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		<title>Rack&#039;n&#039;Ruin (G1)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BassX0: /* IDW Generation 1 comics */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{factions|autobot|wreckers}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Rack&#039;n&#039;Ruin are two [[Autobot]]s from the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:RackNRuin1.jpg|right|250px|thumb|You win a matched washer and dryer.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Rack&#039;n&#039;Ruin&#039;&#039;&#039; are two Transformers who were surgically combined in a desperate attempt to save their lives. Previously, they turned into &amp;quot;Cybertronian mini-jets&amp;quot;, but the operation rendered this impossible. Members of the elite group of [[Autobot]] shock troops known as the [[Wrecker]]s, Rack&#039;n&#039;Ruin employ an unusual style of melee combat.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===Marvel Comics continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
====Marvel UK Generation 1 comics====&lt;br /&gt;
Rack&#039;n&#039; Ruin trained diligently with the other Wreckers in preparation for [[Operation: Volcano]]. While others doubted the mission after it was clear [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] would likely not be able to participate, Rack&#039;n&#039;Ruin remained silent. But after some soul-searching, the other Wreckers decided to not give up on the mission, and Rack&#039;n&#039;Ruin were present when they resumed their training. {{storylink|Target: 2006}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Following the aborted Operation: Volcano, the Wreckers leader [[Impactor (G1)|Impactor]] was killed and rookie [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] took his place. Some time later, Rack&#039;n&#039;Ruin stood with the Wreckers in the new [[Autobase]] in [[Kalis]] when a nuclear reactor exploded and hordes of [[zombie]] Transformers began pouring out of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]&#039;s lower levels. Rack&#039;n&#039;Ruin were captured and imprisoned with the other Wreckers and [[Emirate]] [[Xaaron]] in [[Flame (Marvel)|Flame]]&#039;s underground base. {{storylink|Legion of the Lost!}} The Wreckers all managed to escape their cell, and after Rack&#039;n&#039;Ruin helped their fellow Wreckers fight through armies of Flame&#039;s zombie hordes, their undead former leader, Impactor, sacrificed himself to save all of Cybertron. Rack&#039;n&#039;Ruin joined the others in remembering Impactor&#039;s two heroic deaths. {{storylink|Meltdown!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:WreckingHavoc-yourfoe.jpg|left|thumb|300px|&amp;quot;Your foe.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Galvatron.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;]]&lt;br /&gt;
Soon the time-traveling Galvatron who wandered [[Earth]] had attracted the attention of the Wreckers. After Rack&#039;n&#039;Ruin and the others memorized the stats of their foe, they warped themselves down to Earth to face him... and right into the middle of a heavily populated Earth city. Though Springer worried that this had totally compromised their mission, as they didn&#039;t want to inflict any casualties on the innocent humans, the Wreckers nonetheless threw themselves at Galvatron. Rack&#039;n&#039;Ruin in particular were able to surprise their target, who underestimated the odd-looking pair, by putting an impressive wound dead-center in Galvatron&#039;s chest. Eventually, to stave off further collateral damage, the Wreckers called off their attack.  {{storylink|Wrecking Havoc}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:TimeWars-frakamm.jpg|right|thumb|300px|&amp;quot;What he&#039;ll kill you with.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;His particle accelerator cannon.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;]]&lt;br /&gt;
However, this only delayed the inevitable. Galvatron&#039;s presence in the present day had started to unravel the space-time continuum. Rack&#039;n&#039;Ruin and the rest of the Wreckers reluctantly teamed up with the Decepticons&#039; counterpart organization, the [[Mayhem Attack Squad]], to counter Galvatron.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Quickly, Galvatron began depleting the Wreckers&#039; ranks. When [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]] fell, Rack&#039;n&#039;Ruin implored [[Roadbuster (G1)|Roadbuster]] to not fixate on revenge and stick to their job. They retreated into the Mayhem Attack Squad&#039;s [[Decepticon heavy transport|transport]] long enough to retrieve an untested [[Pathblaster]] cannon. Although the cannon removed a sizable chunk from Galvatron&#039;s head, Rack&#039;n&#039;Ruin were unable to warn Roadbuster that the cannon was unstable, and their friend was engulfed in the subsequent explosion.&lt;br /&gt;
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The increasingly warped Galvatron began tearing through the Wreckers with a renewed vigor. Rack&#039;n&#039;Ruin was one of the first to fall, destroyed by [[Particle cannon|Galvatron&#039;s arm cannon]]. {{storylink|Time Wars}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Regeneration One&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
