity family page for SG (if we don't already have one) would be a good idea to have the concept laid out in the one place, since it has been used all across the franchise, but combining character articles and such is definitely looking like a possible issue. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 10:07, 14 June 2021 (EDT)
::Bumblebee would be the exception. An ideal SG Bumblebee article would start with a G1 section to the effect of "Bumblebee was small and looked like Cliffjumper; for more information see Goldbug (SG)" followed by the two relatively similar, quiet-spoken backstabber versions from Animated and Forged to Fight. [[User:TheLastGherkin|TheLastGherkin]] ([[User talk:TheLastGherkin|talk]]) 10:16, 14 June 2021 (EDT)
:::I'm really not sure about that. What's the point of folding them together if you're going to split one of the most prominent ones out? It's all or nothing, in my opinion. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 10:19, 14 June 2021 (EDT)
::::Even more than that, there's characters like Rhinox; there's nothing linking the gag character with the morally ambiguous TransTech one. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 10:22, 14 June 2021 (EDT)
::::And before anyone brings up classic examples like Marvel v Sunbow guys, those were characters based on the same toys. Not quite the same with SG guys. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 10:24, 14 June 2021 (EDT)
:::::The one thing I agree is that we should have a page compiling all Shattered Glass universes and listing them the same way we do with continuity family pages, like [[Movie continuity family]] for example. Put SG G1 as the "major continuity" and the others as minor. We need this page because most (if not all) SG pages direct to [[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass (franchise)]] and that's just plain wrong when we're dealing with SG Animated or SG Movie. All character pages should remain separate, but a singular SG page explaining everything is more than needed. --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 12:54, 14 June 2021 (EDT)
:::::: On that I absolutely agree. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 13:11, 14 June 2021 (EDT)

:Oof, no. Now, "Shattered Glass" might could use a page for it as a CONCEPT, sticking to out-of-universe discussion of it and how it's been applied to stuff outside the original series. But... not this. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:19, 14 June 2021 (EDT)
::I mean, sure, we don't have to treat it as "one big continuity", explaining how the concept expanded is enough. I just think that a page simply listing all instances of a new SG-based universe is going to be important as time goes on if the concept keeps getting revisited. ''And'' would make more sense as a linked page than to link SG Movie Optimus to the original SG franchise page when they have no real connection. It's as wrong as if we claimed that "[[Fire Prime]] is an Autobot from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|RID]] Animated continuity family". Unless we just use the current SG page for these purposes, but I don't see that as the better option. --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 19:10, 14 June 2021 (EDT)
:::Honestly, if the aim of this is to try and clear up minor pages people don't want, surely it would make more sense to merge the Shattered Glass versions with the ones they're explicitly spinning off from - ie merge SG Animated into Animated pages. (I am not suggesting this as an actual idea.) Shattered Glass is just the transformers name for "evil mirror version" which stuck around, and no-one is saying we should merge all Nemesis Primes from every continuity family together because they share conceptual DNA and a name. [[User:AkibaSilver|AkibaSilver]] ([[User talk:AkibaSilver|talk]]) 19:26, 14 June 2021 (EDT)

== Japanese retail ==

In the process of whipping up a comprehensive list of campaign items (those "buy toy X or Y amount of merchandise and you get this fancy exclusive redeco for free" thingies), the current progress of which can be seen [[User:Nevermore/Sandbox/Campaign item|here]], I've discovered that a lot of the writeups for those individual items are oftentimes based on very rough Google translations, and never fixed.

As a result, I've encountered several instances of the same store being given multiple different names, such as "Eiden", "Ideon" and "Eidon" for Edion (which is the spelling in the company's website URL and official logo), or even worse, "White Peony" and "Shirobotan" (or "Shiro Botan") for Hakubotan (again, the spelling in the company's website URL).

Additionally, there is the occasional bad grammar such as "He was an exclusive in Japan to Edion toy counter" or "Japanese stores like [...] Yamada Denki toy department", sometimes chains like "AEON", "EDION" and "BIC Camera" are spelled in ALLCAPS, and the original writeups made it seem like "Hakuhinkan Toy Park Ginza" and "Shiro Botan Ishinomaki" were both the names of chains with multiple stores, when in fact the stores in question were supposedly specific stores, namely the Hakuhinkan Toy Park main store ''in'' Ginza (Toyko's main shipping district) and the Hakubotan store inside the Aeon mall ''in'' Ishinomaki.

I assume these inconsistencies are the result of different people adding those writeups, but geez, what a mess.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore|talk]]) 07:39, 16 June 2021 (EDT)
:AAAAAND it turns out that AEON and JUSCO are one and the same company. JUSCO used to be a subsidiary of the larger AEON orporation, but the JUSCO stores in Japan all changed their name to AEON in 2011.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore|talk]]) 08:46, 16 June 2021 (EDT)

==Weapons==
Lately I've been going through (mostly) old Marvel stuff to nail down in-fiction appearances of G1 weapons - see [[Electro-kinetic blaster]], [[Plasma-shell shotgun]], and [[Thermal melter]] for examples. I'm thinking of adding something to the Notes section similar to the "Gadgets and Powers" we do for cartoon episodes but for weapon shout-outs in the comics, perhaps titled "Courtesy of my..." as a more ordered way of keeping track of them. Does anyone have any feelings on that one way or the other? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 08:48, 18 June 2021 (EDT)

== Request ==

[[Talk:Transformers Legends (comic)#Controversy section]]-if somebody's willing to take this up, I'd appreciate it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:03, 22 June 2021 (EDT)

==Separate voice actor categories by series?==
This is just an off-the-cuff idea, but would it be useful create categories for voice actors that appear in a specific TF series? For example, Peter Cullen would be under "TF 1984 voice actors" (or however we'd title it) and "Prime voice actors," David Kaye in "Beast Wars voice actors" and "Animated voice actors" and so on and so forth. I'm not suggesting these would replace the "English voice actors" category, they would just be in addition to it. Now, granted, I don't know if we would/should separate any Japanese (and other languages) voice actors and make separate categories for each language, which would probably get out of hand or be too much. Or we just lump the non-English VAs with the English ones for each series. Again, this is just a random idea I had and thought I would put it out there for consideration. I totally understand if there is no need or desire for such a thing to be implemented. [[User:Turborun|Turborun]] ([[User talk:Turborun|talk]]) 20:59, 1 July 2021 (EDT)

== Hershey's Kisses Treasure Surprise ==

I just stumbled across some of these that I had forgotten that I had received for Christmas. They are tiny figurines of TF characters packed with four Hershey's Kisses in a light blue clamshell container with a cardboard label wrapper (white card, printed with yellow background to the logos and pictures). The packaging says "Collect all five!" I have only two, but each had a different figurine: Optimus Prime and Starscream. The packaging also shows Bumblebee. To my eyes, the Starscream looks like the Classics design, but they are pretty generic (and my eyes ain't that great). Has anybody else seen these? Where should they be documented? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 09:47, 11 July 2021 (EDT)
:I've seen them around in the occasional CVS as well, actually; the full list is Optimus, Megatron, Bumblebee, Starscream, and Grimlock, and they all seem to be Evergreen/Cyberverse designs. As for where they should go, I'm honestly not sure. Probably a small page of its own similar to Candy Toy, and a quick write-up in each character's toy or merch section, though I'm not sure whether to list them as G1 or Cyberverse. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 11:21, 11 July 2021 (EDT)
::To my understanding we've been putting anything Evergreen-inspired under G1, except when they're specifically labeled as Cyberverse. So if the packaging only says "Transformers" and not "Cyberverse", I think they belong to G1. --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 12:51, 11 July 2021 (EDT)

== Reintegration of Hasbroverse wiki content ==

I think we should consider migrating the content from the IDW Hasbro Wiki back here. The addition of another wiki made sense as a preemptive measure when the shared universe was first announced and we had no idea how long it was going to run, but with just two years of content, there really didn't end up being all that much, and a sizable chunk of the non-TF books and related content live here already, either fully or partially. The number of links out on [[Rom]]'s page, for example, is rather low. Plus it just looks kinda silly when we have issues [[Wrath of Karza issue 1|#1]], [[Wrath of Karza issue 4|#4]], and [[Wrath of Karza issue 5|#5]] of a series on the wiki, but not {{i|Wrath of Karza issue 2|#2}} or {{i|Wrath of Karza issue 3|#3}}. The only major sticking point is all of the pre-Revolution G.I. Joe issues, which would be a *big* ask to include. I'd be curious to get other folks' thoughts on the matter, though. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 01:16, 23 July 2021 (EDT)

I think the Hasbroverse is Transformers centric enough to be moved to TFwiki, with GI Joe possibly being an exception.
[[User:MrRald|MrRald]] ([[User talk:MrRald|talk]]) 01:26, 23 July 2021 (EDT)
: I’m fine with post-Revolution stuff being incorporated. It still drives me bonkers that the last Visionaries story isn’t covered here despite 95% of that storyline being here. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 02:00, 23 July 2021 (EDT)
::As for pre-Revolution G.I. Joe, we don't include all of Marvel G.I. Joe either despite both the G1 and G2 crossovers. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 05:04, 23 July 2021 (EDT)

:::It sorta makes sense now. I doubt there will be an attempt to make another shared universe anytime soon. I assume there's a semi-reliable Joe wiki we could link to for the pre-Revolution/post Transformers material, if necessary. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] ([[User talk:MistaTee|talk]]) 10:06, 23 July 2021 (EDT)
::::Sensible. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 13:06, 23 July 2021 (EDT)
:::::I think the current IDW Hasbroverse wiki could just be converted to solely IDW Joe, since I don't believe the general G.I. Joe wiki is very comprehensive. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:25, 23 July 2021 (EDT)
::::::The general GI Joe wiki is nearly moribund. As an admin there, I invite anyone who wants to to come in and help. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 15:58, 23 July 2021 (EDT)
Can't help with this at all but sounds good, have at it [[User:Notsoalex|--notsoalex]] ([[User talk:Notsoalex|talk]]) 00:25, 25 July 2021 (EDT)
:Echoing others that folding in the remainder of the content between Revolution and Unicron is just sensible and we can cross the Joe bridge when we come to it. -[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 10:49, 25 July 2021 (EDT)
I'm gonna leave the discussion open for a few more days to make sure everyone who wants a say can have one, but this seems pretty unanimous so far. That said, while I'm thinking of it, what do we want to do about Jem? The stance on coverage over there is "{{i|Jem and the Holograms (franchise)#Canonicity of Jem in the IDW Hasbro Universe|the characters are canon to Hasbroverse, but the books and stories themselves are not, but we're going to cover them anyway}}". Thus as something that's kinda-sorta-but-not-really related, is that too far outside of scope to carry over, or should those articles be migrated too? -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 20:08, 26 July 2021 (EDT)
:I wouldn't include Jem (or Clue) here. Only media actually in continuity with IDW TF. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 20:52, 26 July 2021 (EDT)

Well, that's good enough for me. I'm starting a [[User:Cyberlink420/IDWSandbox|central hub]] to keep track of all that pages that need to be moved over or merged with existing pages. Please add to this list as you find pages that need migrating or complete the process. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 15:37, 6 August 2021 (EDT)
:'''''Further discussion on this topic has moved to [[User talk:Cyberlink420/IDWSandbox|this page]]; please provide your input.''''' -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 19:57, 6 August 2021 (EDT)

== Pre-''Transformers'' repurposing documentation ==

Hey all, I had been wondering if we should document the repurposings of left over pre-''Transformers'' products in the toy sections instead of the notes sections? Or even both maybe?

I threw together a quick '''[[User:Fanofcoolstuff27/sandbox/Pre-Transformers toys|sandbox]]''' of a couple of ideas I had. The first was just listing them all under the blanket term-header "Pre-''Transformers''" and the other was using their actual franchise of origin as a header (e.g. Diaclone, Micro Change, Microman, etc.).

I just figured that since we document fictional toys of characters that appear in comics etc. under the toy sections, wouldn't it also make sense to add the repurposed Pre-G1 toys? It especially makes sense (to me at least) when a lot of those toys or characters appeared in fiction long before any e-HOBBY, MP or Selects releases of those characters were made, and some of them haven't received official ''Transformers'' updates at all.

Let me know your thoughts. --[[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 00:07, 1 August 2021 (EDT)
:I believe the central debate here will be whether we consider these toys "in-scope." I do think this structure would generally be more user friendly than what we're doing at present if folks do not consider it a bridge too far. With regards to your sandbox, I would say the most sensible title structure would be the bottom one, as there's no sense in playing coy about the names of these toylines, with "Transformers" and "Pre-Transformers" supertitles when applicable. -[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 14:08, 4 August 2021 (EDT)
Okay this concept has since been haphazardly implemented by a few different people with little pushback but the the moment I added a pre-TF toy section to one of my own articles it was removed. So let's try this again. Thoughts on including toy writeups for '''specific products''' from Diaclone, Microchange, Microman etc repurposed in Transformers fiction. We are not talking "inspired by the abstract concept of Waruders" or "new toy shares a color scheme with a Diaclone release" here. Some potential discussion points off the dome:

*'''Cons''' - Strictly speaking out of scope. Could be considered a slippery slope to writing up easter eggs from wholly unrelated toylines. Edge cases could get fuzzy.

*'''Pros''' - Generally more reader friendly than the ersatz toy writeups in the Notes section we're already doing. "Pre-Transformers" is a pretty tightly bounded scope based in franchises we already cover in a limited capacity. If implemented properly this discussion should only apply to tens of articles.

Any thoughts appreciated. Thanks. -[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 17:36, 7 October 2021 (EDT)
:Actual toy sections are more sensible and accessible than shoving the information into note sections. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 17:48, 7 October 2021 (EDT)

:I think repurposes of that kind should be covered on the toys sections and not clutter the notes. It's useful information that doesn't harm the articles.
[[User:MrRald|MrRald]] ([[User talk:MrRald|talk]]) 17:49, 7 October 2021 (EDT)

:Where has it been implemented, "haphazardly" or otherwise, that pre-TF toys would get listed as TF toys? As you said, it is indeed out of scope and I don't see any possible positives to balance that. Not sure I see how it's difficult for our readers to understand a Note about a non-TF toyline. It's all at the same eye level, but calling it a Toy pretends a toy from 1981 is a Transformer and calling it a Note doesn't. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 18:20, 7 October 2021 (EDT)
::[[Spin-Out (G1)]], [[Cordon]], [[Magna Convoy]], [[Azimuth (G1)]], [[Azimuth (COP)]], [[Ephemeris]], and [[Meantime (G1)]] have varying degrees of implementation, to name a few . -[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 18:55, 7 October 2021 (EDT)
:::Spin-Out, Cordon, and Magna Convoy are the only actual changes - the only ones re-categorizing Diaclone toys into ''being'' Transformers toys. Meantime, Azimuth, and Ephemeris are correct, matching [[Headcannon]] and [[Skyklik]] and pre-TF [[Treadshot (G1)]]. Can we please not blur that line? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 19:19, 7 October 2021 (EDT)
::::Sounds like we're talking around about three rough categories of examples here:
::::*Full Pre-TF writeup in toy section - Cordon, Spin-Out, Magna Convoy etc
::::*Pre-TF named in toy section - Azimuth, Ephemeris, Meantime etc
::::*Pre-TF info fully contained in notes - Headcannon, Skyclick, Treadshot etc
::::Now to be clear, "pre-TFs have been sporadically added to toy sections" was intended as a value neutral observation and not part of an argument. If this premise has been satisfactorily established let us return to primary point of discussion, namely "Do we want them there or not." -[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 20:22, 7 October 2021 (EDT)
:::::......wow wooow, I didn't even notice that Azimuth and Ephemeris have Toy sections, because they aren't formatted like our Toy sections. I am going to take the liberty of renaming those as Notes sections since this proposal was supposed to be about where we put pre-TF data, not about how maybe every single page should look different now. Anyway, uh. No one has ever opposed including relevant pre-TF toy info. We shouldn't include things that aren't TF toys in our lists of things that are TF toys. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 20:58, 7 October 2021 (EDT)
::::::[[Kuwagatrer]] was like that before it was reformatted into a normal toy section (not by me, for the record). [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 21:23, 7 October 2021 (EDT)
My concern is that we really DON'T want to have a hundred GoBots and three hundred G.I. Joe toys and however many Ponies written up. That said, when a Microman or Diaclone toy without any characterization gets repurposed into a new guy, having info about the toy seems reasonable. Crossovers, no; stealth repurposing of Takara ancestral products, yes. It's relevant and relatively short, and regardless only applies in a very small number of cases. I'm agnostic as to whether it should go in the Toy section or the Notes section. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 19:22, 7 October 2021 (EDT)
:I will add that these were '''''strictly''''' brought up for left over toys from Takara that weren't merged into the ''Transformers'' rebranding in the 80s and 90s. The way I see it, they aren't all that different to cancelled toys in that they ''could'' have become ''Transformers'' products but ultimately ''didn't'', yet still got fictional appearances anyway, much like BWN Unicron or ''Universe'' (2003) Spacewarp. Besides, who's it hurting? It allows for more wiggle room to flesh out info on the toy itself without the restrictions that a notes section creates. Half of these toys have either been forgotten about or are just unknown to most people and not many places provide info on these toys either, so having that extra info could potentially be helpful for our readers who want to know more.

:Also, quick side note: the Magna Convoy toy AzimuthAcolyte is referring to is his Blue Knight body from the ''Generations Selects'' comic which was a ''Microman'' toy pre-''Transformers''. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 19:38, 7 October 2021 (EDT)

Diaclone toys aren't Transformers and so they don't go in the Transformers toy section. You want information about them to be more readable? Find a different way to achieve that rather than creating a misleading perception about them by putting them where they don't belong. The first thing in that section should actually be a Transformer. Crazy idea, I know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 21:00, 7 October 2021 (EDT)

== Creating a foreign name list ==
A complete list page of all so far known foreign names and phrases. Grouped by continuity families, factions and priority. (First Optimus, Bumblebee, Megatron, Starscream...)
[[User:Kiké Prime|Kiké Prime]] ([[User talk:Kiké Prime|talk]]) 03:50, 6 August 2021 (EDT)
: [[Transformers_Wiki:Policies#We_Hate_Lists]] --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 23:45, 6 August 2021 (EDT)

== Generations subline toy headers on character pages ==

I believe this has received enough support on Discord and on "[[Talk:Transformers: Generations (toyline)]]", but I am reiterating on the Community Portal for everyone in general. It has become clear that Hasbro considers "''Generations''" a catch-all branding for many unrelated lines. Thusly, though I suggested the fix in the first place, it no longer makes sense for us in a post-''Prime Wars Trilogy'' world to lump together many indented subline headers underneath "''Generations''". Concordantly, a lone ''Generations'' figure such as [[Overlord (G1)#Titans Return|''Titans Return'' Overlord]] can afford to lose the "''Generations''" label in favour of "''Titans Return''" alone. As a proof-of-concept of restoring plain chronological series order, I just overhauled "[[Galvatron (G1)/toys]]". This eliminates the ridiculous placement of the ''Generations Selects'' figure above the ''Kingdom'' figure due to technically being labelled on packaging as ''War for Cybertron Trilogy'' in tandem with the HasLab Unicron pack-in minifigure. In addition, the entry for the ''Legends'' figure is physically nearer to the entry for the contemporary ''Titans Return'' counterpart, and ''Kre-O'' can now naturally come in release order before post-''Thrilling 30'' series. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 04:50, 30 August 2021 (EDT)
:That honestly looks so much better. I've gone and done the same with "[[Megatron (G1)/Generations toys]]" so we have an idea on how it would look implemented on split out pages. I've also shifted the G2 Megatron repaints that were originally categorized under "''War for Cybertron: Siege''" and "''War for Cybertron Trilogy''" respectively to the "''Generations Selects''" header with Super Megatron. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 05:21, 30 August 2021 (EDT)
::In addition to simply reorganizing the toy headers, we really ought to be treating "Generations" like we treat "Timelines", only using it for Generations 2010 to Thrilling 30 while everything from Combiner Wars onward should be using their respective line names, including with their own disambigs. There are too many uses of "(Generations)" tags in instances where the much more direct "(CW)", "(TR)", "(POTP)", "(Selects)", "(Siege)", "(Earthrise)", and "(Kingdom)" would be far more concise. Generations stopped being the name of its own line as soon as Combiner Wars took it out of the toy packaging's main title logo and moved it to a tiny little brand logo in the corner.
::Even the tie-in media for Combiner Wars through now never used the "Generations" name. The cartoons were "Transformers: Combiner Wars", "Transformers: Titans Return", "Transformers: Power of the Primes", and "Transformers: War For Cybertron Trilogy". The comic events for Combiner Wars and Titans Return were the same only minus the "Transformers:" part. Even in the TV commercials for each line called them "Transformers: Combiner Wars" and so on, never calling them "Transformers Generations: Combiner Wars" etc.
::These aren't subline imprints, they're their own lines, and ought to be treated as such, right down to having disambiguation tags like "(CW)", "(TR)", "(POTP)", "(Siege)", "(Earthrise)", "(Kingdom)", and "(Selects)". In the cases of FOC and Thrilling 30, those did keep the title as "Transformers: Generations", so those ''were'' subline imprints and should stay as such. It also works to distinguish between Archer Era Generations (a toyline) and Warden Era Generations (an umbrella term/category).
::The current people at Hasbro call these "Generations lines" in the sense that they are each their own line belonging to an umbrella term/category rather than being the same single line that Generations used to be before the changeover of Hasbro teams in 2014-2015. It's basically become how like we would say that Beast Wars, Beast Machines, Japanese Beast Wars, and Car Robots (and arguably Animorphs) are all "Beast Era lines", or like how we'd say Armada, Energon, and Cybertron are all "Unicron Trilogy lines", or like Movie 1, ROTF, DOTM, AOE, TLK, and Bumblebee are all "Movieverse lines". Even things like half of the AOE line and all of Studio Series are officially considered "Generations lines" despite the obvious connotations of "Generations" that most fans do not associate with the Movieverse lines. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 11:26, 30 August 2021 (EDT)
:::I'm fine with changing the section headers and disambigs. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 11:41, 30 August 2021 (EDT)
::::So I'm taking that we're also changing Movieverse toy sections from "Generations" to "Studio Series". I'm down with that. --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 15:11, 30 August 2021 (EDT)
:::::Hmm, you raise an interesting point. How might we implement something like this to, say, [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys]], which has multiple different "Generations" headers and sub-headers between one-half of AOE's line, the whole of Studio Series/Movie Edition/Premium Finish, and a portion of Buzzworthy Bumblebee? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 00:12, 31 August 2021 (EDT)
::::::My solution is, we leave the AOE portion just as it is, as it's already placed separately from the rest of Generations and in the right chronological order, and the "Generations" header is necessary there to separate those toys from the "Robots in Disguise" ones. Studio Series, Movie Edition and Premium Finish should get promoted to their own lines just like CW, TR, POTP etc, and as for Buzzworthy we should just change the "Generations" header to "Studio Series". If we all agree on this, I'd like to help implementing these changes myself. --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 01:14, 31 August 2021 (EDT)

==How old should my account be?==
To make captions? [[User:Grimbee|Grimbee]] ([[User talk:Grimbee|talk]])
:It's not about age. Captions are meant to be a reward for users who actually put in the hard work adding proper content to the wiki. And considering you've barely contributed (and most of the things you HAVE posted are jokes, one-sentence articles, or talk page messages telling ''other people'' to do things), doing so would be in poor taste at best. Honestly, if you're only here because you want to add captions, you're better off going somewhere else. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 17:30, 6 September 2021 (EDT)

==Streamlining disambig headers==
Several on the Discord have voiced assent, so I am bringing the topic here. Our current system for putting disambig headers is unintuitive and overly complex. It creates situations like movie Sentinel who is stuck at (ROTF) thanks to a one line mention, as well as the completely jumbled mess of Aligned, with character pages at (Exodus) or (WFC) or sometimes just (Aligned) etc.

My proposal is we streamline this by just having everybody at the continuity they hail from, not the piece of it. All movie characters at (Movie) and all Unicron Trilogy characters at (Unicron Trilogy) or possibly (UT). An argument I've seen for the current system is that it specifies which part of the family somebody comes from, but the fiction section already shows what parts they are in.

Characters like RID15 Grimlock or Prime Breakdown would be exceptions to this, of course, potentially maybe suite them with the other of their name in that continuity for convenient wiki searching.
[[User:McBaggins|McBaggins]] ([[User talk:McBaggins|talk]]) 11:15, 17 September 2021 (EDT)
:Oh God a thousand times yes. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 11:19, 17 September 2021 (EDT)
I have advocated for this move before so I vote in favor.
There's also a set precedent with Strongarm (G1) being moved from Strongarm (BWU) for the sake of reader friendliness.
Simplifying the disambigs will reduce the amount of initials and individual disambigs one has to go through when searching a specific character.
[[User:MrRald|MrRald]] ([[User talk:MrRald|talk]]) 11:25, 17 September 2021 (EDT)
:I'm leaning against. Under the current system everything is handled the same way, with a limited number of (G1 Autobot) type clarifiers, but if you go by continuity family first, there are ''so'' many situations that would need further disambiguation that you'd lose all consistency.
:Just think how many Beast Era characters alone reuse G1 character names - you've instantly got huge swathes of characters who are gonna need further disambiguation. So then you potentially have a situation of "Terrorsaur (G1)" versus "Inferno (BW)", where guys originating in the same thing have got a random assortment of disambig tags. So maybe you make an exception for Beast Era and use (BW) and (BM) by default, but then you're starting to get half way back to the current system...
:I'm not really convinced of an "ease of searching" logic because that's not what disambig tags are for, they're just a technical thing because we can't name multiple pages the same thing. If you're looking for a certain Hound, you can just type "Hound" into the search bar and pick the right one off a nice disambig page list, you don't have to try and guess at what the disambig is. (And while it obviously shouldn't be a main reason for any decisions, the amount of link changes and page moves this would require would be absolutely insane.) [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 11:34, 17 September 2021 (EDT)
::I definitely agree with ''not'' throwing BW/BM characters down the G1 hole and then having to build ladders of exceptions back out for every name reuse. If we're going to try this at all, start with something that would need the fewest ad hoc fixes possible. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 12:11, 17 September 2021 (EDT)
:Not voting one way or another, but just wanted to say that the (WFC)/(Prime) and (Movie)/(ROTF)/(DOTM)/(etc) distinctions are the ones that have actually bothered me in the past. These are the ones where many prominent characters from later instalments share pages with super minor ones from the previous instalments. Conversely, I don't like the idea of merging (BW) and (BM). But creating merges for (Aligned) and (Movie) would solve a lot of headaches. (And, as a side note, the acronym WFC refers to SO many things now.) —[[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 11:47, 17 September 2021 (EDT)
::Instead of trying to change ''almost everything'' with a few exceptions, why not just simply zero in on making "(Aligned)" the main exceptional change? Since it's probably the one that needs the treatment of this proposal the most. For the characters who share names, I'd say neither would get to use the "(Aligned)" tag out of fairness. Like how we currently have the two BW Silverbolts at disambigs other than "(BW)". The two Sideswipes would remain at "(WFC)" and "(RID)", for instance. Same with the two Grimlocks, the two Kickbacks, the two Bludgeons, etc. Luckily, I think most shared-name cases are either with equally minor characters or equally major characters, the biggest exception I see being the Prime and COP Predakings. Maybe a suite could link those two together (along with all the other Prime and COP Predacons) since while each is their own separate person the implication of each Prime one being cloned from the COP ones suggests a biological connection between each one. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 11:48, 17 September 2021 (EDT)
::: I think the whole system could use serious overhaul but I definitely see the value in taking baby steps. Aligned seems to be the one that has the worst current system and the easiest fix so I'm all for giving it a shot. If it works, great, if not we've learned something. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 12:00, 17 September 2021 (EDT)
::::Thinking more about this, I'm beginning to feel that maybe not ''every'' single-named Aligned character necessarily needs the "(Aligned)" tag. Some do, certainly, like those who have appeared across nearly all of the fiction spanning all of the eras. Optimus, Bumblebee, Megatron, Starscream, Jazz, who were in all/most of the games, books, ''and'' cartoons should get it. But if someone was only in the games, or only in one cartoon, then maaaaaybe they should be considered less of a priority for the "(Aligned)" tag. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 12:24, 17 September 2021 (EDT)
:::::I think I would prefer just moving over the video game characters (and that dumb pop-up disambig) to "Prime". That was the main spine to Aligned, and it's weird how we got pedantic over video games and pretended they were "franchises". [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 12:32, 17 September 2021 (EDT)
In favor of tackling Aligned first, then thinking about other continuity headings later and separately. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 12:44, 17 September 2021 (EDT)

I just ran the numbers, and if we were to roll with this plan, 296 character pages would need to be moved from their current disambig to "(Aligned)", while 48 would be left as is due to someone or something else with the same name in that continuity. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 13:09, 17 September 2021 (EDT)
:I am for this change. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 18:42, 17 September 2021 (EDT)
::I am down for starting with moving Aligned characters. I think this would help tremendously, especially if it expands to G1 and more (almost made me wish it had a better name but what ya gonna do) [[User:Notsoalex|--notsoalex]] ([[User talk:Notsoalex|talk]]) 15:49, 18 September 2021 (EDT)

I agree with using Alligned as the guinea pig for all the reasons stated above. [[User:MrRald|MrRald]] ([[User talk:MrRald|talk]]) 17:21, 18 September 2021 (EDT)

It sounds like a good idea to me in the long run. Aligned always felt messy as it is now, with so many different potential origin points for characters. I imagine a newer fan might find it confusing.[[User:ParadoxFactor|ParadoxFactor]] ([[User talk:ParadoxFactor|talk]]) 18:07, 18 September 2021 (EDT)

Absolutely ''against'' using "Aligned". It's not an official designation, it's never been an official designation, and while it's entrenched enough that there's little point in expunging all our uses of it, we shouldn't be using it for disambiguations. That said, considering WFOC to be part of the Prime franchise is something I could get behind. As to an overall "disambiguate by continuity family" approach... mmmnnh I'm not dead-set against it, but it's been debated many, many times in the past, and the decision's always come down to "franchise not family". --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 18:54, 18 September 2021 (EDT)
:I think I agree with avoiding "Aligned" for disambigs. Folding WFC, FOC, and COP into Prime would solve a lot of people's issues with the Aligned disambigs, I think. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 20:06, 18 September 2021 (EDT)
::That's treating a symptom and not the disease. Pretending that they're from a different franchise because if you're too strict about which franchises 'count' you get gibberish is a bandaid. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 22:03, 18 September 2021 (EDT)
:::I dunno, WFC, Exodus and Prime were all treated as being part of the same initiative back when they first came out, right? "Prime" is the only part of that with actual franchise branding, so I don't think it's unreasonable to consider them part of the same thing. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 21:15, 19 September 2021 (EDT)
::::It's absolutely not unreasonable to consider them all part of the same thing. But that thing is Aligned, not Prime. WFC was absolutely not Prime branded. And that's the whole point of this. IMO. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 23:01, 19 September 2021 (EDT)
:::::While we're focused on using Aligned as a guinea pig, it should be mentioned, however, "aligned" IS just a word. I watched an interview with FJ Desanto and he mentioned Hasbro wishes Cyberverse and WFC to match up since they are part of an aligned continuity, so key moments should match up like Optimus throwing the Allspark. Idk verbatim but I'm sure I can find it, and I'm SUPER sure they used aligned [[User:Notsoalex|--notsoalex]] ([[User talk:Notsoalex|talk]]) 11:34, 20 September 2021 (EDT)

Hypothetically, potentially, in an imaginary alternate universe... is it possible to switch everything back? The next live-action movie is going to be about Beasts and so is its tie-in media. If they invent Movie Manterror and Movie Tigatron, then we're going to have to disambig the prior characters as being from G1 and not BW. And, uh, no. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 13:41, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
:BW is not going to be folded back into G1, period. Any BW characters stay (BW), and in that hypothetical scenario, those pages would get moved to Manterror (BW) and Tigatron (BW). -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 13:46, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
::But then we're using a blatant double standard out of sentimental favoritism, on a huge, un-ignorable, wiki-wide scale. And we shouldn't do that. If we're going to keep the distinctiveness of Beast Wars, we should keep that of Victory. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 14:20, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
:::The next movie isn't going to be a Beast Wars movie, though. It's going be a "Rise of the Beasts" movie. Any new Manterror or Tigatron introduced in that movie would have a "(ROTB)" tag. If the movie was to be called "Transformers: Beast Wars", ''then'' we'd have a problem. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 14:26, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
::::The title of the movie isn't the point. Once there is a shared character name, all with that name get disambigs. There is no "default" Inferno. So once we have to disambig everyone effected, either we stay consistent with our Sept2021 system and disambig "old" Tigatron and Manterror as G1, or we work with multiple different systems for the same function on the same wiki based on subjective favoritism mostly shaped by how old people were when they first found the hobby. EDIT: actually it isn't hypothetical, if we're sticking with the Sept2021 system then Quickstrike (BW) and Depth Charge (BW) must now be disambigged as G1, or we're saying after about 20 hours that we're already largely ignoring our new system but still keeping it around to create confusion. Welcome to Hell. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 14:32, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
:::::Huh? Isn't the Beast Era as a whole already treated as a special case, an umbrella thing, in the same vein as say, "Unicron Trilogy"? I know on a strict continuity sense it's all quote unquote Primax, but the point of this move is a "let's not be nerds about this" thing. AOE Lockdown being at Lockdown (ROTF) is kinda weird; that's what this is about. —[[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 15:13, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
::::::Beast Era is definitely a special case, otherwise we would have BW Megatron on a different page than G1 Megatron. (And don't say 'but they met each other' because Transformers meet other versions of themselves all the time.) There are also things like [[Strongarm (G1)]] and I do note that we don't have [[Trypticon (G1)]] under [[Trypticon (Scramble City)]] even though he appeared there before anywhere else. We make exceptions all the time when it makes sense to do so. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 15:27, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
:::::::BW and BM and their Japanese spinoffs are within the G1 continuity family, no more or less than Masterforce is within G1, no more or less than AOE and ROTF are both within Movie. Unicron Trilogy is its own continuity family, like Movie and G1; it is a higher category than Beast Era. I don't think we've ever made a policy of "treating the Beast Era as a special case" to the degree that we dissolve some major franchises of origin but not others. That doesn't make it easier, because it creates ''dozens to hundreds'' of exceptions that everybody has to actively remember forever, and if someone ever asks why we're doing it, the answer is just "We like the cartoon from 1999 better than the cartoon from 2003, and ''make sure you remember that'', maybe tie a rubber band around your finger or make up a little rhyme to help you." '''We should really turn back, gang'''. We just passed Obsidian (G1), Blastcharge (G1), Hamerstrike (G1), Strika (G1), Tankor (G1)....--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 15:35, 20 September 2021 (EDT)

Okay, so, I was tentatively in favour of the change to the WFC/FOC disambigs on the basis of them being games rather than franchises, but I had forgotten that there were Generations (etc) toys released with that branding. I am very much against disambiguating based on continuity, and ''especially'' using an unofficial name like Aligned for that. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 19:03, 20 September 2021 (EDT)

==Simplifying Japanese toyline disambigs==
Related tangent—an idea I had was to simplify (Headmasters), (Masterforce), (Victory), and (Zone) to just (G1), with obvious exceptions like the Zone faction-switch Microtransformers (and I guess Ricochet since there's already a G1 Ricochet <s>maybe we should move that to Stepper</s>). The same would apply for (BWII) and (BWN) to (BW). Both eras were functionally sold under the general G1 and BW lines by Takara, after all.

And the various (SL), (Adventure), (LOTM), etc disambigs would default to their Hasbro counterpart lines. This thing is being more pedantic than we need to. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:04, 17 September 2021 (EDT)

[[User:Saix/sandbox|Listing of pages with Japanese disambigs.]] [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:49, 17 September 2021 (EDT)
:As someone who has been slowly going through and changing all of our JG1 toy headers to the accurate F!SRLT ones, I am all for this simplification. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 18:41, 17 September 2021 (EDT)
::Likewise. Much more straightforward for the casual reader. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 18:53, 17 September 2021 (EDT)
:https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Star_Saber_(disambiguation)
:So under the proposed system, would it be the main page saying "Star Saber (G1)", nothing changed further? Or would that disambig page now additionally say "''G1'' Star Saber" and "Star Saber, the Supreme Commander from G1"? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 11:59, 18 September 2021 (EDT)
::Either way is fine to me. I'm not that invested in disambiguation wording. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:26, 18 September 2021 (EDT)
:This is an obviously good idea. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 17:25, 18 September 2021 (EDT)
This is definitely a change for the better.
[[User:MrRald|MrRald]] ([[User talk:MrRald|talk]]) 17:29, 18 September 2021 (EDT)
:This is a pretty straightforward extension of the toy section streamlining initiative already underway. I echo others that this would absolutely be a win for reader accessibility. No sense hairsplitting by what is essentially country of origin. -[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 18:19, 18 September 2021 (EDT)
:I'm in favour of this, yeah, assuming "if there's a preexisting G1 character of the same name, we keep the JG1 subline disambig". --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 18:49, 18 September 2021 (EDT)

i'm glad i looked away for exactly two days and we've decided to just start recategorizing the entire damn wiki under continuity family rather than franchise of origin --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 19:24, 19 September 2021 (EDT)
:goddamn we deliberated longer on splitting out non-G1 versions of the magnaboss guys... and this was kind of a major-ass overhaul --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 19:29, 19 September 2021 (EDT)
::As I said, I'm in favour of this change — rooted in "Japan treated all the various lines as part of the G1/BW franchises", not "reorganising based on continuity family" — but, yeah, it's been THREE DAYS. We absolutely can't treat "well there wasn't any disagreement" as basis to make these kinds of sweeping changes so quickly. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 21:18, 19 September 2021 (EDT)
While I am in favor of what's been done, it seems to highlight the problem I have with us using Discord. The presentation of this proposal here seemed to me to imply that the discussion on Discord had favored it and it was pretty much good to go. I assumed that Walky and others who had previously opposed such moves had weighed in there. I really don't agree with the idea of discussions that affect the wiki being held off site. It's too "secret cabal" for me. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 09:50, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
:THANK YOU. The Discordification of the wiki is one of the worst things to ever happen to it. Every major change made here should be based on a discussion that is held ''here,'' with a transparent and permanent record of it. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 09:55, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
::I made this argument back when major decisions were being made on the Allspark wiki thread. Once the Discord was launched, and I was told major decisions would not be made on another webpage but an entirely different platform I would have to download in order to follow, I chose to quit contributing for a year. I agree that it smells of "secret cabal". Decisions about wiki content and policies should be made on the wiki, visible to everyone. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 10:04, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
:::Policy on the Discord has always been that regardless of any discussion there, all major changes should be brought up and discussed here on the talk pages to have everything on record and avoid this very scenario. That's why this thread even exists. The recent moves are not "secret cabal", it's one person rushing into things before due process had a chance to run its course. (And Thylacine and Xaaron, considering I've seen you both post in the AllSpark thread, another source for off-site wiki discussion that now no longer has a record thereof, I don't think you have room to criticize the "Discordization" of the wiki. If you choose to participate in off-site discussion on one site but think another is over the line, that's exclusively on you.) -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 11:25, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
::::I participated in the AllSpark wiki thread because it was often necessary to be involved ''there'' about decisions ''here'', while also advocating that that shouldn't be the case at the same time. I can't point to the occasional rant I had about it on Allspark anymore after their attack, but you can see here in Archive65, "Other versions of character" where I complain about people announcing major changes on Allspark instead of the Community Portal. And, like Thy said, at least I could find the Allspark discussions. I tried to learn Discord during the Allspark/Pete thing, and I found it impossible to find/follow a conversation that was only hours old at the time. So, once the process of off-site discussions was both something I disagreed with AND something I couldn't follow even if I tried, I stopped being involved in the site community. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 12:18, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
::::There was never a major change made based on the AS thread, there ''certainly'' wasn't the pervasive attitude of "Why are you reverting such-and-such, this was already worked out on the Discord" for the AS thread, and also at least the AS thread was in the same format as our wiki pages so you could go back and quickly follow the sequence of a threaded discussion from years ago if you'd wanted to. Stuff on Discord scrolls away if you're not looking and unless someone specifically searches for it they'd never even see the discussion at all. You are correct that the AS thread now has no record - but that is a bug, not a feature, as it was erased along with the entire Allspark board, and I don't expect anyone will try to make a new one, precisely because such vulnerabilities are now obvious. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 11:47, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
:::Also, Discord doesn't require you to download anything; you can [https://discord.com/ use the browser-based version] just fine. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 11:36, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
::::I think Discord is a fine place to brainstorm, drum up support for an idea, figure out what some of the pros and cons are of any given proposal. But enthusiastic support for an idea on Discord should not be taken as a reason to bypass discussion here. I'm enthusiastically in favor of this change and even I think it was implemented too quickly. Discord people (of whom I'm one), voicing your support and reasoning there is no substitute for voicing it here. But I'd like to push back on the notion that there's anything secret about it, it's a very open forum and can be fantastic for hashing out half-formed thoughts without having to take such a black-and-white stand on every issue. I think Saix just jumped the gun. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 11:49, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
:::::Just chiming in as one of the Discord mods to say that we have been trying our best to direct important changes here. I think the instantaneous nature of the Discord makes it easy to end up in a rush over things. However, I think the "live" nature of it has genuinely helped reduce the number of heated arguments like those that happen on talkpages/threads, because miscommunications seem to happen less often and can be cleared up faster; it's a shame that it's introduced problems of its own. The intent absolutely isn't to obfuscate! Speaking historically, the reason the wiki Discord was made was to try and merge two groups of editors—those posting in the Allspark thread, and those posting in the Allspark Discord—which, honestly, was a status quo that much more closely (if inadvertently) resembled a secret cabal. The current setup is broadly an improvement over that; it's not perfect, but hopefully people can get used to the "brainstorm there, table here" approach we've been trying to push and we'll see less of these problems over time, rather than more. —[[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 12:40, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
::::::When it comes to off-site discussions, we have always been directed by both the admins of the wiki and the moderators of the Discord server to bring our topics up either here or on the respective talk pages. The input here always gets taken as the "true" vote no matter what, whereas most discussions on Discord are as Jim and Wads have said, just throwing around ideas and brainstorming, which can be very beneficial for filtering out the "dumb" and/or half-formed ideas before presenting the well-thought out ones here. That being said, Saix's actions yesterday should not be taken as the collective work of any off-site discussions. Most of us weren't even aware that he had already started moving stuff until Walky brought up his concerns here after the fact. But yeah, it seems that the Discord's instantaneous real-time reply system has made a few of us forget that talk page and portal discussions aren't as fast and that some users aren't around every hour of every day, leaving us with moments where things get changed a little ''too'' hastily before everyone has had a chance to see it or respond to it. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 12:53, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
:::::::We should probably move all of the talk about off-site discussion to a different header, as it seems we've gone overboard with it. --[[User:DDog|DDog]] ([[User talk:DDog|talk]]) 12:59, 20 September 2021 (EDT)

Okay, just to make things very clear and stop discussions getting mixed up: '''this section is about the proposal to use (G1) disambigs for late-JG1 and (BW) disambigs for BWII/BWN, ''because they are considered the same franchise in Japan'''''. BWII toys were sold under ''Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers'', Victory was sold under ''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers''. This has nothing to do with the "disambiguate by continuity family" proposal, which is in the section ''above'' this one. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 18:59, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
:Also moving Japanese franchise disambigs to their American counterparts (e.g. LOTM to Armada, Adventure to RID2015, etc.), except in instances where two characters with the same name exist. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 19:17, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
::I have reinserted those remarks where they belonged. The "disambig by continuity instead of by franchise because Japan" is no longer a "proposal," ''it has already happened,'' and I think it's a mistake that rather seriously breaks the wiki which is why I asked several times for it to be undone, at least until people could vote on it in the light of day. I do not see "because Japan" as a worthwhile reason. Once we create "Overlord (G1)," there is no internally consistent reason to have a "Quickstrike (BW)." Someone born in 2003 who never heard of ''any'' Transformers pre-Animated will have no idea why we are breaking up certain series or characters, and for them to get it they'll have to learn a lot of background about Transformers ''before they can start actually learning about Transformers.'' Upthread I saw a bunch of people say the equivalent of "Obviously this is a great idea!", with none of them explaining exactly what was so great about it. Would anyone care to start? Preferably after this radical change has been reversed, so people can decide in good faith whether or not it's good instead of feeling like they have to come to terms with a diktat that was forced on them? Thanks. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 19:52, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
:::Moving back because you're continuing to miss the point. Moving late JG1 to G1 and BWII/Neo to BW isn't being done by continuity family, it's because they were being sold as G1/BW toys. They're not franchises, they're sublines. By the same token, if we have Overlord (Masterforce), we should move Darksteel (Prime) to Darksteel (Beast Hunters). The treatment of JG1 and JBW as full franchises in place of sublines is rooted in misunderstanding from over a decade ago, and the passage of time has allowed us to gain a better understanding of what these lines actually were. Hence why JG1's and JBW's toyline pages were merged back into their parent toyline pages ''a year ago''. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 20:02, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
::::Also going to point out that Overlord was at Overlord (G1) ''until'' 2009. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 20:03, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
:::::If toy packaging and instructions support "flattening" the G1s and BWs into G1 and BW, then, okay, fine. That IS how we do things. That is the letter of our law. What sent off my alarm bells is the flattening, which felt very "we're changing fundamentally how we're organizing things," away from franchise-of-origin, and also the doing it in two days. I actually didn't see the ACTUAL "let's do this by continuity family" discussion one subheader above until later! Which I guess is alarm bells vindicated, I dunno. And that's a whole other thing. But: It's just, like, if you're going to move literally hundreds of pages... give it more than two days. Give me a heads up, even. (Though I really have a feeling Saix wanted to get this done before I found out. It's a feeling.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 22:25, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
::::::Entirely fair. I will say that I think that, while the pages ''shouldn't'' have been moved to begin with, I don't think we should go through the huge ordeal of moving them back until we ''have'' come to an agreement on this just to prevent a repeated back-and-forth mass-page-move. (Of course, if people agree that the pages should be at (Masterforce) et al, absolutely move them back.) --10:05, 21 September 2021 (EDT)
::::JG1 and JBW series are repeatedly listed as franchises all over this wiki, including on the [[Franchise]] page and on their own pages. If the argument is "the instructions say Japanese-G1-font-then-Victory, so it's just a subline of G1 and not its own thing," then we are still very much hurled into the same problem I've been talking about. The late-G1 "Thunderclash windshield" logo is used on G2 and BW, so Blackarachnia is every bit as G1 as is Deathsaurus. Or are we basing this on ad hoc judgments of how prominent the older logo is, whether it's on the top or the bottom or bigger or smaller or what color they use? I also notice that [[Return of Convoy]] was ''not'' re-disambigged into G1, even though the packaging for [[Grandus (ROC)]] has the same "Fight! etc" livery and proportions as the other JG1 lines. If next week two people started to agitate for BW to get re-tagged as G1 because of the instruction font precedent, our only argument against that would be "No, we like BW too much for that" (but don't worry, we wouldn't be expected to reclassify Beast Machines, because that didn't use the late-G1 font. So Obsidian stays within Beasts, but Blackarachnia doesn't, it's easy to remember, surely friendly to new users....) This was not carefully reasoned through, and anything done by an automated script can be undone the same way. By rights people should have to make a tight and comprehensive argument both of why this change would improve the wiki and why it definitely won't reclassify other long-recognized franchises into mere sublines of G1 that now just get called G1.

