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==Regarding deletion==
I see no point to having this article. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 07:11, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:There are 4 instances of Ruined Forever on [[Transformers timeline|this page]] alone. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:16, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

::I see no point to having those, either. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 07:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:::JaAm has a page. 'Ruined Forever' is used ironically within the fandom- and this is clearly marked as a fandom article just like [[True fan]] is. Ruined Forever is clearly more prominent than [[Dull surprise]], though possibly not as widely as [[Neon]]. (Which now that I look at it need its opening quote reformatted...) My entire impetus for creating it was that Sntint made an ironic Ruined Forever joke on a talk page and I was like- "huh, why dont' we have a page for that?" (Well, also I wanted to wash the bad tast of [[Don Murphy|Don Murray]] out of my brain.)
:::Ruined Forever appears to rest comfortably within the range of existing articles on the Wiki, but I am content to allow others to decide. If a majority think it's not relevant to Transformers the article can be deleted, as always. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:37, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
::::I say it's as relevant as Playskool, neon, and FIRRIB. {{unsigned|Terrocon Blot}}
:::::And Derik on the rebound to make me feel dumber. It's not enough that I misspelled my own screenname, he's also got to sign my posts for me. Damn that Derik. YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWN. --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 07:49, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I vote for keeping the page. As already stated, a number of other pages already exist to explain similar fandom colloquialisms. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 13:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:I don't see this article as explaining anything. It seems to exist purely to ridicule fandom behavior that we don't like, and thus I see no point to keeping it. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:35, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I think it needs to stay too. Where else would terms like ''Ruined FOREVER'', [[Furmanism]], and Chewed caramels be documented for all time, if not here?--[[User:Evil-yuusha|Evil-yuusha]] 14:59, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:Do these fandom terms need to be ones that are famous/infamous, known or used widely? Then how about TFW2005's 'HE TELL ME' (in reference to that guy who claimed Peter Cullen was cast as RID Prime)? TFW2005 is probably the most prominent of the Transformers fan sites, as well as the one that Hasbro seems to unofficially prefer. I personally never even heard of 'dull surprise' until I read it on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:49, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
::Nor I. But I don't think we're just documenting memes-- each of these articles, Truk !Munky, Chewed caramels even JaAm are 'about' a belief/response/tendency in fandom- not just the phrase used to illustrate it. Dull Surprise is a belief the masturbatory praise heaped on Superstar Funana was undeserved, JaAm is about the backlash against Dreamwave's style-over-sanity lack of visual storytelling, Truk not Monkey encompasses both knee-jerk hatred of BW and frustration about knee-jerks, and Chewed caramels ''seems'' to be about a desire that all TF toylines subscribe to some broad interpretation of G1's design aesthetic. I doubt anyone put ''conscious thought'' into this, but the fandom-meme articles people found worthy of creating aren't ''just'' about the phrase- they're about phrases that expresses something larger about how fans relate to Transformers.
::(I'm not familiar with 'HE TELL ME' and where it may fall with this.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:21, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:::Personally, I think dull surprise is way too limited in use (basically just #wiigii! as far as I know) to really belong here, but Derik does sort of have a point about the article being about a little more than that. I also don't know "HE TELL ME" but it sounds like something worth considering -- claims of unnamed inside sources and all that. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 01:27, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

::::Oops, it was actually Peter Cullen as Armada Prime. The posts (being from 2002), no longer exists, but fortunately blitz_64 managed to save the posts for posterity [http://www.geocities.com/blitz_64/HETELLME.html The Saga of HE TELL ME and GoOP].

::::Actually, Steve-o, I'd say "Secret Inside Sources" would be a more appropriate meme/article to describe that last one. Having never heard of "HE TELL ME", and seeing that few others apparently have either, I'm not sure it's as much a meme as "Secret Inside Sources" is.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 13:45, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

::::Around the same period, I recall some other idiot who claimed to be a Hasbro photographer and described crazy things like the Mini-Cons becoming body armour and Prime's minicon transforming into his Matrix. These claims, while totally false, were important because they apparently spurred Aaron to emerge as ORSON and totally destroy that other dude, IIRC. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:28, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::I remember that quite vividly indeed. The guy who claimed to be the photographer actually revealed himself over [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26415&st=20&p=551756&#entry551756 at the Allspark this year], actually. Oh yeah, and I think the animu thing was 4Chan leakage [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=animu].--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 05:46, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
I say we keep it. [[User:Compy-Rex|Compy-Rex]] 18:55, 16 March 2008 (UTC)Compy-Rex
:If this page is deleted I will cry. [[User:(Undecided)|(Undecided)]] 05:14, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

==Usage==
Has "ruined forever" ever been used seriously by fans? While it describes a real and annoying sentiment, I'm not sure I like basing an article on a phrase that was sarcastic in the first place. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 18:26, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:Seconded. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 18:32, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:I'm sure something very similar, at least, has been used. But regardless, you say that it describes a real sentiment, so, what's the problem? Can you recommend a better title for the article? Or are you saying the article shouldn't exist at all? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 19:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
::Well, my vote is for not existing at all. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:22, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
::: I (and a number of others) used to think "Rapeing my childood" was only used for sarcastic reasons. Then I read the thread on the promo poster for Transformers Animated, which had a number or people using the seriously. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 20:30, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:Has Trukk not Munky ever been used in a non Ironic/Sarcastic way? It's still a catchphrase used by the fandom, as is this. Both rate articles under the fandom category, IMo.--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:24, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:The '''scream your head off in outraged panic''' / '''call for mass-firings or send death threats over something that has/will ruin/ed TF''' ''behavior'' of this article certainly was in evidence during Beast Machines- and I think the "sky is falling" aspect is amply evidenced by the sheer ''number'' of times fans have declared TF ruined forever. (And, clearly, been wrong every time, or every time but 1 depending on your belief system.)
:If you have some other title you'd prefer for this article like 'Clicken-Little Syndrome' by all means propose it and see what people think, but the article speaks to a genuine (and highly mockable) aspect of fandom psychology.
:And frankly, while the ''behavior'' itself is worthy of ridicule, the ''reason'' for it- an exaggerated concern for the health and future of the brand- is actually kinda ''endearing'' and speaks well of fans. At least their ''hearts'' are in the right place. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:32, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

==Paul Dini==

I think accusing the fandom of saying the art style of Paul Dini ''the writer'' being used for Animated will "RUIN TRANSFORMERS FOREVER" is making the article simply too mean-spirited. I've never seen any individual display the idiocy we're accusing the fandom of with that line. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 05:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I have.
Scary, scary stuff.

Also, the last line of the entry seems to cut a little into the humor by overexplaining. Replace it with a "general hasbro idiocy" linking to "transformers" or somesuch?

==Marked for deletion.==

This is getting out of hand.

This page has become the epicenter of an edit war that has gone on for nearly a week now. As of the time of this writing, only six other pages link to this article. While I fully support the light tone of Teletraan I, and I understand that some explanation of aspects of the fandom complete the Wiki, I believe this particular article and debate at this point only detracts from the issue.

I DO agree that it was biased in the form in which it existed before our anonymous editor "friend" decided to change it, but I do not think that matters any longer. This article does not add anything inherently positive to the wiki, indeed, it does not chronicle anything positive ''or'' negative about Transformers itself at all. Its relation to Transformers is tangential at best.

By deleting this, we would not lose anything except the beginnings of what appear to be the modern equivalent of a Usenet flamewar. Deleting it, I believe, can only benefit Teletraan I. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 12:16, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

:I whole-heartedly agree. [[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:23, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
::I agree. I didn't feel this article was necessary, and I still don't. I agree that the fandom is full of idiots who never bothered to grow up after 1986, but our mockery of them doesn't belong in the wiki. Not to say that Mister "integrity of the characters" is right, though. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 12:30, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
:::I'm putting in a vote for keeping it. It's a fun article to read, and it speaks a lot of truth in it's wonderfully snarky way.--[[User:Gouki|Gouki]] 12:32, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Snarkyness can be fun but this article is just pushing it, IMO. [[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:38, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::I think it should stay, it's funny. Also, if you delete it then the terrorists win.
::::::I would keep it. I think it describes a real sentiment, that needs to be pointed out as overblown. [[User:JW|JW]] 13:55, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
The edit war was only between registered users and a single unregistered dude. I've fixed things, at least for the moment, by protecting the page from unregistered editors. If you're gonna get in a pissy editing war, we'd damn well better know who you are. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:26, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
:Our anonymous friend is from the Netherlands, if anybody cares. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 14:33, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

This "Ruined FOREVER" article is stupid and don't make any sense. Its just shit

: [[Seafood Louis]]. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:00, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't know if the opinion of an anon means anything, but I think this article is freaking hilarious. I was talking with a friend about TF:Animated and he said that the girl with the transforming bike 'ruined it permanently' so I linked him this article. He laughed and said, 'ok, well maybe I'm over-reacting.'

I think the article is funny and provides valuable perspective. {{unsigned|66.167.253.76}}
: Well said, citizen. [[User:JW|JW]] 16:23, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
:Well, you've cancelled out the other anon from earlier, at any rate. And yeah, I agree with your assessment of it.--[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 22:43, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
:Same --[[User:Chiasaur11|Chiasaur11]]

I happen to think this article is incredibly useful in charting the tendency for all fans everywhere (but especially TF fans) to react in comical and hyperbolic ways. I think the breadth of what people determine can/has ruined TF forever automatically makes the article an amusing and insightful look for the novice fan into the fandom's reactionary past.

Indeed, I actually have shown this article to people just coming back (or getting into) TF. It's inspired about as many laughs as it has genuine curiosity as to what the fandom and franchise are like as entities. Isn't that the idea of this wiki? I would think reference materials as to the history of the fandom, good and bad, are always a boon.

(and that aside, I just think it's really, really funny)

.... Aaaaaaand I had to go and screw up. Bah. That's me above. --[[User:Cmdr Crayfish|Cmdr Crayfish]] 10:24, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

==Where do we draw the line?==
How do we stop this from becoming just a giant list of everything that anyone has ever expressed any dislike for ever? Why, for instance, is ''The Beast Within'' in there? Or Gonzo (which I thought was generally accepted as at least ''better'' than We've, even if not as good at Mainframe)? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 18:34, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:I've kinda been watching this list grow with some mild irritation- it went from about 1 item for every 2 years to ''twice'' that in fairly short order, and that bothers me.
:I've sorta resolved to edit the list down this October, pruning it (so to speak) with some opportunity for people to say what should stay and what should go.
:The Beast Within has to stay though- at the ''very'' least it ruined the Dinobots forever- now whenever George Rodd brings up combiner Dinobots we have to grudgingly admit they're canon. Also, it was the reason for the article's creation in the first place. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:58, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
::Why wait? If we want this to be a list of developments that prompted widespread fury that lingered for years, we can shorten it to "Actionmasters, BW, BM, Armada, Hallit, and Bay," and perhaps a few others, right now. Then a "Trivia" note saying that The Beast Within really DID ruin Transformers, or at least Dinobots, forever. Just a thought... but yeah, having every single series in there dilutes the point. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 19:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Problem is, how do you decide what deserves to be listed as ruining TF forever, if none of it really did in the first place. I've seen just about everything listed there used as an example of why ____ TF series/movie/toyline will fail--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 20:15, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Also, Thy, I'd append your list with a general "*-masters" thing, as a lot of armchair CEOs claim that the entire -master trend killed the line, not the fact that it had, you know, run its course. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 14:03, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
:::I'll just basically agree with Thy and Hoop that whatever's listed here should have a certain "endurance" as a scapegoat. The turnaround of opinion on Animated was what, two weeks? "* Masters" certainly counts, as should Pretenders. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 14:35, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

:::What, a simple a Google newsgroup search for [http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22killed+transformers%22&start=10&sa=N&scoring=d&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&|"killed transformers"] ain't enough? /:] -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 05:15, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

:I doubt I'd get objections if I added it, but I'd like to throw it by the community: Should we readd [[Transformers: Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]]? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 04:53, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

::I really think Animated should stay in there, if only because it's '''such a dramatic departure.''' Turn around was fast, but the initial reaction was strong. I mean, for the first time in fifteen years of being a fan, I actually found myself muttering "My god... they've finally done it. It's ruined..." --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 05:07, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

beast wars didnt reuin tf beast machines sorta did but it was still quite good ,if u ignore some minor things - Unsigned post by [[User:80.6.180.141|80.6.180.141]]
:You're missing the point of the article, then. The point is that every time something new comes along, the fandom screams about how it will ruin Transformers forever, when in reality it's usually the opposite. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 22:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

==Last Deletion Locked in?==
Spotted a couple of points on the list removed by [[Special:Contributions/Teletraan|someone who seems to like deleting stuff just because]], but when I tried to restore the page, it was already locked. Were his edits accepted, then?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 15:30, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:There are two facets to this. First, without occasional pruning, the list in this article tends to grow, and grow, and grow. Every now and then, someone has to come along and cut it back. Since this is a wiki, the question of what gets cut is made by the person willing to do the cutting.
:The second facet is that the items cut were in fact less core to the "ruined forever" concept. "Runined forever" is a cry that springs up whenever ''something new is added to the Transformers brand'' by HasTak, and it happens every single time. Thus, the fans ''can't'' ruin TF forver, because they don't add new canon. And, while HasTak ''can'' ruin TF forever, it's because they're the only ones who can do so. I.e., one of the cut items was in error, and one was redundant. [[User:JW|JW]] 15:54, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::Fair enough, I suppose. It was a combination of both the deletions and the person who committed them that made me question their validity.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 17:00, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Yah, user Teletraan is not exactly a primo contributor. Still, this particular edit seems (at minimum) defensible. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:03, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

==Masters of the Universe link==
I've never, ever been interested in MOTU, so I have no idea what was the cause of the revamp line's failure, but given the extreme slant of the article, I can only assume it failed because it concentrated on collectors rather than kids. If so, why does it link to a Wikipedia article that cites Mattel's ''"excessive focus on attempting to mass-market the line to a new generation of children rather than focusing on a safer collector-based approach"'' as the reason for the line's failure? Am I missing something or does that sound like the line tanked because it focused on selling toys to kids rather than what this article is railing against? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 11:09, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
: Guess who wrote the Wikipedia article. (Hint: It wasn't kids.) [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 12:04, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

:: The fact is the line failed, no one can say *exactly* why. There are reasons for both oppinions.

::'''Fact:''' The line DID court fans rather than kids in many ways. It didn't reinvent the boat but took the exact looks, exact characters, and in some cases even exact stories the fans clamored for and did them again, only better, prettier, smarter, and more "realisticly". In that respect it was pretty much EXACTLY what older fans of '80s properties clamor for, and said fans generally loved it. But for whatever reason it never caught on with '''actual kids''' in the way the simple, campy, primitive, bowlegged original did. So some see that and blame the line's failure on the older fan mentality.

::'''Also Fact:''' Mattel tried to sell the toyline the way they had Batman. I.E. A million goofy variations on He-man and Skelator (and one or two others) and everyone else was almost impossible to find or didn't get a figure at all. This was very much NOT what collectors wanted. Many blame it for the line's failure at retail, arguing that part of what made the original a hit where the huge variety of strange and different warriors and monsters that Mattel had left out this time in favor of flooding the shelves with He-man repaints and ill-concieved alterations (The entire wave of "samori repaints on stilts" is often pointed to, but are only one of many examples.) Some see this and blame an ill-concieved inapropriate retail stratagy aimed at marketing to kids having crippled the line's retail appeal.

::Personally I think there's some truth to BOTH. For whatever reason (timing, approach, luck,) the older fan oriented cartoon never clicked with the kiddies, '''AND''' the Batman-style retail stratagy was a bad choice for a MOTU type toyline. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:17, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

:::Yes, that was the feeling I got, that is there is no clear cut side to 'blame', and in this case, I think we should ditch the Masters of the Universe link, given the information there contradicts the slant of this article, and in any case it's not a clear cut case of 'it's all the collectors fault'. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:32, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Hrm, there's some legitimate thought there... but it ruins the G.I. Joe comparison. (Why catering to adult collectors and abandoning attempts at reinvention is a losing strategy in the long run necause ther old dudes die off and uyou're not bringing new fans in.)
::::For what it's worth, I meant from design and marketing- I agree that the actual toyline was schitzophrenic- alternating between a slavish adherence to the original designs and case assortments aimed at kida who weren't watching the cartoon.-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:45, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::Here's an idea - how about one of you guys (who actually know about MOTU) edit the wikipedia article so it's more balanced, so we don't end up looking like idiots in this article? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:30, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I think it's worth noting that even in today's environment, the military has ''some'' pull to kids. Not so much the gay, gay fur-bikini barbarians. Sword-and-sorcery has some appeal nowadays, but mostly when it's very Japanesey kids-anime-style. (One could also note that the "big" Joe revival frankly isn't very big. It's pretty damn low-key, really, where He-Man was some major-league THIS WILL BE BIG!!! Lower expectations = greater chance of meeting and exceeding them.) --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 17:06, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, I'd also imagine that production costs on the 25th anniversary Joe figs are pretty darn reasonable on Hasbro's bookkeeping. They've done similar lines for Star Wars for decades, so they know what they're doing.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 17:10, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
::I'm really annoyed that the GI Joe 25th line isn't available here, because Hasbro AU's last attempt to revive GI Joe in Australia totally tanked. If you can believe it, Toys R Us stores here languished under piles of unsold Cobra Trooper 6-packs, which, as I've read in forums, collectors were fighting over. They're not on pegs anymore, so I guess they've been shredded or incinerated by now.--[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:28, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

So have we decided on this link yet? The Wikipedia link still contradicts the snarky joke link of this article. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:38, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:It's always going to, because there will always, ''always'' be enough people who are going to make sure that the bullshit boogeyman "CASE RATIOS!! CASE RATIOS!!! KIDS WANTED ALL THOSE OBSCURE ONE-EPISODE GUYS AND USELESS MINOR VILLANS!!!!!" (while patently ignoring the fact that if you can't sell your ''two primary characters in the line'', maybe there's something wrong with your franchise, not case ratios... it'd be like if a Batman line couldn't sell toys of Batman) is squarely blamed for MOTU's failure. Frankly, I'd say just add a note to OUR article saying "ignore the bullshit about case ratios. Kids just didn't want a line about a boring gay man in a fur bikini." --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:19, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

::Ignoring your general disdain for He-man here, and even the whole case ratio issue, the fact remains that saying (as our snark does) that the newer He-man line "catered exclusively to older collectors" and that this caused its failure is both unprovable, AND very widely disputed. I'd say we should remove the link on those issues alone. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 15:35, 21 February 2008 (UTC) (-'''Edit:''' On a side-note, given the apparent success of the 25th ann. line and the coming movie, the critical G.I.Joe link in there may soon be meaninglessly out of date as well...)

:::And this is my point - we'll start looking like idiots who can't even get our facts or jokes straight if we insist on keeping these links. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 08:28, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:::I see Zac's point- but I think he's reacting to something that's not in the article. We're holding the MOTU reboot as an example of a line that abandoned all attempt at reinvention. Since there ''was'' not reinvention in the reboot line, at all, this should not be up for dispute.
:::We do not say that this is ''why'' the line failed. It probably ''was'', but we don't say that. We merely hold it up as an apporach that's probably unhealthy for Transformers to follow.
:::So to be really blunt-- I don't care what whiny fanboys may have edited Wikipedia to say in support of their view that the line was perfect and viable the way it was. '''A)''' That's masturbatory. '''B)''' It's not what this article is talking about, so it's simply not relevant. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:00, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::::But it says 'cater exclusively to the old-school collectors', which the line evidently did not do. In which case, regardless of if we are holding up as an approach that TF should not follow, it's not a good example in the context of the very joke-link, especially if it sends the reader to an article that disputes the joke. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:28, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::::In this context, that 'catering' refers to design, not case assortments. We're discussing ''reinvention''. One does not 'reinvent' case assortments! And in terms of designs, characters etc... MOTU ''did'' cater. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:31, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::More to the point- we're discussing changign the content on ''this'' page because highly dubious artument on Wikipedia disagrees with something ''we're not even saying here''.
:::::If Wikipedia had a bullshit argument we were actually refuting I might kinda understand this. But we're not! We are actually arguing about removing a link to an article because fanboys have jizzed across it in ways that contradict things our article ''doesn't'' say, but which 'might run through that same fanboy's mind as they read our article.'
:::::While '''I''' clearly feel the fanboy argument is specious-at-best '''it doesn't matter'''. We say it catered to collectors. That's it! '''It's just an example of one extreme a toyline can take.''' -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:40, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

== Why? ==

Why is The [[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]] series , [[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars]] series, the [[The Transformers: The Movie|Movie]], and [[Exclusive]]s listed here?[[User:Autobot Soundwave|Autobot Soundwave]] 19:12, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
:Because fans reacted [[Trukk not munky|very]] [[Pokeformers|negatively]] to a lot of these things, which went on to become major successes. It's satire. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 19:15, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
:Because they ruined Transformers forever, of course.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 19:16, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

== Adding to the list ==

The Cliff Notes version: there's very little reason to.

The full version: Contrary to what [http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Ruined_FOREVER many people think], this is not a list of [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Ruined_FOREVER everything Transformers ever]. It is not even a list of everything Transformers that fans have ever complained about. It is a list of the relative handful of times that something ground-shaking and new has come along, something totally different from what's gone before, something that's not exactly like 1984, that causes people to complain that Transformers has irrevocably jumped the shark and begun sinking into an irreversible oblivion. All this doomsaying is then typically followed by the franchise surging back to life as the awful horrible new thing turns out to be a smashing success. Alternately, the horrible new thing quietly fades away while the franchise chugs along to the next new thing.

Thing is, anybody who's stuck with Transformers to this point is used to these reinventions. Perspective has grown long enough that plenty of fans now understand that anything they don't like will be gone in a year or two. Maybe I'm biased 'cause I only read the Allspark boards and they're fairly intelligent, but cries of RUINED FOREVER are increasingly rare these days.

I don't see why Drift is on the list. Plenty of people think he sucks, but nobody's claiming he's going to bring down the whole franchise. ''All Hail Megatron'' would be a better candidate, because people (including myself!) ''are'' claiming that IDW's whole storyline has been permanently destroyed by it. (You could also make a case for ''Energon'' ("bad anime"), ''Prime Directive'' ("MATURE ADULT XXX" or "Buckets of Blood" or "Pat Lee"), and/or Dreamwave ("The Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man", "Superstars", "Bankruptcy").

I don't see why stolen prototypes are on the list. Yeah, some of us make a fuss over them. Y'know why? Because HASBRO THEMSELVES HAS SAID THEY ARE A THREAT TO THEIR BUSINESS. There's no ridiculously overblown grasping-at-straws fandom absurdity to mock here.

And I'd need to see a LOT of linked posts before I'd accept ROTF on the list. I can't fathom someone having complaints about ROTF that didn't also apply to the first movie. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 12:10, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

:There are new complaints about ROTF - about [[Mudflap (ROTF)|these]] [[Skids (ROTF)|two]].--[[Special:Contributions/172.162.17.159|172.162.17.159]] 08:34, 10 August 2009 (EDT)
::I agree with Repowers 100%. If anything, I think the list could use some trimming. Are people complaining about the Twins? Sure! Is ANYONE saying that Transformers, as a franchise, is over/tainted? Umm ... not that I've heard. Certainly no substantial block of the fandom.
::And stolen prototypes, while I DO think people make a somewhat biggish deal about them, don't really belong on the list either. A: as Repowers points out, Hasbro itself has legitimized the concern. B: people getting annoyed about something is NOT the same as saying that the Transformers brand is beyond recovery. Hell, even AHM seems like a stretch. I think that most of the fandom has gained enough hindsight to know that, at worst, AHM represents a change in direction for *IDW'S* story, but certainly not the end of Transformers as we know it. Hell, ROTF and Animated were contemporary, and both were tremendous successes.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 09:48, 10 August 2009 (EDT)

I'm not sure we we can't have Energon on this list, seeing all the complaints on this very wiki, but, eh.--[[User:Spin-Out|Spin-Out]] 08:00, 14 September 2009 (EDT)
:I disagree. I've read on here that people LIKED it at first, but eventually lost faith/the will to live after watching it. The list chronicles the events which work the OTHER way around. [[User:Metal Gear NOIZE|Metal Gear NOIZE]] 09:07, 14 September 2009 (EDT)
::Yeah, I'd say the list has nothing to do with how good something is, but more with complaints from the fandom and especially even before the thing in question has been released. Having said that, does RiD really warrant a place on the list? Was there really that much of a commotion about it? -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 10:10, 14 September 2009 (EDT)
:::I'm surprised "G1 Bayformers", aka Don Figueroa's new drawing style isn't on this list, given that almost every single opinion on it I found was a flame.....--[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:30, 14 September 2009 (EDT)
::::I loath it to the core of my petty, petty being... but i don't see it as something that will kill or taint the franchise. Kiss-Player is still squicking people ''years'' later... the fact the Japanese owners basically licensed TF loli guro porn is something that genuinely shocks people and lessens their opinion of TF as a whole-- especially since it's not one of those 'worse than it sounds' things, the closer you look, the more disturbing it actually gets. An unpleasant art style inflicted on the comparatively small comic-book audience... just isn't in the same ballpark.
::::I think it's harmed ''IDW'''s Transformers brand equity... people seem a lot more skeptical and a lot more negative of editorially-generated jerking around of the TF brand, because they've now repeatedly dumped directions they committed to in order to chase imaginary gains that never materialized-- apparently heedless of the negative baggage piled on the story in the process. (One more major reset in pursuit of some sort of magical deckchair configuration the editors are convinced is more important than telling good stories... and I might as well be reading DC!) But not the brand overall. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 05:46, 13 October 2009 (EDT)
:::::Not to get all chat roomy here, but... what he said. Oh dear lord, WHAT HE SAID. (Derik, have you posted that sentiment to IDW's boards?) -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 19:49, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

==How about that B.O.T episode==

To many fans, it's considered to be the worst G1 episode ever, so I think it should be placed here. [[User:Dinoman96|Dinoman96]] 17:23, 23 November 2009 (EST)
:Yea, but this isn't a list of what people just call "bad" - it's a list of the things that threw the fandom into a colossal uproar and actually caused people to say Transformers was ruined forever, more for the fact that they were drastically or outlandishly new and different than for their actually being of poor quality. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 17:46, 23 November 2009 (EST)

==Drift==
Shouldn't we add [[Drift (G1)| this Mary Sue]] to Runied FOREVER? {{unsigned|24.62.9.241}}
:No. He hasn't ruined anything forever. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:55, 17 August 2010 (EDT)
:Maybe you should read the page above before you add to it. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 01:02, 18 August 2010 (EDT)

==A quick question (not about adding additional items)...==

Anyone else think that a funnier name for ''Prime'' would be Bayformers Teen Titans? I ask because we've got Bayformers and Teen Titans on the list, and Bayformers Animated kind of throws off the flow. [[User:Ratbatman|Ratbatman]] 20:03, 16 December 2010 (EST)
:To me at least, "Bayformers Animated" flows much better than "Bayformers Teen Titans". --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 20:04, 16 December 2010 (EST)
::A fair point. I meant it more in the manner of fitting with what else was in the article. Not a big deal either way, I suppose. [[User:Ratbatman|Ratbatman]] 20:12, 16 December 2010 (EST)

== Parodies of this page in other media ==

Just in case you didn't noticed it, this page has been parodied several times and in different media:

* http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DarthWiki/RuinedFOREVER (As noted, this wiki is the trope namer for "Ruined FOREVER")
* http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1224448/ruined-forever.aspx
* http://www.helloweenboard.com/topic/4063-seven-sinner-discussion-thread/page__view__findpost__p__336072
* http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47999&page=1
* http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Ruined_FOREVER
* http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/warmachine/163237-blight-spreading-nites-cryx-blog.html#post1416664
* http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_Ruined_FOREVER
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:I love how the Wookiepedia people completely missed the point. [[User:Ratbatman|Ratbatman]] 12:40, 18 May 2011 (EDT)
::...their version seems basically the same sarcastic treatment as ours. Are you reading a different page? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:43, 18 May 2011 (EDT)
:::They seemed a lot more concerned with insignificant detail than this wiki is. However, in retrospect, "completely missed the point" was a bit strong on my part. Maybe the Star Wars fandom is more temperamental than we are? [[User:Ratbatman|Ratbatman]] 12:49, 18 May 2011 (EDT)
::::"''MAYBE''", he says! :D - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:54, 18 May 2011 (EDT)
: Not really parodies, more just... versions. [[User:Esser-Z|Esser-Z]] 11:40, 29 December 2011 (EST)
::Adaptations. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:54, 29 December 2011 (EST)

== Literal for once ==

Pat Lee. --[[Special:Contributions/96.225.181.135|96.225.181.135]] 21:31, 16 April 2012 (EDT)
: Transformers survived him, so not really literally, no. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:00, 16 April 2012 (EDT)
:: The franchise as a whole, but not Dreamwave. Or his reputation. --[[Special:Contributions/96.225.181.135|96.225.181.135]] 21:17, 17 April 2012 (EDT)
::: Not the point of the page. --[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 21:20, 17 April 2012 (EDT)

== Autobots who didn't turn into cars ==

[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-general-discussion/615489-what-characters-killed-g1.html Transformers was ruined FOREVER in 1985!] Seriously.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 14:39, 17 June 2012 (EDT)
:TFW2005 ruined Transformers forever.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 15:07, 17 June 2012 (EDT)

== Dark of the Moon ==
*The first and second movies by Michael bay are on the list, but why not the third. Lots of people complained about the third one. [[User:Black rhino ranger|Black rhino ranger]] 07:49, 11 August 2012 (EDT)

Slag (G1)

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:''Slag is an [[Autobot]] [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]]. Confusingly, he is sometimes known as '''Snarl'''.''

[[Image:Dinobot Hunt Slag.jpg|right|300px|thumb|His name is a swear word. Just the way he likes it.]]
'''Slag''' is the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]] most likely to live up to the team's bad reputation. Slag is surly, mean-spirited, nasty, and disturbingly violent, to the point where it really is a wonder he's not a [[Decepticon]]. Slag will fight anyone, over anything, at the drop of a microchip, and fight dirty. Slag enjoys nothing more than reducing his enemies (and he's more than willing to include annoying Autobots on that list) to pools of molten metal with his [[fire-breath]]. He'd swim in the pools to celebrate if he could.

None of the Dinobots really like [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], but he and [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]] share an especially intense dislike of him. But it's not just Prime's orders he questions. He'll even mouth off at [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] every now and then, but somehow does not end up as scrap or lunch. Slag's bad attitude means the rest of the Autobot forces are unlikely to come to his aid when he bites off more than he can chew.

{{bigquote|Me Slag no like anything.|Slag on Life, the Universe, and Everything|"[[Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 1]]"}}

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Neil Ross]] (English), [[Toshio Ishii]] (Japanese), [[Ken Yamaguchi]] (Japanese, ''The Transformers: The Movie'' only), [[Georges Atlas]] (French), [[Roberto Alexander]] (Latin American), [[Hans-Rainer Müller]] (German, ''Grimlocks New Brain''), [[Bernd Simon]] (German, ''Call of the Primitives''), [[Thomas Albus]] (German, Generation 2 Season 1), [[Christoph Jablonka]] (German, Generation 2 Season 2)

[[Image:SlagG1.jpg|left|150px|thumb|One angry mother slagger!]]
Slag was developed, along with his fellow [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]] and [[Grimlock (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Grimlock]], after the Autobots discovered dinosaur bones in their volcanic headquarters. Inspired by the power of the prehistoric beasts, [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] and [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] built a trio of Dinobots to add firepower to the Autobot forces. The Dinobots proved too dangerous at first, and [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] ordered Wheeljack to abandon the Dinobot project. Wheeljack continued improving the trio of titans in secret, crafting memory components that made them smarter and easier to control. When the rest of the Autobots were captured by the Decepticons at the [[Great Falls]] hydroelectric power plant, Wheeljack dispatched the Dinobots to free their comrades and destroy the Decepticons. The Dinobots succeeded in forcing a Decepticon retreat and were welcomed as members of the Autobot team. {{storylink|S.O.S. Dinobots}}

[[Image:SlagWarofDinos.jpg|right|200px|thumb|I know he's a raging sociopath... but he's so cute!]]

One of Slag's greatest weaknesses was his hostility, and [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] was able to use this to his advantage, turning the Dinobots against Optimus Prime. A new pair of Dinobots, [[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]] and [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]], stalled the old trio until [[Meteorini Chipperoni|the unstable meteor]] nearby exploded. Witnessing Optimus Prime valiantly save Grimlock from the explosion, the Dinobots decided that he was a good, passionate leader, and turned against Megatron as his squad escaped. {{storylink|War of the Dinobots}}

When Cybertron was being pulled into Earth's orbit, Slag pitched in to help stop the destruction. He and his fellow Dinobots created a moat that successfully captured an incoming tidal wave.{{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 2}} After that, the Dinobots were called upon to fight against [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. {{storylink|Heavy Metal War}}

[[Hound (G1)|Hound]] and [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] had trouble teaching Slag and the other Dinobots how to play football. However, when the Autobots needed help to stop the Decepticons and [[Nergill|King Nergill]]'s attack on [[Washington, D.C.]], the Dinobots responded quickly. After the battle, Slag pitched in by using his fire breath to repair the Washington Monument. He came to [[Sub-Atlantica]] with the other Autobots, where he raised hell with his fellow Dinobots.{{storylink|Atlantis, Arise!}}

The Dinobots' powers proved invaluable when they needed to save Optimus Prime from rogue vehicles. Slag transformed into triceratops mode and melted them down. {{storylink|Day of the Machines}}

While Wheeljack attempted to show off Grimlock's newfound finesse, Slag bumped into Grimlock and caused him to run amok. Then Sludge stepped on Slag's tail, and Slag instinctively breathed fire, scorching the Ark's computers. Afterwards, the Dinobots were sent to [[Dinobot Island (G1)|a new island]] that Bumblebee and [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] had discovered so they could master their abilities. Slag liked it, and thought that it'd offer room to move and stumble around. After practicing his "fire stuff", Megatron arrived and using fear, led a pack of dinosaurs to push the Dinobots into a tar pit. {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 1}} However, they managed to get out, and Slag used his fire breath to get the tar off his comrades. {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 2}}

[[Image:DesertionOfDinobots2-SlagCircuits.jpg|thumb|left|180px|H-hey! That's my funny circuit!]]

Slag was sent with the four other Dinobots to an airport with Decepticons in the vicinity, despite his dislike of everything. Breaking into [[Hangar|their secret hideout]] with Snarl, Slag then melted [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]]'s [[null-ray]], to the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]]'s horror, and when he was dogpiled by [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]] and [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], threw them into a plane. When the Dinobots carelessly reverted to robot mode, an explosion knocked them down. Back at the base, Ratchet, Hoist and Wheeljack were able to repair them after countless hours of work. But after the Dinobots heard Optimus send them out for another mission, they had enough. Slag was sick of taking orders and decided to take orders from Grimlock only, and the Dinobots left the Ark. However, when [[Carly]] informed the Dinobots that the Autobots were low on [[cybertonium]], Slag refused to help out, but Grimlock dragged him to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] anyway, since they would be away from the Autobots. {{storylink|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 1}} When they reached Cybertron, Slag rammed [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] and then tried to turn him into a chew-toy. For this, the logic-driven Decepticon altered the Dinobots' [[Circuits|memory circuits]] and put them to work in the [[Cybertonium Pit]]. [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Two]] [[Carly|squishies]] ended up saving them. {{storylink|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 2}}

[[Image:TFTM-QuintessonLeader_Crushed.jpg|thumb|right|180px|He may be in favour of grisly murder, but no one could ever accuse Slag of not having manners.]]

During the [[Battle of Autobot City]], the Dinobots battled [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. Slag was the only one that managed to get a hit on Devastator, ramming into him at full speed. After evacuating Autobot City in the wake of [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]'s attack, the Dinobots refused to leave, and [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] was forced to push Slag into the ship. Possibly to avoid being killed, Kup told the Dinobots about one of his encounters with an [[Ick-Yak]]. The Dinobots, along with Kup and [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], were shot down and crashed on [[Quintessa]]. The Dinobots searched for the two Autobots, with Grimlock believing they were close by, but Slag disagreed. They started hurling insults, and things might have turned violent, had [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] not appeared and pointed them in the right direction. He and Sludge broke down a door as [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticons]] prepared to execute the Autobots, giving a belated "Excuse me!" to a [[Quintesson]] prosecutor—who was being crushed under the combined weight of Slag, Sludge, and the door. Later, Slag literally burned the butt of [[Unicron|a god]]. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}}

{{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4}} {{storylink|Thief in the Night}} {{storylink|Grimlock's New Brain}}

Slag was one of the [[Primitive|Primitives]] who were called by [[Oracle (G1)|Primacron's assistant]] to battle [[Primacron (G1)|Primacron]]'s newest creation, [[Tornedron]]. When Grimlock was believed destroyed when [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] crashed on him, Slag took command of the Dinobots. He came up with an incredibly innovative strategy—lead the Dinobots away until he got a better idea. [[Hun-Gurrr]] thought it was the best idea yet. After Tornedron dispatched the other Primitives, Slag and the Dinobots attacked him, only to have their energy sucked from them. Fortunately, Grimlock survived Trypticon's weight and destroyed Tornedron, fixing everything. {{storylink|Call of the Primitives}}

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====''The Headmasters'' cartoon====
[[Image:SleepySlagAnime1.jpg|left|200px|thumb|So cute when he's not killing things.]]
In the year 2011, Slag, along with his fellow Dinobots, was deployed by [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]] to deal with the sudden invasion of the Decepticon forces. Slag and his team attempted a resistance but were quickly disabled by one of [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]]'s hypnotic spells, which forced them all to fall asleep.

Slag was ''adorable''. {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}}

Later, Slag fought alongside [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]], Optimus, and his fellow Dinobots against Galvatron and his lieutenants. {{storylink|The Mystery of Planet Master}}

{{-}}
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
{{noteukonly}}
''Slag was constructed without the necessary [[emotional damper]]s that would allow him to regulate his moods and rage. This fact made him unpleasant company at the best of times, but also caused a regular glitch in his circuits, turning him into a raging homicidal berserker for a brief period every four million years. Shortly before leaving aboard the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] and the rest of the Autobot crew, Slag experienced one of these "glitches" and wiped out his entire tactical unit. His fellow Dinobots managed to cover up the incident, and Prime and Autobot High Command never learned about it. {{storylink|The 4,000,000 Year Itch!}}''

Slag and the other Dinobots were among the Autobots selected to accompany Optimus Prime on a mission to clear a path for Cybertron through an asteroid belt. {{storylink|The Transformers (issue)|The Transformers}} After their ship crashed on Earth, the Dinobots were reactivated to deal with Shockwave. The team tracked Shockwave to the [[Savage Land]]. {{storylink|The Last Stand}} During the battle, Shockwave was buried under a collapsed mountain, but the Dinobots ended up in a tar pit. There they stayed for four million years, until Ratchet found them. Slag was the first Dinobot Ratchet uncovered from the tar pit; Ratchet probed his memory bank to find out what had happened to the team. Awakened by the probe, a confused and enraged Slag nearly attacked Ratchet, but stopped once he realized he was an Autobot. Told that Shockwave lived again, Slag readily agreed on behalf of the Dinobots to hunt him down once more. However, the Dinobots had to deal with Megatron first; they did not fare well. After Ratchet managed to defeat the Decepticon leader, the Dinobots accompanied him back to the Ark. {{storylink|Repeat Performance!}}

''On the way, Ratchet tried to explain to the Dinobots that scarring the piss out of humans wasn't a good idea, but the lesson didn't really take. At the Ark, they were confronted by a little going-away present from Shockwave — the defense drone known as [[Guardian (Marvel)|Guardian]], reprogrammed to attack the Autobots. {{storylink|Decepticon Dam-Busters!|Decepticon Dam-Busters!}} Slag and the others did little damage to the battle droid before Ratchet chased it off by blasting a weak spot on Guardian with a laser emitter. The Dinobots continued to hunt Guardian through the Ark while Ratchet made with the repairs to the other Autobots. The situation became more difficult, however, once they uncovered the presence of a thermonuclear bomb inside of Guardian. {{storylink|The Wrath of Guardian!}} Eventually, after the bomb was activated, it was Swoop who carried Guardian a safe distance away from the Ark before he exploded, apparently killing Swoop in the blast. With the loss of one of their comrades, Slag and the other Dinobots chose to leave the Ark and seek their own path on Earth. {{storylink|The Wrath of Grimlock!}}''

''Over the following weeks, each Dinobot began suffering from a breakdown of their [[Cybo-dendron|cybo-dendrons]], an anomaly in their neuro-circuitry caused by their extended time spent immersed in the tar pits. This corrosion caused them to revert to a near mindless, animal state. Slag had retreated to the Old River Valley in the Idaho badlands and, once they learned about the Dinobots' problem, it was there that the Autobots sought him out. A search team consisting of [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]], [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]], and [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] arrived in one of the shuttles and found Slag in a one-sided struggle with two human cowboys. After getting the humans to safety, the Autobots tried to wrangle themselves a turbo-steer. They tried some amusing tactics like taking the triceratops by the horns or using Ironhide like a red flag to distract the fighting mad Dinobot, but ultimately they couldn't have won without the help of the Decepticons. Ironhide found [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] spying on them and, after stunning the tin-plated turkey, he grabbed the Decepticon and thrust him inside Slag's mouth just before the Dinobot let loose with his flame breath. The resulting backwash took Slag off-line and allowed the Autobots to take him into protective custody. {{storylink|Dinobot Hunt!}}''

''Although Ratchet managed to repair the cybo-dendron damage, the Dinobots remained trapped in comatose states, experiencing the occasional dreams as their minds attempt to wake up. Slag's dreams revolve around the epic battle he had with Shockwave four million years ago, and the haunting feeling of going off-line beneath the tar pits. {{storylink|Victory!}} Slag and the other Dinobots eventually recovered fully from their ordeal, although they were still none to happen to see Ratchet upon awakening. {{storylink|Second Generation!}}''

The Dinobots were largely uncomfortable under Optimus Prime command. When Prime organized a battle unit to assault the Decepticon base, not to demolish their enemy but to record some vital data, the Dinobots balked at the idea. The idea of going into battle without intending to win was an anathema to them. [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]], Slag and the other Dinobots chose to abandon the Autobot cause instead of putting up with Optimus Prime's "cowardly" ways any longer. {{storylink|Command Performances!}}

''After their big speech, the Dinobots apparently hung around the Ark for a little while anyways, but soon became bored with their inactivity (as they were now soldiers without a general). Finally, on a whim, they decided to help Sludge go after the "beautiful golden human" he had met while his cybo-dendrons were malfunctioning. [[Joy Meadows]], the aforementioned "human", was a reporter who drew some serious heat after she started questioning the [[Donny Finkleberg|Robot-Master]] cover story being pumped over the air waves. Both the Decepticons and the U.S. government had a stake in making sure the public believed all the Transformers were under the control of a so-called "terrorist", and so they wanted her silenced. After the Dinobots agreed to do an interview with Meadows to set the story straight, Swoop flew off to pick up her camera crew, but found his transformation controls malfunctioning when he returned. Demonstrating his rarely acknowledged tech-smarts, Slag located and identified a homing beacon on Swoop, crushing it. Despite that, they were still found by the Decepticons. The 'Cons ultimately won the skirmish — [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] wiped Meadows' tapes and the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] personally laid the beatdown on Slag and the others. Despite some grumbling afterwards, Slag and the Dinobots mostly decided to give up on the idea of "telling their story" to the humans. {{storylink|In the National Interest}}''

''When the future Decepticon named [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] returned to the 1980's, his first act was to destroy [[Centurion (Marvel)|Centurion]], a mechanoid who had befriended the Dinobots. Seeking revenge, they came after Galvatron in a pitched battle alongside several Autobots and Decepticons. Despite all the force levelled against him, however, the battle against Galvatron ended with a stalemate, at best. {{storylink|Fallen Angel}}''

After some time on their own, the Dinobots wound up living in the Cascade Forest range in Oregon, some distance away from [[Mount St. Hilary]]. Once they heard of Optimus Prime's death, Grimlock planned on storming the Ark and demanding that the Autobots name him the new leader. On the way, however, they found that the Decepticon had unleashed the living battle station known as [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] on the Autobots. When Grimlock joined the battle to protect an endangered human, Slag and the other Dinobots joined in the fight as well. They did so much damage that Trypticon was forced to return to Cybertron to replenish his fuel supplies. After this impressive showing, Grimlock was voluntarily named the new Autobot leader, and the Dinobots rejoined the Ark's crew. {{storylink|King of the Hill!}}

''When Swoop got into a fight with his old sparring partner, [[Divebomb (G1)|Divebomb]], the Dinobots and [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]] were drawn into a pitched war with each other. Slag and Snarl engaged in head-butting games with [[Headstrong]] and [[Tantrum]]. After playing with them a bit, the Dinobots easily brought down their Predacon opponents. {{storylink|Grudge Match!}}''

Grimlock and the Dinobots started to let their new power go to their heads pretty soon. Grimlock started wearing a tin crown of all things, while Slag and the others began acting more like mob enforcers than Heroic Autobots. After the Autobot named [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] went AWOL, Grimlock swore out a vendetta against him and even went so far as to cast some of Blaster's human acquaintances into space (albeit with space suits). When another Autobot named [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] intervened on the humans' behalf, the Dinobots chased him into an asteroid belt. In order to prevent any further harm from coming to the humans, Blaster surrendered himself to Grimlock. {{storylink|Spacehikers!}} A short time thereafter, Grimlock and Blaster settled their differences through trial by combat, {{storylink|Totaled!}} and the return of Optimus Prime as Autobot leader gave the Dinobots a chance to mellow out a little.

''The super-Decepticon known as Galvatron had become more and more of a threat to the Transformers, not only due to his raw power but also because of the time-warping effect his prolonged presence in the past was having. Optimus Prime and Grimlock were in the midst of rallying their troops for a major offensive against Galvatron, before the time storm consumed them all, when several Autobots teleported back in time from 2009. The resulting mass-displacement effect, however, made it appear as if Prime and several other Autobots were disintegrated on the spot. Enraged, [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] led Slag and several other Autobots into battle against the murderous impostors". Slag and the remaining Dinobots showed off their awesome warrior strength by ganging up on [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]], or "the broad" as Slag called her. The future [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] stepped in to teach Slag a lesson in manners, using him as a bludgeon to knock out Sludge. {{storylink|Time Wars}}''

As temperamental as he was, Slag at least had the sense to point out during the [[Underbase]] fiasco that the people of [[Tokyo]] were not [[TakaraTomy|well aware]] of Transformers as a whole, and possibly mistook the Dinobots for movie props. Unfortunately, this was right before the Dinobots had to deal with [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], and like his teammates, Slag got, well, slagged. {{storylink|Dark Star}}

Many months later, Grimlock managed to bring Slag and the other Dinobots back on-line using the [[Nucleon]] reservoirs of [[Hydrus Four]]. He filled the containment units in his shuttlecraft, hoping to bring back enoug Nucleon to revive the Ark's entire crew. {{storylink|...All This and Civil War 2}} Surprisingly enough, the returning Dinobots found the Ark empty, as [[Primus]] had teleported all Transformers from Earth to Cybertron to engage in final battle with [[Unicron]]. En route to Cybertron, Slag and Sludge pumped enough Nucleon into the life sustaining pods to bring back a full battle unit of Autobots. {{storylink|The Void! (US)|The Void!}} Slag and the Dinobots eagerly joined in the fight against Unicron once they arrived home. {{storylink|On the Edge of Extinction!}}

After Prime died in the war, Grimlock was named Autobot commander once more. His first mission was to look for the Ark, which had gone missing after the Dinobots used the ship to clock Unicron in the jaw and crashed it. They didn't find the Ark, but Slag and the Dinobots fought a group of metallic demons who had been unearthed during the cataclysmic fight with Unicron. {{storylink|Still Life!}} Although [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] was attempting to maintain a truce with the Decepticons, Grimlock and the Dinobots recognized how improbable that was. Therefore, while the peace talks were going on, Grimlock sent Slag and the other Dinobots to the [[Rad Zone]] to recover some [[Graviton (Classics)|hidden starships]] they had hijacked millions of years prior. It was a good thing he did, because the Decepticons betrayed the Autobots, leaving them stranded on the dying planet without transport off it otherwise. {{storylink|A Savage Circle}} Using a homing beacon he had planted on one of the Decepticon ships, Grimlock tracked them down to the planet [[Klo]]. The Autobots had been expected, however, and the Decepticon welcoming party annihilated the Autobot army. Within a short period of time, only five Autobots were left alive: Grimlock, Slag, Prowl, [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] and Blaster. They continued to fight on, regardless of the hopelessness of the situation, and their stubborn refusal to just lay down and die was rewarded. Optimus Prime arrived on Klo to turn the tide, thanks to his new [[Action Master]] body and the help of the [[Last Autobot]], a powerful Transformer who revived the entire Autobot army with his powers. The Decepticons were driven from Klo, and the Autobots celebrated a true victory. {{storylink|End of the Road! (US)|End of the Road!}}

=====Marvel UK future timelines=====
''In 2008, Slag and the Dinobots were one of several special units unleashed on the Decepticon attack force when [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] and [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] led the 'Cons on a siege of the Autobots' main base on Cybertron. Slag was seen barrelling through the Decepticon forces like a living juggernaut. Autobot High Command soon learned this assault was only a distraction, however, engineered by [[Unicron]] himself who was reconstructing himself on the [[Junkion (planet)|planet of Junk]]. When [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] returned from Junk with this news, [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]] gathered [[Scattershot (G1)|Scattershot]], Grimlock, and the rest of the Dinobots with him to make an assault on Junk. Much to Rodimus's dismay, Slag and the Dinobots didn't hold back at all when attacking the [[Junkion (species)|Junkions]] Unicron had mind-controlled into doing his bidding, and tore through them as if they were any other enemy. {{storylink|The Legacy of Unicron!}}''

=====Earthforce=====
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''Sometime shortly after the [[Matrix Quest]], Slag and his fellow Dinobots were revived by Grimlock and returned to action in the Autobot army. Their more brutal methods didn't sit well with Optimus Prime, but ultimately he chose to leave Grimlock in charge of a special Earthforce, guarding the planet while he led the Ark's crew out in space to deal with the threat of Unicron. {{storylink|Break-Away!}} While the Autobot Earthbase was under construction, Slag and his fellow Dinobots decided to engage in an Earth custom known as April Fools' Day and have a little fun at their leader's expense. Slag used his vast technical knowledge to rig up a fake video message from Decepticon commander [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]], and the Dinobots used it to lure Grimlock out into a blizzard, convinced that he was going to a one-on-one duel with the Decepticon. Instead, he found a snowman with a cardboard sign, proclaiming him an "April Fool". Amusing as it was, Grimlock was last seen heading towards the Dinobots with a massive snowball over his head, so he might not have taken it too well. {{storylink|Snow Fun!}}''

''When the [[Survivors]] joined up with Earthforce in order to get help for their ally [[Carnivac (G1)|Carnivac]], Slag was part of the strike team that went to attack the [[Mayhem Attack Squad|Mayhems]]' island, and he fought the Pretender [[Stranglehold]]. {{storylink|Where Wolf?}} He was present at Earthbase for the unveiling of Wheeljack's new defense system {{storylink|The House that Wheeljack Built!}} and, shortly thereafter, fought back against a major Decepticon offensive led by Soundwave. He roasted the Constructicon [[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]] with his flame breath, and the 'Cons eventually retreated. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer!}}''

''With the sort of bad timing that only happens in comic books and soap operas, Optimus Prime came to Earthbase for a tour and inspection right when Slag's next 4,000,000 year berserker rage came due. This led to a hilarious romp through Earthbase, as the Dinobots desperately attempted to keep Slag under control while Grimlock tried to keep Prime unaware of what was going on. Comedy gold! {{storylink|The 4,000,000 Year Itch!}}''

''Later, when Snarl was suffering from [[Corrodia Gravis]], the Autobots were forced into the unpleasant circumstance of seeking out the only known compatible Transformer for a transfer: [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. What's worse, their petition for aid came right in the middle of Megatron and Shockwave's assassination attempt on the treacherous [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]]. Forced to fight for Starscream's life, Slag held his own against Megatron in combat. He rear-ended the Decepticon with his horns and then set him on fire with his flame breath. Megatron tore out of there as if his reactor linkage was on fire. Which, incidentally... {{storylink|The Lesser Evil!}}''

=====''Another Time and Place''=====
Several months after the golden age of Cybertron was reintroduced, more and more Transformers were succumbing to the effects of Nucleon. Slag was the only Dinobot still able to transform at this time. When Grimlock received information that the Hydrus Four facilities had reopened and discovered a means of reversing Nucleonic changes, the Dinobots jumped at the idea. Despite Prime's half-hearted warnings, Slag and his teammates followed Grimlock back to Hydrus Four in the hopes of becoming Transformers once again. They were followed by the "exiled" Decepticons, however, and a battle with a huge native creature delayed the Dinobots long enough for Bludgeon's crew to get ahead of them and take over the Nucleon facility. The Dinobots were laid low by a [[Holocaust Trigger]], overloading their sensory circuits so that they were helpless before the Decepticons. Cruelly tortured, the Dinobots were still left alive so that they could witness the rebirth of Megatron, thanks to the Nucleon infusions Bludgeon was feeding him. Luckily, the Autobots had long since learned to become worried whenever the Dinobots were out of sight for too long, and had followed them to Hydrus Four. [[Roadhandler (G1)|Roadhandler]], [[Tote]] and several [[Micromaster|Micromasters]] managed to free the injured Dinobots, and an Autobot strike force brought down their Decepticon captors. The Nucleon reversion process was a success, and Slag and his comrades were restored as fully operational Transformers. {{storylink|Another Time & Place}}

====Generation 2====
[[Image:Eating contest.jpg|right|150px|thumb|What's a little cannibalism between buddies?]]
Slag and the Dinobots were fighting alongside Grimlock and a small group of Autobot firestormers when they uncovered the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian Empire]] and their terraforming measures. After calling in Optimus Prime and the rest of the Autobots, they became part of a major offensive against not only [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] and his ilk, but everything they represented. {{storylink|War Without End!}} Despite Prime serving as overall commander, however, Slag and his buddies were still Dinobots first and foremost. So when Grimlock wanted to take first strike action against Prime's orders, there was no question whom they'd follow. Slag and the others were captured almost immediately, though, and only escaped thanks to the timely intervention of Optimus Prime and his more loyal group of soldiers. {{storylink|Devices and Desires! (Marvel)|Devices and Desires!}}

Slag continued to fight alongside the Autobots with his Dinobot comrades, on both Earth and [[Ethos]]. {{storylink|The Gathering Darkness}} {{storylink|Escalation!}} Later, after the Autobots forged an alliance with the first-generation Decepticons against the Cybertronians, the Dinobots got into the spirit of things—they teamed up with [[Headstrong]] and [[Weirdwolf]] in a metal-munching contest to see who could chow down on the most Cybertronians.

Man, too bad [[Hun-Gurrr|Hun-Grrr]] and [[Skullcruncher]] weren't there to make it a real contest. {{storylink|Total War!}}

In the final battle with the [[Swarm (G2)|Swarm]], Slag was seen arranging the alliance's defenses against the voracious creature. He later gave his life in a futile attempt to protect [[Slingshot (G1)|Slingshot]] from the Swarm, proving once and for that all Dinobots truly do care about their other Autobots... as long as they're also obnoxious loners. {{storylink|A Rage in Heaven!}}

====''Classics''====
When [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]], [[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]], and [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]] joined that huge jerk [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], that was just asking too much. Slag and [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]] instead ended up in the entourage of [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] and his friends, becoming the muscle to his wandering detective organization. And when push comes to shove the other guy through something, he doesn't aim for the window. {{storylink|Cheap Shots}}

Slag goes absolutely crazy-murderous-berzerker once every 4 million years. {{storylink|Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 22|Slag's ''Classics'' profile}}

{{Note|Slag's rage-every-four-million-years thing was ganked from an [[Earthforce]] story, despite ''Classics'' ignoring nearly all the Marvel UK material.}}

===Dreamwave comics continuity===
Slag was chosen by Grimlock to join his commando unit, and was with them in the [[Dark Ages]] when they split off to become the [[Lightning Strike Coalition]]. Upon learning that [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] was meeting with Shockwave in the [[Neutral Territories]], Grimlock took the Dynobots to kill them for treason. The others, however, were more worried about [[Trypticon (G1)|the new Decepticon battlestation]] that was massacring the [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]'s Autobots (Slag didn't care about the bots, he wanted a piece of the action). Grimlock got pissed, poked Slag, and ordered him to follow his orders or get physical. Swoop finally convinced Grimlock to let them go while he went for Jetfire and Shockwave. After the battle, they discovered that someone had taken Grimlock and Jetfire, and there was no sign of Shockwave. When [[The Fallen]] was discovered, the LSC were forced into a temporary alliance with Shockwave's Decepticons to rescue Grimlock and the others.

Despite the truce, Slag still decked [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]]. Nobody cared. {{storylink|Transformers: War Within: The Dark Ages|War Within: The Dark Ages}}

[[Image:DWColdWar Slag Octane.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Me Slag like collect trophy like [[Lockdown (Animated)|him.]]]]
After the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] and the ''[[Nemesis (G1)|Nemesis]]'' crash-landed on Earth, the Dynobots followed the Insecticons there. They owned the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]], who subsequently played dead until Grimlock and Slag got bored and wandered off. {{storylink|Extermination}} However, the Dinobots became trapped in [[stasis lock]]. After awakening, Megatron captured the Dinobots, using their imprisonment to force Grimlock to side with the Decepticons. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 3}} Grimlock freed them after Shockwave captured Megatron and Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Brothers' Burden}} After returning to the Shockwave-controlled Cybertron, [[Octane]] poked Slag in the head and called him a "primitive".