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Rack &#039;n&#039; Ruin were members of the Wreckers. In [[2012]], twenty-one years after the apparent end of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] and reoccupation of Cybertron, they joined [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] and the rest of the team in going AWOL to investigate the &amp;quot;loose ends&amp;quot; of the conflict on other planets such as Earth and [[Nebulos]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Unfortunately, on the team&#039;s very first stop, their ship was blown out of the sky by [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] over a devastated Earth. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 1|Loose Ends #1}} They managed to get away in the escape pods but the crash landing damaged [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]]&#039;s [[Circuits|neural circuits]] and Rack &#039;n&#039; Ruin were forced to look after him while [[Leadfoot (G2)|Leadfoot]], [[Roadbuster (G1)|Roadbuster]] and [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]] ran interference against Megatron&#039;s army of [[zombie]] &amp;quot;Ex-Bots&amp;quot; and Kup, [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] and [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] made a break for the [[Goldstone]] [[Deep Space Network]]. Encountering a group of humans, Rack &#039;n&#039; Ruin attempted to make contact but were warned off by [[Topspin (G1)|Topspin]] and the sudden appearance of [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Circuit Smasher]] {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 2|Loose Ends #2}} who promptly fried them. Thankfully the damage was not permanent and after some smooth talking by Topspin the Wreckers accompanied the humans back to [[Argus Base]] where they devised a plan to attack Megatron&#039;s base of operations: the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]]. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 3|Loose Ends #3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Alongside Circuit Smasher, Roadbuster, Leadfoot, Broadside and the [[Battlesuit|battlesuited]] humans [[Gordon Kent]], [[Rob]], [[Paula]] and [[Nel]], Rack &#039;n&#039; Ruin fought their way through [[autogun]]s and mines to reach the crashed spaceship whereupon it disgorged a great many [[Guardian (Marvel)|Guardian units]]. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 4|Loose Ends #4}} Although the fighting was hard, they managed to buy Circuit Smasher enough time to deactivate [[Aunty|Auntie]], at which point the Guardians just &amp;quot;bit the dust&amp;quot;. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 5|Loose Ends #5}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===IDW Generation 1 comics===&lt;br /&gt;
During the early days of the war, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Orion Pax]] was tasked with the escort of a Decepticon prisoner to exchange for [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] who was a prisoner of the Decepticons. Orion and his companion [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] did not know who the Decepticon prisoner they were transporting was, as per protocol. During an attack while transporting the prisoner, Orion Pax found his trailer to be empty. Rather than escape, the prisoner instead called for help to the Autobots.  It was then that they discovered that the prisoner was in fact two Decepticons - Rack and Ruin.  Nightbeat revealed that the duo used to be triplets however one was destroyed years ago but he couldn&#039;t remember his name. Rack and Ruin were responsible for the explosion at the G&#039;th Semane spaceport, which according to Orion Pax was a minor event with no fatalities. Orion Pax chose to talk with the prisoners, removing their sensory deprivation helmets to reveal their true faces.  Identical, except for Ruin missing part of his face.  Rack and Ruin called themselves grunts that were nothing special, they weren&#039;t even that close to each other, repulsed at the thought of being combined to each other.  They went on to explain that they do not have alternate modes due to their transformation cogs being overworked because of a process called instantaneous conversion. Rack and Ruin begged Orion Pax not to hand them over to Megatron because they would be killed. Orion Pax motioned them to get back into the trailer, at which point [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] arrived and took them to see [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] . While the trio of Autobots fought Bludgeon and his Decepticons, Rack and Ruin escaped the trailer and motioned the Autobots to follow them to safety. While strapped to a shuttle set to destroy a nearby populated settlement, Orion Pax remembers his talk about instantaneous conversion earlier with Rack and Ruin, deciding that it was the only way to escape his bonds, allowing him to crash the shuttle safely. {{storylink|Omega&#039;s Conundrum}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:RulesofDisengagement-BlackShadowvsWreckers.jpg|left|thumb|300px|He was half the man he is today.]]&lt;br /&gt;
While Rack was still his own dude, the Wreckers&#039; 11th iteration battled [[Black Shadow (Victory)|Black Shadow]] and suffered three casualties. {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Some time after joining the Wreckers, Rack &#039;n&#039; Ruin confessed to Impactor about their &amp;quot;tragic&amp;quot; prognosis, indicating some lingering medical problem. {{storylink|Bullets}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:LastStandoftheWreckers4-triumphoverevil.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Hi, I have spaces in my name now!  And some yellow.