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[[File:MP Magnus book cover art.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.2|He can't deal with the obligatory joke now!]]
Sometimes [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] looks a lot like [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. There are a lot of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime toys]], and they need to be [[redeco]]ed into SOMETHING. Ergo...

==Toys==
===''The Transformers''===
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*'''Ultra Magnus''' (1986, 1987)
**''Takara ID number:'' '''C-69'''
**''Accessories:'' Large robot head, rifle, chest plate, 2 trailer connectors/waist plates, 2 small robot fists (left & right), 2 large robot fists (left & right), 2 missile launchers, 4 missiles

: ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|The Transformers]]'' Ultra Magnus is a [[redeco]] of the ''[[Diaclone]]'' "Powered Convoy" figure, itself a redeco and slight retool of "Battle Convoy", the toy that became the original [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] figure, sporting a new trailer. One of the last few ''Diaclone'' toys to be released in the ''Transformers'' toyline, Magnus was recolored from the original toy's dark blue, red and black color scheme into a more patriotic red, white and blue. His chestplate, which was rendered white in his package art, was molded in the same blue as his shoulders. He transforms into a White Freightliner WFT-8664T cabover semi-trailer truck, towing a car-carrier trailer capable of transporting up to four normal-sized Autobot cars. As with Optimus Prime, his cab transforms into a small robot, which can then combine with the trailer to form a "super robot", although all original Generation 1 fiction prior to the 21st century ignored this and simply rendered the super robot as Magnus's default robot form. To facilitate this combination, Magnus sports a slightly longer front axle than Prime, thereby creating tabs on either side of the cab that slide into grooves in the trailer to help lock the small robot into place. He is armed with a rifle sporting two handles that allow either of his [[robot mode]]s to hold it, and two shoulder-mounted missile launchers, whose spring-loaded firing mechanism was removed for the Hasbro release of the figure.

:Despite having extensive arm articulation on the same level as his inner Prime mold, Magnus's completed robot mode's arms are somewhat hindered by protrusions along the sides of his body. While this does not particularly impede his arms from moving, positioning them at certain levels will cause said protrusions to force them outwards. The helmet also features empty eye-sockets, which show nothing but his inner Prime's upper brow behind them as opposed to actual eyes.

:The ''Diaclone'' Powered Convoy figure had several additional features and modes which were mostly excised or left unmentioned for the ''Transformers'' release of Ultra Magnus. Principally, Powered Convoy came packaged with "Powered Buggy", who was left out of Magnus's release (see [[#Notes|notes below]] for further details). Omitted from Magnus's instructions is the ability of his chestplate and super robot head to combine to form a small vehicle; the Powered Convoy version of the figure included small rolling wheels on the underside of the chestplate which were removed for Ultra Magnus. Three additional modes were included in the ''Diaclone'' instructions that Hasbro left out: a "preparation base" mode and an "Autobot base" mode were excluded entirely, while the third, a "catapult launcher" mode originally intended and proportioned to accommodate the ''Diaclone'' Jet Robo figure that became [[Starscream (G1)/toys|Starscream]], was shown only on the front of his packaging, interacting with [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]. The Japanese release of Ultra Magnus—released as part of the ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)#Toys 2|Scramble City]]'' sub-line—''did'' include instructions for the preparation base and catapult launcher modes, but replaced the original Autobot base mode with a new configuration.

:The original Ultra Magnus figure has been reissued and redecoed several times down the years, and this article strives to list each edition of the figure under its own heading. The first alteration to Magnus, however, was a [[variant|running change]] made while he was still on shelves: Originally, his tires were made of [[rubber tires|rubber]] and he sported paint on both his small and large robot heads, but this version was replaced with one featuring plastic tires and no paint on either head. In addition, the clear yellow plastic that formed his windows was removed from the cab, leaving just holes instead; and his thighs and fuel tanks were left white, as opposed to the vacuum metalized chrome ones of the original release.

:The small robot component, as well as being part of Optimus Prime, was also released with a different trailer as [[Pepsi Convoy]]. The white Optimus Prime redeco was also repurposed to be [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] himself in the ''[[Transformers vs. G.I. Joe]]'' [[The War Never Ends|#11]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Autobot/UltraMagnus/ultramagnus.htm More information on Ultra Magnus at TFU.info]''
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[[File:Reissue ultra magnus.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67]]
*'''Ultra Magnus''' (December 2000)
**''ID number:'' '''C-69'''
**''Accessories:'' Large robot head, rifle, chest plate, 2 trailer connectors/waist plates, 2 small robot fists (left & right), 2 large robot fists (left & right), 2 missile launchers, 4 missiles

:Ultra Magnus was first reissued in Japan in December of 2000, featuring no discernible changes from the original Japanese edition of the figure. His packaging sported a metallic golden sticker commemorating the fifteenth anniversary of the ''Transformers'' franchise in Japan.

:This reissue of Magnus was accompanied by two exclusive redecos, noted below.

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[[File:Ultra-magnus Matrix Glow.JPG|right|upright=1.67|thumb|Till All Go Number One!]]
*'''Shining Magnus''' ([[December 26]], 2000)
**''ID number:'' '''C-69'''
**''Accessories:'' Large robot head, rifle, chest plate, trailer connector/waist plate, 2 small robot fists (left & right), 2 missile launchers, 4 missiles

: With a yellow cab and an entirely translucent yellow trailer, Shining Magnus is intended to recall the moment in the ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'', just before Optimus Prime dies, when the Matrix is passed to Ultra Magnus and he is bathed in its light. Which was... ''blue'' in the animated movie, but is actually from the Marvel Comics adaption of the said movie.

:Shining Magnus was one of two exclusive redecos released in the wake of the 2000 reissue of the original Ultra Magnus toy. Limited to only 800 pieces, it was available only at the 20th Century Toy Museum toy show, held on [[December 26]], 2000 at the Mitsukoshi Department Store in Yokohama, Japan. The toy is sometimes known as "Matrix Glow Magnus" amongst collectors, or less favorably, "Urine Magnus".

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2001/Autobot/UltraMagnusMatrixGlow/ultramagnus.htm More information on Matrix Glow Magnus at TFU.info]''

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[[File:G1 UltraMagnusPreviewVersion toy.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb|Blue Honkimus Prime]]
*'''Ultra Magnus Yokokuhen Version''' ([[February 26]], 2001)
**''ID number:'' '''C-69'''
**''Accessories:'' Large robot head, rifle, chest plate, trailer connector/waist plate, 2 small robot fists (left & right), 2 missile launchers, 4 missiles

: In the early stages of the development of ''The Transformers: The Movie'', [[The Transformers: The Movie promo|promotional footage]] for the movie was released that depicted Ultra Magnus in the black, red, and dark blue color scheme of the original ''Diaclone'' Powered Convoy toy. As the second of two exclusive redecos released in the wake of the 2000 reissue of the original Ultra Magnus toy, the "Movie Preview Version" (予告編バージョン ''Yokokuhen Bājon'') of Ultra Magnus paid homage to this early appearance. He ''is'' just a redeco of the Magnus figure, however, and so despite his resemblance to the ''Diaclone'' figure, he still lacks that toy's exclusive features, like Powered Buggy, wheels in his chestplate, and a Diaclone pilot.

: Movie Preview Version Ultra Magnus was available exclusively at Toy Festival 2001, held on [[February 26]], 2001 in Tokyo, Japan, limited to 1,500 pieces.

: This toy doubles as the separate character [[Delta Magnus]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2001/Autobot/UltraMagnusPre-Movie/ultramagnus.htm More information on Ultra Magnus Movie Preview Version at TFU.info]''
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====''Transform Jr''====
[[File:Ultramagnus jr.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67|And thus a trend is foreshadowed]]
*'''Ultra Magnus''' (Gokin, 1985)
**''ID number:'' '''C-69'''
**''Accessories:'' Laser Blaster, two fists (left and right), head, cardboard trailer

:As one of the first ''[[Transform Jr]]'' toys, this version of Ultra Magnus was released under the early name for the series, ''Transform Gōkin''. Naturally, the figure is a redeco of the [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Transform Jr|''Transform Jr'' Optimus Prime toy]], a smaller, simplified version of the original Generation 1 cab robot figure intended as a low-cost alternative for younger children. Magnus features a similar transformation to his larger toy, with a removable head in addition to fists, but lacks rubber tires and translucent windows. As with most other ''Transform Jr'' figures, he lacked most of his major accessories, coming only with a rifle (a white redeco of [[Ion blaster|Prime's gun]], rather than Magnus's own unique weapon) and a cardboard replacement for his trailer that had to be assembled by the buyer, and which unsurprisingly, could not form armor.

::*''[http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/reminator4/HTML/g1auto/magnusjr.htm More information on Transform Jr Ultra Magnus at an Ultra Magnus fan site]''

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[[File:Tfjr magnus galvatron.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67]]
*'''Ultra Magnus vs Galvatron''' (multi-pack, 1987)
**''Accessories:'' Laser Blaster, two fists (left and right), head, cardboard trailer

:Later, by the time the line had been rebranded with the more familiar ''Jr'' title, the Magnus figure was re-released in a two-pack with a [[Galvatron (G1)/toys#Seven|vinyl figurine of]] [[Galvatron (G1)/toys|Galvatron]], which also came with a die-cast figurine of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]].
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===''Commemorative Series''===
[[File:G1toy commemorative magnus.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb|So the reissue was later reissued....''All right, give me the bomb''.]]
*'''Ultra Magnus''' (2002/2012)
**''Accessories:'' Large robot head, rifle, chest plate, 2 trailer connectors/waist plates, 2 small robot fists (left & right), 2 large robot fists (left & right), 2 missile launchers, 4 missiles

:Part of their ''[[The Transformers: Generation One Commemorative Series|Commemorative Series]]'' of Generation 1 reissues, Ultra Magnus was released in the first series (Series I) and has proper functional missile launches for the first time in the Western Hemisphere, but this meant that, like all the other ''Commemorative Series'' toys with renewed firing projectiles, his formerly short missiles were infamously lengthened to absurdity [[for safety reasons]]. Additionally, like the ''Commemorative'' Optimus Prime toy, his smokestacks were shortened to prevent breakage.

