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User:Azrael

2022-08-24T14:09:27Z

Azrael: /* Things to know about Me */

=TF RPG 2e=

User:Azrael

2022-08-24T14:08:31Z

Azrael: /* What I plan to do to help out */

=Things to know about Me=

User talk:Cyberlink420

2020-11-17T14:41:22Z

Azrael: /* Support */

==Previous discussions==
Previous discussions can be found at [[User talk:Cyberlink420/Archive1|Archive]]. However, please do not edit the Archive page.



== Editing Pages ==

I see you have taken out one of my edits in the Starscream tfp page.... was that edit irrelevant or something? [[User:LittleAutobot1218|LittleAutobot1218]] 12:23, 13 February 2020 (EST)
: More or less. The edit didn't really add anything of substance to the article, and it had both grammar and formatting issues. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 12:36, 13 February 2020 (EST)
Sorry... I didn't really know about that [[User:LittleAutobot1218|LittleAutobot1218]] 8:57, 2 20 February 2020 (EST)

=="Unidentified character"==
Yeah let’s just say Blurr was unidentified by me. But if u say it is Blurr i’ll take you from your word. Btw I don’t know who Blurr is {{unsigned|Octane}}

=="Red Five" (Cyberverse)==

I thought that too, but I also thought that the way he was part of the group that was otherwise made up of named characters, his prominent red colouring and the fact he was the first one to be "shot down" as part of the diversion was a reference to the Redshirt trope, which then became playing with the trope because he didn't ''actually'' die.

I have to admit that as soon as I saw the guy, I thought, "A red generic? Oh, no. The poor doomed bastard." And then when his shuttle blew up first...{{unsigned|WM-R}}

==Didn't they confirm that the Bumblebee movie is a reboot?==

It's what I read. Apparently,it was announced at the New York Toy Fair 2019 {{unsigned|‎Thetransformersmorethanmeetstheeye}}
:Already discussed [[Talk:Live-action_film_series#Bumblebee_needs_to_be_removed|here]]. The upshot is that the announcement was vague marketing speak but that actual released products link the BB movie to the previous ones. Basically, the announcement was Hasbro's way of saying "we know the old movies sucked, we promise future ones will be better" without actually insulting their own prior product. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 10:35, 15 November 2019 (EST)

== Removing Periods ==

So I am really sorry for doing this I was at work and was working on this and left my computer open when i went to a meeting and one of my coworkers must of messed with it.--[[User:Oldmajor|Oldmajor]] ([[User talk:Oldmajor|talk]]) 11:46, 14 January 2020 (EST)

== Phil LaMarr ==
Your right, I know I shouldn't be reverting back and fourth with occupations, I apologize for that. I just couldn't make up my mind to agree on if he's notable for being a comedian or not, because he did work on MadTV. But like I said before, I'm really sorry. [[User:MarioKartFan9|MarioKartFan9]] ([[User talk:MarioKartFan9|talk]]) 16:09, 5 February 2020 (EST)

== Creating a page ==

I wanted to add a page regarding Outright Games due to their role in publishing Transformers: Battlegrounds and I wanted to ask if it was okay to add the page before the game has been released or not. If so and the game is cancelled, I'm willing to delete it afterwards. -- [[User:DKSlayer64|DKSlayer64]] 13:21, 12 June 2020 (EDT)
:There's no reason why not, though I would recommend looking at some other game company articles on the wiki as examples so you get an idea of how to properly format the article. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 15:18, 12 June 2020 (EDT)

== On 3A/ThreeA/ThreeZero ==

Considering that the line of ThreeZero and its figures, I wanted to ask if we should consider adding the figures that are being made by the company under the corresponding characters' Merchandise pages, if possible. -- [[User:DKSlayer64|DKSlayer64]] ([[User talk:DKSlayer64|talk]]) 13:56, 12 June 2020 (EDT)
:It's an officially-licensed product, so yeah, it should probably on there. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 15:18, 12 June 2020 (EDT)

== rba ==

Did u watch the decepticon episode More than meets the eye of rescue bots academy and if so. how?[[User:Freakertron|Freakertron]] ([[User talk:Freakertron|talk]]) 03:38, 21 June 2020 (EDT)
:It aired in the UK; it's floating out there if you know where to look. (and no, I won't say where) -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 09:49, 21 June 2020 (EDT)

== Continuity Notes ==

How are Continuity Notes defined? What are some examples? {{unsigned|96megatron}}
:Intentional callbacks and references to past events, not just vague connections. For example, using a macguffin obtained in the last movie or a character specifically mentioning something that happened in a previous movie would constitute a continuity note. A list of new characters or "character uses a weapon they've used in every other movie" is not, nor is just a list of film plot points. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 20:28, 2 August 2020 (EDT)
Thank you for taking the time for the response. Are there any of these bullet points that can be kept?
−
*This film reveals the existence of ‘The Creators’, a mysterious race of aliens responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs and creating our titular transforming robotic aliens, or at least their elemental metal. Originally it was believed the Allspark was the sole progenitor of the race of ‘Transformers’. How 'the Allspark' and ‘The Creators’ are connected remains to be told.
*<s>Sometime after the 'Battle for Chicago', the U.S. has provided the company, Kinetic Solutions Incorporated, with the collected Decepticons’ remains and their abandoned technology for research. However, during the massive clean up some of the technology was stolen by quite a hefty amount of people, not associated with the U.S. government. Even ending up in the hands of those both within and outside of the United States, the Russians have even started a bidding war.</s>
*<s>Following the disbanding of NEST, a new paramilitary unit, called Cemetery Wind was formed, composed of just humans, some who’ve lost families in the Battle of Chicago, and is headed by Harold Attinger, tasked with dealing with the remaining Decepticons forces. Although some of Earth’s government officials are under the assumption that the Autobots are still assisting in efforts to put an end to the remaining Decepticons threat.</s>
*<s>Brains, last seen in the previous film going down with the Decepticon mothership, alongside Wheelie, leaving his fate ambiguous is revealed to still be alive (albeit without one of his legs attached, using it as a makeshift cane). Wheelie's fate was something that was still unknown, until his reappearance in the following film, ''The Last Knight''.</s>
*Sometime after the final battle of ''Dark of the Moon'', Optimus had his arm reattached, after being removed by Sentinel Prime during their final fight, presumably by Ratchet, our best offscreen medic.
*In the KSI lab, among the spoils of war, are the heads of Sentinel Prime and Megatron, provided through government contracts.
*Established in the first film, Optimus Prime has held a no-harming-or-killing-humans rule (although his Autobots don't always follow that rule), the betrayal and subsequent hunting of his kind by the humans challenges Optimus' one rule.
--[[User:96megatron|96megatron]]
:Marked the ones that shouldn't be brought back; the remaining ones could stand to be rewritten to be more concise. (Also, just type four ~ to sign your posts.) -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 22:16, 2 August 2020 (EDT)

== Creating a page for the Activators ==

Having noticed your edits to my edits to the Mini-Con page, I decided to put forth the idea that the Activator Mini-Cons should possibly be given their own page, considering that the Weaponizer Mini-Cons from the same series have one of their own. It would serve the purpose of lessening the amount of links and text in that section, and makes a certain amount of sense given, again, the Weaponizer Mini-Cons have a page of their own for a similar purpose. -- [[User:ChangingFate|ChangingFate]] ([[User talk:ChangingFate|talk]]) 17:47, 9 August 2020 (EDT)