::::(EDIT - moving the Overlord/Darksteel point to the end. It seems nearly all of the TF:Prime:Beast Hunters line were clearly designated as such ''except'' for Darksteel and some other Target dudes who were just TF:Beast Hunters. Really don't think people want to argue for dissolving a half-dozen long-recognized franchises because of that. That is literally the opposite of what "exception" means.--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 10:04, 22 September 2021 (EDT)
:::::For what it's worth, ''Return of Convoy'' was the only real line to branch out from the JG1 toyline, even if just a little. Everything before that was ''strictly'' F!SRLT, with sub-branding used for specific cases (e.g. ''The Headmasters'' for Headmaster characters, including the ones from the Masterforce cartoon, ''Targetmaster'' was used for Targetmaster characters, ''Seacons'' for the Seacons, etc, etc). ''Scramble City'' was the only exception to this, with it being used for Metroplex, Trypticon, Ultra Magnus and Galvatron, instead of just the combiners. ''Super-God Masterforce'', ''Victory'' and ''Zone'' were titles that were never used in the toyline at all. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 10:24, 22 September 2021 (EDT)
::::::I second Thylacine's proposal to include the ROC guys in the move to G1. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 10:26, 22 September 2021 (EDT)
:::::::Oh, I wasn't against a move for the ROC guys to G1, just pointing out the weird branding that was JG1. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 10:29, 22 September 2021 (EDT)
::::::::nobody actually do that for at least 20 seconds --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 10:43, 22 September 2021 (EDT)
:::::::::I didn't move the ROC guys because I forgot about them, not because of any particular reasoning. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 12:17, 22 September 2021 (EDT)
::::::::::Thank you for making that clear. So we are left without the sub-brand / logo issue altogether, back at square one. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 12:57, 22 September 2021 (EDT)
:::::::::::Are we? If the toylines don't have any mention of Masterforce, Victory, Zone et al, that feels like strong evidence for those franchises being part of G1 in Japan, exactly like Beast Hunters. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like your main point of objection is "well, we've always done it like this"... but that was because Western fandom was previously ''unaware'' that JG1 was all one large toyline. I don't think the idea is to change the disambigs while changing nothing else about our coverage; we should probably update ''all'' of the way we cover these sub-series rather than treating them as their own full franchises like we currently do. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 13:35, 22 September 2021 (EDT)
::::::::::::''Popping in out of sequence to say, for future readers, that here is where someone should have doublechecked the assertions that "the toylines don't mention Masterforce, Victory, etc.," and "the toyline only says F!SRLT plus the gimmick subline like Targetmasters." Because it turns out, the Masterforce, Victory, and Zone boxes '''totally do''' say Masterforce, Victory, and Zone on them. I regret that this was not done until several days later.'' --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 16:06, 25 September 2021 (EDT)

::::::::::::Because the ROC thing undermines that. If the other JG1 lines have no unique logos specifically on the boxes and instructions, and that's why they were merged into one big thing, then we've now been told several times that ROC does have those but the person who made the merge only left them out of the merge purely by accident and several pro-mergers are saying ROC should also be merged now. It looks like there isn't clear agreement on what the grounds for inclusion are. I am not against changing "what we've always done" as a matter of pure principle, but treating all of those series the way we treat subline imprints pretty radically changes the meaning of that concept. There are no other sublines (i.e. Powerlinx Battles, Primus Unleashed) that have completely separate storylines, settings, and casts. We'd surely have to keep their write-ups separate anyway, just as we do with the many many Optimus Primes that Hasbro considers to be all the same guy. What is the benefit of the change, to us and our readers? And if we ''are'' including ROC with the logo that was supposedly of equal importance that maybe it shouldn't be included but nevermind, why doesn't this suck in G2 and BW? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 14:55, 22 September 2021 (EDT)
:::::::::::::I actually think that it's debatable whether ROC should be included, same as with Operation Combination. I will note that G2 is "Transformers: G-2" and BW is "Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers"; neither has the "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers" branding that was given to the entire rest of JG1, which firmly delineates them as separate from the original line. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 15:06, 22 September 2021 (EDT)
::::::::::::::Should have been clearer: my concern is about G2/BW disambigs being tipped into USG1, which would become in-bounds if the supposedly important distinct-toy-branding-of-ROC-keeping-it-out-of-JG1 was decided not to matter anymore. If we're making these judgments based on the level of labeling that makes something a distinct franchise, we need to be consistent. Can we at least agree on that guardrail? I'm still not embracing it - we all know Masterforce et al have their own very distinct logos that we would continue to display - but at least can understand it. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 15:29, 22 September 2021 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::Note that several Return of Convoy Autobot Micromasters also share the same names as their G1 Decepticon Micromaster counterparts, so many of those won't be receiving the "(G1)" tag anyway. But nonetheless, all of those toys were still sold under the "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers" toyline logo. The secondary "Return of Convoy" logo they had was no different that the other secondary logos had by previous FSRLTF toys, such as "Scramble City", "The Headmasters", "Targetmaster", and "Godmaster". Thy, it really seems you're only harping on this because you can't grasp the idea that one toyline had five different cartoons in Japan (and another single toyline later had four different cartoons), when the idea of one show per cartoon has only been a thing in Hasbro's markets; a concept that Japan was never beholden to. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 16:14, 22 September 2021 (EDT)
::::::::::::::::Specifically, the only ROC characters that would be moved are Sky Garry and Grandus. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 17:34, 22 September 2021 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::::By my read - and please tell me if I got this wrong - Fanofcoolstuff says ROC is distinctive enough that it wouldn't be merged into G1, Riptide says it's a real debate and probably shouldn't merge, Saix said it would have been merged but got left out by accident, and Sabrblade says it's not so distinct after all and "nonetheless" will at least partially merge. And that was all in one day. To be very clear, I don't care about ROC. This is probably the longest conversation about ROC in world history. But since a whole shitton of stuff just got G1-ified, whatever can prevent that suddenly got very important! My point all along has been that if having a distinct-ish logo and storyline can still see a series get disambig merged one level up, then G2 and BW can be disambigged as G1 and we don't really have anything stopping that from happening except personal favoritism. Someone could ask next week "why NOT re-disambig G2 as G1?" and just from today's conversation I really do not see how we would have an answer. What, is the G2 toyline or cartoon more distinct from G1 than Victory was? We need a clear consistent disambig system that we can explain to newcomers under which Victory is G1 now and Beast Wars Neo is BW now but G2 and BW cannot be turned into G1 now. Do we have that system now? If so, what is it based on? If you think it's at all self-evident, it isn't. Maybe I ''can't'' grasp it - but if that's the case, I am not so special that I would expect to be the only one. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 18:16, 22 September 2021 (EDT)
::::::::::::::::::This is all a fair point, and I am sincerely glad for the dissenting opinion! I guess the question is "at what point does the Generation 1 "franchise" stop being a franchise"? In Japan, at least, I would argue that the answer to that question is "when they stopped using Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers"; that seems like the clearest delineation, given that that puts it at the same place we consider to be the dividing line in the US (between the Micromasters and G2). If we consider FSRLTF to be the Japanese name for the G1 franchise, just like "Micron Legend" is to Armada and "Adventure" is to RID15, then there's a clear divider that means G2 and BW can't be considered part of it. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 18:39, 22 September 2021 (EDT)
::::::::::::::::::: I freely admit that I wasn't entirely convinced at first, but after considering the issue for a few days I've ultimately decided that this consolidation is the right move. When the wiki was still taking shape in the late 2000s, individual franchise components were still very insular--chopped up, sequestered away, and written under the assumption that characters and concepts would likely never be revisited in any meaningful way, or backported into American ''Transformers'' culture. Look at [[Deathsaurus (G1)|Deathsaurus]]'s article for a good example of this: not just ''Victory'', but also ''Zone'', Dreamwave, ''Timelines'', ''Wings Universe'', two IDW universes, and even a random cameo in the original Marvel timeline thanks to TF '84. It seems weird to disambiguate by his franchise of origin when almost 64% of the headers in his page have nothing to do with ''Victory'', or even Japanese G1 at all! We don't, for instance, disambiguate [[Windblade (G1)]] by "Windblade (IDW)", even though here's arguably ''more'' instance to do so, particularly when it comes to the hordes of continuity-transplanted characters who keep showing up in stuff like IDW2 and the crossover comics.
::::::::::::::::::: We all know that Hasbro and its licensees don't view ''Transformers'' canon and continuity the same way we do, and this has led to an increasing amount of bleed between different stories--between stuff like IDW's ongoing comic stories freely pulling from whatever catches their fancy, and FunPub stuff like Beast Wars Uprising and AVP, I think that this debate ''should'' probably go beyond the intricacies of packaging minutiae... but, well, now I feel like I'm conflating these two separate proposals together, so for the time being I think that reorganizing the JG1 characters like this is a good thing.[[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 18:49, 22 September 2021 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::::::: It's also worth noting that the [[List of Japanese ID numbers#Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers|ID numbers]] for the toys keep counting up all the way through Return of Convoy, furthering the argument that these are all part of one larger toyline. [[List of Japanese ID numbers#Beast Wars|Same with Beast Wars]]. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 19:00, 22 September 2021 (EDT)
::::::::::::::::::Thy, you keep confusing "G1" the toyline (known in Japan as "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers") with "G1" the continuity family. G2 and BW are part of the latter, yes, but both are ''not'' part of the former. And "Return of Convoy" is basically a [[subline imprint]], like what "The Unicron Battles" was for Armada. It's the same toyline with just an extra logo. And as Cyberlink says above, it continues the same ID numbering system as the rest of the FSRLTF line. G2 and BW were both separate toylines from G1 in both Japan and in Hasbro's markets. For Japan, neither were "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: G-2" or "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars", they were just "Transformers: G-2" and "Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers" (losing both the "Fight!" and "Robot" parts of the FSRLTF title, even). And each even used a separate ID numbering system from that of FSRLTF. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 01:45, 23 September 2021 (EDT)
::I just want to make it clear AGAIN that I was never against the move of (ROC) to (G1). I was just simply pointing out how the packaging is ''slightly'' different. I apologize if I made that unclear. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 19:28, 22 September 2021 (EDT)
I want to apologize for igniting this whole thing. My Sunday boredom and rush to get things done got the best of me, and I'm sorry. If it's decided to revert my moves, I'm fully willing to undo all of my edits, when I can get the time. (Sorry for the late reply, I'm very busy with irl stuff for this week and the next.) [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 17:22, 21 September 2021 (EDT)
::I realize most of the conversation was around the JG1 disambig, but I really don't like the suggestion to collapse the other Japanese line disambigs into the US lines. Using Adventure as an example, Cosmos was released in Adventure — he's not an RiD character, having no presence in the RiD version of the line. I know we tend to lean on the US version of things as the source of truth, but this to me feels like it implies something that isn't true. [[User:Spectre|Spectre]] ([[User talk:Spectre|talk]]) 20:41, 22 September 2021 (EDT)
:::Maybe that's the case, but to most users (MD), (SL) and such are going to not mean anything. ''Broadly'' speaking, the "[[Heavy Metal (Energon)]]" is accurate in that the character came from the Japanese counterpart to the Energon line; when you open the page itself it'll explain the specifics of the character's origin more clearly. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 13:39, 23 September 2021 (EDT)
:It's been discovered that, despite the ID numbers restarting, none of the Operation Combination toys actually have an "Operation Combination" logo, just the standard "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers" logo used by every phase of the line before it. And that the Return of Convoy toys all still have the same "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers" logo while the secondary "Return of Convoy" logo does not have its own separate "Transformers" part, meaning that that logo is not "Transformers: Return of Convoy" but simply "Return of Convoy". Though, none of the ROC Micromasters can be moved to G1 since that tag is already used by their Hasbro Decepticon counterparts, so it would just be Grandus and Sky Garry. Out of all the Operation Combination toys, only six of them currently use the "(OC)" tag: Sandstorm, Falcon, Circuit, Discharge, Glide, and Windy. And of those six, only the latter three would be moved to "(G1)" since the former three share names with other G1 characters. And I really can't see anyone raising a fuss over Discharge, Glide, and Windy using the "(G1)" tag. Also, Scrash uses "(OC)" since there is an Animated Scrash, but again, no sane person would complain about him becoming "Scrash (G1)". --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 13:14, 24 September 2021 (EDT)
::On that note, as part of this, I think we should consider merging the ROC Micromasters back into their Hasbro counterparts' pages, as they have no independent fiction and are 100% identical to the Hasbro releases save for the faction symbol on their boxes. Nothing says we can't chalk this up to "it's the same guy but they're an Autobot in JG1". -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 13:39, 24 September 2021 (EDT)
:::Feels quite sensible. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 14:17, 24 September 2021 (EDT)
:::Also we should move all the JG1 series to "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Whatever", since they all include it as part of the title and we're currently ''very'' inconsistent in its usage. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 17:21, 24 September 2021 (EDT)
::So just to be absolutely clear about what we've determined here, One: The graphic we had listed as the Return of Convoy logo is in truth a modifier on the classic F!SRLT logo in the style of the rest of JG1; Two: ''the original, solo Fight! Super Lifeform Transformer logo continues to appear on toy packaging through Return of Convoy and Operation Combination.'' Operation Combination is the last line where this occurs and can be considered the definitive end of the original F!SRLT branding. Hope this helps clear things up. -[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 13:57, 24 September 2021 (EDT)
:::It would make since to consider everything before G2; G1. -[[User:DDog|DDog]] ([[User talk:DDog|talk]]) 14:37, 24 September 2021 (EDT)
::::I have made some new discoveries on the matter. The FSRLTF, 2010, and Victory cartoons all used the FSRL text in their title logos, while The Headmasters, Masterforce, and Zone do not. Meanwhile, in the next-episode previews for The Headmasters, Masterforce, and Victory, all three omit the FSRL text from their series names in the narration, only calling themselves "Transformers: The Headmasters", "Transformers: Chojin Masterforce", and "Transformers: Victory". Likewise, Zone does not have any FSRL text in either its title logo or its theme song lyrics (just "Transformers: Zone"), but its DVD bonus features do have FSRL text added to the Zone logo. Meanwhile, the Japanese dub of BW refers to itself as "Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers" in both its title logo and theme song lyrics, but just "Beast Wars" in its next-episode previews. BWII's logo reads "Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers", but its next-episode previews consistently call it "Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars II". Likewise, Neo is called "Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo" in both its title logo and next-episode previews. Metals is "Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Metals" in its title logo, but just "Beast Wars Metals" in the next-episode previews. The first Metals movie is "Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers - Metals" in its logo, but the characters shout "Beast Wars: Metals". Likewise, the second Metals movie is "Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers - Metals - Convoy Daihenshin!" in its logo, but the characters shout "Beast Wars: Metals - Convoy Daihenshin!" And finally, Returns is "Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Returns" in its logo while the characters just say "Beast Wars Returns". So, while logos vary, the only shows to actually speak either the FSRL or SRL text are just BWII and Neo (and technically BW but only in its theme song). Meaning that while the franchises are "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers" (nicknamed "Transformers" for short) and "Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers" (nicknamed "Beast Wars" for short), not all of these shows are necessarily beholden to using the full titles of each franchise along with each respective subheading. So we needn't necessarily have to move Transformers: The Headmasters et al to "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: The Headmasters" et al. If anything, I'd suggest just leaving out the FSRL text from every JG1 series after 2010, since none of them used it to refer to themselves verbally. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 01:09, 25 September 2021 (EDT)
Did no one look at the back of these JG1/JBW boxes? Because the murals on the back of Masterforce, Victory, and Zone boxes plainly do have the unique Masterforce, Victory, and Zone franchise logos. The stuff repeatedly said to not be on toy product actually is very much there. So, uhhh....--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 15:16, 25 September 2021 (EDT)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6Qu8NMnPbX0/U9FNiQT6Z3I/AAAAAAAADxs/c1n1Srl37po/s1600/20140706_125112.jpg
https://tfsource.com/products/view/product_id/1659/
:The back of Overlord's box says Masterforce in Japanese AND English! --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 15:31, 25 September 2021 (EDT)
::That...really doesn't change the fact that the original F!SRLFT logo is still very much front and center on the box. Nor the continued ID numbers between all the lines. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 16:15, 25 September 2021 (EDT)
:::It changes the assertion made about 6 times by multiple merge advocates - and in the "Summary and Vote" section below until it was just struck out a second ago - that there wasn't any unique branding on the toy product and we've only been treating the toylines as separate because of old assumptions and inertia. I will grant that the ID numbers are a piece of evidence in favor of a merge, but it now looks like that's the only one left. Are we going to make a change this big over a checklist? When this merge was already made, was it made based on believing something that isn't true? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 16:29, 25 September 2021 (EDT)
::::Not really. Honestly, it doesn't change much; seems like it's no different a case than 2010, which had the normal logo on the front and the 2010 logo on the back. And we acknowledge that as a subline of G1 while still giving it a franchise page; should the vote pass, the other series would be treated exactly the same. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 16:35, 25 September 2021 (EDT)

:::: I'm comfortable with my vote. I don't think a tiny logo on the back smaller than the team logo is that big a deal. If anything it reinforces the idea of how messy and subjective what constitutes a franchise is. Maybe others might feel differently and change their vote. We'll see.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 16:38, 25 September 2021 (EDT)

:::: I absolutely believe that a logo on the ''back'' of the toy packaging does not outrank the main logo on the front. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 16:55, 25 September 2021 (EDT)
:::::Thinking more about this, the notion of the "media logos" (as I'll call them) being on the back of the boxes doesn't strike me as being all that different from when the original 2010-2011 Transformers: Generations line had secondary "Transformers: War for Cybertron" media logos on its packaging for the figures based on the designs from that video game. In those cases, the media logo was there to say "Hey, the specific Generations figures bearing this second logo represent characters that are also featured in the video game that this other logo is advertising." But it did ''not'' mean that the toys featuring that logo were suddenly part of a toyline named "Transformers: War For Cybertron" or even "Transformers: Generations - War For Cybertron". It just meant that certain toys sold in the "Transformers: Generations" toyline represented characters featured in a contemporary video game called "Transformers: War For Cybertron". Likewise, the media logos on the back of the FSRLTF toys indicated which FSRLTF toys were affiliated with which cartoon and manga of each media logo belonged to. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 18:47, 25 September 2021 (EDT)
::::It's the same kind of thing we've most recently seen in the Cyberverse toyline. There the main franchise named remained "Cyberverse", with added imprints like "Bumblebee: Cyberverse Adventures" or "Dinobot Adventures". The additional logos alongside F!SRLT just denote the subline of that year, like the aforementioned Cyberverse or the three lines within the War for Cybertron Trilogy franchise. --[[User:McBaggins|McBaggins]] ([[User talk:McBaggins|talk]]) 01:30, 26 September 2021 (EDT)
:::::More findings. I just did a binge-watching of almost every Japanese G1 toy commercial that we have covered in our [[Commercial/Japan]] article, and have observed that not every year's commercials actually used the secondary logos for each series. The 1985 and 1986 commercials all use just the standard FSRLTF logo, with the 1986 commercials also using the Scramble City logo for the specific toys that logo pertains to. By 1987, the FSRLTF logo just becomes a standard "Transformers" logo without the FSRL text, with only one 1987 commercial actually using The Headmasters logo (that being the specific Headmasters toy commercial, but not the Fort Max and Scorponok commercial), and none of the 1988 ones using the Masterforce logo. 1989 and 1990, however, DO use the Victory and Zone logos, respectively, while in 1991, only the Sky Garry and Grandus commercials use the Return of Convoy logo while the Star Convoy (ironically) and Sixliner ones do not. The 1992 Sixtrain commercial, meanwhile, goes back to only using the "Transformers" logo. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 09:20, 26 September 2021 (EDT)

Is there a reason why Operation Combination is not included in our own very long FSLRT toyline page, when our OC toyline page says it's part of FSLRT?
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Fight!_Super_Robot_Lifeform_Transformers_(toyline)
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Fight!_Super_Robot_Lifeform_Transformers:_Operation_Combination_(toyline)
For the record, here are OC boxes front and back: http://heroicdecepticon.blogspot.com/2012/02/transformers-operation-combination-tf.html?m=1
--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 08:23, 2 October 2021 (EDT)
:It's funny you mention this as a discussion was brought up earlier lol. I think it is safe to fold into the JG1 page. It pretty much follows the other sublines, with only the ID numbers setting it apart from the rest. We have reason to believe that it was probably forgotten about during the merge of the other pages a few years ago. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 08:51, 2 October 2021 (EDT)
::It's leftover from before the big FSRLTF page was compiled together. It was initially left out because its renumbered ID system confused us into thinking it was a separate thing. But the recent discovery that its toy packaging never used any other logo has reopened talk of reincorporating it. Thy, if there are still things related to these talks that are still unchanged right now, it doesn't mean we're deliberately leaving them alone. It means that nothing has been done about them '''''yet''''' as these talks and votes are still ongoing. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 10:37, 2 October 2021 (EDT)

===Summary of discussion and vote===
So I'm going to summarise all the information as clearly as I can for everyone to vote on. For clarity I will be referring to the Japanese G1 franchise as "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers" to distinguish it from "Generation 1" as a more general concept.

'''The "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers" toyline is unambiguously a single, cohesive toyline.''' Rather than being split into separate lines for each cartoon, it uses specific brandings for different subgroups like Headmasters and Godmasters, akin to the Micro Transformers logo on G1 Micromaster toys. <s>The one exception to this is Return of Convoy, which has its own co-branded logo, but the "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers" logo is still on the packaging regardless.</s> CLARIFICATION: '''The series logos ''are'' on the packaging, but only on the back, with the exception of Return of Convoy.''' The toy numbering remains consistent up through Return of Convoy before being reset for Operation Combination, but even then the toy packaging didn't actually carry any Operation Combination logos.

Regarding tie-in media, '''the cartoons are packaged individually with their own titles''', though it's worth noting that this also applies to "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers 2010" (G1 season 3). The manga were also given their individual series' branding (apart from 2010 and Return of Convoy), but were collected as "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: The Comics". While the in-series Headmasters and Masterforce title cards don't use "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform", supplementary material for the cartoons does.

If the "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers" title is treated as the distinguishing factor, '''there is no risk of G2 or Beast Wars also being subsumed.''' Generation 2 was sold in Japan as "Transformers: G-2", while Beast Wars was "Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers".

Lastly, '''all of this also applies to "Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers"'''. Just replace "Victory" and "Masterforce" with "BWII" and "Neo", "2010" with "Metals", and "G-2" with "Car Robots".

With all this taken into account, there seem to be two possible ways to take this:

* '''Keep viewing each of these brandings as their own full-fledged franchise.''' While the toyline does not carry any franchise branding, it can be covered as a single toyline covering multiple franchises; the fact that each year's branding was used across multiple pieces of fiction means it should be treated as the mark of a full franchise.
* '''Treat "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers" and "Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers" as each being a single franchise, with the individual yearly brandings as subsets of these lines.''' This seems to be how they are considered in Japan: individual components of a single overarching line. The shared branding across fiction is no different to how the "Beast Hunters" branding is shared by [[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)#Season 3: Beast Hunters|''Prime'' Season 3]] and [[Transformers Prime: Beast Hunters (comic)|the IDW comic]].

Please cast your votes below. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 21:32, 24 September 2021 (EDT)

* I vote for '''option two'''. [[User:McBaggins|McBaggins]] ([[User talk:McBaggins|talk]]) 21:35, 24 September 2021 (EDT)
* I vote for '''Option two''' as well. [[User:MrRald|MrRald]] ([[User talk:MrRald|talk]]) 21:37, 24 September 2021 (EDT)
* '''2'''. [[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 21:38, 24 September 2021 (EDT)
* Definitely leaning towards '''Option 2'''. F!SRLF appears on all the toy packaging, and the ID numbers continue on from one another. It's clear Takara thought of them as one franchise. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 21:44, 24 September 2021 (EDT)
* '''Option 2''' seems the most sensible given the information presented. -[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 21:46, 24 September 2021 (EDT)
* '''Option 2''' [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 22:01, 24 September 2021 (EDT)
* '''Option 2'''. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 22:30, 24 September 2021 (EDT)
* '''Option 2''' -- [[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 23:10, 24 September 2021 (EDT)
* '''Option 2'''. Each is one franchise with mutliple cartoons (I've posted some new findings above) --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 01:09, 25 September 2021 (EDT)
* '''Option 2''' -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 04:39, 25 September 2021 (EDT)
* I'm also going with '''option 2'''. The fact that the series logos are on the backs of the toy packaging is arguably more evidence that we should treat them as we do other subline imprints, in my view. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 16:18, 25 September 2021 (EDT)
* '''Option 2''' [[User:Notsoalex|--notsoalex]] ([[User talk:Notsoalex|talk]]) 16:41, 25 September 2021 (EDT)
* '''2''', if we're going by the wiki's pre-established rules of (generally) adhering to logos on packaging and instructions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 15:45, 26 September 2021 (EDT)
* '''Option 1''', though that's more of a gut feeling.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore|talk]]) 18:18, 26 September 2021 (EDT)
* '''Option 1'''. "There are no logos" became "Logos on the back don't count" a bit too quickly for my comfort. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 19:17, 26 September 2021 (EDT)
* '''Option 1'''. I'm uncomfortable with the combination of being extremely literal in one regard — "All JG1 is a single line known as Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers" — while using fuzzy terminology in another — "Generation 1 refers to everything pre-G2 in all territories". I feel like this decision was made hastily and the proposal is not balancing accuracy and clarity in a thoughtful enough way for me at this stage. -- [[User:Spectre|Spectre]] ([[User talk:Spectre|talk]]) 15:56, 28 September 2021 (EDT)
* '''Option 2''', but not for the stated reasons. Standards for naming pages should be based on accessibility to new visitors, not satisfying the most technically accurate organizational scheme devised by older visitors. Some new fan who enjoys modern stories about Deathsaurus, Overlord, or Star Saber isn't going to understand what (Victory) or (Masterforce) is compared to (G1). But they're also not going to understand "''It's at (G1) instead of (Victory) because we analyzed 30y old box art captions in a foreign language to satisfy ourselves about the change.''" We don't need to twist ourselves into knots to justify this move on technicalities while also finding reasons not to do it for (BW) while still claiming to be internally consistent...*inhale*...if we just say, "''We're doing this to be more accessible.''" Boom, done. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 09:49, 29 September 2021 (EDT)
*'''Option 2'''--[[User:ZacAttack|ZacAttack]] ([[User talk:ZacAttack|talk]]) 04:28, 3 October 2021 (EDT)
*'''Option Two'''. Reducing the number of disambig parentheses is useful here. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 12:29, 4 October 2021 (EDT)

Okay, the vote's been running for two weeks now, so we're probably gonna wind it down soon. If anyone's got any last minute votes or thoughts, now's the time to add them. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 00:47, 9 October 2021 (EDT)

== Disambigs for TM2 characters ==

While we're still on the topic of page moves and titles and what not, I figured I should bring up these two cases that have bugged me for a while now.

I personally feel that we should move "[[Dinobot II]]" and "[[Prowl II]]" to "Dinobot (TM2)" and "Prowl (TM2)", respectively. These two were not given the Roman numeral suffix things (for lack of a better term) until the IDW Beast Wars Sourcebooks which were written what, 10 or so years after the fact?

Both the toy packaging for the pair and their bios never gave them that title and I'm pretty sure Dinobot was never called "Dinobot II" in the BW cartoon (granted, I haven't watched it in about 2 years, so I could be wrong). It just feels incredibly weird that we're naming these two after the Sourcebook names and not their original names.

[[User:MrRald|MrRald]] had also brought up on Discord that the fiction surrounding Prowl II and Prowl (TM2) should be split, but I personally think that we should keep them together as it's the same character, just with a different origin, which is no different to say any G1 character between Marvel, IDW and the cartoon, etc. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 22:41, 19 September 2021 (EDT)
:I agree with this change because the use of Dinobot II and Prowl II in the titles gives the wrong idea that these names have been used much more often than they actually have. Also there's always the possibility that someone will use those names in an official capacity just because they saw them on this wiki, and I think that's something we should try to avoid. --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 00:02, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
::The Sourcebook didn't even use the "II" in anything outside of the page titles and the Credits Index. Not in any of the biographical information for any of the "II" characters. In fact, the Credits Index goes the extra mile of placing each "II" inside a set of parentheses like "(II)", as if to say "These are each the second character listed with a shared name, but the 'II' isn't actually part of their names." --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 00:48, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
:Prowl-II-the-owl-and-Binaltec-car was such a chore to put together, the only thing worse would be finding a way to take it apart - and both halves would need to refer to one another so much they would take up more space and cause more confusion than the single article currently is. Let's leave it alone. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 09:52, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
::Yeah, as stated above I'm personally not for a split. I think MrRald also has plans on bringing it up on the talk page itself, so I'll leave that discussion more up to him to bring up. But what's your thoughts on the moves to "(TM2)"? -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 11:35, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
:::Are either "Dinobot II" or "Prowl II" canonically-published names, or are they convenient shorthand this wiki made up? [[Beast Wars Universe]] says "TM2 Dinobot", the [[BotCon 2002]] postcard set says "Dinobot (Transmetal 2)". I don't own BW Sourcebook. In general I side with names that are official (even if obscure) over those we made up. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 13:03, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
::::They were used officially, but only in the Sourcebooks for the most part. In Prowl's case, the Sourcebook use was kinda pseudo-retconned into being the JG1 version of the character, with AVP building onto the story and solidifying him as part of the Binaltech stuff. But other than that, both prowl and Dinobot have appeared in more pieces of fiction without the "II" in the name. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 13:30, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
:::::Turns out "Dinobot II" was used in Earth Wars. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 17:52, 20 September 2021 (EDT)
:::::Before Dinobot II with the Roman Numeral in the Sourcebook, Dinobot 2 was used in the Dreamwave Summer Special title page for "Ain't no Rat." --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 13:10, 23 September 2021 (EDT)
After a lot of thinking and research, I think Prowl II should be moved to Prowl (Transmetal 2) to fit with the system used for Prowl (Magnaboss) and Silverbolt (Fuzor). The name Prowl II has been proved to be non diegetic and the Binaltech body is called Prowl 2 (possibly a callback to the Spychanger who used to be on the same article as the owl). As for the contents of the actual article I changed my mind on any need for splitting. I'd just make the chip chase Prowl fiction more self contained and I have a sandbox as proof of concept. [[User:MrRald|MrRald]] ([[User talk:MrRald|talk]]) 11:55, 9 October 2021 (EDT)
:I agree with moving them to disambigs. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:14, 9 October 2021 (EDT)
::I'm all in for more accessible disambigs over anal "this name with a hyphen was only used once and thus requires no disambig" nonsense.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore|talk]]) 18:07, 9 October 2021 (EDT)
:::"(TM2)" for both of these gets my vote. It's simple and eliminates the space in the middle of the tag. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 18:14, 9 October 2021 (EDT)
:::: TM2 for Prowl is fine, but Dinobot II is an official name used more than once and it's... also what people call him, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 18:42, 9 October 2021 (EDT)
:::::Isn't that only in Earth Wars, though? And it really wouldn't surprise me if Furman mainly did that because of our calling him "Dinobot II" in the first place. If that's the case, then shouldn't his original name in his primary media appearance(s) supersede later-given renames/nicknames in less prominent media? To use a bigger example, Hasbro has officially switched G1 Slag's name to Slug, but we don't use that name as the article's name because of the original media history wherein his name was Slag. TM2 Dinobot was always just "Dinobot" until Earth Wars. Dreamwave's description and the Sourcebook's page header were never diegetic. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 00:56, 10 October 2021 (EDT)

Alright, here are the fictional appearances of both characters that I know of and what name they are referred to by:
{|width=100%
|valign=top|
*'''Dinobot:'''
**Toyline/toy packaging/bio = "Dinobot"
**BW cartoon = "Dinobot"
**3H comics = "Dinobot"
**Dreamwave = "Dinobot 2"
**IDW BW 2006 = "Dinobot II"
**Battle Tactics = "Dinobot Transmetal II"
**Earth Wars = "Dinobot II"
:'''Total:''' "Dinobot" = '''2''', "Dinobot II" = '''2''', "Dinobot Transmetal 2" = '''1''', "Dinobot 2" = '''1'''
|valign=top|
*'''Prowl:'''
**Toyline/toy packaging/bio = "Prowl"
**JG1 = "Prowl 2" (Binaltech), "Prowl II" (Ask Vector Prime)
**IDW BW 2006 = "Prowl II" (BW Sourcebook only), "Prowl" (comic itself)
**TransTech = "Prowl"
**IDW1 = unnamed cameo
:'''Total:''' "Prowl" = '''3''', "Prowl II" = '''2''', "Prowl 2" = '''1'''
|}

I also want to make note that, based on some digging that Nevermore and MrRald did earlier today, it seems the original Japanese transcript for the Binaltech fiction uses "プロール2" (aka "Prowl 2") rather than "Prowl II", which leads to a bit of inconsistency when the AVP entry and the Binaltech story are supposed to be set in the same universe. However, I'm under the impression that the name was changed to "Prowl II" to not confuse him with the RID01 [[Prowl 2]] that was established as a Binaltech duplicate in the [[Source:Ask Vector Prime/Facebook#September 10, 2015|same AVP entry]]. ''But'' then again, Ichikawa was also building off of the BW Sourcebook bio for the character in the AVP entry which used "Prowl II", so that could have also been a mistake. ''Also'' keep in mind that the BW Sourcebook bio for Prowl was ''very'' loosely based on the Binaltech fiction (or at least it seems like it). I don't know about you, but my head hurts now. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 04:17, 10 October 2021 (EDT)
:A few things to note about these findings. First, Dreamwave's use of "Dinobot 2" and the Sourcebook's use of "Dinobot II" were never diegetic. The Sourcebook just called him "Dinobot" in the biographical text of his profile, and the Credits Index labeled him as "Dinobot (II)" to denote that the "II" isn't actually part of his name. Earth Wars is the only thing to use it as such, and it came years and years after the fact.
:Second, the "Prowl 2" name given in the System Description for the Binaltech toy does not refer to the name of the character but to the physical body unit built by Honda that Prowl's soul was to inhabit. It was designated "Prowl 2" because it was created to be a duplicate body for Prowl to use with the GT System in addition to his normal body (until the accident that destroyed his original body changed those plans and forced the duplicate body to be the primary, but I digress). When referring to the character personally, the toy's profile, System Description, and Story of Binaltech chapter all just refer to him as "Prowl". Looking at the AVP answer, its use of "Prowl II" to refer to the character reads as if the writer (be it Jim, Ichikawa, or both) was under the misinformed impression at the tie that the owl Maximal was literally named "Prowl II" diegetically in IDW's 2006 BW comics, which he wasn't. He too was just "Prowl".
:Like Dinobot, the use of "Prowl II" by the Sourcebook was only in the page header for encyclopedic disambiguation, and was likewise labeled as "Prowl (II)" in the Credits Index to say that the "II" was never part of that Prowl's actual given name. Our Wiki article at the time merely gave the misinformed impression that it was, likely leading to the specific wording of the AVP answer. In other words, these numbered names really don't have much leg to stand on. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 08:50, 10 October 2021 (EDT)

== So, about 1995 Generation 2... ==
At the risk of opening yer another can of worms, what about the 1995 figures? In the United States and Canada, the packaging had dropped the "Generation 2" branding by that point, though the European releases were still "Generation 2".--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore|talk]]) 04:51, 27 September 2021 (EDT)
:Feels like if Europe was still branding them as G2, and everyone else was just not branding them at all, they'd still be G2. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 12:45, 28 September 2021 (EDT)
::The real problem is the 1993 European releases with G2 faction symbols but not the G2 logo. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 13:23, 28 September 2021 (EDT)

== Toys used as Props ==

There's been discussion on the Discord about noting the use of Transformers toys as props in various movies. I think it's absolutely noteworthy to add when they are physical props, along the line of Starscream in ''Top Gun'' or Shockwave in ''Aliens''; they're using the physical toys in a real world sense as part of film production, similar to our note on Grimlock's toy page about his toy being in the British Museum. We've already got it on certain pages like ''Spaceballs'' because they are mentioned in fiction, but it think if we're going to do it, it should be an all or nothing thing. Something along the lines of this: ""Optimus Prime's toy was used in the movies Chuck Goes to McDonalds, Death God 2: Payback's a Bitch, and Larry the Donkey, and the television shows CSI: Berlin and Darla's Mystery Shop."

'''PUTTING THIS HERE BECAUSE I KNOW IT"S GONNA COME UP: I am specifically talking only through a real-world perspective of usage of props. Any discussion of in-fiction use is entirely irrelevant to me. If it's animated, I don't want it added.''' [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 16:32, 5 October 2021 (EDT)
: This feels like something that would be easily abused by users looking for an excuse to add even the slightest mention of something peripherally related to Transformers to the wiki, and would lead down a slippery slope to our notes and trivia sections becoming absolutely bloated like the average Wikia. Strong oppose. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 16:36, 5 October 2021 (EDT)
:: The thing is we already have people bloating notes sections as is. I think worrying about any potential negative outcome actively hurts what we're capable of. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 16:42, 5 October 2021 (EDT)
:::We have been deliberately avoiding "Razorbeast was in ''Fresh Prince'' and Beast Megatron was in ''Knock-Off'' and RID Megatron was in ''Sex and the City''" since day-1 of this wiki. I think it's mildly interesting to include cases where the TF toys are "hidden" within a fictional world - such as Shockwave in ''Aliens'', or Movie Bonecrusher on that CNN demonstration of how minesweepers work, precisely because they ''aren't supposed to be Transformers,'' they are supposed to be something else. But a notation of "such-and-such show had a character playing with a Transformer because Transformers are cool," ugh, no, heavy no. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 16:51, 5 October 2021 (EDT)
::::I'm on Thy's side here. Fun little trivial facts about a ''Transformers''/''Transformers''-related producted being repurposed as some weird thing in the background of a movie is always an interesting thing to note. However, if it is something like a kid holding a toy in the background of one episode of a show or in a movie, that's when our notes section would get overly bloated with pointless facts. On the ''Spaceballs'' note though, the colouring book and lunchbox fit as a repurposing of a product in a movie since they clearly just plastered on a sticker over an official ''Transformers'' logo to pass it off as something else in the context of their film. That doesn't mean I'm for noting the use of a G1 Starscream in ''Topgun'' because of the theory that "in the movie's context it's just a jet toy" when there is no real proof of this. Unless it is blatantly obvious that it is being used as something that was not its intended purpose, then I feel it shouldn't be documented on this wiki.

::::I did have another idea for those who might feel strongly about listing toy appearances in other media outside of ''Transformers'': What if we made a page similar to "[[Popular Earth vehicle alternate modes]]" that just compiles together a bunch of appearances from over the years where a random ''Transformers'' product/toy is being used as a prop for a kid to play with? We could list all of the most popular ones together like G1 Prime under a "Generation 1 Optimus Prime" header and then any odd cases like RID01 Megatron in ''Sex and the City'' where only a single use of a figure is shown can just be placed under a simple "Other" header. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 20:19, 5 October 2021 (EDT)
:::::I like the idea of a single page listing all toy appearances in off-brand media, could be something fun and informative to look through, and I think it would be preferable than listing them in the notes section of each character's page. Doing the latter could potentially clog the notes with trivia that is not actually relevant to the characters themselves. -- [[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 23:56, 5 October 2021 (EDT)
::::::I feel that as an encyclopedia, that whenever the media you are covering is depicted in another media, it is worth noting because it's making a cultural impact (whether it's big or small). I feel that nothing can be lost from listing these things. I can think of half a dozen times a Transformers toy has appeared in a TV series that is totally worth mentioning. I can see how on ''The Transformers: The Movie'' page that the Notes section is purely for information pertaining to the background of the movie itself and not to be abused, but that film has such a significance in one of the ''Goldbergs'' episodes, that it seems unjust to not refer to it somewhere on the wiki. I find stuff like this truly fascinating. So, it's either make a new section for stuff like that and include the info underneath, or make a new section that can link to a new page entirely. Thanks for reading. // [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] ([[User talk:Anythingspossibleforapossible|talk]]) 18:03, 10 October 2021 (EDT)

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Anythingspossibleforapossible: /* Cultural stuff */ new section

The Transformers: The Movie

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Anythingspossibleforapossible: /* Notes */

{{disambig3|Transformers: The Movie}}
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|prev=B.O.T. (episode)
|next=Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1
|seriess2=[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (franchise)|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]]
|prev2=Scramble City: Mobilization
|next2=Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1
|title=''The Transformers: The Movie''
|image=Transformersanimatedfilmposter.jpg
|caption=A long time ago in a galaxy far far away....
|production code=4034
|production company=[[Sunbow Productions]]
|writer=[[Ron Friedman]]
|directed by=[[Nelson Shin]]
|animation studio=[[Toei Animation|Toei]]
|release date=[[August 8]], [[1986]]
|continuity=[[Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]
}}
{{quote|Conceived in the epic tradition of ''[[Star Wars (film)|Star Wars]]''...|[[Victor Caroli]] ain't just whistling Dixie|[[The Transformers: The Movie promo|''The Transformers: The Movie'' promo]]}}

'''''The Transformers: The Movie''''' is an animated feature film based on the original ''Transformers'' toyline. It was released in the United States on Friday, August 8, 1986.

The film's storyline follows the same continuity as the ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Transformers]]'' cartoon. It introduces a [[Scale|planet-sized Transformer]] called [[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]] who eats other planets, and is approaching [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. As part of their continuing wars, the [[Autobot]]s and [[Decepticon]]s have a [[Battle of Autobot City|fierce battle]] on [[Earth]] which sees both [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] mortally wounded. Prime passes the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] and dies, and Megatron is transformed by Unicron into [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]]. [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] (briefly) assumes leadership of the Decepticons, but is killed when Galvatron arrives at Cybertron. Galvatron then chases the surviving Autobots on Earth across space, splitting them up and taking the Matrix. The Autobots find their way back to each other, and follow Galvatron to Cybertron just as Unicron transforms into [[robot mode]] and begins to eat their world. Travelling inside Unicron, [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] recovers the Matrix, transforms into Rodimus Prime, and uses the Matrix to destroy Unicron.

Often referred to by fans simply as "the movie" or "TFTM", the movie was a step up in almost every area from the television series, with a more sophisticated plot, more serious treatment of war and violence, a hugely ambitious scope and a greatly increased animation budget with well-known celebrities providing voice work. For these reasons, the film remains very popular with children of the 1980s.

The film opens with characters who had been featured in the first two years of the toyline and associated media (cartoons, comic books, etc.), but quickly introduces new characters and kills many of the old ones to make room. Of particular note, Optimus Prime and Starscream are both destroyed during the course of the film.

{{quote|The Japanese have funded a full-length animated cartoon about the doings of these toys, which is all bad outer-space stuff. I play a planet. I menace somebody called Something-or-other. Then I'm destroyed. My plan to destroy Whoever-it-is is thwarted and I tear myself apart on the screen.|Orson Welles<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=KlqsYy512WIC&source=gbs_navlinks_s "Orson Welles: A Biography"] page 522</ref>}}

==Synopsis==
[[File:TFTM Unicron Lithone.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|That's no moon.]]
[[Unicron/Generation 1|A mechanical planet]] travels through the depths of space, attacking [[Lithone (planet)|a metal planet]] which has [[Lithone (species)|robotic inhabitants]]. Robots, vehicles, buildings, and even large chunks of rock are sucked off the surface and devoured by the monstrous planet.

It is the year [[2005]], and the [[Decepticon]]s are now in control of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. The [[Autobot]]s are preparing to launch an assault to retake the planet from hidden bases on two of Cybertron's moons. The Autobots launch a [[Autobot shuttle|shuttle]] to pick up a final shipment of [[energon]] from [[Earth]] before they strike.

[[File:Tftm1986a.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Commander, tear this ship apart until you've found those plans. And bring me the passengers; I want them alive!]]
Plans for the attack are overheard by [[Laserbeak (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Laserbeak]], who reports back to [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]]. The Decepticons attack the Autobot shuttle en route to Earth, wiping out its crew (including [[Ironhide (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ironhide]], [[Prowl (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Prowl]], [[Ratchet (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ratchet]] and [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]]). Using the Autobots' own shuttle, the Decepticons are able to get very close to the Autobots' base on Earth, [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]], before they are detected, and begin a devastating surprise attack on the unprepared city.

During the [[Battle of Autobot City|battle at Autobot City]], both [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] and Megatron suffer mortal injuries, and a number of others are also killed. Eventually the Decepticons retreat, but the damage suffered by the Autobots is severe.

[[File:Tftm1986b.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.]]
Shortly after the battle, Prime lies on his deathbed. He passes the reins of leadership to [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] and gives him the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. (Though [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] actually touches the Matrix before Magnus does.) Prime relates a prophecy: "One day, an Autobot shall rise from our ranks, and use the power of the Matrix to light our [[darkest hour]]." He then gives the oath, "[['Til all are one]]", and [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|dies]]. This sequence of events is observed remotely by Unicron, the monstrous planet, who appears unusually concerned by the survival of the Matrix.

The Decepticons are making their escape aboard [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], but are too heavy for him to get them all home under his own power. After putting the matter to a fair vote, the Decepticons decide to throw their injured members off the ship to better the chance of survival for the rest, including the mortally wounded Megatron. Too injured to save himself, [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] tosses Megatron out into space and claims leadership of the Decepticon army.

[[File:TFTM Starscream chucks Megatron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Into the garbage chute, flyboy.]]
Megatron and the other adrift Decepticons then encounter Unicron in interstellar space. Unicron offers to rebuild Megatron and his minions in exchange for their service. After some coercion on the planetoid's part, Megatron agrees, and is [[Reformatting|reformatted]] into [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]]. The other Decepticons are turned into [[Cyclonus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Cyclonus]], [[Scourge (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Scourge]], and the [[Sweep (G1)|Sweeps]]. Unicron provides them with a [[Revenge (G1)|ship]], and sends them to kill Ultra Magnus and destroy the Matrix, stating that the Matrix is the only thing which can stand in his way.

[[File:Tftm1986c.jpg|upright=1.1|left|thumb|Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed.]]
Galvatron first stops at Cybertron to take his revenge by killing Starscream and reclaiming leadership of the Decepticons. Almost immediately afterwards, Unicron arrives in Cybertron's vicinity and devours at least two moons—both of the Autobots' moon bases are destroyed. Under coercion by Unicron, Galvatron finally heads to Earth to kill Ultra Magnus, but Magnus and the other surviving Autobots flee in a pair of shuttles. Eventually Galvatron manages to cause one shuttle to crash on yet another metal planet ([[Quintessa (planet)|Quintessa]]), and detonates the other with a volley of missiles. However, the Autobots in the second shuttle escape unnoticed by separating the front portion of their shuttle just before impact.

[[File:TFTM Quintesson Palace.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Mos Eisley spaceport. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.]]
The Autobots in the crashed shuttle, Hot Rod, [[Kup (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Kup]], and the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], find themselves separated and in a hostile environment. Hot Rod and Kup are captured by a squad of [[Allicon]]s and taken before a [[Quintesson]] [[Quintesson#Judges|judge]] and his court. While being held there, they learn the name and nature of Unicron from [[Kranix (G1)|Kranix]], a survivor of the planet destroyed in the opening of the film, which he calls [[Lithone (planet)|Lithone]]. Meanwhile, the Dinobots encounter and befriend a young, wild Autobot named [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] who has been living alone on Quintessa. Together, they crash the trial just as Hot Rod and Kup are fighting losing odds against the Quintessons' [[Sharkticon (species)|Sharkticons]]. The tide is turned, and the Autobots commandeer a [[Quintesson Cruiser]].

[[File:Tftm1986d.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|What an incredible smell you've discovered!]]
The other group of Autobots has landed on the planet [[Junkion (planet)|Junkion]] to make repairs, but are attacked yet again by Galvatron, who was tipped off to their survival by Unicron. During the battle, Ultra Magnus tries to open the Matrix to use its power, but is unable to do so, and instead is killed. Galvatron absconds with the Matrix, taking it away to Unicron. The remaining Autobots—[[Perceptor (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Perceptor]], [[Blurr (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Blurr]], [[Springer (G1)|Springer]], [[Arcee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Arcee]], and [[Spike Witwicky (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Spike]]'s son [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel]]—are then ambushed by [[Junkion (species)|Junkions]], the eponymous natives of Junkion, who are also giant transforming robots. This battle is cut short, however, by the arrival of Hot Rod's group in their Quintesson ship. After exchanging the [[universal greeting]] they all make friends, and the Junkions restore Ultra Magnus to life. Together, the whole group travels to Cybertron to try to recover the Matrix and destroy Unicron.

[[File:TFTM Unicron smashes cybertron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Rebel base in range. You may fire when ready.]]
Galvatron attempts to open the Matrix to use its power against Unicron and force his master into submission, but is unable to open it. Unicron, not pleased with this attempted treachery, shocks Galvatron by transforming from a planet into a [[Scale|planet-sized robot]]. Unicron plucks Galvatron off his chest and swallows him, Matrix and all, and then begins attacking Cybertron itself. [[Shockwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Shockwave]] scrambles the Decepticon forces to defend the planet, but they are ineffective against so large an enemy. Shortly the Autobots arrive from Junkion, and fly the Quintesson ship straight through Unicron's eye. This impact destroys the ship, and the Autobots fall out inside Unicron. Hot Rod, separated from the others, eventually runs into Galvatron. During their fight, Hot Rod gets his hands on the Matrix and hears Optimus's voice speak the words, "Arise, Rodimus Prime." Hot Rod grows in stature, adopts a much sterner demeanor, and quickly dispatches Galvatron by tossing him through Unicron's hull out into space. He then opens the Matrix, which fills Unicron with light and begins destroying him.

[[File:Tftm1986e.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Use the Force, Luke.]]
In the meantime, the other Autobots inside Unicron have located some of their comrades from the moon bases who had been presumed dead, including [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] and Daniel's father, Spike. The Autobots, including Rodimus, escape through Unicron's remaining eye just as he begins to fall apart and explode. The scene then immediately shifts to the surface of Cybertron, where—for unclear reasons—the Autobots seem to be in charge again. Rodimus predicts an era of peace and prosperity, and the film closes with a shot of Unicron's severed head still floating in orbit around Cybertron.

[['Til all are one]].
{{--}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]])
*[[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime]] ([[Judd Nelson]])
*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] ([[Robert Stack]])
*[[Kup (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Kup]] ([[Lionel Stander]])
*[[Springer (G1)|Springer]] ([[Neil Ross]])
*[[Arcee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Arcee]] ([[Susan Blu]])
*[[Blurr (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Blurr]] ([[John Moschitta]])
*[[Grimlock (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Grimlock]] ([[Gregg Berger]])
*[[Perceptor (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Perceptor]] ([[Paul Eiding]])
*[[Blaster (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Blaster]] ([[Buster Jones]])
*[[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]] ([[Michael Bell]])
*[[Slag (G1)|Slag]] (Neil Ross)
*[[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]]
*[[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] ([[Frank Welker]])
*[[Ironhide (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ironhide]] (Peter Cullen)
*[[Prowl (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Prowl]] (Michael Bell)<ref group="fc" name="crednolines">Credited and appeared, but had no speaking lines.</ref>
*[[Jazz (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Jazz]] ([[Scatman Crothers]])
*[[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] ([[Dan Gilvezan]])
*[[Cliffjumper (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Cliffjumper]] ([[Casey Kasem]])
*[[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] ([[Corey Burton]])
*[[Gears (G1)|Gears]] ([[Don Messick]])<ref group="fc" name="creduncertain">Credited, but may or may not have appeared through an animation error.</ref>
*[[Auto-combatant]] (Frank Welker)
*[[Eject (G1)|Eject]]
*[[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]]
*[[Steeljaw (G1)|Steeljaw]]
*[[Ramhorn (G1)|Ramhorn]]
*[[Wheeljack (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Wheeljack]]
*[[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]]
*[[Ratchet (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ratchet]]
*[[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]]
*[[Grapple (G1)|Grapple]]
*[[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]]
*[[Hound (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hound]]
*[[Sunstreaker (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Sunstreaker]]
*[[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]]
*[[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]]<ref group="fc" name="crednoapp">Credited, but did not appear.</ref> ([[Walker Edmiston]])
|c2=
*[[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] (Frank Welker)
*[[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] ([[Leonard Nimoy]])
*[[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] ([[Chris Latta]])
*[[Cyclonus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Cyclonus]] ([[Roger C. Carmel]])
*[[Scourge (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Scourge]] ([[Stan Jones]])
*[[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] (Frank Welker)
*[[Devastator (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Devastator]] ([[Arthur Burghardt]])
*[[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]] (Michael Bell)
*[[Bonecrusher (G1)|Bonecrusher]] (Neil Ross)
*[[Hook (G1)|Hook]] (Neil Ross)
*[[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]] (Don Messick)<ref group="fc" name="appearnocredit">Appeared and had speaking lines, but not credited.</ref>
*[[Mixmaster (G1)|Mixmaster]]
*[[Long Haul (G1)|Long Haul]]
*[[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] ([[Hal Rayle]])
*[[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]] ([[Clive Revill]])
*[[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]]
*[[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] ([[Jack Angel]])
*[[Shockwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Shockwave]] (Corey Burton)
*[[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] ([[Bud Davis]])<ref group="fc" name="crednolines"/>
*[[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] ([[Ed Gilbert]])
*[[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] (Frank Welker)
*[[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] (Frank Welker)
*[[Laserbeak (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Laserbeak]] (Chris Latta)<ref group="fc" name="appearnocredit">Appeared and had speaking lines, but not credited.</ref>
*[[Ravage (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ravage]] (Frank Welker)<ref group="fc" name="appearnocredit">Appeared and had speaking lines, but not credited.</ref>
*[[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]]
*[[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]]
*[[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]
*[[Skywarp (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Skywarp]]
*[[Thundercracker (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Thundercracker]]
*[[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]]
*[[Sweep (G1)|Sweeps]]
*[[Cyclonus's Armada]]
|h3=[[Junkion (species)|Junkions]]|c3=
*[[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]] ([[Eric Idle]])
*[[Junkyard (G1)|Junkyard]] (Bell)
*[[Scrapheap (G1)|Scrapheap]] (Welker)
*[[Rubbish]]
*[[Re-Cycle]]
*[[Trashbin]]
*[[HAZMAT]]
*[[Ashtray]]
*[[Wasteoid Gamma]]
*[[Greasestain]]
|h4=Others|c4=
'''[[Human]]s'''
*[[Spike Witwicky (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Spike Witwicky]] (Corey Burton)
*[[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel Witwicky]] ([[David Mendenhall]])

'''[[Lithone (species)|Lithones]]'''
*[[Kranix (G1)|Kranix]] ([[Norman Alden|Norm Alden]])
*[[Arblus]]

'''[[Quintesson]]s'''
*[[Quintesson Prosecutor|Quintesson leader]] (Roger C. Carmel)
*[[Quintesson Judge]] ([[Regis Cordic]])
*[[Quintesson Bailiff]]
*[[Sharkticon (species)|Sharkticons]]
*[[Allicon]]s

'''Other'''
*[[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]] ([[Orson Welles]])
|nonumbering=true
}}
<references group="fc"/>

==Quotes==
[[File:TFTM European intro.jpeg|thumb|upright=1.4|It is a period of civil war. Rebel spaceships, striking from a hidden base, have won their first victory against the evil Galactic Empire.]]
"Now all we need is a little energon and a lot of luck." 
"More than you imagine, Optimus Prime."
:—'''Optimus Prime''' and '''Megatron''' tempt fate.

"Such heroic nonsense."
:—'''Megatron''' coldly finishes off Ironhide. The 'Cons always get the best lines.

"First, we crack the shell... then we crack the nuts inside."
:—'''Rumble''' bravely raids Autobot City.

"I've got better things to do tonight than die!"
:—'''Springer''', telling it like it is.

"One shall stand. One shall fall."
:—'''Optimus Prime''' uttering the most quoted line of the Movie. An ass kicker cometh.

"Why throw your life away so recklessly?" 
"That's a question you should ask yourself, Megatron." 
:—'''Megatron''' and '''Optimus Prime''', about to engage in one last battle to the death.

"You, who are without mercy, now plead for it? I thought you were made of '''''sterner stuff'''''."
:—'''Optimus Prime''''s trash talk is actually [http://www.enotes.com/shakespeare-quotes/sterner-stuff a lot cooler than it sounds].

"I would have waited an eternity for this! It's over, Prime." 
"'''''NEVER!'''''"
:—'''Megatron''' is about to learn that a wounded '''Optimus Prime''' has enough strength left for one good hit.

"Until that day...'til all are one..."
:—'''Optimus Prime''''s final words.

"Oh, how it ''pains'' me to do this." 
"Wait! I still function!" 
"Wanna ''bet''?"
:—'''Starscream''' fights back the tears as he throws '''Megatron''' out of Astrotrain.

"Soundwave superior, Constructicons inferior."
:—'''Soundwave''' insults the combiner team.

"I have summoned you here for a purpose." 
"Nobody summons Megatron!" 
"Then it pleases me to be the first."
:—'''Unicron''' shows '''Megatron''' who's the boss.

"Who disrupts my coronation?" 
"Coronation, Starscream? This is bad comedy." 
"Megatron? Is that you?" 
"Here's a hint!"
:—'''Galvatron''' drops "hints" for '''Starscream''' like others drop anvils.

"Oh shit! What are we gonna do now!"
:—'''Spike''' says the movie’s most infamous line.

"Did we ''have'' to let them detonate three quarters of the ship?" 
"Seeing as how they would have detonated ''four'' quarters, I think it was a good choice."
:—'''Arcee''' and '''Springer''', debating the launch of their emergency shuttle.

"Spare me this mockery of justice!"
:—'''Kranix''' is upset at being found innocent.

"You check in, but you don't check out."
:—'''Wreck-Gar''' making a reference to the tagline from the "Roach Motel." commercials

"For a time... I considered ''sparing'' your wretched little planet Cybertron. But now... you shall witness... its ''dismemberment''!"
:—'''Unicron''' really needs to work on his anger management skills...

"Destiny... You cannot... destroy... my... destiny!"
:—'''Unicron''''s final words.

"Let this mark the end of the Cybertronian Wars as we march forward into a new era of peace and happiness! 'Til all are one!" 
:—'''Rodimus Prime''' announces the end of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]]...yeah, right.

==Season 5==
When ''The Movie'' was broadcast in [[The Transformers (cartoon)#Season 5|the fifth season]] of ''The Transformers'', it was broken into 5 parts (designated "Days") and given new bookending segments with original story material.

===Day One===
[[File:TommyPrimeSeason5BumperMovie.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|You just watch yourself. We're wanted men. I have the death sentence on twelve systems.]]
[[Tommy Kennedy|Tommy]] meets up with [[Powermaster]] [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] in the barren wasteland and Prime is concerned with the black eye and many bruises Tommy is sporting. Tommy explains that some "big guys" at school tried to rough him up (and by all visual evidence, succeeded). Tommy asks Prime if he'd ever faced any "big guys" in his many adventures and Prime decides to tell him about the time he faced the "biggest guy" of them all, [[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]]...

Optimus leaves off at the point during the [[Battle of Autobot City]] when Megatron broke their defenses to let the slaughter begin. Optimus gruesomely teases his own death scene to a very confused and concerned Tommy, but reassures him that until he can be revived as a Powermaster, the Matrix must be passed on to someone else who is worthy. Tommy wants to hear all about it, but Optimus doesn't have the time. Apparently, he needs to meet up with [[Joyride (G1)|Joyride]] and help him [[Space bridge technician|repair]] the [[Space bridge]]. Tommy asks if he can tag along and Optimus tells him that if he can lift one of their two-ton screwdrivers, he can even help. They summarily blast off into space.
{{-}}

===Day Two===
[[File:PrimeExplodingMemoryChip.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.1|I've lost R2!]]
Tommy and Optimus meet up in the barren wasteland, though Prime isn't sure what Tommy wants. Tommy reminds him that he promised to tell him more about Unicron and Prime concedes that he's been having trouble with his memory chip, lately. Tommy tells him all about the Battle of Autobot City, but none if it rings a bell for Optimus. Prime asks Tommy to open up an access panel in the back of his head and check the circuit. Tommy repairs the circuit, jogging Prime's memory...

Prime leaves off at the point where [[Jazz (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Jazz]] and [[Cliffjumper (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Cliffjumper]] are eaten by Unicron. Tommy demands to hear more of the story, but Prime's memory chip explodes and smoke pours from the side of his head. All he sees are brief flashes of the further adventures of [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] and the rest. The furthest he can see, though, is the "death" of [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] when his shuttle is blown up by [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]]. Tommy expresses discontent, citing that the Autobots are "too cool to die". Prime says he knows there's more to the story, but with his faulty memory chip, he can't access the details. Tommy insists they get his chip fixed and so they blast off into space to do just that.
{{-}}

===Day Three===
[[File:TommyKennedyTraumatized.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|I can't even see. How am I supposed to fight?]]
Tommy finishes the repairs on Prime's memory chip, much to Prime's relief. Tommy asks Prime to test it out by continuing his story about the battle against Unicron. Prime indulges Tommy's request...

Prime leaves off at the point where [[Kup (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Kup]] and Hot Rod are taken to the [[Sharkticon (species)|Sharkticon]] pits and watch as the survivors of [[Lithone (planet)|Lithone]] are executed. Tommy begs Prime to stop, claiming that the story thus far is too intense and depressing for him to handle. Prime asks if he wants to hear about how Kup and Hot Rod are fed to the Sharkticons, how the Autobots are menaced by "aliens made of junk" or how Ultra Magnus is blown to pieces by [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]]. Tommy suddenly changes his mind and demands to hear all the gory, macabre details. Prime sets Tommy back down in the barren wasteland and promises to return soon to transform his day into an adventure. He then blasts off into space.
{{-}}

===Day Four===
[[File:PrimeTommyStopMotion.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.1|If there's a bright center to the universe, you're on the planet it's farthest from.]]
Tommy and Optimus meet up once again in the barren wasteland. Tommy asks why Prime is so late for their appointment and Prime confesses that [[Grimlock (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Grimlock]] took a wrong turn on the way over. Prime wishes he hadn't let the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]] fly the shuttle. Tommy asks if Prime has enough time to tell him more of the story and Prime assures him there's time enough...