:The figure was given a surprise re-release in late 2012, Though the "''Commemorative Series''" label was not printed anywhere on the packaging, the included instructions retained the name. The figure is largely similar to its previous ''Commemorative'' release. Despite early product listings by online stores depicting the figure with long smokestacks,<ref name="longstacks">[http://tformers.com/article.php?sid=19045 Premature announcement of long smokestacks for the 2012 Asia reissue of Commemorative Series Ultra Magnus] at TFormers</ref> the stacks are actually still short like on the previous release.<ref name="shortstacks">[http://vxt.ca/2013/01/05/transformers-reviews-commemorative-series-ultra-magnus-missile-modification-tutorial/ Review of the 2012 Asia reissue of Commemorative Series Ultra Magnus] at VTX (the long stacks seen in the photos are explicitly stated to be a custom job)</ref> The cab also has the modified hitch that the Optimus Prime cab received for the [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#G1MoviePrime|2011 ''Chronicle'' DOTM two pack]]. In any case, [[Mold#Deterioration|mold deterioration]] is beginning to catch up to the tooling.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2002/Autobot/CSUltraMagnus/ultramagnus.htm More information on ''Commemorative Series'' Ultra Magnus at TFU.info]''
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===''Masterpiece''===
[[File:Masterpiece UltraMagnus toy.jpg|right|upright=2.2|thumb|I looked like this in a comic [[Revelation (War and Peace)|once]]. ONCE!]]
*'''Ultra Magnus''' (2005/2008)
**''ID number:'' '''MP-2'''
**''Accessories:'' Rifle, Megatron gun with removable silencer, scope and stock, Matrix of Leadership, energon axe

: ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Ultra Magnus is a white redeco of ''Masterpiece'' Convoy (Optimus Prime) with all the same accessories, though some have been redecoed. Additionally, his box can be refolded into his classic trailer configuration, but doesn't hold up since it's, well, cardboard. He retains the Matrix, which he can indeed open. Dammit, open.

: As a [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] product, ''Masterpiece'' Ultra Magnus was never released in the US, but was eventually released by Hasbro Australia in 2005 for their market as a Target exclusive, retaining his Japanese packaging, with simple stickers stating a recommended age of 8+, as well as presenting Hasbro Australia's details and explaining what the product was.

: Additionally, [[TakaraTomy]] reissued Masterpiece Ultra Magnus in 2008 sporting their logo in the top right-hand corner of the box to replace the Takara logo in the bottom right featured on the original release in 2005. This reissue has been met with some [[quality control]] issues much like that of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#mp4|Convoy Perfect Edition]], such as bad paint applications and chipping, misaligned doors, and even [[Misassembly|mis-assembled]] headlights which have been installed upside down.

: Like all the Japanese versions of this mold, Ultra Magnus features different images on his communicators than all other releases. In his case he features [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] and a digital readout.

: This mold was also used to make ''Masterpiece'' "[[Eldedroid#Masterpiece|Convoy Black Version]]".

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Cybertron/UltraMagnus/ultramagnus.htm More information on Masterpiece Ultra Magnus at TFU.info]''
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[[File:MP22-UltraMagnus.jpg|right|upright=2.2|thumb|You know what? He can deal with this n...hold on, WHY THE HELL DOES HIS CAB HAVE A RED BUMPER--<br>''*looks at screencaps*''<br>oh<br>huh]]
*'''Ultra Magnus''' ([[2014]]-[[December 27|12-27]]/[[2018]]-[[January 27|01-27]])
**''ID number:'' '''MP-22'''
**''Accessories:'' Super Blaster Gun, 2 missiles, [[Spike Witwicky (G1)#MP22|Spike figure]], [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)#MP22|Daniel figure]], left & right Matrix hands, neutral face, screaming face

: The second release of ''Masterpiece'' Ultra Magnus is an all new, much more show-accurate mold, transforming into a car carrier with a functioning gate/ramp. He can carry 4 smaller ''Masterpiece'' Autobots in the top and bottom of his trailer, which features small indents to stop them from rolling off. While the cab in his [[alternate mode|vehicle mode]] is heavily modeled on the MP-10 Optimus Prime mold, it doesn't transform into a separate white Optimus Prime figure, but rather folds inside-out to form his upper torso. The cab is much lighter than the MP-10 cab (due to it being hollow), and neither can carry the other's trailer due to differences in the height of the back section and a different attachment process.

:He is designed to interact with the Matrix of Leadership of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP10|MP-10 Optimus Prime]] in many ways: His chest opens to reveal a Matrix compartment, and he comes with an extra pair of hands specifically molded to hold the Matrix. To complement this, his regular, "neutral" face can be replaced with an alternative "screaming" face. Both faces can store on a panel in his back, and removing his face reveals a white face-plated design underneath the helmet, as a reference to the "White Optimus in armor" design of the original toy.

:For his other accessories and features, he comes with his gun, and his two non-firing shoulder missile launchers. The gun stores in the trailer in vehicle mode, while the launchers have removable missiles, and are no longer detachable, instead being connected to poseable armatures. Finally, he also comes with articulated figurines of Spike and Daniel, who can ride in his cab in vehicle mode.

[[File:MP-22 Ultra Magnus stock.jpg|right|1px]]
:The artwork on the spec card and instruction booklet are in a different style to other TakaraTomy ''Masterpiece'' releases. Also, early [[Stock photography|stock photo]]s depicted him [[:File:MP-22 Ultra Magnus stock.jpg|with red inner legs and a gray gun.]]

:If bought in Asian markets outside Japan, Ultra Magnus comes with a [[collector coin]]. The coin comes in a package designed after Ultra Magnus's chest, although the white "belt" is upside-down compared to the ''Masterpiece'' figure.

:In Australia, Ultra Magnus was a [[Toys"R"Us]] [[exclusive]], being limited to 400 pieces. This release has a different box design (the same artwork as the instruction manual on the regular release) and instructions in English.

:This figure was reissued on [[January 27]], [[2018]].

:''Masterpiece'' Ultra Magnus was later redecoed as [[Delta Magnus#Masterpiece|Delta Magnus]].
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* '''Ultra Magnus''' Mini Die-Cast figure (2017)
**''ID number:'' '''2'''

:The Hasbro Asia release of ''Masterpiece'' [[Grapple (G1)#Masterpiece|Grapple]] comes with a mini Ultra Magnus figure, the second in a range of non transformable collectables made from <s>lost art</s> Die-Cast metal and based on the corresponding ''Masterpiece'' figure (MP-22).
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===''G-2''===
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[[File:G2toy-LaserUltraMagnus.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb|Probably the only Magnus repaint of Prime we'll ever get who isn't just white.]]
*'''Laser Ultra Magnus''' (2006)
**''ID number:'' ''' TRF-13-S'''
**''Accessories:'' Gun, sword, 5 discs, ripple missile launcher, 10 missiles, 1 foam missile, foam missile launcher air bellows

: An [[e-HOBBY]] exclusive, ''G-2'' Laser Ultra Magnus is a redeco of Laser Optimus Prime, transforming into a mid-1990s Western Star 4964EX extended-hood truck pulling a blue and white tanker trailer. He was packaged in the reissue Laser Optimus Prime's box, along with Prime's instructions, bio card, and sticker sheet. Yes, the stickers that have "Optimus Prime" written on them.

:In [[robot mode]], the bottom of the truck becomes a windowed chest based upon the original Optimus Prime toy (and the original Ultra Magnus's cab). His main gimmick is light-up LED headlights and a [[Light-piping|lightpipe]] in the bottom of his right fist, illuminated by an LED in his right forearm, that illuminates his clear sword or his double-barreled rifle if they are placed in that hand. All three LEDs are activated simultaneously by pressing the sunroof-like depression on the roof of the truck.

:The trailer unfolds to form a battle station bristling with many firing weapons. Primarily, these are an air-powered missile launcher, a ripple rocket launcher with 5 missiles that can be launched individually (This turret can also be mounted in Laser Magnus's hand) and a "disc launcher" that fires several white plastic discs. This disc launcher is the only weapon that can be used in [[alternate mode|vehicle mode]].

:This release uses the toolings that were modified for the ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Scourge (RID)#Robots in Disguise (2001)|Scourge]] toy, and thus has smooth discs and a less pointy sword. This mold was also planned to be used for the canceled ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Toxitron (Universe)#Universe (2003)|Toxitron]] toy.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Cybertron/UltraMagnus/ultramagnus.htm More information on Laser Ultra Magnus at TFU.info]''
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===''Classics''===
[[File:Transformers-classics-BfAC-Ultra-Magnus.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Arctic Camo Prime!]]
*'''Ultra Magnus vs Skywarp: Battle For Autobot City''' (Multi-pack, 2007)
**''Accessories:'' Smokestack/laser cannons, Wind vane/blaster

: A [[Target]]-[[exclusive]] [[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' Voyager Class [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Classics (2006)|Optimus Prime]], Ultra Magnus transforms into a modern cab-over style truck of made up model, dominated by a large wind vane on his roof. In robot mode, his wind vane transforms into a large ion blaster, and his smokestacks transform into a smaller laser cannon. Additionally, both weapons can combine together to form a double-barreled over-shoulder weapon. As with most ''Classics'' toys, he features a heat-sensitive [[rubsign]].