== Robots In Disguise reprint ==

Okay i can understand your other edits and respect but why did you delete the link that proved it was out?--[[User:Projectus|Projectus]] ([[User talk:Projectus|talk]]) 22:38, 13 August 2020 (EDT)
:Because we generally don't put purchase links in the reprint sections. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 23:00, 13 August 2020 (EDT)
::Someone did it for volume 1. Granted, you just use the word generally, but still don't you think they need some proof to show that their is a second volume and not fake as hell. If you have another option, I'm all ears.--[[User:Projectus|Projectus]] ([[User talk:Projectus|talk]]) 23:57, 13 August 2020 (EDT)
:::Put the link in the edit description when you add it. Also, none of those Volume 1 links actually go to the respective store listings. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 00:24, 14 August 2020 (EDT)

== SG Movie Optimus ==

I used a version of that photo with a clear background to use as the main picture of [[Optimus Prime (SG Movie)|this page]] but do you think the old one is still better for the merchandise section? Perhaps I should use the picture of SG Optimus carrying the Ion Blaster as the main picture and use the old picture in the merchandise section, since that old picture did show all the accessories and the full figure.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 19:55, 17 August 2020 (EDT)

== Sentinel Prime is not Zeta Prime ==

If we have to apply what "Hasbro" says, then we should apply what Transformers DOTM's script says. You see, in this script, Sentinel Prime united the cybertronian tribes. In fact, Nova Prime from G1 did it. So, if I use your way, then we should call it Sentinel Nova Prime.

Again, it makes no sense. Even if Hasbro says the "full name" of Zeta Prime, it appears that the character is only called Zeta Prime in the final work. You cannot imagine a new character called "Sentinel Zeta Prime" just for one quote from Hasbro.

What about Hasbro ? Check discussions about the project WFC, everyone asked Hasbro with this question : "Are we going to get Sentinel or Zeta or both ?". Hasbro finally answered "Zeta Prime" with a picture of the character. They didn't say "Sentinel Zeta Prime".

If you want to add the truth in this page, then rename it Zeta Prime (WFC) or delete it once and for all.

Zeta Prime has nothing to do with Alpha Trion. This page is full of lies. Sentinel Prime is the PREDECESSOR of Zeta Prime. Sentinel Prime had the matrix. Zeta Prime didn't get the matrix.

'''Even Exodus proved they weren't the same character about the belt.'''

Like it or not, they will never be the same character.
The truth speaks. -- [[User:TransformersFan00|TransformersFan00]] ([[User talk:TransformersFan00|talk]]) 10:14, 26 August 2020 (EDT)
:Well clearly you haven't read any of the fucking novels, because A: Sentinel Prime does not have the Matrix in Exodus, and B: He's called Sentinel Zeta Prime multiple times in the Covenant of Primus. But please, do go on about your "truth" that can be easily disproven by, you know, actually knowing what happened. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 10:34, 26 August 2020 (EDT)
::Again, go watch the G1, the ORIGINAL Transformers and the cartoon of 2005. Sentinel and Zeta are not the same character. Plus not the same skin appeareance AT ALL. You misinterpret everything. Go bring your "proofs" and it will be EASY to disprove them. Hasbro has already contradicted itself. Come with more of your "proofs" and contradictions. You talk about Exodus ? Don't you see the belt ? Your "Sentinel Zeta Prime" is so unrealistic for Sentinel is the mentor of Optimus WHEREAS Zeta is not the mentor of Optimus. You could say Sentinel and Zeta are the predecessors of Optimus, but then so are Alpha, Nominus and Nova. So then, Sentinel Zeta Alpha Nova Nominus Prime is the predecessor of Optimus. You are completely out of the reality. -- [[User:TransformersFan00|TransformersFan00]] ([[User talk:TransformersFan00|talk]]) 10:44, 26 August 2020 (EDT)
:::G1 and the movies have nothing to do with one another, nor do they have anything to do with WFC. I don't think you understand how continuities, reboots, and reusing names for trademark purposes works. I'd hate to have to see you try to reconcile [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]], [[Ironhide (Energon)|Ironhide]] and [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 11:05, 26 August 2020 (EDT)
::::This is hypocritical. You talk about continuity but the page says "Sentinel Zeta Prime" fought against the Quintessons and was close to Alpha Trion. Don't you see this come from G1 ???? In this case, it is Sentinel Prime, not Zeta Prime. So think before you speak. If we truly apply your false point of view, then we should call this character Sentinel Nova Nominus Zeta Prime.
::::So uncivilised. --[[User:TransformersFan00|TransformersFan00]] ([[User talk:TransformersFan00|talk]]) 11:24, 26 August 2020 (EDT)
:::::So what I'm getting from this is that you don't understand that WFC takes place in a different universe than G1. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 11:30, 26 August 2020 (EDT)

And the moral of today's story: don't be dumb. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 11:34, 26 August 2020 (EDT)

==Darkside Optimus Prime==
The image i put us Darkside Optimus Prime according to the source I found viva video and is confirmed to be Darkside Optimus Prime in a G1 body but I don’t know where it originated and reverse search hasn’t help at all so it will be an stub here {{unsigned|Nelspeedracer}}
:You're going to have to be more specific. How can you be certain it's Darkside Optimus Prime and not Nemesis Prime? Heck, if you don't even know where it's from, it shouldn't be on the wiki in the first place. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 18:10, 1 September 2020 (EDT)
::That’s Nemesis Prime from the All Spark manga. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:14, 1 September 2020 (EDT)
:::My bad I’ll have Darkside Optimus Prime into Nemesis Prime then {{unsigned|Nelspeedracer}}
::::Although why it’s Nemesis Prime and not Darkside Optimus Prime when he was brought to life from his dark mind and so was Darkside Optimus Prime so I’m a bit confused {{unsigned|Nelspeedracer}}
:::::Because not everything's always going to line up 100% between different versions of the same character. In the Basics video you took that screencap from, it even says Nemesis Prime is sometimes the manifestation of Optimus's dark thoughts.
:::::Also, I'll be blunt: You have this bad habit of trying to add information to pages just for the sake of adding it without doing proper research into where it's from, what it actually means, or if it's even correct. Adding things in such a state only creates more work for other editors, and it shouldn't have to be everyone else's responsibility to fill in the rest because you refuse to do the legwork yourself. In the future, please don't add information without properly verifying its accuracy. (And please [[Transformers Wiki:Policies#SIGN YOUR POSTS|sign your posts]].)-- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 18:53, 1 September 2020 (EDT)