Prime leaves off at the point where the Autobots team up with the [[Junkion (species)|Junkion]]s to battle Unicron. Tommy is incredulous, wondering what a bunch of aliens made of junk could possibly contribute to the battle against Unicron. Prime informs him that great adversities often bring out the best in people, citing Hot Rod as an example. Tommy begs to hear how the story ends, but Prime says that he must first take Grimlock to have his "brain circuits" upgraded. Setting Tommy down, Prime promises to be back soon to transform his day into an adventure. Then he blasts off into space.
{{-}}

===Day Five===
[[File:StanBushTheTouchMusicVideoRecordLabelNotes.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|He made a fair move. Screaming about it won't help you.]]
Meeting again in the barren wasteland, Optimus asks Tommy if he's ready to hear the end of the story. Contrary to all the enthusiasm Tommy has shown during past storytimes, the human child laments that he's forgotten most of the tale thus far (offering the flimsy excuse that his lack of an electronic brain makes remembering so many details impossible). Prime gives him "a quick rundown" (that takes ''four minutes'') and then proceeds to finish the epic yarn...

Prime finishes the story with the destruction of Unicron, the ascension of Rodimus Prime and the exile of the Decepticons. Prime asks Tommy if he's satisfied, but Tommy just has more questions. Like what was up with the [[Quintesson]]s? Did they drop Grimlock on his head when he was a kid? And how did they ever bring Prime back to life? Prime tells Tommy to slow down. He has to attend an interstellar peace conference, but until he returns, he leaves Tommy with... [[The Touch|THE TOUCH!!!]]
{{--}}

==Production timeline==
* First script outline by Ron Friedman: revisions from 15th August 1984 to 19th September 1984
* First draft script by Ron Friedman: submitted November 12th 1984. Revised February 13th 1985.
* Reference photos of Powered Convoy toy designated as Ultra Magnus, provided to Ron Friedman: Taken 18th March 1985
* Second script outline by Ron Friedman: revised 28th March 1985
* Second draft script by Ron Friedman: completed 27th April 1985. Revised 2nd May 1985
* Model sheets approved 14th June 1985: Cyclonus, Galvatron (Marvel model with revised head), Hot Rod, Kranix (the pre-final model, can be seen with Granix name on it), Quintesson Judge (colour approved on 18th November 1985 by J. Bacal), Rodimus Prime, Scourge/Sweep, Sharkticon, Unicron robot mode, Wheelie, Wreck-gar
* Model sheets approved 24th June 1985: Ultra Magnus robot mode(first Powered Convoy version)
* Model sheets approved 2nd July 1985: Ultra Magnus (Initial Toei design. Colour revised on 20th July 1985)
* Model sheets approved 19th July 1985: Arblus robot mode, Spike (final model), Ultra Magnus vehicle mode(first Powered Convoy version)
* Model sheets approved 29th July 1985: Quintesson Prosecutor (a.k.a Quintesson leader. Approved by J. Bacal on 18th December 1985)
* Model sheets approved 31st July 1985: Arblus spaceship mode
* Model sheets approved 6th September 1985: Rewind flip side of the cassette mode
* Dialogue recording (main sessions): 10th and 11th September 1985
* Model sheets approved 3rd October 1985: Rewind and Eject
* Model sheets approved 8th October 1985: Lithonian Scientist, Lithonian Woman no.1

* Storyboard sequence 1 (Attack on Lithone): Final 31st October 1985
* Storyboard sequence 2 (Title sequence): Final 31st December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 3 (2005): Final 31st October 1985
* Storyboard sequence 4 (More Than You Imagine): Final 31st October 1985. Revised Final 14th November 1985.
* Storyboard sequence 5 (Attack On The Shuttle): Final 31st October 1985
* Storyboard sequence 6 (Gone Fishin'/Dare): Final 4th November 1985. Revised Final 14th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 7 (Battle Of Autobot City, part 1): Final 14th November 1985. Revised Final 25th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 8 (Battle Of Autobot City, part 2): Final 31st October 1985. Revised Final 14th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 9 (Death Of Optimus Prime): Final 7th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 10 (Witness To A Funeral): Final 7th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 11 (Contest For Leadership): Final 4th November 1985. Revised Final 13th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 12 (Transformation): Final 11th November 1985. Revised Final 26th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 13 (Coronation): Final 10th December 1985. Revised Final 18th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 14 (Destruction Of Moonbase One): Final 10th December 1985. Revised Final 19th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 15 (Escape): Final 16th December 1985. Revised Final 24th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 16 (Pursuit): Final 12th December 1985. Revised Final 26th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 17 (Nothin's Gonna Stand In Our Way): Final 11th November 1985. Revised Final 25th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 18 (Arrival On Junk): Final 12th November 1985. Revised Final 25th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 19 (Unwelcome Visitors): Final November 14th 1985. Revised Final 27th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 20 (The Matrix Survives): Final 12th November 1985. Revised Final 25th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 21 (An Unexpected Friend): Final 18th December 1985. Revised Final 26th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 22 (Destruction Of Moonbase Two): Final 17th December 1985. Revised Final 26th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 23 (Ambush): Final 11th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 24 (Judgement/Rescue): Final 12th December 1985. Revised Final 26th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 25 (Another Leader Dies): Final 9th December 1985. Revised Final 26th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 26 (Unusual Allies): Final 19th December 1985. Revised Final 31st December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 27 (The Enemy Revealed): Final 12th December 1985. Revised Final 26th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 28 (Confrontation): Final 19th November 1985. Revised Final 6th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 29 (United Against The Enemy): Final 20th November 1985. Revised 4th December 1985. Revised Final 6th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 30 (In The Belly Of The Monster): Final 20th November 1985. Revised 3rd December 1985. Revised Final 6th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 31 (Their Darkest Hour): Final 2nd December 1985. Revised 19th December 1985. Revised Final 31st December 1985

==Credits==
{{see|The Transformers: The Movie/credits}}

==Animation errors==
[[File:TFTM Unicron Small.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|We’re doomed.]]
*When Unicron is approaching Lithone at the start of the movie, at the line "Look, it's Unicron!", a [[Animation error#Sizing errors|cel stacking error]] results in Unicron's ring appearing in front of a building arch, [[Distribution|making Unicron look very tiny]] in that shot. In the next shot, it is clear that Unicron is several times larger than the entire planet of Lithone.
*The inside of one of the Lithonian ships being devoured by Unicron is visible for a couple of frames. The pilot of the ship appears to be Kranix, even though he apparently screams out Kranix's name, and Kranix appears later in the Quintesson prison.
*When Optimus Prime asks Jazz to report security status, it shows both Jazz and Cliffjumper. Cliffjumper is seen twiddling knobs above the actual drawn computer, as if a section was supposed to be present.
*Coloring errors:
**When the closeup of Cliffjumper doing his countdown is shown, his shoulders are blue (like his windows) instead of red.
**Scavenger's head is white instead of black as he ducks from Prowl's shot aboard the shuttle.
**Blaster's forehead is red instead of white after his "look out and shout!" line, and again after he returns to [[robot mode]].
**In the big lineup of firing Decepticons in Autobot City, Soundwave's cheek guards are blue instead of white.
**When Blaster asks Perceptor "What's shakin'?", a Dirge-colored Seeker flies by the window. However, it appears to be the standard Starscream/Thundercracker/Skywarp design, instead of having Dirge's unique wings.
**As Devastator lays into the walls, Shrapnel is white where he should be black.
**Megatron's pelvis is white instead of black as he gives the "let the slaughter begin!" order.
**When the Dinobots jump out of Optimus Prime's Shuttle, the shuttle is colored like the first shuttle, which Megatron boarded, instead of red-highlighted scheme of Prime's shuttle.
**When Prime says "No matter the cost", the shuttle is painted completely orange, when the front should have red and white highlights.
**When Prime drives up behind the Decepticons, Blitzwing's helmet is purple instead of yellow. Prime's trailer is missing its Autobot symbol as well.
**The gun Megatron uses to fatally injure Optimus is blue and white for most of the shots it is seen in, but when Megatron screams "Fall! FALL!" while shooting Prime again, it is black.
**Prime's antennae are white as he tries to stand after knocking Megatron off the ledge.
**Starscream's whole nosecone, rather than just the canopy, is yellow as he looms over the fallen Megatron.
**As Starscream prepares to toss Megatron out the door, Soundwave's eyes are painted white like his mask rather than red. (Maybe he was sleeping, his excuse for not stopping Starsceam)
**Starscream's cockpit shell nearest his head is colored like a canopy rather than gray, as he nominates himself for leadership. Man, even the A-list animation team couldn't keep this straight.
**When dragging Arcee into the shuttle and two shots later when flying into space Magnus's Shuttle has Blue highlights instead of Red.
**After Springer runs past him, Perceptor's gun changes from red to white for a few frames.
**When Cyclonus is strafing what appears via editing to be Hot Rod's shuttle, it has red highlights instead of blue.
**When Hot Rod's ship is being watched by Galvatron trailing smoke it has red highlights instead of blue.
**In the shot after Magnus announces that he cannot deal with that now, his ship has blue highlights instead of red.
**Shrapnel's lower legs are white when he lands on Junk, instead of black. Must be a side effect of being dead.
**When Hot Rod tells the Junkions the universal greeting, the Autobot insignia on his chest is colored black.
**After transforming, Unicron has all-white hands (instead of white with gold knuckles) and a white, rectangular chin (instead of the double-triangular chin with a goatee) he has later.
**As the Autobots fly through space after exiting Unicron's eye, Rodimus is painted in Ultra Magnus' colors (inverted).
*When the Decepticons blow a hole through the Autobot shuttle to get in, it is a clean break. However, Megatron is still shown ripping through random ship components to get in.
*When the Decepticons are killing the Autobot shuttle crew, there is one of the common Starscream/Skywarp/Thundercracker miscolors. Megatron transforms into gun mode and Starscream catches him, killing Brawn. When they cut back to the Decepticons, Starscream moves back to avoid the Autobots' fire, and a ''second'' Starscream is in front of the Constructicons without Megatron and is firing one of his arm rifles (this was probably meant to be Skywarp, as he flies into the shuttle and takes a seat at the controls once the Autobots are defeated). When they cut back to the Decepticons for the third time, Starscream has Megatron again and is finishing off the rest of the Autobots. In the shot of Starscream firing his own lasers, his wings are red instead of gray.
*Per his standard cartoon appearance, Ratchet should have a [[Red Cross]] symbol on each shoulder. When he turns in his seat as Brawn is shot down, we can see one on his right shoulder, but when he stands to return fire on the Decepticons, the right shoulder's cross has vanished, and he's only got one on his left shoulder. Then, when he falls, the cross is missing from ''both'' shoulders.
*When the Decepticons fly to the shuttle's controls:
**All of the Autobots have changed positions from when they fell—Brawn is now on his back, for example, while Prowl is now face-down.
**Ironhide's chest is completely intact, despite having a bunch of holes blown in it.
**Prowl, who turned gray as he fell (evidently dead before he even hit the floor) seems to be back in his normal colors.
*The reflections of Hot Rod and Daniel in the lake rarely line up with where they should be.
*When Hot Rod catches a fish, it is barely the size of his finger. When he releases it, it's [[Scale|suddenly huge]].
*Hot Rod has at least two totally different transformation schemes during the course of the film.
*When Hot Rod begins to shoot at the hijacked Autobot shuttle, the yellow light on his forehead is misaligned.
*When Kup and several Autobots at the roadblock react to Hot Rod's attack on the hijacked Autobot shuttle, Bluestreak is represented by Prowl's [[Character model|animation model]], in Bluestreak's gray and black colors.
*Sunstreaker appears with Kup's group on Earth as they observe Hot Rod firing on Ironhide's shuttle. Sunstreaker later appears as Optimus Prime's co-pilot when they arrive on Earth with the Dinobots, and is seen disembarking the shuttle along with Optimus Prime and Hound.
[[File:ShockwaveBattleAutobotcity.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|We've picked up a new group of signals... enemy fighters heading your way.]]
*In a wide aerial shot of the city under attack, a Reflector flies by in Ironhide's color scheme. Shockwave also makes his only appearance in the battle; considering both his role as Cybertron's guardian and his absence from any other scenes during the battle, his presence is probably an animation error. Rumble also flies past, despite being inside Soundwave at this point.
*A laser blast that should be behind Blaster is instead layered in front of him as he acknowledges Perceptor's orders.
[[File:TFTMRumbleFrenzytwored.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|[[FIRRIB|What]] about that [[R2-D2|blue one]]? We'll take that one.]]
*When [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] sends out his cassette troops, [[FIRRIB|Rumble is the same color as Frenzy]].
*Blaster first ejects what looks like Eject, who stays blue up until he gets to the edge of the screen. He then turns black like Rewind. Then Blaster ejects another blue cassette, which after about a second turns black. This one gets through half his transformation colored black, then turns blue for a split second then turns black again. Then, when the cassettes are fighting each other, Eject runs in from the left and jumps over Perceptor. And then he runs in from the left ''again'' to shoot Ravage.
*As Springer runs up to the launcher, Wheeljack's body is visible, but he's in the red, white and blue color scheme of Smokescreen - who, in the storyboards of this sequence, was intended to be the one lying there dead.
*While Springer and Arcee are trying to move the launcher into place, Springer's face is the same color as his helmet.
*During Devastator's combination sequence in Autobot City, his chest plate, portions of his pelvis, his forearms, and Bonecrusher's treads are all green. The chestplate and pelvis should be purple, as should Bonecrusher's treads (they're ''normally'' green when Bonecrusher is separate, but they turn purple when he combines), and his forearms should be black.
*For almost the entirety of his screen time during the battle in Autobot City, the "jet engine" on top of Devastator's chest plate is misinterpreted as a trapezoidal block. The only time it appears in its proper shape is when he high-kicks Grimlock. It appears as it should during the scuffle on Astrotrain.
*While Perceptor and Grapple are shooting, Swoop's lower half runs by in the foreground, long before the rest of him gets there.
*Prime's dramatic transformation sequence far outlasts the transformation sound that's supposed to go with it. It's also the wrong sound (ascending pitch) for his robot-to-vehicle transformation. His trailer is also missing the Autobot logo, which reappears for the rest of the scene.
*Prime is missing the transformation sound as he blasts back to robot mode.
*The gun Megatron fires uses the same sound effect as his fusion cannon.
*When Optimus Prime takes the Matrix out of his chest to give to Ultra Magnus, the animators forgot to remove the cel of the Matrix inside his chest, as it's still in there even as he's holding it in his hands. Since it's not supposed to be there, the luminous effect for the Matrix's core is missing from the duplicate in his chest, creating a visual trick that makes it look like Optimus might just have removed the core itself. (The [[Matrix of Leadership#Universe|''Universe'' comic]] would later use this error as a springboard to reconcile the visuals of Optimus's chest interior with their depiction in ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]''.)
*When Ultra Magnus accepts the Matrix, he's seen inserting it into his chest twice, or at best readjusting its "fit".
*As the other Decepticons prepare to push him out, Bombshell's chest is rendered as a shapeless gray mass, rather than with its yellow canopy.
*The voice that says, "Brothers! Don't!" is nowhere close to the voices of any of the five Decepticons shown getting thrown out of Astrotrain.
*When Megatron says "Nobody summons Megatron" his chest emblem is colored gray like his chest. It looks like it should have been painted as a darker shade of purple, as it's the shadowed section. But was painted gray instead.
[[File:TFTMStarscreamCoronationErrors.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4| *''trumpet fanfare''*]]
*Even after the [[Battle of Autobot City]], characters who are supposedly dead continue to appear in crowd shots and battles. Shrapnel's role in the fight on [[Junkion (planet)|Junk]] is the most noticeable (and he was called for by name in the original script), but Thundercracker, Skywarp and Kickback can all be seen at Starscream's coronation. The two jets are later seen again, flying into Unicron's mouth.
*In the establishing shot of Starscream's coronation, there are only five Constructicons (Bonecrusher had better things to do tonight) and they are miscolored as purple and white rather than their usual purple and green color scheme.
*Hook has two eyes instead of his normal visor as he looks around in confusion during the trumpet scene.
*An early establishing shot clearly shows Cybertron with two and ''only'' two moons in low orbit. Yet a third moon is visible right after Unicron finishes eating the two Autobot bases.
*When Galvatron introduces himself to the Coronation party, Soundwave's chest window is drawn far too small.
*When Galvatron says "Decepticons, to Earth!", aside from his mouth being partially open, his mouth doesn't move. I guess being reformatted by Unicron gives you the ability to talk without moving your mouth?
*In the scene where Bumblebee and Spike are in the [[Autobot frigate]] and escaping Moonbase Two's destruction, when the two are cheering after believing that Unicron has been destroyed, Bumblebee's on the left side of Spike's seat. However, after Spike expresses his "colorful" reaction to Unicron remaining completely unscathed, and when the frigate is about to get sucked into Unicron, Bumblebee is on the right side of Spike's seat.
*When Cyclonus is strafing the Autobot shuttle in space, he briefly flies offscreen, and during that time his laser blasts come from a point that in no way matches his flight path.
*During the wide shot of the Autobots in the crashed ship on Junk, Blurr's entire head is white. Also so is Daniels head, which is drawn as an indistinct incomplete circle.
*Daniel's lips don't purse when he whistles.
*Wreck-Gar's mouth doesn't move at all during his first lines, despite the camera pushing in all close on his face.
*The pistol Ultra Magnus fires uses the same sound effect as Optimus Prime's rifle.
*During the Junkion chase scene, Trashbin attacks Arcee. When she fights him off his motorcycle, his model is switched for Junkyard's when he falls down. And his head then flickers between colors when mounting Junkyard.
*When Grimlock gets kissed, his eyes are round instead of triangular.(Probably intentional expression)
*As Hot Rod falls off one of Unicron's inner spikes, his lower body isn't drawn in. It looks like it should be blocked by our view of the spike, but is layered above it instead.
*Hot Rod's missing his Autobot symbol as he regains his footing inside Unicron.
*As the Dinobots fly around Unicron, both his eyes are intact. (The left one had at this point been shattered.)
*The third smelting victim (who looks a lot like another Bumblebee) doesn't fall from the conveyor belt; he simply vanishes.

== Continuity errors ==
[[File:G1TFTM Snarl cameo.JPG|thumb|upright=1.4|He used to bulls-eye womp-rats in his T16 back home.]]

*The Dinobot [[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]] is mysteriously absent from almost the entire movie, even though the Dinobots as a group are featured prominently. Copies of the script which have come into fans' hands repeatedly list the Dinobots, but never make mention of Snarl by name. In fact, at one point the script refers to "the four Dinobots". Despite this, Snarl does appear in three very brief shots—in which at least one other Dinobot (Swoop in one, Sludge in another) is entirely absent. Hmm.
** On the other hand, the original production ''storyboards'' for the scene where Snarl first appears in the movie only mentions "the Dinobots", not a specific amount of them. Additionally, Snarl also seems to have been in the scene with Kup telling the Dinobots a story in at least ''one'' version of the film; the Japanese trailer for the movie has finished footage of this scene...but it's very different from the one in the film; the Dinobots are all in their robot modes, and Snarl is present in the scene instead of Slag. It's completely unknown why Snarl's appearance in this scene was cut.
*Also curiously absent are the 1985 Autobot cars and Mini-Vehicles, such as Inferno, Smokescreen, Cosmos, Warpath, etc. It would seem that these characters were available at the time of the movie:
**Perceptor and Blaster both debuted at the same time in the cartoon as the 1985 cars, and both play prominent roles in the movie.
**Grapple is [[:File:BattleAutobotCity.jpg|seen ''very'' briefly]] during the battle for Autobot City. Or maybe it's [[Hauler]].
**The 1985 Decepticons (Astrotrain, Dirge, etc.) appear in the film.
**[[:File:TFTM-SideswipeRedAlertTracks.jpg|Tracks]], [[:File:TFTM-RedAlertDown.jpg|Red Alert]] and Smokescreen (who was supposed to be the corpse in place of Wheeljack next to Windcharger) all appeared in storyboards but not the finished film.
*Devastator is treated as ''the'' ultimate threat, while in the cartoon, his role (and apparent power) was already being [[Starscream's Brigade|severely diminished]], presumably because several other combiners had been introduced. In story terms, the absence of these newer combiners, not to mention the mighty Omega Supreme, is inexplicable. In real-life terms, those characters didn't exist when the film commenced production. (The ''[[Transformers: The Animated Movie]]'' adaptation shows Omega Supreme, Superion and Defensor guarding the Ark against an attack by Bruticus and Menasor, attempting to [[retcon]] the problem away.)
*Possibly the biggest example of the film's tonal shift from the cartoon, shots from firearms that would previously knock another character down at best have since become lethal, best demonstrated when Brawn and Prowl are each killed with a single shot by the Decepticons during the movie's first act.
**While Prowl, Ironhide and Ratchet are shot straight through the torso, Brawn is killed by a single shot to his shoulder, which makes little sense.
[[File:Cyclonus armada tftf.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|We'll be safe enough once we make the jump into lightspeed.]]
*The existence of Cybertron's moons is contentious ''at best''.
**On the one hand, in numerous close and distant shots of the planet throughout the first two seasons, not a single moon was seen. Ever. Even after it got knocked out of Earth's orbit.
**On the other hand, Megatron ''does'' refer to Cybertron as "land of the metal moon" (note the singular) during "[[Microbots]]", suggesting otherwise. The fact that he was overenergized at the time and lost consciousness in mid-sentence - just before he ''might'' have specified a plural number of moons, (in)conveniently enough - makes it unclear just how much credence we should lend this statement.
**The movie promptly introduces two (possibly three) moons over the planet. In continuity terms, they must either have highly elliptical orbits with periapsides (points in their orbits that bring them closest to the planet) that just happened to coincide with the timeframe of the movie or they were constructed sometime after 1986.
*During the Battle of Autobot City, Starscream gets his leg caught. He shoots downward and gets away while screaming "My foot!", but it's his shin that's smoking while his foot looks fine. Later he kicks Megatron with the same foot. Shouldn't that hurt, according to him?
*So Ultra Magnus just happens to have a ready-made Matrix chamber installed in his chest cavity? Is this standard issue for all Autobots?
*The cartoon had already established that Astrotrain increases his size when he transforms to shuttle mode, being large enough to carry a pair of Decepticons in his cockpit. However, within the movie itself, his size is [[scale|noticeably inconsistent]]: When he leaves Autobot City, he's just large enough for the Decepticon army to cram themselves in; later, he's so huge that the Constructicons can quite comfortably form Devastator inside him. Perhaps he continued expanding when transforming from train to shuttle mode?
*Speaking of which, Astrotrain's entire body flips over when he transforms from train to space shuttle to escape from Autobot City. While ''we'' applaud the [[Show-accuracy|toy-accuracy]], the Decepticons inside probably didn't.
*Soundwave is loyal enough to pick up a wounded Megatron and save him, but when Starscream goes to throw Megatron out, Soundwave doesn't try to intervene. He even tries to steal the leadership once Megatron is gone. The "loyalty" attribute that has pertained so strongly to Soundwave seems to be alienated from the character in this scene.
*The number of minions created by Unicron changes throughout the film, with more Sweeps appearing as the story progresses. A second Cyclonus ("Cyclonus, the warrior, and [[Cyclonus's Armada|his armada]]") is shown being created but disappears shortly thereafter. At least ''seven'' new characters are shown at one point, created from only ''six'' Decepticons thrown from the shuttle.
*How can the Constructicons blow on those trumpets? Only [[Hook (G1)|three]] [[Bonecrusher (G1)|of]] [[Mixmaster (G1)|them]] have mouths.
[[File:SSBQ.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|"I've been looking forward to this for a long time." "Yes, I bet you have."]]
*[[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] is capable of reducing [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] to ashes with a single shot from his cannon mode. Though in later episodes Galvatron is shown blowing up even small ''[[Thrull|planets]]'' and being able to take down [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] with one shot from his cannon, his extraordinary killing power seems to be gone—like when he scores a direct hit in cannon mode on Ultra Magnus in "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5]]" and Magnus isn't especially hurt at all, or how a similar blast against Scourge in "[[The Burden Hardest to Bear]]" only leaves the latter temporarily incapacitated. [[Marvel Comics]] bios explain this by suggesting that Galvatron had nearly limitless power through Unicron... but then again, Galvatron himself claims to be "more powerful than ever" after Unicron is dead in "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 2]]". [[To sell toys|Who knows.]]
*Why didn't the Autobots notice Unicron until he was within devouring distance of Cybertron's moons? Why doesn't Shockwave, who is ''on Cybertron,'' react until after Unicron has eaten these moons, transformed into a giant robot, and ''smashed his hand into the planet's surface?''
*Despite running out of energon goodies on Quintessa, Hot Rod has at least one to offer to the Junkions.
*How did Hot Rod and Kup know to fly from Quintessa to Junk?
[[File:TFTMStarscreamVsUnicron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|This is either Starscream or his stunt double; hard to tell.]]
*When the Decepticons on Cybertron launch a counterattack on Unicron, all three of the first-year Seekers are seen fighting alongside the Coneheads. Given that all three were either explicitly killed earlier in the movie (Starscream) or have been turned into Galvatron's troops by this point (Thundercracker and Skywarp), they're obviously not supposed to be ''around'' in these forms anymore; of course, they could also just be [[generic]]s reusing their colors...but, as noted above, Thundercracker and Skywarp ''also'' appear at Starscream's coronation.
*Daniel, who was just learning how to use his exo-suit, had to knock down the acid cover inside Unicron to save his loved ones. Why couldn't the more experienced Spike do the same with his suit from above? He had both of his arms free and a clear shot at the cover.
*It's not clear how Rodimus Prime (carrying two humans) and the other Autobots survived their jump out of Unicron's eye and their plunge towards the surface of Cybertron.
*It's also unclear just how the dozen or so Autobots (and one shipload of Junkions) managed to retake the whole planet of Cybertron. Did Unicron really wipe out ''that'' many Decepticons?
* Unicron's invincibility is extremely inconsistent; Moments before becoming Galvatron, Megatron creates visible damage to Unicron's horns simply by attempting to hold into something. Later, he doesn't suffer even a dent when one of Cybertron's moons is detonated in his mouth. Near the end, the Dinobots are capable of punching their way through his "skin", and Rodimus Prime just casually throws Galvatron into space through Unicron's side. Even without the Matrix, the small group of Autobots did pretty well against him.

===Not necessarily errors===
*Fans have noted throughout the years that Astrotrain, in his flight through zero-gravity space, should not have needed to "jettison some weight" in the literal sense. However, since the ejected Decepticons quickly fall behind Astrotrain instead of floating alongside him, he must still have been accelerating and thus would have needed to burn a greater amount of fuel in order to push a larger payload. Perhaps he should have said "jettison some ''mass''", but then again, just being a spaceship doesn't make him a rocket scientist.
*Springer escapes from Unicron's eye by transforming into helicopter mode and flying through outer space, where there shouldn't be an atmosphere for his rotors to provide lift. Maybe Unicron was still within Cybertron's atmosphere?

==Continuity notes==
*''The Transformers: The Movie'' has had a huge effect in shaping the mythos. Among the elements and characters which would reappear in many other iterations of ''[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]'' are:
**The notion that [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] has moons.
**The [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] as a physical object, rather than the computer program previously depicted in the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|comics]]. Even the Marvel comics would eventually shoehorn this one in.
**[[Autobot City (disambiguation)|Autobot City]].
**[[Unicron]].
**The notion of [[Megatron (disambiguation)|Megatron]] becoming [[Galvatron (disambiguation)|Galvatron]].
**The idea of "[[Prime (rank)|Prime]]" being a rank rather than simply a given name.
**[[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|And it killed off Optimus Prime before it was cool]]!
*Cybertron's appearance in the post-titles establishing shot shows some major changes to the planet since our last look at it in Season 2. Many of the same buildings from the cartoon's stock image of the planet are there, but the giant pit near the planet's equator is mostly covered over, and the shredded portion of its southern hemisphere has been completely rebuilt.
*Gadgets and powers:
**Springer deploys a small flip-out twin laser from his wrist during the Autobot City battle.
**Arcee and Hot Rod both activate a long-distance scanner of some sort by lowering a red visor from under their helmets over their eyes.
**Megatron uses an "[[Lightsaber|Energy Dagger]]"<ref>[https://twitter.com/walruslaw/status/1204860124898181123 Reference sheets for various weapons used or planned for use in ''The Transformers: The Movie''] - TFRaw.com on Twitter</ref> during his one-on-one battle with Optimus Prime.
**Hot Rod uses a saw blade that extends from his retracted wrist.
**Blurr has the same kind of hooked welding tip used by various Autobots as far back as "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 2]]".
**Arcee unleashes a nasty barbed post from her fender to fend off a Junkion.
**Grimlock shows the never-before seen ability to [[GoBots|shoot lasers from his fists]].
*'''[[The Revenge of Bruticus|< <]]''' What makes Starscream the leader? Megatron's <s>dead</s> almost dead!

==Real-world references and Easter eggs==
[[File:TFTMUnicronSkyscrapers.jpg|thumb|I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.]]
*When the inside of Unicron is shown after he devours Lithone, the "blinking energy" effect of Unicron's innards shows, for a split second, what appear to be several images of post-apocalyptic buildings. These images look to be recycled background paintings from ''{{w|Fist of the North Star (1986 film)|Fist of the North Star}}'', a film [[Toei Animation|Toei]] had animated the same year. Regardless of animation efficiency/corner-cutting, the flashing images of ruined civilizations are eerily appropriate for Unicron.
[[File:TFTM Sludge Devastator.jpg|thumb|Your eyes can deceive you. Don't trust them.]]
*When Sludge gets haymakered by Devastator, his eyes pop out of their sockets in ''{{w|Looney Tunes}}'' fashion.
*Kup's storytelling sequence aboard the shuttle is drawn from the novel ''{{w|Of Mice and Men}}'', complete with Grimlock in the Lenny role asking Kup to "tell Grimlock about petrorabbits again".
*The Junkions speak almost entirely in pop culture quotes and pastiches. Littered among the generic phrases like "operators are standing by!", "Film at eleven" and "eliminate even the toughest stains" are more specific references, such as:
**"Don't look behind door #2, Monty!" - a reference to the game show ''[[Let's Make a Deal]]'' and its host, [[Monty]] Hall.
**"Ger-ronny-doo-ron-ron-ronny-mo!" - both the famous "{{w|Geronimo (exclamation)|Geronimo!}}" war cry, and the 1963 hit "{{w|Da Doo Ron Ron}}".
**"You check in, but you don't check out" - a parody of the tagline for {{w|Roach Motel (insect trap)|Roach Motel}} insect traps.
**"Happy motoring!" - the slogan of gas company [[Esso]].
**"Kill the Grand Poobah!" - a {{w|Grand Poobah|satirical term}} originating from {{w|Gilbert and Sullivan}}'s ''{{w|The Mikado}}'', likely referencing its use as the title of leaders of pseudo-Masonic lodges in ''{{w|The Flintstones}}'' and ''{{w|Happy Days}}''.
[[File:Tftm rosencrantz-and-guildenstern.jpg|thumb|Easy? You call that ''easy!?'']]
*The Quintesson jail cell includes robot debris ''strongly'' resembling [[:File:Tftm rosencrantz-and-guildenstern.jpg#parts|several mobile suits]] from 1985 Japanese animation ''{{w|Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam}}''.
*''[[Star Wars (film)|Star Wars]]'' sound effects (yes, even the high-budget Movie uses them):
**The ''[[Millennium Falcon]]'' engine burst noise is used extensively throughout the film, over and over and over, almost any time a Decepticon takes flight.

**[[Luke Skywalker]]'s deactivating [[lightsaber]] is used as the sound of the Quintesson ship's ramp extending.
**Clashing lightsabers are used as Unicron fires eye-blasts at the attacking Transformers.

**An igniting lightsaber is used as Rodimus opens the Matrix.
**An AT-AT foot stomp sound is heard as the Autobot shuttle crash lands on Junk.
**The whir of an AT-AT's leg hydraulics can be heard part way through Unicron's transformation.
*The ''[[Star Trek]]'' sliding door sound is used as Wreck-Gar pulls out his <s>iPhone</s> mini-TV.
*The sound used for the communicators on ''Star Trek'' is used when Daniel activates his blaster to save Spike.

==Adaptations==
*[[Transformers: The Movie (Marvel comic)|A comic adaptation of the movie]] was published by [[Marvel Comics]] in 1986, concurrently with the movie's theater run. It was based off a non-finalized version of the script, and differs in many details from the final film. Additionally, most of the major character models (and possibly their unedited original character write-ups) appear in issue #4 of the ''[[The Transformers Universe|Transformers Universe]]'' series.
*[[Transformers the Movie (Ladybird adaptation)|A storybook adaptation]] was released in the UK by [[Ladybird Books]].
*A four-part adaptation was released in 2006/2007 by [[IDW Publishing]], as part of the film's 20th anniversary celebration. It was titled ''[[Transformers: The Animated Movie]]'' to differentiate it from the [[Michael Bay]] [[Transformers (film)|live-action film]]. Unlike its predecessor, it adheres rigidly to the script and plot of the finished movie.

==Soundtrack==
{{main|The Transformers: The Movie - Original Motion Picture Soundtrack}}

==Promotions==
*Early in the movie's production, a [[The Transformers: The Movie promo|promotional trailer]] was made to sell the project to potential investors.
*The movie was advertised on related 1986 toy packages via the [[Decipher the Decepticon]] Sweepstakes, which included a pack-in poster and contest.
*The movie was heavily advertised directly by TV [[commercial]]s, and tail-end segments on Transformer toy ads. Portions of its story were also retold in altered fashion by animation segments of commercials for the movie character toys, such as a spot showing Springer doing battle with Wreck-Gar.
*[[Ziploc]] sandwich bags featuring an iron-on patch in boxed to advertise the movie. Each box contained one of eight potential characters.

==In the comic continuity==
The [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel UK comic]] made extensive use of the Movie as the basis for a series of stories involving the Transformers in the future. However, there are several differences between the events seen on screen and those referenced in the comic:

*The comic always dates the movie to [[2006]], following the date given in a treatment that was all [[Simon Furman]] had when he wrote "[[Target: 2006]]".
*In "Target: 2006", [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] states that he was previously "[[Life Spark]]".
*The Matrix is always called the "Creation Matrix" in the comic, a name that predates the "Matrix of Leadership" but which is now used for the same physical object.
*[[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] and [[Wheeljack (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Wheeljack]] both survive the events, both later appearing in "[[Space Pirates!]]" (set in [[2008]]).

In addition, [[Shockwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Shockwave]] definitely survives the attack by Unicron.

The US comic almost completely ignored the events of the Movie, though later in the run an alternative future is briefly shown in "[[Rhythms of Darkness!]]" and "[[A Savage Circle]]". In this timeline at least some of the events of the Movie took place such as the creation of [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] from [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]], which is dated to 2005, though [[Prowl (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Prowl]]'s death was overlooked. [[Prowl II|Wouldn't be the first time. Or the last.]]
*The US version of the future story "[[The Big Broadcast of 2006 (issue)|The Big Broadcast of 2006]]" implicitly has the events of the movie as part of its backstory. However, since the rest of the US series ignored the movie, this issue's place in the continuity is questionable.

==Edits==
Several English-language versions of the film exist, with the following differences in content from the American theatrical run:

*In some versions (notably the European version) the opening credits are replaced with a scrolling text ("''Star Wars'' style") which provides backstory.
*In some versions (notably the European version) the film ends with [[Victor Caroli|a narrator]] reassuring the audience that Optimus Prime will return.
*Instances of swearing in the film (there are two) were edited out; sometimes one, sometimes both. Those instances are: Spike yelling, "Oh shit, what are we gonna do now?" after the self-destructing Moon Base 2 fails to scratch Unicron, and Ultra Magnus growling, "Open, damn it, open!" while trying to open the Matrix to fend off Galvatron and the Sweeps on Junkion. The United Kingdom cinema version had the swearing included but, when it was released on VHS in the United Kingdom, Spike's line was cut ("damn" not being considered especially offensive in the UK). However it has been restored on all United Kingdom DVD releases.
*In some early FHE video releases, the shot of the Matrix falling out of Optimus Prime's hand and being caught by Hot Rod is edited so that it appears that Ultra Magnus simply takes the Matrix from Prime. Why this was done is not known, and the replay of the Hot Rod catch on Unicron's monitors was left intact.
*The original FHE video release of the film painted out all instances of Megatron's green-colored "bleeding" from the end of the battle of Autobot City up to his meeting with Unicron.
*Instead of DEG, the {{w|Rank Organisation|Rank Film}} "{{w|Gongman}}" appears before the British release of the film, as Rank were the United Kingdom distributors. Ironically, the DEG logo at the beginning uses the "Gongman" sounds, rather than its own fanfare, possibly due to a plastering mistake.

None of these edits significantly affect the story. They should not be confused with various other sequences which were changed before the film's final release:

*Originally, Ultra Magnus's "death sequence" on Junkion called for him to be lassoed and drawn and quartered by the Sweeps' energy beams, but this was deemed too graphic for audiences, hence the less disturbing "shot to death" sequence seen instead. There is evidence that the original sequence had been fully animated when the decision was made, however; the Sweeps still kept their solid energy lassos when they fire upon Magnus, and Magnus is seen visibly straining against what appears to be said lassos (edited out and replaced with laser fire) before exploding. This also explains why the Junkions only have to put his limbs back on to repair him.
*A number of other sequences were illustrated as [[storyboard]]s but dropped, presumably without ever being animated. Among them were:
**A short scene showing Ironhide piloting the Autobot shuttle through ''huge chunks of ice'' from the tail of a passing comet, explaining how the Decepticons caught them unawares. In response to a reprimand by Prowl who prickishly disapproves of Ironhide's piloting shenanigans, Ironhide exclaims, "I can sure as shootin' dodge a couple of ice chunks". When the Autobots are suddenly jolted by the Decepticon strike force as Megatron and his troops attempt to enter the shuttle, Ironhide tells the others on board, "That was no ice chunk...". Heroic nonsense ensues...
**An extended sequence with Hot Rod and Daniel outside the city.
**A sequence of Mirage blasting Bombshell and being fired on by Megatron.
**The Autobots finally bringing down Devastator with a barrage of missiles (and the Constructicons subsequently shooting Red Alert in the back).
**The Decepticons dogpiling Optimus Prime, explaining why he seems to be standing up just before his fight with Megatron, and no longer holding his rifle. According to storyboards, Prime gets bum-rushed by Blitzwing (who causes Prime to drop his gun), Starscream, Astrotrain, and Skywarp. While it is not clear how Prime defeated the first four hand-to-hand combatants, Dirge is later shown attempting one final sneak attack (and gets his can handed back to him) as Prime is talking to Megatron before the two leaders' final fight.
**Trailbreaker is shown dead among the wreckage of Autobot City as the Decepticons begin their retreat.
:Some of these concepts were in earlier versions of the script, and hence made it into the comic adaptation.
*Rumors have occasionally circulated in the fandom of additional animated footage that was dropped from the film, such as ultra-violent battle scenes. No evidence has ever surfaced to back these claims; the only known edits of any storyline or character importance are those listed in this section.
:{{see|Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers#The Transformers: The Movie|Urban legends about ''The Transformers: The Movie''}}

==Reception and box office==
{{quote|''The Transformers'', in which Orson Welles plays a planet, is pure headache material. Target audience of cartoon-watchers also will probably find the film unintelligible, noisy and unoriginal. Boxoffice prospects are dismal.|2=[http://books.google.com/books?id=DHNZAAAAMAAJ&q=Hasbro+Transformers&dq=Hasbro+Transformers&lr=&as_drrb_is=b&as_minm_is=1&as_miny_is=1983&as_maxm_is=12&as_maxy_is=2005&num=50&as_brr=0&cd=69 Variety's Film Reviews 1985-1986, Volume 19]}}

{{quote|Obnoxious animated feature about the title good guys, who defend the universe against an evil planet (which has a voice of its own... provided by Orson Welles.) That deafening rock score certainly doesn't help. Little more than a feature-length toy commercial.|Leonard Maltin, ''1987 Movie & Video Guide''}}

{{quote|While all this action may captivate young children, the animation is not spectacular enough to dazzle adults, and the Transformers have few truly human elements to lure parents along, even when their voices are supplied by well-known actors. |2=[http://www.nytimes.com/1986/08/09/movies/screen-transformers-animation-for-children.html The New York Times]}}

{{quote|Transformers -- The Movie, a feature-length animated film inspired by the syndicated TV cartoon series inspired by the Hasbro toy imported from Japan, is utterly uninspired entertainment. |2=[http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=DM&p_theme=dm&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0ED3CE8EA8D40CCA&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM The Dallas Morning News]}}

{{quote|If you can swallow, without gagging, a large measure of sentimental and offensive religiosity - lines like "Do not grieve. Soon I will be one with the Matrix," whispered by a failing hunk of Autobot metal - then you have a better than even chance of leaving the theatre on your own two feet. |2=[http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=01kiAAAAIBAJ&sjid=W6gFAAAAIBAJ&pg=2445,1286000&dq=transformers&hl=en The Montreal Gazette]}}

{{quote|Everything is poorly drawn and - when it's in focus - one dimensional. It is terribly hard to separate the robots from the backgrounds, and there is no easy way to tell the good guys from the bad guys. In an earlier movie based on the same sort of robot toys - "Go-Bots: The Battle of the Rock Lords" - the good guys were either white or colorful and the bad guys were dreary, and they had distinct personalities. Not this movie; everyone looks and sounds alike, except one pink robot who is a female good guy. Her tin voluptuousness makes her stand out. |2=[http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=kw4wAAAAIBAJ&sjid=OgMEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6957,6334152&dq=transformers&hl=en The Toledo Blade]}}

{{quote|Even with an all-star cast doing the voice overs... and a rock music score, this is still nothing more than a ripoff of a successful toy line. |2=[http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=AYckAAAAIBAJ&sjid=dtsFAAAAIBAJ&pg=4192,1494652&dq=transformers&hl=en The Palm Beach Post]}}

{{quote|The great animated villains, like the Wicked Queen in Disney's "Snow White," had motivations as compelling as any live-action character. Unicron apparently destroys entire worlds because it has nothing else to do. |2=[http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/57996397.html?dids=57996397:57996397&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=Aug+8%2C+1986&author=CHARLES+SOLOMON&pub=Los+Angeles+Times+(pre-1997+Fulltext)&edition=&startpage=8&desc=%60THE+TRANSFORMERS%27%3A+STRETCHING+A+POINT The LA Times]}}

{{quote|A surprisingly dark, emotional, and almost excessively cynical experience for Transformers fans.|2=[http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_the_the_movie/ Rotten Tomatoes]}}

''The Transformers: The Movie'' was almost universally panned by professional critics upon its release.

Well-known film critic and animation enthusiast, Leonard Maltin, gave it a rating below 1 1/2 stars in his ''1987 Movie & Video Guide'', regarding it as a "bomb", then proceeded to write an unflattering blurb denouncing the film as a "feature-length toy commercial".

Caryn James of the ''New York Times'' admitted in the [[August 9]], 1986, edition of the paper that the film was intended for young children, pointing out that the kids in the audience were having a grand ole time with the ''Transformer'' toys and comics they brought with them to the theater, but derided the film as having little to no appeal to adults.

''Variety's Film Reviews 1985-1986, Volume 19 '' was far less even-handed in their review, claiming the film had no appeal to adults ''or'' children. They predicted the film would perform poorly in the box office (and were correct, in that regard).

Carrie Rickey of the ''Dallas Morning News'' chided the film in the [[August 13]], 1986, issue of the paper, describing it as "essentially a cartoon ''Star Wars'' about robots from a toybox galaxy far, far away". She then went on to say that the film "never takes off" and derided it as "uninspired".

Janice Kennedy of the ''Montreal Gazette'' verbally disemboweled the film in the [[August 23]], 1986, edition of the paper, criticizing it as overly commercial, profane, loud, violent, humorless, heavy-handed in its religious messages and chaulk-full of gratuitous celebrity voice-overs. Her only compliment: "But ''The Transformers: The Movie'' does have at least one good thing going for it, a howlingly appropriate song by [["Weird Al" Yankovic]]. It's title? ''Dare to be Stupid''." ''Ouch''.

Nanciann Cherry in the August 13, 1986, edition of the ''Toledo Blade'' claimed the robots in the movie had little personality and faded into the background. She even went on to say that ''[[GoBots]]: {{gb|GoBots: Battle of the Rock Lords|Battle of the Rock Lords}}'' was a superior film! Her review was filled with inaccuracies, however, citing characters such as "Unicon" and claiming that the destruction of Cybertron's moons by "Unicon" is what caused the Autobots to travel to Autobot City, at which point Megatron attacked. To be fair, she readily admits, "About 20 minutes into the film, I gave up on the plot and tried to count all the ideas that were stolen from other sources. Now that kept me busy." So she wasn't really paying attention, anyway.

Kathryn Buxton in the [[August 22]], 1986, edition of the ''Palm Beach Post'' gave the film a whopping ''one'' star, calling it "a ripoff of a successful toyline", whatever ''that'' means. In the same article, she also gave David Cronenberg's ''[[Fly|The Fly]]'' one star, just for reference.

In the August 8, 1986, edition of the ''LA Times'', critic Charles Solomon made clear his dislike for the film centered primarily on the fact that none of the characters had interesting or believable motivation. He stated, "Not even the best actor can create a character out of nothing. Not one of the robots has a reason for doing what he does." Solomon then pointed to Unicron specifically as an example of the lack of deep, multi-dimensional motivations in the characters.

Over time, however, the movie has acquired something of a cult following beyond the core base of [[fandom|Transformers fans]], particularly among children of the '80s. It is sometimes screened as a midnight movie at colleges. Online, it is not hard to find amateur reviews lauding everything about it as utterly awesome, from the premise to the soundtrack, and dismissing more critical views out of hand. ''The Transformers: The Movie'' currently holds a 60% "fresh" rating based on 25 professional reviews at online review aggregator Rotten Tomatoes.<ref>http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_the_the_movie/</ref> In response to the film's cult following, several reviewers have compared the film in a favourable light to the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]]s (prior to the unprecedented critical success of [[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]), stating that they lack the heart or nostalgia of the '86 movie.<ref>https://www.inverse.com/article/7309-6-enduring-legacies-of-1986-s-animated-the-transformers-the-movie</ref><ref>https://slate.com/culture/2007/07/transformers-why-the-original-animated-movie-is-still-the-best.html</ref><ref>https://www.cinemablend.com/new/Sorry-Michael-Bay-Why-1986-Transformers-Movie-Best-43582.html</ref>

===Box office===
An [[August 30]]th, 1987 ''Los Angeles Times'' article on the decline and fall of the DeLaurentiis Entertainment Group listed ''The Transformers: The Movie'' as grossing $2.6 million in the United States on a $5 million budget.<ref>https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-08-30-fi-5144-story.html</ref> Both it and ''My Little Pony: The Movie'' (which earned $2.8 million on a $5.5 million budget per that same article) were financial failures, together losing Hasbro about $10 million in an otherwise profitable year.<ref>[https://twitter.com/tfwiki/status/895169922678042625 Sherilyn Connelly in ''Ponyville Confidential'' citing a May 21st, 1987 ''Providence Journal'' article by Neil Downing, "Hasbro Sees Record Sales and Profits".]</ref>

Confusingly, in comparison to the ''Los Angeles Times'' article, modern box office tracking sites<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=transformers.htm</ref><ref>http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/1986/0TRTM.php</ref> list ''The Transformers: The Movie'' as having made $5,849,647 in domestic (e.g., United States) theaters. Comparing this with the other online box office takes from animated films of 1986, the results are not particularly charitable; while it did better financially than ''{{gb|GoBots: Battle of the Rock Lords}}''<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=gobots.htm</ref> ($1,338,264) and ''Heathcliff: The Movie''<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=heathcliff.htm</ref> ($2,610,686), it performed worse than the 1986 ''[[My Little Pony]]'' movie<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=mylittlepony.htm</ref> ($5,958,456) and the '''second''' ''Care Bears'' movie<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=carebearsmovie2.htm</ref> ($8,540,346). Bringing up ''The Great Mouse Detective''<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=greatmousedetective.htm</ref> ($25,336,794) and ''An American Tail''<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=americantail.htm</ref> ($47,483,002) would really just be overkill.

==Significance in Transfandom==
''The Transformers: The Movie'' remains one of the most important elements of the entire Transformers brand, both within the fiction and from the perspective of the brand's popularity and "mindshare".

Fictionally, it established several story concepts that have been used repeatedly in the years since 1986, some of which—such as Unicron and the Matrix—are now central to the entire Transformers mythos. The movie is also the centerpiece of the most well-known Transformers continuity: the Generation 1 animated universe. The ''Transformers'' cartoon is split into "pre-movie" and "post-movie" sections which feature different characters and settings, and even somewhat different visual styles. (Most pre-movie episodes were animated by the studio [[Toei Animation|Toei]], while most post-movie episodes were animated by [[AKOM]].)

On a practical note, it was widely available on videotape, and remained so long after the ''The Transformers'' cartoon had gone off the air. Only a [[Family Home Entertainment|handful of series episodes]] were available on video, making ''The Transformers: The Movie'' the logical choice for someone looking to pick up a ''Transformers'' cartoon; this made it far more well known among fans than any particular cartoon episode.

To an entire generation of young fans, the movie was the most visually spectacular and narratively epic ''Transformers'' experience of their entire youth. Events such as the death of Optimus Prime are widely reported to have reduced many kids to tears. It is hardly a surprise that these emotional experiences embedded themselves deeply in many fans' memories.

Latter-day ''Transformers'' stories have made uncountable references (though [[The Transformers: The Movie/references|we're trying]]) to the movie, lifting or borrowing elements of its [[Minus One|dialogue]], [[The Transformers: Autocracy|fight sequences]], [[A Flash Forward|subplots]], [[Heavy Is the Head|details]], [[Less Than Zero|settings]] and more, as writers have discovered that a shout-out to the movie is a quick and easy way to win cheers from [[GEEWUN|some segments]] of [[Fandom|their audience]]. Even Hasbro and Takara themselves have gotten in on the act, producing a variety of toys based on the minutia of the film: [[Starscream (Armada)#Cybertron|Starscream's crown]], [[Galvatron (G1)/toys#United|Galvatron's creation]], the awakening of [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Rodimus Prime]], and more. The fandom, for their part, pores over new ''Transformers'' fiction, often latching on to even the most tangential of details as a [[The Search for Alpha Trion#Quotes|"reference"]] to the movie, [[The Burden Hardest to Bear|coincidental or not]]. Call-outs, real or perceived, were once a rare treat - but now are so common that many fans are more likely to groan than cheer whenever some version of Optimus Prime declares that "[[One Shall Fall|One shall stand...]]" or a damaged character states that "[[Unfinished|I still function]]" or a vengeful blast is preceded by "[[The Illusion of Control|Here's a hint]]" or yet another Soundwave says yet another variation of "[[Human Error, Part II|Soundwave superior]]", or... well... this:

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File:Transformersanimatedfilmposter.jpg|'86
File:TFTM1.jpg|'86 again
File:Botcon2000-movieposter.jpg|2000
File:TFvol1 31cvrRI.jpg|2010
File:Timelines10 diamonded.jpg|2014
File:Echoes and Fragments cover.jpg|2016
File:LL1 Riptcvr.jpg|2018
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In 2016, thirty years after the release of the film, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Optimus Prime]] gave us perhaps one of the most meta comeback lines in franchise history. When [[Galvatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Galvatron]] declares that "Today — one shall stand, and two shall fall!", Optimus simply punches him in the face with a flat "No cliches, Galvatron", voicing once and for all just how sick we've gotten of '86 quotes. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 6: No Fair Fights|No Fair Fights}}

{{quote|...wait, I only just noticed something. Did they actually manage to go the entire episode without quoting the 86 movie?|[http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/94625-episode-65-beast-hunters-episode-13/page-4#entry2360303 Allspark poster Unit Eleven]}}

==Criticisms==
[[File:TFTM Ratchet dies.jpg|left|thumb|Only [[Stormtrooper (SW)|Imperial Stormtroopers]] are so precise.]]
All this is not all to say that the movie is a "masterpiece", exactly. The film met with extremely harsh critical reviews on its release, and some of those criticisms still ring true today.

The film displays an arguably cynical attitude towards itself as [[To sell toys|a vehicle for advertising toys]], especially in the way [[The Transformers (cartoon)/cast|beloved characters]] are killed—sometimes gratuitously—for sake of justifying the story's focus on a new group of toys. (Note that with the exception of Laserbeak and possibly Buzzsaw, the poster at the top of this article features ''only'' new characters.)

Further, the two primary plot devices—[[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]] and the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]]—have no prior establishment in the fiction. Unicron is given no backstory ([[Call of the Primitives|until season 3]]) or justification; he simply exists, is very dangerous, and is afraid of the Matrix, all for no adequately explained reason. The introduction of the Matrix itself is a heavy [[retcon]]. The story asks the audience to accept that this cosmically powerful artifact has been in Optimus Prime's possession all along (even though Prime's open-chested repair scene in "[[Divide and Conquer]]" and his X-ray scene in "[[A Prime Problem]]" show absolutely no signs of said Matrix), but has somehow never been relevant before. In fact, this lack of prior establishment is what led [[Simon Furman]] to develop the divinity backstory of Unicron and [[Primus]] in the UK comics run.

[[File:Megatronlightsaber.jpg|thumb|Your powers are weak, old man!]]
The movie bears many similarities to ''[[Star Wars (film)|Star Wars]]'': There are several character-parallels ([[Springer (G1)|Springer]] is a [[Han Solo]]-type and [[Arcee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Arcee]] even has Princess Leia's hairdo!), the primary threat is similar (it's the [[Death Star]]... [[Unicron/Generation 1|but it transforms!]]), and both feature a climactic battle where the [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|young hero]] hears the voice of his [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|dead, wise mentor]] one last time before saving the day.