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Rack &#039;n&#039; Ruin were part of the Wreckers when they had their final battle on [[Pova]] against their longtime rivals, the Decepticon attack squad known as [[Squadron X]]. According to &#039;&#039;official&#039;&#039; paperwork, Rack &#039;n&#039; Ruin were pinned in the trenches along with the other flightless Wreckers, but a desperate gambit by leader [[Impactor (G1)|Impactor]] and his second-in-command [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] turned the tide. However, after Squadron X was rounded up and put in inhibitor harnesses, they somehow escaped. Impactor ordered Squadron X put down for good, and after one last legendary battle, Rack &#039;n&#039; Ruin stood with the Wreckers above the bodies of their late enemies. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 4|Last Stand of the Wreckers #4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The reality of the conflict was much uglier than the story that was released to the public. After Impactor turned the tide by shooting through an unwilling Springer, Squadron X was rounded up and put in inhibitor harnesses. However, once [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] learned the Wreckers were on Pova, he ordered Squadron X&#039;s release, as a neutrality agreement forbade the Autobots from bringing their war onto Povian soil. Rack &#039;n&#039; Ruin turned a blind eye when the obsessed Impactor executed Squadron X. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 5|Last Stand of the Wreckers #5}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Though Rack &#039;n&#039; Ruin and the other Wreckers felt Impactor had done the right thing, they didn&#039;t want to be thrown into [[Garrus-9]] alongside him. To make sure Springer wouldn&#039;t think of them as accomplices and testify against them, they all agreed to lie to him that they were against the murders and asked him to be their new leader. &lt;br /&gt;
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By this point, Rack &#039;n&#039; Ruin&#039;s health was, apparently, deteriorating. {{storylink|Zero Point}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Rack &#039;n&#039; Ruin died some time afterward, presumably before [[Stormbringer|the resurrection of Thunderwing]]. The impact this has on Wrecker fatality stats depends on whether RnR count as one or two Transformers. {{storylink|Dead Men&#039;s Boots}} &lt;br /&gt;
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The Wreckers fanboy/historian [[Ironfist (G1)|Ironfist]] insists their name should always be treated as a plural noun. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 4|Last Stand of the Wreckers #4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*In their first appearance during &amp;quot;[[Target: 2006]]&amp;quot;, they are referred to as &amp;quot;Rack and Ruin&amp;quot; but subsequent appearances pep this up to Rack&#039;n&#039;Ruin. Their name was parsed in [[Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 4|&#039;&#039;Last Stand of the Wreckers&#039;&#039; #4]] and &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers: Regeneration One| Regeneration One]]&#039;&#039; as &amp;quot;Rack &#039;n&#039; Ruin.&amp;quot; Oy!&lt;br /&gt;
*Their &amp;quot;origin&amp;quot; and their original alt-modes were given in &amp;quot;[[Transformers: The Facts]]&amp;quot;, a booklet that came with [[Time Wars|UK issue #200]].&lt;br /&gt;
*According to the [[Transformers: Mosaic]] story &#039;&#039;[[Dead Men&#039;s Boots]]&#039;&#039;, Rack &#039;n&#039; Ruin were killed at some point during [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW continuity]].  This was made [[canon]] when the Mosaic was included in the &#039;&#039;Last Stand of the Wreckers&#039;&#039; TPB without the typical Mosaic disclaimer.&lt;br /&gt;
*Until &amp;quot;Rules of Disengagement&amp;quot;, neither Rack nor Ruin had appeared without the other. This solo appearance for Rack (identified in the script&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;RobertsIDWforum&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=301648#301648 James Roberts, IDW forum]: A while back I was PM&#039;d by Ironhide/Paul, who asked me for some information on the Wreckers who showed up in the flashback on Page 1 of issue 7. I promised to post something on this forum. Here&#039;s the relevant extract from the script:&lt;br /&gt;
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2 / Flashback. BLACK SHADOW fights the Wreckers (an old version of the team) at close quarters: tight, dirty and violent. He rips CREST’s head off and blasts PISTON through the chest, killing him. Also in shot are VALVE, HYPERION, IMPACTOR and RACK, all trying to get a piece of him. But it’s clear that Black Shadow owns this fight. Crest has been mentioned but not seen before, but should be readily identifiable by a big old crest on his chest. Valve is a spark brother to Springarm and Wheelarch, so should look like them. Piston is all-new. Hyperion was glimpsed in MTMTE issue 2. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) was the first time either had been individually referred to by name. For the record, Rack is the one with the anvil.&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/jhiaxus/ukcomics/racknruin.htm Rack&#039;n&#039;Ruin at Obscure Transformers]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Talk:Galvatron II</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BassX0: /* Perchance to Dream */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Uh where&#039;s the part where he fights G2 Ultra Magnas in what could be an expansion of the Jpn-Animated continuity &#039;s G2?&lt;br /&gt;