: He was released with [[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Classics (2006)|Skywarp]] as part of the "Battle for Autobot City" set. He was also available in Woolworth stores throughout the United Kingdom.

: The final production toy has several major paint application differences compared to [[:File:ClassicsUltraMagnus toy.jpg|the toy depicted on the packaging]], including the loss of all light blue paint (including his faceplate and crest, both replaced with silver) and darker blue on his thighs. Also, his red eyes are replaced with blue light-piped eyes, and it seems the smokestacks/double-barreled gun were originally going to be cast or painted white instead of the final version's unpainted black.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Autobot/ClassicsUltraMagnus/ultramagnus.htm More information on Classics Ultra Magnus at TFU.info]''
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*'''Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus''' (Multi-pack, 2007)
**''Accessories:'' Smokestack/laser cannons, Wind vane/blaster

:In Asian markets, such as Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia, and the Philippines, Ultra Magnus was also made available as part of a special two-pack with Voyager Class Optimus Prime in late 2007. Aside from the unique packaging, the toys are identical to their single releases.
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===''Titanium Series''===
[[File:TitaniumHero UltraMagnus.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66|Oh, that's right, this Ultra Magnus guy had a trailer or something, didn't he?]]
*'''Ultra Magnus''' (6-inch Cybertron Heroes, 2007)
**''Accessories:'' Laser rifle, display stand, 2 rocket launchers

: ''Titanium Cybertron Heroes'' Ultra Magnus is an all-new sculpt constructed mostly of die-cast metal. For the first time, Ultra Magnus's cab and trailer are one piece, rather than a [[partformer]] like the Generation 1 toy version, although the cab is only held on by a peg and can be detached, resulting in a small, super-deformed cab. The toy's wheels can all spin. He transforms very similarly to the original toy, but the aforementioned truck cab now folds down into his back rather than detaching and reconnecting, with his head flipping out of the back of the cab.

: Ultra Magnus is armed with a gray laser rifle and two shoulder-mounted, non-firing rocket launchers which, due to some mistake, face top-down when attached in [[robot mode]]. It is unknown whether the launchers were somehow mirror-flipped in manufacture or if his shoulder assemblies [[Misassembly|were switched]]. The latter is perhaps supported by the orientation of molding detail shown in the [[instructions]] and on the Generation 1 toy, although the [[tampograph]]s could argue against this. One can easily "correct" this by unscrewing his blue forearms and swapping out the shoulders, allowing the launchers to face top-up.

: Unfortunately, due to the robot mode-oriented design of this figure, as well as size limitations, the rear ramp is now solely part of his legs as detail and cannot fold down, nor is there clearance space for any other vehicles to be transported. For some reason, on the side of each of Magnus's legs/ the back of his [[alternate mode|vehicle mode]] trailer there are white flip-out wing shaped panels. The paint on these panels flakes off easily, so it's best never to touch them. Like most, if not all, 6-inch Titaniums, his joints are very floppy. His left shoulder on some copies is one of the loosest (if not ''the loosest'') ball joints on a Transformers figure ever. In another possible mis-assembly issue, the figure's knees bend far more ''forwards'' than backwards. Strangely, the molded detail on the tops of the thighs contradicts this being a mis-assembly. The vehicle mode also has a hard time staying as it should as very few pieces actually tab together.

:His chest panel can flip up to reveal a shallow recess for the Autobot Matrix of Leadership, though no Matrix accessory to date is actually flat enough to fit inside.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/Autobot/TitUltraMagnus/ultramagnus.htm More information on Titanium Series Ultra Magnus at TFU.info]''

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[[File:Titanium WarWithin ultramagnus.JPG|right|upright=1.67|thumb|A toy to remember that time Ultra Magnus never looked like this in ''The War Within''.]]
*'''(War Within) Ultra Magnus''' (6-inch Cybertron Heroes, 2007)
**''Accessories:'' Laser rifle, display stand

: A [[redeco]] of the 6-inch War Within Optimus Prime, transforming into a Cybertronian truck mode used by Prime (but not Magnus) in "[[Transformers: The War Within|The War Within]]" comics. The original Prime figure was personally designed by comic artist [[Don Figueroa]], who created the original comic design in the first place, and his signature is left on the figure in the most literal way: The word "DON" can be seen sculpted into the barrel of his gun.

: As a ''[[Titanium Series]]'' figure, Magnus is made in large part from [[die-cast]] metal, but like so many of the other toys in the ''Titanium'' line, his plastic joints have trouble supporting his heavy metal weight. He comes with the generic display stand shared by all of the 6" "Cybertron Heroes", with a unique, removable nameplate.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/Autobot/TitTWWUltraMagnus/ultramagnus.htm More information on War Within Ultra Magnus at TFU.info]''
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===''Alternity''===
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[[File:Alternity Ultra Magnus.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb|Because a car carrier isn't a car.]]
*'''Ultla Magnus {{sic}} [Brilliant White Pearl]''' (2010)
**''ID number:'' '''A-01U'''

:An [[e-HOBBY]]-exclusive redeco of ''[[Transformers: Alternity|Alternity]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Alternity|Convoy]], Ultra Magnus transforms into a white 1:32 scale Nissan GT-R, featuring die-cast metal parts, an opening hood, trunk and doors, as well as an interior, complete with his feet and thighs being sculpted to form the back seats. This complex figure stands at 6.5" tall and is armed with a pair of blasters on each arm.

:The e-HOBBY version came packed with an [[Nissan GT-R / Ultra Magnus (Brilliant Pearl White)|exclusive comic book]]. A version available via Hasbro Asia is identical to the e-HOBBY version except it does not include the pack-in comic (like most e-HOBBY exclusives released outside of Japan).

:The mold suffers from a [[Design flaw|minor design oversight]], wherein the rear Nissan badge collides with his left leg strut when the left foot is hinged over and pegged into a clear plastic socket during transformation, with the results being that the connection is slightly crooked, isn't very secure, and sometimes pops off, and that the crooked pegging often causes the socket to crack.

:This mold was also used to make [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)#Alternity 2|Convoy Super Black]] and ''Alternity'' [[Dai Atlas (Zone)#Alternity|Dai Atlas]], and retooled to make [[Star Saber (Victory)#GT|GT-R Saber]], [[Megatron (G1)/toys#GT|GT-R Megatron]], and [[Fortress Maximus (G1)#GT|GT-R Maximus]].

:His name is misspelled "Ult'''''l'''''a Magnus" on his packaging. (Conversely, [[Dai Atlas (Zone)#Alternity|Dai Atlas]] from the same line is misspelled "Dai At'''''r'''''as".)
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===''United''===
[[File:Unitedtoy-UltraMagnus.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb|If you can't afford the [[#Masterpiece|''Masterpiece'' Ultra Magnus]], you can still get yourself a<s>n Albino Optimus Prime</s> Cabnus.]]
*'''Ultra Magnus''' ([[September 29]], 2012)
**''Accessories:'' Smokestack/laser cannons, Wind vane/blaster

: ''[[Transformers United|United]]'' Ultra Magnus is a redeco of [[#Classics|his ''Classics'' toy]], replacing his opaque blue plastic with white, omitting his blue and black [[paint operation]]s, painting his hands and shin-vents white, adding silver paint to his kneepads, thighs, pelvis, and smokestack cannons, painting his [[mouthplate]] and crest blue, replacing his bronze-painted wheel rims with silver, and [[vacuum metallizing]] his vehicle grill and fenders. He was exclusively released in Hasbro Asia's markets.

:While unconfirmed, it seems likely that this release was conceived to satisfy then-high collector demand for the original ''Classics'' Ultra Magnus, a result of the unofficial City Commander upgrade kit released for the figure by "[[IP theft|third party]]" company FansProject. Of course, as an unlicensed product, the kit was not acknowledged in any official marketing material for the re-released toy.
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===''Timelines''===
[[File:TCCSS1-UltraMammoth.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67|If I'm a mammoth I'm a very manly mammoth.]]
*'''Ultra Mammoth''' (Ultra Class, 2012)
**''TFSS1 number'': '''6'''
**''Accessories:'' [[Blue Bolts]] cannon, two Energy Bolts, two Thunderstrike missiles, [[Reconfiguration Matrix]]

: Representing the new body [[Ultra Magnus (G1)#Classics|Ultra Magnus]] used in ''[[Beast Wars Shattered Glass]]'', the Ultra Mammoth toy is a light blue and white redeco of ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars (Japanese toyline)#1999 (Beast Wars Neo)|Beast Wars Neo]]'' [[Big Convoy]]. Like Big Convoy, Ultra Mammoth is a [[shellformer]], as practically all of his [[beast mode]] components are shells that fit around the compressed robot to form this mode. He technically has a beast "[[attack mode]]", in which his large cannon is folded out. His main body has a similar color scheme to Ultra Magnus's "Super Mode" (though with more white), and his head has the color scheme of regular Magnus.

: In [[robot mode]], Ultra Mammoth is absolutely chock-full of weapons and gimmicks. First and foremost, the spring-loaded Blue Bolts cannon, formed out of the beast's head, back, and tail, can fire two missiles from two barrels in succession with a rotating dial. It is held in his hands via [[5 mm post]] and can be stored on his back, though doing so may cause some stability problems owing to its weight. Second, his shoulders can be swung up to reveal sculpted, non-firing missile pods. Third, he has flip-out {{w|tonfa}} melee weapons in his forearms. Fourth, the two beast panels on the sides of his legs feature two spring-loaded missile launchers that fire his anchor-shaped projectiles, which can be loosely held in his hands. Last, but certainly not least, his chest panel flips down, revealing a removable Matrix toy accessory in vacuum-metalized sliver with a transparent blue center. This accessory can be held by any figure with standard 5mm fist holes.