To be a bit more fair to ''The Transformers: The Movie'', however, most of these similarities are either superficial (Arcee's Leia-hair; Megatron's "lightsaber" he briefly uses in his duel against Optimus Prime) or can be seen as elements common to thousands of years' worth of epic storytelling through human history, not just common to ''Star Wars''. As a simple example, the phenomenon of two charismatic leaders dealing each other mortal injuries in battle hearkens back to some versions of the "[[King Arthur]]" myth; in their final battle, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Arthur]] and his arch-enemy [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Sir Mordred]] deal one another lethal injuries and both apparently expire—though Arthur according to the legend will [[The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1|return]] when [[Cybertron (planet)|England]]'s need [[Darkest hour|is greatest]].
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==Formatting==
[[File:Tftm widescreenesque.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|The "widescreen" picture (left) actually ''cuts off'' the top and bottom of the fullscreen picture (right). Your eyes can deceive you; don't trust them.]]
Although it was billed in some advertisements before its theatrical release as being "widescreen", the movie was in fact animated in a 4:3 (fullscreen) aspect ratio. For its theatrical screenings, the film was matted down in the projector by the projectionist to a 16:9 aspect ratio (widescreen), chopping the top and bottom off the picture, but all video transfers of the movie were done without mattes, meaning that there was actually more picture visible in the fullscreen video and DVD releases than there would have been in theaters. Across 2006 and 2007, new editions of the DVD of the film were released by Sony BMG and [[Metrodome]] which applied the mattes in order to replicate the original theatrical presentation of the film for the first time in home entertainment. Some fans, however, didn't realize that the film wasn't actually ''animated'' in widescreen, and, hearing that the DVD was to be in widescreen, expected to see the fullscreen image with additional footage at the sides, causing them to complain that the top and bottom were cut off, thereby totally missing the point.
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==International versions==
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==Commercial releases==
[[File:TFTM LaserDisc cover.jpg|thumb|The cover image from the original Japanese home media release of the movie.]]
*The movie was originally released in North America on VHS and Beta on [[September 17]]th, 1987<ref>http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1964&dat=19870911&id=YhAuAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Ls8FAAAAIBAJ&pg=3198,2881581</ref> by [[Family Home Entertainment]], minus Spike's swear. Not long after, it was released in the UK by [[Video Gems]]. This version featured the opening text crawl and closing narration inherent to the UK version of the film. In Australia, the film was released on video by RCA/Columbia Pictures/Hoyts. In Japan, Hillcrane released a {{w|LaserDisc}} version alongside a VHS copy, both sporting a gorgeous painted cover that decorated many a fan's desktop back in the day.
*The movie was released spottily in the '90s, beginning with a budget VHS by Avid Home Entertainment in 1991. [[Malofilm]] released a VHS in Canada in 1995, notable for being the first home entertainment version to include Spike's swear. In 1998, Japanese company Pioneer produced another pair of LaserDisc and VHS releases. In 1999, things kicked off when American company [[Rhino Entertainment|Kid Rhino]] secured the Transformers license and released the film on VHS once again.
*The 21st century's flirtation with ''The Transformers: The Movie'' started with a UK budget VHS release of that country's version by [[Sony|Sony Wonder]], distributed by [[Maverick Entertainment]]. A Japanese company called CatCo followed this up with a VideoCD, and Malofilm—now Seville—were the first to release a DVD version of the film, though it was just a dump of their VHS version.
*In November 2000, ''The Transformers: The Movie'' got its first, full professional DVD release from Kid Rhino. This edition, labelled a "Special Collector's Edition", is the first to feature remastered video and audio, and several special features, including storyboards and an interview with [[Vince DiCola]]. Rhino concurrently released this version on VHS, sans extras.
*In 2001 in the UK, Sony Wonder released their own much-delayed DVD version of the film. It was the UK version of the film, but included Spike's swear. However, the release was burdened by badly interlaced video, though it notably included the [[Omni Productions]] dub version of the ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)|Headmasters]]'' episode "[[Four Warriors Come out of the Sky]]" as an extra. This version (including the ''Headmasters'' episode) was simultaneously released on VHS.
*The movie was released on DVD in Australia in 2003 by [[Madman Entertainment]], using the same video as the Maverick version, but distinguished by some nifty new cover art by [[Don Figueroa]], and special features not seen on other editions, such as ''[[Stan Bush|The Touch]]'' music video and 80s TV spots.
[[File:Tftm uk covers.jpg|thumb|The UK poster art (left) has been the most common DVD and VHS cover in its home country, but the Ultimate Edition featured new art by Andy Wildman (right).]]
*After acquiring the license to release ''Transformers'' DVDs in the UK, [[Metrodome]] focused on completing their run of series box sets before turning their attention to the movie properly, releasing only a cheap budget DVD of the UK version through Prism Leisure with no extras, and a UMD of the same version.
*In 2005, Metrodome released ''Transformers: The Movie - Reconstructed'', a new version of the film designed to expose as much of the animated picture as possible. This, however, only resulted in exposing the rough, unfinished edges of the animation, and an overly pale remaster was compounded by excessive interlacing due to an unnecessary NTSC to PAL transfer. This, coupled with a 5.1 remix from [[Magno Sound & Video]], featuring the same extra sound effects that they added to Rhino's season box sets, made this release both controversial and disappointing to many. This was the first time that the US version of the movie was released in the UK, and the first to feature the US poster art as a cover (although a Silverscreen store exclusive version of the disc included a reversible cover with the UK poster art as well). Extras include trailers, TV spots, the character biographies from the Madman release, a looped version of the Lion ''Transformers'' theme on the main menu, and a subtitled version of "[[Four Warriors Come out of the Sky]]".
[[File:Tftm sony covers.jpg|thumb|Sony's covers, by Don Figueroa.]]
*For the movie's 20th anniversary in 2006, new license holder [[Sony|Sony BMG]] released a two-disc special edition of the film, featuring both a high-quality widescreen remaster and the original fullscreen version, audio commentaries from crew and fans, several new featurettes interviewing those involved in the movie's production, storyboards, TV spots, American and Japanese commercials and more. Most notably, this version included the first Western release of "[[Scramble City: Mobilization]]", albeit silent and unsubtitled, featuring only audio commentary. Also very notable is that this version includes an actual deleted scene from the animated film as an extra, though it is more of interest as a curiosity than anything it actually contains, being an approximately 2-second-long aerial view of the Autobots running towards the critically damaged Optimus Prime. This release featured two covers by Don Figueroa: one is of the '84-'85 cast that appear in the movie, and one is of the movie's new characters, available either as a lenticular hologram that switches between the two, or as a reversible sleeve with the images printed on either side.
[[File:Tftm madman covers.jpg|thumb|Madman's 2003 DVD cover (left), and their 2007 Special Edition cover (right).]]
*Delayed a bit to coincide with the hype for the 2007 [[Transformers (film)|live-action movie]], Metrodome also released a two-disc "Ultimate Edition" with a different widescreen master. Like "Reconstructed", this version used the US edition of the film, but this time, the UK version was also included, in fullscreen, on the second disc. Extras include TV spots, commercials, the Madman biographies, storyboards, commentary, "Scramble City" (with audio and subtitles), featurettes with [[Flint Dille]] and [[Peter Cullen]], and more. The double-disc edition was sold in a steel case featuring new art by [[Andrew Wildman]], with the UK poster art adorning the standard case inside. Various store exclusives were available, including postcards from Play.Com, a reversible cover with the US poster art from HMV, art cards from Virgin Megastore and [[posters]] from Woolworths and [[Toys"R"Us]]. It was also available in an extra-less single-disc version. This version was premiered at the Mid Ulster Film Festival in Ireland which was the only cinema showing of the remastered version of the film to date.
[[File:ShoutFactory TFTM BluDVD.jpg|thumb|Shout! Factory's 2016 Blu-ray cover.]]
*The film was released in Full HD 1080p on Blu-ray in the UK in October 2007. The Blu-ray is not region-locked, so it will play anywhere in the world. It features a 2.0 soundtrack, 5.1 Dolby Digital track, and a full bitrate DTS 5.1 track. The master used was the same used by Sony for their US DVD. Sadly, there are no extras on the DVD. The version of the film on the Blu-ray is the US one, complete with curse words.
*Madman produced their two-disc special edition through some collaboration with Metrodome, and consequently it features much of the same content, with additional extras taking the form of The Touch music video and a bonus episode of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]''. This release again features cover artwork by Don Figueroa, specifically the cover of [[IDW Publishing|IDW]]'s ''[[Transformers: The Animated Movie]]'' adaptation.
*For the film's 30th Anniversary, and after being out of print in the US for 10 years, the film was rereleased on Region 1 DVD and given its first Region A Blu-ray release on [[September 13]], [[2016]] by [[Shout! Factory]]. Both versions are sourced from a brand-new 4K transfer which underwent extensive color-correction and remastering, and a Steelbook packaging variant of the Blu-ray was also made available.<ref>[https://www.shoutfactory.com/film/action-adventure/the-transformers-the-movie-limited-edition-30th-anniversary-steelbook The Transformers: The Movie Limited Edition 30th Anniversary Steelbook]</ref> The Steelbook Blu-ray was released in the UK by [[Manga Entertainment]] as a limited edition on December 12, 2016, followed by a standard edition release a year later.
*On September 27, 2018, Fathom Events screened the movie at select theaters in the United States. The movie was preceded by an interview with [[Travis Knight]] and [[Hailee Steinfeld]] and a preview of a scene from ''[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]'', and followed by a short featurette of Stan Bush discussing the music he contributed to the movie and performing acoustic versions of ''The Touch'' and ''Dare''.<ref>[http://news.tfw2005.com/2018/08/01/1986-transformers-movie-hitting-theaters-one-night-only-369314 1986 Transformers Movie Hitting Theaters One Night Only!]</ref> Cineplex would later show the movie in Canadian theaters on October 4.
*For ''The Transformers: The Movie''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s 35th anniversary, a Zavvi-exclusive Blu-ray cover with an optional steelbook was released on October 25, 2021 in the [[United Kingdom]], illustrated in the highly distinctive art style of [[Matt Ferguson]]. Themed clothing and variant prints also designed by Ferguson were simultaneously released as merchandise. Due to being exclusive to UK retailer Zavvi, the Blu-ray set could potentially be difficult for American collectors to track down.
*For the 35th anniversary in the U.S., Shout! Factory released an even-more-updated version of the steelbook Blu-ray on [[August 3]], 2021. This version boasted a new 4k transfer from the original film elements, as well as a feature-length storyboarding treatment.
*Fathom Events once again returned the film to select theaters on [[September 26]] - [[September 27|27]], 2021.

==Television broadcasts==
Following a segmented, five-part broadcast during [[The Transformers (cartoon)#Season 5|the fifth season of ''The Transformers'']], the complete feature film was aired on American television in 1989 via Fox stations. Air dates and times were June 17 at Noon, July 30 at 11 A.M. and September 2 at 10 A.M. Of course, this was the language-edited video release from Family Home Entertainment.

The movie was aired on [[Hub Network|The Hub]] on February 18, 2012, following [[Orion Pax, Part 1|the Season 2 premiere]] of ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' on what was called "Transformers Mega Saturday". Uniquely, this version combined the European opening narration with the US scrawl-free opening credits, muted the two swear words (rendering the lines as "It isn't even dented! ...What do we do now?!" and "Open... ''Open!''"), used the European closing narration at the end, and sped up the scroll of the end credits to cut it down for time, ending the lyrics of the [[theme song]] around the beginning of its second verse ("Strong enough to break the bravest heart..."). Subsequent re-airings on The Hub aired this version of the movie.

The American television airing of the feature film adds one extra sound effect, and it has never been heard in any other release. During the scene when Arcee is racing to jump aboard the departing Autobot shuttle, there is a distinctive sound effect when she jumps. In all other releases there is no sound effect.

A July 4, 2014 Hub broadcast of the movie markets it as ''Transformers: The Animated Movie'', distinguishing it from that computer animation/live action [[Transformers (film)|hybrid film]] with the similar title made two decades and one year later.

==Notes==
*According to [[Buzz Dixon]], Hasbro's decision to kill off Optimus Prime was actually an attempt to maintain some brand-storytelling parity with ''[[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]'', as Dixon had just convinced them to allow the death of [[Duke (G.I. Joe)|Duke]] in ''{{w|G.I. Joe: The Movie}}'' and both films were in production at the same time.<ref>http://www.joeheadquarters.com/interviews_dixon.shtml</ref>

*This film was the last professional performance by [[Orson Welles]], who died only a month later. According to production materials shown at [[BotCon 2000]] by Tim Finn, the voice recording sessions for ''The Transformers: The Movie'' were done on [[September 10]] and [[September 11|11]] of 1985. Welles died on [[October 10]] of that same year. It has often been speculated that Unicron's last line ("Destiny… you cannot destroy my destiny!") was recorded by another actor—possibly [[Leonard Nimoy|Nimoy]]—because it sounds different than the other lines. This speculation has been quashed by statements by Transformers voice director [[Wally Burr]].<ref>http://cybertronchronicle.freewebspace.com/60-astrominutes/wally-burr/wally-burr-3.html</ref>
[[File:Windcharger wheeljack otp.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Uncle Owen! Aunt Beru!!]]

*With the exception of Starscream and possibly Shockwave, only the Autobots suffered fatalities in the movie. All of the other "dead" Decepticons from the Autobot City battle were rebuilt into Galvatron's new troops, and although more Decepticons were shown taking heavy damage and suffering huge casualties while fighting Unicron, their identities and their final condition are uncertain. Additionally, both Starscream and Unicron survived in the post-movie series in some form or another. Shockwave's death in the finished film is highly uncertain, although in the script it is fairly strongly implied. He does make some miscolored appearances in crowd shots in later cartoon episodes, but these are probably examples of the fairly common animation errors in those episodes.

*Somewhat ironically, though only three of the original eighteen Autobots - [[Jazz (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Jazz]], [[Cliffjumper (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Cliffjumper]], and [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] - are definitively shown to have survived the movie, two would quite literally never be heard from again: [[Scatman Crothers]] passed away (though this didn't stop Jazz from making any number of background cameos) while Casey Kasem [[Casey Kasem#Notes|quit the show early in the third season]]. Fate's finger is fickle indeed.

*The Dinobots spend the majority of the film in their dinosaur modes, a practice that would eventually carry into season 3 of the cartoon. Swoop is the only one to spend extended amounts of time in robot mode, due to the anatomical issues of walking in a flight-based mode. However, there are some instances where they're briefly shown in robot mode for blink-and-you-miss-it moments, for no reason whatsoever.

*Unicron's roars in the movie were stock vocalizations originally created for Marvel Productions' 1982 ''The Incredible Hulk'' animated series and performed by voice actor Bob Holt, who voiced the [[Hulk]] in that show. Holt otherwise never voiced a character in the Marvel/Sunbow Transformers series (although he was a regular member of the ''{{gb|Challenge of the GoBots (cartoon)|Challenge of the GoBots}}'' cast as the original voice of [[Cop-Tur (GoBots)|Cop-Tur]]), and had passed away the year before ''The Transformers: The Movie'' was released in 1986. Thus, Unicron has the distinction of featuring ''two'' posthumous performances for the same Transformers character in a single production.

*[[:File:TFTM-MaybeBeachcomber.jpg|A robot resembling Beachcomber]] appears alongside Spike and the Autobots inside Unicron seconds before Daniel blasts the acid cover. Whether this was actually meant to be Beachcomber or just coincidental coloring is unknown, but regardless, Beachcomber shows up alive and well in "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5]]".

*Pieces of music from the movie would later be used in the Commodore 64 version of ''Turrican''. For instance, basically unaltered bits of "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWFx-Go6Y6A Escape]" make up [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6jjpwpDVNY Subsong Two of the game's title theme].

*In the years that have passed, production material has since surfaced that revealed some—if not all—the original 1984 and 1985 characters receiving color changes to their [[character model]]s for the movie, as shown by color layout charts. These so far include: [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]. Though these color charts exist, the final film did not utilize these changes to the character models, instead keeping with the original colors. A user on Allspark.com that goes by the username "DM" has worked hard to accurately recreate the original cartoon models with the correct colors based on color charts and original cartoon and film production material, and has likewise recreated these unused color concepts. Unfortunately, due to Allspark.com's server crash and overhaul in [[2021]], this thread no longer exists, aside from a few web archive captures that were made several months before the server crash. Luckily, friends of DM have worked hard to make sure his work is still widely documented on [https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/d-m-s-most-accurately-coloured-g1-animation-models-online.1201950/ TFW2005.]

* In {{w|The Goldbergs (2013 TV series)|The Goldbergs}} episode "The Darryl Dawkins Dance," set during the 1980s, Adam watches ''The Transformers: The Movie'' believing all his heroes from the TV series will survive, only to discover the devastating truth. He is especially hurt by the death of Optimus Prime, and recreates his own version of the movie at home with his grandfather dressed in a highly detailed homemade costume.
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==External links==
*[http://cybertronchronicle.freewebspace.com/cartoon-dossier/movie/movie.html ''The Transformers: The Movie'' Dossier at The Cybertron Chronicle]
*[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3212281345/weekend/ ''The Transformers: The Movie'''s box office domestic gross.]
*[http://web.archive.org/web/20080426020409/http://www.tftm.net/ ''The Transformers: The Movie'' "Unofficial Fansite", an extremely thorough site about the movie]
*[https://sunbowmarvelarchive.blogspot.com/p/mp-4034-transformers-movie-sunbow.html Draft scripts and storyboards on Sunbow and Marvel Archive]
*[http://zobovor.tripod.com/transformers_the_movie_bloopers.html The Transformers: The Movie Bloopers]

==References==
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|production company=[[Sunbow Productions]]
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|release date=[[August 8]], [[1986]]
|continuity=[[Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]
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{{quote|Conceived in the epic tradition of ''[[Star Wars (film)|Star Wars]]''...|[[Victor Caroli]] ain't just whistling Dixie|[[The Transformers: The Movie promo|''The Transformers: The Movie'' promo]]}}

'''''The Transformers: The Movie''''' is an animated feature film based on the original ''Transformers'' toyline. It was released in the United States on Friday, August 8, 1986.

The film's storyline follows the same continuity as the ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Transformers]]'' cartoon. It introduces a [[Scale|planet-sized Transformer]] called [[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]] who eats other planets, and is approaching [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. As part of their continuing wars, the [[Autobot]]s and [[Decepticon]]s have a [[Battle of Autobot City|fierce battle]] on [[Earth]] which sees both [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] mortally wounded. Prime passes the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] and dies, and Megatron is transformed by Unicron into [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]]. [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] (briefly) assumes leadership of the Decepticons, but is killed when Galvatron arrives at Cybertron. Galvatron then chases the surviving Autobots on Earth across space, splitting them up and taking the Matrix. The Autobots find their way back to each other, and follow Galvatron to Cybertron just as Unicron transforms into [[robot mode]] and begins to eat their world. Travelling inside Unicron, [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] recovers the Matrix, transforms into Rodimus Prime, and uses the Matrix to destroy Unicron.

Often referred to by fans simply as "the movie" or "TFTM", the movie was a step up in almost every area from the television series, with a more sophisticated plot, more serious treatment of war and violence, a hugely ambitious scope and a greatly increased animation budget with well-known celebrities providing voice work. For these reasons, the film remains very popular with children of the 1980s.

The film opens with characters who had been featured in the first two years of the toyline and associated media (cartoons, comic books, etc.), but quickly introduces new characters and kills many of the old ones to make room. Of particular note, Optimus Prime and Starscream are both destroyed during the course of the film.

{{quote|The Japanese have funded a full-length animated cartoon about the doings of these toys, which is all bad outer-space stuff. I play a planet. I menace somebody called Something-or-other. Then I'm destroyed. My plan to destroy Whoever-it-is is thwarted and I tear myself apart on the screen.|Orson Welles<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=KlqsYy512WIC&source=gbs_navlinks_s "Orson Welles: A Biography"] page 522</ref>}}

==Synopsis==
[[File:TFTM Unicron Lithone.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|That's no moon.]]
[[Unicron/Generation 1|A mechanical planet]] travels through the depths of space, attacking [[Lithone (planet)|a metal planet]] which has [[Lithone (species)|robotic inhabitants]]. Robots, vehicles, buildings, and even large chunks of rock are sucked off the surface and devoured by the monstrous planet.

It is the year [[2005]], and the [[Decepticon]]s are now in control of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. The [[Autobot]]s are preparing to launch an assault to retake the planet from hidden bases on two of Cybertron's moons. The Autobots launch a [[Autobot shuttle|shuttle]] to pick up a final shipment of [[energon]] from [[Earth]] before they strike.

[[File:Tftm1986a.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Commander, tear this ship apart until you've found those plans. And bring me the passengers; I want them alive!]]
Plans for the attack are overheard by [[Laserbeak (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Laserbeak]], who reports back to [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]]. The Decepticons attack the Autobot shuttle en route to Earth, wiping out its crew (including [[Ironhide (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ironhide]], [[Prowl (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Prowl]], [[Ratchet (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ratchet]] and [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]]). Using the Autobots' own shuttle, the Decepticons are able to get very close to the Autobots' base on Earth, [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]], before they are detected, and begin a devastating surprise attack on the unprepared city.

During the [[Battle of Autobot City|battle at Autobot City]], both [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] and Megatron suffer mortal injuries, and a number of others are also killed. Eventually the Decepticons retreat, but the damage suffered by the Autobots is severe.

[[File:Tftm1986b.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.]]
Shortly after the battle, Prime lies on his deathbed. He passes the reins of leadership to [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] and gives him the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. (Though [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] actually touches the Matrix before Magnus does.) Prime relates a prophecy: "One day, an Autobot shall rise from our ranks, and use the power of the Matrix to light our [[darkest hour]]." He then gives the oath, "[['Til all are one]]", and [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|dies]]. This sequence of events is observed remotely by Unicron, the monstrous planet, who appears unusually concerned by the survival of the Matrix.

The Decepticons are making their escape aboard [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], but are too heavy for him to get them all home under his own power. After putting the matter to a fair vote, the Decepticons decide to throw their injured members off the ship to better the chance of survival for the rest, including the mortally wounded Megatron. Too injured to save himself, [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] tosses Megatron out into space and claims leadership of the Decepticon army.

[[File:TFTM Starscream chucks Megatron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Into the garbage chute, flyboy.]]
Megatron and the other adrift Decepticons then encounter Unicron in interstellar space. Unicron offers to rebuild Megatron and his minions in exchange for their service. After some coercion on the planetoid's part, Megatron agrees, and is [[Reformatting|reformatted]] into [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]]. The other Decepticons are turned into [[Cyclonus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Cyclonus]], [[Scourge (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Scourge]], and the [[Sweep (G1)|Sweeps]]. Unicron provides them with a [[Revenge (G1)|ship]], and sends them to kill Ultra Magnus and destroy the Matrix, stating that the Matrix is the only thing which can stand in his way.

[[File:Tftm1986c.jpg|upright=1.1|left|thumb|Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed.]]
Galvatron first stops at Cybertron to take his revenge by killing Starscream and reclaiming leadership of the Decepticons. Almost immediately afterwards, Unicron arrives in Cybertron's vicinity and devours at least two moons—both of the Autobots' moon bases are destroyed. Under coercion by Unicron, Galvatron finally heads to Earth to kill Ultra Magnus, but Magnus and the other surviving Autobots flee in a pair of shuttles. Eventually Galvatron manages to cause one shuttle to crash on yet another metal planet ([[Quintessa (planet)|Quintessa]]), and detonates the other with a volley of missiles. However, the Autobots in the second shuttle escape unnoticed by separating the front portion of their shuttle just before impact.

[[File:TFTM Quintesson Palace.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Mos Eisley spaceport. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.]]
The Autobots in the crashed shuttle, Hot Rod, [[Kup (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Kup]], and the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], find themselves separated and in a hostile environment. Hot Rod and Kup are captured by a squad of [[Allicon]]s and taken before a [[Quintesson]] [[Quintesson#Judges|judge]] and his court. While being held there, they learn the name and nature of Unicron from [[Kranix (G1)|Kranix]], a survivor of the planet destroyed in the opening of the film, which he calls [[Lithone (planet)|Lithone]]. Meanwhile, the Dinobots encounter and befriend a young, wild Autobot named [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] who has been living alone on Quintessa. Together, they crash the trial just as Hot Rod and Kup are fighting losing odds against the Quintessons' [[Sharkticon (species)|Sharkticons]]. The tide is turned, and the Autobots commandeer a [[Quintesson Cruiser]].

[[File:Tftm1986d.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|What an incredible smell you've discovered!]]
The other group of Autobots has landed on the planet [[Junkion (planet)|Junkion]] to make repairs, but are attacked yet again by Galvatron, who was tipped off to their survival by Unicron. During the battle, Ultra Magnus tries to open the Matrix to use its power, but is unable to do so, and instead is killed. Galvatron absconds with the Matrix, taking it away to Unicron. The remaining Autobots—[[Perceptor (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Perceptor]], [[Blurr (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Blurr]], [[Springer (G1)|Springer]], [[Arcee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Arcee]], and [[Spike Witwicky (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Spike]]'s son [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel]]—are then ambushed by [[Junkion (species)|Junkions]], the eponymous natives of Junkion, who are also giant transforming robots. This battle is cut short, however, by the arrival of Hot Rod's group in their Quintesson ship. After exchanging the [[universal greeting]] they all make friends, and the Junkions restore Ultra Magnus to life. Together, the whole group travels to Cybertron to try to recover the Matrix and destroy Unicron.

[[File:TFTM Unicron smashes cybertron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Rebel base in range. You may fire when ready.]]
Galvatron attempts to open the Matrix to use its power against Unicron and force his master into submission, but is unable to open it. Unicron, not pleased with this attempted treachery, shocks Galvatron by transforming from a planet into a [[Scale|planet-sized robot]]. Unicron plucks Galvatron off his chest and swallows him, Matrix and all, and then begins attacking Cybertron itself. [[Shockwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Shockwave]] scrambles the Decepticon forces to defend the planet, but they are ineffective against so large an enemy. Shortly the Autobots arrive from Junkion, and fly the Quintesson ship straight through Unicron's eye. This impact destroys the ship, and the Autobots fall out inside Unicron. Hot Rod, separated from the others, eventually runs into Galvatron. During their fight, Hot Rod gets his hands on the Matrix and hears Optimus's voice speak the words, "Arise, Rodimus Prime." Hot Rod grows in stature, adopts a much sterner demeanor, and quickly dispatches Galvatron by tossing him through Unicron's hull out into space. He then opens the Matrix, which fills Unicron with light and begins destroying him.

[[File:Tftm1986e.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Use the Force, Luke.]]
In the meantime, the other Autobots inside Unicron have located some of their comrades from the moon bases who had been presumed dead, including [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] and Daniel's father, Spike. The Autobots, including Rodimus, escape through Unicron's remaining eye just as he begins to fall apart and explode. The scene then immediately shifts to the surface of Cybertron, where—for unclear reasons—the Autobots seem to be in charge again. Rodimus predicts an era of peace and prosperity, and the film closes with a shot of Unicron's severed head still floating in orbit around Cybertron.

[['Til all are one]].
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==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
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*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]])
*[[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime]] ([[Judd Nelson]])
*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] ([[Robert Stack]])
*[[Kup (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Kup]] ([[Lionel Stander]])
*[[Springer (G1)|Springer]] ([[Neil Ross]])
*[[Arcee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Arcee]] ([[Susan Blu]])
*[[Blurr (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Blurr]] ([[John Moschitta]])
*[[Grimlock (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Grimlock]] ([[Gregg Berger]])
*[[Perceptor (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Perceptor]] ([[Paul Eiding]])
*[[Blaster (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Blaster]] ([[Buster Jones]])
*[[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]] ([[Michael Bell]])
*[[Slag (G1)|Slag]] (Neil Ross)
*[[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]]
*[[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] ([[Frank Welker]])
*[[Ironhide (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ironhide]] (Peter Cullen)
*[[Prowl (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Prowl]] (Michael Bell)<ref group="fc" name="crednolines">Credited and appeared, but had no speaking lines.</ref>
*[[Jazz (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Jazz]] ([[Scatman Crothers]])
*[[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] ([[Dan Gilvezan]])
*[[Cliffjumper (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Cliffjumper]] ([[Casey Kasem]])
*[[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] ([[Corey Burton]])
*[[Gears (G1)|Gears]] ([[Don Messick]])<ref group="fc" name="creduncertain">Credited, but may or may not have appeared through an animation error.</ref>
*[[Auto-combatant]] (Frank Welker)
*[[Eject (G1)|Eject]]
*[[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]]
*[[Steeljaw (G1)|Steeljaw]]
*[[Ramhorn (G1)|Ramhorn]]
*[[Wheeljack (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Wheeljack]]
*[[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]]
*[[Ratchet (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ratchet]]
*[[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]]
*[[Grapple (G1)|Grapple]]
*[[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]]
*[[Hound (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hound]]
*[[Sunstreaker (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Sunstreaker]]
*[[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]]
*[[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]]<ref group="fc" name="crednoapp">Credited, but did not appear.</ref> ([[Walker Edmiston]])
|c2=
*[[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] (Frank Welker)
*[[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] ([[Leonard Nimoy]])
*[[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] ([[Chris Latta]])
*[[Cyclonus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Cyclonus]] ([[Roger C. Carmel]])
*[[Scourge (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Scourge]] ([[Stan Jones]])
*[[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] (Frank Welker)
*[[Devastator (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Devastator]] ([[Arthur Burghardt]])
*[[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]] (Michael Bell)
*[[Bonecrusher (G1)|Bonecrusher]] (Neil Ross)
*[[Hook (G1)|Hook]] (Neil Ross)
*[[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]] (Don Messick)<ref group="fc" name="appearnocredit">Appeared and had speaking lines, but not credited.</ref>
*[[Mixmaster (G1)|Mixmaster]]
*[[Long Haul (G1)|Long Haul]]
*[[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] ([[Hal Rayle]])
*[[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]] ([[Clive Revill]])
*[[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]]
*[[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] ([[Jack Angel]])
*[[Shockwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Shockwave]] (Corey Burton)
*[[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] ([[Bud Davis]])<ref group="fc" name="crednolines"/>
*[[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] ([[Ed Gilbert]])
*[[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] (Frank Welker)
*[[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] (Frank Welker)
*[[Laserbeak (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Laserbeak]] (Chris Latta)<ref group="fc" name="appearnocredit">Appeared and had speaking lines, but not credited.</ref>
*[[Ravage (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ravage]] (Frank Welker)<ref group="fc" name="appearnocredit">Appeared and had speaking lines, but not credited.</ref>
*[[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]]
*[[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]]
*[[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]
*[[Skywarp (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Skywarp]]
*[[Thundercracker (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Thundercracker]]
*[[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]]
*[[Sweep (G1)|Sweeps]]
*[[Cyclonus's Armada]]
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*[[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]] ([[Eric Idle]])
*[[Junkyard (G1)|Junkyard]] (Bell)
*[[Scrapheap (G1)|Scrapheap]] (Welker)
*[[Rubbish]]
*[[Re-Cycle]]
*[[Trashbin]]
*[[HAZMAT]]
*[[Ashtray]]
*[[Wasteoid Gamma]]
*[[Greasestain]]
|h4=Others|c4=
'''[[Human]]s'''
*[[Spike Witwicky (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Spike Witwicky]] (Corey Burton)
*[[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel Witwicky]] ([[David Mendenhall]])

'''[[Lithone (species)|Lithones]]'''
*[[Kranix (G1)|Kranix]] ([[Norman Alden|Norm Alden]])
*[[Arblus]]

'''[[Quintesson]]s'''
*[[Quintesson Prosecutor|Quintesson leader]] (Roger C. Carmel)
*[[Quintesson Judge]] ([[Regis Cordic]])
*[[Quintesson Bailiff]]
*[[Sharkticon (species)|Sharkticons]]
*[[Allicon]]s

'''Other'''
*[[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]] ([[Orson Welles]])
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==Quotes==
[[File:TFTM European intro.jpeg|thumb|upright=1.4|It is a period of civil war. Rebel spaceships, striking from a hidden base, have won their first victory against the evil Galactic Empire.]]
"Now all we need is a little energon and a lot of luck." 
"More than you imagine, Optimus Prime."
:—'''Optimus Prime''' and '''Megatron''' tempt fate.

"Such heroic nonsense."
:—'''Megatron''' coldly finishes off Ironhide. The 'Cons always get the best lines.

"First, we crack the shell... then we crack the nuts inside."
:—'''Rumble''' bravely raids Autobot City.

"I've got better things to do tonight than die!"
:—'''Springer''', telling it like it is.

"One shall stand. One shall fall."
:—'''Optimus Prime''' uttering the most quoted line of the Movie. An ass kicker cometh.

"Why throw your life away so recklessly?" 
"That's a question you should ask yourself, Megatron." 
:—'''Megatron''' and '''Optimus Prime''', about to engage in one last battle to the death.

"You, who are without mercy, now plead for it? I thought you were made of '''''sterner stuff'''''."
:—'''Optimus Prime''''s trash talk is actually [http://www.enotes.com/shakespeare-quotes/sterner-stuff a lot cooler than it sounds].

"I would have waited an eternity for this! It's over, Prime." 
"'''''NEVER!'''''"
:—'''Megatron''' is about to learn that a wounded '''Optimus Prime''' has enough strength left for one good hit.

"Until that day...'til all are one..."
:—'''Optimus Prime''''s final words.

"Oh, how it ''pains'' me to do this." 
"Wait! I still function!" 
"Wanna ''bet''?"
:—'''Starscream''' fights back the tears as he throws '''Megatron''' out of Astrotrain.

"Soundwave superior, Constructicons inferior."
:—'''Soundwave''' insults the combiner team.

"I have summoned you here for a purpose." 
"Nobody summons Megatron!" 
"Then it pleases me to be the first."
:—'''Unicron''' shows '''Megatron''' who's the boss.

"Who disrupts my coronation?" 
"Coronation, Starscream? This is bad comedy." 
"Megatron? Is that you?" 
"Here's a hint!"
:—'''Galvatron''' drops "hints" for '''Starscream''' like others drop anvils.

"Oh shit! What are we gonna do now!"
:—'''Spike''' says the movie’s most infamous line.

"Did we ''have'' to let them detonate three quarters of the ship?" 
"Seeing as how they would have detonated ''four'' quarters, I think it was a good choice."
:—'''Arcee''' and '''Springer''', debating the launch of their emergency shuttle.

"Spare me this mockery of justice!"
:—'''Kranix''' is upset at being found innocent.

"You check in, but you don't check out."
:—'''Wreck-Gar''' making a reference to the tagline from the "Roach Motel." commercials

"For a time... I considered ''sparing'' your wretched little planet Cybertron. But now... you shall witness... its ''dismemberment''!"
:—'''Unicron''' really needs to work on his anger management skills...

"Destiny... You cannot... destroy... my... destiny!"
:—'''Unicron''''s final words.

"Let this mark the end of the Cybertronian Wars as we march forward into a new era of peace and happiness! 'Til all are one!" 
:—'''Rodimus Prime''' announces the end of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]]...yeah, right.

==Season 5==
When ''The Movie'' was broadcast in [[The Transformers (cartoon)#Season 5|the fifth season]] of ''The Transformers'', it was broken into 5 parts (designated "Days") and given new bookending segments with original story material.

===Day One===
[[File:TommyPrimeSeason5BumperMovie.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|You just watch yourself. We're wanted men. I have the death sentence on twelve systems.]]
[[Tommy Kennedy|Tommy]] meets up with [[Powermaster]] [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] in the barren wasteland and Prime is concerned with the black eye and many bruises Tommy is sporting. Tommy explains that some "big guys" at school tried to rough him up (and by all visual evidence, succeeded). Tommy asks Prime if he'd ever faced any "big guys" in his many adventures and Prime decides to tell him about the time he faced the "biggest guy" of them all, [[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]]...

Optimus leaves off at the point during the [[Battle of Autobot City]] when Megatron broke their defenses to let the slaughter begin. Optimus gruesomely teases his own death scene to a very confused and concerned Tommy, but reassures him that until he can be revived as a Powermaster, the Matrix must be passed on to someone else who is worthy. Tommy wants to hear all about it, but Optimus doesn't have the time. Apparently, he needs to meet up with [[Joyride (G1)|Joyride]] and help him [[Space bridge technician|repair]] the [[Space bridge]]. Tommy asks if he can tag along and Optimus tells him that if he can lift one of their two-ton screwdrivers, he can even help. They summarily blast off into space.
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===Day Two===
[[File:PrimeExplodingMemoryChip.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.1|I've lost R2!]]
Tommy and Optimus meet up in the barren wasteland, though Prime isn't sure what Tommy wants. Tommy reminds him that he promised to tell him more about Unicron and Prime concedes that he's been having trouble with his memory chip, lately. Tommy tells him all about the Battle of Autobot City, but none if it rings a bell for Optimus. Prime asks Tommy to open up an access panel in the back of his head and check the circuit. Tommy repairs the circuit, jogging Prime's memory...

Prime leaves off at the point where [[Jazz (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Jazz]] and [[Cliffjumper (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Cliffjumper]] are eaten by Unicron. Tommy demands to hear more of the story, but Prime's memory chip explodes and smoke pours from the side of his head. All he sees are brief flashes of the further adventures of [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] and the rest. The furthest he can see, though, is the "death" of [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] when his shuttle is blown up by [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]]. Tommy expresses discontent, citing that the Autobots are "too cool to die". Prime says he knows there's more to the story, but with his faulty memory chip, he can't access the details. Tommy insists they get his chip fixed and so they blast off into space to do just that.
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===Day Three===
[[File:TommyKennedyTraumatized.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|I can't even see. How am I supposed to fight?]]
Tommy finishes the repairs on Prime's memory chip, much to Prime's relief. Tommy asks Prime to test it out by continuing his story about the battle against Unicron. Prime indulges Tommy's request...

Prime leaves off at the point where [[Kup (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Kup]] and Hot Rod are taken to the [[Sharkticon (species)|Sharkticon]] pits and watch as the survivors of [[Lithone (planet)|Lithone]] are executed. Tommy begs Prime to stop, claiming that the story thus far is too intense and depressing for him to handle. Prime asks if he wants to hear about how Kup and Hot Rod are fed to the Sharkticons, how the Autobots are menaced by "aliens made of junk" or how Ultra Magnus is blown to pieces by [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]]. Tommy suddenly changes his mind and demands to hear all the gory, macabre details. Prime sets Tommy back down in the barren wasteland and promises to return soon to transform his day into an adventure. He then blasts off into space.
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===Day Four===
[[File:PrimeTommyStopMotion.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.1|If there's a bright center to the universe, you're on the planet it's farthest from.]]
Tommy and Optimus meet up once again in the barren wasteland. Tommy asks why Prime is so late for their appointment and Prime confesses that [[Grimlock (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Grimlock]] took a wrong turn on the way over. Prime wishes he hadn't let the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]] fly the shuttle. Tommy asks if Prime has enough time to tell him more of the story and Prime assures him there's time enough...

Prime leaves off at the point where the Autobots team up with the [[Junkion (species)|Junkion]]s to battle Unicron. Tommy is incredulous, wondering what a bunch of aliens made of junk could possibly contribute to the battle against Unicron. Prime informs him that great adversities often bring out the best in people, citing Hot Rod as an example. Tommy begs to hear how the story ends, but Prime says that he must first take Grimlock to have his "brain circuits" upgraded. Setting Tommy down, Prime promises to be back soon to transform his day into an adventure. Then he blasts off into space.
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===Day Five===
[[File:StanBushTheTouchMusicVideoRecordLabelNotes.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|He made a fair move. Screaming about it won't help you.]]
Meeting again in the barren wasteland, Optimus asks Tommy if he's ready to hear the end of the story. Contrary to all the enthusiasm Tommy has shown during past storytimes, the human child laments that he's forgotten most of the tale thus far (offering the flimsy excuse that his lack of an electronic brain makes remembering so many details impossible). Prime gives him "a quick rundown" (that takes ''four minutes'') and then proceeds to finish the epic yarn...

Prime finishes the story with the destruction of Unicron, the ascension of Rodimus Prime and the exile of the Decepticons. Prime asks Tommy if he's satisfied, but Tommy just has more questions. Like what was up with the [[Quintesson]]s? Did they drop Grimlock on his head when he was a kid? And how did they ever bring Prime back to life? Prime tells Tommy to slow down. He has to attend an interstellar peace conference, but until he returns, he leaves Tommy with... [[The Touch|THE TOUCH!!!]]
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==Production timeline==
* First script outline by Ron Friedman: revisions from 15th August 1984 to 19th September 1984
* First draft script by Ron Friedman: submitted November 12th 1984. Revised February 13th 1985.
* Reference photos of Powered Convoy toy designated as Ultra Magnus, provided to Ron Friedman: Taken 18th March 1985
* Second script outline by Ron Friedman: revised 28th March 1985
* Second draft script by Ron Friedman: completed 27th April 1985. Revised 2nd May 1985
* Model sheets approved 14th June 1985: Cyclonus, Galvatron (Marvel model with revised head), Hot Rod, Kranix (the pre-final model, can be seen with Granix name on it), Quintesson Judge (colour approved on 18th November 1985 by J. Bacal), Rodimus Prime, Scourge/Sweep, Sharkticon, Unicron robot mode, Wheelie, Wreck-gar
* Model sheets approved 24th June 1985: Ultra Magnus robot mode(first Powered Convoy version)
* Model sheets approved 2nd July 1985: Ultra Magnus (Initial Toei design. Colour revised on 20th July 1985)
* Model sheets approved 19th July 1985: Arblus robot mode, Spike (final model), Ultra Magnus vehicle mode(first Powered Convoy version)
* Model sheets approved 29th July 1985: Quintesson Prosecutor (a.k.a Quintesson leader. Approved by J. Bacal on 18th December 1985)
* Model sheets approved 31st July 1985: Arblus spaceship mode
* Model sheets approved 6th September 1985: Rewind flip side of the cassette mode
* Dialogue recording (main sessions): 10th and 11th September 1985
* Model sheets approved 3rd October 1985: Rewind and Eject
* Model sheets approved 8th October 1985: Lithonian Scientist, Lithonian Woman no.1

* Storyboard sequence 1 (Attack on Lithone): Final 31st October 1985
* Storyboard sequence 2 (Title sequence): Final 31st December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 3 (2005): Final 31st October 1985
* Storyboard sequence 4 (More Than You Imagine): Final 31st October 1985. Revised Final 14th November 1985.
* Storyboard sequence 5 (Attack On The Shuttle): Final 31st October 1985
* Storyboard sequence 6 (Gone Fishin'/Dare): Final 4th November 1985. Revised Final 14th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 7 (Battle Of Autobot City, part 1): Final 14th November 1985. Revised Final 25th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 8 (Battle Of Autobot City, part 2): Final 31st October 1985. Revised Final 14th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 9 (Death Of Optimus Prime): Final 7th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 10 (Witness To A Funeral): Final 7th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 11 (Contest For Leadership): Final 4th November 1985. Revised Final 13th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 12 (Transformation): Final 11th November 1985. Revised Final 26th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 13 (Coronation): Final 10th December 1985. Revised Final 18th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 14 (Destruction Of Moonbase One): Final 10th December 1985. Revised Final 19th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 15 (Escape): Final 16th December 1985. Revised Final 24th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 16 (Pursuit): Final 12th December 1985. Revised Final 26th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 17 (Nothin's Gonna Stand In Our Way): Final 11th November 1985. Revised Final 25th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 18 (Arrival On Junk): Final 12th November 1985. Revised Final 25th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 19 (Unwelcome Visitors): Final November 14th 1985. Revised Final 27th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 20 (The Matrix Survives): Final 12th November 1985. Revised Final 25th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 21 (An Unexpected Friend): Final 18th December 1985. Revised Final 26th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 22 (Destruction Of Moonbase Two): Final 17th December 1985. Revised Final 26th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 23 (Ambush): Final 11th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 24 (Judgement/Rescue): Final 12th December 1985. Revised Final 26th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 25 (Another Leader Dies): Final 9th December 1985. Revised Final 26th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 26 (Unusual Allies): Final 19th December 1985. Revised Final 31st December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 27 (The Enemy Revealed): Final 12th December 1985. Revised Final 26th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 28 (Confrontation): Final 19th November 1985. Revised Final 6th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 29 (United Against The Enemy): Final 20th November 1985. Revised 4th December 1985. Revised Final 6th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 30 (In The Belly Of The Monster): Final 20th November 1985. Revised 3rd December 1985. Revised Final 6th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 31 (Their Darkest Hour): Final 2nd December 1985. Revised 19th December 1985. Revised Final 31st December 1985

==Credits==
{{see|The Transformers: The Movie/credits}}

==Animation errors==
[[File:TFTM Unicron Small.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|We’re doomed.]]
*When Unicron is approaching Lithone at the start of the movie, at the line "Look, it's Unicron!", a [[Animation error#Sizing errors|cel stacking error]] results in Unicron's ring appearing in front of a building arch, [[Distribution|making Unicron look very tiny]] in that shot. In the next shot, it is clear that Unicron is several times larger than the entire planet of Lithone.
*The inside of one of the Lithonian ships being devoured by Unicron is visible for a couple of frames. The pilot of the ship appears to be Kranix, even though he apparently screams out Kranix's name, and Kranix appears later in the Quintesson prison.
*When Optimus Prime asks Jazz to report security status, it shows both Jazz and Cliffjumper. Cliffjumper is seen twiddling knobs above the actual drawn computer, as if a section was supposed to be present.
*Coloring errors:
**When the closeup of Cliffjumper doing his countdown is shown, his shoulders are blue (like his windows) instead of red.
**Scavenger's head is white instead of black as he ducks from Prowl's shot aboard the shuttle.
**Blaster's forehead is red instead of white after his "look out and shout!" line, and again after he returns to [[robot mode]].
**In the big lineup of firing Decepticons in Autobot City, Soundwave's cheek guards are blue instead of white.
**When Blaster asks Perceptor "What's shakin'?", a Dirge-colored Seeker flies by the window. However, it appears to be the standard Starscream/Thundercracker/Skywarp design, instead of having Dirge's unique wings.
**As Devastator lays into the walls, Shrapnel is white where he should be black.
**Megatron's pelvis is white instead of black as he gives the "let the slaughter begin!" order.
**When the Dinobots jump out of Optimus Prime's Shuttle, the shuttle is colored like the first shuttle, which Megatron boarded, instead of red-highlighted scheme of Prime's shuttle.
**When Prime says "No matter the cost", the shuttle is painted completely orange, when the front should have red and white highlights.
**When Prime drives up behind the Decepticons, Blitzwing's helmet is purple instead of yellow. Prime's trailer is missing its Autobot symbol as well.
**The gun Megatron uses to fatally injure Optimus is blue and white for most of the shots it is seen in, but when Megatron screams "Fall! FALL!" while shooting Prime again, it is black.
**Prime's antennae are white as he tries to stand after knocking Megatron off the ledge.
**Starscream's whole nosecone, rather than just the canopy, is yellow as he looms over the fallen Megatron.
**As Starscream prepares to toss Megatron out the door, Soundwave's eyes are painted white like his mask rather than red. (Maybe he was sleeping, his excuse for not stopping Starsceam)
**Starscream's cockpit shell nearest his head is colored like a canopy rather than gray, as he nominates himself for leadership. Man, even the A-list animation team couldn't keep this straight.
**When dragging Arcee into the shuttle and two shots later when flying into space Magnus's Shuttle has Blue highlights instead of Red.
**After Springer runs past him, Perceptor's gun changes from red to white for a few frames.
**When Cyclonus is strafing what appears via editing to be Hot Rod's shuttle, it has red highlights instead of blue.
**When Hot Rod's ship is being watched by Galvatron trailing smoke it has red highlights instead of blue.
**In the shot after Magnus announces that he cannot deal with that now, his ship has blue highlights instead of red.
**Shrapnel's lower legs are white when he lands on Junk, instead of black. Must be a side effect of being dead.
**When Hot Rod tells the Junkions the universal greeting, the Autobot insignia on his chest is colored black.
**After transforming, Unicron has all-white hands (instead of white with gold knuckles) and a white, rectangular chin (instead of the double-triangular chin with a goatee) he has later.
**As the Autobots fly through space after exiting Unicron's eye, Rodimus is painted in Ultra Magnus' colors (inverted).
*When the Decepticons blow a hole through the Autobot shuttle to get in, it is a clean break. However, Megatron is still shown ripping through random ship components to get in.
*When the Decepticons are killing the Autobot shuttle crew, there is one of the common Starscream/Skywarp/Thundercracker miscolors. Megatron transforms into gun mode and Starscream catches him, killing Brawn. When they cut back to the Decepticons, Starscream moves back to avoid the Autobots' fire, and a ''second'' Starscream is in front of the Constructicons without Megatron and is firing one of his arm rifles (this was probably meant to be Skywarp, as he flies into the shuttle and takes a seat at the controls once the Autobots are defeated). When they cut back to the Decepticons for the third time, Starscream has Megatron again and is finishing off the rest of the Autobots. In the shot of Starscream firing his own lasers, his wings are red instead of gray.
*Per his standard cartoon appearance, Ratchet should have a [[Red Cross]] symbol on each shoulder. When he turns in his seat as Brawn is shot down, we can see one on his right shoulder, but when he stands to return fire on the Decepticons, the right shoulder's cross has vanished, and he's only got one on his left shoulder. Then, when he falls, the cross is missing from ''both'' shoulders.
*When the Decepticons fly to the shuttle's controls:
**All of the Autobots have changed positions from when they fell—Brawn is now on his back, for example, while Prowl is now face-down.
**Ironhide's chest is completely intact, despite having a bunch of holes blown in it.
**Prowl, who turned gray as he fell (evidently dead before he even hit the floor) seems to be back in his normal colors.
*The reflections of Hot Rod and Daniel in the lake rarely line up with where they should be.
*When Hot Rod catches a fish, it is barely the size of his finger. When he releases it, it's [[Scale|suddenly huge]].
*Hot Rod has at least two totally different transformation schemes during the course of the film.
*When Hot Rod begins to shoot at the hijacked Autobot shuttle, the yellow light on his forehead is misaligned.
*When Kup and several Autobots at the roadblock react to Hot Rod's attack on the hijacked Autobot shuttle, Bluestreak is represented by Prowl's [[Character model|animation model]], in Bluestreak's gray and black colors.
*Sunstreaker appears with Kup's group on Earth as they observe Hot Rod firing on Ironhide's shuttle. Sunstreaker later appears as Optimus Prime's co-pilot when they arrive on Earth with the Dinobots, and is seen disembarking the shuttle along with Optimus Prime and Hound.
[[File:ShockwaveBattleAutobotcity.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|We've picked up a new group of signals... enemy fighters heading your way.]]
*In a wide aerial shot of the city under attack, a Reflector flies by in Ironhide's color scheme. Shockwave also makes his only appearance in the battle; considering both his role as Cybertron's guardian and his absence from any other scenes during the battle, his presence is probably an animation error. Rumble also flies past, despite being inside Soundwave at this point.
*A laser blast that should be behind Blaster is instead layered in front of him as he acknowledges Perceptor's orders.
[[File:TFTMRumbleFrenzytwored.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|[[FIRRIB|What]] about that [[R2-D2|blue one]]? We'll take that one.]]
*When [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] sends out his cassette troops, [[FIRRIB|Rumble is the same color as Frenzy]].
*Blaster first ejects what looks like Eject, who stays blue up until he gets to the edge of the screen. He then turns black like Rewind. Then Blaster ejects another blue cassette, which after about a second turns black. This one gets through half his transformation colored black, then turns blue for a split second then turns black again. Then, when the cassettes are fighting each other, Eject runs in from the left and jumps over Perceptor. And then he runs in from the left ''again'' to shoot Ravage.
*As Springer runs up to the launcher, Wheeljack's body is visible, but he's in the red, white and blue color scheme of Smokescreen - who, in the storyboards of this sequence, was intended to be the one lying there dead.
*While Springer and Arcee are trying to move the launcher into place, Springer's face is the same color as his helmet.
*During Devastator's combination sequence in Autobot City, his chest plate, portions of his pelvis, his forearms, and Bonecrusher's treads are all green. The chestplate and pelvis should be purple, as should Bonecrusher's treads (they're ''normally'' green when Bonecrusher is separate, but they turn purple when he combines), and his forearms should be black.
*For almost the entirety of his screen time during the battle in Autobot City, the "jet engine" on top of Devastator's chest plate is misinterpreted as a trapezoidal block. The only time it appears in its proper shape is when he high-kicks Grimlock. It appears as it should during the scuffle on Astrotrain.
*While Perceptor and Grapple are shooting, Swoop's lower half runs by in the foreground, long before the rest of him gets there.
*Prime's dramatic transformation sequence far outlasts the transformation sound that's supposed to go with it. It's also the wrong sound (ascending pitch) for his robot-to-vehicle transformation. His trailer is also missing the Autobot logo, which reappears for the rest of the scene.
*Prime is missing the transformation sound as he blasts back to robot mode.
*The gun Megatron fires uses the same sound effect as his fusion cannon.
*When Optimus Prime takes the Matrix out of his chest to give to Ultra Magnus, the animators forgot to remove the cel of the Matrix inside his chest, as it's still in there even as he's holding it in his hands. Since it's not supposed to be there, the luminous effect for the Matrix's core is missing from the duplicate in his chest, creating a visual trick that makes it look like Optimus might just have removed the core itself. (The [[Matrix of Leadership#Universe|''Universe'' comic]] would later use this error as a springboard to reconcile the visuals of Optimus's chest interior with their depiction in ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]''.)
*When Ultra Magnus accepts the Matrix, he's seen inserting it into his chest twice, or at best readjusting its "fit".
*As the other Decepticons prepare to push him out, Bombshell's chest is rendered as a shapeless gray mass, rather than with its yellow canopy.
*The voice that says, "Brothers! Don't!" is nowhere close to the voices of any of the five Decepticons shown getting thrown out of Astrotrain.
*When Megatron says "Nobody summons Megatron" his chest emblem is colored gray like his chest. It looks like it should have been painted as a darker shade of purple, as it's the shadowed section. But was painted gray instead.
[[File:TFTMStarscreamCoronationErrors.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4| *''trumpet fanfare''*]]
*Even after the [[Battle of Autobot City]], characters who are supposedly dead continue to appear in crowd shots and battles. Shrapnel's role in the fight on [[Junkion (planet)|Junk]] is the most noticeable (and he was called for by name in the original script), but Thundercracker, Skywarp and Kickback can all be seen at Starscream's coronation. The two jets are later seen again, flying into Unicron's mouth.
*In the establishing shot of Starscream's coronation, there are only five Constructicons (Bonecrusher had better things to do tonight) and they are miscolored as purple and white rather than their usual purple and green color scheme.
*Hook has two eyes instead of his normal visor as he looks around in confusion during the trumpet scene.
*An early establishing shot clearly shows Cybertron with two and ''only'' two moons in low orbit. Yet a third moon is visible right after Unicron finishes eating the two Autobot bases.
*When Galvatron introduces himself to the Coronation party, Soundwave's chest window is drawn far too small.
*When Galvatron says "Decepticons, to Earth!", aside from his mouth being partially open, his mouth doesn't move. I guess being reformatted by Unicron gives you the ability to talk without moving your mouth?
*In the scene where Bumblebee and Spike are in the [[Autobot frigate]] and escaping Moonbase Two's destruction, when the two are cheering after believing that Unicron has been destroyed, Bumblebee's on the left side of Spike's seat. However, after Spike expresses his "colorful" reaction to Unicron remaining completely unscathed, and when the frigate is about to get sucked into Unicron, Bumblebee is on the right side of Spike's seat.
*When Cyclonus is strafing the Autobot shuttle in space, he briefly flies offscreen, and during that time his laser blasts come from a point that in no way matches his flight path.
*During the wide shot of the Autobots in the crashed ship on Junk, Blurr's entire head is white. Also so is Daniels head, which is drawn as an indistinct incomplete circle.
*Daniel's lips don't purse when he whistles.
*Wreck-Gar's mouth doesn't move at all during his first lines, despite the camera pushing in all close on his face.
*The pistol Ultra Magnus fires uses the same sound effect as Optimus Prime's rifle.
*During the Junkion chase scene, Trashbin attacks Arcee. When she fights him off his motorcycle, his model is switched for Junkyard's when he falls down. And his head then flickers between colors when mounting Junkyard.
*When Grimlock gets kissed, his eyes are round instead of triangular.(Probably intentional expression)
*As Hot Rod falls off one of Unicron's inner spikes, his lower body isn't drawn in. It looks like it should be blocked by our view of the spike, but is layered above it instead.
*Hot Rod's missing his Autobot symbol as he regains his footing inside Unicron.
*As the Dinobots fly around Unicron, both his eyes are intact. (The left one had at this point been shattered.)
*The third smelting victim (who looks a lot like another Bumblebee) doesn't fall from the conveyor belt; he simply vanishes.