== Airwave ==

Undo revision 1454429 by MistaTee (talk) "They" is standard pronoun usage for a character with no established gender.)
:Geezis, I hope you're not going to go through every character and do this. Shouldn't we assume every character who is not female is male? [[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] ([[User talk:MistaTee|talk]]) 17:57, 29 October 2020 (EDT)
::With how much fiction has introduced characters that had no stated gender in their bios (whether they were canonized male or female), and with how clear it has been official sources use this wiki as an information resource (Scrapmetal, Quintesson Balliff, Roadburner's depiction in the Legends game, etc.), the wiki should be as accurate as possible in presenting the information that is known, and if we don't know a character's gender, the most correct way would be to refer to them with they/them pronouns. Its not gonna kill anyone to use singular they. [[User:SoundJack426|SoundJack426]] ([[User talk:SoundJack426|talk]]) 19:40, 29 October 2020 (EDT)
:::What qualifies whether it's known or not? For example, in G1 up to and including through the 86 movie, only Arcee and the female autobots are named as such. Would this mean everyone else from that period is male or genderless? Do we go by their voices? [[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] ([[User talk:MistaTee|talk]]) 01:23, 30 October 2020 (EDT)
::::With Hasbro's original intent being there would be no girls in Transformers, and considering everyone from that era have been referred to with male/female pronouns by this point (I believe), nothing would change about them. But in general, when I say "known pronouns", I mean that they have been referred to with pronouns, whether in story or toy bio. If they don't have any fiction and/or bio info that identifies them, they should really be referred to by they/them. Easiest examples being Mini-Cons/Microns that were released as special exclusives with no bio attached and absolutely no fiction, or any BotBots without any pronouns in the official website bios. The ER Airwave is a new character without a bio and no fiction identifying their gender, so we should refer to them as they/them. [[User:SoundJack426|SoundJack426]] ([[User talk:SoundJack426|talk]]) 08:40, 30 October 2020 (EDT)
:::::I see your logic, however they/them is plural. You should really use "it" [https://englishgrammarhere.com/pronouns/pronouns-in-english-pronouns-list/]. Though I do prefer "they" to these nu-pronouns, ze, xe, whatever. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] ([[User talk:MistaTee|talk]]) 15:04, 1 November 2020 (EST)
::::::Better idea: let's not do that, because "they/them" are [https://www.mypronouns.org/they-them acceptable pronouns] for nonbinary individuals or individuals of unspecified gender, and calling someone "it" is a really shitty thing to do. It stays as is. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 15:27, 1 November 2020 (EST)

== Support ==

Helping out a new guy,
Hello, I'm Azrael and I'm teaching myself the basic of editing, could you tell me why you unedited my edit for future refence for Magmatron page, thank you. {{unsigned|Azrael}}
:As I said on your talk page, the rules say you shouldn't be editing image captions if you're still new. The captions are meant as a reward and incentive for the people who put in the hard work fixing pages, adding content, and making the wiki better. We're meant to be informative first and foremost; while we do allow humor, it's largely an afterthought by comparison. Once you've gotten a lot more substantial edits under your belt, like adding episode summaries or filling in toy information, feel free to add in a few captions here and there! But if you're only here to add jokes and not put in any actual work, you're probably best going elsewhere. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 13:29, 5 November 2020 (EST)

Thank you, the thing I wish to add for now is the official bio and stat blocks that some characters have like IDW Beast Wars or the original 80's G1, as a way see the official info about some people.

Hello, me again, I just notice you change to my change to the Lost light page, may I ask why. I was just trying to help people understand the roles on the ship for the whole crew and not just the ones in command to help better show the ship crew and their function overall. {{unsigned|Azrael}}

Because literally 95% of it was made up or inaccurate. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 08:19, 17 November 2020 (EST)
: While I will admit to taking some liberty using the main profile to try to see where they were on the ship along with using what they did beforehand and with characters info dumps to figure out their job. Some characters that die in all version of the lost light like Pipes alone with those who clearly left, Bob and Sunstreak, is not wrong. So no I wasn't 95% making it up. But in the spirit of cooperation, how about you help me correct my mistakes to display a more accurate list of the crew to still proved the readers of this wiki with a list of crew and their roles better.

2020-11-07T14:56:52Z

Azrael: /* Bio Test run */

User talk:Azrael

2020-11-05T19:02:37Z

Azrael: /* Bio Test run */

User talk:Azrael

2020-11-05T18:59:23Z

Azrael: /* Bio Test run */

2020-11-05T18:34:10Z

Azrael: /* Support */

User talk:Cyberlink420

2020-11-05T18:10:27Z

Azrael:

User talk:Cyberlink420

2020-11-05T18:08:46Z

Azrael:

==Previous discussions==
Previous discussions can be found at [[User talk:Cyberlink420/Archive1|Archive]]. However, please do not edit the Archive page.



== Editing Pages ==

I see you have taken out one of my edits in the Starscream tfp page.... was that edit irrelevant or something? [[User:LittleAutobot1218|LittleAutobot1218]] 12:23, 13 February 2020 (EST)
: More or less. The edit didn't really add anything of substance to the article, and it had both grammar and formatting issues. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 12:36, 13 February 2020 (EST)
Sorry... I didn't really know about that [[User:LittleAutobot1218|LittleAutobot1218]] 8:57, 2 20 February 2020 (EST)

=="Unidentified character"==
Yeah let’s just say Blurr was unidentified by me. But if u say it is Blurr i’ll take you from your word. Btw I don’t know who Blurr is {{unsigned|Octane}}

=="Red Five" (Cyberverse)==

I thought that too, but I also thought that the way he was part of the group that was otherwise made up of named characters, his prominent red colouring and the fact he was the first one to be "shot down" as part of the diversion was a reference to the Redshirt trope, which then became playing with the trope because he didn't ''actually'' die.

I have to admit that as soon as I saw the guy, I thought, "A red generic? Oh, no. The poor doomed bastard." And then when his shuttle blew up first...{{unsigned|WM-R}}

==Didn't they confirm that the Bumblebee movie is a reboot?==

It's what I read. Apparently,it was announced at the New York Toy Fair 2019 {{unsigned|‎Thetransformersmorethanmeetstheeye}}
:Already discussed [[Talk:Live-action_film_series#Bumblebee_needs_to_be_removed|here]]. The upshot is that the announcement was vague marketing speak but that actual released products link the BB movie to the previous ones. Basically, the announcement was Hasbro's way of saying "we know the old movies sucked, we promise future ones will be better" without actually insulting their own prior product. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 10:35, 15 November 2019 (EST)

== Removing Periods ==

So I am really sorry for doing this I was at work and was working on this and left my computer open when i went to a meeting and one of my coworkers must of messed with it.--[[User:Oldmajor|Oldmajor]] ([[User talk:Oldmajor|talk]]) 11:46, 14 January 2020 (EST)

== Phil LaMarr ==
Your right, I know I shouldn't be reverting back and fourth with occupations, I apologize for that. I just couldn't make up my mind to agree on if he's notable for being a comedian or not, because he did work on MadTV. But like I said before, I'm really sorry. [[User:MarioKartFan9|MarioKartFan9]] ([[User talk:MarioKartFan9|talk]]) 16:09, 5 February 2020 (EST)

== Creating a page ==

I wanted to add a page regarding Outright Games due to their role in publishing Transformers: Battlegrounds and I wanted to ask if it was okay to add the page before the game has been released or not. If so and the game is cancelled, I'm willing to delete it afterwards. -- [[User:DKSlayer64|DKSlayer64]] 13:21, 12 June 2020 (EDT)
:There's no reason why not, though I would recommend looking at some other game company articles on the wiki as examples so you get an idea of how to properly format the article. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 15:18, 12 June 2020 (EDT)

== On 3A/ThreeA/ThreeZero ==

Considering that the line of ThreeZero and its figures, I wanted to ask if we should consider adding the figures that are being made by the company under the corresponding characters' Merchandise pages, if possible. -- [[User:DKSlayer64|DKSlayer64]] ([[User talk:DKSlayer64|talk]]) 13:56, 12 June 2020 (EDT)
:It's an officially-licensed product, so yeah, it should probably on there. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 15:18, 12 June 2020 (EDT)