Octane doesn't have a body anymore. {{storylink|Cold War (issue)|Cold War}}

The Dinobots launched an attack on [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], heading for [[Shockwave's Tower]]. Grimlock ordered Slag and the others to keep pushing forward as he made a side-trip to the [[Smelting pool|smelting pits]] to personally confront Shockwave. Before they could reach their destination, the Dinobots were halted by the newly-reawakened [[Guardian robot|Omega Sentinels]]. Slag barely managed to send a distress call to Grimlock before being defeated. {{storylink|Passive Aggression}}

Much later, after Shockwave's defeat, the Dinobots were ordered by Ultra Magnus to accompany Kup on a trip to establish a base on one of Cybertron's moons. {{storylink|The Route of All Evil}}

{{Note|Then [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] died.}}

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===''G.I.Joe vs Transformers''===
Along with Grimlock, Snarl, Sludge and Swoop, Slag was transported into Earth's distant past by a malfunctioning [[Teletran 3]], where he was reformatted into a triceratops. A group consisting of three [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joes]] and a [[Cobra]] [[Cobra Viper|Viper]] successfully retrieved them, and the new "Dinobots" made short work of [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] and his troops. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 4|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II #4}}

===IDW comic continuity===
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Slag first met Grimlock in a brig on Cybertron, after he'd ''shot his commanding officer in the back'' to convince him they were outflanked and had to make a frontal assault. Grimlock thought this made him an awesome, clear-thinking guy, and the two of them discussed forming their own semi-autonomous strike team, one that Slag declared would follow no rules. {{storylink|Maximum Dinobots issue 2}}

Later, Slag responded to Optimus' rallying call for additional support and fought in the following battle for control of Cybertron. {{storylink|Broadcast}} During the battle, he and his Dynobots took out [[Onslaught (G1)|alot]] [[Brawl (G1)|of tanks]]. {{storylink|Endgame}}

With the Dynobots, his contribution to the grand Autobot cause of freedom for all was to murder Decepticons who surrendered and play "kick the can" with severed heads. {{storylink|Maximum Dinobots issue 1}} He constantly tried to deny they were a team at ''all'', saying they put the "un" into "unit" (and apparently he put the "lame" into "jokes"). {{storylink|Maximum Dinobots issue 2}}

[[Image:SpotlightShockwave GrimlockSlag trexscan.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Slag knows that Grimlock is the harshest critic of his light sculpting.]]
Slag and the other Dynobots followed Grimlock to revenge themselves against Shockwave, who blew up a cache of [[energon]] they had stolen. When Shockwave traveled to [[Earth]], the Dynobots pursued him. Slag appeared to be the team's tech specialist, originating the idea of organic beast modes as a defense against energon overload. That's pretty innovative for a guy who spends most of his time thinking how better to kill everyone around him. Sadly, it did not protect the Dynobots from Shockwave's energy blasts, which melted the artificial skin and caused the Dynobots to go into [[stasis lock]] due to excessive [[Energon radiation]]. Due to a dead man's switch, the [[Skyfire (ship)|Dynobots' ship]] blasted a volcano that buried everyone in molten lava. {{storylink|Spotlight: Shockwave}}

The Dynobots were eventually excavated by [[Skywatch]], and though Grimlock was the first to be brought back online, he was freed from Skywatch's control through a virus implanted by a [[Machination]] spy (under orders from [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]). Scorponok wanted Grimlock to join him, but Grimlock refused, fought Scorponok and escaped, vowing to find and rescue Slag and the other Dynobots. Scorponok, however planned to take control of the Dynobots himself and use them to assassinate Grimlock. {{storylink|Spotlight: Grimlock}}

Skywatch activated Slag, and in a test run, had him melt a tank. When Grimlock showed up in [[Fallon]], he and the other Dynobots were sent to intercept him. {{storylink|Maximum Dinobots issue 1}}

[[Image:SlagMaxDino02.jpg|left|300px|thumb|This is revenge for the Triceratops always losing the fights in the movies.]]
Grimlock tried to break Slag's programming by reminding him of their shared past, which not only didn't work but got him set on fire. Making matters worse, [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] decided to reduce the programming remotely, at which point Slag shot Grimlock ''more'' and got enraged to find out Grimlock had set up a dead man's switch that nearly killed them without telling ''anyone''. Slag even decided they had been a team after all and this was a betrayal. However, Grimlock silenced him by reminding Slag of what he wanted the Dynobots to be, and how what he did was following Slag's ethos ''exactly''. {{storylink|Maximum Dinobots issue 2}}

Grimlock took the opportunity to inform the others of the current situation and what they needed to do, but Slag and the others weren't going to fall in line so easily. In particular, Swoop expressed his anger and disappointment in Grimlock's actions and decided to leave on his own. Slag, Snarl, and Sludge departed as well, leaving Grimlock standing there and fuming. Scorponok had his [[Sunstreaker clone]] army attack Grimlock at this point and they did so with gusto, ignoring the other Dynobots. Seeing their leader besieged, Slag and the others decided, for better or worse, that they were still Dynobots and had to stick together. They set to the task of trashing Sunstreaker clones until they were surrounded and nearly overwhelmed. But the [[Monsterbot]]s arrived on the scene, having been summoned by Grimlock earlier, and began to turn the tide. Slag was quite disbelieving that Grimlock would even think of calling upon [[Repugnus (G1)|Repugnus']] crew for help, but that didn't stop him from continuing to wreck Sunstreaker clones. {{storylink|Maximum Dinobots issue 3}}

[[Image:MaximumDinobots5HotRodSwoopSlag.jpg|right|300px|thumb|]]
Realizing they didn't have the advantage anymore, the surviving Sunstreaker clones retreated. The Dynobots hitched a ride in the Monsterbots' ship and headed for Machination headquarters. Aboard the ship, Grimlock discussed the matter of payment with Repugnus as the other Dynobots discussed how distasteful they found the whole situation (And you know it ''had'' to be ''really'' distasteful if the Dynobots were grousing about it!). Slag kept quiet but appeared as annoyed as the others as Grimlock told them he had worked out a temporary alliance with the Monsterbots. But again, as annoyed as the other Dynobots were, it didn't stop them from leaping into battle after Grimlock when they arrived at Machination HQ. They were greeted by yet more Sunstreaker clones, and proceeded to go about demolishing them. Finally, the clones were switched-off when [[Hunter O'Nion]] disconnected the original Sunstreaker's head, thus robbing the Machination grunts of their ability to control the clone bodies. The badly-damaged Hot Rod arrived, having just escaped from Machination HQ and explained what had occurred to the Dynobots. Sludge began to celebrate their victory when he was suddenly blasted by Scorponok, who decided to take a personal hand in the battle. {{storylink|Maximum Dinobots issue 4}}

[[Image:MaximumDinobots5Monsterbotsmakeanoffer.jpg|left|250px|thumb|"You're jerks, but do you have what it takes to be SUPER-jerks?"]]
To top it off, Shockwave arrived on the scene, and quickly engaged Scorponok for the right to destroy the remaining Dynobots. With Sludge apparently dead, Grimlock told the others to retreat without him, as he was finally seeing the cost of his uncompromising attitude. Slag asked Hot Rod if he wanted to bolt with them, but Hot Rod declined. Slag, Snarl, and Swoop decided to cut out while the getting was good and headed due east to an extraction point where the Monsterbots were waiting. Upon arrival, Repugnus mentioned that they'd be good fits for the team, due to their apparent concern with self-preservation. This remark did not seem to sit well with Slag and the others and they decided to go back and help Grimlock. When they returned to the battlefield, they found that Scorponok had retreated and Grimlock was fighting Shockwave. What's more, Sludge had come back online, thanks to a spark-jump from Grimlock. They leaped into battle with Shockwave, even as Grimlock implored them to go find Scorponok. Grimlock managed to drag himself and Shockwave away from the others, giving the other Dynobots an opportunity to infiltrate the main Machination complex. They managed to find their way to the chamber where Scorponok had stored his original head, and engaged the Decepticon [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] in battle there. Hot Rod directed Swoop to sever the connections keeping Scorponok's original head functional. Swoop did so, and Scorponok was painfully disabled and left at the Dynobots' mercy. But before they could kill him, Ultra Magnus arrived and told them that Scorponok would instead be jailed and made to pay for his crimes. He also suggested that they quickly remove all Cybertronian technology from the facility and leave as soon as possible. Everyone was totally cool with this.

In the end, Ultra Magnus canceled outstanding warrants he had on the other Dynobots when Grimlock (who had managed to disable Shockwave) took the fall and admitted that going rogue was completely his idea. Grimlock was satisfied that he managed to save Sludge and his team was online and together again. Slag and the others were seen repairing the ''Skyfire'' and preparing to leave Earth. {{storylink|Maximum Dinobots issue 5}}

===''Wings Universe''===
Together with [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] and [[Kup (G1)|Kup]], the Dinobots were onboard a shuttle fleeing from [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]], [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] and the [[Sweep]]s, though they were more concerned about hearing one of Kup's war stories than being under attack. When they found temporary safety inside a nebula, Kup relented and told them about the time he was in the [[Cybertron Elite Guard|Elite Guard]] and fought on [[Beta-Nine]]. Eventually the Decepticons found them, but Slag and the other Dinobots were so angry about the interruption that they made short work of the attackers. {{storylink|Wings of Honor}}
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==Games==
===''The Transformers'' (PS2)===
{{Note|Slag is a non-playable character. He appears among the legion of Autobot duplicates in the Decepticon campaign.}}
{{storylink|The Transformers (PS2)|The Transformers}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:G1Slag toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|This... good enough for... Slag!]]
*'''Slag''' (Dinobot, 1985/1986/1991/1992)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''28'''
**''Accessories'': "Energo Sword", "Electron Blaster", "Rocket Pod", 3 rockets

:Slag was released as part of the second series of ''Transformers'' in 1985. The toy transformed into a robotic ''[[wikipedia:Triceratops|Triceratops]]'', and came with a missile launcher that could fit in the shoulder socket of both the robot and dinosaur, a red sword, a silver "electro blaster" and three silver rockets. Like many ''[[Diaclone]]''-era toys, Slag had a conspicuous driver compartment contained in his chest.

: Slag was later re-released in the European-markets "[[Classics (Europe)|Classics]]" series. In Japan, he and the other Dinobots were offered as mail-away items during [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Operation Combination (toyline)|Operation Combination]], at a cost of 2300 yen (his original retail price) and two [[Robot Point]]s.

===Generation 2===
*'''Slag''' (Dinobot, 1993)
**''Accessories'': "Kinetic Sword", "Blaster Gun"

: The original Slag toy went through several iterations in the [[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|''Generation 2'' line]]. First, he was re-released in the original silver base color; the only notable difference in the toy proper is the inclusion of the "AUTOBOT" [[tampograph]] on one of his robot-mode legs.

: The toy then had its silver changed to red, and ''then'' changed again to dark green. The final green coloration is the most common, while the red and silver variations go for a little more on the secondary market.

: All three versions retain his original sword and rifle (which were renamed), but do not have the rocket pod or missiles from the Generation 1 release.

==Merchandise==
===Decoy===
*'''Cybertron Hero Collection 9''' (multi-pack, 1986)

*'''Slag''' (1987)
**''Decoy number:'' '''5'''

: The figurine was later brought over to [[Hasbro]] markets as part of the [[Decoy]] promotion, largely identical to the Japanese release except for the fact that the number on his back was replaced with a simple "checklist" number. Like all Autobot Decoys, he was a randomly-chosen pack-in available with the carded [[Throttlebot]]s, [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]] and [[Technobot (G1)|Technobots]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Autobot/Decoys/Slag/slag.htm More information on Decoy Slag at TFU.info]''

===Robot Heroes===
====Generation 1 Series====
[[Image:Snarl & Sharkticon G1 Robot Heroes.jpg|right|thumb|200px]]
*'''Snarl Vs Sharkticon''' (2009)

:A tiny, adorably homicidal "Slag" that came packaged with a [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticon]]. Like ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' [[Snarl (Animated)|Snarl]], who was also designed with G1 Slag in mind, the Robot Heroes figure was released using the name of Slag's fellow Dinobot [[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]], so Hasbro could release the toy in the United Kingdom ("Slag" is considered an insult there).
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==Notes==
[[Image:DiacloneSlag.jpg|thumb|200px|Hey Weevil. Check it out. My dinosaur is horny.]]
[[Image:HornGeist.jpg|thumb|200px|Angriest idiot.]]
*Slag had the preliminary name of '''Tricerabot'''.
* Slag's original toy was originally a ''[[Diaclone]]'' Dinosaur Robo Triceratops. In the ''Diaclone'' lore, this dinomech was a pilotable vehicle that could travel at speeds up of to 250 kilometers per hour and was designed for grasslands operation and melee combat. It also had a slightly different color scheme for its robot-mode bits.

*Slag's cartoon coloration deviates notably from his toy. His robot-mode head is red instead of black, his Triceratops jaw is gold-chrome instead of silver-chrome, and his large horns are silver-chrome like the Diaclone toy instead of the Transformers version's bare red.

* The European exclusive [[Action Master]] Decepticon [[Charger]] cribs Slag's quote, his function, much of his [[bio]], and his [[Tech Spec]]s. Whether there was any relation intended between the characters or if the copywriters just got lazy is unknown.

* The overall design and transformation sequence of the original Slag toy served as the basis for '''Horn Geist''', one of four recurring villainous henchmen on the Takara/Sunrise co-production ''[[Brave (franchise)|Brave Exkaiser]]''. In what might be called [[Beast (G1)|a vision of things to come]], the four "Geisters" were once briefly fused into a single robot called "[[:Image:MadGeister.jpg|Mad Geister]]" (マッドガイスター ''Maddogaisutā''). However, because each Geister controlled a portion of the combined body—and, aside from [[:Image:PteraGeist.jpg|Ptera Geist]], they had the accumulated brain power of a Froot Loop—this ended rather badly. In a more successful (if not [[Mega-Dinobot|also prescient]]) later development, the Geisters learned to merge in groups of two, with Horn Geist forming the upper body of "[[:Image:PtederAndHormor.jpg|Hormor]]" (ホーマー ''Hōmā'').

*Slag's name is also [[Slag (slang)|a popular Cybertronian expletive]]. That just seems right, for some reason. In The Real World, Slag is also a popular expletive in the United Kingdom and some parts of Europe, which has forced [[Hasbro]] to release toys (such as an ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' [[Snarl (Animated)|toy designed with G1 Slag in mind]]) under the name '''Snarl''' in recent years to avoid possible problems with cultural sensitivities. [[Snarl (G1)|The original Snarl]] has yet to comment on the matter.
**It should be noted that G1 Slag's voice actor, Neil Ross was born in the UK.

*A Slag toy can be seen in the recreation of the Scottish artist [[Wikipedia:Eduardo Paolozzi|Sir Eduardo Paolozzi]]'s studio at the Scottish [[Wikipedia:Dean Gallery|Dean Gallery]] This makes him the second [[Grimlock (G1)|Dinobot]] to have a toy in a museum.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Slag''' (スラッグ ''Suraggu'')
*''French:'' '''Scories'''
*''Hungarian:'' '''Salak'''
*''Italian:'' '''Tricex'''
*''Portuguese:'' '''Chapado''' (Brazil comic)

==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/1985/Autobot/Slag/slag.htm Slag at TFU.info]
* [http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Slag Slag's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

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Leaper

2012-07-21T15:12:14Z

Black rhino ranger: /* Trivia */

{{faction|decepticon}}
:''Leapers are Decepticon drones from the [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].
'''Leapers''' are large, [[Decepticon]] brutes that jump around a lot. [[Jazz (WFC)|Jazz]] doesn't like them that much.

== Games ==
[[Image:Leaper foc.jpg|thumb|right|200px]]
{{comingsoon}}
{{storylink|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron}}

==Trivia==
*They slightly resemble [[Lugnut (Animated)|Lugnut]]

[[Category:Fall of Cybertron Decepticons]]
[[Category:Video game-only characters]]

Leaper

2012-07-21T15:12:00Z

Black rhino ranger:

{{faction|decepticon}}
:''Leapers are Decepticon drones from the [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].
'''Leapers''' are large, [[Decepticon]] brutes that jump around a lot. [[Jazz (WFC)|Jazz]] doesn't like them that much.

== Games ==
[[Image:Leaper foc.jpg|thumb|right|200px]]
{{comingsoon}}
{{storylink|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron}}

==Trivia==
*They slightly resemble [[Lugnut (TFA)|Lugnut]]

[[Category:Fall of Cybertron Decepticons]]
[[Category:Video game-only characters]]

Blades (RB)

2012-01-01T04:13:35Z

Black rhino ranger: /* Toys */

{{factions|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Blades}}
:''Blades is an [[Autobot]] from the ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (franchise)|Rescue Bots]]'' portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

[[Image:RescueBotsBlades-charactermodel.jpg|thumb|300px|Function: Autobot Nebbish.]]

With the help of his partner, the eager and daring rescue tech [[Dani Burns]], '''Blades''' the Copter-Bot struggles to overcome the fear of heights his new Earth-gained flying form has revealed. Young and unsure at times, Blades would prefer to be safe and on the ground...but he doesn't let that stop him when others are in danger. Overcoming his own fears to save others is part of what makes Blades a Rescue Bot and a true hero. He also partners with [[Sawyer Storm]].

==Fiction==
===''Rescue Bots'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Parvesh Cheena]] (English)
{{spoiler|Family of Heroes|January 17, 2012}}
Blades was part of a team of Rescue Bots drifting through space when their spaceship received a transmission from [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] and landed on [[Earth]]. After dropping the bombshell that [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] was no more, Optimus assigned the team to [[Griffin Island]] to work with the Burns family. Blades was not keen on the helicopter [[alternate mode]] he was forced to take, as his previous form had wheels and he was afraid of heights. The four Rescue Bots were presented to the public by [[Charlie Burns|Chief Burns]] at a ceremony, following which Blades discovered that his new partner, [[Dani Burns]], could yell really loud when she wanted him to fly faster as they went to the [[Griffin Rock Natural History Museum|museum]] to attend to a fire. That night, [[Cody Burns]] discovered the Rescue Bots' secret, and after they helped stop a rogue robot ''Tyrannosaurus rex'', Chief Burns revealed the truth to the rest of the team. {{storylink|Family of Heroes}}

{{spoiler|Under Pressure|January 17, 2012}}
Dani and Blades continued to have trouble working together, arriving late to an emergency. Cody tried unsuccessfully to get the pair to bond, until there was another emergency when [[Mount Magma]] began threatening the island with lava. Blades and Dani operated the switch to open the volcano's crater as a relief measure, but when they were subsequently caught in an ash cloud, Dani had to cajole a panicking Blades into flying out of it. He managed to earn her respect when he subsequently braved the ash to pick up a water tower and douse the lava with it. {{storylink|Under Pressure}}

==Toys==
===Rescue Bots===
*'''Blades the Copter-Bot''' (2011)
{{charstubtoys}}

==Trivia==
*He's afraid of heights! Now that reminds me of [[Silverbolt (G1)|someone]].

==References==
<references/>

[[Category: Rescue Bots Autobots]]

Blades (RB)

2012-01-01T04:13:25Z

Black rhino ranger: /* Rescue Bots */

{{factions|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Blades}}
:''Blades is an [[Autobot]] from the ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (franchise)|Rescue Bots]]'' portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

[[Image:RescueBotsBlades-charactermodel.jpg|thumb|300px|Function: Autobot Nebbish.]]

With the help of his partner, the eager and daring rescue tech [[Dani Burns]], '''Blades''' the Copter-Bot struggles to overcome the fear of heights his new Earth-gained flying form has revealed. Young and unsure at times, Blades would prefer to be safe and on the ground...but he doesn't let that stop him when others are in danger. Overcoming his own fears to save others is part of what makes Blades a Rescue Bot and a true hero. He also partners with [[Sawyer Storm]].

==Fiction==
===''Rescue Bots'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Parvesh Cheena]] (English)
{{spoiler|Family of Heroes|January 17, 2012}}
Blades was part of a team of Rescue Bots drifting through space when their spaceship received a transmission from [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] and landed on [[Earth]]. After dropping the bombshell that [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] was no more, Optimus assigned the team to [[Griffin Island]] to work with the Burns family. Blades was not keen on the helicopter [[alternate mode]] he was forced to take, as his previous form had wheels and he was afraid of heights. The four Rescue Bots were presented to the public by [[Charlie Burns|Chief Burns]] at a ceremony, following which Blades discovered that his new partner, [[Dani Burns]], could yell really loud when she wanted him to fly faster as they went to the [[Griffin Rock Natural History Museum|museum]] to attend to a fire. That night, [[Cody Burns]] discovered the Rescue Bots' secret, and after they helped stop a rogue robot ''Tyrannosaurus rex'', Chief Burns revealed the truth to the rest of the team. {{storylink|Family of Heroes}}

{{spoiler|Under Pressure|January 17, 2012}}
Dani and Blades continued to have trouble working together, arriving late to an emergency. Cody tried unsuccessfully to get the pair to bond, until there was another emergency when [[Mount Magma]] began threatening the island with lava. Blades and Dani operated the switch to open the volcano's crater as a relief measure, but when they were subsequently caught in an ash cloud, Dani had to cajole a panicking Blades into flying out of it. He managed to earn her respect when he subsequently braved the ash to pick up a water tower and douse the lava with it. {{storylink|Under Pressure}}

==Toys==
===Rescue Bots===
*'''Blades the Copter-Bot''' (2011)
{{charstubtoys}}

===Trivia===
*He's afraid of heights! Now that reminds me of [[Silverbolt (G1)|someone]].

==References==
<references/>

[[Category: Rescue Bots Autobots]]

Talk:Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)

2011-12-19T14:59:26Z

Black rhino ranger:

Wheres Bumblebee in the cast? {{unsigned|Jazzerprime}}
:Has he been confirmed to be in the cartoon? He's not mentioned in D.C. Douglas' post. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:23, 10 December 2011 (EST)
::He has a cartoon character model [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/conventions-15/tfw2005-coverage-of-hasbros-investor-day-2011-173712/] --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 15:10, 11 December 2011 (EST)

==Flash animated?==
*They seem to be animated in Flash. Does anyone agree? [[User:Black rhino ranger|Black rhino ranger]] 09:59, 19 December 2011 (EST)

The Transformers (G1 PS2)

2011-01-07T11:32:54Z

Black rhino ranger: /* Autobots */

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{{disambig3.5|the Japanese PlayStation 2 game|the English PlayStation 2 game|Transformers (PS2)|Transformers}}
{{cleanup|August 2009|Decepticon story section needs general cleanup.}}
{{videogame
|title=''The Transformers''
|image=TF tatakai.jpg
|caption=My CG cinematic sequences are only as good as [[Transformers (PS2)|your]] in-game graphics!
|japanese=トランスフォーマー
|romaji=Transformer
|developer=[[Winkysoft]]
|publisher=[[Atlus]]
|date=[[October 30|30 October]] 2003
|platform=PlayStation 2
|rating=
}}

'''''The Transformers''''' is a Japanese video game for the Sony PlayStation 2 based on the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[The Transformers (cartoon)|''Transformers'' series]]. It was developed by [[Winkysoft]] and published by [[Atlus]] on [[October 30]], 2003. After choosing a side, you can take a squad of three Transformers on action missions, gathering numerous new troops along the way.

Even though all of the dialog in the game is in English with an option to set all of the text in the game to English as well, this game was never released in America. The two most likely reasons are [[Hasbro]]'s lack of involvement with the title, and the game's apparent unanimous panning by critics in Japan.

You know things are messed up when ''[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s'' voice actor pulls off a better [[Peter Cullen]] than the actor who plays [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]].

{{TOCclear}}
==Gameplay==
[[Image:Ps2tatakai gamemechanics.jpg|right|180px|thumb|]]
{{bigquote|The invisible wall seems to have disappeared. Looks like we can't get rid of that wall unless we take care of all of them.|[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]}}

Gameplay consists of punching and kicking your way through canyons, hillsides, and roadways where legions of cloned opponents await you. There is very little in the way of creative gameplay and everything gets very repetitive very fast. The environments are very small and closed in, so don't expect to go roaming around on any wayward adventure. You're there to duke it out with the enemy, and that's it.

==Setting==
[[Image:Ps2tatakai callofthefuture.jpg|right|180px|thumb|]]
The game's story, titled '''''The Transformers: Call of the Future''''', takes its cue from the [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]] continuity, even specifically referring to the events of several episodes, such as "[[Fire on the Mountain]]". It is (presumably) set in 2003, the year it was released, but, via [[time travel]], also features characters from an alternate future which branched off from cartoon continuity in late 2010 (after the events of [[Webworld]]", but before "[[The Return of Optimus Prime]]"). It does not seem to be officially considered part of the [[Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity]], however; it features several anachronistic appearance by characters who are ''not'' time-travelling (the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]], for instance, are shown to be working with their respective factions, when they will not leave their homeworld to do so until 2011), and its events were not included in the painfully comprehensive [[Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)|2007 timeline]].

==Story==
[[Image:Ps2tatakai shockwave2.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Shockwave's reign of terror and destruction!]]
In the year 2010, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]], who has grown disgruntled with Galvatron's abusive leadership, discovers the [[Zel Quartz]] on [[Zel Samine]]. Realizing that it is a power source even greater than the [[Heart of Cybertron]], Shockwave implants the Quartz into himself. He stages a one-robot coup and becomes the leader of the Decepticons...until the surging power load fries his systems and he malfunctions, running amok. He destroys much of both the Autobot and Decepticon armies and eventually destroys [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] itself before setting out to raze many innocent planets.

Unable to stop Shockwave in the present, [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]] allies with the [[Quintesson|Quintessons]] to send an elite cadre back in time to destroy the Quartz before Shockwave discovers it.

In 2003, both the Autobots and Decepticons detect an explosion caused by the arrival of visitors from the future over Zel Samine and send teams to investigate. Both sides lose contact with their teams. The Autobots send another team consisting of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] and [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] to investigate, but their shuttle crashes, and Wheeljack learns that an abnormality in Zel Samine's sun causes electromechanical systems to malfunction and drains them of their power. The Decepticons likewise send [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] and [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] (with [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] arriving later by [[Space Bridge]], a very bumpy ride).

The Space Bridge malfunctions, causing significant damage to the Decepticon ship. The Decepticons lure the Autobots away from their own shuttle in order to steal their supply of [[Energon (fuel)|energon]] and use it to repair their own shuttle. Afterwards, both sides skirmish over a series of local power sources, including the wind-power facility on [[Mount Jaad]], the [[Ranpas geothermal plant]], and the [[Mongan hydroelectric power station]]. Along the way, both sides encounter members of their missing reconnaissance teams.

Both sides also encounter their counterparts from the future: the Autobots Rodimus Prime, [[Kup (G1)|Kup]], and [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]]; and the Decepticons [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]], and [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]]. Galvatron reveals his identity to Megatron, but lies to him about the Zel Quartz, claiming he rules the universe in the future and it is part of an Autobot doomsday weapon that must be destroyed.

Pursuing stories of items that may be the Zel Quartz, both sides clash over the [[Gem of Mystery]] at the [[Lazalt Ruins]], a superhard mineral in a drill bit at [[Karzite mine]], and a giant crystal formation at the [[Atalstan gem mine]]. None of those leads pay off, but the planet's central archive includes reference to a "Zel Stone" which is part of the [[ELTA]] power transmission array, matching descriptions of the Zel Quartz exactly.

Both sides stage a climactic confrontation at ELTA (which is either destroyed or kept intact, depending on the winner) to capture the Quartz. After the battle is done, Starscream, who has overheard Galvatron and Cyclonus discussing the Quartz's true nature, rushes in to steal the Quartz for himself, jetting off into space with it.

Unbeknownst to Starscream, the physical structure of the quartz requires the atmospheric and electromagnetic properties of [[Zel Samine]] to maintain its integrity. Because he has fled into space rather than installing the Quartz on the planet as Shockwave had (and thus protecting it), the Quartz immediately degrades and becomes powerless. Outside of the atmosphere, exposed to the effects of Zel Samine's star without the Quartz's power to protect him, Starscream drifts powerless, left to contemplate his mistakes.

Their own timeline averted, the future Autobots and Decepticons vanish into sparkles of light, and Optimus Prime and Megatron are left to contemplate what they've learned from the experience.

===Autobot Story===
{{stub}}

===Decepticon Story===
Starscream and Soundwave are in the shuttle, which has crash-landed in a cave on Zel. Megatron is absent, as he is on the Space Bridge. There were many instabilities in the route, but they believed it would work. However, when they tried it again, the Space Bridge was broken. Starscream, not wanting to wait for repairs, decides to go where Megatron was supposed to be and find him.

However, when they arrive at his estimated rendezvous point, there is no one there. They are a bit confused, but nevertheless, Starscream decides to pass the time and make himself new leader of the Decepticons. At that very moment, Megatron appears from out of nowhere. He announces that he went off-course, but found that the Autobots were here as well. Megatron then calls Optimus, Wheeljack, and Jazz, and announces that the Decepticons will arrive at their shuttle to destroy them once and for all. However, Wheeljack warns him that they will have to deal with ''him'' first. Starscream is confused as to why Megatron alerted the Autobots to their attack. Megatron just states that the Autobots won't try anything tricky if they fight fairly. He then asks if Starscream would like to become an Autobot, as he believes Starscream doesn't trust him. Starscream refuses, stating he'd "rather die". He also suggests that they pick a team and formation for the attack, and Megatron agrees.

Their initial progress across the planet is hindered by an invisible wall, however. Within its confines, they encounter Ironhide and two other Autobots. After the Autobots are defeated, the invisible wall disappears, and the Decepticons realize the direct causal connection: Defeat Autobots, and the invisible walls go away. Following more skirmishes, they encounter Wheeljack. After a long battle, he loses and withdraws, and the trio continue their route.

However, they see a mine field, possibly made by Wheeljack. They manage to get through it safely, scrap some Autobots and look good all at the same time.

After traveling a great distance, they encounter Optimus Prime. This leads to a long, tough brawl for the Decepticons, but they manage to defeat Prime and the Autobots. Megatron is on the verge of destroying Prime, but the Autobot retreats. Megatron is outraged, but decides to take the energon cubes instead.

Soundwave and Megatron later discuss their views on a U.F.O. Soundwave asks Megatron if he has felt something particularly odd since arriving on the planet. Megatron acknowledges he has, and Soundwave relates the unusual events that have occurred since arriving there. It's almost as if something was trying to cause them problems, so he made a study of the planet. According to his findings, the planet's sun is very dangerous to Transformers. It is constantly beaming electro-magnetic rays which can harm them greatly and cause their energon to evaporate when they are at high altitudes. To complete the repairs on the shuttle, they need to get some energy.

The Decepticons decide to go to the Jaad wind power plant. Starscream believes the mission to be absurd and a waste of time, but Soundwave explains it is not. He also notes the Autobots are already there, but Starscream says this will be no problem: He'll just blast them away. Soundwave, however, shows Starscream how a real subordinate should behave. Starscream eases off for now, believing he'll take care of Megatron soon enough. Soundwave suggests they select a team and formation for the mission.

They head for the power plant. Along the way, they encounter the Autobot Headmaster Brainstorm. Brainstorm retreats after they defeat him and a lot of other Autobots, but once the Decepticons arrive at the main station, they also encounter Hound. They then defeat him and take all the energy. While leaving with it, they encounter the Decepticon Headmaster Snapdragon, part of the exploration team. He joins the team, much to Megatron's enthusiasm. If the player goes through a second time, however, they encounter Weirdwolf, instead.

Soundwave suggests using the energy to repair the shuttle, while Starscream is still thinking about the mission. Megatron is somehow aware of his thoughts, but not their exact content. He notes that Starscream will never catch him sleeping and begins assigning the Decepticons to their next destination—a geothermal power plant. Starscream complains that it's primitive and, because it's underground, he can't fly within the facility. Then, Laserbeak returns and Soundwave reports that the Autobots are taking up defensive positions around the plant. Megatron decided to select the team and stop the idle chit-chat.

When they arrive, Megatron is surprised at the power. Unfortunately, the door up ahead is locked. They have to destroy the Autobots and blast the generator. They finally do so, but after a while, they encounter Grotusque. They defeat him, he retreats, and they move on, after Megatron insults him as ugly. Hey, who can blame him?

The more they continue fighting the Autobots, the closer they get to the main generator. And the closer they get, the more damage they take due to the magma. They finally makee it to the generator, but then encounter the Monsterbot, Doublecross. They defeat him and began to take the energy from the generator. Then, Blitzwing arrives, scoffing at them that it took them too long to get here, and joins the party. If the player is here a second time, they find Skullcruncher, instead.

They manage to draw out all the energon cubes, but are unable to program as much energy as planned. Soundwave apologizes; Megatron tells him that it was Starscream's fault, as he was doing something with the energon cubes, but Starscream denies it. Then, Laserbeak returns and Megatron notices the resemblance between him and Starscream, such as the ability to fly and the colors. He also points out that Laserbeak is very loyal. It was also Laserbeak who informed to Megatron about Starscream's activities. Starscream dismisses this and goes to get the energon cubes and repair the ship for a while. Megatron also warns him that his temper is the shortest in the universe. Megatron thinks to himself that he might have Starscream destroy Optimus Prime.

Their next objective is to go to a hydroelectric power station. Now it's Soundwave's turn to complain. He, knowing that the Autobots have taken defensive positions around the plant, asks for a less well-guarded person for the job. Megatron is dismayed, believing that he's afraid. He orders to send the troops out and never hear anything like this again. He then calls back to the time they arrived on Earth. Starscream remembers this and decides to teach those tin-minnows another lesson. They choose their team and formation.

They have to get through the forest first, though. And the fog is very dense. Nevertheless, they make their way through and, on the way, defeat Highbrow. They finally arrive at the power plant and defeat some Autobots. It takes a long time, but they reach the main power station, where they are stopped by Bumblebee. They easily defeat him and take most of the energy. Then, they find Astrotrain and he joins the team. If the player goes a second time, they will find Mindwipe, instead.

Later, Soundwave admits he was wrong to criticize the plans and Megatron suggests he shut up and listen to him, from now on.

Later, Laserbeak reports that the Autobots have made contact with the UFO. The Decepticons are in trouble now, but Megatron doesn't realize this. They send a team to their rendezvous point to stop them!

Unfortunately, when they arrive, no one is there. Just then, Rodimus Prime appears. Rodimus is surprised, but remembers it was from ''this'' era. Megatron recognizes him as Hot Rod, but then realizes he isn't. Rodimus remembers that he doesn't know him yet and introduces himself, explaining that he is from the future. He warns that if he destroys all the Autobots in this era, he won't be parting on friendly terms. He defeats him and asked some questions. But at that moment, a figure which looks like Megatron in a few ways appears and blasted Rodimus. It is revealed to be Galvatron. He notices the face resemblance. Galvatron is about to explain, but Rodimus escapes. Galvatron and Megatron are furious, as Megatron needed information. Galvatron knows it was the UFO. He asks him to take him and his companions to the Decepticon Headquarters and then, they can talk.

{{note|The boss is different during the second attempt. Instead, the player faces an army of Megatron clones, made by Wheeljack. After the battle, Wheeljack retreats and drops a capsule. The future Decepticons rejoins the player and Soundwave explains that the capsule contains a message from the Quintessons, which explains why they were here. Then, Dark Hot Rod appears and joins the team.}}

Later, they are talking about the events of the future. He lies about most of it, but revealed that Galvatron is really Megatron's future self. Starscream is very surprised, but Megatron can feel that he's right. Before Galvatron continues, he says to send Shockwave outside, if he's here. Then, they continue.

Meanwhile, at the Autobot Shuttle, Rodimus and his crew are talking of the events of the future. It was revealed that Shockwave, Megatron's faithful servant, turns traitor. He examines Galvatron and his changes in personality very carefully and becomes a one-robot mutiny, as Galvatron started to lose his authority. Rodimus tells Optimus about the story of Shockwave and an item known as Zel Quartz.

''Shockwave discovered that a being born on Cybertron would gain an extra power boost if the Quartz was installed in their body. So, he pulls a "Starscream Move" and makes himself leader of the Decepticons. However, his circuits could not stand the extra power loads and it malfunctioned. He ran amok and was unstoppable! Even the Autobots and Decepticons tried to stop him, but most of them were killed and Cybertron, along with other planets, were destroyed. He would not stop until all the planets were bathed in fire. So the elite of the survivors sought help from the Quintessons. They provided them a shuttle with a TransWarp signature, where they planned on keeping Shockwave from ever finding the Quartz and defeat him, once and for all!''

Unfortunately, a disruption in space-time occurred, as a result, and the forces were scattered. They have been unable to contact their comrades. The Autobots have to destroy the Quartz before the Decepticons do. When Optimus asks where it was.....well, that's the problem.

They don't know. It is called Zel Quartz in the future, but the name in this era is unknown. They tell them that it's material for an Autobot Doomsday Weapon. The Decepticons have to get the Quartz before they do. Galvatron agrees and decidedsto keep quiet about Shockwave and the Quartz's real power for a while, or it will be harder to get the Quartz for himself when the time is right.

Later, Cyclonus coordinates with Soundwave's information and determines three possible locations and tells Galvatron of this. He decides to search them one by one. Cyclonus wonders why they just go through the trouble of finding the Quartz. Galvatron tells him that if the truth was told, Megatron would try to take the Quartz for himself and might be able to defeat Unicron, thus erasing Galvatron, Scourge, and Cyclonus from existence. With that, they leave to tell Megatron of the possible locations. Unfortunately, Starscream overheard the entire conversation. As he suspected, the future Decepticons are up to no good. However, he decides to keep it a secret, as he will get the Quartz for himself!

The first location is the Lazalt Ruins. Starscream suspects that looters probably stole it years ago, even if it was here. However, Cyclonus notes that they were recently discovered. The structures are thought to be built by intelligent life forms from another planet (not unlike the [[Vok]] in Beast Wars and Transformers Animated). There are also rumors that local archaeologists unearthed an unknown crystal known as the "Gem of Mystery". It is a high possibility that it is the Zel Quartz. Confirmation of what Cyclonus says are recent human research. Megatron saw it very familiar to items found in the [[Andes Mountains]] in South America. It would not surprise him if such a thing also exists here. The Autobots, however, anticipated them and posted guards. Galvatron suggests a good team, but Megatron notes that this is ''his'' era and Galvatron will not give orders. They have a little argument about the team selection until Soundwave and Cyclonus are selected.

==Characters==
Below is a list of some of the characters that appear in the game:

===Playable Autobots===
[[Image:Doublecross mb.jpg|right|220px|thumb|Doublecross as seen in the Video game.]]
{{collist|3|
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]
*[[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]]
*[[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]
*[[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]]
*[[Hound (G1)|Hound]]
*[[Highbrow (G1)|Highbrow]]
*[[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]]
*[[Kup (G1)|Kup]]
*[[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]]
*[[Springer (G1)|Springer]]
*[[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]]
*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]
*[[Brainstorm]]
*[[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]]
*[[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]
*[[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]]
*[[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]]
*[[Grotusque]]
*[[Doublecross]]}}

===Playable Decepticons===
[[Image:Ps2tatakai full-tilt.jpg|right|154px|thumb|I failed to transform in the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|TV show]]]]
{{collist|3|
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]
*[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]
*[[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]
*[[Snapdragon (G1)|Snapdragon]]
*[[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]
*[[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]]
*[[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]
*[[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]]
*[[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]]
*[[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticon]]
*[[Octane]]
*[[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]
*[[Weirdwolf]]
*[[Skullcruncher]]
*[[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]]
*[[Dark Hot Rod]]
*[[Apeface]]
*[[Sixshot]]
*[[Full-Tilt]]}}

{{note|Not all the characters are unlocked when you beat a storyline for the first time; they will only go up to Ultra Magnus and Shockwave. This encourages the player to go back and try again to get the rest. There are also some changes made to the story after beating it the first time.}}

===Non-player characters===
====Autobots====
* [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]
* [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]]
* [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]]
* [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]]
* [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]
* [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]]
* [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]]
* [[Raiden]]
* [[Computron (G1)|Computron]]
* [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]]
* [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]]
* [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]

====Decepticons====
{{collist|3|
*[[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]]
*[[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]]
*[[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]
*[[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]]
*[[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]]
*[[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnell]] {{sic}}
*[[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]
*[[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]]
*[[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]]
*[[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]]
*[[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]]
*[[Long Haul (G1)|Long Haul]]
*[[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]]
*[[Predaking]]
*[[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]]
*[[Divebomb (G1)|Divebomb]]
*[[Headstrong]]
*[[Abominus (G1)|Abominus]]
*[[Hun-Gurrr]]
*[[Rippersnapper (G1)|Rippersnapper]]
*[[Cutthroat (G1)|Cutthroat]]
*[[Slugslinger (G1)|Slugslinger]]
*[[Triggerhappy]]
*[[Misfire|Missfire]] {{sic}}
*[[Soundwave (G1)|Soundblaster]]
*[[Wingspan]]
*[[Pounce]]
*[[Battletrap]]
*[[Flywheels]]
}}

==Notes==
* Those who pre-ordered this game received a special "Matrix Disc" DVD containing all the Japanese [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] toy [[commercial]]s up to [[The Headmasters (franchise)|Headmasters]].

==External links==
*[http://www.atlus.co.jp/cs/game/takara/gameinfo/charactor/transformer.html ''The Transformers'' game page at Atlus.co.jp]
*[http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=Sesq0 Gameplay videos on YouTube]
*Video game site [http://ign.com ''IGN''] did a [http://ps2.ign.com/articles/520/520165p1.html humorous comparison] between the Atlus-developed Generation 1 game and the later [[Melbourne House]]-developed [[Transformers (PS2)|''Armada'' game]] as a "battle between Japan and Australia". Australia won.
* [http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/917923/27448 GameFAQs' overview of the game]

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Dead End (WFC)

2011-01-07T11:29:15Z

Black rhino ranger:

{{faction|decepticon}}
{{disambig3|Dead End}}
:''Dead End is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron]] portion of the [[Transformers: Prime]] [[continuity family]].''
[[Image:WFCDeadEnd.jpg|250px|thumb|Four down, one to go.]]
'''Dead End''' is probably one morbid Decepticon.

== Games ==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (360/PS3/PC)===
{{note|The chasis for Dead End, the Tracker [[Scout (WFC)|Scout]], was made available as a part of DLC #2 on [[September 7]], 2010. In addition, he can be played as himself in Escalation mode.}}

==Trivia==
*Four out of five Stunticons appear in different versions of WFC. Motormaster and Dragstrip only appear in the DS version and Dead End only appears in the DLC console versions of WFC. Breakdown appears in all consoles however.
*In Multiplayer, you can't make Dead End look like his original color scheme due to restrictions of Autobot and Decepticon coloring.

[[Category:Prime Decepticons]]
[[Category:Video game-only characters]]

Brawl (WFC)

2011-01-07T11:22:25Z

Black rhino ranger: /* Notes */

{{faction|decepticon}}
{{disambig3|Brawl}}
:''Brawl is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron|War for Cybertron]] portion of the [[Transformers: Prime]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:WFC Brawl.jpg|thumb|300px|I carry around these twin cannons on my back ... and my default weapon is an assault rifle. Sigh.]]

'''Brawl''' ''loves'' explosions. He ''loves'' to kill them [[Autobot|Auto-brats]], too. Really, if it involves massive amounts of violence, chances are he'll ''love'' it.

{{bigquote|Real Decepticons roll on treads.|Brawl on car alt-modes.|[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron]] }}

==Games==

===''Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)''===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Nolan North]]

During the final days of the war, Brawl served aboard a Decepticon starship under [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]], who was seeking the [[Dark Energon]] guarded by the neutral Sky Commander [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]]. He was part of the bridge crew, along with [[Barricade (Prime)|Barricade]] as Megatron laid siege to the orbiting station where Starscream hid the supply of Dark Energon. After Megatron gained entry to the station (by ramming his starship into it, no less), Brawl and Barricade then helped Megatron fight his way into the station, past Starscream's soldiers. Starscream's constant taunting irritated Brawl, to the point he requested permission to rip off Starscream's head. He even said please. The Decepticons eventually reached the supply of Dark Energon and prevented Starscream from destroying it, and as his reward, Brawl was infused with the corrupted Energon's power by Megatron.

Later, during the Decepticon assault on the Autobot capital of Iacon, Brawl had the honour of commanding and spearheading the ground attack while Starscream (his head sadly still attached) commanded the aerial forces and Megatron personally led a small strikeforce into the heart of the city. Megatron's team eventually reunited with Brawl and his forces outside the Iacon Vaults, where Autobot leader [[Sentinel Zeta Prime]] had taken refuge. Despite being heavily out-numbered (and being dogpiled by numerous Autobots), Brawl held out until Megatron, [[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]] and [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] arrived to assist. Brawl complained about Starscream's refusal to give his ground troops air support, but Megatron wasn't interested in excuses.

When even Megatron's Dark Energon powers failed to open the massive doors to the Vaults, the enraged Decepticon ordered a bombing run. Brawl attempted to protest, since the Autobots' anti-aircraft defenses were still active, but Megatron would not be convinced. After the bombing attempt failed miserably, Brawl tactfully suggested they first take the anti-aircraft guns in order to guarantee success. Megatron noted this was 'an excellent suggestion' and commanded him to see to it.

The Decepticons successfully disabled the anti-aircraft guns and Brawl once again called down a bombing run, only to be bluntly refused by Starscream. Taking issue with Starscream referring to the bombers as 'his ships', Megatron cut in and ensured the bombing run would take place. However, Brawl and his comrades now had to hold off a massive Autobot counterattack until the bombers arrived. Despite fighting and killing numerous Autobots (including several Heavy Soldiers and Aerialbots), it seemed as though the Decepticons would be overwhelmed by nothing less than the entire Autobot army. Brawl, keeping track of the bombers' progress, started counting down the last few seconds verbally, and the Decepticons watched as the Autobots realized their doom, too late to retreat to safety. Megatron ordered Brawl to hold his position while he led his team to 'discuss' matters with Zeta Prime.

Brawl followed his orders to hold his ground to the letter. In fact, while Megatron, Breakdown and Soundwave were being attacked by [[Destroyer (WFC)|a huge Autobot]], Brawl watched, no doubt confident that his master would be victorious.

He probably wasn't too happy when Starscream claimed leadership when Megatron was apparently killed by a [[Omega Supreme (Prime)|huge heavily-armed ship]]. That was fixed soon enough, though.

Brawl then journeyed with Megatron and the rest of the Decepticons to Cybertron's core, watching as Megatron corrupted the core and cowered from falling debris.{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)}}

===''Transformers: War for Cybertron - Decepticon (DS)''===
Brawl, Megatron, and Dirge captured an Autobot training facility during the waning days of the Great War. He later accompanied Megatron during the capture of Trypticon Space Station - a station which could manufacture Dark Energon. After a field test, the Dark Energon enhanced the Decepticons' stamina and strength. However, the Decepticons had to journey to Cybertron's core to get the fuel to make more Dark Energon. Brawl helped in an all-out assault on Iacon City to find the Omega Key, the key to Cybertron's core - but upon taking it from Zeta Prime, it activated the titanic Autobot Omega Supreme, who quickly decimated the Decepticons. Brawl followed his leader, and defeated Omega Supreme, gaining total supremacy over Cybertron.

Later, the Autobots, with their new leader Optimus Prime, came to the Core to flush out the Dark Energon. Brawl had been lying in wait for such an attack, and unleashed his full power upon them. But the Autobots defeated Brawl, and the Decepticon retreated.

==Notes==
*Despite his [[Brawl (G1)|Generation 1 counterpart]] being nothing more than a battle-hungry bundle of rage and his [[Brawl (Movie)|live-action movie counterpart]] being a heavily-armed, battle-hungry bundle of rage (both being shock-troops to be unleashed on the enemy), this Brawl is intelligent enough to act as overall ground commander. He even makes a calm, well-thought out suggestion during the Iacon battle, advising Megatron to disable the anti-aircraft guns.

*While his tank mode, colouring and lust for battle are Brawl, his intelligence, strategic outlook and command ability are more in line with the Combaticon commander [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]]. The twin barrels on his back also harken back to his old boss, as the original Brawl only had one barrel.

*As he is not mentioned in ''[[Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron|Exodus]]'' it is unknown if he combines with [[Onslaught (Prime)|Onslaught]] to form [[Bruticus Maximus (Prime)|Bruticus Maximus]].

*Onslaught and Brawl are the only Combaticons ever to appear in WFC.

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Onslaught (WFC)

2011-01-07T11:21:28Z

Black rhino ranger: /* Notes */

{{factions|decepticon}}
{{disambig3|Onslaught}}
:''Onslaught is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers: Prime]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:WFC_Onslaught_bot.jpg|thumb|300px|Status as roaring and/or a dudicus: unconfirmed.]]

'''Onslaught''' is a Decepticon formerly from the [[Combaticon (Prime)|Combaticon]] caste. Submitting himself to [[Shockwave (Prime)|Shockwave]]'s [[combiner]] experiments, he became the core of the dangerously unstable gestalt form known as [[Bruticus Maximus (Prime)|Bruticus Maximus]].

==Fiction==
===''Exodus: The History of the War for Cybertron''===
Onslaught was put into [[stasis lock]] under [[Crystal City]] with the rest of Bruticus Maximus when Shockwave's combination experiment proved unsuccessful. After [[Devastator (Prime)|Devastator]] destroyed Crystal City, Bruticus was revived and sent to [[Kalis]]. But the Autobots won, with [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]], [[Jazz (Prime)|Jazz]] and [[Sideswipe (Prime)|Sideswipe]] taking down the giant. Sideswipe boasted he tore off Bruticus's head, which was formed by Onslaught. {{storylink|Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===

{{Note|Onslaught is a downloadable content character<ref name="WFC DLC listing">[http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/07/first-transformers-war-for-cybertron-dlc-contains-all-three-preorder-characters/ First Transformers: War For Cybertron DLC Contains All Three Preorder Characters, Kotaku.com, July 3 2010]</ref>, made available by downloading the ''Transformers: War for Cybertron Map and Character Pack''. He is not playable in the ''War for Cybertron'' storyline campaign.}}

{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}
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===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (DS)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Brad Davidorf]]
[[Image:WFC_Onslaught_vehicle.jpg|thumb|250px|Noticeably lacking in fandom shout-outs.]]

{{Note|Onslaught is an unlockable character for the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|Nintendo DS version]] of ''War for Cybertron'' (Decepticon version), unlocked by finding a disc in the mission "Reactivating the Energon Bridge" (requires a Heavy class character). Like the other unlockable characters, he can replace any of the other Decepticons in the campaign mode.}}

Onslaught defended the [[Dark Energon]] injection machines. Wielding a large hammer, he introduced himself to his foes with a simple, "Get ready for an ONSLAUGHT!"

{{charstubfiction}}
{{Storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

==Notes==

* At one point ''Exodus'' calls Onslaught a Constructicon, but this seems likely to be an error as the Combaticon name is used later.

* Onslaught is usable in both the Autobot and Decepticon versions of the ''War for Cybertron'' games for the DS. Used only for multiplayer, bonus missions and Arena mode in the Autobot version and used in Multiplayer, Arena mode, and campaign in the Decepticon version.

*Onslaught and Brawl are the only Combaticons ever to appear in WFC.

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Combaticons]]
[[Category:Fiction-only Transformers]]
[[Category:Prime Decepticons]]

Doctor Doom

2010-12-14T14:25:35Z

Black rhino ranger: /* Crossovers */

:''Doctor Doom is a [[human]] from the [[Generation 1]] continuity family.''

[[Image:Doom.jpg|right|180px|thumb|RICHAAARRDS!]]

'''Doctor Doom''' is the ruler of [[Latveria]]. He wears a suit of metal, and likes to make [[Doombot|robots]]. One would think this implied that he is a sensible human, but he's evil. Go figure.

==Fiction==
===IDW comics continuity===
Doctor Doom discovered a dome-like structure had appeared in his country of Latveria. He tried, but failed, to remove it with an army of [[Doombot]]s.

While the [[Avengers]] attacked the [[Autobot]]s, Doom took matters into his hands and broke [[Wolverine (superhero)|Wolverine]]'s [[Decepticon]]-induced rage. Afterward, Doom explained his efforts to remove the Decepticon structure with his Doombots; he doesn't particularly like the prospect of Latveria destroyed by mere machines. The Decepticons stole Doom's [[Psycho-Prism]], which allowed them to drive humans into a furious rage. Finding the Avengers and Autobots useless, Doom left, apparently to broker peace with [[Symkaria]]. {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part Two}}

Doom allied himself with the Decepticons, willing to rule the devastated planet the Decepticons would leave behind. When the heroes failed to surrender despite the ultimatum from Doom and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], Megatron took out his frustration on Doom by shocking him into unconsciousness. {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part Three}}

Turns out Doom didn't care for the alliance, and showed this by shocking [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]]. Afterward, he pretty much just lolled around and insulted everybody, both before and after leading Wolverine to destroy the Psycho-Prism. {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part Four}}

===''Crossovers''===
When [[Mister Fantastic]] and [[Iron Man]] started constructing giant transforming battlesuits for himself and other superheroes, Doctor Doom responded by creating his own ones for [[Venom (Crossovers)|Venom]] and [[Carnage]].<ref>Packaging bios for ''Crossovers'' Venom and Carnage toys</ref>

==Trivia==
* Doctor Doom is voiced by [[Charlie Adler]] in [[Wikipedia: The Super Hero Squad Show|A chibi Marvel cartoon]].

==External links==
* [[wikia:marveldatabase:Victor_von_Doom_(Earth-616)|Doctor Doom at Marvel Database]]
* [[wikipedia:Doctor_Doom|Doctor Doom at Wikipedia]]

==References==
<references/>

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Iron Man

2010-12-14T14:24:18Z

Black rhino ranger: /* Notes */

{{disambig2|the cool exec with a heart of steel|the Autobot buried under England|Man of Iron}}
:''Iron Man is a [[human]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]] and the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] portion of the [[Crossovers]] franchise.''

[[Image:Ironman.jpg|right|250px|thumb|[[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] realizes pushing Iron Man down a flight of stairs requires a flight of stairs.]]
'''Iron Man''', aka '''Anthony Edward Stark''', appears to be the most sensible member of his species. While a normal, squishy human would be content to walk around vulnerable to attack, he has taken the surprisingly logical step of encasing himself in a metal suit carrying advanced weapons like a ''proper'' being.

He is not [[G.B. Blackrock]].

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 comics===
For some time, Iron Man had been investigating rumors of [[Transformer|giant alien robots]] secretly living among humans, and constructed a giant armored suit just in case. His suspicions were confirmed during the [[Decepticon]] attack on [[Latveria]], and he took his giant suit to join the other Avengers who were investigating the situation. On the way, he was contacted by [[Captain America]] to make sure that [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]'s [[Psycho-Prism]]-repressing devices were safe for humans. Iron Man arrived in Latveria just in time to join the Avengers and their new [[Autobot]] allies in the fight against several super-powered Decepticons. {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part Two}} While the giant suit was effective in the face of the alien robots, it proved quite the energy guzzler, nearly expending all its reserves during the battle. The Autobots helped Iron Man out by offering their own energy, supercharging his armor to dangerous levels. {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part Three}}

When [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], leader of the Decepticons, arrived on the scene, Iron Man challenged him personally... and was quickly dispatched. Overloaded with energy, his anti-Transformer suit was finished off when Megatron severed its head with his [[fusion cannon]]. Fortunately, Iron Man himself was controlling the mech from inside its chest, and came out unharmed to continue the battle using his regular suit. Eventually, the Decepticons were vanquished and the situation in Latveria was resolved. As Iron Man returned home aboard the [[Quinjet]], he was already making plans for an even ''larger'' suit... {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part Four}}

===Marvel ''Crossovers'' toy bios===
Working with [[Mister Fantastic]], Iron Man used alien technology to build transforming [[Mech|battle suits]] for the most marketable of [[Earth]]'s [[:Category:Superheroes|heroes]]. Being a control freak, the one he built for himself has an override system allowing him to take control of the rest.<ref>Iron Man's ''Crossovers'' toy bio</ref>

Later, Iron Man painted his battle suit black in order to disguise it as a regular fighter jet and lull his enemy, [[Doctor Doom]], into a false sense of security.<ref>Black Iron Man's ''Crossovers'' toy bio</ref> At some point, he built himself a new suit, along with one for [[Spider-Man]]. These two mechs had the ability to combine with each other.<ref>Spider-Man/Iron Man's ''Crossovers'' toy bio</ref> After realizing that there are times when speed on the ground is more useful than flying, he constructed ''another'' mech, this time shaped like a sports car. It's just as fast as the jets, though.<ref>Sports car Iron Man's ''Crossovers'' toy bio</ref>

==Toys==
===Crossovers===
[[Image:Crossovers IronMan toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Unfortunately, no booze bottle accessory.]]
*'''Iron Man''' (Marvel, 2008/2009)
**''Accessories:'' Two missiles
: The Marvel ''[[Crossovers]]'' Iron Man transforms into a fighter jet of madeup-make, bearing more than a passing resemblance to an [[Popular Earth vehicle alternate modes|F-22 Raptor]] with a [[For safety reasons|stubby nose cone]] and large/stretched wings, under-slung with non-firing missiles. Each wing is also equipped with a spring-loaded missile launcher, which can be mounted on the undersides of his robot-mode forearms.
: This mold was later redecoed in gray and black. Note that the toy pictures on the packaging have a different color scheme than the actual toy.
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[[Image:MarvelCrossoversWarmachine.JPG|thumb|right|250px|Surprise! I'm the same guy.]]
*'''Iron Man''' (Marvel, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' Two missiles

:A black and gray redeco of the previous Iron Man toy resembling Iron Man Armor Model 11 or [[War Machine]].

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[[Image:Crossovers-toy_IronManCombiner.jpg|right|250px|thumb|When the "Iron Spider" costume wasn't enough.]]
*'''Spider-Man / Iron-Man''' (Marvel two-pack, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' Two missiles
:This Iron Man toy transforms into a "flying wing" style stealth bomber with two firing missiles under its wings. He comes packaged with [[Spider-Man]] (who transforms into a helicopter), and can combine with him in either mode to form a "giant super bomber" or a robot mode that mostly just looks like Spider-Man wearing an Iron Man plane hat.

:This mold was also used to make [[War Machine]] in the "Iron Man 2 Concept Series" (see below).
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[[Image:Crossovers-toy_IronManCar.jpg|thumb|right|250px|]]
*'''Iron Man''' (Marvel, 2010)
:Iron Man transforms into a sports car. He features two flip-down non-firing blasters in his shoulders.

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[[Image:Crossovers-toy_IronMan_ConceptSeries_jet.jpg|thumb|right|250px|]]
*'''Iron Man''' (Marvel, 2010)
**''Accessories:'' Two missiles

:To tie in with the release of ''[[wikipedia:Iron_Man_2|Iron Man 2]]'', this entire ''Crossovers'' assortment is part of the "Iron Man 2 Concept Series", featuring Iron Man and War Machine toys. One of these is a redeco of the original jet mold with the gray parts replaced by more red and yellow. The entire assortment was exclusive to [[Walmart]] stores.