== Continuity errors ==
[[File:G1TFTM Snarl cameo.JPG|thumb|upright=1.4|He used to bulls-eye womp-rats in his T16 back home.]]

*The Dinobot [[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]] is mysteriously absent from almost the entire movie, even though the Dinobots as a group are featured prominently. Copies of the script which have come into fans' hands repeatedly list the Dinobots, but never make mention of Snarl by name. In fact, at one point the script refers to "the four Dinobots". Despite this, Snarl does appear in three very brief shots—in which at least one other Dinobot (Swoop in one, Sludge in another) is entirely absent. Hmm.
** On the other hand, the original production ''storyboards'' for the scene where Snarl first appears in the movie only mentions "the Dinobots", not a specific amount of them. Additionally, Snarl also seems to have been in the scene with Kup telling the Dinobots a story in at least ''one'' version of the film; the Japanese trailer for the movie has finished footage of this scene...but it's very different from the one in the film; the Dinobots are all in their robot modes, and Snarl is present in the scene instead of Slag. It's completely unknown why Snarl's appearance in this scene was cut.
*Also curiously absent are the 1985 Autobot cars and Mini-Vehicles, such as Inferno, Smokescreen, Cosmos, Warpath, etc. It would seem that these characters were available at the time of the movie:
**Perceptor and Blaster both debuted at the same time in the cartoon as the 1985 cars, and both play prominent roles in the movie.
**Grapple is [[:File:BattleAutobotCity.jpg|seen ''very'' briefly]] during the battle for Autobot City. Or maybe it's [[Hauler]].
**The 1985 Decepticons (Astrotrain, Dirge, etc.) appear in the film.
**[[:File:TFTM-SideswipeRedAlertTracks.jpg|Tracks]], [[:File:TFTM-RedAlertDown.jpg|Red Alert]] and Smokescreen (who was supposed to be the corpse in place of Wheeljack next to Windcharger) all appeared in storyboards but not the finished film.
*Devastator is treated as ''the'' ultimate threat, while in the cartoon, his role (and apparent power) was already being [[Starscream's Brigade|severely diminished]], presumably because several other combiners had been introduced. In story terms, the absence of these newer combiners, not to mention the mighty Omega Supreme, is inexplicable. In real-life terms, those characters didn't exist when the film commenced production. (The ''[[Transformers: The Animated Movie]]'' adaptation shows Omega Supreme, Superion and Defensor guarding the Ark against an attack by Bruticus and Menasor, attempting to [[retcon]] the problem away.)
*Possibly the biggest example of the film's tonal shift from the cartoon, shots from firearms that would previously knock another character down at best have since become lethal, best demonstrated when Brawn and Prowl are each killed with a single shot by the Decepticons during the movie's first act.
**While Prowl, Ironhide and Ratchet are shot straight through the torso, Brawn is killed by a single shot to his shoulder, which makes little sense.
[[File:Cyclonus armada tftf.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|We'll be safe enough once we make the jump into lightspeed.]]
*The existence of Cybertron's moons is contentious ''at best''.
**On the one hand, in numerous close and distant shots of the planet throughout the first two seasons, not a single moon was seen. Ever. Even after it got knocked out of Earth's orbit.
**On the other hand, Megatron ''does'' refer to Cybertron as "land of the metal moon" (note the singular) during "[[Microbots]]", suggesting otherwise. The fact that he was overenergized at the time and lost consciousness in mid-sentence - just before he ''might'' have specified a plural number of moons, (in)conveniently enough - makes it unclear just how much credence we should lend this statement.
**The movie promptly introduces two (possibly three) moons over the planet. In continuity terms, they must either have highly elliptical orbits with periapsides (points in their orbits that bring them closest to the planet) that just happened to coincide with the timeframe of the movie or they were constructed sometime after 1986.
*During the Battle of Autobot City, Starscream gets his leg caught. He shoots downward and gets away while screaming "My foot!", but it's his shin that's smoking while his foot looks fine. Later he kicks Megatron with the same foot. Shouldn't that hurt, according to him?
*So Ultra Magnus just happens to have a ready-made Matrix chamber installed in his chest cavity? Is this standard issue for all Autobots?
*The cartoon had already established that Astrotrain increases his size when he transforms to shuttle mode, being large enough to carry a pair of Decepticons in his cockpit. However, within the movie itself, his size is [[scale|noticeably inconsistent]]: When he leaves Autobot City, he's just large enough for the Decepticon army to cram themselves in; later, he's so huge that the Constructicons can quite comfortably form Devastator inside him. Perhaps he continued expanding when transforming from train to shuttle mode?
*Speaking of which, Astrotrain's entire body flips over when he transforms from train to space shuttle to escape from Autobot City. While ''we'' applaud the [[Show-accuracy|toy-accuracy]], the Decepticons inside probably didn't.
*Soundwave is loyal enough to pick up a wounded Megatron and save him, but when Starscream goes to throw Megatron out, Soundwave doesn't try to intervene. He even tries to steal the leadership once Megatron is gone. The "loyalty" attribute that has pertained so strongly to Soundwave seems to be alienated from the character in this scene.
*The number of minions created by Unicron changes throughout the film, with more Sweeps appearing as the story progresses. A second Cyclonus ("Cyclonus, the warrior, and [[Cyclonus's Armada|his armada]]") is shown being created but disappears shortly thereafter. At least ''seven'' new characters are shown at one point, created from only ''six'' Decepticons thrown from the shuttle.
*How can the Constructicons blow on those trumpets? Only [[Hook (G1)|three]] [[Bonecrusher (G1)|of]] [[Mixmaster (G1)|them]] have mouths.
[[File:SSBQ.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|"I've been looking forward to this for a long time." "Yes, I bet you have."]]
*[[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] is capable of reducing [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] to ashes with a single shot from his cannon mode. Though in later episodes Galvatron is shown blowing up even small ''[[Thrull|planets]]'' and being able to take down [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] with one shot from his cannon, his extraordinary killing power seems to be gone—like when he scores a direct hit in cannon mode on Ultra Magnus in "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5]]" and Magnus isn't especially hurt at all, or how a similar blast against Scourge in "[[The Burden Hardest to Bear]]" only leaves the latter temporarily incapacitated. [[Marvel Comics]] bios explain this by suggesting that Galvatron had nearly limitless power through Unicron... but then again, Galvatron himself claims to be "more powerful than ever" after Unicron is dead in "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 2]]". [[To sell toys|Who knows.]]
*Why didn't the Autobots notice Unicron until he was within devouring distance of Cybertron's moons? Why doesn't Shockwave, who is ''on Cybertron,'' react until after Unicron has eaten these moons, transformed into a giant robot, and ''smashed his hand into the planet's surface?''
*Despite running out of energon goodies on Quintessa, Hot Rod has at least one to offer to the Junkions.
*How did Hot Rod and Kup know to fly from Quintessa to Junk?
[[File:TFTMStarscreamVsUnicron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|This is either Starscream or his stunt double; hard to tell.]]
*When the Decepticons on Cybertron launch a counterattack on Unicron, all three of the first-year Seekers are seen fighting alongside the Coneheads. Given that all three were either explicitly killed earlier in the movie (Starscream) or have been turned into Galvatron's troops by this point (Thundercracker and Skywarp), they're obviously not supposed to be ''around'' in these forms anymore; of course, they could also just be [[generic]]s reusing their colors...but, as noted above, Thundercracker and Skywarp ''also'' appear at Starscream's coronation.
*Daniel, who was just learning how to use his exo-suit, had to knock down the acid cover inside Unicron to save his loved ones. Why couldn't the more experienced Spike do the same with his suit from above? He had both of his arms free and a clear shot at the cover.
*It's not clear how Rodimus Prime (carrying two humans) and the other Autobots survived their jump out of Unicron's eye and their plunge towards the surface of Cybertron.
*It's also unclear just how the dozen or so Autobots (and one shipload of Junkions) managed to retake the whole planet of Cybertron. Did Unicron really wipe out ''that'' many Decepticons?
* Unicron's invincibility is extremely inconsistent; Moments before becoming Galvatron, Megatron creates visible damage to Unicron's horns simply by attempting to hold into something. Later, he doesn't suffer even a dent when one of Cybertron's moons is detonated in his mouth. Near the end, the Dinobots are capable of punching their way through his "skin", and Rodimus Prime just casually throws Galvatron into space through Unicron's side. Even without the Matrix, the small group of Autobots did pretty well against him.

===Not necessarily errors===
*Fans have noted throughout the years that Astrotrain, in his flight through zero-gravity space, should not have needed to "jettison some weight" in the literal sense. However, since the ejected Decepticons quickly fall behind Astrotrain instead of floating alongside him, he must still have been accelerating and thus would have needed to burn a greater amount of fuel in order to push a larger payload. Perhaps he should have said "jettison some ''mass''", but then again, just being a spaceship doesn't make him a rocket scientist.
*Springer escapes from Unicron's eye by transforming into helicopter mode and flying through outer space, where there shouldn't be an atmosphere for his rotors to provide lift. Maybe Unicron was still within Cybertron's atmosphere?

==Continuity notes==
*''The Transformers: The Movie'' has had a huge effect in shaping the mythos. Among the elements and characters which would reappear in many other iterations of ''[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]'' are:
**The notion that [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] has moons.
**The [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] as a physical object, rather than the computer program previously depicted in the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|comics]]. Even the Marvel comics would eventually shoehorn this one in.
**[[Autobot City (disambiguation)|Autobot City]].
**[[Unicron]].
**The notion of [[Megatron (disambiguation)|Megatron]] becoming [[Galvatron (disambiguation)|Galvatron]].
**The idea of "[[Prime (rank)|Prime]]" being a rank rather than simply a given name.
**[[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|And it killed off Optimus Prime before it was cool]]!
*Cybertron's appearance in the post-titles establishing shot shows some major changes to the planet since our last look at it in Season 2. Many of the same buildings from the cartoon's stock image of the planet are there, but the giant pit near the planet's equator is mostly covered over, and the shredded portion of its southern hemisphere has been completely rebuilt.
*Gadgets and powers:
**Springer deploys a small flip-out twin laser from his wrist during the Autobot City battle.
**Arcee and Hot Rod both activate a long-distance scanner of some sort by lowering a red visor from under their helmets over their eyes.
**Megatron uses an "[[Lightsaber|Energy Dagger]]"<ref>[https://twitter.com/walruslaw/status/1204860124898181123 Reference sheets for various weapons used or planned for use in ''The Transformers: The Movie''] - TFRaw.com on Twitter</ref> during his one-on-one battle with Optimus Prime.
**Hot Rod uses a saw blade that extends from his retracted wrist.
**Blurr has the same kind of hooked welding tip used by various Autobots as far back as "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 2]]".
**Arcee unleashes a nasty barbed post from her fender to fend off a Junkion.
**Grimlock shows the never-before seen ability to [[GoBots|shoot lasers from his fists]].
*'''[[The Revenge of Bruticus|< <]]''' What makes Starscream the leader? Megatron's <s>dead</s> almost dead!

==Real-world references and Easter eggs==
[[File:TFTMUnicronSkyscrapers.jpg|thumb|I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.]]
*When the inside of Unicron is shown after he devours Lithone, the "blinking energy" effect of Unicron's innards shows, for a split second, what appear to be several images of post-apocalyptic buildings. These images look to be recycled background paintings from ''{{w|Fist of the North Star (1986 film)|Fist of the North Star}}'', a film [[Toei Animation|Toei]] had animated the same year. Regardless of animation efficiency/corner-cutting, the flashing images of ruined civilizations are eerily appropriate for Unicron.
[[File:TFTM Sludge Devastator.jpg|thumb|Your eyes can deceive you. Don't trust them.]]
*When Sludge gets haymakered by Devastator, his eyes pop out of their sockets in ''{{w|Looney Tunes}}'' fashion.
*Kup's storytelling sequence aboard the shuttle is drawn from the novel ''{{w|Of Mice and Men}}'', complete with Grimlock in the Lenny role asking Kup to "tell Grimlock about petrorabbits again".
*The Junkions speak almost entirely in pop culture quotes and pastiches. Littered among the generic phrases like "operators are standing by!", "Film at eleven" and "eliminate even the toughest stains" are more specific references, such as:
**"Don't look behind door #2, Monty!" - a reference to the game show ''[[Let's Make a Deal]]'' and its host, [[Monty]] Hall.
**"Ger-ronny-doo-ron-ron-ronny-mo!" - both the famous "{{w|Geronimo (exclamation)|Geronimo!}}" war cry, and the 1963 hit "{{w|Da Doo Ron Ron}}".
**"You check in, but you don't check out" - a parody of the tagline for {{w|Roach Motel (insect trap)|Roach Motel}} insect traps.
**"Happy motoring!" - the slogan of gas company [[Esso]].
**"Kill the Grand Poobah!" - a {{w|Grand Poobah|satirical term}} originating from {{w|Gilbert and Sullivan}}'s ''{{w|The Mikado}}'', likely referencing its use as the title of leaders of pseudo-Masonic lodges in ''{{w|The Flintstones}}'' and ''{{w|Happy Days}}''.
[[File:Tftm rosencrantz-and-guildenstern.jpg|thumb|Easy? You call that ''easy!?'']]
*The Quintesson jail cell includes robot debris ''strongly'' resembling [[:File:Tftm rosencrantz-and-guildenstern.jpg#parts|several mobile suits]] from 1985 Japanese animation ''{{w|Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam}}''.
*''[[Star Wars (film)|Star Wars]]'' sound effects (yes, even the high-budget Movie uses them):
**The ''[[Millennium Falcon]]'' engine burst noise is used extensively throughout the film, over and over and over, almost any time a Decepticon takes flight.

**[[Luke Skywalker]]'s deactivating [[lightsaber]] is used as the sound of the Quintesson ship's ramp extending.
**Clashing lightsabers are used as Unicron fires eye-blasts at the attacking Transformers.

**An igniting lightsaber is used as Rodimus opens the Matrix.
**An AT-AT foot stomp sound is heard as the Autobot shuttle crash lands on Junk.
**The whir of an AT-AT's leg hydraulics can be heard part way through Unicron's transformation.
*The ''[[Star Trek]]'' sliding door sound is used as Wreck-Gar pulls out his <s>iPhone</s> mini-TV.
*The sound used for the communicators on ''Star Trek'' is used when Daniel activates his blaster to save Spike.

==Adaptations==
*[[Transformers: The Movie (Marvel comic)|A comic adaptation of the movie]] was published by [[Marvel Comics]] in 1986, concurrently with the movie's theater run. It was based off a non-finalized version of the script, and differs in many details from the final film. Additionally, most of the major character models (and possibly their unedited original character write-ups) appear in issue #4 of the ''[[The Transformers Universe|Transformers Universe]]'' series.
*[[Transformers the Movie (Ladybird adaptation)|A storybook adaptation]] was released in the UK by [[Ladybird Books]].
*A four-part adaptation was released in 2006/2007 by [[IDW Publishing]], as part of the film's 20th anniversary celebration. It was titled ''[[Transformers: The Animated Movie]]'' to differentiate it from the [[Michael Bay]] [[Transformers (film)|live-action film]]. Unlike its predecessor, it adheres rigidly to the script and plot of the finished movie.

==Soundtrack==
{{main|The Transformers: The Movie - Original Motion Picture Soundtrack}}

==Promotions==
*Early in the movie's production, a [[The Transformers: The Movie promo|promotional trailer]] was made to sell the project to potential investors.
*The movie was advertised on related 1986 toy packages via the [[Decipher the Decepticon]] Sweepstakes, which included a pack-in poster and contest.
*The movie was heavily advertised directly by TV [[commercial]]s, and tail-end segments on Transformer toy ads. Portions of its story were also retold in altered fashion by animation segments of commercials for the movie character toys, such as a spot showing Springer doing battle with Wreck-Gar.
*[[Ziploc]] sandwich bags featuring an iron-on patch in boxed to advertise the movie. Each box contained one of eight potential characters.

==In the comic continuity==
The [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel UK comic]] made extensive use of the Movie as the basis for a series of stories involving the Transformers in the future. However, there are several differences between the events seen on screen and those referenced in the comic:

*The comic always dates the movie to [[2006]], following the date given in a treatment that was all [[Simon Furman]] had when he wrote "[[Target: 2006]]".
*In "Target: 2006", [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] states that he was previously "[[Life Spark]]".
*The Matrix is always called the "Creation Matrix" in the comic, a name that predates the "Matrix of Leadership" but which is now used for the same physical object.
*[[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] and [[Wheeljack (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Wheeljack]] both survive the events, both later appearing in "[[Space Pirates!]]" (set in [[2008]]).

In addition, [[Shockwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Shockwave]] definitely survives the attack by Unicron.

The US comic almost completely ignored the events of the Movie, though later in the run an alternative future is briefly shown in "[[Rhythms of Darkness!]]" and "[[A Savage Circle]]". In this timeline at least some of the events of the Movie took place such as the creation of [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] from [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]], which is dated to 2005, though [[Prowl (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Prowl]]'s death was overlooked. [[Prowl II|Wouldn't be the first time. Or the last.]]
*The US version of the future story "[[The Big Broadcast of 2006 (issue)|The Big Broadcast of 2006]]" implicitly has the events of the movie as part of its backstory. However, since the rest of the US series ignored the movie, this issue's place in the continuity is questionable.

==Edits==
Several English-language versions of the film exist, with the following differences in content from the American theatrical run:

*In some versions (notably the European version) the opening credits are replaced with a scrolling text ("''Star Wars'' style") which provides backstory.
*In some versions (notably the European version) the film ends with [[Victor Caroli|a narrator]] reassuring the audience that Optimus Prime will return.
*Instances of swearing in the film (there are two) were edited out; sometimes one, sometimes both. Those instances are: Spike yelling, "Oh shit, what are we gonna do now?" after the self-destructing Moon Base 2 fails to scratch Unicron, and Ultra Magnus growling, "Open, damn it, open!" while trying to open the Matrix to fend off Galvatron and the Sweeps on Junkion. The United Kingdom cinema version had the swearing included but, when it was released on VHS in the United Kingdom, Spike's line was cut ("damn" not being considered especially offensive in the UK). However it has been restored on all United Kingdom DVD releases.
*In some early FHE video releases, the shot of the Matrix falling out of Optimus Prime's hand and being caught by Hot Rod is edited so that it appears that Ultra Magnus simply takes the Matrix from Prime. Why this was done is not known, and the replay of the Hot Rod catch on Unicron's monitors was left intact.
*The original FHE video release of the film painted out all instances of Megatron's green-colored "bleeding" from the end of the battle of Autobot City up to his meeting with Unicron.
*Instead of DEG, the {{w|Rank Organisation|Rank Film}} "{{w|Gongman}}" appears before the British release of the film, as Rank were the United Kingdom distributors. Ironically, the DEG logo at the beginning uses the "Gongman" sounds, rather than its own fanfare, possibly due to a plastering mistake.

None of these edits significantly affect the story. They should not be confused with various other sequences which were changed before the film's final release:

*Originally, Ultra Magnus's "death sequence" on Junkion called for him to be lassoed and drawn and quartered by the Sweeps' energy beams, but this was deemed too graphic for audiences, hence the less disturbing "shot to death" sequence seen instead. There is evidence that the original sequence had been fully animated when the decision was made, however; the Sweeps still kept their solid energy lassos when they fire upon Magnus, and Magnus is seen visibly straining against what appears to be said lassos (edited out and replaced with laser fire) before exploding. This also explains why the Junkions only have to put his limbs back on to repair him.
*A number of other sequences were illustrated as [[storyboard]]s but dropped, presumably without ever being animated. Among them were:
**A short scene showing Ironhide piloting the Autobot shuttle through ''huge chunks of ice'' from the tail of a passing comet, explaining how the Decepticons caught them unawares. In response to a reprimand by Prowl who prickishly disapproves of Ironhide's piloting shenanigans, Ironhide exclaims, "I can sure as shootin' dodge a couple of ice chunks". When the Autobots are suddenly jolted by the Decepticon strike force as Megatron and his troops attempt to enter the shuttle, Ironhide tells the others on board, "That was no ice chunk...". Heroic nonsense ensues...
**An extended sequence with Hot Rod and Daniel outside the city.
**A sequence of Mirage blasting Bombshell and being fired on by Megatron.
**The Autobots finally bringing down Devastator with a barrage of missiles (and the Constructicons subsequently shooting Red Alert in the back).
**The Decepticons dogpiling Optimus Prime, explaining why he seems to be standing up just before his fight with Megatron, and no longer holding his rifle. According to storyboards, Prime gets bum-rushed by Blitzwing (who causes Prime to drop his gun), Starscream, Astrotrain, and Skywarp. While it is not clear how Prime defeated the first four hand-to-hand combatants, Dirge is later shown attempting one final sneak attack (and gets his can handed back to him) as Prime is talking to Megatron before the two leaders' final fight.
**Trailbreaker is shown dead among the wreckage of Autobot City as the Decepticons begin their retreat.
:Some of these concepts were in earlier versions of the script, and hence made it into the comic adaptation.
*Rumors have occasionally circulated in the fandom of additional animated footage that was dropped from the film, such as ultra-violent battle scenes. No evidence has ever surfaced to back these claims; the only known edits of any storyline or character importance are those listed in this section.
:{{see|Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers#The Transformers: The Movie|Urban legends about ''The Transformers: The Movie''}}

==Reception and box office==
{{quote|''The Transformers'', in which Orson Welles plays a planet, is pure headache material. Target audience of cartoon-watchers also will probably find the film unintelligible, noisy and unoriginal. Boxoffice prospects are dismal.|2=[http://books.google.com/books?id=DHNZAAAAMAAJ&q=Hasbro+Transformers&dq=Hasbro+Transformers&lr=&as_drrb_is=b&as_minm_is=1&as_miny_is=1983&as_maxm_is=12&as_maxy_is=2005&num=50&as_brr=0&cd=69 Variety's Film Reviews 1985-1986, Volume 19]}}

{{quote|Obnoxious animated feature about the title good guys, who defend the universe against an evil planet (which has a voice of its own... provided by Orson Welles.) That deafening rock score certainly doesn't help. Little more than a feature-length toy commercial.|Leonard Maltin, ''1987 Movie & Video Guide''}}

{{quote|While all this action may captivate young children, the animation is not spectacular enough to dazzle adults, and the Transformers have few truly human elements to lure parents along, even when their voices are supplied by well-known actors. |2=[http://www.nytimes.com/1986/08/09/movies/screen-transformers-animation-for-children.html The New York Times]}}

{{quote|Transformers -- The Movie, a feature-length animated film inspired by the syndicated TV cartoon series inspired by the Hasbro toy imported from Japan, is utterly uninspired entertainment. |2=[http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=DM&p_theme=dm&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0ED3CE8EA8D40CCA&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM The Dallas Morning News]}}

{{quote|If you can swallow, without gagging, a large measure of sentimental and offensive religiosity - lines like "Do not grieve. Soon I will be one with the Matrix," whispered by a failing hunk of Autobot metal - then you have a better than even chance of leaving the theatre on your own two feet. |2=[http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=01kiAAAAIBAJ&sjid=W6gFAAAAIBAJ&pg=2445,1286000&dq=transformers&hl=en The Montreal Gazette]}}

{{quote|Everything is poorly drawn and - when it's in focus - one dimensional. It is terribly hard to separate the robots from the backgrounds, and there is no easy way to tell the good guys from the bad guys. In an earlier movie based on the same sort of robot toys - "Go-Bots: The Battle of the Rock Lords" - the good guys were either white or colorful and the bad guys were dreary, and they had distinct personalities. Not this movie; everyone looks and sounds alike, except one pink robot who is a female good guy. Her tin voluptuousness makes her stand out. |2=[http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=kw4wAAAAIBAJ&sjid=OgMEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6957,6334152&dq=transformers&hl=en The Toledo Blade]}}

{{quote|Even with an all-star cast doing the voice overs... and a rock music score, this is still nothing more than a ripoff of a successful toy line. |2=[http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=AYckAAAAIBAJ&sjid=dtsFAAAAIBAJ&pg=4192,1494652&dq=transformers&hl=en The Palm Beach Post]}}

{{quote|The great animated villains, like the Wicked Queen in Disney's "Snow White," had motivations as compelling as any live-action character. Unicron apparently destroys entire worlds because it has nothing else to do. |2=[http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/57996397.html?dids=57996397:57996397&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=Aug+8%2C+1986&author=CHARLES+SOLOMON&pub=Los+Angeles+Times+(pre-1997+Fulltext)&edition=&startpage=8&desc=%60THE+TRANSFORMERS%27%3A+STRETCHING+A+POINT The LA Times]}}

{{quote|A surprisingly dark, emotional, and almost excessively cynical experience for Transformers fans.|2=[http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_the_the_movie/ Rotten Tomatoes]}}

''The Transformers: The Movie'' was almost universally panned by professional critics upon its release.

Well-known film critic and animation enthusiast, Leonard Maltin, gave it a rating below 1 1/2 stars in his ''1987 Movie & Video Guide'', regarding it as a "bomb", then proceeded to write an unflattering blurb denouncing the film as a "feature-length toy commercial".

Caryn James of the ''New York Times'' admitted in the [[August 9]], 1986, edition of the paper that the film was intended for young children, pointing out that the kids in the audience were having a grand ole time with the ''Transformer'' toys and comics they brought with them to the theater, but derided the film as having little to no appeal to adults.

''Variety's Film Reviews 1985-1986, Volume 19 '' was far less even-handed in their review, claiming the film had no appeal to adults ''or'' children. They predicted the film would perform poorly in the box office (and were correct, in that regard).

Carrie Rickey of the ''Dallas Morning News'' chided the film in the [[August 13]], 1986, issue of the paper, describing it as "essentially a cartoon ''Star Wars'' about robots from a toybox galaxy far, far away". She then went on to say that the film "never takes off" and derided it as "uninspired".

Janice Kennedy of the ''Montreal Gazette'' verbally disemboweled the film in the [[August 23]], 1986, edition of the paper, criticizing it as overly commercial, profane, loud, violent, humorless, heavy-handed in its religious messages and chaulk-full of gratuitous celebrity voice-overs. Her only compliment: "But ''The Transformers: The Movie'' does have at least one good thing going for it, a howlingly appropriate song by [["Weird Al" Yankovic]]. It's title? ''Dare to be Stupid''." ''Ouch''.

Nanciann Cherry in the August 13, 1986, edition of the ''Toledo Blade'' claimed the robots in the movie had little personality and faded into the background. She even went on to say that ''[[GoBots]]: {{gb|GoBots: Battle of the Rock Lords|Battle of the Rock Lords}}'' was a superior film! Her review was filled with inaccuracies, however, citing characters such as "Unicon" and claiming that the destruction of Cybertron's moons by "Unicon" is what caused the Autobots to travel to Autobot City, at which point Megatron attacked. To be fair, she readily admits, "About 20 minutes into the film, I gave up on the plot and tried to count all the ideas that were stolen from other sources. Now that kept me busy." So she wasn't really paying attention, anyway.

Kathryn Buxton in the [[August 22]], 1986, edition of the ''Palm Beach Post'' gave the film a whopping ''one'' star, calling it "a ripoff of a successful toyline", whatever ''that'' means. In the same article, she also gave David Cronenberg's ''[[Fly|The Fly]]'' one star, just for reference.

In the August 8, 1986, edition of the ''LA Times'', critic Charles Solomon made clear his dislike for the film centered primarily on the fact that none of the characters had interesting or believable motivation. He stated, "Not even the best actor can create a character out of nothing. Not one of the robots has a reason for doing what he does." Solomon then pointed to Unicron specifically as an example of the lack of deep, multi-dimensional motivations in the characters.

Over time, however, the movie has acquired something of a cult following beyond the core base of [[fandom|Transformers fans]], particularly among children of the '80s. It is sometimes screened as a midnight movie at colleges. Online, it is not hard to find amateur reviews lauding everything about it as utterly awesome, from the premise to the soundtrack, and dismissing more critical views out of hand. ''The Transformers: The Movie'' currently holds a 60% "fresh" rating based on 25 professional reviews at online review aggregator Rotten Tomatoes.<ref>http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_the_the_movie/</ref> In response to the film's cult following, several reviewers have compared the film in a favourable light to the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]]s (prior to the unprecedented critical success of [[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]), stating that they lack the heart or nostalgia of the '86 movie.<ref>https://www.inverse.com/article/7309-6-enduring-legacies-of-1986-s-animated-the-transformers-the-movie</ref><ref>https://slate.com/culture/2007/07/transformers-why-the-original-animated-movie-is-still-the-best.html</ref><ref>https://www.cinemablend.com/new/Sorry-Michael-Bay-Why-1986-Transformers-Movie-Best-43582.html</ref>

===Box office===
An [[August 30]]th, 1987 ''Los Angeles Times'' article on the decline and fall of the DeLaurentiis Entertainment Group listed ''The Transformers: The Movie'' as grossing $2.6 million in the United States on a $5 million budget.<ref>https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-08-30-fi-5144-story.html</ref> Both it and ''My Little Pony: The Movie'' (which earned $2.8 million on a $5.5 million budget per that same article) were financial failures, together losing Hasbro about $10 million in an otherwise profitable year.<ref>[https://twitter.com/tfwiki/status/895169922678042625 Sherilyn Connelly in ''Ponyville Confidential'' citing a May 21st, 1987 ''Providence Journal'' article by Neil Downing, "Hasbro Sees Record Sales and Profits".]</ref>

Confusingly, in comparison to the ''Los Angeles Times'' article, modern box office tracking sites<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=transformers.htm</ref><ref>http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/1986/0TRTM.php</ref> list ''The Transformers: The Movie'' as having made $5,849,647 in domestic (e.g., United States) theaters. Comparing this with the other online box office takes from animated films of 1986, the results are not particularly charitable; while it did better financially than ''{{gb|GoBots: Battle of the Rock Lords}}''<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=gobots.htm</ref> ($1,338,264) and ''Heathcliff: The Movie''<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=heathcliff.htm</ref> ($2,610,686), it performed worse than the 1986 ''[[My Little Pony]]'' movie<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=mylittlepony.htm</ref> ($5,958,456) and the '''second''' ''Care Bears'' movie<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=carebearsmovie2.htm</ref> ($8,540,346). Bringing up ''The Great Mouse Detective''<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=greatmousedetective.htm</ref> ($25,336,794) and ''An American Tail''<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=americantail.htm</ref> ($47,483,002) would really just be overkill.

==Significance in Transfandom==
''The Transformers: The Movie'' remains one of the most important elements of the entire Transformers brand, both within the fiction and from the perspective of the brand's popularity and "mindshare".

Fictionally, it established several story concepts that have been used repeatedly in the years since 1986, some of which—such as Unicron and the Matrix—are now central to the entire Transformers mythos. The movie is also the centerpiece of the most well-known Transformers continuity: the Generation 1 animated universe. The ''Transformers'' cartoon is split into "pre-movie" and "post-movie" sections which feature different characters and settings, and even somewhat different visual styles. (Most pre-movie episodes were animated by the studio [[Toei Animation|Toei]], while most post-movie episodes were animated by [[AKOM]].)

On a practical note, it was widely available on videotape, and remained so long after the ''The Transformers'' cartoon had gone off the air. Only a [[Family Home Entertainment|handful of series episodes]] were available on video, making ''The Transformers: The Movie'' the logical choice for someone looking to pick up a ''Transformers'' cartoon; this made it far more well known among fans than any particular cartoon episode.

To an entire generation of young fans, the movie was the most visually spectacular and narratively epic ''Transformers'' experience of their entire youth. Events such as the death of Optimus Prime are widely reported to have reduced many kids to tears. It is hardly a surprise that these emotional experiences embedded themselves deeply in many fans' memories.

Latter-day ''Transformers'' stories have made uncountable references (though [[The Transformers: The Movie/references|we're trying]]) to the movie, lifting or borrowing elements of its [[Minus One|dialogue]], [[The Transformers: Autocracy|fight sequences]], [[A Flash Forward|subplots]], [[Heavy Is the Head|details]], [[Less Than Zero|settings]] and more, as writers have discovered that a shout-out to the movie is a quick and easy way to win cheers from [[GEEWUN|some segments]] of [[Fandom|their audience]]. Even Hasbro and Takara themselves have gotten in on the act, producing a variety of toys based on the minutia of the film: [[Starscream (Armada)#Cybertron|Starscream's crown]], [[Galvatron (G1)/toys#United|Galvatron's creation]], the awakening of [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Rodimus Prime]], and more. The fandom, for their part, pores over new ''Transformers'' fiction, often latching on to even the most tangential of details as a [[The Search for Alpha Trion#Quotes|"reference"]] to the movie, [[The Burden Hardest to Bear|coincidental or not]]. Call-outs, real or perceived, were once a rare treat - but now are so common that many fans are more likely to groan than cheer whenever some version of Optimus Prime declares that "[[One Shall Fall|One shall stand...]]" or a damaged character states that "[[Unfinished|I still function]]" or a vengeful blast is preceded by "[[The Illusion of Control|Here's a hint]]" or yet another Soundwave says yet another variation of "[[Human Error, Part II|Soundwave superior]]", or... well... this:

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File:Transformersanimatedfilmposter.jpg|'86
File:TFTM1.jpg|'86 again
File:Botcon2000-movieposter.jpg|2000
File:TFvol1 31cvrRI.jpg|2010
File:Timelines10 diamonded.jpg|2014
File:Echoes and Fragments cover.jpg|2016
File:LL1 Riptcvr.jpg|2018
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In 2016, thirty years after the release of the film, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Optimus Prime]] gave us perhaps one of the most meta comeback lines in franchise history. When [[Galvatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Galvatron]] declares that "Today — one shall stand, and two shall fall!", Optimus simply punches him in the face with a flat "No cliches, Galvatron", voicing once and for all just how sick we've gotten of '86 quotes. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 6: No Fair Fights|No Fair Fights}}

{{quote|...wait, I only just noticed something. Did they actually manage to go the entire episode without quoting the 86 movie?|[http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/94625-episode-65-beast-hunters-episode-13/page-4#entry2360303 Allspark poster Unit Eleven]}}

==Criticisms==
[[File:TFTM Ratchet dies.jpg|left|thumb|Only [[Stormtrooper (SW)|Imperial Stormtroopers]] are so precise.]]
All this is not all to say that the movie is a "masterpiece", exactly. The film met with extremely harsh critical reviews on its release, and some of those criticisms still ring true today.

The film displays an arguably cynical attitude towards itself as [[To sell toys|a vehicle for advertising toys]], especially in the way [[The Transformers (cartoon)/cast|beloved characters]] are killed—sometimes gratuitously—for sake of justifying the story's focus on a new group of toys. (Note that with the exception of Laserbeak and possibly Buzzsaw, the poster at the top of this article features ''only'' new characters.)

Further, the two primary plot devices—[[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]] and the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]]—have no prior establishment in the fiction. Unicron is given no backstory ([[Call of the Primitives|until season 3]]) or justification; he simply exists, is very dangerous, and is afraid of the Matrix, all for no adequately explained reason. The introduction of the Matrix itself is a heavy [[retcon]]. The story asks the audience to accept that this cosmically powerful artifact has been in Optimus Prime's possession all along (even though Prime's open-chested repair scene in "[[Divide and Conquer]]" and his X-ray scene in "[[A Prime Problem]]" show absolutely no signs of said Matrix), but has somehow never been relevant before. In fact, this lack of prior establishment is what led [[Simon Furman]] to develop the divinity backstory of Unicron and [[Primus]] in the UK comics run.

[[File:Megatronlightsaber.jpg|thumb|Your powers are weak, old man!]]
The movie bears many similarities to ''[[Star Wars (film)|Star Wars]]'': There are several character-parallels ([[Springer (G1)|Springer]] is a [[Han Solo]]-type and [[Arcee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Arcee]] even has Princess Leia's hairdo!), the primary threat is similar (it's the [[Death Star]]... [[Unicron/Generation 1|but it transforms!]]), and both feature a climactic battle where the [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|young hero]] hears the voice of his [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|dead, wise mentor]] one last time before saving the day.

To be a bit more fair to ''The Transformers: The Movie'', however, most of these similarities are either superficial (Arcee's Leia-hair; Megatron's "lightsaber" he briefly uses in his duel against Optimus Prime) or can be seen as elements common to thousands of years' worth of epic storytelling through human history, not just common to ''Star Wars''. As a simple example, the phenomenon of two charismatic leaders dealing each other mortal injuries in battle hearkens back to some versions of the "[[King Arthur]]" myth; in their final battle, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Arthur]] and his arch-enemy [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Sir Mordred]] deal one another lethal injuries and both apparently expire—though Arthur according to the legend will [[The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1|return]] when [[Cybertron (planet)|England]]'s need [[Darkest hour|is greatest]].
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==Formatting==
[[File:Tftm widescreenesque.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|The "widescreen" picture (left) actually ''cuts off'' the top and bottom of the fullscreen picture (right). Your eyes can deceive you; don't trust them.]]
Although it was billed in some advertisements before its theatrical release as being "widescreen", the movie was in fact animated in a 4:3 (fullscreen) aspect ratio. For its theatrical screenings, the film was matted down in the projector by the projectionist to a 16:9 aspect ratio (widescreen), chopping the top and bottom off the picture, but all video transfers of the movie were done without mattes, meaning that there was actually more picture visible in the fullscreen video and DVD releases than there would have been in theaters. Across 2006 and 2007, new editions of the DVD of the film were released by Sony BMG and [[Metrodome]] which applied the mattes in order to replicate the original theatrical presentation of the film for the first time in home entertainment. Some fans, however, didn't realize that the film wasn't actually ''animated'' in widescreen, and, hearing that the DVD was to be in widescreen, expected to see the fullscreen image with additional footage at the sides, causing them to complain that the top and bottom were cut off, thereby totally missing the point.
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==International versions==
{{main|The Transformers: The Movie/dubs}}

==Commercial releases==
[[File:TFTM LaserDisc cover.jpg|thumb|The cover image from the original Japanese home media release of the movie.]]
*The movie was originally released in North America on VHS and Beta on [[September 17]]th, 1987<ref>http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1964&dat=19870911&id=YhAuAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Ls8FAAAAIBAJ&pg=3198,2881581</ref> by [[Family Home Entertainment]], minus Spike's swear. Not long after, it was released in the UK by [[Video Gems]]. This version featured the opening text crawl and closing narration inherent to the UK version of the film. In Australia, the film was released on video by RCA/Columbia Pictures/Hoyts. In Japan, Hillcrane released a {{w|LaserDisc}} version alongside a VHS copy, both sporting a gorgeous painted cover that decorated many a fan's desktop back in the day.
*The movie was released spottily in the '90s, beginning with a budget VHS by Avid Home Entertainment in 1991. [[Malofilm]] released a VHS in Canada in 1995, notable for being the first home entertainment version to include Spike's swear. In 1998, Japanese company Pioneer produced another pair of LaserDisc and VHS releases. In 1999, things kicked off when American company [[Rhino Entertainment|Kid Rhino]] secured the Transformers license and released the film on VHS once again.
*The 21st century's flirtation with ''The Transformers: The Movie'' started with a UK budget VHS release of that country's version by [[Sony|Sony Wonder]], distributed by [[Maverick Entertainment]]. A Japanese company called CatCo followed this up with a VideoCD, and Malofilm—now Seville—were the first to release a DVD version of the film, though it was just a dump of their VHS version.
*In November 2000, ''The Transformers: The Movie'' got its first, full professional DVD release from Kid Rhino. This edition, labelled a "Special Collector's Edition", is the first to feature remastered video and audio, and several special features, including storyboards and an interview with [[Vince DiCola]]. Rhino concurrently released this version on VHS, sans extras.
*In 2001 in the UK, Sony Wonder released their own much-delayed DVD version of the film. It was the UK version of the film, but included Spike's swear. However, the release was burdened by badly interlaced video, though it notably included the [[Omni Productions]] dub version of the ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)|Headmasters]]'' episode "[[Four Warriors Come out of the Sky]]" as an extra. This version (including the ''Headmasters'' episode) was simultaneously released on VHS.
*The movie was released on DVD in Australia in 2003 by [[Madman Entertainment]], using the same video as the Maverick version, but distinguished by some nifty new cover art by [[Don Figueroa]], and special features not seen on other editions, such as ''[[Stan Bush|The Touch]]'' music video and 80s TV spots.
[[File:Tftm uk covers.jpg|thumb|The UK poster art (left) has been the most common DVD and VHS cover in its home country, but the Ultimate Edition featured new art by Andy Wildman (right).]]
*After acquiring the license to release ''Transformers'' DVDs in the UK, [[Metrodome]] focused on completing their run of series box sets before turning their attention to the movie properly, releasing only a cheap budget DVD of the UK version through Prism Leisure with no extras, and a UMD of the same version.
*In 2005, Metrodome released ''Transformers: The Movie - Reconstructed'', a new version of the film designed to expose as much of the animated picture as possible. This, however, only resulted in exposing the rough, unfinished edges of the animation, and an overly pale remaster was compounded by excessive interlacing due to an unnecessary NTSC to PAL transfer. This, coupled with a 5.1 remix from [[Magno Sound & Video]], featuring the same extra sound effects that they added to Rhino's season box sets, made this release both controversial and disappointing to many. This was the first time that the US version of the movie was released in the UK, and the first to feature the US poster art as a cover (although a Silverscreen store exclusive version of the disc included a reversible cover with the UK poster art as well). Extras include trailers, TV spots, the character biographies from the Madman release, a looped version of the Lion ''Transformers'' theme on the main menu, and a subtitled version of "[[Four Warriors Come out of the Sky]]".
[[File:Tftm sony covers.jpg|thumb|Sony's covers, by Don Figueroa.]]
*For the movie's 20th anniversary in 2006, new license holder [[Sony|Sony BMG]] released a two-disc special edition of the film, featuring both a high-quality widescreen remaster and the original fullscreen version, audio commentaries from crew and fans, several new featurettes interviewing those involved in the movie's production, storyboards, TV spots, American and Japanese commercials and more. Most notably, this version included the first Western release of "[[Scramble City: Mobilization]]", albeit silent and unsubtitled, featuring only audio commentary. Also very notable is that this version includes an actual deleted scene from the animated film as an extra, though it is more of interest as a curiosity than anything it actually contains, being an approximately 2-second-long aerial view of the Autobots running towards the critically damaged Optimus Prime. This release featured two covers by Don Figueroa: one is of the '84-'85 cast that appear in the movie, and one is of the movie's new characters, available either as a lenticular hologram that switches between the two, or as a reversible sleeve with the images printed on either side.
[[File:Tftm madman covers.jpg|thumb|Madman's 2003 DVD cover (left), and their 2007 Special Edition cover (right).]]
*Delayed a bit to coincide with the hype for the 2007 [[Transformers (film)|live-action movie]], Metrodome also released a two-disc "Ultimate Edition" with a different widescreen master. Like "Reconstructed", this version used the US edition of the film, but this time, the UK version was also included, in fullscreen, on the second disc. Extras include TV spots, commercials, the Madman biographies, storyboards, commentary, "Scramble City" (with audio and subtitles), featurettes with [[Flint Dille]] and [[Peter Cullen]], and more. The double-disc edition was sold in a steel case featuring new art by [[Andrew Wildman]], with the UK poster art adorning the standard case inside. Various store exclusives were available, including postcards from Play.Com, a reversible cover with the US poster art from HMV, art cards from Virgin Megastore and [[posters]] from Woolworths and [[Toys"R"Us]]. It was also available in an extra-less single-disc version. This version was premiered at the Mid Ulster Film Festival in Ireland which was the only cinema showing of the remastered version of the film to date.
[[File:ShoutFactory TFTM BluDVD.jpg|thumb|Shout! Factory's 2016 Blu-ray cover.]]
*The film was released in Full HD 1080p on Blu-ray in the UK in October 2007. The Blu-ray is not region-locked, so it will play anywhere in the world. It features a 2.0 soundtrack, 5.1 Dolby Digital track, and a full bitrate DTS 5.1 track. The master used was the same used by Sony for their US DVD. Sadly, there are no extras on the DVD. The version of the film on the Blu-ray is the US one, complete with curse words.
*Madman produced their two-disc special edition through some collaboration with Metrodome, and consequently it features much of the same content, with additional extras taking the form of The Touch music video and a bonus episode of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]''. This release again features cover artwork by Don Figueroa, specifically the cover of [[IDW Publishing|IDW]]'s ''[[Transformers: The Animated Movie]]'' adaptation.
*For the film's 30th Anniversary, and after being out of print in the US for 10 years, the film was rereleased on Region 1 DVD and given its first Region A Blu-ray release on [[September 13]], [[2016]] by [[Shout! Factory]]. Both versions are sourced from a brand-new 4K transfer which underwent extensive color-correction and remastering, and a Steelbook packaging variant of the Blu-ray was also made available.<ref>[https://www.shoutfactory.com/film/action-adventure/the-transformers-the-movie-limited-edition-30th-anniversary-steelbook The Transformers: The Movie Limited Edition 30th Anniversary Steelbook]</ref> The Steelbook Blu-ray was released in the UK by [[Manga Entertainment]] as a limited edition on December 12, 2016, followed by a standard edition release a year later.
*On September 27, 2018, Fathom Events screened the movie at select theaters in the United States. The movie was preceded by an interview with [[Travis Knight]] and [[Hailee Steinfeld]] and a preview of a scene from ''[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]'', and followed by a short featurette of Stan Bush discussing the music he contributed to the movie and performing acoustic versions of ''The Touch'' and ''Dare''.<ref>[http://news.tfw2005.com/2018/08/01/1986-transformers-movie-hitting-theaters-one-night-only-369314 1986 Transformers Movie Hitting Theaters One Night Only!]</ref> Cineplex would later show the movie in Canadian theaters on October 4.
*For ''The Transformers: The Movie''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s 35th anniversary, a Zavvi-exclusive Blu-ray cover with an optional steelbook was released on October 25, 2021 in the [[United Kingdom]], illustrated in the highly distinctive art style of [[Matt Ferguson]]. Themed clothing and variant prints also designed by Ferguson were simultaneously released as merchandise. Due to being exclusive to UK retailer Zavvi, the Blu-ray set could potentially be difficult for American collectors to track down.
*For the 35th anniversary in the U.S., Shout! Factory released an even-more-updated version of the steelbook Blu-ray on [[August 3]], 2021. This version boasted a new 4k transfer from the original film elements, as well as a feature-length storyboarding treatment.
*Fathom Events once again returned the film to select theaters on [[September 26]] - [[September 27|27]], 2021.

==Television broadcasts==
Following a segmented, five-part broadcast during [[The Transformers (cartoon)#Season 5|the fifth season of ''The Transformers'']], the complete feature film was aired on American television in 1989 via Fox stations. Air dates and times were June 17 at Noon, July 30 at 11 A.M. and September 2 at 10 A.M. Of course, this was the language-edited video release from Family Home Entertainment.

The movie was aired on [[Hub Network|The Hub]] on February 18, 2012, following [[Orion Pax, Part 1|the Season 2 premiere]] of ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' on what was called "Transformers Mega Saturday". Uniquely, this version combined the European opening narration with the US scrawl-free opening credits, muted the two swear words (rendering the lines as "It isn't even dented! ...What do we do now?!" and "Open... ''Open!''"), used the European closing narration at the end, and sped up the scroll of the end credits to cut it down for time, ending the lyrics of the [[theme song]] around the beginning of its second verse ("Strong enough to break the bravest heart..."). Subsequent re-airings on The Hub aired this version of the movie.

The American television airing of the feature film adds one extra sound effect, and it has never been heard in any other release. During the scene when Arcee is racing to jump aboard the departing Autobot shuttle, there is a distinctive sound effect when she jumps. In all other releases there is no sound effect.

A July 4, 2014 Hub broadcast of the movie markets it as ''Transformers: The Animated Movie'', distinguishing it from that computer animation/live action [[Transformers (film)|hybrid film]] with the similar title made two decades and one year later.

==Notes==
*According to [[Buzz Dixon]], Hasbro's decision to kill off Optimus Prime was actually an attempt to maintain some brand-storytelling parity with ''[[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]'', as Dixon had just convinced them to allow the death of [[Duke (G.I. Joe)|Duke]] in ''{{w|G.I. Joe: The Movie}}'' and both films were in production at the same time.<ref>http://www.joeheadquarters.com/interviews_dixon.shtml</ref>

*This film was the last professional performance by [[Orson Welles]], who died only a month later. According to production materials shown at [[BotCon 2000]] by Tim Finn, the voice recording sessions for ''The Transformers: The Movie'' were done on [[September 10]] and [[September 11|11]] of 1985. Welles died on [[October 10]] of that same year. It has often been speculated that Unicron's last line ("Destiny… you cannot destroy my destiny!") was recorded by another actor—possibly [[Leonard Nimoy|Nimoy]]—because it sounds different than the other lines. This speculation has been quashed by statements by Transformers voice director [[Wally Burr]].<ref>http://cybertronchronicle.freewebspace.com/60-astrominutes/wally-burr/wally-burr-3.html</ref>
[[File:Windcharger wheeljack otp.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Uncle Owen! Aunt Beru!!]]

*With the exception of Starscream and possibly Shockwave, only the Autobots suffered fatalities in the movie. All of the other "dead" Decepticons from the Autobot City battle were rebuilt into Galvatron's new troops, and although more Decepticons were shown taking heavy damage and suffering huge casualties while fighting Unicron, their identities and their final condition are uncertain. Additionally, both Starscream and Unicron survived in the post-movie series in some form or another. Shockwave's death in the finished film is highly uncertain, although in the script it is fairly strongly implied. He does make some miscolored appearances in crowd shots in later cartoon episodes, but these are probably examples of the fairly common animation errors in those episodes.

*Somewhat ironically, though only three of the original eighteen Autobots - [[Jazz (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Jazz]], [[Cliffjumper (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Cliffjumper]], and [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] - are definitively shown to have survived the movie, two would quite literally never be heard from again: [[Scatman Crothers]] passed away (though this didn't stop Jazz from making any number of background cameos) while Casey Kasem [[Casey Kasem#Notes|quit the show early in the third season]]. Fate's finger is fickle indeed.

*The Dinobots spend the majority of the film in their dinosaur modes, a practice that would eventually carry into season 3 of the cartoon. Swoop is the only one to spend extended amounts of time in robot mode, due to the anatomical issues of walking in a flight-based mode. However, there are some instances where they're briefly shown in robot mode for blink-and-you-miss-it moments, for no reason whatsoever.

*Unicron's roars in the movie were stock vocalizations originally created for Marvel Productions' 1982 ''The Incredible Hulk'' animated series and performed by voice actor Bob Holt, who voiced the [[Hulk]] in that show. Holt otherwise never voiced a character in the Marvel/Sunbow Transformers series (although he was a regular member of the ''{{gb|Challenge of the GoBots (cartoon)|Challenge of the GoBots}}'' cast as the original voice of [[Cop-Tur (GoBots)|Cop-Tur]]), and had passed away the year before ''The Transformers: The Movie'' was released in 1986. Thus, Unicron has the distinction of featuring ''two'' posthumous performances for the same Transformers character in a single production.

*[[:File:TFTM-MaybeBeachcomber.jpg|A robot resembling Beachcomber]] appears alongside Spike and the Autobots inside Unicron seconds before Daniel blasts the acid cover. Whether this was actually meant to be Beachcomber or just coincidental coloring is unknown, but regardless, Beachcomber shows up alive and well in "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5]]".

*Pieces of music from the movie would later be used in the Commodore 64 version of ''Turrican''. For instance, basically unaltered bits of "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWFx-Go6Y6A Escape]" make up [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6jjpwpDVNY Subsong Two of the game's title theme].

*In the years that have passed, production material has since surfaced that revealed some—if not all—the original 1984 and 1985 characters receiving color changes to their [[character model]]s for the movie, as shown by color layout charts. These so far include: [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]. Though these color charts exist, the final film did not utilize these changes to the character models, instead keeping with the original colors. A user on Allspark.com that goes by the username "DM" has worked hard to accurately recreate the original cartoon models with the correct colors based on color charts and original cartoon and film production material, and has likewise recreated these unused color concepts. Unfortunately, due to Allspark.com's server crash and overhaul in [[2021]], this thread no longer exists, aside from a few web archive captures that were made several months before the server crash. Luckily, friends of DM have worked hard to make sure his work is still widely documented on [https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/d-m-s-most-accurately-coloured-g1-animation-models-online.1201950/ TFW2005.]

* In {{w|The Goldbergs (2013 TV series)|The Golbergs}} episode "The Darryl Dawkins Dance," set during the 1980s, Adam watches ''The Transformers: The Movie'' believing all his heroes from the TV series will survive, only to discover the devastating truth. He is especially hurt by the death of Optimus Prime, and recreates his own version of the movie at home with his grandfather dressed in a highly detailed homemade costume.
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==External links==
*[http://cybertronchronicle.freewebspace.com/cartoon-dossier/movie/movie.html ''The Transformers: The Movie'' Dossier at The Cybertron Chronicle]
*[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3212281345/weekend/ ''The Transformers: The Movie'''s box office domestic gross.]
*[http://web.archive.org/web/20080426020409/http://www.tftm.net/ ''The Transformers: The Movie'' "Unofficial Fansite", an extremely thorough site about the movie]
*[https://sunbowmarvelarchive.blogspot.com/p/mp-4034-transformers-movie-sunbow.html Draft scripts and storyboards on Sunbow and Marvel Archive]
*[http://zobovor.tripod.com/transformers_the_movie_bloopers.html The Transformers: The Movie Bloopers]

==References==
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The Transformers: The Movie

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Anythingspossibleforapossible: It's a pretty big deal

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|continuity=[[Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]
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{{quote|Conceived in the epic tradition of ''[[Star Wars (film)|Star Wars]]''...|[[Victor Caroli]] ain't just whistling Dixie|[[The Transformers: The Movie promo|''The Transformers: The Movie'' promo]]}}

'''''The Transformers: The Movie''''' is an animated feature film based on the original ''Transformers'' toyline. It was released in the United States on Friday, August 8, 1986.

The film's storyline follows the same continuity as the ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Transformers]]'' cartoon. It introduces a [[Scale|planet-sized Transformer]] called [[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]] who eats other planets, and is approaching [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. As part of their continuing wars, the [[Autobot]]s and [[Decepticon]]s have a [[Battle of Autobot City|fierce battle]] on [[Earth]] which sees both [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] mortally wounded. Prime passes the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] and dies, and Megatron is transformed by Unicron into [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]]. [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] (briefly) assumes leadership of the Decepticons, but is killed when Galvatron arrives at Cybertron. Galvatron then chases the surviving Autobots on Earth across space, splitting them up and taking the Matrix. The Autobots find their way back to each other, and follow Galvatron to Cybertron just as Unicron transforms into [[robot mode]] and begins to eat their world. Travelling inside Unicron, [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] recovers the Matrix, transforms into Rodimus Prime, and uses the Matrix to destroy Unicron.