: The anchor-shaped Thunderstrike missiles have been retooled since the previous two uses of this mold, presumably for safety reasons, and as a result can no longer be kept loaded in beast mode. The instructions refer to the space in his chest as a "[[Dead Matrix]] annex," but the Matrix within is referred to as the [[Reconfiguration Matrix]] in packaging and was ultimately depicted by [[Beast Wars Shattered Glass|tie-in fiction]] as the [[Origin Matrix]].

: Ultra Mammoth is one of the first six [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] [[exclusive]] figures to be offered via the [[Transformers Figure Subscription Service|Figure Subscription Service]] in 2013.

{{note|The Ultra Mammoth figure was also repurposed as a different guy also called [[Ultra Mammoth]].}}

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Maximal/TFCCUltraMammoth/ultramammoth.htm More information on Ultra Mammoth at TFU.info]''
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===''Bot Shots''===
[[File:BStoy-3packUltraMagnus.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|[[Hasbro|They]] didn't even bother painting me white this time.]]
*'''Red Alert / Ultra Magnus / Mirage''' (Multi-pack, 2013)
**''Series'': '''2'''
**''Number'': '''BP010'''
***''Fist strength'': '''840'''
***''Blaster strength'': '''248'''
***''Sword strength'': '''532'''

:Part of the third wave of ''[[Bot Shots (toyline)|Bot Shots]]'' Series 2 three-packs, Ultra Magnus is a [[redeco]] of [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys#BotShotJumpShot|Jump Shot Optimus Prime]], and turns into a heavily-armed futuristic firetruck heavily based on ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]'' [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]]. As a Jump Shot toy, an impact to his front bumper will cause him to spring up and [[Autotransformation|autotransform]] into robot mode. He also has an "spinner" in his chest that shows his three attack types and power levels. He comes in a three-pack with [[Red Alert (G1)/toys|Jump Shot Red Alert]] and [[Mirage (G1)#3pack|Super Bot Mirage]].
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===''Prime''===
[[File:BHtoy Voyager Ultra Magnus.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66| Instead of a white repaint, I'm now a blue repaint.]]
*'''Ultra Magnus''' (Voyager Class, 2013)
**''Series / Number'': '''2 / 005'''
**''Accessories'': [[Forge of Solus Prime#Beast Hunters|Forge of Solus battle hammer]], backpack, two missiles
{{note|The ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|Prime: Beast Hunters]]'' [[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]] toy was [[repurposing|repurposed]] as the ''[[Transformers Cloud|Cloud]]'' version of Ultra Magnus.}}

: Part of the third wave of ''Prime: Beast Hunters'' Voyager Class toys, Ultra Magnus is a retool/redeco of the ''Prime: Robots in Disguise'' Voyager Class [[Optimus Prime (WFC)#Voyager|Optimus Prime]] toy. He lacks the smokestacks from previous versions of this mold, and his forearms sport the additional 5 mm post holes from the [[TakaraTomy]] [[Arms Micron]] release of Optimus Prime. His shoulders can be flipped down to be used as built-in pressure-firing [[missile]] launchers, and the missiles can store on clips on said shoulders.

:He comes with a larger-scale "Forge of Solus battle hammer", which features a 5mm handle. He also comes with a winged backpack that is similar in appearance to the one used by ''Beast Hunters'' [[Optimus Prime (WFC)/toys#BHVoyager|Optimus Prime]]. Its wings each feature a clip for missile storage, and the backpack is stored in vehicle mode by mounting all three of its 5mm pegs onto the truck rear peg-holes. The backpack has a tab and peg-hole for storing the hammer in either mode.

:Most Ultra Magnus toys are [[Misassembly|misassembled]]: His leg panels have been swapped compared to his stock photography and to other uses of this mold. This is easily fixed by unscrewing the panels and swapping them. Additionally, his instructions and stock photography depict him with smokestacks that he doesn't have anymore. His instructions also include the [[Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 16|sixteenth chapter]] of the ''[[Tales of the Beast Hunters]]'' series. The original TakaraTomy version of this mold was redecoed to make ''Prime'' AM-25 [[Nemesis Prime (Prime)#Prime|Nemesis Prime]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Autobot/UltraMagnus/ultramagnus.htm More information on ''Beast Hunters'' Ultra Magnus at TFU.info]''

===Ultra Magnus Pen===
[[File:UltraMagnusPen.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]
*'''Transformers Ultra Magnus Pen''' (2014)
**''Accessories:'' Blaster

: A white redeco of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Optimus Prime Pen|Optimus Prime Pen]] produced by [[Sentinel (company)|Sentinel]] as part of the 30th anniversary of ''Transformers'', Ultra Magnus Pen is a well-articulated robot that folds into the shape of a rather chunky, but functional ballpoint pen. The tip of the pen is formed from his blaster, with the barrel acting as a cap. Ultra Magnus Pen was sold exclusively through [http://www.hlj.com/ HobbyLink Japan].

: This mold was also used to make [[Nemesis Prime (G1)#Black Convoy Pen|Black Convoy Pen]].
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===''Hero Mashers''===
[[File:HM-toy Optimus.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Magnus: The Hand of Fate.]]
*'''Optimus Prime''' (Battle Upgrade, 2014)
**''Pieces'': '''18'''
**''Accessories'': Missile-launching rifle, missile, energy axe, cannon, left & right rocket pods, "Ultra Magnus" right forearm & fist

: Part of the first wave of "Battle Upgrade" ''[[Hero Mashers]]'' toys, Optimus is a non-transforming action figure with ratchet-joints, about six inches tall. He is designed with a removable head, forearms, thighs, and lower legs, all of which use the same clip-peg/hole joint. This means his pieces can be swapped around in any order, as well as swapped with any other ''Hero Mashers'' figure... which includes figures from [[Marvel Comics]], ''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]'', and ''[[Jurassic Park|Jurassic World]]'', meaning you can make some pretty freaky combinations.

: Each "Battle Upgrade" figure comes with an extra part from a different character otherwise not appearing in the line: Optimus comes with Ultra Magnus's right arm, which is a retooling of [[Bulkhead (Prime)#Hero Mashers|Bulkhead]]'s, removing the spring-loaded missile-launcher gimmick.
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===''Kre-O''===
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[[File:KreO-Toy UltraMagnusC84.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|right]]
*'''Kreon Class of 1984''' (Kreon figure set, [[2014]])
**''Set number'': '''B0090'''
**''Voted'': Teacher's Pet
**''Accessories'': Optimus rifle

:[[Kreon]] Ultra Magnus is based on the inner "white Optimus" robot of the original toy, with extensive toy-based details, including red eyes.

:He was only available in a [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2014 [[exclusive]] pack of 30 Kreons dubbed the "[[Kreon Class of 1984]]". Remaining stock was to be sold at [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] online, only there ''was'' no remaining stock after the show.

:And yes, his inclusion in this 1984-themed set is confusing, as Magnus did not appear in ''Transformers'' in any capacity until 1986.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2014/Autobot/SDCCKre-OUltraMagnus/ultramagnus.htm More information on Ultra Magnus at TFU.info]''
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===''Transformers'' (2014)===
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[[File:Transformers-2014-legion-ultra-magnus-toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|My other pants are in the cleaners.]]
*'''Ultra Magnus''' (Legion Class, 2015)

:Legion Class Ultra Magnus is a redeco of [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|''Transformers'' (2010)]] ''[[Reveal the Shield]]'' [[Legends Class (2005)|Legends Class]] [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#2010Legend|Optimus Prime]], with the retooled hands and head/vehicle mode roof originally created for [[Transformers: Generations#Asian market exclusives ("GDO")|''Generations'' GDO]] Legends Class [[Motormaster (G1)#Generations|Motorbreath]]. While the deco partially follows previous redecos of Optimus Prime figures as Ultra Magnus's "inner robot", with a teal/blue [[mouthplate]], a teal/blue forehead crest [[paint operation]], red eyes and blue/teal windows, it also features several rather ''odd'' deco choices, namely extremely dark charcoal gray legs (to the point of nearly looking ''black'') and ''white'' wheels (though coincidentally based on his Transform Jr. toy).

:Ultra Magnus comes in packaging that is based on the packaging design for the concurrently released ''Combiner Wars''-era ''Generations'' figures, but replaces the name ''Generations'' with "Authentic Transformers". Since Ultra Magnus and his [[wave]]-mates ship with three figures previously released under what we consider a generic [[Transformers (2014 toyline)|''Transformers'' (2014) toy line]], all of them now in the new packaging style, we consider Ultra Magnus to be part of that line as well. The [[package art]] used for Ultra Magnus is hilariously inaccurate, as it is recolored from artwork originally created for the [[Transformers Legends (mobile game)|''Legends'' mobile game]], depicting Ultra Magnus's armored form ''colored as his inner robot''.

:The wave that contains Ultra Magnus has thus far been found at Fred's, Gordmans, Dollar General, and Family Dollar stores in the United States, but was available at general retail in Hong Kong and from Australian Target stores.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2015/Autobot/FDUltraMagnus/ultramagnus.htm More information on Ultra Magnus at TFU.info]
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===''Generations''===
====''Combiner Wars''====
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[[File:CombinerWarsUltraMagnus.jpg|upright=2|thumb|"You may take Albino Prime from me, but you can never leave my chest empty!"]]
*'''Ultra Magnus''' (Leader Class, 2015)
**''Accessories:'' Two guns, [[Minimus Ambus]] figure

:''[[Combiner Wars (toyline)|Combiner Wars]]'' Ultra Magnus is an all-new Leader Class mold, with a [[robot mode]] based on [[Nick Roche]]'s design for the character in [[IDW Publishing]]'s ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' and transforming into a truck and trailer. Although the truck and trailer cannot be seperated, they are connected by a pivot joint that still allows one to move independent of the other. He includes a small [[Minimus Ambus]], based on [[Alex Milne]]'s design for the character, that can be stored inside his chest in robot mode. In vehicle mode, the trailer-bed has a set of 3 notches that seemingly correspond with tabs on Minimus, however, it is a loose fit, and Minimus will detatch with a little shaking. Artist [[Andrew Griffith]] also worked with Hasbro on Minimus's toy design and "cockpit" within Magnus.<ref>[https://twitter.com/glovestudios/status/566697537730408449 Andrew Griffith on Twitter]</ref> Minimus is not necessary for transformation and Ultra Magnus can be completed without seating him in the cockpit.