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[[Image:Crossovers-toy_IronMan_ConceptSeries_car.jpg|thumb|right|250px|]]
*'''Iron Man''' (Marvel, 2010)

:Another toy in the Concept Series, this one is a slight redeco of the Iron Man sports car mold. Changes include darker red and gray plastic and paint for his rear lights.

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[[Image:Crossovers-toy_IronMan_ConceptSeries_Humvee.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Seeing red yet?]]
*'''Iron Man''' (Marvel, 2010)
**''Accessories:'' Gun

:The only new (well, new for Iron Man) mold in the Concept Series is a retool of the ''Crossovers'' [[Captain America]] toy, transforming into a Humvee. He has a newly molded head and is armed with a large gun that mounts on his roof in vehicle mode. This gun and its attachment point were originally designed for the canceled [[Punisher]] toy.

{{-}}
*'''Iron Man / War Machine''' (Marvel two-pack, 2010)
:Iron Man (Lightcycle) and [[War Machine]] (SWAT vehicle) combine into a Super Bomber.
{{comingsoontoy}}
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==Notes==
[[Image:Crossovers-toy_IronMan_unused_deco.jpg|thumb|200px|Early stock photo of the redeco Iron Man.]]

* Reprints of Iron Man stories were run as a back-up strip in early issues of the Marvel UK Transformers comics. Further reprints featuring the present day Iron Man appeared in issues #126-129 and #146-152. The Iron Man of 2020 also appeared in a crossover with [[Spider-Man]] reprinted in issues #119-125.
*Early stock photos gave the original Iron Man toy's redeco a different color scheme, one that resembled [[wikia:c:marvel:Iron Man Armor MK I|Iron Man Armor Model 01]] and featured silverish gold in place of the black parts.
* Iron Man is voiced by [[David Kaye]] in the cartoon ''[[wikipedia:Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes|Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes]]'' as a guest character. Voice acting is a small world, [[Megatron (BW)|yeesss]].
* Iron Man is voiced by [[Tom Kenny]] in [[Wikipedia: The Super Hero Squad Show|A chibi Marvel cartoon]].

==References==
<references />

==External links==
* [[wikia:c:Marveldatabase:Anthony Stark (Earth-616)|Iron Man at Marvel Database]]
* [[wikipedia:Iron Man|Iron Man at Wikipedia]]

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Charlie Adler

2010-12-14T14:22:32Z

Black rhino ranger: /* Revenge of the Fallen: The Game */

{{disambig3|Charles}}

[[Image:Charlieadler.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Most guarded secret: Is indeed related to Babs Bunny.]]
'''Charlie Adler''' (born [[February 27]], [[1957]]), sometimes '''Charles''', is an American voice actor. Outside of ''Transformers'', he is known for voicing ''Tiny Toon Adventures''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s Buster Bunny, [[G.I. Joe (team)|''G.I. Joe''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s]] Low Light, ''G.I. Joe Resolute''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s [[Cobra Commander]], [[Flint (G.I. Joe)|Flint]], [[Stalker (G.I. Joe)|Stalker]] and [[Gung-Ho]], ''SWAT Kats''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s T-Bone and the entire cast of ''Cow and Chicken'' (and as such is the King--and Queen--of Cheese).

==Voice roles==
===Generation 1 cartoon===
* [[Dirk Manus]]
* [[Duros]]
* [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]
* [[Triggerhappy]]
* [[Vorath]]
* [[Pre-Transformer (character)]] (Ep 69 Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4)

===''Transformers'' 2007 film===
* [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]

===''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen''===
* Starscream

===''Revenge of the Fallen'': The Game===
* Starscream
* [[Starscream (G1)|''Generation One'' Starscream]]
* [[Sunstorm (G1)|''Generation One'' Sunstorm]]
{{note|Adler's portrayals of Starscream in the film versus the video game versions of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' are vastly different. While in the film Starscream's voice is neurotic and whiny, the video game voice is dark and sinister, magnified greatly by some ''crazy'' heavy electronic amplification that pushes Adler's voice to the point of being virtually unrecognizable. To draw a more direct comparison, his voice in the game sounds more like the movie version of [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] than [[Frank Welker]] does! Strangely enough, they seem to have kept his "normal" Starscream voice for phrases spoken by the G1 incarnation of the character during multiplayer.}}

==Trivia==
*Both [[Tom Kenny]] and Charlie Adler were the 2 voices of Starscream and they both voiced characters in [[Revenge of the Fallen (film)]]. Both were also known for voicing [[Iron Man]] and [[Doctor Doom]] in [[Wikipedia: The Super Hero Squad Show|A chibi Marvel cartoon]].

==External links==
* [http://www.mkbmemorial.com/adler/home.html Official Charlie Adler site]
* [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0012121/ Charles Adler on IMDB]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Adler_(voice_actor) Charles Adler on Wikipedia]

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Tom Kenny

2010-12-14T14:21:13Z

Black rhino ranger: /* Notes */

[[Image:TomKennyArrrr1.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Who lives in the ''Nemesis'' up on the moon? "StarBob SquareScream!"]]
'''Thomas James Kenny''' (born [[July 13]], [[1962]]) is an American voice actor, actor and stand-up comedian. From the stand-up side, he is known for his Comedy Central special as well as his prominent role on ''Mr. Show''.

On the voice-acting side, he is best recognized as the eponymous character from ''Spongebob Squarepants'', The Penguin from ''The Batman'', The Amazing Mumbo from ''Teen Titans'', Gibson from ''Super Robot Monkey Team Hyper Force Go'', Jake from ''My Gym Partner is a Monkey'', Raimundo from ''Xiaolin Showdown'', Heifer Wolfe from ''Rocko's Modern Life'', the mayor and narrator from the ''Powerpuff Girls'', and... jeez, just about everything that's been on [[Cartoon Network]] in the past five years.

As an on-camera actor, he has played Patchy The Pirate on segments of ''Spongebob Squarepants'', and very early on in his career, he played the villainous Binky The Clown in Bobcat Goldthwait's cult comedy ''Shakes The Clown''.

==Voice roles==
===''Transformers Animated''===
{{collist|3|
* [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]]
* [[Isaac Sumdac]]
* [[Tutor Bot]]
* [[Burger Bot]] ([[Transform and Roll Out]])
* [[Security Bot]] ([[Nanosec (episode)|Nanosec]])
* [[Guard Bot]] (Nanosec)
* [[Scrapper (Animated)|Scrapper]]
* [[Wasp|Wasp / Waspinator]]
* [[Skywarp (Animated)|Skywarp]]
* [[Clone number 3370318]]
* [[Sunstorm (Animated)|Sunstorm]]
* [[Clone number 2716057]]
* [[Thundercracker (Animated)|Thundercracker]]
* [[Ramjet (Animated)|Ramjet]]
* [[Jetfire (Animated)|Jetfire]]
* [[Rattletrap]]
* [[Beachcomber (Animated)| Beachcomber]] (cut for time)
}}
====Incidentals====
* Commercial Announcer ([[Total Meltdown]])
* Scientist #2 ([[Lost and Found (episode)|Lost and Found]])
* Truck Driver ([[Garbage In, Garbage Out]])
* Car Driver (Garbage In, Garbage Out)
* Policeman (Garbage In, Garbage Out)

===Revenge of the Fallen===
*[[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]]
*[[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]]

==Notes==
* "SpongeBob" is in [[wikipedia:Big_Brother_(Nineteen_Eighty-Four)|Microsoft Office]]'s spell-check lexicon, yet "Starscream" is not. Discuss.
* [[Bill Fagerbakke]], who voices Spongebob's best friend Patrick Star in ''Spongebob Squarepants'' (as well as being Kenny's real-life best friend), also voices [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] in the [[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Transformers Animated]] continuity. Also, Transformers Animated was aired the the UK exclusively for Nicktoons which Spongebob Squarepants was also shown on. Small, hilarious-sounding world.
*Both Tom Kenny and [[Charlie Adler]] were the 2 voices of Starscream and they both voiced characters in [[Revenge of the Fallen (film)]]. Both were also known for voicing [[Iron Man]] and [[Doctor Doom]] in [[Wikipedia: The Super Hero Squad Show|A chibi Marvel cartoon]].

==External links==
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0444786/ Tom Kenny at IMDB]

{{DEFAULTSORT:Kenny, Tom}}
[[Category:English voice actors]]

Talk:Cyclonus's Armada (G1)

2010-12-14T14:03:05Z

Black rhino ranger: /* Target: 2006 */

Um... "The Sweeps" are in bold, too, and we're looking at at least two or three more, uh, Cycloni being formed behind Cyclonus, so how is the IDW comic adaptation implying that "Armada" is a singular character, exactly?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 00:15, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

: [[Media:Idwwhoiscyclonus.jpg|I do not see two or three other Cycloni in this image.]] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:19, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

::Oh, so I'm supposed to be reading that as guys-being-turned-into-Cycloni instead of dead Bombshell and a couple of forming Cycloni? Not... exactly... the clearest thing ever unless you've already seen the movie. --[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 00:33, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

:::Yeah, there's Cyclonus, there's another Cyclonus, and then there are two Cyclonus-shaped wireframes. I suppose they could suddenly become Sweeps instead at the last second, but... --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 00:37, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
::::It's not the clearest storytelling in the world (by which I mean it's Don art), but those Cyclonus-shaped wireframes are the intermediate forms between Bombshell/Skywarp and Cyclonus/Armada, not individual guys themselves. -[[User:LV|LV]] 01:30, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't know how relevant this is, but in Five Faces Of Darkness, most notably in part 5, there are PLENTY of Cycloni appearing as the Decepticons attack Cybertron, and during their retreat at the end of the episode. [[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:30, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't have the Marvel comic adation of TF:TM handy, is the Armada mentioned/seen there? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:45, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

:They're created in the last page of the first issue and the first page of the second, in which we see countless robots being created out of the surface of Unicron's planet mode. We learn about Scourge and his Sweeps, Cyclonus (who is Galvatron's ship), and later we hear about the two and "their subordinates." (SPECIAL TRIVIA: A conehead is seen among the Decepticons thrown out.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:21, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

::Bah. Someone else can do that. ;). (I find it surprising how frequently I lament not having my TF:TM digitized for quick reference...) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:22, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
:There's also another problem with Five Faces of Darkness. Among the Decepticons Wheelie is running from while carrying the [[transformation cog]], he heads straight for a group of Decepticons which is also composed of Insecticons...including [[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]] in the middle. I'd chalk that up to an amination error, but when has anyone ever accepted that? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 01:03, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
::Extra insecticons is something I never really fretted, considering.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 01:06, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

==El Wreckooni==
I'm wondering if it'd be okay to go ahead and note that Wreckers Finale flat-out says who became who (at least, as far as Wreckers is concerned) ''now'' rather than waiting for the month to be up, and in a month putting in the relevant quote, since it's kinda spoilery for a plot point. I dunno. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:58, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:Whatever it turns out to be, wouldn't it be a similar situation to the Madman/Metrodome DVD profile, being your own interpretation pushed as canon? No offense intended but if the DVD profiles can be so easily ignored, in the interest of objectivity so can your take on it. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:18, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:::That's why Sipher says "at least, as far as Wreckers is concerned." He's saying that what Wreckers says ultimately doesn't have an influence on the original movie, just that Wreckers presents one possible answer. (Though, really, I'd suggest the original movie already answered that question, and the only reason there's even a debate in the first place is because a few people didn't like the answer presented.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:01, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
::I kinda think that an officially published story has priority over obscure DVD profiles. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 17:33, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:::The obscure DVDs and their extra content were still official. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:40, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

== Maybe it's just me... ==

I seem to recall a time when this article wasn't an incoherent collection of disconnected facts. -00:49, 13 July 2009 (EDT)

== Army-building note ==

Should we have a note like this in the article?
{{note|While there have been no toys of the Armada released, anyone interested in [[army-building|assembling an Armada]] is not without options! As the Armada are physically identical to Cyclonus, an enterprising fan can purchase multiples of Cyclonus's original 1986 toy, or his [[Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]] figure, and make pretend.}}
[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:59, 1 February 2010 (EST)

== Target: 2006 ==

I like to think that because Skywarp was killed in Target: 2006 by Galvatron, it caused Cyclonus' Armada to never have existed when Galvatron returned to his own time since Skywarp was no longer around to become Cyclonus' Armada. Is there any merit to this? [[Special:Contributions/95.148.10.91|95.148.10.91]] 18:08, 20 June 2010 (EDT)

==It's not "S'S" It's "S'"==
It's not called Cyclonu'''s's''', It's Cyclonu'''s''''. Check your spelling right. [[User:Black rhino ranger|Black rhino ranger]] 09:03, 14 December 2010 (EST)

User talk:Black rhino ranger

2008-04-17T13:52:32Z

Black rhino ranger: /* Behave yourself */

No fanart, please. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:44, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

:Sorry about that. [[User:Black rhino ranger|Black rhino ranger]] 12:51, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

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== Animated Trivia/Errors ==

Please check to make sure someone else hasn't already included these things in the article. Also please check to see if it's really an "error."--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 17:59, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
:There is one thing I saw on TF Animated, when Optimus finds energon cubes, Blackarachnia's head can be seen on a floor. [[User:Black rhino ranger|Black rhino ranger]] 17:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
::And we've noted that this is not an animation error, and has instead been included ''already'' in the trivia section. It's not her head, it's a helmet.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 17:23, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay, never mind. [[User:Black rhino ranger|Black rhino ranger]] 17:39, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

==Headstrong==

Kindly knock it off with the "horny" thing. It's a line from a song, making a joke about the fact that Headstrong has horns. If you were to try to remove every instance of words that some people consider "bad" from this wiki, you'd have a ''long'' job ahead of you. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 13:28, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I'll knock it off but still it is a rude word. [[User:Black rhino ranger|Black rhino ranger]] 13:50, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

== Again, Correct English is Required ==

Please, proofread your contributions more thoroughly. If you continue to make edits full of grammatical errors, we will continue to undo them. [[User:JW|JW]] 15:23, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

== Behave yourself ==

These are things we frown on:
* Poor grammar.
* Not listening to people who have been here longer than you.
* Not making useful, substantial contributions.
* Repeatedly making changes that have been repeatedly reverted.
* Trying to censor us.
* Trying to get rid of the humor.
* ''Really'' poor grammar. 
If you continue to do these things, there are likely to be consequences. Please, behave yourself. [[User:JW|JW]] 13:40, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
:JW's just beaten me to lecturing you. You may now consider yourself officially warned - if you continue to ignore what you've been told, and ''especially'' if you continue to try and "censor" silly little things that you prudish mind considers "bad," you ''will'' get a banning. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 13:43, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

The Funnyness must stop, There will be compliments, IT HAS TO STOP RIGHT NOW OR ELSE. [[User:Black rhino ranger|Black rhino ranger]] 13:52, 17 April 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"> From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</div>

Talk:Sonar (BW)

2008-04-17T13:31:32Z

Black rhino ranger: /* Sonar is a he */ new section

The "she" part comes from the Wreckers comic, right? --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 20:19, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
: And, we've been told, the upcoming IDW profile books. The original tech spec bio gave no gendered pronoun. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:55, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

== Sonar is a he ==

Wikipedia mention Sonar is a he. [[User:Black rhino ranger|Black rhino ranger]] 13:31, 17 April 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"> From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</div>

Grimlock (G1)

2008-04-17T13:28:40Z

Black rhino ranger: Dude, Spike is a guy, Never mention that to any male okay

{{picsneeded|fictional appearances in comics and such}}{{disambig3|Grimlock}}

:''Me Grimlock am [[Autobot]] [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]] in [[Generation 1]] and [[Maximal]] in [[Beast Wars]] portion of the Generation 1 [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Grimlockg1.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Me Grimlock draw self-portrait.]]

Some Autobots wonder why '''Grimlock''' is even on their side. His disposition is much more suited to the [[Decepticons]]. After all, he values power and strength over wisdom and compassion, and furthermore, he doesn't really get along with most Autobots. When faced with a problem, his usual responses are to slice it with his [[energo-sword]], tear it to pieces with his bare hands, or outright eat it. He is more willing to accept casualties than most of the Autobot leadership, and doesn't seem particularly concerned about the [[Human|fleshie]]s either. These things, coupled with his dislike of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], have led to a defection or two on Grimlock's part. He'd have no problem offing the [[Prime (rank)|Autobot leader]] if he thought he could get away with it, though.

What the Autobots don't realize is that the only thing he hates more than weakness is those who abuse their strength, meaning when push comes to shove, Grimlock will always fall in on the right side of the fence. And despite their disagreements, Grimlock holds a respect for Prime's strength and leadership.

Grimlock is the leader of the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]]s, a small but powerful strike squad. Grimlock himself is extremely strong and durable, and is one of the few Transformers who can not only stand toe-to-toe with Optimus Prime and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], but actually give them a run for their money. Despite his strength and prowess, Grimlock continually struggles with his pronouns.

{{quote|Me Grimlock not nice dino. Me bash brains!|Grimlock on himself|''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''}}

{{note|Grimlock's intelligence level in the cartoon was substantially lower than in most of his other portrayals. See the entries below for details.}}

:''Preliminary names:'' '''Tyrannobot''' / '''Trapjaw''' / '''Jawbreaker''' / '''Tyrex'''
:''French-Canadian name'': '''La Menace'''
:''Chinese name:'' '''Gang-suo''' ("Steel lock")
:''Italian name:'' '''Tiran'''
:''Hungarian name:'' '''Mogorva''' — '''Grimlock''' in one of The Movie dubs.

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
{{note|The comic Dinobots had average, functional intellects. Grimlock affected a caveman-esque speech pattern to mask his intelligence<ref>Grimlock possesses a brilliant mind but considers intellectuals weak. He chooses to talk dumb rather than be thought of as weak. ''Marvel UK #200 "Secrets of the Transformers" booklet.''</ref>, leaving his fellow Autobots to think he has a glitch in his speech processor. The other Dinobots speak normally.}}
{{noteukonly}}

While the Autobots remained dormant inside [[Mount St. Hilary]], the ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'' detected Cybertronian life. Dispatching a probe, the ''Ark'' learned that [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] had come to Earth and was wandering the [[Savage Land]]. The ''Ark'' used data gathered from the Savage Land to convert five of the dormant Autobots into the Dinobots. They traveled to fight Shockwave, but all combatants became trapped in a tar pit. {{storylink|The Last Stand}} The Dinobots were later freed by [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] and joined the Autobots from time to time, but they were usually seen wandering on their own under Grimlock's orders. ''At one point, the Dinobots had reverted to their base instincts due to their primary cybo-dendrons having burnt out (from all that time in the tar pit), so the Autobots had to go round up them.'' {{storylink|Dinobot Hunt!}} ''Decepticon interference led to Grimlock having a good old rumble with [[Sludge (G1)| Sludge]] that destroyed the town of Doonstown and left several Autobots badly injured. After being repaired by Ratchet, Grimlock dreamt of defeating Megatron'' {{storylink|Victory!}} ''before waking up and hitting the road for some adventures with the Dinobots and [[Joy Meadows]].'' {{storylink|In the National Interest}}

Grimlock was a powerful and arrogant warrior who believed he knew best. He ascended to the post of overall Autobot leader on several occasions, growing in the process and eventually, despite their original conflict, becoming Optimus' hand-picked lieutenant and likely successor. Early on, [[Blaster]] was a major thorn in his side, deserting his command. Later, he tended to fight with the straight-laced, logical [[Prowl]].
[[Image:Biggrim_me_king.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Me Grimlock no bozo, me king!]]
One of the many casualties in an [[Underbase]]-powered [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream's]] rampage, Grimlock was brought back on-line by [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] using [[Pretender]] technology stolen from Megatron. {{storylink|All the Familiar Faces!}} While Grimlock, along with [[Jazz]] and [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]], handily defeated Megatron's minions, he was unable to save Ratchet when Megatron's base exploded. {{storylink|Skin Deep}}

Afterward, Grimlock, Jazz and Bumblebee briefly joined the Autobot resistance movement on Cybertron before attempting to return to Earth via [[Trans-Time Dimensional Portal|trans-time dimensional portal]]. However, [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]], seeking to crush the resistance's momentum, sent ''the latest incarnation of'' the [[Mayhem Attack Squad]] to destroy the three Autobot Pretenders. Infiltrating [[Autobase]], the three Decepticons sabotaged the portal, teleporting all six Transformers (and the [[Micromaster]] [[Rescue Patrol]]) deep into the heart of Cybertron, where the Autobots discovered the resting place of their god, [[Primus]]. {{storylink|Yesterday's Heroes!}}

Grimlock at first thought it was all a Decepticon trick and was [[Atechnogenesis|skeptical]] that the Transformers even had a god. When the [[Keeper]] appeared, Grimlock demanded the ancient Transformer "prove it" by telling them the story of the Transformers' origin. The Keeper's story (complete with holographic slide-show) was suitably convincing, but unfortunately gave the Mayhem Attack Squad time to sneak up on the Autobots, and another battle ensued. The outnumbered Decepticons were no match for Grimlock and company, but [[Octopunch]]'s last-ditch shot ricocheted off the Dinobot's back, waking Primus. A few seconds too late, the Autobots in Autobase repaired the portal, sending the lost Transformers to Earth. Grimlock immediately demanded they find the Earth-based Autobots to warn them of [[Unicron]]. {{storylink|Primal Scream}}

After rejoining Optimus Prime's forces, Grimlock, Jazz and Bumblebee formed a team in the search for the lost [[Matrix of Leadership|Creation Matrix]]. Traveling to [[VsQs]], where Optimus Prime's funeral barge had crashed, the three began to search an abandoned science station for any clue as to the Matrix's whereabouts. While Bumblebee searched the computer logs, Grimlock went looking for the science team—only to discover they had all been killed. Before the Autobots could formulate a plan, Thunderwing attacked. Grimlock's first reaction was to attack, but not even all three of them could defeat the Decepticon leader. Instead, they were "saved" by the [[Matrix Spawn]], which became Thunderwing's new target. The three Autobots searched the wrecked station independently and recovered the Matrix. Low on [[energon]], the three attempted to return to their shuttle, but the moon's heavy gravity slowed them down, allowing Thunderwing to overtake them, defeat the three weakened Autobots and claim the Matrix for his own. {{storylink|Dark Creation}}

After Thunderwing's defeat, the Autobots sent a shuttle to VsQs to rescue Grimlock and the others, who were low on energon and on the verge of [[stasis lock]]. Grimlock was none too grateful for his rescue, instead berating himself for failing to destroy Thunderwing and guilty that he was alive while the other Dinobots were still deactivated. However, without Ratchet or the Matrix, the Autobots knew of no way to bring back their fallen. Grimlock sought Optimus' permission to travel to [[Hydrus Four]] and investigate the rumors of the substance [[Nucleon]]. When Optimus refused, Grimlock stole a shuttle and the bodies of the Dinobots and went anyway, which everyone really should have seen coming. {{storylink|Eye of the Storm!}}

Once on Hydrus Four, Grimlock sought out the medi-center on the island of Farooth, where the well of Nucleon was kept. Along the way, he encountered the substance's three guardians, zombie-like mechanoids who attempted to bar visitors from tapping the Nucleon. Two engaged him in combat, but Grimlock dispatched them easily. Unlike destroying Decepticons, he could take no pleasure in his victories, which seemed pointless. He began to question his motives: Was he really trying to save the Dinobots, or just prove himself a better leader than Prime? By the time he reached the island of Farooth, Grimlock simply wanted the grim business done with.

At the well, Grimlock encountered the final guardian. The Hydrusian didn't want to fight, but instead warned him that Nucleon always came with unexpected side effects. To quell the doubts that had plagued him since his arrival, Grimlock decided to test the Nucleon on himself, plunging a hand into the well. Feeling a surge of power and no immediate side effects, Grimlock decided it had to be safe and went to work reviving the other Dinobots, ignoring the Hydrusian's parting words, "Time will tell." {{storylink|The Price of Life!}}

With the Dinobots revived, Grimlock loaded up as much Nucleon as he could and returned to the ''Ark.'' {{storylink|...All This and Civil War 2}} The Dinobots found it empty, as Primus had teleported the Earth-bound Transformers back to Cybertron. Electing not to waste time looking for the others, Grimlock ordered [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]] to set course for Cybertron while Sludge and [[Slag (G1)|Slag]] pumped the Nucleon into the ''Ark''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s life-support pods. The Dinobots were unaware that the life-support pods also held Megatron, as Grimlock had departed before Ratchet's rescue. {{storylink|The Void!}}

Grimlock was the first Transformer to begin feeling the Nucleon's effects. Before he even left Hydrus Four, he began suffering erratic joint locks. He tried to hide the symptoms as long as he could, but after Unicron's defeat, they began to worsen, until his entire body seized up during a battle. [[Hi-Q]] came to his rescue, recognizing that the Nucleon was still transforming Grimlock's body. Hi-Q accelerated the process, as the Nucleon granted Grimlock a new, more powerful body, but at the cost of [[Action Master|his ability to transform]]. {{storylink|Still Life!}}

Optimus Prime died from injuries sustained in the war, and named Grimlock his chosen successor (although Grimlock still had to put up with Dumb Prowl as his self-appointed advisor and conscience). While Prowl began naive negotiations with the Decepticons for continued peace, Grimlock had his Dinobots arrange precautionary measures against any treachery. {{storylink|Exodus!}} Sure enough, the new Decepticon leader [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] sabotaged the Autobot ships on Cybertron and took off to loot and plunder with his army. Thanks to Grimlock, though, the Autobots not only had a set of ships held in reserve, but the Dinobots had also placed tracking devices on the Decepticon shuttles, leading the Autobot pursuit force right to the planet [[Klo]]. {{storylink|A Savage Circle}}

Unfortunately, Grimlock's knack for forward-thinking ran a little short here, and he led his Dinobots into a trap as soon as the troops arrived on Klo. It seemed the Decepticons had discovered Grimlock's tracking device and anticipated their arrival. One massacre later and the only Autobots left alive were Grimlock, Prowl, Slag, Kup and Blaster. Despite their misfortunes, they managed to overcome the Decepticon hunting party sent after them, and carried the battle back to Bludgeon and his men. Luckily, a miracle arrived in the form of a resurrected Optimus Prime and his new friend, the awesomely powerful [[Last Autobot]], who began spontaneously reviving all the Autobots who fell in battle with the Decepticons. Facing an ever growing number of fully recharged Autobots, Bludgeon fled with his remaining Decepticons, and Grimlock and the Autobots stood victorious. {{storylink|End of the Road! (Marvel US comic)|End of the Road!}}

=====Marvel UK future timelines=====

''Following their adventures on [[Quintessa]] and the war with Unicron {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}}, Grimlock and the Dinobots were stationed on Cybertron during the Autobot war effort to consolidate control over the planet. In 2008, the Decepticons staged a brazen and unprovoked attack on the Autobot location, prompting an incredible battle. Grimlock led the charge of his Dinobots, and literally began to "munch metal". When [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] returned to Cybertron from the planet [[Junk]] with information, however, Grimlock exited the battle to attend a war room meeting with [[Rodimus Prime]], Kup and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]. They learned from Smokescreen that Unicron had survived their last encounter, and his head had been drawn to Junk, where he then took over the minds of the [[Junkion]]s and began forcing them to rebuild his lost body out of their planet. Realizing that the Decepticons were just pawns being used by Unicron to distract them, the Autobots realized the true battle awaited them on Junk. Rodimus Prime questioned whether he could pull enough troops away from the battle at hand to be of any use on Junk, but Grimlock reminded Roddy who he was talking to, and assured that his Dinobots would be more than enough firepower. Rodimus agreed, and brought Grimlock, [[Scattershot]], Smokescreen and the rest of the Dinobots with him to confront Unicron. While Scattershot and Smokescreen distracted Unicron in the shuttle, Grimlock brought the Dinobots down to the planet and stopped the mind-warped Junkions from making any further repairs on Unicron's body. {{storylink|The Legacy of Unicron!}}''

''Later, Grimlock was part of Rodimus Prime's crew who came to Earth to free Autobot City from Quintesson occupation. {{storylink|Space Pirates!}}''

{{Note|The following three sections all split off from the end of the Generation 1 comic, but in three different, irreconcilable directions.}}

====''Another Time and Place''====

In the months that followed the war on Klo, as more and more Autobots began to succumb to the Nucleon's effects and lose their ability to transform, Grimlock's guilt over his actions grew. When he heard the medical facilities on Hydrus-Four had reopened and discovered a means of reversing Nucleon's effect, he jumped at the chance. Taking his fellow Dinobots back there, Grimlock and his comrades ran smack into a Decepticon trap. Bludgeon and his crew had followed the Dinobots to Hydrus-Four and cut in ahead of them, taking control of the med-facility and installing a [[Holocaust Trigger]] device, which totally overwhelmed the Dinobots' equilibrium as they entered, knocking them out. Grimlock awoke hours later to find Bludgeon's sickly-skullhead grinning at him, as the Master of Metallikato planned to use the Nucleon to revitalize his warriors and bring the Great Megatron himself back to life. Luckily, Optimus Prime and Prowl arrived with a rescue party in time to stop the maccabb resurrection ceremony from being completed. Bludgeon was destroyed, and Prime and Grimlock personally ripped apart the half-reanimated Megatron. Normally, [[Furmanism|it never ends]], but this time it truly did. {{storylink|Another Time and Place}}

====Generation 2====
After the coming of the [[Last Autobot]], much of the Autobot army scattered. Grimlock took command of a small commando team, leading strikes against [[Cybertronian|Decepticon outposts]] across the galaxy. After encountering seventeen conquered worlds, cyberformed into "little Cybertrons", Grimlock realized the problem was greater than he had originally imagined and contacted Optimus Prime. After comparing notes in an abandoned base, the Autobots were captured by [[Jhiaxus]]. While Optimus began to despair after learning Jhiaxus' origins, Grimlock refused to give up, bolstering the Autobot leader's spirits as they led an escape from [[Twilight|Jhiaxus' flagship]]. {{storylink|War Without End!}}

Despite his loyalty to Autobot ways, Grimlock still chafed under Optimus' leadership. Disobeying his orders (which somehow still surprised Optimus), Grimlock led a raiding party against Jhiaxus, seeking to destroy the ''Twilight''. Unfortunately, the Dinobot failed to anticipate Jhiaxus' increased security measures, and the mission cost [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]] and [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] their lives. Their deaths forced Grimlock to question his methods and his attitude toward Optimus Prime. He admitted that he envied Prime for the loyalty he inspired in the Autobots, and that this, not the leadership of the Autobots, was what he'd truly desired. Thus, no one was more surprised than Grimlock when Optimus Prime placed the Dinobot in command while he traveled back to Cybertron. {{storylink|Devices and Desires!}}

Grimlock's command status proved invaluable when Optimus met Megatron on Earth alone, intending to form an alliance against Jhiaxus. Megatron beat Optimus half to death, and Prime only lived because Grimlock disobeyed orders and led an Autobot brigade to Earth. {{storylink|The Gathering Darkness}} When Megatron finally agreed to the alliance, Grimlock showed a great dislike for having to work with him, as well as the insults Megatron threw his way. {{storylink|Escalation!}}

[[Image:Biggrim.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Me Grimlock work hard!]]
Eventually, the Empire attacked Autobase on Earth, with Grimlock gunning down scores of its troops. The alliance between Autobots and Decepticons gave Grimlock a chance to work alongside two new Rotor Force members, Leadfoot and Manta Ray, both of whom were impressed with Grimlock's style. {{storylink|Total War}} With the Empire came the Swarm, and with both Optimus and Megatron out of contact, it fell to Grimlock and the Predacon [[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]] to organise the Transformers in a desperate defensive action. They utilized a combination of shield generators, sky snipers, thermal mines...basically anything they could throw at the Swarm. His plans allowed the Autobots to hold out just long enough — barring a few casualties, like his comrade Slag — for Megatron to arrive with the [[Rheanimum]] that ensured their survival. During this operation, Manta Ray deliberately ignored Razorclaw's orders in favor of Grimlock's and, when the Predacon attempted to execute him for treason, Leadfoot cut Razorclaw in two, securing them as new recruits for the Autobots.

In the end, Optimus Prime united with the Swarm and cleansed it of its dark impulses. The Swarm was dispersed, and Grimlock celebrated a victory with his united forces.{{storylink|A Rage in Heaven!}}

''In the convention-exclusive story "[[Alignment]]", which ties up plot threads from ''Generation 2'', Grimlock sacrifices himself in the final battle against the [[Liege Maximo]]. (Despite being written by Simon Furman, this story was not approved by Hasbro and was produced for an unofficial convention, so the canonicity of this all is debatable.)''

====Fun Publications ''Classics'' comics====
[[Image:Classics_Ultramagnus_Springer_Grimlock_comic.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Me Grimlock like to make self look smart by hanging around bots who no hold binoculars correctly.]]

He liked to call [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] "Little Prime". {{Storylink|Games of Deception}}

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===American cartoon continuity===
:''Voice Actor:'' [[Gregg Berger]] (US), [[Takurō Kitagawa]] (Japan), [[Edgar Fruitier]] (French Canadian)

''(Note: In the animated series, Grimlock was more dimwitted than in most other continuities. As the series progressed, he was portrayed increasingly as a comic relief character.)''

[[Image:Grimlockskywarp.jpg|right|thumb|Mmm, taste like chicken!]]

Cartoon Grimlock, like all the cartoon Dinobots, has a stereotypical "caveman"-type personality and intellect level. They originally decide to help the Autobots, for instance, because "them have face like this on chest...". Pre-movie, this lack of intelligence is usually coupled together with their great power to make them dangerous wild cards. Post-movie, however, Grimlock and the Dinobots are generally played as just plain dumb for comic relief.

When mysterious tremors shook the [[Ark|Autobot base]], [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]'s investigation revealed strange objects behind a rock wall. After removing the wall, the Autobots found a cave full of dinosaur bones. The Autobots decided the idea of dinosaurs was interesting and researched the prehistoric beasts. Wheeljack and [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] asked Optimus Prime if they could build robot dinosaurs, and Prime agreed this was a good idea, only God knows why. Grimlock, [[Slag (G1)|Slag]], and [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]] were built and unveiled to the Autobots, but the Dinobots were dimwitted and violent, and they attacked their makers, Frankenstein's monster style. Grimlock blasted [[Teletraan I]] with his fire-breath, damaging it. Optimus Prime decreed that the Dinobots "must be destroyed." However, Wheeljack convinced him instead to lock them away, and the trio were herded back into the cave and buried alive.

Later, the Decepticons took over a hydroelectric plant, and when the Autobots arrived to stop them, the Autobots were defeated and captured. Wheeljack, Ratchet, and [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]], left behind at Autobot base to finish repairing Teletraan-I, decided to go against Optimus' orders and release the Dinobots, but not before upgrading their brains to be smarter and more obedient. After the Dinobots were reactivated, Wheeljack asked them to save their friends. Grimlock said he would obey...this time. They successfully attacked the Decepticons and freed the imprisoned Autobots. Optimus forgave Wheeljack, Ratchet, and Bumblebee for disobeying his orders and welcomed the victorious Dinobots back to the Autobots. {{storylink|S.O.S. Dinobots}}

After a meteor surging with unknown energies struck the Earth, Optimus ordered the three Dinobots to guard it. He was so pleased with the Dinobots he asked Ratchet and Wheeljack to build two more. Meanwhile, Megatron was frustrated at the Dinobots' success and sent [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] to probe them for potential weaknesses. Reading the Dinobots' minds, he discovered that Grimlock was arrogant and believed he would make a better leader than the weak Optimus Prime. Megatron decided to use this to his advantage and approached them himself. He played to Grimlock's jealousy and agreed with him that the strongest should be leader. The Dinobots declared Optimus Prime their enemy.

[[Image:Grimlockapologize.jpg|left|thumb|After he stop shaking hand, me Grimlock going to eat him!]]

Realizing the meteorite was due to explode, Optimus left to warn the Dinobots, but they attacked him. Instead of destroying him completely, however, Grimlock carried him to the Decepticons, who had stolen the meteorite during the battle. Megatron was angry that Optimus Prime was not destroyed, and Starscream suggested that despite Grimlock's arrogance, inside he was still compassionate (or as compassionate as Grimlock could get). Grimlock didn't take this well and blasted Starscream right in the chest. They were interrupted by the two new Dinobots, [[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]] and [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]], whom Megatron ordered the original three Dinobots to attack. At the climax of the battle, the meteorite exploded, but Optimus Prime pushed Grimlock out of the way, saving him. Grimlock realized the error of his ways, and the Dinobots forced the Decepticons into retreat. Grimlock then apologized for his jealousy. {{storylink|War of the Dinobots}}

The Decepticons joined forces with [[Sub-Atlantica]] and staged a full-scale attack on [[Washington, D.C.]]. The Autobots were overwhelmed, forcing Wheeljack to call for the Dinobots' assistance. Grimlock expressed his frustration at being called whenever the Autobots were in over their heads. With their help, the Autobots were able to overturn the Decepticons' advance and plunge the now-burning city of Sub-Atlantica back into the sea. {{storylink|Atlantis, Arise!}} This pattern of the Autobots' dependence on the Dinobots repeated when the artificial intelligence [[TORQ III]], put under Decepticon control, turned all machines against Mankind. With every piece of help he and his troops gave, Grimlock was never slow to add a scathing remark about the inabilities of the Autobots. {{storylink|Day of the Machines}} That said, he was not unwilling to admit the failings of his own troops, either. He willingly took them to the time-displaced "Dinobot Island," where they trained in the wilderness {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 1}} and helped stop a Decepticon raid on the prehistoric paradise, with Grimlock inspiring the native [[dinosaur]]s to help them fight the Decepticons. {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 2}}

[[Image:Grimlock01.JPG|right|thumb|200px|Grimlock forces spike to leave]]

The final straw for Grimlock came when he and the Dinobots were injured in a Decepticon trap at an airfield. Enraged, Grimlock refused to take orders from Optimus Prime any more and led the Dinobots away from the ''Ark''. When the Autobots began to suffer from Cybertonium deficiency, [[Spike Witwicky]] and his girlfriend [[Carly]] attempted to persuade the Dinobots—who continued to function perfectly, as they had been built on Earth without Cybertonium—to steal some of the mineral from a Decepticon shipment coming in from Cybertron. Although Grimlock was willing to let the Autobots die and decided to crush the humans, he recognized the Cybertron connection to the Cybertonium. Instead of securing the element, Grimlock opted to lead the Dinobots to Cybertron itself, where they were captured by [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. {{storylink|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 1}}. He altered the Dinobots' [[Circuits|memory circuits]] and put them to work in the Cybertonium mines, where they remained until Spike and Carly repaired them. Grimlock and Spike faked having an argument, compelling the guards to lower the energy fences to remove the troublesome humans—only to be obliterated by the Dinobots. Grimlock led the group back to Earth, where the Dinobots agreed to follow Prime's orders again—until such time as Grimlock didn't feel like it. {{storylink|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 2}}

[[Image:Grimlock.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Me Grimlock mad that name "[[T-Wrecks]]" already taken. (Maybe by me Grimlock.)]]

In the year 2005, Grimlock and the other Dinobots were stationed on the Autobots' Moonbase 1, seemingly overseeing weapons production. When word arrived from Earth that Autobot City was suffering a massive Decepticon attack, they traveled to Earth with Optimus Prime and were dispatched by the Autobot leader to take on [[Devastator]]. Though they attacked fearlessly, the giant combiner robot was too much for them, shrugging off their attacks and overwhelming them in short order.

After fleeing [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]'s attack on [[Autobot City]], the Dinobots, along with [[Kup]] and [[Hot Rod]], crashed on [[Quintessa]], and were separated from the two Autobots. During their search, the Dinobots met [[Wheelie]]. Grimlock initially didn't like the rhyming little robot, but soon grew quite fond of him, letting him ride on his back. Eventually, the Dinobots managed to locate where Kup and Hot Rod were being held by the planet's rulers, the [[Quintessons]]. The Dinobots entered the Quintessons' execution room with all the grace they could muster, and Grimlock immediately declared his desire to munch metal. After the Dinobots saved Hot Rod and Kup from the [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticon]]s, a Quintesson judge ordered the Sharkticons to execute the Dinobots. Grimlock stomped his foot on the ground and ordered the Sharkticons to execute the Quintessons. They complied with the Dinobot's order. Heading for [[Junkion (planet)|the planet of Junk]], Grimlock watched the Autobots and the [[Junkion]]s celebrate their new friendship. The party was ended when a Junkion [[kiss]]ed Grimlock, causing him to reassert his status as "king". Later, Grimlock made one of his life's greatest accomplishments by literally kicking the butt of [[Unicron|a deity]], only to realize shortly afterwards that he needs a new strategy. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie (1986)|TFTM}}

[[Image:GrimlockManga.jpg|right|200px|thumb|If he REALLY smart, he know how stupid he look.]]

By the Earth year 2005, it seemed apparent that Grimlock had undergone some degree of a personality change, becoming more childish and petulant, rather than brutish and stubborn. Throughout 2006, he regularly participated in missions with his fellow Autobots rather than the other Dinobots, battling on the planets of [[Chaar]], [[Goo]], [[Dredd]] and [[Eurythma]]. He and [[Daniel Witwicky]] were transported to the other-dimensional realm of [[Menonia]], where Grimlock was duped into fighting on the side of the tyrannical Quintesson [[Mara-Al-Utha]] {{storylink|Madman's Paradise}}, and later, he helped to sniff out the "[[dinosaur transform static]]" that implicated [[Trypticon]] in the theft of world monuments {{storylink|Thief in the Night}}. Later in the year, when Decepticon leader [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] had Cybertron infused with function-inverting anti-electrons, a dose of the particles gave Grimlock super-intelligence. During a mission to [[Unicron]]'s disembodied head, where the Autobots were outmatched by the new Decepticon [[Terrorcon (G1)|Terrorcons]], Grimlock used components of Unicron's head to construct the [[Technobot|Technobots]] to battle them. Even combined as Computron, the Technobots felt they could not match the Terrorcons, until Grimlock transferred his super-intelligence into Computron, reverting to his old self and allowing the Technobots to claim victory. {{storylink|Grimlock's New Brain}}

Grimlock's greatest victory came when he and a large number of other Transformers with animal transformations were summoned to a world at the center of the galaxy by the ex-assistant of the ancient genius, [[Primacron]], creator of Unicron. The assistant had assembled these "[[Primitive]]" Transformers in the hope that their simple instincts could defeat Primacron's newest creation, [[Tornedron]], but one by one they fell to him, with Grimlock apparently crushed under [[Trypticon]]. Grimlock survived, however, and followed Tornedron back to Primacron's lab. When Tornedron turned on his master, like his predecessor had, Primacron's complicated plans and equations could not find a way to stop him. Grimlock, on the other hand, randomly flicked a switch which reversed Tornedron's energy polarity, undoing the damage he had done and dissipating the creature. Dancing around over his successful saving of the universe, Grimlock decimated Primacron's lab, which he decided was the smartest thing he'd ever done. {{storylink|Call of the Primitives}}

====Season 5====
Grimlock piloted the shuttle bringing [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] to an important meeting<ref>The meeting was with [[Tommy Kennedy]] and its importance was debatable, but Prime was upset at being late.</ref> and took a wrong turn, making Prime very late. Prime subsequently took him to have his brain circuits upgraded.<ref>From the "Season 5" framing sequence for the retelling of TF:TM, part 4.</ref>

===Japanese cartoon continuity===
====''The Headmasters''====

In the year 2011, the Decepticons invaded Cybertron in full force. Grimlock was deployed by [[Wreck-Gar]] to fend off the invaders. He was seen fighting alongside his fellow Dinobots as well as the [[Throttlebot]]s against the invading Decepticons. However, they didn't fare too well against the Decepticon [[Headmaster]]s, as they were all quickly put to sleep by [[Mindwipe]]'s hypnosis attack.

===Transformers PD-Type===
[[Star Saber (G1)|Star Saber]] recruited Grimlock as backup for a duel with [[Deathsaurus (G1)|Deathsaurus]]. Grimlock became bored watching the two of them fight in the sky, but when Star Saber finally succeeded in knocking Deathsaurus to the ground, Grimlock ate his head while Star Saber looked on, pleased at the outcome of his clever plan.<ref>From the [[Transformer_PD_Type|TF-PD type]] comic [http://www.tfarchive.com/comics/japanese/superdeformed.php?dgallery_show=deformed/SDComicTrans06.jpg Me Strongest! Me Grimlock]</ref>

===''Binaltech''===
After the Dinobots were defeated and deactivated on [[Earth]] by a strange alien virus, Grimlock was rebuilt using [[Binaltech]] technology to save his life. He hates his new Ford Mustang form. No teeth to munch metal, ya see.

===Dreamwave comics continuity===
{{quote|Me Grimlock—badass!!|Grimlock on himself|[[The War Within issue 5|''The War Within'' #5]]}}

[[Image:ScrollDinobots.jpg|left|200px|thumb|"Give me Grimlock purse!"]]

Years ago, before the war, Grimlock was part of a cage-fighting arena. He and [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] fought beside and against each other on numerous occasions. Starscream believed Grimlock was a natural born killer, but Grimlock really just carried a lot of rage and needed an outlet.

When the war began, Grimlock sided with the Decepticons. Then, after a while, he switched sides and went to the Autobots. Nobody is quite sure why or what happened. He eventually became leader of a squad including [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]], Kup, and Wheeljack.

By the time [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]] was killed and a new leader had to be chosen, the Autobots were losing the war, and Grimlock was growing impatient with the [[Council of Ancients]] strategy. Grimlock called a secret meeting with Prowl, Jazz, and his running crew: If the new [[Prime (rank)|Prime]] wasn't up to doing what had to be done, then they'd do it for him—and take the Prime out in the process.

Optimus Prime, having defeated a team of Decepticons by himself, still didn't settle Grimlock's nerves. Prime's decision to evacuate Cybertron did it; Grimlock had enough. He left and went to brood by himself.

Starscream and his Seekers dropped by while Grimlock was alone. Starscream baited Grimlock, telling him he was a Decepticon inside and was just in denial. He gave him a choice: Go to Sector Zero-Six and help the Seekers take out the Autobot command post, or warn the post about their arrival.

Grimlock, out of spite, instead evacuated the Autobots from the base and planted a bomb with a message: "Me not like Optimus Prime or Autobots that much...but me like you and yours even less!"

While he was on his way back to Iacon to help with the defense, Prowl ordered him away, instead telling him to go find Optimus Prime. Grimlock decided that it was a good opportunity to give the new Prime a piece of his mind.

While he and the team went deep into Cybertron's core to find Prime, they found out about Megatron's plan to win the war and turn Cybertron into a mobile battle station with which to conquer the universe. Grimlock split up his team: He would go find Optimus Prime, and the rest of the team would shut down the transformation system for Cybertron.

To his surprise, Prime abruptly was standing next to him. Prime ordered Grimlock to help him find Megatron. Grimlock shoved his [[energo-sword]] into Prime's hands and gave clear instructions: If Megatron is the problem, then fix it.

When the crisis was over, Grimlock no longer questioned Optimus Prime. He knew that Prime had figured things out, and though he hadn't executed Megatron, he wasn't going to spend his time in the war running away. {{storylink|The War Within}}

During the Dark Ages, Optimus Prime and Megatron were seemingly destroyed in a [[space bridge]] explosion, and Grimlock broke off from the Autobots lead by Prowl and formed the [[Lightning Strike Coalition]]. Grimlock was targeted, along with [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]], [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] and [[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]], by the [[Fallen]], who wished to use their apparently unique [[Spark]]s to help in his revival of [[Primus]], which would allow Unicron to locate him. The Fallen sent [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]], [[Mindwipe]] and [[Bugly]], who arranged for Grimlock to receive a communication between Jetfire and Shockwave. Believing Jetfire was intending to defect, Grimlock headed for the meeting. However, when the [[Chaos Trinity]] arrived and captured Jetfire, Grimlock jumped out of the shadows and attacked. The Fallen had to watch his followers take a sound beating. After dispatching the mystics, Grimlock attempted to execute Jetfire. The Autobot scientist was saved only because the Fallen himself soon arrived. Grimlock being Grimlock, he launched himself at the Fallen, but was completely overwhelmed. He woke up later strapped to a table and had to listen to Jetfire trying to convince him to help them both escape. Grimlock broke free with ease and was part of the multi-faction army that attempted to halt the Fallen's plans. {{storylink|The War Within: The Dark Ages}}

Later, Grimlock served both as leader of the Dynobots and the right-hand bot to Ultra Magnus, who had taken control in Optimus' absence and had managed to secure a truce with Shockwave. Grimlock was less than happy about this, partly because he didn't trust the Decepticons, and partly because he had no idea what to with himself in peacetime. He never got to find out, as the truce was betrayed and Grimlock was apparently killed when he dove in front of a blast meant for Magnus. {{storylink|The War Within: The Age of Wrath}}

{{Note|Due to Dreamwave's closure, the conclusion of the ''War Within'' series was never seen; as Grimlock appears in the modern-day Dreamwave books, however, he obviously was revived somehow. Really, did you actually think [[Simon Furman|Furman]] would kill off Grimlock?}}

Millennia later, on Earth, Megatron captured the other four Dinobots, a fact which he used as leverage to get Grimlock to turn traitor and join the Decepticons after they were reactivated by [[Lazarus]]. His only real contribution to the Decepticons was being beaten up, and beaten down by Trailbreaker. {{Storylink|Prime Directive}}

It didn't last very long, though, as [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] soon showed up with his Triple Changers. Grimlock's true loyalty became obvious when he stopped Blitzwing from blowing off Optimus's head by grabbing his tank turret and bending it into a pretzel with one hand. After that, Shockwave sent Megatron off to Cybertron, prompting Grimlock to rejoin the Autobots in the ''Ark''. When Optimus' group surrendered to Ultra Magnus, some of the Autobots remained on Earth, Grimlock among them. He headed for the frozen north, and then freed the other Dinobots from Megatron's holding tank. Stealing a Decepticon shuttle, the Dinobots then headed for Cybertron, meaning to free Prime and his group. After a rough landing, they acquired some transportation from Octane and hurried to Iacon. There, Grimlock did his part by leading a massive Dinobot assault on Shockwave's complex, before breaking off to take care of the Decepticon leader himself. Blitzwing again got in his way, however, and Grimlock was forced to battle both, a battle that was going his way until Ultra Magnus shot him in the face. Perceptor repaired him, and Grimlock did his part for the rebellion by giving Hot Rod some back-up. For a third and final time, he fought Blitzwing, this time taking out the Decepticon with ease, grabbing him by the tank turret and throwing him into a [[Guardian robot|Guardian]]. Leaving the main conflict, Grimlock followed Shockwave, Optimus and Ultra Magnus and ended up saving the Autobot pair, stating he'd hate to lose the chance to pay back the "stuffy traitor". Prime thanked Primus, but Grimlock said Prime should be thanking ''him''. {{storylink|War and Peace}}

While the main group of Earth Autobots returned, the Dinobots remained on Cybertron to give Ultra Magnus some needed muscle.

===The Beast Within===
In a devastating battle with the Decepticons, Grimlock made the decision to combine with the other Dinobots to form the "[[Beast]]". {{storylink|The Beast Within}}

===Beast Wars animated continuity===
====3H ''Reaching the Omega Point'' comics====
====IDW ''Beast Wars'' comics====
{{quote|Shadows lengthen. The twilight of the Cybertronian race gathers. The end is nigh.|Shockaract}}
{{quote|Reminds me of the good ol' days.|Grimlock}}

Grimlock was among the ''[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s protoforms when the ship crashed on Earth. When [[Razorbeast]] and [[Optimus Minor]] were attempting to "rescue" [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] from [[Magmatron]], the [[Predacons]] detected a spark signature that was apparently off the scale, big and mad. Grimlock showed up and acted as the perfect distraction, making ''very'' short work of the Predacons. (Apparently, he was in a very bad mood after waking up and took it out on the Preds.) Magmatron offered Grimlock the chance to withdraw, and when the incredulous Grimlock refused, the Predacon general attacked. Magmatron narrowly arose as the victor by use of his triple beast modes. Grimlock was knocked out, but later helped to construct the [[Maximal]]s' new base. {{Storylink|The Gathering, Part 4}}

Later, when [[Prowl (Transmetal)|Prowl]] remarked they had work to do on Earth, with [[Ravage]]'s Predacon militia still a threat, [[Wolfang]] reminded him that they had Grimlock on their side. {{Storylink|The Ascending, Part 1}}. The bot in question was patrolling the jungle around the base at the time and bumped into the three-mech team of [[Manterror]], [[Retrax]] and [[Snapper]]. He only noticed Manterror and Retrax however, as Snapper was being crushed under his right foot at the time. While Retrax rolled for his life, Manterror had to face Grimlock on his own, and lost his wings for his trouble. This little group turned out to be a distraction, however, intended to lure the Maximals' big gun away while Ravage led an all-out strike on the base.

The former Dinobot wasn't about to be left out in the cold, however, and he returned to base ready for "the main course," which consisted of crushing [[Spittor]] under his foot and tearing apart [[Iguanus]] and half a dozen other Predacons. Still, even with him and [[Torca]] working overtime, things might have gone poorly without [[Lio Convoy]]'s arrival. {{Storylink|The Ascending, Part 2}}

When Lio Convoy and Ravage led a joint force to stop Shockaract, Grimlock accompanied them. The former Autobot and former Decepticon had a moment of antagonism when the fight started. But once the battle got underway, Grimlock fell in with the Convoys. As Shockaract declared the end of the Cybertronian race, Grimlock seemed to reminisce, even as he transformed to his beast mode and led a charge. He was one of the survivors, although presumably, he would be a victim of Megatron. {{Storylink|The Ascending, Part 4}}

===Devil's Due Continuity===

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===IDW comics continuity===
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[[Image:SpotlightShockwave_GrimlockSlag_trexscan.jpg|thumb|right|180px|Me Grimlock in love! ]]
Grimlock and the rest of the D'''y'''nobots were a close-knit group of hunters, suffering from neither low intelligence nor Grimlock's traditional speech impairment.

At the start of Megatron's rise to power, the Dynobots turned out to an open casting call for Megatron's underground gladiatorial games. It turned out to be a recruitment drive for the Decepticon army. What they thought of that is unknown, as Autobot security forces raided the party soon after. {{storylink|Megatron Origin}}

After [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] destroyed a cache of energon the Dynobots had been hoarding, causing them severe energon burns and equally severe humiliation, they swore revenge. So, against orders from Optimus Prime, they followed Shockwave when he left Cybertron to stabilize "ultra-energon" deposits he had sent to other worlds as a precaution against the depletion of Cybertron's own energon reserves.

When Shockwave reached his first destination—Earth, at the end of the last Ice Age—the Dynobots destroyed his ship, but Slag revealed that the high energon levels of the planet would put them in stasis lock, since they hadn't come prepared like Shockwave. Slag then came up with the idea that they should scan the local life forms and create alt-modes based on those animals, but with synthetic flesh coatings to protect against the high levels of energon radiation. Grimlock was completely against the idea, but since Slag couldn't come up with something better, he relented. However, he refused to take on the form of the weak mammalians that dominated the planet, demanding "something with some... bite." Scanning fossil deposits, Slag found the remains of some extinct reptilian animals and brought up a holographic representation of one to see if Grimlock approved. What popped up was a Tyrannosaurus Rex, which Grimlock seemed to fall in love with the moment he saw it. The choice made, Grimlock took the Tyrannosaur as his altmode and had Slag find more dinosaurs as templates for the rest of the Dynobots.

[[Image:SpotlightShockwave_Grimlock_stasislock.jpg|thumb|left|180px|One, two three..Red light!]]

On transporting down to the planet's surface to confront Shockwave, they gained an initial advantage, as Shockwave's logic was unable to comprehend the effort and risks they had taken for their revenge. However, when Shockwave recognized this weakness, he shut down his logic processors and executed a "rage" program to enable him to operate on pure instinct. He shrugged off the Dynobots' attacks and beat them severely, ending the assault by burning off their organic coatings. Unable to accept another defeat, Grimlock transformed to robot mode and fought against his imminent [[stasis lock]] to no avail.

However, before leaving the Dynobots' ship, he had enabled a "dead man's switch" designed to take Shockwave with them if they were defeated. When he entered stasis lock, this failsafe activated, firing on a nearby dormant volcano and causing an eruption which buried Shockwave and the Dynobots under ash and lava. Thousands of years later, their entombed bodies were discovered by a human archaelogical team. {{storylink|Spotlight: Shockwave}}

In 2007, [[Skywatch]] took over jurisdiction of the dig site and excavated Shockwave and the Dynobots. {{storylink|Escalation issue 5}}

When the [[Reapers]] attacked the Decepticons, Skywatch decided to awaken the most advanced of their "Eureka Six", which turned out to be Grimlock. {{storylink|Devastation issue 5}}

===Universe===

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==Toys==
===Generation 1===
* '''Grimlock''' (Dinobot, 1985/1986/1991/1992)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-26'''
**''Accessories:'' 'Energo' sword, twin 'stunner' laser rifle, galaxial rocket launcher, 3 rockets,

[[Image:G1Grimlock_toy.jpg|left|thumb|200px|And the debate goes on:
 "Me Grimlock am greatest warrior!"
 "No! Me Grimlock am greatest warrior!"]]

: Grimlock's toy was originally part of [[Takara]]'s ''[[Diaclone]]'' [[Dinosaur Robo]] series. When [[Hasbro]] imported the toy in 1985 for the ''Transformers'' line, its blue pelvis was changed to red and the Diaclone driver mini-figure was dropped.

:The original Grimlock changes from a robot into a robotic T-Rex and comes with a red [[energo-sword]], a black double-barreled rifle, and a rocket launcher with three silver rockets.

: Grimlock was later reissued in the European/Australian-exclusive "[[Classics (Euro)|Classics]]" series. In Japan, he and the other four Dinobots were offered as mail-away items during [[Operation Combination]]; Grimlock cost 2300 yen (his original retail price) and 2 [[robot points]].

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* '''Grimlock''' ([[Classic Pretender]], 1989)
**''Accessories:'' Pretender shell, rifle, helmet, tail/gun

[[Image:Pretender_Grimlock_toy.jpg|right|thumb|130px|Me Grimlock have fleshy bits!]]