Often referred to by fans simply as "the movie" or "TFTM", the movie was a step up in almost every area from the television series, with a more sophisticated plot, more serious treatment of war and violence, a hugely ambitious scope and a greatly increased animation budget with well-known celebrities providing voice work. For these reasons, the film remains very popular with children of the 1980s.

The film opens with characters who had been featured in the first two years of the toyline and associated media (cartoons, comic books, etc.), but quickly introduces new characters and kills many of the old ones to make room. Of particular note, Optimus Prime and Starscream are both destroyed during the course of the film.

{{quote|The Japanese have funded a full-length animated cartoon about the doings of these toys, which is all bad outer-space stuff. I play a planet. I menace somebody called Something-or-other. Then I'm destroyed. My plan to destroy Whoever-it-is is thwarted and I tear myself apart on the screen.|Orson Welles<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=KlqsYy512WIC&source=gbs_navlinks_s "Orson Welles: A Biography"] page 522</ref>}}

==Synopsis==
[[File:TFTM Unicron Lithone.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|That's no moon.]]
[[Unicron/Generation 1|A mechanical planet]] travels through the depths of space, attacking [[Lithone (planet)|a metal planet]] which has [[Lithone (species)|robotic inhabitants]]. Robots, vehicles, buildings, and even large chunks of rock are sucked off the surface and devoured by the monstrous planet.

It is the year [[2005]], and the [[Decepticon]]s are now in control of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. The [[Autobot]]s are preparing to launch an assault to retake the planet from hidden bases on two of Cybertron's moons. The Autobots launch a [[Autobot shuttle|shuttle]] to pick up a final shipment of [[energon]] from [[Earth]] before they strike.

[[File:Tftm1986a.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Commander, tear this ship apart until you've found those plans. And bring me the passengers; I want them alive!]]
Plans for the attack are overheard by [[Laserbeak (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Laserbeak]], who reports back to [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]]. The Decepticons attack the Autobot shuttle en route to Earth, wiping out its crew (including [[Ironhide (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ironhide]], [[Prowl (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Prowl]], [[Ratchet (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ratchet]] and [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]]). Using the Autobots' own shuttle, the Decepticons are able to get very close to the Autobots' base on Earth, [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]], before they are detected, and begin a devastating surprise attack on the unprepared city.

During the [[Battle of Autobot City|battle at Autobot City]], both [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] and Megatron suffer mortal injuries, and a number of others are also killed. Eventually the Decepticons retreat, but the damage suffered by the Autobots is severe.

[[File:Tftm1986b.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.]]
Shortly after the battle, Prime lies on his deathbed. He passes the reins of leadership to [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] and gives him the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. (Though [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] actually touches the Matrix before Magnus does.) Prime relates a prophecy: "One day, an Autobot shall rise from our ranks, and use the power of the Matrix to light our [[darkest hour]]." He then gives the oath, "[['Til all are one]]", and [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|dies]]. This sequence of events is observed remotely by Unicron, the monstrous planet, who appears unusually concerned by the survival of the Matrix.

The Decepticons are making their escape aboard [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], but are too heavy for him to get them all home under his own power. After putting the matter to a fair vote, the Decepticons decide to throw their injured members off the ship to better the chance of survival for the rest, including the mortally wounded Megatron. Too injured to save himself, [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] tosses Megatron out into space and claims leadership of the Decepticon army.

[[File:TFTM Starscream chucks Megatron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Into the garbage chute, flyboy.]]
Megatron and the other adrift Decepticons then encounter Unicron in interstellar space. Unicron offers to rebuild Megatron and his minions in exchange for their service. After some coercion on the planetoid's part, Megatron agrees, and is [[Reformatting|reformatted]] into [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]]. The other Decepticons are turned into [[Cyclonus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Cyclonus]], [[Scourge (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Scourge]], and the [[Sweep (G1)|Sweeps]]. Unicron provides them with a [[Revenge (G1)|ship]], and sends them to kill Ultra Magnus and destroy the Matrix, stating that the Matrix is the only thing which can stand in his way.

[[File:Tftm1986c.jpg|upright=1.1|left|thumb|Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed.]]
Galvatron first stops at Cybertron to take his revenge by killing Starscream and reclaiming leadership of the Decepticons. Almost immediately afterwards, Unicron arrives in Cybertron's vicinity and devours at least two moons—both of the Autobots' moon bases are destroyed. Under coercion by Unicron, Galvatron finally heads to Earth to kill Ultra Magnus, but Magnus and the other surviving Autobots flee in a pair of shuttles. Eventually Galvatron manages to cause one shuttle to crash on yet another metal planet ([[Quintessa (planet)|Quintessa]]), and detonates the other with a volley of missiles. However, the Autobots in the second shuttle escape unnoticed by separating the front portion of their shuttle just before impact.

[[File:TFTM Quintesson Palace.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Mos Eisley spaceport. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.]]
The Autobots in the crashed shuttle, Hot Rod, [[Kup (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Kup]], and the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], find themselves separated and in a hostile environment. Hot Rod and Kup are captured by a squad of [[Allicon]]s and taken before a [[Quintesson]] [[Quintesson#Judges|judge]] and his court. While being held there, they learn the name and nature of Unicron from [[Kranix (G1)|Kranix]], a survivor of the planet destroyed in the opening of the film, which he calls [[Lithone (planet)|Lithone]]. Meanwhile, the Dinobots encounter and befriend a young, wild Autobot named [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] who has been living alone on Quintessa. Together, they crash the trial just as Hot Rod and Kup are fighting losing odds against the Quintessons' [[Sharkticon (species)|Sharkticons]]. The tide is turned, and the Autobots commandeer a [[Quintesson Cruiser]].

[[File:Tftm1986d.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|What an incredible smell you've discovered!]]
The other group of Autobots has landed on the planet [[Junkion (planet)|Junkion]] to make repairs, but are attacked yet again by Galvatron, who was tipped off to their survival by Unicron. During the battle, Ultra Magnus tries to open the Matrix to use its power, but is unable to do so, and instead is killed. Galvatron absconds with the Matrix, taking it away to Unicron. The remaining Autobots—[[Perceptor (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Perceptor]], [[Blurr (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Blurr]], [[Springer (G1)|Springer]], [[Arcee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Arcee]], and [[Spike Witwicky (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Spike]]'s son [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel]]—are then ambushed by [[Junkion (species)|Junkions]], the eponymous natives of Junkion, who are also giant transforming robots. This battle is cut short, however, by the arrival of Hot Rod's group in their Quintesson ship. After exchanging the [[universal greeting]] they all make friends, and the Junkions restore Ultra Magnus to life. Together, the whole group travels to Cybertron to try to recover the Matrix and destroy Unicron.

[[File:TFTM Unicron smashes cybertron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Rebel base in range. You may fire when ready.]]
Galvatron attempts to open the Matrix to use its power against Unicron and force his master into submission, but is unable to open it. Unicron, not pleased with this attempted treachery, shocks Galvatron by transforming from a planet into a [[Scale|planet-sized robot]]. Unicron plucks Galvatron off his chest and swallows him, Matrix and all, and then begins attacking Cybertron itself. [[Shockwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Shockwave]] scrambles the Decepticon forces to defend the planet, but they are ineffective against so large an enemy. Shortly the Autobots arrive from Junkion, and fly the Quintesson ship straight through Unicron's eye. This impact destroys the ship, and the Autobots fall out inside Unicron. Hot Rod, separated from the others, eventually runs into Galvatron. During their fight, Hot Rod gets his hands on the Matrix and hears Optimus's voice speak the words, "Arise, Rodimus Prime." Hot Rod grows in stature, adopts a much sterner demeanor, and quickly dispatches Galvatron by tossing him through Unicron's hull out into space. He then opens the Matrix, which fills Unicron with light and begins destroying him.

[[File:Tftm1986e.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Use the Force, Luke.]]
In the meantime, the other Autobots inside Unicron have located some of their comrades from the moon bases who had been presumed dead, including [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] and Daniel's father, Spike. The Autobots, including Rodimus, escape through Unicron's remaining eye just as he begins to fall apart and explode. The scene then immediately shifts to the surface of Cybertron, where—for unclear reasons—the Autobots seem to be in charge again. Rodimus predicts an era of peace and prosperity, and the film closes with a shot of Unicron's severed head still floating in orbit around Cybertron.

[['Til all are one]].
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==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
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*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]])
*[[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime]] ([[Judd Nelson]])
*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] ([[Robert Stack]])
*[[Kup (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Kup]] ([[Lionel Stander]])
*[[Springer (G1)|Springer]] ([[Neil Ross]])
*[[Arcee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Arcee]] ([[Susan Blu]])
*[[Blurr (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Blurr]] ([[John Moschitta]])
*[[Grimlock (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Grimlock]] ([[Gregg Berger]])
*[[Perceptor (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Perceptor]] ([[Paul Eiding]])
*[[Blaster (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Blaster]] ([[Buster Jones]])
*[[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]] ([[Michael Bell]])
*[[Slag (G1)|Slag]] (Neil Ross)
*[[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]]
*[[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] ([[Frank Welker]])
*[[Ironhide (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ironhide]] (Peter Cullen)
*[[Prowl (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Prowl]] (Michael Bell)<ref group="fc" name="crednolines">Credited and appeared, but had no speaking lines.</ref>
*[[Jazz (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Jazz]] ([[Scatman Crothers]])
*[[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] ([[Dan Gilvezan]])
*[[Cliffjumper (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Cliffjumper]] ([[Casey Kasem]])
*[[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] ([[Corey Burton]])
*[[Gears (G1)|Gears]] ([[Don Messick]])<ref group="fc" name="creduncertain">Credited, but may or may not have appeared through an animation error.</ref>
*[[Auto-combatant]] (Frank Welker)
*[[Eject (G1)|Eject]]
*[[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]]
*[[Steeljaw (G1)|Steeljaw]]
*[[Ramhorn (G1)|Ramhorn]]
*[[Wheeljack (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Wheeljack]]
*[[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]]
*[[Ratchet (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ratchet]]
*[[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]]
*[[Grapple (G1)|Grapple]]
*[[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]]
*[[Hound (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hound]]
*[[Sunstreaker (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Sunstreaker]]
*[[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]]
*[[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]]<ref group="fc" name="crednoapp">Credited, but did not appear.</ref> ([[Walker Edmiston]])
|c2=
*[[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] (Frank Welker)
*[[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] ([[Leonard Nimoy]])
*[[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] ([[Chris Latta]])
*[[Cyclonus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Cyclonus]] ([[Roger C. Carmel]])
*[[Scourge (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Scourge]] ([[Stan Jones]])
*[[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] (Frank Welker)
*[[Devastator (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Devastator]] ([[Arthur Burghardt]])
*[[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]] (Michael Bell)
*[[Bonecrusher (G1)|Bonecrusher]] (Neil Ross)
*[[Hook (G1)|Hook]] (Neil Ross)
*[[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]] (Don Messick)<ref group="fc" name="appearnocredit">Appeared and had speaking lines, but not credited.</ref>
*[[Mixmaster (G1)|Mixmaster]]
*[[Long Haul (G1)|Long Haul]]
*[[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] ([[Hal Rayle]])
*[[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]] ([[Clive Revill]])
*[[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]]
*[[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] ([[Jack Angel]])
*[[Shockwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Shockwave]] (Corey Burton)
*[[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] ([[Bud Davis]])<ref group="fc" name="crednolines"/>
*[[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] ([[Ed Gilbert]])
*[[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] (Frank Welker)
*[[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] (Frank Welker)
*[[Laserbeak (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Laserbeak]] (Chris Latta)<ref group="fc" name="appearnocredit">Appeared and had speaking lines, but not credited.</ref>
*[[Ravage (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ravage]] (Frank Welker)<ref group="fc" name="appearnocredit">Appeared and had speaking lines, but not credited.</ref>
*[[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]]
*[[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]]
*[[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]
*[[Skywarp (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Skywarp]]
*[[Thundercracker (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Thundercracker]]
*[[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]]
*[[Sweep (G1)|Sweeps]]
*[[Cyclonus's Armada]]
|h3=[[Junkion (species)|Junkions]]|c3=
*[[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]] ([[Eric Idle]])
*[[Junkyard (G1)|Junkyard]] (Bell)
*[[Scrapheap (G1)|Scrapheap]] (Welker)
*[[Rubbish]]
*[[Re-Cycle]]
*[[Trashbin]]
*[[HAZMAT]]
*[[Ashtray]]
*[[Wasteoid Gamma]]
*[[Greasestain]]
|h4=Others|c4=
'''[[Human]]s'''
*[[Spike Witwicky (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Spike Witwicky]] (Corey Burton)
*[[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel Witwicky]] ([[David Mendenhall]])

'''[[Lithone (species)|Lithones]]'''
*[[Kranix (G1)|Kranix]] ([[Norman Alden|Norm Alden]])
*[[Arblus]]

'''[[Quintesson]]s'''
*[[Quintesson Prosecutor|Quintesson leader]] (Roger C. Carmel)
*[[Quintesson Judge]] ([[Regis Cordic]])
*[[Quintesson Bailiff]]
*[[Sharkticon (species)|Sharkticons]]
*[[Allicon]]s

'''Other'''
*[[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]] ([[Orson Welles]])
|nonumbering=true
}}
<references group="fc"/>

==Quotes==
[[File:TFTM European intro.jpeg|thumb|upright=1.4|It is a period of civil war. Rebel spaceships, striking from a hidden base, have won their first victory against the evil Galactic Empire.]]
"Now all we need is a little energon and a lot of luck." 
"More than you imagine, Optimus Prime."
:—'''Optimus Prime''' and '''Megatron''' tempt fate.

"Such heroic nonsense."
:—'''Megatron''' coldly finishes off Ironhide. The 'Cons always get the best lines.

"First, we crack the shell... then we crack the nuts inside."
:—'''Rumble''' bravely raids Autobot City.

"I've got better things to do tonight than die!"
:—'''Springer''', telling it like it is.

"One shall stand. One shall fall."
:—'''Optimus Prime''' uttering the most quoted line of the Movie. An ass kicker cometh.

"Why throw your life away so recklessly?" 
"That's a question you should ask yourself, Megatron." 
:—'''Megatron''' and '''Optimus Prime''', about to engage in one last battle to the death.

"You, who are without mercy, now plead for it? I thought you were made of '''''sterner stuff'''''."
:—'''Optimus Prime''''s trash talk is actually [http://www.enotes.com/shakespeare-quotes/sterner-stuff a lot cooler than it sounds].

"I would have waited an eternity for this! It's over, Prime." 
"'''''NEVER!'''''"
:—'''Megatron''' is about to learn that a wounded '''Optimus Prime''' has enough strength left for one good hit.

"Until that day...'til all are one..."
:—'''Optimus Prime''''s final words.

"Oh, how it ''pains'' me to do this." 
"Wait! I still function!" 
"Wanna ''bet''?"
:—'''Starscream''' fights back the tears as he throws '''Megatron''' out of Astrotrain.

"Soundwave superior, Constructicons inferior."
:—'''Soundwave''' insults the combiner team.

"I have summoned you here for a purpose." 
"Nobody summons Megatron!" 
"Then it pleases me to be the first."
:—'''Unicron''' shows '''Megatron''' who's the boss.

"Who disrupts my coronation?" 
"Coronation, Starscream? This is bad comedy." 
"Megatron? Is that you?" 
"Here's a hint!"
:—'''Galvatron''' drops "hints" for '''Starscream''' like others drop anvils.

"Oh shit! What are we gonna do now!"
:—'''Spike''' says the movie’s most infamous line.

"Did we ''have'' to let them detonate three quarters of the ship?" 
"Seeing as how they would have detonated ''four'' quarters, I think it was a good choice."
:—'''Arcee''' and '''Springer''', debating the launch of their emergency shuttle.

"Spare me this mockery of justice!"
:—'''Kranix''' is upset at being found innocent.

"You check in, but you don't check out."
:—'''Wreck-Gar''' making a reference to the tagline from the "Roach Motel." commercials

"For a time... I considered ''sparing'' your wretched little planet Cybertron. But now... you shall witness... its ''dismemberment''!"
:—'''Unicron''' really needs to work on his anger management skills...

"Destiny... You cannot... destroy... my... destiny!"
:—'''Unicron''''s final words.

"Let this mark the end of the Cybertronian Wars as we march forward into a new era of peace and happiness! 'Til all are one!" 
:—'''Rodimus Prime''' announces the end of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]]...yeah, right.

==Season 5==
When ''The Movie'' was broadcast in [[The Transformers (cartoon)#Season 5|the fifth season]] of ''The Transformers'', it was broken into 5 parts (designated "Days") and given new bookending segments with original story material.

===Day One===
[[File:TommyPrimeSeason5BumperMovie.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|You just watch yourself. We're wanted men. I have the death sentence on twelve systems.]]
[[Tommy Kennedy|Tommy]] meets up with [[Powermaster]] [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] in the barren wasteland and Prime is concerned with the black eye and many bruises Tommy is sporting. Tommy explains that some "big guys" at school tried to rough him up (and by all visual evidence, succeeded). Tommy asks Prime if he'd ever faced any "big guys" in his many adventures and Prime decides to tell him about the time he faced the "biggest guy" of them all, [[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]]...

Optimus leaves off at the point during the [[Battle of Autobot City]] when Megatron broke their defenses to let the slaughter begin. Optimus gruesomely teases his own death scene to a very confused and concerned Tommy, but reassures him that until he can be revived as a Powermaster, the Matrix must be passed on to someone else who is worthy. Tommy wants to hear all about it, but Optimus doesn't have the time. Apparently, he needs to meet up with [[Joyride (G1)|Joyride]] and help him [[Space bridge technician|repair]] the [[Space bridge]]. Tommy asks if he can tag along and Optimus tells him that if he can lift one of their two-ton screwdrivers, he can even help. They summarily blast off into space.
{{-}}

===Day Two===
[[File:PrimeExplodingMemoryChip.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.1|I've lost R2!]]
Tommy and Optimus meet up in the barren wasteland, though Prime isn't sure what Tommy wants. Tommy reminds him that he promised to tell him more about Unicron and Prime concedes that he's been having trouble with his memory chip, lately. Tommy tells him all about the Battle of Autobot City, but none if it rings a bell for Optimus. Prime asks Tommy to open up an access panel in the back of his head and check the circuit. Tommy repairs the circuit, jogging Prime's memory...

Prime leaves off at the point where [[Jazz (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Jazz]] and [[Cliffjumper (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Cliffjumper]] are eaten by Unicron. Tommy demands to hear more of the story, but Prime's memory chip explodes and smoke pours from the side of his head. All he sees are brief flashes of the further adventures of [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] and the rest. The furthest he can see, though, is the "death" of [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] when his shuttle is blown up by [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]]. Tommy expresses discontent, citing that the Autobots are "too cool to die". Prime says he knows there's more to the story, but with his faulty memory chip, he can't access the details. Tommy insists they get his chip fixed and so they blast off into space to do just that.
{{-}}

===Day Three===
[[File:TommyKennedyTraumatized.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|I can't even see. How am I supposed to fight?]]
Tommy finishes the repairs on Prime's memory chip, much to Prime's relief. Tommy asks Prime to test it out by continuing his story about the battle against Unicron. Prime indulges Tommy's request...

Prime leaves off at the point where [[Kup (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Kup]] and Hot Rod are taken to the [[Sharkticon (species)|Sharkticon]] pits and watch as the survivors of [[Lithone (planet)|Lithone]] are executed. Tommy begs Prime to stop, claiming that the story thus far is too intense and depressing for him to handle. Prime asks if he wants to hear about how Kup and Hot Rod are fed to the Sharkticons, how the Autobots are menaced by "aliens made of junk" or how Ultra Magnus is blown to pieces by [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]]. Tommy suddenly changes his mind and demands to hear all the gory, macabre details. Prime sets Tommy back down in the barren wasteland and promises to return soon to transform his day into an adventure. He then blasts off into space.
{{-}}

===Day Four===
[[File:PrimeTommyStopMotion.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.1|If there's a bright center to the universe, you're on the planet it's farthest from.]]
Tommy and Optimus meet up once again in the barren wasteland. Tommy asks why Prime is so late for their appointment and Prime confesses that [[Grimlock (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Grimlock]] took a wrong turn on the way over. Prime wishes he hadn't let the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]] fly the shuttle. Tommy asks if Prime has enough time to tell him more of the story and Prime assures him there's time enough...

Prime leaves off at the point where the Autobots team up with the [[Junkion (species)|Junkion]]s to battle Unicron. Tommy is incredulous, wondering what a bunch of aliens made of junk could possibly contribute to the battle against Unicron. Prime informs him that great adversities often bring out the best in people, citing Hot Rod as an example. Tommy begs to hear how the story ends, but Prime says that he must first take Grimlock to have his "brain circuits" upgraded. Setting Tommy down, Prime promises to be back soon to transform his day into an adventure. Then he blasts off into space.
{{-}}

===Day Five===
[[File:StanBushTheTouchMusicVideoRecordLabelNotes.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|He made a fair move. Screaming about it won't help you.]]
Meeting again in the barren wasteland, Optimus asks Tommy if he's ready to hear the end of the story. Contrary to all the enthusiasm Tommy has shown during past storytimes, the human child laments that he's forgotten most of the tale thus far (offering the flimsy excuse that his lack of an electronic brain makes remembering so many details impossible). Prime gives him "a quick rundown" (that takes ''four minutes'') and then proceeds to finish the epic yarn...

Prime finishes the story with the destruction of Unicron, the ascension of Rodimus Prime and the exile of the Decepticons. Prime asks Tommy if he's satisfied, but Tommy just has more questions. Like what was up with the [[Quintesson]]s? Did they drop Grimlock on his head when he was a kid? And how did they ever bring Prime back to life? Prime tells Tommy to slow down. He has to attend an interstellar peace conference, but until he returns, he leaves Tommy with... [[The Touch|THE TOUCH!!!]]
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==Production timeline==
* First script outline by Ron Friedman: revisions from 15th August 1984 to 19th September 1984
* First draft script by Ron Friedman: submitted November 12th 1984. Revised February 13th 1985.
* Reference photos of Powered Convoy toy designated as Ultra Magnus, provided to Ron Friedman: Taken 18th March 1985
* Second script outline by Ron Friedman: revised 28th March 1985
* Second draft script by Ron Friedman: completed 27th April 1985. Revised 2nd May 1985
* Model sheets approved 14th June 1985: Cyclonus, Galvatron (Marvel model with revised head), Hot Rod, Kranix (the pre-final model, can be seen with Granix name on it), Quintesson Judge (colour approved on 18th November 1985 by J. Bacal), Rodimus Prime, Scourge/Sweep, Sharkticon, Unicron robot mode, Wheelie, Wreck-gar
* Model sheets approved 24th June 1985: Ultra Magnus robot mode(first Powered Convoy version)
* Model sheets approved 2nd July 1985: Ultra Magnus (Initial Toei design. Colour revised on 20th July 1985)
* Model sheets approved 19th July 1985: Arblus robot mode, Spike (final model), Ultra Magnus vehicle mode(first Powered Convoy version)
* Model sheets approved 29th July 1985: Quintesson Prosecutor (a.k.a Quintesson leader. Approved by J. Bacal on 18th December 1985)
* Model sheets approved 31st July 1985: Arblus spaceship mode
* Model sheets approved 6th September 1985: Rewind flip side of the cassette mode
* Dialogue recording (main sessions): 10th and 11th September 1985
* Model sheets approved 3rd October 1985: Rewind and Eject
* Model sheets approved 8th October 1985: Lithonian Scientist, Lithonian Woman no.1

* Storyboard sequence 1 (Attack on Lithone): Final 31st October 1985
* Storyboard sequence 2 (Title sequence): Final 31st December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 3 (2005): Final 31st October 1985
* Storyboard sequence 4 (More Than You Imagine): Final 31st October 1985. Revised Final 14th November 1985.
* Storyboard sequence 5 (Attack On The Shuttle): Final 31st October 1985
* Storyboard sequence 6 (Gone Fishin'/Dare): Final 4th November 1985. Revised Final 14th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 7 (Battle Of Autobot City, part 1): Final 14th November 1985. Revised Final 25th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 8 (Battle Of Autobot City, part 2): Final 31st October 1985. Revised Final 14th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 9 (Death Of Optimus Prime): Final 7th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 10 (Witness To A Funeral): Final 7th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 11 (Contest For Leadership): Final 4th November 1985. Revised Final 13th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 12 (Transformation): Final 11th November 1985. Revised Final 26th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 13 (Coronation): Final 10th December 1985. Revised Final 18th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 14 (Destruction Of Moonbase One): Final 10th December 1985. Revised Final 19th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 15 (Escape): Final 16th December 1985. Revised Final 24th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 16 (Pursuit): Final 12th December 1985. Revised Final 26th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 17 (Nothin's Gonna Stand In Our Way): Final 11th November 1985. Revised Final 25th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 18 (Arrival On Junk): Final 12th November 1985. Revised Final 25th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 19 (Unwelcome Visitors): Final November 14th 1985. Revised Final 27th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 20 (The Matrix Survives): Final 12th November 1985. Revised Final 25th November 1985
* Storyboard sequence 21 (An Unexpected Friend): Final 18th December 1985. Revised Final 26th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 22 (Destruction Of Moonbase Two): Final 17th December 1985. Revised Final 26th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 23 (Ambush): Final 11th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 24 (Judgement/Rescue): Final 12th December 1985. Revised Final 26th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 25 (Another Leader Dies): Final 9th December 1985. Revised Final 26th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 26 (Unusual Allies): Final 19th December 1985. Revised Final 31st December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 27 (The Enemy Revealed): Final 12th December 1985. Revised Final 26th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 28 (Confrontation): Final 19th November 1985. Revised Final 6th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 29 (United Against The Enemy): Final 20th November 1985. Revised 4th December 1985. Revised Final 6th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 30 (In The Belly Of The Monster): Final 20th November 1985. Revised 3rd December 1985. Revised Final 6th December 1985
* Storyboard sequence 31 (Their Darkest Hour): Final 2nd December 1985. Revised 19th December 1985. Revised Final 31st December 1985

==Credits==
{{see|The Transformers: The Movie/credits}}

==Animation errors==
[[File:TFTM Unicron Small.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|We’re doomed.]]
*When Unicron is approaching Lithone at the start of the movie, at the line "Look, it's Unicron!", a [[Animation error#Sizing errors|cel stacking error]] results in Unicron's ring appearing in front of a building arch, [[Distribution|making Unicron look very tiny]] in that shot. In the next shot, it is clear that Unicron is several times larger than the entire planet of Lithone.
*The inside of one of the Lithonian ships being devoured by Unicron is visible for a couple of frames. The pilot of the ship appears to be Kranix, even though he apparently screams out Kranix's name, and Kranix appears later in the Quintesson prison.
*When Optimus Prime asks Jazz to report security status, it shows both Jazz and Cliffjumper. Cliffjumper is seen twiddling knobs above the actual drawn computer, as if a section was supposed to be present.
*Coloring errors:
**When the closeup of Cliffjumper doing his countdown is shown, his shoulders are blue (like his windows) instead of red.
**Scavenger's head is white instead of black as he ducks from Prowl's shot aboard the shuttle.
**Blaster's forehead is red instead of white after his "look out and shout!" line, and again after he returns to [[robot mode]].
**In the big lineup of firing Decepticons in Autobot City, Soundwave's cheek guards are blue instead of white.
**When Blaster asks Perceptor "What's shakin'?", a Dirge-colored Seeker flies by the window. However, it appears to be the standard Starscream/Thundercracker/Skywarp design, instead of having Dirge's unique wings.
**As Devastator lays into the walls, Shrapnel is white where he should be black.
**Megatron's pelvis is white instead of black as he gives the "let the slaughter begin!" order.
**When the Dinobots jump out of Optimus Prime's Shuttle, the shuttle is colored like the first shuttle, which Megatron boarded, instead of red-highlighted scheme of Prime's shuttle.
**When Prime says "No matter the cost", the shuttle is painted completely orange, when the front should have red and white highlights.
**When Prime drives up behind the Decepticons, Blitzwing's helmet is purple instead of yellow. Prime's trailer is missing its Autobot symbol as well.
**The gun Megatron uses to fatally injure Optimus is blue and white for most of the shots it is seen in, but when Megatron screams "Fall! FALL!" while shooting Prime again, it is black.
**Prime's antennae are white as he tries to stand after knocking Megatron off the ledge.
**Starscream's whole nosecone, rather than just the canopy, is yellow as he looms over the fallen Megatron.
**As Starscream prepares to toss Megatron out the door, Soundwave's eyes are painted white like his mask rather than red. (Maybe he was sleeping, his excuse for not stopping Starsceam)
**Starscream's cockpit shell nearest his head is colored like a canopy rather than gray, as he nominates himself for leadership. Man, even the A-list animation team couldn't keep this straight.
**When dragging Arcee into the shuttle and two shots later when flying into space Magnus's Shuttle has Blue highlights instead of Red.
**After Springer runs past him, Perceptor's gun changes from red to white for a few frames.
**When Cyclonus is strafing what appears via editing to be Hot Rod's shuttle, it has red highlights instead of blue.
**When Hot Rod's ship is being watched by Galvatron trailing smoke it has red highlights instead of blue.
**In the shot after Magnus announces that he cannot deal with that now, his ship has blue highlights instead of red.
**Shrapnel's lower legs are white when he lands on Junk, instead of black. Must be a side effect of being dead.
**When Hot Rod tells the Junkions the universal greeting, the Autobot insignia on his chest is colored black.
**After transforming, Unicron has all-white hands (instead of white with gold knuckles) and a white, rectangular chin (instead of the double-triangular chin with a goatee) he has later.
**As the Autobots fly through space after exiting Unicron's eye, Rodimus is painted in Ultra Magnus' colors (inverted).
*When the Decepticons blow a hole through the Autobot shuttle to get in, it is a clean break. However, Megatron is still shown ripping through random ship components to get in.
*When the Decepticons are killing the Autobot shuttle crew, there is one of the common Starscream/Skywarp/Thundercracker miscolors. Megatron transforms into gun mode and Starscream catches him, killing Brawn. When they cut back to the Decepticons, Starscream moves back to avoid the Autobots' fire, and a ''second'' Starscream is in front of the Constructicons without Megatron and is firing one of his arm rifles (this was probably meant to be Skywarp, as he flies into the shuttle and takes a seat at the controls once the Autobots are defeated). When they cut back to the Decepticons for the third time, Starscream has Megatron again and is finishing off the rest of the Autobots. In the shot of Starscream firing his own lasers, his wings are red instead of gray.
*Per his standard cartoon appearance, Ratchet should have a [[Red Cross]] symbol on each shoulder. When he turns in his seat as Brawn is shot down, we can see one on his right shoulder, but when he stands to return fire on the Decepticons, the right shoulder's cross has vanished, and he's only got one on his left shoulder. Then, when he falls, the cross is missing from ''both'' shoulders.
*When the Decepticons fly to the shuttle's controls:
**All of the Autobots have changed positions from when they fell—Brawn is now on his back, for example, while Prowl is now face-down.
**Ironhide's chest is completely intact, despite having a bunch of holes blown in it.
**Prowl, who turned gray as he fell (evidently dead before he even hit the floor) seems to be back in his normal colors.
*The reflections of Hot Rod and Daniel in the lake rarely line up with where they should be.
*When Hot Rod catches a fish, it is barely the size of his finger. When he releases it, it's [[Scale|suddenly huge]].
*Hot Rod has at least two totally different transformation schemes during the course of the film.
*When Hot Rod begins to shoot at the hijacked Autobot shuttle, the yellow light on his forehead is misaligned.
*When Kup and several Autobots at the roadblock react to Hot Rod's attack on the hijacked Autobot shuttle, Bluestreak is represented by Prowl's [[Character model|animation model]], in Bluestreak's gray and black colors.
*Sunstreaker appears with Kup's group on Earth as they observe Hot Rod firing on Ironhide's shuttle. Sunstreaker later appears as Optimus Prime's co-pilot when they arrive on Earth with the Dinobots, and is seen disembarking the shuttle along with Optimus Prime and Hound.
[[File:ShockwaveBattleAutobotcity.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|We've picked up a new group of signals... enemy fighters heading your way.]]
*In a wide aerial shot of the city under attack, a Reflector flies by in Ironhide's color scheme. Shockwave also makes his only appearance in the battle; considering both his role as Cybertron's guardian and his absence from any other scenes during the battle, his presence is probably an animation error. Rumble also flies past, despite being inside Soundwave at this point.
*A laser blast that should be behind Blaster is instead layered in front of him as he acknowledges Perceptor's orders.
[[File:TFTMRumbleFrenzytwored.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|[[FIRRIB|What]] about that [[R2-D2|blue one]]? We'll take that one.]]
*When [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] sends out his cassette troops, [[FIRRIB|Rumble is the same color as Frenzy]].
*Blaster first ejects what looks like Eject, who stays blue up until he gets to the edge of the screen. He then turns black like Rewind. Then Blaster ejects another blue cassette, which after about a second turns black. This one gets through half his transformation colored black, then turns blue for a split second then turns black again. Then, when the cassettes are fighting each other, Eject runs in from the left and jumps over Perceptor. And then he runs in from the left ''again'' to shoot Ravage.
*As Springer runs up to the launcher, Wheeljack's body is visible, but he's in the red, white and blue color scheme of Smokescreen - who, in the storyboards of this sequence, was intended to be the one lying there dead.
*While Springer and Arcee are trying to move the launcher into place, Springer's face is the same color as his helmet.
*During Devastator's combination sequence in Autobot City, his chest plate, portions of his pelvis, his forearms, and Bonecrusher's treads are all green. The chestplate and pelvis should be purple, as should Bonecrusher's treads (they're ''normally'' green when Bonecrusher is separate, but they turn purple when he combines), and his forearms should be black.
*For almost the entirety of his screen time during the battle in Autobot City, the "jet engine" on top of Devastator's chest plate is misinterpreted as a trapezoidal block. The only time it appears in its proper shape is when he high-kicks Grimlock. It appears as it should during the scuffle on Astrotrain.
*While Perceptor and Grapple are shooting, Swoop's lower half runs by in the foreground, long before the rest of him gets there.
*Prime's dramatic transformation sequence far outlasts the transformation sound that's supposed to go with it. It's also the wrong sound (ascending pitch) for his robot-to-vehicle transformation. His trailer is also missing the Autobot logo, which reappears for the rest of the scene.
*Prime is missing the transformation sound as he blasts back to robot mode.
*The gun Megatron fires uses the same sound effect as his fusion cannon.
*When Optimus Prime takes the Matrix out of his chest to give to Ultra Magnus, the animators forgot to remove the cel of the Matrix inside his chest, as it's still in there even as he's holding it in his hands. Since it's not supposed to be there, the luminous effect for the Matrix's core is missing from the duplicate in his chest, creating a visual trick that makes it look like Optimus might just have removed the core itself. (The [[Matrix of Leadership#Universe|''Universe'' comic]] would later use this error as a springboard to reconcile the visuals of Optimus's chest interior with their depiction in ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]''.)
*When Ultra Magnus accepts the Matrix, he's seen inserting it into his chest twice, or at best readjusting its "fit".
*As the other Decepticons prepare to push him out, Bombshell's chest is rendered as a shapeless gray mass, rather than with its yellow canopy.
*The voice that says, "Brothers! Don't!" is nowhere close to the voices of any of the five Decepticons shown getting thrown out of Astrotrain.
*When Megatron says "Nobody summons Megatron" his chest emblem is colored gray like his chest. It looks like it should have been painted as a darker shade of purple, as it's the shadowed section. But was painted gray instead.
[[File:TFTMStarscreamCoronationErrors.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4| *''trumpet fanfare''*]]
*Even after the [[Battle of Autobot City]], characters who are supposedly dead continue to appear in crowd shots and battles. Shrapnel's role in the fight on [[Junkion (planet)|Junk]] is the most noticeable (and he was called for by name in the original script), but Thundercracker, Skywarp and Kickback can all be seen at Starscream's coronation. The two jets are later seen again, flying into Unicron's mouth.
*In the establishing shot of Starscream's coronation, there are only five Constructicons (Bonecrusher had better things to do tonight) and they are miscolored as purple and white rather than their usual purple and green color scheme.
*Hook has two eyes instead of his normal visor as he looks around in confusion during the trumpet scene.
*An early establishing shot clearly shows Cybertron with two and ''only'' two moons in low orbit. Yet a third moon is visible right after Unicron finishes eating the two Autobot bases.
*When Galvatron introduces himself to the Coronation party, Soundwave's chest window is drawn far too small.
*When Galvatron says "Decepticons, to Earth!", aside from his mouth being partially open, his mouth doesn't move. I guess being reformatted by Unicron gives you the ability to talk without moving your mouth?
*In the scene where Bumblebee and Spike are in the [[Autobot frigate]] and escaping Moonbase Two's destruction, when the two are cheering after believing that Unicron has been destroyed, Bumblebee's on the left side of Spike's seat. However, after Spike expresses his "colorful" reaction to Unicron remaining completely unscathed, and when the frigate is about to get sucked into Unicron, Bumblebee is on the right side of Spike's seat.
*When Cyclonus is strafing the Autobot shuttle in space, he briefly flies offscreen, and during that time his laser blasts come from a point that in no way matches his flight path.
*During the wide shot of the Autobots in the crashed ship on Junk, Blurr's entire head is white. Also so is Daniels head, which is drawn as an indistinct incomplete circle.
*Daniel's lips don't purse when he whistles.
*Wreck-Gar's mouth doesn't move at all during his first lines, despite the camera pushing in all close on his face.
*The pistol Ultra Magnus fires uses the same sound effect as Optimus Prime's rifle.
*During the Junkion chase scene, Trashbin attacks Arcee. When she fights him off his motorcycle, his model is switched for Junkyard's when he falls down. And his head then flickers between colors when mounting Junkyard.
*When Grimlock gets kissed, his eyes are round instead of triangular.(Probably intentional expression)
*As Hot Rod falls off one of Unicron's inner spikes, his lower body isn't drawn in. It looks like it should be blocked by our view of the spike, but is layered above it instead.
*Hot Rod's missing his Autobot symbol as he regains his footing inside Unicron.
*As the Dinobots fly around Unicron, both his eyes are intact. (The left one had at this point been shattered.)
*The third smelting victim (who looks a lot like another Bumblebee) doesn't fall from the conveyor belt; he simply vanishes.

== Continuity errors ==
[[File:G1TFTM Snarl cameo.JPG|thumb|upright=1.4|He used to bulls-eye womp-rats in his T16 back home.]]

*The Dinobot [[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]] is mysteriously absent from almost the entire movie, even though the Dinobots as a group are featured prominently. Copies of the script which have come into fans' hands repeatedly list the Dinobots, but never make mention of Snarl by name. In fact, at one point the script refers to "the four Dinobots". Despite this, Snarl does appear in three very brief shots—in which at least one other Dinobot (Swoop in one, Sludge in another) is entirely absent. Hmm.
** On the other hand, the original production ''storyboards'' for the scene where Snarl first appears in the movie only mentions "the Dinobots", not a specific amount of them. Additionally, Snarl also seems to have been in the scene with Kup telling the Dinobots a story in at least ''one'' version of the film; the Japanese trailer for the movie has finished footage of this scene...but it's very different from the one in the film; the Dinobots are all in their robot modes, and Snarl is present in the scene instead of Slag. It's completely unknown why Snarl's appearance in this scene was cut.
*Also curiously absent are the 1985 Autobot cars and Mini-Vehicles, such as Inferno, Smokescreen, Cosmos, Warpath, etc. It would seem that these characters were available at the time of the movie:
**Perceptor and Blaster both debuted at the same time in the cartoon as the 1985 cars, and both play prominent roles in the movie.
**Grapple is [[:File:BattleAutobotCity.jpg|seen ''very'' briefly]] during the battle for Autobot City. Or maybe it's [[Hauler]].
**The 1985 Decepticons (Astrotrain, Dirge, etc.) appear in the film.
**[[:File:TFTM-SideswipeRedAlertTracks.jpg|Tracks]], [[:File:TFTM-RedAlertDown.jpg|Red Alert]] and Smokescreen (who was supposed to be the corpse in place of Wheeljack next to Windcharger) all appeared in storyboards but not the finished film.
*Devastator is treated as ''the'' ultimate threat, while in the cartoon, his role (and apparent power) was already being [[Starscream's Brigade|severely diminished]], presumably because several other combiners had been introduced. In story terms, the absence of these newer combiners, not to mention the mighty Omega Supreme, is inexplicable. In real-life terms, those characters didn't exist when the film commenced production. (The ''[[Transformers: The Animated Movie]]'' adaptation shows Omega Supreme, Superion and Defensor guarding the Ark against an attack by Bruticus and Menasor, attempting to [[retcon]] the problem away.)
*Possibly the biggest example of the film's tonal shift from the cartoon, shots from firearms that would previously knock another character down at best have since become lethal, best demonstrated when Brawn and Prowl are each killed with a single shot by the Decepticons during the movie's first act.
**While Prowl, Ironhide and Ratchet are shot straight through the torso, Brawn is killed by a single shot to his shoulder, which makes little sense.
[[File:Cyclonus armada tftf.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|We'll be safe enough once we make the jump into lightspeed.]]
*The existence of Cybertron's moons is contentious ''at best''.
**On the one hand, in numerous close and distant shots of the planet throughout the first two seasons, not a single moon was seen. Ever. Even after it got knocked out of Earth's orbit.
**On the other hand, Megatron ''does'' refer to Cybertron as "land of the metal moon" (note the singular) during "[[Microbots]]", suggesting otherwise. The fact that he was overenergized at the time and lost consciousness in mid-sentence - just before he ''might'' have specified a plural number of moons, (in)conveniently enough - makes it unclear just how much credence we should lend this statement.
**The movie promptly introduces two (possibly three) moons over the planet. In continuity terms, they must either have highly elliptical orbits with periapsides (points in their orbits that bring them closest to the planet) that just happened to coincide with the timeframe of the movie or they were constructed sometime after 1986.
*During the Battle of Autobot City, Starscream gets his leg caught. He shoots downward and gets away while screaming "My foot!", but it's his shin that's smoking while his foot looks fine. Later he kicks Megatron with the same foot. Shouldn't that hurt, according to him?
*So Ultra Magnus just happens to have a ready-made Matrix chamber installed in his chest cavity? Is this standard issue for all Autobots?
*The cartoon had already established that Astrotrain increases his size when he transforms to shuttle mode, being large enough to carry a pair of Decepticons in his cockpit. However, within the movie itself, his size is [[scale|noticeably inconsistent]]: When he leaves Autobot City, he's just large enough for the Decepticon army to cram themselves in; later, he's so huge that the Constructicons can quite comfortably form Devastator inside him. Perhaps he continued expanding when transforming from train to shuttle mode?
*Speaking of which, Astrotrain's entire body flips over when he transforms from train to space shuttle to escape from Autobot City. While ''we'' applaud the [[Show-accuracy|toy-accuracy]], the Decepticons inside probably didn't.
*Soundwave is loyal enough to pick up a wounded Megatron and save him, but when Starscream goes to throw Megatron out, Soundwave doesn't try to intervene. He even tries to steal the leadership once Megatron is gone. The "loyalty" attribute that has pertained so strongly to Soundwave seems to be alienated from the character in this scene.
*The number of minions created by Unicron changes throughout the film, with more Sweeps appearing as the story progresses. A second Cyclonus ("Cyclonus, the warrior, and [[Cyclonus's Armada|his armada]]") is shown being created but disappears shortly thereafter. At least ''seven'' new characters are shown at one point, created from only ''six'' Decepticons thrown from the shuttle.
*How can the Constructicons blow on those trumpets? Only [[Hook (G1)|three]] [[Bonecrusher (G1)|of]] [[Mixmaster (G1)|them]] have mouths.
[[File:SSBQ.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|"I've been looking forward to this for a long time." "Yes, I bet you have."]]
*[[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] is capable of reducing [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] to ashes with a single shot from his cannon mode. Though in later episodes Galvatron is shown blowing up even small ''[[Thrull|planets]]'' and being able to take down [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] with one shot from his cannon, his extraordinary killing power seems to be gone—like when he scores a direct hit in cannon mode on Ultra Magnus in "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5]]" and Magnus isn't especially hurt at all, or how a similar blast against Scourge in "[[The Burden Hardest to Bear]]" only leaves the latter temporarily incapacitated. [[Marvel Comics]] bios explain this by suggesting that Galvatron had nearly limitless power through Unicron... but then again, Galvatron himself claims to be "more powerful than ever" after Unicron is dead in "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 2]]". [[To sell toys|Who knows.]]
*Why didn't the Autobots notice Unicron until he was within devouring distance of Cybertron's moons? Why doesn't Shockwave, who is ''on Cybertron,'' react until after Unicron has eaten these moons, transformed into a giant robot, and ''smashed his hand into the planet's surface?''
*Despite running out of energon goodies on Quintessa, Hot Rod has at least one to offer to the Junkions.
*How did Hot Rod and Kup know to fly from Quintessa to Junk?
[[File:TFTMStarscreamVsUnicron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|This is either Starscream or his stunt double; hard to tell.]]
*When the Decepticons on Cybertron launch a counterattack on Unicron, all three of the first-year Seekers are seen fighting alongside the Coneheads. Given that all three were either explicitly killed earlier in the movie (Starscream) or have been turned into Galvatron's troops by this point (Thundercracker and Skywarp), they're obviously not supposed to be ''around'' in these forms anymore; of course, they could also just be [[generic]]s reusing their colors...but, as noted above, Thundercracker and Skywarp ''also'' appear at Starscream's coronation.
*Daniel, who was just learning how to use his exo-suit, had to knock down the acid cover inside Unicron to save his loved ones. Why couldn't the more experienced Spike do the same with his suit from above? He had both of his arms free and a clear shot at the cover.
*It's not clear how Rodimus Prime (carrying two humans) and the other Autobots survived their jump out of Unicron's eye and their plunge towards the surface of Cybertron.
*It's also unclear just how the dozen or so Autobots (and one shipload of Junkions) managed to retake the whole planet of Cybertron. Did Unicron really wipe out ''that'' many Decepticons?
* Unicron's invincibility is extremely inconsistent; Moments before becoming Galvatron, Megatron creates visible damage to Unicron's horns simply by attempting to hold into something. Later, he doesn't suffer even a dent when one of Cybertron's moons is detonated in his mouth. Near the end, the Dinobots are capable of punching their way through his "skin", and Rodimus Prime just casually throws Galvatron into space through Unicron's side. Even without the Matrix, the small group of Autobots did pretty well against him.

===Not necessarily errors===
*Fans have noted throughout the years that Astrotrain, in his flight through zero-gravity space, should not have needed to "jettison some weight" in the literal sense. However, since the ejected Decepticons quickly fall behind Astrotrain instead of floating alongside him, he must still have been accelerating and thus would have needed to burn a greater amount of fuel in order to push a larger payload. Perhaps he should have said "jettison some ''mass''", but then again, just being a spaceship doesn't make him a rocket scientist.
*Springer escapes from Unicron's eye by transforming into helicopter mode and flying through outer space, where there shouldn't be an atmosphere for his rotors to provide lift. Maybe Unicron was still within Cybertron's atmosphere?

==Continuity notes==
*''The Transformers: The Movie'' has had a huge effect in shaping the mythos. Among the elements and characters which would reappear in many other iterations of ''[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]'' are:
**The notion that [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] has moons.
**The [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] as a physical object, rather than the computer program previously depicted in the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|comics]]. Even the Marvel comics would eventually shoehorn this one in.
**[[Autobot City (disambiguation)|Autobot City]].
**[[Unicron]].
**The notion of [[Megatron (disambiguation)|Megatron]] becoming [[Galvatron (disambiguation)|Galvatron]].
**The idea of "[[Prime (rank)|Prime]]" being a rank rather than simply a given name.
**[[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|And it killed off Optimus Prime before it was cool]]!
*Cybertron's appearance in the post-titles establishing shot shows some major changes to the planet since our last look at it in Season 2. Many of the same buildings from the cartoon's stock image of the planet are there, but the giant pit near the planet's equator is mostly covered over, and the shredded portion of its southern hemisphere has been completely rebuilt.
*Gadgets and powers:
**Springer deploys a small flip-out twin laser from his wrist during the Autobot City battle.
**Arcee and Hot Rod both activate a long-distance scanner of some sort by lowering a red visor from under their helmets over their eyes.
**Megatron uses an "[[Lightsaber|Energy Dagger]]"<ref>[https://twitter.com/walruslaw/status/1204860124898181123 Reference sheets for various weapons used or planned for use in ''The Transformers: The Movie''] - TFRaw.com on Twitter</ref> during his one-on-one battle with Optimus Prime.
**Hot Rod uses a saw blade that extends from his retracted wrist.
**Blurr has the same kind of hooked welding tip used by various Autobots as far back as "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 2]]".
**Arcee unleashes a nasty barbed post from her fender to fend off a Junkion.
**Grimlock shows the never-before seen ability to [[GoBots|shoot lasers from his fists]].
*'''[[The Revenge of Bruticus|< <]]''' What makes Starscream the leader? Megatron's <s>dead</s> almost dead!

==Real-world references and Easter eggs==
[[File:TFTMUnicronSkyscrapers.jpg|thumb|I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.]]
*When the inside of Unicron is shown after he devours Lithone, the "blinking energy" effect of Unicron's innards shows, for a split second, what appear to be several images of post-apocalyptic buildings. These images look to be recycled background paintings from ''{{w|Fist of the North Star (1986 film)|Fist of the North Star}}'', a film [[Toei Animation|Toei]] had animated the same year. Regardless of animation efficiency/corner-cutting, the flashing images of ruined civilizations are eerily appropriate for Unicron.
[[File:TFTM Sludge Devastator.jpg|thumb|Your eyes can deceive you. Don't trust them.]]
*When Sludge gets haymakered by Devastator, his eyes pop out of their sockets in ''{{w|Looney Tunes}}'' fashion.
*Kup's storytelling sequence aboard the shuttle is drawn from the novel ''{{w|Of Mice and Men}}'', complete with Grimlock in the Lenny role asking Kup to "tell Grimlock about petrorabbits again".
*The Junkions speak almost entirely in pop culture quotes and pastiches. Littered among the generic phrases like "operators are standing by!", "Film at eleven" and "eliminate even the toughest stains" are more specific references, such as:
**"Don't look behind door #2, Monty!" - a reference to the game show ''[[Let's Make a Deal]]'' and its host, [[Monty]] Hall.
**"Ger-ronny-doo-ron-ron-ronny-mo!" - both the famous "{{w|Geronimo (exclamation)|Geronimo!}}" war cry, and the 1963 hit "{{w|Da Doo Ron Ron}}".
**"You check in, but you don't check out" - a parody of the tagline for {{w|Roach Motel (insect trap)|Roach Motel}} insect traps.
**"Happy motoring!" - the slogan of gas company [[Esso]].
**"Kill the Grand Poobah!" - a {{w|Grand Poobah|satirical term}} originating from {{w|Gilbert and Sullivan}}'s ''{{w|The Mikado}}'', likely referencing its use as the title of leaders of pseudo-Masonic lodges in ''{{w|The Flintstones}}'' and ''{{w|Happy Days}}''.
[[File:Tftm rosencrantz-and-guildenstern.jpg|thumb|Easy? You call that ''easy!?'']]
*The Quintesson jail cell includes robot debris ''strongly'' resembling [[:File:Tftm rosencrantz-and-guildenstern.jpg#parts|several mobile suits]] from 1985 Japanese animation ''{{w|Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam}}''.
*''[[Star Wars (film)|Star Wars]]'' sound effects (yes, even the high-budget Movie uses them):
**The ''[[Millennium Falcon]]'' engine burst noise is used extensively throughout the film, over and over and over, almost any time a Decepticon takes flight.

**[[Luke Skywalker]]'s deactivating [[lightsaber]] is used as the sound of the Quintesson ship's ramp extending.
**Clashing lightsabers are used as Unicron fires eye-blasts at the attacking Transformers.

**An igniting lightsaber is used as Rodimus opens the Matrix.
**An AT-AT foot stomp sound is heard as the Autobot shuttle crash lands on Junk.
**The whir of an AT-AT's leg hydraulics can be heard part way through Unicron's transformation.
*The ''[[Star Trek]]'' sliding door sound is used as Wreck-Gar pulls out his <s>iPhone</s> mini-TV.
*The sound used for the communicators on ''Star Trek'' is used when Daniel activates his blaster to save Spike.

==Adaptations==
*[[Transformers: The Movie (Marvel comic)|A comic adaptation of the movie]] was published by [[Marvel Comics]] in 1986, concurrently with the movie's theater run. It was based off a non-finalized version of the script, and differs in many details from the final film. Additionally, most of the major character models (and possibly their unedited original character write-ups) appear in issue #4 of the ''[[The Transformers Universe|Transformers Universe]]'' series.
*[[Transformers the Movie (Ladybird adaptation)|A storybook adaptation]] was released in the UK by [[Ladybird Books]].
*A four-part adaptation was released in 2006/2007 by [[IDW Publishing]], as part of the film's 20th anniversary celebration. It was titled ''[[Transformers: The Animated Movie]]'' to differentiate it from the [[Michael Bay]] [[Transformers (film)|live-action film]]. Unlike its predecessor, it adheres rigidly to the script and plot of the finished movie.

==Soundtrack==
{{main|The Transformers: The Movie - Original Motion Picture Soundtrack}}

==Promotions==
*Early in the movie's production, a [[The Transformers: The Movie promo|promotional trailer]] was made to sell the project to potential investors.
*The movie was advertised on related 1986 toy packages via the [[Decipher the Decepticon]] Sweepstakes, which included a pack-in poster and contest.
*The movie was heavily advertised directly by TV [[commercial]]s, and tail-end segments on Transformer toy ads. Portions of its story were also retold in altered fashion by animation segments of commercials for the movie character toys, such as a spot showing Springer doing battle with Wreck-Gar.
*[[Ziploc]] sandwich bags featuring an iron-on patch in boxed to advertise the movie. Each box contained one of eight potential characters.

==In the comic continuity==
The [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel UK comic]] made extensive use of the Movie as the basis for a series of stories involving the Transformers in the future. However, there are several differences between the events seen on screen and those referenced in the comic:

*The comic always dates the movie to [[2006]], following the date given in a treatment that was all [[Simon Furman]] had when he wrote "[[Target: 2006]]".
*In "Target: 2006", [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] states that he was previously "[[Life Spark]]".
*The Matrix is always called the "Creation Matrix" in the comic, a name that predates the "Matrix of Leadership" but which is now used for the same physical object.
*[[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] and [[Wheeljack (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Wheeljack]] both survive the events, both later appearing in "[[Space Pirates!]]" (set in [[2008]]).

In addition, [[Shockwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Shockwave]] definitely survives the attack by Unicron.