:Ultra Magnus includes two [[5 mm post|5mm]] guns, which can be combined with his shoulder-mounted missile launchers to form a large hammer weapon, in homage to the character's [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|''Animated'']] and [[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|''Prime'' incarnations]]. Note that in robot form, Ultra Magnus lacks 5mm holes in his hands for his guns; instead, his fingers open and close like the hands of Combiner class Combiner War toys. This means that he isn't able to strongly hold his guns, making them prone to falling out. The door sculpted into Ultra Magnus's cab suggests that it is intended to represent a positively ''gargantuan'' vehicle, with the trailer being perhaps seven stories tall if [[scale]]d to a human. Hasbro representatives at [[Toy Fair 2015]] said that his ladder sculpts were intended to match in scale similar ladder sculpts on ''Combiner Wars'' [[Devastator (G1)#Generations|Devastator]].

:Ultra Magnus comes with a character card based on his packaging art, which was drawn by [[Marcelo Matere]].

:The mold was also heavily retooled into ''[[Titans Return (toyline)|Titans Return]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#Titans Return|Powermaster Optimus Prime]].
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2015/Autobot/CWUltraMagnus/ultramagnus.htm More information on Ultra Magnus at TFU.info]
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====''Platinum Edition''====
[[File:TF-Platinum-Edition-Autobot-Heroes-Ultra-Magnus.jpg|upright=2|thumb|"Beware, my retool is nearby.."]]
*'''Autobot Heroes''' (5-pack, 2016)
**''Accessories'': Springer's weapons (dual missile launcher, two missiles, rotor blades/sword), Arcee's weapons (2 swords), Kup's "laser musket" rifle/exhaust pipe, Ultra Magnus' 2 guns, Blurr's weapons (Sniper rifle, left & right pistols), Minimus Ambus figure

:Part of Hasbro's ''[[Transformers: Platinum Edition|Platinum Edition]]'' offerings for 2016 intended to commemorate the 30th anniversary of ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'', Ultra Magnus is a redeco of his ''Combiner Wars'' Leader Class toy, featuring some plastic color changes: The white plastic parts are now truly ''white'', compared to the more creamy color of the original version; also, several parts previously cast in blue plastic have been changed to white and vice versa, with some of them being (at least partially) painted over to restore the original color. The metallic blue color for the chest section and the forearm panels is not only visibly rather conspicuous compared to his unpainted blue parts, but also makes tabbing his arms together in truck mode considerably more difficult, due to the paintjob resulting in a thicker tab and smaller slot. Additional painted details include painted rims and a blue striping on his cab. He also retains his [[Minimus Ambus#Platinum Edition|Minimus Ambus]] figure, who is cast in the same white plastic as Ultra Magnus's white parts and features more light and dark green paint operations on his torso than the original release, both of which are considerably darker and more saturated than the original's lighter, "pearly" green paint operations.

:Ultra Magnus was released as part of 5-pack with [[Arcee (G1)/toys#AutobotHeroes|Arcee]], [[Springer (G1)/toys#Platinum Edition|Autobot Springer]], [[Kup (G1)/toys#AutobotHeroes|Sergeant Kup]], and [[Blurr (G1)/toys#AutobotHeroes|Blurr]]. The set also included a recreation of the theatrical poster for the 1986 movie. In the United States, this set was officially a [[Target]] exclusive, but was only available via the company's website, never sold in stores. It was also released in Singapore, although it's currently unknown whether it was exclusive to any particular stores there or not. In Canada, it was available via the Canadian [[Walmart]] website but never found in stores, whereas in the United Kingdom, it was available via [[Toys"R"Us]] stores and the website. In Spain, it was available via the Spanish subsidiaries of both [[Amazon (website)|Amazon]] and Carrefour, as well as the department store chain El Corte Inglés, supposedly also only available online. In Germany, it was available via retailer Real and specialty store Rappelkiste Ahlen, also only available online.
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====''Alt-Modes''====
[[File:Alt-Modes UltraMagnus.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb]]
*'''Ultra Magnus''' (Alt-Modes, 2016)

:A retool of ''[[Alt-Modes]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#Alt-Modes|Optimus Prime]] with a new head and chest, Ultra Magnus is a super deformed toy whose body transforms into a truck when the Autobot faction symbol on his head is flipped. He was [[Blindpacking|blind-boxed]] and available in the first collection of the toyline.

:The original version of the mold was also used to make [[Nemesis Prime (G1)#Alt-Modes|Nemesis Prime]].
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====''Titans Return''====
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[[File:TitansReturntoy-UltraMagnus.jpg|thumb|The smallest Soldier who ever lived!]]
*'''Leinad & Arcee''' / '''Ultra Magnus''' (Special Edition, 2017)
**''Accessories:'' [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)#Generations|Leinad]] Titan Master, Ultra Magnus Titan Master, guns

: ''[[Titans Return (toyline)|Titans Return]]'' Ultra Magnus is a redeco/retool of ''Titans Return'' Titan Master [[Fangry (G1)#Generations|Fangry]] with a new Titan Master head, and he is a solo [[Titan Master]] included with [[Arcee (G1)/toys#Titans Return|Arcee]], a redeco/retool of [[Blurr (G1)/toys#Titans Return|Blurr]]. The Titan Master in robot mode is themed after the original toy's inner robot figure, while his head mode face is based on the armored Magnus head. The set debuted at [[HasCon 2017]] before a later release at [[New York Comic Con]] 2017 and a standard release<ref>[http://io9.gizmodo.com/hasbros-own-convention-will-sell-you-a-giant-transforme-1797331311 Hasbro's Own Convention Will Sell You a Giant Transformer That Actually Charges Your Phone]</ref> at [[Toys"R"Us]]. Like [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#TRCOV|Rodimus Prime]], [[Thunderwing (G1)#Titans Return|Thunderwing]], and [[Scorponok (G1)/toys#Generations|Scorponok]], Ultra Magnus also features a die-cast Titan Master torso and head mode face.

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[[File:TF-Titans-Return-Siege-on-Cybertron-Magnus-Prime.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb]]
*'''Siege on Cybertron''' (2017)
:The ''Titans Return'' [[Magnus Prime#Toys|Magnus Prime]] figure may or may not qualify as a toy of Ultra Magnus. See that page for further detail.
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====''War for Cybertron: Siege''====
[[File:War-for-Cybertron-Siege-Leader-Ultra-Magnus.jpg|thumb|upright=2.2|It comes with a white Magnus cab that ''isn't an Optimus redeco?'' Time to channel ''Unsolved Mysteries'', with [[Robert Stack]]!]]
*'''Ultra Magnus''' (Leader Class, [[2018]])
**''Hasbro ID number'': '''WFC-S13'''
**''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''SG-07'''
**''TakaraTomy release date'': '''[[February 23]], 2019'''
**''Hidden message code'': '''FORGEOFSOLUS'''
**''Accessories'': "RT-15 Stethoscopic Detector," 2 "C-30 Magnetic Inducer Launchers," 2 "W-HV-1000 Simulacrum Blasters," 7 [[Magnus Armor]] pieces

:Part of the first wave of ''[[War for Cybertron: Siege|Siege]]'' Leader Class figures, Ultra Magnus transforms from robot to a car carrier truck inspired by his ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Ultra Magnus (RID)|incarnation]] and back! The most notable feature of this toy is that the trailer transforms into the Magnus Armor and combines with the Voyager-sized inner robot to form the super robot mode, making this the first official mainline representation of the armor since Magnus's original toy back in 1986. Ultra Magnus also features "battle damage" paint applications on several parts of his body, as well as multiple hardpoints all over himself and his weapons to accommodate "Fire Blasts" from the [[Battle Master]]s assortment, which can be used to simulate blaster fire or explosions. He includes five weapons compatible with the [[C.O.M.B.A.T. System]]. His "RT-15 Stethoscopic Detector" is silver in painted samples at [[San Diego Comic-Con#2018|SDCC 2018]], Hasbro's stock renders, and [[stock photography]], while [[TakaraTomy]] stock photography (to the right) shows it in red with silver highlights. The final blaster is molded in red and painted silver, except for the grip which is left as bare red plastic. Though his two black blasters continue the ''Robots in Disguise'' Ultra Magnus homage, mirroring the detailing placed just behind that Magnus's cab, their hexagonal tips resemble that of ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys#Cybertron|Optimus Prime]]'s Super Mode leg cannons, a comparison strengthened by the stock photos using the black blasters as leg mounted cannons.

:Although both the inner robot and Magnus armor have sideways ankle joints, the feet of the Magnus armor are molded to set the feet permanently at an angle, forcing Ultra Magnus' legs into an A-stance. While this doesn't hinder the robot mode to any great degree, it creates visibly slanted protrusions while in truck mode. Additionally, be sure the truck cab's upper half is moved as far forward as possible when transforming to truck mode, otherwise the connection between the truck cab and trailer will be placed under a great deal of strain once connected.

:The inner robot, while still resembling Optimus Prime in general appearance, is actually a different mold from ''Siege'' Voyager Class [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Optimus Prime]].