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*I&#039;m afraid I don&#039;t know what you&#039;re referring to.  Where did this happen? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 00:54, 9 December 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: The eHobby toy is [http://www.e-hobby.co.jp/cgi-bin/omc?&amp;amp;port=33301&amp;amp;req=PRODUCT&amp;amp;code=tfce_35explicitly the Marvel Comics Galvatron II].  I don&#039;t, however, think it has anything to do with the Japanese animated continuity.   --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:02, 9 December 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: &amp;quot;Consistency is victory!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Ultra Magnus once lost his life in a Decepticon attack. When he did, as he had briefly been the bearer of the Matrix, his soul was invited to join those guardians of wisdom beyond that of the present world, but it did not seem to him that he truly belonged there. &#039;&#039;&#039;Now, aware of Galvatron II putting the galaxy in crisis by commanding a fearsome mobile battle fortress,&#039;&#039;&#039; he has used Optimus Prime&#039;s &amp;quot;Matrix of Reconfiguration&amp;quot; and achieved his own resurrection!&lt;br /&gt;
Abilities:&lt;br /&gt;
Programmed with a new combat structure, Ultra Magnus normal form now possesses power rivaling his original large robot mode, on top of which he has complete control over a battle station equipped with a diverse array of armaments. He can also feed energy from his laser core into the gun and longsword that are his personal weapons, providing them enormous destructive power (http://www.e-hobby.co.jp/cgi-bin/omc?&amp;amp;port=33301&amp;amp;req=PRODUCT&amp;amp;code=tfe23).&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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On second look this story does appear to have some US G2 in it, what with the fleet of War Worlds &lt;br /&gt;
:Specifically, as has been noted before, it seems to be referencing the unofficial Transforce convention story &amp;quot;Alignment,&amp;quot; which had Galvatron II and a fleet of War Worlds. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:21, 9 December 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::The line &amp;quot;he had briefly been the bearer of the Matrix&amp;quot; Seems to suggest that this takes place in a spinoff from a timeline in which TFTM has occoured, which should weed out many Comic Timelines, plus there&#039;s the mention of the Reconfiguration Matrix, which IIRC Was only in the G2 Manga and some US Bios.&lt;br /&gt;
:::The [[Reconfiguration Matrix]] is FROM the US bios, so I don&#039;t see it as proof that this exists in Japanese animated continuity, especially since it was used the same year in BotCon 2005 Ironhide&#039;s bio.  The Reconfiguration Matrix is just a commonly-used artifact which originated from the G2 era.  (You&#039;re X-Bob, aren&#039;t you?) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:44, 9 December 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m an idiot, I somehow misread this Talk page as &amp;quot;Galvatron BWII&amp;quot;.  Whoah is me. -[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 01:04, 9 December 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would just like to say that the last line in the trivia is one of the best line&#039;s I&#039;ve ever read. [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 00:03, 13 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gold Filagree ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;d like to see a picture of this dude&#039;s toy with the aforementioned stickers. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:18, 11 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Name ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t really think &amp;quot;Galvatron II&amp;quot; is the best name for this article. First, it wasn&#039;t his in-fiction name. Nobody went around calling him Galvatron II. Second, even if it were really his name, it is his Japanese name. When we have an English name for a character we use that. Having said that, I appreciate the need for him to have is own page, and maybe there aren&#039;t better alternatives. But how about one alternative: this page would work well as a sub-page of &amp;quot;Galvatron (G1)&amp;quot;, such as [Edit: &amp;quot;Galvatron (G1)/Rhythms of Darkness!&amp;quot;] for instance. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:23, 18 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: If a character has a real name somewhere that keeps them from being, for example, &amp;quot;Galvatron (G1)/Rhythms of Darkness,&amp;quot; we should use that name.  I don&#039;t care if it&#039;s Sumerian.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:58, 18 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::This. I&#039;m not sure why in the world you prefer something as hideous as &amp;quot;Galvatron (G1)/Rhythms of Darkness!&amp;quot; to the simple and official &amp;quot;Galvatron II&amp;quot;. And appending &amp;quot;II&amp;quot; to the name does not make it a &amp;quot;Japanese name&amp;quot;. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 11:59, 18 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::If my suggestion is too ugly, that&#039;s fine. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:51, 18 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
