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Love Struck

2024-10-11T04:15:58Z

Arborday: /* BotBots */

{{factions|lostbots|jocksquad}}
:''Love Struck is a member of the [[Lost Bots]] from [[Transformers: BotBots (franchise)|BotBots]].

[[File:LoveStruck.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|He likes baseball bats. Bats hit. Um.]]

In the game of love, '''Love Struck''' always swings for the fences... and always strikes out. With an eye for baseball bats in particular, he's always bouncing back from his endless losing streak.

==Fiction==
===''BotBots Official Sticker Book''===
Love Struck's power was being a complete softie. {{storylink|Transformers BotBots Official Sticker Book|BotBots Official Sticker Book}}

===''Lost Bots!''===
Love Struck joined Dimlit's group of fellow Lost Bots to see if they could find where they all belonged. Love Struck and [[Kikmee]] thought the [[sports store]] might be their home and decided to meet the [[Jock Squad]]. After [[Toughdown]] tackled them, they fled not linking how rough they played. {{storylink|Lost Bots! (book)|Lost Bots!}}
{{--}}

==Toys==
===''BotBots''===
[[File:BotBots-toy LoveStruck.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{bp-bbbackpack|'''Backpack Bunch''' (5-pack, 2019)}}</ul>
:*''Series'': '''2'''
:*''Level'': '''2 Star'''

: Part of the second series of ''[[Transformers: BotBots (toyline)|BotBots]]'', Love Struck transforms from a tiny robot into a softball.

: He is available in the "Lost Bots" blindpacked portion of one of the "[[Backpack Bunch]]" themed 5-packs, packaged with [[Bogus Pocus#Toys|Bogus Pocus]], [[Hashtagz#Toys|Hashtagz]], [[Nope Soap#Toys|Nope Soap]], and [[Short Edge#Toys|Short Edge]].

: This mold was also used to make [[Dinger#Toys|Dinger]] and [[Goldstruck Out]].

{{note|This pack is a "recommended minimum buy" for a complete set of Series 2 BotBots.}}

<ul class="iconlist">{{bp-bbshed|'''Shed Heads''' (5-pack, 2019)}}</ul>
:*''Series'': '''2'''
:*''Level'': '''2 Star'''

: Love Struck is also available in one of the "[[Shed Heads]]" themed 5-packs, along with [[Bottocorrect#Toys|Bottocorrect]], [[Brotato#Toys|Brotato]], [[Drillit Yaself#Toys|Drillit Yaself]], and [[Tool Bag#Toys|Tool Bag]].

<ul class="iconlist">{{bp-bbswag|'''Swag Stylers''' (8-pack, 2019)}}</ul>
:*''Series'': '''2'''
:*''Level'': '''2 Star'''

: Love Struck is also ''also'' available in one of the "[[Swag Stylers]]" themed 8-packs, packed with [[Brock Head#Toys|Brock Head]], [[Chic Cheeks#Toys|Chic Cheeks]], [[Frizzle Fry#Toys|Frizzle Fry]], [[Grumpy Clumpy#Toys|Grumpy Clumpy]], [[Nope Soap#Toys|Nope Soap]], [[Scribby#Toys|Scribby]], and [[Songwave#Toys|Songwave]].

{{note|This pack is a "recommended minimum buy" for a complete set of Series 2 BotBots. Two strucks, two balls.}}

==Notes==
* As revealed in the ''BotBots Official Sticker Book'', Love Struck is a lost member of the [[Jock Squad]].
* Love Struck's name has been written as both "'''Love Struck'''" and "'''Lovestruck'''" in official materials. We're going with two words as that's the version used on the [[instructions]] packaged with the toy.
* While his bio says he's a softball, "love" is also a ''tennis'' term. Pity, as him being a tennis ball would have made his name ''amazing''.

[[Category:Jock Squad]] 
[[Category:Lost Bots]]

Holey Moldy

2024-10-11T04:06:38Z

Arborday: /* BotBots */

{{factions|spoiledrottens}}

:''Holey Moldy is a member of the [[Spoiled Rottens]] from [[Transformers: BotBots (franchise)|BotBots]].

[[File:HoleyMoldy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Cheese, Gromit! We'll go somewhere where there's cheese!]]

'''Holey Moldy''' is about as honest as he is fresh—which is to say that his many fibs, tall tales, and prevarications have about as many holes as his soggy, moldy body. Maybe this wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact that this smelly 'bot constantly feels the need to bend the truth... and then gets annoyed when none of his fellow BotBots actually ''believe'' his latest whopper.

==Fiction==
===''BotBots Official Sticker Book''===
Holey Moldy had the power to make up terrible lies about anything. {{storylink|Transformers BotBots Official Sticker Book|BotBots Official Sticker Book}}
{{--}}

==Toys==
===''BotBots''===
[[File:BotBots-toy HoleyMoldy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|I...think it's a bit runnier than you'll like it, sir.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{bp-bbmusic|'''Music Mob''' (5-pack, 2019)}}</ul>
:*''Series'': '''2'''
:*''Level'': '''3 Star'''

: Part of the second series of ''[[Transformers: BotBots (toyline)|BotBots]]'', Holey Moldy transforms from a tiny robot into a rotten wedge of Swiss cheese.

: He is available in one of the "[[Music Mob]]" themed 5-packs, along with [[Dumbeats#Toys|Dumbeats]], [[Scribby#Toys|Scribby]], [[Songwave#Toys|Songwave]], and the [[Lost Bots|Lost Bot]] [[Sprinkleberry Duh'Ball#Toys|Sprinkleberry Duh'Ball]].

: This mold was also used to make [[Lady Loofah#Toys|Lady Loofah]].

<ul class="iconlist">{{bp-bbshed|'''Shed Heads''' (5-pack, 2019)}}</ul>
:*''Series'': '''2'''
:*''Level'': '''3 Star'''

: Holey Moldy is also available in one of the "[[Shed Heads]]" themed 5-packs, along with [[Drillit Yaself#Toys|Drillit Yaself]], [[Lolly Mints#Toys|Lolly Mints]], [[Spots the Rock#Toys|Spots the Rock]], and the [[Lost Bots|Lost Bot]] [[Rock Swagger#Toys|Rock Swagger]].

{{note|This pack is a "recommended minimum buy" for a complete set of Series 2 BotBots.}}

[[Category: Spoiled Rottens]]

File:MTMTE24 cvrRI.jpg

2024-05-25T20:01:08Z

Arborday:

{{IDWG1cover
|description=[[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Shockwave]] tortures [[Megatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Megatron]].
{{art|lineart=[[James Raiz]]|colors=[[Josh Perez]]}}
|series=mtmte
|issueno=24
|cover=Cover A
|storytitle=Into the Abyss: Dark Cybertron Chapter 4
|year=13}}

[[Category:Images by James Raiz]]
[[Category:Images by Josh Perez]]

Riggorus

2024-04-10T03:35:52Z

Arborday:

{{factions|decepticon|decepticong2}}
:''Riggorus is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]] (via [[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]).''
[[File:TF-Masterpiece-MP-56-Riggorus.jpg|thumb|upright=2.2|Pizza Planet Delivery Shuttle. Serving your local star cluster.]]
'''Riggorus''' (リゴラス ''Rigorasu'') is a Decepticon combat surgeon.<ref>Rendered on the ''Masterpiece'' packaging in Japanese as ''yasen gun'i'' (野戦軍医)</ref> He used to be part of the strategy division, but became so fed up with the high casualty rates and incompetent planning that he switched to the under-staffed rescue division. It's an odd choice for a Decepticon, especially with the idea of valuing the lives of ''others'' (ick), but he rationalizes it as being for the greater glory of the Decepticons.

Riggorus's medical capabilities have been boosted by a mysterious upgrade stolen from the Autobots. His arms are capable of turning into a variety of tools to help his patients, and he's equipped with a forcefield so he can protect patients as he works on them in the field. He's also capable of downloading more knowledge instantly via an ability plug-in, but this comes with a severe risk to Riggorus's psychology; it might turn him... ''good''.

He's well aware of his uncanny resemblance to the Autobot known as [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]], and while they've never actually met Riggorus still holds a grudge against him, having vowed to hunt him down and destroy him.

==Fiction==
===''Masterpiece'' bios===

While on a mission to the planet Foreston, to steal more of the mysterious G2 bodies the Autobots had been developing or destroy them if they could not, Riggorus witnessed a shuttle crash nearby, containing [[Garboil (G1)|Garboil]]. As he worked on the stricken Cobalt Sentry, they inadvertently let slip about a mysterious group of "Liegemen", rogue Decepticons building [[Cybertronian (faction)|an empire]] on the fringes of known space, who the Cobalt Sentries had been providing with "recruits", a fact Megatron was being kept in the dark on. Patching Garboil up, Riggorus decided they would talk about patient-doctor confidentiality later, once the battle was won. {{storylink|#Masterpiece|''Masterpiece'' Riggorus profile}}
==Toys==
===''Masterpiece''===
*'''Riggorus''' (Masterpiece, [[2024]])
**''ID number'': '''MP-56+'''
**''Release date'': [[March 30]] 2024
**''Accessories'': 2 shoulder cannons, 2 twin-barreled guns, force barrier

: ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Riggorus is a [[redeco]] and [[retool]]ing of [[Hoist (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|MP-58 Hoist]], itself an extensive retooling of [[Trailbreaker (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|MP-56 Trailbreaker]], with the latter's camper attachment on its back, and a new head based on the [[Trailbreaker (G1)/toys#The Transformers|original Trailbreaker toy]]. Riggorus transforms into a fully-licensed Toyota 4WD Hi-Lux camper truck with an opening hood and doors, with the coloration based on the yellow ''[[Diaclone]]'' [[:File:DiacloneTrailbreaker.jpg|"4WD Hi-Lux"]] figure.

: Fitting in with the toy-based head, Riggorus comes with two double-barreled pistols which can mount over their hands, two shoulder guns, both based on the original ''Diaclone'' mold's accessories. Also included is a plastic "force barrier" effect part which pegs onto Riggorus's chest. In the proud ''Masterpiece'' tradition of packing additional cartoon accessories with redecoes, that last one is a screen-accurate reproduction of [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]]'s trademark [[force field]] ability as seen in the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]] episode "[[The Immobilizer]]," intended for use with [[Trailbreaker (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|his own ''Masterpiece'' figure]].

::*''[[Source:The Transformers: Masterpiece#MP56+|Complete translation of all story information included with ''Masterpiece'' Riggorus]]''
{{--}}

==Notes==
[[File:DiacloneTrailbreaker.jpg|thumb|upright=1.2|Surprise! I’m a Decepticon!]]
*Back in [[1982]], Takara released the ''[[Diaclone]]'' mecha toy 4WD Hi-luxe (4{{ruby|WD|ダブルディー}}ハイラックス) in three decoes. In [[1984]], Hasbro used the black version to make Generation 1 [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]]. Long afterward, the blue version would become ''Generations Selects''/''Legacy'' [[Breaker (G1)|DK-3 Breaker]] in [[2022]]. Finally in 2024, the yellow version came to fruition as ''Masterpiece'' Riggorus.
*Riggorus's name derives from "rig" and "rigorous".

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Generation 1 Decepticons]]
[[Category:Masterpiece]]
[[Category:Medics]]

Riggorus

2024-04-10T03:34:06Z

Arborday:

{{factions|decepticon|decepticong2}}
:''Riggorus is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]] (via [[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]).''
[[File:TF-Masterpiece-MP-56-Riggorus.jpg|thumb|upright=2.2|Pizza Planet Delivery Shuttle. Serving your local star cluster.]]
'''Riggorus''' (リゴラス ''Rigorasu'') is a Decepticon combat surgeon.<ref>Rendered on the ''Masterpiece'' packaging in Japanese as ''yasen gun'i'' (野戦軍医)</ref> He used to be part of the strategy division, but became so fed up with the high casualty rates and incompetent planning that he switched to the under-staffed rescue division. It's an odd choice for a Decepticon, especially with the idea of valuing the lives of ''others'' (ick), but he rationalizes it as being for the greater glory of the Decepticons.

Riggorus's medical capabilities have been boosted by an a mysterious upgrade stolen from the Autobots. His arms are capable of turning into a variety of tools to help his patients, and he's equipped with a forcefield so he can protect patients as he works on them in the field. He's also capable of downloading more knowledge instantly via an ability plug-in, but this comes with a severe risk to Riggorus's psychology; it might turn him... ''good''.

He's well aware of his uncanny resemblance to the Autobot known as [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]], and while they've never actually met Riggorus still holds a grudge against him, having vowed to hunt him down and destroy him.

==Fiction==
===''Masterpiece'' bios===

While on a mission to the planet Foreston, to steal more of the mysterious G2 bodies the Autobots had been developing or destroy them if they could not, Riggorus witnessed a shuttle crash nearby, containing [[Garboil (G1)|Garboil]]. As he worked on the stricken Cobalt Sentry, they inadvertently let slip about a mysterious group of "Liegemen", rogue Decepticons building [[Cybertronian (faction)|an empire]] on the fringes of known space, who the Cobalt Sentries had been providing with "recruits", a fact Megatron was being kept in the dark on. Patching Garboil up, Riggorus decided they would talk about patient-doctor confidentiality later, once the battle was won. {{storylink|#Masterpiece|''Masterpiece'' Riggorus profile}}
==Toys==
===''Masterpiece''===
*'''Riggorus''' (Masterpiece, [[2024]])
**''ID number'': '''MP-56+'''
**''Release date'': [[March 30]] 2024
**''Accessories'': 2 shoulder cannons, 2 twin-barreled guns, force barrier

: ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Riggorus is a [[redeco]] and [[retool]]ing of [[Hoist (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|MP-58 Hoist]], itself an extensive retooling of [[Trailbreaker (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|MP-56 Trailbreaker]], with the latter's camper attachment on its back, and a new head based on the [[Trailbreaker (G1)/toys#The Transformers|original Trailbreaker toy]]. Riggorus transforms into a fully-licensed Toyota 4WD Hi-Lux camper truck with an opening hood and doors, with the coloration based on the yellow ''[[Diaclone]]'' [[:File:DiacloneTrailbreaker.jpg|"4WD Hi-Lux"]] figure.

: Fitting in with the toy-based head, Riggorus comes with two double-barreled pistols which can mount over their hands, two shoulder guns, both based on the original ''Diaclone'' mold's accessories. Also included is a plastic "force barrier" effect part which pegs onto Riggorus's chest. In the proud ''Masterpiece'' tradition of packing additional cartoon accessories with redecoes, that last one is a screen-accurate reproduction of [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]]'s trademark [[force field]] ability as seen in the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]] episode "[[The Immobilizer]]," intended for use with [[Trailbreaker (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|his own ''Masterpiece'' figure]].

::*''[[Source:The Transformers: Masterpiece#MP56+|Complete translation of all story information included with ''Masterpiece'' Riggorus]]''
{{--}}

==Notes==
[[File:DiacloneTrailbreaker.jpg|thumb|upright=1.2|Surprise! I’m a Decepticon!]]
*Back in [[1982]], Takara released the ''[[Diaclone]]'' mecha toy 4WD Hi-luxe (4{{ruby|WD|ダブルディー}}ハイラックス) in three decoes. In [[1984]], Hasbro used the black version to make Generation 1 [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]]. Long afterward, the blue version would become ''Generations Selects''/''Legacy'' [[Breaker (G1)|DK-3 Breaker]] in [[2022]]. Finally in 2024, the yellow version came to fruition as ''Masterpiece'' Riggorus.
*Riggorus's name derives from "rig" and "rigorous".

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Generation 1 Decepticons]]
[[Category:Masterpiece]]
[[Category:Medics]]

Hardtop (ES)

2023-08-31T06:10:53Z

Arborday: /* EarthSpark cartoon */

{{factions|decepticon}}
{{disambig3|Hardtop}}
:''Hardtop is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers: EarthSpark (franchise)|EarthSpark]] [[continuity family]].''
[[File:ESHardtop.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|It took me 20 years, but it feels so good to finally be on TV!]]

'''Hardtop''' is the muscle of the two-bot crime spree he forms with his brother [[Swindle (ES)|Swindle]]. Heavily armed in both modes, he's able to run-and-gun, providing cover for the pair's various crimes.

==Fiction==
===''EarthSpark'' cartoon===
{{voiceactor|[[Nolan North]] (English)|[[Gábor Maday]] (Hungarian), [[Humberto Torres]] (Brazilian Portuguese)}}

[[File:SecretLegacy ES Hardtop armloss.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.67|#PRAYFORHARDTOP]]
Hardtop participated in the final battle of the Transformers War, where he was rammed into by [[Arcee (ES)|Arcee]].{{storylink|Warzone}} Hardtop and Swindle traveled to a trainyard in [[Witwicky (town)|Witwicky]] on a hot tip, eager to score some unguarded [[energon]]. However, the hot tip turned out to be a hot trap, set up by [[Elita-1 (ES)|Elita-1]], and the pair ended up facing both her and [[Optimus Prime (ES)|Optimus Prime]]. Elita alone proved to be more than a match for both Decepticons, boxing them both into an arena of fallen train cars, a perfect setup for Optimus to hurl a boxcar at them. Hardtop pushed his brother out of the way, taking the brunt of the blow. Swindle managed to escape (thanks to interference from a swarm of [[Arachnamech]]s), and Hardtop was taken into custody by [[G.H.O.S.T.]] agents.

As he was being transported to G.H.O.S.T. headquarters for incarceration, the convoy was attacked by another squad of Arachnamechs, and Hardtop was captured a ''second'' time. {{storylink|Secret Legacy, Part 1}} The mechs took him to the secret base of their creator, [[Mandroid|Dr. Meridian]], who promptly removed the Decepticon's right arm in order to replace his own missing limb. He then put Hardtop under mental control, turning him into a silent enforcer. Hardtop and several other captured Decepticons were then sent to cover Meridian's escape when Optimus, [[Megatron (ES)|Megatron]], [[Dot Malto]] and Elita-1 arrived to rescue his latest prisoners, the new "[[Terran]]" Transformers [[Twitch]] and [[Thrash (ES)|Thrash]]. Hardtop took multiple clumsy swings at Elita, but between the missing limb and the rudimentary mind control dulling his movements, she was able to very quickly take him down.

Following the battle, whatever Meridian had done to the Decepticons wore off, and Hardtop found himself a prisoner once again, this time of his former commander. He and the others were then taken into G.H.O.S.T. custody. {{storylink|Secret Legacy, Part 2}}

Swindle continued to look for his brother, attacking G.H.O.S.T. trucks and installations to steal gear and info in the hopes of locating Hardtop. Spotting easy suckers in Thrash and [[Mo Malto]], he was able to quickly convince them he was really a good guy just out looking for his missing brother... and while the latter half of that was true, the first part definitely wasn't. He used them to try and steal equipment from a G.H.O.S.T. truck, with Mo able to get through the Transformer-proof energon force field, though he had to drop the ruse and threaten their lives to get her to do so. The timely arrival of Dot and [[Bumblebee (ES)|Bumblebee]] foiled his plans, and Swindle had to run off empty-handed, no closer to finding Hardtop. {{storylink|House Rules}}

When the Terran [[Hashtag (ES)|Hashtag]] inadvertently deactivated the Decepticon cells, Hardtop participated in the attempted prison uprising, co-opting a woefully undersized G.H.O.S.T. rifle and being unintentionally impervious to stasis cuffs to to his missing limb. {{storylink|Hashtag: Oops}}. Hardtop once again found himself at the mercy of Mandroid when the scientist was recruited by G.H.O.S.T. director [[Karen Croft|Agent Croft]], who offered up the Decepticon prisoners under her watch as his test subjects. {{storylink|Home, Part 2}} He was still incarcerated, scraping the days of his sentence into the walls of his cell, as his brother tried to free him once more by going through the tunnels beneath the base, only for Swindle to be put away too after a fight with Optimus Prime and the Maltos.{{Storylink|Disarmed}}

After being freed by the Terrans with the other Decepticons after G.H.O.S.T. was dissolved by Mandroid, his brother and [[Soundwave (ES)|Soundwave]] rode into battle against the [[Sharkticons]] [[Razor-fin]] and [[Blitzwave]]. He, along with all the other Energon-powered bots, was killed by Mandroid and revived by [[Robby Malto|Robby]] and [[Mo Malto]]. {{storylink|The Last Hope, Part 2}}

==Toys==
===EarthSpark===
[[File: Earthspark Hardtop Arm Build-A-Figure.jpeg|thumb|"Tis but a scratch!"]]
* '''Bumblebee''' (Deluxe, 2022)
**''ID number'': '''1'''

: Hardtop's right arm is included with the ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (toyline)| EarthSpark]]'' Deluxe-class [[Bumblebee (ES)#Deluxe|Bumblebee]] toy. This piece is part of the [[Mandroid#Toys|Mandroid]] "build a figure", with the other six parts packaged with the other toys in the assortment. The arm has no articulation aside from the pivoting shoulder ball joint.
{{--}}

==Notes==
* Hardtop is based on the ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)| Cybertron]]'' Decepticon [[Hardtop (Cybertron)|Hardtop]], also a green armored buggy who had a [[Swindle (Cybertron)|Swindle]] as a brother.

[[Category:EarthSpark Decepticons]]

Karen Croft

2023-08-31T05:56:54Z

Arborday:

{{factions|ghost}}
:''Agent Croft is a [[human]] from the [[Transformers: EarthSpark (franchise)|EarthSpark]] [[continuity family]].''
[[File:AgentCroft HashtagOops.jpg|thumb|300px|Gaslight. Gatekeep. Girlboss]]
As the director of [[G.H.O.S.T.]], Executive Agent '''Karen Croft''' projects a more level-headed image in comparison to her brother, [[Jon Schloder]], but all the while going much farther than he would to when it comes to defending Earth from [[alien]] threats. In fact, Croft despises Cybertronians just as much as [[Mandroid]], perhaps even more so considering Mandroid is content with just taking down the Cybertronians on Earth. Croft, on the other hand, has far bigger plans...
==Fiction==
===''EarthSpark'' cartoon===
{{voiceactor|[[Kari Wahlgren]] (English)|[[Márcia Alves]] (Brazilian Portuguese)}}
Croft was present at the G.H.O.S.T.-[[Autobot]] alliance ceremony where she greeted the arriving [[Optimus Prime (ES)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (ES)|Megatron]] and informed them of the day's itinerary. When the Seeker pair of [[Nova Storm (ES)|Nova Storm]] and [[Skywarp (ES)|Skywarp]] attacked the ceremony, Croft aided in getting the civilians to safety. {{storylink|Age of Evolution, Part 1}}

At the mountainside base where G.H.O.S.T. kept their [[Decepticon]] prisoners, Croft performed some sort of experiment on the captured [[Skullcruncher (ES)|Skullcruncher]] that left the brutish Decepticon in a weakened state. Finding her brother to be falling short of apprehending Decepticons, Croft ordered Agent Schloder to begin a sweep of the local area to capture any rogue Decepticon, regardless of their current threat level. Following a short-lived Decepticon prisoner uprising, unknowingly caused by the young Terran [[Hashtag (ES)|Hashtag]], Croft arrived on scene to survey the damage. {{storylink|Hashtag: Oops}}

When Schloder began to believe he was on the trail of the refugee [[Bumblebee (ES)|Bumblebee]], he managed to convince the begrudging Croft to have every available G.H.O.S.T. agent on scene at a race he believed Bumblebee was participating in. When it looked like it was initially just another false alarm, Croft insisted on doing a more thorough Energon scan of the cars present, inadvertently revealing both Bumblebee and the refugee Decepticon [[Breakdown (ES)|Breakdown]]. A battle soon erupted between Breakdown and Bumblebee against G.H.O.S.T.'s forces. Croft managed to score a hit on Breakdown that incapacitated the Decepticon, but was not enough to prevent him from aiding in Bumblebee's escape. With Breakdown apprehended, Croft tried to detain [[Dot Malto|Dot]] and [[Alex Malto]] so they could be questioned on what she believed was them harboring Bumblebee but was counter-ordered by her brother. {{storylink|Security Protocols}} She later authorized the clandestine disposal of several crates of toxic waste in the forest outside [[Witwicky (town)|Witwicky]]. {{storylink|Bear Necessities}}

Later, Croft formally met and formed a partnership with the anti-Cybertronian scientist, Mandroid. Having already solved her "[[Grimlock (ES)|dino problem]]" from interfering with her underground "Bot Brawl" ring, Croft recruited Mandroid to construct more cognitive inhibitor chips for her to use, keeping the scientific recluse at bay by offering him small doses of Energon he needed as a result of his grafting Cybertronian body parts to himself. When he said he needed test subjects, Croft gladly offered up the Decepticon prisoners of G.H.O.S.T. under her ward for his picking. {{storylink|Home, Part 2}}

{{charstubfiction|{{storylink|Disarmed}}{{storylink|What Dwells Within}}{{storylink|Prime Time (episode)|Prime Time}}{{storylink|Stowed Away, Stowaways}}{{storylink|The Battle of Witwicky}}{{storylink|The Last Hope, Part 1}}}}

{{DEFAULTSORT:Croft, Karen}}
[[Category:EarthSpark humans]]
[[Category:G.H.O.S.T.]]

File:MTMTE23 cvr.jpg

2023-08-25T12:25:26Z

Arborday:

{{IDWG1cover
|description=[[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rodimus]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Optimus]] make a jump for it.
{{art|lineart=[[Casey Coller]]|colors=[[Thomas Deer]]}}
|series=mtmte
|issueno=23
|cover=Cover A
|storytitle=Black Metal: Dark Cybertron Chapter 2
|year=13}}

[[Category:Images by Casey Coller]]
[[Category:Images by Thomas Deer]]

File:MTMTE23 cvr.jpg

2023-08-25T12:25:17Z

Arborday:

{{IDWG1cover
|description=[[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rodimus]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Optimus]] make a jump for it.
{{art|lineart=[[Case Coller]]|colors=[[Thomas Deer]]}}
|series=mtmte
|issueno=23
|cover=Cover A
|storytitle=Black Metal: Dark Cybertron Chapter 2
|year=13}}

[[Category:Images by Casey Coller]]
[[Category:Images by Thomas Deer]]

Doctor Who

2023-07-24T06:23:27Z

Arborday: /* Notes */

'''''Doctor Who''''' is a [[television]] show featuring [[time travel]]. It might, just maybe, have something to do with the [[Doctor (Doctor Who)|Doctor]].

==Fiction==
===2005 IDW continuity===
[[Hunter O'Nion]] told [[Ratchet (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ratchet]] that he had plenty of TV shows to catch up on, including ''Doctor Who''. {{storylink|Our Steps Will Always Rhyme}}

===Ask Vector Prime===
[[Vector Prime]] enjoyed ''Doctor Who'', despite the show depicting time travel inaccurately. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}

===''Bumblebee'' film===
[[Memo]] had a ''Doctor Who'' poster in his room. {{storylink|Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee}}

==Notes==
*Various [[Marvel Comics|Marvel UK]] ''Transformers'' creators have written for ''Doctor Who Magazine'', itself a Marvel UK title:
**[[Simon Furman]] wrote several stories at the same time he was writing for [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|the Marvel ''Transformers'' comic]]. This included the first crossover between [[Death's Head (G1)|Death's Head]] and the Doctor, and a Death's Head story featuring ''DWM'' character Keepsake.
**[[Dan Abnett]] wrote a number of ''Magazine'' strips in the late 80s and early 90s, as well as ''The Incomplete Death's Head''.
**[[Steve Parkhouse]] and [[John Ridgway]] are famous in ''Who'' fandom for their work on the ''Magazine'', which included a long run of Sixth Doctor strips. Sleepy [[Stansham]] is not too far removed from Stockbridge, a sleepy village from Parkhouse's strips.
**[[Mike Collins]] has a lengthy, still-going association with the strip.
*The [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|UK Marvel Generation 1 comic]] featured [[Octus (G1)|Octus]], who has a [[Dalek]] alt-mode, and the [[Ghost Stories|2017 ''Transformers'' annual]] has a generic Transformer based on the character {{w|K9 (Doctor Who)|K9}}.
*The character [[Natasha Pyraniac]] from the ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' adventure [[Time-Quake]] seems to be based on / influenced by one of the Doctor's foes, {{w|The Rani (Doctor Who)|the Rani}}.
*Other ''Doctor Who'' references in ''Transformers'' include [[Skaro]], [[Trenzalore]], the [[sonic screwdriver]], and [[Verronian Warp Star]]s.
*The Ask Vector Prime [[:File:AskVectorPrimeLogo.jpg|logo]] is a parody of the ''Doctor Who'' [http://filmreviewonline.com/wp-content/gallery/doctor-who-logos/196212.jpg logo] used from 2010 to 2014.
*In a 2013 episode of ''Doctor Who'', "{{w|The Crimson Horror}}," the character Clara Oswald is shown to have a [[Galvatron (G1)/toys#The Transformers|G1 Galvatron]] figure.

==External links==
*''{{w|Doctor Who}}'' at Wikipedia

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Shockwave (ES)

2023-07-06T19:07:31Z

Arborday: /* EarthSpark */

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{{disambig3|Shockwave}}
:''Shockwave is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers: EarthSpark (franchise)|EarthSpark]] [[continuity family]].''
[[File:Shockwave-Earthspark-Stock.jpg|thumb|300px|Finally a Shockwave who's not afraid to show a little tummy.]]

Years ago, '''Shockwave''' served as one of [[Megatron (ES)|Megatron's]] top lieutenants during the [[Great War (ES)|war]]. His ambitions, however, eventually outgrew Megatron's once noble goals. To Shockwave, the weak should serve the strong, and the war necessary to enforce the glory of the [[Decepticon Empire]]. To this end, Shockwave toils away in his lab, plotting to conquer not only [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], but [[Earth]] as well. And Shockwave can back that up, possessing enough strength and firepower to go toe-to-toe with his former commander, in robot or spider tank mode. The tool he has instead of his left hand can be used to blast or ensnare other bots and probe their minds, combined with various weapons and traps he keeps up his sleeves (literally, as his left arm is covered in buttons to activate them). Only through Megatron's change of heart and defection was the mad scientist defeated.

Unlike most other Cybertronians, Shockwave finds the Earthborn [[Terran]]s abhorrent, viewing them as disgusting hybrids unworthy of being considered Transformers.

{{bigquote|The war continues so long as '''I''' stand to oppose you!|Shockwave|"[[Warzone]]"}}

==Fiction==
===''EarthSpark'' cartoon===
{{voiceactor|[[Troy Baker]] (English)|[[Sérgio Fortuna]] (Brazilian Portuguese)}}

[[File:Warzone-Shockwavealtmode.jpg|left|thumb|300px|A mobile turret on roller skates is perfectly logical.]]
Shockwave originally served under Megatron during the war against the Autobots, however he assumed a leadership role upon Megatron's defection to the Autobots sometime after the war came to Earth. Planning to use the [[AllSpark]] to bring to life a massive [[protoform]] army that would bring Cybertron and Earth under Decepticon rule, Shockwave was stopped by Megatron when the former [[Decepticon leader]] snuck behind enemy lines to steal the AllSpark and return it to Cybertron. Uninterested in Megatron's pleas for peace, Shockwave was forcibly shoved into a stasis chamber by Megatron when his back was turned. Shockwave only muttering a spiteful "traitor" jab at Megatron as he went into slumber. In the battle that followed, the AllSpark was sent through the [[Space bridge|spacebridge]] connecting Earth to Cybertron, stranding the Earth-bound Transformers on the organic world and leaving the fate of the AllSpark unknown.

Many years later, Shockwave finally awoke from his forced imprisonment when his long derelict stasis pod malfunctioned, emerging to find Megatron with a group of humans and a new Transformers species known as the [[Terran]]s. Horrified at seeing that the spacebridge was destroyed, Shockwave grabbed the young Terran, [[Thrash (ES)|Thrash]], and performed a mind scan on him to see what Megatron's interest in them was. Shockwave was disgusted to learn the Terran was a hybrid of organic and Cybertronian material, calling him and his type abominations.

Vowing the war continued so long as he lived, Shockwave battled it out with Megatron. Intending to finish off his old leader for good he initiated an overload of the old power core chambers beneath them, which would wipe the whole local area. His efforts were thwarted when the Terran [[Nightshade (ES)|Nightshade]] was able to disconnect the wiring of the power cores, with Shockwave himself getting forced, once again, into stasis lock after a shot from the [[Immobilizer]], courtesy of Megatron, while he was distracted by the human child, [[Mo Malto]]. His threat neutralized for now, the inert Shockwave was handed over to the forces of [[G.H.O.S.T.]] {{storylink|Warzone}}

==Toys==
===''EarthSpark''===
[[File:EarthSpark-Deluxe-Shockwave.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb]]
*'''Shockwave''' (Deluxe Class, [[2023]])
**Accessories: Mandroid BAF piece, arm cannon, gun, hose

:Part of the second wave of ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (toyline)|EarthSpark]]'' Deluxe Class toys, Shockwave is a redeco of his ''[[Transformers: Cyberverse (toyline)|Bumblebee Cyberverse Adventures]]'' [[Shockwave_(Cyberverse)#Deluxe_Class|Deluxe Class toy]], rendering the toy fairly inaccurate. He also lacks the [[Fire Blast effect#Cyberverse|blast effects]] and [[Maccadam]] [[Build a Figure]] piece, though he still transforms into a Cybertronian tank in 20 steps. His eye, blasters, shoulders, and shins feature 3 mm posts compatible with blast effects. The cannon, which also includes a removable hose, must be [[Partformer|removed for transformation]], revealing a normal left hand, though it lacks a wrist rotation.

:Shockwave includes an alternate Cybertronian left arm for the [[Mandroid]] Build a Figure, to replace his normal left arm, though it is inaccurately based on [[Nova Storm (ES)|Nova Storm]] instead of [[Brawl (ES)|Brawl]], as seen in "[[Home, Part 2]]".

:Hasbro stock photography (right) is mistransformed; his "pincers" from his tank mode are not folded down, making it appear as though he has spiked shoulders in robot mode. The stock photography is also inexplicably missing the panels on the sides of his waist.

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Vector Sigma

2022-08-26T18:53:17Z

Arborday:

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[[File:VectorSigmaG1.jpg|upright=2.2|thumb|A Clockwork Orange]]

'''Vector Sigma''' is an ancient and incredibly powerful super-computer that dwells at the heart of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Built to serve as a link between the [[Transformer]]s and their god [[Primus]], it is one of the fabled [[sacred implement]]s that grants access to the [[Transformer afterlife]], giving it a vast storehouse of wisdom, and the power to grant new Transformers [[spark|life]]. The computer maintains the functions of the planet while Primus sleeps within it, and frequently acts out his will to shape Cybertron's future. Multiple incarnations of Vector Sigma exist across the multiverse; in most universes, the computer typically takes the form of a faceted sphere, and is often tended by the Autobot sage, [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]].

Vector Sigma has no allegiance in the Transformers' war; it can be commanded by anyone who wields its [[Key to Vector Sigma|activation key]], which on its own has the power to convert organic substances into [[living metal|metal]]. However, centuries in the future, by the time of the [[Maximal]]s and [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]], some incarnations of Vector Sigma are known to have evolved beyond physical form into the immaterial [[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]], and now requires a "receptive spark" to access its power.

{{quote|I am Vector Sigma. Before Cybertron was, I was.|Vector Sigma upon activation|"[[The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1]]"}}

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
{{voiceactor|[[Corey Burton]] (English), [[Toshio Ishii]] (Japanese)|[[Henry Djanik]] (European French), [[Marcos Miranda]] (Brazilian Portuguese)}}

[[File:Ktvs prime and trion.jpg|left|thumb|Alpha Trion telling Optimus about the benefits of Brilliant]]

Described as the "mega-computer" which gave all Transformers life, Vector Sigma resided in a spherical chamber deep within the planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Its origins were unknown, save for the cryptic sentence it spoke upon being activated, whereupon it pronounces that before Cybertron existed, it did. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1}} No direct connection between Vector Sigma and the Transformers' creators the [[Quintesson]]s would ever be drawn, but it's not illogical to presume that the aliens must have used Vector Sigma to program their robots. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4}}

In 1985, seeking to combat the [[Autobot]]s' rule of the roads, [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] created the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]] and brought them to Cybertron with the intent of having Vector Sigma program them with true cybernetic personalities. Requiring Vector Sigma's [[Key to Vector Sigma|activation key]] to bring the computer online, he stole it from [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] and successfully completed his plan. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1}} In retaliation, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] constructed his own new team, the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], but Megatron had already returned to Earth with the key still in his clutches, leaving the Autobots unable to reactivate Vector Sigma. As a first-generation product of Vector Sigma, Alpha Trion shared the mega-computer's computation matrix, and sacrificed himself by merging his lifeforce with it. This action reactivated the computer long enough for Optimus Prime to instruct it to program the Aerialbots with life.

Shortly thereafter, it was revealed that the key possessed another power—the bizarre ability to generate an energy beam that "de-energizes" organic matter, transforming it into lifeless metal. Megatron attempted to use this power to turn Earth into a new Cybertron, but his plans were thwarted and the key destroyed. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 2}}

After draining the energies of the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to cure the [[Hate Plague]] in 2006, Optimus Prime began to suffer premonitions of some unseen future disaster. Believing that these visions were coming to pass with the Decepticons' theft of the [[Key to the Plasma Energy Chamber|key]] to the [[Plasma Energy Chamber]], {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 1}} Prime used the empty shell of the Matrix to reactivate Vector Sigma, so that he could communicate with the spirit of Alpha Trion, still living within the computer, in hopes that the old sage could provide answers. Alpha Trion indicated that the recent conflict that had erupted around the Chamber had, in fact, been engineered by Vector Sigma as a means of bringing about a new Golden Age of Cybertron. {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 2}} The plan ultimately succeeded when the chamber's energies were released, forcing Earth's sun to go supernova, only for the excess solar energy to be rerouted into Vector Sigma by [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] and the Autobots' [[Nebulan]] allies, thereby re-energizing the planet. {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 3|The Rebirth, Part 3}}

====''A Birth of Planet Saybertron''====
Vector Sigma was originally a computer built within a mere satellite. It was the result of the greatest minds of a coalition of planets coming together to assemble an instrument that would ensure peace between their civilizations. But the computer malfunctioned, and the satellite begun drawing in materials from other satellites to build itself up. Those who had built the computer tried to stop it, but found themselves unable to defeat the rapidly-evolving machine. Cybertron came to strip its galactic neighborhood of its resources, extinguishing the life of its creators. Over time, primitive machines sprung from it, eventually evolving into the Transformers. {{storylink|A Birth of Planet Saybertron}}

====Japanese cartoon continuity====
{{main|Primus#Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity}}

Vector Sigma was one identity of the multi-faceted god [[Primus]]. After his stint as [[Primacron]]'s assistant, the Oracle, Primus's essence within the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] fled to a desolate planet in the center of the galaxy which he made into a verdant world and where his form converted into the sphere later known as Vector Sigma. When the [[Quintesson]]s took over the planet, they sealed Primus within Vector Sigma and controlled it using the Key to Vector Sigma that they also used to convert the planet to a mechanical world. From Vector Sigma came the robotic Transformers, who chased their cruel masters off the planet.

Millions of years later, the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] reached Vector Sigma, who was tasked with creating more soldiers for the Autobots and the Decepticons. After Megatron stole the Key, ancient Transformer Alpha Trion was forced to give his life in activating Vector Sigma for the Autobots and the Key was destroyed shortly after. Decades later, the Matrix was sapped of energy in fighting the [[Hate Plague]], destabilizing Vector Sigma and eventually forcing Optimus Prime himself to sacrifice his life by merging with the computer to return it to normal. Soon afterwards, Vector Sigma began developing [[Cybertonuron]], which attracted the attention of Galvatron, but rival Scorponok had bombs planted in Vector Sigma's chambers that detonated and brought ruin to Cybertron.

Vector Sigma survived, and tasked the [[Disaster Relief Team]] with rebuilding the planet. It became embroiled in a plot by Unicron to take Cybertron as his new body, but Vector Sigma was able to help its children repel the invader. The computer was soon attacked again, this time by the Fallen, who sought its power of creation, but was saved by the efforts of Autobots from across space and time.

Centuries after the Great War ended, Vector Sigma hid itself under its other identity of the Oracle, and led [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]] to bring about the [[Great Transformation|reformatting of Cybertron into a technorganic world]]. This led to another renewal of Vector Sigma that appointed itself the "God of Transformers" and the ultimate authority of Cybertron. When the threat of a revived Unicron emerged tens of thousands of years later, Vector Sigma took an interest in [[Big Convoy]] and his [[Big Convoy Unit|unit]], encouraging them by speaking through its link to Big Convoy's Energon Matrix. Unicron managed to possess Vector Sigma to take control of Cybertron, but the united efforts of Maximal and Predacon vanquished Unicron's spirit. Vector Sigma would go on to support the [[Dimensional Patrol]], led by one of Vector Sigma's creations, [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Fire Convoy]].

====''Wings Universe''====
Alpha Trion used Vector Sigma to bring [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] to life. {{storylink|Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 44|''Wings Universe'' Jhiaxus bio}}

===''Beast Wars'' cartoon continuity===
====''Beast Machines'' cartoon====
{{voiceactor|[[Carol Savenkoff]] (English), [[Nobutoshi Canna]] (Japanese)|[[Emanuela Damasio]] (Italian), [[Martina Treger]] (German)}}
{{main|Oracle (BM)}}
[[File:Oracle (The Reformatting).jpg|thumb|225px|The Oracle usually appears outwardly like a ball of "outer space", but many things can be displayed on its fluid surface. A swirling mass of sparks is another common visual.]]

Three hundred years after the end of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] between the Autobots and Decepticons, Vector Sigma had evolved, transcending physical form to become the [[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]], a huge, immaterial sphere of light. It had long since fallen into legend, remembered only as the computer that predated the Cybertronian race, until it was rediscovered by [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]] and his small band of [[Maximal]]s while they were on the run from [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]], who had conquered the entire planet. To protect Primal's Maximals from the effects of the [[transformation virus]] Megatron had used to conquer Cybertron, the Oracle reformatted them into new [[technorganic]] forms {{storylink|The Reformatting}}

[[File:Vector sigma core.jpg|left|225px|thumb|A Diagnostic Drone interfaces with the Vector Sigma core, which appears very similar to the Generation 1 Vector Sigma.]]

Through the Oracle, Optimus Primal communed with the [[Transformer afterlife|Allspark]], the extradimensional source of all Transformer life to which the computer was connected, and believed that it was the will of the Allspark that Cybertron be restored to its organic beginnings. {{storylink|Survivor}} In truth, Primal was incorrect—the Oracle actually desired a ''balance'' between the organic and the technological—but it would take the disastrous unleashing of the power buried within the computer to make him realize this. When Megatron's treacherous general, [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]], discovered that Vector Sigma and the Oracle were one and the same, he used the sparkless [[Diagnostic Drone]] to circumvent the Oracle's "receptive spark" requirement, tapping into the Oracle's "Vector Sigma core" and acquiring from it the code for the mega-computer's legendary key. {{storylink|The Key}} When Optimus next attempted to contact the Oracle, he found himself unable to do so, due to Tankor's tampering. {{storylink|The Catalyst}}

Tankor proceeded to arm his [[Tank Drone]]s with the power of the Key to Vector Sigma, intending to use it to scour Cybertron of all traces of organic matter, but soon discovered that Megatron had taken control of the drones away from him. In order to trick Megatron into unleashing the key, Tankor had the Diagnostic Drone tap the Oracle once more and send Optimus Prime a false vision, guiding him to the [[Plasma Energy Chamber]]. Tankor gambled that Primal would never unleash the Chamber's descructive energy, but that the ''threat'' of it in his control would goad Megatron into activating the key. Tankor gambled wrong; after Megatron triggered the key, Optimus retaliated by unleashing the power of the chamber, and two energies violently cancelled each other out. {{storylink|End of the Line}} Primal was killed by the energy backlash and travelled to the Allspark, but chose not to join it, now understanding what the Oracle truly desired. Primal returned to reality via the Oracle, and the computer vanished. {{storylink|Fallout (episode)|Fallout}} Though, it was anomalously visible again a few times. {{storylink|A Wolf in the Fold}} {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. I: The Strike|The Strike}} {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. III: The Siege|The Siege}}

It would be some time before Primal realized it, but the Oracle had, in fact, transplanted itself into Primal's body. Megatron was first to realize this and targeted Primal, tricking him with a hologram of Optimus Prime and downloading a portion of the Oracle for himself. {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. II: The Search|The Search}} Using the power of the Oracle, Megatron attempted to merge all the sparks he had stolen from Cybertron's population with his own, but Primal's Maximals halted his scheme. {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. III: The Siege|The Siege}}

Optimus sought to consult with the Oracle one last time before his final showdown against Megatron's forces. The Oracle informed Primal that he already held the wisdom and strength of conviction to triumph and see Cybertron through to its destiny. It then relayed the strength of the sparks contained within the Matrix to give the Maximals new powers, to aid them in the upcoming confrontation. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. II: When Legends Fall|When Legends Fall}} As it would soon turn out, the Oracle had actually orchestrated this entire scenario, so that Optimus Primal and Megatron would both control a portion of its power: with its power split thusly, neither one would be able to obtain their goal without the other. It was Optimus Primal who ultimately claimed victory, driving Megatron into Cybertron's organic core and sacrificing both of them as he activated the Oracle and triggered a planet-wide reformatting of Cybertron into a technorganic paradise. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future|Seeds of the Future}}
{{--}}

====3H comics====
The Oracle was revealed to be a shell program constructed by the [[Quintesson]]s millions of years ago, in an attempt to harness the power of Vector Sigma (which the Quintesson [[Al-Badur]] described as "the ultimate physical embodiment" of Primus) and cut off its connection to the Transformers it birthed. Using the Oracle, the Quintessons allegedly fed Optimus Primal the visions and information necessary to orchestrate the technorganic reformatting of Cybertron, believing that it would leave the Cybertronians weak and disoriented, opening the planet up to an easy conquest. {{storylink|Disclosure}} In actuality, however, it was the Quintessons themselves who were being manipulated, by Primus, who used the greedy aliens to instigate this great evolutionary leap for his children. {{storylink|Wreckers: Finale Part II}}

===''Beast Wars Neo'' manga===
[[File:BWN manga Great Convoy.jpg|thumb|]]
{{charstubfiction|{{Storylink|The 5 Rookies}} {{storylink|Double Cross}}}}

===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===
Vector Sigma was the internal computer of Primus, which he used to analyze what was happening in the universe via information gained from the [[Sonic Canyons]]. {{storylink|Transformers: The Ultimate Guide}} After taking control of Cybertron, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] attempted to access Vector Sigma and download its information, but concluded that he needed the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to initiate an uplink. Capturing Optimus Prime, he forcibly removed the Matrix from the [[Prime (rank)|Autobot leader]] and initiated a complete download. {{storylink|War and Peace}} However, the information was so great that it overwhelmed Shockwave's multiple secondary computers, spilling into whatever available memory it could find, including the as yet-to-be activated [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]]. {{storylink|Transformers: Generation 1 (Dreamwave)|Generation One}}

===2001 ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon===
[[File:ForcedFusion RID vectorsigma.jpg|thumb|Is this from ''Transformers'' or ''Bubble Bobble''?]]
[[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]] was chosen by "the Allspark", Vector Sigma, to carry the [[Matrix of Leadership]] and lead the Autobots. {{storylink|Ultra Magnus: Forced Fusion!}}
{{-}}

===''Animated'' cartoon===
Although never actually seen, Vector Sigma's existence was noted by [[Yoketron (Animated)|Yoketron]]. Like the more-famous [[AllSpark]], it possessed the ability to create Transformer life, and was used to continue the growth of the Cybertronian race after the AllSpark was jettisoned into space to end the [[Great War (Animated)|Great War]]. {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The Allspark Almanac II}}

===Live-action film series===
[[File:VectorSigma-DOTM.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Yep, this is very live-action film-y looking, yessirree.]]
The great historian [[Alpha Trion (ROTF)|Alpha Trion]] preserved important datatracks from Vector Sigma, the "Cybertronian Database". Some of these datatracks told of a handful of battles on the planet [[Earth]]. {{storylink|Transformers: Cyber Missions|Cyber Missions}} Vector Sigma also, more appropriately, held records of the Transformer race's long history, its artifacts and terminology, and its most important combatants.<ref>Transformers.com's ''Dark of the Moon'' website</ref>
{{-}}

===Aligned continuity family===
====''The Covenant of Primus''====
[[File:COP-VectorSigmaAlphaTrion.jpg|thumb|right|250px|The power to destroy a planet is insignificant compared to Vector Sigma!]]
A prototype of Vector Sigma was utilized by the [[Thirteen]] to simulate battle strategies against [[Unicron/Aligned|Unicron]]. The full-scale model was created after the Chaos Bringer's defeat and before the War of the Primes. Unlike the device that would much later become the [[Matrix of Leadership]], Vector Sigma would remain unchanged over the eons.