:This toy was redecoed into ''[[War for Cybertron Trilogy (toyline)#NetflixToyline|War for Cybertron Trilogy]]'' Ultra Magnus (below), and retooled and given new accessories to become ''Siege'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#S40|Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime]]. It was differently retooled for the ''[[War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Kingdom]]'' Ultra Magnus (below).
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====''War for Cybertron Trilogy''====
[[File:Netflix-WFC-Ultra-Magnus-Rung-Spoiler-Pack.jpg|thumb|upright=2.2|[[Play-Doh|Fun to play with, not to eat.]]]]
*'''Spoiler Pack''' (Leader Unboxing, [[2020]])
**''TakaraTomy ID number:'' '''WFC-08'''
**''TakaraTomy release date:'' [[December 19]], 2020
**''Accessories:'' "RT-15 Stethoscopic Detector," 2 "C-30 Magnetic Inducer Launchers," 2 "W-HV-1000 Simulacrum Blasters," 7 [[Magnus Armor]] pieces, [[Rung (G1)#War for Cybertron Trilogy|Battlefield Rung]] [[Battle Master]], 2 "Fire Blasts", 3 [[energon cube]]s, [[Play-Doh|compound]]

:Promoting the ''Siege'' season of the [[Netflix]] [[Transformers: War for Cybertron Trilogy (cartoon)|''War for Cybertron Trilogy'' cartoon]], this ''[[War for Cybertron Trilogy (toyline)|War for Cybertron Trilogy]]'' Leader Unboxing set contains a slathered redeco of ''Siege'' Leader Ultra Magnus, plus some extras that beef up the price (including the translucent pink "[[Rung (G1)#War for Cybertron Trilogy|Battlefield Rung]]" and a compound in which a buyer can dig to reveal energon cubes).

:The Cybertronian text on the package reads "BATTLEFIELD RUNG", while the 'spoiler' text inside features a Decepticon-themed quote: "I ULTRA MAGNUS / IN GOOD FAITH / HEREBY SURRENDER / TO YOU" and an Autobot-themed one: "THIS CAN ONLY / MEAN ONE THING / [[Ultra Magnus Dies!!|ULTRA MAGNUS IS DEAD]]". These are direct quotes that refer to Ultra Magnus's decision and its consequences in the [[Siege episode 2|second]] and [[Siege episode 4|fourth]] episode of the ''Siege'' chapter, respectively.The included Rung has a striking resemblance to the [[Alpha Trion Protocols]]. While the set does not include the cloak Magnus sported in the second episode, the cloak from ''[[Studio Series]]'' ''Dark of the Moon'' [[Megatron (Movie)/toys#SS34|Megatron]] can be used as a decently accurate stand-in if one wishes.

:This set is a shared exclusive between online retailers and [[Walmart]] in Canada and the USA, and in Japan as a [[TakaraTomy]] Mall exclusive. The Japanese release is packaged in a standard windowed box. The set also found its way into numerous discount retailers, often at a steep deduction to its price tag.
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====''War for Cybertron: Kingdom''====
[[File:WFC-Kingdom Leader Ultra Magnus.jpg|upright=2.2|thumb|ER Prime forgot to bleach his colors before the photoshoot, so they had to get a new guy for the pictures.]]
*'''Ultra Magnus''' (Leader Class, February [[2021]])
**''Hasbro ID number'': '''WFC-K20'''
**''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''KD-11'''
**''TakaraTomy release date'': [[July 31]], 2021
**''Accessories'': "RT-15 Stethoscopic Detector," 2 missile launchers, 7 [[Magnus Armor]] pieces

:Part of the second wave of ''[[War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Kingdom]]'' Leader Class toys, Ultra Magnus is a retool of the above ''Siege'' toy, transforming from robot to car carrier truck. Like the ''Siege'' version, the figure is composed of the truck cab, which transforms into the inner robot, and the trailer, which transforms into the armor for the main robot. The wheels, Magnus Armor head, two chest pieces, shoulders, side car-carrier panels, and crotch, core-body chest, back, and rear-end have been changed to more closely resemble Ultra Magnus's original "Generation 1" cartoon appearance in both modes. As such, his cab and trailer are more separate, lengthening the truck mode. While this allows for his shoulders to not peg into the feet (meaning the shoulder pylons could be thicker and shorter, with 5 mm posts on top instead), the robot arms can be obviously seen. The cab retooling also limits the backward hip movement in his core-body and the waist in his main body (though the latter can be worked around with the back's sliding rail).

:The front end of Ultra Magnus's trailer also features small molded details shaped like the Autobot [[insignia]] to be placed to better replicate his [[Sunbow Productions|Sunbow]] model and his [[#Generation 1|original toy]], although there is no Autobot symbol present. Ultra Magnus has a similarly blank spot on his right shoulder for an Autobot sigil.

:His "RT-15 Stethoscopic Detector" remains the same, though his missile launchers are differently molded, and he lacks the leg-mounted "C-30 Magnetic Inducer Launchers". While the armor parts are still compatible with the original ''Siege'' inner robot, the front torso armor cannot clip into place due to the distance of both the tabs and holes.

:Much like most of the toyline, Ultra Magnus comes with one of four possible holographic [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]] cards for his wave, which reveals a [[Source:Golden Disk destinies|possible destiny]] of a key character.

:Hasbro stock photography (right) is mistransformed; the inner Magnus robot has the truck mode's front bumper left slid down and the torso slid forward, while the armored robot form has the waist plate left in the configuration used for his standard robot form. Both truck modes have the torso piece of the cab slid back instead of all the way forward. The CGI renders on the back of the box do not have these mistakes, though his armored robot chest is missing red.
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===''Legends''===
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[[File:Takaratomy-lg-14-ultra-magnus-and-alpha-trion.jpg|upright=2|thumb|Of course he comes with Alpha Trion! Why wouldn't he? Those two hang out all the time!]]
*'''Ultra Magnus''' ([[September 19]], [[2015]])
**''ID number:'' '''LG-14'''
**''Accessories:'' two guns, Alpha Trion figure

:''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' Ultra Magnus is a redeco of the [[#Combiner Wars|''Combiner Wars'' Leader Class Ultra Magnus]] toy. Compared to the Hasbro release, ''Legends'' Ultra Magnus features whiter plastic, and a deco closer to his original toy (including his rifles) and his appearances in [[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|IDW's ''More Than Meets The Eye'']] comics (down to the red thighs and unpainted eyes). The figure includes a small [[Alpha Trion (G1)#Legends|Alpha Trion]] figure, which is redecoed from Minimus Ambus. His profile names his buildable hammer the [[Magnus Hammer]].

:Unlike most ''Legends'' releases which feature Takara-original art, Ultra Magnus features the ''Combiner Wars'' toy's [[Marcelo Matere]]-drawn packaging art on his box, only recolored to match the toy's new paint job (and slightly modified to accomodate Trion's longer beard).

:Ultra Magnus also comes with [[Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 14|Bonus Edition Vol. 14]] of the [[Transformers Legends (comic)|''Legends'' manga]].
{{CWUltraMagnusMold}}
{{-}}

===''Q-Transformers''===
[[File:QTransformers UltraMagnus.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.66|A totally realism-minded superdeformed Ultra-Munchkin vehicle, just like all the others!]]
*'''Ultra Magnus''' ([[January 30]], [[2016]])
**''ID number:'' '''QTF-05'''

:''[[Q-Transformers]]'' Ultra Magnus is a retool of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Q-Transformers|QT-19 Convoy]] with a new head and arms/trailer, transforming from a [[super deformed]] car carrier with integrated trailer to a cute little robot. This toy was first available for sale at a special ''Q-Transformers'' event on [[January 16]]th, two weeks before it was released in stores.

:The original version of this mold was also used to make [[Nemesis Prime (G1)#Q-Transformers|Black Convoy]].
{{--}}

==Notes==
[[File:TrasformerSuperBuggy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|The child custody battle was a long and painful process.]]
*The ''Diaclone'' toy that would become Magnus—called "Powered Convoy"—came in a couple different varieties. Aside from the version that was eventually turned into "Movie Preview" Magnus, there was a "chrome" version that used a lighter gray outer plastic and chromed the central body/lower ramps of the trailer unit. This version was also available in a multi-pack with a red version of the toy that would become [[Mirage (G1)/toys#Toys|Mirage]], and the toy that would (20-ish years later) become [[Deep Cover#Toys|Deep Cover]].

*All versions of the ''Diaclone'' Powered Convoy toy came with a red "Powered Buggy" (パワードバギー) partner-robot that transformed from futuristic buggy (with a space for a Diaclone pilot) to robot and could also use the large rifle in either mode. Why this was excised from the ''Transformers'' incarnation is unknown. The Italian ''[[Trasformer]]'' line by [[GiG]], however, ''did'' release the vehicle as the "Super Buggy" on its own.