== rba ==

Did u watch the decepticon episode More than meets the eye of rescue bots academy and if so. how?[[User:Freakertron|Freakertron]] ([[User talk:Freakertron|talk]]) 03:38, 21 June 2020 (EDT)
:It aired in the UK; it's floating out there if you know where to look. (and no, I won't say where) -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 09:49, 21 June 2020 (EDT)

== Continuity Notes ==

How are Continuity Notes defined? What are some examples? {{unsigned|96megatron}}
:Intentional callbacks and references to past events, not just vague connections. For example, using a macguffin obtained in the last movie or a character specifically mentioning something that happened in a previous movie would constitute a continuity note. A list of new characters or "character uses a weapon they've used in every other movie" is not, nor is just a list of film plot points. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 20:28, 2 August 2020 (EDT)
Thank you for taking the time for the response. Are there any of these bullet points that can be kept?
−
*This film reveals the existence of ‘The Creators’, a mysterious race of aliens responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs and creating our titular transforming robotic aliens, or at least their elemental metal. Originally it was believed the Allspark was the sole progenitor of the race of ‘Transformers’. How 'the Allspark' and ‘The Creators’ are connected remains to be told.
*<s>Sometime after the 'Battle for Chicago', the U.S. has provided the company, Kinetic Solutions Incorporated, with the collected Decepticons’ remains and their abandoned technology for research. However, during the massive clean up some of the technology was stolen by quite a hefty amount of people, not associated with the U.S. government. Even ending up in the hands of those both within and outside of the United States, the Russians have even started a bidding war.</s>
*<s>Following the disbanding of NEST, a new paramilitary unit, called Cemetery Wind was formed, composed of just humans, some who’ve lost families in the Battle of Chicago, and is headed by Harold Attinger, tasked with dealing with the remaining Decepticons forces. Although some of Earth’s government officials are under the assumption that the Autobots are still assisting in efforts to put an end to the remaining Decepticons threat.</s>
*<s>Brains, last seen in the previous film going down with the Decepticon mothership, alongside Wheelie, leaving his fate ambiguous is revealed to still be alive (albeit without one of his legs attached, using it as a makeshift cane). Wheelie's fate was something that was still unknown, until his reappearance in the following film, ''The Last Knight''.</s>
*Sometime after the final battle of ''Dark of the Moon'', Optimus had his arm reattached, after being removed by Sentinel Prime during their final fight, presumably by Ratchet, our best offscreen medic.
*In the KSI lab, among the spoils of war, are the heads of Sentinel Prime and Megatron, provided through government contracts.
*Established in the first film, Optimus Prime has held a no-harming-or-killing-humans rule (although his Autobots don't always follow that rule), the betrayal and subsequent hunting of his kind by the humans challenges Optimus' one rule.
--[[User:96megatron|96megatron]]
:Marked the ones that shouldn't be brought back; the remaining ones could stand to be rewritten to be more concise. (Also, just type four ~ to sign your posts.) -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 22:16, 2 August 2020 (EDT)

== Creating a page for the Activators ==

Having noticed your edits to my edits to the Mini-Con page, I decided to put forth the idea that the Activator Mini-Cons should possibly be given their own page, considering that the Weaponizer Mini-Cons from the same series have one of their own. It would serve the purpose of lessening the amount of links and text in that section, and makes a certain amount of sense given, again, the Weaponizer Mini-Cons have a page of their own for a similar purpose. -- [[User:ChangingFate|ChangingFate]] ([[User talk:ChangingFate|talk]]) 17:47, 9 August 2020 (EDT)

== Robots In Disguise reprint ==

Okay i can understand your other edits and respect but why did you delete the link that proved it was out?--[[User:Projectus|Projectus]] ([[User talk:Projectus|talk]]) 22:38, 13 August 2020 (EDT)
:Because we generally don't put purchase links in the reprint sections. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 23:00, 13 August 2020 (EDT)
::Someone did it for volume 1. Granted, you just use the word generally, but still don't you think they need some proof to show that their is a second volume and not fake as hell. If you have another option, I'm all ears.--[[User:Projectus|Projectus]] ([[User talk:Projectus|talk]]) 23:57, 13 August 2020 (EDT)
:::Put the link in the edit description when you add it. Also, none of those Volume 1 links actually go to the respective store listings. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 00:24, 14 August 2020 (EDT)

== SG Movie Optimus ==

I used a version of that photo with a clear background to use as the main picture of [[Optimus Prime (SG Movie)|this page]] but do you think the old one is still better for the merchandise section? Perhaps I should use the picture of SG Optimus carrying the Ion Blaster as the main picture and use the old picture in the merchandise section, since that old picture did show all the accessories and the full figure.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 19:55, 17 August 2020 (EDT)

== Sentinel Prime is not Zeta Prime ==

If we have to apply what "Hasbro" says, then we should apply what Transformers DOTM's script says. You see, in this script, Sentinel Prime united the cybertronian tribes. In fact, Nova Prime from G1 did it. So, if I use your way, then we should call it Sentinel Nova Prime.

Again, it makes no sense. Even if Hasbro says the "full name" of Zeta Prime, it appears that the character is only called Zeta Prime in the final work. You cannot imagine a new character called "Sentinel Zeta Prime" just for one quote from Hasbro.

What about Hasbro ? Check discussions about the project WFC, everyone asked Hasbro with this question : "Are we going to get Sentinel or Zeta or both ?". Hasbro finally answered "Zeta Prime" with a picture of the character. They didn't say "Sentinel Zeta Prime".

If you want to add the truth in this page, then rename it Zeta Prime (WFC) or delete it once and for all.

Zeta Prime has nothing to do with Alpha Trion. This page is full of lies. Sentinel Prime is the PREDECESSOR of Zeta Prime. Sentinel Prime had the matrix. Zeta Prime didn't get the matrix.

'''Even Exodus proved they weren't the same character about the belt.'''

Like it or not, they will never be the same character.
The truth speaks. -- [[User:TransformersFan00|TransformersFan00]] ([[User talk:TransformersFan00|talk]]) 10:14, 26 August 2020 (EDT)
:Well clearly you haven't read any of the fucking novels, because A: Sentinel Prime does not have the Matrix in Exodus, and B: He's called Sentinel Zeta Prime multiple times in the Covenant of Primus. But please, do go on about your "truth" that can be easily disproven by, you know, actually knowing what happened. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 10:34, 26 August 2020 (EDT)
::Again, go watch the G1, the ORIGINAL Transformers and the cartoon of 2005. Sentinel and Zeta are not the same character. Plus not the same skin appeareance AT ALL. You misinterpret everything. Go bring your "proofs" and it will be EASY to disprove them. Hasbro has already contradicted itself. Come with more of your "proofs" and contradictions. You talk about Exodus ? Don't you see the belt ? Your "Sentinel Zeta Prime" is so unrealistic for Sentinel is the mentor of Optimus WHEREAS Zeta is not the mentor of Optimus. You could say Sentinel and Zeta are the predecessors of Optimus, but then so are Alpha, Nominus and Nova. So then, Sentinel Zeta Alpha Nova Nominus Prime is the predecessor of Optimus. You are completely out of the reality. -- [[User:TransformersFan00|TransformersFan00]] ([[User talk:TransformersFan00|talk]]) 10:44, 26 August 2020 (EDT)
:::G1 and the movies have nothing to do with one another, nor do they have anything to do with WFC. I don't think you understand how continuities, reboots, and reusing names for trademark purposes works. I'd hate to have to see you try to reconcile [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]], [[Ironhide (Energon)|Ironhide]] and [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 11:05, 26 August 2020 (EDT)
::::This is hypocritical. You talk about continuity but the page says "Sentinel Zeta Prime" fought against the Quintessons and was close to Alpha Trion. Don't you see this come from G1 ???? In this case, it is Sentinel Prime, not Zeta Prime. So think before you speak. If we truly apply your false point of view, then we should call this character Sentinel Nova Nominus Zeta Prime.
::::So uncivilised. --[[User:TransformersFan00|TransformersFan00]] ([[User talk:TransformersFan00|talk]]) 11:24, 26 August 2020 (EDT)
:::::So what I'm getting from this is that you don't understand that WFC takes place in a different universe than G1. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 11:30, 26 August 2020 (EDT)