: A simplified and slightly modified version of Grimlock, he transforms into a robotic T-Rex whose tail becomes a handgun. He came with a large human [[Pretender]] shell with a rather knight-like armor theme, with a helmet and large cannon.

: His human shell looks a lot like [[Wikipedia:Ed Asner|Ed Asner]].
{{Note|Pretender Classic Grimlock's function was Lieutenant Commander instead of Dinobot Commander.}}

* '''Grimlock''' ([[Legends (G1)|Legends]], 1989)
**''Accessories:'' Tail/gun

[[Image:GrimlockLegends_toy.jpg|left|thumb|130px|Me Grimlock say cut it out.]]

: A K-Mart [[exclusive]] in its Hasbro release, this version of Grimlock is simply the inner robot of his Classic Pretender form without the shell or its accessories, leaving him only his tail/gun. In Japan, he was only available in a boxed "Hero Set" with the other three Legends toys, but with a silver face rather than the Hasbro version's orange.

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* '''Grimlock''' (Action Master, 1990)
**''Accessories:'' Anti-tank cannon partner, particle beam cannon

[[Image:G1Grimlock_ActionMaster.jpg|thumb|right|100px|Me Grimlock no longer able to transform.]]

: Part of the initial assortment of non-transforming [[Action Master]] figures, Grimlock's design combines his cartoon model with extra toy-based detailing. He came with the [[Anti-tank cannon]] "partner" machine which could be ridden by Grimlock or unfolded to form a really ''big'' "long-range mortar launcher".

===Generation 2===
* '''Grimlock''' (Dinobot, 1992)
**''Accessories:'' 'Energo' sword, twin 'stunner' laser rifle,

: Grimlock's original toy was [[redeco]]ed for release in ''Generation 2'', this time lacking the missile launcher accessory. He was available in three different colors; the first --and rarest-- in his original silver (the easiest way to spot if this is a G2 or original is by the "Autobot" tampograph on his leg), then in a medium turquoise-blue, and finally (and most commonly) in a dark blue.

{{Note|Grimlock outranked Optimus Prime in the G2 toyline! Prime had a rank of 9.}}

===Beast Wars===
* '''Grimlock''' (Deluxe, 1997)
**''Accessories:'' Tail/rotate-blade, sword

[[Image:BeastWarsgrimlock_toy.jpg|right|thumb|150px|[[Ben Yee]] think me Grimlock look like dalmatian... :(]]

: Beast Wars Grimlock is a [[redeco]] of [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] in gray and gold with black spots, transforming into a "raptor" of some variety. His tail becomes a sword and a rotate-blade. He was slightly [[retool]]ed to have space for an "energon chip" [[rubsign]]. Unfortunately, Grimlock suffers from [[Gold Plastic Syndrome]].

: This mold is also used by [[Dinobots (toyline)|Dinobots]] [[Grimlock (Dinobots)|Grimlock]], and was retooled to make [[Dinotron (BM)|Dinotron]], [[Hardhead (BWN)|Hardhead]] and [[Thrust (BWII)|Thrustor]].

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===Beast Machines===
:[[T-Wrecks]] may have been intended to be a new form for Grimlock, based on the references in his tech spec bio to his ''Beast Wars'' "Attack Specialist" function and other hints. However, T-Wrecks' appearances in the ''Universe: The Wreckers'' comics suggests he is a new, unrelated character.

===Alternators===
* '''Grimlock''' (2005)
**''Alternator ID number:'' '''9'''
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''BT-10'''
**''Accessories:'' Engine/gun, sword

[[Image:AlternatorsGrimlock_toy.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Me can't munch metal, but can burn rubber!]]

: ''[[Alternators]]'' Grimlock transforms into a silver 1:24 scale Ford Mustang with opening doors, hood, and trunk. His engine transforms into a double-barreled gun, and he also carries an orange sword which can attach to the underside of his vehicle mode. The toy is one of the most-complained-about Alternators toys, due to its notoriously finicky transformation (with many small steps that must be performed in exactly the right order) and to several pieces which have a tendency to pop off with relatively small amounts of force.

:This mold was remolded into ''Alternators'' [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]].

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===Universe===
:The [[Grimlock (Energon)|Grimlock]] toy released in ''[[Energon (franchise)|Energon]]'' was originally created by Hasbro for release as a special new-mold addition for the ''Universe'' toyline and was intended to represent ''Generation 1'' Grimlock. However, it wasn't and it didn't for the combination of budgetary concerns and keeping the combination gimmick (since he combines with the packed-in [[Swoop (Energon)|Swoop]] to form "Mega-Dinobot") only in the ''Energon'' toyline, which had combination as a central theme.

===Classics===
*'''Grimlock''' (Deluxe, 2006)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-03'''
**''Accessories:'' Missile launcher, missile, removable tail

[[Image:Grimlockclassicstoy.jpg|right|thumb|150px|Me Grimlock just come from ''Jurassic Park 4'' audition. Me ate other actors!]]

: ''Classics'' Grimlock, a gray and gold ''Tyrannosaurus rex'', is a re-imagined form of his original toy. His dinosaur mode's sculpt is based heavily upon [[TakaraTomy]]'s ''Zoids'' [[Wikipedia:Geno Saurer|Genosaurer]] toy, although for Grimlock the ''Zoids'' Tyrannosaurus toy [[Wikipedia:Berserk Führer|Berserk Führer]] might have been more apropos. It features articulated jaws, some neck and arm movement, posable legs, a segmented, articulated tail, and is notably designed to run rather than drag (theories on the T-Rex having changed from "caveman adversary" to "Carl Lewis in lizard skin" since the G1 incarnation).

:There are several similarities between Grimlock's Classic toy and his Pretender Classic toy:
:* The T-Rex's arms are on the sides of the robot-mode legs.
:* In robot mode, his tail detaches to become a sword/whip, similar to his Pretender Classic toy.
:* His bayonet blaster bears a [[Media:Grimlock_gun_prt_clsc.JPG|similarity]] to his Pretender toy's.
:His bayonet blaster can be deployed in either mode and fires a clear red projectile. Both weapons can be stored on his back when not used. As with most ''Classics'' toys, Grimlock features a heat-sensitive [[rubsign]], placed on the left side of the tyrannosaurus torso/his left leg.

:A common complaint about the figure is the size of the peg being too small in relation to the peg-hole, making it impossible to lock the arms into place. In addition, the bayonet blaster has a hair-trigger.

:An unpainted ''Classics'' Grimlock was used at the [[BotCon 2007]] customization classes to create ''[[Timelines]]'' [[Overkill]]. The mold is also [[redeco]] into [[Grimlock (Timelines)|"Shattered Glass" Grimlock]].

:Classic Grimlock later comes with Classic Jetfire in a twin-pack set in 2007.

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===Titanium Series===
*'''Grimlock''' (3" Robot Masters, 2006)
**''Accessories:'' Gun

[[Image:Titanium_RM_Grimlock.jpg|right|thumb|150px|Me Grimlock boogie down!!]]

: ''Titanium'' Grimlock is a non-transforming, three inch die-cast metal figurine based on his toy and comic/cartoon model. He has very limited articulation, in his neck, waist and shoulders. Grimlock is posed squatting and/or dancing.

====Unreleased====
*'''Grimlock''' (6" Cybertron Heroes)
**''Accessories:'' Gun, Energo-sword

:Based upon his appearance from ''The War Within'', this transforming partly die-cast and plastic Grimlock was never released due to the cancellation of the ''Titanium'' toy line. Hasbro provided a sample to the toy/character concept's designer, [[Don Figueroa]].

===Attacktix===
*'''Grimlock''' (Booster, 2007)
[[Image:Attacktix_Grimlock.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Me Grimlock can't move. [[The Last Stand!|Seem]] [[Blast from the Past|to]] [[Spotlight: Shockwave|happen]] [[Still Life!|a lot]].]]

: '''Attacktix''' Grimlock is depicted in his ''Tyrannosarus'' mode, and has a sculpt based heavily upon his original G1 toy. Pressing down on his back will cause his head to extend and presumably hit whatever he's facing.

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==Merchandise==
===MyClone===
*'''Grimlock''' (Takara, 2003)

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===Transformers - Mini Bust===
[[Image:Grimlock Mini-bust.jpg|thumb|right|150px|When me Grimlock get legs back, you in BIG TROUBLE!]]
* '''Grimlock''' (Diamond Select, 2007)

A mini-bust of Grimlock based on his appearance in the cartoon was released by Diamond Select in 2007. The figure includes the upper body of Grimlock, wielding his energo-sword, acting as if rushing into the battlefield. There is the head of his beast mode sculpted into the base of the statue.

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[[Image:Grimlock_sdcc.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Me Grimlock say no fun to be exclusive all of time.]]
* '''War Within Grimlock''' (Diamond Select, 2007)

War Within Grimlock was an Action Figure Xpress exclusive at the 2007 San Diego Comic Con. He was sculpted by Chris Lee of Art Asylum and limited to 600 pieces. The sculpt features Grimlock holding his flaming sword. The front of his vehicle mode is sculpted onto the base of the bust.

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===Robot Heroes===
*'''Grimlock Vs Shockwave''' (Two Pack, 2007)
[[Image:G1_RobotHeroes_ShockwaveVsGrimlock.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Me Grimlock no cutie, me king!]]

Packed with [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]], Grimlock is a detailed two-inch tall figurine with exaggerated, cartoonish proportions. He is sculpted holding his sword in his right hand. He brings cuddly wuddly death.

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===3D Battle-Card Game===
*'''Grimlock''' (2007)

: A 48-point "rare" character in the [[3D Battle-Card Game]]'s "Energon Wars" expansion, Grimlock "transforms" into a gray vague approximation of a ''t. Rex''. He uses the same parts layout as [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] and [[Cruellock]].

==Trivia==
[[Image:Grimlock_Natural_History_Museum.JPG|thumb|right|150px|Me Grimlock BIG person, so they put Grimlock's statue in Natural History Museum.]]
* In the original Diaclone commercial for Grimlock, it showed him spewing fire from his mouth. Guess why ''that'' was removed, huh?
* There is a Grimlock toy placed in the showcase in the dinosaur section of the [[Wikipedia:Natural History Museum|Natural History Museum]] in London, United Kingdom.
* Grimlock is generally regarded as [[Simon Furman]]'s signature character.
* According to [[Gone But Not Forgotten|Marvel UK #107]]'s letters page, Grimlock considers the 23rd of August 1986 his birthday. It's the date he took over the Transformers letters page. He also thinks he could take out Soundwave in a fight.
* Grimlock's function is Lieutenant Commander instead of Dinobot Commander on his Pretender Classic and Alternator toys. Lieutenant Commander is [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]]'s rank. Deal with it, egobot.
* A working name for the [[Alternators]] Ford Mustang mold which ultimately ended up as Grimlock was "[[Freeway]]", according to various early store listings.
* Grimlock's beast mode in ''The Gathering'' does not actually match any dromaeosaur on record, seeming to combine elements of both the dromaeosaur body type with that of a carnosaur or tyrannosaurid. A fuzor, perhaps?
* In ''The Ascending'' Issue 3, Grimlock is shown fighting in his robot mode. His tail weapon appears to take the form of a blaster. In Issue 4, he is the only Transformer, Maximal or Predacon, the same height as the two Convoys.
*Grimlock has his very own fanboy, [[Noise]], who someday wants to grow up and be just like him{{m-}}a godless killing machine.

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==Footnotes==
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==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1985/Autobot/Grimlock/grimlock.htm Grimlock at TFU.info]

*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Grimlock Grimlock's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

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Along Came a Spider

2008-04-17T13:07:48Z

Black rhino ranger: Undo revision 174574 by Chris McFeely (talk)

{{episodenav|animated|9|season=1|prev=Nanosec (episode)|next=Sound and Fury}}

[[Image:Blackarach anim beast.jpg|right|thumb|300px|[[Wikipedia:Spider-Woman_%28Jessica_Drew%29#Spider-Woman|To know her is to fear her!]]]]

'''Bumblebee and Bulkhead's first Halloween turns even spookier when they encounter a giant spider that turns out to be the deadly Decepticon Blackarachnia.'''

==Synopsis==
[[Sari Sumdac|Sari]] introduces [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]], [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] and [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] to the concept of [[Halloween]], starting with selecting pumpkins. As she explains the idea of choosing just the right costume, Prime's attention is distracted by a large black widow spider decoration. He remembers back to his academy days...

[[Image:Alongcameaspiderthreefriends.jpg|left|thumb|250px|"So once again, we find that evil of the past seeps into the present like salad dressing through cheap wax paper, mixing memory and desire."]]
''On an organic world, Optimus and his friend '''Elita-1''' admire the strange webbing stretching across the high rocks, not knowing what it is, until [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]] calls to them to hurry up. Optimus cautions about the fact that such worlds are normally considered off-limits to Autobots, but there's supposedly a real Decepticon ship somewhere in the area. Elita's there for the historical value, but Sentinel just wants to get his hands on the [[energon|enegonic goodness]] cache that must be in it. Prime's still wary of potential punishment should they get caught, but figures he has to keep the other two from getting in over their heads. Sentinel insists that never happens{{m-}}right before the ground crumbles under their feet, sending all three plunging into a deep cavern. Strange, skittering noises echo from its dark reaches. Optimus activates his shoulder-light to see...''

Bulkhead snaps Prime's attention back to the present by donning a bedsheet (which just covers his head) and going "Boo," startling his leader. Prime claims a ghost from his past just has him jumpy, then stalks off.

Back at the Autobot base, Sari critiques Bumblebee and Bulkhead's costumes, but says her own costume is only one surprise planned for the night. Noticing Prime lost in thought, she uses her key to activate one of the car plant's cranes, swinging another spider decoration in his face. The unexpected sight of it gives Prime a bad flashback, and he quickly hacks the fake spider to bits. He admonishes Sari for making frivolous use of the All Spark Key, and she counters about him needlessly using his axe. Prime stares down at the remains of the decoration, and his thoughts travel back again...

''As Prime, Elita and Sentinel walk through the cavern, Sentinel enthuses about the rich hoard of energon he's sure they'll find soon. Prime shushes him as he hears something, and soon all three are casting their lights about, trying to pinpoint the skittering. The source reveals itself as an enormous, alien spider, which quickly traps Elita with some webbing. As Prime fights it off, Sentinel frees her with his charged shield, but the spider abruptly takes him down. Elita starts using her special power-download ability, but Optimus, holding back the spider, tells her it won't work on organics. She instead borrows the unconscious Sentinel's shield power and shield itself, using them to defend herself, then to bring down a huge stalactite to impale the spider. As Sentinel wakes up and Elita returns his shield, Prime says that it's not worth staying around, be it for history or energon. Sentinel still insists on one good reason to leave, and he gets three when another trio of giant spiders drop down to confront them. Sentinel quickly puts up his shield's energy barrier, covering Prime and Elita's retreat. Prime rolls out, and Elita follows, calling his name...''

[[Image:Saricostume.jpg|right|thumb|100px|Arise, Sarimus Prime.]]
Prime suddenly becomes aware of Sari calling his name to show off her costume{{m-}}a costume of him. He doesn't appreciate her vocal impersonation of him, and declines to join the trio on their trick-or-treat outing.

As Sari and the two Autobots progress though a local neighborhood, Bumblebee is a bit spooked by the atmosphere. Sari reminds him it's all pretend...unaware they're being tracked by an enormous spider traveling over the rooftops. As she coaches them through their first actual "trick or treat," Bumblebee spots the spider watching them and freaks out, but it's gone before anyone else sees it. Sari teases him for being more timid than Optimus, but 'Bee protests he knows the difference between a fake decoration and a real giant spider. Listening in from headquarters, Prime has Bumblebee clarify what he saw, then heads out to meet them, advising them to stay put. As Prime [[rolls out]], his thoughts roll back...

''Racing through the caverns, Prime reaches the wreckage of a Decepticon warship. Separated from the other two, he heads inside, hoping to find them there. Instead, he finds an impressive stash of energon cubes, just as Sentinel predicted. He also finds an impressive stash of giant spider eggs. As the spiderlings hatch and start attacking, Prime gets stuck on some webbing, but Elita shows up in time to help. As they fight to escape from more full-grown spiders, Prime has Elita borrow his grappler ability. They bring down a huge stalactite through the ship's ruined overhead, grappling their way out as the energon detonates below them. However, Elita's download ability times out just then, and she goes plunging back too fast for Prime to catch her. Sentinel arrives on top of the ship as she plummets into the hold, but knowing the energon is going to blow any second, Prime grapples himself and Sentinel to safety rather than risk going after Elita just then. Once they break the surface, Prime scans for Elita's energy signature, but doesn't find it. A furious Sentinel blames everything on Prime.''

In the present, still en route to Sari and company's location, Prime swears he won't let it happen again. Meanwhile, Bumblebee stresses that they have to stay vigilant until Prime arrives{{m-}}even as Sari is yanked out from under them by the giant spider. Bumblebee quickly cuts Sari free, but as he and Bulkhead surround the spider, it transforms into a female robot who calls herself '''[[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]]'''. Sari's not too surprised or impressed by her femininity, but it makes a much bigger impression on Bulkhead{{m-}}right up to the point Blackarachnia stabs him with two of her spider legs, knocking him out. She quickly gives Bumblebee the same treatment, then tells Sari they should go, now that Sari's safe. Sari protests the two Autobots are her friends, and Blackarachnia apologizes, pretending she can't tell which robots are good or bad on Earth. As Sari futilely tries to revive Bulkhead with her All Spark Key, Blackarachnia notes that the organic nature of her venom precludes that solution, since the All Spark doesn't affect organics. She offers to try helping the Autobots if Sari will just hand her the key, but her ruse is interrupted when Prime lassos her legs out from under her. Blackarachnia appears shocked to see him, but quickly frees herself and starts fighting back{{m-}}using Bumblebee's stingers and Bulkhead's strength. Instead of borrowing any of Prime's powers, though, she judo-throws him across the street, then kidnaps Sari.

Prime desperately pursues the pair across the rooftops. He catches up, stuns BA with a faceful of foam, then grapples Sari free. Despite this respite and Sari's warning, Blackarachnia still catches Prime half-unaware. He fights back, but she dodges him constantly, claiming to know all his textbook Autobot Academy moves. Prime wonders if he knows her, and she berates him for forgetting his friends{{m-}}even if he remembered Sentinel. Prime is stunned to realize he's facing Elita-1. She finally relates what really happened that day:

''Trapped in the ship and surrounded by the spiders, Elita tries desperately to download their abilities. Instead, she is infected with their venom, and it mutates her into a freak, a half-organic, half-robotic being.''

[[Image:TFA_ep9_Optimus_and_Blackarachnia_rooftop.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Never liked the [[Silverbolt (BW)|Bird-dog]] anyway.]]

Prime realizes that her half-organic nature is what masked her energy signature from his scans. BA sneers that if he'd known and saved her, she'd just have been dismantled and examined on some lab table on Cybertron. Prime reproves her for joining the Decepticons, but she counters that at least she knows where she stands with them. She webs up Prime and snatches Sari's key, certain that if anything can purge her organic half, it can. She plugs it into herself, but the unleashed energies begin causing all organic life in range, including Sari, to wither and sicken. Prime breaks free, but before he can stop Blackarachnia, she grabs up Sari and throws her off the roof. Sari snags a flagpole long enough for Bumblebee and Bulkhead to save her, leaving Prime free to deal with Blackarachnia. She collapses on her own, though. Prime surmises her spark can't survive without her organic half, but she's too weak to pull out the key and stop the reaction. Prime forces through the energy barrier around her and removes it for her, restoring the organic life in the area to normal. As he helps her up, Blackarachnia asks him to go, not wanting to be seen like that. Still calling her Elita, Prime asks her to come with them, promising his group will find a cure, and allow him to earn back her trust. She seems to respond positively, but it's another sham. Blackarachnia stabs him unconscious and leaves, vowing it will be a long time before she trusts another Autobot, especially him.

Later, Prime returns Sari's key. She thanks him and admits he was right{{m-}}maybe it's time she gave the key a rest. Bumblebee trundles in painfully, still damaged from his fall after catching Sari, and asks if she could use it once more. Bulkhead asks who the bug-bot lady was, and Prime responds it was someone he should never have left behind. Elsewhere, Blackarachnia stands on a rooftop, gazing at the moon and sobbing over her fate.

==Stats==

*'''Written by:''' [[Marty Isenberg]]
*'''Directed by:''' [[Matt Youngberg]], [[Irineo Maramba]], [[Yutaka Kagawa]]
*'''Original airdate:''' February 16, 2008

===Featured characters===
(''Numbers indicate order of appearance.)''
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! style="background:#FFEEEE" | [[Autobot]]s
! style="background:#EEEEFE" | [[Decepticon]]s
! style="background:antiquewhite" | [[Human]]s
|-
| style="background:#FFEEEE" valign="top" |
*[[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead ]] (2)
*[[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] (3)
*[[Optimus Prime (Animated) |Optimus Prime]] (4)
*[[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Elita-1]] (Flashback) (5)
*[[Sentinel Prime (Animated) |Sentinel Prime]] (Flashback) (6)
| style="background:#EEEEFE" valign="top" |
*[[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]] (7)
| style="background:antiquewhite" valign="top" |
*[[Sari Sumdac]] (1)
|}

==Quotes==
"Beautiful, isn't it?" 
"Yeah...what is it?" 
"I have no idea." 
:{{m-}}'''Elita-1''' and '''Optimus Prime''' admire the webs.

'''Optimus''': Somebody's gotta keep you two walking malfunctions from getting in over your heads. 
'''Sentinel''': We ''never'' get in over our heads. 
''[The ground crumbles underneath them, causing them to fall into a cavern. Optimus gives Sentinel a look.]'' 
'''Sentinel''': What? 
:{{m-}}'''Optimus Prime''' and '''Sentinel Prime'''

'''Bumblebee''': ''[Bad Slavic accent]'' Velcome. I am Count Dracubot. I vant to drink your motor oil. 
'''Bulkhead''': Hey, guys! I finally found something big enough for my ghost costume. 
''[Fumes surround his feet, causing Sari to cough]'' 
'''Sari''': Bulkhead, where did you get that sheet? 
'''Bulkhead''': It was just draped over some house. Weird place to put a bed sheet. 
'''Sari''': Oh, that's not a bedsheet. It's a fumigation tent. 
'''Bulkhead''': Really...? What's a fumigation tent? 
''[As well as the fumes, Bulkhead's feet are now covered in dead cockroaches.]''
:{{m-}}'''Sari''' sees the Autobots' costumes.

"I've got a good feeling about this. Any cycle now, we're gonna be overflowing with rich, All Spark-infused, energon-y goodness!" 
"Did you really just say 'energon-y goodness'?" 
:{{m-}}'''Sentinel Prime's''' speech <strike>tick</strike>{{m-}}er, tic bemuses '''Elita-1'''.

'''Sari''': Optimus! Check out my costume! 
''[Camera reveals that Sari is Optimus Prime]'' 
'''Sari''': ''[Imitating Optimus]'' Oh, look at me. I'm Optimus Prime. I'm scared of spiders. 
''[Bumblebee and Bulkhead chuckle]'' 
'''Optimus''': That's ''not'' what I sound like...is it? 
'''Bumblebee''': Last chance to join us, Boss Bot. 
'''Optimus''': Thanks, but I'll pass. Just be careful out there, all right? 
'''Sari''': Don't worry. I'll keep these guys out of trouble. ''[Imitating Optimus]'' Transform and roll out! 
''[Optimus gives Sari a look]'' 
'''Sari''': Couldn't resist. 
:{{m-}}'''Sari''' and the Autobots roast '''Optimus Prime'''.

'''Bumblebee''': Who are you? 
'''Bulkhead''': What are you? 
'''Sari''': Duh. She's a girl. 
:{{m-}}The gang meets '''Blackarachnia'''.

"This is all ''your fault!''" 
:{{m-}}'''Sentinel Prime''', blaming Optimus for the disaster that happened on an excursion he suggested. Jerk.

"So, who ''was'' that bug-bot lady?" 
"Someone I never should have left behind." 
:{{m-}}'''Bulkhead''' and '''Optimus Prime''' talk some heavy stuff.

==Other notes==

===Animation and/or technical glitches===
* Shortly after Sentinel says that he and Optimus should go back for Elita when the Decepticon ship explodes, his nose and forehead are painted silver, like Optimus.
===Continuity errors===

===Transformers references===
* In the [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|Generation 1 animated series]], [[Elita One (G1)|Elita One]] was [[Optimus Prime (G1)|G1 Optimus Prime's]] paramour. The ''Animated'' incarnation of the character refrains from attempting to visually homage the original pink-and-white Elita, instead creating a blue-and-yellow pony-tailed character who bears a resemblance to Elita's earlier (pony-tailed) form, [[Ariel]]. Her relationship with Prime is less distinct (it almost appears as if she's ''Sentinel's'' girlfriend at one point), with this episode's flashbacks not suggesting any romantic connection between the two, but the present-day scenes suggesting ''some'' kind of personal tension (though that could be guilt on Prime's part and anger on Elita's).
* Sentinel Prime is depicted here as Optimus Prime's friend and peer, whereas in all other series he's either been Prime's mentor, a superior officer, or a predecessor. In this way it seems the roles of Sentinel and [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]] have been reversed from past continuities.
* With this episode, [[energon cube]]s make their first appearance in Transformers cartoons since ''Beast Wars''. They look ''exactly'' like they did in the Generation 1 cartoon, which even ''Beast Wars'' didn't pull off.

===Real-world references===
* Bulkhead's "ghost" costume, with its constant cloud of pesticides at the bottom, coincidentally resembles "Pig-Pen's" costume from ''[[wikipedia:It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown|It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown]].''
* Judging how Blackarachnia [[Spider-Man|can swing from a thread]], the Autobots had best take a look overhead.

===Miscellaneous trivia===
* This is the first episode to not feature [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] or [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]].
* In a flashback, prior to Blackarachnia's transformation, a helmet can be seen sitting near the energon cubes. In the present day, she appears to be wearing it, possibly to hide the extent of her transformation.
* This episode makes a point of how Sari has been overusing her key previously, and that it can't be used to cure every TF injury. The writers evidently anticipated that reaction from the audience.
* Referring to himself as "vertically challenged," Bumblebee seems to be over his height complex, which was such a major point in "[[Total Meltdown]]".
* This is the first time Sentinel Prime has been fully on screen. When he appeared in [[Transform and Roll Out!|Transform and Roll Out]], all that was seen of him was his head.
*This episode explains why Sentinel Prime hates Optimus.
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Along Came a Spider

2008-04-17T10:08:42Z

Black rhino ranger: It wasn't near the ship, it was near the energon cubes and the spider eggs

{{episodenav|animated|9|season=1|prev=Nanosec (episode)|next=Sound and Fury}}

[[Image:Blackarach anim beast.jpg|right|thumb|300px|[[Wikipedia:Spider-Woman_%28Jessica_Drew%29#Spider-Woman|To know her is to fear her!]]]]

'''Bumblebee and Bulkhead's first Halloween turns even spookier when they encounter a giant spider that turns out to be the deadly Decepticon Blackarachnia.'''

==Synopsis==
[[Sari Sumdac|Sari]] introduces [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]], [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] and [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] to the concept of [[Halloween]], starting with selecting pumpkins. As she explains the idea of choosing just the right costume, Prime's attention is distracted by a large black widow spider decoration. He remembers back to his academy days...

[[Image:Alongcameaspiderthreefriends.jpg|left|thumb|250px|"So once again, we find that evil of the past seeps into the present like salad dressing through cheap wax paper, mixing memory and desire."]]
''On an organic world, Optimus and his friend '''Elita-1''' admire the strange webbing stretching across the high rocks, not knowing what it is, until [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]] calls to them to hurry up. Optimus cautions about the fact that such worlds are normally considered off-limits to Autobots, but there's supposedly a real Decepticon ship somewhere in the area. Elita's there for the historical value, but Sentinel just wants to get his hands on the [[energon|enegonic goodness]] cache that must be in it. Prime's still wary of potential punishment should they get caught, but figures he has to keep the other two from getting in over their heads. Sentinel insists that never happens{{m-}}right before the ground crumbles under their feet, sending all three plunging into a deep cavern. Strange, skittering noises echo from its dark reaches. Optimus activates his shoulder-light to see...''

Bulkhead snaps Prime's attention back to the present by donning a bedsheet (which just covers his head) and going "Boo," startling his leader. Prime claims a ghost from his past just has him jumpy, then stalks off.

Back at the Autobot base, Sari critiques Bumblebee and Bulkhead's costumes, but says her own costume is only one surprise planned for the night. Noticing Prime lost in thought, she uses her key to activate one of the car plant's cranes, swinging another spider decoration in his face. The unexpected sight of it gives Prime a bad flashback, and he quickly hacks the fake spider to bits. He admonishes Sari for making frivolous use of the All Spark Key, and she counters about him needlessly using his axe. Prime stares down at the remains of the decoration, and his thoughts travel back again...

''As Prime, Elita and Sentinel walk through the cavern, Sentinel enthuses about the rich hoard of energon he's sure they'll find soon. Prime shushes him as he hears something, and soon all three are casting their lights about, trying to pinpoint the skittering. The source reveals itself as an enormous, alien spider, which quickly traps Elita with some webbing. As Prime fights it off, Sentinel frees her with his charged shield, but the spider abruptly takes him down. Elita starts using her special power-download ability, but Optimus, holding back the spider, tells her it won't work on organics. She instead borrows the unconscious Sentinel's shield power and shield itself, using them to defend herself, then to bring down a huge stalactite to impale the spider. As Sentinel wakes up and Elita returns his shield, Prime says that it's not worth staying around, be it for history or energon. Sentinel still insists on one good reason to leave, and he gets three when another trio of giant spiders drop down to confront them. Sentinel quickly puts up his shield's energy barrier, covering Prime and Elita's retreat. Prime rolls out, and Elita follows, calling his name...''

[[Image:Saricostume.jpg|right|thumb|100px|Arise, Sarimus Prime.]]
Prime suddenly becomes aware of Sari calling his name to show off her costume{{m-}}a costume of him. He doesn't appreciate her vocal impersonation of him, and declines to join the trio on their trick-or-treat outing.

As Sari and the two Autobots progress though a local neighborhood, Bumblebee is a bit spooked by the atmosphere. Sari reminds him it's all pretend...unaware they're being tracked by an enormous spider traveling over the rooftops. As she coaches them through their first actual "trick or treat," Bumblebee spots the spider watching them and freaks out, but it's gone before anyone else sees it. Sari teases him for being more timid than Optimus, but 'Bee protests he knows the difference between a fake decoration and a real giant spider. Listening in from headquarters, Prime has Bumblebee clarify what he saw, then heads out to meet them, advising them to stay put. As Prime [[rolls out]], his thoughts roll back...

''Racing through the caverns, Prime reaches the wreckage of a Decepticon warship. Separated from the other two, he heads inside, hoping to find them there. Instead, he finds an impressive stash of energon cubes, just as Sentinel predicted. He also finds an impressive stash of giant spider eggs. As the spiderlings hatch and start attacking, Prime gets stuck on some webbing, but Elita shows up in time to help. As they fight to escape from more full-grown spiders, Prime has Elita borrow his grappler ability. They bring down a huge stalactite through the ship's ruined overhead, grappling their way out as the energon detonates below them. However, Elita's download ability times out just then, and she goes plunging back too fast for Prime to catch her. Sentinel arrives on top of the ship as she plummets into the hold, but knowing the energon is going to blow any second, Prime grapples himself and Sentinel to safety rather than risk going after Elita just then. Once they break the surface, Prime scans for Elita's energy signature, but doesn't find it. A furious Sentinel blames everything on Prime.''

In the present, still en route to Sari and company's location, Prime swears he won't let it happen again. Meanwhile, Bumblebee stresses that they have to stay vigilant until Prime arrives{{m-}}even as Sari is yanked out from under them by the giant spider. Bumblebee quickly cuts Sari free, but as he and Bulkhead surround the spider, it transforms into a female robot who calls herself '''[[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]]'''. Sari's not too surprised or impressed by her femininity, but it makes a much bigger impression on Bulkhead{{m-}}right up to the point Blackarachnia stabs him with two of her spider legs, knocking him out. She quickly gives Bumblebee the same treatment, then tells Sari they should go, now that Sari's safe. Sari protests the two Autobots are her friends, and Blackarachnia apologizes, pretending she can't tell which robots are good or bad on Earth. As Sari futilely tries to revive Bulkhead with her All Spark Key, Blackarachnia notes that the organic nature of her venom precludes that solution, since the All Spark doesn't affect organics. She offers to try helping the Autobots if Sari will just hand her the key, but her ruse is interrupted when Prime lassos her legs out from under her. Blackarachnia appears shocked to see him, but quickly frees herself and starts fighting back{{m-}}using Bumblebee's stingers and Bulkhead's strength. Instead of borrowing any of Prime's powers, though, she judo-throws him across the street, then kidnaps Sari.

Prime desperately pursues the pair across the rooftops. He catches up, stuns BA with a faceful of foam, then grapples Sari free. Despite this respite and Sari's warning, Blackarachnia still catches Prime half-unaware. He fights back, but she dodges him constantly, claiming to know all his textbook Autobot Academy moves. Prime wonders if he knows her, and she berates him for forgetting his friends{{m-}}even if he remembered Sentinel. Prime is stunned to realize he's facing Elita-1. She finally relates what really happened that day:

''Trapped in the ship and surrounded by the spiders, Elita tries desperately to download their abilities. Instead, she is infected with their venom, and it mutates her into a freak, a half-organic, half-robotic being.''

[[Image:TFA_ep9_Optimus_and_Blackarachnia_rooftop.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Never liked the [[Silverbolt (BW)|Bird-dog]] anyway.]]

Prime realizes that her half-organic nature is what masked her energy signature from his scans. BA sneers that if he'd known and saved her, she'd just have been dismantled and examined on some lab table on Cybertron. Prime reproves her for joining the Decepticons, but she counters that at least she knows where she stands with them. She webs up Prime and snatches Sari's key, certain that if anything can purge her organic half, it can. She plugs it into herself, but the unleashed energies begin causing all organic life in range, including Sari, to wither and sicken. Prime breaks free, but before he can stop Blackarachnia, she grabs up Sari and throws her off the roof. Sari snags a flagpole long enough for Bumblebee and Bulkhead to save her, leaving Prime free to deal with Blackarachnia. She collapses on her own, though. Prime surmises her spark can't survive without her organic half, but she's too weak to pull out the key and stop the reaction. Prime forces through the energy barrier around her and removes it for her, restoring the organic life in the area to normal. As he helps her up, Blackarachnia asks him to go, not wanting to be seen like that. Still calling her Elita, Prime asks her to come with them, promising his group will find a cure, and allow him to earn back her trust. She seems to respond positively, but it's another sham. Blackarachnia stabs him unconscious and leaves, vowing it will be a long time before she trusts another Autobot, especially him.

Later, Prime returns Sari's key. She thanks him and admits he was right{{m-}}maybe it's time she gave the key a rest. Bumblebee trundles in painfully, still damaged from his fall after catching Sari, and asks if she could use it once more. Bulkhead asks who the bug-bot lady was, and Prime responds it was someone he should never have left behind. Elsewhere, Blackarachnia stands on a rooftop, gazing at the moon and sobbing over her fate.

==Stats==

*'''Written by:''' [[Marty Isenberg]]
*'''Directed by:''' [[Matt Youngberg]], [[Irineo Maramba]], [[Yutaka Kagawa]]
*'''Original airdate:''' February 16, 2008

===Featured characters===
(''Numbers indicate order of appearance.)''
{|border=5 cellpadding=5 cellspacing=5 align=center style="border:#800000"

! style="background:#FFEEEE" | [[Autobot]]s
! style="background:#EEEEFE" | [[Decepticon]]s
! style="background:antiquewhite" | [[Human]]s
|-
| style="background:#FFEEEE" valign="top" |
*[[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead ]] (2)
*[[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] (3)
*[[Optimus Prime (Animated) |Optimus Prime]] (4)
*[[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Elita-1]] (Flashback) (5)
*[[Sentinel Prime (Animated) |Sentinel Prime]] (Flashback) (6)
| style="background:#EEEEFE" valign="top" |
*[[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]] (7)
| style="background:antiquewhite" valign="top" |
*[[Sari Sumdac]] (1)
|}

==Quotes==
"Beautiful, isn't it?" 
"Yeah...what is it?" 
"I have no idea." 
:{{m-}}'''Elita-1''' and '''Optimus Prime''' admire the webs.

'''Optimus''': Somebody's gotta keep you two walking malfunctions from getting in over your heads. 
'''Sentinel''': We ''never'' get in over our heads. 
''[The ground crumbles underneath them, causing them to fall into a cavern. Optimus gives Sentinel a look.]'' 
'''Sentinel''': What? 
:{{m-}}'''Optimus Prime''' and '''Sentinel Prime'''

'''Bumblebee''': ''[Bad Slavic accent]'' Velcome. I am Count Dracubot. I vant to drink your motor oil. 
'''Bulkhead''': Hey, guys! I finally found something big enough for my ghost costume. 
''[Fumes surround his feet, causing Sari to cough]'' 
'''Sari''': Bulkhead, where did you get that sheet? 
'''Bulkhead''': It was just draped over some house. Weird place to put a bed sheet. 
'''Sari''': Oh, that's not a bedsheet. It's a fumigation tent. 
'''Bulkhead''': Really...? What's a fumigation tent? 
''[As well as the fumes, Bulkhead's feet are now covered in dead cockroaches.]''
:{{m-}}'''Sari''' sees the Autobots' costumes.

"I've got a good feeling about this. Any cycle now, we're gonna be overflowing with rich, All Spark-infused, energon-y goodness!" 
"Did you really just say 'energon-y goodness'?" 
:{{m-}}'''Sentinel Prime's''' speech <strike>tick</strike>{{m-}}er, tic bemuses '''Elita-1'''.

'''Sari''': Optimus! Check out my costume! 
''[Camera reveals that Sari is Optimus Prime]'' 
'''Sari''': ''[Imitating Optimus]'' Oh, look at me. I'm Optimus Prime. I'm scared of spiders. 
''[Bumblebee and Bulkhead chuckle]'' 
'''Optimus''': That's ''not'' what I sound like...is it? 
'''Bumblebee''': Last chance to join us, Boss Bot. 
'''Optimus''': Thanks, but I'll pass. Just be careful out there, all right? 
'''Sari''': Don't worry. I'll keep these guys out of trouble. ''[Imitating Optimus]'' Transform and roll out! 
''[Optimus gives Sari a look]'' 
'''Sari''': Couldn't resist. 
:{{m-}}'''Sari''' and the Autobots roast '''Optimus Prime'''.

'''Bumblebee''': Who are you? 
'''Bulkhead''': What are you? 
'''Sari''': Duh. She's a girl. 
:{{m-}}The gang meets '''Blackarachnia'''.

"This is all ''your fault!''" 
:{{m-}}'''Sentinel Prime''', blaming Optimus for the disaster that happened on an excursion he suggested. Jerk.

"So, who ''was'' that bug-bot lady?" 
"Someone I never should have left behind." 
:{{m-}}'''Bulkhead''' and '''Optimus Prime''' talk some heavy stuff.

==Other notes==

===Animation and/or technical glitches===
* Shortly after Sentinel says that he and Optimus should go back for Elita when the Decepticon ship explodes, his nose and forehead are painted silver, like Optimus.
===Continuity errors===

===Transformers references===
* In the [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|Generation 1 animated series]], [[Elita One (G1)|Elita One]] was [[Optimus Prime (G1)|G1 Optimus Prime's]] paramour. The ''Animated'' incarnation of the character refrains from attempting to visually homage the original pink-and-white Elita, instead creating a blue-and-yellow pony-tailed character who bears a resemblance to Elita's earlier (pony-tailed) form, [[Ariel]]. Her relationship with Prime is less distinct (it almost appears as if she's ''Sentinel's'' girlfriend at one point), with this episode's flashbacks not suggesting any romantic connection between the two, but the present-day scenes suggesting ''some'' kind of personal tension (though that could be guilt on Prime's part and anger on Elita's).
* Sentinel Prime is depicted here as Optimus Prime's friend and peer, whereas in all other series he's either been Prime's mentor, a superior officer, or a predecessor. In this way it seems the roles of Sentinel and [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]] have been reversed from past continuities.
* With this episode, [[energon cube]]s make their first appearance in Transformers cartoons since ''Beast Wars''. They look ''exactly'' like they did in the Generation 1 cartoon, which even ''Beast Wars'' didn't pull off.

===Real-world references===
* Bulkhead's "ghost" costume, with its constant cloud of pesticides at the bottom, coincidentally resembles "Pig-Pen's" costume from ''[[wikipedia:It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown|It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown]].''
* Judging how Blackarachnia [[Spider-Man|can swing from a thread]], the Autobots had best take a look overhead.

===Miscellaneous trivia===
* This is the first episode to not feature [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] or [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]].
* In a flashback, prior to Blackarachnia's transformation, a helmet can be seen sitting in a corner of the energon cubes. In the present day, she appears to be wearing it, possibly to hide the extent of her transformation.
* This episode makes a point of how Sari has been overusing her key previously, and that it can't be used to cure every TF injury. The writers evidently anticipated that reaction from the audience.
* Referring to himself as "vertically challenged," Bumblebee seems to be over his height complex, which was such a major point in "[[Total Meltdown]]".
* This is the first time Sentinel Prime has been fully on screen. When he appeared in [[Transform and Roll Out!|Transform and Roll Out]], all that was seen of him was his head.
*This episode explains why Sentinel Prime hates Optimus.
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User talk:Steve-o

2008-04-17T10:05:54Z

Black rhino ranger: /* Head wars */

My fellow bad guys - I, '''David Willis''', your leader, will speak now about my, '''David Willis'''', plan. My villainous, villainous plan. Question the plan at your peril!......Uh, any questions? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:42, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[[User talk:Steve-o/2006|2006 Archives]]

[[User talk:Steve-o/2007|2007 Archives]]

== Various and sundry ==

On your to-do list...
* Template:Shenanigans - Vanilla display-only messagebox that does just what it looks like, functional equivalent to a disputed-content notice template on wikia
* Template:Fact - [citationneeded] template, direct off wikipedia. (Actually, a bit simpler, wikipedia had an option for cats or something I stripped out.)
* Category:Cleanup by month - Cleanup tags by month. The first sub-section of this page (giving an at-a-glance summary) can be auto updated by a script - the same one used for this purpose on en.wikipedia.org with a few tweaks on the pattern-recognition to accommodate wikia's different grammar. The script logs in as me, so I put in some safeties to keep it from running more than once a day, and a kill-switch in case of malfunction. (I should probably give the code for that to Walky...) It's overkill for this wiki- but a nice extra.

(I'm contemplating whether the cleanup cat might more useful as a ''needs-improvement'' cat, since that's likely to receive use on this wiki...)

The one wrinkle likely to confuse you is the the use of: {{#if}} in the templates, a boolean [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions parser function] that lets the template do things only if certain variables are set. (And thus allows for a neater layout.)

Hope this is useful. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:39, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

==J-original cats==
I don't see how that'll conflict with my subgroup stuff. Feel free to unleash the bot. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 02:28, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:Any chance we could get the bot to remove the "Japanese-original characters" category from articles in the subcategories (Beast Wars Neo characters, Masterforce characters, Operation Combination characters, and Victory characters)? I would do it myself, but I'm really burned out at the moment. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 03:21, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

== TM2 Category title name change (Drone request) ==

[[user:JW|JW]] noticed [[:Category:Transmetals 2]] is... wrong. (it should be [[:Category:Transmetal 2s]].) This affects 19 articles. Since it's more than 17 articles (my arbitrarily-decided break-off point where hand-editing becomes obnoxious) I'm requesting the Diagnostic Drone make the change.-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:11, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
{{notebox|justification=left|note_text=
ALL OCCURRENCES OF: "Category:Transmetals 2" 
CHANGE TO: "Category:Transmetal 2s" 
|extranote_text='''Status:''' NOT COMPLETED
}}
:<nowiki>*</nowiki>sigh* and apparently the change is disputed. Please check [[Category talk:Transmetals 2]] when you see this and see if a conclusion was reached. Shelve the request as appropriate. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:15, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
::Like hell it should be! Transmetals 2 is CORRECT ENGLISH. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:10, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Then shelving the request would be the appropriate response, wouldn't it?
:::Go fix [[:Category:Things that don't exist]]. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:18, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

== CSS Change - Jan 2008 ==

I'm requesting changes to [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css|Monobook.css]]. Cleanup, organization, an a sextet of new styles to largely disable image tagging and 'report a problem,' two features I'm pretty sure Walky would turn off if he could. Request is detailed on the [[MediaWiki talk:Monobook.css|talk page,]] a link to a sandbox for your copy-and-pasting convenience is also included.

There's also a UI change (haven't done one of these before, but it looks straightforward...) which requires a Sysop. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:40, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

== User:Gyro-Robo ==

I'm pretty sure [[User:Gyro-Robo]] is a [[User:Mudflap]] sockpuppet. They both have a habit of repeatedly adding Caliburn and Beta-Maxx to the Mini-Con category and never reading their talk pages. That, and the Gyro-Robo's first edit was about 15 days into Mudflap's 1-month ban. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 19:13, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

:Eh, I think that evidence is insufficient. It's possible there are just two people who have the same annoying habits. That being said, though, Gyro-Robo clearly also needed a ban. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 19:56, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
::Well if you need more, they have the same editing patterns (just messing with categories) and both of them INSIST on adding Unicron in the Decepticon leaders category in spite of numerous reverts, among other identical edits. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:11, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
:::No, it's not really a big deal. He needed to be banned regardless, like I said. I tend to see things that aren't there sometimes, and the "it was true here so maybe it's true everywhere" subconscious thought process is a pet peeve of mine. I wanted to be sure the evidence was overwhelming that they were the same person and not just seperate uncooperative individuals. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 21:22, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure they're the same person. Gyro-Robo appeared on the Stargate Wiki shortly after he did here, doing his exact same edits (chaning around government infobox info) which was also Mudflap's standard edits. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 23:48, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

==Western Governors University==

Hi -- I just responded to [[w:Forum:Issues_with_adds|your post on Central]] about the audio ads. Thanks for spotting that ad -- you're right, it's not cool, and we killed it. It wasn't something that somebody at Wikia saw and approved... We get our ads from ad servers, and once in a while, they try to slip something through that crosses the line.

Unfortunately, that means that we only know about a bad ad when we see it, and sometimes, the users will see it before we do. I'm usually the person who notices them -- I'm on the wikis a lot, and I have a very low tolerance for distracting ads.

So if you see an ad like that again, please let me know -- you can leave me a message on my talk page here, and I'll make sure it's taken care of. It's important to me that we don't have ads on the site that drive users away.

Also, let me know if there's anything else I can help with. My thing is the Entertainment sites, and Teletraan I is one of the biggest and best. So I'm always available, if there's something you need. Talk to you later! -- [[User:Toughpigs|Danny]] ([[User talk:Toughpigs|talk]]) 23:15, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

:Hmmm, I just came back to check and I saw the WGU ad again. I'll see if I can figure out why it's still running, and get it turned off for good. If you see it again, please let me know... -- [[User:Toughpigs|Danny]] ([[User talk:Toughpigs|talk]]) 00:56, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

== Elita One ==

Could you delete [[Elita One]] so the G1 character page can be moved there? We have three Elita characters, and none of them are parsed the same way. The G1 character has a space with the word "One", Movie has a dash with the word, and Animated has a dash with the digit. Suffixes are only used if the page title would be identical without one. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 19:04, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

== Problem with pictures ==

Hey, Steve! I am having problems to upload images, every time i try to do that instead of the image appearing in the page i'm trying to edit, it becomes a page of it's own.
It happened with the "Jesus of the Northstar" image that i tried to put into the Jesus article and to the picture of Makoto Ono.
Was i blocked, banned or something like that? Or is that a common problem?
And sorry for my poor english. It's not my first language. --[[User:akumateukuma|akumateukuma]] 21:37, 20 February
: You need to use code to insert the image you uploaded into the page. You can't upload something "into" an article. <nowiki>[[Image:Filename.jpg]]</nowiki> is the format. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:40, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
: Well, i uploaded images before "into" articles, but it's not happening anymore. But anyway, how exactly i use code, as you mentioned? --[[User:akumateukuma|akumateukuma]] 21:46, 20 February
: Sorry, stupid question. I got it now. Thanks. --[[User:akumateukuma|akumateukuma]] 22:24, 20 February

== Wikia Search? ==

How do I do that? [[User:BUMBLEBEE|The 'Bee :)]] 17:41, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

:What? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 02:04, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

:Wikia search. When you create a user, it says you need to put your real name in to use wikia search. I'm trying to find someone I know and if I'm right, (which I usually am) wikia search is something where you type in someone's real name and then it takes you to their user page if they are a member of this wiki.

P.S. Respond on my talk page. [[User:BUMBLEBEE|The 'Bee :)]] 15:45, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
::Ten bucks says something that rhymes with "mock-muppet". --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 04:09, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

== Questionable Additions ==
Perhaps I'm being preemptively paranoid, but I'm wondering about [[User:Ijordjhifdv|these ]] [[User:Empresselleisa|two]].

== Sockpuppet banning ==

Shouldn't sockpuppet accounts made for evading a ban be given perma-bans so we don't have to deal with that sock again? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:06, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
:In theory if the original account didn't do anything too heinous, a sock should just match the original block. Though personally I'd support extending the original block if you aggravate the situation with a sock. But at least in a perfect world if you were just blocked for a month, and your sock didn't insult Walky's mother, you're no worse off.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 00:16, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
==Head wars==
Please visit the [[Talk:Megatron (Movie)]] page, read the head wars discussion, and give me your answer. Thank you. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 19:36, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

==The Funny has to stop==
I definitly think we should remove to funny talks and add in the info on the pics, what might happen it some other person sees this and thinks its a work of a child. [[User:Black rhino ranger|Black rhino ranger]] 10:05, 17 April 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"> From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</div>

Talk:Tigerhawk

2008-04-17T10:00:28Z

Black rhino ranger: /* Predacon */

==CGI beast mode==
:I appreciate the artsy silhouette, but this article needs one good screencapture of him in beast mode to show what he looked like. There were some differences between toy and show model. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:39, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

==Predacon==
If only they did the same thing to [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] and [[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]].

I was just thinking...since Robot Je-I mean Tigerhawk's beast mode is made up of traits from two separate animals, shouldn't he technically be classified as a Fuzor? -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] 17:20, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
:If he's not called a Fuzor, then he's not a Fuzor. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 18:57, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
::Was he ever actually called a Transmetal 2 in anything besides his box?--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 03:28, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Probably not, but it still counts. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:57, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

==fuzor==
When I when to a TF website, I read something about tigerhawk and it was mentioned to be a transmetal fuzor. [[User:Black rhino ranger|Black rhino ranger]] 10:00, 17 April 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"> From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</div>

Transform and Roll Out

2008-04-16T15:18:02Z

Black rhino ranger: No seriously, Quickstrike mentioned that in Beast Wars and Bulkhead also mentioned that in TF Animated

{{episodenav|animated|1, 2, and 3|season=1|prev=|next=Home Is Where the Spark Is}}

[[Image:TFA_TFandRollout_AutobotHeroes.jpg|thumb|right|350px|''Epic'']]

'''Optimus Prime and his small crew of maintenance Autobots come into possession of the [[AllSpark (Animated)|AllSpark]]. This powerful Cybertronian artifact attracts the attention of the Autobots' long-forgotten enemies, the Decepticons, and sends them all crashing toward a strange, distant planet known as... ''Earth.'''''

'''German Title:''' Trasformieren und Abfahrt

==Detailed synopsis==
===Part 1===

In deep, deep space, [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] watches some old history videos, prompting [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] to complain about him watching that "junk" when the other members of the crew need assistance. Prime wonders if they were designed for more than repairing [[space bridge]]s. The two 'Bots transform into their vehicle modes and head out into the asteroid field.

[[Image:TFA_TFandRollout_TheAllsparkdiscovered.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Well... at least there's no [[mass-shifting]]]]

Outside, [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]], dangling from a high rock by his wrecking ball (and becoming quite queasy in the process), is freed by [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]], who also ends up taking a tumble. Bumblebee complains about the sheer amount of rocks blocking the space bridge node, and one is shattered unexpectedly by [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]]'s throwing star. Prime gives his troops a speech about teamwork (which Prowl moans at theatrically), but at that point the space bridge lights up, sending rocks and Autobots flying. Fancy footwork by Optimus saves each of his teammates from the debris, and a well-aimed grappling line shuts down the bridge. With his subordinates stunned at their leader's skills, Prime is forced to admit he trained at [[Autobot Academy|Cybertron's military academy]]. Bumblebee's query as to what the hell he's doing on a nowhere maintenance assignment is left unanswered as they notice something glowing in the rubble.

Prime clears away the debris to reveal a large, chest-like object. Ratchet is horrified and immediately demands they throw it back into the space bridge, but an alert from [[Teletran 1]] announces the arrival of a signature consistent with the long-lost [[Decepticon]]s. Ratchet then insists they take the object and just get out of there post-haste.

[[Image:TFA_TFandRollout_Decepticonship.jpg|thumb|right|150px|Yes, this ''is'' a scout ship. Way to go, [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Magnanimous.]]]]

On board the ''[[Ark (Animated)|Ark]]'', Ratchet finally reveals what they've found: the [[AllSpark (Animated)|AllSpark]], the source of all Transformer life that was lost centuries ago. Optimus, worried about the oncoming Decepticon signal, contacts the [[Cybertron Elite Guard]] for help. After taking a bit of snark from [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]], Optimus reveals what they found, which shuts Sentinel up fast. Sentinel then puts the crew through to [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]], who tells Optimus Prime to stay put while they send reinforcements... and not to worry about that Decepticon thing. Optimus, considering this to be a really stupid move, orders the crew to start booking it out of there.

[[Image:Ani_crew.JPG|left|thumb|200px|Scotty, engage!]]

This proves wise, as the signal is indeed a Decepticon ship—a [[Nemesis (Animated)|command ship]], in fact. The identification markings are ones that Optimus and Ratchet recognize, meaning its commander can only be one person: [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]], leader of the Decepticons. On board the Decepticon ship, [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]] doubts the AllSpark is aboard the ''Ark'' and declares Megatron a fool. [[Lugnut]] denounces Starscream as a traitor, while [[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]] calls Lugnut an idiot for his blind loyalty and [[Blitzwing (Animated)|Blitzwing]] just acts... well, crazy. The Decepticons continue to bicker at each other until Megatron enters, shutting up all of them. The Decepticons chase the Autobot ship, and Starscream volunteers to board them. Megatron quickly shoots that idea down. Just before he leaves, Starscream wishes his commander "luck" with a pat on the back... affixing a bomb to Megatron in the process.

Megatron makes his way to the ''Ark'' and begins to melt his way through its hull. Optimus uses external manipulator arms to grapple with Megatron, until the bomb detonates, sending the ship careening uncontrollably into a space bridge node, which explodes after they go through the gate. Starscream begins to make a speech declaring himself the new Decepticon leader, but the other three have abandoned ship, noting that the fireball from the space bridge explosion is only getting larger. Too late, Starscream realizes the trouble he's in...

An unknown distance away, the Autobot ship reappears above a [[Earth|small blue and green planet]]. Prime checks on his troops, but Megatron has gotten aboard, having survived the explosion, but at the cost of his right arm. Prime uses his grappling line to shut off the gravity, making it more difficult for Megatron to fight. All five Autobots face off against the Decepticon, but he's too strong (though Prowl does manage to cut off Megatron's damaged arm). Prime and Megatron both end up in the storage bay where the AllSpark is... and as the ship enters the atmosphere, Prime is able to blow the hatch and kick the screaming Megatron out of the ship.

[[Image:TFA_TFandRollout_Arkatmosphere.jpg|thumb|right|150px|[[Beast Wars, Part 1|Oddly familiar.]]]]

On a small farm, a young boy hears a thud and runs to where something has landed in a not-too-distant field. He is shocked to find a robotic head staring lifelessly up at him.

Meanwhile, Prime orders his team into emergency stasis pods to prepare for a crash-landing. He manages to steer the ship away from the city below and gets to a stasis pod just before the ship plunges into [[Lake Erie]].

Fifty years later, Detroit is a city of robots. [[Isaac Sumdac]] is talking to a public school class taking a tour of his facilities, which gets interrupted by Isaac's daughter, [[Sari Sumdac]], and her robot dog, [[Sparkplug (Animated)|Sparkplug]]. As Sari is carted off to her lessons by a [[Tutorbot|robot tutor]], Isaac shows the school kids a nanotech lab, just in time to witness a roach infused with microbots grow out of control and start consuming everything in sight. Isaac tries to keep things calm, but the monster bursts out of the lab...

===Part 2===
[[Image:TFA_TFandRollout_Firefighters_monster.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Yeah, watering it will surely stop the beast.]]

The monster continues to grow, absorbing just about everything it touches to increase its size and power. In the process, it destroys a lot of the factory. [[Captain Fanzone]], the S.W.A.T team, the fire department, ambulances, and robot drones arrive, but the creature absorbs several of the responding vehicles, too. Fanzone uses a bazooka-type weapon and destroys the beast, despite Sumdac's objection. This protest proves well-founded, as the remnants of the creature start flowing back together again, save for one piece that drops into the nearby lake and works its way down to the ''Ark'', its nanites seeking the absorbable technology there. It infiltrates via a small breach in the outer hull, but thankfully, the ship's intruder alert systems are functional and awaken the Autobots before any damage is done. Examining the situation, they decide to have Teletran 1 give them Earth forms so they can blend in and help out. Everyone deploys except Ratchet, who remains behind to analyze the sample of invading material.

[[Image:TFA_TFandRollout_Autobots.jpg|thumb|right|200px|[[Avengers]], ASSEMBLE!]]