*White redecos of Optimus Prime toys that ''look'' like Ultra Magnus, but which surprisingly aren't, include ''[[Smallest Transforming Transformers]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#STTWhite|Convoy (White)]], ''[[Transformers Sports Label|Sport Label]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#marine|Convoy featuring Nike Free 7.0 Marine Version]], and ''[[Transformers Music Label|Music Label]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Music Label|Convoy —playing iPod speaker—]] (though it was actually made from the Ultra Magnus version of the mold), ''[[Bot Shots (toyline)|Bot Shots]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#BotShotPolarAssaultTeam|Polar Assault Team Optimus Prime]], ''[[Bot Shots (toyline)#TakaraTomy BeCool line|BeCool]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#GarbageTruck|Garbage Truck (Clean Optimus)]], ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP711|Convoy (7-Eleven ver.)]], and ''au x Transformers'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#InfobarANNIN|INFOBAR Optimus Prime (ANNIN)]] .
{{--}}

==References==
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==External links==
*[http://www.diaclone.net/orid/dia057/index.html Diaclone Powered Convoy at Diaclone.net (Japanese-language site)]

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Talk:Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys

2021-06-29T18:47:18Z

Bocalt: /* MP-2 release year */

==transforme jr==
Why does it say he was released In 85? If this is true, is this his first toy? And why does it look so accurate in vehicle mode to the final one?
==Unofficial Stuff==

Shall I assume that [http://www.FansProject.com Fans Project's] products are still a no-no?--[[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 12:14, 1 October 2009 (EDT)
:Yep, they have no place here.--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 12:16, 1 October 2009 (EDT)
Not even a mention in the trivia?--[[Special:Contributions/96.26.48.65|96.26.48.65]] 3:38, 1 March 2010
:No. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:40, 1 March 2010 (EST)

== Voice changer ==

Anyone got any info on the old UM voice changer? I remember seeing these things all over the place back in the eighties. [[Special:Contributions/199.90.28.195|199.90.28.195]] 09:12, 26 March 2010 (EDT)
: My info is "it looks like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pocketfulofplastic/3561204277/in/photostream/ " --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:18, 26 March 2010 (EDT)

== Who the fuck wrote this shit? ==

Seriously the unfunny captions under the images are completely lame. Also why not just call it recolor instead of redeco, redeco is only 1 letter shorter and it just looks retarded. [[Special:Contributions/72.209.44.189|72.209.44.189]] 07:21, 2 December 2011 (EST)
:Because a re''deco'' usually involves changing more than simply ''colors''; the ''deco'' changes, including differently-placed paint operations, and, in the case of G1 toys, different stickers. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 07:45, 2 December 2011 (EST)
:Redeco is also the term actually used by Hasbro and other toy companies. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 07:50, 2 December 2011 (EST)

== Commemorative Series ==

Writeup currently implies that the 2012 Asia reissue has long stacks (but then also claims the toy is mostly unchanged from the previous release).

I know the stock photos apparently showed long stacks (Jack is rather vague regarding his sources [http://tformers.com/article.php?sid=19045 here]), but
[http://www.ebay.it/itm/390775707290 this] looks to be the Asia version (no "Commemorative Series" label, "Ultra Magnus" is ™ instead of ®, the current status since ''Prime''), and he has short stacks. [http://vxt.ca/2013/01/05/transformers-reviews-commemorative-series-ultra-magnus-missile-modification-tutorial/ This] also confirms that the Asia version originally came with short stacks, and the long stacks seen in the photo are a custom job.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore|talk]]) 05:02, 11 October 2014 (EDT)

== Legends comic ==
So Takara Legends Ultra Magnus comes with a short (i.e. 2-page spread) comic. I don't read Japanese, so I don't really know what the best way to describe it is (or, more importantly, create a page for it); I'm linking it here to see if anyone else has any thoughts (sorry for the poor picture; I don't have access to a scanner right now): [http://i.imgur.com/83U190T.jpg] -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 13:37, 6 October 2015 (EDT)

:There's already a page for it: [[Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 14]]. --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 14:21, 6 October 2015 (EDT)

== Magnus Prime again ==

So [https://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/transformers-titans-return-product-reveals-news-updates-rumors-leaks-and-more--p1911385.php#p1911385 apparently] Magnus Prime was supposed to be Ginrai but had to be renamed for copyright/trademark reasons. Does that affect where we should put him? [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 05:00, 18 September 2017 (EDT)
:John Warden's comments in that interview make no sense. There's no acknowledgement that "Ginrai" is the name of the Titan Master, judging by [[Trypticon's Titan Master Crunch]]. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 05:10, 18 September 2017 (EDT)
::Presumably Magnus Prime was supposed to be like the Japanese headmasters and godmasters in that it's a transtector controlled by the titanmaster. The titanmaster is the human Ginrai but when he's joined with the transtector the whole thing is still called Ginrai. Either way, John Warden considers him to definitely not be Ultra Magnus but I don't know if that would just be considered authorial intent that has been overridden or not. [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 06:44, 18 September 2017 (EDT)
:::Does anyone else have an opinion on this? Would there be any objections if I moved Magnus Prime to Ginrai's page? [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 07:48, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
::::That would be rather bizarre considering that in the retail release, Ginrai is the Titan Master, which the wiki has already listed. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 08:50, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
:::::The original Ginrai and the Takara Legends Ginrai work the exact same way, are those bizarre? [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 10:14, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
:::::The published bio makes it clear it's Ultra Magnus, regardless of Warden's incoherent statements. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 09:37, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
::::::It very vaguely implies it could be Ultra Magnus, it could equally be Delta Magnus or someone else entirely. Warden's statements sound pretty coherent to me. [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 10:14, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
:::::::Why would it be some obscure character that Hasbro folk have likely never heard of and not the iconic character who has always been identified as "City Commander"? The only reason we're having this debate is because Warden opened his yap; we ignored them when they said AOE Slash was female and I don't see why we're not ignoring some guy who literally said "put him with Optimus Prime, or the Combiner Wars Optimus, like it’s in that zone, or the 2000's Armada". A random interview doesn't trump published material. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 10:59, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
I would advocate putting Magnus Prime on his own page. There's too much debate, contradiction, and ambiguity to definitively call him Ultra Magnus, Ginrai, or anything else. On his own page, there would be room to properly acknowledge the debate. Squeezed into Magnus or Ginrai's Toy sections, there would not. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 10:34, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
:Agreed. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 10:52, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
::Count me in favor of putting Magnus Prime on his page, for the reasons outlined above. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 11:28, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
:::I'm fine with this. [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 12:05, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
::::Seems to make the most sense. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 12:26, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
: Done. See [[Magnus Prime]]. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 10:34, 26 September 2017 (EDT)

== MP-2 release year ==

On the main MP page, the figure release date is 3-24-2005. However in this article, it says the original release year was 2004, but then in Australia in 2005. Something doesn't jibe here. Not sure where the 3-24 date comes from, but the booklet that came with the figure has copywrite 2005. Unless someone can prove otherwise, I'll list 3-24-2005 as the official release date of the figure and update the date and year pages. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] ([[User talk:MistaTee|talk]]) 21:59, 22 March 2021 (EDT)

== About the Spoiler Pack ==

"It is noteworthy that the black gradients are meant to represent his currently dying condition"
That is simply not true. This release is the normal japanese release which describes it as battle damage and wear.

The scheme actually references aspects of both Laser Ultra Magnus and Ultra Magnus Yokokuhen Version among others

Talk:Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys

2021-06-29T18:47:08Z

Bocalt: /* About the Spoiler Pack */ new section

==transforme jr==
Why does it say he was released In 85? If this is true, is this his first toy? And why does it look so accurate in vehicle mode to the final one?
==Unofficial Stuff==

Shall I assume that [http://www.FansProject.com Fans Project's] products are still a no-no?--[[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 12:14, 1 October 2009 (EDT)
:Yep, they have no place here.--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 12:16, 1 October 2009 (EDT)
Not even a mention in the trivia?--[[Special:Contributions/96.26.48.65|96.26.48.65]] 3:38, 1 March 2010
:No. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:40, 1 March 2010 (EST)

== Voice changer ==

Anyone got any info on the old UM voice changer? I remember seeing these things all over the place back in the eighties. [[Special:Contributions/199.90.28.195|199.90.28.195]] 09:12, 26 March 2010 (EDT)
: My info is "it looks like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pocketfulofplastic/3561204277/in/photostream/ " --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:18, 26 March 2010 (EDT)

== Who the fuck wrote this shit? ==

Seriously the unfunny captions under the images are completely lame. Also why not just call it recolor instead of redeco, redeco is only 1 letter shorter and it just looks retarded. [[Special:Contributions/72.209.44.189|72.209.44.189]] 07:21, 2 December 2011 (EST)
:Because a re''deco'' usually involves changing more than simply ''colors''; the ''deco'' changes, including differently-placed paint operations, and, in the case of G1 toys, different stickers. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 07:45, 2 December 2011 (EST)
:Redeco is also the term actually used by Hasbro and other toy companies. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 07:50, 2 December 2011 (EST)

== Commemorative Series ==

Writeup currently implies that the 2012 Asia reissue has long stacks (but then also claims the toy is mostly unchanged from the previous release).