During the [[Age of Rust]], Alpha Trion went to Vector Sigma to try and acquire the Matrix hoping to reignite the lost fire of Cybertronian society. Vector Sigma refused, saying the time was not right, but gave him the [[Badge of Vector Prime]] instead. {{storylink|Transformers: The Covenant of Primus|The Covenant of Primus}}

====Aligned novels====
Vector Sigma had become a myth. Many believed it was located within the [[Sonic Canyons]], although a few of Cybertron's elite knew it was located beneath [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]]. When the [[Decepticon]]s bombed the Sonic Canyons, they bombed the area where an entrance to Vector Sigma was said to be located, causing outrage among Cybertronians. When the Autobots left Cybertron on the ''[[Ark (WFC)|Ark]]'', [[Alpha Trion (WFC)|Alpha Trion]] opted to remain behind, believing the computer would keep him alive. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}

According to [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]], the [[Matrix of Leadership]] had been given to him by Vector Sigma. {{storylink|Transformers: Exiles|Exiles}}

Shockwave eventually found Vector Sigma and tried to use Alpha Trion as a substitute key, only to learn the ancient Prime had looped a false access code around his necrocortex. Undeterred, Shockwave began pumping [[Dark Energon]] into the computer to try and override its security despite Alpha Trion's protestations. His plans were stopped by the [[Wrecker]]s rescuing Trion, but the Prime despaired as Shockwave's experiments had attracted something [[Quintesson|monstrous]] to Cybertron. {{storylink|Transformers: Retribution|Retribution}}

====''Prime'' cartoon====
[[File:OrionPaxPart3 Vector Sigma.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|“The Wheel of Power is the key that will open the way back to the Accelerons”]]
The entrance to Vector Sigma was, unbeknownst to the [[Decepticon]]s, located beneath their capital of [[Kaon (polity)|Kaon]]. It remained there untouched throughout the [[Great War (Prime)|Great War]] until [[Jack Darby]] and [[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee]] followed the [[Key to Vector Sigma]] to it. In the chamber below the planet's surface, Jack used the Key to activate the supercomputer and began to download the contents of the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. Despite an attack of [[scraplet]]s, the download was successful, and Vector Sigma disappeared back into the depths. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 3}}
{{--}}

===2005 IDW continuity===
[[File:ChaosGalvatronVectorSigma.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|"I did it thirty-five minutes ago."]]

In the Cybertronians' creation myth, [[Guiding Hand|their gods]] went to war against one of their own, [[Mortilus|the god of death]], and the light-bringer Primus was so badly wounded that he had to merge with Cybertron itself in order to survive. He reformatted himself into Vector Sigma, the life-giving supercomputer in the core of the planet. {{storylink|Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations}} Another tale put forth the idea that Primus had fashioned Vector Sigma as his crypt in preparing for his physical demise. {{storylink|The Everlasting Voices (2): The God War|The God War}}

Whatever its true origin, Vector Sigma became the source of new Transformer life in Cybertron's early era by periodically sending out pulsewaves that ignited new [[hot spot (phenomenon)|hot spot]]s of [[spark]]s across the planet and the moons. Following the [[First Cybertronian Civil War]] however, these waves began to grow less frequent and eventually ceased, forcing [[Nova Prime]] to extract new sparks from the [[Matrix of Leadership]] instead. {{storylink|Remain in Light 3 of 5: The Divided Self|The Divided Self}}

Vector Sigma would continue to serve as Cybertron's primary source of [[energon]], and the religious myths surrounding it caused many to believe it was a miracle machine that would continue to provide them with energy forever. [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Shockwave]], on the other hand, thought the computer to be part of a system that wasn't designed to handle the sprawling metropolis Cybertron had become thanks to Nova Prime's population boost, and feared that it would eventually run dry. {{storylink|Shockwaves}} His prediction apparently came true, as Cybertron was eventually crippled by widespread energon shortage. {{storylink|The Transformers: Autocracy|Autocracy}} {{storylink|The Transformers: Monstrosity|Monstrosity}}

According to [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]], Vector Sigma was "essentially erased" when Cybertron was rendered a dead and uninhabitable world by the long war and [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]]'s rampage. {{storylink|Ironing Out the Details}}

The psychotic [[Galvatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Galvatron]], being manipulated by the [[D-Void]] through the [[Darkness (G1)|Heart of Darkness]], believed that destroying Cybertron would save the universe when, in fact, it would merge it with the [[Dead Universe]], killing all forms of life. [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Optimus Prime]] and [[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rodimus]] attempted to stop him, but were too late to prevent him from feeding the Heart of Darkness into Vector Sigma. While [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]], [[Arcee (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Arcee]], and [[Cyclonus (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Cyclonus]] fought with Galvatron, Rodimus convinced an initially reluctant Optimus that the only way to save Cybertron and the universe was to release the Matrix of Leadership inside Vector Sigma. Agreeing, Prime leapt into Vector Sigma, opening the Matrix and preventing the assault of the Dead Universe on Cybertron and the rest of the universe. {{storylink|Chaos Part Four: Genesis|Genesis}} Unexpectedly, however, this resulted in the rebirth of Cybertron itself. {{storylink|Transformers: The Death of Optimus Prime|The Death of Optimus Prime}}

Some years later, Cybertron was invaded by the [[Iron Ring]] eventually resulting in one of their number, the [[Prysmosian]] sorcerer [[Merklynn]], using the [[Talisman (G1)|Talisman]] to create the city of [[New Prysmos]] deep in Cybertron's underground. {{storylink|First Strike issue 6|First Strike #6}}

The Cybertronians eventually placed New Prysmos under quarantine with [[Breakdown (IDW)|Breakdown]] unintentionally discovering that the Talisman's energies were spreading outwards from the alien city after a portion of it had decayed his arm. Following this, [[Wheeljack (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Wheeljack]] began to examine the Talisman energy surrounding New Prysmos and found that the device itself was burrowing its way down to Vector Sigma, apparently intent on completing the terraforming process. [[Ironhide (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ironhide]] did not take this news well. {{storylink|Schismatic}}

Wheeljack eventually constructed an anti-Talisman bomb that if detonated close enough to the supercomputer could immunize it against [[magic]]. {{storylink|Desperate Measures (Transformers vs. Visionaries)|Desperate Measures}} After [[Quickswitch]] transported the bomb to Vector Sigma's antechamber, {{storylink|Good Men}} it went off at the same time as [[Galadria]]'s healing spell managing to preserve Vector Sigma while moving New Prysmos to Cybertron's surface. {{storylink|The Curtain}}

Though it was preserved, Vector Sigma was still poisoned by the Talisman's energies. While imprisoned, Shockwave revealed to [[Starscream (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Starscream]] that this had been goal, intending for Vector Sigma's consumption to poison and kill [[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]]. {{storylink|Last Stand (Unicron)|Last Stand}} When Unicron arrived at Cybertron however, he physically tore the planet in two with his robot mode, destroying Vector Sigma while leaving the Chaos Bringer unharmed. {{storylink|Road's End}}

====The Functionist Universe====

When the [[Functionist Council]] discovered [[Nova Prime]]'s stockpile of Sparks, they deemed it heretical that the [[Senate]] would try to use them. The Senate responded by sealing Vector Sigma's chamber behind a wall of [[ununtrium]]. {{storylink|Dissolution Part 3: A World Misplaced|A World Misplaced}} This was, at best, a minor inconvenience for the Functionists but they left the supercomputer alone out of fear that their [[Key to Vector Sigma|collective alternate mode]] was unnecessary to activate it. {{storylink|Dissolution Part 5: Modes of Production|Modes of Production}}

Millions of years later, the Council "discovered" that the true purpose of [[Rung (G1)|Rung's]] alternate mode was to drill through the wall and free Vector Sigma. {{storylink|Dissolution Part 3: A World Misplaced|A World Misplaced}} Fearing what the Council could do with Vector Sigma, [[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rodimus]] led a team to try and rescue Rung before they breached the chamber. The group arrived too late and were met by [[Six-of-Twelve]] whom Rodimus insulted before tackling him into Vector Sigma's chamber. His team followed and were horrified by the sight of {{storylink|Dissolution Part 4: Bad Moon Rising|Bad Moon Rising}} Six using the false Matrix as an agony beam to torture Rodimus. Using Rung as a false hostage, [[Ratchet (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ratchet]] got Rodimus freed and the group escaped back to the surface and onto the [[Cog (facility)|Cog]]. On the ship, Rung explained that once the Council learned of his ability to generate [[photonic crystal]]s, they'd tried to tap the [[Matrix of Leadership]] for Sparks but failed due to it being a fake so they instead turned to Vector Sigma to extract all the Sparks they needed to build a galaxy conquering army. {{storylink|Dissolution Part 5: Modes of Production|Modes of Production}}

After turning Cybertron itself into a cosmic engine of destruction, the planet's lack of mobility proved a hindrance to Functionist Council. To counteract this, the Council engineered Cybertron with a robot mode in [[Primus]]'s likeness, which was directed by seven of the remaining eleven councillors, all merged with Vector Sigma. {{storylink|Crucible (Part 4): The Return of the King|The Return of the King}} [[Team Rodimus]] eventually hit on a plan to exploit Vector Sigma's connection to Cybertron's [[hot spot (phenomenon)|hot spot]]s to overwhelm the supercomputer's defences and kill the councillors who had merged with it. {{storylink|Crucible (Part 5): The Unremembering|The Unremebering}} When the heroes opened twelve duplicates of the [[Matrix of Leadership]], the energies briefly overloaded Vector Sigma before the computer shunted the excess energy to the orbiting Luna 1, though not before the Functionist Council had been totally disintegrated, ending their reign. {{storylink|Crucible (Part 6): A Spark Among Embers|A Spark Among Embers}}
{{--}}

===''Transformers vs. G.I. Joe''===
After Megatron had seized the [[Matrix of Leadership]], {{storylink|Pax Megatronus}} the talisman led him to the face of [[Primus]], deep beneath Cybertron's surface. Using the Matrix, Megatron managed to pervert Vector Sigma causing the supercomputer to begin reshaping Cybertron into Megatron's likeness. {{storylink|Expelled from the Garden}}

===''Beast Wars: Uprising''===
At some point during the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]], Vector Sigma was destroyed, threatening the Cybertronian species with eventual extinction. However, [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] desired for his race to have some kind of future and made contact with the humans, who had forced the end of planet-devastating Great War. Maximus was granted the [[Energon Matrix|energon matrix]] to replace Vector Sigma, and thus the [[Maximal]]s and [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]]s were born. {{storylink|Head Games}}

===''Cyberverse'' cartoon===
[[File:Vector Sigma (Cyberverse - Megatron Is My Hero).jpg|thumb|right|Unfortunately "Shiny Ball" was confused at the time.]]
When Cybertron fell to war, Vector Sigma's chamber was seized by the [[Decepticon]]s. [[Megatron (Cyberverse)|Megatron]] intended to use the supercomputer to reprogram the [[AllSpark|Allspark]] and have it birth [[Decepticon supersoldier|whole generations of Decepticons]], delegating [[Shockwave (Cyberverse)|Shockwave]] to base himself in the computer's chamber. When the Autobots caught wind of this, [[Bumblebee (Cyberverse)|Bumblebee]] was sent down to Vector Sigma to gleam the Decepticon plan only to be chased away by [[Shockwave's drones]]. {{storylink|Megatron Is My Hero}}

Many years later, [[Starscream (Cyberverse)|Starscream]] had the [[Seeker (Cyberverse)|Seekers]] retrieve Vector Sigma from Shockwave's lab and, after obtaining the Allspark, used the relic and supercomputer to create an army of [[Scraplet]]s. {{storylink|Bring Me The Spark Of Optimus Prime}} {{storylink|Dark Birth}} [[Acid Storm (Cyberverse)|Acid Storm]] later used Vector Sigma to give Starscream complete control of the Allspark. Starscream was defeated soon afterwards and the Allspark forced out of his physical form. While the Autobots claimed the life-giving artefact, {{storylink|I Am The Allspark}} Vector Sigma was claimed by the Decepticons and brought back to Cybertron, {{storylink|Escape From Earth}} where it returned to its position within the [[Threshold of the Allspark]]. {{storylink|Battle For Cybertron II}}

When the Autobots returned to Cybertron, the battle began to shift in the Decepticons' favour, [[Windblade (Cyberverse)|Windblade]] decided that the Autobots had to destroy Vector Sigma only to find that the supercomputer was guarded by [[Bludgeon (Cyberverse)|Bludgeon]]. {{storylink|Battle For Cybertron III}} As the two dueled, [[Wheeljack (Cyberverse)|Wheeljack]] snuck in and sprayed the supercomputer with [[unspace]] goo. After Windblade kicked Bludgeon into the computer, the unspace matter took effect and destroyed Vector Sigma, undoing any chance of Megatron creating his perfect army. {{storylink|Battle For Cybertron IV}}
{{--}}

==Games==
===''Transformers Legends''===
After being brought to life by their respective factions thanks to Vector Sigma, the Aerialbots and the Stunticons fought for control of the supercomputer. Though the Autobots ultimately triumphed, the Decepticons made their escape in possession of the Key to Vector Sigma. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1 (Legends)|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1}}

==Merchandise==
===''Timelines''===
[[File:VectorSigmaBotcon07b.jpg|thumb|Long have you hunted me. Long have I eluded you.]]
*'''Vector Sigma''' ([[BotCon]] [[2007]] Souvenir Add-on)
**''Accessories'': Key, stand

:A hollow plastic Vector Sigma, packaged with a removable Circuit Key and a clear "hovering effect" display stand, was produced by the Lukis Bros of [http://www.unicron.com/ Unicron.com] as a special souvenir item offered [[exclusive]]ly at [[BotCon 2007]].

:The sphere of Vector Sigma was designed to scale with the contemporary-at-the-time ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' toys, while the slot for the key was intentionally designed to enable the ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]'' [[Safeguard (Cybertron)|Safeguard]] mold to be inserted into the sphere, allowing Safeguard to function as an alternative personal key for [[Vector Prime]] to use to access Vector Sigma himself.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10153596737309912&id=317740274911</ref>

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/VectorSigma/VectorSigma/vectorsigma.htm More information on Vector Sigma at TFU.info]''
{{-}}

===''Masterpiece''===
[[File:VectorSigmaMP10.jpg|right|thumb]]
*'''Masterpiece Optimus Prime''' ([[2014]])

:Vector Sigma came as an exclusive with the Hasbro Asia re-release of the Hasbro version of ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' MP-10 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#mp10hasbro|Optimus Prime]]. It contained a hollow plastic Vector Sigma, a removable Circuit Key and a cardboard stand.
{{-}}

===''Legacy''===
*'''A Hero is Born''' (2-pack, [[2022]])
**''Accessories'': Key, stand

:Revealed at [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2022, Vector Sigma, along with its Key, are included in a box set with Alpha Trion and Orion Pax. Vector Sigma is perched atop a removable translucent stand.
{{comingsoontoy}}
{{--}}

==Notes==
*The idea of Vector Sigma appears to have been invented by [[Flint Dille]] while spitballing potential episode concepts in February 1985, which he included in a missive sent out to potential new writers for the cartoon to illustrate the types of stories the cartoon might tell. In a brief summary for a plot he titled "Journey to the Center of Cybertron," he proposed: "The Autobots and Decepticons have to fight their way to the center of their own planet through a maze of primitive monsters to try and find the 'original program' -- the machine that made all of them."<ref>[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Dmk717ChQ_M6zqfHUy1gdCB2g58DZVKh/view "Transformers Series Update" letter] by Flint Dille, 7 February 1985, via the [https://sunbowmarvelarchive.blogspot.com/p/mp-700-transformers-part-1-1984-1985.html Sunbow and Marvel Productions Script/Storyboard Archive].</ref> In the same letter, Dille noted that the idea had grabbed him, and that he might write the episode himself; it seems likely that, very soon after this letter was sent, during the early development of ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'', Dille had this idea in mind when he put together his proposal for the film, "[[The Secret of Cybertron]]," which involved Optimus Prime travelling to the center of Cybertron to discover the origin of the Transformer race.
*But of course, "The Secret of Cybertron" was never produced, and instead, the concept ultimately wound up being brought to life by [[David Wise]], who has said at various conventions (such as [[BotCon 2009]]) that he was instructed to include the computer when writing "[[The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1|The Key to Vector Sigma]]" (probably around July/August '85). Not knowing what Vector Sigma was, he pressed [[Marvel Productions]] story editor [[Bryce Malek]], who didn't know either; when he passed the question further up the chain, he was told that it was "the computer that gave all the Transformers personalities"... to which Malek responded: "Well, it didn't do a very good job, did it!" (In recounting the story, Wise has claimed Hasbro mandated its inclusion, and that Malek contacted them, but it seems likely he was misremembering and the instruction came down from Dille at Sunbow, who by that stage, had largely taken over the writing and story direction of the series).
*Prior to the event known as the "[[Shroud]]", the many incarnations of Vector Sigma that exist in different dimensions were linked in a massive, multiversal network known as the "Vector Sigma Gestalt," each one identified as a "node" in the network. The [[Caretaker]], an independent computer designed by Vector Sigma to aid the Autobot [[Breakaway (Classics)|Breakaway]] was able to uplink to the Gestalt, identifying three particular "nodes" with a 10 digit numerical designation. {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 6}} These three universes were:

*141.207.6.661 - [[Aurex 405.0 Epsilon]], a [[Unicron Trilogy]] cartoon universe<ref>Specifically, the Unicron Trilogy universe [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]], [[Landquake (Timelines)|Landquake]], and possibly also [[Breakaway (Classics)|Breakaway]] and [[Topspin (Classics)|Topspin]] are from. Whether this is the [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] comic Unicron Trilogy, the cartoon Unicron Trilogy, or a hybrid of the two is a [[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|subject of debate]].</ref>
*585.354.3.116 - [[Primax 797.18 Epsilon]], the [[Transformers: Universe (2003 franchise)|3H Beast Era]] universe, potentially a tangent timeline to the original G1 cartoon universe<ref>The [[Caretaker]] notes that the Unicron Trilogy hub and this hub recently had "disruptions", which seems to indicate the [[Unicron Singularity]]'s effects on the Unicron Trilogy and ''Universe''. The Generation 1 cartoon universe is a universe very similar to this one, if they are not indeed the very same.</ref>
*216.333.8.616 - [[Nexus 208.0 Epsilon]], the ''[[Transformers: TransTech|TransTech]]'' universe
**The Caretaker also spoke of a "central hub" that [[Primax 207.0 Epsilon]] (the Classicsverse) was too far away from for Caretaker to function properly.
===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Vector Sigma''' (ベクターシグマ ''Bekutā Shiguma''; ベクトル・シグマ ''Bekutoru Shiguma''<ref>"The Rebirth" Japanese dub</ref>)
*''French:'' '''Victor Sigma''' (France, ''The Rebirth, Part 3'')
*''Mandarin:'' '''Mólì Shénqiú''' (魔力神球, "Magic God Ball"), '''Sigma Shǐliàng''' (西格玛矢量, "Sigma Vector")
*''Russian:'' '''Sigma-Komp'yuter''' (Сигма-Компьютер)
*''Ukrainian:'' '''Sigma-komp'yuter''' (Сигма-комп'ютер)

==References==
<references />

==See also==
*[[Primus]]
*[[Transformer afterlife]]

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User talk:Lonegamer78

2022-08-08T20:34:03Z

Arborday: /* Alternity */

==To-do list==
===[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (Comic Bun Bun)|Henkei! Henkei]] manga===
* Comparison notes on possible changes between magazine and collected edition
* Images for chapters 1, 2, 4-6
* <s>Redo chapter 5 summary (too recent for cache after crash)</s>
* <s>Work chapter 6 summary</s>
* Work chapter 7 summary
* Work chapter 8 summary
* Work chapter 9 summary
* Work chapter 10 summary
* Work chapter 11 summary
* Work chapter 12 summary
* Additional misc. interior scans (I sometimes hate 2-page spreads... T3H DETAILS!)

===[[Transformers: Galaxy Force (manga)|Galaxy Force]] manga===
Summaries and interior scans.

===[[Transformers: All Spark]] manga===
Summary and scans. (I need to either install that Adobe PS or find a Paint Shop Pro 7 somewhere.)

===Japanese affiliated episodes===
Check through episodes for:
{{collist|2|
* <s>Headmasters (1-38)</s>
* <s>Masterforce (1-47)</s>
* <s>Victory (4-44)</s>
* <s>BWII (1-43)</s>
* <s>BWN (1-35)</s>
* <s>Car Robots/RiD (24-39)</s>
* <s>Armada/Micron Legend (1-52)</s>
* <s>Energon/Super Link (21-52)</s>
* <s>Galaxy Force/Cybertron (15-52)</s>
}}

===Japanese [[Japanese themes|OP/ED themes]] and related===
*<s>Transformers Song Universe tracks</s>

{{collist|4|
*''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers''
**<s>TRANSFORMER</s>
**Peace Again
*''Transformers 2010''
**TRANSFORMER 2010
**WHAT'S YOU

*''The Headmasters''
** <s>The Headmasters</s>
**<s>Kimi wa Transformer</s>

*''Super God Masterforce''
**<s>Chōjin Masterforce no Theme</s>
**Moero! Transformer

*''Victory''
**<s>Transformer V</s>
**<s>Cybertron Banzai</s>

*''Zone''
**Transformers: Zone no Theme
**Ashita no Kimi e

*''Beast Wars''
**WAR WAR! STOP IT
**FOR THE DREAM
**Hello! Toughness

*''Beast Wars Metals''
**Tamashī no Evolution
**BA-BI-BU-BE Beast Wars
**Sen'nen no Soldier
**HALLELUYAH
**Hajimari no Uta
**Hateshinai kono (SORA) e
**Ano Yume no Kanata e
**WA! WA! Wonderland

*''Beast Wars II''
** <s>GET MY FUTURE</s>
** <s>SUPER VOYAGER</s>
** Yume no Iru Basho
** <s>SPACE DREAMER: Haruka naru Beast Wars</s>
** MY SHOOTING STAR

*''Beast Wars Neo''
**Love For Ever: Kimi wo Mamoru Tame ni
**Closing: Te no Naka no Uchū

*''Beast Wars Returns''
**Phat Planet

*''Car Robots''
**<s>Honō no Overdrive: Car Robot Cybertron</s>
**Marionette

*''Micron Legend''
**<s>Transformer-Dream Again</s>
**Never Ending Road
**<s>TRANSFORMERS: Kōtetsu no Yūki</s>
**Don't Give Up!!

*''Super Link''
**<s>Taiyō no transform!!</s>
**<s>Calling You</s>

*''Galaxy Force''
**<s>CALL YOU... Kimi to Boku no Mirai</s>
**<s>Itsumo</s>
**<s>Ignition!</s>
**<s>Growing up!</s>
}}

==Pat Lee==
You poor bastard. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:51, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
:All in the name of giving information to those that might not know. *sigh* I sorta feel ashamed, being a fellow Asian. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 10:10, 30 March 2009 (EDT)

== List of Cybertron episodes ==

No one's gotten around to making one yet! There isn't an episode list page for Robots in Disguise yet either - I keep meaning to start one. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 07:18, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
:Eh, good thing I'm already working on one for Cybertron. ;) --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 07:25, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
::They look good - thanks for doing the RiD one! Why did you remove the quotes from around the title on some of the episode pages though? They seem to be standard on the other series (G1 for instance). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 03:34, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
:::Easy enough to follow a format, after some tweaking (even if it looks a bit squished from the info). And eh, whoops on removing the quotes from the titles. ^^; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 07:34, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

==Movie Prime==
Thank you for the pic! I've been meaning to upload ROTF pics for some of the characters, and this is the one I had in mind for Prime. Thank you again.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 19:30, 6 May 2009 (EDT)
:My bad, I didn't pay much attention to the differences, been a little on edge today. Still though, the caption fits greatly.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 19:33, 6 May 2009 (EDT)
::S'cool. And how could I not on the caption? :D --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 19:44, 6 May 2009 (EDT)

== In Need of Photos ==

I slapped together a page for [[Andrew Griffith|Poly]], any chance you have a useable pic of him from your BotCon '09 collection? I had been thinking maybe a crop of that pic with him and Mowry holding the Cosmos stuff... --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 18:00, 15 June 2009 (EDT)
:That pic of him with Mowry was the only one I ever took during the con. Just be glad that it wasn't with my regular camera (bloody thing busted out on me again!). --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:17, 15 June 2009 (EDT)
::Lucky indeed, then, as that's one gorgeous shot (in more ways than one >_>). Thanks! --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 18:26, 15 June 2009 (EDT)
:::Welcome! --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:32, 15 June 2009 (EDT)

==Roger Slifer==
... you mean to tell me we were both in that ridiculously under-attended G1 writers panel at BotCon and neither of us knew the other was there? How embarrassing. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 08:37, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
: *breaks into hysterical laughter* I was the one who said all those thank-yous, with a happy David Wise when I got to "Girl Who Loved Powerglide"! --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 15:49, 21 June 2009 (EDT)

== [[Transformers: Alternity|Alternity]] ==

Hey, I noticed you've been doing a great job on the Henkei fiction articles, and wondered if you would be interested in helping get the Alternity storypages up to snuff. We've got ''From Here to Alternity'' translated, but not much else. I'll have Megatron's pack-in fiction sometime next week when my BBTS shipment arrives, so I'm willing to provide scans if you need them. Ideally, we'd like a translation to stick in the /src part of the article like we did for ''From Here to Alternity'', and I'd love your advice on how best to write up articles on such short snippets of fiction as we're getting here.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 13:30, 4 July 2009 (EDT)
:I'll consider it. On the fiction articles themselves for ''From Here to Alternity'' and ''Arch-Nemesis!'', the only thing I can suggest is just a simple summary with whatever notes/TF references present, kinda like how I wrote up for the Henkei pack-in comics. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:49, 4 July 2009 (EDT)

Bit of a random question so many years later, but something I've been wondering for a while: in the Black Convoy "Arch-Nemesis!" comic, when he says he'd rather be called "Knight of Darkness," would you happen to know if this is the same phrasing Japan uses for "The Dark Knight" in Batman media? I'm just curious if it's a particularly distinct title for fanon purposes. -- [[User:Arborday|Arborday]] ([[User talk:Arborday|talk]]) 16:34, 8 August 2022 (EDT)

== Chinese name ==

Hello. ;-D Actually, according to what I learned from the University, the spell of Chinese words differs from region. Taiwan uses <s>Han-yue Pin-yin</s> Romanization, which contains macrons and dash; while China uses <s>Romanization</s> Hanyü Pinyin, which doesn't include macrons and dash most time.

For example:

*火車 (Train)
**Taiwan - Huǒ-chē
**China - Huoche

*七 (Seven)
**Taiwan - Chi
**China - Qi

--'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 08:18, 24 August 2009 (EDT)

:Interesting. When I took Chinese during high school, we simply used Pinyin. I would like to leave the macrons and dashes in, if only for sake of posterity on pronunciation - heavens know how many ways it can be butchered. :) I grew up learning zhuyin, so it's a bit of a leap on me on using pinyin. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 08:52, 24 August 2009 (EDT)

OOps, a BIG oops, I wrote the name opposite, it always confuse people, because Taipei City use Hanyue, while other areas remain using Romanization. Jesus, I even leave a wrong note in the edit summary. I feel so guilty...

Back to the topic, as far as I know, there are at least three kind of spelling for the Chinese (more precisely, Mandarin) pronunciation: Two for Romanization and one for Hanyü Pinyin (or simply Pinyin).

For example
*至(ㄓˋ)
**Romanization (1) - Jr
**Romanization (2) - Chìh
**Hanyü Pinyin - Zhi

Honestly, the English spell for Mandarin is truly complicate, I still need to look up the spelling table to make sure the spell is right or not sometimes.

Actually, I'm amazed that there are people teach Jù-yīn/Zhuyin outside Taiwan ;-D, since it's mainly used in Taiwan. I've mentioned it to my several Chinese friends from South East Asian, Hong Kong, and China, nearly all of them did not know Jù-yīn/Zhuyin pronunciation. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 12:07, 24 August 2009 (EDT)
:Well, that's going to be fun. And in comes "clashing of what the editors learned due to different schools". :D I've gotten used to using pinyin, regardless Taiwanese or Mainland Chinese. Oy, I can't imagine when we get the Cantonese names... And I speak the language!
:Saturday morning lessons at a church, much to my annoyance as a kid on preferring the morning cartoons ("Godzilla: The Series" was airing at the time!). I rarely have the opportunity to use either zhuyin or pinyin, though. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:59, 24 August 2009 (EDT)

::Regardless of the difficulties, I'm getting a kick out of reading the Chinese names and translations. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 15:10, 24 August 2009 (EDT)

:::Just take a look at G1 Optimus and G1 Megatron's Chinese names for a sample of "weird translations", Jim. When I found Megs' Cantonese name(well, the article was covering Movie Megs but still applies), I was all "WTF?!" --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 15:15, 24 August 2009 (EDT)

::::Speaking of Cantonese name, though I can't speak Cantonese except for several common words learned from my friends or films, I know the English spelling for Cantonese is complicate, too. (At least I know there are two types of the English spelling.)
::::As for the meaning of the Chinese name, Megs' Cantonese name isn't weird enough since it is a vocal translation. The real "weird names" are those such as Optimus Prime, Meg, or Ultra Magnus' Chinese name in China (most of the people can't understand how the name came from), which is so weird that even some fans in China say they rather use nicknames or fan-made Chinese names rather than the official names. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 04:25, 25 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::True, true, and nonetheless, they still get "WTF?" reactions from this speaker. :P And probably moreso with most Western fans. Fikes, which English spelling are we going to use on Cantonese, on that note. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 07:29, 25 August 2009 (EDT)

::::::For [[Optimus Primal (BW)|some]] Cantonese names I've [[Dinobot (BW)|wrote]], they were spelled according to this [http://arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-can/cookies2.php?lang=english website] where I look up the pronunciation and English spelling. :D --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 07:38, 25 August 2009 (EDT)

:::::::Huh. I was using Yale's when I put up Megatron and Bumblebee's Cantonese pronunciations. I might be doing some really minor editing here and there, if you don't mind; e.g., [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]]'s 堡 is pronounced "bou", as "pou" would've been something else. :3 --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 15:13, 25 August 2009 (EDT)

::::::::Oh, of course not at all, and thanks for the notice. ;-D I remember when I was editing Dinobot's page, I look up the website mentioned above and find those two spelling, since I haven't watched the Cantonese dub of ''Beast Wars'' cartoon, so I don't know which is correct. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 22:12, 25 August 2009 (EDT)

== My edits ==

Any particular reason you felt the need to revert the 2 captions I made? [[User:Potty Mouth Anon|Potty Mouth Anon]] 00:28, 27 August 2009 (EDT)
:Until you've contributed substantially - and by substantially, we mean actually contributing information that no one else as had bothered to work on or found yet - THEN you can edit captions. You can't just sign up and start editing captions right off the bat. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:14, 27 August 2009 (EDT)

== Theme Songs ==
Good work on these! Nice to seem the fleshed out.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 20:05, 14 September 2009 (EDT)
:At this rate, I'll be listening to them on repeat. @.@;
:As if "TF V", "Headmasters", and "Call You" weren't already etched in my brain... --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 20:17, 14 September 2009 (EDT)

== Josh Nizzi photo ==

[[:Image:Josh_Nizzi.jpg|Did this image come from that Nizzi interview with the newspaper?]] If so, you should know that just because a picture exists does not mean we have automatic use for it (especially without copyright info), particularly when it comes to media organizations. They might sue us :p I'll stick a fair use tag there. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:40, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
:That it did. ^^;;; Except that interview has now been archived, so it requires an account to read the rest of it. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 07:09, 20 October 2009 (EDT)

== Masterforce screencap template ==

I've created one at {{tl|MFcap}}. At some point I'll have to dig out my DVDs so I can retag the whole mess of Masterforce caps which were affected by the Bookworm crash. Weeee! Not sure what to do with the BWII and Neo caps in that regard, as I don't have copies of those. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:04, 11 January 2010 (EST)
:Thanks! I can deal with the BWII and Neo caps, as I have the eps on hand (or the others that have their own copies) one of these days. If you ever get around to creating the templates for them, both were under [[TV Tokyo]], [[Nihon Ad Systems|NAS]], and [[Ashi Productions|Production Reed]]; BWII was 1998-1999, and Neo was 1999. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 20:08, 11 January 2010 (EST)

== Mudflap (ROTF) Note ==

I realize the annotation about the ice cream truck accommodating "Human Alliance" human figures is being added by an Anon-ISP contributor, but unless it's outright false, I don't see a reason to delete it. (I don't have the toy myself, so I can't verify one way or the other.)--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 15:09, 24 January 2010 (EST)
:Meh, very well. (I don't have it either.) --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 15:10, 24 January 2010 (EST)

== ROTF Game commercial ==

Would you happen to have saved the commercial that's listed on the [[Commercial/Revenge of the Fallen|ROTF commercial page]] as '''TV Commercial''' under ROTF: The Game? The video that's linked got deleted off YouTube and it doesn't seem to be anywhere else online. Since you've previously mentioned saving videos like this, I'm hoping you might have it? --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 15:04, 29 January 2010 (EST)
:Sadly, no. I know I was able to see a YouTube video's page via Google cache. Obviously, can't play the video but at least I was able to see the stats and who uploaded the vid. I can't seem to check the cache for the commercial you're talking about, so I'm at a loss, sadly. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 20:59, 29 January 2010 (EST)
::WOOT! I got it! I finally figured out how to add the video to my playlist so I could read the description. Much to my great joy, said description indicated the video could be found at gameads.gamepressure.com. The funny thing is, I could have had this much sooner had I thought to Google how to run Javascript from a web browser. I failed in getting it work earlier, and thought the structure of YouTube's commands was to blame. Thank you for trying to help me out earlier.
::In case it might be helpful to you, here's the command (and prefix for the browser to see it as Javascript) for adding a video to your playlist:

::<nowiki> Javascript:yt.www.watch.playlists.add('yr5UtgsUK9Y');</nowiki>

::This needs to be run when you're at the page for an active video. After you run the command, you still pick the playlist and click 'Add' as normal. And obviously you'll want to substitute in the video ID of the deleted video. The one drawback is that seeing who uploaded the video is only possible by going to the URL of the playlist (None of the views through your account will show that info for some reason). --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 02:02, 5 February 2010 (EST)
:::Durh... Step by step, please? I've never really worked with Java. ^^;; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 04:04, 5 February 2010 (EST)
::::Certainly.
::::Step 1: Log into your account. (Probably didn't need to mentioned but just so we're clear about the pre-existing conditions)
::::Step 2: Go to an active video. So for instance, you could go [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crn_8VIxaOk here.]
::::Step 3: In the address bar of your browser, type or copy and paste <nowiki> "Javascript:yt.www.watch.playlists.add('NRWOJWKYrLg');"</nowiki> minus the double quotes. The text inside the single quotes is the ID of the deleted video. The ID of a YouTube video is the sequence of characters following 'v=' but before an ampersand (if present) in a YouTube URL. So if the URL is <nowiki>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crn_8VIxaOk&feature=PlayList</nowiki> then the video ID would be Crn_8VIxaOk. For the example in the double quotes I used the ID of a deleted Transformers commercial.
::::Step 4: Look at the grey box area underneath the video where the 'Add to Favorites' and 'Add to Playlist' are found. You will see that a drop down box has appeared allowing you to choose one of your playlists to add the deleted video to, same as if the video wasn't deleted and you clicked 'Add to Playlist' while looking at the video. Note that nothing on the page will change other than the drop down box and 'Add' button appearing. Choose your playlist (or '[New Playlist]' if you don't already have one) and click the Add button.
::::Step 5: The video is now in your playlist. To get the URL for your playlist, look at your playlist(s) through your account options (hover over your name in the upper right hand corner of a YouTube page and select the 'Playlist' option or go to <nowiki>www.youtube.com/my_playlists</nowiki>), click on the name of list you added to in the left hand column and click on 'Edit Playlist Info'. The 'Link' field is the URL for your playlist. Go to that URL and you can see the info for the deleted video.
::::Is this a little clearer, I hope? Let me know if any of the terminology is unfamiliar or if I need to go into more detail on something. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 12:16, 5 February 2010 (EST)
:::::Finally got it! Yatta! --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:27, 5 February 2010 (EST)

== Henkei summaries? ==

Hey, just a little self-serving question... I finally got around to "reading" the first graphic novel of the Henkei manga today, and when I say reading, I mean "reading the summaries on the wiki while looking at the pictures". I was wondering if you were considering going back to writing up summaries for the second half of the series, since... heh, well, I just really want to see where it all goes now. :) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:09, 9 February 2010 (EST)
:Aheh heh... Yes, I'll get back to writing up the summaries one of these days. This is what happens when I attempt multitasking... ''Baka!'' *headdesk* --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 15:15, 9 February 2010 (EST)

== Redirect disambigation page ==

Hello, I've started a thread on [[Template talk:Disambig3]], I think it is worth discussing and I'd like to invite you. :D --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 23:42, 16 March 2010 (EDT)

==Poll==
''3. You '''cannot''' pick a specific version of Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Megatron or Starscream. They're already being inducted!''
:-[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 01:26, 1 April 2010 (EDT)

==Landmarks from "TF EVO."==
[[New York City]]'s Flatiron Building with [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]], [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]], and [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]]; [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]], [[Arcee (Animated)|Arcee]], and [[Ironhide (Animated)|Ironhide]] going past [[London]]'s Big Ben. Is Optimus in a desert within the US? Starscream and Bumblebee battling with the [[France|Eiffel Tower]] in the background; Prowl versus Lockdown in front of [[wikipedia:Tsūtenkaku|Tsūtenkaku]]; Lugnut firing missiles in front of the [[Russia|Moscow Kremlin]] (I think), while Bulkhead releases his wrecking ball from the Great Wall of [[China]]. Blitzwing releases missiles in jet-mode and then fires in tank-mode while going past the [[Great Pyramid of Giza]], Ironhide blocking while in front of the [[Australia|Sydney Opera House]]. Arcee versus Blackarachnia I'm not sure, but the arches/columns on the right should mean a ruins of some sort. The Washington Monument seen before Ultra Magnus, Sentinel, Jazz, and Blurr gets blown away. City at the end that looks VAGUELY like NYC, but it's hard to make out the buildings (at about the 1:21 mark). --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 05:47, 3 April 2010 (EDT)

== Comicinterior templates and Dreamwave ==

I purposely avoided using that template because, well, Dreamwave doesn't own any of it, especially not after they collapsed. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:10, 4 April 2010 (EDT)
:Huh. Would Hasbro work then? Come to think of it, how do copyright works again? --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:23, 4 April 2010 (EDT)

== 2007 Movie ads ==
Sigh. I wish I didn't have to ask you about more TF ads, but I don't seem to have them saved and their homes on the web are gone. The ads in question are the one referred to as TV Spot #9 on the [[Commercial/Transformers (2007)|2007 Movie commercial page]] and the "Channel Red" commercials. Any chance you saved these? --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 21:56, 4 April 2010 (EDT)
:I don't have the Channel Red commercials, sadly. I do have #8 but the size is rather small. I was sure that I had #9, but I can't seem to find it. And remember how you asked me about the trailer attached to Shrek 3? I don't think I have it. D: --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:38, 5 April 2010 (EDT)
::No big deal on the Channel Red clips, I might be able to get those from their creator. I actually managed to download #8 and can send/upload that if you like. On a related note, I found a way to download the "Army" spot from MySpace so I can pass it along as well if you want. I think I tried to get #9 and unknowingly grabbed the wrong video as I ended up with two copies of #12 for some reason. If it helps at all, the file name that the clips saved to was "NewTransformersTVSpot". What I have is in .AVI format but I think they were originally .FLV's. Could be another opportunity to get it from iklipz since the server is responding again after being down the past 3-4+ days. Though it's not returning any actual pages, it is returning XML parsing errors and blank pages. So we have that going for us. Which is nice. And I did recently look back at that discussion about the Shrek trailer. I got in touch with the guy who recorded that and he told me that he didn't think he had the recording anymore. So I guess we have to hope Paramount/Bay/powers that be decide to release it someday. :/ --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 14:48, 5 April 2010 (EDT)
:::I have the "Army" spot. The #8 spot I have is MP4 and small in resolution size (and the only reason I remembered was because I was looking for the trailer score at the same time). I'm getting timeouts on trying iklipz again. On the Shrek trailer, it's rare if they ever release those kinds of trailers. :V --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 15:44, 5 April 2010 (EDT)
::::I think I've found another copy of #9 [http://boxspots.com/view/2495/comcast-usa-9/ here], but I can't remember if the line "The year's biggest adventure...arrives." was part of the original spot. Can you confirm if that's the case? If so, removing the Comcast stuff should be easy enough and we'll have a new, if lower res, copy of the spot.
::::Also, I've put together a rough first draft of a [[User:Tigerpaw28/Sandbox|Japanese commercial page]]. Would you be able help me with putting together an intro for it? I think I have a decent start discussing the similarities to other mecha toy commercials, but I'm not sure where to go next with it. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 00:39, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
:::::I think this one is either another variation or my memory's failing me; it's lacking Glenn's "THAT KILLER ROBOT IS REALLY DISTRACTING!" at the end, just right after the narrator goes "Transformers". Still a good find. (Dagnabbit, iklipz, fix the server...)
:::::Tweaked a bit on the commercial page, but I'm not too knowledgeable on Japanese commercials. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:07, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
::::::You're right about that movie spot. Bugger. Guess I'll have hope I get a response out of Moviebox.net or can find it on one my or my parent's tapes somewhere. Or maybe try asking around the message boards?
::::::Thank you very much for all the assistance with the commercial page. I like what you did with the intro. I'll probably add to it as I flesh out the video descriptions and get a better understanding of the spots but it's good for now. I went and downloaded every spot I could and came up with 4 videos that are no longer on YouTube:

::::::** 15-second clip promoting [[June 19]] and [[June 20]] release: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5vNDfzrf7A
::::::** Another 15-second TV commercial clip : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-d7l6Wd_Rg
::::::** Japan premiere coverage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0mVPp8c2cU
::::::** Japan premiere clip with guests: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwWsdt31DRc

::::::The latter two aren't actually commercials, but they were in your list so I thought you'd want to know.--[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 02:50, 18 April 2010 (EDT)
:::::::Yeah, bummer on not finding the one with Glen's line (the main reason I liked it was for the trailer music :3). Looks like I'll have to remove those 4 YT links from my list since they got yanked. Kinda wish I actually saved them earlier. *headdesk* --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:42, 18 April 2010 (EDT)
::::::::Did Glen's line come at the very tail end of the ad, after the TF logo? I've finished going through all of the commercials listed on all the pages (my sandbox included) and downloaded everything that I didn't upload. That wasn't what I meant with my question though. I was asking if any of the commercials I added were the same ads as the ones that were taken down.--[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 23:28, 18 April 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::My bad. >///< On Glen's line, it comes right after the logo, but before the credits.
:::::::::As for whether the CMs you put up were the same CMs that got yanked earlier... I THINK the TV CM 1 is probably the same as the one where I mentioned June 19 and June 20 on my list. The rest, I'm not entirely sure, but it's possible.
:::::::::Found this interview with Shia. http://video.nifty.com/cs/catalog/video_metadata/catalog_090610207832_1.htm 'Cept I'm not sure how to even save it... --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 01:03, 19 April 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::[http://dl.video.nifty.com/1/9601f09b4631c724f9fb6867bd7848bb/video/090610207832/1244613706x.mp4?0.218639584258199 Here's the URL of the video file.] If you have an email I can send to or if it's okay to send via PM at the Allspark, I'll send you a list of my techniques for grabbing videos. I thought that was where Glen's line came in. I think I might insert it into the Comcast clip and call it good. Since that scene roughly takes up the time difference between the actual ad and the Comcast padding, I'd think it's a good bet that's the only difference. I won't worry about the lost Japanese spots then, since it seems likely that I've recovered them.--[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 02:18, 19 April 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::::You da bot, Tiger. :) PM me at Allspark. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:47, 19 April 2010 (EDT)