During the fight, Bulkhead and Bumblebee spot Sari trying to wrest her security key from Sparkplug's mouth. Mistaking which is owner and which is pet, they approach her, but Bulkhead's greeting only scares her away. She quickly gets nabbed by the monster, but Bumblebee saves her, earning her trust and friendship. Prowl attempts to take on the bug-slug by himself, against Prime's orders, and gets absorbed. Prime orders Ratchet to join them in battle to save Prowl, but the old veteran insists that finding a "cure" code to neutralize the nanites' programming makes more sense than coming out and getting trashed. A somewhat chastened Prime agrees, and Ratchet soon delivers the goods. However, the new program must be uploaded by direct contact{{m-}}meaning from inside the monster. This means the smallest, fastest one of them has to do it. Bumblebee reluctantly takes on the task. The beast has been using some of Prowl's absorbed intelligence and comm link tech, though, so it knows what they're planning and is now smart enough to fight back. Despite this, Bumblebee succeeds in delivering the code, and the bug dissolves into a dusty shower of deactivated nanites. Prowl is soon uncovered, but he's suffered grave wounds and must be taken back to the ''Ark'' for repairs. Sari pesters Bumblebee to be taken along, and her new friend reluctantly agrees, since there's no time to make her go away quietly.

[[Image:TFA_TFandRollout_Sari_followedmehome.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Bumblebee, having a pet is a big responsibility.]]

Once on board, Sari's refusal to stay still and quiet causes 'Bee some embarrassment. He quickly and discreetly ejects her into a ventilation port and joins the others. However, the port opens onto a shaft that takes Sari right to the chamber where the AllSpark is being kept. Curious, she touches it, and it reacts to her, sending its energies into her security card key and reconfiguring it into a key of another sort entirely. Prime finds her almost immediately thereafter, but with no time left to spare away from Prowl, he has to bring her back with him to the repair table. Ratchet's prognosis is bleak, but Sari's AllSpark-charged key abruptly reacts, glowing and tugging her toward Prowl. Bumblebee, seeming to grasp what's happening, helps her onto the table, and as she approaches, her key reshapes itself to fit into a slot on Prowl's chest. She inserts it, and with a burst of energy, the Autobot ninja is whole again. The Autobots then take Sari home and, after a brief misunderstanding, are made heroes and are even invited to a ceremony.

In outer space, Starscream sits aboard the damaged but functional Decepticon ship, babbling that he will find the AllSpark, even though he's been attempting it on his own for the last fifty solar cycles. The ship's computers then detect the traces of AllSpark-like energy in action, and Starscream learns where the Autobots are...

===Part 3===
[[Image:Sariprime.jpg|right|thumb|150px|INSERT WHAT WHERE?!]]

The Autobots are later seen trying to fit in. Bulkhead gets firsthand experience in traffic jams, some birds mistake Prowl for the statue of the [[wikipedia:Hazen S. Pingree|bald guy]] next to him, Bumblebee learns how organics fuel up, and Ratchet can't get a stasis nap without getting a dozen or so parking tickets. Optimus Prime remarks that the Autobots are programmed to respect life, which they always understood to stem from the AllSpark, but as organics are life, they must respect and protect them too. Optimus also expresses curiosity about how little organics are made. Sari's whispered explanation leaves him rather... shocked. The Autobots make a new home base out of a building Sari's dad got out of a merger, an abandoned auto factory that Bumblebee describes as a real fixer-upper{{m-}}a REAL fixer-upper. All of a sudden, they get alerted to a fire. The Autobots proceed to douse the blaze and save its victims, no problem, unaware they are being watched by Starscream.

The next day, during the inauguration ceremony for the Sumdac Fully Automated Rapid Transit System (F.A.R.T.S., for short), Starscream enters Earth's atmosphere and takes on a group of fighter jets. He destroys all but one, which he scans. As the civilians and Autobots watch the aerial display of the Crimson Angels, Isaac Sumdac notices there is an extra jet present that he didn't hire. That one jet then leaves the formation and streaks toward the ceremony platform, where it transforms into Starscream, who fires his null-ray cannons at the Autobots.

After a short fight, which the Autobots lose, Starscream knocks out Bumblebee and takes him, Isaac, the mayor, and Capt. Fanzone hostage in the F.A.R.T.S. train, flying it to the top of a very tall tower. He demands that the Autobots deliver the AllSpark if they want him to release the train car. The Autobots don't trust him, but don't want to risk human lives, so Sari offers a plan, but they ignore her. She continues to tell a sob story until the Autobots listen. The Autobots proceed with her plan, and Prowl and Sari fly up to the transit pod to rescue the hostages while the other Autobots keep Starscream busy. Once Starscream realizes what's happening, he takes a brief beating but recovers quickly. Starscream then throws the train{{m-}}thus keeping his end of the deal{{m-}}with Sari, Prowl, and Bumblebee on top of/in it. Between Bumblebee's agility and Prowl's thrusters, Sari is rescued and the train lands without much damage. The Autobots then challenge Starscream to a friendly game of Keep Away, during which Starscream almost gets the AllSpark, but Bulkhead gets it instead, because he said he got it. A furious Starscream unleashes a devastating, prolonged (as in nearly 12 seconds) null-ray blast on the Autobots, briefly knocking them all senseless.

[[Image:TFA_TFandRollout_Prime_SS_Allsparkactivates.jpg|thumb|left|150px|In the old days, [[Stan Bush|The Touch]] would have started playing now.]]

With the Autobots down, Starscream takes the AllSpark from Optimus and blows a couple of blocks of Detroit right off the map. Not ready to give up, Optimus climbs all the way up a building to get it back from Starscream, which Starscream doesn't see coming because he was too busy gloating. After a quick back-and-forth exchange of possessing it, both grab it at the same time. As they struggle, the AllSpark opens and emits a strange energy wave that blasts Starscream away.

The explosion has left Prime dangling precariously, and he takes a tremendous plummet to the pavement. He notes weakly that he now knows what it feels like to be a hero, then dies, but Sari uses her AllSpark key to revive him.<ref>[[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|This is something of an Optimus Prime record]]: Dead after only three episodes, revived a mere 75 seconds later. Way to go.</ref> The Autobots later go about fixing up Detroit, earning the enduring gratitude of the citizenry. Professor Sumdac is also grateful, for the Autobots saved him and Sari, but he fears what will happen if the Autobots—not to mention the rest of the world{{m-}}were to discover the source of his robotic empire.

Unseen by Sumdac, one of the [[Sensors#Optics|optics]] of his source of technology glows in a darkened room. Megatron still functions...

==Stats==

*'''Written by:''' [[Marty Isenberg]]
*'''Directed by:''' [[Matt Youngberg]], [[Yutaka Kagawa]], [[Minoru Yamaoka]], [[Makoto Fuchigami]]
*'''Original airdate:''' December 26, 2007

===Featured characters===
(''Numbers indicate order of appearance.)''
{|border=5 cellpadding=5 cellspacing=5 align=center style="border:#800000"

! style="background:#FFEEEE" | [[Autobots]]
! style="background:#EEEEFE" | [[Decepticons]]
! style="background:antiquewhite" | [[Human|Humans]]
|-
| style="background:#FFEEEE" valign="top" |
*[[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] (1)
*[[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] (2)
*[[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] (3)
*[[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] (4)
*[[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] (5)
*[[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]] (6)
*[[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]] (7)

| style="background:#EEEEFE" valign="top" |
*[[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]] (12)
*[[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]] (8)
*[[Lugnut]] (9)
*[[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]] (10)
*[[Blitzwing (Animated)|Blitzwing]] (11)

| style="background:antiquewhite" valign="top" |
*[[Isaac Sumdac]] (13)
*[[Daniel (Animated)|Daniel]] (14)
*[[Sari Sumdac]] (15)
*[[Captain Fanzone]] (16)
|}

==Quotes==
"Do you ever get the feeling that you were programmed for more than just repairing space bridges?" 
"I got a diagnostic program that will delete that feeling like a bad line of code."
:—'''Optimus Prime's''' dreams are crushed into a fine powder by '''Ratchet'''.

'''Starscream''': Megatron is a fool who's been chasing a ghost for centuries...I seriously doubt we'll find this "AllSpark" on board such an ''insignificant'' vessel. 
'''Lugnut''': ''Traitor!'' Megatron is wise! Megatron is bold! Megatron will return the Decepticons to Cybertron and... 
'''Blackarachnia''': ... and wipe our homeland clean of the stench of Autobot tyranny, blah-dee blah blah blah! Did you memorize that speech, Lugnut? Or is it just hardwired into that thick, one-track processor of yours? 
''[An ice beam freezes Blackarachnia's forearm]'' 
'''Calm Blitzwing''': As usual, Blackarachnia, your demeanor is as unpleasant as that accursed organic mode of yours. 
'''Blackarachnia''': Blow it out your [[Anatomic euphemism#Actuator|actuator]], three-face. ''[Shatters the ice around forearm]'' 
''[Blitzwing switches to his angry face]'' 
'''Angry Blitzwing''': De name is Blitzving, insect! Remember it! 'Cause it's de last t'ing you're gonna hear before I— 
''[switches to crazy face]'' 
'''Crazy Blitzwing''': —express my feelings in song! De itzy bitzy spider... 
:—Decepticon camaraderie at its finest.

"What do you want now, Starscream?" 
''[Starscream attaches an explosive onto Megatron's back.]'' 
"Only to wish you luck, my liege." 
"I do not believe... in ''luck''". 
''[Megatron transforms and leaves.]'' 
"Neither... do I..." 
:—'''Megatron''' is arrogant, '''Starscream''' is treacherous. [[Megatron (G1)|Some]] [[Starscream (G1)|things]] [[Megatron (Armada)|never]] [[Starscream (Armada)|change]].

"'''Yes!''' ...right then. Solemn face, solemn face."
:—'''Starscream''' watches Megatron explode, then composes himself before going to tell the Decepticons he's their new leader.

'''Bulkhead''': Hi there, little creature. My name's Bulkhead. Did you lose your owner-bot? 
'''Sari''':... AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!! 
'''Bumblebee''': AAAAHHH! That thing must be armed with some sort of high-frequency sonic weapon! 
''[Sari runs off screaming]'' 
'''Bulkhead''': I think it's scared. Don't worry, little creature! I'm not gonna hurt you! 
''[Sari is grabbed by the robot-slug]'' 
'''Bumblebee''': But that thing might!
:—'''Bulkhead''' and '''Bumblebee''' forget about the Prime Directive.

"Hi, I'm Bumblebee!" 
"I'm Sari." 
"Oh, don't be, I like my name."
:—'''Bumblebee''' and '''Sari''' introduce themselves.

"Uh...am I going to be able to ''breathe'' down there?" 
"Oh, sure! What's 'breathe'?"
:—'''Sari''' takes a trip underwater with '''Bumblebee'''.

'''Optimus Prime''' ''[to Sari]'': How did you get aboard this ship? 
'''Bumblebee''': It followed me home... Can I keep it? 
'''Sari''': Hey, I'm not an "it", I'm a "she"! 
'''Optimus''' ''[to Bumblebee]'': So, I suppose you have an explanation? 
'''Bumblebee''': Actually, I'm narrowing it down to my top five. 
:—'''Optimus''' discovers '''Bumblebee'''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s new friend.

"It's okay, they're friendly! Well, except for [[Ratchet (Animated)|the red and white one]], he's kinda grumpy! But other than that..."
:—'''Sari''' plays ambassador.

'''Optimus Prime''': But how is it you're able to make these new, smaller organics? 
'''Sari''': (Whispers) 
'''Optimus''': o_0 
:—'''Optimus''' learns that there are some things that you can't unhear.

"Ratchet, think fast!" 
"Oh crud." 
:{{m-}}'''Optimus Prime''' and '''Ratchet''', as the game of keep-away starts.

{{-}}

==Other notes==
===Animation and/or technical glitches===
* Megatron's vehicle mode was depicted flying upside-down, or backwards, or possibly both. To be fair, in Space, there is no such thing as up or down, thanks to the whole 'no gravity' thing.

* As Starscream tackles Optimus Prime through a building as the Autobot tries to escape with the AllSpark, Optimus' axe is missing from Starscream's left wing. It reappears moments later for Optimus to retrieve it.

===Continuity errors===
* The train Starscream blasts from the tower falls toward the ground very, very slowly.

*In at least one scene, Starscream's Earth-form wing is shown with a spike, in the same manner as his Cybertronian body.

*Sumdac is using Megatron's hand as a chair. However, he seems to be using the right hand, which was blown up by Starscream. (It ''could'' have fallen off the ''Ark'', as it was still clinging to the hull when last seen, but that seems unlikely.)

===Transformers references===
*The title of the episode itself is a [[Roll out|reference to Transformers lore past]].
*Footage from the [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|G1 cartoon]] episodes "[[War Dawn]]" and "[[More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]" is used as history tapes detailing the events of the first Great War, millions of years prior. [[Canon|This]] has been confirmed as pure fanwank, and should not be taken as linking animated to G1, continuity wise.

*Sari's robotic dog [[Sparkplug (Animated)|Sparkplug]] is likely named after either [[Sparkplug Witwicky]] from G1, the Armada Mini-Con [[Sparkplug (Armada)|Sparkplug]], or both.
[[Image:Spikecarlydanielanimated.jpg|right|thumb|150px|Twenty years later, and they're still overdressed.]]
*Characters resembling [[Spike Witwicky|Spike]], [[Carly]], and [[Daniel Witwicky]] are seen at a hot dog stand, purchasing some sort of futuristic bunless wieners-on-a-stick.

*The ''Animated'' Autobots are [[Infiltration|not the first]] to use a starship parked at the bottom of one of the Great Lakes as their headquarters.

*When Optimus Prime dies, his body fades to grays, just as [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Generation 1 Optimus Prime]] did in ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''. His spark chamber opens in much the same manner as well.

*The baby carriage carrying the [[Soviet_Union|baby with the russian hat]] bears some resemblance to [[Wheelie]].

*Teletran 1 (spelled with only one "a" in this universe) dispatches a small satellite very similar to the [[Sky Spy]] satellite used on occasion by the Autobots in the ''Generation 1'' cartoon. The glowing energy "boxes" with which it scans vehicles for the Autobots to transform into are lifted wholesale out of "[[More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]".

*[[Sari Sumdac's key]] bears a strong resemblance to the [[Key to Vector Sigma]].

* When bulkhead Mention Boss bot to Optimus Prime, this was a reference to one of [[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]]'s quotes from [[Beast wars]]

===Miscellaneous trivia===
* In this episode, [[Tutor Bot]] tries to teach Sari about the [[Wikipedia:Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act|Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act]] (a major economic blunder of the 1930s).
* When Prowl gets birdpooped on, he is standing next to a statue of [[wikipedia:Hazen S. Pingree|Hazen S. Pingree]], four-term mayor of Detroit and one-time governor of Michigan. In real life, the statue is located in Detroit's Grand Circus Park.
* A refurbished Michigan Central Station makes an appearance as the site for the dedication of Detroit's rapid transit system. The real-life station (abandoned since the '80s) was featured in the [[Transformers (2007)|2007 live-action movie]].
* When mocking the Autobots, Starscream actually calls Megatron "the great Megatron" without any sarcasm. Apparently, he'll only give a sincere compliment to his leader when he's insulting something else.
* When Optimus comes back to life, he asks, "Is this the [[Well of All Sparks]]?" and Sari answers, "No, it's Detroit." This is an allusion to the movie ''Field of Dreams'' when Shoeless Joe Jackson (Ray Liotta) asks Ray Kinsella (Kevin Costner) "Is this heaven?" and Ray answers "No, it's Iowa."

== Footnote ==
{{reflist}}

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Talk:Lockdown (Animated)

2008-04-16T14:26:21Z

Black rhino ranger: /* Hook arm */

I ''THINK'' Lockdown is the bounty hunter, and Lugnut's the decipticon Bulkhead.

Bio from the box Scan - '''<nowiki>[removed illegal link]</nowiki>''' Thanks to the Allspark.
--[[user:invisiblemoose|invisiblemoose]] 9:41, 3 December 2007 (NZ)

:Please see [[Help:Coming soon]]. Those toys aren't supposed to be released yet, so information gleamed from auctions of possibly-stolen copies of them should not be added to Teletraan I. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 21:03, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

:: Talk about stupid rules. What's the point of it? If we update something that Hasbro want's us to remove, we can simply do that. Until then, why not update any new rumors that we could just find? --[[User:Hepathos|Hepathos]] 21:23, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

:::Rumors are stupid hobby-poison and have no place here. But Lockdown's bio is not a "rumor," since we do know what it is. Info from stolen items, especially items that were about to be released anyway, I could personally see going either way--but it is policy here that such are forbidden. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 21:42, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

:::If by 'about to be released' you mean June 2008.... --[[User:invisiblemoose|invisiblemoose]] 11:39, 3 December 2007 (NZ)

::The same can be said for [[Prowl (Animated)]] when that was updated MONTHS ago. There was some reluctance, but it was updated anyway. --[[User:invisiblemoose|invisiblemoose]] 11:16, 3 December 2007 (NZ)

==image captions==
So, who's for making all his captions Bishop quotes? if the picture allows for it of course...--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 16:22, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
:Death's Head quotes would seem more appropriate, yes?{{unsigned|72.138.15.186}}
::Eh, we can mix and match and see what works.
::Please indent any responses, as they make it easier to follow a conversational flow. They also tell the wiki interface to honor single carriage returns. Otherwise, unless you use a line break (<nowiki> </nowiki>) or 2+ returns, your text will continue on the same line as the preceding text. Oh—and please sign your Talk page posts.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 08:11, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

===Deaths Head homage?===
He does appere a homage to Deaths Head, his hand changes into weaponery and his to has the "cleached teath look to it. worth metioning? [[User:Editoroflife|Editoroflife]] 08:29, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

== New toy image ==

It's from Transformers.com, so it's official. [[User:BUMBLEBEE|The 'Bee :)]] 16:32, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

==EMP generator==

I just saw that the EMP generator can be removed from lockdown's arm with a simple peg in the same shape of ratchet's scar, so i'm almost sure that it can be atatched to ratchet.--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 16:06, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Yay! :D [[User:BUMBLEBEE|The 'Bee :)]] 15:54, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:Yep,you can see it on peaugh's youtube channel,no direct linking though since we're not "allowed" to know this. [[User:Rhinox555|Decepticon Rhinox]] 13:55, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

==Size==

Why is the size changed from leader to voyager? next to my movie ratchet, lockdown is a head taller, so it schould be changed to "almost as big as a leader class toy" or it schould be changed to "bigger then a voyager class toy."
:It is being sold at Voyager class. Being larger than ''another'' Voyager by a head does not make it a different size class.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:52, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
:: Was it not deluxe class?--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 15:56, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
::: Then why are you claiming the size was changed from leader to voyager? If you're just talking about the line that says he's "nearly as big as a voyager" that still puts him a long way from a leader-class as he's only ''taller'' not ''bigger''.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:02, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
:::: Oh, then i said it wrong, sorry. i just wanted to note that for a deluxe class toy, that he's bigger then most voyager class toys, putting him closer to the size of a leader class toy.--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 16:14, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::No, he's ''taller'' than many Voyager class toys. Height has nothing to do with it. Size classes are determined by two main things: complexity and mass. That's why Cybertron Metroplex is a Leader instead of a Supreme and Animated Bulkhead is a Voyager instead of a Deluxe. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 16:19, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::There's a big size gulf between voyagers and leaders, due to the omitted ultra class.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:17, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
::::: I don't know how tall the animated toyline leader class toys are, so i compared him to movie optimus prime, he's about a head smaller. I just want it to be noted that for a deluxe, he has an impressive size.(and excuse me wen i mix bigger and taller, i mix those up often.)--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 16:27, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::: Which Movie Prime? If it's the one where the truck nose forms a backpack and the robot chest windows are ''not'' the truck mode windows, you've got the Voyager Prime. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 16:59, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::Considering the context of the discussion, I'm guessing Grand-majin means the Leader-class Movie Prime, especially since he says Lockdown's taller than Movie Ratchet.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 17:05, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::: yeah, i was talking about the leader class prime.--[[User:Grandmajin|Grand-majin]] 17:45, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

==Hook arm==
Since the hook arm is detachable and dosent match his colours scheem, is anyone thinking that this might just be like the EMP generator, can also go on annother toy, i think maybe, oil slick? Maybe we're gona get various toys later on with parts the detach and can be added to Lockdown, his chainsaw arm, ect? [[User:Editoroflife|Editoroflife]] 02:20, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
::Being a hook, it could be a piece for one of the constructicons or Oil Slick( same color pattern)
The hook's color scheme is different to make it match up well in car mode,it detaches because it's a detachable weapon,plus he appears that way in flashbacks so you'll have his cybertron mode and earth mode in one toy. [[User:Rhinox555|Decepticon Rhinox]] 13:57, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

==Decepticon?==
He Mentioned he wasn't one of them. Why do you Identified as a decepticon. [[User:Black rhino ranger|Black rhino ranger]] 14:26, 16 April 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"> From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</div>

Along Came a Spider

2008-04-16T13:51:41Z

Black rhino ranger: /* Miscellaneous trivia */

{{episodenav|animated|9|season=1|prev=Nanosec (episode)|next=Sound and Fury}}

[[Image:Blackarach anim beast.jpg|right|thumb|300px|[[Wikipedia:Spider-Woman_%28Jessica_Drew%29#Spider-Woman|To know her is to fear her!]]]]

'''Bumblebee and Bulkhead's first Halloween turns even spookier when they encounter a giant spider that turns out to be the deadly Decepticon Blackarachnia.'''

==Synopsis==
[[Sari Sumdac|Sari]] introduces [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]], [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] and [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] to the concept of [[Halloween]], starting with selecting pumpkins. As she explains the idea of choosing just the right costume, Prime's attention is distracted by a large black widow spider decoration. He remembers back to his academy days...

[[Image:Alongcameaspiderthreefriends.jpg|left|thumb|250px|"So once again, we find that evil of the past seeps into the present like salad dressing through cheap wax paper, mixing memory and desire."]]
''On an organic world, Optimus and his friend '''Elita-1''' admire the strange webbing stretching across the high rocks, not knowing what it is, until [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]] calls to them to hurry up. Optimus cautions about the fact that such worlds are normally considered off-limits to Autobots, but there's supposedly a real Decepticon ship somewhere in the area. Elita's there for the historical value, but Sentinel just wants to get his hands on the [[energon]] cache that must be in it. Prime's still wary of potential punishment should they get caught, but figures he has to keep the other two from getting in over their heads. Sentinel insists that never happens{{m-}}right before the ground crumbles under their feet, sending all three plunging into a deep cavern. Strange, skittering noises echo from its dark reaches. Optimus activates his shoulder-light to see...''

Bulkhead snaps Prime's attention back to the present by donning a bedsheet (which just covers his head) and going "Boo," startling his leader. Prime claims a ghost from his past just has him jumpy, then stalks off.

Back at the Autobot base, Sari critiques Bumblebee and Bulkhead's costumes, but says her own costume is only one surprise planned for the night. Noticing Prime lost in thought, she uses her key to activate one of the car plant's cranes, swinging another spider decoration in his face. The unexpected sight of it gives Prime a bad flashback, and he quickly hacks the fake spider to bits. He admonishes Sari for making frivolous use of the All Spark Key, and she counters about him needlessly using his axe. Prime stares down at the remains of the decoration, and his thoughts travel back again...

''As Prime, Elita and Sentinel walk through the cavern, Sentinel enthuses about the rich hoard of energon he's sure they'll find soon. Prime shushes him as he hears something, and soon all three are casting their lights about, trying to pinpoint the skittering. The source reveals itself as an enormous, alien spider, which quickly traps Elita with some webbing. As Prime fights it off, Sentinel frees her with his charged shield, but the spider abruptly takes him down. Elita starts using her special power-download ability, but Optimus, holding back the spider, tells her it won't work on organics. She instead borrows the unconscious Sentinel's shield power and shield itself, using them to defend herself, then to bring down a huge stalactite to impale the spider. As Sentinel wakes up and Elita returns his shield, Prime says that it's not worth staying around, be it for history or energon. Sentinel still insists on one good reason to leave, and he gets three when another trio of giant spiders drop down to confront them. Sentinel quickly puts up his shield's energy barrier, covering Prime and Elita's retreat. Prime rolls out, and Elita follows, calling his name...''

[[Image:Saricostume.jpg|right|thumb|100px|Arise, Sarimus Prime.]]
Prime suddenly becomes aware of Sari calling his name to show off her costume{{m-}}a costume of him. He doesn't appreciate her vocal impersonation of him, and declines to join the trio on their trick-or-treat outing.

As Sari and the two Autobots progress though a local neighborhood, Bumblebee is a bit spooked by the atmosphere. Sari reminds him it's all pretend...unaware they're being tracked by an enormous spider traveling over the rooftops. As she coaches them through their first actual "trick or treat," Bumblebee spots the spider watching them and freaks out, but it's gone before anyone else sees it. Sari teases him for being more timid than Optimus, but 'Bee protests he knows the difference between a fake decoration and a real giant spider. Listening in from headquarters, Prime has Bumblebee clarify what he saw, then heads out to meet them, advising them to stay put. As Prime [[rolls out]], his thoughts roll back...

''Racing through the caverns, Prime reaches the wreckage of a Decepticon warship. Separated from the other two, he heads inside, hoping to find them there. Instead, he finds an impressive stash of energon cubes, just as Sentinel predicted. He also finds an impressive stash of giant spider eggs. As the spiderlings hatch and start attacking, Prime gets stuck on some webbing, but Elita shows up in time to help. As they fight to escape from more full-grown spiders, Prime has Elita borrow his grappler ability. They bring down a huge stalactite through the ship's ruined overhead, grappling their way out as the energon detonates below them. However, Elita's download ability times out just then, and she goes plunging back too fast for Prime to catch her. Sentinel arrives on top of the ship as she plummets into the hold, but knowing the energon is going to blow any second, Prime grapples himself and Sentinel to safety rather than risk going after Elita just then. Once they break the surface, Prime scans for Elita's energy signature, but doesn't find it. A furious Sentinel blames everything on Prime.''

In the present, still en route to Sari and company's location, Prime swears he won't let it happen again. Meanwhile, Bumblebee stresses that they have to stay vigilant until Prime arrives{{m-}}even as Sari is yanked out from under them by the giant spider. Bumblebee quickly cuts Sari free, but as he and Bulkhead surround the spider, it transforms into a female robot who calls herself '''[[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]]'''. Sari's not too surprised or impressed by her femininity, but it makes a much bigger impression on Bulkhead{{m-}}right up to the point Blackarachnia stabs him with two of her spider legs, knocking him out. She quickly gives Bumblebee the same treatment, then tells Sari they should go, now that Sari's safe. Sari protests the two Autobots are her friends, and Blackarachnia apologizes, pretending she can't tell which robots are good or bad on Earth. As Sari futilely tries to revive Bulkhead with her All Spark Key, Blackarachnia notes that the organic nature of her venom precludes that solution, since the All Spark doesn't affect organics. She offers to try helping the Autobots if Sari will just hand her the key, but her ruse is interrupted when Prime lassos her legs out from under her. Blackarachnia appears shocked to see him, but quickly frees herself and starts fighting back{{m-}}using Bumblebee's stingers and Bulkhead's strength. Instead of borrowing any of Prime's powers, though, she judo-throws him across the street, then kidnaps Sari.

Prime desperately pursues the pair across the rooftops. He catches up, stuns BA with a faceful of foam, then grapples Sari free. Despite this respite and Sari's warning, Blackarachnia still catches Prime half-unaware. He fights back, but she dodges him constantly, claiming to know all his textbook Autobot Academy moves. Prime wonders if he knows her, and she berates him for forgetting his friends{{m-}}even if he remembered Sentinel. Prime is stunned to realize he's facing Elita-1. She finally relates what really happened that day:

''Trapped in the ship and surrounded by the spiders, Elita tries desperately to download their abilities. Instead, she is infected with their venom, and it mutates her into a freak, a half-organic, half-robotic being.''

[[Image:TFA_ep9_Optimus_and_Blackarachnia_rooftop.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Never liked the [[Silverbolt (BW)|Bird-dog]] anyway.]]

Prime realizes that her half-organic nature is what masked her energy signature from his scans. BA sneers that if he'd known and saved her, she'd just have been dismantled and examined on some lab table on Cybertron. Prime reproves her for joining the Decepticons, but she counters that at least she knows where she stands with them. She webs up Prime and snatches Sari's key, certain that if anything can purge her organic half, it can. She plugs it into herself, but the unleashed energies begin causing all organic life in range, including Sari, to wither and sicken. Prime breaks free, but before he can stop Blackarachnia, she grabs up Sari and throws her off the roof. Sari snags a flagpole long enough for Bumblebee and Bulkhead to save her, leaving Prime free to deal with Blackarachnia. She collapses on her own, though. Prime surmises her spark can't survive without her organic half, but she's too weak to pull out the key and stop the reaction. Prime forces through the energy barrier around her and removes it for her, restoring the organic life in the area to normal. As he helps her up, Blackarachnia asks him to go, not wanting to be seen like that. Still calling her Elita, Prime asks her to come with them, promising his group will find a cure, and allow him to earn back her trust. She seems to respond positively, but it's another sham. Blackarachnia stabs him unconscious and leaves, vowing it will be a long time before she trusts another Autobot, especially him.

Later, Prime returns Sari's key. She thanks him and admits he was right{{m-}}maybe it's time she gave the key a rest. Bumblebee trundles in painfully, still damaged from his fall after catching Sari, and asks if she could use it once more. Bulkhead asks who the bug-bot lady was, and Prime responds it was someone he should never have left behind. Elsewhere, Blackarachnia stands on a rooftop, gazing at the moon and sobbing over her fate.

==Stats==

*'''Written by:''' [[Marty Isenberg]]
*'''Directed by:''' [[Matt Youngberg]], [[Irineo Maramba]], [[Yutaka Kagawa]]
*'''Original airdate:''' February 16, 2008

===Featured characters===
(''Numbers indicate order of appearance.)''
{|border=5 cellpadding=5 cellspacing=5 align=center style="border:#800000"

! style="background:#FFEEEE" | [[Autobot]]s
! style="background:#EEEEFE" | [[Decepticon]]s
! style="background:antiquewhite" | [[Human]]s
|-
| style="background:#FFEEEE" valign="top" |
*[[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead ]] (2)
*[[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] (3)
*[[Optimus Prime (Animated) |Optimus Prime]] (4)
*[[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Elita-1]] (Flashback) (5)
*[[Sentinel Prime (Animated) |Sentinel Prime]] (Flashback) (6)
| style="background:#EEEEFE" valign="top" |
*[[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]] (7)
| style="background:antiquewhite" valign="top" |
*[[Sari Sumdac]] (1)
|}

==Quotes==
"Beautiful, isn't it?" 
"Yeah...what is it?" 
"I have no idea." 
:{{m-}}'''Elita-1''' and '''Optimus Prime''' admire the webs.

'''Optimus''': Somebody's gotta keep you two walking malfunctions from getting in over your heads. 
'''Sentinel''': We ''never'' get in over our heads. 
''[The ground crumbles underneath them, causing them to fall into a cavern. Optimus gives Sentinel a look.]'' 
'''Sentinel''': What? 
:{{m-}}'''Optimus Prime''' and '''Sentinel Prime'''

'''Bumblebee''': ''[Bad Slavic accent]'' Velcome. I am Count Dracubot. I vant to drink your motor oil. 
'''Bulkhead''': Hey, guys! I finally found something big enough for my ghost costume. 
''[Fumes surround his feet, causing Sari to cough]'' 
'''Sari''': Bulkhead, where did you get that sheet? 
'''Bulkhead''': It was just draped over some house. Weird place to put a bed sheet. 
'''Sari''': Oh, that's not a bedsheet. It's a fumigation tent. 
'''Bulkhead''': Really...? What's a fumigation tent? 
''[As well as the fumes, Bulkhead's feet are now covered in dead cockroaches.]''
:{{m-}}'''Sari''' sees the Autobots' costumes.

"I've got a good feeling about this. Any cycle now, we're gonna be overflowing with rich, All Spark-infused, energon-y goodness!" 
"Did you really just say 'energon-y goodness'?" 
:{{m-}}'''Sentinel Prime's''' speech <strike>tick</strike>{{m-}}er, tic bemuses '''Elita-1'''.

'''Sari''': Optimus! Check out my costume! 
''[Camera reveals that Sari is Optimus Prime]'' 
'''Sari''': ''[Imitating Optimus]'' Oh, look at me. I'm Optimus Prime. I'm scared of spiders. 
''[Bumblebee and Bulkhead chuckle]'' 
'''Optimus''': That's ''not'' what I sound like...is it? 
'''Bumblebee''': Last chance to join us, Boss Bot. 
'''Optimus''': Thanks, but I'll pass. Just be careful out there, all right? 
'''Sari''': Don't worry. I'll keep these guys out of trouble. ''[Imitating Optimus]'' Transform and roll out! 
''[Optimus gives Sari a look]'' 
'''Sari''': Couldn't resist. 
:{{m-}}'''Sari''' and the Autobots roast '''Optimus Prime'''.

'''Bumblebee''': Who are you? 
'''Bulkhead''': What are you? 
'''Sari''': Duh. She's a girl. 
:{{m-}}The gang meets '''Blackarachnia'''.

"This is all ''your fault!''" 
:{{m-}}'''Sentinel Prime''', blaming Optimus for the disaster that happened on an excursion he suggested. Jerk.

"So, who ''was'' that bug-bot lady?" 
"Someone I never should have left behind." 
:{{m-}}'''Bulkhead''' and '''Optimus Prime''' talk some heavy stuff.

==Other notes==

===Animation and/or technical glitches===
* Shortly after Sentinel says that he and Optimus should go back for Elita when the Decepticon ship explodes, his nose and forehead are painted silver, like Optimus.
===Continuity errors===

===Transformers references===
* In the [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|Generation 1 animated series]], [[Elita One (G1)|Elita One]] was [[Optimus Prime (G1)|G1 Optimus Prime's]] paramour. The ''Animated'' incarnation of the character refrains from attempting to visually homage the original pink-and-white Elita, instead creating a blue-and-yellow pony-tailed character who bears a resemblance to Elita's earlier (pony-tailed) form, [[Ariel]]. Her relationship with Prime is less distinct (it almost appears as if she's ''Sentinel's'' girlfriend at one point), with this episode's flashbacks not suggesting any romantic connection between the two, but the present-day scenes suggesting ''some'' kind of personal tension (though that could be guilt on Prime's part and anger on Elita's).
* Sentinel Prime is depicted here as Optimus Prime's friend and peer, whereas in all other series he's either been Prime's mentor, a superior officer, or a predecessor. In this way it seems the roles of Sentinel and [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]] have been reversed from past continuities.
* With this episode, [[energon cube]]s make their first appearance in Transformers cartoons since ''Beast Wars''. They look ''exactly'' like they did in the Generation 1 cartoon, which even ''Beast Wars'' didn't pull off.

===Real-world references===
* Bulkhead's "ghost" costume, with its constant cloud of pesticides at the bottom, coincidentally resembles "Pig-Pen's" costume from ''[[wikipedia:It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown|It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown]].''
* Judging how Blackarachnia [[Spider-Man|can swing from a thread]], the Autobots had best take a look overhead.

===Miscellaneous trivia===
* This is the first episode to not feature [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] or [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]].
* In a flashback, prior to Blackarachnia's transformation, a helmet can be seen sitting in a corner of the energon cubes. In the present day, she appears to be wearing it, possibly to hide the extent of her transformation.
* This episode makes a point of how Sari has been overusing her key previously, and that it can't be used to cure every TF injury. The writers evidently anticipated that reaction from the audience.
* Referring to himself as "vertically challenged," Bumblebee seems to be over his height complex, which was such a major point in "[[Total Meltdown]]".
* This is the first time Sentinel Prime has been fully on screen. When he appeared in [[Transform and Roll Out!|Transform and Roll Out]], all that was seen of him was his head.
*This episode explains why Sentinel Prime hates Optimus.
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User talk:Black rhino ranger

2008-04-16T13:50:20Z

Black rhino ranger: /* Headstrong */

Headstrong (G1)

2008-04-16T13:08:38Z

Black rhino ranger: Yes there is, my mum said never mention horny, I thought it wasn't rude but now I know it is

{{picsneeded|Toy}}

:''Headstrong is a [[Decepticon]] in the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
[[Image:Headstrong boxart.gif|thumb|250px|Marching to the beat of his own drummer. Whom he stomped on.]]
You can ''tell'' '''Headstrong''' that a three-foot-thick steel tank is full of dangerously radioactive waste, but it won't do a lick of good if he thinks you've hidden the [[energon]] goodies in it. He'll attack it with his unbreakable ramming head and acid-dripping horn until he's conclusively proven wrong, then retreat with his well-earned wounds to suck his thumb, still convinced deep in his tiny brain that somebody had tricked him.

Despite such mishaps, Headstrong still plugs away. He believes that tenacity can compensate those minor qualities in which he's lacking, such as strength, intelligence, or courage. To his credit, [[Starscream (G1)|not a few of his allies]] seem to subscribe to this philosophy, and Headstrong isn't dead yet.

Best and brightest he may not be, but he's always ready to grab his [[diffraction sword]] and start waving it around. It affects his opponent's optics, so that where they see Headstrong, that's where he ain't. It's unfortunate that his own eyesight isn't much better. A distant foe must beware Headstrong's glowing plasma spheres, which explode on contact. Woe to the one who touches Headstrong's balls!

Headstrong and his fellow [[Predacon (G1)|Predacon]]s can combine to form [[Predaking]], but he'll only do it when ''he'' wants to do it.
{{quote|I'll get there when I'm good and ready!|Headstrong, on when he'll help form Predaking|[[Call of the Primitives]]}}

:''French-Canadian name:'' '''Tête Forte'''
:''Italian name:'' '''Rinox'''

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====

{{noteukonly}}

Headstrong, along with the other Predacons, hunted [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] on orders from [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. {{Storylink|Gone But Not Forgotten!}}

{{charstubfiction}}

====Generation 2====

Headstrong appeared during the Autobot/Decepticon alliance, battling the [[Cybertronian]] Empire. He, [[Weirdwolf]], and the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]]s had lots of fun counting kills and munching metal. {{storylink|Total War}}

===Cartoon continuity===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Ron Feinberg]] (US), ? (Japan)

Headstrong was dispatched to [[Io]] with the other Predacons to steal [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]'s [[transformation cog]]. During the battle, the Predacons combined into Predaking, only to be defeated by [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]]. [[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]] retreated, despite Headstrong's objections. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5}}

Headstrong and the Predacons were next seen guarding [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]'s [[death crystal]] cannon on the planet [[Dredd]]. When the Autobots arrived, Headstrong and Tantrum almost managed to shut [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] up permanently by knocking him into quickmud, but Sky Lynx pulled him to safety. {{Storylink|Chaos}}

On a mission to drain the planet [[Paradron]] of its rich energy resources, the Decepticons managed to conquer its peaceful population with ease. One Paradronian named [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]] got away and brought back an Autobot strike force, however. Once they were spotted, Galvatron ordered Headstrong and [[Brawl]] to man the molecular cannon and blow them away. Both warriors were probably real eager to fire, but once Brawl said it was time to take the shot, Headstrong just had to be difficult and stall a few moments more until he was "good and ready". Decepticons and their personality problems... {{Storylink|Fight or Flee}}

[[Image:Headstrong fist.jpg|thumb|left|200px|OMG!! Headstrong is ''adorable!'']]
When the Predacons later attempted to ambush [[Rodimus Prime]] and his soldiers on Cybertron, their battle was interrupted by a [[Quintesson]] dream machine that surrounded the Transformers with a fog-filled landscape and subjected them to nightmarish torments plucked from the subconscious of [[Daniel Witwicky]]. After [[Springer]] and Razorclaw were carried off by a dragon, the Predacons reluctantly stopped fighting the Autobots long enough to deal with their lost leader. Headstrong was particularly edgy around the Autobots, and warned Rodimus Prime to stay out of his way. Headstrong thought the worst was over when "Galvatron" showed up in a House of Mirrors, not recognizing the unusual size and behavior of his commander. Even after "Galvatron" spontaneously grew several stories taller and began to crush Rodimus and Headstrong in his hands, Headstrong was still pulling the "It's me, Galvatron! Don't you recognize me?!" routine. Pure instinct; no brains. Headstrong's leg was seriously injured by the crushing vise of the false Galvatron's grip, and his damage prevented the Predacons from forming Predaking and continuing the fight with the Autobots after the Quintesson machine was destroyed. {{Storylink|Nightmare Planet}}

Later, Headstrong was among the [[Primitive]]s who were summoned to fight [[Tornedron]]. During the trip to meet [[Oracle (G1)|Primacron's Assistant]], Headstrong, being a wise and intelligent construct, picked a fight with the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]]s, saying "[[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] don't know nothing." [[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]] objected to the opinion of the "stupid Decepticon rhino," and a brawl among the Primitives ensued. It was ended when [[Trypticon]] shook himself to throw the Primitives around. After Sky Lynx and Trypticon had their energy drained, the Primitives split up, fleeing for their lives. Detesting their cowardice, Headstrong declared that he should die fighting, and Razorclaw ordered the Predacons to form Predaking. However, their energy was sucked away, only to be restored when Grimlock destroyed Tornedron. {{storylink|Call of the Primitives}}

===Dreamwave comics continuity===

Headstrong and the Predacons were warlords on ancient Cybertron, exiled from the planet under circumstances unknown. It is believed that Starscream named his [[Predacon (War Within)|Dark Ages faction]] in their honor. Landing on the planet [[Beest]], the Predacons devolved into feral beasts over the years, until Megatron arrived on the planet in recent times and tamed them. He repaired their damaged circuitry, gave the Predacons the combined form of Predaking and, most importantly, programmed them to be loyal only to him. {{Storylink|Welcome to the Jungle}} He then used Headstrong and the others to help him reclaim control of the Decepticons, first by overthrowing Shockwave on Cybertron {{Storylink|Lost and Found}}, and later putting the beat down on Starscream and his brigade on Earth. {{Storylink|The Route of All Evil}}

===Devil's Due ''G.I.Joe Vs. Transformers'' continuity===

===IDW comics continuity===
[[Image:Stormbringer4_DCon_groundforces.jpg|thumb|left|200px|I'll go to robot mode when I ''feel'' like it!]]

Headstrong, in a bizarrely horned tank mode, helped assault the reborn [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]]. That is, until he ran away. A few starblitz torpedoes, and he suddenly chickened out. WUSS! {{storylink|Stormbringer issue 4}}

{{-}}

===Beast Wars===
====''Beast Wars: The Gathering''====
[[Image:Headstrong symbol.png|thumb|right|80px|]]
On Cybertron, a group of five symbols appeared on the walls of a room containing a [[transwarp shunt]] device. The five symbols seemed to represent a lion, a bird, a bull, a rhinoceros, and a tiger. {{storylink|The Gathering, Part 2}}
{{-}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
*'''Headstrong''' (1986)
:''Team ID number'': '''3'''
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-77'''

*'''Predaking''' (1986)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-78'''

===Titanium Series===
*'''Predaking''' (2006?)
:Predaking comes with a FREE molded-on, non-removable, non-transformable Headstrong made of durable [[die-cast]] metal. Bonus!

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Decepticon/Headstrong/headstrong.htm Headstrong at TFU.info]
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Headstrong Headstrong's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

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[[Category: Decepticons]]
[[Category: Generation 1 characters]]
[[Category: Headmasters characters]]
[[Category: Predacons]]
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Angry Archer

2008-04-16T12:07:31Z

Black rhino ranger:

:''Angry Archer is a [[human]] from the [[Transformers Animated]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:AngryArcher01.jpg|thumb|right|250px|"Look, it's the Mad Archer!" "ANG-GU-REE! ANG-GU-REE! I AM THE ANG-GU-REE ARCHER!" "Whatever."]]

One of the human supervillains who menaces [[Detroit]] in the near future, the '''Angry Archer''' bears a strong resemblance to the traditional portrayal of Robin Hood; this includes a cheesy 16th century British accent. The seemingly cybernetic arm (or glove), high-tech arrowheads and glider-pack are new, though. He uses his skills with a bow and arrow in his criminal schemes.

==Fiction==
===Animated cartoon===
:''Vocal thespian:'' [[Jeff Glen Bennett]] (English), [[Kaspar Eichel]] (German)

[[Image:AngryArcher02.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Hunt, hunt, hunt! He's the... Archer-man.]]

The Angry Archer didst reveal himself from within the shadows of the night. Dropping down on a passing horseless carriage, he bade its occupants stand and deliver. Howe'er, the local enforcers of the law didst vex him with their approach. This worried him not, for a swift rescue carriage was passing. Latching on't, he didst away with glee. But, forsooth, the carriage didst [[Transformation|shift form]] to become [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|a metal giant]], who defeated the Archer with reckless abandon.

Whilst the Angry Archer pled that he desired naught but fame and fortune, flying cameras arrived anon to record his humiliating fate. The metal giant then didst mock him most cruelly, advising the Archer he would have to settle for fame. Oh, what a twisted move by the fickle hand of fate. {{storylink|Home Is Where the Spark Is|Home Is Whither Thine Ember Is}}

{{-}}

== Trivia ==
* This character's name and face are a play on Transformers design director [[Aaron Archer]].

* The Angry Archer's arrowhead arsenal <strike>ancludes</strike> '''i'''ncludes....
**Magnetic grappling lines
**Laser cutters
**Steel fists
**Grenades

* He's also kind of a riff on [[wikipedia:Green_Arrow|Green Arrow]] and [[wikipedia:Red_Arrow|other]] [[Wikipedia:Hawkeye|archer-themed]] supercharacters, if you hadn't noticed.

* Angry Archer's voice is Jeff Bennett's "[[wikipedia:John_Cleese|John-Cleese]]-ish" voice, which he's used for characters in other cartoons, including Lord Bravery (Legally, it's ''Lord Smoked Meats and Fishes'') from ''[[wikipedia:Freakazoid!|Freakazoid!]]''.

*[[Professor Princess]] is more of a threat. Sucks to be Angry Archer.

[[Category: Animated characters]]
[[Category: Humans]]
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Transform and Roll Out

2008-04-16T10:09:57Z

Black rhino ranger: /* Transformers references */

Transform and Roll Out

2008-04-16T10:09:15Z

Black rhino ranger: /* Transformers references */

{{episodenav|animated|1, 2, and 3|season=1|prev=|next=Home Is Where the Spark Is}}

[[Image:TFA_TFandRollout_AutobotHeroes.jpg|thumb|right|350px|''Epic'']]

'''Optimus Prime and his small crew of maintenance Autobots come into possession of the [[AllSpark (Animated)|AllSpark]]. This powerful Cybertronian artifact attracts the attention of the Autobots' long-forgotten enemies, the Decepticons, and sends them all crashing toward a strange, distant planet known as... ''Earth.'''''

'''German Title:''' Trasformieren und Abfahrt

==Detailed synopsis==
===Part 1===

In deep, deep space, [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] watches some old history videos, prompting [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] to complain about him watching that "junk" when the other members of the crew need assistance. Prime wonders if they were designed for more than repairing [[space bridge]]s. The two 'Bots transform into their vehicle modes and head out into the asteroid field.

[[Image:TFA_TFandRollout_TheAllsparkdiscovered.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Well... at least there's no [[mass-shifting]]]]

Outside, [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]], dangling from a high rock by his wrecking ball (and becoming quite queasy in the process), is freed by [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]], who also ends up taking a tumble. Bumblebee complains about the sheer amount of rocks blocking the space bridge node, and one is shattered unexpectedly by [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]]'s throwing star. Prime gives his troops a speech about teamwork (which Prowl moans at theatrically), but at that point the space bridge lights up, sending rocks and Autobots flying. Fancy footwork by Optimus saves each of his teammates from the debris, and a well-aimed grappling line shuts down the bridge. With his subordinates stunned at their leader's skills, Prime is forced to admit he trained at [[Autobot Academy|Cybertron's military academy]]. Bumblebee's query as to what the hell he's doing on a nowhere maintenance assignment is left unanswered as they notice something glowing in the rubble.

Prime clears away the debris to reveal a large, chest-like object. Ratchet is horrified and immediately demands they throw it back into the space bridge, but an alert from [[Teletran 1]] announces the arrival of a signature consistent with the long-lost [[Decepticon]]s. Ratchet then insists they take the object and just get out of there post-haste.

[[Image:TFA_TFandRollout_Decepticonship.jpg|thumb|right|150px|Yes, this ''is'' a scout ship. Way to go, [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Magnanimous.]]]]

On board the ''[[Ark (Animated)|Ark]]'', Ratchet finally reveals what they've found: the [[AllSpark (Animated)|AllSpark]], the source of all Transformer life that was lost centuries ago. Optimus, worried about the oncoming Decepticon signal, contacts the [[Cybertron Elite Guard]] for help. After taking a bit of snark from [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]], Optimus reveals what they found, which shuts Sentinel up fast. Sentinel then puts the crew through to [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]], who tells Optimus Prime to stay put while they send reinforcements... and not to worry about that Decepticon thing. Optimus, considering this to be a really stupid move, orders the crew to start booking it out of there.

[[Image:Ani_crew.JPG|left|thumb|200px|Scotty, engage!]]

This proves wise, as the signal is indeed a Decepticon ship—a [[Nemesis (Animated)|command ship]], in fact. The identification markings are ones that Optimus and Ratchet recognize, meaning its commander can only be one person: [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]], leader of the Decepticons. On board the Decepticon ship, [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]] doubts the AllSpark is aboard the ''Ark'' and declares Megatron a fool. [[Lugnut]] denounces Starscream as a traitor, while [[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]] calls Lugnut an idiot for his blind loyalty and [[Blitzwing (Animated)|Blitzwing]] just acts... well, crazy. The Decepticons continue to bicker at each other until Megatron enters, shutting up all of them. The Decepticons chase the Autobot ship, and Starscream volunteers to board them. Megatron quickly shoots that idea down. Just before he leaves, Starscream wishes his commander "luck" with a pat on the back... affixing a bomb to Megatron in the process.

Megatron makes his way to the ''Ark'' and begins to melt his way through its hull. Optimus uses external manipulator arms to grapple with Megatron, until the bomb detonates, sending the ship careening uncontrollably into a space bridge node, which explodes after they go through the gate. Starscream begins to make a speech declaring himself the new Decepticon leader, but the other three have abandoned ship, noting that the fireball from the space bridge explosion is only getting larger. Too late, Starscream realizes the trouble he's in...

An unknown distance away, the Autobot ship reappears above a [[Earth|small blue and green planet]]. Prime checks on his troops, but Megatron has gotten aboard, having survived the explosion, but at the cost of his right arm. Prime uses his grappling line to shut off the gravity, making it more difficult for Megatron to fight. All five Autobots face off against the Decepticon, but he's too strong (though Prowl does manage to cut off Megatron's damaged arm). Prime and Megatron both end up in the storage bay where the AllSpark is... and as the ship enters the atmosphere, Prime is able to blow the hatch and kick the screaming Megatron out of the ship.

[[Image:TFA_TFandRollout_Arkatmosphere.jpg|thumb|right|150px|[[Beast Wars, Part 1|Oddly familiar.]]]]

On a small farm, a young boy hears a thud and runs to where something has landed in a not-too-distant field. He is shocked to find a robotic head staring lifelessly up at him.

Meanwhile, Prime orders his team into emergency stasis pods to prepare for a crash-landing. He manages to steer the ship away from the city below and gets to a stasis pod just before the ship plunges into [[Lake Erie]].

Fifty years later, Detroit is a city of robots. [[Isaac Sumdac]] is talking to a public school class taking a tour of his facilities, which gets interrupted by Isaac's daughter, [[Sari Sumdac]], and her robot dog, [[Sparkplug (Animated)|Sparkplug]]. As Sari is carted off to her lessons by a [[Tutorbot|robot tutor]], Isaac shows the school kids a nanotech lab, just in time to witness a roach infused with microbots grow out of control and start consuming everything in sight. Isaac tries to keep things calm, but the monster bursts out of the lab...

===Part 2===
[[Image:TFA_TFandRollout_Firefighters_monster.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Yeah, watering it will surely stop the beast.]]

The monster continues to grow, absorbing just about everything it touches to increase its size and power. In the process, it destroys a lot of the factory. [[Captain Fanzone]], the S.W.A.T team, the fire department, ambulances, and robot drones arrive, but the creature absorbs several of the responding vehicles, too. Fanzone uses a bazooka-type weapon and destroys the beast, despite Sumdac's objection. This protest proves well-founded, as the remnants of the creature start flowing back together again, save for one piece that drops into the nearby lake and works its way down to the ''Ark'', its nanites seeking the absorbable technology there. It infiltrates via a small breach in the outer hull, but thankfully, the ship's intruder alert systems are functional and awaken the Autobots before any damage is done. Examining the situation, they decide to have Teletran 1 give them Earth forms so they can blend in and help out. Everyone deploys except Ratchet, who remains behind to analyze the sample of invading material.

[[Image:TFA_TFandRollout_Autobots.jpg|thumb|right|200px|[[Avengers]], ASSEMBLE!]]

During the fight, Bulkhead and Bumblebee spot Sari trying to wrest her security key from Sparkplug's mouth. Mistaking which is owner and which is pet, they approach her, but Bulkhead's greeting only scares her away. She quickly gets nabbed by the monster, but Bumblebee saves her, earning her trust and friendship. Prowl attempts to take on the bug-slug by himself, against Prime's orders, and gets absorbed. Prime orders Ratchet to join them in battle to save Prowl, but the old veteran insists that finding a "cure" code to neutralize the nanites' programming makes more sense than coming out and getting trashed. A somewhat chastened Prime agrees, and Ratchet soon delivers the goods. However, the new program must be uploaded by direct contact{{m-}}meaning from inside the monster. This means the smallest, fastest one of them has to do it. Bumblebee reluctantly takes on the task. The beast has been using some of Prowl's absorbed intelligence and comm link tech, though, so it knows what they're planning and is now smart enough to fight back. Despite this, Bumblebee succeeds in delivering the code, and the bug dissolves into a dusty shower of deactivated nanites. Prowl is soon uncovered, but he's suffered grave wounds and must be taken back to the ''Ark'' for repairs. Sari pesters Bumblebee to be taken along, and her new friend reluctantly agrees, since there's no time to make her go away quietly.

[[Image:TFA_TFandRollout_Sari_followedmehome.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Bumblebee, having a pet is a big responsibility.]]

Once on board, Sari's refusal to stay still and quiet causes 'Bee some embarrassment. He quickly and discreetly ejects her into a ventilation port and joins the others. However, the port opens onto a shaft that takes Sari right to the chamber where the AllSpark is being kept. Curious, she touches it, and it reacts to her, sending its energies into her security card key and reconfiguring it into a key of another sort entirely. Prime finds her almost immediately thereafter, but with no time left to spare away from Prowl, he has to bring her back with him to the repair table. Ratchet's prognosis is bleak, but Sari's AllSpark-charged key abruptly reacts, glowing and tugging her toward Prowl. Bumblebee, seeming to grasp what's happening, helps her onto the table, and as she approaches, her key reshapes itself to fit into a slot on Prowl's chest. She inserts it, and with a burst of energy, the Autobot ninja is whole again. The Autobots then take Sari home and, after a brief misunderstanding, are made heroes and are even invited to a ceremony.

In outer space, Starscream sits aboard the damaged but functional Decepticon ship, babbling that he will find the AllSpark, even though he's been attempting it on his own for the last fifty solar cycles. The ship's computers then detect the traces of AllSpark-like energy in action, and Starscream learns where the Autobots are...

===Part 3===
[[Image:Sariprime.jpg|right|thumb|150px|INSERT WHAT WHERE?!]]

The Autobots are later seen trying to fit in. Bulkhead gets firsthand experience in traffic jams, some birds mistake Prowl for the statue of the [[wikipedia:Hazen S. Pingree|bald guy]] next to him, Bumblebee learns how organics fuel up, and Ratchet can't get a stasis nap without getting a dozen or so parking tickets. Optimus Prime remarks that the Autobots are programmed to respect life, which they always understood to stem from the AllSpark, but as organics are life, they must respect and protect them too. Optimus also expresses curiosity about how little organics are made. Sari's whispered explanation leaves him rather... shocked. The Autobots make a new home base out of a building Sari's dad got out of a merger, an abandoned auto factory that Bumblebee describes as a real fixer-upper{{m-}}a REAL fixer-upper. All of a sudden, they get alerted to a fire. The Autobots proceed to douse the blaze and save its victims, no problem, unaware they are being watched by Starscream.

The next day, during the inauguration ceremony for the Sumdac Fully Automated Rapid Transit System (F.A.R.T.S., for short), Starscream enters Earth's atmosphere and takes on a group of fighter jets. He destroys all but one, which he scans. As the civilians and Autobots watch the aerial display of the Crimson Angels, Isaac Sumdac notices there is an extra jet present that he didn't hire. That one jet then leaves the formation and streaks toward the ceremony platform, where it transforms into Starscream, who fires his null-ray cannons at the Autobots.

After a short fight, which the Autobots lose, Starscream knocks out Bumblebee and takes him, Isaac, the mayor, and Capt. Fanzone hostage in the F.A.R.T.S. train, flying it to the top of a very tall tower. He demands that the Autobots deliver the AllSpark if they want him to release the train car. The Autobots don't trust him, but don't want to risk human lives, so Sari offers a plan, but they ignore her. She continues to tell a sob story until the Autobots listen. The Autobots proceed with her plan, and Prowl and Sari fly up to the transit pod to rescue the hostages while the other Autobots keep Starscream busy. Once Starscream realizes what's happening, he takes a brief beating but recovers quickly. Starscream then throws the train{{m-}}thus keeping his end of the deal{{m-}}with Sari, Prowl, and Bumblebee on top of/in it. Between Bumblebee's agility and Prowl's thrusters, Sari is rescued and the train lands without much damage. The Autobots then challenge Starscream to a friendly game of Keep Away, during which Starscream almost gets the AllSpark, but Bulkhead gets it instead, because he said he got it. A furious Starscream unleashes a devastating, prolonged (as in nearly 12 seconds) null-ray blast on the Autobots, briefly knocking them all senseless.

[[Image:TFA_TFandRollout_Prime_SS_Allsparkactivates.jpg|thumb|left|150px|In the old days, [[Stan Bush|The Touch]] would have started playing now.]]

With the Autobots down, Starscream takes the AllSpark from Optimus and blows a couple of blocks of Detroit right off the map. Not ready to give up, Optimus climbs all the way up a building to get it back from Starscream, which Starscream doesn't see coming because he was too busy gloating. After a quick back-and-forth exchange of possessing it, both grab it at the same time. As they struggle, the AllSpark opens and emits a strange energy wave that blasts Starscream away.