The US comic almost completely ignored the events of the Movie, though later in the run an alternative future is briefly shown in "[[Rhythms of Darkness!]]" and "[[A Savage Circle]]". In this timeline at least some of the events of the Movie took place such as the creation of [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] from [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]], which is dated to 2005, though [[Prowl (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Prowl]]'s death was overlooked. [[Prowl II|Wouldn't be the first time. Or the last.]]
*The US version of the future story "[[The Big Broadcast of 2006 (issue)|The Big Broadcast of 2006]]" implicitly has the events of the movie as part of its backstory. However, since the rest of the US series ignored the movie, this issue's place in the continuity is questionable.

==Edits==
Several English-language versions of the film exist, with the following differences in content from the American theatrical run:

*In some versions (notably the European version) the opening credits are replaced with a scrolling text ("''Star Wars'' style") which provides backstory.
*In some versions (notably the European version) the film ends with [[Victor Caroli|a narrator]] reassuring the audience that Optimus Prime will return.
*Instances of swearing in the film (there are two) were edited out; sometimes one, sometimes both. Those instances are: Spike yelling, "Oh shit, what are we gonna do now?" after the self-destructing Moon Base 2 fails to scratch Unicron, and Ultra Magnus growling, "Open, damn it, open!" while trying to open the Matrix to fend off Galvatron and the Sweeps on Junkion. The United Kingdom cinema version had the swearing included but, when it was released on VHS in the United Kingdom, Spike's line was cut ("damn" not being considered especially offensive in the UK). However it has been restored on all United Kingdom DVD releases.
*In some early FHE video releases, the shot of the Matrix falling out of Optimus Prime's hand and being caught by Hot Rod is edited so that it appears that Ultra Magnus simply takes the Matrix from Prime. Why this was done is not known, and the replay of the Hot Rod catch on Unicron's monitors was left intact.
*The original FHE video release of the film painted out all instances of Megatron's green-colored "bleeding" from the end of the battle of Autobot City up to his meeting with Unicron.
*Instead of DEG, the {{w|Rank Organisation|Rank Film}} "{{w|Gongman}}" appears before the British release of the film, as Rank were the United Kingdom distributors. Ironically, the DEG logo at the beginning uses the "Gongman" sounds, rather than its own fanfare, possibly due to a plastering mistake.

None of these edits significantly affect the story. They should not be confused with various other sequences which were changed before the film's final release:

*Originally, Ultra Magnus's "death sequence" on Junkion called for him to be lassoed and drawn and quartered by the Sweeps' energy beams, but this was deemed too graphic for audiences, hence the less disturbing "shot to death" sequence seen instead. There is evidence that the original sequence had been fully animated when the decision was made, however; the Sweeps still kept their solid energy lassos when they fire upon Magnus, and Magnus is seen visibly straining against what appears to be said lassos (edited out and replaced with laser fire) before exploding. This also explains why the Junkions only have to put his limbs back on to repair him.
*A number of other sequences were illustrated as [[storyboard]]s but dropped, presumably without ever being animated. Among them were:
**A short scene showing Ironhide piloting the Autobot shuttle through ''huge chunks of ice'' from the tail of a passing comet, explaining how the Decepticons caught them unawares. In response to a reprimand by Prowl who prickishly disapproves of Ironhide's piloting shenanigans, Ironhide exclaims, "I can sure as shootin' dodge a couple of ice chunks". When the Autobots are suddenly jolted by the Decepticon strike force as Megatron and his troops attempt to enter the shuttle, Ironhide tells the others on board, "That was no ice chunk...". Heroic nonsense ensues...
**An extended sequence with Hot Rod and Daniel outside the city.
**A sequence of Mirage blasting Bombshell and being fired on by Megatron.
**The Autobots finally bringing down Devastator with a barrage of missiles (and the Constructicons subsequently shooting Red Alert in the back).
**The Decepticons dogpiling Optimus Prime, explaining why he seems to be standing up just before his fight with Megatron, and no longer holding his rifle. According to storyboards, Prime gets bum-rushed by Blitzwing (who causes Prime to drop his gun), Starscream, Astrotrain, and Skywarp. While it is not clear how Prime defeated the first four hand-to-hand combatants, Dirge is later shown attempting one final sneak attack (and gets his can handed back to him) as Prime is talking to Megatron before the two leaders' final fight.
**Trailbreaker is shown dead among the wreckage of Autobot City as the Decepticons begin their retreat.
:Some of these concepts were in earlier versions of the script, and hence made it into the comic adaptation.
*Rumors have occasionally circulated in the fandom of additional animated footage that was dropped from the film, such as ultra-violent battle scenes. No evidence has ever surfaced to back these claims; the only known edits of any storyline or character importance are those listed in this section.
:{{see|Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers#The Transformers: The Movie|Urban legends about ''The Transformers: The Movie''}}

==Reception and box office==
{{quote|''The Transformers'', in which Orson Welles plays a planet, is pure headache material. Target audience of cartoon-watchers also will probably find the film unintelligible, noisy and unoriginal. Boxoffice prospects are dismal.|2=[http://books.google.com/books?id=DHNZAAAAMAAJ&q=Hasbro+Transformers&dq=Hasbro+Transformers&lr=&as_drrb_is=b&as_minm_is=1&as_miny_is=1983&as_maxm_is=12&as_maxy_is=2005&num=50&as_brr=0&cd=69 Variety's Film Reviews 1985-1986, Volume 19]}}

{{quote|Obnoxious animated feature about the title good guys, who defend the universe against an evil planet (which has a voice of its own... provided by Orson Welles.) That deafening rock score certainly doesn't help. Little more than a feature-length toy commercial.|Leonard Maltin, ''1987 Movie & Video Guide''}}

{{quote|While all this action may captivate young children, the animation is not spectacular enough to dazzle adults, and the Transformers have few truly human elements to lure parents along, even when their voices are supplied by well-known actors. |2=[http://www.nytimes.com/1986/08/09/movies/screen-transformers-animation-for-children.html The New York Times]}}

{{quote|Transformers -- The Movie, a feature-length animated film inspired by the syndicated TV cartoon series inspired by the Hasbro toy imported from Japan, is utterly uninspired entertainment. |2=[http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=DM&p_theme=dm&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0ED3CE8EA8D40CCA&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM The Dallas Morning News]}}

{{quote|If you can swallow, without gagging, a large measure of sentimental and offensive religiosity - lines like "Do not grieve. Soon I will be one with the Matrix," whispered by a failing hunk of Autobot metal - then you have a better than even chance of leaving the theatre on your own two feet. |2=[http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=01kiAAAAIBAJ&sjid=W6gFAAAAIBAJ&pg=2445,1286000&dq=transformers&hl=en The Montreal Gazette]}}

{{quote|Everything is poorly drawn and - when it's in focus - one dimensional. It is terribly hard to separate the robots from the backgrounds, and there is no easy way to tell the good guys from the bad guys. In an earlier movie based on the same sort of robot toys - "Go-Bots: The Battle of the Rock Lords" - the good guys were either white or colorful and the bad guys were dreary, and they had distinct personalities. Not this movie; everyone looks and sounds alike, except one pink robot who is a female good guy. Her tin voluptuousness makes her stand out. |2=[http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=kw4wAAAAIBAJ&sjid=OgMEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6957,6334152&dq=transformers&hl=en The Toledo Blade]}}

{{quote|Even with an all-star cast doing the voice overs... and a rock music score, this is still nothing more than a ripoff of a successful toy line. |2=[http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=AYckAAAAIBAJ&sjid=dtsFAAAAIBAJ&pg=4192,1494652&dq=transformers&hl=en The Palm Beach Post]}}

{{quote|The great animated villains, like the Wicked Queen in Disney's "Snow White," had motivations as compelling as any live-action character. Unicron apparently destroys entire worlds because it has nothing else to do. |2=[http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/57996397.html?dids=57996397:57996397&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=Aug+8%2C+1986&author=CHARLES+SOLOMON&pub=Los+Angeles+Times+(pre-1997+Fulltext)&edition=&startpage=8&desc=%60THE+TRANSFORMERS%27%3A+STRETCHING+A+POINT The LA Times]}}

{{quote|A surprisingly dark, emotional, and almost excessively cynical experience for Transformers fans.|2=[http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_the_the_movie/ Rotten Tomatoes]}}

''The Transformers: The Movie'' was almost universally panned by professional critics upon its release.

Well-known film critic and animation enthusiast, Leonard Maltin, gave it a rating below 1 1/2 stars in his ''1987 Movie & Video Guide'', regarding it as a "bomb", then proceeded to write an unflattering blurb denouncing the film as a "feature-length toy commercial".

Caryn James of the ''New York Times'' admitted in the [[August 9]], 1986, edition of the paper that the film was intended for young children, pointing out that the kids in the audience were having a grand ole time with the ''Transformer'' toys and comics they brought with them to the theater, but derided the film as having little to no appeal to adults.

''Variety's Film Reviews 1985-1986, Volume 19 '' was far less even-handed in their review, claiming the film had no appeal to adults ''or'' children. They predicted the film would perform poorly in the box office (and were correct, in that regard).

Carrie Rickey of the ''Dallas Morning News'' chided the film in the [[August 13]], 1986, issue of the paper, describing it as "essentially a cartoon ''Star Wars'' about robots from a toybox galaxy far, far away". She then went on to say that the film "never takes off" and derided it as "uninspired".

Janice Kennedy of the ''Montreal Gazette'' verbally disemboweled the film in the [[August 23]], 1986, edition of the paper, criticizing it as overly commercial, profane, loud, violent, humorless, heavy-handed in its religious messages and chaulk-full of gratuitous celebrity voice-overs. Her only compliment: "But ''The Transformers: The Movie'' does have at least one good thing going for it, a howlingly appropriate song by [["Weird Al" Yankovic]]. It's title? ''Dare to be Stupid''." ''Ouch''.

Nanciann Cherry in the August 13, 1986, edition of the ''Toledo Blade'' claimed the robots in the movie had little personality and faded into the background. She even went on to say that ''[[GoBots]]: {{gb|GoBots: Battle of the Rock Lords|Battle of the Rock Lords}}'' was a superior film! Her review was filled with inaccuracies, however, citing characters such as "Unicon" and claiming that the destruction of Cybertron's moons by "Unicon" is what caused the Autobots to travel to Autobot City, at which point Megatron attacked. To be fair, she readily admits, "About 20 minutes into the film, I gave up on the plot and tried to count all the ideas that were stolen from other sources. Now that kept me busy." So she wasn't really paying attention, anyway.

Kathryn Buxton in the [[August 22]], 1986, edition of the ''Palm Beach Post'' gave the film a whopping ''one'' star, calling it "a ripoff of a successful toyline", whatever ''that'' means. In the same article, she also gave David Cronenberg's ''[[Fly|The Fly]]'' one star, just for reference.

In the August 8, 1986, edition of the ''LA Times'', critic Charles Solomon made clear his dislike for the film centered primarily on the fact that none of the characters had interesting or believable motivation. He stated, "Not even the best actor can create a character out of nothing. Not one of the robots has a reason for doing what he does." Solomon then pointed to Unicron specifically as an example of the lack of deep, multi-dimensional motivations in the characters.

Over time, however, the movie has acquired something of a cult following beyond the core base of [[fandom|Transformers fans]], particularly among children of the '80s. It is sometimes screened as a midnight movie at colleges. Online, it is not hard to find amateur reviews lauding everything about it as utterly awesome, from the premise to the soundtrack, and dismissing more critical views out of hand. ''The Transformers: The Movie'' currently holds a 60% "fresh" rating based on 25 professional reviews at online review aggregator Rotten Tomatoes.<ref>http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_the_the_movie/</ref> In response to the film's cult following, several reviewers have compared the film in a favourable light to the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]]s (prior to the unprecedented critical success of [[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]), stating that they lack the heart or nostalgia of the '86 movie.<ref>https://www.inverse.com/article/7309-6-enduring-legacies-of-1986-s-animated-the-transformers-the-movie</ref><ref>https://slate.com/culture/2007/07/transformers-why-the-original-animated-movie-is-still-the-best.html</ref><ref>https://www.cinemablend.com/new/Sorry-Michael-Bay-Why-1986-Transformers-Movie-Best-43582.html</ref>

===Box office===
An [[August 30]]th, 1987 ''Los Angeles Times'' article on the decline and fall of the DeLaurentiis Entertainment Group listed ''The Transformers: The Movie'' as grossing $2.6 million in the United States on a $5 million budget.<ref>https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-08-30-fi-5144-story.html</ref> Both it and ''My Little Pony: The Movie'' (which earned $2.8 million on a $5.5 million budget per that same article) were financial failures, together losing Hasbro about $10 million in an otherwise profitable year.<ref>[https://twitter.com/tfwiki/status/895169922678042625 Sherilyn Connelly in ''Ponyville Confidential'' citing a May 21st, 1987 ''Providence Journal'' article by Neil Downing, "Hasbro Sees Record Sales and Profits".]</ref>

Confusingly, in comparison to the ''Los Angeles Times'' article, modern box office tracking sites<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=transformers.htm</ref><ref>http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/1986/0TRTM.php</ref> list ''The Transformers: The Movie'' as having made $5,849,647 in domestic (e.g., United States) theaters. Comparing this with the other online box office takes from animated films of 1986, the results are not particularly charitable; while it did better financially than ''{{gb|GoBots: Battle of the Rock Lords}}''<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=gobots.htm</ref> ($1,338,264) and ''Heathcliff: The Movie''<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=heathcliff.htm</ref> ($2,610,686), it performed worse than the 1986 ''[[My Little Pony]]'' movie<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=mylittlepony.htm</ref> ($5,958,456) and the '''second''' ''Care Bears'' movie<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=carebearsmovie2.htm</ref> ($8,540,346). Bringing up ''The Great Mouse Detective''<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=greatmousedetective.htm</ref> ($25,336,794) and ''An American Tail''<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=americantail.htm</ref> ($47,483,002) would really just be overkill.

==Significance in Transfandom==
''The Transformers: The Movie'' remains one of the most important elements of the entire Transformers brand, both within the fiction and from the perspective of the brand's popularity and "mindshare".

Fictionally, it established several story concepts that have been used repeatedly in the years since 1986, some of which—such as Unicron and the Matrix—are now central to the entire Transformers mythos. The movie is also the centerpiece of the most well-known Transformers continuity: the Generation 1 animated universe. The ''Transformers'' cartoon is split into "pre-movie" and "post-movie" sections which feature different characters and settings, and even somewhat different visual styles. (Most pre-movie episodes were animated by the studio [[Toei Animation|Toei]], while most post-movie episodes were animated by [[AKOM]].)

On a practical note, it was widely available on videotape, and remained so long after the ''The Transformers'' cartoon had gone off the air. Only a [[Family Home Entertainment|handful of series episodes]] were available on video, making ''The Transformers: The Movie'' the logical choice for someone looking to pick up a ''Transformers'' cartoon; this made it far more well known among fans than any particular cartoon episode.

To an entire generation of young fans, the movie was the most visually spectacular and narratively epic ''Transformers'' experience of their entire youth. Events such as the death of Optimus Prime are widely reported to have reduced many kids to tears. It is hardly a surprise that these emotional experiences embedded themselves deeply in many fans' memories.

Latter-day ''Transformers'' stories have made uncountable references (though [[The Transformers: The Movie/references|we're trying]]) to the movie, lifting or borrowing elements of its [[Minus One|dialogue]], [[The Transformers: Autocracy|fight sequences]], [[A Flash Forward|subplots]], [[Heavy Is the Head|details]], [[Less Than Zero|settings]] and more, as writers have discovered that a shout-out to the movie is a quick and easy way to win cheers from [[GEEWUN|some segments]] of [[Fandom|their audience]]. Even Hasbro and Takara themselves have gotten in on the act, producing a variety of toys based on the minutia of the film: [[Starscream (Armada)#Cybertron|Starscream's crown]], [[Galvatron (G1)/toys#United|Galvatron's creation]], the awakening of [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Rodimus Prime]], and more. The fandom, for their part, pores over new ''Transformers'' fiction, often latching on to even the most tangential of details as a [[The Search for Alpha Trion#Quotes|"reference"]] to the movie, [[The Burden Hardest to Bear|coincidental or not]]. Call-outs, real or perceived, were once a rare treat - but now are so common that many fans are more likely to groan than cheer whenever some version of Optimus Prime declares that "[[One Shall Fall|One shall stand...]]" or a damaged character states that "[[Unfinished|I still function]]" or a vengeful blast is preceded by "[[The Illusion of Control|Here's a hint]]" or yet another Soundwave says yet another variation of "[[Human Error, Part II|Soundwave superior]]", or... well... this:

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File:Transformersanimatedfilmposter.jpg|'86
File:TFTM1.jpg|'86 again
File:Botcon2000-movieposter.jpg|2000
File:TFvol1 31cvrRI.jpg|2010
File:Timelines10 diamonded.jpg|2014
File:Echoes and Fragments cover.jpg|2016
File:LL1 Riptcvr.jpg|2018
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In 2016, thirty years after the release of the film, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Optimus Prime]] gave us perhaps one of the most meta comeback lines in franchise history. When [[Galvatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Galvatron]] declares that "Today — one shall stand, and two shall fall!", Optimus simply punches him in the face with a flat "No cliches, Galvatron", voicing once and for all just how sick we've gotten of '86 quotes. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 6: No Fair Fights|No Fair Fights}}

{{quote|...wait, I only just noticed something. Did they actually manage to go the entire episode without quoting the 86 movie?|[http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/94625-episode-65-beast-hunters-episode-13/page-4#entry2360303 Allspark poster Unit Eleven]}}

==Criticisms==
[[File:TFTM Ratchet dies.jpg|left|thumb|Only [[Stormtrooper (SW)|Imperial Stormtroopers]] are so precise.]]
All this is not all to say that the movie is a "masterpiece", exactly. The film met with extremely harsh critical reviews on its release, and some of those criticisms still ring true today.

The film displays an arguably cynical attitude towards itself as [[To sell toys|a vehicle for advertising toys]], especially in the way [[The Transformers (cartoon)/cast|beloved characters]] are killed—sometimes gratuitously—for sake of justifying the story's focus on a new group of toys. (Note that with the exception of Laserbeak and possibly Buzzsaw, the poster at the top of this article features ''only'' new characters.)

Further, the two primary plot devices—[[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]] and the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]]—have no prior establishment in the fiction. Unicron is given no backstory ([[Call of the Primitives|until season 3]]) or justification; he simply exists, is very dangerous, and is afraid of the Matrix, all for no adequately explained reason. The introduction of the Matrix itself is a heavy [[retcon]]. The story asks the audience to accept that this cosmically powerful artifact has been in Optimus Prime's possession all along (even though Prime's open-chested repair scene in "[[Divide and Conquer]]" and his X-ray scene in "[[A Prime Problem]]" show absolutely no signs of said Matrix), but has somehow never been relevant before. In fact, this lack of prior establishment is what led [[Simon Furman]] to develop the divinity backstory of Unicron and [[Primus]] in the UK comics run.

[[File:Megatronlightsaber.jpg|thumb|Your powers are weak, old man!]]
The movie bears many similarities to ''[[Star Wars (film)|Star Wars]]'': There are several character-parallels ([[Springer (G1)|Springer]] is a [[Han Solo]]-type and [[Arcee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Arcee]] even has Princess Leia's hairdo!), the primary threat is similar (it's the [[Death Star]]... [[Unicron/Generation 1|but it transforms!]]), and both feature a climactic battle where the [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|young hero]] hears the voice of his [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|dead, wise mentor]] one last time before saving the day.

To be a bit more fair to ''The Transformers: The Movie'', however, most of these similarities are either superficial (Arcee's Leia-hair; Megatron's "lightsaber" he briefly uses in his duel against Optimus Prime) or can be seen as elements common to thousands of years' worth of epic storytelling through human history, not just common to ''Star Wars''. As a simple example, the phenomenon of two charismatic leaders dealing each other mortal injuries in battle hearkens back to some versions of the "[[King Arthur]]" myth; in their final battle, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Arthur]] and his arch-enemy [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Sir Mordred]] deal one another lethal injuries and both apparently expire—though Arthur according to the legend will [[The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1|return]] when [[Cybertron (planet)|England]]'s need [[Darkest hour|is greatest]].
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==Formatting==
[[File:Tftm widescreenesque.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|The "widescreen" picture (left) actually ''cuts off'' the top and bottom of the fullscreen picture (right). Your eyes can deceive you; don't trust them.]]
Although it was billed in some advertisements before its theatrical release as being "widescreen", the movie was in fact animated in a 4:3 (fullscreen) aspect ratio. For its theatrical screenings, the film was matted down in the projector by the projectionist to a 16:9 aspect ratio (widescreen), chopping the top and bottom off the picture, but all video transfers of the movie were done without mattes, meaning that there was actually more picture visible in the fullscreen video and DVD releases than there would have been in theaters. Across 2006 and 2007, new editions of the DVD of the film were released by Sony BMG and [[Metrodome]] which applied the mattes in order to replicate the original theatrical presentation of the film for the first time in home entertainment. Some fans, however, didn't realize that the film wasn't actually ''animated'' in widescreen, and, hearing that the DVD was to be in widescreen, expected to see the fullscreen image with additional footage at the sides, causing them to complain that the top and bottom were cut off, thereby totally missing the point.
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==International versions==
{{main|The Transformers: The Movie/dubs}}

==Commercial releases==
[[File:TFTM LaserDisc cover.jpg|thumb|The cover image from the original Japanese home media release of the movie.]]
*The movie was originally released in North America on VHS and Beta on [[September 17]]th, 1987<ref>http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1964&dat=19870911&id=YhAuAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Ls8FAAAAIBAJ&pg=3198,2881581</ref> by [[Family Home Entertainment]], minus Spike's swear. Not long after, it was released in the UK by [[Video Gems]]. This version featured the opening text crawl and closing narration inherent to the UK version of the film. In Australia, the film was released on video by RCA/Columbia Pictures/Hoyts. In Japan, Hillcrane released a {{w|LaserDisc}} version alongside a VHS copy, both sporting a gorgeous painted cover that decorated many a fan's desktop back in the day.
*The movie was released spottily in the '90s, beginning with a budget VHS by Avid Home Entertainment in 1991. [[Malofilm]] released a VHS in Canada in 1995, notable for being the first home entertainment version to include Spike's swear. In 1998, Japanese company Pioneer produced another pair of LaserDisc and VHS releases. In 1999, things kicked off when American company [[Rhino Entertainment|Kid Rhino]] secured the Transformers license and released the film on VHS once again.
*The 21st century's flirtation with ''The Transformers: The Movie'' started with a UK budget VHS release of that country's version by [[Sony|Sony Wonder]], distributed by [[Maverick Entertainment]]. A Japanese company called CatCo followed this up with a VideoCD, and Malofilm—now Seville—were the first to release a DVD version of the film, though it was just a dump of their VHS version.
*In November 2000, ''The Transformers: The Movie'' got its first, full professional DVD release from Kid Rhino. This edition, labelled a "Special Collector's Edition", is the first to feature remastered video and audio, and several special features, including storyboards and an interview with [[Vince DiCola]]. Rhino concurrently released this version on VHS, sans extras.
*In 2001 in the UK, Sony Wonder released their own much-delayed DVD version of the film. It was the UK version of the film, but included Spike's swear. However, the release was burdened by badly interlaced video, though it notably included the [[Omni Productions]] dub version of the ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)|Headmasters]]'' episode "[[Four Warriors Come out of the Sky]]" as an extra. This version (including the ''Headmasters'' episode) was simultaneously released on VHS.
*The movie was released on DVD in Australia in 2003 by [[Madman Entertainment]], using the same video as the Maverick version, but distinguished by some nifty new cover art by [[Don Figueroa]], and special features not seen on other editions, such as ''[[Stan Bush|The Touch]]'' music video and 80s TV spots.
[[File:Tftm uk covers.jpg|thumb|The UK poster art (left) has been the most common DVD and VHS cover in its home country, but the Ultimate Edition featured new art by Andy Wildman (right).]]
*After acquiring the license to release ''Transformers'' DVDs in the UK, [[Metrodome]] focused on completing their run of series box sets before turning their attention to the movie properly, releasing only a cheap budget DVD of the UK version through Prism Leisure with no extras, and a UMD of the same version.
*In 2005, Metrodome released ''Transformers: The Movie - Reconstructed'', a new version of the film designed to expose as much of the animated picture as possible. This, however, only resulted in exposing the rough, unfinished edges of the animation, and an overly pale remaster was compounded by excessive interlacing due to an unnecessary NTSC to PAL transfer. This, coupled with a 5.1 remix from [[Magno Sound & Video]], featuring the same extra sound effects that they added to Rhino's season box sets, made this release both controversial and disappointing to many. This was the first time that the US version of the movie was released in the UK, and the first to feature the US poster art as a cover (although a Silverscreen store exclusive version of the disc included a reversible cover with the UK poster art as well). Extras include trailers, TV spots, the character biographies from the Madman release, a looped version of the Lion ''Transformers'' theme on the main menu, and a subtitled version of "[[Four Warriors Come out of the Sky]]".
[[File:Tftm sony covers.jpg|thumb|Sony's covers, by Don Figueroa.]]
*For the movie's 20th anniversary in 2006, new license holder [[Sony|Sony BMG]] released a two-disc special edition of the film, featuring both a high-quality widescreen remaster and the original fullscreen version, audio commentaries from crew and fans, several new featurettes interviewing those involved in the movie's production, storyboards, TV spots, American and Japanese commercials and more. Most notably, this version included the first Western release of "[[Scramble City: Mobilization]]", albeit silent and unsubtitled, featuring only audio commentary. Also very notable is that this version includes an actual deleted scene from the animated film as an extra, though it is more of interest as a curiosity than anything it actually contains, being an approximately 2-second-long aerial view of the Autobots running towards the critically damaged Optimus Prime. This release featured two covers by Don Figueroa: one is of the '84-'85 cast that appear in the movie, and one is of the movie's new characters, available either as a lenticular hologram that switches between the two, or as a reversible sleeve with the images printed on either side.
[[File:Tftm madman covers.jpg|thumb|Madman's 2003 DVD cover (left), and their 2007 Special Edition cover (right).]]
*Delayed a bit to coincide with the hype for the 2007 [[Transformers (film)|live-action movie]], Metrodome also released a two-disc "Ultimate Edition" with a different widescreen master. Like "Reconstructed", this version used the US edition of the film, but this time, the UK version was also included, in fullscreen, on the second disc. Extras include TV spots, commercials, the Madman biographies, storyboards, commentary, "Scramble City" (with audio and subtitles), featurettes with [[Flint Dille]] and [[Peter Cullen]], and more. The double-disc edition was sold in a steel case featuring new art by [[Andrew Wildman]], with the UK poster art adorning the standard case inside. Various store exclusives were available, including postcards from Play.Com, a reversible cover with the US poster art from HMV, art cards from Virgin Megastore and [[posters]] from Woolworths and [[Toys"R"Us]]. It was also available in an extra-less single-disc version. This version was premiered at the Mid Ulster Film Festival in Ireland which was the only cinema showing of the remastered version of the film to date.
[[File:ShoutFactory TFTM BluDVD.jpg|thumb|Shout! Factory's 2016 Blu-ray cover.]]
*The film was released in Full HD 1080p on Blu-ray in the UK in October 2007. The Blu-ray is not region-locked, so it will play anywhere in the world. It features a 2.0 soundtrack, 5.1 Dolby Digital track, and a full bitrate DTS 5.1 track. The master used was the same used by Sony for their US DVD. Sadly, there are no extras on the DVD. The version of the film on the Blu-ray is the US one, complete with curse words.
*Madman produced their two-disc special edition through some collaboration with Metrodome, and consequently it features much of the same content, with additional extras taking the form of The Touch music video and a bonus episode of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]''. This release again features cover artwork by Don Figueroa, specifically the cover of [[IDW Publishing|IDW]]'s ''[[Transformers: The Animated Movie]]'' adaptation.
*For the film's 30th Anniversary, and after being out of print in the US for 10 years, the film was rereleased on Region 1 DVD and given its first Region A Blu-ray release on [[September 13]], [[2016]] by [[Shout! Factory]]. Both versions are sourced from a brand-new 4K transfer which underwent extensive color-correction and remastering, and a Steelbook packaging variant of the Blu-ray was also made available.<ref>[https://www.shoutfactory.com/film/action-adventure/the-transformers-the-movie-limited-edition-30th-anniversary-steelbook The Transformers: The Movie Limited Edition 30th Anniversary Steelbook]</ref> The Steelbook Blu-ray was released in the UK by [[Manga Entertainment]] as a limited edition on December 12, 2016, followed by a standard edition release a year later.
*On September 27, 2018, Fathom Events screened the movie at select theaters in the United States. The movie was preceded by an interview with [[Travis Knight]] and [[Hailee Steinfeld]] and a preview of a scene from ''[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]'', and followed by a short featurette of Stan Bush discussing the music he contributed to the movie and performing acoustic versions of ''The Touch'' and ''Dare''.<ref>[http://news.tfw2005.com/2018/08/01/1986-transformers-movie-hitting-theaters-one-night-only-369314 1986 Transformers Movie Hitting Theaters One Night Only!]</ref> Cineplex would later show the movie in Canadian theaters on October 4.
*For ''The Transformers: The Movie''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s 35th anniversary, a Zavvi-exclusive Blu-ray cover with an optional steelbook was released on October 25, 2021 in the [[United Kingdom]], illustrated in the highly distinctive art style of [[Matt Ferguson]]. Themed clothing and variant prints also designed by Ferguson were simultaneously released as merchandise. Due to being exclusive to UK retailer Zavvi, the Blu-ray set could potentially be difficult for American collectors to track down.
*For the 35th anniversary in the U.S., Shout! Factory released an even-more-updated version of the steelbook Blu-ray on [[August 3]], 2021. This version boasted a new 4k transfer from the original film elements, as well as a feature-length storyboarding treatment.
*Fathom Events once again returned the film to select theaters on [[September 26]] - [[September 27|27]], 2021.

==Television broadcasts==
Following a segmented, five-part broadcast during [[The Transformers (cartoon)#Season 5|the fifth season of ''The Transformers'']], the complete feature film was aired on American television in 1989 via Fox stations. Air dates and times were June 17 at Noon, July 30 at 11 A.M. and September 2 at 10 A.M. Of course, this was the language-edited video release from Family Home Entertainment.

The movie was aired on [[Hub Network|The Hub]] on February 18, 2012, following [[Orion Pax, Part 1|the Season 2 premiere]] of ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' on what was called "Transformers Mega Saturday". Uniquely, this version combined the European opening narration with the US scrawl-free opening credits, muted the two swear words (rendering the lines as "It isn't even dented! ...What do we do now?!" and "Open... ''Open!''"), used the European closing narration at the end, and sped up the scroll of the end credits to cut it down for time, ending the lyrics of the [[theme song]] around the beginning of its second verse ("Strong enough to break the bravest heart..."). Subsequent re-airings on The Hub aired this version of the movie.

The American television airing of the feature film adds one extra sound effect, and it has never been heard in any other release. During the scene when Arcee is racing to jump aboard the departing Autobot shuttle, there is a distinctive sound effect when she jumps. In all other releases there is no sound effect.

A July 4, 2014 Hub broadcast of the movie markets it as ''Transformers: The Animated Movie'', distinguishing it from that computer animation/live action [[Transformers (film)|hybrid film]] with the similar title made two decades and one year later.

==Notes==
*According to [[Buzz Dixon]], Hasbro's decision to kill off Optimus Prime was actually an attempt to maintain some brand-storytelling parity with ''[[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]'', as Dixon had just convinced them to allow the death of [[Duke (G.I. Joe)|Duke]] in ''{{w|G.I. Joe: The Movie}}'' and both films were in production at the same time.<ref>http://www.joeheadquarters.com/interviews_dixon.shtml</ref>

*This film was the last professional performance by [[Orson Welles]], who died only a month later. According to production materials shown at [[BotCon 2000]] by Tim Finn, the voice recording sessions for ''The Transformers: The Movie'' were done on [[September 10]] and [[September 11|11]] of 1985. Welles died on [[October 10]] of that same year. It has often been speculated that Unicron's last line ("Destiny… you cannot destroy my destiny!") was recorded by another actor—possibly [[Leonard Nimoy|Nimoy]]—because it sounds different than the other lines. This speculation has been quashed by statements by Transformers voice director [[Wally Burr]].<ref>http://cybertronchronicle.freewebspace.com/60-astrominutes/wally-burr/wally-burr-3.html</ref>
[[File:Windcharger wheeljack otp.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Uncle Owen! Aunt Beru!!]]

*With the exception of Starscream and possibly Shockwave, only the Autobots suffered fatalities in the movie. All of the other "dead" Decepticons from the Autobot City battle were rebuilt into Galvatron's new troops, and although more Decepticons were shown taking heavy damage and suffering huge casualties while fighting Unicron, their identities and their final condition are uncertain. Additionally, both Starscream and Unicron survived in the post-movie series in some form or another. Shockwave's death in the finished film is highly uncertain, although in the script it is fairly strongly implied. He does make some miscolored appearances in crowd shots in later cartoon episodes, but these are probably examples of the fairly common animation errors in those episodes.

*Somewhat ironically, though only three of the original eighteen Autobots - [[Jazz (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Jazz]], [[Cliffjumper (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Cliffjumper]], and [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] - are definitively shown to have survived the movie, two would quite literally never be heard from again: [[Scatman Crothers]] passed away (though this didn't stop Jazz from making any number of background cameos) while Casey Kasem [[Casey Kasem#Notes|quit the show early in the third season]]. Fate's finger is fickle indeed.

*The Dinobots spend the majority of the film in their dinosaur modes, a practice that would eventually carry into season 3 of the cartoon. Swoop is the only one to spend extended amounts of time in robot mode, due to the anatomical issues of walking in a flight-based mode. However, there are some instances where they're briefly shown in robot mode for blink-and-you-miss-it moments, for no reason whatsoever.

*Unicron's roars in the movie were stock vocalizations originally created for Marvel Productions' 1982 ''The Incredible Hulk'' animated series and performed by voice actor Bob Holt, who voiced the [[Hulk]] in that show. Holt otherwise never voiced a character in the Marvel/Sunbow Transformers series (although he was a regular member of the ''{{gb|Challenge of the GoBots (cartoon)|Challenge of the GoBots}}'' cast as the original voice of [[Cop-Tur (GoBots)|Cop-Tur]]), and had passed away the year before ''The Transformers: The Movie'' was released in 1986. Thus, Unicron has the distinction of featuring ''two'' posthumous performances for the same Transformers character in a single production.

*[[:File:TFTM-MaybeBeachcomber.jpg|A robot resembling Beachcomber]] appears alongside Spike and the Autobots inside Unicron seconds before Daniel blasts the acid cover. Whether this was actually meant to be Beachcomber or just coincidental coloring is unknown, but regardless, Beachcomber shows up alive and well in "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5]]".

*Pieces of music from the movie would later be used in the Commodore 64 version of ''Turrican''. For instance, basically unaltered bits of "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWFx-Go6Y6A Escape]" make up [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6jjpwpDVNY Subsong Two of the game's title theme].

*In the years that have passed, production material has since surfaced that revealed some—if not all—the original 1984 and 1985 characters receiving color changes to their [[character model]]s for the movie, as shown by color layout charts. These so far include: [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]. Though these color charts exist, the final film did not utilize these changes to the character models, instead keeping with the original colors. A user on Allspark.com that goes by the username "DM" has worked hard to accurately recreate the original cartoon models with the correct colors based on color charts and original cartoon and film production material, and has likewise recreated these unused color concepts. Unfortunately, due to Allspark.com's server crash and overhaul in [[2021]], this thread no longer exists, aside from a few web archive captures that were made several months before the server crash. Luckily, friends of DM have worked hard to make sure his work is still widely documented on [https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/d-m-s-most-accurately-coloured-g1-animation-models-online.1201950/ TFW2005.]

* In {{w|The Goldbergs (TV series)|The Golbergs}} episode "The Darryl Dawkins Dance," set during the 1980s, Adam watches ''The Transformers: The Movie'' believing all his heroes from the TV series will survive, only to discover the devastating truth. He is especially hurt by the death of Optimus Prime, and recreates his own version of the movie at home with his grandfather dressed in a highly detailed homemade costume.
{{--}}

==External links==
*[http://cybertronchronicle.freewebspace.com/cartoon-dossier/movie/movie.html ''The Transformers: The Movie'' Dossier at The Cybertron Chronicle]
*[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3212281345/weekend/ ''The Transformers: The Movie'''s box office domestic gross.]
*[http://web.archive.org/web/20080426020409/http://www.tftm.net/ ''The Transformers: The Movie'' "Unofficial Fansite", an extremely thorough site about the movie]
*[https://sunbowmarvelarchive.blogspot.com/p/mp-4034-transformers-movie-sunbow.html Draft scripts and storyboards on Sunbow and Marvel Archive]
*[http://zobovor.tripod.com/transformers_the_movie_bloopers.html The Transformers: The Movie Bloopers]

==References==
{{Reflist|2}}

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[[Category:The Transformers episodes]]
[[Category:Generation 1 media]]
[[Category:MSTF]]
[[Category:Real world films]]

Orson Welles

2021-06-12T19:28:21Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

[[Image:OrsonWellesWineCommercial2.jpg |right|300px|thumb|"What follows is a terrifying journey into the world of probate, beneficiaries and '''goblins'''!"]]

'''George Orson Welles''' ([[May 6]], [[1915]] – [[October 10]], [[1985]]), actor and director, was born in Kenosha, [[Wisconsin]] and lived a fairly eventful life, in case you hadn't heard. For starters, in [[1938]] he convinced a bunch of rubes that [[Martian]]s were invading the [[Earth]] with his ''[[The War of the Worlds]]'' radio show. On screen, Welles had a highly memorable role in ''The Muppet Movie'', where he gave Kermit the Frog his big break in [[Hollywood]]. Oh yeah, he also made some movie about {{w|Citizen Kane|some guy who wants a sled}} (''spoiler alert'').

It wasn't until 1985 that Mr. Welles finally fulfilled his true destiny by playing the planet-gobbling world [[Unicron]], although, sadly, Mr. Welles died before the movie was released in [[1986]].

{{quote|You know what I did this morning? I played the voice of a toy. Some terrible robot toys [[TakaraTomy|from Japan]] that changed from one thing to another. The Japanese have funded a [[The Transformers: The Movie|full-length animated cartoon]] about the doings of these toys, which is all bad outer-space stuff. I play a planet. I menace somebody called Something-or-other. Then I'm destroyed. My plan to destroy Whoever-it-is is thwarted and I tear myself apart on the screen.|Orson Welles, on his final film performance<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=KlqsYy512WIC&source=gbs_navlinks_s "Orson Wells: A Biography"] page 522</ref>}}

{{quote|The irony of [Welles] playing a planet-sized eating machine wasn't lost on anyone.|[[Michael McConnohie]]<ref>[http://cybertronchronicle.freewebspace.com/60-astrominutes/michael-mcconnohie/michael-mcconnohie-3.html Cybertron Chronicle interview with Michael McConnohie]</ref>}}

==Voice roles==
===''The Transformers: The Movie''===

*[[Unicron]]

==Fiction==
===2005 IDW continuity===
After viewing [[Starscream: The Movie (film)|''Starscream: The Movie'']] and learning that [[Thundercracker (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Thundercracker]] had written, directed and starred in the film, [[J.J. Hackensack]] described the Seeker as a "Cybertronian Orson Welles", a real triple threat. Misunderstanding, Thundercracker assumed the human was referring to [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]. {{storylink|Starscream: The Movie (comic)|Starscream: The Movie}}

==Notes==
* Apparently, Mr. Welles was tough to work with. He insisted his recording be a closed session with only the director and engineer, didn't take voice direction very well, and his first viewing of the script was on the day he came in to record his lines.
** Then again, [[Michael Bell]] joked that [[Wally Burr]] was so hard to work with that it contributed to Welles's death.
* In the interviews for its 20th anniversary release, 86 Movie director [[Nelson Shin]] claimed Welles was in incredibly poor health at the time he arrived to record his dialogue, mentioning he was so heavyset he required a wheelchair to move. Shin also detailed Welles' recordings as labored and barely usable, requiring a great deal of post-recording modification to use for Unicron's lines.
* As a long time fan of the actor, [[Maurice LaMarche]] is famous for his spot-on vocal impersonation of Welles. In the ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episodes "[[The Alien Invasion of Griffin Rock]]" and "[[Ghost in the Machine (RB)|Ghost in the Machine]]", he even parodies Welles' narration from the radio adaptation of ''[[The War of the Worlds]]''.

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000080/ Orson Welles at the Internet Movie Database]
*[http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=3587 Find-A-Grave]
*[http://vitals.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi?surname=Welles&given=Orson California Death Records]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V14PfDDwxlE Orson Welles's finest moment]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5LkDNu8bVU Orson Welles's even finer moment]

{{DEFAULTSORT:Welles, Orson}}
[[Category:English voice actors]]

Orson Welles

2021-06-12T19:27:53Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

[[Image:OrsonWellesWineCommercial2.jpg |right|300px|thumb|"What follows is a terrifying journey into the world of probate, beneficiaries and '''goblins'''!"]]

'''George Orson Welles''' ([[May 6]], [[1915]] – [[October 10]], [[1985]]), actor and director, was born in Kenosha, [[Wisconsin]] and lived a fairly eventful life, in case you hadn't heard. For starters, in [[1938]] he convinced a bunch of rubes that [[Martian]]s were invading the [[Earth]] with his ''[[The War of the Worlds]]'' radio show. On screen, Welles had a highly memorable role in ''The Muppet Movie'', where he gave Kermit the Frog his big break in [[Hollywood]]. Oh yeah, he also made some movie about {{w|Citizen Kane|some guy who wants a sled}} (''spoiler alert'').

It wasn't until [[1985]] that Mr. Welles finally fulfilled his true destiny by playing the planet-gobbling world [[Unicron]], although, sadly, Mr. Welles died before the movie was released in [[1986]].

{{quote|You know what I did this morning? I played the voice of a toy. Some terrible robot toys [[TakaraTomy|from Japan]] that changed from one thing to another. The Japanese have funded a [[The Transformers: The Movie|full-length animated cartoon]] about the doings of these toys, which is all bad outer-space stuff. I play a planet. I menace somebody called Something-or-other. Then I'm destroyed. My plan to destroy Whoever-it-is is thwarted and I tear myself apart on the screen.|Orson Welles, on his final film performance<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=KlqsYy512WIC&source=gbs_navlinks_s "Orson Wells: A Biography"] page 522</ref>}}

{{quote|The irony of [Welles] playing a planet-sized eating machine wasn't lost on anyone.|[[Michael McConnohie]]<ref>[http://cybertronchronicle.freewebspace.com/60-astrominutes/michael-mcconnohie/michael-mcconnohie-3.html Cybertron Chronicle interview with Michael McConnohie]</ref>}}

==Voice roles==
===''The Transformers: The Movie''===

*[[Unicron]]

==Fiction==
===2005 IDW continuity===
After viewing [[Starscream: The Movie (film)|''Starscream: The Movie'']] and learning that [[Thundercracker (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Thundercracker]] had written, directed and starred in the film, [[J.J. Hackensack]] described the Seeker as a "Cybertronian Orson Welles", a real triple threat. Misunderstanding, Thundercracker assumed the human was referring to [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]. {{storylink|Starscream: The Movie (comic)|Starscream: The Movie}}

==Notes==
* Apparently, Mr. Welles was tough to work with. He insisted his recording be a closed session with only the director and engineer, didn't take voice direction very well, and his first viewing of the script was on the day he came in to record his lines.
** Then again, [[Michael Bell]] joked that [[Wally Burr]] was so hard to work with that it contributed to Welles's death.
* In the interviews for its 20th anniversary release, 86 Movie director [[Nelson Shin]] claimed Welles was in incredibly poor health at the time he arrived to record his dialogue, mentioning he was so heavyset he required a wheelchair to move. Shin also detailed Welles' recordings as labored and barely usable, requiring a great deal of post-recording modification to use for Unicron's lines.
* As a long time fan of the actor, [[Maurice LaMarche]] is famous for his spot-on vocal impersonation of Welles. In the ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episodes "[[The Alien Invasion of Griffin Rock]]" and "[[Ghost in the Machine (RB)|Ghost in the Machine]]", he even parodies Welles' narration from the radio adaptation of ''[[The War of the Worlds]]''.

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000080/ Orson Welles at the Internet Movie Database]
*[http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=3587 Find-A-Grave]
*[http://vitals.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi?surname=Welles&given=Orson California Death Records]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V14PfDDwxlE Orson Welles's finest moment]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5LkDNu8bVU Orson Welles's even finer moment]

{{DEFAULTSORT:Welles, Orson}}
[[Category:English voice actors]]

Orson Welles

2021-04-24T21:50:06Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

[[Image:OrsonWellesWineCommercial2.jpg |right|300px|thumb|"What follows is a terrifying journey into the world of probate, beneficiaries and '''goblins'''!"]]

'''George Orson Welles''' ([[May 6]], [[1915]] – [[October 10]], [[1985]]), actor and director, was born in Kenosha, [[Wisconsin]] and lived a fairly eventful life, in case you hadn't heard. For starters, in [[1938]] he convinced a bunch of rubes that [[Martian]]s were invading the [[Earth]] with his ''[[The War of the Worlds]]'' radio show. On screen, Welles had a highly memorable role in ''The Muppet Movie'', where he gave Kermit the Frog his big break in [[Hollywood]]. Oh yeah, he also made some movie about {{w|Citizen Kane|some guy who wants a sled}} (''spoiler alert'').

It wasn't until [[1985]] that Mr. Welles finally fulfilled his true destiny by playing the planet-gobbling world [[Unicron]], although, sadly, Mr. Welles died before the movie was released in [[1986]].

{{quote|You know what I did this morning? I played the voice of a toy. Some terrible robot toys [[TakaraTomy|from Japan]] that changed from one thing to another. The Japanese have funded a full-length animated cartoon about the doings of these toys, which is all bad outer-space stuff. I play a planet. I menace somebody called Something-or-other. Then I'm destroyed. My plan to destroy Whoever-it-is is thwarted and I tear myself apart on the screen.|Orson Welles, on his final film performance<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=KlqsYy512WIC&source=gbs_navlinks_s "Orson Wells: A Biography"] page 522</ref>}}

{{quote|The irony of [Welles] playing a planet-sized eating machine wasn't lost on anyone.|[[Michael McConnohie]]<ref>[http://cybertronchronicle.freewebspace.com/60-astrominutes/michael-mcconnohie/michael-mcconnohie-3.html Cybertron Chronicle interview with Michael McConnohie]</ref>}}

==Voice roles==
===''The Transformers: The Movie''===

*[[Unicron]]

==Fiction==
===2005 IDW continuity===
After viewing [[Starscream: The Movie (film)|''Starscream: The Movie'']] and learning that [[Thundercracker (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Thundercracker]] had written, directed and starred in the film, [[J.J. Hackensack]] described the Seeker as a "Cybertronian Orson Welles", a real triple threat. Misunderstanding, Thundercracker assumed the human was referring to [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]. {{storylink|Starscream: The Movie (comic)|Starscream: The Movie}}

==Notes==
* Apparently, Mr. Welles was tough to work with. He insisted his recording be a closed session with only the director and engineer, didn't take voice direction very well, and his first viewing of the script was on the day he came in to record his lines.
** Then again, [[Michael Bell]] joked that [[Wally Burr]] was so hard to work with that it contributed to Welles's death.
* In the interviews for its 20th anniversary release, 86 Movie director [[Nelson Shin]] claimed Welles was in incredibly poor health at the time he arrived to record his dialogue, mentioning he was so heavyset he required a wheelchair to move. Shin also detailed Welles' recordings as labored and barely usable, requiring a great deal of post-recording modification to use for Unicron's lines.
* As a long time fan of the actor, [[Maurice LaMarche]] is famous for his spot-on vocal impersonation of Welles. In the ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episodes "[[The Alien Invasion of Griffin Rock]]" and "[[Ghost in the Machine (RB)|Ghost in the Machine]]", he even parodies Welles' narration from the radio adaptation of ''[[The War of the Worlds]]''.

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000080/ Orson Welles at the Internet Movie Database]
*[http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=3587 Find-A-Grave]
*[http://vitals.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi?surname=Welles&given=Orson California Death Records]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V14PfDDwxlE Orson Welles's finest moment]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5LkDNu8bVU Orson Welles's even finer moment]

{{DEFAULTSORT:Welles, Orson}}
[[Category:English voice actors]]

Orson Welles

2021-04-24T21:47:58Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

[[Image:OrsonWellesWineCommercial2.jpg |right|300px|thumb|"What follows is a terrifying journey into the world of probate, beneficiaries and '''goblins'''!"]]

'''George Orson Welles''' ([[May 6]], [[1915]] – [[October 10]], [[1985]]), actor and director, was born in Kenosha, [[Wisconsin]] and lived a fairly eventful life, in case you hadn't heard. For starters, in [[1938]] he convinced a bunch of rubes that [[Martian]]s were invading the [[Earth]] with his ''[[The War of the Worlds]]'' radio show. On screen, Welles had a highly memorable role in ''The Muppet Movie'', where he gave Kermit the Frog his big break in Hollywood. Oh yeah, he also made some movie about {{w|Citizen Kane|some guy who wants a sled}} (''spoiler alert'').

It wasn't until [[1985]] that Mr. Welles finally fulfilled his true destiny by playing the planet-gobbling world [[Unicron]], although, sadly, Mr. Welles died before the movie was released in [[1986]].

{{quote|You know what I did this morning? I played the voice of a toy. Some terrible robot toys [[TakaraTomy|from Japan]] that changed from one thing to another. The Japanese have funded a full-length animated cartoon about the doings of these toys, which is all bad outer-space stuff. I play a planet. I menace somebody called Something-or-other. Then I'm destroyed. My plan to destroy Whoever-it-is is thwarted and I tear myself apart on the screen.|Orson Welles, on his final film performance<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=KlqsYy512WIC&source=gbs_navlinks_s "Orson Wells: A Biography"] page 522</ref>}}

{{quote|The irony of [Welles] playing a planet-sized eating machine wasn't lost on anyone.|[[Michael McConnohie]]<ref>[http://cybertronchronicle.freewebspace.com/60-astrominutes/michael-mcconnohie/michael-mcconnohie-3.html Cybertron Chronicle interview with Michael McConnohie]</ref>}}

==Voice roles==
===''The Transformers: The Movie''===

*[[Unicron]]

==Fiction==
===2005 IDW continuity===
After viewing [[Starscream: The Movie (film)|''Starscream: The Movie'']] and learning that [[Thundercracker (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Thundercracker]] had written, directed and starred in the film, [[J.J. Hackensack]] described the Seeker as a "Cybertronian Orson Welles", a real triple threat. Misunderstanding, Thundercracker assumed the human was referring to [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]. {{storylink|Starscream: The Movie (comic)|Starscream: The Movie}}

==Notes==
* Apparently, Mr. Welles was tough to work with. He insisted his recording be a closed session with only the director and engineer, didn't take voice direction very well, and his first viewing of the script was on the day he came in to record his lines.
** Then again, [[Michael Bell]] joked that [[Wally Burr]] was so hard to work with that it contributed to Welles's death.
* In the interviews for its 20th anniversary release, 86 Movie director [[Nelson Shin]] claimed Welles was in incredibly poor health at the time he arrived to record his dialogue, mentioning he was so heavyset he required a wheelchair to move. Shin also detailed Welles' recordings as labored and barely usable, requiring a great deal of post-recording modification to use for Unicron's lines.
* As a long time fan of the actor, [[Maurice LaMarche]] is famous for his spot-on vocal impersonation of Welles. In the ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episodes "[[The Alien Invasion of Griffin Rock]]" and "[[Ghost in the Machine (RB)|Ghost in the Machine]]", he even parodies Welles' narration from the radio adaptation of ''[[The War of the Worlds]]''.

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000080/ Orson Welles at the Internet Movie Database]
*[http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=3587 Find-A-Grave]
*[http://vitals.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi?surname=Welles&given=Orson California Death Records]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V14PfDDwxlE Orson Welles's finest moment]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5LkDNu8bVU Orson Welles's even finer moment]

{{DEFAULTSORT:Welles, Orson}}
[[Category:English voice actors]]

Transformations

2016-10-27T17:44:06Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible: That's actually unnecessary. Yeah, it's the end, but it adds nothing more

{{episode|
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|prev=Upgrades
|next=
|image=Transformations MorBot floor.jpg
|title="Transformations"
|airdate=[[October 22]], [[2016]]
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]]
|animation studio=[[DHX Media]] [[Top Draw Animation]]
|writer=[[Greg Johnson]]
|director=[[Patrick Archibald]]
}}

'''The computer-generated Doctor Morocco hatches a bold new plot to defeat the Rescue Bots by becoming one of them.'''

==Synopsis==
[[File:Transformations MorBot Scrubbers.jpg|thumb|left|250px|"You fool. You understand now? I don't need your [[God]]. I've come up with my own way to have eternal life!"]]
[[Morocco virus|Morocco]] updates his memoirs with recent events. Now he has control of the [[Rescue Bot Training Center]], he's using the 3D printer to create more [[Scrubmite|Scrubbers]] which are being put to work repairing the [[GroundBridge]]. Pondering why he keeps failing against the [[Rescue Bot]]s, he realizes they all have minds, and uploads himself into the [[MorBot]] he's had rebuilt.

[[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]], [[Kade Burns|Kade]] and [[Cody Burns|Cody]] head to the Training Center by sea, and Cody manages to persuade the others to let him drive for a while. The rest of the family calls in to see when the GroundBridge is going to be up and working again. The trio arrive at the Training Center and take the lift up, only to find the Scrubbers hard at work and the Morocco Bot ready and waiting. Heatwave starts taking them out, and at Cody's suggestion, activates the base's sonic cannons to take out more of them as the trio escape. Morocco again ponders why he keeps failing, and realizes he doesn't have a plucky kid sidekick to help him with his strategy. He contacts the departing Heatwave to tell them he's decided to recruit Cody as his human partner.

[[File:Transformations Griffin Rock team.jpg|thumb|right|250px]]
Back at the fire house, the team discusses protecting Cody, and [[Anna Baranova|Professor Baranova]], in touch by comms, starts working on a way to override the hive mind patch she invented. [[Dani Burns|Dani]] and [[Blades (RB)|Blades]] start heading back to [[United States of America|America]] at high speed, thanks to a rocket booster they borrow. [[Boulder]], [[Blurr (Prime)|Blurr]], [[Chase (RB)|Chase]] and [[Graham Burns|Graham]] arrive back at Baranova's lab after a hike and are updated on current events. Baranova has a virus blocker, but since Morocco will be expecting them through the GroundBridge, Blurr is going to have to drive Baranova and the blocker across the US to the Training Center in [[Maine]].

[[Ezra Greene|Doc Greene]], [[Frankie Greene|Frankie]] and [[Servo (RB)|Servo]] arrive at the fire house to serve as reinforcements in case Morocco tries to kidnap Cody. [[Salvage (RB)|Salvage]] alerts them to the incoming danger - the MorBot and a swarm of Scrubbers are flying in over the sea. While Cody and Frankie head to the command center, the rest of the team heads to the shore. Doc checks in with Blurr and Prof. Baranova who are moving at speed across the country. The Scrubbers reach the shore and meet stiff opposition from the group, armed with foam cannons, Heatwave's sprayers and Servo's teeth. Blades and Dani arrive and shoot the MorBot with an [[electromagnetic pulse]], only to discover it's simply a [[hologram]].