== Override ==

I may not have an official source for the claims, but it is obvious that Override's voice actress changes throughout the series if you just listen to a variety of different episodes. In addition, the other voice actress who does her voice sounds exactly like Nicole Oliver. Just do a compariion of voices for Override on 2 different episodes (eg episode 6: Race, and episode 18: Champion). -- {{unsigned|99.225.156.168}} 15:30, 2 May 2010 (EDT)

==Special Secret Videos==
I've found better copies of the Micron Legend ones (or at least the second one since the audio and video are in sync) [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCTJJoF3ods here] and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z86-8vzFnd8 here]. Seems they're from VHS tapes that came with issues of TV Magazine. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 02:27, 7 May 2010 (EDT)
:Oh! I forgotten about those! I think I saved those two as well, but I need to dig through my HDs to check if they're better in quality or not. This is decent quality, even transcribed from VHS. :) --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:37, 7 May 2010 (EDT)
::While we're talking about these, I was just going through the UT section of my sandbox and a question occurred to me. Should these promo videos be included on the commercial page? In a way they don't seem to fit the traditional idea of a commercial, but they are promotional videos and we do have such things as video game trailers and the [[The Transformers: The Movie promo]] listed. Not sure if we should consider these extended trailers or something else. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 00:18, 8 May 2010 (EDT)
:::I say toss 'em in for posterity, cuz like you said, we also have video game trailers and TF:TM promo. In the blurb at the top, I included a short bit how Japan also sometimes release promotional vids that acts as supplemental material to a series. GF itself had about three extra vids that promoted the anime and the toys. Besides, it's a nice treat for the Western fans. :) --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 01:16, 8 May 2010 (EDT)
::::I took your suggestion to add them in and it's a good thing I did. I not only found FantoFan's [http://fantofan.jp/gf-tvcm.htm page with the original video upload] for the GF demo, I also found their [http://www.fantofan.jp/newsarchive2004.htm news post] about it. Turns out you were half right about the audio. It did originally have a different audio track when it aired at the Tokyo Entertainment Market (F2F uploaded a very brief vid of it), but they changed it to Lion's theme for the DVD release. That DVD and another one is pictured on the upload page. Would you be so kind as to translate the titles?--[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 18:38, 9 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::The title to the GF demo is "New Show: Transformers Galaxy Force Special Clip". The title on the disc for the demo is "Special Secret DVD - Great Strongest Commanders Gathering!!" [http://tvnihon.com/ TV-Nihon] has already subbed the second DVD, "Special Secret DVD - Stand up! Supreme Commander Galaxy Convoy". If you head to their forums and scroll down, you'll see "Transformers DDL". The Galaxy Force Special Secret DVD clips are in the GF thread. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 19:16, 9 May 2010 (EDT)

==Japanese Animated DVD Trailer==
I found a trailer for the Japanese Animated DVD vol. 1 release: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZEYECLvVZs]. I added a short entry to my sandbox but I figure with the abundance of on-screen text that you might be able to flesh it out some. [[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 16:38, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:It's from Paramount Japan's page on promoting Animated's DVDs, although it also seems to be found on Nico Nico. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:30, 2 July 2010 (EDT)

==Almanac Japanese==
Hey, lonegamer. Could you go into detail about why the Japanese on the back of the cover is incorrect? Because the two lines of Japanese text are pretty much gibberish to the uninitiated, and that obscures the differences. Thanks! [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 13:48, 1 July 2010 (EDT)

== WFC comic ==

You don't mind if I move your sandbox to the main part of the site? [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 09:05, 10 August 2010 (EDT)
:Help yourself out. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 12:54, 10 August 2010 (EDT)
::Thanks. Would you kindly scan some of the comic for us? [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 17:18, 10 August 2010 (EDT)
:::I'll try to find some time to do so, short of someone else beating me to it. :) --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:24, 10 August 2010 (EDT)
::::Much appreciated. :) [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 18:05, 10 August 2010 (EDT)

==That Energon comic by Tsushima==

I remember some while back on the AllSpark you posted an image of an Energon/Superlink comic by Naoto Tsushima. I think it came in a model kit or something like that? Do you have any more info on that, even if it's just a title, we could add it to the [[Manga]] article listings for completion's sake (there are a few manga we don't have much info on, like whatever that Tondemo thing is and the Mystery of Convoy one just links to the game). --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 18:20, 30 August 2010 (EDT)
:"Convoy versus Scourge" of said modelkit during SL's run. (Ack! I need to finish up Henkei's summaries!) --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:45, 30 August 2010 (EDT)
::Thanks! Is it spelled just like that? "Convoy versus Scourge"? Or is that a translation ("Konboi tai Sukaaji")? Just wanna know before I add the title to the Manga and Tsushima articles! --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 23:53, 30 August 2010 (EDT)
::Whoop! Just got your e-mail with the scan. Thanks! --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 23:59, 30 August 2010 (EDT)
:::S'all I found by chance. Next thing is finding (read: begging/annoying/<s>torturing</s>) someone who still has theirs. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 00:05, 31 August 2010 (EDT)

==Beast Wars Reborn title?==

I may be misremebering, but didn't you say some while back that Hydra gave you the titles to the last two chapters of the Beast Wars Reborn text stories (the ones he hadn't translated yet)? If so, could you add them to the main franchise page, or if it isn't too much, just build some stubs so we can include the Japanese and roomaji? Or, if you're busy, you can throw em my way and I'll toss em up. That's if I'm not misremembering, of course! --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 15:50, 11 October 2010 (EDT)
:It was the Henkei Visualize stuff that I sent to him - Hydra didn't send me anything. I only have a spreadsheet of Figure Oh's issue numbers and release dates. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 16:03, 11 October 2010 (EDT)
::Ah, misremembered, then. For some reason, I thought I recalled you askinghim for the titles somewhere in the TFPulp thread at the Allspark. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 18:51, 11 October 2010 (EDT)
:::That was me. 惑星上陸 (''Wakusei Jōriku'', "Planetfall") and 驚異のリフォーマット (''Kyōi no Reformat'', "Wonderful/Miraculous Reformat"). [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 19:03, 11 October 2010 (EDT)

== Takagi Interview ==

Unfortunately, the Trivia section note about Takagi's ingrained reaction to Starscream's name doesn't cite the source of the interview in which he said it. It says the interview was published about the time the show started airing in Japan, but doesn't even specify in which media (print, TV, radio, online). My Google-fu fails me in both Japanese and English so far. I've left a question about it on the Talk page for the article, but I'm not sure if I'll get a response.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 01:22, 23 October 2010 (EDT)
:That's a bummer. Thanks. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 01:26, 23 October 2010 (EDT)
::Minor progress! User [http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/利用者:ウィキペディアッー！アッー！], also known as ウィキペディアッー！, says it was possibly either ''Figure-Ō'' or ''Hyper Hobby'', but definitely a June issue in any case. Of course, this doesn't guarantee finding an answer, or even that the user's info is correct, but it's a lead.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 21:27, 24 October 2010 (EDT)
:::Hm. I'll have to dig through my Figure Oh collection to check, but if it's in Hyper Hobby, then I'm probably outta luck. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 21:36, 24 October 2010 (EDT)
:::I think this is it? [http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/content.php?/transformers-image/media/magazine/hyperhobby/201006/201006-080.jpg/image.html Hyper Hobby June 2010], at the bottom. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 21:58, 24 October 2010 (EDT)
::::Ooh, bravo! I was looking for references to a Takagi interview in either magazine and found none. I didn't think to look up scans of the articles for a full-cast interview. (Not that I'd have necessarily known where to look anyway.) How'd you track it down? Anyway, the citation's going into the Japanese wiki article...--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 23:00, 24 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::Takahashi, not Takagi. ;) As to how I found it, I checked through the Allspark's JP magazine scan gallery (we didn't have it) and then TF @ the Moon's gallery for issues starting from April 2010 (they did). --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:21, 24 October 2010 (EDT)
::::::D'oh, I don't know why I keep typing that. I've corrected myself before saving in other instances. At least I know I typed the correct Japanese characters for my web search.
::::::Anyway, that's another resource I guess I should note.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 23:25, 24 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::::Glad to serve! --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:37, 24 October 2010 (EDT)

==Title==
Can you confirm whether "新なる戦い!" is the original Japanese title of "[[A New Battle!]]"? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 01:08, 21 December 2010 (EST)
:"新たなる戦い!" is the original Japanese title. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 04:32, 21 December 2010 (EST)

== Enjoy being able to delete things now! ==

You're graduated to a sysop. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:02, 17 February 2011 (EST)
:>sniff< They grow up so fast...--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 13:17, 17 February 2011 (EST)
::Congrats on the promotion! --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 13:44, 17 February 2011 (EST)
:::Happy birthday! Wait, no, that's not right... --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 13:53, 17 February 2011 (EST)
::::Congrats, Lonegamer! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 13:59, 17 February 2011 (EST)

I WUUUUUUUUUV YOU GUYS! :D --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:18, 17 February 2011 (EST)

:::::You are Lonegamer. You are a SysOp! --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 15:05, 17 February 2011 (EST)
::::::Congrats! --[[User:Bluestreak7|Bluestreak7]] 17:54, 17 February 2011 (EST)
:::::::You've earned it. Congratulations.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 18:02, 17 February 2011 (EST)
::::::::Crap, hide the drugs! -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:14, 17 February 2011 (EST)

Dur hur hur... Imma gonna need some practice... :B --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 04:15, 18 February 2011 (EST)

== Copyright tags ==

Thanks for the backstop on the Corgi covers. I was going on the example set by the other four titles, which I have since updated per your format. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 19:14, 3 March 2011 (EST)
:No prob. :) --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 19:26, 3 March 2011 (EST)

== "English-original names" ==

You are aware that I added that to [[Ramjet (Animated)]]'s page specifically to keep up the lying style the article is written in, yes? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:23, 4 March 2011 (EST)
:<nowiki>*</nowiki>facepalm* This is why I shouldn't multitask when my sleep schedule's messed up. :B --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 21:25, 4 March 2011 (EST)

==2011 voting==
Hey, Lonegamer? Just in this one instance, can you specify which Override you're voting for? I'm guessing you meant Cybertron, but I'd just like it noted for the record. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 02:14, 29 March 2011 (EDT)
:EDIT: Also, why the vote for Victory Saber over Star Saber, out of curiosity? --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 03:47, 29 March 2011 (EDT)
::Brain fart when I was thinking up my choices. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 15:16, 29 March 2011 (EDT)

==heeeelp==
see [[User_talk:TX55#Chinese_MMO.3F|here]] --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 01:33, 16 March 2012 (EDT)

== Thanks for the advice! :-) ==

Thanks, but you see, even though I usually do what your advice says, my changes are removed even though they are well based. So I go to put them back. And I always like to contribute to and in anything that is Transformers. {{unsigned|Optimus Pranav}} 05:26, 28 October 2012 (EDT)

== I shall consider ==

I think i'll follow up on that. Thanks {{unsigned|Optimus Pranav}} 01:41, 29 October 2012 (EDT)

== Why? ==

Why did you put this on my talk page three times?
{{captionbastard}}
[[User:Movie09|Movie09]] 22:55, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
: Because you haven't stopped yet. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:10, 28 March 2013 (EDT)

==Hall of Fame 2013==
Hey, you! [[Transformers Wiki:TFWiki.net 2013 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Entries|Vote!]] *shakes fist* --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 04:00, 30 May 2013 (EDT)
:Hey, you! There! *shakes fist back* --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 04:16, 30 May 2013 (EDT)

== Watermark ==

:''Oh, FFS... Someone have access to the TF Wiki watermark?'' - [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=File:Classics_Topspin.jpg&curid=86930&diff=808934&oldid=803798 You]

[[:File:TFWiki-watermark.psd]] - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 08:17, 12 June 2013 (EDT)

:Thanks. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 05:55, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

== DiE colors ==

https://www.deviantart.com/kat444/art/Transformers-1-shot-149250316 The DeviantArt page of Krista Ward seems to indicate she did the first page. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:19, 10 September 2020 (EDT)

== Manga scans ==

Hey, Lonegamer. I'm making an archive for all Japanese printed Transformers media and I was wondering if you still had the Henkei and Galaxy Force manga scans still laying around? Thanks in advance! [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 23:00, 10 October 2020 (EDT)
: If you've got the raws for The Cool as well, that would be much appreciated! -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 20:27, 13 October 2020 (EDT)
::I definitely still have the raws for Henkei (both the pack-ins and the actual manga) and The Cool, but I need to check about Galaxy Force since it's been so long. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] ([[User talk:Lonegamer78|talk]]) 06:42, 16 October 2020 (EDT)
:Cool! Can you send it over when you've got the time? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 09:20, 16 October 2020 (EDT)
::The original raws are pretty huge, 30-40 Mb per page, so I don't know what's the minimum the archive can handle, or if you have a photoshop program to shrink their size. Have an email I could use? --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] ([[User talk:Lonegamer78|talk]]) 16:00, 16 October 2020 (EDT)
:::I should be able to shrink them down. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:33, 16 October 2020 (EDT)
::::Neato. It'll be Dropbox folders in batches, once I grab them from my other computer. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] ([[User talk:Lonegamer78|talk]]) 16:43, 16 October 2020 (EDT)
:::::Saix, KeroKero Ace Starscream comic sent. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] ([[User talk:Lonegamer78|talk]]) 20:36, 17 October 2020 (EDT)

Talk:Gilthor

2022-08-06T14:33:04Z

Arborday:

==Guiltar==
Than what convoy? Is there supposed to be a link to Fatimus prime in there?

Also, looking up for Guiltar, I heard some buzz that Inquiera, the Quint from whatsisface, was involved in creaction. You knwo anything abotu that? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:22, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
: ... what's Energon Prime got to do with anything?

:At least in the visuals, the only Quintesson in the story is a five-face judge model. Inquirata (from Forever Is A Long Time Coming) was a bulbous scientist model. I've never heard pf him being associated with the story before. -[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 08:01, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Then I suspect I was confused about hsi involvement. Here be Guiltar's profile from the defunct TF Pulp, if anyone wants to add in weapon name or such. -10:08, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

http://web.archive.org/web/20041025064549/www.tfpulp.com/articles/tvm/87-03/art_tvm0387.html

I'd be fine with changing the name to the more phoenetically-correct "'''Guiltaur'''", which is how ''I'd'' always Romanized it, myself. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:20, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Works for me, though I'm thinkin' it doesn't really matter. There's, like, 15 variations of the guy's name based on people's preferences. GuiltAUr is as good as GuiltOr is as good as GuiltAr, I suppose.--[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 19:41, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

==Guiltor==
We already have a Guiltar article. On that note, for someone who actually knows something about the Japanese language ('cause I don't :p), are the two spellings pretty much interchangeable? I so, a redirect might work better. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:13, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
:It depends on if タ ''ta'' or ト ''to'' is used, I guess. [[User:Singularity|Singularity]] 00:44, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

This article is redundant. I vote we turn it into a redirect to Guiltar... some of the pictures can be shoved over, the story can be expanded a bit, but there's no need to two full articles on the single dude, separated only by Romanization. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 18:32, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry about that. I didn't even think to look for "GuiltAr" since I'm so used to spelling it "my way". The roomaji for his name reads "Gi-ru-too-ru", which is why I always figured "GuiltOr" was more "accurate". If they wanted a "-tar" ending the Japanese typically use "-taa". Might wanna merge the two, sorry about the mix-up.--[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 18:35, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Spelling ==

[https://twitter.com/KanedaMasumi/status/1137835630145093632 This tweet] seems to indicate it's "gill", not "gil"? If he's named after [http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/banbaban72/imgs/2/9/297ed22a.jpg a fish submarine] piloted by gillmen, it seems to be the case... [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 11:14, 10 June 2019 (EDT)
:Although I guess Kaneda said "Gilthor" was okay, so *shrug* [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 12:21, 10 June 2019 (EDT)

== Flame Toys ==
I wanted to add a section for the upcoming Flame Toys model kit, but I wasn't really sure what the site's policy is; I'm assuming it shouldn't be added until it has an estimated release date, but I figured I should ask first. [[User:Arborday|Arborday]] ([[User talk:Arborday|talk]]) 10:33, 6 August 2022 (EDT)

Doctor Who

2022-08-06T14:14:29Z

Arborday: /* Notes */

'''''Doctor Who''''' is a [[television]] show featuring [[time travel]]. It might, just maybe, have something to do with the [[Doctor]].

==Fiction==
===Ask Vector Prime===
[[Vector Prime]] enjoyed ''Doctor Who'', despite the show depicting time travel inaccurately. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}

===''Bumblebee'' film===
[[Memo]] had a ''Doctor Who'' poster in his room. {{storylink|Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee}}

==Notes==
*Various [[Marvel Comics|Marvel UK]] ''Transformers'' creators have written for ''Doctor Who Magazine'', itself a Marvel UK title:
**[[Simon Furman]] wrote several stories at the same time he was writing for [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|the Marvel ''Transformers'' comic]]. This included the first crossover between [[Death's Head (G1)|Death's Head]] and the Doctor, and a Death's Head story featuring ''DWM'' character Keepsake.
**[[Dan Abnett]] wrote a number of ''Magazine'' strips in the late 80s and early 90s, as well as ''The Incomplete Death's Head''.
**[[Steve Parkhouse]] and [[John Ridgway]] are famous in ''Who'' fandom for their work on the ''Magazine'', which included a long run of Sixth Doctor strips. Sleepy [[Stansham]] is not too far removed from Stockbridge, a sleepy village from Parkhouse's strips.
**[[Mike Collins]] has a lengthy, still-going association with the strip.
*The [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|UK Marvel Generation 1 comic]] featured [[Octus (G1)|Octus]], who has a [[Dalek]] alt-mode, and the [[Ghost Stories|2017 ''Transformers'' annual]] has a generic Transformer based on the character {{w|K9 (Doctor Who)|K9}}.
*The character [[Natasha Pyraniac]] from the ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' adventure [[Time-Quake]] seems to be based on / influenced by one of the Doctor's foes, {{w|The Rani (Doctor Who)|the Rani}}.
*Other ''Doctor Who'' references in ''Transformers'' include [[Skaro]], [[Trenzalore]], the [[sonic screwdriver]], and [[Verronian Warp Star]]s.
*The Ask Vector Prime [[:File:AskVectorPrimeLogo.jpg|logo]] is a parody of the ''Doctor Who'' [http://filmreviewonline.com/wp-content/gallery/doctor-who-logos/196212.jpg logo] used from 2010 to 2014.
*In a 2013 episode of Doctor Who, "{{w|The Crimson Horror}}," the character Clara Oswald is seen to own a [[Galvatron_(G1)/toys#The_Transformers|G1 Galvatron]] figure.

==External links==
*''{{w|Doctor Who}}'' at Wikipedia

[[Category:Bumblebee]]
[[Category:Real-world cultural references]]
[[Category:Television programs]]

Doctor Who

2022-08-06T14:13:34Z

Arborday: /* Notes */

'''''Doctor Who''''' is a [[television]] show featuring [[time travel]]. It might, just maybe, have something to do with the [[Doctor]].

==Fiction==
===Ask Vector Prime===
[[Vector Prime]] enjoyed ''Doctor Who'', despite the show depicting time travel inaccurately. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}

===''Bumblebee'' film===
[[Memo]] had a ''Doctor Who'' poster in his room. {{storylink|Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee}}

==Notes==
*Various [[Marvel Comics|Marvel UK]] ''Transformers'' creators have written for ''Doctor Who Magazine'', itself a Marvel UK title:
**[[Simon Furman]] wrote several stories at the same time he was writing for [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|the Marvel ''Transformers'' comic]]. This included the first crossover between [[Death's Head (G1)|Death's Head]] and the Doctor, and a Death's Head story featuring ''DWM'' character Keepsake.
**[[Dan Abnett]] wrote a number of ''Magazine'' strips in the late 80s and early 90s, as well as ''The Incomplete Death's Head''.
**[[Steve Parkhouse]] and [[John Ridgway]] are famous in ''Who'' fandom for their work on the ''Magazine'', which included a long run of Sixth Doctor strips. Sleepy [[Stansham]] is not too far removed from Stockbridge, a sleepy village from Parkhouse's strips.
**[[Mike Collins]] has a lengthy, still-going association with the strip.
*The [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|UK Marvel Generation 1 comic]] featured [[Octus (G1)|Octus]], who has a [[Dalek]] alt-mode, and the [[Ghost Stories|2017 ''Transformers'' annual]] has a generic Transformer based on the character {{w|K9 (Doctor Who)|K9}}.
*The character [[Natasha Pyraniac]] from the ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' adventure [[Time-Quake]] seems to be based on / influenced by one of the Doctor's foes, {{w|The Rani (Doctor Who)|the Rani}}.
*Other ''Doctor Who'' references in ''Transformers'' include [[Skaro]], [[Trenzalore]], the [[sonic screwdriver]], and [[Verronian Warp Star]]s.
*The Ask Vector Prime [[:File:AskVectorPrimeLogo.jpg|logo]] is a parody of the ''Doctor Who'' [http://filmreviewonline.com/wp-content/gallery/doctor-who-logos/196212.jpg logo] used from 2010 to 2014.
*In a 2013 episode of Doctor Who, {{w|The Crimson Horror}}, the character Clara Oswald is seen to own a [[Galvatron_(G1)/toys#The_Transformers|G1 Galvatron]] figure.

==External links==
*''{{w|Doctor Who}}'' at Wikipedia

[[Category:Bumblebee]]
[[Category:Real-world cultural references]]
[[Category:Television programs]]

Signal Lancer (Cybertron)

2015-11-06T21:21:29Z

Arborday: /* Notes */

{{factions|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Lancer}}
{{picsneeded|Alternate mode}}
:''Signal Lancer is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].''
[[File:SignalLancerModel.jpg|thumb|So if that [[lance]] is his traffic light pole, does that mean he's skewering himself whenever he transforms?]]

After the Autobots were evacuated from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to [[Earth]], '''Signal Lancer''' (シグナルランサー ''Shigunaru Ransā'') is one of several Transformers who took the form of a stoplight. Located in a remote portion of the American desert, his only friend was a Transformer who turned into [[Phreaker|a pay phone]] located directly across the road.

{{quote|For too long, I've let life pass me by! Now I want to take part in the grand drama; my legacy will be written large among the stars!|Signal Lancer|"[[Beginning]]"}}

==Fiction==
===''Cybertron'' cartoon===
{{voiceactor|[[Paul Dobson]] (English), [[Takayasu Usui]] (Japanese)}}

On [[Lori Jiménez|Lori]]'s suggestion, Signal Lancer was given a traffic light [[alternate mode]] and stationed out in the desert. A random driver was stopped by his red light, and was puzzled to find traffic signals where there wasn't even a cross-road. He attempted to drive on, only for Signal Lancer to warn him about running red lights. The spectacle of a talking traffic light terrified the poor man, who sped away—as soon as Signal Lancer turned green. Lori told the newbie he shouldn't talk when he was in disguise, though Signal Lancer thought his assignment was going to be very boring as a result. [[Coby Hansen|Coby]] later told Lori that her traffic light disguise idea was a lame one. {{storylink|Hidden}}

[[File:SignalLancer.jpg|thumb|left|Don't cross the street in the middle in the middle in the middle in the middle in the middle of the block!]]
Signal Lancer passed on information about the [[Atlantis Pattern|seal of Atlantis]] to an Autobot refugee disguised as a tour bus. {{storylink|Search}} At some point, Signal Lancer relocated to the middle of a city along with an [[Phreaker|Autobot disguised as a payphone]]. They were there when [[Starscream (Armada)/Cartoon continuity|Starscream]]'s [[Ancient Decepticon|forces]] began searching the planet, and observed that the situation was getting worse by the minute. {{storylink|Invasion (episode)|Invasion}}

A short time after, Signal Lancer was hanging out back in the desert with the tour bus refugee when [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]] made an announcement that the Autobots would be departing from Earth as part of a plan to save it from Starscream's forces. {{storylink|Retreat}} When [[Megatron (Armada)/Cartoon continuity|Megatron]] invaded [[Niagara Falls]], Signal Lancer helped the Autobots evacuate the surrounding area by flashing his lights and announcing there was a tornado coming. {{storylink|Revelation (episode)|Revelation}}

He later returned to the desert where he was joined in his vigil by the payphone refugee. After the universe was saved from the threat of the [[Unicron Singularity]] and following the defeat of Galvatron, he stopped [[Tim Hansen]] and [[Dobson|Chief Dobson]]'s car as the two humans chatted about the future. After Signal Lancer turned green and the car had moved off, he announced he was going to answer the call of destiny. Transforming, he left his post and dashed off into the night. His payphone pal wished him good luck and requested he keep in contact. A short time later, Dobson passed back that way and was confused to see that the traffic light was missing.

Signal Lancer joined [[Metroplex (Cybertron)|Metroplex]]'s crew and journeyed out into space to work on constructing a new [[space bridge]]. {{storylink|Beginning}}

{{--}}

===Cyber Key Code content===
After the [[Omega Lock]] was retrieved and [[Megatron (Armada)|Galvatron]] finally defeated, "the Traffic Light Autobot" was commissioned by [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] to join [[Hightail (Cybertron) |Hightail]] as his partner and travel across Earth, mapping out every road on the planet.

{{note|This information, taken from Hightail's [[Cyber Key Codes|Key Code]] data, contradicts the
''Cybertron'' cartoon's final credit sequence... unless there's another "Traffic Light Autobot", which is possible.}}

===''TransTech''===
Signal Lancer was one of countless "offworlders" residing in [[Axiom Nexus]]. He had a drink with the [[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicon]] [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]]. {{storylink|Gone Too Far}}

==Notes==
[[File:SignalLancer-Transform.jpg|thumb|Get cracking, kitbashers.]]
* Signal Lancer is only named in ''Galaxy Force'' (the Japanese version of ''Cybertron'').
* During the early development stages of the ''Galaxy Force'' cartoon series, [[GONZO]] actually created a concept design for the robot mode of the initially unnamed "Traffic Light TF" (seen at top). When Signal Lancer finally revealed his robot mode (and name) in the series' (chronologically) final episode, [[Mudflap (Cybertron)|Mudflap]]'s general animation model and transformation scheme was used as a basis, but the details for the robot mode were directly based on the old concept design. The early design was shown at the Tokyo Anime Fair a few months after the ''Galaxy Force'' cartoon series was launched in Japan (see [http://snakas.web.fc2.com/event/0504tokyoanime.htm here]), and was eventually reprinted in the booklet included with the first ''Galaxy Force'' DVD.
* In South African English, a traffic signal is called a "robot". So Signal Lancer is a robot who turns into a robot.
* Signal Lancer has a cameo of sorts on the subscription variant cover of [[Transformers vs. G.I. Joe]]'s [[Stick To Your Guns|9th issue]].

[[Category:Cybertron Autobots]]
[[Category:Fiction-only Transformers]]
[[Category:TransTech Autobots]]

MediaWiki:TFWiki.net 2015 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Musician

2015-04-14T05:05:42Z

Arborday: /* Poll entries */

This is the page for the '''TFWiki.net Transformers Hall of Fame Best Musical Act Used In Transformers Branded Production''' entries. The rules are as follows:

#Pick your top three musicians whose work has appeared in an official ''Transformers'' production, from any era.
#Take your top three list and '''put it in alphabetical order'''. Order of preference does not matter.
#You '''cannot''' vote for '''Stan Bush.''' He's already been inducted!
#Only one entry per user.

Please put your characters of choice and user name below in the following manner:

*Linkin Park, Vince DiCola, Weird Al Yankovic--<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>

Poll entry period ends at 8am on '''[[April 20]]th, 2015'''. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] ([[User talk:Monzo|talk]]) 18:32, 13 April 2015 (EDT)

==Poll entries==

*Cheap Trick, Lion, Weird Al Yankovic--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 18:51, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
* Vince DiCola, N.R.G., "Weird Al" Yankovic--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 18:56, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
*Cheap Trick, Steve Jablonsky, Weird Al Yankovic - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] ([[User talk:RolonBolon|talk]]) 18:56, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
*Lion, Steve Jablonsky, "Weird Al" Yankovic--[[User:Zakor1138|Zakor1138]] ([[User talk:Zakor1138|talk]]) 19:08, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
*JAM Project, Steve Jablonsky, Weird Al Yankovic--[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:09, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
*Vince DiCola, N.R.G., Kōji Kaya, Morinoki Children's Chorus--[[User:S-NFS|S-NFS]] ([[User talk:S-NFS|talk]]) 2:18, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
*Cavo, Green Day, Linkin Park--[[User:ComeonandSLAM|ComeonandSLAM]] ([[User talk:ComeonandSLAM|talk]]) 19:33, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
*Saban Music --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 19:37, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
* Linkin Park, Steve Jablonsky, "Weird Al" Yankovic -- [[User:Bobpiecheese|Bobpiecheese]] ([[User talk:Bobpiecheese|talk]]) 21:38, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
* Green Day, Linkin Park, Steve Jablonsky -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 21:47, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
* Hironobu Kageyama, Psychic Lover, Kōji Wada --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 01:03, 14 April 2015 (EDT)
* Hideaki Takatori, Koji Wada, Weird Al -- [[User:Arborday|Arborday]] ([[User talk:Arborday|talk]]) 01:05, 14 April 2015 (EDT)



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MediaWiki:TFWiki.net 2015 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Combiner

2015-04-14T05:03:01Z

Arborday: /* Poll entries */

This is the page for the '''TFWiki.net Transformers Hall of Fame Favorite Combiner Auditions''' entries. The rules are as follows:

#Pick your top three favorite ''Transformers'' COMBINERS, from any era. They must be the '''combined forms,''' not individual robots from combiner teams. It is the sole discretion of the contest organizers to decide what does and does not count.
##Individual character votes '''[[Transformers Wiki:TFWiki.net 2015 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Character|go here!]]'''
#Take your top three list and '''put it in alphabetical order'''. Order of preference does not matter. Feel free to denote the character's franchise of origin, although these distinctions may or may not figure into the final results.
#Only one entry per user.

Please put your characters of choice and user name below in the following manner:

*Monstructor, Tripredacus, Rail Racer--<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>

Poll entry period ends at 8am on '''[[April 20]]th, 2015'''. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] ([[User talk:Monzo|talk]]) 18:22, 13 April 2015 (EDT)

==Poll entries==

*Liokaiser, Magnaboss, Nexus Prime--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 18:24, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
*Computron, Predaking, Rail Racer --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:40, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
*Bruticus, Devastator, Superion --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 18:50, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
*Bruticus, Devastator, Superion--[[User:Zakor1138|Zakor1138]] ([[User talk:Zakor1138|talk]]) 19:00, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
*Computron, Liokaiser, Battle Gaia -- [[User:S-NFS|S-NFS]] ([[User talk:S-NFS|talk]]) 2:07, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
*Magnaboss, Nexus Prime, Tripredacus --[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:12, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
*Bruticus, Devastator, Superion --[[User:ComeonandSLAM|ComeonandSLAM]] ([[User talk:ComeonandSLAM|talk]]) 19:29, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
*Big Rescue Force, Defensor, Mighty Robot --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 19:39, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
*Bruticus, Defensor, Menasor -- [[User:Kazenokasa|Kazenokasa]] ([[User talk:Kazenokasa|talk]]) 20:07, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
*Devastator, Menasor, Raiden -- [[User:Avalanche|Avalanche]] ([[User talk:Avalanche|talk]]) 21:33, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
* Bruticus, Menasor, Tripredacus -- [[User:Bobpiecheese|Bobpiecheese]] ([[User talk:Bobpiecheese|talk]]) 21:37, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
* Bruticus, Devastator, Sixshot -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 21:48, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
* Landcross, Liokaiser, Piranacon -- [[User:Ookalf|Ookalf]] ([[User talk:Ookalf|talk]]) 23:06, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
* Bruticus, Rail Racer, Superion -- [[User:Raininshadows|Raininshadows]] ([[User talk:Raininshadows|talk]]) 00:32, 14 April 2015 (EDT)
* Bruticus, Magnaboss, Predaking -- [[User:LordTacos|LordTacos]] ([[User talk:LordTacos|talk]]) 00:46, 14 April 2015 (EDT)
* Landfill (RID), Liokaiser, Ruination (RID) --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 00:55, 14 April 2015 (EDT)
* Abominus, Piranacon, Rail Racer -- [[User:Arborday|Arborday]] ([[User talk:Arborday|talk]]) 01:03, 14 April 2015 (EDT)


[[Category: TFWiki.net]]

MediaWiki:TFWiki.net 2015 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Character

2015-04-14T05:01:22Z

Arborday: /* Poll entries */

This is the page for the '''TFWiki.net Transformers Hall of Fame Favorite Character Auditions''' entries. The rules are as follows:

#You must pick your top three NON-COMBINED ''Transformers'' characters, from any era. They must actually '''be''' Transformers; sorry, but no humans, non-Transformer aliens, non-Transformer robots, or anything else of the sort are being considered for the Hall of Fame. Any votes for such entities will '''not''' be tabulated. It is the sole discretion of the contest organizers to decide what does and does not count.
##Combined form votes '''[[TFWiki.net 2015 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Combiner|go here!]]'''
#Take your top three list and '''put it in alphabetical order'''. Order of preference does not matter. Feel free to denote the character's franchise of origin, although these distinctions may or may not figure into the final results.
#You '''cannot''' pick a specific version of '''Arcee, Bumblebee, Dinobot, Grimlock, Ironhide, Jazz, Megatron, ''Beast Wars'' Megatron, Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Rodimus, Shockwave, Soundwave, Starscream, Ultra Magnus, Waspinator, or Wheeljack.''' They've already been inducted!
#However, '''you CAN vote''' for [[Optimus Primal]]'''! Hasbro considers him separate!
#Only one entry per user.

Please put your characters of choice and user name below in the following manner:

*Bulkhead, Emirate Xaaron, Hot Shot--<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>

Poll entry period ends at 8am on '''[[April 20]]th, 2015'''. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] ([[User talk:Monzo|talk]]) 18:13, 13 April 2015 (EDT)

==Poll entries==

* Impactor, Scrounge, Thunderclash--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 18:23, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
* Blaster, Optimus Primal, Prowl --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 18:52, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
* Elita One, Optimus Primal, Wreck-Gar--[[User:Zakor1138|Zakor1138]] ([[User talk:Zakor1138|talk]]) 18:58, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
* Delta Magnus, Star Saber, Deszaras, Victory Leo -- [[User:S-NFS|S-NFS]] ([[User talk:S-NFS|talk]]) 2:10, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
* Blackarachnia, Flareup, Windblade --[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:11, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
* Cheetor, Prowl, Wreck-Gar -- [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 19:15, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
* Blackarachnia, Prowl, Unicron -- [[User:ComeonandSLAM|ComeonandSLAM]] ([[User talk:ComeonandSLAM|talk]]) 19:24, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
* Blackarachnia, Heatwave, Sky-Byte --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:27, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
* Blackarachnia, Hot Shot, Ravage --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 19:35, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
* Bluestreak, Mirage, Prowl -- [[User:Kazenokasa|Kazenokasa]] ([[User talk:Kazenokasa|talk]]) 20:03, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
* Jetfire, Prowl, Rhinox -- [[User:Bobpiecheese|Bobpiecheese]] ([[User talk:Bobpiecheese|talk]]) 21:36, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
* Jetfire, Optimus Primal, Prowl -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 21:45, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
*Drift G1, Inferno BW, Mirage G1 -- [[User:Avalanche|Avalanche]] ([[User talk:Avalanche|talk]]) 22:17, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
* Ginrai, Heatwave, Star Saber -- [[User:Ookalf|Ookalf]] ([[User talk:Ookalf|talk]]) 22:55, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
* Demolishor, Hot Shot, Sideways -- [[User:Stardust262|Stardust262]] ([[User talk:Stardust262|talk]]) 23:27, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
* Jetfire, Prowl, Windblade -- [[User:Raininshadows|Raininshadows]] ([[User talk:Raininshadows|talk]]) 00:33, 14 April 2015 (EDT)
* Blackarachnia, Optimus Primal, Sky-Byte -- [[User:LordTacos|LordTacos]] ([[User talk:LordTacos|talk]]) 00:43, 14 April 2015 (EDT)
* Cheetor (BW), Ginrai, Optimus Primal --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 00:52, 14 April 2015 (EDT)
* Bludgeon, Tarn, Whirl -- [[User:Arborday|Arborday]] ([[User talk:Arborday|talk]]) 01:01, 14 April 2015 (EDT)


[[Category: TFWiki.net]]

MediaWiki:TFWiki.net 2014 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Entries

2014-05-31T15:08:32Z

Arborday: /* Poll entries */

This is the page for the '''TFWiki.net Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions''' entries. The rules are as follows:

#You must pick your top five ''Transformers'' characters, from any era. They must actually '''be''' Transformers; sorry, but no humans, non-Transformer aliens, non-Transformer robots, or anything else of the sort are being considered for the Hall of Fame. Any votes for such entities will '''not''' be tabulated. It is the sole discretion of the contest organizers to decide what does and does not count.
#Take your top five list and '''put it in alphabetical order'''. Order of preference does not matter. Feel free to denote the character's franchise of origin, although these distinctions may or may not figure into the final results.
#You '''cannot''' vote for a specific version of '''Bumblebee, Dinobot, Grimlock, Ironhide, Jazz, Megatron, ''Beast Wars'' Megatron, Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Shockwave, Soundwave, Starscream, Ultra Magnus, Waspinator, or Wheeljack.''' They've already been inducted!
#However, '''you CAN vote''' for [[Optimus Primal]]'''! Hasbro considers him separate!
#Only one entry per user.

Please put your characters of choice and user name below in the following manner:

*Bulkhead, Emirate Xaaron, Hot Shot, Terrorsaur (BW), X-Brawn --<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>

Poll entry period ends at 4pm on '''[[June 2]]nd, 2014'''. [[User:Monzo|Monzo]] ([[User talk:Monzo|talk]]) 17:10, 28 May 2014 (EDT)

==Poll entries==


*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Bulkhead, Lockdown, Sky-Byte. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 17:12, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Optimus Primal, Rattrap, Sky-Byte --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] ([[User talk:FortMax|talk]]) 17:15, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Barricade, Devastator, Lockdown, Ravage, Sideways -[[User:LV|LV]] ([[User talk:LV|talk]]) 17:16, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Bludgeon, Overlord, Scorponok (G1), Thunderwing, Unicron -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 17:18, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Impactor, Mindwipe, Ratbat, Scrounge. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 17:19, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Bulkhead, Devastator, Hot Shot, Ratbat, Rattrap - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] ([[User talk:RolonBolon|talk]]) 17:22, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Blackarachnia, Hot Shot, Nightbeat, Shokaract, Ravage --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 17:28, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Devastator, Hot Shot, Ravage, Sky-Byte -- [[User:Shellspark|Shellspark]] ([[User talk:Shellspark|talk]]) 17:30, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Blackarachnia, Cyclonus, Lockdown, Prowl, Rodimus -- [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 17:33, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Rodimus, Scorponok, Scrounge, Sky-Byte, Swerve --[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] ([[User talk:G.B. Blackrock|talk]]) 17:36, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Lockdown, Sky-Byte, Windblade --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:36, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Cheetor, Ginrai, Optimus Primal, Sky-Byte, Springer --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 17:38, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Bruticus, Gimlet, Predaking, Sky-Byte --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 17:39, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Hot Shot, Laserbeak, Ravage -- [[User:Bobpiecheese|Bobpiecheese]] ([[User talk:Bobpiecheese|talk]]) 17:47, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Hot Rod, Optimus Primal, Sky-Byte, Smokescreen -- [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 17:51, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Barricade(Bayverse), Prowl, Sideswipe, Sunstreaker, Thundercracker--regdog
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Hot Shot, Optimus Primal, Sunstreaker -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 17:59, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Bruticus, Devastator, Lockdown, Prowl, Scourge-- [[User:Quadropl|Quadropl]] ([[User talk:Quadropl|talk]]) 18:02, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Cosmos, Sky-Byte, Sky Lynx, Thundercracker, Warpath --[[User:Sockie|Sockie]] ([[User talk:Sockie|talk]]) 18:05, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee (Prime), Blackarachnia (BW), Bulkhead (Animated or Prime), Optimus Primal, Rhinox. -- [[User:MetalShadowX|MetalShadowX]] ([[User talk:MetalShadowX|talk]]) 18:11, 28 May 2014 (EST)
*Arcee, Omega Supreme, Ratbat, Rumble, Sky-Byte - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 18:16, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Elita-One, Perceptor, Windblade --[[User:WhirlyBird|WhirlyBird]] ([[User talk:WhirlyBird|talk]]) 18:29, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Devastator, Optimus Primal, Rodimus, Unicron - [[User:Protoman|Protoman]] ([[User talk:Protoman|talk]]) 18:45, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Cyclonus, Optimus Primal, Rodimus Prime --[[User:Garrulous9|Garrulous9]] ([[User talk:Garrulous9|talk]]) 19:05, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
* Arcee, Blackarachnia, Drift, Optimus Primal, Rattrap --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 19:32, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
* Arcee, Drift, Lockdown, Rodimus (Hot Rod or Rodimus Prime or Rodimus Major or whatever Hasbro wants to call him), Sideways (Armada). -- [[User:Sky Shadow|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow|talk]])
*Arcee, Blitzwing, Devastator, Ravage, Rodimus--[[User:Riddlerj|Riddlerj]] ([[User talk:Riddlerj|talk]]) 20:06, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Prowl (Animated), Rodimus (Animated), Thundercracker, Windblade--[[User:Crowork|Crowork]] ([[User talk:Crowork|talk]]) 20:35, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Rodimus, Slipstream, Thundercracker --[[User:Karanseraph|Karanseraph]] ([[User talk:Karanseraph|talk]]) 20:58, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Bulkhead, Knock Out, Sky-Byte, Swerve, Whirl--[[User:ScreamerFan|ScreamerFan]] ([[User talk:ScreamerFan|talk]]) 20:22, 28 May 2014 (CST)
*Ratbat, Rattrap, Straxus, Swindle, Terrorsaur -- [[User:Stevo|Stevo]] ([[User talk:Stevo|talk]]) 21:35, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Blackarachnia, Devastator, Rattrap, Ravage, Sky-Byte. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] ([[User talk:Hooper X|talk]]) 21:43, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Bludgeon, Galvatron, Prowl, Rhinox, Rodimus -- [[User:Kyojikasshu|Kyojikasshu]] ([[User talk:Kyojikasshu|talk]]) 22:10, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Perceptor, Prowl, Rodimus, Sideswipe -- [[User:Trixter|Trixter]] ([[User talk:Trixter|talk]]) 22:26, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Knock Out, Sky-Byte, Slipstream --[[User:Professor Icepick|Professor Icepick]] ([[User talk:Professor Icepick|talk]]) 22:31, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Cyclonus, Prowl, Scorponok, Sunstreaker, Swindle - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] ([[User talk:Cattleprod|talk]]) 00:53, 29 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Sideswipe, Smokescreen, Springer --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 01:17, 29 May 2014 (EDT)
*Blitzwing (Animated), Galvatron, Laserbeak, Ravage, Sky-Byte --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 02:50, 29 May 2014 (EDT)
*Devastator, Hot Rod, Prowl, Sideswipe, Springer -- [[User:Mister Jazzz|Mister Jazz]] ([[User talk:Mister Jazzz|talk]]) 06:43, 29 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Hot Rod, Optimus Primal, Ravage -- [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 09:13, 29 May 2014 (EDT)
*G1 Blades, G1 First Aid, G1 Groove, G1 Hot Spot, G1 Streetwise [[User:Ironhold|Ironhold]] ([[User talk:Ironhold|talk]]) 15:30, 29 May 2014 (EDT)
*Bluestreak, Devastator, Gears, Rattrap, Sky-Byte --[[User:Bluestreak7|Bluestreak7]] ([[User talk:Bluestreak7|talk]]) 15:51, 29 May 2014 (EDT)
*Demolishor, Hot Shot, Override, Red Alert (Armada), Sideways --[[User:Stardust262|Stardust262]] ([[User talk:Stardust262|talk]]) 15:53, 29 May 2014 (EDT)
*Bulkhead, Fortress Maximus, Ginrai, Prowl, Star Saber --[[User:Ookalf|Ookalf]] ([[User talk:Ookalf|talk]]) 15:56, 29 May 2014 (EDT)
*Bulkhead, Ironfist, Pharma, Straxus, Wreck-Gar (Animated) --[[User:HunterCham|HunterCham]] ([[User talk:HunterCham|talk]]) 16:06, 29 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Ravage, Windblade, Wreck-Gar --[[User:Wednesday|wednesday]] ([[User talk:Wednesday|talk]]) 17:30, 29 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Ginrai, Skids, Swerve, Trypticon --[[User:Zycrow|Zycrow]] ([[User talk:Zycrow|talk]]) 17:44, 29 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Cosmos, Elita One, Hot Shot, Tailgate --[[User:TheTFGeek]]
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Lockdown, Sky-Byte, Swerve --[[User:SamuraiMarmoset]] 18:47, 29th May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Cyclonus, Jetfire, Swerve, Thunderwing --[[User:Astrakhan]] 19:37, 29 May 2014
*Arcee, Drift, Mirage, Perceptor, Thundercracker --[[User:TwistersIndigo|Twister]] ([[User talk:TwistersIndigo|talk]]) 19:52, 29 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Galvatron, Optimus Primal, Prima, Swindle--[[User:TimeLord11|TimeLord11]] ([[User talk:TimeLord11|talk]]) 19:57 29 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Cyclonus, Galvatron, Rodimus, Whirl -[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 20:07, 29 May 2014 (EDT)
*Blackarachnia, Ironfist, Lockdown, Rodimus, Rung --[[User:JediFlaherty|JediFlaherty]] ([[User talk:JediFlaherty|talk]]) 20:44, 29 May 2014 (EDT)
*Blackarachnia, Bulkhead, Optimus Primal, Predaking (Prime), Windblade -- [[User:Nemesis Primal|Nemesis Primal]] ([[User talk:Nemesis Primal|talk]]) 20:52, 29 May 2014 (EDT)
*Blackarachnia, Blaster, Jhiaxus, Prowl, Rattrap --[[User:MattR42|MattR42]]
*Arcee, Blaster, Cyclonus, Optimus Primal, Rodimus --[[User:Sharpless|Sharpless]]
*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Cyclonus, Elita One, Optimus Primal --[[User:SpaceHusband|SpaceHusband]]
*Airazor, Arcee, Galvatron, Rodimus, Windblade --[[User:DissMech|DissMech]]
*Arcee, Heatwave, Prowl, Rhinox, Sky-Byte --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:50, 30 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Cyclonus, Lockdown, Sky-Byte, Windblade --[[User:Boy Blunderous|Boy Blunderous]] ([[User talk:Boy Blunderous|talk]]) 02:24, 30 May 2014 (EDT)
*Cyclonus (G1), Kup, Optimus Primal, Rattrap, Sky-Byte --[[User:LordTacos|LordTacos]]
*Predaking, Primus, Sentinel Prime, The Fallen, Unicron --[[User:AlienProfano|AlienProfano]] ([[User talk:AlienProfano|talk]]) 04:33, 30 May 2014 (EDT)
*Galvatron, Rodimus, Sideswipe, Tarn, Whirl -- [[User:Valgatron|Valgatron]] 13:13, 30 May 2014
*Arcee, Devastator, Optimus Primal, Overload, Rodimus -- Marv 07:28, 30 May 2014
*Arcee, Lockdown, Omega Supreme, Perceptor, Rodimus -- [[User:Cydra|Cydra]] ([[User talk:Cydra|talk]]) 11:36, 30 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Hound, Sideswipe, Sky-Byte, Smokescreen -- [[User:Erosion271|Erosion271]] ([[User talk:Eeosion21|talk]])
*Arcee,Barricade,Jetfire,Rampage,Star Saber--[[User:TulioDude|TulioDude]] ([[User talk:TulioDude|talk]]) 19:42, 30 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Skywarp, Tigatron, Windblade [[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] ([[User talk:Crockalley|talk]]) 19:43, 30 May 2014 (EDT)
*Chromedome, Cyclonus, Rewind, Rodimus, Rung - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] [[User talk:Queso|Complain here]] 21:35, 30 May 2014 (EDT)
*Alpha Trion, Arcee, Hound, Jetfire, Unicron - [[User:Day54dotsee-a|Day54dotsee-a]] ([[User talk:Day54dotsee-a|talk]]) 23:49, 30 May 2014 (EDT)
*Brawl, Chromedome, Frenzy, Rotorstorm, Sixshot --[[User:Apoc|Apoc]] ([[User talk:Apoc|talk]]) 06:36, 31 May 2014 (EDT)
*Alpha Trion, Arcee, Devastator, Omega Supreme, Prowl [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] ([[User talk:Alientraveller|talk]]) 08:34, 31 May 2014 (EDT)
*Nightbeat, Optimus Primal, Rattrap, Rodimus, Springer -- [[User:Danja|Danja]] ([[User talk:Danja|talk]]) 08:57, 31 May 2014 (EDT)
*Blitzwing, Devastator, Elita One, Rodimus Prime, Strika -- [[User:lunatron|lunatron]] ([[User:lunatron|talk]]) 09:07, 31 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Bludgeon, Overlord, Springer, Whirl -- [[User:Arborday|Arborday]] ([[User talk:Arborday|talk]]) 11:08, 31 May 2014 (EDT)


[[Category: TFWiki.net]]

MediaWiki:TFWiki.net 2014 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Entries

2014-05-31T15:08:10Z

Arborday: /* Poll entries */

This is the page for the '''TFWiki.net Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions''' entries. The rules are as follows:

#You must pick your top five ''Transformers'' characters, from any era. They must actually '''be''' Transformers; sorry, but no humans, non-Transformer aliens, non-Transformer robots, or anything else of the sort are being considered for the Hall of Fame. Any votes for such entities will '''not''' be tabulated. It is the sole discretion of the contest organizers to decide what does and does not count.
#Take your top five list and '''put it in alphabetical order'''. Order of preference does not matter. Feel free to denote the character's franchise of origin, although these distinctions may or may not figure into the final results.
#You '''cannot''' vote for a specific version of '''Bumblebee, Dinobot, Grimlock, Ironhide, Jazz, Megatron, ''Beast Wars'' Megatron, Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Shockwave, Soundwave, Starscream, Ultra Magnus, Waspinator, or Wheeljack.''' They've already been inducted!
#However, '''you CAN vote''' for [[Optimus Primal]]'''! Hasbro considers him separate!
#Only one entry per user.