And the moral of today's story: don't be dumb. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 11:34, 26 August 2020 (EDT)

==Darkside Optimus Prime==
The image i put us Darkside Optimus Prime according to the source I found viva video and is confirmed to be Darkside Optimus Prime in a G1 body but I don’t know where it originated and reverse search hasn’t help at all so it will be an stub here {{unsigned|Nelspeedracer}}
:You're going to have to be more specific. How can you be certain it's Darkside Optimus Prime and not Nemesis Prime? Heck, if you don't even know where it's from, it shouldn't be on the wiki in the first place. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 18:10, 1 September 2020 (EDT)
::That’s Nemesis Prime from the All Spark manga. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:14, 1 September 2020 (EDT)
:::My bad I’ll have Darkside Optimus Prime into Nemesis Prime then {{unsigned|Nelspeedracer}}
::::Although why it’s Nemesis Prime and not Darkside Optimus Prime when he was brought to life from his dark mind and so was Darkside Optimus Prime so I’m a bit confused {{unsigned|Nelspeedracer}}
:::::Because not everything's always going to line up 100% between different versions of the same character. In the Basics video you took that screencap from, it even says Nemesis Prime is sometimes the manifestation of Optimus's dark thoughts.
:::::Also, I'll be blunt: You have this bad habit of trying to add information to pages just for the sake of adding it without doing proper research into where it's from, what it actually means, or if it's even correct. Adding things in such a state only creates more work for other editors, and it shouldn't have to be everyone else's responsibility to fill in the rest because you refuse to do the legwork yourself. In the future, please don't add information without properly verifying its accuracy. (And please [[Transformers Wiki:Policies#SIGN YOUR POSTS|sign your posts]].)-- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 18:53, 1 September 2020 (EDT)

== Airwave ==

Undo revision 1454429 by MistaTee (talk) "They" is standard pronoun usage for a character with no established gender.)
:Geezis, I hope you're not going to go through every character and do this. Shouldn't we assume every character who is not female is male? [[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] ([[User talk:MistaTee|talk]]) 17:57, 29 October 2020 (EDT)
::With how much fiction has introduced characters that had no stated gender in their bios (whether they were canonized male or female), and with how clear it has been official sources use this wiki as an information resource (Scrapmetal, Quintesson Balliff, Roadburner's depiction in the Legends game, etc.), the wiki should be as accurate as possible in presenting the information that is known, and if we don't know a character's gender, the most correct way would be to refer to them with they/them pronouns. Its not gonna kill anyone to use singular they. [[User:SoundJack426|SoundJack426]] ([[User talk:SoundJack426|talk]]) 19:40, 29 October 2020 (EDT)
:::What qualifies whether it's known or not? For example, in G1 up to and including through the 86 movie, only Arcee and the female autobots are named as such. Would this mean everyone else from that period is male or genderless? Do we go by their voices? [[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] ([[User talk:MistaTee|talk]]) 01:23, 30 October 2020 (EDT)
::::With Hasbro's original intent being there would be no girls in Transformers, and considering everyone from that era have been referred to with male/female pronouns by this point (I believe), nothing would change about them. But in general, when I say "known pronouns", I mean that they have been referred to with pronouns, whether in story or toy bio. If they don't have any fiction and/or bio info that identifies them, they should really be referred to by they/them. Easiest examples being Mini-Cons/Microns that were released as special exclusives with no bio attached and absolutely no fiction, or any BotBots without any pronouns in the official website bios. The ER Airwave is a new character without a bio and no fiction identifying their gender, so we should refer to them as they/them. [[User:SoundJack426|SoundJack426]] ([[User talk:SoundJack426|talk]]) 08:40, 30 October 2020 (EDT)
:::::I see your logic, however they/them is plural. You should really use "it" [https://englishgrammarhere.com/pronouns/pronouns-in-english-pronouns-list/]. Though I do prefer "they" to these nu-pronouns, ze, xe, whatever. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] ([[User talk:MistaTee|talk]]) 15:04, 1 November 2020 (EST)
::::::Better idea: let's not do that, because "they/them" are [https://www.mypronouns.org/they-them acceptable pronouns] for nonbinary individuals or individuals of unspecified gender, and calling someone "it" is a really shitty thing to do. It stays as is. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 15:27, 1 November 2020 (EST)

Helping out a new guy,
Hello, I'm Azrael and I'm teaching myself the basic of editing, could you tell me why you unedited my edit for future refence for Magmatron page, thank you.

Magmatron (BW)

2020-11-05T17:56:27Z

Azrael: /* Beast Wars Neo manga */

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:''Magmatron is a [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] from the [[Beast Era]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
{{picsneeded|fictional appearances}}

[[File:Magmatronbm.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb|Part robot, part 3 different prehistoric animals, and he can ''dance''.]]
As befits a decorated Warrior-General, '''Magmatron''' (マグマトロン ''Magumatoron'') is capable of both elegant, reasoned judgment and wild, vicious action. Once he has set his sights on a goal, his drive to achieve it is unwavering and he will accept nothing less than total victory. Despite these attributes, and prodigious physical power, Magmatron's greatest advantage often lies in his charismatic leadership. Revered and admired by his soldiers, Magmatron fits the title "[[Emperor of Destruction]]" better than most.

On the surface, Magmatron seems to have much in common with [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]. Both are schemers and planners, willing to subvert the established Predacon power structure to suit their plans and ultimate ambition for power, and possessing the strength to fight off any who challenge them. Their key difference lies in their relationships to that power structure. Megatron is at heart a rebel, working outside existing society. Magmatron, on the other hand, values his position of power and eminence in the current Predacon hierarchy, and though he schemes to someday stand at the top of that body, he is unwilling to risk his current high standings any more than he must to achieve those future goals. Also, while Megatron is more openly abusive and harsh with his troops, Magmatron operates with more military professionalism when interacting with his own soldiers. This aspect of Magmatron's personality may also be due to his more professional background, as opposed to Megatron's more rogue-ish ways.

Magmatron possesses a [[mitotic spark]] which allows him to separate into three dinosaur forms called '''Landsaur''', '''Seasaur''', and '''Skysaur''', or merge them into a single monstrosity called '''Magmasaur'''.