The explosion has left Prime dangling precariously, and he takes a tremendous plummet to the pavement. He notes weakly that he now knows what it feels like to be a hero, then dies, but Sari uses her AllSpark key to revive him.<ref>[[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|This is something of an Optimus Prime record]]: Dead after only three episodes, revived a mere 75 seconds later. Way to go.</ref> The Autobots later go about fixing up Detroit, earning the enduring gratitude of the citizenry. Professor Sumdac is also grateful, for the Autobots saved him and Sari, but he fears what will happen if the Autobots—not to mention the rest of the world{{m-}}were to discover the source of his robotic empire.

Unseen by Sumdac, one of the [[Sensors#Optics|optics]] of his source of technology glows in a darkened room. Megatron still functions...

==Stats==

*'''Written by:''' [[Marty Isenberg]]
*'''Directed by:''' [[Matt Youngberg]], [[Yutaka Kagawa]], [[Minoru Yamaoka]], [[Makoto Fuchigami]]
*'''Original airdate:''' December 26, 2007

===Featured characters===
(''Numbers indicate order of appearance.)''
{|border=5 cellpadding=5 cellspacing=5 align=center style="border:#800000"

! style="background:#FFEEEE" | [[Autobots]]
! style="background:#EEEEFE" | [[Decepticons]]
! style="background:antiquewhite" | [[Human|Humans]]
|-
| style="background:#FFEEEE" valign="top" |
*[[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] (1)
*[[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] (2)
*[[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] (3)
*[[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] (4)
*[[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] (5)
*[[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]] (6)
*[[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]] (7)

| style="background:#EEEEFE" valign="top" |
*[[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]] (12)
*[[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]] (8)
*[[Lugnut]] (9)
*[[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]] (10)
*[[Blitzwing (Animated)|Blitzwing]] (11)

| style="background:antiquewhite" valign="top" |
*[[Isaac Sumdac]] (13)
*[[Daniel (Animated)|Daniel]] (14)
*[[Sari Sumdac]] (15)
*[[Captain Fanzone]] (16)
|}

==Quotes==
"Do you ever get the feeling that you were programmed for more than just repairing space bridges?" 
"I got a diagnostic program that will delete that feeling like a bad line of code."
:—'''Optimus Prime's''' dreams are crushed into a fine powder by '''Ratchet'''.

'''Starscream''': Megatron is a fool who's been chasing a ghost for centuries...I seriously doubt we'll find this "AllSpark" on board such an ''insignificant'' vessel. 
'''Lugnut''': ''Traitor!'' Megatron is wise! Megatron is bold! Megatron will return the Decepticons to Cybertron and... 
'''Blackarachnia''': ... and wipe our homeland clean of the stench of Autobot tyranny, blah-dee blah blah blah! Did you memorize that speech, Lugnut? Or is it just hardwired into that thick, one-track processor of yours? 
''[An ice beam freezes Blackarachnia's forearm]'' 
'''Calm Blitzwing''': As usual, Blackarachnia, your demeanor is as unpleasant as that accursed organic mode of yours. 
'''Blackarachnia''': Blow it out your [[Anatomic euphemism#Actuator|actuator]], three-face. ''[Shatters the ice around forearm]'' 
''[Blitzwing switches to his angry face]'' 
'''Angry Blitzwing''': De name is Blitzving, insect! Remember it! 'Cause it's de last t'ing you're gonna hear before I— 
''[switches to crazy face]'' 
'''Crazy Blitzwing''': —express my feelings in song! De itzy bitzy spider... 
:—Decepticon camaraderie at its finest.

"What do you want now, Starscream?" 
''[Starscream attaches an explosive onto Megatron's back.]'' 
"Only to wish you luck, my liege." 
"I do not believe... in ''luck''". 
''[Megatron transforms and leaves.]'' 
"Neither... do I..." 
:—'''Megatron''' is arrogant, '''Starscream''' is treacherous. [[Megatron (G1)|Some]] [[Starscream (G1)|things]] [[Megatron (Armada)|never]] [[Starscream (Armada)|change]].

"'''Yes!''' ...right then. Solemn face, solemn face."
:—'''Starscream''' watches Megatron explode, then composes himself before going to tell the Decepticons he's their new leader.

'''Bulkhead''': Hi there, little creature. My name's Bulkhead. Did you lose your owner-bot? 
'''Sari''':... AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!! 
'''Bumblebee''': AAAAHHH! That thing must be armed with some sort of high-frequency sonic weapon! 
''[Sari runs off screaming]'' 
'''Bulkhead''': I think it's scared. Don't worry, little creature! I'm not gonna hurt you! 
''[Sari is grabbed by the robot-slug]'' 
'''Bumblebee''': But that thing might!
:—'''Bulkhead''' and '''Bumblebee''' forget about the Prime Directive.

"Hi, I'm Bumblebee!" 
"I'm Sari." 
"Oh, don't be, I like my name."
:—'''Bumblebee''' and '''Sari''' introduce themselves.

"Uh...am I going to be able to ''breathe'' down there?" 
"Oh, sure! What's 'breathe'?"
:—'''Sari''' takes a trip underwater with '''Bumblebee'''.

'''Optimus Prime''' ''[to Sari]'': How did you get aboard this ship? 
'''Bumblebee''': It followed me home... Can I keep it? 
'''Sari''': Hey, I'm not an "it", I'm a "she"! 
'''Optimus''' ''[to Bumblebee]'': So, I suppose you have an explanation? 
'''Bumblebee''': Actually, I'm narrowing it down to my top five. 
:—'''Optimus''' discovers '''Bumblebee'''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s new friend.

"It's okay, they're friendly! Well, except for [[Ratchet (Animated)|the red and white one]], he's kinda grumpy! But other than that..."
:—'''Sari''' plays ambassador.

'''Optimus Prime''': But how is it you're able to make these new, smaller organics? 
'''Sari''': (Whispers) 
'''Optimus''': o_0 
:—'''Optimus''' learns that there are some things that you can't unhear.

"Ratchet, think fast!" 
"Oh crud." 
:{{m-}}'''Optimus Prime''' and '''Ratchet''', as the game of keep-away starts.

{{-}}

==Other notes==
===Animation and/or technical glitches===
* Megatron's vehicle mode was depicted flying upside-down, or backwards, or possibly both. To be fair, in Space, there is no such thing as up or down, thanks to the whole 'no gravity' thing.

* As Starscream tackles Optimus Prime through a building as the Autobot tries to escape with the AllSpark, Optimus' axe is missing from Starscream's left wing. It reappears moments later for Optimus to retrieve it.

===Continuity errors===
* The train Starscream blasts from the tower falls toward the ground very, very slowly.

*In at least one scene, Starscream's Earth-form wing is shown with a spike, in the same manner as his Cybertronian body.

*Sumdac is using Megatron's hand as a chair. However, he seems to be using the right hand, which was blown up by Starscream. (It ''could'' have fallen off the ''Ark'', as it was still clinging to the hull when last seen, but that seems unlikely.)

===Transformers references===
*The title of the episode itself is a [[Roll out|reference to Transformers lore past]].
*Footage from the [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|G1 cartoon]] episodes "[[War Dawn]]" and "[[More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]" is used as history tapes detailing the events of the first Great War, millions of years prior. [[Canon|This]] has been confirmed as pure fanwank, and should not be taken as linking animated to G1, continuity wise.

*Sari's robotic dog [[Sparkplug (Animated)|Sparkplug]] is likely named after either [[Sparkplug Witwicky]] from G1, the Armada Mini-Con [[Sparkplug (Armada)|Sparkplug]], or both.
[[Image:Spikecarlydanielanimated.jpg|right|thumb|150px|Twenty years later, and they're still overdressed.]]
*Characters resembling [[Spike Witwicky|Spike]], [[Carly]], and [[Daniel Witwicky]] are seen at a hot dog stand, purchasing some sort of futuristic bunless wieners-on-a-stick.

*The ''Animated'' Autobots are [[Infiltration|not the first]] to use a starship parked at the bottom of one of the Great Lakes as their headquarters.

*When Optimus Prime dies, his body fades to grays, just as [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Generation 1 Optimus Prime]] did in ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''. His spark chamber opens in much the same manner as well.

*The baby carriage carrying the [[Soviet_Union|baby with the russian hat]] bears some resemblance to [[Wheelie]].

*Teletran 1 (spelled with only one "a" in this universe) dispatches a small satellite very similar to the [[Sky Spy]] satellite used on occasion by the Autobots in the ''Generation 1'' cartoon. The glowing energy "boxes" with which it scans vehicles for the Autobots to transform into are lifted wholesale out of "[[More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]".

*[[Sari Sumdac's key]] bears a strong resemblance to the [[Key to Vector Sigma]].

* When bulkhead Mention Boss bot to Optimus Prime, this was a reference to one of [[Quickstrike (BW)]]'s qoutes from Beast wars

===Miscellaneous trivia===
* In this episode, [[Tutor Bot]] tries to teach Sari about the [[Wikipedia:Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act|Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act]] (a major economic blunder of the 1930s).
* When Prowl gets birdpooped on, he is standing next to a statue of [[wikipedia:Hazen S. Pingree|Hazen S. Pingree]], four-term mayor of Detroit and one-time governor of Michigan. In real life, the statue is located in Detroit's Grand Circus Park.
* A refurbished Michigan Central Station makes an appearance as the site for the dedication of Detroit's rapid transit system. The real-life station (abandoned since the '80s) was featured in the [[Transformers (2007)|2007 live-action movie]].
* When mocking the Autobots, Starscream actually calls Megatron "the great Megatron" without any sarcasm. Apparently, he'll only give a sincere compliment to his leader when he's insulting something else.
* When Optimus comes back to life, he asks, "Is this the [[Well of All Sparks]]?" and Sari answers, "No, it's Detroit." This is an allusion to the movie ''Field of Dreams'' when Shoeless Joe Jackson (Ray Liotta) asks Ray Kinsella (Kevin Costner) "Is this heaven?" and Ray answers "No, it's Iowa."

== Footnote ==
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Colossus Rhodes

2008-04-14T09:58:57Z

Black rhino ranger:

:''Colossus Rhodes is a [[human]] in the [[Transformers Animated]] [[continuity family]].''
[[Image:Rhodes.JPG|right|thumb|200px|I WILL BREAK YOUUUU!!!]]

'''Cyrus "The Colossus" Rhodes''' is a biotech-enhanced human who works for [[Prometheus Black]]. He seems to have issues over being rather small and frail, so he uses the enhancements to transform into a giant that's as big as or bigger than [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]].

That's pretty [[frag]]ging big.

Black boasts that Rhodes is one of his greatest successes in biotechnological enhancement. Colossus is strong, but he isn't very smart.

{{quote|That's a human?}}
{{quote|Must be a new model...|Bulkhead and Prowl commenting on Rhodes's strange appearance|"[[Total Meltdown]]"}}

==Fiction==
===Transformers Animated cartoon===
{{ongoing}}
:''Voice actor:'' [[Corey Burton]] (English), [[Gunnar Helm]](small)/[[Gerald Paradies]](giant) (German)

[[Image:Cyrus_Rhodes.jpg|150px|left|thumb|A mustache, Yoda grew!]] Cyrus Rhodes first appeared as a combatant in a wrestling match staged by Prometheus Black to show off how effective biotechnology is. Though he seemed to be just a tiny, old man, pistons implanted in his back began pumping super-steroids that quickly made him more than a match for [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]]. He tossed the plucky little 'bot out of the ring, and then proceeded to make a mess out of him and most of the surrounding parking lot. He was then disoriented by the sounds of a nearby car alarm, giving [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] a chance to disable the pistons that granted him his enhancements. [[Captain Fanzone]] was not impressed by Rhodes's crazed, berserker-like state and denied Black the coveted Detroit police contract.

Later, as Black attacked the Sumdac corporation as the villainous Meltdown, Rhodes was left to mop up the opposition outside. Prowl again tried to disable the freak's steroid pistons, but Rhodes commented that the "boss" had reinforced them. Ultimately, he became disoriented again when he accidentally tossed [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] against a church bell. Prowl correctly surmised that sonics were Rhodes's weakness, so Prime struck the bell repeatedly and forced Rhodes back into his normal, un-enhanced form. {{storylink|Total Meltdown}}

Several weeks later, he was still working for Black. After [[Swoop (Animated)|Swoop]] kidnapped Sari, Black left Rhodes to guard her. However, he wasn't very good at it, as Sari tricked him into walking into a bathroom and drenched him with water, which shorted out his "electrode thingies". He later got his pistons working and emerged from Black's hideout (along with Black's two other mutant freaks) to help their boss, but met up with the [[Dinobot (Animated)| Dinobots]]. After being frightened by the Dinobots' [[Energo-sword|menacing flaming weapons,]] Rhodes and his cohorts were thoroughly trashed by the robot dinosaurs. {{storylink|Survival of the Fittest}}

==Trivia==
* Colossus Rhodes's name is a reference to the [[wikipedia:Colossus of Rhodes|Colossus of Rhodes]], one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World.

* His vulnerability to high-frequency sonic waves seems similar to the that of Marvel supervillain [[Venom (Crossovers)|Venom]], another joint trait being that their shared weakness is discovered by the accidental ringing of a church bell, as seen in ''Spider-Man 3''.

* His pumps also malfunction when they get into contact with water. Yes, clearly a great success, Prometheus.

* This doesn't even touch on his thematic resemblance to DC Comics's steroid-pumped freak, [[Wikipedia:Bane (comics)|Bane]].

* He was defeated by a little girl and a toilet, Sucks to be him.

* A professional wrestler on steroids? No way!

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Headstrong (G1)

2008-04-14T09:57:13Z

Black rhino ranger: No seriously, Horny is a bad word in an Encyclopedia

Talk:Main Page

2008-04-12T19:55:08Z

Black rhino ranger: /* Funny */

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== The Funny ==

Maybe if the stuff you said was funny, no one would have a problem with it, but most of the jokes on here are pretty lame, it's not about transformers fans being serious, it's about your jokes being bad. When other people try to put there humor in it, you erase it. Sooooo make the jokes funny and you wont have to worry about it. Besides the Real Wikipedia has more information on transformers than the one dedicated to transformers have, what gives. Maybe before you work on your lame jokes you can fill out the information on the article. Sorry just what I think about it, don't take to much offence. {{unsigned|67.140.110.210}}

:Humor is subjective. Pesonally, I consider most of the jokes on this site to be neutral. They are clearly trying to be silly, but neither funny nor painful. They merely lighten the tone. Users who show up here and do nothing but change jokes into different jokes are clearly not accomplishing anything. The new jokes are never any better -- they are merely different, and often worse. That is a waste of everybody's time. I haven't spent a lot of time browsing Transformers material on Wikipedia, but I highly doubt that their information is ''better'', even if there might be a larger quantity of it. What little I've seen there has been disorganized, mixes fan assertions with canon, and is at times not even reliable. ''If'' they have more information than we do, it is only because people have been adding TF info there for at least twice as long as this specialized wiki has existed. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:57, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

::Yep, this wiki is a far more reliable source of information for Transformers than the Wikipedia shall ever be. I've corrected some of their base assumptions and half-truths upon occassion. If we lack information for something, '''then feel free to contribute''' to our wiki or wait for one of us to get around to it. Really, what the Wikipedia offers is rather generalised information and (as steve-o points out) fan-assumed fanon and downright false information. Besides, we provide the Transformers info that the users on the wikipedia either don't know or won't bother with, such as info on the toys, their designers, toy construction materials, obscure series and/or characters and so on.
:: And yes, we think captioning a picture of say, Megatron with 'Art of Megatron' or some such is really patronising. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:00, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I, as a fellow Transformer fan, agree that "the funny" is lame.

One time I tried to change [[Nautilator]]'s bio; stating that he carries a powerful weapon, transforms INTO a powerful weapon, and is an undersea version of [[Constructicon]] [[Scavager]]. But none of that went through.

I'm sensing "the bias" here.

[http://www.geocities.com/tenou_clock/ Tyrenol]

:''I, as a fellow Transformer fan, agree that "the funny" is lame.'' 
: Some of it is certainly very very lame. If you would like to raise the level of humor here, then A) become a regular and respected contributor of useful non-funny stuff, ''then'' B) improve the funny. What we most strongly object to is newcomers who contribute ''nothing'' except changes to the humor. Changing the funny is an earned privilege. [[User:JW|JW]] 19:44, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::'''Tyrenol:''' Your [[Nautilator (G1)|Nautilator]] bio was, as far as I can tell, at best [[fanon]] or at worst fan fiction. Steve-o (an admin) points out that your edit had nothing to do with the established Hasbro toy bio. Despite our humour and over-the-top references to a character's foibles, we base what we write on official material approved by Hasbro/Takara.

::That's not 'bias', that's the rules.

:::Okay, then. Here's another idea: How about you guys use the exact wording from the bios as oppose to just sticking stuff in and thinking that everyone else will agree with its hilariousness.

:::Besides; I have two problems with anything Wiki. 1) Things don't stay changed when they get changed. Annoyances like needed citations and reliable sources that have a problem staying reliable. 2) I have a life to live, a job to pay for where I live, and I really don't have the time to watch everything on the web like a cold-stare hawk.

:::My apologies for being new. My apologies for calling your jokes lame. But what is everybody doing on the web when they can't take the sharp, cold knife in the back that's called "criticism?" The same rules apply for me. [http://www.geocities.com/tenou_clock/ Tyrenol]

::::We have a specific policy AGAINST cut-and-pasting from bios, one of many reasons being that those are a) copyrighted and b) not always applicable. After all, Shockwave sure wasn't anything like his toy bio in the cartoon. Character overviews on this resource are "all-encompassing", in order to reflect changes and evolutions in the character. And what do you do when a character -like, say, Optimus Prime- has several dozen bios over the course of 20 years?
::::Maybe you should apologize for playing the "I have a life" card that screams "I have no actual argument so I'll imply you all are losers". And don't confuse "whinging" with "criticism", or "disagreeing with" as "can't take it". This argument has come up with many an anon IP who is more interested in fighting a long-established precedent for this wiki which has garnered far more positive attention than negative than they are in contributing, and if they didn't change thing one about it, neither will you. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]]

::As for humour being lame, let me ask you a question: Do you wander onto privately-run Tranformers fan sites and message boards, see something you don't like (that isn't necessarily offensive) and proceed to tell off the admins for how they run their website? Much of the reason the wiki is the way it is is because the people who run this wiki and the majority of regular contributors have a sense of humour. I find it odd that newcomers will question our policies as if they claim some sort of ownership over the wiki, yet have contributed little to it. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:24, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

:I'm a newcomer, but I have to admit that the policies regarding jokes ''prevent'' unfair bias, if anything. Additionally, it helps newcomers achieve a sense of ownership. Maybe we don't all get the lame obscure reference on [[Special:Random|whatever]] page, but whoever put it there probably thinks it's hilarious! Thanks to the established policies he/she doesn't need to worry about someone replacing it with another, equally-lame obscure reference. --[[User:Starcrunch|Starcrunch]] 19:05, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

::Make jokes and be merry. My message to any readers is if you get offended by jokes, then you take Transformers way too seriously :-D --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:01, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

:::haha... Transformers too seriously?! ''Only'' five of my nine open browser tabs are occupied with something Transformers related right now. If that's not moderation, then I don't know what is! ...but yes, if your reason for being put-off is a bent sense of humor, then you're probably in in the wrong place! --[[User:Starcrunch|Starcrunch]] 18:16, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I thought the Ladiesman217 article was funny. Needed some fixing for the caption with the police car. It's not funny.

When I read these articles for information, and some stupid joke gets thrown in, it really throws my thought process off. I'm sure it's that way for a lot of people too. Don't forget you're writing this for other people and it's not a good idea to screw with them, or whatever [[User:FartboyExtreme|FartboyExtreme]] 03:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:For every person that hates the joking and non-serious nature of the wiki, there's somebody else that loves it. If people can't hack the humour, well I'm sorry, but that's your problem. As for writing this for other people, I contribute to this wiki for the sheer pleasure of having fun with my stupid toy & cartoon hobby, not out of some obligation or duty to provide an encyclopedia for the fandom. As far as I am concerned, so long as we are accurate and detailed, we can also make light of our hobby. -[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:31, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
::I think there needs to be some rules on where the jokes can be. I personally don't mind them when they're in image captions and such, but I think in the middle of a paragraph isn't very appropriate. Know what I mean? [[User:FartboyExtreme|FartboyExtreme]] 21:01, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Could you provide an example of "middle of the paragraph" humor where you find it inappropriate?
:::Also, just a note: It's hard to take you seriously with that username. [[User:JW|JW]] 21:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
::::I think he's talking about things like my edits to [[Sparkplug Witwicky]]'s cartoon section where I said the Autobots saved the oil rig workers "from a death exactly the same as death", or references to characters freaking out.
::::As for establishing rules to prevent people from placing jokes within paragraphs, I highly doubt that will come to pass as most of the regular contributors and the administration staff write in this manner. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:28, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Seriously, people saying BAWWW WIKI NOT SERIOUS ENOUGH irritates the fuck out of me. I'm sorry our little collection of information about giant toy space robots isn't serious enough for you. Maybe you should go read a Serious Encyclopedia, like the one dedicated to Everything The Goddamn Ewoks Ever Did. That's a serious topic worthy of intense consideration, and it should be treated with the respect it deserves. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 13:49, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::People with names like ''FartboyExtreme'' complaining that the wiki isn't serious enough set off my bullshit meter something fierce.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 14:13, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::: That comment about writing this for other people really shit me up the wall. I was not aware I was doing this wiki as my job. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:07, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

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==Featured Article for October==

So...are we ever going to change the featured article? It's been Megatron for, like, two months now. [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] 03:58, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
:It depends on what the management thinks is complete enough in terms of length and content. I think Movie Prime's article should be given a go since October will be the month of the DVD release in the US and the article is more or less complete. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:14, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
:How about something other than a character page?--[[User:Zodberg|Zodberg]] 12:16, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
::I nominate Sector Seven, because the article is fairly thorough, references a lot of material, and will be useful to the fans directed here who liked the movie but haven't read all the minor, wacky background material. That article is still listed as a "Stub," though as with a great many "stubs" on this wiki I kind of don't see why. It could be made ''longer'', like all of them, but it's not like it's missing anything critical or is just a halfassed paragraph. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 14:33, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I think we should make articles for Rebecca Howard and Alexander Powers before we feature it, since they're pretty important to the ARG storyline, which, as you said, is the wacky background material 99% of people would never seen or heard of. Plus they're linked right at the start of the article. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:41, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

By the way when it comes doing the most wanted page list means I will do it but someone must back me up when I go do yardwork.(Spearhead 08:03, 7 October 2007 (UTC))

Sweet zombie Jesus, the Featured Article changed!!! I think I may faint! ...But one request: Please don't change it back to [[Megatron_%28G1%29|Megatron]] in November! --[[User:Starcrunch|Starcrunch]] 15:45, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Nice going guys. You finally got rid of Megatron... and then replaced him with Primal Prime, who's been on for three months. Either someone tell me how to change that article, or ''please'' replace it with something new--how about Optimus Prime's G1 toys? [[User:Crosshairs-1|"MovieMan"]] 11:17, 24 February 2008 (UTC)Crosshairs-1

== "By series" column is missing... ==

"Comics" for Beast Wars.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 13:51, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

== Just a little question... ==

Is there anywhere I can find a NON parody wiki? - Anonymous

: Right here? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:31, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:wikipedia--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 19:33, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
::But their TF pages suck. So dry and boring and light on content and all Mignashy. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:35, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Mostly the Mignashy part. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:48, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Wikipedia Transformers stuff is full on content! It's just all made up. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't think you understand the meaning of "parody", Mister Anonymous. "It has humor in it" is not what parody entails. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:48, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, plus beneath our bad captions and jokes there's a wealth of information you will not likely find anywhere else, at least not all in one place. I think people are too used to the "[insert franchise] is ''Serious Business''" natures of the large, dry wikis like Memory Alpha and the Star Wars Wiki. That or they are unable to laugh at Transformers because they take it too seriously. Or they think this entire wiki is written solely by Walky, and since they hate Walky, they hate the wiki. Those last people suck. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:58, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

== Logo--Good Wiki!==
Hi guys!!! This is a very creative wiki! But I am not keen on the logo. Right now is: [[Image:wiki.png]] 
{{unsigned|Thatkidjasper}}

:Please sign your posts to talk pages by typing four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) at the end.
:Also, you'll have more luck getting us to change our logo if you spend a few months as a regular contributor, first. [[User:JW|JW]] 19:22, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

How do u put your logo on the upper left?--[[User:Farragut79|Farragut79]] 14:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

== Caps? ==

Do we want to implement sabrblade's suggestion of replacing

(toyline/cartoon/comic)

with

(Toyline/Cartoon/Comic)

. . . ? Personally, I think it makes the page look more cluttered. [[User:JW|JW]] 22:07, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
:Well, I just thought it would make it look a little neater. I didn't mean anything by it. I also thought it would make more sense to change "comic" to "comics" under Generation 1 and Beast Wars since they both had more than one comic series. I also put a "comic" link under Beast Machines that goes to the Wreckers comic since that ''is'' a Beast Machines comic series. And I thought "comics" should be "comic" under Animated since so far it only had one comic series that we know of. And "Sequel" was already put under Transformers (2007), since I saw that it was capitalized, that's what gave me the idea to capitalize the rest. But I see that someone erased "Sequel" from the main page. [[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 23:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

== Putting Headmasters/Masterforce/Victory links in the "by series" column ==

Would anyone object if I put bulleted links for Headmaster/Masterforce/Victory in the "by series" column? I acknowledge that the series are linked under G1 articles, but it's arguable that they are not "true G1", but rather a non-canonical branch of that continuity.

For example:
* ''[[Generation 1]]'' ([[Generation 1 (toyline)|toyline]]/[[Generation 1 (cartoon)|cartoon]]/[[Generation 1 (comic)|comic]])
** ''[[Headmasters]]''
** ''[[Masterforce]]''
** ''[[Victory]]''
* ''[[Generation 2]]'' ([[Generation 2 (toyline)|toyline]]/[[Generation 2 (cartoon)|cartoon]]/[[Generation 2 (Marvel comic)|comic]])

And yes, I am a newb and I know that that impacts the consideration of my suggestion.

[[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 00:34, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:Headmasters/Masterforce/Victory ARE true, canonical G1, but I think the main page list is long enough already without us lengthening it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:37, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::I don't really have a problem with it, but yeah it would make the list longer too much. Besides, you forgot Zone, Battlestars, and Operation: Combination. [[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 00:50, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::1) I don't want to be combative, but can ItsWalky support the G1-canon assertion? Only the hardcore fanbase is familiar with the Japanese series. If these shows are G1, then why don't the G1 cartoon/comic/toy pages consistently contain info about those toys? For instance, the G1 toy page doesn't list the Japan-series-exclusive toys.
:::2) Each Japanese series has its own toyline/comic/cartoon links in this wiki. It only seems proper to list them here.
:::3) I disagree that this would make the list too long.
:::4) I'm afraid I don't know enough about Zone/Battlestars/Op:Com. Time to surf some more...
:::[[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 00:57, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::::In Transformers, and by the standards of this wiki, everything that is approved by Hasbro or Takara is canon. Without exception. It does not matter whether you have seen it or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:02, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::ItsWalky, do you have any non-length-related objection? [[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 01:29, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::Well, ItsWalky, since you're not buyin' his idea, how about this then. Make a drop-down list for all the JG1 series drop under the Generation 1 text by pressing a [+] button, ya know like the ones seen in Category pages and such. Does that sound okay? And maybe one to drop under Beast Wars for Beast Wars II and Neo? [[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 01:34, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

I am really not sure how we would jigger a collapsible continuity tree list. I would assume though if anyone knew how to accomplish this it would involve some sort of sinister faustian bargain with the fount of Dark Science that is [[User:Derik|Derik]].--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 01:42, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:Or we could just implement my suggestion. Problem solved! [[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 01:49, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::Not quite. You say, "put them on the list," he says, "no, it'll be too long," I say "compromise, a drop-down list '''if it's possible'''" [[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 02:17, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::If we include the various Japanese G1 franchises we would also need to include Battle For the Spark, Unicron Battles, Powerlinx Battles, Primus Unleashed and Allspark Battles. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:53, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::::None of those are quite the seperate, distinct entity that the Japanese lines mentioned are. BftS, etc. are sublines of their respective ongoing lines. Masterforce, Victory, etc. are mainlines themselves, with the only higher hierarchy level being "Transformers", or arguably "Transformers Japan".
::::I think the list is long enough. The Japanese series are all linked too off of the summary [[Generation 1]] page. A collapsible list would probably uglify the aesthetic table we have in place, to say nothing of the technical difficulties to make it work. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 05:15, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::'''Then it follows that some work should be done to include the japanese-exclusive toys from these series in the G1 toys pages, and include the japan-manga for these series in the G1 comics pages. Do you all think that is appropriate? The way I see it, these series are either within G1 (for the wiki), or they aren't. Right now it seems like they halfway are.'''[[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 16:40, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:Yay, I'm faustian! You have no idea how happy that makes me.
:Unfortunately, a quick investigation tells me that Wikia does not come equipped with any of the table-collapse scripts found on Wikipedia (they have custom ones for the table of contents and category trees, but they aren't cross-adaptable.) It ''might'' be possible to install one of them purely in the Monobook.js file we can edit (I feel like there might be PHP integration, which we can't) but even then the scripts are very limited, and don't do quite what we want.
:Wikipedia has generally be very, very distrustful of implementing those kind of drop-downs because of compatibility issues. Making Javascript a fundamental part of your site's navigation is bad because if someone turns it off or cripples its functions to suppress annoying ads... thennt his site ceases to function.
:So, while a drop-down may be ''possible'' with considerable effort, it brings entailed problems that would seem to outweigh any benefits it delivers. Without a more compelling application for a drop-down, I wouldn't be interested in even ''trying'' to get it working. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:18, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::Uh, I'm sorry, I don't know how I totally missed this conversation. The javascript that Derik describes here is not only not hard to do, but it's actually phenomenally easy. The only question is would it LOOK good on the page; I assure you, the technical end is not an issue.

::If anyone still cares. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 05:21, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

:Let me draw your attention to my bolded post above... Any comments? [[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 00:41, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
::I don't think we care enough about those series to list them. We prefer to mock them. List is too long, anyway. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

==Weird Wikia Spotlight image==
Is it just me or is that Autobot symbol Wikia is using to Spotlight our site an unofficial fan-made version? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:55, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, that's... pretty lame. You'd think they could have grabbed one of the ones here in the wiki. [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 09:00, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::God fucking dammit. That's Neale's erroneous font, with the three hash-marks per forehead instead of two. I will not allow this. Who do I yell at? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:45, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:I never thought an Autobrand could look so angry...-- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 02:05, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

:How to fix the image:
:1. make new image using official Autobot sigil from... anywhere
:2. go [[w:Image:Transformers-monaco.gif|here]].
:3. upload new image
:4. ???
:5. PROFIT!!! --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:41, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
::Man that is pretty dang shitty. Why does Wikia keep trying to make logos '''for''' us?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 03:00, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I have done my level best to try to turn our masthead into a little spotlight image there.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 03:15, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:::[[w:Image:Transformers120.png|Here]], actually. And done. Thank God. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:58, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Wow, much better! :D --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 09:14, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Walky, I [[W:Image:Transformers125.png|found another one]], I assume you have a larger original file that you can replace it with?. Hopefully they didn't make anymore, because that fake Autobot symbol is fucking awful. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:45, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

:Hi, guys -- I'm sorry that you didn't like the spotlight image, and I'm glad that you made your own. [[w:Image:Transformers-monaco.gif|This one]] is terrific; much better than the other one.

:If you guys ever have any concerns (or complaints) about the spotlights or any kind of promotional stuff, please let me know... We're trying to support you and your wiki, and obviously we don't want to do anything that you don't like. Teletraan I is an awesome wiki, and I want to make sure that lots of people know about it.

:So... I'm the person you yell at. And also, hopefully, I'm the person that you can come to with ideas about how to make your site better. Let me know what you think. -- [[User:Toughpigs|Danny]]<staff /> ([[User talk:Toughpigs|talk]]) 06:10, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

::Hi, at least speaking for myself, we're not actually that angry... I think :) Just that the fake Autobot symbol has some minor controversy surrounding it ever since it was accidently used by [[IDW Publishing]] for one of their [[Stormbringer issue 1|early Transformers comics]]. Plus, we try to keep on the good side of Hasbro by using their approved logos and such. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:10, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

:::Thank you for the response - and the desire to promote our wiki. I'd agree with FFN that there's not much actual anger here, and any dissatisfaction is easily remedied. Just let us know whenever you want to run any promos, and we'll cook up whatever imagery and so forth you need. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 21:28, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

::::Okay, cool. We're going to be building up an Entertainment-hub wiki pretty soon, and I may take you up on that offer. :) It's going to take us a little bit to figure out how to do it, but the idea is to have a place where people can promote their wiki, show off a bit, and make connections with other wiki people. It should be fun. I'll let you guys know when it goes up... -- [[User:Toughpigs|Danny]]<staff /> ([[User talk:Toughpigs|talk]]) 23:35, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

==Death becomes you==

Why not add a section relating to death in Transformers (character deaths, permanence etc) with a special section for the way Optimus' pop their clogs...a lot[[User:GWolfv2]]
:We have [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime]]. An article on [[Death]] in general might not be amiss. [[User:JW|JW]] 13:26, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::Well, I started it. It's very slim, cause I'm sure there's people out there more informed then me. I'll try and add what I can once a style is put in place [[User:GWolfv2]]

== april fools day plans ==

i recomend that for april fools day we lock the main page and save a copy of some of the longest/most important pages[[User:81.108.233.59|81.108.233.59]] 16:10, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:No real need to save a copy. Wiki software archives older versions automatically.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:23, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:And, the main page is already semiprotected. [[User:JW|JW]] 16:26, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

==Shift from movie to Animated?==
I'm just thinking that maybe the frontpage's "highlight" should change from the TF movie, which is well wound-down, to Animated, which is new and big and running full-steam. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:04, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
: Sure. That seems like an easy change... --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:19, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

== Featured article ==

We have had the same thing there for like 50 years{{unsigned|Human in Disguise|02:22, 7 April 2008}}
:Not really. Jhiaxus was only made a Featured Article on March 2, 2008.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 06:05, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
::With 6k articles, maybe we could switch the featured article every month?[[User:Spriteless|Spriteless]] 05:45, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
:::We try to when we can, but usually that involves a big push to improve the given article to featured article standards.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 06:30, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

== front tf page ==

i hate april fool pranks on my fave tf front page -dr
:What? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:11, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

== Funny ==
I think we should remove the funny nes on the page, If it stays, It will sound like a child has being messing up this place and Other people will think it doesn't make sense. [[User:Black rhino ranger|Black rhino ranger]] 09:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
:You're going to find yourself in the minority regarding this opinion.--[[User:Suzyprime|Suzyprime]] 13:02, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

:Actually, Ranger, people are more likely to think this wiki "doesn't make sense" if it's edited by people who can't spell, conjugate, or use capital letters correctly. [[User:JW|JW]] 18:37, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Who made this again. [[User:Black rhino ranger|Black rhino ranger]] 19:55, 12 April 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"> From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</div>

Talk:Main Page

2008-04-12T09:01:50Z

Black rhino ranger: /* front tf page */

THE FUNNY STAYS.
-The Management

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*[[Talk:Main_Page/Archive2|Archive2]]

== The Funny ==

Maybe if the stuff you said was funny, no one would have a problem with it, but most of the jokes on here are pretty lame, it's not about transformers fans being serious, it's about your jokes being bad. When other people try to put there humor in it, you erase it. Sooooo make the jokes funny and you wont have to worry about it. Besides the Real Wikipedia has more information on transformers than the one dedicated to transformers have, what gives. Maybe before you work on your lame jokes you can fill out the information on the article. Sorry just what I think about it, don't take to much offence. {{unsigned|67.140.110.210}}

:Humor is subjective. Pesonally, I consider most of the jokes on this site to be neutral. They are clearly trying to be silly, but neither funny nor painful. They merely lighten the tone. Users who show up here and do nothing but change jokes into different jokes are clearly not accomplishing anything. The new jokes are never any better -- they are merely different, and often worse. That is a waste of everybody's time. I haven't spent a lot of time browsing Transformers material on Wikipedia, but I highly doubt that their information is ''better'', even if there might be a larger quantity of it. What little I've seen there has been disorganized, mixes fan assertions with canon, and is at times not even reliable. ''If'' they have more information than we do, it is only because people have been adding TF info there for at least twice as long as this specialized wiki has existed. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:57, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

::Yep, this wiki is a far more reliable source of information for Transformers than the Wikipedia shall ever be. I've corrected some of their base assumptions and half-truths upon occassion. If we lack information for something, '''then feel free to contribute''' to our wiki or wait for one of us to get around to it. Really, what the Wikipedia offers is rather generalised information and (as steve-o points out) fan-assumed fanon and downright false information. Besides, we provide the Transformers info that the users on the wikipedia either don't know or won't bother with, such as info on the toys, their designers, toy construction materials, obscure series and/or characters and so on.
:: And yes, we think captioning a picture of say, Megatron with 'Art of Megatron' or some such is really patronising. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:00, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I, as a fellow Transformer fan, agree that "the funny" is lame.

One time I tried to change [[Nautilator]]'s bio; stating that he carries a powerful weapon, transforms INTO a powerful weapon, and is an undersea version of [[Constructicon]] [[Scavager]]. But none of that went through.

I'm sensing "the bias" here.

[http://www.geocities.com/tenou_clock/ Tyrenol]

:''I, as a fellow Transformer fan, agree that "the funny" is lame.'' 
: Some of it is certainly very very lame. If you would like to raise the level of humor here, then A) become a regular and respected contributor of useful non-funny stuff, ''then'' B) improve the funny. What we most strongly object to is newcomers who contribute ''nothing'' except changes to the humor. Changing the funny is an earned privilege. [[User:JW|JW]] 19:44, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::'''Tyrenol:''' Your [[Nautilator (G1)|Nautilator]] bio was, as far as I can tell, at best [[fanon]] or at worst fan fiction. Steve-o (an admin) points out that your edit had nothing to do with the established Hasbro toy bio. Despite our humour and over-the-top references to a character's foibles, we base what we write on official material approved by Hasbro/Takara.

::That's not 'bias', that's the rules.

:::Okay, then. Here's another idea: How about you guys use the exact wording from the bios as oppose to just sticking stuff in and thinking that everyone else will agree with its hilariousness.

:::Besides; I have two problems with anything Wiki. 1) Things don't stay changed when they get changed. Annoyances like needed citations and reliable sources that have a problem staying reliable. 2) I have a life to live, a job to pay for where I live, and I really don't have the time to watch everything on the web like a cold-stare hawk.

:::My apologies for being new. My apologies for calling your jokes lame. But what is everybody doing on the web when they can't take the sharp, cold knife in the back that's called "criticism?" The same rules apply for me. [http://www.geocities.com/tenou_clock/ Tyrenol]

::::We have a specific policy AGAINST cut-and-pasting from bios, one of many reasons being that those are a) copyrighted and b) not always applicable. After all, Shockwave sure wasn't anything like his toy bio in the cartoon. Character overviews on this resource are "all-encompassing", in order to reflect changes and evolutions in the character. And what do you do when a character -like, say, Optimus Prime- has several dozen bios over the course of 20 years?
::::Maybe you should apologize for playing the "I have a life" card that screams "I have no actual argument so I'll imply you all are losers". And don't confuse "whinging" with "criticism", or "disagreeing with" as "can't take it". This argument has come up with many an anon IP who is more interested in fighting a long-established precedent for this wiki which has garnered far more positive attention than negative than they are in contributing, and if they didn't change thing one about it, neither will you. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]]

::As for humour being lame, let me ask you a question: Do you wander onto privately-run Tranformers fan sites and message boards, see something you don't like (that isn't necessarily offensive) and proceed to tell off the admins for how they run their website? Much of the reason the wiki is the way it is is because the people who run this wiki and the majority of regular contributors have a sense of humour. I find it odd that newcomers will question our policies as if they claim some sort of ownership over the wiki, yet have contributed little to it. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:24, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

:I'm a newcomer, but I have to admit that the policies regarding jokes ''prevent'' unfair bias, if anything. Additionally, it helps newcomers achieve a sense of ownership. Maybe we don't all get the lame obscure reference on [[Special:Random|whatever]] page, but whoever put it there probably thinks it's hilarious! Thanks to the established policies he/she doesn't need to worry about someone replacing it with another, equally-lame obscure reference. --[[User:Starcrunch|Starcrunch]] 19:05, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

::Make jokes and be merry. My message to any readers is if you get offended by jokes, then you take Transformers way too seriously :-D --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:01, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

:::haha... Transformers too seriously?! ''Only'' five of my nine open browser tabs are occupied with something Transformers related right now. If that's not moderation, then I don't know what is! ...but yes, if your reason for being put-off is a bent sense of humor, then you're probably in in the wrong place! --[[User:Starcrunch|Starcrunch]] 18:16, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I thought the Ladiesman217 article was funny. Needed some fixing for the caption with the police car. It's not funny.

When I read these articles for information, and some stupid joke gets thrown in, it really throws my thought process off. I'm sure it's that way for a lot of people too. Don't forget you're writing this for other people and it's not a good idea to screw with them, or whatever [[User:FartboyExtreme|FartboyExtreme]] 03:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:For every person that hates the joking and non-serious nature of the wiki, there's somebody else that loves it. If people can't hack the humour, well I'm sorry, but that's your problem. As for writing this for other people, I contribute to this wiki for the sheer pleasure of having fun with my stupid toy & cartoon hobby, not out of some obligation or duty to provide an encyclopedia for the fandom. As far as I am concerned, so long as we are accurate and detailed, we can also make light of our hobby. -[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:31, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
::I think there needs to be some rules on where the jokes can be. I personally don't mind them when they're in image captions and such, but I think in the middle of a paragraph isn't very appropriate. Know what I mean? [[User:FartboyExtreme|FartboyExtreme]] 21:01, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Could you provide an example of "middle of the paragraph" humor where you find it inappropriate?
:::Also, just a note: It's hard to take you seriously with that username. [[User:JW|JW]] 21:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
::::I think he's talking about things like my edits to [[Sparkplug Witwicky]]'s cartoon section where I said the Autobots saved the oil rig workers "from a death exactly the same as death", or references to characters freaking out.
::::As for establishing rules to prevent people from placing jokes within paragraphs, I highly doubt that will come to pass as most of the regular contributors and the administration staff write in this manner. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:28, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Seriously, people saying BAWWW WIKI NOT SERIOUS ENOUGH irritates the fuck out of me. I'm sorry our little collection of information about giant toy space robots isn't serious enough for you. Maybe you should go read a Serious Encyclopedia, like the one dedicated to Everything The Goddamn Ewoks Ever Did. That's a serious topic worthy of intense consideration, and it should be treated with the respect it deserves. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 13:49, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::People with names like ''FartboyExtreme'' complaining that the wiki isn't serious enough set off my bullshit meter something fierce.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 14:13, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::: That comment about writing this for other people really shit me up the wall. I was not aware I was doing this wiki as my job. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:07, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

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==Featured Article for October==

So...are we ever going to change the featured article? It's been Megatron for, like, two months now. [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] 03:58, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
:It depends on what the management thinks is complete enough in terms of length and content. I think Movie Prime's article should be given a go since October will be the month of the DVD release in the US and the article is more or less complete. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:14, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
:How about something other than a character page?--[[User:Zodberg|Zodberg]] 12:16, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
::I nominate Sector Seven, because the article is fairly thorough, references a lot of material, and will be useful to the fans directed here who liked the movie but haven't read all the minor, wacky background material. That article is still listed as a "Stub," though as with a great many "stubs" on this wiki I kind of don't see why. It could be made ''longer'', like all of them, but it's not like it's missing anything critical or is just a halfassed paragraph. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 14:33, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I think we should make articles for Rebecca Howard and Alexander Powers before we feature it, since they're pretty important to the ARG storyline, which, as you said, is the wacky background material 99% of people would never seen or heard of. Plus they're linked right at the start of the article. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:41, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

By the way when it comes doing the most wanted page list means I will do it but someone must back me up when I go do yardwork.(Spearhead 08:03, 7 October 2007 (UTC))

Sweet zombie Jesus, the Featured Article changed!!! I think I may faint! ...But one request: Please don't change it back to [[Megatron_%28G1%29|Megatron]] in November! --[[User:Starcrunch|Starcrunch]] 15:45, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Nice going guys. You finally got rid of Megatron... and then replaced him with Primal Prime, who's been on for three months. Either someone tell me how to change that article, or ''please'' replace it with something new--how about Optimus Prime's G1 toys? [[User:Crosshairs-1|"MovieMan"]] 11:17, 24 February 2008 (UTC)Crosshairs-1

== "By series" column is missing... ==

"Comics" for Beast Wars.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 13:51, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

== Just a little question... ==

Is there anywhere I can find a NON parody wiki? - Anonymous

: Right here? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:31, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:wikipedia--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 19:33, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
::But their TF pages suck. So dry and boring and light on content and all Mignashy. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:35, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Mostly the Mignashy part. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:48, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Wikipedia Transformers stuff is full on content! It's just all made up. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't think you understand the meaning of "parody", Mister Anonymous. "It has humor in it" is not what parody entails. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:48, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, plus beneath our bad captions and jokes there's a wealth of information you will not likely find anywhere else, at least not all in one place. I think people are too used to the "[insert franchise] is ''Serious Business''" natures of the large, dry wikis like Memory Alpha and the Star Wars Wiki. That or they are unable to laugh at Transformers because they take it too seriously. Or they think this entire wiki is written solely by Walky, and since they hate Walky, they hate the wiki. Those last people suck. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:58, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

== Logo--Good Wiki!==
Hi guys!!! This is a very creative wiki! But I am not keen on the logo. Right now is: [[Image:wiki.png]] 
{{unsigned|Thatkidjasper}}

:Please sign your posts to talk pages by typing four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) at the end.
:Also, you'll have more luck getting us to change our logo if you spend a few months as a regular contributor, first. [[User:JW|JW]] 19:22, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

How do u put your logo on the upper left?--[[User:Farragut79|Farragut79]] 14:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

== Caps? ==

Do we want to implement sabrblade's suggestion of replacing

(toyline/cartoon/comic)

with

(Toyline/Cartoon/Comic)

. . . ? Personally, I think it makes the page look more cluttered. [[User:JW|JW]] 22:07, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
:Well, I just thought it would make it look a little neater. I didn't mean anything by it. I also thought it would make more sense to change "comic" to "comics" under Generation 1 and Beast Wars since they both had more than one comic series. I also put a "comic" link under Beast Machines that goes to the Wreckers comic since that ''is'' a Beast Machines comic series. And I thought "comics" should be "comic" under Animated since so far it only had one comic series that we know of. And "Sequel" was already put under Transformers (2007), since I saw that it was capitalized, that's what gave me the idea to capitalize the rest. But I see that someone erased "Sequel" from the main page. [[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 23:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

== Putting Headmasters/Masterforce/Victory links in the "by series" column ==

Would anyone object if I put bulleted links for Headmaster/Masterforce/Victory in the "by series" column? I acknowledge that the series are linked under G1 articles, but it's arguable that they are not "true G1", but rather a non-canonical branch of that continuity.

For example:
* ''[[Generation 1]]'' ([[Generation 1 (toyline)|toyline]]/[[Generation 1 (cartoon)|cartoon]]/[[Generation 1 (comic)|comic]])
** ''[[Headmasters]]''
** ''[[Masterforce]]''
** ''[[Victory]]''
* ''[[Generation 2]]'' ([[Generation 2 (toyline)|toyline]]/[[Generation 2 (cartoon)|cartoon]]/[[Generation 2 (Marvel comic)|comic]])

And yes, I am a newb and I know that that impacts the consideration of my suggestion.

[[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 00:34, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:Headmasters/Masterforce/Victory ARE true, canonical G1, but I think the main page list is long enough already without us lengthening it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:37, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::I don't really have a problem with it, but yeah it would make the list longer too much. Besides, you forgot Zone, Battlestars, and Operation: Combination. [[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 00:50, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::1) I don't want to be combative, but can ItsWalky support the G1-canon assertion? Only the hardcore fanbase is familiar with the Japanese series. If these shows are G1, then why don't the G1 cartoon/comic/toy pages consistently contain info about those toys? For instance, the G1 toy page doesn't list the Japan-series-exclusive toys.
:::2) Each Japanese series has its own toyline/comic/cartoon links in this wiki. It only seems proper to list them here.
:::3) I disagree that this would make the list too long.
:::4) I'm afraid I don't know enough about Zone/Battlestars/Op:Com. Time to surf some more...
:::[[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 00:57, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::::In Transformers, and by the standards of this wiki, everything that is approved by Hasbro or Takara is canon. Without exception. It does not matter whether you have seen it or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:02, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::ItsWalky, do you have any non-length-related objection? [[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 01:29, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::Well, ItsWalky, since you're not buyin' his idea, how about this then. Make a drop-down list for all the JG1 series drop under the Generation 1 text by pressing a [+] button, ya know like the ones seen in Category pages and such. Does that sound okay? And maybe one to drop under Beast Wars for Beast Wars II and Neo? [[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 01:34, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

I am really not sure how we would jigger a collapsible continuity tree list. I would assume though if anyone knew how to accomplish this it would involve some sort of sinister faustian bargain with the fount of Dark Science that is [[User:Derik|Derik]].--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 01:42, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:Or we could just implement my suggestion. Problem solved! [[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 01:49, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::Not quite. You say, "put them on the list," he says, "no, it'll be too long," I say "compromise, a drop-down list '''if it's possible'''" [[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 02:17, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::If we include the various Japanese G1 franchises we would also need to include Battle For the Spark, Unicron Battles, Powerlinx Battles, Primus Unleashed and Allspark Battles. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:53, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::::None of those are quite the seperate, distinct entity that the Japanese lines mentioned are. BftS, etc. are sublines of their respective ongoing lines. Masterforce, Victory, etc. are mainlines themselves, with the only higher hierarchy level being "Transformers", or arguably "Transformers Japan".
::::I think the list is long enough. The Japanese series are all linked too off of the summary [[Generation 1]] page. A collapsible list would probably uglify the aesthetic table we have in place, to say nothing of the technical difficulties to make it work. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 05:15, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::'''Then it follows that some work should be done to include the japanese-exclusive toys from these series in the G1 toys pages, and include the japan-manga for these series in the G1 comics pages. Do you all think that is appropriate? The way I see it, these series are either within G1 (for the wiki), or they aren't. Right now it seems like they halfway are.'''[[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 16:40, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:Yay, I'm faustian! You have no idea how happy that makes me.
:Unfortunately, a quick investigation tells me that Wikia does not come equipped with any of the table-collapse scripts found on Wikipedia (they have custom ones for the table of contents and category trees, but they aren't cross-adaptable.) It ''might'' be possible to install one of them purely in the Monobook.js file we can edit (I feel like there might be PHP integration, which we can't) but even then the scripts are very limited, and don't do quite what we want.
:Wikipedia has generally be very, very distrustful of implementing those kind of drop-downs because of compatibility issues. Making Javascript a fundamental part of your site's navigation is bad because if someone turns it off or cripples its functions to suppress annoying ads... thennt his site ceases to function.
:So, while a drop-down may be ''possible'' with considerable effort, it brings entailed problems that would seem to outweigh any benefits it delivers. Without a more compelling application for a drop-down, I wouldn't be interested in even ''trying'' to get it working. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:18, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::Uh, I'm sorry, I don't know how I totally missed this conversation. The javascript that Derik describes here is not only not hard to do, but it's actually phenomenally easy. The only question is would it LOOK good on the page; I assure you, the technical end is not an issue.

::If anyone still cares. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 05:21, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

:Let me draw your attention to my bolded post above... Any comments? [[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 00:41, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
::I don't think we care enough about those series to list them. We prefer to mock them. List is too long, anyway. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

==Weird Wikia Spotlight image==
Is it just me or is that Autobot symbol Wikia is using to Spotlight our site an unofficial fan-made version? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:55, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, that's... pretty lame. You'd think they could have grabbed one of the ones here in the wiki. [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 09:00, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::God fucking dammit. That's Neale's erroneous font, with the three hash-marks per forehead instead of two. I will not allow this. Who do I yell at? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:45, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:I never thought an Autobrand could look so angry...-- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 02:05, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

:How to fix the image:
:1. make new image using official Autobot sigil from... anywhere
:2. go [[w:Image:Transformers-monaco.gif|here]].
:3. upload new image
:4. ???
:5. PROFIT!!! --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:41, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
::Man that is pretty dang shitty. Why does Wikia keep trying to make logos '''for''' us?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 03:00, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I have done my level best to try to turn our masthead into a little spotlight image there.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 03:15, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:::[[w:Image:Transformers120.png|Here]], actually. And done. Thank God. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:58, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Wow, much better! :D --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 09:14, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Walky, I [[W:Image:Transformers125.png|found another one]], I assume you have a larger original file that you can replace it with?. Hopefully they didn't make anymore, because that fake Autobot symbol is fucking awful. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:45, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

:Hi, guys -- I'm sorry that you didn't like the spotlight image, and I'm glad that you made your own. [[w:Image:Transformers-monaco.gif|This one]] is terrific; much better than the other one.

:If you guys ever have any concerns (or complaints) about the spotlights or any kind of promotional stuff, please let me know... We're trying to support you and your wiki, and obviously we don't want to do anything that you don't like. Teletraan I is an awesome wiki, and I want to make sure that lots of people know about it.

:So... I'm the person you yell at. And also, hopefully, I'm the person that you can come to with ideas about how to make your site better. Let me know what you think. -- [[User:Toughpigs|Danny]]<staff /> ([[User talk:Toughpigs|talk]]) 06:10, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

::Hi, at least speaking for myself, we're not actually that angry... I think :) Just that the fake Autobot symbol has some minor controversy surrounding it ever since it was accidently used by [[IDW Publishing]] for one of their [[Stormbringer issue 1|early Transformers comics]]. Plus, we try to keep on the good side of Hasbro by using their approved logos and such. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:10, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

:::Thank you for the response - and the desire to promote our wiki. I'd agree with FFN that there's not much actual anger here, and any dissatisfaction is easily remedied. Just let us know whenever you want to run any promos, and we'll cook up whatever imagery and so forth you need. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 21:28, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

::::Okay, cool. We're going to be building up an Entertainment-hub wiki pretty soon, and I may take you up on that offer. :) It's going to take us a little bit to figure out how to do it, but the idea is to have a place where people can promote their wiki, show off a bit, and make connections with other wiki people. It should be fun. I'll let you guys know when it goes up... -- [[User:Toughpigs|Danny]]<staff /> ([[User talk:Toughpigs|talk]]) 23:35, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

==Death becomes you==

Why not add a section relating to death in Transformers (character deaths, permanence etc) with a special section for the way Optimus' pop their clogs...a lot[[User:GWolfv2]]
:We have [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime]]. An article on [[Death]] in general might not be amiss. [[User:JW|JW]] 13:26, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::Well, I started it. It's very slim, cause I'm sure there's people out there more informed then me. I'll try and add what I can once a style is put in place [[User:GWolfv2]]

== april fools day plans ==

i recomend that for april fools day we lock the main page and save a copy of some of the longest/most important pages[[User:81.108.233.59|81.108.233.59]] 16:10, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:No real need to save a copy. Wiki software archives older versions automatically.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:23, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:And, the main page is already semiprotected. [[User:JW|JW]] 16:26, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

==Shift from movie to Animated?==
I'm just thinking that maybe the frontpage's "highlight" should change from the TF movie, which is well wound-down, to Animated, which is new and big and running full-steam. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:04, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
: Sure. That seems like an easy change... --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:19, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

== Featured article ==

We have had the same thing there for like 50 years{{unsigned|Human in Disguise|02:22, 7 April 2008}}
:Not really. Jhiaxus was only made a Featured Article on March 2, 2008.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 06:05, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
::With 6k articles, maybe we could switch the featured article every month?[[User:Spriteless|Spriteless]] 05:45, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
:::We try to when we can, but usually that involves a big push to improve the given article to featured article standards.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 06:30, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

== front tf page ==

i hate april fool pranks on my fave tf front page -dr
:What? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:11, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

== Funny ==
I think we should remove the funny nes on the page, If it stays, It will sound like a child has being messing up this place and Other people will think it doesn't make sense. [[User:Black rhino ranger|Black rhino ranger]] 09:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"> From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</div>

Talk:Main Page

2008-04-12T08:58:25Z

Black rhino ranger: /* front tf page */

THE FUNNY STAYS.
-The Management

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Please use this talk page for discussion about the [[Main Page]].

To discuss site-wide policies, please visit [[Transformers Wiki Talk:Community Portal|the Community Portal talk page]].

==Archives==
*[[Talk:Main_Page/Archive1|Archive1]]
*[[Talk:Main_Page/Archive2|Archive2]]

== The Funny ==

Maybe if the stuff you said was funny, no one would have a problem with it, but most of the jokes on here are pretty lame, it's not about transformers fans being serious, it's about your jokes being bad. When other people try to put there humor in it, you erase it. Sooooo make the jokes funny and you wont have to worry about it. Besides the Real Wikipedia has more information on transformers than the one dedicated to transformers have, what gives. Maybe before you work on your lame jokes you can fill out the information on the article. Sorry just what I think about it, don't take to much offence. {{unsigned|67.140.110.210}}

:Humor is subjective. Pesonally, I consider most of the jokes on this site to be neutral. They are clearly trying to be silly, but neither funny nor painful. They merely lighten the tone. Users who show up here and do nothing but change jokes into different jokes are clearly not accomplishing anything. The new jokes are never any better -- they are merely different, and often worse. That is a waste of everybody's time. I haven't spent a lot of time browsing Transformers material on Wikipedia, but I highly doubt that their information is ''better'', even if there might be a larger quantity of it. What little I've seen there has been disorganized, mixes fan assertions with canon, and is at times not even reliable. ''If'' they have more information than we do, it is only because people have been adding TF info there for at least twice as long as this specialized wiki has existed. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:57, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

::Yep, this wiki is a far more reliable source of information for Transformers than the Wikipedia shall ever be. I've corrected some of their base assumptions and half-truths upon occassion. If we lack information for something, '''then feel free to contribute''' to our wiki or wait for one of us to get around to it. Really, what the Wikipedia offers is rather generalised information and (as steve-o points out) fan-assumed fanon and downright false information. Besides, we provide the Transformers info that the users on the wikipedia either don't know or won't bother with, such as info on the toys, their designers, toy construction materials, obscure series and/or characters and so on.
:: And yes, we think captioning a picture of say, Megatron with 'Art of Megatron' or some such is really patronising. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:00, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I, as a fellow Transformer fan, agree that "the funny" is lame.