Please put your characters of choice and user name below in the following manner:

*Bulkhead, Emirate Xaaron, Hot Shot, Terrorsaur (BW), X-Brawn --<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>

Poll entry period ends at 4pm on '''[[June 2]]nd, 2014'''. [[User:Monzo|Monzo]] ([[User talk:Monzo|talk]]) 17:10, 28 May 2014 (EDT)

==Poll entries==


*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Bulkhead, Lockdown, Sky-Byte. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 17:12, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Optimus Primal, Rattrap, Sky-Byte --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] ([[User talk:FortMax|talk]]) 17:15, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Barricade, Devastator, Lockdown, Ravage, Sideways -[[User:LV|LV]] ([[User talk:LV|talk]]) 17:16, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Bludgeon, Overlord, Scorponok (G1), Thunderwing, Unicron -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 17:18, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Impactor, Mindwipe, Ratbat, Scrounge. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 17:19, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Bulkhead, Devastator, Hot Shot, Ratbat, Rattrap - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] ([[User talk:RolonBolon|talk]]) 17:22, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Blackarachnia, Hot Shot, Nightbeat, Shokaract, Ravage --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 17:28, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Devastator, Hot Shot, Ravage, Sky-Byte -- [[User:Shellspark|Shellspark]] ([[User talk:Shellspark|talk]]) 17:30, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Blackarachnia, Cyclonus, Lockdown, Prowl, Rodimus -- [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 17:33, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Rodimus, Scorponok, Scrounge, Sky-Byte, Swerve --[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] ([[User talk:G.B. Blackrock|talk]]) 17:36, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Lockdown, Sky-Byte, Windblade --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:36, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Cheetor, Ginrai, Optimus Primal, Sky-Byte, Springer --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 17:38, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Bruticus, Gimlet, Predaking, Sky-Byte --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 17:39, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Hot Shot, Laserbeak, Ravage -- [[User:Bobpiecheese|Bobpiecheese]] ([[User talk:Bobpiecheese|talk]]) 17:47, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Hot Rod, Optimus Primal, Sky-Byte, Smokescreen -- [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 17:51, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Barricade(Bayverse), Prowl, Sideswipe, Sunstreaker, Thundercracker--regdog
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Hot Shot, Optimus Primal, Sunstreaker -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 17:59, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Bruticus, Devastator, Lockdown, Prowl, Scourge-- [[User:Quadropl|Quadropl]] ([[User talk:Quadropl|talk]]) 18:02, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Cosmos, Sky-Byte, Sky Lynx, Thundercracker, Warpath --[[User:Sockie|Sockie]] ([[User talk:Sockie|talk]]) 18:05, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee (Prime), Blackarachnia (BW), Bulkhead (Animated or Prime), Optimus Primal, Rhinox. -- [[User:MetalShadowX|MetalShadowX]] ([[User talk:MetalShadowX|talk]]) 18:11, 28 May 2014 (EST)
*Arcee, Omega Supreme, Ratbat, Rumble, Sky-Byte - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 18:16, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Elita-One, Perceptor, Windblade --[[User:WhirlyBird|WhirlyBird]] ([[User talk:WhirlyBird|talk]]) 18:29, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Devastator, Optimus Primal, Rodimus, Unicron - [[User:Protoman|Protoman]] ([[User talk:Protoman|talk]]) 18:45, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Cyclonus, Optimus Primal, Rodimus Prime --[[User:Garrulous9|Garrulous9]] ([[User talk:Garrulous9|talk]]) 19:05, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
* Arcee, Blackarachnia, Drift, Optimus Primal, Rattrap --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 19:32, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
* Arcee, Drift, Lockdown, Rodimus (Hot Rod or Rodimus Prime or Rodimus Major or whatever Hasbro wants to call him), Sideways (Armada). -- [[User:Sky Shadow|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow|talk]])
*Arcee, Blitzwing, Devastator, Ravage, Rodimus--[[User:Riddlerj|Riddlerj]] ([[User talk:Riddlerj|talk]]) 20:06, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Prowl (Animated), Rodimus (Animated), Thundercracker, Windblade--[[User:Crowork|Crowork]] ([[User talk:Crowork|talk]]) 20:35, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Rodimus, Slipstream, Thundercracker --[[User:Karanseraph|Karanseraph]] ([[User talk:Karanseraph|talk]]) 20:58, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Bulkhead, Knock Out, Sky-Byte, Swerve, Whirl--[[User:ScreamerFan|ScreamerFan]] ([[User talk:ScreamerFan|talk]]) 20:22, 28 May 2014 (CST)
*Ratbat, Rattrap, Straxus, Swindle, Terrorsaur -- [[User:Stevo|Stevo]] ([[User talk:Stevo|talk]]) 21:35, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Blackarachnia, Devastator, Rattrap, Ravage, Sky-Byte. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] ([[User talk:Hooper X|talk]]) 21:43, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Bludgeon, Galvatron, Prowl, Rhinox, Rodimus -- [[User:Kyojikasshu|Kyojikasshu]] ([[User talk:Kyojikasshu|talk]]) 22:10, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Perceptor, Prowl, Rodimus, Sideswipe -- [[User:Trixter|Trixter]] ([[User talk:Trixter|talk]]) 22:26, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Knock Out, Sky-Byte, Slipstream --[[User:Professor Icepick|Professor Icepick]] ([[User talk:Professor Icepick|talk]]) 22:31, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
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Talk:World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace

2014-04-30T12:45:03Z

Arborday: Created page with "I wanted to add some characters to the list but I'm not familiar with that formatting and dont want to break everything. At Megatron's trial, to the left of Sandstorm you can..."

I wanted to add some characters to the list but I'm not familiar with that formatting and dont want to break everything. At Megatron's trial, to the left of Sandstorm you can see Metalhawk and Fat Tankor (Metalhawk should be dead of course but it sure looks like him), and Blurr to the left of Ultra Magnus. [[User:Arborday|Arborday]] ([[User talk:Arborday|talk]]) 08:45, 30 April 2014 (EDT)

2005 IDW continuity

2014-04-15T00:01:16Z

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The '''IDW ''Generation 1'' continuity''' is the storyline of [[IDW Publishing]]'s ''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'' reboot comic-book series, begun in [[2005]]. It is separate from all other ''Generation 1'' fiction, re-imagining the [[Autobot]]-[[Decepticon]] [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] as a galaxy-spanning conflict, with [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] abandoned as a dead husk and teams from both sides covertly operating on various alien worlds to defend or destroy the native populations—including [[Earth]].

==Overview==
==="-ations"===
[[File:Escalation 1 a.jpg|200px|thumb|Remember that time when this didn't happen?]]
Masterminded by classic Transformers author [[Simon Furman]] and told across several consecutive mini-series—almost all given titles ending with "-ation" (''[[The Transformers: Infiltration|Infiltration]]'', ''[[The Transformers: Escalation|Escalation]]'', etc.), hence this becoming a catch-all term for Furman's time on the books—and interlocking single-character "[[The Transformers: Spotlight|spotlight]]" one-shots, the story of IDW's first "era" brings the [[Transformer]]s into the modern day. The traditional "crashed on Earth 4 million years ago" origin is done away with, replaced with a cloak-and-dagger storyline of aliens hiding in plain sight on Earth, not dissimilar to the approach that would be taken in a few years by the [[Transformers (film)|live-action film]]. With [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] an uninhabitable wasteland, Earth is presented as simply one of many battlegrounds in a galaxy-spanning war of subversion and conquest that sees the [[Decepticon]]s employ a [[Infiltration protocol|strict protocol]] of infiltration as they attempt to take over alien worlds. [[Alternate mode]]s serve a very real and important purpose of disguise, as discovery by natives is strictly forbidden by both factions. Open conflict is rare, and battles are often fought entirely in vehicle forms. The series is much darker then the original Marvel comics and G1 cartoon, featuring Autobots who make morally ambiguous decisions, Decepticons that regularly kill humans and Autobots, and many themes of horrific modification, racism, and civilian casualties.

The story opens on Earth, as the Decepticons there have discovered a wildly powerful [[Ore-13|source of energy]], and break protocol to secure it. This soon brings both [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]] to the planet, escalating the conflict. The [[human]]s are deeply involved as well, both innocent bystanders and active covert organizations such as the [[Machination]], led by a rogue Cybertronian in hiding and seeking to create a Transformer-human hybrid, and [[Skywatch]], a secret US military organization who have control of multiple Transformers who visited Earth prior to the current conflict. As protocol collapses and the war grows more devastating, threats begin to arrive from space: first the alien [[Reaper]]s, and then a cabal of undead ancient Transformers who attempt to destroy the universe by unleashing the power of the [[Dead Universe]] they serve.

====Cast====
Unconstrained by the needs of portraying a current toyline, Furman was offered a much greater choice in the characters he could feature in his stories, opening with an assortment of the more familiar 1984/85 [[Autobot]]s and Decepticons, but with the added wild cards of the [[Battlecharger]]s. Major characters from latter portions of the Generation 1 franchise like [[Hot Rod (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Hot Rod]] and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ultra Magnus]] were soon to join, as were fan favorites from Furman's days on the original [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel series]] like [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] and [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]. Popular characters who had never had a chance to shine in Western fiction like [[Sixshot (G1)|Sixshot]] and [[Doubledealer]] became prominent antagonists, while some, such as [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]], seemed like almost random additions! Perhaps the greatest example of characters being unconstrained by previous depictions was the transformation of [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] into a [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]].

For ''Infiltration'', artist [[E. J. Su]] created new designs for many members of the cast, giving them updated, modern alternate modes—central protagonist [[Ratchet (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ratchet]], for instance, became a Dodge Sprinter ambulance, versus his original Generation 1 design of "van with lightbar on top"—with robot modes reworked accordingly. A few characters retained their original alternate modes but gained updated robot modes, such as [[Bumblebee (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Bumblebee]], while characters like [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]] and [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] stuck to their original designs.

====Technology====

One of the more distinctive elements of Furman's run was the large amount of new technology employed by the characters in waging their cold war. The Autobots disguise their true nature with solid-light "[[holomatter]]" projections which serve as decoy drivers for their vehicle modes, and function as avatars for the Autobots, even quite some distance away, allowing them to covertly interact with a planet's natives. The Decepticons also make use of the human form, employing [[facsimile construct]]s — synthetic humans used to destabilize the societies of target worlds.

Several long-standing concepts that are commonplace in Transformers stories were wound back to their point of origin so their development could be integrated into the ongoing tale. [[Combiner]] technology, for instance, is not in use at the outset of the series, appearing only as a failed experiment that yielded the barbaric [[Monstructor (G1)|Monstructor]]. [[Pretender]] technology likewise appeared only as a failed experiment, and Headmaster tech makes its debut after years of covert and illegal development. Even the faithful standby of [[space bridge]] travel is not available to the main characters, who instead employ a short-range teleportation method called "[[orbital jump]]". On the flipside, Furman chose to directly incorporate the implicitly-ever-present concept of [[size changing]], a topic generally left to fan discussion and untouched by official fiction, depicting the attendant mass-displacement as highly energy consumptive.

====Other creators====

Every mini-series and one-shot that was part of the major ongoing story of the "-ations" era was scripted by Simon Furman, but a few other publications at the time saw other writers take the reigns. [[Eric Holmes]]'s ''[[The Transformers: Megatron Origin|Megatron Origin]]'' explored the early days of the war on Cybertron, centring on the rise of the Decepticon leader, while the freedom offered by the "Spotlight" format yielded three one-shot tales by new writers: a psycho-thriller horror about [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] by [[Nick Roche]], a confusing parallel timeline story featuring [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] by [[George Strayton]], and a new take on [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] with a humorous bent by [[Stuart Moore]]. Moore also took up scripting duties on a four-issue ''[[New Avengers/Transformers]]'' crossover that took place within the present-day events of the "-ations" storyline and was co-published with [[Marvel Comics]].

===''All Hail Megatron''===

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Seeking to provide a jumping-on point for new readers, IDW brought Simon Furman's run to a truncated end with the ''[[Revelation (IDW)|Revelation]]'' storyline. While the writer wrapped up what loose ends he could in a follow-up mini-series, ''[[The Transformers: Maximum Dinobots|Maximum Dinobots]]'', the new series began—''[[The Transformers: All Hail Megatron|All Hail Megatron]]'', a "soft reboot" taking place one year after the end of Furman's storyline and beginning ''in medias res'', with the Autobots mysteriously absent, and the Decepticons free to rain destruction on Earth. As was the case during Furman's run, "Spotlight" one-shots supplemented the series, but were by a variety of creators and rarely tied into its events.

This twelve-issue series was written by newcomer [[Shane McCarthy]] with art primarily by [[Guido Guidi]], and courted controversy among fans for its near-complete abandonment of much of the world-building done during Furman's tenure. The story's cast was stripped down to the major players from 1984–1986, with many characters redesigned to either resemble the original [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]], or to promote their new toys in the current ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' line. Perhaps the most enduring element associated with this year-long era for IDW's Transformers was the introduction of [[Drift (G1)|Drift]], an original Autobot character created by McCarthy who was eventually turned into a toy a few years later in spite of his polarizing effect on the fandom.

The series was initially intended to be followed by a four-issue mini-series entitled ''All Hail Megatron: Coda'', which would contain a variety of short stories that were supposed to address some of the continuity issues between Furman and McCarthy's run. Instead, these four issues were released as issues #13-16 of ''All Hail Megatron'', and contained stories that bridged the gap between the series and the upcoming ongoing comic book.

===Ongoing series===

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Serving as another jumping-on point for new readers, the [[The Transformers (IDW)|''Transformers'' ongoing series]] by new writer [[Mike Costa]] launched at the start of 2010, beginning two years after the end of ''All Hail Megatron''. As the series begins, the Autobots are attempting to figure out what to do next after the end of the war, while being hounded by the refurbished Skywatch, led by [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]]. The death of [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] prompts Optimus Prime to retire his post as leader, surrendering himself to Skywatch and leaving leadership split between Bumblebee and [[Hot Rod (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Hot Rod]]; the former soon takes sole command when a disastrous deal brokered with some Decepticon stragglers forces a disgraced Hot Rod to go it alone. An alliance is soon forged between the Autobots and Skywatch without the knowledge of the government, but everything soon goes wrong when the Decepticons launch a revenge attack on two fronts, assaulting the Autobots directly on the battlefield, and manipulating human minds to turn popular opinion against them.

The ongoing proceeded to transition into a more "space-based" approach to storytelling as it headed towards its final storyline, beginning with the three-part "Space Opera" storyline, and followed by the flashback-heavy "Chaos Theory", a look into Megatron and Optimus Prime's relationship penned by [[James Roberts]]. Roberts co-authored the final arc, "[[Chaos (IDW)|Chaos]]", in which the Autobots battle both the returned [[Galvatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Galvatron]] and his army, and the true evil of the Dead Universe, [[D-Void]]. "Chaos" had originally been intended to be a separate mini-series, but was incorporated into the ongoing, which shipped bi-weekly for the duration of the storyline, with alternating issues focusing on the final story on Earth as the Skywatch alliance finally breaks down. Concluding with its 31st issue, the series was wrapped up at the end of 2011 with the one-shot "[[Transformers: The Death of Optimus Prime]]," jointly written, James Roberts and [[John Barber]], who went on to author the new series that launched the following year.

====Art style====

The ongoing heralded the return of popular artist [[Don Figueroa]] to Transformers comics, having left two years prior. Figueroa debuted a new take on Transformer designs that reformatted the entire cast yet again in a very different, mechanically complex design-style that was both evocative of the [[Transformers (film)|live-action movie series]], and immediately very unpopular with the fandom. In a new move, IDW did not require their artists to adhere to these designs, and so the various companion mini-series published alongside the ongoing (see below), and even later issues of the series itself drawn by different artists, featured a bevy of styles and designs that played fast and loose with any kind of consistency regarding character appearance and alternate mode. Artist [[Alex Milne]] went on to take over as main artist for the series at the year-and-a-half mark, and introduced some consistency by drawing the characters in streamlined versions of their Figueroa designs.

====Companion mini-series====
Bumblebee's rise to leadership is chronicled in a [[The Transformers: Bumblebee|companion mini-series]] published concurrently with the first arc of the ongoing, by [[Zander Cannon]] and [[Chee Yang Ong]]. Also released simultaneously as the third part of this opening hat-trick of books was ''[[The Transformers: Last Stand of the Wreckers|Last Stand of the Wreckers]]'', a mini-series following the activities of the much-loved [[Wrecker|Autobot commando team]] elsewhere in the galaxy. Written and drawn by IDW rising star Nick Roche with the aid of longtime fan-author [[James Roberts]], this mini was a breakout super-hit that turned the creative team into fandom darlings, and led to Roberts becoming a regular writer in 2012 (see below).

Costa would also script the final ''Spotlight'' one-shot to date, centered on [[Prowl (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Prowl]] with art by E. J. Su, and the ''[[The Transformers: Ironhide|Ironhide]]'' series, following up the story of the character's apparent death, illustrated by [[Casey Coller]] and [[Joana Lafuente]]. These were followed at the end of 2010 by ''[[The Transformers: Drift|Drift]]'', in which Shane McCarthy returned to explore the backstory of his creation, drawn by [[Alex Milne]] and [[Josh Perez]].

Build up to ''Chaos'' took place across two other mini-series: the two-issue ''[[Infestation (IDW)|Infestation]]'', a tie-in to IDW's cross-franchise event, and ''[[The Transformers: Heart of Darkness|Heart of Darkness]]'', which both picked back up on lingering continuity points from Simon Furman's run, following Galvatron in his mission to raise an army against D-Void. Both series were scripted by [[Dan Abnett]] and [[Andy Lanning]], with Nick Roche illustrated the well-received former; conversely, a disjointed story and art from [[Ulises Farinas]], clearly unfamiliar with and lacking the ability to draw Transformers, left ''Heart of Darkness'' as perhaps the worst-received offering of the ongoing era.

===''More than Meets the Eye'' and ''Robots in Disguise''===

2012 ushered in not one, but two new ongoing series as successors to the previous series. Establishing that the remaining Transformers had been picked up from Earth, both series are exclusively space-based. Most characters had been redesigned again, but the in-story explanation is that they were courtesy of Wheeljack (at least for the Autobots). Despite the two series going in different directions, they are connected to each other in various ways — sharing cover images that connect with the other series, and themes (like the Dinobots) featured in both series in August 2012. Both series also start a new tradition since IDW's takeover of the license: special Annual issues. Both series are not afraid to kill popular characters (Furman would be proud). The writers of both series collaborate closely with one another.

====''More than Meets the Eye''====

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''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye]]'', by [[James Roberts]], focuses around Rodimus's crew of the ''[[Lost Light]]'' and their efforts to find the mystical [[Knights of Cybertron]]. The cast is very diverse — many of the main characters have had little to no prior focus in Transformers fiction. Roberts pulls heavily from both [[Simon Furman]]'s run and his own prior efforts to establish a rich continuity.

====''Robots in Disguise''====

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''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise]]'', authored by [[John Barber]], involves the efforts of [[Bumblebee (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Bumblebee]] to maintain peace over a post-war, primitive Cybertron. He's joined by [[Metalhawk (Masterforce)|Metalhawk]] and [[Starscream (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Starscream]] to appeal to the [[NAIL]]s and Decepticons, respectively. Unfortunately, plots by [[Prowl (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Prowl]] and various Decepticons threaten to undermine the new peace.

==Media==
The continuity includes the following mini-series, listed in approximate ''chronological'' order:

* ''[[The Transformers: Megatron Origin]]'' — A four-issue miniseries. Megatron rises from a laboring miner to founder and leader of the [[Decepticon]] faction.
* ''[[The Transformers: Spotlight]]'' — An irregularly ongoing series of one-shot stories focusing on a single Transformer per issue. The stories generally fit in to various points in the Transformers' history.
*''[[The Transformers: Autocracy]]'', a digital comic written by [[Flint Dille]] and drawn by [[Livio Ramondelli]].
*''[[The Transformers: Monstrosity]]'', sequel to Autocracy by the same creative team.
* ''[[The Transformers: Infiltration]]'' — A seven-issue miniseries (issues #0 to #6). On Earth, the Decepticons have discovered a potent new power source, and risk everything to exploit it.
* ''[[The Transformers: Stormbringer]]'' — A four-issue miniseries (issues #7 to #10). On the burnt-out husk of Cybertron, [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] works to revive the ultra-powerful but crazed Thunderwing.
* ''[[The Transformers: Escalation]]'' — Sequel to ''Infiltration''. Six-issue miniseries (issues #11 to #16). The war on Earth breaks out into open conflict as the Decepticons attempt to make use of the newly-discovered Ore-13.
* ''[[New Avengers/Transformers]]'' — A four-issue miniseries. The Earth Autobots team up with the superhero squad the [[Avengers|New Avengers]] to confront the Decepticons in the country of [[Latveria]].
* ''[[The Transformers: Devastation]]'' — Sequel to ''Escalation''. Six-issue miniseries (issues #17 to #22). Megatron throws caution and protocol to the wind, unleashing his ultimate warrior, Sixshot, on the Earth-based Autobots.
* ''[[Revelation (IDW)|Revelation]]'' — Sequel to ''Devastation'', presented as a special series of four ''[[The Transformers: Spotlight|Spotlight]]''s. The Autobots abandon Earth to deal with the threat of the [[Dead Universe]].
* ''[[The Transformers: Maximum Dinobots]]'' — Sequel to ''Revelation''. Five-issue miniseries that features [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] and his [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]], [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]], [[Hot Rod (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Hot Rod]] and the return of the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] and [[Shockwave (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Shockwave]].
* ''[[The Transformers: Drift]]'' — A four-issue miniseries that was published biweekly, beginning in August 2010. It focuses on [[Drift (G1)|Drift]]'s past as a Decepticon and was written by Drift's creator — [[Shane McCarthy]] — with art by [[Alex Milne]] (line-art) and [[Josh Perez]] (colors).
* ''[[The Transformers: All Hail Megatron]]'' — A 16-issue maxi-series dealing with the fate of Earth at the hands of the Decepticons one year after the withdrawal of the Autobots at the end of ''Revelation''.
* ''[[The Transformers Continuum]]'' — A one-issue (somewhat skewed) history of the Transformers thus far.
* ''[[The Transformers: Last Stand of the Wreckers]]'' — A five-issue miniseries spotlighting the [[Wrecker|Autobot subgroup]]'s adventured outside of Earth. Published alongside the ongoing series but set, initially, before it.
* ''[[The Transformers (IDW)|The Transformers]]'' ongoing series — takes place 2 years after ''All Hail Megatron'', with the Autobots in hiding from the military out to destroy them.
* ''[[The Transformers: Bumblebee]]'' — A four-issue miniseries focused on Bumblebee as the newly elected Autobot leader, which takes place between issues 3 and 5 of the ongoing series.
* ''[[The Transformers: Ironhide]]'' — A four-issue miniseries revolving around [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]'s mysterious resurrection on Cybertron. It was written by [[Mike Costa]] with art by [[Casey Coller]] and colors by [[Joana Lafuente]].
* ''[[Infestation (IDW)|Infestation]]'' — IDW multi-franchise (with ''[[Star Trek]]'', ''[[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]'' and ''Ghostbusters'') crossover event. With [[zombie]]s. Written by [[Dan Abnett]] and [[Andy Lanning]], art by [[Nick Roche]].
* ''[[The Transformers: Heart of Darkness]]'' — A four-issue miniseries focusing on Galvatron, Cyclonus, Scourge and the Sweeps, and on events that take place between the ''All Hail Megatron'' code and ''Infestation''. Written by [[Dan Abnett]] and [[Andy Lanning]], with art by [[Ulises Farinas]].
*''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise]]'' — An ongoing split off from ''The Transformers'', written by [[John Barber]] that started in January 2012.
*''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye]]'' — The second ongoing continuation of ''The Transformers'' begun in January 2012, written by [[James Roberts]].

==Timeline==
''See main article: [[IDW timeline]].''

==Notes==
* As of, roughly, issue #6 of the 2009 ongoing series, there have been more issues of the IDW continuity published than there were in the original [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel Comics US continuity]].
* When IDW first picked up the ''Transformers'' license, Simon Furman pitched a story that would have tied in to his idea for a ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]'' ongoing comic, and would possibly have been in continuity with the [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] comics. The G1 story would have begun with the destruction of Cybertron and the discovery that the destruction of [[Unicron]] in the [[universal stream|Aurex cluster]] had destabilized the entire [[omniverse]]. To save all of existence, the Autobots travel across the galaxy attempting to reassemble an artifact called the 'Decepticon Matrix', which would have resurrected Unicron - a plot which parallels that of ''Cybertron'', in which the Autobots seek out the [[Cyber Planet Key]]s to revive [[Primus]]. [[Vector Prime]] would have appeared in both series, travelling between universes to guide both groups of Autobots in their quest. It seems that series would then have come together with the concurrent ''Cybertron'' comic as Transformers from across the [[multiverse]] were brought together for a final, epic clash.<ref>Pitch printed in ''[[The Transformers: The Best of Simon Furman]]''</ref>

==References==
<references/>
[[Category:Comics]]
[[Category:Continuities]]
[[Category:Generation 1]]

MediaWiki talk:Community Portal

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This is the place for discussion of topics that affect the entire wiki. Some topics that would ordinarily be here have merited their own pages:

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<div class="list-header">'''Moving From Wikia:'''</div>
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Arriving|Arriving]]
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Leaving|Leaving]]
* [[Transformers Wiki:Community Portal/Complaints|Complaints]]
 <div class="list-header">'''New Ad Policy:'''</div>
* [[Transformers Wiki:Ads|Ads]]
 <div class="list-header">'''Bookworm Database-Crash:'''</div>
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Damage Control Central|Damage Control Central]]
* [[Project:Bookworm Crash]]
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Leaving2|Leaving Take 2]]
 <div class="list-header">'''Server Move:'''</div>
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Arriving2|Arriving Take 2]]
 <div class="list-header">'''Relicensing:'''</div>
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Relicensing|Relicensing]]
 <div class="list-header">'''Dealing With Vandalism:'''</div>
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Vandalism|Vandalism]]
 <div class="list-header">'''GoBots Sister Wiki:'''</div>
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/GoBots|Discussion on the place of GoBots in this wiki]]
 <div class="list-header">'''Wiki Technical Information:'''</div>
* [[Transformers_Wiki:Tech|A Not So Brief Summary of the Horrible Things That McFly and Co. Have Done To Keep This Wiki From Melting Down]]
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==Batchtaster?==

Really? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 18:19, 1 January 2013 (EST)

== Captions ==

I have often found myself simply reading this website for entertainment because it just appeals to my sense of humor that much. I have often found myself wanting to somehow upvote or like a caption because it was just that good. Is there a way to do this? If not, can there be? [[User:Tourny|Tourny]] 20:59, 5 January 2013 (EST)
:I don't think that'd ever happen, because at the end of the day, this a Transformers wiki, not a 'post your Transformers jokes here' website. The jokes aren't and never should be the main focus, they're just a fun side effect. If anything, such a system would kind of legitimise the people who show up and do just want to use this place as a place to post their 'hilarious' Transformers jokes without contributing anything useful, and god knows we don't want that... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 04:52, 6 January 2013 (EST)
::A most welcome way of doing it would be to point out the captions you like by posting to your facebook or twitter or what have you, especially with a link to the TFWiki page in question. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:18, 6 January 2013 (EST)

== Aligned character page main images ==

Since we've finally beun to treat the Aligned characters like we do characters of other continuities by disambiguating them by franchise, does anyone else feel that a bunch of characters with (WFC) disambigs having their Prime designs as their main image feels a little off? I mean, [[Thundercracker (Armada)]] uses his Armada design as his main image despite his Cybertron depiction being his most prominent one. Wouldn't it make more sense to have the WFC designs be the main images for those characters who bear the (WFC) disambig and such? Especially since our policy says, "the main image [of a character's page] should be their original 'real world' form". --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 00:34, 7 January 2013 (EST)
:Not sure why it's there for Thundercracker, but characters like [[Sideways (RID)]] and [[The Fallen]] use their later body designs for their mainpics. It's the most prominent way they've appeared, same as Sideways and Fallen. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:40, 7 January 2013 (EST)
::The only reason Sideways has his Armada body at the top of the page is that there is no art of the RID body. His packaging image was a photo of his toy and he hasn't appeared in that body anywhere in fiction. The Fallen has his movie body because, well, it was our most popular page for a year or two, because of the movies, and so he was a special case. Regardless, a part of me is pretty okay with the Aligned guys having their Prime bodies at the top, ignoring all standards. That feels a lot different to me than the disambiguation parenthetical, which is there for organization, not for looks or presentation like the main image is. But my feelings are not super strong. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:31, 7 January 2013 (EST)
:::I think we should stick with the Prime images. I'm basically okay with the disambig change at this point after not being on board at first, but I think keeping their Prime main images will help mitigate the potential confusion or blurring of the lines that Aligned seems to always foster. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 05:09, 7 January 2013 (EST)
::::I think for the time being, Prime images make the most sense. ''Going into the future'', I think additional different-looking cartoons in the Aligned continuity would be a decent argument for returning to WFC bodies, because at that point they're simply one of many looks, instead of the less prominent of two. -[[User:LV|LV]] 11:49, 7 January 2013 (EST)

==Continuing spam==
With the spam continuing, even with captchas and email activation turned on, are we to assume that it's some actual poor bastards sitting there copypasting nonsense about handbags into pages? Would a possible solution be trivia-style verification questions? Something most TF fans would know, or could otherwise find out easily, but that a bored spammer would lack the initiative to find out? Like 'who is the Combaticon leader?' or 'what faction does Hound belong to?' and so on. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 14:57, 8 January 2013 (EST)
:''Are'' Captchas and email activation turned on? I'm not sure how they could be. These are obviously bots, and last I heard we'd only turned on the requirement to register before you can edit.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:05, 8 January 2013 (EST)
::Yeah, log out and check the account creation page, there's a reCAPTCHA thingmabob on there now. Sipher mentioned activation emails being turned on in the spam discusson further up the page, but looking at the sign-up page again, email isn't required, so I guess it can't be... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 15:14, 8 January 2013 (EST)

::There are [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Anti-spam_features several simple steps] that would improve matters immediately and immensely - [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TitleBlacklist TitleBlacklist] to block the likes of <nowiki>[[Talk:Something/]] and [[Talk:/Something]]</nowiki>, preventing users from creating User: pages with their first edit by requiring the Autoconfirmed permission to do so, adding a [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgSpamRegex $wgSpamRegex] to LocalSettings.php to prevent pages from being saved if they contain obvious trigger words like "viagra", "cialis", "online casino", "ugg boots" and so forth. They just aren't being used. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 19:20, 8 January 2013 (EST)

::reCaptcha is a piece of poop, security-wise. I'm also reluctant to add more extensions at the moment, due to performance issues, BUT. Find something simple and lightweight to REPLACE reCaptcha, and we can talk. --[[User:McFly|McFly]] 05:38, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
:::$wgSpamRegex isn't an extension, it's a line of code you can add various banned words to (i.e., if "viagra" is in the list and someone tries to save a page that includes it, the page wouldn't save and they'd get a error message telling them why it wouldn't save. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 07:29, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
::::You know what WASN'T on? wgEmailConfirmToEdit. That may make a LOT more sense, as I'd wager that spambots aren't actually including legit emails. Email authentication is NOT the same thing. --[[User:McFly|McFly]] 16:50, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

:I still don't think reCaptcha is helping, as noticed, and it doesn't have anything like, say, a lockout policy, so I've bit the bullet and added a modified version of the SpamBlacklist extension, adding in RBL support and some basic language filters in one go. It's reasonably light on DB traffic, too. Will it slow the flood? That remains to be seen, but they're still getting around it right now. I also think I've resolved the IP blocking issue, so we might (might!) be okay now. Turns out that adding a load balancer in front of the Squid caches hurts Mediawiki's IP detection logic. --[[User:McFly|McFly]] 20:21, 16 January 2013 (EST)
::Alternate suggestion: could the system be modded to block an editor from creating an article until one of their edits is marked as patrolled (and thus approved as legitimate)?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 00:53, 24 March 2013 (EDT)

== We are moving very very soon. ==

That means at some point within the next few hours to few days the wiki will go to Read Only mode while McFly moves stuff around. Then we won't be hemorrhaging cash and things will run smoothly and we'll all have boners, even the ladies. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:12, 9 January 2013 (EST)
:I've got one right now! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 17:23, 9 January 2013 (EST)

Okay, so, uh, what the hell happened? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 00:43, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
:We have moved. Some things are still being tweaked. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:46, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
::Well, I knew we moved, just I thought nothing would look different. Oh, well. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 00:52, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
:::New Mediawiki software version. Some things got a little mixed up in the move, and newer versions decided to put the hammer down on bad practices. Other things are just... being refactored from a distinct lack of notes. --[[User:McFly|McFly]] 01:43, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
::::Most of what's left is going to be us rejiggering some templates to more efficient code, and documenting the snot out of things so McFly doesn't name his first ulcer after us.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:02, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
::::: http://science.education.nih.gov/home2.nsf/Educational+ResourcesResource+FormatsOnline+Resources+High+School/928BAB9A176A71B585256CCD00634489 :p - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 07:25, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
:::::: Pedantry aside, I CAN name my migraines after you. Stress exacerbates THOSE. --[[User:McFly|McFly]] 20:05, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
::::::: Which migraine's stronger then? Madness or little Sanity? :p - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 10:36, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

===Stuffs what have gone wrong(er)===
User CSS files aren't being called post-move. Basically, the stuff [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#CSS.2FJs here] was previously all set true, now it's set false. [Is [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] even working?] - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 07:25, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
: Compared old LocalSettings.php to new, wgUseSiteJs/wgUseSiteCss were NOT set over there. If you're not just making blanket assumptions, please point my not-MediaWiki-understanding ass to the right place. Remember, I built the house, but others (Scout? Derik?) actually laid out the rooms and installed the appliances. My understanding of Mediawiki extends out to "Ooh, shiny mediawiki package in apt repositories..." Anything else is a '''Wild. Ass. Guess.''' --[[User:McFly|McFly]] 20:05, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
::I'm not an expert ('''And I can't see the Wiki's LocalSettings.php myself to be sure!'''), but I have played around with MediaWiki a fair bit, so I'm beyond the "oh, shiny" stage and I know where to look at in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Contents .
::For instance, I don't know what $wgAutoConfirmAge and $wgAutoConfirmCount are currrently set to. If the createpage and upload ''have'' been set, but those two variables are ''not'' set, a fairly minimal barrier would be two days & four edits before you can create pages and upload files - certainly, very few spambots will hang around for two whole days before editing!

<pre>
$wgAutoConfirmAge = 86400 * 2; # Two days times 86400 seconds/day
$wgAutoConfirmCount = 4;
</pre>

::If they HAVEN'T been set, you can add them with:
<pre>
# Only users with accounts in autoconfirmed group
# (registered accounts at least as old as $wgAutoConfirmAge and having at least as many edits as $wgAutoConfirmCount)
# can create pages:
$wgGroupPermissions['*' ]['createpage'] = false;
$wgGroupPermissions['user' ]['createpage'] = false;
$wgGroupPermissions['autoconfirmed']['createpage'] = true;

# Only users with accounts in autoconfirmed group
# (registered accounts at least as old as $wgAutoConfirmAge and having at least as many edits as $wgAutoConfirmCount)
# can upload files:
$wgGroupPermissions['*' ]['upload'] = false;
$wgGroupPermissions['user' ]['upload'] = false;
$wgGroupPermissions['autoconfirmed']['upload'] = true;
</pre>
::-[[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 10:36, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

===Broken templates===
{{tl|cal-date}} is broken, but I'm not template savvy enough to fix it. Anyone want to have a go? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 07:17, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
:Ja, I will fix it. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:15, 17 January 2013 (EST)
::$%^&* I'm getting ''closer'' to fixing it. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:02, 17 January 2013 (EST)
:::''*cries piteously*'' -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:43, 17 January 2013 (EST)
::::I've just had a go and I think that's sorted it! Not sure if there are any other broken templates lurking out there... --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:58, 20 January 2013 (EST)
===Storylink===
Are the storylinks looking odd for anyone else? They appear as full size text without the surrounding box from before for me. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:29, 20 January 2013 (EST)
:Yeah, storylinks, note boxes, disambig boxes, organisation templates (eg. listing comics issues) and episode/issue/etc. infoboxes are all not displaying correctly. I assume that the folks who know what they're doing with this kind of stuff are working on getting them fixed.. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 12:42, 20 January 2013 (EST)
::I think that's done it - or at least it's displaying normally for me now. Well done to all involved, much appreciated. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 17:04, 22 January 2013 (EST)

== Still Confused About All This ==

I just got registered so that I can always find this site.

When I search for Transformers Wiki, all I get is Teletraan 1 and I don't like that site as well. Heck, their information on BotShots is woefully unsatisfactory.

Did this site used to be that site or the other way around? Much of the information in articles looks copied from one site or the other.

Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask these questions. I was looking for an e-mail address or something and couldn't find it. {{unsigned|Haven13}}
:No worries! We were originally at Wikia, but split with them in September 2008 and went independent. Wikia are still operating the old version, but it doesn't get updated in a lot of areas.
:Where is it you're searching for Transformers Wiki? We come up first on Google when I search on there. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:16, 23 January 2013 (EST)
::Ooh! Ooh! Let me guess! BING. (Who are blocked for '''hammering''' our wee servers.) --[[User:McFly|McFly]] 23:52, 23 January 2013 (EST)
:::Well, I just searched for "transformers wiki" on bing.com and we were the first result. Followed by the wikia site, wikipedia's main Transformers page, and wikipedia's Transformers (film) page. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 07:01, 24 January 2013 (EST)

== Key things missing from toy sections on character pages ==

There are a couple of things most toy sections don't have that would probably be useful:
* a link to the page about the toyline - some articles have it, but they don't seem to be the majority.
* for characters who've been more than one faction in fiction, knowing what faction their toy was sold as would be useful, especially if the toyline's page isn't split into Autobots and Decepticons.
Just a couple of ideas. --[[User:Flicky1991|Flicky1991]] 16:45, 2 February 2013 (EST)
:More than once I have thought a link to the toyline would be handy. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:31, 2 February 2013 (EST)

== New Theme ==

So, according to Hasbro, basically the entire new theme of the Transformers brand is now Beast Hunters. So why not change the wiki theme from Animated to Beast Hunters? Just a suggestion,if people don't like it, whatever. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 12:15, 10 February 2013 (EST)
:That's a good idea. Even if not Beast Hunters specifically, a Prime-related theme would make more sense than Animated now, considering it's been a couple of years. --[[User:Flicky1991|Flicky1991]] 12:43, 10 February 2013 (EST)
:Yeah, sounds awesome! I'm in favor of a TFP theme, when do we change? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:42, 4 November 2013 (EST)
::Why would we change to TFP after it just ended rather conclusively?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:23, 4 November 2013 (EST)
:::Yeah, you've got a point, maybe TF4, when it comes out? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 23:27, 4 November 2013 (EST)

== Trivia/notes sections ==

While I have nothing against a "trivia" or "notes" section (we are not Wikipedia, after all), it is my opinion that such a section should really only contain general notes about the article's subject that are either really trivial, or too general to fit into any specific paragraph. In particular, a noteworthy two-line bit regarding a specific toy in an article about a character with multiple toys might better fit into the specific toy's entry. For example, if the toy had a prototype that was very different from the final toy, the toy's entry isn't very long and the info about the prototype doesn't fill the page either, it could better be added to the toy's entry (since it's actual information about the toy, and its design process), rather than treating it as marginal trivia that is ostracized from the main portion of the article. Likewise, informative notes about fictional appearances of a character and after-the-fact retcons that affect the general perception of said character are better added as notes to the specific fiction writeup, rather than shoving it into the "notes" ghetto. So simply put: Short notes that are directly related to a specific part of the article might better be placed in that very part, rather than in an inflated catch-all "notes" section. Thoughts?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 15:45, 16 February 2013 (EST)

== Proposal to rename an article. ==

Hi, I'm proposing that the article "Brick Springhorn" be renamed to "Brick Springstern". Because of an error in the original comic, the character was given both names at various points during the story. A radio announcer called him "Springstern" and an editorial caption said he was "Springhorn". Usually, I'd agree with calling him "Springhorn". We can rationalise the mistake by saying the announcer was mistaken or drunk or something, and of course "Springhorn" is just a damn funny name. Except...

In the recent IDW reprint (which I was re-reading today), they have corrected the error, and he's now called "Springstern" throughout the comic. (Similar to how the IDW reprints corrected the Sherman Dam / Boulder Dam mistake).

Given that "Springstern" is now his name throughout the most recent printing, I'd suggest that most readers trying to look up the character will type "Springstern" into the search box. I know the redirect is in place, but I feel that maybe it should now be the other way round, with 'Horn' redirecing to a main article located at 'Stern'.

Advice and opinion welcome! --[[User:Ryan Frost|Ryan Frost]] 17:55, 14 March 2013 (EDT)
:This is terrible news, because you're probably right, and I hate it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:01, 14 March 2013 (EDT)

== Database dump ==

Hello! In my region I have a bit of an internet connection issue so I'm using WikiTaxi for offline wikia browsing. Since tfwiki is based on wikimedia system I was wondering if a database dump of current pages could possibly be generated for download? I see that it currently doesn't exist on your special: statistics page. I'd rather avoid any mirroring software as it would no doubt cause issues with the site so I hope someone can help with this.

Thank you in advance,

[[User:NocteDraconis|NocteDraconis]]
:I can't help personally, but it might be worth also posting this over in the [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=83287 TFWiki discussion thread] on the Allspark board, it's frequented by several of the sysops/technical-know-how guys from here. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 09:05, 27 March 2013 (EDT)

:Thank you for pointing me in the right direction :)Though, I do hope someone will take notice of the question here as well. [[User:NocteDraconis|NocteDraconis]] 15:12, 27 March 2013 (EDIT)

== Proposing New Continuity Term for Multipath Books ==

Hi, I've been working on the first six Find Your Fate Junior books since I joined about a month ago, and just finished a summary for [[Dinobots Strike Back]]. While I'm still revising it, I just began editing relevant info into character pages, and starting with Starscream's, I found I needed a new term to explain how paths within the same book relate to each other without using the word "book". I didn't see anything that applies to this in the Continuities page, so I began referring to each individual book as its own "micro-continuity nexus". I think this is necessary to clarify that each book has its own tangle of paths which don't carry over to other books in the series, even though the books in that particular series are numbered by Ballantine.