==Fiction==
===''Beast Wars Neo'' cartoon===
{{voiceactor|[[Show Ryuzanji]] (Japanese)|[[Kwan-cheol Kim]] (Korean)}}

[[File:Magmatron cartoon.jpg|left|thumb|No, the toy isn't this cool.]]

{{charstubfiction|{{storylink|Big Convoy, Move Out}} {{storylink|Chase the Mysterious Capsule}} {{storylink|Burning Heart Below Freezing}} {{storylink|Hang in There, Stampy}} {{storylink|Mirage of the Sand}} {{storylink|Dinosaur Combiner Magmatron}} {{storylink|Duel in the Labyrinth}} {{storylink|The Black Hole Crisis}} {{storylink|Sub-Commander Longrack}} {{storylink|Waa! They Got Eaten}} {{storylink|Planet of Time}} {{storylink|Lonely Hydra}} {{storylink|Break Is a Predacon?}} {{storylink|Ship's Log}} {{storylink|Mach Kick Voluntarily Enlists!?}} {{storylink|Planet of the Ultimate Weapon}} {{storylink|Troubled DNAVI}} {{storylink|Attack! Randy}} {{storylink|Bump the Physicist}} {{storylink|Hardhead Is Hardheaded}} {{storylink|Personal Combat in the Deep Sea!!}} {{storylink|The Stolen Gung Ho}} {{storylink|Survive the Hot-Blooded Instructor}} {{storylink|Assemble! New Warriors}} {{storylink|Mysterious Beast Warriors!?}} {{storylink|The Stolen Capsules}} {{storylink|Pursue the Blentrons!}} {{storylink|Angry Magmatron}} {{storylink|Illusion? Lio Convoy}} {{storylink|Unicron Revived!?}} {{storylink|Unicron's Ambition}} {{storylink|The Final Battle (BWN)|The Final Battle}} {{storylink|Graduation Ceremony!!}}}}

===''Bom Bom'' manga continuity===
====''Beast Wars II'' manga====
Magmatron was a ''Giganotosaurus'' who led a gang of dinosaur rowdies on a primitive world in the [[7th Cosmos]]. After exposure to the Angolmois Capsule that crashed on the planet, the gang became more ferocious and killed [[Big Convoy#Beast Wars Neo comic|Big]]'s friends. The gang attacked [[Lio Convoy]], who had just arrived on the planet by accident, but failed because of Big's interruption. The gang followed Lio Convoy and Big's trails to the site where the capsule fell. Big pushed the gang into the valley, where the ''Giganotosaurus'' and its minions were caught in the explosion of the Angolmois Capsule and evolved into Transformers. The ''Giganotosaurus'' was fused with a ''Quetzalcoatlus'' and an ''Elasmosaurus'', becoming Magmasaur. The Magmasaur transformed into Magmatron, commanding his just-evolved minions to attack Lio Convoy and Big. Lio Convoy managed to defeat the henchmen with ease, but Magmatron took him out with one blast. With the power he now possessed, Magmatron claimed they would travel to various planets to kill every living thing. {{storylink|The Beast Wars "Neo" Begin!!!}}

====''Beast Wars Neo'' manga====
[[File:bwn-bigconvoy&magmatron-manga-06-riding.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1|Go Magmatron, I chose you!]]

{{charstubfiction|{{storylink|The 5 Rookies}} {{storylink|There Are 7 Capsules}} {{storylink|100000000000000000 Grains of Sandron!!}}}}

Later, Magmatron again met Big, now the Maximal Big Convoy. During a fierce battle, Magmatron indicated they had a history but Big Convoy couldn't remember and was surprised by Magmatron's words. When Magmatron thought he gained the upper hand, he was surprised by multiple blasts from his foe's [[Big Cannon]]. {{storylink|Mortal Combat! Twenty Thousand Meters in the Sky}}

The badly wounded Magmatron now had to separate himself into the three dinosaurs and stay in healing chambers. He ordered his henchmen to go to the planet [[Jörmungandr]] to retrieve an Angolmois Capsule. The group, however, failed and was sucked into space. The mysterious [[Unicron|Black Ball]], which had been retrieved by Big Convoy's crew, suddenly appeared in the ''[[Dinosaur (ship)|Dinosaur]]'', offering his troops, the [[Blentron]]s, to Magmatron. {{storylink|A Battle Fought Alone}}

Magmatron and Big Convoy were tricked to an {{w|amphitheatre}} where the last capsule was located by the Black Ball. Magmatron commanded the Blentron to attack Big Convoy's crew. During the battle, Magmatron was attacked from behind by a Blentron. It was revealed that both Magmatron and Big Convoy were the last Angolmois Capsule, and thus the Black Ball, who was actually Unicron, desired to consume them to regain the energy. Magmatron saved his old rival, who was despairing upon regaining his memory,and convinced him to team up to fight Unicron and the Blentrons. Magmatron was eventually chewed up and spat out by Unicron. A dying Magmatron, now reduced to only a head, left his [[Magma Blade]] to Big Convoy as a "parting gift" and asked Big Convoy to give him an honorable "warrior's death" with his own sword. Big Convoy conceded to the request. {{storylink|Double Cross}}

Big Convoy later struck the blow that finished off Unicron's physical body with Magmatron's sword, avenging his death. {{storylink|Return to Zero}}

===''Beast Machines'' toy bio===
Magmatron was a member of the [[Dinobot (BM)|Dinobot faction]], revered and reviled in equal measure. He had been on an intergalactic quest for energy capsules, but when he returned to Cybertron he found it being overrun by [[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicon drones!]]

While he had the nickname "Emperor of Destruction", he served under [[T-Wrecks]].

===3H comics===
Magmatron had become part of the new Dinobots, and was sent on a mission, given to them by the [[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]], {{Storylink|Departure}} to the planet [[Arkus]]. The mission was a trap, however, and Magmatron and his Dinobots were attacked by [[energy vampire]]s and their master known as the [[Dweller (G1)|Dweller]]. {{storylink|Betrayal}} Magmatron fought off the Dweller long enough for the Dinobots to escape. When they returned to rescue him, they found nothing but his sword. {{storylink|The Wreckers: Finale Part 1}}

===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===
{{BW Shell Game}}
Magmatron made his way to prehistoric Earth, with the intention of raising an army out of the protoforms left behind by the Axalon's crew. He watched from afar as Optimus Primal's team launched from the planet aboard an Autobot shuttlecraft, with Megatron as their prisoner.
As one of his agents, Razorbeast, activated the stasis pods remotely, another one of his lackeys, Spittor, reported that one of the protoforms had been activated as a Maximal instead of a Predacon. Abandoning his cover as a Maximal double-agent, Razorbeast fled from Magmatron and into the wild. {{storylink|Shell Game issue 1|Shell Game #1}}

===IDW ''Beast Wars'' comics===
According to one account, Magmatron was the result of one of many experiments conducted by the [[Tripredacus Council]] in the advent of protoform technology, after the signing of the Pax Cybertronia. {{storylink|Dawn of the Predacus}}

[[File:Magmatron speech TheGathering1.jpg|left|upright=1.4|thumb]]

Another account has it that, during the early days of the [[Pax Cybertronia]], Magmatron endangered the fragile peace, being an indomitable general who would not accept defeat. When he was finally brought to heel by the [[Tripredacus Council]], he still chafed under the terms of the treaty and the council's apparent willingness to roll over for the Maximals. However, he accepted his change in status and maneuvered into a position on the [[Bi-Partate Committee for State Affairs]] alongside his old enemy, [[Big Convoy]]. {{storylink|Transformers: Beast Wars Sourcebook|Beast Wars Sourcebook #2}}

Frustrated by the Council's decision to bide its time, Magmatron recruited a small band of disenchanted warriors and fostered a professional relationship with the Tripredacus agent [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] to keep abreast of the situation on [[Earth]]. With this information, he formed an elegant and tightly-knit plan to travel backwards in time to prehistoric Earth and reprogram all of the remaining [[protoform]] Maximals into Predacons. Keeping his plans secret until the last moment, he revealed to his forces that the Council had ordered him to pick up the task where their previous agent failed: capture the rogue [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]].