One time I tried to change [[Nautilator]]'s bio; stating that he carries a powerful weapon, transforms INTO a powerful weapon, and is an undersea version of [[Constructicon]] [[Scavager]]. But none of that went through.

I'm sensing "the bias" here.

[http://www.geocities.com/tenou_clock/ Tyrenol]

:''I, as a fellow Transformer fan, agree that "the funny" is lame.'' 
: Some of it is certainly very very lame. If you would like to raise the level of humor here, then A) become a regular and respected contributor of useful non-funny stuff, ''then'' B) improve the funny. What we most strongly object to is newcomers who contribute ''nothing'' except changes to the humor. Changing the funny is an earned privilege. [[User:JW|JW]] 19:44, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::'''Tyrenol:''' Your [[Nautilator (G1)|Nautilator]] bio was, as far as I can tell, at best [[fanon]] or at worst fan fiction. Steve-o (an admin) points out that your edit had nothing to do with the established Hasbro toy bio. Despite our humour and over-the-top references to a character's foibles, we base what we write on official material approved by Hasbro/Takara.

::That's not 'bias', that's the rules.

:::Okay, then. Here's another idea: How about you guys use the exact wording from the bios as oppose to just sticking stuff in and thinking that everyone else will agree with its hilariousness.

:::Besides; I have two problems with anything Wiki. 1) Things don't stay changed when they get changed. Annoyances like needed citations and reliable sources that have a problem staying reliable. 2) I have a life to live, a job to pay for where I live, and I really don't have the time to watch everything on the web like a cold-stare hawk.

:::My apologies for being new. My apologies for calling your jokes lame. But what is everybody doing on the web when they can't take the sharp, cold knife in the back that's called "criticism?" The same rules apply for me. [http://www.geocities.com/tenou_clock/ Tyrenol]

::::We have a specific policy AGAINST cut-and-pasting from bios, one of many reasons being that those are a) copyrighted and b) not always applicable. After all, Shockwave sure wasn't anything like his toy bio in the cartoon. Character overviews on this resource are "all-encompassing", in order to reflect changes and evolutions in the character. And what do you do when a character -like, say, Optimus Prime- has several dozen bios over the course of 20 years?
::::Maybe you should apologize for playing the "I have a life" card that screams "I have no actual argument so I'll imply you all are losers". And don't confuse "whinging" with "criticism", or "disagreeing with" as "can't take it". This argument has come up with many an anon IP who is more interested in fighting a long-established precedent for this wiki which has garnered far more positive attention than negative than they are in contributing, and if they didn't change thing one about it, neither will you. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]]

::As for humour being lame, let me ask you a question: Do you wander onto privately-run Tranformers fan sites and message boards, see something you don't like (that isn't necessarily offensive) and proceed to tell off the admins for how they run their website? Much of the reason the wiki is the way it is is because the people who run this wiki and the majority of regular contributors have a sense of humour. I find it odd that newcomers will question our policies as if they claim some sort of ownership over the wiki, yet have contributed little to it. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:24, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

:I'm a newcomer, but I have to admit that the policies regarding jokes ''prevent'' unfair bias, if anything. Additionally, it helps newcomers achieve a sense of ownership. Maybe we don't all get the lame obscure reference on [[Special:Random|whatever]] page, but whoever put it there probably thinks it's hilarious! Thanks to the established policies he/she doesn't need to worry about someone replacing it with another, equally-lame obscure reference. --[[User:Starcrunch|Starcrunch]] 19:05, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

::Make jokes and be merry. My message to any readers is if you get offended by jokes, then you take Transformers way too seriously :-D --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:01, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

:::haha... Transformers too seriously?! ''Only'' five of my nine open browser tabs are occupied with something Transformers related right now. If that's not moderation, then I don't know what is! ...but yes, if your reason for being put-off is a bent sense of humor, then you're probably in in the wrong place! --[[User:Starcrunch|Starcrunch]] 18:16, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I thought the Ladiesman217 article was funny. Needed some fixing for the caption with the police car. It's not funny.

When I read these articles for information, and some stupid joke gets thrown in, it really throws my thought process off. I'm sure it's that way for a lot of people too. Don't forget you're writing this for other people and it's not a good idea to screw with them, or whatever [[User:FartboyExtreme|FartboyExtreme]] 03:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:For every person that hates the joking and non-serious nature of the wiki, there's somebody else that loves it. If people can't hack the humour, well I'm sorry, but that's your problem. As for writing this for other people, I contribute to this wiki for the sheer pleasure of having fun with my stupid toy & cartoon hobby, not out of some obligation or duty to provide an encyclopedia for the fandom. As far as I am concerned, so long as we are accurate and detailed, we can also make light of our hobby. -[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:31, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
::I think there needs to be some rules on where the jokes can be. I personally don't mind them when they're in image captions and such, but I think in the middle of a paragraph isn't very appropriate. Know what I mean? [[User:FartboyExtreme|FartboyExtreme]] 21:01, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Could you provide an example of "middle of the paragraph" humor where you find it inappropriate?
:::Also, just a note: It's hard to take you seriously with that username. [[User:JW|JW]] 21:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
::::I think he's talking about things like my edits to [[Sparkplug Witwicky]]'s cartoon section where I said the Autobots saved the oil rig workers "from a death exactly the same as death", or references to characters freaking out.
::::As for establishing rules to prevent people from placing jokes within paragraphs, I highly doubt that will come to pass as most of the regular contributors and the administration staff write in this manner. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:28, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Seriously, people saying BAWWW WIKI NOT SERIOUS ENOUGH irritates the fuck out of me. I'm sorry our little collection of information about giant toy space robots isn't serious enough for you. Maybe you should go read a Serious Encyclopedia, like the one dedicated to Everything The Goddamn Ewoks Ever Did. That's a serious topic worthy of intense consideration, and it should be treated with the respect it deserves. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 13:49, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::People with names like ''FartboyExtreme'' complaining that the wiki isn't serious enough set off my bullshit meter something fierce.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 14:13, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::: That comment about writing this for other people really shit me up the wall. I was not aware I was doing this wiki as my job. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:07, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

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==Featured Article for October==

So...are we ever going to change the featured article? It's been Megatron for, like, two months now. [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] 03:58, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
:It depends on what the management thinks is complete enough in terms of length and content. I think Movie Prime's article should be given a go since October will be the month of the DVD release in the US and the article is more or less complete. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:14, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
:How about something other than a character page?--[[User:Zodberg|Zodberg]] 12:16, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
::I nominate Sector Seven, because the article is fairly thorough, references a lot of material, and will be useful to the fans directed here who liked the movie but haven't read all the minor, wacky background material. That article is still listed as a "Stub," though as with a great many "stubs" on this wiki I kind of don't see why. It could be made ''longer'', like all of them, but it's not like it's missing anything critical or is just a halfassed paragraph. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 14:33, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I think we should make articles for Rebecca Howard and Alexander Powers before we feature it, since they're pretty important to the ARG storyline, which, as you said, is the wacky background material 99% of people would never seen or heard of. Plus they're linked right at the start of the article. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:41, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

By the way when it comes doing the most wanted page list means I will do it but someone must back me up when I go do yardwork.(Spearhead 08:03, 7 October 2007 (UTC))

Sweet zombie Jesus, the Featured Article changed!!! I think I may faint! ...But one request: Please don't change it back to [[Megatron_%28G1%29|Megatron]] in November! --[[User:Starcrunch|Starcrunch]] 15:45, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Nice going guys. You finally got rid of Megatron... and then replaced him with Primal Prime, who's been on for three months. Either someone tell me how to change that article, or ''please'' replace it with something new--how about Optimus Prime's G1 toys? [[User:Crosshairs-1|"MovieMan"]] 11:17, 24 February 2008 (UTC)Crosshairs-1

== "By series" column is missing... ==

"Comics" for Beast Wars.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 13:51, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

== Just a little question... ==

Is there anywhere I can find a NON parody wiki? - Anonymous

: Right here? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:31, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:wikipedia--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 19:33, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
::But their TF pages suck. So dry and boring and light on content and all Mignashy. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:35, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Mostly the Mignashy part. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:48, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Wikipedia Transformers stuff is full on content! It's just all made up. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't think you understand the meaning of "parody", Mister Anonymous. "It has humor in it" is not what parody entails. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:48, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, plus beneath our bad captions and jokes there's a wealth of information you will not likely find anywhere else, at least not all in one place. I think people are too used to the "[insert franchise] is ''Serious Business''" natures of the large, dry wikis like Memory Alpha and the Star Wars Wiki. That or they are unable to laugh at Transformers because they take it too seriously. Or they think this entire wiki is written solely by Walky, and since they hate Walky, they hate the wiki. Those last people suck. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:58, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

== Logo--Good Wiki!==
Hi guys!!! This is a very creative wiki! But I am not keen on the logo. Right now is: [[Image:wiki.png]] 
{{unsigned|Thatkidjasper}}

:Please sign your posts to talk pages by typing four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) at the end.
:Also, you'll have more luck getting us to change our logo if you spend a few months as a regular contributor, first. [[User:JW|JW]] 19:22, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

How do u put your logo on the upper left?--[[User:Farragut79|Farragut79]] 14:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

== Caps? ==

Do we want to implement sabrblade's suggestion of replacing

(toyline/cartoon/comic)

with

(Toyline/Cartoon/Comic)

. . . ? Personally, I think it makes the page look more cluttered. [[User:JW|JW]] 22:07, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
:Well, I just thought it would make it look a little neater. I didn't mean anything by it. I also thought it would make more sense to change "comic" to "comics" under Generation 1 and Beast Wars since they both had more than one comic series. I also put a "comic" link under Beast Machines that goes to the Wreckers comic since that ''is'' a Beast Machines comic series. And I thought "comics" should be "comic" under Animated since so far it only had one comic series that we know of. And "Sequel" was already put under Transformers (2007), since I saw that it was capitalized, that's what gave me the idea to capitalize the rest. But I see that someone erased "Sequel" from the main page. [[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 23:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

== Putting Headmasters/Masterforce/Victory links in the "by series" column ==

Would anyone object if I put bulleted links for Headmaster/Masterforce/Victory in the "by series" column? I acknowledge that the series are linked under G1 articles, but it's arguable that they are not "true G1", but rather a non-canonical branch of that continuity.

For example:
* ''[[Generation 1]]'' ([[Generation 1 (toyline)|toyline]]/[[Generation 1 (cartoon)|cartoon]]/[[Generation 1 (comic)|comic]])
** ''[[Headmasters]]''
** ''[[Masterforce]]''
** ''[[Victory]]''
* ''[[Generation 2]]'' ([[Generation 2 (toyline)|toyline]]/[[Generation 2 (cartoon)|cartoon]]/[[Generation 2 (Marvel comic)|comic]])

And yes, I am a newb and I know that that impacts the consideration of my suggestion.

[[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 00:34, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:Headmasters/Masterforce/Victory ARE true, canonical G1, but I think the main page list is long enough already without us lengthening it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:37, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::I don't really have a problem with it, but yeah it would make the list longer too much. Besides, you forgot Zone, Battlestars, and Operation: Combination. [[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 00:50, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::1) I don't want to be combative, but can ItsWalky support the G1-canon assertion? Only the hardcore fanbase is familiar with the Japanese series. If these shows are G1, then why don't the G1 cartoon/comic/toy pages consistently contain info about those toys? For instance, the G1 toy page doesn't list the Japan-series-exclusive toys.
:::2) Each Japanese series has its own toyline/comic/cartoon links in this wiki. It only seems proper to list them here.
:::3) I disagree that this would make the list too long.
:::4) I'm afraid I don't know enough about Zone/Battlestars/Op:Com. Time to surf some more...
:::[[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 00:57, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::::In Transformers, and by the standards of this wiki, everything that is approved by Hasbro or Takara is canon. Without exception. It does not matter whether you have seen it or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:02, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::ItsWalky, do you have any non-length-related objection? [[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 01:29, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::Well, ItsWalky, since you're not buyin' his idea, how about this then. Make a drop-down list for all the JG1 series drop under the Generation 1 text by pressing a [+] button, ya know like the ones seen in Category pages and such. Does that sound okay? And maybe one to drop under Beast Wars for Beast Wars II and Neo? [[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 01:34, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

I am really not sure how we would jigger a collapsible continuity tree list. I would assume though if anyone knew how to accomplish this it would involve some sort of sinister faustian bargain with the fount of Dark Science that is [[User:Derik|Derik]].--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 01:42, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:Or we could just implement my suggestion. Problem solved! [[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 01:49, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::Not quite. You say, "put them on the list," he says, "no, it'll be too long," I say "compromise, a drop-down list '''if it's possible'''" [[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 02:17, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::If we include the various Japanese G1 franchises we would also need to include Battle For the Spark, Unicron Battles, Powerlinx Battles, Primus Unleashed and Allspark Battles. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:53, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::::None of those are quite the seperate, distinct entity that the Japanese lines mentioned are. BftS, etc. are sublines of their respective ongoing lines. Masterforce, Victory, etc. are mainlines themselves, with the only higher hierarchy level being "Transformers", or arguably "Transformers Japan".
::::I think the list is long enough. The Japanese series are all linked too off of the summary [[Generation 1]] page. A collapsible list would probably uglify the aesthetic table we have in place, to say nothing of the technical difficulties to make it work. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 05:15, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::'''Then it follows that some work should be done to include the japanese-exclusive toys from these series in the G1 toys pages, and include the japan-manga for these series in the G1 comics pages. Do you all think that is appropriate? The way I see it, these series are either within G1 (for the wiki), or they aren't. Right now it seems like they halfway are.'''[[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 16:40, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:Yay, I'm faustian! You have no idea how happy that makes me.
:Unfortunately, a quick investigation tells me that Wikia does not come equipped with any of the table-collapse scripts found on Wikipedia (they have custom ones for the table of contents and category trees, but they aren't cross-adaptable.) It ''might'' be possible to install one of them purely in the Monobook.js file we can edit (I feel like there might be PHP integration, which we can't) but even then the scripts are very limited, and don't do quite what we want.
:Wikipedia has generally be very, very distrustful of implementing those kind of drop-downs because of compatibility issues. Making Javascript a fundamental part of your site's navigation is bad because if someone turns it off or cripples its functions to suppress annoying ads... thennt his site ceases to function.
:So, while a drop-down may be ''possible'' with considerable effort, it brings entailed problems that would seem to outweigh any benefits it delivers. Without a more compelling application for a drop-down, I wouldn't be interested in even ''trying'' to get it working. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:18, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::Uh, I'm sorry, I don't know how I totally missed this conversation. The javascript that Derik describes here is not only not hard to do, but it's actually phenomenally easy. The only question is would it LOOK good on the page; I assure you, the technical end is not an issue.

::If anyone still cares. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 05:21, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

:Let me draw your attention to my bolded post above... Any comments? [[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 00:41, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
::I don't think we care enough about those series to list them. We prefer to mock them. List is too long, anyway. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

==Weird Wikia Spotlight image==
Is it just me or is that Autobot symbol Wikia is using to Spotlight our site an unofficial fan-made version? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:55, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, that's... pretty lame. You'd think they could have grabbed one of the ones here in the wiki. [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 09:00, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::God fucking dammit. That's Neale's erroneous font, with the three hash-marks per forehead instead of two. I will not allow this. Who do I yell at? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:45, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:I never thought an Autobrand could look so angry...-- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 02:05, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

:How to fix the image:
:1. make new image using official Autobot sigil from... anywhere
:2. go [[w:Image:Transformers-monaco.gif|here]].
:3. upload new image
:4. ???
:5. PROFIT!!! --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:41, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
::Man that is pretty dang shitty. Why does Wikia keep trying to make logos '''for''' us?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 03:00, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I have done my level best to try to turn our masthead into a little spotlight image there.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 03:15, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:::[[w:Image:Transformers120.png|Here]], actually. And done. Thank God. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:58, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Wow, much better! :D --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 09:14, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Walky, I [[W:Image:Transformers125.png|found another one]], I assume you have a larger original file that you can replace it with?. Hopefully they didn't make anymore, because that fake Autobot symbol is fucking awful. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:45, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

:Hi, guys -- I'm sorry that you didn't like the spotlight image, and I'm glad that you made your own. [[w:Image:Transformers-monaco.gif|This one]] is terrific; much better than the other one.

:If you guys ever have any concerns (or complaints) about the spotlights or any kind of promotional stuff, please let me know... We're trying to support you and your wiki, and obviously we don't want to do anything that you don't like. Teletraan I is an awesome wiki, and I want to make sure that lots of people know about it.

:So... I'm the person you yell at. And also, hopefully, I'm the person that you can come to with ideas about how to make your site better. Let me know what you think. -- [[User:Toughpigs|Danny]]<staff /> ([[User talk:Toughpigs|talk]]) 06:10, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

::Hi, at least speaking for myself, we're not actually that angry... I think :) Just that the fake Autobot symbol has some minor controversy surrounding it ever since it was accidently used by [[IDW Publishing]] for one of their [[Stormbringer issue 1|early Transformers comics]]. Plus, we try to keep on the good side of Hasbro by using their approved logos and such. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:10, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

:::Thank you for the response - and the desire to promote our wiki. I'd agree with FFN that there's not much actual anger here, and any dissatisfaction is easily remedied. Just let us know whenever you want to run any promos, and we'll cook up whatever imagery and so forth you need. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 21:28, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

::::Okay, cool. We're going to be building up an Entertainment-hub wiki pretty soon, and I may take you up on that offer. :) It's going to take us a little bit to figure out how to do it, but the idea is to have a place where people can promote their wiki, show off a bit, and make connections with other wiki people. It should be fun. I'll let you guys know when it goes up... -- [[User:Toughpigs|Danny]]<staff /> ([[User talk:Toughpigs|talk]]) 23:35, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

==Death becomes you==

Why not add a section relating to death in Transformers (character deaths, permanence etc) with a special section for the way Optimus' pop their clogs...a lot[[User:GWolfv2]]
:We have [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime]]. An article on [[Death]] in general might not be amiss. [[User:JW|JW]] 13:26, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::Well, I started it. It's very slim, cause I'm sure there's people out there more informed then me. I'll try and add what I can once a style is put in place [[User:GWolfv2]]

== april fools day plans ==

i recomend that for april fools day we lock the main page and save a copy of some of the longest/most important pages[[User:81.108.233.59|81.108.233.59]] 16:10, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:No real need to save a copy. Wiki software archives older versions automatically.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:23, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:And, the main page is already semiprotected. [[User:JW|JW]] 16:26, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

==Shift from movie to Animated?==
I'm just thinking that maybe the frontpage's "highlight" should change from the TF movie, which is well wound-down, to Animated, which is new and big and running full-steam. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:04, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
: Sure. That seems like an easy change... --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:19, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

== Featured article ==

We have had the same thing there for like 50 years{{unsigned|Human in Disguise|02:22, 7 April 2008}}
:Not really. Jhiaxus was only made a Featured Article on March 2, 2008.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 06:05, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
::With 6k articles, maybe we could switch the featured article every month?[[User:Spriteless|Spriteless]] 05:45, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
:::We try to when we can, but usually that involves a big push to improve the given article to featured article standards.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 06:30, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

== front tf page ==

i hate april fool pranks on my fave tf front page -dr
:What? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:11, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

== Funny stuff ==
We better make the funnyness stop other People who only saw this once will think it doesn't make sense. [[User:Black rhino ranger|Black rhino ranger]] 08:58, 12 April 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"> From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</div>

Headstrong (G1)

2008-04-12T08:55:53Z

Black rhino ranger: Very rude indeed

Tigerhawk

2008-04-11T13:18:31Z

Black rhino ranger: /* Beast Wars */

:''Tigerhawk is a [[Maximal]] and emissary of [[Vok|the Vok]] from the [[Beast Wars]] era of the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:TigerhawkGenesis1.jpg|right|250px|thumb|800-Ton Jesus.]]

In the fires of an unknown place between time and space, the [[Vok]] aliens de-Sparked and fused the bodies of [[Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]] together to form '''Tigerhawk''', a Vok-controlled super warrior intended to bring justice to the time-disrupting Transformers on prehistoric [[Earth]]. But when the two extracted Sparks unite and re-enter Tigerhawk's body, a different purpose and personality seems to emerge.

Tigerhawk is by far the most powerful Transformers in the Beast Wars. In robot mode, Tigerhawk can fly, has missile launchers under each arm, his wings double as shields, and he has wrist-mounted electricity cannons. His beast mode contains razor sharp claws and teeth, as well as a pair of chainguns on his forearms. However, these outstanding powers are nothing compared to his uncanny shamanic abilities to control the weather and terrain of Earth almost at whim.

:''Japanese name'': '''Tigerfalcon'''

==Fiction==
===Beast Wars===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Blu Mankuma]] (English), [[Kōichi Tōchika]] (Japanese)

[[Image:OtherVictories_BirthofTigerhawk.jpg|thumb|left|250px|You see, when two Vok love each other very much...]]

Concerned with [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron's]] constant futzing with the timestream, the Vok extracted the Sparks of the inert, captive Maximals [[Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]]. Their bodies were merged together to form the staggeringly powerful Tigerhawk. Inhabited by two members of the Vok species, Tigerhawk travelled to Earth as a blindingly powerful energy comet.

Tigerhawk's energy-ball plunged to Earth, impacting and utterly destroying the [[Darksyde]]. Declaring himself the emissary of the Vok, he charged Megatron with "the willful disruption of time and space", and demanded Megatron's immediate surrender. Megatron was not so keen on this idea, and ordered a Predacon attack instead. Tigerhawk engaged and effortlessly defeated the entire [[Predacon]] force, then shot down Megatron. [[Optimus Primal]] arrived at that point, concerned that if Megatron was killed, the Spark of the original Megatron would also be destroyed, thus worsening the damage to the time stream. Tigerhawk dismissed Primal's concerns as intolerable interference, and buried him in the ground with a wave of his hand. Tigerhawk was seconds away from executing the unconscious Predacon leader when Tarantulas disabled him with specialized versions of his arachnoid helper-drones.

[[Image:OtherVictories_clash.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Flying Tiger, Hidden Dragon]]

Tigerhawk awoke to find himself a captive in [[Tarantulas]]' lair. The spider attempted to destroy Tigerhawk's mind by forcefully removing the Vok presence inhabiting it. Due to a fluke coincidence, Tarantulas only succeeded in destroying himself, alongside the Vok who had controlled Tigerhawk. The Sparks of Airazor and Tigatron, which followed Tigerhawk to Earth, merged to become one and entered Tigerhawk's body.{{storylink|Other Victories}}

Tigerhawk's memories appeared vague{{m-}}at first he seemed not to remember being Tigatron or Airazor, yet after a moment he recognized Earth as "home". He remembered enough specifics of the Beast Wars to find surprising the appearance of [[Cheetor]] as a Transmetal 2 and [[Optimus Primal]] in his "Optimal" form.{{storylink|Nemesis Part 1}}

[[Image:BWNemesisPt2_deathofTigerhawk.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Unit Tigerhawk, Terminated!]]

Megatron, not long afterwards, discovered the Decepticon warship ''[[Nemesis (G1)|Nemesis]]'', and attempted to use it to destroy the ''[[Ark]]'' itself. Tigerhawk attempted to single-handedly stop the ''Nemesis'', and despite holding his own for quite some time against the legendary warship as well as simultaneously draining the ship of it's power just by holding it off, he was killed by the ship's main cannon.{{storylink|Nemesis Part 2}}

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===Primeval Dawn===

===Beast Wars Metals manga===
{{note|Although it picks up after the first season, the ''Beast Wars Metals'' manga is not in-continuity with the television series.}}

[[Image:Tigerfalcon1.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Four'' katanas, 'cuz godlike elemental powers just aren't enough.]]

At one point, [[Airazor (BW)|Transmetal Airazor's]] [[spark]] became separated from her body, and her body was then possessed by a malevolent force. Airazor's body did battle with [[Tigatron]], though Tigatron could not bring himself to hurt Airazor due to his affection for her. Desiring death over harming her, Tigatron gave her one of his katana and knelt down.

As evil Airazor struck his neck with the blade, the real Airazor's spark traveled through the katana and into Tigatron's body. Inside cyberspace, the two reunited Maximals embraced, vowing never to be apart again. As their sparks joined, Tigatron and Airazor were reborn as the powerful Tigerhawk! (How romantic!){{storylink|Beast Wars Metals (manga)|Beast Wars Metals}}

===3H comics===

[[Razorclaw (Universe)|Razorclaw]] was an alternate version of Tigerhawk. Unfortunately, one of the differences was his being evil and in league with [[Unicron]].{{storylink|Universe (comic)|Universe}}

==Toys==
===Beast Wars===
*'''Tigerhawk''' (Transmetal 2 Ultra, 1999)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-50'''

[[Image:BW_Tigerhawk_toy.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Fly, my kitty! Fly!!]]

: Tigerhawk transforms into half-robotic, half-technorganic, flying robot tiger-thing. Yes. In beast mode, he is armed with "feather" missiles very similar to the Fuzor [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)|Silverbolt's]], with spring-loaded switches to flip the wings forward, and flip-out missile launchers which activate when a lever on Tigerhawk's back is pulled (which also moves the wings). Under his beast head is a small cockpit with a pilot's chair (see Trivia below).

: Like ''Transmetal 2'' Megatron, Tigerhawk features a somewhat aborted "third mode", which is just a minor rearrangement of his beast mode parts with his vacuum-metalized helmet covering his beast tiger head.

: In robot mode, Tigerhawk has a decent level of articulation, though his elbow joints are designed in such a way as to be not particularly useful. Due to his heels being vacuum-metalized, they are especially susceptible to scratching, as owners are likely to reposition them frequently to cope better with the heavy wings and gimmicks on his back.

:This mold was later used to make ''[[Universe]]'' [[Razorclaw (Universe)|Razorclaw]].

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==Trivia==
[[Image:BWRConcept25.jpg|200px|thumb|One Winged Angel]]

*The extremely short duration of Tigerhawk's appearance on the show was the result of a strange confluence of factors. At the time, it was not at all certain that the ''Beast Wars'' franchise would be ending. However, at one point, after Tigerhawk had already been written into the show at Hasbro's explicit request, the company considered not releasing his toy at all. Thus he was ordered killed off immediately, and was.<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/rec.toys.transformers.moderated/browse_frm/thread/1f02d1311fc9de33/05dc8df47640b9b7?lnk=st&q=script#05dc8df47640b9b7| Larry DiTillio explains Tigerhawk's strange, short life.]</ref> Hasbro eventually decided to release the toy regardless. Tigerhawk's toy did not appear on shelves until well after his death on the show.

*In the ''Beast Wars Metals'' manga, Tigatron was interpreted as a samurai; the katana being their weapon of choice. Hence the whole samurai motif for Tigerhawk.

*Originally, Tigerhawk, along with [[Optimal Optimus]] and Transmetal 2 Megatron were to have small driver-like figures sitting on control chairs located in cockpits on their bodies. These drivers were meant to represent their sparks. But [[Hasbro]] then later realized that kids might confuse these spark representations as drivers controlling the robots, so they were abandoned, but the cockpits remain. The spark pilot was eventually used in the Japanese release of [[Cryotek]].

*Even before they were combined into Tigerhawk, Airazor and Tigatron had a gender-ambiguous history. Tigatron was a male robot with a beast mode that seemed to be scanned from a female tiger, while Airazor was a female character in the English version of the show and male in the Japanese version.

*Although often thought of as a [[Fuzor]] because of his two-combined-animals beast mode, Tigerhawk was never officially designated as such.

*Tigerhawk's toy features a bird like helmet, which when placed over his tiger head, resembles Battle Cat. For some reason, the cartoon model didn't have this feature.

==References==
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==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/1999/Maximal/Tigerhawk/tigerhawk.htm Tigerhawk at TFU.info]

[[Category: Beast Wars characters]]
[[Category: Maximals]]
[[Category: Transmetals 2]]
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Along Came a Spider

2008-04-08T16:12:32Z

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{{episodenav|animated|9|season=1|prev=Nanosec (episode)|next=Sound and Fury}}

[[Image:Blackarach anim beast.jpg|right|thumb|300px|[[Wikipedia:Spider-Woman_%28Jessica_Drew%29#Spider-Woman|To know her is to fear her!]]]]

'''Bumblebee and Bulkhead's first Halloween turns even spookier when they encounter a giant spider that turns out to be the deadly Decepticon Blackarachnia.'''

==Synopsis==
[[Sari Sumdac|Sari]] introduces [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]], [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] and [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] to the concept of [[Halloween]], starting with selecting pumpkins. As she explains the idea of choosing just the right costume, Prime's attention is distracted by a large black widow spider decoration. He remembers back to his academy days...

[[Image:Alongcameaspiderthreefriends.jpg|left|thumb|250px|"So once again, we find that evil of the past seeps into the present like salad dressing through cheap wax paper, mixing memory and desire."]]
''On an organic world, Optimus and his friend '''Elita-1''' admire the strange webbing stretching across the high rocks, not knowing what it is, until [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]] calls to them to hurry up. Optimus cautions about the fact that such worlds are normally considered off-limits to Autobots, but there's supposedly a real Decepticon ship somewhere in the area. Elita's there for the historical value, but Sentinel just wants to get his hands on the [[energon]] cache that must be in it. Prime's still wary of potential punishment should they get caught, but figures he has to keep the other two from getting in over their heads. Sentinel insists that never happens{{m-}}right before the ground crumbles under their feet, sending all three plunging into a deep cavern. Strange, skittering noises echo from its dark reaches. Optimus activates his shoulder-light to see...''

Bulkhead snaps Prime's attention back to the present by donning a bedsheet (which just covers his head) and going "Boo," startling his leader. Prime claims a ghost from his past just has him jumpy, then stalks off.

Back at the Autobot base, Sari critiques Bumblebee and Bulkhead's costumes, but says her own costume is only one surprise planned for the night. Noticing Prime lost in thought, she uses her key to activate one of the car plant's cranes, swinging another spider decoration in his face. The unexpected sight of it gives Prime a bad flashback, and he quickly hacks the fake spider to bits. He admonishes Sari for making frivolous use of the All Spark Key, and she counters about him needlessly using his axe. Prime stares down at the remains of the decoration, and his thoughts travel back again...

''As Prime, Elita and Sentinel walk through the cavern, Sentinel enthuses about the rich hoard of energon he's sure they'll find soon. Prime shushes him as he hears something, and soon all three are casting their lights about, trying to pinpoint the skittering. The source reveals itself as an enormous, alien spider, which quickly traps Elita with some webbing. As Prime fights it off, Sentinel frees her with his charged shield, but the spider abruptly takes him down. Elita starts using her special power-download ability, but Optimus, holding back the spider, tells her it won't work on organics. She instead borrows the unconscious Sentinel's shield power and shield itself, using them to defend herself, then to bring down a huge stalactite to impale the spider. As Sentinel wakes up and Elita returns his shield, Prime says that it's not worth staying around, be it for history or energon. Sentinel still insists on one good reason to leave, and he gets three when another trio of giant spiders drop down to confront them. Sentinel quickly puts up his shield's energy barrier, covering Prime and Elita's retreat. Prime rolls out, and Elita follows, calling his name...''

[[Image:Saricostume.jpg|right|thumb|100px|Arise, Sarimus Prime.]]
Prime suddenly becomes aware of Sari calling his name to show off her costume{{m-}}a costume of him. He doesn't appreciate her vocal impersonation of him, and declines to join the trio on their trick-or-treat outing.

As Sari and the two Autobots progress though a local neighborhood, Bumblebee is a bit spooked by the atmosphere. Sari reminds him it's all pretend...unaware they're being tracked by an enormous spider traveling over the rooftops. As she coaches them through their first actual "trick or treat," Bumblebee spots the spider watching them and freaks out, but it's gone before anyone else sees it. Sari teases him for being more timid than Optimus, but 'Bee protests he knows the difference between a fake decoration and a real giant spider. Listening in from headquarters, Prime has Bumblebee clarify what he saw, then heads out to meet them, advising them to stay put. As Prime [[rolls out]], his thoughts roll back...

''Racing through the caverns, Prime reaches the wreckage of a Decepticon warship. Separated from the other two, he heads inside, hoping to find them there. Instead, he finds an impressive stash of energon cubes, just as Sentinel predicted. He also finds an impressive stash of giant spider eggs. As the spiderlings hatch and start attacking, Prime gets stuck on some webbing, but Elita shows up in time to help. As they fight to escape from more full-grown spiders, Prime has Elita borrow his grappler ability. They bring down a huge stalactite through the ship's ruined overhead, grappling their way out as the energon detonates below them. However, Elita's download ability times out just then, and she goes plunging back too fast for Prime to catch her. Sentinel arrives on top of the ship as she plummets into the hold, but knowing the energon is going to blow any second, Prime grapples himself and Sentinel to safety rather than risk going after Elita just then. Once they break the surface, Prime scans for Elita's energy signature, but doesn't find it. A furious Sentinel blames everything on Prime.''

In the present, still en route to Sari and company's location, Prime swears he won't let it happen again. Meanwhile, Bumblebee stresses that they have to stay vigilant until Prime arrives{{m-}}even as Sari is yanked out from under them by the giant spider. Bumblebee quickly cuts Sari free, but as he and Bulkhead surround the spider, it transforms into a female robot who calls herself '''[[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]]'''. Sari's not too surprised or impressed by her femininity, but it makes a much bigger impression on Bulkhead{{m-}}right up to the point Blackarachnia stabs him with two of her spider legs, knocking him out. She quickly gives Bumblebee the same treatment, then tells Sari they should go, now that Sari's safe. Sari protests the two Autobots are her friends, and Blackarachnia apologizes, pretending she can't tell which robots are good or bad on Earth. As Sari futilely tries to revive Bulkhead with her All Spark Key, Blackarachnia notes that the organic nature of her venom precludes that solution, since the All Spark doesn't affect organics. She offers to try helping the Autobots if Sari will just hand her the key, but her ruse is interrupted when Prime lassos her legs out from under her. Blackarachnia appears shocked to see him, but quickly frees herself and starts fighting back{{m-}}using Bumblebee's stingers and Bulkhead's strength. Instead of borrowing any of Prime's powers, though, she judo-throws him across the street, then kidnaps Sari.

Prime desperately pursues the pair across the rooftops. He catches up, stuns BA with a faceful of foam, then grapples Sari free. Despite this respite and Sari's warning, Blackarachnia still catches Prime half-unaware. He fights back, but she dodges him constantly, claiming to know all his textbook Autobot Academy moves. Prime wonders if he knows her, and she berates him for forgetting his friends{{m-}}even if he remembered Sentinel. Prime is stunned to realize he's facing Elita-1. She finally relates what really happened that day:

''Trapped in the ship and surrounded by the spiders, Elita tries desperately to download their abilities. Instead, she is infected with their venom, and it mutates her into a freak, a half-organic, half-robotic being.''

Prime realizes that her half-organic nature is what masked her energy signature from his scans. BA sneers that if he'd known and saved her, she'd just have been dismantled and examined on some lab table on Cybertron. Prime reproves her for joining the Decepticons, but she counters that at least she knows where she stands with them. She webs up Prime and snatches Sari's key, certain that if anything can purge her organic half, it can. She plugs it into herself, but the unleashed energies begin causing all organic life in range, including Sari, to wither and sicken. Prime breaks free, but before he can stop Blackarachnia, she grabs up Sari and throws her off the roof. Sari snags a flagpole long enough for Bumblebee and Bulkhead to save her, leaving Prime free to deal with Blackarachnia. She collapses on her own, though. Prime surmises her spark can't survive without her organic half, but she's too weak to pull out the key and stop the reaction. Prime forces through the energy barrier around her and removes it for her, restoring the organic life in the area to normal. As he helps her up, Blackarachnia asks him to go, not wanting to be seen like that. Still calling her Elita, Prime asks her to come with them, promising his group will find a cure, and allow him to earn back her trust. She seems to respond positively, but it's another sham. Blackarachnia stabs him unconscious and leaves, vowing it will be a long time before she trusts another Autobot, especially him.

Later, Prime returns Sari's key. She thanks him and admits he was right{{m-}}maybe it's time she gave the key a rest. Bumblebee trundles in painfully, still damaged from his fall after catching Sari, and asks if she could use it once more. Bulkhead asks who the bug-bot lady was, and Prime responds it was someone he should never have left behind. Elsewhere, Blackarachnia stands on a rooftop, gazing at the moon and sobbing over her fate.

==Stats==

*'''Written by:''' [[Marty Isenberg]]
*'''Directed by:''' [[Matt Youngberg]], [[Irineo Maramba]], [[Yutaka Kagawa]]
*'''Original airdate:''' February 16, 2008

===Featured characters===
(''Numbers indicate order of appearance.)''
{|border=5 cellpadding=5 cellspacing=5 align=center style="border:#800000"

! style="background:#FFEEEE" | [[Autobot]]s
! style="background:#EEEEFE" | [[Decepticon]]s
! style="background:antiquewhite" | [[Human]]s
|-
| style="background:#FFEEEE" valign="top" |
*[[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead ]] (2)
*[[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] (3)
*[[Optimus Prime (Animated) |Optimus Prime]] (4)
*[[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Elita-1]] (Flashback) (5)
*[[Sentinel Prime (Animated) |Sentinel Prime]] (Flashback) (6)
| style="background:#EEEEFE" valign="top" |
*[[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]] (7)
| style="background:antiquewhite" valign="top" |
*[[Sari Sumdac]] (1)
|}

==Quotes==
"Beautiful, isn't it?" 
"Yeah...what is it?" 
"I have no idea." 
:{{m-}}'''Elita-1''' and '''Optimus Prime''' admire the webs.

'''Optimus''': Somebody's gotta keep you two walking malfunctions from getting in over your heads. 
'''Sentinel''': We ''never'' get in over our heads. 
''[The ground crumbles underneath them, causing them to fall into a cavern. Optimus gives Sentinel a look.]'' 
'''Sentinel''': What? 
:{{m-}}'''Optimus Prime''' and '''Sentinel Prime'''

'''Bumblebee''': ''[Bad Slavic accent]'' Velcome. I am Count Dracubot. I vant to drink your motor oil. 
'''Bulkhead''': Hey, guys! I finally found something big enough for my ghost costume. 
''[Fumes surround his feet, causing Sari to cough]'' 
'''Sari''': Bulkhead, where did you get that sheet? 
'''Bulkhead''': It was just draped over some house. Weird place to put a bed sheet. 
'''Sari''': Oh, that's not a bedsheet. It's a fumigation tent. 
'''Bulkhead''': Really...? What's a fumigation tent? 
''[As well as the fumes, Bulkhead's feet are now covered in dead cockroaches.]''
:{{m-}}'''Sari''' sees the Autobots' costumes.

"I've got a good feeling about this. Any cycle now, we're gonna be overflowing with rich, All Spark-infused, energon-y goodness!" 
"Did you really just say 'energon-y goodness'?" 
:{{m-}}'''Sentinel Prime's''' speech <strike>tick</strike>{{m-}}er, tic bemuses '''Elita-1'''.

'''Sari''': Optimus! Check out my costume! 
''[Camera reveals that Sari is Optimus Prime]'' 
'''Sari''': ''[Imitating Optimus]'' Oh, look at me. I'm Optimus Prime. I'm scared of spiders. 
''[Bumblebee and Bulkhead chuckle]'' 
'''Optimus''': That's ''not'' what I sound like...is it? 
'''Bumblebee''': Last chance to join us, Boss Bot. 
'''Optimus''': Thanks, but I'll pass. Just be careful out there, all right? 
'''Sari''': Don't worry. I'll keep these guys out of trouble. ''[Imitating Optimus]'' Transform and roll out! 
''[Optimus gives Sari a look]'' 
'''Sari''': Couldn't resist. 
:{{m-}}'''Sari''' and the Autobots roast '''Optimus Prime'''.

'''Bumblebee''': Who are you? 
'''Bulkhead''': What are you? 
'''Sari''': Duh. She's a girl. 
:{{m-}}The gang meets '''Blackarachnia'''.

"This is all ''your fault!''" 
:{{m-}}'''Sentinel Prime''', blaming Optimus for the disaster that happened on an excursion he suggested. Jerk.

"So, who ''was'' that bug-bot lady?" 
"Someone I never should have left behind." 
:{{m-}}'''Bulkhead''' and '''Optimus Prime''' talk some heavy stuff.

==Other notes==

===Animation and/or technical glitches===
* Shortly after Sentinel says that he and Optimus should go back for Elita when the Decepticon ship explodes, his nose and forehead are painted silver, like Optimus.
===Animated errors===
In the scene where optimus has found some energon cubes, a head of Black Arachnia was seen on the floor.

===Transformers references===
* In the [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|Generation 1 animated series]], [[Elita One (G1)|Elita One]] was [[Optimus Prime (G1)|G1 Optimus Prime's]] paramour. The ''Animated'' incarnation of the character refrains from attempting to visually homage the original pink-and-white Elita, instead creating a blue-and-yellow pony-tailed character who bears a resemblance to Elita's earlier (pony-tailed) form, [[Ariel]]. Her relationship with Prime is less distinct (it almost appears as if she's ''Sentinel's'' girlfriend at one point), with this episode's flashbacks not suggesting any romantic connection between the two, but the present-day scenes suggesting ''some'' kind of personal tension (though that could be guilt on Prime's part and anger on Elita's).
* Sentinel Prime is depicted here as Optimus Prime's friend and peer, whereas in all other series he's either been Prime's mentor, a superior officer, or a predecessor. In this way it seems the roles of Sentinel and [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]] have been reversed from past continuities.
* With this episode, [[energon cube]]s make their first appearance in Transformers cartoons since ''Beast Wars''. They look ''exactly'' like they did in the Generation 1 cartoon, which even ''Beast Wars'' didn't pull off.

===Real-world references===
* Bulkhead's "ghost" costume, with its constant cloud of pesticides at the bottom, coincidentally resembles "Pig-Pen's" costume from ''[[wikipedia:It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown|It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown]].''
* Judging how Blackarachnia [[Spider-Man|can swing from a thread]], the Autobots had best take a look overhead.

===Miscellaneous trivia===
* This is the first episode to not feature [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] or [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]].
* In a flashback, prior to Blackarachnia's transformation, a helmet can be seen sitting in a corner of the Decepticon ship. In the present day, she appears to be wearing it, possibly to hide the extent of her transformation.
* This episode makes a point of how Sari has been overusing her key previously, and that it can't be used to cure every TF injury. The writers evidently anticipated that reaction from the audience.
* Referring to himself as "vertically challenged," Bumblebee seems to be over his height complex, which was such a major point in "[[Total Meltdown]]".
* This is the first time Sentinel Prime has been fully on screen. When he appeared in [[Transform and Roll Out]], all that was seen of him was his head.
*This episode explains why Sentinel Prime hates Optimus.
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==Head wars==
Please visit the [[Talk:Megatron (Movie)]] page, read the head wars discussion, and give me your answer. Thank you. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 19:38, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

==Hmmm.==
I don't think you should tell jokes in a computer encyclopedia like here. [[User:Black rhino ranger|Black rhino ranger]] 16:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"> From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</div>

Transform and Roll Out

2008-04-08T16:03:01Z

Black rhino ranger: /* Transformers references */

{{episodenav|animated|1, 2, and 3|season=1|prev=|next=Home Is Where the Spark Is}}

[[Image:TFA_TFandRollout_AutobotHeroes.jpg|thumb|right|350px|''Epic'']]

'''Optimus Prime and his small crew of maintenance Autobots come into possession of the [[AllSpark (Animated)|AllSpark]]. This powerful Cybertronian artifact attracts the attention of the Autobots' long-forgotten enemies, the Decepticons, and sends them all crashing toward a strange, distant planet known as... ''Earth.'''''

'''German Title:''' Trasformieren und Abfahrt

==Detailed synopsis==
===Part 1===

In deep, deep space, [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] watches some old history videos, prompting [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] to complain about him watching that "junk" when the other members of the crew need assistance. Prime wonders if they were designed for more than repairing [[space bridge]]s. The two 'Bots transform into their vehicle modes and head out into the asteroid field.

[[Image:TFA_TFandRollout_TheAllsparkdiscovered.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Well... at least there's no [[mass-shifting]]]]

Outside, [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]], dangling from a high rock by his wrecking ball (and becoming quite queasy in the process), is freed by [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]], who also ends up taking a tumble. Bumblebee complains about the sheer amount of rocks blocking the space bridge node, and one is shattered unexpectedly by [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]]'s throwing star. Prime gives his troops a speech about teamwork (which Prowl moans at theatrically), but at that point the space bridge lights up, sending rocks and Autobots flying. Fancy footwork by Optimus saves each of his teammates from the debris, and a well-aimed grappling line shuts down the bridge. With his subordinates stunned at their leader's skills, Prime is forced to admit he trained at [[Autobot Academy|Cybertron's military academy]]. Bumblebee's query as to what the hell he's doing on a nowhere maintenance assignment is left unanswered as they notice something glowing in the rubble.

Prime clears away the debris to reveal a large, chest-like object. Ratchet is horrified and immediately demands they throw it back into the space bridge, but an alert from [[Teletran 1]] announces the arrival of a signature consistent with the long-lost [[Decepticon]]s. Ratchet then insists they take the object and just get out of there post-haste.

[[Image:TFA_TFandRollout_Decepticonship.jpg|thumb|right|150px|Yes, this ''is'' a scout ship. Way to go, [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Magnanimous.]]]]

On board the ''[[Ark (Animated)|Ark]]'', Ratchet finally reveals what they've found: the [[AllSpark (Animated)|AllSpark]], the source of all Transformer life that was lost centuries ago. Optimus, worried about the oncoming Decepticon signal, contacts the [[Cybertron Elite Guard]] for help. After taking a bit of snark from [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]], Optimus reveals what they found, which shuts Sentinel up fast. Sentinel then puts the crew through to [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]], who tells Optimus Prime to stay put while they send reinforcements... and not to worry about that Decepticon thing. Optimus, considering this to be a really stupid move, orders the crew to start booking it out of there.

[[Image:Ani_crew.JPG|left|thumb|200px|Scotty, engage!]]

This proves wise, as the signal is indeed a Decepticon ship—a [[Nemesis (Animated)|command ship]], in fact. The identification markings are ones that Optimus and Ratchet recognize, meaning its commander can only be one person: [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]], leader of the Decepticons. On board the Decepticon ship, [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]] doubts the AllSpark is aboard the ''Ark'' and declares Megatron a fool. [[Lugnut]] denounces Starscream as a traitor, while [[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]] calls Lugnut an idiot for his blind loyalty and [[Blitzwing (Animated)|Blitzwing]] just acts... well, crazy. The Decepticons continue to bicker at each other until Megatron enters, shutting up all of them. The Decepticons chase the Autobot ship, and Starscream volunteers to board them. Megatron quickly shoots that idea down. Just before he leaves, Starscream wishes his commander "luck" with a pat on the back... affixing a bomb to Megatron in the process.

Megatron makes his way to the ''Ark'' and begins to melt his way through its hull. Optimus uses external manipulator arms to grapple with Megatron, until the bomb detonates, sending the ship careening uncontrollably into a space bridge node, which explodes after they go through the gate. Starscream begins to make a speech declaring himself the new Decepticon leader, but the other three have abandoned ship, noting that the fireball from the space bridge explosion is only getting larger. Too late, Starscream realizes the trouble he's in...

An unknown distance away, the Autobot ship reappears above a [[Earth|small blue and green planet]]. Prime checks on his troops, but Megatron has gotten aboard, having survived the explosion, but at the cost of his right arm. Prime uses his grappling line to shut off the gravity, making it more difficult for Megatron to fight. All five Autobots face off against the Decepticon, but he's too strong (though Prowl does manage to cut off Megatron's damaged arm). Prime and Megatron both end up in the storage bay where the AllSpark is... and as the ship enters the atmosphere, Prime is able to blow the hatch and kick the screaming Megatron out of the ship.

[[Image:TFA_TFandRollout_Arkatmosphere.jpg|thumb|right|150px|[[Beast Wars, Part 1|Oddly familiar.]]]]

On a small farm, a young boy hears a thud and runs to where something has landed in a not-too-distant field. He is shocked to find a robotic head staring lifelessly up at him.

Meanwhile, Prime orders his team into emergency stasis pods to prepare for a crash-landing. He manages to steer the ship away from the city below and gets to a stasis pod just before the ship plunges into [[Lake Erie]].

Fifty years later, Detroit is a city of robots. [[Isaac Sumdac]] is talking to a public school class taking a tour of his facilities, which gets interrupted by Isaac's daughter, [[Sari Sumdac]], and her robot dog, [[Sparkplug (Animated)|Sparkplug]]. As Sari is carted off to her lessons by a [[Tutorbot|robot tutor]], Isaac shows the school kids a nanotech lab, just in time to witness a roach infused with microbots grow out of control and start consuming everything in sight. Isaac tries to keep things calm, but the monster bursts out of the lab...

===Part 2===
[[Image:TFA_TFandRollout_Firefighters_monster.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Yeah, watering it will surely stop the beast.]]

The monster continues to grow, absorbing just about everything it touches to increase its size and power. In the process, it destroys a lot of the factory. [[Captain Fanzone]], the S.W.A.T team, the fire department, ambulances, and robot drones arrive, but the creature absorbs several of the responding vehicles, too. Fanzone uses a bazooka-type weapon and destroys the beast, despite Sumdac's objection. This protest proves well-founded, as the remnants of the creature start flowing back together again, save for one piece that drops into the nearby lake and works its way down to the ''Ark'', its nanites seeking the absorbable technology there. It infiltrates via a small breach in the outer hull, but thankfully, the ship's intruder alert systems are functional and awaken the Autobots before any damage is done. Examining the situation, they decide to have Teletran 1 give them Earth forms so they can blend in and help out. Everyone deploys except Ratchet, who remains behind to analyze the sample of invading material.

[[Image:TFA_TFandRollout_Autobots.jpg|thumb|right|200px|[[Avengers]], ASSEMBLE!]]

During the fight, Bulkhead and Bumblebee spot Sari trying to wrest her security key from Sparkplug's mouth. Mistaking which is owner and which is pet, they approach her, but Bulkhead's greeting only scares her away. She quickly gets nabbed by the monster, but Bumblebee saves her, earning her trust and friendship. Prowl attempts to take on the bug-slug by himself, against Prime's orders, and gets absorbed. Prime orders Ratchet to join them in battle to save Prowl, but the old veteran insists that finding a "cure" code to neutralize the nanites' programming makes more sense than coming out and getting trashed. A somewhat chastened Prime agrees, and Ratchet soon delivers the goods. However, the new program must be uploaded by direct contact{{m-}}meaning from inside the monster. This means the smallest, fastest one of them has to do it. Bumblebee reluctantly takes on the task. The beast has been using some of Prowl's absorbed intelligence and comm link tech, though, so it knows what they're planning and is now smart enough to fight back. Despite this, Bumblebee succeeds in delivering the code, and the bug dissolves into a dusty shower of deactivated nanites. Prowl is soon uncovered, but he's suffered grave wounds and must be taken back to the ''Ark'' for repairs. Sari pesters Bumblebee to be taken along, and her new friend reluctantly agrees, since there's no time to make her go away quietly.

[[Image:TFA_TFandRollout_Sari_followedmehome.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Bumblebee, having a pet is a big responsibility.]]

Once on board, Sari's refusal to stay still and quiet causes 'Bee some embarrassment. He quickly and discreetly ejects her into a ventilation port and joins the others. However, the port opens onto a shaft that takes Sari right to the chamber where the AllSpark is being kept. Curious, she touches it, and it reacts to her, sending its energies into her security card key and reconfiguring it into a key of another sort entirely. Prime finds her almost immediately thereafter, but with no time left to spare away from Prowl, he has to bring her back with him to the repair table. Ratchet's prognosis is bleak, but Sari's AllSpark-charged key abruptly reacts, glowing and tugging her toward Prowl. Bumblebee, seeming to grasp what's happening, helps her onto the table, and as she approaches, her key reshapes itself to fit into a slot on Prowl's chest. She inserts it, and with a burst of energy, the Autobot ninja is whole again. The Autobots then take Sari home and, after a brief misunderstanding, are made heroes and are even invited to a ceremony.

In outer space, Starscream sits aboard the damaged but functional Decepticon ship, babbling that he will find the AllSpark, even though he's been attempting it on his own for the last fifty solar cycles. The ship's computers then detect the traces of AllSpark-like energy in action, and Starscream learns where the Autobots are...

===Part 3===
[[Image:Sariprime.jpg|right|thumb|150px|INSERT WHAT WHERE?!]]

The Autobots are later seen trying to fit in. Bulkhead gets firsthand experience in traffic jams, some birds mistake Prowl for the statue of the [[wikipedia:Hazen S. Pingree|bald guy]] next to him, Bumblebee learns how organics fuel up, and Ratchet can't get a stasis nap without getting a dozen or so parking tickets. Optimus Prime remarks that the Autobots are programmed to respect life, which they always understood to stem from the AllSpark, but as organics are life, they must respect and protect them too. Optimus also expresses curiosity about how little organics are made. Sari's whispered explanation leaves him rather... shocked. The Autobots make a new home base out of a building Sari's dad got out of a merger, an abandoned auto factory that Bumblebee describes as a real fixer-upper{{m-}}a REAL fixer-upper. All of a sudden, they get alerted to a fire. The Autobots proceed to douse the blaze and save its victims, no problem, unaware they are being watched by Starscream.

The next day, during the inauguration ceremony for the Sumdac Fully Automated Rapid Transit System (F.A.R.T.S., for short), Starscream enters Earth's atmosphere and takes on a group of fighter jets. He destroys all but one, which he scans. As the civilians and Autobots watch the aerial display of the Crimson Angels, Isaac Sumdac notices there is an extra jet present that he didn't hire. That one jet then leaves the formation and streaks toward the ceremony platform, where it transforms into Starscream, who fires his null-ray cannons at the Autobots.

After a short fight, which the Autobots lose, Starscream knocks out Bumblebee and takes him, Isaac, the mayor, and Capt. Fanzone hostage in the F.A.R.T.S. train, flying it to the top of a very tall tower. He demands that the Autobots deliver the AllSpark if they want him to release the train car. The Autobots don't trust him, but don't want to risk human lives, so Sari offers a plan, but they ignore her. She continues to tell a sob story until the Autobots listen. The Autobots proceed with her plan, and Prowl and Sari fly up to the transit pod to rescue the hostages while the other Autobots keep Starscream busy. Once Starscream realizes what's happening, he takes a brief beating but recovers quickly. Starscream then throws the train{{m-}}thus keeping his end of the deal{{m-}}with Sari, Prowl, and Bumblebee on top of/in it. Between Bumblebee's agility and Prowl's thrusters, Sari is rescued and the train lands without much damage. The Autobots then challenge Starscream to a friendly game of Keep Away, during which Starscream almost gets the AllSpark, but Bulkhead gets it instead, because he said he got it. A furious Starscream unleashes a devastating, prolonged (as in nearly 12 seconds) null-ray blast on the Autobots, briefly knocking them all senseless.

[[Image:TFA_TFandRollout_Prime_SS_Allsparkactivates.jpg|thumb|left|150px|In the old days, [[Stan Bush|The Touch]] would have started playing now.]]

With the Autobots down, Starscream takes the AllSpark from Optimus and blows a couple of blocks of Detroit right off the map. Not ready to give up, Optimus climbs all the way up a building to get it back from Starscream, which Starscream doesn't see coming because he was too busy gloating. After a quick back-and-forth exchange of possessing it, both grab it at the same time. As they struggle, the AllSpark opens and emits a strange energy wave that blasts Starscream away.

The explosion has left Prime dangling precariously, and he takes a tremendous plummet to the pavement. He notes weakly that he now knows what it feels like to be a hero, then dies, but Sari uses her AllSpark key to revive him.<ref>[[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|This is something of an Optimus Prime record]]: Dead after only three episodes, revived a mere 75 seconds later. Way to go.</ref> The Autobots later go about fixing up Detroit, earning the enduring gratitude of the citizenry. Professor Sumdac is also grateful, for the Autobots saved him and Sari, but he fears what will happen if the Autobots—not to mention the rest of the world{{m-}}were to discover the source of his robotic empire.

Unseen by Sumdac, one of the [[Sensors#Optics|optics]] of his source of technology glows in a darkened room. Megatron still functions...

==Stats==

*'''Written by:''' [[Marty Isenberg]]
*'''Directed by:''' [[Matt Youngberg]], [[Yutaka Kagawa]], [[Minoru Yamaoka]], [[Makoto Fuchigami]]
*'''Original airdate:''' December 26, 2007

===Featured characters===
(''Numbers indicate order of appearance.)''
{|border=5 cellpadding=5 cellspacing=5 align=center style="border:#800000"

! style="background:#FFEEEE" | [[Autobots]]
! style="background:#EEEEFE" | [[Decepticons]]
! style="background:antiquewhite" | [[Human|Humans]]
|-
| style="background:#FFEEEE" valign="top" |
*[[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] (1)
*[[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] (2)
*[[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] (3)
*[[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] (4)
*[[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] (5)
*[[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]] (6)
*[[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]] (7)

| style="background:#EEEEFE" valign="top" |
*[[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]] (12)
*[[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]] (8)
*[[Lugnut]] (9)
*[[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]] (10)
*[[Blitzwing (Animated)|Blitzwing]] (11)

| style="background:antiquewhite" valign="top" |
*[[Isaac Sumdac]] (13)
*[[Daniel (Animated)|Daniel]] (14)
*[[Sari Sumdac]] (15)
*[[Captain Fanzone]] (16)
|}

==Quotes==
"Do you ever get the feeling that you were programmed for more than just repairing space bridges?" 
"I got a diagnostic program that will delete that feeling like a bad line of code."
:—'''Optimus Prime's''' dreams are crushed into a fine powder by '''Ratchet'''.