Dude. His English name is &amp;quot;Galvatron&amp;quot;. Nobody in English fiction called him &amp;quot;Galvatron II.&amp;quot; - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 13:20, 18 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: The Japanese fiction did not create the name, but borrowed it from &amp;quot;[[Alignment]],&amp;quot; which is as English as it gets.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:24, 18 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Our policies are more &amp;quot;firm suggestions&amp;quot; than &amp;quot;absolute laws.&amp;quot;  Galvatron II was only canonically published in Japan, but it&#039;s more canonical than anything else we could possibly call him, so the exception to the rule of English supremacism should stand.  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 13:26, 18 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That also.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:32, 18 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Doh! I forgot about Alignment. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:12, 18 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Galvatron II&amp;quot; is as much a name as &amp;quot;Galvatron (G1)&amp;quot; is. &amp;quot;II&amp;quot; is not part of the character&#039;s actual name, but a disambiguation used in official sources. And you&#039;ll note that the very first sentence in the article names the character simply &amp;quot;Galvatron&amp;quot;. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 14:31, 18 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Then what do we call the Galvatron from Aspects of Evil which came between Galvatron I and Galvatron II?  He can&#039;t be either of them.  [[Special:Contributions/95.148.8.38|95.148.8.38]] 14:53, 20 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Perchance to Dream ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m willing to say that the non-Time Wars Galvatron who showed up in the &amp;quot;Perchance to Dream&amp;quot; stories is actually [[Galvatron II]].  We know he&#039;s not Galvatron I, as he says as much, and the PtD stories are part of the [[Earthforce]] continuity, which references vaguely plans Furman had in mind for the US comic, but ultimately ended up being incompatible.  Now, it&#039;s impossible to reconcile the timeline between these two iterations of the character for that reason, but I do think the PtD stuff should be in its own section on this page.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:27, 23 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think... and I&#039;m not getting them out to check right now, but I THINK... that one of the &amp;quot;history of Marvel UK&amp;quot; sections included in the Titan TPs outright says that the PtD Galvatron is Galvatron II. And while they&#039;re uncredited, I&#039;m fairly sure Furman wrote those himself. I always thought it made a lot of sense, anyway - if one assumes that this is Galvatron II, then essentially, it&#039;s a timeline branch - in one branch, he goes to Cybertron abd the US comic storyline happens, but in the other, he instead goes to the Ark and stars in PtD instead, then Earthforce happens (because Galvatron never does his thing with Emirate Xaaron to make Unicron suspicious, causing him to speed to Cybertron instead of taking his time, leaving the room Earthforce needs to occur).- [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:35, 23 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, that seals it.  The Dinobot Hunt trade says that the PtD Galvatron &amp;quot;is the alternate-reality Galvatron from US #67.&amp;quot;  So.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:52, 23 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Nice sleuthing, wiki-folk!--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 17:34, 23 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: I say the Titan trade is in error in making that statement.  At no point does the Galvatron from Rhythms of Darkness have the oppurtunity or ability to travel to yet another timeline.  For the statement from Titan to be believed, further sleuthing is in order.  Just how and when was it possible for Galvatron to travel to the Earthforce continuity?  The comics don&#039;t support Titan&#039;s statement. [[User:BassX0|BassX0]] 14:51, 8 December 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Um, I may be wrong on this, but I&#039;m pretty sure that Galvatron II didn&#039;t dimension-hop into the timeline before Galvatron I&#039;s creation.  He dimension-hopped into Japanese G-2, right?  Which takes place after Zone in 2015 or so?  So, uh, I feel like we need to nix that bit, but I want to be sure.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 24 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, Ichikawa&#039;s retcon made it so that the Galvatron who appeared in various story pages alongside Megatron and Prime was a dimension-hopping Galvatron II (we even have a fiction section for it right there) and I don&#039;t think any of those story pages were retconned into taking place after G-2.  So it looks like Galvatron II did a couple hops.  First to the pre-2005 point in the timeline so he could act as Megatron&#039;s subordinate in those old story pages, then he either hopped again or took the long way and waited so he coule appear in the post G-2 bios and mini comics.  Either way, the Galvatron seen in those story pages was retconned into Galvatron II, and those pages take place pre-2005, so I don&#039;t think that trivia note is exactly inaccurate. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 08:45, 24 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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In one of the Japanese childrens book series (Kodansha no Terebi Ehon #93), the Galvatron appearing is in his toy colors all the way through. There are not two different Galvatrons within the story. Could this be considered an appearance of II, or just normal Galvatron in toy colors? [[User:HydraDW|HydraDW]] 23:35, 22 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Normal Galvatron can be in toy colors, like the one who was in the Marvel UK material, so I&#039;d imagine he&#039;s just normal Galvatron, unless there&#039;s some strong evidence otherwise.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:51, 22 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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