[[Chronal phase|Chronically displacing]] his crew so that they could not be detected by the beast warriors who are already there, they set to work. He ordered [[Razorbeast]] to begin activating the [[stasis pod]]s while [[Spittor (BW)|Spittor]], [[Manterror]], [[Transquito]], and [[Iguanus (BW)|Iguanus]] reported on their progress. They witnessed the birth of three Predacons, but Spittor was greeted by the Maximal, [[Polar Claw]]. More Maximals were spotted, revealing Razorbeast as a spy, but the warthog escaped into the wilderness. {{storylink|The Gathering issue 1|The Gathering #1}}

Once his new army was assembled, Magmatron ordered them to hunt down the Maximals. [[Drill Bit (BW)|Drill Bit]] and Spittor, however, accompanied Magmatron on his personal quest to find Razorbeast. He located the spy and quickly gained the upper hand with his three dinosaur modes, but Razorbeast pulled a fast one, and buried the Predacon leader beneath a mountainside. Magmatron soon recouped his losses by recovering the spark of the Tripredacus agent, Ravage. {{storylink|The Gathering issue 2|The Gathering #2}}

[[File:Gathering3-Megatron Magmatron.jpg|right|upright=1.5|thumb|Insert "Megatron not pleased a BWN character is stealing his role" joke here.]]

Iguanus, having located a [[blank]] protoform, assisted Magmatron with rebirthing Ravage in a new, [[Transmetal 2]] body. Magmatron ordered Ravage to hunt down and terminate Razorbeast's Maximals. Magmatron proceeded to set forth on his next mission; locating and capturing Megatron to ensure the Tripredacus Council didn't catch on to his real plans. He confronted Megatron, and the two engaged in battle. Megatron insisted that Magmatron was foolish for coming after him alone, as Ravage did, but Magmatron was not alone— Iguanus and Drill Bit ambushed Megatron and disabled him. The Predacons brought Megatron to a [[transwarp]] platform they had set up and prepared to send Megatron into the hands of the Council, but they were interrupted by the wandering [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]. {{storylink|The Gathering issue 3|The Gathering #3}}

[[File:MagmatronVGrimlock TheGathering4.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb]]

Magmatron engaged Grimlock in a vicious [[beast mode]] battle, and despite the Maximal's resilence, Magmatron eventually overwhelmed him. Grimlock was enough of a distraction, however, to let Razorbeast and [[Optimus Minor]] enter the camp undetected and steal a [[chronal phase facilitator]]. When Razorbeast confronted Magmatron in the open, the Predacon general saw an opportunity to settle an old score. But with Razorbeast using the facilitator to shift out of his chronal phase, Magmatron was unable to land a single hit on his smaller opponent. Optimus Minor removed the facilitator attached to the unconscious Megatron, returning the rogue to his proper chronal state. Magmatron lunged to stop it, and ended up falling onto the transwarp platform just as it activated. Razorbeast blasted the device, causing it to malfunction and send Magmatron to parts unknown. {{storylink|The Gathering issue 4|The Gathering #4}}

Razorbeast's meddling in Magmatron's transwarp shunt caused the Predacon commander to be consigned to a temporal limbo, able to traverse the whole of history but unable to affect any of the events he witnessed. Through this, he saw the eventual end of Cybertron as its inhabitants set upon each other with beastly fury while [[Shokaract]] summoned [[Unicron]] to devour the planet. Knowing that the roots of this catastrophic event were already beginning in his time, Magmatron turned to the enemy who had consigned him to this fate. Exerting what little influence he could, he stabilized the Transwarp carrier signal sent by the Maximals weeks earlier, allowing the time-lost distress call to be received by [[Lio Convoy]] and the [[Pack]]. {{storylink|The Ascending issue 1|The Ascending #1}}

[[File:Magmatron Ravage TheAscending2.jpg|right|upright=1.1|thumb]]

Magmatron's meddling effect on the timestream was noticed by Unicron, who dispatched [[Latolata|Rartorata]] to Earth to deal with the assembling combatants there. His ability to change the future was increased further, however, when during the confusion of the battle on Earth between the Maximal and Predacon forces, a playing 'possum Ravage made contact with the chronal displacement bands. Magmatron was able to use his limited influence to hold Ravage inside chronospace, where he was able to make contact with the former [[Decepticon]]. Magmatron briefed him on the apocalypse that could yet come, urging him to call a truce with the Maximals in an effort to stop the end of all things. {{storylink|The Ascending issue 2|The Ascending #2}}

From his chronal prison, Magmatron watched his rival Big Convoy die at Shokaract's hands in the future, knowing that it was only a prelude to the destruction to come. {{storylink|The Ascending issue 3|The Ascending #3}} A combined group of Maximals and Predacons returned with Ravage to present-day Cybertron to battle Shokaract, arriving before Big Convoy could be killed. Ravage again briefed with Magmatron, who instructed him to send a Maximal to attach a chronal-displacement device onto Shokaract's body. This was eventually accomplished at the cost of many lives and Shokaract was brought to Magmatron within chronospace. Magmatron showed him Cybertron's future and the realization that he was a pawn of Unicron caused a distraught Shokaract to commit suicide, causing a "time-lash" that freed Magmatron from limbo.

The restored Magmatron informed the assembled Maximals and Predacons that the threat had ended. He also reported that his old foe Razorbeast had died on Earth and respectfully declared the Maximal worthy of a momument. {{storylink|The Ascending issue 4|The Ascending #4}}

====Ask Vector Prime====
[[Vector Prime]] and his [[Time Warrior (AVP)|Time Warrior]]s prevented Magmatron from falling prey to the [[X-Dimension]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/07/12}}

===Waspscream continuity===
In [[Primax 208.06 Zeta]], Magmatron and the [[Dinobot (BM)|Dinobot]]s were among the resistance groups against [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]]'s [[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicon]] rule of Cybertron. After the defeat of the Vehicons, Magmatron formed a new High Council with [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspscream]], [[Icebird]], and [[Rodimus Primal]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/08/16}}

===''Beast Wars: Uprising''===
[[File:BWU Magmatron.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb]]

Magmatron was chief engineering specialist aboard the ''Dinosaur'', overseeing junior engineers [[Crazybolt (BWN)|Crazybolt]] and [[Dead End (BWN)|Dead-End]]. During the launch of an away mission to [[Metascan Omega|LGC-8803]], the ''Dinosaur'' was attacked by an [[Intruder]] craft, putting Magmatron to work maintaining the integrity of his ship.