For example, when moving from that first book onto Starscream's actions in [[Battle Drive]], I'd begin the first paragraph with: "In the next adjacent micro-continuity nexus, Starscream and Blitzwing were on a strafing-run to torch farmland, when..." since "later" isn't true with no possible book-to-book continuity, but I need to indicate that the summaries are moving on to the next book beyond just the storylinks in that section of the character page.

Please let me know if there's a better, established term I should be using for this phenomenon. Perhaps some term applied to video games with alternate endings? I don't know jack about TFVGs, and haven't studied those pages yet. I intend to add all relevant content from Dinobots Strike Back to the character pages soon, while it's still fresh in my mind, so please let me know if I'm at risk of muddying them up with a nonsensical term. [[User:Bumblevivisector|Bumblevivisector]] 23:49, 4 May 2013 (EDT)
: A couple years ago [[User:Hooper_X/SANDBALLS/Example_character_article/Games|I was trying to figure out how to describe video games with multiple playable characters, different endings, etc.]] and was leaning towards considering each individual path a [[splinter timeline]]. But that's just me and nobody else ever looked at what I came up with. So. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 12:51, 14 May 2013 (EDT)
::Yeah, I've gotten the impression that no one will say anything about others' sandboxes, but might once something's actually implemented and becomes a potential problem. I agree that "splinter" is as good a term as "path", and I see now that even the splinter page could use some work; seems like [[Earthforce]] should be mentioned as the first ''possible'' splinter, setting the precedent for the other Marvel examples listed, but that was likely a touchy subject for tending to veer into endless speculation.

::Your example looked like a workable outline, but I don't know enough about different TF games to visualize in detail how it'd apply. Have there been any two TF games with continuity that retroactively makes one possible outcome the "real" ending? (non-TF ex: Mortal Kombat II stating Johnny Cage beat Goro) "Nexus" just seems like the best word for a clump of splinters that all have equal weight, continuity-wise (one game, one book).[[User:Bumblevivisector|Bumblevivisector]] 19:11, 14 May 2013 (EDT)
:::How much of the [[splinter timeline]] article is from sources? Is that term actually used? If so, I think it would be best to keep with it. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:22, 14 May 2013 (EDT)
::::Oh, I just meant that the article looked like it could use a few more examples of splinters, assuming the word was most relevant as a descriptive fan term. If it's only documenting uses of "splinter" from official sources, then forget it. As long as no one's objecting to terms I'm using in FYF books and character page subsections, I'll just keep using them until I'm done documenting the first 6 books and worry about the wiki's broader terminology later.

::::Since they're classified as "multipath adventures", I'll usually just say "path" or "outcome" to indicate that they're all viable options with the same canonical weight, since "splinter" ''could'' imply either a timeline-shifting cataclysm, or that the splinter is inferior to a "main" timeline that far more fans are familiar with, a principle which would just inject fan-judgement into these particular books. [[User:Bumblevivisector|Bumblevivisector]] 21:16, 14 May 2013 (EDT)

== Holy grails and Want list need to be more visible. ==

Judging by just how long Jake/Stingray has been on the want list, these two things need to be more visible. Many people visiting the wiki probably don't even visit the home page let alone scroll down far enough to read those two little boxes.
Would it be possible to do something like the Go! boxes for them? [[User:RavenG|RavenG]] 02:40, 14 May 2013 (EDT)

So nobody else thinks something like this would be good?[[User:RavenG|RavenG]] 08:58, 2 June 2013 (EDT)
:I think the problem is more likely that no one has the items in question than that they need to be more visible. Most of those things are very obscure. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:37, 2 June 2013 (EDT)
:: All the more reason it should be more visible. The more people that know to look for this stuff, the more chances there are of actually finding it.[[User:RavenG|RavenG]] 01:51, 5 June 2013 (EDT)
::: It's second from the top, just below the Featured Article. It's more visible than 90% of the rest of the frontpage. And finding Holy Grails is NOT more important than showcasing our good content that we actually have. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:04, 5 June 2013 (EDT)

== Seen this? ==
[http://lmb3.net/2013/04/18/3633/ More info than you ever thought you'd need about the Ziploc TFTM iron-on promotion.] This all should be wiki'd up by someone. Possibly me. 09:51, 17 May 2013 (EDT) (look at that 100 million dollar growth in the first year - that's like ''Angry Birds'' levels of success.)

== Left-hand menu ==

FOC and Prime - the Game have been and gone by now, so we can probably take them off there. It's probably a bit early to put Transformers 4 on. Maybe we could put links to the MTMTE and RID comics? Is Transformers: Legends high-profile enough that a link on the menu would be useful? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:31, 21 May 2013 (EDT)
:Anyone else have an opinion? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:34, 27 May 2013 (EDT)
::I'd be down with MTMTE and RID on the sidebar, considering the level of popularity IDW's stuff is currently enjoying in the fandom. Legends is probably high-profile enough, but our article for it ''is'' still sporting a stub template, and I'd reckon that most people looking for information on the game will end up at the specialised Wikia rather than here. Once we get closer to 2014, I'd suggest we might subsequently want Thrilling 30 (once we have a page up) and Transformers 4 on there. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 04:54, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

== Spam filter acting up ==

Japanese Wikipedia is being blocked by our spam filter. Can it be whitelisted? [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 20:42, 3 June 2013 (EDT)
:The spam filter is blocking all external links at the moment. I've given it a poke, but because of the caching we do, it may take a few hours before it comes right. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:15, 3 June 2013 (EDT)

== New Category ==

Have we considered adding a category for characters that debuted in fiction before receiving a toy? As in, no toy was in production at the time they first appeared, but it was eventually made. I've noticed the number of examples growing lately, with [[Straxus (G1)|Straxus]], [[Grindcore (G1)|Grindcore]], [[Drift (G1)|Drift]], [[Nightstalker]], [[Wipe-Out]], the Female Autobots, [[Dion]], [[Hauler]], [[Devcon]]...

Can't think of a way to phrase it, though. "Fiction First characters"? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 10:31, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
:[http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?ns14=1&search=Original&title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=Advanced+search&fulltext=Advanced+search Precedent] suggests Cat:Fiction-original characters, with Comic-original and Cartoon-original subcategories. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 11:52, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
::But there's already a Fiction-Only characters category (with Comic- and Cartoon-only subcategories). So Fiction-original would therefore encompass Comic-original and Cartoon-original sub-categories, plus a Fiction-Only subcategory with Comic- and Cartoon-only as sub-subcategories? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 21:53, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
:::Sure. That would make, e.g., [[:Category:Comic-only characters]] a (direct) subcategory of both Cat:Fiction-only and Cat:Comic-original. (NB: There are, of course, more possibilities than comic- and cartoon-. I just picked them up as the most frequent) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 23:00, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
::::I'm curious, would you include such characters as G1 Shockwave, G1 Reflector, and the casts of ''Animated'' and ''Prime''? Why or why not? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 13:54, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
:::::In Shockwave and Reflector's cases, the toy was made first despite the character actually appearing first, so it's hard to judge, but I'd be inclined not to put them in the category, although I see why others would disagree. I don't know about the ''Animated'' situation, but the ''Prime'' show was made well before any toys were, so they certainly belong there. --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 14:01, 11 June 2013 (EDT)

Yeah, I think this gets pretty hinky when you consider that to be technically correct we'd have to apply it in ''every'' instance where the fiction debuted before the toys did, regardless of whether toys were planned all along and it was just a quirk of release order.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 14:21, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
: Shouldn't it be a case of who developed it first? Dion was developed for fiction and then later turned into a toy (much later). Where a toy is designed and developed and then turns up in fiction (even if this is aired/ released before the toy is released) it was originally developed as toy. The Shockwave et al issue is easy to resolve if you forget about whether they were a transformer toy or not and focus on whether they were a toy or not. Here the character model for fiction is based on a toy, it is an artistic representation of something filtered through the necessities of the medium in which appears along with aesthetic considerations. Where a character is developped for fiction first the starting point is the characterization, personality, needs of the story etc. It is a different creative process. You have to consider if we have toy designers going for show accuracy or illustrators going for toy accuracy (or in some cases not worrying about accuracy at all). I do think the category tells us something about the creative process that has gone into each character/ toy especially where the dates on release as toy/ fiction are similar. I agree though that it could be a potential minefield and we will need source/ link information to back up which category each character would go in..... [[User:Mister Jazzz|Mister Jazz]] 14:48, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
The above is why I wanted to be clear on the wording. I'm thinking ONLY about characters who were first introduced in fiction at a time when there were no official plans to produce a toy of them...not characters whose first appearance in fiction just happened to beat their toy to release. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 15:56, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
:Because if you split hairs that fine, it becomes an increasingly meaningless distinction relative to our existing categories. A category ought to be relatively simple to apply. Ideally it should be obvious without even needing to go to the category's page to read the description.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:02, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
::It seems fairly simple to me - toys don't pop up out of nowhere, there are catalogue solicitations, ToyFairs, adverts and so forth that happen months before toys are/were released. To be "Fiction-original", the point would be to demonstrate that they weren't planned as a toy at any point around the release of the comic/etc (and we know it takes yoinks to develop a toy - diverging from actual original characters for the sake of examples - IDW Stealth Bomber Megatron and IDW muscle car Bumblebee were both fiction-original designs, and the not-quite-accurate toys took so long to develop and schedule that both announced after the IDW characters had *stopped* using those bodies! Whereas "Goldfire Bumblebee" may not have been officially announced before RiDW #18 came out, but is anyone in any doubt that the design was toy-first?) If in doubt, leave it out. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 15:01, 19 June 2013 (EDT)

== Gallery space ==

I know that the majority of this would already be covered on the fiction articles, and we want the wiki to have an organic and fun read to it, rather than being tables and lists, but would it be acceptable to add a gallery space for stuff like depicting the various designs and robot/alt mode pairs? For example, when reading about G1 Bumblebee in IDW having umpteen different designs, I kind of want to be able to see an exhaustive list pointing out each design and saying where it's from. Since this would be a separate namespace, it wouldn't clutter up the fiction articles, and might actually relieve some pressure to add a screenshot to the fiction articles just because it depicts a design or mode that no interesting screenshots had depicted.

This could also be expanded into interesting screenshots themselves, or for the Japanese series, animated gifs depicting named attacks. Something similar to [http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/Gallery:Greymon this] or [http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/Gallery:Ravemon this].

Suggestions and objections welcome, and if you guys aren't interested in this but know of a fansite that already does it, please bring it up as well, as this kind of obsessive categorizing is what I live for.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 14:55, 14 June 2013 (EDT)

== tales of the beast hunters chapter 22 sharkticon megatron ==

chapter 21 vertebreak

Chapter 22 (Sharkticon Megatron)

chapter 23 night shadow bumblebee

someone add this to tales of the beast hunters thanks {{unsigned|Jazz-meister}}
:This is copyvio, right? Don't we need to delete this?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 20:04, 14 June 2013 (EDT)
::It's not really a good place for it, no... --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:18, 14 June 2013 (EDT)

== Romanizations of purely Japanese names ==

It has come to my attention that the way this Wiki romanizes Transformer names that are purely Japanese in origin (such as for [[Shouki|Shōki]], each member of the [[Dinoforce]], the recent [[Gan'ō]], etc.) feels a bit at odds with how we also handle official name spellings. Generally speaking, we tend to go with the names that are official, and seem to only really diverge from this if there's something inherently wrong with the official spellings, right? Well, for the aforementioned examples, each of them has an official spelling of their names written in English, yet this Wiki seems to forgo those official spellings for some reason and instead opts for a different spelling of each. My question is, if we have an official spelling of a purely Japanese name, and there seems to be little-to-nothing wrong with said official spelling, then why don't we always use it?, For Shōki, for instance, we've gone with spelling his name as such despite official packaging material with his toy spelling his name as "Shouki" in English. Similar cases also apply for the Dinoforce members and Gan'ō, as well. The only exception to this I can think of that we do use is "Ginrai", whose name would be more straightforwardly Romanized as "Jinrai", but we went with "Ginrai" due to official sources spelling his name with a G. So what makes Ginrai special enough for him to use the official spelling over the straight Romanization spelling? 
Now, I'm not suggesting that we switch every single romanized purely Japanese name out of the Hepburn style that we use. On the contrary, I think we should at least continue to utilize the current Hepburn style for names that have no official spelling in English whatsoever, or at least for those who haven't had theirs revealed yet. But for those who have (Shouki, the Dinoforce, Ganoh, etc.), I ponder as to why we don't just use what is official if what's official is indeed a decently acceptable alternative to what ths Wiki uses. I mean, there is precedence in us using the official spellings since we use "Ginrai" over "Jinrai". Why, we even use "Dinoforce" when the box and fiction both clearly say "Kyoryu Sentai" (Dinosaur Squadron/Taskforce) in Japanese. So what's been stopping us from using the official names for the non-Ginrai Japanese word TF names? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 01:08, 18 June 2013 (EDT)
:Part of the problem I feel here is evokes the "Spell My Name With An S" trope, and part trying to keep the spirit of the name's original meaning. For example, "Dinoforce" from "Kyoryu Sentai" feels more... real in English, I suppose, as contrast to someone actually writing out "Dinosaur Squadron/Taskforce". "Dinoforce" has that sense of quirkiness but it still carries the meaning without loosing too much. Sometimes, the official spelling that Takara uses just seems odd ([[Mirage (G1)|Ligier]]/[[Engrish#Deliberate Engrish|Rijie]] or [[Rartorata]], anyone?), and other times the name only makes sense if you have a passable grasp of the language. (The arguments I could bring up from subbing toku. Then of course, someone else could argue about "sentai" that used in the Super Sentai series...) --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 01:52, 18 June 2013 (EDT)
::I'm fine with us using "Dinoforce". I was just pointing it out as an example of us using an official spelling over a more literal one. Same with "Ginrai" vs. "Jinrai". But, what I'm really getting at is why we use spellings like "Shōki", "Gōryū", "Gan'ō", etc. when there are official TakaraTomy spellings of these as "[http://tftechspecs.com/pics2/12668.jpg Shouki]", "[http://tftechspecs.com/pics2/12710.jpg Goryu]", [https://twitter.com/tagoal/status/345702332438302720/photo/1 Ganoh]", etc. that feel just as valid as alternatives to what we currently use. (Not to mention easier to type.) This inquiry mostly stems from the discussion on [[Talk:Gan'ō|Gan'ō's talk page]], and raises the question as to why we don't use the official spellings in cases like these when there doesn't seem to be that much, if anything at all, inherently wrong with those spellings. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 09:53, 18 June 2013 (EDT)
:::Look, there's pretty much one reason we do it this way - Interrobang's unconquerable boner for the Japanese language. He pushed for it, and the reason it wound up happening is the same reason that right now nobody is taking on this argument against it. Because '''''nobody caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaares.''''' And nobody wants to have to go through changing everything again. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:12, 18 June 2013 (EDT)
::::In other words, "Sabrblade, have at it." - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 17:27, 18 June 2013 (EDT)
:::::Basically. I should point out I pretty much NEVER see Japanese use of English letters actually involving macrons and blardeeblar. And if we can get rid of a lot of that shit on the wiki, I'll be... well, I dunno about ''happy'', but less aggravated. I am 100% in favor of using the given romanization when it's obviously not incorrect. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 13:49, 19 June 2013 (EDT)
::At least going forward, I personally support the "use the romanization given" initiative, unless it gets as bad as Minelba.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 16:13, 18 June 2013 (EDT)
::::I'm all for consistency with the Japanese packaging when it's basically the same pronunciation. -[[User:LV|LV]] 18:51, 18 June 2013 (EDT)
Very well, then. Interrobang, huh? Figures. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 00:25, 19 June 2013 (EDT)
:Erg, just hit a speedbump. Tried to move Shōki's page to "Shouki", but it won't let me. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 11:17, 19 June 2013 (EDT)
::It's because there's already a page, redirecting to Shōki. An admin will have to delete the Shouki page. --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 11:47, 19 June 2013 (EDT)
Can an admin delete the Dinoforce redirects? All of them have history, so I can't move them over. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 10:51, 20 June 2013 (EDT)
:There's still [[Būpink]], [[Pīpō]], and [[Kōmoribreast]], but I can't find any official romanizations, so I guess they stay where they are? [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 13:22, 20 June 2013 (EDT)
::Yeah, I'd say we can stick with the Hepburn style Romanizations for names/terms that haven't official been spelled in English yet (or unless there is something genuinely and inherently wrong with its English spelling).
::Also, thanks a bunch for helping out with this. I started to, but I got stuck when the redirects needed to be deleted first, and then came the TF: The Ride grand opening in Orlando that I was in attendance of, which took a lot of my time away from the Internet. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 20:29, 21 June 2013 (EDT)
:::No problem. Happy to help. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 22:31, 21 June 2013 (EDT)
Should real people be included in this? According to the talk page, [[Yūki Ōshima]] is generally credited as Yuki Ohshima. --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 06:29, 25 June 2013 (EDT)
:I should think so. I know he's not relevant to our wiki, but [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuhiro_Nightow Yasuhiro Nightow] is pretty specific about his name's Romanization, and I'd think there would be other people who had put thought into it. -[[User:LV|LV]] 09:28, 25 June 2013 (EDT)
::I'd say that, if there are real Japanese people who have their names spelled a particular way officially (in English letters), then by all means, let us reflect that. If they don't, however, we can just keep them in the Hepburn style. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 12:49, 25 June 2013 (EDT)
:The [[Yuki Ohshima]] page already exists... can someone remove it, please? --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 09:41, 28 June 2013 (EDT)
::[[Yuki Ohshima]] is still there. Also, [[Shaoshao Li (KP)|Shaoshao Li]] is officially spelt "Syaosyao Li", so we should probably treat her the way we treat the Japanese ones to be consistent. --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 05:59, 1 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Deleted! There's a {{tl|tobedeleted}} template you can put on pages, BTW. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 07:11, 1 August 2013 (EDT)
::::Thanks, I didn't know! --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 07:37, 1 August 2013 (EDT)
:::::No problem. I think there should probably be some debate before moving Shaoshao as I get the impression from the talk page that it's another Minelba type situation possibly? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:26, 1 August 2013 (EDT)
::::::It is, and the page went through a LOT of romanization revisions before we settled on where it is now. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 17:04, 1 August 2013 (EDT)

== DuckDuckGo ==

Could whoever-has-FTP-access unblock [https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckbot DuckDuckBot] in http://tfwiki.net/robots.txt, please. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 13:59, 22 June 2013 (EDT)

== Robot ==

I was quite surprised to see we don't have an article about robots in general! There are robots other than Cybertronians in ''Transformers'', both man-made and natural lifeforms. We probably should have an article summing up the different types - after all, we do have an article on [[alien]]s. --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 09:42, 28 June 2013 (EDT)

== Archives ==

Do we have a way of searching the archives, other than just manually opening them and looking through each and every one? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:53, 2 July 2013 (EDT)
:You can restrict a search to the "Transformers Wiki talk" namespace, which usually works for me. At one point we had a form to do it at the top of this page. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:54, 2 July 2013 (EDT)

== Disambiguation pages and parsing ==

If the names on a disambiguation page differ in parsing, should the page name follow the initial use or the most common use? See [[Heavytread (disambiguation)]] and [[Knockout (disambiguation)]] for examples. The first case is at the most common form while the second is at the first used form. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:54, 3 July 2013 (EDT)
:There is [[Help:Disambiguation#Disambiguation pages|no policy]] that I can find. I would say it makes little difference, unless one of the forms was well recognized and the other was super obscure. Otherwise it is six of one, half dozen of the other. Not worth moving pages over. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:41, 3 July 2013 (EDT)
::I would agree it doesn't make much difference. Most of the time people are going to arrive there via redirection from a link whose text has the parsing that they're looking for. Only we Wiki editors are likely to go straight to a disambig and we already know what the other parsings are. I don't think the parsing is going to hinder anyone in trying to find the page. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 21:00, 3 July 2013 (EDT)

== Wiki content used in official materials, again. ==
So ''Transformers Legends'' just put out a Doctor Arkeville card, and the character bio is a truncated version of the Wiki introduction. "DR. ARKEVILLE is a self-proclaimed evil genius who often allies himself with the DECEPTICONS. Like all mad scientists, he has designs to rule the planet Earth.... however, his success rate is sorely lacking." It doesn't MATTER or anything, but it seemed strangely familiar. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 09:13, 9 July 2013 (EDT)
:Derik checked a while back and found a whole ton of the Legends bios were copied from here.[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=83287&view=findpost&p=2310050] I think the conclusion was we weren't going to worry about it too much. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:18, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

== Sizes ==

I brought this up on the [[Talk:Scale|scale talk page]] but got no response. Basically, for a wiki that tries to include as much as possible, tfwiki doesn't really address the sizes of the toys. For someone who's never actually bought any toys, terms like "Deluxe" and "Mega", or "Small Headmaster" and "Large Headmaster", or "Autobot Car" and "Mini Vehicle", aren't useful for telling how tall the toys actually are. Pretty much the only place this is addressed is the pages for the original Fort Max and the new Metroplex, which actually have numbers (22" and 24"), and seem to be the only place on the wiki where this is addressed, despite articles on both [[Scale]] and [[Size class]]. --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 11:00, 10 July 2013 (EDT)
:I don't think an "average size" has ever been calculated for a deluxe. Look at the current Beast Hunters line, Starscream is quite a bit smaller than Ripclaw. As far as I know, size classes aren't really about the size of the toy but of the ''packaging''. Any deluxe figures should fit in the same shelf/peg space as any other. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:22, 10 July 2013 (EDT)
::That way lies madness. There's been enough fandom beardwringing about "shrinking/growing deluxes" for a lifetime. Let's not fall into that trap. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 13:40, 10 July 2013 (EDT)
::Khajidha, that's the sort of thing I'm talking about. Nothing on the wiki actually indicates how tall any of these toys are. You mention ''Beast Hunters'' Starscream, but all it says on his page is that that toy is "shorter than his First Edition toy". As far as I'm concerned, he could be anything from a couple of inches to over a foot! Everything just seems to be described in terms of other toys - as another example, the original Omnibots are only described as being "shorter than Autobot Cars". I'm not asking for a true average size - just enough to have some point of reference. --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 14:25, 10 July 2013 (EDT)
:::I think actual measuements would be useful. You would need to standardise what you measure (i.e. from the feet to the top of the head or to the highest point on the toy - not always the same, and determine whether this included any removable weapons/ accesories). We should probably limit the amount of info to stop it turning into an unnecessarily long list (you don't need height to head, shoulders and cannon where these are progressively taller for example). I'd also like to see both metric and imperial measurements, it's odd that the only system we seem to have is in imperial when metric would make more sense to me, I suppose both is better than choosing one or the other. It's a mammoth task though and I'm not sure it could ever be completed. If we start we will have to live with a degree on inconsistency. [[User:Mister Jazzz|Mister Jazz]] 13:54, 17 July 2013 (EDT)
:So, what if you can stretch their arms up in the air, or they can hold accessories in an unmarked position (maybe on their back?)
:Eh...I think it would be, at best, reasonable to measure them with no accessories in the pose depicted in the instructions.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 16:15, 17 July 2013 (EDT)
:: Ok, I've added height info for [[Prowl (G1)/toys| Prowl]]. I'm not going to add any more yet until I get some feedback on whether the format I've used is acceptable. What do you guys think? [[User:Mister Jazzz|Mister Jazz]] 09:30, 23 July 2013 (EDT)
:::I think that if this is to go forward, that the length of the altmode is of more interest than its height in most cases. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:43, 23 July 2013 (EDT)
Figuring out the format should be done on a delete-able "sandbox" page rather than on a "live" one. And honestly, I'm still unsold on the usefulness of the info. But I'll humor for now... 
:* ''Dimensions'': ??in / ??cm (robot height), ??in / ??cm (vehicle length) 
This does bring up the question of how many dimensions to measure, and how to non-clunkily add it. It kind of feels like if you're going to actually put a numbered measurement down, just picking ONE dimension is insufficient... or to put it another way, you halfassed the job. Go full height/width/depth or go home. Toys with multiple altmodes present bigger problems of readability; the more numbers, the more boring a morass the entry becomes. (THIS kind of thing is why you sandbox format changes rather than put them on live pages.) --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:57, 23 July 2013 (EDT)
:Ok but halfassed is a bit harsh, three quartersassed perhaps... I'm not sure about sandboxing so for Prowl
''Dimensions'': 10.5 cm/ 4⅛ in (robot height), 11.3cm/ 4⅜ in (vehicle length)
As for the reason to do it we can't assume everyone visiting the Wiki is a Transformers expert, you or I might understand 'about the same size as the 1984 Autobot Cars' but not every visitor will. The casual fan or even parent looking for information regarding what present to buy a child might really appreciate this. You also have to consider that the secondary market is now huge and this info isn't always present, you would expect this wiki to be able to fill in that gap. As a public service information provider we have to consider that not everyone has our background knowledge and be just as informative to the novice as we are to the expert, otherwise we are in danger of becoming a jargonistic clique who only provide for ourselves. In the same way I think we should also add difficulty rating as stated on the box (where present). If you consider the potential audience in its entirity I think the case for size information is obvious. [[User:Mister Jazzz|Mister Jazz]] 08:30, 24 July 2013 (EDT)
::In that case, why not just do weight? It's not going to be changed by altmode, it's easy to measure, and you'd have a reasonable idea of scale from the weight; besides, the precision of exact size isn't really going to matter unless you're putting it in a display case, and in that case you're almost certainly a collector who understands size classes. Casual fans or parents just looking for a toy to play with aren't going to need precise measurements of size.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 08:44, 24 July 2013 (EDT)
:::Weight would vary too much due to the density of the materials. A mostly diecast figure may have the same mass as a MUCH larger modern figure with the thin plastic panels they use now. Robot height and altmode length are probably the most relevant measures for most figures. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:30, 24 July 2013 (EDT)
::::Yeah, weight is definitely not a thing we need to measure. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:54, 24 July 2013 (EDT)
::Any non-TF-fan parent looking to our wiki for toy purchasing information is already well and truly fucked. We really ''aren't'' a good resource for casual kid-toy purchase information for non-fans at all... I mean, just look at Movie Bumblebee's toy page. What parent is gonna wanna dig through all that to find their kid's birthday toy? (Never mind that the toy information is one of the ''last'' things we present; we handle their fiction first.) That demographic is gonna go to TRU's website and see what's available now, assuming they web-shop that way at all. And as pointed out, they most certainly aren't going to need precise measurements.
:: For "casual" fans, I think they have enough prior experience with toys to know the rough sizes most TFs fall under per given class (standard largish action figure range is the most common). For the more advanced fan who might conceivably need dimensions... then yes, width and depth are as relevant as height, if not moreso. Height doesn't play into stuffing robot-mode guys onto a display shelf anywhere as much as how much horizontal space a toy takes up... and frankly numbers are nothing next to just plain old physical trial-and-error on that score.
::As for difficulty ratings... that's a whole other can of worms. Hasbro's own ratings are horsehockey; they rated conversions mostly by size-class, not actual difficulty. At this point, that's basically giving out ''mis''information. And giving subjective difficulty ratings... less than ideal. Some people ''don't'' find RiD Side Burn or the Alternators unfun morasses of panel-massaging.
::And as for "jargonistic clique who only provide for ourselves"... you do know what site you're on, don't you? This is akin to accusing TVtropes of not being a good resource for people who want to get into a TV show they've not seen but have heard about. We are, ultimately, not a resource for people who kinda sorta maybe think Transformers are okay, but for people keen on digging into the guts of the franchise, the nitty-gritty, the obscure, the corners not often seen. We are very much a metaphorical rabbit hole; by design and intent we run far deeper than anyone on the outside would need. And yes, sometimes we DON'T provide info by choice... like the exact box-back bios and tech-spec numbers, but we DO provide links to places that you can get those if you really want them. The latter we don't provide because we could find no non-clunky-and-horrible way to present said info, which is very much a problem with measurements... which brings us back to the start. We'd pretty much have to provide ''all'' relevant dimensions to be of actual use to the people who'd conceivably need that kind of information, and presenting that in a way that's not clunky is a major issue. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:54, 24 July 2013 (EDT)
Possibility? When photographing TFs (or accessories or merchandise, such as statues, [[Robot Heroes]], [[Attacktix]], or [[Movie board and card games|board games/pieces]]), include a ruler or measuring stick in the photo, or if one isn't handy, photograph the item in or next to your open palm. (In your palm if it's obviously smaller than your hand, next to your palm if it's nearly the size of your hand or larger, and zoom out far enough that your whole hand is in the picture.) Doesn't provide all the dimensions (unless you use multiple rulers simultaneously or take multiple photos) and only addresses one mode (unless you have duplicate figures photographed together or take multiple photos), but it's an easy-to-understand frame of reference, and other measurements can be approximated.

When no photos are available, or when we already have photos which do not include rulers or anything, i have no objection to the inclusion of text giving the length, width, and/or height for any, all, or none of the TF toys/merchandise on this site. If someone wants to know, and the information is there, great! If the information there is presented in a clunky way, odds are it's still better than nothing for anyone curious, and odds are it's still brief enough for the uninterested to ignore. Anyone who thinks the presentation of the info is too clunky can reformat it, and anyone who thinks the revision is still too clunky can refine it further, until we arrive at an elegant format we can standardize. And if the information is not there at all, well, that's what we have now--an incomplete database which will never be complete as long as Hasbro/TakaraTomy keeps making Transformers, but an incomplete database which contains A) plenty of other interesting tidbits to read about and B) plenty of opportunities for contributors to add what they can.

For the record, sometimes i see photos of TF figures online, and am surprised by how small/large the actual figures are when i eventually see them in person for the first time--even if i own other figures of the same size class (like 1984 Autobot cars, or Legends class figures). Do i need to know beforehand how big a figure is? Probably not. But i may be curious anyhow, and if it pleases someone to satisfy my curiosity, whom does it hurt?

--[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 13:09, 5 December 2013 (EST)

we are not going to photograph toys in the palms of hands --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 16:23, 5 December 2013 (EST)

:Holy [[Wikipedia:Cowcatcher|cowcatchers]], [[Ratbat (SG)|Batbot]]--it's Walky! Forgive me for being flustered, but i've long thought of you as something of a Transformers [[Legends (disambiguation)|legend]]. (Is that the same as saying you've got [[Legends Class|class]]?) i envy your artistic capability and productivity, admire your dedication to Transformers lore and collecting, and further envy that your art/writing has elevated you beyond the "caste" of mere fandom into the "council" of official TF writers/artists whose works can become canon. And if you think i'm just kissing your aft, well, i should admit that i'm trying very hard to get on your good side right now as i am a little intimidated by how hard i've seen you come down on people whose opinions differ from yours.
:That being said, you seem to be opposed to using images of toys in/alongside a Human hand as a size reference; have you anything to say about the photographing toys alongside measuring sticks? Also, are you so opposed to hands being used to show scale that you would remove such images if others post them?
:(i ask only hypothetically; the only camera i can claim at this time is a G1 Reflector.)
:--[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 03:42, 6 December 2013 (EST)
::Aside from the sheer ugliness of having hands or rulers in the photo, you would need to have separate scales for each mode so that it is clear that none of the individual images has been reduced or enlarged relative to the others before combining them. `--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 09:16, 6 December 2013 (EST)

== Foreign Localization placement - again!!! ==

Said it on the page for the 1984 cartoon, will say it again here: the Foreign Localization section for cartoon episodes needs to go at the very bottom. It makes no sense to go from factoids (notes, etc.) to a list of names, then back to factoids (Trivia). Disrupts the flow of the page, buries the trivia, looks bad. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 17:51, 16 July 2013 (EDT)
:I've had this thought a couple of times. It seems like it would be more naturally placed below Trivia with the home video releases. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:41, 21 July 2013 (EDT)

== Some Transformer Knock-off cartoon ==

We have some Transformer-Knock-off cartoon made by china ( Not a big deal huh how about they use that cartoon charracter toy make them loke idiot cut and turn it into "Transformer Gobot Toyline )
Here the Final Episode
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI5fXIJY5_U

To Story:

Some stupid kid play games about Transoformer and get sucked into the game world who Transoformer get seperate into 2 side Animal ( Deceticon ) and Vehicle ( Autobot )

Vehicle: With 6 Clan Car,Police Car,Hellicopter,Bulldozer,Jeep ( They are Extinct only the stongest guy alive ),Jet and one extra Bike ( Only One ) ( Clan i mean they Fucking look like the Same Fucking Guy only the Officer on specific clan have different Color that mean they use the Same Fucking Model to make Hundred Guy )

Animal: Only 3 : Jaguar,Gorilla ( Only the leader the infanry are Rat but they look like the mech from Battle Tech Series ) and Dragon

== Korean, not Indonesian ==

The Indonesian foreign names of many of the Transformers are written in Korean. Why? They use a completely different script. I can't distinguish whether someone just phoneticized Indonesian names and have written them in Korean, or if they're Korean names and someone just mislabeled them as Indonesian. (I think I see examples of both, although I only have a passing familiarity with Indonesian so I'm not sure.) --[[User:Noviere|Noviere]] 14:23, 18 July 2013 (EDT)
:The one that you changed was added by Andreanromanky18, I guess we should review all of the others that he/she has added. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:43, 18 July 2013 (EDT)
::[http://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimlock Indonesia Wikipedia] shows most of the characters have the same name as they do in English. [http://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%ED%8A%B8%EB%9E%9C%EC%8A%A4%ED%8F%AC%EB%A8%B8_%EB%8D%94_%EB%AC%B4%EB%B9%84 Korean Wikipedia] had Grimlock's name written differently. Hrm. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:36, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

== Grouping American/Japanese divergent fiction ==

I'm trying to standardize the G1 cartoon fiction sections, particularly when characters have both American and Japanese histories. For larger characters like [[Kup (G1)#Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Kup]] we have a big "''Generation 1 cartoon continuity''" masthead, with "''The Transformers cartoon''" underneath, some micro-continuities, and "''Japanese cartoon continuity''", which has its own sub-sections. On the other hand, we've got [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] with a "G1cc" heading, and all the Japanese sections as equal to "''The Transformers cartoon''" instead of under a "Jcc" header. I think Hound should have (1st tier) "G1cc", (2nd) "''The Transformers cartoon''" & "Jcc", (3rd) the various Japanese fictions.

There's also some discrepancies between characters that only appeared after [[The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2|TROOP]], where American and Japanese continuity completely diverged. [[Pointblank]] has a "G1cc" header that includes "''The Transformers cartoon''" and "''The Headmasters cartoon''". [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]], however, has "''The Transformers cartoon''" (and Wings as a sub-section) completely separated from the "''Japanese cartoon continuity''". I think a "G1cc" is preferable, since the stories flowing forward from ''The Rebirth'' or ''Transformers: The Headmasters'' do share the same underlying backstory.

Finally, there are characters that have only appeared in Japanese and American cartoon micro-continuities. [[Roadblock (G2)|Roadblock]] has appeared in America's Wingsverse and Japan's ''United EX'' fiction. Both of these continuities come from the original cartoon, as "add-ons", but there's nothing to indicate that in the way they're grouped under his fiction section. I think characters like Roadblock, Rapido, etc. should have their Wings/United EX sections grouped together, with a note of some kind explaining the connection.

Anyway, I wanted to bring this up here before I started sweeping through the G1 sections. Preferences one way or another? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 08:56, 23 July 2013 (EDT)
:I don't think character pages should concern themselves with continuity beyond the characters themselves. ''Headmasters'' Chromedome has absolutely no connection to Rebirth Chromedome in any way and putting them under the same section is deceptive. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 22:15, 24 July 2013 (EDT)
::The problem with that is that a casual reader of the page may not know the connection between the US and Japan cartoons. Whichever way it's written, it will be clear that Chromedome was introduced separately in both the US and Japanese cartoons - however, grouping the two together would signify that, despite the difference in the portrayal of the character, these are two similar universes, as opposed to the fairly different Marvel universe or the radically different IDW universe. I don't like it when the wiki assumes too much prior knowledge on the part of the reader - just because ''we'' know the story behind the Rebirth/Headmasters timeline split, someone who only knows Chromedome from the IDW comics may not be as aware, and wiki articles should above all aim to be informative. --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 03:26, 25 July 2013 (EDT)
:::I don't see why that's the responsibility of character pages or how that would enlighten them instead of making them think there's a linear chronology for the character when there isn't one. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 11:00, 25 July 2013 (EDT)
::::The point I'm trying to make is that, assuming the article is written clearly, there would be no confusion as to whether there is a linear chronology, as the sections would be labelled "US continuity" and "Japanese continuity" or something similar - so as long as we've made that clear, we might as well point out that these two separate timelines were once the same timeline, but branched off before this character was introduced, so as not to give the impression of a completely separate "Japanese cartoon continuity" that is unrelated to the US one, unlike the actual situation which has a split timeline. Looking at Chromedome's page, both the Rebirth section and the Headmasters section mention Galvatron, but the page as written gives no indication that both "versions" of Galvatron, unlike the two Chromedomes, experienced exactly the same events for a while before Chromedome appeared - if Chromedome's page was the first page I ever read on the wiki, I would conclude that the Headmasters series was as unrelated to the US series as it is to the IDW comics. Grouping the two together would prevent any such misunderstandings without going into too much detail, and the reader could then consult the page about the Headmasters series if they want a full explanation. --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 11:19, 25 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::That was my concern. There could even be an opening note on the subject, like:
:::::{{note|The underlying history for American and Japanese G1 cartoon continuity is the first 95 episodes of the Sunbow cartoon, before splitting in two directions. Chromedome first appeared in the cartoon continuity after the split occurred, with two distinct histories.}}
:::::--[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 11:53, 25 July 2013 (EDT)
::::::The Marvel comic sections are already drowned in obnoxious continuity notes. Do we really need to do the same to the cartoon sections? [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 15:52, 25 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::::I'm confused -- how are you making "being informed" sound like a negative? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 17:56, 25 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::::I'd rather have "obnoxious" continuity notes than a confusing article. --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 17:17, 25 July 2013 (EDT)

== New templates ==

[[Template:Nihongo]], same one as used on wikipedia.

Also, I had a suggestion for a [[Template:L]] (I forgot to get approval the first time) that would simplify the coding for any article with a parser from <nowiki>[[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus]]</nowiki> to <nowiki>{{l|Optimus Prime|WFC|Optimus}}</nowiki>, and <nowiki>[[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]]</nowiki> to <nowiki>{{l|Optimus Prime|WFC}}</nowiki>.

Thoughts?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 11:51, 25 July 2013 (EDT)
:I really don't see the need for a link template like that. It increases the learning curve to edit the wiki in exchange for a only a slight saving of characters. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:37, 25 July 2013 (EDT)
:No. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 14:07, 25 July 2013 (EDT)
::Like Khajidha said, it's a solution that solves nothing in particular. Not everything needs to be relegated to templates. (I'm looking right at that awful Comicstory template.) [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 15:49, 25 July 2013 (EDT)

:Regarding the Nihongo template, I wonder if there's somewhere more useful we can point the question mark thingy at the end rather than a Wikipedia page with general Japanese info and WP-specific stuff for dealing with Japanese, though I'm not sure if we have a relevant help page (perhaps this is a sign we need one). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:03, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

== trying to find a template ==

I believe the subarticle [[2006/toys]], and the like, used to have a template pointing back to the year at the top of the article, but I can't seem to find that template. Does anyone know what it should be? Also, should these subarticles have a category? Thanks. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 10:23, 15 August 2013 (EDT)
:I don't think "2006/toys" is meant to be viewed on its own. It exists for some organizational reason or another. Its content is automatically put on the [[2006]] page. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:05, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
::They can come up when you use the random page function though, like the suite pages do. As for the uplink, that wasn't a template, it was a [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Subpages subpages setting]. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:46, 21 August 2013 (EDT)

=="Thin gray line" template for splitting sub-sections visually==
Okay, this kinda hit me while working on [[Glit (KP)|Glit]]'s page... look at that fiction section. How can you tell where one one continuity ends and another begins at a glance? It's kind of a mess. The size differences between the subheader text is almost negligible. And Glit isn't even the most complex fiction section we got. The more subheadings we add to a section, and the loner those entries get, the worse it gets. 
Testing things out, I tried the "<nowiki>----</nowiki>" template, which puts a thin dividing line across the page. It works well as a visual separation, but the line itself is too dark. Can we either change the template so the line is, say, %50 gray (making it subtle but still noticeable and not confusing with the main subheader line breaks), or make a new template that does this function? This would be put between major subheadings; in this case, over the "IDW" and "Classics" headers. This might also be nice for Toy sections. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 03:14, 28 August 2013 (EDT)
:I suggested that like three or four years ago and got yelled at by everybody. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:17, 28 August 2013 (EDT)
::I would support it.
::I think it'd be a bit of a mess for characters around, say the marvel G1 stuff with its multiple branches... but definately worth it in the end. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:17, 12 October 2013 (EDT)
:::I can dig it. Honestly, I've used solid black lines to divide continuity clusters in a few huge articles myself already. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 16:35, 12 October 2013 (EDT)
:::Well, I don't think we'd put the line between the Marvel G1 sub-sections since they're all part of the same "branch". But between Marvel and IDW? Oh yeah. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:44, 12 October 2013 (EDT)
::::I raise the idea of solid black lines between Mrvel and IDW and gray lines between branches.
::::Does McFeely have an example of an article with a solid black line? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:11, 12 October 2013 (EDT)
:::::The trouble there is "solid black" already denotes the spit between MAJOR headers, like "Fiction" and "Toys". Gray is a "soft separator"; a visible marking, but not as STOP WE ARE MOVING TO AN ENTIRELY NEW SUBJECT as solid black. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 17:24, 12 October 2013 (EDT)
::::::Yeah, that's an accurate assessment. Re Derik's question, I know it I did it on [[Matrix of Leadership]] and [[Transwarp]], I might've done it on some others but I honestly forget at this point. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 17:52, 12 October 2013 (EDT)
:::::::To follow up, I don't think we need a soft-line break between EVERY sub-header. I think that under, say, the Marvel G1 continuity clump, a header is enough to denote "here's where continuity may jump/branch so just a heads-up". The line better notes an out-and-out break where what came before had no ties to what comes after... jsut with the gray, we're still staying in the same ballpark of "Fiction" (or possibly even "Toys"). --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 18:51, 12 October 2013 (EDT)
::::::::We'd use a different visual obviously...
::::::::I'm going to dinner but I'll do some mockups later so you call can go "Hell no, I hate that, are you crazy?!" and we'll get a better idea of what we ''don't'' want, and can maybe figure out something useful. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:28, 12 October 2013 (EDT)
::::::::(Unrelated: I think I know what cluster Bot-Shots goes in.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:28, 12 October 2013 (EDT)

== Disambiguation suffixes ==

I would like to propose two modifications of our disambiguation style, both of which merely codify principles that we already seem to follow. First, I propose that franchise of origin disambiguation suffixes be limited specifically to characters, not places or things. Second, I propose that characters from external properties should never be given Transformers franchise disambiguations, but should always use tags appropriate to the external property. The first rule underlies the logic behind the recent move of [[Tyrest (Autobot)]] to [[Tyrest (G1)]] despite the presence of [[Tyrest (polity)]], which also originated in G1. The second is why [[Roadblock (G1)]] can be at that location despite the existence of [[Roadblock (G.I. Joe)]], whose first TF appearance was during G1. As these examples demonstrate, we are already actually doing this, we just don’t explain it very well. If there are no objections, I intend to clarify [[Help:Disambiguation]] with notes about these principles. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:42, 2 September 2013 (EDT)
:We don't strictly follow that first rule - see the various "Great War" pages, for example. --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 14:26, 2 September 2013 (EDT)
::Plus there's [[Ark (G1)]], [[Ark (Movie)]], etc. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:22, 3 September 2013 (EDT)

:The one that always gets me is "(TF 2010)". [[Lugnut (TF 2010)]] is treated as G1, most of the others (e.g., [[Override (TF 2010)]], [[Terradive (TF 2010)]], [[Highbrow (TF 2010)]]) are treated as movieverse (oh, and the Mini-Cons just say "who knows"). The word is DISambiguation, people - G1 characters and movieverse characters should not share a disambig tag. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 23:48, 2 September 2013 (EDT)
::The (TF 2010) toys are disambiged by franchise. That toyline contained toys representing characters from more than one continuity. Lugnut was part of that line's Reveal the Shield subline imprint, which is when the line switched from a mostly Movieverse toyline to a mostly G1-based/Classics-style toyline. The end result of the characters you mentioned all sharing the same disambig despite being in separate continuities is due to the unfortunate nature of that franchise spanning more than one continuity. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 00:19, 3 September 2013 (EDT)
:::I know all that and don't really care, because the end result is a broken disambig model that only works for rules lawyers. [Note that (Timelines) as a disambig is avoided '''for this very reason'''.] - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 01:19, 3 September 2013 (EDT)
::::I love it when people tell me they don't care how the wiki chooses to disambiguate things. It makes me super want to talk with them further about these issues. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:23, 3 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::You never talk ''with'' people on the public internet anyway. You talk ''at'' them.
:::::As for the subject... disambiguating by franchise may be a great plan (mileages may vary - I think it works only in the simplest cases), but it completely breaks in contact with a multi-continuity franchise. [And is more than a bit wibbly in the case of stuff like toys designed to match pre-existing High Moon WfC/FoC designs being listed only as "repurposes" in those articles because of ''later'' material.] - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 02:30, 3 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::Ultimately I don't think TF2010 is big enough of a franchise for it to be bothered breaking into tiny pieces. It's got eight new characters in it. It's not like Timelines, which spans years and years and multiple continuities. It's not a Big Deal enough to make a mess within the existing rules. It's nowhere near a quagmire. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:45, 3 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::Also also, the reason Timelines is better split up is because due to its nature of also containing Shattered Glass and fifteen different permutations of many popular character names, disambiguating within it is pretty pointless anyway. Starscream (Timelines) would refer to which guy, exactly? The MW clone? The TransTech guy? The Shattered Glass version? Timelines breaks itself within our established rules. TF2010 absolutely does not, no matter how much you individually think having G1 and Movie guys in the same disambig is wrong. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:53, 3 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::How is a disambig tag in any way related to how toys are listed on pages? I mean, unless you are legitimately suggesting that instead of disambiguating by franchise, we put all Thundercrackers ever on the same page, I cannot understand the connection here. -[[User:LV|LV]] 02:50, 3 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::It isn't, really, I jumped a track there [posting while insomniac and cranky is never advisable]. It just offends my sense of chronology to see the guy ''the design originated for'' listed as a "repurpose" rather than just listing the thing on both pages equally. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 03:07, 3 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::::Which... we DO. List on both pages. See: lots of Shattered Glass character pages. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 03:10, 3 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::::It's listed, but [[Thundercracker_(WFC)#Generations|with a particularly silly note]] given that WfC Thundercracker is the original design. There's a difference between Shattered Glass using a toy that existed years before SG did as an entirely different character (e.g., SG Ravage from Glit), which is repurposing, and listing the ''original'' as a "repurpose". - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 03:44, 3 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::::::Yeah, that happens not infrequently, like with Megabolt Megatron. It doesn't bother me. This wiki reports what actually happens, not what we wish would happen. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:11, 3 September 2013 (EDT)
Hmm. Seems I overlooked a few things about franchise identifications on non-character articles. It still seems that characters take priority over non-characters (per the Tyrest example I gave), but it isn't quite as strict a rule as I thought. Is there any dispute over the external properties point? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:41, 3 September 2013 (EDT)
: I don't think so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:08, 3 September 2013 (EDT)