[[File:Transformations Blurr Baranova GroundBridge.jpg|thumb|left|250px]]
The real Morocco is still on the mainland, attempting to intercept Blurr and Baranova. Blurr's keen to play chicken, but Baranova persuades him that stopping the Scrubbers is more important, and they quickly reach the Training Center. Though it's swarming with Scrubbers, the pair manage to fire up the GroundBridge and bring Chase's team through. The part of the team on [[Griffin Rock]] are meanwhile out of ammo, and the Scrubbers simply fly over them, so [[Charlie Burns|Chief]] contacts Cody and Frankie to get them to head to shelter. The group in the Training Center manage to plug the virus blocker into the mainframe, shutting down the system and deactivating the Scrubbers as well, however the MorBot has already escaped through the GroundBridge to Griffin Rock.

[[File:Transformations MorBot Cody and Frankie.jpg|thumb|right|250px]]
Cody and Frankie spot the falling Scrubbers, but their celebrations are cut short when Morocco bursts through the floor and grabs Cody. Emerging from the fire house, Morocco's confronted by the team returning from the beach, and when Cody attempts to interfere with the MorBot, Morocco uses a cellphone to hypnotize him. Blades hits the MorBot with an EMP, but it promptly transforms and drives off, with the team in pursuit. With Cody's help, Morocco leads them on a chase, however Frankie realizes their plan is to head for the sea and lose the team underwater. She manages to draw level and phase through the side of the MorBot, so she's taken too when it goes underwater. She attempts to reason with Cody, and uses the laser necklace Cody gave her to destroy the cellphone. Frankie and Cody phase out of the MorBot, which plunges into an undersea abyss. The pair are picked up by Heatwave and Kade.

Back at the Training Center, [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] himself gives a speech and the Rescue Bots their new assignments. Chase is going back to Griffin Rock; Boulder and Graham will build an Autobot/human community in the northwest; Blades and Dani will remain in charge of Quickshadow and High Tide in [[China]]; while Heatwave and Kade will be in charge of training new recruits. Chief makes everyone promise to come back every Sunday for Sunday dinner, and takes a photo of the whole team.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]] (2)
*[[Chase (RB)|Chase]] (8)
*[[Boulder]] (9)
*[[Blades (RB)|Blades]] (12)
*[[Quickshadow]] (13)
*[[High Tide]] (14)
*[[Blurr (Prime)|Blurr]] (15)
*[[Servo (RB)|Servo]] (17)
*[[Salvage (RB)|Salvage]] (18)
*[[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] (19)

|c3=
*[[Cody Burns]] (3)
*[[Kade Burns]] (4)
*[[Dani Burns]] (5)
*[[Graham Burns]] (6)
*[[Charlie Burns]] (7)
*[[Ezra Greene|Doc Greene]] (10)
*[[Anna Baranova|Professor Anna Baranova]] (11)
*[[Frankie Greene]] (16)
*[[CeCe Greene]] (20)
|c4=
*[[Morocco virus]] (1)
}}

==Quotes==
"In case you haven't noticed, it takes a certain level of skill and maturity to handle a boat... Witness." 
"Uh, Captain Chin-Dimple? I've been doing the steering since we left Griffin Rock. Let Cody try."
:—'''Kade''' and '''Heatwave'''

"Bye Ezra! Remember me fondly!" 
"Relax, Professor. My name's Blurr, not Crash."
:—'''Baranova''' and '''Blurr''' drive at high speed.

"Congratulations, Cody Burns! You won yourself a new set of wheels!"
:—'''Morocco''' kidnaps Cody.

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
[[File:Transformations photo.jpg|thumb|right|250px]]
*Frankie's "Rescue Girl" guise was previously seen in "[[The Griffin Rock Express]]"
*Morocco's line "Clever man, that Doctor Morocco" is a callback to "[[The Reign of Morocco]]".
*The hypnotizing cellphones were originally seen in "[[Spellbound]]".
*Optimus's in-person appearance in this episode suggests it takes place at some point after the end of the first season of ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Transformers: Robots in Disguise]]'', since prior to that, Optimus was in the [[Realm of the Primes]].
*The photo which closes the episode is a callback to "[[Family of Heroes]]" in which Chief [[:File:FamilyOfHeroes photo.jpg|takes a photo]] while telling the rest of his family that the Rescue Bots are aliens.

===Transformers references===

===Real-world references===

===Trivia===

===Animation and technical errors===

===Foreign localization===

{{epstub}}
[[Category:Rescue Bots episodes]]

Talk:Transformations

2016-10-26T21:54:58Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible: /* The end */ new section

This episode didn't come out yesterday did it? [[User:Freakertron|Freakertron]] ([[User talk:Freakertron|talk]]) 15:37, 23 October 2016 (EDT)
:Yes, it did! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 20:12, 23 October 2016 (EDT)

== The end ==

Given how the episode ends, it would suggest that this is the final episode, and given how long it's already been on the air would also suggest as much. Is there any official word that this is the final episode? -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] ([[User talk:Anythingspossibleforapossible|talk]]) 17:54, 26 October 2016 (EDT)

CeCe Greene

2016-05-24T22:01:14Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible: Removing expired spoiler tag

:''CeCe Greene is a [[human]] from the ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (franchise)|Rescue Bots]]'' portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''
[[File:NewNormal CeCe Greene.jpg|thumb|right|250px| Looks like the docs got bizz''AAYY''.]]
'''Celine "CeCe" Greene''' is the gifted daughter of [[Ezra Greene]] and [[Anna Baranova]]. Despite her young age, she is already causing trouble in the Greene household, especially for her sister [[Frankie Greene|Frankie]], and has shown the ability to reprogram devices to serve her whim.

==Fiction==
===''Rescue Bots'' cartoon===
{{voiceactor|[[Kath Soucie]] (English)}}
Frankie was unable to keep CeCe out of her room. CeCe was able to reprogram her rocking horse to have a hover mode, and was being pursued around the laboratory when [[Cody Burns|Cody]] arrived to work on a science project with Frankie. During the [[Velgrox]] invasion, CeCe was left in the care of Cody and Frankie, who accidentally woke her up with their cheering when the aliens were forced to leave [[Earth]]. {{storylink|New Normal}}

CeCe continued to steal Frankie's tech, despite her father providing her with toys of her own. After more mischief, Cody and Frankie took her for a walk, only for her to escape in her hoverstroller and use the combination from her toy to lock herself in the bank vault. She was rescued by [[Quickshadow]], and returned safely after the island's rescue team tracked the lone Rescue Bot to a nearby parking garage. {{storylink|Arrivals}}

{{DEFAULTSORT:Greene, Cece}}
[[Category:Cartoon-only characters]]
[[Category:Rescue Bots humans]]

Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)/home video

2016-05-23T14:02:27Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible: /* Shout! Factory */

{{Nav-RescueBots}}
__TOC__
In addition to the many DVD releases, Rescue Bots is also available on Amazon Instant Video, iTunes, and [[Netflix]].
==United States==
[[Shout! Factory]] releases '''''Transformers: Rescue Bots'' on DVD''' in the US. Season box sets are not scheduled to be released.

===[[Toys"R"Us]]===
*"'''2 Action-packed Episodes'''" (April [[2012]])
:Containing only the episodes "[[Family of Heroes]]" and "[[Under Pressure]]", this was available through Toys"R"Us for either $4.99 or free with any ''Rescue Bots'' toy.

===Shout! Factory===
*"'''Roll to the Rescue'''" ([[October 2]], 2012)
:Contains the episodes "[[Family of Heroes]]", "[[Under Pressure]]", "[[Hotshots]]", "[[Flobsters on Parade]]", "[[The Alien Invasion of Griffin Rock]]", and "[[Four Bots and a Baby]]".
*"'''Energize'''" ([[June 11]], [[2013]])
:Contains the episodes "[[Cody on Patrol]]", "[[Walk on the Wild Side]]", "[[Christmas in July]]", "[[Deep Trouble (RB)|Deep Trouble]]", and "[[Return of the Dino Bot|Return of the Dinobot]]".
*"'''Griffin Rock Rescue'''" ([[October 22]], 2013)
:Contains the episodes "[[The Other Doctor]]", "[[The Reign of Morocco]]", "[[Small Blessings]]", "[[The Griffin Rock Triangle]]", and "[[Rules and Regulations]]".
*"'''Heroes on the Scene'''" ([[March 18]], [[2014]])
:Contains the episodes "[[The Lost Bell]]", "[[You've Been Squilshed]]", "[[Little White Lies]]", "[[Shake Up]]", and "[[Rescue Boy]]".
*"'''Mystery Rescue'''" ([[September 2]], 2014)
:Contains the episodes "[[Countdown (RB)|Countdown]]", "[[The Haunting of Griffin Rock]]", "[[Spellbound]]", "[[Blame the Gremlins]]" and "[[Feed the Beast]]".
*"'''Jurassic Adventure'''" ([[February 10]], [[2015]])
:Contains the episodes "[[Family of Heroes]]", "[[Return of the Dino Bot|Return of the Dinobot]]", "[[What Lies Below]]", "[[What Rises Above]]"", "[[In Search of the Griffin's Nest]]" and "[[Movers and Shakers]]".
*"'''Return of the Heroes'''" ([[May 12]], [[2015]])
:Contains the episodes "[[Bumblebee to the Rescue (RB)|Bumblebee to the Rescue]]", "[[Bot to the Future]]", "[[A Virtual Disaster]]", "[[Changes]]", and "[[Rise of the Heroes]]".
*"'''Dinobots!'''" ([[August 25]], [[2015]])
:Contains the episodes "[[Land Before Prime (episode)|Land Before Prime]]", "[[Big Game]]", "[[Quarry's Quarry]]", "[[Did You See What I Thaw?]]", and "[[The Attack of Humungado]]".

<center><gallery>
File:TFRB 2 Action-packed Episodes DVD.jpg|'''2 Action-packed Episodes'''
File:TFRB Roll to the Rescue DVD.jpg|'''Roll to the Rescue'''
File:TFRB Energize DVD.jpg|'''Energize'''
File:TFRB Griffin Rock Rescue DVD.jpg|'''Griffin Rock Rescue'''
File:TFRB Heroes on the Scene DVD.jpg|'''Heroes on the Scene'''
File:TFRB Mystery Rescue DVD.jpg|'''Mystery Rescue'''
File:TFRB Jurassic Adventure DVD.jpg|'''Jurassic Adventure'''
File:TFRB Return of the Heroes DVD.jpg|'''Return of the Heroes'''
File:TFRB Dinobots DVD.jpg|'''Dinobots!'''
</gallery></center>

==Germany==
EDEL is releasing the series on DVD in Germany under their sub-label [[EDEL:kids]]. The disks feature the German dub, and the original English audio-track was added in volume 5 onwards.
*"'''Eine Familie von Helden'''" ([[August 23]], [[2013]])
:Contains the episodes "[[Family of Heroes|Eine Familie von Helden]]", "[[Under Pressure|Unter Druck]]" and "[[Hotshots|Teufelskerle]]".
*"'''Außerirdische in Griffin Rock'''" ([[August 23]], [[2013]])
:Contains the episodes "[[Flobsters on Parade|Invasion der Krustentiere]]", "[[The Alien Invasion of Griffin Rock|Außerirdische in Griffin Rock]]" and "[[Walk on the Wild Side|Ein Löwe auf Abwegen]]".
*"'''Weihnachten im Juli'''" ([[November 29]], 2013)
:Contains the episodes "[[Cody on Patrol|Cody wills wissen]]", "[[Four Bots and a Baby|Vier Bots und ein Baby]]" and "[[Christmas in July|Weihnachten im Juli]]".
*"'''Die Rückkehr des Dino Bots'''" (November 29, 2013)
:Contains the episodes "[[Deep Trouble (RB)|Ärger auf hoher See]]", "[[Return of the Dino Bot|Die Rückkehr des Dino Bots]]" and "[[The Other Doctor|Familie Burns in Bedrängnis]]".
*"'''Cody und der Bösewicht'''" ([[February 28]], 2013)
:Contains the episodes "[[The Reign of Morocco|Cody und der Bösewicht]]", "[[Small Blessings|Kleine Wohltaten]]" and "[[The Griffin Rock Triangle|Das Griffon Rock Dreieck]]".
*"'''Bumblebee eilt zu Hilfe'''" (February 28, 2013)
:Contains the episodes "[[Rules and Regulations|Der Camping-Trip]]", "[[The Lost Bell|Gestrandet]]" and "[[Bumblebee to the Rescue (RB)|Bumblebee eilt zu Hilfe]]".
<center><gallery>
File:TFRBGermanVol1.jpg|'''Eine Familie von Helden'''
File:TFRBGermanVol2.jpg|'''Außerirdische in Griffin Rock'''
File:TFRBGermanVol3.jpg|'''Weihnachten im Juli'''
File:TFRBGermanVol4.jpg|'''Die Rückkehr des Dino Bots'''
File:TFRBGermanVol5.jpg|'''Cody und der Bösewicht'''
File:TFRBGermanVol6.jpg|'''Bumblebee eilt zu Hilfe'''
</gallery></center>

==Australia and New Zealand==
Rescue Bots is released in Australasia by [[Beyond Home Entertainment]].

*"'''V1: Hot Shots'''" ([[November 13]], [[2013]])
:Contains the episodes "Family of Heroes", "Under Pressure", "Hotshots", "Flobsters on Parade" and "The Alien Invasion of Griffin Rock". The preview videos on the episode menu are swapped with those on the second DVD release.
*"'''V2: Cody on Patrol'''" ([[November 13]], [[2013]])
:Contains the episodes "Cody on Patrol", "Walk on the Wild Side", "Four Bots and a Baby", "Christmas in July", "Deep Trouble".
*"'''V3: Return of the Dino Bot'''" ([[February 19]], [[2014]])
:Contains the episodes "Return of the Dino Bot", "The Other Doctor", "The Reign of Morocco", "Small Blessings", "The Griffin Rock Triangle". The preview menus are correct this time around, but the last title is misspelled "The Griffing Rock Triangle".
*"'''V4: Bumblebee to the Rescue'''" ([[June 4]], [[2014]])
:Contains the episodes "Rules and Regulations", "The Lost Bell", "Bumblebee to the Rescue", "You've Been Squilshed", "Countdown".
*"'''V5: Bot to the Future'''" ([[January 2]], [[2015]])
:Contains the episodes "The Haunting of Griffin Rock", "Little White Lies", "Shake Up", "Rescue Boy", "It's a Bot Time", "Bot to the Future".
*"'''Complete Season 1'''" ([[March 2]], [[2015]])
:Contains season 1 in its entirety.
*"'''Season 2 V1: Serve and Protect'''" ([[March 2]], [[2015]])
:Contains the episodes "Road Trip", "Sky Forest", "One for the Ages", "Tip of the Iceberg", "Spellbound", "A Virtual Disaster", "Prescott's Bots". The DVD menu options for "Spellbound" and "A Virtual Disaster" are mixed up, and play the wrong episodes.
*"'''Season 2 V2: Space Bots'''" ([[June 3]], [[2015]])
:Contains the episodes "Blame the Gremlins", "Feed the Beast", "What Lies Below", "What Rises Above", "Space Bots", "The Island of Misfit Tech".
*"'''Season 2 V3: Bots and Robbers'''" ([[August 5]], [[2015]])
:Contains the episodes "The Vigilant Town", "Buddy System", "In Search of the Griffin's Nest", "Bots and Robbers", "Rescue Dog", "Changes"
*"'''Season 2 V4: Rise of the Heroes'''" ([[December 2]], [[2015]])
:Contains the episodes "The Riders of Midwinter", "Movers and Shakers", "Chief Woodrow", "Odd Bot Out", "The Griffin Rock Express", "Double Villainy", "Rise of the Heroes"
*"'''Season 3 V1: Land Before Prime'''" ([[April 1]], [[2016]])
:Contains the episodes "Land Before Prime", "Big Game", "Too Many Kades", "Phantom of the Sea", "Unfinished Business", "No Place Like Dome"

<center><gallery>
File:TFRB Hot Shots DVD.jpg|'''Hot Shots'''
File:TFRB Cody on Patrol DVD.jpg|'''Cody on Patrol'''
File:TFRB Return of the Dino Bot DVD.jpg|'''Return of the Dino Bot'''
File:TFRB Bumblebee to the Rescue DVD.jpg|'''Bumblebee to the Rescue'''
File:TFRB Bot to the Future DVD.jpg|'''Bot to the Future'''
File:TFRB Complete Season 1 DVD.jpg|'''Complete Season 1'''
File:TFRB Serve and Protect DVD.jpg|'''Serve and Protect'''
File:TFRB Space Bots DVD.jpg|'''Space Bots'''
</gallery></center>

[[Category:Home video]]
[[Category:Media]]
[[Category:Rescue Bots]]

Talk:CeCe Greene

2016-05-05T01:47:49Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible: Created page with "Where does "Celine" come from? And it sounds like her voice might come from Kath Soucie. -- ~~~~"

Where does "Celine" come from? And it sounds like her voice might come from [[Kath Soucie]]. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] ([[User talk:Anythingspossibleforapossible|talk]]) 21:47, 4 May 2016 (EDT)

Talk:Alex Kingston

2016-04-13T17:48:42Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

Her second ''Doctor Who'' role is kind of spoilery. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] ([[User talk:Anythingspossibleforapossible|talk]]) 05:03, 13 April 2016 (EDT)
: Spoilers, sweetie. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] ([[User talk:Hooper X|talk]]) 08:35, 13 April 2016 (EDT)
::Yeah. But I just think it's not our job to get technical over something that has nothing to with ''Transformers''. If people want it, though, they want it. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] ([[User talk:Anythingspossibleforapossible|talk]]) 13:48, 13 April 2016 (EDT)

Talk:Alex Kingston

2016-04-13T17:48:11Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

Her second ''Doctor Who'' role is kind of spoilery. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] ([[User talk:Anythingspossibleforapossible|talk]]) 05:03, 13 April 2016 (EDT)
: Spoilers, sweetie. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] ([[User talk:Hooper X|talk]]) 08:35, 13 April 2016 (EDT)
::Yeah. But I just think it's not our job to get technical over something that has nothing to with ''Transformers''. If people want it, they want it. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] ([[User talk:Anythingspossibleforapossible|talk]]) 13:48, 13 April 2016 (EDT)

Talk:Alex Kingston

2016-04-13T17:47:58Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

Her second ''Doctor Who'' role is kind of spoilery. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] ([[User talk:Anythingspossibleforapossible|talk]]) 05:03, 13 April 2016 (EDT)
: Spoilers, sweetie. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] ([[User talk:Hooper X|talk]]) 08:35, 13 April 2016 (EDT)
::Yeah. But I just think it's not a job to get technical over something that has nothing to with ''Transformers''. If people want it, they want it. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] ([[User talk:Anythingspossibleforapossible|talk]]) 13:47, 13 April 2016 (EDT)

Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)

2016-04-13T09:18:12Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible: /* Cast */

{{Nav-RescueBots}}
[[Image:Rescue Bots cartoon title screen.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Let's see the Justice League top this lineup.]]
'''''Transformers: Rescue Bots''''' is a cartoon series that launched on [[Hub Network|The Hub]] on [[December 17]], [[2011]] with a preview of the first two episodes, and the full season starting [[February 18]], [[2012]]. Unlike ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)| Prime]]'', ''Rescue Bots'' is animated in Toon Boom Harmony (similar to a Flash cartoon), and aimed at a younger generation of ''[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]'' fans. In terms of episode count, it is the second-longest ''Transformers'' cartoon, behind ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1]]''. Unusual for a ''Transformers'' cartoon, it features no [[Decepticon]]s.
On January 22, 2016, the Hasbro Studios Shorts YouTube Channel uploaded a short [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AMtaV5bcCY clip] confirming that a fourth season is coming soon

==Story==
{{bigquote|''A routine patrol with four Bots in stasis,'' ''Years later awoke in the strangest of places.'' ''Earth was their home now, and in addition,'' ''Optimus Prime gave them this mission!'' |The [[theme song]].}}

The [[Rescue Bot]]s are a team of inexperienced [[Autobot]]s primarily designed to serve as a rescue team on the battlefield. When their craft is drawn to [[Earth]], [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] judges them as not ready to face the [[Decepticon]]s, and instead stations them in the technologically advanced town of [[Griffin Rock]], [[Maine]] located on an island off the east coast of [[United States of America|America]]. There they must work undercover, posing as ordinary robots used as rescue vehicles by the island's "family of heroes", the Burns family. Team leader and team hothead [[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]] is paired with egotistical firefighter [[Kade Burns]]; rules pedant [[Chase (RB)|Chase]] is partnered with police chief [[Charlie Burns]]; nature-loving [[Boulder]] is paired with engineer [[Graham Burns]], and height-fearing [[Blades (RB)|Blades]] has hotshot pilot [[Dani Burns]] for a partner.

The Rescue Bots must learn to work together, both with each other and their [[human]] partners, to help the people of Griffin Rock. Life on the island is far from ordinary—with the town a voluntary test-bed for new and advanced technology, the rescue team regularly has to cope with disasters and mishaps caused by previously untested technology. Though the Decepticon empire has yet to touch the island, it has its own villains: the devilishly-cunning [[Thaddeus Morocco|Doctor Morocco]] makes life difficult with his [[MorBot]]s and other hostile tech; Machiavellian business owner [[Madeline Pynch]] is primarily motivated by greed, particularly for the gold she knows lies beneath the island; and the petty criminals [[Myles]] and [[Evan (RB)|Evan]] who are adept at using the town's technology to steal from the townsfolk. Occasionally when things get really tough, Optimus Prime or [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]] will visit to lend a hand.

==Cast==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
'''[[Rescue Bot]]s'''
*'''[[Rescue Force Sigma-17]]'''
**[[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]] ([[Steve Blum]])
**[[Blades (RB)|Blades]] ([[Parvesh Cheena]])
**[[Chase (RB)|Chase]] ([[D.C. Douglas]])
**[[Boulder]] ([[Imari Williams]])

*'''Rescue Force Recruits'''
**[[Salvage (RB)|Salvage]] ([[Jason Marsden]])
**[[Blurr (Prime)|Blurr]] ([[Max Mittelman]])

'''Others'''
*[[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]])
*[[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]] ([[Nicole Dubuc]])
*[[High Tide]] ([[Michael Bell]])
*[[Servo (RB)|Servo]]
*[[Quickshadow]] ([[Alex Kingston]])

|c3=
'''Burns Family'''
*[[Charlie Burns|Chief Charlie Burns]] ([[Maurice LaMarche]])
*[[Cody Burns]] ([[Elán Garfias]])
*[[Kade Burns]] ([[Jason Marsden]])
*[[Dani Burns]] ([[Lacey Chabert]])
*[[Graham Burns]] ([[Shannon McKain]])
*[[Woodrow Burns]] ([[Mark Hamill]])

'''Greene Family'''
*[[Doc Greene]] ([[LeVar Burton]])
*[[Frankie Greene]] ([[Diamond White]])
*[[Maura the Magnificent]] ([[Cree Summer]])
*[[Anna Baranova|Professor Anna Baranova]] ([[Kath Soucie]])

'''Townspeople'''
*[[Mayor Luskey]] ([[Jeff Glen Bennett|Jeff Bennett]])
*[[Huxley Prescott]] (Jeff Bennett)
*[[Harrison (RB)|Mr. Harrison]] (D.C. Douglas)
*[[Neederlander|Mrs. Neederlander]] ([[Billie Hayes]])
*[[Hayley]] ([[Danica McKellar]])
*[[Alper|Mr. Alper]] (Steve Blum)
*[[Bunty|Mr. Bunty]] (Steve Blum)
*[[Edgar Prewett]]
*[[Bufkin|Mr. Bufkin]]
*[[Perkins (RB)|Mr. Perkins]] (Steve Blum)
*[[Milo]] (Jason Marsden)
*[[Mrs Luskey]] (Nicole Dubuc)
*[[Nancy Morrison]]
*[[Sharma|Mr. Sharma]] (Parvesh Cheena)
*[[Arthur Shaw|Captain Arthur Shaw]] (Maurice LaMarche)
*[[Pfeiffer|Mr. Pfeiffer]]
*[[Wild (RB)|Captain Wild]] (Steve Blum)
*[[Taylor]] ([[Roger Craig Smith]])
*[[Carin]] ([[Nancy Linari]])
*[[Billy (RB)|Billy]] (Jason Marsden)
*[[Timmy]] (Jason Marsden)
*[[Kyle]]
*[[Corey]]
*[[George (RB)|George]]
*[[Jimmy (RB)|Jimmy]] (Jason Marsden)
*[[Hunter (RB)|Mr. Hunter]] (Maurice LaMarche)
*[[Jerry (RB)|Jerry]] (Shannon McKain)

'''Antagonists'''
*[[Thaddeus Morocco|Dr. Thaddeus Morocco]] ([[Tim Curry]]/[[Greg Ellis]])
*[[Madeline Pynch]] ([[Stacy Darrow]])
*[[Evan (RB)|Evan]] ([[Robbie Daymond]])
*[[Myles]] (Robbie Daymond)
*[[Don]]
*[[Priscilla Pynch]] ([[Katherine McNamara]])
*[[Quint Quarry|Colonel Quint Quarry]] ([[Jim Cummings]])

|c4=
'''Robots'''
*[[Trex]] (LeVar Burton)
*[[Robo-Baby]] (Jason Marsden)
*[[Dither]] (LeVar Burton)
*[[MorBot| MorBots]] (Maurice LaMarche)

'''Pets'''
*[[Mister Pettypaws]]
*[[Edison]]
*[[Aristotle]]
*[[Poopsie]]
|nonumbering=true}}

== Episodes ==
{{see|List of Rescue Bots episodes}}
===Season 1 (2011-2012)===
{{collist|2|
# [[Family of Heroes]]
# [[Under Pressure]]
# [[Hotshots]]
# [[Flobsters on Parade]]
# [[The Alien Invasion of Griffin Rock]]
# [[Walk on the Wild Side]]
# [[Cody on Patrol]]
# [[Four Bots and a Baby]]
# [[Christmas in July]]
# [[Deep Trouble (RB)|Deep Trouble]]
# [[Return of the Dino Bot]]
# [[The Other Doctor]]
# [[The Reign of Morocco]]
# [[Small Blessings]]
# [[The Griffin Rock Triangle]]
# [[Rules and Regulations]]
# [[The Lost Bell]]
# [[Bumblebee to the Rescue (RB)|Bumblebee to the Rescue]]
# [[You've Been Squilshed]]
# [[Countdown (RB)|Countdown]]
# [[The Haunting of Griffin Rock]]
# [[Little White Lies]]
# [[Shake Up]]
# [[Rescue Boy]]
# [[It's a Bot Time]]
# [[Bot to the Future]]
}}

===Season 2 (2014)===
{{collist|2|
#[[Road Trip]]
#[[Sky Forest (episode)|Sky Forest]]
#[[One for the Ages]]
#[[Tip of the Iceberg]]
#[[A Virtual Disaster]]
#[[Spellbound]]
#[[Prescott's Bots]]
#[[Blame the Gremlins]]
#[[Feed the Beast]]
#[[What Lies Below]]
#[[What Rises Above]]
#[[Space Bots]]
#[[The Island of Misfit Tech]]
#[[The Vigilant Town]]
#[[Buddy System]]
#[[In Search of the Griffin's Nest]]
#[[Bots and Robbers]]
#[[Rescue Dog]]
#[[Changes]]
#[[The Riders of Midwinter]]
#[[Movers and Shakers]]
#[[Chief Woodrow]]
#[[Odd Bot Out]]
#[[The Griffin Rock Express]]
#[[Double Villainy]]
#[[Rise of the Heroes]]
}}
===Season 3 (2014-2015)===
{{collist|2|
#[[Land Before Prime (episode)|Land Before Prime]]
#[[Big Game]]
#[[Too Many Kades]]
#[[Phantom of the Sea]]
#[[Unfinished Business]]
#[[No Place Like Dome]]
#[[Bugs in the System]]
#[[Switcheroo]]
#[[Bot-Tastic Voyage]]
#[[Quarry's Quarry]]
#[[Did You See What I Thaw?]]
#[[The Attack of Humungado]]
#[[All Bots Great and Small]]
#[[Time After Time]]
#[[Pirates Ahoy]]
#[[Turning the Tide]]
#[[The Last of Morocco]]
#[[The New Recruits]]
#[[Rescue Bots Academy]]{{dag|red}}
#[[A New Hero]]
#[[Four-Legged Hero]]
#[[Endangered Species]]
#[[More than Meets the Eye (RB)|More than Meets the Eye]]
#[[I Have Heard the Robots Singing]]
#[[Now and Then]]
#[[Today and Forever]]
}}

===Season 4 (2016)===
#[[New Normal]]
#[[Bridge Building]]
#[[Arrivals]]
#[[Plus One (RB)|Plus One]]
#[[Back to Virtual Reality]]
#[[Vanishing Returns]]

{{dag|red}} ''[[Clip show]]''

==Production==
The series was developed by [[Nicole Dubuc]], [[Brian Hohlfeld]] and [[Jeff Kline]], who work as story editor, supervising producer and executive producer respectively. Dubuc and Hohlfeld, along with [[Greg Johnson]], form the series writing team, though some of the episodes have had guest writers. Direction duties are rotated, with [[Frank Molieri]] as supervising director — [[Nathan Chew]] and [[Patrick Archibald]] were the directorial team on season 1 with [[Tim Maltby]] and [[Kevin Altieri]] replacing Archibald on season 2. Season 3 added [[Frank Squillace]] to the directing lineup. [[Ginny McSwain]] handles voice direction duties, while [[Therese Trujillo]] works as animation producer. Designers who have worked on the show include [[Shane Glines]], [[Steve Jones]], and [[Jeremy Tin]] (character designs), [[Jeremiah Regan]] (character/prop design), and [[Edgar Carlos]] (backgrounds).

So far, the show has changed animation studios every season. For the first season, the show was animated by Canadian firm [[Atomic Cartoons]] (''Johnny Test'', ''[[Spider-Man]] Unlimited'') in Toon Boom Harmony. For season two, the animation work was taken over by Malaysian firm [[Vision Animation]] with Australian firm [[Moody Street Kids]] also working on the production. For season three, Canadian firm [[DHX Media]] (''[[My Little Pony]]: Friendship is Magic'', ''Littlest Pet Shop'', ''Pound Puppies'') handled the animation, outsourcing the nitty-gritty work to [[Top Draw Animation]]. Music was provided for the first season by duo [[Starr Parodi]] and [[Jeff Eden Fair]]. For the second, Australian composer [[Christopher Elves]] took the musical reins.

==Awards and nominations==
===2016 Annie Awards===
* Best Animated Television/Broadcast Production For Preschool Children - "[[I Have Heard the Robots Singing]]"

==Home video releases==
{{main|Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)/home video}}

==Notes==
* [[Jeff Kline]] stated that ''Rescue Bots'' and ''Prime'' occupy the same continuity, and do so because he felt two ''Transformers'' shows on the same network should share the same mythology. This is why ''Rescue Bots'' takes place on an island, so that it can exist in a relatively insulated bubble from the more dangerous plot elements of the older-skewing ''Prime''.

* [[Rik Alvarez]] said in 2015 that ''Rescue Bots'' and ''Prime'' being in the same continuity was a studio decision, and not one Hasbro had expected.

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Hunter (RB human)

2016-04-13T09:15:55Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

{{Disambig3|Hunter}}
:''Mr. Hunter is a [[human]] from the ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (franchise)|Rescue Bots]]'' portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''
[[File:TheLostBell Hunter.jpg|thumb|right|150px]]
'''Mr. Hunter''' is a newspaper vendor in [[Griffin Rock]].

==Fiction==
===''Rescue Bots'' cartoon===
{{voiceactor|[[Maurice LaMarche]] (English)}}
Mr. Hunter was at the unveiling of the [[Rescue Bot]]s. {{storylink|Family of Heroes}} He watched as [[Doc Greene]] was whisked away by a helium balloon, and later attended the [[Lobster and Technology Festival]]. {{storylink|Flobsters on Parade}} When rumors of an alien invasion spread, he attempted to escape the island on the [[Griffin Rock ferry]]. {{storylink|The Alien Invasion of Griffin Rock}} He was reading at the [[Mayor Luskey Library]] when he was attacked by lemurs. {{storylink|Walk on the Wild Side}} Out walking his dog one day, he was having a chat with the [[Griffin Rock councilwoman|councilwoman]] when they were nearly hit by Doc Greene's out-of-control [[solar car]]. {{storylink|The Other Doctor}}

He was in attendance at the town's [[Founders' Day]] celebrations, {{storylink|The Lost Bell}} and was among rubberneckers at a building fire. {{storylink|Rescue Boy}} Hypnotized by a cellphone, Hunter joined in the hunt for [[Cody Burns]]. {{storylink|Spellbound}} He was at [[Griffin Rock Zoo]] when [[Nancy Morrison]] was rescued from the lion enclosure. {{storylink|Prescott's Bots}} When [[Taylor]]'s stricken plane flew over the town, he fled in panic. {{storylink|Blame the Gremlins}} He was a spectator at the launch of the ''[[Asgard]]'', {{storylink|Space Bots}} and the start of the [[Lad Pioneer]] scooter race. {{storylink|The Vigilant Town}}

Hunter was taking a run when the [[Tech Wrecker]] took out his music player. {{storylink|Bots and Robbers}} While working at his news vending business, Hunter was abruptly pulled clear by [[Noble (RB)|Noble]], moments before a runaway truck wheel flattened his news stand. {{storylink|Rescue Dog}} He also attended the [[Griffin Rock Plant A Tree Day]] and had to flee the rampaging [[Power Planter]]. {{storylink|Movers and Shakers}} He along with the rest of the town sought higher ground on [[Mount Griffin]] as the island began to sink, and cheered after the rescue team managed to save the town. {{storylink|Rise of the Heroes}} He was among the people who fled when [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] rampaged through town. {{storylink|Big Game}}

Mr. Hunter watched as army ant chewed up the statue of [[Horace Burns]], and fled from the rampaging bugs. {{Storylink|Bugs in the System}} He attended [[Bot Appreciation Week]], and panicked when the souvenir Rescue Bot toys ran amok. {{storylink|All Bots Great and Small}} He was among the people who camped out in [[Blossom Vale]] hoping to see endangered woodpeckers, and lit a fire which inadvertently ended up burning down many of the trees. {{storylink|Endangered Species}} He attended [[Maura the Magnificent]]'s magic show and her later trick at [[Griffin Falls]]. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye (RB)|More than Meets the Eye}} He was among those queuing to take part in the ''[[Griffin Rock Idol]]'' competition. {{Storylink|I Have Heard the Robots Singing}}

Mr. Hunter was part of the mob at the firehouse who wanted to put forward a suggestion for the new time capsule. He later turned up to the opening of the old time capsule and ran in panic after it was discovered it contained a dangerous quantum crystal. {{storylink|Now and Then}} He and the rest of town had to work to keep the island in the air as they flew it from the [[Arctic]] back to [[Maine]]. {{storylink|Today and Forever}}

==Notes==
*Hunter's character model is based on Canadian concept artist Cory Osterberg, a friend of character designer [[Bruce Watkinson]].[http://bighuggableteddybear.deviantart.com/art/Transformers-Rescue-Bots-Designs-Part-1-304386931]
[[Category:Cartoon-only characters]]
[[Category:Rescue Bots humans]]

Talk:Alex Kingston

2016-04-13T09:03:45Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible: Created page with "Her second ''Doctor Who'' role is kind of spoilery. -- ~~~~"

Mister Pettypaws

2016-04-13T09:01:52Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible:

:''Mister Pettypaws is a cat from the ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (franchise)|Rescue Bots]]'' portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''
[[Image:CodyOnPatrol Mister Pettypaws.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Up on a tree with [[Frank Welker|Garfield]], [[Wally Wingert|Jon Arbuckle]], [[Gregg Berger|Odie]] & [[Jason Marsden|Nermal]].]]
'''Mister Pettypaws''' is a cat owned by [[Neederlander|Mrs. Neederlander]]. He seems to have used up all nine lives and then some. He likes to climb up trees — climbing down, not so much.

==Fiction==
===''Rescue Bots'' cartoon===
During a panic caused by an alien invasion, Mister Pettypaws climbed up a tree and had to be retrieved by [[Kade Burns]] and [[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]]. He was not, as Mrs. Neederlander had assumed, abducted by aliens. {{storylink|The Alien Invasion of Griffin Rock}} Mister Pettypaws got stuck up yet another tree, and happily rubbed against [[Boulder]] when the Rescue Bot helped him down. {{storylink|Walk on the Wild Side}} He also got stuck up a tree in the park, and Mrs Neederlander had to climb up after him. {{Storylink|Cody on Patrol}}

Pettypaws startled Kade by creeping up on the team in the fog. {{storylink|Return of the Dino Bot}} The [[MorBot]] dealt with Pettypaws being up a tree by ripping the tree out of the ground and shaking it. Luckily the cat was caught by Mrs. Neederlander. {{storylink|The Reign of Morocco}} While Mister Pettypaws was napping in the park, he was eaten by a giant blob of [[Squilsh]]. Luckily it was filled with air pockets, and he survived within the Squilsh. It ejected the cat after Heatwave zapped it with electricity. {{storylink|You've Been Squilshed}}

[[Image:ShakeUp Keyboard Cat.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Daddy would you like some sausage? Daddy would you like some sausages?]]
During a ghost infestation, Mister Pettypaws sat in a tree and watched [[Elma Hendrickson]] circle below. {{storylink|The Haunting of Griffin Rock}} Mister Pettypaws decided to perch on the statue of [[Horace Burns]] during heavy rain, forcing [[Charlie Burns|Chief Burns]] to try to get him down. He eventually came down and was almost run over by Heatwave, much to Mrs. Neederlander's annoyance. {{storylink|Little White Lies}} He made a brief guest cameo in [[Frankie Greene]]'s music video, playing a keyboard. {{storylink|Shake Up}}

Pettypaws was pursued by a robot vacuum cleaner around Mrs. Neederlander's front lawn until Heatwave rescued him. {{storylink|Prescott's Bots}} Mrs. Neederlander took him with her on a nature hike with the [[Lad Pioneer]] troop. Mister Pettypaws took a great liking to [[Graham Burns]] when he was partnered with Neederlander, and climbed all over him despite his allergies. Once their [[Buddy Bracelet]]s were unlocked, Mrs. Neederlander insisted Graham say goodbye to her cat. {{storylink|Buddy System}} Mrs. Neederlander entered Pettypaws in a dog show, however before he could do his trick of jumping through a flaming hoop, the tent caught fire, and he and his owner had to be hustled out by Cody. {{storylink|Rescue Dog}} He and his human were trapped in a car by fallen lumber, and had to be rescued by the Rescue Bots. {{storylink|The Riders of Midwinter}} Chase and [[Woodrow Burns]] had to rescue Mr Pettypaws from the tree. {{storylink|Chief Woodrow}}

When a dozen or so duplicates of Mister Pettypaws occupied his favorite tree, the real Pettypaws skulked indoors until the "Pettyposers" were dealt with. {{storylink|Too Many Kades}} During a flood, he and his owner had to be rescued from a wall of water by Heatwave, though they still experienced a soaking in the process. {{storylink|Unfinished Business}} Not even [[Hurricane Opie]] could dissuade Mister Pettypaws from climbing his favorite tree, necessitating another rescue by Kade. {{storylink|No Place Like Dome}}

When Cody started experiencing repeated time, he was able to prevent Mister Pettypaws from damaging [[Harrison (RB)|Mr Harrison]]'s helipack. {{storylink|Time After Time}} Chase observed Mrs Neederlander knitting a hat for Mr Pettypaws. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye (RB)|More than Meets the Eye}} As the island was flown from the [[Arctic]] back to [[Maine]], even Mr Pettypaws helped keep it in the air by running on a treadmill to generate power. {{storylink|Today and Forever}}

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[[Category:Cats]]
[[Category:Rescue Bots characters]]

Deadlock (episode)

2013-08-27T12:05:33Z

Anythingspossibleforapossible: /* Trivia */

{{disambig2|the ''Prime'' episode|the Generation 1 Decepticon known as "Deadlock"|Drift (G1)}}
{{episode|
|otherseries=''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' ep 65
|prev=Synthesis
|next=Predacons Rising (Prime)
|image=Tfp deadlock omega lock.jpg
|caption=Take that to the secondary cargo hold. We need to make room for the Stargate.
|title="Deadlock"
|airdate=[[July 26]], [[2013]]
|written by=[[Steven Melching]]
|directed by=[[Shaunt Nigoghossian]]
|animation studio=[[Polygon Pictures]]
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]]
}}

'''The Autobots face the Decepticons for a final showdown.'''

==Synopsis==
[[File:Megatron TFPS313 standing.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Samurai are awesome, but he's not...]]
The [[Autobot]]s storm the ''[[Trypticon (WFC)|Nemesis]]'' via the outer hull, while [[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]] lets them know he's heading for the [[Omega Lock]]'s control station. As he approaches the ship, [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus]] orders [[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee]]'s team to join Ratchet while [[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]] and the [[Wrecker]]s take the bridge. Arcee asks if they should destroy the lock, but Optimus does not intend to pass up a second chance to restore [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. [[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]] has to be prompted to follow the others when he's momentarily distracted by the sight of [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] arriving on the upper deck slinging the Dark Star Saber to face Prime. The Decepticon leader uses the sword to damage Optimus's jet pack. Optimus manages to land on one of the lower spires and starts climbing up.

Telling them he has something he needs to do, Smokescreen leaves Arcee and [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]], much to Arcee's annoyance. Meanwhile, Ratchet reaches the control station and begins facing off, rather badly, against [[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]]. Arcee and Bumblebee approach the control station as well, but they're cut off by [[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]] and a bunch of Seekers who open fire on them. Elsewhere, [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] packs for a journey he might have to make. Smokescreen arrives at the warship's storage chamber and retrieves the [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]].

Ultra Magnus and his team storm the bridge; however, their attempt is cut short by [[Soundwave (WFC)|Soundwave]], who [[GroundBridge]]s them to the brig, where they're quickly surrounded. Ultra Magnus notifies everyone that his team has been delayed, which gives [[Jack Darby|Jack]] an idea. He asks [[Raf Esquivel|Raf]] to bridge him onto the ''Nemesis'' bridge as he's come up with a plan.

On the warship, Shockwave finishes pummeling Ratchet and is about to finish the Autobot off, but is interrupted by the Omega Lock signaling that it's ready to fire. As he opens the huge portal to ready the firing sequence, he spots Optimus hanging onto the Omega Lock's structure and is forced to take cover as Optimus opens fire. Megatron soon arrives to engage Optimus directly and orders Shockwave to begin the firing sequence.

Knock Out, wandering the corridors, finds himself cut off by the fighting. The bridge, meanwhile, is invaded by Jack and an [[Apex Armor (Prime)|Apex Armor]]-clad [[Miko Nakadai|Miko]]. She quickly finishes off the Vehicons onsite, but Soundwave advances on her with an open GroundBridge. Jack tells Raf to open a GroundBridge right behind Soundwave, and the conflicting bridge energies promptly transwarp Soundwave into the [[shadowzone (dimension)|shadowzone]]. As Jack and Miko head to the controls, the Omega Lock begins powering up. On its rim, Optimus and Megatron continue to battle, with Optimus knocking the Dark Star Saber from Megatron's grip and decking him. Megatron orders Shockwave to prepare to fire, but is interrupted by the ship lurching while under Jack's control.

[[File:Tfp bee down.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Cue the tears of children worldwide.]]

Down below, Smokescreen passes Arcee and Bumblebee, carrying the Star Saber into the Omega Lock control room. He attempts to throw the sword down to Optimus, only to be blasted by Shockwave. Arcee, Bumblebee, Starscream and Shockwave all run for the weapon. Arcee is forced to take out Starscream, and Bumblebee reaches the Star Saber first. He throws it up in the air, decking Shockwave and cracking his optic before grabbing the sword midair. Ratchet warns Optimus that he must use the Star Saber to destroy the Omega Lock; however, as Bumblebee jumps to pass the weapon to Optimus, he's blasted repeatedly by Megatron. As other Autobots and Decepticons watch in horror and glee, respectively, Bumblebee's optics flicker out, and he dies. He plunges lifelessly into the Omega Lock's energy field.

[[File:Tfp megatron impaled.jpg|300px|thumb|left]]
Outraged, Optimus smashes Megatron backward in a series of powerful blows, only to be knocked off the Omega Lock when Megatron recovers the Dark Star Saber and uses its wave attack to blast Optimus. As Prime clings to the side, Megatron prepares to finish the Autobot off, only to turn around in response to someone calling his name. Bumblebee runs him through with the Star Saber, and as everyone looks on in shock, Megatron dies and his body falls from the Omega Lock and plunges Earthward, burning as it enters the atmosphere. Bumblebee helps Optimus climb up as the remaining [[Decepticon]]s scramble to escape. As the Autobots reunite, they marvel at the fact that Bumblebee has his voice back, and Optimus passes on the news to Magnus's team and [[Hangar E]] that Megatron has perished. With the ship now under Autobot control, Optimus orders Magnus to set course for Cybertron. Bumblebee radios Raf to let him know to come up so he can be there for the restoration of Cybertron.

[[File:Tfp cybertron restored.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Peace.]]

As the ship passes through the [[space bridge]], Starscream and Shockwave reach the escape pods to find there's only one left. They cram into it and eject, though Starscream complains about the cramped conditions. Ratchet explains that he does not have the complete formula to synthesize cyber-matter (never having learned Shockwave's portion of it) and the current amount was intended to cyberform Earth, not the much larger Cybertron. Optimus directs the ship to the [[Well of All Sparks]], so they can revitalize Cybertron's core. The beam of energy strikes Cybertron's core, and the planet is soon restored and glowing a healthy blue. On the bridge, Knock Out admires the planet's new luster, and claims to be "joining the winning team", only to be decked by Miko. [[Predaking (Prime)|Predaking]], still clinging to the hull, looks out over Cybertron before transforming and flying off.

Back on Earth, Optimus gives a speech about how they're going to miss [[Earth]]. Fowler says the three kids will be members of [[Unit:E]], June modifying it by mentioning that they'll be in a consulting capacity only until they're of age, and Ratchet takes the opportunity to announce he's staying on Earth. Bumblebee, Bulkhead and Arcee give a tearful farewell to their respective partners, while Fowler, Magnus, Wheeljack and Smokescreen share a mutual salute. As the Autobots head through the space bridge, Optimus gives Ratchet a last goodbye, and with a final lingering look at his human companions, strides through after his team.

{{-}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]] (2)
*[[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]] (3)
*[[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] (4)
*[[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] (5)
*[[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]] (6)
*[[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee]] (7)
*[[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]] (8)
*[[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] (9)

|c2=
*[[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicons]] (1)
*[[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] (14)
*[[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]] (15)
*[[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]] (16)
*[[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] (17)
*[[Soundwave (WFC)|Soundwave]] (18)

|c3=
*[[William Fowler]] (10)
*[[Miko Nakadai]] (11)
*[[Jack Darby]] (12)
*[[Raf Esquivel]] (13)
*[[June Darby]] (20)

|h5=[[Predacon (Prime)|Predacons]]|c5=
*[[Predaking (Prime)|Predaking]] (19)
}}

==Quotes==
"Pack light. Pack light! [''Finds his rotary buffer''] Oh! Pack ''smart''!"
:—'''Knock Out''', not needing to be told that [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|cowards survive]].

"Prepare to join your scout... in the Allspark!"
:—'''Megatron's''' final words.

"You took my voice. You will never rob anyone, of ''anything'', ever again."
:—'''Bumblebee''', getting payback at last.

"I will avenge you, Master!" 
[''Shockwave grabs him''] 
"Starscream, do not be a fool!" 
[''They flee as Starscream resists''] 
"Curse you and your logic!"
:—'''Starscream''' and '''Shockwave''' debate the merits of revenge, with the former displaying an uncharacteristic level of grief over Megatron's demise.

"Bumblebee..." 
"Your voice..." 
"My voice? What're you g-...My voice!" 
[''grabs '''Ratchet''' in a great big hug''] 
"Ratchet! I have my pipes back!" 
"Errhmm, y-yes! Yes we noticed!"
:—'''Ratchet''', '''Arcee''', and '''Bumblebee''' in a crazy-happy moment. Admit it, you smiled too.

"Rrrgh, your elbow articulator is digging into my lateral flexor!" 
"Do you intend to whine for the duration of the voyage?" 
:—'''Starscream''' and '''Shockwave''' get used to being in each other's personal space. This is going to be a long trip.

"Ah, such luster." 
''[Autobots stare in disbelief]'' 
"What? I'm joining the winning team."
:—'''Knock Out''' proves once again just how self-important he really is, right before Miko shuts him up.

"Raf..." 
"I know Bee. You don't have to say anything." 
"I never did."
:—'''Raf''' and '''Bumblebee''' share their last exchange...for now.

"Until we meet again, old friend..."
:—'''Optimus Prime''' and '''Ratchet''' also share their last exchange, and in a way, to us.

==Notes==
===Animation and technical errors===
* Ultra Magnus goes into the battle using his built-in blasters, but in the next scene is lugging around the same handheld cannon he used in "[[Rebellion (Prime)|Rebellion]]".
* Even though the ship is orbiting Earth, Transformers and objects fall at a rate consistent with Earth-normal gravity outside of the ship.
* Though it makes sense that Megatron and Optimus failed to notice Bumblebee's revival, certainly the assembled Autobots and Decepticons should have, considering Bumblebee would have had to climb out of the cybermatter pool, grab the sword, then walk over to Megatron to stab him with it.
* When Jack arrives on the ''Nemesis'', Laserbeak (on Soundwave's chest) is missing its left wing.
* As Bumblebee is blasted by Megatron, the Star Saber falls with him at the same angle, apparently towards the cybermatter pool. Yet when Bumblebee falls in, the Saber clangs to the surface of the Omega Lock rather than in the pool, as its trajectory would suggest.
* Knock-Out is only feet from the Autobots when he comments on a restored Cybertron's beauty, yet no one noticed him until then?
* When Smokescreen takes a hit from Shockwave before he is able to pass the Star Saber to his leader, he falls backward onto one of the tanks and the Saber lands about roughly three feet from him. Arcee stands right in front of him in the next scene. Why then did the Autobots and Decepticons make such a long run for it when Arcee had it right there?

===Continuity notes===
* Ultra Magnus refers to Soundwave's combat GroundBridging as a "relocation trick", which he had used on Arcee in "[[Orion Pax, Part 1]]", a Predacon bone fragment in "[[Project Predacon]]", and [[Airachnid (Prime)|Airachnid]] and her [[Insecticon (Prime)|Insecticons]] in "[[Thirst]]".
* Miko previously used the Apex Armor in "[[Chain of Command (Prime)|Chain of Command]]".
* Jack, Miko, and Raf experienced the effects of crossed GroundBridges firsthand in "[[Shadowzone (episode)|Shadowzone]]".
* The [[Immobilizer]] is seen in a stasis field in the vault, thus accounting for all the weapons left on Cybertron last season.
* The Star Saber was previously seen in the Decepticon vault in "[[Prey (episode)|Prey]]". Despite not making a note of it then, that fact did not escape Smokescreen's notice.
* Bumblebee's formerly-destroyed voicebox was the result of a run-in with Megatron at [[Tyger Pax]], as explained in "[[Operation Bumblebee, Part 1]]" and the novel, ''[[Transformers: Exodus]]''.
* The Autobots fire the Omega Lock into the Well of All Sparks, last seen in flashback in "[[One Shall Rise, Part 1]]".
* This is the second time Knock Out [[Orion Pax, Part 1|has mentioned being on the "winning team"]].
* Wheeljack takes the [[lobbing]] ball with him to Cybertron. It was last seen in "Project Predacon".

===Real-world references===
* Raf refers to opening conflicting Space Bridge portals as 'crossing the streams', a term from ''Ghostbusters'' for literally touching the energy streams created by the series' signature energy backpacks. Coincidentally, this was ''also'' a technique of last resort with potentially devastating consequences. The same term was used the first time this happened.

===Trivia===
* Between solicitations for upcoming issues of the ''[[Transformers Prime: Beast Hunters (comic)|Beast Hunters'' comic]] (which revealed that Cybertron would be restored), the press release for the ''[[Predacons Rising (Prime)|Predacons Rising]]'' movie (which revealed that Megatron was going to die) and a clip shown at the ''Prime'' panel at the San Diego Comic Con and later released online (which revealed that Bumblebee would regain his voice), a well-informed Transfan had pretty much ''every'' surprise of this episode spoiled ''by official sources'' well in advance of its airing. Boo.
* Just before Megatron retrieves the Dark Star Saber from the Omega Lock to use its wave attack to push Optimus off the side, it emits a sound very similar to the [[Star Saber (Armada)|original Star Saber sword]] whenever it was activated.
* Ratchet kept saying that he wanted to go back to Cybertron, and that he wouldn't forgive Optimus for leaving him on a planet with humans. Evidently, he has grown used to them, and stays behind anyway, claiming that he's needed in Unit:E.
* While the limited cybermatter created to cyberform Earth was enough to restore Cybertron's core, the surface is still in ruins. Ratchet predicted this much would happen in the previous season, even though he was technically wrong at the time. The original Omega Lock could have restored both the surface and the core.
* Bumblebee was wearing a battle mask over his mouth for the whole series, which is revealed when he retracts it upon discovering he can speak again.
* The ''Nemesis'' appears to be airtight, or at the very least, its bridge. The humans are able to stand around in a very casual way without any form of breathing equipment.
* The Omega Lock's [[cyber-matter]] was able to fully heal Bumblebee's deadly wounds and restore his voice box, so couldn't Autobots use it to restore Ultra Magnus' hand?

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Action Heroes

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'''Action Heroes''' is a UK programming block on [[Cartoon Network]] and [[Cartoon Network TOO]] that airs shows with action/adventure genres. ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' airs on the block. It was the lead-in when it originally aired on Cartoon Network's block.

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Cartoon Network TOO

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Anythingspossibleforapossible:

'''Cartoon Network TOO''' is an offspring channel of [[Cartoon Network]] that shows ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' in the UK. Unlike other new shows that take several months (sometimes longer) to air on Cartoon Network TOO after first airing on Cartoon Network, ''Prime'' re-aired in a timely manner with the first thirteen episodes airing hours after Cartoon Network's original showing.
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==External links==

*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartoon_Network_Too Cartoon Network Too at Wikipedia]
*[http://www.cntoo.co.uk/ Cartoon Network Too's official website]

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Action Heroes

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Anythingspossibleforapossible: It's on both channels

'''Action Heroes''' is a UK programming block on [[Cartoon Network]] and [[Cartoon Network TOO]] that airs shows with action/adventure genres. ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' airs on the block. When it was the lead-in when it originally aired on Cartoon Network's block.

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