He had little time to spare when [[Killer Punch]] came by with a tale of the hallways moving on him and [[Hydra (BWN)|Hydra]] possibly being killed. Still, the intelligence specialist's sensor logs were compelling, so Magmatron arranged for a localized brown-out so that Killer Punch could reach the laboratory the ship seemed dedicated to keeping from him. It was only due to Killer Punch's paranoid comms channel that Magmatron saw what happened next. The Builder political officer [[Synapse (BWU)|Synapse]] bragged about killing Hydra before having Killer Punch killed as well. An uprising had begun on Cybertron, and Synapse couldn't have the proto-former crew getting any sympathetic ideas.

Magmatron rallied the remaining members of the crew on board in a plan to reach the captain's chambers and disable the ship's internal defenses. He and [[Guiledart]] made their way to the captain, only to find [[Full-Tilt (G1)|Full-Tilt]] wasn't responsible for the attacks on the crew. He had been severed from control of the ''Dinosaur'', actually the [[Titan (group)|Megamaster]] war criminal once known as [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]]. Additional damage done by the [[Destructon]] intruders only made the situation more perilous, forcing the chief back to engineering to keep the ship in the air long enough to seize control of it. Once Dead-End disabled Trypticon's higher consciousness, Magmatron and Full-Tilt were able to preserve the ship's integrity long enough to crash it on LGC-8803, opening the starship up into a new colony dubbed [[Dinosaur City]].

Leaving Full-Tilt, first officer [[Longrack (BWN)|Longrack]], and others behind on Dinosaur City, Magmatron manned a shuttle with a contingent of his crew who wished to return to Cybertron and fight in the [[Grand Uprising]]. {{storylink|Intersectionality}}

{{charstubfiction| {{storylink|Cultural Appropriation}} {{storylink|Derailment}}}}

===''Legends'' comic===
Magmatron of the [[Legends World]] was the principal at a school. When [[Big Convoy|Big]] suggested changing the "HR" for "home room" to "TF" for "''Transformers''" during a staff meeting, Magmatron asked what he was going to do during "TF" period. When the teacher said he'd talk about ''Transformers'', Magmatron noted that was he already was doing and considered firing him. {{Storylink|LG59 Blitzwing Prologue: Big-sensei#Very Strange|Very Strange}}

After the Legends World was destroyed, Magmatron ended up on [[Beast (planet)|Beast]], where he became a full-fledged Beast Warrior through [[Transformers sickness]] and helped fight against [[Galvatron II]] and his [[Nemesis (BWII)|Nemesis]]. {{storylink|The Road to Legends' Revival Chapter 3}} When the Legends World was restored, Magmatron returned to it, and was present when [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] announced he was leaving the universe. He later was present for the graduation ceremony of Big's class. {{Storylink|Transformers Legends Final Chapter "Epiloge"|Epiloge}}

==Toys==
===Beast Wars Neo===
[[File:BM Magmatron Toy.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.67|My entire body is hinges!]]
*'''Magmatron''' (Ultra, February 1999)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-35'''
**''Accessories'': Sword-hilt/launcher, sword blade, left & right Skysaur missiles, 2 Seasaur missiles

: Magmatron transforms from a massive robot into three prehistoric reptiles—a ''{{w|Quetzalcoatlus}}'' ("Skysaur"), a ''{{w|Giganotosaurus}}'' ("Landsaur"), and an ''{{w|Elasmosaurus}}'' ("Seasaur"). These three beasts can also combine into some horrible, chimeric dragon-like creature. In [[robot mode]], Magmatron has free-rolling wheels on his feet, for some unknown purpose.

: The Landsaur unit features a spring-loaded launcher in its mouth, enabling it to fire any of the five missiles the toy comes with. The launcher/throat assembly disconnects for robot mode, forming a sword-hilt primarily for use with the sword-blade missile. The hilt can also be converted into a pistol by flipping out an extra handle from the side. The Seasaur's lower body forms a shield that mounts on Magmatron's left arm; it also contains two grey missiles, and features a spring-loaded gimmick that causes the front paddles to flap when the rear ones are squeezed together. The Skysaur's wings feature a spring-loaded flapping action, triggered by pulling on its tail, and also hide a pair of smooth red blade/missiles.

: [[Sonokong]] also released this figure with no differences other than the packaging in [[Korea|Korean]] markets.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1999/Destron/Magmatron/magmatron.htm More information on Magmatron at TFU.info]''

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*'''Cosmic Showdown: Big Convoy VS Magmatron''' (Vs pack, February 1999)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''VS-35'''
**''Accessories'': Sword-hilt/launcher, sword blade, left & right Skysaur missiles, 2 Landsaur missiles

: Magmatron was available in Japan both in an individual box, and in a massive "Cosmic Showdown" (大宇宙の対決 ''dai uchū no taiketsu'') two-pack with [[Big Convoy#Toys|Big Convoy]]. Both toys are identical to their individual releases.

:This vs-pack was also released in new packaging in Korea.

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*'''Gold Magmatron''' (Ultra, 1999)
**''Accessories'': Sword-hilt/launcher, sword blade, left & right Skysaur missiles, 2 Landsaur missiles

:This gold [[Vacuum metallizing|vacuum metallized]] Magmatron was featured as a [[Lucky Draw figure|Lucky Draw]] giveaway.

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*'''Black Magmatron''' (Ultra, 1999)
**''Accessories'': Sword-hilt/launcher, sword blade, left & right Skysaur missiles, 2 Landsaur missiles

:This figure is a [[Black repaint|black]] [[redeco]]ed Magmatron and is a Lucky Draw item.

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===Beast Machines===
[[File:BM-toy Magmatron.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.1|He keeps talking in that crazy alien language! Let's break his neck!]]
*'''Magmatron''' (Ultra, 2000)
**''Accessories'': Sword-hilt/launcher, sword blade, left & right Skysaur missiles, 2 Seasaur missiles.

:Released [[exclusive]]ly through [[Target]] stores as part of Hasbro's ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Machines]]'' toyline, Magmatron was imported over in a box that reflected his Japanese origin, with Japanese text and other elements from the ''Beast Wars Neo'' packaging added. There are no notable differences between this version of the figure or the original Japanese release.

: His [[bio]] card describes him as a Maximal, and also places him on [[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicon]]-dominated Cybertron. However, his separate [[beast mode]]s still retain their Predacon [[spark crystal]]s.
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==Notes==
*Magmatron's Maximal on-package bio gives his quotation as "Til all is won", an obvious reference to a similar [['Til all are one|phrase]] that pops up in numerous other places in ''Transformers'' lore.
*Magmatron's ''Beast Machines'' instructions also erroneously call Landsaur a "raptor", and it also calls Skysaur a ''Pteranodon''. The combined beast mode is termed as a "Monster mode".
* The ''[[Beast Wars: Uprising]]'' incarnation of Magmatron is a "virtual redeco" of the revived ''[[Diaclone]]'' line's [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/pictorial-review-of-diaclone-reboot-diabattles-v2/35531/ Dia-Battles V2] toy. A transformation video of that toy can be [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYOjNZI12uU seen here.]

===Foreign names===
*''Korean:'' '''Magmatron''' (메그마트론 ''Megeumateuron'')
*''Mandarin:'' '''Yán Chōng Tiān''' (炎冲天, "Soaring Flame")

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