Added an external properties note to [[Help:Disambiguation]]. Feel free to modify it if it seems warranted. Also, do we want to go at least as far as saying that if a character and a non-character from the same franchise need disambiguating that the character can retain the franchise parenthetical while the non-character gets something different? Basically saying that the characters get dibs on franchise tags. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:50, 7 September 2013 (EDT)

== Stub Templates ==

Okay, so at this point I think I should change my username to "Stubtemplatesix"...so before I go looking through the stub category, are there any other stub templates that people want made? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 16:21, 11 October 2013 (EDT)

==From the Marvel Comics portion of the Generation 1 continuity family==
So I've been doing a bit of work with the Comic-only characters lately and I've noticed that while we have "from the Hearts of Steel portion of the G1 continuity family" and "from the IDW portion of the G1 continuity family" at the top of various characters' pages, all of the "from the Marvel Comics portion"s seem to have disappeared. Was there a purge of these? Do we not do them any more? Is there a good reason why not? Cheers --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 11:15, 28 October 2013 (EDT)
:There are some "from the Marvel portion..."s. I suspect it's more a case of "they were never added" than "they were removed". - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 13:01, 28 October 2013 (EDT)
::Okay, just making sure I'm not stepping on any toes if I start adding them --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 13:47, 28 October 2013 (EDT)
:::Well, I added a lot of the "IDW portion"s myself, so...
:::One thing - "portion" should be included in the link (<nowiki>[[Marvel Comics continuity|Marvel portion]] or [[Marvel Comics continuity|Marvel Comics portion]]</nowiki>) to distinguish from links to <nowiki>[[Marvel Comics]]</nowiki>. [I tend to prefer the former, since RG1, Classics and Fleetway are MCC splinters without being published by Marvel Comics.] - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 16:35, 28 October 2013 (EDT)

== The AllSpark and the Allspark ==

At the end of the Predacons Rising movie, after Optimus tells the others of how he had to put the energy of the [[AllSpark]] into the Matrix of Leadership, thus rendering his spark incapable of separating from the multitude of others, Ratchet asks him "Are you telling us... that you are now... one with the AllSpark?!" Smokescreen answers with "That's what you say when someone kicks the..." and all proceeding dialogue and action pertain to that meaning that Optimus is on his way to die and go into the afterlife. BUT, up until now, all instances of the term "AllSpark" have been used to refer to the life-granting thing on the physical plane of reality, while the afterlife has been referred to (by us fans) as the "[[Allspark|All'''''s'''''park]]" (lowercase S), as a means to differentiate the two (since the afterlife dimension first introduced in Beast Machines and the life-granting cube first seen in the movies were hardly the same thing at the time). Like, a TF who's dead is one who is "one with the Allspark." 
But now, with the use of the phrase "[being] one with the AllSpark" in this scene, it seems to strongly suggest that the term related to source of Cybertronian life and the term related to the Cybertronian afterlife are now considered to be one concept containing all of the aspects of Cybertronian life, birth, death, and afterlife. And if such is now the case, does this call for a massive re-merging of the two separate articles with some McFeely-levels of rewriting? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 00:45, 29 October 2013 (EDT)
:I'll just say I happen to be working on something already that pertains to this. But that that also seems like an overly specific reading of the dialogue on your part when it could just as easily mean the same thing it's always meant up until now (that the energy-AllSpark of ''Prime'' is, like all other AllSparks, merely a means of accessing the afterlife, rather than some physical manifestation of the afterlife in the material plane, and that Prime merely "became one" with it in an overly literal way that is not the norm that happened to poetically mirror the normal meaning of the expression), and that such a vague foundation is not one to justify a merging of the articles on. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 06:06, 29 October 2013 (EDT)
::Well, how many times has the phrase "[being] one with the Allspark" been used to refer to the Uppercase S life-giving concept of the physical plane instead of the lowercase S afterlife concept that it originally referred to? I highly (and sadly) doubt the folks at Hasbro bother to think of the two terms as referring to separate things like we fans do. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 11:25, 29 October 2013 (EDT)
:::I've never made the distinction as it has always been obvious to me that Hasbro didn't. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:23, 29 October 2013 (EDT)
::::It's a vague distinction anyway. It's basically the same as all those times in the G1 cartoon that characters professed to be "joining the Matrix" or "entering the Matrix", or the time Rampage told Silverbolt it was "time to go back to the Matrix" at a time when the writers envisioned the Matrix as a protoform production facility. Characters in-universe talk a fair bit about returning to or becoming one with the object that spawned them; ''Beast Machines'' and subsequent work built on what that show did just lets us know there's more to it than that, without invalidating that sentiment either. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:29, 29 October 2013 (EDT)
:I had to reread this several times to even understand what your concern was. Suffice it to say that I don't view this dialogue as changing anything we knew about either concept. -[[User:LV|LV]] 13:37, 29 October 2013 (EDT)
:::::In that case, I now ask why we split the two in the first place back when the Cube info was being put on the afterlife dimension's page if the distinction is so vague as to be nonexistent/unnecessary. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 14:07, 29 October 2013 (EDT)
::::::The Allspark is only one name for the afterlife. You could just as easily phrase your question "Why aren't the Matrix of Leadership and the Matrix dimension on the same page?" because that's exactly the same notion. And you wouldn't do that, now would you? Like I said, though, I'm gearing up to do some stuff with the Allspark article, which chiefly includes moving it to "Transformer afterlife" to separate out and better explain these distinctions and problems. I think it's the last major cross-universal meta-concept left after the Matrix, Energon and Transwarp, and the sparseness of the current article annoys me because, given how the Wiki is slowly but surely becoming a major resource consulted by the people creating the fiction, a thorough detailing of it can help mitigate ''exactly this sort of confusion'' in the future. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]]
:::::::But wasn't the term "Allspark" created specifically to refer to the afterlife? To clarify that "the Matrix" was just its nickname and not meant to refer to the Matrix of Leadership? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 20:19, 29 October 2013 (EDT)

== Wiki update issues ==

The recent wiki update seems to have affected the <nowiki>{{--}}</nowiki> template, in that it [[Ironhide (BS)|doesn't seem to work anymore.]] <nowiki>{{-}}</nowiki> seems to work, though. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 21:39, 9 November 2013 (EST)
:I see the problem. Mediawiki doesn't use a name tags for anchors any more. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:04, 9 November 2013 (EST)
::And it's fixed. Thanks. :-) --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 22:13, 9 November 2013 (EST)

Also, I noticed that the galleries [[Homage|aren't bordered anymore.]] --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] ([[User talk:Inkblot|talk]]) 01:39, 11 November 2013 (EST)
:That actually appears to be an intentional change. If I use the gallery tag on Wikipedia, the gallery doesn't have a border either. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 02:25, 11 November 2013 (EST)

[[:Category:Navigation_templates|Nav templates]] have gone a bit wibbly. [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Template:Nav-bm&curid=18851&diff=838471&oldid=640853 I kludged a fix for the BM one there], but it would probably be easier converting them all to use a base template at {{tl|Nav}}, and just having the links and logo entered in the individual navs. Similar to how {{tl|Messagebox}} and many of the copyright templates work. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 13:54, 18 November 2013 (EST)
:Yes, that seems like a good idea. It'll keep them standard! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 02:59, 21 November 2013 (EST)

== Marvel G1 Cover Artists ==

Hi, can I just ask where we got the info for US cover artists from, as they weren't credited in the issues themselves. I only ask because this wiki says that Mark Texeira did the cover for both US#3 and US#4, but on the Comic Book Database (comicbookdb.com) they list Mike Zeck as the cover artist to #3. So, which site is correct, the TFwiki or comicbookdb? And if the wiki has the wrong cover artist for US#3, is it possible some of the cover credits to other issues might also be in need of correction? Cheers! --[[User:Ryan Frost|Ryan Frost]] ([[User talk:Ryan Frost|talk]]) 14:20, 18 November 2013 (EST)
:Even worse, while we credit the cover to Mark Texeira on the [[:File:MarvelUS-03.jpg|image page]], the actual [[Prisoner of War!|issue page]] credits it to Michael Golden. I think most of the Marvel cover credits really need to be double-checked against a reliable source, but I'm not sure where to find one. The Titan reprints had an intro which often named the cover artists, ISTR, but not always. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 03:30, 21 November 2013 (EST)

==Bing==

I've noticed that tfwiki doesnt show up in bing searches. Rather you'll get the wikia site even if you type in "tfwiki."
Has this been dealt with?

--[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] 20:47, 29 November 2013 (EST)
:I think it's one of the crawlers that got blocked for hammering the site. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:13, 29 November 2013 (EST)
::It was. I've re-enabled it now that I've got the wherewithal to deal with things using a method other than the banhammer of rage. Give it a few days. --[[User:McFly|McFly]] ([[User talk:McFly|talk]]) 17:15, 11 December 2013 (EST)

==Optimus Prime (Covenant of Primus)==

Given what the COP book has put out, we know that the Thirteenth Prime is Optimus Prime. Which brings up some questions that Hasbro has saw fit to tease us with for a whikle. Now, that said, we still need to compile the information. I suggest, since we dont know HOW exactly that is supposed to work, we treat it like Sideways after the Second Allspark Almanac. We make a new page Optimus Prime (COP) detailing the history outlined in the Covenant , and then place in his and Optimus Prime (WFC)'s note pages that they may or may not be the same person, or reincarnations or whatever.

Thoughts? [[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 16:54, 14 December 2013 (EST)
:Well, as far as I understand, the Covenant is all stuff that had been planned from the very conception of the Aligned universe. It's not a retcon; Aligned Optimus has been one of the Thirteen all along, so I don't see that it necessitates a new article. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 18:59, 14 December 2013 (EST)

They way it's presented, we dont know if it's LITERALLY the same Optimus, or some kind of G1 Optimus/ Optimus Primal thing or what. The book calls him Thirteen the whole time , and then on the last page or so goes (oh yeah, he's OPTIMUS PRIME) so I dont think we can be certain if he's the same character or if the name is just the same (Like Megatronus and Megatron). Thus the idea of a separate linked page until we get confirmation on how it all sussses out. [[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 14:19, 15 December 2013 (EST)

Otherwise I'm just going to edit COP stuff into Optimus Prime (WFC) main page.

==What's with the completely different formats?==

I noticed it at the beginning of this month, maybe it's been around longer than that. Some pages randomly seem to be in a completely different format than the one I've been used to seeing for years. It looks like it might be a mobile format or something but there's nothing different in the address that would indicate that it's the case. I don't really know the technical side of this wiki or what kind of decisions are officially made, so instead of trying to explain it I'll just use screenshots.

http://i.imgur.com/lF4KWnA.png Dark Cybertron 3 page looks like this

http://i.imgur.com/rXR7cIo.png but clicking to the next issue looks like this

I hope this isn't some kind of new official format that's slowly being rolled out because I find it less user-friendly overall. And if it isn't a new format you've decided on, then what is it, a mistake being caused by the wiki software itself? As far as I can tell from this discussion page, no one else has mentioned it, but I can't be the only one who's seeing it can I? [[User:Arborday|Arborday]] ([[User talk:Arborday|talk]]) 11:52, 24 December 2013 (EST)
:It's the mobile skin, [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&useskin=WPtouch WPtouch]. Clearly, something's gone screwy if you're getting it randomly... - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 11:57, 24 December 2013 (EST)
::Yeah, I don't even own a smart phone, I browse everything from a desktop. Usually I can tell if something is a mobile page, like if someone using a phone links something on facebook, I'll see a ".m" in the address, but I'm not seeing anything different about the address when I see these pages on this wiki. Not sure why I'd be the only one having this problem, but if other people are seeing it too then it must be a problem on the tech end right? [[User:Arborday|Arborday]] ([[User talk:Arborday|talk]]) 12:03, 24 December 2013 (EST)
:::The mobile skin is no more special than any other skin, so there's no difference in the URL. You might as well post up what browser you're using, since that'll no doubt be helpful information for the wiki's techy people. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 12:10, 24 December 2013 (EST)
::::The wiki autodetects from the user agent when you're on a mobile device and gives you the appropriate skin. I thought it might have been squid causing the problem, but I conducted a test just now (I visited a page on my phone, and then on my PC from a logged-out browser) and it worked fine. It could be that Arborday's ISP is using a proxy which is caching the pages and so he's getting random pages with the mobile skin simply because someone on his ISP visited them with a mobile device previously. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:23, 24 December 2013 (EST)
:::::I'm on Firefox, I dunno anything about proxies and the format changing seems to be just totally random. I can be viewing one page normally, click a link and it takes me to a mobile page, and then click another link and I'm on a normal page again. It doesn't make any sense to me and I guess it could be because of what you're saying with the ISP, but I don't really understand that stuff. [[User:Arborday|Arborday]] ([[User talk:Arborday|talk]]) 01:50, 25 December 2013 (EST)
::::::The issue may have been fixed since the last time I posted, pages that were previously on the mobile skin are now back to normal. Now I'm having an issue where some pages will show 4 "GO" images at the same time, but this isn't nearly as much of an inconvenience as the mobile issue. [[User:Arborday|Arborday]] ([[User talk:Arborday|talk]]) 01:53, 25 December 2013 (EST)

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Arborday:

MediaWiki:TFWiki.net 2013 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Entries

2013-05-26T05:27:55Z

Arborday: /* Poll entries */

This is the page for the '''TFWiki.net Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions''' entries. The rules are as follows:

#You must pick your top five ''Transformers'' characters, from any era. They must actually '''be''' Transformers; sorry, but no humans, non-Transformer aliens, non-Transformer robots, or anything else of the sort are being considered for the Hall of Fame. Any votes for such entities will '''not''' be tabulated. It is the sole discretion of the contest organizers to decide what does and does not count.
#Take your top five list and '''put it in alphabetical order'''. Order of preference does not matter. Feel free to denote the character's franchise of origin, although these distinctions may or may not figure into the final results.
#You '''cannot''' vote for a specific version of '''Bumblebee, Dinobot, Grimlock, Ironhide, Jazz, Megatron, Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Shockwave, Soundwave, Starscream, Waspinator, or Wheeljack.''' They've already been inducted!
#However, '''you CAN vote''' for '''''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'' [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] or [[Optimus Primal]]'''! Hasbro considers them separate!
#Only one entry per user.

Please put your characters of choice and user name below in the following manner:

*Bulkhead, Emirate Xaaron, Side Swipe, Terrorsaur (BW), X-Brawn --(four tildes)

Poll entry period ends at 4pm on '''[[May 31]]st, 2013'''. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 12:32, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

==Poll entries==


*[[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]], [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]], [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]] - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:34, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Chromedome, Fortress Maximus, Omega Supreme, Rewind --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 12:35, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Barricade, Devastator, Ravage, Sideways, Ultra Magnus -[[User:LV|LV]] 12:47, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Galvatron, Megatron (BW), Overlord, Sky-Byte, Unicron [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 12:50, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Bulkhead, Ratbat, Ravage, Rhinox, Wreck-Gar [[User:Awa64|Awa64]] 12:56, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Blurr, BW Megatron, Rattrap, Sky-Byte, Whirl [[User:Fireshot|Fireshot]] 12:59, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Bruticus, Devastator, Primus, Rattrap, Unicron [[User:Combaticons4ever|Combaticons4ever]] 13:17, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Hot Shot, Menasor, Springer, Tarantulas, Tracks [[User:Phantom_Dusclops'92|Phantom Dusclops'92]] 13:29, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Botanica, Fortress Maximus, Swindle, Swoop, Ultra Magnus - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 13:32, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*[[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee (Prime)]], [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron (Beast Wars)]], [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage (Beast Wars)]], [[Rattrap]], [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle (Animated/G1)]] --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 13:34, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Hound, Ratbat, Sideswipe, Springer, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 13:50, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Impactor, Scrounge, Straxus, Ultra Magnus, Venom --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 13:58, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Cyclonus, Megatron (BW), Rodimus Prime --[[User:Anguirus|Anguirus]] 14:14, 24 May 2013 (EDT)
*Bruticus, Devastator, Lugnut, Megatron (BW), Tarantulas -- [[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 14:23, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Lugnut, Megatron (BW), Sky-Byte, Swerve, Tarantulas -- [[User:General Tekno|General Tekno]] 14:26, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Buzzsaw, Nightbeat, Prowl, Tarantulas, Thunderwing -- --[[User:Nu-Priest|Nu-Priest]] 14:30, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Cyclonus, Prowl, Scorponok, Sunstreaker, Swindle - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:32, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Drift, Injector, Knock-Out (Prime), Megatron (BW), Tarantulas --[[User:EvoChanger|EvoChanger]] 14:34, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Chromedome, Rodimus, Springer, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Trixter|Trixter]] 14:41, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Hot Shot, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Rodimus, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Amadeus Windfall|Amadeus Windfall]] 14:53, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Megatron (BW), Prowl, Rodimus, Rung. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:54, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Astrotrain, Cosmos, Cyclonus, Omega Supreme, Ultra Magnus --([[User:Pinecronix|Pinecronix]] 14:57, 24 May 2013 (EDT))

*Demolishor (Armada), Hot Shot (Armada), Override (Cybertron), Red Alert (Armada), Sideways (Armada). --[[User:Stardust262|Stardust262]] 15:01, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Barricade, Devastator, Rattrap, Sky-Byte, Ultra Magnus [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 15:06, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Devastator, Omega Supreme, Ravage, Rodimus -- [[User:Riddlerj|Riddlerj]] 15:09, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Omega Supreme, Prowl, Swindle, Thundercracker, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 15:14, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Cosmos, Prowl, Sky-Byte, Tarantulas, Warpath --[[User:Sockie|Sockie]] 15:16, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Cyclonus, Deszaras, Powered Convoy, Star Saber -- [[User:S-NFS|S-NFS]] 23:22, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

*Cyclonus, Prowl, Sideways, Swoop, Ultra Magnus --[[User:AutoUIMagnus299|AutoUi299]] 15:53, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee (G1), Blades (G1), Punch, Side Burn (RID), Smokescreen (G1) [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] 16:00, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Ironfist, Rung, Sari Sumdac, Silverbolt (BW), Teaspoon -- [[User:JediFlaherty|JediFlaherty]] 16:03, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

* Bulkhead, Megatron (BW), Metroplex, Sky-Byte, Wreck-Gar --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:05, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Bulkhead, Omega Supreme, Overlord, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 16:11, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Ironfist, Nightbeat, Smokescreen, Thundercracker, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:Russellestate|Russellestate]] 16:07, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Impactor, Prowl, Ratbat, Rodimus, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:MarkMontag|MarkMontag]] 16:25, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Bulkhead, Sideswipe, Smokescreen, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 17:03, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Deathsaurus, Megatron (BW), Skywarp, Swindle, Thundercracker -- [[User:Rayqui|Rayqui]] 17:45, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Bulkhead, Prowl, Sky-Byte --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:47, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Blackarachnia, Hot Shot, Beast Megatron, Ratbat, Ravage --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:54, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Devastator, Megatron (BW), Sky-Byte, Swindle, Wreck-Gar --[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 17:58, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Devastator, Hot Shot, Megatron(BW), Ravage, Sky-Byte -- [[User:Shellspark|Shellspark]] 18:01, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Knock Out, Ravage, Sky-Byte, Swindle -- [[User:Strangefour|Strangefour]] 18:18, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Airazor, Blackarachnia, Cyclonus, Rattrap, Terrorsaur -- [[User:Bumblevivisector|Bumblevivisector]] 18:23, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Bulkhead, Lugnut, Sky Byte -- [[User:Boy Blunderous|Boy Blunderous]] 18:23, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Prowl, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 18:40, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*[[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee (Prime)]], [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]], [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron (Beast Wars)]], [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]], [[Rattrap]]--[[User:Damo|Damo]] 18:46, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Cheetor, Ginrai, Megatron (Beast Era), Optimus Primal, Thunderwing --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 19:14, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee (Prime),Blitzwing(Animated),Bulkhead (Prime), Megatron (BW),Rihnox (BW)--[[User:Venowtron|Venowtron]] 18:19, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Devastator, Megatron (BW), Swindle, Ultra Magnus --[[User:BattleBlade|BattleBlade]] 19:53, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Blitzwing, Devastator, Predaking, Sky-Byte --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] 19:58, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Bulkhead, Hot Shot, Jetfire, Prowl [[User:Bobpiecheese|Bobpiecheese]] 20:00, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Red Alert (g1), Rewind, Thunderwing, Ultra Magnus--[[User:Autobot Hunter|Autobot Hunter]] 20:10, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Bulkhead, Cheetor, Optimus Primal, Sentinel Prime, Wreck-Gar. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 20:13, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Bulkhead, Prowl, Sky-Byte, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Ketchup|Ketchup]] 20:16, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Blitzwing, Jetfire, Prowl --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:21, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Ironfist, Nightbeat, Skids, Smokescreen, Thundercracker --[[User:Hhall3|Hhall3]] 19:39, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*G1 Hot Spot, G1 Quickmix, G1 Rodimus Prime, G1 Searchlight, G1 Silverbolt - [[User:Ironhold|Ironhold]] 21:00, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee (Prime), Bulkhead, Hound, Jetfire (G1), Ultra Magnus --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 21:38, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Jetfire, Megatron (BW), Scorponok, Skids -- [[User:Chip|Chip]] 22:03, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Bulkhead, Devastator, Megatron (BW), Ratbat, Ultra Magnus - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] 22:32, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Megatronus Prime/The Fallen, Prima, Primus, Unicron, Thunderwing -- [[User:Primus Dave|Primus Dave]] 22:42, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Omega Supreme, Skywarp, Springer, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Diamondmatter|Diamondmatter]] 23:26, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Broadside, Bulkhead, Fortress Maximus, Megatron (BW), Omega Supreme --[[User:ShinRa Actual|ShinRa Actual]] 23:40, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Bulkhead, Fortress Maximus, Ginrai, Star Saber, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Ookalf|Ookalf]] 00:20, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Ravage, Ultra Magnus --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 00:33, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Megatron (BW), Nemesis Prime, Omega Supreme, Optimus Primal, Vector Prime --[[user:Dinobot III|Dinobot III]] 01:16, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Bruticus, Devestator, Galvatron, Rodimus, Ultra Magnus, --[[user:Japanasaurus Rex|Japanasaurus Rex]] 02:57 24 May 2013 (EDIT)

* Brawl, Bruticus, Prowl, Rotorstorm, Sixshot --[[User:Apoc|Apoc]] 04:10, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Arcee, Kickback, Omega Supreme, Shrapnel, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Ultra Magnus 506|Ultra Magnus 506]] 07:45, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

*Blackarachnia, Chromedome, Megatron (BW), Ravage, Rewind --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 07:50, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

*Blitzwing (Animated), Ironfist, Megatron (BW), Straxus, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:HunterCham|HunterCham]] 08:04, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Blaster, Fortress Maximus, Impactor, Springer, Ultra Magnus [[User:Mister Jazzz|Mister Jazz]] 08:06, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Arcee, Bulkhead, Jetfire, Prowl, Springer [[User:Gryllid|Gryllid]] 08:45, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Drift, Ironfist, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal [[User:Blackjack|Blackjack]] 10:42, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Blaster, Megatron (BW), Rattrap, Red Alert, Wreck-Gar [[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 11:08, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Blaster, Devastator, Springer, Swindle, Ultra Magnus [[User:Spark Mandrill|Spark Mandrill]] 11:41, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Arcee, Blackarachnia, Bruticus, Cheetor, Devastator -- [[User:Chihooaher|Chihooaher]] 11:42, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Blaster, Bludgeon, Cyclonus (G1), Kup, Ultra Magnus--[[User:Starscream0625|Starscream0625]] 11:45, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Arcee (Prime), Blackarachnia, Blitzwing, Megatron (BW), Sky-Byte --[[User:Professor Icepick|Professor Icepick]] 13:21, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Blackarachnia, Cyclonus, Megatron (BW), Rodimus Prime, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Caius|Caius]] 14:26, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

*[[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways (Multiversal Singularity?)]], [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]], [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], [[Unicron]] --[[User:AlephTrion|AlephTrion]] 14:38, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Demolishor, Frenzy, Laserbeak, Ravage, Sideways --[[User:Zorion|Zorion]] 22:46, 25 May 2013 (MSK)

* Bulkhead, Megatron (BW), Rattrap, Sky-Byte, Ultra Magnus --([[User:Barricade64|Barricade64]] 14:51, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Overlord (G1), Ravage, Seaspray, Unicron, Wreck-gar)-- ([[User:Geminia999|Geminia999]] 15:15, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Hot Rod (G1), Lugnut (Animated), Megatron (BW), Sky Byte (RID), Ultra Magnus (G1) --[[User:Blackout_501st|Blackout_501st]] 16:13. 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Blackarachnia, Galvatron, Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime, Hot Shot, Unicron --[[User:Fortress Minimus|Fortress Minimus]] 17:04, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Jetfire, Kup, Overlord, Springer, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Astrakhan|Astrakhan]] 17:46, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Astrotrain, Cheetor, Silverbolt (BW), Springer, Swindler (Micromaster Delorean) --[[User:Wheeljack539|Wheeljack539]] 18:12, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Arcee, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Rattrap, Rodimus Prime --[[User:Swift|Swift]] 19:38, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Bulkhead, Megatron (BW), Nightbeat, Overlord, Sky-Byte --[[User:TrentTroop|TrentTroop]] 20:00, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* [[Megatron (BW)]], [[Metroplex]], [[Omega Supreme]], [[Optimus Primal]], [[Unicron]] --[[User:IronVenom|IronVenom]] 20:19, 25 May 2013 (EDIT)

* Arcee, Bulkhead, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Ravage --[[User:Cr85747|Cr85747]] 22:25, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

*Jetfire, Nemis Prime, Rampage (BW), Ravage, Sunstorm --[[User:KWAC|KWAC]] 20:13 May 25 2013 (EDT)

*Lockdown, Ratbat, Rattrap, Sideways, Sky-Byte --[[User:Quickstrike|Quickstrike]] 01:18, 26 May 2013 (EDT)

* Bludgeon, Bugbite, Jhiaxus, Ultra Magnus, Whirl --[[User:Arborday|Arborday]] 01:27, 26 May 2013 (EDT)



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2013-05-01T03:59:54Z

Arborday: /* IDW Generation 1 continuity */ fixed Kup's tag

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[[File:Zombies.jpg|300px|thumb|I can't possibly deal with all of you at once!]]
{{bigquote|'''Don't you know?!''' The dead—the dead walk the streets of [[Kalis]]! And their victims... their victims become like them—'''the living dead!'''|[[Flywheels]]|"[[City of Fear!]]"}}

Although Transformers are often rebuilt or otherwise brought back from apparent death, there are also many examples of them being partially reanimated as '''zombies''', either self-aware or under the control of another.

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
{{quote|And some lingering remnants of his memory and personality [...] But without our circuit implants, he would be utterly mindless, an ordinary machine. [...] A robotic zombie.|The [[Quintesson]]s|"[[Dark Awakening]]"}}

[[File:Optimusg1zombie.jpg|left|300px|thumb|Sadly, we are cheated a "Brawn of the Dead" pun-reference.]]
While fleeing from [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]]'s [[Decepticon]]s, [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime]] and his [[Autobot]]s found refuge inside an [[Autobot Mausoleum|Autobot funeral barge]], where [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel Witwicky]] stumbled upon the reanimated form of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]]. Though most of the Autobots did not believe Daniel's story, Rodimus was obsessed with Optimus's memory, and tracked him down. After finding Optimus seemingly still alive, Rodimus happily handed over the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. However, things were not as they appeared, and Optimus immediately turned on them, left them to die in the funeral barge and escaped in a ship he had built.

Upon Optimus' return to Cybertron, he claimed that Rodimus and his crew had died due to a cruel [[Quintesson]] trick, and commanded every single Autobot to help him strike back. This was just what the Quintessons had orchestrated from the beginning, having reanimated the Autobots' former leader solely for the purpose of leading the entire faction into a deadly trap. Now without the Matrix, Hot Rod and his crew had managed to escape, and Hot Rod battled Optimus one-on-one in an attempt to reclaim the Matrix and get to the bottom of this deception. The real Optimus eventually resurfaced, returned the Matrix to Rodimus, once again gave him his blessing, and the Autobots retreated. Optimus's final act would be to pilot their ship into the trap, detonating it, and leaving a nova behind... {{storylink|Dark Awakening}} if he hadn't [[The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1|come back again later anyway]].
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====''Super-God Masterforce'' cartoon====
[[File:Zombiesmasterforce.jpg|200px|thumb|Paaanties...paaaantieeees...]]
After stealing dead bodies from medical universities, [[Dauros]] and [[Gilmer]] infused them with evil energy from [[Devil Z]]. These [[human]] zombies (in matching Decepticon jumpsuits) had begun to lay siege to a local city when [[Lander]], who was nearby, changed into his [[Pretender]] form and battled them. However, the zombies began to disappear in a flash of light after they had run out of energy.

The Decepticons realized that they needed to infuse life energy from living humans into the zombies to avoid this problem. After kidnapping several human boys, the Autobot Pretenders came to the rescue and befriended one of the boys, [[Cab]], who joined their team. {{storylink|Terror! The Decepticons' Manhunt}}
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===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
{{quote|So, bereft of its ''[[brain module]]'', a Transformer body is just so much circuitry, operable by a powerful ''computer signal!''|Ultra Magnus|"[[City of Fear!]]"}}
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[[File:Zombieskalis.jpg|left|200px|thumb|We take Pete's car, we drive over to mum's, we go in, take care of Phillip, then we grab mum, we go over to Liz's place, hole up, have a cup of tea and wait for all this to blow over. How's that for a slice of fried gold?]]
''In a desperate bid to stop [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] from exploding the walking bomb [[Guardian (Marvel)|Guardian]], [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] radio-controlled the body of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] ([[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] had the head), to grab Grimlock's arm. Without a brain module to control its functions Prime's hand could not let go of Grimlock's arm. This resulted in Grimlock's hand being ripped off when he was knocked away from Prime by the Guardian robot.'' {{storylink|The Wrath of Grimlock!}}

''Several years later [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] and the [[Sparkabot|Sparkler Mini-Bots]] encountered similar technology used on a much broader scale. Traveling via prototype [[space bridge]] to the new home of [[Emirate]] [[Xaaron]]'s resistance movement in [[Kalis]], they arrived to find the place vacant and ransacked by beings unknown. After capturing the Decepticon [[Flywheels]] in [[Tyrest (polity)|Tyrest]] and bringing him back into Kalis, their captive shook with fear. The dead walk in Kalis, he warned, as the fists of the unliving punched up through the ground beneath them.''

''Though Ultra Magnus refused to return Flywheels's gun to him, the Decepticon helped Magnus and the Sparklers beat back the undead hordes. Their attempts, however, seemed futile—no matter how hard their attackers were damaged, they still functioned! Finally, Flywheels and the Sparklers reverted to vehicle mode, where they could use their weapons to destroy the zombies more effectively. But alas, Magnus was stunned to realize that the beings they put down were formerly Autobots. Realizing that the zombies were being animated by remote using a radio signal, they travelled to the [[Baird Beaming Transmitter]]. The signal was indeed shut down, and Magnus discovered that the signal was coming from deep within [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]...'' {{storylink|City of Fear!}}

[[File:Impactorzombie.jpg|150px|thumb|Wreckers never die, they just go to Hell and regroup!]]
''The zombies were actually activated by the mad Autobot scientist [[Flame (Marvel)|Flame]] and sent to stalk the area surrounding Kalis to scare off intruders, while he set into motion his doomed plan to transform Cybertron into a spacefaring battlestation. Though he captured his rival Emirate Xaaron and other inhabitants of [[Autobase]], he would have been easily thwarted—if not for his zombification of the late [[Wrecker]]s leader, [[Impactor (G1)|Impactor]].'' {{storylink|Legion of the Lost!}} ''The current Wreckers leader, [[Springer (G1)|Springer]], was shocked into inaction at the sight of his former leader, and if it weren't for Impactor's mind reasserting itself, the planet would have been lost. Impactor once again sacrificed his life to save the others, staying behind to deactivate Flame's mechanism as it annihilated him.'' {{storylink|Meltdown!}}

[[File:ZombieScream1.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Leeeadership... Leaaadershiiip...]]
''Later, [[Dreadwind (G1)|Dreadwind]] and [[Darkwing]] were sent by [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] to reclaim [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]]'s charred corpse on [[Earth]]. Starscream's remains were possessed by the essence of the [[Underbase]] and went on an insane rampage, nearly killing Doctor [[Susan Hoffman]] and [[Susan Hoffman|her assistants]]. After Starscream was diverted away from the [[human]]s by [[Backstreet (G1)|Backstreet]], [[Dogfight]], and [[Override (G1)|Override]], the trio of [[Triggerbot]]s tried in vain to stop the rampaging zombie. Eventually, the Underbase realized it was acting insane and regained control, but as soon as it did, Dreadwind and Darkwing siphoned all the power out of it, and Starscream's corpse returned to being an inanimate pile of scrap, which the pair quickly collected.'' {{storylink|Race with the Devil}}

[[File:Zombiesbackfromthedead.jpg|175px|thumb|Goddamn, Goldbug's creepy. Guess this explains why Ratchet prefers him as Bumblebee.]]
Meanwhile, [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] had been working long hours to repair the Autobots' massive number of casualties from the [[Underbase Saga]]—so long, that he began to hallucinate, seeing his patients rise up from their repair beds and blame him for their condition. Megatron, to whom the corpse of Starscream was being delivered, required Ratchet to repair him, so the former Decepticon leader sent the [[Micromaster]] [[Sports Car Patrol]] to trick Ratchet into returning with them to Cybertron. To do this, [[Blackjack]] and his fellow Micromasters made Ratchet's hallucination real, animating Ratchet's patients. However, this began to backfire when Ratchet decided to give himself up to his accusers. The Sports Car Patrol decided this wasn't the best course of action and tried to lure him with a different plan. {{storylink|Back from the Dead}}

''While looking for clues to the identity of [[Playback]]'s killer, [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] suddenly found himself, [[Siren]], and [[Hosehead]] under attack by the prime suspect—[[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]]! Ultimately, Nightbeat was able to save their lives by having his [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster partner]], [[Muzzle]], become the head of Playback's corpse, momentarily distracting Thunderwing with its scary zombieness. As soon as Muzzle jumped clear, the trio of Autobots fired at the corpse's fuel supply, causing a huge explosion which forced Thunderwing into retreat.'' {{storylink|The Big Shutdown!}}
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====''Regeneration One''====
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[[File:Megatrons zombie army loose ends 2.jpg|thumb|200px|They're not ''dead'' exactly, they're just sort of...rotting.]]
By [[2012]] [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] had reanimated and lobotomised some of the victims of the [[Underbase Saga]], along with [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]], who was allowed to retain a small part of his consciousness as a punishment. When [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] and the [[Wrecker]]s crashlanded on Earth in their escape pods, Megatron ordered his zombie army to track them down. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 2|Loose Ends #2}}

After [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] and [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] brought in the unconscious Kup, Megatron used him as bait to lure in the other Wreckers then ordered the zombies to ambush them. [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] shot down [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]], [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] and [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]] disabled [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]] and Starscream almost killed [[Springer (G1)|Springer]], earning himself a rebuke from Megatron who was saving that pleasure for himself. However, within Starscream the spark of rebellion still burned and he was able to vocalise to Kup that in order to defeat Megatron he must kill [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 4|Loose Ends #4}}

The army of "Ex-Bots" charged into battle against the detachment of Autobots [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] had brought with him from Cybertron, but when Ratchet, Megatron and [[Aunty|Auntie]] were more-or-less simultaneously taken out by Kup, Prime and [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Circuit Smasher]] respectively, the signal reanimating and controlling the zombies was shut off and they dropped to the ground, inactive. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 5|Loose Ends #5}}

[[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]], [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]], [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]] and [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] were tasked with gathering the fallen zombies and throwing them into a large pit where [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] could vaporise them from orbit to be sure. The only survivor was Starscream, thanks to the glimmer of consciousness Megatron had left him with. {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part 1|Natural Selection #1}}

'''Known zombies:'''
{{collist|3|
*[[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]]
*[[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]
*[[Blot (G1)|Blot]]
*[[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]]
*[[Grotusque]]
*[[Hun-Gurrr]]
*[[Octane]]
*[[Overbite (G1)|Overbite]]
*[[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]]
*[[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]]
*[[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]]
*[[Repugnus (G1)|Repugnus]]
*[[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]
*[[Snaptrap (G1)|Snaptrap]]
*[[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]]
*[[Tantrum]]
*[[Tentakil (G1)|Tentakil]]
*[[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]]
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===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
[[File:Zombiesspotlightkup.jpg|left|200px|thumb|One of these guys was probably Skids.]]
[[Kup (G1)|Kup]] had been marooned on a distant planet for quite some time when They started coming for him. They only came at night, when the suns would stop filtering through the planet's beautiful, indigenous crystals, creating such beautiful music... Kup could not allow Them to take the music away from him, and even though his buddy [[Outback (G1)|Outback]], the only other survivor of Kup's crew, refused to help him, Kup was able to beat back every single last one of Them every single night when they'd come for him.

What Kup didn't know is that they were not zombies, but [[Autobot]]s sent in to rescue him. The [[antique anti-rad armor]] they wore to protect themselves from the extreme radiation caused by the crystals also disguised their identities to Kup, who was suffering hallucinations at the hand of the radiation. Oops. {{storylink|Spotlight: Kup}}

A few years later, [[Galvatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Galvatron]] found a strange mass of real zombies—human and robot—frozen together near an anomaly in space. He brought the mass aboard to study but when they thawed, the zombies attacked Galvatron's crew, infecting some of his [[Sweep]]s. Zombie leader [[Britt]], now in robotic form, used powers of suggestion to trick the Cybertronians into thinking she was a member of their crew named Bayonet, while she actually sabotaged the engines to take the ship to [[Earth]]. {{storylink|The Transformers: Infestation issue 1|The Transformers: Infestation #1}} When Kup was infected by the zombie virus, Britt gained the knowledge of Cybertron's history and technology, which would let her send the virus back in time and infect Cybertron during its [[Golden Age]]. She was stopped when [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] took control of Kup's body and used her space-time portal to transport her, Kup and the entire zombie horde to the very beginning of the [[Dead Universe]] where there would be nothing to devour or infect. {{storylink|The Transformers: Infestation issue 2|The Transformers: Infestation #2}}

When the apparently-dead [[Fulcrum]] returned to life, the Decepticon [[Flywheels]] (naturally) assumed he was a zombie, before Fulcrum managed to persuade him otherwise. {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement}}
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===Beast Era===
====''Beast Wars Metals'' comic====
[[File:DevilGorilla-sk.jpg|200px|thumb|He really shouldn't have taken that Aztec gold.]]
As [[Optimus Primal]]'s corpse floated in [[Earth]]'s orbit following his sacrifice at the hands of the [[Vok|aliens]]' [[Planet Buster]], [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] realized true strength was not only in numbers (fashioning himself an army of drones), but also in retrieving Primal's remains, reassembling it, and reanimating it as a zombie. Upon initial activation, the zombie asserted its dominance over Megatron's new army of drones.

Thankfully, before Megatron and [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]] could make the process permanent, the [[Maximal]]s showed up and [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] injected Primal's [[Spark]] (which he had retrieved from [[Transwarp]] space) into his old body. Thus ended the short career of Zombie Convoy. {{storylink|Raise the Curtain for Beast Wars Metals!!}}
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====''Beast Wars Neo'' cartoon====
[[Unicron]] possessed the dead body of [[Galvatron (BWII)|Galvatron]]. Much fun was had.

====''Beast Machines'' cartoon====
[[File:Zombiessparkofdarkness.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Yeessss... Yeeesssss....]]
After the defeat of [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]] and the [[Maximal]]s' takeover of the [[Grand Mal]], [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] were investigating the fields of [[spark]]less Transformer bodies when they were attacked by a zombie-like creature. A seemingly-invincible corpse battled them. Blackarachnia attempted to use her energo-web attacks, but it merely absorbed them. until finally, after Blackarachnia threw another corpse's [[power core]] at it, the zombie collapsed. A mysterious energy ball lifted from the zombie, and it disappeared through a grate in the ground.

The energy ball appeared next in the [[technorganic orchard]] that [[Rattrap]] and [[Botanica (BM)|Botanica]] were tending, bringing life to a deactivated [[Motorcycle Drone]]. Botanica attempted to use her energy weapon powers against it, but like Blackarachnia's energo-webs, it merely absorbed her attack. After being expelled too from this body, it fled to the surface into a deactivated [[Aero Drone]], where it attacked [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]], [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]], and [[Strika (BM)|Strika]]. Nightscream tried a different approach of "draining" the creature of its power, but it drained Nightscream's own power from him. The Maximals began to see a pattern in the zombies' attacks, and regrouped inside the Grand Mal, which seemed to be its target. Finally, Rattrap had an epiphany, realized what was going on, and captured the energy ball inside a [[Diagnostic Drone]]. The energy ball was actually the polarized spark of Megatron. Surprise! {{storylink|Spark of Darkness}}
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===''Cybertron'' comic===
[[File:Zombiedarkscorponok.jpg|250px|thumb|Kiiiickerrr...Kiiiicker... our Plaaanetts...]]
{{quote|The afflicted is driven by an insatiable desire to feed on the life energy of others. Nearly mindless, he will stop at nothing to feed. He ignores injury, knowing only hunger and pain. And the best part is that anyone off whom he feeds becomes just the same.|[[Ramjet (Universe)|Ramjet]] tells [[Scrapmetal (race)|Scrapmetal]] a heartwarming story|[[Balancing Act, Part 3]]"}}

Despite [[Unicron]]'s apparent death inside the [[Unicron Singularity]], his essence's will was still strong enough to use the reality-altering black hole to bring the [[Terrorcon (Energon)|Terrorcon]] [[Scorponok (Energon)|Scorponok]] to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Now ''Dark'' Scorponok, this undead creature stalked the evacuated planet surface, screaming in hunger and pain, crying out for [[spark]]s upon which to feast. At first Dark Scorponok assaulted [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]], {{storylink|Balancing Act, Part 2}} who survived due to his powerful forcefield ability, but the monster was drawn away by [[Ramjet (Universe)|Ramjet]]'s evil [[Mini-Con]] minions, towards the [[Kalis Primary Energon Reserves Control]], where [[Vector Prime]] and [[Sentinel Maximus]] were located. {{storylink|Balancing Act, Part 3}} After a prolonged fight, Sentinel Maximus was able to defeat Dark Scorponok, after which he and Vector Prime realized this was just a diversion. Leaving what was left of Dark Scorponok, unable to solve his affliction, their attentions were needed elsewhere, below the planet's surface. {{storylink|Balancing Act, Part 4}}

===Titan Magazines movie comic===
[[File:ZombieConsTitan.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Mission City--28 Minutes Later...]]
Immediately after [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]'s death, [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] appointed himself the commander of the Decepticons... who were all dead. Noticing the [[AllSpark Mutation|mechanical devices]] that the [[AllSpark]] had animated, Starscream tore the solidified AllSpark energy from them and used it to turn the Decepticon corpses into undead soldiers. Without any mental functions whatsoever, they simply walked forward and attempted to kill, and very nearly tore apart the weakened Autobots before [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] worked out how to stop them. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 7|Starscream's Militia}}
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===''Animated'' cartoon===
[[File:Prowlspacebarnacles.jpg|200px|thumb|I'll swallow your SPARK!]]
[[Space barnacle]]s are parasitic life-forms that can be considered "zombie-inducing" in their quest for energy. Some of them attached themselves to the dead body of [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]] and managed to reanimate it, evolving themselves into semi-awareness and later absorbing other machines. In this state, they shared with zombies the property to "infect" other robots by simple contact, turning them also into mindless drones, ready to spread the infection. ("Normal" space barnacles simply drain energy, but presumably do not take over Transformer minds.) [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] and [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] were finally cured from their contact with the creature when [[Sari Sumdac|Sari]] blasted the space barnacles off with hot [[water]]. {{storylink|Nature Calls}}
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===''Prime'' cartoon===
{{main|Terrorcon (Prime)}}

==Honorable mentions==
*[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]], while he was an animated unliving Transformer controlled by [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] and later [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster]], was not strictly a zombie. He was not given life until after he was used as a mindless puppet by diabolical masters.
*[[Metrotitan (Zone)|Metrotitan]] is not a reanimated [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] as was [[Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers|commonly believed]] for some time.
*[[Dinobot II]], though he looked like an undead [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot I]], was more of a [[Frankenstein's monster]] than a zombie.
*[[Primeval Dawn]]'s "Zombie [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]]", as referred to by some fans, did inhabit the reconfigured remains of his previous body. This seemed to be a full return to life, despite his new black-and-gray color scheme, rather than being undead.
*[[Ramjet (Universe)|Ramjet]] was brought back to life after an ancient god toyed with his spark. Now he's an "incomplete" form of what he was before, in a state of both being and unbeing.
*''[[Transformers: Energon (franchise)|Energon]]'' [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]], though brought back from the dead, was more ghostly than zombie-like. Even [[Aaron Archer]] referred to him as an "[[Energon]] ghost."
*''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]] was kept alive by a fragment of the AllSpark, despite his spark having been extinguished, making him a zombie of sorts.
*[[Crumplezone (Cybertron)|Dark Crumplezone]], though he was also brought back from the dead, likewise wasn't very zombie-like; indeed, he even came back smarter (according to his on-package [[bio]]) and with his personality intact.
*[[Dead End (ROTF)|Dead End]] was a decomposing, bestial creature that cannibalised other Transformers, but was doing that to ''stave off'' death.
*Many of [[MECH]]'s [[Nemesis Prime (Prime)|constructed]] and [[Breakdown (WFC)|reassembled]] [[Silas|Transformers]] have a rusted, heavily-damaged appearance, but they are not undead.