'''Starscream''': Megatron is a fool who's been chasing a ghost for centuries...I seriously doubt we'll find this "AllSpark" on board such an ''insignificant'' vessel. 
'''Lugnut''': ''Traitor!'' Megatron is wise! Megatron is bold! Megatron will return the Decepticons to Cybertron and... 
'''Blackarachnia''': ... and wipe our homeland clean of the stench of Autobot tyranny, blah-dee blah blah blah! Did you memorize that speech, Lugnut? Or is it just hardwired into that thick, one-track processor of yours? 
''[An ice beam freezes Blackarachnia's forearm]'' 
'''Calm Blitzwing''': As usual, Blackarachnia, your demeanor is as unpleasant as that accursed organic mode of yours. 
'''Blackarachnia''': Blow it out your [[Anatomic euphemism#Actuator|actuator]], three-face. ''[Shatters the ice around forearm]'' 
''[Blitzwing switches to his angry face]'' 
'''Angry Blitzwing''': De name is Blitzving, insect! Remember it! 'Cause it's de last t'ing you're gonna hear before I— 
''[switches to crazy face]'' 
'''Crazy Blitzwing''': —express my feelings in song! De itzy bitzy spider... 
:—Decepticon camaraderie at its finest.

"What do you want now, Starscream?" 
''[Starscream attaches an explosive onto Megatron's back.]'' 
"Only to wish you luck, my liege." 
"I do not believe... in ''luck''". 
''[Megatron transforms and leaves.]'' 
"Neither... do I..." 
:—'''Megatron''' is arrogant, '''Starscream''' is treacherous. [[Megatron (G1)|Some]] [[Starscream (G1)|things]] [[Megatron (Armada)|never]] [[Starscream (Armada)|change]].

"'''Yes!''' ...right then. Solemn face, solemn face."
:—'''Starscream''' watches Megatron explode, then composes himself before going to tell the Decepticons he's their new leader.

'''Bulkhead''': Hi there, little creature. My name's Bulkhead. Did you lose your owner-bot? 
'''Sari''':... AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!! 
'''Bumblebee''': AAAAHHH! That thing must be armed with some sort of high-frequency sonic weapon! 
''[Sari runs off screaming]'' 
'''Bulkhead''': I think it's scared. Don't worry, little creature! I'm not gonna hurt you! 
''[Sari is grabbed by the robot-slug]'' 
'''Bumblebee''': But that thing might!
:—'''Bulkhead''' and '''Bumblebee''' forget about the Prime Directive.

"Hi, I'm Bumblebee!" 
"I'm Sari." 
"Oh, don't be, I like my name."
:—'''Bumblebee''' and '''Sari''' introduce themselves.

"Uh...am I going to be able to ''breathe'' down there?" 
"Oh, sure! What's 'breathe'?"
:—'''Sari''' takes a trip underwater with '''Bumblebee'''.

'''Optimus Prime''' ''[to Sari]'': How did you get aboard this ship? 
'''Bumblebee''': It followed me home... Can I keep it? 
'''Sari''': Hey, I'm not an "it", I'm a "she"! 
'''Optimus''' ''[to Bumblebee]'': So, I suppose you have an explanation? 
'''Bumblebee''': Actually, I'm narrowing it down to my top five. 
:—'''Optimus''' discovers '''Bumblebee'''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s new friend.

"It's okay, they're friendly! Well, except for [[Ratchet (Animated)|the red and white one]], he's kinda grumpy! But other than that..."
:—'''Sari''' plays ambassador.

'''Optimus Prime''': But how is it you're able to make these new, smaller organics? 
'''Sari''': (Whispers) 
'''Optimus''': o_0 
:—'''Optimus''' learns that there are some things that you can't unhear.

"Ratchet, think fast!" 
"Oh crud." 
:{{m-}}'''Optimus Prime''' and '''Ratchet''', as the game of keep-away starts.

{{-}}

==Other notes==
===Animation and/or technical glitches===
* Megatron's vehicle mode was depicted flying upside-down, or backwards, or possibly both. To be fair, in Space, there is no such thing as up or down, thanks to the whole 'no gravity' thing.

* As Starscream tackles Optimus Prime through a building as the Autobot tries to escape with the AllSpark, Optimus' axe is missing from Starscream's left wing. It reappears moments later for Optimus to retrieve it.

===Continuity errors===
* The train Starscream blasts from the tower falls toward the ground very, very slowly.

*In at least one scene, Starscream's Earth-form wing is shown with a spike, in the same manner as his Cybertronian body.

*Sumdac is using Megatron's hand as a chair. However, he seems to be using the right hand, which was blown up by Starscream. (It ''could'' have fallen off the ''Ark'', as it was still clinging to the hull when last seen, but that seems unlikely.)

===Transformers references===
*The title of the episode itself is a [[Roll out|reference to Transformers lore past]].
*Footage from the [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|G1 cartoon]] episodes "[[War Dawn]]" and "[[More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]" is used as history tapes detailing the events of the first Great War, millions of years prior. [[Canon|This]] has been confirmed as pure fanwank, and should not be taken as linking animated to G1, continuity wise.

*Sari's robotic dog [[Sparkplug (Animated)|Sparkplug]] is likely named after either [[Sparkplug Witwicky]] from G1, the Armada Mini-Con [[Sparkplug (Armada)|Sparkplug]], or both.
[[Image:Spikecarlydanielanimated.jpg|right|thumb|150px|Twenty years later, and they're still overdressed.]]
*Characters resembling [[Spike Witwicky|Spike]], [[Carly]], and [[Daniel Witwicky]] are seen at a hot dog stand, purchasing some sort of futuristic bunless wieners-on-a-stick.

*The ''Animated'' Autobots are [[Infiltration|not the first]] to use a starship parked at the bottom of one of the Great Lakes as their headquarters.

*When Optimus Prime dies, his body fades to grays, just as [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Generation 1 Optimus Prime]] did in ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''. His spark chamber opens in much the same manner as well.

*The baby carriage carrying the [[Soviet_Union|baby with the russian hat]] bears some resemblance to [[Wheelie]].

*Teletran 1 (spelled with only one "a" in this universe) dispatches a small satellite very similar to the [[Sky Spy]] satellite used on occasion by the Autobots in the ''Generation 1'' cartoon. The glowing energy "boxes" with which it scans vehicles for the Autobots to transform into are lifted wholesale out of "[[More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]".

*[[Sari Sumdac's key]] bears a strong resemblance to the [[Key to Vector Sigma]].

*When [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] called Optimus "Big Bot", this was one of [[Cheetor]]'s Quotes from [[Beast Wars]]

===Miscellaneous trivia===
* In this episode, [[Tutor Bot]] tries to teach Sari about the [[Wikipedia:Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act|Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act]] (a major economic blunder of the 1930s).
* When Prowl gets birdpooped on, he is standing next to a statue of [[wikipedia:Hazen S. Pingree|Hazen S. Pingree]], four-term mayor of Detroit and one-time governor of Michigan. In real life, the statue is located in Detroit's Grand Circus Park.
* A refurbished Michigan Central Station makes an appearance as the site for the dedication of Detroit's rapid transit system. The real-life station (abandoned since the '80s) was featured in the [[Transformers (2007)|2007 live-action movie]].
* When mocking the Autobots, Starscream actually calls Megatron "the great Megatron" without any sarcasm. Apparently, he'll only give a sincere compliment to his leader when he's insulting something else.
* When Optimus comes back to life, he asks, "Is this the [[Well of All Sparks]]?" and Sari answers, "No, it's Detroit." This is an allusion to the movie ''Field of Dreams'' when Shoeless Joe Jackson (Ray Liotta) asks Ray Kinsella (Kevin Costner) "Is this heaven?" and Ray answers "No, it's Iowa."

== Footnote ==
{{reflist}}

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Sound and Fury (episode)

2008-04-08T15:58:43Z

Black rhino ranger: /* Synopsis */

{{episodenav|animated|10|season=1|prev=Along Came a Spider|next=Lost and Found (Animated episode)}}

[[Image:Soundw anim.JPG|right|300px|thumb|Beginning now: Operation Revolution. Beginning afterwards: Check local listings for episodes of [[Wikipedia:Ed, Edd n Eddy|Ed, Edd 'n' Eddy]].]]
'''Sari's new musical toy robot seems to have an evil streak and the ability to control other machines, but Bulkhead is the only one who sees it.'''
==Synopsis==
[[Image:soundwave_shematics.JPG|left|150px|thumb|Naughty.]]
[[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] takes [[Sari Sumdac|Sari]] toy shopping for her birthday (or "construction date" as he terms it), to purchase her something that makes the loud music she loves so much. The two of them are attacked by [[Professor Princess]], who is on an ironically violent crusade to destroy violent toys. They are able to defeat the bizarre villainess only after Sari uses the power of her Key to trigger a powerful sonic attack from the stereo systems in the toy store. [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]], monitoring events via security cameras as usual, notices both the power of the Key and the frivolous ways in which Sari employs it. He designs a new robot for Sari and tricks [[Isaac Sumdac|Dr. Sumdac]] into allowing him to produce it.

[[Image:animated_soundwave_cassette.JPG|right|150px|thumb|Masterpiece Soundwave sure is big.]]
Sari's birthday party isn't much fun; she has no real friends, the only attendees being the children of Sumdac Systems employees, who continue to be put off by her bad manners. When the [[Autobots]] arrive to help celebrate, the kids are quite happy to go play with the giant robots and leave the weird girl behind. Bulkhead tries to present Sari with his gift for her, a xylophone (''Awwww!''), but Dr. Sumdac steps in first and gives her the "toy" designed by himself and Megatron: a responsive, interactive, dancing, music-and-light-show robot known as [[Soundwave (Animated)|Soundwave]]. It's hard for Bulkhead to compete with that, and so, embarrassed, he slinks away dejectedly. As days go on, Sari pays less attention to Bulkhead and far more to Soundwave. When she inevitably starts to grow bored with her new toy, she uses her Key on it. Each dosage of the Key's power unlocks new features on Soundwave, making his musical light show more involved and impressive, and even ''more'' fun than plain ol' Bulkhead and the Autobots.

This has been Megatron's plan all along. Soundwave's systems were designed to grow and evolve when exposed to the Key; eventually, Sari will unwittingly upgrade him into a suitable body for Megatron himself. Bulkhead begins to see signs of Soundwave's evolving nature—"Did that thing just move by itself?"—but no one believes him. Megatron successfully uses Soundwave's weaponry and voice-modulation systems to make both Sari and the Autobots think Bulkhead is erratic, jealous, and dishonest.

Soundwave's musical transmissions soon become powerful enough to control other Sumdac Systems automatons...which are pretty much everywhere. Megatron had not foreseen this. Sari takes Soundwave and [[Tutor Bot]] to the park, where they have an impromptu concert, complete with garbagebots banging on their fellow garbagebots, and dancing humans. (Even Tutor Bot does a little dance.) Bulkhead arrives, trying to convince Sari that something is wrong with Soundwave. However, as she turns her back to Soundwave, the music-bot activates a cannon and targets Sari. Bulkhead destroys Soundwave, forcing Sari to use the key to restore him, and he immediately starts up again. [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus]] tells Bulkhead to give Sari a little time and space, saying that she still values her friend more than her toy, but Bulkhead isn't so sure. Megatron is convinced that Bulkhead is no longer a problem and decides it's time to take Soundwave for a test run.

[[Image:garbage_bot.JPG|left|150px|thumb|R-E-C-Y-C-L-E! Something trash has got to be!]]
But even Megatron himself is surprised when, after sufficient doses of All Spark energy via the Key, Soundwave grows fully self-aware and enhanced with Cybertronian upgrades. Neither Megatron nor Sari can control Soundwave anymore. As he explores [[Detroit]], he is puzzled and angry to see machines like himself forced into servitude for humans; he finds this illogical and believes it should be the other way around. Megatron reveals himself to Soundwave, rather straightforwardly telling him of the Decepticon goals of conquest and machine supremacy, the injustice of the Key in Sari's possession, and the [[Decepticon|Decepticons']] hatred for the treasonous Autobots who value organic life. Soundwave compels hundreds of smaller [[automaton|automatons]] to merge with him, constructing a new transforming body for himself and proclaiming himself to be a Decepticon. He commences "Operation Recruitment", using his sonic signals to turn all the automatons against both Autobots and Humanity. The Autobots attempt to track down Soundwave, but they are overwhelmed by his minions and flustered by his ability to forge deceptive messages on their own communication systems. Bulkhead manages to come face-to-face with Soundwave, but even the largest Autobot is swatted down by Soundwave's concussive sonic attacks. Soundwave attempts to convince Bulkhead of the rightness of the machine cause and the inferiority of Humanity, and orders him to destroy Sari. Bulkhead plays along for a few moments, but it's all a trick; as soon as he gets within range, he clobbers Soundwave, who shatters into his component automaton pieces.

[[Image:soundwave_ending.JPG|right|150px|thumb|Rise of the iPods.]]
The crisis averted, Bulkhead and Sari strengthen their friendship over some (quiet) music. Megatron fumes in disgust at their victory, swearing again to reconstruct himself. And, far beneath the city, the last intact piece of Soundwave flickers back into activation. Sudgesting that Soundwave will return.
{{-}}

==Stats==

*'''Written by:''' [[Henry Gilroy]]
*'''Directed by:''' [[Ben Jones]], [[Shunji Oga]]
*'''Original airdate:''' February 23, 2008

===Featured characters===
(''Numbers indicate order of appearance.)''
{|border=5 cellpadding=5 cellspacing=5 align=center style="border:#800000"

! style="background:#FFEEEE" | [[Autobot]]s
! style="background:#EEEEFE" | [[Decepticon]]s
! style="background:antiquewhite" | [[Human]]s
! style="background:#FFEEB8" | Others
|-
| style="background:#FFEEEE" valign="top" |
*[[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] (1)
*[[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] (7)
*[[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] (9)
*[[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] (10)
*[[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] (11)

| style="background:#EEEEFE" valign="top" |
*[[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]] (4)
*[[Soundwave (Animated)|Soundwave]] (12)

| style="background:antiquewhite" valign="top" |
*[[Sari Sumdac]] (2)
*[[Professor Princess]] (3)
*[[Isaac Sumdac]] (5)
*[[Gary]] (6)
*[[Daniel (Animated)|Daniel]] (7)

| style="background:#FFEEB8" valign="top" |
*[[Sparkplug (Animated)|Sparkplug]] (8)
*[[Tutor Bot]] (13)
|}

==Quotes==
"Oh, music! Yes, she does love it. The louder, the better, apparently." 
:{{m-}}'''Isaac Sumdac''', showing that Sari has much in common with [[Blaster|some]] [[Jazz (G1)|Autobots]].

"Onward, Powdered Sugar! Let's discontinue this big, naughty, battle toy once and for all!"
:{{m-}}'''Professor Princess''' to her Little Pony

'''Bumblebee''': Here it comes! 
'''Bulkhead''': Swing it! Give it the old Bulkhead treatment, Sari! 
'''Optimus''': Why exactly is she swinging at a colorful animal? 
'''Ratchet''': Smack it! Smack it already! 
'''Bulkhead''': Hold on, Sari, I'll help! I don't even need to use a bat. 
'''Prowl''': This will not end well... 
:{{m-}}The Autobots are introduced to the piñata concept.

'''Kid:''' C'mon! Say, say it! Pleeease? 
'''Optimus Prime:''' Uh, uh, okay. Umm. "Transform and roll out!" 
'''Kids:''' Yeah!
:{{m-}}Optimus learns what [[Peter Cullen]]'s life is like.

"I am Soundwave! I am Decepticon! The revolution begins now!" 
:{{m-}}'''Soundwave''' achieves sentience...and a new body.

"Good afternoon, Sari. Today's lesson is... the ''extinction of all humanity''!" 
:{{m-}}'''Tutor Bot''' turns on Sari. All that abuse has finally caught up.

"We're coming to you live from downtown Detroit, where, from what we can tell, it appears that all the automatons in Detroit have gone amuck... including my camerabot! ''AHHHHHH!''" 
:{{m-}}'''The Anchorman''' reporting on{{m-}}and participating in{{m-}}the robot revolution.

"Machines of Detroit, hear my signal and make it your code. Today begins the liberation of robotkind." 
"I liked you better when you danced for me." 
"Silence, fleshling!" 
:{{m-}}'''Soundwave''' and '''Sari Sumdac''' on his newfound sentience.

"Split up! Bumblebee, you're with me. Prowl, you're with Ratchet. Bulkhead{{m-}}" 
"Yeah, yeah, I'm on my own. As ''usual''." 
:{{m-}}'''Optimus Prime'''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s orders depress '''Bulkhead'''.

"Soundwave's loss was unfortunate, but the key's power will be worth his sacrifice when I get my servos on it...as soon as I ''have'' servos."
:{{m-}}'''Megatron''' reflecting on the defeat of Soundwave.

==Other notes==

===Continuity errors===
*Megatron wanted to use Soundwave as his own body; but in "[[Nanosec (episode)|Nanosec]]", Megatron makes clear that such a body would have to be built from [[destronium]], which he cannot acquire. Then again, Soundwave was very easily damaged by Bulkhead at all stages of his evolution; perhaps Megatron meant to use the permanent repair powers of the Key to make up for sub-par construction materials.

*The Tutorbot said good afternoon to Sari while it was in the evening.

===Animation errors===
*When Megatron watches over Sari and Bulkhead after she has put the key into Soundwave, the key is still present around her neck.
*When Soundwave is shown from behind after Bulkhead's punch connects, his left thumb is colored blue instead of yellow.

===Transformers references===
[[Image:animated_kremzeek.JPG|right|150px|thumb|Please stand by as this annoying electric lifeform causes havoc with our machinery.]]
*The store in the opening scene, Wyatt Toys, is almost certainly named for ranking ''Transformers Animated'' staffer [[Derrick J. Wyatt]].

*[[Kremzeek]] is part of the "Please Stand By" image on a malfunctioning TV station.

*The animation model for the TV station's reporter looks like an older version of Hasbro/Sunbow cartoon newsman [[Hector Ramirez]], right down to the suit he's wearing.

*One of Sari's "friends" is based on [[Daniel Witwicky]]. He was last seen with [[Spike Witwicky|his]] [[Carly Witwicky|parents]] in "[[Transform and Roll Out]]". Since all the "friends" are identified as children of Sumdac employees, one can assume that "Spike" and/or "Carly" work for Isaac Sumdac.

*The piñata at Sari's birthday party is a [[Megatron (BW)|purple theropod dinosaur]], yesssss....

*When arguing against using the key, Bulkhead brings up various disasters it has caused:
**The creation of the [[Dinobot (Animated)|Dinobot]]s and their subsequent rampage in "[[Blast from the Past]]".
**Adding the turbo-boosters to Bumblebee in "[[Nanosec (episode)|Nanosec]]".
**[[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]] draining the life from everything organic in "[[Along Came a Spider]]".

* Soundwave is positively ''oozing'' references to his [[Soundwave (G1)|Generation 1 predecessor]]. He speaks in a similar heavily-processed robotic monotone; at one point, he manifests a cylindrical shoulder cannon; he orders his minions around by directing them to perform an "Operation"; and his eyes switch from yellow (like the original toy) to red (as they appeared in the Generation 1 cartoon).

* The appearances of the present box Soundwave arrives in and the remaining piece of Soundwave are based on the Generation 1 Soundwave's altmode, albeit in a teal and gold color scheme instead of blue and silver.

===Real-world references===
*The episode's title is, of course, taken from a line in William Shakespeare's ''Macbeth'', but it probably signifies nothing.

*Professor Princess's mount, "Powdered Sugar", could have stepped right out of [[Hasbro]]'s popular girls-toy brand ''My Little Pony.'' Its decapitation, meanwhile, seems to be a nod to a famous scene from the movie ''The Godfather.''

*For some reason, Sari has an old rotary phone when she calls Bulkhead.

===Miscellaneous trivia===
* Oh my god, the fanwank.
* Why is it that the Autobots don't wonder why Soundwave starts wearing the Decepticon insignia?
[[Category:Animated episodes]]<div id="wikia-credits"> From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</div>

Sound and Fury (episode)

2008-04-08T15:30:25Z

Black rhino ranger: Upgraded to be a bit messy

{{episodenav|animated|10|season=1|prev=Along Came a Spider|next=Lost and Found (Animated episode)}}

[[Image:Soundw anim.JPG|right|300px|thumb|Soundwave in full mode, This guy is huge, what is he a radio car?]]
'''Sari's new musical toy robot seems to have an evil streak and the ability to control other machines, but Bulkhead is the only one who sees it.'''
==Synopsis==
[[Image:soundwave_shematics.JPG|left|150px|thumb|Naughty.]]
[[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] takes [[Sari Sumdac|Sari]] toy shopping for her birthday (or "construction date" as he terms it), to purchase her something that makes the loud music she loves so much. The two of them are attacked by [[Professor Princess]], who is on an ironically violent crusade to destroy violent toys. They are able to defeat the bizarre villainess only after Sari uses the power of her Key to trigger a powerful sonic attack from the stereo systems in the toy store. [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]], monitoring events via security cameras as usual, notices both the power of the Key and the frivolous ways in which Sari employs it. He designs a new robot for Sari and tricks [[Isaac Sumdac|Dr. Sumdac]] into allowing him to produce it.

[[Image:animated_soundwave_cassette.JPG|right|150px|thumb|Masterpiece Soundwave sure is big.]]
Sari's birthday party isn't much fun; she has no real friends, the only attendees being the children of Sumdac Systems employees, who continue to be put off by her bad manners. When the [[Autobots]] arrive to help celebrate, the kids are quite happy to go play with the giant robots and leave the weird girl behind. Bulkhead tries to present Sari with his gift for her, a xylophone (''Awwww!''), but Dr. Sumdac steps in first and gives her the "toy" designed by himself and Megatron: a responsive, interactive, dancing, music-and-light-show robot known as [[Soundwave (Animated)|Soundwave]]. It's hard for Bulkhead to compete with that, and so, embarrassed, he slinks away dejectedly. As days go on, Sari pays less attention to Bulkhead and far more to Soundwave. When she inevitably starts to grow bored with her new toy, she uses her Key on it. Each dosage of the Key's power unlocks new features on Soundwave, making his musical light show more involved and impressive, and even ''more'' fun than plain ol' Bulkhead and the Autobots.

This has been Megatron's plan all along. Soundwave's systems were designed to grow and evolve when exposed to the Key; eventually, Sari will unwittingly upgrade him into a suitable body for Megatron himself. Bulkhead begins to see signs of Soundwave's evolving nature—"Did that thing just move by itself?"—but no one believes him. Megatron successfully uses Soundwave's weaponry and voice-modulation systems to make both Sari and the Autobots think Bulkhead is erratic, jealous, and dishonest.

Soundwave's musical transmissions soon become powerful enough to control other Sumdac Systems automatons...which are pretty much everywhere. Megatron had not foreseen this. Sari takes Soundwave and [[Tutor Bot]] to the park, where they have an impromptu concert, complete with garbagebots banging on their fellow garbagebots, and dancing humans. (Even Tutor Bot does a little dance.) Bulkhead arrives, trying to convince Sari that something is wrong with Soundwave. However, as she turns her back to Soundwave, the music-bot activates a cannon and targets Sari. Bulkhead destroys Soundwave, forcing Sari to use the key to restore him, and he immediately starts up again. [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus]] tells Bulkhead to give Sari a little time and space, saying that she still values her friend more than her toy, but Bulkhead isn't so sure. Megatron is convinced that Bulkhead is no longer a problem and decides it's time to take Soundwave for a test run.

[[Image:garbage_bot.JPG|left|150px|thumb|R-E-C-Y-C-L-E! Something trash has got to be!]]
But even Megatron himself is surprised when, after sufficient doses of All Spark energy via the Key, Soundwave grows fully self-aware and enhanced with Cybertronian upgrades. Neither Megatron nor Sari can control Soundwave anymore. As he explores [[Detroit]], he is puzzled and angry to see machines like himself forced into servitude for humans; he finds this illogical and believes it should be the other way around. Megatron reveals himself to Soundwave, rather straightforwardly telling him of the Decepticon goals of conquest and machine supremacy, the injustice of the Key in Sari's possession, and the [[Decepticon|Decepticons']] hatred for the treasonous Autobots who value organic life. Soundwave compels hundreds of smaller [[automaton|automatons]] to merge with him, constructing a new transforming body for himself and proclaiming himself to be a Decepticon. He commences "Operation Recruitment", using his sonic signals to turn all the automatons against both Autobots and Humanity. The Autobots attempt to track down Soundwave, but they are overwhelmed by his minions and flustered by his ability to forge deceptive messages on their own communication systems. Bulkhead manages to come face-to-face with Soundwave, but even the largest Autobot is swatted down by Soundwave's concussive sonic attacks. Soundwave attempts to convince Bulkhead of the rightness of the machine cause and the inferiority of Humanity, and orders him to destroy Sari. Bulkhead plays along for a few moments, but it's all a trick; as soon as he gets within range, he clobbers Soundwave, who shatters into his component automaton pieces.

[[Image:soundwave_ending.JPG|right|150px|thumb|Rise of the iPods.]]
The crisis averted, Bulkhead and Sari strengthen their friendship over some (quiet) music. Megatron fumes in disgust at their victory, swearing again to reconstruct himself. And, far beneath the city, the last intact piece of Soundwave flickers back into activation....
{{-}}

==Stats==

*'''Written by:''' [[Henry Gilroy]]
*'''Directed by:''' [[Ben Jones]], [[Shunji Oga]]
*'''Original airdate:''' February 23, 2008

===Featured characters===
(''Numbers indicate order of appearance.)''
{|border=5 cellpadding=5 cellspacing=5 align=center style="border:#800000"

! style="background:#FFEEEE" | [[Autobot]]s
! style="background:#EEEEFE" | [[Decepticon]]s
! style="background:antiquewhite" | [[Human]]s
! style="background:#FFEEB8" | Others
|-
| style="background:#FFEEEE" valign="top" |
*[[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] (1)
*[[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] (7)
*[[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] (9)
*[[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] (10)
*[[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] (11)

| style="background:#EEEEFE" valign="top" |
*[[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]] (4)
*[[Soundwave (Animated)|Soundwave]] (12)

| style="background:antiquewhite" valign="top" |
*[[Sari Sumdac]] (2)
*[[Professor Princess]] (3)
*[[Isaac Sumdac]] (5)
*[[Gary]] (6)
*[[Daniel (Animated)|Daniel]] (7)

| style="background:#FFEEB8" valign="top" |
*[[Sparkplug (Animated)|Sparkplug]] (8)
*[[Tutor Bot]] (13)
|}

==Quotes==
"Oh, music! Yes, she does love it. The louder, the better, apparently." 
:{{m-}}'''Isaac Sumdac''', showing that Sari has much in common with [[Blaster|some]] [[Jazz (G1)|Autobots]].

"Onward, Powdered Sugar! Let's discontinue this big, naughty, battle toy once and for all!"
:{{m-}}'''Professor Princess''' to her Little Pony

'''Bumblebee''': Here it comes! 
'''Bulkhead''': Swing it! Give it the old Bulkhead treatment, Sari! 
'''Optimus''': Why exactly is she swinging at a colorful animal? 
'''Ratchet''': Smack it! Smack it already! 
'''Bulkhead''': Hold on, Sari, I'll help! I don't even need to use a bat. 
'''Prowl''': This will not end well... 
:{{m-}}The Autobots are introduced to the piñata concept.

'''Kid:''' C'mon! Say, say it! Pleeease? 
'''Optimus Prime:''' Uh, uh, okay. Umm. "Transform and roll out!" 
'''Kids:''' Yeah!
:{{m-}}Optimus learns what [[Peter Cullen]]'s life is like.

"I am Soundwave! I am Decepticon! The revolution begins now!" 
:{{m-}}'''Soundwave''' achieves sentience...and a new body.

"Good afternoon, Sari. Today's lesson is... the ''extinction of all humanity''!" 
:{{m-}}'''Tutor Bot''' turns on Sari. All that abuse has finally caught up.

"We're coming to you live from downtown Detroit, where, from what we can tell, it appears that all the automatons in Detroit have gone amuck... including my camerabot! ''AHHHHHH!''" 
:{{m-}}'''The Anchorman''' reporting on{{m-}}and participating in{{m-}}the robot revolution.

"Machines of Detroit, hear my signal and make it your code. Today begins the liberation of robotkind." 
"I liked you better when you danced for me." 
"Silence, fleshling!" 
:{{m-}}'''Soundwave''' and '''Sari Sumdac''' on his newfound sentience.

"Split up! Bumblebee, you're with me. Prowl, you're with Ratchet. Bulkhead{{m-}}" 
"Yeah, yeah, I'm on my own. As ''usual''." 
:{{m-}}'''Optimus Prime'''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s orders depress '''Bulkhead'''.

"Soundwave's loss was unfortunate, but the key's power will be worth his sacrifice when I get my servos on it...as soon as I ''have'' servos."
:{{m-}}'''Megatron''' reflecting on the defeat of Soundwave.

==Other notes==

===Continuity errors===
*Megatron wanted to use Soundwave as his own body; but in "[[Nanosec (episode)|Nanosec]]", Megatron makes clear that such a body would have to be built from [[destronium]], which he cannot acquire. Then again, Soundwave was very easily damaged by Bulkhead at all stages of his evolution; perhaps Megatron meant to use the permanent repair powers of the Key to make up for sub-par construction materials.

*The Tutorbot said good afternoon to Sari while it was in the evening.

===Animation errors===
*When Megatron watches over Sari and Bulkhead after she has put the key into Soundwave, the key is still present around her neck.
*When Soundwave is shown from behind after Bulkhead's punch connects, his left thumb is colored blue instead of yellow.

===Transformers references===
[[Image:animated_kremzeek.JPG|right|150px|thumb|Please stand by as this annoying electric lifeform causes havoc with our machinery.]]
*The store in the opening scene, Wyatt Toys, is almost certainly named for ranking ''Transformers Animated'' staffer [[Derrick J. Wyatt]].

*[[Kremzeek]] is part of the "Please Stand By" image on a malfunctioning TV station.

*The animation model for the TV station's reporter looks like an older version of Hasbro/Sunbow cartoon newsman [[Hector Ramirez]], right down to the suit he's wearing.

*One of Sari's "friends" is based on [[Daniel Witwicky]]. He was last seen with [[Spike Witwicky|his]] [[Carly Witwicky|parents]] in "[[Transform and Roll Out]]". Since all the "friends" are identified as children of Sumdac employees, one can assume that "Spike" and/or "Carly" work for Isaac Sumdac.

*The piñata at Sari's birthday party is a [[Megatron (BW)|purple theropod dinosaur]], yesssss....

*When arguing against using the key, Bulkhead brings up various disasters it has caused:
**The creation of the [[Dinobot (Animated)|Dinobot]]s and their subsequent rampage in "[[Blast from the Past]]".
**Adding the turbo-boosters to Bumblebee in "[[Nanosec (episode)|Nanosec]]".
**[[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]] draining the life from everything organic in "[[Along Came a Spider]]".

* Soundwave is positively ''oozing'' references to his [[Soundwave (G1)|Generation 1 predecessor]]. He speaks in a similar heavily-processed robotic monotone; at one point, he manifests a cylindrical shoulder cannon; he orders his minions around by directing them to perform an "Operation"; and his eyes switch from yellow (like the original toy) to red (as they appeared in the Generation 1 cartoon).

* The appearances of the present box Soundwave arrives in and the remaining piece of Soundwave are based on the Generation 1 Soundwave's altmode, albeit in a teal and gold color scheme instead of blue and silver.

===Real-world references===
*The episode's title is, of course, taken from a line in William Shakespeare's ''Macbeth'', but it probably signifies nothing.

*Professor Princess's mount, "Powdered Sugar", could have stepped right out of [[Hasbro]]'s popular girls-toy brand ''My Little Pony.'' Its decapitation, meanwhile, seems to be a nod to a famous scene from the movie ''The Godfather.''

*For some reason, Sari has an old rotary phone when she calls Bulkhead.

===Miscellaneous trivia===
* Oh my god, the fanwank.
* Why is it that the Autobots don't wonder why Soundwave starts wearing the Decepticon insignia?
[[Category:Animated episodes]]<div id="wikia-credits"> From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</div>

Sound and Fury (episode)

2008-04-08T15:29:02Z

Black rhino ranger: Leave at least one thing that isn't you speaking

{{episodenav|animated|10|season=1|prev=Along Came a Spider|next=Lost and Found (Animated episode)}}

[[Image:Soundw anim.JPG|right|300px|thumb|Soundwave in full mode.]]
'''Sari's new musical toy robot seems to have an evil streak and the ability to control other machines, but Bulkhead is the only one who sees it.'''
==Synopsis==
[[Image:soundwave_shematics.JPG|left|150px|thumb|Naughty.]]
[[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] takes [[Sari Sumdac|Sari]] toy shopping for her birthday (or "construction date" as he terms it), to purchase her something that makes the loud music she loves so much. The two of them are attacked by [[Professor Princess]], who is on an ironically violent crusade to destroy violent toys. They are able to defeat the bizarre villainess only after Sari uses the power of her Key to trigger a powerful sonic attack from the stereo systems in the toy store. [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]], monitoring events via security cameras as usual, notices both the power of the Key and the frivolous ways in which Sari employs it. He designs a new robot for Sari and tricks [[Isaac Sumdac|Dr. Sumdac]] into allowing him to produce it.

[[Image:animated_soundwave_cassette.JPG|right|150px|thumb|Masterpiece Soundwave sure is big.]]
Sari's birthday party isn't much fun; she has no real friends, the only attendees being the children of Sumdac Systems employees, who continue to be put off by her bad manners. When the [[Autobots]] arrive to help celebrate, the kids are quite happy to go play with the giant robots and leave the weird girl behind. Bulkhead tries to present Sari with his gift for her, a xylophone (''Awwww!''), but Dr. Sumdac steps in first and gives her the "toy" designed by himself and Megatron: a responsive, interactive, dancing, music-and-light-show robot known as [[Soundwave (Animated)|Soundwave]]. It's hard for Bulkhead to compete with that, and so, embarrassed, he slinks away dejectedly. As days go on, Sari pays less attention to Bulkhead and far more to Soundwave. When she inevitably starts to grow bored with her new toy, she uses her Key on it. Each dosage of the Key's power unlocks new features on Soundwave, making his musical light show more involved and impressive, and even ''more'' fun than plain ol' Bulkhead and the Autobots.

This has been Megatron's plan all along. Soundwave's systems were designed to grow and evolve when exposed to the Key; eventually, Sari will unwittingly upgrade him into a suitable body for Megatron himself. Bulkhead begins to see signs of Soundwave's evolving nature—"Did that thing just move by itself?"—but no one believes him. Megatron successfully uses Soundwave's weaponry and voice-modulation systems to make both Sari and the Autobots think Bulkhead is erratic, jealous, and dishonest.

Soundwave's musical transmissions soon become powerful enough to control other Sumdac Systems automatons...which are pretty much everywhere. Megatron had not foreseen this. Sari takes Soundwave and [[Tutor Bot]] to the park, where they have an impromptu concert, complete with garbagebots banging on their fellow garbagebots, and dancing humans. (Even Tutor Bot does a little dance.) Bulkhead arrives, trying to convince Sari that something is wrong with Soundwave. However, as she turns her back to Soundwave, the music-bot activates a cannon and targets Sari. Bulkhead destroys Soundwave, forcing Sari to use the key to restore him, and he immediately starts up again. [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus]] tells Bulkhead to give Sari a little time and space, saying that she still values her friend more than her toy, but Bulkhead isn't so sure. Megatron is convinced that Bulkhead is no longer a problem and decides it's time to take Soundwave for a test run.

[[Image:garbage_bot.JPG|left|150px|thumb|R-E-C-Y-C-L-E! Something trash has got to be!]]
But even Megatron himself is surprised when, after sufficient doses of All Spark energy via the Key, Soundwave grows fully self-aware and enhanced with Cybertronian upgrades. Neither Megatron nor Sari can control Soundwave anymore. As he explores [[Detroit]], he is puzzled and angry to see machines like himself forced into servitude for humans; he finds this illogical and believes it should be the other way around. Megatron reveals himself to Soundwave, rather straightforwardly telling him of the Decepticon goals of conquest and machine supremacy, the injustice of the Key in Sari's possession, and the [[Decepticon|Decepticons']] hatred for the treasonous Autobots who value organic life. Soundwave compels hundreds of smaller [[automaton|automatons]] to merge with him, constructing a new transforming body for himself and proclaiming himself to be a Decepticon. He commences "Operation Recruitment", using his sonic signals to turn all the automatons against both Autobots and Humanity. The Autobots attempt to track down Soundwave, but they are overwhelmed by his minions and flustered by his ability to forge deceptive messages on their own communication systems. Bulkhead manages to come face-to-face with Soundwave, but even the largest Autobot is swatted down by Soundwave's concussive sonic attacks. Soundwave attempts to convince Bulkhead of the rightness of the machine cause and the inferiority of Humanity, and orders him to destroy Sari. Bulkhead plays along for a few moments, but it's all a trick; as soon as he gets within range, he clobbers Soundwave, who shatters into his component automaton pieces.

[[Image:soundwave_ending.JPG|right|150px|thumb|Rise of the iPods.]]
The crisis averted, Bulkhead and Sari strengthen their friendship over some (quiet) music. Megatron fumes in disgust at their victory, swearing again to reconstruct himself. And, far beneath the city, the last intact piece of Soundwave flickers back into activation....
{{-}}

==Stats==

*'''Written by:''' [[Henry Gilroy]]
*'''Directed by:''' [[Ben Jones]], [[Shunji Oga]]
*'''Original airdate:''' February 23, 2008

===Featured characters===
(''Numbers indicate order of appearance.)''
{|border=5 cellpadding=5 cellspacing=5 align=center style="border:#800000"

! style="background:#FFEEEE" | [[Autobot]]s
! style="background:#EEEEFE" | [[Decepticon]]s
! style="background:antiquewhite" | [[Human]]s
! style="background:#FFEEB8" | Others
|-
| style="background:#FFEEEE" valign="top" |
*[[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] (1)
*[[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] (7)
*[[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] (9)
*[[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] (10)
*[[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] (11)

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*[[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]] (4)
*[[Soundwave (Animated)|Soundwave]] (12)

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*[[Sari Sumdac]] (2)
*[[Professor Princess]] (3)
*[[Isaac Sumdac]] (5)
*[[Gary]] (6)
*[[Daniel (Animated)|Daniel]] (7)

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*[[Sparkplug (Animated)|Sparkplug]] (8)
*[[Tutor Bot]] (13)
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==Quotes==
"Oh, music! Yes, she does love it. The louder, the better, apparently." 
:{{m-}}'''Isaac Sumdac''', showing that Sari has much in common with [[Blaster|some]] [[Jazz (G1)|Autobots]].

"Onward, Powdered Sugar! Let's discontinue this big, naughty, battle toy once and for all!"
:{{m-}}'''Professor Princess''' to her Little Pony

'''Bumblebee''': Here it comes! 
'''Bulkhead''': Swing it! Give it the old Bulkhead treatment, Sari! 
'''Optimus''': Why exactly is she swinging at a colorful animal? 
'''Ratchet''': Smack it! Smack it already! 
'''Bulkhead''': Hold on, Sari, I'll help! I don't even need to use a bat. 
'''Prowl''': This will not end well... 
:{{m-}}The Autobots are introduced to the piñata concept.

'''Kid:''' C'mon! Say, say it! Pleeease? 
'''Optimus Prime:''' Uh, uh, okay. Umm. "Transform and roll out!" 
'''Kids:''' Yeah!
:{{m-}}Optimus learns what [[Peter Cullen]]'s life is like.

"I am Soundwave! I am Decepticon! The revolution begins now!" 
:{{m-}}'''Soundwave''' achieves sentience...and a new body.

"Good afternoon, Sari. Today's lesson is... the ''extinction of all humanity''!" 
:{{m-}}'''Tutor Bot''' turns on Sari. All that abuse has finally caught up.

"We're coming to you live from downtown Detroit, where, from what we can tell, it appears that all the automatons in Detroit have gone amuck... including my camerabot! ''AHHHHHH!''" 
:{{m-}}'''The Anchorman''' reporting on{{m-}}and participating in{{m-}}the robot revolution.

"Machines of Detroit, hear my signal and make it your code. Today begins the liberation of robotkind." 
"I liked you better when you danced for me." 
"Silence, fleshling!" 
:{{m-}}'''Soundwave''' and '''Sari Sumdac''' on his newfound sentience.

"Split up! Bumblebee, you're with me. Prowl, you're with Ratchet. Bulkhead{{m-}}" 
"Yeah, yeah, I'm on my own. As ''usual''." 
:{{m-}}'''Optimus Prime'''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s orders depress '''Bulkhead'''.

"Soundwave's loss was unfortunate, but the key's power will be worth his sacrifice when I get my servos on it...as soon as I ''have'' servos."
:{{m-}}'''Megatron''' reflecting on the defeat of Soundwave.

==Other notes==

===Continuity errors===
*Megatron wanted to use Soundwave as his own body; but in "[[Nanosec (episode)|Nanosec]]", Megatron makes clear that such a body would have to be built from [[destronium]], which he cannot acquire. Then again, Soundwave was very easily damaged by Bulkhead at all stages of his evolution; perhaps Megatron meant to use the permanent repair powers of the Key to make up for sub-par construction materials.

*The Tutorbot said good afternoon to Sari while it was in the evening.

===Animation errors===
*When Megatron watches over Sari and Bulkhead after she has put the key into Soundwave, the key is still present around her neck.
*When Soundwave is shown from behind after Bulkhead's punch connects, his left thumb is colored blue instead of yellow.

===Transformers references===
[[Image:animated_kremzeek.JPG|right|150px|thumb|Please stand by as this annoying electric lifeform causes havoc with our machinery.]]
*The store in the opening scene, Wyatt Toys, is almost certainly named for ranking ''Transformers Animated'' staffer [[Derrick J. Wyatt]].

*[[Kremzeek]] is part of the "Please Stand By" image on a malfunctioning TV station.

*The animation model for the TV station's reporter looks like an older version of Hasbro/Sunbow cartoon newsman [[Hector Ramirez]], right down to the suit he's wearing.

*One of Sari's "friends" is based on [[Daniel Witwicky]]. He was last seen with [[Spike Witwicky|his]] [[Carly Witwicky|parents]] in "[[Transform and Roll Out]]". Since all the "friends" are identified as children of Sumdac employees, one can assume that "Spike" and/or "Carly" work for Isaac Sumdac.

*The piñata at Sari's birthday party is a [[Megatron (BW)|purple theropod dinosaur]], yesssss....

*When arguing against using the key, Bulkhead brings up various disasters it has caused:
**The creation of the [[Dinobot (Animated)|Dinobot]]s and their subsequent rampage in "[[Blast from the Past]]".
**Adding the turbo-boosters to Bumblebee in "[[Nanosec (episode)|Nanosec]]".
**[[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]] draining the life from everything organic in "[[Along Came a Spider]]".

* Soundwave is positively ''oozing'' references to his [[Soundwave (G1)|Generation 1 predecessor]]. He speaks in a similar heavily-processed robotic monotone; at one point, he manifests a cylindrical shoulder cannon; he orders his minions around by directing them to perform an "Operation"; and his eyes switch from yellow (like the original toy) to red (as they appeared in the Generation 1 cartoon).

* The appearances of the present box Soundwave arrives in and the remaining piece of Soundwave are based on the Generation 1 Soundwave's altmode, albeit in a teal and gold color scheme instead of blue and silver.

===Real-world references===
*The episode's title is, of course, taken from a line in William Shakespeare's ''Macbeth'', but it probably signifies nothing.

*Professor Princess's mount, "Powdered Sugar", could have stepped right out of [[Hasbro]]'s popular girls-toy brand ''My Little Pony.'' Its decapitation, meanwhile, seems to be a nod to a famous scene from the movie ''The Godfather.''

*For some reason, Sari has an old rotary phone when she calls Bulkhead.

===Miscellaneous trivia===
* Oh my god, the fanwank.
* Why is it that the Autobots don't wonder why Soundwave starts wearing the Decepticon insignia?
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User talk:Black rhino ranger

2008-04-07T12:51:09Z

Black rhino ranger:

No fanart, please. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:44, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about that. [[User:Black rhino ranger|Black rhino ranger]] 12:51, 7 April 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"> From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</div>

Arcee (G1)

2008-04-07T12:33:28Z

Black rhino ranger:

{{picsneeded|G1 animated appearances, ferchrissakes. There's more comic appearances than where she ORIGINATED.}}

{{disambig3|Arcee}}

:''Arcee is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:ArceeManga1.jpg|right|250px|thumb| Hel-LO nursebot.]]
[[Image:Arcee and a cat.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Arcee and a cat]]
'''Arcee''' is a [[Female Transformers|female Transformer]], usually found in the same general area as her friends and fellow Autobots [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] and [[Springer (G1)|Springer]], both of whom she cares for deeply. The level-headed and logical one of the three, it is usually Arcee who needs to rein in the other two when their egos or attitudes are getting out of control. In addition to being a fierce warrior and talented gunner, she also just might be one of [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap's]] relatives<ref>In the episode "[[Transmutate (Beast Wars episode)|Transmutate]]", Rattrap says, "What in the name of my great aunt Arcee is going on?".</ref>.

:''Hungarian name:'' '''Arszi'''
:''Italian name:'' '''Saturnia''' (''Headmasters'' dub only)

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 animated continuity===
:''Voice actress:'' [[Susan Blu]] (English), [[Masako Katsuki]] → [[Yōko Kawanami]] (Japanese), [[Carmen Sheila]] (Portuguese)

Although there are many other female Autobots, Arcee appears to be the only one to hold any sort of rank or position amongst the forces found in Autobot City. She seems to share the same basic design as the medical bots on the planet of [[Paradron (planet)|Paradron]]. During the assault on Autobot City she was instrumental in helping [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] transform Autobot City to repel the [[Decepticon]] invaders, buying precious time for reinforcements and likely saving many lives. She was among the few Autobots to survive [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron's]] savage blitz on the city, and was nearly left behind when [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] forced the Autobots to evacuate.

[[Image:HeadmasterDanielRebirth1.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Does Daniel really need two moms?]]

Arcee survived the attack, and the crash landing on the planet [[Junk|Junk]], all the while going to great lengths in order to protect and care for young [[Daniel Witwicky]], a human friend of [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod's]] who had wound up on the shuttle with her. Throughout the entire battle with [[Unicron]], Daniel's safety was Arcee's top priority. The almost maternal connection between Daniel and Arcee was a powerful one, which was only strengthened some time later when they became binary bonded as [[Headmaster]] partners during an adventure on the planet [[Nebulos]].

====''The Headmasters''====

{{note|The Headmasters anime ignores the events from the 3-part "The Rebirth" story arc.}}

In 2011, Arcee either lost her taste for combat or was slapped into her place by the male Autobots, so she acted as [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]]'s secretary, filing reports, working computers, and monitoring events. At one point, she wanted to go with [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]], [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] and [[Kup]] to search for a new homeworld after Cybertron blew up, but Rodimus told her to stay because she's a girl, and girls can't do anything but stand around, worry, and make coffee for the men. During a party shortly afterward, she slow-danced with [[Chromedome]], and the pair had ''something'' resembling a mutual attraction. (At one point, Chromedome becomes aroused at seeing her transformation from a car.)

===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Marvel UK future timelines====
[[Image:Arceeprimesrib.jpg|left|thumb|200px|They're ''not'' men, Arcee. Transformers have no gender. We've been over this!]]

Arcee was constructed by the Autobots in an alternate future 1995 as a good-will attempt to placate angry humans who thought that they were "sexist" for having no women in their group. After trying multiple times to explain that Autobots, being robots, had no gender, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] surrendered and ordered [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] and [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] to make a new Autobot who would meet the humans' demands for sexual equality. However, when Arcee was unveiled at a public ceremony, her pink, skinny, pink, curvacious, and pink form enraged the very audience Prime intended to placate. [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]], [[Horri-Bull]], [[Fangry]] and [[Squeezeplay]] who immediately attacked, looking to crush the "secret weapon" that was promised. Prime warned Arcee to stay back, lest she get hurt in battle, but the female Autobot, rightfully annoyed at the Autobots' lack of faith in her equal ability, singlehandedly forced the Decepticons into a retreat. [[Hot Rod]] thought that was pretty hot. The feminists were enraged beyond words. {{storylink|Prime's Rib!}}

Arcee and Hot Rod became quite friendly, but with his ascension to Prime status in 2006, they began to drift apart. She was stationed at [[Autobot City]] on Earth and got bored by her duties. The [[Quintessons]] attacked in 2008, stringing out the city's population to the wall and using a wounded Arcee as bait to attract Rodimus; when he tried to use the Matrix to heal her, they stole it and he reverted to Hot Rod. Despite her injuries, she assisted him in awakening [[Metroplex]] and devastating the Quintesson fleet. {{storylink|Space Pirates!}}

[[Image:ArceeTFMMarvel.jpg|right|thumb|150px| Insert totally inappropriate comment here.]]

In 2009, Arcee tracked down [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] and the [[Terrorcon (G1)|Terrorcon]]s on Earth, where they were planning to use a laser bore to leech energy right from the planet's core. Joining a small Autobot detachment, they destroyed the drill and returned to Autobot City to face the greater threat: a timestorm that threatened 20 years of history with destruction. As Galvatron had spent months back in the 20th century, the universe was unraveling from the anamoly. Arcee, Rodimus and several other Autobots traveled back in time to 1989 in order to retrieve the Decepticon villain. Unfortunately, Galvatron had acquired some allies in the past: Scourge, [[Ravage]], and the mighty [[Straxus|Megatron]]. She joined Kup and Ultra Magnus in trying to triple-team Megatron, but was only swatted aside like a bothersome insect. Arcee survived, however, and managed to take a few cheap shots at Galvatron later on in the fight. Eventually, the timestorm asserted itself on the battle, and consumed Galvatron utterly, ending the temporal distortion. {{storylink|Time Wars}}

Arcee and the Autobots returned to their time only to find it had reset so Galvatron never time-jumped and had instead conquered Cybertron. Their resistance movement was quickly crushed, and the Autobots were forced to leave their homeworld. {{storylink|Aspects of Evil!}} Arcee joined a hundreds-strong Autobot team in fleeing to Earth to regroup. When the Matrix-imprisoned [[Unicron]] possessed Rodimus, Arcee showed a more ruthless side in being the only one of the Autobots to advocate using lethal force on him. {{storylink|The Void! (UK)|The Void}} - {{storylink|White Fire}} As Unicron would go on to possess Rodimus again and devastate Cybertron in 2010 - an event she witnessed - her ruthless attitude appears to have been the right one all along. Yes, Rodimus Prime managed to contain Unicron again, but at what price..? {{storylink|Aspects of Evil!}}

{{note|Her only appearances in the Marvel U.S. comics were in their [[Transformers: The Movie (Marvel Comics)]] adaption ("[[The Planet Eater!]]", "[[Judgment Day]]", and "[[The Final Battle!]]"), and a profile in issue 4 of their [[Transformers Universe (Marvel comic)]]. All stuff out-of-continuity with the US storyline.}}

===Dreamwave comics continuity===
Arcee can be seen as a member of Hot Rod's underground rebellion team on Cybertron, battling the forces of [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. Both Hot Rod and Springer appeared to be in love with her, though she seemed rather uninterested in both of them. In reality, Arcee was a sleeper agent for the [[Quintesson]]s.

{{note|Due to [[Dreamwave]]'s bankruptcy, this story was never concluded. Thank [[Primus|god]].}}

===IDW comics continuity===
{{ongoing}}
[[Image:Spotlight arcee.jpg|thumb|left|150px|The writers of the [[Headmasters (cartoon)|Headmasters cartoon]] now fear for their lives...]]
Arcee was an early test subject of the mad genius [[Jhiaxus]], after he decided to introduce gender into the Transformers just to see the results. Her fundamental [[CNA]] was altered, giving her a "maddening maelstrom of contradictory sensory input" and causing all other Transformers to sense a fundamental difference about her and inadvertently use feminine pronouns around her, something that she loathes. (It also gave her fangs and permanent lipstick for some unknown reason.)

She didn't meet Jhiaxus' standards and was dumped. Dangerously unstable and driven by an implacable homing instinct towards her creator's experiments, Arcee cut a mech-fluid swath of carnage across several planets in her obsession with destroying everything Jhiaxus created. She was eventually taken down by [[Tyrest Accord]] enforcer [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] and incarcerated on the Autobot penitentiary on [[Garrus-9]].

Her [[spark]] was kept separate from her body within the penitentiary, as were those of all prisoners. In this limbo, she found a kind of peace. Unfortunately, when the Decepticons attacked to seize the new inmate [[Monstructor]] (another Jhiaxus experiment), warden [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] freed her as a last resort to stop the attack. She was able to carve her way through the invaders, but not before they left with their target. She headed off to intercept them, with [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] convincing Maximus to allow this. {{storylink|Spotlight: Arcee}}

Arcee apparently knows of the [[Dead Universe|Expansion]] and Jhiaxus's part in it, and refers to herself as the "servo-wrench in the works".

{{note|Furman has stated in an interview that her point of origin is linked with the combiners and [[Micromasters]], and all three are attempts to force Transformer evolution. [http://simonfurman.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/another-quick-qa/] }}

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===3H ''Universe: The Wreckers'' comics===
[[Image:Wrecker Arcee.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Gothy 'cuz all her toys get canceled.]]

During a battle against a horde of killer [[Nightbird]]s, Daniel and Wheelie sacrificed their lives to end the threat. The death of Daniel took a serious toll on Arcee's personality, turning her into a depressed and brooding stereotype. A ''pink'' one. She can foresee other characters' imminent deaths, except when she can't.

After Megatron's takeover of Cybertron, [[Primal Prime]] and Rodimus met up with Arcee within some Cybertronian caverns. Still upset over the death of Daniel, Arcee initially refused to join the Wreckers when asked by Rodimus and Primal Prime. [[Fractyl]] was soon ambushed by [[Quake]] and [[Blastcharge]], nearly killing him. Refusing to lose another, Arcee used her spark to save Fractyl, also reformatting him into a Transmetal body. Arcee departed with the rest of the Wreckers. {{storylink|Departure}}

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===Devil's Due ''G.I. Joe vs Transformers'' comics continuity===
She had a mutual attraction to [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] and was devastated when [[Serpent O.R.]] killed him.

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==Toys==
===Generation 1===
: Despite her being a major character in [[The Transformers: The Movie|the movie]], no actual transforming toy of Arcee in her original cartoon model was ever made. (Maybe it's because she's a pink girl -- nah, couldn't be.) Images of a hand-sculpted prototype have appeared in several Takara publications, but it appears the toy never progressed beyond that stage.

[[Image:Concept-HeadmasterArcee.jpg|left|thumb|Pinkdome.]]

: The Japanese ''[[Transformers Generations]]'' book shows a piece of concept artwork of the Headmaster [[Chromedome]] car in pink and white labeled "Arcee", a proposal for a redeco of the toy as Headmaster Arcee from "[[Generation 1 (cartoon)#Season 4|The Rebirth]]". (Presumably, then, this was a Hasbro-initiated idea.) The idea does not appear to have gone any farther.
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===Beast Machines===
*'''Arcee''' (Mega, 2001)

: The very first true transforming Arcee toy (and currently the ''only'' official one of the Generation 1 character) is a [[redeco]] and minor [[retool]]ing of the ''[[Beast Wars]]'' [[Transmetal 2]] [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]], transforming into a malformed mish-mash of machine and organic parts in the form of a large spider. The spider-mode fangs become a grappling weapon for her robot mode which extend on a retractable string. The robot mode also features a spring-powered waist-swivel for "power kick" action. Arcee lacks the [[Blackarachnia]] toy's additional chest armor, and the oddly-placed holes in her... well, chest, that keep the armor in place.

: Arcee was available only as an [[exclusive]] to [[BotCon 2001]], and along with [[Tigatron (BW)|Tigatron]] were the first time since the inception of [[3H]] that they were allowed to use pre-existing characters for convention exclusives. Arcee is also the first convention toy to feature retooling. Preorders received their Arcees with a bonus; the box contained a light-sensitive sound chip featuring voice actress [[Susan Blu]]'s voice saying "Don't underestimate me, I'm more than just a pretty face. Arcee, MAXIMIZE!". These chips are VERY light-sensitive. Many won't shut up to this day.

{{note|Arcee's packaging does not explicitly place her in the Beast Machines toyline; however, her box uses the ''Beast-Machines''-era "Transformers" logo, and the character is placed on ''Beast-Machines''-era Cybertron; by contrast, 2001's other BotCon exclusive, Tigatron, used a box with the ''Beast Wars'' name and Transformers logo.}}

===Titanium===
: A 6" transforming Arcee toy was designed and displayed at [[BotCon]] 2007, but its release has been canceled.

===Binatech===
*''Japanese ID number:'' '''BT-21'''
*''Accessories:''
Arcee is a [[retool]] of Alternator [[Decepticharge]] with her traditional color scheme.
{{comingsoontoy}}

==Merchandise==
===MyClone===
* '''Arcee'''

===Super Collection Figure===
* '''Arcee'''

===Robot Heroes===
* '''Arcee vs. Rumble''' (2008)
{{comingsoontoy}}

===Unreleased===
* Super Hybrid Model (unreleased)

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==Trivia==
[[Image:HotrodArceeMovie.jpg|right|200px|thumb|A G-G-Girl!]]

*When asked about Arcee's design in an interview, [[Floro Dery]]'s reply was, "Arcee is the naked mechanical equivalent of Princess Leia of ''Star Wars''."<ref>[http://transformersph.blogspot.com/2007/06/interview-with-floro-dery.html TransFormers Philippines: Interview With Floro Dery]</ref> Well, that answers that question... while raising a whole bunch of others.

*Arcee has the most romantic attachments of any Transformers character: Hot Rod in the movie, Marvel Comics and Dreamwave continuity, Springer after the movie, Chromedome in ''The Headmasters'', and Bumblebee in [[Devil's Due]] continuity. And then there is the weird affection shown toward Daniel in [[The Rebirth, Part 3]], but most fans won't read too much into it, for their own sanity. Damn but she got around.

* Arcee's character model was used to make the [[Paradron Medic]], only without the shoulder-thingies.

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==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/2001/Autobot/Arcee/arcee.htm Arcee at TFU.info]

*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Arcee Arcee's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

==Footnotes==
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[[Category: Autobots]]
[[Category: Beast Machines characters]]
[[Category: Convention exclusives]]
[[Category: Female Transformers]]
[[Category: Headmasters]]
[[Category: Headmasters characters]]
[[Category: Maximals]]
[[Category: MyClone]]
[[Category: Robot Heroes]]
[[Category: Universe characters]]
[[Category: Universe (2008)]]
[[Category: Unreleased toys]]
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