I know the stock photos apparently showed long stacks (Jack is rather vague regarding his sources [http://tformers.com/article.php?sid=19045 here]), but
[http://www.ebay.it/itm/390775707290 this] looks to be the Asia version (no "Commemorative Series" label, "Ultra Magnus" is ™ instead of ®, the current status since ''Prime''), and he has short stacks. [http://vxt.ca/2013/01/05/transformers-reviews-commemorative-series-ultra-magnus-missile-modification-tutorial/ This] also confirms that the Asia version originally came with short stacks, and the long stacks seen in the photo are a custom job.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore|talk]]) 05:02, 11 October 2014 (EDT)

== Legends comic ==
So Takara Legends Ultra Magnus comes with a short (i.e. 2-page spread) comic. I don't read Japanese, so I don't really know what the best way to describe it is (or, more importantly, create a page for it); I'm linking it here to see if anyone else has any thoughts (sorry for the poor picture; I don't have access to a scanner right now): [http://i.imgur.com/83U190T.jpg] -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 13:37, 6 October 2015 (EDT)

:There's already a page for it: [[Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 14]]. --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 14:21, 6 October 2015 (EDT)

== Magnus Prime again ==

So [https://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/transformers-titans-return-product-reveals-news-updates-rumors-leaks-and-more--p1911385.php#p1911385 apparently] Magnus Prime was supposed to be Ginrai but had to be renamed for copyright/trademark reasons. Does that affect where we should put him? [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 05:00, 18 September 2017 (EDT)
:John Warden's comments in that interview make no sense. There's no acknowledgement that "Ginrai" is the name of the Titan Master, judging by [[Trypticon's Titan Master Crunch]]. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 05:10, 18 September 2017 (EDT)
::Presumably Magnus Prime was supposed to be like the Japanese headmasters and godmasters in that it's a transtector controlled by the titanmaster. The titanmaster is the human Ginrai but when he's joined with the transtector the whole thing is still called Ginrai. Either way, John Warden considers him to definitely not be Ultra Magnus but I don't know if that would just be considered authorial intent that has been overridden or not. [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 06:44, 18 September 2017 (EDT)
:::Does anyone else have an opinion on this? Would there be any objections if I moved Magnus Prime to Ginrai's page? [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 07:48, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
::::That would be rather bizarre considering that in the retail release, Ginrai is the Titan Master, which the wiki has already listed. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 08:50, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
:::::The original Ginrai and the Takara Legends Ginrai work the exact same way, are those bizarre? [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 10:14, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
:::::The published bio makes it clear it's Ultra Magnus, regardless of Warden's incoherent statements. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 09:37, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
::::::It very vaguely implies it could be Ultra Magnus, it could equally be Delta Magnus or someone else entirely. Warden's statements sound pretty coherent to me. [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 10:14, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
:::::::Why would it be some obscure character that Hasbro folk have likely never heard of and not the iconic character who has always been identified as "City Commander"? The only reason we're having this debate is because Warden opened his yap; we ignored them when they said AOE Slash was female and I don't see why we're not ignoring some guy who literally said "put him with Optimus Prime, or the Combiner Wars Optimus, like it’s in that zone, or the 2000's Armada". A random interview doesn't trump published material. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 10:59, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
I would advocate putting Magnus Prime on his own page. There's too much debate, contradiction, and ambiguity to definitively call him Ultra Magnus, Ginrai, or anything else. On his own page, there would be room to properly acknowledge the debate. Squeezed into Magnus or Ginrai's Toy sections, there would not. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 10:34, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
:Agreed. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 10:52, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
::Count me in favor of putting Magnus Prime on his page, for the reasons outlined above. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 11:28, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
:::I'm fine with this. [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 12:05, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
::::Seems to make the most sense. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 12:26, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
: Done. See [[Magnus Prime]]. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 10:34, 26 September 2017 (EDT)

== MP-2 release year ==

On the main MP page, the figure release date is 3-24-2005. However in this article, it says the original release year was 2004, but then in Australia in 2005. Something doesn't jibe here. Not sure where the 3-24 date comes from, but the booklet that came with the figure has copywrite 2005. Unless someone can prove otherwise, I'll list 3-24-2005 as the official release date of the figure and update the date and year pages. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] ([[User talk:MistaTee|talk]]) 21:59, 22 March 2021 (EDT)

About the Spoiler Pack

"It is noteworthy that the black gradients are meant to represent his currently dying condition"

That is simply not true. This release is the normal japanese release which describes it as battle damage and wear.

The scheme actually references aspects of both Laser Ultra Magnus and Ultra Magnus Yokokuhen Version among others

== About the Spoiler Pack ==

"It is noteworthy that the black gradients are meant to represent his currently dying condition"
That is simply not true. This release is the normal japanese release which describes it as battle damage and wear.

The scheme actually references aspects of both Laser Ultra Magnus and Ultra Magnus Yokokuhen Version among others

Talk:Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys

2021-06-29T18:46:21Z

Bocalt:

==transforme jr==
Why does it say he was released In 85? If this is true, is this his first toy? And why does it look so accurate in vehicle mode to the final one?
==Unofficial Stuff==

Shall I assume that [http://www.FansProject.com Fans Project's] products are still a no-no?--[[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 12:14, 1 October 2009 (EDT)
:Yep, they have no place here.--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 12:16, 1 October 2009 (EDT)
Not even a mention in the trivia?--[[Special:Contributions/96.26.48.65|96.26.48.65]] 3:38, 1 March 2010
:No. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:40, 1 March 2010 (EST)

== Voice changer ==

Anyone got any info on the old UM voice changer? I remember seeing these things all over the place back in the eighties. [[Special:Contributions/199.90.28.195|199.90.28.195]] 09:12, 26 March 2010 (EDT)
: My info is "it looks like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pocketfulofplastic/3561204277/in/photostream/ " --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:18, 26 March 2010 (EDT)

== Who the fuck wrote this shit? ==

Seriously the unfunny captions under the images are completely lame. Also why not just call it recolor instead of redeco, redeco is only 1 letter shorter and it just looks retarded. [[Special:Contributions/72.209.44.189|72.209.44.189]] 07:21, 2 December 2011 (EST)
:Because a re''deco'' usually involves changing more than simply ''colors''; the ''deco'' changes, including differently-placed paint operations, and, in the case of G1 toys, different stickers. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 07:45, 2 December 2011 (EST)
:Redeco is also the term actually used by Hasbro and other toy companies. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 07:50, 2 December 2011 (EST)

== Commemorative Series ==

Writeup currently implies that the 2012 Asia reissue has long stacks (but then also claims the toy is mostly unchanged from the previous release).

I know the stock photos apparently showed long stacks (Jack is rather vague regarding his sources [http://tformers.com/article.php?sid=19045 here]), but
[http://www.ebay.it/itm/390775707290 this] looks to be the Asia version (no "Commemorative Series" label, "Ultra Magnus" is ™ instead of ®, the current status since ''Prime''), and he has short stacks. [http://vxt.ca/2013/01/05/transformers-reviews-commemorative-series-ultra-magnus-missile-modification-tutorial/ This] also confirms that the Asia version originally came with short stacks, and the long stacks seen in the photo are a custom job.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore|talk]]) 05:02, 11 October 2014 (EDT)

== Legends comic ==
So Takara Legends Ultra Magnus comes with a short (i.e. 2-page spread) comic. I don't read Japanese, so I don't really know what the best way to describe it is (or, more importantly, create a page for it); I'm linking it here to see if anyone else has any thoughts (sorry for the poor picture; I don't have access to a scanner right now): [http://i.imgur.com/83U190T.jpg] -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 13:37, 6 October 2015 (EDT)

:There's already a page for it: [[Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 14]]. --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 14:21, 6 October 2015 (EDT)

== Magnus Prime again ==

So [https://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/transformers-titans-return-product-reveals-news-updates-rumors-leaks-and-more--p1911385.php#p1911385 apparently] Magnus Prime was supposed to be Ginrai but had to be renamed for copyright/trademark reasons. Does that affect where we should put him? [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 05:00, 18 September 2017 (EDT)
:John Warden's comments in that interview make no sense. There's no acknowledgement that "Ginrai" is the name of the Titan Master, judging by [[Trypticon's Titan Master Crunch]]. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 05:10, 18 September 2017 (EDT)
::Presumably Magnus Prime was supposed to be like the Japanese headmasters and godmasters in that it's a transtector controlled by the titanmaster. The titanmaster is the human Ginrai but when he's joined with the transtector the whole thing is still called Ginrai. Either way, John Warden considers him to definitely not be Ultra Magnus but I don't know if that would just be considered authorial intent that has been overridden or not. [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 06:44, 18 September 2017 (EDT)
:::Does anyone else have an opinion on this? Would there be any objections if I moved Magnus Prime to Ginrai's page? [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 07:48, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
::::That would be rather bizarre considering that in the retail release, Ginrai is the Titan Master, which the wiki has already listed. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 08:50, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
:::::The original Ginrai and the Takara Legends Ginrai work the exact same way, are those bizarre? [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 10:14, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
:::::The published bio makes it clear it's Ultra Magnus, regardless of Warden's incoherent statements. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 09:37, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
::::::It very vaguely implies it could be Ultra Magnus, it could equally be Delta Magnus or someone else entirely. Warden's statements sound pretty coherent to me. [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 10:14, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
:::::::Why would it be some obscure character that Hasbro folk have likely never heard of and not the iconic character who has always been identified as "City Commander"? The only reason we're having this debate is because Warden opened his yap; we ignored them when they said AOE Slash was female and I don't see why we're not ignoring some guy who literally said "put him with Optimus Prime, or the Combiner Wars Optimus, like it’s in that zone, or the 2000's Armada". A random interview doesn't trump published material. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 10:59, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
I would advocate putting Magnus Prime on his own page. There's too much debate, contradiction, and ambiguity to definitively call him Ultra Magnus, Ginrai, or anything else. On his own page, there would be room to properly acknowledge the debate. Squeezed into Magnus or Ginrai's Toy sections, there would not. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 10:34, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
:Agreed. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 10:52, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
::Count me in favor of putting Magnus Prime on his page, for the reasons outlined above. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 11:28, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
:::I'm fine with this. [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 12:05, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
::::Seems to make the most sense. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 12:26, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
: Done. See [[Magnus Prime]]. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 10:34, 26 September 2017 (EDT)

== MP-2 release year ==

On the main MP page, the figure release date is 3-24-2005. However in this article, it says the original release year was 2004, but then in Australia in 2005. Something doesn't jibe here. Not sure where the 3-24 date comes from, but the booklet that came with the figure has copywrite 2005. Unless someone can prove otherwise, I'll list 3-24-2005 as the official release date of the figure and update the date and year pages. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] ([[User talk:MistaTee|talk]]) 21:59, 22 March 2021 (EDT)

About the Spoiler Pack

"It is noteworthy that the black gradients are meant to represent his currently dying condition"

That is simply not true. This release is the normal japanese release which describes it as battle damage and wear.

The scheme actually references aspects of both Laser Ultra Magnus and Ultra Magnus Yokokuhen Version among others