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Talk:Erector (G1)

2011-04-13T21:29:56Z

Arborday:

==Humor proposal==
I have a idea - given the obviousness (and lameness) of the jokes that will eventually appear in this article, I propose that this article will be written entirely 'straight', that is, taken seriously without any jokes. That, in fact, will be the joke - people expect bad jokes from this wiki, so we buck the trend. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:28, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
: What a flaccid page this shall be! -[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:41, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
:: That's the joke :D People expect chock-a-block of viagra or erectile dysfunction or other dick-related jokes from this page, so we go in a completely opposite direction and do nothing. It's edgy! It's left-of-field humour! --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:55, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Or we could fill the entire article with sophmoric sexual humor...but exercise a complete ban on anything that's even vaguely about erections, just to confuse people. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:20, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Lilformers has a better joke than the crap you get about erections. Why not just say something about his name? One little Micro-Master didn't QUITE make it to name day on time... [[User:86.17.124.125|86.17.124.125]] 14:57, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:Editing the humorous captions is a privilege accorded to editors who have made notable contributions to the wiki. Looking over your contribution history, you're not there yet. I recommend you get an account and find a substantive way to contribute, before editing the humor. [[User:JW|JW]] 15:09, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:For what it's worth, I've got a Wikipedia account which I use for minor edits. And I just moved that username into Teletraan. And there's no reason to accuse me of being like Megatron. I'm smarter than him. [[User:Harley Quinn hyenaholic|Harley Quinn hyenaholic]] 15:22, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
::Excellent, thank you for getting an account. Now, please stop editing captions until you've made some substantial contributions. Thank you. [[User:JW|JW]] 15:32, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

== An Idea ==

I've written an alternative version of this at [[User:-Blackout-/Erector]]. Read and discuss, please.

(Before anyone asks: yes, we can take out the Wikipedia-style captions.) --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:44, 6 March 2010 (EST)
:Much better. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:52, 6 March 2010 (EST)
::Any chance of feedback from other people? I won't mind if you blow the idea to hell, really. :) --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 15:33, 19 March 2010 (EDT)
:::I actually like the snickering about his name in the current article, sorry. Also, your word choice in the above comment is somewhat unfortunate. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:46, 19 March 2010 (EDT)
::::What? How? Impossible! Surely it isn't! [endsarcasm]
::::(I hate being a non-native English speaker.) --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 16:24, 19 March 2010 (EDT)

:I don't get that page. The differences are mainly the removal of the "(*snort*)","(*giggle*)" and such. So, what's that supposed to be, anyway? Is there some point I'm missing?
[[User:Item42|Item42]] 02:21, 15 June 2010 (EDT)

== Hall of Fame ==
Thought the consensus was HoF bios are in the New Aligned continuity?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 13:25, 13 April 2011 (EDT)
:Not all bios are aligned, look at the Beast Wars characters. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 13:28, 13 April 2011 (EDT)
:: So what decides Erectors is G1 and say Jazz's is NA?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 13:34, 13 April 2011 (EDT)
:::I agree. The BW guys are...different, because nothing like BW exists in the Prime-iverse such as it is so far. But Hasbro has made it clear that everything they do now is supposed to fit into their Grand New Continuity, so I think in the absence of aa reason it ISN'T, we have to assume Erector's bio IS. -[[User:LV|LV]] 13:37, 13 April 2011 (EDT)
::::To be the biggest difference is that there is no "aligned" Erector in any other way other than this bio. Heck, the G1 one barely exists other than a toy and a story page. All the other bios usually take an amalgamation of each "version" of the character. This only has the G1. I see no reason to create an Erector page. However, if Erector appears in the fiction in the future, the bio can move accordingly. --[[User:Bluestreak7|Bluestreak7]] 13:53, 13 April 2011 (EDT)
:::::I sorta agree. Unless we get official word about Erector in specific or he shows up in "aligned" fiction, I don't think splitting out an one-off bio is all that useful. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 13:59, 13 April 2011 (EDT)
::::::There's also the fact that this year's bios are a heck of a lot less "Aligned" than last year's. Jazz has lost the "Prime's best friend" and "Cyber-Ninja" aspects, Shockwave lost his "gets emotional" bit... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:01, 13 April 2011 (EDT)
:::::::I don't see it as losing things they mentioned last year, but just trying not to be repetitive. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:04, 13 April 2011 (EDT)
::::::::Exactly. It's not losing anything, it's just a different write-up. And all of the "Great Exodus" stuff over and over and over again is really Aligned-y. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:57, 13 April 2011 (EDT)
::::::: I agree that the new bio info should go here, not Erector (Prime) or whatever.... [[Special:Contributions/76.0.87.180|76.0.87.180]] 14:47, 13 April 2011 (EDT)
::Since the bio is so short (and obviously meant humorously), would it be an option to put it in the Notes section rather than the Fiction section if opinions remain divided? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 15:05, 13 April 2011 (EDT)
:::Since the nomination process is about nominating ''existing'' characters, it borders on paradoxical if the process itself can create new characters ''ex nihilo.'' "Erector (Aligned)" did not exist prior to the nomination process (and in my opinion does not exist now), so suggesting "Erector (Aligned)" is the guy who was nominated as a fan-favorite is kinda nonsensical. I think the bio should stay here. (Of course, the HoF process is not really about ''characters,'' but rather about "names and the cross-franchise character concepts behind them", but still.) [[User:JW|JW]] 16:14, 13 April 2011 (EDT)
::::Your "of course" statement negates the force of your argument. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:17, 13 April 2011 (EDT)
:::::Sometimes my ability to see both sides of an argument is more curse than blessing. My key point, that it's silly to suggest that people nominated someone ''who didn't exist,'' stands. [[User:JW|JW]] 16:41, 13 April 2011 (EDT)
::::::And yet last year apparently people nominated a Jazz who was Orion Pax's best friend. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:45, 13 April 2011 (EDT)
:::::::I'm tempted to say that this nomination was an enormous cock-up. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:46, 13 April 2011 (EDT)
:::::::Walky makes an arguable point. However, at the time when Jazz was nominated, Jazz (WFC) existed, though the game and book were still in the production process. Therefore, when Hasbro wrote the bio, they could legitimately be incorporating elements of Jazz (WFC) into the composite bio. In the case of Erector, inasmuch as we can deduce the Hasbro bio-writer's thought process, it was probably something like, "I'm going to write a bio for this G1 guy, but put a bit of Aligned polish on it, to suit our corporate needs." I don't think "polish" is enough to create a character, and I certainly think the HoF nominations process should never be construed to ''create new characters,'' that being entirely contrary to its purpose. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:12, 13 April 2011 (EDT)
::::::::I'm on Walky's side with this one. The idea that WfC already existed behind the scenes is a weak defense; no one who voted for Jazz was thinking about WfC or ''Prime'' Jazz. Every first-year HoF bio (except probably Dinobot) "created" a new character - they were all just quickly joined by other Aligned portrayals when WfC and ''Prime'' came out later. So the notion of putting Jazz's HoF info in the Aligned character's page is just as "paradoxical" as making a new page for Erector. I understand where you're coming from, since on the face of it this is indeed counterintuitive. But Erector isn't a new case; it's just a situation where there doesn't happen to be a preexisting Aligned page to obscure the bare mechanics of what we're doing. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 17:22, 13 April 2011 (EDT)

:::"Since the bio is so short"
:::Short? It's longer than his G1 tech spec and single fictional appearance combined! [[User:Arborday|Arborday]] 17:29, 13 April 2011 (EDT)

:If the HoF bio did nothing but talk about Erector, I'd be inclined to say keep the info on this page and move on. But the [[Armada Laserbeak Surveillance System]] and [[Real Gear Quick Action Weaponry]] are more problematic; there's already [[Talk:Real Gear Quick Action Weaponry|another discussion]] in progress.
:My general inclination is to treat the Hall of Fame like a little franchise. So, for instance, the RGQAW page's continuity note would read, "''from the [[Transformers Hall of Fame|Hall of Fame]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]]''" (or even just "''from the [[Transformers Hall of Fame|Hall of Fame]]''" if we want to play it super-safe). If we made a new Erector page, it would be titled "Erector (HOF)". That sort of thing.
:- [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 17:22, 13 April 2011 (EDT)

Talk:Megatron (G1)/toys

2011-04-03T04:42:03Z

Arborday: /* Hasbro not re-using Classics Megatron? */

Hi guys.

In addition to my first contribution a while back (the Masterpiece Megs write-up), I've just added a bunch of new stuff I noticed wasn't in there, like Sport Label and also the nontransforming Megatron gunmode accessories included with Masterpiece Prime and Reissue Starscream. I know they're not actual transforming toys per se, but my argument is that:

a] They're official Takara products explicity identified as Megatron, and:

b] since we list nontransforming representations of Megs in ''robot'' mode (revoltech, heroes etc.), it'd be kinda "form-ist" to omit these. Plus, they do technically have moving parts. Kinda...

Hope you guys find it all kosher.

Cheers, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].

== The looks on Henkei Megatron ==

Saw it today, and it has a dull white repaint, save for some silver which probably flakes. It's looks very bland and metaphorically cheap; people are better off with the American version. --[[User:akindofdrifter|akindofdrifter]]

== Optimus Prime Vs Megatron: The Ultimate Battle set ==

I saw several of the 'OPVM:TUB' box sets, minus the DVD, this evening at the Dollar General store where I work at. It still has the same packaging as last year's offering; possibly leftovers from Hasbro's warehouse. Still, not a bad idea to send out in light of the soon release of 'TF:ROTF'. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 23:05, 17 May 2009 (EDT)

== "Safety/Lava Bath Megatron" ==

From the [[For safety reasons]] page:
:''As such, it is entirely legal for dealers to sell original G1 Megatron figures, as they are grandfathered in; but any later American release of the toy WOULD have to meet these standards, hence the "Safety/Lava Bath Megatron" toy, which STILL failed to meet these guidelines, as the entire external surface was not (and likely could not be) made from a single color of plastic.''

Any more info on this, since it's not mentioned here (even as a {{tl|canceledtoy}})? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 13:25, 23 September 2009 (EDT)
: It was a slide on Hasbro's presentation for one BotCon or another. We weren't allowed to take pictures that year. It was a bright orange and blue-chromed G1 Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:44, 23 September 2009 (EDT)

== Hasbro not re-using Classics Megatron? ==

I've seen a few people on a forum off-handedly mention that Hasbro won't re-use Classics Megatron because even it doesn't meet safety standards any longer. Has this actually been said anywhere, or are these people wackos? -- [[User:Arborday|Arborday]] 23:28, 3 May 2010 (EDT)
* Wow man, if that ''is'' true, then I frakkin' despair. How can NERF guns be legal and Classics Megsy not be ''when he's based on a goddamn NERF gun''..?!? [[User:Rattrapping|Rattrapping]] 21:08, 12 March 2011 (EST)
: Not the mold, the colors. Hasbro said that reissuing Classics Megatron in the colors he originally came out in is no longer feasible. He'd have to be more dayglo and neon. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:09, 12 March 2011 (EST)
:: Well, to answer my original question, where was this said? I've only seen it mentioned a few times, with no one ever questioning the source. It seems something like that would be a bigger deal/more common knowledge, but I don't recall hearing it in a Botcon Q&A or anything like that [[User:Arborday|Arborday]] 00:42, 3 April 2011 (EDT)

== AM Radio ==

Not to spoil anyone's fun, but I've heard rumors that the gun contains a mic in the back of the ''scope'', not the front of the barrel. Could this be verified, debunked, or what? [[User:TheMZone|TheMZone]] 03:31, 21 October 2010 (EDT)

== G2 colour scheme ==
Just spotted this article and was struck by the resemblance to Megatron's G2 colours - http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/nov/02/language-lesson-anglo-french-forces - I don't know if green and purple camo is specifically a French thing or whether it's more common than that? -- Emvee (not signed in at work)
:Wha? That tank is in greens, blacks and browns. I think your monitor needs adjusting. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 09:32, 3 November 2010 (EDT)

== Page edit lock? ==
Why is the toy page locked from editing? {{unsigned|110.33.205.174}} 23:25, 5 November 2010 (EDT)
:It's to prevent it from being vandalized by anonymous users. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:40, 5 November 2010 (EDT)
::Sorry, forgot to sign before. Why is this page particularly prone to vandalization?[[Special:Contributions/110.33.205.174|110.33.205.174]] 00:12, 6 November 2010 (EDT)
:::It was locked back in July because someone kept adding WFC Megatron's toy to the page, even though it's a representation of Prime Megatron. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:01, 6 November 2010 (EDT)

== ATB Megatron ==
I was just wondering if the unreleased G2 Megs stealth bomber shouldn't be listed as "ATB Megatron", or at least contain some acknowledgment that this is the name most commonly recognized for this toy? I'm pretty sure it even lists "ATB" as part of his name on the toy packaging. Speaking of which, shouldn't this entry also contain some mention of the fact that very limited boxed samples of this toy were actually produced (and pictures exist), even though it wasn't actually "released"...? Given the obscure nature of this info, I didn't want to just add it without asking first, though. [[User:Rattrapping|Rattrapping]] 21:21, 12 March 2011 (EST)

Talk:Pepsi Convoy

2011-01-21T20:13:47Z

Arborday: /* Slightly altered how? */

==Stuipd or not?==
Well among the stupidest Transformer reprints ever.

Yet man does he make me thirsty. So I guess he's doing his job well. If nothing else.

there should be a picture of Prime int he fridge witht he Destron Pizza box.

Because Destron Pizza is love.-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:54, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
: You shut your mouth! Pepsi Convoy is awesome. I need one. Give me $60. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:58, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

...Pepsi Convoy IS awesome. This I do not deny.

Can you tell me where to FIND a copy of the ad with him in a dridge fighting a Destron Pizza box? Because I want a picture of Destron Pizza for the wiki. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:10, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

: http://fantofan.jp/news/mag/dengekihobby/feb2006-1.jpg

: http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/TF/g1/shohin/pepsi/pepsi_01.html
--[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 08:22, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

:Thanks man, you rocks!
:...Destron Pizza is from Florida?!?
:...what does the second page on the e-hobby site showing him charging to the rescue say?
:Possibly more importantly, what does the note ont he tupperware say in english? I cant' quite make it out. Does it start 'Dear Convoy'? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:42, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
::Not only is Destron Pizza from Florida, but apparently it may actually be from a city in Florida that is ''also'' named Florida. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 23:44, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

==Slightly altered how?==
Hi folks. Just a question; does any one know what the actual difference is for the "slightly altered" U.S. release? I'm adding the U.S. version to [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime (G1) toys]] since, unlike Pepsi Convoy, he is actually supposed to be Optimus. However, I don't know what this small difference is supposed to be, since I only own the Japanese version myself.

Any help?

Thanks, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]]

I believe the only difference is the stickers on the forearm. If not the only difference, it's the primary difference in bot mode [[User:Arborday|Arborday]] 15:13, 21 January 2011 (EST)

== Optimus drinks Pepsi... ==

If Optimus Prime drinks Pepsi, does that mean Megatron drinks Coke? [[User:Supertron|Supertron]] 08:02, 17 September 2010 (EDT)

Talk:Pepsi Convoy

2011-01-21T20:13:28Z

Arborday: /* Slightly altered how? */

==Stuipd or not?==
Well among the stupidest Transformer reprints ever.

Yet man does he make me thirsty. So I guess he's doing his job well. If nothing else.

there should be a picture of Prime int he fridge witht he Destron Pizza box.

Because Destron Pizza is love.-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:54, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
: You shut your mouth! Pepsi Convoy is awesome. I need one. Give me $60. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:58, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

...Pepsi Convoy IS awesome. This I do not deny.

Can you tell me where to FIND a copy of the ad with him in a dridge fighting a Destron Pizza box? Because I want a picture of Destron Pizza for the wiki. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:10, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

: http://fantofan.jp/news/mag/dengekihobby/feb2006-1.jpg

: http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/TF/g1/shohin/pepsi/pepsi_01.html
--[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 08:22, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

:Thanks man, you rocks!
:...Destron Pizza is from Florida?!?
:...what does the second page on the e-hobby site showing him charging to the rescue say?
:Possibly more importantly, what does the note ont he tupperware say in english? I cant' quite make it out. Does it start 'Dear Convoy'? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:42, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
::Not only is Destron Pizza from Florida, but apparently it may actually be from a city in Florida that is ''also'' named Florida. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 23:44, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

==Slightly altered how?==
Hi folks. Just a question; does any one know what the actual difference is for the "slightly altered" U.S. release? I'm adding the U.S. version to [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime (G1) toys]] since, unlike Pepsi Convoy, he is actually supposed to be Optimus. However, I don't know what this small difference is supposed to be, since I only own the Japanese version myself.

Any help?

Thanks, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]]

I believe the only different is the stickers on the forearm. If not the only difference, it's the primary difference in bot mode [[User:Arborday|Arborday]] 15:13, 21 January 2011 (EST)

== Optimus drinks Pepsi... ==

If Optimus Prime drinks Pepsi, does that mean Megatron drinks Coke? [[User:Supertron|Supertron]] 08:02, 17 September 2010 (EDT)

Heinrad (BW)

2010-08-25T03:19:34Z

Arborday: the BWTF link was outdated, fixed it

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:''Heinrad is a [[Maximal]] from the [[Beast Wars Neo (franchise)|Beast Wars Neo]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]]'s [[Beast Era]].''
[[Image:Heinrad.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Where we're going, we don't need ''roads''.]]
'''Heinrad''' (ハインラッド ''Hainraddo'') possesses the unique ability to stop time for a short while. One would expect someone with such power to be... well, not someone like Heinrad. He is a lovable, drunken goofball, often showing a lazy and relaxed personality. Despite this, he knows how to use his time-altering powers to great effect. His favorite tactic is to freeze time then re-arrange battle scenes so [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]]s are hit with their own laser blasts. Nice.

==Fiction==
===''Beast Wars Neo'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Yōji Ietomi]] (Japanese)
{{charstubfiction}}

===''Beast Wars Neo'' comic===
[[Image:Heinrad timecop.jpg|right|120px|thumb|"You were expecting maybe [[Wikipedia:Timecop|Jean-Claude Van Damme]]?"]]
Heinrad was one of the five rookies among the crew of the ''[[Gung Ho]]'', or so everyone believed. In fact, he manipulated [[Vector Sigma]] in order to allow him to infiltrate Big Convoy's crew. {{storylink|Double Cross}}

He was beaten by [[Guiledart]] and [[Saberback]] [[Longrack (BWN)|along]] [[Break|with]] [[Stampy|other]] [[Cohrada|rookies]] in the Predacon base on the planet [[Gaea]]. Fortunately, the rookies were saved by [[Big Convoy]]. {{storylink|The Five Rookies}}

When Big Convoy went to [[Jörmungandr]] with Break, Stampy and Cohrada, he left Longrack in charge of the ''Gung Ho'' along with Heinrad.

After a while, two Predacons, [[Hydra (BWN)|Hydra]] and [[Hardhead (BWN)|Hardhead]], broke into the ''Gung Ho'', claiming they had placed a time bomb somewhere on the ship. After finding the bomb, Longrack tried to defuse it with a manual to guide him, but because of an omission in the manual and the misinterpretation of his vision, he cut the wrong wire. As the bomb started to detonate, Heinrad froze time and reversed it back to the moment when Longrack tried to cut the wrong wire. Heinrad placed Longrack's hand on the correct wire and started time again. Thus, the bomb was successfully defused.

Later on that day, Stampy walked by Heinrad's room and heard something. He peeped in on Heinrad out of curiosity and saw him looking serious, talking to [[Ruler of Time and Space|someone mysterious]] on his communication screen. Heinrad told his master he'd used his power due to the emergency, but stated there was no possibility that his identity had been blown. Stampy was frightened upon seeing the scene. {{storylink|A Battle Fought Alone}}

Heinrad later used his power to save Big Convoy from being eaten by Unicron along with Magmatron. He then revealed to Big Convoy his true identity as an undercover agent of the "Ruler of Time and Space". Before his disappearance, he asked Big Convoy to help destroy "the [[wiktionary:cron|cron]] of the universe"—[[Unicron]]. {{storylink|Double Cross}}

After the rookies' graduation, Heinrad showed up in front of Break, Longrack, Stampy, and Cohrada while they mourned for Big Convoy at the cemetery. He took them on a journey to a snowy planet to say goodbye to Big Convoy, who had been reborn as a mammoth named "Big". {{storylink|Return to Zero}}

===IDW ''Beast Wars'' comics===
[[Image:BigConvoyIDW1.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Time is on his side... Well, on his chest, really.]]
Heinrad was a member of the [[Bi-Partate Committee for State Affairs]], alongside [[Big Convoy]] and [[Magmatron]]. {{storylink|The Gathering issue 1|The Gathering #1}}

None of his fellow Maximals are sure if he's from the past, present or future. However, they believe he might not have full control over his [[chronal phase]] abilities, as sometimes he just blinks out of the timeline. {{storylink|Beast Wars Sourcebook}}
{{--}}
==Toys==
===Beast Wars Neo===
[[Image:BWN-toy Heinrad.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
* '''Heinrad''' (Ultra, 1999)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''S-3'''
**''Accessories:'' Notebook, sake bottle, 2 missiles

:Heinrad transforms into a tanuki. Tanuki in folklore are usually depicted with massive testicles which they can drum on. Heinrad's testicles are rather large for a Transformer (i.e. he has some), but quite small for a tanuki. His articulation, while good, does not allow him to drum on his testicles. In tanuki mode he can also hold a bottle of sake (tanuki are drunks) and a book of IOUs (used to trick people into giving him money).

:In robot mode, Heinrad can combine his folklore accessories to make a gun which can be held in his right hand. His missiles can be mounted on his calves, or fired with the gun. In this mode his testicles hang from his hips and his spark crystal is located in his right ball. Heinrad's weakness is clear.

:In both modes, Heinrad has a working analogue clock in his chest that is powered by a single AAA battery and actually keeps good time. He functions as an alarm clock: pull up on his robot head to activate him, then push down to turn off the alarm. He's very shrill. The alarm cannot be activated when Heinrad is in tanuki mode, as the activation switch (the robot head) is concealed.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1999/Cybertron/Heinlad/heinlad.htm More information on Heinrad at TFU.info]''
{{--}}
==Notes==
[[Image:HeinradAlarmClock1.jpg|right|200px|thumb|2 AM! Time for sake!]]
* A clock in the shape of Heinrad appears in [[Koji Onishi|Koji]]'s bedroom in the ''[[Robots in Disguise (cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]'' episode "[[Battle Protocol!]]".
{{--}}
==External links==
* [http://www.bwtf.com/comicbooks/idw/bwgathering1/ Script consultant's notes on Heinrad's appearance ''The Gathering'' #1.]
*Wikipedia articles about [[wikipedia:Raccoon Dog|Raccoon Dogs]] and their [[wikipedia:Tanuki|position in folklore]].

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[[Category:Beast Wars Neo characters]]
[[Category:Japanese-original characters]]
[[Category:Maximals]]
[[Category:Watches]]

Botanica (BM)

2010-08-07T02:21:57Z

Arborday: /* Notes */

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{{disambig2|the freedom fighter from Beast Machines|the council member from the Animated universe|Botanica (Animated)}}

:''Botanica is a [[Maximal]] from the [[Beast Machines (franchise)|Beast Machines]] portion of the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Botanica TechnorganicRobot.jpg|right|200px|thumb|The fandom somehow failed to [[Arcee (G1)|clamor]] for this one.]]
The Transformers have taken on myriad alternate forms over the years, but '''Botanica''' remains unique: she transforms into a mobile alien plant creature. She is competent and powerful, as well as a bit mystical, and has a strong connection to the planet and an affinity for growing things. A scientist first and foremost, she can be fastidious and fussy in her dedication to her work—sometimes to the point of overlooking the things that matter most.

==Fiction==
===''Beast Machines'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Kathleen Barr]] (English), [[Atsuko Tanaka]] (Japanese), [[Vera Miranda]] (Brazil)
[[Image:Botanica OriginalPlantMode.jpg|left|180px|thumb|REFORMAT ME, SEYMOUR.]]

Botanica captained the same sort of exploration mission that the [[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]] originally undertook. Landing on a [[Regalis V|planet]] dominated by plant life, including the mobile variety, her crew adopted forms based upon them to blend in and study them.

[[Image:Botanica5.jpg|right|180px|thumb|"Botanica, Triffid mode!"]]

When they received [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s fake distress signal, Botanica left the world and her crew behind and returned to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], where she was shot down. When [[Optimus Primal]] and his [[Maximal|Maximals]] investigated [[Botanica's ship|her ship]], they found her in a feral state. In her mobile, possibly carnivorous plant mode, she attacked them and then fled underground, spreading seeds as she went. The seeds immediately sprouted into various plants, the most insidious being rapidly-growing vines. Primal worried that, left unchecked, the plants she was producing would "destroy" the planet. She was somehow drawn to the technorganic orchard (and, [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] noted, its pipeline to the planet's organic core). Catching up with her there, Primal noticed that she was sparking the way the Maximals had when they were infected with Megatron's [[Transformation virus|virus]]. This gave him the idea to [[Reformatting|reformat]] her, which restored her sanity. She explained, "[Megatron's] attack shorted out my ship, along with my higher reasoning protocols." She had been acting out of pure self-preservation, but once she could think clearly, she became an instant ally. This was lucky for the Maximals, who were immediately set upon by [[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicons]]. Botanica converted to robot mode (notably without any training from Primal) and unleashed a chain-lightning attack that reduced a phalanx of [[Tank Drone]]s to dust. {{storylink|Home Soil}}

[[Image:Botanica LightningWeb.jpg|left|150px|thumb|We'll let you just go and win the war for us, then.]]

However, she seldom used her weaponry, arguing that the more the Maximals fought Megatron, the more they became like him. She instead spent all her time and energy tending to the orchard. Although Cheetor and [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] resented this, Primal accepted her reasons, and also reminded his team that they were more than enough to fight Megatron and [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]]. However, Botanica soon received a vision from the [[Allspark|Matrix]], which showed her how much pain Cybertron was in. Botanica abandoned her pacifism and joined in the fight, saving the Maximals from a trap [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] and [[Strika (BM)|Strika]] had formed. {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. I: The Strike}}

[[Image:Rattrap bm treehugger.jpg|right|150px|thumb|If you like to talk to tomatoes, if a squash can make you smile...]]

When Megatron was presumed dead, Botanica returned her focus to the orchard, with the help of a reluctant [[Rattrap]]. They began arguing over the other's respective priorities, but eventually [[Kiss|kissed]]. Despite pledging to delete it from memory, they showed obvious concern for each other. {{storylink|Spark of Darkness}} When the still alive Megatron launched an attack on the Maximal-held [[Grand Mal]], they were forced to raise the shields, which cut Botanica off from the [[organic core]]. Rattrap jettisoned her into an escape pod with a field projecting the same harmonics as the Grand Mal's shields, saving Botanica's life but also allowing Megatron to fire through the shields. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. I: The Downward Spiral}}

When Megatron was finally destroyed and Cybertron reformatted, Botanica eventually formed a [[Transformer romance|romantic relationship]] with Rattrap. So she likes small rodents. Deal with it. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future}}
{{-}}
====''Transformers Legends'' anthology====
{{Note|This takes place during "[[Spark of Darkness]]"}}
While Botanica and Rattrap were bickering in the [[technorganic orchard]], Megatron's spark animated a [[Motorcycle Drone|Cycle drone]] and attacked them. After a brief scuffle, the thing exploded, sending the pair diving for cover. {{storylink|Singularity Ablyss}}
{{-}}

===''Universe: Featuring the Wreckers''===

After the Spark War, Botanica was present on Cybertron for the latest [[Quintesson]] invasion. The planet spoke to her during the conflict, informing her of a greater threat coming from below. She took Rattrap and Nightscream with her to explore the planet's depths, where they ran across the [[Wrecker]]s' Quintesson ally, [[Al-Badur]]. Initially suspicious, the Maximals reluctantly accepted Al-Badur at his word after he used some old Quint codes to deactivate a third of the [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticon]] forces on the surface.

They made contact with what remained of the Wreckers, and Al-Badur brought them to a Quintesson banishing chamber, which could hopefully be used against their foe [[Cryotek (RID)|Cryotek]], who had mainlined some of [[Primus]]'s own power through the [[Divine Light]]. Naturally, Al-Badur tried to betray them, opening the banishment portal in the hopes of sending both Cryotek AND the assembled heroes to some distant void. Arcee warned the others in time so that only [[Sentinel Maximus]] was caught with Cryotek in the force field surrounding the portal. Botanica was also suffering her own problems -- the unique nature of the Quintesson chamber was cutting her off from her symbiotic connection to Cybertron's organic side. Using her electro-blasters against Cryotek had only further depleted her reserves, and she was forced to flee the chamber. She still managed to help from a distance, however, using her techno-organic vines to carry the injured [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus]] back into the fray, where he could do the most good. {{storylink|Wreckers: Finale Part II}}

==Notes==
* Botanica's pre-production name was '''Binary'''.

* Botanica is a rarity, in that she was a major recurring heroic character in a ''Transformers'' television show, but was apparently ''never'' intended [[To sell toys|to have a toy]].

[[Image:Botanica OriginalBody.jpg|right|200px|thumb|They laughed at the idea of a "ship's gardener." Oh, how they laughed.]]

* Assuming the Transformer seen in silhouette at right is Botanica, she remains the only plant-based Transformer ever seen in the canon. She states the other members of her crew also took plant modes, so she's not unique within the fictional universe. However, judging by the reactions of Optimus Primal and the other Maximals, they had either never heard of "Plantformers" before, or they are extremely rare. ([[Saberback]] and [[Sling]] could each partially transform themselves into plant-like shapes for disguise purposes, but in both the toys and the fiction these were not "full-body" transformations, instead more like a cloaking mode, and they were never purported to be living plants.)

* Yet another point of rarity: In both plant and robot mode, she has four hands (her arms divide at the elbow), and no true legs (she has roots in plant mode, and a sort of "hoverskirt" in robot mode).

* Another oddity: Botanica's technorganic transformation is different from all the others; instead of being surrounded by coloured lights, a ring of technorganic plants spring up, and shrink down, revealing her robot mode.

* One more point to lengthen her unusual scorecard: when in plant mode (which is most of the time), Botanica is the only Transformer to exhibit [[wikipedia:Heterochromia|heterochromia]]. While she has two yellow eyes in bot mode, her plant mode's left eye is green.

* Despite her pacifist ways, Botanica is well-armed, with several weapons at her disposal, including energy projectiles, electrical fields, and a "chain-lightning" attack that leaps from one enemy to another. Huh. [[Mirage (G1)|Surprisingly well-armed]] [[Ratchet (Movie)|for someone who]] [[Beachcomber (G1)#G1_Series|doesn't like to fight]].

* The planet that Botanica and her crew were sent to explore is apparently Planet Jungle from [[Mainframe Entertainment]]'s other toyline-based cartoon [[wikipedia:Shadow_Raiders|''Shadow Raiders'']]. Whether this is an intentional crossover or simply due to the recycling of backgrounds and animation models for budget reasons is unclear.

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Botanica (BM)

2010-08-07T01:46:52Z

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{{disambig2|the freedom fighter from Beast Machines|the council member from the Animated universe|Botanica (Animated)}}

:''Botanica is a [[Maximal]] from the [[Beast Machines (franchise)|Beast Machines]] portion of the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Botanica TechnorganicRobot.jpg|right|200px|thumb|The fandom somehow failed to [[Arcee (G1)|clamor]] for this one.]]
The Transformers have taken on myriad alternate forms over the years, but '''Botanica''' remains unique: she transforms into a mobile alien plant creature. She is competent and powerful, as well as a bit mystical, and has a strong connection to the planet and an affinity for growing things. A scientist first and foremost, she can be fastidious and fussy in her dedication to her work—sometimes to the point of overlooking the things that matter most.

==Fiction==
===''Beast Machines'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Kathleen Barr]] (English), [[Atsuko Tanaka]] (Japanese), [[Vera Miranda]] (Brazil)
[[Image:Botanica OriginalPlantMode.jpg|left|180px|thumb|REFORMAT ME, SEYMOUR.]]

Botanica captained the same sort of exploration mission that the [[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]] originally undertook. Landing on a [[Regalis V|planet]] dominated by plant life, including the mobile variety, her crew adopted forms based upon them to blend in and study them.

[[Image:Botanica5.jpg|right|180px|thumb|"Botanica, Triffid mode!"]]

When they received [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s fake distress signal, Botanica left the world and her crew behind and returned to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], where she was shot down. When [[Optimus Primal]] and his [[Maximal|Maximals]] investigated [[Botanica's ship|her ship]], they found her in a feral state. In her mobile, possibly carnivorous plant mode, she attacked them and then fled underground, spreading seeds as she went. The seeds immediately sprouted into various plants, the most insidious being rapidly-growing vines. Primal worried that, left unchecked, the plants she was producing would "destroy" the planet. She was somehow drawn to the technorganic orchard (and, [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] noted, its pipeline to the planet's organic core). Catching up with her there, Primal noticed that she was sparking the way the Maximals had when they were infected with Megatron's [[Transformation virus|virus]]. This gave him the idea to [[Reformatting|reformat]] her, which restored her sanity. She explained, "[Megatron's] attack shorted out my ship, along with my higher reasoning protocols." She had been acting out of pure self-preservation, but once she could think clearly, she became an instant ally. This was lucky for the Maximals, who were immediately set upon by [[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicons]]. Botanica converted to robot mode (notably without any training from Primal) and unleashed a chain-lightning attack that reduced a phalanx of [[Tank Drone]]s to dust. {{storylink|Home Soil}}

[[Image:Botanica LightningWeb.jpg|left|150px|thumb|We'll let you just go and win the war for us, then.]]

However, she seldom used her weaponry, arguing that the more the Maximals fought Megatron, the more they became like him. She instead spent all her time and energy tending to the orchard. Although Cheetor and [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] resented this, Primal accepted her reasons, and also reminded his team that they were more than enough to fight Megatron and [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]]. However, Botanica soon received a vision from the [[Allspark|Matrix]], which showed her how much pain Cybertron was in. Botanica abandoned her pacifism and joined in the fight, saving the Maximals from a trap [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] and [[Strika (BM)|Strika]] had formed. {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. I: The Strike}}

[[Image:Rattrap bm treehugger.jpg|right|150px|thumb|If you like to talk to tomatoes, if a squash can make you smile...]]

When Megatron was presumed dead, Botanica returned her focus to the orchard, with the help of a reluctant [[Rattrap]]. They began arguing over the other's respective priorities, but eventually [[Kiss|kissed]]. Despite pledging to delete it from memory, they showed obvious concern for each other. {{storylink|Spark of Darkness}} When the still alive Megatron launched an attack on the Maximal-held [[Grand Mal]], they were forced to raise the shields, which cut Botanica off from the [[organic core]]. Rattrap jettisoned her into an escape pod with a field projecting the same harmonics as the Grand Mal's shields, saving Botanica's life but also allowing Megatron to fire through the shields. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. I: The Downward Spiral}}

When Megatron was finally destroyed and Cybertron reformatted, Botanica eventually formed a [[Transformer romance|romantic relationship]] with Rattrap. So she likes small rodents. Deal with it. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future}}
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====''Transformers Legends'' anthology====
{{Note|This takes place during "[[Spark of Darkness]]"}}
While Botanica and Rattrap were bickering in the [[technorganic orchard]], Megatron's spark animated a [[Motorcycle Drone|Cycle drone]] and attacked them. After a brief scuffle, the thing exploded, sending the pair diving for cover. {{storylink|Singularity Ablyss}}
{{-}}

===''Universe: Featuring the Wreckers''===

After the Spark War, Botanica was present on Cybertron for the latest [[Quintesson]] invasion. The planet spoke to her during the conflict, informing her of a greater threat coming from below. She took Rattrap and Nightscream with her to explore the planet's depths, where they ran across the [[Wrecker]]s' Quintesson ally, [[Al-Badur]]. Initially suspicious, the Maximals reluctantly accepted Al-Badur at his word after he used some old Quint codes to deactivate a third of the [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticon]] forces on the surface.

They made contact with what remained of the Wreckers, and Al-Badur brought them to a Quintesson banishing chamber, which could hopefully be used against their foe [[Cryotek (RID)|Cryotek]], who had mainlined some of [[Primus]]'s own power through the [[Divine Light]]. Naturally, Al-Badur tried to betray them, opening the banishment portal in the hopes of sending both Cryotek AND the assembled heroes to some distant void. Arcee warned the others in time so that only [[Sentinel Maximus]] was caught with Cryotek in the force field surrounding the portal. Botanica was also suffering her own problems -- the unique nature of the Quintesson chamber was cutting her off from her symbiotic connection to Cybertron's organic side. Using her electro-blasters against Cryotek had only further depleted her reserves, and she was forced to flee the chamber. She still managed to help from a distance, however, using her techno-organic vines to carry the injured [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus]] back into the fray, where he could do the most good. {{storylink|Wreckers: Finale Part II}}

==Notes==
* Botanica's pre-production name was '''Binary'''.

* Botanica is a rarity, in that she was a major recurring heroic character in a ''Transformers'' television show, but was apparently ''never'' intended [[To sell toys|to have a toy]].

[[Image:Botanica OriginalBody.jpg|right|200px|thumb|They laughed at the idea of a "ship's gardener." Oh, how they laughed.]]

* Assuming the Transformer seen in silhouette at right is Botanica, she remains the only plant-based Transformer ever seen in the canon. She states the other members of her crew also took plant modes, so she's not unique within the fictional universe. However, judging by the reactions of Optimus Primal and the other Maximals, they had either never heard of "Plantformers" before, or they are extremely rare. ([[Saberback]] and [[Sling]] could each partially transform themselves into plant-like shapes for disguise purposes, but in both the toys and the fiction these were not "full-body" transformations, instead more like a cloaking mode, and they were never purported to be living plants.)

* Yet another point of rarity: In both plant and robot mode, she has four hands (her arms divide at the elbow), and no true legs (she has roots in plant mode, and a sort of "hoverskirt" in robot mode).

* Another oddity: Botanica's technorganic transformation is different from all the others; instead of being surrounded by coloured lights, a ring of technorganic plants spring up, and shrink down, revealing her robot mode.

* One more point to her lengthen her unusual scorecard: when in plant mode (which is most of the time), Botanica is the only Transformer to exhibit [[wikipedia:Heterochromia|heterochromia]]. While she has two yellow eyes in bot mode, her plant mode's left eye is green.

* Despite her pacifist ways, Botanica is well-armed, with several weapons at her disposal, including energy projectiles, electrical fields, and a "chain-lightning" attack that leaps from one enemy to another. Huh. [[Mirage (G1)|Surprisingly well-armed]] [[Ratchet (Movie)|for someone who]] [[Beachcomber (G1)#G1_Series|doesn't like to fight]].

* The planet that Botanica and her crew were sent to explore is apparently Planet Jungle from [[Mainframe Entertainment]]'s other toyline-based cartoon [[wikipedia:Shadow_Raiders|''Shadow Raiders'']]. Whether this is an intentional crossover or simply due to the recycling of backgrounds and animation models for budget reasons is unclear.

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The Ascending issue 4

2010-08-01T16:49:10Z

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{{comicstory|seriesissue=[[The Ascending|''Transformers: Beast Wars: The Ascending'']] #4
|prev=The Ascending issue 3
|image=BWAscending-04B.jpg
|caption=Hardhead likes the view, yes he does.
|publisher=[[IDW Publishing]]
|date=[[January 9]], [[2008]]
|coverdate=November 2007
|written by=[[Simon Furman]]
|art by=[[Guido Guidi]]
|colors by=[[Josh Burcham]]
|colors assist by=[[Andrew Elder]], [[Liam Shalloo]] and [[Josh Perez]]
|letters by=[[Chris Mowry]]
|edits by=[[Andrew Steven Harris]]
|continuity=[[Beast Wars cartoon continuity]]
}}

'''Maximals and Predacons unite on two worlds to stop Shokaract and the rise of Unicron.'''

==Synopsis==
Under Shokaract's instruction, [[Herald of Shokaract|his Heralds]] distribute [[Angolmois]] capsules to the crazed masses of Cybertron, with the intention of using the chaos and negative feelings to power the [[Matrix of Conquest|Anti-Matrix]] in Shokaract's chest. Observing the chaos is Big Convoy, who meets Bump, a "specialist" sent by Lio Convoy. Soon afterward, Big Convoy and his soldiers meet the [[Pack]], along with immigrants from Earth, including Ravage. Ravage chronally displaces himself to consult the time-lost Magmatron. Meanwhile, Lio Convoy requests that Bump study the Angolmois and create a retrovirus to counteract it—enough of it for all of Cybertron. In the netherspace, Magamtron proposes to Ravage a plan: Bring Shokaract to him so that he may be shown the true purpose of his "Ascending". He suggests getting a Maximal to do the suicide mission of placing the [[chronal phase facilitator]] on Shokaract himself.

On Earth, the Angolmois-drunk Razorbeast continues to battle the [[Blendtron]]s. Refusing to let the Blendtrons destroy them all, the left-behind Predacon and Maximal forces unite to take down the gigantic and powerful attackers. Optimus Minor checks on Razorbeast; he is still rational, but the Angolmois threatens his sanity. He tells Optimus Minor that he knows what to do then.

On Cybertron, Ravage has filled in the others about Magmatron's plan. Prowl II and Snarl are tasked with attaching the facilitator onto Shokaract, while others attack him to distract him. In the following battle, many die by Shokaract's hand. Back on Earth, Elephorca is destroyed by Razorbeast and Drancron is kicked into Rartorata's stinger, annihilating the both of them. The only challenge left is Razorbeast, who has now lost his inhibitions. Optimus Minor pleads with Razorbeast to not force his hand.

The battle against Shokaract goes as planned; Snarl and Prowl approach Shokaract while invisible, allowing Snarl to use the facilitator to transport Shokaract into Magmatron's netherspace. Shokaract's Heralds, baffled by his disappearance, are distracted long enough for Ravage to throw a grenade their way, scattering them. Magmatron shows Shokaract his true propose: to be a vessel of [[Unicron]]. Aghast at this revelation, Shokaract rips the Anti-Matrix from his chest, committing "spectacular suicide". This causes a "timelash" that sets Magmatron back into normal space on Cybertron. He delivers the sad news—Razorbeast was euthanized.

Bump delivers the first batch of the anti-Angolmois retrovirus, but he needs a proper lab to mass-produce it. Observing the sorry state of Cybertron, Lio Convoy and Big Convoy hope that no threat comes up while they're focused on rebuilding.

Unfortunately, Megatron has [[Beast Machines (cartoon)|arrived]].

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|h1=[[Maximal]]s|c1=
* [[Rockbuster]] (11)
* [[Santon]] (12)
* [[Scuba]] (13)
* [[Motorarm (BWII)|Motorarm]] (10)
* [[Tako Tank]] (14)
* [[Tonbot]] (15)
* [[Gimlet]] (16)
* [[Sharp Edge (BWN)|Sharp Edge]] (17)
* [[Bump]] (18)
* [[Big Convoy]] (19)
* [[Cohrada]] (20)
* [[Stampy]] (22)
* [[Survive]] (21)
* [[Apache]] (23)
* [[Break]] (24)
* [[Drill Nuts]] (25)
* [[Longrack (BWN)|Longrack]] (26)
* [[Lio Convoy]] (27)
* [[Razorbeast]] (31)
* [[Armordillo]] (34)
* [[Bantor]] (35)
* [[Claw Jaw]] (36)
* [[Cybershark]] (37)
* [[Optimus Minor]] (38)
* [[Ramulus]] (39)
* [[B'Boom]] (44)
* [[Stinkbomb]] (46)
* [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] (51)
* [[Prowl II]] (52)
* [[Snarl (BW)|Snarl]] (53)
* [[Air Hammer]] (54)
* [[Noctorro]] (56)
* [[Mach Kick]] (59)
* [[Torca]] (60)
* [[K-9]] (62)
* [[Wolfang (Maximal)|Wolfang]] (63)
* [[Bonecrusher (BW)|Bonecrusher]] (64)
* [[Polar Claw]] (66)
|h2=[[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]]|c2=
* [[Archadis]] (7)
* [[Autocrasher]] (8)
* [[Crazybolt]] (9)
* [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] (28)
* [[Magmatron]] (29)
* [[Retrax]] (40)
* [[Spittor (BW)|Spittor]] (41)
* [[Terragator]] (42)
* [[Manterror]] (43)
* [[Jetstorm (BW)|Jetstorm]] (45)
* [[Buzzclaw (BW)|Buzzclaw]] (47)
* [[Drill Bit (BW)|Drill Bit]] (48)
* [[Powerpinch]] (49)
* [[Snapper]] (50)
* [[Injector]] (55)
* [[Scourge (BW)|Scourge]] (57)
* [[Transquito]] (58)
* [[Insecticon (BW)|Insecticon]] (61)
* [[Manta Ray (BW)|Manta Ray]] (65)
* [[Lazorbeak]] (67)
* [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] (69)
|c4=
* [[Shokaract]] (1)
* [[Starscream (BWII)|Hellscream]] (2)
* [[Antagony]] (3)
* [[BB|Max-B]] (4)
* [[Thrust (BWII)|Thrustor]] (5)
* [[Hardhead (BWN)|Hardhead]] (6)
* [[Elephorca]] (30)
* [[Drancron]] (32)
* [[Rartorata]] (33)
* [[Unicron]] (68)
}}

==Errors==
* Snapper is mistakenly colored as Armordillo in the first panel on page 9.
* Drill Nuts is mistakenly colored as Drill Bit in one scene as Shokaract's Heralds attack him and Polar Claw.

==Items of note==
* Guido Guidi was tasked with the art for this issue due to the departure of [[Don Figueroa]] from [[IDW Publishing]]. Don provided the art for a cover before he left, however.
* On page 13, in the panel below the one in which Shokaract says "It begins." the head and shoulder of movie Optimus Prime is clearly visible.
* Ramulus's line "Let us throw ourselves headlong into the fray!" somewhat parallels a line he spoke in "[[Primeval Dawn]]"—"Lead me to the fray!" As well, Shokaract's line "Heralds... attend me!" is a direct quote from his previous iteration in [[Terminus]].
* Optimus Minor's line "Better to burn out than to fade away" is a quote from the Neil Young song "My My Hey Hey".
* Back when he wrote the ''[[Beast Machines (franchise)|Beast Machines]]'' section of ''[[Transformers: The Ultimate Guide]]'', Simon Furman noted that Megatron was able to escape his shackles on the Maximals' shuttle because it hit a "time disturbance." While there is nothing in the actual ''show'' that supports this notion, it is apparent that the "timelash" induced by Shokaract's suicide in this issue is the disturbance in question.

===Deaths===
In typical Furman fashion, many characters die in the battles against the Blendtrons and Shokaract. Those who die are:
*[[Noctorro]], [[Insecticon (BW)|Insecticon]], [[K-9]], and [[Wolfang (Maximal)|Wolfang]], by Shokaract's claw cannons.
*[[Elephorca]], by Razorbeast's mauling.
*[[Buzzclaw (BW)|Buzzclaw]] and an unidentified character, by Rartorata's vomit.
*Possibly [[Bantor]] and [[Manta Ray (BW)|Manta Ray]], being crushed by Drancron.
*[[Drancron]], [[Lazorbeak]], [[Rartorata]], and [[Spittor (BW)|Spittor]] with Drancron being forced into Rartorata's stinger, causing an explosion that destroys all of them.
*[[Prowl II]], by a stray beam.
*[[Shokaract]], committing suicide by ripping the Anti-Matrix out of his chest.
*[[Razorbeast]], fatally shot by Optimus Minor.

===Covers (4)===
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* '''Cover A:''' Shokaract; art by [[Nick Roche]].
* '''Cover B:''' Shokaract and minions; art by [[Don Figueroa]].
* '''Cover RIA:''' Uncolored version of cover A
* '''Cover RIB:''' Uncolored version of cover B

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Drift (G1)

2010-06-23T04:59:19Z

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{{disambig3|Drift}}
:''Drift is an [[Autobot]] from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW]] portion of the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:AHM 06 CoverA.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"Oh Drift-chan, you smell awesome, and not at all like feet!"]]

'''Drift''' (ドリフト ''Dorifuto'') was not always an Autobot. In fact, he slaughtered quite a few when he was known as the Decepticon '''Deadlock'''. But Deadlock's eyes were opened to what the Transformers' war had become when he stumbled across a lost faction of neutral Transformers long since forgotten. He discarded his ruthless ways, abandoned his guns for swords, and changed his name and appearance. When Drift returned to the Transformer war to make right what he put wrong, he was a bot of few words and disciplined action.

These days, Drift is a member of a ragtag team of rebels under the command of [[Kup (G1)|Kup]], working alongside many members of the disbanded [[Wrecker|Wreckers]]. Because of his brutal past, Drift isn't well-liked or trusted by [[Bumblebee (G1)|a few]] of the Autobots. The rest don't seem to care, or are [[Cliffjumper (G1)|genuinely impressed]] by his incredible skills, so long as they're used against the other side!

{{quote|We're going about this the wrong way, '''all''' of us! After countless centuries of fighting ... the Autobots are a '''step''' away from what we were when all this '''started.''' And us—the Decepticons have become something '''worse''' than any of us could have '''imagined'''.|Drift explains his new perception of the war to his [[Turmoil|former commander]]|"[[Spotlight: Drift]]"}}

==Fiction==
===IDW comics===
{{ongoing}}

[[Image:Drift1-Deadlock.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Deadlock prefers to pose so his legs don't block any of the action.]]

{{comingsoon|[[Transformers: Drift]] #1}}

While he was known as Deadlock, Drift used to be the second-in-command of the [[Decepticon]] [[Turmoil]]. During this time, he earned a reputation by slaughtering his Autobot opponents. At some point, Deadlock disappeared and was thought to be dead. Turmoil's only wish was that he had killed the traitor himself.

[[Image:SpotlightDrift Deadlockisdead.jpg|right|200px|thumb|He's your horrible fancharacter.]]

Some time later, after receiving a new body, fighting style and ''totally sugoi'' super-long sword that he can only use in the totally direst of times (and to pose for comic covers) from his mysterious benefactors, Drift set off to make a difference. His chance came in an attempt to free a group of Autobots held captive on the ship he'd previously served aboard. Upon entering Turmoil's ship, his attempt at stealth was successful until the [[Wrecker]]s arrived and blasted their way aboard. Jumping into the battle to assist them, he piqued the interest of a few Autobots. [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] was injured as Turmoil entered the battle and, recognizing Drift's voice as that of his former lieutenant, attempted to destroy him. However, his attack only resulted in knocking Drift and [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] to another room. The two quickly worked together to program the ship to overload. In his final confrontation with Turmoil, Drift stated his intention was to help, not kill, and left to rescue Perceptor before the ship blew up.

After his arrival on the Autobot ship, Kup invited Drift to join his new unit as an Autobot. {{storylink|Spotlight: Drift}}

[[Image:AHM15 DriftKupPerceptor.jpg|left|300px|thumb|Whenever Poochie's not onscreen, all the other characters should be asking "Where's Poochie"?]]

Now a crew member of the spacecraft ''[[Trion]]'', Drift got to know his new teammate [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] over many friendly games of [[Go]]. Perceptor felt he owed a debt to Drift for saving his life, and so devoted much of his time to upgrading himself for more combat-oriented tasks. While Kup discouraged this, Drift stoically accepted Perceptor's new ambitions. {{storylink|Lost & Found}}

[[Image:Allhailmegatron6-omgdriftomg.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Seriously, you made this guy up when you were eight.]]

They were soon baited into a Decepticon ambush over [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. The ''Trion'''s command codes were hacked due to their being sold to the Decepticons by an Autobot traitor, and, left defenseless, it was forced to crash-land on the desolate landscape of the planet. Eventually, the crew were found by [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]'s unit, who unfortunately proved to be ''also'' stranded. When [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] was revealed by [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] to have been standing invisibly among them, Drift was the only one who didn't appear surprised. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 5|All Hail Megatron #5}}

When an advance scout of the [[Insecticon swarm|Insecticon Swarm]] discovered the Autobots' base camp, Drift was dispatched to take care of it. Drift stood stock-still as the creature walked up to him, greeting it with a simple, smirking "hello" as the monstrous beast snarled in his face. Finally, he beheaded the scout with a single wave of his sword. A second creature tried to attack Drift from behind, but the smirking Autobot merely tilted his head slightly, allowing [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] to kill the beast with some precision sniping. [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] thought the incident was the coolest thing ever. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 6|All Hail Megatron #6}}

After [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] revealed to [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] that he was the traitor, an army of the Swarm came after them. Drift saved Ironhide while Sunstreaker blew up a bridge, killing himself and the Swarm army. Later, Drift visited Ironhide and claimed that the Decepticons had access to the Autobots' systems in a way that Sunstreaker couldn't possibly have. Ironhide asked if this meant there was a second traitor, but Drift replied that there was simply more to the situation than they knew. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 8|All Hail Megatron #8}}

[[Image:Thundercracker Drift.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Drift-slap! 'Cracker don't take crap!]]

When Mirage was showing some doubt in the Autobot cause, it was Drift who said that, now more than ever, the Autobots should continue being who they are. [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] insinuated that Drift had no right to say something like that, which started an argument that was only stopped by the return of Optimus Prime. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 9|All Hail Megatron #9}}

Drift took part in the battle against the Swarm and joined the others in escaping Cybertron in Omega Supreme. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 10|All Hail Megatron #10}}. On Earth, he battled the Decepticons, and when [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] volunteered to divert the humans' nuclear bomb, Drift attempted to congratulate his former comrade on seeing the light. Thundercracker called him a traitor, slapping Drift's hand away and claiming he was merely following the Decepticons' ''true'' ideal.{{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 12|All Hail Megatron #12}}

Two years later, Drift is still with the Autobots, hiding on Earth. {{storylink|...For All Mankind}} After Optimus Prime left the Autobots, Drift decided to stay with the larger group, rather than leave with Rodimus and his fellow defectors. Drift celebrated Bumblebee's election with numerous other Autobots. {{storylink|The Hanging Sword}}

===Robot Heroes===
Drift was [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime's]] friend and always let his actions speak louder than words. When the Autobots arrived on Earth, he hid himself in a lake. Upon Optimus's order, he transformed into his car mode to roll out. Later, when the Decepticons attacked, he pushed [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] over a tripwire held by some of the Autobots' [[human allies]]. {{storylink|I Am Optimus Prime (Robot Heroes)|I Am Optimus Prime}}

==Toys==
===Generations===
[[Image:Generations Drift toy.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Comes with a gun that shoots swords.]]
*'''Autobot Drift''' (Deluxe, 2010)
**''Accessories'': Two "dual swords", one large sword

:Drift transforms into a genericised [[Wikipedia:Mitsubishi FTO|Mitsubishi FTO]]. In vehicle mode, Drift's two shorter "dual swords" store inside his doors (which double as his hip sheaths during robot mode), while the larger sword stores in a set of grooves on the underside of his vehicle (also used in robot mode). Behind his windshield kibble is his pre-Earth chest design, in a nod to the form Drift had been seen in almost exclusively at the time of the toy's unveiling. Due to his ball jointed wrists, Drift is one of the few Transformers figures that can hold a sword with a two-handed grip.

:While Drift's Earth mode designs showed him sporting the katakana ドリフト ("drift") on his car doors, the toy instead sports the kanji 侍 ("samurai"). The large sword sports the kanji 天下無双 (''tenka musō'', "peerless under heaven", or just "peerless" if you're not feeling idiomatic.)

:[[IDW Publishing]] initially claimed that Drift had been solicited by [[Hasbro]] to receive a toy in the ''[[Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' line. This may have been premature, as it was followed several months later with a denial, albeit from Hasbro's Australian offices.<ref>[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=3438 Ozformers Q&A with Hasbro Australia]</ref> This was rebutted by IDW editor [[Chris Ryall]] at New York Comic-Con 2009, denied again in the March 2009 Hasbro Q&A for Seibertron.com<ref>[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/hasbro-answers-seibertrons-questions/15360 Hasbro March 2009 Q&A on Seibertron.com]</ref>, and finally acknowledged by Hasbro at [[BotCon 2009]], when early design sketches were unveiled for Drift's toy. The toy itself was first shown at [[Toy Fair 2010]].

: Drift's mold will be retooled into ''Generations'' [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]].

{{comingsoontoy}}

==Notes==
* Commenting on what inspired him to create Drift, writer/creator [[Shane McCarthy]] said that "I wanted a character in AHM that had a particular element to him that I didn’t see readily available elsewhere and secondly because, frankly, I thought it would be a great idea for Hasbro to have an Autobot Drift racer."<ref>[http://www.smactalk.com.au/?p=101 Shane McCarthy blogs about Spotlight: Drift.]</ref> He later said he wanted to show what'd happen if a former Decepticon became an Autobot. <ref>[http://tformers.com/article.php?sid=11723 Podcast interview with Shane McCarthy]</ref> Of course, this has never [[:Category:Turncoats|happened before]].

* According to McCarthy, Drift's Japanese overtones are meant to be a tip of the hat "to the country that gave birth to [''Transformers'']."<ref>[http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18585 Comic Book Resources October 27th, 2008 interview with Shane McCarthy]</ref> It is possible (though unlikely given how many people mistakenly believe ''Transformers'' is Japanese) that he meant ''[[Diaclone]]'' and ''[[Micro Change]]'', as the ''[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]'' franchise was developed between [[Hasbro]], [[Griffin Bacal]] and [[Marvel Comics|Marvel Entertainment]], three American companies.

* Drift's name is derived from the Japanese driving technique of "[[wikipedia:Drifting_(motorsport)|drifting]]", rendered in Japanese as ドリフト走行 (''dorifuto sōkō''). This is also the source of the Japanese Katakana writing on his car mode doors and in Chris Ryall's announcement;<ref>[http://ryalltime.blogspot.com/2008/12/blog-post.html "ドリフト走行*" entry in Chris Ryall's blog]</ref> it is a transliteration of his English name and is not from Japanese fiction.

==References==
<references />

[[Category:Autobots]]
[[Category:Decepticons]]
[[Category:Generation 1 characters]]
[[Category:Generations]]
[[Category:Turncoats]]

Drift (G1)

2010-06-23T04:59:05Z

Arborday: /* IDW comics */

{{factions|autobot|decepticon}}
{{disambig3|Drift}}
:''Drift is an [[Autobot]] from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW]] portion of the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:AHM 06 CoverA.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"Oh Drift-chan, you smell awesome, and not at all like feet!"]]

'''Drift''' (ドリフト ''Dorifuto'') was not always an Autobot. In fact, he slaughtered quite a few when he was known as the Decepticon '''Deadlock'''. But Deadlock's eyes were opened to what the Transformers' war had become when he stumbled across a lost faction of neutral Transformers long since forgotten. He discarded his ruthless ways, abandoned his guns for swords, and changed his name and appearance. When Drift returned to the Transformer war to make right what he put wrong, he was a bot of few words and disciplined action.

These days, Drift is a member of a ragtag team of rebels under the command of [[Kup (G1)|Kup]], working alongside many members of the disbanded [[Wrecker|Wreckers]]. Because of his brutal past, Drift isn't well-liked or trusted by [[Bumblebee (G1)|a few]] of the Autobots. The rest don't seem to care, or are [[Cliffjumper (G1)|genuinely impressed]] by his incredible skills, so long as they're used against the other side!

{{quote|We're going about this the wrong way, '''all''' of us! After countless centuries of fighting ... the Autobots are a '''step''' away from what we were when all this '''started.''' And us—the Decepticons have become something '''worse''' than any of us could have '''imagined'''.|Drift explains his new perception of the war to his [[Turmoil|former commander]]|"[[Spotlight: Drift]]"}}

==Fiction==
===IDW comics===
{{ongoing}}

[[Image:Drift1-Deadlock.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Deadlock prefers to pose so his legs don't block any of the action.]]

{{comingsoon|[[Transformers: Drift]] #1}}

While he was known as Deadlock, Drift used to be the second-in-command of the [[Decepticon]] [[Turmoil]]. During this time, he earned a reputation by slaughtering his Autobot opponents. At some point, Deadlock disappeared and was thought to be dead. Turmoil's only wish was that he had killed the traitor himself.

[[Image:SpotlightDrift Deadlockisdead.jpg|right|200px|thumb|He's your horrible fancharacter.]]

Some time later, after receiving a new body, fighting style and ''totally sugoi'' super-long sword that he can only use in the totally direst of times (and to pose for comic covers) from his mysterious benefactors, Drift set off to make a difference. His chance came in an attempt to free a group of Autobots held captive on the ship he'd previously served aboard. Upon entering Turmoil's ship, his attempt at stealth was successful until the [[Wrecker]]s arrived and blasted their way aboard. Jumping into the battle to assist them, he piqued the interest of a few Autobots. [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] was injured as Turmoil entered the battle and, recognizing Drift's voice as that of his former lieutenant, attempted to destroy him. However, his attack only resulted in knocking Drift and [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] to another room. The two quickly worked together to program the ship to overload. In his final confrontation with Turmoil, Drift stated his intention was to help, not kill, and left to rescue Perceptor before the ship blew up.

After his arrival on the Autobot ship, Kup invited Drift to join his new unit as an Autobot. {{storylink|Spotlight: Drift}}

[[Image:AHM15 DriftKupPerceptor.jpg|left|300px|thumb|whenever Poochie's not onscreen, all the other characters should be asking "Where's Poochie"?]]

Now a crew member of the spacecraft ''[[Trion]]'', Drift got to know his new teammate [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] over many friendly games of [[Go]]. Perceptor felt he owed a debt to Drift for saving his life, and so devoted much of his time to upgrading himself for more combat-oriented tasks. While Kup discouraged this, Drift stoically accepted Perceptor's new ambitions. {{storylink|Lost & Found}}

[[Image:Allhailmegatron6-omgdriftomg.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Seriously, you made this guy up when you were eight.]]

They were soon baited into a Decepticon ambush over [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. The ''Trion'''s command codes were hacked due to their being sold to the Decepticons by an Autobot traitor, and, left defenseless, it was forced to crash-land on the desolate landscape of the planet. Eventually, the crew were found by [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]'s unit, who unfortunately proved to be ''also'' stranded. When [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] was revealed by [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] to have been standing invisibly among them, Drift was the only one who didn't appear surprised. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 5|All Hail Megatron #5}}

When an advance scout of the [[Insecticon swarm|Insecticon Swarm]] discovered the Autobots' base camp, Drift was dispatched to take care of it. Drift stood stock-still as the creature walked up to him, greeting it with a simple, smirking "hello" as the monstrous beast snarled in his face. Finally, he beheaded the scout with a single wave of his sword. A second creature tried to attack Drift from behind, but the smirking Autobot merely tilted his head slightly, allowing [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] to kill the beast with some precision sniping. [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] thought the incident was the coolest thing ever. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 6|All Hail Megatron #6}}

After [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] revealed to [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] that he was the traitor, an army of the Swarm came after them. Drift saved Ironhide while Sunstreaker blew up a bridge, killing himself and the Swarm army. Later, Drift visited Ironhide and claimed that the Decepticons had access to the Autobots' systems in a way that Sunstreaker couldn't possibly have. Ironhide asked if this meant there was a second traitor, but Drift replied that there was simply more to the situation than they knew. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 8|All Hail Megatron #8}}

[[Image:Thundercracker Drift.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Drift-slap! 'Cracker don't take crap!]]

When Mirage was showing some doubt in the Autobot cause, it was Drift who said that, now more than ever, the Autobots should continue being who they are. [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] insinuated that Drift had no right to say something like that, which started an argument that was only stopped by the return of Optimus Prime. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 9|All Hail Megatron #9}}

Drift took part in the battle against the Swarm and joined the others in escaping Cybertron in Omega Supreme. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 10|All Hail Megatron #10}}. On Earth, he battled the Decepticons, and when [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] volunteered to divert the humans' nuclear bomb, Drift attempted to congratulate his former comrade on seeing the light. Thundercracker called him a traitor, slapping Drift's hand away and claiming he was merely following the Decepticons' ''true'' ideal.{{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 12|All Hail Megatron #12}}

Two years later, Drift is still with the Autobots, hiding on Earth. {{storylink|...For All Mankind}} After Optimus Prime left the Autobots, Drift decided to stay with the larger group, rather than leave with Rodimus and his fellow defectors. Drift celebrated Bumblebee's election with numerous other Autobots. {{storylink|The Hanging Sword}}

===Robot Heroes===
Drift was [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime's]] friend and always let his actions speak louder than words. When the Autobots arrived on Earth, he hid himself in a lake. Upon Optimus's order, he transformed into his car mode to roll out. Later, when the Decepticons attacked, he pushed [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] over a tripwire held by some of the Autobots' [[human allies]]. {{storylink|I Am Optimus Prime (Robot Heroes)|I Am Optimus Prime}}

==Toys==
===Generations===
[[Image:Generations Drift toy.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Comes with a gun that shoots swords.]]
*'''Autobot Drift''' (Deluxe, 2010)
**''Accessories'': Two "dual swords", one large sword

:Drift transforms into a genericised [[Wikipedia:Mitsubishi FTO|Mitsubishi FTO]]. In vehicle mode, Drift's two shorter "dual swords" store inside his doors (which double as his hip sheaths during robot mode), while the larger sword stores in a set of grooves on the underside of his vehicle (also used in robot mode). Behind his windshield kibble is his pre-Earth chest design, in a nod to the form Drift had been seen in almost exclusively at the time of the toy's unveiling. Due to his ball jointed wrists, Drift is one of the few Transformers figures that can hold a sword with a two-handed grip.

:While Drift's Earth mode designs showed him sporting the katakana ドリフト ("drift") on his car doors, the toy instead sports the kanji 侍 ("samurai"). The large sword sports the kanji 天下無双 (''tenka musō'', "peerless under heaven", or just "peerless" if you're not feeling idiomatic.)

:[[IDW Publishing]] initially claimed that Drift had been solicited by [[Hasbro]] to receive a toy in the ''[[Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' line. This may have been premature, as it was followed several months later with a denial, albeit from Hasbro's Australian offices.<ref>[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=3438 Ozformers Q&A with Hasbro Australia]</ref> This was rebutted by IDW editor [[Chris Ryall]] at New York Comic-Con 2009, denied again in the March 2009 Hasbro Q&A for Seibertron.com<ref>[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/hasbro-answers-seibertrons-questions/15360 Hasbro March 2009 Q&A on Seibertron.com]</ref>, and finally acknowledged by Hasbro at [[BotCon 2009]], when early design sketches were unveiled for Drift's toy. The toy itself was first shown at [[Toy Fair 2010]].

: Drift's mold will be retooled into ''Generations'' [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]].

{{comingsoontoy}}

==Notes==
* Commenting on what inspired him to create Drift, writer/creator [[Shane McCarthy]] said that "I wanted a character in AHM that had a particular element to him that I didn’t see readily available elsewhere and secondly because, frankly, I thought it would be a great idea for Hasbro to have an Autobot Drift racer."<ref>[http://www.smactalk.com.au/?p=101 Shane McCarthy blogs about Spotlight: Drift.]</ref> He later said he wanted to show what'd happen if a former Decepticon became an Autobot. <ref>[http://tformers.com/article.php?sid=11723 Podcast interview with Shane McCarthy]</ref> Of course, this has never [[:Category:Turncoats|happened before]].

* According to McCarthy, Drift's Japanese overtones are meant to be a tip of the hat "to the country that gave birth to [''Transformers'']."<ref>[http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18585 Comic Book Resources October 27th, 2008 interview with Shane McCarthy]</ref> It is possible (though unlikely given how many people mistakenly believe ''Transformers'' is Japanese) that he meant ''[[Diaclone]]'' and ''[[Micro Change]]'', as the ''[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]'' franchise was developed between [[Hasbro]], [[Griffin Bacal]] and [[Marvel Comics|Marvel Entertainment]], three American companies.

* Drift's name is derived from the Japanese driving technique of "[[wikipedia:Drifting_(motorsport)|drifting]]", rendered in Japanese as ドリフト走行 (''dorifuto sōkō''). This is also the source of the Japanese Katakana writing on his car mode doors and in Chris Ryall's announcement;<ref>[http://ryalltime.blogspot.com/2008/12/blog-post.html "ドリフト走行*" entry in Chris Ryall's blog]</ref> it is a transliteration of his English name and is not from Japanese fiction.

==References==
<references />

[[Category:Autobots]]
[[Category:Decepticons]]
[[Category:Generation 1 characters]]
[[Category:Generations]]
[[Category:Turncoats]]

At Fight's End

2010-06-01T19:30:34Z

Arborday:

{{comicstory|
|seriesissue=[[Timelines (fiction)|Timelines]]
|prev=Blitzwing Bop
|next=Flames of Yesterday
|seriesissue2=[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]
|prev2=Cheap Shots
|image=Atfightsend.jpg
|caption=Featuring a cast of none of these!
|title="At Fight's End"
|publisher=[[Fun Publications]]
|date=[[December 23]], [[2009]]
|written by=[[Pete Sinclair]] and [[Jesse Wittenrich]]
|illustrations by=[[Evan Gauntt]]
|cover=
|pagecount=12pp
|continuity=[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]
}}
'''The Decepticon Civil War comes to a close as Megatron advances on Bludgeon.'''

==Synopsis==
In a [[Ark (G1)|dark chamber]], [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] tries to explain his philosophy to his prisoner [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]], but Ratchet won't have it. Although the medic's body is broken, his spirit is still strong. Megatron turns from the conversation to check in with [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Octane|Octane]], and [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]]. Confirming that his plans against Buldgeon are reaching fruition, Megatron is pleased.

Meanwhile, in his own fortress on another planet, [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] confidently plots to engage his forces against Megatron's. [[Darkwing]] informs the [[Pretender]] that he has just identified [[Hun-Gurrr|Hun-Grrr]] as a traitor. Bludgeon orders [[Snaptrap (G1)|Snaptrap]] to gather his group. Meeting Hun-Grrr in the armory, Bludgeon attacks. The [[Terrorcon (G1)|Terrorcons]] [[combiner|merge]], and the [[Seacon (G1)|Seacons]] follow suit. A battle ensues between [[Piranacon (G1)|Piranacon]] and [[Abominus (SG)|Abominus]], with the Seacon combiner triumphant. Bludgeon is eager to put the incident behind them and continue with battle preparations.

Bludgeon returns to the command room in time to witness Megatron's fleet arrive in orbit. The Seacons seem to busy themselves readying the attack, but Bludgeon realizes too late that he has been had. The stealthily-formed Piranacon bares down on the Pretender with his [[Tentakil (G1)|Mass-Compression Cannon]] and fires at point-blank range. Just before his demise, Bludgeon's last thoughts acknowledge Megatron as the superior tactician.

With Bludgeon now out of the way, Starscream's thoughts turn back to his primary obstacle, Megatron.

Back in his dark hideout, Megatron, having reclaimed leadership of the Decepticons, gloats to Ratchet. The tyrant then carries the battered Autobot to a [[CR chamber]]. Before leaving, Megatron imparts a few final words: they fight not for victory or to prevent loss, but because fighting is their very purpose.

Some time later, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], and [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] extract Ratchet from the vat, the former prisoner's body fully reformatted. After his celebrated return, Ratchet sits in a shining medical bay inside the Autobot's Earth headquarters. He reflects ruefully on Megatron's last words to him. They fight because it is who they are.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|h1=[[Autobot]]s|c1=
* [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] (1)
* [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] (28)
* [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] (29)
* [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] (30)
|h2=[[Decepticon]]s|c2=
* [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] (2)
* [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] (3)
* [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] (4)
* [[Octane]] (5)
* [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] (6)
* [[Snaptrap (G1)|Snaptrap]] (7)
* [[Darkwing]] (8)
* [[Hun-Gurrr|Hun-Grr]] (9)
* [[Nautilator]] (10)
* [[Overbite (G1)|Overbite]] (11)
* [[Seawing (G1)|Seawing]] (12)
* [[Skalor]] (13)
* [[Tentakil (G1)|Tentakil]] (14)
* [[Blot (G1)|Blot]] (15)
* [[Cutthroat (G1)|Cutthroat]] (16)
* [[Rippersnapper (G1)|Rippersnapper]] (17)
* [[Sinnertwin (G1)|Sinnertwin]] (18)
* [[Abominus (G1)|Abominus]] (19)
* [[Piranacon (G1)|Piranacon]] (20)
* [[Storm Cloud (G1)|Stormcloud]] (21)
* [[Battletrap]] (22)
* [[Gutcruncher (G1)|Gutcruncher]] (23)
* [[Crankcase (G1)|Crankcase]] (24)
* [[Krok (G1)|Krok]] (25)
* [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] (26)
* [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] (27)
}}

==Quotes==

==Notes==

* Hun-Grrr has been upgraded into his three-headed dragon mode from ''Classics''. He still retains the ability to form Abominus.
* The Seacons have also been upgraded into their ''Timelines'' reissue colors. Whether or not they employ their new Targetmaster weapons from the ''Timelines'' tech-specs is hit-or-miss: Tentakill is now a mass compression cannon instead of a lightning rifle, but Overbite and Nautilator retain their original weapon modes.
* Although not visually depicted, many of the Decepticons named in the issue have had [[Darkwing|new]] [[Storm Cloud|releases]], or [[Crankcase (Movie)#Toys|homages in]] [[Sparkcrusher|other franchises]]. [[Battletrap]] and [[Krok]] were apparently just thrown in as a nod to Bludgeon's crew from the end of the US comic.

===Errors===
* None yet identified

===Transformer references===
* Ratchet is still in the care of Megatron, following their time spent fused into one body and subsequently separated in the original Marvel material. This story thread was neglected in the [[Generation 2]] comics.

* Megatron recalls the "[[Underbase]] fiasco," when a young Optimus [[The Flames of Boltax!|kept the Underbase from Megatron's grasp]] by launching it into space. Megatron recalls this as one of the few times Optimus acted strongly against him.

* Megatron's troops assemble into a formation called "Offensive Strategy [[LV-117]]," which is the name of the planet [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] crashed into in the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity]].

* Megatron places Ratchet's body in a [[CR chamber|CR tank]]. It reformats Ratchet into his ''[[Henkei! Henkei!]]'' body.

===Real-world references===

==External links==
* [http://www.transformersclub.com/members/fiction.cfm Transformers Collectors' Club exclusive fiction] (must be a logged-in member to access)

[[Category:Classics]]
[[Category:Text stories]]

Flames of Yesterday

2010-06-01T19:29:29Z

Arborday: /* Transformer references */

{{Comicstory|
|seriesissue=[[Timelines (fiction)|''Transformers: Timelines'']]
|prev=At Fight's End
|next=Transhuman
|seriesissue2=''[[Wings of Honor continuity|Wings of Honor]]''
|prev2=The Coming Storm: Part 2
|next2=The Coming Storm: Part 3
|title="The Flames of Yesterday"
|publisher=[[Transformers Collectors' Club]] (online exclusive)
|date=[[May 24]], 2010
|written by=[[Jesse Wittenrich]]
|illustration by=[[Jesse Wittenrich]] and [[Andrew Griffith]]
|pagecount=44pp
|continuity=[[Wings of Honor continuity|Wings of Honor]]
}}
'''A mission babysitting archaeologists turns into a showdown with Cybertron's past.'''

==Synopsis==

{{stub}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters|c1=
* [[Dion]] (1)
* [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]] (2)
* [[Metalhawk]] (3)
* [[Sentinel Major]] (4)
* [[Magnum]] (5)
* [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] (6)
* [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] (7)
* [[Vortex (G1)|Vortex]] (8)
* [[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]] (9)
* [[Ironfist]] (10)
* [[Over-Run (G1)|Over-Run]] (11)
* [[Big Bang]] (12)
* [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] (13)
* [[Strika (G1)|Strika]] (14)
* [[Flip Sides]] (15)
* [[Glyph (G1)|Glyph]] (16)
* [[Green Female Autobot|Greenlight]] (17)
* [[Orange Female Autobot|Lancer]] (18)
* [[Outback]] (33)
|c2=
* [[Drench (Decepticon)|Drench]] (19)
* [[Hydradread]] (20)
* [[Rage]] (21)
* [[Metrotitan (G1)|The Metrotitan]] (25)
* [[Roadgrabber]] (26)
* [[Aquablast]] (27)
* [[Terror-Tread]] (28)
* [[Cement-Head]] (29)
* [[Unreleased toy|Buffalo Dump]] (30)
* [[Minotrons]] (31)
* [[Brimstone (Universe)|Brimstone]] (32)
* [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]] (34)
* [[Lyzack]] (35)
}}

==Quotes==
"Wow, if even Brawl doesn’t want to stand and fight, you know that running’s the better option!"
:—'''Dion''' does [[Furmanism]]s wrong.

==Notes==
===Errors===

===Transformer references===
* Several characters are name-dropped or described in the story, but never seen; [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)|Thunderblast]], [[Covenant|Leonicus]], [[Scorpius]], [[Thunder Clash]], [[Landshark]], [[Traachon]], and [[Falcon (G1)|Falcon]]. The members of the [[Covenant]] are depicted as constellations, and a legend of Leonicus fighting an Ice Demon is referred to.
* [[Drench (Autobot)|Both]] [[Drench (Decepticon)|verions]] of G2 Drench are made into the same character here, as the Decepticon ends up defecting to the Elite Guard with a retrofit and a new paint job.

===Real-world references===

==References==
<references/>

==External links==
* [http://www.transformersclub.com/members/fiction.cfm Transformers Collectors' Club exclusive fiction] (must be a logged-in member to access)

[[Category:Text stories]]
[[Category:Fun Publications]]

Flames of Yesterday

2010-06-01T19:28:21Z

Arborday: /* Featured characters */

{{Comicstory|
|seriesissue=[[Timelines (fiction)|''Transformers: Timelines'']]
|prev=At Fight's End
|next=Transhuman
|seriesissue2=''[[Wings of Honor continuity|Wings of Honor]]''
|prev2=The Coming Storm: Part 2
|next2=The Coming Storm: Part 3
|title="The Flames of Yesterday"
|publisher=[[Transformers Collectors' Club]] (online exclusive)
|date=[[May 24]], 2010
|written by=[[Jesse Wittenrich]]
|illustration by=[[Jesse Wittenrich]] and [[Andrew Griffith]]
|pagecount=44pp
|continuity=[[Wings of Honor continuity|Wings of Honor]]
}}
'''A mission babysitting archaeologists turns into a showdown with Cybertron's past.'''

==Synopsis==

{{stub}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters|c1=
* [[Dion]] (1)
* [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]] (2)
* [[Metalhawk]] (3)
* [[Sentinel Major]] (4)
* [[Magnum]] (5)
* [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] (6)
* [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] (7)
* [[Vortex (G1)|Vortex]] (8)
* [[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]] (9)
* [[Ironfist]] (10)
* [[Over-Run (G1)|Over-Run]] (11)
* [[Big Bang]] (12)
* [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] (13)
* [[Strika (G1)|Strika]] (14)
* [[Flip Sides]] (15)
* [[Glyph (G1)|Glyph]] (16)
* [[Green Female Autobot|Greenlight]] (17)
* [[Orange Female Autobot|Lancer]] (18)
* [[Outback]] (33)
|c2=
* [[Drench (Decepticon)|Drench]] (19)
* [[Hydradread]] (20)
* [[Rage]] (21)
* [[Metrotitan (G1)|The Metrotitan]] (25)
* [[Roadgrabber]] (26)
* [[Aquablast]] (27)
* [[Terror-Tread]] (28)
* [[Cement-Head]] (29)
* [[Unreleased toy|Buffalo Dump]] (30)
* [[Minotrons]] (31)
* [[Brimstone (Universe)|Brimstone]] (32)
* [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]] (34)
* [[Lyzack]] (35)
}}

==Quotes==
"Wow, if even Brawl doesn’t want to stand and fight, you know that running’s the better option!"
:—'''Dion''' does [[Furmanism]]s wrong.

==Notes==
===Errors===

===Transformer references===
* Several characters are name-dropped in the story, but never seen; [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)|Thunderblast]], [[Covenant|Leonicus]], [[Scorpius]], [[Thunder Clash]], [[Landshark]], [[Traachon]], and [[Falcon (G1)|Falcon]]. The members of the [[Covenant]] are depicted as constellations, and a legend of Leonicus fighting an Ice Demon is referred to.
* [[Drench (Autobot)|Both]] [[Drench (Decepticon)|verions]] of G2 Drench are made into the same character here, as the Decepticon ends up defecting to the Elite Guard with a retrofit and a new paint job.

===Real-world references===

==References==
<references/>

==External links==
* [http://www.transformersclub.com/members/fiction.cfm Transformers Collectors' Club exclusive fiction] (must be a logged-in member to access)

[[Category:Text stories]]
[[Category:Fun Publications]]

Flames of Yesterday

2010-06-01T19:26:37Z

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{{Comicstory|
|seriesissue=[[Timelines (fiction)|''Transformers: Timelines'']]
|prev=At Fight's End
|next=Transhuman
|seriesissue2=''[[Wings of Honor continuity|Wings of Honor]]''
|prev2=The Coming Storm: Part 2
|next2=The Coming Storm: Part 3
|title="The Flames of Yesterday"
|publisher=[[Transformers Collectors' Club]] (online exclusive)
|date=[[May 24]], 2010
|written by=[[Jesse Wittenrich]]
|illustration by=[[Jesse Wittenrich]] and [[Andrew Griffith]]
|pagecount=44pp
|continuity=[[Wings of Honor continuity|Wings of Honor]]
}}
'''A mission babysitting archaeologists turns into a showdown with Cybertron's past.'''

==Synopsis==

{{stub}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters|c1=
* [[Dion]] (1)
* [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]] (2)
* [[Metalhawk]] (3)
* [[Sentinel Major]] (4)
* [[Magnum]] (5)
* [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] (6)
* [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] (7)
* [[Vortex (G1)|Vortex]] (8)
* [[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]] (9)
* [[Ironfist]] (10)
* [[Over-Run (G1)|Over-Run]] (11)
* [[Big Bang]] (12)
* [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] (13)
* [[Strika (G1)|Strika]] (14)
* [[Flip Sides]] (15)
* [[Glyph (G1)|Glyph]] (16)
* [[Green Female Autobot|Greenlight]] (17)
* [[Orange Female Autobot|Lancer]] (18)
* [[Outback]] (33)
|c2=
* [[Drench (Decepticon)|Drench]] (19)
* [[Hydradread]] (20)
* [[Rage]] (21)
* [[Metrotitan (G1)|The Metrotitan]] (25)
* [[Roadgrabber]] (26)
* [[Aquablast]] (27)
* [[Terror-Tread]] (28)
* [[Cement-Head]] (29)
* [[Unreleased Toy|Buffalo Dump]] (30)
* [[Minotrons]] (31)
* [[Brimstone (Universe)|Brimstone]] (32)
* [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]] (34)
* [[Lyzack]] (35)
}}

==Quotes==
"Wow, if even Brawl doesn’t want to stand and fight, you know that running’s the better option!"
:—'''Dion''' does [[Furmanism]]s wrong.

==Notes==
===Errors===

===Transformer references===
* Several characters are name-dropped in the story, but never seen; [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)|Thunderblast]], [[Covenant|Leonicus]], [[Scorpius]], [[Thunder Clash]], [[Landshark]], [[Traachon]], and [[Falcon (G1)|Falcon]]. The members of the [[Covenant]] are depicted as constellations, and a legend of Leonicus fighting an Ice Demon is referred to.
* [[Drench (Autobot)|Both]] [[Drench (Decepticon)|verions]] of G2 Drench are made into the same character here, as the Decepticon ends up defecting to the Elite Guard with a retrofit and a new paint job.

===Real-world references===

==References==
<references/>

==External links==
* [http://www.transformersclub.com/members/fiction.cfm Transformers Collectors' Club exclusive fiction] (must be a logged-in member to access)

[[Category:Text stories]]
[[Category:Fun Publications]]

Talk:Universal stream

2010-05-10T17:33:39Z

Arborday:

That's right. Even Takara stuff is using this system now. Dude! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:41, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
:Wow. Maybe Ichikawa again? We assumed he was responsible for the material used in that World of the Transformers feature back in 2007. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:52, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
:I require links! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:36, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
:: There are none. [[User:Swift|Peeps]] just know (people who can read) Japanese! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:47, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
::: Well, then! I require... tacos! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:48, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
::::Here: [[From Here to Alternity/src‎]] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:39, 3 April 2009 (EDT)
[[Bulletbike (G2)]]'s tech spec bio has its own Universal Stream of Primax 095.0 Beta. Does that mean it isn't even in continuity with other tech spec bios, such as [[Drench (Autobot)]]'s which would presumably be Primax 09'''3'''.0 Beta? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:53, 9 August 2009 (EDT)
::::It'd be in continuity with other tech spec bios from 1995! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:12, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

...wait. Does that mean the Allspark Almanac was actually written by Shattered Glass Jim Sorenson and Bill Forster? --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]]
:Only in-universe. Out of universe, it was written by the non-Shattered Glass versions of us.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 12:06, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
::Shattered Glass Jim Sorenson doesn't put billions of in-jokes in his writing, because he doesn't know how to read!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 12:07, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
:::But he apparently knows how to write...? Maybe he dictates to SG Bill Forster.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 12:24, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
:Thanks guys, you have now totally melted my brain. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 12:32, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

Is there a universal stream for TransTech itself? Or do they consider themselves above that sort of thing? I guess they'd be ### Epsilon, but they don't technically fit into a continuity family, do they? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 20:06, 30 December 2009 (EST)

What is the origin of these names, anyway? We know how the numbering system works, and there's a note explaining where they got the name Quadwal (which is actually pretty funny), but what about the rest of them? - [[User:Arborday|Arborday]] 13:33, 10 May 2010 (EDT)

==How the System works==
Just making sure I understand the system. If for example, a new animated series came out this year, and it was a completely new continuity family, would it be:_____- 010.0 Alpha? I ask because I'm working on my owned fan-based Transformers series (non-profit of course)--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]
:Almost. It would be: ______ '''x'''10.'''y''' Alpha, with '''x''' and '''y''' being the month and day the first episode was aired. If the first episode aired today (Feb 12, 2010), it would be: ______ 210.12 Alpha.--[[Special:Contributions/24.224.153.106|24.224.153.106]] 18:15, 12 February 2010 (EST)
:The numbers that feature zeros for x or y come from continuities where parts of the date are unknown or undefined. The G1 Marvel Comics continuity started in September 1984, but if there was any exact date in September, we don't know about it. If the comic was known to have been officially released on September 13, then it would be Primax 984.13 Gamma instead of Primax 984.0 Gamma. Similarly, Bulletbike came out "sometime in 1995," and if it was even in a specific month then we don't know about it, so he's just from Primax 095.0 Beta; if he'd had a "street date" of April 13, then it would be Primax 495.13 Beta. And if we didn't know when in 2007 the live-action movie came out, it'd be Tyran 007.0 Delta (or maybe just Tyran 07.0 Delta). --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]]

Talk:Megatron (G1)/toys

2010-05-04T03:28:05Z

Arborday:

Talk:Toy swapping

2010-04-06T18:32:07Z

Arborday:

Does anyone think this page should be semi-protected or something? I mean, it's been "enhanced" a few times in the span of 2 days (probably by the self entitled douche bags the article speaks of). What's the consensus?--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 19:47, 28 May 2009 (EDT)

:Autoconfirm seems appropriate here. If someone has the balls to remove the line about toy-swapping being "undesirable," let them register for a screen name so we can mock them to their face. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:51, 28 May 2009 (EDT)
::Sounds like a ''much'' better plan to me.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 19:55, 28 May 2009 (EDT)

<nowiki>*</nowiki>forehead smack* Protected the wrong bit of the page! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:01, 28 May 2009 (EDT)
:Eh, you cool, Chris. I fixed it.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 20:07, 28 May 2009 (EDT)

[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=62666 Bleargh001] found another case, this one Human Alliance Bee and Sam, where Bee's replaced with something else. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:27, 18 September 2009 (EDT)

I ssem to remember on EBay, 2-3 years ago, an Ultra Magnus in Optimus packaging. I got no record of the listing, and I didn't buy it, so who knows.[[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 23:41, 21 December 2009 (EST)

== Painted piece of wood? ==

Please tell me someone has a picture of that. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 14:15, 22 October 2009 (EDT)

==Defending the practice==
Anyone got any links to message boards/usenet/somewhere where an asshole rationalizes doing this? Or are we just hypothesizing? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 09:10, 22 December 2009 (EST)
:Does such a thing exist? Or are we just trying for less partiality?[[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 13:19, 22 December 2009 (EST)
:: Fosterlager was banned from the Allspark for being real smug about doing this. Now he's a TFW2005 mod. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:15, 22 December 2009 (EST)
:::In retrospect, I think he may have been taking a joke too far and you guys were reeled in. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:21, 23 December 2009 (EST)

== Package Swapping? ==

Does swapping packages count as toy swapping? I saw a ROTF Optimus Prime Leader with a first movie leader cardboard inside piece, inside a ROTF box. [[User:Bioniclepluslotr|Bioniclepluslotr]] 20:24, 25 January 2010 (EST)

== Tomatoes ==

As this page is currently protected (though their doesnt seem to be a lock icon anywhere), I wanted to add http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/183502-lets-see-some-not-so-cool-stuff-transformers-only-edition-73.html#post4708953 to the list. [[User:Arborday|Arborday]] 14:29, 6 April 2010 (EDT)

Talk:Toy swapping

2010-04-06T18:29:42Z

Arborday:

Does anyone think this page should be semi-protected or something? I mean, it's been "enhanced" a few times in the span of 2 days (probably by the self entitled douche bags the article speaks of). What's the consensus?--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 19:47, 28 May 2009 (EDT)

:Autoconfirm seems appropriate here. If someone has the balls to remove the line about toy-swapping being "undesirable," let them register for a screen name so we can mock them to their face. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:51, 28 May 2009 (EDT)
::Sounds like a ''much'' better plan to me.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 19:55, 28 May 2009 (EDT)

<nowiki>*</nowiki>forehead smack* Protected the wrong bit of the page! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:01, 28 May 2009 (EDT)
:Eh, you cool, Chris. I fixed it.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 20:07, 28 May 2009 (EDT)

[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=62666 Bleargh001] found another case, this one Human Alliance Bee and Sam, where Bee's replaced with something else. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:27, 18 September 2009 (EDT)

I ssem to remember on EBay, 2-3 years ago, an Ultra Magnus in Optimus packaging. I got no record of the listing, and I didn't buy it, so who knows.[[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 23:41, 21 December 2009 (EST)

== Painted piece of wood? ==

Please tell me someone has a picture of that. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 14:15, 22 October 2009 (EDT)

==Defending the practice==
Anyone got any links to message boards/usenet/somewhere where an asshole rationalizes doing this? Or are we just hypothesizing? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 09:10, 22 December 2009 (EST)
:Does such a thing exist? Or are we just trying for less partiality?[[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 13:19, 22 December 2009 (EST)
:: Fosterlager was banned from the Allspark for being real smug about doing this. Now he's a TFW2005 mod. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:15, 22 December 2009 (EST)
:::In retrospect, I think he may have been taking a joke too far and you guys were reeled in. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:21, 23 December 2009 (EST)

== Package Swapping? ==

Does swapping packages count as toy swapping? I saw a ROTF Optimus Prime Leader with a first movie leader cardboard inside piece, inside a ROTF box. [[User:Bioniclepluslotr|Bioniclepluslotr]] 20:24, 25 January 2010 (EST)

== Can't Edit ==

I can't seem to edit this page (I guess it's a locked page, but I don't see any icons indicating such), but I wanted to add http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/183502-lets-see-some-not-so-cool-stuff-transformers-only-edition-73.html#post4708953 to the list. [[User:Arborday|Arborday]] 14:29, 6 April 2010 (EDT)

MediaWiki:TFWiki.net 2010 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Entries

2010-04-03T13:24:32Z

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